Editor's Note: Moammar Gadhafi's final hours seem to be upon him. But what happens when he is captured or killed? CFR’s Center for Preventive Action asked Daniel Serwer, a professor at Johns Hopkins’ School of Advanced International Studies and a scholar at the Middle East Institute, to think through the challenges that a post-Gadhafi Libya would pose for the United States and its allies. Dan’s complete report is here. Below is a summary of that report, reprinted with the permission of the Council on Foreign Relations.
By Dan Serwer, CFR.org
After Gadhafi, the first challenge will be security. Failure to maintain public order is what got us into big trouble in Iraq, where Saddam Hussein’s “stay behind” operation stirred civic unrest and destroyed government buildings.
The murder in Libya last month of the overall rebel commander is a reminder that internecine warfare among the more than forty-five rebel militias is a real possibility.
People who lost family and tribal members to the Gadhafi regime may seek to settle scores. Former regime elements may seek to defend themselves and to “privatize” state assets. Criminals will see opportunities to traffic in arms, drugs and even people.
The humanitarian challenges will be no less daunting. Fighting has displaced at least half a million Libyans from their homes. Perhaps half of those are still in Libya, and many who are not will seek to return quickly once Gadhafi falls.
Food, water, shelter and health services need to be secured for the most vulnerable. In addition, keeping water and electricity flowing to the residents of Tripoli and other major urban centers will be vital to maintaining public order.
U.S. interests in Libya are limited, but a relatively successful transition from the Gadhafi regime to a united, stable, more open and democratic Libya would be seen in the region and more widely as a credit to the NATO-led intervention.
It would also enable Libya to resume oil and gas exports, demonstrate the international community’s capacity to manage such transitions and encourage positive outcomes to other Arab Spring protests, including those in Yemen and Syria.
Failure to stabilize Libya could lead to chaos, breakup of the Libyan state that sets an unwelcome precedent elsewhere, or restoration of dictatorship.
These outcomes would all damage American and allied credibility and likely also cause major problems for our European allies, including shortfalls in energy supplies, loss of major investments and a continuing refugee flow. Refugees could also cause problems in Tunisia, Egypt, and the rest of the Mediterranean.
It is therefore the Europeans, along with the Arab League, who should take the lead in post-Gadhafi stabilization of Libya, under a clear United Nations Security Council mandate that recognizes a legitimate post-Gadhafi Libyan authority and sets out strategic goals for the transition.
Read: More CFR.org analysis of Libya.
The goals should include a united and sovereign Libya within its well-established borders that can sustain, govern and defend itself through inclusive democratic institutions, using Libya’s resources transparently and accountably for the benefit of all its people.
Quick deployment of a peacekeeping force of several thousand paramilitary police, mainly to keep order in Tripoli and other population centers, would help ensure these goals are met.
The European Union and its member states can deploy several hundred paramilitaries. Turkey and Arab countries might supply the remainder. An international peacekeeping operation would not administer Libya but would support an inclusive interim authority in maintaining stability, providing humanitarian assistance, and beginning the reconstruction process.
What if this does not work? NATO will need to be prepared to step in. Only as a last resort - to deal with widespread disorder, a threatened breakup of the Libyan state, or a humanitarian catastrophe - should the international community consider armed intervention without the invitation of a legitimate Libyan authority. This could mean U.S. boots on the ground, but only briefly as part of a broader multilateral effort.
Read: Gadhafi regime appears on the verge of collapse.
Leadership in post-Gadhafi Libya should be passed as quickly as possible to the Libyans, who have already set up local councils and a Transitional National Council, which help to organize and provide services in the liberated portions of the country. These indigenous institutions merit nurturing and support, including unfreezing of Gadhafi-era assets so that the councils in liberated areas can begin to meet the needs of their populations. The post-Gadhafi era has already begun there.
Libya is a resource-rich country with a relatively well-educated citizenry that has demonstrated courage under fire. The country lacks institutions and political experience, but not talent and commitment. The international community should prepare to support Libyan efforts to take charge of the country’s destiny once Gadhafi leaves the scene.
