The following is an excerpt of my interview with Thorbjørn Jagland, Chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, which is responsible for awarding the Nobel Peace Prize. In this section, Jagland speaks about whether Obama lived up to the expectations of the Nobel Peace Prize he was awarded in 2009. The rest of the interview will be published later today covering topics from the tragedy in Norway to Europe's role in Central Asia.
Has President Obama lived up to his Nobel Peace Prize?
Yes, I think so. I’m as convinced as I was when he got it that he deserved it for many reasons. He changed so many things in American foreign policy; During three months’ time, he, for instance and that’s what’s the main reason why he got the prize, namely that he paved the way for new negotiations with the Russian Federation about nuclear arms. If you look at the will of Alfred Nobel that goes directly to what he said that the prize should go to the person that has worked for - he called it reduction of standing armies but in today’s terms it means arm control and disarmament. So President Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize because he paved the way for such negotiations; he said that he was willing to discuss the nuclear shield of Europe and therefore, the Russians were beginning to come back to the table and negotiations started again.
We couldn’t avoid giving the prize to President Obama given the will of Alfred Nobel and what he did on this point. But, there are other things also, which we looked at, for instance, the fact that he started immediately to build bridges to the Muslim world throughout the time.
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I think that's a fairly easy question to answer–no. There have been much more deserving people, much more deserving women for that matter, that have gone ignored in the past. This year, the Nobel committee finally got it right. These three women are more than deserving of the prize. For more on the Nobel Peace prize this year and the winners, check out http://www.democracynow.org. They had a whole segment about it today.
Agreed
lets just remove the politically correct bull and call it what it was..Obama President because he is black! not chris rock black but dark skined enough to pass....He got the peace prize because he won the election! period hes a puppet has been one since he started running for the office
Not sure what politically correct bull you're talking about Sadstatesofaffairs. There are a lot of legitimate reasons to believe that Obama didn't deserve the Nobel; but, :because he's black" isn't one of them. So Ralph Bunche, Albert John Luthuli, Martin Luther King, Jr, Anwar El Sadat, Sir William Arthur Lewis, Desmond Tutu, Wole Soyinka, Derek Walcott, Toni Morrison, Nelson Mandela, Kofi Annan, and Wangari Maathai all won the Nobel just because they are black? They're all Nobel recipients, they're all black. In case you don't realize it, saying that the only reason Obama got it was because he's black makes you look like a racist.
JennyMK89, the way you wrote your response, are you saying that women aren't people too? If they are, in fact, people, why call them out separately from people?
STClown – Get a life. Look at the other replies. Are others making stupid remarks like yours ? No. You're along in the wilderness of liberalism with rose colored glasses on. I for one agree with many others... He done nothing to deserve the "Peace" prize except to continue digging deeper in a war people in the US increasingly don't want.
The three women are fine. But, do you think the Wall-Street Spring will topple down Obama and his administration?...now, that is the question of this century.
I'm betting it will be the last time they give out the prize based on future potential.
Is there another kind of potential?
Sorry, as an American maybe I'm to close to it, Me all I see is a reward for the lies he told, and sionce has gone back on. In some cases like the wars he says now that he definatly was giong to advance the wars all along!
Under such terms Hitler should have gotten a nobel!
I don't think he should have gotten it either, I think the conflicts he perpetuated/started during his time outweight the good things he did.
However, please stop comparing him to Hitler. Such comparisons are generally the last resort of a stupid mind and pretty much instantly destroy your credibility.
BK - I bet you didn't mind too much when Bush was called Hitler. The shoe is on the other foot with BO in office and the libs do not like it when you disparage their holy ones name.
Double Standard .....Bush was "Hitler" but it's like Thou shalt not take the name of the Obama thy godlike figure in vain! I thought conservatives were the more religious group!
Well he sure as heck wouldn't have got it if they'd known that some of his "potential" plans included:
# Invading Pakistan illegally to kill OBL
# attacking Yemen illegally to murder Al Awlaki
# killing innocent civilians with drones in Libya in the hopes they'd hit Gadhafi
# killing innocent people in Pakistan with drones
# deliberately encourage the Arab spring knowing [as we all do] that it, by it's very nature, puts Israel in harms way.
Obama was nominated for the NPP BEFORE hewas elected. So what did he get it for? Brealing up street fights in Chicago??????????????????????
Lets award Mubarak of Egypt, Ali of Tunisia, Saleh of Yemen, Alkalifa and Hamad of Bahrain, Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, Gadaffi of
Lets award Mubarak of Egypt, Ali of Tunisia, Saleh of Yemen, Alkalifa and Hamad of Bahrain, Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, Gadaffi of Libya. Nonsense!!!!!!
Richard, The death tolls of the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld war is still running. If they did not start the wars we would not be there, WMD my butt. So those past lives and the lives to come as a direct reaction to Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld warmongering will always be laid at the initiators feet in my book. Blaming President Obama for this is like blaming a Fire Chief for the fire some moron started!! Sorry, 90,000 lives is a lot and I will forever remember the warmonger team Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld!!!!
AaronT3: I am truly sorry for 90,000 people. Now, how about the millions of people being displaced, out of work, no peace and prosper because they do not have any jobs at all?....90,000 VS Millions (9.1%)...now, who's bad?...more importantly, do you think the Wall-Street Spring will topple Obama from his presidency?.....THINK ABOUT it.
Future potential........? Amazing how the individual (Alfred Nobel) the original prize was named for invented one of the most destructive substances (dynomite) on earth. Our "Peace Prize" winner busily leads this nation into total disaster. He kills terrorist U.S. citizens from on high in the atmosphere with Hellfire missiles. He expands a war in Afganistan he promised to get us out of. He participates in an illegal war in Libya without the consent of anyone. His administration supplies thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels who kill thousands of Mexican people and our own law enforcement officers. And we're supposed to believe the problem with our nation rests with the "bitter clingers" holding on to their guns and bibles?
No, fellow Americans, the problem lies with those of us who voted for Hope and Change. We certainly have achieved the change that our Dear Leader evisioned for us....and he's not through yet! As for Hope... it is certainly fading for those of us who refuse to accept the folly that is Barak Obama.
OBAMA HAS DONE A FAR BETTER JOB THAN GEORGE BUSH, WHAT I THINK IS THE PROBLEM HERE IS OBAMA'S SKIN COLOR. HE'S A BLACK MAN . HE JUST NEEDS TO LET THE JOB GO.
Amen, Vegas Rage. They awarded it based on the hope that he would change our foreign policy. he has not. He was greeted like a rock star across the globe during his campaign (and why does a candidate for US office go speak in Europe?!). Clearly he has not earned that–he has not changed foreign policy, nor has he negotiated any ground-breaking, historic treaties. Arms reductions negotiations, while good, have been ongoing since Reagan ended the Cold War. Obama has continued Bush's foreign and defense policies because, I think, once he took office he realized how big a job it was and, as someone whose resume consists of "community organizer" realized he had no clue what to do. Bottom line is that it's not the business of Europe or the Nobel committee to try to influence how we as Americans approach our relationships with nations around the globe.
PS to ANN: SO sick of hearing this or that is because of Obama's skin color, good or bad. He is a man first, and his color is secondary. Your intent isn't even entirely clear. Do you mean he won it because of his skin? Or people just say he doesn't deserve it because of that? Either way, I immediately dismiss the replies of anyone who says "It's his race!" That sort of knee-jerk reaction is a complete and total cop out.
im sorry but i realy think obama realy has lived up to the nobel peace prize. look at all the things he's done he's accomplished more than most of the past presidents and he has done things they have been trying to do for years.
Such as???
Like what Audrey ? Please enlighten me.
What a joke!! He has done absolutely ZERO when it comes to receiving the Peace Prize!!!!! It was all given to him based on what they thought would happen in the future. This was the biggest joke ever!
uh, i think audrey is joking.
Did anyone read the article? Obama paved the way...and got done...a nuclear arms treaty with Russia. He also stopped the insane Star Wars program. These are huge accomplishments. But then, all you learned scholars must know a lot better than the Nobel Organization.
@sane, what are you talking about?? "Star Wars" was proposed in 1983 and was dissolved in the early 1990s. Nuclear Treaty with Russia? The Cold War is considered to have ended in 1991, and there have been 15 major nuclear arms treaties with Russia in past, arguably all of them more important than the one in 2010, given that again, the Cold War ended in 1991. Also, the "article" is an excerpt from an interview with Thorbjørn Jagland, it is not a scholarly or unbiased assessment, it is the point of view from a committee chairman on weather or not they made a major mistake of huge political consequences...surprisingly he said "no".
So yes, many of us did read (and understand, and then independently think about) this article, now ask yourself, did you?
Wow. I want some of the stuff you've been smoking. It definitely alters reality. Obama hasn't done squat to promote world peace, other than making America weaker for the next time we are attacked at home or abroad. Obama ranks right up there with Carter as a president that placates the bullies of the world while he is in the limelight, only leading to America paying a terrible price for his actions a few years down the road.
Such as, another military push in Afghanistan, expansion of drones missions including the killing of noncombatants, supporting the NATO bombings in Libya with the goal being to facilitate Western oil companies getting access to Libya's oil, support for Israel and failure to reverse that notwithstanding Israel's evicting Palestinians in East Jerusalem so that flats could be build for Israelis and with Israel doing the same in the West Bank, supporting the Yemeni dictator Saleh because he mouths the Obama line regarding "terrorism," etc.
Getting the troops back home. So lessSoldiers and civilians die
http://whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.com/?q=14
Enlighten yourselves, those who said Pres. Obama hasn't accomplished anything.
Why is it that Barry needs permission to "be clear", but does not need permission to bomb Libya?
Jason, that's a good one.
well, we're still performing our peacekeeping efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq. And, we started new peacekeeping efforts in Libya. We've also threatened new peacekeeping efforts in Syria. BO is just so full of peace.
@Sane – he got a nuclear treaty with Russia 2 years AFTER he was elected.
He was nominated for the NPP BEFORE he was elected. See how daft you look?
@Blogson – Are you referring to the housing being built by the Israelis on the ISRAELI – ANNEXED AREA of Jerusalem under Civil and Municiple Law????????????
Why in heavens name do you people insist that the building is illegal when you DON'T know the facts.
Sure he has! He started a war in Libya. He is now starting a war in Syria. He is denying Palestinians statehood. Yeah, he's a real peace loving guy.
You are STUPID!!!! How about Reagan????
Heather, from Facebook, "Things President Obama has done"
1. Saved the collapse of the American automotive industry by making GM restructure before bailing them out, and putting incentive money to help the industry-2. Shifted the focus of the war from Iraq to Afghanistan, and putting the emphasis on reducing terrorism where it should have been all along-3. Relaxed Anti-American tensions throughout the world-4. Signed order to close the prisoner “torture camp” at Guantanamo Bay-5. Has made the environment a national priority, and a primary source for job creation-6. Has made education a national priority by putting emphasis and money behind new ideas like charter schools, but speaking directly to school children in telling them they have to do their part.-7. Won the Nobel Peace Prize-8. $789 billion economic stimulus plan-9. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court-10. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles-11. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans-
12. Renewed dialogue with NATO and other allies and partners on strategic issues.-13. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force… this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.-14. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops-15. “Cash for clunkers” program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulates auto sales-16. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan-17. Closed offshore tax safe havens-18. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan-19. Ended media “blackout” on war casualties; reporting full information
24. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports-25. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act has created 2.1 million jobs (as of 12/31/09).-26. Ended previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions-27. Ended previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
28. Ended previous policy on torture; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards-29. . Launched Recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, an unprecedented step to provide transparency and accountability through technology.-30. Ended previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices-31. Ended previous “stop-loss” policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
32. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources-33. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient-34. Established a new cyber security office-35. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children-36. Expanding vaccination programs-37. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses-38. . Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America’s Veterans.-
39. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research-40. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools-41. Responded with compassion and leadership to the earthquake in Haiti-42. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters-43. Launched Business.gov – enabling conversation and online collaboration between small business owners, government representatives and industry experts in discussion forums relevant to starting and managing a business. Great for the economy.
44. Improved housing for military personnel-45. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals-46. Changed failing war strategy in Afghanistan.-47. Improving benefits for veterans-48. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants…) after years of neglect-49. Donated his $1.4 million Nobel Prize to nonprofits.-50. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program-51. Provided tax credits to first-time home buyers through the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009 to revitalize the U.S. housing market.-52. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
56. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000-57. Limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House-58. Protected 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors through the Recovery Act that would have otherwise been lost.-59. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
60. Children’s Health Insurance Reauthorization Act on February 4, 2009, provides quality health care to 11 million kids – 4 million who were previously uninsured.-61. Lower drug costs for seniors-62. Making more loans available to small businesses-63. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration-64. Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act, the first piece of comprehensive legislation aimed at improving the lives of Americans living with paralysis-65. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
66. Announced creation of a Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record for members of the U.S. Armed Forces to improve quality of medical care.-67. New federal funding for science and research labs-68. New funds for school construction-69. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending-70. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices-71. . Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals.
72. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan-73. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions-74. Provided tax credit to workers thus cutting taxes for 95% of America's working families.-75. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic-76. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
77. Helped reverse a downward spiral of the stock market. On January 19, 2009, the last day of President Bush's presidency, the Dow closed at 8,218.22. In February 2010, the Dow closed at 10,309.24-78. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel-79. Restarted the nuclear non-proliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols-80. Provided attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles.
81. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters-82. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy-83. Unveiled a program on Earth Day 2009 to develop the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents. These regulations will enable, for the first time ever, the nation to tap into our ocean’s vast sustainable resources to generate clean energy in an environmentally sound and safe manner.
84. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program-85. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards-86. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced-87. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job-88. The FDA is now regulating tobacco-89. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date.-90. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
91. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying-92. The “secret detention” facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed-93. US financial and banking rescue plan-94. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast-95. Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system.-96. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office-97. Improved relations with Iran-98. Improved U.S. policy on climate change
99. Set timetable for exiting Iraq (already started removing troops)-100. Improved relations with Russia-101. Improved relations with the Islamic World-102. Made progress towards greater cooperation on limiting nuclear proliferation-103. Economic stimulus plan has created jobs. (Unemployment rate decreasing)-104. Drastically slowed down the recession-105. Saved Wall Street-106. Passed the Lilly Ledbetter Act (equal work for equal pay) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilly_Ledbetter_Fair_Pay_Act_of_2009-107. HEALTHCARE REFORM-108. Ordered the military operation that killed Osama Bin Laden-THIS LIST IS NOT DONE / UPDATED. IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
whew.. now Heather, what did Reagan, Bush1 and Bush2 do?
The things that Obama has done so far are: riot agains wall-street (Wall-street Spring) and he can not stop it, jobless rate is still lingering 9.1%...and his polling number is down the tube. More importantly, instead of be creative in creating jobs, Obama is busy campaigning....LOL
Go back and change your brand of koolade. Your obviously choosing the brand that democratic brain washers want you to drink.
What world are you living on?? He put this country deeper in debt! He paid tax payer dollers to Wall street in bailouts (which ended up in the bank accounts of the people who created the problems in the first place) as well as UNION CONTROLLED automobile companies, he threw government regulations in our face with Obamacare which by the way DID NOT LOWER THE COST OF HEALTH CARE BUT RAISED IT and has yet to come up with any jobs bill that will NOT raise our national debt! Bo-rack "Spend, Spend Spend" Obama has now achived front runner status as the WORST president in America's history! He wasn't qualified to get the job but thanks to ACORN and the sheer ignorance on the part of the mis-informed or ignorant youth (i.e. illiterate 18 to 30 year old book learned unemployed miscreants who have for the last few years been living off of government grants and Mommy & Daddy's credit card and actually believed him when he said he would give THEM more stimulus money) and the internet, the "messiah" was elected! Lived up to the Peace Award? How?? What war did he prevent? What people did he lead to salvation? What country did he save? Not ours that's for sure. Wake up from your dream state and see reality.
Did anyone notice he quietly supplied Israel with bunker-busting bombs last month? How about the war he authorized in Libya? The failure to close Guantanamo? Are these actions worthy of a Peace Prize?
NO, and he has shown us how meaningless it is now since he got it
Agreed.
You are absolutely correct with common sense. THANK YOU!!!!
Obama didn't deserve the peace prize. What has he done for or contributed to this world. What a waste, when it could have gone to someone who really deserved it. He is a waste no matter which way you look at it and no America is seeing how idiotic they were to vote for a black man because he was a black man. That is just as bad and not voting for a black man because he is black. Both come from ignorance.
THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH. I would love to be your friend.
Lots of people have been fooled by Obama Charming personality. Now, they have waken up by checking into hotel reality with no jobs at all....no job, no money...and no peace...and taking it to the street. Millions of people have no Peace, Joy, and Prosper. What good is Nobel Prize if millions of people are out of work?
Ugh. Please, enough about women being left out. Get off the cross, someone else needs the wood! Seriously, if women had stayed home and cared for their familes instead of shoving themselves down everyones throat to be "equal," we'd have a healthier society today. Just because women whine louder doesn't make them better, smarter, stronger or wiser.
AMEN. Women have one of the most important rolls. Raise the Family, if they fail, society crumbles.
@eli don't say that to a woman. Just because they have embryos, a womb, and produce milk THEY do not want to raise children anymore. Didn't you get the memo. Uh-uh! This is modern times dummy. Children are supposed to raise themselves in front of televisions and computers like in nature. Women are far, far too busy making money for all those bright shiny objects they see on the tele that they just HAVE to have in order to feel 'equal'. Get with the program. It's much better for women to feel 'equal' to men than it is for children to be raised properly as they have for hundreds of thousands of years. If men don't have to raise the kids, then neither do the women...so there!
Agree. I stayed home with the kids, homeschooled them and I am proud of that fact. No other job could have been more rewarding.
Yes!
He got a Nobel Peace Prize for being the first black President. Groundbreaking.
Heyy CNN, there should be a third option there ...... "didn't even deserve this prize"
Did you read the question ? No wonder you flunked in school.
OBAMA SHOULD NOT HAVE NEBEL PREACE PRIZE ! OBAMA HAS DONE NOTHING TO GET IT ! NO ONE WITH ANY " INTELLIGENCE " WOULD VOTE FOR OBAMA !
OBAMA SHOULD NOT HAVE NEBEL PREACE PRIZE ! OBAMA HAS DONE NOTHING TO GET IT !
The Nobel Prize has turned into a big joke. It is now as authentic as "Dancing with the Stars" in terms of prestige.
Agreed. After getting it for doing nothing, he's destroyed the US economy for years to come, broken promises, lies abounding, and we even have to ask this question? The guy's a joke.
Obama and PM of Israel are Hitler and the Nazis.
What an insane statement. Is this Hank Williams writing this?
I think he's completely deserving. He is a man of honor, dignity and courage. Since he has been in office, the governments of Libya, Egypt, and the Taliban have been dismantled. Talks with both the Israelis and the Palestinians have been opened
and not just a rubber stamp to either side. Equal pay for women, funding for stem cell research renewed, attempts to include all Americans in the American dream, the passage of health care reform, respect to all Countries, and on and on and on. If the Peace Prize is indicative of human rights, human dignity, and human compassion, then President Obama meets all those criteria. I am so proud to have him as our President and look forward to another four years under his leadership.
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!
That's my sentiment too. What a waste of time to even discuss this. There is no debate. He does not have the performance to back it up... and now, everyone looks at the Nobel peace prizes as a worthless award because they give it away to worthless people.... what a shame.
Obama uses military forces to resolve political problems. Alfred Nobel loathed destruction and the loss of lives, especially when his younger brother Emil and a few others died during an explosion in the family's factory in 1864.
It's ironic that he invented dynamite...
Alfred Nobel has invented Dynamite while Obama, the Potus has created Wall-Street Spring. If the economy and employment are good (acceptable level) there will be no protest or uprising against wall-street like we have seen it now.
Nobel spent his entire life inventing new weapons and profiting from their manufacture and sale. He had no problems with weapons, war, destruction, or making money from them.
The peace prize was in his will no doubt as homage to a girl or just so history wouldn't consider him a complete ***.
The military is a tool of foreign policy, not a maker of foreign policy.
Doesn't mean Nobama is better or worse than many of our recent makers of foreign idiocy.
Amar Bakshi, you are a proven idiot and a tool in Obama's rusty shed.
Absolutely yes! Can anybody say Osama Bin Laden?
The programs utilized in that operation which enabled the ability to do what the SEALs did were put in place by Bush. Obama did nothing but say "Yeah go ahead if he's there." It always makes me laugh how many civilians will proudly talk about Obama and the military when they themselves have no knowledge on the military and rarely served in uniform. Obama is a joke everyone of his policies have failed period, he's taken a bad situation and made it worse. If i told USAA that my way of getting out of debt was to keep spending I'd have been defaulted and bankrupt and chaptered. It's alright for a grand leader to do so though apperently.
GW Bush did NOT originate the Navy Seals. The Commander in Chief gets the credit, not the guy that let Bin Laden get away, and couldn't find him for 6 years while Bin Laden lounged in Pakistan.
Not the guy on whose presidential watch, we were attacked in the first place, on such a monumental scale. Bush was POTUS on 911. He gets credit for NOTHING.
Pfc. R. – thanks for your service. I served 20 years as a naval aviator and you're right on target. "P" doesn't get it. You weren't saying Bush created the Seals; you simply stated he put things in place for them to do what they did. These enablers will say anything, howver silly or crazy, to prop up a failed leader such as PBO.
No, Rob I do get it. Blame everything on Obama.
Apologize for GWB, the 911 POTUS whose incredible blunders caused so much loss of life. I pray for a POTUS to have more respect for our precious men and women in the armed forces than that, and not send them into harm's way foolishly. You want to "credit" GWBush for taking Bin Laden out. Fine. Then credit all our military and all our presidents throughout history. They deserve credit in the same way Bush does. Bush had 6 years to get Bin Laden, failed(one of his many failures), and ended up saying "I don't think about him (Bin Laden) much". This POTUS took care of bidness and
NAILED HIM! – And this POTUS did not require a phony "Mission Accomplished" banner, after the deed was done.
The "P" man keeps ranting in an obvious attempt to make the most noise, hoping it resonates. I give PBO credit for Bin Ladin while on his watch; however, it wasn't anything partiuclar he did. The govenment has been trying for a long time and it finally came to fruition; not because the Bush Administration sat around doing nothing. All of their efforts, both administrations, led to the result. Don't write the story to fit your blind faith in this president. 2012 will cure all this when PBO is shown the door.
P, you can't have it both ways.
9/11 happened mere months after Bush Jr. took office. The groundwork for all that day was under Clinton.
bin Laden tagged due to the work of the military & cia over the last 10 years. The groundwork for that day was under Bush.
Either the groundwork is at fault, so Clinton gets the blame for 9/11 and Jr the credit for bin Laden, or the current President is at fault so Jr. get the blame & credit for both.
Bill, you logic is flawed...if the Current POTUS gets credit/blame.....then Bush gets blame for 9/11 and Obama gets credit for Bin Laden. You see Bush was POTUS during 9/11 and Obama was POTUS when Bin Laden was killed.
If the previous POTUS gets credit/blame then Clinton would take blame for 9/11 and Bush would get credit for Bin Laden.
What Obama did that was to his credit alone was make the call to invade Pakistan to get OBL. We didn't have their permission for that raid, but we did it anyway. That's leadership.
PFC R., by your name states your still a boot with much to learn. President Bush DID start the war but DID NOT start the programs that caused the Navy SEALs to conduct their operation that killed OBL. Spec Ops is Spec Ops, they fall under the authority of USSOCOM and by extention whoever is the Combatant Commanders of the theatre of operations. In order to engage in an act that is considerably illegal in internantional law would come from the President. You talk about how you laugh at those who have not served and how they dont have experience in the military, I laugh at you, you boot, try 9 years with 4 IN Spec Ops as an Operator, and then talk of 'experience' your just a step above civilians when it comes to military experience.
And No President Obama doesnt deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, which by the way, HE even stated himself!
Im not all thrilled with President Obama's administration and policies, but atleast Im sane enough to see that compared to what we HAD before, and what we HAVE now, I will take the present administration
You weren't saying Bush created the Seals; you simply stated he put things in place for them to do what they did...
^ Yet you can't say what these "things" are? That's pathetic.
Here is what Bush actually did, and it is specific:
-> He was warned by the CIA two months prior to the Sept 11 2001 attacks but *DID NOTHING*.
-> He oversaw the Tora Bora operation in which he and his incompetent stooges LET BIN LADEN GO.
-> After his two humiliating defeats at the hands of AlQaeda – he *GAVE UP*, and claimed he was no longer interested in finding Bin Laden.
-> He diverted the country into war in Iraq – based on the false assertion (guilt trip) that it was somehow related to Sept. 11.
-> He caused the death of several thousand other Americans due to his failed war in Iraq.
^ Now, unlike you, I've pointed out what Bush *actually did.*
If anybody remembers 1986 and the Iran Contra Hearings, it was Senator Al Gore who laughed at Oliver North for being so scared of a single man (who was named Osama Bin Laden). It was Al Gore who said that Oliver North was "overreacting" when Oliver North recommended the Osama Bin Laden be hunted down and killed. So, with all this knowledge and 8 years in office prior to GWB, how did 9/11 become GWB's fault?
It was Clinton/Gore who dismantled the "personal" on the ground intelligence system and went to a electronics system to save money. GWB spent his presidency rebuilding this personal intelligence system. There are 6 billion people on this planet and you are trying to find 1 - who is smart enough not to use electronics. So again, why is not catching Bin Laden the fault of GWB?
Finally, after the bombing of the Cole, the bombing of the Riyadh barracks, the bombing of the US embassies in Africa - all by Osama Bin Laden, the best Clinton/Gore could do was to launch a few Tomahawks into Afghanistan. They knew Osama was a extreme threat to the US and yet they never hunted him prior to 9/11. So who is to blame again?
Study history before trying to refrence it!
Pfc. R. ok step awaaay from the pipe
Agreed PFC. Thanks. Our Pres. called the Seals hired killers a few years ago. Now, he is getting the credit. However, happens all the time even in corp. America.
JJ – Operators don't talk about it. Fraud.
Someone who spent time at Guantanamo eventually lead to the death of bin laden.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-05-02/world/bin.laden.raid.timeline_1_bin-raid-defense-official?_s=PM:WORLD
Notice that was FOUR YEARS AGO. GWB opened Guantanamo.
Further, I was with a REGULAR INFANTRY UNIT in '04 (it's always funny how everybody is an "operator" or "special ops" – every unemployed dude in my town for some reason is a "former Navy SEAL"), and after three weeks in country we found several thousand mortar rounds containing mustard gas. We cordoned off the area, some specialists came, and the next time we went back to that area, they were all gone.
Obama should be ashamed for taking the credit. It was the tools put in place before he got to DC. He was just as surprised as anyone else. The dead soldiers families should take the credit. NOT him. He's such a little boy lost in the big man's world.
Crediting Obama is like crediting Truman for the manhattan project that lead to the development of the bombs that won the war for us. Most of know he was briefed on the status of the project after FDR death.
Blaming President Obama for this is like blaming a Fire Chief for the fire some moron started!! moron = warmongering murders bush/cheney/rumsfeld
Absolutely No ! you wanna know why? Obama has created massive suffering for million of people of the US by creating unemployment 9.1% and not only that Obama also has created worries, troubles and therefore those guys have protested against Wall-Street. If the economy and employment are good, the so called Wall-Street Spring will not happen....Nobel Prize for Obama is a JOKE since Obama has not created Peace....where is peace and prosper when millions of people are out Work?
Kept troops in Iraq.
Increased number of troops in Afghanistan.
Kept Gitmo open for business.
Started a new war in Libya.
Sent troops into Pakistan without their knowledge or permission.
Yeah, he's a hell of a peacemonger. A regular dusky GW Bush.
