By Fareed Zakaria, CNN
Jeff Greenfield has a great piece in Bloomberg explaining why, due to Republican Party procedures, Newt Gingrich really can take the nomination battle all the way to the Republican National Convention. After Florida, there are only a few more statewide winner-take-all primaries.
As Greenfield writes, "What we have instead is a patchwork of rules: Most states allocate most of their delegates by congressional district; some have the top two finishers split those delegates; some give them all to the district winner, but only if he gets 50 percent or more; some use winner-take-all for each district."
This means it’s going to take Mitt Romney a long time to accumulate the delegates he needs to win the nomination outright. If Gingrich stays in the race and Ron Paul stays in, they’ll likely lock up enough delegates to be serious forces down the line. Also, remember, the Republican rules say that if a candidate wins pluralities of delegates in five states – and those can include Guam or Washington DC – then you name gets placed on the ballot. If the candidate chooses to stay in the race, the party then goes through the whole drama of voting at the convention.
This protracted struggle is made for Newt Gingrich. He wants to be up on stage giving a speech at the convention. It’s possible that we’ll have a contentious national convention, the likes of which we haven’t had since Ted Kennedy challenged Jimmy Carter in 1980.
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I hope it is a bloodbath.
ROMNEY IS THE VERY REASON I WOULD NEVER IN MY LIFE VOTE REPUBLICAN. A BILLIONAIRE SAYS "HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE VERY POOR". THAT'S OBSCENE! HE ALSO DENEGRATES THE GOVERNEMENTS OF EUROPE, WHERE HE KEEPS HIS MEGA MILLIONS IN SWISS ACCOUNTS. OF COURSHED DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE VERY POOR, HE EATS 3 SQUARES A DAY, HAS MULTIPLE HOMES AND JETS. GIVE ME A BREAK. HOW DARE HE MENTION THE PARY OF ABRAHAM LINCOLM, MAYBE THE GREATEST PRSIDENT EVER.
Your caps lock is on...
its a wonder you spelled paul right? you sure butchered the english language. romney is not a billionaire, that is obozos buddies soros and buffet. why the large caps?
I'm not a Romney fan..but the "very poor" was taken out of context..and YOU know it. (notice proper use of the CAP lock as well) Do a little research on your own Paul. Anyone is better than whats in the White house now. Please don't fall for the class warfare trick.
Does having things taken out of context by partisan spinners really fool you that much?
Agree with above comments. Romney said he didn't care about poor because of the safety net already being there. In context it is clear he is talking about what social policies need to be changed. It is so sad that critics of Romney tend to be people who cannot keep two sentences in their heads at the same time.
DEmonoize,Demonize the republicans so that the dismal obama administration record on high unemployment,high poverty, high bankruptcy high homeforeclosure and sick economy is not open for discussion.. Speaking of the poor obama is creating poverty people right now and growing. Poverty is record high
factuaLLY INACCURATE STATEMENTS - this is why Obama cannot win –and why the liberal CNN has NO credibility Romney has spoken of the poor may time –many many times - and his conversation was reduced to a line and taken totally out of context It is BS
Obama for his part – has DONE noting for the very poor - NOTHING
I love you right wingers. Republican policies under Republican Presidents destroyed the economy and left a huge mess that may very well have been far, far worse if McCain and (ack) Palin had won in 2008. Yet because President Obama won, and you don't like him, you get to turn around and point at the mess and say "this is all your fault!"
Short-sighted, dogmatic, selfish and greedy. This is your GOP. Never let the facts and truth interfere with your beliefs, okay?
Stephen,..
BOTH parties are to blame for this...PERIOD. But taxing the crap out of people isnt the way to fix it! Kissing up to the granola nazis is no way to get our economy moving. But you dont like THOSE facts...do you?
@remorse2 Every SINGLE THING that you point to was not a result of actions by the Obama administration. It is way past time that you and your ilk realize that 8 years under the Bush administration and HIS economic policies are the reason we are in such an economic quagmire! Anyone with any intelligence at all, or a memory longer than that of a GOLDFISH understands this! So, by all means, keep attacking Obama and the horrible Democrats for the state of the economy...it makes you look REALLY intelligent!
Paul, you demonstrate what is becoming a very big problem in this country. You lock on a few words, out of context, because the media tells you to, then you make all sorts of inaccurate assumptions from them. Use your own brain to read the whole quote, then see how different it is from just those few words. But, that takes thinking, which takes effort, and you have more important things to do, like texting to others what you had for breakfast today. Unfortunate even a dummy like you gets to vote and breed, both guaranteed to produce bad results. You are the poster boy for gthe 'dumbing down of America".
"the dismal obama administration record on high unemployment,high poverty, high bankruptcy high homeforeclosure and sick economy is not open for discussion."
Oil hit $140 a barrell in the summer of 2008. Wall street collapsed and was bailed out in the fall of 08'. The housing market collapsed in the fall of 08' along with the mortgage industry. The economy started to tank in the fall of 08'. The stock market began collapsing in the fall of 08'. Unemployment began skyrocketing in the fall of 08'
All of these things are the reason we are in the mess we are now. They all happened in the fall of 08'.
Obama was inaugurated in January of 2009. When somebody lights your house of fire, do you blame the arsonist or the fireman who shows up to put it out?
Paul -
If you are going to make an assertion, get the quotation right.
Romney never said that he doesn't care about the poor. To set you straight, he's what he said: "I'm not concerned about the very poor; we have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I'll fix it."
You played the cheapest of cheap smears – by taking words out of context. It's wrong when the GOP does this to Obama and wrong when Romney haters do it to him. He emphasized there is a safety net and that if it isn't working, he'd fix it.
It is true that Romney didn't literally say he doesn't care about the very poor, i.e. they have a safety net. However, the lack of sensitivity he displays by the way he words that statement coupled with his previous statements about liking to fire people who provide him with poor service and the one about the $10,000 bet are telling and paint a picture of someone who is remote, imperious and perhaps somewhat callous towards less fortunate people. It comes off like he just doesn't get it and it should be noted that most middle class, even upper-middle class Americans would probably be considered poor by Romney's standards anyway.
He strikes me as someone who's running for President for the prestige – to check off a box and maybe because his father ran for President and didn't succeed. None of which the US needs in a President during such challenging times.
The 'poor' deserve their lot in life.
Pitiful comment. Nothing to say but empty words
On the other hand Paul you are the reason the rest of the country will not vote Democrat, because you are to lazy to give your money away to the government to give to the mass who really do not give a damn about what they take. If you feel that way get off your ass and give your money to the poor and show them how to fish.
Paul. This is my personal opinion I suppose, but you are an idiot. YOU are the reason politics in the US have gone sideways. (...and the rest of the sound bite politicos.) I wish I could afford to pay you to move to Paraguay...
Wait a minute...What Romney said was taken out of text. He didn't say he didn't care about the poor..... He said he wasn't worried about the poor because there are safety nets in place for them. He wasn't worried about the Rich cause they can take care of themselves. He said he was "concentrating on the middle class because they are the ones that have been damaged by the economy and need the assistance." I am a democrat and even I can see a stretch of the truth and call it out. They will all self destruct soon. They don't need any help!
I would not vote for Romney either. He says he doesn't worry about the poor because they have safety nets in place and yet he promises to repeal Obamacare! The man who can't relate to ALL American doesn't deserve to be president.
Nic lvcookin wrote: "'.....Anyone is better than whats in the White house now.":::::::::::::::Why am I seeing so many people on the right completely give up on their convictions in order to simply "beat Obama"? Between evangelicals voting for Gingrich (who makes Bill Clinton look like a choirboy) and your, typical comment that says "ANYONE but Obama", I get the feeling that "winning the game" is more important than selecting a qualified leader to many on the right. This is a hell of a way to vote!
In a decade, Joe Biden gave less than half of 1% to charity. Over four years, the Obamas gave 1%. Romney gives 15% a year to charity. Romney also worked full time on a religious mission for two and a half years and volunteered 20 hours a week as a lay pastor for more than a decade. None of these other bozos have spent ten minutes voulnteering without a camera crew in tow. Romney has also created jobs, something none of the others have ever tried to do. There has never in my lifetime been a president who gave as much unpaid time or money to the poor and needy.
That's not what Romney said. Read the entire statement.
"I'm not concerned about the very poor," he said. "We have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I'll fix it. I'm not concerned about the very rich; they're doing just fine. I'm concerned about the very heart of America, the 90%, 95% of Americans right now who are struggling, and I'll continue to take that message across the nation."
Shut_up...it is "it's", not "its". It is known as a contraction. You also never put a comma preceeding the word "that", only "which".
Is it a new law that if you have done well in life that you can't possibly care about the poor? Look at all the charitable giving he has done. His track record just doesn't work with what you are saying at all. I am all for websites immediately banning all "all caps" posts regardless of content. Every time I post they say a moderator will have to approve it. does that mean that CNN approves all caps posts?
Romney is anti union and anti 2nd amendment – THIS FU**ER MUST NOT WIN! Go Gingrich....
The real issue, here, Paul, is that while Romney believes, or claims to believe, that the poor have safety nets, the Republicans are prepared to gut those safety nets. What will the poor and middle class do then is my concern.
He actually said he doesn't care about the very poor because there are programs in place to take care of them already.
Oh BULL ... as usual, you lying liberals have taken someone's words out of context, and twisted them to promote your sick political agenda. You creeps don't care who you smear, as long as it protects your corrupt messiah.
Paul, to start with it would help if you can write proper English.
This country needs a Mitt Romney.
Obama and his lackies have ruined it to the point where folks
cannnot read and write English... Wise up!!
He is a quarter billionaire-that ain't too far off.
You've been trolled.
Josh, what dude?
Oh, c'mon, didn't you hear him a few months ago; he's actually one of the unemployed. And let's hope it stays that way.
Romney is PURE LOVE! He is THE MAN!
the truth is Mitt represents the "more for us, less for everybody else" faction. People can bring up all the arguments against BO that they want, and many may be true. But the fact of the matter is, Barak inherited a disaster from eight years of looting on the part of the oil gurus from Texas–>2 wars put on America's charge card, a deeply divided country, and a supreme court ruling that has spewed more lies and money into our system than we know what to do with.
Face it, investing in infrastructure and education is NECESSARY. Ever other nation on earth, regardless of debt, is doubling down on these investments. Obama is a fool because he wants to invest in long term, opposed to sell off assets for some short term gains like those Bain Capital types?
Come on! Class warfare? no Common Sense. BO has done more in 3 years than any president since FDR.
Obscene to you, just matter of fact for Romney. With it being 2012 & all -I like many have been reading about the 2012 scarey stuff. GOP might want want to consider they seem to stand for the people we were warned about by the bible & other ancient scripts.. Sad but true- Where is the love??
.......... and you spell check is off.
Better go drink some more Kool-Aid and then check the Romney quote. You got it wrong. And you need some lessons in civility as well. Enjoy the Kool-Aid.
........ and your spell check is off.
Peter,,..
You are right...Bill Clinton looks like a choir boy..compared to Newt. My point is that killing the keystone pipeline..the policy's on drilling will simply KILL what little recovery is happening. Our president and his "fairness" comments arent going to get us anywhere....having said that...Thanks for not being mean about the comment though. This has been a great debate.
Hope everyone votes...: )
Yo, shut_up, you forgot the Koch brothers.... wink wink, nudge nudge...
Dear Mr. Paul Gerber,
Why do you spew when you don't understand what Mitt Romney was speaking about? Listen to understand and maybe the light bulb will go on.
Have a nice day...
I really don't like the author of the article, so I cannot get upset with those who respond. The author baits people and tries to sound neutral or rational, he is far from both. Read George Soros, he is more neutral and rational ... and he funds people like the author. Great news that Trump has stepped into the ring.
So, how did you feel about John, Robert and Ted Kennedy? Or more recently John Kerry? They either inherited or married into their money. At least Mit earned it.
hey bob jones, any relation to jim jones? That would explain your views.
Let me share this as an outsider looking in. I am Canadian. I was amazed that the American people re-elected George Bush for a second term. He drove your country into this mess. The war was more important to him and Cheney than the economy. He left you with this huge debt. The debt is not only the issue but the huge trade deficit as well. Your country is going broke because you had idiots in control that the majority voted for.
So you got rid of the republicans and put a democrat in place. As someone else wrote here, he is trying to extinguish the huge fire George Bush left him. And most of you are blaming Obama for the mess. Wake up neighbors in the south.
Look at the issues in the house and senate. Look at all the crap that is happening there. No president can turn this around unless he gets co-operation from both the house and senate. With the next elections, get rid of all politicians playing politics both in the senate and house and vote for winners. Vote for people that will put your economy first and leave politics behind. It takes effort on all levels of government.
