What's wrong with eating dog meat?
A Chinese animal lover consoles a dog after a convoy of trucks carrying some 500 dogs to be sold as meat, were stopped along a highway in Beijing on early April 17, 2011, and the dogs were later rescued to the China Animal Protection Association. There were about 58 million pet dogs in 20 major Chinese cities at the end of 2009 and the figure is rising about 30 percent each year, according to a survey, as pet owners in China spend an estimated two billion USD a year on their animals.
June 30th, 2011
02:05 PM ET

What's wrong with eating dog meat?

By , Global Post

Barbecued dog and steamed paws?

These and so much more were to be had at this weekend's dog meat festival near Seoul.

Alas, it was not to be.

Animal rights activists put up such a stink that the organizers, from the Korea Dog Farmers' Association, said there was no way they could go through with the event.

"We couldn't possibly go on with the plan due to endless phone calls of complaint ... now there are few willing to rent us a place for the event," Ann Yong-Geun, a professor of nutrition at Chung Cheong University and an advisor to the association, told AFP.

Organizers of the festival had wanted to showcase the positive side of the dog meat industry in South Korea, where there are about 600 farms that raise dogs for meat, according to Ann.

Dog soup, or Boshintang, is a summer delicacy in South Korea, though the Wall Street Journal reports that it isn't as popular as the media would make it seem.

A minority of people eat it regularly. It’s consumed most frequently in summer but is available year-round. And it’s more popular with men than women and is said to possess qualities that "help stamina."

They were, for example, going to show videos of farms raising dogs under sanitary conditions — something, they will tell you, that would become a more ubiquitous practice were the industry legalized and regulated.

But for many activists, the humane treatment of the dogs is beside the point. To them, dogs are companions not a main course, end of story.

Read: North Korean propaganda.

The irony is that in South Korea, that wasn't really true until more recently. And even now, it's really only true in the city, where they raise "pet dogs," as opposed to "meat dogs."

As William Saletan wrote in Slate a few years back:

In the country, they raise "meat dogs," also known as "junk dogs" and "lower-grade" dogs. But you don't become a "lower-grade" dog by flunking an IQ test. You're just born in the wrong place. Then you're slaughtered and fed to a man who thinks he's humane because he pampers a Golden Retriever that has half your brains.

So, what's really wrong with eating dog? Just because we don't do it in the U.S. doesn't seem to make for a very good argument.

GlobalPost's Dog Meat Mafia series, delves into the seedy world of the booming dog meat industry in Southeast Asia.

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  1. M

    Some of these comments are the most ignorant statements I've read throughout my life. Cultures vary from place to place. Americans might not understand the moral concept of eating another living creature that for most Americans consider a family member. Asians might not understand why Americans would want to adopt their meal into their family. At the end of the day...you just have to agree to disagree. Although, I will say this...I read in another article that some place in asia is using human feces to make synthetic meat...gross. I'll stick to being a vegetarian.

    July 3, 2011 at 5:25 pm | Reply
  2. 4mula1

    we did NOT evolve as carnivores, VEGAN BY DESIGN..its the meat n dairy (milk is for baby cows get.soymilk) that lead to heart attack, stroke, pad, ed, ect.. (pcrm.org) the arteries become as hard and brittle as the stem of a clay pipe. they are so full of calcium they are more like rocks than blood vessels. cutting them with a scissor at autopsy makes a distinct crunching sound. this blockage also occures in the arteries to the brain. when they close off, part of the brain dies, a stroke. any meijer, kroger, walmart, HAS vegan burgers, hot dogs, tofu dogs, and deserts. as for charities, MRMCMED.ORG then humaneseal.org, hope 2 see u at the track (f1.com).

