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By Tom Mucha, Global Post
Truth is elusive. But it's a good thing we have math.
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Here's the big idea:
Many people — politicians and pundits alike — prattle on that China and, to a lesser extent Japan, own most of America's $14.3 trillion in government debt.
But there's one little problem with that conventional wisdom: it's just not true. While the Chinese, Japanese and plenty of other foreigners own substantial amounts, it's really Americans who hold most of America's debt.
Here's a quick and fascinating breakdown by total amount held and percentage of total U.S. debt, according to Business Insider:
So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion.
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Fareed, I am disappointed at you. How can you forget about India! We own the whole rest of the world.
India is the undisputed leader of the BRIC countries. India is the world's only super duper power after this economic crisis, and India is the world's greatest democracy. Here in Mumbai, there in Delhi, and there again in Pune, India shines while the world declines!
India's Tata has been lording over the world industries by purchasing such Western properties as LRJ and Corus, and making these former money pits a big success. Our Mittal has been overwhelming the world's steel makers by swallowing up Arcelor. Our mobile phones have been out-talking all other countries by growing 100 million users every quarter. Our architects had designed and finished the world's largest airport in Delhi in Terminal 2. Our engineers have built the world's greatest hydro dam. Our road builders had just completed the world's longest bridge in Mumbai. Our prime minister has been presiding over these big international meetings by sounding our voices over all these heads of all your minor states. Our super aircraft carriers have been patrolling the world's oceans and scaring all the Ethiopia and Somalian pirates off their pants.
For all these a million reasons, submit to your fate under our Hindu colossus, beg our 5-rupee meal middle classes, bow to our super powers.
Jai Hind!
well, so much for ghandi
what on earth is ghandi?
This FriendsofIndia guy is clearly a troll paki or CCP chinaman propaganda writer. The post is clearly making fun of India when unnecessary in an article that has nothing to do with INDIA. Can't believe you fools are assuming this guy is Indian.
What a dumkopf
Jimmy John is an Indian. Stop using American name. Who cares FriendsofIndia because he is an Indian.
Indians do have the name "Jimmy John". Keep in mind, 2.1% of India is Christian, and from the name, he hails most likely from the state of Kerala. I too am from India.
Hoffman, stop pretending to be Jewish. We all know your indian or paki and pretending to know it all.
Henry Chang, stop pretending you don't know third grade English. We all know full well that you know that your is a possessive pronoun and you're is a contraction for you are.
Who is ghandi? What an idiot!!!
I am tired of the whole mess! We should have term limits on the senate and congress. Also no more life time payments and no more life time insurance and so on, Also they should not be allowed to give them self's a cost of living increase. While the rest of this country struggles to get by.
And no more so called loans or grants to foreign country's while we have a deficit. No more!
Hi My Name is Peggy
yo 'steve kohlrieser' hes just pointing out that many americans dont have enough respect to spell GANDHI'S name right
No! My name Peggy! Everyone know you fake because you say "is".
that tickles. tickle, tickle, tickle.....
HOw do you not know who Ghandi is??????!!!!!!
Look at how India and the conservatives have dogged our country how they've raised the price on everything and as a seer know this ...those folk from India loathe Americans. ask them and read Bernard Jordan's books Written judgements
Funny , I always thought that ISRAEL was the one that owns AMERICA
This is a typical CNN article, presenting only slanted, fragmented facts of partial figures instead of the whole.
TC- It is "dummkopf" with2 m's- if you are going to post insults in german (or any other language) respectively, at least spell them properly.
@friendsofIndia India doesn't own much. No offense. Your either really really really poor, or your really really really really rich. So yeah India doesn't own most the world
do not forget to include the billion hungry souls living in shanty towns
Those hungry souls are called slumdogs. There are millions of them still have to go to toilets out in the open and use their bare hand to clean their azz after they finish.
By the way, if you want to know the correct way to finger your azz, you can ask Fareed Zakaria, he's an expert.
... and the "sacred" rats.
Even with functioning at 25% efficiency, and little FDI, India can cause so much acid reflux in this column's readers. Poor souls. Try Zantac.
Maersk is a Chinese propagandist. You can tell he is here kissing the CCP's balloon knot on every article about China.
This FriendsofIndia guy is clearly a troll paki or CCP chinaman propaganda writer. The post is clearly making fun of India when unnecessary in an article that has nothing to do with INDIA. Its not even written by Fareed who is not Indian, but American (since he refers to himself as American not Indian). Can't believe you fools are assuming this FriendsofIndia guy is Indian.
good one
I clean my hands with my tongue after wiping my a$s, so I was just pointing out some facts.
I love the comments made by all who have never ever gone outside thier state they live in, forget going abroad!!
I am from the US. I know MOST of the people here have no money to eat, forget anything else. They live off credit for those people who find it hard to even payback OR those that live off the dole out money. I have seen the filthy houses they live in, thrashed out everywhere, have no food on the table . To makeup the hunger, they eat cheap foods aka Junk foods and have become obese. The rst of the world.. do not be fooled by the lifestyle of the people here. example the great Trump, whgo trumpets around in his lifestyle but he is broke and filed for bankruptcy or the houswives of NJ, living in milion dollar mansion but have debts over 10 million. You think they will vere pay back, Never, MY foot!!
In India, you cannot buy anything without money. To eat, live or buy you require money. Most or all have Savings account not even for them but for the next three generations to come. The may live a normal ordinary life but never in DEBT! that's the beauty of living. I would say that applies to all of Asia too!!
Have you gone to a Mall recently to buy something? Most of the people here come for free heat or A/C, but come with empty pockets. Who are the actual customers? it's the Asians who keep the economy going.
Remember, over the last 30000 years back where records are available, there were only two countries in the world then and they still exist now. That is China & India. many came into existence and died inermittently. Even Alexander the Great nor Napolean were able to achieve thier dreams. Just getting the readers educated as most of them have not even passed high school.or some passed after the bars were lowered!!
I think there's a reason why India isn't mentioned in this article or most conversations involving super powers.
...and the Harlem.
Records have been available for 30,000 years!?! Wow, here I am thinking that Sanskrit was developed about 3500 years ago.
Which two countries were around when the Neanderthals still had a presence in Europe?
I think you never cleaned your arss. When you were a baby ask your mom how many times she fingered you to clean your arss.
Yeah, all across america thanks to the messes left by Bush/ Obummer. Mostly in Arkansas.
and the cool thing is, India figured all this stuff out all by themselves! YES! YES! I WILL bow to the multi trunked, 18 armed god of the medulla oblongata! Give me a hamburger made of cow this instant!
This FriendsofIndia guy is clearly a troll paki or CCP chinaman propaganda writer. The post is clearly making fun of India when unnecessary in an article that has nothing to do with INDIA. Its not even written by Fareed who is not Indian, but American (since he refers to himself as American not Indian). Can't believe you fools are assuming this FriendsofIndia guy is Indian.
Stupid PAKIS and stupid CCP brainwashed Chinamen need to learn to do something else other than insult India all the time.
max you are an asshold
Max-what a dumkopf
What is an asshold ???
@JCQueipo – What you are "holding" in your own hands or perhaps in your brains – thinking all the while it is gold. For the Gold, just dig in your nails a bit deeper – gimme a break .... ever heard of typos???
I am alpha and omega, I am Google knower of all knowingness noobs.
And yet India is home to over 40% of homeless people in the world
f-k now I'm confused....
You do not know your math or you would not come to this conclusion. Go back and start counting your 1,2,3.....
Just look under the bridge in NYC or any city ?? or maybe they cover themselves with cardboard boxes?
Have you been to shanty shelters around any block in your city??
Republicans will have the US looking exactly like India in no time at all.
They dont freeze in the dark.
India is a home of 400 Million homeless peoples. What a fun
yes it is
@ Mario if India is the home to those people, how can they be homeless you moron. Worried about the homeless, do you even understand the difference between a house and a home. House is just a structure, but home is a place where you live with your loved ones.
keep complaining....first the call centers went to India, then all accounting and tax business went to India, medical billing and transcription is gone to India already and now law firms are sending their research work to India....By the way, Jaguar and Range Rover went to India....when will US awake and realize that wonderland doesn't exist anymore here....
Tallest building is in Asia and Middle East, in fact there are bunch of tallest buildings but it is definitly not in US
Biggest oil refinery is not in US anymore
Biggest gold buyer is not US
US is not the most educated country anymore....
Property rate in US is down by 200% (my house in Chicago is underwater) whereas my appartment in India just got up by 150% in 3 years......
But we are the most obese country in the world and the best COMPLAINERS......cheers to that....
Sorry. been to India and China. BRIC: India is not even close to China's progress.
Indeed, but remember India started economic liberalization in 1992 and not 1978 like China. Both countries have similar growth rate now, but India is a decade behind China. On the plus side, India has a stable multi-party democracy and China does not, and India's economic growth is in services rather than in manufacturing like China.
Your statement attributes differences to timing. There may be more than that. The WHO credited Brasil and China with the greatest poverty and illiteracy reduction in the past 10 yrs. I surmise the trend has been gradual improvement for china. India in some ways went in the other direction, in the past 10 yrs the WHO said more people went into poverty. Also, India has a caste system making social mobility extremely difficult.
India made her own progress. China is an immitator, and a fraud.
China was ranked 3rd in patent filings based on 2008 data. India was nowhere in the list.
What imitator or fraud you talked about? India fits better to the profile you described.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_patents#Top_20_countries_in_2010
China rocks! its way more developed in its economy than India!
I think that India should serously care more about their people, which is why China and America are so much more advanced than India.
I teach in China and went to India last year. I much prefer India.
China is good at infrastructure but is not friendly. The education system is way behind. The prosperity is only for 20% of the population. No doubt the Tortiose.
India is friendly and they are teaching their children to think. Definitely the Hare.
@ChinaTeacher – you say you prefer India, but you just claimed them to be the hare in the race between the tortoise and the hare. You are aware that the hare lost that race, right?
However, it is good to see a few logical posts on the subject based on the rest of the things on this comment section. I just wanted to let ChinaTeacher know they may have meant that the other way around if their actual preference was indeed India. But also remember, it is governments that worry about the race. Most of us citizens of the countries within these governments just want to live peacefully. We don't care as much about the race as we do about enjoying the scenery and learning as much about those around us, and the world as a whole. Unfortunately, people seem to be eager to belittle others and show that they shouldn't have much of a voice in any free system of government or life itself. Maybe it's they who should go to these places they dislike and learn tolerance and the value of others.
Why don't the Indians and Chinese duke it out and settle this once and for all?
GAYHIND, i think u just watched James Bond movie from 1965.....wake up buddy, the same kid who used to eat rock is now working at IBM India and is making more money than 70% of us Americans
All this might to scare away a few pirates??? Ha Ha HA!!! Go chill out with a glass of fermented cow urine (your national beverage of choice) and then kiss the Chinese back.
You do not sound civilized! Why is that so? Slow to hop on the wagon?
Americans drink Beer and never anything else. Round the world, they have a name for them and it's PANZIES!. it's reserved for them.
Real men drink Whisky!!
can we all just get along!
Real men don't have to say they're real men.
WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS? WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS?
also, dude who says real men drink whiskey? i beg to differ, with the example of Most Interesting Man in the World. Case and Point.
Jimmy john f#k you slumdog millionaire, you are nothing but a dumb pakii
《山海經》有記載，在神州和東海蓬萊之間有一座海底仙山，隋唐以來，日本、高麗循海路來中原進貢的使臣和留學生，以及唐、宋、明、清歷代東渡扶桑的中華人士都目睹過蘇岩，並留下文獻記載，歷史古籍更確認蘇岩礁屬於中國無誤。
清末民初，中國的地質學、地理學進步後，專家更證實蘇岩礁位於東海大陸架上，是中國大陸海床的一部分。
它位於中國領海和二百海里專屬經濟區內，是中國領土，外國無權在蘇岩礁上建築前進基地，更無權在其周邊海域開採石油，霸佔該島礁就是侵犯中國領土主權的完整
宏觀來看，朝鮮半島狹小，三面環海，朝鮮人自古就有「北拓精神」，向與中國接壤的北部拓邊移民是擴大疆域的唯一選擇，近代在日據朝鮮時期，朝鮮邊民越界到偽滿洲國吉林一帶開墾，就是一例證；
那以後，韓國開始向東拓展領域，在日本海與日本爭奪獨島，採取先佔原則，日本居下風，韓國成功開闢了東疆。如今，韓國又開始擴張南疆的領土，強硬而迅速先佔為主。
從微觀看，韓國想將蘇岩礁築成人工島，而後根據國際海洋法，在中國東海、黃海圈出一塊相當於法國大小的一片海域，屬於韓國，目的是劫掠東海漁業礦產，覬覦海底石油資源。
中國失去蘇岩礁後海域縮小，大面積海洋國土淪喪，東海和黃海與韓國對半分都分不到，空域也被連帶壓縮，防空識別區拱手讓給韓國。
漁民丟失漁場，漁業發展受到制約，海軍只能在沿岸近海游弋，成了海岸巡邏隊，最重要的是海底石油財富全給韓國人搶去了。
You forgot the worlds largest river of poo
now thats funny
Uhm, the latest figures for India puts it at one seriously impoverished country. There may be gains in economy, but there are still so many poor Indians it will never really "shine" as you say it will until it takes care of that problem first. Most of the country is slum-like and awful.
you've obviously never been to india. most of the country is not "slum-like" or "awful". india is a beautiful country. reports of poverty in india by western media are grossly exaggerated to downplay the progress india has made.
Xman you are an ugly chinese
i agree with u, most developed world tend to undermine the progress of the developing world, by means of propaganda which is very unhealthy, Africa is seen by them as a country with states namely South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, Egypt, etc what a shame that it should be persived so. Point of correction South Africa is a Country on its own same goes to Nigeria, Egypt, Ghana, etc
This countries are not infested with desease like they are painted, most times news about Africa is Famine in Ethiopia or war in Sudan,etc why cant u guys for once praise the strives of these people who are been exploited everyday. The world cup 2010 was held in South Africa to make a difference, you can actually have a wonderful time in Africa for her hospitality and freedom. Africa will surely rise!!!!!!!!
For me India wins hands down. The people are more educated and yes, there is poverty but there's poverty in China , too. It's just more hidden. Many people in the countryside have very little money or food. That great development you see in Beijing and Shanghai hasn't reached them yet. The level of greed is alarming. Putting poison or other dangerous things in food so you can make more money? People have no morals. Maybe I'd get stomach bugs in India that would last a few days but never worry about poison or other awful things in food.
dude is obviously a chinese troll. As are many othets posting here.
And LMAO at the chinese who say they own the USA. It's all there for you to see.
You must be another world famous slumdog whose expertise is in fingering azz with your bare hand.
not sure he's any more of a troll than u or anyone else, and if he was i'd think pakistani. BTW – i don't hear anything from the chinese saying they own us... but I do hear it a lot from ourselves, this fear is all internally derived.
Nope, the people saying "China owns us" are Chinese posing as Americans. They're trying to brainwash us but they're really bad at math.
Haha...just kidding. I know all about slumdogs, because I used to be one. I still like to finger my anus and then lick my fingers.
Doubt. This article is written for the very reason that many Americans feel china owns us when they don't. This article was not written in reaction in belief of phantom trolls (which is the same kind of paranoia as them owning us)... and to think their trolls bother to post here IN SUPPORT of our common misperceptions is silly. (If anything they probably post in their own nation to sway domestic opinion which is far more important, just like us since when do we care what foreigners think)
So how many of you think a debt obligation is exactly the same as owning the country? Did the U.S. put a lien against actual land for any of this money? Nope.
Maersk stop trolling and grow up. nobody would do what you suggest, not even people living in slums. so get out.
Arrogant enough to make you Sikh.
Welcome to the internet John.
FriendsofIndia is what we commonly refer to as a Troll.
actually the "federal reserve" (nothing federal about it though) owns and controls the most of our national debt and that group is comprised of private bankers from mostly israeli and european backgrounds.
And you got that from where? I checked your source and 143% of his statistics were made up.
it is true the most of the debt is owned by the federel reserve bank that is controled by foreign owned jewish/zionist central banks in europe.
Most of our national debt is owned domestically by Social Security, US investment funds, and US cities, counties and states. US Treasury also owns a large amount. About 30% is foreign owned.
They are european..try the Rothschild family you dopes!
If the Americans left zionism to rot in hell, the US would save trillions of dollars! Thank god my country isn't a zionist puppet! Be proud of your black-zionist president Obama! LOL!
What does Fareed have to do with this article? He didn't write it!
The slumdog just assumed that this article was written by Fareed
and despite of all these achievements (don't know how many of these are real) you low lifers worship animals.
India will only dream of glory. Glory is never conferred upon idolators, racists and perverts. Here's another list of India's achievements which you conveniently overlokked:
1. Contry with the highest incidents of HIV positive and AIDs cases = India
2. Asian Country with the greatest disparity of wealth between haves and have nots = India
3. Country with highest concentrations of slums close to urban areas = India
4. Country where caste system is still strictly practiced and enforced = India
5. Country where minorities are routinely harassed and their places of worship demolished or despoiled = India
6. Country who's looking into space and high tech. while a huge chunk of its population remains malnurished and resorts to eating rats = India
7. Country with the highest number of cessationist movements = India
8. Among the countries with worst record of human rights abuses in places like Kashmir, Assam and Punjab = India
and the list goes on ....
worship animals? srsly get ur head out of ur A$$ plz.
They not only worship animals, but they act like animals themselves.
Can you complete the lsit, please?
..and where are you from? Saudi Arabia?.. And thats better than India. Well good 4u
Moron....keep making up the figures and killing each other in the name of so called religion......u r like the Ostrich who wud dig its head into the mud and think the world is like they think it is....ha ha....no matter how much u write wrong about India , the fact is that u urself belong to the medieval rituals where in one has to kill others to survive...pity that people like u now have access to internet but that still does not change ur views about the world and the progress....
STFU , by the way are you arab??
Al – another pig dog
You are seriously deranged.....I am from India and I can tell you a couple of things straight off the bat:
Minorities are treated normally in India (Nothing special)....each community has its own space to do its own thing.
In Democracies all over the world (including your US) there are people who think they will have it better if they could splinter the country....these weirdos have not been successful in all this generations (India and China have been around since the start of time....they are still around pretty much intact even today....countries have sprung up and died all around).
NOBODY EATS RATS....humans who eat rats...DIE!!
Since India is the most populous country after China....it has all the diseases including AIDS.....as a percentage of population...it is not significant...
You definitely must be frust who is living off dole to make weird comments about a country you know nothing about!!
You forgot place where they trow away their mothers and grandmothers after it becomes economically convenient, which iis pretty quick.
India is still evolving as a nation, just as the US is still growing and evolving as a nation. As long as people look at these issues from a SUBJECTIVE viewpoint rather than an OBJECTIVE point of view, we will continue to suppress our own freedoms. Really it doesn't matter about the individual country - it could be any country - no quite possibly EVERY country. Wrong is wrong and as long as we individuals out there complain about a problem rather than fix it, there will be plenty to complain about. We expect everyone else to take responsibility when the ball is dropped - someone MUST be held accountable. These statistics should motivate us not separate us. Knowledge is power. So use it research it . Be the change you want to see. We allow this wasteful spending by allowing bills and laws to displace our choices. When you aren't paying attention to your surroundings and your history and make it a priority to LIVE with your freedoms and the ability to have choice. Who are you to ridicule and downgrade a nation because of their social and economic pitfalls when we have plenty and some to spare here in America. Which is exactly why one sided thought processes cannot be used to comprehend and evaluate information. Every bit of information in regards to our countries economic disasters should be used to PREVENT and ERADICATE future preventable detriment. EDUCATE yourselves reach a higher understanding about what these implications mean for the whole of US. US like you and me and them and yours and theirs. Apathy is the world's genocide. Refresh your memories of civilizations past. We are much more evolved than our forefather's but our goals have become convoluted and forgotten. Wake up
check out the above link.
this is what is Indians are all about, this survey is not taken by an Indian
yes we are slum but we are not lying down beach with our girl friends, most of our people are poor by wealth not by mind . If you want to know what is "UNITY IN DIVERSITY" come here to India
you know every indian is working for his country, stop posting these kinda silly comments abt India.
What is wrong with lying down on a beach with your girlfriend?
This is a straight insult to the life, liberty and structure of living for the US Citizens. There are people who are law abiding citizens and they work hard for their truthful living. You expect them to be owned by someone else? They can understand the strategic connection between and the support for ISRAEL and most feel like the majority of the ownership for the United States is held by Israel.
However, that does not give rights to anyone to state that my property belongs to someone else. I'd like to see that. I own my property and I am 100% owner of my part of United States of America.
You need to learn reading comprehension, my mildly retarded friend. No one said that anyone owns a percentage of your personal property. You are an idiot for making this nonexistent connection. The table merely shows who owns the federal debt. In other words, of the nearly 14.3 trillion dollars in federal debt, x% is held by the party listed on that line. They are the government's creditors, not a lien holder on your private property.
On a side note, you are living proof of what is wrong with public education. As for your statement that you have sole ownership of your part of the U.S., think again. If the government really wanted your property for something they deemed necessary, that can take it from you whether or not you like their cash offer. It's called "imminent domain". Very few property owners ever win such cases when they are disputed.
Actually, it's called "eminent domain." Subtle, but important distinction...
You only have one aircraft carrier, and its a refitted Russian carrier. Nice try.
I think this message was posted by "Enemies of India". The comment was to invoke negative messages about India – most probably by a Pakistani...
I agree.
gosh... u and ur obsession with pakistan!
i agree
Any similarity between you and a human is purely coincidental!
India a super duper power and greatest democracy?!?!?!?!?!?!? ahahahhahahhahahah!!!!!!!! You people still practice slavery for crying out loud!!!!!!!! India can't touch China.
u r right. India can not touch China in it's top hand to beg, make faulty products and be the cold killers of the mankind!
@vg – India also can't top China in terms of military, political, or economic influence.
India doesn't want to touch any inappropriate place.
India is a civilized democratic country than America. In US, there is slavery which continues against black.....also racism....
Don't EVER underestimate India. They ARE on the move! As an American I can say I do believe THEY will outlive and surpass the U.S. in almost all aspects. They may still have many characteristics that are not pretty. But is there such thing as a perfect marriage? They do still strongly believe in many morals and values we ourselves gave up long ago. I think they care for and regard one another much higher than Americans. Americans can't wait to screw their neighbor and his wife for their own satisfaction. I am disgusted with what I see, feel and live here as an American. What? If I don't like it then leave? Don't worry, I'm working on it. Hoping to get out of dodge before our self destruction is in full swing.
Racism? India no longer has castes and untouchable, I suppose? Every country has racism. It is pretty dumb all around.
Well, I am from India too. Majority of the facts you have mentioned are not correct like those of the longest bridge, largest airport, etc. Get your stats and facts right ! Well, it might be true too that US doesn't owe anything to India or might be of negligible amounts or may be even clearing up each other accounts by mutual payments, etc. And for the rest, Cow urine used to be an ancient practice and its believed to be used as herbal medicine. We don't eat cows coz that's in our religion as its same as equivalent to eating your mother. We regard cow as mother only because she gives you her milk to drink after your mother stopped giving you milk to drink ! So, a living being giving you milk to drink for rest of your life and asking for nothing in return, that's how you payback ?!?! Ever thought of making a steak or burger from your mother ?!?! Could you ?!?! Ofcourse not, so stop making fun of other religions, we have no rights to insult other religions. Respect each other belief ! Talking about the poor, Give me a name of 1 nation who doesn't have poor people ??? Every nation has poor, middle class and rich ! Did you know US has every year over 3.5 million homeless people added to the list list of homeless and out of which 3% of those have HIV/AIDS. But yes, there are differences between US and India which is simply because US is a developed nation And India is developing. Also, China is ahead of India in the league of BRICS.
Peace ~
Additionally, There are high chances since those facts have been put by friendsofindia are JUST to evoke hatred and racism. He doesn't seem to be an Indian person. As all the facts he has mentioned are not true, as any Indian might have known the true facts. He's more likely to be an Indian in disguise > probably a PAKI ROT ! These ppl have doing doing plenty of these kinda disguised hatred towards India, Indians all over the CNN.
He is almost certainly a Pakistani that is upset with the US for withdrawing military and financial aid while establishing a closer relationship with India. India still has some work to do, but it's clear that you are on the right path.
This "FriendsofIndia" guy cannot be an Indian. As an Indian, I have to agree with PeaceLover, we are a developing country and the facts presented by "FriendsofIndia" are not true. He is just a disgusting poster who is trying to evoke hatred towards Indians. Please ignore his ridiculous post. If he is a Pakistani, which I believe he is, I don't have to say anything about his country, because the whole world knows about it.
or perhaps he was born under a bridge AKA Troll
Who are you dude to speak for all Indians? Muslims and Christians and many Hindus eat beef in India. Only some ultra-conservative Hindus still think that cow is like a mother. What a stupid argument! Eat whatever you want... pork, cow, vegetables... who cares! And even if the guy who posted it originally is a Pakistani, why call him Paki? Isn't that racist? BTW, Indians and Pakistanis are both in the same boat when it comes to poverty. Do not try to earn brownie points by saying Indian poverty is better than Pakistani poverty!
lol how the hell you going to comparea a cow with your mother. anybody that believe in animals being god's are as stupid as those that believe in god's. im atheist, so hell with all this.. .
With all the filters CNN has, how come someone is using my name. My name is Ram and I did not post the below -Ram reply.
u are really stupid!
Indian or Paki in disguise?
Did it occur to you that FriendsofIndia might be an American or Arab or some other nationality? Or maybe you are just high on cow-cola.
It must be a Chinese urine drinking, Arab faeces eating Paki.
Awesome sum up man!
@FriendsofIndia: Nice try there masquerading like an Indian. Do Pakistanis like you have to stoop so low to instigate comments against India. Why do Pakis hate Fareed Zakaria so much? Just bcoz he is muslim, do u expect him to support your terrorist friends?
Well, nice to see Paki muslims selling their soul & posting here as Hindus & Americans. May be this is what their religion has taught them – to lie ("taqiyya" anyone?) & may be they are ready to sell their mothers & sisters if need arises. They might post all dubious facts about India under an article tht is not even related to India or written by Fareed Zakaria (whom they hate).
But the truth is that in real world they are hated by every country in the west. In real world, they shamelessly pose as Indians (as reported by Reuters) so that they are not hated by everyone ( link: goo . gl / hq0iI) , but under these forums they masquerade as Indians, Hindus & Americans & post fraudulent facts about India that have their origin only in Paki hate sites. Seriously, are there more shameless creatures on the surface of the earth?
Google the Reuters article "Pakistanis pose as Indians" to see how shameless these creatures are!
Please be respectful to others. You have no right to talk about someone's mother or sister... Why hit below the belt?
If you think it was a Pakistani who posted that while pretending to be an Indian, just say so and leave it there. You cannot prove that he is Pakistani, can you? And isn't it true that there are millions of illiterate and under-educated people in BOTH India and Pakistan who think exactly like what he said?
Of course they stoop low, they aren't at your level. I see these comments against Indians all the time and the majority are Pakis like this phuckstick . It's the most foul nation on earth, that follows the most foul religion on earth. Doesn't matter, they're backwards, their government has been overthrown three times in less than sixty years. Pakistan is joke nation, Iraq is more stable than these losers.
India is abutifull country only if you get indains out of India .
But can you afford or even manage to fight 2 wars at the same time and STILL make that claim? Nope.
India reminds me of the Palins. A stinking, filthy, putrid pile of phucking trash.
ummm ... India needs to figure out how to keep the lights on.
I'll be impressed with India when they learn to make matches. Person would be lucky if you can get 1 out every 5 match to light. I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how in hell they managed to build an atomic bomb.
hey......i think you really don't know anything about India. it is one of the oldest civilization of the world. even when in your country people were living in open we had homes, when you were eating animal meat(raw) we were having cooked meal..even our language, religions and culture is the most ancient in the world. all the major discoveries in field of science, medicine, maths and arts were originated from India....rest if you can refer the books you can find everything including that many of your language(English) words came from our mother language 'Sanskrit'.......
People.....when it gets down to it we have the best weapons by far and are the only country to have "global projection". One Trident 2 submarine can literally kill a continent. We own the GPS system. It is ours. America ROCKS!
Time to move back to India ...
Bud, Lets smoke some more of what you have been smoking.
I'm an Indian but am disgusted by what this so called "FriendsofIndia" has written! His arguments, logic, facts, and grammar are all perverted. After more than 60 years of independence India is still struggling to feed and clothe its people, and provide education, housing and healthcare to the teeming millions. Widespread corruption eats away the major portion of government spending and social security is non-existent. While India has certainly made a lot of progress in many areas it is all really a drop in the ocean. If you are an Indian the only time you can truly be proud of it is when her people have education, housing, electricity, drinking water (and yes, toilets!), healthcare and dignity of life. Not when Tata buys JLR or Tetly! Unfortunately a large population also means a large number of idiots, who even get to read CNN.com and post stupid comments.
I so agree with you, Ram. India's economy is growing by leaps and bounds, but cannot be proud of itself till the opportounities for safety, shelter, sanitation and education are availabe to ALL citizens. WIth all the wealth and the brains of Inidan entrepreneurs and scientists, why hasn't there been better progress made to elevate the daily quality of life for every Indian regardless of caste or ehnicity?!
This information about mighty India sounds impressive – unless you've been to India and seen the reality of the situation. The airport in New Delhi is complete and total chaos, as is everything else on the Sub-Continent.
