Have the youth given up on Obama?
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December 30th, 2011
09:03 AM ET

Have the youth given up on Obama?

Editor's Note: Brad Chase is a partner with Capitol Media Partners, a Los Angeles-based communications and public affairs consultancy.

By Brad Chase - Special to CNN

In 2008, the youth vote helped sweep Barack Obama into office.  Americans 18-29 spread the word on social media, energized fundraising and went to the polls.

In 2012, the youth vote is moving on and throwing those omnipresent “Hope” bumper stickers and t-shirts in garbage bins.

Not because of apathy.  Not because another candidate generates more enthusiasm.  Not because of his character.  Not because they think voting is pointless.  The 18-29 vote is up for grabs in 2012 because youth can’t afford cars to put bumper stickers on and those t-shirts are worn out from too many days sitting on the couch unemployed.

The sobering reality:  just 55.3 percent of Americans between 16 and 29 have jobs.  And earlier this year, Americans’ student loan debt surpassed credit card debt for the first time ever.

Rather than develop a lasting initiative to help young unemployed Americans, the President launched “Greater Together” – a campaign tool that offers community forums rather than jobs.  Rather than provide a bailout to those crushed by the burden of educational loans, his student debt relief program was pathetic – only reducing interest rates by a measly 0.5 percent.

No wonder less than half of Americans 18-29 approve of Obama.

It’s no surprise the President is ignoring millenials.  They’re too poor to donate to his campaign this election cycle.  Older Americans are 47 times richer than the young – a striking generational gap in prosperity that has widened from a 10 to 1 ratio when Ronald Reagan was running for reelection in 1984.  At the same time, Obama is ringing up donations from older voters.  In the first 10 months of 2011, he attended 58 fundraisers – twice the number President George W. Bush attended during the comparable period before his reelection.  That’s overkill when the GOP candidate is still TBD.

Millenials haven’t embraced any of the GOP candidates yet, but there’s a huge opportunity for the eventual nominee to swoop in and win over the youth vote.  They have a short memory, filled mostly with three difficult years under President Obama’s economic stewardship.  The Center for the Study of the American Electorate reports that the youth vote won’t come out strongly this time around, but there’s little doubt the voting bloc is up for grabs to the first candidate who offers up viable policies – not themes and slogans – to address their issues.

To win the youth vote in November, a Presidential candidate could start by:

Creating a limited student debt forgiveness program:  It would be impractical and foolhardy to create complete debt amnesty.  Instead, erase all federal student debt for those with more than $30,000 in federal student loan debt and cut the bill by 10 percent for those with debts under that threshold.  That still leaves students accountable – no free rides – but it eases the crushing burden on millions of millenials.  H.Res. 365 by Rep. Hansen Clark (D-MI) was a well-intentioned (albeit pie-in-the-sky) call for debt relief and it’s a good starting point for future efforts.

Controls on Predatory Lenders/ServicersMost students need their parents to co-sign loans and then take care of the bills themselves.  But private loan servicers like American Education Services (AES) have no oversight and resort to bully tactics to threaten students’ parents with credit rating ruin as little as five days after a bill comes overdue for the first time.  Not even credit card companies are that ruthless.  There’s nothing more humiliating and stressful to students or parents than getting harassed for short-term delinquencies.  There’s no need for a Credit Protection Financial Bureau, just more oversight on predators like AES.

Allowing Student Loan Discharge in Bankruptcy:  In 2005, bankruptcy law changed to specifically exclude private student loans from being discharged in bankruptcy proceedings.  Young adults don’t want the headache or stigma of going bankrupt, but sheltering private lenders at the expense of recent graduates is wrong.  H.R. 2028 will restore pre-2005 terms – support for the bill would be huge in generating millennial votes.

The ancillary benefit of student debt relief is a stimulus to the economy.  Older Americans might say that giving money back to the young is an invitation to run up debt again, but millenials have watched their parents get underwater with mortgages and credit cards – it’s the pot calling the kettle black to deny young adults their own bailout.  The stimulus will come in the form of solid and responsible purchases:  a first couch, a first bed, a first set of dinner plates.  This isn’t reckless spending, it’s the type of economic stimulus that Obama’s much-touted stimulus should have been.

Without the youth vote in 2008, the President would have lost North Carolina and Indiana – a 26 delegate swing equal to nearly 10 percent of the 270 electoral college votes needed to win.  The 2012 election promises to be closer and the swing of the youth vote could be enough to tip the balance.  It’s time the President did some soul searching on his feelings toward the youth vote.  And he better do it soon, because the GOP candidate is waiting in the wings and won’t hesitate to take the youth vote.

The views expressed in this article are solely those of Brad Chase.

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  1. tewrobert

    Here come the promises again ( Razzle Dazzle ) He didnt do it the first time and this is his last term and the term that he will go for all your throats........Don't blame anyone but yourselves

    December 30, 2011 at 9:17 am | Reply
    • tom

      And you think the conservatives don't go for the jugular also? They are all about power and profit, profit, profit, profit.

      What planet are you from, that you pretend that Obama is worse than the conservatives?

      December 30, 2011 at 9:31 am | Reply
      • Chalie

        Wake up Tom ........... you should not be able to be President just because you want to. Blind ambition and a freshman senator is not a presidential resume and it shows. His indecision is painful, his leadership does not exist.
        His only goal is to be King for 4 more years ........... can you / we afoord four more years of a man to is not qualified ? He is not respected nationally or internationally. Does he have his best interests or yours.
        History is sure to judge this presidency as a sad failure. Need real change !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        December 30, 2011 at 10:27 am |
      • Craig

        Planet fox spews...where its lies all the time for all time.
        News flash Obama cures cancer: Fox spews take : Obama kills medical industry
        You can't get through to a rock you can't get through to a repuke

        December 30, 2011 at 10:29 am |
      • mikaman3000

        Planet Earth. Please move to North Korea, it's obvious that your into Cults of Personality.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:40 am |
      • jb1963

        In light of the choices on the right I'll stick with Obama. We would be better off if they just sat on the side lines until we are out of trouble. Republicans are only good when we are in the black. It is then that they give the house away and everyone luvs them. Once it is all gone they be come clueless.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:42 am |
      • akibeel

        Tom, stop bashing foxnews and stop reading them if you don't like them; you're on the CNN site. Go to MSNBC if you want to spew your blind garbage.
        Obama is a joke, a bad one at that. We should be able to put a measure in place that any candidate that does not have experience need not apply. The popular vote is very dangerous, what would the country do if we all voted for Mickey Mouse and he won the election? I guess I've answered my own question since Dumbo is in office... dang!

        December 30, 2011 at 10:49 am |
      • j. von hettlingen

        @Tom, many things could happen within a year.If the GOP sticks to the current candidates, I doubt the sympathy they would get from the youth.
        If things don't look good for Obama, he could play sick and let his party put someone else into the race. Somebody more electable than the GOP candidates.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:21 am |
      • Dave

        I actually find the political arena amusing. Millions are going to love and millions are going to hate, no matter what person is president. Poll just shown on Fox News had President Obama as the most admired man in the United States with George Bush second, and Bill Clinton third. But yet people want to try and B.S. and say EVERYONE hates him. Having voted for both Bush's, I was tired of all the hate on the President over the years and actually hoped that things would be different this time around. Does everyone in America major in whining in school?

        December 30, 2011 at 11:29 am |
      • Gabe

        Oh yes because Bush was soooooo qualified.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:30 am |
      • Michael

        Charlie, he does not want to be King or President for 4 more years. He wants to be "Supreme Leader" for 4 or more years.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:53 am |
      • FormerLiberal


        Of course Obama is worse...he's failed to find positive and viable solutions to get us out of this mess, and he continues to endanger the rights of the people with restrictive laws that put government in charge of our daily lives. As a military officer, I know that when you're in charge, you're responsible for EVERYTHING that happens during your tenure. President Obama's presidency has been less than stellar and I do believe that change is needed. Unfortunately, the GOP isn't offering much of a challenge, and Mitt Romney needs to light a fire under his campaign and convince the people that he is a better alternative.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm |
      • LaVonte d'Ashawn Jackson IV

        Shut up stupid. Conservatives go for the throats of America-hating communists who are out to destroy this country. Ronald Reagan gave us the longest peace time expansion in the history of our nation. That godless, soulless, clueless reprobate Slick Willy whom all you stupid liberals so love even rode in on the coat tails of that economic windfall. You and your stupid occupy-my-underwear professional protesters just don't understand it. If you are too stupid and intellectually dishonest to admit the failure of Osama and liberalism, I would like to personally come take your voting rights away from you. May I please have your address?

        December 30, 2011 at 12:37 pm |
      • RapidOne

        Wake up Charlie–you're a lot dumber than you think.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:41 pm |
      • BC

        Hey Tom...Shut up!!! Nobody wants to listen to youre socialist garbage!!

        December 30, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
      • Bud

        pretty simple Tom... Profits equal jobs... jeeeese

        December 30, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
      • Hot Carl

        Take two heads of the same size. One has has thicker walls than the other, essentially allowing less room within the walls of the skull. Now stuff a brain into each head. The skull with the most rooms allows the brain to expand and grow, becoming wiser. The skull which restricts growth stunts the growth of the other brain, causing memory loss and stupidity.

        That being said, when election time comes around again, the blacks will "forget" what a lousy president Obama was and vote for him AGAIN, thus proving my point; memory loss and stupidity.

        Thank you. This has been a public service announcement.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
      • Ray

        Look at all the rhetoric being spewed by the lizard brains. Incapable of empathy for your fellow humans and only moved by the dollar. Truly sad that so many have such soft gullible brains that give in so easily to corporate propaganda. President Obama IS the most admired man in America and a good president who inherited the worst America I've EVER seen. Despite the stonewalling and anti-American tactics of the Republicans, we are now on the road to recovery.

        Beware the Lizard brains!

        December 30, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
      • mollyb

        I agree !00 percent. I used a republican, before Clinton but then I wised up and became a Democrat

        December 30, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
      • Ward

        Profit is not a bad thing. . . It leads to needing to produce more. . . which leads to producing more jobs. . .

        December 30, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
      • Ray

        Profits at the top doesn't lead to producing more. Only demand does this. Using profits to manipulate economic laws in your favor is what these people do. The destruction of labor in the private sector, trade agreements moving manufacturing overseas, low corporate tax rates, etc. We've been playing the supply-side game for over 30 years and it's destroyed our economy and made blue collar middle-class jobs extinct.

        December 30, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
      • Scott M.

        I think a lot of you people are on the wrong site... This is not Fox News. All of you saying the president is a failure, did he fail to get Osama Bin Laden? He might not have pulled the trigger but he did sign the order to take him out. Same with Qaddafi, though you all still think he involved us in a "war" (news flash: Libyan attacks were part of a NATO operation, of which we are a partner). And you may not agree with his policies (please, go look up socialism.. It's not what you think it is, and its certainly not what Obama is pushing), but at least he is coming up with policies, not just sitting around trying to get him fired like Republicants are and saying "NO!" to every single policy he comes up with. How about trying to come up with your own policies? Oh that's right, that would involve you actually having to work... Man you are all hypocrites and morons for buying into the republicans' BS... How anyone with a heart can support their policies of hatred and exclusion is beyond me. If you still, after all the crap they've pulled and the social inequality they've pursued, really think republicans are out for your best intersts, well there's really nothing anyone can say or do to convince you otherwise, I suppose. I'm sorry you feel that being progressive and trying to change that which is wrong with this country is a bad thing. I feel that your traditional stance is more destructive to our national fabric than, for example, letting two people who are in love get married, no matter if they are man and woman, man and man or woman and woman. Please, continue to try to take away womens' rights and continue to give millionaires and corporations free reign to completely destroy our economy. I'll continue to fight against hatred, hypocrisy and bigotry.

        December 30, 2011 at 2:04 pm |
      • Ray

        Scott, you are correct. But, don't forget, during the 2008 debates he was called naive by both Hillary and McCain for saying he would authorize going into Pakistan without their permission to get Bin Laden. If Hillary or McCain won, Bin Laden would still be free! And that's the fact!

        December 30, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
      • Jim Kirk

        Thanks, Tom. Obama is a great leader who had soooo much left for him to do by Bush. He almost had to rearrange the
        universe. Jim

        December 30, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
      • jekyllisland

        @Gabe – yes Bush wasn't qualified after going to Phillips Andover for high school, Yale for under gard & Havard for his MBA.
        Yes all his transcripts were made public for the world to see & you think he wasn't qualified, but you defend a guy we know nothing about who single handily destroyed health benefits for employees come 2014.

        Yup a company will be fined $2000 for every employee they don't insure health wise at a tune of $15,000 per year – saving them millions while screwing the average person.

        Face the Pres is a joke & the libs who back him are going to get screwed real soon

        December 30, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
      • david

        Obama is absolutely a bad seed.. plain and simple.. he is just bad..

        December 30, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
      • xCarlx

        @jb1963 – Are you kidding? We are in this economic mess because the democrats quite literally "gave the house away".

        December 30, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
      • SALUTE_ME*****

        @FormerLiberal We don't give a F-UCK if your an officer shut your trap mouth the enlisted are the ones who really do the work, stop trying to make it like you understand real military HANDS ON WORK! any way enlisted don't like officers your all are just a bunch of REPUBS & PAPER PUSHERS.. anyway GO OBAMA ! ! ! ! !

        December 30, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
      • Esther

        And why should I pay for your education?

        December 30, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
      • Sam

        Try to imagine if a Republican President had saved the domestic auto industry at no cost to the taxpayer, killed Bin Laden in a gutsy special-forces op (against the advice of top brass, who favored an airstrike), gaining a massive amount of intel, resulting in taking out dozens of top Al Quada with dronestrikes, and stood up to China in the Pacific theatre, not to mention fighting for middle-class taxcuts. Conservatives would herald him as the second coming. You folks are so funny...

        December 30, 2011 at 3:23 pm |
      • Sam

        Oh yeah, and was instrumental in Colonel Gaddhafi's downfall – the list goes on...

        December 30, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
      • runner305

        Chalie (or whatever your name is): you say that Obama is not respected either nationally or internationally? I think you must be thinking of President Bush. Obama has elevated the level of respect for an American President, especially after the Bush fiasco.