The views expressed in this article are solely those of Daniel Serwer.
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and now comes the insurgency....wait for it....its gonna get messy...now comes the hard part.
How can there be an insurgency if we don't have ground troops in Libya? Incidentally, I completely disagree with the writer's premise that the EU should deploy peacekeeping troops. This needs to be the rebels' show, come what may. Any foreign troops would both violate UNSC 1973 and would more likely be a destabilizing force, rather than providing stability.
Not the EU but the UN should keep an eye on the development of this new era in Libya. The EU reminds too much of NATO and I think some Libyans will resent it! In a few years history will show, whether everybody involved in this conflict had done the right thing or not!
Yea, its a good thing we had nothing to do with this and I'm sure everyone over there sees it this way too !
Agree. The US its in no position to send more troops to another country. All we need is for insurgents to get fed up with occupation and start shooting our troops. Lets not get involved on this one please. No more american blood should be lost in the middle east. The first steps of this government transition will not go easy and we do not know who will be taking over.
The rebels ARE the insurgency.
I predict Libya will become a state of Islamic extremists.
Failure to stabilize Libya could lead to chaos, breakup of the Libyan state that sets an unwelcome precedent elsewhere, or restoration of dictatorship...
Oil prices go up, hip hip hoorah and the people who cheered when the Twin Towers collapsed take over Libya, way to go O-duma. You're next to go down.
Why blame Obama for this, the Libyans basically liberated themselves. Do you support Ghadaffi who's hands are filled with much western blood. I know you live to blame Obama for everything from cancer to drought, but I don't understand the blame here
Hey llloyd are u a vet, do u know what it means to fight for ur country to have the right to say what you think? I havee, so kiss my a$$
Philip, I seriously doubt that you fought for America. If you had, then you would understand what the bill of rights is all about. Worse, you have ZERO ability to reason anything.
Look at the statement that says "Libya is a resource-rich country" Thats the reason the scandalous UN are in Libya
I agree Lloyd...it's Bush's fault.
Don't you love inarticulate responses that have no shred of connection to your post? As if that's not bad enough, you get two of 'em and they start arguing with each other – the original topic being long forgotten.
Philip, you were never in the military, and you are a disgrace to those brave men and women who are. Besides, you too ignorant and disrespectful for them to even give you pencil-pusher job.
Hey Phillip, how about you hop on board as an American and SUPPORT your legally elected president. When the time comes in 2012 the people will speak as they did 3 years ago. We has Americans need to stick together and make this world a better place. All your this side and that side BS do nothing but add to the problems. And to tell you the truth it's getting old really fast.
Should say – "We as Americans". Don't waste time attacking a typo. Stick to the point at hand.
Flew F-4's in Vietnam i cam say whatever I want, u love Oduma, I don't it's a free country. I fought for it too.
I don't "support" Obama any more than you supported Bush! I won't support policies I disagree with.
As for Libya, I hope things work out peacefully and the result is a free people than doesn't have to worry about internal terrorism, and who aren't a source of terrorism abroad. My hope aren't high. All we can do is watch and wait.
I respect you for serving for our country, but how does that make you recognize who is part of al qaeda or some other terrorist organization? It doesn't. Gaddafi is a evil dictator. The American revolution was basically the same as this. What if Spain or France called us terrorists then?
The cost of foreign wars helped bring down King Louis. Guess what one of those foreign wars was.
@ Me – Well said
Philip, I bet you prefer a war where 5000 American troops die – because that is real war – to protect America from made up stories of WMDs.
right you are. The most powerful faction will eventually assume power and that is likely to be the muslim brotherhood. Tha would never have happened had we not hit Libyas airforce and military with a constant barrage of missiles and fighter aircraft attacks. only obama and the left think a muslim theocracy better than a dictatorship, though their preference is communism.
