Editor's Note: Brad Chase is a partner with Capitol Media Partners, a Los Angeles-based communications and public affairs consultancy.
By Brad Chase - Special to CNN
In 2008, the youth vote helped sweep Barack Obama into office. Americans 18-29 spread the word on social media, energized fundraising and went to the polls.
In 2012, the youth vote is moving on and throwing those omnipresent “Hope” bumper stickers and t-shirts in garbage bins.
Not because of apathy. Not because another candidate generates more enthusiasm. Not because of his character. Not because they think voting is pointless. The 18-29 vote is up for grabs in 2012 because youth can’t afford cars to put bumper stickers on and those t-shirts are worn out from too many days sitting on the couch unemployed.
The sobering reality: just 55.3 percent of Americans between 16 and 29 have jobs. And earlier this year, Americans’ student loan debt surpassed credit card debt for the first time ever.
Rather than develop a lasting initiative to help young unemployed Americans, the President launched “Greater Together” – a campaign tool that offers community forums rather than jobs. Rather than provide a bailout to those crushed by the burden of educational loans, his student debt relief program was pathetic – only reducing interest rates by a measly 0.5 percent.
No wonder less than half of Americans 18-29 approve of Obama.
It’s no surprise the President is ignoring millenials. They’re too poor to donate to his campaign this election cycle. Older Americans are 47 times richer than the young – a striking generational gap in prosperity that has widened from a 10 to 1 ratio when Ronald Reagan was running for reelection in 1984. At the same time, Obama is ringing up donations from older voters. In the first 10 months of 2011, he attended 58 fundraisers – twice the number President George W. Bush attended during the comparable period before his reelection. That’s overkill when the GOP candidate is still TBD.
Millenials haven’t embraced any of the GOP candidates yet, but there’s a huge opportunity for the eventual nominee to swoop in and win over the youth vote. They have a short memory, filled mostly with three difficult years under President Obama’s economic stewardship. The Center for the Study of the American Electorate reports that the youth vote won’t come out strongly this time around, but there’s little doubt the voting bloc is up for grabs to the first candidate who offers up viable policies – not themes and slogans – to address their issues.
To win the youth vote in November, a Presidential candidate could start by:
- Creating a limited student debt forgiveness program: It would be impractical and foolhardy to create complete debt amnesty. Instead, erase all federal student debt for those with more than $30,000 in federal student loan debt and cut the bill by 10 percent for those with debts under that threshold. That still leaves students accountable – no free rides – but it eases the crushing burden on millions of millenials. H.Res. 365 by Rep. Hansen Clark (D-MI) was a well-intentioned (albeit pie-in-the-sky) call for debt relief and it’s a good starting point for future efforts.
- Controls on Predatory Lenders/Servicers: Most students need their parents to co-sign loans and then take care of the bills themselves. But private loan servicers like American Education Services (AES) have no oversight and resort to bully tactics to threaten students’ parents with credit rating ruin as little as five days after a bill comes overdue for the first time. Not even credit card companies are that ruthless. There’s nothing more humiliating and stressful to students or parents than getting harassed for short-term delinquencies. There’s no need for a Credit Protection Financial Bureau, just more oversight on predators like AES.
- Allowing Student Loan Discharge in Bankruptcy: In 2005, bankruptcy law changed to specifically exclude private student loans from being discharged in bankruptcy proceedings. Young adults don’t want the headache or stigma of going bankrupt, but sheltering private lenders at the expense of recent graduates is wrong. H.R. 2028 will restore pre-2005 terms – support for the bill would be huge in generating millennial votes.
The ancillary benefit of student debt relief is a stimulus to the economy. Older Americans might say that giving money back to the young is an invitation to run up debt again, but millenials have watched their parents get underwater with mortgages and credit cards – it’s the pot calling the kettle black to deny young adults their own bailout. The stimulus will come in the form of solid and responsible purchases: a first couch, a first bed, a first set of dinner plates. This isn’t reckless spending, it’s the type of economic stimulus that Obama’s much-touted stimulus should have been.
Without the youth vote in 2008, the President would have lost North Carolina and Indiana – a 26 delegate swing equal to nearly 10 percent of the 270 electoral college votes needed to win. The 2012 election promises to be closer and the swing of the youth vote could be enough to tip the balance. It’s time the President did some soul searching on his feelings toward the youth vote. And he better do it soon, because the GOP candidate is waiting in the wings and won’t hesitate to take the youth vote.
The views expressed in this article are solely those of Brad Chase.
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Here come the promises again ( Razzle Dazzle ) He didnt do it the first time and this is his last term and the term that he will go for all your throats........Don't blame anyone but yourselves
And you think the conservatives don't go for the jugular also? They are all about power and profit, profit, profit, profit.
What planet are you from, that you pretend that Obama is worse than the conservatives?
Wake up Tom ........... you should not be able to be President just because you want to. Blind ambition and a freshman senator is not a presidential resume and it shows. His indecision is painful, his leadership does not exist.
His only goal is to be King for 4 more years ........... can you / we afoord four more years of a man to is not qualified ? He is not respected nationally or internationally. Does he have his best interests or yours.
History is sure to judge this presidency as a sad failure. Need real change !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Planet fox spews...where its lies all the time for all time.
News flash Obama cures cancer: Fox spews take : Obama kills medical industry
You can't get through to a rock you can't get through to a repuke
Planet Earth. Please move to North Korea, it's obvious that your into Cults of Personality.
In light of the choices on the right I'll stick with Obama. We would be better off if they just sat on the side lines until we are out of trouble. Republicans are only good when we are in the black. It is then that they give the house away and everyone luvs them. Once it is all gone they be come clueless.
Tom, stop bashing foxnews and stop reading them if you don't like them; you're on the CNN site. Go to MSNBC if you want to spew your blind garbage.
Obama is a joke, a bad one at that. We should be able to put a measure in place that any candidate that does not have experience need not apply. The popular vote is very dangerous, what would the country do if we all voted for Mickey Mouse and he won the election? I guess I've answered my own question since Dumbo is in office... dang!
@Tom, many things could happen within a year.If the GOP sticks to the current candidates, I doubt the sympathy they would get from the youth.
If things don't look good for Obama, he could play sick and let his party put someone else into the race. Somebody more electable than the GOP candidates.
I actually find the political arena amusing. Millions are going to love and millions are going to hate, no matter what person is president. Poll just shown on Fox News had President Obama as the most admired man in the United States with George Bush second, and Bill Clinton third. But yet people want to try and B.S. and say EVERYONE hates him. Having voted for both Bush's, I was tired of all the hate on the President over the years and actually hoped that things would be different this time around. Does everyone in America major in whining in school?
Oh yes because Bush was soooooo qualified.
Charlie, he does not want to be King or President for 4 more years. He wants to be "Supreme Leader" for 4 or more years.
@Tom
Of course Obama is worse...he's failed to find positive and viable solutions to get us out of this mess, and he continues to endanger the rights of the people with restrictive laws that put government in charge of our daily lives. As a military officer, I know that when you're in charge, you're responsible for EVERYTHING that happens during your tenure. President Obama's presidency has been less than stellar and I do believe that change is needed. Unfortunately, the GOP isn't offering much of a challenge, and Mitt Romney needs to light a fire under his campaign and convince the people that he is a better alternative.
Shut up stupid. Conservatives go for the throats of America-hating communists who are out to destroy this country. Ronald Reagan gave us the longest peace time expansion in the history of our nation. That godless, soulless, clueless reprobate Slick Willy whom all you stupid liberals so love even rode in on the coat tails of that economic windfall. You and your stupid occupy-my-underwear professional protesters just don't understand it. If you are too stupid and intellectually dishonest to admit the failure of Osama and liberalism, I would like to personally come take your voting rights away from you. May I please have your address?
Wake up Charlie–you're a lot dumber than you think.
Hey Tom...Shut up!!! Nobody wants to listen to youre socialist garbage!!
pretty simple Tom... Profits equal jobs... jeeeese
@Tommy
Take two heads of the same size. One has has thicker walls than the other, essentially allowing less room within the walls of the skull. Now stuff a brain into each head. The skull with the most rooms allows the brain to expand and grow, becoming wiser. The skull which restricts growth stunts the growth of the other brain, causing memory loss and stupidity.
That being said, when election time comes around again, the blacks will "forget" what a lousy president Obama was and vote for him AGAIN, thus proving my point; memory loss and stupidity.
Thank you. This has been a public service announcement.
Look at all the rhetoric being spewed by the lizard brains. Incapable of empathy for your fellow humans and only moved by the dollar. Truly sad that so many have such soft gullible brains that give in so easily to corporate propaganda. President Obama IS the most admired man in America and a good president who inherited the worst America I've EVER seen. Despite the stonewalling and anti-American tactics of the Republicans, we are now on the road to recovery.
Beware the Lizard brains!
I agree !00 percent. I used a republican, before Clinton but then I wised up and became a Democrat
Profit is not a bad thing. . . It leads to needing to produce more. . . which leads to producing more jobs. . .
Profits at the top doesn't lead to producing more. Only demand does this. Using profits to manipulate economic laws in your favor is what these people do. The destruction of labor in the private sector, trade agreements moving manufacturing overseas, low corporate tax rates, etc. We've been playing the supply-side game for over 30 years and it's destroyed our economy and made blue collar middle-class jobs extinct.
I think a lot of you people are on the wrong site... This is not Fox News. All of you saying the president is a failure, did he fail to get Osama Bin Laden? He might not have pulled the trigger but he did sign the order to take him out. Same with Qaddafi, though you all still think he involved us in a "war" (news flash: Libyan attacks were part of a NATO operation, of which we are a partner). And you may not agree with his policies (please, go look up socialism.. It's not what you think it is, and its certainly not what Obama is pushing), but at least he is coming up with policies, not just sitting around trying to get him fired like Republicants are and saying "NO!" to every single policy he comes up with. How about trying to come up with your own policies? Oh that's right, that would involve you actually having to work... Man you are all hypocrites and morons for buying into the republicans' BS... How anyone with a heart can support their policies of hatred and exclusion is beyond me. If you still, after all the crap they've pulled and the social inequality they've pursued, really think republicans are out for your best intersts, well there's really nothing anyone can say or do to convince you otherwise, I suppose. I'm sorry you feel that being progressive and trying to change that which is wrong with this country is a bad thing. I feel that your traditional stance is more destructive to our national fabric than, for example, letting two people who are in love get married, no matter if they are man and woman, man and man or woman and woman. Please, continue to try to take away womens' rights and continue to give millionaires and corporations free reign to completely destroy our economy. I'll continue to fight against hatred, hypocrisy and bigotry.
Scott, you are correct. But, don't forget, during the 2008 debates he was called naive by both Hillary and McCain for saying he would authorize going into Pakistan without their permission to get Bin Laden. If Hillary or McCain won, Bin Laden would still be free! And that's the fact!
Thanks, Tom. Obama is a great leader who had soooo much left for him to do by Bush. He almost had to rearrange the
universe. Jim
@Gabe – yes Bush wasn't qualified after going to Phillips Andover for high school, Yale for under gard & Havard for his MBA.
Yes all his transcripts were made public for the world to see & you think he wasn't qualified, but you defend a guy we know nothing about who single handily destroyed health benefits for employees come 2014.
Yup a company will be fined $2000 for every employee they don't insure health wise at a tune of $15,000 per year – saving them millions while screwing the average person.
Face the Pres is a joke & the libs who back him are going to get screwed real soon
Obama is absolutely a bad seed.. plain and simple.. he is just bad..
@jb1963 – Are you kidding? We are in this economic mess because the democrats quite literally "gave the house away".
@FormerLiberal We don't give a F-UCK if your an officer shut your trap mouth the enlisted are the ones who really do the work, stop trying to make it like you understand real military HANDS ON WORK! any way enlisted don't like officers your all are just a bunch of REPUBS & PAPER PUSHERS.. anyway GO OBAMA ! ! ! ! !
And why should I pay for your education?
Try to imagine if a Republican President had saved the domestic auto industry at no cost to the taxpayer, killed Bin Laden in a gutsy special-forces op (against the advice of top brass, who favored an airstrike), gaining a massive amount of intel, resulting in taking out dozens of top Al Quada with dronestrikes, and stood up to China in the Pacific theatre, not to mention fighting for middle-class taxcuts. Conservatives would herald him as the second coming. You folks are so funny...
Oh yeah, and was instrumental in Colonel Gaddhafi's downfall – the list goes on...
Chalie (or whatever your name is): you say that Obama is not respected either nationally or internationally? I think you must be thinking of President Bush. Obama has elevated the level of respect for an American President, especially after the Bush fiasco.
Pew Survey: Fox News Audience Much More Balanced
http://thehotjoints.com/2008/10/06/new-poll-more-democrats-watch-fox-news
MSNBC trusted by paltry 12%. Fox at top with 42%.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/27/poll-among-cable-news-networks-msnbc-trusted-by-12
Study Finds Democrats Given Preferential Treatment by the MSM
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/terry-trippany/2007/10/30/study-finds-democrats-given-preferential-treatment-msm
FOX NEWS FAR MORE BALANCED IN COVERAGE OF 2008 ELECTION – REST OF MEDIA VERY ONE-SIDED
http://journalism.org/node/13436
Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=6664
Gallup: Americans really distrust the media (48% say "too liberal," only 15% say "too conservative")
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/29/gallup-americans-really-distrust-the-media/
REPORTERS GIVE DEMS MONEY OVER REPUBLICANS 9 TO 1
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/19113455
Now let's watch you spin ALL THAT with some banal contrivance about how eeeeeeevil Fox is cuz you saw PROOF on this one blog one time.
0bama is the worst president in US history. Leftists like you who hate economic competence (such as Bush Administration 5% unemployment and Republican Congress balanced budgets) should be laughed at or ignored. 0bamabots always get on their high horses to peddle the same submoronic collectivists crap that never works. Reality just does not register with partisan hack Leftards like you.
Pretend? LOL! Pretend?
those who contend to believe that their debt need not be paid off as promised will be condemned to die in poverty. They are already involved in moral poverty if not moral bankruptcy, their trail will follow them all of their lives marking them as undependable and otherwise untrustworthy.
Tommy Tommy Tommy, Mommy should have let you play with scissors rather than let you near the keyboard again. Look Dullard, unless you live in a cardboard box and have no assets whatsoever otherwise you are working "for profit". It is not only the goal of every business, it is the standard operating principle since the beginning of time you jughead. Oh I get it, you wanted Obama to steal someone else's money and give it to you. The day will come when people like you get your face put to the curb and get a kick to the back of the head for your communist thievery.
Tom, please coach me a little here,have YOU ever worked for a living or have you just sucked of the GOV'T your entire L!fe. If you pick a Life of work maybe you missed how they pay YOU,they pay YOU thru GREED that right thru GREED. If each business doesn't put GREED into the cost of the product you could NOT ask them something of GREED in return a CHECK. The worst GREED in the WORLD is a word call TAXES because it payes for the other worst thing which is l@zy @s s DEM'S !
And what planet are you from to think that Zero has been anything other than a complete disaster for this country among any age grouping? The planet, Stupid. It orbits around Obama's Jupiter-sized ego.
Tom, you bash profit, profit, profit. Without profit, tax revenues do not exist. Profits allow employees and shareholders the ability and obligation to pay for our government at all levels. Unfortunately, under our current executive branch, the word is demonized and profits (and jobs) have disappeared. Profit is one of the greatest words in a free and prosperous society. Government jobs, which do not support themselves, depend on profitable businesses to pay taxes and employ talented individuals who also pay individual taxes to support their paychecks and benefits. Progressives idea of a just society is Government employees providing services for each other. Even China will not finance that charade.
Spend trillions of Dollars? Yes We Can!
Profit, profit, profit is what grows, grows, grows companies. Which, in turn, creates jobs, jobs, jobs. Good Lord WAKE UP!
Alas, I think we're all right but we must always choose between the lesser of two evils. Remember theses words....
We'd all like to vote for the best man, but he's never a candidate. ~Frank McKinney "Kin" Hubbard
International Opinion
You guys all arguing ,be you dem or rep supporters you are all Americans. I'll tell you as an outsider , a person who is a Citizen of 3 countries what my view is when it comes to America. Obama got you the respect back that was lost when Bush was in power – Simple! we know the state America was in when Obama inherited it from Bush – fact is Obama has done his best and you can tell he is a man of his words unlike Bush and other republicans who are swayed by the rich . Citizen of Australia , Canada and Britain – Cheers.
tom
And you think the conservatives don't go for the jugular also? They are all about power and profit, profit, profit, profit.
What planet are you from, that you pretend that Obama is worse than the conservatives?
I don't think this article was saying that Obama was worse than the conservatives. It was simply saying that he hasn't fulfilled his promises to the youth votes that got him elected and is therefore vulnerable to losing that youth vote. I have never voted Republican in my life and I think the writer has a point. I wish the democrats could put in a new candidate.
Right, because getting spending increases (absorbing student debt) is easy to get through congress, or the republicans will offer tax increases to pay for it.
ALL they need to do is play his 2008 campaign speeches over and over and over again on TV. OBAMA = LIES. He spoke how un-american Bush was for spending 4 trillion. He is at 16 trillion. He wants to raise the debt ceiling AGAIN, NOW, while congress is out. I think he is trying to ruin us.
You've been watching Fox "news" with their "fair and balanced" coverage, haven't you?
The debt ceiling has been raised eighteen times under reagan, seven times during bush sr, four times under clinton, seven times during bush jr. and three for obama
For the last thirty years, republitards have raised it a total of THIRTY TWO TIMES to Democrat's six.
WHO's spending is out of control? Its NOT democrats....It NEVER WAS
Carter decreased the debt by 3.3%
Reagan increased the debt by 20.6%
Bush sr increased the debt by 15.0%
Clinton decreased the debt by 9.7%
Bush jr increased the debt by 27.1%
1978-2005 Democratic
Spending:9.9% increase
1978-2005 Republican
Spending:12.1% increase
Hey is your real name Glen Beck?
You are incorrect sir, the real numbers are: George W. Bush’s policies: $7 trillion in debt; Barack Obama’s policies: $1.4 trillion. This is information off the U.S. National Debt Chart.
The total national debt is just over 15 trillion (www.usdebtclock.org/)
The national debt increased $4.9 trillion during the eight-year presidency of George W. Bush. The latest posting by the Treasury Department shows the national debt has now increased $4 trillion on President Obama's watch. However, the major contributors to national debt during Obama's presidency were originated under George W Bush (Wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Extension of Bush Era Tax Cuts, 2008 stimulus including TARP, plus various other Bush era policies)
Obama meanwhile had to pull the country away from the brink of the abyss immediately upon taking office so accrued 400 billion in one-time emergency costs and spending. Plus, in Dec 2010 Obama spent another 250 billion on middle class tax cut deal. Add in another 800 billion from the Recovery Act, and you have a basic overall account of Obama's impact on the national debt vs. Bush.
Basic Keynesian Principle is that debt reduction should occur during boom time whereas increased government spending during a recession is necessary to stimulate the economy. This can be shown most dramatically in history with the Great Depression which was followed by the Post World War II Boom time which was created mainly due to massive government spending on the war created lots of jobs and put money in the pockets of working and middle class.
Fact of the matter, BUSH SHOULD HAVE REDUCED NATIONAL DEBT WHILE HE WAS IN OFFICE, BUT FAILED TO DO SO, WHEREAS OBAMA HAS RESPONSIBILITY TO CREATE JOBS WITH GOVERNMENT SPENDING BUT REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS TRY TO BLOCK HIM FROM DOING SO.
Be careful Craig, you are spewing substantiated facts, an unheard of tactic for the standard cynical republican mind. It's like being in the darkness for too long, you can only take in light gradually or else be blinded by it. Perhaps next time you can add a hint of fear, a dash of apathy and a cup of BS so it seems more familiar. Only then can you SLOWLY insinuate facts and reality.
P.S. I am happy there are still people like us out there.
Here are the real numbers:
Carter increased the debt by 31.5%
Reagan decreased the debt by 1.7%
Bush sr decreased the debt by 4.5%
Clinton increased the debt by 35.8%
Bush jr decreased the debt by 9.5%
Obama increased debt by 58.3%
Yo-Craig. The numbers you give are total rubbish and demonstrably false. Reagan reduced our debt? What are you smoking?
Did you get these numbers from FOX NEWS???
yo – Craig
Here are the real numbers:
Carter increased the debt by 31.5%
Reagan decreased the debt by 1.7%
Bush sr decreased the debt by 4.5%
Clinton increased the debt by 35.8%
Bush jr decreased the debt by 9.5%
Obama increased debt by 58.3%
@ Jay C.
And CNN is fair and balanced, right? CNN is a liberal leaning news source. It's sad that the American press has lost it's impartiality. These days you have to choose to either be bombarded by the right or the left, there is no middle ground.
Be careful Marc libtards are known to be liars & apparently those numbers are false yet again. How can libs be so dumb? it must be a disease
You are right.. Obama is in the Destruction of america Plan.. People who are so blinded as to see this are just idiots
http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16
Interesting accounting. You only hold Bush to the amount (incorrect by the way) that he raised the debt, and then you turn around and hold Obama for the entire debt (even Bush's portion and the debt that pre-existed him). Conservative math at its best.
1) FNC's "fair and balanced" coverage is PROVEN by all credible nonpartisan studies and polls that could indicate such one way or the other. Studies and polls done every year. Or are Gallup, Harvard, UCLA, and the Project for Excellence in Journalism all "conservative" liars to you, Leftist hacks?
2) Your Reagan and the debt ceiling argument is intellectually dishonest. It is a red herring.
Who owns the debt-ceiling issue again?
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/27/who-owns-the-debt-ceiling-issue-again/
Some Facts About the Debt Limit
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/07/some-facts-about-the-debt-limit.php
FTA: "The chart also responds implicitly to some recent Democratic Party talking points. The Democrats like to point out that the ceiling was raised 18 times during the Reagan administration. That’s right, an average of about once every six months. In other words, those increases were small and highly temporary, as you can see from the chart. It is also noteworthy that the total increase in the debt ceiling during the Reagan years was almost exactly equal to the increase in the debt ceiling during the Clinton administration. Neither, however, is in the same universe with the spiraling debt the Democrats have racked up since they took control of Congress in 2007."
Fact – the greatest rise in domestic debt has occurred under the watch of a democrat controlled congress. Who votes on raising the debt ceilings? Thats right. Back to school liberal idiots.
Razzle Dazzle is absolutely correct! Now, after three years of Teh Once, the only arguement the diehard and blinded can come up with is "he's better than the Republicans". The lesser of two evils is still evil! You'd think they'd be willing to have someone with a tried and true credible track record primary Obama.
And, by the way, while everyone is blaming Republicans for blocking Obama, he had two years of a Democratic majority, and what did he do? He rewarded wall street, banks, auto, and big pharma. Even Pelosi said he could have had single payer but didnt argue for it. Then Obama pretended that single poayer was still on the table even though it wasnt, according to Daschille. Vote for a liar, get lies. Vote for inexperience, get chaos. Vote this loser out. PRIMARY OBAMA.
Yes and a filibuster with each and EVERY bill.
The way it is now only ONE REPUKE can hold the entire congress hostage and they DID EVERY TIME.
Here is a fact for you: In the last three years filibuster rates have reached an all time high in ALL OF HISTORY to DOUBLE the previous record.
That is all due the desperate and pathetic attempts of repukes to hold up a black president that was elected by a landslide election.
NO SHAME NO CONSCIENCE NO SOUL EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM
Didn't I read this exact same post under two or three other articles?
...
Yes. Yes I did.
Learn to do something other than 'cut-n-paste.'
Cut and paste is better than posting comments that have nothing to do with the subject and serves only to critisize an informed opinion. Crap, I think I just did it myself, except my target is most likely uninformed.
You are 100% correct! But the problem is all of these Lib idiots cant get past the fact that hes a failure and socilaism doesnt work in AMERICA!
@Craig
Your comment just proves your ignorance. Our president is NOT BLACK. He is bi racial. His mother is very much white and was born in Kansas. It would make just as much sense to say we have a white president right? Lets face it, black or white, republicans hate him becuase he is inexperienced and democrats hate him becuase he makes them all look bad. Name one good policy he has set it stone? How about operation Fast and Furious?? Do some research on that and start loving your democratic leaders even more lol
The only change obama has brought, are on what he said he was going to DO!!!
He is doing great job for Illegalls – Why don't you like him. He even created a hotline for detained illegal criminals who "feel like they are US citizens". What a joke. Every illegall "feels" llike a citizen.
hE EVEN CREATED A HOTLINE SO THAT IF SOMEONE IS TALKING BAD ABOUT HIM YOU CAN TELL HIM WHO IT IS....SOUNDS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.
He approved Vi_olence Ag_ainst Wom_en ACT which gives Gre_en Cards left and right to Russian illega_lls.
He approved DREAM ACT for the young illegalls – you HAVE to love him. Obama – do you remember us – we are regular US citizens. We still live in the US.
you're a loser who only focuses on your hate and thinks they are informed. Too many idiots today thinking they are educated when they ONLY listen to right wing radio or read or watch only Fox News. The destroyer of democracy–IDIOCRACY.
"Idiot" isn't a name. It's an adjective. Idiot.
Ummmm...."idiot" is a noun, idjit.
Ineptocracy – a sustem of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid fo rby the cofiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers...
@Sam; @sixer6josh6:
Good job on your spelling, you two. ______ (Fill in the blank for any noun you want to use.)
I say that and all you can do is make fun of how I didn't proofread my comment before I posted it?!
So the choice is broken promises with limited attempts to do the right thing in some cases vs. conservative pushing for policies that continue to destroy the middle class and drive wages down. A significant number will go for the conservative choice – Obama will win them over, but it should be easy for Obama. He has no one but himself for this difficulty.
So, Republicans are destroying the middle-class? Yer a moonbat and have zero clue. Maybe you'll get promoted to head fry boy someday.
Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it?
Unlike you Joe, he had to work at it.
Butters,
You must have butter on the brain or a really bad case of OCD....or you are one of the receipients of his unstable programs that are making this country broke. When you get a little older, you'll understand what all the fuss is about. I have to agree with "James Dean"
i can not understand how republicans with no money can blindly follow the wealthy ones who do not care about you either / at least obama didnt kill our troops in Iraq to make a profit
Fear is a powerful thing especially when used against children.
What profit? Yes, we did have to use Private Military Companies (PMC) because the Democrats under Clinton slashed defense spending. If we hadn't done that then there would have been no need for the PMC's. Of course, you may mean the completely false accusation "blood for oil" which there was no such thing. Gas prices have risen and stayed high which they wouldn't have if we went into Iraq for oil. History does not support your position. Use the rational function of your brain which has been bequeathed to you for that purpose instead of being a brainwashed slave to the liberal agenda.
Christopher Yoder - you didn't answer or rebut your target at all. Don't you feel stupid now? I bet you still don't... sigh...
@ROBERT JONES............Keep drinking that koolaid...obamabot!!
@rapid one. Given your lack of any credible rebuttal I will assume you have none.
robert Jones – You wrote: "..i can not understand how republicans with no money can blindly follow the wealthy ones who do not care about you either / at least obama didnt kill our troops in Iraq to make a profit..."
Does the phrase "Scientific Materialism" mean anything to you? I completely understand why dopes like you think like you do. Its all about envy, resentment, and jealously for you guys. I have never met one of you who does not think he deserves more money from people who have more money then you do.
It is childish, stunted version of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. You seem very very needy.
For those blaming this all on Obama, try to watch something besides FOX. If you had any sense, you would see that the US Government is broken. The Republicans have done everything they can to block ANY legislation not their own. As recently as a week ago, they agreed to the payroll tax extension that would help working people, then changed their minds and said "no", then, when they realized what a buch of horses A$$es they looked like, they agreed again. Obama has not been all we hoped he would be, but it has been in large part due to the childish tantrums Bohener and others have thrown, and yet, they have no solutions of their own that would work. It never ceases to amaze me how working class people can back Republicans who are very clear that they are for big business, and really couldn't give a rat's butt about middle class working people.
The poor continue to vote against their own well being b/c the ruling class have had them distracted since the beginning of time with made up religions which encourage them to be acceptive of living in poverty. It's amazing what people will do for empty promises.
The Republicans won't be able to unite behind any of potential republican nominees. Not even the conservative radio and Fox News hosts can enthusiastically support any of the candidates. Mitt will probably win the nomination, but is too liberal for tea party conservatives. Former President George Bush publically came out to say he can't support Newt. That should headline the Dem's commercials if Newt is nominated. And the Republican base calls Ron Paul a whacko, especially when it comes to foreign policy and his stance that Israel perhaps shouldn't be a country. After all the attacks ads within the Republican Party, the Dems have little to do but sit back and watch.
Yep – Obama's fault. end of story.
And the Democrats have never filibustered the Senate?? The plain and simple truth is that it is a tactic used by both parties and is not something used exclusively by the GOP. Get your facts straight and stop living as a mental slave to the liberal agenda. Stop parroting what the DNC tells you to parrot and actually think for yourself. That is what the liberals fear more than the GOP or conservatives but a populace that can think for themselves because that removes them from their position of power over the brainwashed masses of the country who support them.
Christopher Yoder – you are the poster child for people who are brainwashed. Get out of the kool-aid before you drown in it...
You can tell that Christopher Yoder is a mindless slave because he throws around the 'L' word over an over again, foaming at the mouth like an idiot. Get it straight, Mr. Yoder–WE AREN'T NECESSARILY LIBERAL OR DEMOCRAT, BUT SIMPLY SEE WHAT GARBAGE THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING.
You just assume and call us libs and dems because your arguments are garbage and you have nothing to stand on.
Oh Really?
The democrats came out with a kindergarten grade policy for a 2 month extension
The republicans wanted a more complex plan that would hold strong for 1 year
The democrats wanted to pass their little bill so they could all go home early for the holidays.
The republicans know that Americans wanted a real bill passed for their well being, not just a 2 month slap in the face
Who really cares about the people?
No I blame Harry Reid.
Thanks for stating what is obvious to most of us who aren't FOX Noise
sheeple.
"The Republicans have done everything they can to block ANY legislation not their own."
.. and how many of the almost 30 bills sent to the senate was brought to the floor? Not one. you simple minded, one sided ignoramuses are a trip. How do you all exist in the age of information?
You clearly are as clueless as our incompetent Marxist president.
The Republican led House has put forth no less than 17 bills to generate jobs. Every single one of them has been held up in the Democrat Senate, which has failed to even bother to pass a budget in almost 1000 days.
Read something besides CNN and Daily Kos.
Yea, EVERYONE has given up on obama. And VERY FEW even had any stake in him to begin with.
How will you explain his resounding re-election?
Obama is great american great pres ,when my unemploymnent was running out he said extend it repubs said no let him starve and sit in the cold and dark politics has to do more for me than satisfiy my ego i want real help like health care and money, so once a gain to al the stupid ego driven haters out there yes we can 2012.Obama 4 more years and then let biden take it from there thats real.
I have given up on any politician who voted to indefinitely detain american citizens without charge or a lawyer.
In complete agreement with you. This bill was the one that sent me over the edge, I will not vote for anyone who supports oppressive polices like this. I will never vote Republican, but after this I don't think I will ever vote Democrat again either.
Conservatives are so stupid. Their base has virtually no money and they want to give it to the wealthy, then blame liberals for their woes. Conservative – look up the definition. We'd still have slavery and no women's suffrage if they had won in the 1860s and 1920. Moronic is a more accurate term.
Apparently you missed the section of history where a Republican freed the slaves. Or maybe the part where LBJ vehemently opposed the Civil Rights Act before becoming president (which came from the Republicans and Eisenhower) and then as soon as he became president pushed it into law for the votes. It's no secret that he had stated that he pushed it so that blacks would "vote for Democrats for generations." Oh or how about when FDR began SS and openly admitted that it was a bad policy but good politics. Stop the propaganda please. Thanks.
What makes you think that?Youth will be there when it's time to vote! That's all that counts. Once the GOP chooses the least of all the evils running, Obama will take it. He has the steering wheel and has been experiencing such heavy traffic on both sides of the highway.But once he hits the clear roads he will drive straight ahead to his destination. Maybe even the GOP will catch on to the fact that, when you give the PEOPLE what they need instead of trying to get a man out of office, things might look up.
Did you get that from an OWS meeting or a chinese fortune cookie?
Calm down, everyone. Obama's not great, but the sky is not falling. Vote for who you think makes sense. During Bush's two terms the liberals all cried that he's ruining the country... now the conservatives cry that Obama's ruining the country. Save the drama for your mama. Intelligent debate is better than hysterics.
Uh, Lavonte, are you so idiotic as to not realize there was a President between Reagan and Clinton? Where was the windfall then? Or how about the fact RR passed the largest tax increase during peacetime in history? WOW!