Indians can claim and over-claim many things. But there's one thing India has not got, a language of her own, that Indians can use within and outside India. Could Indians be proud with Hinglish as her national and official language?
Of course, you have Hindi and some more, but Indians seem to despise thier own languages.
Do you even know what you are saying Deng's Cat because you speak without knowledge.
English and Hindi are actually related they belong to the Indo-European group of , in fact all European languages and most north Indian Languages belong to the same family. They share a common ancestor because the people who now live in Northern India and the people who now live in Europe were driven by climate change 4-5000 years ago from the steppes of Russia to Europe and India, in fact the precursor to Hindi is Sanskrit. Latin and Sanskrit shared a lot of similar words because they existed at the same time and are related. This is why some words that occur in French, English and German and in Hindi are the same.
FriendsOfIndia who elected you to make such remarks? First we Indians have to walk before we can run and even when we do eventually run I hope you have the humility to not make a braggart's remarks and speak for me and the rest of us who are Indian and nothing like you.
A successful country or person doesn't need to shout to the world about it ... as doing that is quite vulgar.
To Sudhir, yes you have more knowledge than I. You say Hindi is related to English, so Indians can drop Hindi and opt for English. Following your logic and argument, Americans can throw away English and opt for German, Spanish or French as all European languages are related.
As an American I used to favor India as they tended to be more western-minded and Indian leaders certainly could speak eloquently and tell a convincing story. But in the past few years it became apparent to me that Indians do that and nothing more than that – talk. The emprical evidence seems repeatedly favor China. China has been delivering results time after time, rather than endless promises and political bickering from India.
yet one is authoritative and the other is democracy ...any person with some material in his head would opt for democracy though the development is slow "you need to know that there is a country in Asia called Bhutan which recently turned a democracy and they don't have GNP"gross national product "where china will obviously come first but have GNH"gross national happiness" where for sure china for that matter US will figure in bottom 50 .......majority of Indians and Bhutanese may be poor but they are much happier than the Chinese and the Americans
Nobody thought that China owns America. Huge numbers of Chinese are living without toilets and running water today. I hope the RICH clean up the mess in China instead of buying $2m dogs.
Ill just point out one thing about that rant....India currently has exactly 1 carrier in service...and its hardly a super carrier (carrying approximately 1/3 as many aircraft as the US nimitz-class and being less than 1/4 the size...its designated as a light fleet carrier.. it also is the last of its class in service anywhere...obsolete anyone?)...its a converted British carrier (centaur-class) commissioned in 1959...and transferred to India in 1987...3 years after it exceeded its initial estimated service life of 25 years...India is currently building one of its own carriers (vikrant-class) and it should be operational within a year...they also bought a russian carrier that is expected to enter service in 2 or 3 years
India is not building It. Russia is refitting it for them and guess how much they have paid so far for this Junk?? Originally it was for $2 Billion and so far russians managed to get more than $3 Billion out of Indian Pockets. and still not yet completed. The Newest US Carrier Ronald Regan Costed USD * Billion to built which is almost the double the size of Admiral Granshankov which india is getting.
Actaully Indians are the world's Most illtelanted people. Ho many Medal they managed to win in Last Olympic with their huge population?????
This "FriendsofIndia" guy is either Paki or Chinese pretending to be an Indian. There is no way this guy is Indian. Get a life dude...
That guy is 100% Indian. Only Indian brag about TaTa's 100% debt financed purchase of British companies. Nobody else cares, just another LBO.
Definitely a Paki. internet comments are their sole source of self esteem given the crap hole country and culture they have to live with, really sad actually but no pity for those creeps.
Hey porkistani watch out for the US drone might bomb your Mama's a**
Dude don't give them the heads up, let him croak along with all his other brethren who follow that pedophile bedouin prophet of theirs.
@JT: you are an ignorant person
Stop smoking pot fool! I have lived in India for more than a decade and I can describe the country in two words 'trash can.' Every street in India is full of fecal matter, trash and mosquitoes. Do you know that drinking water gets mixed with fecal matter during monsoon season in most cities? Most projects you talk about are accomplished by companies with foreign collaboration. The IT industry is all about back office work (not a single product that shows innovation). Hell, India can't even beat terrorists. These terrorists who walk into India from Puki land kill innocents like some firing range practice. The infrastructure you are so proud of was built in US couple decades back. Oh wait, India is still building its first fighter aircraft. Now, when was the first fighter aircraft developed by US???? It is so far back that I can't even recollect.
With $1.7 trillion economy, India is atleast 25 years behind US. Superpower might just remain a wet dream if all India wants to do is produce cheap products and every kid on the block wants to do MBA. Do some R & D. China & US are way way ahead on patents. Get some life fool!
Indians are the world's worst computer programmers. Russians are the best.
Obviously you have not lived in India and you are just another racist troll who is making stuff up. I have lived in india my whole life and I know this as a fact. Ignore this guy.
India has made Aids bomb and by accident it expoded in India itself. Their Jet Fighter Program is like their indeginous Tank Program which is now in gutter after 20 Years of R&D. Offcource they are good at corruption, killing minorities. One thing they are still preparing their selve to defend themselve from Pakistan not from China.
your green revolution will flat line and you will all starve to death. theres only so much fertilizer and water in your aquifers and you drained them beyond repair and its unsustainable. your the next ethiopia
You idiots killed all your tigers...nice going...
I cannot believe so many of fell for this obvious effort to annoy by this troll. People are really gullible.
indians look like poop...and smell like it too
seriously, WORST. BO. EVER
=D
India is just an immense SLUM. Over a million people drink out of the sour. SOUR! they drink that "blue water". The population dump corpses on their main river in New Dehli, including people. Animals, people and you can also people EVACUATING along the river which cross the city. Immense inequality, cast society, tens of tens of different languages, inflation and inexistent infra-structure. The islands of prosperity just can't promote growth for long with such mess. And we still have to hear Zacharia talking: "India this, india that..." who do you guys think you fool? India is maybe the most disgusting nation of the globe, except the worse in africa...a couple nations there....
Have you even been to India? clearly not. India is not a huge disgusting slum as you portray it. If you actually came over and saw all the great cities and beautiful parts of the country you would change your opinion, but until you have, stop badmouthing a place you know nothing about.
My friend was recently in India for 3 months to train their progarmmers. He told me that that whole country is like a trash can and he would never go there again!!
Don't forget toilets. India needs at least 900,000,000 toilets.
ditto!
Hey. this is ditto word-by-word what last week the ISI propoagandists telecast on Pak State TV to scare the hell out of Pakistanis in order to defend their 95% military budget.
wondering how come some FriendofIndia came across this crap?
Even with functioning at 25% internal efficiency, and 10% FDI of China, India is the 2nd fastest growing economy. Why on earth will it invest in the US economy? Leave China to sink or swim with the US. India is better off investing on its own people.
You conveniently forgot to mention that 40% of the population are born, raised , get married, and die on your filthy streets
So what do want, a Dilly Bar? As far as I am concerned the U.S does not need to be #1 in everything around the world. That's what has gotten us into the mess we are in. What we need to do is eliminate the amount we owe foreign countries and concentrate on what is truly important to the people of the U.S. Being #1 in who did what is not it. The foreign debt and the dependence on oil are major National security issues. The rest is just rhetoric for the fool.
Well, who cares about India? No one talks about India.
India is trying so hard to be noticed, but the world always ignore India
"Shadow of China"
India has a looooooooooooooong way to go but it can call itself a superpower of any kind.
lol. I love India. India is a great nation and it will be years to come. I am not sure why India is not up there as an investor to the US. I like to see India to be very successful b/c it will show that a population over 1B can be successfully governed by a democratic government unlike its neighbor to the north. I really wish US starts to trade more with India.
This FriendsofIndia guy is clearly a troll paki or CCP chinaman propaganda writer. The post is clearly making fun of India when unnecessary in an article that has nothing to do with INDIA. Can't believe you fools are assuming this guy is Indian.
This FriendsofIndia guy is clearly a troll paki or CCP chinaman propaganda writer. The post is clearly making fun of India when unnecessary in an article that has nothing to do with INDIA. Its not even written by Fareed who is not Indian, but American (since he refers to himself as American not Indian). Can't believe you fools are assuming this FriendsofIndia guy is Indian.
Stupid PAKIS and stupid CCP brainwashed Chinamen need to learn to do something else other than insult India all the time. Seriously.
ok, lets assume this FriendofIndia is a paki troll, or a CCP from china, what about the rest of the posts on this page? ppl speaking the truth are paki trolls and chinamen, whereas the rest are indians?
face it... noboby likes ur slumdog nation. and u can do nothing abt it. chill, have a cow-cola!
China is a developing country，American is the biggest country in the world.
please do not think China is stronger.
Shutup towel head.
India a democracy? Are you kidding me? India is a dictatorship. Are you trying to fool the world? Did you forget what happened recently with the India Guru Ramdev's movement against corruption?
Only if Indians knew the difference between Growth and Inflation!
And MILLIONS live in absolute squalor in India, even in the cities. Mumbai, a 5 star Hilton hotel across the street from the airport. And adjacent to it, a valley of makeshift slum villages where people sleep on dirt. How can FriendsofIndia claim life is so great and India such a power, when their people live like animals?
You are either a Paki or a Muslim who hates India.
And yet you guys all smell funny!? whats up with that? buy some armpit sticks!! its a couple bucks at the dollar store!
oh yeah i almost forgot, you guys are the largest racists people in the world! and the worst because you even hate on your own people!
Wow buddy, narrow sighted much? I hope everyone in India is not as ignorant as you. There are other things going on in the world you know
The dollar amounts say nothing. Population explosions say everything.
India, for political reasons, is having a population explosion, so it will suffer in the long run.
China is lowering its population, if fast enough, it may survive.
America panders to people with lots of children, although others do not have children, it is mainly suffering from population problems.
However, if America just goes the way of Canada, only paying back its own citizens, then America's recession will only last a few years, and then we will again regain the number one position in the world. But it will take a concerted effort to throw off the multi-national corporations, the trade imbalances, the foreigners siphoning off of us, and tax the rich out of this country. I would say good riddance. We are supposedly a democracy in America, and we can invent a new monetary system; goodbye to the private bank-owned dollar.
FriendsofIndia, first of all this article was written by Tom Mucha of Global Post and not by Fareed, secondly I agree with your article completely, but inspite of Indi a's accomplishments today, Indians have to be humble according to Gandhi's legacy, because in humbleness you rise more and more, but remember in prideness comes downfall sooner or later, had Fareed written this article he would have definitely mentioned India.
Paki troll.
but your slums are still worse than any in the US
It's such a wonderful country, shame about its decrepit infrastructure (road, rail, air), sporadic power outages, pervasive corruption from top to bottom. Oh, did I mention that vast majority of its citizens are in severe poverty.
India has quite a bit more to go before claiming outright greatness.
First, I am from India... and I love my country with every fiber in my heart. Second, I like to read a few reactions in comments section in news articles, but I have myself never posted one before anywhere. But I don't know why, I just cannot resist replying to your post today.
As I see MY India, I have no ambition for India to become any freaking superpower. I only wish for India to play its part in building a better world for itself and everybody else. And who the hell am I to have anything against China, Pakistan, US or any other country, for the truth is that it is only a few, and they are on every side, who are misguided and will do wrong. Most people everywhere are just fighting for that same thing – some little freaking happiness.
If I read your post closely, I realize that you have something against India and are writing only to spread hatred against my country for some reason. You may also believe that you are doing some great service to your own country, but go and ask that hungry man in your own country who is fighting to feed his family just one more day and he will tell you that you have done no service except spread more bloody hatred. Sir/ Mam, please use all that motivation in you to make some freaking positive difference in somebody's life somewhere out there. And, while you are at it please get some more sleep at night instead of posting such comments and let me get some sleep as well!! Thanks n TC!
people please dont listen to this idiot. he is just a jealous and desperate pakistani troll trying to make indians look bad. i am definitely proud of the humble progress india has made but we are nowhere close to the developed world. millions of indians still live under poverty line and in slums and india is still on the lists of diseases and whatnot. i hate china but i have to admit they are atleast 25 to 30 yrs ahead of us. if anybody thinks India can stand upto the west(they can in lot fo ways but not many) just open your eyes and look around your neighborhood and look at the standard of living in the west and US. its sad but indians will not have those standards in another 100 yrs.
You are clearly making a mockery, by inviting people to take shots at India
You're not Indian, are you?
China is one of the top 3 international tourism destinations in 2010 and soon will be surpassing the United States. China cannot be the bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings
Most of India still have no flushing toilets, a fact the Indian government has been trying to hide for years.
you guys just keep giving us your money and will keep promising to pay it tomorrow suckers..... United States of America RULES!
you guys just keep giving us your money and will keep promising to pay it tomorrow suckers..... United States of America RULES!...................
Your arrogance astounds me.
Ok, ok, ok,... indians just discovered the industrial revolution... about time. Didn't Brits build the first rail roads in india a 100 years ago.
Ok, I am hungry now and need to have a stake... ooops, I am sorry it is your god I will be eating.
I'll never understand why Indians are so proud when there isn't a single good reason. Stinky ugly proud people that nobody likes. The language and accent are among the most disliked too so they lose there as well while it's an advantage for most foreigners. I guess the more third world your country is, the more proud you become.
Truth is truth regardless of how much it hurts, I know that this will get flamed by Indians, go watch your cricket game instead.
What an ignorent person you are. pity on you.
O.K. I get it India is a new superpower but then why half of India live in the U.S. That number may not be exact but it just seems like it.
You were a colony once and you will be a colony again, after you duke it out with Pakistan and annihilate each other's cities. Foolishness all around.
I prefer not do do business with indians.
Don't have a cow man!
You're nothing without the civilized world keeping you in check. If it weren't for US you'd have nuked yourselves & the region into oblivion twice because of your idiotic religious beliefs.
Cows are sarced...OMg make me laff till I pee myself.
And the only reason India has any knowledge or wealth is because the US lets you work here under the H1.-B visa program & by our god we're going to end that & send you all back to your crummy little slums to rot & die of cholera or some such horror.
Derek
you talk about educating americans yet your grammar and spelling needs work itself. go F yourself you piece of garbage.
Just don't shake their hand – they crap in the street and wipe with their hands.
Really? India a superpower?
Stop it.
I just came back from that mud whole and it is a mess.
The people are living in mud and sleeping in their urine on the streets.
Sure they have a couple of big companies, but then they waste all of the money that they make and fail to reinvest it back into their country and infrastructure.
India could be a superpower, but right now it's a large country with a lot of wasted resources that is trying to push a "superpower" propaganda on the world instead of actually changing itself from within.
India is doing OK. However, it needs to clean up all those nasty monkeys from the streets and also keep people from smelting lead and other metals in their cook ware. India also has a class of people that are thought of as being complete trash and you sir call India a great nation?
After reading this, I have just fired both my Indian programmers this morning.
Are we talking the Indians with the dots or the Indians with the feathers?
These days, I ain't gonna say who is an 'Injun' or who is not. If he/she don't look 'Red', then he/she ain't no 'Injun.'.
The simple Truth is, everybody owes everybody else. So why they all just don't go to Bretton Woods, spend a couple weeks, and put their Cards on the Table, & by then I'm sure if they genuinely cared, they'd simply clear the Table, & say, we're starting over, with all debts 'Cancelled,' including Mortgages, Car, whatever.
Y'all must remember, the Financiers of this Debt, didn't have a clue with what to do with their Bucks, (it's a good thing the Suez & Panama Canals are already built, because their ain't NO ONE IN THE U.S. with that type of Engineering Conceptual ability. They now, all dead.
The only Canal they know about, is a 'Root Canal'. If the 'Brooklyn Bridge' hadn't already been Built, there not even now, be even a study to so do. Forget about how much China has of your Debt, but it probably would be them, to Finance & Build that Bridge.
I hope at least a couple of folk out there, really, really, Think about what I'm saying here, before Charlie Sheen finds out that Rose's husband, was in fact a 'Dummy', when he decides to, at last – Propose.
Because that's where y'all at.
Really, India's out there being a supper power with all it's aircraft carriers, carriers being multiple right. Interesting seeing as India only has one commissioned aircraft carrier, compared to the U.S.'s eleven. Something something something shooting pirates.
You stupid Pakistani troll! STFU!
Im sure China would like us to get in a Fight with India, it would serve them well. The bottom line, the worlds a small place. Populations are exploding, water sources dwindling, famine and disease will never go away, although I have to give it to the scientist for never giving up, weather patterns are getting out of whack, polution, melting Icecaps, you name it. What we have is a global war for resources, global wars over ideology and religion, global wars for greed, global wars for ego's. Man kind is getting smart in its technologies, while our wisdom is in a seriouse decline. China thinks it will realize itself a super power and all its inhabitants will live like Americans one day, the day that happens they will successfully destroy the planet at the same time, its a race to the end of a cliff, if they want to make it there first, i say let them, their ignorance is amusing. I'm not saying the US doesn't need to decrease consumption and consumer based mentallity, it does, but whats China trying to prove by wanting to be like us, they are just as ignorant, thats called Ironic Hypocracy. And as for as Democrats and Republicans.. thats a dam joke, has anyone ever heard of the devide and conquore saying.. the wealthy have purchased our democratic system and put it against itself while they rob our country blind and sell us out to the world. Then they will move on to China
have fun with that China, they have more people to rob, so it represents a more lucrative group of sheeple.
Yeah, great. Do you think maybe clean drinking water or sanitation could be a priority.
This is for the moron who thinks India owns the USA. Dream on! Indians are liers, thieves, you sell your mother for a dime if you think you can profit. You are simply rubbish people. you cannot feed and house your own people what makes you thinkyou can own the USA, eh? If you think you can scare Ethiopia, again dream on, Ethiopians are known for their bravery, do you it's Uganda. We are watching you you sold to Ethiopia fake pharmaceuticals, as a result many peole died. Your evil people! do not delude to compare yourself with the USA. I hope USA wakes up soon to find out how evil and the lowest form of humans. You have some nerve to think you can own the USA. Dispecable!!!
What is your point??? Shall we expect to see Indian relief and aid generously poured out to disaster victims the world over? What is the metric for greatness?
Nice i talk about TATA and the idia metal industry check them up and one off the retaing companys and you see the game balloon, or bubble. internetis open and you can learn a lot!!!!!!
LMFAOOOOOOO
Gay Hind
Troll for a living, do you?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, in terms of who has more power of the BRIC nations, China takes the cake. Without China, the BRICs are just a pale version of themselves. China has the best rail, the tallest towers, the longest bridges and is buying up like everything. In terms of GDP, India is nothing compared to China. Beware of China, beware.........
India might be a strong player in the BRIC economies but its fundamentals are not as strong. With intense corruption looming over its head like a swinging sword, it has a lot to correct before it can gain a top position in the world. I am from India and it makes me disappointed to see the amount of corruption that has taken place over the years, which if had not happened, we could have used it to build the nations infrastructure and created millions of jobs and still stayed in surplus. It could have carried this trend by charging less than 3% on taxes and have enough money to lend it to other countries and maintain a supremacy. We need to take care of corruption first and make all the corrupt politicians pay back. I will be one of the happiest person to see India on the global lenders list.
What about all the money we owe The Federal Reserve? Who charge us high interest on the paper they sell us that's not worth anything!!!! If we wouldn't have taken The Federal Reserves offer we wouldn't be in this debt right now!
Would you like to try a blueberrry squishie?
So It only shows 75% of the US debt. What about the other 25%?
Something here smells fishy. According to this article "U.S.Treasury" holds 11.3% of its own debt? How can the U.S. Treasury hold its own debt? Either this author is re talking about the Federal Reserve and is being DISHONEST to call it the Treasury, or the Treasury should blinkin' well forgive itself the debt it owes itself and get us out of this jam.
when i was a kid i remember reagan on tv talking about 4 trillion dollar debt and how that would ruin our nation if we didnt pay it down. politicians really took that advise.
Dude, you're exagerating and dreaming. My nephew just got back from there, he says it's filthy and stinky. he's never seen so much poverty. he never wants to go back
How long ago did you get this bump on your head??
Its amazing how this conversation turned south. The article has nothing to do about India and just because of a comment by “friendsofIndia” which is nothing but a pompous self propaganda. I think people should stick to the topic relevant to the article and ignore this idiot. I am an Indian and proud to be one ……… but honestly embarrassed by the comments made by so called ‘friendsofindia” which are ignorant and incorrect.
Please do not make me laugh, i have been to your country and the sight of the swam of beggars and people taking a crap on the streets would correct your chauvinistic rant. India is up and coming but until you educate your poor and build up the country side, your country is on the periphery of the superpowers and not inside the club.
What the ****? What does this article has anything to do with India except the Freed connection. I am an Indian, but am baffled at this comment. You clearly are an idiot.
fed reserve (really they are private bankers nothing federal) owns and controls our debt and they are made up of foreign bankers, predominately jewish/zionist. Consider the fact that the fed chairman has never ever been a non jew.
Hare Krishna!
I am jewish – sorry
I was born and raised in the United States and I am proud american. My parents are both indian and they both had an arranged marriage
( which is a really f-cked up custom if you ask me) they always fight and they loathe each other. They had me and they expect me to follow all of their stupid, idiotic customs and traditions, but I dont really believe in any of them, it's just mombo jumbo to me. I hate indian people because they are so racist, I am NOT racist to anyone I dont even look at color!, indian people think they are a dominant race and they think they're better than everyone else which I really hate!, they're so proud of being indian!, yet india so so corrupt and is a 3rd world country! They're also VERY strict about education which isnt bad but when I have a new friend my parents always ask me what sort of grades my friends make, why does that matter? Also when I was diagnosed with dyslexia they were really mad they beat me and they BLAMED me for having dyslexia!, how can I help it? Other indian people are the same way, they're proud of being indian. And pround of being hindu, and they think it's better than any other religion. I'm am the black sheep in my family. I hate it! I guess I'll convert to something else when I'm older and get my skin bleached or something.... but what can I do now? How do I get out of it?
Are you blaming others for your situation? It’s your surrounding you think is not pleasant. It's you who is suffering. What action are you taking to help your parents and what action are you taking to change. What you can give others. God bless you and find peace within.
I was raised by indian parents they've always enforced indians beleifs, culture, and all that other crap. I HATE all of it. I HATE how the people in India, particularly the politicians who have NO integrity and ruin the country for their own benefit. I hate how the people there have no disregard for people around them, many of them do not care for the people who live on the streets! I hate how they have NO MANNERS. I hate how every indian guy I've ever met is so ARROGANT ( not saying all of them are just the one's I've had the misfortune of meeting) I also hate that stupid arranged marriage custom, it is STUPID, and people dont realize that the children of the parent who have had an arranged marriage often have to suffer with the idiotic bickerings of their parents( I should know I have been tortured by it for 17 years) I realize that sometimes these arranged marriages work out well but that is rare. I hate the movies, how they are the same story again and again.
Does any one else agree with me?
How can I distance myself from this country, it's customs, and it's people?
I know you all probably think I'm crazy, but if you've seen what I have seen,if you have experienced what I have experienced then I guarantee you would feel the same way.
I understand your reasoning of the politicians, I am from America... How's India this time of year?
Are their any deodorant factories in India?
Curry Pot!!
India may indeed be on the ascendant, but why not take some of that money and fix your gods forsaken roads?
Well some of you dont know who Ghandi is. His famous words "Give a man a fish and he is well fed for the day but teach a man how to fish and he is on his way"
This teaching is practised the world over by wise people. The United states have read this well but hesitated to implement it. They have fed Iraq and Afghanistan and they were well fed for the day but then they realized that they have to teach them so they can be on their way. What a pity they did not listen to Ghandi before now. 8 years later and billions or dollars and millions of lives. The socialist teachings of Castro and Mao have also been implemented in the monetary policy of the united states two years ago to save the skin of free enterprise capitalist america.
No duh CNN....that was a no brainer. I wrote my economic thesis on the ownership of the national debt.
Slap slap CNN... Don't worry, he didn't graduate.
FriendsofIndia is an Indian and I am an alien from the planet Zoltron. Bring me to your earthly leader. I have heard it is Lady Gaga. Where is he?
Are you stoned or something? Why would you write something so unrelated to the topic? And by the way, you are definitely not an Indian guy.
will stay in India or go back to India then
Hey don't forget to mention your job market and economy has steadily inclined due to the outsourcing of mainly American jobs, as soon as you bow down to us for that I will congratulate you on your achievements, except to your road builders.
And apparently the largest egos's of any other people as well.
I can't wait untill we destroy your country.
OMG many of you don't know who Ghandi was !!
Testament to the failure of your education.
If you want to get a real feel for who he was and what he stood for 60 years ago... go watch the movie Ghandi with Ben Kingsley. Keep in mind these were even more violent times than today.
Ghandi was to the Indians what MLK was to American civil rights. Please learn a little history folks, so it does NOT repeat itself like ti's doing now.
example Korea 1952 = Vietnam 1968 = Iraq 2003 ... there's a BAD pattern. Learn from it and avoid the pitfall.
Come on dude, seriously. I think you had your so called desi alcohol.
Longest bridge in China, NOT IN INDIA. Not GREATEST democracy but BIGGEST just because of your population. Greatest democracy is still America against all the odds you may think. Your prime minister is presiding over as you called big international conferences is merely because every country gets it turn and please let us know which BIG INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCES. Your super aircraft carriers and patrolling the high waters?!! GET YOUR FACTS FROM ANOTHER SOURCE. All India has patrolling high seas is old rusty Russian made.
With all respect to India, I have lived in India for three years and studied politics there but just for the sake of respect to India facts can not be changed.
Its CNN man, not something else. BE AS THE ONE WHO COMMENTS ON CNN BECAUSE PEOPLE READ HERE AND KNOW ALOT!
I am tired of the whole mess! We should have term limits on the senate and congress. Also no more life time payments and no more life time insurance and so on, Also they should not be allowed to give them self's a cost of living increase. While the rest of this country struggles to get by.
And no more so called loans or grants to foreign country's while we have a deficit. No more!
Where is all that money now? who is going to help out the good old USA?
Hey! Obama where is all that transperancy we were going to see? Yes we can? But not with you!
...yet India still has massive poverty, still upholds cultural practices that marginalize the oppressed, and still needs infrastructure redevelopment.
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The US navy has seven times the personnel, twice the ships and 15 times more planes than the Indian Navy. In Somalia india has ONE destroyer and ONE frigate while the US has the Fifth Fleet defending ships in Somalia. India has only one aircraft carrier in their entire navy. China or the United States arguably have the world has the worlds longest bridge. The Three Gorges Dam in China is the world's largest Hydroelectric Dam. Look it up on Wikipedia.
Mr. Mucha,
Who owns Hong Kong? China !!
Ultimately, India will dominate all countries including China. They already are a superpower. I was surprised by their total absence on this list, but then again why buy our paper when they've already got gold?
Gandhi was biggest layer called father of the Nation. What would you expect of his children. I don't like that A$$ whole
Sunil: Do you prefer your a$$ in pieces instead? How would you like that cooked?
Remember 90% of India lives in poverty.
Blah Blah Blah Blah... First get your dharavi like slums cleaned up and then put in your comments.
Get the Corrupt Netas in the Prison and then put in your comments.
Get the politics of religion out of your system and then put in your comments
Get out the Caste based politics and then put in your comments
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Blah Blah Blah Blah... First get your dharavi like slums cleaned up and then put in your comments.
Get the Corrupt Netas in the Prison and then put in your comments.
Get the politics of religion out of your system and then put in your comments
Get out the Caste based politics and then put in your comments. A stupid country trying to get attention.
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hey you bozo – you sound like an ISI plant! – and like everywhere else, you stand out like a sore thumb – the "soreness" probably coming from counting money from US taxpayers that you steal every year. surprised you did not end with some stupid reference to kashmir or about what you have under your vest waiting to pull the trigger. go get a life!
Ok Peggy, settle down...
LMAO how about India start feeding its own people before it claims superpower status
India has a long way to go.. even to reach where China is today.. forget about the Western nations..
Check out Slum Dog Millionaire again. Last I checked India was a far cry from Nirvana.
How embarrassing.
Let us not forget that India also has the most completely stupid questions on Yahoo Answers. They outnumber all other countries by 2 to 1 combined.
shut up before the us invades you and takes all of your money destroys your religion shrines and converts you to christianity
India...taking over the US one 7-11 and taxi-cab at a time. Would you like a slurpee? Tank you come again.
correction, India is the worlds biggest BUREAUCRACY. not democracy. Its govt is useless....the economy on the other hand is a different story.
We are Americans we bow to no one. Why don't you Indians feed your own people. It is America that feeds the world.
And why don't yous start opening up your own gas stations instead of coming over here and running ours? Give your own people jobs instaed of taking ours. Take pride in your OWN country by starting with ALL your people.
Hey Mr India, when you post your opinion about countries get your facts together, there are no Ethiopian pirates on Red Sea. In fact the, east Africa and the Red Sea gulf is relatively a safer place because of Ethiopian intervention in Somalia. Don't be ignorant.
try to understand that when a country holds our debt, they are VERY interested in cooperating with us in every regard.... foreign debt is not necessarily a bad thing in an unstable world... we hold more cards than you think...
India has the most traffic deaths in the world. Maybe your "engineers" should look into that.
Its great to hear India is doing well.. But what about the MILLIONS who live in poverty in your 3rd world country.Not to mention the wide spread corruption,
Canada should be the worlds blueprint for a succesful enconmy and social ideal in the years to come,,NOT INDIA..
No disresepct but come on now.
Bakwaas bol reh ho.
of course.........india...........coz they always said "i kill u god if you ........bla...bla...bla" part of bollywood script.................
