Editor's note: Mohammed Ayoob is University Distinguished Professor of International Relations at Michigan State University and Adjunct Scholar at the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding.
By Mohammed Ayoob - Special to CNN
Some analysts have attributed the recent downing of a U.S. RQ-170 Sentinel high-altitude reconnaissance drone in Iran to that nation's increasingly sophisticated capability to launch cyber attacks. Others have dismissed the idea that Iran was capable of bringing down an RQ-170, arguing that Iranian air defenses do not have the capability to track an aircraft with radar-evading technology.
Either way, the incident clearly demonstrates American concerns regarding Iran's nuclear capacity, as the drone was likely sent over Iranian territory to spy on its nuclear program.
I find the argument that Iran is engaged in developing a nuclear weapons program credible. I am also convinced that Iran will not test a device, but rather will acquire the capability to produce a weapon quickly if its strategic environment deteriorates to such an extent that it feels it must.
I am further convinced that an Israeli or American strike or strikes against its nuclear facilities would put Iran's nuclear program back by a few years but would not be able to terminate it. In fact, such strikes would provide Tehran with the legitimacy to go ahead and acquire nuclear weapons capability in full view of the world and with international sympathy.
It is time for world leaders to recognize the inevitability of Iran acquiring nuclear weapons capability, even if it remains untested, with Tehran following the policy and adopting the rhetoric of deliberate ambiguity. Moreover, the major powers that act as the self-appointed guardians of the current international nuclear order need to recognize that treaties and other legal documents are not the primary determinants when it comes to state decisions regarding acquisition of nuclear capability. It is a country's strategic environment that principally determines such a decision.
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Can you please publicize your "Credible Evidences" that convinced you that Iran will make nuke, so may be the rest of world can also be convinced? Please don't say this and that said so. Be specific please.
Yes. Hundreds of intermediate- and long range ballistic missiles Iran acquired during the last several years which are virtually useless without proper warheads.
They are also completely useless even with nuclear warheads.
Both US and Russia developed elaborate constellations of satellite for the purpose of intelligence information gathering, navigation and telemetry, GPS/GLONASS etc. Iran does not have any, and will not have in any foreseeable future. To aim a long-range ballistic missile one must know precise coordinates of where you are aiming it at. With the exception of a just few fixed targets Iran does not have an means to aim and even ensure that a missile hits an intended point with accuracy better than a 500m at a 5,000km range. This means that you miss the target even with nuclear warhead, if the target is a military objects with basic measures to harden it (say an arms depot or an underground hangar with 5 meter thick dirt layer above 0.5m reinforced concrete).
alexander, i'm sure all they would have to do is get on the internet and google coordinates. doesn't seem like it would be too hard.
The UN should declare that if the dirty evil zionists in illegal israel does not let inspectors into their nuclear sites, then the U.S./NATO should bomb them into compliance with a Nuclear Free Middle East. Create a No-Fly Zone over israel. If Iran cannot have nuclear bombs, the racist apartheid zionists in israel should not have them either.
Vote Ron Paul for president – he will rid America of AIPAC's spies with dual israli and U.S. citizenships from our government. Iran is a peaceful country and does not want war, It is the dirty evil zionists who want war and who want to steal Arab lands. the dirty evil zionists in israel are not our friends!
First off shut up you dirty muslim, you are not even American...secondly, iran is peaceful?? Hahahahahaha, ya right, thats why they killed 300 marines in Beirut, thats why they kill their own people in the streets who are peacefully protesting, thats why they killed hundreds of American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan? Your comment has been completely discredited as you are nothing but a liar...and an uneducated one at that...go tell your bull to people who might believe it like on the Tehran times.....
The tool of hate is Racism and stupidity, obviously this "J" is both.
chris ,
which "J" are you talking about? First or second
J.Pollard,
Well said......
i am not in any way in agreement with this post. To the poster: please do not use my name in your racist, bigoted posts.
ahhhh. j?......ever here of kent state?
I am elated to be a Zionist! I am elated to have the choice of voting either republican or democratic. I am elated to live in a society where I determine my fate and fortune. Islam disallows all of this and enslaves humans to disbelieves and false icons. Before spouting off against proven societies, research your history, research your religions (what one wants to believe in for hope – not reality), and above all research what the majority of the world wants. One note, Islam is not the majority. Good luck to ya!
How about, we just lock you up
for your own safety.
There is no evidence! Just like there was NO evidence of WMD's in Iraq. Israel started this arms race when they acquired their nukes, not long after Israel tried to sell their Nukes to South Africa in 1975 yet there was no concern. Iran poses no threat nor does it threaten any publicized threats are propaganda tools which can easily be debunked with a few minutes. The US has NO gains only colossal loses if they decide to pose war on the sovereign nation of Iran.
Chris, you are an idiot...you have got to be the stupidest sounding commenter on here.....first off Israel did not try to sell nukes to SA, as a matter of fact, if you knew your history and not just what you read on the Syrian times, they developed and tested them together...no buying and selling from eachother...so since you lied about that or are just dumb, the rest of your post is discredited....Israel started the arms race? What, you mean when more then 5 arab countries attacked her and continue to do so? You pathetic left wing pansy.....go get an education then come back and speak with the big boys...you ignorant fool...
DEATH TO IRAN!!!! Oh, dang it! I mixed up the countries again, didn't I?
Hey Marcus,
why Isreal is not part of NPT? answer this question first then we talk.....
hey chris, hows the weather in tehran? are you reading from a script or do you actually own rose colored glasses?
I notice that every time someone posts an intelligent comment on why it's wrong to attack Iran, and point out Israel's obvious hypocricy, the other group can only respond with the most unintelligable remarks.
What part of wipe Israel off the map dont you understand...Iran is peaceful...rotfl!!!!!!
Iran makes continual threats to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. How on earth can you say they pose no threat?? When someone, anyone utters such things, we would take them very seriously.
Once the rest of the world thought Hitler wasn't a threat, and they kept appeasing him with territory. Sudetenland, Czecheslovakia were practically given to him on a silver plate so he would stop being a threat. Did that satisfy him? No, and we had the Second World War to try and stop him.
ummm, all the tech they 'aquire' from us, number 1, all the shady malware attacks that have gone on the last few years that have 'originated' in or near iran....how irans leader always points the blame on others, and NEVER accepts blame on his own. riddle me this!? riddle me that!
The US has already said they will retaliate. The solution is in the works. The time for all this chit chat is over.
Cut the chit chat. The US has already recent said retaliation is on the way. Chances of the US changing plans is nil. Why talk?
Whether we like it or not, Iran wants to go nuclear, out of strategic rationality, which is widely supported in the country, from regime hardliners to opposition and the people in the street. The belligerence the U.S. and Israel recently drove Iran further more into a corner. Indeed the Nuclear Weapon Free Zone (NWFZ) negotiation would be an answer to stability in the region. Iran agrees to it, Israel not, as long as the Palestine issue not reserved. The Congress supports Israel strongly. So there are hurdles to overcome, if the U.S. wants a diplomatic solution.
No one would be willing to attack PEACUL Iran. On the other hand, it's current curse will almost certainly result in a military action
Get real. You blame Arabs for all these wars. The homelessness, displacement, killings, discrimination of the Palestinian does not have anything to do with it??? People of the world eventually wake up and say "enough is enough" regardless of what you and I think.
I have a question regarding your idea of "an answer to stability in the region"... What will the Arab states and Iran do after getting guarantees that Israel has no nukes, in your opinion? You may use the wars of 1948, 1967 and 1973 as a reference.
In the wars of 1948, 1967 and 1973 Israel got away unscahthed! Don't you agree?
Stop attacking Israel and make peace.
Its that simple.
A better question is can the U.S. live with another $4 trillion in debt, which is what a long-term conflict with Iran would likely cost, and the thousands of American lives that would be lost, all in the name of protecting Israel, a country with 300 nuclear weapons who have made clear that they can defend themselves.
Can the US live with the instability a nuclear armed Iranian theocracy would bring to the most stragetically important (because of oil) region of the world? Of course, attacking Iran would bring about instability as well, which is why the US would never attack just to protect its ally Israel.
At this point the best thing to do is monitor and contain. The chances of Iran destroying a US city with an Atomic weapon is low. The ones that need to worry are those that live in Israel. However a strike on Israel would bring a nuclear response to Iran. Its MAD all over again. So no invasion, no bombing by the US. Let it play out and hope the Iranian people can get a handle on their government.
you wrong, we must attack now before it is too late i know them i born among them .Those evil will never sleep until they destroy sunnis, christeans and jews, they will export thier sick revolution and use the bomb to do it.
they have an evil cult for a faith called shiia, they lie and called it taqeya, they are barberain and dont respect life.
The world let Hitler do what he done and it was too late, now we must learn and cut the snake head and crush the snake egs before it posion our planet and kill our people. ahmedi nejad is sick thug and a lier the evil dwil inside of him.USA,UK, FRANCE,GERMANY,NATO MUST ACT NOW , ATTACK NOW AND LET THE INSIDE REVOULTION BEGIN LIKE IN THE MIDDLEAST.