How do u like to be president? Palin? Paul? Gingrich? Romney? or bless your heart the black republican Cain?????
They are all laughable
Dubya with a tan and a higher I.Q. Millions of us contributed billions so that he may not end up being just another corporate spokesman like Republicans or Hillary Clinton, but he did. But you are right. It is our fault that we gave a Senate and Congress who were corporate spokesmen. So I guess it was he who gave up on us. Then we have a supreme court that say corporate bodies have same rights as humans, so they can contribute whatever they like to the politician who favors them. By this ruling, be prepared for Bank of America to be the next president of USA. After all by judge's law BOA has the same rights as Obama.
He's a campaigner, not a leader. What else is new?
How about mentioning the corruption of this administration – you know the one that promised ethics and transparency?
Let me cite one example of an important presidential appointee in the Obama administration who is illegally pocketing significant amounts of taxpayer money. These infractions are occurring in the Department of Defense (DoD) by people extremely close to Obama and represent severe ethical and criminal violations that have recently been reported in the news. It was Obama himself who crafted an “Ethics Pledge” that was signed into law on January 21, 2009, but what has happened within this administration is clearly contrary to the language or spirit of this pledge.
First, a little history. Obama’s successful presidential campaign was heavily dependent on massive amounts of grass-root support and donations. Much of that support also came from so-called “bundlers,” of which a Mr. John Dugan from Chicago, Illinois was an important campaign donation organizer (i.e., an important bundler for Obama). Mr. Dugan is currently a general partner and Co-Founder of OCA Ventures, headquartered in Chicago.
After the election, Obama appointed Mr. Dugan’s niece, Regina Dugan, to become the head of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). DARPA is the research arm of the DoD with an annual budget of over $3 Billion.
Prior to being appointed to DARPA, Regina Dugan had founded a company in Rockville, MD with her father, Vince Dugan, and her uncle, John Dugan, called RedXDefense. The company is privately held and was a small business that employed only 2 to 4 people and survived on Government funding, mostly SBIRs.
Regina Dugan’s appointment to the Directorship of DARPA was a direct result of her family’s significant help (financial and otherwise) to the Obama campaign.
Upon Regina Dugan taking the position as Director of DARPA, she transferred management of RedXDefense to her father, Vince Dugan, who now serves as its Chief Executive Officer (CEO). Regina Dugan’s sister, Christina Haney, also serves as the Vice President of Marketing at RedXDefense. The company is privately held and Regina Dugan claimed in her financial disclosures prior to her appointment as Director by Obama that she was an owner of RedXDefense and that the value of the company was zero (a dubious claim of any company with revenues).
As recently reported in the Los Angles Times (See: http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....9577.story) and Wired Magazine (See: ), it has been discovered that DARPA has awarded contracts worth at least $1,800,000 over the last two years to the company (i.e., RedXDefense) co-owned by the Director of DARPA, namely Regina Dugan, and run by her father.
A spokesperson for Dugan claims that the awards were proper because Regina Dugan recused herself from any role in DARPA’s dealings with RedXDefense. This statement indicates a total lack of understanding of how DARPA functions since every contract and funding award from the Agency is signed off by the Director. Apparently, Regina Dugan appointed the then Deputy Director of DARPA (Robert Lehaney) to oversee any issues that may arise with her company RedXDefense. However, she fired Lehaney a few weeks later. She then brought in a new Deputy Director, Kaigham Gabriel.
Kaigham Gabriel was a Program Manager at DARPA back in the 1990’s and narrowly escaped jail time based on his giving lucrative contracts to companies he subsequently received kickbacks from. It can be surmised that Gabriel was the type of Deputy Director that Dugan wanted under her at the Agency and Gabriel was given the responsibility of overseeing any DARPA dealings with Dugan’s company RedXDefense.
Gabriel has defended the very sizable awards to Dugan’s company in the press stating these conflicts of interest are encouraged by the current leadership of DARPA. Obviously this is very strange statement coming from a high level Government official.
Finally, the Inspector General of the DoD recently started an investigation of this corruption, see:
http://www.dailytech.com/DARPA.....e22463.htm
But here is the irony, while this investigation is going on, Dugan and Gabriel have kept their jobs and have been protected by the White House. Moreover, they are getting free legal aid from the Govt. If they were outside of the Govt, they would have to pay their own legal fees. Also, while they are in their offices at DARPA, they can do more efficient house cleaning.
Why hasn’t the MSM or even sources like Am Spec, National Review, or even Republican Congress members or candidates gone after this story. I suspect there are many other $M’s that have not yet been noticed that Dugan and her cronies have stolen.
A good idea here, forgive some of this debt. College expenses are high because of so much useless crap in college administration. Get these kids to a point where they feel they can have some kind of life. AIG wasn't allowed to fail but Obama and team are letting a whole generation fail. I'm 60+ years old have no college related expenses at this point. This administration totally failed its supporters. I'll hate myself in the morning, but I wish Hillary would run.
True. But this coumn's just ridiculous:. the younger crowd most certainly has not "wised up" in the last 3 years. They will overwhelmingly vote for Obama again. Pluse there are millions of new 18 and 19 and 20 year old voters who have been well indoctrinated in our public schools and universities, and will overwhelmingly vote Obama. Trust me: the young have not suffered NEARLY enough to start to open their eyes and rebel. Not nearly enough.
65% of them will vote for Obama.
I'm tired of whiney college students in the U.S...want want want...me me me...blame blame blame.
Suck it up...nobody owes you anything...you fell for a street preacher...duh...big shock he didn't save the world.
Stop dreaming of having all the toys...this ride isn't over and whinning won't fix it.
Be ready to clean some toilets if you have to. I've done it for years and look...I'm not stressed that I don't have an iPhone, but I can feed myself and not blame everybody else.
President Oboma hasn't shown much leadership and our country needs this despartely. While his party held power in both house and senate legislation was rushed through without review. For the first 18 months of his presedency he appeared to be campaining still. Too much Bush blamining and not enough repairing of the nation he campained to lead. Mr. Obama has accomplished little. I'd like to see an alternate candidate from his party seek the nomination so we could move our nation in some direction instead of stalled.
Seems to me the article is about being unemployed. Where are the jobs? Most students take on debt with the hope of getting a job, not a government bailout! Why should there be more programs? Holy crow.
Oh and I suppose the GOP won't say something like "forget what we did the past 13 years to drive this country into the Great Depression II and we'll do something differently in 2012" The GOP is nothing but a bunch of morons and no way will they be in office to screw up this country after 2012!
The youth have embraced the GOP in Ron Paul.
You got it brother!
Oh...I was expecting this to be a one-word or one sentence article
"Yes"
or
"We never believed in him"
Voting is pointless. No matter who you vote for, they will just go for the lobbyists. Did GW Bush really do anything was that all that "Conservative"? In the end, he campaigned like a Conservative and spent like a Lib. Did Obama do anything that was that "Progressive"? Not Really... In the end, he campaigned like a Lib, and acted like a Conservative (even though Libs and Fox Zombies can't seem to see it). No matter who gets into office, the US will always be at war and every couple years we slip closer and closer to fascism (just a little bit at a time...Patriot Act, NDAA, SOPA, whatever). I'm sorry, but the sad truth is that America is doomed...get out while you still can.
He did make things better. he just didnt do what he promised and he could have done more. But when you look at the GOP candidates, a man who cheated and left his first wife because she was dying of cancer, then left his second wife because she had MS. or we could goi with the guy that will agree with whatever will give him the most votes and has no leadership qualities. Or the crazy guy that wants Iran to have nukes. Hmmmmm
I've given up on America.
Actually it's the Left that is all about money (taking other peoples') and power.
The most intolerant people I know are Leftists – they hate it when I talk about 'political diversity' or 'respecting other peoples' opinions'. That reveals their basic sandbox mentality.
RON PAUL 2012!!!!
Brad Chase is a full scale idiot. Today's students/college grads have been the most coddled crowd academia has ever had. Just getting their coveted and now nearly useless educations has never been more subsidized by America's people than they have been today. Today's students should be furious that Obama's condescending crowd of elite academics has destroyed so much of our economy, by this I mean destroyed today's young people's hopes and dreams, indeed, their prosperity in general, to speak nothing of the their futures and those of their children, in service to Obama's Marxist people-wrecking ideology.
Ron Paul 2012!
RIGHT! Obama lied to us....Stop the war in IRAQ? NOPE just let the Bush clock run out 3 years later. Stop gov't secrecy? NOPE enhance it under the new NDAA. Close Guantanamo and stop keeping people in jail forever without charges? NOPE just kidding. All these things that were going to restore American principles were NOT done. I would rather NOT vote than vote for this liar again.
You know what Im im tired andsick of hearing this load of crap! Bush ruined everything!!! He is the one you amricans should be balming hes the one who decided to invest so much money into the military, and for what!! Only to see your loved ones bekilled or hurt! Even before Obama was elected, everything was falling apart, you just didnt realize it because they covered it up, so that whn obama came in it would look like all this is his fault! Get you head out of the clouds and pay attention, and look, really look!
The reason why youth don't have jobs is because the GOP and Teapartiers keep blocking any job creation ideas coming from the President. Who do I blame? Congress!!!
Because you're definitely not the brightest bulb. You want a dictatorship. Without some blocking, the quarterback gets sacked.
Nothing was said about dictatorship. Your "bulb" is VERY DIM at best!
No what i want is the president that was elected by a landslide majority to be able to represent the people that voted him in without a MINORITY of repukes on the dole of the fat cat superrich people and corporations screwing things up worse and worse!
And you want the death of individual rights.
@ Patrick, why do you fear Dems will remove your individual rights when it is the republicans that passed the patriot act which allows the gov't to spy on you w/o reason or cause?
Patrick, where do you wackos get these ideas? I remember when the auto bailout was passed. Your ilk was saying Obama would be telling us what kind of cars to drive. That sure happened, huh?
@tao. If memory serves me correctly the vote in the Senate was 98 to 1 with one abstaining, which would mean that by your logic in 2001 only two Democrats served in the Senate. Furthermore, according to Wikipedia (I know it is not the most reliable source but for the purposes of an informal comment will do) President Obama approved a four year extension to roving wiretaps, searches of business records and monitoring of "lone-wolves" or in other words the key issues that you have problems with. Did Obama all of a sudden become republican?? History, is again against you and your liberal ilk. I guess lies from honey-coated tongues sound like truth to those who have surrendered their ability to think for themselves and subjugated themselves to those that say they can rule and provide for you better than you can yourself.
it is tea crackpot party that blocks everything, no body talking about dictatorship, it is normal that we have some disagreement, but saying no to all other side opinion is not a compromise
Hey Chris, who was Pres when the Patriot Act was signed? Oh, a Republican? Gee...so when a Republican gives away our rights, it's good? You really need to work on your GED.
Blame all the dittoheads on this forum who voted those conservative members of congress into power. They believe will all their heart and soul that if we give our money to the Donald Trumps and Bill Gates of the world, they will create jobs instead of buying more yachts and homes around the world!
Someone has to build the yachts and the homes they buy. So then it does create jobs. Hmm
bill, who build the stock investments where the majority of their money goes? The workers in the stock investment factory?
Hi, welcome to reality, where those living paycheck to paycheck are the ones infusing the most amount of money into the economy in the form of product purchases that directly result in demand for products and the need to hire more workers.
I think some of you guys forget that Obama and the dems had all the power for his first 2 years. Why did he focus one things that have made America worse than better. If he was to be different why not do something different, but as we found out he was at least the same if not worse.
What a laugh..The people kicked out the DIMRATS from Congress because they felt they were nuts and focusing on things that Americans did not care for. Yes the Republicans which the last Bush was in office went spend crazy. They acted like DemocRATS and were called RINOS. The fact is that both parties are really bad and do not care about anybody but themselves and power. Both parties have back deals with Corporations and Special Interest Groups. People are finally waking up and joing the majority which is now registered Independants.
Is that what Bill Gates does with his money? I thought he invested in new lines of AIDS research and other charities. Silly me.
Why don't you buy stock instead of drugs with your welfare money?
Look, the fact is that the president has to work with congress and historically with the opposing party. This president was very inexperienced and has just not been able to deliver on his promises. We need someone in office who is able to bring the two parties and the country together and stop being so divisive.
And who would that be? Not one of the Republican candidates even knows what the words compromise or cooperation even mean. Obama has tried to work with congress to no avail.
You're right, the president has to work with Congress and the opposing party and vice versa. Obama has tried to deliver on his promises but is faced with an opposing party that from day one has determined to block every effort, resulting in the mess you see.
Well, yeah, that would be nice, but you're not going to get it from any of these republican candidates. No one has made more of an effort to reach across party lines than Obama has. He continues to do it, in a very distinguished and presidential manner. The problem is that republicans hate him so much for being smart and reasonable after the world-wide embarassment of a republican president who preceded him that they do everything in their power to stand in the way of any progress that would actually help this country. You must be blind or ignorant not to realize that the reason we can't get out of this terrible economic crisis is because the republicans don't want us too. If Obama proposed a law to declare the sky blue, the repubs would claim that it isn't. Remember when they took the House in 2010 claiming their focus would be on creating jobs, jobs, jobs? Curiously, they haven't done one thing to promote jobs. All they do is stand in the way because they figure a bad economy is their best hope for regaining control. And guess what? They are the ones who got us into this mess, and they want you to believe that they can get us out. Don't buy it or you'll quikly see things go from bad to worse.
Bringing the parties together... seems like a pipe dream, regardless of which side of the aisle I stand.
@JayC You obviously do not have any knowledge about how the legislative branch works. There are a myriad of things that are passed through the both houses which brook no contention from either side, ie naming a post office. But if there were no debate on issues that are profoundly important we would live in a oligarchy not a democracy. Beware of the sentiment you espouse because it is a few steps away from losing all the rights that we hold dear.
Obama had 2 unopposed years to help the country get on its feet and back to work, but instead chose to shove Obama legislation that no one wanted but would give him a "historical legacy"; which is why the AMERICAN VOTERS voted in congressmen to stop Obama's policies once they saw which direction he was headed. Everyone wanted "change" until they figured out what he meant by "change". I've been all over Europe – great place to visit, but their lifestyle is not as good as ours USED TO BE.
i am middle class retired my saving ,stocks,investment went down hill since Obama in office
while he in vacation spending tax payer money
The President is paying for his own vacation with personal funds. Tax payers money pays for the security detail.
I don't understand how you all can blame O for this entire mess. Do you forget he did not start this landslide? How can you sit there and insist that any republican could have done better when they were not there to resolve it? He inherited a mess that the GOP worked at creating for nearly eight years! And now, instead of working with the democrats, they work against them at every turn. Is that not an abandonment of helping people get out of this mess all in the guise of “keeping us get further into the mess”. The GOP has DESERTED the common citizen during O’s term because they want the white house back. They do not care about the common citizen but there are a lot of wealthy people that want to see them move back into the white house – they are the ones they care about.
Your theory is akin to blaming the Chernobyl clean up crew for persistent radiation. "Hey, they have been here for over a week, why am I still glowing?"
There is something called "the past" or "history" and it, not Obama, usually has an impact on our present and future. If you want your opinion to be respected, please inform yourself instead of being the unwitting voice of a disillusioned power hungry establishment.
People like Jimmy are clueless and worthless Americans, that is why. They focus on their hate, rather than anything else substantial.
Don and Mark, please rid your hearts of this hatred that you have for anyone different than you. I know you are angry, but you should learn to embrace diversity instead of wanting to murder people who have different beliefs than you.
Thanks for the perfect example of the "republican mind filter", somehow you equated what I said to wanting to murder people. Wow. That's I can say...just...Wow. The establishment of fear is complete, overiding common sense also complete. So lock your doors caused we "undiversified" liberals are going on a murder rampage (brought ot you by the good and happy folks of FOX news and spewed out yet another scared and feeble minded sheep.
LOL. Ya, the GOP is the one blocking job creation. Funny. Keystone ring a bell?????????? Why hasn't Obama, your democratic supreme leader, not signed Keystone. Keystone should be a no-brainer, but it is not signed.......you must LOVE being lied to like a little dbag.
Ever hear about the aquifer? The pipeline goes over it. Do you not like clean water? Do you not like a clean environment? He wanted it delayed so it could be studied but just as Fox and the GOP prefer; they claim that he is just costing jobs. All Fox and the GOP care about is the money to be made from it and they use pawns like you to help pass on their propaganda! They could care less about the planet as long as they have the money! Get a brain…start thinking!
The REPUBLICAN governor want's it stopped to re-rout around the largest clean water aquifer in the country
You are using a microscope to try to examine a global issue, no wonder you have no grasp on the reality of the situation. Stop focusing on "predertmined talking points" and get informed. It's not because you can type a on a keyboard that your opinion is valid or well founded. Monkeys can type but they don't put that much thought in it either.
I love how "environmental" considerations are used to block the keystone pipeline. First pipelines are everywhere and there is more threat to contamination of any aquifer from gas station tanks than from any new pipeline. Second, and most important is that is about protecting WARREN BUFFET's railroad that is currently hauling the crude oil from the Bakken to the gulf. I am sick of the idiots on both sides of the isle blaming each other for corruption when both parties pull this slight of hand and steal us blind! Partisanship demonstrates an absolute lack of intelligent thought!
To neptonomist sentry, you couldn’t be more wrong about me being a hater; I am just the opposite. I enjoy diversity than most people I know and practice it every day. I don’t even hate the Fox watchers; I feel it is sad that people find a news “commentary” channel so right in what they say. I have plenty of friends on both sides of the fence so I find it offensive that you would even begin to label me a hater or murderer; that is something that I have noticed a lot of Fox watchers are into. I don’t even dislike you; just disagree with your statements but you have a right to those and you beliefs. Have a great day!
I agree 100%
Obama had a majority in both houses the first 2 years of his presidency, and he squandered it to get his stupid health care bill passed, instead of focusing on getting the country back to work. That was exactly why he lost the majority iin the house, and why the majority in the Senate was reduced. It is also why so many long term democrats are choosing not to run again. They see the writing on the wall.
If he had gotten a UHC plan passed and gotten us away from our healthcare being provided by employers it would have put about 8% of our earnings back in our pockets and freed small business from their biggest cost. The failure to get this achieved was on the Dems in Congress, not Obama. Unfortunately, a Blue Dog is just a Republican that doesn't like being told what to vote for by GOP party central, so he didn't have the support he needed to reform the biggest money suck this nation has ever faced.
I was reading your comment until I cam accorss the words "stupid healthcare bill" at which point you became just another sheep. If you want to live in a safe society, if you want to be proud of your community, if you truly want to improve the world for your kids, then everyone should have health coverage. If you don't get that simple freaen fact, then you have nothing to offer to an "improved human condition". Think beyond yourself for once you egotistical slug.
@Marc. Does the Declaration of Independence not say that we are imbued with certain inalienable rights including "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." How can a federal mandate for insurance be in line with those inalienable rights? How do I have a right to life when there are rumors of "death panels," I say rumor because the UHC doesn't go into effect fully until after Obama's second midterm election (assuming he gets reelected). How do I have a right to liberty when the government tells me I have to have insurance that adheres to the rules they created? How do I have the right to the pursuit of happiness when Liberals say that I am not responsible even to make mature decision on how I conduct my life. Give thoughtful, rational and logical responses to these and I will take time out of my day to consider them.
@ Christopher Yoder. How easy is it to rationalize children dying in a rich country like the US by diluting it with "rights and freedoms". I bet you and your family have health care but what if they didn't, like MILLIONS of your fellow Americans? Where is your die hard patriotism? Where s the American dream for these people? See Chris, the problem is you don't have a clue. I trust that if a child showed up on your doorstep you would take care of him/her, no matter what, so the only difference is perspective. And perspective can be altered easily with fear, misinformation and supposed oppression. But again, you have no idea what I am talking about, you are not nor will you ever be self aware. So stick to your guns and continue spewing the rhetoric of others since you are unable to achieve independant thought. BTW, I live in Canada and we have free and amazing healthcare, also lower crime, better quality of life, etc., etc., etc. so get a clue and look beyond your retarded borders.
Great point Mike!
The reason so many youths are unemployed is 2 fold. First, we have a bad economy. We've had a bad economy for years, it's not this Congress's fault, it's not the President's fault, it's not Bush's fault. Or, should I say, they're ALL to blame, along with several other factors that our government can't/doesn't control. Secondly, a HUGE % of this demographic is made up of students who don't work. I wonder what the graphic would look like this those who are WILLINGLY unemployed were excluded.
That being said, I'm 25. I was a HUGE supporter of Obama in 2008. I'll still probably vote for Obama, as I don't see a good candidate from the Republicans yet. That being said, for the first time in my life (I grew up in a democrat household) I'm listening to the Republicans, looking for someone to like better than Obama. I haven't found one, yet, but I'm looking.
Obama has failed in his first term. Those who blame Congress have a short enough memory to NOT remember that Dem's had the House and Senate for 2 years under Obama, and had a filibuster-proof Senate for that matter. Obama still didn't accomplish what he should have.
I didn't know that about Student Loan debt being protected only as of 2005. That really bites, and should be fixed. Protecting tens of thousands of dollars from bankruptcy relief is just wrong.
Stop saying he had a filibuster proof congress when the most democratic senators he had was 58 when you need 60. You know this and still parrot this crap.
Sorry, KK Denver, you're right.
The Democrats didn't have 60 seats for 2 years.
They had 60 seats for one year.
I stand corrected that the Democrats didn't have 2 years of full, unquestioned control, only 1 year.
All reasonable people counting the Democrat's filibuster proof majority count the two "Democrats except in name" in the Senate who are each politically to the left of mainstream Democrats and who voted 100% solidly with the Democrats against the Republicans during that period. Note also the lack of actual filibusters (Compare to the constant filibusters by Democrats during the period that Bush had a slim majority in the Senate).
This shows exactly why we need an IQ test for voting rights. People talk, yet know nothing. Obama had a supermajority in the senate and house his first two years, yet did NOTHING to bring us jobs or fix the economy, instead choosing to give us a healthcare bill nobody wanted, and which has made the corporations start sitting on TRILLIONS instead of hiring with them, making the economy worse. This resulted in the AMERICAN PEOPLE sending republicans to the house, it didnt happen for no reason. Republicans, as bad as they are, control 1/3 of government and have only done so for the last 11 months, not since Obama took office. Wake up!
You are wrong on all counts except for one Joe, the IQ test for voting is a GREAT idea. But in my scenario, your IQ have to be high enough to vote and not vice versa. You probably won't get this comment so call one of your democratic acquaintances to explain.
@ Marc. I challenge not only you but all of your brethren and ilk on this website to compose a rational, logical and thoughtful response to those that do not agree with you instead of parroting talking points to a degree and with a vehemence that the "conservatives" on this site do not share or to resorting to personal attacks when you realize that your ideology is an ideology of enslavement not liberty but of dictatorship or an oligarchy (at the best) instead of democracy. You and your ilk have abandoned the enlightened (the philosophical movement) principles on which this country was founded. You and your ilk have surrendered your ability to think and be an individual for the supposed comfort of the collective.
@ Christopher Yoder. You have an amazing vocabulary (albeit redundant) for a person with such an ignorant perspective. Look at congress and tell me you are proud. Look at the state of poverty in your country and tell me you are proud. Look at the republican candidates and tell me, without laughing, that you are proud. Herman Cain? Sarah Palin? Michele Bachman? They were potential candidates for the office of PRESIDENT, that is all the proof I need. Now I could go back and provide you with (wait for it) a plethora of reasons why your head is up your you know what but it wouldn't make a difference. You have no idea what your existence is about, you are but a pawn in the game of life (Mongo, Blazzing Saddles). So continue to attempt to counter reason with an elaborate vocabulary, it will work on those who are impressed by such edumucation (little minds) but not by us "thinkers". I feel bad for our friends to the South but believe that there is still a majority of people who possess enough brains to recognize substances over form and you my eloquent friend "ain't" one of them.
Oddly enough the jobs most college students are looking for aren't in physical labor and infrastructure. That might be because of the high hopes left minded people have fed them since day one. Not everyone can be a doctor. Less people should go to college it is not necessary for many jobs. Let the military men make infrastructure it will give them something to do since war is so evil. We have to pay them anyways. Infrastructure jobs are never long term which is the kind of planning our govt should be doing. Sadly they know we are all too stupid to look long term and offer these short term bandage fixes. Obama or the GOP is really just a question of whos face is on tube when we fail.
Yup... how many young people actually want to work? There are plenty of jobs out there.... funny, but when I was in High School, kids I knew worked at McDonalds & Burger King....
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I bet all you air-headed liberals do not even know what bills the republicans in the house passed.
They passed a balanced budget and many jobs bills.
Who ignored the bills? Thats right- the Senate Dems!
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So how has Obama tried to create jobs? Just give money away with no way to pay for it. As a country, we cannot continue to give something for nothing. I love how the Liberals say "the Republicans are stopping it". What happened during the first two years of the presidency? The Democrats had control and yet they still passed nothing.
you guys in the media pumped him up too much in the 08 election.the media created a savior and now reality sets in.
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I am a 24 year old college graduate with over $150,000 of student loan debt. Unfortunately, I went to a private university and took out private student loans. I've fallen into deep depression, anxiety, and have lost the will to live because of my excessive student loans. I work a job that once paid well, but because of the economy, it no longer pays well - and I've been faced with further cuts to my salary. I also work two jobs... so those who say I'm not trying hard enough... I am ! I want to jump off a bridge because I owe so much in student loans... and the creditors will not stop contacting me. I have no money!
Everyday, it's a choice between living on the streets and having one meal per day (or sometimes one meal every two days) – or – paying off my minimum monthly loan payments. I was hospitalized for a day because I had chest pains a few months ago from stress, and that day in the hospital ended up costing $12,000! I have no chance at life anymore. An attorney said that bankruptcy would have saved me from my private student loans prior to Congress' passage of a 2005 credit card reform act. But that is no longer the case. The system is completely setup to fail everyone BUT the big banks and corporations. Last month, I had no option but to default on my student loans. I need to eat more than once a day – and – I cannot imagine myself living on the streets. Sorry Sallie Mae. Sorry Wells Fargo. I know I will pay the price of a bad credit history, but you guys have been too much... and Bankruptcy is NOT an option for me.
Funny, I enlisted in the Marine Corps, served my Country, used the GI Bill and part time work while attending a top-rated public college, and graduated with $5,000 in student loans. I worked for a couple of years and then went to a top-tier nationally ranked private graduate school for three years and incurred less than $100,000 in very manageable debt, all without any family or other outside support. Of course, I lived in near squalor while being a student, drove cars that cost less than $5,000, worked during spring break instead of traveling to the beach, etc. etc. Should I have to pay for your bad decisions?
You served in the military? Good for you. Unlike you, I did not have the luxury to the GI Bill. Could I have attended a state school? Most certainly - and that is my biggest mistake. Had I had the opportunity to do it over, I would attend a community college and public university. Now I am paying the price... but do I deserve to pay the price for the rest of my life? Unfortunately, I was young, made a mistake, and opted for a top-ten ranked private university... to which tuition was about $40,000 a year (with minimum scholarship and tuition assistance).
You had a car during college. I did not have a car during college. I worked hard to live frugally, worked a job through three of the four spring breaks (like you), and even worked through summer and winter breaks. I never even signed up for a credit card. However, I soon discovered that my attempts to live frugally was pointless... as the real enemy was the student loans (particularly, the private student loans) that had essentially put me down to the point where I feel it's pointless to live. Interest compounded at a dramatic rate, endless fees that come out of no where, and even fees to transfer money from the checking account to pay for the loan itself!
I can only have sympathy for those in my similar situation. I also have sympathy for those that are struggling right now... barely able to make it.
I am not a party person, but a results person. Obama has not given the results needed to uplift our country, therefore I will not vote for him. Simple as that. No name calling or party bashing here, just simple fact.
Perhaps you should make it your goal not to let this happen to other people. While I feel sorry for you having to live a life always paying back for previous choices that is unfortunately the life that you choose for yourself upon accepting those loans. Young people are only living for the moment, never taking the time to calculate the reverberations of them choosing to take out the equivalent of a house loan for their education. Then again people taking out a house loan for nearly 100% of the house aren't taking the time to calculate either, even at a small % interest how can you not realize that you pay over double what you are actually borrowing!! Although there are many making the bad mistakes in their life, that is just what it is life...it is what you make it and others should not have to absorb the debt in order to make life easier for those others that made these mistakes. Perhaps it should be brought about to ask for reductions in interest rates. I myself do not have these loans, but try my hardest to make those I know understand the problems of taking out such a large amount for an education. Sadly....I have family members which are going to be looking at the same thing. Especially when people are taking out these loans for degrees which are utterly useless in trying to find a job.
A $5 length of rope will solve your problem.
Ok it's not funny to suggest suicide to someone – if this post is real – who is actually feeling suicidal. As for the original post, there are ways to eventually work your way out of the debt and lack of money is not a reason to give up on life. I suggest you contact a local church or synagogue – whether you are religious or not – and they can usually point you in the direction of services to assist you while you are struggling.
Unfortunately, this is a real post. Thank you for your concern.
Didn't you read his post? He does not have the 5$ because of the raw deal America gave him by asking that he borrow what he can afford to pay back.
You really need to leave the discussion. That kind of response is very irresponsible.
perhaps you should practice what you preach.
"Fool of a Took! Throw YOURSELF in next time and rid us of your stupidity." – Gandalf the Grey, "Lord of the Rings"
You're remarks proves there are others who would be best served by said rope. Jerk!
Completely uncalled for. This post should be removed. How are you going to feel if this person does take their life due to your comment. GROW UP AND ACT RESPONSIBLE. That is the problem with the Internet, people can make statements without taking ownership.
Jon,
I totally understand where you are coming from on this issue. I'm a college student myself. The reason we attennd college is to obtain a degree, and get a career that compliments the degree we received. I want to continue on to law school, and I know the loans have a chance on piling on even higher. I know you stated the sacrifices that you have made, just to keep your payments on time. Hang in there, can't let creditors or anyone else bring you down. If you're intertested I have a Face Book Fan Page called Optimism. You will recognize the picture having a statue with 2 people.
Thank you... I just wanted to vent somewhere – and – I'm glad someone can understand.
That is the problem right there. Too many lawyers already, and still more and more go into the field expecting top dollar salary returns. If you are expecting to come out of college making 100,000, think again. We don't you do something that actually helps people, instead of just padding your pocketbook.
150000 in debt? what did you go to school for? thats the top of the spectrum. you recieved no scholarships to attend a high end private university? doesnt anyone read terms and conditions on loan contracts anymore? 12000 for one day in the hospital for panic attack chest pains? been there, done that plus all the follow up doctors visits and tests and my costs were nowhere near 12000 all combined. hell not even 5000. i'd question that...
I received some scholarship money, and I attended a top 10-rated private university. My tuition was about $40,000 per year. As for the military, I too wanted to serve... but with the amount of student loans I have, I was told that I would not qualify for a security clearance. Granted, I graduated with a 3.8 GPA. As for m $12,000 hospital bill, I also had several tests conducted... including a CAT scan, X-Rays, blood tests, and other tests. I stayed at the hospital for a 36-hour period.
It's very possible to get a large bill from the hospital if you don't have insurance. 12K, I can't say, but I got charged 2K for a 4 hour visit to the hospital. They gave me an x-ray, a knee immobilzer, and crutches and charged me 2K. Oh, the the x-ray was only $495. It's insane.
Blame ObamaCare for the high healthcare bills. It is only going to get worse.
God, give me strength....It takes a strong stomach to listen to some of the apathy toward the plight of our educated enslaved youth. These are the very people we will soon depend on to lead us into an uncertain future that only grows more complex every single day. The problem here is perspective, those of you who find yourself criticizing these people are of the view that the world isn't changing. That it's 1950, and things are just going to stay the same forever, america is #1, and all problems can be solved with good old common sense. This is probably why you nominate some of the most agregiously stupid individuals america has to offer to represent you in government. You devalue education, and that's precisely why you feel no sympathy for a person that has to borrow huge sums of money to acquire one, and why you despise a president for having such an impressive one. You should know, that other countries, the ones that will someday very soon surpass us, are not and do not hold education in such contempt. I'll tell you what, don't send your children to college, and call me back in 25 years when mine have finished, and we'll see who has the better outcome.
"Blame ObamaCare for the high healthcare bills. It is only going to get worse."
