By Reza Sayah, CNN
Many U.S. politicians and Israeli leaders call a nuclear-armed Iran the greatest danger to world peace.
“An Iranian nuclear weapon is one of the most frightening things we have to confront,” Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich told his supporters in Iowa earlier this year.
In his speech to the U.S. congress last year Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said, “The greatest danger of all could soon be upon us – a militant Islamic regime armed with nuclear weapons.”
The narrative by those who fear Iran most goes something like this: Iran is ruled by mad mullahs and a deranged president who are secretly building nuclear bombs and could be crazy enough to use them - therefore they must be stopped, even if it means attacking Iran first.
But top U.S. military officials and leading analysts say the frightening rhetoric about Iran doesn’t always match the facts.
One of the most alarming claims is that Iran poses an “existential threat” to
Israel. This view has been called into question by top U.S. officials, including the nation’s highest-ranking military officer, General Martin Dempsey.
“I also understand that Israel has national interests that are unique to them. And, of course, they consider Iran to be an existential threat in a way that we have not concluded that Iran is an existential threat,” Dempsey told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria last month.
Neither Washington nor the U.N.’s nuclear watchdog have accused Iran of actually building bombs. U.S. officials say they believe Iran is trying to develop a nuclear capability that could lead to production of a nuclear bomb. Iran’s leaders have called nuclear bombs “un-Islamic” and insist their nuclear program is for peaceful purposes, powering plants to generate electricity. However analysts say the conflicting claims create an atmosphere of uncertainty that serves as a deterrent in a “keep them guessing” defense strategy.
But what if Iran had nukes?
Many U.S officials and analysts say they don’t believe the regime’s leaders are trigger happy.
“I've been confronting that question since I commanded Central Command in 2008,” Dempsey told Zakaria. “And we are of the opinion that the Iranian regime is a rational actor.”
“They haven't shown themselves to be suicidal,” says Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran expert with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “What's paramount for Iran's leadership is to remain in power and so if you're a suicidal regime you usually don't survive for 33 years.”
Former senior advisor to U.S. President Barak Obama, Vali Nasri, said Iran’s leaders “have ambitions of grandeur, not ambitions of destruction.”
But hasn’t Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeatedly said he wants Israel “wiped off the map”? Despite widely held perceptions and his often confrontational tone, neither he nor other Iranian leaders have threatened to directly wage war against Israel.
Analysts and Farsi speakers - the Iranian language - say Ahmadinejad’s initial statement in a speech in 2005 was misinterpreted. They say he was not calling for an attack against Israel, but the ouster of its government in favor of one Palestinian state, with Israel no longer recognized as a nation.
“Iran has consistently rejected Israel's existence since 1979,” Sadjadpour says. “They have supported groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah who agitate militarily against Israel and for that reason Israel fears were Iran to acquire nuclear weapons, it would embolden Iran to double-down and support these rejectionist groups it has supported for all these years.”
“When he [Ahmadinejad] said ‘wipe off the map’ - that there would be an explicit military operation to do that - that’s not…what he said,” Nasr explains. “But the political intent of what he said is unambiguous, which is to deny Israel’s right to exist and to encourage the Arab’s to do so as well.”
An Iran with the capability to build nuclear bombs could also lead to a major shift in the balance of power, creating instability in what is already one of the world’s most volatile regions.
And that’s enough, analysts say, for Israel, the U.S. and their allies to be very worried.
© 2012 Cable News Network. Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
| Advertising practices | Advertise with us | About us | Work for us | Help
Reblogged this on thelittlep.
Yes, Netanyahu can't forget what Ahmadinejad did. In December 2005 the Iranian president triggered further controversy by explicitly calling the Nazi Holocaust of European Jewry a "myth". Two months earlier he sparked international outrage when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map". No doubt Nethanyahu has the right to capitalise on Ahmadinejad's anti-Semitism to jusify his aggression towards Iran, although we in the West find his fear baseless. Instead of thinking about his popularity among his supporters, he should think about the global security.
Baseless? Islam wants Israel gone, period. And they will use whatever weapons are at hand to achieve that goal.
So what if he said it? The reality is that if Israel had its way, it would have already carried out total genocide against the Palestinian and Labanese people. And the only reason why Israel hasn't done so YET is simply because of fear of reprisals from the international community. Since 1948, Israel has recklessly and purposely carried out a systematic campaign of brutality, oppression and genocide against the Palestine and Lebanese people, using their American made war machines indiscriminately, dropping cluster bombs and rockets on refugee villages, hospitals, schools and on a clearly marked UN compound with peace keepers. Let's face it, Israel is the real threat to global peace and stability!
