By Fareed Zakaria, CNN
Events in the Middle East and North Africa are of historic importance, but the even bigger, long-term story is the rise of China. What path will it choose at home and abroad in the years ahead?
For decades there has been debate at the highest levels of the Chinese government about how much to modernize politically to ensure growth and stave off revolution.
It’s notoriously difficult to analyze the inner workings off the Chinese Communist Party. But today it seems that the liberals are losing the debate. China seems to be turning inward - moving away from a strategy of increasing openness and connection to the West and toward one of greater self-reliance and tighter internal controls.
Just look at China’s response to the uprisings in the Middle East. The country’s leadership made no concessions or openings. Instead, it cracked down on any inkling of protest, banned sensitive Internet searches and clamped down on the media.
China not only banned the word “jasmine”, it banned jasmine flowers too out of fear of a “Jasmine Day” of protests. Rather than letting off popular steam through greater openness and freedom, China has come down on the side of increasing restrictions.
Politics
China’s inward turn is embodied in the rise of Bo Xilai, a potent new force in Chinese politics. Bo Xilai is the current head of the Chongqing Communist Party. He has been a very effective head of Chongqing - a city of 30 million people. His method of rule has been to pursue strong anti-corruption and accountability standards for government officials. He has also generated popular support by constantly talking about the virtues of Mao Zedong while complaining about how modern Chinese society has become too materialistic and permissive.
Bo is running the first individual political campaign we’ve seen in China. He is pushing for one of nine Politburo spots in a very public, unusual manner.
Bo’s success suggests that the forces that are in the ascendancy in China are those that say, “We need a period of consolidation and control - not more reform and openness.” These forces embrace a certain kind of social conservatism and a turning inwards.
Economy
Similar inward-looking tendencies exist on the economic side as well. Liberals who are in favor of more market reform are losing out to those who say, “We’ve had a lot of growth. We don’t need to follow the American model. Look at what happened to the West in the financial crisis. What we need is a distinctly Chinese way. We need to support our own companies.”
In fact, political restrictions and economic restrictions often work together. By making life difficult for external Internet search engines for political reasons, China is also empowering Chinese search engines like Baidu. Censorship has even led to a Chinese clone of Twitter, which faces content restrictions.
This is happening in industry after industry. China is now focusing more and more of its attention on developing and empowering local Chinese companies. General Electric CEO Jeff Immelt complained about this publicly. He said that it was becoming very difficult for multinational firms to do business in China because it was not clear that the Chinese government wanted any Western firms to succeed (of course, because of the scale of the Chinese market, Immelt had to retract what he said).
Foreign Policy
2010 was a very bad year for China’s foreign policy. China’s leaders seem to understand this. There was the tiff over the Senkaku Islands, which irked Japan; the assertion of sovereignty in the South China Seas annoyed a number of the neighboring countries; the People’s Liberation Army tested its stealth bomber during U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates’s visit to China, which raised American hackles.
China is trying to correct course now. You can see that in a number of statements that have been made recently by senior officials. Dai Bingguo, a senior foreign policy leader in China has clearly been given authority to reset the Communist Party line and to make clear that China does not seek confrontation with the United States.
On the other hand, Chinese leaders clearly are intrigued by the geopolitical opportunities that present themselves. They have an ongoing economic and political push in Africa where they have cultivated African countries as markets and as potential opportunities for investment. China’s President Hu Jintao hosted an Africa Summit at which almost every African head of state showed up, which was truly extraordinary.
Closer to home you see the Pakistanis asked the Chinese to take over operations of a port and to build a naval base at Gwadar. What’s interesting about that is the Pakistanis did it in a very brazen way, literally trying to play the Chinese off the Americans. But the Chinese did not reciprocate. They did not make any public statements.
If you look at China’s actions, however, and not their words, you see something else. China has a port in Pakistan, and is building ports in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. These ports secure China's energy supplies from the Straits of Hormuz through the Straits of Malacca up to China. It’s a hugely important route for them.
But at another level, the three main ports happen to encircle India. Given that China has had 16 border disputes over the last 30 or 40 years – and the only dispute that remains completely unresolved is the one with India – you can tell that China must be thinking about ways in which they can maintain some level of pressure in the Indo-Chinese relationship.
The way forward
Former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger just published a book On China. The central thesis of the book is that if you look structurally at a rising power of the magnitude of China and an established power of the magnitude of the United States - with the huge cultural differences and the huge differences in their perspectives on history - there is, at some level, an almost inevitable clash.
How can this be avoided? What is the strategy that both countries should follow so that you don’t end up with this historical drama replaying itself one more time?
The answer is you need a real strategic commitment from the elites of both countries to try to maintain a very strong relationship. Both sides must understand the stakes.
This would not be a relationship of allies. But both countries would understand that it would be bad for all if their relations went into a downward spiral. For this reason, elites on both sides must say, “We need to understand your world and you need to understand ours.”
I interviewed Henry Kissinger for GPS and he said he thinks that China's rise is the central challenge of American foreign policy. Kissinger also thinks that the Obama people are doing all right at it; Obama's people get the importance of the U.S.-China relationship, Kissinger said.
Indeed, U.S. foreign policy toward China since President Richard Nixon has been stunning for its continuity. American has maintained a basic strategy of trying to integrate China into the world. We’ve helped them get World Trade Organization membership. We have maintained the same red lines we’ve always maintained - no invasion of Taiwan. We’ve talked about human rights. U.S.presidents have met with the Dalai Lama.
Ever since Nixon and Kissinger set a template, America's policy toward China has remained the same because the stakes are so high.
The real question I have is: Is China going to be able to maintain consistency on its end? Or will it take an inward turn?
Given all the political forces in China – especially, the rise of a new generation of Chinese policy makers and the increasingly important role of the People’s Liberation Army – I wonder where China will be five or seven years from now. This is the big question of our time.
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Great piece Fareed! Now this was extremely informative and thought provoking. This high level of journlism is what we expect from a great mind like yours.
"Dai Bingguo, a senior foreign policy leader in China has clearly been given authority to reset the Communist Party line and to make clear that China does not seek confrontation with the United States."
Also known as stalling because they weren't ready yet.
Ready for what ? Unlike USA which has a habit of bombing other countries, China has no intention of starting a third World War. Is that you guys are good for nowadays... dropping bombs. Go and fix your economy and education.
This Chinese media agent just responded... so yes they are not ready yet. They wont try to muscle the US right now.
Tony – Get a clue
Yes, but Tony's mostly correct. The U.S. is dumping a tremendous amount of money into other countries and war efforts rather than addressing internal & infrastructure issues in their own country. China is spending virtually no money outside its own country.
Why the heck would they want to fight us? If things keep going this way...They are going to own us lock stock and key here in a few years. Imperialism is probably inevitable for this country but lets not pretend we can take on China either. China doesn't want to fight cause they understand it would destroy us both. They're economic warfare is far superior to their military force.
The clueless, telling others to "Get a clue". If it weren't so sad, it would be funny.
Okay, so China wants to have a war with the most powerful country in the world, who also happens to be China's biggest customer... That's really smart, isn't that?
Cuncur with the need for patience on that of the Chinese's part in flexing of military and economic prowless. Continue to absorb technology via open trade or as steadily aggravating and embarrassing to US through hacking and other quetionable but viable means. Time is on their side....
I think John Denver is not ready to die yet. That is why he is faking his death but he is around doing his typical and usual American BS.
Sure the Chinese are peaceful, just ask Tibet. The Chinese don't want WW3 they just want to rule the world.
As a young Chinese,I can't see why we want a war,or rule the world. This generation is more or less Americanized.We like the idea of liberty,the pursuit of happiness,etc.We know the political systems has its problem.We know and see things in China everyday.I really hate it when Americans see us as victims,if you know what I mean.I know some history about America and i like how it was founded.But China is not the bad guy wanting to rule others.Also,we all have our own interests,so we have conflicts. That's pretty simple,isn't it?
@Tonay L
I have read through most of the comments on this article. While I appreciate your love of your country I do not appreciate you making baseless comments about topics of which you have no knowledge. have you been to the US? I doubt it based on your postings here. Since you likely have no first-hand knowledge of what the US is like (just as I have no first-hand knowledge of what China is like) how about you don't make inflammatory remarks about the US? You would have much more impact by defending your culture without lashing out. If you knew what Americans were really like you would know that most would be perfectly content leaving China alone. Outside of the context of products made in China, I couldn't even tell you the last time your country even came up in a conversation. You also seem to be judging American opinion based upon posts here on CNN. Understand that there are plenty of "trolls" out there who merely want to get a reaction from people and who will say anything to get that reaction. You can't read CNN or Fox News and the comments and then say to yourself that you have an understanding of the American psyche.
I live in a relatively small town and teach at the same private high school that Ted Turner graduated from. We are a boarding school and in the past 2 years I have seen the arrival of many Chinese students (most from Beijing). I know that we are not the only school receiving such students. Can you explain to me why there seems to be this push by the Chinese government to have students educated in the US? Mine is a rhetorical question as I know the answer but I want your opinion on it. I will also add that when I ask these same students what their future plans are (post secondary) they say they love China but want to stay here.
Again, I appreciate your love and defense of your culture and country. Your inflammatory remarks do nothing to promote sympathy nor understanding. You have taken the time to learn English quite well; don't squander the opportunity to connect across cultures and educate.
Great response, Tony! Don't you guys are fed by us and then backbite us?
Tony-
are you insane or simply lying to yourself and to the whole world ?
No one speaks the truth when it comes to China-related issues
why don't you open your eyes and see what China is doing to its people, not to mention the constant threat to Taiwan.
I , as Taiwanese -American living in this country more than 30 years know too well the real face of China.
Unfortunately, most Chinese and some pro-China Taiwanese & the Westerners refuse to face the truth.
China is using it economic mights to silence its critics meanwhile building an excessive military power , ready and able to attach others when necessary.
China needs the US to buy their products to support them. ????That's one of the outdated cliche you hear all the time.
That was true from 2000-2010. As time goes, China needs the US less and less. Americans love Chinese goods, if they don't love the Chinese goods, why the **** do they keep buying them? China wants war with the US? no, the US wants war with china or wants people to think that China wants to go to war with them. China doesnt want a land full of fat citizens who are lazy. oh wat? chinese (or asians) have inferiority complex towards westerners and that's why they want facial surgeries? no you got that wrong CNN, they want to look like South Americans and definetely not white faces with freckles. Get a tan, Westerners. Peace from Taiwan.
To Amurcan,
Thanks for your well-balanced comments. FYI and this may shock many ignoramus on this board, is that I am not from China. I have been to US a number of times. ( I still cannot understand why the power outlets in US don't have a on/off switch.) So I could not answer the questions about Chinese government push to have their students educated in US. If I hazard a guess, I think like most international students who studied in USA, they are sent by their parents to study there. The Chinese whether they are from mainland or from the Chinese diaspora place a high value in education. At the tertiary education level, there is a perception that US universities are still the best if not the most prestigious. Many foreign students normally would prefer staying back a few years to work in US to gain work experience and if they have the entrepreneur spirit they may return home to start their own business.
It is difficult to gauge what Americans think about China or Chinese in general. Historically and especially in the 19th century, USA like most "Anglo" countries have a very Sinophobic view (Chinese Exclusion Act 1882, Anti-Chinese riots of 1885-86). The jailing and subsequent deportation of the famous rocket scientist Qian Xuesen in 1950s and the persecution of Dr Lee Wen Ho in 1999 still reinforced the perception of US's Sinophobia. However,what we are seeing today is a clash of cultures and race. As Chinese all over the world are becoming better educated and as more and more of them are educated in the West, the Chinese today are now more vocal in expressing their opinions especially regarding China and the Chinese people.
@Tony L.
Stop your non-sense.
Read this.
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2010-2011/reputation-rankings.html
Main land Chinese students may be good, study hard but the universities in China are no compared with the US universities. Got that.
Canadian-Chinese,
Why are you asking me to read this. I am aware of the so called ranking. Please read my last message. Did I say that Universities in China are so much better.
This piece can only be written by an Indian Muslim. China irked Japan over Senkaku! I guess the Jews irked the Nazis by their existence.
So, Mr. Bob – you are the living great great grandson of HITLER ??
This discussions of intellectual in nature not racial – hope you understand it.
No, Bob! This piece is written by an educated America with sensible and valid world views! He is trying to help steer his country out of murky waters.
No doubt the economic growth enables China to be self-assertive. It can now afford to shun off its nickname as "copy-cat" of the West and is strong enough to stand on its own and re-invent itself. In order to find its identity, it has to turn "inward", preaching Chinese values and sparking nationalism.
After years of deprivation people right now want to enjoy life and cultivate the image of success. Consumerism sees the biggest spending on foreign luxury goods and incremental widening of social gaps. But the new generation, growing up in relative prospertiy would see the urge of keeping up appearances differently. In this regard the country faces the dilemma. Either it adopts the liberal model of Taiwan totally or it sees a renaissance of Maosim, modified to adapt to the 21st century.
@fake name Bob Brush: first of all what has his religion got to do with the Japan comment? Secondly, please at least have the courage to use your real name dude !!
Bob has a point. The article is annoying like many others Zakaria peddles. Big on sensationalism, little on substance. Plus he is a fear mongerer. It is all the same: China – oh my God! Failing American education – oh my God! Zakaria has no clue what he is taking about.
@Pacific
Read the World history of inventions again, would you?.
Funny to know lots of people have been brainwashed by idoit western media, like CNN. Just go to school to learn history, you know nothing about China.
No doubt the Chinese history books are accurate and objective.
I hope you are being sarcastic when you say "China's history is objective and accurate." Emperor Qin Shi Huang of the Qin dynasty actually burned books to discourage free thinking and buried many scholars alive. There were a couple other emperors who did this as well. While China has a very rich and diverse culture with much to offer, claiming that their history is objective and accurate is like saying the British were merely spreading peace and joy throughout the world during their hegemony.
jswimmer785
if the history is not accurate and objective, how would you get to learn the book burning part of the history? isn't your comment self evident?
Thanks, Terence. Those stupid need to learn from us. Oh wait, our history is huge, can they learn? lolz
Brian Long, has China anything for the world to learn except COPY-Tech?
Brian Long-
please stop talking about your history..
Chinese are not sons of the dragon, they are more like the dinosaur, that is from the past.
Pretty much that is what China stands for.. If not because the Taiwanese invested billions of dollars in China manufacturing tons of stuffs , export to all over the world, you would be still living below poverty, or worse..
you are an idiot, thank god we stiill have this forum to let you express your unintelligible thoughts.
You can have a glance of China history in this video, China only attack when they out number their opponent 20-1, 10-1 China observe the situation, 5-1 China with draw the troops.
@Minh Nguyen,
Silly observation from you!
I think India is just jealous that China is rising so fast. China went from a broke and closed Communist system to a rich and dominant superpower in 50 years while India is still lagging far behind. Fareed, jealous much?
What a stupid comment. If that's the best you can do, please don't bother.
I agree with TSRVT. That kind of petty thinking fogs all communication, let alone complicated thinking on foreign affairs.
India is the proverbial thorn in China's side with regards to competing stakes in the global market. Highest bidder receives the best attention and shiny trinkets (technology, weapons systems, a voice in the UN, etc) that reflect modernization and clout.
What we see of what goes inside China is just 1%. The severe media scrutiny China imposes is no secret. Everybody knows about it. Why is this article being taken as entirely opposite of what it means. This article is meant to provide an insight on current econo-political scenario in China, based on whatever info one can gather about China. But since you have already started the discussion, I must tell you this. India faced 500 years of foreign incursion since 1957. These days were dark ages for India, which used to be a global super power. People used to dream about coming to India and trading there, as you Chinese people today dream about going to US or about having trade relationships with thie US. On the contrary, China was not forced into Dark ages by some foreign power ever. Whatever dark ages you had was your own fault. Its just been 60 years since we became independent, and its only and only our might that we are again in the queue to claim our place as worlds superpower that fast. No other country has mattle to do that. We are not jealous of China for its economic growth. We are at par with China's growth, not 'lagging far behind' (10% avg GDP growth since last decade). What bugs us is how China supports our idiot neighbors by supplying them arms and political back. Actually we should not, because we know whatever you supply them will turn out to be a dud anyways.
As a Indian, I can say that India has every right to envy from rising china and they both are neighbours geographically and a competitor in International market. By the way, Fardeen is a naturalised American. If you believe in Constitution of your own country(assuming you are US Citizen), then you must stop slapping your irrational logic.
Huan might have some things wrong.. Both were humiliated by western powers.. India had a single one which allowed for some standardization and investment like railways, education, judicial, and postal systems... china's by contrast was a free for all, and perhaps considered the more valuable hence why the foreign powers couldn't agree how to divvy it up, which may be even worse! Prior to that the prior trade with the west was larger with china, and perhaps the misnaming of the native americans as "indians" was because the initial explorers realized they weren't in china and thought maybe somewhere else, perhaps india. Regardless, a very slow and painful death occurred with the jewish and western-states sponsored opium trade despite chinese laws and mandates to stop it. Whenever it was enforced, the west waged war and china lost and had to open their country up even more to drugs. This is indeed a darkest of ages brought on by foreigners, the cancer of drug abuse rampant and enforced militarily by western states. India benefited greatly incidentally since it was cultivated there.
The article began with the question, "Will China stay on course"? And it ends with the statement " This is the big question of our time". I thought I was going to get an opinion instead all I got was a question.
I ask Fareed what will happen to the Chinese economy the day people in the US STOP buying stuff made in China...What will happen if people stop shopping @ these mega-stores where 90% of their inventory comes from china...What will happen to their economy if there were no demand for goods. What will happen to those millions of workers without jobs...Would china hit rock bottom...The truth is they need america...They need americans to keep buying all that stuff made in china so in a way, the USA made china the economic power that it is.
You probably should ask the same question to USA, what will it happen to US if US don't buy so much.
Most of the stuff sold in US have a US brand. For example, for a iPod, let's say $200 sold here. It is made in China, more specifically, Foxxcom in Shenzhen. How much money do they make by selling one iPod? $10 or $20, probably even less. The big share mostly likely is on the US side. So if US don't buy from China, a lot of US companies will bankrupt. It will be a loss-loss situation.
US need China as much as China need US.
So please, for some Americans, they always claim that Chinese people know nothing about the real world since they are so cut off. But the truth is they don' t know much at all.
Please don't be so arrogant. Just calm down and read more.
Herry Gissinger got it right. China-US relationship is the most important foreign relations in the 21st century. No matter what different opinions they had, have or will have, the inter-dependence of each other and the impact on the world is so big that those differences are secondary in strategic thinking. The good news is that Chinese people in general like Americans and American values. Unfortunately, the American public has quite a lot of resentment againt China for a number of misguided reasons: 1. Communist China (only half true). 2. some bad companies and bad people in China churned out bad products and exported to US (partly the fault of US middleman and the inaction of US government). 3. internal US problems (Quite some US politicians conveniently blame China for the internal economic structural problems on China).
Tibet is part of china no doubt about that. Be definition PROC was founded on the territories of the Qing dynasty. Mongolia should also have been part of China. Until China Empire falls, tibet is by definition part of China. Just like France once upon the time was part of The Roman Empire. If China did fall, which is very very unlikely ( perhaps it's more likely for mexico to invade the US than to see China actually disintegrates), The "chinese" would be(or should be) called Han ( which is the 90%of the "chinese" population).
I love how these patriotic Chinese use 300 year old maps to justify a BRUTAL, VIOLENT takeover of a remote, peaceful society that has lived apart from China for thousands of years, in spite of Qing's conquests. LOL by your same logic, Central Asia and most of Russia really belongs to Mongolia!
Luckily for the American, the Chinese at that time did not have their paper big enough to draw american continent, or could not go that far, otherwise, they will now fight uncle Sam to take back their Indian land! This is the same to Tibet, Mongolia,Vietnam of their independent history.
@Taiwanese,
Who said that? Look at the China history again carefully before you write.
Hi,
Perhaps the US could demonstrate their sincerity to world peace by returning the central territories back to the Native Americans, and return California to the mexicans which they unlawfully annexed in an illegal war in the name of "Freedom" and "Liberty". Its funny how we like to overlook our past misdeeds when criticising another people. And lets not even mention Iraq or Afghanistan or the Vietnam war or support for Nicaraguan drug lords or the promise of support for Hmong combatants in Laos but abandoning them out of convenience when the Laotion government started shooting them. Lets also not talk about the distribution of smallpox laden blankets to Native American villages. Afterall we are a very civilised people and theres no need to talk about past atrocities when all that matters NOW is China as a repressive police state that restricts human thought and sells poison laden goods to the world – WHILE exploiting their own people. haha. Oh and please lets free tibet along the way too. Long Live Tibet and the Dalai Lama! His democratic election and divine interference in the running of the State is a model that all should aspire to!
We live in a real screwed up world Gentlemen. Amen
It would also be unfair to argue this topic in English for the chinese people. Maybe you all could level the playing field by learning chinese given your superior intellect and unrivalled abilities?
That is a fake Taiwanese talking. Tibet don't belong to China. Taiwan dn't belong to China.
If you look at China history carefully, Taiwan and Tibet belong to China only at certain periods.
For example: Tibet only belongs to 1 or 2 Chinese dynasties. 2 if you consider the Yuen dynasty is Chinese.
It is very unfortunate that after the US raped Vietnam from the 50s to the 70s—murdering three million Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians—Vietnam has become crazy.
She is now like one of those wandering women on the streets, wearing torn clothes, with dirt all over her face and body, shouting obscenities to everyone who passes by, thinking that people are trying to steal the precious doll that she holds in her hands. Once in a while, she laughs at herself, but most of the time, her angry outbursts become disturbing to pedestrians.
She did the same thing to China in 1979, attacking China’s borders. Unfortunately, the passage of time was not therapeutic for her recovery.