Tea party terrorist...
gee that didnt take long to Blame Obama for removing a 40 year dictator once supported by the US.
next it will be thanks to GWB just like nGWB found Bin laden
McCain the other day said This took to long, during the prez campaign he was ready to stay in Iraq for 100 years.
keep your hate filled nonsense alive i guess
Actually, he's going to be re-elected. Did you not notice Khadafy Duck is running for his life without a single American serviceman injured? Seen Osama lately? America's strong again now that Dubya's ousted, and we're taking names for the next butt-kicking. I'm gonna get a Diebold voting machine and vote for him six times!
Saw the mess you left in SEA for myself. You really need to shut up now.
I left no mess, I did my duty, 2 tours, never shot down, you will never even stand in my shadow Oduma lover.
Do you realize how fooling you sound? Everyone who disagrees with you loves Obama (here's a tip, that's not the case), I bet you also use the Liberal vs Republican BS and genuinely believe there is a difference between the parties. That's foolish because in reality there is no difference between the parities. They both try to expand federal power, they both erode state rights and they are both intent on legislating morality (not intended by our founders). For the little amount of money spent on the Libya Campaign and the lack of boots on the ground I support the Libya operation as it's bringing down the "mad dog" of the North Africa (as Reagan called him). Gaddahfi has American blood on his hands (including soldiers), he's also responsible for as much regional interference as any of the worst dictators in the world. Why don't you examine your own positions and realize that neither the Dems or Repubs (or the Republicrats as I call them) aren't in the least bit different.
Ron Paul 2012 bring home the troops close the 700 military bases overseas.
Rp served i guess he is a socialist anti-american dummy too
Congressman Ron Paul – active duty flight surgeon from 1963-65; Air National Guard from 1965-68.
Ron Paul in march says this is Congress's choice and not an American fight
What comes next? One hell of a civil war
In case you missed it they essentially just fought a civil war. I think a key issue is whether it continues or not.
Reality after 40 years of dictator rules .. there is no functioning government or even a frame work. this perhaps is our future model of less government that the TP envisions
Phillip- How come you could not answer Lloyd's question? Instead you just threw in a red herring? Thank you for your service btw. I know it was not YOUR FAULT PERSONALLY for the Quagmire in Vietnam... you would think that, because of your service that you so proudly boast, you would understand how this isn't President Obama's fault either. This is a purely Libyan issue- Our president did the right thing by sending in support to prevent a blood bath of innocent Libyan bystanders. You think that was wrong to do? Eh... you probably do come to think of it- you people SUPPORT bloodbaths...
too bad you weren't there to see many of our squardons naplam drops, clearing the jungle for our grunts to do their job, but then you are a pu$$y, never know what it was like being chased by sidewinders everyday, semper fi!
And again you don't answer the question. Who is the pu$$y now? You just keep referring to what was probably the only eventful thing you've ever done in your life. How extraordinarily sad.
David, enough of that "saving civilians" BS talk. Do you know how many people were killed today?? How ignorant are you guys to look unto CNN to give you facts?? Libya had population of 6.4million people pre the war and 40% of those people were foreigners. If Libya was such a hell hole as the western media had made it out to be, that population ratio would never be. Libya was an advanced society when compared to other African nations. But guess what, that's all gone up in smoke now in the name of "Democracy". The saddest part, however, is what happens from ere. The same rebels that many of you are supporting are going to come back and wish death on our society. Don't be so easily led, people!!!
Would you like to live under a dictator?
I thought not.
It was Obama who announced [and via the government, financed ] the so-called Arab Spring, wasn't it? Hillary Clinton has just announced that "No organized opposition makes it difficult for America to advise/lead" So the US is involved ; and not very successfully.
I suppose the intention is well meant but I really believe you have opened a Pandora's Box and you"ll have a hell of a job controlling the outcome.
There's athreat of insurgency in Libya and a worry about the Interim Government. They haven't had to do much for 42 years with a tyrant in place.