Actually what your posted is a "myth" Ahmadinejad called for an investigation into the Holocaust and to verify the findings and numbers, he never stated it didn't happen.
"Wiped off the map" refers to regime change, not physical destruction, in case there were any idiots who didn't know that by now.
Synth...
Since the Imam Khomeini left this world at least 16 (SIXTEEN) Israeli governments replaced each other. Each one of these governments was democrativally elected by all citizens of Israel. Therefore, all Iranian leaders wanted was regime change, not physical destruction, their requests were satisfied no less than SIXTEEN times... in case there were any idiots who didn't know that by now.
J. Von Hettlingen!!!!!! And on what basis you find Netanyahu's fear baseless? On your intelligence research? If you write something bring logical and intelligence proofs and evidence based facts.
Read Freedom Next Time by John Pilger. You'd know whats really happening on the ground there.
Iran will not nuke Israel. The explosion and aftermath would kill muslims as well. Look up a map of Isreal and all the muslim people around it. Now look up the radius of a nuke and all the aftermath that occurs. Unless they are insane...they will not do it. (yeah I know....you are assuming they are insane,......whatever)
In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad discussed candidly a strange, paranormal experience he had while addressing the United Nations in New York last September.
He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech. But this wasn’t the light directed at the podium by the U.N. and television cameras. It was, he said, a light from heaven.
According to a transcript of his comments, obtained and translated by Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin, Ahmadinejad wasn’t the only one who noticed the unearthly light. One of his aides brought it to his attention.
The Iranian president recalled being told about it by one of his delegation: “When you began with the words ‘in the name of Allah,’ I saw a light coming, surrounding you and protecting you to the end.”
Ahmadinejad agreed that he sensed the same thing.
“On the last day when I was speaking, one of our group told me that when I started to say ‘Bismillah Muhammad,’ he saw a green light come from around me, and I was placed inside this aura,” he says. “I felt it myself. I felt that the atmosphere suddenly changed, and for those 27 or 28 minutes, all the leaders of the world did not blink. When I say they didn’t move an eyelid, I’m not exaggerating. They were looking as if a hand was holding them there, and had just opened their eyes – Alhamdulillah!”
Ahmadinejad’s “vision” at the U.N. is strangely reminiscent and alarmingly similar to statements he has made about his personal role in ushering in the return of the Shiite Muslim messiah.
He sees his main mission, as he recounted in a Nov. 16 speech in Tehran, as to “pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance.”
yah give this guy a nuke ...retards
The only reason why Israel strokes the fire against Iran is to divert attention from its own failures and a lack of resolution on the Palestine State. This is an old worn tactic to divert attention while enslaving a whole race of people.
Wrong, Mike......the operative phrase you should take from this article is: Iran is NOT suicidal.
The Quran specifically states that all Jews should be killed.
Iran is not a threat to the US so who is dictating our foreign policy?
The candidates for the GOP all claim Evolution and Climate Change are a myth despite overwhelming scientific evidence. All sides have public figures that make dumb, dogma based statements.
I would like to understand why the US has the authority to decide who does and doesn't get nukes. Did they bomb Isreal for developing nuclear weapons? Why can they have them, but we need to bomb Iran if they get them?
The US is the biggest nuclear power in the world with the biggest military and the only country ever to use nuclear weapons, EVER! While I don't want Iran or anyone else to get the bomb, I understand why countries like them want one. Its to keep the US from invading.
Here's some education for the ignorant posting about what the Quran says... here's the source of the truth:
"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians - whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69 among several additional verses).
Iran has never in its history attacked another country.
@Neko
The Quran specifically states that all Jews should be killed
Where does it specifically say that?
Actually he didn't deny the Holocaust. He said that the total number of victims in the holocaust may be an exaggeration and Israel uses Holocaust to shore up support and to justify its apartheid against the Palestinian people.
netanyahu is a master at pimping the Holocaust for his own political agenda. Ahmadinejad is not Hitler. Iran is not Nazi Germany. "Existential threat" is without substance but it has a certain effectiveness when playing on the guilt feelings of the West. If the West doesnt support Israel attacking Iran, the argument goes, then the West is supporting the destruction of Israel. And so it goes. Israel is so dominated by paranoia and hysteria that the concerns of the global community are not its own. It will bomb.
Neko:
Quran calls Jews the "Children of Israel" and no where in Quran it says that all jews must be killed. It also calls Christians and Muslims "Children of Israel", and requires every Muslim men/women to believe in the holy scriptures (Torah and Bible) and the messengers of God (Moses, David, Jesus, et. al.)
