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The Italian practice of having your children stay at home long into adulthood is facing scrutiny in the courts. A Venetian couple has retained the services of a lawyer in a bid to force their 41-year-old son to leave home. The couple, who have not been named, told local media they were “exhausted” by caring for their adult child. They currently cook for him as well as doing his washing and ironing.
"We cannot do it anymore. My wife is suffering from stress and had to be hospitalized," said the father. The son "has a good job but still lives at home. He demands that his clothes be washed and ironed and his meals prepared. He really has no intention of leaving." Lawyer for the couple, Andrea Camp, said a letter was sent to the son, advising him to leave the house within six days or face legal action. If he does not leave, the parents can apply for a “protective order” against the son, who is reported to have an aggressive streak. In 2002, an Italian court decided that adult children – or “mummies’ boys” – could live off their parents indefinitely.
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Sounds like a lot of US Liberals
You're joking! In China children are expected to care for their parents. In Italy it's the other way round. In fact it has the lowest birth rate in Europe.
Now you know why it has such a low birth rate...everyone wants to minimize the risk of ending up with a mummy boy.
Huh? I'm liberal and I've never lived off anyone. Stop with the stereotypes. All conservatives aren't loons, neither are all liberals. Most people are decent and hard working.
Cherly you are wrong. All conservitives are loonies. All libirals aren't.
Of course all Vegan's are loons too.
Each political party does have their own special kind of crazies; it helps define the stereotypes.
You *never* lived off anyone? Let's see, for about 9 months, you most likely lived inside your mother.
@Luigi - way to split hairs.
liberals are just socialist who are too ashamed to admit what they really are...with that being said...socialists are just weak communists in hiding.
@ lan
saying " liberals are just socialist " is really ignorant ... like saying " Conservatives are just Fascist " ... think before you type please
You should learn how to write a proper sentence
then you are not liberal. Liberals milk the system for all its worth, then when responsible people try to step in, the liberals say they dont care about people.
so which are you? you say we as in you are from europe, then you say we as in you are american? sounds like you are just trying to make some silly point by claiming to be both sides of the conversation. Obviously you are an Obama supporter..haha..
Every person I know that's "milking the system" are die-hard Republicans.
American Political parties have nothing to do with the lifestyle in Italy. You only wish you can relate to them somehow. Pathetic.
And you sound like yet another divisive conservative who feels compelled to leave a moronic political comment on an article that has nothing to do with American politics. I guess we can;t expect much else from your ilk. funny how you run off after leaving a snide comment; a conservative coward who can;t have a discourse. Poop and run!
Jackson, who are you addressing?
Luigi, since she replied to Common Dense, it's a pretty good bet that's who she is addressing.
What are you talking about? Liberals tend to want to help other people, not be helped. As opposed to conservatives, which would gladly watch people die than let them have medical care.
BK, since you put "Liberals" at the beginning of the sentence, it's not clear which meaning of Liberal/liberal you used. It appears you meant Liberal but that's not guaranteed.
A Liberal (proper noun) may or may not be generous.
A liberal (regular noun) has to be, by definition.
Look at the people who support liberal causes. They expect to be taken care of. They fight for the right to get "free stuff" from the government. Conservatives are the ones that provide for the Liberals. Al conservatives want is to keep some of what they earn, what they work hard for. In short Liberals are parasites that take from those who work. While conservatives are the ones who work. All you liberals out there who demand free speech, free heatlh care, free education, and National Security and Border Protection, take time out to thank the conservative who provide it for you.!!!
@trcchris3 Your comment is, by far, the most simplistic and uninformed view on either liberalism and conservatism that I have ever heard or read. Even if there was any basis of reality to it, it is obvious that you have neither the education or intellect to support yourself, let alone others, so stop complaining because you're probably getting the long end of the stick. In fact, I'll bet that polyester NASCAR t-shirt that your wearing and that can of cheese-wiz that you're probably squirting into your mouth right now were paid for with my hard earned tax dollars.
Your comment is so full of BS, I am holding out hope that it was sarcastic, but I fear you are serious. There is a reason why people are generally more liberal when they are younger and poorer and progressively get more conservative as they are older and I'll explain it to you slowly, using small words so you can follow along.
People, in general, act in their own best interest. When you have no money, taking money from people who have earned it and redistributing it to those who haven't sounds like a wonderful idea. Unsurprisingly, when it's your money that you have worked hard to earn that is being taken and given to those that haven't worked to earn it, that idea seems far less reasonable.
@pastafaria
What a waste of tax payer's dollars! At the very least our tax dollars should provide for is silk shirts and Brie. Polyester and canned cheese is a waste for sure.