Death to israel and zionism! The evil zionists must be stopped and destroyed. Wiped off the planet. All zionists are evil and they are the devil's children. The zionists hate Christians and Muslim alike. They want to rule the world. Please China nuke israel soon.
You really are an ignorant moron,aren`t you?
"J.polard"
the jewish people are good and very nice people.. it is the government that is a problem... using our governmnet to protect them , using taxpayer money... we need to stop helping others (IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, ISREAL, etc) and help building our powerfull country so noone dare to say sheet about us...
Hey J, I know its gotta be hard going through life all wild-eyed and with saliva dribbling all over. You sound to me like a towel head and apologist for AmadinnerJacket's regime. Newsflash for you, next year we are playing the World Series where Teheran is standing now. Dont take it too personal and I hope you can enjoy a few more months of that fulfilling relationship you enjoy with your camel
@Pepinium
Hey goodluck about ur WorldSeries in Tehran nexr year becareful ur teams plain doesnt get shot down on the way. dont matter what anyone thinks its simple US & Israel just dont have the balls to attack Iran cuz they know this country has too much power around the globe and strong allys. if they couldve attacked they would have done since 1979. remember Iran is MUCH more powerful then Iraq or Afg.
and by the way Iran took down that Drone if its soo high tech US would have some ideas of what happend to it that suddenly they lose control and lands safely right into Iranian military.
its tough to run out of your medicine on a Friday. take a deep breath and lie down, the headaches and paranoia should subside . then you can leave your hut and walk around gaza for a while, chanting "woe is me, its the jews, the zionists, the West, the US, the UK , the Indians, everyone but us" . This mantra has been known to help palestinians cope with their misery.
actually the only people that hate are the Palestinians because its much easier to hate than to think. Jews dont hate muslims or christians and in fact welcomed arab muslims living in Israel as citizens and as part of their government. Your post/ rant is directly from the Palestinian textbooks provided palestinian children and are the root cause of your continued misery.
Dont mind the fool...he's just an Iranian troll
Death to J Pollard, the six year old moron.
See, two can play that game.
*If* the US attacks Iranian nuke facilities they should also destroy Iranian domestic security to help restart the Persian Spring.
"IRAN MUST END" : you are a moran... we can not afford another war you jack... look at our economy.. what don't you go and fix your country yourself... we can not afford more casullty b/c of helping IRAQ, Afghanistan, OR in this case IRAN....dummy ...We are a super power to protect our own people not others ..got it..,,,
YOU MUST BE EITHER AN ARAB, NUMB NUT, OR ALL OF THE ABOVE TO say a stupid thing like that.
See what I did? I insulted you, even though I’m not even sure you are an Arab…even if you are an Arab that does not mean you are a stupid Numb nut…that’s what happens when you try to make a point without thinking and you insult a whole country, people, and culture…Iran was not always Muslim, or in your words Shiaa. Not all the people in Iran think Israel should be wiped off the earth. But only an ignorant full like you would think that and tries to insult…you said you were among the Iranians…I don’t believe you ever were among the true Iranians because if you were you would know that Persian’s, I’m talking about true Persians and not Arabs, coexist with other religions, people, and cultures. Then again, you wouldn’t know that, would you?
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you are dead wrong,israel and iran are both evil empires.the only diffrence is israel is also worlds biggest terrorist?
so nuke the living day light of both evils..............
IRAQ, SYRIA ,HIZBOALLAH, AND IRAN MUST END NOW THOSE EVIL SHIIA CULTS REGIEMS MUST LEARN THAT THE FREE WORLD ARE WATCHING AND THEY WILL ATTACK THEM SOONER OR LATER , AS THEY ARE KILLERS THUGS SHIIA BASTERED.
The "free world" isn't so fee when super powers such as USA or Israel Bomb you with robots if they don't like your policy and laws.
"bomb you with robots"? those video games you are playing are taking up too much of your time. don't they give you any homework to do in ramallah?
@ fred- I think Chris is referring to drones. And they are sorta robots in the sense they dont have a human inside them that is open to the dangers of the mission. I think there is some point to what he is saying- thats a matter of civil discussion. But it seems here that you are the one with no idea whats going on. Sorry- civil, grown up, logical discussions is what this world needs from us. thanks
Stop exporting your terrorism to other countries
and you wont get bombed.
No
if the world live with nuclear israel and america, thn there is no problem in living with nuclear iran
The US and israel and no threat to modern civilization, unlike a nuclear armed Iranian theocracy.
how come all your neighbors, except Assad's syria dont agree. are they all crazy and paranoid, or just you?
Iran hasn't unilaterally attacked another state in hundreds of years. It has been others that have invaded or been hostile to Iran. Iran is an old, sophisticated culture. I believe if they ever develop a nuke weapon (which is not the case) they would act responsibly.
Only if the Persian people regain control of their country from the mullahs.
Your comment pertains to Persian history before the mullahs seized control.
The mullahs seized control from the Shah of Iran, a brutal dictator supported by the United States and Great Britain. People seem to forget that the United States has disposed of an Iranian government before. It was a democratic government. We replaced it with a brutal dictator for oil profits. The fact is, when the US decides to interfere with foreign governments, we burn ourselves in the long run. We must not make the same mistake that we made under the Eisenhower administration. The Iranian government is not suicidal. The worst they will do is proxy wars, which is bad, but we will have to live with it until the Iranian people rise against their government. To do otherwise will only strengthen the Mullahs' power over their country. If we wait, they will fall from within.
@ajax, you can tell the future? "The worst they will do is proxy wars..." Why are you so sure? But I agree they will eventually fall from within, but how long? A year? 10 years? 50? How much damage to the world can they do before hand? Also, the Iranian revolution was fought by many factions, from modern to theocratic, but it was the theocrats that seized control, trading one dictatorship for another.
Very well said... 100% agreed
Well, that settles that/
We should just take flyovers word that everything will be just ducky.
There are tens of thousands of rockets sitting in southern Lebanon
aimed at Israel,
and Hezbollah just itching to fire them off.
All supplied by Iran.
But you would trust these nutballs with a nuke ?
Wow, J. Pollard the zionist Spy and American Traitor, glad you aren't antisemitic in any way.
... you noticed that too huh?
I think we must separate anti-semitism which is the hatred of jewish people/religion to anti-israel comments which are hatred of the policies pursued by the israeli nation. Just as anti-pakistan does not mean anti-muslim or anti-america does not mean anti-christian.
You can call someone a zionist spy/ russian spy without being anti russians or jews.
The emotions we have blind us to the fact that foriegn policies of any nation can get varied responses by those affected.
having said that.... I am neither anti-isreal or know enough about jews to hate them.
Just making a point . I observe this phenomenon a lot in discussions.
The world cannot live with a nuclear Iran because unlike other countries Iran would use them for OFFENSIVE purposes rather than defensive.
Is it really necessary to blame Iran for something they won't actually do.. but worry about the ones with ACTUAL nuclear weapons and how their the bullies of the word(WEST) Iran doesn't threaten anyone
Is it really necessary to blame Iran for something they won't actually do.. but worry about the ones with ACTUAL nuclear weapons and how their the bullies of the word(WEST) Iran doesn't threaten anyone and never has!
@anon "Iran doesn't threaten anyone and never has".
Seriously? Ask a Lebanese Christian about the Iranian backed Hezbollah in their country, or families of
US Marines they killed, or ask an Israeli citizen about Iranian threats to their very existence as a people.
Shall I go on? How about Iranian calls of "Death to America"? That's not a threat?
'cmon, pull the other one.
Death to Israel.
Death to America.
Sounds like threats to me.
So far it seems to be the US that is doing all the offensive wars and threatening other countries.
We need to elect Ron Paul and end our constant search for another war.
What makes people think that Iran is the only game player in the downing our our U.S. RQ-170 drone? Think about it...Russia and China denied UN to impose sanctions against Iran. This is a chess match that the US definitely knows about but remains mum to the public...which is a good thing. We know what we are doing...
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Russia was blocked by WTO not to be a member, at the past 18 Years, in return Russia keep blocking what the West is approved. But now, as Yesterday, after 18 Years, Russia has been welcomed by WTO as full member to trade with the whole World, in return Russia responded positively, by catching the Nuclear parts that has been on the way to Iran, secretly.
It looks, we are going to have the HEALTHY WORLD. Thank you very much!
So Russia can be bribed after all.
so true!! I know those shady malware and virus attacks are coming from China, the NET BOOM town, ppl riddled with computers finding ways to do crap,. we still have malware in our govt that they cant get rid of.....sounds fun huh, and we just 'give' them our high tech drone now.....CIA is lookin great now huh, job openings soon! apply within
Oops, as Today, Russian customs service said, it had seized Radioactive material in the luggage of a passenger bound for Tehran at Moscow's Sheremetyevo International Airport.
The tests showed Radioactive Isotope Sodium-22, that can be used as a result of Nuclear operations.
These good thing happened after Russia welcomed to join WTO after 18 Years waiting time.
It sounds like the 1957 Sputinik terror era is coming to end.
Good job Russia.
Russia's customs service said Friday it had seized radioactive sodium-22, an isotope that is USED IN MEDICAL EQUIPMENT BUT HAS NO WEAPONS USE, from the luggage of a passenger planning to fly from Moscow to Tehran.
