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Celebrities with a penchant for weird baby names (looking at you, David and Victoria Beckham) should avoid having kids in New Zealand.
The country’s Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages has been cracking down on parents who get too creative when naming their kids, Australia’s Herald Sun reports.
The list of weird names for kids that are banned by New Zealand’s names registrar has grown to include Lucifer, Duke, Messiah and 89.
Also not approved: Bishop, Baron, General, Judge, King, Knight and Mr., names that were all said to be too similar to titles.
The letters, C, D, I and T were also rejected as first names, the Herald Sun says.
As well, the agency has refused to allow names involving asterisks, commas, periods and other punctuation marks.
And three different sets of Kiwi parents wanted to name their children Lucifer, only to have the name choice nixed.
In 2008, New Zealand’s names registrar drew international attention when it approved such non-traditional names as Benson and Hedges for a set of twins, as well as the boys names of Violence and Number 16 Bus Shelter.
But New Zealand isn’t the only country to ban wacky names for kids, the Toronto Globe and Mail reports.
In Sweden, name choices are subject to a naming law. While Lego and Google have been approved as names for children, Superman, Metallica and Elvis, and the name Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116, pronounced Albin, were not approved.
In 2007, a judge in the Dominican Republic submitted a proposal to ban names that are either confusing or gave no indication of gender, such as the names Qeurida Pina (Dear Pineapple) and Tonton Ruiz (Dummy Ruiz), according to the Globe and Mail.
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Fareed, you have the most informative show on television. You have helped me inspire an interest in global affairs in my kids aged 24 and 19. I would just like to comment that two sundays ago on State of the Union with Candy Crowley (R) Kevin McCarthy said that Canada had less population than California but created more jobs. He then went on to say that that proves the United States obviously needs to lower taxes. Well I am seventh generation Canadian and I know for a fact that we pay more taxes. I also know if I get sick I get medical care for free. My health insurance plan (private) only has to pay for optical, dental, and private hospital rooms so my premiums are affordable. My RRSP (Canada's Retirement Tax Free Savings Program) earned 14.21 % interest this past year invested only in Canadian stocks. The United States is our big brother, and you need to get over this political racism and concentrate your efforts to help us make North America the continent of opportunity once again. Billy Buttery
Just to clarify, the income tax rates in Canada are actually lower, as are the corporate tax rates, however, the American tax code is so filled with loopholes that the effective tax rates for the wealthy and for corporations is much lower in the USA than it is in Canada. The result is that effective tax rates in Canada are about 8-10% higher than they are in the USA. This allows Canadians to address important economic fundamentals such as a quality education system, universal health care (which allows for improved economic flexibility for workers), and the maintenance and improvement of infrastructure.
I take issue with one thing you mention. "...the maintenance and improvement of infrastructure." I live in a border city between the United States and Canada (1 hr south of Montreal), and must say Quebec's road and bridge system is in a deplorable state. Even when they do set about fixing the roads and bridges it takes many years! The rest of your comment I will not comment on as I do not pay Canadian taxes.
The difference is obvious and easily summarized: the primary function of the Canadian government is securing the prosperity of Canadians in general, while the US government is set up to make sure the wealthy get to scr*w the public as hard as they possibly can without actually starving them to death.
Corey – something to keep in mind: Quebec has, and has always had, some of the most corrupt politicians in the world, let alone Canada. As such, what you've described does not come as shock to me.
Also Bob, Canada is smart enough to not start wars.
Yes, MOJarry, Canada is smart enough not to start wars. Canada is also smart enough/mooching enough to let the U.S. foot most of its defense costs and fight the wars that keep Canada independent. Although with Quebec running the country, you may end up having some internal wars.
MOJarry, tha's true. The reason the U.S. srtarts wars around the world is, as Tex71 points out, to do to the rest of the world what they do in the U.S..
Well said Bob. Glad someone was able to give the facts.
Corey, roads area local issue not a federal issue.
@Aaron Which wars have the USA fought to protect Canada without Canada's involvement? Iraq, Viet Nam? Don't think any of those had any kind of threat for Canada. Maybe you were referring to WW11 when the Canadians were valiantly fighting (as was the rest of the free world) for a full 2 1/2 years before we even got involved (and at that it was only because of Pearl Harbor). Or maybe you were referring to Afghanistan where Canada has distinguished itself and on a per capita basis has lost more troops than any other coalition partner. Aaron my friend, your theory is complete hogwash. Yes I am a proud American.
@Aaron One slight omission. In WW1 Canada had been fighting and losing tens of thousands of troops a full 3 years before we, the USA even entered into the fight.
Corey blame your provincial government. Highways are provincial. Here in B.C. the roads, at least in the southern half of the province, are in beautiful shape. I can't comment on the north since I haven't driven them.
A big difference between Americans and Canadians: A Canadian will politely comment on what they know and leave the rest up to someone else. An American will comment on everything, especially if they have no clue what they're talking about, as is the case with most subjects. I'm an American.
Yeah, Alberta's roads are in beautiful shape too. Saskatchewans are not, though they still don't remotely approach how bad the roads are in Louisiana.
uh, guys....that's a nice back and forth, but
what does that have to do with New Zeland and baby names ?
exactly what i thought when i scrolled down..
Billy Buttery – You are so wrong about MSP. it is not free in BC. If you work, the employer pays for it. Otherwise, you have to pay for it yourselves unless you live in Ontario where it is free.
I like to read Fareed's articles, but I am not intelligent enough to absorb all of it. Too bad, I guess.
I guess Shamiquanelle and Jaquitas are still ok then?
Billy – I love you Country, and my brother and I have often taken trips there for longbak country camping trips. We accidentally passed through Ottawa during the bicentenial. There was not a room to be had, but a clerk in one hotel called around to many different htoels and landed a room with a fold out couch and a cot, right across from the parliment building! It was amazing. Thenext day (hung over from the party) we made it to la Verendre (sp?) for a 100 mile 14 day canoe trip. One ofthe best experiences of my life. My family, on my father'd side can be traced back to fur trappers in Canada in the 1600s.
Also, during one particular USA bashin incident (I forget which one) one Canadian writer made a point that Canadians love their brothers to the south. It pointed out, that as all, the US has faults, but when puch comes to shove, the US is always there to lend a helping hand to almost any country, be it a naturl disaster or man made one. Thanks!
Love your Country,
Chritopher Marchnd
And the relevance to baby names is?
Stop hijacking threads with political agendas. Not everyone reading this is interested in the internal affairs of the US. Beleive it or not, there are other countries in the world too.
i am
I tried to name my child John'; drop master; - and now the country is trying to sue me
I hope Harper Seven, the new-born Beckham will change her name one day.
While 'Seven' is a bit strange, Harper is a traditional English name, and I don't find it strange at all. Ever heard of Harper Lee? It's a normal enough name.
Very good!
What is wrong with Harper Seven. I guess Seven stands for Lucky. Harper stands for Harper PTA whatever PTA stands for. A name is just a name. If the baby does not like it, the baby when becomes an adult can go and change it. While the baby is under the parents' care, the parents can name whatever (but no sinister names) for the baby. What is so weird about Harper Seven? It is so unique. The baby will probably be a billionnaire when the baby is 18 years old.
I'll tell you what's a pain about a unique name – living with it. Spelling it again and again and again. Explaining the origin of it again and again and again. Having people make funny faces when they see it – again and again and again. And it sounds easy to change your name when you're of age – but try getting people to call you by it, particularly those folks who gave you that real cool, unique name in the first place! Doesn't happen. I guess you could move to an entirely different place and cut off anyone who knew you by your stupid unique name, but that usually isn't practical or even desired.
Parents should remember that THEY are not the ones who have to take the comments, giggling, remarks, ridicule, people deciding it would be easier to call you by some pseudonym and having to spell their names all the time. I've been going through it for fifty-one years, and let me tell you, I'm over it. Giving a kid a weird name is NOT a kindness, and is nothing but an ego trip for the parents. "Oh, see how creative and original WE are, giving this poor little person who has no choice in the matter a STUPID name like Bush Shelter 16, or Apple, or Seven." It's all about the parents, not about the child. Everyone doesn't have to be named Mary or John, but they shouldn't end up with some ridiculous handle they have to endlessly spell and explain either.
