By Fareed Zakaria, CNN
We may be witnessing a very important shift in the character of the Republican Party. For decades now, it has tended to nominate very established names for president. The party nominated Richard Nixon to its presidential ticket five times in 30 years. Over the last 20 years, there has been a Bush or a Dole on the ticket for all but this last presidential election. The Republican presidential nominee is almost always the front-runner, the established candidate, the guy who’s waited his turn: McCain, Dole, Bush Sr., Nixon.
The Democratic Party, by contrast, tends to nominate the outsider: Obama, Clinton, Carter and Kennedy. If history is the guide, this means the Republican Party will nominate Mitt Romney for president. He is the establishment candidate; he has run before; he is the most mainstream figure in the party. But I get the sense that the Republican Party is changing.
Power has shifted to the South and West. The energy of the Republican Party has moved away from the coasts and the big cities. Power has also shifted away from the proverbial smoke-filled rooms to the grassroots. The forces that represented the establishment in the Republican Party - the big corporations and the banks - are much weaker. The forces that are strong today are Christian conservatives, libertarian activists and other more diverse, populist groups. These groups have always existed but before now they were directed by the coastal elites. Not anymore. The tea party represents the dramatic acceleration of these forces. That’s why all the Republican presidential candidates are trying to take up the mantle of the tea party.
These forces are elevating Rick Perry such that we may end up with a situation where all the energy, enthusiasm and numbers are behind him. It would not matter that the Republican establishment was behind Romney because that establishment no longer controls much. What matters is the entrepreneurial game of getting people and money. Perry seems to be doing pretty well at that.
If Rick Perry does emerge as the front-runner, it is not just the story of one guy doing well; it is the story of a very different Republican Party than the one we have been familiar with for the last 30 or 40 years.
It would result in a Republican Party with greater energy, enthusiasm and street cred, but also one that is more extreme, uncompromising and much less concerned with being dismissed by the mainstream media or characterized as irresponsible by people like me. It will make for a more difficult political system because these are the forces that have been very reluctant to compromise. We may find that the debt showdown was just the beginning.
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10-years from now our "Plan" is to be $26-TRILLION in debt.
Explain to me how things will be better then when we still need more jobs, higher SS payments and lower taxes?
We the people are morons.
Ignorance is not an excuse...the past 50-years of BS economics and politics have gotten us to this exact point.
And it is only going to get worse the longer we put off dealing with the problem.
Agreed is right. This has been a long time in coming. A bad decision here, a deferred hard decision there and we get huge debts and dysfunction. Basically, we are getting what was coming to us.
If we get a large number of uncompromising, tiger-blooded conservatives running the show then we are in for some serious trouble.
This quote from Isaac Asimov sums up the Tea Party for me: “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
The wealthiest Americans pay less in taxes than any other industrialized nation in the world. I agree with less taxes, but only if you make less than 250k per year. If you make over 250k per year, you need to start paying your fair share. If the Republicans have their way the wealthiest Americans will get even larger tax breaks leading to more economic burden for the middle class.
Everyone should take the SAVE AMERICA PLEDGE: I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN EVER AGAIN.
@Geoz
Well said, well said...
but remember those super wealthy are "job creators"
/end sarcasm
The folks earning over 250k (about 3% of taxpayers) already pay about 50% of the total income tax collected. The bottom 50% of taxpayers basically pay nothing.
Check your facts.
There is no free lunch. If we are to raise taxes, it should be across the board. EVERYONE should get hit for the additional %. Maybe then the freeloaders would see that they have an interest in shrinking government, instead of just trying to spend more money that someone else has earned!
I agree we are morons! We keep getting frustrated with Washington's grid lock and petty politics. And who keeps putting these people into office? We do!! Why? Because we keep electing officials both Republicans and Democrats that tell us what we want to hear and that has absolutely nothing to do with what we need to hear let alone have anything to do with truth or reality. Even if we did get to hear such truth and candidness most of the electorate would not understand it because of our sorry knowledge of how government works, the basic of economics 101, our own national history, and other information and trends in current events. This knowledge does not require a college degree. You were supposed to get it with you high school diploma (a poor reflection on secondary education). And you wonder why I lost the faith a long time ago! I don't think the American People can handle truth or reality as to what are problems and issues are as well as realistic solutions from an honest intelligent politician! Remember our elected officials are a reflection of us! Scary isn’t it?
we had surplus under Clinton, not that long ago – it's amazing what a little higher taxes and more jobs can do for the economy and our debt...but you all act like the deficit is the first priority now. It's not, we need to get jobs first, stimulate the economy so that we can then tackle the debt problem, not the other way around. Every economist agrees with that assessment (except those working for Koch brothers think tank and go on Fox news all day)
@Seattleite: Speaking of checking facts, let's remember to check all of them....
That bottom 50% you speak of has only about 5% of the total wealth in this country. That's not just income, that's everything they have. (The top 1% has more than a third.) That basically means raising the taxes the bottom 5% hurts them more than everyone else, but gets us almost nothing for it. We'd have to take nearly everything they own on this earth to even make a blip on the radar screen of our debt.
I'm not personally opposed to restoring everyone's tax rates back to the pre-2001 levels, btw. I'm just saying that doing only it for the top 2% should not be a big deal to anyone, but it can make a big difference for everyone.
Every time I see these Republican candidates, I'm reminded of that lovely balled by AC/DC called "Highway to Hell".
Three Conservative Republican Presidents (Reagan-Bush-Bush) added $8.5 trillion to the national debt for no discernable reason. We have absolutely nothing to show for that money today. We borrowed that money, gave it to the wealthy class through tax cuts, and gave the bill to the middle class.
A Conservative (guess who!) president invaded two nations by mistake (first time in world history).
We invaded Iraq to find WMDs but they weren’t there, so every American who died in Iraq died for nothing.
We invaded Afghanistan to find bin Laden, but he wasn’t there. He was sipping latte and watching soccer on his big screen TV in Pakistan. So, the Americans who died in Afghanistan died for nothing.
The self-proclaimed geniuses of economics – economic Conservatives – twiddled their thumbs while the housing bubble grew and burst without saying a word of caution. Our banking geniuses called the loans they were making “Neutron Loans” in private. Like the Neutron Bomb that kills people but does not destroy buildings, these loans destroyed the borrower but the house returned unharmed to the lender, who made another loan just like it on the repossessed house.
We are still trying to extract ourselves from two Conservative wars.
We are trying to find the end of The Great Republican Recession.
And no Conservative will talk about it, much less take responsibility for it.
We aren't morons as much as we are children, wanting what we want, when we want it, no matter what the explanation from the adults in the room. I don't know, maybe the definition of adults who act like kids IS moron.
Hey Rep.
Remember you tax people on their income not their wealth. While income is very disproportionate, Wealth is for more so.
The best thing for the rich is that poor are doing the bidding for them. Somehow republicans have convinced the poor that they should not let tax go higher for rich and now all the people who don'e even make 250K per year are voting republicans because Obama wants to raise taxes for rich.
I would like to know how many jobs have these people created in last 10 years. Is there a number from anyone???
Great post, Rep!
Just one question – why people did not say a thing when Bush gave away $1T without balancing with something like less spending in other areas or closing down Oil company give away. And prescription drug benefit without funding it?
People loved getting money without thinking how much it would cost us later. Today we are paying price.
Jobs went to China and India big companies loved big profits but now we all(except big companies – they are laying
off here in the US which they always love in the name managing the budget) saying where are the jobs?
People love present as long as it is good – do not think of the future – and now that future is here.
Seattlelite, your are completely and utterly wrong. The top 3% don't pay 50% in tax, they actually GET money back. They aren't paying anything, they are MAKING money.
Some people missed my main point:
When a large % of the population does not even "have an oar in the water" they will continue to vote for "bread and circuses" until our final collapse. It HAS happened before. More than once.
We are all in this together. We need to start acting like it.
Jonathan, You clearly no NOTHING about taxation.
As once was said: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt!
BTW I was wondering when a Kool-Aid guzzler would pop up and spout that ridiculous mythological BS.
Really. Is GOOGLE too difficult?
Don't vote Dem. They just wanna spend spend spend.
Seattleite: The top 5% of income earners make 38% of the income in the country and contribute 58% of taxes. The bottom 50% make 12.5% of total income and contribute a total of 2.5% of taxes. The top 1% make >$180K. The bottom 50% make <$33K, which puts them just above poverty. A flat tax code hurts the poor much more than a progressive tax code hurts the rich.
Funny how none of you "fiscal conservatives" cared about the deficit when it was a White Guy racking up a 8 trillion dollar debt to Communist China.
Lower taxes, that is, reduced tax rates for the wealthy, are what created the problem we face today. When tax revenues fell below spending, Bush II started the biggest deficit spending spree in history, even bigger than Reagan's deficit spending spree to cover the loses from his tax cuts.
Restoring tax rates to pre-Bush II– or even better, pre-Reagan– levels will restore our nation. Republicans of late seem to think America can borrow its way out of debt. Witness the seven hikes in the debt ceiling on Bush II's watch, and our mortgaging to China.
And remember that Americans have the lowest tax burden of any OECD nation, at 26.9%, regardless of what the Tea Partiers and talk radio tell you. Among the larger economies, only India, at 20%, is lower. (source: NationMaster/Taxation/Tax Burden)
Our gasoline tax is also the lowest in the OECD, untouched since 1993, and worth about one-third less than it was back then. (source: The Economist, May 3rd, 2010)
Seattleite: Why don't YOU do some fact-checking. The bottom 50% do pay taxes–Social Security, Medicare, sales, etc.–and in many instances these amount to a greater percentage of their income than the tax rates of rich. See Warren Buffet's comments about how he pays lower taxes than his employees for one publicly available datapoint on this. In California, the state sales tax is ~8%, SS is 12.4% (counting both employee and employer and not considering the temporary reduction in the rate currently in place), and Medicare is around 3%, so even w/o sales taxes, low-income earners are paying 15.4%, which is HIGHER than the capital gains tax rate. So, they are indeed paying their fair share even w/o paying any income tax, unless you consider paying the same rate as rich people below their fair share.
@Bdub Increase/Decrease in National Debt as a percentage of the GDP, organized by the last 16 Presidential terms:
Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democrat) -24.40%
Harry Truman (Democrat) -21.70%
Dwight Eisenhower (Republican) -11.00%
Dwight Eisenhower (Republican) -5.20%
John F. Kennedy (Democrat) -8.30%
Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat) -8.30%
Richard Nixon (Republican) -3.00%
Gerald Ford (Republican) 0.20%
Jimmy Carter (Democrat) -3.30%
Ronald Reagan (Republican) 11.30%
Ronald Reagan (Republican) 9.30%
George H. W. Bush (Republican) 15.00%
Bill Clinton (Democrat) -0.70%
Bill Clinton (Democrat) -9.00%
George W. Bush (Republican) 7.10%
George W. Bush (Republican) 20.00%
End results:
Democrats: Deficit reduced by 75.7%
Republicans: Deficit increased by 43.7%
(Source: Congressional Budget Office)
I hereby pledge that I know Rob Washburn and I'm surprised he was smart enought to spell his own name. If Ron Paul gets nominated he's got my vote. Only peron in EITHER party that has real ideas. Everyone else is just pandering to a crowd. Obama included.
Yes, We The People are idiots for being so brain-dead for not being able to remember that 11 ago before the Bush tax cuts took effect our national balance sheet was in order. Not only did Bush screw the balance sheets with the tax cut but then he started 2 unfunded wars. End those wars, roll back the tax cuts, and we'll be back on track. But the GOP/Tea Party, who are nothing more than shills for Big Business and the filthy rich, aren't going to let this happen. They held unemployment hostage to the continuation of these tax handouts, saying they were necessary for job creation and yesterday Bank of America announced 30,000+ layoffs. How surprising.
'Seattleite- The folks earning over 250k (about 3% of taxpayers) already pay about 50% of the total income tax collected. The bottom 50% of taxpayers basically pay nothing. Check your facts. There is no free lunch. If we are to raise taxes, it should be across the board. EVERYONE should get hit for the additional %'
Ah another one that says tax the poor to save the rich.
Debt is not the Big Problem. Unemployment and lack of infrastructure capacity for future economic growth are biggest concerns. We can borrow money to improve infrastructure and increase employment to people who will spend that money to stimulate the economy. A growing economy creates all of the revenue we will need to balance the budget and pay off our debt. Austerity for austerity's sake will only hurt us in the short and long term.
MODEM , the top 5% earners in America pay 59% percent of all taxes and the top 10% pay 65% of all taxes , the bottom 50% of earners pay ZERO tax.
Stop hating on the " rich" as they pay most of the taxes already.
@Seatleite You are completely wrong and using Mickey Mouse math to support your argument. The problem with taxes is everyone isn't paying their fair share. By your logic if a man makes $100 and pays $10 in taxes then the other guy who make $10,000 should only pay $10 in taxes too instead of the $1000 he should owe. There should be no tax law only a flat tax...it doesn't matter what pick say 40% of your what you make. No deductions no loopholes no BS. Everyone pays the same percentage of what they take home. It balances the economy because everyones salary or wage compares equally to each other. If I make 60 cents on the dollar so does everyone else so if I make more than you it is still going to be proportionaly more than you hence you still get to be richer for by having a good job and capitalism is still healthy and alive probably a hell of a lot more today. But greed doesn't like that idea and most middle class repubilicans are too stupid to check their facts outside of talk radio.
Come on, they think we're buting this. GIVE ME A BREAK. The american people are not buying this.
The wars were for the wealthy not for anything else. All the security added protects nothing but makes the security contrators billions. The current conflicts are over feeding oil that will make the wealthy even more money and the top Republican thinks that prayer is the way to save the country. Not one conflict except the revenge in Afghanistan was about anything but money and the debt that America owes with interest is owed to the wealthy would want legislation so they pay less tax on this incoming wealth. Why would a wealthy family want the debt paid down through higher taxes and clawing back all these "wars for cash" ? The money is owed to them anyways so a bankrupt America is a hostage cash cow to them.
@Mk2: "the bottom 50% of earners pay ZERO tax."
Sorry, but this is not true. In 2010 45% of filers paid no *income* tax, and half-a-million of those reported incomes of at least $100K. Try doing some research instead of just repeating what you hear.
Yes this has been a long time coming, at least 30 years, BUT these last 3 years have exponentially exacerbated the situation to the breaking point. We have to turn around fast before we go over the cliff.
We have to look at history Germany was in bad economic times when they all fell for Hitler. Perry is a Hitler style person. And the tea party is his party or will be. here is a line from Hitler "We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers salaries and take away their right to strike." Adolf Hitler, May 2, 1933
Does this have a ring to it or what. we are in trouble.
we sure are we keep trusting the gop, how do you think we got into this debt. a war we didnt need, sold to us on a lie. and tax cuts that didnt work period. and a medicare drug program paid for by the D work deficits. trust them once call it a mistake , trust them twice and shame on you not them
@Seattleite – I love the "they already pay 50% of the taxes" obfuscation ... they make 95% of the INCOME!! So essentially, a wealthy man like Warren Buffet gets to take home 90 cents of every dollar he earns, while those of us who aren't wealthy are only allowed to take home 65-75 cents on the dollar. Hmmm...yeah, that's fair.
Bob, think you missed and omitted a few facts there slick
"A very different republican party"? The author must be joking...Rick Perry is as establishment as they come, and lets be serious we all know by now that there's no real distinct difference between the two parties anymore. Elect Rick Perry so he can force us all to take vaccines against our will....NOT!
Its funny to listen to you all demonstrate your new found skills and concern with government economics... The only reason you even think you care is because you keep hearing it on the news and want to repeat the combative rhetoric of your favorite right wing super hero. What a joke! If you really care so much, where were you when we were getting here? None of this matters, the gov being in debt is not gonna change your day either way. Now, if you have a pile of your own debt... who's fault is that??? YOURS!!! Stop blaming the president, stop acting like a sheep and following these ridiculous right wing career politicians and get an original thought!!!
Perry is terribly weak on illegal immigration. His policies encourage more people to come here illegally. We need someone stronger on the issue, like Romney or Bachmann.
suck it liberals!!!
The only way to reduce the deficit is to cut the size of govermemnt, and give incentives to the companies in the public sector to keep jobs in the US. It's not rocket science. It is however, not the solution to continue to throw billions of dollars out to stimulate the economy. THE GOVERNMENT CAN"T STIMULATE THE ECONOMY. The government has their hand in everyones business, choking out the private sector with their regulations.
Well, conservatives since Reagan have done a great job brainwashing people into thinking government is all bad and demonized government programs and services. Now, no one wants to pay taxes. In our state, TX, we have layed off teachers but we are still giving huge tax breaks to the gas companies. I would rather pay higher taxes now so when I am old and sick I retain decent Medicare and SS benefits. Had we kept banking regulations in place, I venture to say we would not have had such a meltdown but again, the government is bad crowd rules the day.
Let's amend Rob Washburn's SAVE AMERICA PLEDGE Don't vote for any Democrats OR Repblicans this election. They have ruined the economy the whole lot of them. Given our collective credit rating a black eye, and fought a war with no end. So let's shake it up, for them ALL out and let the alternative "also rans" take control!! It's time to fix the mess and the current 2 parties are more concerned with their power than the country. So we the People need to remind them most harshly the WE run the country. Just a thought
I will take the save America pledge. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER REPUBLICAN.
I think Perry looks a lot like "j. Fred Mugs" or "Cheeta" the Chimp!
and michelle looks like a klingon. so what
AND WHAT OF OBONGO THE CLOWN?
Michelle Bachman does look like a chimp you are right I never thought of that!
But calling oingo boingo clowns is just uncalled for. Deadmans party was the jam!
If you don't believe me, Google "J. Fred Muggs" and check out the photo of him with Ronnie Ray-Gun. I think we're on to something here! I bet Perry could use that photo to make some REAL political "Hay". I DON'T THINK ANYONE COULD TELL THE DIFFERENCE!
Rick Perry was born on March 14, 1950. J. Fred was born on March 04, 1952,,,,Rick's first name has 4 letters....J. Fred's second name has 4 letters.......Are you starting to see a pattern here?......Hmmmmmm. Could it be...I know it's beyond believe.......but.....could it be....J. Fred and Rick......ARE ONE AND THE SAME!
Actually, when Rick Perry goes for his cowboy look, he resembles the cowboy on the Village People.
Just think, though – if Perry is elected Josh Brolin has a shot at playing the leading role for a second time in a "failed joke of a cowboy-boot wearing President" biopic!
Hey, at least we have good looking chicks. All the Dem. gals are dogs!
This guy is dumber than a door knob and couldnt pass a Jr college entrance exam. And there are people so lost and uncultivated that they would actually make this death penalty addict president. We need to start deporting white people.
we need to put black people back in their cages or in the fileds where they benefit society. who lets wild animas roam the streets.
prohuman, it is a common misunderstanding that Perry has ANYTHING to do with Texas executions. He doesn't. He doesn't even have legal authority to commute a sentence unless he's first given permission by a commission. All he can do is delay one 30 days one time. Your issue should be with the people of Texas.
I a white guy! You may be right!!
Your comment is a perfect example of racism on the part of non-whites.
For the majority of caucasians, the thinking is that there is a difference between black people and those for whom whites still use the "n" word behnd closed doors (which says something about the value of the first amendment).
The issue mainly has to do with the assumption of personal responsibility. Follow the advice of Bill Cosby by cleaning up your collective cultural act, and you will see the "n" word fade into distant memory. Expect others to owe you something they don't owe you while you refuse to contribute to the betterment of society and your in for a long hard life.
If he is dumber than a doorknob and that is twice as intelligent as your false messiah koolaid provider and four times smarter than you what does that say about your genetic line?
prohuman:Your racist rant makes you appear to be subhuman.
To those who responded to prohuman: A bit touchy, aren't you? Talk about over reacting. Why so upset, hmmm?
As a Hispanic woman married to an Anglo, Prohuman, I'm offended by your comment about deporting white people. As for you, Idtjangle, you're the reason so many say that the tea party is racist. Hiding under an alias allows you to spew your bigotry out though, so go for it. Pathetic. Oh, wait! I'm Hispanic. Racists unite! Time to get out the racial slurs and insults. 4..3..2..
You dumba$$... I'm white!... Idiot. You fu##ing racists kill me. You know why I'm not like you, because I can see morons come in all colors. I cant believe these people still exist. You are the exact stereotype whose time has to be done. I cant believe with all the beautiful culture in the world you underdeveloped fools still exist. Your the monkey backwards chumps.
At least he knows that there is a lot more to fixing the economy than making a bunch of speaches. The problem with our country is the the Falsehood that many people believe that if you go to a liberal arts college and get a degree there that you are smarter than the average person which is simply not true. You may have a college education and a piece of paper that says you passed or maybe you can give a great speach but it certainly does not make you smarter. Knowing Right from Wrong does not take a college education. Giving great speaches might.
It is a different moral priority; some people have a hard time with abortions at the whim and fancy of the mother, while others firmly believe that it is better to house a person at the expense of taxpayers for several years instead of executing them. Yes, some mistakes may be made in the death penalty, but it takes a moron to believe any human system will work perfectly. For example, you may abort the next Albert Einstein, but libs would consider that a flaw that has to be accepted....
We gave the community organizer a chance at hope and change; lets elect a man who has been a three term Governor of the 2nd largest state in the US in terms of population (2008 estimates), and see what he can achieve...
Hey Seattleite, it's easy to make numbers work for you, isn't it?
Yes, you're right, those who earn over $250,000 pay almost 50% of the income tax in the United States, which sounds terribly unfair.
They also control about 80% of the wealth, which you conveniently forgot to mention. That seems even less fair to me...
Why is the fact they control 80% unfair. Dam socialist is what you are. Because someone is smarter, willing to take more risks and then reap the reward, then you guys want to berate them. Go somewhere else if you think everythings unfair here. Oh thats right: its the same in all 196 countries. The wealthy control most of the wealth.
Actually genius, no one thinks its unfair that they have 80% of the wealth. But if they have 80% of the wealth, they SHOULD be paying 80% of the taxes, not 50. That's what's unfair. Your uneducated "socialist" accusations are nothing more than drivel.
Why isn't that fair Chris? They earned it! Just like you earn your wages from what ever it is you do.
Hey Chris,
The concept that the wealth that someone else has has earned should be "re-distributed" is THE fundamental principal of Socialism.
I am a Capitalist, and proud of it. I have worked hard for what I have, and I think I have the right to do what I wish with my assets.
Realist, you have not been paying attention. It is called an INCOME tax for a reason. You should wait to graduate Junior High before you call others "uneducated".
Seattleite, income BECOMES wealth. It is also monumentally easier for the rich to gain wealth than it is for the middle and lower classes. Their effective tax rates are also lower because of this reason (capital gains). And if you try to tell me that the privileged top 3% work harder than the rest of us (those of us with jobs anyway), I will laugh in your face. They make money off the hard work of those under them. The only "work" the super-wealthy actually do is lobby politicians to make it even easier for them to screw over everyone else in order to increase their bottom line.
Socialism is a cute buzz word you people like to throw around, but it is very rarely accurately used. Funny how you think paying taxes is akin to socialism. You need to grow up and realize that just because you have more money doesn't mean you are special. You should be paying the same percentage of your income as everyone else. Someone else mentioned Warren Buffett's quote earlier, and I think that is a prime example of the corruption in the tax system that is taking place these days. The upper class has already "re-distributed" all the wealth to themselves - not through hard work but through manipulation of the very methods we use to distribute wealth in the first place. And all we ask is that you pay the same taxes on that money that the rest of us do. Sorry if that seems unfair to you.
" Because someone is smarter, willing to take more risks and then reap the reward, then you guys want to berate them. Go somewhere else if you think everythings unfair here. Oh thats right: its the same in all 196 countries. "
Smarter? Maybe... However, if it wasn't for all of his employees who actually do all the work, he would have nothing. Plus, if America were to restore taxes back to pre-2001, it would barely affect the top 5%. Also, in Northern Europe (you know, those countries that actually produce something) the wealth gap is much smaller and the standard of living is much higher. Some Americans are so blind...
"I am a Capitalist, and proud of it. I have worked hard for what I have, and I think I have the right to do what I wish with my assets."
You really value your freedoms don't you? The freedom to walk in your gun-infested crime-ridden streets, the freedom to slave away for those huge corporations, the freedom to have the entire course of your life dictated by greedy fat cats on Wall St. Wake up! There is more freedom in Scandinavian socialism than there is in American Capitalism.
Not quite true. According to an analysis of the Bush tax cuts by the treasury department, the top 1% of earners in the US bring in 30% of net wealth but contribute about 33% to taxes. Many people see the Bush tax cuts as a give away to the wealthiest Americans, but the fact of the matter is that although they reduced over all tax revenue it shifted the burden of taxation more onto wealthy tax payers, albeit by a very small percentage. Also, I completely agree that everyone should get a tax increase if taxes go up, but they don't necessarily have to be large. I don't care if you make less than 25k a year, you can still contribute 5 dollars in federal income tax as a way of being a contributing American citizen. Also, to the person who replied about being in the control of "fat cat, greedy corporations etc. etc.", small businesses are one of the main employers in this country: as in people who work for themselves.
MrAfroman says...
"if it wasn't for all of his employees who actually do all the work, he would have nothing"
and
"the freedom to slave away for those huge corporations, the freedom to have the entire course of your life dictated by greedy fat cats on Wall St. Wake up! There is more freedom in Scandinavian socialism than there is in American Capitalism."
MrAfroman, so what is your point? Are you saying that starting a business is a bad thing? Growing a business into a billion dollar corporation that employs thousands of people allowing them to provide for their families if bad? Working for a living is a bad thing? What about these people living the Scandinavian socialism dream? Do any of them work for a living? If not, then who's paying the taxes to support all their socialist splendor? BTW, how is the economy of these wonderful scandinavian utopias doing these days?
The top 400 have more wealth than the bottom 50%. The top 1% has more wealth than the bottom 90%. And you wonder why the Republicans pursue the "best interests" of the Rich? If you're in the bottom 99%...I wouldn't be voting for the people who work for the top 1%...would you?
Don't worry Chris, they're JOB CREATORS!!
What is unfair about them owning 80% of the wealth?
They didn't get to own 80% of the wealth because they worked harder. That kind of income spread only comes from controlling laws and taxes in their own favor... also known as cheating.
Fareed goes to Bilderberg just like Rick Perry. Fareed knows that the Republican establishment at Bilderberg and Bohemian Grove support Perry.
Yep.....pardner....he's their kinda a man....kinda like the "Marlboro Man"! Ride'in TALL in the saddle....given the rest of us "cancer"!
Fareed might wish to do more research. Since when is Kennedy an "outsider?" Jack Kennedy came from a rich, powerful and politically connected family that had been in politics for over a generation when Jack was nominated in 1960. Nixon was much more of an outsider.
Nixon was the two-term Vice President of the United States under Eisenhower. Before that he was a US Congressman and then a Senator. He left that job to become VP in 1952. That hardly makes him an outsider. True enough, JFK was from a fabled powerhouse family, but it's just silly to call Nixon an outsider.
An outsider doesn't help that much. What counts is the ability to shepherd a herd. We see a rise of "heard-mentality" in the South and the Mid-West, contrary to elitist beliefs of big cities folks.
What a bunch of lefty morons on these CNN posts, you're so damn smart we get it..
How many more yrs will you blame Bush when its Obama whose spending has gone off the reservation.
You try to criminalize and demagogue anyone against his policies and now it's backfiring.
How many more referendum elections do you need to illustrate that the vast majority of Americans want nothing to do with collectivism and redistribution?
At least primary this in over his head loser with Hillary she would have done a better job. This guy is worse than dinkins was in the '90s.... Well soon it will be morning again and if you don't like it get the he'll ot go live in Canada.
Oh let's give Obama more money for jobs "stimulus" yeah right, its like llending my drunk brother in law the rent money 5 times, and again hes back b/c he needs a fix. NOBAMA 2012
Damn morons it's the spending, you have checkbooks right, you know how they work?
You want me to hire people in my small company for a payroll tax cut? No way how about getting the economy out of the crapper so I have more customers then I will need to hire. Maybe cut the top corporate tax rates son they are no longer the highest on the planet.
Oh and Krugman is VERMEN. Thanks NY 9, next stop Pennsylvania Ave.
So...a corporate tax cut would save the world, but a payroll tax cut would be completely ineffective. Thank you for providing yet one more example of conservative economic doublespeak. You are correct that generating economic demand is the way, but the corporate tax rate has NOTHING to do with that. Lowering corporate taxes just gives them more money, but no incentive to hire (CEO bonuses, anyone?); a payroll tax cut at least makes them hire someone to get that extra money.
As to your first question, I will continue to blame Bush as long as he is to blame for all the bad decisions he made. Invading Iraq under false pretenses, which also contributed to a lack of success in Afghanistan, all the while boosting our debt by trillions: BUSH. The lasse-faire economic policies that led to the banking crisis and current recession: BUSH. You don't get to blame Obama for those problems just because he's stuck dealing with the consequences.
Yo moron, if you dont want to pay for your GOD damn small business for payroll tax cuts thats fine.....................You are yearning for new customer right???? With the bloody republicans f@#$ing it up with manufacturing goods industry in US over the years, US economy is 70% service oriented.....................
Until the middle/low income level people have more money to spend on your damn products, restaurants, vacations etc., that 70& GDP aint going anywhere???????? Got that sh@# head????
You want tax breaks for rich huh? how about you check the following link to see the % contribution of Bush tax cuts for the US GDP????? Go check the link and check for the years 2001 – 2010.................
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1811
Take your sh$% head out of your a@#
You own a business? No wonder this economy can't produce. Had you done your research, you'd know that on paper, yes, corporations 'supposedly' pay the highest tax rates on the planet. However, and this is a big however, at the end of the day, overseas tax shelters and high ranking corporate attorneys who can easily find all US tax code loopholes, dwindle that big corporate tax rate to less than 4% annually for the top 25 US companies. Pretty pathetic when I'm paying 20% after all of my deductions, and I don't make billions of dollars.
So again, do your math before you spout off at the mouth. Makes you look like you couldn't possibly run a business at all.
In a few words ......... You have it backwards
We will blame for as long as it takes to pull out of this debacle. For some reason, Rethugs think that the Bush administrations' nightmare that we live in stopped when Obama took office. Their poor judgement and arrogance put something on this nation (and a number of others as a matter of fact) that will take years to recover from. You think we're "playing the Bush card". You know how you all like to say we are playing some card or another. IT IS STILL AFFECTING US LUNTZ HEADS. And will for some time. Get it??!!!
Bush will be blamed for as long as the effects of his disastrous presidency linger in our nation. Some of those effects will never be healed, so he will rightfully be blamed indefinitely. If a drunk driver crashed into my car and caused me to be paralyzed, will time remove the blame? Of course not. The same is true of presidential leadership. The Bush presidency paralyed America. Obama is the doctor trying to get us to walk again, with unsatisfactory results at least to this point.
You can reduce the corporate tax rate to 0%, but companies will still go to wherever the skilled cheap labour is...China, India, Brazil, and any developing nation.
Considering that I still hear Republicans blame Jimmy Carter for things that happened 30+ years ago and Bill Clinton for things that happened 10+ years ago, I don't think blaming Bush for a current situation that he was, in fact, significantly responsible for is unreasonable.
But then again, Republicans scream and yell whenever they're out of power and when they're in power, they deflect all responsibility. It's the Republican way.
You clearly don't understand what a free market isbecause if you did you would not be saying George Bush was a laize-fairre president. We had subsidies, no bid government contracts, government expansion of Medicare, a minimum wage increase. And the banks, well everyone contributed to that. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were using taxpayer money to back loans they knew were shaky which induced more speculation because the government appearded to be backing everything. When people wanted to look into them, the Democrats were the ones blocking the investigations. Also if these Wall Street bankers are so free market, why did they give Obama way more money than the Republicans. Heck, if they really wanted a real free market Ron Paul or some Libertarian would be the president, not a Democrat or Republican
Since the 60's.....the last 40 or 50 years there's only been 3 Democratic President's two of which had served 1 term...the REST WERE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS. Hey public idiots....check your history......seems to me the Republican's have done more damage then the 3 sprinkled in do the real RECOVERY work. Dummies.
Scary-Fairy-Perry is a dangerous man. Beware. Governor Good-Hair only cares about his ego, $ and fame. Spare us another President that is a flip-flopping, pandering fraud that plays to the audience!!! GO AWAY PERRY and run for President of Afghanistan, why don't you???
Perry = Obstructionism, Extremism, Uncompromising, and daw gone it....NOBODY likes HIM
Uncompromising?! Are you crazy?? He's totally wiilling to compromise his soul to benefit any corporation willing to drop a dime in his piggy bank!
Because CNN says so? this such a joke like perry. Perry couldnt hold Ron Pauls Jock!
PERRY-BACHMANN....ticket to promise land...and that's how's gonna be..mark my words!!!
I'd love to see that loser combination go against Obama.
Now that would be good news for both parties. A real win-win.
Perish the thought. And I'm a conservative Independent . . .
The Tea Party is a scam being secretly controlled by the Koch brothers and other billionaires. Why would a grass-roots movement be attempting to push almost 30 bills through Congress which reverse most of the environmental protection bills that have been passed in the past 30 years? So big businesses can damage the environment and the public has no recourse. And why would they take the Grey Wolf off the endangered species list so they can now all be slaughtered, the first time in US history that Congress has bypassed the Department of Interior to do this? To please some wealthy ranchers. And every billl that they support helps only the wealthy! Wake up America, we are being overtaken by a small group of wealthy fascists!
Exactly! It is very disappointing that Fareed is trying to represent The Tea Party as a 'Grassroots Movement'. Nothing could be farther from the truth. They were a well funded, well organized machine 2 months after Obama was inaugurated. Dick Armey (remember him?) and his Freedom Works Con Men were running the show with buses and flyers and press coverage for the Koch's to all the Town Hall meetings to combat Health Care Reform. No grassroots movement has the exact same talking points and legislative agenda across all 50 states that quick. This is a pay for play political machinery masking as a grass-roots movement. Deregulation and Privatization targeted towards those who will benefit most at everyone else's expense who don't have enough money or power to fight back.
Really? Never ceases to amaze me that there are so many of you that refuse to understand, or even want to understand, just exactly what the Tea Party is. Just the fact that you think there is any one person or group controlling it tells me you know absolutely nothing whatsoever about it. That's ok. Neither does the media, so you've got plenty of company.