Zionest? Everytime I hear that, the user of the word loses credibility. Biased, drawn by religious factions that hasn't been settle since god knows when. Any nation that straight out says they're going to wipe another nation off the map, shouldn't have nuclear weapons. Simple as that. They will use it, and if they do, dooms day. It's not worth it!
If they or we are going to do anything we better $h it or get off the pot..Time is wasting
The U.S. is collecting oil-producing states.
most ignorant comment ive read all day.......canada produces one of the largest in their oil sands....you mine as well say invade canada for their oil capabilities....just shut up
Well said, Voltairine, and so very true!
We have a great collection.
Its not complete yet, but we are working on it.
IRAN was supplied with the nuclear technology in the 1980's by Pakistan (AQ Khan) with the intention of making all the Islamic countries in the middle east, nuclear. If you want to stop IRAN, you will have to go further and get rid of the nuclear weapons from Pakistan too, before it falls in the wrong hands and makes its way to a populated city to be detonated.
You can read more about it in the book "Deception: Pakistan, the United States, and the Secret Trade in Nuclear Weapons "
The times of Fist and Muscle showing is almost...over.
That was Nikita Kruschev vs Richard Nixon + Dweight Eisenhour + JFK, the Sputinik Era, the Four under God's.
When German admitted publicly, "Soviet Union is challenging U.S.A, to look up to the Sky while the American People keep hiding under their beds. It is a frightening time".
Finally, WTO brought peace. The Iran secrets will be revealed by Russia soon. Then Israel will have a deep breath, its Citizens will sleep and travel peacefully and freely, soon. It is good as well, for Iranian peace loving people too.
*** Finally, WTO brought peace...........
WTO answers to the Rothchilds and the Billderbergs.
One world government has nothing to do with peace.
You want to know the truth ?
Find out about the people who actually run this group.
The elite with the money, makes the rules.
Totally missing from this analysis is the inter-Muslim issue of the Shi'a vs. Sunni Wars which have been going on since 632. The countries surrounding Iran are Sunni. Even in Iraq, much of the divisiveness has been between Shi'a vs. Sunni.
Of course Tehran wants to get rid of Israel. This has never been in doubt. But the Muslim countries surrounding Iran are more worried about Iran getting nuclear weapons than they are concerned about Israel, which they know has had nuclear weapons for over 30 years.
Sunni Muslims can predict Israel. They CANNOT predict Shi'a Muslim behavior and that worries them severely.
This is NOT always about Israel or the US. Iranians are Persian. They are NOT Arabs. And this is a really big deal.
sanjosemike
The question was, "Can the world live with a near nuclear Iran?" I am even more concerned about the incredibly moronic group of so called Republicans running for the office of the presidency of the United States. Does anybody really feel that, with the United States' nuclear capabilities, the world will be safer with a Michelle Backman, a Rick Perry, a Newt Gingrich, a Rick Santorum, a Donald Trump as president? Never mind Iran, I'de be scared sh–tless if one of these anti-thinkers becomes the commander in chief of the armed forces!
Now that's one of the most sensible comments I've seen here yet. Thank you, james.
We already have a democrat moron in the White House but he's no danger to anyone because all he does is play golf and laugh at his idiot VP's jokes.
The Republitards don't need an opposition party, their main enemy is the blatant stupidity inherent in many of its members. The constant switching from one clown to another is solid proof that even within that party many cannot stomach the duplicity, ignorance, incompetence, deviousness and outright mediocrity of the choices available.
Best post today, James !
Only Iran can answer that question. And foolishly they will.
Seal Team 6 has proven to be quite effective. I think we may have another job for them.
Seal team 6.....R.I.P.
Iran will be invaded for the same 'declared' reason that Iraq was invaded. Ironically, it will be for the same 'actual' reason as well. The only thing more to be said is that peak oil is real, and the ones with the power to get the oil will benefit the most from the upcomming conflict.
Majority of people in Iran are totally against the Mullah’s and their Islamic regime. The Mullahs knows it and they also know if another war breaks out in Iran it would be their absolute demise . Unlike the 1980, 8 years war with Iraq, there would be no one willing to fight for this Mullah’s and their false cause. The only people who are supporting this regime right now are the ones who are being paid by the government (traitors) or some few remaining idiots who really think they’ll be martyrs in the name of the religion; the religion that killed more Persians than any other invaders in the Persian history.
So, make no mistakes, these Mullahs are not idiots; they know it will be the end of their existence should they go into war with anybody, be it USA or Israel.
Never the less, their end is near and ones again and hopefully this time for good, the Persians will be free from this barbaric invaders and find their true place in the world as a culture that contributed so much to the mankind.
The author seems to have forgotten that in addition to everything being the US and Israels fault in the Middle East, that Iran has called for the total destruction of Israel and the Zionist supporters, supports Hizballah, and Hamas, and suppressed their own people calling for free and open elections. It would seem that both sides need to step away from the short sightedness and paranoia that infects both countries.
And yet inspite of all the satellites that America touts it possesses, it could not detect when India conducted nuclear test.
Go FIGURE!!!!!!!!
Why not? The world lives with a nuclear America. And we actually used it on a city filled with people.
Let's rattle our sabers and drum up support for yet another war the U.S. has no money to fund, into yet another oil-producing Muslim nation. Obviously the military industrial complex and big oil are not yet making near enough money at the expense of the American people. 300,000+ dead civilians in Iraq notwithstanding. Let's push this thing all the way to Armageddon. Let's not stop at Gog and Magog. Like bulls to the slaughter, lets all charge our way into the final tribulation.
You have an interesting view of world events. A completely plausible one I might add. Let's get to the "other side" of all this conflict – may be what it takes for the world to survive
The theocracy that rules Iran is an objectively vile regime, sponsoring terrorist activity in other countries and crushing a democratic republic at home. They have no legitimate rights that anyone must respect. It is a calamity for their region and for the world if they have nuclear weapons. Mindless anti-Americanism on this website does not excuse the Iranian regime for being what it is. Anti-Zionist or anti-Jewish comments also seem to find their way into the discussion, because the cause of the Ayatollahs and the Jihadis and Muslim supremacists and traditional fascism is the same, a police state that violates the rights of men anywhere to think for themselves.
in a word .... NO
Why should Iran remove their nuclear program? The law needs to apply to everybody equally. When you discriminate against some countries and put other countries above the law, you turn the law into a farce. Then the international order breaks down and you are left with "Might Makes Right". That may be good for War Inc., but perpetual war is not good for ordinary people.
If you are concerned about nuclear weapons, why not agree to Iran's proposal for a nuclear-FREE zone in the Middle East. When the U.N. General Assembly voted on this proposal, the U.S. and Israel were the only two countries to vote against. That tells us which countries put their FAITH in nukes and which countries do not.
I think you overestimate the power of death and destruction – e.g., you can not use nukes to educate children or grow crops or sustain an economy or build a house. And you project your own infatuation with nuclear bombs onto other countries. Not all countries idolize nukes the way you do. Iran has explicitly rejected them, and years of inspections have turned up NO evidence that Iran is developing nukes.
That is a chess game in which Israel, assumed to already has nuclear weapons, surrenders those weapons and is overrun in yet another two-front or three-front war. At that time several million Jewish Israelis are killed, the states of the Greater Syria region release their own detainees from holding camps, and a unified Palestine corresponding to the 1947 British Mandate territory is ruled just as Gaza is now, a violent, one-party sharia police state regime, known for corruption and bankruptcy.
you can't really believe that.
Well stated, koroush. Actually, our own Republican Party along with all these right-wing nitwits pose a far greater danger to this country than does Iran. What makes me most angry here is the fact that France gets 82% of it's electricity from nuclear power and nobody says anything while every goes ballistic over Iran. This double standard is repulsive!!!
Did France ship its Jews to Germany in ralroads cars that need nuclear power? No. So the problem predates nuclear power. It began when men decided to appease evil.
Its been said beofre, needs repeating.
Arabs put down thier weapons, we get peace.
Israelis put down thier weapons, they get destruction.
To Israel, never give up your weapons.
Why the big worry if Iran gets a nuclear bomb? Would not a simple statement from the US and or Britain, France or Russia to Iran such as. The attack on any country by Iran with nuclear weapons and Iran will cease to exist. The same can be said to said to N. Korea.
It worked all through the Cold War. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction but in this case only one side is destroyed.
Let Israel and Iran have the same offsetting deal.
Nuclear weapons are great for threatening but you can't really use them if you want to exist.
The problem with that is you sacrifice the victims of the first use of those nuclear weapons. Is that an acceptable price?
ChuckBd
The alternate seems to be a 9 year war such as Iraq with 100,000 dead. I don't see why we put up with this cr-p from these chicken sh-t countries. Make the statement and be prepared to back it up. I would think it would only have to be done once.
I just dont get it!! why only Senator Carl Levin, Feinstein, Sherman and Berman are pushing the sanctions against Iran? is this a political problem or these few Non-American Pro-Israeli politicians are pushing for another war? I dont agree with what President Ahmadinejad said about Israel but at the same time I have problem with these powerfullll Jewish Senators are working for Israel on behalf of Americans and playing games
I have a problem with your not attacking Jewish shopkeepers. The Germans had some follow-through, unlike lazy emo boys in America. C'mon, if you're going to be outraged about the 2% of the country that's not perfect like yourself, where's the gumption?