By the way Romney isn't a BILLIONAIRE! He has maybe 200-250 million. Did you trash BILLIONAIRES and the rich when you talk about Steve Jobs and Bill Gates! I've never understood how the Occupy Movement loves Steve Jobs and had a moment of silence for him when he died, yet the guy was exactly the same as every other billionaire CE0 as far as the things he did with his money. But no Mitt Romney is the DEVIL because he didn't create the iphone or the ipad so his money is all the DEVIL mama says!!!!
Its the state of understanding that makes romney say what he says. I could almost guarantee (in I could ask romney the question) that if he was asked to describe what poor is or describe WHAT ITS LIKE to be poor....he wouldn't be able to understand, describe or relate to the question. It is not part of his world experience. He has never gone without necessities or worry about how to make a payment or how to clothe his children when the money just isn't there. He is so far from that experience, you might as well take an alien from another planet as ask the same question. I am almost sure everyone on this message thread has felt these things at one time or another in their lives. Considering we have nearly 1/6 of the US population considered to be in poverty (that's another word for poor in case romney is reading this), how can he say there is a safety net. Republicans want to cut that safety net. Then there is the people above poverty that are struggling...maybe not considered poor, but its a struggle to get by. That makes 50-60 percent of this country. Most of the joblessness was a direct result of the collapse due to conservative policies and deregulation. Obama came in to a crappy position and has made it better. There were 750,000 people losing their jobs a month when he came in to office. I think we are moving in the right direction...we need continuity to let it work. just doesn't make sense to put a business man into the White House after the disaster that occurred from the last business man in the White House. I say romney can't be trusted on so many levels. Obama deserves another 4 years to finish the job. I know there are those of you out there that are going to argue otherwise, but hey, that's what a democracy is all about. So, wallow in your hatred. Obama has done nothing but fix the mess he inherited. It took 8 years to get into this mess, its going to take just as long to get out of it.
Very well written and thought out. You are absolutely correct. Should Romney get the nomination and win, banks would literally take over America, and the corporate layoffs would spin most of America on its head. Romney hasn't offered one single idea for job development. None of the Republicans have except Paul, and he has the same chance as one of us does winning the Megamillions Lottery.
"conservative policies and deregulation" – Oh you mean like the affordable housing act ?
Greeny Meany: Actually, which one are you referring to...1990 from the first Bush or the 2007 from the second Bush. While the goals of the affordable housing act are good (home ownership), the deregulation of the lending industry as well as the instruments they developed and repackaged, pretty much push the average owner at risk. we know how that turned out...right? The banks ended up getting a bailout and the average citizen holding that bag. Now they make more money using the bailout money when they should be lending it out to the people who bailed them out. Granted, Clinton had a hand in this mess too, but it's the goal of republican ideology is free, unabated, enterprise. Kind off like letting the wolf guard the hen house. Regulations are in place to prevent bad behavior. We know greed will likely lead to bad behavior and unethical behavior. We now know how that turned out too. What ever happen to doing the right thing and still make a profit?
With Romney in the White House, the social gap will widen and the class war escalate. Bush II comes from the same background as Romney and did little to address the grievances of the weak and poor.
Oh yes a bloodbath would be wonderful. "...if a candidate wins pluralities of delegates in five states ... then you name gets placed on the ballot." One for Ginrich, two for Romney.
This guy doesn't know how to care for a dog, nevermind the poor, middle class or who ever. Out of touch with the real world plastic blow dryed guy on top of the wedding cake. Say what you want about President Obama.....but there have been no planes into US buildings on his watch and he's the best war time president since FDR and he will continue to be.
dude, if your basing your vote for a candidate off of their love for an animal then you need to go to your local zoo and tell them you'll vote for them! Otherwise shut up! The guy fixed the Olympics from what was the potential first time in Olympic's history that they were considering shutting it down! But no you want to ramble about how he strapped his dog on the roof of a car once in a crate! Here's another question that never gets asked. How is that any different from millions of people that put there dogs in crates in the back of their truck beds???? It's the same freaking thing!!!!
@Mike: Dude look up "their" and "you're". As far as a dog in a crate in the bed of a truck or tied up in the bed of a truck for a short trip. No problem. A dog strapped to the roof, taken on the highway, for a family vacation (ie a long trip). It's outrageous. As for Romney's gaffes, I believe them to be like Freudian slips. It's really what he means and then as he continues to talk he cleans it up. It is clear to me that he is a liar and has little concern for others. His charitable giving is a tax strategy.
No, it's a long distance race for them to Washington, but they might not get into the Whte House.
Fareed Zakaria is a liberal spin doctor for DNC & CNN. Why in the heck would I care WHAT he says, it's tempered with too much billshirt.
Dave, that's simply not true. As a conservative from a town of 1000, I greatly respect Zakaria. He is also well credentialed in the IR field– although for some reason we republicans seem to scorn people with his credentials. Is he liberal? Sure–but a mouthpiece for the Democratic party is simply wrong. I HATE how republicans are so quick to label people as RINOS and liberal mouthpieces when they simply don't agree with them.
Now I maybe Canadian but I pay attention to US politics more than my own country. People need to look at the kind of person Ron Paul is by looking at what he has been saying the past 2-3 decades. He has been exposing and doing the US the greatest favor by stirring the US away from being a war driven country which is what it is now. That is why the US is hated so much globally and half the world would agree. He has been a physician most of his life and is out to save lives not take em.
Like Ronald Reagan said, "If it takes a blood bath, let's get it over with." I love watching the fractured party divide itself even further. Maybe this will force John Boehner to grow a pair and pull the lunatic fringe GOP'ers off his party's leg. Or he can just cry. Bets anyone?
John Boehner isn't going to do anything that might disturb his plush existence.
So, he will just cry.
Absolutely! Just get drunk & cry.....
If John Boehner does anything, he'll have to become either Minority Leader or...be forced to step down for being outvoted by another candidate for leadership. He's probably one of the many reasons for the divisiveness in the House. Reason number two? That one is named "Nancy Pelosi."
Andwhat Bozo, joint the Democruts of Chicago with three balls and take the country beyond repair???????
Once more in English, please.
You are obviously too stupid to put together a coherent sentence. Typical bagger.
Oh boye, I hate being the forum or blog police today.
Jeeeee your English STINKS for real. Did you even finish 1st Grade or you missed Pres. Obama's Yellow school bus for your neighborhood passed you by? You're making Pres. Obama's extremely toooooo hard for sure. America can't move forward in this very 21st. Century with uneducated clowns like ya? Jeeeeee, you being a drag for the progress of every American! God help us! America can’t be spinning his wheels whilst waiting for you to catch up.
This is what Prez. Obama have been preaching for years.
Education! Education! Education! Education! Education! Education!
Ouch!!! Teabagger got smacked hard!!! Three times!!!
That's what we need on this forum, more bulldog Democrats who aren't afraid to sink their rhetorical teeth into the soft underbelly of the Teabagger's weak arguments, poor spelling, worse grammar, & low IQs. Not to mention their frothing-at-the-mouth hatred of anything to the left of The John Birch Society. It's time to just look at them, point, and laugh when they do it, because they don't understand anything other than pure ridicule. Keep it up!!!
I swear to god if I ever hear someone refer to the Democratic Party as the Democrat Party in my presence, I'm going to pick them up by their lapels and shake them until the stuffing comes out. I am so sick of that crap! Did anyone else besides me catch Romney doing that yesterday on TV? Total BS!!!!!!! And we have Newt to thank for it since he pioneered the use of childish name-calling. I hope we all have a chance to vote against him this November as payback for the Clinton years. Send him and his helmet-headed Stepford wife slinking back to The Village with their tails between their legs where they join all the other failed candidates for president.
You can bet your bottom $ on that for sure.
The world just can't wait to see these delusional, robotic puppeteer clowns of grown imbecilic idiots on full display and in living color.
Like their academic records indicates their IQ's collectively or algebraic Ʃ does not even equal the IQ of a midget pig in GWB's pig farm. Let the show begin with their usual robotic talking points. These clowns have NO brains of their own. It will be a sight to see for sure! The world just can’t wait to be entertained by these human clowns.
That is true, but the scary part is that one of them may become leader of the free world!
Actually among the 4 republican and 1 democrat you have two doctors (one medical Dr. Paul, one Phd Gingrich), two harvard law grads (Obama and Romney), and even Santorum has an MBA and law degree with honors. The problem isn't that these folks are dumb but the push for discourse by "sound bites" leads to very poor policy debate on all sides.
You sir have the IQ of an Obama, That starts with zero and goes negative. EMc2= CHE nuts.
You liberals mock tea party folks and non-union tax payers, but you don't seem to have any money spending their tax money.
I'll bet a C note that you suck. I win.
I dropped a C-note on your Mom last night and she sucked real good.
I'm sooo sorry again for being rude. My prescription for the mood stabilizers will be ready soon. Again, sincerest apologies. Peace on earth!!
The lunatic fringe does need to be pulled off of the Republican Party. This lunatic fringe – Rousas Rushdoony's Christian Reconstructionism/Dominionism – began growing in the 70s – first taking over the Southern Baptist Convention. It has grown exponentially since then. It is part and parcel of a big part of the Council for National Policy, and it has a worldwide television audience. Neocons exploit it. The only reason the lunatic fringe can exist is that Christian Reconstructionists like Pat Robertson, Grover Norquist, and Howard Phillips have tricked so many people inside the movement and outside the movement into believing that Christianity and capitalism are one and the same. They are not. Christianity is not an economic system. God is God and capitalism is capitalism. One man alone cannot pull the lunatic fringe off of the Republican Party. Republican voters must work together to cleanse their party. Whether or not it shows up on television, Speaker Boehner, who has been riding this particular bucking bronco for over a year, is not lacking in courage.
Ron Paul finally gets some billionaire love. Peter Thiel, Paypal Founder and Facebook Investor drops $900K on his SuperPac
http://www.billionairechronicles.net/ron-paul-billionaire-supporter
paypal founder is a lawyer? paypal stole the lawyers idea and paid him for the name and idea paypal. this squirrel you mentioned didnt found, find, invent paypal????????????????????
If you can't speak English coherently you shouldn't be trying to debate about US presidential candidates.
It's going to be a circus. There will be elephants and plenty of clowns.
HELL YEAH it's gonna be a circus! I'm buying a case and inviting some friends over to watch this lead balloon try and fly
.....As the clown car picks up speed, racing furiously towards the brick wall,
you can hear the insane cackle from the drivers seat,
FULL SPEED AHEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes and circle around those jacka**es call Democruts. You know the Chicago types?????
Please tell us what a "chicago type is"
It will be a MASS assembly of circus delusional clowns with low IQ's in silly customs on full display.
Stay home and enjoy for FREE!
Obama 2012 you bet!
Che, you've made a lot of comments about poor IQ of GOP candidates, and from what I can see, you haven't even put together a sentence with proper English. Don't just assume because Bush was brain-dead retarded that everyone in the GOP is even remotely like him. Obama is more like GWB than Ron Paul is.
Don't forget about the Democrat convention, when they throw in a chimp.
Are you looking yourself in the mirror, chimppo?
Smile chimppo and do you like what you see?
Hey CHE, we do not even have to look in a mirror to see you, just our crack.
Gingrich knows the political map and knows he can get enough delegates to push a convention challenge. It is amazing to watch as four people destroy the Republican base from state to state. Obama doesn't even have to campaign at this point, the 4 horsemen are successfully assuring there will not be a Republican president, and laying the foundation for the House to also go back to Democrat hands. All because of extreme wealth using the SuperPACs like chess pieces, the extreme ego of 4 candidates, and the extreme actions of the Tea Party folks who drove the Republican party off a cliff.
I predict that Ron Paul is going to also fight on to the convention then split off and run as an Independent. He will, like Perot, split the Republican vote and Obama wins in a landslide.
1/2 right, he might go all the way to the convention, but he has made clear he is NOT going Independent, how many times does he have to repeat himself even to his supporters?
Ron Paul is a politician, when they say they will or they won't, it only means they haven't yet decided.
Ron Paul won't run as an independent because his son is still a republican senator who needs the good will of the party to help finance his re-election campaign in 4 years. Ron knows he has no chance of winning as an independent, and he won't screw up his dynastic chances.
Not true. He has never categorically ruled out running as an independent. All he has said is that he is not thinking about it. Even pols who say, categorically, that they are not going to run often end up doing so. You couldn't take him at his word even if he had given you his word... and he hasen't.
Only problem is that most of the people voting for Ron Paul wouldn't vote for any other Republican in the first place. Ron Paul steals more votes from Obama then any Republican.
