By Fareed Zakaria, CNN
You wouldn't have thought anti-Americanism in Pakistan could get any worse, but last week NATO attacked a Pakistani army post, killing 24 Pakistani soldiers. Even before this episode, for which NATO expressed deep regret, it would be difficult to find a country on the planet that was more anti-American than Pakistan. In a Pew survey this year, only 12% of Pakistanis expressed a favorable view of the United States. Populist rage and official duplicity have built up even though Washington has lavished Islamabad with aid totaling $20 billion over the last decade.
I think it's time to recognize that the America’s Pakistan policy is just not working. I write this as someone who has consistently supported engaging with the Pakistani government as the best of bad options. But the evidence that this engagement is working is thin - and gets thinner with every passing month.
Supporting Islamabad has been premised on two arguments. The first is that if we don’t, the Pakistani government could collapse and the country’s nuclear weapons could fall into the wrong hands, perhaps even ending up with al Qaeda. This misunderstands the problem. Pakistan is not Somalia. It has been ruled by a professional military for most of its independent existence, even when there has been a nominally civilian government in charge - as there is today. There have been no Gaddafiesque colonels’ coups in Pakistan; instead, the entire military, with its command chain intact, has moved to replace the civilian government. The military remains widely admired as a national institution that works.
The second argument is the one given by businesses when they pay off the Mafia: ‘We need to keep these guys as allies, or else they will become enemies.’ The problem with this protection racket is that it isn’t working. Admiral Mike Mullen finally said publicly what insiders have said privately for years: Pakistan’s army, despite getting over a quarter of its budget from Washington, funds and arms the most deadly terrorist group in South Asia.
Pakistan's military needs to stop playing games to keep Afghanistan weak and India off balance. It needs to start trying to create peace, stability and prosperity for its people. In other words, Pakistan needs a civilian conception of its national interest. And it can only get that from a flourishing civilian government.
There lies a fundamental tension in U.S. policy toward Pakistan. We want a more democratic country, but we also want a government that can deliver anti-terrorism cooperation on the ground. In practice, we always choose the latter, which means we cozy up to the military and overlook its destruction of democracy.
But the only way to get real cooperation is by helping Pakistan move from being a military state to a more normal country. If Washington continues to bolster Pakistan's de-facto military dictatorship, we will get a dysfunctional nation where the public - fed propaganda by the military establishment - continues to vent its anger at Washington.
The Arab Spring holds key lessons. When Washington props up a dictatorship because it needs foreign policy support, it is building up wellsprings of poison and anti-Americanism within society that, one day, will erupt.
Read more on this in my essay in TIME Magazine. For more of my thoughts throughout the week, I invite you to follow me on Facebook and Twitter and to visit the Global Public Square every day.
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Who are we kidding? Pakistan is our enemy and they should be treated as such. Cut off the money NOW.
Just make sure there are plenty of fallout shelters here.
We're going to need them.
I think the U.S. need Pakistan as long as stability is not restored in Afghanistan. The problem with Pakistan is that the ISI has an iron grip on the country. The ISI supports the Haqqani network to fight the "non-believers" in Afghanistan and combats the Pakistani Taliban, as the TTP try to topple the civilian government in Islamad. Yet one day the Afghan Taliban could turn the tables on the ISI and side with the TTP. In Spring 2009 the TTP ousted the local authorities in the Swat Valley and were approaching Islamabad. They were driven away by the government forces.
Pakistan should think about its own security for a change and not what people like you say.
Pakistan is more important to its citizens then Afghanistan now Pakistan should tell USA enough is enough we are finished with your so-called war on terror as you do not recognize our sacrifices as we lost 40,000 people. Please keep your money and find some other country though which you can transport your supplies.
To save our people from Taliban and the so-called friends the Americans should be our priority and not what they want
Good points. However, I think Obama is looking at a serious withdrawal from that area. India can take care or monitor Pakistan. Afghanistan is no longer in the equation now that Bin Laden is dead. The more boys we bring home before the election, the better it's going to look for Obama. It would be hard to vote against him after ending the fiasco Bush got us in.
fareed is always anti Pakistan 24/7 being that he is an Indian raised to hate Pakistan, that I understand, but he has lived in the US for so many years and working for such a big organization, he does not even pretend to be even....ever when it comes to Pakistan, never gives it the benefit of doubt and always hides his anti Pakistan bias behind a thin veneer of oh well we tried to give Pakistan the benefit but ......
Pakistan has always been used by the US, and the Pakistani people are wise to it, and this angers Americans, how dare they dont lie flat for our paltry few dollars in aid. Please, we are not slaves, we admired the US and still do, US fast food craze is big in Pakistan so is fashion and media but we have pride and we have lost 35000 civilians and 5500 soldiers and yet Americans insult us constantly, so then lets part ways amicably.
Pakistan has enough of US friendship. I deeply regret the visit of Liaqat Ali Khan to USA after independence against the wishes of USSR. The complete Cold War Era , Struggle against USSR in Afghanistan, Spearheading Global War on Terror after 9/11 with a prize of 7th Naval Fleet which never came for rescue in 1971, No resolution of Kashmir issue, slapping Pressler amendments after Soviet Collapse, Sanctions after atomic explosions, and now we dont have right to protest against killing of two dozen soldiers. Height of delight. We have enough of US friendship. Indians are dying to sit in their laps and its obvious. Please bomb Pakistan Government only to demand all tax payer money of USA which has been given to us in aid but lay off and leave us alone.
I find myself agreeing with ratee. We cannot give freedom to Afghanistan or Pakistan, and our attempt to do it will only continue to make them hate us. Of course they hate anyone who is near them. All of which makes me believe that in this part of the world it is better to be feared than loved. We should act on threats to us with brutal force and then get out and have nothing to do with the region. It is possible that absence will make the heart grow fonder. In this case, the absence of our money.
My question is where are you going to get the supplies for the land locked country for getting the unfinished war completed with face saving exit as other options are not practical.
Perhaps people write letters here without knowing the geography of that area.
Do a little research and you will find out that the only access to Afghanistan isn't through Pakistan. We've got trains carrying equipment through countries to the north of Afghanistan...using the same route that the soviet army used when they were invading the country.
Perhaps you need to do some research. Those Central-Asian countries do not have ports and thus using them as transit routes is much more expensive, also – Russia exercises great influence in that region and ties between US & Russia are at a historic low. The route from Pakistani ports to Afghanistan is the most efficient and cost effective. That is what the Soviets wanted to access back in the day.
we should just leave pakistan to the Indians. as far as the Afgans, let the russians and the chinees help them. if afgans fail, it is the russian and chinees borders that become unstable. why should we do their dirty work, and as it happens, the afgans give choice minirals rights to china – a slap on our face. bring our troops home now. that is better for our men and families – and best economically for the USA.
You all know that this is a sham right? So in order for pak to rekindle their terrorist love interests they need to cut ties with US and NATO. So if you read about the incident, US and NATO was taking fire from paks and NATO called the pak army post and asked if there were paks operating in the area. The pak army said that there were no pak soldiers that were in the area. So those 24 soldiers were firing at US and NATO troops operating in that area and the pak army said its not their guys. We aniliated them. You all know that pak did sacrifice those soldiers so they could create this situation to make reason to break the relations between US and NATO so they can get back in bed with terrorists. Of course this is what really happened. It's what I will believe and is the only thing that makes since to me.
You all know that this is a sham right? So in order for pak to rekindle their terrorist love interests they need to cut ties with US and NATO. So if you read about the incident, US and NATO was taking fire from paks and NATO called the pak army post and asked if there were paks operating in the area. The pak army said that there were no pak soldiers that were in the area. So those 24 soldiers were firing at US and NATO troops operating in that area and the pak army said its not their guys. We aniliated them. You all know that pak did sacrifice those soldiers so they could create this situation to make reason to break the relations between US and NATO so they can get back in bed with terrorists. Of course this is what really happened. It's what I will believe and is the only thing that makes since to me. It would be consistent with Paki actions.
Ameripride you are just a imposter, you are an INDIAN and should get back to your cab.
Whether Ameripride is Indian, American or whatever doesn't matter. What matters is that he is probably right.
You better take care of your cab. Why Indians raised and trained LTTE? Who is responsible for 80,000 deaths in Sri lankan Civil war? While polishing your cab do think over it. And wait a minute, also think of 300 million dalits ensalved for centuries in India. There number is bigger than pakistan and Afghanistan combined. So better think of your backyard before commenting on Pakistan. WSe will take care of whatever comes our way.
It was an unwise decision by Pakistan to work with US to go against taliban malitarily. By killing thousands of people in Afkhanistan and Pakistan (mostly the innocents), this anti-terrorism policy is generating more jihadist out of hatred then killing them. US in its arrogance does not understand the repurcusion of it. After sacrificises of almost 32000 civilians, 5000 army personnels and 70 billion dollars losses in the economy, Pakistan is rewarded by more than 400 drone attacks by US and nato forces. Shame on them. Without mthe help of Pakistan, the US cannot make any progress. US policies are based on selfishness, stubborness and hatred that are not doing anything good for the country. If Us wants to be out of the mess in Afghanistan, then it has to work with Pakistan in good faith otherwise they are in making of another history like Vietnam war. As far as Pakistan is concerned, they should realise that supporting america is not in its national interest and if they have to then do it on its own terms.
Well said Syed !
It is nor Pakistan that everytime begs for the money and help from America but it was always America looking and begging anf them forcing Pakistan to help and then work according to its agenda.It happened everytime in the history and unfortunately through our dictators ,American successive governments have successively exploited Pakistan health and wealth.In a democratic Muslim world Americans would not find a single friend. Gone are the days when good friends o America like Shah of Iran,Hosni Mubarak and the military junta were working with CIA and torturing their own people. .Very soon rest of the American puppets like King of Jordan and Sauds will be gone and we will have more just and free countries working for for the welfare and betterment of their own people.
The only blunder Pakistanis did was tolerating their dictators who on and on worked with the consective American agenda and brought misery on to their people.
CNN: Please rethink before you allow to use your platform by someone that spreads Indian propoganda. Fareed is of Indian origin and will always be against Pakistan. Please have a neutral writer comment on such subjects to be fair.
Hi Like Fareed Zakariya but I have found that his analysis of Pakistan is generally biased, most probably because of his Indian origins. This time he is right though. US really need to cut it's ties with Pakistan military and help civilians strenghten the civil society. The anti-US sentiment is actually because of US support to dictators and alleged CIA role in hanging of Z.A.Bhutto. Father of Benazir Bhutto was the most popular leader among masses and US was involved in his eradication( according to general perception). So, how can people cozy up with US. Then every single dictator in Pakistan was supported by US, for whatever reason. US supported General Zia and Zia was busy in implementing strict Sharia, where people were tortured in public. It was all done when US was pumping money to Zia regime. How can people in Pakistan not have a anti-American sentiment???
Paky the Donkey;
Don't you know there are Muslim terrorist cells in Canada??? These are professionals from Bosinia, Albania, Turkish, Pakistani,etc. They have positions like; Police Officers, Doctors, etc.
...if they got opportunity, they will glow and visible for Americans.
Don't ever think you are wealthy or professional and unnoticed. We know your plan. Dam Persian!!!!
LEOFAST please rethink letting yourself write comments. You're probably of Pakistani origin and will always have a negative bias to India, the west, and generally anything.
Pakistanis are not that negative. Here is an example. cricket runs in blood here in subcontinent.
In 1996 Sri Lankans were winning a world cup semi final against India at Colcatta. Indians could not bear it. The crowd turned violent, match ended and was awarded to Sri lankans. Well done Indians.
In 1987 Pakistanis saw Pakistan loosing a semi final of cricket world cup to Australia, the match continued peacefully and ended. not even a single stone thrown into thr ground.
Who is negative minded?
@Sohaib: Do you remember how the same Sri Lankan cricket team were bombed in Lahore in March 2009? Funny, you used Sri Lankan cricketers as an example.
It is not without reason that no international team wants to tour Pakistan anymore. Such a peaceful and non-violent country.
There is clear difference between the two cases. Terror groups are a reality in Pakistan. We admit it as a drawback here. we have extremist groups, those attacked Sri Lankan team were caught and punished. What amazes me regarding Indians is not admitting their own mistakes. You will never admit that throwing stones at winning Sri Lankan team right inside the ground while thw whole world is watching is wrong. This amazes me a lot. I dont know how can someone defend this
People built fallout shelters back during the cold war. We didn't need them then and we don't need them now..