STOP THE HORSE CRAP CNN! I AM NEVER COMING HERE FOR MY NEWS AGAIN!
Boo Brown:Then why are you here now?...You'll be back.
Zakaria says "the big corporations and the banks – are much weaker" in Republican Party politics. Is he that out of touch? The Republican Party is run by the Tea Party, which is run by the Koch brothers, the multibillionaires who want to control the country. If Zakaria truly thinks the Tea Party is a "grass roots" movement, he's wrong. It's a fully funded movement by the rich, who have conned a lot of middle-class voters into thinking they have their best interests at heart. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Big money is out for big money, plain and simple.
Tea Party isn't run by anyone or any party. You just don't get it (most of you here don't) and that scares the crap out of you all, doesn't it. When you don't understand something, attack it. Maybe someday you will understand how and why Tea Party exists, and all it is is a mish mash of people all across the country, of all political parties, color and ethnicities, with varying ideas, rarely in agreement, who are just plain fed up with politics as usual and refuse to lay down and take the nonsense Washington keeps doling out. Of course, you can keep believing in your conspiracy theories if you want, and plaster your ideas on boards like this, and continue to amuse those of us who know better.
You lefto wacko's keep pretending we dont have serious issues to deal with. This kind of lifestyle is all you know. The reality is coming and you don't have the intelligence to stop it or know why it happened. Good luck to you.
"...if you're saying I can be bought for just $5,000, then I am offended"
- Rick Perry
It takes at LEAST $6000.
We are at a crossroads. When a Democrat enters a room, s/he defines compromise as both parties getting some of what they want, and both giving a little of what they have. But that doesn't work, because what the Democrat is really doing is incrementally getting everything s/he wants. It's this incrementalism that has moved the progressive/communist movement throughout the last hundred years. So when we reach a true decision point, a point where more incrementalism will only make things worse, when it's time for a choice between two opposites, you have to pick sides. That's where we are now. I identify with the Tea Party. We choose a balanced budget. We choose no new debt. We choose no new deficit spending. We don't care how much you scream about it. We can't afford it. Here's the line. This far, and no farther. That's it. Debate over. End of discussion. In 2012, you will choose between two polar opposites between which there can be no more compromise: either you are big government, or you are limited government. I will never compromise with you, because all you want to do is take away my liberty so your government can do things for me that I used to do for myself. In 2012, we will retain control over the House, and regain control in the Senate and the White House. The louder you scream, the more the certain the outcome becomes. We win because you sent a man to be president who is the least qualified man in any room he enters. And every time he opens his mouth, every teleprompter line he reads further alienates independents and even Dems. Landslide. 2012. Mark my words. And in 100 days, with our supermajority in the Senate and our House and White House, we will roll back in 100 days what it took you guys 100 years to screw up. We don't need to compromise. There is no compromise with progressives and communists. They can only be defeated. That's where we are. No compromise. Only total victory. The Republic is worth this fight, and it's a fight I plan to win. Let's see what you have, Dems. Race card? Nope, you'll lose independents. Gender card? That won't work either. You're out of bullets and out of ideas. More spending? Yeah, right. How about another side of downgrade with that. How about printing more money? Nope. That won't work either. Another stimulus, anyone? Well, the first stimulus created zero jobs, and this one's half as much, so half of zero jobs is still zero jobs. Defeated. You libs get to sit down and shut up for the next eight years, and you'll be able to hear me shout from space. The only hope the nation has is that the occupant of the White House changes, and Perry's coattails are looking mighty long from where I sit.
Doggone it Josh, you had me nodding my head in agreement until the last line! Afraid I don't see Perry as the answer. . . . .he only says what he thinks people want to hear right now, and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. Cracks me up that CNN thinks he's the rising star. The comments over at F O X definitely indicate otherwise.
Fox dislikes him because he's wildly uncontrollable. ....let me rephrase that... a dangerously unstable and easily distracted idiot. They like their idiots tame and willing, not headstrong and unstable.
Shouting from space, indeed. How do you stand all those echos bouncing around inside your head?
Oh my God...
There is a sucker born every minute.
Remember how good GWB sounded next to Al Gore?
Then what happened?
Rick Perry is just another establishment pick. The Tea Party started out as grass roots, but when they crawled into the filthy bed of the Republicans, they too, became infected.
It was a huge mistake for the Tea Party to get into bed with Republicans. The Tea Party has now become window dressing for yet another "Change" message. Yep...seems the Republican party has now changed....LOL!
Nothing has changed. Wake up!
As a general rule of thumb...when the establishment, ie the media, like Fox, CNN, supports a candidate, then you can be sure that candidate is supported by the entrenched money powers that not only run everything, but have also ruined everything.
This whole...Democrat VS Republican nonsense...is a very old and tired trick, that keep the public going in circles, and fighting one another to pick one of the establishment's choices.
And to be sure, the establishment, does not care whether ts a Democrat or a Republican who gets into office, so long as its not a Ron Paul, or Jessee Ventura, or someone else they do not endorse.
When you continue to bicker over this stupid Dem VS Rep childish crap, you are playing wight into their hands, and serve to perpetuate the deterioration of this country.
Best bet, flush BOTH parties down the toilet, as they are the ones who are beholden to special interest, and have ruined this country.
And to some of the posters far above....
I don't take responsibility for the mess we are in. Nor should the American public.
If the American public is guilty of anything, its lazyness. All the information is out there, you just have to work at it to find it. We are all busy, we have little time for this..I know. But to expect to have it handed to you from Fox or CNN who are tools of the money interests....well, is just laughable.
Who created this lifestyle for us? The job, the mortgage, the student loans, the debt, the debt, the debt? Who?
Is it your fault you tried to be decent people, get educated, work for a living and pay your bills? Is it your fault that leaves you with zero time to research news on a daily basis?
Don't take the fall for this BS. The money powers have worked around the clock for decades in total concealment, to undermine you and this country.
The only recent president that I take a second look at and scratch my head over is Bill Clinton.
He was smart enough to double cross the double crossers with his balanced budget and Information Super Highway to see to it that you had access to information, during a coming time when all reliable information would be censored.
Don't know about Clinton....
You are a freak, Fareed. We're done with you liberal humanists. Welcome to the way it's going to be for a while, bud. You can always move to France... Oh wait... they're moving away from you guys too. Hah!
Having such disdain for the writer, I wonder why you read his work. Perhaps just to be disagreeable and disrespecting?
"Youareatool" shows with his comment why so many people are turned off by the Tea Party. People are tired of hate (and it is hate we are seeing here) and tired of the rage we see. Nothing good will come from it in the end. A republic only works when we respect our neighbors and agree to disagree.
Liberal humanist....what a terrible thing to call someone.
On the opposite end you have....Conservative dehumanist?
...And with that you get the Bush Era TSA reaching their hands down the pants of your daughters and wives. You get your phone tapped, Gulf War Syndrome, Collateral Damage....Shredded Bill of Rights...No regard for human life.
Its awful what happened to this country under the Bush Administration. The damage is lasting.
Both parties suck.
My attack on conservatives should in no way be mistaken as any sort of endorsement for the party who now holds the White House and is outspending even Bush. And when...exactly, was Obama gonna put the troops out of that needless war in Iraq? 2010 wasn't it?
I think he may be right. The only problem is the method they will use to achieve the goals they profess will be extremely painful to the large majority of Americans that will pay the price. The good old republicans that earn the top 5% of income will ride it out just fine. Well it might be a bit painful if they have to give up one of their nice cars or airplanes.
Where is my comment,not publishl
The Repbulican Party (Tea Party) and Rick Perry are grassroots? Man, I thought you were a LOT smarter than that. Disappointed. They're as grassroots as large corporations like Koch Industries who fund 87% of the Tea Party expenditures. Sorry to see you perpetuate this myth.
FU2
How is it that so many Americans are following this arch-conservative thinking? It seems to me the kind of thinking of a Tea Partier is that of someone who embraces an Ayn Rand philosophy of minimal, really almost no government whatsoever, apart from the police and military and courts. A person who believes in that sort of society has to be delusional. It is like believing in the reversal of all human progress of the past 500 years. They would have millions of old folk living in misery; children dying in the streets; piles of toxic waste from un-regulated, or at least under-regulated industries; gangs of dispossessed youth... in other words, the country would look like something out of Mad Max.
This is VERY SIMPLE. The Democratic Party made a HUGE MISTAKE when they voted Obama into office. His agenda is so flaming left liberal, it is spinning our country into oblivion. IF the Democratic Party had had the brains to vote someone into office who would have been MODERATELY CENTERED in his/her approach to making policy, our country would be in a better place, and the Republicans would NOT be about to smoke you at the voting booths in 2012.
BUT, since you voted the most dynamically LIBERAL president our country has ever seen into office, you WILL see an about face landslide to get OB out of office. It really doesn't matter who is on the other side of the ticket, EVERYONE in America will know he or she will be MUCH less flaming liberal than OB.
I'm thinking ... hindsight is 20/20 ... HILLARY would have been a better PRESIDENT, and we would not be having this conversation right now.
Rick Perry ?? lol Blind people
AW, ,
it matters little what the president's own personal politics are.
America is a Corporatist State. Any American president stepping up to take hold of the reins of power, no matter what his personal politic are hard left, hard right, or center, will in fact govern to a very large degree as a corporatist president. Some may lean left, some may lean right, but bottom line, there will be no change from the massive entanglement industry has with government, and all the enevitable corruption and influence peddling that follows in that type of inherently corrupt system.
Who runs the FDA? The government or the drug companies? Its gets very hard to tell.
The logic is that industry knows what industry needs best. So industry has influence over the laws that govern industry. Banks over financial regulations, ect. And that makes good sense...but, industry surely can be counted on to make sure those laws benefit themselves. And when resistance is encountered, bribery, blackmail, and payoffs make it happen.
And industry also likes to send in one of its own people to fill a congressional or senate seat, run the Treasury, or FDA, its kinda like the old communist infiltration theories that the John Birch Society and some think tanks used to insist upon.
But it wasn't the communists.
Corporatism is also know as soft fascism.
There is very little difference between Socialism and Fascism. The only difference between these two systems is who controls the means of production. Under Socialism, gov't owns industry, under Fascism, Industry owns government.
These are not at the polar opposites of the political spectrum, but rather sit side by side in a political loop, and only differ by a shade of gray. .
Its pointless to finger point and call each other Socialist or Fascist. America is Corporatist.
Fred,
I was with you until you said " The forces that represented the establishment in the Republican Party – the big corporations and the banks – are much weaker. " Are you serious? Rick Perry, Michelle Bachman, and all the other "grass roots" republicans are taking money from these "much weaker" power brokers and will protect them in the name of free market capitalism, at the expense of the middle class, including their grass roots.
does he wear a toupee?
Didn't vote for Obama the first time, won't vote for him now. If the democrats want my vote they better put up somebody a whole lot better than Obama. Otherwise, it's republicans all the way for me. I just don't trust him...or Biden either – he reminds me of a snake that ate the whole chicken...
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel?blend=1&ob=5#p/a/f/1/kTBLhldVF9A
BS...another red tie in a fiels of hundreds...LOL
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Fareed Zakaria with CNN and Martin Bashir with MSNBC are green card holding liberal Mooslim Moonbats whose combined ratings amount to less than a Saturday sellout game at a Southeastern Conference football game. Is it any wonder intelligent people in this country laugh at these progressive buffoons?!
The wars were for the wealthy not for anything else. All the security added protects nothing but makes the security contrators billions. The current conflicts are over feeding oil that will make the wealthy even more money and the top Republican thinks that prayer is the way to save the country. Not one conflict except the revenge in Afghanistan was about anything but money and the debt that America owes with interest is owed to the wealthy would want legislation so they pay less tax on this incoming wealth. Why would a wealthy family want the debt paid down through higher taxes and clawing back all these "wars for cash" ? The money is owed to them anyways so a bankrupt America is a hostage cash cow to them
Why would any intelligent person compromise with socialist, big government loving liberal democrats? Why? Why would any right minded person follow them and the country off the cliff. "Them refers to both big government loving, tax payer spending Republicans and Democrats... The Republican party has been so liberal that most everyone believes there's a big difference between the two... I've got news for you... there isn't any difference other than a bunch of propaganda and BS. What this country needs is a true conservative who will give the establishment a beat down. Obama will go down in a landslide defeat and will be known as the worst president sense Jimmy Carter.
We had the unfunded 2001 tax cuts that created no jobs and the unfunded "Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003" that created no jobs, only a bubble (which the republicans won't talk about). Taxes were much higher 50 years ago, unemployment was much lower, one income could support a family, and there wasn't a huge wealth gap. Fast forward 50 years. Taxes are much lower, 2 incomes can barely support a family, unemployment is out of control, and the wealth gap has grown by leaps and bounds. Now use that god given brain and it's pretty clear to see where the issue is. The tax breaks go into the "job creators" pockets. Just from 2009 to 2010 CEO pay for the S&P 500 companies increased on average 27% while unemployment remains high, tax cuts were extended, and poverty in America is near a record high since the great depression.
I have not received Governor Perry"s transcript so is he elligible to be seeking office where is he anyway i just got to Houston on I 10 the freeways that was burning up
OUR TEXAS GOVERNOR BELONGS TO THE CONFEDERATE SOUTH HE HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING FOR TEXAS IT IS ALL THE WEALTHY MEXICANS WHO ARE LEAVING MEXICO HELLO
DURING THE DEPRESSION THE GREAT DEPRESSION MEXICO ECONOMY WAS STRONGER NOW PERRY WHO HAS NOT HELPED SOUTH TEXAS AT ALL FOR WEALTHY MEXICANS ARE INVESTING IN TEXAS
I have become scared of saying because the Republicans are in charge of the Mexican Drug Cartels.
Not another holy\-roller, pilot, governor of Texas please. Cut taxes, cut regulation, risk means nothing, non-funded give-aways to corporation policies, will just double up on the problems we have (let alone continue to embarrass the country to the world). More of this will lead the US to become just like Latin America in one term.
PEOPLE WILL BE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE WITH PERRY, HE IS SHOWING HIS DESPERATION. CLAY WALKER CAME OUT TODAY BECAUSE HE LIKES PERRY BUT IS JUST DEMONSTRATING HE IS ANOTHER HICK. NOT THAT ITS BAD BUT HE IS SHOWING HIS IGNORANCE WHERE MUSICIANS SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM POLITICS WHEN THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. BY THE WAY WALKER ALSO VOTED AND LIKE OBAMA.
RICK PERRY WILL WANT FOR AMERICA WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR TEXAS; PERRY HAS GIVEN FREE HEALTH CARE TO EVERY ILLEGAL THAT NEEDS IT, HE GIVES FREE TUITION AND IS IN FAVOR OR MORE FREE TUITION TO ALL ILLEGALS, RICK DOES NOT TALK ABOUT THE CRIME ESCALATION INCLUDING ILLEGAL WOMEN ABDUCTED AND USED FOR THE OLDER PROFESSION IN THE WORLD.
RICK HAS HAD AN EASY RIDE IN TEXAS WITH HIS FORMER DEMOCRAT FRIENDS WHERE THEY HAVE GIVEN HIM WEAK OPPONENTS THAT DO NOT EVEN CAMPAIGN OF COURSE ANYONE CAN WIN RE-ELECTION IN THAT FORM.
BY THE WAY CLAY WALKER DID SAY RICK WAS REALLY A DEMOCRAT AT HEART!!! IN ADDITION RICK HAS ALREADY MADE DEALS WITHA THE CORRUPT REPUBLICAN PARTY OF NY WHERE HE ALREADY HAS PATAKI'S SON WORKING FOR HIM IN AUSTIN. THERE IS ALMOST NO END TO RICK PERRY'S CORRUPTION NOW HE IS SO DESPERATE HE HAS GONE TO DONALD TRUMP FOR DONATIONS.
Nominating Perry is the best way to give Obama a second term.
I cannot figure out CNN's crush on this guy..is it the big money behind him also owns CNN? OR is CNN really the liberal rag the conservatives claim it is and they are setting up Obama for a second term.
Fareed, I agreed with everything you wrote - until that last paragraph. I believe Republicans will take over both houses in the next cycle, and we will finally be on the road to recovery. Any Republican will beat Obama, and should. I wish Ron Paul would win– he seems like the only one who gets it all right; his policies would speed our recovery the most– but Perry will do. If Obama wins, or if Democrats take either house, we (and, for that matter, the entire world) can kiss all hopes for prosperity good-bye.
We went to Iraq. We remove Saddam from power. We did damage. We are repairing the damage. We've borrowed money from China to do this. What have we gotten out of it?
Perry has been telling more lies than I can remember and yet Americans make no issue of it. How can we trust a man who is lying to our face and we let them get away with it. Is lying now the new norm? BTW Sister Bachmann and Palin are lying also through their teeth. How c an America ever gain respect again with liars in office. The politics in this country is just so very much corrupt.
I voted for Obama because he promised to get us out of Iraq and he would rein in the insurance companies. Unfortunately, we are still in Iraq and He put us in Afghanistan. We also now have a health care bill that was too long to read.
Who do we vote for? Republicans front runners are extreme right to the point of taking away my personal liberties. Democrats are so far left that they will sacrifice the economy to support the "global warming "theory. Of course the climate is changing! Science can prove that the Earth's climate has been changing through out it's existence. The little speck of time that we exist compared to the life of the earth can not account for the continual "climate change". It is a money maker for someone at the cost of others.
There are no moderate candidates on either side. It's all about big sound bites and the ever popular "mandate" . Why would any candidate truly want to upgrade education in this country? It's too easy to lead an uneducated public.
So tired of hearing about Perry, I'm voting Ron Paul, if he doesn't get the nod, I'm not voting after that, then its not my fault when the country gets worse!!!!!
Rick Perry is just more of the same politics. He has no real spine or integrity (when your actions, words, & beliefs all line up). America (and the world) is in real need of leaders who are not afraid to do what they are truly called to do, which is SERVE!!! This top-down or bottom-up approach will only continue to create problems. America is not in need of reformation but TRANSFORMATION! Real transformation is an inside-out process and as individuals, we can become the CHANGE that we want to see in the world. Rick Perry will fail to deliver just like all those who have come before him.
THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS PUTTING POLITICIANS IN OFFICE OVER AND OVER AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS!
The sarcastic thought guy who said that wealthy people are not job creators. Who are, then? Who here works for a poor guy? I don't.
Sounds like an opportunity for a third, centrist party.
"smoke filled rooms" get real.
You are right, when good people get fed up they rise up and get united. A revolution is taking place, one hard working common man and woman at a time- call it Tea Party if you like but it' s bigger than any label can box in. The eagle represents America and as long as the right wing flies one direction and the left wing another we will continue to fly in circles. As long as there are two teams within our one then the home team will never win. Between the filthy rich (who create jobs and yet have too many tax loopholes) and the poverty (usually uninformed voters that are used to hand-outs) is the middle class that carries the heaviest load and they have had enough. I am honored to be part of the same revolutionary movement that originally founded our country.
The Tea Party scares the hell out of me! If they manage to take control of the government, it will truly mean the end of the country as I have known it for my lifetime.
Tea Party is the reborn KKK. Whenever someone cries "down with government regulation", all you need to ask is whether they are referring to the type of regulation that would stop businesses from refusing to serve blacks at lunch counters.
Some one needs their marbles checked. Really? Is that what you think? WOW !! is all I've got to say.
Get out of here Bob with that idiotic rhetoric. The Tea Party was founded out of a sense of urgent frustration with the role of BIG Government and overspending. There is no racial agenda you uninformed sheep. Go back to collecting cans and huffing paint loser.
This is true. Look at the rhetoric of Rand Paul of Kentucky and his father, Ron Paul. He and other believe the government had no place in enforcing civil rights. Republican legislatures are passing laws making it more difficult to register to vote and shutting down urban polling locations to make it more difficult for minorities to vote.
There is a reason why almost all Tea Party activists are white. It is not a movement that cuts across racial lines.
Terminatus – Tea Party supporters are overwhelmingly against gay marriage (82%), for Arizona style immigration laws (88%), and against interaction with Muslim countries (73%). It's wrapped up in the anti-government, no tax is a good tax banner, but by the numbers a common thread in the Tea Party is intolerance and bigotry.
Don't listen to these tea party SHEEP! All they want to do is trade one dictatorship for another. I thought (when the tea party started) that they were going to be an Independent party, one that was nonpartisan. Why all the fascination with the GOP. They all want to say what sounds good, not for the benefit of the country. "Their own habitat, they're afraid that someday THEY will be inconvenienced" -George Carlin
No racial element to the Tea Party movement???? PLEEEEZE. Do you HONESTLY believe there would be a Tea Party if Obama had not been elected? They have been against EVERY policy the man has put forth. Sadly enough they are just pawns of the big corporations and the wealthy who just want to keep more of their net incomes.
Agreed, Bob. Although I wonder if the regulations they want to get rid of are the ones that stop industries from polluting the air and water, or the ones that protect our food and pharmaceuticals. If all the tea partiers want to live down stream from chemical factories and chance their children's lives on shoddy medications and poisoned food, then they should "walk the walk."
Welfare isn't a civil right, Historian. It is however, a person's right to be lazy, not desire to achieve anything, no desire to work, that's a person's right. It's not a right to be paid for being those things. Yes you should be an american citizen to vote, if one is he/she will have an issued ID. What's the problem showing it in order to vote? Why so against that? Voting is a privilege of citizenship. Not a right to anyone on U.S. Soil. If a person is truly in need, you'll not find any compassionate person regardless of party affiliation not willing to provide help personal or with assistance from the Government. Taxes to help fund the needy? Of course! Taxes to fund the lazy? The Illegal? Those who think it's their right to do nothing and get income redistributed to them from those that work for what they have? No thank you.
OH..let me get my sheet and hood!!
@CHUCK. Who said tolerance was a good thing? We have all tolerated this non-directional boat without a rudder long enough. I personally think we are screwed no matter who has the helm at this point.
The tea party is against everything government and regulations... Without an effective government they're free to discriminate! But you dont need to think much, look at them.
The Tea Party vision for America: undrinkable water, unbreathable air, uneducated children, letting sick people die, letting old people starve, and no middle class.
Bob, Bob, Bob,... why are you falling right into the stereotype of an emotional liberal who has close to zero ability to think critically or logically? Don't you realize how foolish you sound? Seriously, get a brain and pull the string between your legs...you are way over the top.. You must either work for the government or you depend upon the government for everything.
No it won't. If you think for one minute that the Tea Party Candidate won't start bowing to special interest powers as soon as he/she steps foot in the Oval Office then you are insane.
Excuse me but the Tea Party is already tied closely to the big business, as evidenced by their continued calls for the cutting of all government regulation. Which is itself insane, unless you favor larger and more frequent oil disasters and other preventable catastrophes.
Like obama bowing to saudi kings...or was he down 'there' for a different reason...
It was started by Rove and Fox News, hence the "astro turf" label. It has gotten out of control, but the people that will rise to the top of the anger will no doubt be put there by corporate interests. They will yell and scream their heads off in public, then walk back to their house and laugh their heads off. Heck, it probably takes them a few practice speeches to hold in their laughter.
@Troy - Obama may have "bowed" to Saudi kings, but the Bushes have been in bed with them for generations.
Toy, As I recall it was G Dubya who kissed the Saudii King many times. On the face I believe, at least on camera!
jack
Kissing on the cheek is a common form of greeting in that part of the world, no different than shaking someone's hand. Not even close to the same thing as bowing.
LOL, why do the idiots have such a hard time with Obama greeting foreigners with a polite bow or nod or what have you. Lord work on your intelligence and see if you can improve your IQ and begin worrying about REAL GD issues. 30 years from now when corporations own your family and everyone is dying at the age of 40 due to no healthcare and no government regulation of pollution or working conditions you will slap yourself upside the head for worrying about such inane things.
Excuse me, Kirk, but kissing is a form of greeting, but bowing to a foreign leader on his own soil isn't? Even the Pope bows to the Queen of England and other royalty when he visits them in their own country. It's protocol and even Reagan did it–several times. He even KNEELED to the Thai royal family. Was he a traitor or being weak or "doing something" to the Crown Prince?
That's how I felt when the progressives took hold of our country...
So you would rather regress? Ignore science and all that it has taught us? Pretend that Global Warming does not exist or is natural a phenomenon? How about getting rid of computers and going back to cursive writing? How about doing away with vaccinations; if you get sick, it must be because "God wills it."
What about civil rights? Shall we do away with all of the protections for children and minorities? What about women's right to vote? Heck – do away with that too! Where does it stop? Where does the madness stop?
Lol. Everyone at this point should consider themselves a progressive. You consider yourself a conservative? That means you wish for things to remain exactly as they are right now. 50 million in poverty, 50 million with no healthcare, environmental disasters ruining our land, 10% unemployment and healthcare heading to be unaffordable by most people in the next 10-20 years while our infrastructure is crumbling and our education system is laying off needed teachers in droves. America just got downgraded, and our brain trust is slowly being drained. A progressive is a person that realizes things are bad and looks for ways to improve conditions. You are actually slamming that?
Cat, I'm curious as to what it is about the Tea Party that scares the hell out of you. As far as I can tell, they/we just want a little be more of what the county was founded on. Not sure where you've lived in your lifetime, but times have changed quite a bit in mine and we're not the same country we were 50 years ago. Some good, mostly bad.
Yeah, except the country was founded 235 years ago, before we even had the telegraph. The founding fathers didn't anticipate the collusion between mega-corporations to subvert the power of the American people.
I'm not the person who originally said that the Tea Party is scary, but I can explain why:
1. The members don't understand that the libertarianism encourages the destruction of anti-trust laws, and thus the increase in the number of monopolies and near-monopolies. To be against "big government" is often also to be against minimum wage laws and environmental regulations. In other words, it's the party of big business.
(In other words, they don't understand the irony of their name–the Boston Tea Party was led by local merchants who opposed a modest rise in tea taxes and who disguised themselves as Native Americans to deflect blame. The 'tea party" was no grand popular movement supporting freedom. It was a matter of maximizing profit. The British argument was that the British navy protected ships delivering the tea, and thus higher taxes were needed. Legal notices were sent out. The "tea party" met in a Boston pub and then boarded privately owned ships and destroyed private property. The current "tea party" is just supporting business people who want to keep making money, but the members don't see it.)
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The Tea Party wants to get rid of direct election of Senators, abolish Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the Federal Reserve, the Food and Drug Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency, and federal aid to schools and students. They refuse to aid disaster-stricken areas and are ready to bankrupt the country, as we saw with the debt ceiling debate. In short, their ideas will destroy the basic protections that Americans have relied on for generations and render this country a third-world nation in no time of all because of their extremism and overwhelming ignorance of how the world really works.
The founding fathers NEVER invisioned the complexity of managing/administering a world class country with all the intecracies of a modern society/technology/economics. America was largely an agrarian economy, manufacutring was largely limited to adding value to agraian proucts (textile, grain, etc). There was no mass production and most corporations/enterprises/business had little influence outside of their local area. Most of today's pressing issues affect the entire nation and can not be solved with a patchwork of local requlations. Like it or hate it, there is no escaping that much of today's business, economic, technological issues are NATIONAL not local.
To make this work one needs a strong, intelegent, functional, rational national decision making and plan implementing process. Without this we will not remain a world power and revert to functioning like Germany or Italy into the late 1800's.
If one wants to go back to "the founding fathers" one also has to go back to a very elitist society and government. The founding fathers invisioned that well educated, intellegent, rational people - generally NOT elected directly by popular vote. Federal representation was often determined by state legislatures.
1) We stopped taxing to support spending as a policy beginning in the 80s; 2) we began piling up deficits to create a huge debt (again, beginning in the 80s) with a monstrous interest rate we can't afford; 3) we grew the military to ungodly proportions (beginning in the 80s) all while saying government is bad; 4) we started spending money on unnecessary large ticket items (e.g. unprovoked WARS) that shipped all of our tax dollars overseas, and stopped paying for them; 5) we stopped requiring fair practices from our trading partners in the hopes that our corporations would take advantage of low wages overseas and bring a lot of money back home to us (this was stupid); 6) we pay rich old people social security (this has always been true and it is just a gripe of mine); 7) we stopped competing in education and instead decided to throw money at the problem (You can't throw money into education and hope to change the fact that complacent American kids and parent don't care enough to excel and succeed. If you don't believe me, go to the SF Bay Area and see how the Indian and Asian immigrant children approach their studies. The schools do not look better than other schools, but the children do better because they are hungry like the old immigrants used to be.); 8) we stopped requiring prisoners to work and instead give them the ability to network with other criminals and watch cable TV (and we also do nothing for them when they get out, but this latter point is unchanged); 9) we stopped trusting scientific fact or near certain theories; 10) we have lowered the tax rate consistently; 11) we started listening to the likes of Sarah Palin and Michele Bachman to interpret the motivations of our founding fathers, rather than simply reading their actual opinions in historical writings; 12) we started valuing hokey sayings and untenable positions from our politicians rather than intelligence; 13) we discovered the power of the filibuster to bring the country and, in turn, western Europe and Asian economies to a halt; 14) et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
The tea party started out with some good ideas and honorable goals. The problem is they have been taken over by the fringe nutjobs. I have yet to see one photo of a tea party rally that isn't packed to the brim with angry old codgers. They're suddenly making a stink about things that have been going on for decades, sanctioned by the very politicians these people so vehemently supported. Not saying we don't need to make some changes, but let's be rational about it. Our defense budget is out of control yet I don't hear too many tea partiers rallying to trim that up.
In case you are genuinely curious, what scares me is that deregulation, lack of funding for literally crumbling infrastructure, lack of funding for education and research, no safety net for the poor, and basing political ideology on one specific religion sound like the exact recipe for a 3rd world country.
I've been to places where you need a 20 foot high brick wall topped with broken glass and a 24-hour-a-day armed guard if you are wealthy enough to eat 3 meals a day, and I don't think we should be intentionally putting America on that path.
Oh, and I do like the civil rights thing too, but I don't think the Tea Party has officially targeted that yet .
"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the Bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe.. corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money powers of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed."
An extremely prophetic quote by Abe Lincoln. Now, about that whole "what our country used to be thing", if the TP were truly interested in that they'd first have to study history – secondly, they'd have to acknowledge that the vision of the founding fathers was the strictest regulations you could place on corporations.
If this whole "take our country back" slogan had any truth to it they would be pushing for more regulation, not less. This is why the TP, and right wing in general, are complete facades!
so like you will have to finally get a job?
Boo!
You and me both.
A that's is a GOOD thing since Nobama has screwed things up soooooo bad already
Note to Toy Baloney: So I would assume you feel Congress has done a fine job? digging in their heels, obstructing at every turn and that "W" had nothing to do with the current debt situation? Very good-another "D" student railing against the President-Perfect...
Iy is the past 50-years of BS econimics and politics that have gotten us to this exact point in time...
No, 10 years of massive tax cuts, 2 unfunded wars, corporate deregulation and greed has gotten us where we are. And all the tea-baggers can do is congratulate the people responsible.
You want to see what America will look like under the Republicans? Look at Texas; minimum wage jobs and families on food stamps to survive while the very few at the top get richer and richer.
That is what Republicans call the American Dream.
All you need to do is re-watch the Tea-Party CNN Debate during a question about health-care for Ron Paul.
The question was basically, should tax payers pay for somebody who doesn't have health care or should we just let them die? A few audience members then shouted out: "let them die!"
This lack of compassionate by the GOP and Tea-Partiers will destroy communities all around the US, leaving to poverty and real physical class and race war-fare, ie. civil war
Don't be fooled. The Tea-Party movement is a white-Christian-supremacy movement ignited by the election of a Black President who has a Muslim sounding name. The GLOBAL economy is driving jobs to non-White countries like China and India, and this scares the heck out of these white-Christians.
Wow. Really? It is the white christians who are behind the tea party? We should just put that soon to be minority (in both regards) out of the political dialog. They had power for so long, they should just get on board and let the government take care of them.
It is not a lack of compassion. It is a demand that people take responsibility for their own welfare and not be a burden on the system or others. It is not unreasonable for me to expect that you live your life sufficiently responsibly that I do not have to prop you up. This notion that someone deserves some basic standard of living just for breathing and that the rest of us who actually work and produce should pay for it is ridiculous. THAT is the backlash. It is not about compassion.
yep.
Beammeup scotty, you are obviously an anti-Christain bigot. Besides you Libs are trying to re-write history. Obama knew what he was getting into and was elected to fix the economy, not make excuses. Obama with COMPLETE control of the government did nothing to solve this country's problems except spend money we didn't have to shore his union base. Most of the stimulus money went to states run by Democrats who in turn used it NOT to create private sector jobs but to pay for public sector pay, pensions and benefits delaying the inevitable by a year.
Why are so many Christians conservative?
Jesus was Liberal!
Wow... talk about generalization. So if someone in your "crowd" and audience yells something profound, you get to take the heat for that?
Obama has nearly destroyed the country. MoveOn.Org is the liberal's version of the Tea Party. Enjoy a taste of your own medicine.
Really? How has Obama destroyed the country?
He inherited an economy that lost over 8 MILLION jobs. But he still ended the recession in less than 3 months of his Presidency. And almost 2 years straight of private sector job growth.
The federal gov't has also shrunked under Obama. There are less people working in the federal gov't.
Obama actually got Osama, and can now safely remove US military out of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Obama has lowered taxes too.
Obama is actually doing something to cut the federal deficit. Did you see Bush or the GOP doing anything about the federal deficit the last 10 years? The Bush/GOP administration increased the federal deficit the most in the US history!
Obama is actually trying to lower health-care costs too. Did you Bush/GOP attempt to lower health care costs in the last 10 years? No! Instead Bush/GOP implemented a PRESCRIPTION DRUG PLAN that is costing tax-payers trillions of dollars more!
Now why do you think the GOP candidates are attacking the Fed Reserve?
Because they want to brainwash YOU into thinking it was the Fed Reserve's policies that created the Great Recession so that you will think the failed trickle-down policies of Bush/GOP can still work if we try it again.
I am a independent, more middle of the ground so not a fan of democrats or republicans.
And, I do not see how Obama has destroyed the country. The debt situation was already bad (and has been building up over the last 50 years. Go look it up. The debt increased dramatically during the Bush adminsitration (both Bush) and then went down in teh CLinton era. With the worst recession in 50 years the revenues coming in shrunk significantly while payputs had to increase to support the people hence the debt increased (in addition to the increasing cost of the wars).