I hope Iran does go with a Nuke because I do believe they will use it. When they do, Iran will be no more and we will only have to worry about the other 12 Muslim nations.
Sorry, but if this is a simple matter of choice between trusting Iranian versus Israeli credibilty, I will side with Israel everytime. Sorry, Tehran but your word stinks. Israeli has never varied. Israel's primary concerns haven't changed since the beginning of recorded history and certainly not since 1948... their concerns were and remain largely existential. And will remain so.
Qur'an 2:61 "Humiliation and wretchedness were stamped on the Jews and they were visited with Allah's wrath."
Qur'an 4:44 "Have you not considered those to whom a portion of the Book has been given? They traffic in error and desire that you should go astray. But Allah has full knowledge of your enemies. Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places, saying, 'We hear and we disobey' with a twist of their tongues they slander Faith.... Allah has cursed them for disbelief."
Qur'an 4:47 "O you People of the Book to whom the Scripture has been given, believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming and verifying what was possessed by you, before We destroy your faces beyond all recognition, turning you on your backs, and curse you as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be executed."
Qur'an 4:160 "For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) in that they hindered many from Allah's Way, that they took usury, though they were forbidden, and that they devoured men's wealth on false pretenses, We have prepared for those among them who reject [Islamic] Faith a painful doom."
What? You thought I was spouting BS like you.
Furthermore,
Ishaq:250 "The bestial transformation occurred when Allah turned Jews into apes, despised."
Qur'an 59:14 "The Jews are devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so they will end up in Hell."
Ishaq:254
Qur'an 2:96 "We will not remove a Jew from the punishment. They know the shameful thing that awaits them."
Qur'an 4:55 "Sufficient for the Jew is the Flaming Fire!"
Qur'an 88:1 "Has the narration reached you of the overwhelming (calamity)? Some faces (all disbelievers, Jews and Christians) that Day, will be humiliated, downcast, scorched by the burning fire, while they are made to drink from a boiling hot spring."
Tabari VIII:116 "After his return from Hudaybiyah, Allah's Messenger marched against Khaybar. He halted with his army in a valley between the people of Khaybar and the Ghatafan tribe to prevent the latter from assisting the Jews."
Ishaq:264 "A notable Jew spoke to the Apostle, twisting his tongue. He attacked Islam and reviled it, so Allah sent down, 'Allah knows best about your enemies. Some of the Jews change words from their contexts and say: "We hear and disobey," twisting their tongues and attacking the religion so Allah cursed them.'"
And this rhetoric goes on and on...
And,
Qur'an 98:1 "Those among the People of the Book, who disbelieve and are idolaters, would never have been freed from their false religion if the Clear Proofs had not come to them. An Apostle of Allah came reading out of hallowed pages.... They were commanded to serve Allah exclusively, fulfilling their devotional obligations, and paying the zakat. Surely the unbelievers and idolaters from the People of the Book will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures."
Qur'an 5:78 "Curses were pronounced on the unbelievers, the Children of Israel who rejected Islam, by the tongues of David and of Jesus because they disobeyed and rebelled."
Qur'an 5:80 "You see many of them allying themselves with the unbelieving infidels. Vile indeed are their souls. Allah's wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide."
Qur'an 5:81 "If only they had believed in Allah, in the Prophet, and in what had been revealed to him."
Qur'an 5:82 "You will find the Jews and disbelievers [defined as Christians in 5:73] the most vehement in hatred for the Muslims."
Ishaq:262 "Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur'an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse."
Qur'an 2:59 "We sent a plague upon the Jews from heaven, for their evil-doing."
Bukhari:V4B56N679 "Allah's Apostle said, 'Plague is a means of torture sent on the Israelis.'"
Bukhari:V2B23N457 "The Prophet went out after sunset and heard a dreadful voice. He said, 'The Jews are being punished in their graves.'"
"And they will use whatever weapons are at hand to achieve that goal."
Mike, you have no idea what you are talking about. Please stick to the facts and not an emotional repsonse inspired by the western media.
Muhammad started Islam with instructions from the devil. Why does the koran justify killing of innocent people? Only devil knows.
@thinker23, a regime isn't based on one person, if you bothered to read or perhaps simply look up the word on webster you may realize that the word 'regime' in the context you use means a form of government. FAIL!
Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."
The US Overthrew Iran's only democratically elected government in the 50's. The US which is more than likely controlled by Israel, is the greatest threat to global peace. I am more worried about the terrorists in congress passing indefinite detention, and patriot acts then I am about Iran.
Halleluhah to that brother!