    July 3, 2011 at 5:33 pm | Reply
    • Jimbo

      Seriously? Why do human beings have INCISORS, teeth that are designed to strip flesh from the bone? If we were vegan by design, we'd have a mouth full of molars, like cows and horses, who are vegan by design. Seriously, give your head a shake and take a high school biology class rather than trying to shove you PETA-loving BS down our throats. Here's a website to educate you:

      http://www.petakillsanimals.com

      July 3, 2011 at 6:16 pm | Reply
      • 4mula1

        when i need a good LOL i will be sure to read your message over and over, r u DRUNK?....... what does peta have to do with MRMCMED.ORG HUMANESEAL.ORG PCRM.ORG ect?............ just as auto companys have NOTHING to do with each other animal groups are no different. you took biology? how forgetfull can you get... the long, intricate, winding, human digestive tract is ILL SUITED to digesting and expelling flesh food which is QUICKLY decomposed. among many other PHYSIOLOGICAL differences. we have NO claws for tearing flesh. and, our weak JAWS and POINTED CANINE TEETH bear NO resemblance to those of carnivores.. ok, now you crawl back into your little cave. oh by the way.. do you STILL believe the world is flat?

        July 12, 2011 at 3:45 pm |
  3. ummok

    American's eating beef is seen as downright disgusting and immoral in the eyes of hindu people whom view cattle as sacred. Is this different from us seeing eating dog as morally inhumane? Don't think so. There's always another side. People are just ignorant when it comes to other cultures.

    July 3, 2011 at 5:51 pm | Reply
    • Tina

      No animal brutally is not a part of anyones culture. The dogs are tortured, yes tortured in horrid conditions! That is not culture and a lot of asians do not believe in eating dog meat or have any part of it.

      July 3, 2011 at 6:55 pm | Reply
    • Corbijn

      Having an animal that is considered sacred for religious reasons and a domesticated animal humans have co-existed since anyone can know are two different things. I admit that if I had to slaughter my own animals for food I'd probably never get past a fish.

      July 3, 2011 at 7:15 pm | Reply
  4. Jimbo

    Well, we westerners don't eat dogs and cats because they're "cute". Yet we have no problem eating "less cute" mammals like pigs and cows. Personally, I think we should take animals that are due to be euthanized and butcher them to feed prisoners and the poor. Meat is meat, regardless of which animal it came from, and beggars can't be choosers. Waste not, want not, and all that jazz.

    July 3, 2011 at 6:10 pm | Reply
    • Tina

      Why feed meat to the prisoners and poor. Why teach them about cruelty. You can get plenty of protein from seeds, nuts, grains, fruits and vegetables. A vegetarian diet is way healthier than a meat based diet. No heart disease, stroke, diabetes, arthritis.. the list goes on and on. Protein from meat is difficult to digest. That is why there is such an epidemic of disease in Western society! And all the diseased coming from commercialized animal farms. Swine flu, Mad cow disease, E-coli, bird flu. ....the list goes on and on.

      July 3, 2011 at 6:48 pm | Reply
      • Wasabiwahabi

        "No heart disease, stroke, diabetes, arthritis...." Come now, Tina. there are lots of vegetarians who get these diseases. E. coli is an enteric that dwells in every human, and is typically transferred from fecal matter the treatment of vegetables. Mad Cow is an import from England, though Kruetzfeld-Jakob (look it up) has nothing to do with diet. Being mammals, humans are very good at digesting protein.Lactation has been the hallmark of mammalian survival and evolution. Please try to be as educated as you are passionate, and in that way you might just sound as if you know about what you are talking. The swine flue and bird flu come from Asia, not the West. The list of your stupidity goes on and on and on..,

        July 3, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
      • 4mula1

        you tell em tina. ole jimbo just dont wanna listen. like they say, some folkes you jus cant reach.

        July 12, 2011 at 4:10 pm |
  5. Buddy

    Greenpeace can go to he11 as far as I'm concerned. Did you know that they singlehandedly murdered millions in African nations (through starvation) by convincing the leaders of those nations that using genetically altered grain to feed their people was like feeding them poison? Activists like this are insensitive slaves to a badly-flawed mindset.

    July 3, 2011 at 6:16 pm | Reply
  6. Corbijn

    What's wrong with this, where to start? Dogs are domesticated. Ever get into the psychology of a dog? Dogs generally understand people better than people understand people. It's not a dependency thing, its a real connection. Dogs are beyond a companion animal, they've been the main work animal alongside a horse. That means our existence is co-dependent on many levels. Some can say that people domesticated dogs but dogs also domesticated people back. For some reason I can excuse people who hurt other people but I can't excuse someone who hurts a dog.