The Salafists are trying to take over Egypt. They want Sharia Law which is at odds with the young secular protesters are demanding freedom of thought and action. This is a worry for the West.
Terrorists are now operating from Egypt. Hence the escalating problem for Israel
Ansar Sharia are fighting to take over in Yemen – There's an increase in child suicide bombers.
As I said – the blue touchpaper has been lit. I'm standing well back!
Sorry Hillary Clinto was talking about Syria. Should have made that clear!
No disrespect, David, you have your opinion. But didn't your President [with NATO] agree to bomb Libya well AFTER the Arab Spring was announced? Egypt and Tunisia were first to react to President Obama's speech, THEN Libya with Yemen, Oman, Syria etc soon after?
I totally agree that the situation was not ideal. Don't get me wrong, I'm not President Obama's biggest fan ( btw, it's OUR president, not YOUR president, assuming that the "Semper fi" name you're using implies that you're an American). He actually handled the whole "arab-spring" like a guy who has no clue on how to deal with foreign relations- an argument I made when I supported Bill Richardson for President in 2008. My whole diatribe earlier was in response to some moron who refused to, UNLIKE you, have an actual debate. Instead of responding respectfully with thought provoking comments like you did, that fool above would call anyone who disagrees with him a "Pu$$y" and wouldn't answer a single question, then rationalized by the fact that he "Proudly served his country four decades ago by dropping napalm on villages in Asia".
David, thanks for your thoughtful reply; you were very generous. I'm not American; I'm English. Semper Fi was my College motto.
marlowe...u r a clown. no one is objecting to ur freedom of speech. comments are being stated just as u did.
Dear garbage, i fought for you to have your gay marriage rights, and I am not attacking you for your gayness.
saying that he is gay is offensive and wrong. That offends both gay people and him. That basically means you have something against them.
I'd much rather be in a happy gay marriage than to be a washed up nothing whose only claim to fame was the fact that he helped drop napalm on asian villages four decades ago, and has probably done nothing since except drunkenly beat his wife claiming "PTSD" and popping Key Stone Lights with the buds from the cigar shop. See Marlowe? Words hurt sometimes. You are a disgrace to the people who fought and died for this country. Your fallen brethren would be ashamed of you.
With 45 different militias I have a hard time seeing Libya ending up being a peacefull deomocratic nation anytime before the next 50 years. The country will, most likely break up. NATO is going to be in Libya for a long time. Right now, NATO cannot afford to be in Libya for a long time.
The rebel militias were united in one cause: Get rid of Gadhaffi.
The events that have happen in Libya seem to have a recurring theme and pattern because it has happen across the Middle East time and time again. By using this pattern of events we can but together a knowledgeable guess as to what will happen Syria and Assad, Now the question I have to as is, To what means do the people in charge plan to do with the region?
Alex, I don't think it's a coincidence that this is happening across the M.E. It came from a direct invitation by President Obama for the Arab Nations to join in the 'Arab Spring'.
It was more than a little stupid to encourage uprisings in 11 M.E. countries simultaneousy. NOW we're stuck with the resulting chaos.
Many countries, including mine [UK] agreed, but it was Obama who announced it and appeared to take the lead, wasn't it?
You wrong there its not about Obama its those oil rich companies who want a piece of the pie in Libya
Obama didn't encourage anything. Rewrite the history a little. He stood on the sidelines for over a month while the protesters ratcheted up the protests every week. You might not want to believe it, you might want to blame someone for this, but the reality is that this was a protest movement given legs by Facebook and Twitter and controlled by no one but the people involved. Tunisia (Ali was one of the most brutal dictators in the world) fell without even a mention in the western press and it fell to the people of Tunisia no longer caring about their own lives. Egypt only fell because Tunisia showed them it was possible and that was the domino that started the rest.