        December 30, 2011 at 3:36 pm |
      • Canof Sand

        Pew Survey: Fox News Audience Much More Balanced

        MSNBC trusted by paltry 12%. Fox at top with 42%.

        Study Finds Democrats Given Preferential Treatment by the MSM


        Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist

        Gallup: Americans really distrust the media (48% say "too liberal," only 15% say "too conservative")


        Now let's watch you spin ALL THAT with some banal contrivance about how eeeeeeevil Fox is cuz you saw PROOF on this one blog one time.

        December 30, 2011 at 4:40 pm |
      • concerned

        0bama is the worst president in US history. Leftists like you who hate economic competence (such as Bush Administration 5% unemployment and Republican Congress balanced budgets) should be laughed at or ignored. 0bamabots always get on their high horses to peddle the same submoronic collectivists crap that never works. Reality just does not register with partisan hack Leftards like you.

        December 30, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
      • ANNEP

        Pretend? LOL! Pretend?

        December 30, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
      • alnga

        those who contend to believe that their debt need not be paid off as promised will be condemned to die in poverty. They are already involved in moral poverty if not moral bankruptcy, their trail will follow them all of their lives marking them as undependable and otherwise untrustworthy.

        December 30, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
      • Buck O'Fama

        Tommy Tommy Tommy, Mommy should have let you play with scissors rather than let you near the keyboard again. Look Dullard, unless you live in a cardboard box and have no assets whatsoever otherwise you are working "for profit". It is not only the goal of every business, it is the standard operating principle since the beginning of time you jughead. Oh I get it, you wanted Obama to steal someone else's money and give it to you. The day will come when people like you get your face put to the curb and get a kick to the back of the head for your communist thievery.

        December 30, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
      • cd

        Tom, please coach me a little here,have YOU ever worked for a living or have you just sucked of the GOV'T your entire L!fe. If you pick a Life of work maybe you missed how they pay YOU,they pay YOU thru GREED that right thru GREED. If each business doesn't put GREED into the cost of the product you could NOT ask them something of GREED in return a CHECK. The worst GREED in the WORLD is a word call TAXES because it payes for the other worst thing which is l@zy @s s DEM'S !

        December 30, 2011 at 7:02 pm |
      • ND4Ever

        And what planet are you from to think that Zero has been anything other than a complete disaster for this country among any age grouping? The planet, Stupid. It orbits around Obama's Jupiter-sized ego.

        December 30, 2011 at 7:13 pm |
      • Notashamed

        Tom, you bash profit, profit, profit. Without profit, tax revenues do not exist. Profits allow employees and shareholders the ability and obligation to pay for our government at all levels. Unfortunately, under our current executive branch, the word is demonized and profits (and jobs) have disappeared. Profit is one of the greatest words in a free and prosperous society. Government jobs, which do not support themselves, depend on profitable businesses to pay taxes and employ talented individuals who also pay individual taxes to support their paychecks and benefits. Progressives idea of a just society is Government employees providing services for each other. Even China will not finance that charade.

        December 30, 2011 at 8:55 pm |
      • Rick James

        Spend trillions of Dollars? Yes We Can!

        December 31, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
      • obozosux

        Profit, profit, profit is what grows, grows, grows companies. Which, in turn, creates jobs, jobs, jobs. Good Lord WAKE UP!

        December 31, 2011 at 4:22 pm |
      • packman128

        Alas, I think we're all right but we must always choose between the lesser of two evils. Remember theses words....

        We'd all like to vote for the best man, but he's never a candidate. ~Frank McKinney "Kin" Hubbard

        December 31, 2011 at 11:22 pm |
      • International Opinion

        International Opinion

        You guys all arguing ,be you dem or rep supporters you are all Americans. I'll tell you as an outsider , a person who is a Citizen of 3 countries what my view is when it comes to America. Obama got you the respect back that was lost when Bush was in power – Simple! we know the state America was in when Obama inherited it from Bush – fact is Obama has done his best and you can tell he is a man of his words unlike Bush and other republicans who are swayed by the rich . Citizen of Australia , Canada and Britain – Cheers.

        January 1, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
      • Ashley

        And you think the conservatives don't go for the jugular also? They are all about power and profit, profit, profit, profit.

        What planet are you from, that you pretend that Obama is worse than the conservatives?

        I don't think this article was saying that Obama was worse than the conservatives. It was simply saying that he hasn't fulfilled his promises to the youth votes that got him elected and is therefore vulnerable to losing that youth vote. I have never voted Republican in my life and I think the writer has a point. I wish the democrats could put in a new candidate.

        January 2, 2012 at 1:53 am |
    • Ed in Rochester

      Right, because getting spending increases (absorbing student debt) is easy to get through congress, or the republicans will offer tax increases to pay for it.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:44 am | Reply
    • DAM

      ALL they need to do is play his 2008 campaign speeches over and over and over again on TV. OBAMA = LIES. He spoke how un-american Bush was for spending 4 trillion. He is at 16 trillion. He wants to raise the debt ceiling AGAIN, NOW, while congress is out. I think he is trying to ruin us.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:06 am | Reply
      • Jay C.

        You've been watching Fox "news" with their "fair and balanced" coverage, haven't you?

        December 30, 2011 at 10:31 am |
      • Craig

        The debt ceiling has been raised eighteen times under reagan, seven times during bush sr, four times under clinton, seven times during bush jr. and three for obama
        For the last thirty years, republitards have raised it a total of THIRTY TWO TIMES to Democrat's six.
        WHO's spending is out of control? Its NOT democrats....It NEVER WAS

        Carter decreased the debt by 3.3%
        Reagan increased the debt by 20.6%
        Bush sr increased the debt by 15.0%
        Clinton decreased the debt by 9.7%
        Bush jr increased the debt by 27.1%

        1978-2005 Democratic
        Spending:9.9% increase
        1978-2005 Republican
        Spending:12.1% increase

        December 30, 2011 at 10:32 am |
      • jb1963

        Hey is your real name Glen Beck?

        December 30, 2011 at 10:47 am |
      • ABC123

        You are incorrect sir, the real numbers are: George W. Bush’s policies: $7 trillion in debt; Barack Obama’s policies: $1.4 trillion. This is information off the U.S. National Debt Chart.

        The total national debt is just over 15 trillion (www.usdebtclock.org/)

        The national debt increased $4.9 trillion during the eight-year presidency of George W. Bush. The latest posting by the Treasury Department shows the national debt has now increased $4 trillion on President Obama's watch. However, the major contributors to national debt during Obama's presidency were originated under George W Bush (Wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Extension of Bush Era Tax Cuts, 2008 stimulus including TARP, plus various other Bush era policies)

        Obama meanwhile had to pull the country away from the brink of the abyss immediately upon taking office so accrued 400 billion in one-time emergency costs and spending. Plus, in Dec 2010 Obama spent another 250 billion on middle class tax cut deal. Add in another 800 billion from the Recovery Act, and you have a basic overall account of Obama's impact on the national debt vs. Bush.

        Basic Keynesian Principle is that debt reduction should occur during boom time whereas increased government spending during a recession is necessary to stimulate the economy. This can be shown most dramatically in history with the Great Depression which was followed by the Post World War II Boom time which was created mainly due to massive government spending on the war created lots of jobs and put money in the pockets of working and middle class.


        December 30, 2011 at 11:10 am |
      • Marc

        Be careful Craig, you are spewing substantiated facts, an unheard of tactic for the standard cynical republican mind. It's like being in the darkness for too long, you can only take in light gradually or else be blinded by it. Perhaps next time you can add a hint of fear, a dash of apathy and a cup of BS so it seems more familiar. Only then can you SLOWLY insinuate facts and reality.

        P.S. I am happy there are still people like us out there.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:15 am |
      • yo - Craig

        Here are the real numbers:

        Carter increased the debt by 31.5%
        Reagan decreased the debt by 1.7%
        Bush sr decreased the debt by 4.5%
        Clinton increased the debt by 35.8%
        Bush jr decreased the debt by 9.5%
        Obama increased debt by 58.3%

        December 30, 2011 at 12:07 pm |
      • Dan, TX

        Yo-Craig. The numbers you give are total rubbish and demonstrably false. Reagan reduced our debt? What are you smoking?

        December 30, 2011 at 12:23 pm |
      • Yo - yo - Craig

        Did you get these numbers from FOX NEWS???

        yo – Craig

        Here are the real numbers:

        Carter increased the debt by 31.5%
        Reagan decreased the debt by 1.7%
        Bush sr decreased the debt by 4.5%
        Clinton increased the debt by 35.8%
        Bush jr decreased the debt by 9.5%
        Obama increased debt by 58.3%

        December 30, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
      • FormerLiberal

        @ Jay C.

        And CNN is fair and balanced, right? CNN is a liberal leaning news source. It's sad that the American press has lost it's impartiality. These days you have to choose to either be bombarded by the right or the left, there is no middle ground.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:29 pm |
      • jekyllisland

        Be careful Marc libtards are known to be liars & apparently those numbers are false yet again. How can libs be so dumb? it must be a disease

        December 30, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
      • david

        You are right.. Obama is in the Destruction of america Plan.. People who are so blinded as to see this are just idiots

        December 30, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
      • jekyllisland


        December 30, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
      • Ed

        Interesting accounting. You only hold Bush to the amount (incorrect by the way) that he raised the debt, and then you turn around and hold Obama for the entire debt (even Bush's portion and the debt that pre-existed him). Conservative math at its best.

        December 30, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
      • Canof Sand

        1) FNC's "fair and balanced" coverage is PROVEN by all credible nonpartisan studies and polls that could indicate such one way or the other. Studies and polls done every year. Or are Gallup, Harvard, UCLA, and the Project for Excellence in Journalism all "conservative" liars to you, Leftist hacks?

        2) Your Reagan and the debt ceiling argument is intellectually dishonest. It is a red herring.

        Who owns the debt-ceiling issue again?

        Some Facts About the Debt Limit
        FTA: "The chart also responds implicitly to some recent Democratic Party talking points. The Democrats like to point out that the ceiling was raised 18 times during the Reagan administration. That’s right, an average of about once every six months. In other words, those increases were small and highly temporary, as you can see from the chart. It is also noteworthy that the total increase in the debt ceiling during the Reagan years was almost exactly equal to the increase in the debt ceiling during the Clinton administration. Neither, however, is in the same universe with the spiraling debt the Democrats have racked up since they took control of Congress in 2007."

        December 30, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
      • ZykPysk

        Fact – the greatest rise in domestic debt has occurred under the watch of a democrat controlled congress. Who votes on raising the debt ceilings? Thats right. Back to school liberal idiots.

        December 31, 2011 at 6:30 am |
    • zookz

      Razzle Dazzle is absolutely correct! Now, after three years of Teh Once, the only arguement the diehard and blinded can come up with is "he's better than the Republicans". The lesser of two evils is still evil! You'd think they'd be willing to have someone with a tried and true credible track record primary Obama.

      And, by the way, while everyone is blaming Republicans for blocking Obama, he had two years of a Democratic majority, and what did he do? He rewarded wall street, banks, auto, and big pharma. Even Pelosi said he could have had single payer but didnt argue for it. Then Obama pretended that single poayer was still on the table even though it wasnt, according to Daschille. Vote for a liar, get lies. Vote for inexperience, get chaos. Vote this loser out. PRIMARY OBAMA.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:22 am | Reply
      • Craig

        Yes and a filibuster with each and EVERY bill.
        The way it is now only ONE REPUKE can hold the entire congress hostage and they DID EVERY TIME.
        Here is a fact for you: In the last three years filibuster rates have reached an all time high in ALL OF HISTORY to DOUBLE the previous record.
        That is all due the desperate and pathetic attempts of repukes to hold up a black president that was elected by a landslide election.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:35 am |
      • T.A. Martin

        Didn't I read this exact same post under two or three other articles?


        Yes. Yes I did.

        Learn to do something other than 'cut-n-paste.'

        December 30, 2011 at 10:54 am |
      • Marc

        Cut and paste is better than posting comments that have nothing to do with the subject and serves only to critisize an informed opinion. Crap, I think I just did it myself, except my target is most likely uninformed.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:21 am |
      • BC

        You are 100% correct! But the problem is all of these Lib idiots cant get past the fact that hes a failure and socilaism doesnt work in AMERICA!

        December 30, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
      • Tony

        Your comment just proves your ignorance. Our president is NOT BLACK. He is bi racial. His mother is very much white and was born in Kansas. It would make just as much sense to say we have a white president right? Lets face it, black or white, republicans hate him becuase he is inexperienced and democrats hate him becuase he makes them all look bad. Name one good policy he has set it stone? How about operation Fast and Furious?? Do some research on that and start loving your democratic leaders even more lol

        December 30, 2011 at 2:04 pm |
    • scotty

      The only change obama has brought, are on what he said he was going to DO!!!

      December 30, 2011 at 10:28 am | Reply
    • DADT

      He is doing great job for Illegalls – Why don't you like him. He even created a hotline for detained illegal criminals who "feel like they are US citizens". What a joke. Every illegall "feels" llike a citizen.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:32 am | Reply
      • BC


        December 30, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • DADT

      He approved Vi_olence Ag_ainst Wom_en ACT which gives Gre_en Cards left and right to Russian illega_lls.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:37 am | Reply
      • DADT

        He approved DREAM ACT for the young illegalls – you HAVE to love him. Obama – do you remember us – we are regular US citizens. We still live in the US.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:38 am |
      • RapidOne

        you're a loser who only focuses on your hate and thinks they are informed. Too many idiots today thinking they are educated when they ONLY listen to right wing radio or read or watch only Fox News. The destroyer of democracy–IDIOCRACY.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
      • StopLying

        "Idiot" isn't a name. It's an adjective. Idiot.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
      • Sam

        Ummmm...."idiot" is a noun, idjit.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
      • sixer6josh6

        Ineptocracy – a sustem of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid fo rby the cofiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers...

        December 30, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
      • Leprakawn

        @Sam; @sixer6josh6:

        Good job on your spelling, you two. ______ (Fill in the blank for any noun you want to use.)

        December 30, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
      • sixer6josh6

        I say that and all you can do is make fun of how I didn't proofread my comment before I posted it?!