JFT: I think it has to do with how one chooses to view the unique name. I have a very different and unique name and while I'll agree I went by a more "normal" nickname as a young child as I got older (around 10 years old even) I began to embrace the name as a unique gift from my parents. I enjoyed telling people about it and once I got older people really only ever gave me positive feedback about it. Granted I'm in my late 20s and my generation grew up more accepting of differences. I'm sorry that you felt mainly frustration about your name. It's not too late to embrace and enjoy it though.
JFT: Couldn't agree more.
I can see some of the banned things – punctuation marks, the long nonsensical ones, etc. But baron? Elvis? Duke? What's the problem? And i'm no fan of nobility or elvis...
leeintulsa, I agree. Here in the US, Baron is an uncommon first name, but not a rarity.
Elvis is more common (ranking around 600th out of 1200 names).
And, most importantly, they're both names of famous or relatively famous people (even aside from Elvis Presley, there are several semi-famous Elvi), so it would be illogical to ban their names.
But, again, that's in the US...they're not popular or common outside the US.
What about Elvis Costello? He's english.
Yes, Jay, Elvis is English. But his birth name is Declan MacManus – which is Irish. As is 'Costello', by the way.
it is a problem, because you are not the boy who is going to be harassed because your name is "rosebud" or bannaboat, or something, of like Pen Gelette's kid "moxy Crime Fighter Gellette".
Best comment here so far!
Agree!
Or Blanket.
I thought the Beckham babys name was Harper Grace not Harper Seven! Either way, it's normal enough. I agree that some names need to be curbed, but I don't agree with a list. It should be a case by case decision! There is nothing wrong with the name Elvis for ex., it's a legit name. Naming your kid Toiletta or Bbbblojnnnpppwwwsghhh etc.should definitely be subject to discussion. If you're going to string a bunch of letters together & say its pronounced "Albin" why not spell it that way, too! I have an unusual name & am all for parents wanting their kids to have individuality, but going crazy with the idea wont do your kid any favors!!
How can Elvis be banned when it's been used as a first name for over 100 years?
Agree
As long as stupid people breed, we will have awesome names like LaTrina or names that are constructed from random syllables that mean nothing whatsoever.
I once met a hairstylist's daughter named "Aquanetta". Absolutely true story.
Imagine a plumber naming his son Monkeywrenchus Jones, or a baker's kid called Donuthole, or a hardware store owner (or a lawyer) naming a kid Screw.
I worked at a children's hospital a few years ago and no joke, a little girl's name was "Areola". None of the staff could even say it with a straight face....I felt so sorry for that poor baby! Talk about mapping out your child's future...
i have a very interesting last name: it's hadwiger. The sur name 'wig' in german usually applies to warriors or soldiers, 'er' generally is applied to mean that one is successful at what they do; i carry a name of soldiers (though I am far from being one, i am a chemist). Now there are lots of people out there with names that describe professions their ancestors once had (names like smith, were the family once may have been actual smiths; you also find this in Africa and China wear people bear last names with meanings like 'paper maker'). It's very common to name a child after the parents (or in my case... ancestors) profession. A little more unusual for the first name, but take a close look at last names. Almost all of them can be traced back to a profession.
I had a class with a science teacher who actually named her son Ferrous Selenium.
Actually, Aquanetta was the stage name of a movie actress who was popular in the 1940s and 50s and the name became quite frequently used in the Hispanic and black communities. I went to school in the 1960s with a lot of girls named Aquanetta. Google is your friend.
I had a music teacher through grade school named Harry Dick Peterson- really. Parents: think before you name.
Or Wonhunglo.
Really, you'd allow the government to tell people what they can name their children? Scary.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.
Yes, the govt should be able to ban certain names for 3 reasons; 1. to protect the child from embarassment and inconvenience later in life; 2 to spare the public the trouble and confusion of dealing with names that are 30 letters long and unpronouncable; 3 to avoid insult to people (e.g. names with expletives)
Says the guy with the most common name in the country. Jeez. You actually think naming your kid something stupid is a fight thats worth having?
My dad loves this story....
The nurse came in to our room after the delivery of another baby at the hospital. She looked really disturbed. She got to talking with my dad, and apparently the women who gave birth chose a rather....unconventional name. Apparently the combination of the drugs and relief from labor got to her head. She hadn't picked out a name prior to the baby's birth, so she used a variation on the must "beautiful" word she had ever heard...a word which she hadn't heard prior to her baby's birth..... The woman chose the name "Placentia."
"Placentia" (pronounced pleh-sen-shuh) is actually the name of two cities, one in CA and one in Canada: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/placentia So it's really not that far-fetched...
I suspect that the mother was not all that well-versed in Latin and may have meant "placenta."
LLa Trina in Italian (latrina) is the military toilette....lol
In my opinion, celebrities pick crazy names because they crave attention and really don't care about what the kids will go thru when they get older. They're pathetic
Agreed! So what if Lucifer gets beat up every day at school, and much change his (her?) name before entering the workforce. We had our fun at their expense.
I agree that is mostly celebs doing the dumb name game, but I work with a Trinetta, a Tatania, and a shequeta (sp). It is a bit anoying, its like "who has the craziest name" game.
Black people names make you mad, we get it.
Tatania is a well known name of Russian origin.
JFT claims "Tatania is a well known name of Russian origin." Don't you mean Tatiana? Spelling is so underrated.
Celebrities kids don't need to worry about being picked on for having a funny name because they are celebrities kids....
**Elvis is not banned, the banned name was "Metallica and Elvis" the whole 3 words as a first name. See commas, etc. in story.
Good catch
Thank you Julie for clarifying...that hadn't made sense to me. So much for comma separated values.
You must be in the data industry!
No- "Metallica and Elvis" is not 1 name. The way that the commas and the use of the word "and" is used in the sentence means that each name (Superman, Metallica, Elvis)... in addition to the absurd array of letters (pronounced Albin)...were not approved.
Continuing signs of imperial domination around the globe and of self-righteous, judgmental people who believe that we must all fit into their ideological paradigm rather than living with others who are different and accepting them. Live and let live. Judge not, lest ye be judged. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. What is it with all these so called Christians who are running around making issues out of names and using their pretend piety as firmament to support their positions? Find something better to do with tax payer money like fixing roads, health and education, scientific R&D and leave the people alone and let them live.
I don't think banning Lucifer as a name has much to do with New Zealand promoting Christianity. I didn't see anything in the story saying the names Muhammed, Ishmael, Abraham, or Moshe had been banned. New Zealand may be misguided, but I see this as a state trying to protect some infants from the stupidity of their parents. I also saw nothing suggesting Jee Seok, Toshiro, Sunil or other names associated with any particular ethnic group, including traditional Maori names, might be banned.
Who said anything about Christians? What, you read an article and jump to the massive conclusion that Christians are behing it? "Well it must be true, 'cos who else would wanna stop me from having fun?" I have news for you, friend, most of teh countries that have laws like these are post-Christian nations at best who are trying to preserve their sense of culture and are threatened by non-traditional names. I am all for letting someone name their kid whatever they want to, but you can't hang this on Christians. You are obviously reading with a prejudice.
huh?
Would love it if the US banned stupid names!
Would not work. Who would listen to Roger Limbaugh?
@Me...The same teabagging, right wing freaks of nature that listen to 'Rush' Limbaugh.
You mean names like LaQuan, Moesha, Lebron, Propecia, Elledel, Calculus...
Why don't we just ban stupid?
because 250 million americans would be banned? are you going to do all the exicutions?
If we banned stupid here in the US all, of the democrats would have to go either to Canada, who certainly don't want a bunch of under educated morons, or to Mexico who thinks it is ok for their poor uneducated to go north but they don't want a bunch of uneducated illegals to come south. Looks like we are stuck with them.