    July 3, 2011 at 7:08 pm | Reply
  7. John Trainor

    Some calloused people commenting here! Dogs are not called man's best friend for nothing. Their loyalty to man is beyond compare and to think some of you excuse this cruel practice of killing these most affectionate and loyal of animals!

    The intelligence displayed by many cannines approaches so closely to human intelligence that it is a mystery. They manifest sympathy and tenderness toward their companions in suffering. They show an affection for those who have charge of them, far superior to the affection shown by some of the human race. They form attachments for man which are not broken without great suffering to them.

    What man with a human heart, who has ever cared for a mans' best friend, could look into their eyes, so full of confidence and affection, and willingly give them over to the butcher's knife? How could he devour their flesh as a sweet morsel?

    July 3, 2011 at 7:11 pm | Reply
  8. LadyBane

    Four million cats and dogs are put to sleep in US shelters every year. Before complaining about about a foreign country's dietary habits we should correct our own treatment of animals and problems with animal over population. Shelter animals in the US are euthanized and disposed of. At least the animals in South Korea are being used to feed a populace.

    July 3, 2011 at 7:26 pm | Reply
    • GiggityGoo

      Hmmm, I don't think being humanely put to sleep = being tortured to death. Falling asleep seems preferable to being cooked alive or having skin ripped off so some lunatic can capture a soul to help his little weenie.

      July 3, 2011 at 8:12 pm | Reply
  9. kerryblue

    watch these videos and then tell me if it makes you laugh:

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    July 3, 2011 at 7:29 pm | Reply
  10. fixamerica

    I will eat your dog too. Meat is meat! so, hide your little princess chiwawa before I barbecue it on July 4th.

    July 3, 2011 at 7:41 pm | Reply
  11. Morrigan (Druid) (Mrs) Conway-Mucha

    Burnt, We Humans Smell As Pig. In certain cultures WE, Humans were eaten as we now eat PIG
    Is One still as an animal or are we not evolving toward Enlightenment?
    Does one still eat PIG, or as a Human, is one at that level of development?

    Spiritual Development is to develop past an ANIMAL then to protect The Innocent (The Animals), whatever your faith,
    Remember: By One's Actions One Is Judged Thus Is The Prayer. /|\)0(

    July 3, 2011 at 7:56 pm | Reply
  12. Tina

    @Wasabiwahabi. Uneducated? I work in the Hospital ER unit? Do you know how many obese people pass through the unit on a daily basis. Never met anyone who is a vegan with arteriocsclerosis! or Atherosclerosis! It would be a good idea if you educate yourself about the saturated fat in meat and how it affects the arteries??? Read it up and educate yourself. Better yet go down and visit the ER Unit of your local hospital and see for yourself how people are suffering. Educated yourself by reading how meat is difficult on the human digestion, there is no fiber and leads to many health problems from heart disease, constipation, hemorrhoids, and cancer ( plenty of antibiotics and steriods in meat).

    July 3, 2011 at 8:02 pm | Reply
    • Wasabiwahabi

      Who is the nitwit who refereed to E. coli as a disease?
      Who said swine flu was of Western origin?
      Who said bird flu was of Western origin?
      Who – and this is the tragic one – said that "NO" vegetarians get diabetes?
      Who said that "NO" vegetarians get arthritis?
      Who said that "NO" vegetarians get heart disease?
      I think it was Tina. Yes, it was Tina?
      I used to work in an ER and transferred to the O.R. (No kidding.) Tell me, Tina, in what capacity do work in the ER?
      In what medical school or school of Allied Health Professions did you learn that a vegetarian diet precludes diabetes? Come to think of it, you seem to be the only one I have heard that claims to have both the source and the CURE for diabetes! Do you realize how dangerous passing off a vegetarian diet as medical advice is? So, vegetarians need not check their blood sugar? No EKG"s necessary for vegetarians? If someone took your claims seriously, you genuinely could be responsible for his or her death.