And this just takes the cake......This is the most ill-informed pile of excriment every dreamed of by any blow-hard in the history of the internet.......bold judgement I know, but seriously, blame Obamacare? You don't know the slightest thing about why I set my mark up on drugs at 350%. It's not because of Obamacare, which by the way, hasn't even been implemented to any measurable degree!!!! No, it's because people come to the hospital without insurance for whatever reason, and then don't pay their bill. So, I charge those that have insurance, and do pay, 350% above the average wholesale price for the medications to cover those that don't pay. Obamacare, my sorely ill-informed friend, is a massive sell out to private insurers who now have a government mandate that forces these uninsured into the insurance pools with the rest of us. So the government is attempting to force the uninsured, remember I just told you that their inability to pay is why I charge you so much, to get coverage. That means, when implemented, I won't have to charge as much for drugs, because no matter who walks through that door, they will be covered and I will expect to be compensated for services and supplies rendered. Please, the next time you decide it feels appropriate to pop off and say something so ridiculous, go to school for 8-10 years, become a healthcare professional, and glean a smidgeon of insight before you cast such a broad generalization. Such obviously shallow thoguht on any topic leads the reader to the conclusion that you are most likely a buffoon.
Jon, Please don't give up on life! You are too young and have so much potential. Just take it one day at a time, and ask G-d to help you. There is hope!
Thank you... I hope that there is some hope.
You you want help with this very serious problem that you have gotten yourself into, then you need to seek out Dave Ramsey. Dave Ramsey and his Financial Peace University will help you. My brother told me about Dave Ramsey three years ago, I am completely debt free, and now saving for a house. You my friend, are in a serious predicament. I will pray for you and so will others who are reading your post. There is a way out of this mess, listen to Dave Ramsey's show, he has people who call in every day with financial disasters and he helps them get back on track. You can do this, have faith that someone can hep you pull through this...
Dear Jon,
Please take heart. Above all, PLEASE dont think of taking your life. I understand how frustrated and depressed you are, but please remember that there are many people in worse situations than your self. At least you went to school, many people dont have that opportunity.
Please take heart, I have found spirituality (not religion) to be a great help in time of crisis. Find a church where you can connect with God. All will be well
There was no reason for you to incur $150,000 in debt. I am not sure what state you live in but chances are there is public state university that you could have attended for around $10,000-$15,000 per year. You obviously were set on attending this private university and didn't take enough time to think about the ramifications of graduating with a large amount of debt. No one is guaranteed a job upon graduation whether you attend a community college or Ivy League school. There is also a better change of finding employment if you major in a field in demand. Majored in accounting? You will most likely find a decent paying job. Majored in women's studies, African arts, or basket weaving? You most likely will NOT find a high paying job or any job for that matter whether we are experiencing a good economy or bad. We are all taught how to add and subtract in first grade.......all you needed to do was use these basic principles to see that incurring $150,000 in debt before beginning any full time employment was not a good idea. I wish you the best of luck and don't want anybody to be unhappy but I don't want to pay for your bad decisions and stupidity.
Hang in there Jon ..... you obviously have a good work ethic ..... You have a good Education, as you gain experience you will be able to get better job... and better pay.
So, it's the Republican's fault that you have a $150K student loan? Join the service, do something for this country, and yourself other than leeching off others. You borrowerd it, YOU pay it off.
Jon, I sympathize, to a point. The fact is, you made a truly bad decision in choosing to acquire so much debt for your education. Like some of the others who posted, I enlisted in the military, and put myself through college, after which point I became a commissioned officer, and am still serving (26 years so far, hoping to go to 37!). I did take some sstudent loans, but paid them off two years out of school, because I borrowed as little as possible. Otherwise, I worked my way through college to cover the gaps between what The GI Bill paid, and what was left.
That being said, you need to get yourself to a credit couselor. Make sure you choose a non-profit. They can help you devise a plan. One of the first things you need to do is look at your montly expenses (besides the Student Loans) and figure out what you can reduce. Find a cheaper place to live, or get a room-mate to share the bills. Some things that you don't need when you financially strapped? Cable TV (they still broadcast over the air), Fancy cell phones (forget the Android – get a basic no contract pay as you go phone, just minutes, no texting). If you have a car, is it paid for? If not, dump it and get a used car you can pay cash for. Better yet, if you have access to public transportation, just use that. Become familiar with your local Goodwill or Salvation Army Thrift store. Learn to shop for your groceries at Aldi. And the military is still an option for you. The Reserves or National Guard have programs like the Student Loan Repayment Program, which will provide you with up to $5000.00 per year to pay against your loan debt, on top of the paycheck it provides. Depending on the specialty you choose, you can even qualify for an enlistment bonus, as well as the GI Bill, which you can use later for further education, if you so decide. Having a degree, you could become an officer, which is a higher pay scale. If you need health Insurance, you can get it through the reserves for a very reasonable price. And, you will become part of a family that will support you and stand by you. Take it from me – 10 years ago, I lost my business and had to declare bankruptcy. The National Guard kept me going while I rebuilt, and eventually, I went full time with the Guard. This year, My wife and I will be buying our dream house, now that she has finished school (which she used my Post 9-11 GI Bill to pay for, by the way).
Bottom line, you have options. My question to you is, are you willing to do the work to get past this, or are you just looking for someone to give you handout? Remember, you are never beaten until you give up.
I share a 2-bedroom apartment with three other people. I have no car. I have no credit cards. I have a prepaid cell phone. I haven't bought a new wardrobe in ages. I work two jobs. My student loan payments are more than these items combined! I tried inquiring to join the military... but they said that because of the amount of student loans I owe, I would not be able to attain security clearance to become an officer.
I mean this with the greatest of respect, but the cost of even public university has risen a lot in two and a half decades. I worked my way through university to borrow as little as possible, and I'm still struggling.
Jon, I don't know what else to tell you, except don't give up. I have been through some dark days, too. When I lost my business, I lost everything, and while I was able to declare bankruptcy on most of the debt, some of it remained, and I had to work through that while supporting my wife (who had Brain Surgery 2 years later) and children. For a long time, it seemed like nothing would ever go right for me. But eventually, you will see light at the end of the tunnel. Focus on the day to day things first. Pay what you can on the debt, and look around for a better job. I am curious what you majored in, though. Several other posters have asked, but you seem hesitant to respond. So, I will ask again – What was the major that was worth over $150,000.00?
If anyone knows what it looks like to borrow money and not have a secure way to pay it back,it would be you. Did you ever have one thought that borrowing money with no job or means to pay it back might be a mistake? You'll make a great Democrat.
Anyone can think up a great idea to spend money for a worthy cause, it takes a smart person to realize that even a great idea has to have a way to pay for that idea. Why wouldn't everyone just do like you did and borrow from the future? Here's why. It's not smart. Have you ever thought about relocating to another area that the job situation is a little better?
Or...You can follow Obama's philosophy and borrow MORE money in hopes that things will change in the future. You're gambling with your future, he's gambling with the countries future.
Jon, have you tried requesting a forebearance due to financial hardship? I did a forebearance 3 years straight because my field just didn't pay a lot starting out – not to mention the high cost of living in the area I got a job. I'm paying my loans back now, but the interest did add to my principle. If you can, try consolidating your loans – if you haven't already – and ask for a forebearance. And when that forebearance runs out and you need another, ask again. I don't know when you graduated, but I know the Obama administration has a program where you only pay a small percentage of your discretionary income (I think 10 or 20%). Also, public service can help you get your loans forgiven faster. That doesn't just mean the military. You could be an educator or get a job in law enforcement.
Please don't give up. It gets better, I promise you. I had it hard, too. Don't listen to these old blowhards on here playing their, "I've got mine now get your's mentality." It probably cost only $2k a year or less for them to go to school. They probably didn't have to pay $1200+ utilities for a 350 sq ft studio apartment and if you get a roommate or two and get a multi-room apt. you'd still be paying about that much in many urban areas – where most of the jobs exist. They probably didn't have to pay $2.59 for a half gallon of milk or $3+ for a tank of gas or increased public transportation fare.
To the bashers on here, you can say what you will about bad decisions, but the damage is done. Jon doesn't have a time machine. Do you realize that if Jon asked 2% of this country for a dollar, he's loan debt would probably be solved? So you can whine all you want about having to pay for someone else. As someone who's struggled and has started to make it, I don't mind that one dollar of my taxes going to help my fellow American make it, too. It shames me that more people don't feel the same, especially those who claim to be Christian.
You or your parents are the worst investors in this country. You are clearly not worth that much debt. Pick a real field of study in a future life. Don't waste that much money on a major you could get for half that at any public university. Enjoy your self earned debt.
Jon – Talk to a bankruptcy lawyer. It is not the end of the world to file, and most people who end up filing for bankruptcy after graduation and having excessive bills are pitied. Do yourself a favor and get rid of your stress by eliminating the financial burden. You will be able to own a home one day, a car, etc. Good luck to you!
Why do you have 150,000 in school debt? Did you really believe this was a good idea?
One of my favorite quotes: "Will: See the sad thing about a guy like you, is in about 50 years you’re gonna start doin' some thinkin' on your own and you’re gonna come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life. One, don't do that. And two, you dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a f*****’ education you coulda' got for a dollar fifty in late charges at the Public Library."
I'm staunchly opposed to school debt relief. If you're too dumb to figure out that the schools are having their way with you - that the investment is _far_ overrated compared to the return - maybe higher education wasn't for you in the first place. But be happy, you're paying for the new luxury commons... yeah!
Long term, a better way to deal with the cost of schooling as a society would be to cut back on the subsidies; quit the third party payment. Make students answer the question: is it really worth it.
Jon, I totally understand your situation. I know many will not agree with what I am about to say, but I don't care. Jon, don't pay the student loans! I would stop stressing and worrying about it. Go to work, save as much as you can, and move forward. The bad credit will remain on your credit report for 7 years. After that you can get the bad information removed from your credit. If you continue to work, and save as much as possible you will be in a good position after those 7 years are up. No amount of money is worth killing yourself over stress, and needless panic attacks! I have high student loans, but unlike you the bulk of my loans are federal. I only have one private loan, and I paying on it over my federal loans because my federal loans have better deferment options. I would love for Congress to get serious about doing something to reign in the exorbitant cost of education, but no one seems to care. By the way soaring education costs have been a problem for over 30 years now, and neither side of the political isle has done much to fix or address the problem. Sen. Durbin from Illinois did introduce a bill to reinstate the ability to discharge private student loan debt in a bankruptcy, but so far nothing has been done. What I don't understand is the hypocrisy in this country. We say we believe in education, but we don't stand by that. Why is the interest on a house cheaper than the interest on student loans? At best the interest on federal student loans should 2-2.5%, and the interest should be deductible for the life of the loan no matter what income bracket you are in. It should be treated the same as mortgage interest deduction. Jon I hope things get better for you. Whatever you do stop stressing, and please don't harm yourself. You would be better off, just not paying back the loans. You can change your phone number and the harassing calls will stop, and return the mail back to sender! My point is do not allow the greedy banks to make you ill or drive you into depression! I wish the very best to you!
hi Jon,
Question, who choose to borrow money for a student loan that you cannot affoard to repay; you or the system?
I have to ask the question - what is your degree in?
Jon,
I am sorry to hear your situation. Please take care. Don't give up.
I hope you are able to work and have a place to live where you are. If not, you might think about going overseas to teach English (ex. in South Korea). You would probably have to contract out for a year or so. But, I think they can help provide a place to live. It would probably take years to pay down the student debt though. But, don't feel like you have to live on the street.
I don't know what to tell you. I"m sorry you have such a loan. I don't think that big of a loan should have been taken out. But, what is done is done. Now, you just have to work awhile to fix it. But, there are jobs overseas. I'm not saying do that, but it is an option. You need to have a place to live and food.
I am a university student too.
But, either way...please get help. There is hope. God, family, friends, people care about you. Don't give up.
GOP won't get the youth vote. If our generation is unhappy with Obama, we simply won't vote. There is no viable GOP candidate that even REMOTELY speaks to our generation. Ron Paul has the most youth support, but isn't an electable candidate with the rest of the nation.
As a youth voter, I agree with everything you said except the Ron Paul comment. I would entertain a GOP vote if I was shown a candidate that didn't strike me as a complete moron, but so far I haven't seen that.
As for Ron Paul, the guy thinks firing 200,000 federal employees is a good way to make jobs. He wants to deregulate industry and lower corporate taxes. The guy is a corporate puppet and would be worst than most of his fellow GOP candidates, no thanks!
This is the scenario:
Romney vs. Obama = Obama win.
Gingrich vs. Obama = Obama win.
Perry vs. Obama = Obama win.
Bachman, Santorum, etc., = Obama wins.
Ron Paul is the only candidate with the synergy that Obama had in 08. True, he's not the first choice for the GOP, but they'd vote for him when they realize centrists, independents and disenfranchised Democrats will vote for him too. That would likely be enough to take Obama out. It's a gamble but the only shot the GOP has. If they're concerned about his age or if he's not 'churchy' enough, throw a young bible-beater on the vice ticket to keep them happy.
I'm a registered Democrat in a liberal state, voted for Obama, who now, like most people, sees that this tug of war from the left to the right is going nowhere. And if Paul runs on that, Obama is out.
But then, the real work begins. We need Washington essentially disassembled and rebuilt to serve ALL classes, low, middle, AND upper, while passionately focusing on the first two. Create a huge corporate tax for companies that employ overseas labor, and THAT will level the playing field and motivate corporations to consider keeping their jobs here.
There is no way that I will ever vote Republican again - as I had before and during college. The Republican GOP Party cares nothing of the middle- and low-class. Romney and Huntsman are probably the most moderate candidates... but the fact that they have an (R) after their name is scary at this point. I am in no mood for the Republican Party's idea of "Capitalism" - which seems to equate to more power for corporations, no bankruptcy for student loans, and against the idea of a nationalized health care - which has been adopted by other first-world nations, including Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Sweden, United Kingdom - and countless others.
I am 24 years old. I will be voting Democrat.
Obama didn't do anything he campaigned on, I will not be voting for him again this election. My vote will go to Ron Paul.
He orders arrests on the sick for use of medical marijuana when he campaigned he wouldn't, I guess synthetic heroin is better because it comes in pill form. Kept guitmo open, continued war waging(Only reason we left Iraq is they would agree not to persecute american soldiers), resigning the Patriot Act, NDAA, and now SOPA.
The last straw is the support for NDAA and SOPA. Signing the NDAA is a sad day in American history the ability to detain and inprision Americans with no trial just sickens me(See Nazi Gestapo act )
Thank you for the hope and change, all I received was less civil liberties.
The media might not like Ron Paul but the youth of the nation do.
Justin, I thought the NDAA applied to American citizens as well, and I was very upset, but a little investigation revealed that it is not true. It doesn't. He got Bin Laden. He said he would. He repealed the DODT policy. He ended the war in Iraq as he said he would. He said he supported our efforts in Afghanistan, he did not promise to end that war at all. Now I can tell you like Paul, and all I can say is that Ron Paul does not support you, not by a long shot. If you get in any kind of trouble at all, even as a victim, Ron Paul will leave you twisting in the wind. He may have some good ideas, but you don't have to elect a nut to use good ideas. Ron Paul the man comes as a package, a dangerous package.
You're age group not voting is what allowed the Tea Baggers to send all those inexperienced angry red necks in to Congress last year .... which now has the lowest approval rating ever.... If half the # came out in 2010 that came out in 2008 , we wouldn't have this Do Nothing but Obstruct Obama Congress.
End the drug war would also be a major youth theme ans many young lives are destroyed by prohibition.
You sound like a retarded parrot....."End the drug war". That will solve nothing, pothead.
Well, you are one ignorant piece of work. Ending the 'drug war' would indeed do a great many things, such as free up several billion dollars a year. It would empty the overcrowded jails. There would be fewer 'covert' wars as all the three letter agencies would lose their secret funding. Also, a couple corporations on the stock exchange would probably disappear and police agencies would have to return to fighting actual social crimes instead of enforcing state dictated morality. Funny how the vast majority of drug prohibitionists abuse alcohol and prescription drugs.
Absolutely agree, but it's political suicide. First you need to nix this whole religion fantasy. Then the entire "morale majority" need to learn to read a book or two. Finally, you need to put congress in a minivan and hotbox them for about 10 minutes. I guarantee that a few "conflicts" would end and things would go forward. Fear and power are not as powerful foes as we may think, we just need to "chill" from time to time to see just how ridiculous these emotions can make us..
FYI CNN – Everyone has given up on Obama.
Yes and who do you think is good to be president, Sarah "moma grizzly" Palin? Old faithful (with his wives) Newtie boy?
Using insulting names for one's opponents seems to be the sole intellectual contribution of the liberal left these days. I remember a time when liberals did more than name-call. People like you are an embarrassment to a once-honorable political philosophy.
Wow heather. You say name calling in the cornerstone of the liberal left and that this practice is pathetic but in the very next post you call us all idiots. So i will fulfill your stereotype with one last name just for you: hypocrite.
"Idiot" isn't a name. It's an adjective. Don't be an idiot.
In 2008 our country was hijacked by a shyster from Chicago using "hope" and "racism" as his main talking points. Odd mixture, don't you think, for someone who claimed he would be a uniter? The little girl singing the "Obama" song - like children in the 1950s used to sing about Jesus - will remain forever emblazoned in my brain as emblematic of the cool aid everyone, especially the media, were drinking. Speaking of HOPE, I hope the idiots who voted for him last time will stay home this time.
y u sound so mad heather?
Heather Hypocrite-
Only a reactionary idiot would post something as completely ridiculous as your comments.
Using insulting names for one's opponents like "shyster" and "idiot" seems to be the sole intellectual contribution of the reactionary right these days. People like you are a further embarrassment to a completely dishonorable political philosophy.
Heather, you're right.
Blacks voted for him because he was, well, BLACK. Guilty, self hating liberal whites voted for him to show that they could vote for a black guy. "Look at me, I'm a white guy voting for a black! See, I'm cool!" He won because 2 groups of people had something to prove.
Heather, he is black, get over it. No, really, in your heart, get over it. It's ok to let go of what you believe and embrace reality. You have more issues than a black president Heather, I bet you your Dad a racist as well. I'm sure you don't use the "n" word at family dinners but in your hearts, that what they are. So hide the "white women" until we can get a true upstanding citizens like Cain, nah, didn't work out...Palin, nope, Perry, can't talk good...Newt, really?...seriously?, how about Bachman?...mhouahahaha, I think in the series finally, all these debates will be revealed to be an elaborate SNL skit. Heather, sleep with a black guy, it's what you really want don't you?
Pfft. You wish. There isn't anyone in the GOP field that offers anything, and doesn't scare the pants off anyone that is not an internet troll like yourself. Obama 2012. Four more years are coming. Deal with it.
Basing that on the 8% approval rating the 2010 Elected Anti Obama Congress has? The lowest in History? Get ready for 4 more years ..... Maybe he'll double the Dow Jones again.
Just for context. Doubling the DOW is not hard when it was halfed when he took office. Bush almost doubled it in his term. As did clinton and reagan. The fact that the DOW doubled and the economy as a whole is still stalled should point out something woefully obvious to the rest of us. He is a big business supporter. He has built wall st back up on our backs. He is as harmful as the right in opposite ways. A vote for anyone at this point is a vote for complete and utter failure. But hey man he single handedly doubled that DOW. You say it as if he is the one pulling all the strings that make that number move.
yes, i voted for obama last time... have since threw away my t-shrit... this time I'm supporting Romney
Is everyone having given up on him why he soundly beats every Republican challenger out there in x vs y polling? Don't let facts get in the way of your roll, though. We have, however, pretty much given up on Congress. That the Republican minority can filibuster and stall everything the Dems try to do is a major failing in it's operational structure.
Just the kind of well-thought-out comment I'd expect from someone named "dude"
If they think Obama is bad, the alternative is 100 times worse! That ought to be motivation enough to vote for Obama because by not voting for him you are making it easier for the GOP to regain power and send this country back into a death spiral like the did in the past. Obama is not perfect, no one is, but at least he's more aligned with the middle class than the GOP who pander only to the wealthy and greedy corporations. Don't be foolish.
Well said.
You mean his more aligned with public sector unions and welfare moms.
You WANT to be affiliated with those groups, Billy boy!
I couldn't have said it any better. People think that a President just does things with a magic wand. Truth is, he needs help from Congress to get anything done. Vote for Obama and any Democrat in your district. Republicans will destry the economy even further.
Only if they have birth certificates!
you forgot to mention the religious nutbags in your list of GOP crowd pleasers.
How is he aligned with the middle class? None of them are.
Aligned with the muslims and socialists.
Yes only the right pander to the rich. Except the rich are more aligned with the left. All of obamas fundraisers have been with the rich. He has recreated the wall st that got us here on the backs of americans. He has made more bailouts for the rich than the rest. He has created huge deficits mostly to save corporate america. It is sad how equally delusional the far left has become in comparison to the far right. With morons like you who think Obama is for the middle class we have no chance. The left and right will use tools like you until they both destroy this country.
Obama is destroying the Future of our Youth!!
As opposed to Bush I and II who destroyed the Youth of Our Future in Iraq and Afghanistan
How exactly is Obama destroying the future?
that's not important to these people. what IS important is that if they say it often enough, suddenly it become true.
By almost Doubling the Dow Jones since his 5th week in office? By providing you with Health Care? By keeping unemployment WELL Below Conservative Messiah Reagans 10.8%, without Ronnies ELEVEN Tax Increases? By deporting a record # of illegals? By bringing home the Troops IMMEDIATLY after Bush's promise to keep them there through 2011 was met? By REGULATING Bush's Wall Street Bal Out and returning a PROFIT? By saving the Auto Industry? By getting Bin Laden? By forcing out Gadhafi? By drastically slowing down the 2.4 million US Manufacturing jobs that were lost to China from 2001 to 2008?
For context bob which you lack. Reagans unemployment was inherited from his predecesor. I mean it is W's fault now so its only far that Carter was to blame then. Oh wait it was both sides fault naw thats to deep for your dense head. Doubling the DOW has been done by many presidents whats harder is doubling it and increasing the welfare of more than rich. He has done what I have come to expect. That is to pander to the mega corporations as any good president should. But hey keep living in your delusion world where one side is really better lol. When 80% believe one side is better we all lose. Well except for the rich who are making it seem that way for their gain.
Hope?, more like "Hoax". Hitler fooled the youth too. Time to clean house.
Really? Comparing Obama to Hitler? Hitler ordered the execution of 6 million people. What is wrong with you?
Godwin's law, sometimes it doesn't take very long at all...
the intensity of the intelligence vacuum is directly proportional to the decrease in time it takes to reach Hitler.
Why do right-wingers always compare Hitler to Obama? Hitler was an authoritarian fascist. Fascism is a right-wing phenomenon, for the most part. It is much easier to compare someone like Romney, Perry, or Gingrich to Hitler than Obama based on their social policies. By the way, Hitler's "National Socialism" has nothing to do with what you think Socialism is. There is a lot more meaning beyond the words. Also, stop calling Obama a socialist. As a socialist, I am offended. Obama is a lover of capitalism, I don't want him on my team. He, and the rest of the Democratic party, are only slightly more to the left of the GOP in economics, but they would still be considered right-wing economically.
"we are socialists, we are enemies of today's economic system for the exploitation of the weak, with its unfair salaries..., and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
- Adolf Hitler, speech to nationalsozialismus (nazi) rally, may 1 1927
Both are Socialist meglomaniacs that want to rule the world. The only difference is that Hitler had a birth certificate.
Flatsguide-
You sound like another pathetic reactionary.
@thedude
You're quoting Hitler 1927? You're quoting a statement from Hitler before he was in power? Look dude, go back to school and learn your history. Hitler adopted Mussolini's fascism once he was in power. He used socialism to get people to ride his ride.
I hope this clear things up for you:
Fascism = "all for the state"
Nazism = "all for the race"
Hitler wanted to attract people who would have otherwise voted socialist by providing job programs, etc. But in terms of political philosophy Hitler was clearly right wing
since when did an attempted extermination of a race of people ever come remotely close to failed financial campaign promises regarding student debt? please elaborate because i am dying to know.
Hitler was a conservative.
Yep you are correct good thing that poli sci major is paying off... or was it philosophy... Glad you could chime in to remind all of us rational people and bring us back to the obvious.
My 5 year old has a more informed opinion, and he's a freaken Maoist!
"Youth" have no patience and were expecting to wake up on January 21st to a brave new utopian world where the rainbow colored unicorns sh4t cheeseburgers.
Obama scammed his base supporters in favor of Goldman Sachs. Try America Elects as the only hope of electing an honest person.
Just graduated in May, product design. All the people in my class are working at good jobs now. Learn a skill, learn to make something, learn to fix something. I have friends with psychology degrees working in carpentry. Its sad. Blame yourself for going into a over-saturated field.
While I think you are right, I don't think it is necessary to do something you don't like. Honestly, if you look at the statistics, most college students don't work in a field that relates to well to their degree. What matters IS the degree! So, major is something academic and demonstrates that you know how to critically think! Yet, I'm not sure businesses want you to critical think to much – they like stupid puppets who don't question their subordinate too much.
the worth of a college degree is so overblown it is ridiculous. All it proves is that u could complete college. In real-world terms, it means absolutely nothing. One of the biggest forms of discrimination of all times! If businesses hired smart people, instead of only college grads, America may go back to our once proud status.
I agree... People need to learn to survive
HELLO LADY......Wake Up Call to all within the Fantasy Island called the DC Beltway. Most people that I know (young and old) have given up on the entire political process and both major parties.
The youth have given up on Obama, but they aren't looking for another candidate. Historically, youth voters have the lowest turn-out rate. While last year was an exception, it will be going back to normal in 2012. The majority of college dreams are aware of the dreadful implications of the GOP candidates economic plans, but Obama isn't much better. He made promises and didn't keep them.
Absolutely without question.
For me it's neither an Left or a Right thing. I'm completely disenfranchised with both of sides. As the past 2o years have shown the only thing either side is out for is screwing over the middle class.
Tax breaks for the super rich.
Obamacare.
Free trade agreements that makse it easy for US corporation manufacturing jobs to be moved to our chief economic rival (China).
Both sides sicken me to death.
yeah,must be like sucking s#** through a crazy straw.and so is reading some of these comments from the fan clubs of the demlicans and republicrats.it's real hard and leaves a bad taste at the end.
Not the same eric but is is funny to watch... I even like to troll from time to time cause politics is a sure fire way to get a reply from biased morons.
It is so sad that the main stream media need to make up stories in order to make the republican party legit. You do not have to worry about President Obama but you do need to focus on the 12 so-call front runners the republican party has had in the last two months alone. Anyone with a brain know that President Obama will get another term so deal with it.
the media creation continues.
The question should be, "is he advocating for things that address the needs of the youth?" The answer is yes. The problem is, he doesn't make these things happen, it's congress. A congress that is now comprised of enough of his sworn enemies that nothing he even suggests that can actually help, gets passed. If the young people want to blame someone, they should blame themselves for not making sure that this president had the congress he needed to make all his "hope / change" rhetoric a reality during the mid-terms.
He had control for his first 2 years and told the repubs its our turn now. So he does the same thing they did to him. What a CHANGE.
not having a congress that works with him is no excuse, Obama had a supermajority in congress for the begining of his term and yet no one brought ups a simple term for those tax breaks for the rich, REPEAL THE TAX BREAK, with a supermajority that could have been his first order of business, that would have brought in tax revenue to pay for the wars or help the students or help the debt, instead he spent all his time whining and crying to the general public about how Obamacare was in danger of not passing because there was a republican out there somewhere in the world, with a supermajority he could have done anything, somehow the republicans do not have a problem of passing their aggendas but the democrats do.
Obamacare was a travesty with them trying to pass it, "you can't see whats in it till you pass it", and when you pass it you find out there is no basic consumer protection whatsoever, a simple line such as insurance companies can not raise premiums more than cost of living percentage or something.
as far as taxes, he failed on that, in the begining of his term he should have gathered all his democrats and REPEAL BUSH ERA TAX CUTS, but noooooo, because he gets covered by those tax cuts.
did he end any wars? negative to that, infact, he started another war in Lybia supporting terrorists in their attempt to overthrow a legitimate government, and yes, the freedom fighters in Lybia are current standing members of organizations that western governments have labeled as terrorist organizations, simply for oil, and you can not even argue that we had no real major role in it because we let NATO take the lead, WE ARE NATO, and it was US aircraft performing airstrikes, next is Syria and Iran and Yemen and others.
as for Jon the college grad who is in debt for 150K, i bet you voted for Obama, good for you, how is that hope and change working out for you? i Hope you have some CHANGE in your pocket
Obama made promises w/o knowing how to fulfill them. Fact 1, promise to close Gitmo: Unfullfilled. Despite Executive Order 13492 signed January 22, 2009 by Obama, Gitmo remains open today. Fact 2, promise to release Abu Ghraib photos: Unfullfilled. He later said "Releasing the photos could have a "chilling effect" on further investigations...." Fact 3, candidate Obama boasted his "working across the aisle skills" which proved to be non-existent during debt ceiling and (not so) super committee negotiations. The bottom line is how many promises of CHANGE made realized? Don't you get the feelings Obama promises of CHANGE only to get votes without any ideas how to fulfill the promises? Obama fooled voters in 2008 to vote for him; shame on him, but if you let him fool you AGAIN this time, SHAME on YOU!!!!!
Show me a better candidate and I'll definitely consider them.
Clinton, Romney, Gingrich, Palin, any Governor, almost any American citzen that has ever really done any work in life.
Based on the following misplaced modifier, it may be t-shirts who have given up on President Obama. "t-shirts are worn out from too many days sitting on the couch unemployed" Those t-shirts need to stop crying and work harder! Stupid, lazy t-shirts.
Given up on Obama? Not if they want government jobs.
No – we have not. And most 18-24 year old kids don't know what the f c u k they are talking about. Feeble minded and easily swayed. Not all of them..but most.
Colleges and Universities charging students $50,000 a year is the source of student loan debt. The message isn't to run up student loan debt and not worry about it – just claim bankruptcy after you finish, isn't the answer. Why should the taxpayers have to pay more money to keep bailing everyone out? Forget the votes and do what's right. The report just came out that an immigrant comes into this country every 47 seconds. Jobs can't keep up with the increase in illegal immigration. Hire more national guard to protect our borders and then the students can get their student loan forgiveness.
The GOP mantra: Turn all the Old, Sick, Non-white, Non-christian, Unemployed, and Gay people into slaves. Then whip them until they are Young, Healthy, White, Christian, Employed, and Straight. Or until they are dead. Then turn them into Soylent Green to feed the military.
Jeez Louise! You make that sound like a bad thing!
So, do you believe that the greed of the masses (socialism) is better than the greed of the few (capitalism)? Greed is greed. Just because the poor and middle classes envy the rich, does not mean they have a right to take what they have. This of, of course, does not excuse the excesses of the wealthy or their greed.
Why doesn't CNN show a more representative photo of Obama (on golf course in Hawaii; with half a head of gray hair), than this old PR photo? Oh yeah, the MSM are doing their best to buff up their man, since his record stinks so bad.
Same time: Bush 180 days vaction at his ranch versus Obama's 68 days.
a presidential vacation away from the White House is not the same as a vacation for the average person. The president is still in contact with his advisers and on call for any emergency
Dave do you have facts to backup your claim. Until you post a link that is non-biased I cannot take your claim as real.
Well, he lost the social liberal vote. He thinks gays are good enough for canon fodder, but not for equality. He engages in unilateral military action. He nominates a drug war hawk to head the DEA and sends federal actors to crack down on medical marijuana dispensaries. He's not opposed to sending more jobs overseas via free trade agreements. His office gave BP the green light for the horizon oil well disaster. He's done nothing to bring the bankers who created the economic mess to justice or even give them a hard incentive not to do it again. If Obama is going to be that much of a neocon, why not just elect a Republican, at least we'll get to keep our guns instead of having that creepy Eric Holder wringing his hands waiting for an excuse to grab them.
Well, like Obama like never like sent me a like a government check or nuthin for like votin for him like the dems like promised so now I'm like totally disgusted so I'm gonna like smoke a big doobie and like get like totally wasted and then like hop on my skateboard and like cruize down to the OWS rally.
Probably didn't get your check because they went to all the red states – red states taking up more than 50% of the federal welfare and unemployment budget.
thanks
I voted for Obama and his time in office has convinced me even further that I made the right choice. The Republicans continue to show how little they care about the regular person by blocking anything that Obama is trying to get done. We need to get more Republicans OUT of office so the middle class can survive instead of falling into the welfare lines.
I am a REPUBLICAN always have been. I am so disgusted with my party this year I will support Obama.
having your name on a piece of paper that says republican does not make you one. go join the kool-aide party.
Editor's Note: Brad Chase is a partner with Capitol Media Partners, a Los Angeles-based communications and public affairs consultancy.
"Capitol Media Partners offers clients facing critical public policy challenges expert advice and supervision of those issues. "
So who paid chase to write this article and what exactly is their agenda?
