September 30th, 2011
11:09 AM ET

Zakaria: Calling out Pakistan’s dangerous game

Editor's Note: Tune in Sunday at 10a.m. ET/PT to watch Fareed Zakaria's full interview with Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen and Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar.

By Fareed Zakaria, CNN

In his last official statement as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen chose to publicly highlight the connections between the Pakistani military and the Haqqani network, one of the most deadly terror groups operating in Afghanistan. What Adm. Mullen said in public this week is something many U.S. government officials have felt privately for years.  The question is: Why did Mullen feel it was necessary to speak publicly now?

For many years, the U.S. military has been understanding of the Pakistani military. Both sides have seen one another as professionals. And Pakistan has long appealed to the U.S. as comrades in arms.

U.S. officials like Admiral Mullen have been part of that close relationship. Mullen has visited Pakistan 27 times and has met frequently with General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Pakistan’s Chief of Army Staff. The U.S. military has invested a great deal in this relationship and its leaders have been quite sympathetic to Pakistan’s argument that goes something like this:

“We are trying to take on these militants. We don’t have as much capacity as you might think. We have to enter remote parts of the country, which we have never gone into before. And, by the way, we have already launched significant military operations and taken casualties in the fight against militant groups. So, give us time and understand our situation.”

American officials have been relatively sympathetic to this view.

But there has always been an alternate view that the Pakistani military has created a Frankenstein’s monster out of these militant groups. Some of these groups have now turned on Pakistan. Others keep peace with Pakistan, but carry out brutal assaults in Afghanistan against Afghans, Indians and Westerners.  People who espouse the Frankenstein’s monster view maintain that the Pakistani military knows these groups have gotten out of hand, but remains extremely reluctant to cut the cord with them because it thinks they are a cheap, effective way to keep Afghanistan and India on edge and to promote Pakistan’s interests surreptitiously.

For many years, people like Mullen have been somewhat understanding of the Pakistani military’s point of view.  America has pressed Pakistan to combat militant groups, but only privately. Over the last year, however, there have been three developments, which changed this. First, there have been a series of incidents in which the United States and U.S. troops have been targeted in brutal attacks. Second, there is increasing amounts of evidence that the groups launching these attacks had close connections with the Pakistani military. This does not mean these groups are run by the Pakistani military, but these are not just casual contacts either. The Pakistani military provides these groups with funding; it allows them to operate in safe havens; and it shares logistical information with them. Third, suspicions were greatly raised when Osama bin Laden was discovered hiding just miles from a Pakistani military cantonment.

All of this has come together to make people like Adm. Mullen feel that they have been taken advantage of, that private pressure is not working and that it is time to put some public pressure on Pakistan.  I don’t know if this public pressure will work.  Such pressure can be construed as an American affront against Pakistan.  That is the way it is being played in Pakistan now.  It is important to note that the Pakistani military is able to turn on a nationalist media campaign whenever it feels threatened. It has an extensive network of people on the military’s payroll - or friendly to it - and those people in press and parliament have always denounced any kind of pressure on the Pakistani military as an attack on Pakistan itself.  This produces an obvious and predictable nationalist reaction.

The tragedy in all of this is that the United States is actually on the side of the Pakistani people.  It is profoundly in the interests of Pakistan that it develops a stronger civil society, civilian government and democratic system.  This civilian government needs to assert its supremacy and cuts the cords between the Pakistani security establishment and extreme jihadi groups.  It is deeply in the interest of the Pakistani people that Pakistan develops a healthy, civilian conception of its national interests rather than one that is entirely shaped by the military and intelligence services. It remains to be seen whether this will happen.  The truth of the matter is, ironically, the U.S. is the country that is standing up for the interests of the Pakistani people.  The Pakistani people would benefit by a reduction of surreptitious conflict and security tensions.  Pakistan’s military needs to give up its obsession with geopolitical games, gaining “strategic depth” in Afghanistan and keeping India on the defensive through the use of militants. It is time for Pakistan’s leaders to focus on economic development.

Tune in Sunday at 10a.m. ET/PT to watch Fareed Zakaria's full interview with Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen and Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar.