        December 30, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
    • Patrick

      So the choice is broken promises with limited attempts to do the right thing in some cases vs. conservative pushing for policies that continue to destroy the middle class and drive wages down. A significant number will go for the conservative choice – Obama will win them over, but it should be easy for Obama. He has no one but himself for this difficulty.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:40 am | Reply
      • Sam

        So, Republicans are destroying the middle-class? Yer a moonbat and have zero clue. Maybe you'll get promoted to head fry boy someday.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • robert Jones

      i can not understand how republicans with no money can blindly follow the wealthy ones who do not care about you either / at least obama didnt kill our troops in Iraq to make a profit

      December 30, 2011 at 11:00 am | Reply
      • Marc

        Fear is a powerful thing especially when used against children.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:23 am |
      • Christopher Yoder

        What profit? Yes, we did have to use Private Military Companies (PMC) because the Democrats under Clinton slashed defense spending. If we hadn't done that then there would have been no need for the PMC's. Of course, you may mean the completely false accusation "blood for oil" which there was no such thing. Gas prices have risen and stayed high which they wouldn't have if we went into Iraq for oil. History does not support your position. Use the rational function of your brain which has been bequeathed to you for that purpose instead of being a brainwashed slave to the liberal agenda.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
      • RapidOne

        Christopher Yoder - you didn't answer or rebut your target at all. Don't you feel stupid now? I bet you still don't... sigh...

        December 30, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
      • BC

        @ROBERT JONES............Keep drinking that koolaid...obamabot!!

        December 30, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
      • Christopher Yoder

        @rapid one. Given your lack of any credible rebuttal I will assume you have none.

        December 30, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
      • David Rapalyea

        robert Jones – You wrote: "..i can not understand how republicans with no money can blindly follow the wealthy ones who do not care about you either / at least obama didnt kill our troops in Iraq to make a profit..."

        Does the phrase "Scientific Materialism" mean anything to you? I completely understand why dopes like you think like you do. Its all about envy, resentment, and jealously for you guys. I have never met one of you who does not think he deserves more money from people who have more money then you do.

        It is childish, stunted version of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. You seem very very needy.

        December 30, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
    • Joe

      Are you naturally stupid or do you have to work at it?

      December 30, 2011 at 11:00 am | Reply
      • Marc

        Unlike you Joe, he had to work at it.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:22 am |
      • Shari Sampson


        You must have butter on the brain or a really bad case of OCD....or you are one of the receipients of his unstable programs that are making this country broke. When you get a little older, you'll understand what all the fuss is about. I have to agree with "James Dean"

        December 30, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • Oh Really?

      For those blaming this all on Obama, try to watch something besides FOX. If you had any sense, you would see that the US Government is broken. The Republicans have done everything they can to block ANY legislation not their own. As recently as a week ago, they agreed to the payroll tax extension that would help working people, then changed their minds and said "no", then, when they realized what a buch of horses A$$es they looked like, they agreed again. Obama has not been all we hoped he would be, but it has been in large part due to the childish tantrums Bohener and others have thrown, and yet, they have no solutions of their own that would work. It never ceases to amaze me how working class people can back Republicans who are very clear that they are for big business, and really couldn't give a rat's butt about middle class working people.

      December 30, 2011 at 11:23 am | Reply
      • Tao

        The poor continue to vote against their own well being b/c the ruling class have had them distracted since the beginning of time with made up religions which encourage them to be acceptive of living in poverty. It's amazing what people will do for empty promises.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:47 am |
      • Dave

        The Republicans won't be able to unite behind any of potential republican nominees. Not even the conservative radio and Fox News hosts can enthusiastically support any of the candidates. Mitt will probably win the nomination, but is too liberal for tea party conservatives. Former President George Bush publically came out to say he can't support Newt. That should headline the Dem's commercials if Newt is nominated. And the Republican base calls Ron Paul a whacko, especially when it comes to foreign policy and his stance that Israel perhaps shouldn't be a country. After all the attacks ads within the Republican Party, the Dems have little to do but sit back and watch.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:48 am |
      • Yes, really

        Yep – Obama's fault. end of story.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
      • Christopher Yoder

        And the Democrats have never filibustered the Senate?? The plain and simple truth is that it is a tactic used by both parties and is not something used exclusively by the GOP. Get your facts straight and stop living as a mental slave to the liberal agenda. Stop parroting what the DNC tells you to parrot and actually think for yourself. That is what the liberals fear more than the GOP or conservatives but a populace that can think for themselves because that removes them from their position of power over the brainwashed masses of the country who support them.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:20 pm |
      • Yo - yo - Craig

        Christopher Yoder – you are the poster child for people who are brainwashed. Get out of the kool-aid before you drown in it...

        December 30, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
      • RapidOne

        You can tell that Christopher Yoder is a mindless slave because he throws around the 'L' word over an over again, foaming at the mouth like an idiot. Get it straight, Mr. Yoder–WE AREN'T NECESSARILY LIBERAL OR DEMOCRAT, BUT SIMPLY SEE WHAT GARBAGE THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING.

        You just assume and call us libs and dems because your arguments are garbage and you have nothing to stand on.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
      • Tony

        Oh Really?
        The democrats came out with a kindergarten grade policy for a 2 month extension
        The republicans wanted a more complex plan that would hold strong for 1 year
        The democrats wanted to pass their little bill so they could all go home early for the holidays.
        The republicans know that Americans wanted a real bill passed for their well being, not just a 2 month slap in the face

        Who really cares about the people?

        December 30, 2011 at 2:12 pm |
      • rch46

        No I blame Harry Reid.

        December 30, 2011 at 2:14 pm |
      • Jess C

        Thanks for stating what is obvious to most of us who aren't FOX Noise

        December 30, 2011 at 3:16 pm |
      • 2tor

        "The Republicans have done everything they can to block ANY legislation not their own."

        .. and how many of the almost 30 bills sent to the senate was brought to the floor? Not one. you simple minded, one sided ignoramuses are a trip. How do you all exist in the age of information?

        December 30, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
      • Kelvin

        You clearly are as clueless as our incompetent Marxist president.
        The Republican led House has put forth no less than 17 bills to generate jobs. Every single one of them has been held up in the Democrat Senate, which has failed to even bother to pass a budget in almost 1000 days.
        Read something besides CNN and Daily Kos.

        December 31, 2011 at 8:15 am |
    • Blaffer Divide

      Yea, EVERYONE has given up on obama. And VERY FEW even had any stake in him to begin with.

      December 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Reply
      • KK Denver

        How will you explain his resounding re-election?

        December 30, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
      • lee harris jr.

        Obama is great american great pres ,when my unemploymnent was running out he said extend it repubs said no let him starve and sit in the cold and dark politics has to do more for me than satisfiy my ego i want real help like health care and money, so once a gain to al the stupid ego driven haters out there yes we can 2012.Obama 4 more years and then let biden take it from there thats real.

        January 18, 2012 at 2:59 am |
    • Jimmy Cracorn

      I have given up on any politician who voted to indefinitely detain american citizens without charge or a lawyer.

      December 30, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Reply
      • D

        In complete agreement with you. This bill was the one that sent me over the edge, I will not vote for anyone who supports oppressive polices like this. I will never vote Republican, but after this I don't think I will ever vote Democrat again either.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • Tom's Mom

      Conservatives are so stupid. Their base has virtually no money and they want to give it to the wealthy, then blame liberals for their woes. Conservative – look up the definition. We'd still have slavery and no women's suffrage if they had won in the 1860s and 1920. Moronic is a more accurate term.

      December 30, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Reply
      • JR

        Apparently you missed the section of history where a Republican freed the slaves. Or maybe the part where LBJ vehemently opposed the Civil Rights Act before becoming president (which came from the Republicans and Eisenhower) and then as soon as he became president pushed it into law for the votes. It's no secret that he had stated that he pushed it so that blacks would "vote for Democrats for generations." Oh or how about when FDR began SS and openly admitted that it was a bad policy but good politics. Stop the propaganda please. Thanks.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
    • PK

      What makes you think that?Youth will be there when it's time to vote! That's all that counts. Once the GOP chooses the least of all the evils running, Obama will take it. He has the steering wheel and has been experiencing such heavy traffic on both sides of the highway.But once he hits the clear roads he will drive straight ahead to his destination. Maybe even the GOP will catch on to the fact that, when you give the PEOPLE what they need instead of trying to get a man out of office, things might look up.

      December 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Reply
      • Sam

        Did you get that from an OWS meeting or a chinese fortune cookie?

        December 30, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
    • Scott

      Calm down, everyone. Obama's not great, but the sky is not falling. Vote for who you think makes sense. During Bush's two terms the liberals all cried that he's ruining the country... now the conservatives cry that Obama's ruining the country. Save the drama for your mama. Intelligent debate is better than hysterics.

      December 30, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Reply
    • Lavonte's Mom

      Uh, Lavonte, are you so idiotic as to not realize there was a President between Reagan and Clinton? Where was the windfall then? Or how about the fact RR passed the largest tax increase during peacetime in history? WOW!

      December 30, 2011 at 12:46 pm | Reply
    • rafly

      How do u like to be president? Palin? Paul? Gingrich? Romney? or bless your heart the black republican Cain?????
      They are all laughable

      December 30, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Reply
    • Chut Pata

      Dubya with a tan and a higher I.Q. Millions of us contributed billions so that he may not end up being just another corporate spokesman like Republicans or Hillary Clinton, but he did. But you are right. It is our fault that we gave a Senate and Congress who were corporate spokesmen. So I guess it was he who gave up on us. Then we have a supreme court that say corporate bodies have same rights as humans, so they can contribute whatever they like to the politician who favors them. By this ruling, be prepared for Bank of America to be the next president of USA. After all by judge's law BOA has the same rights as Obama.

      December 30, 2011 at 1:09 pm | Reply
    • neptonomist sentry

      He's a campaigner, not a leader. What else is new?

      December 30, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Reply
    • sane person

      How about mentioning the corruption of this administration – you know the one that promised ethics and transparency?

      Let me cite one example of an important presidential appointee in the Obama administration who is illegally pocketing significant amounts of taxpayer money. These infractions are occurring in the Department of Defense (DoD) by people extremely close to Obama and represent severe ethical and criminal violations that have recently been reported in the news. It was Obama himself who crafted an “Ethics Pledge” that was signed into law on January 21, 2009, but what has happened within this administration is clearly contrary to the language or spirit of this pledge.

      First, a little history. Obama’s successful presidential campaign was heavily dependent on massive amounts of grass-root support and donations. Much of that support also came from so-called “bundlers,” of which a Mr. John Dugan from Chicago, Illinois was an important campaign donation organizer (i.e., an important bundler for Obama). Mr. Dugan is currently a general partner and Co-Founder of OCA Ventures, headquartered in Chicago.

      After the election, Obama appointed Mr. Dugan’s niece, Regina Dugan, to become the head of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). DARPA is the research arm of the DoD with an annual budget of over $3 Billion.

      Prior to being appointed to DARPA, Regina Dugan had founded a company in Rockville, MD with her father, Vince Dugan, and her uncle, John Dugan, called RedXDefense. The company is privately held and was a small business that employed only 2 to 4 people and survived on Government funding, mostly SBIRs.

      Regina Dugan’s appointment to the Directorship of DARPA was a direct result of her family’s significant help (financial and otherwise) to the Obama campaign.

      Upon Regina Dugan taking the position as Director of DARPA, she transferred management of RedXDefense to her father, Vince Dugan, who now serves as its Chief Executive Officer (CEO). Regina Dugan’s sister, Christina Haney, also serves as the Vice President of Marketing at RedXDefense. The company is privately held and Regina Dugan claimed in her financial disclosures prior to her appointment as Director by Obama that she was an owner of RedXDefense and that the value of the company was zero (a dubious claim of any company with revenues).

      As recently reported in the Los Angles Times (See: http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....9577.story) and Wired Magazine (See: ), it has been discovered that DARPA has awarded contracts worth at least $1,800,000 over the last two years to the company (i.e., RedXDefense) co-owned by the Director of DARPA, namely Regina Dugan, and run by her father.

      A spokesperson for Dugan claims that the awards were proper because Regina Dugan recused herself from any role in DARPA’s dealings with RedXDefense. This statement indicates a total lack of understanding of how DARPA functions since every contract and funding award from the Agency is signed off by the Director. Apparently, Regina Dugan appointed the then Deputy Director of DARPA (Robert Lehaney) to oversee any issues that may arise with her company RedXDefense. However, she fired Lehaney a few weeks later. She then brought in a new Deputy Director, Kaigham Gabriel.

      Kaigham Gabriel was a Program Manager at DARPA back in the 1990’s and narrowly escaped jail time based on his giving lucrative contracts to companies he subsequently received kickbacks from. It can be surmised that Gabriel was the type of Deputy Director that Dugan wanted under her at the Agency and Gabriel was given the responsibility of overseeing any DARPA dealings with Dugan’s company RedXDefense.

      Gabriel has defended the very sizable awards to Dugan’s company in the press stating these conflicts of interest are encouraged by the current leadership of DARPA. Obviously this is very strange statement coming from a high level Government official.

      Finally, the Inspector General of the DoD recently started an investigation of this corruption, see:


      But here is the irony, while this investigation is going on, Dugan and Gabriel have kept their jobs and have been protected by the White House. Moreover, they are getting free legal aid from the Govt. If they were outside of the Govt, they would have to pay their own legal fees. Also, while they are in their offices at DARPA, they can do more efficient house cleaning.

      Why hasn’t the MSM or even sources like Am Spec, National Review, or even Republican Congress members or candidates gone after this story. I suspect there are many other $M’s that have not yet been noticed that Dugan and her cronies have stolen.

      December 30, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Reply
    • joe Jabberwacky

      A good idea here, forgive some of this debt. College expenses are high because of so much useless crap in college administration. Get these kids to a point where they feel they can have some kind of life. AIG wasn't allowed to fail but Obama and team are letting a whole generation fail. I'm 60+ years old have no college related expenses at this point. This administration totally failed its supporters. I'll hate myself in the morning, but I wish Hillary would run.

      December 30, 2011 at 1:36 pm | Reply
    • Jim from Maine

      True. But this coumn's just ridiculous:. the younger crowd most certainly has not "wised up" in the last 3 years. They will overwhelmingly vote for Obama again. Pluse there are millions of new 18 and 19 and 20 year old voters who have been well indoctrinated in our public schools and universities, and will overwhelmingly vote Obama. Trust me: the young have not suffered NEARLY enough to start to open their eyes and rebel. Not nearly enough.
      65% of them will vote for Obama.