Yeah libtards love to help people with MY money
trcchris3 – I am a liberal. I have a 6 figure salary, and 7 figures in the bank. I am 48, never went to college because I could not afford it. I never took any handouts and pay more in taxes than most without complaining. I achieved my success on my own and am proud of it. Being a human being, I feel it is my responsibility to support those causes that help the less fortunate. I am a proud liberal and I thank GOD that I am not a republican/tea partier who believe in cutting off all support to those in need, support (or encourage) the death penalty, and in general only care about themselves.
BK got the main idea right. Key difference between conservative and liberals is that conservatives don't want to help anyone but themselves, and liberals want to help others. And this 1 simple difference in character results in all the other differences between people, entire political parties are based on this. That's the root of it all.
Close – conservatives like me want to help people help themselves but have no interest in supporting people who won't try to help themselves. I don't believe in a "free lunch" but am happy to work along side someone who wants to better their situation through a little effort. Habitat for Humanity is an excellent example. Invest some "sweat equity" and I am thrilled to support your efforts to improve your life. There is a major difference between someone who is unable to help better their situation and someone who is unwilling to help but wants the "government" to do it for them.
But what happens when money grubbing conservatives (aka the Koch's) take their companies and run over seas with the jobs. Plenty of people WANT to work, but there aren't any jobs out there Believe me. I understand about the no free handouts thing, but what happens when there isn't any money aren't any jobs to make money? Are you going to stand by sipping your wine and eating your caviar while people starve? Or are you going to be like my former boss, who announced our company was cutting 45% of the jobs, then left for a 3 week trip to Aruba the next day?
@Fig1024. No. Your dichotomy is false. Typically conservatives want help to come from private action (non-government), while liberals want it to come from public action (government). A mischaracterization of this difference (as you did) is one of the primary causes of political ill-will in this country. Within both of these stances, there is a lot of variation on willingness of individuals to live up to their rhetoric, as conservatives can easily fail in their personal obligation to provide private help, just as liberals can fail to provide government aid programs to certain classes of people.
No, Fig1024 – conservatives want to help others help themselves...they would teach them to fish rather than give them a fish.
Liberals want to turn Nottingham on it's head without Robin Hood. They would have the "Sheriff" confiscate MORE of what conservatives have after taxes to help those Liberals deem "in need".
See? It's a matter of different goals AND different perspectives! i.e. "He who takes from Peter and gives to Paul can always depend upon the support (at the polls) of Paul.
Brian and OneOfTheSheep, I wish I could believe that, but how can I, when on Republican debate, people cheer wildly for execution of prisoners and when asked whether an uninsured man in critical condition should be helped – they shout "let him die." No, that does not sound like people who want to help anyone but themselves.
"conservatives want to help others help themselves...they would teach them to fish"
Then deny help to them to be able to buy a net.
Fig1024, you said "...in Republican debate, people cheer wildly for execution of prisoners and when asked whether an uninsured man in critical condition should be helped – they shout "let him die." No, that does not sound like people who want to help anyone but themselves."
Once again, it's a matter of perspective. There are some crimes that society does not want the perpetrator ever released. At the same time, it costs more to keep them in prison than to keep someone in college. The person in jail takes from society while the person in college will give back to society. There is never enough tax money to do everything, so the death penalty was once clearly more economical. Today, with the years and years of multiple appeals, etc. it may not be; but there is no way to count the number of sociopaths that didn't kill while committing a crime because they feared society would, in turn, kill them. I fully support the death penalty in the here and now.
As to the "injured man in critical condition", my "gut reaction" could be "that could be me" and how should I apply the "golden rule"? That's simple, in my opinion. There was a time when virtually every young person "starting out on their own" drove without car insurance. Many illegal immigrants still do.
The social toll of having these people ruin the financial lives of others finally resulted in states passing financial responsibility laws. To drive today you have to buy a certain minimum value of liability insurance. It's time we did the same for those who want treatment for a "critical condition". If you're a junkie on a bad trip or get a flesh eating infection from a shared needle, don't go to the hospital and expect me and all the other taxpayers to solve a problem YOU created. If you bought liability insurance, but no medical coverage, and get messed up in an auto accident, be prepared to fill out (or sign) loan paperwork so that the hospital expenses YOU run up do not become the responsibility of taxpayers. If you don't want to sign, the choice to thus PURCHASE treatment is yours, and yours alone!
An intelligent society is structured to save it's producers. Only a society that would destroy itself would structure itself to save those who only take and never give back. It is up to each of us to decide whether we will be productive citizens or whether we will live off of the fruits of others any and every way possible. There are consequences to such choices.
