Editor’s Note: Danielle Pletka is the vice president for foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank based in Washington, DC. Before joining AEI, she served for ten years as a senior professional staff member for the Near East and South Asia on the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. The views expressed in this article are solely those of Danielle Pletka.
By Danielle Pletka – Special to CNN
Obama administration officials have labeled the United Nations’ failure to act on Syria as “outrageous” and a “travesty”. But that’s about all they’ve done about Syrian dictator Basher el Assad’s wanton murder of thousands of innocent Syrians.
Meanwhile, in the wake of the failure of last weekend’s weak Security Council resolution, more than 400 Syrians were killed in ruthless assaults. They had nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Syrian opposition leaders have begged the international community to act, to do more than convene in contact groups and make rounds on the diplomatic circuit. But their begging has fallen on deaf ears.
Why care about Syria?
Let’s again rehearse the simple reasons:
- Syria is the soft underbelly of Iran, Tehran’s most important ally, conduit for arms and cash to terrorists.
- Syria has been home to and sponsor of terrorists that have killed American soldiers and non-combatants in Iraq, in Lebanon, in Israel, in the West Bank and more.
- Syria was likely behind the murder of the former Prime Minister of Lebanon, an act for which it has paid no price
- Syria has been the godfather to Iran’s terrorist creature, Hezbollah, which has degraded and exploited the Lebanese state (among many other sins).
-Syria’s despotic government has murdered thousands of its own people and will continue to do so until Bashar al-Assad has secured once again his dominion over the Syrian people.
A unique confluence of American moral purpose and America’s strategic interest argue for intervention in Syria. It’s time to do something tangible.
It’s time to start arming the Free Syrian Army, convening the disparate factions of the Syrian opposition and coaching them toward an interim government. It’s time to create safe zones along the border with Turkey and humanitarian corridors to get there. It’s time to protect those corridors from the air with a limited no-fly zone and establish safe cities. And it’s time to do all that without benefit of a Security Council resolution, because let’s admit it, the Security Council’s moral authority is nil with Russia and China in permanent seats.
It’s time to begin to work with Turkey and coax the Islamist Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan into a position as moral leader in his region. He may be taking Turkey down a dangerous path, but at the moment, he’s willing to do the right thing on Syria. Let’s double down on that.
It’s in the U.S. interest; it’s also in Israel’s interest, and worth their while to arrange themselves on the side of Turkey and the Arab League against the loathsome al-Assad. That doesn’t mean coming out publicly and intervening in Arab affairs, but it does mean beginning to have quiet talks behind the scenes with interested parties. Indeed, it is fascinating that Israel, which has found itself in weird concert with the Arabs on Libya, Iran and Syria, has failed to exploit that position to improve its regional relations in any way. One might almost think Israel an indifferent observer to ouster of al-Assad, a sworn enemy.
Syria will have a post-Assad future. That future could be in the hands of Qatari backed Salafis, Saudi-backed Islamists, or the Western world could have a say. Sitting on the sidelines will ensure that we have as little as possible.
Here is what President Barack Obama said about Libya in May of last year:
“To brush aside America's responsibility as a leader and – more profoundly – our responsibilities to our fellow human beings under such circumstances would have been a betrayal of who we are. Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different. And as president, I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action."
How does Syria not meet that standard? For shame on Obama for his hypocrisy, his indifference, and his abdication of American moral and strategic leadership.
The views expressed in this article are solely those of Danielle Pletka.
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What Obama needs to do is to keep this country out of Syria's civil war where it has absolutely no business! Moreover, he has no business making demands for any kind of "regime change" in Syria. On the other hand, some country like Germany or Russia needs to get the Assad regime and the so-called "rebels" together to try to settle the current unrest there.
Way to go George! We are tired of being called on to save the world and then being shot in the back.
Wow, you guys get it. I believe it's mostly Sunnies. One minutes you're helping Arabs/Muslims, another minute they start cursing the USA.
Thirteen months ago advocates of the "Responsibility to Protect (R2P) trumpeted these three words to justify the imposition of the No-Fly-Zone over Libya, which ultimately led to the fall of Gaddafi's regime. Why doesn't it resonate in the same ears when it comes to Syria? It just shows that inconsistency in politics doesn’t necessary have to be seen as an erratic behaviour but a choice of pragmatic realism.
NO, Obama needs to do SOMETHING NOW!
WHY? Because he is the leader of our democracy and DEMOCRACY helps the downtrowden and less
fortunate and STOPS MASSACRES. Remember Hitler and Poland, no one wanted to do anything not
even
Chamberlain and his british citizesn.. we all know what happened next.....WW2....
OBAMA MUST ACT NOW FOR THE SYRIAN PEOPLE AND THE WORLD NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, we must not forget that these are the same people who burned our flag and danced in the streets on September 11th.
WHAT , WHO IS AMERICA? WE CARE about freedom, democracy and government for the people , by the
people and other countries who strive for same values.... we are NOT AMERICA if we DONT CARE.!!!!
FREEDOM , LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS... THAT IS WHAT SYRIA IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
WE MUST HELP THEM!!
DONT FOREGET!!! recalll... , the american civil war in 1863,. it was won by the abolition of slavery, masscres of blacks
and lynching.... the same is happening in Syria except children and whole families are dying.
ARE YOU JUST GOING TO STAND BY AND LET THIS HAPPEN.....HOPE NOT ,, THIS IS NOT AMERICA OR
HOW IT WAS CREATED OR FOUNDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
communistgs
Libya has oil, Syria does not. There's your answer.
ok, SO WE dont help the syrians avoid a massacre by despot assad... so all oppotion in syria gets
massacred. then Russia comes in as an ally to Syria's assad, then knowing that usa and canada dont care.
assad, russia and china go to yemen, saudi arabia, egypt knowing we dont care... then iran gets their nukes,
then they close the strait of hormuz, then war betweeen usa and iran starts with russia , china and syria
in the mix......then ww3......
NOW YOU KNOW WHY WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN SYRIA BACK THEN TO PROTECT BABIES AND FAMILIES
FROM BEING BOMBED!!!! BY NOW ITS TOO LATE AND WE HAVE A FULL BLOWN WW3 WITH USA ISRAEL
AND CANADA, FRANCE , ENGLAND AND GERMANY INVOLVED.
WOULD YOU NOT HAVE RATHER HELPED STOP THE BLOOD SHED IN SYRIA AND PROTECT THE INNOCENT
....HINDSIGHT IS A ...B.I T C H.....NOW IT IS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO WW3...............!!!!!!!!!!
Norm, you think because you type in all caps you are making the best point in the room. Not true.You say "WHY? Because he is the leader of our democracy and DEMOCRACY helps the downtrowden and less"... no, Democracy has never helped the down trodden or poor, it cant even do that in the United States. Democracy is simply how we elect our officials. These same officials are keeping us out of a WW3 by choosing to listen to the demands of Russia and China. But yea just keep typing in all caps people will listen to you more
Why help someone when they will just turn around and spit on us when it's all finished
Hey guys let me tell you something and is you are wrong, those people burning the american flag is only a little bunch of bad guys that form part of their governments, most of the people admire the freedom we enjoy and the deserve live free, this Assad in power is the continuation of his father regimen and is willing to kill everybody in order to keep the control, we together with the international community must act and help those people get rid of this dictator and for those who think the USA only move the army to get the oil benefit, tell me something where is the free oil we are suppose to be getting from Iraq.The freedom principle this nation was built up is what move us ,nothing else.
Kitty Genovese.
Yes Norm, we should stand aside. This is not our responsibility. Obama needs to do something? WHAT ABOUT YOU??! How much are you willing to have your taxes increased to pay for these interventions you advocate? How many family members are you willing to have die or be permanently disabled in military service? Are you willing to do yourself? Presidents do nothing but spend your money and soldiers' lives.
Norm, why are you typing in caps, you are frothing about like the village idiot. And even if we "win", whatever we might conveniently define as victory this week, how many casualties are you willing to accept? Analysts have argued that number could far exceed even Vietnam – so the question becomes, win – but at what price.
I agree, every country needs to have its Civil war. The problem with the US is we want everyone to be the way we are but as you know that is not going to happen. We need to stay out of it. In Africa they have been killing people for years and we have not done anything about it. let nature take its course. Look at Iraq and Egypt, we helped and the countries are falling apart.
hay norm America is not a democracy and syria is not our problem. you wanna help them by all means go there and help them.
duckforcover is absolutely right. Too many Americans are being shot in the back. It is a pity innocent lives are being slain in Syria but sorry no American soldier should have his blood spilled.
Exactly. Maybe Israel will help them.
who IS AMERCA, WE CARE about freedom, democracy and government for the people , by the
people and other countries who strive for same values.... we are NOT AMERICA if we DONT CARE.!!!!
FREEDOM , LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS... THAT IS WHAT SYRIA IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
WE MUST HELP THEM!!
@ Norm: I care about freedom – I could care spit about democracy. How we select our leaders is less important than that they be capable and with OUR interests at heart. Our democratic system has produced a class of leaders that most assuredly does NOT have our interests at heart – they see us as a resource to be exploited.
You are attributing your own worldview and superimposing it on the Syrians. They are not trying to achieve freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (which I assume you meant life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness). THERE CAN BE NO FREEDOM IN ISLAM. If the Sunni majority wins, they'll "elect" to wipe out Christians, Shia, and Alawite minorities.
This is not our problem – not our fight.
@RICH,
I do respect your view, , However, if we cant protect the innocent anywhere in the world, then we cant
call ourselves americans or people who view democracy as sacred...IF we do not fight for these values
whether they be in France,
Vietnam or Syria , then we will have to fight sooner or later....better sooner than later with nuclear threats...
Norm, in that case what about Congo, Rwanda (90's), other "African" countries where it is not even a vote at the UN? Too dark to SAVE huh? USA stay out of this as well
@ Norm: "if we cant protect the innocent anywhere in the world"? In all seriousness, WE CAN'T protect the innocent EVERYWHERE in the world. We must pick our battles and fight them when/where we have an interest. We have no interest in Syria.
@norm: You are a hysterical fool.
@Norm, how about head to head with Russia? China maybe? after all they have had their share of atrocities, do you know why we do not see either of them jumping into one war after another? You mention nothing of the Arab League, or the UN or NATO, why only us? I suggest you undo the flag you have veiled over your eyes, and start to think more rationally.
Its not our business!!!
way to go George the Patton!!
US should not get involved and instead use the taxpayer funds for US citizens instead of worrying about Arabs. What if Basher assad goes then we get a democratic Islamists taking over and their agenda is get rid of Israel and US citizens ...mebbe even sponsor terrorism .....never get involved in Arab politics with US taxpayer money......US citizens need their Government to spend on their citizens not some Arabs who always hate US ....everyone hates US but everyone wants to come US and settle in this great country......US should be home to only people who love it not hate it ...and want to make use or it
Let Rrussia and China protect Assad – but for a price. When we go after Iran to take-out their nukes Russia and China will stay out of it. Otherwise it will be WW III
That is the dumbest warmonger statement I've heard yet – so you think we can hit all of them? without consequences? without retaliation? Foolish, utterly foolish.
There's a difference between civil war and genocide. Civilians are being murdered daily. We have a responsibility to not let that happen.
Provided they are not our citizens; no, we don't.
Wrong. We have NO responsibility other than to help OUR OWN CITIZENS. No matter how wrong this is, it is not our concern, and should remain that way. Economic sanctions, political condemnation – those have limited effect but do not cost American taxpayer lives or money.
agree 100% NO, Obama needs to do SOMETHING NOW!
WHY? Because he is the leader of our democracy and DEMOCRACY helps the downtrowden and less
fortunate and STOPS MASSACRES. Remember Hitler and Poland, no one wanted to do anything not
even
Chamberlain and his british citizesn.. we all know what happened next.....WW2....
OBAMA MUST ACT NOW FOR THE SYRIAN PEOPLE AND THE WORLD NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
agree 100% NO, THE USA PRESIDENT MUST do SOMETHING NOW!
WHY? Because he is the leader of our democracy and DEMOCRACY helps the downtrowden and less
fortunate and STOPS MASSACRES. Remember Hitler and Poland, no one wanted to do anything not
even
Chamberlain and his british citizesn.. we all know what happened next.....WW2....
OBAMA MUST ACT NOW FOR THE SYRIAN PEOPLE AND THE WORLD NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, Joe, there is bloody difference! And you are obviously ignorant of what this difference is! So why would not you do a service to yourself and people around and would not look it up in Wikipedia? Here, specially for you in siple terms: Genocide – Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopediasimple.wikipedia.org/wiki/GenocideCached
Genocide is the crime of killing many people who are all part of one ethnic group, religious group, or some sort of similar group, and trying to destroy that group.
Where do you see the Genocide in Syria? So far even CNN could find nothing to report on actual Genocide. All it does it talks about armed rebels attacking government military and police and those retaliating. Or opposite. And with civil collateral damage and all: it is more like civil war, is it? Do you want me to look up the definition of a civil war for you?
Andrey clearly you know vocabulary but do you know current events? Syrian brutal crackdown on its own citizens started before the Libyan intervention. At first it was a protest. Assad sent the military forces/police forces to a district where he assumed was where the majority of the protesters came from. And just started shooting down everyone that came across their path. There ARE worse cases of genocide and this is still in its early stages... but with Russia and China backing them, even specifically Iran, there's no way it's NOT a genocide.
How is it not a genocide? You put the definition up yourself. Group of people being killed for no good reason. They didn't commit a crime. It goes further than just civilians being caught in a crossfire between the military and the rebel group. The opposition came AFTER military personnel defected when they witnessed countless civilians being killed off the streets like how Kings used to send royal guards to massacre and wipe out the slums for a poor thief's sins. THAT IS GENOCIDE. I guess you're one of those useless drones this country produces. The ones who can't think for yourself and analyze a situation but will just regurgitate information from wikipedia.
Joe: WHY do we have a responsibility not to let murder happen in other countries? Unlike you, I don't think the U.S. has any responsibility whatever to prevent adverse events, even mass murder, in other countries. There are situations when the U.S. may choose to intervene, but that is an option we choose (usually unwisely), not a responsibility we have. There's a difference.
IFor those who do NOT want the USA to help the people of Syria, you need to ask yourself a simple question... IF you had been the US president in 1938, would you have come to the help of the 6 million Jews in Europe when the Holocost began OR waited until 1945 when the camps were closed ??? History DOES repeat itself and we as American need to ask ourselves how important our VALUES are.
How do you propose we help? We are deeply in debt. We are dealing with lack of health care, people starving at home, losing their homes, unemployed. They just don't make good news.
And how to help. Arm the insurgents? Isn't that how Osama Bin Laden started?
Of course we want to help, but which group should we deny at home?
The money sunk into a dragged out war could have taken care of our needy. Now we have debt plus more in need.
And what about the famines in East Africa. Why only help Syria? We physically cannot help,everyone and of course it tears at our consciences.
The tragic part is, if everyone just I'd something to help all these problems, they would diminish.
How can we help without making everything worse unless the entire world commits resources ?
No we don't. we're not the World's Cop. Let's fix this nation first
After Rwanda everyone said never again and yet these people are being slaughtered and the only thing any one does is discuss it. If anyone thinks its not our job to help these people you are no better than a person walking by someone being stabbed or attacked and doing nothing. Hopefully you will never be in need of help and the person walking by says oh well not my problem.
America murdered hundreds of thousand of innocent people in Iraq and still continue to kill and maim thousands of innocent and defenseless women and children thru its occupation of Afghanistan and the use of assassination drones in Pakistan and else where.What is the world saying about this?
This is all deswigned to lead us towards war with Iran and from there WWIII. The propaganda from the military industrial complex's mouthpiece the corporate wh*re media is getting absurd. For any of you that want war with Iran or military involvement in Syria I say go down to your local recruiting station and enlist if you believe in war so strongly. The rest of us are sick of sending our families and friends off to die for the military industrial complex.
Talking in terms of the "military industrial complex" instead of the US or Democracy or America shows that you are nothing more than an orwellian conspiracy theorist.
The press motive is money and viewers and without evidence that there is control, there's no way to back up claims of a military industrial complex preparing the populace for a warlike mentality to preserve profit. Stop reading 'Modern Milita' magazine...
"there's no way to back up claims of a military industrial complex preparing the populace for a warlike mentality to preserve profit. Stop reading 'Modern Milita' magazine..."
No way to back it up? Have you had your head in the sand?
While I think the poster might have been on drugs way over his level, HA25 it is YOU that ought to read EISENHOWER that first warned of that military-industrial complex. I dont share the poster's view that they initiate war, but they are opportunists – and we have the two wars to show it.
Wrong. TO whom much is given much is expected. This nation has to do something about what is going on there. TO allow this leader to kill his own people is not what is expected of us. How many lives will be lost every time we sit by and do nothing. You can best believe that Iran will at this time retaliate against the US and Israel both for the sanctions, as well as for the perceived systematic killing of its scientist by using the Hezbollah and other means of retaliation.
This is when the chess board must be reset and prepare for any possible move by this axis of evil.
Post a frigate, destroyer and sub in the strait of Hormuz along with a carrier with stealth bombers with the new bunker busters and a few drones. Then seek permission form Saudi to launch a few drones from their to strike Syria hard. ANy move by Iran or Syria should then be met with a blistering response targeting the regimes in both countries. A signal must be sent to Russia and China.
Secretar of State Clinton should also use this opportunity to show the Islamic countries in Africa where both China and Russia are doing business to show them what these two countries are doing. She should make a point to appeal to moderate muslims that these countries are condoning the killing of fellow muslims in Syria, and make a point to show what they have done against muslims in their own countries.
This should also be used to then get these African countries to kick out the Chinese and Russians form their countries and launch a new initiative similar to what was done in Australia and enhanced a renewed Asian initiative. Draw the noose around the neck of Iran during this time and if they make any wrong moves use the stealths to remove the nuke facilities deep in the mountains.
ummmm... exactly who are intending to target with your drone attack? You have a way to distinguish who is who, and have no concern that innocent civilians aren't in harm's way there? The potential for disaster is incredible... not at all a good idea
And exactly how would doing all of that stop the Syrian regime from killing its own people? Assad has 400,000 boots on the ground. Doing a stealth bomber flyover and parking even a carrier group in Hormuz is going to do exactly nothing to stop him. The only thing that's going to do that is an opposing army. The Syrian military opposition is nowhere near as organized as Libya's was, so we'll have no help from that quarter. That means ... a lengthy occupation. Against an Arab dictator's fractious country. That borders on Iran. That will attract tons of terrorists sponsored by Iran. With Iran and the Saudis being the prime beneficiaries of the whole mess. With us holding the bag and paying the bills. Again. I think I'll take a pass on being the sucker this time.
Keith: You have an optimistic view of what American saber-rattling can achieve.
Te is quite correct, I hope that number sinks in for the warmongers. 400,000 friggin boots on the ground, and these are not "dumb camel jockeys". They have some of the densest air defense shields anywhere, whose going to fly through that, you? Occupy Syria ? prepare to put 1M boots on the ground for a decade.
I totally agree, We have lost to many lives dipping in other countries affairs. I understand why our president said what he said when he said it, However, at this point we have our own private battles/ wars we have to bring to a resolve.
we not only have a smart president but a GREAT PRESIDENT.
Why doesn't the Arab league step up and deal with this? They will be the first ones to complain if America intervenes. Saudi Arabia needs to USE all of that military hardware that we have been selling them and quit relying on us to fix all of their problems.
Right on, George! It's the United Nation's responsibilities, not the USA. If the UN didn't do anything then so be it thanks to Russia and China's vetos. As a law-abiding American, we want a full protection from our government, not appeasing to enemies. Why throwing our tax $$$$ to other countries even they despise and loath us.
NOT ONLY DOES THE USA HAVE TO INTERVENE, BUT IF RUSSIA AND CHINA OBJECTS THEN DEAL WITH
THEM AS SELL....WE CANNOT STANDBY AND LET INNOCENT CHILDREN AND ELDERLY SYRIANS BE
DECIMATED AND MASSACRED BY SYRIAN BOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quite wrong, norm. Not only have we no business in Syria but have the moral obligation to stay out of it altogether. Neither Barack Obama nor Hilary Clinton have the moral authority to judge Bashar al-Assad, let alone trying to take him out!!!