      December 30, 2011 at 1:41 pm | Reply
    • Count Boogie

      I'm tired of whiney college students in the U.S...want want want...me me me...blame blame blame.
      Suck it up...nobody owes you anything...you fell for a street preacher...duh...big shock he didn't save the world.
      Stop dreaming of having all the toys...this ride isn't over and whinning won't fix it.
      Be ready to clean some toilets if you have to. I've done it for years and look...I'm not stressed that I don't have an iPhone, but I can feed myself and not blame everybody else.

      December 30, 2011 at 1:57 pm | Reply
    • bob

      President Oboma hasn't shown much leadership and our country needs this despartely. While his party held power in both house and senate legislation was rushed through without review. For the first 18 months of his presedency he appeared to be campaining still. Too much Bush blamining and not enough repairing of the nation he campained to lead. Mr. Obama has accomplished little. I'd like to see an alternate candidate from his party seek the nomination so we could move our nation in some direction instead of stalled.

      December 30, 2011 at 2:16 pm | Reply
    • John M

      Seems to me the article is about being unemployed. Where are the jobs? Most students take on debt with the hope of getting a job, not a government bailout! Why should there be more programs? Holy crow.

      December 30, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Reply
    • Bill

      Oh and I suppose the GOP won't say something like "forget what we did the past 13 years to drive this country into the Great Depression II and we'll do something differently in 2012" The GOP is nothing but a bunch of morons and no way will they be in office to screw up this country after 2012!

      December 30, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Reply
    • rawr

      The youth have embraced the GOP in Ron Paul.

      December 30, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Reply
    • GC

      You got it brother!

      December 30, 2011 at 3:32 pm | Reply
    • Duh

      Oh...I was expecting this to be a one-word or one sentence article



      "We never believed in him"

      December 30, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Reply
    • Frank1949

      Voting is pointless. No matter who you vote for, they will just go for the lobbyists. Did GW Bush really do anything was that all that "Conservative"? In the end, he campaigned like a Conservative and spent like a Lib. Did Obama do anything that was that "Progressive"? Not Really... In the end, he campaigned like a Lib, and acted like a Conservative (even though Libs and Fox Zombies can't seem to see it). No matter who gets into office, the US will always be at war and every couple years we slip closer and closer to fascism (just a little bit at a time...Patriot Act, NDAA, SOPA, whatever). I'm sorry, but the sad truth is that America is doomed...get out while you still can.

      December 30, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Reply
    • Brandon

      He did make things better. he just didnt do what he promised and he could have done more. But when you look at the GOP candidates, a man who cheated and left his first wife because she was dying of cancer, then left his second wife because she had MS. or we could goi with the guy that will agree with whatever will give him the most votes and has no leadership qualities. Or the crazy guy that wants Iran to have nukes. Hmmmmm

      December 30, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Reply
    • Jordan

      I've given up on America.

      December 30, 2011 at 3:50 pm | Reply
    • concerned

      Actually it's the Left that is all about money (taking other peoples') and power.

      The most intolerant people I know are Leftists – they hate it when I talk about 'political diversity' or 'respecting other peoples' opinions'. That reveals their basic sandbox mentality.

      December 30, 2011 at 6:07 pm | Reply
    • sfbox

      RON PAUL 2012!!!!

      December 31, 2011 at 7:09 am | Reply
    • Miguel

      Brad Chase is a full scale idiot. Today's students/college grads have been the most coddled crowd academia has ever had. Just getting their coveted and now nearly useless educations has never been more subsidized by America's people than they have been today. Today's students should be furious that Obama's condescending crowd of elite academics has destroyed so much of our economy, by this I mean destroyed today's young people's hopes and dreams, indeed, their prosperity in general, to speak nothing of the their futures and those of their children, in service to Obama's Marxist people-wrecking ideology.

      December 31, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Reply
    • ibemariah

      Ron Paul 2012!

      January 9, 2012 at 11:13 am | Reply
    • Drew

      RIGHT! Obama lied to us....Stop the war in IRAQ? NOPE just let the Bush clock run out 3 years later. Stop gov't secrecy? NOPE enhance it under the new NDAA. Close Guantanamo and stop keeping people in jail forever without charges? NOPE just kidding. All these things that were going to restore American principles were NOT done. I would rather NOT vote than vote for this liar again.

      January 12, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Reply
    • My Thoughts

      You know what Im im tired andsick of hearing this load of crap! Bush ruined everything!!! He is the one you amricans should be balming hes the one who decided to invest so much money into the military, and for what!! Only to see your loved ones bekilled or hurt! Even before Obama was elected, everything was falling apart, you just didnt realize it because they covered it up, so that whn obama came in it would look like all this is his fault! Get you head out of the clouds and pay attention, and look, really look!

      January 19, 2012 at 10:15 am | Reply
  2. Guest2011

    The reason why youth don't have jobs is because the GOP and Teapartiers keep blocking any job creation ideas coming from the President. Who do I blame? Congress!!!

    December 30, 2011 at 9:20 am | Reply
    • CSMinDC

      Because you're definitely not the brightest bulb. You want a dictatorship. Without some blocking, the quarterback gets sacked.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:33 am | Reply
      • tom

        Nothing was said about dictatorship. Your "bulb" is VERY DIM at best!

        December 30, 2011 at 9:34 am |
      • Craig

        No what i want is the president that was elected by a landslide majority to be able to represent the people that voted him in without a MINORITY of repukes on the dole of the fat cat superrich people and corporations screwing things up worse and worse!

        December 30, 2011 at 10:36 am |
      • Patrick

        And you want the death of individual rights.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:45 am |
      • Tao

        @ Patrick, why do you fear Dems will remove your individual rights when it is the republicans that passed the patriot act which allows the gov't to spy on you w/o reason or cause?

        December 30, 2011 at 11:49 am |
      • Patrick's Mom

        Patrick, where do you wackos get these ideas? I remember when the auto bailout was passed. Your ilk was saying Obama would be telling us what kind of cars to drive. That sure happened, huh?

        December 30, 2011 at 12:27 pm |
      • Christopher Yoder

        @tao. If memory serves me correctly the vote in the Senate was 98 to 1 with one abstaining, which would mean that by your logic in 2001 only two Democrats served in the Senate. Furthermore, according to Wikipedia (I know it is not the most reliable source but for the purposes of an informal comment will do) President Obama approved a four year extension to roving wiretaps, searches of business records and monitoring of "lone-wolves" or in other words the key issues that you have problems with. Did Obama all of a sudden become republican?? History, is again against you and your liberal ilk. I guess lies from honey-coated tongues sound like truth to those who have surrendered their ability to think for themselves and subjugated themselves to those that say they can rule and provide for you better than you can yourself.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:28 pm |
      • rafly

        it is tea crackpot party that blocks everything, no body talking about dictatorship, it is normal that we have some disagreement, but saying no to all other side opinion is not a compromise

        December 30, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
      • Yoder's Mom

        Hey Chris, who was Pres when the Patriot Act was signed? Oh, a Republican? Gee...so when a Republican gives away our rights, it's good? You really need to work on your GED.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • tom

      Blame all the dittoheads on this forum who voted those conservative members of congress into power. They believe will all their heart and soul that if we give our money to the Donald Trumps and Bill Gates of the world, they will create jobs instead of buying more yachts and homes around the world!

      December 30, 2011 at 9:33 am | Reply
      • bILL

        Someone has to build the yachts and the homes they buy. So then it does create jobs. Hmm

        December 30, 2011 at 9:40 am |
      • ialsoagree

        bill, who build the stock investments where the majority of their money goes? The workers in the stock investment factory?

        Hi, welcome to reality, where those living paycheck to paycheck are the ones infusing the most amount of money into the economy in the form of product purchases that directly result in demand for products and the need to hire more workers.

        December 30, 2011 at 9:48 am |
      • eloc35

        I think some of you guys forget that Obama and the dems had all the power for his first 2 years. Why did he focus one things that have made America worse than better. If he was to be different why not do something different, but as we found out he was at least the same if not worse.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:22 am |
      • Steve

        What a laugh..The people kicked out the DIMRATS from Congress because they felt they were nuts and focusing on things that Americans did not care for. Yes the Republicans which the last Bush was in office went spend crazy. They acted like DemocRATS and were called RINOS. The fact is that both parties are really bad and do not care about anybody but themselves and power. Both parties have back deals with Corporations and Special Interest Groups. People are finally waking up and joing the majority which is now registered Independants.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:15 am |
      • cheetos

        Is that what Bill Gates does with his money? I thought he invested in new lines of AIDS research and other charities. Silly me.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:37 pm |
      • neptonomist sentry

        Why don't you buy stock instead of drugs with your welfare money?

        December 30, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
    • lisbeth

      Look, the fact is that the president has to work with congress and historically with the opposing party. This president was very inexperienced and has just not been able to deliver on his promises. We need someone in office who is able to bring the two parties and the country together and stop being so divisive.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:54 am | Reply
      • who?

        And who would that be? Not one of the Republican candidates even knows what the words compromise or cooperation even mean. Obama has tried to work with congress to no avail.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:24 am |
      • indigo

        You're right, the president has to work with Congress and the opposing party and vice versa. Obama has tried to deliver on his promises but is faced with an opposing party that from day one has determined to block every effort, resulting in the mess you see.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:24 am |
      • Jay C.

        Well, yeah, that would be nice, but you're not going to get it from any of these republican candidates. No one has made more of an effort to reach across party lines than Obama has. He continues to do it, in a very distinguished and presidential manner. The problem is that republicans hate him so much for being smart and reasonable after the world-wide embarassment of a republican president who preceded him that they do everything in their power to stand in the way of any progress that would actually help this country. You must be blind or ignorant not to realize that the reason we can't get out of this terrible economic crisis is because the republicans don't want us too. If Obama proposed a law to declare the sky blue, the repubs would claim that it isn't. Remember when they took the House in 2010 claiming their focus would be on creating jobs, jobs, jobs? Curiously, they haven't done one thing to promote jobs. All they do is stand in the way because they figure a bad economy is their best hope for regaining control. And guess what? They are the ones who got us into this mess, and they want you to believe that they can get us out. Don't buy it or you'll quikly see things go from bad to worse.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:48 am |
      • Skeezix

        Bringing the parties together... seems like a pipe dream, regardless of which side of the aisle I stand.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:58 am |
      • Christopher Yoder

        @JayC You obviously do not have any knowledge about how the legislative branch works. There are a myriad of things that are passed through the both houses which brook no contention from either side, ie naming a post office. But if there were no debate on issues that are profoundly important we would live in a oligarchy not a democracy. Beware of the sentiment you espouse because it is a few steps away from losing all the rights that we hold dear.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
      • zzzeemer

        Obama had 2 unopposed years to help the country get on its feet and back to work, but instead chose to shove Obama legislation that no one wanted but would give him a "historical legacy"; which is why the AMERICAN VOTERS voted in congressmen to stop Obama's policies once they saw which direction he was headed. Everyone wanted "change" until they figured out what he meant by "change". I've been all over Europe – great place to visit, but their lifestyle is not as good as ours USED TO BE.

        January 13, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • Jimmy Romero

      i am middle class retired my saving ,stocks,investment went down hill since Obama in office
      while he in vacation spending tax payer money

      December 30, 2011 at 10:00 am | Reply
      • Glenis

        The President is paying for his own vacation with personal funds. Tax payers money pays for the security detail.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:18 am |
      • Don

        I don't understand how you all can blame O for this entire mess. Do you forget he did not start this landslide? How can you sit there and insist that any republican could have done better when they were not there to resolve it? He inherited a mess that the GOP worked at creating for nearly eight years! And now, instead of working with the democrats, they work against them at every turn. Is that not an abandonment of helping people get out of this mess all in the guise of “keeping us get further into the mess”. The GOP has DESERTED the common citizen during O’s term because they want the white house back. They do not care about the common citizen but there are a lot of wealthy people that want to see them move back into the white house – they are the ones they care about.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:02 am |
      • Marc

        Your theory is akin to blaming the Chernobyl clean up crew for persistent radiation. "Hey, they have been here for over a week, why am I still glowing?"

        There is something called "the past" or "history" and it, not Obama, usually has an impact on our present and future. If you want your opinion to be respected, please inform yourself instead of being the unwitting voice of a disillusioned power hungry establishment.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:33 am |
      • RapidOne

        People like Jimmy are clueless and worthless Americans, that is why. They focus on their hate, rather than anything else substantial.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
      • neptonomist sentry

        Don and Mark, please rid your hearts of this hatred that you have for anyone different than you. I know you are angry, but you should learn to embrace diversity instead of wanting to murder people who have different beliefs than you.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:35 pm |
      • Marc

        Thanks for the perfect example of the "republican mind filter", somehow you equated what I said to wanting to murder people. Wow. That's I can say...just...Wow. The establishment of fear is complete, overiding common sense also complete. So lock your doors caused we "undiversified" liberals are going on a murder rampage (brought ot you by the good and happy folks of FOX news and spewed out yet another scared and feeble minded sheep.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
    • DAM

      LOL. Ya, the GOP is the one blocking job creation. Funny. Keystone ring a bell?????????? Why hasn't Obama, your democratic supreme leader, not signed Keystone. Keystone should be a no-brainer, but it is not signed.......you must LOVE being lied to like a little dbag.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:09 am | Reply
      • Don

        Ever hear about the aquifer? The pipeline goes over it. Do you not like clean water? Do you not like a clean environment? He wanted it delayed so it could be studied but just as Fox and the GOP prefer; they claim that he is just costing jobs. All Fox and the GOP care about is the money to be made from it and they use pawns like you to help pass on their propaganda! They could care less about the planet as long as they have the money! Get a brain…start thinking!