At least your name is right.. Dense. I'm a liberal and I don't live off of anyone. Support myself, do my own cooking and cleaning. Nor do I get gov't subsidies (unlike the lipservice Conservatives in the US)
Hands Off My Medicare!
common dense, you sound like an idiot. Why is it that in the comments of virtually every news story there has to be a moron like you who must somehow equate the story to politics, even when the story has nothing whatsoever to do with politics? Stop being such a jerk.
Well, you're name is appropriate.
sounds like you are a mama's boy and you got evited. And for your info most mama's boys thay i know are conservative republicans so have fun with your little inbred joke.
There is absolutely no difference between "mommies boys" and "mommies girls" living at home into adulthood.. This article is clearly gender biased to the extreme does not deserve coverage other than to point out that rampant gender discrimination in today's society is still alive.
I'm about as liberal as you can get, yet both my kids were supporting themselves and out of my house by age 18. One is 26, married, has a house payment but everything else (cars & student loans) have been paid off. The other is 21, in the military, and has saved more than half his first year's pay.
Teaching kids to be responsible is the act of a GOOD PARENT and has nothing to do with political affiliation.
Kudos Jodi.
And same here. We are very liberal family. Live and let live.
Both my children are highly successful. Both own their own small businesses and are very respected in their communities.
As you say good parenting has nothing to do with politics.
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OMG it sounds like your kids are trying to get RICH! How dare they? The rich are evil, just ask any liberal!
amen jodi. my husband and i are both liberals and we have 3 grown children who all work and support their families. we own are own home and god willing will continue to work for as long as we can. what we believe is that the government is here to help the people. it is for the general welfare of the people, not corporations, not the wealthy only. it is suppose to protect the people from what just happened with the banks and fraud and theft and greed. people who get sick should not have to lose their homes or claim bankrupcy because they have no healthcare or not enough. that is wrong. the death penalty is also wrong. we are in the company of iran, china, and saudi arabia when it come to killing our own citizens. humans make mistakes. eye witness accounts are notoriously faulty. dna results are finding innocent people in prison and on death rows. we are not god and should not be doing this. life in prison should mean just that, life, and yes, work for the food they eat and only work and more work. but i do not mind helping my brother or sister if they need assistance. maybe it would be a better world if we all lived by the golden rule and remember that there but for the grace of god go i.
"WiscBadger – OMG it sounds like your kids are trying to get RICH! How dare they? The rich are evil, just ask any liberal!"
No it sounds like they are trying to be financially secure, HUGE HUGE difference.
......he writes from his mom's basement.
I know the white trash Republicans down the street have had their loser kids move back in. Not willing to work it would seem.
There was nothing in the story about sodomizing blood relatives/barnyard animals, else I'd say it sounds like US conservatives>
Statistically liberals as a group are more educated than conservatives and have better paying jobs... they also pay more taxes and are less likely to be on any kind of government assistance.
Just stating the facts.
If they own the home sell it and move DON'T tell the son where, If not move DON'T tell the son where and stop paying the bills
Oh yeah, well I'm a conservative liberal.... or was it liberal conservative?..... get back with me tomorrow...
....or a lot of conservative mamma's boys
You lying load of crap. Grow up.
Sounds like a brainwashed sheep... How's your wolf in sheeps clothing? OH WAIT YOU DON'T KNOW YOU'RE BEING LED TO THE WOLF'S DEN!
I know the feeling well. I went to court and got an eviction notice for my thirty-something year old son. He had sixty days to leave my apartment. Finally.
Conservatives...first they destroy the economy, then they make fun of it's victims...
if conservatives had their way, the housing crisis would not have happened. Try that on for size...............
try saying no...............wait, that's not a word in the liberal vocabulary.
II have a friend who's daughter is now 25 and hasn't left home, nor pays for room and board, and her 19 year old daughter is following in her sister's footsteps. I left home as soon as I was 18, only going home for retreat and regroup.
Boy, Common Dense, you sure picked an accurate screen name for yourself!
At least the oaf has a job and could afford to move out. The U.S. has almost 15% of all 26-34 year olds still living at home with most having no job and being unable to support themselves. Odd though that Italian courts decided adult children can live with their parents indefinitely, but what do you expect from a society that sues its scientists for having failed to accurately predict an earthquake, and whose leader borders of being a pedophile and has escorts supplied for him by the Italian equivalent of lobbyists?
Well highly different story in the UK now the university fees are £9000/year it's absurd. I am planning on studying medicine next year, I will be at university for 6 years plus one year of training, without a full time job because lectures and seminars and studying will prevent this. And what with house prices at ridiculous levels there's no way I'll be able to afford a mortgage, or even rent for until I've finished studying, so I'll have to live with my parents.