The days of foreign powers organizing and supporting these types of things are gone in the free information society. There is a danger in Egypt and and the rest of the middle east of the salifists taking control, but you are willfully ignoring that Al Queda and the other terrorist organizations owe their existence to former colonial and US interference in the internal affairs of these countries. Most of the Al Queda leadership is derived directly from Islamist movement in Egypt that was put down by their dictators who supported and encouraged by the US. It was this direct intervention in the internal affairs of Egypt that created the terrorists who plague us today. The answer isn't to further repress the people and allow more terrorism to develop but allow the people of the middle east to go their own direction (and yes, there is a chance we won't get along with the new regime, but that's the will of their people). The vast majority of Muslims want to simply live their lives in peace and I personally don't believe the salifists will ever take control. They might influence the strictness of the laws but we only give them power by opposing them. Don't forget that it was exactly because we tried to Westernize Iran that we created the most hostile power to the US in the middleast (that same blowback caused the death of 200 marines in Lebanon).
In time the democracy itself and the free flow of information will ultimately undermine and destroy not only the terrorists but the Salifists that want to reimpose a dictator. And in the long run a free society will starve the Terrorists of recruits. Even if the Future north africa and Middle east has a more hostile stance to the US the ultimate result will be solving the most potent ammunition the terrorists have to recruit. Make no mistake, the Arab spring absolutely startled Al Queda, they had proclaimed for over a decade that the only way to get rid of the dictators in the middle east was armed revolt. The non-violent Arab Spring not only undermined their entire philosophy it made liars of them of put a shadow over the moral ground they claimed to occupy. Ultimately a free North Africa and middle east will destroy the Terrorists recruiting power.
Phillip, That same narrow-minded redneck yeehaw philosophy of yours is what got you put into Vietnam in the first place. and what got me put into Iraq 7 years ago. You troll on this site apparently to ruffle some feathers by bashing our commander in chief, and making sure you bash anybody who disagrees with you. if That's what makes you think you're going to earn respect as a Veteran, you're in for a rude awakening. not to mention it Makes you look like those damn Repulican'ts who's dinosaur Ideals are ripping this country apart. As for the Article, I applaud the Libyan people as any people wanting and standing up to gain their freedom. That's bravery in the face of tyranny. I hope afterwords it doesn't get messy, but with 45 different militias. it's not going to be a clean transition.
It wasn't a republican who got the USA in Vietnam. It was John F Kennedy who originally sent troops there, but most of the war took place during Lyndon Johnson's (another Democrat) presidency.
The same thing that happen to Egypt will happen to Libya but the Egyptian army itself are having a hard time controlling the extremist who are helping Hamas and smuggling arms to Jihardist in Israel but the Libyan army have collapsed and many Libyans were involved in Afghanistan so whatever happens NATO must share the blame
gliese42 – Well said.
In Egypt, the Salafists have moved in. They want Sharia Law in Egypt; but the young want freedom. A recipe for disaster!
In Yemen, the Ansar Sharia mob have moved in to do the same as the Salafists with the same result.
The Muslim Brotherhood are all waiting in the wings to step into any voids in the M.E. What have we done?
You are willfully ignorant of not only their society but their politics. The muslim brotherhood is a political organization that believes these nations are Islamic nations. Only a fool though would ignore their platform and philosophy (and the fact that Al Queda absolutely hates them).
Regardless, what would have preferred that the US drop bombs on the protesters in Egypt and Tunisia to stop the protest movement? (that would have been as successful as deposing the democratic government of Iran to impose the Shah) This was something the western world had absolutely no control over. The Arab Spring was a revolt created by the people and directed by no one. We provided a little support to the rebels in Libya, and in the long run we probably bought more goodwill than anything else but make no mistake, there is nothing we could have done to stop the Arab spring other than direct military action against civilian protesters. The best position we could take was to support the democratic side. Libya is well educated and only one city in the whole country has generated Islamist terrorists. They aren't the heart and soul of Libya and I bet you that the country survive just fine as long as they control corruption.
Can the doorman at the Ritz Carleton have his uniform back now?
They havent thought that through, chaios. Wait for the next strongman.
