Editor’s Note: Geneive Abdo is the director of the Iran program at The Century Foundation. Reza H. Akbari is a research associate for the program.
By Geneive Abdo and Reza H. Akbari – Special to CNN
Will Iran retaliate if attacked? Israeli intelligence officials and neo-conservative pundits in the United States argue that Iran is bluffing – that it wouldn’t dare.
But on Tuesday, U.S. Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. powerfully rebutted this view. Clapper argued not only that Iran would retaliate, but that some Iranian officials are now even willing to carry out attacks on U.S. soil.
In his unclassified statement submitted to the U.S. Senate’s Select Committee on Intelligence, Clapper said: “Iran’s willingness to sponsor future attacks in the United States or against our interests abroad probably will be shaped by Tehran’s evaluation of the costs it bears for the plot…as well as Iranian leader’s perception of U.S. threats against the regime.”
The issue of survival is not taken lightly by the Iranian military and political establishments. According to an article published by the Guardian, an Iranian idiom is quite popular among military officials, “If we drown, we'll drown everyone with us.” The Iranian regime is prepared to fight until the end.
Many foreign leaders, such as France’s Nicholas Sarkozy are also very worried about the implications of a potential military conflict with Iran. As reported by the German publication Spiegel, during his New Year’s address to diplomats in Paris, Sarkozy stated, “A military intervention [in Iran] would not solve the problem [of Iran's nuclear program], but would trigger war and chaos in the Middle East and maybe the world.
Such conclusions are far more realistic than that of a retired Israeli official who told the New York Times: “I am not saying Iran will not react. But it will be nothing like London during World War II.”
In the eyes of the Iranian regime, this is a fight for survival far more threatening than the domestic challenge presented by the protest movement of millions of Iranian demonstrators in 2009.
The recent pronouncements from Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and other Iranian officials should be taken seriously. In November, Khamenei said: "Iran is not a nation to sit still and just observe threats from fragile materialist powers which are being eaten by worms from inside.
“Anyone who harbors any thought of invading the Islamic Republic of Iran - or even if the thought crosses their mind - should be prepared to receive strong blows and the steel fists of the military, the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps, and the Basij, backed by the entire Iranian nation," he said.
Is he bluffing? There is no way to know for sure, but are Israel and the United States willing to accept the potential risks?
There are a number of political, economic, and military retaliatory moves Iran is perfectly capable of and willing to carry out in the short and long-term.
- According to Clapper’s Worldwide Threat Assessment, “Iran already has the largest inventory of ballistic missiles in the Middle East, and it is expanding the scale, reach, and sophistication of its ballistic missile forces.” Iran can use its missile abilities to strike Israel.
- Some might make the argument that Iran’s military capabilities are not on par with Israel or the United States. It does not matter. Even if Israel succeeds in short-term air strikes, Iran is willing and able to cause and promote instability in the region. This is in direct contradiction with the United States’ broad interest in the Middle East, which is stability.
- Iran may not be able to keep the Strait of Hormuz closed indefinitely, but even threats and potential attempts will cause volatility in the Persian Gulf.
Some point to recent history and argue that Iran has never launched a large-scale retaliatory attack. But times have changed, and Iran’s position has shifted. Iran is now preparing for an attack on its soil, and part of this strategy includes an effective second strike.
The views expressed in this article are solely those of Geneive Abdo and Reza H. Akbari.
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“If we drown, we'll drown everyone with us.”–Iranian idiom
"We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."–Israeli military historian
It looks like the coming war will do in everyone.
Yes, Iran would strike back and a full-blown war might break out, if the belligerence on both sides increased. Is it really what we and the Iranians want? Iran would have more to lose than just its face and we have more to worry than nuclear arms.
It would also significantly undermine the Arab Spring, which is bad bad bad.
No, of course we don't want that. But we don't want a radical Islamist regime to possess the capability to harm us or Israel, either. So what is your solution then?
Sounds like both Israel and Iran are at fault as well as justified to take the stances they take. It's just Iran happens to hate Israel with passion and wish to "wipe them from pages of history." Israel still has done some cruel things in the past, and are no better than Iran. Just because someone talks about killing someone or even an entire race doesn't mean they accomplish it. Whether it's out of a crude joke or in all seriousness, it's extremely difficult to carry out such plans nowadays.
I say let Israel and Iran duke it out with each other. Let them fight it all out. Maybe US and Russia can support their preferred side by supplying them with weapons and munition. It'll be another Cold War battleground like Vietnam and Korea was. Whoever wins gets to clean up the mess afterwards and pay massive aid money for the next few decades to "stabilize" the region.
Because the United States to become a major power, or want to earn extra benefits so disturbs the world.
it does"nt matter... as long as we all drown together
@ xande! How fatalistically funny!
this war on iran will be the end of the middle east...why??? i hope its simple ...its time for china and russia to back iran and say the time has come to end the israeli aparteid in gaza and the west bank....israel is the 100% problem over there...israelis "never" compromise in anything...well hopefully this war on iran will convince the world once and for all to stop the israelis for good...they will be the first to use a nuclear weapon to end irans hope for one itself...mark my words....china can bomb taiwan and russia can bomb whoever, once israelis bomb iran....the u.s. will back the zionists and all hel;l will break loose....good job israel... hopefully they will be gone too......
you are an idiot! anybody that would say crap like that is uneducated and really hope that you DONT live here in the united states because if you do then go live in china , russia or iran.
You certainly play into the media and anti-Israeli prejudice. My friend, the Jewish people go back to this land since the beginning of time. They were the people exiled from their own land. Now they own their own land and are called occupiers? No, I am not Jewish nor do I have any relationship or bias towards Israel. I simply understand the history of this land and the false claims the Palestinians are making of land that is not theirs. Israel has nuclear weapons and a very strong military. Why? They have been attacked since their status as the state of Israel. You really need to read unbiased history, learn it and then decide who is in the right. Now Iran? A state sponsor of terrorism since the Khomeini came back from exile and started the Islamic state. Iran is producing nuclear energy when it is a net exporter of energy. Iran has deceived the IAEA in the past and has no foundation in which the international community can truest them. Irans leaders call for the destruction of a sovereign state. You have the nerve to criticize Israel over this conflict. You are woefully misguided and falling smack into the propaganda war. Amazing....
buddy, the native americans are from this land, and how abut before the religion of Judaism started, should the people that were there at that time be given the land back
*** mark my words.........
Consider your words "Marked".....Moron.
In reply to Sandman.
No, they shouldn't. But it is what it is. If the Palestinian want the land back, then become strong enough to take it back.
And not through shooting rockets at school buses, it just shows the weakness of the Palestinian struggle.
Do you walk around with your head stuck in your butt all of the time or just when your posting on CNN ?
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China and Russia aren't going to war with anyone over Iran. Russiaa's military isn't crap anymore and China isn't going to F**ck with its biggest coustomer. Moron.
iran would never have Air Superiority ...
end of story
Look at my nick name. Enough Said
It's so funny! You will start something that will last for a long time! Iran has always been understimated! To start such a war means to start the real wipe out of Israel. I'm Persian. We saved those people from Babylon. We can send them all to hell. The war you are all talking about will not happen by means of GUN, it's the start of the expansion of an Islamic Iranian Ideology. What no one will be able to stop until a new system will rule this world. Don't start this. I don't like my government, actually I hate Islamic Republic. But we, all Iranian people, love our Iran. We will fight all of you back till the last drop of our blood. It means don't think of military force, think of what someone who believes in something can do. Plus, we have the means to punish you in your own countries. And we already have the nuclear warheads. You don't know how much we are capable of if we are threatened.
to warmonger israel STOP IT>
micheal angel
to warmonger Iran STOP IT>
It comes down to if you want them to have a nuclear weapon or not. Any country that calls for the destruction of another country and calls for them to be wiped off the map should not have one. They are a supporter of global terrorism. And what type of people chant "death to America, death to Israel" before every political meeting? What will happen once they have the bomb?
Some countries ware wiped off he map, where is palestine on ya map???
Will someone please update me? Lets say by August these horrible folk in Iran anounce they have 15 nukes. Does this then mean Iran will immediately bomb the USA, Europe and Israel? i mean Pakistan have nukes. Does Pakistan bomb Afghanistan? Or does Israel with it Bombs bomb Gaza? or France Germany? Or does China bomb Taiwan? Dont forget Russia and them nukiing the Ukraine? How do I know that these mad Iranians will use these devices to blow themselves away at the same time? Does Mrs. Clinton know and maybe does not tell us? Or are the Iranian maybe looking merely for an insurance policy. Help wanted. BS
The whole purpose of the Iranian regime is the destruction of Israel. These guys are zealots – they have no sense of self-preservation. They're happy to die as martyrs, provided they take Israel with them.
They cannot have the bomb.
well if I get drafted, im killing as many of those crazy hyper religious sobs as i can
By bye Aj, by bye IRAN. Who cares about you
Why would Iran fool with the straights of Hormuz and the US navy when all of Saudi Arabia is full of targets that are not moving? 100 miles from Iran is one of the biggest oil refining systems in the world. It would be possible to stop processing and shipping for months (years?). How about oil at $300.00 a barrel just for starters. Our world wide neighbors would just love us!
Why would Iran fool with the straights of Hormuz and the US navy when all of Saudi Arabia is full of targets that are not moving? 100 miles from Iran is one of the biggest oil refining systems in the world. It would be possible to stop processing and shipping for months (years?). How about oil at $300.00 a barrel just for starters. Our world wide neighbors would just love us! Why are you censoring my post?
only idiots will argue that its ok to attack iran as they will not retaliate. Iranians have been building weapons for the last 20 years just for this situation and they will use them to hurt their enemies and the russians and the chinese are helping them in hope of teaching the americans a lession. russians and chinese officails have been talking about WW3 if iran is attacked.
I hope the USA government has enough rational people to realise that the known risks are to great for this adventure.
I hope they also think about the "unknown unknowns" like they didnt about iraq war. But anyone familiar with US recent history will in Middle East will be dreading another blunder of giagantic propotions.
Our government is in control of the military, otherwise known as the Blundermatic.