Yesterday, the Philippines celebrated her 113th "Independence" Day, remembering the 1.6 million lives that were lost in the Philippine-American War. Filipinos fought boldly despite American attempts to extinguish their spirits through torture methods like water boarding and leprosariums.
President Aguinaldo, the hero of the Phil-Am War, didn’t want the Philippines to become America’s whore, but greedy politicians in the Philippine Congress today don’t care about that. They just want their own mansions like Manny Pacquiao—America’s pimp—ignoring the lives of millions. These congressmen are now like pirates of the South China Sea.
America has become numb to crime. Bombing countries like Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan has become unemotional. Hundreds of thousands of civilians in the Middle East are now dead. People in the Middle East have also become insane, and they are now destroying their own governments and strangulating their own selves, thanks to American social networks and media that propagate greedy American culture.
The UK’s Guardian wrote about “How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power.” Insanity runs in the family, and this disease is now spreading.
Insanity is now an epidemic, thanks to America.
One loves Lao tzu, Zhuang Tze, Confucius etc. for their beautiful mind but not the stupid, cruel, liar, arrogant, shallow one way material mind of the present commies leaders whom betrayed their ancestor with their collapsed ideology of communism (Thank Gorbachev for that!).
@GuanXi,
Stop your incorrect and stupid comment. would you?
you americans got big mouth can't you see your own problems in your country infact you are the terrorist yourself apart from from supporting them
the real issue is what the world is doing and what the muslims are doing for Palestinian issue do you or your media have any idea with what misery Palestinians are going thorough every single day
Whatever it it, China is still eat rice daily. But every now and then they might eat some western food for meal. If you force them to eat western food daily. I don't think so. However, they might make western food look like Chinese food for sure. If you know what I mean.
So silly...and you think you are funny or clever.
Well said !
agreed! western and other countries always look at China only through their distorted cylindrical lenses.
BLABLABLA!Don't you see China always tortures and kills his own people?Are you blind?They're anti-freedom &anti-univesal values,like a blackhole detroying the world!!!China is the new evil empire!
OK.Another American who THINKS he knows better.You may.You probably not.
The real question is what the hell have you been smoking?
Southern Chinese eat rice. China consumes more flours than all western worlds combined together.
@Godmade
Please travel China from North to South before you wrote such a silly comment.
The information presented in the article was appropriate and thought-provokng, but I would like to think that an article on a CNN site would be edited to remove typos, poor grammar and punctuation, and simple problems with sentence construction.
Up with which you will not put ?
Communist China is one country, which the world and India in especial cannot afford to ever trust, China has a double policy, while on one hand it talks nicely publicily, yet it acts in a very differnt manner, during the 1962 when it invaded India, it stiil controls vast terrority of India, now it claims the Indian state of Arunachel Pradesh as it's own state, what the United States should do is cut down economic ties with China, and increase economic ties with India.
Contrary to popular belief, India invaded China in 1962. Nehru's forward policy setup military post even BEYOND the agreed McMahon Line – which is far inside even the disputed border, and right into Chinese sovereign land. If China is to setup military posts all over Delhi do you think you guys would allow that? LOL.
China will ultimately implode and I will await that day with joy. US and India and Japan better get their acts together or it will face dire consequences in the future. India should be thoroughly worried as China aggressively asserts land ownership of Arunchal Pradesh which really belonged to Tibet. Now they are picking fights with everyone, Vietnam, Japan etc. You also have the water crisis looming in the near future as China is aggressively damming major river sources and diverting them to China. When that day comes, I will fight against Chinese interest for FREE.
John Lee, First of why the heck you guys have Christian sounding first names and pure Chinese last names Mike Wong, Amy Chang. Anyways China is an anti world power. Their rise is out of vengeance, Not good for the world.
How typical Indian. Steal China's land and say that it is China stealing your land.
How typical Chinese, steal Tibetan land and blame others. Tibetans have learnt never to trust Chinese. They will come with smiling faces and drive a knife in your back the first chance they get. Ask Nehru, the poor guy was busy singing praises of China "China India Bhai Bhai (brother, brother)" and then China attacked in 1962 and shocked the poor fellow so much, he was never again the same after that.
Tony L – you slinky stupid creeky eyed chinese thug.You are the ones who copy and steal everything from all over the world.Spineless creature state your real ching chong name
I think you are very typical person who presents chinese as a whole in china: MEAN, LIAR AND SPUPID through your comments. You need to see your self through a mirror and ask what or why you are trying to defense now?
Love you, Tony. Most Asian lands and sea belonged to us in the past. Now we just want to take them back, those stupids!
To Shubho
You are the one who is stupid and spineless. You are so ignorant that you know nothing about history.
Strongly agreed. India has always been taken China as the biggest opponent.What a insane country.
Obviously,there is no doubt that China has ALREADY taken India ahead
i think you should go to learn history, S guy . China never invaded India.
@Soph & Tony-L, All that is happening here is China bashing India and India bashing China....Lot of people want this to continue...the two countries should overcome the 1962 and help each other grow economically and stop spending huge amounts on militarization
I wonder why asian like dog-eat-dog, they never know the value of solidarity, what America need to do is just giving a clue, the rest killing & quarreling will be done by asian themselves, government to government, people to peopole, all levels, what a weakness!
I am Indian too. I think you are not aware of history. You are miss guided what current govt and media is propagating and you are caught in that propaganda. 1962 war was provoked by Indians and Chinese taught India a lesson to tell India what is their boundary. In the process, they encroached 12 km in to India and told this is your red line. They went back 24 km and said that is going to be their red line. Now the middle is still India can claim but with an assurance to China that India will not provoke from that line. Indian Govt licking the assss of US now misleading the country and trying to become part of US conspiracy in the region and now want to claim that 12 km belt.
So GLAD to have some one like you saying the truth not on one sided as many PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED and HENCE causing so much dishamoney in this World. The War Fever Countries love to stir up the world and see them fighting each other so that they can sell their weapons for big money since the economy is so bad right now ........AN EVIL WORLD
You clearly looks like one of those thousands employed by Chinese govt. to add comments. You have no idea about history just like current Chinese school text book have no mention of Tiananmen Square which occurred just 20years back.
Yeah...If you're Indian, I'm from Alpha Centauri. Your comments stinks as much as your Communist foreign policy. Having said India invaded your ching chong land, you'll say Dalai Lama is a thung. Your brains are eroded, as you are acting on a Control room order. Tell you what, try us next time and we'll get back everything(with compound interest)
This guy is 101% of chinese blood in his vein. Don't pretend to be an indian. If you go out of your country, China and ask if everyone likes chinese in China, the answer that you will get is NO.
More and more Indians learned and are learning their lesson from China. That's a good sign!
Varaha means pig. Chinese love pig.
Srujana means fool.
VARAHA get a better name.
A lot of countries have double policy's, so China having one is not really surprising.
As soon as the fresh water supply dwindles for a few years in Asia their population will take a big hit, Wonder what will happen then?
go hell u inbreed India Asan.
China is a great country!
China has too many problems going against them, first is the lack of freedom for their own people which will eventually cause a backlash and people fighting back for their freedom, it is a communist country, population is way too high which will cause sooo many problems in the future for them as oil because hard to find and becomes extremely expensive, food prices rising, as now the their population are having more meat in their diet, which they now have to try to maintain for more than a billion people, maintaining strong economy will be hard in the long run and if they think that US is going to pay their debt back to them, then they are truly dreaming, I believe that US knows eventually like the Soviets, China will fall because of these reasons and many more that I have not mentioned (too many), so they don't need to pay them back ever. This Chinese growth is not permanent, it is an illusion. I beleive the US is promoting the fear of China to distract what they are building themselves behind close doors and the future plans they have. Thats why the Chinese government does not want people to have internet freedom or to know what is really going on in the world because they know that their own people will rise up eventually and history shows that you can never oppress your own people for ever.
This is the best comment I've yet to read. The Chinese Government will fail, eventually. By undervaluing their currency, holding tight controls about where money flows (mainly, not allowing it to leave the country) and rigging the economy for blistering growth, China as done well. But it cannot be sustained- there's a painfully evident housing bubble occurring (which the government responds with massive affordable public housing expenditures), a bubble beginning to grow in the stock market. Legally, Chinese can only invest their money in domestic real estate, the Shanghai stock exchange, and savings banks (which with 5% inflation, the interest rate cannot keep pace).
The whole country is rigged, propped up by the government. Short term- it allows for the growth we've seen. Mid-to-long term, things implode. You can't heavily manipulate free markets forever- it backfires. Sustaining high growth just to create enough jobs to keep folks happy- once that slows, lines for soup kitchens form, and it's only a matter of time before there's blood in the streets. Fareed misses the point here, completely.
what is the freedom you have there in US? You think you can vote the one you want him to be your president, you can march on the streets asking for salary increasing, protecting gay marriage or agaist abortion... these are all what the authority plans for you. With these freedom, you won't see how the wall street steals away your money and put it into the pockets of these elites, you won't see your future president begging from these elites, promising them a bigger picture.
Your goverment can't pay back the Chinese, that's a shame on them, they lose their credibility in the game.
Agree! And our Chinese are superior. Just ignore those stupids, Zouqingliu
You mean great country with bad goverment?:)
profound ignorance of Chinese history is the US norm, start with changing this, the rest
will fall in place, no easy task with the conservative abortions aborting education in the US,
but the public in general wants to know, it will have its way in the long run
As an American, I agree that Americans know FAR too little about Chinese history, both ancient and recent. Western and Chinese civilization are very different, and learning to understand each other entails learning a new way of thinking as well as historical facts. As Kissinger argues, though, this must be two-way. Most Chinese I speak to are equally ignorant of American history, since their textbooks and educational materials are heavily biased (or often flat-out wrong).
Don't forget China is a communist country. Soon, those greedy corporations will realize that their investments are being confiscated and stolen. The world should see the dark side of communist Red China by now before it's too late.
like what you guys did to American Indians?
Sad what the US did to the American Indians, but no one alive was part of that. Kind of like a African American getting mad at a white American because one of their relatives was a slave to a person who looked similar in skin tone, or a Jew hating a German because one of their relatives didn't stop Hitler. Let it go already.
You forgot to mention that your sex organ has been hacked and your viginity stolen by the Chinese.
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Fareed Zakaria, another China fear monger and another mouthpiece for the Indian government.
How is building port become a "encirclement"? Those ports are control by the respective country, and are used only as transport for the energy supply. Should China be yield to India making threat to its energy security?? Its a laughable attempt to smear China Fareed. IF the situation is reversed, I am sure you will talk the other way.
There are a lot of slandering and smearing and under the table racism going-on against China and Chinese on CNN these days. If US really wants to improve the stability of the world, it needs to respect others. Criticizing China on human rights while killing hundred of cilivians (it seems average of 15 civilians die every day due to drone strike in Pakistan, 20 in Afganistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, and soon Syria) EVERY DAY.
Do innocent civilians outside America not have human rights? Killing innocent people is consider capital crime in United States itself. A school shooter killing dozen people is a "horrific massacre" and the perpetrator would be label a inexcusable mass murder. But when US military dropping bombs on wedding parties, markets, and targetted killing – its "regretable mistake" and no one go punished. There is no "right" in human rights if you are killing innocent people.
Johnny
You're a bit too paranoid! Fareed is making a fair comment and you just went of the edge as if you have a personality disorder. Not everybody has a problem with China, but it's comments like yours that don't help. You must be old school. I'll tell you what, though, dear friends of mine had property in China that was confiscated by the government in the revolution. The elderly people who managed to get out before it all turned to reeducation will tell a very different story to yours. So Johhny, maybe it's time you listened to somebody other than the ruminations of your own paranoid mind.
Fareed is making a fair comment ? Maybe in another universe. It is so biased that only Americans and Westeners with pea sized brain believe it. Maybe you.
It is time that western world and stratagic partners like Taiwan, India, Japan, Vietnam, Indonesia, south korea. Mongolia, Israel, kazakhistan, gulf countires like saudi arabia, south american countries like mexco and brazil, south Africa (if possible Russia) form a coalition of willing to fend off China by totally ignoring its existance. It means no trade and dealings at all and if neccessary just a low level diplomatic presance can bring so called communist chinese thugs to implode with in resonable time frame.
Mind you, People of china are our frinds but it is up to them to make a decision to get rid of their system that is not level playing field for rest of the world. International community is ready to help them if they seek one.
While rest of the world follows the norms of human rights, fair labour policy, democratic means of governance and reciprocal policies and procedures which does have value and cost for the society, china does just commerce with the above countires with out any of the above responsibilities and its associated cost for its society. This undue advantage has created a monster 2.5 trillion in its war chest.
If we don't address this issue now. Our future generation has to face the consequences. It is imperetive that we all accept the fact that coexistance is the way forward for our better future. But it is imperative that we address this imbalance when it can be and when it is not too late.
I am not proposing war but a non cooperation by the coalition of willing until china and its cronies like north korea, pakistan, iran etc are willing to follow through the norms of the international trend in terms of openness in its trade, financial structure, social structure, eco system and military capacity.
This means some of the coalition of willing have to change its system to be more open and accomodative with out giving up its culture, language and religion. They have to accept one another as equal and equal partner. It means raising a common platform that attack on one is attack on the coalition and have to be prepared for the eventuality. This means country like america have to give up its hagemonic position and behave like mentor or senior partner for the coalition.
If the world can put forward a front then with in a decade I am sure china will be forced to turn around by its people. This stratagy can be bit of pain and compromises in terms of economic development but it will prove to be more productive and less expensive in terms of humanity and economically in the long term ( I mean in 50 to 100 years time).
To Alamma, or is it Asingh, whatever that stuff you are smoking, I want some of that
alamma,
Seriously which planet are you on. Is China bombing Libya now ? Is China bombing Yemen now ? Is China in Iraq or in Afghanistan ? Which country uses the first nuke ? Which country uses the nastiest weapon like napalm or Daisy Cutter or biological weapons ?
Tony – Again, get a clue. I certainly don't blame you for your lack of education as you obviously don't live in the US. I don't know where you are from but I can comfortably say the US is protecting you as well.
To alamma:
your plan is not gonna work. see what these coutries in your "coalition" need? you ignore China, the world economy will die.
it's true that a long-term high development isn't reasonable, the Chinese goverment is realizing this. they are restructuring their economy mode now, but just see how feared these US and EU superior companies are? their hot money becomes a lost flying bee, their sedans are going to stock up...China goverment is smarter than you imagine. they know they have many problems, but they also know their priorities.
To Ric,
Ric, you are the ignorant one . My lack of education ... ha ha ha. I have an international passport. Do you ? BTW, we don't need US protection. The problem with US nowadays is whenever they try to "defend", they actually destroy from Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc etc. Non-American lives mean zilch to Americans. What can you expect from a country that massacred their own native population and put the remainder in reservation.
Tony L
You could be Johnny L's brother. Need I say more?
You are an a$$hole. Do I have to say more moron !!
Tony Tony Tony
Shame. You act like China is innocent of any wrong doing. We all know that is not true. I doubt there is any country that is completely innocent. Stop acting like a Diva.
China is no angel but China is no devil. The West especially the Anglos love to gang up on her. Don't preach to China and stay away from her backyard.
Tony L – "her backyard"??? That attitude is why China is so hated by other Asians. We are NOT your vassal!
Yes,China did do something bad and is doing something bad.But in your idea,how can it be "good" overnight? You can criticize her,as a Chinese I totally accept cause that's what we are doing here everyday.But what China really needs is not radical change. We can't afford that.We are changing partly thanks to you people.What I really want to say is that you can't view her as evil before,now and forever.And also,I don't think Americans in general know much about China. Welcome to China and meet people here.
Well done, you made a point which someone could not see. No countries are perfect, but some narrow-minded people donot see the truth or the propaganda....
China is living in a dream world if it thinks that it can use terrorist state pakistan to weaken india. Pakistan sucked 20 billion dollars from the USA and still kept osama in their military camp safe. Pakistan will again rob the chinese of billions of dollars and give them a big thumbs down. China has made enemies of every one including taiwan, tibet, all the spratly sea neighbours. Their only friends are north korea, pakistan , iran etc. - you can imagine what is china"s sick thinking- they gave the nuke bombs to pakistan, which will be used against india, usa, europe, israel by their talebanis. This is the china of the future. The world is in big trouble.Pakistan and china are brothers in arms in the nuclear terror links against the world.
My Indian friend Joe, firstly please use your real name in future. You people look too cheap when using English names. You cannot be Joe and be so anti-Pakistani and anti-Chinese at the same time. Having diffierent culture, language, way of living and everything you can think of Pakistan and China are literally brothers. India share everything with Pakistan but still makes Pakistani hate India.. there must be something about Indians that the whole world hates them. The West's call centres wont be there for ever to support your economy. You have no friends and a few terrrorists could not be stopped by a big only in size india, how can you stop Pakistan and China even individually. Be afraid, very afraid. And stop thinking you are good just because you can speak broken English.
Jonathan Brazee
would you express you conect means ,i want you teacht me enlish ,
thanks
The "John L", the democratic system (including human rights) is a national system of internal travel, laws or regulations, not the "world democracy." Is the French democratic system of democracy and freedom to the Congolese human rights established? The importance of democracy among people their own country's democratic fairness and human rights.
Both the coountry and it's people are hospitable to the rest of the world,China's rise is a great opportunity for others.The world is colorful because it is different!What will be, if every nation is like the US, bombing the world in the name of human rights and democracy. We should respect diversity and each country should be it's own.Never be doomed and stubborned to think and insist communism is bad, capitalism is good.Democracy is not the only solution for the world,and can never work out.I do not think Iraqis are jiving a better life now ,corruption is super natural in many so called democratic nations .Think it over when you blame of China
I prefer China to be the world`s greatest superpower......US is too weak and old now....Its over.....
The USA is the Ultimate Superpower, they have been endorsed by prophecy as champions of free agency and the free world all new or emerging Superpowers must either follow the mold or they will be removed by providence!!
Yeah, God bless USA, if he really exists.
You prefer an oppressive Communist country as the leading nation of the world?
Not too smart there are ya....
Look at hong kong, singapore, taiwan, s korea,,...they always had a dictator type of regime while they were transformed from developing to the today developed nation. The four tigers(above mentioned country) were ruled for 30-40 years by single party. They could develop in such a rapid way because of them. Its the different story over there. You shouldn`t be too arrogant that one rule which is suitable in one part of the world is favourable in the other part of world. Maybe later when the China becomes fully developed, then it can have multi party system. Actually i prefer more like a single party govenment who does the work rather than multi party system which is corrupt.
@San,
Be prepared to have Dim Sum 24/7. Can you handle it?
I'm curious as to how much experience the author really has, concerning China. The statement "We don’t need to follow the American model." is completely absurd, seeing as how China isn't (and has never) followed any "American model". Half of China's economic growth is based solely on the manipulation of the trade value of the Yuan. Take away that half, and you pretty much have below normal economic growth within China. -
"China's economic growth is based solely on the manipulation of the trade value of the Yuan. Take away that half, and you pretty much have below normal economic growth within China." Really ? Where are your facts. Your comments show your complete ignorance. GO back to your shell you are suffering from delusion and Sinophobia.
Tony, he doesn't need facts, and he doesn't feel making hollow statement is cheap. End of story.
I'm Chinese American, and went back to China to experience Life here, working in Beijing. I have to say, i hate China, and Tony, you're a fucking idiot. The country is a piece of shit, got it? Get that into your mind so this country can actually improve. Most people want to get the hell out of here, why don't you come here and talk to my Chinese friends, not sure if you're even from China, you sound like you're talking out of your ass.
So do us all Chinese and ABCS favor and tell the truth, the country and culture of China is a piece of shit.
@Chinese American
You call yourself "Chinese" American ? If you think China is so bad, why do you bother consider yourself "Chinese" American ? You are nothing but a rotten banana. You are a disgrace to all the Chinese in the world. Just because you were unsucessful while you were in China, don't blame others for your failure.
To Chinese American
You are already a naturalized US citizen and you can chose to live in US. If you hate China so much, why do you voluntarily move to Beijing? You can easily come Bach to the US if China annoys you so much. Therefore, what you said does not make any sense.
WOW – Chinese American post who hates China and it's culture – must have severe mental problems – or he's not Chinese!
To Chinese American,
If you are really Chinese, You are a bloody disgrace to all Chinese in the world. To insult China and the Chinese culture, you are the real traitor to your own kind. If you think you can do better for China, then why are you in USA. Young kid, you will change your perspective about China and Chinese culture when you are much older. I did.
i think the chinese polictment system actruly is , communist+empery =communistchina .
and the communistchian no equal china
hahaha
if somebady in china can canect me with qq 423572220
John L – Don't play that game. When speaking of human rights in China, the subject is of a direct effort on the part of the governing body of China to restrict the human rights of its own people. – Someone, taking it upon themselves to shoot another individual is obviously an act by that individual that strips another from his "human rights", but we are discussing an active government, doing it to the whole of a population. – Stop reading the idiotic Chinese response to the US human rights document on China... it will do nothing but fill your head with garbage.
China doesn't give a dam what you people write in your little articles, China is busy doing its own thing and has no time to play along some American playbook.
It's disgusting how reporters try to make a name for themselves by fear mongering.
China made it's money by selling things to dumb Americans and now its using that money to build a solid domestic market.
People earn more year on year and the young have a bright future to look forward to, that is more than can be said of most western countries.