Gandu, you people are investing by very very cheap price in FERTILE LANDS of ETHIOPIA and elsewhere, and now you would like to be on the stages of other good investors. Get life! If it wasn't up to America, no one will know where you are.
Just behave, SLEEKY.
Nothing to see here but a troll. Please don't fee 'em. Just useless prattle designed to get people riled up.
Life in India for majority of the population are like it was shown in the movie slum dog millionaire. Over 300 million people go to bed starving, children eat dirt because there's no food available to them. It has over1.3 billion people but the economy is smaller than Canada's and Canada has only 35 million people.
Awesome news now maybe they can fix their plumbing issues.....
These are provocative comments.
Anyway the sum of all the percentages of debt mentioned in this articel adds up only to 75.5. Where is rest of the 24.5 % of debt money. Something is missing in the article. The math does not add up.
India has one Air Craft carrier in use. It was built in 1987. I don't think that's really scaring to many people right now.
I've kissed the girls in Naples;
They're pretty as can be.
I've also kissed some French girls
Who came from "Paree."
The Spanish girls are lovely;
Oh, yes, indeed they are.
But the ladies of Calcutta are sweeter by far.
The ladies of Calcutta will steal your heart away;
And after it is stolen, you'll say–I've kissed the girls of Naples;
I've kissed them in Paree;
But the ladies of Calcutta do something to me
I wonder why anyone would boast about a country that more than half the population live under the poverty line and people are even paid with rats as their daily wages. With an unknown number of citizens in India not forgetting populating other parts of the world the number of mobile user does not come into play.
Talking about an old aircraft carrier that has had five(5) refit and can be sunk by any drunk pirate is just laughable.
With all the so called construction feats, we all know how good your engineers are with your structures for the commomnwealth games. Figers crossed these ones would last for 48 hours.
You be the judge. Talk is cheap. Just stick to curry eating.
cry me a river india..
Well if you are such a superpower why don't you get back the mountains in Assam lost to China in the 60s?
India is an economic power house!! but they lack one key export and import: DEODORANT!
india is .... amazing.... better than usa
Friedsofstinkia...... You are a moron, run to the doctor and have your head examined ASAP
That's just silliness. India is a joke.
neither we nor any other country own anything,its all temporary!
India is so great?! Its still a 3rd world country, where cows run rampant in city streets, where people urinate and use the streets as a toilet.
Sorry, India takes care of alot of call centers and grunt work that many in America don't want to do anymore, and especially want to take advantage of India's slave labor rates. Much like China.
India is laughable.
هل بادمجان تا الاغ خود
friendsofindia......speak with facts and numbers. India has made good progress these past 10-15 years or so but they are so far way behind western standards that lets not even talk about it or make any comparisons. A few mega projects here and there are all good, but between 7-10 million indians sleep on the street – and that is just for the greater Mumbai area. Not sure what the totals would be for all of India. This would be like the entire population of Finland, Norway and Denmark out on the street. – again that is just one City. People from the west are horrified at what they see on Indian streets. But that is Europe – even first time visitors from progressive Asian countries are no less horrified at the plight of common Indians. They have seen pockets (or large pockets of poverty in their own countries), but Indian poverty scenes are just plain horror and scary for small children. Add to that the stink and filth on the streets. Ask a taxi driver in Mumbai where he spends his night, where is his family and where he goes to relieve himself and you will know what life is like in India for the common person. Yes, India is on the right track, but it will take 100-200 years before it can call itself a civilized society. Pakistan has a nuclear bomb, but so what.....life otherwise is hell for just about everyone.
Indian has so many smart people but they still have no clues of how to relieve them from poverty; indian buses never stop at the bus stops, the passengers all have to jump up and down for taking such transportation. Indian temple smells dirty socks since visitors have to leave their shoes at the entrance; Indian found the billions lbs of gold in an antient treasary temple which can pay off every penny of every country's debts; unfortunately, Indian got the greedist (sure they were elected) corrupted officials who suck every drop of blood of the majority people and take all the natural resources away for filling their own pockets. Once you ever visit India, you will get the same feeling of mine.
Jai Hind!... You are overly proud of your still 3rd world country... Most of your educated civilians are migrating to the US and Europe because corruption and unrest is alive and kicking in India. I know because I work with some of them. India should never of been let to have atomic power as well as Pakistan because neither of population majority of both countries has enough respect for human life. Yes we hear of the growing middle class in India and the US will exploit them for the sales market of medical devices and pharmaceuticals now that they can afford them... 5% of India is wealthy and 25% lives in poverty which is people living off $1.25 a day or less. I wouldn't boast about that if I were you!
Yes Jai,
But they are not you.
Those engineers and industrialists accomplished what they did without you.
You are living vicariously through them, through some tenuous ethnic belonging, and seeking validation on a CNN blog.
So sad....
"super duper power" That should be an official category. LOL
India has a long way to go they have the highest birth rate in the world by the time they be like USA it will take a century.
India, land of 5million castes.Where 60% don't have access to clean water, flushing toilet, and electricity.
India, where the richest family Ambanis never paid any tax.
India where 350 Million Dalits are treated worse than their holy cows.
India, land of open sewers and open defecation.
India, where cow's urine is a sought after drink and an elixir, where cow's dung is a favored fuel in rural areas.
India, the land of superbug.
India, what a beautiful country. LOL
... and the majority of your population lives in third-world squalor.
india is a horrible place, much like china, very little human consideration, land of horrors, poverty, corruption.
generically imitating and following the west technology/etc
if it was so wonderful punjabs wouldnt be flooding white countries as if it were proper they were here.
What about the untouchables? I know we have poverty but India has millions and millions living below that. What about burning brides for more dowry? What about the pollution? India, the next power? Please. I remember one of your PM's visits to the US included a discussion about his penchant for drinking his own urine. And on top of that your gods have to many arms.
All your facts are wrong?
Don't forget, it's not a lie if you yourself believe it.
Another raging nut from the crazed failed state of Pakistan acting real big. Stop prentending to be Indian, you just make your failed Paki nation look even worse. For a long time these Paki haters used to blame India, now these crazies are blaming the U.S. and the West for their problems. Paki terrorists are hated the world over for a good reason.
Another raging nut from the crazed failed state of Pakistan acting real big. Stop pretending to be Indian, you just make your failed Paki nation look even worse. For a long time these Paki haters used to blame India, now these crazies are blaming the U.S. and the West for their problems. Paki terrorists are hated the world over for a good reason.
The post smell so bad...just like my friend Sanjay.
Not to mention that the US is the only country that pay millions IN CASH to import drugs from us ... Mexico, I dont care if you like or not but its true, MEX does not use a credit card it takes cash from ya'll .... makes me think who's the smart ... keep drugging your self America, thank-u come again
Jai HIndi.....it's good to be proud of your country, however when you talk about others, please make sure you have your facts. Ethiopia is a land locked country and does not have pirates. AND since when an Indian is scaring an African nation?...Don't make the world laugh at you.
But I thought that the Federal Reserves own 11.6% of the debt in the us and not the Department of finance/treasury! This is really funny and fishy at the same time. Why are you lying Mr. Tom Mucha? what interest do you have in lying?
Enough is enough, I may be young but I am not stupid! There is no way we will ever get out of debt but there is a way to help lower it a little, but those precautions are not being taken for the simple fact that our government is to concerned with foreign issues rather than our own. The government needs to look at what is going on with our own country before they meddle there nose into foreign countries. Why can they not just get that they don't want us there, and also that there are cries and pleas from people who are struggling with everyday life right under there noses?
With all that money, why don't you fix up your Bombay and Calcatta slums, abolish poverty, educate the girls and save them from the hindu pimps who sell them for money
FriendsofIndia, while your enthusiasm is appreciated, you are either ill-informed or haven't taken your meds today. First off, more than 410 million people in India are poor: this is more than all of the sub-Saharan countries combined. This includes those living in abject poverty in abysmal conditions- worse than those in even neighboring Bangladesh, Bhutan, Nepal, and Sri Lanka. While India has a rising middle class, much of the population has been left behind and this is further illustrated by the gini coefficient which indicates that India has one of the largest gaps between rich and poor in the world. For every Tata and Mittal, there are literally millions who are starving- super duper power indeed.
This does not even begin to address the myriad regions of India which are having territorial disputes: Telangana wanting to create a separate state, the "chicken neck" states feeling like they're being taken advantage of by the rest of the union, fights between pradeshes in the south over water rights, etc. India is diverse in religions as well so you should take your hindu colossus claims with a grain of salt. Indian super aircraft carriers? Really? Like the naval vessel INS Vindhyagiri that sunk in your Mumbai harbor after colliding with a merchant ship? Perhaps the most they can do is to chase Ethiopian and Somalian pirates in their rubber dinghies and "scare off their pants." as you put it so eloquently. Oh, and by the way, the largest hydroelectric dam is in China. Speaking of which, India doesn't even have sufficient water: you will have to negotiate rights with Nepal for augmented water during the winter months once the latter builds large storage dams. You don't even own enough water for irrigation or energy for the masses of air conditioners you need to make your country habitable- own the world indeed.
Perhaps you would be better served in actually leaving your metropolitan area and venturing into the real India, the India where farmers hang themselves and widows are burned in funeral pyres in sati; yes, I know it is outlawed but it still happens in the villages. Once you lift the poor, enslaved, and disadvantaged from their miserable existence, then come back and wax poetic about your nation. Until then, stop watching so many bollywood movies- "India shining indeed."
you have know idea you can feed your owm pople look at slumdog millionair
Hahaha, this post & most of the responses to it really made me laugh, thank you everyone! I wish there were more posts like that instead of all the real & depressing posts & comments!
Get a grip friends of india..... Why does nobody want to move to India but Indians want to move out of India? Your view of reality is not realistic! It's a good spot to visit but wouldn't want to live there!
Tata? You mean you can fit an American in that car? You want to rule the world with that piece of junk? To give you some respect.... sure you've organized the commonwealth game... but come on... do you dare to take on one Olympic Games?
@FriendsofIndia: You are either Paki or some one escaped from mental asylum...
China boundary settlements with other countries -
Western and Indian analysts and journalists frequently accuse China of having a new-found self-confidence, call on Obama to "burst Beijing's bubble", call its statements "harangue" and its behaviour "hubris", and accuse it of possessing an increased "assertiveness" (Almost everyone!).
Even a 2005 Pentagon report on Chinese military power expressed concern that “conflicts to enforce China territorial claims could erupt in the future with wide regional repercussions."
J. Mohan Malik, an expert in Asian Geopolitics and Proliferation, proclaims, "Having wrested substantial territorial concessions from Russia, Vietnam, and Tajikistan in their land border disputes with China, Beijing is now expecting the same from India."
Although a thorough analysis of China border disputes merits a separate blog post, only a summary is sufficient here to put things in perspective.
China has had land border disputes with every country which it bordered. However, it has resolved 12 out of the 14 disputes quite remarkably, giving remarkable concessions in each of them.
In its border negotiations with different countries, China has pursued compromise and offered concessions in most of these conflicts. China compromises have often been substantial, as it has usually offered to accept less than half of the contested territory in any final settlement. It has also not reiterated its claims on a majority of the territory which was seized from it by the so-called unequal treaties.
According to M.Taylor.Fravel, a premier expert on China border disputes,
"Contrary to scholars of offensive realism, ......China has rarely exploited its military superiority to bargain hard for the territory that it claims or to seize it through force. China has likewise not become increasingly assertive in its territorial disputes as its relative power has grown in the past two decades. Contrary to others who emphasize the violent effects of nationalism, which would suggest inflexibility in conflicts over national sovereignty, China has been quite willing to offer territorial concessions despite historical legacies of external victimization and territorial dismemberment under the Qing."
".....China has not issued demands for large tracts of territory that were part of the Qing dynasty......"
"China only contested roughly 7 percent of the territory that was part of the Qing dynasty at its height"
In the adjoining map, the grey area was part of the Qing dynasty during 1820, claims that China did not pursue.
China land border negotiations with neighbouring countries offer a startling revelation. Portions of the total disputed territories that China received as part of its boundary negotiations with 12 of its 14 neighbours are as follows:
Afghanistan – 0%
Tajikistan – 4%
Nepal – 6%
Burma – 18%
Kazakhstan – 22%
Mongolia – 29%
Kyrgyzstan – 32%
North Korea – 40%
Laos – 50%
Vietnam – 50%
Russia – 50%
Pakistan – 54%
Pakistan was a special case in which China received 60% of the disputed land but transferred 1942 square kilometers of separate land to Pakistan. In Tajikistan’s case, the figure refers to the 28000 sq.km of the disputed Pamir mountain range, other sectors were divided evenly. In the case of Vietnam, in addition to this settlement, China transferred, apparently without any strings attached, the White Dragon Tail Island to (North) Vietnam in 1957.
According to Fravel, "Analysis of China dispute behavior bears directly on the future of peace and stability in East Asia. Behavior in territorial disputes is a fundamental indicator of whether a state is pursuing status quo or revisionist foreign policies, an issue of increasing importance in light of China rising power."
India invaded kashmmir in 1947. India invaded hyderabad,junagarh and manavadar. India invaded goa and occupied it. India swallowed up a whole country of sikkim and occupied it. India invaded Sri lanka in 1980s, india defied international law by not acting on UN resolutions, India has problems with its every neighbour such as pakistan.china,bangladesh nepal,burma etc etc India is by all means an expansionist state. Its shame that west is supporting india for permanent seat in security council in return for access to indian market its a shame a perfect example of using your position to benefit a crimianl I mean corruption,
All that and a caste system that bases a persons worth on their heredity. Wow. You guys really are superior.
FriendsofIndia...you forgot to add that your govt is the most corrupt one and you'll are a hypocrite secular democracy.
India and china are growing because they have poor masses which could be exploited by western mega corporations.
Who is being served by indian service industry??? and who is buying from chinese manufacturers???????????
its the west not their own populations so your growth is our generosity SO SHUT UP INDIANS DONT TREAT YOUR CUSTOMERS LIKE THIS OTHERWISE WE MAY SEND YOU BACK TO YOUR SLUMS.
I am an Indian. You can do all those great things in India but Bhai shab pl have all those people stop peeing on the road side.
The most corrupted country in the world next to pakistan!! A fake democracy!!
You seem to forget that India doesn't OWN anything. America OUTSOURCES jobs to India because its cheaper than America. Because our CEO's can pay YOUR people LESS to produce things. It's because you're cheap, not because you "lord over the world" Also, India isn't so "great" if you would divert your attention here: http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions.html you'll see just how disgusting india can be. It's pretty sad when your living are bathing in waters that have had the dead rotting in them.
My dear you are just looking before the curtain and not behind the curtain.
Don't forget about all the money you guys are making in India cutting off the the arms and legs of children and putting them on the street to beg!
I had spoken of friends of India earlier ..I said he could be a paki or a chinese earlier But he can also be some sick Indian ..Who Indians are ashamed off.Cause such weird people could be any where..Dont know.. Whats the truth..Dont care too..Peace..And God Loves every one!!!!
Nuke india...it smells like shiet! patrolling somali pirates lol exporting terrorism and blaming it on to smaller but more powerful countries...hint hint...plz continue drinking urine and raping cows
however, you cant still drink the water from India.
What you disclose I cannot dispute because I do not know the facts. But I would like to share a bit of perspective. The citizens of the entire human race must learn to cooperate, to share, and in everything, to aid one another to become better at whatever they are drawn to do, and to be accountable which means to avoid corruption. Should we collectively decide to do this the lives of all will become more healthy and thus more productive and there could be substantially less pain and agony. If we do not do this it will all end miserably for one and all.
I like when peoples are proud of who they are and what they have accomplished...this is why America fails. America looks at the world through a muddy microscope hurling insults, lies, famine, diseases and lack of mindfulness. Their problems go far beyond the dollar into the ruthless souless committments to destruction and evil.
OF the Bric in my opinion Brazil has all the needs to grow health and longer , # 1 one language only , # 2 No 1 billion mouths to feed , #3 easy to understant culture * For USA investors and EU investors # 4 No Political risks . # 5 Strong agriculture # 6 Found and soon will start production huge Oil resevations .
India will never rule the world. I will tell you why.
When I think of India, I think of the country as a whole as a dirty little boy on the street, crying and separated from his mother. I feel sorry for the boy. I just want to pick up and hug and say everything will be alright once we find your mother. In the meantime, I want to take that little boy home and give it a good bath and teach it about deodorant, toothpaste, shampoo and Lava Soap.....In other words, India has a lot of growing up to do and it's mother and father are not coming back.....
You are so happy about your country economics growth, but dont forget the people whom live around de Ganges River.
CostaLinda.
I don't agree at all. you are living in a dream world. More then 50% of the indian people living below poverty . You have been watching too many bollywood movies.
since you're so rich, maybe it's time to start buying soap. you guys stink.
lThis is enemy of India writing in the name of friends of india. My guess is he/she is porkistan propaganda writer. I have seen such comments on various websites. This guy/guys write very boasting things regarding India just to make it look obviously ridiculous. These guys are really very desperate.
I have been searching for an answer to a question for a long time and that is. who is mystery Babylon in the King James Bible? I see that you say you are so great and I see you are decked with gold and gem stones. In one hour you will have total destruction. It is you that will bend your knees to The God of Israel. You have deceived the world with your pills and false Gods.
A truelly prosperous democratic society wouldn't have your caste system that segregates the races. And, besides, with all your material positions.... would your Buddha find any enlightenment in that?
India has the largest HIV population in the world. Its moral compass is beyond repair it believes it can dazzle you with brilliance and fill your hand with bull- And if it is so great, why are their so many here lol
India and many other countries still have a long way to go in establishing tolerance and equality to its own people. Until that happens, we are all still poor morally and spiritually.
but yet you guys have the biggest scams, the worst standard of living and the second highest corrupted nation on the planet and also the highest black money which is a trickery by influential people at the cost of others that you guys call servants. reminds me of the slave trade!!!!!!
well ... your race is really... i mean... reaaaaallyyyyy STINKY!! smells so bad.. smells like onions all the time.. do you have onions tucked in your armpits or what?
Hmm.. Seems like a spoof from someone pretending to be an Indian, to start a firestorm on an article that has nothing to do with India. And so far it has worked so well that all the discussion here is about India!
COULD YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SEWER SYSTEM ?
Subtle, huh? Next time you decide to troll under a fake nationality, try to tone it down a bit, will ya?
India isn't the leader of the BRIC countries, it's Brazil.
And yet you have rampant poverty, disease, enviromental degradation and an inability to control your overpopulation. How nice for you. straighten out your own neighborhood and fix your own country and then you can call yourself the greatest, and yes, we need to do the same thing here. Being the greatest is over rated.
No known name, group or country owns America, not even America herself. Only the highest bidder or a group of bidders do it temporarily. Hopefully this group is strong, balanced and more or less just in its formation so that the world will not alltogether go wrong. Although what is defined as democracy is actually based on the voting rights of the highest shareholder this is not so much different than the voting procedure we do now and than and is almost the same as the voting done in the Roman Seneto back in 300 BC. But there needs to be and has always been a leading state in the world. Nowadays it is USA. That is where most of the world's resources are gathered and where some innovations can be done. This may sound a complex explanation, but it is actually very simple. The big fish eats the small fish. The big fish is powerful enough to defend the territory. So the small fish fares well. The big fish generally eats the weak the old and the young. The whole humanity owns USA in different degrees. This circle can not be broken (and has not been broken for 2500 years) untill humanity advances in ways other than finance and technology.
Jimmy John? Or should I Jimmanthir Jahan from Hyderabad? So your one of those call center people......
Get off of hindu sanatans goons pot and be in real world, hindered land india is the pit of the world and has no chance to come out of it, while living by hinduism, racism like animals.
You cant be serious, india is far from being a superpower, your people live in slums and many dont even have fresh water to drink. You guys cant even handle pakistan, you got no chance at your neighbor to the north, china. Your part of the asian continent, every smart person knows you cant be #1 if your in EU or Asia, you have to many borders and typically access to only 1 ocean, The US has acess to both pacific and atlantic and is far from other superpowers.
Indian politicians have invested their money in the Swiss Bank. You are out of touch with the truth.
@friendsofindia. You hindus are really wierd. "Bow down to our super powers"!? and "I'm really dissappointed "at" you? It should be "in". WOW!!!!
OK, just how much of America does India own?
My friend you are clown! I believe the records speaks for itself and this has nothing to do with Fareed Zakaria.
Do you have any idea how many people sleep on the streets in India? Do you have any idea how lower cast people are insulted in India?
India is too liberal no regulations or anything its too easy to get screwed over.
India? The country with too many people and not enough food? Oh yes that right......... India sucks.
ummm... china is one of the BRIC countries...
also, good troll
you sound like a crazy Hindu Nationalist.
If that's the case, how come the majority of your people live in abject Poverty? Mumbai be damned!
I have no argument with the data in the article. However, after the 2012 elections, the Super Pacs will own the government of America and control the spending of trillions of dollars–not bad for a 3 billion dollar investment.
I say if India is so great then go there. Read this and then tell me that India is so great http://www.economicshelp.org/indian/problems-indian-economy.htmle . Your people swim in their own s*#t over there. Many are starving. You have a 61% Literacy rate. Here's your sanitation record:
Sanitation Facility Access:
Improved
urban: 54% of population
rural: 21% of population
total: 31% of population
unimproved:
urban: 46% of population
rural: 79% of population
total: 69% of population (2008)
Again I say....You go to India. I am happy here.
YOU GUYS ARE ALL LAME INCLUDING FREINDSOFINDIA YUHH FAKE
You are not Indian nor a friend of India. Why even bring India into the equation?
No freindsofindia i am disappointed in you. Mexican citizens own US citizens. We steal countless jobs from them and collect food stamps just for good grubbing. We also steal houses and apartments from those lazy americans. VIVA LA MEXICO
So, much for Gahndi. How bout so much for the poor, the 1%, so much for capitalism. Man, humans don't want to lose, but humans are still scared of death. But sadly not so, interested in evolution,
"The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs. This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan. Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan. It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans."
- David Ben Gurion, 1st Prime Minister of Israel. Jewish Chronicle, August 9, 1967.
And you also worship cows and fallen angels who masquarade as gods. My God created you, your nation, and your pagan gods! Of course the satanic global elite would favor you over Christian nations!
I have done my MATHS and come to the conclusion that foreign creditors still hold over 55% of America's debts. None alone is in the position to do any harm, but concerted action could cause problems.
Your math is wrong. See the above list. And most countries hate chinas.
I can not see one single reason why "most countries hate China". Mind enlight me?
You are some kind of smart ass. Just because you hate China does not mean that other countries feel the same way as you stupid idiot.
Polls have shown that the US is the third most hated country in the world after Iran and Israel, so it looks like your claim that the whole world hates China is incorrect.
This math does not take into account enough factors in its equations. Population is the whole reason for the recessions. In my childhood, in the east coast, there were farms that fed the cities. Now it is one big city from west Connecticut down to Washington D.C., with less and less farmland. So we import, and suddenly it isn't just "foreign oil" that is causing a monetary crisis, but foreign everything. That is all caused by population, folks. These countries should be ranked by their poverty, education, and population problems; America still would not look good, but at least we would see what is eating away at our economy.
China is one of the top 3 international tourism destinations in 2010 and soon could be number two.
I know you hate China but most people in the world don't seem to feel the same way as you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings
Note he wrote MATHS. This refers to something other than arithmetic , obviously. Fill in the blanks and make an acronym of your choice.
You mean COMMUNIST RED CHINA? Yes, all freedom lovers are disgusted with the RED Chinese government!
That's so great, FriendsofIndia, that you have managed to pull off those capitalistic feats. What I'm not hearing, though, is about your people . In order to be a true world power you have to lift your people out of poverty & starvation. Otherwise they serve as your weakest link, & any builder knows you're only as strong as your weakest link!
Good job bro, you got trolled by the obvious troll. Almost all of his facts were incorrect.
Of course China does not own America. The MIC(military-industrial-complex) in Washington does that as anyone with half a brain would know!!! That's the very reason that this country's in such bad shape economically with our excessive and unnecessary military spending and all these foreign aid givaways, not to mention all these useless wars that we're engaged in!!!
-- Certainly worth a 2nd READ Above!!
Here IS are some of tghe Numbers!! US Military Budget for 2011 BreakDown (high-level)
Defense-related expenditure 2011 Budget request & Mandatory spending Calculation
DOD spending $721.3 billion Base budget + "Overseas Contingency"
FBI counter-terrorism $2.7 billion At least one-third FBI budget.
International Affairs $10.1–$54.2 billion At minimum, foreign arms sales.
At most, entire State budget
Energy Department, defense-related $20.9 billion
Veterans Affairs $66.2 billion
Homeland Security $54.7 billion
NASA, satellites $3.4–$8.5 billion 20% and 50% of NASA's total
Veterans pensions $58.4 billion
Other defense-related $7.5 billion mandated expenditures
NOTE THIS
Interest on debt incurred in past wars $114.8–$454.2 billion
Between 23% and 91% of total USA interest
Total Spending $1.060–$1.449 trillion (US Govt. continues to Rob Soc.Sec. to pay for Wars
=================== Only In Amerika – which is now an Empire! ==========================
You forgot to mention how much US gov spends on social welfare/security/health/housing...
Have you ever thought that maybe there's a reason foreign troops haven't ever set boots on the ground in America? Oh..... No.... That would require a brain huh........ Get your head out of your @$$ and realize that only paying for the old is no way to run a nation which is supposed to be a superpower. It is however a great way to run a nation full of lazy imbeciles.
NASA does not launch military satellites – the military does that. Google the National Reconnaissance Office. Your "half the budget" is as made up as the rest of your figures.
Hey Mike-
Foreign troops have invaded on multiple occasions, most notably the war of 1812 when our capital was burned to the ground.
This isn't the cold war anymore. Invasion isn't our fear, even at 25% of our current strength there is no country on the planet that could even attempt an invasion. Our concern is with terrorism, dirty bombs, biological and chemical weapons. Having a $1 trillion dollar military won't do anything to thwart that, none of our 11 (maybe 12?) aircraft carriers or our several million man army will do us any good against some crazy SOB with a stick of dynamite and a suitcase of radioactive material in downtown Chicago.
Even so, less Americans have died from international terrorism in the last 30 years than died from workplace and industrial accidents in the last 3. Where are our priorities exactly?
1965 called. They want their hippie back.
It's true that we spend on military and police, but that is totally a part of the huge world population explosion, part of which is going on in America. More people, more police. We don't even tell kids in school that it might be a good idea to limit the size of their families; that would be politically incorrect, and therefore our cities become more crowded, more frustration, etc. And instead of farming our own soil, we cover our soil with buildings, and pay for foreign food. And then we also run out of space for industries, so we buy foreign goods. America has a lot of space, but we are running out because of our population. And that is the biggest problem, not military, not police.
The problem with some defense expenses is that they don't seem to follow the same rational rules as other expenses. Like if they can't analyse the cost-effectiveness when it comes to national security. A good example would be the F135, but when people say we should rethink if it's appropriate for the needs or say that they cost way too much for what they'll offer, they are flagged as anti-patriotic.
1. The real problem here is the TREND. The debt is the collection of the funding of many years of deficit. The trend is to MORE FOREIGN AND MORE CHINESE OWNERSHIP.
2. It is a BIG PROBLEM if a substantial amount of debt is owned to foreigners, concentrated or not because THE INTEREST PAID ON THE DEBT TO FOREIGNERS IS A LEAKAGE. The money leaves the economy. Paying a HIGHER RATE TO OURSELVES – all things being equal – is better, because in that case there is no net loss to our economy.
We could do what Canada did in the 1970s: kick out all the foreign-owned or foreign-involved multi-national corporations, put huge trade tariffs (I always wondered why Canada was included in NAFTA because of that), and tell anybody foreign who we owe money to that their debt has been "nationalized" as the communist countries did; then we wouldn't owe any of the foreign debt. Of course, they "claim" that they hate us now, but they would hate us far more after that. But America seems to always be afraid that people might hate us; at least step one is to be more concerned with American interests, and not so concerned with public image.
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I think you will find that a majority the world doesn't hate America ... popularity for the US has gone up since Obama was elected..... and besides that, its hard to hate a country thats in trouble.
Elizabeth, like to know where you get your information. Just to make sure you got your geography right, Canada is the one to the North, the one that provides roughly 3 million barrels of oil a day to the US, as well as supplying large amounts of electricity to your east and west coast. In the 1970's Canada was burdened by debt but did not throw out American companies, in fact many American companies have a very solid foothold in Canada. During the 70's the only think Canada did that even comes close was create Petro-Canada, but we did not seize foreign companies to do it, we used national funds to create it and then sell it off under privatization a number of years later.. Canada in 10 years, between 1997 and 2007 managed to repay nearly 100 billion of its then 533 billion dollar debt. We are also the only G8 country to register 10 consecutive surpluses. In the late 80's early 90's we had to make our tough choices, and we cut cut cut, and we hiked taxes (which a number of politicians and americans seem to think is a good idea these days). The result was that we did not have the massive debt we once did. Canada has paid its foreign debt, we have always welcomed investment from the United States. I think American politicians should take a look at what we accomplished in that time period because we faced similar problems. Alberta as a province has used its oil revenues to in fact pay off ALL of its foreign debt. The province in fact managed to create a provincial savings account which is paying for its current deficit spending during the recession.