ALKJELAB AL IRANEEN , AL KHAWANA WELD AL MOT3A , THOSE THUGS AND KILLERS ARE HELPING SYRIA AND HEZBOLLAH TO KILL CIVILIANS THEY SHOULD BE ATTACKED NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
KUL SHIIE3Y JABAN KHAYEN MOJREM , LA3ANAKUM ALLAH
NORI AL HALEKI AL KALB, MOQTADA AL QATHER AL JABAN
IRAQ =IRAN=SYRIA-HIZBOALLAH= SHII3A THUGS KILLERS , WHY USA HELPING THE SHIIA THUGS
FUC........................IRAN AND AHMEDI NEJAD,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,FUC...........................ALL EVIL IRANIANS WHO PRAY TO KHOMEINI.......................THOSE ARE EVIL
AND FUC MOQTADA AL QATHER IN IRAQ AND FUC BASHAR AL ASAD THOSE ARE KILLERS ..FUC AHMAD NEJAD.
This guy looks like a 1970s lounge lizard. Somebody needs to tell him he's living in the wrong decade. What a creep!
How many other nations have nuclear capability? Why Israel and not Iran? Bring balance into the equation.
Why should the Nazis have attacked London with V-2 rockets? Moral equivalence between Churchill and Hitler?
Your counter-argument is weak. He's made a good point.
israel is and ally of the US and the West in general and has a democracy, flawed, but all democracies are.
If Israel has nukes, its not a problem for us in the West.
Iran is ruled by a brutal theocracy with regional and even global ambitions. If they acquire nukes it is a stragetic threat.
Israel – defence.
Iran – offence.
No balance in that.
I am European but I am fed up with Israel to be indulged for all their crimes and that Americans tell us who the bad guys are. Interestingly these bad guys are the ones with the oil. While Israel has nuclear weapons I do not care if Iran has them.
Well, you're European until they deport you.
**** fed up with Israel to be indulged
Definitly NOT European.
Janis, let us know when you will be upset with all of the crimes
commited by Arabs against Jews, ok.
Maybe you can tell it to the mother who lost her 12 year old daughter
when an Arab terrorist blew up her bus.
I am an American, and if somebody was attacking my country
you bet they would get the wrath of my god.
Long Live Israel !!!
Americans, it's okay to want to change public opinion (presumably for a future attack) but don´t account with Europe, If we need money we´ll pay for it instead of making war
You Europeans have a long history of moving into to other people's lands and taking their things. You have no moral high ground here. You couldn't wait to jump into Libya.
England, Spain, France, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands,
have caused more damage on this planet than any other group on earth.
Cultures in South America, central america exterminated.
Far east drug and oil trade.
African enslavement and natural resources pillaged.
The Roman empire, Napolean, Nazi germany.
But now we have the nice, new shiney...Euro.
Americans, it's okay to want to change public opinion (presumably for a future attack) but don´t account with Europe, If we need oil we´ll pay for it instead of making war
Or connive to steal it like you usually do.
Make sense much?
Perhaps if Americans did not consent all of Israel (gaza killings, illegal settlements, land theft in Palestine) would solve much of the problems with the Arab world
Perhaps if muslims wouldn't go around threatening the entire non-muslim world.
Seriously? If Israel "behaves" then the problems in Kashmir, Chechnya, Phillipines, etc would all disappear and there would be no more Islamic jihad?
The current state of Israel was once owned by:
The Roman Empire
The Byzantine Empire
The Ottoman Empire
The British Empire.
So please explain how Israel is stealing palestinian lands ?
There are NO Palestinians.
Just Jordanian Arabs.
Please stop spreading lies.
Continuous distractions from the Teheran regime by mentioning Israel. What a Jihadi scam.
Why not? We already live with a nuclear Pakistan and they are the biggest supporters of terrorism in the world. They proved that to everyone when they were caught hiding Osama next to their military training facility.
So...why exactly Americans will attack this time? underground nuclear bases? to defend "freedom"?, to end the regime that trains terrorists "... are you going to use your British puppet as usual?
ridiculous comment
What's ridiculous about it? Every time one of the group that are against attacking Iran makes an intelligent comment, all you "pro-attack" war mongers can only come up with unintelligable comments?
The United States is just a crown colony of the British Empire.
We are not even a country.
We are a Corporation.
Nation states will no longer survive.
Join the world Earth federation
or be obliterated.
There is NO choice.
man wish every one could justlive life and not worry about bombs and so on its to short to worry about the bs
I don´t see it so ridiculous ...Actually everybody less americans are thinking this. What have you got in Afghanistan? did you change the life of their citizens? did you finish with talibans? I think that not, but of course, probably your companies got fantastic contracts with nickel and more minerals. and Irak? did you find the weapons of mass destruction? actually why did u attack them? because of his dictator? why don´t you attack every country with dictator?
It doesn´t matter if they got nuclear technology or what they want to do with it, anyway americans will find out some good reason to make war.
Ridding the world of religious psychopaths is a fine reason to make war.
That is exactly the very same arguement that Iran makes against Israel!!!!! Our narcissism makes us feel that our thoughts are right and theirs are wrong-- even if the thought is exactly the same.
Religion should never be a reason for war- its manmade and myth and is just not important (although we are brainwashed to believe it is)
Pakistan has them, India has them, N Korea has them, Israel has them, we have 5000, and we think we cannot live with a nuclear Iran. Just a bit hypocritical and delusional.
you rock! rrock
Theocracies are the worst form of dictatorships. Their maniacs want to die. No deterent exists for them.
Better question is:
Can the world live with a US? US going mad.
Both India and pakistan have nuclear weapons. But the world worries about Pakistani nuclear arms. Both US and China have nuclear weapons- but we worry about China. If both Israel (already does) and Iran have nuclear weapons we will worry about Iran.
But if you ask Pakistanis and Iranians and chinese – they would worry about India, Israel and US.
Let me ask a question– if India, Isreal and the US decide to destroy our nucler weapon capability.... would China, Iran and Pakistan ( 3rd world countries with very poor people) still want/ have their populations mandate to pursue more nuclearization????
everyone in this debate...from any side...is biased.
Ok, I've heard this one before. Only last time it was Iraq; I went there, didn't find any nuclear weapons. Unless you are personally willing to ship out tomorrow morning and take part in combat operations against Iran, then drop it. What a distraction. Iranian backed terrorist groups kill all the time with conventional weapons, but they smile with glee at this discussion because they know they can go on flying under the radar while we all blather on about nukes Iran doesn't have. Wake up and quit helping Hezbollah.
Israel has never threatened nor traded blows with Iran. Why should Iran be so concerned with Israel. Iran is shia and seems to despise the sunni as much as they do anyone else. Israel is surrounded by sunni muslims so what is the concern of Iran with regard to Israel ?
They are threatening Iran all the time. Do you actually bother reading the news? How many times has Israel and the US threatened military action – no option off the table?
If I were Iranian, I would want Iran to exit the NPT and produce nuclear weapons. This would be the only way Iran could ensure that it will not be attacked. I would also hurry to test detonate one to show my enemies that they had better think twice before attacking me.
**** How many times has Israel and the US threatened military action – no option off the table?
ZERO !
The comments sections in these Iran articles show a really clear pattern. With increasing frequency, people these days are now posting intelligent comments listing the very numerous reasons why it's a bad idea and simply not right to attack Iran, and point out the hypocrisy of the countries that would attack. But then you read the Reply comments from the other group which immediately follow, and they are all so un-intelligable: "You're just an idiot,".."Because we can" etc. etc. Sorry war-mongers. Why don't you guys just all admit that a) you're in the minority. b) you've lost
Madoff for President!! Jack Abramoff for VP, Strauss Kahn Cohen for Department of Health Secretary, Goldman Sachs Blankfein for Department of Treasury, and will have a peacefulllllll world
Can world live with nuclear US? After all, the US is the only country ever to have used nuclear weapons in combat...
المالكي ... " انتهى الاحتلال يا غبي " ...
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الربيع العربي لم يصل مداه إلى مصر أو تونس ويبدأ بنخر بنيتهما الحكوميّة والاجتماعيّة باسم "الانتفاضة العربيّة الكبرى" فوقف عند هذا الحدّ .. لكن هذا الربيع امتدّ ليدمّر ليبيا تدميراً كبيراً وأدخلها في فوضى وأنفاق مظلمة واحتراب لا نهاية له .. كذلك وليبقى هذا الربيع على البحرين معلّقة في الهواء بانتظار نهايتها الحتميّة البادية للعيان وزوال حكم "المملكة" ولتكن بعدها ما تكون , ثمّ لينتثر عبق الربيع هذا إلى زوايا وأركان دولة اليمن "السعيد" وليطيح ببنيته العشائريّة المدجّجة بالتسلّح حدّ الأسنان فرديّا وجماعيّاً .. كما ولم يقف الربيع عند اليمن بل سبقها إلى سوريا الّتي بدورها بدأت لهزّات أغصان وروده الحمراء تهتز لها جدران حكومة الاحتلال المنصّبة في بغداد المتهرّئة البالية أصلاً , وهو موضوعنا هنا ..