If the youth don't vote for Obama they certainly won't vote for any republican. Republicans are NEVER going to forgive debt, or do anything for unemployed youths besides cut taxes on mythical job creators, it's just not in them to do it.
easy solution going forward. do not pay professors. hold classes in empty athletic fields. costs will drop dramatically
Yeah, so will colleges altogether. Being a professor requires a Ph. D. for most areas of curriculum. Professors are already the most under paid doctorate holders in this country – they make less than public school teachers, and public school teachers are the most under paid masters degree holders in this country.
You want to take their pay away altogether? Say goodbye to all professors, they'll find jobs else where.
ialsoagree: THat is utter bullsh!t. THE average salary for a college professor is over $80,000 which is way above hat the average teacher makes, not to mention that teachers teach five or six classes a day, while professors may teach as few as one per semester in many universities. In order to save many, many universities have gone to using adjuncts to stem the cost of instruction. The adjuncts teach far more classes and make much less.
And Obama will? He is going to say anything to get re-elected. Then he will continue business as usual.
The young have figured out that the president is only good at giving pretty speeches and taking extended golf vacations.
What have republicans offers that's better?
Great! Obama gets to buy votes using the taxpayer's money.
Poor Obama – he's beginning to make Jimmy Carter look competent and Richard Nixon look honest.
And Bush look like American "waste" (that you voted for), and wouldl vote again if you would have a chance, that makes you look like a "dumb" dude.
Angel, you should come back when you can compose a comprehensible sentenance.
And that is tuff to do!!!
Two words to the question: Obama 2012!
young people should unionize. the government should pay their dues. then the union reps can talk about how unFAIR things are for them and politicians will find a way to give them stuff to buy their votes. welcome to chicago politics.
Buck Ofama!
Fine example of limited intelligence. Wonderful people like this would allow the GOP to get in control again so they can finish the job that GWB started.
Hmm, I could be wrong but when President Obama got elected I thought the Democrats controlled both the House and Sentate his first two years? So how is congress preventing him from creating jobs?
It's called a filibuster. Some of the "democrats" in the senate and house during Obama's first term were Republicans who had changed parties during their run because they were unlikely to win the republican nomination again. Instead, they ran as Democrats. Other democrats were actually quite conservative, and would not have blocked a republican filibuster attempt.
So while the democrats, on paper, had a super majority, republican filibusters were still very successful. In fact, republicans succeeded in getting the Bush tax cut extension attached to Obama's health care bill using a filibuster threat. That's the only reason the Bush tax cuts were extended.
We don't understand why anybody would see anything good come from this loser from the start given his shady past. The past three years have proven how much of a failure to our country he has been.Loser obama and his corrupt administration need to be removed before he can follow through with his socialist ,corrupt agenda and destroy our country completly
What failure? Unemployment dropping faster than it has since Clinton was in office? The stock market being hire than it was in 2008 when Bush was leaving office?
If that's failure, I'll take another big helping of failure please!
The trolls have been screaming, "worst president ever!" since before he even took office. Wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of their racist delusions.
Wow, was wondering when the race card was going to come out on this discussion.
Good article, I often wondered where that excellent pre-election organization went to. Obama could have done better on these points in the article and in opinion better support for those losing their homes. But in my book he's still accomplished many things and a better alternative than the GOP. I mean look, he recently had to shame the GOP into preserving the middle class tax break, while in the past 3 years the GOP has had their foot on Obama's throat of tax breaks for the weathiyest 1%. Obama wanted to extend unemployment...GOP say not without a taxbreak for the 1%, etc, etc. With all the turmoil the GOP's only goal has been make Obama a 1 termer, disgraceful. Gotta say my vote is not in the bag for Obama, I feel strongly about Med MJ and tired of feeling like a criminal.
which news org do you plagiarize from? msnbcnn or the huffy post?
obama's disgrace of a presidency is over and the faster he is replaced the better chance america has of avoiding a major collapse of its economy.......
or limiting the damage already done
I haven't given up on Obama. I've just given up on any chance that the republicans will ever give him a chance to get anything done, especially if it would benefit the middle class or reduce unemployment. This guy not only saved GM and Chrysler, but in doing so he stopped the free-fall that the republicans under Bush left our economy in. He also got us out of the senseless, needless, pointless and super expensive war in Iraq, and is starting to wind down in Afganistan as well. Bush was good at starting wars that cost us thousands of service people's lives, and ruined tens of thousands more with lost limbs, traumatic brain injuries, and PTSD. That's an under-appreciated economic burden that will be with us for a generation or more. Just imagine what it would be like if the Repubs still had the Presidency. Oh they'd be getting stuff done all right, it's just that everything they'd get done would be for the super rich and they'd make the rest of us pay for it. Listen, Obama is a good man with good intentions who is doing the best he can to drag this country out of the Flintstone era and into the Jetson's era. If we don't start catching up with the rest of the world now, we will continue to see our economy, education, influence and status diminish to the point of no return. If this country gets turned back over to the republicans again in 2012, kiss your future goodbye, cause it's over.
Obama had a congressional SUPERMAJORITY in both houses his first 2 years. Instead of fixing the economy and bringing us jobs, he focused on a healthcare bill that will make (and has) made the economy WORSE. Stop blaming the rebublicans, they've only controlled 1/3 of power, and have only done so for the last 11 months. Wake up!
Supermajority or not, Repubs still found ways to thwart Obama's well intentioned best efforts that would have moved us in the right direction. Remember the "nuclear option"? Repubs are bad news and they are bullys who lie with a straight face to the American public. There is no bottom that they won't sink below in order to get their way. Vote Republican at your own peril.
Please move back to North Korea where Cults of Personalities are all the rage. My god you are such a political tool.
Saw you bashing on good old Fox earlier too. How predictable. Let me ask you something oh wise man....When ABC,CBS,PBS,NBC,HLN,CNN,MSNBC,the Daily Show, the Colbert Report, SNL (most of the time) and pretty much every late night talk show and Hollywood elite are regurgitating the same thing their political masters on the left say and at the same time they all attack the one dissident voice among them(that's right, FOX NEWS).....WHY DO YOU NOT SEE THAT AS A TAD BIT FASCISTIC ???
Your talking about the lone dissident voice that has a history of showing Obama talking while posting "Osama" as his name beneath his picture, right? Give me a break. If you can't see it, I can't help you.
I never believed in Obama to begin with. I'm an anarcho-communist. His views are the complete opposite of mine. I believe in a better Earth. He believes in exploiting the many for the benefit of the few, including obviously himself. He is a bourgeois. He is certainly no friend of mine.
"I believe in a better Earth." Do you have ANY idea how juvenile that is?
Obama has lost the youth vote if they have wised up any since 2008. Voting for the "cool" candidate without regard to the issues is naive at best.
As a "young" voter (well, almost), please feel free to show me a better candidate when it comes to issues, I'm still looking and haven't found one.
This young person is still a solid supporter of our president and especially so after watching the 3-ring circus that has been the GOP/Teabagger candidates playing checkers jumping over each other as the 'new' lead in the polls...only to open their mouths and fall back at the bottom of polls again. Bunch of Bozos that not even their own party can support. the reason Obama hasn't performed up to everyone's expectations is that very same GOP blocking every move he's try to make. Disgusting....every member of congress should be booted out.
Obama didn't do anything he campaigned on, I will not be voting for him again this election. My vote will go to Ron Paul.
He orders arrests on the sick for use of medical marijuana when he campaigned he wouldn't, I guess synthetic heroin is better because it comes in pill form. Kept guitmo open, continued war waging(Only reason we left Iraq is they would agree not to persecute american soldiers), resigning the Patriot Act, NDAA, and now SOPA.
The last straw is the support for NDAA and SOPA. Signing the NDAA is a sad day in American history the ability to detain and inprision Americans with no trial just sickens me(See Nazi Gestapo act )
Thank you for the hope and change, all I received was less civil liberties.
The media might not like Ron Paul but the youth of the nation do.
I certainly don't support Ron Paul. He wants to fire 200,000 public workers as part of his "job creation plan." He'll use the extra funding to cut corporate taxes, elminate capital gains tax, and deregulate corporations so they don't have to properly clean up and dispose of hazardous waste, and can freely pump carbondioxide and other green house gases into the atmosphere.
ialsoagree. You are wrong on many if not all your points.
Moving 200,000 jobs from the public to private sector would be a huge boost to the economy & also would lower the tax/debt burden & return that capital to the productive sector of the economy.
His reduction of corporate taxes would be another huge boost & would be included with a policy that eliminates ALL corporate subsidies. Currently when a corporation makes money overseas they have to pay a huge tax (The US has the highest tax in the world here!) if they want to bring their capital back into the US & invest it at home. By eliminating this tax, a company that makes money overseas can repatriate that money to the US & invest it here!
He also would not tolerate pollution & private property rights are actually stronger at regulating pollution than a bought out EPA is. Under the EPA there is an allowance of pollution that is allowed to be output before you reach the threshhold of applicable fines. The EPA commonly only checks on a specific plant every 5 years & many companies feel it is cheaper to pay the fines & pollute than it is to stop pollution.
Under private property law, where government protected levels of minimum pollution are nonexistant, a company has NO RIGHT to pollute your property (land, air, water) at all. Any pollution detected on anyones private property would be grounds for sueing & the cash amounts awarded to the plaintiff's would EXCEED the fines that would have imposed by the EPA. Private property law would be a better regulator & a much more efficient deterent toward pollution.
I bet you even think that Al Gore's carbon credit system is the course to be endorsed. That course doesn't eliminate pollution but instead sells the right to pollute to the highest bidder, which in turn makes pollution a priviledge of the wealthiest corporations.
Ha ha, every time I visit my daughter at college, I drive past "Solyndra" - a sizeable campus of buildings right on Highway 880 near UC Berkeley with a HUGE sign trumpeting their wonderfulness. Emblematic of an administration that has fooled a lot of people. How many youngsters who voted for Obama know that his campaign manager, David Axelrod, made a career as a spokesman for the nuclear industry. Illinios (Obama's home state) has the highest density of nuclear power plants, per square mile, of any state in the nation. Now does that shed any light on the roaring SILENCE we are hearing from our government about the Fukushima melt-down (yes, the blob of nuclear materials have left their steel containment vessels and are eating through the cement underlyment as we speak). This administration will do anything to stay in power and to serve its own financial interests. Just wait, it's about to spin up again and I'm sure Axelrod has a bulging "racism" dosier on every republican hopeful.
Firstly, Solyndra was hugely supported by both sides of the isle. In fact, Bush rushed to get funding for Solyndra passed by Congress in 2008 in fear that Obama wouldn't sign the bill. Ignorance must be bliss, huh?
Secondly, nuclear material is hot, cool story. Did you know that the nuclear material from the Chernobyl melt down is still "eating through the cement underlyment as we speak?
What do you think is worse, the radiation exposure you've recieved from nuclear power planets over your entire lifespan, or the excess green house gasses you've been breathing in from your local oil burning power plant?
Yeah, sure, when a nuclear power plant gets destroyed (all of the 4 times it's happened in history) it's a huge deal. But lets all ignore the fact that oil and coal power plants do far MORE damage to the environment just through their regular day-to-day operation.
Firstly, why do some Obama defenders compare him with George Bush in an attempt to vindicate this actions? Most of us despised George Bush, so ... what does that say about Obama? Secondly, there is no evidence that greenhouse gasses have a worse effect on health or the environment than nuclear power plants. Chernobyl made a sizeable chunk of land uninhabitable for the next 40,000 years, and Fukushima is on track to beat that record. Thirdly, whatever the relative merits and risks of nuclear-versus-carbonbased power, the Obama administration's SILENCE on nuclear risk is criminal.
Firstly, I didn't compare Obama and Bush, I said that Solyndra was heavily supported by both parties, and your putting the blame on Obama is ignorant. I take it by your lack of a rebuttal you agree?
Secondly, Obama's "silence" is not news worthy. We've had nuclear power plants in this country for 40 years. Every President in that time has been virtually "silent" on the "risks" – mean while the US has not had a single serious injury in the general public from nuclear power plants. Why should anyone be talking about the risks, and why would you blame Obama (of all the presidents we've had in the past 40 years) for also being silent, like everyone else has been for 4 decades over a non-issue?
As to the health effects:
"The point is that for each person killed by nuclear power generation, 4,000 die from coal. This is adjusted for how much power is produced by each method of power generation."
I can't post a link, so google "Death Rate from Nuclear Power Vs Coal" and it will be the first result – it includes sources for the data.
Please go learn!
ialsoagree, you are playing word games when you say "no americans" have died from nuclear power plant radiation exposure. In fact, plenty of non-americans have died from nuclear power plant accidents. And plenty of americans have died, and are still dying, from exposure to radiation during the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s when nuclear weapons and power were being developed. Have you ever heard of "virgin steel"? Hey you might learn something from googling that phrase. You might also learn something by googling "jimmy carter" and "nuclear" and "the economist". In that article you will find out how seriously one former president took the issue.
Firstly, I didn't say no Americans have died, Americans have died, on American soil, in American power plants, from nuclear power risks. I said that there have been no major injuries (including deaths) of Americans due to nuclear power – but I should clarify, that's of nuclear power in the US. The reason people in "other countries" aren't relevant is because other countries don't have the nuclear safety standards of the US.
Secondly, plenty of people have died in the development of many forms of medical treatment, should we abandon those medical treatments because they use to – before they were fully understood – cause injuries and death? No, we should recognize that while things were in development, they cause death.
Thirdly, I've already showed you that, DESPITE all the accidents from nuclear power, and NOT including the environmental impact of coal/oil, coal and oil are still up to 4 THOUSAND times more dangerous than nuclear power. And yet here you are, railing on about 1 death, and ignoring 4,000. It's the old addage, "1 death is a trajedy, 100 is a statistic." Oil and coal are SO much worse than nuclear power that people have given up complaining about it. You're busying yourself over a paper cut while your patient's heart has stopped.
OK, first point of your is invalid.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/obama-fundraiser-pushed-solyndra-deal-inside/story?id=14691618
Screw Obama, he got my vote in 2008 and look what he did with it? NOTHING.
Ron Paul 2012!
Ron Paul 2012, Rand Paul '16, '20
Wow, what a waste of reporting. American youth age 18-29 aren't supporting BHO because they feel they got duped the first time around. BHO successfully portrayed himself as the "non-politician." In reality, however, he has engaged in the exact same cronyism and pandering that have become the hallmark of modern politicians. Now people see BHO for what he truly is: a lying politician. To make matters worse for him, now he has an actual track record that is dismal at best. Yes, "hope and change" are gone: things are worse now than 3 years ago. So get ready for another empty campaign on his part stessing "fairness" and "paying your fair share." Translation: class envy and warfare.
This is exactly how Careter won the Presidency in the 70's. He went after the youth. I was one of the fools that voted for him and I quickly realized he was not what he said.
That 41% of Americans approve of Obama is mind blowing. The re-election of this president will be the crushing blow to America as we know it and will send us on a pathway to bancruptcy that will make Europe look fiscally sound. The doubling of the budget from Bush's unmitigated 8 year disaster – and this one only needed 3. Give him another 4 and we'll be doomed.
So many people see a bail-out on student loans as not even worth discussing because young people have to learn the responsibility to take care of their own debt and obligations. "Why should my tax dollars help them when I had to pay off every dollar of my student loans when I had them?" Certainly a compelling argument for high school civics but we must not forget two crucial facts here: 1) Tuition rises at a much faster rate than inflation, meaning current college grads have a much greater imbalance between their debt and their salaries than ever before; and 2) Social Security, we all pay into it and currently practically every american gets assistance from it when they turn 65. But everyone knows Social Security is unsustainable in the long-term. I'm 27 and social security will not be around by the time I'm 65. One could easily make the argument that with social security, they are getting to use the tax dollars from everyone to financially assist one particular age-group. That situation will only get worse as more baby-boomers pass that 65 mark (there's more of them and they will live longer than ever) retire, and the still working younger people who will likely never get to benefit from social security will have that part of their paycheck deduction increased. I'm not suggesting we get rid of social security, but we have to realize that government assistance with current student loan debts is both uniquely worse than ever before and that the argument from many that young people should just have to 'deal with it somehow' is unfounded, we could just as easily have said the same about retirement and said that no retirement assistance will be available after 65. We didn't, and given the drop in recent retirement plan values its probably a good thing we didn't, but we have to be mindful that such logic doesn't only apply to them.
While I tend to agree with your overall assesment, your point 2 is blatently wrong.
At current rates, Social Security is solvent through 2037 – that, by the way, means not decreasing payouts, and not increasing revenue, and NOT paying back the 1.5 TRILLION dollars that has been borrowed from SS and put toward the general budget.
Not only is socialy security solvent in the long-term, it's the biggest cash cow the federal government has. Since the year SS was started it has generated surplus revenue (more money coming in then going out), that includes 2011 with the payroll tax cut. In fact, so much extra revenue is generated by social security, democrats and republicans alike borrow money from SS to meet the needs of the general budget on a regular basis.
So much money has been borrowed from SS, in fact, that SS is actually backing more of the US debt then all of China (1.5 trillion for SS, 1.2 trillion for China). To say that SS is not solvent for the long term displays a MASSIVE lack of ignorance. In fact, the fed can't afford NOT to continue SS, because it generates so much money for the federal budget. What needs to happen is the 1.5 trillion returned to SS, no more money removed from SS for the general budget, SS benefits returned to more generous payouts, and no one will ever have to talk about SS reform again.
Obama has done a great job of golfing and lounging around on the public's dime for four years now – we need REAL CHANGE.
He DID get things done between 2008 and 2010 (at which time the teaparty elected a Republican majority). Don't believe me, check out http://www.whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.com and look at the links on each one of those accomplishments and then look at the date. All those accomplishments where done PRIOR to the mid-term elections of 2010. The Republicans essentially shut him down in 2010 and the country has been suffering ever since. However, you hillbillies go ahead and elect your candidate with the perfect hair and magic underwear and everything should work out fine.
oh yeah he sure did! instead of national healthcare, we have MANDATORY INSURANCE – what HOPE! what CHANGE!
Go to hell with your lies – barry is a slacking, lazy POS who had SUPERMAJORITIES in both houses and did what? MANDATORY HEALTH INSURANCE.
You're an idiot too Susina. To say that either party has not made effort to keep the other part from getting what they want is completely ignorant. Both parties are guilty of this. This isn't a problem of one party or another, it's a problem of political corruption and politicians caring more about their standing than fixing what needs to be fixed. Again, BOTH parties are at fault here.
Very intelligent discourse. Now get back in your trailer.
What politician actually gives a flying eff about any of us? when it comes down to it, they want to keep their job, a position of power, above a 18-29 year old having your 15-100K/year job. Especially when no matter what happens, this generation is going to find something to whine and cry about. The idea of working hard to get where you want has vanished. Young people think because they went to college they're OWED jobs and don't put in the work or effort to get a **** job and just sit on the couch. This doesn't help anything. And what have they done to deserve a bailout on their loans? NOTHING. And are they doing anything to prove they're worth it? NO. At least bailing out companies has kept them from going bankrupt and putting us in a worse off position. I'm pretty liberal when it comes down to it, but I do not support laziness. Whether you're conservative or liberal, if you're a lazy piece of ****, you don't deserve ****.
Nice post
Just exactly what the older generation of my day had to say about us.
It was much easier in my generation. One thing that would help would lower the retirement age to free up jobs for young people.
Except no one wants to retire because they lost 30-50% of their 401Ks in 2008.
Obama is a failure. Poverty up! Unemployment up! Energy dependence up! Energy costs up! Washington corruption up! Drug gang activity up! Slaughter of Mexican by drug cartels who feed US Liberal drug users up! US debt up! Viability of US fiscal system down! Obama will go down as the most incompetent President in world history.
im not sure what rock you live under, but unemployment has been going down each quarter since obama has taken office...
Educate yourself! You are wrong, it was just at over 9.1%!!!!
because after so much time you no longer qualify as "unemployed". Graduating students don't qualify either. It's a terrible stat. You need to look at hiring vs. layoffs. I don't know where I can find this stat, but I can guess it's not as friendly.
With this group of Republican candidates... The youth will quickly come back to their senses and realize Obama is the only sane choice.
I don't understand this. Obama has done so much for youth and minorities
your right...
You wrong.
If it walks like a Puppet, Talks like a puppet, He Must be a puppet. Sorry Obama you'll have to use your NDAA powers to force votes this time around.
And just who else should they be excited about. All the GOP except Paul are promising a re-run of the Bush era of needless wars, joblessness, and a playing field tilted toward the rich with trickle down economics that never seem to trickle down.
Just the fact that you get "excited" over Obama is proof that you have obviously fell for the propaganda and probably believe everything your TV says is Factual. Get back in line fellow slave.
It has more to do with legalizing cannabis than anything else. Why do you think Ron Paul is so popular with young people. Half of Americans want Cannabis legal now.
Also, when Obama laughed at the question of legalization at his online town hall he hurt himself more than he'll ever know.
Maybe someday we'll have a president that cares about the people and isn't owned by corporations and the banking cartel but until then it doesn't matter which idiot party you represent. They are both corrupt and horrible.
In America we want everything now. No time to wait, the mess the government was in before Obama was by no means a quick fix, change takes time, I have not given up on the hope and change that Obama campaigned on, if you look at the facts he has changed many things for the better, and is working to continue the change. America still has the ability to be the best, we all just have to go out there and prove it, and it is not one persons fault that things have gotten bad. Just like as things change for the better it will not be one person changing things but every single person out there working to make it better.
While student loans are part of the problem the housing market is even more of an issue. How about something similar to what you are proposing except for underwater mortgages. If we are for erasing/eliminating debts, it might serve the country and yes the president if he pushed for something like this.
The banks get bailed out but I didn't see any tricle down-affect to my 400% LTV
It is interesting that CNN blocks all my messages where I have words like ********** and use all the programs that are against the US people. Talking about democracy and free speach.
Hi, welcome to a privately hosted discussion forum where the rules of free speech don't apply because the space is privately owned and operated.
*speech
I have given up on him, where are the jobs? where is my free healthcare?
Obama just simple lair. Bush debt unpatriotic and wrong Obama said. What he is done.? Much more. USA don't have president for 3 years. Clown in W.H.
hows that hope and change working for you, not to good, told you so, we knew obama was a joke in the begining.
The only hope and change I want is a new president!
It's amazing because if you'd take of the anti-obama glasses, you'd see there are plenty of tangible issues that he needs to answer for. Instead the dialogue revolves around hitler, socialism, removal of the 2nd amendment and all sorts of other nonsense that isn't grounded in reality. The GOP/TP made it visible that they have no new ideas, no compassion and no leg to stand on when it comes to moving the nation forward.
Go to politifact to see the promises made/kept. He is working with an entire congress of pledge signers who have produced zero jobs since november. Obama is at least trying, offering, suggesting things. Not really in my youth anymore – but those that are young now have the most available access to info ever, and you'd have to be blind to not know what's really happened since 2008.
Still a huge Obama fan. No one – not McCann or anyone else could have done better in the last 4-years. The problems Obama inherited cannot be fixed in a single 4-year term. He's doing a great job!
yes the youth has given up on Obama! We're still in a war that is doing nothing for America but killing the young and feeding the greed of the old. More and more states are becoming welfare states. He wants to do nothing for our borders. debt is on the rise because private companies are only after profit, and he's letting this happen. Where are these job's he promised, I've only seen the government get bigger within itself. My point of view, he is only taking us down the path to martial law. I can't help but think that we our heading for another revolution.
I've given up on today's youth.
We arrive in rusty 1964 motorhomes.
We bring our bibles and loaded assault weapons.
We wear ridiculous clothing and have teabags dangling from our earlobes.
We carry misspelled racist signs as we stomp all over the White House lawn.
We believe the earth is only 6,000 years old and that early man walked with the dinosaurs.
We love the baby jesus the most but we love to boink our cousins even more.
We believe nascar is a real sport and that Dale Earnhardt was a great athlete.
We are Sarah Palin's real Americans.
We are the birthers and the baggers.
We are the conservative christians and the evangelicals.
We are republicans. We are morons. We are proud.
Obama is just like a Ford Pinto. It had terrible performance and reliability, yet people still bought it because they kinda liked the way it looked.
At least it's American.
Well Obama's a pinto with a Mexican Engine. Very UnAmerican.
I'll bet, if some sociologists were interested in gathering the data, they'd find also that a much greater percentage in this same age group don't want jobs.
Mitt Romney is my choice. I wanted him in 2008, and will support him again. Why? Because I believe he is the most pragmatic candidate out there. He understands how the economy works. Fiscally, he is conservative, but socially he is a moderate. I do not believe hge would dismantle the social programs in this country, but I do believe he would make them run better. I believe he would work towards setting the conditions for business to flourish again, which is what must happen to create jobs. Only successful businesses hire people, so if you want to create johbs, you have to create a climate for businesses to be successful. He gets that. Finally, I like him because he he is also moderate in his speaking an approach. He does not make wild promises or outlandish statements. You don't get buzzword sound bites from him (Hope and change, 9-9-9 plan, etc), because he knows the issues are more complex than that. He will be a solid, steady, calm leader who, of all the candidates, I believe has the best chance of ending gridlock in Washington. I ask all of you, is the current partisan climate getting the job done? If not, which one do you believe can fix it?
Romney is a dedicated globalist who thought nothing of outsourcing American jobs when he was in the private sector.
When he was in the Private Sector, his primary job was to take failing companies and make them profitable again. The fiscal and regulatory environment set by the government determines how businesses make decisions. Good businessmen to not make decision based on what is "good for the coutry", because that is not what they are paid to do. They are paid to keep the company running, and provide a return on investment to shareholders. If the best option to do that is keeping jobs in the US, they will do that. His experience in that area will allow him to promote legislation that creates a favorable climat in the US for businesses to invest and create jobs.
Bottom line – You can not have jobs without successful businesses. To be successful, businesses will make the decisions that benefit them most. To keep those jobs in the US, the Government has to make it attractive for businesses to do that. There is no other way to build the economy – period.
The way most Obama opponents here see things reminds me of experimental goggles that reverse vision - things that appear on the right appear on the left and vice versa. Republican supporters need to get rid of those goggles and see the world as it is!
"No free rides"??? If a person has $50,000 in student loan debt and only had to pay $30,000, then he/she paid for 60% of his/her education. The other 40% was a free ride. I paid mine, now you quit whining and pay yours.
The problem is not the student loan process, it's the exploding costs of higher education which is fed by federally guaranteed student loans and federal education grants. The colleges and universities charge more and more and more because our government will pay them more and more and more. Obama absolutely will not address this eruption of costs (which by the way dwarfs the rise in health care costs). Why won't he? Because the people on that gravy train - college professors and administrators - are some of his staunchest supporters. Obama is not about doing what's good for America by turning off the federal money tap. He's about getting the votes of his ideologues..damn what it does to this nation.
And that's the truth. Should be interesting when that bubble bursts...and it will, eventually.
This nation has had some great presidents and some mediocre presidents and some very bad presidents aka GWB. But I will not pass up on my chance to vote once again for the greatest president in US history and that is President Obama. I need not say more.
OBAMA HAVE MY VOTE 2012 I TRUST HIM MORE THAN I TRUST THE REPUBLICANS RUNNING FOR OFFICE ROMNEY IS A FLIP FLOPPER WHATEVER VOTERS WANT THAT IS WHAT HE WILL SAY WHO IS ROMNEY?, RON PAUL PARANOID/BIPOLAR/BOOGIE MAN, NEWT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU KISS A FROG ITS STILL A FROG AND THE SECOND MISS NEWT BETTER NOT GET SICK OR SHE WILL BE AN EX NEWT THAT SEEMS TO BE HIS PATTERN AND THE REST OF THE REPUBLICANS ALL I CAN SAY IS YUCK
The only candidate in the GOP field that I would vote for is Jon Huntsman - the one who consistently trails the pack. Republicans won't nominate him in spite of the fact that he is the most sensible and articulate candidate they have, and has the best chance of beating Obama.
I give up.
He lost me with his continuing of the wars, the increase in spending and borrowing, and reneging on the promises he made regarding social issues (drug war debacle in particular, raiding dispensaries, fast & furious, etc.) My support has gone to Ron Paul. Anyone else is and will be a disaster.
You think Ron Paul won't be a disaster. His idea of creating jobs is closing down 200,000 jobs, reducing corporate taxes and elmininating capital gains taxes, and reducing corporate regulations. That guy will sink this economy faster than a lead slab in the ocean.
Yeah that is the way I feel as well. I hear that a lot. Obama is just more of the same. Time to see what someone else can do.
No, actually I haven't given up on the President who killed Bin Laden, ended the war in Iraq, ended DADT, helped save our auto and banking industries, provided health care to millions of children and other citizens, made sure you can't be turned down for insurance just because you are already sick or have a pre-existing condition, and helped Libya overthrow its dictator without a full scale invasion. He isn't perfect, but I sure haven't given up on him when I look at our other options this election cycle. Who I have given up on is the Republican party that has opposed any and everything he has supported, even ideas that they had originally supported or that they themselves had come up with. Their first and seemingly only goal since he took office is to make Obama a one term president, and you, CNN, have been right there to help them. From this article to the one yesterday that said that basically nothing happened during 2011... and think of how many of the things I listed happened this year in addition to things like OWS.
They're still turning down people with pre-existing conditions and the state level is still exceptionally expensive pool-wise...$600-$1,000/mo on pre-existing for less than 30k a year in Missouri... but it's a step in the right direction. I was never under any delusions it would happen over night.
Sure he did some things, I will not say good things because all the "things he did" has to be paid for. He just passed the buck to our children. If you think that is right, then keep voting for him. As for the rest of us, we'll try someone different.
Growing up, everybody drilled the "go to college" mantra into my head. Well, life isn't always perfect and though I was accepted to CUNY, I instead wound up going to community college for a year until things really went down the tubes and I was forced to get a full time job to support myself. I lived in a friends basement for a couple months, but soon found an apartment and began living the standard early-20 something life. That was 3 years ago. Since then I've watched educational debt (something I would have had to take on quite a bit of had I gone to CUNY) skyrocket and seen friends struggling to pay it. Student loans are my fiancee's biggest source of debt and he got off relatively easy. I feel like I missed a bullet with the craziness that occurred as I exited high school that forced me to skip major college. Sure, i definitely want to go back to school as soon as I can, but it will almost certainly be a manageable dream. Sure, I'd love to go to FIDM, but for now I'd like to train and get work as a paramedic so I can at least make ok money and get health insurance.
As for Obama, I voted for him like every other dutiful kid and yup, huge letdown. But I shudder to think of what McCain would have been like. For now, I'm using all that capitol-H-hope Obama taught me to hope like hell that through some miracle I'll get the chance to vote for Huntsman. Short of that, it's Obama or nutty/sketchy republican of the week and thanks, but I'll stick with Obama over that. C'mon repubs, don't force me to do that.
Good post. I think this sums up how a lot of us feel. Especially the last part.
I am actively involved in the Obama campaign, so am admittedly biased. But I find this article curious & suspect its author (Mr. Chase) to be equally biased on the conservative side of the fence. In organizational meetings, face-to-face conversations & social media posts – mostly with people in the age group mentioned – I have seen no indication of a lack of enthusiasm or dedication. The campaign is funded by small donations from private individuals & fund raising efforts are going well. If the chaos & disarray displayed by the Repulican candidates is any indication, Obama may win in a landslide.
Brian,
Sorry to disappoint but I proudly voted Gore in my first election in 2000 and was Press Secretary on a Democratic Congressional campaign in 2005. No partisanship here. Don't go claiming bias until you have facts.
Brad Chase
And even after that you would rather give the country back to a wall streeter who had no shame in Bankrupting 4 companies and throwing thousands of America families into joblessness, while pocketing millions for himself by sending thousands more of our jobs to China... What America needs is less of people like Mitt Roomney and more of Barack Obama...
To save the country, reelect Obama and give democrats control of both Senate and Congress. GOP has been killing US for more than 12 years!
/facepalm
cool. GOP has gone from NO NO NO to /facepalm as the standard response in a discussion.
The only candidate on the Republican side who could even get the youth vote is Rep. Paul. Otherwise they will just stay home next year.
I have not given up on Obama. I will be voting for him next year because I feel that he is the best choice, and I couldn't care less about who get;s the nomination from the Republican Circus.
I feel that once we get rid of these obstructionist, partisan politicians, both Republican and Democrat, and get some people into Congress that are actually will to work with each other and figure out the problems that our nation is facing at the moment, Obama can do a lot of good.
Agreed.
I do not care how one group of people feel about Obama. I just want the public to be well informed this time when voting.
I would be nice wouldn't it? Call me skeptical, but I don't think it will happen.
Just to be clear ~ Obama took over a train wreck three years ago, and :
1) staved off the next worldwide great Depression
2) saved the financial industry from collapse, and made money for the government doing it
3) saved the US auto industry, and made the planet greener.
I shudder to think where we would be now if McCain/Palin had been running this circus for three years ! THINK, people!