All this while the taxes on the coporations has decreased. I will admit Obama should not have pushed the health care bill at this time (whether it costs or not as it is divise). As for the economy improving, it took 15+ years in the last recession like this and the effects were worse because the government did not react.
The corporate bailouts started under the Bush government and continued by Obama – some were good. If GM had nto been bailed the auto industry would have failed in the US like the TV and majority of the electronics industries. We would have lost the expertise and the jobs – a LOT more than what we would have. The banking industry balilouts – Govt, should have forced stronger returns from them just like the corporate vultures do to the comman man and each other when one is weaker.
To me Obama is in a no win situation like Nelson Mandela was in S. Africa (as seen in movie Invictus. Obama has tried to bring the two parties toegether and has given concessions by extending Bush tax cuts for the rich).
Go lookup what is happening in the world in economies that are flourishing: fiscal order, flat tax – the rising nations which have less debt also have a flat tax of 33% on all incomes above the avreage middle class income levels. Thus they have closed loopholes.
Indeed, the Founding Fathers wouldn't like it. The thought of having these people to run their beloved country would make them turn in the graves!
then apparently you are one of those establishment sheeps that would blindly follow the dems.seeing as both gop and dem establishment are responsible for the mess we are in it's sickening to read comments like yours.i don't think you really have the slughtest clue what the tea party is about.i also assume the only media you consider biased is fox as far as tv is concerned.you have been brainwashed.if i need wool,i'll call.
Yes, we are all sheep. So are you! Bah!
Is anyone else fed up with this sheep nonsense? Every time there is a disagreement someone pulls out the sheep card.
But the Tea Party IS THE GOP Party. That's the point. It isn't a third party. It doesn't have its own primaries. It doesn't have its own convention. There may be a few libertarians sprinkled in, but for the most part it is rank and file angry, conservative republican... Even worse is that the average statements I've heard from the average Tea Party voter attending rallies leads me to believe they are potentially even more ignorant of basic economics than the liberal who thinks we can spend our way to Nirvana and the average "fiscal conservative" who can't accept the basic reality deficit reduction (reduced government spending) is counterintuitive to economic recovery in an era of exceptionally high unemployment.
Our Founding Fathers were intelligent men willing to take personal risks for the betterment of our whole society – and by risk – I mean up to death for themselves and family (the British weren't particularly tolerant of independence at the time).
Our current leaders appear to be strictly concerned about re-election and personal gain (Tea Party, Republican, Democrat – no difference because the money required to get into an national office leaves them beholden to a number of somebodies). Those beholden interests lead to clearly poor policies – or these officials are just plain dumb. Dumb or willfully ignorant – it doesn't matter the outcome is the same – mediocrity or worse.
Just because the Tea Party (or any other fringe group liberal or conservative) is LOUD doesn't make them right. In a world with a prodigiously vocal Tea Party spouting rhetoric as fact, the moderating influences can not be heard. And I am VERY serious on the rhetoric aspect – the logic behind many of the active Tea Party tenants is shakey at best.
Of course I don't know what the point of even participating in elections at this point is – If anyone on this message board believes that anything short of replacing the entire bodies of the legislative and executive branches will actually move us forward then I'd like to sell you a bridge. I own it, I promise.
Glider – First off, you need to get a handle on the English language from a spelling and punctuation standpoint. You can at least enable spell check to help you out so that you at least 'look' intelligent.
Now, let's move on to your 'commentary'. Please due tell. What exactly is the Tea Party? I affectionately call it the Insane Asylum with the inmates running amuck. Rick Perry loves to issue Executive Orders making it law that 12 year old girls are vaccinated against their will. He also gives children of illegals tuition assistance in his state, and thinks that we should abandon science all together. I won't even go into the Social Security Ponzi Scheme comment, as he's already back peddling on that one.
Then we move on to Romney. He's flip flopped so many times on policy, depending on which one is most popular for that week, I don't think that we knows what he actually believes. He's about as scary as Howdy Doody and has a backbone made of jelly. He does try to confront, but the man is just not made for a fight. The terrorist scene across the pond would eat him alive. He doesn't want to publicly associate himself with the Tea Party, but deep down inside, he wants to be 'one of them' for sure. He just lacks the ball bearings to do so.
Then we have Bachmann. She's pretty much out the picture, but had to mention her anyway, as she is much nuttier than Palin and fun to watch, but certainly not President material.
So I think I've summed the Tea Party up pretty well. Doesn't take a genius or a 'sheep' to understand that their candidate pool is about as ridiculous as you are.
Me, too!! He is a very scary person. He is the kind of person who is 100% sure he is right when he is actually absolutely wrong.
You are correct. There was no tea party opposition to big spender Bush and his wars, but there is fierce opposition to a black man. Can you spell racist? We have millions of rednecks in this country. But wait about 40 years, they will be a minority.
Well the funny thing about what you said is that the white population declines in % and our debt increases in %. OMG A CORRELATION. Clearly the non-whites increasing in numbers is the reason we are worse off deport them. Seriously that type of bs statistics is what the left and right both put out which is why people like you blame all our problems on anything but the left/right. Thanks for being a moron and contributing to the problem.
You'd better have a fundamental understanding of statistics if you are going to use the terminology. Correlation is not an attribution or a cause. But I guess that part of NOT being a college-educated elitist is that you can pretend to know what you are talking about.
Incidentally, the rate of illiteracy can also be positively correlated to the national debt. The effective tax rate is negatively correlated. And you, my white friend, are clearly a racist fool.
You are so right. .The tea party is made up of uneducated whites, southern racists and western states rights folks all of who would like to tear the nation apart. Step aside Yugoslavia, here we come!!!
KKK was democrats.FACT. Teaparty scares you because they are mostly whites and you are a racist. FACT. So what's new?
Charlie. Please go read up on Nixon's "Southern Strategy." I think you will find that most of those KKK Democrats became Republicans.
David Duke is firmly a Republican. The Indiana Republican Party was taken over by the KKK in the 1920s. The KKK, along with such segregationists as Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond, left the Democrats after LBJ singed the Civil Rights Acts in the 1960s.
It really will not matter who is elected President, Congress is so politically polarized it will operate in crisis mode for the foreseeable future. The end is here get used to it. The next civil war is eminent in the US and it will be a class war this time. The middle class is tired of paying for everything. The richest hire attorneys to hide and protect their wealth. The poorest already live day to day in uncertainty . Exactly how much money do you really need to be comfortable? I do just fine on $20,000 a year. I pay my mortgage and taxes. I don't need a new car every year. I don't buy the latest fashions but I don't dress in rags either. I actually look for and buy Made in America whenever possible. I have a garden and know how to can. When these two parties destroy this once great nation I'll be one of the survivors, will you?
Oh cry more you hypersensational liberal. This is the same damn thing the right was saying when obama got elected... Its the end! Same as when bush got elected both times... Its what everyone says about the other party when they are a biased moron. Stop tuning into only one side open your eyes see that both sides lead us to doom but aren't doom itself. When more than 50% of americans do that we will fix our country until then over sensational idiots like you will continue to ruin facts and truth to the point nothing gets done about anything.
I like the fact that CNN is championing the Republican agenda now. Intelligent people in the news media ignore facts and common sense and create a hype. WHAT ABOUT KEEPING THEM HONEST????? I truly hope Perry wins the nomination and go on to win the presidency. I want to see the dismantling of the United States of america as we know it. No one can do the work for the terrorists better than the Tea Party
Good. You'll like the country better once we're done with it.
If big corporations and banks are not represented as strongly by the republican party, are they represented more by the democrats, or are they just not represented as much, period? And could there possibly be a link (indirectly) to unemployment rates? Difficulty accessing loans + fear of financial risk = lack of investment and hiring. Hmmmm......
The RICH are the ones funding and inciting the Tea-Party movement.
Don't be fooled. The folks on the ground for the Tea-Party are dumb. The ones pulling the strings behind the scenes are smart and rich.
Once the GOP controls the WH and Congress again, the masters behind the Tea-Party will dump the bottom feeders.
Conspiracy theories do not a good ideology make...
This is the absolute truth. The ultra rich are pulling the strings, playing the Tea Party like puppets; using their hate and fear to take even more from the rest of us until there is no middle class, just poor and less poor. And these fools can't wrap their tiny, beady brains around that concept. They are just so pleased to have their hatred and fear pandered to.
I hope your right.. if we keep on the path the republicans want there will be no more "UNITED States"
AGREED! Wake up folks. They are turning us on each other! And it's working. Illegal aliens, Muslims, gays, unions, the poor and long-term unemployed - ALL are being demonized by these crazy tea bag types.
can you imagine? the country run by a pack of hell hounds (tea P.)
That would be better than being run by a complete wuss like we are now. If obama doesn't have a speech in front of him, I heard he wets his pants!
Unfortunately Obama is turning out to be spineless and weak. That is why I voted for Hillary in the primaries. She is the strongest politician in this country.
Yeah, getting Osama (as opposed to just saying "smoke 'em out" and other crap) sure was wussy. And at least he CAN speak (unlike "nuc-u-lar" W, Bachmann believing vaccines make you "retarded," etc.. I sure hope you're not trying to bring up the teleprompter crap again, either. You do know politicians on both sides have used the teleprompter since the 1960s, right? It's just Obama's guilty of Speaking While Black.
All this talk about the Tea Party is a waste of time. Not one of them can win the Hispanic or Black or Independent votes. Sorry, but it is gonna be President Obama again!
This is the perfect storm for the election of an independent. Two extremes and no one in the middle. The electorate will reject Perry and Obama. Lesson for all.
I don't think a third party candidate can ever win, until we introduce optional "range voting". Check the web to learn what it is.
It's the perfect storm for the re-election of President Obama and that is just fine with me. I hope it also leads to the failure of the Republican party in 2012. They need to regroup and define valid and coherent policies.
Amen brother! The centrists and libs who stayed home last year will be out in force now that the Tea Party has shown that the welfare of the country comes second to their desire to give tax breaks to corps/ wealthy.
The notion that Obama is extreme would be laughable, except it's the lie repeated enough everyone believes it.
Given a chance, he would be and extremist. He is a socialist at heart, at least according to his past writings.
Horse hockey. If you think Obama's writings have been particularly leftist, you haven't read many serious leftists. Obama is a moderate pragmatist.
Obama is closer to the middle than Clinton ever was. And to infer Perry is to the right is an understatement.
How this guy can attract votes while his views are to take away you right to vote seems pretty Republican to me. Look it up, Perry thinks the 16th and 17th amendments should be repealed.
Perry is a racist anarchist cowboy
Obama is a moderate. Had he been the screaming liberal the right claims, he would have nationalized the health care system. All doctors, nurses, and pharmacists would have become employees of the federal government. Hospitals would have been seized by the government. Nothing of the kind happened. All he really did was to introduce market forces (the exchanges) and outlaw insurance company abuses of the public. But to listen to the wingnuts, the man is a communist/socialist. What baloney.
John in Colorado
You are on the money. Now the challenge is to help others to realize the truth before the loud mounts ruin the country.
Precisely. Obama is not a socialist or communist. This is a trully pathetic label that works well with those with the lowest IQ. It's actually a litmus test for stupidity. He is not a *great* president, but he is definitely head and shoulders above the rag tag team of hillbilly anarchists under GOP/TEA banners.
The "rise" of Rick Perry can be attributed solely to colossal media hype. Until they figured out which Republican to back I had never heard of Rick Perry before. Now we know who our corporate masters want instead of the guy the public elected.
I live in Texas. Perry is right out of Central Casting when it comes to a disingenuous, BS-ing politician who demagogues to the religious right to suck up those votes.
But, living in Texas, why should I bother to go vote if Perry ends up being the Repub. nominee? You think Obama has a chance here.
When they get rid of the Electrical College (just a little joke), my non-Republican vote won't be nullified. But now, why should I waste my gas driving to the polls?
That's how Republicans in Washington State have felt for decades. If you don't mind the rain come on over here!
"Power has also shifted away from the proverbial smoke-filled rooms to the grassroots. The forces that represented the establishment in the Republican Party – the big corporations and the banks – are much weaker. "
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This will no doubt come as quite a shock to the Koch Brothers, Rupert Murdoch, and all the other big corporate special interests who are bankrolling the "grassroots" (i.e. astroturf) Tea Party....
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss...
The King is dead. Long live the King.
Hahahahaha!!! Bow down to your corporate oligopoly overlords!
You think your individual vote means anything when you have 2 predefined choices?!!?
I have to give it to the corporate overlords. They saw that people were catching onto their scheme of buying offices by funding candidates' coffers directly. So, what do they now do instead? They fund fake 'grassroots' movements with participants who will obey whatever is spewed to them on the Faux News pulpit. Those participants will then predictably fund and vote for candidates who have the corporate overlords' interests in mind. It's just like big agrochemical companies buying up all the little organic food manufacturers and then watering down the standards for 'organic' so as to mean nearly the same as 'conventional'. They are peddling you the same sh|t with a different brand and name.
I must admit that it's a brilliantly simple approach. It's a new era of laundering corporate funding via undereducated zealot ideologues who will do their bidding for them. Religion has been doing this for years. I'm surprised it took the corporate overlords this long to figure it out.
To be fair, it's a little different. It used to be big U.S. corporations bankrolling the GOP. Now it's big foreign corporations since the Supreme Court opened up unlimited spending by foreign corporations in elections so they can buy whatever candidate they want. Thanks, Justice Roberts and Justice Alito!
There are a whole lot more big-shot executives pulling the strings of the Democrats than there are pulling the Republicans' strings. George Soros, Howard Schultz, Larry Ellison, Steve Jobs, Marc Ecko, Mark Cuban, George Kaiser, etc., etc., etc. The Democrats consistently receive more campaign financing from corporations than the Republicans do. They have to get it somewhere and, unlike the Republicans, the people who actually vote for Democrats don't have any money.
The Republicans search for a candidate:
Bush - horrible devastation. Therefore, we need worse. Palin, yes, she's even worse! No wait, Perry, he's the worst of all! We want him! Hurray!
The rise of Ricky????????/ It should be the rise of Ron Paul except that the media ignores him UNLESS they want to sabotage him with a trick question. The media should be tarred and feathered then boiled in oil and then finally shot.
And THEN I want to come and spit on your graves......Have a nice day.......
I don't see how the insurance question was that tricky. It did highlight the fallacy in libertarian thinking. There are consequences to decisions and if you embrace a certain way of thinking it means you are accepting those outcomes. You can't embrace a reliance on personal responsibility and also expect that everyone will make decisions that benefit them selves or that do no harm to others. It just won't work that way.
I agree. Republicans have got to stop saying that every question they are too sheepish to answer is a "gotcha" question. Ron Paul's answer that well in his town all the churches came together to help people... what? Is that what we are supposed to rely on? Paul's old neighbors or his old fond memories of the people that were his neighbors? I like Ron Paul, but definitely lost respect for him on that one.
Reply to WHS:
The government takes money from your hand, and creates a system that is inefficient and reduces freedom by requiring you to have health insurance.
Instead the government could give back, let the free markets create a better, more cost effective system, then you have the choice to get health insurance.
It was forced on you, but you have health insurance. It could not be forced on you, and you could still have health insurance.
To the question. YES LET HIM DIE AND TREAT HIS OWN WOUNDS. If you were dumb enough not to get health insurance, then you are going to have to beg and plead for help when you are in trouble. It was forced upon you before, but now you want to opt out? How is letting that man be responsible for his own decisions wrong????
Should we force people not to drive? Since driving is dangerous and people aren't allowed to take the risks of possibly dying. Should we have a government worker at your house making sure you swallow properly? Because you could choke. It's crazy to think that people who believe you can be responsible for yourself are out of line. FREEDOM IS WONDERFUL.
Why do Ron Paul supports always sound like petulant, frustrated four year olds; seriously, you would spit on someones grave? The media has little if anything to do with this – if you want a whipping boy, look to your OWN party that won't nominate Paul – ever.
What you just admitted to was voting for a party and not a candidate. What you fail to realize is that the Republican Party doesn't recognize Ron Paul as a Republican. And, for that matter, you'll find walks of all parties and flavors finding common ground under Ron Paul. There are a lot of self-proclaimed Democrats saying they agree more with Paul than Obama.
Your mistake is that Ron Paul is a conservative, NOT a Republican. There is a difference.
Democrats and Republicans are BOTH sell outs, war mongers, easily influenced by lobbyists, chosen by the media, strong supporters of bailouts and money handouts to failing corporations, need I go on? They are looking like the same party. Just different colors.
By definition, politics is the art of compromise. The new Republican party promises more confrontation and gridlock at a time when compromise is needed more than ever. Thefuture does not look good for America...
The only hope for this country is a moderate Republican...like Bill Clinton.
Or Barack Obama.
The Repulican Party will never elect a black man president. They have enough trouble trying to get behind the Mormon.
There really isn't a good choice in the GOP. The factions are religious nuts, libertarians that have an idealistic goal but ignore reality, and corporate stooges. The Dem factions are not a lot better but at least some of them acknowledge that science is useful in making decisions.
When Obama was elected most of the people in this country felt a great sense of hope. As we watched Obama's presidency hacked to pieces by the most obstructive opposition party since the Civil War, we began to lose a lot of that hope. Now, with this article, there is a real feeling of hopelessness. That so many people would prefer the backward, simple-minded ideological solutions of the GOP/Tea Party is truly depressing. How can this be? How can so many people be so misinformed and so completely disinterested in facts? That someone like Rick Perry, a genuine bag of hot wind with antebellum views and a theocratic platform, could be the leading Republican contender is sickening. I hope all of this is just primary hysteria, and that the general election will bring out the "better angels" of our republic.
The fact that Perry thinks the 16th and 17th amendments should be repealed should tell you enough.
That gives citizens the right to vote for their representatives.
Welcome to Texas. We (democrats and independents) have been putting up with that c r a p for the last 10 years. Pretty soon we'll be just like Mexico, a very very rich upper class, no middle class and a huge lower class. Yikes!!!
Boo hoo
All these people afraid of the tea party, have been extremely brainwashed. Now I do understand that some are freaks, i.e. Palin, Buchanan, ect. but the actual American people in the party have the right ideas. Stop spending money you don't have!!! Period, that is all they are saying. If you have a problem with that, then yes be afraid. You won't get your services for free anymore.
The Tea Party so far has categorically refused to compromise. As compromise is what our government was based on, I see this as a real and large problem if the Tea Party members are ever elected in numbers large enough to control Congress. Already they are leading the rest of the GOP around by the nose. The simple fact is that our founding fathers based our government on compromise to restrict power – plain and simple. Yet nowadays compromise is seen to be a dirty word. I seriously fear for the future of this country.
Rstine,
Follow this compromise conversation. We just need to spend $20 on the problem. But sir, we only have $5. Ok then, lets cut it to $15. But sir, we only have $5. I am going to the media and saying you won't compromise. I am going to the lender's office and filing bankruptcy.
You compromise two different ways to the right answer. You never compromise towards the wrong answer.
One last point on compromise by the founding fathers, One of the compromises was to continue to allow slavery in the South. Definitely a compromise, but obviously a mistake. Maybe those in the right on that day should have held their ground to stand for what's right.
And before anyone says, who is to say what is right, the fact that anyone says that is exactly what's wrong with this country.
compromise? Wait isn't that were both parites give a little and find a middle ground. that only works when it's possible to work. So far the Dems idea of compromise is to get their way. When they ask to spend money my great great great great grandkids will still be paying for because we don't have the money and are told we cannot do that they scream that repubs are unwilling to compromise. You know what, I'm not will to compromise either. Listen congress...we don't have any extra money, in fact we are spending money we epect to not earn for a few decades.......you cannot do that and not go broke fast....sooner or later the lines of credit will dry up. then again who knows what we are spending, the dems have refused to pass a budget since Obama got into office...I guess it makes it easier to spend if you can just look at the camera and say "I don't know what broke we are"
Freshone
Your analogy and example doesn't really apply here. For example we may only have $5 but we have the ability to raise another $5 without borrowing or endangering the economy. We certainly shouldn't spend the $20 in this case but it is reasonable to discuss whether or not a budget of $10, $7.50, or even $5 will result in the best outcome for the nation. When even Reagan's economist is saying that you can't resolve the issues at hand without increasing revenue it is a bit extreme to demand that the only solution is the $5 budget.
A nation of compromise is what you want us to be? COmpromise on liberties? Compromise on civil liberties? That very word is a horrid word – let's compromise on my ideals because the media says it's the cool thing to do – compromise.
In some manner, the GOP is penning its own demise; it should have cut off the Tea Party when this frankenstein creation started to emerge. If they were were smart, they would force the TP out and let them run as independents.
TDiddy,
To yell at the top of a person's lungs to stop spending without looking at the greater picture is irresponsible. Unwillingness to compromise is irresponsible. Believe me, everyone, Democrats and Republicans believe in cutting out waste. We all believe in functioning government. No one wants to get taxed for no reason. It's hard to have a rational discussion with all the, "if you don't see it my way and do it my way, then it will be no way."
Want to know what scares me? What if this doesn't end. What if the party in the minority always claims to be the party of opposition. The outlook doesn't look good for anyone. Especially the citizens of this country.
Southern Democrats such as George Wallace or Lester Maddox, the extreme Racists left the Democratic party in the 1960s after the Civil rights act. This is why the Democrats had such a dry spell through the Reagan Bush years. Well, now that racist separatist spirit is back and it is going to wreck the Republican party.
Boy, do I ever hope you're right!
This is truth, plain and simple. We need to get level-headed, pragmatic politicians in office who will base their decisions on reason, logic, scientific evidence, facts, and empathy for others. Policy made with those things in mind in the latter half of the past century is what elevated the status of the United States to superpower. This new reliance on religion, bigotry, and fear nonsense may very well erase much (if not all) of that progress.
I just don't buy it. Just because the Tea Party republicans are the focus of a lot of the media does not make them the majority. They are entertaining as hell sometimes, that much is true. But just because they are the loudest does not make them the most prevalent. I think the what's true for the republicans is true for the democrats: the vast majority of the party is made up of ordinary people just going about their lives. There are extremes on both sides, but I believe that in the end, sanity will prevail.
I would be inclined to agree; and corporate donors would do well to think carefully who they support; Perry does not speak for the majority of the GOP.
Of course the Tea Party is the GOP, just like all muslims are Al-Qaeda!
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”
Sinclair Lewis
Fascism is based on a unified power base, combining government, business and industry, religion and labor into a single party. The only thing the GfOxP has left out is labor. They're just trying to diminish its influence.
Actually, Fascists came to power in Italy, Germany, and Spain opposing organized labor and working to strip the rights of unions in their countries. Once labor was out of the way, there was no one to organize and stop them.
Excellent
So true, so tragically true.
Money still ultimately calls the shots; the power elite still control the judiciary at local, state, and federal levels; and the same small-minded, small-hearted, and fearful people that voted for Bush Jr. will vote for Perry; so i don't see that the basic dynamics of the Repulican party have actually changed all that much.
People are scared of the Tea Party because it means change to their cushy handout system. The city of San Francisco will likely collapse in ruin upon Obama's departure.
With the exception of Texas (by a narrow margin), red states receive more money from the federal government than they pay in taxes. Blue states receive less than they pay in taxes...seems that the handout is going the other way.
Term you drink too much of the Perry Punch, this is paranoid delusion that everyone has their had out is a tea party delusion that seems to grow by the day and not supported by evidence.
This is a poor piece of journalism. Rick Perry, as we all know, is HARDLY grassroots. He has the entire mainstream media behind him, propping him up in the middle with Mitt Romney at every debate, and allowing his "sparring" matches with Romney to dominate the headlines. Zakaria writing articles like this is another example. They WANT us to like him, but we just can't. A real grassroots candidate in my eyes is somebody like Ron Paul. His message seems to be the most honest, practical which is probably why he continues to win debate poll after debate poll. Huntsman, Bachmann, etc seem to lack any originality and resort to disagreeing with Perry/Romney. Ron Paul 2012.
This tells you that the media is reading the enormous response of "Where's Ron Paul" in this article, and they decide to pretend that everyone else is getting ignored as well.
Props to the writer for joining the ranks of our national state-run media.
Author Zakaria is an Asian with a huge ego .. who the FxxK is Fareed Zakaria to claim he knows this .. Pure bull pucky .. He did not claim any poll results in this piece. Fareed Zakaria is no different than Cream of White cereal – - groool ..
Don't be taken in people who read this .. This guy is also a huge supporter if Prez Hussein Obama – - our socialist president.
Zakaria is no more credible than Sarah "Betcha" Palin – - except he's an apologist for the Effete Impudent Eastern Snots.
And your just creepy, plain old everyday boring creepy. I'm an Independent who will make sure your kind never gets elected.
Did losing your tinfoil hat make your extra gwumpy today?
Do you even know where he is from? Before you comment on something it might be best to know what it is you are talking about. I am guessing you still think Obama is from Kenya too. If the facts do not support what you believe then dismiss them as they just get in the way. Nice.
People from India are from the Asian continent. So in that respect they are Asian. But as I understand it there is a mix on Mongoloid, which is Asian. And a mix of Middle Eastern and are then considered Aaucasian. Caucasian doesn't mean "white" for those who do not know. Many think it does but that is not the case. Mind you, I could be very wrong. But any thoughts are appreciated.
"Zakaria is Asian? Really?
Do you even know where he is from? Before you comment on something it might be best to know what it is you are talking about. I am guessing you still think Obama is from Kenya too."
Hmm, he was born in 1964 in Mumbai, India. Last time I checked India is in Asia, South Asia to be more specific. Your ignorance is mind-boggling.
Here have a little fun with this. Click on the blue links. Might just learn something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ethnic_groups_of_India
Why does it matter what nationality Zakaria is? It is this kind of shallow mindedness that led us into two wars and put our country into massive debt. Everyone wants to blame Obama when the reality is George W. Bush's mess was very expensive to clean. When is the last time a Republican president balanced the budget? Clinton did it just a decade ago.....oh wait, he was a Democrat!
I would agree with your statement. Also as to what does it matter where he was born. He is an American Citizen Simple as that. Should he not have the same rights as anyone born here? I would also remind people that most of our families came from somewhere else. That is the fabric of America.
"...characterized as irresponsible by people like me."
"Irresponsible" is spending the country into bankruptcy. In what sense is trying to prevent that "irresponsible?"
Austerity in the face of the deepest recession in a generation is the height of irresponsibility. The Tea Party is making the mistakes of 1932 all over again.
1932? Lots of legislation for a decade. The "great Depression"
1920? One year. No legislation. The "Lost Depression".
What's your point? Notice how all these politicians want more and more legislation, and things keep getting worse and worse? Guess not.
Read your history. The Great Depression is not a monolithic event. In 1932 Congress introduced austerity measures after a couple of years of stimulus which held the Depression at bay. The result? Economic collapse.
Yes, be concerned about politicians who want the government to spend without restraint and with no plan to balance the books. My question is why this concern was not raised when Saint Ronald Reagan started digging this hole? Why wasn't this concern raised when George W. Bush started an unnecessary TRILLION DOLLAR war "off the books" and then cut taxes to give a false "feel good" vaneer to the deception? These right-wing hypocrites want President Obama to pay for Republican sins that go back 30 years.
Start treating Ron Paul seriously and stop paying attention to geniuses like Perry.
Don't blame us or media, blame your own party for that. They ignored him in the last two elections – and they will ignore him now. Don't you see the writing on the wall, they are all but drooling over Perry, ready to appoint him to the throne before the primaries even start. This is not about the left vs right or Obama – your own party passed him over.
I'm not even a republican or conservative but I refuse to vote for the puppet, liar and the clown that is in the office now, therefore Ron Paul gets my support.
No. People watch TV and want to vote for someone they favor the most, and against folks they favor the least. When teh media Calls out the top 4 candidates and skip over Ron Paul whether he's in second or third place, you can blame the media.
And anyone who think the "party" cares for anything other than their donations and your vote, well they don't. They don't care. They want their career politicians and their money. They also want your money too, so they can spend it.
Rick Perry is a pendulum-swing to counter Obama just as Obama was pendulum-swing to counter Bush.
You have a point. There are only so many choices either party has in any election, so if the residing President is doing a good job in your opinion you re-elect him and if he's doing a terrible job then pick out one of the other options on the other side and kick the residing Pres. out. In this case with our residing Pres. our economy has gotten worse, unemployment gotten worse, gas prices gotten higher, our Debt tripled, stimulus failed, Omabascare rammed down our throats and failed, poverty levels risen, foreclosures quad-tripled all under his watch -then it is a no-brainer. On CNN, they are asking who is Rick Perry's moneyman? Well who was Obama's? How do you go from a "community organizer" who's usual salary is around $25,000 a year to owning a $500,000 home and getting financially backed to become Pres?
Now we have someone running our country who has never ran anything- (not even a gas station) and now he is running our country into the ground- and 2012 will determine if the ground is our grave or a turning around place.
I hope that you are wrong. The tea party scares me!!! I like Mike"s reply.
Who's going to debate Obama in front of the nation? It will prove to be ther undoing...
Repeat the phrase "I created jobs you didn't" will be all anyone will need to say.
Truth is that same phrase can be recycled in 2016.
God help us all...
The "Tea Party" is a corporate front organization funded by the Koch brothers. It should rightfully be called the John Birch Society. No one seems to mention this very much.
Birch can be used to make tea. Birch tea is considered to have medicinal quality. I think calling it the 'Tea Party' was a subtle nod to the JBS.
10-years from now our "Plan" is to be $26-TRILLION in debt.
Explain to me how things will be better then when we still need more jobs, higher SS payments and lower taxes?
We the people are morons.
The Democratic Party better get smart, real fast, because President Barack Obama is going to be a one-time President. The Democratic Party better bring out their two or three big guns, or heavy hitters and start campaigning for the presidency in 2012, and before the Democratic Party Convention. I have asked all of my friends that voted for Senator Barack Obama in the last election and they all said, and I quote.., "I voted for Barack Obama last time and this time around, I will NOT be voting for President Barack Obama, (period)." Its like the hand writing is on the wall and there is nothing President Barack Obama can do about it. The only one in his cabinet, that I can think of, to run and win against the Republican Party is Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Believe me.., the Democratic Party better find or bring in their popular two or three big guns or heavy hitters, because President Barack Obama is going to be a one-term President. They better start now, before it is too late and before the Democratic Party Convention. Their already behind in the polls and just plain people on the street, will NOT vote for him again. Sorry.., but true. Mike in Montana
Sorry dude, it's already too late.
I love when Republican's like you think they speak for the country. You don't, nor does the Tea Party.
Dude, just love it when you talk about the running of our Country as if it were a Ballgame,or a War. You lose me with the armchair rhetoric. I also love reading the blogs that always try to make us believe that standing by Obama instead of dividing ourselves at this late date is a must.
Go troll somewhere else.
Wrong. I voted for Obama the 1st time and will be voting for him again. Everyone else I know that voted for him is voting for him again as well so don't get your panties in bind.
The lack of compromise or to think about other's position in a positive light is an issue for the President or the Congress. This has been an issue this year, and for better or worse, President Obama has yielded to republican demands on all issues during his presidency. So much so, many democrats like me think that he has sold us out and does not have any principles of his own or does not believe in his own proposals. This makes the republicans bold and unashamed and ready to do more harm for this country.
For the sake of our country, I hope that the author of this article is wrong and that we do end up with a President and Congress that is ready to work rogether to solve America's problems and not to stick one ideaology as a Mantra.
For President Obama, I hope he still has the courage to show his convictions and the proposals he can stick to and fight for and not give-in to these republicans who just care to win the re-election and defeat Obama. If cannot stand the heat for his convictions, he should not run for re-election and let some other democract come forward who would be true to his or her convictions and fight for them.
If republicans win the presidency, I wonder if the TEA Party will still be as loud, angry and outspoken as they are now. republicans always expand government into people private lives. lets see if they will protest a republican president. they claim to be independent, so lets see
If? lol, they already won it and it didn't even start yet...
Plenty of people have more relation to the Tea Party than the other two failed parties of the last 20 years.
What's cool is that if you're that 35% of the populace and only vote Democratic, or 35% of the populace and only vote Democrat, you can have a new 30% to hate too.
Rick Perry is an ignorant DOOSH.
Yes but there are a lot of ignorant voters out there.
Yep, that's how Obama got elected. Give yourself a doggie treat out of your unemployment/stimulus check for you are finally right for once!
Mr. Zakaria, I agree with your statement regarding the increasing power of the radical Christian conservatives in the Republican party but...your assertion that the big corporations and the banks are much weaker is (sadly) completely untrue. Especially, in the wake of the horrendously destructive SCOTUS decision in Citizens United.
I hope the Democratic Party puppeteers in their own proverbial smoke filled rooms share the same fate as their Republican counterparts. The left in this country should learn a lesson from former "pragmatic" leftists facing the rise of fascism in their countries, (Germany, Spain, Italy etc.). None of them lived to warn future generations that their is no such thing as successfully negotiating with facsists. We need a Churchill in this country, not a Chamberlain. And we need a real leftist party, not a smoke filled room full of autocrats.
I used to vote for whatever I deemed was best for the economy but the popular Republicans are getting wackier and crazier every year. Please tell me that the Republican party will get their act together soon. God help us!
There is no god.
You can see in 2012
Just about everyone likes to gernalize in extremes. The tea party is not completely made up of radicals that will not compromise. Its made up mostly of people that are fed up with the status quo. I am sure there are very few Tea Party people that want zero goverment regulation. They just want less, allot less, but not zero. It is when people like Bachman make crazy statements and claims that the party as a whole is portrayed that way. If you have a crazy cousin, does everyone you know think you are crazy? Sounds like yes from most comments. What issues will the new Republican party be less flexable on? Spending, sure. Typical Democratic issues like corp loopholes, seems like they would be more flexable. I would hope that a new Republican party would get mroe done in Washington. Newt is the smartest candidate of both parties but he doesn't seem to attract the general public.
It's really hard to not draw the "extremist" conclusions when the choice for the Tea Party is apparently is Rick Perry! I'm certain of the fact that there are great Republicans and Demarcates too but they are all sucking big time right now. The Tea Party is sucking even louder. Not only are we going to get politics as usual with Perry but we'll get an extremist as an added bonus.
They want someone else to have 'less,a lot less'. That's the point. By the way I heard the shouts from the Tea Party during the debate regarding the health care of an uninsured person. I heard the applause it got too. You will never spin that nice.
Do any of you remember that when Reagan was President he made it possible for hospitals to turn away people who didnt have insurance,and many died because of it? Does anyone remember that?