You point to one example of a nostalgia for Mao's China, I can tell you after numerous visits that China has for all practical purposes moved on past yesterday's communism and Mao. Capitalism is thriving. Yes, some of the older generation and even some baby boomers yearn for an environmental landscape from the 1960s and 1970s. Unregulated capitalism has taken a toll on freshwater lakes, on the food supply and on air quality. This is one of the challenges that they have. Despite this, the reality is the average middle-aged Chinese citizen understands that the average person in China is much better off today than they were under Mao. They also realize that trend lines are going in the right direction. Having said that, China hosts a diverse set of opinions on what their future should look like. In the West, we often expect that other countries with very different cultures and histories will simply flock to our democratic principles and to Western ideals. I think this is where I have a problem with your premise that an inward-looking China is necessarily a bad thing. I would rather see a stable China – with a go-slow approach that attempts to take care of their population's interests, then a go-fast approach that will satisfy our notions at the cost of their stability. China has populations pressures and logistical supply chain issues relating to food, water, product transportation and a host of other factors that we don't have. Our highways were built in the 1950s. Their highways is a fast-paced work in-progress. Their solutions are not our solutions – they have linked all their major cities with high speed trains and are even creating a greater Asian high speed train system that stretches to India, to Myanmar and Thailand. Their soft-power focus on Asia and Africa can be juxtaposed with our efforts in those regions, or for that matter our raw military power approach in other regions.
An inward focus is critical for them. Consolidation has many meanings within China. Being introspective is not a bad thing – an increasingly topical question is how private businesses conduct themselves relative to the environment and to labor. These issues are becoming increasingly important. The question is no longer whether China can accommodate capitalism, it is that with this new capitalism what new laws need to govern businesses. Another focus is how land reform continues to evolve. Unlike the recent past, Chinese citizens, today, can now own land. Another issue is how does the judicial system reform itself to accommodate many of these changes and the challenges of a more open China.
China has many voices, some of them speaking from the past, some of them talking in the present tense and some looking forward. Rather than expect China to adopt Western solutions – expect to hear conflicting Chinese voices vying to be heard. In the end, China will determine its future. There may be a few wrong turns on the road – but it's a wrong turn of their choosing. Like India, China's history has been filled with foreign voices telling them what to do – today they control their future. Though some look back fondly to Mao time, China has moved well past that era.
I like your analysis.But what you fail to understand about China is that,a lot of people have tasted money,have seen the dividend of freedom(having their private business,houses or even land in recent times).There are 100s of millions of people in China yet to taste this good life and trust me on this,they all want a better life than their parents or even their neighbors.every person in China wants to get rich.And FAST!!
The dynamics of China are so complex that even the people running the government sometimes does not know what will happen at any given time.They wait it out sometimes.Inward movement in China will only create chaos and economic problems.At the moment, a lot of factories are moving out of china because of a simple reason,They cant predict their future because of government unfavorable policies(foreign investors and some Chinese owned private investments inclusive) and thousands of Chinese lose jobs everyday.
infrastructural development and construction projects are keeping people busy which constitutes about 40% of employment at the moment(directly or indirectly including real estate projects)even the so called CHEAP LABOUR are NOT SO CHEAP AGAIN,but how long will this last?maybe another 5-10yrs maximum.The problem in China is that it is simply " too big" not to have a major problem and this is the case.
There is NOTHING the government can do about it.Sometimes natural dynamics and economics must be allowed to take it course and this will also help with introducing a better way to manage and direct the whole system towards better life for all.
@Charles.. you make a couple of very good points. One point is that the provinces have much more autonomy than people think and that provincial government often conducts itself in ways that do not conform to Beijing's desires (something we can identify with in the US – the states may often be at odds with Washington DC's desires). This aspect does create both problems and opportunities. Second point you make is that a downturn whether its a global recession like 2008 (where half of Shenzhen factories were shuttered) or competition from other countries could have a serious effect how China evolves. We will see.
The USA is the Ultimate Superpower, they have been endorsed by prophecy as champions of free agency and the free world all new or emerging Superpowers must either follow the mold or they will be removed by providence!
..and Rhode Island will be the new world superpower...
Rhode Island ?
Regardless of China's decision or course they take, they will without doubt still be a superpower.
This is high quality informative Journalism.Brilliant minds like Fareed Zakaria , former CNN Christian Amanpour are few of the best in this business.They give us the news and information the way they are and give us enough reasons at the same time to believe in their stories.Brilliant!!
I totally agree that China is one country that is so unpredictable with making and changing their policies.
The authorities in China will make and enforce any policy to still be in control irrespective of what US and other countries think.They dont care as far as the CCP remains in control which is the ultimate goal.Just like many other governments in the world.
Keep power and control and maintain the central government expected GDP at all cost is the most important priority,then others are seconded.Its just that(china) 1.3billion people is not the same as (Singapore) 4mil people.Running china as a country is a GIGA-PROJECT.
But at the end,there is always a price to pay for taking and keeping power and money at all cost.The question is this: Will China be ready to pay this price?secondly,can they afford to pay the price when the time comes? time will tell and this is one part of the 21st century history that future generations will be amazed to read in the history books.
this article was, as another said, pure speculative crap. Perhaps a "Pseudo-cold war" what does that even mean? there's too much of a focus on fringe geopolitical theory. CNN does a great job of putting on a show that most folks take hook, line, and sinker- with a well educated, articulate and ostensibly knowledgeable Zakaria. He's far from an expert on China- he's just reading a teleprompter. I've had many a conversation with a relative of mine who's 25 year analyst of China and Asian economics and policy. He's very successful because he's been in the trenches over there since before the Berlin Wall fell. His story, which is a lot more bland that Zakaria's, doesn't make for a good story. That story- about a slowing of growth overtime, restive populations within China, and continued reforms within China- that's not CNN's style.
The concern of this age isn't the rise of individual nations. India, Brazil, and perhaps even Indonesia will be economic superpowers over the next 100 years. Economic strength will mean less and less each decade. The real power in this age will be the strength of international organizations and not individual nations. We "fear" the rise of China only if we think in old fashioned bilateral considerations. Those considerations are increasingly unimportant. Look to NATO, SCO, AU, EU, the UN, and others as the vehicles of foreign policy.
What a piece of speculative crap! "Will China take an inward turn?" "Will it maintain consistency?" "Will it have salad – or soup?" These are trying questions...
And questions they are! Articles that end with questions make no resolution and that, my friends, is poor journalism. Or propaganda. Make the choice!
Is journalism taking a downward spiral? Or is it so advanced we can't comprehend it? Stay tuned to this CNN channel!
HAHa, go and take some college writing classes first and then take a look again!! Although I agree that this is not traditional journalism, nevertheless Mr. Zakariah wrote some pretty decent thesis.
Would coming down on a side be poor journalism?
Take a chill spill. This is a topic for constructive discussion. Don't be so defensive. Everyone can learn something from everyone. US can learn from China and Vice versa. No system is perfect. Humility is best.
I love CNN
China is communist and plans to remain so. China wants to remain a superpower. China also has border disputes will all of its neighbors. This situation makes the possibility of an explosion not to a "if" but to a matter of "when".
Look at the way China uses the situation in North Korea to pressurize Japan and the US. China has also been actively erasing its ethnic peoples, coloring all yellow. The Arab spring will not be publicized in China so as to not give any wrong ideas of freedom to the chinese people.
The list is long and it is just a matter of time before the stitches begin to go.
China is only communist in name only. The divide between poor and rich is much higher than any western capitalist countries.
I think what you mean is that America has been consistently inconsistent. China follows the Confucian Doctrine of the Mean, so its actions are consistent with moving inward or outward as necessary to balance themselves.
On the other hand, America heralds itself as an angel that fights for freedom, but it has always been a hypocrite. In the late 19th century, the Philippine national hero, Jose Rizal, noticed this, and up to now, in the 21st century, America remains a hypocrite. After he was quarantined by US immigration, he wrote, "There is no real civil liberty (in America). In some states, the Negro cannot marry a white woman, nor a Negress a white man. Because of their hatred for the Chinese, other Asiatics, like the Japanese, being confused with them, are likewise disliked by the ignorant Americans...
"They placed us under quarantine, in spite of the clearance given by the American Consul, of not having had a single case of illness aboard, and of the telegram of the governor of Hong Kong declaring that port free from epidemic."
Then when he arrived in Europe, he was annoyed by an arrogant American traveler who was bullying Europeans near him. He wrote, "I was beginning to be annoyed by the fury of the traveler and I was going to join the conversation to tell him what I have seen and endured in America, in New York itself, how many troubles and what torture the customs in the United States made us suffer, the demands of drivers, barbers, etc., people who, as in many other places, lived on travelers...I was tempted to believe that my man’s verbosity, being a good Yankee, came from the steam of a boiler inside his body, and I even imagined seeing in him a robot created and hurled to the world by the Americans, a robot with a perfect engine inside to discredit Europe..."
Consequently, he concluded that Americans are selfish, hypocritical racists who always had hidden agendas despite their angelic rhetoric. As he cynically wrote, "America is the land par excellence of freedom but only for the whites.”
Just as whites Americans used African American musicians like Louis Armstrong to cool off the intense anti-American feelings around the world during the Cold War as a propaganda tool, CNN, Newsweek and other American media also uses minorities to advance corporate interests.
The Chinese however, recognize that it is not the whites who are the problem, but the greedy corporations. As Vladimir Lenin says:
"It is not the Jews who are the enemies of the working people. The enemies of the workers are the capitalists of all countries. Among the Jews there are working people, and they form the majority. They are our brothers, who, like us, are oppressed by capital; they are our comrades in the struggle for socialism. Among the Jews there are kulaks, exploiters and capitalists, just as there are among the Russians, and among people of all nations. The capitalists strive to sow and foment hatred between workers of different faiths, different nations and different races. Those who do not work are kept in power by the power and strength of capital. Rich Jews, like rich Russians, and the rich in all countries, are in alliance to oppress, crush, rob and disunite the workers.
"Shame on accursed tsarism which tortured and persecuted the Jews. Shame on those who foment hatred towards the Jews, who foment hatred towards other nations.
"Long live the fraternal trust and fighting alliance of the workers of all nations in the struggle to overthrow capital."
What is this furry and racism all about.I guess this was an article based on several important peoples opinions and ideology which includes Chinese and American statesmen based on their actions.Does this in a way have anything to do with racism in America during the "stone ages".
I guess we are talking about 21st century economics and policies here.By the way,Americans as people comprises more than 30% non-white migrants over the last 200yrs and some of these people are also Chinese and other people from Asian origin popularly called ABC in China.
Please try and separate NATIONALISM with economics and politics.I do not think in my opinion that Americans hate Chinese the way you are stating it at the moment.
Chinese people are indeed disliked by pretty much everyone in the United States. Most Americans are very hypocritical which they aren't even aware of the degree of it, majority of the people will not show it and talk behind their back only while only a small portion of the population will be frank about it. While this American character is not good at all when it comes to many cases, this particular discrimination is mostly due to the very different culture of Chinese people and their lack of manners. They simply don't fit in with this society aside to the fact that the sound of their language is very much disliked in the entire western world.
Eastern orientals are actually the ultimate racist. Not only they fail to respect the cultural differences of those who are non-Oriental, but the amount of ignorance towards learning the differences between cultures is staggering. All I can say is that they have been culturally conditioned to think in such a cultural superiority way that only includes the Oriental race, specifically the Han. Such a closed culture living in an open world, one bounds to destroy the other.
Quite the contrary. This is a thought-provoking and a good piece. I may disagree with some aspects dealing with a return to Maoism (that's not going to happen) but it was well done. Since it is a difficult topic with many possible outcomes – I never would expect Zakaria to be able to predict the future. We are at a juncture – and that is what Zakaria is pointing out. Since you tend to like answers I think you would be better to take the fact that we are approaching such a juncture as the take-away from this article.
Great, just what the world needs, more conservatives in power.
The world can only accept China as superpower if it behaves better than the US. After what they did to Tibet and how it bullies its neighbors from East to West to its neighbors to the South, how they treat their own people, it is only right to be worried about their growth. The more they have power, the more ot is going to get worst. They have to obey international law and they cannot site history for owning a territory. The Mongolians owned most of China at one point. Should the world work to return China back to the Mongolians?
I find it odd most "freedom loving" people here who preaches superiority of democracy is against China for asserting its own right. Isn't having your own voice, asserting your own right the very fundamental right of democracy?? As a nation, China exercise its own soverign right and see fit which ever way to govern itself. THAT, fundamentally is freedom itself, on the international stage. Freedom choose which political system and economic policy it wants to exercise. And yet most Anti-China sinophobes would play up the fear mongering of such action. If China can't exercise the rights govern itself, to assert itself and its rights, why even bother preaching democracy and freedom ? Isn't it just total hypocrisy??
How about ME telling YOU what to do and dictate terms on how you should live your life?? Is that really freedom??
If west wants to see a positive outcome for the future to come, the west needs to give China space. China need space to figure this out, and the best west can do is to give China some advice, but by no mean should it try to lecture and dictate to China.
You have a well deserved good point for questioning why those freedom loving people are against China for asserting its own right?
Here is the answer for you: Every reasonable thought has a logical system behind. In the mind of those freedom loving people, they love freedom as much as love their life. They have strong will to represent themselves rather than be forced represented by other people. Therefore, they will ask firstly, when you talk about China, are you talking about the Chinese people or Chinese government? They are not the same concepts obviously. Secondly, they will ask, when you talk about right, are you talking about Chinese people’s right or government’s right? In a country like China, medias (include internet) are highly censored and controlled by the government, average Chinese people have very limited knowledge about what are truly happening in the country and the world, the representation of the government to Chinese people is questionable. Without freedom of press, any freedom of Chinese people in China is questionable not to mention, freedom of speech are in fact very restricted and limited in China today. Besides, Chinese officials are not elected by Chinese people freely and lawfully in general. This leads to the question about the Chinese government’s right of representation and its legitimacy. It is this anti-Chinese people’s nature of Chinese government are challenged and rejected by any freedom loving people including majority of Chinese people because it is against their logical and their human nature. “China” is not equal to Chinese people in today’s China. So who is truly taking Chinese people’s right and freedom away today? Everyone will have a right answer for that.
China doesn't exercise anything, it's a small group of corrupted officials. I'm Chinese American and have lived here for over a year, fully integrated, to tell you the truth, the majority of Chinese would rather move to America, what does that tell you about the "type" of government the real millions of "CHINESE" people want?
You have twisted the concept of freedom, freedom is "people" choosing what to do, whereas you are indicating "the government." Why are you trying to defend China? Are you not using logic to simply see that China is wrong? Is it because you're Chinese? Any well educated person, who is successful can see the major problem with this country, just ask a local Chinese person and be done with your arguments. Don't be proud to be Chinese please, most of your brothers and sisters, would slit your throat if they could get a passport to America, does that make you proud to be Chinese? Really, please drop it and face reality if you really want to improve the country. And believe me, I DO want to see China improved.
Chinese American, you sound like a loser. Thanks for telling us you are a chi. But that does not make your argument more legitimate at all. Go clean your mouth before giving a meaningful statement!
We, the Western consumers, have created a monster. You reap what you sow.
It's so sad to read comments of Chinese people here, they're not Chinese intellectuals who have been living abroad and know reality. When they come here, they immediately see THIS as propaganda, that's what propaganda at home does with you. In the end it's about human psychology, the fact that only with democracy ENOUGH people can have their rights, and that this regime will only make the world an even worse place, in the first place for its own people, the Chinese. Poor people... The future will tell...
hey you should admit that china is a powerful country ,every Chinese who understand English read the comments will correct your words. Have you guys been to China. If not, please don't slander Chinese. Tibet and Taiwan are belongs to China. People in Tibet are willing to live under the peace sky of china. you know what Chinese people are not so aggressive as Westerners, so they suffered attacks from the so called strong countries. but now Chinese will not suffer it any more. All humans have the equal right of living on the earth-is it the slogan that you westerns shouting ???
Then open up Tibet to the world. Why prevent journalist from going there to do some reporting?
Wrong, Tibet and Taiwan share the common Chinese Culture...so is everywhere in the world that has oversea chinese. We can talk the same language and write the same words but do not want anything to do with Chinese Communist government that suppressing religious freedom. What you have just said is pure imperialistic and ignorant.
@Sage, what they DID in Tibet? Even worse is what they are DOING right now in Tibet, brainwashing Tibetan children, not allowing them to study their own language and culture, telling only good things about China and bad things about Tibetan cultures, and at home their parents need to fight all this. There are hundreds of other issues, it's just too sad to think of, at times. I'm fine with a Great Powerful China, but it can never be Great under a regime like this one, and the world should be very worried indeed. But while being worries, improve policy and interaction.
Have u conveniently forgotten what the US did to the American Indians for centuries? How would u like it if the American Indians decide to take their land back and leave USA?
How could you take back your land and then take it with you to Paris?!
This kind of anti-Chinese article and other attempts to derail China from becoming world no1 in economy , technology and military will not work. It is inevitable China will emerge as the leader in near future. The western world is declining. The west should sit up and pay attention and try to do something before it is too late.
Maybe, in the near furure, when the leaders and power shift, and world war three then break out.
China does not put its military bases all over South America and Canada, like the US does in asia around China's neighbors.
China does not perform pointless military exercises off the coast of Florida, like the US does on China's sea border
China does not constantly whine and blame the US for devaluing its debt (essentially stealing billions $ from china) and causing the 2008 global meltdown, like the US does regarding china's right to control it's own currency ratio. As if china's fixed currency caused the meltdown and not the american banks/mortgage backed securities, the excess, or the US policy failures.
Average Chinese person does not resent Americans and view them as guests, as oppose to average Americans who hate the Chinese for their success. Evidences? just look at the resentful and vile comments on CNN(a mainstream news site) for any article related to china, where people can post exactly how they feel hidden behind anonymity.
Average Chinese person does not resent American or any foreign made goods or products, there is no misguided notion of nationalistic protectionism like the US "buy american made only" idea.
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The above is how most educated Chinese feel in china, they do not understand why Americans are so aggressive and constantly trying to stir up trouble and provoke China, when all China wanted to do was to be left alone. I remember in a public area when the news showed American warships off the coast of China doing military exercises, many Chinese simply shook their head and sighed. They just dont understand why Americans would do such a thing, and asked how will America feel if china sent its navy off the florida / new york coast and started firing missiles for military exercise.
In summary, China just wants to be left alone and prefer to deal with conflicts in a respectful manner behind closed doors, the government is growing increasingly tired of America's constant and nonstop provocation, and its aggressive behavior with their politicians openly attacking and insulting china as a scapegoat to make up for their own incompetence in solving their own country's problems.
History has shown us that it is always the Western world who had designs on China. Perhaps they still think that Asians should be totally subservient to white men.
What you have written down is rational and well thought out. But do remember that here in United States, almost everyone that has internet connection can go to this site and post comments. However, the same could not be said about China because of internet censorship and not everybody knows how to read unadulterated article in English (for some reasons, the translated versions are almost always more biased), let alone posting a reply. Had it be the case that if more Chinese were to reply to this article, it will be not so civilized I am afraid. I know these things because I read mandarin and studied behaviors on chinese websites.
Well said indeed SB.
Good and balanced article by Fareed Zakaria.......we just hope that the leaders in China can managed the potential property bubble and also creating more job opportunites in the inner western regions so that social stability can be maintained in the immediate future. Likewise, we do not wish the US debt-default dilemma to be worsen by any internal rife between the Republicans and the Democrats.............as many countries including China will be aversely affected by the delay in payments.
@Cherri H this is exactly what I mean, you know so little, your arguments are totally out of order it's a shame, I wish the regime wouldn't do this to you. It's never your fault, you can't and won't know.
Seems that u still can't answer me on the American Indian thing. I am sure u know the proverb in Matt 7:5 – first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
So Cherri. Does that proverb apply to you, too? Looking at the many arguments like yours, there is a strategy to change the focus of discussion to what injustices the others have done to take the focus off the REAL discussion at hand. EVERY country has it's bad history. You cannot defend what was done to the Tibetans. Nice try, but no prize.
Cherri, this fake Rafael Federer guy is a clown, don't pay attention to people who choose to ignore their own past and current history of agression.
Yeah, Cherri knows too little, you know a lot, like "2%"? You're such a joke. I've never seen a person as cheeky as you.
@Wuxitom social stability is a joke my friend, used by regime to have excuses to the outside world for their torture of their own people, who often don't even realize it. Except the ones that are really tortured, mentally, physically, financially, go on and on
China also does not waste $700 million and 5 years to come up with a PLAN to build a 2 mile tunnel only to get cancelled before breaking ground. Instead they just build the bridge...the world's longest at 27 miles...in 4 years...not the plan..but the actual bridge completed.
Three Gorges Dam, nuff said.
Well said, Jay !!!
@Cherri H why do I need to answer on the American thing? I'm not American and yes I and my fellow countrymen and Europeans acknowledge many mistakes they have made and sometimes don't, but this has nothing to do with Tibet, has it? Typical Chinese way of discussing, because you know not even 1% of what is going on, maybe I know 2% only, which is already terrible. I have many Chinese friends who now kick themselves at knowing so little before, it will costs me hours and days to explain to you and teach you.
If you felt that you "only know 2%" about China, why don't you just shut up and start learning, instead of trying to "explain and teach" others? Such a joke.
Yeah, you are trying to teach or make friends why insulting people.
you guys were misled by the stupid western media, let me tell you the truth, china is the greatest country in the world and chinese people are the kindest people in the world. you have your lifestyle, we have our own lifestyle, there is no way to force others to accept your ideology!!!
Kindest people in the world? Haha, there's no such thing as kindest people in the world. Doesn't mean many people in China are not kind, but I can also confidently say many people in Europe are really kind. And the American continents. And Africa. And Oceania. Asia. What a nonsense argumentation.
I don't think Chinese are "kindest" either. This illustrates the weakness in journalism these days: jumping to conclusion too easy and too quickly. Same applies to many comments here.
I've been seeing a lot of your comments that way.
Chinese companies are good at copying ( often illegally) intellectual property developed in the West. There seems to be ethics vacuum in the society. Even medicines and baby formula products are made from sub-standard materials. I hope something or someone will reform the otherwise great ancient civilization.