I agree with you 100% Norm. It is our responsibility as HUMAN BEINGS to save the lives of the terrified babies, children, women and men, grandparents and families who are being slaughtered. It really is so sad that most of the people who are commenting – are doing so with justifications of money?! and "tax payers dollar"?! I truly feel sad for your hearts and for those of your families. Were the tables turned – as no doubt one day they may – you yourselves, will be posting videos on youtube and begging for someone to come in and save your children if no one else. And God willing – there will be someone out there who has compassion and mercy in their hearts.. If there are too many people who take your position, then you and your family will wait to die just like these people now.I do NOT believe for a second that you seriously believe you are above anyone else on this planet – bc it is in that very moment that you are beneath all of us.
What a great idea!! . . . if Russia and China get in the way, we'll just blow them up too. Why hasn't President Obama thought of that? . . . World War Three would be a small price to pay over a tiny, ruthless, oil-less, thankless piece of dirt called Syria.
Each of us, George, has the moral imperative to provide for the continuation of our family, our region, country, people and planet. Would you argue that our neighboring town could tear itself to pieces and we would do nothing? The line of town or country is man-made and artificial. They are only good so long as they can be defended and supported by the people. If there is someone like al-Assad who clearly represents a threat to our survival and advancement then we have the moral authority. This is why we create police and military forces beholden to the voting public.
Your line of thinking has a word – isolationism. And it's never benefitted the US in the long run.
"It really is so sad that most of the people who are commenting – are doing so with justifications of money?! and "tax payers dollar"?! I truly feel sad for your hearts and for those of your families. "
Then go enlist and put your money where your mouth is. what the hell do you not understand about this nation being BROKE
Norm, you are really becoming unhinged, have you had a cat scan. Serious? China and Russia, is their any countries you DONT want to bomb? How bout Belgium – they're chocolate is a little bitter.
what is AMERCA made OF, WE CARE about freedom, democracy and government for the people , by the
people and other countries who strive for same values.... we are NOT AMERICA if we DONT CARE.!!!!
FREEDOM , LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS... THAT IS WHAT SYRIA IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
WE MUST HELP THEM!!
Norm, by the way you write, I think you spit when you talk.
Norm this world has always had conflict of this nature and much worse in Africa. If the UN won't do anything why should we. We are hated around the world for enforcing our values on people we don't understand. It's time we have leadership that protects the United States and stops losing American lives for people who will turn on us because we don't value their beliefs. We can't help what we dont understand. Let them hate us for our freedom, not because we play big brother when we feel like it. Why aren't the other arab nations doing anything? Shouldn't they be the first to respond? So much for brotherhood in war. We need to stay out of it. It's just that simple
Norm, unless you have read one of the rebels posts here, you are clueless. He calls President Obama a liar. They are interested in installing the Muslim brotherhood.. The Muslim brotherhood considers Americans infidels. They will come back and kill us later....just like Egypt,just like Libya...the rebels are not are allies they are our enemies.
@Norm, you sound like a crazy nut yourself with your rants. Haven't you learned the cost silly wars and trying to take down a leader of country simply ‘cos you disagree with their policies? If Pres. Obama decides to go in you will be first to complain of your stupid Tax $$$'s going to waste. Not only that, you would be calling him a secrete terrorist muslim in the White House forgetting that NO muslim would like to have their children in this case daughters baptized to the Christian Faith and in a Christian Church. Also, you will falsely accuse him of everything under the sun coupled with your deceitful arguments that your Taxes have gone up under Pres. Obama when know deep in your soul that's a complete LIE and FALSE. Pres. Obama took down the most TERRORIST on the planet in recorded human history and what did he get in return? NOTHING!
Just weeks ago some EVIL jew(s) publicly wanted Pres. Obama assassinated; we didn't read any post(s) or comment(s) from you condemning such evil actions by evil jews in American. Were the heck were you?
REMEMBER , the american civil war in 1863,. it was won by the abolition of slavery, masscres of blacks
and lynching.... the same is happening in Syria except children and whole families are dying.
ARE YOU JUST GOING TO STAND BY AND LET THIS HAPPEN.....HOPE NOT ,, THIS IS NOT AMERICA OR
HOW IT WAS CREATED OR FOUNDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Civil war was in America. Syria is not in America. America does not go into Syria.
Che is an idiot.
America has never been altruistic when it comes to Muslims or the oppressed.America only .intervene when its strategic interest or partner is at risk. For america interest first before value. That's why America is and has always been popular with tyrants and dictators as long as they remain loyal.
NOT AMERICA talking... America became great because we care about other countries...we cared
about countries who have despots at the helm.. we care about people, dying children, families with
only freedom, and the pursuit of happiness as we do in america...MARK MY WORDS....AMERICA AS A
ONCE GREAT NATION... BECAUSE OF CARING... WILL BE WIPED OUT THE MAP ,,,,IF IF IT CONTINUES THIS
PATH OF NON CARING....WHAT THE HELL ARE WE WAITING FOR... LETS GO AND FIGHT THESE BLOODYH
SYRIANS THAT ARE KILLING INNOCENT CHILDREN....AND OTHER FAMILIES WHERE THE AMERICAN OLD
GREAT GUTS??????????????????????????????????????????????????
hey Norm, feel free, go right ahead. I don't feel that this is worth my kid's lives.
there are approximately 200 nations on the Earth......why doesnt one of the other 199 step up?
Why is this always OUR problem? how about Russia, China, the Saudis, the Arab League, or all those moderate Muslims we are always hearing about do it? oh yean, one more thing, WE ARE BROKE!!!!
Norm, you really need to try not to let emotion govern your reasoning. I believe you are viewing America through rose-colored glasses. You sound like someone who swallowed the patriotism pill they fed you when they were brainwashing you in the public education system. Get some experience and learn other viewpoints before spouting off that we have some bogus obligation to help people who wouldn't lift a finger if the roles were reversed.
Norm,
We help them and they turn against us because we are the infidels. SO....why would we help them, when they will come back and spit on us.
This isn't a civil war, this is a government using vast military sources to bombard local civilians to punish them for proximity to protesting factions. We don't need to do anything other than send cruise missles.
I 100% agree with this comment...and further elaborate on it. Why do we continue to think that this country can just waltz in and drop troops and hardware to fight against ANY country because the opposition is requesting help? Aid them with weapons is one thing...but, military intervention is another ball game. Haven't we learned anything from the Iraq war(s) or Afghanistan? The Syrians are NOT going to love us if we help them out, no more than the Iraqi's did (and dont believe the mainstream media telling us that they do). Wake up already. I hate the fact that innocent children are dying over there because of another radical leader. However, isnt ANYONE in this country sickened by the fact that our men and women are dying too in these foreign countries? Are we that numb to the reports of another soldiers death? We are always so quick to say, "Go to war"...yet, those who vote to go to war will not send their own sons or daughters to the battlefield. Its pretty easy to play God when you are not the one in a distant land dying for a cause that has NOTHING to do with the United States. Spend more money on counter-espionage, counter-terrorism, intelligence, etc...not ground wars. The American public has NO MONEY to pay for these ventures anymore, not to mention do not want our sons and daughters to be on the ground in a foreign country either. Its about time we worry about domestic affairs, and worry a lot less about Israel and her enemies...cause when it boils down to it...this is what it is all about. Russia and China will absolutely frown upon intervention, and we then may end up with a conflict with one or both of them. Does our eloquently spoken journalist think we should drop troops in Beijing or Moscow and overthrow their leaders too? The American public needs to speak up...NOW...and not let us go to war, again. Let the opposition fight the battle...let them figure out a way to overcome the odds, like our forefathers did in the 1700's. Sooner or later, one of these wars we get into because we feel we have to be a big brother will come back and haunt us. It may not be with tanks and guns...it may be with a nuclear warhead dropping from the sky on cities in the United States because we bit off more than we can chew.
I couldnt agree more. But what about all the suffering now? Should the U.s. do absolutely nothing??
To those proposing we do something, please elaborate on what.
bombing means invasion by special forces to find targets. We don't bomb blindly. And even with that civilians get killed.
Assassination. Yes we have done that. Is that what you think we as a nation should continue to do to cleanly solve problems?
Arm the insurgents? That was Osama Bin Laden. We armed him. How many died more than the original problem we fixed?
What solution is there? Why not be mad at China and Russia for arming the Syrian government?
We need the world to wake up. As long as 2 superpowers help theSyrian govt stay forcibly in power, there is not a whole lot we can really do.
Do you know how many civilians died from our help in Iraq?
Where has our intervention really helped without the help of a multinational response?
How can you live in America and be so narrow-minded? We've intervened in conflicts before that were NOT our business. We reamined silent when the Holocaust was occuring and again, we choose to remain silent. It would be very ironic if Syria got on their feet and we, Americans, were placed in a position similar to theirs.
Really? I have a Bosnian-Muslim girlfriend who's entire family is grateful that we stepped in and stopped the Bosnian war. You think all the children missing body parts and their families think we should just stand aside and observe? It's easy to say "Just stay out of it, we already have it good here. They'll just be ungrateful anyway." How privileged we are to live amongst cowards like you who just sit back and hope for the best.
Stupidity is not bravery, and declining to help is not cowardice – it is picking one's battles. This is not our fight, though I have no doubt almost as many will blame us for inaction as they would for action. That's just the Middle Eastern mindset – don't blame the killers (Muslims killing Muslims), blame Israel and the US who have nothing to do with the situation.
However, we SHOULD come out and announce that no help will be forthcoming for Syria, from us. Then the opposition can stop hoping for US intervention, and can deal with the situation based on reality. Because hope is not a plan.
The UN stepped in to Bosnia
I'm a U.S. Army vet and I'm frankly sick of seeing our military men and women dying because some group in another country revolted, then cried "where's the U.S.?" After we pour billions into the country, the revolutionists take over and declare themselves hostile to the U.S. Meantime we've lost thousands of personnel and gone into hock for them. If Danielle thinks we should be intervening, let her and her family, including kids, head to Syria.
Danielle can send her kid to save Syria, when is dthe Arab world going take responsibility for their situation, which Allah should show up, no more American's dead for this, it's an Arab community of nations that needs a kick in the .....
Not our sons and daughters, sorry, it get personal then
Indeed you are right, the current wars (Afgan & Irak) are showing that heavy weaponery can fail in civil wars and inner cities wars without gaining much support from the locals plus the "bounty" is no longer there. Two questions: 1) What do you with a country having 22% of its budget in heavy weaponery ? 2) How can Russia and China support Assad ?
People like you are the propagators of evil. It is time to get rid of the brutal Assad for the sake of humanity and global security. Once Assad is gone, the Mullahs will fall next. Enough is enough of the brutal terror and genocide being inflicted upon the Syrian people who simply want to live in freedom from the terror of Assad.
I would agree to help Syria just as soon as all those right wing conservatives pleading for another war have all their eligible 18 year old children signup for the military and lead the military into Syria. Once they start losing their children they will lose their taste for being world cops.
@norm: Note the key point from your post about 1863: AMERICAN Civil War, not Syrian. We have no obligation to police the world.
Unless we stand by and let millions be killed, what we have to do immediately is to convene NATO. Lay down that ultimatum that unless NATO intervenes immediately, we pull out. NATO's role would be to declare a no fly zone; target every location that houses an artillery(?) location and then warn that even the government is not safe if it does not call off its military. Assad would fall within a week.
It is so sad what is going on over there. . . For the love of God, DO SOMETHING TO HELP THESE PEOPLE!!
People who are saying this is not our fight and we shouldn't get involved are very shallow people with no heart. They obviously are the type of people who would walk by a gang of bullies picking on a weak kid and pretend they saw nothing. Is that what America has become? (pretend to see nothing and do nothing)
World leaders need to do something and they need to do it now or the innocent blood of women and children is on their hands too.
Good thinking! All good Americans should think wisely to protect this great country from being robbed by the capitalist Arm dealers and who care less about our citizens. The tax money should be spent on Americans who lost their homes, Healthcare, Jobs and Families. What the H… did we get from going into Iraq????? And what the H… are we gaining from being in Afghanistan ???. The real problems are here not abroad. !!!!!!
Agreed. We do NOT need to dragged into the SYRIAN QUAGMIRE. We do not need another war. We need to help some poor, pay off some debts, and stay out of the eastern hemisphere's mess. Open our history books, read up on the Monroe Doctrine, and abide by it.
Awww yes just listen to that good old tune called war propaganda it's so soothing to the ears. Listen close and you will be able to hear the soothing sounds of nature.
Syria is about Mossad and US snipers killing innocent civilians. It is a foreign funded civil war. The Billions of US tax money which disappeared in the bailouts, is now appearing, as funding these Libyan, Egypt, Syrian "rebellions". Everybody knows this. Get some Israeli Jews and say "want to go kill some Arabs", come with us to Syria, we'll set you up on rooftops, we'll organize the Facebook "gatherings", you just shoot them.
Bravo George, you are the only one with some sense. Leave the Syrans handle their own crisis. No foreign intervention of any sort will stop the killing very quickly, because the only solution left for them is to talk and iron their differences peacefully.
Why should the US get involved? Just send aid and let the UN handle the on ground part of it. The US can ill afford another "Intervention", the Syrians and other ME countries will more than likely turn on our troops in a few months anyway.
Obama plz dont help Syria bcz they don't have minerals & a los project for you! rather than think to help oil richIran plz.
Kill them all. Syria hated the jews before all this started in their country, Syria hated the USA , For all I care they can just
kill each other who cares
What does the Arab League recommend we do? We should be happy to oblige.
Maybe, but only limited involvement. Unless they pay a heavy price they won't understand that totalitarian governments don't work. Sorry it has to be this way.
Don't instructions form some islamic mullahs, unless you want them to control your household and impose upon you that your daughter(s) have NO BIRTH RIGHT to be educated in their primitive crazy society other than submissive to impotent men gowns.
We will this time let them handle their own issues.
Obama in an election year will not get involved in any war, and I mean in no war if he wants to be a candidate of the Democratic Party.
For your info , we the citizens of this great country are sick and tired of wasting our hard earned dollars on some meaningless police actions and tribal wars.
You couldn't have SAID it better!
You made all Americans proud by your post or comments.
It's time for the World to tell these muslims to learn to grow up and take responsibility. I ain't sending my son to fight in any silly war and on behalf of muslims. NEVER!
A leader knows the answer to the question he asks before he asks it. The question is merely a measure of feeling out where the audience is on the question.
Hey, the President of United States of America, Pres. Obama does NOT take his instructions from some crazy Arab League of impotent men in gowns.
why Obama and CNN news are wrong
SYRIAN BASHAR AL ASAD GET HELPED, MONEY AND WEAPONS NOT FROM RUSSIA ALONE
BUT FROM IRAQI GOVERNMENT NORI AL MALEKI THE SHIIA PUPPET REGIME BACKED BY EVIL IRAN, AND IRAN PROVIDE MORE CASH AND WEAPONS
TO MILITIA, IRAQ , IRAN AND HEZBOLLAH SENDING SHIIA THUGS AND KILLERS TO FIGHT ALONG SIDE BASHAR AL .
SO
SO WHAT WE CAN DO WE MUST ATTACK HEZBOLLAH NOW RUSSIAN DONT CARE, ATTACK AND REMOVE NORI AL MALEKI IN IRAQ AND GET BALANCED IRAQI GOVERNMENT, WATCH IRAN BY DRAW PLAN AND ATTACK ANY WEAPON SHIPMENT CROSS TO SYRIA FROM IRAQ AND MAKE SURE IRAQ RESPECT THE ECONOMIC SANCTION AGAINST SYRIA.
UN, RUSSIA AND CHINA WILL PAY THE BLOOD OF CIVILIANS IN THERE HANDS.
10,000 ALREADY BEEN KILLED BY BASHAR AL KALB OF SYRIA , WHO IS GETTING WEAPONS FROM RUSSIA AND MONEY FROM IRAN AND MILITIA FROM IRAQ.THOSE EVIL SHIIA THUGS MUST BE EMANATED ALONG WITH RUSSIAN INTERESTS AND THERE EMBASSIES .
Is swine crazy lunatic, idiots like you that the World should be weary and afraid of. You sound as crazy and evil as the man in your psycho mind you want the US to overthrow whilst you cowardly hide in your impotent muslim gown. Swine, we didn't hear you whine of some blood on your hands when your muslim brotherhood brothers kidnapped and killed America and Int'l Aid workers? Take your psycho Meds. your doctor prescribed for you and go to sleep. Hey you can hang yourself if you want to. The World will be a better place without you.
10,000 Syrien ignorent people killed by U S tactics.U N is the messenger for U S. In my verdict U S is becoming dictator for democracy World.Please do the peaceful way with out U S enterfear in Syrian crices.
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..............GEORGE PATTON U R WRONG
PEOPLE LIKE YOU CHICKENED OUT WHEN HITLER DID THE SAME AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU SAID THE SAME
UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE, DONT WAIT FOR THE EVIL TO COME TO YOUR HOME RA....PE YOU MOM AND SISTERS AND KILL YOUR BROTHER THEN YOU ACT , WAKE UP...USA IS GREAT BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CARE AND STAND FOR FREEDOM AND THOSE ARE THE REPUBLICANS , DEMOCRATS ARE COWERED AND COMMUNISTS AGENDA LINED WITH RUSSIA.
Excellentg point! The USA is a great country, because it was born out of greatness.... A greatness to say no to a dictator.... And that's what the people of the arabm african and asian world are doing.
Please don't try to compare Syria with the Hitler regime! Not even a comparison there. We got involved with that war because Hitler wanted to take over Europe, but I'm not seeing Syria trying to take over the European continent at this time.
لن تتحول سوريا إلى كوريا شمالية أخرى
لأننا نحن الثوار عقدنا العزم على اجتثاث الطاغية وطغيانه. قد يستطيع الروس مده بالمال والسلاح لتأخير سقوطه المدوي. لكنهم لن يستطيعوا أن ينقذوه من هذا السقوط الذي يقترب مع كل مجزرة يرتكبها في سوريا.
درعا مهد الثورة السورية 18 03 2011
كم أنتم كاذبون. من أردوغان الى أوباما. أولم يقل أردوغان أنه لن يسمح بحمامات دم في سورية. أين هو الأن أم أنه رضخ للأمر الواقع ومصالحه الضيقة. لا شيئ يمكن أن يبرر السكوت عن حمامات الدم في سورية. نحن نقتل على يد عصابة لا تعرف ربا ولا ينا ولا انسانية وأنتم تلعبون على الوقت صعودا وهبوطا. نحن ما عدنا نريد تدخلا ولا قرارات ولا مؤتمرات من يريد المساعدة فليعطنا سلاحا ندافع به عن أنفسنا لأننا قد حسمنا أمرنا.
الغرب وسوء نيته
من ردود الفعل الغاضبة والمقهورة من الغرب وامريكا بعد الفيتو المزدوج ان الغرب كان ينوي التدخل العسكري تحت غظاء قانوني بقرار من مجلس الامن. وطبعا الفيتوافسد عليهم خططهم ولذلك هم يلطمون ليل نهار ويذرفون دموع التماسيح على الشعب السوري وحريته وديمقراطيته وحتى دمائه التي سفكها الارهاب.يقول الغرب انه قدم تنازلات وتطمينات لروسيا بعدم التدخل العسكري ولكن في القرار ثقرات خطيرةبها يمكن استخدام القوة ولذلك اصرت روسيا باضافة فقرات تمنع القوة وهم رفضوا وطرحوا القرار للتصويت ظنا ان روسيا ستتراجع في اخر لحظة
شكراً قطر و شكراً للشيخ حمد.. شكراً من القلب من معظم الشعب السوري. و لكننا ننتظر منك و من جميع الاخوة العرب و المسلمين اكثر من ذلك. الشعب السوري يقتل بدم بارد من قبل النظام ، نحن نريد مناطق عازلة و دعما ماديا و طبياً ، و الشعب السوري لن ينسى لكم ذلك و سيكون ديناً في اعناقنا .. و اما نظام الاسد فهو ساقط ساقط بإذن الله
What.