If the Tea Party gets any real power at the national level, this country is finished. Every time I hear any of their "leaders" speak, it's like listening to something straight out of the 13th century, or modern day Iran. Their vision of a one-party military-theocracy should scare the GOP as much as it scares the rest of the country.
Witness the breakup of the Republican party; Disaffected conservatives follow the siren-call of the Koch brothers and take their energy and money with them to the promised land of the Birch Tea Party; Moderate Republicans quietly try to distance themselves from the mob of tri-corner-hat wearing tea partiers with their flintlock rifles and their flag shirts. Republican pragmatists understand that a divided Republican party is a weaker party and that politics is not a war, it's a marriage, and compromise and negotiation is sometimes needed. Dream on, Democrats.
What "leaders"? Bachmann? Paul? A Tea Party person isn't necessarily a drone like the other parties.
Take this into account, your friend is drinking like mad and vomiting and needs to be cut off. As soon as you get cut off, you start blaming the guy cutting you off. And for whatever insanity-filled reason, the only way to continue to live is to keep drinking until you pass out.
Makes a lot of sense. Just like continually voting these media/party-cronies into office.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the new Republican Party starts holding rallies at night with Huge platforms of lit insignias and droves of marching folks saluting to their great leaders. When will people ever learn from the past?
Neither Romney, nor Perry, are winning next year. So who cares?
BD
It'll be one of those two unfortunately.
The more religious and the less compromising the Tea Party becomes, the more they will alienate themselves from the rest of the electorate. Perry/Palin/Bachman have made a joke of the Republican party, and they are the front runners in Republican polls so the Republican's will nominate one of these fool's due to their false sense of confidence and will fail miserably in the general election.
I'll be sitting back with my popcorn enjoying the show.
The political parties have been compromising for 50 years a look at the mess that "compromise' has made of this nation. The time for compromise is over. Let each party state what it believes in, how it will solve problems, and what their vision for America and the world is. Then fight for those beliefs without compromise and let the voters decide who they will support and put in office. It is time for real change and real conviction – not compromise.
Our country is built on compromise. Equality Liberty and Justice for all Men AND Women. I though the Tea Party stood for founding principals?
George Washington stated often that he believed the Capitol should be a place where men came to resolve their differences rather than emphasize them. He and many others in the 1780s and 1790s believed political parties would lead only to division and corruption. Once again, the Tea Party has ignored the real history of this land.
You know, I just had to teach my 6 year old that you can't get all of what you want. Guess TPers still need to learn that lesson.
Obama will never again in USA if you (fareed) stand aganist him ,you will win DO you want to try.
Fareed:
Spot on, but the essential word that you didn't use is "reactionary," which applies quite well. The emerging GOP is not conservative, at least not in the Burke/Disreali sense of valuing stability and measured, limited governmental change (in either direction) only when and as warranted by careful consideration of outcomes, which historically was distinguished from progessives' penchant for abrupt change "forward" in service to an inevitable evolutionary notion of political thought. No, these folks are reactionary...offering a wrenching return to a previous era (they cannot quite identify which...18th century? 19th? early 20th?) which of course is impossible because the place they wish to return to never existed (18th century politics went with 18th century hygiene, transport, indentured servitude, etc.), and can't be recreated in the modern, diverse world of today. So they imagine away anything that is in conflict with their vision (crumbling infrastructure, educational system decline, a rising and ignored underclass, the aspirations of other nations, etc.), and promise all will be well if we just repeal Obamacare and "unleash the private sector." If only it was that easy...if only that formula had worked one of the many times that it ruled in the past. Sigh.
well said.
Having established politicians run as Republican candidates has never been a particularly good thing, but having the Republican Party be hijacked by the religious, extremist, and often ignorant people that are running today is terrible. The Tea Bag party should spin off from the Republican Party and fade into oblivion along with their brand of intolerance. The Tea Bag party forgets that we live on a planet with billions of other people. We can't go back to the isolationist past where we feel that we're blessed and everyone else is here to serve us.
I don't think that there is that much of a difference. GWB was outspoken and uncompromising. The noise is just louder now that the "Tea Party" (the Koch brothers creation) has gotten large. If the republicans win the presidency, the democrats will just try to tear them down with as much force as humanly possible. That is what politics has become now, whether we like it or not. If one party does get some meaningful legislation passed, eventually the other party will come and revoke it somehow. Our two party system is very broken, and unfortunately there are no better solutions waiting; I wish I had one. America lost a tremendous amount of respect worldwide during GWB's reign; now it will continue to lose more respect as the two parties fight every little procedural detail of government.
"Why would I be excited that a Democrat won? Seriously, over the past eight years the Democrats didn't do ***!
Basically, the last eight years, I feel, the Republicans stood around farting; and the Democrats went "Ooh, let me smell it.""
As a Democrat, we need more ###holes like Alan Grayson or Schumer, no Weiners or Edwards.....
The Tea Party should be very proud of themselves. They've managed to distort facts and history to their advantage. They are taking advantage of a raging mad, disdainful, mostly ignorant, racist electorate. In many ways, the modern GOP with it's machinery of AM radio domination, a blatantly right-wing major "news" channel and an obstructive legislative body in the House....is FAR more successful than Hitler/Himmler and the Nazi party ever were.
As far as I'm concerned, these people can continue to proudly declare their ignorance of history, science, facts and logic by accepting an overtly radical religious candidate, that is Rick Perry. This man is a danger to the very fabric of what the USA stands for. His vision of America is far different than anyone can possibly imagine. He will dismantle everything the Obama administration has done and will set this country back to the 19th century because he's too primal and does not represent the change that the WORLD has become.
The GOP is like Italy...they celebrate their glorious past...and do not look forward. Rick Perry and the Tea Party will take everything the USA has accomplished and will wipe it clear with a religious agenda that resembles IRAN.
that sums it up very nicely - by the way, the Tea Party (and, yes, the GOP too) took the Nazis playbook and are using it very, very effectively.....
This has nothing to do with discrimination all it means is that perhaps individuals will have to be responsible for themselves instead of depending on big government [ ME AND MY MONEY ] TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR EVERY NEED. It's time that all the dependents get off my back. We are sick of carrying you.
I bet you grew in stature with all those illegal wars we funded with our tax dollars (assuming you even pay that much in taxes,if any). 1 in 6 now live beneath the poverty level in this Country. That is the reality.
Please state the definition of a Legal war and an Illegal one. i don't see much difference. War is war, and I've fought in the last one. Apparently the bad guys try to kill you in both of them......
Folks, remember without me there will be no more welfare checks for 2 years. Unionworkers wuld actually have to work and healthcare would be inexpensive to buy. Remeber the republicans want you to be free not me. Vote Democratic, the party of fear. I will print as much money as it takes to get reelected. Not my problem if your kids have to repay it. Im rich now and don't really care.
You got my vote. Havn't worked for years and the money keeps rolling in. God bless America
The fact is that we have very few in this country who think independently. We all have something to say here but few of us can voice our opinions without showing which side we are on. Its like picking a football team only we have all failed to recognize that we are all on the same team. Andy Reid for President!!!
However, Rick Perry is simply unethical. In exchnage for a $1.1 million dollar donation, he gave his donor the rights to build a toxic waste dump in Texas, and then he guaranteed this donor that he would change the law such that only 1 license could ever be granted for such a dump. This dump was built depsite objections from Perry;s appointed team of environmental advisors. Perry also lobbied individual state congressmen to pass legislatgion to conceal his travel expenses because they were deemed to be a political liability. They will be hidden for 18 months as a result. The guy is just a dishonest wretch.
Don't forget the pharmaceutical interests that were involved with the decision he made (on his own) to inoculate school children for cervical cancer. He had overwritten the legislative process in order to do that. ooops. He's a friend to big business that is willing to sell the rest of us out for his own career. I don't have any use for MORE of the same thing. I thought the Tea Party stood for change?
Fareed is correct. What he fails to note is that the Democratic party was taken over by extreme forces starting in 1972, and really hasn't looked back. This has driven the Republicans consistently to the right. If the Healthcare bill showed anything it was that there is no room in the Democratic party for moderates.
If the Democrats were half as extreme as you paint them, the health care bill would have been for true nationalized health care a la the UK. However, here in the real world, even a fairly innocuous public option was taken off the table. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good bout of indignation.
The Democrats are, with very few exceptions, a centrist to slightly right-leaning conservative party. We don't truly have many leftists in this nation. Our entire culture is frighteningly conservative compared to other first-world nations. The accurate term for your statement is that there is no national party – at all – for leftists.
Republicans are a frighteningly right-leaning regressive party. They have been bolting right for decades, and any semblance of sanity is demanded by the Democrats, they throw a temper tantrum and smear campaign until the Dems give in just to shut them up for a few minutes.
And our nation drifts ever rightward, into the pit of authoritarian insanity.
Perry is just not an honest guy. He ran against the tea party candidiate in the last election
I disagree with you Henry. I agree that the question wasnt tricky, but we all know Ron Paul would let the irresponsible person die. THe problem was Wolf Blitzer framed the question in a way that it made Paul look heartless. The same was tried on Milton Friedman. And if you frame the other side the right way you can make Blitzer look like he wants the government to control all aspects of our lives in order to keep us from making destructive decisions. I dont agree with Paul on everything but i do agree that government cant help us in all of the situations we get into based on dumb decisions. As for the tea party the media is definitely uplaying it, but i really think that Zakaria is right, we are going to see someone other than Romney win the nomination. I just hope its Paul, Huntsman, or Gengrich since they seem to be the ones clostest to sanity.
The Tea Party has a romantic notion of a country that never was. It has always been about hard work, shared sacrifice, and, yes, paying taxes and running up debt. You can't achieve greatness by saying, "I'm only paying for what's mine." Balancing the nation's books sounds virtuous but its pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
The Tea Party is about destroying the Democratic Party and is totally irresponsible and unconcerned about the welfare of America.... It's about power and money. The people who are the primary funders of the Tea Party are manipulating the sheep and leading them down the garden path to be sheared..... Unfortunately, all of America will be sheared with them.....
Exactly. They are not conservatives at all. By definition, they are reactionaries.
The Republican's only chance is for a moderate republican to say "I will bring the Republican's back to sanity"
Guy, I invite you to all join me as an Independent. The independents make up about 30% of the voting population now.
Perry looks like a Neanderthal in a suit in that picture.
Perry IS a Neanderthal in a suit.
Yep, very different party than the one which had laudable principles 35 years ago when I signed on. They aren't even close any more. Lost the fiscal conservatism. Have no social empathy or compassion. Riddled with evangelical intolerants. Led by this new pack of braying donkeys (with apologies to democrats for the anaolgy). The only thing worse is the laziness of most of the electorate to get to the polls.
Our system of politics was not developed to function in the manner being played by republicans. Their style will eventually lead to conflict beyond rhetoric. I cannot understand why their leadership is not concerned about where they are taking this country. It's dangerous.
because the GOP cares more about power and the money it brings than anything or anyone....
The so-called rise of Rick Perry is based on mainstream medias assertion that he is the front-runner which they back by a few of their own cooked-up polls that consist of 1000 or so targeted phone calls. Liberals have to defend Obama to the death because otherwise they will be seen as no different than conservatives that voted for Bush, or worse. Everyone needs to get over themselves and come together. Are we controlled, or in control? The 2 party system is a mask for the totalitarian corporatist agenda perpetrated by the power elite. I voted for Obama last election, and now I'm convinced only Ron Paul can help us get back to a sound, honorable republic.
The power is shifting in a very, very dangerous manner and to an extremist position.
When extremism makes inroads, the roads lead to destruction.....
Americans better pull their head out or nothing will change for the better. If the last 10 years of congress hasn't taught us anything then we are all doomed!
"The forces that represented the establishment in the Republican Party – the big corporations and the banks – are much weaker." That's hopelessly naive. You don't think corporate money (e.g., the Koch brothers) is behind the Tea Party?
The corporations have just discovered that the DNC will turn the same tricks with less public outcry.
US is 17 trillion debts in hole he Rick Perry said. Can you cut spending or raise revenue? Any plan to come out of 2 huge twin deficit: trade deficit and budget deficit has to step foward and excute for
US and the world as soon as possible.
The tea baggers are controlled by a few power hungry people, who wrenched power from the old guard in the GOP.
The new power moguls are controlled by the same corporations as the old guard and will not change the redistribution of America's wealth that started in 2001... from the middle class wage earners to the upper class profit and dividend makers.
This a perfect example of a small minority, dictating to the majority......
The tea party is just another corrupt organization that sucks the their money out of the political arena... they are the hedge-fund managers of politics, get your profits while you can and worry about the future later, if at all.
When blaming the Koch brothers for usurping the Tea Party, don't forget the role of the useful idiot attack dogs on the left.
It took an orchestrated effort by both parties for the establishment to hijack the Tea Party. The GOP pandered to them and bought up the "brand name" and the DNC set loose their army of morons to attack them. End result: the grass roots movement is dead and we get to choose between two establishment candidates....again.
If you use the term "bagger", you're a Goldman Sachs shill. You're running around insulting your neighbors so your masters on Wall Street can keep getting their bailouts.
I met a lot of really nice, smart people but also a few crack pots as well. At first we ended up in the Liberal zone where a woman started asking us what religion we were and being prejudice against us in a few different ways and called us a "tea bagger" even after I told her I'm not affiliated with the Tea Party. I was actually very surprised at how offensive this Liberal lady was, especially since they are constantly claiming the Tea Party is 'racist.' I'm not affiliated with the Tea Party, I just wanted to see the debate and promote peace and the lady just wanted to call us names instead of actually find out what we were all about.
Later after we got into the Tea Party event an old man conservative bible thumper said "Do you know what the Bible says about removing support from Israel?" to which I replied, "Do you know what Israel does to Palestinian children? They murder them and destroy their homes!" To which he looked shocked that I would stand up for Palestinians and he started blabbing away trying to justify war, to which I said, "Blessed are the peace makers" and walked away from him.
I met a lot of Ron Paul supporters and I talked to them about the things I don't agree with that Ron Paul says, and made it clear that the primary reason I support him is because hes a peace activist.
Why would this change be "bad," but the change that people presumably voted for three years ago was "good?" Progressives are so much more progressive according to their own definitions...
How is Ron Paul not someone who has been on the ticket before? He actually made it ON the presidential ballot before and has been in the Primary before as well.... but hey the media will use the names of who the media enjoys, not the ones who fit their explanations!
So instead of being Satan, like all of the other GOP candidates, he's Satan 2.0. Now I get it.
We've just had a catastrophic global financial melt down due to a lack of regulation of wall street (i.e. make any sort of wild investment vehicle you want), and the tea party darlings all are calling for even less regulation. How insane is that? The folks out at the grass roots level may believe its all good and is helping to cut the size of government, but the actual power behind the movement (e.g. the Kock Brothers) is just looking for less oversight to transfer more money from the poor to the rich.
This is democracy in action. The people, not cooperations, are in control once more. So why the whining. isn't this how it should be. What are the democrats doing to attract t/partiers. Reagan would have been the t/party's candidate. So in choosing a candidate we can be assured that the one endorsed by the t/party will be great for this country as Reagan was.
Reagan would have been drummed out of any Tea Party rally as a liberal. Look at what the man actually did, not what the mythology says he did.
He granted AMNESTY to 3 Million Illegal Aliens, tripled the Gross Federal Debt, from $900 billion to $2.7 trillion. He increased the size of the Federal Government, bailed out Social Security to the tune of $165 Billion (1983 dollars) and even expanded Medicare, all the while raising payroll taxes. He TALKED about smaller government, and lowered taxes (for the rich), made us all misty-eyed about 'morning in america' then spent more money than the prior three Presidents combined!
So the money garnered from the Koch brothers, NewsCorp and the financial sector is all benign? Yeah, the people, what people, the 20% of Americans that were duped into this crap?
You people even lie to yourselves...... talk about head in the sand, pie in the sky, everything was better in the 50's mentality.....
Keep telling yourself that bit of nonsense. The Tea Partiers are led by corporations. Your glorious "grass roots" leaders are led by the billionaires and lobbyists who simply want to destroy any protections to keep some semblance of a middle class.
Tea Partiers would never have elected Reagan. In many respects, Reagan was more liberal than Obama is. He was more of an "evil socialist" than Obama is. And Reagan was incredibly pro-big government.
What are the Dems doing to attract Tea Partiers? Why on earth would they want to attract selfish, "me only" nutjobs who actively are trying to destroy the fabric of this nation?
Fareed, as a foreigner born in India and raised as a Muslim, you kow so little about this coutnry. Maybe you should be reporting out of Mumbia. Here is an interesting comment: The forces that represented the establishment in the Republican Party – the big corporations and the banks – are much weaker. The Republican Party has won not by votes from big corporations or banks but by a goup of middle of the road, conservative Americans, formerally known as the Moral Majority that swept Nixon in two times and also Reagan and Bush. Wake up and smell the coffee, the winds of change are not change at all they are the summer breeze that has blown since the beginning of our Republic. Hey, doofus, read a book about this country!
How do you know he is a muslim? Might very well be a Hindu or something else.
I don't know what Zakaria is, but he was born in India of Muslim parents. He seems determined to have us all believe that the US is in decline and would probably favor a parliamentary system over our own. I also believe he's anti-Israel. I personally have little use for him but this is America and he's doing verfy well.
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
...they're coming to take you away, haha
With the influences from groups like the Christian conservatives and the Tea Party and not big business and big money, will the Republicans become the American Taliban?
Hanes: The Tea Party and the Christian Conservatives dancing to the tune of big business perfectly. Are either of these groups calling for an end to special tax breaks? Are not both groups calling for less regulation and government oversight? Are not both calling for less mandatory health care? Zakaria may be correct that the traditional republican candidates are being outdone by the new comers, but big business interests are still getting just what they want.
The poor are going to get poorer, and the rich will get richer.
Perry is just Romney with a drawl.
The Tea Party has been digested by the RNC.
Rick Perry has no chance at a national election. He has a very bad track record in Texas and I dont think his fake "accent" is going to play well on the national stage. Can you really see him beating Obama in a debate? Really? Really? Not to mention Obama has the ace of spades in his deck. If he feels that Perry is going to give him a real run for his money all he has to do is put Hillary on the ticket with him and "boom:" you just energized the Dems base and a lot of the Independants. ......Look for an Obama/Clinton ticket in 2012 and a Clinton/-- ticket in 2016.
The tea party is not taking over the Republican party. The abomination was created by the Republican party for two reasons #1 to distract America from the devastating job during bush and the enduring conservative Congress.#2 they needed to motivate there base after getting there a$$ whooped in 2006 and 2008 elections.
Tea parties...are for little girls with imaginary friends.
Hey, I _have_ a little girl with an imaginary friend.
nowadays they're for fiscal conservatives, informed independents, and anyone who understands that the DIMS have made things MUCH worse!!! OBAMANOS!!!
I'll spiel. The Tea Party is no more than its moneyed interests. It amounts to a ploy to harden the Republican Party as much as it can while not drastically losing the electorate. We're not going to see Rick Perry nominated; Mitt Romney will be. Instead, the Tea Party is one more tool of corporate interests working to insure the Republican Party falls in line. Rick Perry exists to make Mitt Romney bend even further right than he already does: that's Perry's one and only function.
please keep calling the tea party movement racists and hard right-wingers!!! you just lead more and more independents, such as myself, straight to the REPUBLICAN party come 2012!!! OBAMANOS!!!
I don't actually think the TP is motivated primarily by racism. I think there are racists among them, but I believe they're a minority. Fiscally, however, the TP takes the hard right-wing position. Deny it all you want, most people see the truth for what it is.
Tea Party and right-wing influence is on the rise within the GOP. First came the Arab Spring. Now we’ll see the Spring of Ignorance.
Messiah supporters eating their kishkas! I just love it!
If the baggers ever do manage to take over the government and gut a social safety net that millions of people have paid into all their lives in favor of their corporate overlords, war profiteers and their goddess, Ayn Rand, it will result in civil disorder that will make the 1960s look like a garden party, perhaps even verging one a second revolution. In the words of Bush the Worst: 'BRING IT ON!"
Mustang95... You are one stupid SOB.
You people have no idea what's waiting for you with Rick Perry. I've watched his metamorphosis here in Texas since the very beginning. I thought he was the most dangerous man in American politics 12 yrs ago and now the worst is happening. He is an opportunist and a vacant empty vessel who's been filled by BIG BUSINESS with his ideology of de-regulation, hardline anti-corporate/wealthy taxation and "job creators". Folks – this guy doesn't give a s**t about the people. He is bought and paid for by corporate interests PERIOD! And don't buy the BS about the "Texas economic miracle." Our state is a mess of unpaid firefighters, thousands of laid off teachers, an embarrassment of an educational system anda huge class of working poor. Elect Rick Perry? Rip America. Oh and BTW ... National election-wise I was GOP for the last 30 yrs. Until now.
perhaps, but he certainly is better than obongo the economic disaster president!!!
OBAMANOS!!!
obongo? Seriously? I take back what I said a few posts up about racism in the TP.
"Obongo"??? Seriously? How can anyone claim the Tea Party isn't a bunch of knuckle dragging neanderthals when we hear this kind of racist drivel come from Obama's detractors? Don't like the man's economic performance? I'm not thrilled with it either but to resort to racist vulgarity just puts you in the Deliverance league. I weep for our future with idiots like you casting votes.
I agree with you,and people the students will be very happy because he will remove all teachers so students have no quizzes,no home projects,no home works.. .
We need a new party to represent all of us disaffected Republicans who reject the extremism of the Tea Party and the religiosity that infects the Reupblican establishment. There was a time when having a strong military had nothing to do with 'crusades', and having a responsible fiscal policy did not mean being isolationist and pretending that the government can run without tax income. Where is MY party?
Bec215, I respect that old party even though I don't belong to it. Someone like Lindsay Graham is occasionally sincere and is not reflexively an obstructionist like most of his party is. Graham spoke the words, "I support the President," during the Egyptian revolution. Time was when it was perfectly normal for Democrats and Republicans to frequently support a President's positions, whichever party the President represented, and Graham sometimes shows that kind of class.
Amen.
Rick Perry apparently belongs to this bizarre Dominionism Apostolic Reformation sect of christianity. Listen to Terry Gross' interview on NPR Fresh Air, very revealing.
What most of you do not understand is what the TEA Party is! It use to be called the silent majority. Not it is no longer silent. That is why you libbies are losing elections.
They're not the majority by any means. They're a minority party of right-wing extremists. The majority of the country has an negative opinion of the Tea Party.
Zakaria with his ultra-leftist, Indian-Muslim bias is the last person who should be analyzing the GOP. I'm so incredibly tired of this political correctness guru CNN has "blessed us "with. That's like Mao analyzing the intricacies of capitalism.
Maybe he should focus on the mayhem his "peace loving" religion has brought to his home country of India instead? I'm born and raised in Europe and have seen how muslim immigrants refuse to integrate and terrorize the local population. It breeds hate as seen with the Norwegian neo-nazi thug and murderer and although what he did is inexcusable, where is the outrage over the harm this massive Muslim influx brings to the western nations? Why does everything have to be so politically correct? Why are we even listening to the likes of Zakaria?
Maybe he should spend his preaching energy on the Muslim murderers and criminals instead? Of course, that would be politically incorrect so he'll keep attacking the conservatives with his "observations".
"Reluctant to compromise?" Look after your own trash Fareed and you'll find the least compromise-willing coalition in the whole world, the leftists and the islamists united to promote a "dialogue", what a joke you all are.
I dare you to show any sort of pro-Muslim bias in Zakaria's reporting. He has always been extremely critical of Islamic extremism. Where do you get that from ... his name??
"... big corporations and the banks – are much weaker. The forces that are strong today are Christian conservatives, libertarian activists and other more diverse, populist groups."
Fareed,
The Republican Party is owned and operated by business. The TP and Christian Republicans are on board. They all want a U.S. government of business, by business, and for business. Their coequal priority is helping the rich and big corporations pay no taxes while screaming they're too high. Waving flags does not make a patriot.
You must know that I rarely read comments as it would eventually lead me to lose all faith in humanity.
But there is a massive problem here in America. Some of these posts are perfect indicators of that. Bill Clinton was on CNN a short while ago and he said one of the most accurate statements to describe the politics of the day. He said, "We have entered an era of fact free politics."
To see this in action all anyone needs to do is read some of the posts here on this page. People will believe whatever they want regardless of fact. If a fact does not fit their beliefs they either ignore it or make something else up to support their belief system. Just take a look at some of the GOP candidates from the midterm elections and for the run for presidency. I will not bother citing any examples here. It would be a waste of time. Most people here know what I am speaking of. Other will not care to hear any opinion to the contrary. Some will believe everything any candidate says and defend that fiction wholeheartedly.Some know to look deeper into the truth.
So, where is the problem? The answer is simple. People are simply not willing to listen to anyone that disagrees with them. No middle ground. No effort to find one. And there is one other thing. This division will destroy America faster than anything that can be done by terrorists. Or by the perceived myth that government is out to destroy us. Meaning those who mention the Obama administration is bent of the destruction of the union.
The more we argue, the more we divide, the more we will break ourselves. We are all Americans after all. People forget that. All born here, all who have been born overseas and became citizens are indeed Americans. We should be united to better our nation. But we are not. That is the problem.
But how do you fix the problem? We have to stand up for reason and decency one to another from the ground up. The schools are trying. Workplaces are trying. It should be demanded that the government does as well. Remember the empty promises after the Arizona shooting? We should hold their feet to the fire to act civily and respectfully.
I would love to hold them to standards. But they simply will not hold the standards themselves. Cannot force ethics on those who so willingly abuse them. Will there be better candidates? I do not know.
didn't Bill Clinton himself usher in that era of "fact-free" politics when he said "that depends on what the definition if 'is' is." ????????? You sir, are an idiot.
I find it interesting the insults that fly around on these comments. As if someone is thinking I would be upset at it. I am not. The insults of someone who slings them, all safe, behind their keyboards does not matter. Not in the slightest. I wonder if you would say that to my face if we were sitting together discussing political difference. Maybe you would. Maybe you would not. I am thinking you would not. Nor would I call you an idiot for having a different opinion.
But here is the thing. I agree with you about Clinton and his definition of "is". That was a silly piece of presidential history. With that, still people are quick to insult. Only proving my point that, for some, disagreement is dissension. Agreement is not an option. My way or no way. That is not the way of Americans. Are we not better? No, I think, we are evidently not.
Maybe with these nut candidates, on both sides, we are getting exactly what we deserve.
Until we can come together, for the betterment of America, we are divided. Simple as that. People are simply not willing to listen to anyone these days. And that is our downfall.
We can only hope it is being led by those unwilling to compromise our grand children's futures for a few perks and votes today.
We had the Stone Age....We had the dark ages........We had the age of Aquarius....NOW, we have entered into the age of ignorance! the most uninformed, simple minded, easily manipulated people amongst us (the tea party) have been herded together, much like the sheep they claim to be, by the 3rd and 4th richest men in the country (the Koch Brothers) and Rupert Murdoch (Owner Fox news) to do thy bidding. These people have figured out that if they start a sentence with Christian and end it with God the content of that sentence is irrelevant. These ignorant people will believe ANYTHING that they say! Facts mean nothing to these people! American Al-Qaeda??? I believe so.....
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Mohandas Gandhi
Blu,
Truer words have never been spoken. I, too love Christ. I follow his teachings. I am so confused by Christians. I truly do not like them.
American Christians have turned to the dark side.
"If history is the guide, this means the Republican Party will nominate Mitt Romney for president"- The GOP has never nominated a Mormon, and Mike Huckabee won the last Iowa Straw poll in 2008, not John McCain. Your logic is flawed, therefore I do not trust your opinion on this matter. Good day sir!
"It would not matter that the Republican establishment was behind Romney because that establishment no longer controls much."
Except for all those billions of dollars that the Christian country folk do not have...look at Perry he is a man of modest means that gained access to wealth and power, and now stands in direct conflict with that very same power at the national level. Look at Fox News and their very hands-off approach to covering Perry. Same with the Wall Street Journal. That shows you Perry does not have a real chance, but may be carried as a VP to gain support of his followers. I mean, the chances of a double Mormon ticket for the GOP are infinitesimal.
I think the point of this article is off the mark. Just as Michelle Bachmann was propelled by the Tea Party to rise above some other GOP candidates only to fad as the core of the GOP supporters again asserted its support for the more moderate Romney, the same is happening with Rick Perry. Tea Party enthusiasm is propelling Perry to the front for a short period. Once the moderates in the GOP realize his extreme leanings they will again move back to the center.
But this issue does shed light on a wider phenomenon within the entire left/right spectrum of politics within the United States. If the Republican Party shifts further right there is a void in the center that will be filled by a third party. This is already evidenced and has been for the past few election cycles by the fact that it isn't the Demarcates or Republicans that in the end elect a president to the White House but the center (Independent) voter that swings the election in the favor of the candidate put forward by the two parties.
When was the last time the President of the United States had an overwhelming mandate from the American people?
Reagans second election which he won 48 states.
Actually, Reagan carried 49 states. Mondale only carried DC and his home state of Minnesota. Too bad. We sure would have been a lot better off with Mondale. Reagan was a placeholder President who was all talk and no accomplishments. He only did two things:
1. Double the national debt.
2. Invade Grenada
I wonder if he would have been elected if he told the voters that he would be the first president in history to double the national debt in peacetime.
Let's do not forget Reagan also brought down the former Soviet Union. Reagan is one of our greatest presidents.
Regarding the Mondale comment; Fritz being elected president would have been more like Obama being president, messed up.
Yes, Regan did doulble the national debt for a short time. That was because Jimmy Carter really screwed up the economy. The economy was so messed up, the three news anchors would anounce the "misery index" numbers for the week. Home mortgages were at 13% – 21%. It appeared the USA was lost until Reagan took office and straightened things out.
Saint Reagan also raised taxes when he needed to. As a liberal I disagree with Reagan about a lot of things, but he knew when it was time to compromise to get things done. These days, Grover Norquist would be arm-wrestling Michelle Bachman for the honor of throwing him out of the party on his backside.
Saint Reagan also raised taxes when he needed to. These days, Grover Norquist would be arm-wrestling Michelle Bachman for the honor of throwing him out of the party on his backside.
Who really believes that the Republicans can make this country better than the worst they did before? This is like cheering for the losing team. Ever cheered and got on a teams bandwagon that you knew you would make the dance but lose that game and you knew that your team don't have a clue as to how to present a plan to victory. Okay, so let the Republicans at it and then what....Ralph Nader....
Aaaagh! I can't handle the news anymore. It's soooo expensive to simply live a decent life. All the best things are costly, when they really should be free. Now, people are being hijacked by credit ratings–so much that it's now more difficult than ever to find a job?
The Tea Party is the new GOP. If the new face is uncompromising, ideological, religous, anti-tax zealots then I won't be supporting. them. My parents were Republicans, however, today they would be considered liberals and Rino's since they would not pass the far right wing litmus test.
Fareed is a globalist, CFR member and Bilderburg attendee. I trust no word that comes out of this mans mouth.
The teaparty people are little people, with little ideas, and a lack of education. They want to bring this great nation down to their level. Sometimes I wonder if they have been infiltrated with terriorists.
Republicans are lieingest people on the planet. Perry has done nothing but lie since I can remember and the ultra stupe Romney is blaming Obama for jobs lost in 2007 and 2008, before Obama was EVEN ELECTED!!!!
Yes the GOP is going for dumber candidates, ala George Bush, all because the GOP has been hijacked by the religious extremists. So anyone claiming to talk to God on a regular basis (which is really a mental health issue) has a great chance of being nominated as a GOP candidate.
There is no hope. The next pres will probably be Perry. Nothing will improve... unless the vast majority of investors (GOP mostly) suddenly decide that a GOP win will greatly favor economic growth... which could make it a self fulfilling belief. ...because of the "confidence they are looking for and the wealthy will become more wealthy. ... and the middle class (all of us) will be worse off again. Times need to get so bad that USA becomes lowest cost manufacturer.
And while the Republican Party changed the last 50 years, so to the Democrat Party, the unions and the media. Over time they went from left leaning to be at least in their leadership positions, Socialist Marxist, leading the country down a path far removed from our founders. The media, with a constant drumbeat of propaganda, Union, and political leadership pushing a socialist agenda that has scared the hell out of a lot of people, finally, including many Deomocrats. There lies the problem for the Dems, you can call yourself Progressive and think you have fooled people, but a socialist is a socialist reagardless of a name change, and America will not stand for that. Socialism doesn't work, never has and never will. Sounds great in theory, redistribute to the less fortunate, a utopian society. Problem is. It does not take into account human nature. The haves get tired of working and giving to the have nots and that won't change. America has awakened to that now and the Dem leadership is in trouble because of it.
Party want crazy people. Perry crazy. We want Perry. See? Is logical.
I agree, the GOP is moving from being a people's party to a special interests party non-compromising, non caring what American people actually want..... This is what Obama was saying all along ... OBAMA 2012!!!
"I agree, the GOP is moving from being a people's party to a special interests party non-compromising, non caring what American people actually want..... This is what Obama was saying all along ... OBAMA 2012!!!"
You got it exactly backwards and if what you say is true then you should be joining.... the GOP is becoming a peoples party where it was (and still is) a party of pure special interest and pandering, just like the current democrat party. The GOP is being taken over from the inside by people who want nothing but the government to leave them alone, I guess you could cal lthat a special interest but not with todays meaning of that phrase.
Yet another piece of fearmongering from CNN's resident US hater. The US does not want to become the UK, does not want to become anything that remembles Europe. If you are going to continue to ingore the people and just keep throwing out propaganda go right ahead. The GOP has not morphed into a party of radicals or extremists. This is simply just smoke that will thrown out constantly from now till Nov 2012 in a desperate effort to save a presidency that was sunk a year ago. If you really look into Rick Perry you will see something a bit different than a right win nutjob but let us not let facts get in the way of a good Zakaria rant where he constantly tries to get this country to believe it needs to be changed. The Tea Party will not have any say in the elections. They, like the pro left vote party line no matter what. The middle like myself will have the final say. In fact the person who will right us won't be in office till 2017. His name is Andrew Cuomo. I just hope something is left by then.
Let me explain something to you, Zakaria. For some reason people like you - to use your own phraseology - believe that the ultimate good lives inside the word "compromise". You must think that this society is just the cat's meow. Nothing could be finer, right? Well, that is not how I see it, or millions of others just like me see it. We see a society and culture that has been wrenched and dragged away from that which was envisioned by the Founders. And that wrenching and dragging was made possible by - drum roll, please - Compromise. You see, when a liberal compromises, all is well. He gets half of what he wanted. When a Conservative compromises, he gives up twice what he was willing to give up. So, over time, the lefties win...All of this wonderful serenity we have now is due to Compromise. No...we do not want anymore Compromise. Get it!