Your interpretation of events, past and current are misguided and ignorant. The US overthrew nothing. Iran has had decades to "correct" anything they wanted to, and have not. Their country is their responsibility, its not the fault of the US. As for the rest of your nonsense, you are more than likely just some coward who sits on his comfy couch, living the life that most of the world envies, but has no courage whatsoever to make a difference. You, sir, are human garbage.
You are correct. The US helped replace an elected president with the Shaw. A serious mistake. Our Iran policies have been a series of blunders ever since!
Couldn't agree more about the Patriot Act
Agree with Huh?, you are either believe nonsense or you are lying. The US did not overthrow any Iranian government and we provided them aid for many years. They could have chose another form of government at any time. Iran chose fascism and slavery.
Operation Ajax, you fools. Educate yourselves. Peter is absolutely correct.
HorseCentz and Huh, Mohammad Mossadegh was the leader of the Iranian people and was elected in 1953. He had just won against the British in International court and had stopped the British from basically stealing Iranian Oil. This was not acceptable to the British and the Americans. The Shah of Iran was in Italy at that time. With the help of the CIA (read operation Ajax) the democratically elected government of Iran was overthrown and a brutal dictator replaced it. I guess that surprises you since from the time we have been in school they have told us how ou country fights for freedom. In this case, we fought against freedom.
I went to college in America and have a 4yr BA degree. The Ph.d's debated this issue long time go, Iran is a peaceful country with it's own culture and social norms quit different from the United States, It's nuclear program is for peaceful purposes and it is also, to conserve Iran's oil reserves. The United States is an agressor and war monger and it's only purpose is to exploit resources in Iran. In fact many CNN columinst have concurred with this opinion in the past. What amazes me, a Liberal news organization and liberal colleges sympathized with these nations that oppress women. A guy a couple years ago warned us about Iran? what was his name? George, George??? does it really matter, Snooki is pregnant and Jersy shore is on.
Sarcasm, where did you attend school? Berkley? You sound like someone from the San Franfreako area.
went to college in America and have a 4yr BA degree
good for you , go flip the burgers
Sarcasm, it must me quite pleasing to live within your own reality, ignoring historical events or actual facts, just simply using your self-hate and ignorance as the basis for your arguments. Go read a few books, cleanse yourself of your antisemitic, anti-democratic bent, and give yourself a chance to develop into an educated person. I know, I know, its going to take a loooooottttttttt of work. Good luck. You are really going to need it.
When will Israel make peace with people whose land they stole? It continues to cause trouble in the middle east by trying to divert attention from its own lack of progress and failure to resolve issues that hinder peace with all Arabs.
San Fran Freako, flip burgers? Nice to see we're all adults here. Sure, Sarcasm is an idiot with an agenda, but you won't catch me calling him that.
Contrary to the U.S., Iran hasn't attacked any other country. The only recent war they were in was with Iraq, which was goaded into attacking Iran by Reagan. The C.I.A. supplied Iraq with the poison gas that they used on the Iranians and the Kurds. Tens of thousands of Iranian soldiers died. The U.S. has attacked and occupied two of Irans neighbors. And we wonder why Iran feels it needs nuclear weapons to protect itself? Why is the American Public so easily fooled and sucked in by Government propaganda.
It will be so satisfying for me to fire you some day soon. That day is coming.
Sure thing Abdul, and the sky is what color in your world??????????
You are correct of course!
wow,I'm glad all the replies to sarcasm MISSED the sarcasm completely.WOW
finally a balanced assessment, surpirsed it would come from CNN.
but the israelis (special as they are) can not accept facts; they know everything and the rest of us are but stupid idiots.
makes you wonder who the REAL PROBLEM is.
Agreed.
They knew 9/11 was going to happen before it did. That's enough for me.
Yep, I have wondered what the Real Problem is. The answer is simple, like you. Have you ever done any research on Jewish accomplishments? You would be amazed.
A balanced assessment? I would love for him to name one, "top U.S. military officials and leading analysts say the frightening rhetoric about Iran doesn’t always match the facts." Another pro Iran CNN article. They are well on point to have one a week.
Neko...Iran's accomplishments far surpass Israel's. What's your point?
I don't like the idea of letting the Iranians get a nuclear weapon and hoping that they won't use it. I think it is unlikely that Iran would use it, even through proxies. However, it is sufficiently plausible that it is worth preventing, even militarily.
The ONLY nation that has used Nuclear weapons is the USA. There are many Nuclear Nations at present including Israel. If Iran does go for Nuclear weapons so what? Big Deal. Of all the nations that have Nuclear Weapons apart from the USA Israel is the only other Nation that would use it.