According to Google translation, it says:
Syria will not turn into another North Korea
For we are the rebels are determined to root out the tyrant and tyranny. May be able to Russians for money and weapons to delay the fall resounding. But they will not be able to Enqdhuh of approaching this fall with every massacre committed in Syria.
Shield the cradle of the Syrian Revolution 18 032 011
How much you are liars. From Erdogan to Obama. Do they not say that Erdogan will not allow the blood baths in Syria. Where is it now or is it bowed to the inevitable and narrow interests. Nothing can justify silence on the bloodshed in Syria. We kill by a gang do not know the Lord nor yen nor humane and on the time you are playing up and down. We are what we promised not want interference from the decisions of conferences and wants to help him defend Vlietna weapon for ourselves because we have settled the matter of ours.
West and ill-intention
Of angry reactions and oppressed from the West and America after the double veto that the West was planning military intervention under Gzae legal decision of the Security Council. And, of course Alvioavsd them their plans and so they are beating our day and night and shed crocodile tears on the Syrian people, freedom and democracy and so severely injured that Svkha terrorism. West says he made concessions and assurances to Russia not to interfere with the military, but in the resolution Thagrat Khtirahibha can use force and that Russia insisted the addition of a provision that prohibits force and they refused to and put forward the resolution to a vote, thinking that Russia would fall at the last moment
Thank you and thank Qatar Sheikh Hamad .. Thank you from the heart of most of the Syrian people. But we are waiting for you and all the brothers of Arabs and Muslims more than that. The Syrian people are killed in cold blood by the system, we want to buffer zones and material support and medically, and the Syrian people will never forget that and you will have in our heads .. And The Assad regime is fallen fallen, God willing,
I know, I think Kim is the most overrated Kardashian too.
This is America! We write in English here not your chicken scratch!
Wrong, Eddie! This is the INTERNET where ALL people have access. What a small and narrow-minded world you live in.
Quiet you pampered waste.
Eddie, please stop making Americans look so stupid.
"This is America!! We drink Budweiser and watch NASCAR! None of that ching-chang talkin around here, partner. Where's my cousin?"
That's what everyone thinks when you say that.
BTW I'm American.
I translated what the person said in arabic to english. Here it is:
Syria will not turn into another North Korea
For we are the rebels are determined to root out the tyrant and tyranny. May be able to Russians for money and weapons to delay the fall resounding. But they will not be able to Enqdhuh of approaching this fall with every massacre committed in Syria.
Shield the cradle of the Syrian Revolution 18 032 011
How much you are liars. From Erdogan to Obama. Do they not say that Erdogan will not allow the blood baths in Syria. Where is it now or is it bowed to the inevitable and narrow interests. Nothing can justify silence on the bloodshed in Syria. We kill by a gang do not know the Lord nor yen nor humane and on the time you are playing up and down. We are what we promised not want interference from the decisions of conferences and wants to help him defend Vlietna weapon for ourselves because we have settled the matter of ours.
West and ill-intention
Of angry reactions and oppressed from the West and America after the double veto that the West was planning military intervention under Gzae legal decision of the Security Council. And, of course Alvioavsd them their plans and so they are beating our day and night and shed crocodile tears on the Syrian people, freedom and democracy and so severely injured that Svkha terrorism. West says he made concessions and assurances to Russia not to interfere with the military, but in the resolution Thagrat Khtirahibha can use force and that Russia insisted the addition of a provision that prohibits force and they refused to and put forward the resolution to a vote, thinking that Russia would fall at the last moment
Thank you and thank Qatar Sheikh Hamad .. Thank you from the heart of most of the Syrian people. But we are waiting for you and all the brothers of Arabs and Muslims more than that. The Syrian people are killed in cold blood by the system, we want to buffer zones and material support and medically, and the Syrian people will never forget that and you will have in our heads .. And The Assad regime is fallen fallen, God willing,
In my opinion, ANYONE who thinks the killings should stop should grow a pair and step in! They need help! We can't just sit around waiting for the entire free syrian army to be destroyed for us to finally move in. Give them weapons! Give them medical attention! Give them HELP! We went in immediately once Gadhafi starting killing Libyans, so why can't we here?!? This is wrong, and Al-Assad is using the excuse "they are terrorists" to save his regime by killing all of them, when they aren't terrorists and are just people fighting for freedom! Isn't that what the United States, India, Libya, and so many other countries did at one point? It's time to take action and help.
Did you use the google translator? Because much of this is nonsense.
Yaba daba dooh? I dont understand. What is he trying to say?
Now I ask you, who can argue with that?
Ibbiddy jibbiddy diibidy eh?
yipiddy skippidy nippity do.
Sim sala bim
I feel the same way you do about this but you should do a spell check .
There's a typo. Second paragraph, third line.
أغلق يمارس الجنس مع ما يصل معتوه.
What's this nonsense?
You're asking Americans to use a toothpick to help you plant your garden?
FACTS UNDISPUTED: your so-called religion of islam enslaves you NOT to DARE learn the language of the outside World so that you can convey your thoughts should the need arises.
So far it's paying out pretty good for ya! Deal with it and leave Pres. Obama ALONE!
You feel me? Insha allah (إن شاء الله).
It is not up to America to help every time. It is up to the world to help every time. The problem is that every time America gets involved in a revolution the result never comes to be what is expected. You, the rebels, expect help, but what we get is a Muslim brotherhood that scoffs at America, because you believe we are infidels. You call the President a liar. Yet he has helped Egypt and Libya for what result. Why would America help you if you do not respect us or you scoff at us once we have helped you succeed in your revolution and you will come back and spit upon us. Nevermore!
الامر ليس متروكا لأميركا للمساعدة في كل وقت. والأمر متروك للعالم للمساعدة في كل وقت. المشكلة هي انه في كل مرة تتدخل أمريكا في ثورة النتيجة لا يأتي أبدا أن يكون ما هو متوقع. أنت والمتمردين، ونتوقع مساعدة، ولكن ما نحصل عليه هو جماعة الاخوان المسلمين مسلم أن يسخر من أمريكا، لأنك تعتقد أننا الكفار. استدعاء رئيس كاذب. ومع ذلك فقد ساعد في مصر وليبيا لماذا النتيجة. لماذا أمريكا مساعدتك اذا كنت لا تحترم لنا أو لكم يسخرون منا بعد أن نكون قد ساعد على النجاح في ثورة بك، وسوف نعود ويبصقون علينا. بعد اليوم أبدا!
أكل خره يا حمار
I disagree with the article. Although atrocities are being committed it's the responsibility of the Muslim nations to step in, not ours. I wouldn't want my son defending their freedom because ultimately whatever regime will be in Syria they're gonna choose allegiance to Islam over being an ally to the US and our way of life. I wish them well.
Who cares if they choose allegiance to Islam?! That's like saying, if for instance, we here in the US were being tortured and killed and the Muslim nations said, "Eh, let the western countries take care of them, I wouldn't want my son defending them because they will chose allegiance to...(Oh let's say christianity) over being an ally to us Muslims and OUR way of life." You sound like a snobby punk. You don't want to help someone cause their religion and their way of life isn't like YOURS? Get over yourself.
My son is a US Marine. I in no way want him dying for these people. Let Israel help them. Let them ask the Jews for help if it doesn't matter. Help is help. They need to get over themselves, and so do you;)
Melanie, you should get over yourself, condescending b!tch. Go sign your fat ass up and get your boots on the ground first. Like them muslims care about you..
Melanie, that's a great point. And to August Washington, your son is a marine. You are not. He signed up to be the best for his country. SO regardless of what your beliefs, he's serving his COUNTRY. Not a certain agenda.
And Sconnie, a short reply is all you deserve. Half your words were curses.
Problem is, Melanie, I believe the WOULD let us burn. And they'd jump for joy and shout Allahu Akbar all the while. So no – it's their mess, let them fix it.
That's exactly what they would say dummy
@Melanie – Do you have children? Do you have any sons and daughters in the military? If you have them, but they are not in the military...GO SIGN THEM UP. Oh, gosh darn...I forgot...OUR MILITARY IS A VOLUNTARY BASED MILITARY. So even your children have a right (until they do a draft) to refuse to go.
I can assure you...our men and women in uniform did NOT sign up to go to war for someone else's problems. You have a right to feel the way you do...but, those who are dying that wear our uniform have an ABSOLUTE right to refuse! Stop using religion as a soap box to stand on and try to convince us we should go to war again. Let the Muslim nations roll their tanks (with bling from all money we pay them for the oil they sell us) into Syria and force Assad out!
It's not our responsibility to engage in everything. I feel for them but, we do not need to be part of this.
You are absolutly right they will be on the side of Islam over the US so Islam needs to help them!!!
This is heading towards a armed confrontation. I hope things get resolved peacefully, but if not it wud be best to assassinate the Syrian president and let people take over than have another war.
No not get involved here!
Would you like it if someone or your next door neighbor advocates for your assassination simply 'cos you two hate each other or ‘cos I said so? I bet you're one of those so-called Fake American Sunday Christians in drags. You wish death upon someone; therefore the SAME death should come to you FIRST. How does that sound?
and what has been the result of interference so far?
America helped people of Bosnia and Kosovo and saved them from Serbian slaughter.
America gave Afghan kids better hospitals, now Afghan girls can go to school.
America reduced the insurgency in Iraq and topple a bloodthirsty murderer called Saddam Hussein.
America helped the Libyans overthrow a dictator who ruled over them for 40 years and he was going to wipe out Benghazi.
America is not a force of evil, it is a force of good.
Intervening is the right thing to do. Iran will be weakened by this.
God gave America strength, no one in the world can match it.
Please do not leave thousands of Syrian children asking for help.
With great strength comes great responsibility.
Oh will you knock it off. Our "president" needs to grow a pair. In addition, how can Hillary find the enemy if she cant even find her own husband?
Fartright, someone needs to fart right in your mouth!
With China and Russia protecting Syria, we can expect Assad to continue the bloodshed and murder of his own citizens, unless the west is willing to step in.
Right! And honestly that is the only reason why the US does not want to get involved without the entire UN. We are considered allies of both China and Russia but our relationship with both is and will probably be forever strained. We have too much riding on keeping peace with both Russia and China to intervene with Syria... who's people probably celebrated the attacks on 9/11 as they did in Afghanistan and Iraq yet cry for American help when they can't resolve their own disputes.
Why is the burden ALWAYS on the WEST a.k.a USA? I don't hear the Pope of people speak out?
In answer to this article, it has a lot of misinformation, number one, it has nothing to do with us, it is an internal affair, if we are so concerned about civilians being killed, why are we allowing tens of thousands of Mexicans being killed and nothing gets done. And about the other African countries that killed millions of their own people and we didn't do anything either.
We are not the world policemen, we made a lot of mistakes getting involved in Iraq and Afghanistan, and we are serious about assisting other countries with military force, reintroduce the draft, so some rich parent's kids will to go to war and not just the poor ones. Let's stop this nonsense in helping the poor Syrians or anybody else, if they want to have a revolution, so be, but, don't ask us to get involved.
Thank you for your inside and comparisons!
It's very simple. According to Senator Al Franken , if it's bad for mexico,it's bad for mexicans.
The woman who wrote this has no credibility at all.
I am horrified that CNN is posting her ideas. There is an explanation of who she is at the top but it should be in all red capitals headlined with WARNING.
She is an extremist. It is good to see she is getting the response she did here.
Lets remember one thing. If Israel attack Iran which I doubt it, Syria will support Iran . Assad has said that if any foreign intervention he has his missiles aimed at Tel-Aviv and the airport. If Obama does come to the assistance of the Syrian people it must be without the knowledge of the Russians and the Chinese, and that will be impossible. And besides even if he can its an election year, they'll be out of luck. And there is a trace of Iranian support militarily in the fighting. We just better off stay out of it.
Good point. Syria and Iran have a mutual defense pact – if we engage in Syria directly, it's the same as going into Iran. Perhaps that's the actual reason some are pushing us towards attacking Syria.
Of course it is. The article makes it clear also. This is a humanitarian issue but also aligns with our strategic interests. If al-Assad is not in charge of Syria, there's a chance Syria won't back up Iran which isolates them further, and may prevent the Next Big War *WHEN* Israel goes after Iran. Iran may just collapsse like Syria and maybe, just maybe, the Middle East (like Russia) will become modern and democratic on it's own without further *major* conflict.
I don't see that same issue in Mexico or Africa. Nor have Somalians, for example, shown the resolution to stand up to their dictators like at least some Syrians have.
This female fool needs to realize that America does not need to get involved here. This broad is completely off the deep end for suggesting this country should be engaged. Look Danielle sit down an shut up, apparently you have never learned from our country's stupid past mistakes. You are wet behind the ears and have very little experience in living the past.
I love this article. Very well written and President Obama's quote at the end of the article drove home the point. It's not even about what we did in the past and with who but what we, as people should do now, in the name of our humanity. Everything we do and don't do, reflects on who we are... So think about humanity... and ask yourself if you think these people deserve help from more fortunate people and countries.
Dear American Muslim,
A muslim is a muslim whether American or not. They have been UNGRATEFUL to America and laugh each time the west loses a precious soldier protecting the muslim backed Taliban. They hate America and you, as a muslim is appealing for western help so you can get freedom to stab American in the back. An average muslim will say that America is intervening either because of OIL or to protect their own interest even when America is clearly acting in good faith. Please ask the Arab League to form an army to protect its kind cos the muslim will ALWAYS remain ungrateful to American
What exactly are your (insert: religious beliefs and cultural stereotype) and in which way do they make you beneficial to Uncle Sam? The World? What value derives from your condescending opinion about 1.8 million Americans?
What is the possibility that some of your ancestry includes people of Muslim decent? By your logic, being UNGRATEFUL then would be natural for you.
Not one American life or penny should be thrown away for these ungrateful muslims anymore.
Right on.
Cute and straight to the point!
No messing around.
Obama is a bag of wind, not one campaign promise kept and giving nine trillion to Help bail out the Euro and another four trillion to the very same people who created the financial mess we are in. To hell with Syria and all those murderous morons, let them kill each other. We are in our own mess, we need to clean house (both of them) before we try and lead the world to where, the same place we are now? Who would want to follow us into this same pit of quick sand?
Amen brother, charity begins at home. Let the the Arab league take care of that situation and intervene on behalf of the syrian people.
A health care plan, out of Iraq, a financial rejuvenation plan (starting to work), a tangible end date in afghanistan. He kept his promises. The problem is that 3 out of 4 were cleaning up Bushes mess.
Eventually their problems reach us. Maybe a terrorist attack, maybe in the form of opium. You can let your neighbors house burn without risking your own.
cant*
CNN actually pays Danielle for writing such garbage and blatant propaganda ? The reason you are strring up the Middle East pot is to please our pimp in Middle East and get my country into insane war that most likely will mean annihilation of the Holy Land-guaranteed ! If the stupid think thanks of morons continue to advise our leaders like with Iraq that led to our bancrupcy we will implode from lack of oil. This time the stakes are much higher than 1967. Israel may try to bomb our big ships and blame on Iranians similar to what they did in 1967 with SS Liberty . In case they were losing , they would blame it on Egypt.One problem , the ship did not sink and many sailers survived to tell the thruth what happened to them. Our government told them to keep their mounths shut and our " investigative journalists"did diddly squat. Now , the media is calling for war with Iran and they think it will be a peace of cake like in 1967 to steal more land and water.I beg to differ.It will be total insanity and Israel will be no more. Just think , Natanyahu's grandfather was a Rabbi, may have lived a few bllocks from my grandmother-maybe he even bought newspapers from her near the Polish Senat in Warsaw before the war. They probably passed each other on the steet saying hello. Now his grandson wants to make the biggest mistake of his life. Why can't we live in peace ? My grandmother, very fine religious woman , I am sure would be very nice to Natanyahu's grandfather and they lived in peace. Why can't we ?
What a little mindless punk you are. Trying to tar and feather Israel by bringing up the USS Liberty has been tried and rejected. Why don't you take your slimy little anti semitic butt over there and fight against the Al Assad goons yourself. Israel is our best ally, if anyone is a pimp, it's probably your dad.
Why is it that when someone critizes Isreal that they are branded antisemitic. They did infact attack the USS liberty in broad day light after sending at least two recons over the ship. How can an experienced military pilot confuse a converted freigther with an armed crusier. Don't let a a major cover up by Isreal and the U S government be confused with justice. Lets make no mistake, isreal has been living in fear of its neighbors since their begaining. They know that there would be no Isreal if it weren't for the U S. An that's why it has been said numerous times that Isreal has a real strong lobby in D.C., maybe to Strong. When our politicians are more concerned with the welfare of Isreal then their own country, theres a problem. That excuse of supporting our allies don't hold water, They have no choice but to be our ally.
I was told once by a ranking military intell. type officer that Isreal will do anything to anybody if they feel its a threat to the state of Istreal real or imagine.
The bottomline is, just because you don't like the politics and/or the politicans of any given country doesn't mean you dislike the the country or the people in it, the U S included..
I'm so disgusted with most of the postings on this site! For one thing, how many soldiers did we lose in Lybia??? None that I'm aware of. This woman is exactly right! We should not sit back and allow things like this to happen. Not when it's an armed military against unarmed civilians. In some ways, this is worse than Libya! All we need to do is go in and bomb the hell out of the military installations and guard the routes that allow civilians to escape, because those trying to escape today are being MURDERED! Where is your compassion! We can do this with little to no loss of life and cripple Iran and other terrorist organizations. I totally agree that Iraq and Afganistan were mistakes, but this isn't and we don't even have to put soldiers on the ground to make a difference. Did we deserve to be born or imigrate to this country??? No, we were lucky enough to be born here. We are supposed to be a "nation under god" that helps people and all you people that think we should do nothing are as guilty of murder as they are... OOOH, let's save unborn fetus but who cares about people that are already born... it's okay if the die.... disgusting... You make me sick
Well I'm not against bombing them to oblivion. But no half measures.
Libya was not unarmed civilians. Iran a terrorist organization? Because I honestly think that you are a high school student, your total gullibility is not so offensive. Anyway go back to your fiddle and watch the fires.
Nero, if you are that bothered, go and enlist in the army to fight. Don't just sit there and decide who should go and die an ungrateful set of people. It's a pity that children are caught up in this mess but, unfortunately,they live amongst people who see non-muslims as infidels and will turn around to curse them once help has been administered. Go and ask the muslim brotherhood or Taliban that told the Libyans, after the west risked lives and money to help, that they should remember 'what the west represents'. Thereafter, the Libyans have turned to these fanatics instead of showing some appreciation to the west. UNGRATEFUL MUSLIMS SHOULD HELP THEMSELVES, AMERICANS DO NOT NEED THEIR OIL, THIS TIME
"It's a pity that children are caught up in this mess but, unfortunately,they live amongst people who see non-muslims as infidels and will turn around to curse them once help has been administered."
Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black.....seems to me you have labeled ALL MUSLIMS as infidels and have no problem sitting back and watching innocent children die while you tap away on your little ipad and sip coffee. YOU are in need of some help. You are the most dangerous kind of criminal. One who sees no value in human life and actually justifies it by spouting off about the extra change in your pockets. Selfish, Cold ANIMAL.
Carlina, who is killing these innocent Muslims? Other Muslims. It is not the West that are behaving like animals. This is not our fight.
Nuke 'em
Your ASS has to be NUKED First at high noon!
If that NUKE theory applies!
Nuke the entire middle east. Lets be done with them...permanently
you will be nuked when you end up in hell. have fun there
Will do. Bet you get there before me, tho...
How do you figure that? By following the bibles teachings? Yeah, you're making a lot of sense. You are just a coward.
Nero, who said I follow the bible? Not me...I'm an atheist
Lets pull all our troops home. Permanently. We can launch a bunch of cruise missles from the Med and the IO and be done with god-forsaken land. Once the dust clears, maybe we can repopulate it with pigs.
Oh mine!
Typical American craziness of Hitler's mindset at work. What the heck have you been smoking?
Let the killing continue. They are a terrorist state where the ideal population count is zero. We have to stay out of it and we will . We learned our lesson in the failed Afghan and Iraq wars. The UN is exposed as impotent and phony and Russia is still the evil Soviet Union.
When are Americans going to wake up? There will NEVER be a Democracy in the Middle East. So get over it people. Let's get the United States back on track and stop worrying about what happens in Syria. You want to know something ironic? If we the people stood up against our Government, we would also be maimed and killed.