Would you rather the military in control of the government? That didn't work out so well for Egypt.
I can't speak for all Americans but as far as Im concerned if ppl in the ME want to continue fighting let them. They've been at it for thousands of years. We need to take care of our own interests. Im all for bringing our soldiers home to make sure none of the terrorists get a chance to attack us on our soil ever again. Iraq was a mess and as soon as we left they picked up where they left off...fighting each other. What's the point? If we're attacked again though....it's on and i can't blame any other country for feeling the same.
WOULD"NT IT BE WONDERFUL IF ALL THE POLITICIANS WHO ARE WAGING WAR ARE THE ONE"S ACTUALLY GOING TO WAR INSTEAD OF OUR YOUNG SOLDIERS? WORLD PEACE SOLVE :>
ms: yes, but Israel is the one that wants to drag our troops to another country. All these barks just to defend ISrael interest at the cost of our man and woman in uniform. Let Israelis fight alone.
"they picked up where they left off" ...no exactly, before we attacked & occupied Iraq, they were actually doing better than today. yes, they were under the rule of a dictator, but so are the other 10 arab countries in the middle east....since the other dics are friendly to U.S., they get go on ruling. If they get out of line (Mubarak, Gadafi, & Asaad) we make life hell for them ... this is just one big game for the U.S., but there are few other players now who want a piece of the pie. gl,
ms – "Im all for bringing our soldiers home to make sure none of the terrorists get a chance to attack us on our soil ever again"
Here's the problem with that plan: We have interests all over the world. These interests include business, people, property, etc. Pulling absolutely EVERY soldier home leaves all of them unprotected. Bring all those "interests" home you say? Bad idea. What will we do with these now bankrupt businesses and unemployed workers and now valueless assets once they get here? Just add all of them to the pile of useless, unproductive detritus we have laying around now? Doesn't sound good to me.
I'm not interested in taking over the world and I'm not a real big fan of war but I don't believe the other extreme is a wise choice either.
My 2 cents...
America is the worst nation on earth .
Where ever they go watch they spead evil, death directly or indirectly
The most high GOD with destroy that evil nation like sodom ,Gomora, Babylon.
But he will surely deliver the good ones in that evil land.
Due to the true Axis of Evil(the United States, Great Britain and France) in the world today, Iran needs to have the ability to retaliate. This Axis needs to be stopped in one way or another. It shows just how far these three countries can be driven by sheer greed!!!
you are a communist. one day you will be crushed by a band of high-schoolers in the midwest. and to hell with Iran. we're ready to wreck em
11banger, This is not your video game, Call of Duty. Idiot! are you that sick?
..if you think about it .its no longer a war between muslim and christian but a war between usa and oil pruducing country.for the last decade usa is actively waging war against muslim countries (for oil. ) though most of the time the"re just behind of every war. supporting a small rebel group to cause a uprising .so that they could come to finish the job.capitalizing on weak minds( LIKE YOU) and patriotic heart of a soldier.at the end of the day .its just $ for usa
Lol Red Dawn reference.
US_____Israel_____UK
Axis of dEvil
Well put.
we're surrounded by idiots ^
None of the countries you listed are shooting their own people. Syria is. You suck at trolling. "Wait!" She says! "It's Mossad & CIA shooting the Syrians to cause chaos!" Pfffffftttttttt. Iran's Al Quds special operations leader is over in Syria now, pointing out more efficient ways to kill civilians and opposition militia. Try again hippy.
I don't like the greed of the Western world any more than anybody else. But, I would take it over some of the crazed ideologies of the anti-USA/UK/France mob any day of the week. If you live in the safety and security of the free World, bought and paid for with the blood of our forefathers, and cannot respect our way of life and customs here, take a one-way ticket to Iran, Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan, or any number of other dictator led countries, and have a nice day.
You are a disillusioned idiot (period)
Pakistan and India both have the bomb and are afraid to start another war! The thought of total destruction clears the head. Leave Iran alone they are not suicidal.
that is where you are wrong. they are suicidal. suicide to become a martyr has become a cultural norm for these people. the idea of taking it to the nation state and global level is a small leap in concept.
So mr. happy how are u so sure they are that suicidal. Pakistan is the epicenter of fundamental islam yet they havnt let one go. Based on your ridiculous theory pakistan would have nuked india a long time ago since then they would all be martyred. Wake up attacking Iran is far more dangerous then a nuclear armed Iran
WWIII will be started by Iran.
YOU MEAN AT IRAN BY THE USA OF COURSE
No it looks right, WW3 by Iran. While the rest of the world is dismantling nuclear weapons or nuclear energy for that matter, you have countries like North Korea and Iran wanting to have them, whether its for energy (yeah right) or weapons. Nuclear weapons are more beneficial than energy to a regime that wants political power. If Iran REALLY wants just an energy source why is it so secretive and underground. Other countries have them above ground since there is nothing to hide since its for energy production. By the looks of it looks like your prolly Iranian or just plain anti-american for whatever reason that has nothing to do with this article.
i wish there could be some kind of agreement between us and Iran on thier program, i worry that everything that we worked hard for peace in the would come to an end... This is a scary time, and we need to keep our kool,and not keep pushing the issue on Iran's program,because it might start a war that would blow up in our faces,and spead fear in the world...a war that would be the end of us all !.........God help us all !.....prey for peace !......
World War 3 will be the US or Israel attacking Iran first. We are currently developing bunker busters capable of reaching to the depths of their current facility underground. Iran does have a real military, and 3-4 million members. They also have some of the most high-tec submarines in the world. If we engage in war with Iran we WILL lose at LEAST 1 naval ship of substantial value from a sub attack. They are invisible to our radar if they are sitting on the sea floor just sitting there (Which Iran has said they are.) They also told us within the past 3 days that they will launch missiles at the US and allies which support any operation that involves attacking Iran. And they do have capable missiles. Would they win? HELL no. They would be obliterated. But it would be at a huge cost of US and allied lives, and Iranian civilian lives. It would be the bloodiest war in decades if we engage in one.
Nonsense!
Episode V : The Iran strikes back.
Episode VI : The return of the G.I
Based on this statement alone "According to an article published by the Guardian, an Iranian idiom is quite popular among military officials, “If we drown, we'll drown everyone with us.” The Iranian regime is prepared to fight until the end". This should be the main reason Iran should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Like any other Muslim country, they're all suicidal maniacs for a foolish religious cause!
Just because it's Iran who says we'll fight to the end you have to make it about muslims, but If it were the US who said this you'd be praising them and calling them brave for using such powerful rethoric!!!
Like : "give me liberty or give me death"
"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender..."–Churchill
but pakistan, a muslim country already has nuclear weapons... so does crazier north korea.
The Iranian leadership, which so disgraces the people of that ancient and cultured land, is insane and stupid (I watched A-jad’s speech at Columbia University), but whether it is so to the degree of attacking the United States is questionable. It is hard to imagine that ANYONE is that insane and stupid. If the Iranian leadership attacks the U. S., it is finished . . . game, set, match. Perhaps we will see the young, democratic Iranian protesters finally have the opportunity to create a civilized and respected government.
You have a pretty short memory, my friend... Osama bin Laden was "insane and stupid" enough to attack the United States. Can you imagine THAT?
ever look into why he did it? or "wanted to do it"?
It didn't work out too well for Osama...
It's not comparable anyway. These guys don't have the option of hiding indefinitely while brainwashing and sending others to their early deaths... It's not about being Muslim or whatever. The other countries in that region who already have nukes, have already proven over time that they do want to continue to exist at least. Iran has proven over time that this current regeim it seems has a death wish for itself and the whoile country as long as they can take out as many of their enemy as they can...
THAT is why is it mroe disturbing for Iran to have nukes compared to more responsible nations like Pakistan, India, etc.
Yhinker23 – First, bin Laden was an individual, his group, numerically, was pretty small, and well spread out throughout the world. Iran is a country, it has land, buildings, bases, facilities. They can't just go hide somewhere. Second, al Queada grossly underestimated the United States, they never thought we would invade Afghanistan, and were surprised when we did. They also never thought we would spend over a decade pursuing them with the army, with drones, and with special ops teams.
I don't think Iran would ever attack the US. But, if there is a war already on, they will probably feel they have nothing to lose, and the gloves will come off. And if just Israel attacks them, they may decide it's the same thing. Or, they may decide not to draw us in. There's no way to predict what passes for strategic thinking in that government.
When will we listen and work for ourselves and stop kissing Israel's a$$ ? We are tired of supporting Israel and its war mongering.
After Iran, Israel will blame Turkey, then Egypt. Guaranteed! If Iran gets nukes so be it. Israel has 300+.
Iran is not that stupid to dare attack US. They know it will be their end. For sure!
If Iran gets nukes so be it. Israel has 300+.
300 nukes? show me ,please , what types ? how many launchers ?have a source or web site ?
Do you have a proof that Iran is building nukes? any pictures of ahmedi nijad with a nuke remote control in his hand?
Without the essences or fundamentals of human right within the culture, Arab Spring = Arab Chaos.
give it time. let them get "democracy" than US and Israel will see their wrath. peoples' wrath. Arabs are sick of Isreali and US's hegemony.
Are you trying to say that "they" (the Iranians, the Arabs and Muslims in general) are violent murderous beast incapable of living in peace with others and that allowing them to go free is a mortally dangerous? If so WHY would anyone be willing to let these monsters go free?
most muslims come to the usa because they are fleeing fellow muslims .
You better not be calling Iranians arabs my friend.
all the same lah..............................
Iranians and arabs are not the same, educate yourself.
@shahin
Please enlight me the essences or fundamentals of human right within the Iranian culture.
arabs speak arabic. iranians speak farsi, they are persians, like turks speak turkish.
oh the failure of public education...
They all come from the same litter! " Rag Head"
Mexican, American....same thing....
not...educate yourself you moron
Here we go again. Another fearmongering issue by Israel and its Jewish counteparts to lure US into war with Iran.
Just last year these people were making fun of Iran's decrepit aviononics technology and now suddenly Iranian missiles will "attack US" ? Enough with your lies, Jews
It does seem that Israel wants it both ways. They would have us believe that Iran is always a few months from having a bomb, but never gets there. Because if Israel admitted the truth, that Iran has had nukes for twenty years, it would ruin the argument that these crazy Iranians would use it at soon as they got it.