@Earnan... Excuse me, where do you get your info?
Irag – Drawn down to almost nothing
Afghanistan – Timetable for withdrawal
Gitmo – Not closed, but reduced
Libya – supported popular uprising without risking 1 American life
Pakistan – yup, went there and got Bin Laden. Seems like fair trade to reduce war
Worldwide – completely changed world's view of America. We now can work with other countries to stop conflicts before they start. Previously, intervention was our only option
Too bad the lousy economy, much of which is in the Eurozone and out of our control is tainting people's image of Obama's great successes.
Lol that's funny MH.
Both Iraq and Afghanistan are adhering to draw down timetables established under Bush. GG noob.
Get your facts straight M.H.
As mentioned it was the Bush admistration that started the withdraw. Obama promised it in less than a year but infact increased troops till just not where his term is almost over and finally deciding to withdraw after Bin Laden gets killed. What if Bin Laden didn't get killed? Chances are there wouldn't be a withdraw, but infact a discussion to keep troops there longer because of Bin Laden's threat.
Luck got on Obama's side on the hit with Bin Laden. Pure and simple.
Iraq = Reduced US troops...increased mercenaries (ie Blackwater)
Afghanistan = See above
Gitmo= Still holding prisoners and enemies of the State last time I checked
Libya = How the hell do you fly missions with US planes and pilots and not risk US lives???
Pakistan = Completely violated the rights of a other nation
Here's the thing I completely agree with all the above its...we are winning Iraq, Afghanistan, we need a place for POW and enemies of the US, it was in our best interest to bomb intervene in Libya and hell yes we killed Osama.
But the question is, does Obama deserve the Peace Prize...ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!
M.H. – exactly! Everyday Obama must balance the security needs of the United States with his vision of peace. I'd say he is doing an excellent job.
Sure, changed the view of america as a warmonger. Peace is a matter of perspective. Peace in one's backyard by destroying others is not peace. It's called eradicating. American history is such. nearly eradicated the original Indian settlers. They were peasants who took up arms to protect their own settlements. They were in no way threatening americans.
He has completly changed the worlds view of America for the WORST...Now other countries think we are a joke. We are no longer strong and mighty. Geeezzzz Obama's Aunt is living off the State of Massachusetts simply because she can. Congress doesnt have to participate in "Obama Care". Why is that ? Oh yea, it must be beacuse it is so awesome. And it also states that the gov't can pick and choose who gets life saving treatment! Really ? Nobel Prize ????? I hope no one in your family needs life saving treatment after the age of 60- cause you wont get it.
Who was POTUS on 911, again? Oh yeah. GW Bush.
"Worldwide – completely changed world's view of America. We now can work with other countries to stop conflicts before they start. Previously, intervention was our only option" Really?
Have you travelled worldwide since he came into power? I went to college in London (visited Berlin, Greece, Ireland & Holland in the mid 1990s). Back then any reasonable person knew that not all American's were the same or had the same viewpoints & many didn’t agree with all of the government policies.
2011 – Went to London, France, Holland and the Czech Republic.... nothing has changed since the 1990's. If you're loud & obnoxious, people don't like you.... and still any reasonable person knew that not all American's were the same or had the same viewpoints.
Obama can say he's changing to world all he wants, but in London and in Holland he's a joke. The conversation in the pubs are that we put up a black president that was doomed to fail by his policies so that the next government could undermine
Given the Political Climate in America, I think Obama has made significant headway. He has altered the course of the thought process of the Average American about how we view International situations. The utter failure of the Bush/Cheney Policy added to this change in thinking too.
What are you talking about? He changed the thought process of the Average American? I think you're drinking a little too much of the special Obama kool-aid (feeling shivers up your leg too I guessing, or maybe a little like you're going to faint).
It's time for a little more education (through reading or schooling...what ever you can find) if someone can manipulate your mind so easily.
International situations? Sorry, I prefer domestic situations like why Obama polling numbers are down? why democrats are bailing out from him...and why there is Wall-Street Spring? when George was president there was no any spring nor spring out anywhere in arab world in wall-street, etc. Obama has not created Peace and Prosper as Millions of us are still out of work....where is Peace and Prosper when you dont have any job at all?....THINK ABOUT it.
Exactly. This guy for change changed nothing. He has followed EVERY Bush policy. This is nothing more then inefective Bush three term. He cant even control his own Democrats
Earnan, Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld have taken over 90,000 lives with their warmogering. American troops are in deep kimche' because of those three. President Obama cannot just pull the troops out after the destruction Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld caused by going over there in the first place. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld demolished infrastructure (hospitals, roads, schools) all for WMD's remember. I would not want my President to just arrogantly leave such devastation that was perpetrated by US.
Obama and his administration have taken tolls millions of people.....Millions are out of work and therefore no Peace and Prosper. The quality of life is going down the tube. Try comparing what George did and Obama has done. 90,000 people VS Millions of People.......so who's bad now?....THINK ABOUT it.
What is means is the Peace Prize means nothing anymore since he received it. Just like the Presidency.
US Presidency means nothing anymore? I guess you need to run then, Fred.
Or maybe move to another – better – country....
Man you people are such hatters, you let Bush get away with bringing the country to the brink, and this guy comes in, to try
to fix it and get America back on its feet again. All this hate coming from the right is not good for the country, you should look up the facts before you start hating, he has done a lot, and most of all he saved Wall Street, and the money has been
paid back, I guess you didn't know that, and he also saved a lot of jobs. If you people were not so hateful things could get done in this country. The Democrats and Republicans used to work together thats how the country got strong, and the rich in the past were glad to help, they knew what it took to build this country and make it great. Now all this hate and you won't admit the real reason for such hate, the people are waking up now, that more could have gotten done if the Republicans were not so mad about our president being Black!!!
I 100% agree with you Carlos! President Obama is one of the best presidents we've ever had & since elected he has done numerous changes i.e health care reform! Republicans/Teabaggers don't want to admit his accomplishments simply because he's half black. I for one travel around the world and since he's been elected, I see tremoundous amount of positive change on how the world views the U.S, thanks to Obama.
....most of the negative comments posted here are truly motivated out of pure hatred!
Well met, and well said Carlos =-]).
and this guy trying to fix it? what a joke...he can't even lead let alone fixing it. As a result, the unemployment hole is getting bigger and now 9.1% are out of work and "Peace and Prosper" are down the drain. How do you find Happiness, peace when you are out of work for so long?....moreover, instead of finding solution and creating jobs, Obama is praising the Wall-street spring?.....what a joke.
I just want to know if he ever figured out how many states are in the U.S.?
Correction to the comment above. What this means is the Peace Prize is more "valuable" since he received it. Just like the Presidency.
Let's quit propping up Obama. While legally elected, he wasn't experienced or prepared for the role. He lacks any sense of leadership and simply relies on articulate speeches as a surrogate. His sense of this country are in stark contrast to what America stands for. Let's call it what it really is – a huge miscalculation by the electorate. He's wrong for America on all fronts and the sooner he's history, American can heal.
Love it !
Rob, your troll haircut is popping out of your stupid, dinky little shell of a skull. You haven't the least idea what "America" stands for. On this side of the street, Obama stands for what America stands for. GO BACK TO BED.
Well said fully agree.
Well once again, another Obama enabler, LINDA, using name calling and spewing hateful discord. It makes my point that they cannot prevail in the arena of ideas. I pray you wake to the reality of the bad state of our dear country with PBO at the helm. If he were a CEO of company, he'd have been fired. If he were the CO of ship, he'd be relieved of command. Bottom line: feel good, socialist policies and no leadership = failure for our country.
You can only speak for yourself, Rob, as misguided as you are.
IMO this POTUS has done a great job of cleaning up the giant mess he found.
GOP has NO answers. NO candidates. NO real shot in 2012. We'll see what they've got in 2016.
If you'd rather have had McCain & PALIN running this country, well, thank God you only get one vote...
I agree and also want to add that Great Presidents are smart enough to know that they don't know everything, therefore, they surround themselves with intelligent cabinet members and take their advice. This sitting President neither surrounded himself with intelligent people nor admits that he doesn't know it all.
Agreed! Thank you Rob.
So Linda says Obama and America stands for "Go back to Bed"? Sounds like a formula for socialism (Let those that want pay for those that don't)
P, stop being so bigoted. Believe it or not, people can have a difference of opinions, and both opinions can be correct. The GOP & Tea Party DO have answers, just not answers you like.
Rob, unless you are in the top 5% being against President Obama is just self mutilation.
Bill, the Republican GOP Tea Bag Koch roaches has stated the state of this country is not their top PRIORITY! I believe them and therefore liken them to something stuck to the bottom of snake in the grass.
To achieve greater peace, soletimes there is a need to fight for the right to peace. These thinks do not happen by itself. When you let things take its own course, you end up Rwanda, Darfur, Ivory Coast, Zimbabwe. Why did people in these countries get massacred as the rest of the world sat on the sidelines and not intervene. As President Obama mentioned in his acceptance speech; it is sometimes essential to wage a war to get to the peace. He managed to get OBL and a whole slew of Al Queda folks. His policy approach to the middle east help Arab Spring achieve success. Past US Presidents would have likely stood with the dictators instead of the people. Yes; he can do more; but I think he has done enough to justify the peace prize he was awarded.
It's incredible that you know the "Arab Spring" is a beneficial thing to US interests. I think it will take a few years of hindsight to finally be able to lable the sweeping revolutions a success or failure...but something tells me that future U.S. Secretaries of State will be speaking out against beheading of adulterers and theives in Amman, Cairo, the West Bank, and Damascus once Sharia law in fully in effect.
Want Peace? Recognize Palestine's bid for a full state. A place in the world. American media, country is nothing more than a bunch of select jews pressing their hand.
Ya you're not like a bigot or anything. Look in the mirror pal.
Are we at peace now?
Domestically speaking, there is no Peace nor Prosper now the US....we are in deep hole created by Obama. 9.1% still out of work, solyndra getting scottsfree 535 Millions dollar and wall-street spring is getting out of control. Where is Peace and Prosper when you are out of work?.....no wonder his polling numbers are down...down....down....
Thanks, CNN for not showing the whole picture. "During three months’ time, he, for instance and that’s what’s the main reason why he got the prize, namely that he paved the way for new negotiations with the Russian Federation about nuclear arms."
Nominations closed 12 days after he took the oath of office. So, his actions with the Russian Federation had not happened.
No. He didn't deserve it to begin with.
In the spirit of blaming this POTUS for absolutely everything, let's blame him for the Nobel committee giving him an award. Makes perfect sense within the "Obama derangement syndrome".
Except he didn't blame Obama, he just said he didn't deserve the award. Wow, it's funny to see all of the Obama supporters with such persecution syndrome.
I keep hearing you blame Bush Jr. for 9/11 despite the fact that 95% of the planning and execution happened under Clinton. You're a mindless liberal hypocrite parroting whatever sound bytes your Gods give you.
Stop trolling and start thinking.
P, I bet you blame Bush for the economy aswell and not like you know Clinton and Reagan de-regulating the banks. Reading some of these super leftist comments make me laugh sometimes.
So clinton is also to blame for the economy? Thats funny because under him we had one of the only surplus' in U.S. history. Also, the attackes were planned under him?? That might be true but remember that report that landed on Bush's desk? This report was CIA intelligence that said their is a risk of a terrorist attack and it might have something to do with planes. This was 2 months before 9-11 and last time i checked Bush was in office already. He failed to act on this and history tells what happened because of it. Stop with saying its us telling lies because you know a republican president messed up. Yes, Obama messed up on some things. Given his situation though, with all the tax cuts BUSH approved and failing economy by him, I dont think either side could fix it in this political scene now and just how deep we are in it. It really does take time.
I decided on a financial plan. By playing McDonald's Monopoly, I hope to end the economic suffering.
Will that give me a Nobel Prize? I mean I thought of it myself. Did Obama? Sure wish so many blacks didn't just vote for him just cause he was black. Total BS and this award is stupid also. People worked years in their life to achieve and award and it was given to Obama for three months work. Gotta love this world.
No, he hasn't lived up to his Nobel Peace Prize; and that's just for starters.
I supported Mr. Obama and voted for him, but I never thought giving him the Nobel prize was he right thing to do. The panel used the prize to make a political statement rather than reward accomplishment; their actions cheapened the award forever. It's like giving Michael Moore the Palm d"or at Cannes – it was obviously not the best movie made, they just wanted to make a political statement too. These prizes are devalued now.
Obama is the greatest embarassment the US has ever experienced. Socialist and Communist attempting in every way to make the US a third world country like his home in Kenya.
How are his liberal socialist supporters going to respond when his hidden life becomes public one day.
Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Obama...birds of a feather.
Can you name a socialist third world country? The ones I can name off the top of my head are run by dictators and an wealthy elite class. Socialist countries tend to have more equality, a strong public participation and a love of democracy with an educated elite class; they may not be the richest countries but they have the highest average standard of living. Are you brainwashed or just plan simple?
Leeland, I admire your effort but the person you're responding to is just a tewl of the Tea Party and a useless troll that doesn't deserve a reply, doesn't even read the article, just looks for keywords and punches in some idiot "macro" he made to troll on every comment board between here and China.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World_Socialism
You should at least Google before assumping there is no Third World socialism...
Also, why isn't there a mass exodus to these countries if they have such a better standard of living? I'm happy with the standard here. Thank you very much.
Rochelle, I think you're happy with your ideal of what a conservative country should be. Fortunately there are still enough of us that aren't having that, and the thing is, this is just as much our country as it is yours. Good luck at the voting booth.
Johnny, you and your leftist pals can keep dreaming of the unicorns and rainbows this country will turn into if everything was run by the dems. In the meantime I gotta get back to work to support the illegals and leaches
Yes, he has lived up to it. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke, and Obama is a joke.
Sorry, but I disagree based on a technicality. It wasn't a full joke UNTIL he won it. Prior to his winning, it was just meaningless. Both are a joke now, but lawyers probably could get the verdict tossed on this technicality.
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Absolutely agreed
We're still fighting two wars and have bombed additional countries since he took office. You might want to look up the definition of the word "peace".