حكومة الاحتلال هذه كشف عن شكلها ولونها وطعمها بشكل أوضح ربيع الفساد والدماء الّتي عانا منها شعب العراق كثيراً " المالكي وشخوص من بطانته يعترفون بهذا النوع من الربيع ولكن بشكل معكوس !" قبل أن تنتقل عدواه إلى البلدان العربيّة ومن ثمّ ليطال عواصم مهمّة من بلدان العالم , فعند تتبّع خطوات التغيير الّتي تسلّلت إلى ملامح الوطن العربي وإلى بنيته الاجتماعيّة بعد احتلال العراق نجد أنّ هذه الحكومة هي الّتي صدّرت ثمار فسادها وطائفيّتها بعد أن نضجت وأينعت في العراق طوال سنوات الاحتلال الثمان , ليس للبلدان العربيّة وحسب ولكنّ تخطّتها مسيرة التسلّل تلك إلى شوارع ومدن أوروبّا وإلى وول ستريت وإلى شوارع موسكو ..
أعضاء حكومة بغداد تعوّدت على ممارسة الفساد ولن ينفعها إصلاح , وفي نفس الوقت تعوّدت على من يقف إلى جانبها وهي تمارس تدمير العراق بفسادها المسرطن لكلّ ركن من أركان الحكم في العراق , لذلك فليس بالمستغرب علينا أن نستمع لصيحات وصراخ أعضاء هذه الحكومة الفاسدون بين آونة وأخرى وهم يستغيثون بالمحتلّ مع كلّ خطوة اقتراب من موعد رحيله من العراق , وما صرّح به أخيراً أحد أعضاء الحكومة الخضراء النائب عن تحالف "الوسط" المنضوي في "القائمة العراقية" عيفان العيساوي قائلاً : الانسحاب الأميركي من العراق نهاية العام الحالي بأنه "خطأ فادح وكبير" !! إلاّ نموذجاً لما نقول , مع أنّ العيساوي قد اتّهم الاحتلال بتدمير العراق ولكنّه نسي في تصريحه هذا أنّ الخطأ الأميركي الحقيقي الفادح والكارثيّ المتعمّد الّذي ارتكبته الإدارة الأميركيّة المجرمة هو عندما أتت هذه الإدارة بالعيساوي وأتت بمن معه من هم مثله ممّن أتوا خلف الدبّابة الأميركيّة لتنصّبهم حكّاماً على شعب العراق لتذيق هذا الشعب بعمالة هؤلاء المزدوجة وبتخلّفهم وبأحقادهم وبطائفيّتهم , ومنهم المالكي نفسه , جميع صنوف وجميع ألوان وأشكال العذاب والآلام , والّتي يتذوّق زبدها حالياً العرب جميعاً بربيعهم هذا , استمرّ يعاني من كوارثها شعب العراق طيلة حكمهم الأفسد عالميّاً ..
الشأن السوري وما وصلت إليه أزمته لم يكن بعيداً في الافصاح أكثر بما بات يصرّح به أعضاء هذه الحكومة وليس العيساوي وحده , تصريح بعد تصريح , كشفت ازمة سوريّا بشكل كامل عن الجهة الّتي تقف وراء مثل هذه المواقف الّتي اتّخذتها الحكومة المنصّبة لتبرير "عدم موافقتها" للانضمام إلى طوابير الحكومات العربيّة الّتي كانت وراء اتّخاذ قرار "العقوبات" الّتي صدرت ضدّ سوريا , ودفعتهم سياسات تلك الجهة أو تلك الجهات لأنّ يعلنوا موقفهم الرافض لأيّة عقوبات "اقتصاديّة" على أيّ بلد "في العالم" ! لأنّها , بحسب قناعات الجهة الّتي تسيّسهم بهذا الاتّجاه ستمسّ وستطال "الشعوب" ولن تطال الأنظمة !! .. نسوا أعضاء هذه الحومة الخضراء تأييدهم المستمرّ سابقاً لاستمرار حصار "بلدهم" العراق !!! ..
النظام الإيراني بمعطياته المعروفة على أرض العراق بكلّ تأكيد هو من يقف خلف قرارات هذه الحكومة العميلة المزدوجة الولاء بما يخصّ الشأن السوري بدون أدنى شكّ ... كما وأنّ حكومة إيران هي أيضاً من كانت تقف خلف التحريض لاستمرار العراق ؛ إمعاناً من إيران ومن عملائها "حكّام عراق اليوم" في ذلك الوقت , في زيادة خنق الشعب العراقي والضغط عليه بمزيد من العقوبات الاقتصاديّة كلّما شعروا أنّ العقوبات لا تأتي مفعولها الكامل على الشعب العراقي وطالما أنّ العراقي قد وصل به الجوع لمن كان يتمتّع من العراقيين ببعض الميّزات في سنوات الحصار ؛ لأن يبيع شبابيك بيته ومروحته وأبواب وأثاث البيت طالما لم يصل به الجوع بعد لبيع جدران بيته ولبيع أولاده ! رغم أنّ هنالك من فعلها! .. نسوا هؤلاء المجرمون كلّ ذلك ..
النظام السوري , بحسب ما تصوّره إيران عبر وكلائها للشعب العراقي , إذا ما تمّت الإطاحة به , سيتعرّض الحكم في العراق لميليشيات "المجاميع المسلّحة السوريّة" ! فيصيب العراق "الخراب والدمار" على أيدي تلك "الميليشيّات" !!! .. يطرحها المالكي وأعضاء حكومته بدون خجل ظنّاً منهم أنّ مثل هذه الأقاويل ستمرّ بسلام وستتجاوز مُدركات شعب يعيش يومه بطوله لا هاجس له سوى اتّقاء شرّ المليشيّات الّتي تغذّيها إيران وما ارتبط بها من فساد ودماء طيلة ثمانية أعوام من احتلال بلد هذا الشعب , في وطن يُعتبر من أغنى بلدان الكون "بحسب توصيف ميتيران رئيس فرنسا الأسبق" هذا الشعب الّذي يعي تماماً أنّ بلدهم يعيش حالة من الخراب والدمار والإذلال والتدهور والتخلّف والمصير المجهول والفساد والدماء والأمّيّة والبطالة ما يجعله دوماً يتراوح في صدارة قائمة أكثر بلدان العالم تخلّفاً وإفلاساً وجهلاً وفساداً , حيث لا ماء نقي ولا كهرباء ولا تعليم تربوي صحيح ولا بنى تحتيّة ولا طبقة وسطى ولا قرار سيادي مستقلّ ولا آليّات أو ستراتيجيّات حقيقيّة تفرغ التدفّق السنوي للخريجين أو الأيدي العاملة عموماً وتنتظمهم في مسارات توظيفيّة صحيحة.. بعد كلّ ذلك ؛ ويريد المالكي أن يخوّف شعب العراق من "الميليشيّات" السوريّة !..
رئيس حكومة الاحتلال , المالكي , يريد أن يستمرّ بحكم العراق رغم تخلّي المحتلّ الّذي نصّبه , عن العراق ! , وهو ما يشير إلى وجود خلل محوري عضوي في العقليّة القياديّة الّتي تحكّمت بمصير العراق وما آل إليه من دمار شامل طيلة وجود المحتلّ .. وهذا الخلل العضوي في البنية "الحاكمة" هو الّذي يدفع بالتصوّر المُدرك لمثل هذا النوع من العقليّة القياديّة الفاقدة للتحسّس البايلوجي القيادي المستقرء للمحيط لأن تكون بالتالي تصوّرات تلك البنية الفاسدة ذات آفاق مموّهة غير مُدركة إدراكاً حقيقيّاً لمسارات واتّجاهات الزمن السياسي المقبلون عليه بعد رحيل المحتلّ حين سيُتركون في العراء بدون غطاء متين حاضن ! , وهذا ما دلّل على وجود مثل هذا الخلل المالكي نفسه عندما طرح تصوّرات مغلوطة لا تصلح من الآن فصاعداً , غير مُدرَكة , ترفضه مَلَكَة المخاتلة الّلاجئة لديه ولدى أعضاء حكومته دوما باتّجاه الاعتماد في الحماية على الآخر ؛ عندما طرح من جديد , وكأنّه لا زال يعيش زمنه "السايكوباثي" توّجه بصولة فرسانه "إلاّ إذا كان هناك سرّاً لا نعرفه بينه وبين المحتلّ!" , قائلاً : أدعو الجماعات المسلّحة للانخراط في العمليّة السياسيّة ! ..
المالكي عضو من أعضاء حكومة الاحتلال الّتي نصّبها المحتل ودخل في :
1 . انتخابات بغير ما يقرّه القانون الدولي , ومع أنّها جرت كذلك اعترف منظّموها أنّها انتخابات مزوّرة " بما لن ينفعه معها اللفّ والدوران أو التزوير في حرف حقائق التأريخ !..
2. ثبّته المحتلّ عنوةً رغماً عن إرادة العراقيين كرئيس حكومة للمرّة الثانية في انتخابات سيذكر التاريخ مستقبلاً ويردّد أنّ المالكي خسرها ! ..