      July 3, 2011 at 9:38 pm | Reply
    • Wasabiwahabi

      "Never met anyone who is a vegan with arteriosclerosis! " My G-d, do you realize how dangerous saying this can be? Cholesterol is in every cell of the body. Even vegans die without it. Excess lipid production not stored in adipose tissue will get tucked away between the tunia media and interna. This, as any first year nurse or med school student know, will happen, yes, even in vegans, without ever having eaten so much a slice of cheese. You are scary. All obesity is not diet related. Pituitary adenoma or even low testosterone cause this every day, unfortunately.
      Years ago, and granted it was about 15 years ago, I used to work oncology. I met patients who believed they were cursed by their Creator because they never ate meat, but presented with digestive metastatic malignancies.

      July 3, 2011 at 9:50 pm | Reply
      • Tina

        AHHHHHHHH!!! There's a carnivore in the OR!

        Vampire Alert!

        All Humans regardless of race, nationality, religion, or culture should eat vegetables not dog meat.

        Signed BO (Portuguese Water Dog)

        July 4, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
    • Tina

      Please do not take my statement above seriously. Got carried away with my emotions! Meat is safe to eat and you will not get diseases from it.

      I get upset with I see cruelty to animals or people. I wish everyone would feel the same ; the world would be a better place to live.

      July 8, 2011 at 12:01 am | Reply
  13. GiggityGoo

    Dog is so primitive. Baby fetus soup and dumplings is where it's at, did anyone ever see the movie Dumplings(2004)? It's the secret for staying young .

    July 3, 2011 at 8:04 pm | Reply
  14. Meatlover

    Dog meat is very flavorful with a tenderness like lamb. Nothing wrong with EATING the meat. All the other omnivores can say the same about beef and pork.

    July 3, 2011 at 8:45 pm | Reply
  15. careworn

    @maya humans didn't breed tdogs for companionship – we bred them as hunting animals (hounds, terriers, dachsunds) and to retrieve shot birds from swamps and long grass, and as working dogs (border colly, dobermans etc.). Even the dalmatian was apparently bred to run underneath carriages to clear stray animals off the road, and apparently ,to prevent urchins hanging on underneath to get into the grounds of stately homes.

    July 3, 2011 at 8:49 pm | Reply
  16. Mindy

    Maybe we don't always breed dogs as companions but the fact is that they have evolved to become that. Dogs more than any other animal have actually evolved alongside human beings. That's why we shouldn't eat them, they are hardwired to be receptive to our love and attention and no one can deny that. I don't even want to get into what's wrong with eating factory farmed animals to begin with.

    July 3, 2011 at 9:29 pm | Reply
  17. slplssinstl

    First CNN post ever-so many comments on eating dogs compared to politics, human rights, health, etc! It's not suprising considering the fact that so many cannot separate their own emotional truths from facts, logic, and reason-the emotion evoking stories always get a rise out of people. I think I may be a genius because I can tell a LOT about each one of you by your opinions on this subject. For example, those who remark things like "dogs are easy to eat-you can get them to come to you" are evil jerks just looking for a reaction. However....

    Folks who direct their feelings to animals instead of people need to recognize that the reason you prefer animals is that people have expectations of you that animals do not. Maybe the problem is that you aren't capable of sustaining the more equitable relationships humans require and only want the unconditional sort of love that animals provide. Blondi thought Hitler was a great guy too.....just sayin' 😉

    July 3, 2011 at 9:46 pm | Reply
    • Wasabiwahabi

      Blow it our yer' self-righteous rectum. Just saying.
      The other posts have been up for nearly two weeks. How and where do you get your numbers? Just saying.

      July 3, 2011 at 10:07 pm | Reply
  18. slplssinstl

    Well, that was a logical, well expressed insightI Maybe got a little close to the bone for ya there huh? My rectum isn't self righteous at all, though. I don't understand the remark about "other posts" I was just observing that subjects like this get a lot of posts comparatively.

    July 3, 2011 at 10:38 pm | Reply
    • Wasabiwahabi

      So, then, where did you get your numbers "comparatively?" How many posts on each?