        December 30, 2011 at 11:09 am |
      • KK Denver

        The REPUBLICAN governor want's it stopped to re-rout around the largest clean water aquifer in the country

        December 30, 2011 at 11:27 am |
      • Marc

        You are using a microscope to try to examine a global issue, no wonder you have no grasp on the reality of the situation. Stop focusing on "predertmined talking points" and get informed. It's not because you can type a on a keyboard that your opinion is valid or well founded. Monkeys can type but they don't put that much thought in it either.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:35 am |
      • cant take it any more

        I love how "environmental" considerations are used to block the keystone pipeline. First pipelines are everywhere and there is more threat to contamination of any aquifer from gas station tanks than from any new pipeline. Second, and most important is that is about protecting WARREN BUFFET's railroad that is currently hauling the crude oil from the Bakken to the gulf. I am sick of the idiots on both sides of the isle blaming each other for corruption when both parties pull this slight of hand and steal us blind! Partisanship demonstrates an absolute lack of intelligent thought!

        December 30, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
      • Don

        To neptonomist sentry, you couldn’t be more wrong about me being a hater; I am just the opposite. I enjoy diversity than most people I know and practice it every day. I don’t even hate the Fox watchers; I feel it is sad that people find a news “commentary” channel so right in what they say. I have plenty of friends on both sides of the fence so I find it offensive that you would even begin to label me a hater or murderer; that is something that I have noticed a lot of Fox watchers are into. I don’t even dislike you; just disagree with your statements but you have a right to those and you beliefs. Have a great day!

        December 30, 2011 at 2:07 pm |
    • saldunn

      I agree 100%

      December 30, 2011 at 10:11 am | Reply
    • Mike in Pekin

      Obama had a majority in both houses the first 2 years of his presidency, and he squandered it to get his stupid health care bill passed, instead of focusing on getting the country back to work. That was exactly why he lost the majority iin the house, and why the majority in the Senate was reduced. It is also why so many long term democrats are choosing not to run again. They see the writing on the wall.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:20 am | Reply
      • Pete

        If he had gotten a UHC plan passed and gotten us away from our healthcare being provided by employers it would have put about 8% of our earnings back in our pockets and freed small business from their biggest cost. The failure to get this achieved was on the Dems in Congress, not Obama. Unfortunately, a Blue Dog is just a Republican that doesn't like being told what to vote for by GOP party central, so he didn't have the support he needed to reform the biggest money suck this nation has ever faced.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:20 am |
      • Marc

        I was reading your comment until I cam accorss the words "stupid healthcare bill" at which point you became just another sheep. If you want to live in a safe society, if you want to be proud of your community, if you truly want to improve the world for your kids, then everyone should have health coverage. If you don't get that simple freaen fact, then you have nothing to offer to an "improved human condition". Think beyond yourself for once you egotistical slug.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:40 am |
      • Christopher Yoder

        @Marc. Does the Declaration of Independence not say that we are imbued with certain inalienable rights including "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." How can a federal mandate for insurance be in line with those inalienable rights? How do I have a right to life when there are rumors of "death panels," I say rumor because the UHC doesn't go into effect fully until after Obama's second midterm election (assuming he gets reelected). How do I have a right to liberty when the government tells me I have to have insurance that adheres to the rules they created? How do I have the right to the pursuit of happiness when Liberals say that I am not responsible even to make mature decision on how I conduct my life. Give thoughtful, rational and logical responses to these and I will take time out of my day to consider them.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:39 pm |
      • Marc

        @ Christopher Yoder. How easy is it to rationalize children dying in a rich country like the US by diluting it with "rights and freedoms". I bet you and your family have health care but what if they didn't, like MILLIONS of your fellow Americans? Where is your die hard patriotism? Where s the American dream for these people? See Chris, the problem is you don't have a clue. I trust that if a child showed up on your doorstep you would take care of him/her, no matter what, so the only difference is perspective. And perspective can be altered easily with fear, misinformation and supposed oppression. But again, you have no idea what I am talking about, you are not nor will you ever be self aware. So stick to your guns and continue spewing the rhetoric of others since you are unable to achieve independant thought. BTW, I live in Canada and we have free and amazing healthcare, also lower crime, better quality of life, etc., etc., etc. so get a clue and look beyond your retarded borders.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
      • Smart

        Great point Mike!

        December 30, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
    • Jesse from KC

      The reason so many youths are unemployed is 2 fold. First, we have a bad economy. We've had a bad economy for years, it's not this Congress's fault, it's not the President's fault, it's not Bush's fault. Or, should I say, they're ALL to blame, along with several other factors that our government can't/doesn't control. Secondly, a HUGE % of this demographic is made up of students who don't work. I wonder what the graphic would look like this those who are WILLINGLY unemployed were excluded.

      That being said, I'm 25. I was a HUGE supporter of Obama in 2008. I'll still probably vote for Obama, as I don't see a good candidate from the Republicans yet. That being said, for the first time in my life (I grew up in a democrat household) I'm listening to the Republicans, looking for someone to like better than Obama. I haven't found one, yet, but I'm looking.

      Obama has failed in his first term. Those who blame Congress have a short enough memory to NOT remember that Dem's had the House and Senate for 2 years under Obama, and had a filibuster-proof Senate for that matter. Obama still didn't accomplish what he should have.

      I didn't know that about Student Loan debt being protected only as of 2005. That really bites, and should be fixed. Protecting tens of thousands of dollars from bankruptcy relief is just wrong.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:34 am | Reply
      • KK Denver

        Stop saying he had a filibuster proof congress when the most democratic senators he had was 58 when you need 60. You know this and still parrot this crap.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:30 am |
      • Jesse from KC

        Sorry, KK Denver, you're right.

        The Democrats didn't have 60 seats for 2 years.

        They had 60 seats for one year.

        I stand corrected that the Democrats didn't have 2 years of full, unquestioned control, only 1 year.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
      • jsf12

        All reasonable people counting the Democrat's filibuster proof majority count the two "Democrats except in name" in the Senate who are each politically to the left of mainstream Democrats and who voted 100% solidly with the Democrats against the Republicans during that period. Note also the lack of actual filibusters (Compare to the constant filibusters by Democrats during the period that Bush had a slim majority in the Senate).

        December 30, 2011 at 2:01 pm |
    • joe

      This shows exactly why we need an IQ test for voting rights. People talk, yet know nothing. Obama had a supermajority in the senate and house his first two years, yet did NOTHING to bring us jobs or fix the economy, instead choosing to give us a healthcare bill nobody wanted, and which has made the corporations start sitting on TRILLIONS instead of hiring with them, making the economy worse. This resulted in the AMERICAN PEOPLE sending republicans to the house, it didnt happen for no reason. Republicans, as bad as they are, control 1/3 of government and have only done so for the last 11 months, not since Obama took office. Wake up!

      December 30, 2011 at 10:54 am | Reply
      • Marc

        You are wrong on all counts except for one Joe, the IQ test for voting is a GREAT idea. But in my scenario, your IQ have to be high enough to vote and not vice versa. You probably won't get this comment so call one of your democratic acquaintances to explain.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:43 am |
      • Christopher Yoder

        @ Marc. I challenge not only you but all of your brethren and ilk on this website to compose a rational, logical and thoughtful response to those that do not agree with you instead of parroting talking points to a degree and with a vehemence that the "conservatives" on this site do not share or to resorting to personal attacks when you realize that your ideology is an ideology of enslavement not liberty but of dictatorship or an oligarchy (at the best) instead of democracy. You and your ilk have abandoned the enlightened (the philosophical movement) principles on which this country was founded. You and your ilk have surrendered your ability to think and be an individual for the supposed comfort of the collective.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
      • Marc

        @ Christopher Yoder. You have an amazing vocabulary (albeit redundant) for a person with such an ignorant perspective. Look at congress and tell me you are proud. Look at the state of poverty in your country and tell me you are proud. Look at the republican candidates and tell me, without laughing, that you are proud. Herman Cain? Sarah Palin? Michele Bachman? They were potential candidates for the office of PRESIDENT, that is all the proof I need. Now I could go back and provide you with (wait for it) a plethora of reasons why your head is up your you know what but it wouldn't make a difference. You have no idea what your existence is about, you are but a pawn in the game of life (Mongo, Blazzing Saddles). So continue to attempt to counter reason with an elaborate vocabulary, it will work on those who are impressed by such edumucation (little minds) but not by us "thinkers". I feel bad for our friends to the South but believe that there is still a majority of people who possess enough brains to recognize substances over form and you my eloquent friend "ain't" one of them.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • Eric

      Oddly enough the jobs most college students are looking for aren't in physical labor and infrastructure. That might be because of the high hopes left minded people have fed them since day one. Not everyone can be a doctor. Less people should go to college it is not necessary for many jobs. Let the military men make infrastructure it will give them something to do since war is so evil. We have to pay them anyways. Infrastructure jobs are never long term which is the kind of planning our govt should be doing. Sadly they know we are all too stupid to look long term and offer these short term bandage fixes. Obama or the GOP is really just a question of whos face is on tube when we fail.

      December 30, 2011 at 11:16 am | Reply
      • Smart

        Yup... how many young people actually want to work? There are plenty of jobs out there.... funny, but when I was in High School, kids I knew worked at McDonalds & Burger King....

        December 30, 2011 at 2:15 pm |
    • JSkar

      I bet all you air-headed liberals do not even know what bills the republicans in the house passed.
      They passed a balanced budget and many jobs bills.
      Who ignored the bills? Thats right- the Senate Dems!

      December 30, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Reply
    • glj

      So how has Obama tried to create jobs? Just give money away with no way to pay for it. As a country, we cannot continue to give something for nothing. I love how the Liberals say "the Republicans are stopping it". What happened during the first two years of the presidency? The Democrats had control and yet they still passed nothing.

      December 30, 2011 at 1:31 pm | Reply
  3. glyder

    you guys in the media pumped him up too much in the 08 election.the media created a savior and now reality sets in.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:20 am | Reply
    • Heather


      December 30, 2011 at 10:00 am | Reply
  4. Jon

    I am a 24 year old college graduate with over $150,000 of student loan debt. Unfortunately, I went to a private university and took out private student loans. I've fallen into deep depression, anxiety, and have lost the will to live because of my excessive student loans. I work a job that once paid well, but because of the economy, it no longer pays well - and I've been faced with further cuts to my salary. I also work two jobs... so those who say I'm not trying hard enough... I am ! I want to jump off a bridge because I owe so much in student loans... and the creditors will not stop contacting me. I have no money!

    Everyday, it's a choice between living on the streets and having one meal per day (or sometimes one meal every two days) – or – paying off my minimum monthly loan payments. I was hospitalized for a day because I had chest pains a few months ago from stress, and that day in the hospital ended up costing $12,000! I have no chance at life anymore. An attorney said that bankruptcy would have saved me from my private student loans prior to Congress' passage of a 2005 credit card reform act. But that is no longer the case. The system is completely setup to fail everyone BUT the big banks and corporations. Last month, I had no option but to default on my student loans. I need to eat more than once a day – and – I cannot imagine myself living on the streets. Sorry Sallie Mae. Sorry Wells Fargo. I know I will pay the price of a bad credit history, but you guys have been too much... and Bankruptcy is NOT an option for me.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:22 am | Reply
    • Responsible One

      Funny, I enlisted in the Marine Corps, served my Country, used the GI Bill and part time work while attending a top-rated public college, and graduated with $5,000 in student loans. I worked for a couple of years and then went to a top-tier nationally ranked private graduate school for three years and incurred less than $100,000 in very manageable debt, all without any family or other outside support. Of course, I lived in near squalor while being a student, drove cars that cost less than $5,000, worked during spring break instead of traveling to the beach, etc. etc. Should I have to pay for your bad decisions?

      December 30, 2011 at 9:35 am | Reply
      • Jon

        You served in the military? Good for you. Unlike you, I did not have the luxury to the GI Bill. Could I have attended a state school? Most certainly - and that is my biggest mistake. Had I had the opportunity to do it over, I would attend a community college and public university. Now I am paying the price... but do I deserve to pay the price for the rest of my life? Unfortunately, I was young, made a mistake, and opted for a top-ten ranked private university... to which tuition was about $40,000 a year (with minimum scholarship and tuition assistance).

        You had a car during college. I did not have a car during college. I worked hard to live frugally, worked a job through three of the four spring breaks (like you), and even worked through summer and winter breaks. I never even signed up for a credit card. However, I soon discovered that my attempts to live frugally was pointless... as the real enemy was the student loans (particularly, the private student loans) that had essentially put me down to the point where I feel it's pointless to live. Interest compounded at a dramatic rate, endless fees that come out of no where, and even fees to transfer money from the checking account to pay for the loan itself!

        I can only have sympathy for those in my similar situation. I also have sympathy for those that are struggling right now... barely able to make it.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:26 am |
      • Wake up

        I am not a party person, but a results person. Obama has not given the results needed to uplift our country, therefore I will not vote for him. Simple as that. No name calling or party bashing here, just simple fact.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:28 am |
      • pinkrain

        Perhaps you should make it your goal not to let this happen to other people. While I feel sorry for you having to live a life always paying back for previous choices that is unfortunately the life that you choose for yourself upon accepting those loans. Young people are only living for the moment, never taking the time to calculate the reverberations of them choosing to take out the equivalent of a house loan for their education. Then again people taking out a house loan for nearly 100% of the house aren't taking the time to calculate either, even at a small % interest how can you not realize that you pay over double what you are actually borrowing!! Although there are many making the bad mistakes in their life, that is just what it is life...it is what you make it and others should not have to absorb the debt in order to make life easier for those others that made these mistakes. Perhaps it should be brought about to ask for reductions in interest rates. I myself do not have these loans, but try my hardest to make those I know understand the problems of taking out such a large amount for an education. Sadly....I have family members which are going to be looking at the same thing. Especially when people are taking out these loans for degrees which are utterly useless in trying to find a job.

        December 30, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
    • Solutions

      A $5 length of rope will solve your problem.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:42 am | Reply
      • lisbeth

        Ok it's not funny to suggest suicide to someone – if this post is real – who is actually feeling suicidal. As for the original post, there are ways to eventually work your way out of the debt and lack of money is not a reason to give up on life. I suggest you contact a local church or synagogue – whether you are religious or not – and they can usually point you in the direction of services to assist you while you are struggling.

        December 30, 2011 at 9:58 am |
      • Jon

        Unfortunately, this is a real post. Thank you for your concern.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:00 am |
      • Hurtlocker

        Didn't you read his post? He does not have the 5$ because of the raw deal America gave him by asking that he borrow what he can afford to pay back.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:05 am |
      • HOB

        You really need to leave the discussion. That kind of response is very irresponsible.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:07 am |
      • Lee Van Cleef

        perhaps you should practice what you preach.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:11 am |
      • Booo

        "Fool of a Took! Throw YOURSELF in next time and rid us of your stupidity." – Gandalf the Grey, "Lord of the Rings"
        You're remarks proves there are others who would be best served by said rope. Jerk!