و المالكي "رئيس حكومة غير شرعي , وهو بالتالي وفق ضميره المُنتهك لا همّ له سوى إرضاء المحتلّ لا إرضاء الشعب ! حتّى أصبحت العلاقة بينه وبين المحتلّ علاقة "أيْضِيّة" لا غنى له عنه , وطروحاته المرتبكة الأخيرة والّتي صدرت عنه , فبدا وكأنّه لا يستطيع مغادرة الماضي , بعد أن يأس من بقاء المحتلّ يحميه ويحمي أمثاله حتّى ولو بصيغة مدرّبين , أو حتّى بصيغة "حمّالين" في الشورجة أو باعة متجوّلون ! ؛ توّجها بمحاولة تسليط الأضواء عليه وإبقائها كذلك وكأنّه هو من يطلب "إزاحة تمثاله من على منصّة المنطقة الخضراء وإبقاء عدسات التصوير مسلّطةً عليه بالتزامن مع خروج المحتلّ من العراق وليس دخوله إليه !" عندما ادّعى أنّه هو المستهدف من "تفجير البرلمان" لا النجيفي ! وكأنّه بنفس الوقت أراد إبعاد الفاعل الحقيقي ( والّذي هو من فعلها وليس غيره وبتخطيط إيراني ) وليس ذلك بالأمر المستغرب أو المستبعد لمتخبّط وصولي غير بعيد عن طموح "سيناركي" وسلطوي مثله , خاصّة مع كون مقتل النجيفي "ذو الميول التركيّة" تصبّ في مصلحته هو قبل غيره ..
من المستحيل , وبعد أن خرج المحتل من أرض العراق بهمّة رجاله المقاومون وبعنفوان شعبه الصابر الحرّ الغيور .. من المستحيل من الآن فصاعداً أن يتعامل شعب عظيم وعي مسيرة الزمن وأظمها بصوت اخترعه اسمه "تاريخ" أن يقبل بمثل المالكي أو بمثل من هو مثله ومثل أعضاء حكومته .. وليفهم المالكي ذلك وليفهم كلّ من يرهن إرادته وإرادة العراق بجهة خارج العراق ..
down with evil iran down with evil syrian government down with iraq and nori al haleki all those are terrorists, down with Hezbollah we must get red of those evil
I hope Americans got enough lessons in Iraq war.
Has the author actually read what kind of airstrikes it would take to take out the nuclear facilities? The facilities that he is talking about are in underground hardened bunkers. We only have one weapon that could penetrate and destroy a hardened shelter. And that is s nuclear weapon.
Is he or anyone advocating dropping a nulcear bomb on Iran in order to prevent them from developing a nuclear bomb? Depending on the way the wind is blowing, the radiative materials from such a blast could potentially kill tens of millions of people in Iraq, Pakistan and India.
Are we so insane that we would seriously considering this option?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2006/04/are_we_really_going_to_nuke_iran.html
i personally dont like arabs... any of them... dont care too much for jews either....
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مجاميع اغتيالات وتخريب ايرانيه تابعه ( لفيلق القدس الايراني ) تتواجد حاليا في قرية ( قره بلاغ ) الايرانيه وتتكون هذه القوه من مجاميع ايرانيه وعراقيه منها مجموعة المجرم " ابو درع وتتألف من ( 250 ) عنصر تتواجد هذه القوه في منطقة ( خسروي ) الايرانيه وتفيد معلومات مصادرنا ان هذه القوه دخلت الى محافظة ديالى فعلا وعلى شكل دفعات .
الاهداف المرسومه لخلية فيلق القدس
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ستقوم هذه الخليه التي تتكون من " ايرانيين " و" عراقيين " بتنفيذ العمليات التاليه :
1- تنفيذ عمليات ارهابيه بسيارات مفخخه تستهدف بيوت ( عشائر سنيه ) ، اعضاء مجلس محافظه ، حسينيات شيعيه ، قيادة شرطة المحافظه .
2- تنفيذ عمليات اغتيال طائفيه تشمل مناطق ( الخالص – المقداديه – التحرير – المعلمين ) .
الاهداف المرسومه لمجموعة " ابو درع "
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1- مهاجمة مناطق سنيه وتهجير" السنه" من محافظة ديالى .
2- مهاجمة مقر " مجاهدي خلق " بالتعاون مع المدعو ( ابو زينب الخالصي ) .
ستنفذ هذه العمليات الارهابيه والتهجير والاغتيالات بالتنسيق مع الاجهزه الامنيه الحكوميه والجيش .
تتابع المنظمه اسماء القيادات والعناصر الارهابيه التي ستدخل محافظة ديالى وسننشرها لاحقا حال ورودها الينا .
منظمة الرصد والمعلومات الوطنيه
LET US NOT FORGET SEPT 11, THOSE MUSLIMS SHIIA , IRAN, HIZBOALDAWA, HEZBOLLAH, AL MAHDI ARMY, QODOS ARMY BESAJ, IRAN SPECIAL FORCE AND WAHABIES.
ARE KILLERS MURDERERS THUG AND TERRORISTS WHY USA HELPING THE SHIIA IN IRAQ AND NOT DOING NOTHING TO THOSE SHIIA IN SYRIA ........USA SHAKING HANDS WITH EVIL
ATTACK IRAN NOW, GET RED OF SYRIA THE EVIL HAND OF IRAN NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
منظمة الرصد والمعلومات الوطنيه
ليطلع الشعب العراقي وكل القوى الوطنيه وفصائل المقاومه العراقيه على الدور الذي يلعبه الايراني " علي زندي " الملقب بالاديب وزير التعليم العالي والقيادي في حزب الدعوه في تنفيذ المخطط الايراني بتصفية الاساتذه والعلماء وضباط المخابرات والجيش
وردتنا معلومات دقيقه ومؤكده من مصدر يعمل في مكتب وزير التعليم العالي مفادها ما يلي :
خليه تابعه لما يسمى " عصائب اهل الحق " ستنشط في بغداد – مدينة الثوره تدار هذه الخليه من قبل مدير مكتب وزير التعليم العالي والبحث العلمي ( علي الاديب ) ويشرف عليها بشكل مباشر مدير مكتبه المقدم ( ماجد الغراوي ) .. اسمه الحقيقي ( علي اكبر اصفهاني ) وهو من سكنة محافظة كربلاء تم تسفيره في زمن النظام الوطني .. والده كان يرتبط بمخابرات الشاه قبل ان يستولي " الخميني " على السلطه وبنفس الوقت كان ينسق مع الحلقه الضيقه المقربه من الخميني قبل اشهر قليله من قيام ما يسمى ( الثوره الاسلاميه ) وبعد سقوط الشاه ارتبط بالمخابرات الايرانيه ( شعبة النجف وكربلاء وسامراء ) قبل ان تستحدث المخابرات الايرانيه كوزاره بأسم " الاطلاعات " تم كشفه من قبل رجال المخابرات العراقيه الابطال واكتفت الحكومه في حينها بتسفيره الى ايران ..
اما ابنه موضوع معلوماتنا المدعو ( ماجد ) فهو ضابط في الاطلاعات الايرانيه وهو معين بامر الاطلاعات كمدير لمكتب وزير التعليم العالي وهو من قاد حملة " اجتثاث " الاساتذه في محافظة صلاح الدين وله الدور البارز في حملة الاعتقالات الاخيره ..
الخليه المرتبطه بهذا المجرم الايراني مكلفه بالمهام التاليه :
1- استلام المعلومات من مدير مكتب الاديب عن الاساتذه والطلاب في كل من مجمع ( كليات باب المعظم ) والجامعه المستنصريه من الذين يعتبروهم بعثيين والاساتذه من الطائفه ( السنيه ) لغرض تصفيتهم واختطافهم وتسليمهم للاطلاعات الايرانيه المتواجدين في وزارة التعليم العالي وباسماء وهميه على انهم عراقيون وموظفين في الوزاره ..
2- القيام بعمليات اغتيال تشمل ( ضباط المخابرات السابقين / ضباط الجيش السابق / الشرطه ) وغالبا ما تجري عمليات الاغتيال على طريق محمد القاسم في المنطقه المحصوره بين الجامعه المستنصريه ومعارض السيارات في منطقة " النهضه " ..
3- المعلومات تفيد ان الخليه لها تنسيق مع عناصر المرور في مقر ما يسمى بشركة ( الضلال ) التابعه لمديرية المرور العامه ..
اسماء عناصر الخليه
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أ- رحمن شبوط
ب- علي وادي علي
ت- مالك جبار
ث- محمد علي مندي
ج- احمد عوده
ح- كرار حسين
خ- طه سلمان
د- طه فرهود عمران
ذ- عقيل عيدان
ر- سرمد كريم
ز- هاني راضي
س- علي فيصل غازي
ش- عبد الله هاشم
ص- قاسم عباس فاضل
الخليه لهم اوكار في مدينة الثوره وفي العناوين التاليه :
• الجوادر – محله 552 – زقاق23 – دار 27 ( بيت شبوط ) .
• الجواد – محله 529 – زقاق12 – دار15 ( بيت عيدان ) .
• الجوادر – محله 555 – زقاق 43 – دار 1 على 3 – ( بيت الشيخ ) .