To "Oh, Really": That kind of gung-ho show of bravado is what got us into Iraq. As tempting as it may be, if we coolly abandon them as an ally in any way, we will, as you say, possibly need fallout shelters. Do you WANT to live in a fallout shelter, or would you try to keep up diplomatic relations any way you could?
Pakistan is definitely frustrating, because their country is obviously infested with al Qaeda, and I don't know how in denial they are about it or what they intend to do about it, but we need to work with them. If we leave an infestation alone, it'll just become a much bigger problem later, like you said, right?
I say, we need to remind them that money is not free, and if we are going to supply them with over a quarter of their budget, they must 1. recognize, if they haven't already, that al Qaeda has somehow infested their country, quite possibly in their government, and 2. take full part, in any way they can, of rooting it out immediately.
Oh Yeah! What else one may expect from a nation who lives within the realms of a FM Station? The misplaced impression that People of the United States are providing aid of 2 Billion USD every year is absolutely wrong. If you want to know the facts, ask your own Government about ACTUAL disbursements by the US Government to the Government of Pakistan. You will be utterly surprised for sure!!! So much for media "preceptions" and not "facts". This is what innocent people of United States are fed with by the Media controlled by vested interest groups.
US was the biggest enemy of Pakistan and the ‘traitors’ among our political and military leaderships were responsible for such attacks since they had been strengthening NATO forces by allowing them vital supplies from the Pakistani soil and emboldening them to make such attacks by merely condemning and protesting on their previous attacks.
killing of our every single soldier value as much to us as killing of your head of the state would value to you .
secondly ... if more supply routes are available for transportation to NATO then why are they transporting goods from here?
pakistan is on the right path of democracy , but even now the same is pinching you people. why don't you people leave us. If we survived the sanctions of USA and all the western countries after Nuclear Tests , we would survive further also. Don't become contractors of peace and democracy here. We being from pakistan better know who is our friend and foe , we know what is war and outcome of war and afghan refuges , we also know what to do in the hour of crises , we will take care of ourselves , please leave us alone . but remember war of independence / struggle for once rights / struggle for survival is always termed by the opposing side as Terrorism. " Tomorrow we would love to be such Terrorists if any one dare looking towards our motherland with dirty eyes". Go ahead .... you people have already failed in afghanistan badly , if you can win against a Nuclear power do try your Luck, but if you people fail here also then what is next ? don't try to make paksitan as an escape goat.
It is not USA's last campaign in south asia , we also house Iran and China in our neighborhood. ultimately you will have to come back sooner or later , but the difference between today and tomorrow will be (if the same Laval of trust and honor will remain) ; that , today you have pakistan on your side, tomorrow you might not find it with you..... we are not gonna come and fight some one in your neighborhood , it is you who are doing so and also planning to do the same in future as will. Mr Zakaria you are so much biased, i never thought of. You might have millions of people watching your shows , but i being your regular viewer/reader you lost one. just keep selling your own generated truths to innocent Tex payers of USA about pakistan. But its too much funny for the one who spent his childhood in the streets of pakistan and still lives here in pakistan (being class fellow of few afghan refugee brothers and village/city mate of more then 100 afghan families) to listen to your such fake and biased analysis and so called truth about Pakistan.
But why pakistan or say pakistani terrorists are not leaving other countries alone? Don't expect your home to be neat and clean while destroying other homes. Its not I support what happening with pakistan but put yourself in mumbai massacre or sept 11 attacks and think what should those countries do?
Americans should learn by now that killing innoscent people with brutality continuing the drones and filling pockets of unethical politician of american standard will earn them friends in Pakistan they are sadly mistaken , Friends with benefit is an american terms friends with morals is what Pakistani people are looking for and America is far from a morally correct nation in my opinion they are the biggest terrorist in the world they have killed hundreds of thousands of people and expect the masses to love them because they filled the pockets of politicians and army generals ,, they have involved Pakistan in a war that does not belong to them I LOVE TO SEE A WAR FOUGHT ON AN AMERICAN SOIL AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW AMERCAN PEOPLE REACT IF THEY LOOSE INNOSCENT AMERICANS DIE FOR NO FAULT OF THERE OWN AMERICAN STARTED THIS WAR BY LOOSING THREE THOUSAND PEOPLE AND HAVE KILLED OVER THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE SO FAR AND THEY EXPECT MORE THAN 12% PEOPLE TO LOVE THEM THEY GOTTA TO GET OUT OF DREAM WORLD AND PACK UP THERE BAGS AND GO HOME LEAVE AFGHANISTAN PAKISTA IRAQ AND STOP BULLYING IRAN IHOPE THEY MAKE A MISTAKE OF ATTACKING IRAN AND PREY TO GOD THAT IRAN TEACHES THEM A LESSON SO THEY NEVER GO AFTER INNOSCENT PEOPLE EVER AGAIN BOO ON AMERICA TO PICK A FIGHT ON COUNTRIES WHO ARE FULL OF MORALS ETHICS AND CULTURE AND USING THERE MEDIA TO TURN THE TABLE ...
A question: the video of "Fareed's Take" on Pakistan (12/4/2011) showed two separate images of men marching alone. They were both very stylized and dramatic. From what country? What is their role in that country? Who/what are they? Thank you.
The images you saw was from the border crossing between Pakistan and India. They conduct a ceremony when they open and close the gates (they don't have many border crossings). Lot of people show up to see it, well on the Indian side anyway. Due to the nature of their relations they tend to make a big deal out of it.
Thank you for the nformaton.
Yes, that's the Wagah Border Ceremony and you can find it on youtube. There's a lot of stomping, mustache twirling, and chicken head shaking when the close the borders for the day, and lower the flags. There's flag waving and chanting on both sides in the crowd. It's stupid and out of order but it's been pumped up to be such a big dramatic showdown everyday, both by the media and the govt.
Thanks. I look forwardto the Youube videos.
He is an Indian. Hence biased. Pls do us a favor and stop the US aid. And you will see where you stand......
Stopping aid to Pak is not enough. For us to be safe, we need Pakistanis to be prosperous. That means Pak needs to be broken up.
Thank you for exposing your prejudice against Pakistan, and that is probably why they need a strong army. You Indians have already tried to break Pakistan since its inception, so don't complain if Pakistan tries to defend itself.
Breaking a nuclear power have you gone mad and what will happen later can anyone predict?
Actually that is a good suggestion if you break balochistan from pakistan then afganistan can be easily supplied using the balochistani ports.
Pakistan comes later. I think as a correction to history, firstly Ireland should be separated from Engalnd, thereafter, North and South USA should be separated. (remember civil war and march of fire??). I assure you most of the problems of the world would disappear
You will be found standing on the traffic light next to your home if the US aid ever stopped.
Stop it right now and see
This might come as a surprise but the amount of aid that Pakistan gets is less than the amount it loses in continuing its war.
On a side note, however, i find it interesting that the lot of you are yapping about stuff without the slightest clue about actual stats about this war. My advise is to stop using television as your sole source of information about global politics.
Half the "Aid" winds up in the Swiss bank accounts of the Generals and the rest is used to buy US made wepaons to be used against Afgans and Indians. Cutting off the aid will bring peace to the area. EFF pakis.
Then why don't you return the american aid back($20 billion dollars) . Then americans can use it for its economic prosperity. Can you pakistanis force or start a movement against govt to return back money so that you people are not obligated to anything and you can do whatever you want. Then americans cannot force you anything as you were asking. Is the deal OK?
American is using our country for long time and they are paying that Aid to save there own ass. Pakistan Army is on number 5 in the ranking. now one will put there hands on pakistan. they all know that we pakistani we Stand and Fight together and we win or Die Together. Proud to be pakistani and a Muslim.
Agree!
Indians are small and inferior in every sense. The only way they know how to compete is by hiding behind the American Corporations and Goverment?
Looking for comments on Iran. Your experts are so wrong and unaware of the country and its people.
Any attack willonly fortify the regieme..and until we understand that,we will continue to beat a pathe to war.
I just returned from one of my cultural tours to Iran and every one of the Iraniasn I spoke with could not understand why the US supports nuclear wapons in coutnries surrounding Iran yet wants to destroy nuclear facilities that may or may not be involved in weapons.
We just send fighter planes to Israle in addition to the undreds of missles they admit tohaving ,yet we see nothing wrong with Israel attacking Iran ,in case they develop one missle...this is lunacy.
Maybe Iran should stop calling for the destruction of Israel. ever take that into consideration? any countries calling for destruction of Iran? Any other theocracies in the area sponsoring martyrs? Are you one of the promised virgins?
Rick dont be a Dick......Talking about Iran? what about Isreal and Pelistian. what Isreal doing to them. Same thing Iran thinking about doing it. That should be done. that will be done.
The Author has started the journey but not reached its logical conclusion. The Pakistani State is an historical injustice imposed on its peoples by a mercantilist imperialist power held together by brutal military force. Until there are free and independent Baluchistan, Pushtunistan and Sind, there will be no peace or prosperity. The only way to bring peace and prosperity to the millions in Pakistan is to manage the transition of the provinces into free independent nations. That should be the single, unifying goal of international strategy in AfPak.
This is the dream of all stupid enemies of Pakistan your an Indian pretending to be an American but let me tell you keep dreaming as all Pakistani are loyal to the country and united against the common enemies of Pakistan.
I'm the Indian for sure, and what your saying ratee is false. Not only is Pakistan divided along ethnic lines, but also religious lines. Sikhs, Hindus, Christians, Ahmadi's and other smaller tribal communities are killed with almost complete impunity. I don't have any opinion on dividing Pakistan or not, my only hope is they stay out of Kashmir.
Abhishek – the majority of killings in pakistan is going on betwwen Shia & Sunnis. Other groups you mentioned stands no chance.
Abhishek, any comments on the divisions of India? How many different religions and groups are there? Have you ever seen such a large killings in Pakistan based on religion names as India have demonstrated.. .killing Muslims, Christians, Tamils, and so on... and what about Indian's role in Kashmir, why won't you let Kashmir an independent state.
Yes, Pakistan experienced bombings mostly supported by India via Afghanistan. There are proves.
I guess, we can't divide or break countries based on these facts.
Lets be truthful.
hahaa...
Have u gone mad, bombings in Pakistan via Afghanistan by India? Stop reading propaganda books....
Stop bringing Kashmir and India, when Pakistan's problems are discussed. Its not abt. India vs. Pakistan. Its civilian problems lies beyond any borders.
Wrong. India is a peaceful democracy,and minorities are treated with respect. In fact, Indian muslims are the most prosperous, literate, and free, compared with muslims elsewhere.
how about balkanization of Pakistan. the Baluchi are fighting for freedom anyway, with thousands killed in genocide that the western media is overlooking, the Sindhi want out, the Patans think of themselves as afghans. this is the Punjabi army boot over the others.
You agree that the nuclear weapons are in the right hands. OK, good that you know this.
You should also know that the benifit of this friend (Pakistan) you already reaped by dismembering USSR. Never Forget.
You know that Pakistan will be willing to agree with US policy in case, you (US) will look after Pakistan's interest of resolving Kashmir Issue asp per the democratic manner which is according to the wishes of People Of Kashmir.
Is the above not Fair, Normal, and Justified ? Npow please re-write your new article in accordance with the Facts. Thanks
Disappointing and biased views which lack depth of knowledge...The Author tries to paint a very simple picture and puts all blame on Pakistan when truly the US is to blame for all the problems it faces...The reality is without Pak help US cannot save its troops stationed in Afghanistan..If US think with 20 Billion it can buy Pakistani interests..its grossly mistaken. Like US Pakistan has also got national interests to take care of and it cannot make everybody an enemy..the time has come when US should spend billions on the economic welfare of its own people rather than wasting in aimless wars and stupid military interventions.. As far as Pakistan is concerned..its a very strong country and can take care of its own interests...If US wants our help..it has a cost...
You want "cost" for fighting terrorists in your country that bomb and kill innocent people around the world? SHAME ON YOU AND YOUR COUNTRYMEN. Why was that mass murderer Osama found hiding in your country? Come on, the world is waiting for an answer.
Dont you get it. there was no Osama. that is what they said to save US ass. Osama was a myth buy Bush. Which Obama completed it. so that chapter can be closed. you Stupid americans still think Osama was real. first figure this puzzel out that think about invading others.
I think the "cost" point was made and we've decided that the damaged goods are not worth the price.