By the way, most Canadians don't hate America. Massive crowds waited to meet President Obama on all of his trips to Canada. Canada stood by you in Afganistan and fought in Kandahar where none of your other allies would. I won't say some of our Liberal politicians didn't use you as a kicking bag more then once. they were met equally loudly by pro-American shouts from Western Canada. Our two nations have shared on of the largest unprotected boarders for most of our history. Built a mutually beneficial trade relationship ( look up with the US state department how many jobs in your home state alone rely on trade with Canada).
It really is.
Hmmmm – I thought that is represented the - Gangof ObstructionistPoliticians !!
Greedy old paltroons?
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Of course China will never truly own America – China would bailout soon enough once signs that America is truly running a ponzi scheme occurs, America would be worthless to ever be considered a reliable debtor nation, the entire international bond market will flee in tandem. Then who will be owning Americans now? Americans themselves. It's your future at stake, China was never the convenient boogeyman it set out to be, because America sucks.
meanwhile, back at the ranch, GAZILLIONS of unwashed poor immigrants brave the deserts and high seas to make their way into the us, mainly to feed off of the remaining carcass(ie tax dollars)so they can go back to their homelands to build bigger and better weapons so they too can wear their big boy pants and contribute to the end of this massive experimental failure called earth. dieties, you really f'd up!
Who washed you when you landed here?? How come you still here ? No money to go back on the BOAT /TONY from where you came from??
scaring ETHIOPIAN and SOMALI pirates with super duper carriers? waste of resources maybe?
Try a trillion + in Iraq and who knows how much in Afghanistan. That was wasting resources, you can at least make an argument that fending of Somali pirates is helping protect people/resources of country that cant do it on its own. Thats not a waste
Fending off pirates from shipping is probably money well spent. Except that we must consider that some shipping is contributing to the debt problem; do we need all those foreign goods, or can we figure out how to manufacture them ourselves?
....................Well America doesn't own itself either, the bankers and Wall street do. What do you say to that author?
It's anyone who owns government bonds and bills = rich people.
Rich people? Do you have a pension plan, 401K, IRA? Mutual Funds? All of these are likely to be partially invested in US Treasury Bonds. So, if you are invested in any of these, you are invested in US Treasuries. Also, your Social Security payments that you made all your life, are currently held as bonds from the federal government. So, unless you have never worked a day in your life, and have no savings, investments, or pensions whatsoever, you are invested in the US Government, like every other working American.
401K? Haven't you heard what happened to people's savings in the last few years? My family saved and saved and... bye bye.
If the 500 or so billionaires and many more millionaires in America gave just half their money to plug this hole (not a yearly tax, but a one-time contribution), all the debt and deficit would be GONE RIGHT NOW.
WE THE PEOPLE need to setup a guillotine on the sidewalk right outside the NYSE. And a second one right outside Goldman Sacks.
umm...can we set one up next to Congress? I would like to run that one if it's OK...
Just the gesture would be fun: get a fake one and some stage magicians...
If all the billionaires and millionaires each contributed half their money (they wouldn't even feel it; they could write a check to buy your house), the debt would be GONE.
By the way, a lot of rich people invent their own religions, or re-write whatever religion they are in, throwing away that part they don't like, because every monotheistic religion says to give to the poor, or else dire consequences in the after life.
You should try working hard and making money some day. Maybe then you'll stop whiny about people who are more skilled that you ever will be making more money than you.
Am I missing something? Read your own figures, China is indeed the largest foreign owner of American debt.
You mis read the statement. The article refutes the supposition that China holds the MAJORITY of US Debt. In Fact, about 2/3's of US debt is held in one way or another by US Citizens, either directly or indirectly. But even China is not the largest single owner of US debt – The Social Security Administration is, followed by the US Treasury. China ranks third behind two of our own Government Agencies. (How that works, i am not sure, but the US Government has managed to become indebted to itself for almost 4 Trillion Dollars!)
Social Security should not cause a debt, because that was paid into by U.S. citizens from every paycheck, and was designed for one worker per family, not the two that are currently working into old age. What happened is that the government dipped into the Social Security fund, then wouldn't pay back, and now blames the people who didn't steal from the fund. And the rich get richer and richer and richer and richer...
My only comment to China is to watch out: you have a new rich class too, and you will see what happens when they manage to drain your ecomony, over-building, stealing from funds, causing environmental disasters, taking away government regulations, and causing a faster and faster spiral downwards. And the rich who promised people jobs in manufacturing will just move on to another part of the world, leaving many Detroits behind.
Now I understand the incesant drum beat to "reform" social security. Just return the money, and all is well. Fund obviously has a SURPLUS. Now, if we stop playing games with numbers, we will realize that well over 50% of all discretionary spending goes into military empire of bases and wars that nobody understands. No country can do this, and manage to keep internal peace. But I do not see any party in power, nor the media, cationing against such gross militarization of society. Especially when such militarization is at this point taking money from funds that were set up and paid for by contributors to provide for old age and sickness. When a military complex stoops this low, and nobody is raising voice - now that is something to think about.
Bianca,
You nailed it!
Thank you.
That is what brought down the Soviet Union....their military empire...It also brought down Rome. Doesn't anybody learn anything? This is what happens when we put lawyers in charge... Chaos...
Rome was militarily overrun. The Romans also had a large welfare state and emperors wasted lots of money. The Romans ended up with a military made up of mostly non-Romans as Roman citizens decided they didn't want to serve. The resulting cost of mercenaries was expensive. Mercenaries also could not be counted on to fight for Rome like Romans did centuries before.
I agree, somewhat. But it is the world's over-population that causes the massive police force. What galls me is that America somehow thinks it has to be that police force.
In the Middle Ages, the nobles started losing money because they kept large armies, while the middle class only gained money. There is no middle class in America; it is all in those countries that only have a small military. But some is necessary, because there really are warlords, terrorists, pirates, and rogue nations; it's just that we don't need the kind of military that we have.
If the social security trust fund holds 2.67 trillion in US debt, wouldn't a US default or even just a rating downgrade essentially ruin that social program?
to Bianca, TsRex et al – Yes The Truth Does Hurt !! And – In my long life – so far I have Not Once headr a Politician or a Govt. official ever mention any plan or intent to RePay (Citizen TaxPayers) the Social Security Fund!
NO MORE WARs – Give Diplomacy and Peaceful Behaviours priority!!
dude what a lame response
No more wars........yeah........okay. And how exactly is that going to happen? Get your head out of your pipe and wake up.
As Teddy Roosevelt once said "Speak softly but carry a big stick"
It is tempting to sneak birth control into all those nations that make war over and over again. Population is the reason for all the military build up, the poverty, and unstable governments, including our own.
The richest Americans want us to increase the debt ceiling and want us to keep running a deficit and lower their taxes. They want the rest of us to be indebted to them forever. It's a cushy job.
And they hide behind the 2nd Amendment, because they know that even an "automatic weapon" couldn't compete with tanks, bombs, spies, etc. The rich use their superior fire-power to keep us all cowed.
We have to get rid of the Electoral College which gives the landed aristocracy two extra votes per red state. We must make America a democracy, and then we can really take back America. We want this democracy, and we want a free market system, but in what way do the super-rich make this a free-market? It is not free if they can undercut everybody else.
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•Money market mutual funds: $337.7 billion (2.4 percent)
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The headline is misleading. Who the U.S. owes debt to is different than you owns actual assets within the U.S. What companies, banks ( notice alot of RBC, TD logos lately) land etc is has been bought up at bargain sale prices since the U.S. screwed up it's economy by the greedy.
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Yes, I think the rich are so rich that they don't care at all; they purposely crashed the economy so that they could buy more of the land, so that when things get "better" (for them), they can RENT it to the rest of us, and the people of America will NEVER OWN ANYTHING.
STILL UNACCEPTABLE! You are saying that almost half of our debt is held by foreign powers and that's just dandy? Earth to Tom, China still holds a substantial portion of our debt and we are currently powerless to pay that off. Tell me that does not affect our foreign policy?
I agree about foreign debt. The trouble is, we have no policy here but feel sorry for the rich, give them more breaks so that they can take more of our money out of the country to start more foreign businesses that will take more American money out of the country, and if everything goes bust, they can buy up all the land and resources so that everybody will owe them for everything. And meanwhile, the exploding population is also part of the problem, but since it keeps people poor, the rich want to prevent people from getting any kind of birth control so that the countries can all go to war against each other and not care that the environment is ruined.
Who owes the United States? How much? Has the US forgiven debt to other nations over the years? What is that adjusted total?
To everyone who says "America sucks", " I hate America", or anything along those lines.... I have an idea for you. MOVE!!! You are NOT STUCK HERE. If you think it's so bad, just go to Mexico, or Afghanastan, or Iraq. We don't need you negative Nancys here.
Actually those who can afford are leaving. It's a sinking ship.
I have HK, Austrilia,and the US citizenship. Guess which one I'm willing to renounce first?
So get the 4377 out and please let the door hit you on the way out. By the way you mispelled australia dummy
I agree. Everybody rich enough to own property in a foreign country should leave the U.S., and leave our money here too.
Real break through, morons- AFTER Americans, who owns the US? CHINA!!!
uhhh, has anyone read the source of who Business Insider is? The disclaimer right on their site says the following leading me to ask if these stats are true:
"Business Insider publishes news, information, gossip, rumors, conjecture, opinions, and commentary. The site includes both reported and edited content and unmoderated posts and comments containing the personal opinions of readers on a wide range of topics. You should be skeptical of any information on Business Insider, because it may be wrong."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/disclaimer#ixzz1SrI8zzxA
That disclaimer belongs on the door to Congress
Priceless
How can America be in debt to itself????....just saying, think about it.
By buying US Treasury bonds...if I remember correctly
Treasury bonds. I pay the govt X now, and the govt pays back X+I to me later. The +I part is the kicker part.
Intergovernmental holdings increased the debt and well look to Social Security as one of the main ones. Social Security has been "robbed" for years by the Government there is no money in it anymore, only IOUs.
because programs like social security and medicare are paid into by the American people for use by the American people not for government use. the government used that money to fund its wars and so on and now has to replace that money. its like if you parents open a trust fund for you to use when your 18 but when you you were 16, the had to dip into it and now owe you money before you hit 18.
Before any laughs at this being an idiotic idea...there is a precedence for this (some guy foreclosed on a Bank of America branch over a dispute on a home loan...and won).
If the numbers are true(and even if they aren't), we as Americans (who are here legally) should find a legalized way to call in that debt. And if there is no action, follow the banks procedures, and start a foreclosure on congress and the white house, who are dragging their feet over the debt.
what? say that again...what do we do? we can foreclose on Congress? Are the courts open tomorrow? Or do I need to wait until Monday?
Treasury bonds are artificially created by printing money out of thin air. They are not backed by anything or any one. Not since the 1920's did we have money that was actually backed by a tangible asset.
It was Aug. 15, 1971. Nixon did it when France demanded debt payments in Gold
I have visited India and China last year. Sorry, no comparison with living here in U.S.A.
I did the same and I agree with you. However, I am witnesssing things are heading for the worse and I Can't See The Light At The End Of The Tunnel. Never lost hope in the past 30yrs but now it seems that way.
I'm appaled and disappointed by Fareed and the respondents to this article for their lack of intellect, commonsense and knowleage of history. So which country abroad owns the united States the most? The answer is very clear and simple and that country is Israel. For example, we give e billion dollars in military aid to Israel anually and another 5 billion in
economic aid, yet we can't even get them to come to the negotiating table to broker a peace deal with the palestinians.
And no matter how many American citizens die at the hands of global terrorists for our double standard support of Israel, yet Israel refuses to weaver and give in to peace or to the US demands. Yea, Isreal owns the US.
Oh good fripping grief, enough with the blame Israel. Who are you Cynthia McKinney.
You're right. Israel, for example, got $3 billion last year while NOAA's request for $500 million was rejected which means NOAA has to cut back on weather forecasting and satellites while Israel gets to continue bombing the crap out of Palestinians. Tax revolt, anyone?
If I'm reading this right, the government is indebted mostly to domestic creditors. Foreign countries own approxmiately 30%. How are some of you still saying they own more? Are my calculations wrong?
In other words freemasons have America under their thumb which is why so many evil laws are being passed recently. In a country that was founded on Christianity, there must be only 1% Christians left there and none in positions of power! Blame yourselves (the voters)!
The Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves.
LOL. Wrong about the past and wrong about the present.
this guy is propagandist. pretty dumb leaving out the whole pie...
While I'm sure it's not intentional, Zakaria's article misses the financial Texas two-step known as foreign aid. Some of the countries from which we have borrowed money are the recipients of financial aid from the United States. Consequently, computation of actual debt should incorporate the costs incurred when money is given away, then borrowed from the recipient and repaid with interest. If the United States gives a country $1 billion, then borrows $1 billion from that country, the net effect is an increase in aid (interest payments) that is written off as debt service. If the money is never repaid, it's a net zero transaction, even though the debt will still be listed. If it is repaid, it's no longer listed as direct debt, but did in fact contribute to the overall national debt. If the Federal government weren't so intent on giving money to foreign countries, our national debt level might not have risen to such profound levels.
Wow...somebody is paying attention. Run for office pal. I'll vote for you...
OK call me dumb. I just don't understand how it can be said that the US Treasury "owns" US Treasury debt. That sounds like saying I have my money in my right pocket and now I put it in my left pocket. Someone please explain........................
And there you have a perfect example of why this nation is in trouble. None of those genius lawyers in Congress can count!
Because this article has an error. It should say Federal Reserve, not US Treasury. You are correct the Treasury can't buy its own debt.
"It is widely understood that the renminbi exchange rate is not the cause of China-U.S. trade imbalances." Ma said. I respond: ma che cosa tu dici! Also spracht Politburo! Not those who understand! The low renminbi exchange is not the cause of China trade imbalances. It is the cause of the imbalances in the rest of the world. That means that theproblem for the world is China's low exchange rate for the renminbi! China cannot be allowed to bankrupt the rest of the world ... without firing a shot!
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I must have missed something, but when i added up the percentages given I only got 75.5%, which means 24.5% is still missing. Also the debt owed figures only add up to about $10.8 trillion not $14.5 trillion. I am not sure what the source of the article is, but they should check their math.
Yup I did the same math – ridiculous! goes to show you can trust (or not).. what a load of rubbish
Corporations own America.
CNN – stop the comments section of your news. Hatred and Radicalism will develop thru CNN portal, and we may have a terrorist given birth by CNN
Perhaps you could reply to the egregious comments instead of calling for silencing of us all? Though, I do relate.... I wipe my a$$ with the first amendment also.
I demand to know who the father is! He needs to help raise the child he and CNN created...
This article is better written:
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/01/is-china-really-funding-the-us-debt/
Wow! One troll comments and the racists come out of the woodwork! Nice!
The numbers above only add to 10.8 trillion and the percents add to 75.5%. Were are the rest of the numbers?
Mars?
It is a good thing we have math. By my count it you have accounted for $10.3 billion or 75.5% of our debt. Who owns the other 24.5%? That leaves a pretty large hole in your analysis.
Thats trillion not billion.
Man this article is full of it. Just what I expected probably cuz Wolf Blitzer and Paula Zahn were probably telling the guy what to write. JEWS own america don't ever forget that! They own cnn and most importantly they own our economy. Bernanke is the guy that prints the money but because of lack of good education in this country most ppl turn to this website because they think they are gonna find all the worlds answers. And no i'm not jewish.
Where do you come up with this nonsense? I think the mirror is reflexing back to you that you wish you were jewish
On, thank you CNN. I feel much better knowing that foreign interests own ONLY 1/3 of our national debt.
Ya, wasn't that nice of them to report that we'll never see 9.8 trillion dollars returned to the US and all it's citizens? That is such a comforting thought...now why do they keep stating the entire amount owed, when they know perfectly well they will never repay any of these debts back to the US programs they stole it from?????
"We regard cow as mother only because she gives you her milk to drink after your mother stopped giving you milk to drink ! "
WHAT AN ARGUMENT! This shows that most Indians are ignorant and stupid morons!
Just say that your religion tells you to worship cows and rats and monkeys.
umm...here in America we worship money.what's the diff?
No more talking! That's your brand new rule
What ! The U.S. owns Social Security trust fund $2.67 trillion dollars of our own money. And their (congress) talking about NOT paying Social Security recipients, who have paid into Social Security the majority of their whole life, no check on August 3rd.. What a minute.., your telling me, that baby-boomers, senior citizens, retired individuals, disabled, veterans, middle-class americans, members of AARP and the poor are not or may not receive their Social Security checks on Augst 3rd.., because the United States Congress borrowed money in the amount of $2.67 trillion dollars and these poor souls will NOT be able to pay their mortgage or rent, utilities, bills, debts and simply trying to put food on the table for themselves or their family with children. There's something wrong with this picture.. If they are NOT paid on Augst 3rd.., who's going to pay for the 'late charge fees' for being late in paying their bills and who is going to fix their 'credit rating', that will be hurt and damaged. Will President Barack Obama, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Virginia pay their late charge fees and fix their credit rating that will surely drop.., I doubt it. So.., Social Security recipients are going to get it, both ways. What a way to bend over and get it, were it hurts the most.., their own pocket book and not being able to pay the rent, bills or put food on the table for their family and children. We certainly have a great House of Representatives, Senate and President. I think.., we voted in the wrong people on both sides. Work your whole life for retirement and Social Security and in the end.., nothing. The rich get richer and the poorer get poorer.., thank you Mr. President, John and of course the most disliked man in congress Eric Cantor. Mike in Montana
After reading this I think that it is time to pay America back and to put a stop to borrowing money from foreign governments. We need to have a BALANCED BUDGET NOW!!!
OBAMA has put us deeper in debt than any other president! It is time to get rid of Obama and his administration, along with everyone in Congress, and get some FRESH blood, with fresh ideas t get us out of the mess that Obama has put us in.
If we, the American public have to live within our means, then I expect our government do the same!!!!
NO YOU CAN THANK THE GOP FOR PUTTIN US IN DEBT OBAMA IS GRABBING THAT SHOVEL AND TRYIN TO DIG US OUT THE HOLE BUSH AND WALL STREET PUT US IN
he needs to stop digging – we are in deep enough I think
@Trout you are a typical Republican with no ability to analyse or think. If a repulican president was it Office now you would not be even reading these columns and the situation would have been a lot worse. You forget that Clinton left 3 trillion surplus, Bush spent it all and put us in the red for another 10 trilion. The Gang of four (Bush, Dick, Cheny, Paul. W) is resposible for most of it, but labor unions and the lawyers also contibuted for much of the manufacturing to move to China. So much of America wealth in IP and manufacturing technology went to China and they paid nothing for it.
The US can pay any amout of debt because it can print $$$ and write of its own debts. Its stupid to argue about who owns the US.
The fundamental problem is that we Americans do not live within our means. We buy cheap foreign goods, but make nothing in return. Paying for those cheap goods depletes our money supply. The money supply is replenished by borrowing more money. Ideally, the consumer would do the borrowing, but after a decade of excess borrowing, th consumer's debt is way way too high. So now the job of borrowing, to replenish our money supply, falls to the government. That is why the government spends stimulus money and why the Fed has programs like the QE2 – to create debt and thereby add money back into the system. Without that money, our economy would collapse.
There is only one solution to this mess – and it isn't balancing the budget. The fix is to make stuff that the rest of the world would want to buy from us. They only thing we have to sell the rest of the world right now is debt.
LOL BET INDIA DNT THINK THE WORLD IS COMMING TO AN END LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE PROBLEM WITH AMERICA IS THEY CANNOT FACE THE FACT THAT THE BIG MAN THEY PUT IN OFFICE FROM 2000 TO 2008 WRECKED THIS COUNTRY,AND NOW YOU INVITED THE TEA PARTY TO THE OFFICE BECAUSE AMERICANS ARE BLINDED BY HATE!!! BE HONEST WHY DID MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE VOTE FOR THE TEA PARTY ,NOT BECAUSE THEY HAD GREAT POLITICAL VIEWS BUT BECAUSE THEY WENT AGAINST OBAMA LMAO!!!!!OH GOD BLESS AMERICA LOL!!!! THEY WOULD RATHER CUT FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS THEN TAX THE BIG COMPANIES THAT TOOK OUR JOBS OVER SEAS SO I ASK THIS WHAT EVER HAPPEN TO"COUNTRY FIRST"?LETS BE HONEST THE WARS SENT US INTO THE PITS OF HELL WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY THANK YOU REPUBLICANS U GET A APPLAUD! NEXT LETTING OUR JOBS GO OVER SEAS AND NOT KEEPING EVERYTHING DOMESTIC FROM AGRICULTURE TO AMERICAN MADE CARS TSK TSK!!!! NOT TAPPING ARE OWN OIL AND IMPORTING IT SUCH A SAD CASE DNT YA THINK!!!OH AND LETTING IN ALL THE IMMIGRANTS LMAO!!! ASK YA SELF DO YOU SEE ANY OTHER COUNTRY WITH MORE IMMIGRANTS THAN AMERICA?HMMMM DNT THINK SO AMERICA HUNG THEMSELVES CHASING A DOLLAR AND A DREAM NOW IT'S TIME FOR US TO HUNKER DOWN AND TAKE THIS ASS WHOOPIN!!!THANK YOU GOP YOU ARE SADLY APPRECIATED!!!!
you must be very lonely confined to that little closet in the attic...don't forget to take you meds troll boy
Either you've never been to America or you live here and you live in your mom's basement. Either way, get a clue. Most Americans don't think this way. If you remember, Bush LOST the popular election, which means a majority of people actually DIDN'T vote for him. And that's more validity than your post deserves.
Let's see.....Hmmmm.....ISRAEL????!!!!
why does it seem like washington dc, is owned and controled by israel? why have american troops been fighting and dieing in israeli false flag wars for the last 20 years? why does everyone in washington fear saying anything negative about israel?. because america owes it's national debt to the federal reserve bank which is owned by the jewish/zionist central banks of europe. america will never be free of debt or war until we close this den of thieves and vipers because war only puts us deeper into debt. a vicious cirle we cannot escape. and everyone in washington dc knows that to challenge the fed will result in their death. one reason why ron paul will never be nominated by the republicans for president. the will nominate mitt romney, george bush in disguise. but how has obama done? obama added 3 more wars, somalia, yeman, and libya.
Obama did not add wars, Somalia was on going; the US is hardy involve in Libya and Yemen is a terrorist state and US is not spending any there either. As for US debts, its a lot of politics to get votes. The US can pay any debt because it can print money, so can any country that can print its own money.
It seems like Washington is controlled by Israel because you have a distorted view of reality. Israel is an ally and is therefore favored by Washington over non-allies like Jordan or Hamas. People in Washington do say bad things about Israel. I have heard many complaints by pro-Israel folks about it. Israel does not control the Federal Reserve. That is your delusion. The Federal Reserve acts in a predictably moneterist fashion and has for decades.
Yes, because Mormons are sooooo in with the Jews. Please, they aren't even in with the Christians. At least Romney has business sense. Bush tanked every business he was put in charge of. As a democrat, Romney scares me less than Bush ever did (but I'm still not voting for him.)
What delicious irony! Our politicians have thrown the successful philosophy of our founders out the window and now grovel at the feet of a failed fascist regime!
Every year our politicians march off to AIPAC to declare their "Absolute" and "Unconditional" fealty to the Israeli regime, a regime spawned by terrorists and based on ethnic supremacy.
"Unconditional" means that the demands of the foreign regime override all other considerations - morality, justice, American principles, American interests.
Forgetting that America once stood for freedom and equal rights, our politicians give billions each year to a regime that keeps millions of people under perpetual occupation and bombardment while using alleged genetic background as the basis for determining rights, a regime that has killed dozens of Americans, a regime that tried to sink one of our warships, a regime that is responsible for the worst spy in U.S. history, a regime that sells our military secrets to our adversaries. This is the regime that our politicians worship!
Why?! Why would they abandon Americanism, a philosophy with a track record of success and brilliance, and sell their souls to a rogue regime with a morally bankrupt ideology of ethnic division?
"Sell" is the operative word. Our politicians fund Israel, and, in return, Israel, through AIPAC, funds our politicians. What a cozy kickback scheme!
Of course, we are not allowed to call it that: Israel might be offended! Here in a country founded on freedom of speech, a foreign power now determines what our public figures are allowed to say.
"The U.S. Treasury: $1.63 trillion (11.3 percent)"- That is the Federal Reserve that owns 1.63 trillion of the debt not the treasury department, big difference. The Federal Reserve is a cartel of private banks that can print money out of thin air then buy our debt with it.
simple math, if the Federal Reserve is responsible for printing and placing value said money, and they loan, say 100$ at 7% how much money is needed to pay back the debit? 107? ok so if the federal reserve prints the money, where do I get the 7$ to pay back the interest? Didnt we rebel against England in part due to freeing ourselves from a central bank? the other part being taxation without representation, which is ironic when you think about it, nearly all of our federal tax dollars go to pay our interest to the federal reserve. can we say New World Order?
You have the math? Add up the percentage points above and you've only listed 75.5% of the debt. So who owns the other 24.5% ??? And then there's the other question nobody even thinks to ask. To find out who owns America you have to ask more than just who owns the debt. That's just one side of the ledger. What about the other side? Does America have a debit balance or a credit balance? You can't judge the financial health of a corporation by looking at only one side of the ledger, or by just looking at their corporate budget now can you? So why does anyone believe that the Federal budget and Federal debt are all there is to the American financial picture? Isn't there something else missing in this picture? Yeah! 50% of the books are missing besides the missing 24% from your list! Just Google "The Biggest Game In Town" if you want to know where to find the other side of the ledger that no one ever talks about.
Cow's milk is for baby cows. Human mother's breast milk is for human babies. Goat milk is for baby goats. And so on and so forth. After a baby grows, they should stop drinking such milk. They shouldn't start drinking the milk of another! Think about it, it is disgusting. BE VEGAN!!!!
Who else but George Soros...
So why do the repb. say social security is brok?. They borrowed 2.67 trillion, and now they want to cut S.S.
At this point, can USA issue a Year of Jubilee, a cancellation of all debts internally and externally? What happens then? No one is starving in USA, you know. Will the rich and Chinese people be in trouble and get upset? What's the value of money to a human being?
Can USA issue a Year of Jubilee, a cancellation of all debts internally and externally? What happens then? No one is starving in USA, you know. Will the rich and Chinese people be in trouble and get upset? What's the value of money to a human being?
CNN, why can't I post here? Didn't I keep the manner?
Why do indian households smell the pits of vishnu?
fyi
Fascinating!! What I want to know is what the Congress is going to do to pay down the debt to Social Security and the millions who do hope to receive promised benefits. It seems to me that the politicians are lying to those who are now receiving Social Security and to those who hope to receive it in the near term and mid term future. They claim that they will have to require recipients to wait a couple more years so they can avoid paying what they honestly owe to those who have, and are paying into the Trust Fund and then claiming that they cannot be certain that the fund will be solvent after 2025 or thereabouts. This is a huge crock of crap. They, the pols know it. They really want to take that money so they can continue to cut taxes and still be able to continue the lying while they bankrupt the nation in the furtherance of their own aims to reduce the size of the Central Government to the point where it will be overwhelmed by the political power of the states. It appears to me that what the Republicans and Tea Party radicals really want is a continent with Canada and Mexico being the major powers and a Confederation of 50 states that will spend eternity arguing amongst themselves over what they are going to permit private citizens to do, but will be powerless to defend itself. I for one do not want to live in such a place.
Let us print more money, $13 Trillion of it. That way we can pay off the US debt and be in good credit standing. We own the dollar presses don't we, then we can print as much money as we want. Screw the rest of the world.
wouldnt that cause inflation?
We keep hearing about how much debt the US owes other countries but how much debt do other countries owe us? When we get that information, then the debt will be more accurate. (Of course we'll never get that information, will we?)
The gulf wars were left out??????hellooooo
FAREED, YOUR NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP!!!
TOM, YOUR NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP!!!
I like it how people have nothing better to do than argue/bash other countries for the sake of their own happiness...pretty pathetic world we live in. GROW UP IDIOTS!
Actually... God owns America. America owns nothing. He provided us with America, yet we disgrace him and don't appreciate or thank him for what he's given us. That is why we are in debt. That is why false Christianity, war, then famine, and then pestilence will come. Things will get much much worse. If we were to thank God for his great gift, this would all be prevented, however America won't. We now cannot do anything about other countries pointing and laughing at us, because we aren't "powerful" enough anymore to do so. God has taken our pride away, and he will not give it back, ever! We have been blinded by so many "prophecy experts" such as Nostradamus, or even your local pastor at church. Over the many years of human dominance on Earth, ideas and human interpretation have been created. Jesus' disciples came to him while he sat on the Mount of Olives. "Tell us, when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" (Matthew 24:3) Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am Christ,' and will deceive many." (Matthew 24:4-5) War is right around the corner. Many countries are considered nuclear countries. "You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom." (Matthew 24:6-7) Famine ALWAYS follows war. Famine is also all over the world. With the American economy and country about to collapse to a third world country, we will not be able to support other countries because we won't even be able to support ourselves. "There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the BEGINNING of birth pains (beginning of the worst to come)" (Matthew 24:7-8). We are running out of food an water as well. We were once called the "Bread Basket". Larry Matlack, President of the American Agricultural Movement (AAM), explained that the entire USDA Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC) inventory would be reduced to 2.7 million bushels of wheat – roughly enough to make only one-half loaf of bread for each person in the US! (Tri-State Observer). Pestilence (disease) always follows famine. Many diseases have sprouted up and are IMMUNE to ALL kinds of antibiotics. One example of this is the new skin virus called MRSA (mersa). Many old diseases such as tuberculosis is returning from what was thought of as "extinct". Now diseases are strong enough to withstand antibiotics. Diseases sprouting up today (new and old), are much more powerful and dangerous than old diseases. Many people will be very angry with this post, however this is why we have these problems. We do not own America, nor does any nation or kingdom of this Earth. God owns America, and he WILL take it away just as quickly and easily as he GAVE it to us!