Abdul, Abdul, Abdul, do you even think before you speak. You are advocating the killing of millions of people, including Muslims. Are you insane?
Well at the end of the day, why would israel need to justify its right to defend itself from aggressors if she wiped them out. Hezbollah Iran and Israel are giving each other the right to have a race to arms. Peace does not favor any of these sides.
Hezbollah will losse its power, there will be no need for his arms israel is wiped out. same applies for Iran and it's nuclear weapon saga. also for Israel there would be no need to receive military support from its allies any longer if peace was to happen. the very simple reason Israel is gaining affection of super powers is because of aggresors , if those are gone the only thing left to expose is the atrocity happening in the West bank, and Gaza.
Israel is not gaining the affection of the super powers just the US.
Why all the "excitement"? No one stopped No. Korea from making nukes, Pakistan says they have nukes, Israel certainly has US made nukes! Let Iran waste their resources, what would they ever to with a nuke? NOTHING! Iran is only "yanking Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's chain"! Iran knows that Israel is the "trigger happy" country, so they antagonize and tease Israel until Israel makes a move! If Israel were to attack Iran today, the whole middle east would come done on them and make Iran's wishes come true! No one would dare launch a nuke, no one! Any country that tries to launch a nuke today would be erased by the US military. They all know it! Iran and No. Korea are both just playing dangerous games with the west. No. Korea gets a good deal every few years, free food and oil! Soon, Iran will present their "wish list" to the west to "stand down"! Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu seems to follow the Bush idea of WMD's. He is being used by Iran, skillfully!
Iran has learned from Al Qaeda which learned from US President Ronald Reagan.
Provoke an arms race that one knows will cause your advisary to bankrupt itself. That is how the US defeated the Soviets and they are now doing to the US.
that man is so ugly!!!!!
Ugly is as Ugly does.
Mr Sayeh forgot to include in his piece that the nuclear threat is not only from Iran but also from its proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas. Imagine these terrorists with nuclear weapons in their hands. Western countries will never understand that concept because they are not on the front line of the war like Israel is.
Iran is a huge threat to world stability.
And Israel isn't a huge threat the world stability?
No the Isrealies are not a threat because their government isn't INSANE like Iran's is.
Last century we had six major wars, this century so far two. Seems to me, we enjoy wars other wise we could have found ways to avoid them. Each side calls it a moral war. In the United States no one botheres to ask why the Miiddle Eastern States are anti American. We turned it into Muslim Christian issue. This religeus issue did not exist in its currenr high pitch until the creation of Israel. But no mater the cause, humans just like killing and wars make it legitamet. War will come no doubt about that, this time Iran and next time? not to worry will find a reason for that too.
Just Think when USSR split up the only people who were sad were the Arms Industry. Without a senseless war somewhere who will the "merchants of death and mass destruction" would sell their lethal merchandise?? Not surprising that Israel is stroking the fires of cooked up danger against Iran. This diverts attention from their (Israel) own failure in bringing about a Solution to the Palestine Issue with meaningful talks. The Peace Dividend would bring security and prosperity to Israel but not to its arms industry.
Peace has been defined as the exhaustion between wars. We are bombing in five Muslim countries and they see it as a religious war! Surprise!
bottom line like the prime minster said- this is how they act now without the bomb- how will they act with it. Leaders in the middle east don't care about there own people- any attack on Israel would be unwise-
Iran has done nothing suicidal except offend Israel.
Israel WILL defend itself from annihilation from a tehran iran that is admonishing the destruction
of israel... Israel WILL attack iran, the despotic regime. We are at a crossroad. Iran does not
have much time left, before Israel strikes hard at iran's nuclear sites...
IF they do not strike soon or now....then they will face possible annihilation by iran's madmen.
If iran is developing medical isotopes to cure medical ills, then WHY hide in mountains to
do so.
NO iran is developing nuclear missiles to strike Tel Aviv or other Jewish provinces.
Not searching for peaceful use of nuclear technology. Any one which states that
Israel is descendant from monkeys, pigs and blames Israel for AIDS in the world is bent
on attacking Israel...WIPE OFF THE MAP as ahmadenijad has stated.
NO, there is NO medical research. there is a deceiving, hidden research of atomic energy
for bombs to attack Israel..
NOW , Iran will be facing a devastating neutralization of nuclear technology.
They have only themselves to blame.
Anyone who feels that dying is better by killing others and themselves by reaching
paradise with virgins is insane. as this iranian regime is INSANE.
Israel with the allies will stop this insanity before iran attacks Israel.
The consequences I am afraid from this certain Israel attack will most likely be a 3rd world
war. However, Iran will not be able to destroy the holy land as they will not have
reached nuclear missile capability by cause of Israel's attack on iran.
