August 3rd, 2011
02:15 PM ET

Why did Pakistan's spy chief make a secret trip to China?

By Ishaan Tharoor, Global Spin

Reports reveal Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, head of Pakistan's main military intelligence agency, the ISI, flew on a secret mission to Beijing for urgent talks this Monday. The visit followed swiftly on the heels of yet another round of diplomatic squabbling between Washington and Islamabad.

During a heated summer of disputes, tensions between the ISI and the CIA flared most recently over the alleged Pakistani harassment of American officials stationed in the country. Pasha's China trip has been interpreted by some as a tacit act of defiance — a reminder to his American counterparts that the Pakistanis can always look east to their “all-weather” friend across the Himalayas rather than bend the knee to the will of the U.S.

But it also may be a sign of China's growing disquiet with Pakistan. Another top-ranking Pakistani military officer, Lt. Gen Wahid Arshad, had already conducted a considerable tour of China just weeks ago in a bid to improve ties.

A few analysts have suggested that Pasha's trip — couched in vague terms about building a “broad-based strategic dialogue” — may have been less a visit and more of a summons.

After all, China claimed this week that Islamist militants trained in Pakistan were behind a violent attack in the far western city of Kashgar that killed at least 14 and injured dozens more. Like the U.S., perhaps the Chinese are now also frustrated at the dangers Pakistan has long let take root on its soil.

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    August 5, 2011 at 12:45 am | Reply
  2. militarystate

    Pakistan is miiltary state, the army and security forces are above the law. since 'crimes' done by the security forces are not investigated or enforced. and pakistan is a under marshall law...shoot first ask question later.

    August 5, 2011 at 2:10 am | Reply
    • RM

      You got that right Bud. The nukes have been dusted off and are all pointed east towards the Kama Sutra land aka Hindustan. Enjoy.

      August 5, 2011 at 7:58 am | Reply
  3. militarystate

    civil laws don't apply to the security services or the army under MARSHALL LAW. THE PUNISHMENT FOR MUTINY IS DEATH. disobeying or traitor is punishable by death no trials in the court. in doubt shoot. the gun is GOD,,rule by the gun

    August 5, 2011 at 2:13 am | Reply
  4. militarystate

    the military, secret police or secruity forces operate without supervision from the gov't bureaucrats who just write the checks to the army, security forces but no accountability how the money is used since the army and security forces are considered to be secret like military state. the army,secruity forces ISI is above all civilian laws. the activies of the army and securtiy forces are considered 'secret' in military state

    August 5, 2011 at 2:35 am | Reply
  5. militarystate

    in marshall law, a general can order soldiers or civilians killed with no trial in 'court' just because he feels like killing the soldier or civilian for dissing him

    August 5, 2011 at 2:42 am | Reply
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    August 5, 2011 at 4:02 am | Reply
  7. pakiiiiii

    the world is such a beautiful place u know its like heaven and such hate in the hearts of people have destroyed that heaven and changed it into hell.... the beings called human beings are ruling the planet earth because there is some thing called wisdom present in the upper chamber but unfortunately that part is not utilized properly and decisions are made abruptly.

    August 5, 2011 at 6:06 am | Reply
    • Rocker Malik

      We end all Vedic hymes with "Om shanti shanti shatihi".

      August 5, 2011 at 10:50 am | Reply
  8. Landia

    @to all indians who r blowing their American Dads.....
    Go F-U-C-K UR SELVES....Product of Cow Dung......Worshippers of Human genetials..

    August 5, 2011 at 7:04 am | Reply
  9. Trollindeployed

    Pshh....Fine let Pakistan be China's problem. Lets not forget though China has Mulsim terrorists too...Just recently they attacked a police station killing a few officers. So why not let the chinese dance the dance of la islam like the rest of the world does?

    August 5, 2011 at 7:22 am | Reply
  10. Count of MonteCristo

    Real reason of trip. Exploring opening bank account for Paki generals, buying properties in China, retirement of generals and politicians. A warning shot to US and London.

    August 5, 2011 at 9:02 am | Reply
  11. Count of MonteCristo

    general Shuja, how is chinese goat ?

    August 5, 2011 at 9:07 am | Reply

      it was like your sister. lol

      August 5, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Reply
    • PAKPRO

      better than a sunburnt jet black cow/monkey wor-shipp/sh1tt-er like u no doubt.

      August 5, 2011 at 2:57 pm | Reply
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    To all Paki. Dr Bakro Chod will teach good hygiene practice. For appointment call 0312-7629675

    August 5, 2011 at 9:21 am | Reply
    • PAKPRO

      learn hygiene 4m a cow/pi$$ drinker and rat-eater like u! he11 no! never

      August 5, 2011 at 2:59 pm | Reply
  13. Bigred

    Why the China trip? Easy. The Chinese want samples of that stealth blackhawk that went down in the Bin Ladin raid. No question about it!

    August 5, 2011 at 10:26 am | Reply

    Hey Pakistan Is great.

    August 5, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Reply
    • Desiguyz

      Went to China and shouted, MERI AUR MAAR.

      August 5, 2011 at 1:55 pm | Reply
  15. FerdinandIX

    It is like Mussolini and the Third Reich getting together again.

    August 5, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Reply
  16. Godfrey

    Obviously, one cannot good Chinese take-out in Pakistan.

    August 5, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Reply

    It's time to take out Pakistan through Saudi Arabia or Iran...

    August 6, 2011 at 7:33 am | Reply
  18. Skintaj

    I am a PAKISTANI living in UK. After reading all this filth in the comments....I wonder who is benefiting from all this....who wants this region to be divided and get advantages....... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .......... UK and FRANCE fought for 100 years BUT in this modern world they realized there is no future in anonymity.. people have intentionally forgotten the bad memories and are now building future on promising relationship....... HATE breeds HATE !!!!!!!!! ............................THINK and THINK again !!!!!!!

    August 6, 2011 at 10:12 am | Reply
  19. Skintaj

    and just to let you know.......Why did Pakistan's spy chief make a secret trip to China?...........1- Pakistan has developed a new technology which they are sharing with China.....( a small plutonium based bomb with limited area ( 50-100 miles) destruction which could be used as a very effective weapon and Pakistan wants china to provide its delivery system ( stealth technology which China has perfected recently ) 2- To discuss the ROAD-MAP of strategic development leading to new exRussian states POST USA withdrawal in Afghanistan..... PAKISTAN and CHINA have BIGGER plans !!!!!!!!!! ( not that they are against any country in the region >>> USA is a NON TRUSTWORTHY friend and is an OLD FRAIL LION in the jungle for that matter !!

    August 6, 2011 at 10:24 am | Reply
  20. Jarhead

    The Chinese would be right to worry. The sooner we get the hell out of the area and let the Chinese and Indians deal with those Pakistani sleaze bags, the better. Their nuke capacity is more of the threat to these two nations than to us.

    August 6, 2011 at 4:51 pm | Reply
    • pakiiiiii

      pak prevails.........

      August 7, 2011 at 5:30 pm | Reply
  21. Peter

    The guy comes there to extort China, ISI needs new source of revenue.
    God bless China this time.

    August 6, 2011 at 8:17 pm | Reply
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    August 17, 2011 at 2:34 am | Reply
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    December 23, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Reply
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