      July 3, 2011 at 11:39 pm | Reply
      • slplssinstl

        o...m...g...forgot the first rule of posting. People who cannot refute other's opinions like to direct attention to immaterial points. Too bad I rarely make spelling/grammar mistakes-you could really negate my entire point by the fact that I don't know the various meanings of "their-they're-there" or even "of" for "have" as in "I would of"... Are you by any chance a defense lawyer?

        July 4, 2011 at 11:48 am |
      • Wasabiwahabi

        You nimblick! The numbers of comparison were the substance of your post! So, what were they? You brought it up.

        July 4, 2011 at 1:35 pm |
  19. Paul Kim

    Koreans never eat their own dogs, pet dogs. It's just a very traditional culture since ancient times. They seldom eat cows since they provided the powers of the cultivation like for digging soil, turning the mills, and transportation -wagon. But dog were different. Since protein composition of dog meat is very similar to human's,they've found it is digested well and good for health. Please understand cultural background.

    July 4, 2011 at 12:43 am | Reply
    • kp

      My "meat dog" is a Jindo which is supposedly a "National Treasure"...why would a Korean want to eat a Jindo? Also, While living on Ghangwha Island I was told that the dogs are killed in a painful way so they release adrenaline. Then when the meat is consumed the adrenaline is passed on to the human eating it. This is so unscientific and not true...it's just cruel
      !

      July 4, 2011 at 10:37 am | Reply
  20. Paul Kim

    I am a Korean. Although there are many Koreans who eat the meat, the majority of Korean people don't eat. .. or never. Even those who have eaten once, they usually don't again or frequently. I've never eat the meat too. Most women do not eat the meat and dislike. Media have exaggerated it. That's power of media and often people regard a portion of the fact as a whole story.

    July 4, 2011 at 12:52 am | Reply
  21. Paul Kim

    Even in ancient times, the dog meats were not the major source of the meat. Cattle like figs, chickens, ducks, and fishes were the sources. Again dog meats were also for the special occasions (summer time) and for poor people usually lived in country sides. They loved their dogs in their houses as today we do.

    July 4, 2011 at 1:07 am | Reply
  22. DogsAreDelicious

    I think we are all fairly open minded people here. I urge everybody to try some Dog Stroganoff, its delicious. After you try it, you might even want to eat your family pet you've had for 5+ years, just because it's so good. To me it seems like the majority of the people here who are against eating dogs are those who have never tried eating a dog before. So please don't put down others who have, and are actually enjoying this fine delicacy.

    July 4, 2011 at 1:23 am | Reply
  23. Anti_Hanoi_bac_Ky

    You people are sick! Stop eating dogs damn Koreans and North Vietnamese Catholics alike! I sure hope these dog Koreans are not Christians and I do know that the Bac Ky ( north vietnamese ) eat dogs and followed the Catholics cult. How are they going to answer to Jesus when he ask them the reasons for eating dogs.

    July 4, 2011 at 2:47 am | Reply
  24. Paul

    This is what's wrong with many western cultures. What gives you the right to believe your culture is the correct one and that it must be universal. Just because you guys generally don't eat dog does that mean no one else can? To many dog might be a cheap source of meat where beef or pork may not be. They grow up eating it and see nothing wrong with it. It's just like how we grew up eating PB&J but in many eastern cultures would find it repulsive. I personally don't eat dog and don't plan to. It's a personal choice but I have nothing against people who do or find it disgusting.

    July 4, 2011 at 5:39 am | Reply
    • kp

      It's not the fact that people eat dogs it's the way they are "grown" and treated, it's completely cruel and unsterile....not only with dogs, but with many meat animals in Asian countries....and unless you've seen it you should not comment

      July 4, 2011 at 10:32 am | Reply
      • Paul

        and the way we farm chickens is more humane? Many are grown without beaks so they do not injure each other in extremely crowded conditions. They are also fed to the point they cannot walk properly. I do agree with you 100% that conditions need to be improved, but not only for dogs.

        My argument wasn't pointed towards people who are arguing about the conditions animals are raised in, but towards who are using the argument that the act of eating dog is morally wrong and disgusting just because they see them as a pet and "intelligent". FYI pigs are known to be smarter than dogs.

