On GPS this Sunday at 10a.m. ET/PT, we've got a blockbuster U.N. General Assembly show for you with must-see conversations with three key global players. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is the most transformational Turkish leader since Kemal Ataturk, and he’s fast becoming the region’s great powerbroker, straddling East & West. Also on the show, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso tells us how he plans to fix the euro. And, finally, a look at how the Kremlin sees the world with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.
Erdogan on Israel
Recep Tayyip Erdogan: Here's what's being said - and this is upsetting to hear. They say that Palestine is bombing and disturbing the people of Israel and many Israelis have been killed. I'm very clear in my remarks; I would like to see accurate statistics of how many Israelis have been killed by the bombs thrown by Palestinians or with the rockets that were launched by them. 10, 20, 100, 200? How many? Please document it. Let us know.
But on the other hand, we know that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were killed. Only as a result of the Gaza attack, thousands of people were killed. These are very clear remarks.
The Israeli people are only resorting back to the issue of genocide in history. And using that genocide, they are always acting as if they are the victims all the time. We said, for that, go ask Germany to pay its dues and they have. So Germany has paid and is still paying its dues to Israel.
But neither Turkey nor the Muslims in the region have such a problem. They have never exerted such cruelty on Israel. But Israel is very cruel in that regard. It shows no mercy.
Erdogan on shifting alliances
Fareed Zakaria: The question, though, that many people have is, are you taking Turkey down a different path than it's been on since the time of Ataturk? Are you taking it on a foreign policy that will be not pro-Western anymore, that does not see its historical destiny with the West, that is more Islamic, that is more populist? When you go to Cairo now, you have become a rock star. There are big photographs and posters of you because of your embrace of the Palestinian position. Is this a new populist Islamist Turkish foreign policy?
Recep Tayyip Erdogan: Mr. Zakaria, I'm not a rock star, I'm a politician. But I can say very clearly that, look, everything that the Western world does is not necessarily right. We work on adopting the science of the West. We work on adopting whatever has been developed and whatever is beautiful in the West. But let's not forget, there are really beautiful things in the East, as well. Do not leave the Eastern parts of the world aside.
We are always running after science, after intellect. We seek out knowledge from whichever part of the world that is most advanced. Then we extract and adopt it.
Erdogan on President Obama
Fareed Zakaria: You've had a lot of dealings with President Obama. How does he strike you as a leader on the world stage?
Recep Tayyip Erdogan: Personally, Barack Obama is someone I really like. And vis-a-vis his policies and his implementations, I want him to be much more successful. When he assumed the office, there was a huge economic difficulty on his shoulders. Had he surmounted those economic difficulties, he would have been much more relieved today.
And at that point, in the general elections that are going to be held in about 400 days, I wish him the best of luck, because I've had the chance to get to know him better, one way or the other. Whether it be our mutual and bilateral talks, whether it be our talks on the phone many times, we're very frequent, actually, even more frequent than we've ever been before.
From a strategic partnership to a model partnership, Turkey and the United States have taken relations to a much higher level. I don't know who the Republican candidates will be, but, of course, we shall always respect the choices of the American people, because the relations between America and Turkey, whether the Democrats or the Republicans have been in office, have always been very positive.
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Fareed Zakaria, when a Turk speaks of others comitting a genocide, why do you stay numb and not confront him with Armenian Genocide. Where's your journalistic integrity?
Jack Spenecer:
Because what you mention did not take place.
It wouldn't "take place" if you succeded to kill them all. Unfortuanetely, for you, some of them lived to tell the tale...
Out of patriotism you wouldn't tolerate anything said against Turkey! Indeed under the AKP Turkey is seeing a renaissance of Neo-Ottomanism – increased influence in North Africa and the Middle East. I do support Fareed's caution not to mention the Armenian incident during World War I, as his time with Erdogan was limited.
To be honest, Gül is a better diplomat than Erdogan, who can lose his temper at times.
Where do you live? On Mars? You can't re-write the hystory. Your people slaughtered indiegenous Armenians, stole their real estate and looted their treasury. It's a fact and denying it is even bigger crime.
The Turks are trying to reestablish their empire! They have killed more Muslims than Israel and all other Western countries combine. Stop the Turks or we are going to find ourselves with an Iran like killing machine threatening Europe and the middle east.
that's factually inaccurate. perhaps you ought to do some research first.
The so-called Armenian genocide is as bogus as a three-dollar bill, it never took place. What took place was a war, Armenians betrayed Turks, sided with enemy forces, and attack from within the empire at the weakest time of Turks when they were at war with multiple nations. They started massacring Turkish women and children when men were at warfronts, which you wouldn't mind if they succeeded if they won because you are an arch enemy of Turks and Turkey. However, they miscalculated, it backfired, Turks were able to open another warfront and fight back, and won the war against Armenians who started it. Armenians brought it to themselves, they suffered the consequences of their own actions. Any other nation would have done the same thing, in fact any other nation did the same thing whenever same or similar situations arose. Armenians were no longer trusted or welcome in the empire, very naturally, so they were kicked out of the Turkish borders for very good reasons. Losing sides of wars are not genocide victims, especially if they are the side who started the war. Winning sides of wars are not genocide committers. You are all getting carried away with your lies and false propaganda. Some third parties just believe what they hear, it's ridiculous, you have to question what you really know. If we go with such mentality, every nation is both a committer and victim of many genocides in the past. Everybody needs to get real and get back to their senses.
Because then there wont be any discussion if you mention something that happened or not 100 years ago. He wasn't even born then.
According to your opinion then every leader US, France, Britian, Germany, Spain etc shouldn't talk about genocide, human rights or democracy because the history of these nations are full of genocides, massacres, killings etc...
What about present day oppresion of kurds? Turks who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...
Yes what about the Kurds... all citizens of Turkey get free health care, free education (college included), bread, milk, water are subsidized. Do you get any of that in America?? One more thing... I went to school in south Florida and my school was pretty old. There were these 2 water fountains built in the 50s, 1 for blacks and 1 for whites. Do you think Turkey ever had a system like this?? Not today and not 60 years ago when America was extremely racist. America might have had its 1st black president today but Turkey had its first Kurdish president 20 years ago. I think someone was speaking of glass houses earlier... right.
Alan: You are major hypocrites. If Mexicans formed a terrorist group in southwestern USA, asked for education in Spanish, started killing innocent civilians and asking for freedom, what would your response be? You would tell them to adapt or leave and go to Mexico, they would naturally be subject to harsh military response. But when it's a different country, you don't ever fall short of considering supporting the terrorists. The situation in Turkey is not at all different, Kurds have a de-facto state right next door over the border in northern Iraq. Kurds are of Arabic breed, they feed from such troubles they create, they will never be peaceful. If this was over, they would want more, they would still attack Turks and other neighbours. Try to think clearly for once in your lives by putting yourselves in the situation, thinking what you would do if the same scenario took place in your country and how you would respond and such, then post. Of course most posters on here are Kurds and other anti-Turkish nationalities, they are hopeless cases, you can never explain anything to them as they will not think with a clear mind or change their opinions, this post is for the misinformed and biased/brainwashed third parties.
I could respond that behalf of Zakaria.
Basically, it is your burden of feelings, when you are supporting one side.
Remember, those places you have in your Mind, have Official Governments and representatives who knows all sorts of problems inside-out, better than we know. Therefore, who are you to declare Genocide? We never heard it from their Governments. Of course, when there is a War, there is death as well. War doesn't mean going for Party or visiting Disney World. I know, if it is the other way around, you might be happy.
All these are considered miserable lies for the turks...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Genocide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_Pogrom
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP5.HTM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_invasion_of_Cyprus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people_in_Turkey
etc. etc. etc...
Do we have a list of western and jewish crimes in Judeopedia?
The Turks are trying to reestablish their empire! They have killed more Muslims than Israel and all other Western countries combine. Stop the Turks or we are going to find ourselves with an Iran like killing machine threatening Europe and the middle east.
The Turkish Ottoman Empire ruled tens of nations for half a millenium, centuries before United States even existed. Like any other major empire, they are accused of all sorts of atrocities. Given the times when the most peaceful nations on Earth today, the Scandinavians, were even vikings, even before the American Wild West rules, humans were much more barbaric, this was not limited to Turks at all. Turks won the wars against all these nations who have been crying and coming up with stories ever since. Losing sides of wars do not enjoy it as if it was a video game, hatred forms and carries on. Every nation had wars in the past, most moved on, some lame races such as Armenians and Greeks just keep it alive, exaggerate it, twist it, try to change history. Unfortunately these are the nations who are destined to fail because that is all they do, they don't work towards good, their countries are all bankrupt and people are living in poverty, which is why they hold on to the stories, they have a lot of time and they are sad creatures. You have to carefully analyze what is going on rather than falling for the lies and propaganda.
Marek, you're a pure, lame racist.
Geo T: Coming from you, it means a lot. Since you say the opposite of everything, I take it as a compliment. You are the one showing up at every thread related to Turkey and posting your lies and false propaganda, you and j. von hettlingen and a few others are the major racists on here. I typed the truth and you didn't enjoy it so you attack, try to come to terms with the reality instead of living in a fantasy world.
havent u learned that u cant give Wikipedia as a source of something ? anyone can write on wikipedia and dont need to be true, so when u give sources show on the articles or scientific data.