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
No, Obama has not lived up to what was hoped, but that doesn't mean he didn't try, and it doesn't mean many people could have done better. More importantly, he didn't ask for it; it was given to him. In my opinion, it was a stupid idea on the part of the Nobel committee. Giving an award as a forecast in order to encourage someone to act a certain way? It's almost manipulative.
The answer is yes! And this can be explained in two folds in terms of the president's leadership abroad and at home. For example, as far as the Iraqi wat is concerned, the president has honored a deadline to end the illegitimate Iraqi war and beginin the withdrawal of our troops from that conflict, giving the Iraqi people back their country and uniting our troops with their love ones once more. And in another year or so, we would have a complete withdrawal from Iraq.
Secondly, as far as the Afghan war is concerned, the president has boosted troop levels to speed up the process so that we can end this war that the GOP abandoned and prolonged to start their illegitimate Iraqi war. And more medals of honor have been awarded by this president than any other president since the Vietnam War, to our soldiers for their brave and heroic endeavors in battle in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
Third, president Obama has helped to make America and the world alot safer by taking the bold initiative of sending our Navy Seals to take out OBL and recently al Awlaki. And furthermore, he has helped to restore America's image as leader of the free world because when the unrest escalated in Libya, he didn't do like his predecessor and rush to war, but he campaigned to get the world community,ie the European and Arab League and NATO on board on the same consensus with the same objective to enforce UN resolution to protect civilians and save thousands of civilian lives in Libya.
Fourth, although the Egyptian crisis occured prior to the Libyan crisis, the president's position was clear and consistent from the start in which he expressed America's unwavering support for the citizens of Egypt who were calling for democratic change. And though former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak was defiant in meeting the protesters demands at the beginning, president Obama called upon him and put pressure on him to respect the protesters rights to demonstrate while working towards a speedy transition for democratic change.
Fifth, the president and the UN have worked together to bring free elections to Dafur where after a long history of brutal civil war, the condemned have gained their independence and are heading in the direction of peace and stability. And the list goes on and on as to what president Obama has done abroad to earn the Nobel Peace Prize.
And when it comes to what the president has done at home, the list is endless as he has campaigned from day one for working class America, the poor and the elderly and for our service men and women in uniform. And whether it is comprehensive healthcare or fighting for extension of unemployment benefits for unemployed and struggling Americans during our economic perils or passing of legislation to see that our troops and their families are taken care of or protecting medicaid and medicare and looking out for our seniors by fighting to avoid a government, president Obama has been there for the American people every step of the way.
Secondly, when it comes to the healthcare legislation and financial reform and the issue of taxing the rich, president Obama never said that the rich were evil and should be punished. What has always been his position from the start is that there comes a time when the American middle class and the poor must be given a fair share because they have always been at the bottom of the class struggles with corporate America. And in a time of economic perils, the last thing we want to do is to allow the rich to continue to get richer at the expense of exploiting the middle class and the poor.
Finally, president Obama has been the most scrutinized and disrespected president in US history not because of his administration's policies but clearly because of the color of his skin. But despite the derogatory and outrageous name calling and all the insults and the disrespect he has received from the right and the mainstream media for two and a half years, not once has president Obama responded with anger or responded by throwing back insults at his accusers. No, he has continued to handle his job in the most professional of manner with class and integrity.
So has president Obama lived up to the Nobel Peace Prize? You bet! Obama/Biden 2012.
Obviously another individual that is mesmorized by the illusion of PBO as some capable leader. You've spun the facts to make them sound laudable. Regrettably you're living in a fantasy world. Face the fact: PBO is not a leader; he is not the messiah. He has zero experience except learning on the job which he's done poorly. His policies are akin to socialism which has proven to simply not work. Bottom line: He's Un-American.
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and rob your wrong oboma is american
out of everything he said... THATS WAT U NOTICE???
Audrey, he's actually Hawaiian!!! LOL
You may actually challenge for the award of most clueless person on the Internet despite the fact that you write well and seem to be able to put together a logical thought.
what flavor kool-aid did you get?
he spent more in the last 10 years bailing broken companies that weren't going to accomplish anything anyway...
he has kept none of the main promises that WE, the people, voted him for...
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Joe...thanks for the lengthy response. Just like our President....a lot of words with NO results. So much for "Hope and Change" we can believe in!!!
I have never seen a president get such a 'pass' on EVERYTHING..... The peace prize was a joke – how can anyone now take this Nobel Prize Committee seriously after giving to Obama. The only thing this president wants is to be re-elected. And he is certainly working hard at it when he should be in his office WORKING....
Obama does not like BLACK people and MUSLIMS even thou he is Black and Muslim. He killed to many Arabs and Muslims.
Ron Pau is the only one promoting peace out of all the candidates. He is not going to follow the same old policies. Just look him up. You will be surprised.
You are correct. I hope he is our next president!!!!!!
Peace prize, let me see what has he done to create a more peacefull world. YEP – he made the decision that led to the death of the more wanted and destructive person of earth. YEA – he earned the prize.
Are you nuts!? That was a no-brainer. Anyone could have made that decision. That's silly critieria for the Nobel Peace Prize. When are you going to face facts and admit Obama is in over his head and quit trying to prop him up with spin and weak arguments such as you proffer?
Actually Bush made the way for the capture/death of Osama.
Tina, you are correct. Can I be your friend?
Tina, you are correct. Can I be your friend? Obama killed too many Arabs and Muslims in Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, Bahrain, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and even Saudi Arabia. As you know, Saudi Arabia does not allowed women to vote, own properties and THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT WOMEN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE. Obama please STOP SUPPORTING THESE DICTATORS.
The only thing obama is deserving of is execution because he's a lying piece of crap that has kept none of his pre-presidential promises, and I'm happy to say I didn't vote for him because I could tell he was a liar and a deceptive crook before hand. He has made no peace as he promised..we're still heavily fighting in Afghanistan..and there are countless other things he has not made good on.
WOW – I disagree with most of Obama's actions and ideology but you sir are pretty far off the deep end.
Yasser Arafat – Barak Obama, Alfred Nobel must be turning in his grave. What a shame that his legacy has lost all credibility.
Very good point Tina. Thanks for sane thinking.
Giving PBO the Noble Peace Prize for potential is right in line with views such as you can't celebrate excellence because it might make someone feel inferior. This kind of madness has to stop. Obama should have refused the award because even he knows he didn't deserve it. This was simply a veiled attempt to make him look good by his enablers – fellow socialists. Shame on the Committee that made this decision. But America has FINALLY woken up and is seeing Obama for what he is – an abject failure, incapable of serviing effectively. America needs to eradicate this malaise and continue to fulfill its destiney as the shining beacon on the hill for the rest of the world.
I think it should be taken in context that he received the prize before he had done anything at all good or bad. So the real question is whether he deserved it when he received it which.. as he hadn't done anything at all.. no. A definite no.
I'm sorry Mr. Jagland but you've just insulted every previous winner of the Nobel Peace Prize by saying that Obama has lived up to the award. It appeared to be a politically hopeful move when it was announced and now the idea that you'd defend it is just embarrassing.
to time.com started at #3, vice #1, which was President Obama. Checked it again & it was intentional – html-coded to go to #3, first.
It's disconcerting to see CNN's deception, for the sake of their political bias. This is a major reason why people are cynical today. CNN's latest manipulation is yet another justification for distrust, or rejection of, news media.
CNN truly is a media wing of the Democratic Party.
Propaganda, calling itself 'news,' is unethical.
Too bad this benefits Lawmakers, because there needs to be a law against 'Journalistic Quackery.' It's as much fraud as infomercial snake oil salesmen on at 4AM.
NO.
He is also complicit with the murders of ATF agents and civilians through his approving and funding of Operation Fast & Furious. He and Holder are going down on this one in spite of the media trying to bury the story.
0bama is a disgusting disgrace.
This country we call a great democracy was once segregated by race and skin color because the oppressors felt that people of color deserved to be in bondage and should continue being oppressed. But thankfully there were brave and courageous leaders in our country, brave enough to step forward and condemn these evils while campaigning to help end racial segregation and discrimination, clearing the path for us to be a great democracy.
And yes, these courageous Americans are are deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize but what I also know is that these heroic and courageous Americans that went before us would never ever approve of the type of bigotry and hatred that you rightwingers have been expressing towards our president for two and a half years. And you can hate president Obama as much as you want because that is your choice however he is your president too and just keep in mind that as the saying goes, "united we stand, divided we fall." And since this topic is about peace, I would just like to pray for you people.
Sir I am very sorry but I have to disagree with everyone of your biased comments. You and the rest of the morons play the race card whenever the messiah is in the wrong. I voted for Clinton twice, Gore and Kerry because they had a track record and I could see that they loved this country. You supported and continue to support a man who spent 20 years in an ultra racist church and when he was called on it said I never heard him say those things (REALLY REALLY ), was introduced to politics by a self proclaimed domestic terrorist and when he was asked said I don't know him well he just lives in my neighborhood, hid his birth certificate and spent over a million dollars fighting not to show it, voted present a majority of the time in the state and federal senates to avoid responsibility, hid and is still hiding his school information. I don't feel like wasting time with anymore of the very very obvious shortcomings of your MESSIAH.
As for the prize he did not then nor now nor will he ever deserve it and in no way shape or form has he lived up to what the prize is supposed to stand for.
As for your claim that he has made international dealing better all he did was travel around the globe and apologize for us Americans.
In closing for everyone with a brain:
IF YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA IN 2008 TO PROVE YOU WEREN'T A RACIST PLEASE PLEASE VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE IN 2012 TO PROVE YOU ARE NOT AN IDIOT. ANYBODY IN THE USA BUT OBAMA/BIDEN2012
This is exactly how I feel. I just hope the someone else is a Democrat that steps forward (Hillary 2012).
@Bullet319-Now I will admit to both by degree of bias (as I have children who are both partly Black) and buyer's remorse from re-electing Bush Jr. (as I personally chose both the lesser of two evils & gave the man a chance to clean up the mess he started-which he failed miserably in my opinion) before the following comments. I personally voted for Obama because of one simple point: I am tired of the failed policies and ideas that came from the Republican Party, which in my mind has indeed laid the groundwork that destroyed this once great country of our's and was/is still willing to give the Dems a chance. Now as far as the original argument of this article: No, he should not have been selected or even accepted the Nobel Peace Prize so soon after his election, in fact he should have politely refused it for another who was deserving of that. As to whether he is deserving of it now, I would argue yes. He has employed (smartly) the forces and resources necessary to quell the fighting in the Middle East with little to no risks with more of our servicemen. And under his leadership (again with those same military resources) killed the top men of Al-Quadi (incldg. Osama Bin Laden), ensuring a degree of peace from terrorism.
This is an easy NO. He was not deserving in the first place. What has he ever really done?????
The Nobel Peace Prize was relegated to a worthless piece of trash when it was awarded to Obama – who had done nothing to earn it, particularly as he had barely even been in office. They tarnished this award forever, and future recipients will be the ones to suffer.
In a word, no.
He's just another Wall street shill.
obama is the biggest failure in u.s. presidential history
AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN.
FOR ALL OF YOU WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA IN 2008 TO PROVE YOU WEREN'T A RACIST , PLEASE PLEASE VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE IN 2012 TO PROVE YOU AREN'T AN IDIOT.
ANYBODY IN THE COUNTRY BUT OBAMA/BIDEN IN 2012
I just wonder what your responses would have been if president Obama was white. I'm sure your responses would all be positive like when Dick Cheyney said he had no regrets at all, none of you bothered to comment at all because he and GWB running this country into the ground and murdering thousands of our citizens in Afghanistan and Iraq didn't matter to you people. And the more these worthless rightwing politicians divide and destroy this country, you people still vote for them because of your prejudices. Just take a good look in the mirror next time you decide to scrutinize the president. Just look at yourself and ask what are you doing to make your community or your world a better place.
I don't care if he is black white green red or yellow he is a complete and total failure and that sucks in any color. I am very much behind Mr. Cain and if I am not mistaken he is very tanned.
As for Bush and Cheney they were not perfect and made a lot of errors the major difference is they didn't blame it on someone else as your messiah is to this day anything that is not good he blames Bush. Keep drinking the Kool-aid and watching the communist news network and it will be alright.
Joe, if Obama were white, my critique would be no different. ANY president who touted this president's policies and beliefs would receive the same criticism from me. Much to the chagrin of Obama supporters, its simply not about race, although they'd like it to be. For me, its saving America and standing for something.
This has nothing to do about color.... it's about the economy! Who cares what color he is as long as there are jobs for everyone.
Get real.... use the race card all you want – but your on the wrong track.
No. The only intended result was to satisfy the desire of a small number of Norwegian academics to poke George W. Bush in the eye. They got what they wanted, and, as a result, they made the prize meaningless. Did I ever like Bush? No. But I wouldn't destroy the integrity of a formerly respected international award just to vent my dislike.
exactly right ! they had to stick it to W! that all it was. A down payment of a an artificially inflated investment
It's comical, of course he has not,. But that's OK. The Nobel Committee is pretty silly and irelevant anyway. Foreign Policy had an interesting article about the future of way last month. The author argued that if you look at the numbe of people directly involved in conflict – aside for a few hot spots like Iraq and Afg – and the number of poeple directly affected by war, there are fewer people involved in war than at any point in the 20th century and the trendline is downward. None of it has anything to do with the Nobel Peace Prize. The problem though is people seem to assume that major war between nationa states is just out of question in future and there is a lot of hidden instability in one major power with a lot of rice. We might need to rethink that sometime in the next 30 years.
I think this whole "poll" is a silly question. Its not as if he asked to be awarded the prize. What should he have done? Turned the prize down? Or maybe he should have disbanded all branches of the nation's military under the pressure of living up to such a prize? Yeah...
I think the awarding was symbolic of a lot of things at that time in the world. Especially the world view point on the US.
Is anyone who has taken part in arguing about this a Nobel laureate themselves? Chill.
He should have turned it down . .
Yes he should have said to the committee I am totally undeserving of this award and as such have to graciously decline. The problem is as his two autobiographies before he was 35 proved his ego is massive.