These are some pretty entertaining comments. As for Mr. Marlowe I can completely relate to his issues. However, I do think his comments are quite trite. Gadhafi is no better than Hitler, Hussein, Stalin, or Mousilini. This is the same to be said for any of these other dictatorship countries. I personally would really like to have our Military just glass the entire region instead of sending troops in to die for a religious battle that is as old as the Bible. Bottom line, the Rebs did the job without having to send our Military in as in Trashcanistan and Iwrong. We will see with Syria, and Iran what is going to happen next. We know for sure that the UN will get it wrong. This little "correction" was proof that NATO actually knows how to do the job properly and keep hands off other than levelling the playing field to give the Rebs a fighting chance!
Just my opinion.
you forgot about the bush's, clintons and reagans of the world. im tired of living in a country hellbent on running itself and others into the ground by greed and racism just to put more money and power into the hands of people who dont need it. I agree with some of your points as well as others but we helped create a big portion of the problems of the world including the middle east and africa so we need to stand up against ourselves too.
What happens next? Election Problems....conflict of interest.... kingdom against kingdom.....
You have clearly never been to the middle east. Nor are you very informed on the centers of power in the region as a whole. Unlike Egypt or other Arab states, Libya doesn't have a large established Islamist underground, because Qaddafi butchered any dissenters. So it's really not clear who will come to power. As for dictatorship vs. self-rule, it's disturbing to see an American (i assume) implying that our ideal foreign policy should be to suppress nascent struggles for freedom from a ruthless tyrant, for fear that others' ideas of democracy might not coincide with our own. So much for human rights.
Ill tell you what happens to that peice of **** I can put gas in my car now and go to work...
it is time he paid hes dues hes a killer and shows no compasion to any one show him no quarter just like the people on the flight who went down in scoctland he offers no future for any body all dictators fall by their own hand i look at this way his life is nothing the same way he akilled all the people on the flight over scottland their lives must acciunt for something really
ANOTHER NAIL IN INDIA'S COFFIN. Libya was one of the last remnants of the old communist Soviet Union Axis of Evil which also consisted of Iraq, Syria, Egypt and India in Middle East/South Asia. India has siphoned off a lot of money from Libya and others in terms of business/oil for supporting the dictators and propping up their governments. This money should now be returned to the people of these countries.
India is a democracy idiot! I would say the remnants of the Soviet Union are North Korea, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam. Despite being a communist government, China was increasingly independent, there were several times when them and Soviet Union clashed in a civil war. The only communist nation in the Middle East was South Yemen, which no longer exists. Others like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt under Sadat, and Iran before 1979 were pro-West. Take a comparative government course.
agreed. We should all respond after we study our history first. Then we can more thoroughly comment on the articles.
Correct civil war, I meant war.
Simple,
1) terrorists like in Yemen
2) they become like Iraq or Afghanistan
3) they become like egypt and protest their new government
or 4) they become like the US
I highly doubt the US will give up its power for Egypt. So..I'm choosing 1 or 2
After Gaddafi will be chaos, exactly as it was in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places where democratic society trying to do better life. There is no chances for that, the only way to control such countries is to put the Tirane on it. No Tirane, no control, no fear and responsibilities.
"NATO will need to be prepared to step in." In other words, the US needs to be prepared to step in? Wrong, if anyone, let the EU, or the other Arab countries pony up.
Just another nation with towel heads killing towel heads. Oh wait...that's a good thing. Never mind.
ignorant racist comments like that are why other countries hate us so much. grow up
Wrong, nobody. They hate us because most of us worked hard and made this nation prosperous. There will always be those out there who hate the rich despite the fact that the rich get that way through choosing to play it smart and work hard.
What happens aftewr Gaddafi? "VIVE LA VIDA LOCA" "TO LIVE THE LIVE AS CRAISIES"
Perhaps they could be granted "amnesty" to become official citizens of the United States ... we need more voters.
Lets hire these rebels to overthrow the Mexican government, so prosperity could take hold in Mexico and then we wouldn't get so many Illegal immigrants.