        July 4, 2011 at 5:10 pm |
  25. kp

    I lived in Korea for a year and bought a "meat dog" from a random house near a school I taught at. She was about 6 months old, full of worms, infected with Parvo-virus, and because she was so squished in a cage her tendons hadn't developed properly so her hind paws flexed upward. On top of that the cage was above ground so the feces and urine could flow through, but it was actually cutting the dogs paws so her's are all scarred now. The man had to trow scraps of food in the cage and shove a large stick through the cage in order to reach in and grab her and not get attacked by the 15 feral dogs. None of the dogs received real dog food, just left over scraps of human food and they all ate feces for nutrients. I was lucky that my dog lived, but she definitely would have died had I not taken her and had the knowledge to save her (I am a vet student now, but had lots of experience working with animals). By not treating them in a humane way they end up losing half of their "herd" to disease or malnurishment. This isn't just with dog meat, but also the way I saw cows treated. Left to grow in small pens until they were ready to be slaughtered. The lack of care put into their meat in some areas of South Korea and many parts of Asia has a lot to do with lack of funding and money, but it is an absolutely disgusting practice and it should be a law that is actually enforced instead of one that is ignored.

    July 4, 2011 at 10:30 am | Reply
    • spammerstakeahike

      @kp – thanks for your observation and thanks for saving the dog.

      July 4, 2011 at 12:11 pm | Reply
    • Paul

      I lived in Shanghai for 4 years and I too have seen horrible conditions of animals to live in. I totally agree that this needs to change. However, before singling out Asian countries and calling the people there "sick" look at your own country first. How do you think you get your chicken for so cheap?

      July 4, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Reply
  26. Jonathon

    Ultimately, eating dogs ismorally no different than eating a cow. In some cultures, cow are considered sacred. To them, the american practice of eating cows is ghastly. Many cultures eat dogs, and for a long time, dogs have been equated with rats. They have not been viewed as man's best friend until recently, when Western culture has started to infiltrate theirs. We should respect their cultures. One can oppose the eating of dogs just as they would oppose cows (eg. vegitarians), but there is no difference otherwise.

    July 4, 2011 at 1:29 pm | Reply
  27. Riyaz Hoosain

    If plants start screaming,shouting or bleeding will we stop eating them. What is important is that we should not waste food.

    July 4, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Reply
  28. LoVegan

    If people need so much to eat flesh, why don't they eat their own children? Because it's immoral? It's immoral to eat every living being! We don't need to eat anyone, we left our caverns centuries ago (at least, some of us did) so please don't start talking nonsense like tradition or culture. We can live without killing anyone, evolve! Humans taste like pigs, what would you think if someone ate YOU in the name of culture? Who do think you are to decide that you can live and others must die? Get a life, and a brain too

    July 4, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Reply
    • Paul

      You say traditions and culture is nonsense, yet vegan is itself a type of culture. Most people out there respect your choice to be vegan and honestly I am impressed with most people being able to be one. You tell people to "evolve", one would assume eating a wider range of foods is more favorable for survival instead of limiting yourself to only one thing, that's taking a step back. I respect your choice, how about you show a little for mine.

      July 4, 2011 at 5:36 pm | Reply
    • Paul

      Oh and anyone that has to use eating other humans are a argument is just sad. Take a few sociology and biology classes before and come up with a few real arguments to the debate. Stop making real vegans look bad.