If we banned stupid, the only people who would be left are Libertarians and Asians.
Really? You seriously want the government to start banning and regulating our things in our personal lives? While I may not like that a parent names their child Lucifer or Metallica, it is their right. If the government regulates names, what's next? Clothing? Professions? Vocabulary? What movies can get made and be seen by the public? What color we can paint our houses?
Yeah, and while we're at it, yes, if my neighbors wanted to paint their house pink and purple stripes, well then, yes, I'd want that banned too! I bet you would too.
what, you mean like alcohol, tobacco and drugs?
You haven't seen any wierd names until you see what the African Americans are naming their children. I think that they are probably just trying to name them conventional names but the spelling is truly out of this world. I doubt most of them can even spell their names. I guess none of them should plan on emigrating to New Zealand.
me too!
I think the USA should ban the name "Julie", and "Kevin".
Hey Kevin, what is wrong with Julie? Thanks, Kevin
"Julie
Would love it if the US banned stupid names!
July 21, 2011 at 11:19 am | Reply"
Nothing is wrong with the name "Julie". But who gets to decide which names should be banned? We should be careful what we wish for!
My neighbor's name is Julie and a nicer, more friendly person I have never met. I would make some unkind remark about your name except my grandson is named Kevin.
Thank you for making my point. What if I was the US bureaucrat in charge of deciding which names we should ban and I rally didn't like the name "July"? That is the problem with NZ government deciding they can ban names.
I'm terribly upset by your comment.
Wow. I think this is a big F*** YOU moment directed right at the New Zealand Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages. I hope the Kiwis can overrule that bu!! sh!t.
Unfortunately, it probably won't happen. It's sadly a reality that many governments have naming conventions or ban/regulate names. New Zealand isn't unique in this matter. I think Iceland is one of the strictist.
Having said that, I would support not allowing numbers, characters, and punctuation as names or within names because names are words and numbers, characters, and punctuation are not used in words. At least not allowing it officially for things like Social Security and Driver's Licenses.
Voltaire, I'm originally from Canada where we also have had civil servants basically sketching out what you can and can't do the last 20 years, ostensibly because they know better than the individual on any number of things. However, I know a work-around. Canada, NZ, Aus, etc. always buckle when you threaten that something is 'your culture' or 'your religion', etc. They (we) have become so prissy-politically-correct, that if you basically threaten to sue the government for impinging on your beliefs or culture, or better yet, get the story in the newspaper, you'll get anything you want. I personally despise such tactics, but alas, our civil servants bring it upon themselves.
There are extremely minimal requirements that I'd agree with as well, but these, "rules", that I've heard of so far do not fall into that category, e.g., "Baron", "Princess", what-have-you. I'm sick of government, big business, etc., solving THEIR issues by constraining people; there is far too much of that going on as it is!
There is more personal liberty in the United States than any other country in the world, but the young wanna be libtards think The US is the worst place in the world. Even when they see crap like the name bans in New Zealand they let it go in one ear and out the other. Becaus of them we are slowly starting to l;ose our freedoms.
Yes, only good Chrisitan names should be allowed. Even for non-Christian families. I can only imagine why someone would name a baby Number 16 Bus Shelter. Was that the place of conception?? TMI!!
I seem to recall Garth Brooks and his (now) ex-wife named their children after the places they were conceived!
And Brooks is a redneck, so whats your point?
Don't think so, since their names are Taylor Mayne Pearl , August Anna , Allie Colleen! I seem to recall that Taylor's middle name is after Minnie Pearl. On the other hand, Garth's actual first name is pretty red neck: Troyal! No wonder he doesn't use it.
Taylor was named after James Taylor
It said nothing about Christian or non-Christiann names. You do realize, don't you, that "Lee" is a non-Christian name and yet would be allowed? As would Douglas, Cliff, Beverly, Gwen, Jennifer, etc. You people who have to bring your anti-Christian rant to every freaking board bore the living crap out of me!
Only good Christian names? What stork brought you in? Does belief in another religion prohibit the use of a name they consider good for their child? Why Christian, Christian, Christian????
Only good Christian names like Amy and Daniel, right?. Those sound normal enough, except they are the names of fallen angels, as is Lucifer.
Of course, I would name my son Abezethibou.
I hated my given name and changed it, and it was a real name, not something "creative". Parents who name their kids Moon Unit, Pilot Inspektor, and Moxie Crimefighter are cruel and callous. There SHOULD be a law against this sort of thing.
Although the jury is still out on Moxie and Pilot, Moon Unit appears to be a well adjusted, law abiding citizen who could have changed her name by now, but hasn't. I'm not a fan of really crazy baby names, but who will get to decide what is a 'normal' name if we outlaw them? If the Name Bureau has a lot of Christians working there, would the name "Vishnu" be automatically deemed too weird? What about names that sound too foreign? Would Terry and Pat go to the wayside because they aren't gender specific? I'm all for banning any type of punctuation in a name, but would that rule out Mary-Ann? In a free country, let the fools name their kids what they will and then call the kid what the child prefers to be called and let them change it free of charge the minute they turn 18.
in many cultures, and in most ancent culutres, when a boy became a man, they would take a new name for themselves, I think we should start that tridition here, if you disagree with the folks it shoul be a free 1 paper form to chance it to something more aproperate.
Mary-Ann could easily become Marianne.
The name ceremony isn't a bad idea. However, I'd be worried that a 13, 16, or 18 year old kid isn't going to be much better at choosing a name than a parent. I can only imagine a Chris thinking his name is too normal and bland and instead choosing Blade or some such.
My parents are Terry and Pat and aside from their names sometimes being in the wrong gender order as compared to other parents on a list, it's not been a big deal. They named me Shy, which is uncommon, but a great name =) I named my kids Lucy and Max....
I know someone (sadly, a member of my extended family) who named her baby Danger. She should just embroider 'Kick Me' on his shirts now, or else make sure he's got his black belt before he's ready for kindergarden. I also knew a guy who had an incredibly stupid first and middle name to begin with, who proceeded to name each of his kids (boys AND girls) the same first and middle names, he just added an extra middle name to differentiate between them. Some people are just idiots.
It might be cool if you last name was "Mouse"
My 21 year old Niece just gave her baby Danger as a middle name because she wants him to always be able to say "Danger is my middle name". Art least he has a normal first and last name.
kinda like george forman, who probibly did it, because after all the hits to the dome, he could only remember his OWN name for a long time.
He could go by Dan.
@Ali: that's becoming a pretty popular trend nowadays.
Better yet there should be a ban on parents. If you plan to name your child Bus Shelter 16 you should be deemed an unfit parent and not be allowed to have kids. These people and names are moronic. And I'm all for clever names within reason. Like I don't think they should have banned Baron- that's not that outlandish.
baron's not bad. my next door neighbor's dog's name was baron and isnt that donald trump's kid's name?
What was your name, might I ask?
Good for the Kiwis. It is depressing to see how the naming of children has degenerated in the USA. For all of recorded history, choosing a name been a thoughtful act of linking a meaningful word to a child in an expression of goodwill. In recent years, it has become common and even fashionable to identify a newborn baby with a random sequence of phonemes or with a number, as if the hapless infant were a prisoner or a robot. This clearly expresses a cultural trend of laziness (at best), or in the worst case, rampant ignorance. Many Americans do not even know the meaning of their own names; even more unfortunately, many of them do not even have a meaning to be aware of.
What's in a name?
it can be a link to your past. However if your name has been change for cultural reasons, you loose that link.
Try living with a weird name that nobody can pronounce or spell and explaining it and spelling it for years and then ask that question, Eric.
About time someone decides to stop these parents if they won't stop and think themselves. Absolutely no regard for the kids. I'd love to talk to Pilot Inspektor (however they spelled it) down the road and see how he feels.
I hear Pilot Inspektor has a new baby sister named Proktologist.
good. it is cruel to name your child Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. There needs to be some standards. I personally think some countries such as the US go too far. Naming your child Dummy or Moon Unit should net the parent some counseling.
how about child abuse
I'm pretty sure that Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 was intentionally chosen as a nose thumb to the name laws.