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  1. Ali dong fong

    in 2014 india is going to break in to in 8 free states we Pakistani will help north east states of india to get their libations form this mess.

    love to pakistan and love to china

    October 4, 2011 at 9:17 am | Reply
    • Saba Siddiqui

      WOW AMERICANS AMERICANS

      SEE THE TRUE COLOR OF A PAKISTANI, HE ALWAYS WANTS CHINA, YOUR ENEMY AND PAKISTANIS ARE ENEMIES OF THE WEST AND DEMOCRACY

      INSHAALLAH , WE KNOW PAKISTAN WILL NOE EXIST IN 2014

      IT WILL COLLAPSE AND FREE BALOCHISTAN AND KASHMIR ( OCCUPIED BY PAKIS) WILL RETURN TO INDIA AND WE CAN DIVIDE UP THE CAKE AS WE WANT

      October 4, 2011 at 10:03 am | Reply
  2. Ali dong fong

    in 2014 india is going to break in to 8 free states we Pakistani will help the north east states of india to get their librations form this mess.

    love to pakistan and love to china

    October 4, 2011 at 9:30 am | Reply
  3. Ali dong fong

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvnFL9vP3vQ&w=640&h=360]

    October 4, 2011 at 9:34 am | Reply
  4. Ali dong fong

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILc7wdhst1Y&w=640&h=360]

    October 4, 2011 at 9:40 am | Reply
  5. Ali dong fong

    see the massacre and mass murder of minorities in India including Sikh, Muslim and Christians as well .where are u miss saba can u defend it ?so what hell u all Indians are talking about Pakistan all the time? see yours own home versen then any other country on this planet.

    October 4, 2011 at 9:47 am | Reply
    • Saba Siddiqui

      tHERE ARE NO MINORITIES IN PAKISTAN , THEY ALL HAVE BEEN PERSECUTED , INSULTED FOR BEING HINDU AND

      INDIA HAS A SIKH PM , CHRISTIAN HEAD OF CONGRESS PARTY AND HAD A MUSLIM PRESIDENT, HAS A MUSLIM VICE PRESDIENT

      YOU PAKIS THEN TALK OUT OF YOUR A$$ES...DISGUSTING HYPOCRITES PAKIS ARE BY BIRTH

      NOW LOOK AT YOUR RECORD ON WOMEN IN NBC REPORT,

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn7azI_uxRo&w=640&h=360]

      October 4, 2011 at 9:56 am | Reply
      • Ali dong fong

        ONE SHOULD BRING SOME THING NEWS ITS A WAR SITUATION AND NOT ANY THING EVEN GET PROOFED A BDH IS NOT ABLE TO HANG ANY WAR CRIMINAL INSIDE THEIR OWN COUNTRY COZ NOTHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN DURING 1971.BUT SABA SEE YOURS RECENT DAYS VICTIMS ITS NOT A WAR LIKE SITUATION GUYS .SHAME ON TO BE AN INDIAN

        October 4, 2011 at 11:17 am |
  6. Saba Siddiqui

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iP7D3PXv4U&w=640&h=360]

    October 4, 2011 at 9:57 am | Reply
  7. Saba Siddiqui

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghsnpnnE8ro&w=640&h=360]

    October 4, 2011 at 10:01 am | Reply
  8. Ali dong fong

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixYtFurlo60&w=640&h=360]

    October 4, 2011 at 10:05 am | Reply
  9. Saba Siddiqui

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyTAzrP4r4M&w=640&h=360]

    October 4, 2011 at 10:07 am | Reply
  10. Ali dong fong

    SEE THE PROOF OF WORLD NO 1 PAKI ARMY.SO NO CHANCE NO MISTAKE AND NO MISADVENTURE WITH PAKISTAN

    THANKS

    October 4, 2011 at 10:09 am | Reply
    • Saba Siddiqui

      Worlds No 1 TERRORIST ARMY THAT HID BIN LADEN FOR 5 YEARS 😦 😦

      Worlds No 1 TERRORIST ARMY THAT ORCHESTRATED THE MUMBAI ATTACKS 😦 😦

      Worlds No 1 TERRORIST ARMY THAT HELPED HAQQANIS ATTACK US SOLDIERS 😦 😦

      Worlds No 1 TERRORIST ARMY THAT SURRENDERED WITH 90000 SOLDIERS BEFORE INDIA DURING 1971 WAR, THAT WAS AN ACT OF BRAVERY INDEED 🙂 🙂