Roomates...
All of that training to be a public servant for socialist healthcare? You must be a glutton for punishment.
I think it's Ok to live with your parents while going to the university, or due to hardship, but it's not Ok to use them as servants. This jerk in the article is abusing his parents, and if he is aggressive as they said, police should put him out of that home by force. Otherwise, this could end up in a tragedy...
and what is your parents think about that?
That is cheap compared to the States. Medical training would be minimum of 8 years prior to internship and residency. Medical school would be two to three times the cost it does in the UK! In the States you are completely in debt for 10-20 years after medical school.
When I went to college, my parents sold the house and retired to Florida. Moving to their new house with them was never an option so I grew up and took care of myself. Once I was an adult, they had no obligation to pay my bills for me.
Only 9,000 pounds a year to go to medical school? That's what - about $14,000. You should be THANKING your government for making it so affordable to get that education. See what sort of medical training you would get in the USA for such low cost. None.
Medical schools in Texas cost approximately 16,000 for in state tuition...a steal for a great education.
Yeah, but you have to live in Texas. Barf.
If parent choose to have children in a world that can't support them, then they desirved to support the people they brought in.
Um, did you miss the part where it said he has a good job??
or that he is 41?
Did you even read the article?
try English............
Why would people even want kids, there a burdin on us all.
Troll
"Why would people even want kids, there a burdin on us all."
I am sure your own parents would have agreed to your statement!
much less of a BURDEN, if THEY'RE taught to spell....
maybe you should ask your parents...they might regret having a THING like you......
They sure didnt teach you English.
what is this-–"I didn't pay attention in English class"day?
Only answer to future and present problems are population control.
Thank you, Big Brother.
Too bad you made the cut then. Clearly it wasn't because of your sharp intellect.
you should have been aborted for starters.
that was excessively harsh
Italy actually has the one of the lowest birth rates and their population is actually shrinking
Italians...what a bunch of Puzzies.
Troll
The guy should have at least paid rent and took care of his own chores. With his job, he should've been out a long time ago. The parents should have put their foot down a long time ago, and not did his laundry or cooked his meals. I'm curious how this all turns out!
You can't charge him rent then he HAS to be evicted. We charge are kids utilities only and they are on their way out as we speak.Right now the parents are IDIOTS for taking care of him. I would change the locks and throw his stuff outside. If he attempted entry call the police.
Careful, this insane libtard view of the courts could occur here in the US too!!
If you have to use insults like "libtard", you must not have much of a real argument to make. I am a liberal by most people's standards, but I choose to agree to disagree amicably with conservatives. Insulting people who disagree with you is a major symptom of what's wrong with this country. Thanks for contributing to the problem.
I have a few suggestions for the parents. first off STOP doing his laundry,, do not wash or iron another item again for him. 2, put locks on all the cubbards and fridge,, have meals when he is not at home. Have friends or lawyer with you at night when he gets home,, and gets upset about having no clean clothes or a nice dinner waiting for him.If he does get violent or aggressive you have witnesses and proof,, then call police.Now comes the fun suggestion. Find out what things your son hates,, music,, food,, etc. Start playing that music loud all the time, You and your husband should get more intimate at home,,,, something no kid ever wants to see,lol Find some loud abnoxious friends that annoy your son,, have them over alot. Make your home the last place on earth he wants to be. Also nagging and yelling alotr drive people away too. Also any scents he finds gross,, make your house smell like it. Or get some new pets,, have them do potty training in his room.. get him a cat that likes to mark territory and keep in his room while he is working.lol Point is make it so he does not want to live there,, and h will get the point esp after you stop being his slave.
Haha All that would work.
Yeah but it said he has an aggressive streak. Sounds like he's smacked his parents around once or twice, best not to purposely antagonize him.
I figure he's already antagonized by the filing of the lawsuit. Nothing to lose at this point.
And change the locks on the doors
sounds a bit too nazi to me..
epicjourney, good one. How'd you become so witty?
Anyway, between this and the lawsuit against the scientists I'm starting to feel much better about the US courts.
what's this? Only in Italy
Some parents allow this for years and when they can't take anymore they want to blame their children. This guy at 41 should at least have a girlfriend and live with her in some apartment. But since girlfriends don't cook or do ironing anymore more this looser is taking advantage of his old mama. What's shame!
the word is "loser"
" In 2002, an Italian court decided that adult children – or “mummies’ boys” – could live off their parents indefinitely." ??????????????????? how is this not suprising.
