March 15th, 2011
02:08 PM ET

China flexes its military muscles

Recently, China moved a 4,000-ton frigate, fully armed with air-defense missiles, to the Libyan coast.  This was the first time in history that a Chinese warship has been deployed in a mission as far away as the Mediterranean Sea, and perhaps the first time the Chinese have intervened in another country to launch a major humanitarian rescue mission.

By all accounts, it was an impressive effort. China successfully helped thousands of its citizens evacuate war-torn Libya.

Countries that see themselves as China's competitors were a little miffed.

India also had thousands of workers stranded in Libya, and the Indian government came under intense criticism for being unable to swoop in and rescue them as effectively as China did.

How did the Indian government respond to such criticism?

By tweeting.

Take a look at the Twitter feed of Indian Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao.

Scroll down a few pages and you'll see these tweets on March 1 and 2:

"We are not in competition with China here. We're focused on the task of bringing back our people safe and sound. Pl let's not devalue this."

"India has chartered ships and aircraft. Please believe me when I say this. I will not comment on the Chinese statistics..."

Sounds a bit defensive, no?

soundoff (107 Responses)
  1. arrogan

    If you Americans are not planning to invade the whole world, why would you worry about if your aircraft carrier could be hit by Chinese missile. Chinese just don't want to be bully ed. God doesn't set up US as the ruler of human kind. Hitler tried but failed.

    March 17, 2011 at 3:55 pm | Reply
  2. Globe2020

    For as long as you have money in your pockets to buy there is nothing to worry about once that stops that will be the time to smack in the head and it shouldn't take much to go down.

    March 17, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Reply
  3. Alton Bryson

    Grape Vine says Hillary Clinton has given China Eminent Domain as collateral for American debt.
    What is the Truth America?

    March 17, 2011 at 5:51 pm | Reply
    • FunnyMonkey

      @Alton Bryson
      "Hillary Clinton has given China Eminent Domain as collateral for American debt"

      Hilarious !

      There is one thing you don't understand. Debt only exist as long as Capitalism exist.

      Capitalism is older than democracy, and not necessarily needed.
      It was only needed as a mean to trade with dictators and fake-comunists (oligarchies)
      Now that it's becoming more obvious that money can be a plague
      (BP, Charlie Sheen, China, Mexican Druglords ... just 2 recent examples of money gone wrong)
      we might look forward toward something new

      So I wouldn't worry too much.
      If it's right for an evil king to kill the evil peasants to get their money
      Why should it be bad for good peasants (democracy) to get rid of the evil king ?
      There is no debt then, is there ?

      For over 10,000 years, mankind enslave each other and made the enslaved "debtors"
      What started with a guilliotine in France must eventually run its course to the end
      It doesn't have to be violent, but it needs to be done to the finish line eventually

      If anything, out of care for efficiency, because the medieval era proved
      that one lord accumulating all the wealth only slow down progress.
      And maybe out of a desire for survival because Tokyo showed us the times will get thought,
      thanks to our mistakes and the effect of extreme polution
      (basic heat transfer theory, climate change => more earthquakes)

      Anyhow, don't worry about any debt, or any false info from chinese sites

      March 17, 2011 at 6:19 pm | Reply
  4. FunnyMonkey

    Love the video !

    Dad ? Have you taken your pills ! You're halucinating again !
    Even if you're not my dad, no one is bullying China ... I think it's the other way arround.
    When I get my dad from the airport, I don't go in a tank...
    Not unless I want to take down the bad guys, like Gadafi.

    So, by standing there with a missile boat, with brand new missile that can destroy an aircraft carrier..
    I think China is bullying not just the usa, but everyone voting yes tonight, and everyone oposing Gadafi
    This includes
    -the African union (many of which are China's friend)
    -the arab league (some are China's friend)
    -probably Russia (also used to be a friend of china)

    No one is trying to set the US as a ruller, everything was discussed
    You know verry well what the problem is in China
    -abuse of human rights
    -occupation of foreign territories conquered by the Manchu dynasty (Tinet, Xinjiang)
    (those peoples deserve autonomy)

    Fortunately the CPP in't a dictatorship. At least the youngest members seems a bit more awake than my Dad here...
    So it can be verry flexible, it can adjust, it can respect chinese peoples
    It doesn't need to end up like in the video that guy posted
    It's your choice really

    I know you're a CPP member, so please report what I said to your superior.
    And make them watch that video a dozen times
    Because peoples both inside and inside China know what you did
    You need to pay reparation to the chinese peoples
    You have the money, we all know you do... spit it out !