        December 30, 2011 at 11:25 am |
      • glj

        Completely uncalled for. This post should be removed. How are you going to feel if this person does take their life due to your comment. GROW UP AND ACT RESPONSIBLE. That is the problem with the Internet, people can make statements without taking ownership.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
    • Glenn H


      I totally understand where you are coming from on this issue. I'm a college student myself. The reason we attennd college is to obtain a degree, and get a career that compliments the degree we received. I want to continue on to law school, and I know the loans have a chance on piling on even higher. I know you stated the sacrifices that you have made, just to keep your payments on time. Hang in there, can't let creditors or anyone else bring you down. If you're intertested I have a Face Book Fan Page called Optimism. You will recognize the picture having a statue with 2 people.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:43 am | Reply
      • Jon

        Thank you... I just wanted to vent somewhere – and – I'm glad someone can understand.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:02 am |
      • livewithinyourmeans

        That is the problem right there. Too many lawyers already, and still more and more go into the field expecting top dollar salary returns. If you are expecting to come out of college making 100,000, think again. We don't you do something that actually helps people, instead of just padding your pocketbook.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:27 am |
    • dash handsome

      150000 in debt? what did you go to school for? thats the top of the spectrum. you recieved no scholarships to attend a high end private university? doesnt anyone read terms and conditions on loan contracts anymore? 12000 for one day in the hospital for panic attack chest pains? been there, done that plus all the follow up doctors visits and tests and my costs were nowhere near 12000 all combined. hell not even 5000. i'd question that...

      December 30, 2011 at 9:46 am | Reply
      • Jon

        I received some scholarship money, and I attended a top 10-rated private university. My tuition was about $40,000 per year. As for the military, I too wanted to serve... but with the amount of student loans I have, I was told that I would not qualify for a security clearance. Granted, I graduated with a 3.8 GPA. As for m $12,000 hospital bill, I also had several tests conducted... including a CAT scan, X-Rays, blood tests, and other tests. I stayed at the hospital for a 36-hour period.

        December 30, 2011 at 9:54 am |
      • Snoopsig

        It's very possible to get a large bill from the hospital if you don't have insurance. 12K, I can't say, but I got charged 2K for a 4 hour visit to the hospital. They gave me an x-ray, a knee immobilzer, and crutches and charged me 2K. Oh, the the x-ray was only $495. It's insane.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:03 am |
      • livewithinyourmeans

        Blame ObamaCare for the high healthcare bills. It is only going to get worse.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:28 am |
      • Sweetriver

        God, give me strength....It takes a strong stomach to listen to some of the apathy toward the plight of our educated enslaved youth. These are the very people we will soon depend on to lead us into an uncertain future that only grows more complex every single day. The problem here is perspective, those of you who find yourself criticizing these people are of the view that the world isn't changing. That it's 1950, and things are just going to stay the same forever, america is #1, and all problems can be solved with good old common sense. This is probably why you nominate some of the most agregiously stupid individuals america has to offer to represent you in government. You devalue education, and that's precisely why you feel no sympathy for a person that has to borrow huge sums of money to acquire one, and why you despise a president for having such an impressive one. You should know, that other countries, the ones that will someday very soon surpass us, are not and do not hold education in such contempt. I'll tell you what, don't send your children to college, and call me back in 25 years when mine have finished, and we'll see who has the better outcome.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:31 pm |
      • Sweetriver

        "Blame ObamaCare for the high healthcare bills. It is only going to get worse."

        And this just takes the cake......This is the most ill-informed pile of excriment every dreamed of by any blow-hard in the history of the internet.......bold judgement I know, but seriously, blame Obamacare? You don't know the slightest thing about why I set my mark up on drugs at 350%. It's not because of Obamacare, which by the way, hasn't even been implemented to any measurable degree!!!! No, it's because people come to the hospital without insurance for whatever reason, and then don't pay their bill. So, I charge those that have insurance, and do pay, 350% above the average wholesale price for the medications to cover those that don't pay. Obamacare, my sorely ill-informed friend, is a massive sell out to private insurers who now have a government mandate that forces these uninsured into the insurance pools with the rest of us. So the government is attempting to force the uninsured, remember I just told you that their inability to pay is why I charge you so much, to get coverage. That means, when implemented, I won't have to charge as much for drugs, because no matter who walks through that door, they will be covered and I will expect to be compensated for services and supplies rendered. Please, the next time you decide it feels appropriate to pop off and say something so ridiculous, go to school for 8-10 years, become a healthcare professional, and glean a smidgeon of insight before you cast such a broad generalization. Such obviously shallow thoguht on any topic leads the reader to the conclusion that you are most likely a buffoon.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:44 pm |
    • hopeful

      Jon, Please don't give up on life! You are too young and have so much potential. Just take it one day at a time, and ask G-d to help you. There is hope!

      December 30, 2011 at 9:54 am | Reply
      • Jon

        Thank you... I hope that there is some hope.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:02 am |
    • Clarky

      You you want help with this very serious problem that you have gotten yourself into, then you need to seek out Dave Ramsey. Dave Ramsey and his Financial Peace University will help you. My brother told me about Dave Ramsey three years ago, I am completely debt free, and now saving for a house. You my friend, are in a serious predicament. I will pray for you and so will others who are reading your post. There is a way out of this mess, listen to Dave Ramsey's show, he has people who call in every day with financial disasters and he helps them get back on track. You can do this, have faith that someone can hep you pull through this...

      December 30, 2011 at 10:05 am | Reply
    • Take_Heart

      Dear Jon,
      Please take heart. Above all, PLEASE dont think of taking your life. I understand how frustrated and depressed you are, but please remember that there are many people in worse situations than your self. At least you went to school, many people dont have that opportunity.
      Please take heart, I have found spirituality (not religion) to be a great help in time of crisis. Find a church where you can connect with God. All will be well

      December 30, 2011 at 10:06 am | Reply
    • TMack

      There was no reason for you to incur $150,000 in debt. I am not sure what state you live in but chances are there is public state university that you could have attended for around $10,000-$15,000 per year. You obviously were set on attending this private university and didn't take enough time to think about the ramifications of graduating with a large amount of debt. No one is guaranteed a job upon graduation whether you attend a community college or Ivy League school. There is also a better change of finding employment if you major in a field in demand. Majored in accounting? You will most likely find a decent paying job. Majored in women's studies, African arts, or basket weaving? You most likely will NOT find a high paying job or any job for that matter whether we are experiencing a good economy or bad. We are all taught how to add and subtract in first grade.......all you needed to do was use these basic principles to see that incurring $150,000 in debt before beginning any full time employment was not a good idea. I wish you the best of luck and don't want anybody to be unhappy but I don't want to pay for your bad decisions and stupidity.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:09 am | Reply
    • Bob58

      Hang in there Jon ..... you obviously have a good work ethic ..... You have a good Education, as you gain experience you will be able to get better job... and better pay.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:29 am | Reply
    • Flatsguide

      So, it's the Republican's fault that you have a $150K student loan? Join the service, do something for this country, and yourself other than leeching off others. You borrowerd it, YOU pay it off.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:30 am | Reply
    • Mike in Pekin

      Jon, I sympathize, to a point. The fact is, you made a truly bad decision in choosing to acquire so much debt for your education. Like some of the others who posted, I enlisted in the military, and put myself through college, after which point I became a commissioned officer, and am still serving (26 years so far, hoping to go to 37!). I did take some sstudent loans, but paid them off two years out of school, because I borrowed as little as possible. Otherwise, I worked my way through college to cover the gaps between what The GI Bill paid, and what was left.

      That being said, you need to get yourself to a credit couselor. Make sure you choose a non-profit. They can help you devise a plan. One of the first things you need to do is look at your montly expenses (besides the Student Loans) and figure out what you can reduce. Find a cheaper place to live, or get a room-mate to share the bills. Some things that you don't need when you financially strapped? Cable TV (they still broadcast over the air), Fancy cell phones (forget the Android – get a basic no contract pay as you go phone, just minutes, no texting). If you have a car, is it paid for? If not, dump it and get a used car you can pay cash for. Better yet, if you have access to public transportation, just use that. Become familiar with your local Goodwill or Salvation Army Thrift store. Learn to shop for your groceries at Aldi. And the military is still an option for you. The Reserves or National Guard have programs like the Student Loan Repayment Program, which will provide you with up to $5000.00 per year to pay against your loan debt, on top of the paycheck it provides. Depending on the specialty you choose, you can even qualify for an enlistment bonus, as well as the GI Bill, which you can use later for further education, if you so decide. Having a degree, you could become an officer, which is a higher pay scale. If you need health Insurance, you can get it through the reserves for a very reasonable price. And, you will become part of a family that will support you and stand by you. Take it from me – 10 years ago, I lost my business and had to declare bankruptcy. The National Guard kept me going while I rebuilt, and eventually, I went full time with the Guard. This year, My wife and I will be buying our dream house, now that she has finished school (which she used my Post 9-11 GI Bill to pay for, by the way).

      Bottom line, you have options. My question to you is, are you willing to do the work to get past this, or are you just looking for someone to give you handout? Remember, you are never beaten until you give up.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:40 am | Reply
      • Jon

        I share a 2-bedroom apartment with three other people. I have no car. I have no credit cards. I have a prepaid cell phone. I haven't bought a new wardrobe in ages. I work two jobs. My student loan payments are more than these items combined! I tried inquiring to join the military... but they said that because of the amount of student loans I owe, I would not be able to attain security clearance to become an officer.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:45 am |
      • S.

        I mean this with the greatest of respect, but the cost of even public university has risen a lot in two and a half decades. I worked my way through university to borrow as little as possible, and I'm still struggling.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:03 am |
      • Mike in Pekin

        Jon, I don't know what else to tell you, except don't give up. I have been through some dark days, too. When I lost my business, I lost everything, and while I was able to declare bankruptcy on most of the debt, some of it remained, and I had to work through that while supporting my wife (who had Brain Surgery 2 years later) and children. For a long time, it seemed like nothing would ever go right for me. But eventually, you will see light at the end of the tunnel. Focus on the day to day things first. Pay what you can on the debt, and look around for a better job. I am curious what you majored in, though. Several other posters have asked, but you seem hesitant to respond. So, I will ask again – What was the major that was worth over $150,000.00?

        December 30, 2011 at 11:12 am |
    • wawuzit

      If anyone knows what it looks like to borrow money and not have a secure way to pay it back,it would be you. Did you ever have one thought that borrowing money with no job or means to pay it back might be a mistake? You'll make a great Democrat.
      Anyone can think up a great idea to spend money for a worthy cause, it takes a smart person to realize that even a great idea has to have a way to pay for that idea. Why wouldn't everyone just do like you did and borrow from the future? Here's why. It's not smart. Have you ever thought about relocating to another area that the job situation is a little better?
      Or...You can follow Obama's philosophy and borrow MORE money in hopes that things will change in the future. You're gambling with your future, he's gambling with the countries future.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:55 am | Reply
    • Booo

      Jon, have you tried requesting a forebearance due to financial hardship? I did a forebearance 3 years straight because my field just didn't pay a lot starting out – not to mention the high cost of living in the area I got a job. I'm paying my loans back now, but the interest did add to my principle. If you can, try consolidating your loans – if you haven't already – and ask for a forebearance. And when that forebearance runs out and you need another, ask again. I don't know when you graduated, but I know the Obama administration has a program where you only pay a small percentage of your discretionary income (I think 10 or 20%). Also, public service can help you get your loans forgiven faster. That doesn't just mean the military. You could be an educator or get a job in law enforcement.

      Please don't give up. It gets better, I promise you. I had it hard, too. Don't listen to these old blowhards on here playing their, "I've got mine now get your's mentality." It probably cost only $2k a year or less for them to go to school. They probably didn't have to pay $1200+ utilities for a 350 sq ft studio apartment and if you get a roommate or two and get a multi-room apt. you'd still be paying about that much in many urban areas – where most of the jobs exist. They probably didn't have to pay $2.59 for a half gallon of milk or $3+ for a tank of gas or increased public transportation fare.

      To the bashers on here, you can say what you will about bad decisions, but the damage is done. Jon doesn't have a time machine. Do you realize that if Jon asked 2% of this country for a dollar, he's loan debt would probably be solved? So you can whine all you want about having to pay for someone else. As someone who's struggled and has started to make it, I don't mind that one dollar of my taxes going to help my fellow American make it, too. It shames me that more people don't feel the same, especially those who claim to be Christian.

      December 30, 2011 at 11:18 am | Reply
    • Eric

      You or your parents are the worst investors in this country. You are clearly not worth that much debt. Pick a real field of study in a future life. Don't waste that much money on a major you could get for half that at any public university. Enjoy your self earned debt.

      December 30, 2011 at 11:19 am | Reply
    • Thinking7

      Jon – Talk to a bankruptcy lawyer. It is not the end of the world to file, and most people who end up filing for bankruptcy after graduation and having excessive bills are pitied. Do yourself a favor and get rid of your stress by eliminating the financial burden. You will be able to own a home one day, a car, etc. Good luck to you!

      December 30, 2011 at 11:22 am | Reply
    • Watson

      Why do you have 150,000 in school debt? Did you really believe this was a good idea?

      One of my favorite quotes: "Will: See the sad thing about a guy like you, is in about 50 years you’re gonna start doin' some thinkin' on your own and you’re gonna come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life. One, don't do that. And two, you dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a f*****’ education you coulda' got for a dollar fifty in late charges at the Public Library."

      I'm staunchly opposed to school debt relief. If you're too dumb to figure out that the schools are having their way with you - that the investment is _far_ overrated compared to the return - maybe higher education wasn't for you in the first place. But be happy, you're paying for the new luxury commons... yeah!

      Long term, a better way to deal with the cost of schooling as a society would be to cut back on the subsidies; quit the third party payment. Make students answer the question: is it really worth it.