I cannot take anymore of this ignorance, hate and cowardice being posted. I'm signing off so feel free to tell me how wrong I am. I won't ever see it. I know I'm right and so do you...
No way, dude, sit right back down and keep typing. Rule #1 of the 'net: you can't back out. You're in for the long haul. I say you'r MENDACIOUS, and a REPROBATE. Nero, you're a MENDACIOUS REPROBATE!
Goodnight, loser. Just bury your head in the sand (no pun intended) like a good little ostrich
Every single time America has tried to "help" unstable middle eastern regimes either be toppled or maintain power, it has ended in a serious backfire. We don't have an obligation to help these people.
Your right on the money Patsy
According to the GOP; Obama does nothing then he didn't do enough, Obama does something then they say he shouldn't have got involved. The GOP isn't happy whichever way he decides on Syria.
So...?
Dude, ever watch what happens when the GOP makes a decision? The Dems say the same thing...
Oh please you commenting?
Cut the crap out. Will ya?
Iraq was not a failure. Took more than expected, but we did what we set out to do - remove the Saddam threat and replace it with something we can work with. (Iraq didn't attack us - neither did Hitler) Afghanistan is not a failure either, just hard to help a backword country. Lybia was not a failure. Sure point out all and spin the negatives - but there's a greater amount of good if you open your eyes to it. We have the moral duy to help Syria. If not, then your the same person that watches someone get beat up in the street and doesn't try to help.
Hitler didnt attack us? tell that to all the merchant ships the uboats sank.
Keep your globalist agenda to your own family. Sacrifice them. It would be for the best anyways
I don't have a globalist agenda, just doing what's right versus doing what's wrong. If you saw someone in need, would you just says sorry, I don't want to interfer with you? Just cause you help someone doesn't mean you want to take over their stuff. And sure Hitler attacked our merchant ships that were aiding his enemy england - Saddam equalled that with his shooting at our aircraft for 10 years in the UN no-fly zone and an attempted assasination attempt. So Hitler probably did less to provock our attack than Iraq.
Didn't notice till now, but I don't think it's very nice say it would be for the best if my family was sacrificed. I was just giving my opinion. You need people that disagree with you, otherwise you'll be stuck with blinders on and never consider or even hear anything other than from your own thoughts.
Somebody told you wrong about Iraq; the Maliki goverment is not pro American, if anything they are leaning more toward Iran. So if you ask me, the conflict in Iraq was a big failure for the US. While Saddam was there, we didn't have to worry to much about the Iranians, he was keeping them in check. They hated each other, and it would have been hard for them to go nuclear without Saddam intervening. Now ,we run the risk of dealing with two Irans.
Maliki is 1000 times more pro-us than Saddam was. Iraq wasn't keeping Iran in check - they were living under a no-fly zone and UN sanctions. Our goal was a friendly regime in Iraq and an end to Saddam and that's what we have now. Goal achieved.
The issue is Islam. Why do Muslims accept what is going on in Syria, in Iran, .... Barbarianism still exists; are we still in the 7th century?
Also someone said something to the effect of "don't waste our tax dollars there, use it to fix our country". We the problems with our country (USA) can't be fixed with money. Too many people wanting something for free. Too few with the character to work and be satisfied with what they have. Jealous of everybody else. Too many politians who want to play God and and get in everybody's business to "fix" things. Sick and can't work–sorry, but count on your family and neighbors. Why is public aid so bad versus neighbor helping neighbor - because it's easy to be a lazy bum when the help is anonimous. Can't do that when people you know try to help you.
Problem with your idea is that poor people would be helping poor paper. Federal assistance is economic redistribution. The only fix needed is that the 1% needs to pay more taxes.
My family was poor for generations. We helped each other. We never considered that some rich person in another town should be the object of our envy and contempt and demand his money be given to us. Plus we had pride. The kind of pride where you'd rather eat beans than beg steak off the goverment. I'd have to be in pretty bad shape to ever consider taking a government handout. A church or neighbor yes because that's a willing gift. Plus I bet you'd have a hard time finding a truely poor person in the US - and when you did, I could show you a whole country of people who'd stand in line to take their place.
Pesky Muslim Brotherhood...or whatever they're calling themselves in this country this week.
At this rate we'll have that mythical caliphate a reality before the year is up!
Spend $4.00 and send a marine sniper over there. Now they have a chance. I would like to remind everyone here that we would not be America if France did not intervene on our behalf in our revolution.
Sure, the few and the proud...did a great job in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Right on - they did do a good job. We all should be proud of them.
Yes, but France was serving its own interests in doing so. The only interests we have in Syria is to spite Iran and screw with their proxy Hezbollah in Lebanon. And war with Syria = war with Iran – they have a mutual defense pact. We have to look before we leap.
Its time for the coalition of the willing!. This monkey needs to be put down. Wheres George Bush when you need him
Our fine president is doing the right thing by staying out of the Syrian mess. If the stupid Bush were still president he would have sent in our troops by now. As horrible as it is, the situation in Syria is NOT OUR BUSINESS!
Were staying out of this one, and I'm proud of our president for doing the right thing.
I will proudly vote for him in November and you should do the same. Don't vote for a war mongering stupid republican.
I be from Syria and we are being killed over hear... Why does not your president Obama care for the world only his re election right?
Dude, who you tryin to kid with that? You from harlem. "I be from Syria..." yeah, right.....
do not FORGET THIS FACT .... , the american civil war in 1863,. it was won by the abolition of slavery, masscres of blacks
and lynching.... the same is happening in Syria except children and whole families are dying.
ARE YOU JUST GOING TO STAND BY AND LET THIS HAPPEN.....HOPE NOT ,, THIS IS NOT AMERICA OR
HOW IT WAS CREATED OR FOUNDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All you ever hear is complaints about Obama "getting us involved in another war" or "we need to focus on America and fix our problems." Now he stays out and people complain and write a column on how he needs to do something. Stay out of Syria, we've incurred a great enough cost (financially, but more importantly the lives of our troops) "helping" other counties.
Go and help them crazy people in the middle east no more!! When will you stupid Americans get it thru your head, that those people hate your guts and want you all dead!!! Will you send your sons to die for their cause?
Dear leader president Obama u must help the Syrian people who are being murderd over here, I'm hiding in a shyt kitchen writting this and beggin for you mighty assistance in our matter... for the love of god allmighty please stop campaigning and do what is right mr Oburma..
Fk Syria
We can fight the Syrian government now and save some lives.....or we can fight them when we go to war with Iran,
because even if Obama doesnt attack Syria's military over this, we will still be drug into it when Israel strikes Iran over their nuclear program this spring. Then the fit will hit the shan all over the middle east. What I wonder is, what willl Russia and China do if we step in now?
What will they do? They will launch all their nukes on your country at the same time and you will die!! Understood sir!!
Sure.......give it up butt wipe!
Go troll some other place.......no one here is paying you any attention.
What nukes>
Let 'em try. Send one nuke our way (Smoke 'em if you got 'em) and I guaran-freakin-tee you, Syria/Iran will be turned into a sheet of glass.
Got any Windex?
I think we should help all the poor misunderstood muslims over there... Send in the bombers with Nuclear tipped missle and end their miserable existence all of them!!! The world woud be free from their crazy religion and no more conflicts would drag us into another war over there!!! Nuke em ALL NOW!!!
Now you're talkin!
Times is a wastin let's go kill some more arabs and muslims... When you get the chance you must answer the call!!!
The world cannot stand by and see the mass murder of anyone. We need to step up and stop this if it means we need to get involved in a war or not. It harsh its scary, it will involve lives but mankind cannot allow this kind of injustice to occur when all people are asking for is to be free.
Syria is much different than Libya. Syria has a better trained, equipped, and larger army. Syria has support from Russia and China. Military intervention in Syria could be disasterous to the U.S. Without a strong international consensus, including Russia and China, we should stay out of Syria.
"we should stay out of Syria."
You're right, sir. We can launch a few thousand nukes from the Med and the IO. No need to put boots on Syrian soil
so let me get this straight. so many of you are saying that in order to save the women and children and innocents being killed by Assad, we should blow up their country?? Gee, can we do that without killing women, children and other innocent people?
The dictatorships of China and Russia who repress their own people are not going to be involved.
Syrian military is not well equipped. T-72 tanks have lots of weaknesses (look at how Chechen destroyed them), Syrian air force has defunct airplanes, plus there are a lot of Syrians who will defect from military after a no-fly zone according to high ranking defectors.
There has to be a coalition of the willing like in Kosovo and Bosnia.
My first knee-jerk instinct is that we should get involved in Syria. But then I sit back and think: what will be the long term result besides the fact Syrians will hate us despite what we do for them, just like Iraq and Afghanistan. Perhaps were better with an unstable Syria that has to worry more about its own citizens than messing with Lebanon.
apparently ...obama is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't..... actually .... we need to get out of all these "bs" counties and let them sort it out...including Israel.... if we are all going to hell.... americans might as well enjoy the benefits of what little money is left after all the war mongers have depleted the accounts....on fake wars...so defense manufactures can make money....and use the pentagon to justify it...
speaking of mass murder.....what happens ....once private contractors (who are above the law in foreign countries) start running america's police departments...and eventually...decide its necessary to shoot anyone who is homeless and penniless... or looks like an undesirable ...i know it seems far fetched.... but so did going to war with iraq....until somebody dummied up false information to legitimize it....watch yer back....!!!
It will happen soon. But you need not fear we've already tracked your IP address. You will be one of the first.
Some of these responses are very, very sad and do not realize that their comments are the same spirits in the murders in Syria. If none of us have a solution for the problem, PRAY.
I sense your anguish, and wish people would just stick to giving their comments without criticizing comments made by others. But, maybe they need to vent for psychological reasons.
It's really easy to tisk-tisk Obama for a lack of action do far, but measured, thoughtful actions are often better for our self-interest. If it's so easy to go in and take action, why has no other government done it either? There may be no perfect solution. Yes, people are dying. People are always dying in Mideast violence. We have to decide what will help, and what will just inflame mideast hatred of us. I believe action is warranted. But the president has intelligence we don't, so let's be slow to wag our fingers.
America had a revolution.
Countries like Spain, France and the Dutch republic helped America.
Yes the fighting was done by revolutionaries, but they did get a lot of equipment from those countries.
USA's economic problem is going to be solved soon, Obama is creating millions of jobs already.
No one is calling for American boots, but arming the opposition is an option. And no they won't turn on you later, in Afghanistan, most of the Mujahideen were pro-American.
USA must and I believe it will help the Syrian people fight the tyrant Bashar the Pig.
Idrees, stop comparing the alliance between western nations with any co-operation between the west and any muslim country, which is consumed by ideological and religious hatred for the west. Even after America helped Kosovo, one of its own attacked American soldiers in German soil. We hear that Osama Bin Laden was a created by American when they intervened in Afghanistan during the incursion of the Soviet Union. SO, it appears that anytime America intervenes in the affairs of a muslim, something evil is birthed. Any lesson learned so far? Ask the Arab League for help, their fellow muslims will not curse them after the war is won, but America WILL definitely be insulted
China and Russia are propping the regime up because Syria is the resting place of all the Russian and Chinese WMD that Saddam shipped out in the trucks days before the war. It exposes them.
I think the WMD were from us. That's why we went in. We found them and destroyed them, too. But we couldn't SAY it, because they came from the US – better to just run with the narrative that we never found any WMD. We went into Iraq to clean up our own mess we never should have made in the first place.
I hope there is a lot more of good hearted Americans.
Personnal story : I once saw an adolescent defending a small guy from being beaten by another teen. He was suspended and punished by his parents for that.
He did the right thing, yet he was punished at the beginning. At the end, people realized that the bully was the bad one and he received many thanks and goodwill.
My point is America is being seen as "evil" for Iraq in Afghanistan or even Libya, but the world will realize that America is a force of Good.
The world will never realize it because it doesn't fit their desire to see it. They prefer to be jealous.
I hope you're right.
stop comparing the alliance between western nations with any co-operation between the west and any muslim country, which is consumed by ideological and religious hatred for the west. Even after America helped Kosovo, one of its own attacked American soldiers in German soil. We hear that Osama Bin Laden was a created by American when they intervened in Afghanistan during the incursion of the Soviet Union. SO, it appears that anytime America intervenes in the affairs of a muslim, something evil is birthed. Any lesson learned so far? Ask the Arab League for help, their fellow muslims will not curse them after the war is won, but America WILL definitely be insulted
If ever in our era there was a righteous fight to wage war over I would think taking down the al-Assad regime is it in my opinion. The political infighting between the heavy powers of the world in the UN council is irresponsible and is only perpetuating the slaughter taking place in Syria right now. I for one would be willing to fatigue up and take the good fight to al-Assad's front door. For the peoples sake I truly hope immediate outside military action is taken against the current Syrian regime
Have to disagree with the article. It's a horrific situation, but we need the backing of a coalition of countries and a solid plan of action if we're going to get involved.
It's not as if we can just go traipsing in with doctors and humanitarian aid and just do the right thing easily and Assad will just be fine with that and wave us in. Meanwhile all the other countries and half of this one will be complaining that we're trying to run the world and flouting the UN.
We should do one thing and one thing only, target the murderous president of Syria and take him out and then the killing would end.
Yes let's help Syria put in a new government ... It worked out so well in Libya where Doctors without Borders recently pulled out of due to the sickening level of violence by the new "Transitional National Authority" (Doesn't that sound like a nice friendly group) that we helped install. Sources said they make Ghadafi look like a boy scout. oh why am i even ranting... syria is tied to Iran and Israel is enemies with Iran, so of course we'll end up intervening. Watch ... you'll see and you'll pay also. Ain't no way you or I can stop it. Here's one of many cites btw :http://news.yahoo.com/msf-quits-prisons-libya-city-over-torture-172819628.html
I have been there twice since the change. I have no idea what Dr. Without Boarders encountered, but it was reasonably clam. Do you by chance know how many YEARS it took to establish a peace after the US revolution? Get real and give them a chance.
While it was not a US creation, Libya had a new governement in place externally organizing the overthrow and at least nominally preparred to govern. It was visibly organized and able to attract both financial and technical resources within the Gulf. Just look at the story in the NYT about how they commandeered the national telecoms network and moved the switching to Malta. The was not Chalabi formed mess, these were thoughtful passionate Libyans.
Until that exists in Syria, all we have is a mess to aviod.
I say U.S. has no business over there. Of course, Obama opened his big mouth and gave the rebels vocal support, and helped the same in Libya. The result is that 1) we look like wimps because we won't put are troops where our mouth is at, and 2) we have blood on our hands by encouraging the uprising so we can now watch as they are slaughtered. Obama went into Libya because he knew it would be "easy" – it would give him a "victory" without costing American lives. But he's too yellow to take on Syria, because it might actually be an all-out war.
We should have stayed completely out to begin with. Just quit buying oil from them and then it won't matter.
We need to have a foreign policy that has one overriding goal: does it help/protect U.S. interests? This is something that Ron "Neville Chamberlain" Paul doesn't get.
Bill Cllnton stood by and did nothing about genocide in Rwanda and Bosnia. That was evil and wrong but he got away with it. The time is ripe for the world to proactively deal with mass murder and do what needs to be done to stop it. Why?
1. Its the right and moral thing to do.
2. Once the world-wide value is that genocide and mass murder will not be condoned, the bad guys will get the messageand won't do it because they will know that doing it will be, at minimum,, mean they lose and may be killed or executed.
3. The "good guys" need to learn that you can't stand idly by and condone evil.
Your comments re: Clinton are not really true so much as they are untrue.
Sooooo.... you're saying Clinton led us into Rwanda to stop the murder of 2 million people? And in which completely erroneous textbook did you read that? We DIDN'T go into Rwanda – we had no interest there. We went into Bosnia eventually, and that didn't really turn out so well.
After all the heat the administration took from Republicans over Libya, why in Sam Hill would they want to get involved in Syria? It would be met with nothing but calls of "socialist spending money we don't have harumph harumph."
Can't win for losing.
The heat wasn't about if to help, but how. It was just strange how we went in with the nato and all.
It's always funny to hear some moronic desk jockey "advising" the president to send American boys into harms way. These same tools will be the ones whining when we take casualties. America does not need another war, we are not the worlds policemen, and if Syria blows up, who cares?......let Iran handle the mess.
Second, it is unclear who the replacement would be would be and we could be getting into a situation where the cure is worse than the illness . What we don't need is another extremist regime like Iran....let's see how the cards fall
Whatever the US does will likely be labeled the wrong decision on the Arab Street. So we should not worry about how it will be perceived so much as we look at what is the right thing to do. Get Saudi Arabia on our side and see if we get al-Assad to step and go into exile in Morocco or something. After that, I have no clue.
Sounds like a great plan!
NO, Obama needs to do SOMETHING NOW!
WHY? Because he is the leader of our democracy and DEMOCRACY helps the downtrowden and less
fortunate and STOPS MASSACRES. Remember Hitler and Poland, no one wanted to do anything not
even
Chamberlain and his british citizesn.. we all know what happened next.....WW2....
OBAMA MUST ACT NOW FOR THE SYRIAN PEOPLE AND THE WORLD NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Speaking as a former US Army soldier, sit this one out. Yes it kills me inside a bit to know innocent people are dying, but the fact remains that Russia, China, Saudi, Jordan, UAE....these are the countries that need to be involved and setting this straight not the USA!
Let's say Obama sends us in, then what? We stop the violence for maybe a few months before every jihadist decides to shift from Iraq to Syria for a piece of an American. The people of Syria start calling for American blood too and we are left as the bad guys AGAIN!
We have good intentions, but the fact is that part of the world does not appreciate it at all. They see us as saviors one second and the enemy a moment later. Forget it, we are tired of it. See how well the world fairs without us for once.
Duane,
Agree to some point,,,, but if no one interferes where does this leave us.....we always stood for
innocents and against despots like Hitler, mussolini, etc..... we have another despot killling innocents...
I dont think anyone else can do the job.... Who is going to help them ,,,,no one...your conscience will pay you
a visit one day when you could have done something but you stood by and watch innocents die...
Duane, you have a good point. And, thank you for your service to our country.
AMERICA? IS GREAT AND MUST CONTINUE BEING GREAT....WE CARE about freedom, democracy and government for the people , by the people and other countries who strive for same values.... we are NOT AMERICA if we DONT CARE.!!!!
FREEDOM , LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS... THAT IS WHAT SYRIA IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
WE MUST HELP THEM!!
This is a double-edged sword. On one side we have no right to interfere with another country's business. On the other we as human being cannot let this genocide continue. Whatever decision is made it will be both right and wrong. I for one am on the side of helping the innocent people involved in this tragedy. I am glad it is not my decision to make.
VERY WELL PUT
Jack, there is very short and simple difinition of Genocide for you as given by Wikipedia: "Genocide is the crime of killing many people who are all part of one ethnic group, religious group, or some sort of similar group, and trying to destroy that group". Are you just confused, or are you trying to manipulate the reality by selecting wrong labels as CNN usually do – it is not good either way.
Me to Jack. That's why presidents go in looking young, and come out looking old. These kinds of decisions are wrenchingly stressful.
THE RED PHONE IS RINGING......Problem is there is no one who knows what he is doing to answer it. Hilliary warned the Democrats and nation of this problem. Obama focusing ONLY on his campaign, too bed, so many are dying, but campaign comes first and foremost. This is not the first time that he has demonstrated Zero leadership skills. Cowardliness is an interesting state to observe in the face of crisis.
No too Enlightened are you. You should shut because you're a moron.
It is a rebellion happening in Syria. Or a revolution. Or a civil war – call it whatever way you like. The point is that it is not the first one, and certainly not the last one. Unless of course you believe that the world as we know it will end 2012/12/21.
So I do not think America or any other country should start intervening in any and every civil war and see it as a reason for bombing or occupying the country and resolving it all its way. Because that way will cost more long term all sides. Helping to avoid it – that would be good. Helping to find some peaceful solution – great, if anybody can do it! But helping one side to overthrow or suppress another – that is different animal altogether!
How can America not be involved in creating or supporting overseas conflicts, militarily!
Dont forget American politicians have to support their financiars. Help them sustain their businesses.
