Editor’s Note: Geneive Abdo is the director of the Iran program at The Century Foundation. Reza H. Akbari, the research associate for the program, contributed to this article.
By Geneive Abdo – Special to CNN
As Iran issued another threat on Tuesday, this time to take action if the U.S. Navy returns an aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf, it might seem that the government in Tehran is begging for a military attack.
Why else would the Iranian regime test fire a cruise missile during exercises in the Persian Gulf on Monday? Why would it threaten to close the Strait of Hormuz two weeks ago while also conducting 10 days of military exercises to show off Iran’s military might? In addition, Iran’s nuclear agency said its scientists had produced their first nuclear rod, despite tough sanctions from the United States, the United Nations and the European Union.
But Iran is not begging for a military confrontation. It’s recent aggression is due, in fact, to its fear of a pending military attack. My sources inside the country say the circle of regime insiders around Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei truly believes an attack is inevitable, perhaps even before the U.S. presidential election. Therefore, to save face at home and in the region, Iran’s saber-rattling has reached a fever pitch.
In order not to appear weak in light of the pressure coming from the United States, Iran is determined to show it maintains the upper hand, which it tries to demonstrate through its military exercises, threats and hostile rhetoric. But such behavior, which Iran believes demonstrates its strength and some in the United States view as aggression, should not be misunderstood as Iran provoking the United States to launch a military attack.
The more candidates running for election in the United States publicly endorse a military attack, and the more the Obama administration is forced to appear hawkish, the more the Iranian regime works to prepare for what insiders believe will be a hit on the country’s nuclear facilities if not the population.
Despite the fact that the legitimacy of the Islamic Republic has depended upon an ideologically-driven foreign policy for more than thirty years – no normalized relationship with the United States and no recognition of the state of Israel – this in no way means Iran wants a military conflict. There is a difference in finding virtue in the distance between Iran and Western powers, as the regime has done since the Islamic revolution, and risking self-destruction.
As much as American pundits and politicians highlight the hostile statements coming from Tehran, a closer examination reveals Iran’s backpedalling in recent days.
Iran’s vice president appeared definitive when he threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz if further sanctions are imposed on Tehran. “If we cannot export oil, not a drop will be allowed to be exported by anyone else,” said Muhammad Reza Rahimi, Iran’s first assistant president.
But since then, commanders in the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps have retreated somewhat by explaining that passage through the Strait is a weapon Iran would use only if necessary. “We will respond to any threat by intensified threat and this fact has no time or geographical limitations,” said Brigadier General Hossein Salami, Lieutenant Commander of the IRGC. He added, “Our response to threats is threats.”
Another IRGC commander also backed away from threats to close the Strait. Masoud Jazayeri, a powerful general, tried to retreat from the brink by saying such talk is five years old and Iran has other options to defend itself “when the time comes.”
American policy makers and pundits should use their imagination to see the view from Tehran. Influential Americans sound the daily call for action to be taken against Iran, even though most fail to explicitly spell out the details. Compound this with a long-standing belief of Supreme Leader Khamenei that the United States’ objective has always been regime change in Iran. The small circle around Ahmadinejad and the Supreme Leader himself believe they are engaged in a new cold war, which has been hotter than that between the U.S. and the former Soviet Union, characterized by covert operations inside their country including the assassinations of nuclear scientists, a computer virus and attacks on Islamic Revolutionary Guards posts.
These Iranians belief that this “soft war” is a prelude to real war on the horizon.
Despite the failures of President Obama’s engagement policy with Iran during the early period of his administration, there was one important success, which is often forgotten: Obama managed to convince at least part of the Iranian people that the United States was not in conflict with them, but their government. This message found particular resonance with at least some young Iranians who want to become part of the globalized world. However, with the approval of the most recent sanctions on Iran’s central bank, it is likely Iran’s business class will blame Obama. They have witnessed a depreciation of 10 percent in their currency just in the last week.
Now, Khamenei and his hard-line loyalists have just received the evidence to undo this delicate and newfound trust between Americans and Iranians. Both Khamenei and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in recent months have used the bellicose rhetoric from Washington to argue at home that the United States is at war with the Iranian people. This serves many useful purposes for the regime, including justifying repression against those who are accused of being “spies” for the United States who in reality are working toward positive change in Iran.
But in the end, Iran wants to move away from the brink. Cooler heads in Washington should do their part to end the escalation of hostility before the regime’s perception becomes reality.
The views expressed in this article are solely those of Geneive Abdo.
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What the Iranians and the Americans need to do is to get together and try to find a way out of this! It seems so stupid that the politicians in Washington act like they never even heard of negotiations before. What I find to be most sickening here is these right-wing nutjobs clamoring for another war in the Middle East on this web page. Like I said before and will keep on saying is that their is absolutely no glory in war, especially a one-sided one!!!
After losing several billions of dollars supporting the Iraq regime fighting Iran. I doubt America are willing to sit down with them for negotiations. They are deemed a "Possible" military threat to the other countries, including the UAE.
You compare UAE a country that was created in 1971, the size of a PEANUT with that of Iran (Persia) 5000 years history and culture??? WOW! lol - talk about HATERS!!
The US spent billions to sack an anti-Iran Suni regime and ultimately put in place an Iran friendly Shia group. Perhaps you are right, the same idiots are probably willing to spend our treasure and young lives for another adventure. The real loser is the American public, adding to the US debt and making us hated in the ME region. Anyone with a bit of curiosity should research on how the CIA deposed a democratically elected Prime Minister in Iran in the 1950's to reinstate the hated Shaw (King) for the sake of oil companies. Talk about promoting Jeffersonian democracy in the region. LOL!!!!! The fact is Israel commands the US to do what it wants, Iran is a good distraction to justify not making peace with the Palestinians, and Obama is just another Isaraeli-dominated whimp. Let the conflict begin and don't cry when oil hits $200pb and big oil is making record profits.
There are only two ways out. The U.S. can allow Iran, a state that sponsors terrorism, to acquire nuclear weapons. Iran can agree to allow the world to monitor every aspect of their emerging nuclear technology.
Neither has any chance of happening. The U.S. would have to forsake its safety, and Iran would have to forsake its pride.
Iran doesn't support terrorism anymore than the US does (israeli terror, south american terror, arab dictators ...), so I hardly see why this would matter at all.
Then I don't see a problem with US letting Iran make their nuclear weapon by your standards Howard. US already allows a nation that commits terrorist acts EVERYDAY have nuclear weapons, Israel. Why should Iran be any different?? Please explain??? And don't tell me GOD promised the Israelites the land they are wiping the indigenous people off!
Indeed, another war will be senseless. What is going on between the U.S. and the Iran is a psychological warfare. Iran threatens to close the Strait of Hormuz, which would lead to a surge in oil prices in this election year. The West knows that Iran will cut its own throat by closing the Strait, as it stays in power because of the sale of oil. So it presses for tighter sanctions on Iran. The danger is that a small group within the Revolutionary Guards could get worked up by the anti-West sentiment and would lose sanity. The escalation of the conflict could lead to irreparable damages.
frankly, Ms Abdo's article appears to be double talk. She suggests Iran is just blustering for internal politics but doesn't deny that Iran threatens the eradication of Israel and doesn't deny Iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb. She cant have it both ways. She appears to want the US and the rest of the world to believe that Iran is a good guy just pretending to be bad. I dont think the rest of the world is as dumb as the Persians think we are
We, the Europeans have tried to talk for about 5 years. Don't you understand.... Iran is not listening. They have a goal... their bomb, and are determined to develop it. Another goal is to destroy Israel, and the Iranian leadership appears insane enough to eventually detonate a bomb in order to accomplish this goal. Israel is a very small country. One or two atomic bombs would destroy the nation for years. Israeli's want a place to live, and Iran wants them out. Solution... destroy Iran's ability to make a bomb and move on. Too much time is being spent on these silly leaders and their silly goal of destruction.
you got that right BRAINWASHED but you are the victime of your own ignorance and the real problem is they are many
american like you who believe evrything their governement(and media) tell them and are scared at any non white peaple
american are so racist and scared they spend hundreds of billion on military and let died their own sick peaple
and you got to be really really stupid to think iran would nuke israel assuring they own destruction please get a grip on reality
they need a nuclear weapon for their own protection from bullies(USA) and no im not a muslim and im white but im ashame
of white peaple like you who get manipulated like that open your eyes and before posting and talking about something
do ypur homework the same bull we heard about sadam and iraq they are at it again with iran (you make me sick)
General Salami and Private hamburger said. No buns no lunch. Hahaha, Have a Happy New Year!!!
Good article. I would add that there seems to be some policy disconnect within Tehran between the Foriegn Ministry-which is busy trying to get talks going before EU sanctions can be agreed to and put in place-and harder line elements which seem to pushing Iran into more bellicose actions and statements. Who's in charge? Who should we be talking to? Also, have you been reading what is coming out of Iran's press outlets? Pretty heated stuff. Tehran may corner itself at home... and lose credibility among its' "base" supporters if it fails to live up to its' threats. Dangerous stuff. Clearly, lack of diplomatic contact between the two nations is now dangerous.
Time to go to war and end this regime. We didn't attack Hitler in time and by the time we did it cost us a fortune in innocent lives, soldiers lives and in money.
Great idea, Scotty! You first.
Great answer!
Now imagine 1940... and your comment to Scotty – "you go to war... I will just turn on my cozy sofa and switch to HGTV and look and nice houses..." while Hitler is killing millions of people.
What is this non sense you're spewing, wit the ra ra ra war drum beat??! What are you talking about? What IRANIAN GREMLINS??? Iran hasn't started a war as teh aggressor for over 200 years. I wish I could say the same thing for us here is the US and our allies. And STOP WARMONGERING on this CNN board!
Republicans used the Hitler analogy to justify "taking out" Saddam Hussein, and it cost us a fortune in innocent lives, soldiers lives and in money. Want to really "take out" the Iranian mullahs? Stop buying gasoline.