      July 4, 2011 at 5:46 pm | Reply
      • Paul

        as a argument*

        July 4, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
  29. B. Anna

    man discovered fire, they learned that they could consume meat safely.
    If mankind were born to eat meat then why is it that we cannot eat raw meat like the lions, the tigers and the hyenas without getting sick to this day? Why is that we cannot devour the bones, the hair, or the contents of the stomach as dogs and other carnivores do without becoming very ill? Why is that we do not have teeth like the lions, tigers, hyenas, and dogs? We cannot consume raw meat and we do not have teeth as real carnivores do, therefore we are not meant to eat meat. Man evolved to teach themselves how to survive during harsh times. We are not in harsh times. We have taught ourselves agriculture, but does that mean we have to practice it without moral, regard, or respect? To think that man can take any living being and profit from it is selfish and cocky. Today people consume more meat than is needed; now they want to eat dogs too? How sad.
    If people want to eat dogs because food and money is scarce, that's their choice. I am an Asian/Pacific Islander and have a family dog. I would not in a million years eat a dog, but I would not judge others for it either. If it was the end of the world and only my dog and I were left, I would rather die and have him eat me so that he could live. I know that my dog would wait for me to die naturally before he actually ate me. Most humans, like the ones on this thread would kill the dog first. Who cares as long as they survive, right? Dogs know they shouldn't eat their best friends until they're dead, even dogs understand proper table manners.

    July 4, 2011 at 6:29 pm | Reply
  30. B. Anna

    Excuse the typo above. Thanks

    Humans were strictly gatherers before the discovery of fire. It is not mankind’s nature to eat meat. When the climate became too harsh, natural plants and the likes became scarce. In desperation humans tried to eat raw meat as they have observed from wild animals. After doing so they realized that they immediately became very ill, disease would spread and eventually they would die. Sickness was rampant, life expectancy was very short, the men and women were desperate for a birth to reach full term. When man discovered fire, they learned that they could consume meat safely.
    If mankind were born to eat meat then why is it that we cannot eat raw meat like the lions, the tigers and the hyenas without getting sick to this day? Why is that we cannot devour the bones, the hair, or the contents of the stomach as dogs and other carnivores do without becoming very ill? Why is that we do not have teeth like the lions, tigers, hyenas, and dogs? We cannot consume raw meat and we do not have teeth as real carnivores do, therefore we are not meant to eat meat. Man evolved to teach themselves how to survive during harsh times. We are not in harsh times. We have taught ourselves agriculture, but does that mean we have to practice it without moral, regard, or respect? To think that man can take any living being and profit from it is selfish and cocky. Today people consume more meat than is needed; now they want to eat dogs too? How sad.
    If people want to eat dogs because food and money is scarce, that's their choice. I am an Asian/Pacific Islander and have a family dog. I would not in a million years eat a dog, but I would not judge others for it either. If it was the end of the world and only my dog and I were left, I would rather die and have him eat me so that he could live. I know that my dog would wait for me to die naturally before he actually ate me. Most humans, like the ones on this thread would kill the dog first. Who cares as long as they survive, right? Dogs know they shouldn't eat their best friends until they're dead, even dogs understand proper table manners.

    July 4, 2011 at 6:31 pm | Reply
    • Paul

      Actually we can and still do eat raw meat. If the meat is fresh there is a very low chance of any harmful bacteria to be found in meat as they cannot penetrate into the tissue. You should try to eat some type of tartar or carpaccio. Chimpanzees, our closest relatives eat raw meat as well. The reason why we cook meats is that it makes it much easier to digest and allows us to gain access to more nutrients within it, this goes the same for vegetables as well.

      July 4, 2011 at 7:00 pm | Reply
      • B. Anna

        @ Paul:

        The medical definition of "Canine" pertaining to teeth is explained as a conical pointed tooth, not canine meaning dog teeth. We may have conical-shaped teeth (all four of them), but they are nothing compared to the teeth found in a true carnivore's mouth.

        Do you pull raw meat off the bone with your bare teeth? Do you pierce that animal's fur and skin with your canines to get to that raw meat or is it put in a package for you to pick up at the grocery store? If you're meant to eat raw meat like animals, then you should go out and hunt for it like wild animals do. Then come back and tell me that it's natural for humans to do that sort of thing. If you behaved that way, society would suggest you are infected with rabies because it isn't normal for humans to run around with their "dog teeth" attached to the back of a cow.

        It is an obvious fact that taking another life as a food resource is an action of survival in both the animal kingdom and our human civilization, which is why I did not elaborate on that. The practice of agriculture is, however, a creation by man for the simple convenience to access food, thereby eliminating hunting for said food. Is it fair to farm every meat available to man because we can?

        Of course it's disgusting to eat the contents of a stomach. I'm not saying humans do it or should do it. I am saying wild animals do it and humans do not because the human stomach is not strong enough to stand up to a lot of the natural bacteria that occurs in wild animals or even domesticated animals.