YES, he should have turned it down if he felt he was undeserving of it.
Nobel Prize should recognize actual results, not for effort, intentions or future potential. I beleve this was an extremely cynical effort by the prize committee to attempt to influence U.S. foreign policy.
It is supposed to recognize actual results, and nominations closed when he had been in office 11 or 12 DAYS.
Jeff
Perhaps I can help you with your phrase... President Obama is the most successful president in US history. And I'm not saying that because I voted for him but because he has had to deal with more deliberate roadblocks and policy delaying tactics by the GOP and their Tea Party than that dealth with by any previous administration in US history. And not to mention the deliberate lies and propaganda hitting the air waves by the mainstream media ( Particularly Republican owned and operated CNN, FOX, MSNBC and the likes of The Wall Street Journal), all helping to score political points for the rightwingteabags regarding the policies and leadership of the Obama administration.
And did I mention that this president has also inherited two unfinished and costly wars and the worst economic crisis in America since the Great Depression and an unemployment epidemic spreading across American like the bubonic plague? And let's face it, more has been accomplished by this administration in two and a half years than that accomplished by any previous administrations in US history. Obama best US president ever? You bet! OBAMA/BIDEN 2012.
You drone on like the teacher in a Peanuts cartoon – Wha wha wha wha, wha wha wah . . . Do things that have no substance and are bad for this country are not the tenets of success. You're invested in this president and simply couch the argument to suit you as you can't admit he's an abject failure. It's okay to admit you're wrong. It's not okay support a failing president despite the painful results. If this is the type of country you want, take if somewhere else. This isn't America; it's soft tyranny.
Ah another "Blame Bush". So Bush spent billions to go after Ghadafi? Spent Billions to bail out multi-billion companies? Didn't know a Pres. carries 4 years of higher unemployment rates because of his predecessor
Please move you and all of your relatives to China or North Korea anywhere but here if you believe this crap you are writing.
I am willing to bet you are a big Kanye west fan aren't you.
Obama should be the CEO of all of the networks you mention with the exception of FOX because they don't tell the truth about anything he does unless it is good for him..
"President Obama is the most successful president in US history."
By what standard? Single payer health care? Closing Guantanimo? Out of Afghanistan? You have a funny measuring stick comparing that to Lincoln, Washington, Clinton, Kennedy, and Roosevelt.
" but because he has had to deal with more deliberate roadblocks and policy delaying tactics by the GOP and their Tea Party than that dealth with by any previous administration in US history."
You have some sources besides your favorite political commentary?
"Particularly Republican owned and operated CNN, FOX, MSNBC and the likes of The Wall Street Journal"
Uhm, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
You must be the only person on the entire &&*&& planet to call CNN, MSNBC, and WSJ "Republican owned". Dude, you just lost all credibility.
"And did I mention that this president has also inherited two unfinished and costly wars"
You forget his history as a Senator voting to fund those wars. Too bad he didn't vote against them. Oh, did he stop them when he became President? No?
" and the worst economic crisis in America since the Great Depression and an unemployment epidemic spreading across American like the bubonic plague?"
Blame Bush.
"And let's face it, more has been accomplished by this administration in two and a half years than that accomplished by any previous administrations in US history."
Do your knees hurt yet? You've been down there a LOOONG time. Your mouth must be dry.
Poor...poor Joe. SO lonely.......SO out of touch. Wait a minute ARE YOU JOE BIDEN? If so, all of our questions about you have been answered.
Excuse me – but didn't he have control of both congress and senate for a few years!
He didn't deserve and he still does not . Starts a war with Lybia, two secret wars tn Yemen and Pakistan, we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan, Guantanamo still open. And they called Bush a warmonger? That is rich
Silly, silly, me. I was under the misguided perception you were awarded the Nobel prize for work and efforts you had accomplished, not what you said you were going to do in the future! The only way nobama could possibly earn a Nobel Peace prize is if he saved the world from alien invasion in his 1st 3 months of office. He didn't.
You are supposed to get the prize based on past worthiness, and the 2-3 months? NOPE it was 11 or 12 DAYS after his elections that nominations closed on the prize. Yep, less than 2 weeks to win something that takes many winners a LIFETIME to deserve.
Gave Corporations BIllions in bonuses (which we call bailouts these days). Economy is steadily getting worse. Cannot come out to address the "Occupy Wall Street" protests. Went after Ghadfi's because of oil (pretty obvious when thousands more are killed in the Syria uprising and he says nothing). Is scared to tax Corps and millionaires more, despite Millionaires asking to be taxed! Allows CEO's to make more then the Country. Send aid to Countries before saving his own. Health Care reform (has he seen the waiting list ar ER's in Canada for patients due to Universal Care?)On to the Positive. He killed Bin Laden. So I'd say right now he is 1-100. Does he deserve this award..........NO!
Rob
You've convinced me! I'm having second thoughts about Obama. Obama/Biden 2012.
I hear u loud n clear. You hit the nail on the head. Mark my words, President Obama will prevail (In Jesus name). I decree & declare that no weapon formed against him will prosper and every evil word will be condemned. Don't worry, God is definitely in control. In the meantime just pray for these people, they don't realize what they say and send out in the lives of others WILL come back on them. PEACE!
GOD hate gays. obama supports It. God is not a man that should lie ....obama is a DAM LIAR and a HYPOCRITE....with their mouth they honor me but their heart is far from me
I was an Obama supporter, but he was given this prize for his ability to bring all sides together in peace.
He's failed to do this in the Middle East, failed to do this in Afghanistan, and failed to do this in the United States.
He should return the award AND the cash prize.
So Linda, everyone that disagrees with Obama (or you) is a "tewl" of the tea party? Views like that must not make you very popular in the real world, but I bet you are amazingly popular at the crazy people's home. What kind of jello are they serving today?
President Obama should not have gotten the Nobel Prize in the first place, so the question is moot.
Is the author serious? Obomba has led to the deaths of thousands in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Mexico, and even here in the US.
Gosh...and just when I thought I agreed with everyone...you gave one of the best reasons he should be award...king killer of terrorists
No he has not but then he did not ask for it. It was crazy giving it to him. Obama once said before the election he would not rule out going into Pakistan! Obama acts a heck of allot like a Republican hawk.
democrat in name, republican by action....he's chameleon....a wolf in sheep's clothing....
Carmel
I agree! And yes, we'll keep praying for our president. God bless!
Obama hasn't proved to be a shining example, per se, but at the same time the decisions he's faced are so monumental that it would be impossible for anybody in his position to be a shining example. Jagland is right that his building bridges with the Russians is a big deal that too many have overlooked. And, though you can say what you want about the Bush family building bridges with Saudi Arabia, Obama has taken many steps to reach out to a number of countries and show restraint when other presidents would have gotten directly involved.
Obama's term so far has really been about cleaning up Cheney's ... errr, sorry ... Bush's mess and tried to bring the country back to the standards it had back in the 1990s.
HA, he is trying to justifying the peace prize to Obama by citing actions that were already started by previous presidents. I don't remember a US President receiving the prize for the 1968 nuclear non-proliferation treaty, or any subsequent ACTIONS taken to reduce the weapons.
Oh, but Obama started TALKING about it. Great. He talks, meanwhile people die. Great choice for the prize. Speaking of which, have you honored Ghandi yet? No?
You have no credibility you dumb monkies.
Agree!
wins the nobel peace prize and assasinates his own citizen. that seems consistant right?
Obama should have his Noble peace prize revoked for Killing Osama bin laden And american citizens overseas without fair trials.
Very well put, Kevin. Thank you.
totally agree.
Don't be silly. Everyone knows that laws are for everyone else to follow, not americans. Only americans are allowed to kidnap foreign citizens and imprison them on an island fortress without trial. Only americans are allowed to extra-judicially murder citizens around the globe, even their own citizens. Only the americans are allowed to attack a sovereign country, destroy it's infrastructure and kill thousands of people while calling it a 'kinetic military action' and not a 'war'. Only the americans are allowed to build and stockpile the worlds most devastating weapons of mass destruction.
If any other country were to do any of the above there would be war. The world is growing sick of Uncle Sam and the hypocritical rot that pervades the usa. The usa kills more civilians as 'collateral damage' with their foreign policy actions than all of the 'dictators' and 'terrorists' put together. Sick joke of a world we live in when the bloodiest hands get awarded peace prizes.
I voted for President Obama and I feel that even nominating him, let alone, awarding him the Nobel Prize, was ABSURD. What had the man done? It isn't a question of whether he did good or not; even if he did to good, there was nothing at that point to warrant even a nomination for the Nobel Prize. It just made no sense and I would guess that the President himself laments the whole thing for the same reasons. Mine isn't a judgement on the man; it's a critique of the wisdom of those who choose the nominees for and winners of the Nobel Prize, which makes moot the whole point of whether or not he "lived up to it", since it really shouldn't have been awarded to him in the first place.
This is a shame for all of the Nobel Peace Prize winners out there because the fact that someone like Obama won one (and the fact that they're still backing up their choice) tarnishes the prize. Giving him the prize would have been like giving it to Bush.
He deserved it as much as Al Gore did! NOT!!!!! HA HA HA HA HA! !
So all the hate and lies you right wingers spreas across America each and everyday, how do you help your kid unravel the confusion when all he or she hears at home is that black people are bad, dirty, evil and criminals and so on and then when your kid goes to school, they discover that the kid they adore and like the most is the quiet black kid in the classroom? The one who they'd rather choose to be their best friend? How do you explain to your kid that you were lying to them all along about your stereotypes against minority kids in America?
And what are you going to do when the next black familiy moves into your neighbor or the next hispanic or Asian family? Where are you going to move to? Perhaps Alsaka? Well, guess what? Do you know who built the trans-continental railway in Alaska? That's right! African American slaves build the trans-continentalrailway in Alaska back in the late 1800's. Let's face it, we are a multi-racial country, rich in diversity and ehtnicity and just remember that our diversity is our strength and our strenght are in numbers. And just remember that if we as Americans cannot find common ground to live together and respect each other and if we continue to keep taking for granted the parts that make us whole as a nation, then we may wake up one day and discover that we are a nation in revolt, divided by our prejudices, bigotry and hate. Just keep that in mind you rightwingteabaggers.
Here's the thing, Joe... you're living the lie. Everything you listed about those "evil right wingers", was told to you by the Left. You're chasing windmills, Joe... you don't even know who your adversary IS.
Ah the race card cometh . . . give it a rest Joe.
I like dittoheads telling you you don't live in real world! of course they think they live in a 1950's sitcom
HEY...................................IT IS NOT LIKE THE GUY ASKED FOR THE PRIZE...
Nah – he just signed the application and submitted it! You knucklehead! Oh yeah – and he showed up and took the cash!
@LaRoy
OOOOHHHHHHH.........JESUS CHRIST.
there is NO application for the Nobel prize. You just get nominated by the committee and there is no cash prize either.
PLEASE......get educated or at least do some RESEARCH before commenting.
OOOOHHHHHHH.........JESUS CHRIST.
there is NO application for the Nobel prize.
^ LOL. Again. Some of these folks only watch fox-news and the country-music awards, so they don't understand the whole nobel-prize thing.
No cash prize? I think someone else needs to do a little research. http://www.thelocal. de/national/20111007- 38069.html
Totally bogus! How many people are honestly going to answer the question "Where you completely off your rocker when you made this guys a Nobel Peace PRize Recipient?"?
James, my questions exactly! I guess they were off their rockers! Vote this guy OUT in 2012.
Obama did the impossible: He makes George Bush look like a competent intelligent president!
He makes George Bush look like a competent intelligent president!
^ To whom?
He and his apologists merely seem like sore losers.
Obama's Nobel prize merely rubs salt in your wounds.
Isn't that the truth?
The problem is that we are so divided depending on our party affiliation, so much that we forget to analyze or question the root causes of the issues related to wars. Why do the terrorists attack us? Why don't they attack other western countries such as France, Germany. Canada, to the extent they attack us or as often. These countries have the same lifestyle and values that we have.
Let's stop fighting over whether Bush was a batter president or Obama was and think as a person, not as a Republican or Democrat.
re: Obama should be ashamed for taking the credit.
^ Why, he literally is responsible for it. (sending the Seals into Pakistan to get Bin Laden)
So history gives him credit whether he "accepts" or not.
re: It was the tools put in place before he got to DC.
^ LOL. Again, this is a laughable excuse for Bush's failure and Obama's success.
Tools don't do anything.
It isn't the tool, it's the person who uses them.
Don't you know that?
*poot*
Speaking of Russians, did anybody else think the story about Putin's fake jugs was about breast implants?
He thinks "yes," but the voters are 80% no. And let's not forget that at the time of the award it's about what he HAD done, not what he might do in the future, so the author's argument is specious – saying that he's lived up to it. Pay me $1,500,000 now and see if I live up to it in the future, with no guarantees. Who wouldn't like a deal like that?
I bet president Obama has more blood on his hands than all of the other Nobel winners combined!
The prizes in Cereal boxes are getting pretty good now!
Moot point; get back to work!
An award he got literally right after he took office before doing anything as the president. Prior to becoming president, he did nothing (he rarely even voted while in the senate) that would have deserved it. Obama being award the Nobel prize is a joke and cheapens it. Unless of course they are awarding it now on a speculative basis in the hope that the recipient will actually do something.
Obama, and I voted for him, getting the peace is an insult to everyone who's ever stood up for peace. Never mind not ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, he's done nothing to stop extrajudicial killings of suspected terrorists with CIA drone strikes, killing hundreds of civilians, mainly women and children. Then throw in Lybia, where in defending civilians at all costs, we've killed thousands of civilians in airstrikes. Where is the peace in all this?
Starting a war in libya without a congress vote and dropping bombs in Yemen does that sound very peacefully? you CNN sure starting a war in libya was all really for peace? or oil huh?
During Bush administration time the water boarding and Guantanamo Prison were contested and fought by majority both in USA and World that's including Obama! Now, during Obama administration the suspects will be killed without trail by Air Fighter without a pilot. So, the most contradicted ethics of a person who suppose to be a lawyer, politician, and Nobel Peace winner? I can't get it!