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المدعو / علي زندي / شقيقه عضو في مجلس الشورى الايراني وهو الرجل الثاني بعد المالكي في قيادة حزب الدعوه واسناد وزارة التعليم العالي لهذا الايراني المجرم الحاقد على كل ما هو عراقي وعربي جاء بناءا على اوامر من مكتب الخامنئي .
نقول للمالكي " الكذاب" الذي يكثر من اللقاءات هذه الايام ويتحدث عن العلم والعلماء وهو الذي يقتل الاستاذه والعلماء ويسير خلف جنائزهم ويمارس جلاوزته اقسى انواع التعذيب بحق الاستاذه والعلماء في المعتقلات .. لذلك نحذر وبشده اساتذة الجامعه من موجة الاغتيالات التي ستنفذها مليشيات على زندي ومليشيات المالكي واجهزته القمعيه ولنا عوده اخرى بمعلومات مفصله عن الخطه الايرانيه التي ينفذها علي زندي
Wow, i didnt know you could curse in arabic.
Short of a military strike against disperesed and hardened targets which is certain to result in attacks on the US an its alliies, there is no way to prevent Iran from fielding nuclear weapons at some point.
We've learned to live with the Soviets and the bomb, the Chinese and the bomb, the French and the bomb. We can live with Iran and the bomb.
If the world can live with a nuclear Israel, yes, the same world can live with a near-nuclear Iran.
Iran Nuclear could be the Obama legacy. Millions of people could likely be murdered because Obama could not make a decision. Obama will be known as the world leader without balls or brains!
George Bush had this problem on his desk for eight years
and did NOTHING !
Now you blame President Obama !
Wow.
IRAN IS EVIL
قل: (الدين الشيعي)... ولا تقل: (الطائفة الشيعية)
فالتشيع دين معادٍ للإسلام ويعمل على تقويضه من الداخل، سلاحه في ذلك النفاق الذي ينطلي على الكثير من أهل السنة "الطيبين". ومخطئ من يظن أن ما بيننا وبينهم مجرد اختلافات ثانوية في الفروع دون الأصول. فأركان الإسلام عندهم غيرها عندنا: صلاتهم غير صلاتنا، وصومهم ليس كصومنا (من حيث التوقيت وبعض التفاصيل الأخرى)، وزكاتهم لا تشبه زكاتنا، وهكذا بالنسبة للحج. أما بالنسبة للقرآن الذي هو دستور المسلمين فهو محرف بزعمهم. بل حتى أعيادنا لا يشتركون معنا فيها. وقل الشيء عينه عن المناسبات التاريخية الإسلامية، فما يسرنا منها يسوؤهم وما يسوؤنا يسرهم. ورموز الإسلام الذين نجلهم يلعنهم الشيعة ويسبونهم، والمصائب التي ألمت بالأمة الإسلامية كمقتل سيدينا عمر وعثمان – رضي الله عنهما- يتخذون من تواريخها أعيادا يجددون فيها أفراحهم – وهذا ما لم يفعله اليهود ولا النصارى.
ويكفي الشيعة بعدا عن الإسلام ابتداعهم ركنا جديدا لم ينزل به الله من سلطان، وهو "الإمامة" التي تلزم – بزعمهم- الاعتقاد بولاية علي (رضي الله عنه) وأحقيته في الخلافة وتكفير من يقدم الخلفاء الثلاثة (رضي الله عنهم) عليه. وحسب هذا الركن المخترع، فإن جميع أهل السنة كفار- ما يفسر إيغالهم في دمائنا وأعراضنا ومقدراتنا في العراق وغيره.
وهنا أهيب بكل سني يرجو من الشيعة خيرا أو يعول على شراكتهم في الوطن أن يعيد النظر في ظنه بهم، وأن يسترشد بمصادرنا ومصادرهم والتاريخ – قديمه وحديثه- ليدرك حقيقة الدين الشيعي.
ولمن لا يزال يتغنى بـالشعار الزائف: "إخوان سنة وشيعة... هذا الوطن منبيعه"، أقول: أزل الغطاء عن قلبك وعينيك لتدرك بأن الحقيقة هي: "دينان سنة وشيعة... صار الوطن للشيعة".
قل: (حكومة أحزاب شيعية)... ولا تقل: (حكومة وحدة وطنية)
يصر الشيعة على إضفاء صفة "الوطنية" على حكومة بغداد الإقصائية الاجتثاثية، ويزعمون بأنها تمثل كافة أطياف الشعب العراقي. وهذا محض افتراء لا يصمد أمام حقيقة كون حكومتهم حكومة إيرانية بامتياز. أما الساسة السنة المشتركون في الحكومة فلا يشكلون سوى "ديكور" لإيهام الرأي العام في العراق وخارجه بأن الحكومة تمثل العراقيين على اختلاف مسمياتهم وانتماءاتهم. فأعضاء الحكومة من السنة هم إما مجردون من الصلاحيات أو مضمونو الولاء للمالكي والأحزاب الموالية له.
وهنا أود أن أهمس في أذن السياسيين السنة المشاركين في الحكومة: إما أن تفضي مشاركتكم في الحكومة إلى درء مفاسد أو جلب منافع لأهل السنة، وتكون لكم صلاحياتكم واستحقاقاتكم الحقيقية كاملة دون نقصان... أو الانحياز إلى مقاومة سنية بشتى الوسائل حتى نأخذ حقوقنا بأيدينا، فالحقوق تنتزع ولا تمنح. ومن ليس لديه قوة لا مكان له في عالم السياسة.
قل: (الدين أولا)... ولا تقل: (الوطن أولا)
حب الوطن والحرص عليه أمر فطري، لكن يجب ألا يقدم على الدين الذي يفترض أن يكون على رأس أولويات المسلم الحقيقي. ولا تعارض – في الوضع الطبيعي – بين العمل للوطن والعمل للدين.
أما في حالة العراق اليوم، فالوضع غير طبيعي، حيث وضع الشيعة أهل السنة أمام مفترق طرق ليختاروا بين أمرين لا ثالث لهما: توحيد الله أو توحيد التراب. وانقسم أهل السنة بين هذين المفترقين، فالعلمانيون والقوميون والبعثيون آثروا وحدة التراب على وحدانية الله، فلم يجنوا أيا منهما. أما المسلمون الواعون والمدركون أن الدين هو المقدم على كل ما سواه (وفي مقدمتهم جنود القادسية العاملين في هذا الموقع المبارك)، فقد آثروا عقيدتهم على التراب الذي يجمعهم بأعداء الله وأعدائهم، فأخذوا على عاتقهم العمل من أجل الحفاظ على الدين والأرواح والكرامة لأهل السنة الذين أصبحوا هدفا للحقد الرافضي الدفين.
وقد نتفهم تقديم العلمانيين للوطن على الدين لأنهم أصلا لا يأبهون بالدين وتعاليمه ولا يقدمون أنفسهم على أنهم مسلمون، لكن أنّى لنا أن نفهم تقديم نخبة من "علماء المسلمين" لحدود سايكس- بيكو على العقيدة التي هي أغلى ما لدينا والتي نتعرض من أجلها لحملة شرسة من قبل الحكومة الشيعية لسلخنا منها؟
قل: (تخريب) ولا تقل: (تقريب)
والكلام هنا موجه لمن يدعون إلى "التقريب" بين السنة والشيعة – استنادا إلى اعتبار الشيعة – خطأ – مذهبا من المذاهب الإسلامية كالمذهب الحنفي والشافعي والحنبلي والمالكي. وهذا استناد ينطوي على أحد أمرين: إما جهل بكلا الدينين السني والشيعي، وإما نية خبيثة تريد إلباس الحق بالباطل.
إن الداعين إلى هذا "التقريب" يغفلون عن حقيقة أن الشيعي لا يكون شيعيا ما لم يؤمن بإمامة علي – رضي الله عنه – دون غيره... تلك الخرافة التي اخترعتها أهواؤهم وكفرونا على أساسها. ولا أدري كيف يكفروننا ويستحلون دماءنا وأموالنا ويعيثون في أرضنا فسادا، ولا يزال منا من يحسن الظن بهم ويرتجي معهم تقاربا هو أقرب إلى التقارب بين الدر والبعر!
ومن هنا أدعو علماءنا من أهل الفتوى – مجامع فقهية وأفرادا- إلى تحمل مسؤوليتهم في بيان حكم الشيعة بفتوى صريحة لا مواربة فيها كما فعل أسلافنا مالك وأحمد وابن تيمية والقاضي عياض والأسفراييني وغيرهم. فلا يكفي القول بكفر علمائهم والتوقف في عوامهم حتى تقام عليهم الحجة. وإن كان علماؤهم كفارا فكيف يسمح لهم بدخول بيت الله الحرام الذي لا يحل لكافر دخوله؟ وإن كان لا بد من إقامة الحجة على عوامهم قبل الحكم عليهم، فأين جهود إقامة الحجة عليهم؟ وهل يصح ترك الأمر معلقا هكذا ليكون الفرق بين المسلم والكافر عائما كل هذه الفترة؟
إن التفريق بين علماء الشيعة وعوامهم في الحكم غير مجدٍ وليس منطقيا، فلولا عوام الشيعة ما ساد معمموهم وسياسيوهم الذين يتبادلون أدوار الإجرام بحقنا بشكل متناغم. لذلك يجب العمل على إقامة الحجة عليهم لوضع النقاط على الحروف بما هو متاح من وسائل كالقنوات الفضائية ومواقع الإنترنت وسائر وسائل الإعلام، ولا بأس أن يستغرق ذلك سنة كاملة مثلا ليختار بعدها هؤلاء العوام إما اتباع معمميهم الذين ثبت لدينا كفرهم، وإما اتباع الدين الحق لنميز المسلم من الكافر ونضع حدا لهذا التمييع.