"just 55.3 percent of Americans between 16 and 29 have jobs". Is this author a moron? 16-22 year olds should be in school, not working! Counting grad school ("what's that?" says the teabagger) you can extend that to 25 or 26. When more young people have jobs that indicates a problem. It shows they need to work to pay for school or have given up on school altogether.
First, you are assuming that everyone goes to college. The fact is, only about 1/2 of the jobs available require a 4 year degree. Many well paying jobs require either a shorter technical school, apprenticeship, or on the job training. However, we have been brainwashed into thinking that a college degree equals more money – Tell that to the social worker with the Masters Degree making 40K a year with 80K or more in student loan debt, while the Truck Driver pulls 50-60K with no student loans. Second, many young people work while they go to school. Those who don't are the exception, not the rule. If only 55% of this group is employed, that is a troubling statistic. Employment in this age group should be more like 70%.
Everyone I know who voted for obama now see the folly of their way, they are now going with the only rational and logical choice, Ron Paul.
Obama's follies
Killed Bin Laden, Saved American Auto Industry, Created the conservative version of the Health Care Plan, PREVENTED THE GREATEST DEPRESSION, And fought for the Middle class when republicans wanted to give more freebies to the super rich while cutting on Social Security and Repealing Medicare....
Yesterday there was a story about how Obama has the Latino vote 2 to 1 and today a story about how he has lost the young vote! I'm betting the assumption that us youth, I'm a 25 year old latino, will stay at home rather than vote is completely incorrect. I for one, who voted for Obama more as a vote against McCain and Palin, will vote for any GOP over Obama. I'm think many more will do the same.
Please do vote so we can have a president who will chase more of your clan back to Hispanicland
All obama had to do is help the middle-class and he would have a legion of loyal followers. But he didn't help, instead he declared war on the middle-class in order to help his rich friends. One and done obama....later.
The "youth" that have given up on Obama have done so because they don't feel like they got all the freebies they expected from Obama. Endless job opportunities, student loans being forgiven, etc., etc. Any group that thinks whomever they elect will give them everything they want is bound to be disappointed.
Presidents control nothing. Why is this SO HARD for people to understand? Mr. Obama did as he was told by the elites. As did Bush, as will future presidents.
"Have the youth given up on Obama?"
Only the sane ones.
The young are far too idealistic to vote Republican. Obama was able to win them (and minorities) over with his idealism, but has lost them because of the reality of the job markets. America's young, minorities, and liberals in general, will do their usual bit this election, that is, they will become apathetic, fail to vote and blame Republicans for everything.
Obama's goal is to change the USA into the USSA (Union of Socialist States of America). A vote for Obama is a vote for Big Brother. Please go read George Orwell's 1984 before you vote.
I believe Obama did the many new young voters a big favor. The fact that so many registered in the name of “false hope” has been a major wake-up call for this group of new voters. The two party system is a failure and that failure is only exacerbated by an incompetent president.
And yes, here it comes…Ron Paul is the only hope for correcting the problems this country has been suffering from for so long. Let these young voters recognize what really needs to be done to correct our country and get it on the road to real prosperity. Those who think that Paul is a nut cake will condemn our country to four more years of the same old garbage; be it Obama or someone from the GOP.
Ron Paul is no hope but only a disaster waiting to happen. His contrast to the other candidates is his only attraction as the others prove unworthy ... but his Libertarian philosophies, his advocating doing nothing about most everything and his aggressively pushing for "smaller government", while likely to reduce spending, taxes and the deficit, are totally irresponsible and would result in further exploitation by those with advantage, failure of government to meet responsibilities and literally the advancing of world crises. Not a good choice only an alternative bad choice.
Absolutely. Blacks voted for him because he was, well, BLACK. Guilty, self hating whites voted for him to show that they could vote for a black guy. He won because 2 groups of people had something to prove.
If Obama's smart,he'll give up on the youth.
Ya man, he can just continue covering up for the plutocrats and the Goldman Sachs crew in his office. I'm so excited our country is in good hands!!!!
The youth, as are all of us, are totally frustrated with the status of American politics and with the absence of any real representation for the majority (99%). However, voting still has to be considered our only (along with public demonstration) form of seeking fair representation. What has happened is that "the few" (1%) with their power, influence and money have been able to overtly and covertly aggressively con the people and manipulate public opinion leaving the politicians to cater to "the money" for support and to neglect the majority- Examples: the manipulation of the Evangelistic Christian, the Swift-boat propaganda, the Tea Party movement and the Republican / Tea Party constant stubborn blocking and arrogant faulting of all efforts while protecting the interests of "the few". If the people can reject the subterfuge and avoid being conned, duped and used, then they still have the power of the vote.
Maybe we should be careful of what we ask for this time. Neither party can undo this mess, it will take at least two decades to create a strong economy with at least 3 presidents. I have stopped paying my debt just survive not proud of that decision but I would rather eat than make the banks richer. Look at the world, every country has problems and the citizens have taken to streets now its here in the U.S. why? because we have learned to live beyond our means.The young should lead but with knowledge of history and not emotion,promises and idealism . If we all share the bad times should we all not share the good times? The division of have and have not is wider than it has ever been in my life time and it is growing beyond control. Remember most of us are still able to care for ourselves for now in 3 to 5 years homeless citizens may jump 20%. in short enjoy the good times the worse is yet to come
I know everyone wants their kids to go to college so they can have an edge on the job market. We are told over and over that if we have more graduates we will compete better on the world market. Now, most will go to college and yet we are still hiring people from overseas instead of Americans because industry keeps crying "we can't find enough qualified American people for this job". Students and colleges need to open their eyes and take harder more useful degrees instead of taking the easy way out. I'm spending my 401K to send my kids to college so they can be managers at a restaurant. Honest honorable work but a four year degree is not needed for those occupations. All these loans are ridicules!
Ron Paul is considered too extreme by the middle-of-the-roaders and he will be crucified on the race issue (or at least the Obama camp will try their best to do that ... question is, will it work this time?). But he's the only one who can clean house. Fact is, yes he WILL eliminate jobs - government jobs mostly. Ever worked for the government? Most people who've never been there would be APPALLED at the waste, the dead wood sitting in cubicles doing nothing all day long. I worked for NASA, a relatively get-up-and-go government environment, but it was amazing how wasteful it was). Ron Paul will do the necessary "root canal" and get us back on track as a nation. A nation, yes, where people may be raking their own lawns instead of hiring cheap illegals to do it, and cooking their own meals instead of eating out every night, and supporting their own children instead of relying on the "baby-mama" to get government aid.
Dear CNN: "Millennials" has 2 letters n. And while I have given up hope of that the English language will survive Twitter-esque manglings, I haven't given up on Obama.
CNN, I like how your recommendations for the president are to bribe them by helping them with student loans. How about just offering them opportunity, dare I say... hope??? That is the real reason he has lost the youth vote. He offered hope. He did not deliver and he continually attacks and belittles people who don't believe the same things as him politically rather than trying to be a president for ALL Americans. People want good paying jobs, not handouts.
I would not object to working off a student loan or while on unemployment doing community work; cleaning trash from roads, parks, school grounds, lakes or seashores, feeding and attending the elderly, filling potholes, working at community homeless shelters, repair or renovate poor and elderly housing, picking crops, delivering food and clothing for the needy, and these are just a few opportunities that through networking can lead to better jobs or self employment.
I'm still backing him. At least I know what I'm getting. Were some promises not met? Of course. Just like every other person that has taken office. It took more than 4 years for the U.S. to get to the state that it is in now. It's going to take at least 2 terms before we start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
The ONLY candidate that the youth are identifying with is Ron Paul. Its because they want REAL change. They are tired of Obama constantly going back on his word. Broken promise after broken promise....
RON PAUL 2012
In short, yesterday's youth vote has figured out that they were lied to, that only their vote mattered and not their issues or concerns, and that a politician's promises are utterly worthless. Welcome to the real world, and congratulations on taking your first tentative steps into adulthood.
I'm paying off my student loans right now from both undergrad and grad school. With hard work, smart spending, resisting the temptation to buy a new car, and wise choices, I have recently taken my remaining student loans below the $30,000 mark and am looking to hit the next landmark in the first half of next year: less than $20,000 to pay. So CNN is suggesting that Obama should "erase all federal student debt for those with more than $30,000 in federal student loan debt" as a ploy to get more votes? Seriously? This author is suggesting that President Obama should reward those that haven't worked as hard as me, haven't spent as wisely as me, all for gaining some votes. So because I have been as diligent and responsible as I have, I get rewarded by seeing my bill shrink by $2,000 (or less) while others who haven't been as responsible get to see their student loan debt "erase" to zero.
How is this fair? How does this teach responsibility to young people? And this is all a ploy to get votes! I sincerely hope President Obama does not listen to this bone-headed suggestion by CNN.
In a sense, you have just described the welfare state that Obama craves. Those who are more successful get punished while those who do not get rewarded. It is why communism fails.
I'll be voting for the first time in 2012
OBAMA 2012!
Obama promised he would change my underwear and find me job and he hasnt even tried. Im still sitting at home unemployed sitting in fecal matter. We need a real go getter
The manifestation of OWS is what obama promised, "Hope" for some pocket "Change" while you, and possibly your entire family, is homeless and unemployed.
I ask and ask again – what were Obama's credentials when elected to the Senate by Illinois (my home state). At various events I've met many people who have worked with him as "community organizers" in his heyday years in Chicago, and I ask them, "I've wondered – what exactly did Obama organize – what were his crowning achievements as a community organizer", and I'm met with deer-in-headlight gazes in response. "Uhm, well, I'm not sure exactly...we all worked together and it was really great...he's such a leader". I ask, "but what exactly was accomplished – I really want to know. Did he get 20 kids out of gangs? Change zoning to improve a neighborhood? Renovate depressed housing? I mean, what did he DO?" Nobody knows. People who worked side by side can't even answer the question. I ask time and again, never get an answer except that he's a "great leader". My conclusion – the Emperor has no clothes.
We elected excitement over substance. This isn't about whether he's democrat or republican to me – it's whether he's qualified, and he's simply not. He doesn't know how to do the job. He has potential, but he hasn't come to a boil yet and it was naive of him to think he could handle the job.
Many people pointed out his lack of substantive experience. Yes, he was a Senator but never got beyond the tag of "freshman", and at that, he was one of the least experienced elected even as an incoming freshman. On the Eve of running for his second term he's still blaming the previous administration for his own failures. He does not understand business – no shock, he's never worked in business. He doesn't understand how money works. He doesn't understand the industries he wants to regulate or the people he wants to help. His intentions are golden, but he doesn't have the goods. We can't wish him into success – we need to get serious as a country.
The reality is that we all must sacrifice. The Republicans are being rediculous as well in towing the line on not raising taxes on the wealthiest of Americans. They are begging to pay more. But that doesn't mean that we can take what more we bring in and start spending more – we HAVE to stop spending. Now what – free student loans and so on? How about just extending deferments. Who's going to take up the slack if we cap loans at $30,000? That's less than one year of college – we're going to forgive 75% of people's loans? I don't think that's reasonable – and I'm the single parent of a 17 year old kid who is going to school on loans. I am about to go to grad school myself – but a 75% rate of forgiveness on our loans? These kids aren't going to be out of work forever – this is a temporary situation, that calls for temporary relief.
Whole article is about the debt trap. I still don't get how tuition rates go sky high even for private schools. If enrollment in a private school increases by 5% and they don't rely on state funding, yet tuition increases are closer to 8-9%. Its hard to get. I know after a while you can't keep increasing before it costs you more to just stop. Maybe a study should be done for state schools and realize the state will always cannabalize its part because our society promotes short term fixes instead of long term. Long term fixes upset people's plans and damage business at the long term expense of the country. This country should focus on its agenda more but not atlas shrugged style. That's how the germans did it.
Yes, I have given up - My GOP can not beat this guy, Other than the confused Mitt, we have a bunch of snake oil sellers, dark skin hatiers, and liers. If they lie now, what is going to stop them from lying while in the white house?
The only people who dislike Obama belong to the the military industrial complex because it's being shut down. Wars? Over. Price tag? $600 Billion per year . Look on the faces of war company employees as they receive their pink slips? Priceless.
There is simply no better choice than President Obama, period. If anything the youth should be more energized for Obama than before. There is no president in recent history who has accomplished more on the campaign promises that this President. He is to be credited with the biggest economic turn around since Great Depression. If the Republican Congress did not block his every move to better the economy, we would be doing even better today. Hopefully, the youth of this country will take it upon themselves to change the Congress.
I bought the bumper sticker, the '08 t-shirt, and gave donations for the hope of a new honest president. Young and naive to the corruption of politics, i found a small hope in Obama. Yet he is no better than Bush and his term right now is yet another band-aid to the Reaganomics and plutocrats. I feel foolish having thought legitimate change could have possibly arrived. I only got deeper in debt, more of our human right voice has been taken away, and we are all terrorists in the battle against a human emotion. Congratulations Mr. President, you make me feel terrible about the future.
I was a strong Obama supporter and was dissapointed with the policies he was UNABLE to introduce. The conservatives have been unhelpful and really strangled his attemps. I think he should have fought harder for what he promised but the alternative(s) is far worse. We cannot go back to the conservative approach, we have suffered enough. The economy is improving SLOWLY and will get better over the next few years. Obama really stepped into a pile when he took office and it will simply take more time to fix the Bush/Chenney mess. Obama 2012........
Well, FACTUALLY, the economy IS getting better under Obama. And he isn't the one that ruined it. FACTUALLY, Bush & Co. took a balanced budget and prosperity – courtesy of Clinton – and messed it all up.
The choice is Obama and soem continued digging out of the hole the GOP put us in (Same script leading up tot he Great Depression, that is, GOP leadership is DEATH to our economy), or vote Republican and go die in a war being fought to further the agenda of Big Oil and the military-industrial complex (The one former Supreme Allied Commander and President of the U.S., Gen. Eisenhower, warned us about). The choice is EASY.
Reagan increased deficit by $3 Trillion + GWB increased $7 Trillion & left $1.2 Trillion yearlt deficits – GOP LOSERS – GOP spent AMERICA DEBT
The GOP refuses to invest in our youth, teachers, the country interstates and etc.....
Obama has attempted to invest, but the Congress will not. It is all about cuts ! We never throught of cuts during the WARS and billions spent. I did vote Rup and both Bush. Not now....I refuse to return to the Olde Boys screws this country at war and falling behind. Answer this. The GOP was in office for 8 years, with the currnt tax cuts, and companies going oversea, down sizing. And now the GOP is blaming Obama for this mess and not attempting to put the USA first. No they would rather do anything to run him out of office. This was stated the first day he was elected to office.
No..not me....Not returning to letting some old boys push us into war and not investing in our country and youth. I am sure Obama will out perform them all.
And this is from a retired servicememeber of 30 years and Republican.
And, Ron Paul ! Drugs, racist, no federal taxes, Iran should have nukes ! The youth support this man. My point ! The youth of America has fallen behind the rest of the world, cant compete, because we have not invested in them. Ron Paul......a joke. And if you are actaully drinking that kool aid, you need to perform more research on him. But, this is America and you have right to support drugs use, a racist and a man who just wants America to hide our head in the sand. Vote to make America strong. Not because Obama is different from you.
USA should come before everything esle....this is how I am going to vote.
its not that the GOP do not want to invest in education etc. its that people are getting frustrated with the mad spending of the current administration. take soyndra for instance...think of the billions that went to solyndra...why was that money not allocated to education? think of the money given to states for a high speed train. a train people! why not allocate that money toward schools, social services. these are a couple examples of reckless spending. these are a couple examples of why a majority of americans voted in republicans to take the majority. this is why the forefathers wanted checks and balances. wake up peeps!
All he had was the youth and minorities...while the repugs certainly don't (and still don't) have any superior candidates, Obama should at best be called Student Body King versus POTUS. He will make for an appropriate 'Idol' judge after his presidency is over...
I'm considered part of the Youth, and I haven't given up on Obama. Obama has been trying and you got individuals that are doing whatever it takes to get him out. This isn't his fault and we the younger generation see this, and we are tired of it. The young people will rise up in 2012 and will be excited to vote again for Obama and vote against those that stand in the way of making the middle class better.
Hear we go again...more promises. He has had his chance, lets get rid of him before this country goes all the way down the tubes!!
He will be go in history as the lease qualified and clueless president of the US.
So are the same morons who elected Mr. Obama going to double down on his policies? Let's hope not!
I like how obama's podium is even calling for a "Change" in Presidencies.
if he had a chance! with all the bigots in congress who made clear from day one that no non white person shall ever suceed in office ,at least he had the balls to say pull the triger at Osama,I will look back and say he will get my vote
The race card? You going to beat that dead horse again? lol
People who complain about the lack of change under Obama don't get it. It's like making a quarterback wear 200-lb sandbags, or putting grease on a mountain cilmber's shoes– that's what the deficit and wars were to Obama. Huge obstacles that he overcame. It's not like Obama had a nice fresh start, people. Those who make no mention of the hole he had to climb out of are CLEARLY biased.
Meanwhile, Obama has cut spending dramatically and the Budget Control Act of 2011 that Obama signed cuts government spending by more than it increases the debt limit. In addition, Obama did this without raising taxes at all, in fact, thus far, he has cut taxes significantly for all Americans. In addition, there are more than $21 billion in spending cuts next year alone, and the he continues to reduce the deficit in the years ahead (by $42 billion in 2013, $59 billion in 2014, $75 billion in 2015, $87 billion in 2016, and so on. Thus, Obama has been a fiscal conservative while doing what every economist has agreed is needed during this terrible recession – stimulate the weak demand in the economy by government spending now in exchange for reduced government spending in the future. Obama has been fiscally the best president we've had since Clinton.
Obama cut spending? What kind of moron are you Dan?
$ 1.3 trillion was just added to the deficit.
The crap you hear on MSLSD or Puffington Host belongs in the toilet.
That information on the spending cuts is from John Boehner's web site. This is the republican party's data, not liberals.
So I get to spend 150K on a private education and only have to pay 30k back?
WOOHOO FREE MONEY....GIMMEE...GIMMEE...GIMMEE...BRAD CHASE IS MY MOMMY
You are truly retarded.
George Bush – President 2006 – Unemployment rate 4.6%
2007 – Democrats take the House and Senate – Unemployment rate 4.6%
2008 – Democrats still with house and senate – Unemployment rate 5.8%
2009 – Democrats with House, Senate, President – Unemployment rate – 9.3%
2010 – Democrats with House, Senate, President – Unemployment rate – 9.8%
But thank goodness Democrats had nothing to do with job killing measures like hyper-regulation and the minimum wage hike (job killer – for every wage increase jobs are eliminated – sorry, but that's business), or that their hands are completely clean in the Freddie and Fannie housing debacle (for the record, Barney had his Frank in Freddie's Fannie very early on). No, no, – take a country in 2006 with an unemployment rate of 4.6%, take control of the house and senate, DOUBLE the unemployment rate in the four years you hold 2/3rds the power, and still manage to blame a man who, everyone agrees, was a feckless President in Bush. http://www.bls.gov/cps/prev_yrs.htm
I can't speak personally for the youth of America – I'm a young 51, but I can state what I hear and see from younger people at my work and in my personal life.
I believe the youth of our country more than any other age group distrust our government. They see a government that is fiscally and morally irresponsible. They see politicians who are not true servants of the people, but are self serving. They see a government that has over-extended it's usefulness and is terribly inefficient. They see a government that has sent 10s of thousands of young americans overseas to fight in undeclared foreign wars.
My sense is that young people are fiercely independent because they have seen the destruction and want government to take a minimal role in our lives.
Two must reads of 2011. Theruggedgent(dot)com, a website put together by a bunch of expat madmen and Along the Naktong a novel by Joshua Lorenzo Newett about the existential crisis in which the post modern individual finds themselves.
President hip hop didn't even give black kid's any money. Strange, considering he and mypeople holder initiated the FIRST FEDERALLY SANCTIONED RACE WAR in American history. I guess black people will have to vote for Newt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
someone please tell me what obama has done to improve the quality of life for americans. now dont say gas went down, retirees go a raise and the troops came home from iraq, those are all political ploys to get votes in 2012. hopefully the american public will not fall for it.
Again, the statistics are garbage. MOST 16-18 do not have jobs, they are in school. A good percentage of 19-21 don't have jobs, they are in college. The more meaningful number would be 19-26 non students. How many of these do not have jobs. Bet the number is much lower.
I was a youth last time around but now I am 30 and will still vote for Obama. I guess I'll have to reach out to the youth and hope they pull through.
26 years old and you considered yourself a "youth"? That seems rather indicative of our problem right there.
And all the left want to spout untruths about the intelligence of the right. Ha
Keep on buying into that Victim mentality
Cynthia your a slow learner aren't you
Was this article about anything at all? Clearly, it's not about 'youth'.
The millenials should be every bit as disappointed in Obama as anyone else, but that disappointment shouldn't translate into forgiveness of their debts. Really? Because they're disappointed?! Who isn't? And the recommendations listed in this article are ridiculous...full forgiveness if your student loan is over $30,000, but only a 10% reduction if you were frugal enough to only incur debt under $30,000? So we should be encouraging our young people to live on the income of others and to not pay as they go? This is what we want them to learn? And we should include student loans in bankruptcy...same thing...it is a legal way to steal from someone. Debts unpaid due to bankruptcies online have a domino effect on the next and the next person/business that goes unpaid because of it. The impact doesn't just let the person in bankruptcy "off-the-hook", it means the people the money was owed to now have to assume the debt, creating an ever larger ripple effect. Not good ideas, whether we are talking about Obama or anyone else.
Brad, you are dumb. Obama has already created debt amnesty programs (or they already existed). You don't have to pay more than 10% of your salary towards your student loan debt, and once you make payments for a certain amount of time, you get forgiveness. He already got rid of the loan service middlemen as part of the health care reform bill. They are all handled by the Dept of Education now, for massive savings over time.
And yes, there needs to be more oversight of private loans and for profit corporations profiteering off of these loans.
But it's because of misinformed and ignorant journalists such as yourself that people have such a skewed view of what the President has accomplished.
Millenials need more than just student loan relief. We need an industrial economy that once again provides good jobs and upward mobility. The "information economy" will never create good jobs. Only by bringing manufacturing and inustry back to this county will things actually improve for my generation. Right now, nobody is talking about that...except maybe Pat Buchanon.
wah, wah,wah...i can't pay my loans! millennial's need to realize that we all have had student loans. it takes time to pay them off. it takes time to build your career. i suggest that people pick a school they can afford. i went to a junior college and worked full time. i worked full time (waiting on tables, coffee shops, the mall, cleaning houses)when i transferred to a four year college. i moved all over the USA in order to find job opportunities. my husband joined the military to pay for princeton. there are options. be smart and choose the options you can afford.
This is just horrible. The young people need these jobs. Basically, its impoverishing the youth to a point that it has the potential to set back an entire generation in regard to self sufficiency. Disgusting! The crime rate will soar, because people have to eat and have shelter. Just what does Obama expect the youth to do... sign up for another war in Iran or Syria? Gee, thanks a lot Obama :[
obama does not have my vote.
Obama – just like his predecessor G W – is good at campaigning, but can't govern effectively.
Now he wants to solve the economic problems with another war.
Broken promises. I am disappointed. I'll probably skip the election this time.
We have survived G W, we will survive another 4 years of Obama.
NOT SO..GW TURNED OBAMALIKE ONLY IN HIS LAST 2 YEARS IN OFFICE
obama THE GREAT MANIPULATOR
Do what/say what you want- President Zero is a joke for a leader. 55% unemployment for the youngest ? Give him 4 more years and it'll be 75%.....
When Bush left office unemployment was 4%...and the economy was booming until Freddie/Fannie destroyed it.....blame it on Bush, but at least this country was working and prospering. Heck, even Clinton, GHW Bush and even Jimmy Carter look better than this do-nothing dud. Unless, of course, you're an i l l e gal i m m i g rant...
Obama's first term was just the foreplay.
Obama will get a second term for sure. The white voter will almost have to vote for the black man running, for fear that he will be called uneducated and racist if he doesn't.. The black voter will vote for the black man running ,or he'll be called unfaithfull to his own race. Hispanic voters know Obama doesn't want to close the southern border so they'll vote for him as well. I won't vote for Obama,but it won't matter. I think the younger people of this country will be the big losers in this situation , at the end of the next four years, China will be the super power, we will be hopelessly in debt, and a European type lifestyle will be in place, at that point , there will be little chance of ever being any different than any other country. The USA will be so liberal and socialistic that it will be pitiful. It was nice while it lasted.
What can the Feds do that is better then the private sector in creating jobs?
NOTHING! Thats why OBAMA FAILED! The American people always drift off for the Democrat false hopes and lies and away from the bad old GOP candidates, then a sharp GOP candidate comes back and straightens out the mess the Democrats have done and is loved
as one of the best Presidents ever. Reagan had this happen and next whoever replaces Obama will too!
I just researched this writer. Capitol Media Partners is a right-leaning organization, so pay them no mind.
Folks,
Most economists agree that the government at all levels does not cause the economy to grow or contract, and unemployment is not always the fault of government policies. Indirectly, though, due to policy, there is an adverse effect.
American business owners, paying all the taxes, facing mountains of paperwork with the new health care law (8814 allows small businesses to take a deduction on employees they give health insurance to, but very complicated to figure out-only 20% of businesses are even bothering to take the deduction, for example), and fewer new businesses which hire college grads are starting up due to lack of lending by banks and venture capital.
The only way our economy will grow is for Americans to spend again, and save, and pay down debt, as well as the government. The 15 trillion dollar defict, fueled by Americans wanting the welfare state, will only grow unless Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid and other big government programs are completely privatized, as they face bankruptcy in a few years.
So, it is up to us as Americans as to wanting to start new businesses of our own, take the risk, hire out of work Americans, and have the unjust income tax ended.
South Korea, maker of more televisions than any other nation (Samsung), has an economy that has been growing at 4-12% for decades. Their taxes are very low, especially on business owners, have a limited social safety net and believe in education and hard work. Sinapore also has a pro-business friendly government whose economy has also been booming. Our government? Not as friendly to businesses as it should be.
We need to follow them, or our economy will contract, rather than grow. Most college grads moving in with mom and dad due to lack of companies hiring on campus shows an economy we should not be proud of!
When you say Korea has a limited social safety-net, you need to point out that Korea has totally government-run health care. So no one in Korea, and no business, has to worry about health care costs. The cost of health care is very, very low in Korea, yet the quality of care is considered to be good. Health care is a huge drag on the economy and on the government in this country.
Hope was can Change to a new leader b/c this guy hasn't got a clue. I voted for Obama in 2008 and that was THE BIGGEST MISTAKE I ever made in my life.
The GOP will always have my vote in the future. At least we have a job with them as leaders.
clearly misinformed this whole thing started while bush was in office we were loosing 700,000 jobs a month before obama took office in jan of 09 after his economic package went thru we started adding jobs not losing them and now we are adding jobs 2:1 i mean it took years 12 years for us to get in this mess and ppl want it fixed in 3 years get real obama has done the best he could and trust me if there was a republican in office this wouldn't be any better it would probably be worst..really want would have mccain done differently
Lets keep this simple:
You are an idiot if you believe those "facts" and "figures" ... obama has added only Census taker jobs that lasted a few months. obamacare is responsible for 9% UNEMPLOYMENT ........
lets NOT FORGET UNEMPLOYMENT IS 9% RIGHT NOW.... even higher if you include the ones that GAVE UP LOOKING for a job.. Get you facts straight.
Mr. Obama is the President of the United States . Elected by vote of the people .
George Bush jr. is the one president that the country and the world is ashamed of as a leader .
I still live in fear of the power George Bush jr. just seemingly gave himself .
George Bush jr. and his executive powers that went unchecked.
Truely an ugly time of American history .
Hey Butters You sound paranoid. If you think Bush had too much power, how's about obama suing the states for enforcing immigraion laws, Fast & Furious, Solyndra,invading Libya withour Congress's approval, appointing judges will Congress is out of session........ want a list of items ?
People like you should WAKE UP to whats happening in this country. Blaming Bush is NOT the answer, fool .
I'm not ashamed of Bush – I wish he was back. And all those that I know who did vote for Obama are kicking themselves for believing him. I hope everyone soon figures out that he will say or doing anything to get 4 more years to complete the dismantlement of this great country that he has started.
To all those posting here who believe government should be holding our hands from cradle to grave, consider Chile. This nation many years ago completely privatized their social security system, and all Chileans at age 18 must open a private IRA. As a result, unemployment there is only 5%, as taxes are lower, there is more money for banks to lend and businesses to expand and hire, and they have a larger nest egg in retirement than Americans do with government social security.
But, that is out, of course. Well, we will pay the price!
Also...a lot of the younger vote is going Ron Paul's way
What happened to all those promises he made ? He was suppose to be transparent! He was suppose to end the deficit in the first 2 years, (not) he was suppose to cut the budget (doesn't have a budget) he was suppose to end the wars (started a new one, Iraq war ended after 10 years by the Bush rule)..there were SO MANY promises that he didnt even come close to making happen. He really is too niave to be our leader. Maybe michelle will be proud of her country when we are too broke to buy any food ? Get out Obama! I'll take any nominee the GOP comes up with . Thank You CNN FOR REPORTING THIS STORY.
People need to remember the facts of who did what!!!!
This is just a History lesson. I am sending it to all regardless of party . I bet I know who wouldn't read it - those afraid of the truth. It is history and nothing can change it.
The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007, the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.
The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.
For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this:
January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:
The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!
Remember that day...
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that BarneyFranktook over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. [THAT'S TWO ROOSTERS LET LOOSE IN THE HEN HOUSE!!!]
The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!
THANK YOU DEMOCRATS(especially Barney) for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment...to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!
(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie -starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy). Barneyblocked it and called it a "Chicken Little Philosophy" (and the sky did fall!)
And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA
And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY!!!!
So when someone tries to blame Bush...
REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"
Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch.
Budgets do not come from the White House.. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.
Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.
In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.
For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budget.
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. Let's remember what the deficits looked like during that period:
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.
If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is "I inherited a deficit that I voted for,and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th."
There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
"The problems we face today exist, because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living."
No I am 24 and have a job. I haven't given up on Obama we only gave Bush 8 bloody years. To destroy what it took Clinton only eight years to build. As far as I can see we made it out of the recession. An ah it's those republicans in congress who are screwing up the works. The dude ended a war so many wanted over. An took a back seat on Libya also he found Osama. America is better off and he has a year to go. The GOP can go home I think all of them are clowns.
Some day you'll grow up (hopefully) and find out that it wasn't until the GOP got the majority when Clinton was in office and worked with him to balance the budget to turn things around and that the money that this president is idiotically spending money on pet projects that go bankrupt, legislation that only feeds the gravy train of politicians and doesn't help individuals long term or grow the economy and his ideological stance is going to leave you a whole lot poorer than your parents ever were.
Actually Bush set the date to end the Iraq war, Obama just followed through.
I think attention should be paid to WHY student debt is such a problem – and it's more than the unemployment rate in the 18-29 age group. Why is there the need for so many remedial classes at the college level after 12 years of taxpayer paid el-high education? Why do professors receive such cushy salaries, healthcare and retirement while working markedly less than 8-5 even four days a week? Why does no advisor share with students that a major in the life cycle of emus or the mores of the Etruscans is unlikely to open up a great number of potential employment opportunities? Anyone ever discuss that roofers, plumbers, electricians, mechanics, welders are in constant need and do not require years of expensive college education? The higher education propagandists have feathered their own nest by convincing the public that college is a must.
To those complaining about Obama being inexperienced, here are some facts:
- Nobody has any experience being president, before being president. Some presidents learn being president faster than others.
As for being experienced, Obama now has more experience being president than any of the republican candidates none of whom has ever been president.
And here is my opinion. If re-elected, Obama, having nothing more to lose, will be much more forceful in carrying out his agenda of fighting for the middle class than in the first term. Hopefully, we'll have a democratic majority in the house, so Obama can get more things done.
Obama has shown much restraint in Libya and I am grateful for that. I believe most Americans are war weary and chances are that a republican president is much more hawkish than a democratic president. I am also grateful for Obama getting out of Iraq; what a terrible waste of lives and resources under Bush!
"Have the youth given up on Obama?" Yes, he advertised himself as a "change" candidate but then just ended up being Bush with brown skin. The only reason the right don't like him is because while he's a Corporatist Plutocrat, he isn't a BIG ENOUGH Corporatist Plutocrat for them.
We want someone who ***IS NOT*** a Corporatist, not somebody who's slightly less of a Corporatist than their opponent.
Youth? Hasn't everyone given up on him by now?
Question on the "just 55.3 percent of Americans between 16 and 29 have jobs"...anyone know where this comes from? the link is to another article that doesn't cite a real source. Kids 16, 17 and 18 are likely still in high school (hopefully) and even people through age 22 are ideally in college. If anyone knows more details or a real citation on this statistic please post!