If the re tard parents come up with some of these stupid names...change the names of the re tards then.
*sigh* your use of that word in a derrogatory sense is every bit as offensive as the use of n*****. Please take some time to educate yourself. I realize that you probably just don't know, but this is a long-going battle for those of us who work with people with intellectual disabilties. thanks.
Thank you for speaking up Kevin. My sister works in your field as well.
Parents should think before they name their child. I have friends that were teased in school due to their unusual names. It puts so much stress on the children- bulling, and other form of harassment. There are so many beautiful normal names.
Maybe they should NOT think before naming their kids. Seems like their "creative thinking" is the biggest problem.
Wait till these kids get to put the "creative, thoughtful" parents in the Nursing Home-they can tell the staff the old geezers are called "Dribbler" or "Wee-Wee Ponger" or suchlike. Shows the same amount of respect and caring.
Any parent who wanted to name their kids Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 or Lucifer should have those kids taken away.
Various Canadian provinces will ban names that could be considered unacceptable. This would include the obvious unwanted names [Bin Laden, Hitler, Dubya [:-)],...] and probably naming after a company or product ["My name is Coca-Cola Pepsi Smith"] as well as names that could cause problems to the kid in question in life [i.e. will be made fun at].
Funny you should say that. I know a Coke Smith. However, Coke is actually a family name for him.
There was a baby in my county named "Pepsi" a few years ago!
my my husbnad wanted to name our dog pepsi!
I think all names should be banned, except Joe Smith and Anne Smith. That would simplify choosing a name for your child and then no one would feel out of place because of their name. It would simplify the phone directory too (although it may decrease the usefulness of the directory)
Or we could just use a numbering system.
I think you're on to something there...After all, on a planet with 7 Billion people (please stop breeding!), we're all just a number anyway!
beernpizzalover: "Stop breeding" - Stupid! Don't you realize that has happened and there aren't enough young people to pay the health care of the baby boomers?
Tsh. Your numbers are out of sequence. Deeee-nied!
Numbering system? I bet the anti-Lucifer group would then ban 666.
Like in Wall-E, everyone is named John and Mary. Good times.
We need laws like that in the US. This is true. Someone named their kid "Lae-a". Then explaned that her name was, "Lay dash ah, the dash not be silent."
That's right-we need more laws in the U.S. unnecessarily telling people what to do, just for the hell of it.
Oh no, you just gave some idiot their next brilliant idea. They will probably go out and have another kid special for the occasion.
I know I just did!!!!
her parents need to be rammed with "the force"
Urban Legend.
Nope, its not. We've got at least one here in indiana. I know from personal experience.
I think this is a great idea and wish more countries would follow suit.
Signed,
Jackwagon
So I could not name my kid T J Jr?
Can I name my kid Q after the character Q in Star Trek Next Generation?
Depends, is he omnipotent?
So who is going to decide which is an acceptable name and which is a weird name? And are they going to make the existing people with the "weird" names legally change theirs?
My brother saw an employee with the name De'mentia on it.
I overheard 2 women at work talking about their pregnancies. One woman said she was going to name her girl [spelled phonetically here] "Reh-TEE-nuh". She said, 'It means Princess" in Swahili." The other woman said, "Mmm-hmmm. But it means "eyeball" in English." I couldn't help but smirk when I realized she was going to name the kid retina.
At least that one is a real name in another language rather than Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116, pronounced Albin.
The story would be funnier if you actually knew what a retina was. It's not an eyeball.
so you would honstly have though it was funnier, if she said "i had to smirk when i realized she was going to name her a part of the eye? you are being childish.
Oh, I know a retina is just part of the eye ... but I was just relaying the discussion as I heard it. Fool.
A nurse friend of mine swears that a woman in his ward named her child "Meconium" which is feces in the amniotic fluid, which the woman heard the nurses use during the birth. No way for me to prove it, but, he swears it's true.
There are names that are absolutely beautiful sounding within the context of one culture/language, that appear totally inappropriate in another country/language. For example, the name "Kaushik" has a powerful meaning for Indians, but I can very well imagine the bullying the poor kid would have to endure if his parents brought him to the US. Not to make fun of other cultures, but I cannot imagine what folks with names like Fu King, Hung Lo, etc. endure in their daily lives. It may be easy to point out to Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 as an example of dementia/insanity. However, we need to be sensitive of other cultures and beliefs before jumping to conclusions on the (in)appropriateness of a name.
Hollywood star parents would be in quite a pickle in NZ (and, no you can't use "Pickle")
The stupidity of some people amazes me every day.
Some names in the U.S. that I would love to see go far, far away: Jason, Jake, Jay, Jeremy, Heather, Tiffany, Brittany, LaToya, LaTisha, Kaneshia as well as any bizarre spelling of names similar to these and others (Myka, Mykalia). One of my all time favorites is the none-too-bright parent that named their child Regional instead of Reginald.
Those poor kids will spend the rest of their lives spelling out their names (school, college, military) and cussing the parentsfor sticking them with such stupid names. My father hated his first and middle name so much that he used initials on paperwork and a nickname for everyone but his ditzy mother. She would call him by that first name about every 5 – 10 seconds of a conversation. He would literally grit his teeth every time she said it.
Well then I'm glad you're not in charge of setting the naming policy for this country. I know several people with names on your list (not just celebrities). My brother's name is Jason, and he's never had a problem with it.
Thus the danger of giving anyone else this much control over our lives.
thats why I think a ban should only include numbers symbols and brad/copyright names "coke metallica ect. If it is a name it is fine, if the kids dont dig it, they can change it at 18.
Nikki is a pretty stupid name too! let's ban that as well. Was you're dad's first and middle names Richard Cranium?, Michael Hunt? Seymour Butts? Those would sure upset me me
I went to school with a michael hunt, that went by mike. The sub teacher read his name out loud and turned a great shade of purple, it was classic.
The Michael Hunt thing happened to me too. He called for my boss and I walked into my boss' office and announced Mike Hunt....turned purple and rephrased: Mr. Hunt is on the phone...
To this day I do not understand why he announces himself as Mike!
Here's some Sarah Palin baby name suggestions: Fargo, Spatula, Trigtwit, Pinworm, Mudflap, Bristoltwit, Weedeater, Scabpicker, Checkvalve.
And don't forget Booger-eater, Fartmore, Pulltop, and Oops.
There's also Bug-eye, Stinkfinger and Blunderbuss. And if she has twins they can be named Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum.
ComeInMyMouthNextTime
while the visual there is good, i think your comment is a little too nasty for this site. (and i'm far from a prude.)
I think it is a good concept. People should not be able to name their kid some of these crazy names. But then who gets to decide what is over the line. I think what should happen is, when someone suggests naming their kid Lucifer, before putting it on the birth certificate there shoud be a mental evaluation, which would most likeley reveal major issues. Then take the kid and put Mike on the cert and find it a good caring home.
I hope my previous response, talking about Canada and the US, really links as a reply to the comment it was meant for. Too bad comments don't always appear immediately.
Regarding the story, I have to admit: Being from a "Commonwealth" country, I fully thought that once again, some well-meaning person in New Zealand's legislature passed yet another well-meaning law that adds yet another thing you cannot do in a supposedly free-country, just as Australia, Canada and the UK do every 5 minutes.
However, after reading some of the names people want to name their children, about all I can say is good on them. When a parent needs to name their child 'Lucifer' or '89', they really aren't thinking of their child. They are doing something for their own sake, reputation, image, etc. About all I can say is, if you live in NZ and want to name you child all the letters of the alphabet, fly to Fiji and have the name issued there. If that seems like too much trouble...well, there you go. Think about the trouble your child would otherwise go through up until age 18.
Good. Parents can be very selfish in naming their kids and that BS has got to go, as kids suffer in school for having weird names. Its one thing to have a name from a foreign country, its quite another make up BS for your own entertainment, but at your child's cost.
What a limitation on individual freedom. I presume this applies if I want to change my own name too.