You really think the West is any better. China have many problems but they don't go around bombing the 'brown' people unlike the Western powers.
No Tony, you don't have to, because there is too much that can be done at home, imprisoning and torturing those who have a different opinion.
The Western world dont' do that ? What do you think they are doing at Guantanamo Bay ? Giving the 'brown' people swimming lessons ? Try videotaping the police in some of the states in USA and see what happen to you. At least they do go around the world bombing the crap of other countries and say that they are the bastions of freedom, human rights and democracy.
Deflecting the question by asking another question.
The US has problems outside of the country sure. But China can't even fix their own country. As a citizen who needs to "CHOOSE" somewhere to live, that "DOES" make the west better. What's your definition of better? A corrupted government, a city filled with unhappy people and a country that doesn't bomb anyone? Enjoy. Once again, you need to go to a real university and get a modern person's education. If your degree is from China, trash it. Develop a logical, objective approach to the argument. One thing I can say, is Beijing is an extremely safe city like 100 times less dangerous than Los Angeles. That's objective. I'll tell you the truth, if you don't hate China, then you're not the right person to improve it.
To Chinese American,
The worst kind of 'banana' is one that runs off to America and then becomes the lackey for them. If you have your issues with the Chinese government, then why do you need to denigrate the Chinese culture. How are you going to 'improve' by running off to US and showing your hate ? Showing your hate of China and Chinese culture achieves nothing. Young man, you have a lot to learn.
Again, but not surprising, CNN is atacking China. Yes, as a big country, China has not following the US's way: bombing other small and poor country, robing their oil and resources.
Please read today's headline about China and Vietnam. And then go to Wikipedia to learn about the Spratly and Paracel Islands. Over China's 5000 years of history, they have a long history of picking on the little guys. They didn't get large by playing nice.
Or Chinese involvement in the war of 1950!
The East and The West will always differ in culture and practices........bread may be a staple meal to westerners but rice is the main staple diet of the East.........for the western countries where they are financially strong, practices of democracy can sustain....but in the eastern part of the globe, cries of democracy cannot hold much water........people in this area are more concerned about having their basic needs like good job, housing,etc...........in another five years perhaps, China will grow to another level where the average people`s life is changed for the better ! and the world will benefit with the rise of China too.........Social engineering and social stability is of utmost importance for a scoiety`s progress.........is not a boo...boo......
There are many indications that standards in China will rather falter than improve, because of the disrespect of authorities, the simply that excludes human's weaknesses in power, gap between rich and poor, environmental issues, the hundreds of protests on a daily basis in China by the poor who are treated like animals, sometimes tortured and even killed. But the basic thing is the economy, it's not being spread among a decent majority which should be done now because the world will get much more ugly in a few decades. Without enough criticism allowed from inside a society can simply not improve enough, that's why many people around the world are scared of this regime that gets more powerful, in this fragile world. Only Chinese intellectuals understand this, but they are silenced, tortured and often in jail or house arrest.
Good notes there Rafael. What the Chinese could not accept is the fact that the world is not fair. There is a different price to pay to be a superpower when half of the world's resources is irreversibly consumed and while everywhere in the world stressing environmental conservation, China is declaring full fledged expansion.
just imagine, what will US and the western countries do without China's fantastic economic growth these years?
@wayne what's that for an argument? Any criticism always needs to lead to this? This article never stated that Westerners don't acknowledge some positives in China's growth, did it? There are many negatives to it as well, but since you're afraid of a mix of positives and negatives, it can better be left out.
China should take the inward path, be a self-centered country and take what they believe is theirs to claim.
WHY?
So that India, Tibet, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam and the Philippines can legally ask the United Nation Security Council to put an end to Chinas Tyranny. Then Death to Communistchina will follow. I just hate China for their Foreign Policies and Border tyranny.
Fate!
Tibet and Taiwan are not independent countries. Taiwan is a fake independent country because it relies on USA's protection.
Read more history, you will hate more on how the West has done to other countries.
"Taiwan" isn't a country, but the Republic of China, the legal name for Taiwan and some smaller islands, is a country. After overthrowing the Manchu in 1911, the Republic was established in 1912. The ROC was a key ally during World War II and a founding member of the United Nations. It was granted a "permanent" seat on the Security Council. Today, the founding member is unrepresented in the United Nations. As much as the PRC likes to side step the issue, they can't claim something that was never their.
so simple and so naive
This is the most ridiculous words I've read in days, you know nothing about history and China.
Stupid! Those countries belong to us!
totally agree!!!!
Form history, it is the West including America that is aggressive on other countries. Most Americans do not understand much about the Chinese. Why atomic bomb was never used against Nazi Germany but decisively used on Japan? It is because Japan is an Asian country and not a western country. It is OK to destroy an Asian country but not a Western country. If US elites have this idea, then future conflict between China and USA is inevitable. It is USA that creates the potentials for future conflict. USA is only working for its own interest. Did USA pay up the UN subscription so far? If yes, why did USA delay payment to UN?
All those do not understand history, please do not think that Tibet is another country. From ancient history, Tibet was part of China. Tibet has never been an independent country. If not, can we also see that Alaska is an independent country? How serious here in CNN to try distort the historical facts? One great example is the Chinese invaded India in 1962. Are those people believe this is true reading the right history book? The fact is that the Indian invaded China in 1962 thus lead to war.
Wrong! A-Bombs were used in Japan because the Westerners could never understand why their enemy would sacrifice their life instead of surrendering. Imperial Japanese forces were brainwashed to believe that American would take their mother and sister to be brutalized and then shot their family to death. American was then led to believe that the invasion of the Japanese island would cost 100,000 – 150,000 lives and probably killing a lot more Japanese that were forced to die for their country.
That is what state sponsored propaganda and education do to you...mass conscription
@gsn
see that's your westerner's thinking. How do you define "brainwashing"? how can you be so sure that your view is not distorted and not influenced by your propaganda media like CNN? at least Japanese soliders how what they live for, that's their own choice. stop preaching your western ideology man. this world is born with plenty of conflicts and misunderstanding which can never be harmonized.
Zakaria was born in Mumbai (then Bombay), Maharashtra, India, to a Konkani Muslim mostly secular family.
This tells you why his article in CNN is written in this way. We need to question what India will benefit from a conflict between China and USA. He should not have such biased and dangerous view and get it publish in CNN. If those USA elites are daft and believe what this CNN's Indian says, sooner or later there will be conflict between China and USA. Surely, India will be on USA side. Some Indians have forgotten their colonial master was a British white man.
If the rising power is India instead of China, what do you think USA, CNN (using Indian) and India will say?
Again, a baseless accusation. Fareed Zakariah is a proponent of a strong US diplomatic influence that sees what good can US brings to the world. Read his articles from time to time and find out about this, especially those in Newsweek international. Opps, you cant even if you try since your media is severely censored.
it makes me chuckle every time i see fareed talking about china. he seems to be taking the role of resident china expert at cnn.
bo xilai is a good guy. during my childhood, i lived in a chinese coastal city named dalian while bo was the mayor there. he totally reinvented dalian and transformed it from a small harbor town into one of the best and most beautiful cities in china (definitely the most livable, in my opinion). anyway, just keep in mind that what's sacred or important to you is not necessarily scared or important to others. to chinese people, political freedom still comes after survival, good education, stable jobs, buying condos and cars in cash, buying louis vuittons, and saving money for kid's education on their list of important things in life.
and @Benji, you must be kidding me. ethnic minority groups are treated more than fairly in china. by being someone from a minority group, you automatically get bonus points on your college entrance exams. the smaller your ethnic group is, the more points you get, and han chinese get none. do you know how competitive these exams are in a nation of 1.3 billion people? unlike han chinese, ethic minorities are also allowed to have more than one child. the one-policy doesn't apply to them. how often do you see the 1.2 billion han chinese complaining? minorities get better welfare, if they want to live in a tent or be nomads and don't want to go to school that's fine too, while han chinese are on their own. and i've only named a few out of many perks for minorities. those chinese who have a han parent and a minority parent can choose if they want to register as a han or a minority for their identification card (which everybody has one in china), they almost always choose to register themselves as minority, so they can get all the perks and don't have to work as hard. if you are thinking about tibetans or people in xinjiang, i can tell you no, people don't get persecuted because you are minority, you are persecuted because you want to overthrow the government.
Riiighhttt, when I was in China I was shocked at the treatment by the Chinese people (who were extremely very friendly to me) of ethnic Mongols.
Coco
While you speak well of ethnic tolerance. Some how that seems trite when you see all the Catholics that have been rounded up and taken away in China. And please spare me the typical argument that the western countries or the US have done terrible things. At least there is religious freedom.
Those SOB supporting dictatorship of CCP learned and used English to angainst freedom world.
So English is the language of freedom? You're such a lovely SB.
Freedom ? For the Americans they are now enjoying the freedom to have full body scans at the airports and full body pat downs. They are also free to enjoy up to 15 years prison sentence for video taping the police. And in case you feel like protesting, you are also free to get your face bloodied by the police. In Washington the police slammed a wheelchair bound man face first onto the concrete. This is in the land of the brave and the free.
Well Tony, at least in the US they can challenge the police, take them to court and have the police prosecuted. Can you say the same?
Yes, take the police to court.. if you are still alive. And if you are still alive, it is most likely they will be acquitted unless you can videotaped the incident. But if you videotaped them, then in at least 12 states of US, you are committing a felony which can land you in prison for 15 years.
China is indeed a power to reckon with, the US needs to understand and accept its rising position in the comity of nations.
I am a Chinese citizen, and my English is not good, but I have to say is China's news website I've never seen this kind of news, discussion of news of other countries.
China existed for 5000 years, and will exist for another 5000 year, like it or not. China is emerging as a strong nation, irrespective of who lead the country, and is going to be hard to destroy/invade for the next decades. Wise people will try to cope with that, while stupid losers will try to reverse the wheel of history, and will be crashed by it eventually.
Deal with this fact.
A voice of reason. Bravo!
First of all I like to say, I find it odd most "freedom loving" people here who preaches superiority of democracy is against China for asserting its own right. Isn't having your own voice, asserting your own right the very fundamental right of democracy?? As a nation, China exercise its own soverign right and see fit which ever way to govern itself. THAT, fundamentally is freedom itself, on the international stage. Freedom choose which political system and economic policy it wants to exercise. And yet most Anti-China sinophobes would play up the fear mongering of such action. If China can't exercise the rights govern itself, to assert itself and its rights, why even bother preaching democracy and freedom ? Isn't it just total hypocrisy??
How about ME telling YOU what to do and dictate terms on how you should live your life?? Is that really freedom??
If west wants to see a positive outcome for the future to come, the west needs to give China space. China need space to figure this out, and the best west can do is to give China some advice, but by no mean should it try to lecture and dictate to China.
While Mr. Zakaria wonders what next(by the Chinese), I can say this.
The Chinese communist party controls China and will continue to control China as long
as it is able. Their legacy will be a mixture of ancient Chinese wisdom and Mao's visions
for a stronger China. The future of China is pretty much set in motion. Endless consumption
and modernization to become prosperous and strong. The Chinese all know that money is
power. Maybe we all know it. They will not stop until they are second to no one.
Unfortunately, they are blinded by their own pride and hunger. There will be more struggles
within as the people and the CCP clash. CCP(Chinese Communist Party) members control with
wealth and political positions. The majority(close to 90%) of the population are still below the
poverty line and this is the major stumbling block. There will be a revolution of major scale in
China as it tries to balance itself. I see this coming within the next decade.
Whatever some chinese/pakistani friends think of china as being a great country etc- let us ask the chinese , how many people in china know what is going on in the world beyond their borders. They are so cut off from the reality of the world, that they think that just because they have some bread and butter they are okay- they do not know that life is more than that. where are the open discussions, debates and cultural intermingling with their peers overseas. They are living in a Jail, and feel nice about it. Only about 10 million party workers live comfortably, and they are so corrupted that india is a paradise compared to china. The chinese kill their own dissidents without a decent hearing. They have more poverty than even india and pakistan. The chinese cannot breathe freely, they cannot fight for their rights. Their land is taken away, and no one knows what to do about it. A chinese worker sold his kidney for an ipad/iphone. And that is just a tip of the ice-berg. They have been fighting with all their neighbours like japan, philippines, vietnam etc. They cannot even tolerate spiritual leaders like the dalai lama. One day soon the usa, japan, india will combine together and stop doing business with the chinese. this will cause millions of factories to close down there, and millions will be unemployed in china, then they will know what is human rights and democracy.
you guys were misled by the stupid western media, let me tell you the truth, china is the greatest country in the world and chinese people are the kindest people in the world. you have your lifestyle, we have our own lifestyle, there is no way to force others to accept your ideology!!!
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Great and good are these two kind words to praise by outsiders or the world, not to determine their own, not to determine their own good or great. If greatness is determined by their own, then this world is not what is not great. Indeed, there is talk behind the tribe behind the tribal way of life, civilized society civilized way of life, the difference between heaven and earth do. But the people behind the tribal way of life longing for a civilized society (for example, democracy, freedom, human rights, fair, reasonable, etc.)
Behind the ruler of the tribe and its group must feel like the emperor-style way of life better than the civilized way of life on the 8 times. Significance of the existence of a country should be to make both the country's human ninety-eight percent of the national population of people with good and comfortable way of life, rather than to a small minority of rulers and their way of life members of the Group 8 times of others. People need to be civilized way of life, do not believe every Chinese people to ask?
This article is a true piece of shxt, the author didn't know China at all.
And I suppose you do? You are a joke.
Only less than 1% of the chinese population has the big picture of China. So, Premier Terence, tell us more about China from your bird eye view!!
This article is a true piece of shxt, the author didn't know China at all.
GOD BLESSES AMERICA IF ONLY SHE STOPS BOMBING OTHERS AS HER ONLY RESOLUTION TO HELP OTHERS !! NATO AND UN ARE INHUMANITY ACT RIGHT NOW
Let's not forget that the PEOPLE of countries like Libya, and others wanted the help from NATO or US or someone to help them fight the ruling government. In many interviews throughout the region, citizens of uprising countries were wondering why no one was stepping in to help when their people were being butchered by their own government. While it's true that many people in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq want the UN and US and NATO to go home, there are others who welcome someone to help their cause. Again, it's not so simple, Not so black and white. Who wouldn't like to stop spending billions of dollars on a bottomless pit overseas and spend it at home instead. If it were that simple, it would have been done long ago.
The difference between India and China is China has a culture than can grow into a world power while India's is still somewhere between the Stone and Medieval Ages. The problem with China is of course its government but they will eventually bring it down themselves and China will become a strong country (or world power), but no superpower. Too many people for that.
True. China could be a collective superpower...just not the per-capita superpower.
The rise of China is inevitable within this generation. The only way you can stop China from rising to the top is to nuke them. NATO and America are bombing Libya to induce regime change (under the guise of protecting civilians). I won't be surprised if Chinese leaders make sure they have some nukes handy in the event America comes up with the final solution.
Wow, you are a true fan of your state sponsored CCTV news!!
That is a funny thing because our Congress actually want Pres. Obama to stop the involvement in Libya and Yemen to cut down spending. More than half of Americans disagree with our involvement in Libya and we are actually forced to help them because nobody would do it and innocent civilians would die.
This just proved that how selectively biased your so-called free media for you.
Wonder how many of the vocal chinese supporters are paid by the goverment? May be "news farming" like the game farming......
I would not be surprised
Thanks for disclosing this BIG SECRECT! Sounds like you are some sort of Secret Agent. The gov wouldn't be that stupid to give $ to oversea Chinese b/c it eventually goes to the tax systems of these countries.
And how much does Uncle Sam pay for fingering a kwok head like you?
http://youtu.be/6a0zhc1y_Ns. See this video Fareed, believe me you will be interested. I am not sure if people realize the kind of changes happening in the world. I myself did not begin to understand them until recently.
Dan,
Has it ever occured to you that there are plenty of chinese, within the mainland and overseas, who are justifiably proud of China and her achievements? Chinese people are free thinking people and they can make up their own mind whether to agree or disagree with Fareed's analysis. We don't necessarily have to conform to the Western's perspective of world affairs. The Chinese leadership is a very practical leadership: they not interested in exporting ideology or starting a war. Their permanent interest is to ensure that China gets to the top. They are smart enough to know they get to the top thru' trading and not thru' conquest. You get rich by making friends, not enemies.
Too bad that for everyone of you, there are 1000 of chinese mobster that would trash anything that their smart government tells them through their free media.
Expose Fareed Zakaria, this piece of work is talking about movements in all other countries but movement against corruption in India. Only reason I can see is, his dad was part of India's most corrupt political party Indian National Congress. If a Muslim die in India, he will spend days to create hype around the Issue. Anything else, Fareed don't care.
It's sad to see some of this blatantly 'ugly American' comments juxtaposed with the intelligent, thoughtful article by Fareed Z. America is clearly in decline.
Mr. Zakaria,
I think there is obvious bias in your story. It is well known that you are in good books of Indian government for articles like this one. Iwill like to point out to you that India doesn't ot have dispute with china alone. Kashmir is a well known dispute between India and Pakistan which has not been resolved to date. This alone explains the impartiality of your article. Journalists like you and articles like this one are making people tune off CNN.
Asad
All you guys are stupid.
Its quite easy to see how China will behave 20 years from now. Common sense will tell me that the Chinese people will go soft with increasing wealth. Why would they want to confront America and waste their resources on a military build up? Is the risk reward ratio worth it? Chinese people will buy luxury goods, become a house owning society, travel overseas ( you live only once). Give me a good reason why they want to risk it all when all the good things in life are theirs for the taking?
Wow, and to think China has just come out with their first airchraft carrier!
1 aircraft carrier is no big deal. Even Thailand has one. My point is, China will never outspend the US militarily. Do you know that the US has 13 (going to 14) aircraft carriers and over 700 military bases outside of the US? China is not going to make America's day by confronting her militarily. Asian people's attitude is: live and let live. We are not aggressive people. We just want to make money, and perhaps a defence force to help us keep our cake.
why shouldn't we have an aircraft carrier?
@ Li Jin
I never said there was anything wrong with China having an aircraft carrier. Maybe ask Taiwan
China is sure going in the wrong direction. China is going to be a rouge nation. They are 1000 times worse than USA
The growth story of china is over
Iam from Tibet. They treat us very badly. Tibet is never a part of china. I don 't know why USA did not help us when china occupied us
Really? You from Tibet? I'm pretty sure Tibetans don't name themself "Lee". Your Chinese friends are not upset about the article but the comments made by poeple who has never been to China or know Chinese history. Please come down from your imaginary moral high ground and talk facts. Since you obviously don't know much about Tibet history, go spend 20 mintues read through Tibet history at wikipedia and see much control Qiang Long Emporor in Qing Dynasty had over Tibet. Even East Asian History dept of Cambridge University concluded that China had controls over Tibet in terms of both appearance and actual control through its research. I'm not saying Chinese had been angels to Tibetans and I definitely that we need to show more respect to their religous freedom and culture but my point is that those issues are very complicated and not as black or white as you want to see it. Some education never hurt.
Truly Ignorant
I know many people from Tibet, who lost their families who were killed by the Chinese occupation. Their language is different, their dress is different, their food is different, their who way of living is based on religion, which is certainly different. Not one of them sees themselves as Chinese. so where to you get off being so arrogant?
you, Chinese have no respect for Tibets. The only thing you want is their natural resources. You grow up by drinking blood of the nations!
Your Friend: go to Tibet, ask Tibetian people, especially those live in coutryside, make an investigation how many of them think they are not Chinese, be sure to have an Tibetian interpreter, as most of them only speaks Tibetian, the Chinese government is not trying to wash the language away, actually you can also try Tibetian language computer sofware in Lahsa. Those who are now against central government, check their background, I am sure only a few of them are majority former slaves before liberation.
Isn't it kind of funny to you that all the countries in the world including the despicable Uncle Sam recognize Tibet as part of China?
Furthermore, even the word Tibet itself is Chinese pronounciation. Maybe it is about time you stop calling yourself a Tibetan and call yourself a Reincarnater.
totally agree with you, Lee. Believing Chinese means suicide^^ I support for your country' fight to gain independence from China.
Great article Fareed. I can see how all my chinese friends are upset. Truth always hurts. They are afraid even to say word against communist party
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13727822
Vietnam has said it will hold live-fire exercises in the South China Sea amid escalating tensions with China over disputed waters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13727822
How bad is the behavior of China!
China has problems with all its neighbours. Its very funny when they say we are very peaceful They get along well with only rouge nations like N Korea and Pakisthan.
Where's the like button!?
Even today's headline had territorial conflicts between China and Vietnam. China did even care about those islands in the South China Sea until one of the World's largest oil deposit was discovered in the 60's. They restored to force to capture Vietnamese' territory in 1974.
Because they do not treat the master fairly. Do you know what does the "peaceful rising" mean? If you are not smart enough, I am happy to tell you the answer. It means China commits to its peaceful rising by either peaceful way or military means, if necessary. If anyone dare to interrupt this peaceful proceeding, it will be targeted and treated with a way it deserves. Therefore, "peaceful rising" is not "peaceful dealing".
Stupid comment! There is no problem at all among China and other Asian countries. They love our China. Are you a f*** jealous American?
Wow China is buying parts of South Asia, Africa, South America and firms and companies in Europe and N. America. I smell an empire in the making.
Bravo China.
Compared with democracy Indonesia, the mono-party CCP is much better.
China has much more superhighways than Indonesia
China's GDP is higher than Indonesia
In Indonesia, even government official who was convicted with corruption with "bank transfer receipt" as a proof can still FREE.
In Indonesia, someone can pretend to have health problem in order to avoid the court, and no prosecution.
In Indonesia, someone can apply for amnesia for same reasons.