The founders were alive over 200 years ago. Times have changed since then, and thank God for that. If you and your TP buddies try to drag my country and culture back to 1800, you'll have a fight on your hands. My ancestors struggled too hard for me to just give it up.
Why oh why do people go on about the founding fathers?? It' so crazy that people feel that the ideas a bunch of men had over 200 years ago when life was completely difference apply today. It simply idiotic!
When a liberal compromises, he wins 4/3rds of the time, while when a conservative compromises, he wins 4/6th of the time, but wins 67% more 3/5ths of the time. So the issue is not that compromise favors the meek, the problem is that you need to understand the issue at hand to compromise. Like my father used to say, you can fool 47.5% of the people 2/3rds of the time, but more likely you can fool 76.4% of the people 27% of the time.
Since when is Rick (former democrat and Gore campaigner) Perry an outsider, anti-establishment, pro-liberty guy???? Where do you guys come up with this stuff?
Help Tea Party people with common sense, Lord. We pray to you not to let the ego of GOP and Tea party ruin the nationhood of USA. We cannot afford to have war or job drain anymore due to outsourcing of manufacturing to China and services to India anymore. The US corporations should be paying outsourcing tax for not using domestic labor and services in this grave times of unemployment and low economic activity. Oil subsidies should be expired by executive order and all refiners and no tax paying corporations having business in excess of 10 billion dollars of revenue must be audited mandatorily. This is required to boost the revenue and economic activity in USA. Over regulation excuse is not acceptable for businesses with large revenues and zero taxes. We as nation cannot afford to have fiscal deficit of 3 trillion by Rick perry's first term and 10 trillion by 2020, with national debt at 50 trillion. GOP has no plan, idea or options besides taking away poor mans social security and medicare and medicaid. The party that represents elites on name of God can ruin USA on name of Jesus Christ.
Unfortunately the people you are trying to reach out to are more concerned about the following:
Abortion
Gay Marriage
Immigration (which really means don't want anymore Hispanics in my town)
Don't assume that the person who is the front runner over six months before the convention will be the eventual nominee.
The mighty can fall pretty hard.
With Perry's god crap, it is no wonder why the civilized world is getting less and less comfortable with America. Bush was bad enough, now Perry. If this guy is elected, it will be the end chapter for American influence in the world and a definite proof that the US is a failed society. And no one will ever miss us.
" it will be the end chapter for American influence in the world "
We can all hope this becomes the case.... Americas influence in the world over the last 100 or so years has been pretty damn negative..... although Rick Perry wouldn't do anything to change what we've been doing for the last 100 years so I don't see how your equation computes.
Don't let the plan fool you all, Rick Perry is related to Bush and Queen Elizabeth just like the rest. He is NOT an outsider. You all are just giving the hidden hand credit for thinking he is a legit and all powerful outsider.
I live in the deep south and unfortunately a lot of people around here make political decisions based on their prejudices rather than what's economically best for the country or even themselves. Candidates like Perry know this, and talk the language these people want to hear. People allow themselves to be manipulated.
@ InVT – So, you've been to Texas have you. You've seen first hand that everyone is on welfare, food stamps, and holds minumum wage jobs? Your an idiot. I live in Texas and have my whole life. I'm not really a republican or democrat and I have no idea who I will vote for but were doing pretty good as are alot of people I know. We paid about $1600 in property taxes last year, I'm thinking you paid five times that in Vermont. Talk about a joke of a state, you didn't even want to initiate Jessicas Laws, and you think were backwards down here, get a clue dude. I'm no fan of Rick Perry but I will tell you one thing, the entire time, it the height of the recession, you had trouble finding parking spots in the mall and forget about getting a table at a restaraunt on a Saturday night. Texas isn't perfect, we have problems, but were in a heck of a lot better shape than most of the rest of the country.
I for one don't have a lot of faith in either party. The only one that acts like an adult is the President who has our interest at heart. He has little children, so he is more understanding to what they will face in years to come.
funny how he left out reagan...liberals new hero and go to guy who asspoused all sorts of liberal policy. you progressives are pathetic and will twist and turn anything to you advantage if would get you a couple votes.
The Reagan Administration was a sort of placeholder Presidency. Only two things happened:
1. We invaded Grenada.
2. Reagan was the first president in history to double the national debt in peacetime.
Good
This is total ignorance. The fact is that everyone running for office knows we are going back into the same economic cycle that gave us the panic of 1893, the great depression, etc. 2013-2017 is going to be a terrible mess and everyone in power knows it. So put up someone like Perry (most likely to be the VP nod) as a scapegoat, especially if he becomes POTUS. When it all comes crashing down the GOP can point to him as not being who they thought he was and not representing GOP values. For someone that proclaimed he was not going to be running for the office the No Agenda Show said he'd run for POTUS over a year ago and laid out EXACTLY how... and they've been 100% correct so far. The media is so predictable. But it's cool that Zakaria got his talking points from his visit with Obama this week. Everyone is on the move to push Perry to the top. I mean, Obama isn't going to run. Going to need someone to take the fall when it all falls apart.
This guy is so dumb he can't figure out if he should use his hand or toilet paper
The only shovel ready thing that Obama has got is the Economy - it's dead as a doornail and ready for burial.
After Obama gets beat in a land slide, Rick Perry or Mitt Romney will just have to resurrect it ....
this is new?
When Liberal get in power, then the media makes it look like the convervative are scared. Vice versa. Since when we do not give importance to the will of the people. If people are tired and weary in the direction the current administration is heading, let the people elect convervative Govt. to bring sanity and moral values to this country.
To believe only one party represents morality is so naive and shows immature thinking!
Once again the media is wrong! New face of the party is RON PAUL!!!!!!! Ron Paul's voters will not vote for anyone else either we are with him start to finish! So the GOP better wake up and realize this, if not the party will split! Then we will have no chance of beating Obama! I suggest before you make bold statements like this you don't look at what the media is presenting you with but what is actualy happening on the internet and grassroots because Mr. Paul has the biggest support no doubt. RON PAUL 2012
So basically, a Governor of Texas much like George W. Bush running for President is going to prove that the Republican Party has changed?...
The republicans have no interest in helping to improve the economy; it's their one bargaining chip in the coming election and they're not about to surrender it, regardless of the continuing suffering they cause the American people. Their "concern" with the national debt is nothing but cheap-shot political leveraging in hopes of weakening the Obama presidency; no more, no less. Their willingness (eagerness, actually) to allow the country to default on its debts aptly demonstrates what their real concerns are!
The 3-1 Democratic New York 9th made it official last night. Barack Obama is a lame duck President. People are sick of Obama. Pee Wee Herman could beat Obama with "one hand tied behind his back."
No, I think that was mainly down to Jewish residents not liking his policy towards Israel. I wouldn't get too complacent based on that result.
Zakaria...the great Obama apologist!
Smart and provocative.
I don't trust Farhud Zakaria.
Fareed, you are very intelligent and tactful. The GOP has been taken over by ignorant, white trash who claim they want to dismantle the government and destroy all safety nets. End of sotry.
It must have been painful for Mr. Zakaria to write this.
I don't think anyone has any idea what is going on, including me. The country is in the crapper and all people can do is blame someone else. We have become a nation of idiots, governed by idiots. This is the New World Order!
The banks and Corporations are WEAKER???? That's news to me...aren't corporations people now??? Didn't the baks get the bailouts??? I'm miffed!!
The banks and Corporations are WEAKER???? That's news to me...aren't corporations people now??? Didn't the banks get the bailouts??? I'm miffed!!
teh republican led-congress has the lowest poll numbers in history...are you that dilusional?
The congress isnt led by republicans, the house is... The senate is controlled by Democrats... You're an idiot!
I dreamed that I was going to be the moderator of the Republican candidate’s debate ...
Gov. Perry, you are wearing a $3,000 suit, $2,500 cowboy boots, and a $300 haircut. You dye your hair the same color that Ronald Reagan dyed his. Doesn't that seem rather vain and shallow to you? Are you sure you have the character it takes to be president? What kind of Texan is such a pretty-boy clothes horse?
Rep. Bachman, many Americans have told me that the thought of you sitting behind the same desk where FDR, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson sat makes them want to puke. What is your reaction to that?
Rep. Paul, do you have anything to say but the same Libertarian fairy tales that you have been repeating for decades? No? OK, OK, we’ve heard it all before … next candidate ...
Mr. Cain, how can a Black man be a Conservative? Conservatives – to the man – opposed anti-lynching laws, voting rights laws, anti-segregation laws, anti-discrimination laws, equal hiring laws, and equal pay laws. If those Conservatives had had their way, you would not have been CEO of Godfather's Pizza, you would be delivering pizza. If those Conservatives had had their way, you would not be running for president. In fact, you would not even be allowed to VOTE on election day. My question to you is this: What the hell is WRONG with you?
Gov. Romney and Gov. Huntsman, are you both still Mormons? Yes? Then there is no point in you running for the Republican nomination. Only Evangelicals are allowed here. Next candidate...
Speaker Gingrich, the way you treated your dying wife makes all American sick. You were sleeping with your mistress while you were making speeches condemning President Clinton for spending quality time with Monica Lewenski. You get off this stage and out of this auditorium or I'm going to horse whip you on national TV. As you can see, I brought a horse whip for the occasion. Now you better start running little man.
It was such a nice dream...
Say it brother/ sister.
El Flaco, that was amazing! You could make a bundle on late night tv!
I turn to Zakaria for all life's answers. If he doesn't like the GOP, then I don't either.
I'm having a pizza party/animal sacrifice tonight in Zakaria's honor. Please be there at 6pm and bring any spare pets you might have.
"The forces that represented the establishment in the Republican Party – the big corporations and the banks – are much weaker. The forces that are strong today are Christian conservatives, libertarian activists and other more diverse, populist groups." .....................................If you look below the surface you will find the corporations financing these right wing "populists." Also, a word is missing. The word race. How many Blacks are in the Tea Party?
You mean the Left Wing Media, Mr. Zakaria.
He doesn't like in the world of make-believe that you do. So clearly, he did not mean the Left Wing Media.
When zakaria rejected the honor given to him by israel I lost all respect for him and his show. By the way jahadist may be winning the ideological warefare?
I don't agree with this analysis. I think Perry is "in" because some big money people control the perception of what makes for Republican grassroots. They've anointed Perry because he represents what they want.
It may signal a change in who gets nominated to run for president but it does not mean that Washington culture, especially the way Congress operates, will be changed significantly. 150+ years of Demos and Repubs ruling TOGETHER. It is a two party system that must work together to get things done. That's the reality. All the rhetoric about change is just that. Americans need to wake up and realize this. They are kidding themselves to think that real change will occur.
Rick Perry is not a businessman. We need a businessman and a LEADER, someone who knows economics and knows how to turn impossible situations into surpluses and successes, to tackle the real problems of this country now. That's Mitt Romney, plain and simple. He taught Meg Whitman what she needed to know to create 8,800 percent growth at eBay. He turned around the legacy of the Winter Olympics. He made Massachusetts flush at a time when other states began foundering. We don't need another knee-jerk extremist candidate like Perry. We need a leader who knows business to save this country from economic ruin. Read the book "Multipliers," p. 33-37. Then you'll know why Romney's the best man for the job at this time.
Just one question – why people did not say a thing when Bush gave away $1T without balancing with something like less spending in other areas or closing down Oil company give away. And prescription drug benefit without funding it?
People loved getting money without thinking how much it would cost us later. Today we are paying price.
Jobs went to China and India big companies loved big profits but now we all(except big companies – they are laying
off here in the US which they always love in the name managing the budget) saying where are the jobs?
People love present as long as it is good – do not think of the future – and now that future is here.
Housing market is another thing – people loved buying house or housing not thinking how they would pay for it.
Because the people who voted for Bush are both ignorant and blind. It's like there are 2 completely different types of humans on this planet who have 2 completely different personalities as to what's right and wrong.
I literally think half of the American population thinks being bankrupt and/or in poverty is status quo and it's acceptable. Some may even think it's the good life as to some divine purpose at a later date. There is really no way in swaying their way of thinking, so you just let them go and die off in their own self pity
If Rick Perry becomes POTUS does that mean we will be able to secede from the United States? I hope so!
Let's see-we just got the most liberal member of the senate as president and he is a left-wing disaster. why do you express the concern that the "new" republicans will be more extreme and uncompromising. did you have the same concern about the amateur now running our country? As far as these new guys being less concerned about what the you and the rest of the liberal media circus think? I say, thank God for that!
By all means, keep spreading the lie that Obama is a liberal.
Guys (by which I mean Dems and sensible conservatives) we need to get together and deal a deathblow against the insane, evil leaders of the Tea Party/GOP.
Perry is making plans for adding at least 14 million new minimun wage jobs and opening new expanding cemetaries for the poor that cannot afford health insurance.
Read MY Lips, NO NEW Texans!
dude...people said A LOT of things...where were you?
Fareed is the one who promoted S. Hussein in Iraq. He thought it was wise (it;s in print...check out :The Creature from Jeckel Isle"). He is a CFR ass kissing schmuck financed by David Rock-my-penis. NWO schmuck. Now we have this idiot promoting something else. Hey, Fareed, I got a ditch that needs to be dug.....Wanna do it? Can you do it? Will you do it?....Didn't think so......Pompass ass....
After a rapid rise, it is going to be a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOng fall for TRick Pony Perry. I will certainly enjoy watching that fall.
I predict Perry either slugs another candidate or pulls his gun during a debate. Any takers?
I hope the "tea party"," christian", "libertarian", IOW republican, racist, theocratic party wins the presidency _and_ both houses next year. It will only hasten the much needed fall of the NotEvenRemotely United States. Then we can just break off into our newly formed countries, stop all the nonsense and actually become relatively functional and productive members of the world. We're seriously a pathetic people and we should all be tremendously embarrassed.
While I surely agree that the GOP is moving farther to the right due to Tea Party activism, and partly as a response to Obama's left of center policies, what I don't agree with is the characterization of Rick Perry as the face of this extreme right.
Perry had been a democrat in the past and many people believe he still retains that liberal inner core. His stance on illegals is much more lenient than that of many democrats', and also a lot of his taunted job growth credentials come from an expansion in govt. programs (leaving aside the oil industry).
So while a Michelle Bachman or Gingrich may represent the extreme right wing, the GOP may not be ready to nominate such polarising figures who can't garner the crucial independent votes (like mine!).
If Perry and Romney are the best GOP has to offer, Election 2012 will be an easy win for the democrats... I bid it willl be 60% to 40% result ... OBAMA 2012!!!
Fareed sounds surprised the guy who shouts his Jesus credentials the most is the most popular on the conservative right. The far right is where the primary votes will come from. Talk to me when the independents rally to this guy in the presidential election.
Zarkaria knows as much about American History as my 4 yr old. Kennedy an outsider? Right, Fareed....goodness
I see the "Obama is a moderate" crowd is out today. Right, Obama , a moderate, I'd hate to see their idea of a left winger. Obama is the consummate leftist elitist and he is quite stuck on himself.
As for Perry, goodness the name calling has really started among the "Huffington Post is God " crowd. I am Republican and am supporting Romney – save the social issues for the debating clubs, what we need is someone with vision and someone who is accomplished when it comes to economic matters. Obama sure doesn't have a clue.
But for those of you who call Perry a Neanderthal in a suit I have this for you. At least there is SOMONE in the suit. We have no one now, the suit is empty.
Jeff:
I kind of agree with you.
Mr. Zakaria has this uncanny "DESIRE" to stay in the limelight and showcase his all round credentials by trying to comment on everything under the sun. He has evolved his style of "PROPHESIZING’ by "merely" stating the obvious by sewing & weaving already well known facts/trends....something that's a no brainer to majority of informed Americans!
A little bit of analysis of Mr. Zakaria’s writings reveals his immense ability to bring in his passionate issue of propping up Islamic causes, and trashing America & the west in any discussion. In that quest he bashes up anyone/anything that comes in the way – notably America, America’s freedoms, and America’s fairness, albeit…..…so covertly (pretending to be an American patriot!) that, most gullible readers can’t even decipher!
This also has a long way to go in his quest for netting a coveted public psoition such as the US Secretary state to carry forward his agenda. No wonder during the 2004 election a web site appeared out of nowhere urging the next US president to appoint him as the next US Secretray of State. Mr. Zakaria himself gave credence to that by saying in an interview for the New Yorker (?) that his friends wanted him to be a US Sec.of State!
So what Americans are increasingly aware is that there are a lot of motivations behind Mr. Zakaria's writings/utterings!
Zakaria is smarter and much better educated than you and I are, amit.He knows a lot of things you don't know and have never imagined. You dismiss his clear-minded analysis to your own detriment. Learn from him instead. You Conservatives believe that Conservative propaganda is some sort of high wisdom that enables you to understand every political and economic issue, but the truth is that Conservatism is a fraud and you are a victim. You have been brainwashed.
I read that up to 90% of the people in some Islamic countries believe that the 9/11 attacks were a Jewish plot and that the pilots of those planes were Jews disguised as Arabs. That is what all of their newspapers and TV commenters were saying and they simply believe what everyone tells them – like you.
GOP claims that all they want is to get government out of our lifes.
Fact is:
1) Bush regime was so much involved in our lifes that they were even legally spying on American citizens, 2) Nixon was installing spying devices in Democratic Party location to spy on them...
3) GOP IS JUST A DICTATORSHIP THAT WE AMERICANS DONT WANT TO SEE ANYMORE.
4) Bush/Chaney will be remembered to be the last GOP presidency/dictatorship in US history...
Praise Jesus, and pass the ammunition! Yeeeeeee haaaaaaaar!
YIKES! We're in big trouble. Perry hates science, hates dems (although he used to be one), hates tolerance of any kind, hates education, hates compromose, etc... But loves those good ole' boys from Texas, and really loves killin' folks.
I guess we'll see if the nation is ready for another radical right wing corporatist (Perry) who at least tells everyone what he is all about. That is if there are enough teapublicans voting for him in the primary, which would come as no surprise. Thoroughly disgusting, if Americans in general are that depraved. Could be though.
In TEXAS You can Buy a MIXED DRINK in Your CAR from a Drive-In Window. I SUPPOSE The Electorate was SO DRUNK on Election Day They Thought RICK PERRY was STILL Geo W Bush. THAT is The MENTALITY That The GOP is aiming for – Too Stupid to REMEMBER The LIES That KILLED THOUSANDS of AMERICANS in Iraq while New Orleans was Lost for Lack of Funds for Levee Repair – because it was Spent without Congressional Approval in Iraq.
As a life-long Texan, I assure you that you don't know anything about Texas liquor laws. Some liquor stores have drive-up windows where you can purchase a bottle or a six-pack and have it handed to you through the window. It is against the law for Texans to drive with an open alcohol container in the car, and that law is ignored as much in Texas as it is in every other state.
We need to end the fear mongering and class warfare. We are in this together and the sooner we all learning to compromise and work together the better off we will all be.
The Teabagger-Republicans sure are a stupid bunch.
Gee all the liberal democrat geniuses that make up the 98% of our convicted felons in prison ranks? Or is it the illegal immigrant geniuses that the dems always court by no voter ID? OK lets take an average SAT score for dem held districts? Yea Einsteins...........
The GOP is experiencing what is called entropy. In other words, the center cannot hold and things are coming apart at the extremes. The dumbing down of America is under way folks. Hold on for a very, very rough ride.
What is it with the low IQ male cheerleader governors from Texas that is so appealing to the US masses?
So much of hatred from liberals. You're calling him all kinds of names. Where was your intelligence when you elected Obama. When you want to hire someone for a job, you find most experienced, most accomplished person but you guys elected a person who had never had a job, so no experience. Now you blame republicans for his dismal role as the President. He has yet to learn to speak without a teleprompter. People who have been touting Clinton economy, let me remind you that it was republicans congress who had put forward those ideas. It takes two to do a tango.
Interesting that CNN chose the picture they did. Says a lot about where they stand, in case there was any question.
Hey MEDIA people.....STOP REPORTING ON PERRY and fanning the flames....make him GO AWAY by NOT reporting on his every breath!!! Daw gone it....nobody Likes HIM!!
if the Republicans go with a centrist candidate like Perry and the Democrats stay with their leftist [Obama], the election is all but over and a Republican landslide will ensue.
The Dems need to ask themselves, very seriously, if they're willing to fight that losing struggle in the name of promoting the ideology or if they're willing to change horses in order to win in Nov. 2012
Perry is a centrist and Obama a leftist? We are through the looking glass, ladies and gents.
Tea anyone? Not me, I'm good. I don't get it. Clinton left the country with a surplus and most with fat pockets. Then Bush and all the greeds including all the Madoffs put that surplus on a flat in 8 years. Obama brings in a spare for hope but the drivers who put the surplus on a flat don't want to help him fix it. Hey, Obama at least you tried. Now everyones confused and can't find the tire that fits to fix it. We're screwed..and now everyones pointing fingers and crying like babies. 2012 will be an interesting year indeed. Good luck to all!
The tea party was spawned from The Affordable Care Act. Its roots were formed by the disinformation that the INSURANCE INDUSTRY. With healthcare becoming a reality, the insurance industry began to throw out terms like 'death panels'. It was a campaign to get the truly ignorant and emotional branch of the Republican party to pack any information local meetings that supporters of the health care law had. The information was never heard over the roar of the idiots. Remember, the scene on the news? Don't believe me. Read Deadly Spin by Norman Cromwell, written by an insurance industry insider (public relations) and the disinformation campaign that spawned the t-party. EXCELLENT READ!!!
Here's a plan for Perry.....first take all the Craz-zzy Christians, 2) Succeed from the US, 3) go start your own fringe, lunatic, extreme, obstructionist country...called Perry-Land where the ride never ends and your sick, dizzy and want to vomit!!
If the American people want a president that will put boots on the ground to settle global conflicts, Perry has more boots in his closets than many small armies. People get the president they deserve.
That's what we thought with Bush except he created more confilicts in the world that he solved.
At the end of the day, Obama hasn't contributed nearly as much to the debt as Bush, nor lost as many jobs per month ever (sure, we aren't really gaining, but it's not the disaster of Bush's last year in office).
Debt = 14.3 trillion dollars.
Bush = responsible for 42.7% of it
Obama = responsible for 16.8% of it.
Reagan = responsible for 13.2% of it (and he actually tripled the national debt, but it doesn't look as bad in percentage of debt today, as money was worth more at that time).
The lunatics have taken over the asylum! Good luck, GOP!
I laughed.
Rick Perry is the best thing that can happen to Obama's campaign for re-election. Like (former) Texas governor George Bush, Rick Perry was born stupid and has been losing ground ever since!
All this means is that the credibility of a candidate is no longer connected to ANY grasp of ANY subject. We should just put them on TV shows and pick by Nielson ratings.
The current slate of Republican candidates do not appeal to the Tea Party.
They want someone who will:
1) repeal Obamacare
2) overturn Roe v. Wade
3) get rid of the Dept. of Education and make homeschooling the law of the land
4) get rid of the EPA
5) demolish taxes for high-income earners forever
6) get rid of the student tuition subsidies
7) get rid of government subsidies and involvment in domestic wildfires
If none of these are met, then the Tea Party will not be satisfied.
Has there ever been a more stupid, whack job leftist moron than Zakaria? Has the leftist useful idiot ever heard of Ronald Reagan? Someone may want to inform Zakaria that Reagan won 49 of what Obama calls the "57 states", and Reagan was anything but "establishment" and was hated by every America-hating leftist freak show freak like Zakaria.
Our last two presidents and recent congresses have done more to dismantle our economic and social protection systems than any prior time in history. My concern is not for "anti-intellectualism" that is mentioned often in this blog, but rather an understanding of economics and how it works on a governmental level. It seems that the government has opened the purse and said, reach in and grab in exchange for your vote. Now there is nothing less and we're still asking the public to reach in and grab when there is nothing left. The purse is empty. I am more interested in having anyone run who has some experience at managing an economy and reigning in spending. It's not important to me whether one believes in evolution or creationism. If a person can do a better job than the last two presidents, I'm open to considering that person for the office. We are not going to find the perfect money manager. Most people make mistakes. The smart one's learn from them. Rick Perry has my attention. However, I'm still on the fence and I may sit there until November 2011. If Hillary Clinton decides to challenge President Obama, I would certainly have a lively decision making process.
like it or not, the new republican party is less government and more personal freedoms. it also put a republican in Ted Kennedy's seat. A republican in the govenors office in New Jersey, put a republican in Weiners office and will elect the next president of the united states. Those who hurl slurs are just too pig headed to recognize that the main stream media can't carry the water for the democratic party anymore. the tax and spend liberal days are over. It's time to return to the government of the people, for the people and by the people. Not Solyndra and illegal gun running in Mexico. Drain the swamp and oust Jimmy Carter, Jr.
Take it from a self-appointed expert who proclaimed that the incompetence of Dubbya and Carter were so devastating to the country that no republican would select another fundamentalist christian (whose only evident qualification was 'god is my co-pilot') as its presidential candidate... we are going to get another one. After both of the former two left us with two of our worst recessions, high unemployment and low morale, you'd think we'd learn a lesson. If god was Bush's co-pilot, I guess that explains why he didm't feel he had to answer to anyone when he destroyed our economy after stupidly blowing trillions in a bogus war in Iraq.
Life is hard and it is harder if you are stupid. Life will be much harder for us American if elect another Republican for President and make the same mistake with made with Bush.
The people who claim that the tea party has no racist agenda, that they're concerned with "less government" and "less spending", are the same people who, even to this day, will try to argue that the civil war was fought over "states rights", rather than slavery. This is not the 1860s; we are not fooled by the verbiage of concealment. Those disrespectful posters of PRESIDENT OBAMA spoke volumes about the tea party's true nature. If not, I invite anyone to explain away those posters. If you cannot, shut it up.
I have to hand it to Zakaria. He's getting more crafty and building up an opponent before he sticks the knife in them and tries to scare the public.
Seattleite... People that don't pay taxes, don't for a reason. They don't EARN enough to pay. Much of this country is in POVERTY. The "don't pay" includes those College Students that work, pay deductions, but don't earn enough to be taxed, so the get the refund. It's about time YOU and others LEARN about POVERTY. I'm SICK of this ME generation...
@MoDem
You realize that people who make over 250k a year pay more than their fair share? O know a medium sized town doctor who makes about 350K a year and pays a tax rate of about 38%. Do you think he gets covered by all the loop holes? No. Now compare that to the lowest tax bracket. He pays close to double the percentage of what they do. The fact is we do not need to raise taxes on the rich, just take away the loopholes so the billionaire CEO's have to pay the same percentage as those who barely fall into the top bracket.
Reference was made that Clinton left a surplus..Yes to the annual budget not to the deficit.Huge difference,anyone doing a fiscal budget can over inflate it and at the end it appears u didn't spend as much as year before.All Clinton did was over tax,the American taxpayer ,and instead of paying down the national debit they played games with-it leading us to believe something great was done . I do not believe federal gov should or can legally make a profit ,by over taxing people.
The silent majority is finally standing up and opening their mouth.
If the silent majority is anti-science, anti-education, and anti-medicine as the Tea Party, then we're in for a rough ride.
If its election season the republican party will dust of the four popular weapons: I like to call it the 3G's, guns, god along oppositions to gays mixed in EPA and climate change bashing. To suggest Perry is not mainstream ignores the above. Additionally, he is the classic republican pay to play politician. Unfortunately, the Democrats have nothing to offer but opposition to business, wealth transfer and unions. Jokers to the left and clowns to the right. Stuck in the middle with you.
Anyone who makes the argument that the poor, working class, and everyone under the inexistent "middle class" (yes that's right, there trully is no longer a middle class. All it takes is a medical accident, etc. to put someone in poverty which many people are in and more should be considered in poverty however the poverty line has not been adjusted for inflation since Kennedy's presidency, check your facts, I'm a sociology/history major that identifies with no party but whats best for society) must pay their fair share is clinically insane. Even if they paid, their contribution would be miniscule compared to taxes of those who make over 250k or the top 2% of this country who RULE this country with their insane wealth. Poor people paying taxes makes not mathematical or logical sense. Wake up and read actual non-biased research by professionals, not news networks like CNN or Fox News who serve an agenda. Al-Jazeera (English) has better non-biased journalism
When Fascism comes to America it will be shrouded in the flag and carrying a cross ---– Sinclair Lewis
I.E. the Republican....Tea-Party. What happened to separation of church and state? We're one of the most religiously influenced developed countries in the world. I thought we were passed the Jim Crow era and what not. I guess I was wrong.
alcoholic sinclair lewis gee what a quote , got any bitter drug addict quotes ?
I agree with you Brett. In other words we will be in BIG DO DO!!!!!
"It will make for a more difficult political system because these are the forces that have been very reluctant to compromise."
The beauty of it is Fareed, After November 2012 we won't have to compromise. Nor should we.
Did Obama, Reid and Pelosi compromise?
That's it, hold your breath and stomp your feet unti the 60% of the country that thinks you're behaving like spoiled 6 year olds gives in. No compromise. Brilliant governance, right there.
Great, more fanaticism as SOP.
Rick Perry's one hand is around G. Bush and another hand is around Al-Gore. His one leg is on Koch Brother's boat and another leg is on Tea-party boat. He always think about making money beneath the table. He speaks about revamping the immigration bill, allowing more illegal to stay in Texas. His eye is always on Latino vote. His body language says that, he is going to be another screw up like George Bush if he becomes the President of USA.
Your insight worked so well for Weiner's seat.......and the last midterms......read the writing on the wall Obama your messiah and Koolaid provider is done guess you will have to get your forehead 666 Obama loyalty tattoo removed after 2012?
At the end of the day this guy is the next president, of course Palin's daughters infant could win against PinocchiObama, disregarding false fictional CNN polls that are essentially hillarious.......and outright fantasy.....Obama is done stick a fork in him..........back to Chi Town Flatlander land you lying lawyer.
Palins daughter's child has to establish who fathered her first before running against Obama you Koch agent.
Course Palin's daughter knows who fathered her child he pays child support but the average Democrat single mother (and most are) knows only the father is one of the brothers down on the corner.......
So when do we finally learn politicians are not accountants? And who actually believes any of these candidates has the first clue as to how to solve problems effectively. Texas could have maintained itself with no noticeable change without a Governor for the past eight years. That's how effective Perry is. Sadly, it appears most politicians are in the race for old number one...themselves. How do we nominate somebody smart enough to effect major changes in a logical manner, rather than the "usual gang of idiots"?
Wow, the first Article by Fareed where I actually feel he gets it.
To say that the idea of another republican president scares me is an understatment.
To think that it would be a corporate-financed puppet from the Tea Party would send me running in absolute terror for the Canadian border.
Look at the two presidents prior to Obama that have dominanted my life: Clinton and Bush jr.
I entered High School under Clinton, a man that presided over the only budget surplus of my 28 year lifetime. During his terms as president:
I was able to obtain employment in Iowa the day I turned 16. I applied and was hired within 30 minutes. And it was a full-on 40 hour a week job. Not flipping burgers, but office work, complete with insurance.
With this job I was able to purchase my first car, pay for the insurance and upkeep, and the day I turned 18 I had 2 months rent easily saved for my first apartment. I also had a modest college fund I was able to earn MYSELF that I intended to utilize in my mid 20s to further my education. By all accounts, life for me, your average corn-fed Iowa boy, was looking damn good.
And then Bush takes office. Within the span of *2* years, this happens:
I am laid off, told that my job has been shipped overseas due to the costs for maintaining an American workforce simply being "too high compared to India."
Likewise, any replacement job I could have found with my skillset (tech support – customer service) has vanished like a fart in the wind.
I turned to construction, and was able to survive for about 8 months before basically all the construction jobs dried up and vanished. The phrase that defined my life from 2003 to 2006 was "sorry. I'd like to hire you but with the way things are there just isn't enough work to justify it."
In 2006 I landed a higher-paying tech job that lasted until 7-14-08. Again, shipped overseas.
I was unable to locate work at anything more than a standard "mcjob" of the kind incapable of supporting a single adult man unless youy had 3 of them, and all 3 were full time, until March of last year.
After Obama had taken office. But it was too late. Even working two jobs I was unable to keep from having to spend the $14,000 I had squirrelled away for college. And ythat money went on basic necessities like food, shelter and transportation to look for work.
As of now I am JUST starting to get back to where I was at 18 financially.. And the thought of having another Republican president re-crush what I have worked for with his double-extended cab "fossil fuel black hole" Humvee doesn't just scare me, but its enough to, for the first time in my life, question if I can afford to remain a citizen and resident of the land I have lovingly called home...
The deficit is out of control, programs must be cut. Start with funding for all sciences that uses evolution as a foundation of research, there's a ton of those. Maybe start with Cancer research, that's a huge pile of cash. Just the clinical trials or epidemiological studies alone cost millions of dollars. This would save billions. Next kill off funding for vaccines, lord knows this does nothing but induce horrible side effects. Put the money in to creationism. God will reward us for our support, you can believe in any cure you want and zero research costs. Plus creationism is a tax deduction, hell now it's making money. Got Measles? No problem just believe is away, works great and it's free! Tea Party should be all over this.
These people who have gained political power do call themselves: Christian conservatives. However, their actions prove they do not follow Christ but use Christ for their own political gain. They are the deceivers that Christ spoke of. They are not Christian conservatives but zealots, much the same as Judas Iscariot.
Yes you would know of Judas Escariot you voted for him his reincarnated name is Barrak HUSSEIN Obama , yea he goes to church what four times a year but never fails to talk of his "Christian Credentials" Maybe he got them at Reverend Wright's church of Hate Whitie Hate America?
Way to stay classy.
i couldn't care if the republicans shifted right off the planet.
I totally agee bill............but I do hope those repukes do shift right off the planet. Anyone who is from Texas has to be the most crooked man alive.
To angrynotmad7: Believe it or not, there are plenty of kind-hearted, educated liberals in Texas.
"United we stand, divided we fall." Can we just admit we're divided and break apart already????