      October 4, 2011 at 10:19 am | Reply
    • Saba Siddiqui

      HA HA HA HA

      HA HA HA HA

      HA HA HA HA

      Laugh your ass out , ALI thinks worlds no1 army is Pakistani army

      perhaps he saw the ranking in DESCENDING ORDER, LOL.....:) 🙂

      October 4, 2011 at 10:30 am | Reply
  11. Saba Siddiqui

    Fareed Zakaria debates the PAKISTAN PROBLEM

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcRvj2E_UYk&w=640&h=360]

    October 4, 2011 at 10:17 am | Reply
    • Ali dong fong

      As a nation, India is geographically, culturally and politically trapped, isolated and encircled. Now that it has been cut off from rest of Asia, the Indians (unfortunately) have nowhere to go but into the ocean. A look at a map conveys the inevitability of this scenario. For India to survive, it has no choice but to have excellent relations with Pakistan. This is a matter of time. The question is whether Pakistan has a big heart to accommodate the very survival of India/Hindu race. Perhaps not this time around. Obviously India is eyeing some slivers of territory that would reduce this dependence but Pakistan’s nuclear carpet bombing capability has and will prevent this.

      hey Meanwhile, Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically with Central Asia, Middle East and Europe. While also situated at the gateway to the Arabian Gulf, Pakistan also will gain access to the waters of the Caspian Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea, Arabian Sea, China Sea and the Pacific Ocean. This positions Pakistan at the crossroads to peace and prosperity in the world and economic well being as well as military clout.

      October 4, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Reply
      • Saba Siddiqui

        OH REALLY,

        "Pakistan has a big heart to accommodate the very survival of India/Hindu race"

        LOOK AT THE REAL EXTREMIST FACE OF THIS JIHADI CALLED ALI

        INDIA IS NOT ENCIRCLED BY HOSTILE NEIGHBORS, PAKISTAN IS

        INDIAS CULTURAL AND GEO POLITICAL INFLUENCE EXTENTS TO ALL CORNERS OF THE WORLD

        PAKISTANI TERRORISM EXTENDS TO THE WHOLE WORLD

        ali says "Meanwhile, Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically "

        ha ha ha ha HE just copied that , he cannot write such bombastic language

        PAKISTAN HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY BEEN RANKED A FAILED STATE

        [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJF6FsyaThI&w=640&h=360]

        [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBFym4IZsgo&w=640&h=360]

        October 4, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
  12. Saba Siddiqui

    listen up....the truth

    To the people of America, Analysts say that ISI and CIA never trust each other

    so if ISI is lying so much then why PAY PAKISTAN 20 BILLION DOLLARS ?????

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02s2o7_4AsM&w=640&h=360]

    October 4, 2011 at 11:41 am | Reply
  13. TP

    We were told OBL was in a remote part of the country.....meanwhile he was having luch with the top army brass......give me a break

    October 4, 2011 at 11:54 am | Reply
  14. Saba Siddiqui

    India has a GLOBAL AGENDA TO DESTROY TERRORISM FROM ITS ROOTS AND ITS ROOTS LIE IN PAKISTAN

    PAKISTAN IS LIKE A SNAKE THAT DRINKS THE MILK OF ITS PATRON AND SPEWS VENOM ON THE PATRON ( UNITED STATES)

    HEAD OF SUCH A SNAKE SHOULD BE CUT OFF..

    October 4, 2011 at 2:46 pm | Reply
    • Ali dong fong

      how extremist and frustrated she is. she or he is in a real extremist sate of mind pls feel her or his pain against Pakistan and help her to destroy Pakistan.so its getting clear that Indians are extremist mentally ,i am just pasting the real videos and defending Pakistan and she comes our as Indian extremist which i wana show the world. Pakistan is a peace loving country and fighting for world peace on other hand Indian is doing nothing for world peace. that's the real story. now class is dismissed miss saba.(a fanatic Hindu same like zionest)

      October 4, 2011 at 4:04 pm | Reply
      • Saba Siddiqui

        OH YES we wanna dissolve the concept of Pakistan

        we cannot live with PAKI EXTREMISTS LIKE U'