This has been going on for centuries over there – rents are so high in the larger cities he'd be unable to do anything else. He sounds like a passive-agressive bully which is why he is not married – must be obvious to any ladies. Stop serving his needs and install a nanny-cam to record his actions. Call the police if he threatens them – I wonder what his employer would think if they found out what he was doing to his parents? The only danger is from a violent reaction and the parents sound like they want to avoid that. Legal eviction sounds like a good solution.
That is whata libs want to do here...never happen.
I noticed a trend here.
Most of the people screaming about "Libs"
cant even consruct a coherent sentence.
But dey be smarta dan me.
name one place where what you consider to be a "lib" has ever said this. One place. "we want all our kids to never leave home". is that a party line for some liberal party we are unaware of? You sir, are an idiot.
That is what libs want to do here...never happen.
Better to be thought of as an idiot in silence, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
As far as i'm concerned if you are old enough to be classisfied an adult (16, 18 or 21 years old) then you can be kicked out of home.
Why complicate matters, get out and enjoy the freedom, i'd rather ret and be poor than live at home all my life!!
..these people need to be pushed into what so many of us do as the next healthy step in life.
What 16 year old is classified as an adult?
It's more likely our gov't will enact a law forcing us to care for our elderly parents. The cost of nursing homes is over 120k a year and this means the gov't would save a fortune making it a law that children must care for their parents until the children's money runs out.
You just watch.. it will happen.
It's an honor to care for my MIL, whom I love dearly, but my own mother sat by while my brothers abused me and I'd rather go to jail than care for her.
What the hell did these parents do to this kid that he thinks he should stay home and live?
There's nothing wrong with grown children living with their parents, so long as the situation is mutually agreed upon. If the house belongs to the parents, then under any normal property rights I would think they would have the right to throw him out. If he is not a legal owner of the house, then the should just be able to call the cops and say they have a trespasser. If he does have a legal stake in the home then that is a different situation.
As far as the chores, his mom could just not do them. If he is "aggressive" or threatening as a result, call the police.
What if the police won't come for such a call? I lived in a European country where the police would not come in answer to a call about abuse in the home.
That's a fair point. I think Americans take it for granted that our police will come to almost any situation if called. In fact, the US used to be much like Italy in this respect, where domestic abuse was ignored as a family problem. A lot has changed in recent decades.
The parents should sell the house and load up the Winnebago and tour Europe for several years. That would reduce the stress.
Mesomad, I'm signing you up to be the first to use retro-active birth control, as I'm sure your parents feel the same as you.
While he's at work, his parents should change the keys and pack his bags. Then they should tape a note on the door indicating the address of their attorney where he can go and pick up his belongings.
41 years old?!?! If he at least helped paid the bills or did chores around the house, then MAYBE he could still stay. Apart from that, it's obvious that he's both a bum and a freeloader!
Unfortunately, that situation has become commonplace in Italy. Sons are generally spoiled and their mothers put up with waiting on them hand and foot for reasons we Americans find hard to fathom. Then you have to pity the woman that agrees to marry the overgrown child. She is doomed to be compared to how well his mother cared for him...by both him and his mother.
I don't believe the parents can be required to wash his clothes or prepare his meals. My strategy would be to make him as uncomfortable and unwelcome as posiible. He would have to wash his own clothes and prepare his own meals as well as buy his own food. It i shard to believe the court ruled in favor of the dead beat son.
That would work IF they were not afraid of his reaction. The article says that he has a temper.
Actually its the breast feeding thats killing the mother
I DONT KNOW, BUT FROM READING ALL THESE COMMENTS IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT POLITICS. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE PRICE OF BANANAS? I MAY BE WRONG OR UNDERSTOOD INCORRECTLY, BUT I HOPE I AM RIGHT. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO QUESTION ME.
Dude, why are you screaming?
cuz, if you don't type very well, it's easier to just put the cap button on and leave it. natch.
Marce: you are right it became a political arena ...this is about adults living with the parents is nothing aboyt the liberals or conservatives it is nonsense!
Marce, my thoughts exactly, all I read was about liberals and conservative and the article was only about a guy in Italy who lives with his mum and dad.....
our civilization has spent decades ridding the world of "manhood" in the name of a gynocentric – or is it androgynous? – paradise; why should we be surprised that men never become men? The education system fails them, the popular culture portrays men as stupid, feckless and weak, and the courts rob them of their roles as fathers and guardians. We have spent generations now producing weak men in the west – and are stunned when they become precisely that.
Speak for yourself...
Why is the EU trying to bail out this country?
Because its economic collapse would cause extreme reverberations and strain throughout the rest of the economies of Europe?
Italians......useless.
This words show the high class intellect of your country! Have a look to your magnificent history of (what 2 centuries?) and the state your society is...stupid people just generalize...but what else has to be expected after reading all this intelligent comments...