There are now more than 10,000 ex-Iraq defence contracfors who are out of work. And what about the military weaponry, tanks and fighter jet manufacturers back home? How are their bosses going to afford buying newer and bigger private jets ... if there is no war anywhere in the world.
It's an American culture. War is good for business. Good business for a few rich American multi millionaires.
So lets create more wars somewhere in the world. Nevermind who wins the fight, Important thing is the war machinery factories continue to churn our the guns, bullets and missiles, inciendiary bombs, chemical bombs,drones etc etc .
Another example of our President leading from behind.................We are the laughing stock of the world.
Wes- Explain to me why we should be involved?
no. we were the laughing stock of the world when Bush was president. he was ignorant, mis-informed and squandered the good will of the world after 9-11 by invading Iraq for no good reason. maybe Fox news didn't tell you, but the rest of the world admires and respects Harvard-educated, cool-headed, thoughtful Obama. only in our backwards country do we make heroes out of the stupid and ignorant and turn on the intelligent people among us.
I strongly disagree. Bush was very respected and our country was respected. If you travel overseas, they don't really have strong opinions on either - they have their own lives to live and not worry about how much the respect the us presisdent. We did have a good reason to go into Iraq - that's why congress, the UN, and most of the American people supported it. We were successful with our goal in Iraq. Sure, you can point out negative things, but I can point out positive. It's called the confirmation bias and it keeps you from thinking accurately about things. We tend to only recognize the evidence that supports our idea of reality and ignore all else.
i am confused about what you believe our goal was in Iraq, why we attacked them and how we accomplished that goal? the public supported Bush because they believed his lies about why we were going to Iraq, while we still hadn't cleaned up Afghanistan or gotten the people who actually attacked us. but you should know that millions of us did not approve of the Iraq invasion. Iraq was not involved in 9-11, in fact Al Queda hated Hussain because he didn't follow Sharia law. they never had weapons of mass destruction, and the Israeli govt told us so (they took out the nuclear plant long ago). we had no business starting a war to remove a dictator, any more than any other country would have the right to attack us to get rid of our leaders. and we left a country in crisis, which is shortly going to be taken over by the Shiite majority, who will align with Iran and impose Sharia law on the citizens. and I have traveled abroad and have never met anyone who admired Bush. Obama took out BinLadin and all the top people who actually were involved in terrorism, and he did so without destroying entire countries. case closed.
Speaking as a former US Army soldier, sit this one out. Yes it kills me inside a bit to know innocent people are dying, but the fact remains that Russia, China, Saudi, Jordan, UAE....these are the countries that need to be involved and setting this straight not the USA!
Let's say Obama sends us in, then what? We stop the violence for maybe a few months before every jihadist decides to shift from Iraq to Syria for a piece of an American. The people of Syria start calling for American blood too and we are left as the bad guys AGAIN!
We have good intentions, but the fact is that part of the world does not appreciate it at all. They see us as saviors one second and the enemy a moment later. Forget it, we are tired of it. See how well the world fairs without us for once.
That's right Duane – both sides will turn on you! That has happened before. It will happen again and again. Have to be blind not to see it.
Let me start by saying I love our men fighting for our country. We backed Hussan then we killed him, we we backed Gadaffi and we killed him, we back Osoma and then we killed him, we backed the Shia then we sent Hussan in there to kill them. We go in to help then we want evrything they have. When we don't get it we kill them. Historically we are the bad guys even when try to do some good it seems we screw it up. Over and Over again. The Phillipines we went in to help and we ended up killing them. The only people I do not understand why they hate us are the French.
This is what make s AMERCA, WE CARE about freedom, democracy and government for the people , by the
people and other countries who strive for same values.... we are NOT AMERICA if we DONT CARE.!!!!
FREEDOM , LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS... THAT IS WHAT SYRIA IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
WE MUST HELP THEM!!
As much as I am for helping people it's getting old. We spend lives and billions of dollars helping these countries and they will sit there with their hands out and then curse us as the eveil regime when our backs are turned.
I'm sorry people are dieing but we haveour own problems. Forget that. I'm tired of these countries in the ME.
We backed Hussan then we killed him, we we backed Gadaffi and we killed him, we back Osoma and then we killed him, we backed the Shia then we sent Hussan in there to kill them. We go in to help then we want evrything they have. When we don't get it we kill them. Historically we are the bad guys even when try to do some good it seems we screw it up. Over and Over again. The Phillipines we went in to help and we ended up killing them. The only people I do not understand why they hate us are the French.
I'm trying to figure out why you hate us!! We supported these people not knowing they'd go crazy (i.e 9-11). Things are how you interpret them.
Bombs away!!
I think the volunteers should be sent there – to help Syria. That would be Charles Darwin way. Why other people should go there and die in somebody elses war. Let liberals themselves (in very general sense) do it for a change!
The Arab league should be the one going in. isreal should be going in if it is in our best interest. They are our allys right? Turky keeps saying they are going in but they do not. We went in last time and Obama was lambased for it. Now he won't and he is being lambased for that. I says stay out of it. Anyway there is no threat of a central bank being created there backed by the gold or oil standard so I guess there is no threat to the Fed or the Central banks like there was with Hussan and Gudaffi.
Americans have fought and died for freedom throughout our history. Let the Syrians do the same. If Iranians, Afghans, or any Islamic country truly wants freedom from dictators and mullahs, let them unite and fight. US stay out of it!!!
We live in the 21st century and a global population of over 7 billion. If we collectively do not put an end to violence at this level, we are not, absolutely not going to make it to the 22nd century.
Yeah, let's bomb them into peace!
Its really annoying how ignorant and stupid people are...."we shouldnt bail them out"? its the US govt that started this mess...just like they started the mess in lybia and iraq and egypt....no no i forgot america is a beacon of light to the world and would never do anything except protect the world and its own citizens.....BS....if you want america to be a beacon of light than you must have a beacon as a leader...you cant have lying politicians who dont give a fk about you or the rest of the world...u need a leader who cares and not about policing but about his own country...why dont you take a look at ron paul...The only one who speaks the truth...the only one who can change the course of this country....if its not ron paul than it doesnt really matter who it is because nothing will change...and that is the truth
Yawn, another conservative wanting the US to get into another war. What a big surprise.
John Quincy Adams: America goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.
Seems relevant to the current situation.
Why should we bail out syria....what is wrong with the incredibly rich countries right around syria....what is wrong with them? They would love the USA to get involved so they can blame the USA for everything.....Stay out of Syria...no Americans should die for this fight.
This is whats happening in syria and its simply whats been happening in the rest of the arab world. The US is instigating this war by sending in al quieda(arab mercenaries)to kill civilians and attack the current syrian govt.... The syrian govt is trying to protect the people and itself but fighting is awkward and civilians are getting killed too. America is trying to say that this is a "revolution" while in reality its just america trying to topple yet another govt....and ofcourse because this is an american instigated war they have a nice little spin on what happening and it looks horrible to the stupid american public....BOOM!
The U.S. is 'sending in Al Qaeda'?!???
So Al Qaeda is now fighting for us???
Sheesh! You are nuttier than a fruitcake!
They have been using al quieda for a long time you idiot...
CIA practically created al qaeda from scratch with pakistany help. They used it to fight Soviets in Afghanistan. That is no secret and has never been, except for LeRoy Was Not There.
Sorry, did not read the original message from BigEd. I think LeRoy still has a valid point there.
What happens in ME now is not in US interest. Quite opposite. I personally do not see a single thing there which US would benefit from. The best could they do now – is to play the Evil Russia/China card to abdicate any responsibility for whatever happens next, to minimize the damage. And avoid any involvement. That is what they do now.
I guess Internet service has been restored to Assad's palace.
Both of you (BigEd and Andrey) are certifiable NUTS. The U.S. played a large role in creating the Taliban, to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. We did NOT create Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda is not = the Taliban. I sincerely hope most Americans are more well-informed than you two are. If not, our whole country is in serious trouble.
They are probably not even American. Just some dumb trolls.
You guys are right...let me go get brain washed by fox and cnn so i can be just like you! ..well i still wont be obese so ill be almost like you!
What a bunch of ignorants! Taliban – is that all you know? What about Mujahid then? Do you know anything about them? Or your were still a kid in erly 1980-s and too lazy to learn any history?
"From 1986, it began to set up a network of recruiting offices in the U.S., the hub of which was the Al Kifah Refugee Center at the Farouq Mosque in Brooklyn's Atlantic Avenue. Among notable figures at the Brooklyn center were "double agent" Ali Mohamed, whom FBI special agent Jack Cloonan called "bin Laden's first trainer,"[77] and "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel-Rahman, a leading recruiter of mujahideen for Afghanistan. Al-Qaeda evolved from the MAK." Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda and read "History" section. It is not too long, but may do you some good.
Here we go again, Team America, World Police.
First off, I hope everyone saying we don't need to get involved is behind Ron Paul. He is a staunch backer of a non-intervention foreign policy... just saying. Secondly, if we went in there and helped these people, they would be planting IED's for our troops two weeks later and claim we are occupiers. Third, I am tired of doing stuff for these countries when one of the richest countries in the world, Saudi Arabia, stands there and lets all of this go on in their backyard. We need to get out of the middle east and let them work this stuff out themselves. We should take a simple policy that "We will stay our of your business, but if you attack us or our allies we will level your country" and be done with it.
Nice try, but there is a happy medium between being the world's policeman and Ron "Neville Chamberlain" Paul. There should be one guiding principle behind our foreign policy, and that's what's in the U.S.' best interest. A civil war in Syria, while very tragic, does not impact U.S. interests. A nuclear Iran, OTOH, would have a definite impact on U.S. interests. The problem is that we have expended a lot of capital on a needless war in Iraq and a criminally mishandled effort (by BOTH Bush and Obama) in Afghanistan, leaving both our armed forces and our credibility stretched to the limit.
I concur. We're broke. Let's leave this one to Saudi Arabia, Turkey, et al.
if america wants to keep up its game as world police – it is high time we equip our leaders and our elite "nobles" with the guns and send them like drones to the front lines – it would be a dream if we could keep our brothers and sisters home with us and not see them die for nonsense – the leaders who want the police hero fantasies and the glory should shoulder the guns and march to the front lines to get the prizes God and Nature would never afford an honest person.
Why????
That is the responsibility of the Arab League.
Stay out of this, Mr. President. We have nothing to gain by engaging in this conflict.
I agree.
You have one planet.
One.
The rest of the civilised worlds watch and wait,
to see how you humans treat each other.
Evolve or perish.
That are liberals (in general sense, not one political party) from Mars talking.
I knew it! They are not human – they are alilens!
this is not AMERICA talking... America became great because we care about other countries...we cared
about countries who have despots at the helm.. we care about people, dying children, families with
only freedom, and the pursuit of happiness as we do in america...MARK MY WORDS....AMERICA AS A
ONCE GREAT NATION... BECAUSE OF CARING... WILL BE WIPED OUT THE MAP ,,,,IF IF IT CONTINUES THIS
PATH OF NON CARING....WHAT THE HELL ARE WE WAITING FOR... LETS GO AND FIGHT THESE BLOODYH
SYRIANS THAT ARE KILLING INNOCENT CHILDREN....AND OTHER FAMILIES WHERE THE AMERICAN OLD
GREAT GUTS??????????????????????????????????????????????????
Shut up Norm.
Well said Dover.
This is what is going to happen: The republicans are going to start screaming for Obama to "Do something about Syria!!!!!" Then, when he does something, they are going to immediately start screaming "What do you think you are doing!!!!!!"
You made me laugh, maybe because what you said is so true.
WHAT? We must do NOTHING for Syria... Why should we do something to benefit Syria when hundreds of civilians danced, cheered, clapped, sang and burned American flags in Damascus while the World Trade Center was collapsing with 3000 people inside... SCREW YOURSELF SYRIA!
Exactly!
Hi... For those of you who think it is our obligation to intervene and help the people in Syria, I have news for you... We will spend the money, sacrifice American lives, put ourselves in the middle of yet another worthless war, and guess what we will get out of it? NOTHING...
These people do not stand for the values we stand for, these people will spit in our faces if they could, these people do not know the meaning of the words tolerance, respect and shame, not even among them, forget about Jews, Christians, Atheist, Mormons or ANY OTHER religious group.
For them we Americans are just a group of infidels and imperialist who deserve the worst. So asking us for help is quite ridiculous. I have nothing against the Islam or Muslims, but they do have a lot against us and sadly their mentality is backwards: you are with us or you are against us... they do not believe in a society we all can co-exist and live based on our own beliefs...
And it is sad, very sad indeed, that as of today we still have people in our country who don't realize the threat that this represents as more and more and more of them keep coming here.
I agree with D_NYC. In fact, if we wait long enough, maybe they'all just kill one another off which will be a blessing for Israel, most certainly for Lebanon, and the world in general.
President Obama is hatching something. I think he's palming an ace on this.
This is for everyone who wants to go to war anywhere. Go ahead and join the service, go to training and sacrifice your own life for nothing. Do not send our young people into another useless war. The United States is Monetarily Broke due to The Republican Wars, Tax cuts for the very rich, and a unfunded Prescription Plan. All Chicken Hawks should just go on over to Syria and have a grand old time.
It's best that we keep out of Syria and let the Arab countries, Russia & China handle the mess. Either way we will be blamed by Islamic supporters, both inside & outside incl. CNN's own Mr.Fareed Zakaria, Dean ObeidALLAH, as also (distinguished???) Profs. Mohammed Ayoob and Juan Cole of Univ. of Michigan, and Ethan Casey of the Huffington Post etc.
Frankly we don't have the money to waste on any more such misadventures when we are $15T in debt.
Let the rich Arab countries foot the bill.
Our intervention in Iraq was a disaster, unseating the only secular leader in the Muslim world, and a huge bulwark against Iran with a govt. that is much more friendly to Iran than us! Forget the plight of the Iraqi Christians and other minorities!
We will never be sure of who will replace Al Assad. What if an even more fundamentalist govt. takes over just as it's happening all over N.Africa, to the utter glee of Islamic supporters like CNN's own Mr.FAREED ZAKARIA, Dean ObeidALLAH, Prof.Mohammed Ayoob, Juan Cole, Imam Rauf, Rashad Hassan and others.
Let's be realistic please!
Concur totally.
"American moral purpose"? Don't fool yourself into believing that countries are moral agents. Countries serve their self-interests, they don't go out in search of the moral high ground. Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam have shown us what happens when we try to tell other people how they should live their lives. Let them decide for themselves, whether by ballots or bullets.
Doesn't any posters here realizes America is still waging a "War on Terrorism"? Stated by two US Presidents – "we will go anywhere they are hiding and take them out".
1. Obama has proven we can change a failed dictatorship w/o spilling American blood. (Libya)
2. Syria (and Iran) leaders are both proclaimed terrorist sponsors.
3. Why is not in America's best interest to take out terrorist sponsors?
Im sorry but we as HUMAN BEINGS do have a responsibility to help protect anyone in need. The values of this new world is going to destroy all mankind. Regardless of what one might think, we are only here for a short period. In the end we will all answer why we let our brothers, and sisters suffer this horrible injustice. I would rather stand and fight to protect these people, than to be a whisper in the wind. I would gladly givr my life to save anothers. This slaughter makes us no better than wild animals.
Then ship yourself over to Syria. One way ticket.
I am proud of this administration adhering to UN decision to not step in. And I have China & Russia to thank for that.
أوباما هو المسيح الدجال!
Last weeks sermon was "we can't please everyone but we can please God. By doing whats right"
We have plenty of drones for Pakistan, surly we can spare one for Assad?
SERIOUSLY... Hi... For those of you who think it is our obligation to intervene and help the people in Syria, I have news for you... We will spend the money, sacrifice American lives, put ourselves in the middle of yet another worthless war, and guess what we will get out of it? NOTHING...
These people do not stand for the values we stand for, these people will spit in our faces if they could, these people do not know the meaning of the words tolerance, respect and shame, not even among them, forget about Jews, Christians, Atheist, Mormons or ANY OTHER religious group.
For them we Americans are just a group of infidels and imperialist who deserve the worst. So asking us for help is quite ridiculous. I have nothing against the Islam or Muslims, but they do have a lot against us and sadly their mentality is backwards: you are with us or you are against us... they do not believe in a society we all can co-exist and live based on our own beliefs...
And it is sad, very sad indeed, that as of today we still have people in our country who don't realize the threat that this represents as more and more and more of them keep coming here.
There is no reason why the US should not go into another ME nation to “bring Democracy” to it, and make a complete mess of the job…not while there is one drop of American soldier blood left to spill. Those objecting to doing so do not appreciate the responsibility the US bares being the only remaining super-know-it-all on Earth.
Given how much the mainstream media has lied to you all over the last twenty years, I want to clue you in to something:
YOU HAVENT THE SLIGHTEST IDEA WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IN SYRIA!!!!!
When pro-democracy people bravely demonstrated in Iran the U.S. did NOTHING, result: Iran advances to nuclear bombs, missiles that can reach the U.S. etc. Elementary logic says if the U.S. also does nothing to help brave pro-democracy people in Syria the U.S. can imagine that Syria or its buddy Iran will do nothing. At a minimum send the people arms to have a fighting chance. It won't cause a civil war for that has already started..... Another point, since the U.N. doesn't work due to Russia and China vetoing what is pro-democracy efforts, let's start another group called United Nations For Peace And Democracy consisting of proved democracies only.
The same methods are used to justify military attacks against Syria. Few years ago, the same western leaders justified attacks against Iraq and Afghanistan based on lies. Couple of months ago, it was Kadhafi. Today is the president of Syria. Iran will be served too after Syria.
Like Libya, Syria is being attacked by rebels armed by some western governments. The plan to destabilize the middle- East has been established a long time ago. Popular channels like CNN usually play a big role in developing a propaganda to prepare people's mind and make them accept military actions. The destablilization of the middle East and other countries has many goals. The first goal is to possess the natural resources of those countries/regions. The second goal is to strengthen or install political influence. Lastly and the most important one is the establishment of a New World order. However, other nations like Russia and maybe China are well aware of this plan. The country for now that is able to military resist against Israel, US and its allies is Russia. We know that Syria and Iran have strong relations with Russia. Installing western puppets in Syria and Iran will definitely weaken Russia and make it more vulnerable.
This is not about democracy or humanitarian actions. The same thing has been said about Libya but Nato killed thousands of civilians and installed radical muslims and members of Al-Qaida to power. The UN, US....etc are all condemning the Syrian government but it is ridiculous. Israel regularly kills Palestinians and ignores the UN's decisions. Why don't they condemn Israel? The US went to Iraq and killed thousands of civilians in spite of the UN disapproval. As I know, nobody condemned the US government. In Ivory Coast, the US and its allies backed Ouattara, a man who has blood of thousands of Ivorians on his hands. US and its allies promote democracy through words but support terrorism, genocides, crimes against humanity..etc through military and political actions. Those devilish and selfish actions may lead the world to another World War. The world will be a better place the day western civilizations/nations stop developing a superiority complex.
Obama is the biggest scam of the 21st century.
OBAMA must do something. that is obvious, BUT WHAT? if he attacks he draws fire from so many corners its like facing a minigun firing squad. if he waits he draws condemnation from his populace and allies. there is really no middle ground. this decision could cost him his political career/election/life. if america wants to keep walking the middle road it's starting look little bleak. have any of you thought about what he could do? not just jump in guns blazing, but actually come to terms with the rest of this rowdy world? is there a way out? tune in tomorrow and find out! jeez it's as bad a soap opera! how come Alassad doesn't ask for help from conventional allies? why is are we even bothering with a region that's outside of general way? because everybody should have a say in how their lives are run. what laws should govern how they live. they should not have to live in fear of their lives because some government/religion/ideal tells them they have to live that way and they think they have a better fairer way.is that wrong?if they are allowed no voice this is what happens they rebel. syria's current tactic is kill and cover-up.if they were in the right could that not come to the light? the fact that they are not tells enough. what we know is enough to act but what can we do when other forces can afford to wait?what can we do when those forces say "NO!! sit still! we have other plans!". we are coming real close to a tie breaker that could spell the future of mankind. we have brushed it. we have heard it's whisper. will it turn into a roar? who is good and who is evil? these are the waters that obama is currently treading. right now something brilliant from the areas where man first started to come together IE the middle east would help alot. in order to live in a world where man lives together in peace and passes their legacy to the stars we are asking for a miracle. for just how dire these times are for reference I'm an atheist! ireally don't want to go up in ash for someone elses beliefs. and i don't want anyone else dying for mine. but i'll fight for few a things in this world and peace between me and my neighbors is one of them.