      December 30, 2011 at 11:26 am | Reply
    • enjaye

      Jon, I totally understand your situation. I know many will not agree with what I am about to say, but I don't care. Jon, don't pay the student loans! I would stop stressing and worrying about it. Go to work, save as much as you can, and move forward. The bad credit will remain on your credit report for 7 years. After that you can get the bad information removed from your credit. If you continue to work, and save as much as possible you will be in a good position after those 7 years are up. No amount of money is worth killing yourself over stress, and needless panic attacks! I have high student loans, but unlike you the bulk of my loans are federal. I only have one private loan, and I paying on it over my federal loans because my federal loans have better deferment options. I would love for Congress to get serious about doing something to reign in the exorbitant cost of education, but no one seems to care. By the way soaring education costs have been a problem for over 30 years now, and neither side of the political isle has done much to fix or address the problem. Sen. Durbin from Illinois did introduce a bill to reinstate the ability to discharge private student loan debt in a bankruptcy, but so far nothing has been done. What I don't understand is the hypocrisy in this country. We say we believe in education, but we don't stand by that. Why is the interest on a house cheaper than the interest on student loans? At best the interest on federal student loans should 2-2.5%, and the interest should be deductible for the life of the loan no matter what income bracket you are in. It should be treated the same as mortgage interest deduction. Jon I hope things get better for you. Whatever you do stop stressing, and please don't harm yourself. You would be better off, just not paying back the loans. You can change your phone number and the harassing calls will stop, and return the mail back to sender! My point is do not allow the greedy banks to make you ill or drive you into depression! I wish the very best to you!

      December 30, 2011 at 11:39 am | Reply
    • ty

      hi Jon,

      Question, who choose to borrow money for a student loan that you cannot affoard to repay; you or the system?

      December 30, 2011 at 12:58 pm | Reply
    • glj

      I have to ask the question - what is your degree in?

      December 30, 2011 at 1:46 pm | Reply
    • T


      I am sorry to hear your situation. Please take care. Don't give up.

      I hope you are able to work and have a place to live where you are. If not, you might think about going overseas to teach English (ex. in South Korea). You would probably have to contract out for a year or so. But, I think they can help provide a place to live. It would probably take years to pay down the student debt though. But, don't feel like you have to live on the street.

      I don't know what to tell you. I"m sorry you have such a loan. I don't think that big of a loan should have been taken out. But, what is done is done. Now, you just have to work awhile to fix it. But, there are jobs overseas. I'm not saying do that, but it is an option. You need to have a place to live and food.

      I am a university student too.

      But, either way...please get help. There is hope. God, family, friends, people care about you. Don't give up.

      December 30, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Reply
  5. GOP isn't the enemny... low turnout is

    GOP won't get the youth vote. If our generation is unhappy with Obama, we simply won't vote. There is no viable GOP candidate that even REMOTELY speaks to our generation. Ron Paul has the most youth support, but isn't an electable candidate with the rest of the nation.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:24 am | Reply
    • ialsoagree

      As a youth voter, I agree with everything you said except the Ron Paul comment. I would entertain a GOP vote if I was shown a candidate that didn't strike me as a complete moron, but so far I haven't seen that.

      As for Ron Paul, the guy thinks firing 200,000 federal employees is a good way to make jobs. He wants to deregulate industry and lower corporate taxes. The guy is a corporate puppet and would be worst than most of his fellow GOP candidates, no thanks!

      December 30, 2011 at 9:43 am | Reply
      • Jeff

        This is the scenario:

        Romney vs. Obama = Obama win.
        Gingrich vs. Obama = Obama win.
        Perry vs. Obama = Obama win.
        Bachman, Santorum, etc., = Obama wins.

        Ron Paul is the only candidate with the synergy that Obama had in 08. True, he's not the first choice for the GOP, but they'd vote for him when they realize centrists, independents and disenfranchised Democrats will vote for him too. That would likely be enough to take Obama out. It's a gamble but the only shot the GOP has. If they're concerned about his age or if he's not 'churchy' enough, throw a young bible-beater on the vice ticket to keep them happy.

        I'm a registered Democrat in a liberal state, voted for Obama, who now, like most people, sees that this tug of war from the left to the right is going nowhere. And if Paul runs on that, Obama is out.

        But then, the real work begins. We need Washington essentially disassembled and rebuilt to serve ALL classes, low, middle, AND upper, while passionately focusing on the first two. Create a huge corporate tax for companies that employ overseas labor, and THAT will level the playing field and motivate corporations to consider keeping their jobs here.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:00 am |
    • Jon

      There is no way that I will ever vote Republican again - as I had before and during college. The Republican GOP Party cares nothing of the middle- and low-class. Romney and Huntsman are probably the most moderate candidates... but the fact that they have an (R) after their name is scary at this point. I am in no mood for the Republican Party's idea of "Capitalism" - which seems to equate to more power for corporations, no bankruptcy for student loans, and against the idea of a nationalized health care - which has been adopted by other first-world nations, including Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Sweden, United Kingdom - and countless others.

      I am 24 years old. I will be voting Democrat.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:14 am | Reply
    • Justin

      Obama didn't do anything he campaigned on, I will not be voting for him again this election. My vote will go to Ron Paul.

      He orders arrests on the sick for use of medical marijuana when he campaigned he wouldn't, I guess synthetic heroin is better because it comes in pill form. Kept guitmo open, continued war waging(Only reason we left Iraq is they would agree not to persecute american soldiers), resigning the Patriot Act, NDAA, and now SOPA.

      The last straw is the support for NDAA and SOPA. Signing the NDAA is a sad day in American history the ability to detain and inprision Americans with no trial just sickens me(See Nazi Gestapo act )

      Thank you for the hope and change, all I received was less civil liberties.

      The media might not like Ron Paul but the youth of the nation do.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:24 am | Reply
      • Solitairedog

        Justin, I thought the NDAA applied to American citizens as well, and I was very upset, but a little investigation revealed that it is not true. It doesn't. He got Bin Laden. He said he would. He repealed the DODT policy. He ended the war in Iraq as he said he would. He said he supported our efforts in Afghanistan, he did not promise to end that war at all. Now I can tell you like Paul, and all I can say is that Ron Paul does not support you, not by a long shot. If you get in any kind of trouble at all, even as a victim, Ron Paul will leave you twisting in the wind. He may have some good ideas, but you don't have to elect a nut to use good ideas. Ron Paul the man comes as a package, a dangerous package.

        December 30, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
    • Bob58

      You're age group not voting is what allowed the Tea Baggers to send all those inexperienced angry red necks in to Congress last year .... which now has the lowest approval rating ever.... If half the # came out in 2010 that came out in 2008 , we wouldn't have this Do Nothing but Obstruct Obama Congress.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:33 am | Reply
  6. st

    End the drug war would also be a major youth theme ans many young lives are destroyed by prohibition.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:27 am | Reply
    • Flatsguide

      You sound like a retarded parrot....."End the drug war". That will solve nothing, pothead.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:33 am | Reply
      • stan

        Well, you are one ignorant piece of work. Ending the 'drug war' would indeed do a great many things, such as free up several billion dollars a year. It would empty the overcrowded jails. There would be fewer 'covert' wars as all the three letter agencies would lose their secret funding. Also, a couple corporations on the stock exchange would probably disappear and police agencies would have to return to fighting actual social crimes instead of enforcing state dictated morality. Funny how the vast majority of drug prohibitionists abuse alcohol and prescription drugs.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:38 am |
    • Marc

      Absolutely agree, but it's political suicide. First you need to nix this whole religion fantasy. Then the entire "morale majority" need to learn to read a book or two. Finally, you need to put congress in a minivan and hotbox them for about 10 minutes. I guarantee that a few "conflicts" would end and things would go forward. Fear and power are not as powerful foes as we may think, we just need to "chill" from time to time to see just how ridiculous these emotions can make us..

      December 30, 2011 at 11:50 am | Reply
  7. thedude

    FYI CNN – Everyone has given up on Obama.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:30 am | Reply
    • tom

      Yes and who do you think is good to be president, Sarah "moma grizzly" Palin? Old faithful (with his wives) Newtie boy?

      December 30, 2011 at 9:36 am | Reply
      • Heather

        Using insulting names for one's opponents seems to be the sole intellectual contribution of the liberal left these days. I remember a time when liberals did more than name-call. People like you are an embarrassment to a once-honorable political philosophy.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:11 am |
      • Matt in OH

        Wow heather. You say name calling in the cornerstone of the liberal left and that this practice is pathetic but in the very next post you call us all idiots. So i will fulfill your stereotype with one last name just for you: hypocrite.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:50 am |
      • StopLying

        "Idiot" isn't a name. It's an adjective. Don't be an idiot.

        December 30, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • Heather

      In 2008 our country was hijacked by a shyster from Chicago using "hope" and "racism" as his main talking points. Odd mixture, don't you think, for someone who claimed he would be a uniter? The little girl singing the "Obama" song - like children in the 1950s used to sing about Jesus - will remain forever emblazoned in my brain as emblematic of the cool aid everyone, especially the media, were drinking. Speaking of HOPE, I hope the idiots who voted for him last time will stay home this time.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:07 am | Reply
      • lmao

        y u sound so mad heather?

        December 30, 2011 at 10:34 am |
      • gar

        Heather Hypocrite-
        Only a reactionary idiot would post something as completely ridiculous as your comments.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:35 am |
      • gar

        Using insulting names for one's opponents like "shyster" and "idiot" seems to be the sole intellectual contribution of the reactionary right these days. People like you are a further embarrassment to a completely dishonorable political philosophy.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:38 am |
      • Hot Carl

        Heather, you're right.
        Blacks voted for him because he was, well, BLACK. Guilty, self hating liberal whites voted for him to show that they could vote for a black guy. "Look at me, I'm a white guy voting for a black! See, I'm cool!" He won because 2 groups of people had something to prove.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:54 am |
      • Marc

        Heather, he is black, get over it. No, really, in your heart, get over it. It's ok to let go of what you believe and embrace reality. You have more issues than a black president Heather, I bet you your Dad a racist as well. I'm sure you don't use the "n" word at family dinners but in your hearts, that what they are. So hide the "white women" until we can get a true upstanding citizens like Cain, nah, didn't work out...Palin, nope, Perry, can't talk good...Newt, really?...seriously?, how about Bachman?...mhouahahaha, I think in the series finally, all these debates will be revealed to be an elaborate SNL skit. Heather, sleep with a black guy, it's what you really want don't you?

        December 30, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • Dave

      Pfft. You wish. There isn't anyone in the GOP field that offers anything, and doesn't scare the pants off anyone that is not an internet troll like yourself. Obama 2012. Four more years are coming. Deal with it.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:29 am | Reply
    • Bob58

      Basing that on the 8% approval rating the 2010 Elected Anti Obama Congress has? The lowest in History? Get ready for 4 more years ..... Maybe he'll double the Dow Jones again.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:36 am | Reply
      • Eric

        Just for context. Doubling the DOW is not hard when it was halfed when he took office. Bush almost doubled it in his term. As did clinton and reagan. The fact that the DOW doubled and the economy as a whole is still stalled should point out something woefully obvious to the rest of us. He is a big business supporter. He has built wall st back up on our backs. He is as harmful as the right in opposite ways. A vote for anyone at this point is a vote for complete and utter failure. But hey man he single handedly doubled that DOW. You say it as if he is the one pulling all the strings that make that number move.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:31 am |
    • jasper

      yes, i voted for obama last time... have since threw away my t-shrit... this time I'm supporting Romney

      December 30, 2011 at 11:12 am | Reply
    • Pete

      Is everyone having given up on him why he soundly beats every Republican challenger out there in x vs y polling? Don't let facts get in the way of your roll, though. We have, however, pretty much given up on Congress. That the Republican minority can filibuster and stall everything the Dems try to do is a major failing in it's operational structure.

      December 30, 2011 at 11:30 am | Reply
    • ed galbraith

      Just the kind of well-thought-out comment I'd expect from someone named "dude"

      December 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Reply
  8. Jess C

    If they think Obama is bad, the alternative is 100 times worse! That ought to be motivation enough to vote for Obama because by not voting for him you are making it easier for the GOP to regain power and send this country back into a death spiral like the did in the past. Obama is not perfect, no one is, but at least he's more aligned with the middle class than the GOP who pander only to the wealthy and greedy corporations. Don't be foolish.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:31 am | Reply
    • SilverHair

      Well said.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:37 am | Reply
    • bILL

      You mean his more aligned with public sector unions and welfare moms.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:44 am | Reply
      • Akimine Kamijo

        You WANT to be affiliated with those groups, Billy boy!

        December 30, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
    • LutherB

      I couldn't have said it any better. People think that a President just does things with a magic wand. Truth is, he needs help from Congress to get anything done. Vote for Obama and any Democrat in your district. Republicans will destry the economy even further.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:47 am | Reply
      • Flatsguide

        Only if they have birth certificates!

        December 30, 2011 at 10:35 am |
    • Lee Van Cleef

      you forgot to mention the religious nutbags in your list of GOP crowd pleasers.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:00 am | Reply
    • eloc35

      How is he aligned with the middle class? None of them are.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:33 am | Reply
    • Flatsguide

      Aligned with the muslims and socialists.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:34 am | Reply
    • Eric

      Yes only the right pander to the rich. Except the rich are more aligned with the left. All of obamas fundraisers have been with the rich. He has recreated the wall st that got us here on the backs of americans. He has made more bailouts for the rich than the rest. He has created huge deficits mostly to save corporate america. It is sad how equally delusional the far left has become in comparison to the far right. With morons like you who think Obama is for the middle class we have no chance. The left and right will use tools like you until they both destroy this country.

      December 30, 2011 at 11:36 am | Reply
  9. Patty

    Obama is destroying the Future of our Youth!!

    December 30, 2011 at 9:34 am | Reply
    • POD

      As opposed to Bush I and II who destroyed the Youth of Our Future in Iraq and Afghanistan

      December 30, 2011 at 9:38 am | Reply
    • Breck

      How exactly is Obama destroying the future?

      December 30, 2011 at 9:42 am | Reply
      • Lee Van Cleef

        that's not important to these people. what IS important is that if they say it often enough, suddenly it become true.