In Indonesia, someone can go out from jail for breast-operation (which in fact the breast-enlargement thingy is leaked).
HOW FUNNY INDONESIA IS.
Yes, the Chinermen will continue to be selfish xenophobes.
The US is pushing China into a direction for internal consumption and is succeeding. Once that is done, they will squeeze out the US competitors and leaving only those who provide things they don't have. If we keep them on export, we could have some influence. Otherwise, why would they need us? Just to be nice?
Many US companies will soon be running the Chinaman's chance in China.
Given the wickedness, corruption, and Godlessness that are such points of pride in the 'west', why would China want to adopt western policies? How many wars has China started in the past year?
Lee,
Sorry but do you think USA will go to war for you? Why would they? What's in for them? China has a population of over a billion. They will fight tooth and nail to keep Tibet within China.
When the rotten capitalism goes down in the mid-21st century, the communism will emerge and save what has left of the planet. Long live Chairman Mao.
Tony L – you definitely are a brainwashed moron. C'mon dude, in a country where everything is controlled and fed by a paranoid government including education, knowledge and information do you HONESTLY believe you will EVER have a real world outlook? All the Chinese government has done is reduced the entire nation into WalMart laborers (or Coolies). As far as Chinese foreign policy goes – its simple, you are just a bully lets fight everyone smaller than us India, Japan, now Vietnam, not Russia (since they kicked your asses back when). You forget, like every bully you will eventually go down (as it ALWAYS happend). But for now you can toot your horn "Made in China" by some poor tortured Chinese villager you will eventually electrocute or shoot and then harvest their organs. Go China!!!
Tony-L is lucky that he is living outside China and is able to comment here.
Or he is a high-level party member that enjoys no restrictions...figures.
You must have been stuffing your mouth with the male organ that the Chinese are harvesting. Have you ever thougtht of stuffing your mouth with a big black one?
YOU already have, so I'll let you enjoy it, and for god sake stop commenting with western names. Its obvious to everyone who you really are!!
To James,
" All the Chinese government has done is reduced the entire nation into WalMart laborers (or Coolies)" ? So you think you are smarter than the Chinese government and you can make everyone a rocket scientists overnight. All countries in Asia from Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore etc started from this manufacturing base. Even Vietnam is doing this now.
Thanks for recognizing Japan, South Korea as countries ( I assume of course that you don't intend to invade them ), and above all thanks for recognizing TAIWAN as a separate country. Now finally we can stop debating the existance of Taiwan – Good job my friend!!!
James,
I don't understand your statement " I assume of course that you don't intend to invade them". I am not from China. If Taiwanese have a beef with China, I can understand. Of course Taiwan currently exists as a separate state or country from China.
Is this history repeating itself? Come on China, cut yourself off from the rest of the world. Cut your access to the global Internet too. It would be not different than ordering all the ships and official records to be burned after Zheng He's voyages.
why do we worry about China? there are two things to be done ,one is bring all the American troups back to U. S. A. ,then second is stop importing goods from China and start manufacture in mexico,then evevtually America wii come back to early statues
Haha, it's ridiculous. Can you fatty stop eating? If we don't feed you, don't beg our Chinese food!
James,
You are the brainwashed moron. Do you honestly believe what you read in your newspapers are truly reflective of the real time conditions in China? Have you ever been to China?
Yup, here we go again, "Yeah China" – Rah Rah Rah!!. Chinese are the only enlightened ones!! What the hell does the rest of the world know. Go China!!! Happy!!! Now go execute some poor villager!!
We'll know when USA has there cap on straight and moving forward when our schools start offering Mandarin like theirs no tomorrow. Obama may be on track with the importance of our survival as it relates to China, but our self serving head-sets just can't seem to get it. Come on politicians give us citizens a sign you know what your doing other than playing with your Weiner.
china is ambitious country and they always wants to rule the world. I am from Viet Nam. In the China" view, Viet Nam is one of its territories. Actually, in history, China has invaded our countries for several times and event our country was China' colony for 1000 thousand years. We fighted against them and gained independence. In recent time, Viet Nam and China have had tensions about the ownership of Hoang Sa and Truong Sa archipelagoes in Sourth Sea. Viet Nam has many historic documents to illustrate that these two archipelagoes belong to Viet Nam.
In 1975, we ended the war against Americans, then 1979 China said that they wanted to help us to recover from ruins, then they used their forces to invade our archipelagoes. We just ended two wars against France and Americans,we are so tired, our country met a lot of troubles like lacking food, water, plus poor economy...so we could not afford to conduct a war any more...SO, be careful with China. Their statements and actions are completely different.
What a misleading statement! Why don't u mention who selfishlessly helped your country fight the French and American? Go figure it out! Don't try to deprive China's right for self defense by your mouth and incorrect statements when sb wants to steal from China.
hey$$ commonsense_ " who selfishlessly helped your country fight the French and American ? "how kind Chinese is ! And now China are famous all over the world for fast development of economy and of course plus fakes and poisonous food.
Yes, you are right, much kinder than your country! If you don't like Chinese product, let me tell you a simple solution rather than just complaining, don't buy it. However, I doubt you can do it. Check around your house, if you find one made in China, you are a hypocrite. I bet you are. Also a bad news for you, regardless your hostile statements, chinese production is unstoppable and will keep growing. Go crying!
You can be comfortable that I never buy Chinese products. $$ However, I suppose that you should buy Chinese food, because this is the shortest way helping you go the heaven soon. Good luck!
What is worrisome is that the vast majority of the Chinese people have no religion.
I don't condone that statement, but let's consider that China is a religious state. Everything will be much worst. They "must save the pagan world." There are enough players in the global religious war. Let's not introduce another player.
I am talking about the Chinese people, not about China as a religious state. All religions teach moral human conduct. In that sense and in the absence of democracy, all religions are beneficial. Some followers of each religion are ignorant, zealous and intolerant, hence the religious wars.
A Chinese government and a Chinse people obsessed with materialistic values, neglecting intellectual and moral values, may be troublesome.
A one-party political system government that speaks for that party, does not represent the entire Chinese people. That is also worrisome.
You're being ridiculous if you think learning morals requires being religious. You're obviously not familiar with Confucianism, which is a completely secular system that is focused on morals and proper interpersonal relationships. Have you even been to China or actually spent time with actual Chinese people? They're very heavy on trying to be good and doing things the right way, but they don't need a religion to force them to do so. Sure, there are some bad people, just like in any religious country.
What Confucious teaching does is to teach how to behave IN FRONT of people. However, deep inside, they are still rotten and corrupt to the core. Chinese manufacturers will do whatever it takes to maximize profit and dominate the market. They are the ultimate player of free economy...the one that put enough money to officials in order to make their own rules.
Isn't China the country of counterfeit everything, intellectual property piracy and poisonous baby milk?
Don't just obsess. Get real! U won't have a right judgment if u don't know the underlying facts well and lack of an appropriate perspective. These are the hard parts for a good analysis. Not everyone can handle this task well even though he sounds or looks smart. That is also why so many people give wrong prediction on China over the last 30 years. By the way, if China doesn't exceed expectation, no one here cares about it even though how bad, as alleged by people here, it is. Just like a boxing game several years ago, the loser didn't fight but bite.
American can't be the man forever. It was bound to happen. America is going to find out how much the world really hates us when china turns into the new power house. China isolated it self from western way of life.. Which was a smart moved.The funny thing about it all it's nothing anyone can do to stop them! Bush took america down starting with a 10yr war and the housing market.. Watch 20yrs from now china, africa, middle eastern countries come to gather against us.. The writing is all on the wall
They already left communism long time ago, mao zedong is dead and only capitalism remains.
Will China stay on course, what a silly question. The Chinese Communist Party is a brutal regime that has murdered 80 million of its own people since 1949.
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is a cruel regime that should be boycotted by every country in the Free World but the truth of the cruelty of the CCP is not being exposed because of corporate greed.Right now the CCP is attempting a genocide of the tens of millions of innocent Falun Gong practitioners but none of these heinous crimes and murders are being reported by the World media again because of corporate greed. Like Bob Dylan said: Money does not talk, it swears ! To learn more facts about the CCP, one may go on line and read The Nine Commentaries. Thank you for your consideration.
Man I hate how all these posts always end up being USA vs CHINA. And to be honest most of the time it's usually some guy who's never even been to China who wants to point the fingers. Both countries are great, rich in history that's both inspiring and tragic. For the Americans who read about China but haven't been there for themselves... please go there you will find that most Chinese people view Americans very positively and in fact like people from all over the world. Most Americans I have met in China love it there.
As an American I understand how frustrating it is right now. Since we were kids America was always on top. Yeah our economy kinda sucks right now but America's always been resilient. We can't sit here and hate on China because they're doing well. If you look it at a historical prospective for the greater part of human history.... the Chinese have been one of the leading civilizations up until about 200 years ago.
China's got plenty problems I know this, my family fled the country when the Communist took over I have every reason in the world to hate the Chinese Government, but I don't. The country's not perfect there's loads of poor folks, it's still modernizing. You ask some old people they'll tell you that yeah they had some rough times in the past but things are getting better. It's not perfect but they think their kids and grand kids will have a better life than they did. People there are just like people in the US. The Chinese dream is the American Dream. They want a house, a car, a family and food on their table to feed them.
Quit making this a us vs them thing, and stop trying to sugar coat things with morals and justice. At the end of the day everyone's just after the same. And all governments are after the same thing: Energy and resources there's always been a competition for it, and every country's guilty of doing questionable things to obtain it. (ex: If we like them they're rebels if we hate em they're insurgents.) The electricity you're using to power your computer has to come from somewhere.
China will never become a great power like USA or Briton in the coming years because it depends on USA for its survival. Because of its trade with USA it has amassed large FX reserves. China will crawl once USA stops its trade with China. Besides, there are not many resources left for any country to become a great power.
Domestic consumption in China is already a larger percentage of their GDP than exports, and the EU, not the US, is China's largest export market. So the premise of your argument is false.
They already were, ever heard of the Silk Road? Or the Yuan Dynasty (Mongol)
To me this article says one thing. Other countries are not playing fair when it comes to NAFTA. For those countries, America simply has to protect itself. Free trade is fine, but fair trade is better. That was the promise of NAFTA that the billions of people from China(as well as other countries but we are talking about China) would also be buying American products. But they don't, and their government wants it to stay that way. I say fine don't buy from them either. There are plenty of other poor countries that we can exploit for cheap goods. They would be happy to take our dollar, just let them know that they need to be fair when it comes to buying from us too.
I love you, CNN! China=Trouble.
Will China stay on course?
The answer is in China neighbor countries' history books.
In China, some ppl are getting better economic benefit as the developed country. maybe some ppl are not. there's a hell lot of perspective to look at a matter. let us come back to love and affection. let me subjectively express as a chinese, u are not chinese, u will never understand a chinese. there is indeed some ties between us. i dont know what the chinese government would do in the future but i can understand the reason on what they did so far. i cant help but to accept what it is. lets hope for some miracle to happen!! anyway, im not from china.
China is doing just enough to keep its people placated, in order to stave off revolution. The false sense of security that instilled in their populatio, is just that. Treat them just fair enough to keep them call. The thing that has always amazed me the most, is how they stay under the radar on world affairs. They just sit back watching the rest of the world destroy themselves. You never hear them bragging about the new super weapons they have, or about their worldly conquests. I guess they just figure to let the rest of the world do all the work, then they will come in to clean up the mess.
Correction on previous post. Too many typos. Should be ( population. calm )
Fareak Zakaria knows everything about everything. Your one source for info on the world.
I visit the websites and post comments with the assistance of machine translation. Thanks my friends for their understanding, support and help."
hey$$ commonsense_ " who selfishlessly helped your country fight the French and American ? "how kind Chinese is ! And now China are famous all over the world for fast development of economy and of course plus fakes and poisonous food.
I don't think there can be a balance between communism and a free market economy. I think China is eventually going to come to a crossroads between expanding their economy and power status in the world and retaining a tight grasp on their people. Money begets freedom and the human instinct of free will which begets self empowerment. The people will rebel and the government will have to decide what to do. If they allow the rebellion, then they lose their control, which of course they want to hold onto for dear life. If they squash the rebellion, eventually the people will just give up all hope and lose all motivation and drive. The Communist party will still be in power, but production will cease and the country will move backwards.
Another reasonable statement. Still, the middle class is rising and sooner or later, some group will know the truth that there will not be enough to go around (could 750 million of the population own a car or two?). And then, riot happens.
中国是社会主义国家，面对现实的发展，中国实行的改革开放，和建设有中国特色的社会主义道路，贯穿着中国政治和经济的发展。
"China is a socialist country, to face the reality of development, China's reform and opening up and building socialism with Chinese characteristics, runs through China's political and economic development."
I wish people would just look at why China is rising in power. Their government focuses soley on GPD growth. They currently have 4-8 fully built ghost towns, equipped with shopping malls apartment complexes food stores EVERYTHING a city needs.
Its just too bad NOBODY has any money to go move in. So china is growing in GDP, but once they exhaust their huge run of work building ghost towns, that GDP plummits so low. It also forces future workers to be unable to have that work at the wage they should get doing it for. It was done years ago at lower wages because they wanted increased GDP..
China is a growing Superpower. Plain and simple she is. I like a lot of your points here. As the lives of regular citizens increases, they will demand more of their government. They will demand better paying jobs, better education, healthcare, working conditions, etc. Some manufacturing companies are moving to Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, India, etc. I've been checking on clothing labels and I don't see a lot being made in China no more. What I saying is that as wages rise, international companies will look to go to other developing countries with cheaper laborers. I don't know if some Chinese companies are doing it already. As gas prices rise, it will rise the price of shipping. I don't know when the balance will shift back to making things in the domestics make though. Though, I have seen an increase in Honda, Toyota, Hyundia, and Kia plants in the US to try to reduce logistics and tariff costs.
Oversea Cost= Increasing wages + increasing Logistics costs + local store cost
Domestic Cost= Lowering wages + cheaper Logistics costs (closer) + local store cost
our chinese friends should know that there are over 20 million christians in india with names like joe, john, etc. There are over 170 million muslims in india. China , unfortunately, has very tight censorship laws, and their people in china do not know what is going on in the world outside. They will soon see such a major real estate bust, that it will shock the chinese people as to what hit them. It will be worse than a nuke bomb. Their ghost cities will haunt them. One reason is that they do not know the wrath of God. They are hurting the dalai lama of tibet by hounding him. They are hurting all their neighbours by their evil intransigence, even threatening vietnamese, taiwanese, japanese, etc. They are supporting the world"s terrorist country- pakistan , by supplying them nuke weapons to hurt india. What will happen to such a devilish country. they will be destroyed by their own evil designs. take it in writing. They will cause pakistan to also be destroyed in a similar manner.
Well, the world knows that the US is on a downward spiral. As a US citizen, all I can do is take care of my family and hope that our elected government does what they say they will do during their campaign 'marches'. In regards to China, it is only a matter of time. Between their closed door policies, market manipulation, patent manipulations, so on and so forth, a country cannot sustain a population and growth boom on thievery and deceit forever... and the only reason the US propped up China was in spite of the USSR. Now look, we propped up China and the USSR when it collapsed and now they are 'bedfellows'. We propped up the 'Taliban' when the USSR invaded and now those same weapons are being used against the US. Crazy how foreign policy works.
Not to worry. Sarah Palin is on her way to China right now. Daughters Piper and Willow are with her and they're each carrying a platter full of mooseburgers and s'mores. The Chinese won't be able to resist their ignorant, backwoods, redneck charm.
what does sarah palin have to do with this story? could it be that you can't get yourself a woman, so you have to degrade any woman who tries to do something that was traditionally for men? get a life, she has every right to pursue her career, if you agree with her or not.
Just remember, you can always take the trash out of the trailer, but you can never take the trailer out of the trash.
@ really?
What makes you so sure Palintwit is a guy?
To all China-haters out there. Re-read the article and behold:
- China does not let popular steam out.
- Maoist politician Bo Something gains popularity.
- China locks itself away from the rest of the world.
- China hosts an all-Africa summit, builds stuff in Pakistan, Ceylon and whatnot.
Also: Paul Craig Roberts (a dude from Reagan's administration) has openly said that NATO is bombing the crap out of Gaddafi for one reason alone: China's investments in Libyan oil. BTW, in 2010, the socialist Libya was No. 1 country in Africa by the standards of living. On the other hand, US and UN have declared the gov'ment of neighboring Sudan responsible for a genocide of a half-a-mil scale, but nobody bombs Sudan.
Naturally, the US gov'ment dreams of undermining the rising power of China with this democracy crap, which it has been discarding on a daily basis at home for the past 40 or so years, because it is simply not working anymore. It's only a Brave New World ahead, folks. It's either a global corporation, or a global revolution.
Haha.. nice one Zulu, yeah democracy is crap... why dont you go to china then, where you can be locked away in prison for saying anything negative about the government. Doucher
Did you not know that Palin bashing is almost as popular an American pastime as baseball ?
I've been to China in 2008, and said bad things about its gov'ment, like "sucking up too much to imperialists" and "if they "stay on course", they'll end up like the USSR one day, if not Iraq". They did not put me in prison.
To Bob Brush comment and his reference to the 'irked' i agree with him...it was rather flippant but does not detract from the insight of Fareed.
As for 'encircling' i guess an unfortunate choice of word but I assume it is trying to make the point of China pursuing geopolitical strategy.....and lets face it, it has had some good case studies when you consider the history of Western foreign policy to other countries and we are possibling seeing it now in the middle east unrest.
Whatever way you look at it, it is impossible to predict future events and those that cause seismic shifts of power, like world wars begin with a spark that lights a fuse....yes the conditions may have been years in the making but it begins with an event that starts an unstoppable chain reaction.
People fearmonger about China, but the truth is that the game of power, which the US is adept at playing, is a brutal one – case in point being Nixon and Kissinger period – and uz westerners are very good at mouthing platitudes about democracy and freedom. truth is they cost a great deal, but we don't see it, distracted by the fruits of our success at transferring wealth and resources from poorer nations. The balance is shifting and China may well undergo a period of isolationism, much like the US not so long ago until it became necessary for it to engage with Europe in fighting the destructive forces of the fascists, the militarists and the Nazi's. before that, it was only too happy to use protectionism to enrich and empower itself – just makes good sense.
but when you consider recent history (last 60-70 years) Western powers have no right to preach to China about the virtues of democracy and freedom when they are used as smoke screens to decieve its own citizens as they raid the resources of other countries in the name of promoting world stability. Its no use getting angry, the laptops and ipads and ipods we are all probably penning our responses on come courtesy of living in wealthy nations. have no illusions, China understands history and its responsibility and has seen nad is undergoing the endemic corruption of capitalism and this corruption does not smell all that different to the corruption that exists in the western nations..they just go about it differently. The communists call a spade a spade and are up front about it, while western governments are sneaky, a lot more sophisticated and underhanded about it and prefer to lie.
This is humanity in the 21st century
Well said and clear. WE MUST LEARN TO LIKE THE DIFFERENCES AND LESS EGO IN US...
Dear Mr. Zakaria,
In my opinion there will never be peace between the Jews and Arabs. There never was a Palastinian state nor should there be now.
Unfortuntely true, the Arabs and especially Palestinians and Arab hard liners will never agree to anythng that would promote peace in the area. Even amongst themselves about the only thing they can agree on is that they all hate Jews. They also think their way is the only way and blame the rest of the world's societies for the problems they have made for themselves. I remember a saying from many years ago when there was an oil shortage due to mid-east unrest, "...let them eat sand." That in response to their price gouging of the rest of the world and their attitude to the west. Maybe we should make that a policy, let them eat sand and oil. The only thing they understand is force which is one reason most Arab countries are basically dictatorships. They do not understand compassion and when someone tries to help them they take it as weekness and use it against their benefactors. It is time that world governments understand that fact and take a much harder line towards the Arabs. LET THEM EAT SAND!
Best piece I've read in years. China will prove to be the story of the twenty first century...for better or for worse.
I think Mao would be proud of the totalitarian, Godless society his legacy has created. People may say China isn't communist, but they really are, in fact, very much in line with Maoism. Mao understood that, in order to maintain the dictatorship of the Communist Party, it would have to "evolve" with the times, so as not to suffocate the masses to the point of all out counter-revolution. So, with Deng Xiaoping's "revisions" we get what we see today, "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics."
Thanks for a foolish comment from someone who obviously has no concept of modern China. Even modern communists no longer revere Mao, he set the country back decades while Taiwan and other countries were flourishing. The communist party has changed greatly in the past 20 years or so and it is in their interest to continued to make progress. Hopefully the reforms will not be reversed but it is up to the U.S. and others to help China in that regard and continue pressure on them to continue their refords. Bad mouthing the Chinese and their government will not help our relations with them.
Thank you for restating what I just said. I have been to China also, and Tibet, and have seen first hand what the modern "People's Republic" looks like. I don't know where you're from, but as an American, I wouldn't cater and support a deceptive, murderous government like that of the CCP. In that sense, you do the Chinese people more of an injustice. Do yourself a favor and read up on who Neville Chamberlin was.
Can you explain what is "Sociolism with Chinese character"?. I bet you have no clue what it is. So stop that stupid non-sense you got from the goverment.
Having lived in Taiwan and visited China a number of times I would agree with Fareed that China is difficult to assess. The Chinese people are generally pro U.S. but, unfortunately, the people do not rule the country and there are still many old style hard line communists with great power. Many of the older Chinese are very unhappy with the more modern stance and economic direction of China in recent years mainly because there were working in the old, inefficient government factories and that was their livlihood. The older generations are not equipped to participate in a market driven economy such as China has been moving toward. Hopefully the younger population will be able to influence the government more in the future and keep China moving toward a golbal economy instead of turing inward which would be bad for the U.S. and other western countries.