It also cost us innocent lives and a fortune when we saved the world from nazism.
ha ha ha the US did not crush Nazism. It did as little as possible to defeat it, then gathered up all the Nazi war criminals and gave them jobs.
@haha
If you tried to be funny – you actually succeeded.
Senf, you're just a WARMONGER on this blog board trying to stir up trouble!
WE KNOW WHAT YOU DOIN'! lol
At the early stage of the Islamic revolution in Iran US and Europe tried to reverse the hand of the clock in Iran through the imposition of 8year war with late Saddam. At the end of those torturous years Islamic Republic of Iran emerged stronger with its influence gaining more popularity. It is not that US and Europe never tried to crush the Islamic Republic of Iran. They did tried but IRI proved uncrushable; believe it or not.
I agree, time to end this regime. I also believe this is a world effort, not just an Ameircan effort and those who aren't on board with this are obviously against a civil humanity!!!!
Here goes another right-wing nutjob trying to glorify war! This bozo needs to be sent to either Afghanistan or Pakistan to find out how glorious war is not!!!
and humanity to you is to attack another country and kill millions of innocent people?
don`t drag the rest of the world into a war that nobody wants
why not and why stop there lets nuke them all iran, china, korea ,iraq,india, pakistan...............
and anybody who disagre with us who might pose a risk in the future or in the past
and anybody who is of a different religion or skin colors or we just dont like
and anybody who compete for jobs or natural resource
and anybody who dont do as told or give us what we wants
so the solution is simple NUKE the planet minus USA
then we dont need military and with the money save we can start spending
that money to help are own peaple
I wonder when China and Russia will get fed up with blatant American agression all around the world? Right now they are sitting back and laughing how we spend ourselves into the poor house by telling everybody how to behave. For example in Afghanistan, the Russians may be selling arms to the Taliban paid for by Saudi money that is money we paid for oil.
When you owe the bank a thousand dollars they have you by the short hairs. When you owe the bank a thousand billion dollars you have THEM by the short hairs. China has allowed its financial future to become linked to America's future. China isn't about to start any type of war and in so doing destroy its largest trading partner.
your theory is correct, unless of course, the currency being loaned has lost its value....like the dollar (world currency) is through inflationary printing. Welcome to the New World Order.
Quite true Paganguy, quite true. Sadly enough, most Americans can't see that. They still feel, however erroneously, that there is glory in going to war!
Yea! The Iranian government is trying not to invite a war with the US but rather to save face as US pressure is mounting on that government to relinquish its nuclear program. Yet you will hear the joker Mitt Romney saying President Obama your Iranian policy is flawed and you're weak. But what do you expect from a Republican loser who has supported an eight year administration that has failed the American people in big time?
There is no easier way to save face that to just shut the he|| up.
You have obviously never met a Persian. They are an extremely proud, if not vain, people who think of themselves as the natural leaders of the Arab world, while being equally proud to not be Arabs themselves. It's a little like the French – they were both once world powers (France in the 1800s, Persia in the 400s) and they have not forgotten it.
save face at the expense of having your people killed? i assume "thinking man" would say yes and that "your'e a troll' whatever that is. from harry Potter?
All Iran ever had to do was:
- Not threaten Israel,
- Not support terrorists who attack Israel,
- Show the world that their nuke program is for peaceful purposes,
- Not kill its own citizens – including Christians,
- Stop acting like medieval Mohammadin morons.
all israel had to do was stop being colonial and occupying and expanding and it would gain the Arab support in the region.
instead the racist nation chose to demonize a people while doing them wrong and demonize a religion to gain world support.
it isn't working. make peace israel. as Clinton said "get back to the damn table!"
While I agree that the colonialism and bull-headedness of Israel is aggravating the problem, saying that the Arab world would accept them if they stopped is ignoring reality. Israel was attacked multiple times by the various Arab nations, and the regimes in those nations have taught that Israel is the cause of every evil in the world. Education is the root problem. You can stop attacks, you can stop colonialism, but they will still hate each other without open minds.
All the arabs have to do is go back to thier own countries,
Jordan, Syria, Saudi, Lebanon and Egypt,
and stop blowing up busses and cafe's murdering Isreali children.
You dont get back the spoils of a war that you started and lost.
"occupying and expanding". you mean after they were attacked in 1948, 1967 and 1973 and moved into the areas from which they were attacked and by the way, continue to be attacked, to stop the daily rocket attacks and suicide bombers. why start a war when all you are going to do is cry and whine when you lose but that being said, if they made peace, like egypt did and got back the sinai then they would no longer be able to portray thmselves as victims and blame everyone but themselves for their misery
you have no idea what you talking about. just go back and watch your american idol and drink beer and pay your tax.
Iran is not a real threat. The real threat is ourselves, the USA, not being able to support its people and the GOP. If it was real, the Iranian Navy is no match for our US Navy anyway, our Navy would respond with definite confidence by sinking the Iran Navy.
imagine all this to save face
Iran slipping away,
either on right or wrong way.
What shall we do?
What will you do?
What will they do?
What will we say?
What will we hear?
Signs of....
1) Iran said, "America and the West just barking. They will not do anything".
Ah.....
2) European Union/German Chancellor said,"We must attack Iran before it builds the 'fuel road', which will be difficult..
Ah.....
3) *Iran tested Missiles.
*Oops.....
4) *Iran built 'Nuclear fuel road.
*????????????????!!!!
5) **Fuel roads, means: reached to Enrichment to converted it into:-
A) URANIUM BOMB and/or
B) PLUTONIUM BOMB.
???????????GOD SAVE US???????????
you israeli troll you
anna: bes to not try our for your grade school debate team in the near future. you need to refine your technique just a bit.
Naw, Iranian troll.
NOPE, Israeli troll.
i'm not sure what a "troll" is but so long as palestinians and their supporters blame Israel [ and the West] for Iran threatening to eradicate Israel,, and refuse to get over the results of the 1948, 1967 and 1973 wars started by them to "push the jews into the sea", and continue to teach their children to hate and that the killing of Jews and other "infidels" gets rewarded, and that bombers of school buses and killers of athletes are "martyrs" instead of murderers they will continue be miserable. They choose to blame everyone but themselves for their claimed victimhood when they should be looking at their own culture
Honestly, who cares if Iran gets nukes? If anything it will make them weaker, because their economy is in turmoil. North Korea has them and everyone on the planet agrees they're the most crazy regime around, and nobody is worried about them. Iran, unlike North Korea, wasn't killing Americans 60 years ago, or 600 years ago, or ever.
I agree, who cares if Iran gets nukes, the only country who cares is Israel. Israel and its Lobby in the US are pulling all the strings on creating a fear of Iran. Nobody cared when Israel started getting nukes. And there are numerous Iranian engineers and doctors in America, specially here in Cali, why would they hurt their own people? Iranians just want money and recognition. Lets not start the same WMD propaganda like Iraq.
everything about Iran in the eyes of the Palestinian/arab/iranian apologists is about Israel or the West. it appears that they cant distinguish between Iran threatening to destroy israel and Israel not threatening to destroy them. Why do they obsess on being the victim rather than the cause of their own misery? why do they send a rocket and get back three and cry "woe is me"? why is their only response to credible criticism is "go back to tel aviv"? why such old, tired and irrelevant rhetoric by someone calling himself a "thinking man'?
you must be one of those Iranian emigres living in the US. if you are you can probably read and you would therefore be aware that not only the Us and Israel fear Nukes in your hand but also England, france, germany, scandinavia, most of the middle east except for syria and in fact, the civilized world. you are afflicted with tunnel vision where all your problems stem from Israel and the US that you ignore the real source of your problems, yourself.
if you wanna know want the persians are doing ,let me enlighten you,iran economy :basket case,massive resource-oil
available markets- non aligned states + pakistan,china north korea-iran response:
build nuclear power stations-free up fuel -profit on oil market- redeem iranian economy -regime happy- contrast that with westwern intrests- you now get the big picture.
Oh go back to Tel Aviv for God's sake. You hype master warmonger!
Pretty circuitous logic to say the least. I see the Iran government as a bunch of bearded old men trying to remain relevant in the midst of an ever awakening public that recognizes their folly.
That said, desperate men often do desperate deeds. History is full of such examples.
Almighty God, save US from Iran's evil act.....
Seriously, what else the World expect from Iran??? Just????????.
The 5 + steps of Nuclear Fuel Cycle and on which Cycle Iran reached, now?
1) Mining, Iran did.
2) Conversion, Iran did.
3) * Enrichment *, Iran did.
4) ** REACTOR ** A) for Medical or/and
B) for Uranium Bomb
5) ** Reprocessing A) for Medical or/and
B) for Plutonium Bomb
For Almighty God Sake, are we the World abandoned Israel??!! Why?!
We are very slow to respond to Iran.
As we all know, the North-Africa and Middle-East uprising consequences brought ISLAMIC POWERS in those Regions. What are the consequences now and for future (if we will survive)???!!!
What the hell the American President and the Congress are doing now??? Election, election, election,......that is all they worry abut.
The central idea of this article is 'ignore Iranian belligerance because I (the writer) am authorized to translate it for you: 'We will blow you up' in Farsi really means: 'Iranians have a fragile reverence for Barack Obama and if you threaten us you will llose this' This when they actually are threatening to close the straights and oil prices are already rising back in the real world. But the author misses the point even more centrally. Even if the military threats and exercises are to save face, it is all the more reason to meet them muscularly. The lesson is: if you threaten militarily we will not only defeat you (which they can turn to martyr like advantage) but we will HUMILIATE you. This is what they fear more than all because there is no forgiveness in that part of the world for the weak and humiliated. In fact THAT is how to bring about regime change in Iran. Not through military 'victory' however defined, but by humiliation of the regime in its own eyes and the eyes of its people. If their nukes are the source of their pride – destroy them. By stealth if possible but destroy them. If their navy is a source of pride sink it. Again not necessarily in a frontal attack. But the people of Iran will not be humiliated. They will quickly abandon those leaders who have led the folly to their shame and turn to the West, if the West (US) is seen to be the strong horse. Listen.