I agree that his comment was stupid, but you just took one person's stupid comment and applied it across 300+ million people. Clearly there are stupid and shortsighted people in every culture.
For me, the worst part is not that he still lives at home at the age of 41 ... it's that he expects his meals to be prepared and his clothes washed & ironed- as if he is still a little boy who can't take care of himself. I don't know how it is in Italy, but here in America, I grew up with chores. You start with dish washing or lawn mowing ... whatever. The older I became, the more responsibilities I was given. I had to pitch in around the house and once I was old enough to have an actual paying job, I chipped in toward certain bills. I was 26 when I moved out on my own (which is still late by some standards). My parents didn't want me to leave! The guy in this story is a jerk. I think if the courts succeed in getting him out, single women need to stay away from him. He'll just latch onto a "new Mommy."
SON MUST BE A REAL PUS&&**SY,I BLAME HIS PARENTS FOR LETTING HIM STAY AS LONG AS HE HAS
Yes Italian children live at home well into adulthood especially boys but what was not noted was the main reason this practice started which is the cost of housing in Italy there are few rentals and most if not all real estate sales are done in cash. So the children tend to stay until they are married and can afford a home. But this 41 year old needs some tough love.
We have the same thing in the states its called college kids
College kids don't tend to be FORTY-ONE (41) YEARS OLD! What a bum this guy is... I hope his parents get a restraining order and he breaks it and has to sit in jail... then he can become "Tommy's Boy" instead of "Mommy's Boy"! What a Maroon!
sounds like a fiscal conservative, spending someone elses money, while trying to blame a liberal for doing the same.
Im sure their son could find other folks his own age and all get a house together and start living away from their parents.
Wow and his mother still irons his clothes? lol
Uhhh... HELLO!!! STOP COOKING AND CLEANING FOR HIM!
that freeloader needs swift boot applied to his behind! This guy is an extreme case but I know many pampered darlings who "know" they are God's Gift becaue of the way they've been indulged from infancy. I bet this guy got special treatment from birth so he expects and demands that it continue.
.BUT, Italy is not the only culture that fawns over precious sons, treating them like little princes. Look at the Middle East where men have life-and-death control over women.
I wonder if their son's name is either Dale or Brennan?
hey johnharry! ya got the roles reversed - Liberals historically spend/give away other people's money t0 buy votes.. just look at the give-away programs pushed by Govt when Dems are in control. I am aconsdervative, will gladly helpout someone in need UNTIL they quit trying to help themselves and demand I/taxpaers support them, That is the difference, sir. Cnservatives are willing to help the less fortunate; we are NOT willng to support them indefinitely when they are able to fend for themselves.
Forget eviction, that son needs a good ol' fashion beating. If I was nearby, I'd volunteer.
conservatives complain that liberals want to spend all their money. however if you check the statisitics, the liberal states are paying for the conservative states
ynotryme, thank you. I am so tired of extreme conservatives trying to force their notions on government on me, while they spend my tax dollars to do things I find offensive and dangerous, all the while claiming big government is the problem. Big government isn't the problem – YOU NOT PAYING YOUR FARE SHARE WHILE TELLING OTHERS WHAT TO DO IS THE PROBLEM! You know why New Jersey has some of the highest property tax rates in the nation, and why Governor Christie has to ask the fed for disaster relief?? Not because we are a grand liberal utopia where socialism rules, but because we only get 61 cents back for every dollar we give the fed. Dead last in the nation. For every extreme conservative who lives in any of the 32 states that get more than they give... you might want to think what your community would really look like without us "libtards' from NJ, NY, CA, etc. subsidizing your existence. You want smaller government – GREAT – I'm completely fine with all those federal taxes staying in the Garden State where they belong:)) Perhaps it's time for the representation in the house to be based on contribution to the country, as opposed to basic population...
He demands? Who is the parent and who is the kid? Stop doing all of those things....he will eventually leave.
Ma che mammone schifoso; time for the lazy jerk to get out and grow up!!!
Brava! Fa veramente schifo!
The only way to handle kids like these (which are the minority) is to throw them out! If he's aggresive, sure you'll find some support in the neighborhood to kick this sucker in the a... if you can't handle it by yourself.
Sounds like Italy has the right idea. You think you're just so great the world needs your little whelps? Fine. They're YOUR problem. YOU raise them to become productive members of society or YOU keep them under your roof. Why should the rest of us have to pay for your child's welfare because you brought a loser into the world?
The parents should burn the house down while the guy is at work, then he'll have no choice but to find his own place.
Going to go out on a limb and guess that would probably not be a wise decision...
Yes, that would show him.
How did you idiots get into a debate over American politics on a story about an Italian deadbeat?