Fareed Z. is obsessed with Pakistan and Iran.
Oh yes. Indians have not accepted Pakistan and all their nationalist leaders have vowed to harm the integrity and compromise the sovereignty of Pakistan. They even succeeded in cleverly dividing Pakistan.
But now, Pakistan is a nuclear capable country. We can defend our borders very well. If any large, lost crocodile from thousands of miles away, thinks he can tear a chunk out of us and stay alive, it is very much mistaken. No country, no group of countries should have any misguided notions about it.
Pakistan is a peaceful country. Jihad will continue until oppression from foreign invaders continues. Be they US/NATO in Afghanistan, or India occupying Kashmir. And unlike Palestinians, who you can shoot like fish in a barrel, we effectively fight back.
Pakistan should discontinue aid from the US and give it a big F.U for the peanuts it has dropped in our lap. Moreover, our backs are bruised and battered with US knives. China and Russia will prove to be more reliable partners. After we kick Americans out of our region, making sure you have more body bags to take home, we'll straighten out India in good time.
Keep on dreaming. Pakistan airspace defense is a joke. US can take out any target with impunity. Just wait for the next generation of UAV with nuclear warheads and stealth. UAV will hover Pakistan airspace 24/7.
If you compare Israel technology over Palestinian with US, you are badly unestimating US nuclear option. Imagine Pakistan destroyed with at least few thousand thermal nuclear warheads... Israel fire power is not comparable to US fire power...
India's firepower is not comparable to either of those two nations.........it's abysmal to say the least.
No idea???
The new U.S.A high tech Ten Years old, proofed to freeze Nuclear Reactions and its fuel pump. Means, Pakistan Nuclear has 0% chance to be harmful.
You are Mistaken here. you think those UVA planes will be there for long. hell no pakistan will shoot them down and will come up with better technology. just remember we got Nukes. Pakistani fingers are itchy fingers.
@Adnan "we'll straighten out India in good time" : Have you no shame left, Adnan? After losing every single war with India, you have the gall to say that? Did they not teach you in your madrasah classes how India broke Pakistan into two, created Bangladesh and left Pakistan with half of its former size? After that kind of humiliating defeat, a little bit of humbleness would be nice on your part. Your entire country is only as big as some states within India – you are a joke in the world community.
Nonsense, 1948 was a Pakistani victory, as more than a third of Kashmir was liberated, and to this day is still under Pakistani control. 1965 ended as a stalemate, the Indians desperately tried and failed to take Sialkot, and Lahore, the Indian Airforce was given a harsh and severe lesson. 1971 was a blessing in disguise, A skeleton force of 90000 conscripts were stationed in East Pakistan, and a small number of fighter jets, Bengalis wanted their own state, and with Indian assistance achieved their goal, Pakistans main objective was to safeguard the western front, and that was done effectively.
@ozman: Only a dyed-in-the-wool Pakistani can say after losing half of his country (1971) that it was a "blessing in disguise".
Say that again when you lose half of what you have now. Keep spinning.
Bengal was a burden on Pakistan!.
But so is Balochistan and Pak-Occupied-Kashmir on Pakistan.
@ozman: You liberated 1/3rd kashmir??? Oh so creating terrorists and destroying the lives of young men by teaching them hatred and violence is liberation?? You guys are gr8 people. All pakistan needs to do is destroy terror camps and focus it's energies on creating an economically sound pakistan. If people are happy economically, they will not believe in ur conspiracy theories of india israel USA. The problem is u continuously believe in hatred and are full of jealousy. And i can tell you that as far as muslims are concerned, they are living far more happily in India than in gujarat.
We want peace with pakistan, but pakistan wants nuclear bombs, killing innocents in both india and pakistan, destruction of afghanistan, extremism and everything else to do with violence and hatred. If u have such noble thoughts then u better be contained by the evil forces of peace, goodwill and secularism
TOTALLY useless non-sense article. Pakistani's are against US policies, not US. US people needs to understand that these deceptive media channels and its anchors create wars in other countries through their deceptive techniques. And this man is one of them.
Agree... Fareed Z spews the CIA's foreign policy propaganda in a not so clandestine way. He's been brainwashed. Probably gets his directions via cellular.
it is now clear: you dont just hate Jews, you hate anyone that opposes your Palestinian credO: "woe is me, everyone is against us. we didnt do anything wrong. the west just hates Muslims." Correct me if I'm wrong, I think fareed is a muslim
KikikikikinkinkiCainComin,
Your terrorist cells got broken and crashed. Now, you feel lonely and sad. That's way you keep burning. Eat your heart out.
Silly jahill Afghan khar, go take your medicine, you are just jealous of Pakistan.
Farid is openly anti Pakistan and CNN should be ashamed of placing a senior fellow and not even monitor his bias towards Pakistan, this is BS.
Don't AGREE with even a word of this article. BIASED article.
How is this biased? He makes some very good points. We send them a billion dollars a year and they hide Osama Bin Laden? They knew he was there by the way. These guys are snakes.
Fareed like any Indian has always spoken against Pakistan. He has got a deep seeded hatred againt Pakistan that is so prevalent in many Indians and Pakistanis alike.
Yeah, and the Indians are far from alone. Most non-third-world countries would like to see Pakistan disappear – and rightfully so.
None of the Muslim world, along with China and many other states want to see Pakistan threatened, if anything people in the west see Indians as greedy slave labourers, working for peanuts to feed their impoverished families, and depriving Brits and Americans of jobs.
and they think of Pakistani's very highly i guess. is that the reason we see so many Pakistani's as taxi drivers in the UK and New york.
I am 200% agreed with fareed's analysis.
I am 100% agree? lol go back to India dude.
Yeah, coz you unless you speak perfect english you need to go back to your home country. Makes complete sense. Especially since the premise of the reply is based on the notion that internet is only available outside his home country. I applaud your near-genius IQ
Typically Indian, this fellow tries to give the impression, he is acting or behaving in a neutral or pro American way, but unfortunately his Indian roots come through, when he talks about Pakistan. His comments or viewpoint about Pakistan, cannot and should not be taken seriously. CNN should have thought about this.
Hey buddy, here's a news-flash: most people in US think have the same exact opinions about Pakistan. It is a pariah country and there just isn't much love left for your ilk in the Western hemisphere. That Fareed Zakaria is of Indian origin is irrelevant to most Americans except for the few Pakistanis who seem to suffer hemorrhoid flares every time he says anything.
American's also know that without Pakistani assistance, Nothing can be achieved in Afghanistan,
@ozman: That's right. Especially when you count terrorism as "achievements".
The British Empire, the mighty USSR, tried and failed to defeat and subdue the Afghani people. The Soviets were forced to retreat with covert support from Pakistan, the Americans and oil rich Arab states. The Americans are now in a quagmire, the NATO countries want out. The Indians are foolishly pumping $1.5bn worth of aid annually. The puppet Afghan government controls only Kabul, ultimately the Afghani people are proud Muslims and would never accept India as a true friend, they have kinship in Pakistan, and when the dust settles, Afghanistan will become a Pakistani ally once again. The Americans know this.
@ozman: "The Indians are foolishly pumping $1.5bn worth of aid annually." – that I agree. No amount of money can repair that country (Afghanistan).
He seemed biased to you because news is against pakistan. But it doesnot seem to be biased to Indians, americans and other countries as this is what those countries see. If you think pakistan is not as said in the news, prove it. Try to eradicate the terrorists organizations "you"(thats what we are thinking, may be we are wrong) have developed. If you do so, why don't every country support you? Don't say you are in process of eradicating because we still see videos of militant organizations who inject unwanted hatred over indians, us and other west countries.
Fareed brings a refreshing perspective with his interviews and his coverage of Iran, Pakistan and other ME/South Asia is a breath of fresh air. Today's talk on Pakistan's military incubating hatred and poison forces us to think of lessening our dependency on Pakistan. Here is one food for thought.
1) Americans find themselves held in a hostage-like situation by Pakistan with over 100K soldiers in landlocked Afghanistan, dependent upon the extortionist mercy of the Pakistan army. The entire GOTUS/Pentagon/CIA/Stink tanks plead helplessly for continuation of this abusive relationship citing availability of no other better alternatives. Pakistan must be engaged, the reasoning goes, because they provide the logistical lifeline to our soldiers in Afghanistan no matter Pak Army kills our soldiers in the process. Things are changing though, we delude ourselves, with 70 percent supply now planned to be rerouted from the north of Afghanistan, and depending on Pakistan for only the remaining 30%. Humbug!
2) The entire Pakistani chutzpah is built around this carefully cultivated "strategically located" country paradigm. A relic of British thinking, Americans have bought this line over the last sixty years subsidizing it with over quarter of PakMil’s annual budget. Take away this location, location, location leverage, and Pakistan's value to incubate terrorism worldwide.
3) The challenge is how we can use India to help us wean away from Pakistan's machinations. Here's how.
a) India should facilitate and arrange a four-way relationship between the USA, Afghanistan, India and IRAN (yes Iran!), to create a new supply line to Afghanistan, bypassing Pakistan completely.
b) India has excellent relationship with all three countries and is uniquely qualified to bring about a rapprochement between the USA and Iran. Concessions from both sides will be required; Iran to reduce its support to anti-Israel groups in the ME, working on nuclear issues; the USA to reduce alleged assistance to Jundullah and working to improve relations with Iran.
c) The key to start engaging with Iran is an alternate transportation link from Iran into Afghanistan. The Zaranj-Delarm road, on the main Herat-Kandahar Highway is key. Existing U.N. rules governing transportation of goods for landlocked countries provides international legal cover to all parties.
d) Since Iran may not allow visible, direct U.S. warships/assets into Iranian territory, India to undertake all TDL (transportation, distribution and logistics) responsibility from Chabahar seaport in Iran right upto the Afghan/Iran border to Zaranj. Afghan/U.S. troops to take on responsibility from Zanjar – Delarm highway within Afghanistan.
e) President Karzai would welcome this initiative. He has just thrown out Gilani/Pakistan as someone he can discuss peace and has offered a "strategic" relationship with India. Americans must stop demonizing Karzai. U.S. media has spent the last few years unnecessarily demonizing Karzai as a corrupt to a mentally deranged person without acknowledging that it is we who had bludgeoned him into silence from criticizing our so called non-nato ally Pakistan all these years. Immediately after Mullen's statements, Afghan govt. is now openly accuses Pakistan of terrorism in their country.
f) This proactive Indian initiative can also bring about greater stability in South Asia and the larger ME. Win-win for all the four countries, Afghanistan, India, Iran and the USA while lessening our dependency on Pakistan’s ability to extort billions of U.S. dollars, which they turn around and use to kill Americans anyway.
Geography and Geo-political situation cannot be changed according to the needs of India though all the writers are Indians with all the biases.
Well this is the reason USA is still working with Pakistan as they also cannot change geography as Afghanistan is a land locked country with no other practical options.
Sinha? sounds like an Indian name. Your argument is hardly intellectual. You are just conceiling your bias towards Pakistan in some sort of amateurish academic thesis.
Jager...
Need to change your handle Paki. You may get in deep trouble with the Imams for associating yourself with an alcoholic beverage.
... more stupid rhetoric that misses the point. Let me help you out by providing a simpler alternative that takes fewer words: BRING OUR TROOPS HOME AND GET THE H*LL OUT! WE DON'T NEED TO BE PLAYING IN THEIR SANDBOX. WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS HERE AT HOME.
...let me help you out...that with LATEX GLOVES. There weren't foot Petrol Chu Chinese there. So, why worry????
where exactly is your Home. it appears from most of your comments that your home is either or Iran or Gaza. by the way, caps indicate hysteria. Try to calm down.
You obviously agree, you are a Indian and Fareed is an Indian.... therefore your opinion does not count.
Oh, Paki please! And why should your opinion count?
By the way, did you notice that Fareed is Muslim just like you?
Paky the Donkey, take your Medicine on time, before you eat your pork kebab. Oh, at least, pig has better Mind than you. You should be eaten by pig, instead.
Paky, Donkey, stinky.
Paky, Donkey, stinky.
A thought-provoking article by Mr. Zakaria. However, there are some that still believe that the US needs to be engaged with Pakistan.
It is high time that we state the truth about aid to Pakistan. The real reason that the US is providing aid to Pakistan is to keep the military cartel (generals and retired generals) in Pakistan from pimping nuclear weapons to terrorists all over the world. The question is how long can the US keep paying protection money to the military cartel?