The future president of China is very pro-US, and his daughter is currently attending Harvard. I agree that there are still some old school hardliners making transition difficult, but the main obstacle is the US. The US insists on treating China as an enemy, despite the fact that the Chinese people admire the US and desperately want to become a key ally. While the intentions of China's leaders might be difficult to read, the US' intentions are crystal clear. We want China to descend into civil war and chaos, and we are pushing harder than ever to make that happen. More than anything, Chinese people are worried that the US is going to push China into a military conflict to keep China from becoming the world's #1 economy, and the actions of the US certainly seem to be headed in that direction.
Tell your Chinese friends that it is not going to happen b/c people in US do not know how to cook chinese food. It is hard for people to become real friends if they don't enjoy the food together.
China is simply responding to the US' hostile stance towards China. The call for the "Jasmine Revolution" was published on a US website, and one of the only people to show up was US ambassador Jon Huntsman. It is clear that the US is not going to give up its position as the world's only superpower without a fight, and the US is currently doing everything in its power to derail China's progress. The last thing the US wants is for China to become more democratic, we want China to descend into another Cultural Revolution. Fareed Zakaria is a smart guy, but he should just be honest and admit that the US wants China to become a failed state, and we are working hard to make that happen.
You are telling what the US government really want to do!!!
The PRC realized this past year that it was still not their time. They are waiting and growing from within and when the USA falters, the first thing they'll do to exert their power is take over Taiwan. Then they'll return to their Dynastic ways as the Middle Kingdom and force everybody in the world to bend to their will. This is what the USA has been doing for the past 70 years. The Middle Kingdom has been doing it on and off for the past 2,000 years.
Why CNN like to pick up China?
@ F. Zakaria:
All your message is consistent in all your articles about the US and China. Unless China opens its market and US multinationals get a chance to exploit the Chinese market, then there will be hell on the horizon waiting.
Your articles always talk about Chinese success but what is in it for the US. But you have no idea that you are implying the US is left with a military option to dominate over the Chinese as in the days of the Opium War.
I want PEACE let WARS have a Break!
Ever watch a marathon? It's NOT football, basketball, baseball, or hockey. the "leaders" almost never have time to waste energy pushing, shoving, etc. They have trained, evaluated and planned to go the distance. Capitalism/imperialism mostly evaluates for the short term quick fix, conquer and, bottom line, profit. We doubled down on the military solution to every perceived conflict. Showtime hasn't done much since WWII (Korea, Viet Nam, and now the Mid East, etc.) China gets that: concentrates on securing the periphery. They admit they are still a poor country, albeit the number 2 economy in the world. They are spreading their wings with investments overseas. But not with the historical typical colonialist model. Don't need a NATO type structure to enforce. Economic/political one will do, and its a heck of a lot cheaper than the military/industrial model. 400 billion a year? Complete waste of time! Why they even have millionaires. Yet the communist party still runs the show, and can shut down whatever is not acceptable with a phone call. They have come to run, not fight, and are reeling us in without a shot fired. Why should they? they know they have a "winning" formula.
No matter right or wrong, you are such a good writer.
Well put, thank you!
What galls me is the attitude of Chinese in that they give no credit to American lives lost while freeing China from enslavement of the Japanese during and after World War II.
They owe their very existence to us and our troops which died by the millions to defend Asia and all the islands in the Pacific.
This charge is groundless. There is at least one movie vividly describing how chinese people saved a US pilot and fighted the Japanese during the world war II. The movie was made in mainland China in 80s. It reminded people that the US contribution should be appreciated and remebered. There are tons of books and papers recording this extraordinary cooperation btw the two countries. Everyone in China knows it. Until recently, China is still helping the US to recover the pilots' bodies in the remote mountains.
Unfortunately, US was not fighting to save China, but for its own goodness. Between Japan invaded China and Pearl Harbor, US was doing a good amount of business with Japan. Should China complain, probably not. The business was not in China's interest, but best to US. This is nature of politics-economics.
Kwok Head, you must not have realized that America helped China only after Pearl Harbour was attacked. Furthermore, if it was not because of the Chinese who tied up millions of Japanese soldiers fighting in China, America would be a Japanese colony now.
Wrong! The US was helping China fight the Japanese BEFORE the attack on Pearl Harbor. Ever hear of the Flying Tigers? Almost everyone in China certainly has, and they are grateful to this day for our help. If you ever visit Chongqing, you can even visit a museum dedicated to General Stilwell and the Flying Tigers.
You have obviously never been to China, because the Chinese people are very grateful for their assistance during WW2. There are memorials and museums dedicated to our leaders and particularly the Flying Tigers. Most Chinese people admire and respect Americans, and we return this with hatred and racism.
......................Well what comes up must come down => US, so no surpise there.
&&& Does it matter? Dear author and other readers of this comment look up Tang dynasty, we were the world's super power around 3000 years ago.
& So, let's just ignore other people's uprise (again) and start bring back the military from the hundreds of bases outside of the US.
& Please read up China's history and culutre and go there (for real, not just saying it) before starting up the hate.
If you hate something you know nothing about..................which is about 50-100 comments here, at least 25% of commentors here, then you are a pigheaded ignorant fool.
& With so many haters, no wonder the US society is going down the drain, please intellectuals in the US make your voice heard, this is your image on the world stage, it can be improved if only you start commenting, and sart from within. (^.^)
US wants China staying on the "course", there is no doubt about that. Obviously this "course" is in US's best interest. China would rather stay on the course in its own best interest.
I think every INDEPENDENT country would do so.
USA's GDP = $14.37 (2010) trillion dollars with an annual GDP growth of around 2%
China's GDP = $5.8 (2010) trillion dollars with an anuual GDP growth of around 9%
China's growth is much higher than ours but our GDP is around 250% larger than theirs so they have a long way to go to catch up to us. In the long run eventually China's corporate empire (as it booms and become much bigger) will try to drastically change the current communist style (for instance Chinese oil refiners were unable to raise the price of gasoline becuase of communist policies) and this will cause a lot of turmoil and cause China's economy's growth to slow or even contract if the turnmoil escalates into another cultral revolution. Or at the very least it will slow economic growth as the power struggle rages. Also as China's economy grows so does ours (hopefully), so it would take even longer for China to catch up to us. I think it would take at least several decades (20-30 years) for China's economy to reach the sizes that the United States is. I am aware that China holds $1 trillion dollars of USA treasuries, but they will never own us lock and key (as far as I can see as of now). This is just my opinion. In order for the USA to turn their economy around, they need to invest heavily in their infastructure in order to create a larger industrial base and more jobs. Back in the 1950's we had 30% of the work force in the USA working on industrial based jobs. Now it is only 10% of the workforce. The financial sector before the crash created 40% of all US corporate profits. Financial services don't help reduce our trade deficit and spur economic growth, but manufactored goods and more jobs would. On a side note, currently for every 1 dam we repair, 2 more are deemed structually unsound. But the Republicans are on a mission from Hell to direct money to the Pentagon and failed banks instead of repairing our desparetly in need of saving dams (and other sectors of our infastructure).
Your claculation is a simple math. Remind you the RMB appreciation. I predict China will overtake The US in terms of GDP size before 2020.
The Chinese are wonderful people. It's the Communist Party that cannot be trusted. And, increasingly, the PLA.
People should learn from history. The communist China government is acting the same way as facist German or imperialist Japan during WWII. It stirs up nationalism with propaganda and brainwashes its citizens into wars with its neighbors and the world. Peace loving people, let's bring down the communist cronies now.
which is why the people and their government are on a collision course if China suffers the slightest hint of a recession and the CCP knows it. Their amazing economic streak is the only thing keeping the Chinese people quiet. And economic streaks never last forever.
Everyone needs to ask themselves why the US media, including Fareed Zakaria, withholds so much information about China from the American people. For example, the US media refuses to tell the American people that General Liu Yazhou (the political commissar of China's National Defence University) has publically stated that China will be a Western-style democracy within 10 years. This guy is in charge of political indoctrination of China's military leaders, and he openly says China is soon going to become a democracy. He made these statements in August, yet the US media completely censored his remarks. The truth is, the US media is nothing more than a propaganda machine. They intentionally withhold such information from Americans because their goal is to create hatred and fear of China, not provide accurate information. Another good example is the fact that China holds more democratic elections than any other country. Most Americans are shocked to hear this, but that's only because we are constantly bombarded with anti-China propaganda, and information about China's democratic elections is intentionally withheld. Don't take my word for this. Do some research for yourself. You can Google Liu Yazhou to find his comments, which were widely reported outside the US. Also, check out the Carter Center for information about democratic elections in China. You have to look for this information yourself, because the propagandists in the US media will never report this.
Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last.
The analysis is only partially correct. It is wrong to conclude that China is closing up and turning inwards. Also, the conclusion cannot be drawn that China has stopped evolving into a full democracy. The question is the how, and in what time frame. Democracy will not happen in China as a result of foreign pressure, or an immediate consequence of changes in other countries. Political changes will only happen as seen needed by the internal consensus. Any external pressure, actual or perceived, will only counter-act the evolution of political reforms in China. This collective mentality of the Chinese populace was cast by past suffering under foreign intervention. Foreign pressure, benevolent or malign, only harms the Chinese interests.
According to General Liu Yazhou, China will be a full democracy within 10 years. As political commissar of China's National Defence University, he is responsible for the political indoctrination of China's military leaders. So if the PLA leadership says China will be a democracy within 10 years, it will be hard to prevent that from happening.
So, it may be true the general said that, but since when do people take what others say as truth with no regard for any actions? Your self deception is beyond repair and gives total credit to the CCP. Congratulations.
The US has some of the best schools in the world – Harvard, Yale, so on and so on. All produce some of the smartest people in the world. What if back during the cold war, these people thought seriously about how to fight communism? What if their answer to the USSR was to build better weapons and defeat their economy by taxing it with trying to keep up with the technological advances of a free market? Now how would these same or similar people approach China? Anyone knows it is not always wise to follow the same path twice when faced with an opponent, and may be they knew that an arms race wasn't the best solution to ending communism in China. What if the US gov't studied China and determined the best way was to defeat it's government via capitalism? Free trade brings free thought, information and revolution. (look at some of the US revolutionaries – Paul revere, John Hancock, etc all businessmen first). Is it possible that the US is really manipulating the Chinese people to overthrow their own government for freedom? Furthermore, China delenda est.
US manipulating Chinese people, lol. Yeah.........in your dreams, yes there are the top schools but if you haven't noticed the normal American does not care about education, look at the opinion pieces on it on CNN.With uneducated people, you can't do anything.....other then whine and puff your chest out as if you are something your not. Uhhhhhhhhhh..............and too much freedom is what got California into trouble remember.........there is a balance. STOP SHOUTING "FREEDOM, FREEDOM, FREEDOM" WHEN YOUR OWN "FREE" COUNTRY IS IN A HOLE THAT IT CAN'T GET ITSELF OUT OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Something tells me your eyes are green from jealousy – European? Middle Eastern? yes the US is in a hole but it is not somewhere it hasn't been before (it's the 70's all over again). As for California, you assume too much. Not all of California is that way. Remember Reagan? Furthermore, China delenda est.
@SF1, Why would I be jealous? Aren't you blinding yourself to the real problems in your own country while hoping the worse for another, namely China. War isn't good in any context, and the so called "freedom" thinkers is a joke. Read up Plato and his view of democracy because that's what's not happening in America right now.
& See, you assume that I'm weastern, which is completefuls, the first problem with America mentailty. I'm from the country that this article is trying to fear and hate monger from. When I can tell you, WHO CARES, and you can look up China's history to see the reason.
& Another problem, why would you even want the Chinese to be manipulated by Americans......? Karma, and that's like one side's playing chess (American) and the other side's playing Go or Wei Qi (China). Neither can win and they have their own goal, foolish sheep.
Inbuilt functionalities of human beings are survival and propagate ..So its quite natural feeling for many people to fight or talk against enemy country ..
But still we human beings couldn't eliminate poverty , could not give clean drinking water for many, could not protect our mother earth from global warming, still we don't know what is after mars, still (we don't have a defense system if aliens attack earth..:-) )
As an Indian, China and Pakistan is are my enemy even after eating food from pakistani shop and using chineese product.. what a irony ..?
I am not a fool to think countries are going to dismantle its army and stop fighting someday ,
My point is, now we have a common platform for people from different nationalities to meet and talk because of INTERNET and site like CNN.. Let's talk peacefully and work for a peaceful world even it may be a little boring..because its not inbuilt functionality of human-being
Don't we wish. But all takes is one greedy, angry, oppressed, or desperate person to start shooting, and you could have a war. Sometimes you have no choice but start or fight a war. Some people don't care what others have to say. War is the human way. Throughout history, war has always been the answer, sometimes it really is the only answer.
As long as U.S. Americans keep supporting China's economy at their own expense China will continue to grow ... that is until the U.S. economy is completely drained of resources.
Be careful with your mouth! Who is supporting and feeding who? You Americans are always hungry for our "food". Thinking one day when we stop feeding you and the world, what would happen. hahaha
That would be a nice day for the world, because, you, chinese stop robbing and stealing from others!
Ameriacan Idea is just a piece of shit! Stoping Invading other other countries first!
I don't think it will be so much a question of America vs China but a Chinese civil war, maybe in the next generation or this one as the people absorb more "western" ideas such as democracy through the internet, its advancing faster than the filters. They also are going to have problems caused by their male to female ratio. It won't really start until the Chinese economy slows down, which it will sometime in the next ten years. This streak can't go on forever especially if America moves towards producing again. They are already having ethnic clashes in their border areas as well.
The point is sometime in this decade or maybe the next, China is going to face massive protests, which will turn into a civil war if the government follows the path of cracking down opposed to reform. This could get ugly.
America will probably get pulled in. A billion people fighting over nukes is a security threat to the whole world.
Sorry to tell you but civil war's unlikely, look up China's 5000 years of history.....and the government does do something when there's a protest. War is the American way to solve things....not the world's war, especially not China's way. There isn't going to be divide and conquer with some American puppet dictator.
It may seems outlandish, but please consider the possibility that the US government is preparing for war with China, to thwart her rise to the top. Consequently, efforts are being made to demonise China in the US press for almost everything. From democracy to rare metals etc etc: the list is endless. In the US, China is the new evil empire. But who is really the evil empire?
BTW, Bo Xilai ia a very westernised Chinese communist leader. Speaks good English and very cosmopolitan. Perhaps the Red campaign is to tamp down his pro-liberal credentials among the Parth faithful?
@Chinese American
You are nothing more than a dumb ass American who thinks the USA is corrupt free and is a country without problems. You are a white-wash wannabe who can not adjust to the lifestyle in China. Don't you ever lay foot on Chinese soil again you no good son of a bitch.
Thump up! It also applies to the Americans who do not know how to respect us Chinese.
Chinese government promise to maintain justice and peace but then their government invaded other countries like Vietnam, Malaysia and Philippines. China is big but has no face and nasty. People in the world now can see how Chinese government look like. I do know that chinese culture is illegally copy others and invaded other smaller countries but i cannot image how nasty they are when they easily say lie and break promise. Thing has its own price and ASEAN now can not be a friend with China because they talk rubbish and has no self-esteem to keep promise. We people in Singapore has more reason to believe that China is big but nasty and freaking unreliable. We hate dirty China and we will reject whatever related to China anytime, anywhere in the world !
...............................................Everything's made in China about 90% or so.......and if you're in Singapore, there's a portion of Chinese citizens and residents. You can't reject them all.
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1. Please avoid war. Day by day war cost increase $ 3.5 trillion
2. Global economy in crisis
3. International job less
4. Global financial crisis
5. Financial crisis for every manufacture
6. World poverty problem
7. Each every single man effected
8. Ignore future death million of already death
9. million Of people wounded
10. Global environment climate will be change this will lead global agriculture problem
JUSTICE IS IN PERIL. SAVIOUR OF INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE ALONE CAN PROTECT HUMANITY
Mr.M.S.Mohamed Ansari,
154, Angappa Naicken Street,
Chennai – 600 001.
Tamil Nadu, India.
To
The Hon’ble Chief Justice,
The Supreme Court,
United States of America,
Washington, D.C.
Fax no: 213.547.8080
Sir,
Sub: Prosecution of previous President Mr. George W.Bush, for violation of International Code of Conduct.
Mr. George W.Bush, the previous President of United States of America, initiated a war against IRAQ, without obtaining the previous sanction of United Nations Organization (UNO) on the pretext of having nuclear weapons, even though the then IRAQ government openly exhibited to the whole world that it has no nuclear weapons.
According to the CNN WORLD report, in the war 6, 75,000 civilians killed, 7500 troops of USA and its allied forces killed 3 25 000 people wounded and $ 3.5 Trillion Dollar spent for the war. This spending of $ 3.5 Trillion Dollar is the main cause of action for the present economic crises prevailing all over the world.
After winning the war against IRAQ, the United States of America’s President Mr. George W.Bush, also admitted the same fact, and he openly stated that the Intelligence agency misguided him.
Later on, even the United Nations Organization (UNO) also certified that the IRAQ has no nuclear weapons.
Then it is the bounded duty of the United States of America and its allied forces to withdraw from IRAQ.
But instead of withdrawing from IRAQ, the United States of America and its allied forces formed a government in IRAQ, under their control and administered the entire IRAQ, and its peoples.
This indicates a clear violation of duty by the President of United States of America Mr. George W.Bush and also a clear case of violation of the International Code of Conduct for UNO members.
Thus Mr. George W.Bush attracts prosecution for the above said offence.
Thus I hereby pray this Hon’ble Court initiate criminal proceedings against Mr. George W. Bush, and give him maximum punishment for
a) Initiating the war against the IRAQ
b) Killing its innocent IRAQI peoples
c) Killing troops of USA and allied forces and
d) The present economic crises.
e) 3 25 000 people wounded
Dated on this day of 13th day of April, 2009.
Yours truly,
(M.S.MOHAMED ANSARI)
COPY TO
The Chief Justice, the International Court of Justice, The Hague, Netherlands.
The Secretary General, United Nations Organization
The Chief Justice, the Supreme Court, IRAQ.
His Excellency Mr.Barack Obama, the President of United States of America, White House, Washington D.C.
What is this crap? His Excellency? (sigh)...It's a very brave new world indeed.
How much crap would a crabby crab crap if a crabby crab like this crap did crap crap.
The bottom line is china is greedy and they had own interpretation of laws and meanings egocentric people aside from communist demon.The cross will struck them at the end of the day.
Are you scared and jealous with us?
I am not scared and jealous in your feared and tyrannic system. I rather die in your aggressions policy rather than to live with your tendency to occupy our land and to rule the world come what may.
China is controlled and run by gangsters.They control China by brute force. Fascism is too high brow a description. .
You stupid!
You are stupid! because you don't know the reality in your proud country or either you are part of the family of organized crime?
i agree.
The way I see it is that there are two Chinas, one of them is the real China , with a 5000 year history, of kind and gentle Buddhist and Tao philosophies, including so many innovations in all forms of science and art, and then there is the second China, which is the brutal Chinese Communist Party.
The Chinese Communist Party is the enemy of good people everywhere. All the Governments of the World are aware of this fact and of the many heinous crimes that the brutal Party has committed on their own people, lately on spiritual groups such as Christians and Falun Gong. The only reason that the so-called free world is dealing with this monster, the Party, is because of corporate greed.
I believe also that history will remember the silence of Western leaders and news outlets. Through their policies of free trade with Communist China, they have continued to lavish rewards upon the communists, dictators, tyrants and thugs who oppress China. With their deliberate blind eye for this persecution, they have brought shame to a Western world that once vowed, "Never again" in the face of genocide.
Let me be clear. Their China policy is no better than "leaving the Jews in the gas chambers." Their China policy is one of moral cowardice, and reveals craven indifference to human suffering. Western China policy is akin to a crime against humanity of its very own.
Some questions, I'm pretty sure you're not Chinese and never visited China.......maybe a tea party or red neck? But in the last 20 years who's been starting the most wars? Which country is preaching "democracy" while allowing lobbiests to run the country? Who's been putting puppet dictators in the Middle East area? Who's militry spending budget is five to ten times of China, in the trillions? Which country is the one with pat downs at airports? Which country OWNS other countries 14 trillion?
1 Answer "USA, USA, USA!!!!" So look at your own mess first before pointing at a problem you think another person have.
Will China stay on course?
It sounds good but.......China is creating massive amounts of garbage and undermining any progress in global warming... people need to take a good honest look at the total picture of China and the world......... what rises fast falls fast.
But you guys still import that "garbage" from us, right? haha
It is just so nice to know that we can stop importing from China, and get the stuff else where, while China just can't stop making those trash.
Check out everything from your house and see how many come from us? Can u stop using them? hahaha
Dont worry when they have a drought that lasts a few years, they will feel the effects. Big time, and so will the rest of Asia btw.
Americans the world are afraid of us – the great China. We are rising and becoming bigger and bigger. Haha. Be careful with your words, Americans!
The chinese goverment is the worst lying country in the world, they alway talk like they are the peace loving country. They talk againts the war. But in reality, they are using their big army to attack and killing vietnamese fishermen. Never trust the chinese goverment in any degree
You think America is afraid of you shitheads? You're dumber than the usual Chinese internet troller working for the CCP/PLA/ or whatever gestapo thug agency you're working for. I'm in agreement with @ vietnamese, and I fought against them as a US Marine. We kicked your ass in Korea, and if our politicians and suck-ass businessmen get out of the way we'll do it again, with the Indians, Vietnamese, Taiwanese, and the other countries in the southern and western Pacific you threaten at our sides.
You are no longer "communist", you're Chinazis, thugs who invaded/occupied/colonized Tibet by murdering monks & nuns, which you continue to do to this day. How brave of you to make war on unarmed monks & nuns. You are the worst menace of the new millennium, but not everyone kisses your ass to make a buck. When you break out to conquer what you think is yours I'd love to to be there with a former Vietnamese enemy now ally to wax your asses back to the run-down village you came from.