I just think its odd that we in the west are so outraged.
We have always known that by pursuing light water reactor technology for our nuclear power stations, we were facilitating the creation of all the components for nuclear weapons. This was one of the driving factors behind the the tech becoming the ubiquitous method of generating nuclear power (there are many alternatives and we have had experimental reactors up & running since the 50s). Prior to the cold war it seemed useful to build & stockpile lots of nukes, but those days are long past. Non-proliferation has been the goal for a long time, but there has been no corresponding large scale investment into nuclear reactors with safer fuel cycles (e.g. Thorium).
We can't really be surprised that developing nations want nuclear power & have only ourselves to blame that pursuing that goal also allows them a small technological step to create nukes. We should have pursued & implemented safer nuclear power based on safer fuel cycles, yet even today this is seems a low priority. Is this due to vested interests in the current nuclear power industry? Who knows. What is for sure is that situations such as with Iran (where they have pursued what on the surface is a program for civilian use, but could easily be converted for military use) were entirely predictable. Will anything change in the future? Don't bank on it. There's a lot of money tied up in all of this!
This article says,
"... it might seem that the government in Tehran is begging for a military attack.
Why else would the Iranian regime test fire a cruise missile during exercises in the Persian Gulf on Monday?"
Well, has the author heard of maneuvers? Does he know what happens in a maneuver? This comment is indicative of the vacuous nature of this article. Iran is not looking for a fight. But, if the US takes any aggressive action towards it, then Iran will hit all the US Navy ships and bases in the Persian Gulf. Also, if the US prevents Iran from exporting its oil, Iran will close the Strait of Hormuz. So, let us see if President Obama can put his money where is mouth is. It time for the US Administration to stop lying about Iran and its nuclear program. Instead, inspectors should check the Israeli and US nuclear installations.
Quinterius – Iran does not have the capability to close the strait. And they don't have the capability to take on the US Navy. I realize you wish to fantasize that the Iranian theocratic dictatorship has, somehow, cobbled together the power to terrorize the entire world with a few frigates and a fleet of Sea-Rays, but they don't have it. They just don't. Furthermore, closing the Strait, even if it could be done, would alienate their most important ally – China. China gets most of its oil through that strait, and if you cut off their economic lifeline and plunge a nation of 1.3 billion into chaos, you're going to run out of friends in a hurry.
Maneuvers? Feel free. The sea is free for the passage of all, and nations have the right to self-defense forces and militaries, and the right to exercise them. No one is claiming otherwise. Play with your toy navy if it makes you feel better.
Regarding US nuclear inventories, we have disassembled and destroyed thousands of nuclear warheads in the past decades. And we paid to dispose of the Soviet weapons when they couldn't afford to do it themselves. We also welcomed South Africa into the family of nations and they have prospered and become a BRICS since voluntarily giving up their nuclear weapons program and holding free elections. No country has done more to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in the world than the US.
As to Israeli nuclear weapons – prove it. If they do have them, they've had them for decades and they haven't been used despite the fact that the country gets attacked almost every day.
The problem isn't that Iran is trying to save face. The problem is people like you, who just don't understand the equation. Iran thinks it can find a way to win this, nuclearize, and thus prop up a corrupt, violent regime. It's just not in the cards.
"No country has done more to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in the world than the US."
No country has used more nuclear weapons in the world than the US.
Just having nuclear weapons gives any country power over its neighbors. Since Israel has them, (do we really need to prove that?) Iran is compelled to have them since they are enemies. If your enemy had a bomb, wouldn't you want one too? Why do nuke-holding nations have the right to control another nation's nuke-interests? Because supposedly Iran sponsored terrorism? What is terrorism? Its all just aggression and response to aggression.
Obama and others have continually told Israel to stop expanding, did they listen? No, will they listen? No
Until Israel stops expanding it's borders since Operation Focus, since Rachel Corrie got crushed to death by an Israeli bulldozer, since all the terrorism by Israel's Military on the poor Palestinians, since all the U.S.-made-bulldozers destroying Palestinian people's homes, there can't be peace in that region. Why is this so difficult to understand? Why is this ignored by the major media and masses?
After Fukushima, all countries in the world should dismantle all nuclear technology!
Quinterius – Nut Case.
Going In Circles, why don't you go back to Tel Aviv and spare US please. Go fight your own wars, and STOP dragging America down with you for your TWISTED ANCIENT beliefs! Going In Circles, we don't want WARMONGERS in this country anymore. We have seen where it has gotten us. Go peddle your propaganda where it is welcomed in Tel Aviv, nit in America. We don' want your CRAP!
Doesn't make sense, how come you risk neck in order to save face? this has no logic and besides that we have been fighting a proxy war with Iran in Afghanistan and Iraq so I think is time to get them back to apes ages NOW!
You can't expect to threaten any other nation by being in ITS WATER way and expect them to not be upset.
If the Chinese navy was in our waters, we'd say the same warning or worse.
Who is trying to save face ? Even a 2 year old boy can answer. IRAN has nothing to lose in this WAR ?? Uncle SAM
is going to lose a big time. There is a saying " Think twice before you Jump."
Iran's entire population is against their own regime that completely stands alone torturing the locals for decades and threatening the West.
If Iran's regime gets kick from their feet and we drop 10,000 machine guns in Teheran, then their local population will finish them off by taking back power and hang all leaders on Teheran's tree's, never letting radical religious terrorists ever set foot again on Iranian soil.
No collateral damage, preserved civil buildings, cheap, fast and it would make all Iranian civilians eternally grateful to the West!
We don't need to spend another trillion, just use nature's force (their own tortured locals) to deal with their evil leaders !
Here's a simple and successful military program:
Provoke the Iranian military to do something stupid by sailing a US marine boat through the Strait of Hormuz
Air strike some military targets (enough to distract and weakening them a bit)
Let a few stealth bombers drop a massive load of machine guns with ammo out of the sky for the locals
Sit back and relax and wait a month and Iran's regime is overpowered by their own people!
Can't blame the West, cheap, problem solved, what a coincidence !
Ron you're absolutely right in regards to the Iranian People not liking their government. BUT they even like us LESS! I know this for a fact. Although Persians are not Islamists, they're Humanists. They're categorically and 100% against ANY foreign intervention. Again I know this for a fact, because I was on the ground there in 2010 and I talked to ordinary folks in the streets with my funny sounding Persian accent to them. They do not respect us here is the US. They think we're the oppressor of the weak, Especially when it comes to the Israeli Palestinian conflict. And how we have been instrumental enabling the Israelis to put their boot on their Palestinian neighbors neck. They complain that US on one hand advocates democracy and on other hand it vetoes UN Resolutions every time there is action to stop Israel from brutalizing the Palestinians. And Iranians are very proud of being the fist people i world that had a Human Rights charter. They refer to Babylon and how they freed the Jews from bondage in the times of the Egyptian Pharaohs. They will NEVER fight their own government. That's my opinion.
based on the nature of your posts including your ludicrous posting that Israel attacked all it's arab neighbors in 1948 because it "fired the first shot" when sorrounded and threatened with extinction, your anecdotal crap stemming from a visit to iran several years ago is laughable. keep crying about Palestinian/arab/muslim misery while teaching your children to hate and that a murderer is really a martyr.
This administration should have supported the "Iranian Spring" during the uprisings in 2009 by at least voicing their support for the citizens of Iran, but NOOOO. For some strange reason, we were quiet???? Yet, we were so vocal in our support of the rest of the middle east's Arab Spring. Wonder why that is? One can only infer two reason as to why.
First of all, amy, there was never an "Iranian Spring" in 2009 or ever! The trouble in Iran back in June 2009 was instigated by the C.I.A. and the British MI-6 with the possible help of the Israeli Mossad after their candidate Mosawi lost the election to Mahmoud Ahmedinejad. We need to sit down with Iran and find a way out of this quagmire and ignore all these idiotic warmongers here!!!
Onesmallvoice, you're absolutely right. USA and Iran are 'natural' allies. It is a shame we have been bickering with them for 33 years, insted of doing business with them and selling Boeing 747s and million other goods, and create jobs here for us. BUT no we have a handful of warmongers that keep CRYING WOLF! Iran has no been the aggressor in a conflict for over 200 years! Yet they're the warmonger!!! Right! lol
O American How long you all continue to behave like a stupid ? Can anyone here answer my one question . If he or she is brave enough. Why America had toppled Iranian Democratic government in 1953 ? Who support stupid Saudi Arabia regime ?
Me like the word stupid.
Going In Circles, yes you are stupid, I can vouch for that.
The regime in tehran is in big trouble so they are lashing out...the sanctions should keep coming.
read bombiranevilregime.blogspot.com and learn something
I have studied iran and Persian culture. Iran already has nuclear bomb, or a lot of balls to want to go to war with the us. if this war happens you lazy asses suffer. we all REALLY suffer. Iranians are fighting for their ideology and believe as they fought Saddam's forces (supported heavily by the u.s. and other powers) for 8 long years and did not give up one inch of their land. there should be movies on how remarkably they sacrificed their lives for their land .American arm forces especially marines have no ideology and would run if it wasn't for the high tech weapons and our taxes are wasted on. they only understand money and power. by the time this war ends America will have neither. by the way you moron brainwashed idiots are all hostages held by israel. this illegal nation started this mess and knows Americans are stupid enough to fight for them. what these azzholes politicians do for votes! George Washington would spit in their faces. all of them. Ron Paul is the only hope America has got, otherwise is self-destructing herself indirectly of course by AIPAC (israeli spies in America) AND ISREAL.
WELL SAID
I AM SPEECHLESS NOW
Agreed.
Bet ya that i can stomp my feet like a three year old
and have a hissy fit better than you.
Please visit walmart, tin foil hats are on sale cheap.
Going In Circles, I think what you should do is listen to yourself, as you called yourself STUPID a few blog posts up and SHUT UP! Why don't you pack your bags and go back to your Tel Aviv. This is the "US version" of CNN for "Americans" to blog on, not Israeli stooges like you. GO BACK HOME to Tel Aviv. Thanks in advance.