Arabs have more than 12 Countries, they must respect Israel. Which ended up a very tiny land, after the 4 A.D. Before the 4 A.D., the current all Middle-East Countries belongs to Israel. Back then, there weren't the Country called, Iran,Iraq, Arab-soud (Dark Arab)/Saudi-Arabia(current), etc.
The Six-Days War was tougher than this...
American Idiom, ' Few must die, to save More '.
Whether when it comes to war or creativity, no one ever been and will never be equal to the British People.
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When will True will become True??
1) Why did Noses and Hitter murdered the Jewish? Prior to the attack, Jewish were the best and lovely friends for Germany
and for the rest of the World. Ref; Abraham, Jacob and Issak are Jewish; and the people on Planet Earth are their Childr
en. Hitler himself was also in Jail for 13 Months. For his trouble of being Anti-semitism.(According to some writers).
What is the secret we and the survival do not know?? Remember, Mein Kempf was re-written many times, some times
with different meanings. The German Law also prohibited, to reveal the Authors full details, unless 70 Years passed
after his/her death.
2) Why did Taliban and Al-qoaeda attacked America in 9/11?? Prior to the attack, they were the best friends of America.
They both proofed their TRUST by sacrificing their lives during the Soviet Union invasion of Afghanistan. I bet, they
both share some secrets that you and me don't know.
What is the secret we and the survivals do not know??
Iran's defensive strategy is very simple. It was stated in one sentence to me:
"Iran wants everyone in the world to have security, but security is a mutual undertaking. If our security is endangered then we will see to it that nobody will have any security"
Somehow I doubt it. No one (and I repeat, NO ONE) is willing to attack PEACEFUL Iran. If Iranian leaders were peaceful no one would attack their country. Unfortunately, Iranian leaders are doing everything they can to convince the world that they're busy developing nuclear weapons and that they will use these weapons to destroy Israel and, possibly, other countries. Iranian strategy is a sure way to a large scale war with unpredictable consequences.
@thinker: you are not thinking at all. who is it that keeps talking about war? which countries constantly make threats of military strikes? which countries have committed terrorist attacks inside Iran? it is our governments that have committed these acts and speak of striking another country. and did we not hear these same arguments from our governments of Saddam's WMDs? did we not hear of Saddam's mushroom clouds? did we find any WMDs in Iraq? here it is again the same rhetoric is being used to dupe people into anther war with another country. But this will not be so easy as Iraq. God has given you a mind to think, use your intellect, and reason but unfortunately most people do not and too foolish to realize they are being duped again. those who do not learn from their past are doomed to repeat it.
Well said Patriot! well said!
Of course they will! The question is: are they going to be allowed to have a nuclear bomb without a fight just because they threaten to hit back?
IRAN, HIZBOALLAH AND BASHAR OF SYRIA ARE PAPER TIGERS.....TRUST ME HIT THEM HARD NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE THOSE EVIL MUST GO, THATS WHY RUSSIA HELPING THEM TO SUCK MORE FREE OIL FROM IRAN AND MORE CASH FROM NORI AL MALEKI OF IRAQ WHO SEND HIS CASH TO SYRIA AS SHIIA HELPING SHIIA THUGS, THOSE ALWYAT THUGS ARE CULT AN EVIL CULT. ATTACK IRAN THE ONLY WAY TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE , SANCTION WANT WORK AS IRAN SEND 25% OF THE OIL TO CHINA AND 155 TO RUSSIA BY SYRIA....
USA MUST GET RED OF THE DECTATORE NORI AL MALEKI AS HE IS HELPING IRAN WITH CASH AND CAN SALE OIL FOR THEM SANCTION WANT WORK.
you are ignorant as an arab dates.
Reblogged this on A DM Opinion.
Why does iran want to destroy israel?
one reason summed up in one word. Jerusalem.
no body wants to destroy Israel, only the Zionist government who is the cause of much bloodshed in the world. even the Jews do not like their Zionist government, and even if Iran would had nuclear weapon they could never use for they will know it will be the end of Iran itself. this is nothing but BS from western powers to remove their government and put a puppet government that will commit massive human rights, killing and massacres of Iranian people, like the Shah, another puppet of western powers, did for 25 years. don't just believe things without thought, and without consideration. this is why you have been given a mind, so use it.
what has israel done to iran?
BLOW THEM OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH
it is amazing that people come on here and speak of Iran being dangerous and violent people but such idiots are completely comfortable with statements like, "kill them all, nuke them all, destroy them all".
Israel will not attack Iran unless as a last resort in case there will be no other way to prevent an Iranian attack on Israel. If it happens, however, Israel will use enough force to assure that Iran will have no capability and no desire to strike back. Israelis and their leaders are not suicidal.
THE PRESENCE OF NUCLEAR WEAPON OF ONE COUNTRY IS A GOOD THING.COZ OTHER COUNTRY WILL RESPECT THEM . IT CREATES BALANCE AS LONG ITS NOT IN THE HAND OF LUNATIC TRIGGER HAPPY TYRANT
The presence of nuclear weapons in the hands of anyone is a bad thing. They aren't a deterrent anymore. This isn't the 1940's. The launching of even one nuclear weapon would most likely usher in a nuclear war. Something no one wants. That said while no one should have them the last place you want them is in reach of an unstable region as your chances of that fate happening come that much closer to reality.
You are more evil than the ones you are calling lunatics.
Just look at you evil thoughts.
Why have you decided to work for the looser LUCIFER.?
I WONDER WHAT WOULD AMERICANS THINK IF THE WAR WILL HAPPEN TO THEIR OWN SOIL...WOULD THEY TAKE WAGING A WAR LIGHTLY?
Check your history it has happened before. What would happen the following day is every man and woman able would be willing to join the fight. Not to mention the US public is one of the most if not the most well armed public in the world. If another country did invade you can bet that dealing with our military will be the least of their problems.
you got that right
"Well, there are certain parts of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try and invade."
- Humphrey Bogart, "Casablanca"
To that I would add Detroit, south central Los Angeles, and most of Texas.
So many Towel Heads. So little time. Hahahahahahahahahaa
Iran would have to strike back. If it failed to it would be perceived by the public as being in a weakened state and thus threatens the regimes survival. Another thing that this article doesn't touch on is what would the response be from Iran's allies? People forget that Venezuela, Cuba, and a few other South American countries are allies of Iran and not on great terms with the US. While singularly they may pose little threat a coordinated effort between them could be problematic. Then you also have isolated countries like North Korea that may see this as an opportunity to strike blows at the rest of the world while their attention is focused elsewhere. All in all the notion of "A military intervention [in Iran] would not solve the problem [of Iran's nuclear program], but would trigger war and chaos in the Middle East and maybe the world." isn't that far fetched. But the smaller countries aren't the major unknown here. What would Russia and China do if a global war were to break out? That is the major question here.
North Korea, currently, is a non-issue. It's biggest aggressor was Kim Jong-Ill. With his death, the biggest problem in North Korea is gone. As far as South America goes, they are too busy working their drug trade to really have a military that could do anything. Cuba may be an issue only because if they get it in their head to solidify, they MIGHT over-run Gitmo. The chances, however, are slim.
I think they will. This could probably be the warning of Nostradamus and may have seen on his vision.
The USA must rid itself of this parasite called Israel before it entangles us in a nuclear war.
Why does everyone alway's blame the Jews. If someone was holding a potential A bomb under my ass I'd be
concerned and would have to deal with it in whatever way it would take to neutralize the threat.
espeacialy if they threatenend to annialate me. what would you do? you don't need to think too hard to
answer that one.
In geo-strategic terms, this is the most severe crises of the Post Cold War period... this includes the 1991 Gulf War. Frankly, I'm becoming alarmed. It seems that none of the players want a war... yet all feel they must proceed on their current course towards war. All have their reasons. There are also secondary players (Russia, China, India) that are attempting to protect their interests in the region. This is explosive.
Israel must be made to understand that a nuclear armed Iran can be contained. Is that risky? Yes. Very risky. However a war is even more risky... and will be inconclusive. If Israel untertakes polices that allow it to become part of an alliance-perhaps with NATO-Iran can be contained till healthier elements take charge in Tehran.
Might Iran attain nukes and just launch them during the first available crises (which is sure to come)? Yes. That is a risk. However it is not likely. Israel and the US have a second strike capability that can end several thousand years of Persian history in minutes.
I understand Israel's reluctance to accept a nuclear armed Iran. But it needs to consider the interests of the 310-million people that comprise its' closests ally. A war now will devestate the world economy and leave millons in severe hardship. This will not help Israel's relationship with the American people.
Contain. We can do this. We saw off a nuclear armed Stalin and Mao. (At the same time). There is no reason we can't see of these clowns in Tehran. But we need to be wise and act together.
How can Israel launch an attack in the spring when the US doesn't even have a penatrator bomb big enough to take out the vast concrete fortified undergound facility at Quom. This according to Panetta. The largest one we have isn't big enough and right now we are going back to the drawing board to make a bigger one.. It can only be dropped by a B2. What good is a raid if you go in without the necessary tools to complete the objective?
Russ, we have the bomb. Have faith. We don't tell the world everything we have.
The whole premise of this is junk. If we keep our powder dry Iran will do nothing. If Iran should preempt all hell would break loose and their position would be indefensible. Of course they are willing to attack US sovereign, that's what they did when they attacked and occupied our embassy. That was an act of war and our response should have been fairly easy to sort out. Alas, not the case, right or wrong. If Iran goes nuclear it carries no more meaning than North Korea, or Pakistan. An annoyance but certainly not the end of the world. Obviously, or we'd all be dead by now.
That is correct. And it is why Jimmy Carter was held in such contempt by the right. He gave up the Canal, admitted the Marielitos (Castro conned him on this one) and gave up our embassy in Tehran. Fortunately, Reagan righted the
course. Obama needs step down on Iran now...
And it is why Jimmy Carter was held in such contempt by the right. He gave up the Canal,
The Panama canal, belongs to Panama.