Wow when the time comes to Turkiye all become humanitarian.No1 talking about American Indians,africans.Millions slaughtered by colonist eu countries.Our goverment telling to Armenia that lets establish a commutee in order to investigate genoside.Because we have evidences in our archives that there was no genoside only banishment.Even if genoside is true tell me there was a monarchy in Turkiye.One sultan order and u have to obey otherwise any1 who against him will be headoff.According to so called kurdish problem.Have you ever been in Turkey?Do you know we are living together and we have same rights.Who killed kurds?Pkk killed thousands of people here.Goverment fighting with pkk terrorists.20 millions of kurds living in this country.Do you think any goverment dare to kill kurds anyways?With one word in tv was enought to send 500b dollars totally (people +goverment) to send money to somalia.Turkish people are good and kind.Keep ur racists words urself.
you just described israel and the palestinians.
FREE KURDISTAN !
Kurdistan, the de-facto state in northern Iraq, is free already. Feel free to move there when you want. If you want to expand it by attacking the neighbours, you will face the consequences. Carry your propaganda elsewhere.
as Mareek said, there is a free kurdistan in northen Iraq. why dont you go live there? I tell you why, because you dont get any of the benefits that you get in Turkey such as free and much more better health care, education, etc. far better living standards... so dont say "free kurdistan" no one will believe you.someone else also mentioned that Turkey had a kurdish president 20 years ago, thats right. there is no racism nor discrimination to any kurds in turkey. there are around 20 mil. Kurds in Turkey, and this pkk group is expressed by thousands.
what else can you expect from his co-religionist? When erdogan talks about people killed in Gaza he was mum on the 8 yr old kurdish children languishing in Turkish prisons just coz they speak kurdish.
Then let us first start with the innocent people who has been murdered by USA...
Absolutely right.
This is the blandest interview I've ever seen.
Lack of integrity is an understatement.
No replies were ever challenged. Even the most outrageous ones.
Fareed is a smart man, but as a interviewer he's in the muppet category. Out of his league.
Fareed, let others confront the dictators of this world with real questions and challenge their answers.
And please, if someone disagrees with you, don't take those comments out as you frequently do in you blog. Have a little decency.
Fareed, I have always had great respect for you and watch your program, Today you disappointed me and failed as a journalist. Never did I see you dumb found to the lies that came out of the mouth of an irresponsible populist leader. How come not one of those lies were not challenged by you? you know the truth, the history. Nucs? when was the last time Israel threatened to wipe out another country? Attack on the "peace flotilla? why didnt you ask him why he didnt refer to the Palmer investigation? Israeli's killied by missiles from Gaza? hundreds of thousands of Palestiians murdered? What about freedom for the Kurds, Do you know how many thousands have been murdered.What happened to you? What about his treats to Cyprus, the gas drilling? did he forget that Turkey invaded Cyprus in 74? I would suggest you interview Natanyahu si he can help you bring the truth to all those lies, this is the only way you can correct your failure in your honest reporting.
Harnik: Due to the nonsense you posted, your respect means nothing, and disappointment suits you well. Carry on your lies and propaganda elsewhere.
Guys and Gals! I have read all of these comments. Believe it or not I enjoyed the civilized discussion although at times it got heated. I think we should all grow up and stop all kinds of wars and killings. There is no end to this discussion everybody has their beliefs and opinions and they fanatic about them. No matter what happened in the past we should not let those happenings create more violence now. I pray every day for a world without wars and with no discrimination based on the ethnic or religious backgrounds. And I truly believe that day will come that we will all live together with no borders. We might not see it in our lifetime but it will come. So just respect each other and work harder for the peace...
This was actually one of the more balanced shows that Fareed has had. I am surprised that CNN allowed it, but pleasantly so. People need to get more of "the truth", or at least have objective coverage of world politics, so that they can decide for themselves rather than being manipulated by the political media's agenda.
Well, some words...will be converted to actions and some words will remain the same. We don't want wait and see, but we must act to see the real good change.
"hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were killed"? Since 1948, the number of *both* Israelis and Palestinians casualties is around 15,500. Why is he lying? This is repulsive, the man has become Ahmadinejad.
More than that. At least, Ahmedinajab keep claiming responsibility for what he said as outspoken person, that leads him into sanctions. But, Erdogan is hiding a lots of explosions in his mind and this is dangerous for the future between Turky and the west, until the hidden revealed.
Previously, Arabs and Turkey complained why the European Union took long to recognize Turky. Since then, internally, the relationships between Turky and West including with EU, becomes hate in secret, while it becomes very kind with the Arab World.
Basically, Turky hates Jewish, but it doesn't show inside-out. The hidden bomb is still in Turks Mind and it still looking for excuses to attack the Jewish State.
"Turks hate Jews"? Study your history to find out the truth. Who saved the Jews when they were all thrown out by Spain? Who took all of them in? The Ottomans who hosted them for years and even now there is a large Jewish community in Turkey, in particular, Istanbul. If you wish to make yourself look foolish by making ridicilous and wrong statements that is your business.
Turks never hated the Jews throughout the history, they don't hate them today either. Turkish government majorly dislikes the current Israeli government for good reasons, the current government also alienated the Turkish people big time by insulting the Turkish ambassador and killing Turkish citizens, which is a first for Turks in both cases since the foundation of the modern Turkish republic. Get your facts straight before posting, majority of the posts are biased anti-Turkish propaganda and have nothing at all to do with reality.
Why are you lying? Where is your proof that only 15,500 Palestinians and Israelis were killed since 1948? Do you know how many people were killed in the 1967 war or the Lebanese war? Do you know how many Palestinian children and civilians were killed since Gaza was liberated? Why did Israel bombed schools, electricity stations, factories, UN service stations and much more? Why doesn't Israel take prisoners why do always shoot to kill? No one likes killing machines, and that is what Israel have become. It has become an isolated island in the sea by its own actions. It could have done so many things to avoid all these things but it did not. Do you know why? Because Bibi and his government have let down their people and country very, very badly.
You launch daily rockets into Israel and you want to know why there is a military response. Ask your great warriors who launch the rockets.
People get killed in war. Stop shooting the rockets into Israel and you never have to worry. Your numbers are not truthful anyway.
Your own macho husbands use there kids and woman as human shields. That is how much respect they have for there families.
Any other nation in the world would have turned the Illegal squtters areas into scorched earth. Israel has shown great restraint. A nation with so many missles sent into would have had a right to go in to the Illegal squatter area and ram a sword through every living thing.
Correct. Hundreds of thousands have been killed. And nobody in the US has the decency to stop or even challenge it. It's a travesty that more people should become aware of and speak out against.
how could Fareed even allow him to get away with that?? I saw it on TV and almost fell off my chair.
And "thousands" died in Gaza in Cast Lead?
Good try Jew.
Are You Stupid Or Are You Stupid? So you tell me how many jews died. 10 jews to 1000 palestinians? Jews cry over 1 body dead but Palestinians Pray to the layed out men women and children.. Exactly what he said in the video.. JEWS ACT AS IF THEY'R THE VICTIMS.
Lets see how many of the Jewish Internet Defence Force will spam this comment box.
your hate is dripping from your comment and use of the name Baruch Goldstein, a rare murderer of civilians on the Israeli side. of course you you have no concerns about the scores of Palestinian terror murderes who killed little children like the Fogel family recently or the terrorists who attacked tourists on the southern Israeli border with Egypt nor do you comment on the fact that the Israeli people and government loudly and sincerely condemed Baruch Goldstein but the Palestininas name soccor fields and town squares after Palestinian murderers. There can be no constructive dialogue with someone with your mindset.
It is worth noting that Turkish-Israeli ties, which flourished in the 1990s, remained strong after the Justice and Development Party’s (AKP) electoral triumph in Turkey in November 2002. Additional commercial and defense agreements were signed. Hundreds of thousands of Israeli tourists flocked to Istanbul, Antalya and Bodrum. In a May 2005 visit to Israel, Erdogan met with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and paid his respects at the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial. President Shimon Peres delivered an address to the Turkish Parliament in 2007 (first time ever in Turkeys history) and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert visited Ankara the following year. Erdogan also received a medal from the Jewish ADL in 2004!
Good points!
Turkey's popular support for the Palestinians led to a bitter clash with Israel. As a result, Turkey has become the target of fierce attacks by the US Congress and media for no longer being responsive to Israeli interests. The Wall Street Journal, the North American voice of Israel's hard right Likud Party, has led fierce attacks against Turkey.
Claims by the right that Erdogan is turning Turkey into an Islamic dictatorship are false. The stable, democratic, productive Turkey he is building is a boon for all concerned. Istanbul used to be the Paris of the Muslim world. It's returning to that role again.
Exactly right. Turkey represents a model for the modern world, much more so than the US does.
Popular prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, backed by a majority of voters, has turned Turkey into the Mideast's role model for successful democracy, and unleashed the latent economic power of this nation of 75 million.
Turkey was one of the fastest growing countries in the world last year, with a growth rate of just over 9%. It has transformed itself from the sick man of Europe to its shining star, as countries like Greece, Portugal and Spain, because of their inability to depreciate currency, gasp under the Euro zone’s hangman noose. Indeed, in a conversation I had with a member of the Ministry of Economic Affairs, I discovered that Turkey was not going to go begging for European Union EU) membership but would accept it on its own terms if offered.