        U AND OTHER PAKIS DON'T RESPECT ZIONISM AND HINDUISM

        SO DON'T EXPECT RESPECT FOR ISLAM

        October 4, 2011 at 4:25 pm |
      • Saba Siddiqui

        PAKISTAN IS NOT A PEACE LOVING COUNTRY , PAKISTAN STARTED ALL WARS WITH INDIA

        [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WydQnXaxOJ4&w=640&h=360]

        OH YES we wanna dissolve the concept of Pakistan AND send you and people like u to SAUDI ARABIA, THAT IS WHERE U BELONG

        then whole of INDIAN SUBCONTINENT WILL BE SECULAR AND PROSPEROUS

        and LET ME REMIND YOU THAT PAKISTAN LOST ALL WARS WITH INDIA

        [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZkYFl1NL5M&w=640&h=360]

        October 4, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
  15. Ali dong fong

    As a nation, India is geographically, culturally and politically trapped, isolated and encircled. Now that it has been cut off from rest of Asia, the Indians (unfortunately) have nowhere to go but into the ocean. A look at a map conveys the inevitability of this scenario. For India to survive, it has no choice but to have excellent relations with Pakistan. This is a matter of time. The question is whether Pakistan has a big heart to accommodate the very survival of India/Hindu race. Perhaps not this time around. Obviously India is eyeing some slivers of territory that would reduce this dependence but Pakistan’s nuclear carpet bombing capability has and will prevent this.

    Meanwhile, Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically with Central Asia, Middle East and Europe. While also situated at the gateway to the Arabian Gulf, Pakistan also will gain access to the waters of the Caspian Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea, Arabian Sea, China Sea and the Pacific Ocean. This positions Pakistan at the crossroads to peace and prosperity in the world and economic well being as well as military clout.

    October 4, 2011 at 4:02 pm | Reply
    • Saba Siddiqui

      "Pakistan has a big heart to accommodate the very survival of India/Hindu race"

      LOOK AT THE REAL EXTREMIST FACE OF THIS JIHADI CALLED ALI

      INDIA IS NOT ENCIRCLED BY HOSTILE NEIGHBORS, PAKISTAN IS

      INDIAS CULTURAL AND GEO POLITICAL INFLUENCE EXTENTS TO ALL CORNERS OF THE WORLD

      PAKISTANI TERRORISM EXTENDS TO THE WHOLE WORLD

      ali says "Meanwhile, Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically "

      ha ha ha ha HE just copied that , he cannot write such bombastic language

      PAKISTAN HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY BEEN RANKED A FAILED STATE

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJF6FsyaThI&w=640&h=360]

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBFym4IZsgo&w=640&h=360]

      October 4, 2011 at 4:31 pm | Reply
  16. Ali dong fong

    THIS IS THE LAST THING MR. MULLEN COULD DO i.e. TO BLAME PAKISTAN FOR HIS OWN FAILED CAREER. AMERICANS CAN NEVER WIN THIS WAR BECAUSE THIS IS BASED ON A FALSE PROPAGANDA FROM THE DAY 1ST. AMERICAN LIED AND KILLED MILLIONS IN IRAQ. MR OBAMA HIMSELF SAID THAT CIA MERCENARY RAYMOND DAVIS WAS A DIPLOMAT AND SO ENJOYED DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY BUT LATER HE ACCEPTED THAT HE WAS A CIA OPERATOR AND KILLED TWO MEN IN LAHORE. TODAY MR RAYMOND DAVIS ALSO BEATEN A 50 YEARS OLD MAN IN COLORADO ON A PETTY PARKING SPACE DISPUTE. THIS IS THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIVING UTTERING LIES ON HIGHEST LEVEL ( EVEN BY PRESIDENT HIMSELF), KILLING THE INNOCENTS AND POOR AND LATER BLAMING OTHERS FOR THEIR OWN FAILURES. WHAT ABOUT MR ZAKRIA HE IS MADE IN INDIA AND SO HIS MIND THESE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY OBSESSED WITH HATRED TOWARDS PAKISTAN. PEOPLE LIKE HIM EARNING VERY GOOD DOLLARS THESE DAYS AS FEARING JOBLESSNESS BACK IN INDIA

    October 4, 2011 at 4:39 pm | Reply
  17. David

    As a nation, India is geographically, culturally and politically trapped, isolated and encircled. Now that it has been cut off from rest of Asia, the Indians (unfortunately) have nowhere to go but into the ocean. A look at a map conveys the inevitability of this scenario. For India to survive, it has no choice but to have excellent relations with Pakistan. This is a matter of time. The question is whether Pakistan has a big heart to accommodate the very survival of India/Hindu race. Perhaps not this time around. Obviously India is eyeing some slivers of territory that would reduce this dependence but Pakistan’s nuclear carpet bombing capability has and will prevent this.