Danielle Pletka, you are a disgrace.
The US is the world's leader in democracy and we are the most powerful nation on earth. As such, it is our responsibility to promote democracy whenever a country is being pulverized for simply wanting freedom and democracy. We are slowly winning hearts in the Arab and Muslim world, and helping Syria will stay long in the memory of the Syrians and the Arab Word. Do the right. Obama. Help the Syrians defeat tyranny.
"I don't have a globalist agenda, just doing what's right versus doing what's wrong. If you saw someone in need, would you just says sorry, I don't want to interfer with you?..."
You're making the analogy of, say, a person getting mugged on the street, and you see it, you should do something to help. Well lets say that mugger has 2 buddies with 9mm's on their belt, would you be so inclined to help if you only had a knife, or mace?
American politicians see past the surface issue of the syrian killings, and understand the implications of military actions to syrian govermental allies intervention.
In short, we would like to do something to stop the killings ASAP, but we realize we cant fight off China, Russia, Iran and Syria all at the same time because we decided to bomb Syria for being bad. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
precisely.
That is completely preposterous. No nation would lift a finger if a multi-national force forces syria to stop the shelling. China and Russia would not dare I guarantee you that with 100% certainity. "We're going to risk the existence of our nation, and our planet, because we feel so strongly that this dictator has the right to slaughter his opponents".
get a grip with reality dude.
The bottom line is foreign terrorists, probably Mossad, have been killing Syrians. Then the Jewish CNN media blames Syrians (Assad) for it. Typical cheap Jewish false flag terrorism. the world knows. The Jewish lie machine is $15 Trillion dollars in debt and sinking. Borrowing money it doesn't have to destabilize nations around the world who refuse to pay taxes to Jews.
As far as I'm concerned, this article is useless. I can come up with a million evil things that Syria has done. This article a) completely fails to state any principle, whatsoever, that can be used to judge whether or not we should intervene in a particular country and b) completely fails to mention a single downside, a single negative repercussion that might arise for the US or for Syria or for anybody because of intervention.
Agreed, Mike. If we go to Syria then where do we stop? Half of the African continent has brutal dictators, but the difference is (allow me to state the obvious)....oil. On a side note: It's pretty funny that conservatives were bashing Obama for our involvement in Libya, but now they're demanding the exact same thing in Syria....Watch them all flip flop if we end up going...classic example of what's wrong with this country.
Let's stay out of Syria. Look at all the other places we have intervened, to no good result.
America intervened in Bosnia, Kosovo and Libya and it was a good result.
The world did not start 10 years ago, America did a lot of things in the world for the past... um.... 100 years ?
Don't compare Libya and Kosovo. In Kosovo people were killed having no weapons in hands and in Libya Gaddaffi killed people with weapons in hand. In Syria people took weapons in hands and are being killed by Government and Kosovo was not like that.If you tok weapons in hand against your government then you are no longer innocent. If people protesting at Wall Street took weapons in hand, US government will also kill them. Person protesting with weapons is always a terrorist.
One Predator with one Hellfire missile will be enough!
Syria has nothing we need. Let the government keep killing its own people. It will serve as a reminder to other Middle East nations why they need to embrace the West. Russia and China are Syrian backers and its clear that life means nothing to them. A hard core bloodbath will isolate Syria and drive other nations into the arms of the west. Assad is irrational. His egotism and megalomania won't let him make rational and pragmatic decisions. Its all over for him anyway.
It seems like CNN has an anti-Muslim agenda! They let people post super racist comments constantly, and when I try to respond, going over each comment with a fine toothed comb to make sure that there's no cursing, name calling, etc., only about 5% of my them actually get posted. Let's see if this one does.
to Jay von hettlingen... answer: because we are sick of it all. We help them, they hate us. We don't help them, they call us inhumane. Make your ridiculous Muslim minds!!
Why not excise this guy by cesarian section? He's kind of a boil anyway. Then the mother country can put him up for adoption for the best price. Look at it like a fun auction. This guy, his buddies, and anyone associated with him now knows that if they don't get him in a cage, then his children will pay the father's price. No way out now....their entire bloodlines will vanish from the face of the earth. In the end, the people win. This time, when the people get to him, he'll probably be dragged a few miles by horse to his bloody end.
Americans sure have bad memories. Iraq was also a 'war of liberation' against a middle east despot who killed thousands of his people. How did that 'help' turn out? A hundred thousand innocents were killed with our 'help'.
The war in Libya destroyed the country and turned it into a cesspool of anarchy and bloodshed.
The idea that military intervention can stop another country's civil war is madness.
In Iraq, people were not protesting against the government.
In Syria, people are protesting against the government.
In Syria, America will be greeted as liberators like in Kosovo (a muslim country).
In Iraq people were not protesting because US government did not realize earlier what is the best way to de-stabilize a country before attacking. Syrians are protesting because American made this policy and US government did not realize this tactic for Iraq.There was no American policy for protests in Iraq so there were no protests in Iraq and in Syria USA made the policy of protests so people are protesting. Muslims are not so clever.In Libya USA tried the policy of bombing many times but was not successful but the policy of using their own people is learned by Americans in Afghanistan so they used this in Libya and now in Syria. See what they did in Afghanistan to remove Taliban government easily.
With one war finished and another in the draw down stages, it would be a real violation of valid judgement for the USA to intervene militarilly in Syria. Haven't we learned a lesson from two wars begun by a President who didn't know when to mind his own business and keep quiet? Now that our economy is improving, the last thing we need is another big military adventure urged on by another bunch of trigger happ flag waving Bubbas. Whatever good is happening to our economy would sink in a heartbeat if we got involved in another war.....guaranteed.
I don't know about you, but I don't want my slowly inproving investments to sink again for the sake of Syria.
It's their problem. Let them deal with it...or not. But it's their problem ..not ours.
I agree, but sadly there's so many fools who didn't learn from the last 2 disastrous wars.
I hadn't thought about my investments until I read your comment, but I agree with you. I don't want mine to suffer either. And, our country needs to improve so that more folks can get back to work.
I bought this neocon spin and supported the Iraq war.
Not again.
Since you learned your lesson wisely, let us hope you don't buy into those crazy, psycho talk of the Repukes from here on.
Also, take this note from a guerrilla warfare warrior. If you start a War; the decision to end it will NOT be yours to decide. Iraq is a typical example.
Obama needs to do the following, right now.
Call the other heads of state in this world, and ask them "who is in". A multi national force needs to stop the dictator's murdering of innocent men, women and children immediately! This is the 21st century people. Anyone that stands back and thinks it's okay to watch civilians be slaughtered doesn't need to be commenting or advising on American foreign policy. Those people need to take a look in the mirror and do a lot of reflecting.
I agree with you.
People are afraid of an Islamist government, but as a Muslim let me tell everyone that Morocco and Turkey has been having Islamist government and it was a friend of Israel and is a friend to America.
This idea that Al Qaeda is going to take over is nonsense. Al Qaeda is a problem for Muslims too, they will take care of it if it is present.
People have lost a sense of humanity.
America must act in Syria.
If we act; We all die! get it?
we did the same in libya and terrorists are using that as a recruiting tool. muslims called us for help and we did and now they hate us for doing it. its better for America to stay out especially when their is nothing to gain and all to lose. Let other arab nations step. what are they waiting for?
Hey Jew; are you hiding behind your tiny computer as usual like a coward as you have always been in your underwear and wanting the US to fight your battles directly or indirectly?
I bet you're waiting for your usual Pres. Obama's jewish welfare checks in the mail so that you can build your settlement in israel?
It's hard to want to intervene and bring 'democracy and freedom' when people here can't even get healthcare and are forced into poverty. We all know the end of the day, even if we roll in spent trillions and saved them in the blink of an eye they'd start shooting at us. It's just not worth it.
Yes, we as Americans believe in intervening and bringing Democracy and freedom from oppression to the world. (As long as there are natural resources to gain control over) And the UN what a damn joke!!!! How is China and Russia allotted the privilege to even sit on this council, let alone wield Vito power? America had no problem breaking treaties and going against the UN vote to invade Iraq yet we are so rigid now on not stepping on the few fascists toes that inhabit an organization that has a mission statement pledging their responsibility to uphold and encourage the betterment of the quality of life for everyone, no matter what country they reside. IGOs and their b.s. hypocrisy. UN is the modern League Of Nations and just like it, it will see it's end.
We must act? This will ignite WW111, Yea, good idea. Let them kill each other, They hate the U.S, anyway
Fascinating to see how many chickenhawks we still have after the Iraq fiasco. How many do you suppose are willing to put their boots or those of their children on the ground, or to pay more taxes to cover the cost? I'll bet they're all in favor of military action as long as it with other people's kids and other people's money.....
Yes – this Danielle is a true warrior sitting in her conference room discussing policy with other wonks. She is highly trained and certified to drive others' children into a quagmire like Syria. I want her immediate family and all her cousins stepping off the first Chinook that lands in Damascus..
Yes the chickenhawks infect this board. What part of "broke" do they not understand? If they feel so strongly let them pay for it themselves
". I want her immediate family and all her cousins stepping off the first Chinook that lands in Damascus.." I agree.
Danielle is rattling the sabre and your sons and daughters will be at the blade's edge. How easy it is for people to send other people's children off to wa...particularly people in think tanks like Danielle.
dont even think about getting involved in Syria Obama. We did the same in Libya and Iraq and they hate us for it. What is other arab countries doing? Why is it always up to America to do things when they hate us so much? Its their internal problem let them deal with it. We have our own problems.
I believe we should intervene, but not at the moment. In order to be a benefit to other countries than we ourselves must be able to support our self. Perhaps after the recession lifts more and we have a solid foundation back, than we’ll have the money to support our troops leaving again.
Now, I’m not saying that an immense amount of troops are going to be sent out to Syria just like Iraq, BUT, I am saying that it will cost a lot of money. The world runs on money, war, and the desire to harness all the power possible. President al-Assad has a fear that he won’t be able to keep his power for long. Little does he know that attacking his own country in such a manner is actually the exact thing that’s going to tear him down.
“Revenge begets revenge. Hate begets hate”.
When the world tells the US for ten years to stay out of other countries problems. This is the result you get.
Exactly. Give the world 10 years of no US interference, and let them reap what they sow. Not our problem.
Send Obama there with a field pack and a .45 pistol and a couple of grenades....it is about time HE SERVED this country in the military that he PURPOSELY avoided in the past!
Hey pervert, Pres. Obama was NOT even born or was in baby diapers when the draft was adopted. Stop giving STD to to your grannies. Will ya?
How come ALL you psycho crazy GOPers are so uneducated, the dumbest humans on earth, retarded at birth, bigots, ignorant, chronic brain freeze wing nuts, human robots, imbecilic and extremely illiterate?
Come on spill it! GOP retarded wingnut.
I have to agree the Dallas person's comment was kind of dumb, but your not sounding so bright either!!
I say we help them but differently than we've ever done before. Let's not help them rebuild. Let's not help them educate their children or establish a decent government. What we need to do is F@#UCK them up beyond belief–more unimaginable than anyone can fathom. Let's destroy every building within a 20 mile radius of where their top leaders are. This way, people will actually respect our POWER again. That's fine if you want to hold on to some ancient dictatorship but if you attack your people or push the US, you will see our real ruthless power!
LET'S UNLOAD HELL ON THEM THEN LEAVE IN TWO DAYS!!
Ted, there is something very wrong with you. You realize that there are innocent people and children there as well, right? If so, then you, sir, are an ignorant piece of trash, and perhaps someone should take YOU out.
Ok then. You're right. Let's coddle them and send in our troops for 5 years, rebuild them and get thousands of our soldiers killed, 100s of thousands of their men, women and children and spend billions upon billions of your money. Either that or we send a message and don't have to worry about other wars for 50 years or killing millions through attrition like we have been. Take your pick.
Excellent analysis and i concur completely. Perhaps, we can await regional powers like Turkey and Saudi Arabia to declare their open support for the SRA and civilian patriots and annouince they will begin arming and supplying them. Thbat will give the U.S. and Europe the "go ahead" to join in if some countries directly involved take the lead,,,
From the article comparing Syria and Libya: "How does Syria not meet that standard?"
1. Libya has oil – Syria does not.
2. Ghadaffi was stupid enough to ANNOUNCE that he was going to rub out a city. al Assad has not.
3. Syria has a mutal defense pact with Iran. Libya did not.
4. Syria has terrain that makes it more difficult to attack than Libya was.
I'm probably missing a few other differences, but those are pretty key.
Permission of Israel is also a factor in decision which the most important one, and you missed it. Very sad very bad.
First you muslims don’t like anyone who doesn’t practice your so-called crazy religion.
You muslims should ask your so-called muslim brotherhood, al-qaeda, taliban and all the mohamed crazy fighters to save your Syrian brothers and sisters and leave USA and Pres. Obama ALONE. Americans are SICK and TIRED of fighting on your behalf yet; will kidnap and kill American Aid workers after the battle is won. You muslims think America parents or love ones including we people of good will don't feel the pains when our love ones are kidnapped and killed by your crazy lunatic muslims with impunity. A muslim is like a cobra. It will deadly turn on you in flash when you least expected. Let this Blood bath run for awhile to bring some sanity in the muslim World.
we need to act fast before unstability is created in this area which can damage the whole area
Who the heck are "WE" you refer to?
Speak for yourself. Will ya?
"WE " means the guys who are waiting for WW3D
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WHAT? We must do NOTHING for Syria... Why should we do something to benefit Syria when hundreds of civilians danced, cheered, clapped, sang and burned American flags in Damascus while the World Trade Center was collapsing with 3000 people inside... SCREW YOURSELF SYRIA!
For those of you who think it is our obligation to intervene and help the people in Syria, I have news for you... We will spend the money, sacrifice American lives, put ourselves in the middle of yet another worthless war, and guess what we will get out of it? NOTHING.
These people do not stand for the values we stand for, these people will spit in our faces if they could, these people do not know the meaning of the words tolerance, respect and shame, not even among them, forget about Jews, Christians, Atheist, Mormons or ANY OTHER religious group.
For them we Americans are just a group of infidels and imperialist who deserve the worst. So asking us for help is quite ridiculous. I have nothing against the Islam or Muslims, but they do have a lot against us
and sadly their mentality is backwards: you are with us or you are against us... they do not believe in a society we all can co-exist and live based on our own beliefs.
And it is sad, very sad indeed, that as of today we still have people in our country who forget things so quick and who don't realize the threat that this represents as more and more and more of them keep coming here.
Very good points you have. Bottom line, the middle east would rather see their innocent children die at the hands of their own rather than foreign "westerners" help them. These people have no respect for life and there values are not the same as ours. We cheerish our babies and see our children as our future and want the best for them. Unfortunately, they use their young boys as accessories to warfare and we all know what they think of women and girls.
This is a challenge to the Arab world: it is YOUR responsibility. Police your own, show the world that you can do it! Act! Prove that America doesn't have to be the world's policeman. We don't want to do it, and neither do the other nations of the world.
Let's don't get ourselves involved in another conflict which will cost us billions, maybe our soldiers' lives, and end up without a satisfactory outcome. Look at Viet Nam, Iraq, Bosnia, and Afghanistan. Let the people in that area of the world deal with the problem. We're broke.
I am absolutely sickened by what is happening in Syria. I've never had much of an interest in foreign affairs, until now. What is happening over there is devastating and horrible. It is the United States' MORAL OBLIGATION to step in and help, especially when Syria's innocent civilians are BEGGING and PLEADING for help. How can we deny them, or turn a blind eye? That is not who we are. Maybe we shouldn't always involve ourselves in certain foreign affairs, but I think this is definitely a situation where U.S. involvement is NECESSARY to save thousands of lives. Or, at the very least, we should hire an assassin to take out the dictator. SOMETHING needs to be done. Innocent people - EVEN CHILDREN - are being slaughtered like animals over there. It's so easy to shrug it off as you sit there in your comfy chair, when people over there are going through HELL. I can't IMAGINE what they are going through right now.
If America doesn't do something, then I will be even MORE ashamed to call myself an American. And SHAME ON YOU, CHINA AND RUSSIA. You callous pieces of trash! How can you not step in and do something? The blood of the innocent Syrians killed because of your refusal to get involved is on YOUR hands!!!
Since you admit never having paid much attention to foreign affairs, then you likely are unaware of many related things.
People want us to hit Syria, because Syria and Iran are allied. This is an excuse to get us into a wider war, and you're taking the bait. Some want a war with Iran in order to keep them from building a nuclear weapon. They want a nuclear weapon because they need it to destroy Israel, which they need to do to bring about the Mahdi, or 12th Imam – it's nuts, but it is the whole purpose of the Iranian regime. Self-preservation is not an instinct they possess; they're happy to martyr millions of Iranians to do this.
In short, this is a tinderbox, and people like you, running on emotion instead of reason, are the equivalent of flipping lit matches at it – thousands, maybe even tens of thousands will die if we do nothing. If we act, it will set off a chain of events where MILLIONS could die. And people who called for intervention would likely be ignorant of the fact it was their fault. YOUR fault.
That is why so many of us are not pulling our hair out over this. It's a shame – but it's not OUR shame, and it is not our problem.
The World at large didn't hear you furious and whine like this with mouth foaming fits when your own US Gov't FULLY supported evil, murderous white South African apartheid regimes or in any part of Africa of their murderous rampage assault against Black folks and massive massacre of Black school children in Africa a.k.a owners of their God Given country. Your idol cowboy Pres. Ronald Reagan fully supported their actions to the hilt and called them self defense.
Self defense my Black ASS!
That sounds good I hope when they need someone to go, you go and fight. Everyone say's we should fight but I do not see any politicians children going to fight in any war.
no melissa it isn't our "obligation". Go ahead and be ashamed because i'm ashamed of all these war mongering people
The US does need to do something to rid Syria of the Assad regime, but I we shouldn't be taking advice from the Heritage Foundation. They are the same people who got us into the ill advised Iraq war; they have no credibility.
The Syrian people are fighting for there freedom. We need to act NOW! Obama probably will do nothing but talk. No action. Why? Because this is an election year and he is only thinking of himself. He's pathetic.
Its easy to say send the military if you are not the one going over to fight. War is hard and people die, if we get involved its going to be a long and drawn out war. After about 6 to seven years of US soldiers fighting and dying I wander if you will still feel the way you do. Look what happened with Iraq and Afganistan people were for it then when people started dying and the years statrted going by people changed there tune quickly.
From a political and economical standpoint, the best thing to do is stay out of it. From a Christian point of view, we're supposed to go kill a few bad people to save a lot of innocent ones. God trumps power and fiscal issues everytime. It is someone's duty to humanity to help those people. To ask "Why the U.S. everytime?" is a great question to be debated AFTER something is done to save thousands of lives, but not while they are being slaughtered in the streets and in their homes by their own government.
Actually, advocating killing a few bad people is NOT the Christian perspective. It's "Thou Shalt Not Kill", not "Thou Shalt Only Kill the Bad Guys".
It's faulty logic like yours that causes some folks to do things like murder abortion doctors – after all, it's taking one life that is responsible for taking hundreds or thousands more. One person's bad guy is another's good guy.
It is also worth noting that the Christian minority, along with many other minorities, would likely be slaughtered or subjugated if the rebels (mostly Sunni Muslim) win. There IS such a thing as a fight between two bad guys. When two bullies fight – let them have at it and don't pick sides.
"- Syria was likely behind the murder of the former Prime Minister of Lebanon, an act for which it has paid no price"
This is where I stopped reading. Are you seriously citing this as one of the reasons for US intervention in Syria?
You are helplessly clueless!
Here is our chance to drain the swamp: syrian and iran ... the world will soon be without them.
We should use cruise missles against Syrian military targets, particularly those bombing the civilians. No need to put our troops on the ground there. Just send help to the civilians and the army defectors. But start now before it's too late. It was almost tool late in Libya.