I foresee these things if Governor Rick Perry becomes President: (1) A radical reduction in unemployment insurance, job training, disaster relief, anything that abates suffering; (2) Major increases in government surveillance of all citizens; (3) Closure or near-closure of the EPA, FDA, Dept of Education and NLRB; (4) A new war (Iran?) or a reprise of Iraq/Afghanistan: (5) Declaration of Enemies of the State(domestic version of Enemy Combatants); (6) An extreme swing in the justice system toward authoritarianism with weakening of the Bill of Rights; (7) Use of naked force and coercion of political opponents that will make us think of Nazi Germany before Hitler's triumph but when he was rapidly rising.
Rick Perry is someone who can singlehandedly destroy America. Those who consider these words to be hysteria, just wait. Just wait. I pray I am wrong but fear I am spot on.
Obama doubled the debt he inherited, spent more than all other presidents combined, famous quotes, no earmarks or veto, five days on the website, work across the aisle, never raise the debt ceiling, dont raise taxes, never take private funds for election campaigns, no lobbyists or special interest influence in his admiistration, change the atmosphere in D.C., work together and end the partisan vitriol, never get in the blame or finger pointing game, CSPAN cameras during ALL healthcare debate and dliberations, no backroom deals, close GITMO, out of Iraq in six months entirely, never have military actions without approval of congress, pay your bills, and about three hundred other lies..........courtesy of CNN's false messiah from Chittown flatlander land......
if he doubled the debt we would be at over 20 trillion much of our yearly deficits an therefore debt additions are still from the Bush tax cuts and to pay for the wars, loss of revenue from the recession too – your name accuses others of lies might want to check your own info to be on the safe side
Perry is the Great Evangelical Hope #5, or Huckabee II.
..if you think I can be bought for $5k ... I'm offended ..... the reply to that should have been "how much money does it take to stop offending you ?"
Indeed. "So what IS your price, Governor?"
What the tea partiers lack in wisdom they make up for by being LOUD. Loud and ignorant; bad combination.
@ SearchingForAnAtheistExtremist What do you want the Atheist Extremist for ?
FZ's got a lot of people stirred up and I am surprised to find good intellectual discussions going on with the usual Republican trolls and stupi-dos.
FZ: Do you think we will be seeing an "American Spring" soon ?
I'm not FZ, nor do I play him on TV, but we won't see uprisings while people still get their HD TV and their cheap beer.
Keep fighting the good fight Fareed. People interested in facts and reason can't give up no matter how hopeless it seems sometimes.
I see a horrible mean-spiritedness and hatefulness in the GOP that I have never seen before – it is really bad and it seems to have nothing to do with just a political point of view – just a desire to put their "boots" on the necks of anything or anyone they disagree with or do not like and mostly just for the satisfaction of doing so rather than to serve any purpose or to further any real objective – rather scary really – i think it comes from a generalized acceptance of hatred and hate speech that is promoted so freely through hate-filled right-wing talk radio – i really fear for our kids – many hear that stuff – frequently
Rick Perry is one SCARY DUDE with even SCARIER IDEAS.
Love Perry. He comes across as Presidential.
There's a difference between 'coming across as presidential' and actually being a President.
That's sad, but what's sadder is the Stockholm Syndrome democrats who are starting to think "Hey. That guy might be on to something. I don't want to vote for Obama anymore". Don't believe it. Take a look at New York. What a bunch morons. Now I truly am shocked about the lack of intelligence displayed by voters. IT'S A SCAM AND YOU ARE FALLING FOR IT.
Beware of jehadist in western clothing. They fill you with their ideology and enslave you. Is he a kashmerie separatist for he supports the Palestinians against Israel. Democrats will agree that obama is to be blamed for the political mess they are in. Independents are abandoning him in droves. He abdicate his role as leader, been missing in action for to long. You knew he would have won in 08 as you know now in your hearts he will lose in 2012. He is to blame.
You mean to say that Perry is an outsider candidate, not supported by the party mainstream? Are we supposed to believe that? More likely he is the mainstream candidate the mainstream has simply improved its ability to rally the Bible-thumpers.
republican party – if it really is so consumed by the bag party then it is no longer the republican party. bag party – they are not tea bags, they are republicans just as much as any other republicans – just less concerned with what the media or the crats think of their actions. There are not three parties there are still only two. Bible fetish types with political clout? Who cares as long as they keep their dumb dumb religions to themselves.
@GetTheTruth: I'm saddened by the apparent lack of actively vocal atheists in our daily commentaries. It seems only the extreme and somewhat unbalanced people (the majority of whom are predominantly of a Christian faith) are vocal and organized enough to get their views and/or interests into the national conversation. Science needs a voice. Logic needs a voice. Compassion needs a voice. I am in search of the atheist who is extreme enough to lead a massive movement which helps to introduce those qualities to the national stage so we can at least begin to have some small amount of representation.
Dear Clueless. I am sure you love straw men, so my post will have zero effect. Reading CNN and going to all these secular sites where the only stories you read about Christians are negative, the fact is these stories don't even represent 1% of what Christians do, or what they are all about.
Compassion, Logic and Science are all alive and well thanks to Christians.
The reason the majority of people in America are Christians is because of the above statement.
I know few atheists that are loving, compassionate or even have a clue about science since their only frame of reference is to "prove" they can do it alone and without God, not to find truth. The early scientist where out for truth and many found it and never once did it ever negate the existence of God.
Life makes the best arguments, and in America, Christians are making a difference in people's lives. Likely you are the type who sticks to stereotypes and if a Christian tried to help you, you'd run the other way or if one invited you to their house you'd decline because they might even try to talk to you about God and you couldn't have that.
All the Best.
My prayers is for many more to come around, and they will.
Dear Mr. or Ms. Truth Squad,
So-called atheists and theists are *all* the same - zealots. Rational and intelligent people are *indifferent* to religion, neither for or against. Religion to them is like astrology, irrelevent and not important.
I am an Atheist because I am an evolutionary scientist, but I do not subscribe to Darwinian theory. Darwinian theory of natural selection is the root cause why the world is not filled with Atheists after 200 years. Darwin admits in his opening remarks in his book on species that Lamarck ( a French) may be right and he could be wrong. But the French colleagues of Lamarck ridiculed him and distorted his theory, at that time the British became the major world power and the French lost it. Since then, the church supported Darwin's theory because it helped the Church goers feel that the nature in "natural Selection was God. Whereas it was Lamarck's theory that eliminated God and Nature and placed the organism as the only source of evolutionary change.
Until Darwin is thrown out we cannot prove evolution and that is why most evolutionary scientists are not Atheist's . In fact most evolutionary scientist just support Darwin because they don't want to be proven wrong and so perpetuate the theory. But recent studies in genetic engineering is proving that Lamarck was right, because introduced somatic genes have been inherited by offspring, contrary to Darwin's theory. The same is true of many priests and religious leader, they know that God doesn't exist, but they perpetuate it because it provides them with wealth.
One just cannot be an Atheist, one must have a basis for it and that can come from a proven evolution theory. That is why we cannot stand against fanatical religious believers. I was surprised at Repub. Huntsman for openly suggesting that Science and Evolution cannot be ignored if we are to be a great nation. Now we are a bunch of losers, thanks to all believers, God loves them and their ill gotten gains. These people are so smart they are capable of fooling their Gods.
It will take a whole generation to change, all those baby boomers living now are the main cause of religious revival, when they all die out, the younger generation will be different, but sooner in other countries than in the US.
"We may find that the debt showdown was just the beginning." Thanks for pointing that out Big Z...I'm sure most of us would have never guessed.
Every time I see Perry I automatically think of Al Capone, not so much because of his physical appearance but because of the way he behaves and speaks.
Never in history has a group of complete idiots convinced themselves of their complete and utter intellectual superiority to others like the modern day liberal.
The Hubris and Arrogance displayed on these blogs on an ongoing basis is jaw dropping.
I'll put the IQs of every legit Tea Party person against the Democrat base every single day.
The projection is text book.
Believe it folks, you are idiocracy. The Tea Party actually have jobs, create jobs, start businesses and are engine that makes America run.
Hey dos democrats sure seem edumacated. wunda what huffa says. that ron paul guy scares me. he tells to much of da truth. that Whittington guy and O'Riley are me heros !!!!!!
*sorry* above posting for gethetruth (my bad)
PS – There are many atheist extremists and they have done incredible damage to the human race.
Lenin, Mao and Hitler being the three that killed millions and millions. The USSR worked out great didn't it?
At least China is smart and letting Christians practice their faith, albeit like HItler did, with serious restrictions that wind up in death.
Recent research conducted by David Campbell at Notre Dame shows that Tea Party voters are neither grass roots independents nor are they small government conservatives. They are long-time Republicans and strong social conservatives. They can be distinguished from other Republicans by two things: religious fundamentalism (including a desire to bring religion into government) and higher than average levels of racial resentment (which they expressed long before Barack Obama became President). I know that wont make extremists on either side happy, but that's what the research shows.
So, no way has my GOP gain momentum, you can have this bunch of crack pots, I will wait for the next bunch.
I keep saying that Huntsman is running for the 2016 nomination. "Tired of the lunatics? Try a sane Republican. Me."
The obvious answer to this problem is to lower taxes on the "job creating" corporate wealthy.
The ones sitting on mountains of corporate cash and still laying people off? Yeah, a little extra money in their hoard will sure get things going again.
THIS is the best the GOP has to offer? pretty PATHETIC
Perry is a corrupt, amoral dbag, but he's a corrupt, amoral dbag that has a shot at winning it all. Dems better get on the ball.
Well, they have lost this Republican and Independent Conservative by pandering the Tea Partiers and the Religious Right .
@Truth Squad: I'm sorry you feel that you need to be so judgmental. I respect your right to believe in whatever it is you choose whether that be Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, and so on and so forth. I would stand by your side to fight for your right to freely practice your beliefs without any hesitation. I simply mean to point out that my choice to not practice your religion or anybody else's isn't as likely to be a supported position. When any religious group garners enough support to in effect legislate their beliefs on the mass population, that is simply taking away from the rights of others to practice their own personal beliefs freely. As a Christian, I would imagine you would feel the same way as I do if the major religion with the most influence in our country were Islam.
I repsect Mr. Perry for being almost honest (give the guy a break for fibbing about the Merck deal) about his agenda:
- He will abolish medicare which 95% of Americans are benefitting from or will benefit from when they get to be seniors.
- He will abolish social security and turn 50% of Americans into beggars and another 45% of Americans into living hand to mouth in their retirement.
- He will get rid of EPA and make American unlivable because EPA makes it harder from corporate Americans to get even fatter bonuses. We will go back to the 60s America when cities were covered by smog and water was not drinkable because EPA is killing fatter bonuses for the corporate executives who are contributing millions to his party's election coffers.
- He will protect the filthy rich, who got filthy rich on the backs of the middle class, from paying their fair share because their insatiable greed has to be satisfied before they can create more jobs using public money.
Here's what's coming:
If Perry gets elected, then we'll get hit again, bigger and harder.
He'll freak out and start attacking all Muslim countries.
Since we can'y pay for it, he'll attack first and ask questions later.
When the majority of his armies start turning on us and joining the opposition because they are not being paid, he'll frek out and start cutting the bidget down to the bare bones, like eliminating taxes for everyone, and getting rid of the EPA.
Here's the bottom line: if you attempt to elect Perry, the terrorists will win – they will defeat U.$..
The interesting thing is that Perry really is an "established candidate" in sheep's clothing. People from Texas know what he is all about. It's the rest of the country who doesn't know him. He is the king of "capital cronyism", as Sarah Palin puts it. If that is what the Tea Party wants, they are going to get a belly full.
This "expert on everything" is nothing more than a loud mouth male version of Nancy Grace
Well said!
Since it seems that there is no way to have an intelligent rational conversation or comprimise with conservatives on any issue these days why don't we just get it over with and divide our nation literaly? Create 2 nations one liberal and one conservative. Then that way each side of The political spectrum can see what the effects of their ideolgies would have on their nations without having obstructions to prevent putting these ideologies in action. I think if such a thing were to happen conservative would become the new illegals crossing the boarder for a better quaility of life.
Conservative ideologies have always served the intrests of the most wealthiest of people and corporations. Liberal ideolpgies have always served the intrest i the common man, namley everyone who is not the wealthiest.
This has already been done elsewhere.
Haiti (liberal) and the Dominican Republic (conservative).
Take a look at the aerial view – I dare you.
I have actually studied haiti to great lengths and I am calling you out on your grossly inacurate facts. Do your homework before you make claims and if you make a very specific claim such as yours besure to provide evidence of that claim. And fox news articles are not evidence.
To all the christian religious fundamentist: What would your jesus do? Would he applaud executions? Would he yell "let him die? What would perry do in the place of Pontius Pilate? I think we all know the answer to that question.
1. I'm NOT Jesus.
2. I would OBVIOUSLY help those in need.
3. Would you pay $100,000 for a lung transplant for a smoker, then not be enraged when you saw him smoking cigarettes again? What about finding a homeless man you gave $50 bucks to yesterday, passed out drunk with a bottle of booze today? Furthermore, do you really think you are "helping" that homeless man?
4. We need to encourage personal responsibility. Furthermore, we need to let the consequences of irresponsible behavior play themselves out. Being told the stove is hot is not going to teach you the stove is dangerous the way curiously touching the stove and living with the consequences will.
4. I could actually argue that your invocation of Pontius Pilate is actually laughable. Unbeknownst to you, Pilate actually helped fulfill a Biblical prophecy by sending Jesus to calvary. The same way Judas did.
p.s. Saying Pilate is responsible for Jesus' death is like saying Ford, Honda, Toyota, GM, and Chrysler are responsible for all the people killed in car crashes involving their products.
I'm a dedicated conservative, but I like to read Zakaria, a man I agree with roughly 25% of the time.
As a tea party member, the fact that pundits such as Zakaria are beginning to realize that the Tea party is not a bunch of crazy rich white old men, but a national grassroots movement looking to stop an out of control government and regain the spirit of prosperity in America.
We don't want to do away with government. If we did, we certainly wouldn't waste time running for office. We want to transform the political culture in washington. We have only just begun.
Yes, as long as spending levels continue to drastically outpace economic growth, we will have a debt debate. This isn't a time for a touchy-feely, hugs-all-around, lollipop gang in Washington.
At least Zakaria is beginning to understand that we mean business.
Zakaria is on the money for most of his article and then we get to the crazy, liberal, biased end part. "It would result in a Republican Party . . . that is more extreme, uncompromising and much less concerned with being dismissed by the mainstream media or characterized as irresponsible by people like me." Huh? How unprofessional, and shall we say irresponsible, for Zakaria to end with his personal characterization of conservatives as irresponsible. You want extreme- look at CNN (including Zakaria), MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, NY TImes, Obama, and all die hard Democrats. Talk about out of touch with the mainstream. Those liberal, leftist, extremist, untruthful perspectives have helped the Republican party, like most people in this country, to go grassroots conservative.
Yes, Fareed, this is the Tea Party now and not the Republican Party. The Republican party had become the same as the Democratic party- both run by banks and their interests. Now the Tea Party will run things and fix this country for working people again. It's amazing that working Democrats don't recognize this! It has been the old Republican party and the Democrats that have been running this country into the ground for the last 20 years. Ivy league elitists Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr and now Obama have sold our country's soul to the highest bidders (Banks and Chinese). It's time to take it back before it's too late!!!!!!!!
Tea party is ran by Koch Brothers
Working Democrats see that you want to destroy the regulations that keep our air and water clean, the program that will provide us a modest but measurable income and health care in old age, and actively work against our right to bargain with our employers for fair wages. Damn right we'll work against you.
BIG mistake in this article: "The big corporations and the banks are much weaker". Oh, what a steaming pile! With Citizen's United unleashing unlimited ANONYMOUS campaign cash, the big corporations and banks have NEVER had such a stranglehold on what used to be OUR democracy! Don't believe this corporate lie, folks...this article is as bought and paid for as the majority of our politicians... 100% of those on the right, and 25% of those on the left.
GRASSROOTS????????????
This Rove-sanctioned corporate-evangelical Big-Oil Sock Puppet???
This "i'll say and do ANYTHING my sugar daddies tell me" Empty Suit??
God help Amerika. Between lame, clueless democratics and fake-populist teabaggers, we're all but finished.
CNN has officially become FOX-lite®.
Is it all about Machismo now? I wonder. Perry and Romney are as equally flawed with serious dings in their republican "purity tests" Romney with his own similar healthcare bill and Perry with his "tuition" and HPV vaccines and yet he comes out unmarred no matter what he does – they don't seem to care – they are sold – he is their All Star – their prom king – does not seem to matter what he says or does from now on
Please stop making them (the tea party candidates) sound exciting and normal....they are pigs and everyone with a mind knows it.
He's just another crony.
Texas is about big oil. Oil profited during the economic crisis. Lots of jobs already there. He had it easy. Please don't let this guy have any federal power.
You are a freak, Fareed. We're done with you liberal humanists. Welcome to the way it's going to be for a while, bud. You can always move to France... Oh wait... they're moving away from you guys too. Hah!
Perry is fake
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice..............
Since he's basically GW III, it will be more like fool us thrice.
Rick Perry's one hand is around G. Bush and another hand is around Al-Gore. His one leg is on Koch Brother's boat and another leg is on Tea-party boat. He always think about making money beneath the table. He speaks about revamping the immigration bill, allowing more illegal to stay in Texas. His eye is always on Latino vote. His body language says that, he is going to be another screw up like George Bush if he becomes the President of USA.
Obama is a con! Obamacon!! But you guys know that already!
Yep, the republican party I suppose is changing and we're sick of the same lying, promises to be broken candidate and that's why the majority is now for Rep Dr. Ron Paul. He's a man of his word. He's studied all the issues that will work best to bring the United Sates of America back to where she should be.
True Liberty, Freedom & Prosperity can be given to us by one man and he is Ron Paul!
Really? If the majority elects this Bozo then we get what we ask for, worse than W. I always think it can't be any worse than it is and I'm always proven wrong. I thought Nixon was bad, then W, now horse's ass.
PERRY IS A TYPICAL RIGHT WING LUNATIC !!
I fear the Tea Party. I fear the Tea Party's influence on mainstream Republicans. I fear that if the Republicans win the general election Fascism is just around the corner.
If Perry wins, its time to pack up and move to Canada where reason, intelligence and responsibility for your fellow man is still a valued trait.
I refuse to live in a nation headed up by an Insane Theocratic Plutocrat.
See ya' Brooke! We won't miss you much!
Neither will I.........come and go:)
I wouldn't worry too much. I truly believe the end of these clowns is just around the corner. Have faith.
That's the final straw. Zakaria you are a traitor to the United States of America. And you claim to be a patriot...shame on you for so blatantly putting Perry's face on Ron Paul. Grassroots are you kidding me? Dude journalistic oath...
Google "J. Fred Muggs". Check out the picture with him and Ronnie Ray-Gun. I think Perry could use it for some "political mileage" given the fact Perry looks just like him!
hah he reminds me more of jack nicholson's the joker.
Two words for all democrats:
Filibuster everything.
no more filibuster – we have supercongress now.
Ron Paul!!
As a transplant to Texas, I would not recommend Rick Perry. There is just too much corruption in this state, and a lot of people here consider him to be full of hot air. Hate to put it that way, but I see him as less sincere than Romney.
As a native, I would say he is just another politician bought and paid for by corporate greed. How Ironic he would be a tea party darling. It just shows how lost they are.
To me Zakaria is a master of mischaracterization, I don't think he fully "gets" American society. The bulk of the Republican Party is not that interested in Tea Party candidates and is not especially interested in a Mormon for president. Perry seems a lot like an establishment candidate. He seems a lot like Bush in many way – Gov of Texas, aligned with Christian groups, friend of business.... no big shift is going on here.
What world do you live in, man???
Big corporations and banks are much weaker?
US Corporate banks just conducted the largest theft in human history,
and then were paid off by the US Government for doing so.
The center of power has moved from the smoke-filled backroom to astroturf dummy groups, to be sure.
But all that has changed is that the players no longer publically flaunt their power.
The new Republican bosses are the same as the old Republican bosses.
The new smokescreen are the photogenic Palin/Bachmann/Perry clones
They mouth off their pro-ignorance, fear and hate filled, jingoeist rhetoric.
But they can be assured of doing what they are told when the money votes are held.
Can y'all spell Ronald Reagan?
I can smell him in the air from over there.........he is not good for our country, but no one is who is from Texas. We should rename this state............the Burning Inferno, hehheehe
Things go better for the GOP with the TRickster? If you believe that, I have a bridge I'd like for you to look at....EVERY bone in his body is available for sale. He is the picture of graft and corruption.
Trust me. I live in Texas.
Born and raised in Austin, and this guy is the picture of Texas Corruption.
Slick Rick is the reason I started voting in the first place–to try and get him out of the governor's office. I hope like hell he doesn't become our next president.
CNN stories are slanted for the Democratic Party. I read for amuzement. Real news doesn't exist in the media today.
For Bob's comment about % of GDP..Did you forget Obama's #'s or if you included him then the % would be slanted in favor of Republicans...You are a joke
Fareed Zakaria,
You are a complete hack and an establishment mouthpiece yourself to attempt to define Rick Perry a grassroots candidate. We all know the real grassroots candidate is Ron Paul. I don't think a grassroots outsider would call in the 'Rumsfeld Team' to advise him on national security as the article linked below points out regarding Perry.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/07/rick-perry-presidential-race-donald-rumsfeld-/1
The above article by Zakaria is working to establish a seemingly pre-determined Perry/Romney dual. That is the establishment in a nutshell and both Perry and Romney, dare I actually say every Republican candidate EXCEPT Ron Paul, is generally pro-establishment. Take Bachmann, the former IRS tax litigation lawyer turned tea-partier, what a joke!
RON PAUL 2012 or BUST!!! For true liberty, honesty, consistency and actual revolutionary change, not just rhetoric.
Did you see the article defending Perry's gardasil executive order? CNN now actively campaigns for Rick Perry with blatant lies. I never thought I'd see the day our mainstream media becomes the Ministry of Truth.
Perry grassroots? where did this come from?..
Fareed, whose lantern jaw is bigger? Yours or Leno's/
Tea party and Repubs: Whoever shoots their guns in the air while simultaneously stomping on a science book and praising God the loudest gets the nod. There is no secret to the process.
Tout all Christian values except for helping the less fortunate or showing mercy to our enemies. Lower taxes for anyone except the middle class. No regulations for corporations so they can pretend to create jobs while actually padding their pockets.
I'm actually just as disatisfied with the Dems, but I guess I'll go with the lesser of two evils. Obama inherited a mess from the Repubs, and while he hasn't turned out to be the president I had hoped for, I'll be damned if I turn it all back over to the Repubs after just 4 years.
That about sums it up, unless you can actually think past liberal talking points and rhetoric. That is pretty hard for a liberal, however, since by nature you are limited to group think. Have you bothered reading any statistics on charitable contributions by Christians versus liberals? The former group provides almost 70 percent of all charitable contributions, not to mention commitment of personal time and service. Liberals just want to foist that responsiblity on the government because when it really comes down to it, your individual compassion is hollow and meaningless. You don't serve God, you serve yourself.
Keep spouting that bigotry, if it helps you sleep at night.
I think you're missing the point of the tea party......
I can't stand the republicans. Most all of em' are exactly as you describe them. That's why I am a tea party member. We're just getting started....
Heaven help us if Rick Perry is more than a blip on the screen.
Considering what happen last time, it's not an exaggeration to say it could end our way of life.
Heaven help us if we enjoy another four years of this joker in the White House. The republic may not survive... but that's the plan isn't it...
PAHLEEZE! Rick Perry doesn't stand a chance of winning the Presidency. Look at him , he's another Texas Joke!
Hillary Clinton for PRESIDENT!
i love rick perry, especially because he's not capable of being elected, his campaign will fall apart when he doesn't have other GOP members to argue with and he's the sole runner.
Ya,u r right people will love Rick perry especially if he will be elected because many teachers will be out of job and yeheyy no schools also happy me as student because no test,no assignment....
If this greasebal is on a "rise" Americans have officially became the stupidest people on the planet
In the twentieth century, Atheist leaders of the world who also believed in evolution have been responsible for the death of over 123million 500thousand person that's 123500000 persons. they also caused misery and lost for hundreds of millions. they have not advanced the cause of humanity. Mao- 78million. Stalin 23million. Hitler 12million. Tojo 5million. Polpot 2million. Kim ii 2million. Brezhnev 1million. Konoe 500thousand. Sukarno 500thousand. Hochi min 200thousand. Lenin 300 thousand. Those are the facts. atheistic belief destroys your humanity.
Dullard, Christian invaders were responsible for millions of deaths iin the Americas via disease, war, slavery. Islamic invaders enslaved millions of Africans for centuries and sold them to the West *and* the East. They still sell African to the East as slaved. Really make you wonder how *any* American Blaclk can be a Muslim!
Sukarno was *lslamic* not an Atheist, Moron.
I think you'll find that religious belief has little to do with the scale of atrocities that leaders have committed. Atheist communists have slaughtered millions, as have Muslim caliphs and Christian kings. Lack of human decency knows no religious boundaries.
Correct. Religion or theism is just the most herd-friendly *ism, in contrast to the other *isms: communism, fascism, nationalism, etc.
Rick Perry should be Dick Fairy.
I think I'm going to say that Zeus told me he wants me to be president and if everyone votes for me, that's the way Zeus wants it and America will be OK again. And, everyone else who believes in Zeus can join me on Mt Olympus when Zeus decides that he's had enough fun with these crazy people on earth, but the rest of the losers who don't believe will just
go to Hades and be miserable. Make sense? Wouldn't you vote for me?
So if Rick Perry is the rebirth of Republicans – I'm turning in my card. He's an empty suit with a toupee. The American people have got to be smarter than thinking Rick Perry is going to fix things. He'll make a good Republican turn Democrat – aka me. As someone who has worked for the RNC for over a decade – I'll switch parties if he's the nominee. And I probably know just a little more about him than you.
Commmentsssd....
All republicans are liar and corrup....
All Democrats are baby killers.
If this nation keeps on turning their paths from God then it will fall. This has happened in the past, and it is true. Atheism is on the up rise, and there must be an end somewhere. Rick Perry is absolutely the best choice for the 2012 nomination because he knows Jesus as his personal savior, and with Gods help he can put this nation back on track. No human brain can fix the mess that we are in today, Jesus is the only answer. PERRY 2012!
Better than Zeus?
Religious moron. Perry is just another Wholey-Babble spouting Fascist!
Stop just saying things with no facts behind it, because its just nonsense. Texas is by far the best, economically wise, state and that fact is undeniable. Perry is the only one that could get this nation out of this trouble. I like to look at facts and records< and not just make up some silly remarks like the ones you make.
The rise of the Tea Party Republicans really is just a backlash to the leap forward that the country attempted to make in electing a President that was different than all those before him. Unfortunately for the country and for Obama, the economic collapse before Obama took office derailed his positive agenda ( much to the glee of conservatives) and turned him into a reluctant and not particularly successful political firefighter. The backlash is fueled by those who fear change....religious, conservative or already wealthy people. The country will never move ahead listening to the voices of fear....the future can only be bright if it is led by pragmatic people like Obama that don't look to the past for answers and aren't afraid to dream of a better day.
Is this the Obama team campaign for 2012? "A vote against Obama is a vote for the KKK?
Tired.
Its incredible that you mention his entrepreneurial drive Fareed, this is what we all need as well to revive the economy as you have mentioned and maintained before.
The point is – will people see this change in the right light and give it a chance?
Vijay Vasu
http://www.gunshotdigital.com
@Truth Squad There is a big difference in What Christ supposedly said and Christianity. Christians are doing good for a selfish reason and that is to book a berth in haven. Don't forget all the killings they did and so did Islam. Nazis were Christians ! The problem is neither with Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha or other so called prophets and their teaching, it is the leaders of these groups that have distorted facts, by associating Jesus and Mohamed with God. In general, the morality that comes from Jesus is nothing but those of Buddha, who came some five or six hundred years earlier and there is evidence that Jesus was a Buddhist and traveled to India. The gospels are all fabricated stories after some hundreds of years and they made Jesus the son of God. The Romans have no evidence that Jesus even lived.
Anyway, all religions have some good in them and Christianity to the westerns seems like it has saved the world. Christianity, Colonization and slavery all created a turmoil that is still simmering, it was primarily due to Social Darwinism, the rich exploited it and the Church looked the other way because its coffers were filling up. The church also supported the Nazis against the Jews. You don't know much about history do you ?
The economic problems in the US was caused by Greedy Businessmen and was helped by a stupid man called Greenspan for 40 years. Reagan a foolish president appointed him. How a country could keep him for 40 years is astounding, and why have so many Jewish people advising the past and present presidents.
Tea party people don't create jobs, they are just the paid supporter of the rich republicans, who want to control both the senate and the congress and dismantle all the regulations and make more money and leave it to the democrats to carry the bag and blame them again. The republican like a war-economy so that they can loot the treasury. The rich don't create jobs because they love you Christians, they want to get richer at your expense. The only way to get your fair pay is to impose regulations and taxes on them. Or do you feel as Good Christians they will also make you as rich as themselves. Christianity is Socialism !!! or do you want me to quote Christ ! Capitalism is Anti-Christianity, but to get to heaven, the rich make contributions only when God is watching.
God is the one that created this earth, and He is in full control of the universe to this day. Religion has nothing to do with this, it's the personal relationship with God, Jesus Christ. This nation has forgot God, and turned away from its Creator. If this continues things will only get worse economically, and in all the other spheres that impact us.
You made a lot of false remarks about the Bible and Christianity. If you never read the whole Bible and don't know the actual truth, then don't spread lies. We hear enough lies everyday, it's time to face reality.
Fareed Zakaria,
You are a complete hack and an establishment mouthpiece yourself to attempt to define Rick Perry a grassroots candidate. We all know the real grassroots candidate is Ron Paul. I don't think a grassroots outsider would call in the 'Rumsfeld Team' to advise him on national security like Perry did just a few weeks ago.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm beginning to think the name RON PAUL has quite a nice Presidential ring to it...
It's disgusting how much CNN chooses to follow a few select candidates, namely Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann and Mitt Romney. Those names dominate this site's headlines. Why don't they give Ron Paul and other candidates a fair amount of media coverage? I could expect such bias crap from Fox News, but I had more respect for CNN until recently.
This is why 'media' outlets like CNN get very little respect these days. You're going to refer to a man who is bankrolled by some of the biggest corporations in the world to the tune of literally BILLIONS a 'grassroots' candidate? There's a reason the United States is teetering on the edge, folks. And you're looking directly at its beady eyes. A day when someone like Perry is considered 'grassroots,' (and labeled so by the media) I'm not kidding: It's time to roll the sidewalks up and close it all down. This is THE end of democracy. No hyperbole, no sarcasm or exaggeration. This is IT.
Oh look! another CNN article slobbing the knob if a crazy loon. I'm sure the plan is to keep bombarding us with his name and how awesome he is in efforts to brainwash the public into voting for him. It disgusts me that there are enough sheeple in this country to fall for it.
I have no idea how Rick Perry is so popular – he's an idiot... It's all about Ron Paul! It's a shame he isn't getting the attention he deserves. He's the president we need, yet don't deserve. It's amazing how people shrug him off as being crazy – yet he is the one who has been right for YEARS!
Hey, come on Fareed. Once again you have missed it, which surprises me given that you are Muslim yourself. What we are really witnessing here is the rise of a new Ayatollah to lead a group of religious fanatics, lunatics, tea baggers and assorted others to power over an important nation. It worked well for Ayatollah Khomenie in Iran in 1779, but the vast majority of decent, intelligent Americans are beginning to feel a bit scared that this new homegrown ayatollah might actually be able to do something similar here. Do feel free to comment.
You don't vote for a man that wanted to take his state of Texas and secede from the Union. In my book that Treason and that make him a Trader to this country. He shouldn't even been able to stay GOV, let a long run for President. How Is It going to make America better when he was trying to make It worse.
I don't know what everyone is afraid of. I live in Texas and Rick Perry is not the scary person that the media is making him out to be he is a decent man that cares about state he serves. Please don't let the rhetoric in the media make him out to be this crazy right wing politician...he is not.
Any person that claims God is talking to him...or claims that God is doing things because of things going on in DC is a nutjob. I don't care how much "he loves his state". He's a loon. Just like Palin...and just like Bachmann.
Perry is another Bush! "In 2005, the lobbyists fought to restore $200 million in funding for No Child Left Behind that had been cut by the Senate. About $14.5 million of that money was directed to Texas for “innovation programs.” The Texas lobbying operation also supported several earmarks, including direct funds for maintenance dredging in the Matagorda shipping channel and money to study the feasibility of a desalination project in Freeport."
http://swampland.time.com/2011/08/17/rick-perry-aggressively-pursued-federal-aid-he-now-decries
He is just another Tea Bagger that protest his own survival bring us all down with him!
Well if you tell them a Socialist wrote the Pledge of Allegiance or the Republican Party began as a liberal party or
even Jesus said to pay your taxes Matthew 22:21 they just turn you off! Do you want them to pass stupid laws!
Wish I decided to go to College in Canada. There would be no worry about some right-wing nut job getting elected. Michelle Bachmann is to stupid and to well whipped by the Tea Party, Rick Perry contradicts himself in the same sentence "Obama will pay for tax incentives (i.e. tax cuts) with higher taxes." Ron Paul has some good ideas but his ideas about public schooling, and the minimum wage is troubling. Mitt Romney well say whatever he has to to get elected, his campaign is significantly different from his 2008 campaign. Newt Gingrich nearly halted the economic growth that was promoted by Clinton. Herman Cain is basically the godsend for corporations, who will destroy the middle and lower classes. Rick Santorum he may be a good presidential choice (as far as republicans go that is) but he will not beat Perry or Romney. I feel the same about Huntsman as I do Santorum.
I want everyone reading this posting to know, that if you vote for Perry or Obama, you will be getting 20, 30 more years of perpetual wars, our nation completely bought out by foreign banks, by china....do you understand the federal reserve bank of new york, issues all of our currency to finance these perpetual, pointless wars? Do you realize, your income tax money they collect, is only capable of paying the interest we owe the federal reserve to finance our nation? Do you realize the federal reserve, is owned not by our nation, but by international investors worldwide? If we continue with the same domestic, monetary and foreign policy, our nation is doomed. Plain and simple....the standard of living will severely drop, the only export we will have is death and war and the military industrial complex, who now runs the show....we must have a revolutionary leader, a true leader who will not abuse his power, who will end the wars, who will reform our monetary policy, bring the troops home, truly end the fed's power of dictating the world's reserve currency. We must vote for Ron Paul. Obama, Perry, will continue the status quo...things will only get worse and worse....I plead with you all to truly research Ron Paul and what he stands for and to spread his sensible, good word. He is a humble, sincere man who has always stood for not only freedom for Americans, but all of humankind, with an impeccable record. Perry and Obama, are nothing more, than phony mouthpieces...Perry is Bush W part 2. Please, research Ron Paul, and support him. Drop your preconceived notions of what a president should look like, and speak like, and return prosperity to our once great nation.