If you're over the legal age and compos mentis, why not be allowed to screw up your own name and your own life as far as the law allows?
Belgium has a law that you can't name a baby a "made-up" name. You can only use accepted names. I have mixed emotions about this, I think people should pretty much have the right to name their child whatever they want but then again, the child will have to live with that name, no matter how goofy. I understand Moon Unit Zappa changed her name, keeping the "Moon" but ditching the "Unit". Lucifer wouldn't exactly be my first choice either, nor Satan, etc. I guess we do need SOME laws to protect children from psychopaths that would name them stuff like that.
Why does Moon Unit always get picked on? She has a little sister named Diva Thin Muffin Pigeen Zappa! By the way, Moon did not drop Unit from her name, it's just her middle name so day-to-day, she is called Moon.
I am reminded of a friend who was a teacher and had a student who spelled his name "SEMAJ" When she had difficulty saying it to the parents, they got indignant and said it wasn't difficult; it was simply "James" spelled backward. Now I ask all of you - why would parents name a kid this and what is the point of it? I say good for Australia and the US should do the same thing - after all, our government is worried about light bulbs and seatbelts and education - why not names too!!!!
Have you encountered any of the many kids named "Nevaeh" that are running around of late. Another one of those dumb backward word/name things. I know a Nevaeh and she hates the name – and she's only three.
Ooops - I meant to say good for New Zealand!!!!
Some of those names are just presumptuous and disrespectful; Dummy Ruiz, Violence and Number 16 Bus Shelter?
I know an eighth grader named "Nemesis." Poor kid! I've had students named Noel Winter (b. Dec. 25), Dusty Rhodes, Sandy Beach, etc, but the local paper recently had a newborn who was named "April To Whom the Angels Pray." Why do people saddle their children with names they cannot escape.
Has New Zealand lost its collective sense of humor? I love all the names posted here. The kids will be called what their siblings and friends want to call them. So what!
Nemesis has its origins in Greek mythology, actually. While I wince at the "pun" names, young Dusty's parents are more likely pro wrestling fans who simply named their offspring after a rather well-regarded babyface former world champion.
I used to date a man named Enwaycy Gonzalez, and his parents named him that because he was born in New York City. I just called him Gonz. I know a guy who named his son Devon Aire.
Who are you really, Kat?
I vote we ban the names Chelsea, Tiffany and Brandon. Also any names that are just nonsensical, pretentious, made up on the spur of the moment(LaToyota, Laacretia, Myopia, etc.).
Working in a hospital, I have heard all the weird baby names to come out of our nursery. Octane, Roman Emperor, Shi'thed, Satavia Sunshine, Cinnamon Sugar, the list just goes on and on. In 99% of the cases, the parents are very young, unwed and under-educated. They thought it was a 'cool' name. Now the kid is saddled with it.
So? It's better to be called Herkimer or Otto? What about Dylan? My grandkids are Berlin and Everest. Great names!
Come on these kids are destined to be failures just like their parents. Maybe they took Cash's "A boy Named sue" to heart
Personally I think Shi'thead is a great one.
When young Shi'thed is 14, I'm sure she will be making her mom a granny. I'd like to see a study done on how unusal names effect future job and income in life.
And if I wanted to name my kid Kiwi, that would be rejected? I thought New Zealand was a sensible place. People can name their kis anything, the kid is theirs, not the governments! By the way, I don't like the name New Zealand! What the hell is a Zea? And why is it new?
Zealand is an island in the Baltic Sea. It's where Copenhagen is. New Zealand is named after a place in the "old" country – like New England, New Jersey, New York (formerly New Amsterdam), New Brunswick, etc.
Actually it is a province in Holland consisting of mostly islands in the North Sea. Dutch cartographers called it "Nova Zeelandia" in 1645 and the name was later anglicised.
PS...Zealand is the English name for the island called "Sjælland" in Danish, but it is not how New Zealand got it's name.
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it, I can't say.
People just liked it better that way.
who named their kid 89...easy to spell i guess... but this article just seriously made my day. Couldn't possibly imagine preschool with a name like Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116, pronounced Albin... that would be terrible. Might as well nix the name La-a (prounounced LAdashA)... Seriously though, parent should have the right to pick their kids names, and children the right to change them when they are old enough.
Better than "69"...oy!
People who phonetically spell their child's name instead of giving it the traditional spelling drive me nuts. Its just makes the name giver look too stupid to know how to spell it right. I get it, you want your kid to be unique and special. What you are really doing is consigning your child to a lifetime of misspelling, mispronouncing, and confusion. Yeah, that's real special.
And the lack of meaningful work. I really doubt that those resumes and apps with the weird spellings actually get much of a look except for low paying jobs.
The problem with this line of thinking is that you reveal your own bias if you reject a qualified applicant simply on the basis of how they spell their name. You think that any smart employer would really choose a Jane with no experience over a LaKynda with plentiful experience?
The other problem with that line of thinking is that you can't possibly know if the name is spelled traditionally (and therefore looks incorrect) rather than americanized. Case in point–names I've seen ridiculed for "unusual spelling"...Sean, Aimee, Beau, Rai, Dion. All are spelled correctly, but because they aren't spelled the way they think it should, they deemed it "spelled wrong" and declared the parents cruel and uneducated.
I would hope that an employer would be educated enough to understand that a name doesn't dictate the worthiness of the applicant.
I recall reading a study about that not long ago. can't remember all of teh details, but basically employers do just as you suggest, even if teh name is normal, but has a weird spelling, like "Mykal."
Yep they do. You are thinking that you have only 2 applicants. With most job opening receiving 10 or more resume/apps you can't interview them all. Therefore, the hiring manager is going to pick 2 or 3 of the most qualified.
Unfortunately we in a society that has bias. I bet you all the money I have that if the hiring manager name is Shenequa she would be more likely to pick Lekisha than Amber
CDG – I would hope you're not so naive that you believe education has anything to do with bias. I hire the most qualified applicant available after the interview.
The names you gave with the exception of Rai are all accepted names I have heard and seen especially Sean and Aimee. I've known more Sean's than Shawn's. Now Seamus
WHO CARES???????
It would appear that you care enough to read the article and to make a response.
Zing!
What in the world??? Some of the names they banned are perfectly legitimate! My father's name was "Knight" and he was a very successful businessman! They also banned the name "Duke"?!?!? Ever hear of Duke Ellington, Duke Snider, or Duke Cunningham???
Those persons were named, respectively: Edward Kennedy Ellington, Edwin Donald Snider, Randall Harold Cunningham. (Thank you, Wikipedia.) In each case, "Duke" seems to have been a nickname...
The US should ban names that are guaranteed to make someone the object of scorn, humiliation or bullying. A Boy Named Sue sounds fine in a song, but in the real world these kids will have real problems. It seems like Frank Zappa started this nonsense when he named his kids Dweezil and Moon Unit...and the Hollyweirdos are STILL messing their kids up with humiliating names. Nicholas Cage named his son Kal-el...the name Superman was born with. Ving Rhames has two kids, named Reignbeau and Freedom. C'mon people!
I hope that Osama and Mohammed are not on that list. We all know what will happen if they are.
Why don't you tell us?
Ah, a leading question to mask the fact that you disagree, clever.
Failing to answer the question so you don't have to admit your racism - not so clever.
Carly, admit my racism? What is racist about anything I wrote, other than your need your need to read that into it? Love it when simpletons such as your self try to construct a coherent thought, and fail.
No, what would happen? Show us how smart you think you are about a culture you've obviously got no repsect for to learn about!
Actually I do know a lot about it, which I posted what I did. The word is respect genius.
Hey genius, Norway just got a taste of that culture.
Wow, "you've obviously got no repsect for to learn about!" Excellent English. Oh, and by the way, Islam is a religion that is part of many different cultures. You should do a little, or may be a lot, of learning yourself, genius.
I got one for you..... Al'Dente. Eloquent isn't it? Even got that awesome apostrophe....