Erdogan is little confused here. Hundreds of thousands of Armenians and hundreds of thousands of Kurds
have been killed.Also not to forget that over 1 million Greeks have been expelled from their ancestral lands.
Don't forget thousands of Australian and NZ soldiers massacred at Gallipoli, there is even a monument in Turkey
to them and veterans still fly from NZ and Australia to pay them respects.
Erdogan wasnt born when the armeninians were killed nore did Turkey existed then.
Secondly not kurds but PKK terrorists (pkk is recognized by the US and EU as a terrorist organisation)
Third Turks were also expelled before and after ww1 from Greece and Balkans from their homes..
When the gates opened on the 19 August 1821, the Greeks rushed in and the whole population numbering around 3000 were killed with the exception of 160 who managed to escape.
Historian George Finlay noted that a Greek priest, named Phrantzes, was an eyewitness to the massacres. Based on the descriptions provided by Phrantzes, he wrote:
"Women, wounded with musketballs and sabre-cuts, rushed to the sea, seeking to escape, and were deliberately shot. Mothers robbed of their clothes, with infants in their arms plunged into the sea to conceal themselves from shame, and they were them made a mark for inhuman riflemen. Greeks sized infants from their mother's breasts and dashed them against rocks. Children, three and four years old, were hurled living into the sea and left to drown. When the massacre was ended, the dead bodies washed ashore, or piled on the beach, threatened to cause a pestilence...
This is just one of the massacres on the Turkish civilians by the Greeks...
Last the anzac soldiers came 10.000 km to invade the Ottoman empire at Gallopi, as a result many of them died, as a consequence of war. What would you do when one is invading your . You fight back.
In 1934 Atatürk wrote a tribute to the ANZACs killed at Gallipoli:
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.
This inscription appears on the Kemal Atatürk Memorial, ANZAC Parade, Canberra.
So you're telling us that Turkey DID NOT EXIST 100 years ago. I wonder where did you get your education, Piri Reis...
He wanted 2 say there was a monarchy.Ur nick is thinker but ur not thinking only trolling without reading.
very well said with the proofs. not like many other commentators;lying for propoganda...
Australian and NZ why they were trying to get gallipoli? What was the goal? Do you have any idea about that? I don't know how do you know, but i know you don't have any idea about that war. "Those heroes who shed their blood and lost their lives … you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours… You, the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land, they have become our sons as well."Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.and Mr.Irvis there is one way how to get true stories.Read-Think-Decision.
at the time Australia and NZ were colonies of Britain, and their soldiers were brought by British to fight their war.
HMMMM what was Austrilia and New zeland were doing there ??????????? so funny ! Go get your facts right
Turkey is the last country in the world to lecture Israel on morality. It used to be an Empire that fought its
neighbors mercilesly and conquered their lands. If I had a chance I would ask Erdogan this question: Palestine
has been under your control for something like 400 years, why your leaders in the Ottoman Empire made no
effort to give Palestinians back their land. Is it because there were no such nation or people called Palestinians?
Maybe it was because before 1964 Khartoum conference there were just called arabs like their brothers and
sisters elswhere in the Middle East.
Turkey is the first to lecture Israel, because it was one of the first to recognize Israel. Its the only muslim nation Israel had for very recently many relations with. Besides that the Turkish people have always been kind to the Jews..
On the midnight of August 2nd 1492, when Columbus embarked on what would become his most famous expedition to the New World, his fleet departed from the relatively unknown seaport of Palos because the shipping lanes of Cadiz and Seville were clogged with Sephardic Jews expelled from Spain by the Edict of Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand of Spain.
The Jews forced either to convert to Christianity or to "leave" the country under the menace "they dare not return... not so much as to take a step on them not trespass upon them in any manner whatsoever" left their land, their property, their belongings all that was theirs and familiar to them rather than abandon their beliefs, their traditions, their heritage. In the faraway Ottoman Empire, one ruler extended an immediate welcome to the persecuted Jews of Spain, the Sepharadim. He was the Sultan Bayazid II.
In 1992, the discovery year for all those connected to the American continents north, central and south world Jewry was concerned with commemorating not only the expulsion, but also seven centuries of the Jewish life in Spain, flourishing under Moslem rule, and the 500th anniversary of the official welcome extended by the Ottoman Empire in 1492.
This humanitarianism is consistent with the beneficence and goodwill traditionally displayed by the Turkish government and peoples towards those of different creeds, cultures and backgrounds. Indeed, Turkey serves as a model to be emulated by any nation that finds refugees from any of the four corners of the world standing at its doors.
In 1992, Turkish Jewry celebrated not only the anniversary of this gracious welcome, but also the remarkable spirit of tolerance and acceptance which has characterized the whole Jewish experience in Turkey. The events which were planned symposiums, conferences, concerts, exhibitions, films and books, restoration of ancient Synagogues etc. will commemorate the longevity and prosperity of the Jewish community. As a whole, the celebration aimed to demonstrate the richness and security of life Jews have found in the Ottoman Empire and the Turkish Republic over more than five centuries and show that indeed it is not impossible for people of different creeds to live together peacefully under one flag.
Piri... Israel recognized Turkey even before Turkey recognized Israel and THIS, apparently, gives Israel the right to to lecture the Turks.
Thinker23: Do you have a clue as to what you are talking about?! Flea recognized the elephant earlier? Turkey is Ottoman Empire, Ottoman Empire is Turkey. Repeat it in your little mind as much as necessary to properly analyze Turkey and the Turks. Turkey is not a lame small insignificant state that declared independence in the 1900s, it was just a transition.
Thank you for the nice post and historical tidbit.
the ottoman empire belonged to all muslims not only Turks. The Ottomans did not care about ethnic bacgrounds, the only thing that mattered was religion.
In your mind perhaps it did. In reality, Ottoman Empire entirely belonged to Turks. Turks ruled a bunch of European, Middle Eastern, and northern African nations under the empire for half a millenium. They provided them freedom to practice their own religion, use their own language, and all. But the empire did not belong to Muslims or Christians, it belonged to Turks. Good try at yet another attempt to twist facts and show things as they aren't.
Actually the Ottoman Empire was mostly ruled by Greeks and Jews. That is why the Neo-Turk revolution had the slogan 'Turkey to the Turks' as its rallying cry (notwithstanding the fact that Ataturk was also a Jew).
Turkey is actually the first country to lecture Israel. It doesn't become last because you decided to say so. Every empire was merciless in the past, get to your senses. In Turkey's case, everyone brings the past when every nation was alike, you need to talk about today when Israel is the merciless country. Post your biased nonsense elsewhere.
Israel merciless? Good Islamic propaganda. If you are a crazed muslim leader and you work yourself and your citizens in to a firey crazed desire for war and you attack yes Israel (who has choosen to remain silent while this little Hitler wannabe has ranted and raved against Israel including now threats of war) Yes I would guess the response would be merciless.
I have seen the Arab spring. The great merciful leaders of Islamic countries. While the natives try to over throw the goverment, the goverment is slaughtering the natives. Funny thing I thought this was about freedom, Democracy. All We see is the call for more extreme ISLAM.
Then there is Israel. All the lies about Israel coming from Islam. Israel had a few weeks ago a half a million people protesting in the streets. What did we see? We saw peaceful protest, no one was harmed, no one was gunned down by goverment. That is democracy.
Was is Democracys corner stones. All human beings are equal, all have rights, the seperation between church and state. Erda you are just another Jew hating drama queen.
zionist: It's not an Islamist propaganda or anything. You Jews try to show everything as Christians vs. Muslims to make it serve to your interests and take sympathy. I'm not even religious, looking at the whole thing from a humanitarian viewpoint, massacring innocent civilians is unacceptable regardless of their religion.
Early in the 14th century, when the Ottomans had established their capital at Edirne, Jews from Europe, including Karaites, migrated there. (1) Similarly, Jews expelled from Hungary in 1376, from France by Charles VI in September 1394, and from Sicily early in the 15th century found refuge in the Ottoman Empire. In the 1420s, Jews from Salonika then under Venetian control fled to Edirne. (2)
Ottoman rule was much kinder than Byzantine rule had been. In fact, from the early 15th century on, the Ottomans actively encouraged Jewish immigration. A letter sent by Rabbi Yitzhak Sarfati (from Edirne) to Jewish communities in Europe in the first part of the century "invited his co-religionists to lease the torments they were enduring in Christendom and to seek safety and prosperity in Turkey". (3)
When Mehmet II "the Conqueror" took Constantinople in 1453, he encountered an oppressed Romaniot (Byzantine) Jewish community which welcomed him with enthusiasm. Sultan Mehmet II issued a proclamation to all Jews "... to ascend the site of the Imperial Throne, to dwell in the best of the land, each beneath his Dine and his fig tree, with silver and with gold, with wealth and with cattle...". (4)
In 1470, Jews expelled from Bavaria by Ludwig X found refuge in the Ottoman Empire. (5)
Yeah so? I thought Turkish history starts in 1923. This point is forcefully underlined by all those Turks who have made a sport out of denying the Armenian Genocide...saying they have nothing to do with Ottoman History. Really, now you want a browny point for the so-called "friendly gesture" of the Ottomans towards the Jews? which incidentally had nothing to do with "caring" and everything to do with acquiring the wealth that all those Jews were bringing into the Empire.