For the past two decades or more US has been invading countries for no justifiable reason. It is therefore reasonable for Iran to take US thereat seriously. For the Islamic republic to bring down US drone with minimal damage speaks a lot of what surprises Iran has for US in the even of any silly move from the Yankees. US and EU accuse Iran of being in possession of nuclear weapons. US and a good number of the EU nations have it. So what qualifies them to have it but not Iran. Particularly so that US was and still remains the only nation that use same weapon on human beings. The memory of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is still fresh.
The memory of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is still fresh.
The memory of Pearl Harbor is still fresh.
They attacked us and declared war.
We finished it.
Got a problem with that towel head ?
Do Not Disassemble, why do you keep copy/paste this STUPID post all over this blog site??? Get a brain so you can be original!
People, this is very serious! The public doesn't even have any clue, what the President, the Congress and the EU up to.
The Iran issue is remain behind closed doors, I believe.
Here are some clues:
A) America keep asking the EU to install Missile shield, the EU and other Countries accepted it. Here is the key and obstacle point; Russia treated the Missile shield very seriously. The Russian officials also mentioned the tough words to America. They said, "We are not afraid to go to war, we don't trust the Missile shield in our back yard, pointing into our Nuclear power". They said this clearly.
B) America said, "The Missile shield is a must. If not, Iran definitely will attack Europe", makes a good sense.
Currently, Russia tested very powerful intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. India, which is a peaceful Country also rented very large Aircraft carrier from Russia, for Ten Years. India said, "To train our Navies".
C) Russia, currently are working to install new oil Refinery near Iran's Nuclear plant. It is the new contract Russia signed with Iran, according to Russian and Iranian News.
D) currently, the Hamass leader is in Iran, invited by Iranian leader.
E) Pakistan and Turkey already had discussions with Iran, not that far from few Weeks ago.
F) if you really, carefully connected the dots from A to E, you will find some result. We don't even know also, the hidden agendas between American Generals and Israel Generals; between the American, Britain and Israel secret agents. It is really a complicated issues.
I bet you believe in the fairy tooth too! oooooooooo, I am Soooo scared!! MOMMY!! LOL
IF OBAMA WANT TO WIN THE NEXT ELECTION HE MUST ATTACK IRAN NOW GET RED OF THIS DARK EVIL EMPIRE OF SHIIA CULT
OBAMA ALSO SHOULD GET RED OF BASHAR AL ASAD OF SYRIA , HIZBOALLAH AND NORI AL HALEKI OF IRAQ THE EVIL HANDS OF IRAN.
iran must be stopped, we must get red of bashar of syria , hizboallah and nori al maleki of iraq those are the evil hands of iran. AND IF ROMNEY WANT TO WIN THE ELECTION HE SHOULD CHOICE MCCAIN FOR VIC PRESIDENT AND BE TUFF ON IRAN.
علمت الرابطة العراقية من مصادرها الخاصة والموثوقة أن القوات الأمنية الحكومية تواصل حملات اعتقال عشوائية بحق أبناء السنة على وجه التخصيص في مناطق متعددة من بغداد منذ يوم الخميس الدامي وحتى هذا اليوم.
فقد قامت القوات الأمنية بمداهمات عشوائية أعقبتها حملات اعتقال جماعي للرجال من ابناء السنة حصرا من منطقة ابو غريب والحصوة وابو منيصير، وقد أعلمنا ضابط يعمل في لواء المثنى بقيادة الطائفي القذر (رحيم رسن البيضاني) أن عدد المعتقلين وصل الى 350 شخصا، وهم مايزالون رهن الاعتقال حتى الآن.
أما في الغزالية فقد نفذت القوات الأمنية حملات مداهمة عشوائية دون مذكرات اعتقال أسفرت عن اعتقال 50 شخصا من ابناء السنة حصرا من مختلف الأعمار.
كما بدأت حملة اعتقالات منظمة منذ ايام في مناطق الدورة والسيدية والعامرية والخضراء وحي الشرطة وحي الجهاد والمنصور، ويتعرض العراقيين من أبناء السنة للاهانات والتحقير والشتائم في نقاط التفتيش التي تحيط بهذه المناطق. ان يكون لقبك الدليمي أو الهاشمي او الدايني او العاني او الجميلي او العيساوي فتهم الارهاب جاهزة وهم مدانون دون أية محاكمة..!
وجدير بالذكر أن أجهزة التحقيق في حكومة المالكي لن تفرج حتى عمن تثبت براءتهم من التهم الموجهة لهم إلا بعد أن تدفع عوائلهم مبالغ تتراوح بين 10 الى 30 ألف دولار، وبحساب بسيط فإن القوات الأمنية سوف تجني من اعتقال 500 شخص ما لايقل عن مليون دولار، وهي خطة منظمة لافقار العوائل السنية وإذلالهم وإهانتهم لاجبارهم على ترك مناطقهم، وهو ما يحقق لحكومة المالكي تحقيق مخطط (بغداد الشيعية).
كما تترك مثل هذه الاعتقالات وما يرافقها من تعذيب وحشي للمعتقلين آثارا نفسية بالغة الخطورة لدى المعتقلين، الأمر الذي يؤدي في كثير من الأحيان الى تحطيم حياتهم الاجتماعية وإصابتهم بعاهات نفسية مزمنة لهم ولعوائلهم.
ومما يؤسف له أن كثيرا من شيعة العراق يصدقون الادعاءات الحكومية باتهام أي شخص سني بالارهاب، بل ويفرح كثير منهم بإيقاع الأذى بأبناء السنة، وذلك بفضل التعبئة الطائفية المتواصلة التي يتعرضون لها في مناسباتهم الدينية من قبل جيش المعممين وقراء المقتل ممن يوحون لهم أن سنة العراق هم أحفاد من قتل الامام الحسين..!
لذا يجدر بنا جميعا أن نتابع هذا الملف الخطير متابعة جادة وننقل هذه المعاناة القاسية لأبناء السنة الى المجتمع الدولي الذي يجهل أو يتجاهل ما تقوم به حكومة المالكي من حملات إبادة جماعية وتطهير طائفي منظم، كما نرجو ممن يمتك أية معلومة عن أي شخص يتم اعتقاله ظلما وعدوانا أن يكتب الينا بالمعلومات أولا بأول.
الصراع الديني آخذ بالتصاعد في الآونة الأخيرة، وتنوعت صوره وأشكاله؛ فمنه على شكل احتلال إقصائي استيطاني إجلائي، ومنه نَفُوذ في شرايين الحياة يرمي إلى إبادة وتصفية دموية وفكرية وسياسية واجتماعية تهدد الوجود مثلما تهدد الهوية العربية والإسلامية، ويسرُّ مجلة البيان أن تستضيف عَلَماً من أعلام هذا الصراع تجمعت فيه فروسية المنافحة بالحجة والبرهان، إنه الشيخ الدكتور (طه حامد الدليمي)، المشرف العام على موقع القادسية، الذي بادرنا بالتعبير عن سعادته وحبه قائلاً: «يسعدني أن ألتقيكم في مجلتكم الرائدة».
البيان: يصنف بعض المتابعين التصعيد الطائفي على أنه مخالف لسنة الله – تعالى – في التعايش والتعارف، كيف توفِّقون بين هذا التصعيد وسُنة التعايش والتعارف؟ وهل تصنفونه ضمن سُنَن التدافُع؟
هذا يؤكد الحاجة إلى مراجعة المفاهيم. يبدو أننا نتحرك في ركامٍ منها ما أحوجه إلى تصفية وتنحية وإضافة لإعادة البناء على عناصر سليمة. فتسمية التصعيد أو الصراع بين الشيعة والسنة بـ (الطائفي)، هو برأيي خطأ فكري وعقائدي مِفْصَلي أو أصولي، والصحيح تسميته بـ (الصراع الديني)؛ فما بين الشيعة والسنة (عقيدةً وديناً وعلاقةً)، أشد وأبعد مما بين اليهود والعرب. وتسمية الأشياء بمسمياتها ليست فناً إنشائياً ولا ترفاً فكرياً، بل هو في صلب الأمر(مفهوماً وبناءً). فما يبنى على مسمى (الصراع الطائفي) يدخل ضمن ما يبنى على مفهوم (الفتنة). أما ما يبنى على مسمى (الصراع الديني) فيدخل في باب (الجهاد). وهذا كله متفرع عن: هل التشيع والتسنن دين واحد أم دينان؟
أما (التعايش) الشيعي السني فنفهمه على أنه عَقْد اجتماعي له طرفان، هما: (الشيعة والسنة). وإذا كان العقد – أيُّ عقدٍ بين اثنين – يبنى على موافقة الطرفين شرطاً أو ركناً، فإن تخلُّف موافقةِ أيٍّ منهما ناقض لماهية العقد. والآن نسأل: هل لدى الشيعي استعداد للتعايش مع (الآخر)؟ أم أن الشيعي كـ(اليهودي) لا ينظر إلى علاقته بالآخر إلا على أنها علاقة وجود لا حدود؟ وما حصل في العراق ولبنان وسورية والبحرين والكويت وإيران شاهد على أن التعايش لم يكن إلا من طرف السنة فقط؛ فحين يحكم السُّنة ينمو الشيعة في ظلهم ليكونوا (دولة داخل دولة)؛ حتى إذا سيطروا بدؤوا باجتثاث السُّنة!
إن الشيعي ملغوم بشيئين: عقدة وعقيدة، وثالثة أخرى: مرجعية إيرانية تقوده باتجاهين: مخالفة وإلغاء الآخر، والتوجه نحو إيران قبلةً وانتماءً وخدمة.فعقيدة الشيعي توجب عليه – بعد تكفير السُّنة – وجوبَ قتلهم وسلبَ مالهم متى ما قدروا على ذلك. وأما العِرض فيؤجل إلى حين مجيء المهدي المزعوم، غير أنهم يمارسون انتهاكه عملياً. كيف إذن يمكن تحقيق التعايش مع فصيل من الناس بهذه العقائد المتخلِّفة؟ فإذا أضفتَ العُقَد النفسية الجمعية – ومنها المظلومية والحقد والشك والغدر واللؤم ضمن عشرين عقدة أحصيتها في كتابي «التشيع عقيدة دينية؟ أم عقدة نفسية؟» – تبين أن سنة الله – تعالى – في التعارف والتعايش قد عطلها الشيعة بأنفسهم.