Then that means that when Paul doesn't get the nomination and doesn't run independent (as he's said he won't), all those Paul voters will vote for Obama. Okay by me.
The libertarian block is all on the right and in bed with the republicans. Obama won't lose any votes if Paul runs.
I predict Ron Paul is going to run out of money.
I remember in 2008 (when the Hillary and Barrack were going at it) and Rush Limbaugh had Repubs switch party affiliation so that they could vote for Hillary to drag it on longer. I would be funny if that now happened the other way.
Its already happened the other way, several times. Rush learned the tactic from the Dems.
Rush learned everything he knows from worms, pigs, and bottom-feeding fish.
Ha Ha Rush learned it from Newt.... ha ha... ha ha
This tactic was first used by democrats.
In Florida democrats also created a "Tea Party" and had democrats run in it to siphon off unsuspecting conservative voters.
All the so called Tea Party candidates had been democrats. How's that for fair play?
"I predict that Ron Paul is going to also fight on to the convention then split off and run as an Independent. He will, like Perot, split the Republican vote and Obama wins in a landslide."
Paul won't just be taking Republican voters, he'll also be taking independents that Obama needs. Paul, unlike Perot, actually speaks to people who vote for both parties.
I can't see an independent who would consider voting for Ron Paul and racist Tea baggers ever voting for a moderate black man.
Good show. Anyone you don't agree with, just call them racists. You are following the talking points exactly!
Front row tickets to the freak show now available. This is going to be a mess, they're ego's are going to drag it out so long as there is stage time to grab. And a weakened candidate then has a few measly months to get his ground game in place for November.
Newt must know he can't win this but is basking in the limelight for as long as he can.
The only reason Newt is running is because he see's himself as a gift to the world. The man is way to narsacistic. Even his own party thinks he sucks the life out of the air around them to blow up his giant ego baloon. He is nothing but a ruthless womanizer that will demolish anything in his path to "fame"! Blowing to big he is going to POP!
He seems to even outdo Donald Trump in the big ego category, impossible as it may seem.
If Newt continues to use phrases like "maniacal liar" when talking about his own Party's frontrunner, it will make for a very interesting election AFTER a very interesting convention...
Romney is a Closet Democrat and the GOP Leadership is starting to see it. Safety net for the Poor, Middle Class, and Elderly. Wow, that is Liberal Democrat Talk. How can he repeal Obama-Care without having the voters of Massachusetts asking "What was Romney-Care?
There are no Republicans in Massachusetts. Never has been. He couldn't run as a Democrat since that ticket is already defined so if he wins the Republican convention we will have a moderate Democrat running against a Liberal Democrat and we'll be screwed no matter who wins.
If you think Romney is a liberal, then you must be right of Attila The Hun! Also, "there are no Republicans is Massachusetts". What? Scott Brown? Oh wait an minute, I bet you think he's "a lib", too. Go pick up The Boston Herald if you think there are no Republicans in Massachusetts. I can't believe you are saying this with a straight face.
"Ron Paul finally gets some billionaire love."
People can donate all they want but Ron Paul isn't presidential material. He's hasn't even placed in the top three spots in any of the initial primaries for far and I doubt he will unless Gingrich or Santorum drop out. So, the "Ron Paul for President" pipe dream is just that, so much smoke.
Paul's best chance is to switch to the Independent ticket and try and take the Tea Party Republicans with him. Romney will beat Gingrich and Santorum for the GOP party nomination but lose to Obama in the Presidential race, which I expect Obama to win anyway.
Paul has said several times that he won't run as an Independent, and unlike most politicians (Obama included), he actually has something of a record of keeping such promises. I think a much more likely scenario is that Ron Paul will be the VP pick for whoever wins the primaries. He'll bring in a lot of independent voters, which could easily decide the victory against Obama.
In the R Party, the establishment always has it's way. So, Romney will be the candidate, but there is no way Paul or Gingrich would be the VP pick. Santorum, maybe, because he has lately made noises about smoothing ruffled feathers within the party, which the establishment likes. He could bring in Catholics, teabaggers, and religious lunatics. On the other hand, nobody is more likely than Marco Rubio, with his Hispanic potential.
You honestly believe if Paul becomes President he will be able to keep all his promises?
You've just proven most, if not all, Paul supporters are delusional.
congratulations .......someone finally mentioned Ron Paul.....unbelievable.
GOP = A Group of Plutocrats with the agenda to control women's reproduction, to gut the safety nets that protect the most vulnerable in America, and to protect the most important people in America – corporations!
Greedy
Obstructionistic
Prevaricators
Nicely done Abby...
I think you are ready to go on MSN...(as they say on star wars) Let go of your HATE! LOL
Nothing funnier..than a angry liberal. ; )
except a rabid right-winger
Oh, I think an angry Tea-partier is much more entertaining.
Nick,
But that is the GOP agenda. it is what it is. Denial will not make it go away. If if they really do not mean it, then they should stop trying to pass legistlation. And also stop saying that they are going to do it. Accountabiliity should start when they open their mouths. That is the problem with lies and lack of leadership.
Nothing funnier..than a angry republican....
Fixed that for ya, free of charge.
Sure, spin the angry label on your ooponent to feel superioir. Her tone was intelligent, and calm. If anyone is angry, it's your pretending laughing to hide raging feelings. Too much bad news for you lately ?
Welcome to the real world; right-wing wing-nut robot!
Since you're mentally challenged like your GOP imbecilic irks; you're trying too hard to be silly and stupid.
Have a brain of your own for once! Will ya? Heck what's cookin in your nic?
Get a life Abby.!
The GOP circus goes on. It's great to watch them eating their own. I truly believe, and I mean REALLY REALLY BELIEVE, that Newt is a paranoid schizophrenic megalomaniac.
ya know jam ....you are probably right about that .......but that being said, he would still be better than obummer.
Ummmm. I guess that says it all. Anybody but Obama includes paranoid-schizophrenic Megalomaniacs (Let's add womanizer and house reject to the list). THIS is what I've been sensing for a long time now.... Why can't the Republican party begin to promote decent honorable men and women to positions of power and prominence? Why can't I have a choice in November? Why are "Moderation" and "Compromise" dirty words? Hmmm? Anyone?
Do you "hear" yourself? Please get back on your meds.
well sorry get used to obama for another 4 years cause its going to happen. the GOP candidatare are nothing but a bunch of pandering pathetic second rate blowhards
*** obummer.
Fifth graders use words like this.
Get your finger out of your nose,spit out the cheetos and get some sunshine.
You will feel better.
Teabag dummy, FYI: a Sentence begins with a Capital letter.
Since you're still in 1st grade; why don't you head to your little play room? Will ya?
Adults are talking!
The only reason we didn't see this for the Dems last time was because the media was divided between the two canidates. I do recall it even got ugly then. Those who think there should be a flat out winner after only a few primaries have no business even making comments or being involved in the political process. Sit down and shut up. Or as your BFF Barack said. "sit in the back of the bus !"
These...candidates...are truly frightening. Not one of them seems to have a clue as to what people want or need. Gingrich seems to think he's running for Emperor. How does Romney even speak with BOTH feet in his mouth? Ron Paul and Rick Santorum are just "spear-holders" in this sad, silly and ultimately scary exhibition of fear and loathing.
If Hunter Thompson would have known that this was going to happen, he would never have bumped himself off. This election cycle desperately needs him.
It's a beautiful demonstration of what a ridiculous political system that has evolved from the noble aspirations of our forefathers. Political parties are the bane of our nation..
What forefathers? Those RACIST forefathers for american whites?
No one more racists than you !
I find it incredibly ironic that the class warfare has gone this far. The richest people in this country are clear liberals (Gates, Buffet, Winfrey, Jobs, Hollywood as a whole). I mean its very effective how the Democrats have labeled the Republicans as the billionaires, however when i sit down and start listing the actual billionaires in the country, only the Koch brothers appear on my list to be republicans. Can any liberal give me a reason why that is? Its staggering how misled the american people are by the democratic liberal machine.
The examples you've given are solely from the technology and entertainment industries.
How about the oil barons and just about every board member and executive officer of every major corporation in the country outside of those two industries?
Big money corporations and special interests have their claws dug deep into both parties.
I love this whole "very poor" was taken out of context. It really wasn't. He said he doesn't care about them because his focus is on the middle class. Yet when talking about the middle class then he gets into stupid sh– like "corporations are people," another comment idiots said was taken out of context without EVER ONCE providing that context.
So two things – one if you say something is out of context, don't just end it there. Make sure you explain actually what was meant, like, "but the very poor have safety nets duh and he cares about the middle class, and he defines the middle class as 90-95% of America". Also don't act so offended, no one has had their words taken more out of context than Barack Obama ("spread the wealth" omg marxist!) so cool yourselves. You're own steaming bias just spills out.
Also, Ron Paul as a VP to Gingrich? CAN'T IMAGINE THAT, if he did that that means Paul is a liar just looking for power and not real influence. Same kinda goes for Romney. The reason people like him is he doesn't seem to pander, and I can't imagine he'd actually do anything as a VP to the likes of either Gingrich or Romney, and thus he would probably turn it down. It's true, he could steal away some votes from Obama, but as a whole the Republicans are a very weak field and about 75% of the major complaints about Obama are based on lies. 25% are pretty accurate, Obama is not infallible here.
Great post if you want to have a debate have a debate on policies (after watching all the GOP debates seems Mitt the Ripper's are similar to PRESIDENT Obama's). By the time the convention rolls around he would have changed his position yet again. It's a sad state of affiars when Newt the Liar calls you a liar
cream rises to the top. the rest is just chum
*** Its staggering how misled the american people are by the REPUBLICAN machine.
There is your answer.
If you're posting on CNN comments, you've already lost the class war. The above people you mention are doing great things, and encourage others to do the same and have NEVER openly stated that their income tax is too high, nor have the connections to physically steer policy like the Koch's. George Clooney didn't work with the Wisconsin gov to union bust. Look at Buffet's philanthropy, Oprah's building of schools, the Gates foundation etc. What has Mitt built other than a marina in the Caymans?
Is Mitt living in America or his own created wealthy America. He says 90-95% are in the middle class when the poverty rate in America is more than 15%. And in reality, with this economy where people are dropping out from ever shrinking middle income range, it could be way more than that. He even have no idea who are called poor or how many are there. In this economy, a president must worry about poverty because more and more people getting into that category than getting out of that category. He is completely out of touch with what is happening in this country.
I don't have a problem with what you said, but realize this "these hollywood billionaires do not object to paying more taxes" it's really simple. You have the GOP screaming about taxes when the people who are going to have to pay, for the most part, don't mind paying.
And from what i can tell, no actual liberal billionaire do gooder has given any substantial amount of their wealth to anyone that is poor. Instead they give it to liberal organizations that, from all i can tell, do not help anyone who actually needs it. Liberals in this country should feel ashamed about what they are doing creating a class warfare. It is not only insulting to those of us with a brain, but incredibly offensive. how has Obama helped the poor, more cheese? free MRI's? How do those help the condition of the poor? How do those things help people break out of poverty? Its all lip service.
you sir are an idiot it always amazes me how ass backward people in this country are
learn to spell before calling someone an idiot.
Are you utterly lacking in brain cells????? Bill and Melinda Gates foundation... HEARD of it??? How about you plonk you lazy, fat ass down at your keyboard and oh, I don't know..... GOOGLE something???
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Pages/home.aspx
Are you so moronic, so blinded by your fascist hatred of all that is liberal, that you can't even be bothered to research some FACT???? Seriously, you might be the stupidest thing on this planet.
Pritch wrote: "And from what i can tell, no actual liberal billionaire do gooder has given any substantial amount of their wealth to anyone that is poor."::::::::::Source, please, of such a foolish blanket statement.
It's not the government's job to break them out of poverty. The government can supply a means to help them survive and provide opportunities, but like everyone else, improving their station in life is their own responsibility.
After eight devastating years of Republican rule under Bush, you would think that anybody that needs to work for a living would be scared to death to see another Republican administration in this century. I hope the whole Republican nomination process, and their goulish convention, crumbles into chaos and their party dies a fitting and well deserved death.
I was never scared of losing my job until Obama came along.
Always go back to "blame bush". The standard argument. Note to Kimn8r it is 3 years later and things have not got better, they have got worse. This is the worst recovery from a deep recession ever. 36 months in, the economy should be knocking the cover off the ball with 6-8% read GDP growth. The CBO, which is non-partisan, just delivered their forecast to Congress today, did you see it? They are forecasting 1% GDP growth next year and unemployment going back to 9%. The numbers don't lie – this President's policies have clearly failed!