Make up your mind. you can't have your cake and eat it too.
The last time I checked, Australia and NZ were not anywhere close to the boundaries of the Ottoman Empire around 1915. Tell me what their soldiers were doing at Gallipoli.
Austrailia and New Zealand were a part of the British Empire. They were part of the landing force that tried to invade turkey but failed. It should be in your history books unless it was removed from school books in Texas.
Another softball Muslim to Muslim interview by Fareed Zakaria. When will you start asking the tough questions of Erdogan?
what about the fact turkey killed millions armenian?
who has no mercy?
there is no historical evidence for genocide. who said there is a genocide? if someone says your mother is not your mother will you believe? or you want to see proof?
There weren't even more than half a million Armenians in Turkey back at the time, and majority of them fled the country or was forced outside its borders by Turks after they sided with enemy and backstabbed Turks. The actual number of their casualty is in tens of thousands, and due to the war they started and lost, not a genocide or anything. It's first been exaggerated to hundreds of thousands and then to millions, just like all other parts of the bogus genocide story. If that was the case, there wouldn't be any Armenians anywhere today. You all get carried away with your lies and propaganda, you are mostly brainwashed and hatred-filled Armenians but the sad thing is there are some third parties here posting according to what they hear although they are actually clueless about what took place, of course again because they are biased against Turks.
Gee. How many Turks have been killed by the Kurdish PKK? How many Kurds have been killed by the Turks? 10, 20, 100, 1000? I think there needs to be an accounting. For that matter, how about Turkey acknowledging the Armenian Genocide and the murder of thousands of Pontic Greeks? How about Hamas using civilians as human shields in order to create civilian casualties for propaganda purposes? The solution is simple: stop attacking Israel and Israel will not have to respond? For that matter, how many civilians have been killed in all war? Erdogan's comments merely serves to reinforce his standing within the Arab world as the enemy of Israel. Such hypocrisy.
Stop heating and serving the same nonsense about what you think took place over a century ago according to what you heard from Greeks and Armenians (actually you're most likely one or the other but anyways). Kurdish terrorist group PKK killed tens of thousands of people, their casualty is in thousands, Turks do not kill civilians in the process like Israel does and that is what Erdogan talks about. It is mostly due to the part that Kurdish PKK terrorists are on a mountainous area far from any civilian area. But if it comes to the fact that any civilians will die with the terrorists, Turks back out and let the terrorists get away to avoid killing the civilians, as in the western world. The difference simply lies there, Israel kills them all and then comes up with excuses such as "they shouldn't be there" or "they used the children as shields". Deal is, no matter why and how they ended up there, you don't kill children. Period. No other country would do that but Israel, except perhaps some in Africa.
To Erdogan. It is the intent which is critical not the result.For instance ,the INTENT of Hamas by firing rockets amongst civilian population of Israel,is to harm and panic maim or kill them.The (fortunate ) fact that the panic has been real but damage minimal,was not the Hamas intent.Conversely,when Israel attempted to stop the rockets by entering Gaza,Hamas hid themselves and their weapons amongst the civilians,mosques,hospitals houses ambulances etc.So cynically they knew it would be a win win situation propaganda-wise.More civilians killed= more anti Israel publicity.So the INTENT of Israel was to eliminate Hamas fighters intent on its destruction.The casualties are the fault of Hamas ,however regretful,because of how they chose to conduct themselves by hiding within women and children.
texan, it figures you are from texas. New Zealand and Australia are part of the British Commonwealth. They provided troops to Britain during WW1. Most of the troops landed at Gallipoli were Australians and New Zealanders. The battle was a bloodbath and an overall disaster for the British. Rather than withdraw, the British kept sending in more Commonwealth troops. The ANZAC soldiers paid dearly for their British Commanders' pride.
It's not just evolution and Thomas Jefferson that's left out of the curriculum of texas schools. But I guess you don't need to know history for a part time, minimum wage job at wal-mart or delivering pizzas. Don't feel too bad, Rick Perry probably doesn't know that Australia and New Zealand aren't anywhere near Turkey.
So how many Israeli deaths will satisfy Erdogan? Just because the rockets from Gaza are inaccurate and results in few deaths does not mean it can be tolerated. What would Erdogan do if inaccurate rockets were shot from Syria on Turkey ?
Where did he get the information that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were killed by the Israelis? Highly inflated numbers that have no basis of fact.
Erdogan is heart broken to watch with his family the deaths of an Arab family on the Gaza beach. What about the thousands of Kurds being murdered by the the Turkish military right now? What about the genocide of the Armenians by the Turks?.
Why do you let him get away with lies unchallenged?
He tells the truth, search and read the news. Did you miss the phosphoric bombs Israel threw over Palestinian cities killing scores of civilians? You are coming up with the same nonsense from over a century ago against Turks because you don't have anything recent, you have to resort to the tales written by imaginative Armenians. The Armenian genocide is as bogus as a three-dollar bill, repeating the lies over and over again will not make it real. Turkish military is not murdering any Kurds right now or anything, otherwise everybody would have heard it on the news. Turks attack the PKK Kurdish terrorist bases in northern Iraq and kills a small number of them because they hide in caves. They are in a mountainous area far from any civilian village so no civilians die as a result. Good try though, you may have fooled a few clueless third parties with your lies and false propaganda.
As usually, Erdogan is being a hypocrite. What Israeli vs. Palestinian victims calculations? How many Turks were killed by Kurds and vice versa. A few Turks are killed and Erdogan sends warplanes to bomb a sovereign country – Iraq. Well, that's how it works when you fight terrorism. Turkey killed over 30,000 Kurds – mostly civilians – during what – 15-20 years? Israel can't even come close to this efficiency.
Turkey is the last country that should open its mouth on the subject.
there is a difference cant you see? people went to gaza for help they are not terrorist! They didnt have any weapons! Israel killed them!
that's BS. The organization behind it is a known terrorist organization!
You are the last octopus that should open his mouth on any subject. Turkey bombs the mountainous area in northern Iraq where the PKK Kurdish terrorists' camps are, which are far from any civilian villages, and as a result only terrorists die with no civilian casualties. Turkey actually kills a very small number of terrorists too due to them being aware of the attack in advance and hiding in caves underground. Difference is, Israel bombs houses in residential neighbourhoods, throws phosphoric bombs over cities, killing scores of innocent civilians along with a few terrorists they target. Not comparable at all, yet you try to twist it all and use it to your benefit. Enough with your lies and false propaganda.
Someone should explain to Erdogan that wars are NOT about causing equal damage to the enemy but about ENDING them by forcing the enemy to surrender and ask for peace. As long as the Palestinians are willing the war to continue it means that the number od dead Palestinians is too low and should be increased.
Why can't Israel stop settlements I don't understand. Can somebody explain to me how can they expect Palestinian leaders convince their people that there will be peace if Israel keep taking chunk of their land daily basis. Can Israelis put themselves in Palestinians shoes ever? And all for what pete's sake. A piece of barren ##! land some important religious figure took a @@#. I think only solution is Palestinians get whatever they are given and start over. Forget about it all. Israel won't stop. At least you can have the moral ground in the future.
Let me ask you the following question, beyaz: If tommorow Israel will REMOVE all settlements, ALL military bases, ALL checkposts and will withdraw to the cease fire lines of 1949... WILL THERE BE PEACE? If your answer is NO then settlements are IRRELEVANT to the desire of Palestinians to live in peace... Here is a hint to make it easier for you to answer this question: Israel REMOVED all settlements, military bases and checkposts and totally withdrew from Gaza.
Settlements has nothing to do with Israel's security. Some fanatic wild eyed religious guys are holding world hostage. If you are saying you tried all and nothing worked than say it . Than we all know who wants peace and who don't. Israel will have to defend herself against fanatics always, that is the nature of middle east but she can do it (showing that she wants peace, targeting only those attacked her, differentiating regular people and terrorists, etc) without burning the whole world down.
Beyaz... I've asked a simple straighforward question: If tommorow Israel will REMOVE all settlements, ALL military bases, ALL checkposts and will withdraw to the cease fire lines of 1949... WILL THERE BE PEACE?
Can you produce a simple YES or NO answer? If you can not then we'll know who does and who does not believe in his own words... and if you demand Israel to try EVERYTHING why don't you ask the Arabs in general and he Palestinians in particular to try SOMETHING?
Biggest irony ever: Germany's punishment for genocide is actually financially supporting another genocide. The world is absurd!
Which genocide is Germany supporting?
Erdogan is a islamo-fundamentalist in a suite. A guy who wants to destroy secular Turkey, take away the rights of women and impose Sharia law.
So Erdogan we don't trust you!
Baruch Goldstein: the hero of the settlers in the West Bank.. I know it because I talked to them
If you knew a little about Turkey, if you knew the Turkish reality, you would know that it is not at all possible. If they had such an agenda, they would be acting very differently now, obviously you haven't a clue about the politics and dynamics within Turkey. Erdogan was in Egypt this month telling the new government that secularism is the only way to go. He is religious himself but he is way too smart to attempt to change the nation, he knows that Turkey owes its huge success to being secular and separating religion from government, he knows that the entire middle east is a mess because of the interference of religion in government, taking Turkey down would not benefit either Turkey or him and his party. Your post is extremely unrealistic, a lot of people come up with the same nonsense though so I can't blame you, you probably heard it elsewhere and thought it might be the case.