What happens next is easy...tribal civil war.
Philip Marlowe, you are a liar. You never flew an F-4 in Vietnam. You said you were dodging Sidewinder missiles. News flash – the Sidewinder is an American air-to-air missile. The Communists didn't use it, and the F-4 pilots were generally dodging ground-to-air missiles anyway. Try watching the History Channel while a little more sober. Perhaps you'll be able to lie a little more convincingly the next time you pose as a vet, Mr. Mall Ninja.
What happens after Gadhafi? Sharia Law? How will that look on the clueless communitiy organizer's resume in 2012?
Good point, Descarado.
"the clueless communitiy organizer's resume in 2012?" What's Sarah Palin got to do with this? You liberals just can't leave her alone, can you? Just because she said she was going to revacuate and betrench, you jump right in and blame her for Libya?
Restore the monarchy
LONG LIVE KING IDRIS THE GREAT
Uh, aren't you guys waving the Mission Accomplished banner a little early? I don't think we're going to force him to surrender with 3.7 conventional bombs per day, and who knows if the rebels will push through or not.
Also, if we keep going to war to get oil, when do we get some f***ing oil out of this?
bon cho
If the word Islam comes anywhere near the word Democracy the dreamed of independence of the human spirit is over for another revolution where shouts of 'Freedom' rent the air only to be stifled by a religion of certainty 'God is Great'.
Mob rule, chaos, brutal civil war, several armed factions fighting for power. Eventually the striongest military group will win and another dictator will emerge.
It's going to be a bloody mess.
A year from now The libyain people will wish they were still under Quadifi, It will be another Somalia.
Nothing.England eurotrash together with fascists communists russia will continue their "pact" with izlamists then izlamists will take over the land and will screw for their ppl even more and worse than quadifi ever did! Then all these jihadlovers will come out on tv and starting to sing "each of us are usama ben ladin" then as barbarians they are they will screw more for
idiots who live there....Then" insallah" spycho will take over your land and eurobia so next time you all will shut your dirty mouth and stop to have pact with devils! Well.then is to late,ofcourse.You lost 80% of your population when you undrestand what have you done! You all deserve this death destiny! Just like uncle Nosradamus said!! Isn't izlam wonderful?You can do all violence and menching allah and screw for every one in this world!
Which "religion" or system can you do this?
Is only with izlam!
Hopefully the new government of Libya will remember that America helped them get into power, and ally themselves with us.
Keep dreaming
"What's neck for Libya?" How bout a Hollywood movie? After all, every soul in America from weding celebrities to child murderer seems to be either posing for some popular magazine or making a movie. So why not a movie about the times and life of a dictator? It would sell big in the US.
What happens after Gadhafi?
Our government will rather silently award a no bid re-building contract to Dick Cheney's newest company and American taxpayers will pay for what was just blown up. The funding is no problem because it makes the wealthy...richer. It's in the name of Democracy.
As usual, the USA will get another country to pick on...Iran, Korea, Russia, dont you foolish americans see the policy of your country ? War, war, war, all protecting the vested interest of the few ( jews and republicans ) who want instability around the world so they can profit from the mess of the masses and happen to control the fate of the USA ?...They claim, Human Rights, they claim Freedon, they claim My Ass...all they want is power, control, money to fatten their bank acounts at the expense of american foolish taxpayers...what is it going to take for you americans to wake up ?
Think, if you have a brain to think, wake up before it is too late...understand you americans are being manipulated big time by your government and you are doing nothing about it...THST IS THE BEAUTY OF POLITICS...make them believe...and we get richer !!!
As usual, mullahs will take over Libya and like Iran, it will become a regime that will come to haunt the West.
Your right, that's all there seems to be in that part of the wold, crazies.