If you are such a progressive nation as your laughable propaganda states, release the real Panchen Lama you kidnapped WHEN HE WAS ONLY 6, pack up your Tibetan colonists and your gestapo-like thugs and get out of Tibet. Tibet is part of China like the Bahamas are part of Iran.
Both you are idiots and liars. Don't you know that most Asia (land and sea) belong to us. We'll do any necessary actions to keep them safe from any idiots. If any countries want to intervene us, they will regret!
reply to yours, June 12 at 12:47PM:
You ought to change your nomme de stupide to "Brain Long Gone". Your reply verified my statements that your demented Party is more National Socialist – read "Nazi – than communist anymore. I'm sure that the other Asian/Pacific nations are thrilled to know that China thinks they have a right to their territory & sovereignty. That kind of thinking became passe when the Europeans secured numerous concessions from your Heavenly Empire.
You do not have any legitimate claim to Asia, land or sea. What you have are illegal occupations of Tibet and Inner Mongolia, parts of northern India including a part of Kashmir, and some Pacific islands you helped yourselves to. As far as "regret", well we'll say prayers for you after you've embarked on your adventure of conquest and the free world buries you. If the other Chinazis are as brilliant as you that won't be that difficult. Then when sharing a drink with the Indians, Vietnamese, Japanese, etc., we'll all have a good laugh over the buffoons who would be kings.
China will stay on course, of course, all the way to oblivion and utter destruction.
Stupid wish never becomes true
Bill Rich is right! Because a country of Godless like yours has no place in this planet. And I assumed your real name is not Brian long because you have no knowledge in the God of words.
@ John, bring god into this??????????? Look at what it's done to your country first............and besides this isn't the religous blog, and tao and buddhism was around way longer than "christ", China isn't unreligous, we don't force our religon on everyone we see while not practicing it. TAKE U R RELIGOUS BS TO THE BELIEF BLOG!!!!!!
China need a change ! So many history ordinary chinese could not know.
Folks look at China. That is the model that America is being transformed into. Do any of you want that? Most likely a loud no. Then start paying attention. Because America is sliding backwards away from freedom. So could care less about China. We've got our own problems here. All the fighting we've done for 10 years hasn't made us safer. If anything it has given the A-holes in DC an excuse to crush this Republic. They've done more damage to our nation then any fanatic could dream of. The insane, stupid process we all have to go through to get on a plane is pathetic. Really, we're all going to stand by while they start with pat downs of CHILDREN??!!!!! REALLY??!!!!! There's the state of our Union. It's barely on life support. All the while folks care more about dancing with the %$#@ing stars!!!
To read an India person talk about China, is just like to read an Arab person talk about Israel. Just not justify
RE: "...As a young Chinese,I can't see why we want a war,or rule the world. This generation is more or less Americanized.We like the idea of liberty,the pursuit of happiness,etc...."
The problem is China has a culture that embraces submitting to authoritarian control. China's fairly recent history is a glaring warning: blocking the UN in Sudan, violent crackdowns in Tibet, Mao deliberately murdering millions...China has proven it is willing to do anything to prevail. Pursuit of happiness will only come after your peasant revolt...
Pls enlighten me how did Mao murdered millions? If this is so, why are they still hanging his portrait outside TAM? Dr. Li Zhisu, who was Mao's personal physican, stated in his book Mao was genuinely upset that the Great Leap Forward's policies caused mass starvation in the countryside. It may be true his policies caused starvations by the millions but this is not the same as he deliberately and wilfully killed millions.
The course that China should move forward on, is the course that China believes is best for itself, in accordance to its objectives, principles and culture. The way this article is written is as if China needs to reform itself to "catch up" to our (Western) views on foreign policy, human rights and the economy which is a smug assertion that we got it right, and they didn't.
I am a proud American, and I have been to China several times, and when I go there, I feel like they espouse the seemingly-forgotten values that made America great – individual responsibility (rather than a welfare state) while caring for one's neighbor, a focus on education, entrepreneurship, a business-friendly government, a radical independence (China does not want to take over the world, just keep their own country safe and free from foreign pressure), and so forth.
Aside from these shared principles, what works for China will not always work for the US, and vice-versa. We are talking about a country five times the size of the United States in population, and one that while the second largest economy in the world is also one of the fastest growing (and btw, the growth is based on REAL goods being produced and traded, not financial trickery).
Probably the most sensitive criticism of China is it's human rights record, and view towards free speech. At the end of the day, someone is going to violate your rights. In the United States, outside of economic policy, it is rabid violent and property crime. I live in a city where homicides, rapes and robberies are common-place. We have far less police officers in the US per-capita (in part, because of wage-fixing), who have a much shorter leash, and thus while we are less likely to have our rights violated by the government, we are much more likely to have them violated by our neighbors. China is remarkably safe – violent crime is very, very rare. At the end of the day, everything is trade-off...
Now, this is what I would call a very objective reply by an American who has seen, live and experienced the cultural divide. You need to experience China to come up with your own assessment re China rather than read all those biased, war mongering articles.
Why are undocumented workers waived from paying out-of-state tuition in certain areas? American Citizens are paying for it. I am back in school again because of off-shoring and outsourcing. I have a couple companies and, again, how can I run a business without the funding and tax-breaks that other companies get for sending business off-shore. I completely agree with education but, reality is that you still have to eat and live. Education is not free. My business is taxed to death. How can I think of innovation if I can't pay bills. Creditors cut off credit. I am a hard-working individual. I work at least 18 hours a day and do my school work. I am a computer science major and couldn't live off what companies want to pay now because of off-shoring. The show you just ran is so one-sided.
Have your guys been to China before? outside of US media ,just come and take a look what happens here.
could some guys whom as Amurcan just stop the bullshit please! I am thinking you are brainwashed by your goverment as which you think that we are brainwashed . just think it.
Really @wei...have u been to America. We are not brainwashed that's why we are able to be honest with ourselves and stand up for ourselves. Our country has sold everything to other countries. Your post is ambiguous..Just think what???? Try learning English first before you attempt to post something just as absurd as the crap we are being fed from our government.
Kathy,
I been to America and I can speak and write both Chinese and English. Can you? No need for you to put Wei down for his English if you can't read or write Chinese.
Kathy
I'm 100% behind you. I adore American Democracy system, honesty value and high moral standard. I konw why those Chinese are trying to demonize American. They were taught to do so by their gmt or they work for China gmt(wumau party or 50Cents party). We are not brain washed by any media. In this free country we chose whatever we want to know. And we make judgement with our heart. Not like people in China were fed information by China Communist Government(central propaganda Dept.). They don't get to twit, or facebook or youtube and etc.
The problem with monolingual Americans are they get brainwashed by their media and they don't even know it. American propaganda is so bloody subtle, readers get worked up by what they read in their biased media. They need to be bilingual (preferably Chinese and English) to realise they swallowed hook, line and sinker by Fareed. I think M gave a very good reply. Pls read his posting.
America does not need more education. Both Steve Jobs & Bill Gates were dropouts.
We need for those major companies to stop being so greedy by putting up road blocks to stifle new intellectual property from reaching the day of light with policies of only getting their intellectual property from within. Or hiding behind their websites refusing to have face to face with small business owners.
The Small Business Administration should be directed to make direct loans to small business. This does not include GM, Ford or the big banks.
The Commerce Department should be offering their international services for free. The major companies do not need their help. It is the small businesses who need the help marketing their products and services overseas. These ideas and much more would create jobs.
Our government needs to reassess which countries are a threat and which are not. Because a lot of people from countries who are not a threat are being denied visas to vacation in America.
The media needs think outside of the box and start seeking advice from the general public rather than high profile failures like Donald Trump.
Innovation is not as complicated as you are trying to make it out to be. I have several patients in very different unrelated fields of art. They all came from identifying a problem, then coming up with the solution. The hard part is getting these ideas, products or services to the market.
In the arena such as Corning Ware, they have not come up with a good idea for this product line since they created the material. Yet when a person such as myself offers them several new products, which would increase market share, I could not get the time of the day. I guess I should to be talking with the Chinese or the Koreans.
You cannot teach creativity. You have to find these innovators and support them. This is what America is not doing. Now for the very first time in American history, America is now facing the strong possibility of loosing it's brain trust to other counties and markets. We as a nation have enjoyed taking the brains from other countries.
Anyone who says that American is falling behind because other countries (like Latin American Countries, China, etc.) are finally doing well...are completely out of touch. Any country that does well (with a few exceptions of course) is good for all of mankind. We have to get rid of this "America has to be number 1!" mentality. It's a small world and if we don't realize how small it really is sooner than later, we're gonna be in big trouble. Look at the environment for an example – the entire planet's ecosystem is about to collapse. Now that's something to worry about.
So Apple employee's about 50,000 people in the U.S., and well over 1,00,000 in China. Is this a bad thing? Apple just created over 1 million jobs for the Chinese!!!! And those Chinese workers don't care that they don't have 401ks, so that's why your brand new iPhone 4 doesn't cost $2,500.
I guarantee that there's intelligence life out there watching us and observing how we behave and think. I bet they're puzzled as to why we do the things we do. A human being is a human being – and no imaginary country border changes that the slightest bit. Why can't we just do what's best for all? all humans? all countries? all animals? the environment? the entire planet!??!?
So as Americans, should we be worried that China and other countries are surpassing us? NO – China has 2 billion people; the U.S. has 350 million. China's economy BETTER surpass ours, otherwise there's going to be a lottt of homeless Chinese (about 1.5 billion to be exact).
I'm so grateful that my generation has made a lot of progress, especially with respect to electing the most qualified presidential candidate DESPITE the fact that he's black (actually he's half black, so he's just as white as he is black...so if you call him black, I'm gonna call him white). I only pray to God that the younger generations do the right thing. Otherwise we need those aliens watching us to come give us some help...big time.
^.^ Good to see someone who is objective &&& Not hoping the worse for another country, people like you should speak out more!!!!! Otherwise these forums are either run by A) Trolls B) If you're not with us, you're against us or C) People who are stuck in the fifties. And your observation is very correct, just by the population difference there should be more people employed.
The Demise of America
by Cliff Strait
06/04/11
It is unfortunate for America, the President and the media have the ears of all the wrong people. Most of these people are the same people who helped get this country in the mess it is in, in the first place. It is time to get fresh minds and some fresh perspectives from those who have been in the trenches trying to survive what the media and the government seem to do nothing more than pay lip service to.
After World War II, the United State’s economy was built on outsourcing and imports. This was born out of three things, the rebuilding of several war torn countries, US corporate greed and a country that wanted the best of everything at the lowest price. We should now know this was a double edge sword. We got the cheapest prices at the cost of American factories and jobs. Plus we gave our competition the know how and the ability to out produce us.
The name brands such as all the oil companies, GE, the old AT&T / Western Electric, Motorola, GM, Ford, Apple all have or had corporate offices in America while producing their so called American goods overseas, then selling them back home in America as American name brand products. In reality these products were just foreign made American brands. Most of the fortune 500 companies single handedly turned America into a consuming nation and a weak non producing country.
These mentalities lead to today’s trade deficit, rise in the national debt and the demise of our monetary system and our government. Our government being one of the world’s largest consumers.
The American people and our government are not going to do what is right or needed to survive the day, by stopping the purchase of all imported oil and getting on hydrogen fuel which does not compete with food. Nor does hydrogen power move the pump from the car to the utility companies as does the electrical or battery powered cars require.
The US needs to get rid of minimum wage. Make allowances for an immigrant labor force because manufacturing and small startup businesses need cheap labor. Plus, it allows this labor force to contribute to Social Security, pay for insurance and taxes. Believe it or not, having immigrant labor creates more higher paying American jobs and an increased quality of life. Plus, it keeps the money in America.
Restructure the Small Business Administration to benefit only small businesses, not the GM’s of the world and have this newly created agency make direct loans. This agency needs to become the color blind angel for small business which has always been the backbone of the American economy. If a small business fails or relocates outside of the US, it does not effect the nation to the extent of a major company, such as any of the fortune 500 companies which I now refer to as; multinational corporations. These companies have no allegiance to any one country. Their allegiance is solely to profit.
The Commerce Department should be offering their international services for free. The major companies do not need their help. It is the small businesses who need the help marketing their products and services overseas. These ideas and much more would lead to job creation.
It is not possible for America to become a protectionist market. America needs to stop settling on the idea that America has to be reduced to a service nation and get back to the business of being innovative and productive of it’s own innovations. The government needs to come up with incentives to keep the production of these innovations and intellectual properties in America.
If America does not get a handle on this, they face the prospect of losing it’s brain trust. By this I mean, for the first time in American history, our most educated and talented will be looking outside of America for their jobs and providing their talents and skills to other companies in other nations. Providing the much needed technology, innovations and intellectual property to the rest of the world. Right now, America enjoys acquiring the brain trust from other countries. I fear the reverse of this is in the very near future.
Another issue that continues to go unchecked is the fact of our universities are getting away with hoarding their foundation funds, endowments, and other gifts by not providing merit scholarships. Then constantly raising the cost of a higher education by increasing the cost of education. Especially at a time when the economy is such that many families are struggling to put their children through our universities and trying to survive at the same time. Further disenfranchising the poor and minorities. Rather these universities refuse to fund merit scholarships by only providing need based government grants and scholarship monies. All of this government money ends up in their pockets. It appears they found away to get into the US Treasury. Plus they are in control of artificially increasing the cost of education at the expense of the treasury. Most of these funds are mandated to be used only for tuition, not for housing, books, transportation or any other living expenses these students would incur while attending school.
This allows these institutions to use their own money to fund activities to create more profit off the backs of these paying students. One such money making activity is to build parking garages of which the already money strapped paying student has to pay for. One would think as much as they are charging for tuition, parking would be part of the deal.
Then you have state colleges and universities engaging in the same practices. I feel both private and state college institutions need to have their tax status changed from nonprofit to for profit.
These same universities have the money to provide scholarships for the money sports such as football, basketball and baseball. They have no problem spending their money on the infrastructure for these sports programs and stadiums. In other words these universities are saying that they willing to come out of pocket for bronze rather than brains. Bronze produces a return on investment while brains has no financial return unless it is government funded.
If China does not fix the growing discrepancy between high income and low income families and if it does not fix the myriad of social injustices going on; it will eventually face a similar situation that is going on in the middle east.
Continuation:
"The Demise of America"
by Cliff Strait,
06/04/11
The US government needs to take a hard look at local governments, utility companies, hospitals and insurance companies who are all raising cost in a market that is declining because they are monopolies or the consumer is forced to purchase these services by state or federal laws. This needs to be addressed because, rising state taxes, electrical bills, water bills, trash pickup, waste water bills, and other fees, medical cost, insurance for the car, home and healthcare are the very activities which can drive the stake into the hearts of small business and consumers who have lost their jobs and their homes. These cost alone are enough to explain the flight from America by many Americans today. Not taking in consideration the number who have left over the last several years.
Then we have the fraud being perpetrated by wall street. Wall street in no way shape or form reflects what is taking place in the marketplace. Wall street is mostly moved up or down by a small number of investors, mainly hedge funds, massive computers and the like.
No one talks about how many of the companies are meeting wall street’s expected goals. These companies are not gaining new market share by growing their market share through their products or services. What many do in a down market is to stop maintaining their infrastructure. They lay people off and make them the problem of the government by putting them on the unemployment rolls. In other cases, they buy out their competition which gives the appearance of a gain in market share. In this process, more jobs are lost. Then there are the support businesses and service companies who end up going out of business because of the loss of a relationship with the company who has been just chopped up. One wonders where the FTC is while all of this is taking place. The consumer ends up with less competition and higher prices in the end. With the blessing of FTC.
The government needs to deal with the issue of price fixing among the oil companies and non productive federal oil leases. These non productive leases should be considered as a breach of contract and withdrawn and put back out to bid with stronger contract language which includes production and clean air laws.
The too big to fail needs to be thrown out the window. Many of these large companies have forgotten their social responsibility to the communities they exploit. These same companies rarely support domestic businesses unless it is a parasitic relationship. Their demise will allow for new blood to surface.
It appears the government and the media think all of the American people are asleep while they try to convince the public that they have created new jobs over the last 6 to 8 months. Yes, there were few new temporary jobs created in November and December, for the Christmas season only. These jobs all ended the first of the year.
Then the biggest scam of all is when unemployed people come off the unemployment rolls and the government touts that unemployment is down, knowing these people have not found jobs. How can they find jobs when the jobs have left the country. These are jobs which will never return to this country again. There surely have not been any sizeable new industries created over the last two years. So, please show us these new jobs.
By the way, I left my home country; the USA because of all the above mentioned reasons. I had to do this to survive. I am one of those who did everything right. Got my education, started a small business without the help of SBA, not because I did not seek their help. I did not seek any loans, i just wanted their help securing government contracts. They had personal on staff to provide this service of which they refused.
I managed to own for several years a couple of nice homes of which I lost to foreclosure because of the games the banks were playing.
I mostly blame the banks and wall street for bringing down America. It was not just due to the predatory loans. The banks stopped lending even after they received their bail out (Tarp) money. This made it impossible for people like myself to sell our homes or refinance our homes. Rather these banks refused to make the modifications. Instead they forced us into foreclosure and gave these properties away for pennies on the dollar.
One of my homes had been appraised for over a million dollars. I owed less than $500,000 on my home. Chase sold my home for $385,000. Had my home been sold for the 30 to 40% supposed loss in value, it would have sold between $600,000 to 800,000. This means, the bank should have given me some money. Instead, they gave my home away.
I bet they were able to go back to the government to make up the difference. Their actions make me wonder what their shareholders thought about this. We have not heard anything from them so, I have to guess they all made some big bucks off this scam. The silence in Washington also makes me think, our government was in on it as well. Rather than anyone in Washington raising the question of an issue of a possible crime. Instead we have Washington and the media having their spin doctors going to work on laying the fault on the consumers. Stating we should not have had our homes in the first place. We just had loans we could not afford. Nothing is mentioned about those of us who had our homes in some cases for tens of years.
Nothing is stated about all the jobs lost and people who were put in a situation of not being able to pay their mortgages. Not noting all the small businesses and companies going out of business and these owners just like their employees were no longer being able to get loans to keep their doors open. So they too lost their homes.
" moving away from a strategy of increasing openness and connection to the West and toward one of greater self-reliance and tighter internal controls." ~ This will ultimately backfire on them in this modern age, though it may take some time. As the older leaders die off and younger, fresher minds take over, things will change for the better.
Just heard Spitzer and Coulter talk over each other for almost 10 minutes. They were in the impossible position of trying to be intelligent while being interrupted and attacked. Here's a change in format that would better fit GPS. Give each speaker two minutes to present their position, after each has spoken give them another two minutes to further elucidate, give each a last minute to summarize both sides of the debate. Only one rule: each gets their full time uninterrupted and if the other interrupts for any reason the initial speaker gets an added minute of time (the minute could be taken away from the interrupting speaker's time). I'd love seeing your speakers being responsible for their positions and the sense they make of the conversation rather than speaking over each other and accomplishing little. Fareed gets to set the subject matter and referee the conversation rather than competing for his time, too.
Truly enjoy your shows but when guests speak over each other and it becomes impossible to follow the conversation, the mute button is pressed. Ann Coulter as one of YOUR guests??? Give me a break!!!
I like GPS because your round-table guests usually do not talk over each other. Todays show was a sad exception – each of your guests had something interesting to say, but several of them could not stop themselves from speaking while someone else was speaking.
Who is this "Maersk"? Why can't you Chinese use your real names when commenting? C'mon, or are you trying to give the impression you are westerners. For gods sake, if that is true, that is ridiculous in itself, and to think you can comment here without a rod up your ass is unbelievable. Well, at least that keeps you straight, and maybe thats good for a country that size that is trying to usurp more land from its neighbors
Go to hell!
The way you have been commenting here "Brian" seems you are living in one. The crap you have been spewing here is what the world heard from the Nazis. Your comment – "Don't you know that most Asia (land and sea) belong to us" reflects how F..ng dangerous you dudes really are. Someone has to sort you guys out, and someone will sooner than you think
I have watched and enjoyed your show from day one . When you announced Ann Coulter as a guest on the show, I turned it off. Not that I won't give her a chance to speak ........she has spoken loud and clear for over 10 years in host of media and is simply a nut. She has no place in a serious conversation , which is the hallmark of your show. I'll return when she doesn't.
Ernie Averett
Oxford NC 919-693-9915
LOL at Fareed's latest commentary on China. He actually believes anything they say??? The Shangri La conference was a public spectacle for China, a chance to buff their image ahead of a LAND GRAB in the Spratley Islands in their bullying search for cheap oil. Vietnam and the Phillipines didn't believe China's "peaceful words" They ordered more Russian subs! Live fire exercises are coming and China's naval harrassment of Vietnamese fishermen will be answered. War? It's GETTING TENSER OVER THERE, Fareed, not "more peaceful"!!
The china allegations of claiming the spratly as historical base point of view then its absurd! They must coherent with the international law.
What about the US and the three illegal wars then? That does not coespond with international laws. Can't the US government, and the ignorants in the US, ex:u mind their own business first???? Before going of on another country?
US Way=/= International way, otherwise we have WWIII, you know "shot first, ask later."
&&& With nuclear.....the world will be ran by cockroaches!!!!!!!! Bow down to the bug of all bugs.
Those islands are part of China, check the maps published by Philippine or Vietnam or USA or whatever countries before 1970's and you will get it. All issues actually are about oil.
Why USA in now, where are they five years ago? Because they could not imagine China's fastgoing developement and regret they waste too much on the wars aginst Serbs, Iraqs, Afganistan and not willing to spend too much on Europe's war aginst Lybia, USA think now with this issue they can drag China a little back and maintain their role of the only super power in the world longer.