Well said and I agree.
Barf..you are why I dont respect most Christians...this kind of thing..really? we are talking debt here NOT religion
....get a life people. If you want to argue and act like you know what you're talking about, join the debate team.
All you haters must be looser who can't get their priorities straight and not get educated. When will 'you people' (conventional white & black) wake up? Us Asians are taking over higher paying jobs and all is left for 'you people' is flip burgers.
DON"T Hate the player, hate the game – looser.
The facts is Americans love America but Americans hate each other. I was born and raised in India and moved to the United States. I have seen your pathetic lousy education system (KG to 12) where students are more interested in football/cheer leading/ cooking class etc.
There are two subjects called Mathematics and Science. If you haven't taken then don't bother and do your lazy bums a favor and convince your children to taken these subjects. lol
I have pity for you losers
You are a example of a sick Indian in usa.. People like you can come back to country..yoU HAVE Become home sick..
Do you think usa education is patehtic..If its so patetic then why will all Indian elite come to study in Usa..?? So dont try to fool people. Some times beggars recive money and they think they recived a lot of money ..I have seen many indians like this ..There are again a lot of good indians in usa.. But some like you are really sick..
So, as we've been warned, the gov't has raided Social Security coffers for operating revenue-now that the bill is due the Republicans want to "wish" the debt owed to Social Security away.
The FBI and DEA fabricate evidence, steal from suspects and use murder to close their bad cases.
The FBI and DEA harrass suspects for many years and to the extent that they intentionally create their own terrorists and criminals when evidence shows that the suspect was never involved in their alleged original crime.
After reading the first few comments I felt bad for India... But you know the one thing I can say for sure about the BRIC countries... we still have enough nukes to get em all.
good then you dont need all the american outsource customer service jobs; nothing irratetes me more then calling bell canada becuase phones are done and ending up in india and having to deal with some smart ass; or calling dell for tech support and you cant understand a word they say; so thats why after 20 years of beinga bell customer dropped them and turfed the dell dude
So much hate around here... For the Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis, other Americans. You know that if we met in person, we would all probably like each other. if we got to know one another we would probably call eash other friend.
And by the way, who cares who is best, who has what problems... We ALL have issues.
Saudi owns a majority of US, they just listed the debts..
India is a hot, humid, over populated cesspool of humanity. You can keep it.
The truth is.......that SS would be just fine, if the fund wasn't loaning billions to Obama to squander away on worthless programs.
Chinese human rights abuses:
第二个视频是假的。作为一个中国人，在有的地方的却收到限制，但是没有你们美国人想象的那么坏。请还原一个真实的中国。
Well now we know how much money our government has stolen from the Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion
Certainly, India is behind China in terms of development. But the development of China is like any other product they manufacture – cheap copies of other products; This is not sustainable and one flick will bring the whole pack of cards down...it is driven by the top...you are right, India has the worst government, pretty bad and archaic caste systems, and a huge population of slumdogs...we are growing at a very healthy 8 to 10% every year inspite of all the possible faults you could point out. This is sustainable – we are bottom up growth model. Our financial system for all its faults is pretty stable than most economies...take the oil crises, or the Asian crisis or the recent recession – India escaped virtually unscathed. and believe me it will continue. If the American is anything like a strategic thinker you would not worry about China now, but start thinking of how to really engage India – because you do not know if your children will get anything from China, but will thrive because of India....Jai Hind
I am looking for a foreigner friend，I teach you Chinese，you teach me English
I'll take you up on the offer would like to learn Chinese from a native speaker !
谁是中国人
我是。你也是吗？看着骂中国的言论，很难过，一方面我们的确有不好的，但是没有他们说的那么坏呀。
Well you have accounted for 72%, what about the other 28%?
Enjoyed the discussion with the Foreign Minister of Morocco, but I was sorry that you did not mention the situation of Western Sahara, a reluctant possession of Morocco.
I, too, am sad that Western Sahara was not mentioned. They have a right to independence from Morocco.
Many people commented about Toilets In India. But we have the best practice of toilet training, like washing the Anus with water, which is a hygiene practice rather than using toilet paper. In US, the poverty ratio is higher than the india ratio. Claimed to be Super power but failed to remove the poverty in America, also heath care system and so many which are not available to lower income people. Noon meal system was copied from indian system.
no doubt ISRAEL owns USA, they got US by the dolls
lol,,,,,DONT FORGET THAT INDIANS ARE THE BIGGEST CONSUMER OF COW-COLA IN WORLD,,,,,LOL,,,,,AND INDIANS ARE THE LARGEST EXPORTER OF THE MOST UGLY AND STINKIEST CREATURES ON THIS PLANET EARTH,,,INDIA ROCKS,,TATA ROCKS,,,MITTTAL ROCKS,,,,,,
The big # in here is the Social Security trust fund owns 19% of US DEBT, and has been ROBBED of our money that we have contributed (myself over the last 31 years) and will never be paid back. Any politician that wants to steal more of our money, needs to GO!
Here we go again...making the numbers say what we want.
Only here is a new fiction"The SSI Trust Fund"..a complete, nonexistant only-on-paper device to screw Americans out of the only thing between millions of us and starvation.
Go back to your TeaParty buddies with that one...don't peddle it to the public.
As it turns out in the reality based on actual science, it isn't our debt, our currency, or the amount of gold that nations own that will determine their survival and fate over the next 100 years. All of those things are based on human perception of value. However, perception has always been and still is a false god.
In scientific reality all life is dependent on – not gold, but phosphorus. According to the most recent and IMO very conservative estimates the world will begin to run out of cheap available phosphate sources in about 30 years – peak phosphate. Phosphate is the most critical component of the chemical fertilizers. It's the "P" we see in the NPK fertilizer ratio on our lawn and other fertilizer bags. Turns out 95% of all human food production is dependent on peak petroleum (nitrogen from natural gas) and peak phosphate. We aren't going to experience another green revolution, we aren't even going to be able continue the first one.
So in the real world, the nations with the most and cheapest access to phosphorus/phosphates are going to be the survivors – if any of us survive. The real lack of professional credibility of media – not to mention our political leadership is truly revealed – because you will not likely see much mention of peak phosphorus or how it will affect the lack of human food supplies. So, go ahead an worry about your children's financial futures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphate
ALL these comments? Did ANYONE even notice that the math does not add up? All the debt listed equates to 75.5% and does NOT show Americans holding 9.8 Trillion in the debt.
I think this is a huge example of how oblivious, vulnerable and ignorant we can be. We read many, many articles just like this and we then think we are well informed, stick our noses and heads high in an arrogant manner.
Look at all the time and effort that is involved in the comments here yet the foundational data is wrong! I think this is also an example of how people reason and think when they vote. It's proof we are toast!
The article speaks of who owns US debt, not who owns private corporations in the U.S. or the world.
That would be a whole new interesteing articles.
Look at Forbes.. the richest people in the world. And be sure, some of the richest are so rich they will not even be in that list.
So if I write an I.O. Me for one billion dollars, I get to be on the cover of Forbes?
Thank for enlightening me that when the Biggest Bubble in History pops, it's not just the Chinese that get....
In that case, could some of you genuises from China and India go teach Mexico some economics 101 so they'll stop sucking the american taxpayers dry?
One glaring fallacy; you cannot owe yourself money.
FriendsofIndia is either a Paki or a Muslim.
UM, Hong Kong IS part of China. To imply that it is a separate nation is like saying DC is separate from the USA.
WHERE IS THE US TAXPAYER REALLY GOING?
US COVER UP. PENTAGON MISSING TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS
FriendsofIndia, clearly, you are a phony Paki or CCP paid scare monger inciting hate.
Who would want to print such a weird mix of self-defeating mockery with nonsensical gloats?
China is the USURER holding the largest amount of US DEBT. You are trying to divert attention of the american public from that fact.
If India is doing better than before, it is because of a vibrant economy.
1. While we might or mightn't be the largest economy in the world, a more equitable and free economy is our goal. Our 'elected' government is striving for that.
2. And yeah, India produces able corporate leaders : http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2084441-2,00.html
Now, that's something that cannot be copied, pirated or faked as is common in China.
If you are a Paki, well, enough said. After the US cut aid recently, the chinese 4$$ is a gold mine for you. That explains it all.
Very nice collection of statistics. However, when you changed to what was "smart" I wondered. Anyone doing the exact opposite of whatever CNN money suggests would get rich!
So much hate in this board.
No country or race can dominate the world forever. Even mighty Rome had its fall. Its a cycle and it is a good thing.
Pakis hate Indians for one reason and one reason only: Most Indians are Hindus and therefore believe in many gods, something those Muslims just can't wrap their heads around or accept (thank their murderous prophet for that bit of backwardsness). However, Indians have a real reasons to hate Pakis: they're lying, treacherous murderers (something the US has realized first hand, these last few months especially). Horrible country and that is evident from the comments those trolls are posting.
They made pretty creepy mistake: US treasury owes to FED – not to US treasury as they wrote at the second last point. Well.. what to expect from newspaper writers...
That's no mistake, baby. It was deliberate. They'd rather not speak the name of the evil force behind all of our monetary problems - a secret society of European and Israel bankers who yank the rest of around like dogs on a chain and reap $trillions in profits.
As it turns out in the reality based on actual science, it isn't our debt, our currency, or the amount of gold that nations own that will determine their survival and fate over the next 100 years. All of those things are based on human perception of value. However, perception has always been and still is a false god.
In scientific reality all life is dependent on – not gold, but phosphorus. According to the most recent and IMO very conservative estimates the world will begin to run out of cheap available phosphate sources in about 30 years – peak phosphate. Phosphate is the most critical component of the chemical fertilizers. It's the "P" we see in the NPK fertilizer ratio on our lawn and other fertilizer bags. Turns out 95% of all human food production is dependent on peak petroleum (nitrogen from natural gas) and peak phosphate. We aren't going to experience another green revolution, we aren't even going to be able continue the first one.
So in the real world, the nations with the most and cheapest access to phosphorus/phosphates are going to be the survivors – if any of us survive. The real lack of professional credibility of media – not to mention our political leadership is truly revealed – because you will not likely see much mention of peak phosphorus or how it will affect the lack of human food supplies. So, go ahead an worry about your children's financial futures – we really have far bigger problems than financial ones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphate
So...this discussion has managed to drift considerably off track. Intentionally or randomly.
Did you notice a few things about this report? 1) The percentages don't add to 100. Only 75. So...where is the other 25% of the dept?
2) The largest holder is the "Social Security Trust Fund". Go to the Social Security site and you will see that the Trust Fund is made up of "non-marketable securities" and the cash goes to the general fund. Ahhh....that is spent...and what we have is....IOU's! So, 20% of the debt listed here...isn't real money. 3) the Treasury owns 11% of their own debt? How does that work?
Basically, this is bogus and meant to convince us everything is OK. Why would CNN do that?
I am from India and my country is a can of trash. It is at best organized chaos. I do not agree with the moron: 'FriendsofIndia' who is responsible for making what I perceive as some of the most outrageous comments by anyone on CNN. Could you all please stop this polarized and abusive discussion?
The so called 'Trust Fund' is composed of 'Special Issue' bonds that are NON-NEGOTIABLE. They are worthless toilet paper that congress has the right to declare null & void at any time. I would like to see them converted into standard Treasury Bills & congress forbidden to touch them. That way the fund could sell them to make payments & the legalized embezzeling would stop.
This is scary. This is not the America I used to know. Even with all the debt, America used to take care of its own people. Now it seems that the no one cares about anyone anymore.
Lies All lies. We the Tea Party believe that ALIENS own America. We must take it back from the ALIENS!
Long live JESUS CHRIST and LOVE LIVE GAWD.
who owns America?
Zakarias, for you information America in composed of over 30 different countries like Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraquay, Bolivia, Brazil, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Suriname, Guyane, Guyana, Venezuela, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Cuba, Jamaica, Haiti, Bahamas, Mexico, Canada just to mention some of them, these countries in the american continent hold an area of about 9,826,675 km/2 with a population of about 600 millions people tobe excluded when you referred to the united states of America as being America by it's self... so the question should be who owns the united States of America.
Add up all those percentages and see what you come up with. I stopped at around 65% and didn't include anything past the decimal point. So...where's the other ~ 20 percent that is not accounted for?
I added up your list of numbers here and it seems as though you have missed some info. Your chart does not add up it totals 10.814 Trillion of the 14 trillion in debt. 4 Trillion dollars is not accounted for in your list. If you add up your reported % of debt it comes to 74.6%. Why in your article did you not mention that this list was incomplete and who owns the last 4 trillion of debt? Very miss leading article if you ask me. While i do not know who owns this missing 4 trillion if it is China then china owns 5.2 trillion ( 4 trillion missing + Hong Kong Debet + china debt) and that would be 37% of US debt. Of course i do not know this because the 4 trillion is not in this article.
Anyone got a trillion dollars in the bank to pay off China? Didn't think so. When you owe someone money and you cannot pay them back, they "own" you.
On another note, having the biggest company, bridge, airport means nothing. Having water and fertile ground to feed your people means everything. If the world economy collapsed tomorrow, we could still feed our people. Our lives would change dramatically, but we would get through. That's what matters.
Wait till our hyperinflation next year. Then we can use one of those shiny new 10 trillion dollar bills and paid ourselves off.
The question is not who US owns to. The Question is Why the world keeps invest into the U.S.
The question is Why the wold can't use their surplus for any other better investment?
The old said: The money is not your money until it is in your hands.
The premise that you may owe yourself money is false. Therefore, China does hold the largest amount of our debt.
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I have a question pertaining to this whole "economic armageddon" that is plaguing the US.
My understanding of this whole situation, bar several highly complicated and stressful factors, is that on one hand you have one party wanting to increase tax revenue and lessen spending to pay the debt; on the other hand you have a second party wanting to prevent any tax increases and rather reduce or scrap the health care law in place.
Now, to the question: Why would a political party want to reduce or "roll back portions" (in otherwords "scrap") the health care law when it benefits the whole nation, all 308+ million people)?
Now this brings up a serious food for thought for the majority of you, and it really comes down to choices: A) Reduce (hint: scrap) the health care law; B) Increase tax revenue & reduce government spending
What would you rather have? Other factors also come in to play, such as the credibility of the health care law, which would prompt some to say yes, reduce the bloody thing. Others, who cannot afford private health insurance, would say yes, increase tax revenue and reduce spending.
Another factor to consider would be the ultra-high military spending over the last 5 decades. Is it really necessary for the USA to continuing serving as Protector of the World while at home it's facing rampant challenges to costs, economic destability and also general public dislikes of government interventions in other nations?
If posed on the question at hand; what would you be your decision on this whole situation?
Dude, we have been fired as the "Protector of the World."
Pride comes before destruction. America owes America $9.8 trillion. America then should just forgive himself and forget his pension funds. America owes America, easy on the ears, but pride always comes easy.
we know the U.S. don't own the U.S.
I wonder what would have happened had Truman not discharged General Douglas MacArthur following the general's intention to declare war with Red China during the early years of the Korean War. It is without a doubt a fact that any nation who goes to war against America will surely lose. America is not only the biggest economy in the world, currently standing for decades past, but it is also the most technologically advanced military nation in the world. So it is no surprise then that if America and Red China had gone to war then, Red China would have lost more than its economy. The nation would have shattered completely in the face of American brute force. Fast forward 6 decades, America is still the most technologically advanced nation in the world. However, in saying that, it can no longer guarantee 100% victory in wars. Other nations have adapted, more so especially China. China, after decades of social, political and economical reforms, stands to outpace America as the biggest economy in the world. So what does this mean? In the short term, it will not affect America. In the long term, the worry starts to set in. In the words of the wise Abraham Lincoln: "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
So, why don't we just forgive our debt to ourselves and that will knock off about 10 trillion dollars. Would make more sense than borrowing and raising the debt ceiling, wouldn't it? Besides, we always forgive everyone else's debt.
I always thought Hong Kong was part of China, or did my geography teacher fail me?
This is all true, but China is a largest single foreign shareholder of US debt...but he is right, people don't understand the make-up of all this money we owe. Look at how much is owed Social Security…and Republicans behave as if that is what is causing our financial ruin…what a bunch of liars!
The total percentage is not 100%. In fact, far from it. The table is flawed.
4,5 billion out of 14,3 is still a large foreing exposure (over 31%) and America doesn't have older siblings like Germany and France who will help out if things go wrong.
As an outside observer, I feel India is just slightly better off then most poorest nations in the world. Go and see dehli/mumbai/kolkata/chennai at night you will find millions sleeping on the roads. Look at the shanty towns of almost all major cities. Its like people with no standards of living. Don't be fool about Indian media they show good pic which is less than 1% of the total population. So much poverty and lack of health and services its hard to believe unless you go and see by yourself. I don't think india is anywhere near a power. Need more than just few decades to feed 1.5 billons two meals a day. Sad but true.
Who holds the other 24.5% of the debt?
Has anyone checked the math on the article? If you count it all up, it is only 75.5% and 10.8108 trillion. Where is the rest of the money? That is alot of money to leave out of an article when your talking about where the money is.
stop hating on Fareed just because hes banging a white girl
If I owe myself money, can't I just keep what I have as payback to me?
Worthless people wasting time on ignorant and non-relevant comments and reply. Do something useful for your country and the world.
Okay, why don't you lead by example. Turn off your computer.
I may not be on a par with all the other brainiac posters on this article who somehow got off on a bent over one person's departure about India. But, I can still count, and using what God gave me in the way of counting assistance i:e,
fingers and toes...my total for the ownership of outstanding debt in this article is 75.5%. Hmmmm.wonder who owns the remaining 24.5% and why the esteemed author of this otherwise informative article chose not to reveal this information??? In the end, there is just way toooomuch information out there and most of it just has very little credibility.
But, this was fun and now I'm off and back to the essential counting of my digits ,just so I can keep that essential tool finely tuned and ready for the next analysis. CNN I am disappointed in your work here.
Most interesting thing is that the information presented does not even add up. The total presented is $10,815 billion and then it says the total is $14,300 billion that leaves $2,485 billion falling through the cracks.
If this is a clarification, no wonder people are confused.
hahahaha this dumb stinky guy would like to rule America and the world with his smelly and ideology of caste slavery mindset. those who are humble would rule and those who are arrogant and boastful like this guy will bow down and become slave . . . =) lol Put your response in the toilet . . . lol =) have a bad day! let me know if you need some medicine for a heart attack! =) lol
Did anyone else notice the obvious? The article is about US debt- the comments are about nothing related to US debt!
When you look at History, say the past 150 years . All of Civilized Society owes it's existence to America. How do you measure that in dollars and cents!?
Just one question: Who owns the controlling interest in US banks and mutual funds? And, as a corollary to that question - where is Social Security money invested - in the US or abroad? This article is a joke! Whichever way you look at it, whichever country (other than the US) has the most money controls most of the debt of the US government.
The IMF and the Zionists OWN the US...
Hey, the numbers above sum to 75.5%. That's a pretty big margin of error. Where's the rest?
India is the SUPREME POWER OF EARTH. WE ARE OPTIMUS PRIME. Do not EVER mess with INDIA. We have smartest people on the planet , most beautiful women and BEST CURRY EVER COOKED. WE OWN USA.
Wake up, America. Your country (your land and your people) is being exploited by the banks, the gov't, and the big companies of the worlds. Not only that, they also sell you off to other countries. They borrow loads of money and now YOU and your children have to pay them back. They've misled you to fight wars for their own benefit. Open your eyes right now. Search for "war is a racket". It's written by one of the most decorated Marine in U.S. history. It will show you the REAL TRUTH behind wars. Please read it now, and have your children read it, too.
Interesting, the US Treasury owns over $1.6 Trillion in US Debt. This is money that the government owes to itself. Seems then the fastest way to solve a huge chuck (11%) of our debt problem is for the government to forgive the money it owes to itself. There is ZERO reason for the US Treasury to be making interest off of money that it owes to itself. So forgive the $1.6 Trillion, and we would not need to cut near as much ... and can stil avoid a default, without the need to raise taxes.
Every time I see this tally sheet it reminds me of the of movie Dumb & Dumber where they spend all the money from the briefcase: “What is this? Where's all the money? Lloyd: That's as good as money, sir. Those are I.O.U.'s. Go ahead and add it up, every cent's accounted for.”
Why doesn't america have a fire sale? Put up some states for sale? Maybe this Sunday, there will be a garage sale and some states will be discounted for cold hard cash by some strong countries like Canada and Mexico.
This article simply prove that figures can't lie, but liars sure can figure.
Where are the Federal Reserve's holdings in this list?
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The total of debt percentages given, does not add up to 100% It would have been nice to see where the rest was, even if for simplicity's sake, the smaller holders have to be included as groups, like Asian Dragons, etc.
Tossers is what you all are.
USA economy supports the whole world. When is the last time anybody watched a movie from china, or listened to a song from india? The whole world is watching everything we do and trying to say we are fat lazy and stupid but we still run the world
tick tick tick....................................
This is old news. Buffet said invest in India a year ago at least. Catch up fellas.
Is this article supposed to make anyone feel better about our debt? Because if it is, you'll have to do a lot better than that.
I bet this guy is a Pakistani troll. He talking absolute nonsense. Trying his best to screw the Indo-US friendship. Or perhaps, worse, seeking cheap publicity.
All that is being accomplished now in Washington is the driving of investment money into gold and the Swiss franc.
As I have watched the economic crisis unfold (and unfold some more) I cast about for something to do with my money. People kept saying "gold." But I stayed skeptical for a long time.
Like most people in our generation, I am an avid reader of the news and GOLD as a hedge kept popping up as a topic in relation to the uncertainty in Washington, Wall Street, Europe.
But the only kind of "hedge" I knew was the kind that went around the yard.
So, I asked an older friend of mine (near 80 at the time and a Wall Street maven his whole life – old school). When he said "gold may be the only answer right now," it finally persuaded me to dabble. But I was really just a dabbler. Nothing more. That, however, changed.
I won't give you a rags-to-riches routine, because a) I wasn't wearing rags and b) the returns have been delightful, but I haven't won the lottery or anything like that.
What I learned is that the trick is staying on the right side of the gold behemoth. Long or short.
There is so much money to be made whether gold is on the uptick or down-tick. Just have to know when to get in and get out. The "how" is, as always, the sticking point.
For what seemed like the longest while, I was in the gold markets but not really OF them. I didn't get the whole dynamic.
Like everyone else, I was skeptical of ANY forecaster: how can anyone figure this out?
But Gary Wagner of the Gold Forecast is shockingly accurate. It is truly uncanny. So, I am recommending him and his small, stellar company. http://tinyurl.com/3wvd2mz
Gee, my money would have been on Israel.
It is a good thing we have math. Where is the rest of the debt? These numbers do not add up to 100% (not even close).
I think you're missing the point here. If America defaults on it's loan to China and they decide they want the money back – American is going to have to borrow from somewhere else, because it sure can't afford it – so they scrounge and beg and cut costs which will normally mean education cuts and local government cuts which will be ok because the streets will need cleaning and the US will be producing street cleaners from its schools. No more pay raises, but the price of goods will go up so companies can cover the ever increasing overheads. More unemployed people foreclosing on their homes fighting for jobs.
And who owns the IMFand the World Bank? These stats are misleading and anyway anything that comes out of CNN is usally some form of manipulated media program to glorify the position of the capitalist marketeers. The Indians here in the states, come here and act like little dictators. They have been extremely rascist to my afro-american friends and treat the mexicans like they would someone from a lower caste, as if they were gods gift to the authoritarian world. I've had more than a few run ins with them because of their arrogant nasty behavior, in which case they quickly back down. Quite frankly, I've never had a positive experience with any of them.
Um, one major concern here that should have been mentioned in the article. Because of the retiring baby boomers, Social Security payouts now exceed collections so now social security has to start redeeming those US government securities, which means that debt has to be sold to someone else. So while China may not be the biggest debt holder, it will be unless congress acts to restore the solvency of social security. That can be done by cutting benefits and/or increasing social security tax rate. Both very popular ideas with the mainstream public...no?
NonZionist is WRONG. Very little American aid goes to Israel. The Palestinians and other enemies of our country receive substantial American aid. Here in America, tons of people are on welfare, and a lot of that goes to people who aren't even citizens. Let's not forget the wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq, costing the country hundreds of billions of dollars. Israel had NOTHING to do with any of this!! Israel is our ally, and we should indeed help each other. I find it amusing how "nonzionists" fault Israel for everything, the way our enemies fault America for eveyrthing. I shudder to think how our nation is morphing into a confederacy of hatred.
Wow! I had no idea....That is amazing. When you put data out there it sure makes you change some long standing views.
I'm not sure if it's accurate but if it is then every news station in America should post that TONIGHT!
We could pay off all those 1% countries and get all our overseas debt gone in a few years. It makes it more like a personal budget. Get the little stuff gone then work on the big stuff....mainly OURSELVES.
Best article I've read in a long time.
Put it on CNN tonight.
If we own most of the debt, then why have we mortgaged off over 40 of our National Parks? (btw, Bush II started that, Obama only continued it...). Anyway you look at it, we are in serious financial sh.... as a Country!
As the article leads with "But it's a good thing we have math.", it is interesting that the percentages don't add up to 100%. Who owns the missing 25%?
Including intragovernmental holdings (the social security trust fund, U.S. Treasury) is silly, since the concept of the government owing itself money is just a bookkeeping construct. An IOU written to yourself is neither an asset nor a liability.
The United States of America belongs to the citizens of The United State of America.
The government has squandered, and continues to squander, TAX funds collected from the people.
The debt is owed to us.
Time to sue the FED for abuse of a position of trust.
I trust my tax money is spent on improving the country but it seems to be falling into deep pockets of politicians and lobbyists.
YOU'RE ALL FIRED!
Here, here!!!
Can we start by adjusting their salaries? I mean seriously... $400,000 + $50,000(for expenses)/yr?! AND... not only that but a continued salary and medical after their term is over? @ how long have we been supporting them?? adds up, just sayin..
Its the hard working people right here that post all these comments, that's who owns America
You people are missing the point of the article. Its that Americans have too much debt majority of which is owned by Americans. It has nothing to do with India or China. Instead of fixing our economy, politicians and the media keep conjuring up the boogeymen of the east, India and China, and scaring us with stories of a Chinese take over and being forced into slavery. In the meantime, India and China continue growing and outpacing us in education.
"For all these a million reasons, submit to your fate under our Hindu colossus, beg our 5-rupee meal middle classes, bow to our super powers.
Jai Hind!"
The above is the reason why so many hate and say so about India. Unfortunately there are many like this one in the world, so would you bother yourself trying to comprehend insanity and immorality among our little friends?
At the same time, having had lived for couple dozens of years here, I find Indians among the most tolerant and hard working, very beautiful (girls), and I love, among many other things from India – my favourite Mota Set. I swear I'd give up any food for this one, it's just the best food out there.
Indians, are just another large part of humanity, and if they achieve something and are proud of it, I personally admire and support them, even share their pride deep inside me somehow.
I feel sad when Indians call Pakistanian as Paki, Puki, etc., because they are essentially same people. Aslo these events in Pakistan nowadays lives little hope for war-less forseeable future, not to mention nukes in the hands of so "religious" gentlemen in Pakistan.
There is one more thing I'd like to mention, it's the way Indian folks walk in the street; they always tend to push you off to the left on the sidewalk. I was only recently able to realize it was ah inheritance from Britons who drive and walk unlike the rest of the world.
One would have to live and try to survive in India in order to comprehend why and what that creature stated above. Apart from all this, they are fine human beings, perhaps the most quiet ones I've seen this far.
Seriously is there a single cent in the "Social Security Trust Fund"?
Wow – clearly lots of the greatest American minds on this comment board. And people wonder why our elected representatives call each other names instead of present ideas and solutions, and why we as a people have a growing reputation as bullies, anti-intellectuals, and blowhards. The answers are all here in these lovely thoughtful and respectful, and not to mention well-written comments. -sigh-
Bit of a problem with your math and attribution. One cannot borrow money from yourself. When individuals do it, we call it fraud. We governments do it, we call it printing money. Your totals include 30.3% owned by the "US Treasury" and "Social Security Trust". As stated, you can't borrow money from yourself. Try loaning yourself a $1 million and see how far you can spend. There actually has to be a backer other than the borrower for there to be real money.
It's so funny to watch you pakis and smelly chinese sit here and debate whose taking over the world next, lol. For one, your crappy societies are not built upon respect for the individual and the American (and western anglo culture really) culture, superior intelligence, etc will always win out over your slimy, corrupt and smelly countries. You have so many abuses to human rights, so much poverty, etc.LOL sometimes I woder if Chinese people realy have souls or if they are robots that only crave money.
The world is never going back to a world hegemon. But if you did outgrow us, the US would probably just find an excuse to 'liberate' you and blow your country back into the stone age with our superior military. Stop sitting around adreaming of this day in the future when you will be on top (as if that matter for any one of you billions of insects) because you have forgotten one simple truth, AMERICANS are better than YOU.
You dont deserve space on this forum which is intended for intelligent debate. P
Why do we have to separate AMERICANS from the rest of the world, why do we want to blow a country to stone age? We are all human beings, why can't we live as one?
there is good reason for the paki's and china to attempt dividing india and america...
america and india are natural allies, while paki and china are both our natural enemies
the day will come when america and india will have to face down the other 2
name the only country in the last 60 years to fight china and not lose their country? India
yep we in america want and need india on our side
"India is very slippery" Nixon. US and India are good fellows in bed.