    I thing its true miss saba Meanwhile, Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically with Central Asia, Middle East and Europe. While also situated at the gateway to the Arabian Gulf, Pakistan also will gain access to the waters of the Caspian Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea, Arabian Sea, China Sea and the Pacific Ocean. This positions Pakistan at the crossroads to peace and prosperity in the world and economic well being as well as military clout.

    October 4, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Reply
    • Saba Siddiqui

      liar liar pAKI LIAR 😦 LIAR LIAR PAKI LIAR

      ALI HAS RENAMED HIMSELF AS "DAVID" WHAT A PAKI LIAR

      "Pakistan has a big heart to accommodate the very survival of India/Hindu race"

      LOOK AT THE REAL EXTREMIST FACE OF THIS JIHADI CALLED ALI/DAVID

      INDIA IS NOT ENCIRCLED BY HOSTILE NEIGHBORS, PAKISTAN IS

      INDIAS CULTURAL AND GEO POLITICAL INFLUENCE EXTENTS TO ALL CORNERS OF THE WORLD

      PAKISTANI TERRORISM EXTENDS TO THE WHOLE WORLD

      ali says "Meanwhile, Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically "

      ha ha ha ha HE just copied that , he cannot write such bombastic language

      PAKISTAN HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY BEEN RANKED A FAILED STATE

      October 4, 2011 at 4:47 pm | Reply
  18. David

    jihad means to resist or struggle against his or her inner self in a positive sense, like not doing bad things not taking alcohol and so on.i dont know what miss saba is talking about ?coz she is only a Hindu fanatic , islam is a peaceful religion i had experience while living ten years in middle east i see nothing bad over there not even a single crime in saudi in a whole year.what the hell she is talking about?

    October 4, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Reply
  19. Saba Siddiqui

    NOT ONLY THE US , EVEN AFGHAN PRESIDENT BLAMES ISI AND PAKISTAN FOR ATTACKS ON AFGAN SOIL

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcfLi5Bwkbg&w=640&h=360]

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB-zNkBoX_4&w=640&h=360]

    October 4, 2011 at 5:00 pm | Reply
  20. Ali dong fong

    he is just a pa pit come with some thing more credible.he live half of his life in Pakistan so dont take him seriously

    October 4, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Reply
  21. Ali dong fong

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-15146327

    October 4, 2011 at 5:27 pm | Reply
  22. Ali dong fong

    As a nation, India is geographically, culturally and politically trapped, isolated and encircled. Now that it has been cut off from rest of Asia, the Indians (unfortunately) have nowhere to go but into the ocean. A look at a map conveys the inevitability of this scenario. For India to survive, it has no choice but to have excellent relations with Pakistan. This is a matter of time. The question is whether Pakistan has a big heart to accommodate the very survival of India/Hindu race. Perhaps not this time around. Obviously India is eyeing some slivers of territory that would reduce this dependence but Pakistan’s nuclear carpet bombing capability has and will prevent this.

    I thing its true miss saba Meanwhile, Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically with Central Asia, Middle East and Europe. While also situated at the gateway to the Arabian Gulf, Pakistan also will gain access to the waters of the Caspian Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea, Arabian Sea, China Sea and the Pacific Ocean. This positions Pakistan at the crossroads to peace and prosperity in the world and economic well being as well as military clout.

    October 5, 2011 at 8:20 am | Reply
    • dore

      Pakistan isnt rising anywhere.. and saying India is isolated is like saying a Bengal tiger is surrounded by mice. Pakistan is a failed government intent on having a war that will result in nothing good.. I just want to know what India is going to do with all that new real estate?

      October 5, 2011 at 11:49 am | Reply
  23. NukeIslam

    A friend of Osama Bin Laden America should trust and think about $$ Aid to its ally in War on Terror

    Bin Laden death: 'CIA doctor' accused of treason

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-15206639

    such a nice gesture of friendship and trustworthy ally

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    October 6, 2011 at 11:28 pm | Reply
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