The Chinese probably think this is a waste of time and money.
Fareed is right. It sounds like great entertainment kind of on the same level as reality TV or professional wrestling. What a bunch of clowns!
This poor comment story is factuaLLY INACCURATE – this is why Obama cannot win –and why the liberal CNN has NO credibility - Romney has spoken of the poor many times –many many times – he even discussed it in detail with CNN before this comment ( guess they forgot – ha ha ha ) and his conversation yesterday was reduced to a single line and taken totally out of context It is BS
Obama for his part – has DONE noting for the very poor – NOTHING
George W loved the poor so much that he created a lot more of them.
Best one all day!!! LOL!!!
I thought you said he was the great food stamp prez. lay off the dope and make up your mind!
then watch fox news i'm sure nothing they ever say is wrong or biased in any wat
Bush for his part – has DONE noting for the very poor – NOTHING
Fixed.
You can ignore reality all you want. You probably still believe OBL is hiding somewhere!
Fareed, as an Obama zealot and member of the biased lame stream media, you are NOT invited to Tampa We do not need your brand of hypocricy and inaccurate biased reporting
*** biased lame stream media......
HELLO, that you Sarah ?
Unlike Foxnews which is always right on target - NOT!
Who the hell wants to go to Tampa, especially for a clown coronation, YUK!
Hello!
Is that you Sarah Palin?
I can see ya from my toilet window.
How you beeeeee?
Holla!
Mitt Romney saying that he's not concerned about the poor because here's a safety net is absurd and totally and downright outrageous to say the least. To make sauch a misguided and reckless comment is one thing but to make these comments in the middle of an economic crisis is another thing when millions of Americans are losing their jobs, their homes and life savings. And if the middle class is struggling so badly as a result of this crisis and sinking deeper and deeper, then where the hell is the poor heading to? Perhaps even lower?
And to say "If" the safety net needs fixing he would fix it if elected President is simply implying that there is no need to do anything for the very poor right now because ther'e nothing to be fixed. Mitt Romney you're as un-American as you could ever be and shame on you for despising and looking down on the poor.
Furthermore Mitt Romney, you don't know diddly squat when it comes to fixing and improving the American economy and creating jobs for the simple reason that you supported and continue to support the very same ineffective, misguided and failed economic policies that led to our economic downfall in the first place. Mitt Romney, I have news for you! You will never be POTUS even if you tried to buy your way to the White House!
Clowns are entertaining.
Its even better when its colossus of comic delusional clowns of grown imbecilic idiots.
Well im one of those as a bunch of you call a racist tea partier conservative and i got to say ive seen you people be more racist then anything.i am from a state whos senator was a grand dragon in the kkk and he commanded the black vote and he was a dem robert c byrd yea im sure he wanted black people to advance in life.....look in the mirror ya idiots
You do know that most Dixiecrats (southern Democrats) who were against desegregation in the 50s switched to the Republican Party in the 60s after the civil rights act was passed (Strom Thurmond, etc). Byrd was an exception.
If I was in charge, and let me assure you, I *AM* going to be a delicate, I wouldn't allow you in the door, I wouldn't let you anywhere new the convention. You are one of the more dreadful shills for that gasbag occupying the White House and your too obvious partisanship has rendered you a pathetic joke. CNN should fire this jerk.
You're going to be a delicate... what? Flower?
goodone lol. I guess the first test of GOP intelligence should be spelling, then coloring
Hilarious, but still, things are looking up – at least Observer didn't write "hippocrit" which usually screams Tea Bagger. Every time I hear from one of them I feel like the whole country is at risk of disappearing into a giant vortex of ignorance......never to be heard from again. Certainly it will......if they have their way.
How delicate you gonna be ?
Interesting article about romney getting advantages on his taxes. No wonder this 1% er doesn't want to release his tax returns.
http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2012/01/31/romneys-gift-from-congress/
I agree it will be interesting, but the establishment wants Romney – bad. Thus, if Gingrich doesn't win outright on the first ballot, I don't see how the convention can result in anything but Romney. Certainly hoping for a bloodbath at the convention, but even with Newt's politics of destruction, I don't see it happening.
No one individual, Republican or Democrat, can turn this nation around!! Until we all as Americans, and not as "cliques", turn back to God and obey 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
America today has become the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. And if we ALL don't REPENT and look to God, this nation will fall!! These are the last and evil days!! PEOPLE GET READY!!
If you want to live in a theocracy, you should move to Iran. We don't need or want your religion forced on us.
How nice you have a computer in your cave.
It's about time to have some excitement at the convention ... used to be that way. By the way, why was Santorum not mentioned in the article?
GOP is split despite what Mitt and others trying say. The tea party which becomes a grass root movement for GOP is going to make a mess with this GOP primary contests. A divided party can not win. Tea party also put extremist in to the congress and drove down the ratings of the congress to a lowest point. Tea beggars experiment with America is failing. Extremism is not the recipe to get this country back. But common sense is. And that is what Tea Party lacks. Like Fareed, I am also having fun watching these GOP clowns in circus and it will be a blast in the convention with fireworks going everywhere
Can't wait to see it and can't wait to see how Tea beggars cause the GOP loose this november.
It makes no difference how much the "very poor" line was taken out of context. What is irrefutable is that Romney is incredibly inauthentic, from the tip of his toes to the top of his well-coiffed head. He's probably a pretty damned good problem solver, yet he can't hide how absolutely plastic and phony he looks, sounds and is. And the right wing screamed about Gore being a flip-flopper. Romney is the flip-flopping gold medalist. His pandering is nauseating.
And his phony image isn't exactly enhanced by wearing Gap skinny jeans......
Like the GOP/teabag House of Representatives, Mitt Romney is also running on the premise that he can improve the economy and create millions of American jobs overnight. Well, my first thought is where are the jobs the GOP/teabag House promised the American people? Is it that hard to create one single American job? I actuall create jobs on my own by having kids in the neighborhood cut my lawn.
Secondly, when Mitt Romnet travels around this country telling Americans he can do a better job than this administration in handling the economy, I just have to laugh till it hurts. Hahahahahah! Uhhhh! Mitt Romney said he can fix the economy if elected POTUS! Well, just imagine Mitt Romney looking you straight in the eyes and telling you that he can do what a collective team of financial experts in America and Europe couldn't do and that is fix this global economic crisis overnight! Mitt Romney is either drinking or smoking something really really bad. Prior to passage of this administration's economic stimulus package in 2009, the Obama administration had met with financial experts from around the country and the general consensus was that in order to stabilize and jumpstart the American economy and prevent it from slipping into a catastrophic depression and subsequently help struggling Americans get back on their feet, passage of the economic recovery bill was necessary. But unfortunately the GOP who Mitt Romney supports have referred to the stimulus package as wasteful spending while accusing the Obama administration of inflating the national deficit. What a shame!
However, these financial experts didn't say that this crisis would end overnight and that 10 million Americans were going to get re-hired the next day. No, what they said was that the economy would improve gradually and jobs will eventually resurface and economic growth will materialize as investors and manufacturers re-gain confidence in the economy. But what Mitt Romney is trying to tell the American people is that he has a magic wan that can fix this global economic crisis and return 14 million Americans back to work tomorrow. And what is even more outrageous about Mitt Romney's position here is that if elected, he intends to try to improve the economy with the very same ineffective, flawed and misguided economic policies that led to our economic downfall in the first place. Mitt Romnet shame on you!
I do not understand WHY they have not & HOW they have not (meaning all the news anchors, their team, the countless analysts, etc.) figured out that except for Nasty Newt, everyone else including Donald Trumpoholic (He is drunk on his own ego) is running for Vice-President.
Trumpoholic, knows he will never be a candidate for President, but should he be chosen as the running mate for either Romney or whoever, that puts him in position to possibly be President one day & without argument the 2nd most important elected office in America.
Rick Santorum has been running for the Vice-Presidency along with many of those who have fallen by the wayside. Obviously, Ron Paul will be better off joining Nasty Newt Gangrenerich (He is a major infection) as a candidate for President of the moon.
Our news media & the people behind them are even more stupid than many of the voters in this country.
CNN, please stop giving this racist, pro-Taliban, anti-American voice box a platform.
Fareed, is an intelligent, informed, educated man. He is CNNs greatest asset. It is obvious you have never watched his show. He is an ultimate professional and I have never heard him promote any one party. He gives every guest an opportunity to respond to intelligent questions and I recommend tuning in. Stop the blind hatred.
I know it might hurt a little but use the left hemisphere of your brain for a moment.
1) I have no idea where you get the idea that Fareed is racist. I've never seen or heard him utter a disparaging remark about any race at all. Considering that his show is call Global Public Square (GPS), it's safe to say that he espouses an inclusive sentiment rather than exclusive.
2) Ethnically, Fareed is Indian, and he is most certainly not pro-Taliban, as they don't mix with Indian/Hindu culture and have done considerable harm to that country through their terrorist proxies.
3) Fareed is a naturalized American citizen exercising his right to freedom of speech to state an opinion. I can't think of anything more profoundly American than that one act.
"However, these financial experts didn't say that this crisis would end overnight and that 10 million Americans were going to get re-hired the next day. No, what they said was that the economy would improve gradually and jobs will eventually resurface and economic growth will materialize as investors and manufacturers re-gain confidence in the economy."
No son, this is not the point. The contention that most of us have with the Obama administration noe is the fact that HE is ignoring the national debt which is now about 105 or 110% of GDP. The issue here is HOW he intends to stimulate the economy. You are NOT going to stimulate the economy by taxing the so called rich who are now virtually the only ones participating in the economy, consuming, spending, investing. Spending not revenue is the problem a problem which is so obvious given the fact that the country is running trillion dollar deficits each year. People aren't investing in the US economy because of the national debt and because they know that there wil be a reckoning day soon regarding that debt which would harm any investment they make. This is why Standards and Poors down graded the US credit rating which was once at AAA. They cited the debt as the reason for the downgrade.
The Obama administration needs to shut down entire government departments so that it can start to realise budgetary surpluses in order to start servicing some debt. Barrack who is a true believer in the social spending cause however refuses to do so. His answer is continue to raise the debt ceiling or try to find revenues where none can be found. The problem with Obama is that he won't do whats needed hence he's just gotta go.
Gutting government agencies (and putting people out of work) alone is not going to solve the debt issue. While I agree that the government needs to reign in spending (ending the war in Afghanistan will help this considerably), that will only delay the inevitable.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for lower taxes as a general rule. However the Bush-era tax cuts bit a little too deeply into the federal revenues and didn't couple that decrease in income with a matching decrease in spending. That trend has continued since.
There's no magic bullet to solve the problem. It's going to take a revamping of federal spending, an increase in tax revenue, and some drastic changes to the tax code to close loopholes.
Has it ever occured to anyone to the right, left or in the middle that for three plus years and with the exception of liberals, no one to the right including the rightwing mainstram media has once bothered to mention what President Obama has inherited? Its sort of like pretending he inherited a clean slate with a thriving and economically stable and booming America. What a disgrace and a modern day travesty!
The mainstream press has all but completely given up any pretense of fairness or equinimity.
To cite one example, the press couldn't wait to nail Herman Cain (who deserved scorn). At the same time, John Edwards marital cheating and the child of wedlocked were known months before the story broke.
Not surprisingly, it took a dingy tabloid to break the story.
You don't think that if John Edwards' cheating and love-child were widely known about months before we heard about it in the news that Fox wouldn't have stood up and waved it about like a pair of dirty knickers? Please, they'd have jumped all over such a story.
Obama has raised the national debt 3 times more than George Bush, Get a clue Obama owns this disaster after 3.5 years. Liberals keep making excuses when they need to address the debt.
By "raised the national debt" I assume you mean "finally put the Iraq and Afghanistan wars on the books?"
We won't even get into having to spend a bunch of government money to keep the US economy from completely collapsing under the weight of 8 years of Bush policies.
Oh wait, that would interfere with your sound bite. My bad.
flyinggram: The Cain story was broken by Politico, a political news service run by GOP insider Fred Ryan, who is on the board of the Reagan Library. This will give you a clue as to who was REALLY afraid of a Cain nomination.
I understand that some people have a limited memory span. you are spot on but no matter what you say or do a blind will never look at you eye to eye, not to belittle the blind, but that what is happening. when I read the blogs and comment, it is the right wing that has a lot to say and it makes me wonder. The thief always seems to say a lot inorder to distract other. I am not a Liberal, a democrat nor a conservative, a republican. It baffles me that people who thinks they know so well, thinks the only litmus test for leadership is electablity. I am not worried because in 08, McCain was the only electable person, the polls also said so untill Country first showed his true color, Believe in America will but when all is said and done, its the voters who needs to own up. if 2010 has taught us nothing, then I am about to lose hope.