For almost 30 years China and the US were outright foes with no diplomatic between the two. China had nuclear weapons since 1964. No country had to pay China to keep it from sharing or selling nuclear technology; there was no need to “keep engaged” with Communist China (there was a policy change with Henry Kissinger’s trip to Beijing in 1971).
What’s going on with Pakistan is simply extortion; extortion of the same kind that occurs in the city of Karachi everyday, but on a grand scale and on an international level that is beyond the imagination of James Bond movies.
Well if its extortion of this scale why does America not leave the area? Are other countries like Afghanistan, India or even USA saints ?
USA tells all other countries to follow rules what rules it follows in international relations have you analyzed that?
The US will leave in 2014. RATEE needs to remember that the reason for the US invasion of Afghanistan was to bring to justice the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 attacks. bin Laden has been eliminated; al-Zawahiri and others are still absconding probably sitting around in some Pakistani military barracks.
Yes, U.S. is your boss till the end of the World. What you gone do? Eat your heart out. Paky the Donkey!!!
Shut up no Money!!!
Yeah but in your example you forget who brought China and US to the table and mediated a diplomatic relationship? It was Pakistan. Do some reading.
The so called 'aid' to Pakistan is more bribery to the corrupt officials to align Pakistani policy with American policy rather than actual help to the common man. The common Pakistani would not be bothered one bit if the aid was lifted, in fact if the US stopped giving aid to Pakistan it would probably strengthen Pakistan and make it stand on its own feet.
Take it from someone who has been researching Pakistan for 30 years now.
Stupid Indian hindu, stop using Muslim names, who do you think you are fooling?
I am a US citizen just like Fareed Zakaria. I have never been to India; Zakaria was born in India.
What Pakistan needs is a Socialist Revolution and a government that will not cater to the whims of the right-wing thugs in Washington. Furthermore, the Pakistanis need to rid themselves of their dangerous dependence on U.S. foreign aid and set up a program for agrarian reform and somehow make peace with the Taliban. It's far better for a few bigwhigs in Washington to be upset than a lot more people being needlessly dead!
Yes your right and the time for that revolution will come to pass very soon or all the top of line rulers will fall like nine pins.
Glad to see that Captain Obvious is still working for CNN. Just for the record, the Pope is Catholic and Hitler was a really bad man.
What I really don't understand is why anybody with a mind of their own cares one way or the other what this or any other talking head on some news channel has to say about ANYTHING?
I'm sure that what he says is true, but doesn't everybody already know this stuff? You'd have to be living in a cave somewhere not to be aware of this.
What Indans need is some confidence and self belief as well as growth in their testestrone region?
In which Mr. Z once again proves that he has no brains and hasn't gotten to the Wizard to ask for some.
... it's because Mr. Z has been hanging out with the pre-emtive strike Zionists at CNN for too long... he has lost perspective
ah, CNN is at fault for all the Muslim troubles! "oh, woe is me" said the palestinian. we are just the victims. everyone is picking on us!
The Iranian policy isn't working either.
So people complain that we give Israel a paltry 3B a year, and they help us in the region. Meanwhile, we give countries who hate us 20B per year and what do we get? They close the border after a NATO strike which was their fault. I say cut all funding to countries who have a negative view of us in the overwhelming majority. You don't like us? Fine. We'll keep our 20B thanks very much.
Dude keep you numbers and fact straight.. 20 B in 10 years. you used pakistani Soul for 10 years. that was not for Free. so grow up.
So where is this $20B, Paki? In the Swiss accounts of your Generals and kicked back to US Defense contractors that's where. This "AID" money is just robbing the US taxpayer to line the pockets of blood suckers. You dumb Jihadis are being used to keep the Military Industrial budgets flush with Cash. Once we tire of you, we will move on to Iran, North Korea, and China...
"When Washington props up a dictatorship because it needs foreign policy support, it is building up wellsprings of poison and anti-Americanism within society that could one day erupt, Fareed Zakaria says."
And even whne it does not, it will still be building the same wellsprings of poison and anti-Americanism
THIS IS CONSISTENTLY THE WORST WRITING, WEAKEST THINKING OF ALL ONLINE PUNDITS
Absolutely !
keep your stinking money with you, leave us alone.
times have changed, US is no longer super power, all you are left with are empty threats and F-16's that u can't sell
hahaha
US dollars start to stink when you uncouth ***holes touch it with the left middle finger. What did you use it for today?
Zakaria is wrong because only God can make a Muslim country like Pakistan democratic.Just look at how the Islamists are sweeping the election in Egypt and making a mockery of the Arab Spring..America has to work with the existing scheme of things.It is idiotic to imagine it could trsform other socities into havens of freedom and democracy.
Fareed..... keep licking their feet to feed your family
I haven't even read the comments, but I'm sure that most of them will be Pakistanis and Indians bickering with eachother.
Sad.
The last paragraph of this article is pretty much what Ron Paul has been saying all along. Of course, when he says it, it suddenly becomes a crazy far right conspiracy theory. CrAaAaAzy old Ron Paul, blabbering on about how forcing military dictatorships on the people of other countries might just make them a wee bit angry, what a kook, am I right?
it's journalists who are to blame... CNN destroyed Ron Paul even though he speaks the Truth...
Oh, so its not just the jews, the west, the Israelis, the Hindus or anyone else that picks on the poor Palestinians and muslims, Its also the Journalists. And your answer is to suggest that the citizens of the US cast their votes for an isolationist so that the arab countries can attack Israel without worrying about US intervention! very sly and now I'm more convinced than ever that you are writing this from GAZA> You really are disingenuous
Washington's policy never worked, is not working n it will never b working, unless USAss war criminals, state sponsor terrorist thugs so called lawmakers stop sending their state sponsor terrorist thugs n spreading their terrorist activities, not only Pakistan all Muslim countries land, they must stop destruction, killing, torturing, kidnaping, abducting, intimidate, threat, instigating, fabricating, provocating, propagating against peaceful Islam n their beloved peaceful followers Muslim. Pakistan should have kicked all the foreign Terrorist organisation i.e NATO (nonbelievers alliance terrorist organisation), ISAF (international systematic alliance firing squad) n all state sponsor terrorist thugs, long time ago. http://www.ifamericansonlyknew.org http://www.gainpeace.com
... many Americans agree with you. our CIA has become a disgusting influence in the world, especially via the Israeli terrorists...
as usual, blame the Us or the israelis for the problems of the poor Palestinians/muslims. The Palestinian credo: "Oh, woe is me. its not us, its the US, The West. the Jews. Oh, woe is me. why do I have to live in a refugee camp, when 70 years have passed and i am no longer a refugee, just an angry muslim"?
... it's no wonder that other countries hate us so much... America has become disingenuous.
do you know what "disingenuous" means? You are full of opinions but empty on facts. All form, no substance. .
Agree with the article's premise. However, "...the only way to get real cooperation is by helping Pakistan move from being a military state to a more normal country." is easier said than done. It's an open secret that Pakistan's civilian government is weak and is controlled to a large extent by the military. No solution will be pain-free, but cutting off military aid will at least send a message to the generals that the days of easy money (as under Bush) is over.
The only thoughful Indian is a deceased indian.
Hater. We don't want to hear your dinner time hate filled stories here on CNN.
You are sick krm 1007,you need bleesings and god have mercy on you..............amen
! Burned Indian!
weird. i was just listening to Obama tell us how he has restored America's image. and now he's alienating a nuclear power that has received billions of U.S. aid over the years. forgive me if i don't celebrate.
... the big problem here is the "unmentionable"... and that is that we created our own enemies by blindly supporting the Israeli Terrorist state. We never should have let Israel become our "ally"... they make our world less safe, they leech and we get nothing in return. The problem is AIPAC and spineless politicians.
you have convinced me . You are writing from a Palestinian script in a basement in ramallah. You apparently have been instructed to write anti Israel, anti jewish, anti west and pro palestinian propaganda in a comment to every article that concerns any Muslim issue, even when the article has nothing to do with Israel. Your credo is so clearly palestinian: "Woe is me, the jews are to blame for all the troubles in all the Muslim countries. Not just the middle east but also pakistan. . Israel is to blame for all the unrest in all the arab countries and Libya, Syria and Egypt are caused by the jews. the West, Zionists, AIPAC and the muslims are just the victims. Oh, woe is me, Israel is so mean!" Do you think cchu aka Cassandra chu that you have any credibility . You never provide substance, only vile rhetoric right out of the Palestinian schoolbooks that call for the killing of Jews.
Agreed. It is rather like sleeping with the enemy and getting nothing in return but a swift kick out of bed....unfulfilled and out of cash.
Pakistan is a stupid country. Theres nothing there. They have an inferiority complex as India is a better country. They watch all the indian movies and act as they though they are their people. They have no education and is a poor devastated country. Anytime a Paki speaks and topic of India comes they will same India and pak are the same. These stupids dont even understand this. Pak is an evil snake and its head needs to be cut off. One day they will crumble as you can see nowitself its a failed state. where is their Allah to bring prosperity. They keep praying all the time mired in their ignorance and stupidity
i wouldn't even have an Indian polish my shoes
Don't worry yourself to death about that happening anytime soon.
BTW, do you wear shoes?
I bet 99% of people writing comments are Indians with their fake American names just like they have outsourced customer services run by Indians with fake American names and I am not making it up. This is true.
Fareed Zakaria is an Indian so what do you expect from this guy write good things about Pakistan? are you kidding me?
This is total nonsense articles which have no truth behind just make Pakistan look bad.
You mean fake English names, American's speak English, the language of Great Britain, their father nation.
What exactly is the point of having an ally like Pakistan? Pakistan is double dealing us and although I understand they have their own interests to protect (anything anti-India is my guess), they would cut off their nose to spite their face.
Any strategic interests the US has in Afghanistan (minerals?) isn't worth the money and lives lost in trying to accomplish them. China will make the correct business decisions and won't try to try to spread "democracy" to the fourth world.
The US wil have to recalibrate their strategy to take into account the rise of Brazil and Canada.
This country has a lot of problems and I don't know how things will look in a few years. Terrible political situation in the US. Little different than Pakistan.
It seems the United States will never learn. After interfering in others' internal affairs for over a century and seeing the unintended and negative effects; even a pine tree would be smart enough to see we need to do things differently.
Besides, with friends like Pakistan, who needs enemies?
Well what makes Fareed an expert on this first he is an Indian then he is paid by CNN and clearly third he has a PHD so we can always trust people with PHDs who get paid a lot to have certain opinions to be truthful. So we should believe him blindly.
Why is this Indian making aritcles concerning Pakistan?
Why not? What he said makes a lot of sense.
Because of the deep and abiding insanity that is the culture in that part of the world, the US has to chose between nuclear-powered criminals and nuclear-powered mass murderers. The criminals kill to stay in power, the mass murderers kill because they hear voices from God. I'd vote for the criminals. At least their motives make sense.
Criminals and Murders are both losers
keep getting paid from cnn and talk against pakistan zakaria u r getting paid to talk what been told sooo i dont even take your words seriously who r u indian right never will get the better word out of your mouth any way soo plzz that says is right there
who is fareed zakaria?????? oh a few dollar worth journalist hahaha.i can teach him defence and strategic studies.he has started writing articles.he was my most unable student
Do not talk bad about your father kid.................
So few Americans bother to stay informed about the past and present of US interventionism, covert or otherwise. Foreign policy pundits like Howard Zinn label us the United States of Amnesia, because we are so ill informed and forget what happened just last year. How can we have an educated and informed electorate if the vast majority aren't paying attention?
The americans have to be very careful with pakistan. They will try to destabilise afghanistan , they try their best to harm india, they cozy up to the chinese using them against the indians, and the worst thing is that they have nuclear arma which they will use against the indians, the afghans, the usa- by smuggling dirty bombs into the usa, and also harm israel by using their islamic bomb. So pakistan is a poison to the whole world!
Unfortunately, most of us are very ignorant about world history, including our own time frame and what occurred in the recent past. I was always told to read and study the areas I was deploying to, to get a better grasp of the people I
would interact with. We need to understand that part of the world better, and where our policies have led us to and continue to lead us.
Please read Descent into Chaos: The U.S. and the Disaster in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Central Asia by Ahmed Rashid if you really want to understand that area and US policy, past and present. Until we understand the past, we'll never work out a peaceful future.