You seem to have a problem with A Democrat who did the right thing.
The Iranian regime is ready to attack America now. Meanwhile it supports the Syrian dictatorship and the Hezbollah terrorists. It undermines rational government in Iraq and in Afghanistan. The Iranian people won't be disappointed if real government appeared in Iran.
I'm no apologist for the Iranian gov., but how, pray tell, would Iran initiate a successful war with the US? More importantly "why?" other than "make a buncha nukes, hurrr". If they want any heavy-duty support from RUS/CHI they would have to be the victim of an Israeli, NATO/US first-strike. I don't see that happening. The Persians pre-Islam where the cornerstone of civilization, they are great and proud people , especially in the north. "Hey, why is that Iranian white with green eyes?", says the ignorant. Answer: they're not arabs dummy. To be clear, race doesn't matter, but many think Iran is like Iraq: Nope.I saw red-haired gingers in northern Iraq, blonds even. Don't paint all these folks with the "crazy [insert stupid religion] fundy" brush. I wish they could throw off the shackles of their backwards leaders, they'd be the France or Germany of the East, and a great stabilizing force. Plus Iran has some gorgeous, gorgeous women. The naughty ones only have the hi-jab half way up and they are real beauties. The people need to kick the extreme Islamic gov. habit. Just as we need to eliminate corporations buying capital hill. Average Joe's all over the world have a lot to do..And killing people from across the sea isn't on the list...Although I would fuhk for peace, embrace the multicultural pleasure
All this from a country that couldn't win a war with Iraq In 8 years. And the US did It In 3 Weeks, I hope they think real hard about It be for they attack the US.
It would be most entertaining, wouldn't it?
We won in Iraq? What did we win? The only war we ever won was WW11 all the others we came home with our tail between our legs. Lets get real, it's all about the oil.
If we went to war for Oil, where is the oil?
Who strikes who?, I think that's where the conflict lies. It looks like more of a paranoia to me.
I love it! there should be a war so that we know for sure where everyone stands (or no one is standing).
Cowards Israel & Iran both come on let it rip guys!
well,,something is going to give,,and israel is not going to blink,,,,,america can wage war on three fronts,,,iran will pay a heavy price in blood and infrastructure,,,it will look like somalia on the ground when its over,,with starvation,,no power water and dead all over the country,,,i hope iran thinks its worth it.
that might be the case on the ground but China and Russia are backing Iran, I dont think they will let it happen that easily.China can hurt the US without firing a single bullet. They own so much of our debt that just dumping tbonds on the market would make the dollar worth 10 cents and send us in total bankruptcy. I dont think too many soldiers will want to go risk their lives for a war they dont believe in and not get a pay check for it. There is a lot more invloved right now than jsut bombing a country. So sad that people think this way.
you forget that we have one very useful weapon against China's dropping the bonds on us.
We trigger inflation, and China's holdings would shrink overnight. That would be a pre-emptive strike to thwart their economy, and availability of cash reserves. Once the Chinese revert to complete communism (as opposed to controlled capatilism), it's own people would rise up in a Oriental Summer (as opposed to an Arab Spring). While the inflation would cause havoc throughout the world economy, so would any military intervention by China or Russia. btw, while Russia has nukes, it's conventional forces are no longer a threat to many countries, including Israel.
....And completely destroy China's economy.
China won't go to war over Iran. They aren't stupid. We're seeing blow-back from the Project for a New American Century during Bush 2 (both parties were complicit). China and Russia have to appear to stand up to the US even if in reality all 3 country's economic elite are trying to figure out how to get even richer. War is only good business as long as you are superior to your foe. See the problem? China and Russia can't project power like the US can. That's why they speak of their borders when they tell us to be very careful when waving our d1ck around in the mid-east. And we should mind their borders, we wouldn't put up with Russians, Iranians or Red Chinese setting up shop in Cuba or Montreal. This is Real-Politik in action. The Doomsday freaks will have to look elsewhere, too bad...
Nuts on the nukes. We should probably launch an all-out war against them right now. They have been a beliigerent nation for 32 years. If we wait much longer, they will be too strong. Take out their nukes first then blast their missile sites.
Without the nukes and missiles, they are dead. What are they going to do? Put their dough-boys on those funky little patrol boats and ship them over here? They can't compete in the air or on the water. The time now.
America should send Charles Manson, Timothy McVeigh, and all the other insane mf'ers we have over to Iran and give them some good old American Martyrdom. Problem solved. Send them over to spread Herpes or H.I.V. and blow themselves up in school zones. America can be just as insane as Iran if it wants to. Iran on American soil would be the funniest 30 min. film ever made.
reminding Israeli politicians that the Persian king Cyrus the Great is one of the main players in the Jewish people’s historiography. As such, Israelis should not attack the land of Cyrus.
there is an ancient friendship between Iran and Israel that history-revisionists cannot delete.
In 539 BC, Persian king Cyrus the Great freed the Jewish captives from Babylon and declared they may return to their homeland. He promised to rebuild their destroyed temple. Subsequently, the Persian king Darius the Great was notified by the Jewish authorities that the funding promised by Cyrus had not been sent and the temple was still unfinished. After reviewing the records, Darius confirmed “In the first year of Cyrus the King, King Cyrus decreed: Temple of God in Jerusalem … will be rebuilt” and the expense is to be provided by the royal household. The Persians eventually completed the funding of the Jewish temple, because in their culture a promise is a promise!
Iran’s foundation was based on tolerance and peace. This Iranian grand strategy has endured throughout the centuries. Israel, more than the U.S., has a close and binding “blood-oath” with Iran. It had an ally in a pre-1979 secular Iran, and it will have one in a post-Islamic Republic Iran. This is what the Israelis should nurture. Answer the Iranian people’s S.O.S. and stand with them with all you have for the sake of both peoples, and not the irrational and primitive sense of fear.
Iran isn't stupid. If they indeed want the bomb, it isnt to use it but to keep it as a deterrent from potential enemies. They see that it worked between the US and Russia. It's called the policy of Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD). Now it would be understandable to resist them if they were the first to develop the capability in the region. The truth is they're not. Israel is widely believed to have nukes. If the West's intentions are for stability then they have to ensure that either Israel loses its nukes or countries in the region are allowed to pursue the policy of MAD. The true intention of the West (primarily the US and Israel) is that they want to retain the ability to attack any country at will without fear of repercussions. I don't ever anticipate the world will reach Koombaya mode so the West's selfishness is understood, however cut the crap about portraying yourselves as the moral good side. Hypocrites get it the worst in the end.
Iran does not want to drain its energy resources (oil and gas) thats why it needs an alternate. And the best alternate for them is nuclear power. Oil and gas are strategic resources. Thats why the US has strategic stockpiles. The US and Israel intend for ME countries to be drained of oil by the time they themselves have alternate energy supplies. And when the oil dries out then ME countries fall economically and strategically. Iran is trying to prepare for that time and the US and Israel don't want to let it happen.
OK Then why threaten to wipe them the jews off the face of the earth ?
If they only want to save thier reserves WHY?
Hey Don what is Israel been doing for the past 20 years ?
Why do you keep repeating this false translation? Get it straight. If you believe nonsense, you and your country men will go off to war yet again when you have no business to do so. The American press keeps posing the question to so-called experts as though going to war with Iran is a Sunday picnic and a fait accompli. The US/Israel keep sticking the stick in the monkey's cage ... drones, lost hitchhikers wandering into Iran, killing nuclear scientists, blaming Iran for anything they can think of, sanctions, warships in the Persian Gulf, and if Iran responds verbally in any way, you say they are crazy. Also the US and Israel will lean on all their allies to pay for and support this atrocity.
*** sam
Hey Don what is Israel been doing for the past 20 years ?
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Defending itself from attacks by its Arab neighbors.
It looks like we have learned nothing from the U.S. invasion of Iraq. There is no real evidence on which to base any invasion/bombng of Iran-just like Iraq. Any country that violates Iran will experience immediate retaliation from "insurgents" – the citizens of Iran -–like the citizens of Iraq stood up to defend their country from the U.S. invaders. Since we've been supporting Israel as the only "democracy" (& for many other out-dated reasons) in the Middle East, that will mean more U.S. tax dollars will be spent in this ridiculous, pompous, puffed-up show of false superiority by the Israeli government. Israel, learn to get along with your neighbors--you've failed at this for 2,000 years!! Grow up.
I can't imagine Iran with nuke. If this happens, Iran will rule the world.
You bet . A miscalculation by the warmongers may send The Middle East back to stone age, oil price will skyrocjket , China and Russia will benefit and watch the U.S. implode. Not a pretty scenario.
Iran would only last for a short term. Why, using their own words, They have never attacked another country. They don't have the technology and even more important, they don't have the experience to do so. They can have all the military they want but they have never learned how to do so. What navy do they have and how many missle can they fire before they either run out or their guidance radar is destroyed. Lets get this over with
It seems to me like now is the time to reflect on the direction taken by the US government and its foreign policy. It's time to stop playing the world poilice and maybe apologized to the world for how our government has behaved over the last decades. Maybe elect a government that will be more isolationist. How much longer do we expect others not to retaliate after what is done to them ??? No one wants a nuclear war...its pretty obvious that the result is a lose-lose for everyone. Stop buying in the fear propaganda and lets not do anything pre-emptively. I know Thats how war are started nowadays by our government but this is wrong. If Iran or Israel makes a wrong move the people of all nations will be there to stand together and condemn it and if a war needs to start then so be it but at least it will be for the right reasons. We fear others attacking us when we have been attacking so many countries for the wrong reasons. How hypocritical. Lets not support Israel and not get involved with Iran. It's time to look in the mirror and have a government that will be more respectful of other nations and not create hatred towards us.
A Canadian tell us what we should do, honk honk.
are you agreeing with me or using strong arguments to contradict my opinion?
You people in the U.S. haven't got a clue. You have been going after the wrong country. It has been Iran all along and you got rid of Saddam who fought against them and hated them......How brilliant of you.......Now Iran runs Iraq.....