10 billions of Palestinians were killed in Gaza, and million Turks on the Marmara.
I think that this guy lost his mind.
Saying hitler didn't commit a genocide would be more than wrong, saying Israel isn't committing it now is equally wrong.
If they want peace, they should behave in a way that clearly tells everyone they do. Why do you think they're being more and more isolated? Do you think the rest of the world is stupid and uneducated or anti semitic?
How about groups like "European Jews for justice" or "Soldiers against silence"? Do you think they aren't jewish enough?
Fareed Zakaria is a wannabe white man, who is being used by CNN as a Muslim reporter to pretend neutrality.
CNN has fired a reporter(Octavia Naser) for speaking against Israel – HYPOCRITES.
Jews are committing a murderous genocide right in front of our eyes and hypocrites from western countries are talking about an imagimary Armenian genocide that happened a century ago. They have repaid in kind to their paymasters by destryong the economy of USA – shalom my brothers. You made your ancestors proud – after all this is what our tribe has been doing. Let us use holocaust as a pretext to contine our crimes!!
you are a sick, small brained person.. look for the satan inside yourself, should not be difficult to find..or look in the mirror.
you are full of hatred.. i pity you..
The President of Turkey believes that Israeli casulties are too low. His response to attacks causing fewer casulties can be seen all over Kurdestan
We attacked terrorist camps.Research a liitle and post ur sh1t here.
Yes sure. You Turks are a nation of murders who killed 1.5 million Armenians and thousands of Curds and people of Cypress. Your PM Erdogan is totally crazy if he says that Israel killed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. In all of the Arab-Jewish conflict since 1881 died about 20,000 Jews and 60,000 Arabs. So this is your PM and that how people see you: Hateful, uneducated and arrogant.
Israel should pay close attention to the Armenian Genocide Resolution has been introduced to the U.S. Congress; it could easily apply: "...urges Turkish (Israeli) government to end restrictions on religious gatherings and return stolen church (mosque) property... And we’re determined until Turkey (Israel) itself recognizes the genocide and restores property from whom it was taken, to keep these efforts up."
you are treating worse your kurdish minoruty, than israel is treating the palestinians, and for more time..you killed many more people..
its time the world started to take notice...and start pressuring for turkey to give freedom to the kurds...and break the blockade you are putting on them...
It's time to thin out the Sunni tribe or sect whatever you call them.They are sounding more like the NAZIS.
i think we should make new kind of DNA , we should call it 21century empathy we should inject it who does not have enough
,when we see something wrong in the world , kids are suffering , women are suffering, humanity are suffering,morality is going down at the same time with your enemy's humanity going down too..
instead of calling to politician we should call nurse for shot .. empathy shot
Many these comments read like George Orwell's 1984 "Ministry of Truth –" WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH" - an attempt to rewrite history and change the facts to justify Israel's political agenda.
Erdogan's right; Israel hasn't shown a lot mercy to the Palestinians.
theend: yep, 2012 is coming...and hopefully it's "the end of Ignorance"...but to get there, perhaps we need to go down the terrible path that we have been for many years now. I wonder if most of the people posting knee-jerk reactive comments on this forum, or elsewhere, really believe what they're saying...or are they knowingly just fighting for their "cause", whichever side their bias falls towards.
I'm surprised there are not more people commenting here. Something important and very few views ,par for the course.A better foreign policy needs to be enacted, we need to watch a little closer these Muslim countries especially the ones with a Sunni majority.Pakistan, Afghanistan,Turkey, Afghan. Taliban, with Iraq that the majority was oppressed, (the Shi'a) .Turkey denied us air space to bomb whoever.It may be time to cut them loose and put them on notice. Stay away and out of Israeli Affairs.
Israel has NOT killed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. This is pure propaganda. While he wants proof of Israeli deaths from Palestinian rocket attacks, he puts forth propaganda numbers that have nothing to do with the truth and he does not offer any independent substantiation of his numbers. Typical Muslim one-sided propaganda against Israel that the Arab and Muslim masses eat up!
Stu I've been doing some research on the religions around the planet and made some observations on Islam and that is the majority are Sunni. I'm not even going to try to understand it but what I read it just seems to me there will never be peace between the Sunni or the Jews, or for any other religion. I think the Sunni really want to be the only and last Religion standing.
Unfortunately the Koran and the Hadith have some very anti-Jewish verses in it that the Muslim extremist use as their basis for the hatred of the Jewish people.
The Koran, Sura 5, verse 85, describes the inevitable enmity between Moslems and non-Moslems: "Strongest among men in enmity to the Believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans." Sura 9, verse 5, adds: "Then fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them. And seize them, beleaguer them and lie in wait for them, in every strategem [of war]." Then nations, however mighty, the Koran insists, must be fought "until they embrace Islam."
The hadith (recordings of deeds and sayings attributed to Muhammad) use both the terms Banu Israil and Yahud in relation to Jews, the latter term becoming ever more frequent and appearing mostly in negative context.
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).Sahih Muslim, 41:6985, see also Sahih Muslim, 41:6981, Sahih Muslim, 41:6982, Sahih Muslim, 41:6983, Sahih Muslim, 41:6984, Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:56:791,(Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:177)
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The hadith has been quoted countless times, and it has become a part of the charter of Hamas.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism#cite_note-Schweitzer266-7
Jews lived in relative peace with the Muslims for nearly 1500 years in the Middle East; they fought beside Muslims at the Siege of Jerusalem in 1099, and held positions of influence and power under the Ottoman Empire - Minister of Finance, Governor, etc. In Moorish Spain, Jews flourished under the Caliphate of Córdoba. It was the European Christians that slaughtered Jews, not the Muslims. Where is your mercy?
The Turkish pimp has been ranting and raving about Israel for over a year. He has rattling his saber and might push himself into such a corner that he will start a war.
To Israels credit for the most part they have remained silent. This should not be seen as a sign of weakness but of Strength.
A little man has raging fits against Israel. We have seen it before.
I pray to God that he will stop I would hate to see Innocent turkish citizens killed by a poor choice there Islamic ruler made.
Farreed why did you not ask this hypocrit "why did he stop the ship to Syria carrying weapons .?he is another puppet of Iran
Erdogan avoided mention that the U.N. found Israel's blockade of Gaza to be legal. Therefore it is right for Israel to defend against unchecked imports that may contain weapons, including rockets that are used to attack Israel. Erdogan also created a straw man argument by asking why Israel needed any weapons other than those required to defend against Palestinians, neglecting that Iran has promised to destroy Israel and is building by U.N. intelligence estimates nuclear weaponry capability, not just for peaceful use and that Iran has armed Hezbollah and Hamas to the teeth with missiles. These are facts that Erdogan ignored and Zakaria did not challenge him on. The truth is that Erdogan wants Turkey to be a regional power broker and is positioning itself to be a counter-weight to Iran or to succeed Iran as a pre-eminent regional power. We don't know if that will be a good thing or not. But it will be convenient for him to distance himself from Israel, which he appears to be doing for these reasons, and to sweep his own problems with the Kurds under the rug.
Turkish Prime Minister needs to visit Israel & see that every home or few homes has or shares a cement bunker. When the alarm sounds, the families run to the bunkers. That is the only reason there are less "killed" Jews. If you "follow" the dollars" it leads to CEMENT!
Ridiculous lie. Palestinians aren't even capable of carrying out such attacks, all they do it throw some shells by their border which almost always fall on empty roads and such. A few border villages are on alarm, nobody dies in those either. Israel carries out major attacks, bombs houses, throws phosphoric bombs on top of cities. Palestinians don't have those you mentioned so scores of innocent civilians die, sometimes with a few terrorists.. often times terrorists aren't there so just civilians die. Get real, stop lying.
You are either naive or a liar, or both.
Rockets, accurate or not accurate DO KILL. Stones also kill, as evidenced by a recent murder of a Jewish man and his son whose car was stoned resulting in their deaths.
If your house in whatever comforable neigh borhood you live in was constantly rocketed, your children had to run for their lives while going to school, their schoolbus was shot at, your children would have to drop to the floor for their lives while in school, you'd not talk the way you did. Israelis are no longer in Gaza, but the attacks haven't stopped.
Why do you guve so much importance and attention to the Turkish ahemedinejad 2?? Erdogan is a fachist leader . without any objectivity talking about Israel. he is full of hatred...you can see it from his face..
He has imprisoned more than 4000 people , all journalists, liberals and people just making their opinions known.. No trial, just put in prison without any justification..
Is this the leader you are projecting as the new leader of the middle east?? he is a dictator, who just happened to lead a good economic expansion.. That does not make him a good leader.. TO the contrary, this person is cruel, and he sent the ship to gaza knowing what lould happen beforehand.. He is cruelly calculating, and should be judged instead for sending these boat people to their deaths..
So pls do not refer to him as the new role model. he is very far from that..
a pity..
I am generally a big fan of your work Fareed, but you let Erdogan go off for a ten minute diatribe filled with inaccuracies, and did not challenge him at all. If you were concerned about antagonizing this hot head then you should have saved that question for the end of the interview.
Poor showing on this one.
totally agree with you...