Fareed, India armed, financed and trained Tamil Tiger terrorists to ruin Sri Lanka. So just because you are god-damned Indian don't try to white wash India. India needs to deal with Kashmir..Pakistan will always use Kashmir to destabilize India. India is getting some karma and payback for aiding terrorism inSri Lanka. FACTS ARE FACTS. Rajiv Gandhi and Indira Gandhi used the ethnic riots in 1983 to back Tamil Tigers. Then they ended up being so called Peace Keepers and invaded Sri Lanka(forced invitation) and eventually had to leave after fighting the monster India helped create because you Indians saw Sri Lanka opening its'e economy early and veering towards the West at a time India was still afraid of the US and hostile because of Indira Gandhi's socialist policies.
BOTTOM LINE IS FREED ZAKARIA IS A PAKISTAN HATER AND EXTREAMLY BIASED JOURNALIST, THEREFORE HIS ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ARE WORTHLESS.
India was a cold war russian partner and is responsible of stealing millions of American jobs. That to me is a bigger issue. Fareed. Can you write an article on India's effect on American jobs?
How is that a bigger issue for a Paki loser?
Obviously, you are using propaganda to deflect the issue. Nice try butt-head.
Please rethink before you allow to use your platform by someone that spreads Indian propoganda. Fareed is of Indian origin and will always be against Pakistan. Please have a neutral writer comment on such subjects to be fair.
India was always a better friend than packistan. the ISI is responsible for the Mumbai attack that killed all those westerners in that hotel.
hindus by their very DNA are backstabbing sobs
Don't you have the same DNA? Weren't your ancestors Hindus before they were forcibly converted? Oh, I see, you'd like to pretend that you are Arabs...ha...ha.
Stop comparing India with Pakistan.
Both have problems of their own, but very different ones.
Fundamentally one is trying to move ahead and the other is digging a hole for the last 50 years.
I am so glad we had a separation. If not today I would have been so embarrassed.
Mahatma Gandhi after all did the right think. We Indians should thank him and say good riddance.
And yes I am proud Indian and a proud American. Even if we have lots of problems, we are a country of people who don't wake up every morning hating everyone else in the world.
My suggestions to my Pakistani friends.
Stop blaming everyone in the world. May be there is a problem with your thought process.
Wake up !
"Stop blaming everyone in the world. May be there is a problem with your thought process.
Wake up !"
Your wish cannot be granted. Sorry.
Fareed Zakaria did not write new lines in the course of Pakistan-US foreign relations. These are all those ideas which continuously have been uttering by all radical Indian Hindus after the incident of 9/11. They tried their best to set the ground where Pakistan would be declared a terrorist country. But that was not happened. In the recent scenario when there was anti-American reaction in Pakistan after the strike of NATO forces on Pakistani Check Post, He just tried to wash off the negligence of NATO forces.
As for as the American stance over Afghanistan is concerned, American policies themselves are being caused a weaker Afghanistan and a stronger Taliban position in Afghanistan. They are playing a game while sitting in the bed room of Kabul. Zakaria is criticizing the role of Pakistan army as the ally of America in war on terror; he negated all the sacrifices done by Pakistan Army after 9/11 to fight against the terrorists in Swat, Northern Waziristan, and Southern Waziristan. America policy makers see in reality without the support of Pakistan’s army and Pakistani government, NATO forces cannot survive more than one month in Afghanistan. Zakaria just showed his biasness towards Pakistan to oblige the Government of India for getting his award Padma Bhushan in 2010 for his contribution to strengthen Indian policies against Pakistan before Congress while sitting in New York., Abbass Rashid Butt from Lahore, Pakistan
Why commnetators keep callling Fareed Zakaria an Indian? Fareed IS originally from India. Read his bio.
Nail on the head Fareed. Pakistan is just a case of friends with no benefits.
Thanks for the propaganda, Fareed!
Fareed Zakaria, CNN is a friend of pakistan. pakistan is an enemy country and we must destroy pakistan since it is the fuel of jihad. Please fire Zakaria
Iran is more of a threat and would be a better country to make an example of, but Pakistan would do equally well in a pinch.
Fareed is right in his observations. America's foreign policy is ridiculous to say the least. Stop giving these countries american tax payer money. I mean all countries. That would be a step in the right direction.
Of course he's right. I could tell you that the moon orbits the Earth and be equally right and just as equally obvious.
Yes, but have you read some of the Pakistani comments here? Unreal! They see conspiracy theories everywhere. The Earth orbits the sun?...surely that must be a Zionist conspiracy against the moon.
While attention has been focused on Obama's bungling of the economy and force-fed ObamaCare, the fact is his foreign policy demonstrates what we should have known all along.
The Community Organizer in Chief's foreign policy – including but not limited to Pakistan has been a trainwreck. The tense, uneasy consensus among Republicans, Independents and even many Democrats is that Barrack is over his head.
Then again, when you elect a junior senator with no significant legislative experience, with a wafer-thin resume – when you look beyond the polished oratory and “Change you can believe in” – why should we have expected anything more than an “empty suit?”
What do we pay our taxes for? We should at least get free medical care if we pay taxes to the government. I for one think Obamacare is not good enough. I want to see where my tax money goes. I don't think a dime should go to supporting senseless wars, so our oil companies can fill their pockets. I think every working American deserves FREE health care and college should be free for future generations, too. That's why I reject what Obama has done. Obama has not done enough....
So, you want to pay taxes, but not get anything back from your taxes? Why pay taxes at all?
Investing in our government is like taxation without representation when we don't get health care, or anything back from it. But our taxes do fund the military, so our children can go off to war to die for some twisted cause. Very sad. I think the average American is to unintelligent to figure out that if you work all your life, the government should subsidize health care. Why do our congressmen and women have such excellent plans and make almost one million per year, and there are millions of Americans without health care? Our country has become a third world country, a puppet for big corporations, and our leaders just try to dupe us with stories about democracy.
Nuke Pak-Man now before it happens to the rest of the world. Pakistan is the retarded brother you never wanted to admit you had, but always wanted to kill to get him out of the way of real progress. Any country that puts the magical allah above all else neads to be dealt with in the harshest of manners. Do now, before too late. Pakistan...you are not welcome in the US. Take your crappy kabob restaurants and get out now while you can before we wipe our a$s with you.
Are you Taliban of America?
First, President Obama received the Nobel Peace prize. He supported a military dictatorship at that time. Therefore, all U.S. Presidents future and past should receive Nobel Peace Prizes whenever they support dictatorships. Second, by abandoning the dictatorship, we will cut off the money to Al Qaeda and the Pakistan/Afghan heroin cartel that our government has also invested in through money laundering (see the New York Times article on the subject). Third, let Pakistan decide what it wants to do and pull our troops out of the area now. Otherwise, abandon all talk of democracy, and invade Pakistan and make it a dictatorship run by the U.S. military, not the Pakistani military. If we do that, even more people will die. Call a spade a spade. Our government never believed in democracy or peace anyway. Anyone who believes our leaders actually want democracy over there is a sucker.
We are getting pulled into a quagmire. Let's get out now. We should not give a dime to the Pakistani government. We should not give a dime to Afghanistan or Iraq. We should build up our own country and use alternative fuels.
Obama's thought process is putting America backwards. To put America forwards, we have to strengthen our economy and take the troops home. We should adopt new forms of energy. It is not too late to change.
Peace can never occur through military occupation.
I was being sarcastic in the first part of the last post. Really, we will not solve anything through military occupations because we will support one faction over another faction without knowing what we are getting involved in. Afghanistan has been in a civil war before the U.S. occupied it, and Pakistan has a lot of different ethnicities struggling for freedom. We are in over our head. It is better to invest in different forms of energy at home. Besides, people are dying for no reason over there. It doesn't make sense. I do not think we were wise to attack Pakistan. NATO made a mistake. The U.S. government is addicted to war. I am not hopeful about any of the outcomes in any of the military interventions we have had. We need to be training our youth to learn how to use computers and how to compete in a global economy where finances play a larger role than weapons. Every year, the defense budget grows, and now President Obama wants to cut social programs while spending billions of dollars on puppet governments. It really makes me sick to my stomach.
About your statement, "The U.S. government is addicted to war."
Just curious, did you feel the same way when we went into Iraq?
The best way to deal with Pakistan is:
1. Withdraw all support financial + military.
2. Get rid of ISI by hook or by crook, meanwhile, drum up support for India, let India (RAW and IB) take care of Pakistan. Hold hands with China so that it does not interfere.
3. Divide Pakistan in in 3 countries namely Sindh, Baluchistan and rest of Pakistan.
4. 80% pakistan is in hell hole, let the 20% go there as well. Pave the road for them.
"Only 12% of Pakistanis have a favorable view of the US." Only 12% of Americans have a favorable view of Congress. See how much we have in common? At least Americans and Pakis seem to agree that our government sucks. Although, I'm surprised CNN didn't censor the life-size effigy of their Dear Leader being torched.
They SHOULD be FAR MORE concerned about how many Americans have a favorable view of Pakistan. THAT would be newsworthy.
Fareed , have you ever highlighted what India is doing in Kashmir, Indian army is killing Kashmiris every day. Nearly 70,000 have disapeared (no one know if they r dead or alive). But how can you do that , you can only talk about Pakistan, Pakistan is an easy target and a good source for earning money (the story sells fast, no matter how much you lie) Good luck!!!
Spare us your fake concern for Kashmiris. Did you create a heaven for them on your side of Pakistan-Occupied-Kashmir?
yes we have created a heaven in AZAD Kashmir.... please leave this Drama..... even your own selected minister... Umer Abdullah is now begging in front of the so called biggest democracy to leave the occupied Kashmir and free it from military. But no body is listening to him either.
where are you Mr Zakeria .... if you are so much concern about south asia .... you must see this as will.
Bunch of stupid indians here with fake american names. LOL.
Thank you for proving how wrong it is to stereotype people.
Go sit on your mama's lap,you cry baby.You guys are jealous of india and its progress.Its time USA should declare pakistan as a terrorist country.....watch whats coming your way.....US and its allies is going to finish pakistan .God bless america......and their friends.
Want to change their minds? Make them fear the United States beyond anything they've ever feared before. Destroy Iran and rock their society to it's core. When you've finished, don't rebuild the place. Let the Iranians do it themselves with the understanding that this will happen again if their new government is anti-American. When the other Muslim countries realize that Allah is not on their side, they will fall in line. Cut the head off the snake and it can't bite anymore.
Clearly Pakistan has emerged as the military and economic leader of west central asia and the new gateway to europe and central asia much to the chagrin of others who do not want to see a strong Pakistan in a leadership position. We welcome Pakistan to this new role as they sacrificed the most in this terror war financed by the Indians.
LMAO. What a conspiracy theory? You are clearly a Pakistani and can be excused for indulging in some story weaving.
LOL
Karim,
You are stealing my lines. You all should watch my PR propaganda against Israeli, Ameriki and Hundistani during 2008 mumbai attack. ...you outpast me by saying all this here. you need to wear the read hat and comeon the TV with me.
Mumbai and Chennai are the illegal gambling capitals of the cricketing world. proceeds from these operations are being used by indian Govt to finance talibans and al qaeda who are killing americans and pakistanis. SHAME ON INDIA
What does gambling have to do with the article?
Does your daddy know you're using his laptop?
Jon good one...........pakistani people are fanatic,uncivilized,dirty,jealous,arrogant,ruthless,selfish,rapist,dirty mind,illetrate people what can you expect any decency from this sort of people.US is dealing is with snakes in the grass.They are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo jealous of india that they are not concentrating on their own internal problems.They wake up with ill feelings for everybody and hit the bed with grudges.They are basically a "SICK" people may god have mercy on them,amen
Fareed works for RAW
He..he..silly boy. Anybody who says anything negative about that disgusting country works for RAW...what a joke.
Exactly, tongue in cheek, that's the mindset of every average Indian, any incident in India is always attributed to the ISI
@ozman: This article is not about incidents in India, in case you missed reading it.
Do you think foreign investors would have the same confidence in American capital markets knowing that American politicians are involved in insider trading? Should some U.S banks be listed as public corporations anymore when they are using federal banks to print money to cover their losses?
The fact that Jon Corzine is still walking around without handcuffs around his wrists proves that you are even more correct than you might realize.
Pakistan is a country that
1. Provides and provided safe haven to terrorists.
2. Sponsors terrorism in and around the world.
3. Tries to bring in leaders of it's choice to power in Afghanistan by assassinations.
4. Proliferates nuclear technology.
5. Takes aid and plays double game.
They should be greatful that the world community is still talking to them instead of trashing them. This is the worst country in the world now
Amen.