Yea, a Canadian can say it. The US had our help in Afghanistan and Libya, which we paid for with blood and treasure and they are already getting our government on side for this fiasco.
I don't agree with apoligizing for being bombed by planes but I also wish both sides would just swallow it down and get over it. At the same time I don't see Russia or China stepping in to help resolve things.
What choice is there? To allow Iran to become a nuclear power is to insure instability in the region, and if they sell the technology, the world. In this instance, all participants of a conflict will suffer intense economic and social pain. But, that is the price of freedom. This is not a situation that can be negotiated out of. Nuclear weapons are already in the hands of North Korea and Pakistan. If Iran is next, Venezuela will be next followed by Argentina and so on.
cause we're all in this together and we'd love to take a bath!
Russia and china interests , embassies and economic departments will be under attack in the middleast and any where in the world
as they defend the killers in Syria and iran those evil must be dealt with on grass root level and must be hit hard before we hit bashar al asad of Syria, the resistant are working hard now to find the targets inside Russia and Russian targets inside middleast .,..wait and see ... bashar al asad killed 9345 almost 10,000 people already as his father before him who killed 30,000 in one week, those killers must be hanged, Saddam was hanged because he order to kill 40 spies, so al asad must be hanged 40 time over and over again
THE MADDEST AYATHOLLA IS PLAYING SATAN IN IRAN, A HISTORIC COUNTRY. THE MADDEST POLITICIANS THERE ARE GOING TO GIVE MILLIONS OF IRANIAN HUMAN BEINGS LIVES AS PREY TO ISRAELI NUKES. IS ALLAH HIS OWN? BUT THERE ARE MANY REASONS TO BELIEVE THAT HE IS CONTROLLED BY SATAN. AFTER A DECADES OF HIS OOOOCKING RULING IN THAT COUNTRY MADE THE PEOPLE POORER THAN EVER BEFORE. THE MAD NEJAD ONCE TOLD TO WIPE OUT ISRAEL FROM WORLD MAP NOW REPEATING BY MAD KHOMENI TO ELIMINATE ISRAEL FROM THE REGION! POOR PEOPLE THE ULTIMATE SURVIVORS AND PREYS.
I absolutely do not want a war to start anywhere, period, BUT with Iran I see little other option as sanctions have done nothing but stall the inevitable. Iran has been and still is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. Any doubt? On day one, it's first act was to take Americans hostage in sovereign U.S. territory, it's embassy. This is the way they chose to start their "revolution" For 444 days the new government did NOTHING. It is the responsibility of the government to protect the staff and property of any embassy in the country. Iran is dead set on abstaining a nuclear weapon and of all nations in the world, has blatantly shown it's propensity to use it as a tool. Some argue containment as we did with the USSR. Iran is not the USSR. Iran, while it may not use a nuke directly, certainly would be capable and likely to give it to one of it's proxies to use against the West. With that threat, who will challenge Iran and hold it accountable in the future? We have contained North Korea for some simple reasons; it has no source of revenue and needs the U.S. for help, though it saber rattles and two it does listen to it's main benefactor, China which does reign it in. Iran does not have either constraint and is a very proud and messianic nation. Unfortunately, the only option, though bad, is to hit Iran and hard. Not limited strikes, but in a way that really, REALLY hurts. Because of the consequences to so many nations, the U.S. and Israel as well as the Europeans, there will need to be cooperations between these nations as well as other middle east countries to have a coordinated and massive strike against Iran, even beyond the nuclear facilities. If it just hits the nuke sites, Iran will eventually rebuild. The hit has to be hard and big. Iran needs to have it's infrastructure seriously hurt so the regime will fall. There simply is no other option than regime change, not just nuke containment. Unless this commitment is made, the issue will continue and become an even bigger problem years later with an Iran that will fight for survival. An occupation is not an option, but a continuing series of strikes, very massive at first and then in response to ANY Iranian attempt to recover. It really is an all or nothing question. The time for negotiating is over as Iran has stalled to this point and will do so in the future.
Why not first srike at the Zionist Isra-hell & finish of its nukes & isra-hell itself they are the biggest threat to all the countries in the middle east & Isra-hell is the second biggest sponcer of terrorism first being America the self appointed world policeman who is hated the world over & whose super armies are running away from major battle grounds of the world be it vietnam, lebenon, somalia, iraq & the last but not the least AFGHANISTAN what a shme on this socalled world only super power
*** Isra-hell ...............
Clever.
Bet you feel real smart coming up with that.
Six year olds shouldnt be alowed to post.
Let Iran have Nukes. Isreal can protect themselves. And if Iran threatens the U.S. with Nukes, the U.S. has enuff Nukes to erase their country off the planet.Iran having Nukes just means another cold war and jobs were plentiful when the U.S. and Russia had their cold war. Sounds simple to me.
It's called let them dig their own grave if they so wish
Zionist Propaganda !
On Jan. 30th. An Israeli Journalist (Ronen Bergman) was the guest on "Talk Of The Nation " on NPR , spreading the warmongering propaganda of the Zionist w/o a chance for others who oppose these senseless wars to challenge.
Toward the end of the show , The host (Neal Conan ) asked N. Bergman that why would Iran risk attacking Israel, when
Israel has about 300 nuclear weapons?
Bergman reply was- "The problem is not the nuclear threat", " The Iranian are not stupid" he went on to say that the majority of Israeli leaders do not believe that Iran would attack Israel. But the Israeli defense minister (Barak) has told him
that" Israel should maintain nuclear monopoly" and if Iran aquire nuclear capability then Israel would have to think twice
before attacking others.
This is pure ARROGANS on part of the Israeli Zionist
*** and if Iran aquire nuclear capability then Israel would have to think twice
before attacking others.
What "others" has Israel attacked ?
Israel has defended herself from attacks by
Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.
Israel has not attacked anybody.
Your propaganda fails.
Iran will surely be the loser against the United States and Israel. Iran was unable to defeat Saddam Hussein and is not a match for allied western powers and other Arab nations that would quickly be mobilized against them to bring down the hateful and misguided theocracy that has long oppressed the peaceful moderates of Iran.
Iran a real threat? Yeah right! A couple of Mushroom Clouds later and there won't be a threat. Just a new oil field capable of producing high octain fuel will be left. It will already have its very own black-top parking lot. All we will need to do is paint the new lines!
With as much BS talk fron this 3rd World Arm Pit, I say they need to put their money where their mouth is. Same goes for Syria!
Yep and we run our cars and oil furnaces on radio active Isotopes brilliant
Typical response from a right wing redneck who hasn't got a clue of the consequences. More countries will be drawn in and it will escalate.
When one country attacks and/or invades another country, and thus threating stability of the region, the UN implements sanctions and posiibly no fly zones and possibly military action.
So, If Israel atacks Iran, it would only be traditional and even handed practice for the UN to advocate the implementation of sanctions against Israel and establish a No Fly Zone.
Anyone here reckon that is going to happen?
Israel could and have attacked the US (Remember, USS Liberty) and get away with it, Israel could even attack the UN and get away with it (and Israel has).
Iran will find herself in a no win situation, just like Assad in Syria.
If Iran and Syria sovled the problem of food shortages around the world and no more children ever starved because of Syria and Iran, they would both still be "An axis of evil" with Israel wanting them toppled or dead.
I do not care who is who in all this, but for frigs sake, it is that bloody obvious it is not funny.
*** Paul of Perth
When one country attacks and/or invades another country, and thus threating stability of the region, the UN implements sanctions and posiibly no fly zones and possibly military action
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So, by your logic, when Israel was attacked by
Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon,
The Un should have put sanctions on those countries, right ?
Fair is fair, right ?
What do they think they are libya.iraq,or Afghanstan ? I think they have a global reach,and they may have CHINA,russia,n korea,turkey,lebanon,pakistan,india,egypt coming to their AID.......WW3 +
Bush and the GOP concentrated on Iraq and Afghanistan as the greatest threats. Remember Bush and his talk about the threat of an Iraq mushroom cloud. Well the chickens have come home to roost. The greatest threat has always been Iran and the GOP with all their pounding of their chest lied to the American people. Now as the world is on the brink of war.
You people in the U.S. haven't got a clue. You have been going after the wrong country. It has been Iran all along and you got rid of Saddam who fought against them and hated them......How brilliant of you.......Now Iran runs Iraq.....
does iran has enuff guts?
Iranian military would last about 2 weeks, same as Iraq. We could destroy their military, absolutely destroy their infastructure, hunt down their leaders, and execute them. Then go home. Leave Iran in rubble
Militarily Iran is a joke. They have no significant conventional military capability. Remember how Iraq was said to have the fourth largest military in the world and then they collapsed in 100 hours? Remember all those Iraqi soldiers surrendering when the U.S. military showed up? Same thing would happen in Iran. Those idiot mullahs don't realize that they don't have the support of the people. Afterwards we'd (i.e. the U.S.) have the same problem as with Iraq; building a democracy from scratch in a country that never had one. With all the usual suspects jockeying for power in the new gov't. It would be Iraq all over again. We could do it. The deciding factors would be the cost, loss of lives, and the length of time necessary to accomplish the task.
War never solve any problem. War can give birth of another war. Whatever we do, we get results of our all works. We feel pain when our any family member killed by someone, and it happens to others as well. so, I hope this problem will solve peacefully then its good for everyone.
I think it is happening. We need to prepare. Mostly spiritually.
http://www.calvaryprophecy.com/
Why does no one seem to understand that this will ruin the entire world as we know it, if it happens.
Nothing is as it used to be, wars are no longer regional. This conflict will set catastrophic alliances. Iran doesn't need to have nukes, their allies have plenty.
Bottom line is everyone will lose.
No one is right or justified in this matter.
The only flag that will be raised at the end of this is one made of the bodies of the people of the world.
This is horrifying, & anyone who cant see that is plainly stupid.