Sorry, but I would never vote for a president that advocates the removal of public schools, and eliminating the minimum wage.
I can't wait til Rick Perry's gay lovers start talking to the media.
The whole state of Texas is burning down to the ground. How can a Texas politician save the whole country?
He'll bring everyone brand new Bootstraps, with which the poor and downtrodden may haul themselves up!
It's just that the religious-right in America is better represented by the Tea Party style than the old Republican approach. It is the death knell for conservatives political credibility.
You know the liberals are running scared when shills like Zakaria write promotional articles for Perry. Zakaria knows that Perry has little chance in the general election so he will do all he can to make sure Perry takes the spotlight off of Romney who will show Obama the door if he makes it through the primary.
If that was true he would promote Bachmann.
Perry can win the primary. Bachmann is more of a long shot
YOU INCREDIBLE MORONS WHO CLAIM THAT THOSE OF US WHO MAKE LESS THAN 250K PAY NO TAXES ARE EITHER BALD FACED LIARS OR INSANE!!! What about payroll taxes taken BEFORE we get our money? Or sales taxes? ARE YOU STARK RAVING MAD? I made LESS than 22k last year and I OWE $1300! HOW IS THAT NOT PAYING TAXES? HMMM? Just as some of you yelled out "Let him die", I feel the same about most of you!
To Rick Perry & Haley Barbour
The family of an African-American man who died after allegedly being beaten by a group of white teens and run over by a truck is asking state and federal officials not to seek the death penalty in the case.
Relatives of James Craig Anderson, who died shortly after receiving his injuries on June 26, sent a letter with their request to the prosecutor in the case, Hinds County District Attorney Robert Shuler Smith.
"We ask that you not seek the death penalty for anyone involved in James' murder," the letter states; the letter is signed by Barbara Anderson Young, James Craig Anderson's sister who is in charge of, and speaks for, his estate.
The letter states that the family is opposed to the death penalty partly for religous convictions
Religous convictions
Perry is a piin-head. Romney has delusions of being the Angel Moronic. Bachmann wants to be bare-foot and pregnant in the kitchen. Cain looks like a nice Uncle Tom. Ron Pail is senile. Newt belongs in Monty Python's Holy Grail. Who's left? Who cares? They're all ideologues and zealots.
CNN, am not in the least bit interested in the perspective of Zakaria on GOP presidental candidates. Leftist writers are not capable of objectively writing about the GOP candidates.
I really need to chime in.
The last presidential election there wasn't a Bush or a Dole on the ticket. And Sarah Palin certainly wasn't anything near establishment.
Rick Perry has been governor of Texas for the last 10 years, and I would say that is pretty established. Just not in the term of DC established. And I highly doubt he has a record of not willing to compromise.
And honestly, I thought Obama was a "new era" of Democrats. He certainly wasn't established....only being Senator for one year before entering the Presidential race. And his record and history showed a lot of extreme and not willing to compromise. And he was heralded and praised for it! Mostly because the Left has shifted more liberal in the past 10 years. (Please anyone try and argue that)
Not fooling me, Zakaria.
OK, I'll argue that. The Democrats are far more right wing now than they were 10 years ago. I've been involved with them for many years, and the rightward shift has been noticeable.
Joel
Before 2004 I was a Democrat. Turned Independent and now a Republican. The Democrats shifted to the Left in a big way. Even the Democrats that were on top in the 90's are more Left than they ever were and far less willing to compromise.
Your talking to someone who's been involved for a long time and can see what is happening to both parties.
Simply not true. I have been involved since gun control wasn't political suicide and welfare reform was, since it was the Republicans who proposed health care reform that looks a lot like what Obama got passed but the Dems rejected it for not going far enough. That was back in the 1980s and 1990s. More liberal now? What planet do you live on?
@Alaska Palin: I'm not quite sure how to respond to your post besides gently recommending you do some more thorough independent research on the individuals and information you posted. It's simply not accurate, sorry.
He is the Tea Bagger type! Like walking on a tight rope as high as our debt ceiling & as he walks along he keeps cutting the rope & putting it in his pocket. He should be building the rope making it stronger because we all are on the rope with him!
Or like having 46 million people on food stamps, unemployed people needing help, the debt, where we should be raising money, because we need money. Kind of like quiting your job as a DR to work at MC-donalds! That is why it is said the Tea Party protest their own survival! Bring down pay of everyone, then wondering why their business is bust with many people with no money! We should be raising the pay not getting rid of unions or lowering pay! How are we to grow with many people that has no money! The Hoover dam was not made from food stamps!
Well, geesh. Must have been those Tea Partiers that elected him Governor the past 10 years. Or, like Democrats claim Tea Partiers only came out of the woodwork because we have a black President???
Which is it?
You know who REALLY wants a grass roots rube in the White House? Wall Street. Simple folk think guys like this are all about waving fields of wheat, soldiers coming home and hugging the dog as it runs out of the house to greet him and apple pie resting on the open window sill. There are no apple pies or wheat fields on Wall Street, which is really who a vote for a republican is for.
The Republican party has become the anti-Obama party because the new energy it is receiving, the Tea Party backlash, really is just a knee jerk fear reaction from wealthy, religious and conservative people who feel threatened by social changes that are inevitable as America metamorphizes away from domination by white, Christian and very wealthy people. The election of Obama was a shock to these groups and a particularly strong shock to the minority that still hold strongly racist opinions. A tsunami of change is coming soon, even though the tide, at the moment, is receding.
are you people for real ? Ron Paul is your only way out of your mess. think what he stands for.
CNN, please don't legitimize this fraud with a headline like this. The media creates these monsters, then you can't put the genie back in the bottle. Let the American public decide without your untrue statements.
November 2010 was a warning. NY-9 was a Code Red. With Obungle sporting a Jewish Skull cap reverently touching some stone wall in a basement in D.C. for the Jewish vote a day after NY-9 ..... Democrats had better update their resumes.
Vote out he Tea Party!
Get ready for President Perry, liberals. I would like to see a Perry/Rubio ticket. 16 years of republican rule for your punishment and torment. It is the price you pay for being tax and spend socialists in America, the land of free-market capitalism. Hey BTW, just for the sake of encouragement, Obama's approval rating in California is tanking 46 to 44 disapproval, down from 56 to 37 just a few months ago before the cool-aid starting running out. It is only going to get worse and worse for you. Move to Greece while you still have time.
Obama will wipe the floor with him in a debate. He has the speaking skills of Bush 2,
You are quite correct about Obama vs. Perry's speaking skills. However, the factor you are missing is that Perry has that thing called "mass appeal quality." For better or worse, Perry has it in spades.
Supporters of Texas Governor Rick Perry are not going to like this article at all. Right now, Republicans all over the United States are touting Rick Perry as the “Republican messiah” that is going to come charging in to save America from the presidency of Barack Obama. Many believe that if Rick Perry enters the race, he will instantly become the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012. Perry certainly looks the part and he knows how to give a good speech, but when ordinary Americans all over the country take a hard look at his record, they may not like what they see. The truth is that Rick Perry is a big-time globalist, he has raised taxes and fees in Texas numerous times, he has massively increased the size of government spending and government debt in Texas, he has been trying to ram the Trans-Texas Corridor down the throats of the Texas people and he tried to force young women all over Texas to be injected with the Gardasil vaccine. No, Rick Perry is not going to save America. In fact, he would likely be very, very similar to both Bush and Obama in a lot of ways.
Right now, Rick Perry is trying to portray himself as a “good conservative” so that if he enters the race he will be accepted by Christian conservatives. If Rick Perry did win the Republican nomination, he would have a great chance of winning the general election because he would very much be an “establishment” candidate.
But before Republicans get too excited about Rick Perry, there are a whole lot of things that they should know about him.
The following are 14 reasons why Rick Perry would be a really, really bad president….
#1 Rick Perry is a “big government” politician. When Rick Perry became the governor of Texas in 2000, the total spending by the Texas state government was approximately $49 billion. Ten years later it was approximately $90 billion. That is not exactly reducing the size of government.
#2 The debt of the state of Texas is out of control. According to usdebtclock.org, the debt to GDP ratio in Texas is 22.9% and the debt per citizen is $10,645. In California (a total financial basket case), the debt to GDP ratio is just 18.7% and the debt per citizen is only $9932. If Rick Perry runs for president these are numbers he will want to keep well hidden.
#3 The total debt of the Texas government has more than doubled since Rick Perry became governor. So what would the U.S. national debt look like after four (or eight) years of Rick Perry?
#4 Rick Perry has spearheaded the effort to lease roads in Texas to foreign companies, to turn roads that are already free to drive on into toll roads, and to develop the Trans-Texas Corridor which would be part of the planned NAFTA superhighway system. If you really do deep research on this whole Trans-Texas Corridor nonsense you will see why no American should ever cast a single vote for Rick Perry.
#5 Rick Perry claims that he has a “track record” of not raising taxes. That is a false claim. Rick Perry has repeatedly raised taxes and fees while he has been governor. Today, Texans are faced with significantly higher taxes and fees than they were before Rick Perry was elected.
#6 Even with the oil boom in Texas, 23 states have a lower unemployment rate than Texas does.
#7 Back in 1988, Rick Perry supported Al Gore for president. In fact, Rick Perry actually served as Al Gore’s campaign chairman in the state of Texas that year.
#8 Between December 2007 and April 2011, weekly wages in the U.S. increased by about 5 percent. In the state of Texas they increased by just 0.6% over that same time period.
#9 Texas now has one of the worst education systems in the nation. The following is from an opinion piece that was actually authored by Barbara Bush earlier this year….
• We rank 36th in the nation in high school graduation rates. An estimated 3.8 million Texans do not have a high school diploma.
• We rank 49th in verbal SAT scores, 47th in literacy and 46th in average math SAT scores.
• We rank 33rd in the nation on teacher salaries.
#10 Rick Perry attended the Bilderberg Group meetings in 2007. Associating himself with that organization should be a red flag for all American voters.
#11 Texas has the highest percentage of workers making minimum wage out of all 50 states.
#12 Rick Perry often gives speeches about illegal immigration, but when you look at the facts, he has beenincredibly soft on the issue. If Rick Perry does not plan to secure the border, then he should not be president because illegal immigration is absolutely devastating many areas of the southwest United States.
#13 In 2007, 221,000 residents of Texas were making minimum wage or less. By 2010, that number had risen to 550,000.
#14 Rick Perry actually issued an executive order in 2007 that would have forced almost every single girl in the state of Texas to receive the Gardasil vaccine before entering the sixth grade. Perry would have put parents in a position where they would have had to fill out an application and beg the government not to inject their child with a highly controversial vaccine. Since then,very serious safety issues regarding this vaccine have come to light. Fortunately, lawmakers in Texas blocked what Perry was trying to do. According to Wikipedia, many were troubled when “apparent financial connections between Merck and Perry were reported by news outlets, such as a $6,000 campaign contribution and Merck’s hiring of former Perry Chief of Staff Mike Toomey to handle its Texas lobbying work.”
Rick Perry has a record that should make all Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians and Independents cringe.
He is not the “conservative Republican” that he is trying to claim that he is. He is simply another in a long line of “RINOs” (Republicans in name only).
If Rick Perry becomes president, he will probably be very similar to George W. Bush. He will explode the size of the U.S. government and U.S. government debt, he will find sneaky ways to raise taxes, he will do nothing about the Federal Reserve or corruption in our financial system and he will push the agenda of the globalists at every turn.
Look, the truth is that another four years of Barack Obama would be a complete and total nightmare.
But so would four years of Rick Perry.
America deserves better than the “lesser of two evils”.
Unfortunately, the American people have been dead asleep and have been sending incompetents, con men and charlatans to Washington D.C. for decades.
Hopefully things will be different in 2012.
Perry 2012!!!
The key to Zakaria's note on Republicans and the emergence Rick Perry was less tolerance of the establishment media. The shift in Republican ideology that Zacharia refers to is real, and not necessarily a perry sponsor. It is a rejection of "the media" and supposedly responsible people like Zakaria who have pontificated for the last 40 years on what's right and wrong. The people have been shut out under the influence of the media.The media sensationalizes, limites its point of view to its agenda, and camps in to the subconscious like brain cancer. If getting rid of the media establishment requires voting for Rick Perry, I'm in. I'm not a fan of Rick Perry, but up against the media, he is the lesser of two evils.
It appears to me that you Republicans really want such a candidate as Rick Perry. God bless you and welcome to him! You are just about to find out just how ultra-conservative a real believer can be! You didn't like George W. Bush; well, just wait until you see Mr. Perry in action. Bush is a self-described "born-again Christian." However, Perry was indoctrinated from the cradle. There is quite a difference there.
There are effective treatments available for Christophobics like you.
"less inclined to compromise"? How is that possible? Can compromise be calculated as less than zero?
For those who are christian conservatives who say that the tax burden is to high on the upper class. I highly suggest you look up Mark 12: 41-44. Also the bible supports a form of communism at Acts 4: 32-37 specifically line 35 which seems like a rewording from Marx. "Distribution was made unto every man according as he had need" Acts 4: 35 "From each according to ability to each according to their need" Karl Marx
You been sitting in on Reverend Wright sermons lately? Smoking crack? You should stick to atheism. Your understanding of the Bible is feeble.
I'm actually agnostic and I have read the bible.
Rick don't believe all that science stuff because 400 years ago there was a scientist who saw things different than the Catholic Church and he ended up being right. So if Rick reads on the Internet about some guy somewhere who thinks that all of the global warming scientists are wrong, well that guy must be just like Galileo and he must be right too. A man who thinks real clear like Rick Perry should oughta be our next president for sure.
@ earth2loons
Have you ever read any history on Germany in the 1930s ?
You should ! Fear is a powerful tool !
DICK PERRY for president, your problems solved with a closed fist
believe me i live in Texas and you do not want this ass hole in the Whitehouse
treasury AND fbi now both in to SOLYNDRA, yet cnn barely mentions it, same for abc, cbs, nbc, huffington, politico, nytimes, msnbc, chuck rose......very little word of it....so curious huh? a MAJOR story that leads right up to the WH and barely a peep.....seems bush put a halt to the impending loan in the month before the election in 08, and a month after the dems win, solyndra's loan is pushed through at lightning speed....now, isnt that just the craziest thing y'all? 500+ million, and the loas was RESTRUCTURED recently to allow kaiser the bundler to get back his money BEFORE taxpayers ,IF they get any leftover...
WOW! and no reporting other than on FOX!
THAT'S why americans turn to FOX and have turned away from the mainstream media and other cable boobs.
Jon,
At the top of this page is a search bar. Type "Solyndra" and you will see a list of articles that CNN has posted about Solyndra. Just because you claim that Fox is the only source reporting on Solyndra doesn't make it so. Perhaps your problem is that you don't watch or read anything other than Fox, and you only drop in here as a troll to make your uninformed posts.
DICK PERRY 2012, big enough for Texas, big enough for the whole USA
Hey Rick you no longer look like the Mr. GQ you did 20 years ago. Instead you look like the slick lying used car salesman
that sold me 1989 Chevy Cavalier that kept breaking down on me.
haha...you bought a cavalier!
I've come to realize that Perry is a perfect fit for what the Republican party has become. He flaunts his religion, his ultra-conservative views, his money and powerful backers. He is, however, an empty shell, just like the Republican Party he represents; all style and bluster, no substance.
And the funniest part is – he will be our next president thanks to, you guessed it – the deluded fool we have in the White House right now.
This guy is horrible. Totally NOT Presidential material. I'm not sure what's worse...Perry's rootin' tootin' secession talk and horrible leadership in Texas (taking the most federal money while hypocritically condemning those who take it), or slimy Romney's ever-changing views every week to pander to whatever gullible audience is in front of him.
Either way, don't you love it? A republican will be president. And the socialist idiot Obama will take his proper place in history along with other failed presidents.
like carter?
Blah blah blah blah! The poor rich people want the poor poor people to suffer so they can be richer rich people !
Reply to: rob washburn
who said "Everyone should take the SAVE AMERICA PLEDGE: I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN EVER AGAIN."
Lets try this again CNN:
Reply to: rob washburn
who said "Everyone should take the SAVE AMERICA PLEDGE: I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN EVER AGAIN."
TOTALLY AGREE....
America was founded on religious principles not atheistic belief. And this country has advanced the cause of humanity beyond any other nation. The book that touched the conscience of the people about the evils of slavery was 'uncle toms cabin' written by a religious lady not an atheist. So where some went wrong others were willing to show them the evils of their way. China today is prosperous because of its trade over the past decades with this country.
DICK PERRY FOR PRESIDENT 2012, Lets put him where it really counts
You people really have no idea how much danger you are in...
We have 46 million people on food stamps that is $68 billion a year.
"The number of people lacking health insurance increased to 49.9 million, a new
high after revisions were made to 2009 figures. Losses were due mostly to working-age
Americans who lost employer-provided insurance in the weak economy.
Main provisions of the health overhaul don't take effect until 2014.
The statistics released Tuesday cover 2010, when U.S. unemployment averaged 9.6 percent,
up from 9.3 percent the previous year.
RAISE TAXES NOW! YOUR CUSTOMERS HAVE NO MONEY & CANT MAKE YOU RICH!
Latest poll I read stated 30 percent of all businesses plan to cut their health benefits when Obamacare moves into full swing. This is nothing new.
DICK PERRY FOR PRESIDENT, TELL ME HOW IT REALLY FEELS
Practice saying "P-R-E-S-I-D-E-N-T Perry". Get used to it.
DICK PERRY FOR PRESIDENT, HE WILL MAKE THE WORKING CLASS BEND OVER
People if you want to become more poorer then vote for republicans.......because Reps are corrupt......like Palin,look what happen to Alaska,but Palin became richest....Rick perry,look at houston. ..teachers are out of job,students are happybecause no school...But Rick perry doesnt care,because he is rich and will be more..and other republicans too are allrich thats why they dont support all Pres Obama plans....well go for republicans...they will win and be ready for your young ones for another invasion of another country that reps are eyeing to
...reps are greedy and liars....
The Republican Party will be glad to escort us all back o the stone ages. They love to hate, and they hate to love, they'll destroy the world with the help of this gov.
This is why we need better pay. http://www.angelfire.com/bug/dugbuglas2/LOWPAY.html
How are they going to make you rich? They make $8 an hour!
@Josh-
sorry, but if you think that crazy Perry is anywhere near being electable, you have another thing coming! And the TeaPublicans will NOT gain control of the Prez/House/Senate! That's nutty! And another thing, the TEA PARTY is on its way out, not growing. I say crazy-Perry will crash & burn, I've said it before. The American people are smarter than you & your ilk are counting on, and the Tea Party will never be be a major force in this country. Even with the Koch Brothers/Rove millions being spent trying to fool people. Ain't gonna happen.
I tend to agree, but after the insanity of Bush anything is possible.
And Obama is better than Perry? I don't like Perry, He gave in-state tuition to illegals to get the Hispanic vote. In reality he's just another power-hungry politician. On the other hand Obama is a leftist just like Hillary, they want to make the USA another member of the European Union.
So are there any Americans you actually like? You sound allot like the Taliban TBH.
Bush 2 .......We're all going to die.
Rick Perry didn't rise at all except on CNN. Of course that's because he's a Bilderberg member!
Pushing the buttons of hate and eliminating the middle-class, Rick Perry can do it!
And then the wealthy complain about having to pay all the taxes.........Priceless.
How much money will he put in his pocket????
http://swampland.time.com/2011/08/17/rick-perry-aggressively-pursued-federal-aid-he-now-decries
Scary!
Dems have their collective heads in the sand. They've allowed the Tea Party not only to form, but to garner power. Now, the special elections have gone to the Republicans. 2012, there might not be a Dem left. The USA is a Centrist Republic. Lean a bit left, and the right will come back to haunt ya.
Perry & Tea Party types makes me think of...
Perry went to a favorable state to campaign while Texas burns! Rick Perry and the state's legislators gutted the fire fighters Budget in this last session and now they are hurting in making headway against the current fires in Texas. This so-called debate was a re-hash of the same BS crap with no real solutions to the job and housing crisis we have. No one really addressed the issues that are on the minds of most Americans and 24% of the black community! This crop of wanna-bees are so wrapped up in themselves, they have lost the people who could vote in 2012! None of these contenders even addressed the presidents' job plan. Bachmann and Romney called Reagan's name to further attention on their comments, and they should be reminded that, Reagan is dead! They can call his name out all they want, he's still dead! Reagan passed more tax increases than they want to admit! Reagan said:
"Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest markets would skyrocket. Instability would occur in financial markets and the federal deficit would soar.
"The United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations. It means we have a well-earned reputation for reliability and credibility - two things that set us apart in much of the world."
Reagan also signed an amnesty bill for illegals.
Reagan was a Republican, not a retard.
Wait, what? Who's the media ignoring? Rick perry?? !!! LMAO. What is this, a jokeful response to the ignoring of Ron Paul?
New breed??? Republicans reborn?? Are you kidding me? Perry is about as close to the Bush ideology as you can get. He is a slick talker though and will probably weasel his way to the nomination. But you must be able to read this man, I am not fooled his words, his body movements all mimic George W 15 years ago. And you can be certain that he would repeat many of the same actions and decisions W made in office. Republicans have the worst track record when it comes to repeating history. The Reagan trickle-down idea is just one of the many ideals that never die.
The only thing you need to know about Rick Perry is that he was a cheerleader in college, a role similar to a beauty pagent contestant (like Sarah Palin). He wants to be the center of attention, and he will say absolutely whatever it takes to get that attention. This guy couldn't govern his way out of a paper bag with a blowtorch. The irony is that when he gets all the attention he wants, the public will see him for what he is and throw him overboard.
Repulicans nominating a governor of Texas is par for the course you knob
I like what one guest, the one with the Texan cowboy hat, said one night on MSNBC, that Perry puts the Goober in Gubernatorial! Too funny! It's wasn't too long ago that one remark that kept popping up was that Michelle Bachmann was dangerous for this country, well now it's said numerous times that crazy Perry would be dangerous for this country too. Isn't it interesting that overwhelmingly, people from Texas just don't like him. He is the king of corporate cronyism. It would behoove us Americans to learn more about him & do our homework....
RON PAUL : UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF AMERICA
The best candidate money can buy.
Now this is the photo of the real Rick Perry. He is wearing a nice Shark Skin Suit and being exactly what he is and that is another Millionaire Republican from Texas. Where do these guys come from? I have nothing personal against him it's just that I am tired of hearing about how they do things in Texas is how things should be done nation wide. There is absolutely nothing in southwest Texas except hundreds and hundreds of barren wasteland miles that has those million dollar windmills on them. Our government needs to relocate all of those people that became homeless when Katrina hit to SW Texas. Maybe they could do something productive with that hot and dry land.
If Gardasil is also approved for boys, why were only girls vaccinated?
Perry is the best pick for the 2012 nomination and he has the record to be a great president for the next 8 years. Even though the mainstream media doesn't like him, we have to acknowledge the fact that he is the best choice. Perry you can do it! GOD BLESS YOU!
Perry can get nominated, but he can't win the general election. The guy is a loose canon with a track record that scares the hell out of independents and moderates. If the republicans have any sense, they'll nominate Romney who will easily run Obama out of town.
Yeah, it would be great if he wins the nomination, because he wouldn't stand a chance in the general election.
I'm pretty sure the republicans will sober up and nominate Romney. Obama is toast.
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6w1YaZdf8&w=560&h=315%5D
it also could mean that the knowledge of other could be the very same as total ignorance .
I particularly would not fall for false preachers who in the past or Present haven't shown sing of having any true heart
Would be nice if people would think outside the box a little bit. Democrats and Republicans aren't the only parties running and in fact they've demonstrated for a long time that neither one of those parties are up for the task. Use that big brain of yours and actually think about which candidates best represent you. Don't be like the rest of the lemmings and vote for somebody just because they have a D or and R after their name.
What is reborn? Your headline? Perry is is W on twitter with a little more gray matter running against a Mormon vs a crazy old man. Ideology wise, it's the same damn thing.
RIck Perry for President!!! I'll be voting for him.
That's the spirit. After Bush how bad could he really be?
Are you sincere or sarcastic? And I think most people were unfair to President Bush. I believe he was a good president.
you mean....after 'obama' how bad could he be. right?
Agreed! Perry 2012!
God, that's scary!
Perry is a complete hypocrite. His policies are completely contradictory....How is it that he mandates HPV vaccination but says we should not base public policy on the "unproven" science of global climate change. Well guess what, the HPV vacccine is "unproven" to be safe. Personally I don't have a problem with the vaccination mandate, but why is it ok to base public policy on medical science but not environmental science considering that there will never be 100% scientific consensus? Could it be that Perry wants to make his friends the drug and oil companies happy without regard for the general public?
When did anyone see any US guy earning 50-100K, decide, because he was paying too much tax, that he'd "uncreate" his job and send it overseas?
We need more poor to show up at the Tea Party's!
Get there any way you can! To any church pastors get a bus
get your flock there!
Get out or lose your help!!!
http://www.allgov.com/Where_is_the_Money_Going/ViewNews/Food_Stamp_Use_up_74_Percent_in_Just_4_Years_110824
Looks like a bunch of Acorn fools marching.
Folks be sure not to make mistake.....but if you want America to be like before vote for Pres Obama,but if you want your young ones to be in war then vote for republicans and be prepare,US will belong to third world countries because of debts....
Sweet Cherry! America was in a much better place before Pres Obama. Obama has done nothing to end the wars we were already in and added to the mix. And OB is the one giving all our money away, has raised our debt four times faster that Bush did in eight years. (Want to be a third world country? Have you seen Detroit? THAT's what America will look like if OB stays in office. Detroit died because of massive liberal social agendas exactly the same as the one OB is touting.).
Messenger nailed you Cheryl. Not much to say to that, is there? Detroit – the Great Democratic Experiment. LOL.
Bush started a bunch of wars, but Obama hasn't stopped them? Is this really your argument for why concern about militarism is a legitimate reason for not voting Republican?
Why does the mainstream media suggest we only have two choices: Romney or Perry? Both are essentially George Bush 3.0, so fellow Americans, if you care about the United States, Liberty and Freedom vote Ron Paul.
He will get rid of the Fed and overhaul tax reform so business can be successful.
Don't vote Perry he is bought and sold like Obama, Bush and 99% of the US congress.
If you care about our troops vote Ron Paul. There is a reason the vast majority of service men and women vote for Paul over any other candidate.
Vote for America, vote Ron Paul
My thoughts exactly.
We need a third party about as much as we need another Bush. For all you're patriotic rhetoric it's an UN-American approach that is all the rage in Europe, and will weaken or government to outside influence.
How well have the parties in charge been doing lately?
Perry is not to be trusted. He used last stimulas monies to balance his budget instead of create JOBS which is what the money was allocated for . Now they have to put clause in next stimulas to close that loophole. GOP will always look for the loophole instead of being honest. If they are so smart where/what is their plan to create jobs that hasn't failed before?
Well, in most cases I would argue that the end should never justify the means. But when it comes to getting rid of Obama, any means will do. He is ruining America. The fool has got to go.
The Perry political machine cant afford to lose, the best face money can buy !
From bank of America to Big oil , to defense contractors , Perry is already elected !
The Perry Machine makes Obama's look like a popsicle stand , you people get ready , this guy is dangerous.
Do you really think this country will elect another Republican from Texas this soon?
Unless Obama dies, that is what you will get.
You have hit the nail right on the head, and if Perry gets that presidential pen in his hand God help us all. I would rather have Adolf Hitler back.
Not to mention perry is a zealot that will most likely start WWIII with Iran. Pray for us all if he is elected. Obama 2012, no other choice out there.
If he starts a war with Iran, that would be the American/Iranian War, not World War III. I know, you meant that attacking Iran would be the World War III catalyst. Don't think so. Let's hope we get out of the Middle East, and stay out. Doesn't look like Obama is going to achieve that, however. Guess it will be up to President Perry.
This is a premature conjecture. Rest assured, as there are more debates, the false celebrity of Rick Perry will diminish and he will be shown to be the dote that he is. He's a typical lying scandalous politician that has no interest in we the people. America does not need more BS politicians in Washington. We need a reformer like the envisioned Obama that never materialized.
Well that is the problem with liberals Andy, always envisioning and never understanding reality.
The religion of most teapartiers gave dignity to mankind what ever your race. While evolution says man is only a highly developed ape and the africans and chinese are the least developed of the specie. Darwin was european.
How many of you people posting negative comments about either party are able to do so because you pay for your internet connection with money given to you by any government or union benefit/pension money? I'm just curious. Maybe using your computer at work, that you think you have free reign of.
at least half of the liberals posting on here traded their food stamps for a PC and Internet connection.
When I read comments like these, I never know if it's a dumb conservative or a smart liberal. Just saying.
That is probably because the dumbest conservative is smarter and wiser than any liberal fool.
and teabaggers pay their bills from profits from the meth lab in the back of their trailer
While we all hope that employment and economy gets better but it is well known that politicians think of themselves first. Obama's job plan can be easily called reelection plan. How so?
If he didn't do anything and economy remained in the pit then there is no chance Obama will win election in 2012. Now, the plan. I like the payroll tax cut and few other things. But it is a spending plan that is going to go down the tube and finally through tax payer's throat. If the 800 billion plan did not work then what is the chance that one one will. When president says 'every penny will be paid for' I think he means our grandchildren will pay every penny.
OK, back to the issue about reelection politics. It is common knowledge that Republicans are not going to pass this bill, at least not the same exact bill. Come next year, the president can argue the Repubs didn't let me fix the economy. So fire them (from congress) and rehire me. Another scenario is he gets his bill and unemployment goes below 8 per cent. Then he can beat the drum beat that he is such a doer.
The only scenario where he looses big is when the 'job plan' gets passed and unemployment remains at 9%. But that is a one in three scenarios. Mr. President would love to have a 67 % ( 2 of 3) chance of getting reelected.
Obama can't materialized with the house against anything he tries to do. The only way is if he can bypass both house and senate to get things done. I don't how he can do that. He also needs to realize that there is no adult compromise like Negotiating with the re-pubs..THEY TRULY ARE THE PARTY OF NO and DISRESPECT..never have i seen such DISRESPECT for a PRESIDENT of the USA...They could disagree w/o being so disrespectful..but they would have to be adults for that.
Well that would make a jobs plan now particularly shrewd.
Yeah, republicans are the party of no. No more idiots in the White House. And no more welfare checks for you. Get a job.
I guess you will never be President then, but I still have chance.
I usually don't even bother dignifying comments, but that was a funny one Scott. Way to go. At least you have some courage to you. Most liberals are wussies.
Grassroots?? Are you freaking kidding me?
get this man a neck!!!!
who's his running mate going to be? ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER!!!!
Yes. ABDULLAH THE TAX AND SPENDING BUTCHER, to be exact. Get the point? Grow the private sector, create jobs, get deadbeat liberals off of welfare and food stamps.
The Republican base has certainly shifted to the nation's trailer park slums. And their candidates have become meaner n' stupider. Used to be I could entertain the thought of voting Republican, but I might as well send by SS number to Kim Jong Ill now.
Please move there. And take your family with you.
Another incompetent fruit loop from Texas? Heck, we all know that history repeats...but after only four years??? Yeeeesh...
If Perry is nominated for the GOP, I would most definitely rather see Obama get one more term. Romney I could see being a decent president, but Rick Perry is nothing but trouble for this country. We'll just keep pushing in the wrong direction with Perry
The exploding popularity of Perry is confirming my worst fears about the future of politics in this country.
The mere fact that a man elected to an executive position can hold a massive prayer rally, and be labeled anything but an extremist whackjob by 99% of the population proves that we're doomed. It's the year 2011-this is a diverse country with shifting demographics, and substantial economic challenges.
Whites in the Midwest/South are steadily proving that they have no legitimate business influencing serious political discussion. They are becoming louder, more uninformed, and more reactionary every news cycle. I'm convinced that very few of them are anything but partially literate, uneducated bigots reacting dramatically to a brown guy with a funny name.
They're seeing a simpler rural, isolated, extremist Christian lifestyle go by the wayside due to a progressively educated and diverse population. Instead of working towards compromise to improve the unemployment and debt issues-they insist on policies that will harm people in the same socioeconomic classes as them.
Are you smoking the bong Jason? Sometimes people under the influence of drugs experience delusions of intelligence and superiority. Or maybe you are just the product of metropolitan schools. That would explain everything.
you racist. what does being "white" have to do with it. go die in a fire.
I can't believe what I just read. Perry being promoted as someone "different" and the idea of banks and corporations losing influence. Am I taking crazy pills? These statements couldn't be more wrong.
perry is an idiot, self serving, look at his record, gives all rep a bad name
Daniel
Fareed Zakaria,
You are a complete hack and an establishment mouthpiece yourself to attempt to define Rick Perry a grassroots candidate. We all know the real grassroots candidate is Ron Paul. I don't think a grassroots outsider would call in the 'Rumsfeld Team' to advise him on national security as the article linked below points out regarding Perry.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/07/rick-perry-presidential-race-donald-rumsfeld-/1
The above article by Zakaria is working to establish a seemingly pre-determined Perry/Romney dual. That is the establishment in a nutshell and both Perry and Romney, dare I actually say every Republican candidate EXCEPT Ron Paul, is generally pro-establishment. Take Bachmann, the former IRS tax litigation lawyer turned tea-partier, what a joke!
RON PAUL 2012 or BUST!!! For true liberty, honesty, consistency and actual revolutionary change, not just rhetoric.
Welcome to the new Age of Ayatollah Perry. If he wins America becomes the next great white Christian state. Nothing wrong with that except Science will be banned and there will be no turning back. America will be the next Iran.
It was white Christian nations fueling the majority of scientific advancement in engineering, industry, electrics, space travel, etc etc for the past few centuries. But I mean yeah, don't let that get in the way of your own bigotry or sensationalism, guy.
Einstein was jewish. Most scientists are atheists. Jesus was a dark-skinned jew from Africa who was a community organizer and preached the most liberal, progressive gospel of any religion. He fed the poor and healed the sick and due to his radical ideas, he was crucified by the largest global corporation of his time - the Roman Empire.