Awww poor Jew, he didn't serve to your interests despite all the pressure, how sad. It actually shows that this guy has integrity for a change, he doesn't cave in to threats and his pen is not sold to Israel. It's not bad, it's good. For Americans that is, not Jews. You keep complaining.. sounds good to ears of the rest of the world.
Sorry to disappoint you, Dianne, but Mr. ErDOGan has already alienated all of his neighbors and even managed to get himself in trouble with both European Union and the United States.
This bully has already managed to anger the European Union. It will be very interesting to see what this clown would have to say when Cyprus would shortly take the rotating leadership positin in European Union.
I am speechless, Mr. Zakaria. I look forward to reading your articles and watching your show every Sunday. And I still will. But how could you allow Erdogan to get away with accusing Israel of killing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. it's a bald-faced lie. The Palestinians don't even make such claims, and human rights groups put the death toll in the conflict, both sides combined, at around 15,000 SINCE 1948. If I want to watch "journalism" without follow-up questions and challenge, I'd start a movement to bring back Larry King.
Your usual tactics of shushing people by threatening them and such. Who threw the phosphoric bombs on top of Palestinian cities? Carry your propaganda elsewhere.
Saber rattling at its best.
Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians killed is a lie plain and simple. Unprecedented for a leader of state to lie in this way.
Marhaba ! perhaps one of your best interview ever ,your questions were answered by a fresh face in the bloody world of politics.Compare this man with some other cannibals who live in the neighborhood such as Ahmadi Nejad and Jr. Assad. I am concern about his friendly policy with Iran but his anger at Israel is the key for his popularity in the region ,after all he is a devoted Muslim,the old wound never heals.Next time when you see Mr. Erdogan please whisper in his ear " stop killing the Kurdish" make sure he can hear you. Thank you Sir.
Would be lovely to see Fareed ask Erdogan about his claims that Muslims would never engage in genocide (as when Erdogan was defending the known butcher of hundreds of thousands of black Africans in Sudan, Sudanese president.).
Fareed, I am a big fan of GPS, but the Erdogan interview was disappointing. It is also emblematic of the problems with the vast majority of TV journalism and interview quality.
The question of whether Turkish-Israeli relations are reparable is, I think, a poor choice in a relatively short interview. It is too general and the obvious short answer is" yes of course" since that has been stated numerous times by Turkey. In fact, the conditions for such a change have been stated specifically by the Turkish government.
The benefit of interviewing the head of a government, in my opinion, is to ask questions that address conflicts with the facts in a government's stance or the interviewer's professional opinion of the policy's implications and effects on objects of the policy or policies (these insights and the questions they generate are the foundation of a skilled interviewer).
In this instance, the questions addressing the Turkish/Israeli relations in the context of the Gaza Flotilla Raid should have included several facts:
1.The UN officially justified the blockade of Gaza and justified the raid on the Turkish ship.
2. Establish the true nature of the blockade including the fact that Israel allows humanitarian aid to enter Gaza. It just reserves the right to inspect the cargo.
3. Remind PM that Hamas, which rules Gaza, officially declares as its goal the elimination and destruction of the state of Israel.
4. Include the fact that Turkey has suppressed the Kurdish nation and contrast that treatment with the Israeli relationship with the Palestinians. Also remind PM that Turkey occupied Palestine and Israel for many years and never offered either nation a state.
5. And re-state the true facts of the Palestinian plight. Let's remember that the Palestinians were granted a state in 1947 by the UN, rejected it and initiated (at least 3 ) official wars of destruction. And never sought an independent state West of the Jordan River while Jordan, Britain or the Ottomans ruled the territory.
The fact is, despite the generality and weakness of your initial question, Erdogan's response created a huge opening to address these issues in follow-up questions. He asserted facts and interpretations that are in conflict with reality and demanded that any objective interviewer highlight the inconsistencies. That is the whole point of an "interview." To have an environment where one can challenge and force the subject to address inconsistencies or issues that are not normally dealt with in the official public stance. You allowed him a platform to broadcast propaganda and essentially lies in the guise of respectability. When conducting an interview, the interviewer's failure to address inconsistencies essentially implies the truth of the statements.
Let's use the limited time to probe and highlight and demand resolution of the interviewees' lack of logical consistency and the unique implications of their actions and policies etc. GPS should be challenging the standard narrative on all issues. Journalism today is filled with herd mentality and shallow questions and insights. Unfortunately, this interview is part of that.
Very well put. In light of your comments, I think this interview would make a very good case study for journalism students. And I do hope you get a direct response from Mr. Zakaria. In fact, I think he owes all of us in his audience an explanation of why he normally extraordinary interviewing skills had left the building.
Greg, bravo, I sincerely hope that Fareed will address these comments. This interview was the worst he has ever made, I wouldn't be surprised if Erdogan didn't threaten to walk out if he challenged him, that's his style, he did that in Davos with Shimon Perez
Fareed, you should have asked the Turkish prime minister Recep Erdogan about the Armenian Genocide the way Jack Spenecer mentions above, and Attila Turkoglou stop the Turkish lowlife lies and everybody knows that the Armenian Genocide is a historical fact and if Turkey does not recognize this fact we Armenians will take our revenge from them even if it is after thousand years. The is a famous saying, that a Kurd took his revenge after forty years and he said I hurried, could have waited longer, we Armenians will take our revenge after forty centuries and we will say we hurried, we could have waited longer. Anyway, if there is a barbaric state in the Middle East it is Turkey with the way they are treating the Armenian minority there and also other Christian minorities and also the Turkish brutality against the Kurds. Certainly the Kurds have the right to conduct military struggle against Turkey and target and destroy the Turkish army units. If Egyptians are welcoming Erdogan as a hero that shows how backwards and stupid Egyptians really are that they are considering their enemy a hero. I was disgusted just seeing Recep Erdogans lying face on your program, and you did not ask the right questions, specially about the Armenian Genocide and the return of the Armenian occupied territories to their rightful owners, the Armenians.
The Erdrogan interview was malpractice journalism. Fareed you asked questions and didn't follow up or challenge. It felt like state run media. A platform for Erdogan not an interview. You allowed Erdogan to talk about the Israeli blockade of Turkey, but didn't challenge him pointing out that the UN had determined that the blockade was lawful. You didn't ask why he didn't find another approach to delivering the supplies other than provocatively violating the blockade. You let him quote statistics about Palestinian deaths during that were wildly factually wrong, again without question. You let him condemn Israeli defense activity, but you didn't mention parallels to Turkey's defense activity against Kurdish separatists. And while Erdogan acted like a moral oracle, where was your question about the illegal occupation of Cyprus by Turkey. I'm dumbfounded Fareed. I'm a fan of your program, but this was pitiful.
To the contrary, I really enjoyed the interview. For once, a politician can say his mind uninterrrupted. It's true every nation has their weakness including the U.S. But if you start telling every nation to clean their domestic problems, this Israel-Palestinian issue will never resolve.
Fareed, for once I was extremely disappointed at your interviewing approach. How could not challenge the leader of Turkey over his sly allegations about Israel's alleged "genocide", when Turkey continue to oppress and kill its Kurdiush dissidents, and to occupy Cyprus, and how could you allow him to set out his anti-Israel propaganda without searching questioning? This man seems like a slick version of the Iranian leader, and I was astonished that you didn't challenge him more. Please, Fareed, for the sake of free speech, be tougher with interviewees like this.
Fareed – I watched aghast at this interview. Even your body langauge seemed deferential to this Turkish leader, whose comments were – to me – aggressive and thuggish over Israel. Why didn't you query his diatribes – Israeli genocide???? What about the Kurds, the Cypriots, the "disappeared" in Turkey's prisons? Watching that interview was a weird experience, as if reality and objectivity fled the studio. This was not the Fareed we know and like.
I just wanted to ask Mr. Erdogan: How much Turkey has shwon mercy toward Kurdish people as their own citizen? Kurdsih children are not the same as Palestinian children! Why Mr. Erdogan taking about human rights and democracy everywhere except in his own country.
I think Mr. Erdogan is not realistic, he is trying to cover their govenremnet injustice acts toward all other ethnicites in Turkey such as Kurds, Armans, Arabs, and etc. by talking about palsetine. Palestanian and Arbas should remeber that the Turkey has been the Israel's best military ally in the region. The Turkey is using Israelis weapon killing Kurdish people not just in his own country but also in Kurdistan Region of Iraq. It was recently when Turkey threatened Syria backed by the Israel's weapon!
I think Mr. Erdogan should stop his hypocracy in th region and start democratic reforms in his own country then talk about other issues in the region. Turkey will not be immune from what happenning in the region in social and political reforms!
Mr. Fareed you should have asked the Turkish prime minister about the Kurdish issue in Turkey and other human rights issues like press freedom.
I was disgusted by Fareed Zakaria's interview with Erdogan. What interview? He just let him spread complete lies and more lies about Israel without challenging him in any way. WEhat hundred thousand Palestinian deaths is he talking about? Never happened? Fareed, why did you not challenge him on these lies? Nor did you point out the hypocrisy of his criticisms of Israel while he persecutes and bombs the Kurds and gives Syria plenty of time to butcher thousands of people before gently suggesting Assad step down. If Palestinian Arabs deserve a state, why not the Kurds? Why not Cyprus? Someone some day needs to call a spade a spade and state outright when someone is clearly antisemitic and spread outright libel about the Jewish nation. Disgusting!! You know better and you should not let someone use your show as a platform to spread propaganda and lies that will foster more hatred and bigotry in this world. Erdogan's type of antisemitism if going to lead to horrible consequences.