This is why Republicans want to kill Social Security, so they can steal that $2.7 TRILLION that Social Security has invested in the USA.
why did you people come to America?
Yes, why did you?
You know...
America is "for the people."
Virtually everyone here is a product of immigration. Why is there so much separation due to race? Dumb.
Get along already.
And since the FED can't seem to find a solution to the debt fiasco they created, perhaps they should open a public forum and get ideas from the people it matters to most. AMERICANS!
"China's foreign exchange reserves increased by 197.4 billion U.S. dollars in the first three months of this year to 3.04 trillion U.S. dollars by the end of March."
You have to factor in the trade deficit we have had since the 70s.
Focus more on USA than Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, China and Pakistan. Pull armies from all the 80 countries around the world. Focus on job creation, small housing industry, alternative energy etc and everything will get back to normal. One can live in the same great United States we used to live a decade ago. I think the biggest key is straightening THE FOREIGN POLICY and cut military spending.
It does not matter that we owe money to ourselves. It's even worth when you owe money to yourself. It does not even matter who owns America. It could be for the better if we did not own it, since it's just plain liability and not an asset right now. It matters that there is no money to pay back to Social Security. And the times when we could borrow are gone. We can’t emit money without screwing the economy completely. These times are gone. “The biggest game in town” – yeah… that’s it. They sucked me dry twice now… Tech bubble, Housing bubble… Now they say: you paid Social Security taxes just for fun. Damn, I’m getting tired.
The real answer is that "privately owned" bank called the Federal Reserve
They can't take us over till they take our guns. We will not let that happen. He who controls the Printing Press. Can just print more money. Go figure. Its not worth the paper its printed on. It cost more to print than its worth. Go Figure. Inflation.
Bring back the Barter System.
Bring back the Barter System.
I've been saying that for years! Kudos!
This week special: Press on sale. Anyone?
There is a reason that in the British Empire the Chinese were brought in to run the businesses and the Indians to man the beaureacracy and provide soldiers.
The Jews own America.
As i said it's zionist bankers that own america but gods special people are above the law so they won't give us the names.
Both Bush and Obama are guilty of treason and we need to stop this game because it's all a fox
Why would the jewish owned media give us their names, they are too busy trying to throw people off the track than tell the truth!!!
nice breakdown of the debt holdings. Wow Hong Kong has a crapload of it too.
Now people can see why the Social Security trust fund is in so much trouble. President Johnson and his democratic congress should have been taken to task for this mess long ago. But too many greedy people just kept putting SS into the general fund as if it was theirs to spend. Wake up Democrats and Republicans, this will just continue to spiral downhill until we are in the same shape as Greece unless you tell your party leaders enough.
That only adds up to 71.01 % Where's the rest?
by Americans, do you mean the Fed? Central Bankers? If you do my friend, then you are correct. The banking system owns America.
we're in debt because greedy corporations dont pay taxes
Wall Street would love to get their hands on our Social Security trillions! That's what the fat cats like Boehner and Republicans want to see.
Corporations are sitting on lots of money....and they are not expanding because they are all wanting Obama to fail. They are sitting on wads of cash waiting it out. Meanwhile they are getting fatter but they are not hiring and not creating more jobs. They are manipulating America. The rich and corporations get away with not paying taxes. They should be held accountable. THEY ARE THE REASON WHY WE ARE IN THIS MESS. Their greed and risk has created a mess that the poor and middle class are struggling with. Meanwhile they are getting their raises and fat bonuses! Republicans and Tea Baggers are their marionettes!
Or they are holding on their cash for the same reason the American people are: Fear of unsafe investments. Probably also trying to avoid losing all their money and requiring another bailout.
This is ridiculous why doesnt CNN post about how much US has stakes in other countries. Here is an article I found http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104803.html.. This is way back in 2006.. Think about now?
If my math is correct there is only 75.5% of US accounted who owns the 24.5% left?
Yeah, the numbers don't add up to 100% makes you kind of wonder the validity of the article all together. Way to do some solid reporting there CNN.
Well dang. Let me get out my super duper Microsoft Calc+ and add 24.5 + 75.5. Wow I get 100.0 using Ctrl C and V. Mike I think your math is off.
II agree with some of the tea parties arguments, but these guys are lunatics, and bad things will come if we follow their way. Obama's plan is solid, and a larger amount cut than what the conservatives are proposing, finishes the argument, and get's it settled. There are other plans from all sides that have more + than -. Just decide!
Homer, you're clueless. Hope you're not balancing the family checkbook. If Obummer's plan is solid, that must mean you're some wunderkind combo of Ghandi/Gates/Buffett/Mandela/Oprah all rolled into one! Homer for Prez!
one thing the USA should know....madoff was a small crook compared to the US goverment!!
The jewish owned media is too busy trying to throw people off track about jewish involvement in the debt than telling the truth how much they own by way of the FED to keep Americans enslaved. And people wonder why jews have been thrown out of every country they have inhabited. Look at what they are doing inside Palestine and it shows the jew through and through. Google ifamericansknew
say that to my jewish face you little knock kneed church going pedophile. go have another priest suck you off.
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Look at the second line from the bottom on bond holders – The US Treasury owns $1.63 trillion in bonds. How can they do that? They bought it using federal funds and that $1.63 trillion now appears in the federal debt which will reach the debt ceiling in 2 days. Maybe this is too simple but if the Treasury cancelled that purchase there wouldn't be a crisis. A spinoff would be that if those bonds were pulled out of the Fed, then they wouldn't be being held and drawing interest for big banks so they would have to do what banks do when money isn't free. They would have to start lending money to businesses and people.
I love how Canada is not mentioned, yet we are the number 1 supplier of oil to the us and the number 1 trade partner.
I am Indian.All those Indians who are blindly comparing India with China are Idiots without proper knowledge of facts.Just because we are comfortably sitting in USA doesn't mean that India is a rich country.India started expanding it's economy in 90's where as china is expanding since 70's.We are atleast 20 yrs behind China.India is no where close to China in any field.Out of 1 billion more than 70% of populations live in villages without proper amneties.We might be in a position to compare with elite countries atleast after 15-20 yrs but we are not there yet. countries
I hate India to the core. Its full of drama, hypocrites, corrupt and culturally confused people. Indians have no respect outside of their country. They are known only for the fact that they are hard working which any donkey can do. And they are hard working only because they can get lousy cheap clothes for the family and keep the rest of the money in bank accounts and not enjoy life one bit. I wish I was never born as an Indian
Relax, hating India is not going to to get you anywhere.
India may be a babe in the woods, but they have great promise. I love some of the conversations i have had over the years with those of the hindu faith. Of all the religions in the world they impress me the most.. They will be a good friend and ally to the US down the road. Pakistan on the other hand worries me...
America owns America. It does not take a genus to figure that one out.
It's also not China that takes over most businesses. Last year Holland did.
Jokes aside, reading this discussion one does realise how much our Indian brothers are obsessed by Pakistan. Come on you are doing good already – why so insecure to spend over 100 comments on Pakistan when the original articles do not even remotely mention the country?
That's very informative, but why don't we talk about how much foreigners owe US??
The FED owns America and has for nearly 100 years. All booms and busts (and wars) are courtesy of your friendly FED, the not so federal body that has no reserves (but one heckuva a printing press).
Thank you. someone who's awake and paying attention.
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Americans will be back on track, once the jobs are brought back to America from overseas.
All those levers of regulations, tax & property related incentives, to attract business investment for America worker.
There is no other option, if America wants to get out of debt, foreclosures, personal credits & jobless recoveries.
Spending reduction due to the wars coming to conclusion will alone not solve the recurring problem of jobless recovery.
We have Indian CEO's because they send the operations out, and save on cost, and stock holders and board of directors & vested interests inside Time magazine keep on praising them.
I seriously agree Indians own America more than Americans.
You have a higher probability of landing a career job, if you are an Indian or know some Indian.
Companies that mange services have Indians in the top management, and they give it out out contracts from American manufacturing to American registered Indian companies, who bring in H1B for few months for knowledge transfer, and then ship the operations out to India.
The top Indian executives get the praise for saving on costs, and promoted to CEO's.
This is the reason you see more Indian CEOs.
The board of directors and stock holders are happy, and the the American public gets jobless recovery.
This has to stop, if we want to avoid failure of dollar in international market, and falling standard of living.
For the REAL historical, ethical, and true record "1st Nations" what you people call Native Americans we are not native we are ORIGINAL, we OWN this land. Over 500 years of Indo-European ignorant lies about this land do not eclipse the fact that this land was occupied already and we ALL didn't come from Asia. We have been here since the beginning. Science can only lay claim to what is uncovered, not what remains unfound. We welcomed with open arms and white people responded with attempted slaughter, just lijke what you export all over the world today. You have not honored "ONE" treaty to date, such is the extent of the lack of integrity as a so-called nation. No, don't talk about ownership, you are only rude visitors to date and still have much to make up for. Turtle Island is not for sale colonists. Unapologeticly yours, Ofikabutsha
i think we should start renting out our arm forces to other countries. Since we are already in everbody's business.Maybe this will help to reduce our national debt.
Yes!!! India is the greatest democracy in the world with 600 million people who don't have access to flushing toilet.
So much for your great country
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dude, get a job, lay off the sauce, and try to keep away from your wild conspiracy theories....
clearly, you are a low life weasel. Your just jealous of jews anyhow...its shows. did a jew win the heart of your girl? or did your alcoholic daddy teach you how to hate jews and blacks.
man, are you pathetic.
If you add up the numbers of Billions of Dollars owed shown as part of the US debt, the total only gets to 6514.8 Billion. Where is the other 8,000 Billion and who owes that part? Now I am not a stickler for being 100% correct in arithmetic but don't you think if you list the major holders of debt you might get closer than being in the 40% area?
Does not make any sense, who owns the mutual funds and pension plans and why is SOCIAL SECURITY considered a DEBT to the great nation?????????????????????
It's convoluted, for sure, but here's how it works: The treasury is essentially a big bank with one major difference: it can print money, banks can't. Once upon a time, before Moron Reagan became president, we had this thing called the Social Security Trust Fund. This was all the money that was collected from SS taxes that hadn't yet been used to pay benefits. Enter Reagan. He and his ilk don't like Social Security and they want to use the Trust Fund nest egg to build weapons, so they combine it with the regular US Budget, instead of keeping it separate, as it was for 45 years. The SS Trust Fund money sat in the US Treasury, but was "borrowed" by Reagan. Bye bye trust fund. Keep in mind, this was money that people paid via payroll taxes to ensure they would receive benefits later in life. Now, move forward to 2009. This was the first year where benefits paid out exceeded contributions paid into SS. And where is the SS Trust Fund, which would carry the difference for 20 more years? Gone. Republicans and Tea Party liars are claiming that SS is bankrupt, as well as Medicare, even though Medicare contributions still exceed benefits. So, you see, we have been robbed by Republicans. Hopes this makes sense. Have a nice life.
WELL SAID AND GOOD INFORMATION LET MORE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS !!
Looks like Uncle Sam needs a part time job to pay off his credit cards.
5+1=51 lol!!!
IN MY COUNTRY, PEOPLE FROM INDIA ARE RIDING BIKES, THEY TROLL AROUND THE POOREST OF THE POOREST PEOPLE, OFFERING GOODS IN EXCHANGE OF HIGH CREDIT INTEREST.
These people seems to be happy with cheap 2nd hand bikes and has an eagle eye of spotting the depressed and desperate people who are in need of money.
And they can easily adapt with the local language.
Perfect leeches I say. Hope they they take a bath and brush their teeth in very humane way.
Your total is ~73% and the Fed seems to be missing. Remember the Fed, a collection of private "banks" (of which a Chinese "bank" is now a member) which owns the biggest part of American debt? Just wondering how the Fed is not mentioned....
It is mentioned. It's called the US Treasury. Hello?
America is owned by its citizens. We just let the media and money people and business people and stockbrokers and bean counters and law upon law upon law makers and pencil sharpeners upon paper shufflers play around with numbers and words because it fascinates them...it's nice, it keeps them occupied and obsessed because we know they aren't talented at actually making things work...except the ones who you never hear from.
It's just human nature to dislike the ones that are different than you. What a shame.
China bought our debt because they believe in us. I wouldn't buy any Chinese debt.
Pardon me while I refuse to sift through all the brilliant commentary made by the world's greatest minds. Perhaps it's explained elsewhere, but would you please point out how you arrived at your figures? The seventeen items you list add to ~10.814 trillion – a far cry from 14.3. Along that same line, the "American" owned debt adds to ~3.283 trillion. Where are the "missing" trillions?
You're right, I also arrived at only $3.3 trillion figure based on these data, rather than the stated $4.5 trillion.
It seems they owe not big deal to France and Germany
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we should all stop acting stupid and start helping the people that needs help!!! lets get up an sand up for our rights we should all work hard and start acting like little kids!!!
So whose debt do we own and can we trade down our debit with them
I've been following the endless roller coaster ride of political and market fluctuations and gridlock, and I have to say that the American people are the ones that should be running the U.S. Government, because it seems that those Harvard and Yale-educuated senators and House members don't know what to do to create a sound and practical plan to get American out of debt, in the long run. I think the reason that those in Congress don't know what they're doing, and are out of synch with the wants and needs of those who elected them, is because they spend the majority of their time in their air conditioned offices dealing with other white-collar people(i.e. lobbyists), and forget to talk to the people who really matter: middle and lower-class Americans.
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Anyone else noticed that the list only accounts for around 70% of the debt...... who owns the rest?
Trade our debt anyone? http://www.insuranceadjustertraining.net
Great take from Fareed and keen insiight to the realities of our overall debt and what China truly represents as part of our debt. I Love Fareed's take as he always calls it straight down the line as it is... no slants, no political spins... the realities just as it is. I'm wondering... as Fareed stated if China began to sell off massive amounts of it's U.S. held treasuries it would cause calamity in it's own as well as global economies & markets. But what would be the result if the U.S. began to wisely buy back it's own treasuries (lets say perhaps 1.5 to 2 trillion of the roughly 2.4 trillion owed China) in a wise, very stategic measured way. Would the U.S. buying back it's own treasuries crete the same global havoc? Logic would say not? Logic would also say that the U.S. credit worthiness and dollar would strenghten and attract even more foreign investor's? I'm wondering... what would Farreed say to this?
hey guys you keep on fighting for who is better ..china or america..but all you are wrong coz.....if you live in both these country then you ll find out.....in america....nobody says but people are too raciest ill mannered....and in china you dont have freedom on anything...you cant even open facebook website.........america is going thru market loss so as china..there FDI came down to 6.5 % from 10% now the biggest loser will be china ...you ll see
I can see the US selling some Libyan oil for a profit, under a Republican president
The US would be doing well if it had bought alot of silver at $7/per oz
oh well
every time i see chinese money i want some
You know who owns most of America's debt. Me
Greed... Greed... Greed....
The FIRST and largest debt-holder that should be paid back is Social Security! Is this some kind of joke? Borrowing/stealing from Social Security and then saying it is underfunded? Really, is this some kind of joke???
yes, we have Ronald Reagan to thank for pillaging social security replacing it with a filing cabinet full of IOUs
The dollars and percentages don't line up. If you add the the dollars up, the respective percentages do not work out. All of the percentages listed here only add up to about 75%. Ergo there must be an "Other" category with about 3.61 trillion dollars in it (about 25% of the total) not listed here.
wow, its like der sturmer on here....way to go CNN...way to go Fareed. let all the jew hating ron paulers on here to have their 2 cents....what morons....
btw, you see how absolutely nuts paul looked at the debate the other night? wow....what a freakin nutjob that dude is.
If India and China are superpowers...What a hell are you all doing here?....Never mind....JUST learn HOW TO DRIVE and learn some English people can understand
Well heck... if it's indeed that "America owes America $9.8 trillion", I say we should just let us slide. We can get us back next time.
How can US have credit on it's self? It's like I am lending to me money – so this is creating money from nothing?
Why don't the % totals in this article add up to 100%??
Hey ALL, Can we get back to the discussion on India?
By all means discuss India but some of us are concerned that the figures in the article don't add up – a pretty fundamental issue I'm sure you'd agree.
Pff it's just 24,5% missing – don't think about – go out for some beer and don't ask questions you don't have to think about.
If it were not for India, we would not have been blessed by " Slum Dog Millionaire " LOL
That was it! Mystery solved. 24.5% is owed to India.
It's entertaining reading all the comments. They're somehow shallow, at times stupid, but you can tell they're from educated people.
Keep it up!
This does not add up to 100%. Who owns the other 24%?
Does no one know geography.
Where is Hong Kong located? China
- Hong Kong: $121.9 billion (0.9 percent)
Where is Taiwan located? China
- Taiwan: $153.4 billion (1.1 percent)
China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)
All that added together is 10 percent.
No to mention the Commercial banks and Mutal Funds that China has been slowly been buying.
You also don't know politics as Taiwan has nothing to do with mainland China except for the fact China wants to own it. Hong Kong is given special provisions and freedoms as the Hong Kongese were recently released from British control and are not exactly zealous about being under China's thumb. So no these are different places entirely.
But America owes America 9.8 trillion? Ok.. I hope your not saying that the federal reserve, IRS and The U.S. Treasury is a part of America? Because from my understanding their foreign services..
What about the 24.5% not mentioned. The list you have produced amounts to 75.5%. Why should anyone believe someone about finances when they can't even use simple arithmatic ?
where's the Defense budget? How far back did he go for these figures, did he include all money that has gone out to Country's as loan's that has never been repaid?
You all are stupid!!!!!!!!!!!
Pakistan Owes America w/ all the so called "War On Terror" just minting money to Pakistan.
Shame on us to elect such leaders!!!!!!!
Nothing is great about India when talking about technology and skillful people.
All the money goes to Israel and Jews because they control America
Wow at the top Manoj Kumar you are stupid! Ghandi is not a thing; she's a person!
You know....if I ever become the US president, I will take care of this debt problem right away.
First, I am not paying sh**t to anyone of these countries. They have problems, I will tell them I am sending back all those fu**ing foreigners that immigrated to this country with no money. You leave the country with underwear only!!!!
Second, jobs, I will divide the unemployment number on the number of company making over certain amount, each company will have to hire those who has no jobs. you don't want to. I will tax your as* income tax, outcome tax, name it tax, tax tax……till you beg me to hire people.
Cigarette Company, they will have to pay for all hospital bills for all cancer patients. You made profit with killing people, pay for treatment.
Just give me the chance, in six month, everyone will be rich!!!!!
Your U.S. debtor list only adds up to 75.5%. What about the remainder?
What a turd, Spin spin spin...China is the largest FOREIGN owner.
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ISRAEL ISRAEL ISRAEL! Israel controls USA you zionist moles at CNN! LOOK who wanted war on Iraq, ISRAEL! Who wants war on Iran, ISRAEL! Israel is costing the US trillions per year, we need Becky Rusher for American president, thank god I never went in the US. You all are brainwashed by zionist-jewish lies!
All the racist and ignorant rants make me realize why man is doomed. Between religious ignorance, cultural ignorance and just a plain lack of knowledge about science, finances, and being able to think for yourselves and detect BS when you hear it you all need to get off the computer and actually read something. Not the New testament, bible the koran, fox news or any of that fiction or nonsense. Armed with some real information maybe one of you morons could make a real decision or comment...
Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie...China does own the US corp. stop lying or do some more research! Israel might control the US corp. but China owns her.
true
Where is my twin. Dear, dear where are you. I missed your China bashing. You are my true american hero. Do not disappoint us, please.
Santa Claus never got payed.
One World Government, lets all kick the money habit. Every human should give there lives to science and take care of each other.
The real question is "Who owns Fareed Zakaria?" Answer: David Rockfeller. from wikipedia:
"...he was president of the Yale Political Union, editor-in-chief of the Yale Political Monthly, a member of the Scroll and Key society, and a member of the Party of the Right. He later earned a Ph.D degree in political science from Harvard University in 1993,[2] where he studied under Samuel P. Huntington and Stanley Hoffmann.
Career. After directing a research project on American foreign policy at Harvard, Zakaria became managing editor of Foreign Affairs magazine [Rockefeller's mouthpiece] in 1992.
Umm... is it just me, or do those percentages not add up to 100? Something is missing...
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Look Tom Mucha, you got to be kidding. The United States unfunded debt is $115 trillion. America citizens debt is about $57 trillion and then there is the $16 trillion you mention here. Debt owed to ones self in nothing to worry about. That which you owe to others can get you in deep trouble, like broken knee caps. Maybe you need to take a course in collections 101.
You've missed 4 trillion dollars. The breakdown doesn't add up to 100% (only 75.5% or $10.4 T). Even S&P corrected their couple of trillion dollar error by the end of the day. The truth is elusive. Good job we have math. Maybe the prattlers have a calculator.
and hong kong has been part of china for a while
Funny how this only adds up to 75% soooooooo WHAT ABOUT HTE OTHER 25%????
Yeah I got 10.81 trillion as the total of that list.
This is no revelation. Most Americans already know about America's trillions in debt. The real research and discovery is what to do about it?
Sure was not aware iof this break down... Just hope its true. Now lets get on with the duty we have to repay and live within our means........Go tell the politicians.
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So the troll wars have begun, as predicted in the Upanishads and by Confuscius...now we shall see...
Great to see the "global public square" comments are so civilized. We deserve what we are getting.
It would be good if when this story was written and the percentage breakdown was provided they didnt leave 25% off. Where and who is responsible for that debt?
If they could just figure out how to make their food not smell like hot garbage and old dirty diapers....only then will they become a super power.
Well I'm not at all surprised to see the Social Security trust fund as the sucker holding all the IOUs. Social Security is like an area rug for Washington–who knows what's really swept under there.
But I'm very curious about 1 entry and the total lack of another. How exactly does the U.S. treasury hold 1.63 Trillion of its own debt? And why are the Central Banks left out of this equation?? Where is the Federal Reserve?
I think the comments on this thread demonstrate why the US will remain the undisputed superpower for a very long time.
Yeah, China and India have been around for thousands of years; yet, in just 200 years, the United States far exceeded all of their combined achievements. Imagine if China or India had ever had men such as Washington, Jefferson, Franklin etc., to change the role of government from total control to being subservient to the will of the people. And yes, the chinese gov and indian gov hate what america is and stands for: Imagine you start a club, call it China, and you are in complete control. Everything made by your club belongs to you to redistribute how you see fit. Then along comes this new club, call it the United States, and it is allowing its people to create what they want, keep what they make and to profit. Now the people in your club see this and they too want this freedom. Doesnt it make you angry that the other club even exists? Before them, you had complete control, no questions. Now your members are wanting to go to the other club if you dont become like the other club. Yeah, it is easy to see how the rest of the world's governments hate the United States; their people dont hate us, their governments hate us.
The US government hates you too, stop living in a dream world or the 1900s, check out the CIA report that came out, they partnered with Gaddafi, before backstabbing him, its on CNN.
People despise the US because of its war/fear mongering ways, the examples....ummm all the wars your country is involved in.
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Good Article about USA debt!
So we have to pay ourselves back with money made of paper that isn't backed by gold or anything? Why does this seem solvable?
Isn't anyone concerned that the math in this article is way off? Add it up. The dollars and the percentages. Poor reporting!
Wait, that list only adds up to 75.5 %,
15% is about $ 2,200,000,000,000. seems a bit of an oversight.
(now look at that math an wonder if you were distracted by big numbers again)
NOT ONLY DOES AMERICA OWN AMERICA.... WE OWN A LARGE PART OF FORIEGN DEBT .
THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT THAT ,, BUT WE OWN OVER 5.2 TRILLION IN FORIEGN DEBT .. .. AND DID YOU KNOW AMERICAN PRIVATE SECTOR EQUITY IS OVER 55 TRILLION DOLLARS ..OUR FEDERAL GOVT ASSETS IS OVER 42 TRILLION DOLLARS ..
AND PEOPLE BASH AMERICA AS BEING BROKE , DESTROYING CONSUMER CONFIDENCE THERE BY DESTROYING OUR ECONOMY .. WHY DOESNT OUR PRESIDENT COME OUT AND EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE NOT BROKE ?
ITS BECAUSE HE WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE WE NEED TO PAY MORE TAXES .. TELLING YOU AMERICA IS BROKE ... HOW COULD THEY RAISE TAXES ON A BROKE PUBLIC?
THEY CANT .. STHEY KNOW OF THE WEALTH .. DOW JONES MARKET CAP IS ALMOST 4 TRILLION DOLLARS .. THE S&P 500 IS OVER 10 TRILLION MARKET CAP ..THE NASDAQ AND NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE IS OVER 10.6 TRILLION DOLLARS .. ...
COME ON PEOPLE .. WAKE UP ..ONLY OUR GOVT IS BROKE .. THEY SPENT EVERY PENNY WE GAVE THEM .. AND NOW WANT MORE .. THATS WHY THEY ASK FOR MORE TAXES .. THEY JUST WANT TO PAD THEIR POLITICAL FUTURE FOR ELECTION PURPOSES ..
EVERYTIME THEY DO SOMETHING THEY ADD VOTERS .. THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES AT OUR EXPENSE .. THEY ARENT THERE TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY .. THEY ARE THERE TO SERVE THEMSELVES .. ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE IN WASHINGTON .. MAYBE ITS TIME TO GIVE THE REPUBLICANS A SUPER MAJORITY TO SEE IF THEY DO WHAT THEY PROMISE ..
WE GAVE THE DEMOCRATS THEIR SUPER MAJORITY .. WE SAW WHAT THEY DID .. TRIPLE SPENDING .. IM 52 YEARS OLD AND NEVER IN MY LIFE HAS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAD A SUPER MAJORITY I CONGRESS TO DO WHAT THEY WANT . NOT IN MY LIFE TIME
ANY WAY IF THE REPUBLICANS DONT CUT SPENDING WITH A SUPER MAJORITY .. THEN ITS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION AND REPLACE ALL INCOMBENTS ..
Dude, your caps-lock key is stuck. Write it again. This time properly.
If you cross the N. Korean border illegally, you get 12 yrs. hard labor. If you cross the Afghanistan border illegally, you get shot. If you cross the U.S. border illegally you get a job, a driver's license, food stamps, a place to live, health care, housing & child benefits, education, & tax free business for 7 yrs. REALLY???? How can this be right, for our country, and our economy??? No wonder we are a country in debt. Honestly I think the American government should be overthrown, Voted of the Island,replaced, every single one of them. I mean seriously, how is this helping Americans or our economy when ALL these illegal 'aliens' have a job, or 2 or in some cases 3 and there is countless TAX PAYING Americans unemployed. Then they want to RAISE the TAXES so the REAL, LEGAL Americans have to pay the national debt. This is totally Screwed up. NO wonder America has this 14 trillion dollar national debt. IS ANYONE ELSE SICK OF PAYING FOR OUR GOVERNMENTS STUPIDITY????
First of all, the job that immigrant does you dont do. If u work a least 40 hours a week for you is too much. you just envy cause people around you is getting better in life than you. but ill tell you this, if you and 1 immigrant go to europe you would be the same because this is in the blood. you are too lazy to get 2 jobs. i believe you work at autozone or macdonalds. and anyways that is worse things in the US that kills the economy. ill give you a big example: Did you know that the goverment pay for one person and 1 kid just for rent $1.300 and im not counting the food stamp.now check how much they pay a year for section 8 and this is something that i believe only american can benefit from. This way is good. u make a baby you eat, drink and live on government costs. Think more before you cry. and in Brazil if you cross the botter you get malaria and yellow fever by the way.
If you cross the N. Korean border illegally, you get 12 yrs. hard labor. If you cross the Afghanistan border illegally, you get shot. If you cross the U.S. border illegally you get a job, a driver's license, food stamps, a place to live, health care, housing & child benefits, education, & tax free business for 7 yrs. REALLY???? How can this be right, for our country, and our economy??? No wonder we are a country in debt. Honestly I think the American government should be overthrown, Voted of the Island,replaced, every single one of them. I mean seriously, how is this helping Americans or our economy when ALL these illegal 'aliens' have a job, or 2 or in some cases 3 and there is countless TAX PAYING Americans unemployed. Then they want to RAISE the TAXES so the REAL, LEGAL Americans have to pay the national debt. This is totally Screwed up. NO wonder America has this 14 trillion dollar national debt. IS ANYONE ELSE SICK OF PAYING FOR OUR GOVERNMENTS STUPIDITY????
It's because this country is run by big business and big business advertises in Mexico. Big business wants cheap labor. Big business wants workers with no rights what so ever.
Where's the other 24% ?
These people should work for PR agencies or lawyers (which they probably are) because they put so much spin on this tale, that it will roll backwards when it hits the floor. I really hope no one buys this load...
The harsh fact remains, we are in too much debt regardless to who, we have to start digging for solutions, instead of dwelling over the problem itself.
The money supply is replenished by borrowing more money. Ideally, the consumer would do the borrowing, but after a decade of excess borrowing, th consumer's debt is way way too high. So now the job of borrowing, to replenish our money supply, falls to the government. That is why the government spends stimulus money and why the Fed has programs like the QE2 – to create debt and thereby add money back into the system. Without that money, our economy would collapse. Ty Tymkovich.
我觉得好奇怪，那么多人从来没有去过中国，他们凭什么说三到四，凭什么下结论？ 人类怎么都这样，总是充满了偏见和仇恨
Well, that is the way things are, it is human nature. Many people in China and the rest of the world will criticize the US without experiencing our culture or the way our society runs. Countries are made of many minds, not one.
How can someone argue about a subject with assumptions and what others have told them?