I am a loyal weekly follower of the GPS program. Please do not invite Ann Coulter to future GPS shows. Ann is not an interesting guest to listen to. She interupts other guests and insults the American viewer with her elitist views. She poorly represents the Conservatives because her demeanor is so compative and unlikeable. Her she lacks any tangible
values.
In early 2000s, Chinese purchased in Ukraine ex-Soviet aircraft carrier "Varyag" (not completely built and equipped at that time) to use it supposedly as off-shore casino. And you know what, it looks llike it will be eventually the first Chinese aircraft carrier...
So, what is your point?
You are disappointed that there is no casino for you? Come on, my friend, go to Macau, there are plenty of them there. LOL.
hey Long, brother China, i am sure that your China will be No.1 country soon in term of lying and aggression...congratulation^^
China is a loving, peace full country?
Here is her action on murder unarmored Vietnamese people in Spratly Island March 14, 1988. China murder 64 unarmored Vietnamese men and sink 2 Vietnam unarm transport ships to gain some control over Spartly Islands. Most of the people in this world didn't know about this China murder unarm men. China is the land of cowers. I am sorry if I offended any Chinese, but this is true.
Here is the link to youtube vid.
This is the reality, either the Chinese people never get to see, or they just don't give a damn (which makes them complicit)
Hi, Minh,
You call this a proof? That's pretty silly. That's just some propaganda used by the government or some stupid kids. Chinese can make thousands of this to shame Vietnam.
Don't be so naive, boy.
Keep earning that 5 Mao, "Michael"....
Oh, I forgot: LOL!
Mike
Then you proof to the world this is not true, can you proof son?, I can find the original tape in you tube if you like.
Mike,
Here is the original footage speak in Chinese, made by China Gov, I hope you understand the language and translate to us all. Now can you proof this is Vietnamese propaganda video? This video proof China Gov murder unarmed Vietnamese, what a cower government Chinese have. The history conflicts between Vietnam and China, is that China only attack when they out numbers their opponent 20-1, out numbers 10-1 China observe the situation, out number 5-1 China retreat. This video not only show China out numbers but also out guns the unarmed Vietnamese.
Hope this evil nation America goes bankrupt and fall to pieces. The lord God almighty will take care of this evil nation America.
They have the internet in Westboro? LOL!
I know a lot about China. I can see it from my back yard. If I get to be president, then I will make america just as great as China.
NO BODY CARE ABOUT CHINA WHEN SHE WAS SO POOR, in FAMINE AND POISONED BY THE OPIUM BROUGHT FROM THE WEST THEY REALLY SUFFERED THROUGHOUT THE 30S, 40S, 50S, 60S,70S, AND JUST PICKED UP IN 80S. I READ SOME OF THE HISTORY TEXTS NOW THEY TRY TO LIVE A BIT BETTER AND WHY THE WORLD STILL CRITISIZES THAT COUNTRY CONSTANTLY (not CNN), I AM AN OBSERVER AND I LOVE PEACE JUST WANT EVERYONE TO LIVE AND HAPPY.
ONE OF MY FRIENDS IS A MILLIONAR WHO HAS SO MUCH PROBLEMS – WEARING EXPENSIVE CLOTHES 4X4 BIG CAR AND A MAID AT HOME etc., she seems not that happy evenwith a husband. But another friend of mine she is quite happy lives extremely simple grows her own vegetables, makes her own clothes, do DIY at home and not even use a car but she always looks content. I believe we do not need a lot to live and we donot have to fear about poverty or desire for super power harmony with our neighbours is vital and vote for no violence let war has a break!!
America has been through a revolution, civil war, WWI, great depression,www2, and a cold war. If the chinese had the ambition to start a conflict, America would be more then ready. Every Communist nation has fallen and it wont be long until its people see they have rights to what they want and need.
God bless this country and all who protects it.
Also, please tell the governments you donot want the GAPS BETWEEN THE POOR AND THE RICH TOO WIDE OR BIG...
ALSO TO QUESTION WHY THE BANKERS OR THE TOP DIRECTORS WHO ARE ALWAYS GET THE FATTEST CAT SALARIES.
CHINESE GOVERNMETS NEED TO GIVE EVENLY TO THE CHINESE PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU LEADERS TAKE TOO MUCH ..
FINALLY, DONOT WORRY ABOUT WHO IS SUPER POWER AND ALL THESE FIGHTINGS AMONG DIFFERENT NATIONALITIES, AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ALL HUMAN BEINGS WE WANT OUR OWN RIGHTS FROM THIS PLANET I.E. NO ONE SHOULD BE TREATED LESS, SO LONG AS MORE PEOPLE ARE NOT IN STARVING IS A GOOD THING
China=Peace
USA=War
China=peace? Have you ever read the history of china? Don't say such a ridiculous thing when you know nothing.
After all,China ismore peaceful than US.
CHINA
Hello, I am a man. I'm from China now is the Internet in China. I want to know how you American Chinese. I will not English, I was talking to the translation tools. In fact in the Chinese history, Taiwan and Tibet region has been China's territory is. This is undeniable. A lot of people misunderstood China, I don't want to go to excuses, actually a lot of Chinese people never understand China, China in history many ignoble one page. That year, we resist generation also don't understand. Japan killing one million people, implements the China, this is genocide my grandfather happened to kill, the Chinese people, our China no invasion of the communist party of China, India is now a ruling, we see pour thing, was almost upside down a lot. But as a Chinese, I more hope to see the voice of the world, the Chinese are not rich, also not superpower, and you did not see our domestic chaos, be hollowed is too much, so many americans think that China is the largest potential dangerous????
Yes, China is a super power. The common people may not feel or know this but your government has the power to threaten anyone, even the U.S. When you say you hope to see the voice of the world, That wouldn't be possible because your government cracks down on any type of free will.As an American i do fear china not because of military strength but because you control the global economy. If China where to stop all export it would send the world into a great depression like no one has ever seen before and the chinese would be able to self sustain for many years with the population and market from with-in. We as the world could be at the brink of war at anytime but it the peoples job to make sure this doesn't happen.
Sadly, if the world can spend less money on WEAPONS AND BOMBS they have a lot of money to help the people to do businesses or train the young people to fill in so many jobs like health professionals and eco- business which are in demanding not just the production sides as we do not need to buy a car every year or a shoes every day!!!
Luckily for the American, the Chinese at that did not have the paper big enough to draw american continent, otherwise, they will now fight uncle Sam to take back their Indian land! This is the same to Tibet, Mongolia....
I, as a Chinese American or Chinese, or is there, or standing in the right side. Many with a conscience, I still like and American exchanges history and thinking, my mailbox is China's, be able to know American netizens is also my pleasure, my email address is 285525575 @qq.com
As a chinese ,I hope china to get a political reform to let china more strongger!.And improve the life of its countrymen.
Your political reform will never happen because your government if communist.
Please look at what the democracy done to the US. Every government system have flaws, your comment only shows that you been blinded by your government, red scare and all that. So go visit and then comment......or at least google, if all you can do is focus on the last fifty, you're missing out on 100X of history, there's 5000 years, stop being stuck in the 50s.
Unless the text changes and China INCs view of what is its homeland, as the Nazi did, are someone elses the course set will end in the usual devastation of humanity.
According to the British author Martin Jacques, China will soon rule the world.
The only problem is that Martin Jacques does not seem to know much about economics. He seems to think that it may take another 30 years before China is ready to rule the world.
However, the truth is that, according to most competent economists, China already has the largest economy in the world.
By all accounts, the real GDP of China, taking into account the real purchasing power parity of the Chinese yuan, the real GDP of China is probably worth the equivalent of 27 trillion dollars already.
The real GDP of China is probably 2 times bigger than the GDP of the US already.
Therefore, China is already poised to rule the world now.
There is no need to wait another 30 years as suggested by Martin Jacques in his book.
see http://asians-against-racism.socialgo.com/forum/topic/43
HI, I AM SURE NOT ALL COUNTRY LIKE TO RULE THE WORLD ESPECAILLY CHINA THAT WILL BE THE LAST THAT THEY LIKE TO RULE THE WORLD THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THEIR PEOPLE CAN LIVE BETTER AND PEACE TO MY KNOWLEDGE. SO STOP ALL THIS RUMOUR I DO NOT SEEM TO SEE WE TALK MUCH ABOUT RUSSIA OR INDIA???
rule the world! for what? for nuclear war? Then you can rule people and yourself in hell only!
And only if the Satan loves you for your mighty money economy!
I have been concerned about the how the United States think about China.
We China has a history of 5000 years.
We are not a superpower. The more not seek a world hegemony.
If you are in China.
You will find.
Every country has a very good person. We are more like is peace.
China has not free report. We China's many people admire you American freedom of speech
And we human being also has a history of a few million year or at least 50.000 years of history using stone for war. What has history of civilization of 5000 years to do with how aggressive and greedy of your leaders now?
作为中国人.
我要告诉全世界.
我们没有侵略过印度.
你们如果了解我们的历史文化.
你就知道中国人根本不会寻求世界霸权.
中国.一个有善良心的民族.
清朝末年.中国遭受了八国联军的侵略.
那时候的八个国家就包括你们美国.还有法国.等等.
后来.
我们又被日本实施种族灭绝.
对中国进行殖民统治.
杀害中国同胞百万.机枪屠杀.
这是历史的铁证.烧杀抢掠.奸淫中国妇女.
中国红军二万五千里长征.
没有任何东西吃. 吃树皮.草根.喝马尿.
冻死的冻死.饿死的饿死.
换来了今天的中国人民共和国.
我们的爷爷就是历史的见证.
作为中国人.我们痛恨的历史.
华夏5000年的历史写上了不光彩的一页.
台湾自古是中国的领土.
因为美国的朋友根本不了解中国的历史.
现在越南又说南沙群岛是他们的.
中国人忍气吞声.在种种证据面前居然还说南沙群岛是他们的.
当年我们援助他们.不加任何政治条件的帮助换来今天的结果.
他们的历史到底教会了他们什么东西.
我顶楼上
A: I'm Chinese.
I want to tell the world.
We don't have invaded India.
If you know the history of our culture.
You will know that the Chinese will not seek world hegemony.
China. Have a good heart.
The end of the qing dynasty. China has suffered the g8 invasion.
Eight countries, including Britain and France. The United States. And so on.
After that.
Japan to the implementation of China's genocide.
In China they colonial rule.
Chinese compatriots 1 million death. With machine guns massacre.
This is the historical evidence. They looted. Women who commit adultery.
Long march is China-
Do not have anything to eat. Eating bark. Drink urine horse.
Cold dead. Die of hunger starve to death.
Today, the Chinese People's Republic of China.
Our grandfather is the witness of history.
Because I am a Chinese. We hate these history.
5000 years of Chinese history written ignoble one page.
Taiwan is part of China's territory since ancient times.
Because America's friends don't know Chinese history.
Now Vietnam said the spratly islands are they.
Before the Chinese people suffer indignities without protest. Incredibly also said the evidence the spratly islands are they.
That year us aid them. Do not add any political condition results help today.
Their history teaching them what it was.
Most countries have it up and down thru their histories.
When you are strong you are likely a trouble maker. When you are weak you get shit from the stronger guy.
I wish that is not the way but it has been this way thru out the World history. Period!.
A: I'm Chinese.
I want to tell the world : and my self.
We don't have invaded India : but tibet, mongolia and VN not long ago.
If you know the history of our culture.
You will know that the Chinese will not seek world hegemony: but will seek world domination.
China. Have a good heart but not our leaders.
The end of the qing dynasty. China has suffered the g8 invasion : because of western greeds.
Eight countries, including Britain and France. The United States. And so on.
After that.
Japan to the implementation of China's genocide.
In China they colonial rule because of our karma.
Chinese compatriots 1 million death. With machine guns massacre: in culture revolution.
This is the historical evidence. They looted. Women who commit adultery.
Long march is China-
Do not have anything to eat. Eating bark. Drink urine horse.
Cold dead. Die of hunger starve to death.
Today, the Chinese People's Republic of China.
Our grandfather is the witness of history.
Because I am a Chinese. We hate these history: and want revenge.
5000 years of Chinese history written ignoble one page.
Taiwan is part of China's territory since ancient times: but Chiang Kai-shek took it.
Because America's friends don't know Chinese history: oops!
Now Vietnam said the spratly islands are they : same I said.
Before the Chinese people suffer indignities without protest. Incredibly also said the evidence the spratly islands are they: so the Vietnamese.
That year us aid them. Do not add any political condition results help today: but communist expansion and kill millions.
Their history teaching them what it was: you and me:died!
China has always sought hegemony where it could. History has shown that time and again. The idea that China has never been a conqueror is a myth.
Han Wudi. Tang Taizong. Zhu Yuanzhang. Conquerors and land grabbers all.
Human being is destroying themself and creating wars with: "my own interest", "my ideology", "my country", "my thinking", my "God", and "me", "me" and "me"...nothing more is worth to say. Good night!
Wow, Can i ask any chinese person why haven't you spoken up and try to have participation in your government? Why did your government side with communist Korea when they attacked republic Korea? Where is all the money going that you work so hard for and only getting 4 dollars ( in us terms)?
China always a threat to local country like Vietnam over the pass 5000 years. China face a lot of humiliation defeats when conquer Vietnam. Every time China invaded Vietnam they got their a$$ kick and send back to China.
BTW China is named by the West. So does this mean China belong to West? Spartly Island belong to Vietnam for hundreds if not thousand of year, so stay out of South East Asia Seas chinks!!!!!
Sounds pretty paranoid and pathetic. Dirty words don't make you powerful.
Unfortunately those islands belong to China and will be Chinese no matter what you say here.
Just like no matter whether you like or hate Chinese, your Vietnam language and culture has a significant part from China.
Nonsense. China's thinking is exactly the same as American thinking for the past 70 years. It is the thinking of all Great Powers.
Will they be the thinking like America or like Germany,Japan? Will they try to conquer or will they be a helping hand? Are they a threat to America's future?
The PRC believes in peace and stability and they'll crack as many Tibetan and Uygher heads as necessary to do it. And threaten Taiwan with war by pointing 1800 missiles at them. And they'll need resources to keep things peaceful and stable, so they're sending warships to the Spratlys to harass and fend off the Filipinos and the Vietnamese.
Peace and stability!
Dead China = Peace
So you wanted peace then wipe China off the map
Hi, I know you are Vietnamese by your name. What is so interested in to me is that wny cannot you be peace with other nations (especially China) and people?? As Vietnam had been on war for a long time do you want more war(s)?? It is about time to grow up and live with your neighbour(s) with peace. Just for a few people like you can cause more sufferings for others..think about it!
india shabi
This message is not related to this article. However, China is supporting Myanmar terrible military to colonize minorities without justice. China is a scam. Terrible China. Go to hell China. China is helping Myanmar military. Myanmar military is evil. China is evil. God bless Kachin people and Kachin Land.
What a american way to look at the world(and China). Just little bit egocentric?! I specialy like this one:"American has maintained a basic strategy of trying to integrate China into the world." ROFL. When does US done anything that is NOT in their own best interest. With all the good side of USofA,been good to others is not one of them.
previous post by:Chinese American
"I'm Chinese American, and went back to China to experience Life here, working in Beijing. I have to say, i hate China, and Tony, you're a fucking idiot. The country is a piece of shit, got it? Get that into your mind so this country can actually improve. Most people want to get the hell out of here, why don't you come here and talk to my Chinese friends, not sure if you're even from China, you sound like you're talking out of your ass.
So do us all Chinese and ABCS favor and tell the truth, the country and culture of China is a piece of shit."
Thanks for telling it like it is! China truly sucks!!!
As a Chinese, I must study hard construction my country, in order to repay the feeling of the cultivation of the country!
Oh please, censorship is needed to maintain national unity and put down dissent. That's all there is to it. For Americans, everything is a slippery slope to Big Brother. In China as long as the economy keeps growing, people have no complaints.
There is a HOPE for China because they donot want to stay as old communist horrible policy ...They Are Changing otherwise their people will not be happy...I believe.
On whose course? China will only stay on her own course, and become stronger and stronger in her own way. Why Sinophobia, because the west would not like to see a prosperous stronger China, because now only China may potentially have the ability to surpass the west and stop their at will crusade like actions, because some China neighboring countries did and are now doing something in the wrong against China, they are afraid of being revenged (BUZUOKUIXINSHI, BUPAGUIQIAOMEN).
CNN, Fareed Zakaria, stop your biase and make investigation first before you post, you can now try in China with http://www.baidu.com as what now I am doing, neither Jasmine nor Jasmine flower is banned, Chinese people just want a better life and live in peace, if you are trying to stop this, we have a song here for you: our friends will be welcomed with fine wine, and gangsters can only receive bullets – a song popular since the Anti-USA-help-Korea war.
There are many presumptions, justmental statements and even dengerous believes that somethings, in fact are not true at all ( only the tips of the iceberg) in this world!! Positive is always better than negatives but it is the jelousy towards others that causing many wars and conflicts ....
You are all mislead by the American medias and country,just like the CNN,sine 1949,China never invaded any other country,on the other hand, American has invaded many country,Vietnam, Korea, Irak, Afghanistan etc,you have no right and no reason to accuse Chinese.
When you blame the others,reflect yourself at fist.
The question frames a binary response, but we are Chinese will do both. Adopt turning inward where it's beneficial to China and support openness enough to work with the West. Sometime it will seem contradictory but simply "close one eye". The other "Tiger" prospers but is saddled with untenable corruption and a continuing lack of infrastructure. The US still squanders it's wealth in wars in distant lands while the deteriorating economy is causing a rapid rise in social unrest inside it's borders. The Chinese are good at learning lessons. The US is not! Therefore it will listen to what is being preached to it, but just listening politely. Kissinger is right, they are doing it right so far, and I think they will continue to do so. Not bad for a country that is not a democracy.
China is not turning the Reform tap off – it might not be running, but it is still on. I met with Bo Xi-lai in January with a group of international business leaders, and he understands China is part of global business community; that the world is inter-conected, inter-dependent and integrated as never before in its history. As a Chinese leader, he wants his people to be prosperous and for his country to be a global player, as it should be with 1/4 of the world's population.
hey,guys.there's a lot of difference between chinese nation and chinese goverment.
How China respond will depend on how much the US is willing to allow a new kid on the block. Will if behave like a gangster and demand protection money or welcome him and treat him real neighbor like. I don't forsee a race of imperialistic mentality like the US changing their ways.
First and formost, USA has lost it's leadership credibility because of the recent debt default roadshow
put up by the Republican Congress. I daresay people around the world, particularly in Asia, now have nothing but negative thoughts about America. But not about ordinary Americans. It's your politicians. Bnd besides the Republican's recent clown act that almost caused a sensation global financial meltdown, now you have a Tea Party. What's this for? Make more mess of what is already a circus politics in USA? So, if you are an American holidaying in Asia or any emerging country – please dont say you are American unless you are asked. You know what I mean. However, in saying this please understand that we all love America for its innovativeness, dynamism and even generosity. But this love is fading fast ....
The information presented in the article proves that MR.Zakaria THINK only what americans think, and SPEAK what only americans want to hear! WELL DONE, ZAK..
The biggest influence the United States can have on China is by permitting ordinary Chinese citizens to visit the United States visa free. The experience of a free country to the ordinary Chinese citizens will have profound effect on future generations and eventually a free China.
But, is that something the United States willing to do considering some of those Chinese citizens that come to visit will decide not to go home? It's this conflict of interest that we choose a communist China over a free China.
Usually I do not learn article on blogs, but I wish to say that this write-up very forced me to try and do so! Your writing taste has been surprised me. Thanks, quite great article.
I didn't read the replies closely enough and missed you giving the credit. What I had been referring to was not someone trying to claim it as their own, simply that the original post stated "Someone had uploaded the song to listen to,", but not citing who, and in my state of lack of sleep, I didn't notice in your link saying who the someone was:)
I have green eyes and wear contacts. I had my first episode about 10 years ago. My flashes are not colorful and are sometime accompanied by small blindspots here and there. I try to close my eyes, but it doesn't stop. There's no getting away from it. They started off lasting 5 minutes and now last about 30. After they are over, they leave me feeling wiped out, and I get a small headache. By the way, I'm 40 and can count how many headaches I've ever gotten. As I get older, I'm getting them a bit more often. I used to have a visual migraine about once a year, now it's about 4 times a year. When I first experienced it, I thought it had to do with a detatched retina. Scared me to death. I went to the doctors and was immediately sent to an opthamologist. They could find anything. I was then sent immediately to the hospital for a cat scan which ended up being a terrible experience as I learned I am allergic to the contrast dye, conray. I almost died waiting for the resident to stick the needle full of benadryl back in my vein. Unfortunately, I was unable to finish the cat scan. Finally, they diagnosed me with visual migraines. Never knew there was such a thing! My grandmother and mother suffer from the traditional headache migraines. I had a hard time believing that's what it was and thought they just wanted to label it for my sanity. I've never come across anyone who has experienced them until now. So glad I can show people an idea of what I see. I'm tired of describing it as the watery glass-like image that the police robot takes on in the movie, The Terminator.Will I get over them? I know most women stop having headache migraines when they go through menopause. Are we having miny strokes in the brain?
Interesting article. It's actually very informative and answer my problems.
I'm confused, You say we are historically brainwashed? We are taught in the classroom what the government mandates,yes. Now i can go on my computer and look up ever little detail about my government and what it has done wrong and how corrupt it has got. Chinese have a regulated web and books? You don't have the freedom to learn how others see you country or how it looked to the world. Then you say."Let you look at what the United States is Chinese.
Let you know what the United States is China's army. Please remember CHINA. Even if the China's die not. " I am confused if your English is off or i am miss translating it.