You may say that the world as you knew it , will be no more.
What you have taken for granted, will soon be gone forever.
Inevitably, we are facing a 3rd world war. And it is necessary, to stop mad
iran from reaching nuclear capability of missiles to begiven to proxies such
as hamas, hezbollah and other terrorists.
I would rather have iran stopped now , than face a nuclear iran bent on destroying
themselves and the world.
Iran MUST BE STOPPED AND WILL BE STOPPED!
All Hale Norm The Sock Puppet For Israel! Hail! Hail!
If Israel wants a war with Iran, then Israel can wage a war with Iran. Leave the US out of it. Oh, what's that? Israel is a powerless little puddle of puke without the US? That's right.
And before anyone accuses me of being anti-semetic, I'm not. I despise the Israeli GOVERNMENT and it's murderous policies in the middle east. That has nothing to do with how I feel about Jews or Judaism.
In case you didn't notice . Israel has kicked every middle eastern countries asses every time they tried to invade Israel. What makes you think Iran is any different. Israel could destroy Tehran without setting foot on Iranian soil.
Israel WILL defend itself from DESTRUCTION from a tehran iran that is admonishing the destruction
of israel... Israel WILL attack iran, the despotic regime. We are at a crossroad. Iran does not
have much time left, before Israel strikes hard at iran's nuclear sites...
IF they do not strike soon or now....then they will face possible annihilation by iran's madmen.
If iran is developing medical isotopes to cure medical ills, then WHY hide in mountains to
do so.
NO iran is developing nuclear missiles to strike Tel Aviv or other Jewish provinces.
Not searching for peaceful use of nuclear technology. Any one which states that
Israel is descendant from monkeys, pigs and blames Israel for AIDS in the world is bent
on attacking Israel...WIPE OFF THE MAP as ahmadenijad has stated.
NO, there is NO medical research. there is a deceiving, hidden research of atomic energy
for bombs to attack Israel..
NOW , Iran will be facing a devastating neutralization of nuclear technology.
They have only themselves to blame.
Anyone who feels that dying is better by killing others and themselves by reaching
paradise with virgins is insane. as this iranian regime is INSANE.
Israel with the allies will stop this insanity before iran attacks Israel.
The consequences I am afraid from this certain Israel attack will most likely be a 3rd world
war. However, Iran will not be able to destroy the holy land as they will not have
reached nuclear missile capability by cause of Israel's attack on iran.
You may say that the world as you knew it , will be no more.
What you have taken for granted, will soon be gone forever.
Inevitably, we are facing a 3rd world war. And it is necessary, to stop mad
iran from reaching nuclear capability of missiles to begiven to proxies such
as hamas, hezbollah and other terrorists.
I would rather have iran stopped now , than face a nuclear iran bent on destroying
themselves and the world.
Iran MUST BE STOPPED AND WILL BE STOPPED!
@Listening is better than Talking...one of my favorite versus.
My point of view as your average American is that Israel should back down. If Israel attacks Iran, we (America) are going to be dragged into a war that we really don't want and truly cannot afford. Iran is not Iraq, they have sophisticated weaponry and trained soldiers who will do a lot of damage to us. I believe that we would win a fight with them, but at what cost? Israel is a brutal regime that brutalizes the Palestinian people on a regular basis and maybe they should be stopped. Not everyone supports Israel. Ahmadinejad never said that Israel should be wiped off the earth, Israel did. If they're getting paranoid (Israel)- so what! This is their problem caused by their actions and we should stay out of their conflict.
@Neko: Really? Please cite the sura and verse that explicitly states that all Jews should be killed in the Qur'an.
Have you read the Qur'an?
Do you speak Arabic?
Do you have any knowledge of this at all?
Please stop spreading messages of hate when you have absolutely no grasp of the situation. Sincerely, the World.
Haha, you're so right! He's getting this stuff from his head. I have read Quran and hatred is definitely not being talked about in Quran. It does talk about how Muslims were deceived by Jews a few times though.
The US controls every country in the middle east (Qatar, Kuwait, U.A.E, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Jordan, etc) only two countries have not been taken over by the US : Syria and Iran. They are not the invaders and aggressors We Are! This is such amazing bulls**t – its so sad that people are so easily duped. This was an article that failed to address the central point. Why are the war drums beating ? Do you have any idea how many foreign infiltrators are surrounding Syria – how dangerous what we are doing over there is to real people ? Destroying these countries has made them miserable. Let peaceful countries like Brazil and China negotiate. Not the bloody invader country we have become. It is so sad.
So you saying imperialism and colonialism?