Kevin Carrolan Married Mary Ann Carol and had a daughter – Carol Ann Carol-Carrolan. I also went to school with a girl named Candy Kiss – yes she was the head cheerleader.
I am surprised that so many of the comments posted are in support of the ban. This is simply not right! It is a gross violation of FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS! How can someone decide which name is normal and which one is not? As an advocate of equal rights and justice, I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion of preventing parents from choosing certain names for their children.
it is to protect our childeren from scorn, not a violation of your rights
Protect your own child from scorn and leave others alone.
Protect who? No one should be scorned because of their name. What matters is the content of one's character. This is the problem with America and Europe! There are bigger problems in the world (e.g. Greece economic crsis and the debt ceiling problem in the US) yet we are here debating which names are acceptable and which are not.
My name gets butchered at work at least three times a day and its not an uncommon name in Mexico. I absolutely hate it. I hate having to pronounce it to people I hate having to tell people the meaning behind it because quite frankly the meaning is stupid! Azusena is just another name for an easter lily whoopdydoo!!!!!! So why not just name me Lily? idk my mom thought itd be fun to further complicate my life by giving me this awful name its not enough that im adopted give me the ugly name too!! All ranting aside I belive there should be a certain limit when it comes to naming your children not only are they stuck with an awful name with a weird spelling(sometimes) but they grow up to hate it and kids in school dont understand so they bully make fun . Parents p ease be kind to your babies dont butcher their names!!!!
...Change your name if you hate it
Not as easily said as done, Rastafari. It costs, and then how do you force everyone to use the new name? In particular, the parents who gave you the stupid name in the first place – they and your relatives won't change. Azusena1980, I have total empathy – I have a weird name too. Have tried using pseudonyms at work, desk names, everything short of legally changing the name, which I truly can't afford to do. I have been spelling my own name on an average of twice a day for decades – five decades. Giving kids weird names is not a gift.
I have a (somewhat) weird name. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I can understand banning names made up of nonsensical consonant clusters or numbers, but names that are just unusual should be fine. I write stories, and I enjoy coming up with interesting names for characters. Yeah, I know they're hard to pronounce, but still. My favorites are Liaea, Maethrys, and Felnyxia–they are all girls. They are torture for teachers, but... I am helping run a vacation bible school. I have children in my group named Keegan(girl), Thorn(girl) and Ris(boy). Those are odd names...but still not as odd as Felnyxia...
New Zealand became weird after the rise of atheism. It's time for banning a lot of things.
you are right, it is time to ban some things, like religon the root of all evil.
I mean, the de-christianized West cannot even name their babies normally.
Funny story:
My friend Katarina complained to me once with an odd problem. She was upset because she'd just gotten back from vacation, and she'd wanted to get one of those personalized key chains...you know, the ones on big racks where they have a bunch of names on them...she said she looked and looked and couldn't find anywhere that had a 'Katarina' key chain. I found this funny. When I see name key chains, I don't have a problem finding my name on there...my problem is that they're always sold out of it. I'd rather have a 'weird' name like Katarina than a name that's so common there are 6 others in your elementary school class that share it. Sarah is a nice name, but it's so common. With a name like 'Katarina' or 'Aelia', at least you know when someone's talking to you and not the other person sitting next to you with the same name.
I'm a guy and I would take Katarina any day over what I have now. I hope I survive long enough to get it changed, but it's going to take a while. I'm so happy to see governments stepping in to stop this stupidity.
My sister Cassandra usually had the same problem; and it's a classical Greek name, used in classic literature, and spelled correctly. It also gets pinged on by some Internet profanity-filters.
West, is your sister's name usually spelled Cbuttandra on those forums?
It's nice to see that societies are stable enough to worry about such pressing issues.
The need for conformity seems overwhelming here.
No kidding. I came here expecting to hear outrage at governemnts that would ban such a thing, only to find pro-government intervention everywhere. Sad. Some people go nuts over any perceived challenge to their rights, but give a baby a stupid name and they scream for the government to step in. Go figure.
Mephistopheles would be a better name than Lucifer.
faust is better though
Towel heads just call him mohammad.
Towel head vs. redneck white supremacist ... hmm, I can guess who would score higher on an IQ test. By the way, you might want to tell your wife, er your sister, that she needs to bring you your meds and a beer ...
Just where do these people think they get the right to force what strangers name their children? This law is absolutely ridiculous.
Well then, just name your child Edward but call him Dreckbottom: that should satisfy the authorities ... and ... give you the chance to play with your child's sense of self...
Elvis is a normal name. Just because one person made a name famous doesn't mean it suddenly becomes a strange name. What's next- Diana? Now if you named your kid Hercules that's another story...and yes I know someone who named her son Hercules. I really feel sorry for some of these kids. The parents have no idea what ridicule they're inviting into their children's lives.
Maybe we need an I.Q. test in order to become a parent?
Or maybe kids should be allowed to kill their parents if they don't like their names?
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Sorry, if an IQ test was required to become a parent, New Jersey's population would fall to zero.
Picabo Street
"Athlete, Olympic skier. Born on April 3, 1971, in Triumph, Idaho. Once one of the leading downhill skiers in the world, Picabo Street won several Olympic medals and championships during her career. She was known as simply “Baby Girl” for the first few years of her life and later ended up with the name Picabo, which is pronounced “peek-a-boo.” It was the name of nearby town, which comes from a Native American word that means “shining waters” or “silver creek.” See http://www.biography.com/articles/Street-Picabo-224926
Not sure how this ends up on the front page. Also written by Australian and Canada media, not even sourced by New Zealand media. Scrapping the bottom of the barrel if this is the sort of world news that is deemed important..
Personally, I can't imagine anyone truly beating up a "Lucifer".... for fear the child really was spawn of Satan himself.
True as it is that kids are brutal growing up,(who among us hasn't at some point been ridiculed for something even small?) I think the government stepping in to ban names is a bit much but then that is NZ, not the US. I'm not familiar with their freedoms. Put appropriate responsibility in naming your child their given name, then if you want to call them "FighterPilot" for their, moniker, fine. You are responsible for setting them up to get "pants" on the playground or shoved head first in a trashcan in middle school just so you can have what you consider a uniquely named child. Naming them isn't a joke, ya know. They aren't puppies.
Lucifer could go by Luc (pronounced Luke, of course)... it's so French. Hehe...
Can anyone tell me why this is major intl news for CNN. They should report on recent uncovering of nasty Israel spy case in New Zealand. Now that's relevant.
How about Osama? Are they banning that name too? Or Adolf? Jesus? Nimrod?
They should have their kids taken awy, come on, you cant be serious? Whats next, a list of accepted after-school activities? No football for girls, no dance for boys or they get taken away? And will these "taken away" children live? You think having a weird name is better than the foster system? Think before you speak, pigs, ideology imposed on others without consent is fascism.
How many Number 16 Bus Shelter's do you know?
Why did your parents name you Unknown? Where they unsure what to name you, and the nurse filling out your paperwork wrote in "Unknown"?
Wow – how outrageous – it is up to the parents to choose the names of their beloved babies, with very few obvious selections (all numbers like an anonymous email address). I find it absolutely lovely to hear truly creative names – especially the hollywood babies like Willow, Kingston, etc.
Governments all over are getting way too involved in our personal lives – Police States & Countries!
Thing is, there's "non-traditional" and then there's just stupid. If there are decent odds your kid will disown you and be forced to go by a different name, it's a bad name.
Weirdest one I've seen was pronounced, "LaDasha" and spelled La-sha
1. That's a joke / urban legend.
2. It would be spelled La-a if you were to pronounce "dash" to make is Ladasha.
Twins' names can be especially funny. A friend taught twin girls both of whom spelled their names "Regina" - one pronounced it re-GEE-na, the other, re-GEYE-na. Stupid, yes, but I don't think it should be against the law.
How about Arwen and Eowyn?
Literary names aren't usually the issue. True story – 15 years ago or so I met an elderly lady with the first name of Tennyson and immediately thought "That's awesome!"