Fareed spell check does not edit your writing errors.
Are there no CNN authors that are Republican? Any that do not hate conservatives like Gingrich? Any that can contain their biased zeal when reporting events for the loyal opposition? Please step forward and show no fear.
Go to Fox, they will tell you all the lies you want to hear.
I'll take 4 more years of Obama/Biden over this disgusting display from all the GOP contenders!
Everyone would love to have a contentious and dramatic convention, but its not going to happen. Conventions now are pep rallies and coronations for TV audiences. The battle might continue up until the time that Romney wins enough delegates to get the nomination, but the convention is reserved for everyone in the GOP to make up and prove their solidarity and loyalty to the party.
I thought that by now everybody would yawn every time something is taken out of context by supporters of the opposing party. I've seen sooo many things taken out of context from both sides, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC... What else is new???
This is very bad for the GOP. They need to change these rules and give the majority winner all the delegates. What a nightmare scenario and will benefit the Democrats.
@MstertWooten
First and foremost you cannot stress LESS government and subsequently stabilize and fix an enormous economic crisis by not spending money on domestic programs to create economic growth. The Tea Party has stressed Less government yet they ask for More jobs. Is that really feasible? How does LESS government equal MORE jobs?Furthermore, when this administration passed the $787 billion stimulus bill, the GOP started stressing fiscal responsibility, while accusing this administration of wasteful spending. However, you cannot create the basis of job growth by not stabilizing the economy and the financial infrastructure.
Furthermore, if you truly believe the stimulus bill has unnecessarily inflated the national deficit, first of all, just google "The Stimulus Plan: How to Spend $787 Billion – The New York Times" then decide for yourself if this bill was wasteful spending. The final cost of the illegitimate Iraqi war is tabulated at four (4) trillion dollars and the combined cost of both the Afghan and Iraqi war by the projected end of the Afghan conflict is estimated to be six (6) Trillion dollars. Subsequently, we are still spending billions in Afghanistan weekly simply because the GOP deliberately and recklessly abandoned and prolonged this conflict to invade Iraq. So just decide for yourself which party has actually inflated our national deficit and failed the American people. And may I add that while the stimulus bill was spent in America on Americans and was was geared towards saving and improving American lives, the monies spend in Iraq and Afghanistan were spend overseas and were spent taking innocent lives.
Finally, three plus years later the Obama administration is yet to tax the wealthy so how could you say that taxing the wealthy is hampering economic growth? GWB gave the 3% a tax break for eight straigh years and with that we didn't end up with a thriving American economy. No, instead we ended up with the worst economic crisis in America since the Great Depression! You go figure that out!
V_mag you are so right about Rush the Russian! Not only does he learn from bottom-feeding fish but he is a REMORA...and as you know the remora's diet is primarily the feces of the host it attaches itself to. Unfortunately the host in this case is the GOP and the rabble-rousing teabaggers who continue to spew their lies and hate about Obama and the Dems. God Bless America and all the good people of this great country .... love is stronger than hate...We shall prevail.
Yeb, it will be a free show of bunch delusional clowns of grown imbecilic idiots on full display.
Like their academic records indicates each one of them have an IQ the shoe size a church mouse. Thery are robot puppeteers hooked to toilet rolls I might add. It will be a sight to see for sure! Whew, the world at large just can’t wait to laugh this through.
Republicans are really clueless. Bush handed over trillions of dollars of debt with interest to be paid by Obama. These bills are contractual and can't be paid off overnight. Along with long term bills to be paid Bushes deregulation took down the whole economy. So now the same folks that put us in this mess want it all fixed in 3 years. Talk about nuts!
I'm not a Romney fan..but the "very poor" was taken out of context
For Romney that is anyone owning only 1 mansion
"Has it ever occured to anyone to the right, left or in the middle that for three plus years and with the exception of liberals, no one to the right including the rightwing mainstram media has once bothered to mention what President Obama has inherited? Its sort of like pretending he inherited a clean slate with a thriving and economically stable and booming America."
That's all well and good son but the answer is clear. He needs to dramatically reduce spending and start balancing the budget with a view to realising surpluses for debt servicing. What's also clear is that Obama is bloacking attempts to reduce the size of government while not coming up with any of his own. When he talks about "investing" what he really means is spending and America has NO MORE money to spend. Running roughly a trillion dollar deficits each year is not sustainable. Bush is NOT preventing Obama from reducing government overgrowth, Obama is.
How do you people breathe inside that bubble? The guy has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at the problem and you've got the same old broken record complaint. Cut spending minimally, stop handling the wealthy with kid gloves and demand they pull the weight of the nation that allowed them those monumental advantages for so long...
He shaved a ton of government positions, actually inhibiting the added job numbers. He's repeatedly called for more efficient government agencies and elimination of redundancies. This country should have a 3 Tril budget, and it should be balanced on the backs of the wealthy until the warmongering deficit is reduced heavily.
Do you want a mud-pie brawl convention? Forget about 1980 – think instead something along the lines of the GOP convention at the Cow Palace in San Francisco in 1964. Now THAT was a real Donneybrook!
Fiscal responsibility v. wasteful spending1 You decide!
Final cost of the illegitimate Iraqi war – $4 trillion dollars
Projected combined cost of both the Iraq and Afghan war by projected end of Afghan conflict – $6 trillion dollars
Cost of the Obama economic recovery legislation – $787 billion dollars
Cost of the comprehensive healthcare legislation – $940 billion dollars.
Combined cost of the stimulus bill and healthcare legislation is $1 trillion, 727 billion.
Furthermore, the healthcare legislation is geared towrdas making healthcare affordable for an additional 30 million Americans, reducing healthcare costs, and safeguarding against discrimination of those with pre-existing conditions to begin with. Subsequently, the healthcare legislation is geared towards reducing our national deficit by $230 billion over a ten year period. And if you ask me I'd say that a healthier America is simply a stronger America.
Now decide for yourself which party is fiscally responsible and which party has recklessly inflated our national deficit and failed the American people.
Republicans will just ignore it, and find something else to blame Obama for.
I can't wait for it either! The ultimate FREAK show. Watch as the republican/teabagger swine eat their own.
"The Tea Party has stressed Less government yet they ask for More jobs. Is that really feasible? How does LESS government equal MORE jobs?"
If you knew any economics you'd know that government does NOT create the jobs or economic growth. Private industry does. Government merely redistributes money it takes from the economy to others which is not what you want to do. Remember this for every $30,000 in new government tax revenue raised, one to three jobs leave the economy.
"Furthermore, if you truly believe the stimulus bill has unnecessarily inflated the national deficit, first of all, just google "The Stimulus Plan: How to Spend $787 Billion – The New York Times" then decide for yourself if this bill was wasteful spending. "
Of course it was wasteful spending because it did nothing to stimulate economic growth (we've declined since that money was spent) and all we got for it was the $787 billion added to the deficit and debt.
"Subsequently, we are still spending billions in Afghanistan weekly simply because the GOP deliberately and recklessly abandoned and prolonged this conflict to invade Iraq."
Its STILL spending and while Afghanistan was needed and Iraq not it STILL doesn't solve the debt problem. Talking about Bush's spemding yesteryear STILL doesn't mean that Obama gets to abdicate his responsibility today. He needs to spend less so as to attract investment and stimulate the economy while trying to balance the budget. Balancing the budget will attract investors. Cancelling Keystone XL, again another Obama mistake. 20,000 initial jobs lost and countless thousands of spinoff jobs and economic activity lost. Not to mention the politics of it was stupid for Obama. He needs to capture blue collar support in the middle of the country, the types who wanted that pipeline, not the loonie environmentalists who he already has and who are less numerous at the ballot box.
"Finally, three plus years later the Obama administration is yet to tax the wealthy so how could you say that taxing the wealthy is hampering economic growth?"
If they are the only ones consuming, spending and investing in the economy at a healthy rate then how are economic measures designed to discourage their consumption going to help matters? Raise taxes perhaps in a fast growing economy where inflationary pressures are real, but that is hardly the case now. Nobody needs a tax increase now, especially since you are far more dependent on consumption revenue than you are from any kind of fixed rate revenue. Besides alot of those "rich" are small businesses. Raise their rates and they'll be adding to the unemployment totals when they have to lay people off to pay their increased taxes and Obama care mandate soon to come, which I'm hoping the Supreme Court invalidates later this year.
"Remember this for every $30,000 in new government tax revenue raised, one to three jobs leave the economy."
That is an outright lie. May God have mercy on your soul for bearing false witness. Or are you only repeating what you heard on trash radio? Here are the facts: Taxes went up under Reagan and Clinton, and employment surged. Taxes went way down under Bush I & especially Bush II, and employment tanked. Look it up.
How does raising taxes equate to more jobs? Please outline that thought process. If I'm a businessman and I get taxed more, I want to hire more? If I'm forced to pay more in healthcare costs, I want to bring on more employees?
Wishful thinking, Fareed. Romney will have this thing wrapped up after Super Tuesday. He may not have a majorty of delegates secured, but he will have such a commanding lead that Gingrich will come under intense pressure to drop out of the race because there is obviously no way he can possibly win.
Romney and the Republicans will then be free to focus all their attention on Barack Obama, who, unless the economy improves significantly between now & November, they have a soild chance of defeating. Obama's poll numbers in the dozen or so swing states that will decide the election don't look very good right now.
There is no class warfare, just something a fool like you have fallen for.
I do not envy the rich, I would like to be like them, but 33% tax for me and 15% for them, where are the jobs. Remember repub. say the government can not create job, so where are they private sector rich, need more tax breaks.
As for the very poor, they are trying to pull the rug out from under them, than safety net.
Republicans say government cant create jobs,
then turn around and Blame Obama for unemployment.
Republicans call Obama the food stamp president,
more people on food stamps under Bush.
Tell a lie often enough and it becomes truth ?
Only if you are a Republican.
Don't mind those pea brain Repuke idiots and their silly arguments.
Gov't created the very political jobs or positions they are aggressively seeking to death to occupy and be paid by the Gov't. to enable them to sit on their stinky assess and be obstructionist and hindrance to progress of all Americans than a chosen few. Not only that; all those military jobs are Gov't created jobs. They have NO brains or intellectual logic of their own than being a bunch of lunatic idiots on Gov't payroll.
Why will Obama win big in 2012? Bin Laden's dead and General Motors is alive. Period. Obama 2012!!!!!!!
Succinct and to the point – a correct!
Thumbs up Mike.
GOP will try to deny that too, lol.
Also America will run of tissues for GOP crying-babies and their sick, psycho teabaggars. Reserve a roll or two of toilet tissue for your next door sick, psycho teabaggars neighbors as good well.
I urge all Americans to invest in Tissue stocks.
Prez. Obama wins 2012 ............... period!
Not that I like it but Romney is going to win the nomination. And the only reason I think he will get it is because he has the most money to spend on the presidential campaign. Money talks. Sad but true.
The Republican party has outlived its purpose.
The Tea Party was the last nail in the coffin.
Rest in pieces.
As a Democrat, I hope not. We need an honest opposition party in this country. What I will say is that the honest opposition party that was known as the Republicans no longer exists. Any opposition party still put the needs of the country, patriotism, ahead of party loyalty. To lose the Republicans, in toto, allows for absolute rule . What we need is a Republican party who are patriots, willing to compromise, and to work first for the good of the country. That is what we need.
Well said.
Remember, Romney's quote was taken out of context.
I hope Newt drops out as people vote and speak up. its honestly embarrassing the party would ever resource to him. Newt is not a leader we need at this time.
I feel Romney is that leader and will help the country most....especially in this economic state were in
Who knows what Romney would do? He's a weasel who will take any position on any issue as long as it leads to votes. He's a weak candidate who only looks good (to some people) in comparison to the utter lunatics he shares the stage with at debates.
Except for Jon Huntsman who, as the only sane candidate who had a chance to beat Obama, had to take himself out of the race for lack of support among what has become of the GOP. That is the sad state of affairs nowadays in the good ole US of A!
I would have really liked to see Huntsman in the race, if only because, from an outsiders point of view, he seemed more moderate and yet a Republican. He seemed to have a consistency and a presidential demeanor. He would have drawn some of the Obama vote and many middle Republicans looking for someone to support. Unfortunately, since the Republican do not want to win this year, he is gone. I look forward to him reemerging in 2016. Till them I will keep an eye on what he supports and believes and if this belief is that the country comes first, the party second.