In Libya people are still killing each other why are you not worried now?
Hey Danielle who wrote this article, why don't you read Husein's article on why we should stay OUT of Syria. Let the Arab spring brotherhood help them, or Egypt, or another country who has the same beliefs as them. The US needs to stay out of there. We have blown enough billions of dollars already, and for what? So they can hate us more. Most importantly, we don't want any more of our soldiers dying for people who obviously hate us.
remove China and Russia as Perm members
You're in a MINORITY. You can't have things your way.
What's is the size of your brain really?
Go back to Beki Beki Beki Beki Beki stan and fix it yourself, Akmed.
Add real evils USA, ENGLAND and FRANCE to your list of permanent members to show a real face of democracy from world power at UN.These countries should come forward and leave this right to show there real face of democracy.No body except they themselves believe that they are democratic countries with such a right.
No!
May God bless the children, women and elderly.
Hey, what about the men?
And dogs? What about dogs?
Just let Israel take both Syria and Iran out. The war will be over in 2 weeks. Israel will destroy both countries without breaking a sweat.
Why is there so much debate, Pros and Cons and much speculation about the Syria situation and the middle east,(humanity needs you) Wasn't the USA the last country to enter WW2 (after Pearl Harbour) when humanity needed them 2.5 yrs earlier in 1939?, as the Canadians and Brits fought the big battles right from the get go, but its funny how the USA got most of the glory.
How 'bout fixing the problems in our country first?
So you want another Iraq? Years of war not to mention lives and national treasure lost. Haven't we learned yet? There are bad things and bad people in this world and we can't make them all behave as we want. Stay the heck out this time!!! We are NOT the worlds police force.
As if it needs rebearing, aren't these the same people that were chearing after the 9/11 attacks, burning the Us flag and jubilent in their streets as we were morning the lose of thousands of our countrymen. What concern should it be of ours after 11 years, terrorists seem to "reap what they sow"!!!
The Palestinians did that. I'm not sure if the Syrians did also or not, but for sure the Palestinians.
They were cheering on 9/11 because they knew that USA dug a hole for them but fell into it itself. Remember USA created Osama in cold war.
Reap what you sow! Reap it! I feel bad for the innocent women and children caught in this calamity. I would also caution against involvement, this is not our place to police. Let the "region" work this out, if their willing. Libya grasped its own destiny, as the Syrians must also do. Good luck, God Bless and good bye!!!
Yeah, right. Don't see many US flags burnin there today! I guess their busy with other things!!
I'm more concerned with our own countrymen. Our starving children, our neighborhoods, our veterans, OUR people!!
The American flags will start burning as soon as we step in to help them. Muslim killing Muslim is a win/win situation.
Let it be.
What about the world war situation, Christians killings Christians . Was this also a win / win situation.
The Syrians did that. The Iranians did it, and the "Palestinians" also, among others! Our fallen countrymen would expect us to remember this!
To all those collectively who have stated that the US should avoid involvement in Syria, or any country whose citizens are being persecuted/executed, I offer the following. The US and its closest, reliable, and responsible allies have no other choice but to defend the rights and lives of the persecuted because it is at the core values of who we are, and too many other nations are either led by the tyrants who are the root of the problem or lack the courage to protect those human beings who are the victims of tyranny. Russia, China, Iran and other similar brutal oligarchies are the enemies of our species, and are too fond of torturing their own citizens to be depended upon to protect humanity.
5th Marine, here is the problem, unless you have read one of the rebels posts here. He calls President Obama a liar. They are interested in installing the Muslim brotherhood.. The Muslim brotherhood considers Americans infidels. They will come back and kill us later....just like Egypt,just like Libya...the rebels are not are allies they are our enemies.
The question is why would we help people who have disdain for us by changing from one hostile regime to another.
If the people of Syria were grateful for our help, and we helped them to a democratic society and they became our allies that is one thing. But the rebels are also our enemy and if we save them they will eventually kill us.
a'men brother, I think we have a moral obligation to step in when it starts becoming a turkey shoot. there is a right way and wrong way to do this. It's high time we at least make an attempt to stop tha carnage. Let history and God judge whether we should or should not. Get in, get out and let the people of Syria guide their future.
Yup, Assad sure needs help from America's caterpillar – to dig a hole, deeper than Saddam's, in his last days.
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It is good to help the Syrian to continue in pursuing their freedom and to get get rid of their dictator Assad, however it is just like the Philippines: people power made their demand,freedom! Filipinos used their unity to get rid of the Marcoses and Imeldas including her 30,000 shoes! Syrians, get united as one to fight your freedom: you do not need any stinking HELP from outside or from the West specially from us the USA...do your own job for your own freedom! USA is not your big brother and you have no no big brother just the Iranian, go and ask your bother Iranians!
Before talking about democracy and dictators and giving us lessons, can you please leave your write of veto at UN so that we can see your democratic face.
it's already started .... just wait and u will see why Obama has real balls .. he he
We have people occupying sidewalks and defecating on public streets because they can't find jobs, the unemployment rate is dropping not because people are finding jobs, but because they've given up looking. The government is bailing out homeowners who got in over their heads at the expense of homeowners who acted responsively and the national debt has tripled since the liberal agenda began in 2006.
Never mind Syria. We're taking America back in November.
George Bush told the Russians to go f....themselves and he went on and removed Saddam and his regime from power,
Russia has no muscle to stretch anymore, it's become a big (Syria like) country with dictator Putin in charge, why do we
the United States of America, have to kneel before Russia and China ? we still are Super power and we still can remove Assad and his brutal regime from power without having to worry about what Russia might thinks of us.
Dani: You are right! America is the great country. So if you want to go to Syria now and f..... themselves – nobody will be able to stop you, neither Russia, no China. That does not mean though that they must be together with you on that and vote for it. RIght? Why would you expect their approval at all? Why are you so upset and so angry? Just go and f..... yourself! Be a man, do it! Do it any time any place!
P.S. Just assume that Russia and China were concerned about situation in Syria alone. That their position there was not about US at all. And that is what their veto reflects. I hope it will make it easier on you.
you love America then do not fight for the sake of Israle.
http://counterpsyops.com/2012/01/13/henry-kissinger-if-you-cant-hear-the-drums-of-war-you-must-be-deaf-accurate-satire/
I'm tired of this. The usa is not a world policing force as of yet and people think that it should or shloud not be. when these countries have problems it's THEIR PROBLEM!!! They cry and cry come help us but when we do thay spit on us and call us names just cuz they could not solve it them selves. When (not IF!!) the USA throws open the union and excepts other countries as partners what will people say about those countries wishing to join us? that we conquered them? that we coerced them? NO!! they will say thatthey are cowards who wish to tie them selves to our skirt strings.
But that is also untrue. they just wish for peace and prosperity that other countries cant really give them. and they will make the usa both stronger and weaker for it. the other countries will condemn the us for it but cant really do anything about it because they are willing and freely joining our union.
I did not get you . What is your point ?
the whole iran/isreal problem is really quite simple. ask isreal if it would like to join the union and lets see the arab world stew on that for a while. I garantee that they all will think twice about attacking isreal and when they do (not IF!!) they will have our boot up their ass and their people rebelling so bad that we could move right on in with the peoples blessing.
as to the whole syria problem: Do you honestly think they want america there? we come in, kick assad to the curb, then leave, leaving militants in charge of the country. What's changed? who did we help? the people? the terrorists? they will put people in power who may or may not hold onto the power we died to provide them and we'll probably have to deal with their problems for the forseeable future. I say ask iraq if they would like to join us as a state. ask egypt! ask libya! if they so no then pull out any us charity or aid and give that to people who actually want us there. responibility is a good thing but not if weakens us to our enemies. and thats what all this foriegn aid is really doing to us.
here is the man who loves America soooooo muuuuuuch!!!???
Please see this link and you will understand why do we need to go to war with syria.
http://counterpsyops.com/2012/01/13/henry-kissinger-if-you-cant-hear-the-drums-of-war-you-must-be-deaf-accurate-satire/
Who me??
Who are u talking to???
http://counterpsyops.com/2012/01/13/henry-kissinger-if-you-cant-hear-the-drums-of-war-you-must-be-deaf-accurate-satire/
Wow. The folks on the boards at that link thought that was a serious interview – it's even LABELED as satire!
to whomeit may concern
Again, I say why do I care? Who are these people that decided to finally go against there so called terroist loving leader that Im told, so it seems. Look, I think your all nuts. Nicely at that. I understand everyone has a reason to keep pushing towards ww3. Well if that's all the human spirit really has left, then I can't stop you then. Violence is just a path down to more violence. If you really wanna help these people out, sign some peace refugee thing where you can take those people out. If the number is crazy, like 90 % of the population, then, well, you have to go in. But via the UN. If russia and China didnt budge then, Id be very surprised. Remember, we all want people to have the basic freedoms we enjoy, but realistically they arent living in that system.
the problem with your premise is this: if syria (or any other country for that matter) would accept us or anybody else doing that (the whole refugee release thing ) they would have no power base but other people who want power. trust that scenario to end the world faster than ww3 would. both sides would end with so much internal and external fighting that war would become the only industry in the world. mainly refugees vs tyrants. and then the refugees would be open to tyrants from the inside because the non fighters would be in trouble because they have no will to fight. one of the things that war proves is that we will not lie down and take tyrants.
The United Nations should help with U.S. doing our part. The world should be poking Russia and China who are holding up world help to Syria.
We need to do something now. If we dont step in even more innocent people will die. How many more deaths over in syria will it take to get us to do something about it. Last time i have heard it was at 6000. It is probably more now.
You (USA)have triggered this uprising and now you are writing "innocent people dieing". Shame on you
تجمع اهالي بغداد .. يستنكر مسلسل اغتيال الناس الابرياء التي تقوم به قوات الحكومة العميلة بين الحين والاخرفي معظم مناطق بغداد المحتله .. التي كان لها ولايزال شرف مقاومة الاحتلال الامريكي واعوانه الاذلاء خدم الصهيانية وخدم بلاد فارس ..
شبكة المنصور
الجبهة الوطنية والقومية والاسلامية – تجمع اهالي بغداد
استنكر تجمع اهالي بغداد في لقاء صحفي على لسان متحدثه الرسمي .. الشيخ عبدالكريم الشمري والذي تحدث عن هذه الجريمة البشعة قائلا;
مرة أخرى تكشف قوات الحكومية العميلة عن وجهها الكالح وعن انحدارها الأخلاقي والإنساني السئ الذي وصلت إليه تلك أجهزة العملية .. التي تجردت وتبرأت بعضُ عناصرها تماما من الانتماء للدين والوطن مؤكدين صدق انتمائهم وولائهم الى قم وطهران ..كونهم بالاساس عناصر من فيلق القدس الايراني واطلاعات ايران الاجراميه التي تغلغلت في اجهزة الجيش والشرطه.. وبقيت هذه العناصر حاميـًا وحارسـًا ومشاركاً لكل جرائم الاحتلال وسوطا يلهب ظهور الغيارى الأحرار في عراق الجهاد ومستهدفة الناس الابرياء وخاصة في مناطق حزام بغداد الجهاد .. مثل مناطق ابي غريب والرضوانية الغربيه و الرضوانية الشرقيه ومنطقة اليوسفية ومنطقة التاجي والطارميه والراشديه ومنطقة المدائن واخيرا ماحدث في منطقة هور رجب ,, و ماسيحدث في المستقبل القريب في مناطق بغداد الاخرى.. التي كان لها ولايزال شرف مقاومة الاحتلال الامريكي واعوانه الاذلاء خدم الصهيانية وخدم بلاد فارس..
واضاف الشمري قائلا : لاغرابة في ان نرى اونسمع بين الحين والاخر جريمة قتل جماعية تستهدف الناس الابرياء الامنيين في بيوتهم في بغداد أوفي اماكن اخرى من العراق .. فهذا مسلسل مبرمج مدروس بعنايه تقوم به عناصر من فيلق القدس الايراني المسيطره على المفاصل الرئيسية لقوات الحكومة العميله والذي تتحرك بحرية تامه في المناطق التي تشرف عليها تلك القوات العمليه امنيا وبدعم من حكومة الهالكي العميله وعن طريق مايسمى بدائرة مكافحة الارهاب والتي هي اساسا منبع للقتل وللارهاب في هذا البلد الصابر.. وهذا ماحذرت منه الامانه العامة للتجمع في بيانها الرقم 128 بعنوان (بأي ذنبٍ يقتل العراقيين) من ان هناك مسلسل قتل جماعي مستمر في استهداف الناس الابرياء. ولا نظن يوما ان أفراد هذه الأجهزة وتوابعهم من المتورطين في هذه الافعال الاجرامية الدنيئة يتوقفوا عن القيام بها.. بل نحن في الامانة العامه لتجمع اهالي بغداد على يقين تام انهم مستمرون على هدر القيم والحرمات واستباحة دماء بناء شعبنا العراقي الكريم..!!
واستطرد الشيخ حديثه قائلا : ثبت لنا باليقين التام بان جريمة اغتيال 25 شخصا من بينهم خمسة نساء من اهالي قرية البوصيفي في هور رجب منتصف ليلة الجمعة في الثاني من نيسان الجاري قد نفذتها عناصر حكوميه اقتحمت خمس بيوت بسيارات عسكريه نوع همرونفذت حكم اعدام جماعي باسلحه كاتمه للصوت .. ولااعتقد ان احدا من العقلاء في داخل العراق وخارجه يصدق الادعاءات المفبركه الباطله لحكومة الاحتلال برميها التهم المتكرره عند الانتهاء من كل عمليه اجراميه .. على مايسمونه بالمجاميع الارهابيه ..
وفي ختام حديثه قال الشيخ الشمري : إننا في تجمع أهالي بغداد نستنكر هذا العمل الإجرامي الخسيس وهذه المجزرة البشرية الاجراميه البشعة .. ونطالب جميع أحرارالعالم اينما كانوا وكل الشرفاء الغيارى .. لاسيما الهيئات والمنظمات السياسية والإنسانية وجمعيات حقوق الإنسان ذات العلاقة في المنطقة والعالم بالوقوف الى جانب شعبنا العراقي الكريم باستنكاروادانة هذا العمل الجبان والدنيء ومحاسبة مرتكبيه وإلى تحمل مسؤولياتها الاخلاقيه والقانونية والانسانيه تجاه مايحدث من ظلم عظيم لابناء شعب العراق..! وأن يضعوا حداً لهذا التلاعب بمصير الشعب الآمن وبارواح الابرياء التي تزهق يوميا دون ذنب اومبرر.. كما اننا نحمل قوات الاحتلال الامريكي وحكومته العميلة المسؤولية الكامله على ارتكاب مثل هذه الجرائم البشعه ..!!
’’الله اكبر ’’الله اكبر ’’عاشت المقاومة الوطنية العراقية الباسلة ’’ عاش العراق العظيم’’
رحم الله شهدائنا .. شهداء العراق .. شهداء فلسطين .. شهداء العرب والمسلمين
الموت والخزي والعارالى المحتلين الغزاة وأعوانهم العملاء الأنجاس’’خدم قم وطهران ..
We just need to mind our own damn business, let the rest of the world deal with it for a change!
If you can please leave your veto right at UN then we can deal with it. I will be thankful to you for this favor.I assure you no US citizen will die after this and you will live peacefully in USA. Your Tahir
Here is a simple solution!
I disagree with what has happened over the years as any other american, But NOONE wants to see innocent people die just becasue their presidents wants them too, it would be like our president doing that to us, It wouldn't be allowed to go on, He would be killed!
So simple but long solution, Shoot asaad, Then let them all figure it out. If you take him out, No more orders would be to kill, If the next president called for more killings, Then I guess our hands would be tied. I understand all that has happened and what is going on, But some one with mass power SHOULD NOT be allowed to kill innocent people just casue they can.
Long story short, Sometimes the gift of life is worth more then power to anyone. Help them and defuse the problem and let the people figure out what is next. I am aginst children being killed over power, They didn't ask for it, Nor should it be allowed. UN step it up!
"The tree of Liberty must be fertilized from time to time with the blood of Patriots!" Let those people fight and die for what they want, not our USA troops. We've seen in both Afghanistan and Iraq that American lives mean next to nothing! I'm tired of spending our youth for those that hate us and want to see us destroyed so let those in the region help fight against Asad. It it is given to them, then it's worth nothing in the end. They MUST fight and die for what they believe in!!!
AMERICA........STAY OUT OF THIS!!!!
Don't you need middle east oil. What about the Israel, you have created it and now have to defend it.
I am gay and my boyfriend left me. I mood is swinging !!
Syria is about Israeli-US funding of armed, sniper, forces, along with bribes to higher military officers, in a typical coup scenario. Billions of dollars stolen from the US taxpayer during the bailouts is now surfacing in funding these "Arab Spring" rebellions. The irony of the Syrian "Facebook" protests is that they were set up by foreign intel (US-Israel) to draw the innocents out, and then gun them down with Mossad snipers at exact locations. It was a planned slaughter. Only the Jewish controlled CNN type media is repeating the lies that the Syrian casualties are Assad's fault. Nobody, no one in the US general public of any education, believes the Jewish CNN lies. We all know. The Syrian, like Libyan debacle is the result of billions of dollars of US taxpayer money spent to slaughter the Syrian civilians and claim it is Syrians doing it. Just as the Bolsheviks were funded by NYC bankers. We've seen this all before, from Nicaragua, to Vietnam, to Libya, and now to Syria. US-Israeli funding of corrupt and naive elements within the target nation and killing the innocents.
The Islamofascists on either side of the Syrian conflict, whether they support ASSad or the insurgency, would cut Fareed Zakaria's head off, throw his little Indian body in a ditch and post the video on You Tube.
Syria is about Mossad and US snipers killing innocent civilians. It is a foreign funded civil war. The Billions of US tax money which disappeared in the bailouts, is now appearing, as funding these Libyan, Egypt, Syrian "rebellions". Everybody knows this. Get some Israeli Jews and say "want to go kill some Arabs", come with us to Syria, we'll set you up on rooftops, we'll organize the Facebook "gatherings", you just shoot them.
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عودة المجرم الارهابي المدعو ( ابو علي البصري ) المستشار الامني لنوري المالكي
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بعد هروبه بطائره خاصه وبدون تاشيره الى خارج العراق بعد افتضاح عملية هروب الارهابيين من تنظيم القاعده المرتبطه باستخبارات الحرس الثوري وعددهم ( 12 ) ارهابي معتقلين في سجون القصور الرئاسيه في البصره حيث اشرف على عملية هروبهم الى ايران باشر المجرم ابو علي البصري في مهامه كمستشار امني لنوري المالكي بعد عودته السريه مع تكليفه بمهام جديده هي الاشراف على الخلايا الخاصه لحزب الدعوه وهي مليشيات مسلحه مقرها الرئيسي في محافظة بابل والجدير بالذكر ان ابو علي البصري تم تعينه مديرا للامن والمعلومات في مكتب المالكي بناءا على توصيه من قاسم سليماني كون المذكور عمل في جهاز السافاك سابقا وعمل فتره طويله في جهاز استخبارات الحرس وبعد تعينه كلف حصرا بالاشراف على عمليات التعذيب للسجناء من اهالي نينوى وديالى وضباط الجيش العراقي السابق والبعثيين المعتقلين في السجون السريه التابعه للمالكي وكان هذا المجرم يمارس التعذيب بحق السجناء حتى الموت وترمى جثثهم خارج حدود مجافظة بغداد .
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المرافق الشخصي لابراهيم اشيقر الباكستاني وحقيبة ( Emergency bag )
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وردتنا معلومات من مصدر مقرب من مرافق ابراهيم اشيقر الملقب ( الجعفري ) مفادها ما يلي :
سئل المصدر مرافق " الجعفري" عن سر حمل هذه الحقيبه عند مرافقته للجعفري في كل تنقلاته اجابه بما يلي :
1- الحقيبه تحتوي على مبلغ قدره ( 200 ) الف دولار .
2- اقلام ذهب .
3- ساعات يدويه ثمينه .
4- مستمسكات شخصيه خاصه بالجعفري ( منها عدة جوازات سفر ) .