It's the completely out-of-left-field monikers (Bus Stop #16), the idiotic misspellings and mispronunciations (I saw one story of a mother coming across an ad for Dior's J'Adore perfume and contemplating the name, pronounced Jaydoree), and the "let's saddle our kid with the most offensive name possible, then blame the world for our misdeed" crowd (I'm looking at you, potential parents of Satan Smith, Lucifer Brown or Adolf Hitler Jones.)
Congratulations New Zealand. Perhaps government will stop being intrusive when its citizens stop being stupid.
What's wrong with Lucifer? It just means "light bearer".
Just calling him mohammad like the towel heads do.
congrats to a country with gonads!
here in the US the names are totally rediculous and have no meaning whatsoever. The drug infested parents just string a bunch of letters together to be cute! What they don't realize, is that that name will come back to haunt you when you put a resume in to apply for a job. stupid stupid people!
What's wrong with funny names?
I think all children should be given a specific number code as their name. Then, at a specific age they will have to undergo a mental evaluation to see if they can change their name.
Mother: Hey! One zero zero zero one zero one one one! Stop that and get over here right now!
100010111: Nuuuuuu!!!!!
How will this effect cultural names, African names, Muslim names, historical family first names, etc.
No more Mohammad Mohammad Mohammad......etc.
Poor Ali.
This practice has been around in many countries for a long time! I was born in Switzerland and when my parents wanted to register the name they had picked out for me (a biblical name!) they were told that that name was not on the list of approved names, so it was a no-go. My parents then picked something else for the official first name, still called me the name they had picked out and I went to school with an official name and a name everyone called me. By the time I was 21 my (non-official) name was on the approved list and I was able to change my official name..... But the practice still exists today and when you see what some people do to their kids via their names, they absolutely should!
How about Suki Mi Johnson? Would that be ok?........Giggity Giggity Giggity.
WOULD IT BE NICE TO REVENGE YOUR PARENTS THAT GAVE YOU A WEIRD NAME. WE CAN CALLED GIVE THEM A NEW NAME SUCH AS CRACKED HEAD, BRAIN DAMAGE, AIR HEAD, OR DUMB AND DUMBER
I agree with New Zealand. There is nothing wrong with different and unique names that set a child apart. But some names cross the line. In Germany, it is illegal to name youd child Adolf, for good reason. Names are very significant and always define us. If you want your kid to be defined by where he was conceived, or what your current hobby was, or the fact that he was from the ghetto, go ahead and name your kid whatever, but if you want your kid to move beyond that, think for the future, not just where the kid is right now.
A great many blacks in the U.S. choose stupid names for their children before abandoning them. They give them names that will surely hamper their progress in life. How about Tweety? Yeah, you heard me right, Tweety.
Please explain how someone's name hampers his or her progress in life?? As far as I am concerned there is no correlation between someone's name and how well they do in life. The guy next door called "Ben Smith" (normal name) could a serial killer whereas "What_is_it_to_ya Thompson" (abnormal name) could a school bus driver. Now tell me wherein lies the correlation? Next time think before you type!
Thank You Rastafari! These people are idiots! They can't handle anything that interrupts the herding of the sheeple!
My parents were sensible enough to give me an unusual but not crazy name. I do think names made up of nonsensical consonant clusters or numbers should be banned, but not names that are just unusual. I also agree with the person who suggested letting people change their name once, when they reach a certain age. I really don't know what people are thinking when they come up with goofy names. They're setting their kids up for a lifetime of headaches, not to mention teasing. My rule is, if you're going to give your kid a crazy or even just unusual first name, at least give them a common middle name, so they can go by that if they want to.
Change your name if you don't like it! It's one of the many reasons why we have courts of law!
Really? Just simply change your name? Is that something a 10 year old, or a 15 year old, is going to be able to do? By the time you are able to change your name, you have had that name all through school and every one who knows you knows you by that name. I would think changing your name brings a whole new set of problems and hassles. And yeah, if you don't think that the kid growing up in school with the weird/ugly/bizarre name isn't perceived differently by the kids as opposed to the kids who have normal/cool/popular names, you are dreaming.
Another reason why government should stay out of the personal lives of people. Who are they to say what you can name your child. How stupid is that???
Spend the tax payer dollars on more important things and stay out of the family business!!!
I knew a woman who's name was Degina. You can't imagine what hell she went through in school. She's now doing prison time. Small wonder. What if some DR has stood up and NO, I won't sign this birth certificate with that name. Things might have gone a lot different for her in life. Instead, she ended up an outcast who did anything she could to survive.
Yes, cause her name is the reason she's in prison...not because she chose to break the law like so many other people with "normal" names! Moron!!
Or maybe she had really lousy parents and, even if her name were Susan, she would have ended up in jail because she didn't have a stable family life.
Plus, there are some really bad names that are considered "normal" and ,anyway, kids will find a way to taunt you no matter what your name is. I mean, would Bertha be a better choice? How about Gertrude? Gladys? There are plenty of "normal" names that are outdated and would be unbearable to have as a child.
Crystal is having a meth rant...lol...sorry could not resist...
Lucifer is banned ? That sucks.
Lucifer is not a bad sounding name & why allow religion into the mix anyway.
So lemme guess, awesome names like Zeus, Thor, Apollo, Rambo, Macho, Spartacus for boys, or Isis, Persephone, Charisma, or Alora Danon for girls are al NO-NOs, because they sound unique. Normal, boring, everyday, names like Mike, George, Jon, Mark, Susan, Gina, Mary, and Ana, are the ONLY names people can give their kids? BORING. Names don't have to be bizarre and embarrassing, to be unique. They can be also be inspiring and attractive.
This is a step in the right direction. Next, we need to stop people from naming their kids with rhyming names like Tommy, Bonnie, Lonnie, Ronnie, etc... We should also stop the blacks from naming their kids anything that ends in 'isha'
If Lucifer is banned then Mohammed should be also
My wife works as a maternity nurse so I hear firsthand all the weird names people come up with for babies. Personally I think the worst one yet is "Nevaeh" (heaven spelled backwards). If we're gonna ban certain baby names in the U.S., this is the first one that should be on the list. In second place, Addison.
I read an article many years ago that Pamela is a made up name. It was created by some author many, many years ago. Who knew?
With all the concern over violence, I guess my name will be next on the list, it's German and means "The Conquering people" or "Military might". Which is comical to me because I was also born under the sign of Leo, which means... "The ruling people" or "Mighty Warrior". I guess they would fear me as being some sort of anti-Christ or something. All I can say is... GROW UP AND GET OVER IT!
ONE OTHER THING... David, Samuel, Rebecca, and Abraham, etc. are all Bible names, used by religious people everywhere. So, Lucifer should be allowed by those that worship Satan. Fair is fair. Although, I wouldn't name my girl "Jezebel" just because I could.
Considering some of the ridiculous names some give to their children in the US—Precious, Sir, Blanket, etc.–I think New Zealand has the right idea.
Blanket is a nickname. The kid's real name is Prince Michael Jackson II. Which is dumb, too, considering there is no Prince Michael Jackson I. But he did it because his first son's nickname was Prince. Yeah... ol' Jackso was indeed Wacko.
Well, of course Prince is much better than Blanket.
They rejected "Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116" as first name. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
If this was in America, the lawyers would be queuing up.
What would the coloreds do if we implemented this rule in the US?
How many babies would have namesm like "Unwanted, Mistake, Accident, MisLaneus, Huzyourdad, Etc."
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What are these parents thinking? Who is going to address Supreme Court Justiice Lego, Messiah, etc? The US is just as bad. Putting a "La, Da, Jer", etc infront of english names to create a "new name" is only adding to the child's future issues in the world – espeically the job market.
Hey my first name is the same as the pig on Ma and Pa Kettle. But it's the middle name thats much worse. I won't even go there. My parents should have been kind and drowned me at birth. I often wished they would have.
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Well I guess that sure leaves out Pat, Bobby, Robin and a lot of other mainstream names!
I guess naming my kid Q after star trek character Q is out of the question....