إن السنن كلها مشروطة بشروط ومقيدة بقيود، إن لم تتوفر باتت لوازمها لاغية من الأصل؛ فوثيقة التعايش التي كتبت بين الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلمواليهود لم يلتزم بها الطرف المسلم من جانب واحد بعد أن نقضها الجانب الآخر. والله – تعالى – يقول: {لَئِن لَّمْ يَنتَهِ الْـمُنَافِقُونَ وَالَّذِينَ فِي قُلُوبِهِم مَّرَضٌ وَالْـمُرْجِفُونَ فِي الْـمَدِينَةِ لَنُغْرِيَنَّكَ بِهِمْ ثُمَّ لا يُجَاوِرُونَكَ فِيهَا إلا قَلِيلاً 60 مَلْعُونِينَ أَيْنَمَا ثُقِفُوا أُخِذُوا وَقُتِّلُوا تَقْتِيـلاً 61 سُنَّةَ اللَّهِ فِي الَّذِينَ خَلَوْا مِن قَبْلُ وَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّةِ اللَّهِ تَبْدِيلاً} [الأحزاب: 60 - 62]. هذه هي (سنة الله) في التعايش مع السفهاء الذين لا يردعهم رادع من عهد أو خُلُق أو رعاية لمصلحة. وهم ثلاثة أصناف (منافقون، ومرضى قلوب، ومرجفون). وعندما نرجع إلى الآيتين اللتين سبقتا: {إنَّ الَّذِينَ يُؤْذُونَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ لَعَنَهُمُ اللَّهُ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالآخِرَةِ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ عَذَابًا مُّهِينًا 57 وَالَّذِينَ يُؤْذُونَ الْـمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْـمُؤْمِنَاتِ بِغَيْرِ مَا اكْتَسَبُوا فَقَدِ احْتَمَلُوا بُهْتَانًا وَإثْمًا مُّبِينًا 58 يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُل لأَزْوَاجِكَ وَبَنَاتِكَ وَنِسَاءِ الْـمُؤْمِنِينَ يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِن جَلابِيبِهِنَّ ذَلِكَ أَدْنَى أَن يُعْرَفْنَ فَلا يُؤْذَيْنَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا} [الأحزاب: 75 - 59]: نفهم أن هذه (سُنة الله) التي لا تتبدل في التعامل مع من آذى النبي في أهله (أزواجاً وبناتٍ)، وآذى المؤمنين في مثل ذلك. فأين تضع الشيعة بالنسبة لحكم هذه الآيات؟
أرى أن المسلمين في حاجة إلى (قرأنَة) مفاهيمهم.
أما التدافع فهناك عدوَّان للمسلمين: الكفار والمنافقون، وكلاهما يجاهَدون بإحدى الوسيلتين (السلمية والعسكرية) حسب الحال. وما يُعرَف من الحكم للمنافقين بأحكام المسلمين، فهذا إنما في حال ما لم يظهروا نفاقاً، أو يحدِثوا حدثاً. والآيات السابقة دليل. وليس السلم مع المنافقين حُكْماً مُطلَقاً في كل حال. ولذلك تفصيل ربما يخرجنا عن السياق.
البيان: إن مواجهة الصراع العقائدي مسوَّغ شرعاً وعقلاً. أما كون الصراع الطائفي أساسه عقدة وليس عقيدة، فهذا أمر يقتضي التفصيل والتأصيل؟
العراق (مطبخ التشيع)؛ فمركز وبؤرة التحدي الإيراني والشيعي في هذا البلد المبتلى على مرِّ التاريخ بهذا التحدي منذ عصور ما قبل الإسلام وإلى اليوم.وعليه فإن (التجربة العراقية) غنية، بل هي أغنى التجارب طراً، وأنضجها. مما أضافته التجربة العراقية – بسبب حدة التحدي وضراوته – البعدُ النفسي الجمعي للصراع الشيعي السُّني. التشيع ليس مشكلة فكرية حتى يعالَج بتصحيح الفكر وحده. ليس هو (سوء فهم) إنما هو (سوء قصد)، كما يقول الأستاذ علاء الدين البصير. خذ مثلاً الكذب عند الشيعة: ليس هو رذيلة يشعر بها صاحبها ويتألم منها حتى يكون ثمة أملٌ في أن يدعها يوماً. إن الشيعي يمارس الكذب على أنه فضيلة دينية يؤجر عليها، وحالة اجتماعية صحية ينتفع من ورائها. انظر إلى وجه السُّني حين يكذب، ترى وجهه يتغير، ولسانه يتلعثم، وحركات يده تختلج. لكن جرب أن تنظر إلى وجه شيعي عـــندما يعبر عن هذه الطبيعــة النفسيـــة المتــأصلة فيــه: لا شيء من ذلك تراه! ثم إن كذب الشيعة من النوع الذي قيل عنه: إن رجلاً قال: إن لأبي قِدْراً عثر به ثور هائج فضاع في جنباته وظلوا يبحثون عنه فلم يجدوه إلا بعد ثلاثة أيام رابضاً في زاوية من زواياه. فقال آخر: وأبي غرس بذرة يقطين على شاطئ بحر فخرجت منها ثمرة كبرت وكبرت حتى غطت سطح البحر وعبرت إلى شاطئه الآخر فاتخذها الناس جسراً يعبرون عليه. فأجابه الأول: ألا ما أكذبك! هلا أخبرتنا في أي قدر يمكن أن توضع وتطبخ؟ فقال: في قدر أبيك الذي ضاع فيه الثور فلم يجدوه إلا بعد ثلاثة أيام!
عندما يقول معمَّم مثل هادي المدرِّسي (والمقطع في اليوتيوب): إن اليمن شيعية، والسعودية أغلبية شيعية، نعم أغلبية شيعية وأقولها بالفم المليان.وعندما تعلن قناة (العالم) الإيرانية أن ثمانية ملايين سيارة (شيعية) خرجت للتظاهر في شوارع البحرين في ما أسموه بـ (طوق الكرامة)، والحقيقة أنه ولا سيارة واحدة (وقد شهدت ذلك بنفسي). ماذا نسمي هذا؟ إنَّ هذا – حسب الوصف الطبي، وأنا طبيب – عقدة متأصلة وليس خَصلة طارئة. عقدة نتجت عنها عقائد وسلوكيات لا تعالج بالوسيلة الطبيعية التي تجنح إلى ملاحظة الفكر وتصحيحه. إنها عميقة الغور في التركيبة النفسية الجمعية؛ بحيث تمارَس طِبقاً للاوعي الجمعي. صراعنا مع الشيعة ليس من النوع البسيط؛ إنه من النوع المعقَّد لابتنائه على عُقَد قبل أن يبنى على عقائد. إن هذا يحتاج إلى عقد ندوات لمناقشته ومدارسته وإقراره منهجياً لإضافته إلى منظومة المواجهة. وقس عليه بقية العُقَد. التشيع عُقَد أنتجت عقيدة وفكراً وسلوكاً، وليس العكس.التشيع عصيٌّ على الفهم والتفسير، بله (المعالجة) دون فهم هذه المعادلة. وقد أتيت عليها في كتابي (التشيع عقيدة دينية أم عقدة نفسية؟).
البيان: لقد كانت لكم مساهمات رائدة في مسألة الأغلبية والأقلية في المجتمع العراقي، كيف توفِّقون بين النظرة القرآنية لهذين المفهومين، والنظرة الواقعية وتداعياتها لا سيما السياسية؟ وهل نحن نعمل على أساس الكم أم النوع؟
احتُل العراق في سنة 2003م بحجة إنقاذ مكوناته من اضطهاد (الأقلية السنية الحاكمة). مع دعوى عريضة بأن الشيعة يمثلون أغلبية المكونات في العراق، وجاء على لسان جورج بوش الابن أن نسبتهم 65% ! وذكر الحاكم المدني بول بريمر في أكثر من موضع في كتابه (عامي في العراق) أن نسبة السنة العرب 19%، بينما أعطى لإخواننا الكرد نسبة 20%، بينما الحقيقة أن السنة العرب ينوف على عدد الكرد بأكثر من ثلاثة أضعاف. فتصور مدى الصفاقة!
وهي النسبة التي اعتادت عليها جميع التقارير الأمريكية التي تُرفَع لمراكز القرار! وأصل هذه الدعوى إحصائية مبتسرة قام بها الإنجليز سنة 1919م لا تصلح أن تسمى إحصائية؛ إنما هي عبارة عن (تخمين ورد في تقارير الحكام السياسيين البريطانيين عن إدارة مناطقهم في وادي الرافدين)[1]. وقد أشاع الإنجليز أثناء احتلالهم العراق هذه الأكذوبة كي يثيروا الشيعة ضد السنة طبقاً لمبدأ (فرق تسد)، وتلقَّفها الشيعة منهم ليبنوا عليها أصل (مظلوميتهم). بينما الحقيقة هــي أن الشيعـــة الـعرب لا يتجاوزون نسبة 35% من العراقيين.
وعندما تُحرَّف الحقائق وتزوَّر وتغطَّى إلى هذه الدرجة، ويكون الكذب من هذا العيار، ويُحتَل وطن على أساسه، ويُجتَث أهل العراق الحقيقيون تبعاً لذلك: لا بد من البيان مقارعة لدعاوى الباطل بدلائل الحق؛ وذلك باستعمال السلاح الذي شهروه نفسه. وقد استعمل أسلافنا هذا الأسلوب، فكثيراً ما يرد شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية على المبطلين مستعملاً من الحجج ما هو من جنس حججهم.