وتبين للمصدر من خلال الاستفسار من مرافق الجعفري ان حمل هذه الحقيبه تحسبا من وقوع امر طارئ وبدورنا نفسر هذا الامر الطاري ( تحسبا للشلعه السريعه )
هؤلاء هم قادة العراق " الجديد " الحراميه ولا نستغرب ما يفكرون به لانهم اشباه رجال جعل منهم المحتل " رجال" .
Let us know the exact reason why we feel sorry for the Syrians. We ignored them for years. What is happening now? Let us know the exact reasons why we should get involved.
You are also ignoring African and there people are dying due to hunger.As far as I know Syrians were having at least bread, vegetable and meat to eat and clothes to wear. Please first help Africa and supply them with food then we will really believe you real love Syrian.Please don't show your love for Syrians before removing hunger from Africa
Something has to be done about the Syrian government, but why must it always be the US that leads the way? There are many other democratic countries on this planet yet none of them have the guts to stand up for anything, but themselves. If we have to then supply the UN with arms and then have an international organization intervene. And if we must intervene ourselves then lets do it right. Fly over bombings of the government facilities. We have plenty of technology to wage war and keep our troops here at home. We can waste bombs, but do not throw the lives of our troops away for these people, because they would never do the same in return.
to all those who keep saying "stay out of it" you are forgetting that America is what it is today because of our patriotism, compassion and the will to always do the right thing.
to stand and watch babies being slaughtered and men getting de-skinned and say not our fort, is not "the American way!" we don't help people for immediate gratification. we help people because we are a great country! If you actually see the blood bath in Syria, you will take another look at yourselves.
Do you know who helped Israel to kill children to build the state of Israel when Jews left Europe. Please read history carefully.Killing children in the name of democracy is a US history.Go and see how many children get killed even before Bush Jr started war due to sanctions in Iraq.Come out of dreams.With such history soon you will become South America without any body's help.Come out of the cartoon and try reading history. Don"t always boast after listening presidential speeches.
We need to Draft all young White Americans to go fight and die for Greater Israel. We stand by while the Gaza Gulag kills Palestinian children, because Jews are chosen and superior to us regular humans. When the young brazen and lazy of America are drafted to die for Israel, then we shall know what America doesn't stand for at all.
You have created it now you have to die for it.There is no way out. Bad things results in bad things. You created Osama and Israel. Both demanded Americans lives, sorry you have to live with it now.
Fareed has another article saying that 17% of U.S. citizens live in poverty, and of 34 top nations, we are now 31 and falling. 20% of our children live in poverty. Instead of fooling in Syria's problems, we need to take care of some of our own. The only solution for this country is to start putting corporate criminals in jail. Their rapacious greed and fraud is bringing this country into 3rd world status. Rmoney would exalt them and finish the destruction.
Soon you be among the South Americans due to your foolish killings for democracy.
USA should take the full responsibility of taking this dictator down, because in middle east no president assigned without USA green light, USA who assigned our leaders even our ministers, and in last some ppl here saying its not our problem, yea i agree it is not your problem, but its your country political policy problem
A good nuclear war between China and USA over Arab oil would be a good thing. It would wise up the young chickenhawks fast. Suddenly Israel and its gulags wouldn't be so interesting. In a war between China and USA, China would destroy the USA with nukes and China would still have hundreds of millions of people to carry on the victory and rule over Arab oil. Bring it on.
Why don't you stop and think a second about what the consequences could be of arming the Free Syrian Army. We could be inadvertently arming outside terrorists, we could be simply adding to the bloodshed (because, contrary to popular opinion, the opposition HAS unnecessarily fought back in many cases and murdered government officials), and we could be contributing to a bloody sectarian war that has already spilled over into Lebanon. Think about what you are suggesting: in order to bring peace to Syria, we are sending in more arms. That is what is truly hypocritical.
The best thing we can do right now is continue to pressure Russia into working out some sort of compromise with the al-Assad regime. Peace will never come to Syria until BOTH sides cease the violence. Further, a legitimate and stable government will never be formed until this peace has been achieved.
The world should stop playing with this area of the world, and get deadly serious. First you cut of the head of the snake and take out any potential nuclear threat. The whole world knows if you top Iran,, Hezbollah, Hamas and then Syria will fall. That's a long way to cleaning up that part of the world, and whilst the world is busy with this exercise, we could turn a blind to the Israelis cleaning up their own back yard. This could be accomplished with conventional weapons, but many of them, a real boon to American manufacturing jobs. Who knows, it may even kick-start the world economy. Win, win?
China needs the Arab oil. Israel is against the Arabs. China needs to step in and clean out the Jews of Israel, really clean it well as you say. With the US $15 Trillion dollars in debt and the GDP leveling off, China will have the manpower to destroy the Jews of Israel and bring lasting peace to the Arab oil region.
All I have to say is arming Syria sounds alot like the whole middle east thing we find ourselves in. We have them weapons when they were fighting the soviets and now the very weapons we gave them are being used against us. We would have to be stupid to do it again. I believe it is our job to stop stuff like this anywhere in the world, but when it is totally impossible or highly improbable our FIRST goal needs to become top priority. Our 1st goal is to protect AMERICANS.
Sad to think that you are apart of a country that will just let this thing go on but........reality sucks sometimes and I have a bad feeling that if we helped it would somehow bite us anyway.
More than likely President Obama would like to do something, but after the vicious backlash that was adminsterd by the Republicans over his use of any intervention and force in Libya do you wonder why he might be a bit reluctant on this one.
The radical left (move on) has hammered Obama far more than the Republicans or any other group on this issue with his record of not ending the Iraqi and Afghani wars immediately as a campaign pledge that he broke in the first few days of his presidency! Further more, the fact that he started 2 new conflicts in Pakistan and Libya without congressional approval pretty much sealed his fate with many of these supporters! ...Obama can not afford to continue to compromise which he currentl does now on a regular basis further damaging hs ties with the left!
قتلى بسوريا ومعارك بين الجيش ومنشقين
آلية للجيش السوري في مدينة دوما بريف دمشق (الفرنسية)
قالت الهيئة العامة للثورة السورية إن 25 قتلوا اليوم برصاص الجيش السوري، فيما تحدث ناشطون في الوقت نفسه عن اشتباكات جرت الليلة الماضية في مناطق متفرقة بين الجيش السوري ومنشقين.
وأوضحت الهيئة أن شخصين قتلا بنيران القوات السورية في ريف دمشق بينما قتل الثالث في حماة.
وكانت الهيئة العامة للثورة السورية ذكرت أن 36 قتلوا أمس بنيران الجيش والأمن السوريين في درعا وحمص وإدلب والحسكة ودمشق.
دبابتان تقصفان حي بابا عمرو بحمص (الجزيرة)
قصف واقتحامات
ميدانيا أيضا, نقلت رويترز عن الناشط محمد الحسن أن الجيش السوري قصف الليلة الماضية حي بابا عمرو بالقسم الجنوبي من حمص حيث قتل في غضون بضعة أيام ما يقرب من 500 مدني.
وأضاف الحسن أن الجيش قصف أيضا حي الوعر بغرب حمص, مشيرا إلى أنباء عن هجمات شنها الجيش الحر على حواجر المليشيات المؤيدة للنظام (الشبيحة).
وقصف الجيش السوري الليلة الماضية أيضا بالأسلحة الثقيلة مدينة الرستن التي ينتشر فيها الجيش الحر وفقا لناشطين. وتحدثت وكالة الأنباء السورية الرسمية من جهتها عن خطف مجموعة مسلحة ضابطا برتبة عميد في حي القرابيص بحمص.
وفي سياق العمليات الميدانية أيضا أشارت لجان التنسيق المحلية والهيئة العامة للثورة السورية إلى اقتحامات وعمليات دهم في القورية بـدير الزور, وفي بيبلا بريف دمشق, وبصرى الشام بدرعا.
كما اقتحمت القوات النظامية أحياء في حماة, بينما أشار ناشطون إلى إطلاق نار من الجيش السوري في داعل بدرعا. وقالت لجان التنسيق المحلية إن الجيش السوري أطلق النار بكثافة الليلة الماضية عند الحدود مع الأردن مما دفع الجيش الأردني إلى إطلاق قنابل مضيئة.
اشتباكات وهجمات
وقال الجيش السوري الحر في بيان إنه هاجم رتلا عسكريا في القلمون قرب جسر معلولا وأعطب ثلاث دبابات.
المنشقون صارت لهم شوكة في
بعض المناطق السورية (الجزيرة)
وقال ناشطون من جهتهم إن اشتباكات جرت الليلة الماضية بين الجيش السوري ومنشقين في خربة غزالة بدرعا.
ووقعت اشتباكات متزامنة في درعا البلد استخدمت فيها الرشاشات الثقيلة وفقا لناشطين. وفي درعا أيضا, تحدثت المصادر ذاتها عن كمين نصبه منشقون لقوة عسكرية نظامية مما أدى إلى جرح عدد من أفرادها.
وفي الرستن بحمص, انشق عسكريون بينهم ضباط, وأُعلن في المدينة ذاتها عن تشكيل كتيبة محمد الفاتح التي ستعمل تحت لواء الجيش السوري الحر.
وقال ناشطون إن جنودا منشقين هاجموا حاجزا للأمن في كفر حلب بمحافظة حلب دون الإشارة إلى إصابات.
وكان ناشطون قالوا إن اشتباكات جرت عند المدخل الشمالي للرستن بين القوات النظامية ومنشقين قتل فيها ثلاثة من الجنود السوريين. وفي حماة, جرت أمس اشتباكات مماثلة قتل فيها ثمانية من الجنود النظاميين، وفقا للمرصد السوري لحقوق الإنسان.
مظاهرات
في الأثناء, تظاهر آلاف السوريين الليلة الماضية في عدد من المحافظات للتنديد باستهداف حمص ومدن أخرى, والمطالبة مجددا بإسقاط نظام الرئيس بشار الأسد.
وتحدث ناشطون عن مظاهرات في أحياء جوبر والمزة والقابون والسيدة زينب بدمشق. وفي منطقة دمشق أيضا, حاول متظاهرون قطع الطريق السيارة بين العاصمة السورية ومدينة درعا في مستوى نهر عيشة لكن قوات الأمن تصدت للمظاهرة بالرصاص.
وأشار ناشطون إلى مظاهرات ليلية متزامنة في دوما وقدسيا ويلدا وعرطوز والضمير بريف دمشق. وتحدثوا عن احتجاجات مماثلة في داعل ومناطق أخرى بدرعا, وفي حزانو بإدلب, ودار عزة بحلب.
ونظمت مظاهرات أخرى مناهضة للنظام في الرقة, وكذلك في الحسكة. وأحصى ناشطون 25 ألف شخص شاركوا في مظاهرة بمدينة ديريك بالحسكة.
If any American troops get sent to Syria Obama should be impeached.
Please first impeach Mr Bush so that we can believe you and your democracy.
II think we have armed enough people in this world, who after some time, has turned the guns on us. We need to stay out of this, even though the situation is a tragedy.
This tragedy is developed by USA. Why there is no such tragedy in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and U.A.E.
fk u all Iranians fk Syria bashar al asad fk Hezbollah and fk all those who love shiia cult ,, shiia marry their sisters and cousins
We need to stop saving these other countires. you know damn well they will never help America. Sure lets get more of our soilders killed for another country.
Your soldiers get killed because your want more Oil and want to protect Israel. Nothing is free in this world.
There's no sentiment for further involvement and loss of our greatest treasure (people) over sovereign states inability to govern themselves. Our national interests lie in free trade (ie flow of oil, natural resources) not in nation building. Other than that the peoples of the world need to sort out their divisions through the United Nations. We the People would be far greater off if we defensibly prepare for the inevitable mass conflict and its aftermath rather than trying to keep a lid on the boiling cauldron of our overpopulated world.
how about your children getting deliberately targeted, tortured, killed... would you want that any of those with power to stop it, to actually do it? I know I would.
Who has triggered so that Syrian regime torture people and children.USA always trigger such moves and then the people get killed in the name of democracy.It supports terrorists against government in the name of democracy..It should stop support to terrorists in the name of democracy, no body will kill nobody's children.
The only thing America should do is kill them all. Someone farts and the price of oil goes up, their sons want a raise in their million dollar allowance and the price of oil goes up. Get us off the dependence of foreign oil and watch them kill each other.
Am no American but I believe this view expressed by Danielle Pletka is absolutely ludicrous. So much more you condemn Obama for not taking action on Syria. I doubt if you have the slightest idea what international diplomacy means. You authoritatively suggest that the West is wasting time siting round the table dialoguing while thousands of lives are been slaughtered. This is not a Mussollini or Hiltler ear where despots would wake up one day and decide to occupy another country. This is why the UN was founded. Hence, when you understand that, clean your dirty mouth before you come back and we would consider your opinion. I can bet you are there living in the US as one of it's citizens once a refugee of a war-torn country, yet you have the effrontery to talk bad of that Great Nation. Doubt you also know the story of how Americans saved Iran from the hands of Iraq and the consequent betrayal by same Iran who is now developing nuclear war heads, biting the American fingers that saved them from eternal destruction. Please next time share your opinion with your family in your bedroom and give people with intellectual capability and unbiased minds space to share their opinion on this platform.
Soga.
the usa has enough problems @home to take care of, let the other countries fend for themselves for a change
if we send money ,the people that really need it don't get any
Solution :
aerial bombardment for two weeks to destroy the military power of Bashar al-Assad to stop massacres .
We all know very well the Americans like bombing and blood. It first triggers revolts against Governments who are not US puppets and then pretend to help people in the name of democracy to kill more people with the suggestions of the people of your mentality.
No one except these three countries (USA, England and France) themselves believe that these are democratic countries with veto right at UN.They make people fool in the name of democracy to get their own benefits.They will never leave this right so that democracy can prevail.Be careful of their democracy slogans.
Thaier Souri
دمشق
لقد أثبتت روسيا أنها بلد محكوم بمجموعات مافيوية لا يعنيها من أمر البشر الا مقدار ما تجققه من مكاسب, و أثبتت أن لا منظومة أخلاقية تحكمها و ربما تحكم شعبها, و ربما كانت هذه خطوة أخرى حاسمة في انحسار الدور السوفييتي السابق الذي اضمحل الى حجم روسيا و لا ندري الى ماذا سيضمحل لاحقا, و كل ذلك بسبب غياب الركيزة الخلقية الداعمة للمواقف المعلنة أو الغير معلنة
73 MOURAD
ALGERIA
روسيا و الصين تشعران بتواطؤ اوروبي امريكي يهدد مصالحهما الاقتصادية
72 عفوا سوريا ومعذرة
الاردن
النظام السوري وما يرتكبه من مجازر بحق شرفاء سوريا الشام العظيم ما هو الا الفساد والبطش بعينه وما هو الا للحفاظ على مصالح فردية لفئة علوية طغت وتجبرت وتقمصت دور الممانعة والقومية العربية وهي تلك الفئةهي التخاذل والجبن متمثل على وجه الخصوص بشخص بشار الاسف وزبانيته. شلت يمينك يا من تطلق القذائف والقنابل على شعب حمص الاعزل ودرعا وريف دمشق ودير الزور فوالله رجالهم رجال ونساؤهم خير الحرائر . الله على ظالم جبان
71 الفجر
يا لها من مهزلة يا جماعة كل هذه الجرائم منذو ١١ شهرا انتهت بكلمة في الجمعية العامة بادانة .هدفهم جعل من سوريا صومالا اخر.على فكر هل اسرائيل ايضا نددت ام كانت مع...سعودية تصيغ القرارات ومصر توزعه وروسيا تعدل بالقرارات والمعارضة الخارجية مشغلون برئاسة المجلس الوطني والشعب يقتل على يد من لا احد يعرف
70 ليث
السويد
لافروف زود عميله بشار بالاسلحه وهو والصين يديرون عمليات قتل الشعب السوري وبشهود احد الضباظ المنشقين..روسيا اصبحت في الجانب المخزي من التاريخ ..ولافروف يتحجج يالقاعده وكانه القذافي ..لا ينقصه الا ان يصيح ..زنكه زنكه دار دار..بس يقوله بالروسي مافي مشكله المترجم موجود.
69 عربي حر
سوريه
اعرفوا يا عرب ويا مسلمين ان نظام السوري ونظام الحاكم في ايران وحزب الله واسرائيل هي جميعا اوجه لعمله واحده افهموووووووووووووووووو
68 سوري
syria
كم اكره اي انسان يقول سوريه الاسد يا اخي دوله كامله تربط بشسخص يوجد في سوريه امكانات رهيبه وسوريه لجميع الطوائف والاديان الذي يقول ذلك هو انسان لايعيش الا ياكل او امي حتى ولو كان متعلما
FK IRAN NOW ALL OTHER TERRORISTS WILL FALL , LIKE BASHAR AL KALB IN SYRIA AND HIZBOALLAH, WE MUST ALL ATTCK THEM AT ONCE NON STOP DYA AND NIGHT CUT THE SUPPILES AND MONEY FOOD AND MEDICIN , THOSE EVIL ARE WORSE THAN HITLER.
FK AL KHOMINI FK AL SESTANI FK AL MAHDI FK IRAN AND IRAQI SHIIA FK ALL THE STUPID JA3FARI AND SHIIA THUGS IN SYRIA AND IRAN, FK YOU ALL SHIIA THUGS IN SYRIA AND LEBANON.
Don"t show us your real American face we already know your real face as a killer in a name of democracy for your interests.
western intervention in Muslim countries simply does not work,the only way they work is the 91 Gulf War model,get in,crush the enemy,get out,leave it to who ever to pick up the peices. or the initial 2001 Afhanistan model,arm youre enemies enemy,and let them cut them out,with close air support. Occupations only give the terroists time to turn public opinion against you. Just like on here,Al-Queida claimed responsibility for the majority of the civilian casulties in Iraq,but you still have misinformation spreaders saying that "American slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people in Afgh and Iraq",that is our thanks for our sacrifices!!!
Somolia and Iraq tell us we cant win when we try to help muslims,Afghanistan was not intervention,it was a search for retribution and justice,is the right of a sovern nation to return fire when it is attacked,although in hindsight we should have been lookin in Pakistan all along,how much do you want to bet that Pakastani Troops escorted Osama and is entourouge out of Tora Bora,to his new house they built for him in Pakistan. But anyway,moving on.
we didnt intervene in Iran in 09,or in Georgia in 06 when Russia attacked them to demonstrate the penalty for trying to join NATO,and we are in worse financial and domestic shape now!!,and another war would put us in the same economical shape has the USSR was right before it collapsed!!,and even though we couldnt afford it,the draft would have to be renacted to increase the size of our military to late WW2 numbers!!!
it all boils down to this, you dont run off to help youre neighbor put out a grease fire,when youre own house is burning down!!
and if you must have intervention,Look at all the tragedy and suffering that the drug lords are inflicting right next door in Mexico,I bet they would be surprised to see US Marines taking the place of the Border Patrol. An intervention in Mexico would effect the immigration problem(they wouldnt cross illegally if they had jobs and security at home),and give the US a more stable ally,not to mention make it safer for US college students to travel to cancun without the risk of being kidnapped for ransom.
What do you mean by intervention.Going there and crushing them according to you is not an intervention. What an analysis. You look a real American fool.
We are here in Syria suffring from the terrorests and armed opposits
and we bilieve that we can solv our internal matters by the syrianpeople
we don't need any interfere
keep away Obama
If there was oil in Syria like Iraq then USA and the NATO will care about the Syrian people and democracy.
USA doesn't do any thing to save the lives of the innocent Syrians who are killed every day by the Syrian regime; because Israel wants Assad to stay.
Shame on all civilized world who witness the killing of children without trying to stop the criminals.
Assad should go now before he leads the region to civil war.
Civilized world ?? Have you forgotten how many innocent people and children were killed in Iraq due to US Bombing and even due to the sanctions before Bush Jr attacked Iraq. Shame on you for using civilized world for the west. Fighting against your Government is a terrorist activity, remember prophet Mohammed never fought to people of Mecca when he was living in Mecca in early days. If you are living in a country you cannot take weapons in hand. Wall street protesters will also face the same fate as faced by Syrians anti government terrorists if they take weapons in hand.
USA and Nato should support the free National Syrian army against the Syrian regime.
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