KUS OMAHATKUM SHIIE3A KELAB
fuc najaf and karbala and all the shiie3a and all the wahabies and all muslims iraninas are thugs killers terrorists , dont allow muslims to come here to usa and canda speciallay iranians , we must attack iran , QUM, KARBALA AND NAJAF NOW , ATTACK HIZBOALLAH ALL THOSE ARE TERRORISTS ALLIED WITH EVIL IRAN AND BASHAR AL KALB, QUM GRADUATE KILLERS AND MOT3A PEOPLE, KUS OMAHATKUM KELAB KHAWANA SHIIE3A ESHROOG MANAWEEK,
WELD AL MOT3A SAFWEEN, KUS OMAHAT BASHAR AL KALB, AND MOQTADA AL QATHER WA NORI AL HALEKI HOLAKO BAGHDAD, KUS OMAHATKUM FORS MAJOOS ESHROOF. TOF 3AL OMAHATKUM
WE MUST TAKE OVER IRAN NOW AND FUC THEIR MOTHERS AND SISTERS IN MOT3AA , SHIIA LOVE MOTAA AND THEY GIVE THERE MOTHERS AND SISTERS FOR MOTAA TO MAKE MONEY, SHIIA MEN STINK AND DIRTY. THEY EAT GARLIC EVERY DAY ESHROOG KELAB NAJAS.
VOICE IN THE WIND AND FU WAHABI THOSE ARE SHIIA VILLAGE IDIOTS LIVE IN USA .
most of those shiia thigs who lives here are terrorists help iran and hizboallah and send money to them those evil shiia kelab al majoos al safween worse than kelab al wahabeen .....middleast should run by non rlegion group. keep your faith in your home and in QUM AND THE EVIL CITY OF NAJAF AND KARBALA THE HOORE CITIES WHERE MOTAA ( LEGAL ADULTERY -ZENA IS PRACTICED ). LA3ANAKUM ALLAH YA KELAB YOU DESTROY ISLAM IRAN MUST END HIZBOALLAH MUST DIE AND END AHMEDI NEJADI THE CHIEF OF THE SHIIA MUST BE ELEMENATED. HE IS RETARD LIKE ALL THE SHIIE3A WHO MARRY THEIR COUSINS AND SISTERS, INBREED NATION OF EVIL ( GOG AND MAGOG)
Shia and sunni.
What is thier silly hatred over ?
Thier "messiah" dies, and now they fight who who should be
the next boss.
Petty little children.
iraqi government of NORI AL HALEKI ,KILLING CHRISTEANS
لا يتعلم العملاء من دروس التاريخ ، فهم مدفوعون باحقاد متجذرة في نفوسهم على كل ما هو عراقي وعربي ، فمع اقتراب موعد الانسحاب الامريكي المفترض من العراق تسارعت خطوات المهزومين باتجاه التخلص من قادة العراق في الاسر في اقرب وقت ، سواء باساءة معاملتهم اكثر مما سبق بمنع الدواء والعلاج عنهم لاجل قتلهم ، او التهديد بتنفيذ الاعدام بهم كما حصل مع شيخ الاسرى المناضل طارق عزيز . ان المزيج الواضح من الحقد والرعب من تحرير العراق هو الذي يدفع العملاء في بغداد للتهديد باعدام قادة العراق الاحرار والشرعيين ، ولكن هؤلاء لا يفهمون التاريخ ولذلك لا يأخذون العبر منه ، فالتاريخ يقول بان الاعدامات التي تنفذ للتخلص من الاحرار تزيد لهيب الثورة اشتعالا بدل اخمادها ، وامامنا مشهد اغتيال سيد شهداء العصر القائد صدام حسين حيث تحول الاغتيال الى مناسبة لزيادة عزلة الاحتلال والعملاء وتوسع شعبية القائد الشهيد والبعث .
واذا كان العملاء يعتقدون بانهم سيفلتون من عقاب الشعب فهم واهمون ، لان جرائمهم اكبر من ان تمر بلا عقاب ، ومنها اغتيال مئات القادة وتصفية الاف الكوادر المقاومة للاحتلال ، واعتقال عشرات الالاف من معارضي الاحتلال ، بالاضافة لتدمير العراق وتبديد وسرقة ثرواته علنا بحيث اصبح العراق المحتل في مقدمة الدول الفاسدة والفاشلة . ومهما اعتقد العملاء بان الاغتيالات سوف تضعف الثورة المسلحة ضد الاحتلال فان النتائج ستظهر لتؤكد بان الدم كلما سفك زاد لهيب الثورة وعجل موعد الحسم .
ان طارق عزيز يمثل احد اهم الوجوه المشرقة والمشرفة للعراق الحر والمستقل والسيد وصانع انجازات التقدم العلمي والتكنولوجي ، وهو كان يعد من افضل الديبلوماسيين في العالم ووصل امر الاعتراف بقدراته حد ان جورج بوش الاب حينما كان رئيسا ، وبعد فشل المفاوضات في عام 1991 بين وفد العراق برسائة طارق عزيز والوفد الامريكي برئاسة جيمس بيكر وزير خارجية امريكا وقتها ، قال امام بيكر وغيره بانه يتمنى لو كان لديه وزير خارجية بمواصفات طارق عزيز . هؤلاء هم رجالات العراق العظام سواء الاسرى منهم او من استشهد ومن مازال يقاوم الاحتلال بلا كلل .
ان اسرانا يخطون بتضحياتهم تاريخا مشرف للعراق ةوالامة العربية ، بصمودهم ورفضهم الانحناء لغطرسة الاحتلال ووحشية عملاءه ، وهم يعرفون منذ البداية بان درب تحرير الوطن وتحقيق اهداف الشعب ليس نزهة وانما هي تضحيات كبرى لا تنتهي الا بتحقيق اهداف الشعب ، ولذلك كانت وقفة رفاقنا وهم في الاسر مشرفة وتجلى ذلك في تمسكهم بمصلحة الشعب ورفضهم الرضوخ لتهديدات بالموت رغم ممارسة ابشع انواع التعذيب معهم وحرمانهم من ابسط حقوق الانسان الاسير ومنها العلاج وتوفير الدواء .
البعث الذي كان ومازال يناضل من اجل تحرر الامة وتحقيق المجتمع الخالي من الفقر والامية والمرض ...الخ وهذه الاهداف لا تتحقق الا بتضحيات مناضليه الذين يعرفون ان الاعدامات والاغتيالات مصير متوقع ومحسوب ، مثلما يعرفون ان الموت دفاعا عن الوطن هو خير خاتمة للحياة ، ففي النهاية جميعنا سنموت في يوم ما ولذلك فان اختيار الموت المشرف هو احد سمات صناع التاريخ والحضارات والتغييرات العظمى في مسار الانسانية . في ضوء ما تقدم فان التهديد بتنفيذ الاعدامات او تنفيذها فعلا لن يوقف مسيرة تحرير العراق واعادة العراق الى حالة الدعالة والاستقلال والامن وامان لمواطنيه كلهم بل على العكس سيزيد اصرار الثوار على التعجيل بالنصر وطرد الاحتلال وعملاءه .
وهنا لابد من تكرار التنبيه الى ان ما يسمى منظمات حقوق الانسان التي كانت تنظم الحملات الضخمة ضد العراق تحت واجهات خرق حقوق الانسان وكانت حملاتها احد اهم ممهدات غزو العراق تلتزم الصمت المطبق الان تجاه معاناة اسرانا وتعرضهم لاشد انواع خرق حقوق الانسان وعلنا ، ومع ذلك لا تفعل هذه المنظمات شيئا وكأن الامر لا يعنيها ! واذا كانت الدعوة لحماية حقوق الانسان جادة فان من الحتمي معاملة كل البشر بصورة متساوية لا ان تجري عمليات انتقاء وتزوير وتضخيم من اجل الدفاع عمن تريد امريكا حمايتهم لكن مناهضي الاحتلال الامريكي لا ينالون اي قدر من كشف ما يقع عليهم من مظالم .
وبهذه المناسبة فاننا نكرر دعوتنا للكتاب والصحفيين الاحرار في العراق وفي الوطن العربي لرفع اصواتهم دفاعا عن اسرانا وكشفا لما يتعرضون له من مظالم فظيعة ، وذلك احد اهم واجباتهم الوطنية والاعلامية والاخلاقية ، والصمت بازاء ما يحصل لاسرانا ليس سوى خيانة للامانة ونكوص عن مسار النضال الوطني والتحرري ، والتاريخ الان يسجل كل شيء .
المجد لاسرانا الشهداء الاحياء وفي مقدمتهم شيخ الاسرى القائد طارق عزيز .
تحية لرفاقنا الصامدين في سجون الاحتلال والعملاء .
December 9, 2011 at 10:34 pm | Reply
I think you wrote that backwards.
It would be wonderful if we all could live in pease, however that is not the case and never will be. The bottom line is, take care of your own people. If Isreal doesn't attach Iran, Iran will attack Isreal. Iran is the one that should be illiminated, they are the cause of most of the worlds unrest!!!
Really?! Oh wow, so if my mortar died, I should go shoot an Iranian?
Don't comment on this website again.
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Really?! Oh wow, so if my mortar died, I should go shoot an Iranian?
Don't comment on this website again.
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And what will you do if he does post again ?
Stomp your feet and get mad ?
Everybody needs to remember this one LARGE problem Iran has,,
"If God is for you, than who can be against you"
you wont be fighting agianst Israel, you will be fighting over the God who is fully in control..
No matter what comes of this, that land will always be protected and the US must protect Israel at all costs, in fact they should send troops there now just to make sure that happens to the citizens of that country.
Iran will be fighting against a promise written thousands of years ago, a promise from our Lord above..
What we should all pray for is that all of us learn the truth and pray to have ears to hear and eyes to see.
You are a nutjob. Check yourself into a mental hospital.
If it happens we need to dismantle their (Iran) GPS satellite.
All of you Gentiles better be mentally ready for the events about to take place! has I repeated a million times on CNN! Israel will not be wiped out without taking our enemies with us! NO way that peace is possible ! only war will solve this and Iran's little buddies are next!!
and for all of you Liberal bleeding hearts trolling this site ! I tell you ! you will soon see how a true warrior and ancient nation takes care of business when put into a corner! The Zionists will take care of this problem once and for all!!
don't like it? come and fight us! see where that takes you !
Big Israel forever!!!