We should take care of our parents ,"a mother can take care of 10 children ,whycan't 10 children cant take of one mother?
My and my brothers took care of my mother until she die,and I know my children will take care of me!
Many cultures accept the idea of given anf receiving!
In this case this is a 41 yearl old man he has a good job, he is old enough ,it it otrageous he still expecting his parents to take care of him! It is okay with me if my son wants to leave in my house for economic reasons ,but not to expect me to do his lanundry or cook fro him that is epocs ago!
I say pack his crap up, put it out on the road and change the locks.
Why don't they sell the house? Then they can move and not tell him where they're going.
An ex-boyfriend of mine still lives with his parents, as does his brother. The ex is going to be 44 soon, and his brother is 40. The parents do all the cooking, cleaning, laundry, ironing (even t-shirts!). Mom even prepares his lunch to take to work. As far as I know neither pays rent. The ex complained that he couldn't afford his own place with what he was paid, but lots of people rent cheap places and look for a better job.
I would have kicked them both out decades ago! Mooches.
Why were you with this man long enough for him to acquire the moniker "ex-boyfriend"?
Why don't they just pick up his stuff, drop it on the front lawn, then change the locks? Weak parents.
Guy deserves to get his a$$ beaten.
Seems like the right time for an "eviction Italian style"
come on Situation, didnt you get some money from MTV to move out
Is LATE term abortion legal there?
What is that old saying: you reap what you sow?
Exactly!! Had they been making him do chores from the time he was potty trained, he'd either have moved out, or been paying rent, doing his own laundry, helping with cleaning, pitching in on groceries, etc. My 11 year old does his own laundry.
It alover , Not just italy. the economy sucks all over the world, There no jobs, or don't get payed enough. Unemployment is out ragus, it alot more then9.10 perscent as the goverment states it, they are lying like always.
Another prime example of the "needs of the few," outweighing the "needs of the many."
Witness the USA, where fully 47% of the WORKING adults pay NOTHING to run their government, and only a tiny fraction of what their tax-payer sponsored retirement & medical plans will cost.
Will Durant is turning in his crypt.
It not that they pay nothing. First of all, you're referring only to federal income tax. And current tax laws give a large earned income tax credit to low income families, which means that what they do pay in income taxes they get back. They're not avoiding paying taxes. They're being sent a check from their government with the money back. Reagan implemented this as a way to reduce the numbers on welfare, and it has largely been effective. And, of course, these people do still pay payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, gasoline taxes etc. Also, a sold portion of this 47% aren't poor people at all, but the super rich finding way to avoid paying taxes.
"In 2002, an Italian court decided that adult children – or “mummies’ boys” – could live off their parents indefinitely." HUH?? What is the logic behind such a law??
It's a different culture with a different logic. You probably think though that the only correct logic is yours.
There is nothing wrong in parents and children living together, as long as boundaries are observed, and everyone carries their share of work. In this case, since the son is having a job, why not get him married, and have the daughter-in-law move in too
Or if he does not want to get married (or perhaps, understandably, no sensible girl wants to get married to him), he should arrange for a housemaid help 
Seriously, though, Europeans and Americans can become more close knit in families. While not having to tolerate children in their forties, at least parents should feel responsible and watch out for their kids until they reach adulthood. This will create a better social and safer enviroment for all!
Seriously, though,
The article is about a grown man living with his parents. Please show me any reference to politics in that article. Why do people always bring politics into the simplest sh%^.
Actually the article does make note of governmental position for children to remain at home in a court case as noted in the article. obviously a man being the king of his castle does not apply in italy. Looks like the government rules a mans home there. Much like the liberals want to do here in the USA!
I am the father of a soon to be 19 y.o. who is away at college. I would never mandate he move out nor insist he has to pay rent. I will have to pay the mortgage whether he is living there or not. Maybe coming from South America we perceive ties to family differently than North Americans, but the American notion of your child is to be cast off at 18 is a bizarre notion to me. I would like for him to be as prepared financially, emotionally and psychologically for the challenges he will face once fully independent.
Drown him in the canals
well they make their lives so good, they cook, do their laundry, etc, if you want them out, make them do their own clothes, cook for the parents, do the dishes, mow the lawn, and if mom and dad run around the house naked and do it in every room, they would move out on their own.
Easy solution. Stop doing his laundry. Stop cleaning his room. Stop cooking him meals. The father/husband should begin taking his wife/the mother out to dinner each night to avoid the son. Another possibility.....sell your home and move into a one bedroom apartment. Or better yet take the money and go on an around the world cruise. Do not leave a forwarding address.