From the history, the United State is more of a threat to the world than Iran. Nuclear-Armed or not won't change this in the foreseeable future.
The racist apartheid state of israel is, by far, the biggest war monger in the middle east. Fortunately, more and more americans are now realizing that israel has become a major liability for america going forward.
This is as absurd as can be.
LC – How is that absurd? Do you just expect us to think it's absurd just because you say so? We're tired of Israeli-backed mouthpieces like you insulting our intelligence while draining us of blood and treasure through senseless wars...
This is no less (and no more) absurd than other tons of racist cr.p over the free world of the Internet.
Well, "realizing" or "brainwashed"... there is definitely growing hatred of Israel and Jews in general, in the U.S.
And that is the shame of America; that people like yourself are so woefully misinformed, yet think you have the facts.
Well said concerned american. I too feel for the tax payers.
Rich in TX
Well, "realizing" or "brainwashed"... there is definitely growing hatred of Israel and Jews in general, in the U.S.
No your wrong , about 61% support Israel and 14 % support for palestinians . we are not called big satan by you muslims for nothing .
I agree! Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is much too anxious to start the next war! If he starts it, the USA will have to come in and try to finish it. Wonderful! Our successes in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Pakistan don't provide much optimism for success! "Shock and Awe" solves nothing!
Israel has NEVER asked Americans to fight in it's War of Independence, the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, or the 1973 Yom Kippur war. What they are asking for is that the world be serious in its sanctions against Iran so that the West does not appear weak. A military strike by the Israelis seems less liekly to me if it is 'an option' by the USA.
It is in America's interest that Iran does not acquire nukes. They support terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, have attempted assasinations on American soil, nd likely have sleeper cells in the US. What if one of those had access to nukes in one of our cities? Don't forget the Iranian terror attack in Argentina in the 1990s.
@ tada: "No your wrong , about 61% support Israel and 14 % support for palestinians . we are not called big satan by you muslims for nothing ."
You misunderstand. I'm not Muslim, nor am I against Israel. As an American who supports Israel, I've noticed an increase in the ignorance of my countrymen on the issue. 61% of support is dwindling if it used to be 80% support.
Ignoring the facts won't make them go away; there needs to be a pro-Israel PR push with the American public, to get the truth out.
And what history is that? You must prove that the US actions have been more detrimental then all the dictators and regimes past and present. Good luck with that. Also, "concern american" how is Israel the biggest war monger in the region? 6 million jews surrounded by hundreds of millions of of muslims calling them less then human and the need to wipe them off the map...you sir might be insane, brainwashed or both. or maybe just ignorant.
Punkass, you spout more Israeli propaganda. In fact it was Ariel Sharon who called Arabs "dogs" and dehumanized them as he expanded the settlements illegally and murder innocents in Sabra and Shatilla. And America is the only nuclear nation that used the atomic bomb on its enemy in the history of mankind, so yes America is the greatest threat to mankind on this earth and Israel is a truly racist apartheid state.
You guys need to calm down. Tone it down and seek common ground. A stable middle east is the goal and that will require mutual security guarantees for Israel and for Iran. History will get in the way. reasoned dialogue is necessary for progress.
Good Call John Walsh...Now why can't we get that voice of reason in our world leaders?
Who do you think has been supplying these so called terrorist regimes.. U.S. gave arms to Iran, Iraq, Ossama, Egypt, Israel.. and the country that had the most hijackers in 911, U.S. is giving military aid to the Saudis.
Why do people still throw out there that America was the only nation to use a nuclear bomb? Of course America used one roughly 67 years ago. And at the time it was used, America didn't realize the true force it would produce. Hence why America or any other nuclear nation hasn't even mentioned using the bomb. Due to everyone understands mutually assure destruction (M.A.D.). And maybe the Iranians would understand MAD, but the issue is that Iran is not liked from the Sunni Islamic nations. Therefore, creating a proliferation of those nations wanting their own nuclear weapons. As well as, Iran could easily provide the materials, blue prints or a bomb already essembled to one of their terrorist organizations they support. Iran has been and still is fighting via proxy and could well use a crude low yield device on an enemy via hamas et.al.
If Iran was sincere in what their nuclear ambitions were, then they wouldnt be refining and enriching nuclear ore to 20% or a bit above. Only 3-5% of enrichment is necessary for nuclear energy. And 15-18% for nuclear medicines. They went to 20% and above because they want to know they can do it. Nuclear scientist say that once you hit that 20% mark, then you're capable of enrichment to 92% which is needed to make it weaponized.