Yes, please include those people that have GIVEN UP LOOKING FOR A JOB as well, ok ?
Amazing amount of bad information here. This disrespect for our duly elected (whether you like it or not) President is a sign of ignorance. He has done very well to avoid another Great Depression, the economy has had 23 straight months of private sector job growth, we got both Bin Laden and al-Alawi with no lives lost, we helped transform the Middle East with no troops on the ground, and we are out of Iraq. All this in the face of nonstop GOP obstructionism and cloture threat. And the simple truth is that GOP presidents in the past has been responsible for massive increases in the national debt. Fact, period.
obama has increased the debt more in his 3 years THAN ALL OTHER POTUS's COMBINED, yet you post those remarks. He was duly elected and will be duly jerked from office in January 2013...
You are simply wrong. Try locating facts on a web site by Googling "growth of national debt by President" since you presume that you are being lied to. Only a fool does that.
And only Frank makes up his own facts. YOU need to google "Debt by POTUS"
-The president spent $787 billion on job growth and infrastructure revitalization, and the unemployment rate has remained steady at 9-10%.
-After prancing around for the cameras on day 1 of the job to close G.I.T.M.O., he decided to keep the military prison open. Eavesdropping, and interrogation tactics implemented by the previous administration, which Barack Obama vehemently detested during his campaign lead to the detection, and infilitration of Osama Bin Laden. No to mention the authorization of unilateral military actions into Pakistan.
-Increased troop presence in Afghanistan, bombing of Libya, bombing in Pakistan, instability in Iraq; so much for the Nobel Peace Prize.
In conclusion despite having a democratic Congress the first two years in office, Barack Obama with his immaturity and inexperience has fallen out of favor even with his own party. The last time the nation had a surplus was with a republican controlled congress under Bill Clinton; for those not familiar with government policy, the Congress creates, and approves the Budget!
Corporatist – good word.
I would rather have my tax dollars go to paying Jon's student loans than pay for illegals and lazy American welfare leeches (and I mean the ones who can work, but choose not too, not the folks who are temporarily down and out). At least Jon is trying....and it would be cheaper.
The United Kingdom is moving away from a universal health care system for privatization.
Greece has a 40+% income tax, and is on the brink of economic collapse.
Meanwhile the United States under the leadership of his majesty Barack Obama enacts a universal health care system, and continually thinks that levying more taxes, while less people are working, and relying on government subsidies is a solution to our economic woes.
Reliance on government will never foster progression, but herd the weak and feeble. This is what our current leadership wants, because that is the key to power, not progression, for which they could care little about.
Yes, college tuitions are high, but they are not exactly a secret to those taking out the loans. There are many ways to go through college (yes at high tuition) but to also plan your finances better. The tuitions are going up at a crazy rate, but that is a separate issue than the fact that people knowingly tool out loans. I know people who took out over $100k in loans tom pay for school. That's nuts, but their responsibility. It is not my responsibility to pay for that stupid choice.
This is the most slanted article I have ever read! Of course 55% of 16-29 years olds are unemployed, 16-22 are in school and most don't have to work. This author is an idiot. And of course older people have more money, we have been acquiring assets for decades. He quotes what ratio differences in Reagan's time but not the current ratio - just says it's greater - right! I don't believe it because if he knew the stats he would have included them. Young people are discouraged, but they are smart enough to know that this is residual effects of Bush and Obama's policies are finally starting to take hold and ... as expected things are improving.
no need to wonder why CNN is going broke printing this bilge. i guess it appeals to the bottom 20% and the public employees that want to keep them there.
one reason more and more college grads are unemployed or underemployed is that they're choosing majors that just are not marketable in the areas they want to live.
Comments are proof positive of the unemployment figures in article....too many people out of the workforce for too long....
Thankfully, the young people in my neighborhood are coming around to the Republican viewpoint. They finally understand that Socialism is the enemy of the American dream.
I think this author has some student loans he wants forgiven!
Why must the taxpayers absorb the losses when student loans are forgiven or reduced? These student CHOSE to borrow to go to school. There never was a guarantee of a high paying job waiting for them. They knowingly and willingly borrowed and promised to repay monies so why are they NOW whining about it. I worked two part time jobs and a full time job and repaid my student loans because when you borrow and pledge to repay YOU ACCEPT THAT RESPONSIBILITY , you dont whine about it afterwards and expect someone else to assume your commitment
I did the same thing. worked full time and paid off my student loans. my husband joined the military and that paid for his college education. thank you for being another responsible american. god bless you and god bless our country!
I agree that one should lie in the bed they made, but I'm just saying that if my tax dollars have to pay for something, I would rather it be somebody who, bad decisions aside, is trying as opposed to somebody who is not.
How many are still living (rent-free) in Mommy's basement?
As far as Jon making stupid choices goes....I don't think any 18-19 yr old makes the best choices all of the time. I know I didn't.
If I had my choices to llive in the world . America would not be in my top 3 .
Now send the christian gestapo after me .
Traitor- Please leave and bring obama with you .
2012 ELECTION is going to be historical for America! Either the people vote to let the corporations (Republicans) govern the people, OR the people(Democratic) to govern the corporations! Which is it! You don't want Obama again, then who do you think is any better! None of the clowns currently running for the Republican candidate are any better! In fact, I think they may be a lot worse!
Attempt to grow a brain Mickey.....
Say what you will, but anyone can make promises when running for office. It's their accomplishments once they are IN office. As long as there are huge corporation $$ and lobbyists in back pockets, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
Without a doubt. While I am still cynical it is a start when Mitt Romney says it is time to dissolve large PACs.
Ron Paul would definitely take the money out of the office, but his foreign policy viewpoints are far too radical.
How is fighting these foreign wars so the politicians,corporations, and the Crony-capitalists can get rich, while leeching off our government and the average American. These wars are actually a great burden on America. Your logic and reasoning is sounds only to a war-mongering neo-con whose completely blind and thinks were required to help Israel because of some bible myth. You should absolutely adore Obama for expanding our Foreign policy around the globe
.... Very flawed logic and reasoning.
Democrats = Victims
Anyone else = Victorious
That goes for the 2012 election as well as the mindset of those who buy into the Democrat propaganda
No, The Problem is all the young people think they can just get free money from OBAMA. And you know what they can. There are people who i know who get more from the government then i make every week, not to mention $8,000 at tax time. That's the problem, we need to stop rewarding stupid behavior and giving money to people who pop out kids like rabbits. But there's no good jobs because all the "baby boomers" aren't retiring because they didn't save enough for their retirement so there's no room for the younger generation to fill in in the corporations. I personally Worked 40 or more hours every week this entire year without one day vacation or sick.
Great post.
I myself will not give up on Obama. Sure there are some issues he was unable to follow through on but that is largely due to bureaucracy. The economy was sinking before he got here but it hit bottom while he was in office and he was unable to stop the inevitable. We continue our debt not because of the President but the belief in ourselves. Sure, we rely heavily on outside influences and the President has to consider that and what happens more often than not are individuals unable to see that. He presides over the United States people. How many states is that? How many people make up each state? What about provinces? All these need to be factored in when your reviewing someone's track record.
I for one am happy that a sitting President took the reigns on Health Care as i got very tired that every President before him made it their podium but did nothing. President Obama had a great idea however it may not have been received that way. He did a lot more good then people give him credit for...Putting a stop to wasteful spending. Well it seems easy on paper...on the airwaves but think about how you yourself would stop the spending if you knew how many people it would affect? Many things need to be consider and i for one believe that our President continues with our best interests at heart.
You should give up on obama. He does not have your interests at heart. He's only looking out for himself. Who are you trying to foll by saying that he didn't get things done because of bureaucracy? The dems had control for two years. They passed the (failed) stimulus and waited until the dead of night on 12/21/2010 to force an unwanted health care law. Why isn't the president out there talking about his record of achievements? It's becasue they are unpopular with Americans. So now he has to resort to demonizing his opponents and tell everyone that it could have been worse. It also could have been better. How can you sit there and type that obama should get credit for controlling wastefull spending? Where have you been for the past three years. There's more waste now than ever before. Ever hear about solyndra? How about the fact that obama chief of medicare/medicaid said that 20-30 percent of health care spending is pure waste. Wake up and stop drinking the koolaid
obama a liar a loser weak and won becouse people wanted change and they though a black man is change sad part everyone running against him is weaker and a biger loser so no matter what we lose out the people of america are the losers simple as that
oblammer is a joke and the libtards need to stop blamming bush. its been three years. he is a has done nothing do nothing carter of a pres. i voted for him and will not make the same mistake.
Maybe if we just gave Obama another chance he wouldn't repeat all of the mistakes from his first term and he would lead us into a true utopia where everyone is perpetually happy and everything is perpetually free. Come on, we can do this!
It's obvious that the only effort and energy put fort by this Democratic President is in being reelected. What's more shameful than this is the Democratic Party not having an alternative primary candidate.
Obama's leadership is a joke as are the "facts" posted here by all these BHO supporters. No one posts any supporting links or info just pure BS. Fact is most of his voters want a friggin CHECK from Uncle Sam. Get off your azz and go to work, stop being a parasite and voting for incompetent idiots like Obama and maybe we can get this country on track.
we all bought into the 'change" thing. we thought we needed it after 15 years of washington control. but obama was just another political hack that kept up the same policies of washington. his changes resulted in massive deficts, super-enlarging the number of federal workers, massive tax hikes, ....
his view of change was not what we expected. his failure to make changes for the better never came.
time for another change
Zakaria sure stays on message. As it becomes overwhelmingly obvious that Obama is a failure, Zakaria explains it is because Obama isn't far enough to the left.
The young people thought he was going to actually make a difference, becuase news outlets like CNN built him up so high they all drank the coolaid. Now they realize it was all a farce and presidents don't really accomplish much no matter who is in office. So they won't believe the hype about politician ever again and that is a good thing. Hopefully they will realize they are egotistical power hungry poops.
I was duped by the media that supported him so wholeheartedly. Have you noticed how CNN, MSNBC and other leftist outlets begin to publish positive economic news? So predictable. If there was a republican or libertarian president in the WH they'd lament the horrible economic development, unemployment, etc.
Yes, it was stupid of me to be duped by the likes of Ted Turner's and Jane Fonda's propaganda tool, I was hoping for a new Ronald Reagan (he talked about him at his rallies all the time) yet I got a new Jimmy Carter, another socialist apparatchik president who supports Palestinian terrorists. No, I won't vote for Барак Обама ever again. Nor will I send money to his campaign again. I'm a fiscally conservative libertarian and I'm truly ashamed I voted for that horrible loser over a person who sat in Vietnamese prison as a POW. Thought McCain was too old so I voted for someone who was too stupid instead. Shame in me.
500 yrs from now any civilization that exists will look back on this time and era and see Americans as a totally brainwashed society through government and media . They will see this time as a turning point also , that is still in the works of playing out .
I've seen change!! for the worse!!!
Your problems were not caused by Obama, it is a slow trickle down affect from Bush being president. And America is still suffering from his presidential days. So lay the blame where it belongs. At the Replubicans Door.
Anyone who backs any candidate 100% republican or democrat and thinks they can change the world is in a fairy land and a moron. People who are in love with our politicians are delusional and scary.
I havent lost hope for President Obama I lost hope for the entire process. This country is not a dictatorship, the President has to work with the other elected officials to get things done. When you have a congress, on both sides, that want to bully, control and win every debate, nothing positive will ever happen. Whether you are a Rep or Dem or what ever if you elected official is going on tv and saying that they will not work with the President then they are not doing part of the job you sent them their to do. President Obama like all elected officials had some good and bad ideas, but his vision was consistant. The middle class is being destroyed and something must be done to help. The alternative should not be exceptable to anyone.
I beg to differ. Young adults don't like Obama because of his character. He is a bold face LIAR. He campaigned on hope and change. He told everyone he was different that your typical politician and that there was going to be transparency. Turns out he is worse than the typical politician. He is a piece of trash Chicago politician.
Young people know when they hear a hypocrite that tells everyone to put partisan politics aside but calls Americans that don't agree with him enemies. Do as I say not what I do. Aside from killing some big terrorist targets he made one misstep after another because he is incompetent.
I'm also sick and tired about people whining or saying somebody should get a bail out. Yes, the banks got bailed out but they paid back the money. This idiot author wants to forgive most of a student’s debt. Then he suggests that the stimulus should have been given to people so they can go buy things. I understand that the economy needs consumers to buy items but giving people money is a band aid and out a fix. It is also temporary. When the money is gone and the jobs still haven't come back you've accomplished nothing. The government can't create jobs. It needs to provide and environment where businesses want to invest in America instead of shipping jobs overseas. Obama care needs to get repealed. The tax rate/code and regulations need to get overhauled.
I did not vote for Mr. Obama nor will I vote for him this time around. One thing is for sure sans Republican or Democrat (it doesn't matter) we need to start saving this country money. We need to stop sending millions to aid other countries and start assisting our own. Once we have our GDP up, jobs have been created and Social Securtiy and other funds are taken care of then we can talk about helping other countries again. I do not blame Bush or President Obama..let's just make some progress...I have nothing against Republicans or Dems...let's work together like our founding Fathers and work together.
The conservatives complaining about President Obama sound much like the CEO's taking credibly for success but blaming failure always on some other cause. Bush Junior just about destroyed this countries economy, started a war in Iraq based on made up information or can't recall which reason we are using now and started handing out TARP fund. Then the GOP acts surprised that all was not made perfect immediately even though in their new role as the "party of no" they appose all. With the pathetic GOP candidates except for Huntsman I'll vote for Obama again in a second.
Well Obama and the media made you believe that he was going to fix everything with a blink of an eye and the young people drank the koolaid, that is the problem here. Anyone with half a brain new he wasn't go to fix anything, so why did he say he was?
it's obvious you don't know what you are talking about
Yes, we've learned a little bit and will be supporting Ron Paul this time if we didn't already in 2008.
The reason student loan debt is so high is because higher education is so expensive. Rather than forgiving debt which is a one time band aid that does nothing to help future generations of Americans who will attend college – why not tackle the real problem... out of control tuition costs.
Why are tuition costs so out of control – well there are lots of reasons – most tracing back to some form of government influence. Like the federal government guaranteeing student loans... That allows banks to loan out as much as they want with little or no fear. The colleges know this – and want that money. So this allows upward pressure to exist on tuition prices. If students couldn't borrow unlimited funds that would put downward pressure on tuition costs as schools would have to compete and actually offer value for the tuition dollar.
The article make the reference like I gave a HOOT about Obama to begin with. When the expectations were already well beneath from the start, failure of those expectations does not nothing but confirm what was aleady known about the in-expereince levels .... Damn I hate it when i'm right like most of the others who knew not voting for this idiot was the right thing to do from the start ....
Check out the author..works for a PR firm..this looks to be a bought and paid for PLANTED ARTICLE by someone with an agenda a and cash to spend
You have to consider what the alternative is. Romney just compared Gingrich's campaign to the "Lucy" sitcom. Romney needs to update his cultural references.
I have given up on him ever since he dropped the ball when the people took to the streets. That was his opportunity to ignite the nation in a movement to make real change like a real great president would have. Instead he sat there quiet. To me that tells me he was afraid to stand up and address the issues because he is a hypocrite who takes lobbyist kick backs and help towards his individual cause – to climb the political ladder. He had to keep his trap shut or be called out and smeared himself.
I feel like the liberal media is behind Obama as well and selectively covers news based on what is good for him. The vibe in the USA is that the system is rigged! Whether it's true or not that is how it feels. And I am a successful business owner with 12 employees and we are all East Coast liberals who ride bikes more than drive cars. We love this land and want to make it better.
Happy new year all, we will get through these times. Pull up your boots and get out there and help the people who have the balls to take to the streets. It's not about one man anymore, it's about us and getting our collective voices heard.
"Have the youth given up on Obama?"
...and the elderly, and the middle-aged, and the unborn.
You name it...
I have NO sympathy for ANYONE who voted FOR the Kenyan Occupier and is now jobless, homeless, etc. YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU VOTED FOR. My sympathy lies with the other Americans who PAY TAXES only to see it taken by the DEMS and given to the lazy, stupid, and illegal aliens to buy votes.
If you're dumb enough to vote for an unqualified nattering nabob WHO LIED NON-STOP to get elected, who never stopped campaigning, and who is on his 20th vacation, YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
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nobody cares.
slow news day, msnbc?
Wait till next year. Once the GOP gives Mittins thier stamp of approval, those unhappy young people, lukewarm liberals & independants are going to come rushing back into Obama's arms. People must have been really really niave if they thought our problems that took yrs & yrs to create where just going to vanish once Obama took office. Obama said in 08 that things where not going to be easy. This is the first black president who made hope & change his slogan, the world litterally cried when he took office. Did anyone honeslty think the GOP was going to sit back & go easy on him? Nope. They see Obama as public enemey number 1. They are throwing thier absolute worst at Obama. You cant keep every promise when you have a congress that will sign a pledge to make you fail. The tea party? was created to destroy Obama period. Obama still has my vote.
Only people on the coasts think like you. The rest of us know better. You must have been "really really naive" to think that a community organizer with no experince could fix anything. You must have been "really really naive" to buy into the "hope and change" mantra. How come we've come out of previous recessions better than we are coming out of this one. It must be because the problem obama underestimated was bigger than he thought and has nothing to do withhis policies right? Your boy said that if he didn't get things turned around in three years he is going to be a one term pres. Steve Jobs also called it.
I guess that means the lowering of the ocean's tides will have to wait until 2012.
No wonder folks are giving up on Oboma, He is for getting all the votes he can from a race and not the American people.
THAT IS WHY THEY ARE VOTING FOR REAAAAAAAAAL CHANGE IN RON PAUL. He runs on small citizen donations not GOLDMAN SACH and other BAILOUT BANK MONEY LIKE ALL THE OTHER SO CALLED OPTIONS. GO2 opensecrets WEBSITE to see proof. RP 2012.
The problem with people is that we want more with less.. more money with less hr of work. We are a lazzy generation. There are plenty of opportunities to be successful. Just look for it. Work hard, save money, don't spend it on stupid irrational things
LIKE STUDENT LOANS.
I not giving up on Obama: he will continue to deliver America to the Gays, to the Hispanics, to the leftists.
Obama has done nothing but continue, and in some cases, worsen the corrupt policies of Bush. Bush=Obama=Romney–they are all the same corrupt, liars. Obama is a complete failure and changed nothing, and only escalated our problems. RON PAUL has the vote of the youth, and this time, Ron Paul is a candidate we can trust, a candidate who on record has never wavered, never flip-flopped, is principled, dignified, can not be bought out by big corporations and wall street, and who will END THE WARS and BRING THE TROOPS HOME. RON PAUL HAS THE BACKING OF THE YOUTH, and voting for Ron Paul is the greatest protest you can make towards the corruption in Washington.
Hoax and Chains – brought to us by Obama and KY Jelly.
So, "youth" will abandon Obama, and vote instead for.... Romney? Santorum? Gingrich? Sorry guys, I'm just not seein' that happen. They may be young, but they're not stupid.
We're hoping they stay home which will hurt obankrupt's chances
i've given up on this system
its greedy, corrupt and inhumane
politicians are professional liars
the fact that religion is thrown into the decision making process, makes everybody unsafe
as long as humans believe they know the will of any god, humans are in danger
Obama needs to go! He is a HUGE liar! all the people who voted for him were stupid fools! How did he get away with the fast & furious? Obama should be in jail for that crap along with Holder! Everyone who voted for Obama please redeem yourself by registaring as a Republican and voting for Ron Paul !
Although I may have given up on Obama, it is not for the typical reasons one might assume. My faith has been shattered by the fact that Obama and most democrat leaders, unlike the GOP – have the stomach to follow through with their agenda even when elected by the majority of Americans. Far too many opportunities have been missed to correct the direction this country has taken under the ideology and actions of the GOP.
Will I vote for Obama again? You bet! If it means keeping the conservative party out of the White House therefore preventing them from picking up where they left off in terms of destroying the economic fiber of the middle class then my vote goes to Obama.
scott people like you need to kill youselves you are too stupid and are ruining this country
What would be better than Obama? Romney? That is laughable. Gingrich? Even more hilarious.
Romney is a white obama. Except he might actually BE liberal instead of a neocon which Obama is. Gingrich? Hes immoral
I guess you need a strong stomach when you flip flop as much as a democrat does. The only faction within the government that sticks to what they say is the tea party. They are against wastefull spending and cutting the deficit. They are the only ones who are doing what they campaigned on. Obama and the dems only pander.
Very well articulated. My thoughts exactly. Obama for 2012.
you too, kill yourself or leave our country, anyone who doesn't support the 2nd amendment is anti american,if you think the 2nd amendment is out dated then you might as well rip up the whole thing up and start a new country
Stop it SCOTT!! Stop cutting & pasting your comment! Obama had his chance and paased Obamacare which will help ruin our economy more then has already be done! He should have done what was NEEDED! Jobs!!!
@Scott, you bring HOPE to us all.
For The Record: I wasn't going to answer a text message I received from Pres. Obama for dinner date few seconds ago. Reading your post I've decided to give the man a chance as compared to these primitive, backward Repuke crazies with low IQ's. You bet your ASS I am in.
Obama 2012 WIN hands down!
your scott ! and Obama is a huge failure! Ron Paul is our only hope! Obama supporters are seriously retarded, and need to leave our country, if you dont support the 2nd amendment then you might as well not support the 1st or anyone of them!
FYI: A sentence begins with a Capital letter and ends with a FULL STOP. Just like a typical crazy Repuke with low IQ and brain deficiencies, you have no clue where to place your comers or periods.
Did you even set foot in 1st-Grade or you miss that yellow school bus in your trailer park. Seek some education for the sake of all Americans. RACIST Ron Paul my ASS!
Scott – you're a brainwashed socialist but you're too narrow-minded to realize that.
youth are turned off by tea party violence and GOP "No No No creativity" circus. Obama 2012 is obvious
what violence? you mean like in the OWS tents?
Obama for ex president in 2012! Yes We Can't!!
WRONG, I won't let it happen. OBAMA will win the next election, I assure you.
Yes You Can't!! Buh Bye Barry!
Yes I have given up on Obama, I want Ron Paul to have a turn to ruin this country now.
Obama literally is George Bush entirely outside of his ability to form coherant sentences. Everything else, his entire policy, is 2006 republican.
Its funny that people think romney will be different. Hes more liberal than obama has been.
Translation: buy them off with taxpayers money.
Obama is a dolt.
I thought at 46 yrs. old you should have some brains. Instead you have Texas shoe wax brains. Dumb for inactivity. Have your brain shock to melt your shoe wax brains. Ditto-head!
Young people tend to be inexperienced, ignorant, non-working and gullible. Is it no surprise this group of people got Obama elected president? The best experience anyone can get is after college when you are out in the workforce working a full time job and living on your own, paying your own bills.
Yeb; since Pres. Obama behaves like timidity WIMP chicken with broken wings who caves in to GOP at every turn. He could hardly come out swinging or stick a punch and bloody the stinky noses of those GOP imbecilic idiots hindering progress of the country. The youth of America wants someone who can stand his grounds against GOP idiotic bullies. His cave-ins were real turnoffs for anyone who voted for him inclu. his so-called youth voting base, resulting in low turnout in Nov 2010 mid-term elections. I have to drag my son by the ASS to bring him to polling station. I must say he voted under duress. Extending Bush tax cuts for the rich made things even worse. Pres. Obama have still not explained to us for his stupid actions when he has over 87% of Americans against any extension of Bush tax-cuts for the rich. How dare he goes against this grain is beyond us to this day.
Extending Bush tax cuts for the rich is non-negotiable ………….. period!
Their simply is not a candidate anyone under 30 can relate to, but probably Obama comes closest, and when it counts will likely get the votes. It is not all because those under 30 are in a bad position either, are politicians are simply out of touch.
Blame the policy to accommodate illegal immigrants who are taking all the youth and lower skill jobs from our own deserving citizens and quite often the liberal policy toward IAs is forcing many youth to turn to crime for money. America should be able to dictate who comes in, who is and isn't needed etc.
Most american youth dont know which end of the hammer to swing. They think honest work is beneath them and that they should all start out 100K a year sitting behind the desk goofing off on a computer.
College is not a right. If you have run up debt you cannot afford it is your own fault. Thats why we had the meltdown. Like it or not when you take loans these people cover you with their money and expect to be repaid. When you dont pay your debts you have stolen.
Obama- you sucki sucki – lol
Obama- you very bad , you have to lose because your blackening up the white house !!! yes , thats right i said what 80% of you cowards wouldnt dare.. chinky knows,, lol
You must a 60 year fat dude with this kind of bafoon like comment. Can you take it somewhere else please.
Ahhh, the proverbial liberal cop out. This is one of the many reasons he will fail. His followers are oh so quick to play the race card. This keeps you from having to attempt the daunting task of trying to sound intelligent.
Of course I've given up on Obama. This is a no brainer. At this point only Extreme Liberal Activist are sticking by him. Democrats are bailing on him.
Speak for yourself buddy.
You sound like one of those crazy Repuke's with midget brains.
Does the saying; the devil you know is better than the angel you don't know; ring a bell?
At least Pres. Obama’s brains are firing on all 6-cylinders whilst midget brain GOPers combined are firing minutely on one-cylinder.
No, but I have given up on the Republican 1% Party. Christ couldn't fix the mess Bush left.
No way. He has shown integrity, determination and grace throughout. The president had not only been given a tougher-than- tough road to travel in getting anything done on the hill and let us not forget what he inherited! It would take more than four years for anyone to get the majic wand to pass over the awesome mess which fell in his lap.
Liberals are so uninformed. We like in a capitalist society. In this type of society you don't punish businesses, you don't punish the rich, and you don't punish the middle class, which is what the liberals are doing. You promote business growth by not regulating and not overtaxing. This is why a good, true Libertarian candidate would be a help to our country. Big government doesn't work. Healthcare is a private organization, and it is a privilege. The incentives to get a job and work have been taken away from Americans by liberals who want the taxpayer money, and money we don't have, to be spent on people who don't feel like accomplishing anything. I have news for them: This is America, and this is how it works, If you don't do anything you'll never be anything. America needs to revert to our old values before this big liberal movement came into place. We need strong leaders again. I'm not going to say that Bush Jr. was a superb president, but Obama isn't working either. This is why I'm voting for Ron Paul.
So the government forced these kids to pick a college that they have no realistic possibility to ever pay back? I know through the new federal college funding program they are passing out student loans like candy. Sorta like the Fanny-may and freddie-mac did on home loans. Leaving us responsible wage earners to pick up the bill. I cant afford a Ivy-league education for my own kids but now you feel that i owe your kid an education you cannot afford. Makes me want to hurl!.....
RE: "Bud pretty simple Tom... Profits equal jobs... jeeee
Well, businesses are sitting have been sitting on large piles of cash (because they are making good profits) for over a year now but are hiring few workers. They will hire again when consumer demand rises. Consumer demand will rise when consumer confidence rises. Consumer confidence is low because jobs are tight. Do you see how it all works together? Oversimplistic-glenn-beck dogmatic slogans like 'profits equal jobs' persuade voters to elect buffons like Dubbya... and you see what he left us with....
LONG LIVE OBAMA !!! I will cry like those North Korean women in the middle of sunset Blvd. if Obama not elected.
So if student loan debt could have avenues for forgiveness; does that mean that the $37,000 that I paid back, several years ago, have some redemption?
Youths and adults alike.
Been a Republican all my life. Voted for McCain and was very upset by the attacks on McCain from the right.
Thought Obama had no executive experience, and his race and background would make governing difficult.
Obama thought reason and compromise would work in governing. He alienated the left wing of his party by his willingness to compromise on SS and medicare. The Republicans boxed in by the tea party clearly made it their business to obstruct any progress. The middle class is being destroyed. The Bush tax cuts which greatly favored the wealthy (Job creators?) worsened the deficit and did not create jobs. The job creator myth is a laughable theory. Despite being richer than ever they aren't creating jobs. The truth is a healthy middle class creates the demand for goods and services that make the need for new business and jobs. Obama is on the side of the middle class. Claims that he is a socialist is silly. Every President we have had when the economy was healthy and the middle class was growing supported a steeply progressive income tax. That's not Socialism it's the only way to prevent Capitalism from sinking into Feudalism! History has shown unfettered Capitalism results in a few very wealthy and many poor. Folled by depression.
very well put...thank you!
Unfortunately what your saying will not be understood by the average American. We're in lot's of trouble. Another 3-5 years before it really hit's the fan.
I have absolutely given up on Obama. He has proven to be nearly worthless.
That said, he'd have to slaughter puppies with a 5 iron on live television while quoting from the Necronomicon before I would vote for anything coming out of the GOP camp. I'll take his brand of spineless incompetence long before I vote for ultra-religious individual rights-shattering freaks.
Take another look at Ron Paul. He doesn't fit the classic ideo-evangelical right wing mold you described
It's amazing the amount of Conservative idiots living in good ole America. Most of the posts here from those repubs who hate Obama actually got their news from FOX. Their ignorance of what actually took place over the last four years is so amazing I just really hope NOT to see ANY Republican candidate in the White House in years. Their followers are just simply stupid non-reading morons. No wonder the world just laughs at the ignorance of you Americans. Just for the record. THE WORLD LOVES OBAMA. NOT ANYTHING REPUBLICAN.
I hate liberals ahahhahah!!! They are so so stupid... AHhhh I'm so mad at them... Me – 1, You – 0
LONG LIVE OBAMA !!! I will cry like those North Korean women in the middle of sunset Blvd. if Obama not elected.
Hooray for Obama, Hooray for Obama !!!!
Ineptocracy – a sustem of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid fo rby the cofiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers...
No... of course not! How is it his fault that our unemployment isn't moving downward? It is not the government's responsibility to create jobs that is the so called "job creators" responsibility. The government's responsibility is to make the climate favorable for job creation which Obama has done time & time again and has been rebuffed time and time again by our repub controlled house. Once all those bums are gone in the next election, it'll be smooth sailing for our country in general and our economy in particular.
That sounds good and I agree and all, but if you look two or three post down from yours, folks like jiggaboo will never allow smooth sailing in this country. Fools like that make me wanna have eyes in my elbows and a$$ cheeks and one in the chamber with the racist sh!t they spew...and here we are in the 21st century, what a disgrace to the human race some folks are...smdh!
Student loan forgiveness, really? rolleyes Did you big government nanny, thieving, liberal-cornsucking sodomites learn anything from home loan/foreclosure forgiveness?
President Obama has apparently decided to rest on his successes; Tax reform; illegal immigration; energy independence; reduced spending/debt reduction; job creation. What's left for him to accomplish?
Name a country that thrives under a black leader you can't. This affirmative. Action monkey is not qualified. The top 10 homicide cities are all black. Jiggas equal destruction. IMPEACH THE PRIMATE BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!! THIS GHETTO NIGA AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PRIMATE WANTS TO DESTROY AMERICA. SEND HIM BACK TO HIS HOMELAND WHERE THEY ARE STILL AMAZED BY THE WHEEL AND FIRE
Your mother had an STD when she gave birth to you didn't she? It soounds as if you've got lesions on your brain, if in fact you have a brain!
CNN, do you own Fox network or do they own CNN??? Just wondering....One person's opinion does not always speak for the entire group. Can half of the commenters seriously know why the post ignorant comments about The President of the United States? Problably not, because CNN is just as ignorant....It must be horrible to be Black in America.....to all the replies....you know where to stick IT!!! Next....
America has a short memory. Obama won the election not only due to his speaking abilities but that Americans were totally fed up with Bush, Cheney and the rest of them. Unfortunately, Obama is turning out to not be the savior many expected. Even though he has an almost impossible job, he is not getting the right messages across. The biggest problem is that Obama's deficiencies will open the door for one of these Republican clowns to win and then God help us all.
I believe that Universities that failed to produce should be expected to provide partial refunds to all of their students, not just the ones they lured with massive debt.
Change we can believe in!
Obama was the least-qualified presidential candidate of a major party in history. His performance in office is consistent with his legislative record. More often than not, he has voted "present" or not shown up when push has come to shove.
Obama fooled me once, and I voted for him in 2008 because I thought he was sincere about change. Once elected, however, he merely continued Bush's domestic and foreign policies (i.e. more foreign wars, corporate bailouts, domestic surveillance, refusal to close Gitmo, failure to prosecute banker's mortgage fraud, crackdowns on medical marijuana clinics, health care reform that brought huge taxpayer subsidies to big pharma and insurance companies, etc.). I'll throw away my vote on a third party candidate before voting for Obama again.
They are older, employed and are now Republicans.