They think the same way about "civilian government" that many Americans do about "ga y marriage:" it isn't decent, and people who do it should be killed with pitchforks. People who allow it to be done are evil heretics and must be tortured. Being ruled by someone who isn't a mullah means you go straight to hell. Same thing the American Taliban is pushing here right now: the president MUST be a super-religious numrod, so he can force us to follow the one true religion.
Wow, Osama Bin Laden and now Gadhaffi? Is there anything our President can't do? I mean Reagan couldn't get him , Bush, too busy not catching Bin Laden. Good thing Obama can make things happen. Hat tip to the President and the U.S.A.
He won't be able to con the American people into a second term.
It's nice to have a president who doesn't hate black people.
Con? Bin Laden is dead, and against Bush's will. Khadafy's hiding in a spider hole. Al-Qaeda is helping us conquer Libya. Looks to me like we should have hired a black guy for the job fifteen years ago.
Great article...start off blaming Bush!
Bush? He had nothing to do with the way the war was fought. He was playing with his GI Joe© action figures while Cheney ran us into the ground. Nobody blames Dubya, because he's a dummy.
Hey TexasDoc-stop prescribing yourself medical marijuana. You really think Obama toppled Gadhafi-and capping it off on vacation aka one hand tied behind his back. Right, armed only with a clipboard and after 12 days of powering on to collect a Nobel prize your superhero freed a nation. And what, the rebesls are running around with guns because they ran out of cheerleaders? Save the tip of the cap for when Commander can conjure up some non-government jobs baby einstein.
Get back to me when Obama dresses up like a soldier and poses in front of a sign saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Bush was a wussy.
What happens after KaDaffy Duck's gone ....... CHAOS ! and one way or another the American taxpayer will get the bill . That aint' right or left wing bee ess , it is just how it is .
Probably no gas from Libya for months, meaning higher prices. That's the only way it would affect us.
U.S. foreign policy will never permit real Democracy in any Middle Eastern nations. See, "The West Is Terrified of Arabic Democracies", Noam Chomsky interviewed by Qantara, June 17, 2011. The gargantuan strategic significance of Middle Eastern oil supplies under the control of a Democratic Arab population who, polls show, overwhelmingly believe that the U.S. is their primary threat, would bring the U.S. and other western powers to their feet, as it were. The west will not permit this, and will do what it has always done.
A small excerpt from the aforementioned interview:
Noam Chomsky: “The Arab-Islamic world has a long history of democracy. It's regularly crushed by western force. In 1953 Iran had a parliamentary system, the US and Britain overthrew it. There was a revolution in Iraq in 1958, we don't know where it would have gone, but it could have been democratic. The US basically organized a coup.
In internal discussions in 1958, which have since been declassified, President Eisenhower spoke about a campaign of hatred against us in the Arab world. Not from the governments, but from the people. The National Security Council's top planning body produced a memorandum - you can pick it up on the web now - in which they explained it. They said that the perception in the Arab world is that the United States blocks democracy and development and supports harsh dictators and we do it to get control over their oil. The memorandum said, this perception is more or less accurate and that's basically what we ought to be doing.”
Qantara: “That means that western democracies prevented the emergence of democracies in the Arab world?”
Noam Chomsky: “I won't run through the details, but yes, it continues that way to the present. There are constant democratic uprisings. They are crushed by the dictators we - mainly the US, Britain, and France - support. So sure, there is no democracy because you crush it all. You could have said the same about Latin America: a long series of dictators, brutal murderers. As long as the US controls the hemisphere, or Europe before it, there is no democracy, because it gets crushed.”
If Khadafy is unable to serve, his place will be taken by his VP, Sarah Palin.
Syria. Pakistan. Iran. All in humanitarian efforts of course... after all, we are led by a nobel peace prize winner.
Wao Phillip, you must have suffered traumatic brain injury. to blame our prez for the troubles in Lybia. the lybian people wanted a dictator to step down after 40 years and u r blaming obama. do the european countries blame him too or is it just you?. sad, sad, that u would hate someone so much as to blame him for everything. why not add hurricane, earthquakes, tsunamis and all