Nonsense, Israel is the most dangerous illegal rogue state on earth, an immediate danger to its neighbours. India on the other hand is the worlds sweatshop.
Given a choice between sweatshops and incubators of terrorists (Pakistan) on the other, I'd go with option #1 any day.
are you from oz? are you the wizard of Oz that turned out to be a conman who faked his way to prominence in a make believe world? do you exist in a fantasy world? just asking.
Divide Pakistan in 3 parts. Let RAW take care of it. Average Pakistani and all of ISI is scared of RAW.
I I think in international relationship there is no Permanent friends or Permanent enemies therefore this case is no different and that Pakistan and The US have two different objective and each nation looks after its interest first.
Dear friends I being Pakistani can assure the things have been portrayed absolutely wrong by media controlled by few countries and organizations. Pakistanis do not hate US, in fact most of the people would like to visit America on first opportunity and Americans are very good people. But do you think Americans are aware of our problems. Pakistanis are very good people. But Americans know Pakistanis what media has portrayed to them. Regardless of Pakistais or Americans are good or bad, is it justified by any way to kill soldiers of your own non-NATO ally and stratigic partner and not saying sorry for that, albeit ground facts are very clear that it was an intentional step. President Obama says it was not intentional and inquiry id underway. If inquiry is underway, then how did he claim that it was not intentional. This is absolutely humbug that Pakistan is becoming Taliban State or Pakistanis have anti-American sentiments. Yes anti-American sentiment do rise on acts like killing of our people and soldiers and is it wrong? But no one is becoming Taliban. They are outsiders not part of our culture or society. Outlaws exist in every country and we are controlling them. We are not afraid of them.
Is that an attempt at logic? You have got some coursework to cover in Common Sense – 101. That explains why you are confused about why Pakistanis are getting killed.
I sincerely wish there is no collateral damage. Your ISI seems to believe in killing American soldiers and then calling it Taliban attacks i.e. collateral damage in the War.
Duplicity my dear Paki, your own government lies to You. The moron in you doesn't get it.
Your Government lies to you too. The idiot in you doesn't get it either.
Stop giving them money and find a better friend!
My name is fareed Zakaria!
Ruf Ruf!
With friends like that, who needs enemies?
Well said Anti Fareed. I think Fareed Zakaria likes only one party and one ideology only, that is "Fareed Zakaria". In order to look good in the eyes of his master he sell himself very easily. I wish he can change his name. We get a wrong impression that how come a Muslim can spew so much poison against Muslims. Tomorrow when China becomes big he will be singing the songs for China. He is like the Eunuch in the close circles of Pharaoh. They are present in every generation. He is the present day Mir Sadiq and Mir Jafer.
This is exactly the kind of thinking that has sunken you and your nation. How Pakistani's can you name that feature on world stage. Fareed is a prime example of Indian Muslims prospering at home ant abroad and making India and Indians proud. Grow up, while there is still time and a country called Pakistan !
The last thing you would want to do CNN is to have an analysis on Pakistan by an Indian , (indians are biased by default against Pakistan)
Any other American would have said the same. In case you slept through the past decade – there is not much love left for Pakistan anywhere in the civilized world.
When do Pakistanis get in touch with reality? You are criticized because of your actions. You mistakenly assume bias. Most free countries have populations that question. Pakistanis however either mouth official propaganda or just keep quiet.
In democracy too, Pakistan remains a quasi dictatorship. Pity you can't see beyond the obvious.
Fareed used to write some thought provoking articles but I think the "Arab Spring" has infected his mind. He now sees freedom everywhere is the middle East and the problem for the USA is supporting the dictators. Actually, the problem for the USA is that we are a nation of infidels not how who is leading an Islamic country. We are not going to change and the Islamist nations are not going to change. So eventually they will kill 50,000 of us with a terrorist dirty nuke, and we (or Britain if the bomb is set off in London) will kill 3 billion of them and eliminate the Islamic threat.
4 big ones – one each on Iran, Pakistan, Saudi and for good measure on the only other non-Islamic madman in North Korea. That would solve the entire world's problems for the next 50 years. Reassess after 50 years – rinse, repeat and wash if required.
Jeremy....USA is fighting for a decade in afganistan .. killed thousands and still have access only on selected area in kabul.......
Tell u a fact if u vacate afganistan by 2014 .... teh government there won't last ayear and will be taken over by poorly equipped taliban ... what to say about all the muslim country u have mentioned .. wake dude...
The region involved is only inhabited by Taliban. It has no geographical value (except for rock collectors). Drop a small tactical nuc there and make it an uninhabitable parking lot for the next 100 years. The terrorists will be stuck on the Pakistan side. Then cut off aid to Pakistan and let them deal with their problems.
Insomuch as a tatical nuc is unthinkable, so are the needless American and Nato (and Russian in the 80's) deaths that have occured as a result of that mountain pass.
Simply two concerns in this out of fact written article. First why U.S is giving aid to Pakistan military for years? Is there hidden agenda or they are buying services for their war on terror. This war is in any way has nothing to do with Pakistan where country offered more sacrifices alone than combined terrorism in the world. if it is hidden agenda than we should question U.S and not Pakistan. And if it is for buying services than Mr. Farid- open up your eyes it is the cheapest and well negotiated from U.S view so better do not question that.
Second concern- U.S needs to revisit their agreement with Pakistan? What a joke? They should instead bring concerned stakeholders on the table and talk to those who have roots in common masses in Afghanistan and not with Karzai who has no control but personal interests in keeping U.S engaged in Afhanistan.
Last if U.S vacated Afghanistan it will be the happiest day of people living in that region. US completely lost this war and now if they like to loose Pakistan than worst is yet to come!!!!
You can always tell a Pakistani by their usage of "hidden agenda" in their writing. They see conspiracy theories everywhere.
Can you ever achieve anything through a partnership with foul fellows? US didn't learn from its mistake and repeated the same after 9/11.
Pakistan should divide itself into 3. Baluchistan, Punjabistan and Pashtunistan. Then the Pashtuns can have their Caliphate, The Baluchis can have the country they've always wants and the Punjabs can start spending on education instead of the useless army.
Pakistan is spending far less on Army than India , USA and china. Why dont you bother about them? Leave Pakistan, we will take care of our problems. By the way we have a better hunger and shelter index than " the biggest failed state India" You have doubts check it up
Burn baby, burn...jealousy will eat you away. Who are you kidding, Pakistan is word famous for being a banana republic...a failed state that is beyond redemption. In absolute terms, Pakistan does spend far less than the countries you mentioned and that's only because you don't have the money....there's only so much you can get with a begging bowl from other countries after all. But it still spends an unhealthy percentage of its GDP on its military.
ya u are right Sohaib but retard minded Indians will not get it!
The article is on Pakistan, so I commented on Pakistan. If you insist on pointing the other way, then yes India, China and the US should spend less on their armies too and more on education.
Babloo: Why should Uk be not nroken into England and Ireland? Why not USA into North and south (rememebr civil war and march of fire)? Why note greece? Why not Turkey in three parts? Why not Iran? Why not Germany? Why not India? Why not Sri Lanka? Why Pakistan? What is the reason for your opinion on breaking Pakistan?
"Friends without benefits" - well said, Fareed. Although I would prefer friends with benefits. An by the way all-american girl Mila Kunis is made in Ukraine.
Okay, here's something that I still don't understand and would request enlightenment on. Why the H3LL do we need to bring our military supplies into Afganistan through Pakistan anyway? The last I heard there was a usable airstrip in the Afgan capital. Why not use that? It can't be any less safe nor any less hassle than putting up with all the grief we're getting from the Pakistanies. The only reason these people put up with us is for the money. My vote is we re-direct our tranport flights to Kabul, if possible, cut off all aid to Pakistan and tell them to kiss where the sun don't shine. We're probably the only reason that the Taliban hasn't overrun them already.
Typical article from an Indian Journalist. Congrats Mr. Zakaria for spreading more propaganda. I dare you to find a country (including yours) that does not hate another.
There are always a select group that are irrational and extreme, but don't generalize it for the entire population. Shame on you.
Don't take it personally just because another Muslim dared to speak the truth about your disgusting country. Just give us back the money and go back to your favorite 13th century pastimes.
$20 billion. What a waste. Our tax dollars at work. Think of what we could have done with $20 billion righ here in the United States. Schools, roads, bridges, health care, teachers. But no, we send $20 billion to Pakistan. And they still hate us. Time to cut these guys off.
We lost 70 billion dollars in GWOT. You gaved us 10 billion not 20. You misers, better part ways now, we are better off without US support if you have to kill Pakistani soldiers blindly
Ok, $10B not 20, if you insist. Now will you give us back the 10 and go back to herding camels and goats please?
There no way you guys can look cool flashing your begging bowl for money from outsiders. I know you think China would be your new saviors but don't count on it. They didn't exactly leap at the opportunity to save the Euro and they wouldn't give a dime to you without mortgaging the last shreds of your dignity either.
@Jeremy : Since when did these Pakis have dignity?
Dignity is the essence of Pakistani culture. We donot need certificate from anyone. You are simply forgetting that
Pakistan fought a terrible war against USSR IN 80s. Can you count how much aid is given to Israel every year, although has nothing to do in GWOT? where goes the dignity then?
THIS IS WHAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU LEARNED AND HEAR FRACTION OF A STORE AND START USING YOUR OWN IMAGINATION TO DEVELOP YOUR OWN THOUGHT
fareed zakarya????????? who is this. He wants to teach americans.oh guy go hell. americans not child to hear your advice.they know every thing.
@Jeremy, its you who needed help of Pakistan after 9/11, so technically it makes you beggars and not us. We are better off your friendship so we can avoid terrorists like Raymond Davis off our country!
Unfortunately, many posters, instead of critiquing the article, have indulged in ad hominem attacks on Fareed or India. Hopefully, others are mature enough to see through their diabilical efforts to sabotage the truth which the article discusses. Earlier, I had suggested an alternative route through Iran. Here is another to win the "war on terror" without firing a single shot. The US, in conjunction with other western countries needs to do three steps to wind done this war on terror within a week's time. A) Cancel ALL aid to Pakistan B) Seize ALL wealth stashed away in overseas countires by the Pakistani elite, specially the Pakistan Army. Confiscate real estate and properties: mansions, villas, chateaus in UK, France, Germany, Switzerland, USA, UAE and bentleys and rolls royoces in these countries; freeze and seize all overseas bank account of Pakistani generals and C) deport or threaten to deport ALL PakMil and their relatives (sons, daughters, uncles, aunts, cousins and other kith and kin of Rich, Anglophilakistani Elites) back to Pakistan on charges of money laundering etc. If these three steps are implemented aggressively, the terrorism emanating from Pakistan will shut down within one week – guaranteed, and all without firing a single bullet! It is important to remember that PakMil is homicidal, not suicidal! When their interestes are threatened directly, and feel the pain, they will heel! Also, the people of Pakistan will finally get a chance to get their house in order and work towards establishing democracy. Yes, we must drawdown from Pakistan/Afghanistan. Now, please, feel free to critique this suggestion on its meritm and please, no ad hominem attacks please!
Can you throw some light on training of LTTE by Indian Army causing 80,000 deaths in Sri Lanka? Isnt is Indian Army? Do you know who is Anna Hazare and what is he fighting for? Do you know Pakistan ranks better in ease of business index because indian system is entirely corrupt? Do you know Pakistan is better in hunger and shelter index than shining India? You have 300 millions dalits who are living in subhuman conditions. dedicate the rest of your life for dalits, leave us we will take care of Pakistan
Not a single reply to my questions? Dont you Indian have the courage to face the reality? lets first talk on hunger index? can you answer with decency?
Is it really necessary for you to hijack this thread? We are discussing Pakistan's perfidy primarily against the USA. What has that to do with India? Take your India hatred somewhere else please!
Pakistan has more hunger than India????????????????????????? Oh my my . What a lie. What a lie. The biggest lie of the century. Congrtas Indian supporters you just won the biggest lie medal on blogs. Please check up world hunegr index and you will find shining lower than Pakistan and China.
I am not India, I am pro Pakistan. By proving that Pakistan has a better hunger index than India (which is a reasonable place to live), Pakistan automatically becomes a more reasonable place to live. Isnt it logical?