فعوام الشيعة يقلدون معمميهم ويسوقون لهم، ويأتمرون بأمرهم فيحرمون ما أحل الله ويحلون ما حرم الله من خلال:
- الإفطار في رمضان يوم يصوم المسلمون، والصوم يوم يفطرون.
- تأخير العيدين ليوم أو يومين مخالفة للمسلمين (للتوافق مع ماما إيران).
- منح أصواتهم الانتخابية لجلاديهم ليصلوا إلى مناصب حكومية يقومون من خلالها "بواجبهم" في ذبحنا على الطريقة "المجوسية".
- دفع الأموال كنذور وأتاوات (خمس) لتماسيحهم وأفاعيهم المعممة ليسخروها في محاربة الإسلام والمسلمين ونشر دينهم المجوسي.
- تقديم نسائهم وبناتهم فرائس لمعمميهم لممارسة الزنى باسم المتعة، وبالتالي نشر الأيدز وسائر الأمراض الصحية والاجتماعية.
- العمل كقطعان في مواكب اللطم والتطبير والتجمعات التي يؤججون فيها أحقادهم وثاراتهم ضدنا، ويسبون فيها رموزنا الذين أثنى عليهم الله في كتابه.
- تشكيل المليشيات الإجرامية كجيش المهدي وفيلق بدر وغيرهما لقتل أهل السنة وهدم مساجدهم.
هذا غيض من فيض من شرور القوم – عوامهم وخواصهم – ولا أدري ما الذي ينتظره علماؤنا؟ وكم من الضحايا علينا أن نقدم أكثر لجلادي الشيعة لكي يقتنعوا بوضع حد لهذا التمييع الذي طال أمده!
THE ANSWER IS YES! STOP THE FEAR MONGERING. STOP THE WAR CALLS! THIS IS WHAT GOT US INTO IRAQ. THIS IS WHAT THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX THAT WE WERE WARNED ABOUT WANTS! Ron Paul may seem 'crazy' to some of you but the media can make anyone look any way they want. They've made a cheating slimeball like Gingrich into a front runner even though he's stolen money from the financial crisis. If you want another war, then vote for any of the other republicans or Obama. Otherwise put Ron Paul in to restore our rights and avoid war!
The drones are coming..You idiot war mongering omnipotent and arrogant Americans..This is what you will be remembered for.. You get what you give! Oh yes the world thanks you!!! You thoughtless basterds!..
As a human being I never feel safe when the guy holding the launch button is strongly affiliated to any religion. Whether it be christianty or muslin whether it be Bush or Ahmadinejad.
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Can The world live with a nuclear Iran? .. What a $tupid question.. THE WORLD WILL DIE WITH A NUCLEAR IRAN. In 1940s we fought the mightiest force on Earth ,.. THE NAZIS , and we defeated them, this was a super power . In 2000s we fought a handful of SAND N!&&ers ,and we lost, this is no longer a super power.
Two words for a nuclear Iran: "Yeah, So?"
who cares? it's okay for other nations to have nukes, so why not Iran? India and Pakistan have nukes, China has nukes, Russia has nukes, and we have nukes. It's all right as long as you make sure nothing goes out of hand.
*** It's all right as long as you make sure nothing goes out of hand.
How will we do that ?
Wait until after it happens, and say....ooops.
Better to make sure they dont have the bomb
than wait until after they use one.
The world is not a species, a country, or a way of life. It is a planet. It will survive the actions of a small period in the existence of a temporary run of psychotic apes.
There is a huge difference in a nuclear Iran and other nations even including rogue nations such as North Korea. What makes Iran so dangerous is Ahmidinijad's theology and eschotology. He believes that the 12th iman (muslim messiah) will return when the world is in chaos particularly war against Israel, US and western world. He believes that he can hasten the return of his messiah by starting this world chaos and has even stated publicly that he has a divine calling from allah to do just that. He realizes that starting a nuclear war would lead to mutual annihilation and he would be a martyr resulting in his assurance of paradise and his 72 virgins. The fact that he welcomes death is what makes it dangerous for a nuclear weapon to be at his access. If sunni muslims will fly planes into buildings and suicide bombers will strap bombs on themselves to kill a few to assure their paradise, we should not be reluctant to believe that Ahmidinijad will drop a nuke to kill millions to secure his eternal future.
Here in America, we have a group of right wing Christians
running for president.
They all believe Jesus is coming, and the bible has the instruction
about what to do when he arrives.
I dont want any of these nuts to have the nuke codes.
IIran had always nuclear ambitions even under the rule of the Shah of Iran. I can still clearly remember when I was a student at the University of Aachen (Rheinische Westfälische Technische Hochschule Aachen) Germany , 1969 – 1975, there were always couple of Iranian Fraternities on campus. The students mostly enrolled in nuclear physics and related subjects. Quite a few Iranian students also were also to be found at the nuclear research centre Jülich, Germany (Kernforschungszentrum Jülich) just 25 miles off campus. It was a known fact that the Iran government paid the German government handsomely for that privilege. I just could never figure out why our government would permit such research assistance to a foreign state that was not on good terms with the state of Israel. Have we German not learned our lessons from the past?
Here we go again. I thought this guy(including our government and not to mention our "free" media) said the same thing about Iraq having WMDs. Why we do this? Just to make money? People think that they will live forever and what ever they are making here, it will go with them when they die. We as a nation/common people, are so numb minded that we believe in these so called "truth" writers, that we do not even see things which are right in front of us. Everyone knows that who used and will use WMDs when it is time to come to use it.
Can the world live with a nuclear USA?
We know the US has used nuclear weapons before and can't be trusted not to use them again.
The US is far more trsustworthy than Iran, even the majroity iranian people would agree with that.
That is if they were allowed to freely express their opinions
Iran with nuclear weapons is like a drunk who promises to go to a bar to just eat the food...
Whats wrong with someone acquring weapons? Look back at history, see which country lead the pack when it comes to murdering innocents around the world, in the name of world peace
I am sure you will NOT be surprised.
Iran is a ENEMY OF THE WORLD country, it cannnot be allowed to possess any nuke tech of ny kind. in Fact Iran need to be desroyed (as with all Islamic country) it si just common sense. UntilIslam is totally wiped out of the planet. there is no peace possible. as the sole and only goal of Islam (and every singe muslim) is is war and terrorrism.
It's very simple to live with a nuclear iran. Simply make it known that if they so much as even test a bomb we wipe out the entire country. Give the iranian people have 1 week to evacuate the country and turn it into a nuclear wasteland. In the mean time we should be employing more Stuxnet style attacks to make the process as costly and slow as possible. Stop playing softball with Amadmaniniran
The question is not wether Iran can be the question is wether The Ugly Swines Of America which has already used the nuclear bomb twice & the fanatic terrorist state of Israel which is a threat to all muslim countries can be trusted with the nuclear devices, its rigt of iran to have nuclear device so the threat of these two terrorist fanatical christian & jewish state can be countered
America and Israel are worried about increased Iranian inflluence in the region. That's it. A nuclear-armed Islamic Republic of Iran poses no immediate physical threat to anybody. A nuclear weapon affords the IR Iran the ability to make decisions based on equal footing as Israel and the United States, and obviously, Israel and the U.S. don't want that, they enjoy being the big dogs. The IR Iran will not launch a nuclear weapon, they know what will happen if they do. The thing is, Israel and the United States won't launch on a nuclear-armed IR Iran, because they know what would happen if they did. The U.S. and Israel like being in charge, they like having the only seats at the Middle East's big boy table. A nuclear weapon allows Iran to pull up a chair. Plain and simple. No immediate physical threat. Strictly increased influence and negotiating power.
The drone incident is a very positive event for the US in its quest for intelligence and knowledge on enemy's potential / capabilities.
Enough is enough.
Is the real enemy the "Other" one, or is it the unquenchable thirst for power ?
In a nuclear world, the enemy is not the "Other" one, it is ourselves.
We need to solve the political issues, before we all die, or live in a nuclear police world with a gas mask and weapons out the wazoo.
Peace is the only way out.
And do not send one more soldier out to die for oil.
I have had enough.
Please follow the path of peace and love and dialog.
There is absolute beauty in peace love and respect from one another.
Why don't we give that a try for once.
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Somewhere deep in the recesses of his hate encrusted brain, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the crazed mullahs who run Iran are concerned for their own mortality. That's why they convince other idiots to blow themselves up, but they'd never think of doing it.
Mutually assured destruction (i.e., M.A.D.) worked with the Russians. It'll work with Iran, too.