You could hardly blame them if they gave up on everybody.
i have not given up on re president i am serving proudly for this country, I believe in his case you cant change things in four years thats just crazy talk so far i believe he is doing a great job an i will vote for him in election time comes around i guess i am the 18-29 year olds who will still vote for him.
i have not given up on are president i am serving proudly for this country, I believe in his case you cant change things in four years thats just crazy talk so far i believe he is doing a great job an i will vote for him in election time comes around i guess i am the 18-29 year olds who will still vote for him.
Of course four years is enough time to improve things ....if you know what you're doing. Every recession since the Grat Depression was ended in less than four years....until this one. Under 0bama, things have actually gotten worse since he got into office.
Try this. Forget his skin color and imagine that he's a Republican, but everything else is exactly the same. Bet you want to see him thrown out of office, impeached and convicted, right? Well, there you go.
Did anyone go to work today?
youth for Ron Paul 2012
I wonder who the banks will be supporing in this new election? Obama is not as popular. The Republicans are running a circus in Iowa. Can we not find an honest American who values family and country before big business profts ad banks suppored by the Federal Reserve? We are in for trouble during the next term. I have already lost a substantial amount from my retirement that went to the 1% to retire – like they need it. Why did we bail out the banks and big business? Funny – as soon as they could Obama took a loan from the Federal Resrve to give us a "stimulus package" that we will be paying interest on – to a private company – for many years to come. Friggin mess everywhere. So – are we going into Iran next? Just waiting for another event to happen.
Just another arrogant politician with the most power of any human being on earth .
It's comical reading comments blaming Fox News for Obama's failure. The numbers of young Americans without jobs are factual. Obama has been in office for more than three years. Two of those years his Democrat party controlled the House and the Senate. Instead of creating an environment that would encourage job growth Obama chose to implement policies that hinder job growth. Why is anyone's guess. But the bottom line is that Obama failed today's youth. He can attempt to spin it any way he wishes.
The answer to your question, "Have the youth given up on Obama" is yes. The sad thing about this entire situation of the youth and Obama is that they looked to him or any president int he first case. If the youth of America would develop the mentality of Ronald Reagan that Government is the problem then they will succeed. If the president wants to help the youth of America get jobs why doesn't he get out of the way. Cut taxes for those producers of society, the rich, so they can hire. Deregulate the oil exploration process. Cut the size of government across the board by getting rid of bureaucracies which would lower the "need" for deficit government spending. Many of the problems we have are because the government has tried to "help us" and ended up getting in the way and creating unnecessary cost. Just leave us alone with taxes and regulations and we will have no problem taking care of ourselves !!!
"...erase all federal student debt for those with more than $30,000 in federal student loan debt..."
I paid my own way through the entirety of my undergrad and grad-school years and, to be honest, don't think it right that those of us who do that should, in addition to paying our own way, be taxed to pay for other people as well.
What I can suggest, however, might be a program that encourages businesses to pay off the education loans of new-hires, perhaps by allowing the businesses to deduct the cost of those pay-offs as a business expense. After all, it's the businesses who benefit most from better-educated new-hires.
I am sick of paying for other people's poor choices. It is thievery to take something of value (a house, an education, whatever) and then refuse to pay for it as you promised. While A home can be foreclosed and a car repossessed you will benefit from that education for the rest of your life, so pay for it! I don't care if you were stupid to get in the hole, in a free society we pay for our own stupidity. I should not be required to pay for anyone else.
That's the CHANGE that Obama promised!
Only foolish people voted for Hope and Change. How foolish you may ask? You didn't even ask if it would be change for the better, or even "what kind of change"???
Shame on the sheeple so ignorant as to be easily fooled by the leftist mainstream media.
Obama can only do what is possible with the GOP congress constraints that block every move he makes. You are fools to believe that it gets better for young people with a right wing GOP president like Bush or Romney. As long as big corporations and wall street control the congress, nothing will change overnight. It's a hard slough to keep fighting the big money and special interests controlling the corrupt congress.
obama loves wall street.
Sorry, that's a sad excuse about the Prez's poor performance. Democrats controlled both Houses his first two years in office. He had carte blanche to pass any legislation he approved. In other words, he and his party single-handedly failed America's youth.
That's right, I forgot all about that two year period of having Carte Blanche, right about the time that the left over repukes broke the world record for fillibusters. You're so right, I forgot all about that, yep it's Obamas fault. NOT, it's actually the dumda$$ voters that skipped out on the 2010 midterms fault IMHO!
I'm pretty sure the students who picked productive majors and tried are doing quite well. The truth is, college has become less of a place to learn marketable skills and get ahead in the workforce and more of a time of "self discovery," albeit an expensive form of self discovery. Additionally, the public is subsidizing this self discovery and providing student aid, regardless of academic performance and quality of major, and instead basing aid on household income. Consequently, this is driving students, who probably aren't prepared for college, into realativy easy majors at virtually no cost.
Some painful facts, there are fewer computer science majors graduating today than 30 years ago, more fine arts majors than science/engineering/math/and tech combined, and more psychology majors graduting per year than there are total psychology jobs in the US.
No, don't give students amesty. Change the rules. Subsidize productive majors and high quality students, and create higher relative costs for unproductive ones. The end.
Amused at the new liberal Obama defense:
Criticize anything about O and face this massively intelligent retort: "Been getting your information from Faux news, I see."
Fox is now the defense to all of Obama's failings – None of them are really true – they're just all creations of Faux News.
So silly.
Yes, the young are abandoning Obama and throwing their weight behind the Gingrinch who stole Xmas.
Why wouldn't the youth of America give up on President O-blah-blah? He has kept NO campaign promises, done absolutely nothing beneficial for the environment, made this country more dependent on foreign crude oil sources instead of developing our own resorces in Alaska and sold our offshore oil field lease to foreign countries, give our future generations a $1 trillion plus budget deficit, a continuing sinking stock market, ruined our economic infra-structure by increasing our outsourcing of goods and services overseas instead of raising import duties on these American corporations that would benefit their bottomline by producing inferior products in China, etc, etc. President O-blah-blah will go down in history as not only one of the worst Presidents in our history but more importantly one of the most disappointing because he ran on a platform of change and has only changed our country for the worse. DO NOT RE-ELECT HIM!!!!!!
voting is nothing more than public master bation.
I envy Obama: he seems to be the only person in the country whose performance is incapable of being measured. He can promise whatever he wants and if it doesn't come true (example 8% unemployment), no worries, it's somebody else's fault.
What a cool job.
And after all this Republican propaganda and lies, I will still be voting for Obama and the Dems will end up controlling both houses of congress...stick that in your pipe and smoke it, GOP...
Oh, and Tonyl, Obama had the Congress to himself for 2 years and things GOT WORSE>
How can we expect someone to fix the economy (i.e. help businesses get going again) who DOESN'T LIKE BUSINESS!!!
So silly.
I've told every young person I know that Obamas a liar and it's finally sinking in.
If you catch fish you make pork floss soup and then jello. Making sure u arrive at the airport just in time to see a plane taking off or landing if you prefer. Going to school and attending grade 6 should be optional whilst grade 7 should be mandatory but you make sure you eat the fish you catch. Pork floss shaped in the form of ham buttocks may help as well . This is my advise as a CANIDATE FOR GOP leadership.
I've given up on congress...and anything that calls themselves a republican
TRUE FACTS............check them for yourselves.....
The day the Democrats took over was NOT January 22nd 2009; it was actually January 3rd 2007, the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.
The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.
Whoever is listening to THOSE propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about these facts:
January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:
The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!
Remember that day...
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.
The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!
THANK YOU DEMOCRATS (especially Barney) for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment...to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!
(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 times to stop Fannie & Freddie – starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy). Barney blocked it and called it a "Chicken Little Philosophy" (and the sky did fall!)
And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA
And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY!!!!
So when someone tries to blame Bush...
REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007....THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"
Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch.
Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.
Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.
In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.
For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budget.
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. Let's remember what the deficits looked like during that period:
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.
If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
Your Obama hater facts are somewhat off the mark because you left off the most important fact. Verify it if you want but from the sounds of your gripe you're already aware of it but failed to mention it, which makes your perspective moot. Here ya go, chew on this, it should keep you busy for a while.
1) Filibusters skyrocketed under republican minority in 110th congress.
Actually no, you're wrong...completely wrong. Can you please name one filibuster done in the Senate under GOP control? Which, BTW, the libs have a "filibuster-proof" majority over.
The media spun it out to be a threat of a filibuster.
Typical leftist, getting your facts from the MSM.
Gave up long time ago. Obama's the used car salesman you only buy one car from.
Where's the "hope and change"?
I don't think President Obama is ignoring the youth, but it's a losing strategy to try to appeal to donors. Campaign money raised correlates with success only because when people give you money it means those people support you enough to part with their green, not because the money gives you votes. If the latter were true, Ross Perot would have won the presidency on his own dime. Votes, not money, determine the Presidency, so you'd better appeal to the voters at large.
You must be joking, lol! $$$ not votes rule this world.
Obama sucks
Try to say something intelligent – FYI Obama still has my support !
"Instead, erase all federal student debt for those with more than $30,000 in federal student loan debt and cut the bill by 10 percent for those with debts under that threshold" – What about us who chose to go to a cheap, state college knowing what we could and could not afford?? It's a bad idea either way, but I'd rather reverse that order – erase debt for those of us you were economical about our education.
"... those of us who* were economical..."
Not so sure about President Obama losing the Youth vote but I definitely know he has lost the confidence of many teachers and educators.
But don't their contracts stipulate that they vote for him?
All I have to say is "Indefinite Detention Bill". Now, any and all AMERICANs can be held indefinitely without legal representation. Probably cant blame Obama for this but he did let it pass. If there was ever one law americans needed to change, this would be it.
Obama, the visionary that settled for the status quo.
Please! the youth have given up on Obama because he has not been able to give everyone handouts. Thats why all of the liberal Hollywood types are upset because He has not acheived their dream.
The over 50 crowd is in the same position, NO Jobs, If you lose your job and are over 50, 55 for certain: your out of work permanently! never before, except with Obama. And that is white males, females and blacks!
Once he starts to talk again, to campaign – when he unleashes his speaking skills, his humor and his vision, he will reconvert any youth that have given up on him, if any. Given the alternative – grumpy old conservatives or slick haired flip floppers, the choice will be clear for youth. Obama will win another term. Like it or not, believe it or not. Done deal.
The young voters overwelmingly voted for Obama. Elections have consequences. You got the president you voted for. If he is re-elected....good luck in pursuing your new reality.
So wheeen exactly can I start holding this President accountable for a depleting economy, he's only been in office for 3+ years now and has failed on every level to save this economy thanks to creating money out of thin air for TARP bailouts and the 2 stimulus' (he wants a 3rd plus the jobs bill) which drove the national debt through the roof and is at 100%+ our GDP. Let me guess its still JUST Bush's fault right? God you Libs are stupid. And to the majority of posters on here, are your checks from the communist news network taxed or untaxed? And just to shut down your predictable comebacks, no I don't watch faux news.
You can hold him accountable right after you hold a do-nothing Congress to account and whatever is left over is his fault. And please spare me the dribble that democrats controlled the house and senate, because thats exaclty when the repukes got real creative and effective with the fillibuster and broke the Guinness record at the same time. Folks like you really need to take a pill and read a book!
Nope. Wrong again. It was a filibuster proof senate until the lifeguard died. But that's ok. Keep making excuses for your failed messiah.
I wouldn't worry about it. The Hitler youth remained pretty loyal
how clever
I didn't go to get my MBA because I felt the costs didn't justify the benefits. That being said, I would be in favor of student debt relief if in return I was given an MBA.
Yeah......ive given up on America. Not Obama.
Right on point, couldn't have said it better, thank you!
It's not easy to get enthusiastic about the lesser of two evils. But quite frankly, the GOP isn't exactly offering much of an alternative. The root of the problem is that we're not going to get any substantial improvements for the middle class in this country until we force our leaders to do some serious campaign finance reform in order to reduce the corrupting influence of all the money flowing into our political system. The way things are now, most politicians will continue to be influenced primarily by how much cash it takes to win the next election cycle.
I just read someones post here that thinks it's blacks that got Obama elected. How is that possible when they only represent 12.5% of 300+ million people? What got Obama elected and has him revered globally is the fact that he's cool, calm, collective and intellectual. His list of accopmlishments is a far cry better than those of Congress IMHO and the youth vote, along with females, LGBT's and anyone else with half a brain both white and non-white. Comments like the one I'm commenting about, no names mentioned, show a total lack of growth, understanding or learning from this countries occupants historically bigoted ways. For the record too, Obama lost the youth vote and a lot of others during the 2010 mid-term elections, which is why we're in the quagmire we are right now. No matter who the heck we put in the WH you can best believe they won't be effective if the house and senate opposes their every action. Good luck America!
What accomplishments?
The most important acomplishment IMHO was getting folks like yours panties in a knot...lmbo! Obama haters are a joke, especially when you want to replace him with Ron Paul....bwahhahahahah ( falling out of chair)!
-Doubling the Dow Jones since his 5th week in office?
-Providing you with Health Care?
-By keeping unemployment WELL Below Conservative Messiah Reagans 10.8%, without Ronnies ELEVEN Tax Increases?
By bringing home the Troops IMMEDIATLY after Bush's promise to keep them there through 2011 was met?
-By REGULATING Bush's Wall Street Bal Out and returning a PROFIT?
-By saving the Auto Industry?
-By getting Bin Laden?
-By forcing out Gadhafi without a full scale war?
-By drastically slowing down the 2.4 million US Manufacturing jobs that were lost to China from 2001 to 2008?
The repubs are right. Obama is so wrong for the supper rich. He fights for the middle class and below. He fights for the working American. He has my vote!!
He played all of us as fools. I voted for Obama because of his promise for change. BuTT – He stuck his nose right up the 1% rump and he will do EVEN WORSE if he gets back in. The worse president EVER.
He is the 1%'s puppet – VOTE HIM OUT – VOTE ALL OF THEM OUT.
And DON NOT vote for a democrat or republican – that's the way to send a real message.
Millions of students are still stuck with enormous student loans that we have no way of repaying. EVER.
The student loan system is nothing more than a Gestapo collection agency. Absolutely ruthless and mark my word STUDENT LOANS IS GOING TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY.
No one can afford to pay them back – and like the article says if the students of today can't afford to pay them back and can not file bankruptcy on them how are they going to afford to send their children to college?
THEY WON'T because they now know that college is a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME. I know I went and have $40.000 in student loans that keep growing and growing. They garnished my wages and my income tax returns – SO I QUIT WORKING. DROPPED OUT – No work no garnishments.
They can't make you work – YET.
If you can't afford to take out student loans, why do you take them out in the first place?
I made it through school with no loans and no debt. Two years at a cheap community college, military, worked while I finished my degree. Anyone who needs to run up $40k in debt to get a bachelors degree is an idiot. I know someone who racked up nearly $90k in student loans to get a $30k/yr job as a social worker (and party in Florida every year on spring break). Yeah, she'll pay those loans back in about 70 years ... or the government will raise my taxes to forgive her loan debt.
I am glad only 55% of the youngish (mostly girls and women by the way) have jobs. But I will not be happy until the entire US collapses financially and the useless baby-boomer generation suffers (it's coming)....
They vote for the change, they got the change they voted for. Why the rest of the people which are both victims of the change and have to pay the bills of those which brought the change should care about them?
I joined the military to pay for college. I worked through college, often with two jobs whenever I could find them. I majored in something that would give me a career when I graduated, and I finished school with no debt.
I met numerous people in college who took out student loans. They always had free time and spending money, and spring break in Florida. My spring break was spent working 50 hour weeks for a tax accounting firm.
Sure, take my taxes and give them to people who went $100k into debt to get a liberal arts degree, and soent four or five years postponing adulthood.
Nobody in their right mind actually believes that their will be an election. Mow that the Communist overthrow of the US Government is complete, the roundups are about to begin. All of this has been PLANNED, and it's TOO LATE to stop it. It's ALL FAKE, there IS NO POTUS, hasn't been for at least a generation. These are just puppets-it's ALL A DOG AND PONY SHOW FOR THE MASSES.
It's all about consolidation of power, in order to facilitate what the Nazis called "Liebenstraum", take the continental US intact, with the infrastructure in place.
Black America has been incarcerated, and White America is going to be ethnically cleansed.
Coming to a stadium near you.
Even many promises were not fulfilled, but Obama probably did the best what PACs and lobbies let him to do. I would give the President another chance just hoping he will finish his job for changes promised in 2008 without worry to satisfy his major contributors. Well, maybe it just a dream…But the alternative is much worse, they already build their campaigns on fears and threats... As The Guardian wrote today: “In plain political terms, resurgent nationalism, self-serving or downright corrupt electoral processes, and a growing emphasis on the politics of fear and envy – contrasting sharply with Barack Obama's circa 2008 politics of hope – will ensure the lack of inspired global leadership evident in 2011 carries over into the coming year.”
The headline is why he won't win the youth vote in '12. It was cool to vote for him in '08. It would be foolish to do so in '12.
Socialism fails wherever, whenever and however it is ever tried. And four more years of Obama will most certainly seal the fate of America's economy. We will have permenant unemployment rates near 9%, the real estate market will not recover and America's youth will have no idea why their lives are so much bleaker than that of their parents'.
Note to youth: A bankrupting welfare state is why you do not have a job. And the recipients of that welfare sit mostly in drug and crime torn hellholes. Their children attend the worst schools in the country. And this is after 50 years of Democrat local control of those cities. And 13 trillion dollars of taxpayer money paid into those cities.
You have fancy college degrees but your heads are filled with liberal nonsense. And time does not seem to be helping you to see the light.
If you voted for Obama you deserve to be unemployed and starving.
Obama COULD have been a decent POTUS if he had been allowed to do the job. Same for Bush jr.
The problem is the people that actually own the US Govt.
And it's NOT the American Citizen.
Unless we figure out a way to stop the current way things are done in DC, this train ain't gonna stop.
Does voting do any good?- not when the game is rigged.
It doesn't matter who wins the election, things will be the same.
If you control both sides of the conflict, you control the outcome.
OWS and the Tea Party are BOTH correct, when you cut away the fringe elements-Commies on one side and the Klan on the other.
Focus on the common elements, and you have the answers to the problem.
Follow the money trail.
The economy was crashed in order to line the pockets of the ones that have set us up and sold us ALL out.
They took the money so they can run.
AMEN!
The Government shouldn't do anything more! Every time they do something, it gets worse. For example, the reason college costs so much (and student loan balances are so high) is because the government facilitates lending to students. If they stopped, college costs would plummet due to lack of demand.
The youth put this far left radical in office, I'd say they are getting what they asked for. Nearly all of Obama's agenda is anti-business & anti private growth which says a lot for the lingering unemployment disaster. When everything is done and said, "Hope" will never pay any of the bills.
Shocking numbers! And blacks and the young are hurt most by illegal immigration. This is because they compete with illegals for unskilled or beginner positions. Illegals are effectively slaves so they get the jobs. Thank you Washington for betraying Americans in favor of Mexicans.
So while we have a crisis in employment of blacks and they young the federal government continues to welcome illegal immigrants. Those illegals who take jobs from blacks and the young. Not that Republicans are any better. No wonder many are turning to places like http://www.stormfront.org or nsm88.org. The latter is the only group protesting illegal immigration and the effects on us. It isn't about hate, it's about survival.
So by your logic the only folks in the world are blacks and illegals, boy do you have a lot of growing up to do!
What HASN'T Obama lied about?
Some of Tom's solutions will probably be proposed by those politicians who need to buy votes.
You can't just forgive student loan debt. That money was packaged into bonds and sold mostly to pension funds. The money has to be repaid either by the students or the taxpayers or else pension funds across the country will collapse. Is it fair to have taxpayers who paid off their student loans or those who worked their way through college to pay off the student loan debts of those who owe money from student loans? I owe $26,000 and I am making payments every month. I don't like it but I borrowed the money and signed a contract to pay that debt. The moral of the story is to get a scholarship or work your way through college and get a useful degree that can get you a good job. Someone who borrows $150,000 to get an art or ethnic studies degree does not have the foresight and logic to belong in college.
$6 trillion in new debt.
2 million fewer jobs.
The Muslim Brotherhood taking over the entire ME and north Africa.
91 rounds of golf.
That's his record.
But their parents and siblings and uncles voted overwhelmingly Democrat. This Christmas, their family and friends, including parents, 40%+ of whose homes are underwater(hello!), spent more than ever before on gifts. Most of these unemployed have iPhones, iPads, video games, etc. What does it take to force any sense of reality on them or their families? Unemployment of people who are over 45 who have been laid off is probably over 60% and still their families and friends buy new cars, go out to restaurants, take cruises, etc. What does it take?
Most of the solutions proposed by this article are laughable – more giveaways and more spending. Where have I heard that before? That's right, from every CO2 producing Democrat during the last 30 years.
That's called 'Greece-ing' the skids to eonomic collapse where the socialist utopians in Greece hasve already seen their average income drop by almost half with their Leftist greed.
Note to Leftards: Being like the Euro PIIGS is NOT cool at all. But you're too stupid too change.
Our country would be in 10x better shape if it weren't for the repukes sole objective, which they've admitted to and drawn up some BS contract to do and that is to not allow Obama a second term. They've already proven that they will take this entire country down the sh!tter to make sure that happens. I'm no genius, but this ain't rocket science either, if you don't see what's happening because of that one pledge then you are either dumb, stupid, blind, ignorant or paid to spew crap about this administration and further seperate America from real solutions. Furthermore, if you think any of the clowns vying for the WH right now are better for the country than what we have, then you dear sir/madam are delusioned and should probably be committed.
You're right about one thing – you're no rocket scientist.
I seem to recall that 0bama and the Democrats had it all their own way for two solid years, and 0bama and the Democrats still control the Senate.
'Repukes' – 4th grade namecalling is always really impressive. And making up delusional crap about Republian objectives goes over big with the sandbox crowd also.
People are sick and tired of the finger pointing and namecalling from the emotionally arrested Leftist crowd who have only made things worth with their ignorance and arrogance.
What happened to your hope and change? Lefties were promising great things by now, but they have failed massively.
Pointing fingers and whining for another four years to screw it up even more is not going to cut it.
Leftists have no ideas. Their crap didn't work and now all they have left is going massively negative and whining that they can't take responsibility for anything they did. Leftists are egocentric losers who never learn from their mistakes and have no real answers.
In fourth paragraph, it should be 'worse', not 'worth' and a couple other typos, also. Sorry about that.
Here's a non-rocket science rebuttal Concerned. Your dribble about what you recollect pales in comparison to the fact of what was actually happening in that two years when democrats controlled the house and senate. The damned repukes would've filibustered the birth of Jesus if Obama had offered it up. In all the history of America the filibuster was NEVER used to that degree for the purposes it was. You sound smart, so don't be stupid and don't think I'm stupid either. For the record you don't have a flippin clue where I reside in the political opinion spectrum. On a brighter note though and more realistically I am what you would refer to as a Proud progressive and that's Mr. Proud Progressive to you Concerned! Get a clue you phoney, the world isn't black and white, it's gray...nor is it libtard vs. repuke...smdh!
Christopher – what you posted is no rebuttal – since you agree with me that Democrats had total control of Congress for four years and still have control of the Senate, and 0bama has been failing and flailing for three years now.
I know how much you self styled 'progressives' love to rewrite history – it's the only way you think you can cover up your massive failures.
'Progressives' in general are very selfish, ignorant, people with excessively high opinions of themselves. They can't even give a coherent description of what they are 'progressing' to.
Well, I'll tell you what what 'progressives' have always progressed to – failure, destruction, collapse and human misery.
The 20th Century was the 'Progressive' century. You had your Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, Nazis, and other associated fascists and totalitarians.
"Progressives' have the worst record in human history of genocide (150 million in the 20th Century alone 1/10 of the world's population), repression, suppression of human rights, starvation, economic failure, etc., etc.
And you are apparently proud of the worst tradition of evil in human history. That means you are kind of a) not too intelligent b) seriously deluded c) ignorant d) something of a psychopath, or some combination of any of the above.
There is far more that is evil, wrong, stupid and aberrant in 'Progressivism' than in any other aspect of human life except possibly Islamic Fundamentalism – and guess what – Progressives and Islamic Fundamentalists go together like flies and feces, as it turns out.
I hope these are terms that even you can comprehend. There is virtually nothing about non-Progressivism that is as evil or wrong as progressivism. 150,000,000 excess deaths and universal misery due to 'Progressives' proves my point. You can blither and froth all you want, but 'Progressives' are the closest approximation to evil in the world today, except for perhaps Islamic Fundamentalists.
It's just plain tough being the self-proclaimed fourth best president. Especially when no one appreciates you.
We finally have the first President and First Lady ever who have attended a Flag Burning.I am sure all you progressives are so PROUD of them!
In 2012 we'll see if America's youth are smart enough to walk out from under the Democrat urine stream.
An head south for the republican/libertarian turd droppings, good idea!
We will see if they have figured out that it is NOT Holy Water!! But my fear is that Santa Claus is going to campaign on
student debt forgiveness or the hope thereof to sucker their votes one mo' time!
how in THEE WORLD can there be a story OR discussion, withOUT airing out the number ONE reason for this statistic? how is that so few people can figure out that importing over a million people a year from all over the world, has a demented and destructive impact on our employment rates? if SIX BILLION people on the planet ALL come here for jobs, doesn't ANYone think that might have an impact on our country? good grief we are brain-dead about this issue
Plain and simple 0bama will NOT get RE-elected,ONE Billion Dollar's Donor money for re-election is Now a L!e,each week we le@rn another age group or voting group that will NOT vote for 0bama. Hollywood and the UNION'S/Wall Street can't come up with 50% of the VOTE!
Hey kids, if you want empty promises vote for Obama, if you want a job vote Republican.
Obama walks on water because he is vaporous. I have heard from reliable sources his is, in fact, President Of The United States. "Honey; I shrunk the President!"
He seems to claim Mt. Rushmore Status as the fourth most productive President in History. Perhaps he might hope to be declared President For Life.
Norman Rockwell versus B. Obama
Hawaii. Indonesia. Boston. Chicago. Its not clear to me he even had so much as a paper route as a kid. A drunken wayward father, yes. A mother who seems to have hated her own country, yes. A wife who was ashamed of her country right through her six digit fake job was abolished once she was gone, yes.
A minimum wage job? I am not aware of any. Any Lefters around here know if the President ever had a paper route or worked counter at Burger King? Somehow I doubt he did any of those things.
So many have tattoo's all over necks and other body parts and things sticking out of the lips and faces that could be a problem for getting a decent job... Clean up you acts THUGS
The Obamessiah would like you to know that America's problem is his laziness.
“There is a deep down... I think there’s a laziness in me.” ~ B. Hussein Obama
Never fear, the POTUS has prescribed self-treatment for this condition which he experiences frequently:
"Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow..."
Barry Soetoro has no love America. He resents Her. All he is a shady Radical Street Agitator that was marinated in Communist Ideology and actively sought Marxists in College. He has surrounded himself with Marxists, Radicals and those that want to bring America down. Any to this day that support him are either ignorant or feel as he does and what to do harm to America.
We need to survive one more year of this saboteur; and he can still do a lot of damage in that time. However, his deep deep base [of dead and deeply buried Cook County felons] will likely not travel well to the neighboring States.
My Republican Poll Watcher buddy in DuPage County told me Republicans never sent Poll Watchers into Cook County. I somehow doubt this can be entirely true. On the other hand, having lived in Chicago Land thirteen years, it seems entirely plausible.
And just what the hell has Eric Holder got up his sleeve on B. O'Bama? In any administration that I can recall, Democrat or Republican, Holder would have been served up like Eggs Benedict by now.
The country is in severe trouble. The student debt situation is really a national crisis. Young people starting out with this kind of debt is horrible for them and catastrophic on the economy. These newly educated will not be buying houses on the cheap or cars and trucks. GM used to offer newly minted college grads great deals. These days are long gone as the kids don't have jobs or disposable income if they have jobs. 40 years of idiotic trade agreements have turned huge swaths of the nation into poverty stricken ghettos. Is is that bad! We need a total restructure. We must stop employing the world via our consumption and start producing what we consume. The current economic troubles facing America can easily be fixed. The problem is we no longer have a government for the people....
Massive corruption is inherent to Socialism. Think about it. Socialist governments pick favorites all the time. That's the only way their so-called 'elite' can validate their power.
And, don't let them fool you with anything they say- they hate the middle class, because the middle class is by definition not under their control and can challenge them.
That's why even though 0bama says he has been 'focused like a laser' on jobs for three years, we have an actual unemployment rate of 11% when you count people who have given up looking for a job – 3 1/2 % higher than when he ass-ended to the Oval Office.
Look at the jobs that 0bama is talking about – only government jobs and working on road crews. That's about it.
0bama's only success is putting more people on public assistance than ever in history.
I accuse Holder of racism. He has killed hundreds of Mexicans with 'Fast and Furious', all in an effort to expand government control of private firearms ownership. Obviously it's the socialist 0bamists who are out of control and need to be shut down.
concerned – Three years ago I would not have entertained the idea Feds would gun run to Mexico to produce tighter gun control in the US. Now it actually seems plausible. This Administration is like some sort of slow motion and slow witted nightmare.
concerned
This administration does come with a silver lining. No matter whether one might or might not be a Socialist, it is clear our Federal System simply is unfriendly to it. O'bama will evaporate, and everyone will want to put a boot up The Federal Governments Butt. Socialists and non Socialists alike.
I suspect the political climate will become more conducive to States Rights. Given the near biblical levels of malfeasance we have already seen. Solyndra had 1,000 employees, but managed to evaporate $500,000,000 dollars in a mater of months. Correct my math, but doesn't that come out to $500,000 per job LOST?
Socialism, is evil. The most evil and deceitful ideology in the past two millennia.
Sure young people are abandoning Democrats and especially Obama. Why not? He has put more people young and old – on welfare since... the Great Depression. He is the Food Stamp King and the Unemployment king and the generator of Hopelessness. As of today 55% of all young people from 18 to 19 are now unemployed. He and his fellow Oligarchy of Democratic party millionaires are stealing everything they can via crony governmental corporate wealth-transfer. He acts like he believes that he is the French King Louis 14th (aka the Sun King). A pox upon them.
This would be a problem, if America's 18 to 29 year olds actually bothered to vote in large enough numbers to make a difference, which doesn't seem to have been the case since 2008. Younger voters fail to turn up at non-presidential elections. So older people end up voting things into law and people into office at those times that may not be in the interests of younger people when younger people skip elections.
It really does not matter who wins in 2012 because things will never change. Ron Paul has my vote if I ultimately decide to vote which may not happen cause I'm just so frustrated with these political games. It makes no sense. I feel terrible for my peers that own massive amounts of debt, there's no way on earth that they'll be able to repay it anyimte soon. I have a friend who owes $49,000 that's backloaded with interest and it's very despressing to see my guy so stressed all the time, but he'll be cool, we all will.
Testing
Rick – You wrote: "Socialism, is evil..." I must nit pick a bit on this one. COMMUNISM is evil. Socialism is simply stupid. It doesn't LOOK stupid to the dim bulbs who believe capitalism is capable of actual alchemy. They seem to believe a goose will produce foie gras even if it is starved half to death.
During the presidential campaigns leading up to October of 2008, the national conversation didn't hover much around the country's economic health, but rather, the differences in social ideologies between the two major parties. Candidate Obama campaigned on the promise that those without the means to pay for the paralyzing costs of healthcare, can now get some measure of relief – that they wouldn't have to give their life savings or their homes to receive the medical treatment needed to stay alive. It was an example of the change we all seemed to crave. His republican rival didn't want that. Candidate Obama wanted to end the pointless war in Iraq started by his predecessor. His republican rival didn't want that, either. Knowing that a successful United States can not operate in a vacuum and requires global cooperation and collaboration, candidate Obama set out to elevate the standing of America in the eyes of the world. His republican rival didn't care what the world thinks. Throughout his global tour in 2007, he was greeted by millions of welcoming listeners and revered for the message that he delivered – that the American ideals of democratic freedom, justice and fairness continue to represent the last best hope of humans on earth. Something he intended to prove by deed, not just words. His message of peace and humanitarian stewardship earned him the Nobel Peace Prize.
(Please see next ethandy post)
Then in October of 2008, the near 30-year fallacy of Reagan's supply-side economics reared its ugly head. The conversation suddenly shifted to a shocking reality unseen since the great depression... a complete collapse of the American financial system, and perhaps capitalism itself; the situation was that dire. The answer the republican administrators – backed by congress – came up with... the $800 billion TARP. Like it or not, it was necessary. We would soon learn that deregulation of financial markets created this economic crisis, the affects of which we will be feeling for years. Any president, democrat, republican or anything in between, would have been overwhelmed by the sheer gravity of the financial dog's breakfast greeting him or her at the threshold of the oval office. Whose silohuette appeared in the doorway? Barack Obama.