This is coming from a mom who allows her children to live at home rent free. They have full time jobs and pay their own bills (car, gas, insurance, clothing, education loans, etc). They do their own laundry, buy food for meals whenever they come up with a good idea (which is pretty often), expect them to keep their own rooms clean, clean the kitchen if I cook and to help me when I need it. I see no reason for them to spend money to "live independently" if they are going to be over here all the time anyway. However, we can afford it and not everyone can so this cannot be applied to everyone.
What horrible parents! The bible strictly forbids taking people to court, especially your own family! Shame on them. I hope the son gets whats coming to him, like a third the value of the house for living with his parents for so long!
Yep, what horrible parents, that they waited so long before the try to get rid of him! Stop the bible nonsense as this should just be commonsense living on your own once you have your own job.
Waited so long?? Who said that? You don't think he deserves something for keeping them company all that time? Sounds like he works all day, then keeps them company all night. I think once they could show him that they were emotionally self-sufficient then he'd be happy to move on. Showing they have a legal-minded mentality to sue one of their very own, yeah though their own son, shows something is seriously lacking with their mentality and sense of judgement.
The Bible never forbids taking criminals to court, family or otherwise.
well first, he's not a criminal, more likely a saviour, for keeping them company. secondly the bible is against taking fellow christians to court, how much moreso then one's own nuclear family! (1 corinthians 6:1-8)
A bad son. He should be jailed.
lol
@runforthehills
He's not a criminal? Maybe not in the law sense but if he needs to suck his parents out and put them under pressure (aggressiv) sure he is criminal and whatever the bible (or any religion) is telling, could be the reason for the crap state of our societies.
Italians are ridiculous
yes? and you think you're not?
Americans are pretty much forced out of their home at a super-young age. In Europe, it is much more family oriented and much more of a eye/mind opener. We live with our parents as long as we need. It is ridiculous to allow an 18 year old to leave home, especially when they are not mentally, emotionally, or financially fit. It bothers me so much. Then we have all of this debt.
i agree totally. the hard working americans don't even get it. heck, biology studies show the human brain ins't even fully developed until 25. besides, species with the longer upbringing times are the most sucsessful throughout recorded time. and lasts, why this american drive to tear families apart? throughout the world families stay together their whole lives! a lot longer than just 41.... These americanos want to destroy the world, by tearing families apart, and forcing their agression onto everyone. sounds like these italian parents are just a little mentally/emotionaly challenged, or were influenced by some americanos
the italians are the laziest mofos in europe, most of them live w/ mommy & daddy until they are in their 30's & everyone takes the whole month of august off...
keep your political discussions off this board pls..
" Conservative' "Liberal" .. you sound ridiculous, do you even know what those terms mean?
who are you to give such an itelligent statement?! (another generalizer...) then let's get rid of the whole country... and once we already started with it, let's get rid of the US (which is basically the worst country, oh no sorry, second worst country after N.Korea), the criminal swiss and so on and so on... you super intellectual people didn't realise yet, that you find a***holes everywhere, but I know, it's easier to generalize as the germans did in 2nd WW or some idiots in the middle east are doing now...
the ignorant leading the blind
LMAO...A 41-year-old son still living with Mommy and Daddy? And what else? Is he also the last male virgin as well? What a JOKE!! I moved out of my Parents' home when I was 18, right after graduating high school. Then I went on to college and made something of myself. But a 41-year old? HA!! HA!! That is just too funny!!
good for you. but how much damage have you done? how many people have you screwed with your greed? how many brain cells did you kill by 'gettin' out and partying' so much. how many girls did you use? and what about your poor parents that you abandoned? how are they now? so you ran off and joined a cult huh? pobrecito hijo. i hope your kids, if you have any one day, don't grow up to abandon you in your older age, like you did to your family!
It's his right to stay at home. I'm not sure if this applies for Italy as well but...According to the charter of human rights, nobody can be forced to leave their home. It applies for all. They are 3 adults. Regardless of family affiliation. If the parents are the ones who are dissatisfied – and they are, they should be the ones to move out. He's not their son anymore he's an adult and they're not his parents anymore they are adults. Living together in the same home for all their life. You can't just say the parents are superior I could say the opposite! Parents should look out for their son as much as the son should look out for the parents...Families should stick together and work it out peacefully without resorting to law...SON: Seriously Mommy, Daddy! Move out! If you're unhappy!PARENTS: No it's our home YOU should move out! SON: But I've been living here all my life...It's my home too! PARENTS::NOT ANYMORE!!! SO apparently the home your born in is just a rental?
I just want to add, children who are born into a home...But it isn't their home for life? So children are really homeless after 18? That doesn't sound right. I don't think the opinions of masses should shadow what is right and wrong.
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