For all those who think its 'Pakistan' that is corrupt and needs to cut off from trade, remember that America did same with Afghanistan and Iraq and now the target is us. There is nothing against Indians now as we have no time to think about holding past grudges when our country is falling apart by drone attacks of USA. So please grow up, come out of history and now focus on future
With friend like USA, who needs an enemy, a hindu scorpion always in pursuit of sting to fulfill his hindu criminal habit. Take your propagated "AIDS" but never delivered and shove it in hindered gutter India's hind, behind.
As an Indian, I wish a safe and prosperous neighbor in Pakistan. Unfortunately, Pakistan has made wrong decisions one after another since inception including the one for independent state. Just look at how successful Indian Muslims are, from film industry to politics to Journalism , take Fareed Zakaria for example. Pakistan always chooses to ally with the wrong partners, be it Iran, Taliban/al-Qaida or even China.
The people in Film industry are not Muslims. Sulman Khan doing poja with his mother neither any other. They just have Muslim names.
As soon as anybody brings up that muslims in India are happy and have broader power and say in the country, you will say that they are not muslims but Mujahirs.
Did u know your father of nation (Jinnah) was a Gujarati (indian) Khoja (not a muslim) and you all changed the name?
Pakistan has a dark future ahead, with or without America.
Only by hindu soul filthy desire of a hindu ignorent from hindered gutter called India, look at difference, hindus from hindered India are licking shoes of America and Pakistan wants to get rid of USA. Bright future is in freedom of choice not in slavery of another man, like hindus ignorant of hindered land India, borne to be slaves of pot head hindu sanatns, filthy racist, their man gods
Filthy towelhead. Go back into the madarsa you just crawled out of.
Yes it is honorable to go to madrassa, unlike going to hindu temple, dungeon of illegality run by pot head hindu sanatan criminal racist and followed by his hindu gentile ignorent slaves like their man god.
Well at least they don't blow up people in the name of religion. Any guesses why your race is the most viled and hated one in this world?
hinduism racism is foundation of hinduism criminality spewed by pot head hindu santans, filthy racist, Muslim have nothing to do with it as you hind lie abut Muslim, It is all about truth, a hindu ignorent has no clue under the slavery of his pot head sanatan racist man god. Muslim are not hated but loved by majority of people on earth and they are joining them in droves,
Pakistan has a bright future. How did you conculde dark future? Do we have 300 million dalits? Who has a better hunger index? Who has a better shelter index? Who has a better ease of business index? Who has the biggest voluntary ambulance service? Who has the biggest welfare freee cancer hospital?
I wonder when a day will come when Indians will learn the decency to participate in a blog. Grow up Indians.
Just answser me why India is lagging in hunger and shelter Index? Why Indian Army trained LTTE and caused 80,000 deaths and 300,000 injuries in Sri Lanka? And more so learn to participate in a blog in a decent manner, if you Indians know what decency is
I always like Fareed's analysis and his way of looking at things from a different perspective then the rest of the media.
hindu ignorent, loves another hindu, ignorent, one may be pretending to be Muslim but both are them hindus ignorants from hindered gutter called India.
Like most nations India has a stake in its neighbours.. Hence the intrusion in Sri Lanka and the Liberation of Bangladesh. Pakistan has been trying the same in Kashmir and wants to have complete influence in Afghanistan, they All interfere in each others business... more or less! The KEY difference is that India is growing fast and life is improving for all Indians (takes time) but you cannot say the same for Pakistan. I hope All Pakistanis focus on improving their lives and stop blaming India or America for its problems.
Hmm.. first kill 2 dozen soldiers of an ally and when they complain start moaning that they aren't gud frnds!
I can still recall clearly Sept 11 on CNN live, and in some other international channels – the massive street celebration and joy of Pakistanis, and Egyptians, on the news of Al Qaeda's purposeless, cowardice, attack on the twin towers.
If there was another such 9/11 attack scale, the same celebration would echo in the streets of Pakistan.
LIve with it, 9/11 was answer to American hinduism terrorism against Muslims and Islam, crowds in Muslim countries were no different than crowds celebrating murder of Osama in washington DC.
You are an idiot. Hindu's and Christians are using a proper language above and below. Why don't u use good debate language. Because of u whole religion is going down. Shame on u.
Aid to Pakistan worth US $ 20 billion over the last decade !!! Sounds pretty intriguing. Can you share the break down of this number in terms of cash injection, soft loans, consultancy services, imported vehicles etc. I understand that Pakistani government disputes the US aid claim because of the turn around of money back into US economy because of consultancy fees and other procurement outside Pakistan. US $ 20 billion is a lot of money for Pakistan which does not seem have actually landed here!!!
Fareed's article appears to lack full appreciation of the ground realities. Such a strong reaction of the Pakistani civil and military leadership seems to preempt US actions and intentions of its planned exit from Afghanistan. Pakistan wants to make sure it is not jettisoned like US did to Pakistan at the end of Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan.
It appears that US understand the fact the anti-US sentiment has been pretty strong in Pakistan but it has not really understood and addressed the root cause. To me factors include economic condition masses, imposing impression of the US, lack of respect of Pakistani life (be it Raymond Davis or Drone Strikes, or Aimal Kasi).
The "root cause" is Pakistan's continued support for terrorism worldwide, and it's refusal to acknowledge it in spite of being caught PANTS DOWN time and time again. Could you please tell us how Osama ended up less than 100 miles from your country's capital? And why so many terrorist activities in the world – whether successful or those pre-empted, happen to originate in Pakistan? Do you in all seriousness think that anybody in this world is your friend, let alone the US?
Root cause of hinduism terrorism is not Pakistan as you hind lie, but hinduism terrorism of western hindus criminals and hindus criminals of hindered land gutter India, hindus criminals may not admit it out of their hindusim mental dyslexia, but fact remains, if it was not hinduism terrorism of hindus criminals, Muslims did not have to resort to feeding medicine of hindus terrorist to hindus terrorist. what goes around comes around. May be very hard to understand for a hindu absurd from hindered gutter India pretending to be American.
We could suck every big toe in Pakistan and they would still hate the US, any attempt at a tolerant relationship would be a joke. As long as we have a financial interest there our government will continue their quest, whether our entire populace agrees its wrong or not..
Pakistanis have spited on American "AIDS", now hindus leaches from hindered gutter India can swallow it, USA has no financial intrest in Pakistan, nor will be allowed to scam Pakistan wealth to spend on American war of terror.
Slow day in Tora Bora today, eh? Don't worry we'll send you a drone right away.
Shame on you. Fareed is talking behalf of us. What kind of person you are. Don't you think about our next gen. Would like to live under poverty and killings.
Great insight Fareed!!! Insha Allah with learned muslim like you will bring prosperity to Pak & Afgan. We should focus on agriculture, science & peace in place of hatred & killings.
Pak has to work under leadership of India to be a super power in Asia. Together only we can prosper. I request Indian government to take interest & help us.
being and Indian i request Pakistani govt that they help us to improve our living conditions to help us also to eradicate the HIV in our country.
The Problem with USA is that they want democracy but that can supports their own goals not what nation like or want.If Palestinians elect Hamas that is not democracy according to USA and west.
on the 20 Billion $ what that is nothing as compared to losses Pakistan face in fighting your war.
The Problem with USA is that they want democracy but that can supports their own goals not what nation like or want.If Palestinians elect Hamas that is not democracy according to USA and west.
on the 20 Billion $ what that is nothing as compared to losses Pakistan face in fighting your war.
Root cause of hinduism terrorism is not Pakistan as you hind lie, but hinduism terrorism of western hindus criminals and hindus criminals of hindered land gutter India, hindus criminals may not admit it out of their hindusim mental dyslexia, but fact remains, if it was not hinduism terrorism of hindus criminals, Muslims did not have to resort to feeding medicine of hindus terrorist to hindus terrorist. what goes around comes around. May be very hard to understand for a hindu absurd from hindered gutter India pretending to be American.
We lost 70 billion dollars in GWOT. You gaved us 10 billion not 20. You misers, better part ways now, we are better off without US support if you have to kill Pakistani soldiers blindly
Fareed represents the views of Delhi in the American Media!
The ironic thing is that he is doing this Transparently?
Dear Saba,
I guess you are defined in the same category as Saba; reading from your articulate expression of your hatred for All things Pakistani and Muslim?
OMG a monkey?? Pakistan is so updated that even a monkey can't pass our borders..there must be a salute to ISI and pak army, the whole Kasab gang entered to India without any clue to them!!! indina should learn something from us i think?
Is the US Govt stupid or what? Why don't you take your so called aid which is money for services rendered and stick it where the sun don't shine? The world is sick to death of the US terrorists and the North American Terror Organisation (NATO)...what are you even doing in Afghanistan now? Your mission was to kill the OBL guy if he was ever killed (still waiting for the proof btw) which is completed now pi$$ off!!!!
We would like to see the proof that your father is your real father. Come back when you have proof and we will start talking to you. Otherwise you will continue being ignored. Humiliating, no?
Fareed represents the views of Delhi in the American Media!
The ironic thing is that he is doing this Transparently?
Typical article from an Indian Journalist. Congrats Mr. Zakaria for spreading more propaganda. I dare you to find a country (including yours) that does not hate another.
There are always a select group that are irrational and extreme, but don't generalize it for the entire population. Shame on you.
USA = Unethical Series of Attacks
USA = U Stupid Arab
Somalia better than U.S. too atleast they return the ships after ransom, they dont attack any country for money.
What are we doing in Afghanistan? Except killing and throwing money at corrupt Officers and Karazai. NATO has not occupied 100 acre of real Estate in11 years...what kind of War is this? Back home there is an monetary doom day scenario is waiting. US Banks have $600Tr Derivative Exposure in EU and we need money and jobs here
Agreed. Give a political solution to Afghanistan and evict.
Paki Awakening underway. Paki youth is taking control of their country in next year's election
and Paki Power will kick the Unethical States of America and Northern Alliance of Terrorists outof our neighborhood. I see many Indians barking here but they will soon be very very quite after the terrorists leave our region
I have just one word for this article ... B.E.A.U.T.I.F.U.L!!!!
Zakaria you are a big blot on Muslims and just to show your slavery to USA you have given such a CIA nurtured view point about Pakistan. You see these 20 billion dollar only which have not been yet paid only half of it and that too in 13 years where as in Afghan war USA has spent trillion of dollars despite the fact major war been fought by PAK army and most of Alqaeda leaders caught by them and they had more than 4000 casualities. Pakistan army in true sense has been clearing up US forces mess which they have created in PAK Afghan border. All these talibans in pakistan have been paid in dollars(which shows who has been paying them) and are used to crack down PAK Army.
A person like you who only wants to tell the world the story your masters have told you to narrate can make you a good puppy of CIA but your soul shall always condemn you within. Today Pakistani nation have seen the true picture of so called war on terror which was meant to destablize Pakistan army and country from within. US , Israel and Indian dirty dream will never be fulfilled. Pakistani nation despite its all odds has proven to be resilliant and will always back its army.
Long Live Pakistan.....
I wonder if pakistan is our enemy so why we are providing them with so much money??? Has whole American think tank gone nuts or what??? Why they are so keen on holding mutual relationships with them??? I believe our think tanks are no better than a greedy kid.. Who agrees to call a PIMP his DAD for a hotdog and as soon as he is done eating then call COPS for selling out his mom!!!
I would like to see Fareed Zakaria talking about Indian terrorism in Kashmir. What India is doing in Kashmir cannot be ignored and America not putting pressure on India is also a terrorism . You cannot accuse Pakistan of being a terrorist country with knowing the ongoing Indian terrorism activities in Kashmir. India is brutally killing Kashmiris every other day. This issues needs to be resolved first. Otherwise forget it.
Pakistan can benefit a lot if it lived peacefully with India and Afghanistan. It could cut its defence budget to nothing and use the savings for development. At one time Pakistani GDP and per capita income and the rate of rupee used to fair better then that of India. Pakistan headed in the wrong direction at birth. The problem is in the very name of the country, when it called itself an Islamic country. You are bound to have problems when you mix state and religion. Now Pakistan faces existential risks. It can still reverse the course by cooperating with its donors and neighbors who can help it to get rid of the terror networks infested in the country.
"lavished islamabad with aid"
"supporting islamabad"
Quotes from fareed zakaria
pakistan has nothing to do with this.
As long as you give islamabad aid. As long as you support islamabad. What do you expect?