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When they gave the Nobel Peace prize out to Obama I was flabbergasted. He was in office for a whole 9 months!? What in the world did he do to deserve that?
The women who we awarded the peace prize have been fighting for peace longer than he was a Senator and president combined!
This goes to show you how politically motived they were in giving him such a prestigious prize to not even a 1 term President.
But then they gave Yassar Arafat a Nobel peace prize for being a Terrorist or was it secure his compliance to stop attacking Israel?
This goes to show you how politicaly motived they were in giving him such a prestigeous prize to not even a 1 term President.
9 months? No, Nominations closed 11 or 12 DAYS after he had been sworn in. Yep, less than 2 weeks.
The Nobel Peace Price for tearing America apart through class warfare and inciting riots?
We're kidding right?
Ohh please diitohead, pull the snout outta rush backside. Or are you one of palins real americans ...
Let's see...
- Nuclear weapons ban. Check
- Stop a mass murdering dictator from cleansing a whole contry. Check
- Dismantle a terrorist organization. Check
- Demand Palestinian statehood. Check
- Oversee stable transitions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Check
Do I need to say more?
Uh, considering he actually did none of those things yeah, you do need to say more.
Even if he supposedly did those things, they came far after he was awarded the Prize. Face it, he didn't deserve it then and he doesn't deserve it now.
Yes. Of course. Problem is he did all of those things by continuing Bush's war policies. Let's check out your list:
-Nuclear weapons? He deserves the price for continuing negotiations that have been ongoing since we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
- Stop a mass murdering dictator from cleansing a whole contry. Sure, I'll give you this one just because you spelled COUNTRY wrong. But again, by continuing Bush's policies.
- Dismantle a terrorist organization. See the last 2.
- Demand Palestinian statehood. So he earned a prize for alienating one of our most loyal allies and, if Palestinian statehood actually occurred, would guarantee another war in the Middle East?
- Oversee stable transitions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Please see 1-3.
The only change we've seen from this administration is the name of the president.
Agreed
Let's see ... he gets the Nobel Peace Prize because he's not president Bush. He continues two wars he inherited, and starts two more conflicts, and has now had an American citizen assassinated without trial. Who said irony was dead?
I agree with you audrey, president Obama he did a great job
The Nobel prize has lost all credibility in my eyes.
What a joke. By giving Obama this award, they've made a sham of the Nobel Peace Prize
What's the difference between Obama, Bachman, Romney, and the falling U.S. dollar?
...the dollar was once worth something....
Obama is an Idiot and has proved it many times over. He needs to get rid of his staff and everyone he has appointed and start over. Can he do any worse???
Google other Nobel Peace Prize winners, and comment again. Some of the choices are dubious (Al Gore), but a lot of them put some real skin into it: Desmond Tutu, Nelson Mandela (27 years in prison), Aung San Suu Kyi (house arrest for how long?), Elie Weisel (tireless avenger/seeker of justice for 6 million deaths), the Dalia Lama...
What did Obama do to deserve it, either then or now? If he'd untangled the Israel-Palestine problem or something similar, I'd be writing to the Nobel committee myself, but he hasn't done anything close.
the only thing that live up about obama was finally killing bin Laden and al-awlaki. at this rate Al Qaeda will cease to exist as a influential force in the middle east. Al- Shabaab, on the other hand...
Awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Barack Obama is the most ludicrous thing I ever heard of. In fact, Barack Obama has far more blood on his hands than all the members of the Chicago Mob put together both past and present! I'd much rather see that prize go to someone like Al Capone. At least, Capone had far less people killed than Obama did!!!
Though I support Obama, the answer is still no. America still has soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan; NATO arbitrarily declared war on Libya and has been bombing cities; Syria, which is in a legitimate struggle, has been widely ignored by the international community; and the U.S. is fighting Palestinian statehood despite supporting liberty (I can understand this, and even agree with it somewhat, but the fact remains its rather hypocritical). And Obama hasn't been doing much to mediate conflicts anywhere else in the world either....
Are you serious? No!
The award is meaningless since they have awarded it to such loosers ......
amar bakshi and fareed zakaria are obamas henchmen ....loosers all ..
I doubt they hand out any more preemptive Nobel Peace Prizes.
It is beyond me how a President can still deserve the Nobel Peace Prize when they reign terror on a whole part of the word with predator drones. Also, I think being a hypocrite on foreign policy to the scale that Obama has been is very unbecoming of a Nobel Peace Prize recipient. Being "willing to discuss" something like a nuclear shield for Europe pales in comparison to his other deeds that don't promote peace.
He was nominated before he even became president...before he ACTUALLY DID ANYTHING. The Nobel Peace Prize has become a farce.
The Nobel Peace Prize has been devalued by this decision, and I don't think it can recover its reputation from the tarnish it caused for a long time. Why did he earn it exactly? For being anyone who replaces Bush? Or for being President while black? Not sure which rationale makes the award more of a joke.
Rather stupid question but the easy answer is NO>
The answer to this one is a loud echoing "NO". There are many points that can be argued regarding the Obama administrations record but whether he earned his Nobel Prize for his (cough) future works I would not think is one of them. If the Obama cheerleaders can shake their pom pom and dance for this, they would support Obama no matter what he does or what his record finally becomes.
I keep hoping someone else in the Democratic Party steps forward for 2012. I was pro Billary in 2008 and I am pro Billary today. We voted for an idea in 2008. In my opinion the social organizer experiment is seriously over. If judged on the content of his character and his record he ranks up there with the 4 worst presidents America has ever had in my opinion.
Billary? What a joke. You a fossil that needs depends changed
Maybe they could give Bill Pullman a Nobel Peace Prize for his speech in the movie Independence Day as the president of the U.S. just before the final battle! That was a marvelous speech!
How many other Nobel "winners" have used assisination to get what they want? How many have ordered hits on their citizens?
All I know is this, when I came to this country 25 years ago I had no negative feelings about anyone. When I discovered Farrakhan I questioned my fealings for Blacks and started to think something is not right. When I saw the reaction to the verdict of O.J Simpson I started to develop hatred towards blacks but I fought back and told myself not to, when Obama won I not only hated Blacks but hate Whites for being so stupid and self hating. When I discovered Hermain Cain my soul was restored back 20 years.
yeah..that's right....inauguerated in January, recommended (by what 'brain stem' I'm not certain) for Peace Prize in February...escalates war on Afghanistan by 60%. increasing troops in excess of 30,000 to fight that losing quagmire, receives peace prize in december...hmmm..nobel comittee should have learned from Kissinger fiasco, that NO PROFESSIONAL AMERICAN POLITICIAN IS WORTHY OF A PEACE PRIZE OF ANY KIND...what needs to explained by the comittee is how a politician who is commander in chief of an army engaging in two invasion/occupations of two sovereign country's for over 10 years is deserving of a peace prize of ANY kind...
No. He did not.
Perhaps the prize was given because he broke a barrier for those in this country and around the world who thought it would never come down for them. His election marked a change in the very fabric of the greatest democracy known in history. No more are we still shredded by our ignorance, suspension, and hate. Now, indeed, I feel that Americans have returned to electoral high ground by voting for the quality of the candidate not the party or race.
I know that I will finally feel like a completely fulfilled citizen of my beloved country when a woman is elected.
It is not so easy to understand and appreciate events of great historical import when they are taking place.
Yea, vote for Hillary....SHE will make a difference! What a joke.
Actually, Madrep, I am a white Arkansan raised twenty miles south of Little Rock's Central High School. Your sneering, irrational ,disdain for all who are trying to overcome our problems in this country by calm reasoning does not help anyone. Some people must lash out no matter what. I am sorry for your anger. It seems very debilitating for you. At this point, a little strong compassionate cooperation might just the prize our country needs.
Hillary is not the answer. Bill Clinton's house for every american policy has ruined our economy. Obama has combined his brand of socialism with a good portion of Clinton's administration, yet he hasn't had the luxury of a booming IT expansion. this has equated to massive failure and huge debt. Add to that Obama's idea of attempting to move Americans off legacy fossil fuels without first providing adequate alternatives just shows the tremendous downside a liberal president can have without the benefits of a booming economy.
since Obama cannot run on his record he's reduced to stirring up class warfare with the hopes he doesn't go down in history worse than jimmy carter. consider Obama the sports coach unable to coach to his team, instead his ego makes him try to transform his team into what he wants, which will never happen outside of a fairy tale.
Chris, rather it was righties taking off all the regulations on clintons programns so all their rich buddies could scam the public, learn it, love it, you caqused your own problesm
Furthermore, people were being bussed to election poles during the election....why??? becasue voting for color is not racist....that's why.....Black Panthers is not racist that's why....you must live in Ca. It amazes me the amount ignorance in this country. Just one question, where is the transparant gov.? When we elect a LEADER hopefully we find one, and Obama isn't it...then maybe we can get on the right track. Vote the crooks out of Congress to include dems and republicans alike. DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE.
I agree he was voted in because of an ideal, as a historic moment in time and it felt good. The problem was that Obama was not qualified. It was his promises for the future and what he was rather than his qualifications that got him elected. Obama in my opinion is a clueless, unqualified, egotist. I hate to say this but it seems like he has skated by on race most of his life (getting breaks and endorsements based on race rather than hard work and qualifications). We would not be in the situation that we are in today if Hillary/Bill had been voted into office in 2008 or if the Republicans had nominated Colin Powell.
I think that is my biggest regret in this whole mess is that Colin Powell did not become president (especially the first president of African American decent – which Obama is not). Once I got over the disappointment of Hillary/Bill not being nominated I had hoped that McCain would choose Powell as vice president and that Powell would then be president in 2012. If I had to pick one person in the Republican party that I respected it would be Powell.
Unfortunately, unless Hillary/Bill break ranks and challenge Obama (which I hope they do) then I am going to end up voting Republication (there is no way in heck I am voting for Obama given his record, $$$$ vacations, massive spending – wall street bailouts, payout scandals to campaign contributers (solar scandal), cluelessness, and his ego). His being an egotist I could stand. He could write about himself all day long (which I am sure he does for his post president books) as long as he got the job done.
I just have not figured out yet (barring a Democratic shake up – fingers crossed) who I am going to vote for in 2012. I wish there were stronger candidates.
the emperor is wearing no clothes, folks. we've been had.
Can somebody tell me, and I am being serious, what EXACTLY DID the President do to win such an award?
He made loads of empty promises with no idea how to make them reality.
Heck, I've done more for peace than he has .. I don't have the power to stop a war & choose to do nothing.
IceT, President Obama took out Osama Bin Laden with a strategical strike force with 0 casualties. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld started TWO WARS decimated TWO countries murdering over 90,000 human beings. President Obama cannot just pull American troops out without making every humanitarian effort to repair some of the devastation Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld caused.
He didn't "earn" it so why would we expect him to live up to it?
now that is exactly what is wrong with the liberal movement. not earning what they receive makes them not respect it.
President Obama has proved himself a war monger. He's had every opportunity to end the wars and instead he starts a new one in Libya. He's done nothing to address runaway military and war budgets and now he's trying to keep troops in Iraq. Warmonger.
I am an American. Take away the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama is a killer in the Arab nations. Please free Palestine. Stop supporting Israel and stop killing the Palestinians. We are all humans.
Absolutely not. He was awarded the Nobel Prize based on.. potential alone .. and not on facts.. for that matter EVERY US president should be given the award at the beginning of their 1st administration... I'd like to nominate him for the Nobel Economics Prize this time around... the potential is there.. and he has screwed it up already (unlike the Peace Prize which he got PRIOR to screwing things up.. ).. at least this time he has the facts to back up the nomination..
I think that even President Obama knew that at the time he received the Peace prize he had not earned it yet. I humble man and wiser man would have declined the prize and waited until he really earned it. It's kind of like receiving an Oscar for a movie that has been made yet. Even Hollywood has more sense than to give someone an Oscar based on potential. The Nobel Peace prize is now just a joke to me and most other people. Too bad it was a great idea at one time.
The Nobel Peace Prize criterion has moved from a position of outstanding accomplishment for the betterment of humanity to a criterion of politics and "Extra effort" with accomplishment optional. The Nobel Peace Prize is fast losing its prestige!
actually it's more like "good effort."
Thank you
he has been total failure and disappointments.
I still like Obama. But I never thought he deserved the Nobel Prize and never will. He should have refused it on ethical grounds.
The Nobel Peace Prize has lost all creditability with the awarding of Obama and Gore.
I just love reading comments from those that think this incompetent deserved anything after three days in office. Come on now are all you libs and dems that stupid? I hope all you faithful to the community organizer are draining your life savings to get this idiot reelected, good luck trying to survive on government handouts. Sorry, you all are probably receiving those now. Three days people, three days. Just what exactly did he do in three days, besides golf and a vacation?
When the War monger Obama received this award, I knew it was worthless. This idiot continues too throw Gas on wars Bush started, and invades Lybia, now he asking the president of Syria to step down. Where does this dictator get off. The Nobel peace prize, what a joke it is!!
This is a joke, right? He was nominated for the once important prize just ELEVEN DAYS after his inauguration. This was on form only, no substance. There can be no conversation about having earned it. This pathetic nomination and award marks a low point for the Nobel Peace Prize after it was awarded to a number of political liberals. When Carter received the prize, they even admitted that it was a protest against Bush. Like all other elements of this administration, just another sad joke.
Obama got the peace prize because the committee wanted to snub George Bush. Plain and simple. I voted for Obama, but do not think he deserved the prize then, nor would he deserve it now. There are many more people who have done things with risk of their lives for the cause. The Nobel committee in effect cheapened the prize. So sad.
Can you people not read? He won it for bringing Russia to the table to reduce our combined nuclear stockpile. He had inherited the wars in iraq and afghanistan, so how could that be held against him? What he has done since is irrelevant to what he won the noble prize for. Get over it tea baggers.
So he did that before the nominations for the prize closed 11 or 12 days after he was sworn in? Last I heard you had to deserve it BEFORE they give it to you, and some winners have spent a lifetime deserving it.