أما إذا أردت المقياس الشرعي للأغلبية والأقلية فليس هو هذا على وجه الدقة. إن الكثرة والقلة ليست هي المعيار في ترجيح كفة على كفة إلا في مسائل محددة. يقول تعالى: {إنَّ إبْرَاهِيمَ كَانَ أُمَّةً} [النحل: 120]. ويقول أحد السلف: «الجماعة ما وافق الحق وإن كنت وحدَك. فالأغلبية الحقيقية للحق وأهله مهما قلُّوا، والأقلية والصَّغار للباطل وأهله مهما كثروا، كما قال – سبحانه -: {كَم مِّن فِئَةٍ قَلِيلَةٍ غَلَبَتْ فِئَةً كَثِيرَةً بِإذْنِ اللَّهِ وَاللَّهُ مَعَ الصَّابِرِينَ} [البقرة:249]. وهذا هو مقياس المنطق والعقل، حتى إن نيتشة يقول: «أنا والحقيقة أغلبية»!
ونحن نقول: (البلد لمن يبنيه لا لمن يبغيه، وهو لمن يحميه لا لمن يشريه). نحن الذين بنيناه، ونحن الذين حميناه. أما الشيعة فشروه للأجنبي وخربوه من قبل أن يحكموه ومن بعد أن حكموه، إلا قلة قليلة منهم.
البيان: يشير بعض المتابعين أن ما تقوم به بعض القنوات الفضائية إنما هو رد فعل على ما تبثه وسائل الإعلام الشيعية، ومعلوم أن ردَّ الفعل عادة يكون ضعيفاً ومحكوماً لا حاكماً، كيف يمكن أن نكون مبادرين في صراعنا مع الصفويين؟
قال لي صديق منذ عشر سنوات: يتهمك البعض بأن موقفك من الشيعة هو رد فعل على ما تعرضَّت له من أذاهم؟ فأجبته: وما الغرابة في ذلك؟ الميت هو الوحيد الذي لا ردة فعل له، وأنا حيٌّ بحمد الله. ليس المهم أن يكون دافع الحركة فعلاً أم ردَّ فعل؛ إنما المهم هو: هل إن حركتي في الاتجاه المضبوط وبالمدى المنضبط؟ أم تريد مني أن أظل جامداً إزاء ما يجترحه الشيعة بحقنا من أذى قبل أن أحسم وصف حركتي: هل هي فعل أم رد فعل؟ هذا منطق غريب؛ فكيف وهم يحاربوننا وجوداً وديناً وموقفاً؟ فكيف وهم يحاربون الله – جل في علاه – جهاراً نهاراً!
هذا إن كان ما نفعله ردُّ فعل. أما الواقع فبعض ما يصدر عنا ردُّ فعل على فعلٍ مقابل، وبعضه فعل يوجبه الدين، ويستدعيه الأهل والوطن. وهذا إنما يكون حين نعمل ضمن مشروع مبنيٍّ على فكرة صحيحة، وهدف واضح، ووسيلة صالحة للوصول، آخذين بنظر الاعتبار الإمكانات المتاحة، والظروف المحيطة.وبذلك نكون فاعلين مبادرين.
البيان: الصراع الطائفي في العراق محطُّ جدل؛ فمنهم من يراه صراعاً سياسياً يوظف الدين والطائفة لكسبه، ومنهم من يراه صراعاً دينياً ومذهبياً يوظف السياسة لتغذيته وتصعيده حتى تتحقق الأهداف الدينية القائمة عليه؟ كيف تصنِّفونه في مشروعكم؟
نحتاج إلى تحرير المعنى المراد بوصف (الطائفي) قبل الجواب؛ حتى نصل إلى النتيجة بعيداً عن الخلط والضبابية:
فإن كان هذا الوصف تعبيراً عن طائفة من البشر، فيبقى السؤال هو: ما الخصائص التي تميز طائفة عن أُخرى؟ ومن المقطوع به أن هذا غير مقصود.
وإن كان معنى (الطائفي) يعبِّر عن المذهبية الفقهية بمعنى أن الخلاف (الشيعي السُّني) خلاف فقهي فهذا باطل.
وإن كان للتعبير عن خلاف في العقيدة ضمن دائرة الإسلام الواسعة كالخلاف مع المعتزلة والأشاعرة وعموم المتصوفة فهذا غير دقيق؛ إذ التشيع دين كامل مناقض بالكامل لدين الإسلام بالكامل، وأوله تكفير المسلمين وأولهم الصحابة، وقد أجمع علماء الأمة من المذاهب الأربعة دون مخالف على تكفير من كفَّر جمهور الصحابة؛ فكيف إذا أضفتَ إليه بقية الموبقات المكفِّرات. هذا ما يتعلق بالتشيُّع دِيناً، فإذا أضفنا إليه ما يتعلق بالشيعة طائفةً معبأةً بهذه العقائد والشعائر والسلوكيات والعُقَد النفسية، وما يصدر عنها لذلك من عداوة واعتداء متعدد الأصناف والأوصاف، اكتملت الصورة وتبينَّ أن ذلك الوصـــف بعــيد كل البعد عن التعبيـــر عنهـــا؛ فوصف (الطائفي) لا ينطبق على الصراع الشيعي السُّني، فليس صحيحاً إذن أن يقال عما هو حاصل في العراق: إنه صراع طائفي؛ فلا هو مستنِد على خلافات فقهية، ولا خلافات عقائدية محدودة. ولا يصدقه الواقع.
إن الفرق بين التشيع والإسلام هو فرق بين دين ودين. والصراع بين الشيعة والسُّنة قائم على هذا الأساس، وليس على أساس آخر. إنه صراع ديني حقيقي، يستند على عقيدة دينية تختلف عن عقيدة الإسلام جذرياً؛ سوى أنها تتخذ من مصطلحاته وأسمائه غطاءً لها. أمَّا أن هناك من يستثمر الدين لأغراض سياسية فهذا لا يغير من الحقيقة شيئاً. وإذا كان هذا هو المعيار السياسي للصراع فالشيء نفسه يمكن أن يقال عن الصراع (الإسرائيلي الفلسطيني)، فيوصف بأنه صراع سياسي، لا ديني؛ لأن السياسيين يوظفون الدين أو الخلاف بين الدينين اليهودي والإسلامي لمكاسب سياسية.
على أنك إذا أردتَ وصف الصراع على وجه الدقة وجدتَه أعمق من سياسي، وأكبر من طائفي، وأوسع من ديني. إن الخلاف بين الشيعة والسنة هو خلاف بين ثقافتين، وصورة من صور الصراع بين حضارتين: حضارة عربية وحضارة فارسية أنتجت التشيع ليعبِّر عنها في مضامينه، ويحقق أغراضها في أهدافه. فكما استطاع الغرب أن يهضم المسيحية ويتمثلها في شخصيته، لتظهر في صورة الصليب (صليبيةً) تمثل الحضارة الغربية وتعبِّر عنها في كل عناصرها الأساسية في صراعها مع حضارتنا العربية الإسلامية، كذلك تمكَّن الشرق من أن يهضم الإسلام ويتمثله في شخصيته ليظهر في صورة العمامة (تشيعاً فارسياً) يمثل الحضارة الفارسية، ويعبِّر عنها في كل عناصرها الأساسية في صراعها مع ديننا وحضارتنا.
والصراع الحضاري صراع معقَّد وعميق، صراع تحاول فيه كل حضارة أن تجتاح الأخرى أو تزيحها لتحُل محلها في كل عناصرها ومقومَاتها: في دينها وعقيدتها، وقوميتها وأصالتها، ولغتها وآدابها، وثقافتها وتراثها، وقيمها وأخلاقها، وتقاليدها وعاداتها، وتاريخها وأمجادها، وتطلعاتها وأهدافها، وحاضرها ومستقبلها. هذا هو صراعنا مع الشيعة.
وهو صراع قديم، بدأ مع فجر التاريخ قبل أكثر من سبعة آلاف عام، واستمر طيلة هذه الحقب المتطاولة من الزمان، وسيستمر ما دام هناك ثقافتان مختلفتان، وحضارتان متناقضتان متصارعتان.
البيان: في الشأن العراقي يبدو أن المشروع الصفوي يُلقي بظلاله على المشهد السياسي والأمني، ولكن آثاره الاقتصادية والثقافية والتعليمية غير جلية، هل لكم رصد لهذه الجوانب؟
لدينا دراسات في الجانب الثقافي على شكل كتب ومقالات رصدت بعض مظاهر التزوير في التاريخ والفكر والعقيدة. كما أن لنا دراسة علمية ميدانية رصدنا فيها ما استطعنا من التغيير في المناهج التعليمية خصوصاً في مادة الدين عقيدة وفقهاً، وفي مادة التاريخ. أما الجانب الاقتصادي فتقارير الجهات والمنظمات المتخصصة داخل العراق وخارجه كثيرة جداً، أغنتنا عن المتابعة المركزة.
البيان: ما تداعيات تولِّي التشيع السياسي الحكم العراق على مناهج التعليم سواء للمراحل الأولية أو التعليم الجامعي لا سيما في الكليات والجامعات الإسلامية؟ هل قمتم بعملية رصد وتحليل لهذا الأمر؟ وهل يمكن عرض نماذج منه؟
بدأ الشيعة بتغيير المناهج الدراسية منذ وقت مبكر بعد الاحتلال، ودخل التشيع في عقائده وفقهه وتاريخه كل بيت سني عربي تقريباً. وقد رصدنا هذا التغيير منذ سنوات. وإذا كانت الصورة تتضح بالأمثلة فإليكم آخر الأخبـار عـن بعض ما فعله علــي الأديب – وهو الرجل الثاني في حزب الدعوة، إيراني الجنسية – بوزارة التعليم العالي. فبمجرد أن تولى منصبه وزيراً للتعليم باشر بحملة علنية ومباشرة باجتثاث من تبقَّى من السُّنة من مناصبهم ووظائفهم في الوزارة. هذا بعد زجِّه سبعة من موظفي مكتب الوزير السابق (السنِّي) في السجن، ووضعهم جميعاً تحت طائلة القانون المعروف بـ (4 إرهاب) وعقوبتها الإعدام. مصرحاً بأن قانون اجتثاث البعث لم يطبَّق في الوزارة، وعلينا اليوم أن نعمل على تفعيل هذا القانون. علماً بأن عملية التطهير لم تشمل أياً من الشيعة حتى الذين ثابت عليهم انتماؤهم لحزب البعث وآخرها شمول (140) أستاذاً جامعياً في (جامعة تكريت) بالطرد الاجتثاثي، وقبلها تم تنحية نحو 30 كفاءة سُنية من مناصبهم (معاوني رؤساء الجامعات، وعمداء الكليات، ومدراء المراكز) وتم استبدالهم بشيعة.