A Letter from Rick Perry -- Introducing PerryCare™
Dear American,
For the last few weeks I’ve been under constant attack. My opponents would have you believe that if I’m elected, you’ll be stripped of your Social Security benefits and will be scrounging for food in dumpsters with all the desperation of a feral cat.
Of course, that’s true. But what they don’t tell you is what I’d replace Social Security with: an amazing new program I like to call PerryCare™.
Under PerryCare™, you’ll receive all the food, clothing and shelter you need, and it won’t cost a dime in taxes. How if that possible? Simple: you’ll be praying for all those things.
As a PerryCare™ recipient, each week you’ll receive in your email box a PerryCare™ PrayerMail™, giving you an easy-to-recite prayer for the bread, milk, cat food or whatever else you need to survive. It’s like a Groupon from God.
PerryCare™ is more than a replacement for that infernal Ponzi scheme that has bamboozled Americans with regular monthly checks for 75 years. It is part of my larger plan to return prayer to its rightful place in American life. I get down on my knees every night and I promise you, if I am elected your President, I will bring this entire country to its knees.
I expect that some of my opponents will laugh at my plan, especially that lawn gnome Ron Paul and Michele “Crazy Eyes” Bachmann. Fine, let them laugh! Laughter is the best medicine. And if I am elected, there will be no other medicine.
That brings me to my PerryCare™ medical plan, which will replace Medicare once I consign that Ponzi scheme to the electric chair of history. I don’t have enough time to go into the whole plan right now, but here it is in two words: single prayer.
Your next President,
Gov. Rick Perry
(FROM THE BOROWITZ REPORT)
RON PAUL 2012!
Ron Paul for President!
This article should be about Ron Paul. I don't care how you feel about him. He's the one who's reshaping the republican party, he's the originator of all these ideas, and he's the one who's winning overwhelmingly in polls about who won these debates. This is such a joke, and it's not by any means just CNN. Isn't anyone else tired of the media picking our presidents? Ron Paul 2012.
I honestly couldn't care less about Rick Perry and I literally don't know any personally who supports his bid for the Presidency. Let's hear more about Ron Paul.
It would be a joke if it weren't such a scary reality. I'd love to know who's writing the checks and writing the agenda for these outlets and their headlines.
Its funny that they do not eve mention Ron Paul in any main stream media. Rick Perry and Mitt Romney are the messiah of 2012 doomsday.
If Perry becomes president, the country will become terminally gridlocked in D.C. and we will be doomed.
I don't think God will allow it.
Let's pray for the "other guys".
Better yet, all liberals move to China.
CNN – Put down the holy oil and stop anointing Rick Perry!!!! There are MONTHS to go before the primaries, and you act like it's all decided. You don't get to choose the nominee, the voters do. Your disproportionate coverage is WAY out of line, and you need to give the Rick Perry lovefest a rest.
You're correct Sugarmama. We should be anointing Ron Paul, not Rick Perry. They're both from Texas but they only one of them is worth it. Ron Paul 2012!
Always trying to keep an open mind, but it's currently an uphill battle convincing me Perry is different from Bush.
Same as G.W.B I never vote for Repub again enough is enough Americans do not vote for this guy again.
If you racists think that you're going to push back against 50 years of progress, YOU ARE NUTS. Most of us have moved beyond that crap, no matter how loud you yell or how confident you try to act. Your type are dishonest, bigoted, fearful, neurotic, and stupid, and try to cover it with loud noise while you await your next heart attack, alcoholic binge or therapy session. If your way of life worked, slavery would never have been abolished, wages, benefits and voting rights would be non-existent, and people like Hitler would run the world. Yell all you want, you still won't win in 2012. Obama/Biden 2012
Honestly I would love it if just once I'd be confronted in real life by one of you crypto-racist goobers and your hypocrite ideas. Lest, your type seems confined to the comment sections of youtube and news sites. Will you ever show yourself in the light, oh mystical creature of the internets?
Here are some facts. Jobs saved by the first Obama $850B stimulus package cost American taxpayers about $275,000 each. And now nearly 2-1/2 million fewer Americans have jobs than before Stimulus I. So, now Stimulus II is being called a "Jobs Bill" instead. And at $450B that equates to an even more impressive $450K per job if your count is the 1 million BHO claims. And, by the way, yes Bush was creating a deficit but Obama has run up the deficit at more than twice the rate Bush did. Neither party is doing us any favors, but BHO is expediting the level of criticality at a blinding rate of speed.
Get your facts straight instead of popping off Fox talking points. According to the Congressional Budget Office, Obama's first stimulus created 2.9 million jobs. Bush increased the deficit by over 88%. Obama increased it by 8.9. Check out the figures from the last quarter of the CBO report.
Blah...blah...blah.. I am one of the rich everyone wants to tax. I employ a lot of people and I'd employ a lot more if consumer confidence was higher. The situation is complex and something has to spur things up and as everyone relaxes a bit and loosens up with their spending things will begin to look up. I don't care if I get taxed more or less. I do care to be throwing money at hiring if the demand for goods and services is down.
Are you kidding me? There is nothing grassroots or new about Rick Perry. He has been in govt for ages, is not even a conservative until it's politically expedient, is a complete globalist with massive corporate backing. How is that grassroots. But then again, fareed zakaria is a globalist with massive corporate backing too. The narrative behind this election cycle is that there are all these virtually identical candidates who are being sold to us as being part of some new movement, though except for Ron Paul they are all cut from the same old neocon cloth. That fact is staring everyone in the face, but most are too busy blindly accepting what they are told by corporate media outlets to ever add the information up to reach their own conclusions.
glad you got that out of your system. And now you get to vote for a loser.
My Pet Goat is equally deserving of the nomination ... MyPetGoat2012 dot com
This article is just more anit-conservative partisan hackery from C.N.N.
Bush tax cuts added about 1.5 trillion to the now 14 trillion dollar debt. Obama's extension brings it to about 2.8 trillion... which represents less than 20% of the total debt.
The debt vanished during the Clinton era because of a booming economy.
dont you americans get it yet? The time for candidates is over- all weak and afraid to speak truth. A common sense Dictator with full power to crush the silly politicians -all of them and get on with bringing back discipline in schools, the strongest military power in the world and the decision making mind to nuke our enemies in middle east and lay their breeding ground waste for say 100 years.. Capital punsihment for murderers, child molesters with no appeals. 20 of the best with a heavy birch for lesser crimes- it works. You americans turn this forum into a comedy – you are not capable of serious solutions so you get what we got-a right mess in all aspects of government or lack thereof.
My Pet Goat 2012
really CNN do you really think we are this dumb that we would vote for Rick Perry
-Ron Paul 2012-
Perry 2012! Mr. Perry is the right man for the job! This current administration is a joke the nation does not stand behind Obama, I have been counting down the days since he was inaugurated its time to take back our country.
Fareed is smartest person on TV, ...
Jesus never told anyone to build a church.
Less inclined to compromise with total, liberal insanity..
America has been in dire need of someone like Perry for a very long time now.
There is still hope for America yet!
Really??? Rick Perry reminds me a lot of that guy George W. Bush. The guy who increased the national debt by 4 trillion over eight years, began the bailout process that Obama adopted, and guided our troops into 2 quagmires, that Obama adopted (and nonetheless ramped up after promising to do the opposite) as well.
So please allow me to give you my alternative opinion:
America has been in dire need of someone like RON PAUL for a very long time now. There is still hope for America yet!
Stop the BS!
When out taxes are lowered no one went to the streets protesting.
When the banks were making 103% mortgage loan offers we democrats and republicans took full advantage of it.
We democrats and republicans took loans against things we didn't need using money that wasn't ours.
Most of us are content with what we have, and avoid risks, traits which will never make us wealthy.
I admire the wealthy, because I know first hand what it took to get them there. I'm just a middle class american who happens to have two extremely wealthy uncles, who through sheer determination and hard work, have a net worth over $100 million. I'm too lazy to work like them.
All this republicans vs democrats nonsense is killing us. We are all responsible for where our country is.I wish someone would do a study of the personal financial health of democrats and compare it to republicans – my bet would be that we are all in the same sinking boat.
The wars were for the wealthy not for anything else. All the security added protects nothing but makes the security contrators billions. The current conflicts are over feeding oil that will make the wealthy even more money and the top Republican thinks that prayer is the way to save the country. Not one conflict except the revenge in Afghanistan was about anything but money and the debt that America owes with interest is owed to the wealthy would want legislation so they pay less tax on this incoming wealth. Why would a wealthy family want the debt paid down through higher taxes and clawing back all these "wars for cash" ? The money is owed to them anyways so a bankrupt America is a hostage cash cow to them and a surplus is nothing but money that they cannot charge interest on. Any job worth anything is being created outside our borders or requires such an expensive education that only the elite are accepted for them if they are allowed to remain in America. 13,600 Americans killed and 135,000 Americans injured "protecting 3000 Americans that are already dead. Over 2 trillion dollars financing this "protection" which goes straigh back into the families that are financing this war that isn't putting any of them at risk , physically or financially.
@Seattleite
Agreeed. Everyone who earns income should pay some percentage of that in income tax, perhaps even as little as 1%. In addition, since capital gains income is clearly income, it should be taxes at income tax levels.
Everyone who earns income does pay taxes. Payroll taxes, local and state income taxes, occupational privilege taxes, gasoline taxes getting to and from work. But if we're going to raise taxes on anyone, really, let's go after the poor. I bet there's some blood in that stone.
yes they are so trying to hide it that Ron Paul is the Front runner because when you really look at these big polls Ron Paul always wins like the one after the MSNBC Debate Ron Paul had over 130,000 votes and the so called front runner Mitt Romney had 30,000 and thats why these big news websites didn't have polls after the tea party CNN debate. the only poll i could find was on http://ipollnews.com/ and Ron Paul KILLED it he had over 17,000 votes, 96% of all votes and i think 2nd was Mitt Romney with a sad 230 votes and i hate it when these news websites like Fox news,CNN,MSNBC etc when they do have polls some only put up Bachman Perry and Romney
-Ron Paul 2012-
Ron Paul will be the nominee. Paul should call Perry on the outright lie that was said on a national debate. He lied saying that he received only $5,000 from Merk when in fact he received $30,000. And millions when they donated almost $400,000 to the Republican Governors Association since 2006, when Perry first became active in the association. Rick Perry is the mother of all pay-for-play politicians.
If Perry gets the nomination millions of mainstream moderate republicans and independents with families and jobs will vote for Obama. Perry is far too extreme and doesn't inspire confidence in those of us who expect competent, intelligent leaders.
There are no black men or women in the tea party. We know better. We can spot a racist a mile away, no matter the rhetoric or facial expression. The tea party is not made up of all races, it is made up of racist whites, period. R racist. white. people.
bigwillie,
what racist free party do you belong to? I would like to join it.
Rick Perry felates the devil.
Gov. Perry is not an outsider. He is a totally sold out apprentice to the Petroleum industry. Romney is more of an outsider as was his father who said he was "brainwashed" – by who? Eisenhower, Nixon and the Bush family.
Rick perry was a Democrat until the mid 80's when he signed with the gop people. Please do your own research on your government subsidised computers and internet connections before posting inflamatory remarks.
I meant to post this as a new thread before but did it as a comment accidentally. We had the unfunded 2001 tax cuts that created no jobs and the unfunded "Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003" that created no jobs, only a bubble (which the republicans won't talk about). Taxes were much higher 50 years ago, unemployment was much lower, one income could support a family, and there wasn't a huge wealth gap. Fast forward 50 years. Taxes are much lower, 2 incomes can barely support a family, unemployment is out of control, and the wealth gap has grown by leaps and bounds. Now use that god given brain and it's pretty clear to see where the issue is. The tax breaks go into the "job creators" pockets. Just from 2009 to 2010 CEO pay for the S&P 500 companies increased on average 27% while unemployment remains high, tax cuts were extended, and poverty in America is near a record high since the great depression.
For all you brainless, mindless liberals out there.. you don't get it do you? The country is bankrupt and it has nothing to do with conservative ideals... understand? Republicans and Democrats have bankrupted the country BECAUSE of their liberal acts... That is what the tea party is all about. Now get off your rear ends and go to work.... oh, sorry I forgot. You all don't know the meaning of that word. Never mind. Go back to your whining and complaining and run to your pathetic nanny state. Meanwhile I will be the fittest and I will help only those who help themselves. It doesn't work any other way. Are you learning anything? Hello? Ok, now go perish like your're suppose to.
Well said Duke. These libtards think the country owes them a living. Go to work. Your advice is right on, however, Oblahblah promised these tards a free lunch. They are crying and whining if anyone or anything gets in the way. Furthermore, we worker bees have to feed, clothe and house these "queen" bees who just lay around the hive laying eggs that only produce more non productive queen bees. Oblahblah, Pelosi and Reid encourage such behavior to hold on to power. As you said, we are broke! Too bad, they don't understand this because they don't work or contribute
or balance a budget. Ever see the food they eat when the get their food stamps? They eat better than we do at the first of the month, then spend the rest on booze, cigs, dope, etc
One last thought...
THIS IS THE MEANING OF GRASSROOTS!
The tea party and their corporate backers are like a guy who comes to the crap table with dice that everyone knows are loaded, then trys to bully everyone else into letting him use them anyway.
August 27th Georgia State GOP Straw Poll has Cain and Paul at a dead heat 26% with Perry at 20%.
August 20, 2011 New Hampshire Young Republicans Straw Poll has Paul at 45%, next is Romney at 10%.
August 13, 2011 Iowa Straw Poll, Hilton Coliseum in Ames, Iowa., Bachmann and Paul at 29% and 28%.
June 19, 2011, Clay County, Iowa Republican Party Straw Poll, Paul at 25%, Bachmann at 15%.
You anti-Paulites can cry all you want, but Paul to date in Straw Polls is leading this year, and the only reason "they" (the establishment) brought Perry in is because actual GOP clubs and parties around the country on a local level show Paul is absolutely annihilating Romney as of late. Perry will wear off once the word gets out more about Paul really -not- losing these debates and polls like the media keeps lying to us.
Is there possibly a more deluded person on this planet than Herman Cain? The only thing I can compare it to was if OJ thought he was going to win that last trial. What a moron.
This is the sort of strategy that could make or break the GOP. The Bush Years were without a doubt the establishment years for the party. The party has turned that corner and has completely embraced the 'culture war' and the 'third awakening' movement in a big way. The presence of Bachmann and Perry at the top of the presidential ticket would not have happened in 2000. There was evidence of this movement in the 2004 election, but it's strong now more than ever. Expect to hear more and more arguments for a back to basics approach to government, including a stronger pitch for the pro-life and traditional values agendas more than ever.
In other words, we should expect to be ground into dust. It will be fun to see how far we fall before the hypocritical "social conservatives" realize that their beliefs have led them straight to hell.
+( God seeks comrades and claims love; the Devil seeks slaves and claims obedience. )+ - Rabindranath Tagore, Fireflies, 1928
Reborn my nalgas.....Rick Perry the defender of life supports the death penalty. This makes absolutely no sense if one claims to be a Christian. The Tea Party has nothing to do about balancing the budget it has to do with keeping the status quo in power and demagoguery.
LOL nicely said...nalgas
Rick Perry is a plant. He his not a conservative. He will amazingly get a lot of money because he works for the shadow government
I LOVE the constant attention the media gives the same 3 people, its great to know there is no such thing as a free media anymore, and our media giants are just puppets. How about you cover someone else besides the failure that is Rick Perry, the only people supporting him are the people with the same mindset that voted Obama into office. People need to wake up and RESEARCH the people they want in office, as opposed of going off of the media's attempts to brainwash a candidate into your mind.
Get a clue CNN, you're just as bad as Fox News.
Want a real politician that has REAL meaning and LEGITIMATE POINTS, check out Ron Paul, and stop being brain washed by the media subliminally telling you who they want to win by ONLY covering a select few.
Please CNN, stop being biased and start covering ALL the candidates, instead of the 3 you 'ASSUME' will win.
A note of pedantry, to strengthen the point:
"Over the last 20 years, there has been a Bush or a Dole on the ticket for all but this last presidential election."
Not merely last 20, but in fact *35* years: the names Bush or Dole was on the Rep ticket in every presidential election 1976-2004.
We really have only one party, the Corporate War Party. It's mission is to serve the global banksters, the war profiteers and the transnational corporations.
The War Party has two wings. The purpose of the wings is to keep "We the people" hopelessly and bitterly divided over absurdities and non-issues. Division renders us impotent. All of our efforts and ideas simply cancel out. Lacking the power to defend our own interests, our situation deteriorates. And since we are taught from childhood to put our faith in war, we react to our decline by intensifying the artificial division, which makes our situation still worse. Thus we are ground to dust by a destructive feedback loop or vicious spiral that is the product of our own ignorance and gullibility.
Funny that GOP needs a trailer trash gun slinger to revive it...
Both the republican and democratic leadership are a bunch of good for nothing morons.
America is doomed, nothing can save it now....
What no one is saying is he likes to mix religion with politics. Never mind that he's an idiot. He is far more dangerous bringing religion into the white house and mixing it with his decisions. He can do that in the state o texas but I don't think the whole nation is into prayer meetings and bible study!
Why work to fix the problem, we can pray it away! Drought? Pray! Fire? Pray! Long wait for a train that don't come.
dominionist & good looking fascism, what could be better?
$2 gas & 25 cent opium could be the deal we need for global fantasy land.
$150M bonds for a Noah's ark mockup in Kentucky, now we are talking real jobs to take back America.
This guy is just a make Sarah unable to put together coherent sentences under pressure. Too bad there are no leaders anywhere in sight that we could vote for.
I don't understand how he's "rising"... Not very many people like him. /mind boggled
You should check your facts and the polls. Ir has been quite entertaining watching one of the greatest presidntal failures in history unfofld before us. People are sick of him. Read the polls.
Rising? He is just new to the media. Once the media is tired of him, he will be "falling." He is no different from Mitt Romney or Bachmann. He enjoys big donation from big companies as much as any politicians. He is a dictator in Texas. Texas now needs money to pay for the fire and he wouldn't release the emergency fund because he doesn't have time to deal with the state now. He is focusing on Washington. He has forgotten where he is from.
Why do all these guys look like they belong on the set of General Hospital?
The Republicans have compromised for the past 40 years and now the whole country is paying for it. We need a serious change in this country!
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It's pathetic and sad that anyone would consider Rick Perry a rebirth when he's basically another George W. Bush which is what killed the Republican Party in the first place. If he gets nominated (which he won't) then Obama will win the election. The only way the Republicans can win this election is if they nominate Romney and he somehow manages to escape mormon jokes and flip-flop criticisms during the general election. In any other case the Democrats will win in a landslide. No matter what people are saying about Obama now, he has a record that will supply him with hundreds of great talking point and nobody will beat him in the debates.
The only ones who would vote for him are those living under rocks and those without TV or radio. His own supporters are distancing themselves from him and have stated he has nothing to run on, except that there hasn't been a scandal under him. He doesn't even have that anymore. My 5yr old knows better than to vote for him.
Say what you will about the Tea Party, but you liberals gave us Bubba Clinton (had no surplus), Carter (hates Israel) and Obama (a statist). How can you defend that? Obama is tanking the country and the middle class – wants only Union jobs. Remember that the Federal government does not create jobs other than government jobs.
Your Country was tanking when Obama came in and prevented a 20% unemployment you ungrateful moron
Still drinking that Obama kool-aid, right? When will you libs get the picture? He is destroying the private sector, killing small businesses. And, please don't give me "the republicans started it" routine. Go back to the 70s and start forward – both parties are to blame for our predicament and Obama just made it worse. If he is re-elected, we are in more trouble than you know!
And all they need now is a Swastika,
If Perry gets the nomination, it will be an election between two profoundly unqualified men, the winner being a placeholder until Hillary runs and likely wins the next election.
Believe me...everything in Texas is not rosy! So we don't have an income tax. Our porperty taxes still kill us. 10 years ago, I paid $700 in property tax. This year, I will pay close to $4,600 in property tax, mostly to schools because the State has cut out most of their funding. Since it is still not enough, most schools are considering doing away with the Homestead Exemption, so they can raise more property taxes. Perry also did not create jobs....these jobs were created by you, all those who put $4-$5 per gallon of gasoline in their tanks. Texas is oil. No matter who the governor is, when oil is good, Texas hires. I don't understand why no one asks Perry why Texas leads the nation in sending outsourced jobs to foreign countries, and not just manufacturing, service and IT jobs are now going to Mexico, India, Far East, and Central America by the thousands. If praying is part of this campaign, then pray that Perry does not get nominated.
And why this so called savior of Texas does not tell the country that his jobs that are good paying and good benefit are fueled by government money. Mostly are defense contracts. That's why the republicans want to keep that military budget because the republicans states are cleaning up on all the government money being funneled there to make obsolete military equipment. And then the rest of the jobs Perry is bragging about are jobs cleaning toilets, and working at places like McDonalds which do not pay a living wage. That's why Texas has the most with out health insurance and is next to the bottom of the country in poverty. Oh Hades yes, this man is wonderful.. as he and the republicans want you to believe, but if you look at the facts you see his state is a failure. But heck fire since when did republicans and tea bags ever let facts get in the way when they want you to believe their lies.
Fraud
I guess poster sealette just can't get over the fact that they have their ears glued to fox and rush. where else in this world would you hear a statement like the wealthy people 1 % pay 50% of our tax base, and the less wealthy 98% dont't pay any.
Since most of the crapola on fox and especially rush make ZILLIONS a year of course they complain about not wanting ot pay taxes. It is the other way around. The ONE PER CENT OF THE WEALTHY FIND SO MANY LOOPHOLES AND DOWN RIGHT CHEAT AND SOME DO NOT EVEN PAY TAXES. The burden of caring for this great counry of ours falls on the middle class and some of the poor. Every single solitary one of the CONservative owned newspapers and cable and network (except fox and the right wing spewers of hate) tell us this every day. Of course those with straw for brains and they ears glued to fox are the only ones in this country stupid enough to believe that the rich even pay taxes. Dumming the country down is one of the reasons the Koch Bros are urging republicans to attack education.
The truth is Perry is the candidate for BIg OIl, Big Pharmaceuticals, and the Defense Industry.
A man that presents a good appearance, home down verbal style and is easliy controlled by the same powers mentioned that also control Media and hence, public opinion.
He doesn't really matter is he is also an idiot, as he has the best handlers and damage control epopel money can buy. As long as he is kept on his leash and can keep his mouth shut except for the sound bites for him to memorize.
He can fool most of the public, especially since both CNN and Fox aare also owned by his handlers, they are and will assist in damage control. .Additionally, AIPAC goals coincide with his handlers as well.
The only thing that will change if the GOP wins is that you will still be under employed with out any help. GOP will repair the economy by crushing half the citizens into dust. US issues are beyond Obama and GOP's control, Time is needed to pull out of this, the question is will you get some help until then or will your suffering be ignored, that is the only choice. When the rich wage war, its the poor who die, and that is over 50% of your country.
You got it. It will only _look_ like the economy is better because the media will report Wall Street's success, the bankers will go to their parties and buy their yachts. The suffering of the working class will go completely ignored and unreported. Yay, I can't wait.
Rick Perry is George Bush in a tailored made suit.
Trickle-down Economics worked back in the 50's... but not anymore. Republicans are on the wrong side of science and economics.
RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!
Note to all Perry lovers. Take off your blinders, please. Rick Perry is a clone of GWB; just another all-hat no-cattle Texican cowboy with zero knowledge of what governance is all about.
A purveyor of smoke and mirrors economics, he creates jobs in the poverty-level service industry and is about as trustworthy as a rattle snake. Anyone who calls the Social Security program a Ponzi scheme is either an idiot or demented, probably both. Elect this moron as POTUS and we start our slide into second class statehood mediocrity and turn the country over to the rich to run as a plutocracy.
Perry is an unelectable religious nutball.
Just ask the people in Texas how good of a President he'd make.
A tes party president would be the death of this nation. I know we are all tempted to get rid of obama , but rick perry is too extreme, thick headed, and plain wrong.
tax cuts have been in effect since 2003 they did nothing for us after 2008 deregulation will have all of our kids with cancer in just a matter of years. not all of course , but the high rates will only get higher and for what ? a job? The GOP is wrong . lets not reward them for their bad behavior.
Not reborn, redux.
Praise Allah are we in HUGE trouble is the GOP is proclaiming its rebirth by way of ricky "dingo baby" perry. I'm pledging my allegiance to Mexico if by some biblical disaster he gets the nomination. If he gets elected presiduhnt then i'm moving to New Zealand...
It is obvious to me CNN wants Perry to be the GOP candidate for President of the United States.
Maybe we should elect Perry, after all we haven't had an idiot from TX lead this country before, oh wait a sec....
Perry will be the nominee because no Mormon will ever be accepted by the Evangelicals who run the Republican Party. Evangelicals don't consider Mormons to be Christians, just as they don't consider Catholics or liberal Protestants to be Christians. Their alliance with Mormons is temporary, just like their alliance with Libertarians (and for that matter, conservative Jews). At some point, the "heretics" will be demonized and purged.
The Tea Party and Rick Perry are reborn Fascists.
You can bank on it: Perry will be the next president. He will easily defeat Romney in the primary, and President Obama is not to the liking of the rabble. I mean voters. Our "democracy" is on the way out because it no longer works. There's too much money, and thus too much corruption. This is an age old story, for anyone who dares to read history. The real question is, what form will our government take, once the current system collapses?
We'll be a corporate fascist christian theocracy oligarchy.
Very possibly.
It's time that we talk about the "f-word" entering the mainstream through the Republican far-right: Fascism.
Patriot Act, torture, warrantless surveillance, stripping away union rights, promoting one religion at the expense of all others, stripping away the right to vote (repeal of the 17th amendment), and even repeal of civil rights protections. What the Republicans applaud with these is not freedom.
Our only hope is RON PAUL 2012.
You are 100% correct!
The rise of Perry is a sure sign of America's further demise. Poor America.
Leave now before it's too late. Theruggedgent(dot)com
I will vote RON PAUL 2012!
Perry is a joke, he was a male cheerleader at Texas A&M.
Perry is a flip flopper. He was Al Gore's campaign manager. Before becoming a Republican, RINO. In '93 he openly supported Hillary Clintoncare. Perry supported forced innoculations which led to the deaths of a number of teenage girls. He attended Bilderberg in '07, making him a NWO puppet. He is anti-gun, anti 2nd amendment. He is for open borders. He supports the trans-Texas corridor which would lead to giving 8000miles of publically paid for roads to a private (foreign) company. He pledged to the Texas people that he would focus on the state and not run for President and has obviously broken that pledge.
RON PAUL 2012
To Space junkie's early postPlease be specific;what have we lost that we must regain? Your comment is very general and I want to understand what you mean. Can you elaborate on what you would change? Thanks
People keep making a big deal over President Obama's poll numbers. Basically, nobody in government is going to garner high numbers when the economy is the way it is. Obama may be hoovering around 44% approval, but congress is down to 15 (yes 15) percent approval. Compared to Republicans, President Obama numbers are actually quite high.
I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it. This will not be an election of positive sentiments. Pessimism and ill-will will dominate, and this election will be like the story about the two guys running from the lion. You don't have to be fast, you just have to be faster than the other guy.
To win re-election, President Obama doesn't have to be popular, just more popular than the Republican candidate. And after America sees that Perry is an extremist who has a spotty job creation record and has made very dangerous and unstable comments, and Romney is pretty much a Republican version of Obama, America will decide to keep the sitting president. In addition, while the media has been piling on Obama as of late, the media hasn't gotten around to tarnishing the Republican candidate yet, and this will happen once the nominee is selected. Also, President Obama hasn't even begun his campaigning yet, and everyone knows how charming and well liked, personally (even by moderate republicans), Obama can be. Lastly, Democrats won't abandon Obama because the absolute worst thing that could happen is to have a Republican legislature and Republican Executive office. Democrats won't allow such Republican domination, and already, Obama's democratic base is starting to shore up. Expect his approval numbers to bump up about 5% when the Democrats start rallying. I wouldn't be surprised to see Obama get consistent 50% approval numbers in mid to late 2012.
So, all of these little insults and petty one-liners from those who hate President Obama are just feel-good measures thrown around by internet trolls and bigots who want/need negative attention, and deep down, they know it. Unless something drastic happens, President Obama will win re-election in 2012 with less than 50% of the vote.
I wish I could agree with you, but I can't. The economy is the only issue in this campaign, and the Republicans in Congress are going to do everything possible to keep depressed through the election season. Swing voters will scratch their heads and vote for Perry, thinking that Obama is at fault.
troy, I like your argument and I agree. I was too young to vote but this reminds me of the Goldwater/Johnson 1964 election. Goldwater was fringe libertarian who won the Republican nomination. Johnson was an untested president and not particularly popular – however, not unpopular enough to be unseated by such an extremist. Also, they said the same things about Goldwater - "Not smart enough to be president". In the end, people will flee from Perry and the tea party will turn out to be a creation of the media and anethema to mainstream voters. The irony is how non-progressive Obama has turned out to be - he's more like Reagan than Clinton.
1964 was a very, very different time. I don't think a comparison between then and now is valid.
This is laughable, nice try CNN
Were all the Rep. candidates STILLBORN?
If oil dropped from $100 to $20 a barrel people could again find jobs, afford their mortgages and heating oil and gasoline, buy groceries, take vacations. Perry is from Texas which has benefited greatly from the high cost of oil. As President, I cannot believe he will do anything to lower energy costs which are central to all our economic problems.
Rick Perry is part of the establishment, why do you think he's so soft and even pro illegal alien ? if you support open borders and want millions more illegal aliens on top of the 20 Million here then vote perry.
Why when I see this picture do I think of Omen Part 3?
We're either in for 4 more years of Mom and Dad bickering, or Mom kicking Dad out and inviting over all of her drunk, chain smoking friends. The american people have already lost, without casting a single vote. Don't bother voting in 2012 because the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. You're seriously misinformed if you believe this back-and-forth party system is doing anything to further us as a country.
This guy is an egomaniac with a Messiah complex. Lets see what Perry has been doing in Texas: since in office unemployment has gone from 4% to over 8%, Texas is one of the lowest states in education and education spending, one third of Texans have no health insurance, all the jobs Perry says he created are mostly from the stimulus that he happily took but now rails against. Guess he forgot what he has or hasn't done while in office. The worst thing about Perry is his belief in dominionism. He believes that his religion should take over everything in our lives and tell us what to do and think. Strange when you think he is in a party that says they don't want anybody messing with their freedom.
Fareed Zakaria is a dipstick for writing this. Rick Perry is about as establishment as it gets, and he is certainly no conservative. I love how Perry and Bachmann both claim to be "Tea Party", but both of them were already in office when we – THE RON PAUL MOVEMENT – started the damn Tea Party.
Time to leave the country.....it has forsaken us....idiots like this won't make things better....
Isn't it a wonderous thing how the democrats raise all kind of hell about republican candidates but are blind to the fact that even with 4 years experience Obama has less knowledge of how business works and why his ideals will never work and only destroy our freedoms and our country. There should never be a domestic reason for a deficit. The only reason for a deficit is a war which cannot be planned out in advace budget wise. Regulations are the real killer of the country and its economy and the Obama administration has added enough regulations to kill off any hopes for a real recovery in the next 5 years. As and example of unneeded regulation Look at Cape Hatteras NC. It is a fishing heaven with one of the best places in teh country to do Surf fishing and yet the best location to do this is on the Cape Hatteras Point which has a length and distance of about 3 -5 miles. The Vast majority of this track of beach is OFF Limits to everyone because of 5 Nesting pairs of birds that are aboutt he size of finches. There are well over 40 uninhabited and accessable only by boat islands between Maryland and SC which have perfect beaches for these finch sized b irds and yet our regulations have Closed these beaches every Summer for a lot of years now. Thsi is simply rediculous and shows how muxch power we have allowed these Government eco nuts to have and this is only the tip of the iceburg. there are many regulations which have made it n bearlky imposible to start a new business or make any money at it because the cost of doing business is simply too high. Yes we need to get rid of Obama but we need to get rid of the senators too
So, you won't be voting for Obama?
So spending hundreds of billions of dollars during the Bush administration on wars that have produced little stability in the Middle East assisted our economic balanced budget? And if you look at the filth that Texas produces with it's refineries, try having one in your back yard! Living near the Outer Banks is a dream of unspoiled beauty and yet you fret over a stretch of beach that is off limits while an endangered species is allowed to regain a foothold on this planet. Before trashing eco friendly agencies that keep your beautiful beaches from being strewn with trash and tar balls, ask your next elected official how much money they plan on spending on wars that have maimed lives forever with little to show for it other than fattening the wallets of contractors for our war machine.
If Perry wins the Republican nomination, wait until the democrats start running ads with Perry's past statements - that's all it will take to defeat him.
Dear Mr. Buffet,
I thought it might be prudent, based on your statement regarding the unfair ratio of income tax paid by your secretary and yourself, to inform you that all checks may be made payable to the Internal Revenue Service. Or, a better option in my opinion, simply cut your secretary a check for the difference. Oh, hold on, how about giving her a raise, then her tax burden would be much less. Right?
This article is about a week too late. Rick Perry's star was rising a week ago, it's plummeting right now.
He is another Bush, arrogrant, rude, does not have a clue, just speaks without knowing the facts, does not know the facts and has no class. The media should start asking his foreign policy and then the stupidity will really be seen.
I find it laughable that so many conservative Christians are staunch followers of the rigid right! Many Christians are struggling financially just as the rest of our society and they forget that policies from 8 years of Bushonomics created the "perfect storm" for our economic meltdown. Yet it is the swagger and disdain that the Bush White House projected toward anyone they percieved were not annointed by God to share the world stage that created hatred toward the U.S. We need diplomacy, intellect, wisdom and compassion from our leader.......not a "bad ass" with cowboy boots riding into town to show everyone whose boss. I am a CHRISTIAN and I WILL NOT VOTE FOR PERRY.
He is arrogrant and rude and might make Bush look smart.
As an Independent, who tends to vote democratic, I would vote for Romney, but willl never vote for Perry.
Obama will win if Perry goes up against him because Perry has no clue and he is uneducated. Obama will lose if it is Romney.
do not be fooled again.....you will regret it.
EVERY party that is not in power refuses to compromise. The fact that the author doesn't know this makes this article irrelevent.
It amazes me how people easily forget the last time we had a STUPID Governor from TEXAS become President.
Be careful what you wish (vote) for . . .