The Prize was given to him for his potential to do things, with the approach he took.
People,
Just looks at all the achievements of President Obama:
* Ended the Iraq war
* Ending the Afghanishtan was, and eliminated Al Queda chiefs
* Inspired freedom movements in Syria, Egypt, Tunisian, Libya and Yemen
* Talked tough with Israel to create a Palestinian state
* Improved race relations in U.S., with his inspiring talks and ideas
* Created university Health care in U.S.
and the list goes on and on..
Give him the respect and appreciation he deserves, and open out your minds!
I would like to see some wealthy American businessman establish an award, with a big ceremony and large cash amount, for presentation to a Norwegian politician, of whom we, in our sole discretion, approve, as a reward for all Norwegians who have all been good little boys and girls and elected someone we like. Think that might annoy some Norwegians?
It would anger me, but we would deserve it. Our politicians had no business telling Americans about their voting.
obama was in office less than 2 days and got this prize ?????????????????????????????????????????????.....
They gave this award to Yassar Arafat. It is less than meaningless.
Normally Peace Prize does not go to War Criminals. The prize is phony just like the International Court in Hague. The small time military men that got in our way are prosecuted for so called crimes and the big war criminals that caused deaths of millions and terrible misery, hunger go unpunished. Remember Nuremberg ? While Stalin was killing millions ,his cronies were passing judgment on others and operation Keelhaul ( our Western Allies ) placed over a million people in the hands of butchers. Not much has changed. Bush, Chaney , Rumsfelt write books and are being promoted by the media and their war crimes and crimes against the American people are not mentioned. if they were on the losing side they would have been hanged like they hanged Saddam, who was their patsie at one time. You can do anything if you have power.
Rightospeak, I agree, Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld are murders and should be tried for war crimes instead of touring the country touting their books..
Anyone still left on the Obama train has got to be blind, deaf and half dead. He didn't deserve the NPP when he first received it and in my opinion, he hasn't done a single thing any other POTUS has done in recent years to earn that distinction. Obama was awarded the NPP based upon his silver tongue. Not his perceived silver lining.
Sorry to disagree. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with his "silver tongue". He got the award simply because he was the first. You fill in the blank.
Let's see here:
1) War in Afghanistan – yep still going
2). Drones Killing people throughout Pakistan and Yemen – Yep, increased activity
3). War in Iraq – yep still going
4). Guantanamo – yep, still miserable terrorists sitting on the coast of a harbor for terrorism.
So what has he (Obama) done?
1) first African American President – yep
2). Nuclear arms treaty with Russia – BFD, there have been treaties with Russia / Soviet Union going back to the sixties.. heck, going back to WW II
So what has he accomplished? I believe the record speaks for itself. A continuation of the worst policies of Bush II, and very little else...oh yeah, and economy that can we can truly say is the worst since the Great Depression. Good Job President Obama! You rock.
Osobien, President Obama took out Osama Bin Laden with a strategical strike force with 0 casualties. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld started TWO WARS decimated TWO countries murdering over 90,000 human beings. President Obama cannot just pull American troops out without making every humanitarian effort to repair some of the devastation Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld caused.
yup. killing someone is definitely worthy of the nobel peace prize. thank you liberal hypocrite.
NO ONE WITH ANY " INTELLIGENCE " WOULD VOTE FOR OBAMA !
OnlyHandofdoom, just to be clear, are you saying people with half a brain will vote for Perry?
considering thanks to Obama close to 50% of Americans receive government assistance I'd say there is real concern here....
If I were the other people received a Nobel Peace Prize, I would've been so insulted to be included in the same category as Obama.
Actually, I doubt they care. They have a Nobel prize. I'd still be happy with that. Now if they gave it to Brad Pitt or something, then I'd have a problem.
K, you will never have to worry about being in the same category as President Obama. Just my observation but it would take all the things you lack. (courage, compassion, integrity, and character).
if it contradicts your opinion than i can only hope i'm in that category as well. i don't know what i would do if a brianwashed sofa liberal related to me.
President Obama lived up to his standards of Noble Price winner. He proved in killing OBL & his supporters what his predecessors could not do with same forces & facilities. He has proved marvelously successful in his words, vision & determination. He could not do better on Job Front for people of America as powers centers like cost centers are in Congress & Senate with political vengeance on him for 2012 although not acknowledged publicly but work openly underneath & in under current. On a number of occasions politicians could lose control on their tongs in public & uttered openly on public forum hitting hard public conviction & confidence. President Obama did well in Libya by seeking NATO contribution in preventing large scale murders of Libyans declared in warlike declaration by Gadhafi’s elder son on national TV. Despite all odds, graver situation & economic stress Obama could prove that he could & did better than most Presidents of USA who never faced similar challenges during their presidency. Still time is there up to 2012 to extend hand of cooperation & realistic support by GOP & Tea Party members & work with President for national good rather than political accomplishments to defeat President Obama who has established enough credentials to win in 2012 for second term. These are the hard facts of public opinion not political vendetta. It is simple mathematics learnt by people of America about political weight
@amarjeet – whatever you are smokin' please share. Also, you might want to re-read your post and correct some of the grammar and syntax. Just not quite what I would think in a public forum. But then again, read about who you are supporting. Did you get your GED yet? Hope you have it framed on your wall, that is if you have a wall. More likely than not a cardboard box in some shanty town....
I disagree that he 'lived up' to his Nobel Prize, he really didn't earn it like other winners. I just think there were so many more people that were far more deserving. But I agree that he will most likely win 2012, and that his approval rating doesn't necessary represent how good of a job he's done as President. Approval ratings really don't show much beyond how times are. If times are bad, Presidents get disapproval, it times are good, they'll get good approval ratings. Funny how that works, isn't it? When something goes wrong, blame the President. Even with his decreasing approval ratings, could you imagine a President Perry? My God, I think I might leave the country. As someone in the branch of science, I'd probably lose my job. Only Romney is the one who isn't frightening, and I don't even like him. But he won't get elected because Mormonism is associated with a lot of false rumors that people actually think are true.
Amarjeet, ditto!! =-])
Apparently you don't read the polls. Obama is going to loose big time in 2012. The reason is going to be the same why he won in the first place. Everyone hated Bush so they voted for Obama. Now everyone is disgusted with the narcisist Obama and will vote him out. As far as accomplishments, the list of failures and lies far outweigh any good he has done, which hasn't been much. Also, you and AaronT3 really need to break the Kool-Aid habit and come back down to earth.
Obama only got the Nobel because he's half-black and became POTUS anyway,
all he had to do was collect his award and go back to being a white conservative.
Did anyone really think that President Obama should just come into office and pull all our troops out? I can't tell if all the "Obama really does not want Peace" comments are right wingers trying to prove a point or left wingers without a clear grasp on world politics. We blew the absolute he11 out of Iraq. We destroyed their infrastructure and the security forces that held the country together. At the point that Obama took office, what was the definition of peace? We were already in two wars – just pulling out of either one without completing at least the basic mission would be foolish and in Iraqs case, inhumane.
To think that any President won't have to deal with conflict is a fantasy. We can look at Libya as "his" conflict. but goodness me, he did not go forward without international approval and without a foreign leadership structure in place. Europe turned that into a fiasco in the beginning, not Obama.
Orin, you are absolutely correct my friend.. Bush left office with most of the world hating America, and if we just pulled our troops out after all that destruction Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld caused I think we'd be dismissed from the UN. I think President Obama is doing the best he can cleaning up the mess left by the warmongers Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld!!!
By continuing and expanding the wars started by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld? Not to mention adding a third? Heck in Iraq he's following the timetable Bush had signed before he left office.
So fine day 1 Obama couldn't pull all the troops out (he could have stop operations though). But 3 years later? Yeah, he could've.
President Obama deserves the Nobel Peace Prize and more. It was a symbol of what America could be, then the Republican Tea Bag Koch Roaches held America hostage. When you have congressmen and congresswomen sign an oath to do EVERYTHING they can to sabotage our President and yet President Obama remains hopeful and pushes forward. Well I'm with him 100% and say again President Obama deserves the Nobel Peace Prize and more!!
You do know that the DNC Special Interests were just as bad as Koch brothers. Ones like GE. Yep, they did the SAME thing. DNC must not of minded to much considering they asked the Koch Bros for campaign financing. Murray asked. Koch Bro have a letter they sent back to the DNC about that request. LOL
AaronT3 – You need to kick the kool-aid habit. You definitely have a fetish for Obama that no one else does. He didn't deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, he has turned out to be a mediocre president in the same league as Jimmy Carter.
WOW! No wonder this guy is in office. Hopefully these types will be the minority next time around.
I dont know how this is even a question. How pathetic that they use the reasoning "Well Russia may come to an agreement about nuclear arms so we can only blow up the world 3 times over and not 4". Because even if Russia did/does reduce its nuclear stock, its not reducing its standing military but in fact increasing it!
Thats not to mention presiding over 3 wars, increased drone attacks, supplying mexican drug cartels with weapons, and now killing american citizens without trial. Obama's prize was solely about "We don't like Bush,you're not Bush, here is your prize.". Jokes on them. Obama's foreign policy is basically Bush redux.
Zaggs, President Obama took out Osama Bin Laden with a strategical strike force with 0 casualties. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld started TWO WARS decimated TWO countries murdering over 90,000 human beings. President Obama cannot just pull American troops out without making every humanitarian effort to repair some of the devastation Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld caused.
Yes aaron after 3 years, Obama could very well pull troops out. Obama is already on record that genocide in Iraq would not be a good enough reason to keep troops in Iraq. Hence humanitarian reasons would not be enough. He also EXPANDED Afghanistan operations.
Not to mention an illegal war in Libya as it violated the War Powers Act.
Also if after 3 years you're still blaming Bush, what you're really saying is Obama is totally incompetent to have made any changes by now.
Zaggs, The death tolls Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld is still running. If they did not start the wars we would not be there, WMD my butt. So those past lives and the lives to come as a direct reaction to Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld warmongering will always be laid on the initiators. Blaming President Obama for this is like blaming a Fire Chief the fire some moron started!! Sorry, 90,000 lives is a lot and I will forever remember the warmonger team Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld!!!!
AaronT3, you can't blame the fire chief for some moron starting the fire, but you can blame him for coming to the fire with no water in the fire trucks to put it out. Obama is an empty shell of a president who is going to loose in 2012 and you better face reality now or you are going to be in for one big let down come November 2012...
What a silly, silly question ...
Yea, but since it's about President Obama the Republican Tea Bag Koch roaches declared open season..
I guess it all boils down to how you define peace. Taking out some of the most notorious killers of human beings would go a long way toward justifying his receiving the medal. All you nay sayers would have an orgasm or a climax if the medal had been given to Reagan, or either one of the Bushes. Look back at the ones that have recieved the medal and you can probably find something in their back groundthat you could use to say they did not deserve it. I dont believe President Obama lobbied for the damn thing and could not care less whether or not he got it. he donated the money to a worthy cause. get a life.
I think he took that Peace Prize as a challenge.
Afalsepeace, President Obama accepted because he has a gracious nature and remember he gave ALL the money $1.3 million to charity..
He scammed 1/2 Billion from the tax payers with Solyndra. Not to mention his personal Lightsquared fiasco. His appointees and Gov Agencies used tax dollars to fund the Cartel/Hezbollah in Mexico with the Fast and Furious program! That is not my or anyone elses idea of PEACE! He failed! He Lied and he needs to go. His ADM has been a threat to our own National Security!
Afalsepeace, speaking of Drug Cartels, how do you think they launder money. Well The Republican GOP Tea Bag Koch Roaches on the "Supreme Court" decided PACs do not have to account for donations. So Drug dealer give Perry Pac $13,000,000 and start up a consulting company. Perry's PAC pays the drug cartel fake company $5,000,000 for some work and presto you have clean money. Now we all know drugs is about $40 Billion/year now thanks to the Republican GOP Tea Bag Koch Roaches on the "Supreme Court" the can really clean up.. pun intended
What a question. Well let's take it apart.
When Obama took office we were in two wars. Iraq and Afghan. Obama 3 years later is still in both. However, he widened the playing field. Yemen and Pakistan. More "PEACE" money to Egypt, Palestinians, Saudia Arabia.. Then he decided to go into Libya. Almost caused WWIII with his speech on Israeli borders. Which ended up having Peace Treaty between Palestinians and Israel thrown out. Then when he backtracked after Palestinians went to the UN that caused problems with the rest of the Arab Nations..Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Syria, Turkey...and of course Pakistan and Iran. Libya mess up with the Ground to Air Missiles disappearing and Obama's funding of Muzlim Brotherhood ticked Russia and China off who then refused to help with Syria. Peace PRIZE? NO is an understatement!
We have the best form of government that money can buy. It is bought and sold every day!
I voted for the president in 2008 and intend to do so in 2012. However, it is quite apparent that the main reason he was awarded the Peace Prize in 2009 was because he was not George Bush. The award of the prize was not, I believe, intended so much to honor President Obama as it was intended to shame President Bush. Assuming this is true enough, then I can't say President Obama earned the award, but that's not my call.
You see there righties how someone just used their brain?
Obama lived up to the Nobel Prize? I thought a person had to have done something for peace and humanity before winning the prize! The Nobel Commitee has become a laughing stock.
No he has not. How do you live up to something you do not deserve. This was a black eye ( oops, hope no one takes this as racist ) for the awarding of the Peace Prize.
Last time I heard, you had to earn it before they gave it to you. Since he didn't DO anything Nobel-worthy prior to his presidency (or since) I would have to say no.
He even said himself he didn't deserve it, and yet he accepted it. What does that say about his moral character?
A really smart guy would have refused this at that time.
Welcome to American Idol folks!!!
His Peace Prize award was because he was suppose to be bringing people together. The problem is, he has done the opposite. There is more seperation now among people than there was prior to Obama becoming president. Remember Mrs. Obama's statement when her husband was nominated for president, "This is the first time I've ever been proud of America".
You hit it on the head Carl!