All because the TEA PARTY didn't have the GUTS to prove the NUMBERS they claimed, to then go off and form their own party. They just figured they would just steal the GOP and the dummies wouldn't notice.
Actually, the democrats should be called federalists and the republicans should be called democrats. The dems took the name a long time ago when federalist got a bad connotation. The direction the dems are taking the country is going to put us in a situation like europe. leave it to ignorance for the people of the USA to destroy itself.
We are OUR biggest enemy
I wouldn't waste my time watching a rightwing convention bent on twisting the truth and blaming the Obama administration for everything it inherited. And I could just hear the GOPbags telling the American people that President Obama invaded Iraq and Afghanistan while they worked to bring our troops home from Iraq. And I could just hear the rightwing lunatics telling the American people that they killed OBL and they inspired and helped bring about democratic reform to Egypt, Libya and Sudan. And as as the unemployment rate declines, I could just hear these rightwing nutjobs taking credit for the shwrinking unemployment rate and taking credit for the improvement in America's trust and credibility abroad.
And I could just hear them saying that the sky is green and the grass is blue. No, I will not waste my precious time wastching and listening to these rightwing lunatics spreading their propaganda, their fear mongering and hate as they continue to divide America with their blatant bigotry and racism. And I'm not going to listen to them whine about wanting to repeal healthcare reform, medicaid and medicare, financial reform, the 1964 civil rights legislation and the emancipation proclamation and programs for wome's health and how they want a return of Jim Crow.
The only way I'd watch that convention is if a tornado or earthquake were to struck. Then it would worth watching. And when all the dust cleared, American would be back on her path to stability, progress and prosperity.
Right on!
Yeah, like normal people are going to forget about the GOP administration that ignored warnings before 9-11, bungled Afghanistan, blundered into Iraq, signed the biggest welfare program since the 1960's (Part D), and the Secty of Treasury and economic team who twiddled their thumbs for 8 years while Wall St. ran the global economy off a cliff. Only blind hatred could make you forget 2001-2009
As a friend of mine said – If someone cut off your legs in 2000, does that mean you shouldn't blame them for not being able to walk today?
While it's true Romney said he's not concerned about the poor because they have a "safety net" and if there are holes in it he will fix them, he also has been very clear on supporting the Ryan budget plans which cuts billions from the safety net like nearly all other Republicans. He'll say anything to whatever audience he is trying to appeal to at that moment. Can't be trusted!
Smack on the money, Thomas.
I can't wait either....it will be like watching the reality show SURVIVOR with all the back-stabbing & behind the scenes deals. It should make for high drama and laughs...what other shows can promise that.
I'm amazed at how people vote for the candidates that are backed by big money and then wonder why the elected don't represent the "regular guy". As long as the process of elections remain the same,so too will the results.
We still have Democrats whining about Bush?
No matter what happens, all you people do is whine. Is that why the DES offices are filled with democrats? Welfare lines?
If you people spent as much time succeeding at something instead of whining, you'd be somewhere in life.
Were you in line at the welfare office too? How do you know they are all democrats?
It's hard to succeed when you can't afford basic health care and the school district that is supposed to educate you is laying off teachers left and right. The only hope I guess is that some corporate overlord will trickle down on you.
You need to have a wider range of reading material. Barney Frank and the jerks like him in congress REFUSED to look into the mismanagement of "Freddie" and "Fannie" as requested by the Bush administration. As a matter of record the idiot "Barney Frank" accused the administration of spreading falsehoods about the two housing lenders on at least three occasions. Secondly, look up what happened the Boeing (located in your backyard) by th democrats in congress. The repubs, I have issues with too, though I don't blindly follow either sides reading material. Get your face out of the Post Intelligencer and read something else.
Romney said that he doesn't worry about the poor because there is a safety net. Fine. But the fact is that he wants to be leader of a party that is bent on dismantling the safety net. That is the real issue– the Republican war on the safety net, which Romney supports along with all of the other Republican candidates.
Were you in line at the welfare office too? How do you know they are all democrats?
Republicans are out-of-touch idiots....Lets move on
@Master Wooten
You've got to be insane to say that the stimulus bill hasn't stimulated anything. I'm a state worker and when hundreds of us were being layed off at the onset of this economic crisis, luckily my job and hundreds of other state jobs were saved as a result of billions of stimulus to my home state. Furthermore, our Auto industry is once again booming because while the GOP and Mitt Romney said let the Big Three crumble to the ground, President Obama rescued the Auto industry, helping to save quarter of a million jobs. Furthermore, thousands of small businesses all across America have resurfaces as a result of the stimulus package so how dare you say the stimulus bill has not stimulated anything. You should be ashmed of your self.
I'm glad you mentioned the Keystone pipeline! Yes, that program was projected to create 20,000 American jobs. But first of all, this program wasn't killed in its entirety as it was posponed so that this administration can find a more suitable and appropriate way to get this resource on the mainland without polluting the environment and destroying sensitive land and waterways. Secondly, do you really believe the GOP and their Tea Party want thsi administration to be successful in creatin American jobs?
In 2010 Florida's Republican governer Rick Scott rejected the highly slated high speed rail projecte which would have created 23,000 American jobs jut to score political points. That's more jobs than the Keystone project would have created. Moreover, to make matters worst, Governor Scott and a host of other Republican governors across the country deliberately and recklessly rejected stimulus funds to help their local economy and put unemployed and struggling Americans back to work once again to stall progress and score political points. So what's your point?
All true, but don't expect any constructive posts from the mad cow disease-ridden republican drones who hang out here.
It is eminently obvious that the sole purpose of the GOP after Bush has been to make Obama fail so that they could later claim that he did nothing! Well he proved the bunch of hypocrites wrong anyway.
I must take issue about the Keystone Pipeline. The jobs for Americans would have only amounted to about 2,000 a year for the two years of construction, then maybe a couple of hundred for operation. Most of the jobs were to be Canadian.
Second there would be no advantage to the US from it, it would run from Canada to the Gulf ports for export, there was no pans for any of the oil to be stopped along the way for US refineries.
We will not measure the potential ecological impact as I will leave that to the tree huggers. But the Trans-Canadian, excuse me, Keystone XL pipeline was not and is not in the best interest if you believe that there would be many jobs for Americans created.
We all need to remember these guys will say and do anything to get elected, however its what they do once they are in
office we need to worry about. Sorry to say there is not anyone on the Republican side that is worthy to become the
President of the United States, we are living in sad times.
Even with the bar soooo lo?
Nic
America has the lowest tax rate in 50 years! What taxes are you talking about?
It's exactly the opposite when you consider ALL levels of taxation. Of course perhaps you were speaking of the 1/2 of the country that doesn't pay income tax?
YET AGAIN......WHAT's UNIQUE ABOUT RE-PRODUCING JEFF GREENFIELD's COLUMN HERE?
Not sure if Mr.Greenfiled or anyone else would write a story based on Mr.Zakaria's column!
No wonder a lot of people think Mr.Zakaria writes (often times on issues he barely knows anything about!) just to stay in the limelight!
Amit-Atlanta-USA
A sad, sad comentary regarding American politics. It's a business. Drag it out to the end and sell more tickets, rack up the donations, and get filthy rich. It's not about substance, it's all about the show.
Ron Paul has it right, we have lost our way. Ron Paul, 2012.
yea! dont fall for that class warfare garbage!! just b/c the rethuglicans have been dishing it out for 30 years and now its payback time and the wussies cant stand getting it given right back at them, thats no reason to vote o-muslim, birthed in somewhere w/lots of brown/black people -ville. yea!!!
even tho' you have a h/s education tops, havent read a bbook in years and make $40K/$50K per year no reason to not carry water for the billionaires who've been boning you for literally decades. you tell teabags-for-brains guys like ol' "shutup" and "nic". its people like you who wealth concentrated in all the inefficient places its been sine Reagan.
For the record; supply side economics doesnt work; and for the record, keynesian economics doesnt work. The workforce does not fluctuate based on the amount of tax and regulation, and never has. Workforce is based on demand. The only way to increase demand is to boost the spending power of those who spend the most money on production goods, the middle class. The very poor spend most money on rent/mortgage, food, and other necessities. The very rich usually horde most of their wealth and spend it on fine items or designer items. The middle class spends their money on mass-manufactured goods. That being said, giving any liquid funds to the poorest of the nation will not encourage the purchase of manufactured goods. Cutting taxes to the wealthiest will not spur job growth, because the wealthy will not hire people unless they have a demand for products. Increasing the taxes on the wealthy will not spur job growth either because that money will be spent back into the economy in a way that funnels it right back up to the wealthy. To improve the economy one solution is to tax the wealthy and remove this money from the supply. With less money in the economy the purchasing power of the dollar may increase and the middle class might be able to increase purchasing and spur demand. The poorest of the nation are the most closely tied to the wealthy economically. Any money given to the poor finds it way to rich quickly, any money given to wealthy will stay with wealthy. Money to the middle class will eventually finds its way to the wealthy, but stays within the middle and upper middle class longer. Money is made for the exchange of goods; money is not supposed to be a commodity that is used to make more money.
So, in the end the wealth will end up where it is, only it will take a while. The logic is sound and I am sure that the truly wealthy thinking people know it. By that I mean those who are still actively involved in the manufacture and distribution of things, not just the shuffling of money (e.g. Wall Street, LBO firms, Private Equity firms). The founders of companies that made/make things know that they should only continue if there is someone to buy/consume them. If there is no demand, because those who buy/consume can no longer afford to do that, eventually their wealth, the rich producers will dry up also. So, as you assert, for a relatively short time, the wealth, rich need to inject their wealth, through taxes, into the system, so that the country can get it into the capitalist system and eventually, through increased sales, get it back to those people, the newly taxed wealthy. Anyone knows that if this does not happen, even the ranks of the wealthy will eventually (maybe it will take a long time) will be trimmed, and then there will be no resource for money left to tap. A short term loss, for a long term gain...I'd take that action.
What's amazing about the Republican party is how deceitfully evil and destructive these rightwing lunactics are. For example, for three three years they have deliberately and relentlessly stalled economic progress by blocking every jobs bill introduced by the Obama administration. But all of a sudden they're concerned about jobs so much to want to force Obama's hands into approving the Keystone pipeline project by trying to make passage of an upcoming highway contruction bill contingent with approval of the pipeline proposal. And what is the catch? Well, the GOP knows fully well that thousands of environmentalists across this country are opposed to the keystone pipeline so what better way to turn these prospective voters against Obama in the general election by getting him to anger them by approving this controversial project prematurely without furth studying its effects on the environment . Once again, the reckless, deceitful and shemeless Republicans are again playing politics with the safety and welfare of the American people. And if this was China, Russia oe some Middle Eastern country, the entire Republicanbag party would have longed be tried and executed for treason. Well, only in America!
As I stated before, and you have proven, since their candidate in the2012 election will be so weak against a sitting President, they need something to get their voters out to the polls. Your analysis of this Keystone deal is spot on, it is going to be the wedge issue to drive conservatives to the polls. We will see more seemingly unconnected issues like this over the next few months,[think Komen/Planned Parenthood] and they will all be tied together in September/October so that the Republicans have a slim chance. Unfortunately, if Democrats prove true to form, they will stay home more than the Republicans. Democrats chances are better if they actively and forcefully get out the vote...telling their supporters that all of them...not just the big money guys...are important. Well, one can only hope someone in the Democratic party reads this comments section.
I can wait for the convention, forever preferably, because after the convention, the massive slime attacks we just suffered through in Florida will go national and 24/7 and probably make the Florida campaign ads look like ads for cute puppies.
Obama gets way stronger pushback than Reagan on taxes. Reagan didn't get same pushback when he talked about raising taxes in 1985. Obama's raising taxes on carried interest was compared to Hitler's invasion to poland in 1939.
Equivalence can be a tricky issue. Not.
1) Do you realize how much closer we are to bankruptcy now than when under Reagan?
2) Were we borrowing 60% of every dollar spent?
3) What percent of federal revenue was/is coming due in the next 3 years?
4) Has Obama engendered a confidence in and for our nation like Reagan?
These are just a few off the top of my head. Give it a try some time.
We are not close to bankruptcy and there is no catastrophe. It only takes 2.5-3% of the GDP to service the debt. Lower than at several points in the past. 'Sky is falling due to debt' is a fiction created by the tea party.
Regan started the 'spend the money you don't have' and 'borrow from your kids' campaign. Clinton brought it under control and left with a surplus. W frittered away the surplus and blew debt through the roof, left the economy in shambles. Now it is all Obama's fault. Please.
Jason, First, President Obama disagrees with your bankruptcy point. In an ABC News interview in 12/09 pushing for Obamacare passage, he said Medicare would bankrupt the country. Obamacare didn't even spit at the problem. And you know it.