        Humans today can eat heavily managed (with chemicals) farmed meats in raw form, but it is still dangerous. Do not believe that because you are eating raw farmed beef that you are safe from food born illnesses. They have to treat raw meats with ammonia and whatever else to kill dangerous bacteria. You are wrong. If meat is only cooked so that it is easily digested, then why do people get sick or even die from eating "undercooked" meat?

        You bring up the point that chimpanzees eat meat; do you also do what chimpanzees do because they are closely related to humans? Just because chimpanzees eat meat doesn't mean humans are meant to eat meat because they are closely related. Chimpanzees also rip off testicles and chew off faces. Is that acceptable behavior for humans to do because their closely-related chimpanzees do it?!

        So we have different opinions. You stated yours and I've stated mine and I agree to disagree. Have a wonderful 4th. I have to end here before the fireworks. Bye.

        July 4, 2011 at 10:20 pm |
      • Paul

        I don't understand why a species must kill a animal with their bare teeth or hands to be called a meat eating species. We are on top of the food chain for a reason, we have larger brains that has allowed us to think and develop other methods of hunting or cultivating food. There are ants that cultivate their own source of fungus to eat, This is evolution. This is why we are on top. That being said and like I have said earlier this comes with responsibilities. There is nothing wrong with farming animals, but there are methods of doing so that are.

        You keep on saying we cannot eat raw meat and I will tell you once again. Bacteria CANNOT penetrate into the muscle tissues of animals like cow or duck (AKA red meats). The reason why we do get sick from white meats (AKA pigs) is because they have micro vessels in the meat that bacteria can enter, which in turn could lead to you getting salmonella. If you found a wild cow somewhere that's healthy you could kill it and eat it on the spot. Yes we cannot eat the contents of the stomach because out immune system is not build for it correctly. That alone is not proof that we were not built to eat meat. Did you even read my analogy with vegetables? Our bodies aren't build to eat grass or leaves because we cannot break down cellulose. You insist that we were built to eat vegetables and insist that because we cannot eat certain parts of a animal we were not built to eat them. Yet we cannot eat grass or leaves and with your logic we were not build to eat vegetables either.

        Yes I agree with you that animals we cultivate are heavily treated with chemicals and antibiotics though many are for increasing the animals body mass. However, they are treated for the packaging and shipping of said meats because bacteria can be found of the surfaces after the animal is been partitioned.

        July 5, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • Paul

      The reason why many do get sick from raw meat isn't because of the meat itself. It is mainly due to our unsanitary methods of slaughtering and transportation that leads the spoiling or contamination of it. Just because we are not able to digest the fur or bones of a animal doesn't lead to any proof that we were not made to eat meat. Our digestive systems are just not made to do so just like how we cannot eat grass or leaves because we cannot break down the cellulose found in it, yet we still eat other vegetables that do not contain it.

      July 4, 2011 at 7:03 pm | Reply
    • Paul

      You do bring up a good point on why humans have the right to take any life, though I would not state it in that way. Taking another life for our survival isn't something found only in human behavior. It occurs in every form of life right down to bacteria and virus' (If you consider them alive or not is a different debate). The question that SHOULD be the real debate is the responsibility that comes with taking another life for our survival. If you take a life to eat, then you shouldn't waste a thing like organs. I am aware that everywhere around the world people waste food, but I that in many western cultures it is getting out of hand. The mention of eating the stomach or intestine of a cow is disgusting to many and I have seen fisheries throw away fish heads, which to me is the best part of the fish.

      Because we are on top of the food chain and can pretty much wipe out of species if we so choose so, I think societies around the world need to have a good think about that responsibility and stop wasting so much of what we take.

      July 4, 2011 at 7:16 pm | Reply
    • Jack

      Actually, modern day humans have emerged almost solely because our progenitor species began eating meat. Doing so lead to increased brain masses in our continual evolutionary development. To say meat eating is not inherently human would be faulty as meat consumption is what made us what we are today.

      July 5, 2011 at 6:18 am | Reply
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