        December 30, 2011 at 9:58 am |
    • Bob58

      By almost Doubling the Dow Jones since his 5th week in office? By providing you with Health Care? By keeping unemployment WELL Below Conservative Messiah Reagans 10.8%, without Ronnies ELEVEN Tax Increases? By deporting a record # of illegals? By bringing home the Troops IMMEDIATLY after Bush's promise to keep them there through 2011 was met? By REGULATING Bush's Wall Street Bal Out and returning a PROFIT? By saving the Auto Industry? By getting Bin Laden? By forcing out Gadhafi? By drastically slowing down the 2.4 million US Manufacturing jobs that were lost to China from 2001 to 2008?

      December 30, 2011 at 10:41 am | Reply
      • Eric

        For context bob which you lack. Reagans unemployment was inherited from his predecesor. I mean it is W's fault now so its only far that Carter was to blame then. Oh wait it was both sides fault naw thats to deep for your dense head. Doubling the DOW has been done by many presidents whats harder is doubling it and increasing the welfare of more than rich. He has done what I have come to expect. That is to pander to the mega corporations as any good president should. But hey keep living in your delusion world where one side is really better lol. When 80% believe one side is better we all lose. Well except for the rich who are making it seem that way for their gain.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:41 am |
  10. David

    Hope?, more like "Hoax". Hitler fooled the youth too. Time to clean house.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:34 am | Reply
    • Breck

      Really? Comparing Obama to Hitler? Hitler ordered the execution of 6 million people. What is wrong with you?

      December 30, 2011 at 9:43 am | Reply
    • ialsoagree

      Godwin's law, sometimes it doesn't take very long at all...

      December 30, 2011 at 9:44 am | Reply
      • Lee Van Cleef

        the intensity of the intelligence vacuum is directly proportional to the decrease in time it takes to reach Hitler.

        December 30, 2011 at 9:56 am |
    • johnborg

      Why do right-wingers always compare Hitler to Obama? Hitler was an authoritarian fascist. Fascism is a right-wing phenomenon, for the most part. It is much easier to compare someone like Romney, Perry, or Gingrich to Hitler than Obama based on their social policies. By the way, Hitler's "National Socialism" has nothing to do with what you think Socialism is. There is a lot more meaning beyond the words. Also, stop calling Obama a socialist. As a socialist, I am offended. Obama is a lover of capitalism, I don't want him on my team. He, and the rest of the Democratic party, are only slightly more to the left of the GOP in economics, but they would still be considered right-wing economically.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:45 am | Reply
      • thedude

        "we are socialists, we are enemies of today's economic system for the exploitation of the weak, with its unfair salaries..., and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

        – Adolf Hitler, speech to nationalsozialismus (nazi) rally, may 1 1927

        December 30, 2011 at 10:04 am |
      • Flatsguide

        Both are Socialist meglomaniacs that want to rule the world. The only difference is that Hitler had a birth certificate.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:06 am |
      • gar

        You sound like another pathetic reactionary.

        December 30, 2011 at 10:41 am |
      • Allinyourface

        You're quoting Hitler 1927? You're quoting a statement from Hitler before he was in power? Look dude, go back to school and learn your history. Hitler adopted Mussolini's fascism once he was in power. He used socialism to get people to ride his ride.
        I hope this clear things up for you:
        Fascism = "all for the state"
        Nazism = "all for the race"

        December 30, 2011 at 11:14 am |
      • Akimine Kamijo

        Hitler wanted to attract people who would have otherwise voted socialist by providing job programs, etc. But in terms of political philosophy Hitler was clearly right wing

        December 30, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
    • Lee Van Cleef

      since when did an attempted extermination of a race of people ever come remotely close to failed financial campaign promises regarding student debt? please elaborate because i am dying to know.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:52 am | Reply
    • Bob58

      Hitler was a conservative.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:43 am | Reply
      • Eric

        Yep you are correct good thing that poli sci major is paying off... or was it philosophy... Glad you could chime in to remind all of us rational people and bring us back to the obvious.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:44 am |
    • Marc

      My 5 year old has a more informed opinion, and he's a freaken Maoist!

      December 30, 2011 at 11:58 am | Reply
  11. PAPilot

    "Youth" have no patience and were expecting to wake up on January 21st to a brave new utopian world where the rainbow colored unicorns sh4t cheeseburgers.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:35 am | Reply
  12. Randy

    Obama scammed his base supporters in favor of Goldman Sachs. Try America Elects as the only hope of electing an honest person.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:35 am | Reply
  13. Ed

    Just graduated in May, product design. All the people in my class are working at good jobs now. Learn a skill, learn to make something, learn to fix something. I have friends with psychology degrees working in carpentry. Its sad. Blame yourself for going into a over-saturated field.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:36 am | Reply
    • johnborg

      While I think you are right, I don't think it is necessary to do something you don't like. Honestly, if you look at the statistics, most college students don't work in a field that relates to well to their degree. What matters IS the degree! So, major is something academic and demonstrates that you know how to critically think! Yet, I'm not sure businesses want you to critical think to much – they like stupid puppets who don't question their subordinate too much.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:41 am | Reply
      • bird

        the worth of a college degree is so overblown it is ridiculous. All it proves is that u could complete college. In real-world terms, it means absolutely nothing. One of the biggest forms of discrimination of all times! If businesses hired smart people, instead of only college grads, America may go back to our once proud status.

        December 30, 2011 at 9:50 am |
    • D

      I agree... People need to learn to survive

      December 30, 2011 at 9:51 am | Reply
  14. POD

    HELLO LADY......Wake Up Call to all within the Fantasy Island called the DC Beltway. Most people that I know (young and old) have given up on the entire political process and both major parties.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:36 am | Reply
  15. johnborg

    The youth have given up on Obama, but they aren't looking for another candidate. Historically, youth voters have the lowest turn-out rate. While last year was an exception, it will be going back to normal in 2012. The majority of college dreams are aware of the dreadful implications of the GOP candidates economic plans, but Obama isn't much better. He made promises and didn't keep them.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:39 am | Reply
  16. Are youkidingme

    Absolutely without question.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:39 am | Reply
  17. Eric

    For me it's neither an Left or a Right thing. I'm completely disenfranchised with both of sides. As the past 2o years have shown the only thing either side is out for is screwing over the middle class.
    Tax breaks for the super rich.
    Free trade agreements that makse it easy for US corporation manufacturing jobs to be moved to our chief economic rival (China).

    Both sides sicken me to death.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:39 am | Reply
    • glyder

      yeah,must be like sucking s#** through a crazy straw.and so is reading some of these comments from the fan clubs of the demlicans and republicrats.it's real hard and leaves a bad taste at the end.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:48 am | Reply
      • Eric

        Not the same eric but is is funny to watch... I even like to troll from time to time cause politics is a sure fire way to get a reply from biased morons.

        December 30, 2011 at 11:47 am |
  18. Tiffany

    It is so sad that the main stream media need to make up stories in order to make the republican party legit. You do not have to worry about President Obama but you do need to focus on the 12 so-call front runners the republican party has had in the last two months alone. Anyone with a brain know that President Obama will get another term so deal with it.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:40 am | Reply
    • glyder

      the media creation continues.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:49 am | Reply
  19. Matthew Smith

    The question should be, "is he advocating for things that address the needs of the youth?" The answer is yes. The problem is, he doesn't make these things happen, it's congress. A congress that is now comprised of enough of his sworn enemies that nothing he even suggests that can actually help, gets passed. If the young people want to blame someone, they should blame themselves for not making sure that this president had the congress he needed to make all his "hope / change" rhetoric a reality during the mid-terms.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:40 am | Reply
    • eloc35

      He had control for his first 2 years and told the repubs its our turn now. So he does the same thing they did to him. What a CHANGE.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:41 am | Reply
    • krys

      not having a congress that works with him is no excuse, Obama had a supermajority in congress for the begining of his term and yet no one brought ups a simple term for those tax breaks for the rich, REPEAL THE TAX BREAK, with a supermajority that could have been his first order of business, that would have brought in tax revenue to pay for the wars or help the students or help the debt, instead he spent all his time whining and crying to the general public about how Obamacare was in danger of not passing because there was a republican out there somewhere in the world, with a supermajority he could have done anything, somehow the republicans do not have a problem of passing their aggendas but the democrats do.

      Obamacare was a travesty with them trying to pass it, "you can't see whats in it till you pass it", and when you pass it you find out there is no basic consumer protection whatsoever, a simple line such as insurance companies can not raise premiums more than cost of living percentage or something.

      as far as taxes, he failed on that, in the begining of his term he should have gathered all his democrats and REPEAL BUSH ERA TAX CUTS, but noooooo, because he gets covered by those tax cuts.

      did he end any wars? negative to that, infact, he started another war in Lybia supporting terrorists in their attempt to overthrow a legitimate government, and yes, the freedom fighters in Lybia are current standing members of organizations that western governments have labeled as terrorist organizations, simply for oil, and you can not even argue that we had no real major role in it because we let NATO take the lead, WE ARE NATO, and it was US aircraft performing airstrikes, next is Syria and Iran and Yemen and others.

      as for Jon the college grad who is in debt for 150K, i bet you voted for Obama, good for you, how is that hope and change working out for you? i Hope you have some CHANGE in your pocket

      December 30, 2011 at 3:22 pm | Reply
  20. C Tran

    Obama made promises w/o knowing how to fulfill them. Fact 1, promise to close Gitmo: Unfullfilled. Despite Executive Order 13492 signed January 22, 2009 by Obama, Gitmo remains open today. Fact 2, promise to release Abu Ghraib photos: Unfullfilled. He later said "Releasing the photos could have a "chilling effect" on further investigations...." Fact 3, candidate Obama boasted his "working across the aisle skills" which proved to be non-existent during debt ceiling and (not so) super committee negotiations. The bottom line is how many promises of CHANGE made realized? Don't you get the feelings Obama promises of CHANGE only to get votes without any ideas how to fulfill the promises? Obama fooled voters in 2008 to vote for him; shame on him, but if you let him fool you AGAIN this time, SHAME on YOU!!!!!

    December 30, 2011 at 9:41 am | Reply
    • ialsoagree

      Show me a better candidate and I'll definitely consider them.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:54 am | Reply
      • Allen

        Clinton, Romney, Gingrich, Palin, any Governor, almost any American citzen that has ever really done any work in life.

        December 30, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
  21. DA

    Based on the following misplaced modifier, it may be t-shirts who have given up on President Obama. "t-shirts are worn out from too many days sitting on the couch unemployed" Those t-shirts need to stop crying and work harder! Stupid, lazy t-shirts.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:41 am | Reply
  22. Jt_flyer

    Given up on Obama? Not if they want government jobs.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:42 am | Reply
  23. demihuman

    No – we have not. And most 18-24 year old kids don't know what the f c u k they are talking about. Feeble minded and easily swayed. Not all of them..but most.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:42 am | Reply
  24. Dave

    Colleges and Universities charging students $50,000 a year is the source of student loan debt. The message isn't to run up student loan debt and not worry about it – just claim bankruptcy after you finish, isn't the answer. Why should the taxpayers have to pay more money to keep bailing everyone out? Forget the votes and do what's right. The report just came out that an immigrant comes into this country every 47 seconds. Jobs can't keep up with the increase in illegal immigration. Hire more national guard to protect our borders and then the students can get their student loan forgiveness.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:45 am | Reply
  25. GOPisGreedOverPeople

    The GOP mantra: Turn all the Old, Sick, Non-white, Non-christian, Unemployed, and Gay people into slaves. Then whip them until they are Young, Healthy, White, Christian, Employed, and Straight. Or until they are dead. Then turn them into Soylent Green to feed the military.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:46 am | Reply
    • Big Bob

      Jeez Louise! You make that sound like a bad thing!

      December 30, 2011 at 9:58 am | Reply
    • Dan

      So, do you believe that the greed of the masses (socialism) is better than the greed of the few (capitalism)? Greed is greed. Just because the poor and middle classes envy the rich, does not mean they have a right to take what they have. This of, of course, does not excuse the excesses of the wealthy or their greed.

      December 30, 2011 at 11:12 am | Reply
  26. GozieBoy

    Why doesn't CNN show a more representative photo of Obama (on golf course in Hawaii; with half a head of gray hair), than this old PR photo? Oh yeah, the MSM are doing their best to buff up their man, since his record stinks so bad.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:47 am | Reply
    • Dave

      Same time: Bush 180 days vaction at his ranch versus Obama's 68 days.
      a presidential vacation away from the White House is not the same as a vacation for the average person. The president is still in contact with his advisers and on call for any emergency

      December 30, 2011 at 10:45 am | Reply
      • glj

        Dave do you have facts to backup your claim. Until you post a link that is non-biased I cannot take your claim as real.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
  27. Matt

    Well, he lost the social liberal vote. He thinks gays are good enough for canon fodder, but not for equality. He engages in unilateral military action. He nominates a drug war hawk to head the DEA and sends federal actors to crack down on medical marijuana dispensaries. He's not opposed to sending more jobs overseas via free trade agreements. His office gave BP the green light for the horizon oil well disaster. He's done nothing to bring the bankers who created the economic mess to justice or even give them a hard incentive not to do it again. If Obama is going to be that much of a neocon, why not just elect a Republican, at least we'll get to keep our guns instead of having that creepy Eric Holder wringing his hands waiting for an excuse to grab them.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:53 am | Reply
  28. thedude

    Well, like Obama like never like sent me a like a government check or nuthin for like votin for him like the dems like promised so now I'm like totally disgusted so I'm gonna like smoke a big doobie and like get like totally wasted and then like hop on my skateboard and like cruize down to the OWS rally.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:54 am | Reply
    • ialsoagree

      Probably didn't get your check because they went to all the red states – red states taking up more than 50% of the federal welfare and unemployment budget.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:59 am | Reply
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      December 30, 2011 at 10:12 am | Reply
  29. JD

    I voted for Obama and his time in office has convinced me even further that I made the right choice. The Republicans continue to show how little they care about the regular person by blocking anything that Obama is trying to get done. We need to get more Republicans OUT of office so the middle class can survive instead of falling into the welfare lines.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:54 am | Reply
  30. Tired!

    I am a REPUBLICAN always have been. I am so disgusted with my party this year I will support Obama.

    December 30, 2011 at 9:57 am | Reply
    • gordotaco

      having your name on a piece of paper that says republican does not make you one. go join the kool-aide party.

      December 30, 2011 at 10:11 am | Reply
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