Until we finally have a state of war, talk between potential enemies is nothing but. If you look at what Iran is saying by drowning everyone as they drown, politically it means they do not want America or Israel getting involved with them at all. Unfortunately, this is putting them in some hot water. Civil issues are breaking Iran as a nation; their money is losing value, citizens are leaving boundaries, and alienation with the side of their nuclear development is only helping conspirators formulate theories of an Iranian nuclear war. Iran knows they cannot afford casualties, Israel knows this and wants to take quick action, and the American SecDef is trying to get all cards on the table before making a decision. In the end, war will obliterate Iran, and if they have the nukes everyone is afraid of then this bomb needs to be defused however possible. If not for the world's sake, then for Iran's.
The interest of the United States in this scenario is to prevent potential; if not massive out-migration of jew to europe or America. There will always be a mark on jew, where ever they go; either positive or negative. And the US knows that if America takes the refugees aboard; it will cause more potential enemies to hate even more the US. If Israel strikes or if Iran strikes; either way there will be massive out-migration from Israel. I hope they don't turn up knocking our doors, because if we do let them in; it will certainly burst oils among our own citizens and pretty much the opposition world.
نفى إرسال مقاتلين لمساعدة نظام الأسد
نصر الله: نتلقى السلاح والمال من إيران
نصر الله: أغنانا الله من إيران عن أي فلس في العالم (الفرنسية)
أقرّ الأمين العام لحزب الله اللبناني حسن نصر الله لأول مرة وصراحة بأن الحزب يتلقى من إيران السلاح والمال بما يغنيه عن مصادر أخرى، نافيا إرسال مقاتلين لمواجهة الاحتجاجات ضد النظام السوري الذي يواجه -حسبه- مؤامرة حيكت بين الغرب و"دول الاعتدال العربي" لإسقاطه.
وفي خطاب ألقاه أمس الثلاثاء عبر شاشة عملاقة أمام حشد من أنصار الحزب في الضاحية الجنوبية بمناسبة المولد النبوي الشريف، قال نصر الله "نتلقى الدعم المعنوي والسياسي والمادي بكل أشكاله الممكنة والمتاحة من الجمهورية الإسلامية في إيران منذ العام 1982".
وأقر نصر الله بأنها أول مرة يكشف فيها بهذه الصراحة عن الموضوع، قائلا "هذه الحقيقة كانت في السابق تقال بشكل جزئي.. كنا نقول لدينا دعم معنوي وسياسي، وعندما نسأل عن الدعم المادي والعسكري نسكت حتى لا نحرج الجمهورية الإسلامية".
وقال "أغنانا الله من إيران عن أي فلس في العالم.. لسنا محتاجين"، مؤكدا أن هذا الدعم يغني الحزب عن أنشطة غير مشروعة تتهمها به الولايات المتحدة كتبييض عائدات تهريب المخدرات.
وأضاف نصر الله أن الدعم الذي تقدمه إيران بلا مقابل وبلا إملاءات، وهم هناك "يدفعون أثمانا باهظة لوقوفهم إلى جانب فلسطين ولبنان".
وتابع أن إيران إذا تعرضت لضربة عسكرية -وهو أمر استبعده- "فنحن نفكر وندرس ماذا نفعل"، نافيا أن يكون النظام الإيراني يحمل مشروع التشيّع.
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حسن نصر الله:
شريحة كبيرة من الناس وداخل الجيش ما زالت تؤيد النظام السوري
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احتجاجات سوريا
وفي خطابه شكر نصر الله أيضا لسوريا دورها في دعم حزبه، وقال إن هناك شريحة كبيرة من الناس وداخل الجيش ما زالت تؤيد النظام السوري، لذا فإن "افتراض أن هذا النظام معزول شعبيا غير صحيح"، نافيا إرسال مقاتلين إلى سوريا للمساعدة في مواجهة الاحتجاجات.
ويواجه نظام بشار الأسد منذ مارس/آذار 2011 احتجاجات قتل فيها أكثر من ستة آلاف مدني حسب المعارضة.
وحسب نصر الله، باتت المعارضة المسلحة تطغى على الاحتجاجات في سوريا، حيث هناك "قرار أميركي إسرائيلي غربي عربي على مستوى دول الاعتدال العربي بإسقاط النظام"، لأن المطلوب في سوريا هو "رأس المقاومة في لبنان وفلسطين".
وانتقد الأمين العام لحزب الله من يشترط من المعارضة السورية لحوار النظام، قائلا "من يحرص على سوريا لا يقول فات الأوان، بل يذهب إلى الحوار دون شروط، لا بشرط تنحي الرئيس".
وتحدث عن اتصالات أجرتها أطراف على علاقة بالمعارضة السورية مع حزبه، حيث أبلغوه بقولهم "لا تقلقوا من النظام البديل.. نتعهد لكم باستمرار دعم المقاومة ووصول السلاح إليها".
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1. ذكرت في الحلقة السابقة ( السادسة ) اطمئناني لإخواني المترجمين العاملين في القواعد العسكرية الأمريكية الذين اتصلوا بي ليعنوا في رسائلهم توبتهم الى الله والوطن والشعب والذين تم تسميتهم بالأرقام بدلا من أسمائهم الحقيقية حرصا على أمنهم وحياتهم من قوات الاحتلال الأمريكي , وعاهدتهم بأنني سأقوم بتحويل أسمائهم والمؤشرة إزاء كل منهم أرقامهم السرية الى الجهات الخاصة المتعاونة مع المقاومة العراقية وهم كل من :
أ. المترجم التائب رقم ( 10) محافظة نينوى .
ب. المترجم التائب رقم ( 15 ) محافظة بابل .
ج. المترجم التائب رقم ( 20 ) محافظة التأميم .
د. المترجم التائب رقم ( 50 ) محافظة بغداد .
هـ. المترجمة التائبة رقم ( 75 ) محافظة بغداد .
و. المترجمة التائبة رقم ( 100 ) محافظة بغداد .
ز. المترجم التائب رقم ( 125 ) محافظة صلاح الدين .
2. أرسل لي المترجم رقم ( 50 ) من محافظة بغداد معلومات خطيرة عن عملاء مزدوجين للقوات الأمريكية والإيرانية وموثقة بالوثائق والصور التي تثبت ذلك وهم :
أ. العميل ( حسن سعيد حسن الكليدار ) مهنته ضابط شرطة متقاعد – محكوم سابق في زمن النظام السابق بتهمة مخلة بالشرف ( الرشوة والاختلاس ) لمدة سنين في سجن أبو غريب أثناء حكم النظام السابق .
عمله الحالي – عميل مزدوج للاستخبارات الأمريكية والإيرانية .ويكلف الى الآن بمهمات استخباراتي داخل بغداد وخارجها وخارج العراق
عنوانه : يسكن بغداد – الجهاد حي الأطباء
ب. العميل ( أمرو ألقيس حسن سعيد الكليدار ) قضى حياته في السرقة والنصب والاحتيال – هارب من الخدمة العسكرية أيام النظام السابق – خدم كجندي في الجيش الأمريكي في فرقة الخيالة الثالثة – كان من ضمن الفرقة القتالية التي اقتحمت الفلوجة – أنتسب الى الجيش الأمريكي عام 2003 والى الآن .
يعمل حاليا ضمن الاستخبارات الأمريكية في خدمة الجيش الأمريكي – عميل مزدوج للاستخبارات الأمريكية والإيرانية – ويكلف الى الآن بمهمات استخباراتية وقتالية داخل بغداد وخارجها وخارج العراق .
- لديه ورشة تبريد لتغطية أعماله الإجرامية
-عنوانه : يسكن بغداد – الجهاد حي الأطباء.
ج. العميل ( مروان حسن سعيد حسن الكليدار ) خدم مترجم لقوات الاحتلال الأمريكي – أنتسب عن طريق أبوه ( حسن سعيد حسن الكليدار ) الى الاستخبارات الأمريكية عام 2004 – والآن منتسب الى الاستخبارات الأمريكية
– يسكن بغداد – الجهاد حي الأطباء .
د. صديق عائلة حسن سعيد حسن الكليدار العميل المزدوج ( مازن التميمي ) يسكن مدينة السماوة ويعمل معهم ويرافقه في كل شي وهو احد أعضاء المجلس الأعلى للثورة الإسلامية (فيلق بدر)
د. صهر امرؤ ألقيس أي زوج بنت حسن سعيد واسمه العميل ( إبراهيم حربي إبراهيم القيسي ) وهو نائب ضابط سابق في الجيش العراقي ويعمل الآن مع القوات الأمريكية وقد نسبته القوات الأمريكية لحماية امن السفارة الألمانية وبعدها عمل في المنطقة الخضراء وكان يركب سيارة كولف حمراء .
عنوانه : منطقة المنصور حاليا .
3. إليكم الوثائق الموثقة بالصور أدناه للعملاء الجواسيس أعلاه ومعهم الكثير من العملاء العراقيين الذين باعوا دينهم وشرفهم للمحتل الكافر الأجنبي من الضباط والجنود الذين خدموا الاحتلال الأمريكي راجيا من أبناء العراق النشامى وفي حالة معرفة كل من يظهر في هذه الصور ان يزود المقاومة العراقية بأسمائهم ومناطق سكناهم او تزويد الشبكات والمواقع التي ستنشر هذه الاعترافات بأسمائهم وعناوين سكناهم وأية معلومات أخرى يعرفونها عنهم , والوثائق هي :
• اسمه ( أمرو ألقيس حسن سعيد الكليدار ) قضى حياته في السرقة والنصب والاحتيال – هارب من الخدمة العسكرية أيام النظام السابق .
• خدم كجندي في الجيش الأمريكي في فرقة الخيالة الثالثة
• كان من ضمن الفرقة القتالية التي اقتحمت الفلوجة
• أنتسب الى الجيش الأمريكي عام 2003.
• يعمل حاليا ضمن الاستخبارات الأمريكية في خدمة الجيش الأمريكي .
• عميل مزدوج للاستخبارات الأمريكية والإيرانية – ويكلف الآن بمهمات استخباراتية وقتالية داخل بغداد وخارجها وخارج العراق .
• لديه ورشة تبريد في منطقة المنصور لتغطية أعماله الإجرامية .