    Sorry for that, didn't intended to sound nasty 9D
    It's just the way I talk when I see a rich CPP capitalist tiger bullying a poor chinese peasant
    Isn't that ironic ? CPP capitalist tiger ? Comunist Peoples Party Capitalist Tiger... ROFL


    I don't think it's about money, and I don't think we want China to go down
    On the contrary, we want them up on their feet, with flowers

    I think the future won't be the us alone, but each region standing on its feet.
    We'll need it for what's to come

    March 17, 2011 at 6:07 pm | Reply
    • Observer

      Yeah yeah see how many terrorist deperately want to target USA. I mean they love you like to whole world love you. Don't flatter yourself

      March 19, 2011 at 11:54 am | Reply
  5. Bill Wilson

    Would all you folks get a grip? China threatening us? How silly. China's economy is dependant on all their exports filling the shelves at Walmart. On the other hand, China could wreck our economy by dumping all their US treasuries at market price. We need each other right now for stability in hard times.

    China showing off? Sure...why not? We do it all the time. Destroy our carrier with a missile? Doubtful it would even reach the carrier in one piece. And if it did would be an instant declaration of war.

    March 17, 2011 at 9:48 pm | Reply
    • Not Logical

      Which leave us with a question.
      Why should China wanted to fire its DF-21 BAMMER [ US Military still have not got a solution to there Mach 10 missiles entering from the stratosphere ] at the USN Aircraft Carriers with no apparent reason?
      What about the supersonic Mach 3 Sunburn or HY93 which is employed in their ship?
      How is US going to response when you cannot even detected the Chinese 041 conventional submarines who can surfaced next to your fleet within striking distance.
      What is the US Spy vessel and plane doing next to China coast, thousand of miles away the USA? Going for holiday cruise. What if the China military will to do the same?
      Remember USA fired 3~4 cruise missiles at the Chinese Embassy in Budapest. If the situation is reverse, is USA going to declared WAR? It is fortunate, nothing happened after that, what if China is in the same rank as the North Korean. Is New York, Los Angeles going to be attacked by ICBM?
      What I am trying to says, Some of YOU AMERICAN are hypocrites and DOUBLE STANDARD.
      Converted Toyota Hilux are used commonly by Taliban, Somalian, to attack US and NATO military. Does that mean Japan is support these radical terrorist organisation?

      How about the Islamic FREE Ugyhur organisation based in the USA that are responsible for blowing up buses with innocent civilains, kids, babies and women all inside. They are your FREEDOM fighter today and your enemy tomorrow like Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Ahmad Chabalis [These are all CIA recruits previously]

      March 18, 2011 at 9:07 pm | Reply
  6. Not Logical

    China send a frigate plus a couple of IL76 to airlift and escort approx. 32,000 citizen out of Libya with the permission of the ruling Libyan Government and that constitutes a Military THREAT.

    Whereas USA and allies wanted to imposed a NO FLY ZONE in a foreign country that who regime opposed the USA is considered as what, HUMANITARIAN mission! One again, USA is not learning her lesson. She is once again poking her bloody nose into other people affair. You cannot even handle the turban cavemen fighting you in Afghanistan left alone those Apache destroyer AL QAEDA in their desert camels.
    Now you want to take on a modern adversary. With the price of crude oil reaching an all high, the next nation to watch out for is your former cold war opponent Russia.
    President Dmitry Medvedev said Friday MArch 18, 2011 that Russia will spend the equivalent of $700 billion by 2020 to modernize the military's aging arsenals.
    What is more, Gaddafi is send her army to crush the opportunistic AL QAEDA shite revolution [similar to the Iranian]. Look like USA is creating not one post Shah IRAN but many. Ha Ha
    You don't even know who is your real enemy. Most American is raise and live in a CULTURE OF IGNORANCE.