There is lots to say about Pakistan Government and Al Qaeda ,by me never believe in the Pakistan Government .They are all same rotten fruit , the same ( Heine ) group ,all false people.
Islamabad is the proverbial "Young Bride" with numerous suitors at her feet. For all this new bride cares she could dispose of any suitor when it suits her. Pakistan could in the least be bothered if She turns her back agianst the United States of America. She has a choice to join the BRICS countries consisting of Brazil, Russia, india, Cuba and South Africa. This Young bride" is being hesitant with respect to the BRICS Group because of the membership of India her immedaite neighbour whom she will not love to share anything with.
american are paying 400 US $ for 12 letters of oil in afghanistan due to blockage of supply line from pakistan....
Here is short summary of what Pakistan did for USA.
1) Choose US over Russia as Ally since the creation of Pakistan.
2) Pakistan Join CENTO (Alliance again Russia), just to please USA
3) Pakistan did not took part directly in Arab-Israel wars, again just to please USA
4) Pakistan lost half of the country (Pakistan was at fault) and did not get any direct military support from USA and at they end they had to raise white flag and accept defeat.
5) In 1980’s after Russia’s invasion of Afghanistan Pakistan was brainwashed by USA that Russia is going to invade there land, USA provided full military and some what financial support to Pakistan to train Mujahidin’s against Red Army in Afghanistan, at the end Red Army left and its economy collapsed, USSR was also broken into several countries, it is not wrong to say that former soviet Union was defeated by Mujahidin’s and the won the war for USA.
6) Pakistan is home to millions of Afghan refugees due to ongoing wars in Afghanistan in which USA is directly or in directly involved. Afghan refuges also brought drugs and weapons which resulted in thousand’s of death in Pakistan.
7) After 9/11 Pakistan shook hands with USA again to eliminate al-Qaida and Taleban from Afghanistan, the outcome of this is 30,000 thousand deaths in Pakistan and loss of 60 billon $.
Fareed zakaria is an intelegence agent implanted in US media' deport him ' wake up america wake up' these indians have plaqued your economy. now poisoning your brains against your cold war time friends unlike indians who were pro USSR all time. wake up .. fareed is imposter.
we broke USSR,we will contol Afgahistan & America will be made to pay the bill by bleeding every day for every pakistani killed.India will be dealt when we are not busy elsewhere.
Just imagine us coming at YOU........one day
Jalal,
You are what I would refer to as "sheeple" believe what your told without question.....I'm tired of America being viewed or treated as the cause of "Islam" woes....fix your own religion or deal with the aftermath....our country and people are (without question which can be statistically proven) the most giving people in our world's history! If America were the GREAT DEVIL which your religious leaders claim....you wouldn't be on this planet to read this message because make no mistake America has the ability to wipe any country off the planet....but we don't...can you say nations of your religion can show the same restraint...?
I think there is a syndrome that has affected certain religious races.. Even though I respect all religions and even follow certain ones for their good teachings of love and forgiveness, my view is when people who are 'super indulging' in their religion, their religious sensitiveness becomes a problem to others who are more tolerant and who prefer living peacefully with everyone, irregardless of their beliefs.
Like I always say, since there is not even one single solid evident of an afterlife, thousands of years have passed and still no one has any proof or gone there and come back to talk about it – lets not discuss about any religion. To each his own.
America has always supported military regimes in Asia. It is US that fought Afghan war and created Taliban with the help of ISI. I dont understand why Zikaria not blame US policies for the current state of affairs in Pakistan today. Ok i understand Pak army is also a big player but who fed this army to hang Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto -the most popular civilian leader of Pak history. Who supported Musharraf when he was crushing the party and goverment of Nawaz Sharif in 1999? Corporate media in Pakistan and US cannot all the peoples all the time.
The educated people in Pak rightly point fingers to US for misusing its army against Iran and India. So i would ask Mr Zikaria to balance his point of views on Pakistan and try to help the poor masses of this country who have always been robbed of their basics rights. Sometimes, by US and sometimes by its army and politicians.
Pakistan has a democratic govt and free media & judiciary, therefore, cannot be termed as military state as asserted by Mr Farid Zakria
Pakistan has better hunger and shelter index than India
Pakistan has better ease of doing business index than India as we are less corrupt than Indians
Pakistan has the largest voluntary ambulance service in the world
Pakistan is the 7th nuclear power, with an excellent record of nuclear safety (remember Chernobel and Bhopal)
Pakistanis are mature that in 1987 they saw Pakistani Cricket team loosing a semifinal of world cup and absorbed it. 10 years later Indian crowd could not do the same and started throwing stones, match had to be stopped
Pakistan has a strong army
Pakistan has independent judiciary, media and democracy
Pakistan has 2nd largest coal reserves in the world.
By 2014 Inshallah Pakistan will rise in the world as a developing country
Dont loose hope, serve the country with pride. Long Live Pakistan
Dear Mr. Zakaria:
Once again you sum up well in line with your agenda. Keep on looting the hard pressed American tax payers to help the ungrateful Pakistani people.
BTW, here's a response I wrote today that fits in well here:
It's Pakistani power politics in full play.
As Gen. Musharaff and even several Taliban leaders have themselves openly claimed, the Taliban cannot lift even their little finger w/o the Pakistani military's nod! Given that fact, this killing is nothing surprising. The Pakistani military and ISI, and in turn the Pakistani govt view such killings ONLY AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE (calling them Martyrs) in their quest to keep the war going. To that end they have systematically eliminated anyone intent on making peace with the US and the Karzai regime.
Why do they do it? To keep the US and Western aid flowing, and to bring America on its knees by continuing to bleed us, just as they are doing with India by locking up half a million Indian soldiers by pushing in a mere couple of thousand die-hard, well trained, religiously motivated Islamic guerilla fighters. As we know most of the aid so GLEENED goes straight into the Pakistani military coffers, while pretending that they are themselves victims of terror. That also serves as a cover to quietly add to their nuclear stockpile, convinced that the US will YET AGAIN turn a blind eye in view of the Pakistani partnership in the war on terror.
All this has one laser focused goal – of carrying forward the Saudi inspired, Pakistani delivered goal of exporting Islamic Jihad to the west, bring the west, Israel & India on its knees and eventual Islamization of the entire world.
Many people incl. CNN's own rabidly anti-Semite, America/India/West hating Mr. FAREED ZAKARIA are overtly & covertly working to ensure just that, while outwardly pretending to be American patriots and ONLY NOTIONALLY condemning radical Islam to hoodwink gullible & naive Americans.
Unless America, Europe (b4 it's completely lost), India and Israel join hands to tame this Islamic demon once & for all, our demise as free, secular, democratic nations is definite........if not in the coming years/decades......may be even if it were to take a century!
If only we look at the examples of how predominantly Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish lands have fallen into the Islamist's lap with all traces of their non-Islamic past totally erased, to what is currently underway in Europe, India, Israel and also right here in America, nobody can call them mere doomsday prophecies!!! When we do realize that they indeed were true…….it may be just too late!!!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA.....GOD BLESS INDIA......GOD BLESS ISRAEL.
Amit-Atlanta-USA
To those of you who think Mr. Zakaria is anti-Pakistani, I say this "he surely is NOT". He does fine tune his stories depending on which way the wind is blowing (!!) sometimes being critical of the Pakistani military and sometimes saying they are doing the right thing by protecting their soverignity........ even while hiding criminals.
But, plz. remember he's 100% pro-Muslim that includes support of the Pakistani people, Kashmiri Islamists, and ofcourse Indian Muslims whom he conisders to be discriminated against by the Hindu majority India.
Don't get him wrong please!
;;;;;;MUSLIMS ARE EVIL AND SHIIA ISLAM TAKE THE CAKE
MUSLIMS ARE EVIL LIKE KILLING...................MUBARAK ORDER TO SHOOT THOSE THUGS WHO RA.....PE CIVILIANS AND STOLE THE STORES ....SAME AS THE EVIL MUSLIMS IN LIBYA WHO KILLED RA..........PED AND TORTURED THE LEADER THEN ASK THE PEOPLE TO TAKE PICTURES FOR HIS DEAD BODY!! THEN BARY HIM IN SECRET !? IS THIS IS ISLAM ? WHERE IS THE DIGNITY OF HUMAN BEEN YOU EVIL, SO SHAME USA ARE HELPING THOSE EVIL
IRAN IS HELPING THE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION HEZBOLLAH WHICH 100 TIME WORSE THAN AL QAEDA, IRAN THUGS ARE HELPING SYRIA MINORITY GOVERNMENT WITH MONEY AND WEAPONS M IRAN PAY RUSSIA THE MONEY AND RUSSIAN EVIL EMPIRE BRINGING THE WEAPONS TO SYRIAN SEA PORT,,,,IRAN HELPING IRAQI SHIIA THUGS TO KILL CHRISTEAN'S AND OTHERS, THEY ALSO DESTROYING LEBANON BAHRAIN YEMEN AND HAMAS.....THEY ARE EVIL CULT
, WORSE THAN HITLER..WE MUST ACT NOW, RON PAUL IS THE VILLAGE IDIOT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NO BETTER THAN THIS HALF MUSLIM PRESIDENT ( OBAMA), IRAN DO HAVE WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND WHEN THEY HAVE WORSE THEY WILL USE IT THEY ALREADY MENTIONED THAT ON TV AND IN THE UN GO READ AHMEDI NEJAD SPEECH IN THE UN..... NOW IRAN HELPING CHINA AND THE COMMUNIST VENEZUELA REGIMES...AND EVEN EXPANDING TO AFRICA OPENING SAFE HOUSES UNDER PRAYERS PLACES CALLED HUSAYNIA..!!!THOSE EVIL WILL NEVER STOP UNTIL THEY DESTROY EVERY GOOD IN THIS EARTH......EVIL CAN SMILE AND LIE EVIL CAN SHOW YOU HE IS GOOD...DONT BE FOOL. WORLD PEACE , IRAN DONT HAVE PEACE IN THEIR DICTIONARY.
موقف روسيا والصين هو موقف الغرب كذلك اتجاه الشعب السورى الذى يبذذ من مجرم صهيونى ويحرق من حكمهم وهذا كله امام انظار العالم وهدفهم ان لا تنتصر ثورة السوريين ولا اى ثورة عربية والحمد الشعب غير المواقف بيده وما اسعد واجمل من شعب واعى بحقوقه ويكتشف اعدائه كل يوم وصامد واقف بوجههم جميعا فوحده الشعب السورى من يغير ليس الا مواقف العالم اتجاهه بل يحل ما حل به بداخلهم ليست روسيا ولا الصين بمناى عن ما يحدث بشعوبنا لا بعيدة عن ثورة الشعب حتى بامريكا نفسها والنصر لثورتنا العربية والنصر للشعب
Its bad that terrible comments from Indians have been removed by admin. Those had shown the real face of Indians
Pakistanis pretend as Indians .Wow what a joke.We lost hundred of thousands of Muslims at the time of the creation of Pakistan ,why would we pretend to be Indian.are you nuts.
We are good as Pakistanis , living in US for last 20 years and never felt anything like Indians , my parents left India and came to Pakistan , because they loved Pakistan.As a Muslim we love our ideology then the piece of land.There is nothing that really makes me pretend to be an Indian.Ihave no disrespect for Indians but I feel proud to be a Pakistani.
And please stop using stop using your fake Muslim name. This disgraces a lot of Muslims who have a great love and respect for Pakistan.
saba Please increase your knowledge base. You are talking nonsense, dont make a joke of yourself
Why is truth hard to digest?///////
Dear Saba,
I guess you are defined in the same category as Fareed; reading from your articulate expression of your hatred for All things Pakistani and Muslim?
@Saba: who teained LTTE and caused 80,000 deaths and 300,000 injured in Sri Lanka? answer India
Do you need reference that proves Indians trained LTTE in India, then sponsored them throughout the civil war? Rajiv Gandhi episode was the result of Indian policies. Do you need reference? Do you need proof? You just need to read a bit more, you will find out the facts
You just show your own self once you comment on blog. You are just showing you could not be brought up well by your teachers, thus lack the decency of participating in blogs. This is the real face of shining India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fareed_Zakaria
one has to really see profile of fareed and establish that he is a true indian intelegnec agent implanted in US media very carefully and great planning and its an investment what indian government has done in US media' thats the reason he has been given award by indian government also.
As he has coughed so much of anger hatered in US society against pakistan which indian government could not have done their self, he is biased' anti muslims' anti pakistan' hypocrate and imposter nothing else.