• يسكن بغداد – الجهاد حي الأطباء.
والعميل الجاسوس : امرؤ ألقيس حسن سعيد حسن الكليدار : هو من مدينة سامراء ومن عائلة الكليدار التي تسكن المدينة وهي عائلة مشهورة بالالتزام الديني والتقيد بالعادات والتقاليد , نشأت هذا العميل في بغداد , والده شرطي واسمه حسن وهو معروف بسقوطه الأخلاقي وانحرافه وقد حكم عليه سابقا بالسجن (10)سنوات بتهمة الاغتصاب والرشوة وطرد من الخدمة .
Only if it wants to be struck out.
The politicos from the US/UK/EU are right now in contact with their counterparts in China and Russia. China and Russia will not spill their blood for Iran's insane government. Nor will we attack. Russia will play the part of the overbearing parent to Syria and Iran, but both China and RUS are too wise to trade blows with the west. It won't happen. Assad will be deposed or he will crush the resistance. We must wait and see. Russia only makes about 200 million a year supplying arms w/ Syria. Not worth it. Iran will not start a war either, for all their bluster a concentrated US air assault would neuter them in 2 weeks. Iran will continue to fight it's shadow war via Hezbollah and other puppet paramilitary elements. They will likely expand their espionage and sabotage capabilities in order to strike at her enemies. If it REALLY went down the US has more nukes than then the rest of the world by a factor of 5. If you don't believe we have a ballistic missile defense system in place you're not paying attention. Lone-wolf suicide bombers will be used instead. None of the G8 countries will spill blood for Iran or Syria, it is a fact. China and Russia aren't stupid. There are so many ignorant sickos who salivate at the thought of WW3, amazing and sad.
/end rant
WW3 will happen, our nature assures it. We fight for limited resources, and our populace is only swelling at unsupportable rates. What happens when these people go jobless, homeless and add to an already overstressed and fragile system? The system breaks, chaos is unleashed, and a correction occurs. What is the correction? The elimination of excess life. It's nature 101...hell, just look at the recent market collapse for the model.
There is not enough biomass on this world to support a soon to be 10 billion person population. We are our own worst enemy...but only because there are too many of us; take that and add the human need to horde and you have a recipe for disaster.
Seriously folks.. you're worried about a 3rd world coutnry that hasn't won a conflict in how long? Look at your recent history.. they got their butts handed to them by the Iraqis .. and we took out thier military in how many days? This articale is so slanted, I am surprised it got published (not really by CNN)... even their comment "Iran may not be able to keep the Strait of Hormuz closed indefinitely, but even threats and potential attempts will cause volatility in the Persian " .. if they tried to block the straits, it would take one of the 3 carrier battle groups in the area about an hour maybe two to take out the Iranian navy. The only way they could block the staits is to use their sunkes ships as hazards in the shipping lanes...
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عودة المجرم الارهابي المدعو ( ابو علي البصري ) المستشار الامني لنوري المالكي
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بعد هروبه بطائره خاصه وبدون تاشيره الى خارج العراق بعد افتضاح عملية هروب الارهابيين من تنظيم القاعده المرتبطه باستخبارات الحرس الثوري وعددهم ( 12 ) ارهابي معتقلين في سجون القصور الرئاسيه في البصره حيث اشرف على عملية هروبهم الى ايران باشر المجرم ابو علي البصري في مهامه كمستشار امني لنوري المالكي بعد عودته السريه مع تكليفه بمهام جديده هي الاشراف على الخلايا الخاصه لحزب الدعوه وهي مليشيات مسلحه مقرها الرئيسي في محافظة بابل والجدير بالذكر ان ابو علي البصري تم تعينه مديرا للامن والمعلومات في مكتب المالكي بناءا على توصيه من قاسم سليماني كون المذكور عمل في جهاز السافاك سابقا وعمل فتره طويله في جهاز استخبارات الحرس وبعد تعينه كلف حصرا بالاشراف على عمليات التعذيب للسجناء من اهالي نينوى وديالى وضباط الجيش العراقي السابق والبعثيين المعتقلين في السجون السريه التابعه للمالكي وكان هذا المجرم يمارس التعذيب بحق السجناء حتى الموت وترمى جثثهم خارج حدود مجافظة بغداد .
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المرافق الشخصي لابراهيم اشيقر الباكستاني وحقيبة ( Emergency bag )
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وردتنا معلومات من مصدر مقرب من مرافق ابراهيم اشيقر الملقب ( الجعفري ) مفادها ما يلي :
سئل المصدر مرافق " الجعفري" عن سر حمل هذه الحقيبه عند مرافقته للجعفري في كل تنقلاته اجابه بما يلي :
1- الحقيبه تحتوي على مبلغ قدره ( 200 ) الف دولار .
2- اقلام ذهب .
3- ساعات يدويه ثمينه .
4- مستمسكات شخصيه خاصه بالجعفري ( منها عدة جوازات سفر ) .
وتبين للمصدر من خلال الاستفسار من مرافق الجعفري ان حمل هذه الحقيبه تحسبا من وقوع امر طارئ وبدورنا نفسر هذا الامر الطاري ( تحسبا للشلعه السريعه )
هؤلاء هم قادة العراق " الجديد " الحراميه ولا نستغرب ما يفكرون به لانهم اشباه رجال جعل منهم المحتل " رجال" .
No way, Jose.
I see a lot if Iranian government in here spouting off. Do not think all that are writing this are your normal citizens they are not there are Iranian government workers that infiltrate these sights to right pro Iran comments. Just as we can read it so can pro Iran government officials Don't be fooled by some of these pro Iran comments. If Iran wanted to be peaceful nation why build the bomb when larger countries are dismantling them. Israel has them but will not use them as a first option but i guarantee if Iran gets them they will use them as a first option weapon.Bottom line if Iran wantd to keep the peace get rid of ambitions for nukes and stop talking about wiping Israel off the face of the map.
Anyone foolish enough to believe Iran would not retaliate against Israel & USA, has no understanding of the cultural beliefs in this part of the world. Consider the many families from that part of the world, willing to kill their own children in the name of honor, " Honor Killings", to save the honor of the family, even knowing they will be spending the rest of their lives in prison. This is a belief that has been carried out for centuries... The saying " “If we drown, we'll drown everyone with us.” is REAL and the Iranians will save their "Honor" even if it means planetary annihilation for all of us.
Any govt voicing their willingness to gamble the safety of their country and citizens, deserves to be shut down and removed from office for sheer stupidity. God forbid that we give these people authority to act on our behalf.
They need to be hit and hit hard so that they cannot retaliate effectively. Their leadership has talked about wiping another country off the map and shown irrational aggression. They are very dangerous to the western world and the world at large.
Clearly, Iran is bluffing right now. That's why we can't wait till later on if and when they will have some nukes. IT CAN'T BE SIMPLER THAN THAT.
Nobody wants war. Especially a nuclear one.
We allow Iran to produce nuclear weapons is an invitation to a nuclear war (period)
War is going to happen...just too many hairless monkeys trying to get the same banana. The human race is screwed, lol. Oh well...so much for our rise when we fall in ruin by our own hand. Let's just get it over with shall we? The games have gotten old. Let's go out on our own terms before nature has a go at us.
Its right in front of us, life as we know it about to be revealed as a biblical truths, Isreal will attack Iran and the US with Obama and his wisdom (not) will pull back all support from Isreal to send a message that we are not supporting Isreal anymore. Isreal will be left to defend and US will be left to Gods Wrath.
I hope Israel hits them hard , and when Iran plans a retalitory strike the U.S.and nato should follow with a massive knock out blow.
I would not bet on Iran. The Muslim world was looking at Sadam Hussien as the only one who can challenge the US.
Islamista were waiting to see US defeated. At the end Sadam cried out that he does not have andy nuclear bomb. It was too late. So is Iran. It is a bully. Everey other country allowed it to bully. If a full blown war happnes within weeks Iraninans will be riding on camels back. These pandits boost Iran. Have you ever seen a Muslim not supporting Iran?
E=MC2 you are telling a big lie about Hebrew history, first af all the Caananites were the first on that land which is called the Levant by its ancient name, they were displaced by the Hebrews who were just a wandering tribe of nomads in the desert as they have always have been since from Disapora from the Pharoahs to the Babylonian captivity. The Hebrew language was derived from the Caananites, who invented one of the first written language in the Lavant. From the days of Esau one of Abrahams sons it has been known that the original Hebrews were part Neanderthal mixed with modern humans , this has been confirmed by Anthropolgists and they have taken enormous steps to hide this fact, which is why you see such a large numbers of Jewish control of the media as you see today. Anti-semitism is a lie because only about 5% of jews are of original hebrew genetic stock, the rest were assimilated into European genetic stock during the Disapora in Europe. One of the main reasons why there was a mssive resistance to mixing their genes with Modern European genes was bacause of the fact that they were part Neanderthal. This is why this brought about a final solution in Germany. The Khazars which were white europeans from the russian steppes assimilated the larger mass of Hebrews in europe, who had wooly hair and dark skin and many of their traditions which are foreign to the original hebrew traditions like the torah and gelflite fish in a jar were broght to the middle east by the jewish disapora. The Jews are an invented people and all of you in the western wortld are about to pay a terrible price for taking such an indefensible position sidng with them. To support them at a time in history where it will become your undoing is Insane. History will record this fatal mistake and it will be written about for a thousand years of how a sole world superpower was brought down by this lie like what happened to Germany after World War I .
stop the violence
this is ridiculous. what county WOULDNT strike back if their people or sovereignty was attacked?!
Well my opinion is that Iran has not proven to us that theyre a stable nation or responsible enough to have Nuclear Power therefore are not ready for it, if we have to go their and do some damage than let it be! I dont care about Israel let them fight their own battles and back their own with their own people and money why should Americans pay and sponsor their war and problems were not Jewish!!!!!!! were Americans and we need to think of our own interest here in America.
Wake up, Iran. We Europeans do not want your people to suffer. Overthrow the murderous Ayatollah. He is leading you to Armageddon! Do not allow him to plunge Iran into a deadly no-end alley war!