I wish people would think before commenting on here.
OK..Plz speek english or get an education...First who replys on who?..agian who replys on who?..american needs china more then china needs america..do you understand..wipe the money fever of your face.china doesn't need america...china doesn't need america...china needs to depopulate..witch they'll be soon....so where is america in this..so where is america in this..do you understand...as lond as we need china they own us...AS LONG AS WE NEED CHINA THE OWN US. China can sell to anyone and everyone..SORRY CHINA CAN SELL TO ANYONE AND TO EVERYONE...DO YOU UNDERSTAND...Fist america doesn't own it's money...THAT IS PRIVET PROPERTY OWN BY THE FED..NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...THE FED LOAN OUT THE MONEY BECAUSE TOO MANY POLICALS GET PAY OFF..THIS IS TO INSURE THAT NO ONE CAN RUN WIDE WITH THE MONEY AS PRESIDENT ELECTED BY MONEY,,
I am a Chinese grown up in Hong Kong. Had met some Indians and Pakistanis there and made friends with them eventually. Like us, they are nice people. We have nearly the same family history of tears and blood due to political unrest caused by foriegn powers and local politicians. Gathering in the small place of Hong Kong for whatever reason such as making a better living etc actually got us seperated from our family members thousands of miles away. That is my impression of them.
I therefore regard them as friends.
Why should anyone believe your numbers? Probably made up to protect the rich.
Lets face it. The world needs the poor countries such as India and China.
Not that the countries are poor but the government uses the poor within the country to boost the country economically. Who will work for pennies in the USA. No one any more but when this country many years ago had an open imagration policy to bring in a cheap workforce We the USA became a wealthy country because we could compete with the world in terms of mass production and low cost since we had a cheap workforce and a few rich investors until inflation kicked in.
Now it is China'a and India's turn. Their cheap workforce will raise the countries wealth until inflation kicks in and no one will work for pennies anymore. Sure that will take many years but it is the reason England and the USSR are no longer super powers. It is the circle of life.
I say China will win due to the fact they can keep the poor, poor. If the poor become middle class their goes the countries futuer. Middle class will not work in sweat shops. Same with India but since India is more of a free market system there is no way to keep everyone poor and thus eventually the country will not be able to sustain their growth. China will not be able to either but we are talking many year from now. It is best to invest in future technology and new green tech and things like that. That is the only way the USA can compete. We cant compete anylonger with the cheap mass production and slave labor of China and India. It is the cirlce of life.
P.S. why are we talking about India??????
Who really cares who owns what. Its not like someone is going to reposses the United States. Life goes on and this is no big deal. I do believe that they should pass a law that no member of congress can get reelected to office until the debt issue is solved. Pass that law and guess what, we will no longer be in debt!
How to we pay ourselves back? No its the Govt that needs to pay the citizens back and stop forcing us to pay the GOVT. Take that gold out and start using that to pay Socal Security.
Easy solution to take back America:
1. Stop importing other countries products. This STEALS jobs and money from AMERICANS
2. Start manufacturing our own. This CREATES jobs and money for AMERICANS.
3. Help only a small number of countries that have demonstrated loyalty to US in world affairs (only ones I can think of are UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand). The rest? Tough s**t improve your "rep" with us if you want our help.
Bhutan government expelled around 100,000 people to Nepal via the generous support of India. The U.S. government being too generous took around half of them to the U.S. The reason for the failure of the US is that they care too much and too many countries. They have their military presence in 80 countries and they've this weird 'EDV' system that intakes immigrants through lottery!They're spending trillions in wars and they won't spend in health and diseases.You people have lost your priorities.
HINT: IT'S CHINA. CHINA OWNS THE U.S AND EVERY PERSON WALKING THE STREETS BECAUSE THEY ARE SO IN DEBT TO THEM
Regardless of who we owe, foreign debt holders make demands and control our government. Since CNN has finally listed just how much we owe, maybe we can get liberals to understand just how bad off we are. If you vote for Democrats knowing these facts, your a complete loser
think you misunderstood the information. but i would challenge you to follow the money through the economy and see which party makes the rules and ends up with all the money , we continue to amass debit through banking and trade and make it worse by cutting taxes on the wealthy . we fought for independence not because of taxes because of taxation without representation. we didnt have a voice than we dont have a voice now. the minority republician party controlls everything.
I just vote for the lesser of two evils...
No mention of the Federal Reserve Bank.
Last I heard we were paying them about 4.7 Billion a day in interest alone.
This article does say we owe the US Treasury about 11% of our debt. I hope there isnt some confusion between the US Treasury and The Federal Reserve.
The US Treasury is a part of our government while the Federal Reserve is not. It is a PRIVATE Corporation and has no reserves. It's about as Federal as Federal Express. I think we owe them in the neighborhood of 6 Trillion Dollars.
Lets not forget, while India and China were living in mud huts, Americans were flying to the moon and inventing the Internet. The United States has TWICE the annual GDP of China with one fifth the population and India with its 1.4 billion has millions of starving people and a teeny tiny GDP compared the US. We are still comparing Apples to Oranges here.......
Seriously, you need a lesson on history of the world and especially India & China.
a close mind will never learn and a open mind will go places and not only learn but teach as well.
pity your knowledge about the world.
you are in a sorry state of being.
Hi, good morning! Stormy123, what a interesting story you said. You know what? Americans are not the first who invented internet. Serbia have had internet in the year of 1500 that the Balkans feared them greatly because they advanced so greatly that they have never known in their life. Americans were not the first to invent internet. Yes, they invented but Serbia invented internet long ago before America. I believe each one of us is intelligent.
we will be at war with the chinks withing 20 years
War? I don`t think so, I am optimistical on the relationship between two countries!!!!
Why wasn't I asked if the government could borrow my SS retirement fund? Do I get interest on that money? What's the difference between our government and Madoff? Misspending our investment. I don't care how you look at it, it's stealing from the people, because now the government can't pay it off. It's impossible unless each person wants to donate about $140,000 to help pay off the American debt.
ONE TRUTH I HAVE OBSERVED IS THAT, AMERICANS ARE FOOLS ,REASON BEING ; THEY ARE IMPORTING SUCH A BIG AMOUNT OF PRODUCTS FROM CHINA AND KEEP ON SAYING THAT "WE HAVE NO JOBS FOR OUR OWN PEOPLE", THEY ARE LETTING ALL AMERICAN MONEY DRAIN INTO CHINA,IT IS THE ONLY REASON OF CHINA'S GROWTH.I DOUBT ABOUT THE ECONOMIC POLICY MAKERS,HAS CHINA BOUGHT AMERICA POLICY MAKERS.
Woah there, gotta distinguish the difference between the company who are happy outsourcing jobs with bought policymakers and the individuals complaining. We aren't one mind.
no one talks about chinas enormous debt , the problem with china debt is they manipulate it much like their currancy . as compared to gdp chinas debt is 150 % to ours which is like 93% . so is china so much better off like everyone on here says.
Actually its only 26% of GDP both Domestic and External Debt together.
Domestic: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2186rank.html
External: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2079.html
But yes, it helped that they manipulated their currency to get their debt this low.
Kill the rich.
My generation used to say that, too. Then we found out Jimmy Carter thought we were the rich.
So we all voted for Ronald Reagan.
Now it's your generation's turn to figure it out.
Good post, Occupado! Nice to know someone understand what's happening!
“If you take a very broad view of the Chinese government’s contingent liabilities rather than explicit debt on the books then the number comes to well over 150 per cent of China’s GDP in 2010,” according to Victor Shih, a political economist at Northwestern University in the US. The US has a debt-to-GDP ratio of 93 per cent
baljeet is the coolest indian ever!
Wrong, loko... the coolest Indian ever was Sitting Bull.
Even not the Americans own themselves as if they can chose for success. “Lord, I know the way of man is not in himself, It is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.” Yes, there comes a time for all of us to show our true colours. For your information Google The World Monetary Order.
to all posters above: stick to the subject, and try to offer solutions and ideas as supposed to demeaning other people's comments?
Dinky is RIGHT – - every iPhone – every iPad is MADE IN CHINA – read the back of it – it Could Be USA – - but Govt Policies do not allow this – - "Make Jobs" Programs are "fixing pot-holes" – - Nothing that USA can EXPORT – - The Govt needs to THINK EXPORT – - Make JOBS that EXPORT Products – - or PREVENT IMPORT (like Oil) – - It is that SIMPLE
Vote Republican, Willy. Because the public sector unions don't care about YOU. They only need you to pay your taxes to they can retire at 50 on fat pensions - at yours and your children's expense.
Wow , I use to like this web site.There are a few post of people who read and speak with 3 or more syllables. I know the ones who need to read this won't get it. But please go to a real school. If you went to high school, you failed, but they passed you on. Please; I beg you go to school , read, travel and learn. It will open your mind. You really don't know what you are missing. Trust me you are missing a lot. I love debating with intelligent people. I don't think we need to agree about everything or anything. But please know what you are talking about. There is no room for racism in any discussion.
Gandhi likes little girls
And whatta you like, Ruskie? Little boys?
Israel owns america, look how US economy breakdown to pay war for israel, look how US bow to israel and do nothing when their citizen died on israel attack. On the other hand, China is getting stronger and soon to be the most powerfull nations in the world. If i were american, i would start worried about that.
I am glad I was not the only one to notice the number don't add up to 100%. The totals they give only add up to 75.5. Who owns the other 24.5% of our debt???? Why didn't someone check their math????
It's england who owns the U.S.A in economical and the indans own the land
I think it's funny when Americans talk about poverty in other countries. First, if you divide 14 trillion by 320 American men, women, and children, every single one of us owes $44000. But worse, and much closer to home is that there are so many Americans living in poverty. A family of 5 earning less than 25.5K is poverty! Throughout the 90's poverty declined, then it started climbing each year since 2000 (Bush legacy again I guess). Now, approximately 14 percent of Americans live in poverty. By itself that doesn't sound bad, but when you consider that America has so much of the worlds wealth it's a crime!
Debt is one thing jobs is another, don't confuse the two.
一帮傻逼 你们现在说的这些东东 大家都心知肚明 真正的东西不给你拿出来讨论 光说不做 边做边说 只做不说 你们看着办
Sorry Wang Dong Bong you mispelled the third character. You left out the left squiggel. You used the character for cow, when you meant to use the one for 'village idiot".
I am paying off my debt.
What's your shovel-to-hole ratio?
The Fed was created by uber-rich Americans in order to capture tacpayer money. It encourages a national debt, so that "interest payments" can trasnfer huge sums of money to the alreayd rich. This is why Ron Paul wants to "End the Fed". It is a scam, Congress is completely sold-out to the uber-rich, which is why Congress reduces taxes in order to grow the National Debt in order to transform the middle-class into a Peasant Class. Our children will never escape this, it is a return to the middle-ages which our Founding Fathers revolted form.
this is a slap on the face of those retard racist that dont want immigrant on U.S. You guys humilated all immigrant cause they are here and US gets money from other country. So before you go to a chinese restaraunt and call him a fock imigrant think that you own them money you freak retards.
We must forgive David. He obviously graduated from a public school.
So what happens if the social security fund goes broke and it owns 19% as the largest owner?
And no one wants to pay more taxes to keep it solvent? Hmm.
Tom Mucha still thinks the year is pre-1997. Wake up, Hong Kong is under China.
Your country is a cess pool of coruption and bigatroy. Your rich are the worst and one day the poor will run India. Your treatment of your own people is a complete shame but you rich there think you are better then 90% of the ones living on the streets; You should burn in hell. Then you come to america and think your white. You are a camel jockey and always will be you no go for nothing wealthy of India. Shame on you for treating your people the way you do with live in slaves you hire for nothing nd think you are doing them a favor, You should shine tthe poor shoes you good for nothing racist
I am Indian. I've been to India and China. India is a country still under the works. While China is in the final phases of its work. Economically China is better. But i still want to live in a Communist country where I am able to have only one child.
Econ – China
Living in – India
Freedom – India
Standard of Living – The big cities of China
Both countries are still under the works but in the end they will catch up. btw India is about 5 years behind China. China is 5 – 10 years behind the U.S (nt economically but just development wise)
hahahahahah India was the creator of the number 0 cheappp
India needs to solve it's border conflicts with China, and be able to drill for oil in cooperation with Vietnam without running away from China!
How can the treasury owe the treasury? did they mean the federal reserve, if so, scary!
are the bonds owed to social security in a lock box?
All Pakistani terrorist should shush, and look at their own breeding terrorist country than comment on civilized countries..
Pakistan is a failed angry state on the brink of collapse. The angry desert marauders of Pakistan are killing each other like crazed maniacs. Pakistan will implode, they are angry and killing each other, not to mention the racist Qom system of Pakistan where the elites oppress 90% of the population.
Do you know the Dutch took the Indians as slaves to South Africa, fun fact. That's where Ghandi was born.
what is fun in rejoicing about slavery . no wonder many humans still endure slavery especially women and children. you really have a sick mind if you think slavery is fun. slavery is disgusting blot on humanity , i am sure most Dutch will agree . it has no moral or scientific basis . you really should be ashamed of gloating over the suffering of other humans .of course we indians are extremly proud of Gandhi , His name is Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. I am sure many Africans , Americans are also proud about his ways of awakening Human conscience to care for others and have no malice.
Ty Tymkovich thinks America owns America. Tyrone Tymkovich.
Has anyone added up the numbers in the article? They don't add up! Really, add them up, it's simple math. The percentage number comes to 75.5%. Where's the rest? Shouldn't they add to 100% if this is the total... "total amount held and percentage of total U.S. debt, according to Business Insider". It did when I learned simple math in second grade. Come guys do your homework! Don't just repeat what somebody else says. You should be embarrassed.
Cute
"Truth is elusive. But it's a good thing we have math." According to your math it's still elusive.... Where's the other 24.5% of the 14.3 trillion? (hint: it's about $3.5035 trillion)
I think there's a mistake in this article. It says the US Treasury owns 1.63 Trillion. Ummm... how does the US Treasury own it's own debt? I think it's supposed to say Federal Reserve... They are not the same.
We are going fishing tomorow, yahoooo .
A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work.
@Eric Hoffman you are indian too my friend.. stop acting like u are an american!!
The Conflict of China's President in the name of "Who" or Hoo!
Its GANDHI not GHANDI !
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Typical Indian comment fart from a big ass pretending that they are so greate and India must be the model to be folloed around the world. I have 2 things to tell this guy . 1- build enough out houses in India so torest won't get disgusted and sick when watching people urninating and taking dumb on the streets and specially watching the site where it is a group effort when one finishes othe come in and begins. Next the Manson is not somting new to India and cities and town should not be floded year after year as if it something new. So when yo fix thies simple problems then try to join big boys club in a sound Desscussion .
It is funny how Indians a Pakistaniu jump at each other throughout every time they hear something negative about them selves . Same with israelis and palestinians if a leaf falls out of a tree they will blame each other for it.
Clinton didn't have a deficit, didn't cut taxes, and the economy did well.
The GOP's anti tax policies and Bush's tax breaks for the rich is why we don't have the revenue to pay the bills and why we're in debt.
Clinton was dragged kicking and screaming to a balanced budget by the Republican Revolution in 1994.
Dick Gephardt said a balanced budget was bad economic policy.
The Social Security trust fund is holding $2.67 trillion, or 19% of US debt. If that doesn't scare you nothing will. So much for counting on SSI when you retire!
Zakaria was born in Mumbai (then Bombay), Maharashtra, India, to a Konkani Muslim family.[4] His father, Rafiq Zakaria, was a politician associated with the Indian National Congress and an Islamic scholar. His mother, Fatima Zakaria, was for a time the editor of the Sunday Times of India.
Zakaria attended the Cathedral and John Connon School in Mumbai. He received a Bachelor of Arts from Yale University,[2] where he was president of the Yale Political Union, editor-in-chief of the Yale Political Monthly, a member of the Scroll and Key society, and a member of the Party of the Right. He later earned a Doctor of Philosophy in political science from Harvard University in 1993,[2] where he studied under Samuel P. Huntington and Stanley Hoffmann.
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Again why do we allow these foreigners into our country. He is not an American. Why should he have been llet him into an American PHD program...we might as well hire the Taliban to guard our nuclear sites. It is insane that America is so self defeatist that anyone can come to America now..legally or not ..and the leftists let them all in. We deserve to be destroyed, we have no sense of country any more.
And you are native American, Mr Boise? At some point you or your ancestors most likely came into this country as an immigrant. BTW, Mr. Zacharia had nothing to do with this article.
Maybe we will get lucky, promise Zakaria the presidency if he can convince India to nuke Pakistan and China...a 2 for 1 special. Right, "Bob"?
The numbers do not add up
It is awesome to own America by American. India is greatest.
I read that the USA still has slaves. They must be in a foreign country. There are no slaves in the USA, period!! Is it tru that India reveres the rat god, snake god, or any other animal as a god? Do all asians eat dogs, man's best friend? East Indians enter the US because of state dept rules made by US businessmen that foreigners can work for 1/2 price to their employers, So, companies rewrite the resume to fit & they're hired. Many get fired, but any squirrill can find a nut sooner or later. When east indians come to the US & don't remove their turbans, how do they expect to fit in? Like jews with a yamalka. Do u see an american with a turban on his head when he goes to india??? And don't steal the coffee club money in a can even though u make $100,000 a year. Go home & take your expertise that u learned here with you including a PHD from a US school. Support your own country like the mexicans (those who are left) & stop sending money home-just go home. Don't light barbecues on a plane for lunch or put a running car exhaust to your apartment to stay warm, or wash you feet in the bathroom sink while sitting in the next sink 5 times a day. How much foreign aid are u getting from the US? Stop killing all the tigers so u can be "Macho man"& put their privates in your soup. Stop the Taj Mahal from dissolving. What are u thinking? Did u leave your morals home? On & on& on!!!
When I totaled up the percentage, It is just adding upto 75.5%.
Who is the remaining 24.5% owner ?
America owns America ... Is this good or bad? If it were not the case, than we could simply hyper-inflate our currency to get rid of all debts and annihilate financial systems of our debt holders and that would be good for America. But now it's obvious that inflation of our currency on one hand devalues all savings of our people on another hand.
Yes, American debt is mostly owned by the American Investors. I am one of them. I believe in the economic stability of America. I am not worried about the Chinese or the Indian investors. They obviously feel the same way that I do about investing in American gov't securities. During the debt crisis American treasury investments remained steady.
Most of these are exporting countries where we have exported technology and jobs for decades. The trade inbalance reflects our lack of "industrial production" and resulting lack of living wage production jobs that has left us with low paying service jobs. We as a nation borrow to maintain our standard of living.. We need a "policyfor industrial production" that addresses our lack of producing. We have only a weak policy of hodge-podge actions and jaw-boning. It is not enough. Germany has more domestic regulation than we do. Yet it is still maintained itself as an net exporter offering its own people jobs..
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If you run for president, I'll vote for you.
You make a whole lot more sense than any Republican or Democrat I've listened to in the last 5 years.
Hong Kong is part of China, and it is first on the list. So, who owns America? China.
The banks fully own America. The central bank prints dollars and lends them to the US government at an interest. The government then owes everything plus interest to the bank. So, the government owns nothing and owes everything to the bank.
Just think about where all the money is coming from? The central bank prints the money, lends it to the government and private banks. Private banks, in tern, lend the money to the companies that hire people and pay them. People spend the money, buy things that those companies produce, pay taxes. The money goes back to the government, which owes the central bank.
But how can the government pay more to the central bank than what it has? Remember, everything the government has is borrowed but it has to return everything borrowed plus the interest. Where to get the new money? Borrow more...
Dead end.
Not to discredit this article, but does the author know that social security trust is owed in T-Bills that are purchased. That really shouldn't be on the list as the debt should be reflected in the countries that have purchased those bills.
Im moving to canada.
Message me if you wanna come.
LOL
I hear this a lot but you are missing something. Canada has standards. Sorry, you may not be good enough for Canada.
To immigrate into Canada you have to have education, language ability, job skills. It's not like we will take any white yahoo with a bible in his hand.
In fact, Canada is an increasingly diverse nation where 20% or 1 in 5 citizens were born somewhere else and chose to become Canadian. We welcome people who are willing to work hard and can learn to love and care about our country.
And I am sorry, Elizabeth. But you do not know very much about my country, the things you have typed just are not true. Get yourself a passport and come visit, maybe you can learn a few things while you are here.
Did anyone else notice that the percents don't add up to 100?
There is a significant piece of the pie missing.
I read all the comments, it is very funny. Money is not that hard to make, it is hard to keep. An international question for Americans: Why the CEO's need a salary of 8-10 mill. and workers not even a raise ? Is it hard to answer? Why the economy failed ?Where did America go wrong ? Americans do not ask for money, they ask for a safe job.
India don't count due to Caste System...They're good on cheating and kiss azz !
that means China owns in USA land area terms about 300,000 square miles, or all of texas and south carolina. The richest one percent of americans own everything east of the missippi, while the poorest 150,000,000 americans own hawaii.
both China and India are great countries with great potential and history. and they all want to be better instead of blaming. many arguments between these countries are actually created by others. both countries have intelligent people,who are making use of thishistorical opportunity to change their lives.
By adding all these numbers, only got 76.5%, who owns the remaining 23.5%?
Didn't everyone already know this? Did people really think that China owned more of American than America owned of America? That assumption, like this article, is just plain silly.
if India is so good, why those snake charmers come in droves to the US -
and sit next to one in the A/C – awfuol curry smell – never heard of taking a shower.
asked to be moved on last flt. FRA=-NY.
He meant Gandu...not Gandhi
Indians are funny – they want to show at every cost that they are not suffering from a complex but they actually do
India poses a clear and present danger to the regional security of the world. ...to USA...NATO...Pakistan and Afghanistan people and armed forces. Hindu cult extremism is on the rise and fanning all terrorism worldwide. Indians are the bankers to and financing terrorism and supporting Talibans and Al Qaeda and harboring them in India. These terrorists are being entertained in the Indian parliament building in New Delhi where they are residing and then smuggle dover to Pakistan in Indian Army helicopters. Shame on these Indians. Like the NAZI's they need to be stopped forcefully and immediately. If it takes bombing lets bomb India, if it takes Drones...lets drone New Delhi
Goldman Sachs owns the government just take a look at who is in congress! the same thieves that got us into this mess
Goldman Sachs owns Barack Hussein Obama, too. Bought and paid for the old fashioned way, with campaign funds.
Is it 2012 yet?
And here one that I like President Obama asking for 15 billion to repair all the foreclosed on homes, I mean why should the american tax payer pay for this when the Banks did the foreclosing they should be the ones fixing them because they own them now!
What a scam! The government uses Social Security money to buy its own bonds... Unbeliveable...
Nuke 'em!
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THE WEST AT ALMOST NO TIME IN HISTORY HAS BEEN WEAK. WESTERN POWERS HAVE BEEN THE DRIVING FORCE
IN INNOVATION
Polar bears and grizzlies, wolves and coyotes, bison and antelope, cougars and bobcats, prairie dogs and
prairie chickens, alligators and garfish, bald eagles and red hawks, rattlesnakes and water moccasins, frogs
and lizards, buzzards and owls, whooping cranes and wild geese..THEY are just some of the TRUE "owners"
of "America" and those who survive the nastiness of all the red, white, black, brown and yellow men (ALL of
of whom are just ugly strangers passing through) will one day own it all again...and they'll manage it far better
than "WE" ever did....
Corporate America's expansion into China was paid for by the American taxpayer. Bush's “tax cuts for the rich” policy helped to fund this transition. That's why no American jobs were created but a lot of Chinese jobs were. Republican politicians represent the corporate rich, the 'job creators'. When was the last time you saw a job created in the U.S.? The rich don't pay tax in this country and their corporations are physically based in communist China; where, by the way, SOCIALIZED healthcare and SOCIALIZED education are the norm and ALL the banks are state owned. These former American companies only pay tax in China, supporting a growing communist government and military. Republican politicians sold us (U.S.) out. These guys aren't batting for us (U.S.) anymore.
True.
If you sum-up percentages it's totaling to 75.5, not 100%. It's a shame for CNN to print such a data
I MUST MAKE A FORTUNE AND COVERT IT INTO CHINESE CURRENCY FAST!
WHENEVER I SEE THOSE REDDISH=PINK NOTES...
我爱美国！
CHINA STILL HSD THE MOST 1.16 TRILLIAN OF OUDEBT. tI=O ME IT IS INEXCUSABLE THAT WE SELL OUR DEBT ON THE WORLD MARKET. wHAT ARE THEY THINKING IN WASHINGTON?
With that much money owed to all creditors-whether US banks or other countries, when can we be liquid again? Maybe never. Result–US economists will redefine that stability of a country can be quantified by how much it owes creditors. WOW!!!!! I hope I get credit that I thought about this first.
getting curry smell
How Could it be possible INDIA gonna super duper power ? Indian KID eat rock from the street and man sold there wife for the debt , now you telling India is SUPER DUPER POWER ? You have got kidding at me huh ?
Indian Firms Employ Tens of Thousands of Americans: US Official
Noting that India's direct investment in the US has grown by an average of 33 percent each year since 2005, a top US official has acknowledged that Indian companies employ tens of thousands of Americans.
By IANS September 28, 2011 at 4:35 AM
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Noting that India's direct investment in the US has grown by an average of 33 percent each year since 2005, a top US official has acknowledged that Indian companies employ tens of thousands of Americans.
In the decade between 2000 and 2010, Indian investment has increased from a negligible $96 million to over $3.3 billion, deputy secretary of state Bill Burns said at the 3rd FICCI-Brookings Dialogue on "Is there a future of India-US strategic dialogue" here Tuesday.
India-US bilateral economic relationship is anchored in the realisation that their long-term interests are essentially congruent and mutually reinforcing, he said at the event organised by the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry with the Washington think tank.
"Together, we are drawing the best from both of our societies to make better products that compete and win in the global economy," Burns said noting Tata Steel has a plant in Ohio, while Boeing uses engineers in Bangalore to design 787s whose parts are manufactured across America.
Noting "the modernisation of India and the lifting up of hundreds of millions of Indians out of poverty necessarily remains the focus of the Indian government", he said India has no more important partner than the US in this endeavour.
"This extraordinary - and so far extraordinarily successful - effort requires India to sustain its high rate of economic growth, open markets for its goods and services, and attract the investment needed to realise its vision of inclusive development," he said.
"There is no more important partner for India in this endeavour than the United States," Burns said.
Over the past decade, India-US bilateral trade has doubled and then almost doubled again, he said while US total direct investment in India rose 10-fold, from $2.4 billion in 2000 to $27.1 billion in 2010, he noted.
check this -> US pushing to sell radar-evading F-35 fighter jets to India
http://www.firstpost.com/world/us-making-a-push-to-sell-radar-evading-f-35-fighter-jets-to-india-121339.html
Fareed Zakaria talks what the CNN intructs him, otherwise he will lose his job. CNN network, is a same political propaganda machine, no different from the radio or television stations of the east block countries.
Perhaps Fareed forgot where he came from. If Fareed is really political savvy, he should compare India with China and tell the audience the sharp difference between those two countries. Do not use the political rhetoric to criticize. Facts: China and India have similar population. However, China has the world 2nd largest GDP, 2nd largest public transportation (subways, bullet trains and bus systems) and has one of the world best sport teams. How about India ? At least 30 years behind China. Any visitor will see the public transportation in India is a mess. Highway quality is so horrible that you do not want to see. Apart from criquet sport, has anyone seen India won any major sport event ? Swimming, Gymnastics, Track and Field ? The Indians think they are Europeans, except their economy is so far behind.
Wow, what a relief. I thought Mandarin was coming mandatory since Spanish didn't quite make it as an official national language.
Can you tell the Owners of Greece to SELL before they go bankrupt?
Jokes aside, thanks for the obscure factoid.....I had zero idea in spite of all the (dis)information at our finger tips these days.
WHO OWNS AMERICA? (Hint: it's not china) –Of course not. America's real owner is our Lord Jesus Christ. And not only America, but the whole world. Now, on the other hand, America owes its debt primarily to the 1% who owns everything else in the nation.
It's easy to forgive our own debts but to owe $4.5+ trillion dollars to someone else is a burden to we can never repay. We'll be held accountable for the rest of America's history on Earth. Our reputation of owing what we can't pay back is nothing patriotic or honors our forefathers. We went down a road of true embarrassment.
REVISED. It's easy to forgive our own debts but to owe $4.5+ trillion dollars to someone else is a burden to which we can never repay back. We'll be held accountable as swindlers for the rest of America's history on Earth. Our reputation of owing what we can't pay back is nothing patriotic or shows any honor our forefathers. We went down a road of true embarrassment.
I still am trying to figure out who Ghandi is!
INDIA: On a Goat and a Stick:
The problem with India is that is built on a system of cultural and societal values based on Hinduism which is a cult. Nations built on a cult seldom survive in the long run. You can only take it so far based on symbolisms of a goat and a stick with a skinny little man aka gandhi banging boys at night and spinning wheels during daytime.
Pakistan!!!
the idiot who says india is a cult ridden country is an idiot for sure and chinese are not ugly and america is not going down the drain too because america is a country which values freedom and any country which values freedom will never fail .
So basically America is eating itself alive with dead. Biting our own tail per se.
Becky it sounds like your also blaming the LDS church for your prior issues. Free Agency is the key here, not the LDS church forcing you.