Unbelievable non probing interview. Lost all respect for zakaria. Did not press on Erdogan's bogus numbers on killed Palestinians, the provocation of the flotilla and the UN report about israel's right to defend it's boarders, moral equivalence or irans nukes and israel's nukes. Shouldn't sanction Iran unless they actually have a nuclear warhead in plain site. Erodgan is the next Ahmadinejad or Chavez. A real whack job, but much more dangerous. Lie in bed with Armenian genocide denier and you will be in trouble. NATO is nuts to share intelligence with Turkey. The EU would be crazy to let them in.
I was surprise that you did not mention that ISREAL was invaded 3 times. I lost all respect for you.
Im wondering if a precondition of the interview was to allow the Erdigan free reign to use this influential program as his personal soap box. Fareed is a bright individual and was evidently complicit with this agenda. Fareed could have steered the interview on a more factual/rational basis as enumerated in the comment above. Fareed, Why?
I agree w.ith the PM's view on the nuclear issue. Why had no western leader ever talked about Israel's massive nuclear stockpile . European leaders used to be honest brokers on the Palestinian issue but just like the US they have now outsource their middle east policy to Israel and AIPAC. What a shame
I was shocked and disappointed by Mr. Zakaria's silence when Turkey's PM Erdogen made an outrageous charge that Israel killed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. When and where were these events supposed to have occurred? Mr. Erdogen was obviously disappointed that many more Israeli's weren't killed by attacks from the Infatads and Hamas.
Mr. Erdogen didn't hesitate to bomb the Kurds when they attacked Turkish soldiers several months ago. Only for same defense of their people can't be allowed by Israelis. Israelis are only good for cannonfodder.
I lost a lot of respect for Mr. Zakaria with this interview.
Of course the Turks massacred the Armenians, of course Erdogan was a friend and an ally of Israel – because that is politics. Now, Erdogan sees an opportunity to make Turkey "great" again, by being the westernized face of islamic fascism. So, Israel and the jews are a very small sacrifice – throw them into the fire (it was done before), request obscene victim counts (how many were killed on each side) rather than evaluating the political and socioeconomic reasons for the conflict and trying to mitigate it. What would be the result of asking for the macabre statistics that Erdogan demanded on your show, Mr Zakariah? If there are fewer Israeli killed, then the Palestinians should be given killing quota to balance out the statistics? How can you sit there with a smiling face and allow a person to calmly demand killing statistics? How many missiles would Erdogan tolerate to have sent into his territory, regardless of their efficacy, before he would take his well equipped army to revenge such an act?
How can you let him say those horrible things when you know what Turkey has been, and continues to do in Cyprus? If we tolerate murderers and representatives of murderers on our shows, and don't make them face the truth, are we not becoming their accomplices? Is your popularity rating worth cowtowing to such fascist talk disguised as diplomacy? For shame, Mr Zakariah – we will never forget.
Fareed – I have watched and read you for quite some time and enjoyed your insights. Today, I turned off your show midway through your interview with the Turkish PM. Your presence at this "interview" was unnecessary, as you said and added nothing; the PM's presence unnecessary because everyone already knows his views on Israel. We watch your show, not to see what important people you have wrangled for this week's show and to hear them pontificate, but to hear you challenge or at least question their views. If your purpose today was to imply, through your silence, that you agreed with his views, I am not only disappointed in you as a journalist, I am disgusted by your ignorance.
Need to understand the difference between an interview and debate. The job of a balanced interviewer is to bring out thoughts, approach and point of view of the person being interviewed and not to jump into argument the way many journalists start doing thus spoiling the interview. Instead of getting to hear the guy, they end up painting the interview with their beliefs and theories. Rafiq was interviewing the person and as a result of his excellent handling, Turkish PM came out with many points (right or wrong) for audience to debate and discuss. The rebuttal to Mr. Erdogan should come either from Mt. Netanyahu, his team or another statesman if they feel Turkish PM was misrepresenting the facts.
usually big fan, was extremely disappointed at the cheesy questions posed to the Turkish PM; questions that should have been asked:
1. What would Turkey would have done if the Kurds were to lob tens of thousands of rockets into turkish civilian populations, fire anti-tank rockets towards schools buses, and butcher babies in their cradles?!
2. Is the PM aware that there were armed terrorsits on the flotilla? how would Turkey would have handled a similar flotilla bringing "aid" and fighters to the Kurdish people?!
The flotilla was an international humanitarian mission carrying only humanitarian aid, there were no weapons found on it except for the captain's gun. There were people from 33 nations on the ships. Get real, you are getting carried away with your lies, nothing you post has anything to do with reality, you twist it all, exaggerate facts, and try to turn the table around. You are destined to fail at your attempts.
humanitarian mission my foot. they could have sent it through regular channels, even the UN said Israel has the right to search ships destined to gaza which lobs tens of thousands of rockets into civilian population as well as other crimes against humanity. the terrorists threw all their weapons overboard, footage showed clearly how they were beating the soldiers.
"we know that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were killed . Only as a result of the Gaza attack, thousands of people were killed". are you ret@rded erdogan? israel killed about between 10,000-30,000 palestinians in 44 years,mostly terrorists,while turkey killed 20,000-40,000 kurds in less then 30 years,so i doubt they can lecture the israelis about human rights.
History is full of blood from all sides, however, Turkey not like Eurpoe or America where the killing happens for no reason. We are talking about today. If Israelis who most of them from Europe are peacful and want peace, they should give back the land to the palestinians. In fact, the palestenians are asking only for 22% for their lands to establish their country. Many Americans are far from the region and they are brainwashed by the Jewish-Controlled media.
Well said!
Fareed, you really should have probed Erdogan during the interview. He is totally hypocritical. The Ottoman Turks nearly invented cruelty; you have to go back to the Spanish Inquisition to find anything comparable in history. The modern turks invented genocide with their massacre of about 1.5 million Armenians, which Hitler admired and then emulated. The Turks are still occupying Cyprus and suppressing the Greek majority on the Island from exercising their rights. They also invaded Kurdestan to protect the rights of a Turkic minority in the region and to attack Kurdish partisans. The flotilla to Gaza was intended to provoke Israel, and it did. The Israelis have every right to blockage Gaza which they first evacuated only to find that Hamas took over and is using it a as a base from which to send rockets into Israel. If the Kurds did the same from Iraq, the Turks would invade, in fact as noted they did do precisely that. Then he wants evidence of exactly how many Israelis were killed or maimed by the rockets as if he can set a quota on this kind of behavior. He is simply playing to the Arab Moslem street to gain favor with the Arabs; that has not worked well for the Turks in the past and probably won't in the future. As for having the Turkish navy escort a flotilla to Gaza, that would be extremely foolish. It would be an over act of war with very predictable results. He better enlist the help of the Swiss navy first. Turkey is not exactly a naval power, and Israel is the leading military power in the region and is fully capable of protecting its coast line.
Jerry
Stop trying to justify one set of Ignorance and Imperialism by pointing fingers to another (from past or present). It doesn't make it any better. The whole world clearly sees and understands what is going on. The only issue is that nobody is quite strong enough (militarily) to do anything about it. Therefore, the only way to resolve it is through all those involved raising their Consciousness – if possible. Might = right will hopefully not continue being the force that controls the world.
Excellent interview. Pay no attention to the hasbara, they're patrolling every English speaking on the net trying to push their Apartheid drivel. Absolutely no one's listening. Just wait until the General Assembly vote at the UN. That standing ovation for Abbas was a global embrace to the Palestinians just cause and no amount of mud-slinging from the hasbara brigade can change that. Israel has to pay for it's support while those who support Palestinians are overwhelmingly voluntary. Erdogan only said what most of the world's thinking.
Agreed.
the more i think about it the more upset i get.
you let a guy who has no notion on democracy, teaching you about the way democratic regimes should be run..
this guy is no different from asad, he has no respect for democracy, he would do the same in turkey if given a chance..
talks not like a poilitician , but a like a bully...
its very unfortunate that you gave him face time...
And who has a notion of democracy, America, where we rob citizens and put them in debt, to fund corporatocracy and fascism, while letting rich bankers get away with murder? Or Israel...no comment, so as not to offend – but clearly not a model democracy.
ERDOGAN IS TELLING LIES. HE LOVES TELLING LIES. AN ARROGANT AND IGNORANT REGARDING ISRAELI -PALESTINIAN CONFLICT. DOES HE HAS MERCY ON THE KURDISH CITIZENS IN TURKEY? HE HIMSELF IS A MASS MURDERER: HE BOMBED KURDISH VILLAGES IN IRAQ, IN A FOREIGN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY. HE SHOULD STAND TO TRIAL IN HAGUE FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.
Whatever crimes he may be associated with (I cannot confirm) should not justify US-Israeli (or ANY) crimes against Palestinians (or ANYONE) and the world at large. Tyranny cannot and does not (EVER) last forever; every individual and country will have to deal with the karma of their own actions. If people really understood this, we might control our aggressive instincts and act with a bit more civility!