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You are indeed ignorant. Why would you call blacks colored? White people name their children dumb names also.
I have an idea for everyone whose so concerned for the children with uncommon names who may be made fun of...how about everyone else teaches their children to be tolerant of others and to not make fun of things just because they are different!!! Problem solved right?!?! Don't you tell me that I can't name my kids what I want because other people can't handle it. This is like saying don't get your kid glasses, a hearing aid, or braces because the other kids will pick on them. Most of the people I know with uncommon names actually have a much better self worth and realize that their uniqueness is something to embrace rather than to be ashamed of. And I'd bet that anyone on here complaining that their parents' choice of name altered their self-worth, has way more factors contributing to this low sense of self-worth than their name...please don't use your unique name as a crutch for the real problems. I have a very common name (2 other Crystals in my class all through school as well as others in the school, and I live in a small town) and kids still found ways to pick on my name...amongst other things that were aimed at degrading my self-worth to make them feel they were worth more. The fact is that kids will find something to pick at no matter what, because that is what they've been taught. And it's usually the ones doing the bullying that actually have a low sense of self-worth...not the other way around. Your all so ignorant that you don't even realize how wrong your reasoning is. I guess we should all conform to what the majority wants because it makes everyone's lives easier...because being sheeple and being afraid of standing out from the herd is way better for all of our self-worths (sarcasm for those who can't detect it). It's going some when we're afraid to teach our kids to be individuals because someone might pick on them. YOUR inability to be tolerant and to teach your kids the same is not MY problem!!
Good. I'm glad government is deciding what people can name their names. Common citizens can't be given such a difficult task like choosing a name for their offspring. It should be a governmental organization which decides that.
We can't trust parents...we should just trust government and shut up.
Wow. It is hard to fathom any American thinking that the Government should be able to tell us what to name our own children. I thought we were fighting the terrorists to protect our freedoms? Maybe we should bring the troops home if we are just all going to voluntarily surrender them. I don't think parents should saddle their children with awful names. But I'm also against owning guns, watching p0rn and growing mullets, too and I'm NOT for banning them. I'm okay with letting other people make other choices. Be careful what you wish for. You may end up with a gov't that controls your life run by someone like me who would take away everything that makes you happy.
GOOD FOR NEW ZEALAND!!!!!!!! Parents should not have the right to make their children suffer by giving them weird names. There are people out there that would name their children these kinds of names. I would compare it to abortion. Parents shouldn't have the right to hurt their children.
A pal o' mine who is a teacher once had a student named "Tundra". At one point he told her, "...what an interesting name! That's the layer of permafrost above the arctic circle, right?" She indignantly screamed, "No it ISN'T! It's my NAME!"
if we passed this law in America all the people in hollywood and all the blacks wouldn't know what to do
Some of the names used in the U.S. are so weird that the poor kids can't spell them and there have been instances in which the parents forget how the kid's name was spelled on the birth certificate, i.e., Quinael X, Xuintrel, She'Undra, Ja'Damian, and so forth. Actually Seven might be a name a kid could spell.
I think it's a good idea to a point. They should add a clause that allowed the child once they turned 18 to either keep their name or change it (free of charge). I mean why should you be stuck with something that you've had no say in for the rest of your life?
Not going to happen because I'm in America and I children are no longer a possibility. But Bishop is a family name (my mother's maiden name) and by-golly if I want to name my "son" after his grandmother then I'm going to. Besides, if my "son" who would've been raised Catholic ever BECAME a bishop, he'd have a head start.
So Lucifer is out... how about Louis Cyphre (or if a girl, Louisa Ferre)?
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Good, those crazy Kiwis can't be trusted to name their kids it seems. For real. Remember Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii? Also a name out of NZ. Those guys are craaazy.
How about banning the name New Zealand?
What I think is weirder than the weird names is the New Zealand government telling parents what they can or cannot name their children. Exactly how does any government have the right to tell you what you can name your own kid? Explain that to me. Anyone that buys into that crap is an idiot.
Not 'Toronto Globe and Mail' just the Globe and Mail. It is a national newspaper.
I hope flagonoledurryole is OK. Have to change my boys name, otherwise.
dont you love the modern police state world we live in!
I once met a girl who said her name was Rwanda. I replied, oh, like the country. But it turned out she had never heard of the country of Rwanda. She spelled her name Rewanda, and her mother's name was Wanda.
This is a good thing. There is too much freedom in the world as it is.
You mean I can't name my kid Duke Nukem II? That sucks.
The only thing this thread displays is that we should be considering banning commenting and not how we name our children.
"Barack". Sounds like a noise I would make if I was puking.
Googus is what came out of your mama.
I am not a huge fan of government intervention. However, all of you people saying that they should just let the parents name their kids whatever they want aren't thinking about how that child is going to have to deal with that name. Kids can be cruel enough, but adding a strange name to the mix can just make the situation worse. A line needs to be drawn and there needs tl be more than one person making the rules. It cant be just one person, otherwise a nitwit who doesn't like the name Jason, (My sons name) will end up banning a perfectly fine name. Naming a child "AJSDJCHYBJADFIAUSHKVCJANCKAHKAUDSHFKJNRKCAXKJVCB" Prounounced Allen, should be a crime.
Sometimes even "normal" names leads to discomfort for kids.
I know of one girl named VIRGINIA; fair enough.
Problem was that her surname was SMELLY.
Now this is worthy work for Governmnet to be spending their time on. Who cares about the economy?
How about if parents give their child a reasonably "normal" name and if the child doesn't like it, he or she can change it at 18 to something weird of their own choosing?
While I don't like the government involved in our personal business, I do agree that some parents are being stupid and not thinking of the best interests of their child when they name him or her.
I live in New Zealand, and this girl I know named her baby 'Souljah'...SOULJAH!
I am all for naming regulations, and I'm pretty sure most New Zealanders would be too.
I'm a boy named "Sue" and proud of it.
Most people need to shut up for the rest of their lives.
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So... I guess Dweezil and Moon Unit are out? Frank would be crushed.
If Fareed Zakaria wasn't such an Obama supporter he would have some credibility, but since he does, it's hard for me to watch his show and all his guests that pretty much agree with him; what kind of once-sided discussion is that? They all parott each other. He refuses to acknowledge that the US is in real trouble and needs to cut, cut, cut until we can get control of spending. Once the US is on good footing, then we can revisit what can be spent where. Education is a good example of billions spentwith terrible results.
The name New Z..land is in itself wierd. It appears that they couldn't come to a consensus on naming their land and decided to put in a place holder 'Z' as a temporary solution.
Lucifer, Duke, Bishop, Baron, and Judge really don't seem that bad, I mean Lucifer even means light bringer (a good thing even if many people connect it with the devil), quite a lot of people are named Duke, Bishop, Baron, and the name Judge is even getting more popular in the United States. I just think this is stupid, now when you're in New Zealand and you have one of these names before it got banned (of course) people will most likely look down on you.
Name regulations may seem a good thing, but in the end it is not. Simply put, one person or even a board of people, should not be able to regulate what names are "proper", and which are not . by the way, the one who posted Kal-el as a bad choice by Nicholas Cage, I disagree, it is creative, and I think it's an excellent choice, given all the image is suppose to stand for, creativity should not be stifled, but there are no doubts that regulating name choices by parents would be one more step toward our never ending fall inot Government control. Sorry if you disagree, but freedom should be unlimited when it comes to personal choices.
So you can't be called "Refrigerator Judge Head" but you can be called "Osama Bin Laden" or "Adolf Hitler". In reality you call your kid whatever you like and tell the stupid authorities to F off.
I hate New Zealand.
There are heaps of unusual, unfathomable names being attached to newborns in New Zealand all the time. They are Maori names. I don't know anything really about Maori naming conventions, but I would presume they are governed by tribal traditions. Does the New Zealand government naming authority have any say in those names? I suspect there would be a massive outcry if they tried.
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God I wish my name was WizardKing.
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My kitten was named Dweezil, a perfect name for a sweet cat. He died too young( 11), but he'll never be forgotten.
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