    Now I wonder what will happens when China send a fleet of warships including an AIRCRAFT CARRIER to a trouble region, USA who seems to forget she is a diminishing power with lots and lots of PUBLIC DEBTS will do what? Declared WAR!
    I can see many WARMONGERING AMERICANS here with low IQ. In time, you will realize that China is a FRIEND but that will mean you have to acknowledge an equally strong partner which to many American is humiliating. FUNNY isn't it?

    Read this excerpt to see how useless your so-called defensive weapons has become.
    PRC missile could render PAC-3s obsolete
    By J. Michael Cole Mar 18, 2011 Taipei Post
    A new longer-range ballistic missile allegedly deployed by China and the introduction of multiple warhead capabilities could render obsolete Taiwan’s most advanced missile interceptors, analysts said yesterday.
    Another, Rick Fisher, a senior fellow at the International Assessment and Strategy Center in Washington, said chances the DF-16 is the “real deal” were high, adding that the new system would likely incorporate advances in solid rocket fuel, guidance and warhead design. He admitted this was the first time he had seen references to the DF-16 designation.
    Alarmingly, the faster re-entry of a longer-range ballistic missile such as the DF-16 would greatly reduce the effectiveness of Taiwan’s PAC-3 missile interceptors that were acquired at great cost from the US and which are still in the process of being deployed.
    The longer the range of a ballistic missile, the higher it must climb to reach its target and the higher it climbs, the more time it takes for it to fall to the ground, giving gravity more time to accelerate the descent of the warhead at a rate of about 9.8m per second squared.
    “All the PAC-3s are not yet in the field, but when they are, they can potentially be defeated by the faster 1,000km DF-16,” Fisher said.

    March 18, 2011 at 8:42 pm | Reply
  7. steve o

    We have nothing to worry about as long as the ship was "Made in China"

    March 18, 2011 at 10:02 pm | Reply
    • Not Logical

      You certainly have nothing to worry about.
      That happens to be true in the cases of the Boeing or Airbus airliners flying all over the world today with many of its parts including the wings, tailerons and fuselages all MADE IN CHINA. Although I understand that is not what you intend to mean. Why line up to purchase one of these cheap and low quality Made in China toys called iPhone or iPad or for that matter any one of the notebook you are probably clicking on. China produced up to 95 percent of all the notebook in the world today. With 23 million factories and 90 percent of them private, what do you expects. 100 percent 100 percent low quality products. What if 000.1 percent of them can produces world class products that exceeds international standards.
      That is hard to accept, right. Chinese is only good for copy like your USA FATHER of US MANUFACTURER Samuel Slater in the 19th Century, a well known and very famous Industrial SPY and American idolized him.
      "Stupid is as stupid does", right!

      Subject like MILITARY can be controversial and if this is all about competition between USA and China, how about turning to eco projects like Green Energy?
      Some time ago, U.S. was complaining that China is not doing enough for renewable energy?

      China beats the US in wind energy

      By Sheila McNulty in Houston
      Published: January 25 2011 00:29 | Last updated: January 25 2011 01:17
      China has become the leader in wind energy capacity, seizing the lead from the US, where last year installations dropped to half of what they were in 2009.

      US installations totalled 5,115 megawatts of wind power in 2010, barely half of 2009’s record pace because of what the industry sees as the lack of predictable long-term federal policies on renewable energy grants.

      US wind capacity now stands at 40,180 megawatts, an increase in capacity of 15 per cent over the start of 2010, the American Wind Energy Association said on Monday. It said China now has 41,800 megawatts in operation, an increase of 62 per cent in capacity over a year ago.

      Towards the end of last year, wind installations came to a standstill as the industry waited for Congress to renew a provision enabling the industry to obtain a cash grant in lieu of an investment tax credit, which had been a key factor behind growth. The provision eventually passed in late December but only for one year, resulting in long-term uncertainty.

      “Our industry continues to ensure a boom-bust cycle because of the lack of long-term predictable federal policies,” said Denise Bode, chief executive of the American Wind Energy Association, the national trade association.