Fareed is a vey weak interviewer. He could learn a lot by watching Hard Talk in the BBC. He does not seem to be aware of facts and by never confronting Erdogan, even when he was telling half truths, gave him a free license and precious prime time to propagate cheap and one sided propaganda. Anything goes.
Mr Erdogan should stop killing the Kurdish children before defending Palestinians. Over a dozen Kurdish kids age between 7-16 were killed last year by the Turkish police.
Erdogwan presumes to lecture Israel and the world about democracy and decency, yet never mentions the many thousands who have died at Turkis hands in Kurdistan. Nor does he or Zakaria mention the recent attacks on Kurdistan by Tukish planes and artillery. Erdogan claims that nobody knows the number of Israeli deaths as a result of Arab attacks. He provocatively asks, "How many Israelie were killed by Palestinian bombs, 10, 20, 100, 200?. The answer is well publicized and is over 1,000 for just the period between 2002 and 2004. Erdogan also claims that "Muslims were never crued to Israel." Well, look again Mr. Erdogan at the Hebron massacre of Jews and at the mass murder of nearly 100 doctors and nurses from Haddash hospital prior to 1948. We need not even go into the thousands of Israeli lives lost because of Arab aggression in 1948, 1967 and 1973. Finally, Mr. Erogan says Israel attacked Gaza, without ever mentioning the thounsands of rockets rained upon Israel which set off Operation Cast Lead. We should not expect much from this demogogue, but Fareed Zakaria merits higher standards. Yet Zakaria remined mum, nodding and continuing to solicit Erdogan's outrageous comments. That Zakaria did not utter a word of correction, diminsihes his stature as a journalist and sullies any professioonal or moral authority he might have had. HVS
A very open and frank interview indeed. Its important to look at the issues fairly, objectively and try solving them. No point debating or fighting on archaeological points. Do we live to correct the history or try change the future so the world is a better place to live?
Erdogan charges Israel with genocide and the only response from the CNN reporter responds, "The question, though, that many people have is, are you taking Turkey down a different path than it's been on since the time of Ataturk?" Bury the rag deep in your face – now is the time for your tears.
Turkey's hands are still dripping with the blood of the millions of Greeks and Armenians that they massacred and of the Kurds they are currently slaughtering. There are more journalists in Turkish prisons at this point in time than there are in China. And yet Erdogan presumes to give lessons of Democracy to others? I would suggest he and the AKP abandon their Islamist / Neo-Ottoman agenda which has brought Turkey to loggerheads with every single one of its neighbours, scale down their warmongering rhetoric, withdraw their battleships from other peoples territory, try applying some democracy at home and then preach to others. If Turkey continues on its current path, I am afraid it will be in for some very nasty surprises. I only hope the Turkish people does not suffer too much before it revolts against these dangerous sabre-rattlers.
This a really good web site about , so-called Armenian genocide.http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/ozan.htm
FINALLY, a head of a major state who is willing to tell the TRUTH about the genocidal Monster that is Israel today. All you have to do is look at the simple statistics to see that Israel is a brutal oppressor. For more details, see IfAmericansKnew.com
Amazing that all freedom Of expression become antisemitism when it come To uncover Israel colonization. Fareed ,should invite More dissident voices......Israel is digging own grave, remember no common enemy or friend only common interest....sooner or later US will come to realize that Israel is too costly be associate with...Then what Israel will do....
His blatant lies are laughable. He claims Israel has killed hundereds of thousands, sheer nonsense. They themseleves do not claim that as it is ridiculous. Turkey has killed more Kurds than Israel has in 6 wars combined and made millions of refugees. Palestine did not exist prior to the British mandate. It was part of the Turkish occupying power in the Holy land.
i think the interview was one sided and not balance u never asked about the Kurds how many thousands he killed when he mention that Israel killed hundreds of thousands that it is not through also there is more Kurds in turkey than Palestinian in the west bank how come he doesn't give them an independent state
Dear Mr. Zakaria:
You don't confront lies when the liar is Muslim (hundreds of thousands Palestinians killed by Israel), yet you label PM Netaniahu intransigent when he is willing to negotiate but the Palestinians refuse to even meet him.
That means that you hold the Jews (Israel) to an impossible higher standard than your fellow Muslims, and holding the Jews to a higher moral standard is antisemitic.
Either you have lost credibility or you were a closet antisemite all this time.
In either case, shame on you and Turkey's PM.
I'll never watch your program again, as it has become hateful and neither informative nor instructive.
Why always being call anti-Semite when disagreeing with Israel policy! Don't forget Arab are semitics and after 1492 only country to welcome Jews to be known as sepharadic were arabics muslims from north africa and Turkey, so please stop playing that card and accept the factual reality: don't still my house and ask me if I want to share it with you....Jews and Muslims don't have any hate to share but extremism on both side should be repudiated, tears of Jew mother
are not sweeter than the palestinians one.
You don't address anything I say.
I hope you're not supporting lies.
Antisemitism is strictly anti-Jewish (that is accepted usage), so any gentile, Arab (Semitic) can be antisemitic, and Jews can also be antisemitic.
I'm calling antisemitism not a disagreement with Israel, but holding the Jews to a higher moral standard is antisemitic.
Please refer to 2nd Paragraph on the section Erdogan on Isral:
In the translation of Prime Minister Erdogan's speech, it is said "But on the other hand, we know that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were killed. Only as a result of the Gaza attack, thousands of people were killed"
What Prime Minister is saying in Turkish should be translated as follows:
On the other hand, we know that hundreds of, thousands of Palestinians were killed. Only as a result of the Gaza attack, thousands of people were killed.
This mistake should be corrected by CNN with an apology.
PM Erdogan still claims that hundreds of, thousands of Palestinians were killed, and that remains a lie, even if your correction is appropriate.
Nobody should bear false testimony.
You can't have both:
a. "hundreds of Palestinians were killed"
b. "thousands of Palestinians were killed"
In other words, one of these statements (a or b) is a lie.
ERDOGAN SAID: “Yüzlerce, binlerce, on binlerce Filistinli öldürüldü” THAT MEANS: "Hundred´s, Thousand´s and ten-thousand´s of Palestinians were killed"
SO CNN – APOLOGY AND EVERYTHING IS FINE. IF YOU NEED A NEW TURKISH TRANSLATOR LET ME KNOW- I WORK CHEAPER THAN A SLAVE
Is anything CNN's translator got right?
If not, can you please tell us what PM Erdogan actually said, as CNN has lost credibility?
PM Erdogan said in Turkish "yuzlerce, binlerce, onbinlerce Filistinli olduruldu". This means that the hundreds of, thousands of, ten thousands of Palestinians were killed.
I can only find the erroneous English translated transcription.
Can you listen to the interview and transcribe in the original, so we can get Google to translate, as it does a better job than humans.
I'm interested in knowing the truth, unlike Mr. Zakaria or CNN.
Also, thank you for alerting us as to the faulty translation.
Please understand my genuine concern:
Turkey seems to have nuclear missiles, half of them under its control.
PM Erdogan is intent on an irresponsible policy of brinkmanship with Israel.
Since Israel has second strike nuclear capacity, UN and NATO should take those missiles away.
In any case, those missiles are superfluous since the end of the cold war, and the US has nuclear submarines that can launch from anywhere in the world.
What a translation say for CNN. Will you withhold information AWARE? Why do you translate hundreds of thousands while Erdogan tens, hundreds, thousands have said? Is this a plan by Israeli CNN? People who do not understand Turkish-believing something without asking, on CNN and CNN knowingly false news ... So on, like hearing ...
Google translates:
"Hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed"
I'll see if I can get a transcription of the whole interview and have Google translate.
There is a tranlation mistake, a huge mistake. You translated like this:
" “On the other hand, we know that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PALESTINIANS WERE KILLED. Only as a result of the Gaza attack thousands of people were killed,”
It is clear from the Turkish transcript of the interview provided by the Anatolia news agency that Erdoğan said HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PALESTINIANS WERE KILLED by Israelis.
YOU CAN FIND AN ARTICLE ABOUT THIS HERE http://www.todayszaman.com/news-258290-erdogans-mistranslated-remarks-outrage-israel.html
Thousand or hundred of...where the sens of decency. Jews and muslims can live together and did but no one was between.....Andalousia, fatimids! Just stop useless bashing and Erdogan do have the rights to express as much as anyother politician...for one Muslim interview you do have hundred or ten thousand Zionist interviews. Thank you Fareed.
Judging from your posts, you are semi-literate, so I'll be gentle with you:
Thank you Fareed for what? Please be specific.
Nobody denies PM Erdogan his right of speech or expression, so why do you imply that (it's called lying)?
In fact, the more he speaks, the more he unveils his dishonesty and hipocrisy, as well as his low mental capacity (he can barely make a coherent statement), so please, let him speak day and night.
The Zionists say publicly and consistently that Jews can live in peace with Muslims, so by implying the opposite you are lying again.
It is the Hamas terrorists in Gaza and elsewhere that say the opposite (apparently you are ignorant of these facts also).
You use the word Zionists in a negative way, like the Nazis used the word Jews, and that is hateful.
Were you born a bigot or did your parents teach you bigotry?
You say "for one Muslim interview you do have hundred or ten thousand Zionist interviews."
That is not true, but I'll give you the opportunity to prove it. Otherwise, that is another of your lies.
What do you expect to accomplish by lying
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