ثم أصدر الوزير المذكور أوامر رسمية للاعتراف بعدد من الجامعات والكليات الأهلية العائدة لعدد من الأحزاب الشيعية والمراجع الدينية، التي ازدادت بنسبة كبيرة بعد الاحتلال. وفي الوقت نفسه قام بإلغاء أو أصدر قرارات بإلغاء الاعتراف ببعض الجامعات والكليات والمعاهد العربية مثل (معهد البحوث العربي) التابع إلى الجامعة العربية والكائن في منطقة المنصور وسط بغداد ومعهد الدراسات والبحوث، والمعهد العربي العالي للدراسات التربوية والنفسية وغيرها. فضلاً عن فتح الباب واسعاً أمام الطلبة الشيعة للقبول في الجامعة الإسلامية، وهي من الجامعات القليلة السنية في بغداد. كما أصدر قراراً بإغلاق الدراسات العليا (الماجستير والدكتوراه) فيها. ووصل التغيير إلى اسم الجامعة الذي تحول إلى (الجامعة العراقية) بدلاً من (الجامعة الإسلامية).
هذه أمثلة قليلة جداً على حملة تشـييع التعليم الجارية على قدم وساق في العراق، وفي قطاع واحد هو وزارة التعليم العالي! والموضع لا يتسع لأكثر من ذلك.
البيان: تصنفون مشروع التشيع الصفوي على أنه تحدٍّ للأمة وليس لبلد أو طائفة، وما دام الأمر كذلك فإنه يسـتلزم أن يقابله مشروع أمة وليس أفراداً أو مؤسسة أو دولة؟ هل لديكم تصور لمشروع بهذا المستوى؟
نعم، مشروع التشيع الصفوي أو الفارسي هو التحدي الأول للأمة، وهو قضيتها المركزية المعجَّلة الأولى، على الأقل بالنسبة للعراق والخليج والشام(سوى فلسطين فالتحدي الأول فيها يهودي)، وهؤلاء يمثلون – تقريباً – ثلاثة أخماس الأمة إذا أخذنا بنظر الاعتبار مقياس التأثير في الأحداث العالمية. وقارن بين السعودية (22 مليون نسمة) وإندونيسيا (220 مليون نسمة).
والأحداث ستسوق المنطقة إلى هذه النتيجة. وستفصح عن مشروع جماعي للمواجهة عاجلاً أم آجلاً. أما رؤيتنا للمشروع فواضحة ومكتوبة ومعلَنة ومنشورة على موقعنا (القادسية) في محور (منهجنا في التغيير). والمشروع في أساسه وخطوته الأُولَى من مرحلته الأُولَى يقوم على ركنين: (المنهج والبرنامج).
أما المنهج فأساسه (الهوية السُّنية) القائمة على العقيدة بمنهجها القرآني العابر للتسميات، ووسيلتها التجديد والإبداع مستفيدين من علم النفس والاجتماع والتاريخ وغيرها من العلوم الحديثة. وأما البرنامج فأساسه التخطيط طبقاً للعلم الحديث في علمي الإدارة والقيادة.
هذا – باختصار – هو المنهج. الذي يتكامل مع البرنامج لتحويله إلى مفردات عمل في ساحة الواقع. وهذا كله يمثل بداية الطريق لتحقيق المرحلة الأولى وهي مرحلة (التحصين). انتقالاً إلى مرحلة الثانية وهي (التكوين)، وصولاً إلى المرحلة الثالثة وهي (التمكين).
وهو منفتح على كل المشاريع الأخرى (دينية وغير دينية)، يتعامل معها، ويتفاعل ويتعاون مع أصحابها على البر والتقوى؛ ما لم يتعارض ذلك مع منهجيته الإسلامية، أو هويته العروبية، أو خصوصيته العراقية. من هنا ننطلق لتأسيس مشروع عربي جماعي لمواجهة المشروع الشعوبي الإيراني.
البيان: بدأت دعاوى التقريب تظهر من جديد. كيف تقيِّمون مسألة التقريب سابقاً ولاحقاً؟ وهل لكم أن تصوغوا مشروعاً أو أطاراً تنسيقياً لمسألة التقريب؟
كل محاولات التقريب بين السنة والشيعة فشلت بلا استثناء. وهي محكوم عليها بالفشل ابتداءً وانتهاءً؛ لأسباب جوهرية لا يمكن عبورها: فإن كان المقصود بالتقريب صنع دينٍ وسط فهذا غير ممكن؛ لأن الخلاف في أساس الدين وأصوله. وإن كان المقصود به التقريب السياسي فهذا غير ممكن لعدم وجود نية صادقة لدى الشيعة لهذا التقريب. كما أنه ليس في مقدورهم امتلاك هذه النية؛ إذ دينهم يفرض عليهم – بعد تكفير السنة – وجوب قتلهم وسلب أموالهم، وعقدهم النفسية تدفعهم لخدمة أغراض دينهم دفعاً ليس بمَلْكهم مقاومته. الشيعي لا يؤمن بحق السُّني في الحياة ولا في التملُّك، وهذان هما أساس السلم الاجتماعي الذي نحتاجه للبدء بأي مشروع. حالة واحدة يمكن أن تلتقي فيها مع الشيعة سياسياً فقط وليس دينياً قط، هي أن تكون قوياً لتفرض عليهم الوفاء بالعهد والالتزام بتنفيذ بنود العقد، كما فعل ربنا مع بني إسرائيل، وهو ما أخبر عنه بقوله: {وَإذْ أَخَذْنَا مِيثَاقَكُمْ وَرَفَعْنَا فَوْقَكُمُ الطُّورَ خُذُوا مَا آتَيْنَاكُم بِقُوَّةٍ وَاذْكُرُوا مَا فِيهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ 63 ثُمَّ تَوَلَّيْتُم مِّنْ بَعْدِ ذَلِكَ فَلَوْلا فَضْلُ اللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَتُهُ لَكُنتُم مِّنَ الْـخَاسِرِينَ} [البقرة: 63 - 64]. امتلاك القوة هي المنطلَق لبناء مشروع تقريب سياسي (لا ديني) مع الشيعة، ومن دون ذلك فالمشروع فاقد لأساسه.
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This is US English site you nitwit. Go post this CRAP where they can read it! Sheesh!!
Buy a brain.
Dump the picture ,it was proven to be a fake today
This is not so much an issue of "saving face" as "having face".
Iran is a religious state with an independent judiciary founded on sharia. As a religious state, the members of government and the judiciary do what most radically religious people do – preach. For the radically religious, the U.S. is the Great Satan and Israel, a thorn in the side of a Muslim world. You cannot firmly believe something without it having consequences – particularly in what you say.
In our media, everything is interpreted as secular while in sharia, everything is religious. The concern is not whether it is the will of the people but rather if it's the will of god. So everything that government does (or their spokesmen say), is measured, not against good sense, but against what makes religious sense.
Making threatening gestures against "the Great Satan" makes religious sense. It is not the issue then, of saving face, but rather not being a faceless representative.
there is no need of this war it dosent have to happen if we all learn to trade with each other it will work out .the last 10 years have proven that the us is weak and will not gain anything from this conflict to many us soldiors have died
can someone please tell me how we are the better nation here
please tell me why so maney have died becuase of saposable cave men with box cutters high jacked some planes its time to ask questions and learn to make peace
if we gave iran a neclear reactor would ge get the contract i dought it
Israeli police have issued restraining orders to a dozen settlers barring them from entering the occupied West Bank.
The Israeli military described the group as "extremists" suspected of involvement in violence targeting Palestinians and Israeli forces.
The bans run for up to nine months.
Israeli authorities have announced plans to stop so-called "price tag" attacks carried out by Jewish extremists in response for any action taken against settlement expansion.
There has recently been a series in arson attacks on mosques and a reported rise in vandalism against private Palestinian property.
Israeli military bases in the West Bank have also been targeted. Israeli soldiers are based in the territory to protect Jewish settlers but are also responsible for carrying out demolition orders of illegal outposts.
According to Israeli public radio restraining orders were handed out in two right-wing settlements close to Nablus, Yizhar and Elon More, and three outposts.
The IDF statement said they were the result of "a specific security necessity", issued "after exhausting all other alternatives."
It said the Shin Bet internal security service had gathered information that "the group of extremists has been involved in leading, directing and executing violent and clandestine activity targeting Palestinian residents of Judea and Samaria [the West Bank] and security forces operating in the area, therefore endangering lives and disrupting public order".
"New steps"
Last month, after an incident at an Israeli army base, the Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, said a list of administrative measures was being taken.
Israeli soldiers are brought in to stop clashes between settlers and Palestinians Under the new regulations, the army will now have the authority to detain offenders, as well as the police, and they will be tried in military courts rather than in civilian courts.
In the past, Israeli police have made arrests of individuals suspected of being behind "price tag" violence but none has been charged.
The Palestinians have criticised what they see as a lack of serious action by Israel to stop the attacks on their communities.
There are more than a hundred Jewish settlements in the West Bank, territory that Israel captured in the 1967 war. They are considered illegal under international law, although Israel disputes this.
There are also dozens of outposts which were never authorised by the Israeli government.
Palestinian officials demand a halt to settlement construction in occupied territory which they describe as "an obstacle to peace".
Lets see...............
6 arab nations attack Israel to push jews into the sea.