The day after President Obama was elected, the Tea Party was formed; the president hadn't even taken office yet. The tea party – along with every other republican in both houses of congress – proudly announced its 10-word mission statement: make President Obama a one-term president at all costs.
On day one of his term, the president faced three daunting challenges: 1.) turn an abysmal economy – 30 years in the making – around fast enough to keep the country as a whole from descending into chaos, 2.) succeed at this while being hamstrung by a shameless obstructionist party who elevated the art of fillibustering to an Olympic sport and whose leaders spent all the money we didn't have on two wars, and 3.) keep his campaign promises.
To the 16–20 year crowd that took the time to read this far, please understand that the country respects you and expects you to draw your own conclusions on how we got here and who's responsible. But please know this also... that President Obama DID manage to keep this country's financial system aloft. His administration stanched the hemorrhaging of private sector jobs and, in fact, has posted a net gain in jobs during the last few months. That his policies made the market climate hopeful enough to gain numbers not seen since before it's value was chopped in half during Bush's last days in office. That consumer confidence is on the rise. That Osama bin Laden has been eradicated. That his campaign promises of an end to the Iraq war, affordable healthcare for everyone, and leadership on the world stage have each become a reality. And that his administration was able to accomplish these goals in perhaps the most hostile, ruthless, and utterly irrational political climate since the Civil War.
President Obama is articulate, compassionate, tough, sincere, decisive and thoughtful. He always holds this country's hardworking citizens foremost in his heart and will fight for them. You must ask yourself if there is anyone among the present field of republican presidential hopefuls who possess all these characteristics and has proven their worth by deeds, and not hollow critizisms of others.
I am a liberal. I voted for hope and change. And I won't give up on this president.
That's why your a complete failure in life...
Unfortunately, he is also clueless, inept, incompetent and quite possibly an imbecile when it comes to the economy and leadership.
He may be all of the above as you say, including a good husband and father, but he is dangerously worthless as a President.
These comments are not very convincing. Republicans have no solutions whatsoever. All they can do is run to the end of their chain and bark.
Ethandy-Go back to your Occupy tent after you finish taking a crap on the city street. Finish shooting up your heroin or smoking your meth. You drugged out libs and welfar parasites are a laughing stock. You Fuher is a miserable failure. The gestapo lib medil will not be able to hid his failures over the past 3 years.
O-BUMMBLER!!
ethandy = typicla lib dreamer.....good luck with that....clown
eth – Hope and Change? Lets talk solyndra. Five hundred thousand dollars for each of one thousand workers laid off. Sounds like a job for. Well, Romney. Its kind of his specialty. Rememeber Salt Lake City Olympics No offense intended, but I don't think Bama ever ran so much as a paper route.
Imagine Bama's Chicago crew and the Olympics. Wait! That actually DID happen! 'Bama took his 747 to Europe were his influence amounted to Chicago being eliminated in the first round.
One phrase summarizes these proposals – WOW. No mention is made on the cost of this. The fundamental problem with student loans is the lenders have no incentive to make sure the student is making an investment. They know that the gov't will back any loan to make sure they make their money, regardless of what you use the money for. I took out 50 grand in loans to get a PhD, it was worth it for me – it tripled my salary. However, those people that took out 100k+ to go out of state to study social work are idiots and I have no interest in paying higher taxes to bail them out.
Reminds me of a girlfriend I had back in the 1980's. She had a full scholarship to one or the other of the Seven Sisters [Ivy League]. But Noooooo. Instead she took out a student loan to go to one of the other Seven Sisters. Thirty some years old, $30,000 debt for a dowry.
I just hope you did not marry her.If you did,I bet she voted for OBAMA because your description of her is that of the
liberal mind.One thingI have learned from reading all these posts,listening to talk shows,watching the news,and just plain living under the current Marxist Regime is that they are truly wired differently.And their vote counts as much or more than mine(electorl college).The reason we are in the mess we are in is because these people are choosing the wrong representatives in Congress and those people go to Congress and get "bought off."Even worse,they put the wrong man with no experience who is not even a citizen of the USA in the White House.He came up with a phony
BC but why won't he disclose the details of his student scholarships etc? Is it because he was a foreign national?
Obama and the EPA.
and water are now cleaner then they have been since long before the industrial revolution. But Bama increased funding by 25% if I am not mistaken. I think they are taking on the horrid amounts of farm dust. No matter American Agriculture has gone to no-till planting over the last couple of decades. But you can bet you last Solyndra Dollar EPA WILL find farm dust to regulate.
If you allow students to file for bankruptcy to get rid of student debt then most simply would just not work for a year or so and live with others to discharge it. Bankruptcy before the 2005 reform was a joke..just pay the $300 to a lawyer and lie and it gets solved.
The median college debt in the country is 24K. At first that sounds like quite an amount but that's the average new car cost...and the average wedding. Last I checked we are pushing for more people to get married and passed cash for clunkers...
Obama won the primaries because he could say he voted against the Iraq war. When he became president the economy became more of a major issue...but it is stupid (quite stupid) for him to suggest that no one knew this was going to happen...Bill Gross, Nourial Roubini, Mohammad Al-Berian, Peter Schiff and Meridith Whiney all come to mind that did call it. Obama put the bets on his whole term on the health care debate...not a bright move in retrospect.
Obama even attacks his own base in calling police stupid and that the firing of teachers was "a good thing". There is no "bridge to the 21st century" like Clinton, there is no Great Society like LBJ, there is no square deal, equal deal new deal plan. Obama is to the youth of America what the New Monkeys was to 80's rock. It isn't a left or a right thing or a democrat/republican thing. I rather have Clinton back in the white house or even the first president Bush at this point.
I am trying to come up with a new, but more substantial criticism of the Administration. But its like judging a cotton candy machine at a science fair. I'm stumped....
I see so many Socialist Liberal Progressive Democrats (SPLD) (and, yes they are ALL the same stripe) decry profits as evil while saying conservatives have no empathy for the little guy.
There are so many examples that disprove this, but I'll mention two:
When an SPLD tells a minority he cannot succeed without help, how does that minority person feel? That is Affirmative Action.
When an SPLD says they will give you money if you don't marry or allow your significant other in the house, how does that build stronger families? Think Welfare.
Do the research. Think for yourself. SPLD are poison.
RON PAUL 2012
Who is John Galt?
The original John Galt was the hero in Ayn Rand's ATLAS SHRUGGED ...today he would be RON PAUL,,
This shows plainly the Law of Unintended Consequences. When minimum wages are raised during a recession to give young workers 'self esteem' in order to give politicians another feel good boondoggle it forces small businesses to lay off youthful employees or not hire as many as at lower wages. This is one big reason why there is such a huge unemployment rate among the young.
Partially..... but there is many more variables that just that.
Why do people with student loans deserve bailouts at my expense? I paid mine off. It wasn't easy. Now you want ME to pay for YOURS? You're useless. No wonder you're unemployed.
Havent embraced anyone. Gimmie a break. Ron Paul is the only one who gives a damn about us and the future of this nation, While the baby boomers and Silent Generation, got plenty of money and plenty of social benefits. All they care about is retirement and sucking from the system with their overblown pensions and jobs they will not give up. Now would this be considered class warfare or age warfare?
If there's any one group to blame for all of this it would have to be the gutless, spineless Baby Boomer Generation. Who let things deteriorate to this point starting in the late 1960's. It will be the Gen X and Yers who clean up your mess. And the mess is systemic on a world scale.
Well said Scott. I know, I was there!
What a rediculous solution to the unemployed youth problem. Your idea is to teach the young folks that they are not responsible for the debts that they contracted for. Spend like the "ignorant" that you are and than wait for a bleeding heart liberal to bail them out. My guess is that more than 50% of this indebted group were raised without a father and "literally" have never worked a day in their life because they never have seen a relative go to work each day not to mention that they never had a father to teach them how to work. Additionally, why would they want to find a job when bleeding heart liberals like you keep extending their unemployment benefits. The answer is to teach them how to work, how to show up each day, clean, sober and on time. The operative word is to "teach" them how to work and teach them how to be responsible. Lastly, if they contracted for the debt than they are responsible for paying off the debt-no bailouts ever and never. Remember the operative word, "teach".
Or put another way, the Obama Unemployment Rate for 16-29 year olds is 45%.
How's that for hope and change?
The article basically says Obama needs to buy votes by forgiving student loans. I say man up and pay your debts,
Maybe Brad has massive debt and is looking for a hand out...
What HASN'T Obama lied about? Anyone???????
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Obama lied about everything.
The top ten secret White House excuses for the poorly performing economy:
10. Obama not getting in enough golf.
9. Lady Gaga accidentally allowed to provide economic advice during first year of Obama’s presidency.
8. Obama never should have listened when Bush said, “Obama, wreck the economy.”
7. Evil spell cast on the country by Dick Cheney has yet to wear off.
6. Thousands unable to work after being injured trying to learn the Macarena.
5. Economic time bomb planted by Richard Nixon finally going off.
4. Bernanke hooked again on Afghani hashish.
3. Bo ate my economic plan.
2. Economy still reeling from failed 1980s introduction of New Coke.
1. Loch Ness Monster threatening to make an appearance in Lake Superior.
Source: Keith Koffler
Couldn't help but notice the author's suggestions on how the GOP could attract young voters consist solely of variations on handouts.
The new leisure class is made up of those that disregard responsibility and accountability. Housing made easy in MOM'S basement. The worst words in the English language "TAKE IT EASY". This new class wants to take no risk, put nothing out their of their own, RISKING NOTHING. and then blaming others when their therotical ship doesn't come in. The BIBLE gives the best description of what happens when you do not step out and plant your seed. Jesus spoke about planting and reaping. Sew nothing you get nothing. Get busy, get to work, be productive. Create your own wealth.
Youth and black unemployment are the result of Democratic policies, since the Davis Bacon Act and minimum wage law.
Obama is not the anti-Christ, but he wishes he were. He wants to be King of the World. He is the most dangerous man in America. A definite wolf in sheep clothing.
Kbs55 is on to something. The article bemoans high youth unemployment, then offers student loan reform as a solution. Who will pay for this and how will it help increase youth employment? If you want to get youth back to work, reduce or eliminate minimum wage (trainee or starter wage?), and reduce their government benefits. This would decrease the deficit and put people back to work.
It seems to me that partial forgiveness of student loans as proposed by Mr. Brad Chase in this article will result in serious redistribution of wealth. Consider a simple setting, there are two students, one decides to go to Harvard and gets himself into a lot of debt and another decides to limit the amount of borrowing and attends the University of MA instead. Obviously, the Harvard grad will have much greater debt and will benefit much more from the proposed in the article scheme, in fact the UMA student won’t benefit at all. However, the Harvard diploma opens more doors than that of the University of MA. So, effectively, the student who was responsible in trying to control their debt level will now have to effectively, as a taxpayer, subsidize the student who was less responsible in their assessment of their financial strength.
Harvard should be pickier, then, and stop accepting students who cannot demonstrate even the most basic financial intelligence. That will solve that problem – not. Of course, it is not going to be the Harvard grads looking to the American taxpayer to pay their school loans. No, it will be the average to slightly above average student who somehow got into an expensive university, when he or she ought to have started at the community college, or better yet, pursued vocational training, and who took on school loans that, after four years, would add up to 4 or 5 times (likely more) the entry salary for their intended profession. Talk about dumb.
Sorry diseased Occupy libs and paid Soros bloggers on this site. Your president is a failure. Your liberal mediia is a failure. The American people have woken up and do not believe the lies anymore. Except for the welare leeches, drugged out, violent Occcupy protestors and illegals.
Obama, Harry, and Nancy have been busy giving away the store working for progressive social change including free health care for illegals and hamstringing industry with regulations to try to push a green agenda. Honorable endeavors if we could afford it. He should have been helping business trying to create jobs. Here's a thought: Kick out the illegals and unemployment will go to 0%! Amazingly simple idea.
Now, after paying for their parents' Cash For Clunkers cars and their parents' foreclosures and short sales, I should now be expected to pay off these students' school loans via debt forgiveness? Why should I have to do this? Why should a student who took on tens of thousands of school loans in order to get degrees that are useless in the marketplace (if they had chosen wisely, they would be working) now get debt forgiveness paid for by the taxpayers? All these bailouts are getting ridiculous. Is there no one around, whether a bank, an automaker, a middle-aged homeowner, or a college student who can pay their own way these days? These are people with all of the advantages and they still need welfare in the form of bailouts and debt forgiveness? I am sick of it. Let them all go bankrupt and suffer the consequences. In life, you win some and you lose some, and the Me Generation, with their short sales and empty retirement accounts, along with their foolish college kids, rolled the dice and lost. But I bet they both have awesome flatscreen TVs and every gadget sold by Apple.
I'm so glad he's got a Nobel peace prize. Imagine what he'd have done without it. Anyone know how long till Obama attacks Syria to help the Muslim Brotherhood? I'd hate him to sit back and let the Turks/Arab league rip Assad apart without him.
Anyone who voted for Obama and has a job should immediately quit and give it to one of the 45% who have had their lives ruined by the last 3 years of the "we hate America" coming from the Whitehouse. Go live in your parents house in the hamptons and stop screwing up the rest of the country.
What a bunch of hate filled comments.......
Why should the school debt be reduced for those that borrowed to go to school? Many others have worked to pay there way through school without incurring debt. Others have sacrificed alot for their children to pay for their children's college. Would it be fair to reduce the debt of those that didn't. Why should government keep bailing idiots like you out? Get government out the picture.
What is the source for the claim that only 55% of people from ages 18 to 29 have jobs? The text for the statistic links to another article, but the article it links to gives no source for the claim.
CNN,
I love your recommendations–basically, give-aways. It's still Christmas with you guys. Wipe out debt, free money. Why not say the POTUS candidates should just hand out "free" stipends so they can travel the world? You fail to realize all of these hand-outs have bankrupted us. Many kids don't want a hand-out, they just want a president who isn't going to destroy their future.
-Jack
Have the youth given up on Obama? YES! And your point?
This is an amazingly horrible statistic. Obama must go, the sooner the better. I read how so many Democrats still support Obama despite the worst record of any president in history. The Blame Bush mantra has carried him farther than I expected. The truth is Obama is completely guilty of what the economy looks like today. If Reagan could overcome Carter's terrible economy, then overcoming Bush should have been a snap. Bush's economy was very good for six years until Democrats took over Congress. Even then in 2007 unemployment was 6.0%, and Bush's highest deficit was $368 Billion where as Obama's has been $1.7 trillion each year in office. There was nothing Bush had done to make Obama spend so much money, the economy wasn't as bad as Obama says. For America to still have 9% unemployment is disasterous. Obama's attacks on private enterprise has proved, socialism is still a failure. We must have a robust private business climate for America to be growing, the government can't do it. The sad part is Obama has killed millions of good jobs just to cow tow to environmentaist and he using the EPA to crush American's buying power because of increased energy prices. The only solution to this problem is to get rid of Obama. It doesn't really matter who we elect except Ron Paul for the economy to take an immediate turn around.
Here’s recap of Hope and Change since President Obama took office in Jan 2009. Comparing economic indicators starting in Jan 2009 to present day:
1. Federal debt has increased by 43% from $10.6 trillion to $15 trillion.
2. Americans living in poverty have increased by 16% from 39.8 million to 46.2 million.
3. Total unemployment (U6) has increased by 68% from 13.7 million to 23 million.
4. Price of gasoline has increased by 80% from $1.86/gal to $3.35/gal
5. Americans on food stamps have increased 42% from 31.8 million to 45.2 million
6. Home foreclosures per year have increased by 34% from 850,000 to 1,140,000
7. Total bankruptcy filings per year have increased by 42% from 1,117,641 to 1,593,081.
8. Median Household incomes have declined by 4%.
9. Average selling price of new homes has declined by 10%.
10. US dollar compared to foreign currencies has declined by 8.7%. [US dollar index of 85.9 in Jan 2009 to 78.5 in Dec 2011.]
11. US dollar compared to gold has declined 105%. [ $855/ounce to $1750/ounce]
Don’t know who Brad Chase is, but an article this candid would never have been written by a CNN staff journalist/writer.
The Money Manipulation making Debt Slave Nation! Make kids Debt Slaves forever and live off the interest as millionaires. Kids are too dumb and irresponsible to have a beer at age 20 but we'll let them sign there lives away with $100K+ debt and to go get killed in some carpet baggers war to make us rich! I borrowed 5K in 1994. I've paid back 20K. Sallie Mae still wants 13K from me. These crooks need to die!!!
The drones are out in force and blaming Bush! Yet, not one mention of the deliberate polcies that Obama undertook to undermine the economy and create a dependent society specifically in the age groups that the democrat socialists in this country need to sustatin them and keep them in power. The entire Obama campaign was flimsy rhetoric based on 10 second or less sound-bytes geared towards the robot minded drones now suffering under the regime of the most incompetent, in over his head, juvenile spiteful, resentful and quite frankly thee dumbest man in America! You got the government you voted for and since 2007 when the Pelosi/Reid cabal began increasing the debt blaming Bush gets you only so far, Deal in facts not myths and your lives will improve. It is time to realize Obama is a freak of nature and should never have been nominated let alone elected. Obama IS the problem and the dems who are not running for re-election in this cycle already know the tsunami against the democrats will sweep them out of power for a quarter century! They dems may start to embrace Ron Paul who is equally as insane as Obama!
President Obama is the most consistent, level headed leader in politics today. He is the leader America needs. The party of NO is the problem with Washington D.C. America needs to more forward not back to the 19th Century like McConnell, Paul and Mr. Magic Underpants Romney want us to.
Your all supporting the same system that has divided our country, bailed out the rich, let our economy collapse, brought about the biggest national debt in our history, built the largest and most expensive government in our history that contributes to the debt, got us into wars without a declaration and brought up a generation of people that think the government should give them the lives they want and they don't have to work for it. RON PAUL 2012.
Excellent analysis...nice to see a journalist who isnt drinking the koolaid !!! Keep on printing the truth... we need more articles to counter all the mistruths coming from this Administration. ..
The only answer is a return to protectionism. The USA – if it is going to survive – must stop the Globalist game. I have to LAUGH every time I hear some idiot spewing on about "creating jobs" and how "new technologies" are going to do this. It's a complete lie. The goal of new technology – from assembly line work to automation to paperless to the cotton gin – has ALWAYS been to ELIMINATE jobs, not create them.
The ONLY answer is to return to manufacturing our own products. Yes, the banking and finance system needs a complete overhaul as does the taxation of any activity – from currency trading to real estate speculation – that does not require any actual work. But those kids will stay unemployed until America can find a way to compete with China – which it CAN'T – because China has 4 times our population, an overvalued currency, and is run by a government that willfully and consistently violates free trade rules with no risk of penalty. We CANNOT compete against this. Only an IDIOT would suggest that we can.
The days of consumer bailouts of the economy are over. You cannot get blood from a turnip. This consumer debt crisis has been building for the last 40 years, and we've put off dealing with it as long as we can. I'm not really in favor of bailouts in any form, but if the MF-ing banks get a bailout it's only fair that consumers get the same. A student loan forgiveness act as suggested would probably cripple the government, but it would cripple the government for a GOOD REASON rather than just to bail out idiots. The economy is F-ed with a capital F anyway. So why not give some relief to those who contribute to our economy rather than just artificially inflate it and then skim off the top?
You guys all arguing be it dem or rep supporters you are all Americans. I'll tell you as an outsider , a person who is a Citizen of 3 countries what my view is when it comes to America. Obama got you the respect back that was lost when Bush was in power – Simple! we know the state America was in when Obama inherited it from Bush – fact is Obama has done his best and you can tell he is a man of his words unlike Bush and other republicans who are swayed by the rich . Citizen of Australia , Canada and Britain – Cheers.
how many Glen Becks, and Rush Limbaughs are commeting on this articles. amazing
America is spending trillions of dollars on wars. If American people want real change then they have to step up against wars and make this world a peaceful as it was before. American has no right to defend one country and invade the other. American has to stand up against their think tanks that make the whole nation fool by saying that they are fighting wars to make America save.
Difference between china and America is that china has no ambition to rule the world by weapon. They are ruling the world by economy.
If you don’t step up against real issue. No one will help. God Bless American People.
What is right is wrong, what is wrong is right – this is usually the case with many racists voters. I mean you reward a party that created America's worst financial debacle, squandered away a national wealth of US$15 trillion, with a Congress majority in the mide term elections!
This is incredible and amazing, America !
I don't think the youth has given up on Obama. They just want him to fight for the issues he promised to fight for during his campaign in 2008.
how about the youth have given up on Obama because he robed their freedom? by signing the defence bill and made the US another China?
From what I see, the today's "Youth" have not given up on Obama whatsoever.Many people still believe in him. What I hear man talking about is how the rest of the government refuses to follow our President. The real animosity should be pointed towards Congress and why they aren't willing to budge. The President is trying by all means to do his job but the way our government is set up, how is he going to be able to do that if Congress isn't willing to let him?
I think the question should be has Congress given up on the youth? I think the dysfunctional Congress has given up on the youth and the middle class as a whole. When you have a Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell whose top priority is to make Obama a one term president it is hard to work with senators like that. If the do nothing Congress actually does something maybe the youth will believe in Washington.
I still believe.
Lemme see...a student applies for a loan, his parents agree to co-sign and they both sign a loan contract which clearly states both the lenders and the borrowers responsibilities. If the student doesn't repay the loan according to the agreement, then the co-signers become liable...it has been such since the dawn of time.
Contracts are not re-negotiable. I am very tired of people borrowing money who they can not or will not repay according to the contract, and then whining to everyone in sight that have have been undeseredly dunned for the money.
Seems our housing crisis through Freddie and Frannie has illuminated this whole problem. The beat goes on...
Personal responsibility is an adult virtue.....grow up.
I've given up on Congress.
The youth have not left Obama. Take it from a 26 year old long time supporter since Barack was in the senate!!
"erase all federal student debt for those with more than $30,000 in federal student loan debt and cut the bill by 10 percent for those with debts under that threshold."
This is a silly plan. As someone with $25k debt, I'd have to ask myself, why not just stay in school another year so I can hit the $30k threshold and be forgiven? It should be a percentage reduction at all levels, possibly greater percentage with higher debt, but not as drastic as a simple line.
Hi,
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Here's a link to a project video, which will help you understand. I believe it was posted live the same/previous date your story aired. You must listen to the entire piece to understand the potential economic benefit to the people of the region.
This project adheres closely to the mantra espoused by Fareed Zakaria, when he states that Americans must produce unique items which cannot be outsourced ... because they have been individually created by those who have placed their stamp of authorship upon each item.
Thanks so much! –
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This is a good article. But, the President did try to pass a loan-forgiving program for college kids. Congress blocked it!
The only GOP candidate that can sweep the youth vote is Ron Paul. Romney sure won't impress us young people.
The president is trying to pass bills, Congress is blocking everything. I blame the Do Nothing Congress.
There is only one reason why some people do not want Obama. This is not because he is a successful man,but because the dangerous seeds that their parents of long ago planted in their minds.
Gone are the dark days. Let us accept that when someone is genuinly success, it is because that individual has passion for what they want.
"Have the youth given up on Obama?"... Oh yes we have! And the rest of the politicians. These guys are too busy looking at themselves as glorified rock stars celebrities, that they have forgotten about the people and history of a great nation they are supposed to protect. It's all a big joke, and it's on us to pay for.
During his acceptance speech, he reminded Americans that the economy is going to get a lot more worse before it shows signs of healing. I believe the former administration destroyed the economy more than when Clinton came in. The administration of Bush (Jr) fretted away more money fighting wars they had no business in than previous governments put together. American should endeavour to bear with Obama, who in my opinion should put his foot down in facing congress on programs that impact positively on the youths.
I am 32 and gave up on him 1 week ago when he signed into law the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens same goes for the 3/4 of congress who voted in kind.
جيفري فيلتمان نائب وزيرة الخارجية الأمريكية يؤكد اَن قادة العراق السياسيين قادرون على تدارك الازمة الراهنة في البلاد من دون اية مساعدة خارجية
نبيل العربي يحذر من القضاء على فرص تحقيق مصالحة حقيقية في العراق ويندد بتفجيرات الخميس الدامية
رئيس اقليم كردستان العراق يشدد على ان الاكراد لن يشاركوا في اي حكومة قائمة على اساس تهميش المكونات العراقية الاخرى
البارزاني يحذر من انه في حال إستمرت المشاكل السياسية ولم يجد الائتلاف الحاكم برئاسة المالكي حلولا سريعة فإن الاكراد سيقيّمون كل الاحتمالات
وكلاء المرجع الديني محمد صادق الصدر في النجف يحذرون من مغبة دخول عصائب أهل الحق في العملية السياسية ويتهموها بممارسة القتل حتى اليوم
وكلاء المرجع الديني محمد صادق الصدر في النجف يحذرون من مغبة دخول عصائب أهل الحق في العملية السياسية ويتهموها بممارسة القتل حتى اليوم
دبي-الشرقية 7 يناير: حذر عددٌ من وكلاءِ المَرجع الديني مُحمد محمد صادق الصدر في النجف من مغبةِ دخول ِ عصائب أهل الحق في العمليةِ السياسيةمشيرين إلى أن العصائبَ ارتكبت جرائمَ ومازالت تقتل وتُشرد وتُساوم وتَبتز.وقال عددٌ من وكلاء وطلبةِ السيد محمد الصدر في بيان ان الحديثَ عن المقاومة ومواجهةِ القوات المحتلة بعيدٌ كلَ البعد عن عصائبِ أهل الحق وأفعالِها وان العراقيين لن يَنسوْا ما فعلته العصائب من جرائمَ ومازالت تفعل من قتل ٍ وتشريدٍ ومساومة ووصفوهم بأنهم حية ٌ مَلمسُها ناعمٌ وسُمُها قاتل.. واتهم البيان العصائبَ بقتل ِ عددٍ من منتسبي الأجهزة الأمنية في النجف والديوانية بحجةِ حُرمةِ الانتماء فضلا على تنفيذِ 5337 عملية ً استهدفوا فيها الأبرياءَ بضمنِها اغتيالُ النائب عن الكتلة الصدرية صالح العكيلي.
Obama 2012. A vote for any of these GOP clowns is a waste.
Why wouldn't the youth give up on him? What promise has he fully implemented except putting us so deep in debt that it will take 20 years to recover. I can't blame it all on him but 3/4ths of it is his bailing outs this and that. No jobs, economy the worst it's been since the Great Depression, our military being cut left and right, no protection at all of our borders, illegals getting the jobs while true American's get none, housing at the lowest ever and that is just stating a few things that he has messed up.
What a stupid idea the author gave on pardoning student debt...He said that the federal government should erase all student loans that are more than 30,000 dollars but pardon only 10% of a loan that is less than 30,000....That is wacky at best. Why in the world would we reward the student who took more money and cant pay it back? would it not be a better idea to pardon the lesser loan? stupidity at its best.
Hope and change to a new president...
mr zakaria or what ever u are. i dont know how u get paid by CNN.we all know the truth. the prob is not Obama, the problem is the congress. so stop trying to be politically correct, and say it as it is. Obama 2012
I have lived outside the US since 2006 if not only a small part due to the reckless policies held by the Bush administration. I voted for Obama while living in Prague and initially was infatuated with his message of hope and change. Four years later not much has really changed. Most of the key issues he vowed to act upon he either broke or were so far compromised that for him to claim change is a political white lie.
Think about it. The US's image was completely soiled by the end of GWB's 2nd term. How much control did he actually have? With Rove and Cheney behind the scenes Bush was nothing more than a silly cowboy image people associated their feelings with.(love or hate) Most in the US and nearly all around the world grew to despise him.
So what did the US need? A complete presidential makeover.
Democrat or republican, liberal or conservative, they are all the same. Barack is nothing more than a clever marketing scheme. (campaign was named marketer of the year in 2008).
Bush was southern-white, hailing from a distinguished political family who happened to be extremely inarticulate.
Obama is none of these. His young, hip image showed him nailing 3 pointers and chilling with celebs in the White House. His multicultural background drew the attention of the entire world who labeled him the savior of America.
Obama appeared at a time when Americans wanted to distance themselves as far away as possible from anyone slightly resembling Bush. I being one of those Americans was proud to tell my European friends who I had voted for.
But in the end, how much different is he? He signed the same tax cuts which Bush implemented and to this day still has not closed Guantanamo. This man wins the Nobel Peace prize and turns right around and authorizes military strikes in Libya? Why not intervene in Darfur as soon as he assumed office? And now with his "reluctant" signing of the NDAA authorizing the lawful detention of American citizens without trial, he is nothing more than a high official guilty of treason.
The United States system is fundamentally wrong. Until something is done to get the money out of politics and open up the democratic system to truly represent us all it really doesn't matter who the hell you vote for. The policy of one president versus another will still always be dominated by a veiled group of Washington insiders who main concern is the well being of corporations and maintaining the status quo.
Obama is nothing more than a common branded item. If Bush was Dr. Pepper, Obama is Mountain Dew. Both contain the same amount of sugar and are just as bad for you.
Why should we vote? Really, seriously, why?
Maybe the youth are just living in a constant state of disillusion.
And I would throw my support behind Ron Paul, but I am left wondering: "Why the heck is he a republican?" I agree mostly with his views on the direction this country has been going, but then at other times his incomprehensible babble is reminiscent of Ross Perot.
So what do we do? Simple answer seems to ride Obama out another 4 years. But to tell the truth I couldn't be bothered to go to the trouble to send in an absentee ballot this year...
“The attainment of an ideal is often the beginning of a disillusion” - Stanley Baldwin
"The truly enslaved are those who falsely believe they are free" - Goethe
I hope your apathy isn't contagious.......
The youth? How about the old? Together we can get this guy out of our house.
Obama is destroying our rights. NDAA look it up. RON PAUL 2012!!!!!
The youth haven't given up on Obama – they just grew up.
Most people I know support Ron Paul.
Ron Paul is the one that is labeled "dangerous" and for good reason . He will cut back on the welfare for the rich with their military industrial complex . Vote Ron Paul the real threat for change and hope .
I am 15 and i hate how Obama is running the country right now. he should have never been elected it would have been better if McCain had won. Obama was too new and basically was not ready to be president. we need someone like Ron Paul in office
None of these candidates are fit to be prez.
All of America has given up on this failed president.
Obama has done for America what Zakaria did for Newsweek. Total failure.
I never quite understand why or when the idea that people should not be required to repay their debts suddenly became so popular. For every winner there is a loser. But the hidden loser is the principle that people should be required to do what they agreed to do – repay the money which they borrowed.
I've given up on Washington.
It's not that the youth have "given up" on Obama. Historically, the youth is, sadly, rather apathetic when it comes to politics. That's why the fact that Obama energized the younger voters in 2008 was notable. I belong to that generation, and I try my hardest to keep up with current news and the political atmosphere. I think it's important. I have to say, most of the Republican candidates are a joke. Romney is the only one I can take seriously. But I'd still choose Obama over Romney. For more reasons than one. But I wouldn't panic either. If I ever see a President Santorum or Perry, I would be frightened to say the least.
I would disagree. The Youth are typically the least apathetic - it's the older generation (just look at the polls of those over 50 where Romney and Obama take the votes by landslides) that is most apathetic.
It is The Youth that seek change from the status quo, and look for alternatives to the same-old-same-old.
The Youth also fit in with independents. Most Americans don't want to have to read on policies and stances, they simply get their policies from the media, which is extremely skewed and biased these days. EXTREMELY, including CNN.
Apathy fits more correctly when voters don't really care, and just vote who seems like the best personal guy, even if they are terrible at their job.
When you have a less than nothing congress it is hard to get anything done.
Obama is not the perfect leader but no President has been.
I'd pick Obama over all these GOP Bush clones in a heartbeat.
There's one in the GOP candidate that is nothing like Bush.
Unfortunately you fail to realize that Obama hasn't been much different than Bush.
I was 25 when I voted for Obama.
He's lost my vote, and it's with Ron Paul now.
Obama great president great man when my umemployemnent went out he extended it when i wanted healthe care pres say said yes we can so for 2012 its yes we can at the voters box. repubs are for the rich idiots who cant see that need a brain transplant if one is available,vote your pocket book and heart not your skin color dummies.Obama 2012 and Binden 2016, go america.
You say that the next Republican "waiting in the wings" could take the youth vote and I have to wonder who that might be. Ron Paul has significant support among the young, not because he promises them anything economically, but because he opposes a lot of the infringements upon civil liberties that were decried during the Bush years and codified under Obama. Other than him, no other candidate on the GOP side is going to offer the young anything because virtually all of their party's positions are geared towards the old, rich, white, and rural. This might be a weakness for Obama, but his opposition is not in a position to compromise.
*in a position to capitalize.
He never had many to begin with but the few he did have are on un-employment–
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