The phrase was "LIFE ALTERING" I have the answer to the riddle! If the writers would like to contact me I would gladly tell them about what was on page 47. It's a bold statement I know but we could take movie goers to a totally new place never seen before. I don't claim to be better than anyone else who has written comments but my answer to the riddle is "LIFE ALTERING". Think of my comments as an anomaly and thats what they are looking for. The history I speak of is not as it seems, people have missed what was was right in front of them. NO CHARGE!
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This may be the case, but the concern over China's 1.6 trillion in US bonds vs. what "America owes America" should be obvious: America is not going to call in its debt on America. China can. That is the issue.
Americas money isnt owned by america, thats why it says Federal Reserve Note on top of the bills, and the federal reserve isnt owned by the american ppl either, and no china dont own it either.
The American people have not been allowed (by act of congress) to own gold for a very long time, therefore is the actual american dollar actualy legal tender if its not issued by tresurery, seeing as its backed by gold that the countrys people have not been allowed to own.
Should it be asked, Who ownes the Federal Reserve ? not china, not america, Who ???
Facts of America and American People
1) 95 % people are fooled by 5 % wealthy here by saying America is rich and prosperous and Asia is backward.
2) Most of the American never went outside America and know the facts of world just happy in assumption that America has great life.
3) If looked at middle population in America, Indian and Chinese are the one who hold money in America.
4) All middle level jobs are done by American where as 90 % Indian here does high paid jobs.
5) America is finding it difficult day by day to fool world by saying that America and American are rich. They are one among poor and middleclass in America.
6) Without credit most of American cannot afford to pay one day meal or one tynol dose.
7) Most of doctors, engineers and lowers are Indian in American.
8) By 2020 you cannot hide the possibility that any Indian or Chinese origin person will be president of America.
9) American media and corporate are benefiting the uneducated Americans by playing with their emotions and firing their false assumptions.
10) Next generation America will not be land of opportunity but will be land of insanity.
11) American Era has gone. Next generation will be poor and mostly ruled by immigrants here (Indian or Chinese).
Israel and Sudi Arabia
So America owes most of the debt to itself? I don't see how this could be so. It all stinks of one big Ponzi scheme.
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The story above is only 11% of the whole story. Paul Krugman wrote a great column about this very subject last month.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/02/opinion/krugman-nobody-understands-debt.html
"It’s true that foreigners now hold large claims on the United States, including a fair amount of government debt. But every dollar’s worth of foreign claims on America is matched by 89 cents’ worth of U.S. claims on foreigners. And because foreigners tend to put their U.S. investments into safe, low-yield assets, America actually earns more from its assets abroad than it pays to foreign investors. If your image is of a nation that’s already deep in hock to the Chinese, you’ve been misinformed. Nor are we heading rapidly in that direction."
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Maybe i'm missing something but the numbers only equal 75.5%. Who owes the other 24.5%?
the 1% of rich america owes america!
Oh I am afraid here the dabate abt india , china , america.
why people are comparing india with china . OMG u cannot believe how the poor people survive in india.
I have been india 3 times , india is one of poor country i have ever seen, tens of millions people are poor.
Compare to india , china is far more better in everything.
Yes, but! Do not forget the system and culture....this Chinese are Communist, Indians (a vast majority well over 80%) are Hindu, and they believe in the cast system, a system that is perfectly fine with the poverty, they believe its the poor (Dalit) caste's karma to be impoverished, they earned it if you will.
"So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion." I still want to know Y we cant use the same formula Clinton did for ELIMINATING! the deficit.
if Americans owe Americans then why not write off the I. O. U
Americans may owe Americans, but each debt involves (at least) two different parties. You can't just dismiss debt by saying we owe it to ourselves.
_aleph_
This article is misleading on the issue of the Social Security trust fund. It fails to note that the •Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion (19 percent), has been depleted consistently through the years and replaced in part with 'Special Issue' US Treasury securities that are non-negotiable. They are US Treasury bond issued directly to the Social Security trust fund that act as little more than IOU notes or place holders. This little bit of chicanery was hoisted on the Social Security trust fund beginning with the Ronald Reagan administration and continued through with the George W. Bush administration. This was made legally possible after the equity in the fund was re-labeled 'surplus' or 'excess' by the Reagan administration in order to enble that administration and those that succeeded it to borrow from the fund in order to finance ever growing deficits in the federal budget.
Link: http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2012/jan/03/john-boehner/john-boehner-says-social-security-trust-fund-faces/
The truth of the matter is that the Fed Govt owes on the Social Security trust fund over 2.6 trillion USD. The Social Security trust fund is not free from claims on its assets. The beneficiaries do not own it free and clear as they would if it were a pension trust fund vested separately.
1 % of rich americans own america....
20 % of rich chinese own china...
That's why.....
Chinese eat noodles....
Tom and Fareed, do you have any US paper currency in your pocket? If so, take out any denomination you have and look at it. You will notice that is says, "Federal Reserve Note". The US Government BORROWS it's money from the Federal Reserve (a private company) AT INTEREST. As such, not only do we pay interest on bonds that we have sold, we pay interest on the money that we used to create the bonds in the first place. Technically, even though the US owes all of it's debtors, the Federal Reserve owns everything. The good news is that if we get rid of the FED, our dollar that was worth 100 pennies when they took over in 1913 is now only worth 9 pennies .. oh wait, I thought that was the good news ... but I digress. Part "B" of "fun with the FED" is that, since they took over in 1913, almost 80% of the value of the US Markets is inflation. Just in case you are wondering, that 80% came straight out of the bank accounts/paychecks of the "average" US citizen. It would be great if y'all would understand how criminal and dire the situation is and then report on it – I am sure many people in this country would love to know how they have getting fleeced for almost 100 years. Look at it this way, they are going to find out sooner or later ... and yes, it WILL be ugly. Talk to the people at CNN or TIME, it would be nice if one of these organizations would actually practice journalism again ...
"So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion."
why did fareed fail to mention the fed reserve holds well over 6 trillion in our debt? just in case you you were wondering where the difference between 9.8 trillion and 15 trillion is. and you can also see this exposed in a slide show on cnbc.
oh and you know who owns the fed? share holders such as jp morgan and goldman sachs.
Well, if we owe ourselves, then why don't we just renig on ourselves and pay off the rest of the world?
Gtfo noob.
Of course, fool, it is not China> u know that your masters who possess every inch in USA . including ur stupidity , AIPAC> those who force every slave of the american gov, kneels asking for mercy . those who changed your bible, sacrificed in their sep11 plot by christians , but no jew went to the towers, thu it was tuesday,not cursed saturday, they forcedmmanipulated elect machines to pass their nephew, who was brought up in his jewish uncle to execute sep 11 plot, as it came to there was no WMD , and we all now that arabs away and can not reach USA, while Isael agents occupy media,economy and even your corrupted minds, they stole your uranium and military secrets, and you can do nothing to your masters , who betrayed christ ( if they say not us, then they should not visit Palestine
Talmud plots to destroy all human kind , as Their evil God tells them, and take all christians and muslims as slaves
muslims consider all messengers of God as purified persons, chosen by God
God is one, and one God does not send many religions, it is one God,one religion: Islam
imbrace Islam you gain Muhammad and Christ and all Messengers of God( PBUTHEM ALL (
wake up or it is too late drunkard
farid is a fanatic and deceive you
So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion. """" Take the Credit Card Away from The Republicans and Democrats.......
ISRAEL!
You are 100% correct. No one can hide it anymore.
The Jews own America.
People keep talking about how much the Indians own...When I was growing up Tonto was the only Indian I knew and he owned a horse...Now if the Government, and the people who owe the government would start sending me the trillions owed, then I would gladly make sure everyone gets paid...Now that was simple....Next issue!
It's funny, the Government doesn't have the nerve to post the REAL debt. Including 'unreported' money borrowed from Social Security, Veterans' Benefits, Government Employee pension plans, and etc., the total debt of the U.S. government is around $73 Trillion.
The weak-math-skills argument that debt is owed mostly to Americans ignores the tremendously bad trend away from that. What's not mentioned here is that when Clinton left office, 7/8 of all foreign debt was owed to Americans. Now it's roughly like 2/3. Soon it will be half.
Benny Neten yahoo and his cronies own the U.S.
فساد ونفط يربط ذهبي مخابرات الاردن بأحمد المالكي والشهرستاني
في مطار الملكة علياء الدولي تم أواخر الشهر الماضي القاء القبض على الفريق المتقاعد (محمد عبد اللطيف الذهبي) مدير عام دائرة المخابرات الاردنية السابق ونجله عندما كان يعتزم التوجه الى احدى الدول الاوربية , وكان تم طرده الذهبي من منصبه قبل اكثر من ثلاث اعوام بموجب مرسوم ملكي حيث كان تولى رئاسة الجهاز بين عامي ( 2005 لغاية 2007 ). وسبب الطرد كان تورط الذهبي بفضيحة اختلاس وفساد وغسيل اموال والمتاجرة بالجنسية والرقم الوطني والجوازات وإصدارها الى رجال اعمال عراقيين وعرب مقابل مبالغ مالية وصلت الى كل جنسية وجواز ورقم وطني مليون دولار حيث كان قام بها خلال فترة رئاسته لجهاز المخابرات وبعد صدور مذكرة القاء قبض من قبل القضاء الأردني“. وحسب "منظمة عراقيون ضد الفساد" فانها قد اتصلت مع مصدر حكومي عراقي مسؤول مطلع في وزارة النفط ومن خلال اتصال عاجل معه خلال الايام الماضية لغرض شرح تفاصيل الحدث من داخل اروقة القرار العراقي حيث هناك شبهات بتورط مسؤولين ومستشارين ووزراء في حكومة (نوري المالكي) بملف غسيل أموال النفط العراقي المصدر الى الاردن. وافاد المصدر الحكومي المسؤول بأن :” المكتب الخاص بمستشارين نوري المالكي ونجله احمد في حالة من الارباك الشديد والهلع بعد انتشار خبر القاء القبض على مدير المخابرات الاردني السابق (محمد الذهبي) لان هناك علاقة سابقة ووطيدة ربطت الاثنين معآ ومنذ الاشهر الاولى لتولي (نوري المالكي) رئاسة الوزراء الاولى . في حينها أقترح وزير النفط السابق (حسين الشهرستاني) على (نوري المالكي) في اجتماع خاص ضم إضافة الى كل من: (سمير حداد / أبو زينب) القيادي في حزب الدعوة والمشرف العام على جهاز مخابرات حكومة المالكي وكالة , وكذلك (طارق نجم عبد الله / أبو منتظر) مدير مكتب المالكي سابقآ إضافة الى (احمد نوري المالكي) نجل رئيس الوزراء والذي دخل على الخط مؤخرآ لاشتراكه بالاستحواذ على حصته من هذه الاموال بعد ان علم بهذا الموضوع من والده شخصيآ ,ولأنه حاليآ يعتبر المحرك والمسيطر الرئيسي والمشرف العام والمباشر على جميع العقود والمناقصات والمصاريف النثرية التي تخص الامانة العامة لمجلس الوزراء “. ويضيف المسؤول العراقي بأن "الجميع اتفقوا خلال الاجتماع باستغلال فرق السعر المدعوم من النفط العراقي المصدر الى الاردن وبأسعار تفضيلية تقل عن سعره الاصلي في السوق العالمية وإيداع هذه الاموال المتحصلة من وراء فرق الاسعار بحساب خاص وسري في (بنك الاسكان والتجارة الاردني) لغرض تمويل مصاريف (حزب الدعوة) ومقراته وكذلك والاهم شراء الذمم من شيوخ وصحفيين ومثقفين وأساتذة ونواب من غير كتلتهم البرلمانية. ولغرض عدم اثارة هذا الموضوع اعلاميآ أو قضائيآ أو حكوميآ في الاردن فقد دخل على الخط في حينها وأشرك (حسين الشهرستاني) مدير المخابرات الاردني في حينها (محمد الذهبي) في هذا الموضوع مقابل مبالغ مالية طائلة تدفع له وتحول الى حسابه السري الخاص في احد البنوك السويسرية لقاء تدخلاته الشخصية لتسهيل معاملات دخول هذه الاموال المختلسة الى (بنك الاسكان) وطلب منه (الشهرستاني) كذلك بأن يقوم جهاز المخابرات الاردني بتزويد حكومة (نوري المالكي) وبشكل سري ودوري كل ثلاث اشهر بتقارير مفصلة حول اعداد وعناوين وأموال وشركات القيادات البعثية والشخصيات السياسية المستقلة والصحفيين المعارضين لنهج حكومته ,وكانت هذه التقارير المفصلة تصل دوريآ وتباعآ وحسب ما تم الاتفاق عليه وانقطعت لغاية طرد (محمد الذهبي) من جهاز المخابرات , ولكن لا أعلم هل لازالت لغاية الان مستمرة أم لا هذه التقارير السرية المفصلة , حتى ان (الذهبي) كان يمارس ضغوط وابتزاز على شيوخ هيئة علماء المسلمين في عمان وتحديدآ الشيخ حارث الضاري لغرض ثنيهم عن الاستمرار في انتقاد حكومة (المالكي) “. النفط العراقي الى ألأردن ثم الى أسرائيل
ويواصل المسؤول الحكومي العراقي في توضيحاته متحدثا عن صادرات النفط العراقية الى الاردن وبأسعار تفضيلية أقل بكثير من سعره في السوق العالمية بقوله:” أن قيمة اجمالي ما يصدره العراق من نفطه الى الاردن تبلغ شهريآ 320 الف برميل وبسعر البرميل الواحد 45 دولار أمريكي مع فارق سعر زيادة عن كل برميل مصدر الى الاردن تضعه حكومة (نوري المالكي) بحساب خاص وسري في (بنك الاسكان والتجارة) الاردني ولا يستطيع احد السحب من هذه الاموال المختلسة منذ فتح هذا الحساب إلا فقط كل من (سمير حداد ) و( حسين الشهرستاني) ثم أضيف خلال الاشهر الماضية أسم (احمد نوري المالكي) وهم الذين لهم الحق حصريآ فقط بالسحب من هذه الاموال من البنك والتصرف بها , حيث بلغت قيمة أجمالي الاموال المودعة في بنك الاسكان من جراء فرق اسعار النفط لغاية نهاية سنة 2011 بأكثر من ملياري دولار امريكي “. ويقول المسؤول: هذا مع العلم أن (نوري المالكي) وفي فترة حربه مع خصومه السياسيين من الكتل والأحزاب الاخرى ولغرض شراء دعم أصوات القيادات البعثية المتواجدة في الاردن لغرض نيل رئاسة الوزراء لفترة ثانية ـ وهذا ما حصل بعدها ـ فأنه اصبح يدفع لحوالي الفين من القيادات البعثية المتواجدة في كل من الاردن وسوريا ولبنان مبالغ مالية عبارة عن رواتب وهدايا وإعانات مالية مستمرة من هذه الاموال المودعة في بنك الإسكان “. اعادة تصدير النفط لإسرائيل
ثم أن هناك مسالة مهمة جدآ ما زالت غير منظورة على الساحة السياسية العراقية , وهي ان قسم من النفط العراقي المصدر الى الاردن يعاد تصديره وتحميله من ميناء العقبة بواسطة بواخر الشحن النفطية الاسرائيلية ويصل الجزء الاكبر منه الى اسرائيل أي ان هناك نفط عراقي مصدر الى الاردن من قبل حكومة (نوري المالكي) وبموافقته يصل الى اسرائيل مباشرة , وقد حدث في نهاية عهد ( محمد الذهبي) خلافات مادية فيما بينهما حول طلب الاخير بزيادة حصته من الاموال النفطية المختلسة نتيجة ارتفاع اسعار النفط في السوق العالمية , وقد تدخلت السفارة الاسرائيلية في عمان بهذا الموضوع لحل الخلاف بين مكتب (نوري المالكي) و(محمد الذهبي) ونجحت السفارة في انهاء الازمة فيما بينهما حفاظا على سهولة واستمرار تدفق النفط العراقي اليها “. دور نائر الجميلي
وقالت "منظمة عراقيون ضد الفساد" حسب ما توفر لها من معلومات صحفية موثقة من مصادرها الاصلية , انه تبين تبين لها :أن على رأس قائمة رجال الاعمال العراقيين الذين سوف يتم استدعائهم من قبل القضاء الاردني خلال الايام القادمة والذين حصلو على جواز السفر والجنسية والرقم الوطني هو (نائر محمد أحمد الجميلي) وعائلته وأقربائه صاحب شركة (العين الجارية) وكذلك المدعو(قاسم صغير ديب الراوي) وعائلته وهو شريك رئيسي بعقود الفساد بوزارة الدفاع (العراقية) مع المدعو (نائر الجميلي).
وقالت المصادر ان (نائر الجميلي) وهو بدوره شقيق زوجة وزير الدفاع السابق والمستشار للشؤون العسكرية حاليآ لحكومة (نوري المالكي) سعى جاهدآ لغرض أن يتم تدخلهما سياسيآ واقتصاديآ لدى الحكومة الاردنية والملك عبدالله الثاني "بصفة شخصية" لغرض ارغام القضاء الاردني على غلق ملفه وعدم اثارته اعلاميآ وهذا ما اوضحه من خلال احاديثه خلال الايام الماضية لدى بعض اقربائه وأصدقائه التجار الاخرين الذين سوف يتم استدعائهم من قبل القضاء الاردني لحصولهم على الوثائق والجنسية وأن لم يفعلوا له شيء سوف يفضح جميع ملفات وعقود الفساد وسوف يأخذ معه الى السجن الذين كانوا متورطين معه على حد قوله . ويشار الى انه وحسب ما قالت مصادر تتابع شأن فضيحة الذهبي واركان الحكومة العراقية برئاسة المالكي، فإن موضوع تقديم (محمد الذهبي) الى القضاء الاردني جاء بعد أن نصحت وزارة الخارجية الامريكية الملك عبدالله الثاني في زيارته الاخيرة الى واشنطن بأن يتم تقديم (الذهبي) الى القضاء لغرض امتصاص سخط وغضب الشارع الاردني الذي يخرج كل فترة بمظاهرات وهتافات يطالب فيها بمحاكمة رموز الفساد والمسؤولين في الاردن. ولوحظ انه بعد عودة الملك من رحلته الى اميركا مباشرة، فان القضاء الأردني بدأ بإجراءاته ضد (محمد الذهبي) وتقديمه الى المحاكمة وعدم السماح له بالهرب مهما كلف الامر, خوفآ من كشف الذهبي لبعض أهم رموز الفساد في الاردن والمرتبطين بصورة مباشرة ببعض اعضاء الحكومات الاردنية السابقة والحالية. شكوى ضد الذهبي بالاحتيال بـ 5.5 مليون دينار
والى ذلك، باشر مدعي عمان القاضي أشرف الحباشنة امس الاول التحقيق في قضية جديدة ضد مدير المخابرات الاسبق محمد الذهبي. وجاءت القضية من طرف ابن وزير التصنيع الحربي العراقي عبد التواب حويش في عهد الرئيس السابق صدام حسين الذي يدعي على الذهبي بتهمة الاحتيال. ومفاد الشكوى ان ابن حويش سلم اشخاصا قالوا انهم مقربون من الذهبي مبلغ 5.5 مليون دينار مقابل توسط الذهبي لدى السلطات العراقية للافراج عن حويش . وحسب الشكوى فان المبلغ سلم الى الاشخاص وعندما اكتشف ابن حويش انه وقع ضحية احتيال تقدم بشكوى الى دائرة المخابرات لكنه ابعد من الاردن. ولكن بعد اقالة الذهبي عاد ابن المسؤول العراقي السابق الى الاردن ليتقدم بشكواه ضد الذهبي.
we need lex luthor to save america. Lex for Presidency 2012
So if you look at the numbers provided, those numbers added up, only account for $10 trillion of the 14.3 Trillion debt... Where did the oher 4.3 trillion go? Anyone?
NO secret any more.All around the world know that ISRAEL owns AMERICA and control America's foreign policy.Why ask?
I agree with thanos here, Lex is a GOD among men and he will save U.S. from the recession and many wars. I mean this guy is a genius level intellect who would empower mankind. I believe in Lex Luthor. In Lex we trust.
well just build a hindu temple , all the donations will cover up for the Debts America has
yet one china is an authoritative and India is a democracy ...any person with some material in his head would opt for a democracy though the development is slow its guaranteed as it happened India got its Independence just 60 years back compare it with the US 60 years after its independence you will understand
"people need to know that there is a country in Asia called Bhutan which recently turned a democracy and they don't have GNP"gross national product "where china and America will obviously be far ahead of others but have given more importance to GNH"gross national happiness" and many american scholars have also supported it .......where for sure china for that matter US will figure in bottom 50 .......majority of Indians and Bhutanese may be poor but they are satisfied and much happier than their Chinese and the Americans counterparts.
for all you american haters on here who think china or india is better than america, who think the rest of the world hates us, well i will tell you all this when the crap hits the fan in all your countries who do you all call for, America thats who, not china, not india, not britain, not france, not germany, not brazil, or any other develop country, you all call for american help, so if you guys are so on top and you have americas number then step up when a crises occurs around the world say china or india will send aid, be it military or economic or humanitarian, while we do appriciate more countries being more prosperous because thats good for all mankind, what you do with that new prosperiaty for your fellow man what are you doing to keep people safe around the world when i here people in the middle east like syria, or libyia or egypt call for india or chinise help with a dictator or a disaister than down talk America until then while america is pulling all the weight while your countries sit back a prosper while letting america handle world problems you are not a super power you are a prosperous nation but no super power
and isreal does not own america, we share a common religion not the same but common through Jesus alot of christians think they have a direct line to god by being isreal friend and having jesus as gods only son which ties their religion, so for christians they have a direct stake in the protection of isrealies and to have a people that you have a bond with come under attack you protect them like we would do with our other allies, but our other allies tend to live without fear of being killed by their neighbors, we also must dis agree with our allies when they go to far, or they need to take a chill pill and let cooler heads prevail, and sometimes it depends on who our president is will determine how much backing they will get but make no mistake any attack against them will trigger hostililtys from america
victor is right about one thing, America has lost it's faith in Lex Luthor. I mean who was the one who saved the world from Imperiex, the destroyer of galaxies. It was Lex Luthor's presidential cabinet who spearheaded the earth's defence. It was he who solved the second great depression by buying the U.S. debt. Who gave the U.S. the technological advancement by creating a program called CADMUS. It was LEX LUTHOR. I still believe in Lex. He should be the next and only President of the United States. IN LEX WE WILL ALWAYS TRUST.
As for who owns the US? Bankers. A few very rich bankers. Throw in some big corporations that have bought our politicians and you complete the picture. We are not free, we are all slaves to the bankers, corporations, and don't forget Israel because its the motherland for both of the above.
FYI I am non religious. As far as I am concerned religion is a joke that has been created to control the masses. Who created the earth? A magical unicorn s hit it out in a beautiful spectacle of color and light. Sound ridiculous? About ridiculous as a dead guy coming off a cross and walking on water. Believe in your nonsense fairy tails while the real bogyman pulls the wool over your eyes. Wake up you stupid ignorant people and look at the world you have allowed to form right under your nose.
Edit. Wow, CNN auto removes comments that mention Israel instantly. There is no way a human could have done it the same time I hit submit. Who is the crazy tin foil hat wearing one now?
I had to spoof my IP and make it look like I was from Israel to get that last comment (and this one) to show up on this site. I wonder why CNN would not allow anyone from outside Israel to post comments about them? I am sure its just a site glitch. Just like CNN refused to report (what BBC reported) that Israel bought a bunch of billboards in NY that said US jews should come "home" because the US is just warping their minds and a bad influence. They should "go home" and take the Catholics, Museums, and the rest of the religious wack jobs with them when the go.
How do country borrow money? Does Obama go to one of those country and ask do you have spare a cash man!!!
Friends of India, More cell phones exist in India than Indoor Toilets! Within India, the tyrants can extort and expropriate the earnings and assets of the middle class and the poor through inflation and corruption. Outside, thievery is not an option to the Republic's oldest profession, &'beggary' which is so dependent on 'good will'.
New Delhi: As one of the 15-largest foreign creditors to the US, India's exposure to the United States' ballooning debts is estimated at $41 billion, higher than the money America owes to countries like France and Australia.
The overall national debt of the US is moving nearer to $15 trillion, out of which it owes over $4.5 trillion to foreign countries holding the US government debt securities.
While China is the single-largest holder of the US treasury securities with $ 1.15 trillion, India stands at 14th position with $41 billion (about Rs 1.83 lakh crore), as per the US Treasury Department.
So as you can see Friends of India, you are a bit off the mark.
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace! -Buddha
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What about the missing 24.5% that is not accounted for?
The US Treasury owes itself. Hello, HELLO. Can people not realize the whole house of cards is a COMPLETE AND UTTER SCAM.
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This is ridiculous, how can America owe America 9.8 trillion of dollars when the American public don't even have a large savings pool to start with? It's like taking a lone from yourself when you don't have any money to begin with.
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4.5 trillion dollars is a lot. Just because we owe ourselves about twice that doesn't mean 4,500,000,000,000 is not a big number.
It's like owing $100,000 on a credit card, but also owing $200,000 to your retirement account. You're not screwed less just because you also owe money on your IRA.
This is absurd. They mixed debt with spending to make up this article. We do owe foreign governments money. We don't owe the social security system anything–that's how we're spending the money.
We do owe the Federal Reserve the most money. These are a group of private banks. Basically we owe a few individuals that control the federal reserve banks most of the money. That's who owns America.
"So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion."
What a load B.S.. The truth is, the central banks own all of our debt and have us in shackles running on a perpetual wheel of tax payments that will never satisfy what they say we owe. Which in reality is zero since the money is as good as what I can print here at home. What a fraud. Then you get people like Fareed who know the truth, but won't tell it because he's owned in part by the very same people. Gotta love corporate owned media who has a vested interest in never telling you about the scam that's being perpetrated on the world's population.
The private secret US Federal Reserve owns the largest share of US public debt of any organization in the world. It's not mentioned on the chart above. That is the depth of the secrecy. The debt was created for nothing, for free, as Americans sell their children into debt slavery for global bankers. The private secret foreign owned US Federal Reserve bank is not American, not Federal, has no reserves, and is not a bank. All debt is created out of thin air the way people create debts as "promises to pay" in the future. Read the Money Masters by Bill Still on Youtube. It's three hours long but explains the whole thing so totally well.
We are still paying for every war, every bullet, every plane, ever uniform, ever purchased for any war since the Mexican American war of 1846. The public debt has grown at 8% a year, paid interest only, since 1846. It's now $16 TRILLIOIN, Ten Trillion created in the last twelve years. We are in deep trouble. End the Fed or the Fed will end the USA.
I knew that we owned more of our own debt than any other source, but wasn't aware that we owned more than twice as much than the rest combined.
I am glad the USA owns most of itself, that is nice to know. Why would someone escape from China to the USA to return to its idealogical maw and clutches, its majority poverty? The people in Shanghai make the rest of the people in China sick with the class and economic divide. Snobs.
Before 1971 when the dollar was taken off the gold standard, US Households own the majority of America debt, as it should be. Individuals in debt on average normally pay their debts. Governments and government agencies in debt dont have to pay their debts. Thats what happens when you have a purely fiat currency, unlimited government spending. And thus, we are screwed unless Ron Paul is elected and returns fiscal sanity to government.
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If the U.S owns its debt, it means that no body wants to absorb so much debt being offered in the markets; thus the U.S treasury need to purchase it to cover expenses of the united states government. . . .for how long can you keep your own debt? it seems like the BRICS have started bilateral trades of currency swaps to escape the exuberant privilege of the U.S dollar.
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USA will win they are in NATO which is
Albania
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada
Croatia
Czech Rep
Denmark
Estonia
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States
"Son, I have met the enemy and it is us!" Pogo Possum
Every taxpayer owes $150,000.
I'm voting a straight Republican ticket in November.
You can keep the change. It's a bunch of Barbara Streisand.
oh so we only owe foreigners 4.50billion a year for 100 years, phew, i thought it was going to be a high number...
45bil/year sry.
So, CNN seems to believe that it's ok for our Social Security trust fund to be the biggest debtor contributor to our bloated government. This obviously points to the fact that the government is raiding Social Security in order to pay for it's over spending. As an individual who is getting close to retirement age, I find this extremely disturbing. Meanwhile, you ( CNN ) are going out of your way to keep individuals like Ron Paul ( the only one who wants to do something about it ), from even getting a chance at becoming president.
amanda waller is right. LEX LUTHOR should be the next president in 2012. He motivates the population by making us achieve more than we have right now. He has a GOD INTELLECT unparalled to anyone. Lex Luthor, please save us. In LEX we will always trust.
arnim, you are right. This country has become the champion of stagnation. Haven't the american people ever heard of survival of the fittest. The politicians have calcified mankind's ability to evolve physically and mentally by inhibiting the individuals right to progress into society's status quo. LEX LUTHOR can change that by applying his God Intellect to solve our financial and evolutionary crisis by giving us advance financial and genetic technology and putting us American into the rightful place in cosmos. LEX lead us into this troubling times. In LEX LUTHOR we will always trust.
The shanty towns... It's called Occupy.
america is in debt because of yuhh guys you take out loans and get credit cards and yuhh know that yuhh wont pay back mutha bukeyes
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Interesting article on The U.S. Debt ceiling
And then at the end of it all they owe the federal reserve interest to pay back those people they owe... and the debt continues...
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Well this article makes me feel a whole lot better. So why don't we just loan ourselves another 10 trillion dollars and keep the party going?!
Glad to see that myth of the Chinese owning America put to rest. The USA may be down but they are not out and its only a matter of time again before they rise again-just like they did after the great depression.
On a side note- the troll "friendsofIndia" is not an Indian nor a friend of India.
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