Second, your 3% of the GDP could change in a moment's notice when investors have better options and/or realize increasing inflation will destroy both their return AND principal.
Third, 3% of GDP is less deceptively stated as 20% of Federal Revenue.
Fourth, "budget surpluses ... under Clinton" is a LIE, unworthy of honorable men. By definition a budget surplus would lower the federal debt. But the Treasury Direct website says that hasn't happened since 1957.
The only way anyone can claim "Clinton era budget surpluses" is by double counting Social Security surpluses as general revenue. Why doesn't that disgust you as much as it does me?
Our debt situation is your and my fault. You interested in saving our nation, or remaking it?
@GOP2 – now you are switching from debt to Medicare. The country is not near bankruptcy in any way shape for form. First the claim was that debt is causing collapse. Now, just eliminate Medicare.
Of course medical costs are too high must be brought under control.
Guess who will oppose any and all attempts to do that? Right, the Tea Party and the right wing.
Who would rather eliminate medicare and SS? Let the poor or those who lost a job die, because the free market says so? Right, the Tea Party and the right wing.
No, I do not want to "remake" the country according to the Tea Party vision, which is based on anarchy, lack of any regulation and law. It is a inhuman, brutal, 14th century society. 1% oligarchy controls everything, others can stay alive if they are lucky or die, whatever. Thanks, but no thanks.
Any way to spin it, Clinton balanced the budget, and Bush and Reagan increased the debt tremendously. Remember, Cheney said, "Reagan proved the deficits don't matter?" Somehow he didn't think of saying "They matter only when a democratic black president in in charge".
Any way you spin it, using 2.5% of GDP for debt is not collapse, when it was 3.5% just 10-15 years ago.
Jason: You didn't answer whether you were interested in saving our nation, so forgive me a longer while I pretend your are:
"The country is not near bankruptcy in any way shape or form"? I'm thinking we should probably consider measurements our public debt holders focus on? And I'm pretty sure interest as a percent of GDP is pretty low on their list. Perhaps because it's so heavily influenced by the interest rate? And they know, like I said, our interest rate can easily and quickly change. What other measurements would you suggest would indicate we are near bankruptcy?
Seems like we agree Cheney was wrong? Even if he was speaking only about "small" deficits?
I'm "switching from debt to Medicare"? No. I mentioned bankruptcy, you said it's a non-issue, and I pointed out Obama disagrees with you. Obama mentioned Medicare because he knows the truth.
"14th century society"? Wasn't the Boston Tea Party in the 18th century? And you think post Boston Tea Party America was inhuman & brutal? Relative to what?
I'ld like to find our common ground, and to pursue truth to help our nation. How about you? Is there somewhere we can go for a longer-term discussion?
I don't think you understood my comment. President Obama wanted to close a loophole created by private equity lobbyists. It helps private equity guys pay 15% tax instead of 39% which was previous tax rate. When president just started talking about it, world's number 1 private equity guy steve schwarzman started calling President's plan Hitler's invasion to Poland. This guy is way too powerful than U.S president. Reagan never had this kind of pushback when he talked about closing tax loophole.
Fareed,
There are 16 remaining primaries in which winner-takes-all rules apply. That's a bit more than a "few."
It certainly is entertaining to watch the pathetic morons. If you vote Republican, you vote for the destruction of the American way of life.
So you're keen on lies?
ObamaCare is a $1.2T solution to Medicare's $89T problem.
75 more ObamaCares and Medicare is fixed!
Political BS. Isn't it great? Blame, blame, blame.. It's your fault... no, it's your fault. Hate, hate, hate. It's great being in America where we have the right to hate each other. Political races built on what they can do for our country? Naw, they are all built on destroying your enemies without ever having to really say anything about what you plan to do besides "If I'm elected I'm going to clean up that mess in Washington". Right, sure you are.
After reading these forums I think everybody is an Awhole. Is there anybody you guys don't hate?
With the Republicans in the House and Senate, and their Presidential "candidates" it's a three ring circus.
NO MORE REPUBLICANS.
I am not in the habit of, nor appreciate re-posting, but in this case I am breaking my own rules. This is a re-post of a comment made a while back. It bears a re-airing.
As a Democrat, I hope not. We need an honest opposition party in this country. What I will say is that the honest opposition party that was known as the Republicans no longer exists. Any opposition party still put the needs of the country, patriotism, ahead of party loyalty. To lose the Republicans, in toto, allows for absolute rule . What we need is a Republican party who are patriots, willing to compromise, and to work first for the good of the country. That is what we need.
Alas that Republican Party no longer exists; it's been polluted by teas and right-wingers who are no longer capable of thinking objectively for the good of the country.
Why are we in Afghanistan? is it drugs or jsut because they are smaller and weaker so they just want to take them over?
Where do the pharmaceutical companies get their drugs? Are they coming from Afghanistan? Pakistan? India? China?
Whose interests are we protecting? And why don't they have to tell us? Seems like someone is using our military as a mercenery.
The Feds just gave Tampa $25 Million for security for the GOP convention.
They'll need it just to keep all the GOP-factions from killing each other.
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Since you rightwing conservatives seem to have all the answers, except the answers to where the WMD's are and why the Iraqi war lasted a decade and mission has not been accomplished and why we are still spending billions and suffering casualties in Afghanistan, let me ask you a much easier question. And that question is if the economic stimulus bill was wasteful spending, then what would you have done differently to stabilize the broken economy and create 14 million jobs overnight?
A matter of fact the Ryan package was a last minute alternative stimulus packake proposed by the GOP in 2009. Compared to the Obama stimulus bill of $787, the Ryan bill called for $713 billion in stimulus with $430 billion in tax cuts with a projected 6.2 million jobs to be created over the next decade. The next decade? Paul Ryan and the GOP must be f-ing crazy! To see the GOP alternative stimulus bill, google the Senate offersAlternative Stimulus Plan – Political Hotsheet – CBS News.
But back to the question...if you were president, what would you have done different than the Obama administration to stabilize the economy and create 14 million jobs in three years? Please respond!
Yep...you folks on the right have yourselves quite the freak show going on. Now you have Trump, an obnoxious unlikable snot jumpin in ahead of voters in Nevada to try and influence the outcome. You have Palin, you have Bachmann, you have Newt who suddenly all evangelicals love (so much for their deep rooted convictions) and you had Cain.
Your party is about as dysfunctional, unappealing, and pathetic you should all be ashamed and embarrassed. This election is over. And you preugs have no one to blame but yourselves including your evangelicals, your tea party, and your apparent open door policy of bringing the creepiest candidates you can possibly find out into the open.
No, it's not a case of taking a few words out of context. You have to go beyond that, trust your gut which is telling you that the obscenely rich really don't care about the poor. Here, in India, and everywhere.
The 'safety net' excuse is another way of saying that the poor are not really human beings, just a sub species of humanoids who deserve what they have, so we'll throw them some scraps occasionally, to show how much we care.
There are exceptions. Blil Gates, to name just one of many, who silently and in a totally non political way do a lot, a LOT, for the poor and disadvantaged. And they never talk about how religious they are.
Any politician who touts their religious background and strong faith is a complete phony, saying what their blind, brainwashed slaves want to hear.
Romney is a disgusting example of a failed human being, no matter how many companies he bought, dismantled and lives he destroyed. Letting him run the country is like letting a drug lord run a rehab hospital.
Do any of you honestly think that the economy is going to change much in the next 4 years, no matter who is in office ? High gas prices will only get higher. The jobs market will not change until there is financial ease over in Europe, which the USA has no control over. Keeping taxes low on the rich hasn't done anything to increase jobs over the last 4 years and will comntinue to factor in with higher debt, Taxing the rich higher won't change that either, but it will ease the debt. So , not much will change. The only things of significance that will change if a GOPer is placed in the White House is an increase in Military spending on obsolete equipment and obsolete ways of fighting wars, a take away of a health insurers ability to get insurance on previous illnesses, or even an ability to qualify for insurance, a take away of stem cell research and application, a take away of a woman's right to choose, or a gay couple's right to marry, inclusion into the public high school science curriculum of ID or Creationism, a take away of the powers of the EPA and a continual denial of Climate Change or the inclination to do something about it, a war with Iran , a balanced budget ammendment.that will interfere with our ability to borrow against money already spent ..need I go on ??? These now become the important issues in light of the fact that the real issues will not change over the course of 4 more years, as I stated at the beginning, no matter who is in office. Can we afford this kind of denial and anti-intellectualism in the White House and in Congress from the GOP over the next 4 years ?
"Can we afford this kind of denial and anti-intellectualism in the White House and in Congress from the GOP over the next 4 years ?"
In a word, NO! Actually HELL NO! Anti-intellectualism should be refudiated at every turn.
I can't wait for Zakaria to drop dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy, my cap lock off. If that's all that matters, please do not read my post. It is meant for someone of intelligence, and your IQ probably hovers around 100. Mine on the other hand is 166, so you can't if you tried keep up with me. Now back to Mitt Romney, who does "not care about the very poor." The most obscene statement I ever heard uttered from a politician. He doesn't care about the poor because he does not have a clue what it means. He gets 3 squares, many homes and enjoys the privelege of going from here to there in the jet of his choice. I believe he uses a chartedt Boeing 737 for campaining but owns a Gulfstream VI, $60+ million. Trust me, I am a pilot with a commercial rating. He showed his net worth earlier this week to be approx. $350 million, however that does not include the almost $1billion in Swiss bank accounts. It was reported that when he was managing partner of the PR firm Bain & Co. he was worth approx. $1billionb, kept off shore to avoid paying federal income tax. Yet he crucifys the politics and cultures of western Europe. InFrance, and the UK and Belgium and The Netherlands, (the list goes on) you get a state pension for life. And unlike SS it is comensurate with the present standard of living. And he dares to mention Abraham Lincoln of whom he has little or no knowledge of. Shame on Romney. Please do not respond to my post as you bore me.
Sorry man, caps lock DOES matter. It's hard on the eyes to read, and is interpreted as shouting.
For all of you idiots that keep saying what a great man Romney is because he donates to charity, worked as a missionary, blah, blah, blah, have any of you seen those young men in black dress pants and white dress shirts riding bicycles around your town? That is the missionary work Romney did, he's Mormon, that is what their supposed to do. Don't fool yourselves by stating what a great man this guy is, his donating to charity is the Mormon church and they are required to do that. You Romney heads keep telling yourselves what a great man he is and we'll all be wearing flame proof underwear in January 2013.
There likely a deal between Santorum and Romney: Santorum stays in as long as Gigrich stays, splitting the conservative vote. In return, Santorum gets the VP slot.
Zakaria is a left wing stooge. Does anyone really care that he can't wait for the GOP convention?
Who really cares what some two bit hack muslim like zakaria thinks? He is a complete tool.
You evidently do. And if you didn't even read the column, yet came to comment anyway, that says TONS more about you than about Zakaria...and none of what it says is good.
Mittens might need to start wearing his magical mormon underwear more often – protection from the slings and arrows of the frightening media just reporting his words.
All crappy people in a crappy business. This GOP race is a race to the bottom by people who have no ideas or vision. Is this really the best the party has to offer? Oh, but people get to wear straw hats and hold up lame banners for a few days. Yippee.
Obama has a vision; Everybody get same – same. Only the ruling elites can exercise true freedom for it is only those with a vison to rule the masses that can have materialistic pleasures.
Hey Mitt! Four million poor Americans who wasn't interested in the the general election just registered to vote against you if you get the GOP nomination.! Hahahhaha!
Romney is PURE LOVE!
And so did the unemployed middle class! They're all going to gang up and send your rich behind back to Caman-Bain!Hahahaha! Mitt you're smoked toast!
The Republicans are why the economy tanked in the first place and this tired bunch of presidential wanabees will undo the slow progress we have made thus far. And BtW anyone with an once of brain knew the economy would continue sliding after Bush left the White House and knew thwe damage he did would take more that 4 years to repair even if superman took over. So the thought of another Republican President, especially of the low calibre of the current slate, send chills down my spine.
Only one question can decide who to vote for: If you are better off now than you were four years ago; Vote Obama. If not; Vote GOP. Its that simple. I am not better off so Obama needs to go.
I'm going to give Romney the benefit, and take his comment about, "I don't care about the very poor" in full context. Its still doesn't excuse the fact that he said they have a safety net. According to the latest census 50 million people are in poverty, and 150 million are low income which is a family of four making $22K or less. And 1 of 3 people are considered low income or poverty. Since the GOP has taken over the house, and local state governments, we have seen over $750B in cuts to safety net programs. Even though 90% of Americans consider themselves middle class, only 50% are actual middle class according to the Census. So what Middle Class is he trying to protect? The middle class as been shrinking for 30 years because of free trade, globalization, and Reagan's trickle down economics. What CNN should have asked in that interview to Romney is what income level does he consider Middle Class. I bet you $10,000, he would have said $100K or more. This man is out of touch.