What good is winning Nobel Prize if millions of people (9.1%) are out of work and has resulted in no peace, no joy and no prosperity?.....more importantly, the Wall-Street Spring is spinning out control and Obama do something about it?...it looks like our country is turning into Banana Republic where thousands of people are rioting on the streets everyday.
I agree with you how could republicans and bush have done this to us? you're right to be mad at them, oh wait your a buffoon
Osobien, you forgot Gunwalker other than that great list.
No, he didn't deserve it when he got it, and he deserves it even less now. I didn't expect much more for a prize founded by the inventor of dynamite so that he wouldn't be remembered as someone who created something so deadly. Heck, they even gave one to Yasser Arafat!
The fact of the matter is he had done nothing to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. What he has done since really has no bearing one way or another. To base this "prize" on the basis of one's potential or what one intends to do renders said prize completely meaningless. Roosevelt and Wilson had negotiated the end of wars before being awarded the prize. Mother Teresa had spent her life working to better the world. MLK Jr. had already been working for years towards racial equality when he received the award in 1964, a year after his "I have a dream" speech. Kissinger negotiated the end of a war, and opened up dialogue with a communist state before he received the award.
The list can go on and on about truly deserving winners. And lets not forget, many times throughout history they haven't awarded the Peace Prize to anyone as there were no deserving candidates that year.
The Peace Prize has no become more and more pointless through the last several years and by giving the award to Obama it rendered it completely meaningless. It doesn't matter what he has done since to deserve the award, what did he do to deserve it in the first place?
Just remeber, it's only been 3 1/2 years. The next 3/12 year should be really fun.
no
Well we all have to admit that he has top all the other "peace" winners. He launched more missles and killed more people than any other "peace prize" winner
The Nobel committee fell into the same wizardry and amore that people felt when he visited my town. It was a farmer's market center and there were about 500 people present. He had just announced his candidacy and they were flocking around him. None of the media were allowed inside because it was an exclusive $1000 per plate fund raiser where people could talk openly. But the press got so much more coverage outside by talking to his supporters who just showed up to shake his hand but not attend the fund raiser. The news crew went up to a young Black woman in her 30's with a couple kids next to her. They asked her why she supported him and she replied, "He's so beautiful, I don't care what his policies are or his record I just care that he's such a good looking Black man who I would give all my soul and body to." So the reporter asked, "what do you like about his proposed budget plans." She replied, "Honey, that man's so cute and beautiful I really don't care about his this and that stuff."
Peace Prize – I suppose making the US a weaker more Islamic government peaceful for the rest of the world and subject to middle eastern rule. I suppose alienating the people who founded this nation under GOD is a peaceful attempt. I have never seen a president destroy a country and it's peoples heart in such a short period of time. Neither he nor his wife love this country. We have people who risked life and limb to be here many years ago. They would have done anything to be a part of this great country. Now, we have a president who gets the peace prize for destroying America. All I can say is WOW!!!
CNN is asking a silly question.
The Nobel Peace Prize isn't awarded for "potential" acts of "future" peace.
Barack Obama didn't deserve the Nobel Prize and he deserves to be President of the United States even less. Obama continues and expands the same war policies that got Bush/Cheney accused of war crimes by the European community. Hypocrisy is a sign of ignorance.
I bet you didn't mind too much when Bush was called Hitler.
^ I never called Bush Hitler – - just idiot.
I will never forget how he started a War in Iraq because of Bin Laden – then -after- he started the War, went on TV and said that he didn't know where Bin Laden was – and didn't care.
W was a a coward, an Idiot, a liar and a fool. And this is why he couldn't catch Bin Laden.
Here's my take, and I honestly don't care if you disagree. I think Barack Obama surpassed the expectations of the Nobel Peace Prize commitee. Here is why I say this. I like that they mentioned the Russian arms deal, but that never even crossed my mind. More important and immediate to his job as President of the United States, he passed the Affordable Care Act. Sure, that doesn't have anything to do with the international scene unless you consider that taking care of our own may reduce the flow of Americans going oversease to receive better healthcare. He accomplished this agenda item in the face of fierce opposition, not only from the opposing party, but many from his own party.
Another thing he did right here for Americans was sign the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell. Now, I know again that that has nothing to do with international peace, but think about this. He has elevated human rights to a new level in our country. That, alone, is worthy of the prize. Think of all the presidents who have come before him and failed to do that for one reason or another. The next president will have a very hard act to follow.
Then, there is the fact that Barack Obama supported the Arab Spring. Some view that as an act of aggression. I do not. I think he simply got behind the people who wanted freedom and gave them a literal fighting chance. It brought bloodshed and violence to be sure, but the end result has an even greater potential for freedom throughout the Middle East than ever.
Furthermore, Barack Obama's actions in support of the Arab Spring are not even remotely similar to President Bush's actions in Iraq. President Bush, if you recall, did not wait for an uprising of the people. He took preemptive, unilateral action based on a vendetta and political agenda that we still can't figure out to this day. What's more, we're still in Iraq. In the Arab Spring movements, we established no permanent basis and we did not occupy anything. NATO still supports the Libyan rebels, but that revolution is rapidly coming to an end.
Finally, the killing of Al Qaida terrorists doesn't bother me in the least. Barack Obama made it very clear in his acceptance speech that America must defend itself. He also said that he would, as our leader, carry that mission to its completion. He has covered every legal angle on the killing of these men, and I applaud his efforts. It's funny that some people want to deny he had anything at all to do with bringing these killers to their just end, but at the same time they want to turn around and prosecute him for war crimes. Get real!
Barack Obama has already more than earned his Nobel Peace Prize, but I have a feeling, he'll continue to earn it for the rest of his life. God bless the man.
By the way, I see that I left behind numerous typos. I apologize for that. I was typing fast and didn't take the time to proofread what I wrote. Yikes! "Commitee" should be "committee," "oversease" should be "overseas," and "basis" should be "bases." I also apologize for a lousy stream-of-consciousness essay and all the style errors I made. Still, I want to say that I stand by my major points, and I don't care if Barack Obama merely completed what George Bush started. The fact is, that he got it done. That's a feather in his cap, whether you like it or not.
We forgive you...it's Monday morning.
So how does that support peace? I'm sorry, but killing and supporting death are against the principles of the Noble Peace Prize.
No, no, no!
This article is a LIE. There were no "new" arms negotiations with the Russians, Obama simply extended a pact that Bush had originally inked with them. That pretty much sums up Obama's career.
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Obama is just like bush, an oil baron warlord. Borrowing $4 billion a week from China to blow up the middle east so that the republican oil barons and their executives can live it up on our squandered taxes. Obama is the biggest disappointment of the 21st century. All he can do is order more drone strikes and strut around.
The $100,000 dollar question here is why did he win it in the first place?
I voted for the president, but in hindsight he did not deserve th e nobel peace prize.
The only change we can believe in is change of party every few yers..demorcats to republicans and then back to democrats and so on. Everything else is business as usual.
The Nobel Peace Prize, what a joke that has become, mankind patting itself on the back.
Freakin' hilarious.
The Nobel Peace Prize is a liberal joke and so is Obama.
Why did they give him the peace prize at the first place? Didn't make any sense to me.
Obama didn't ask for the prize. He was given the prize because of his ideas, to encourage them. He acknowledged in his acceptance that he had not earned it. Not sure how all this is grounds for an attack on Obama.
It's another illustration of how he was given every advantage, and unprecedented global support in addition to his unprecedented 2-year long supermajority in Congress – AND ACHIEVED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Apparently he has been very successful in turning us into a socialist country after only 2 years! Which is it hack?
LOL. I like the quote I heard (I can't take credit): Obama has launched more cruise missles than all other winners of the Nobel Peace prize put together.
ROFL, like any true liberal would ever question the truest liberal hypocrite to ever screw americans over. I thought the prize was bad when it awarded al gore over a nun who actually saved lives instead of flying around the globe telling other people to stop burning fossil fuels. but handing Obama the prize forever ruined it.
We are still in Iraq, We are still in Afganistan, We are still in Gitmo. The only change was he is not George Bush
Mr. Obama getting the prize when he did is and was a joke. Heck – he charged into Libya and put our citizens at risk without even getting congressional approval. Though the actions of Bush are called into question, he presented a case based on information he was given, to congress and a vote was taken to authorize actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Can we give the peace prize to Dr. Evil next time? heard Austin Powers coming up next year.
Unfortunately, Obama has brought shame to the Nobel Peace Prize and discounted what is the meaning and true value of that prize. As an advocate for humanity, I am saddened by the decline and loss of credibility Obama has brought to this traditionally merit award and the world in general. It was a mistake.
For much of the World, any policy that causes a decline in the power and prestige of the United States promotes peace and prosperity in the rest of the World. Were this really true, President Obama would be the greatest peacemaker in history.
He didn't asked for it .....they gave it to him.
To Bill in Jacksonville, Fl. We all make mstakes. Your latest comments was posted on Oct. 9th. I was thinking your comments were posted this Monday morning the 10th. I did not bother to look at the time and date. I am having my first cup of coffy now. LOL
They gave Obama the Nobel prize before he even had a chance to do ANYTHING. He certainly didn't deserve it then, and I'm not aware of anything he's done since then, that would make me think he deserved a Nobel prize. The fact is, when they gave the Nobel prize to a man who had done nothing beyond winning an election, they cheapened the entire meaning of the prize in my mind.
I grew up thinking the Nobel prize actually meant something. Now I see it's just another political reward, surviving off the reputation of those who created the idea before the idea was forgotten. What a joke.
To Bill in Jacksonville FL....I am not making fun of you but I made a mistake too in my latest comment. I used the word "was" instead of "were" before the word "posted".
I agree that Obama should not have been given the Peace Prize. I was astounded that he was awarded the prize with only months into his presidency. But does anyone really think that Obama can negotiate peaceful solutions with Al-Qaeda, the Taliban and Palestinians and Israel ? Basically I think Obama is a good and decent man and personally, I think Obama went into office with naivety and perhaps delusions of grandeur. He has now realize how the politics of Washington works I have read somewhere that he has confided to his friends that he thinks that he will be a one term president and based on that personal assumption he took the prize's money and ran while he can.
The Nobel committee made absolute fools of themselves and a complete joke of the peace prize in giving the award to Obama FOR HAVING DONE NOTHING. They were simply dazzled by the "Audacity of Hype". Europeans were even more optimistic about Obama's prospects than Americans were. Now they are even more disappointed – as they should be. But did this reporter actually think the Nobel committee would admit what a ridiculous mistake it made?
This is the first Noble prize receipient who was expected to live up the Noble Prize. Every other receipient had already lived up in order to receive a prize like this. Its like awarding a doctorate degree from Harvard and then asking a person to live up to that award.
He beat out a woman that smuggled babies out of the Polish geto who in return had almost every bone in her body broken by the Nazis. Really? I'm sorry, Obama doesn't even deserve to be in the same room.
Re: "Has President Obama lived up to his Nobel Peace Prize?"
Ha, ha, hah, gag!
The only thing that Obama has lived up to is the fact that he never should have been considered as a candidate for the Oval Office.
The man is a LOSER!
I would have preferred he not have gotten the award, in fact so would he. But after GW Hitler, the world would have given the prize to Bo. The prez has been doing well in reducing our global effort, needs to go faster IMO and you folks need to vote in some reps w backbones so he can close gitmo
I ain't heard no body talk about Cain's skin color and he is blacker than the idiot now in the WH who is just l/2 black though he won't admit having white blood. So it must be the democrats and liberals or are spitting out this bias about blacks, his prejudice. It sure ain't the conservatives as they are supporting an all-black man. This one will make a much better leader than the so nothing Obama.
p.s. I normally do not use ain't and my language is very proper but thought I'd jazz it up so some of you could understand.
Hello Ole Granny, I am black man that works at a company that has 300 white people “most love me to death and others will kill me if they were smarter enough to get away with it” and they don’t even acknowledge that the President is ½ white. They call him every name under the sun except the Son of GOD! Last I check I thought I saw the President pay much respect to his mother that is White repeatedly. Not that she was white but the fact that she was and is his mother! You haven’t heard anyone talk about Cain because he is a joke! Making a statement to the fact that black people have no reason to claim racism and we bring it on ourselves. So racist have gotten smarter and being that! I go through it on a daily bases and have brought it to the companies attention and everyone says you are making too much of nothing! Or I have paid for college and have all the qualification for my job and many others but can’t get promotion or another position because; I am not in the Good ole Boy group! So you can support Cain if you want. You will be begging for this President after see what he will or won’t do! Read up on his 999 tax plan, them see how much you like that black man! Just that last statement you made about JAZZING it up so some of you could understand calls your judgment into question! Anytime you have to explain an action before someone ask you about it, means you let your true colors show!
As I read all the responses to the original question, most are so off base with their reply that it has become a bash the President session! The one thing I know or think I know to be true is this, most people that are replying don’t even have their own homes in order, their own bills paid on time or can’t keep the people close to them happy. So now we are looking to the 44th President to have every answer to every problem in the United States, YEAH RITE. For what this President has had to overcome with the fact of even getting elected was monumental, then having two wars that one had nothing to with the price of tea in China ‘Just a saying that means not justified”, just about everyone knew that OBL was in Pakistan but we went to Iraq and got Suddam Hussein for what? A GOP that works for Wall Street and will not tax them the same way I “a blue collar work” has been taxed for the 22 years of working. A TEA Party that has some of the believes that the KKK has WOW! No one wants the Government to have control of things until something affects them. We had a previous president that did what? We had a Vice President that was the CEO of a company called Halliburton that received hundreds of millions of dollars of no bid contracts to supply the military during the wars with faulty equipment that has killed our service man as well. Where is that Senate hearing at? The only thing GWB is good for is the acronym of WMD! That we still haven’t found 10 years later!
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I find it absurd that when someone criticizes Obama, the immediate response is generally "but BUSH blah blah blah". LOL as if stating your opinion on an entirely different person wins the argument or is even at least acceptable.
BTW, I have never heard in my life someone responding to criticism of Bush with "but CLINTON blah blah blah". If you can't answer the debate with valid points, either:
1. Don't Debate
2. Change your Opinion
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