They lose the war, and now they want the land back that they lost in the war ?
Its not your land, get over it.
The UN offered you a country back in 1947 and you said no.
TUFF.
Going In Circles, The arabs NEVER attacked Israel, Israel "preemptively" took out their air assets before they were able to take off. So WHO started the war again??? GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT! It was Israel that fired the first shot. BUT nice try! NOW will you go back to Tel Aviv??? LOL!
when was the last time that the Palestinian authorities acted to curb their citizens from launching rockets against Israel? when was the last time they even criticized attacks against israeli civilians? the reader says why "unjustice" when in fact, the exact opposite is true. The "palestinians" are being protected by Israel from harm by admittedly a small number of . How about some reciprocation?
Is that an old surplus V2 from Germany? Hahahahahahahaahahaha
Excellnt analysis! The key is for the US to continue to engage with the people of Iran and also continue to strive for Iran to be part of a larger gameplan for south Asia. With problems in Pakistan, US efforts in Afghanistan will only succeed with Iran's support. The strategic play in Central Asia too will require Iran's support. It may be the best opportunity for the West to stop efforts towards a regime change but rather push for a policy shift in Iran.
Well said.
Hello... that may be your interest, not Iran's leaders. They and other Muslim nations want Israel destroyed. Please listen to their own words. When someone publicly states they want to destroy your nation, what part of that statement don't you understand? They are not joking. No one is laughing! Often, in the news media you aren't hearing the Arab Muslim mind, but the mind of good intentioned Western thinkers... dreamers, who aren't always too bright. The average male, Muslim, Arab has a deep resentment... "hatred" toward Israel. Go talk the the Arab cab drivers at 231st and Broadway in the Bronx. Truth "nice guys", they like being here, but many are angry and will praise Allah when and if Israel is destroyed. Organize that mindset through government and hand them a bomb, and there is going to be an explosion.
Why do they hate Israel so much?
THE RECENT ATTACK IN IRAQ CAME AFTER MOQTADA AL QATHER AND HIS MAHDI MILITIA THUGS WORN ANOTHER SHIIA THUGS CALLED ASYEB AHEL AL HAQ , THOSE ASYEB ARE GROUP OF THUGS BACKED BY IRAN SEPERATED FROM MOQTADA AL QATHER, NOW THE 2 FRACTION ARE SCORING AND KILLING EACH OTHER AND ATTACKING CIVILIANS AND BLAMING THE SUNNIS , IT WILL KNOWN IN IRAQ THAT THOSE 2 GROUPS KILLED MANY CIVILIANS THAN USA DID.....THEY ARE EVIL SHIIA THUGS TRYING TO CONTROL IRAQ, AL SADDER GROUP ARE IN SADDER CITY AND NASREYA WHERE THE ATTACK TOOK PLACE FEW DAYS AFTER SADDER WORN AL KHAZALY AND ASYEB AL HAQ SO THEY DID THIS TO SHOW HM THEY MEAN WAR. USA MUST STOP IRAN , MUST GET RED OF NORI AL MALEKI IF THEY WANT TO SEE PEACE IN IRAQ.
If the iranians want peace these military exercises are a funny way of going about it You ve just raised the stakes ten fold when you ve told the Americans not to sail into this water way You ve painted yourselve into a corner either you back down or you start a fight that you know you cant win
Not sure what that Iranian General was thinking threatening the US in International waters. They NEED to back down.
If this is the case then Iran should be giving up their nuclear ambition which we all no is not peacful. More stalling by Iran. Lets get this over with and then we won't have to deal with any middle east threats for awhile since they are all in termoil.
Zionists are trying to build another war, it's pointless and stupid. Let Israel fight their own battles.
I agree.
amazing how Iran threatens israel and the US and he palestinian apologists only response is to blame the "zionists" which of course is their euphemism for Jews. they have no shame in their continuing crying and whining and singing their mantra: "woe is me, woe is me, everyone but us has caused our misery" so long as they continue to blame others and teach hatred to their children and call killers "martyrs" instead of murderers we, the rest of the wold, will be inundated with reports of syrians killing syrians, libyans killing libyans, egyptians killing egyptians and so on and so on. None of these muslim on muslim murders including the way the Iranians treated their own protestors this past year has anything to do with Israel, the US, the West, Zionists, the UK etc. the mantra "woe is me, we are the victims" is getting very old and very tired. Palestinians want peace? start talking and stop rocketing. dont wan a bulldozer in your front yard, don use your house as base for rocket or suicide bomb attacks.
It is an election year in Iran. They do something like this every time. Why are some people still fooled? They have 5,000 people applying to run in parliament elections. 1000-2000 reformers will have to be disqualified before February. That is election rigging by controlling the ballots. Iran does it every election year. They also create a big confrontation with USA and distract all the people with war scare while they do it.
same old same old. Has nothing to do with anything mentioned in this article.
Wouldn't it be in Iran's best interest to learn to save face in a civilized and diplomatically acceptable manner? However, I find that the idea that Iran is merely saving face, though perhaps partially true, obviates the fact that Iranian rhetoric toward the West is bombastic and has to be taken seriously. In 1979 they took over the U.S. Embassy complex and in 2011 the British. Within the last few years they have crossed the Iraqi border, arrested American citizens under trumped up charges, seized U.S. military vessels and personnel in the Strait, and threatened the destruction of Israel. In addition, they have supported and currently support terrorist cells, training and activities. I suspect that their actions speak lounder than their words. Their religious intolerance is only a cover for ignorance, stupidity and buffunery. Islam is not violent, intolerant, and narrow minded. It is the people in power that endanger millions of others with their self-destructive antics. Unfortunately, there is only a majority of one in Iran. As we saw recently, the people living in Iran are as much the recipients of abuse as we in the West could be with an unrestrained and incompetent bully causing chaos with impunity. When Iran is in possession of a nuclear device, an inevitable eventuality if Zechariah 5:5-11 is any indication, the probability is that it will deploy it. That same religious zeal that compells them to mistreat other Muslims will also justify their madness. In my estimate, the Iranian leadership is not concerned with saving face. They are, instead, intent on establishing their dominion. But the Lord God is one and His purpose will be accomplished. And what is that purpose? It is the eradication of evil from all of His creation for all eternity through His sustaining Grace and Power in Christ Jesus the eternal Lord. Believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved. But should we attack Iran to prevent them from possessing nuclear weapons? No.
The best way to fight Iran is with the Arab Spring. The revolution in Syria is redefining how to overthrow an oppressive tyrant. From the inside out you keep eroding confidence in the economy, the government's morality, and the government's ability to provide security. Eventually these three pillars fall and the common soldier refuses to fire upon his brother. The only thing left is bank accounts and mercenaries. If the people of Syria succeed then it provides a blueprint for the people of Iran. This is an election year in Iran. The people are still unhappy about the last election. Mousavi's wife won the female vote and the election was heavily rigged. There is about to be another election and it is going to have to be heavily rigged as well. The economy is bad and the promises of the original revolution are unfulfilled. Life would have been better with the shah and a lot of Iranians realize this. Iran is ready to collapse if the unarmed people only knew how.
Iran would be extremely foolish to fire even one bullet towards military ships & bases of the USA and other nations in the middle east. They must know that they will get their butts kicked severely. Believe me, the USA & Israel are begging for this to happen.
Nonsense. It's all posturing. Iran is not going to be attacked for the following reasons:
1. They have the backing of Russia and China.
2. They have Russian-made Sunburn/Moskit surface-to-surface missiles capable of wiping out the US fleet there as well as closing the straight.
3. They already have nuclear weapons, as disclosed by Russian General Baluyevsky at the Bush-Putin Summit of 2002 (source:Stratfor, June 4 2002).
4. TPTB don't want to collapse the economy (yet) by sending crude over $200.
you people are forgetting one thing no matter how bad war gets bombs droped people die we as humans will survive no matter how evil something is good will always win in the end until the world it as a whole is totaly blown up we are heading in a new era in space we can build citys in space space stations and who ever gets there first can take everyone out on the face of this earth and live up in space for years come down when the dust settles and start a new world which will have peace and happnesss on earth for ever and doo the world right this time no wars no hate no religons no nothing just peace theres things out there that humans would never believe we are not alone trust me on that the time is near for
they drop a bomb we drop a bomb everyone drops a bomb the amercians wantt a war cuz they have spent soomuch money on there little toys as well this earth is over poplulated we need too get rid of people so we have too have war then they can start all over but this war looks scary cuz tecnology issoo advanced iam hoping i can get the powers of the god s from the 83 rd world too stop it all why cant the whole world just be called canada and live with other cultures in peace we have proofed we can all live together in peace i love all cultures and all people pass that on too anyone you speak too i love you you love me we are one big family and put are heads together too figure out what is out in space cuz theres things out there we all can have are own worlds
The author never was a boy. Boys usually ignore force and pecking order. However, as all males know, the very moment forces are being actually tested and threats are being expressed, there is a 99% chance of escalation in the next few days. The only difference with countries: the time scale is longer.
It's must be an ass face, Abdo
Too many of Iran's leaders are religious "nuts". The problem... they are convinced that Israel dwells upon Islamic land, and must go. It is that simple. Forget that the Old Testament repeatedly states God gave the land to Abraham and the Jews, not the Arabs. They are a very proud people... grace, forgiveness is not their cup of tea. Israel has exposed the Arab Islamic governments as weak, especially in war. This is very humiliating, and Arab Muslims are embarrassed, and frustrated by Israel's ability to defeat them. It is a reflection of how weak Allah has become in the face of the God of Israel. Allah is God?... who buys that after witnessing all the nonsense being seen coming out of the Muslim religion?! Only an uneducated, bias, brainwashed group who love to raise their voices and shout at one another. The idea is the one who shouts the longest and loudest wins the argument. Why don't they just build their nation instead of trying to destroy other nations?
LIKE I SAID BEFORE NEVER PUT THINKS OF TILL TOMORROW WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TODAY ?? THEY ARE ALL SNAKES AND WE BELIEVE THEM WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!