      Research by General Electric has shown that investments in the wind industry have risen and fallen along with the renewal and expiration of renewable energy incentives. The expiration of incentives in 2000, 2002 and 2004, for example, caused a 76-90 per cent drop in installed capacity in the US from the previous year.

      Complicating the efforts to maintain US growth in wind generation are low natural gas prices, which are leading power producers to favour that fossil fuel.

      ”Now that we’re competing with natural gas on cost, we need consistent federal policies to ensure we have a diverse portfolio of energy sources in this country, and don’t become over-reliant on one source or another,” Ms Bode said.

      The renewal of the tax credit at the end of last year means the industry entered 2011 with more than 5,600 megawatts of electric power under construction, encouraging a more robust growth rate for this year.

      March 18, 2011 at 11:46 pm | Reply
      • stonemason89

        And yet China is still #1 in greenhouse gas emissions.

        March 19, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
      • Not logical

        Mmm.. Congratulation to the US who at position 11 emitted 19.1 metric tons of CO2 per capita in 1997 now managed to reduce to 18.9 in 2007 which is far better than most camel riding countries e.g. Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain [55.4, 31.1, 30.2, 29.6 respectively] or the Dutch 32.5 tons, etc.

        But what give you American the right to criticize the other or more precisely the Chinese who at position 80 in 2007 is emitting only 4.9 tons or in other words, more harshly the right to FART 4X more daily than an average Chinese like what you are doing in here. The Arabs will probably blame it on their camels FART and what will the American blame it on, their minorities Red Indians smoking their peace pipes or the chillies branding Mexicans, etc..

        More course, China with a population of 1.3 billion people, 23 million factories presently the world No. 1 manufacturer will be No. 1 emitter. That is understandable. Just like her economy which is poised to overtake USA at No. 1 soon. Use some commonsense when replying.

        Here is another statistics, survey shows that there are more people with high IQ than the entire population of USA or do you prefer per capita this time.

        March 19, 2011 at 3:05 pm |
  8. Wayne

    As a citizen of the United States, I must say that I could care less about China sending a ship out there. People leaving these comments are getting so excited. China sent a ship to make sure that their citizens got out of Libya safely. Yes, it was an armed ship but, can you really blame them? When you go to help people get out of a dangerous situation, you take a weapon with you. China is a peaceful country, they don't go around and pick fights with people. If they wanted to attack someone they would. It was purely for the defense of their citizens that they brought a warship. China doesn't want war, all they are worried about right now is building their economy. I say more power to them. I can look around my room right now and see a dozen things that were made in China and they are of excellent quality and, I got them for a good price. I like having nice things. Leave China alone. I wish we could be as peaceful as China, maybe then our economy would be growing like theirs and we would have the peace everyone strives for. Going to war with everybody doesn't make peace, it just makes more war.

    March 19, 2011 at 4:03 am | Reply
  9. Human

    To live without fear (mentally) is real freedom and is called peace (it is difference with – fear and do it any way or take a risk because of achieving something or our choices..)

    To live in harmony is to respect others differences without war

    Every country has it's own backgrounds, lessons to learn China had suffered so much in the past it's people especially that is why they are communist but now they are getting better but still a lot of corruption however which country doesnot even we have* what doctors never tell you *etc.leave alone the greedy people in power. The important thing is to help each other without conflict or wars easy said than done I know as too many innocent people being killed counless figures recorded from history..

    March 20, 2011 at 6:50 pm | Reply
    • Valery Somiety

      The worlds getting to be a small place and every thing is become everyone’s business it past time due that the so called civilized countries start behaving as such. Time is short to avoid re conflict that can and will affect the whole of the world population. We have to realize these events are not without consequence, not games to be played.

      April 9, 2011 at 10:58 pm | Reply
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    Cuánto debate estúpido. Midiendo quien puede y quien no (o: quien la tiene más larga). Evidentemente, lo que está pasando en estos días va más allá de lo que la vulgar masa puede discernir. No vale la pena argumentar nada en medio de tanta ignorancia.

    March 25, 2011 at 10:05 pm | Reply
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