Frankly, I really don't much care whether Romney or Gingrich wins–as long as the ultimate winner can't get there without Ron Paul's help. It's the only way I can think of to start dragging the GOP away from Big Government, authoritarian, statism of the neo-cons.
Well, I'm better off so Obama stays. Hahahahaha!
Hey, you must be Joe Biden !
Still, its bad for the party that they can't get behind one name and continue mud slinging at each other for the next 6 months. With all the dirty politics on the GOP side during the GOP primary, Obama wont even have to make attack ads. Its already being done for him by the GOP.
I am not a fan of Romney, but I am not a fan of Obama either. Both Republican and Democrat policies have made a mess of this country. We need to get rid of them both.
I vote for bird in hand, at least I know Obama has heart and soul; you can't say that about the GOP stable of candidates.
The big winner here is Santorum. Gingrich is going to offer him large sums of (untraceable) money to exit the race, while Romney will offer equally large (and equally untraceable) amounts to stay in the race.
What's being ignored by Romney defenders is his total lack of understanding of the "safety net". "If" it's broken...? It is miserably broken and the policies that Romney has endorsed will rip what remains of the net to shreds. 50% of Americans are now considered low income or poverty level & that decline is snow-balling rapidly. Four decades ago, 67% of Americans were considered "middle-class". That figure is now 44% and dropping. Romney's plans do NOT help the middle-class, unless you consider eliminating it a fix. He lives in an ivory tower. He has no idea, nor does he care how most of his fellow American's live, yet he wants us to believe he will represent us. Don't be fooled.
Romney's proposal cuts the safety net. Enough said.
The biggest danger when talking about economic concerns is that most have no idea how economics works. I can tell you now that if your economic position falls in line with a political position, then you are backing an ineffective economic policy. The partys have started from a paradigm and from there have selected an economic policy that fits in with their philosophy (republicans believe in limited federal government, and democrats in a robust federal government). The economy does not follow a philosophy and based on the times and situation, the economic policies need to change to address the current issues. The fact is, we function in a fractional reserve economy; this is an unstable system that is known to eventually be doomed to failure; but it does allow for rapid expansion as long as there is exponential growth in production and money supply. We are entering in the era of the demise of the system; the money supply has grown too fast and because of usury practices the money has lost its purpose. It is no longer used to value the trade of goods. The problem we are facing in our country has nothing to do with government, politics, or politicians. It has to do with human greed and ignorance. The ignorance begins with mass misunderstanding of our economic system, followed by the inability for consumers to make conscious choices about how they spend their money. (buying foreign products, spending 6 dollars on a cup of coffee, buying fast food made with animal bones and eyes). The greed comes in because people will exploit this ignorance to increase their wealth. And honestly, if you do not know how the fractional reserve system works, you have no business commenting on the economy, because you are just parroting someone else's philosophy, not their economic expertise, because if you did understand the economy you would know that both sides are very wrong.
You should write for Time Magazine.
What's so hard about fractional reserves? Ron Paul explains it in "End the Fed". So they lie about what they actually possess. Who would have ever suspected that?
My job is to go to work every day and provide for my family. I am only concerned with the economics of my home address. Everyone in this country should do the same; We elected Obama to assist in making conditions better for our persaonal econmies and for me that has not gotten better but worse. Should a new President come to office and fail at doing the same he should be fired also. Thats the way it works in the real world.
For most of the country, thigs have gotten better. You have to look at more than the president, you need to look at congress.
It's just not that simple. Let's not forget what all the GOP candidates were saying in 2008; that this was a big mess and it might get worse before it got better. They were covering their a** back then in case they won. As soon as Obama got in, well, it was all his fault. If anyone thought, or still thinks, that the filth left behind from the previous 8 years of the Bush regime was going to be cleaned up in 3 years they're delusional.
I don't usually quote other's posts, but I'll repeat delp's earlier post because it's factual:
"Oil hit $140 a barrell in the summer of 2008. Wall street collapsed and was bailed out in the fall of 08'. The housing market collapsed in the fall of 08' along with the mortgage industry. The economy started to tank in the fall of 08'. The stock market began collapsing in the fall of 08'. Unemployment began skyrocketing in the fall of 08'
All of these things are the reason we are in the mess we are now. They all happened in the fall of 08'.
Obama was inaugurated in January of 2009. When somebody lights your house of fire, do you blame the arsonist or the fireman who shows up to put it out?"
Please remember that there were many who were forecasting much worse times or even a full-blown depression in 2008. Didn't happen. Was it because of Obama's policies? Maybe. We'll never know for sure, but action had to be taken to stop the bleeding from the previous administration. Do you want to go back to the people who supported Bush and his many fiascos?
So you want to elect another Republican to fix an economy ruined by a former Republican, to the tune of 4 trillion to fight an unnecessary war...
I guess the economic lightswitch dosn't work. Maybe if we gave him 4 more years to work on it we would see better results. Sorry you didn't get your instant gratification, but maybe firing a guy that has shown progress in a really difficult situation is your way of dealing with things. Good luck to all the armchair economists out there.
The Republican Convention should be a real Hoot, with all of the CLOWNS in one place.
Typo in paragraph two – " and those can include Guam or Washington DC – then YOU (sic) name gets placed on the ballot'. Yer welcome, uuh-huh!
I always look forward to what Fareed has to say. Thanks
You can win the Presidency without carrying the Northeast. Say what you want to about the South but a Repub can't win without it. Romney ain't that popular. Also most Baptists won't vote for a Mormon. But if Mitt DOES get the nod, Obama will eat him for lunch about Mormonism's racist past. I still don't understand why Reps will run a rich moderate. Maybe it's because that's what the rep Party is full of these days, not conservatives. You watch, the Tea Party is just waiting politely in the wings.
I'm kinda getting a kick out of Huey,Dewey,& Louie dragging the republicans through the mud..We really need to get some new blood into government.Both the Dems & Repubs have lost site of who & where is really important.
Thank you, Mr. Zakaria, for this short, but very illuminating, piece about how Republican Party procedures make it likely that Newt will still be around come Republican Convention time. I am hearing some more thoughtful Republican pundits say that despite Romney's gaffs and despite the fact that he appears to be souless, he is actually qualified to be president. David Fromm described him as "judicious." If he is so thoughtful and judicious, why does he need an army of experts to help him do better in debates?
Mitt Romney worships the devil. His money is tainted by evil. He will never be elected president. Truth and Jesus will prevail
This whole mess is a result of 8 years of a Republican in the White House. Bush is responsible for two wars that were not paid for. He is responsible for tax cuts and borrowed for China to pay for them. That created a huge debt, and Obama was forced to add to the debt to keep the economy from falling off a cliff. The economy is like a huge ship. It takes a long time to slow it down, (8 years to butcher the economy) and a long time to get it moving again, ( more than 3 years to return to normal.) When the Bush administration did not enforce rules on the banks and allowed them to deal in phony mortgages, and go into debt themselves, it created a world wide recession. These are not normal times, and it is more difficult to restore your economy when your trading partners are also suffering financially. The capitalist system has had a temorary failure, and it needs rules enforced to protect the people, and to stop another bailout of the banks. Policies are needed that reduce the wealth gap between the rich and poor. This wealth gap could soon create riots and anarchy. The national debt must also be corrected. Cutbacks are needed. Taxes on the rich must happen. The economy must improve so revenue can improve and help pay down the debt. These problems are a result of Republican policies. It would be scary to go back to those failed policies. Hopefully, the country is smart enough to see all this. Are they?
Either you don't dig past the headlines, or your nose is getting REALLY long!
Bob: You want scary?
- our unfunded liabilities are > $120T,
- and ALL federal revenue from income AND Social Security taxes is less than $2.4T/yr!!!
please realize $120T / $2.4T = 50x,
so every taxpayer owes 50 years of taxes TODAY just to get us back to even!!!
- We have a 100% debt to GDP ratio,
going up ~10%/yr with >$1.2T deficits, so it's a right now problem,
- 60% of public debt matures in less than 3yrs,
- astronomical money supply growth
Nothing was taken out of context. The entire sentence and interview was aired. Romney is so ignorant that he doesn't even know the "safety net" for the poop is virtually non-existant.
I am not Republicans or democrats but I wittnessed that Mitt romney doesnot care for American people ,
i guess mitt romney only wants to be called "US president "because he doesnt care about struggling americans.
The economy was so great when Bush left office. And Obama has destroyed it all. At lease Bush started out with a surplus his first two years. Now Republicans complain about Obama and his handling of the economy. Buy yet it was their congress that downgraded us from a AAA rating to a AA. By taking this country hostage over a financial deal. Even if Obama could fix this mess that was 30 years in the making. Republicans would take credit for it like Newt did over Clinton's balance Budget. Even now Republicans want to somehow take credit for OBL being Killied under Obama's watch time.
"budget surpluses ... under Clinton" is a LIE, unworthy of honorable men. By definition a budget surplus would lower the federal debt. But the Treasury Direct website says that hasn't happened since 1957.
The only way anyone can claim "Clinton era budget surpluses" is by double counting Social Security surpluses as general revenue. Hopefully that disgusts you as much as it does me?
Now granted, the deficits were decreasing in size. And that brings us to the obviously improving economy of the 90's, and the question of whom to credit? (Don't forget the cold war peace dividend and the residual benefits of Reaganomics.)
P.S. So "this mess that was 30 years in the making" but it was the Republicans that got us the debt rating downgrade? Wake up. Without getting our house in order, the debt downgrade was inevitable. NEITHER side is addressing the TRUTH, and neither are you:
- our unfunded liabilities are > $120T,
- and ALL federal revenue from income AND Social Security taxes is less than $2.4T/yr!!!
please realize $120T / $2.4T = 50x,
so every taxpayer owes 50 years of taxes TODAY just to get us back to even!!!
- We have a 100% debt to GDP ratio,
going up ~10%/yr with >$1.2T deficits, so it's a right now problem,
- 60% of public debt matures in less than 3yrs,
- astronomical money supply growth
to blame talking about what to do is load of crap. It was overspending for decades that caused the downgrade. Stop ignoring the problem. your main lender is china which is below you guys.
Zakaria, you are an Obama buffoon! Plain and simple!!!
it is all in the name of good television. Debates, conventions, etc., its all reality TV and it drives up the ratings.
First of all, Romney is the captain of 'out of context', so those of you throwing stones are in glass houses. Does anyone recall the first Romney add this year with Obama quoting McCain and the add skipping the part that he was quoting his opponent? The GOP is a 'firing squad standing in a circle' as a wise man once said. The economy IS on the mend, though it takes more than simply executive orders to get it done. For those of you who claim to be fiscally conservative, remember that the moderate tax hikes on the wealthy and closing loopholes is the alternative to changing grandmas fixed income that she can barely survive on. Somewhere along the way, someone lost their moral compass and the compassion and fairness that once embodied our nation has become a divisive fight for the rich, often waged by the people who don't even realize they are the victims in waiting. Education is hard, but it beats fear mongering.
that is one of the ugliest mugs in news
The GOP mantra: Turn all the Old, Sick, Poor, Non-white, Non-christian, Unemployed, and Gay people into slaves. Then whip them until they are Young, Healthy, Rich, White, Christian, Employed, and Straight. Or until they are dead. Then turn them into Soylent Green to feed the military.
What's your purpose? The nation is imploding and this is the best you can do? What say we raise the bar?
BREAKING NEWS...
The unemployment rate has dropped to 8.5%! Sorry! I misspoke! Make that 8.3%. Sorry Mitt! Hahahahha!
Open your eyes wide and you will see a bigger, blacker picture of GOP.
Forget all that stageplaying and acting, cosmetics splashed over their hidden agenda and you will see that these fellows are not going to be able to resolve common American problems.
More has been said by these Republican candidates about themselves and against the other – than what they really and realistically can do for the citizens.
These rallies and debates should be seen as Hollywood – even though its definitely nowhere near the Academy award quality.
My prediction: Pres Obama 54% Romney 46%
By the way, is it true that attendants at Romney's rallies are mostly temple garment wearing Mormons?
The GOP is imploding due to its many hypocracies and foibles. The Democrates have hypocracies and foibles, too, but of lesser political consequence...at this moment in time.
We The People deserve better than any of these dunderheads. Isn't there anyone out there? PLEASEEEE!
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