Essentially, Iran is not responible enough at this time to be in possession of a nuclear weapon. Would you give a 8 year old a loaded gun with the safety off and just tell them to play with it safel? I don't think so and that's why Iran shouldnt have a nuke. A lot of elements in islam have not caught up to the modern era of todays society. And many of these elements are in high positions of government. Islam hasn't matured and their mentality is where christians were 300-400 yrs ago. All they know and respect is violence and use of force. The brutality of islam is too unpredictable to allow to have a nuke. Many people refuse to acknowledge this or go public with what I said regarding islam. But, that's what you get for being poltically correct. P.C. will be the west's down fall if we continue to bury our heads in the sand.
And I'm basing the aforementioned accessment on islams "Actions" and not their rhetoric.
You can't even say anything wrong or make a simple cartoon depicting mohammed without setting these people off into a wild frenze riot. In which people are killed and several others severely wounded. These actions are taken place in western democratic societies too. So, when are people going to open their eyes and see that the problem is Islam and in how brutal, immature, unstable and irresponsibly these people and their governments are. If we don't recognize this soon and stop being politically correct in not wanting to hurt their feelings. Then this will be the decline and ultimately the end of western society as we know it. God bless you all, because we're going to need it. The world has a cancer and it's called islam.
Tzion... The Palestinians in Sabra and Shatila were massacred NOT by Sharon and NOT by Israelis but by the Lebanese Christian Arabs who had enough reasons to love Palestinians even less than the Israelis love them.
Pinkass, you need to read history to get it.
you are eather missinformed, or a lier. The torah says flat out that all no jews are sub-human, and the koran makes no such claim. The jews are more raceest then the richest white man in america during the peak of slavery in america. Isreal wants all the muslems gone, and the muslems just want a peace between isreal and palistine. Personally all thiests should drink the cool-aid and be done with it, they are all stupid ignorant r-tards.
Our crazy leaders are going to get all of us killed. The common Iranian does not see a need to have a nuclear weapon. The only thing that will achieve is getting millions of us killed. They are crazy, everyone of them in government, they are crazy. SEE, saying I am Iranian does not make me Iranian...so calling yourself a "concerned american" does not make you an American. A true American would capitalize "American"!
Mr. Iranian!!!??? this is not your field to leave comment !!!just read your comment is look like you belong to somr
other area like politics , here need education and higher knolledge that you don,t have ...childish comment like this
just make other commentators dissappointed please leave here and go where your area is mercy?
darim: I assume that English is not your first language...or even your second or third. You sound very ignorant when you write like you did. I assume you are from middle-eastern heritage?
US is only dangerous if the country is Doin crazy things. Iran is ok the us is more worrie dif the government makes wpns of mass destruction and the their government falls apart. Then the next question who will get a hold of them. If you noticed US does not attack until another country invades another country or when it looks like the country is going down hill(yes it is over resources/ the world economy). On average it is about every 10yrs. If China rises above the U.S. it will have to do samething regardless of what ppl think. China, Russia, and US are very much tied together in the world econ. So if China rises to power they have to protect their economy and best way is to make sure most countries stay as they are or become more stable for business.
Iran with no nuclear weapons is zero military threat against nuclear superpower Israel.
Israel is in possession of hundreds of nuclear warheads. More importantly, it possesses the most advanced delivery systems in the world including nuclear powered ballistic missile firing submarines. A nation with zero nuclear weapons does not attack another with hundreds. Even if (a hypothetical) Iran did some day acquire a nuclear weapon (to secure itself from vicarious nuclear attack) it could never use it against Israel because of the intertwined nature of the Palestinian and Israeli populations. Al-Aqsa Mosque, the third holiest site in world Islam is in Jerusalem and they would never risk its destruction.
But lets just ignore all of that. I ask all the Zionist posters howling for war, to seriously consider the CONSEQUENCES of an Israeli attack.
If you are paying attention, Syria is currently and steadily sliding into chaos. What originally was a movement in support of democracy is now steadily moving into a sectarian conflict between the Shiia and the Sunni. The Saudis are going to finance weapons for the insurgency. The Shiia of Lebanon and Iran are fearful of major political loss in this, and reluctantly but to date resolutely, continue to back Al-Assad.
A war against Iran initiated by Israel would spread to our interests in about half an hour. Iran would certainly hit back to the best their abilities. Prices for petroleum would certainly skyrocket to who knows what level, collapsing our fragile economy like a house of cards. Same for the whole world's economy for the same reasons. Mass chaos from Lebanon to Pakistan. Things quickly spiral out of control. Afghanistan explodes. Al-Qaeda claps its hands in glee in Yemen and Somalia. China and Russia get quite hostile. Radioactive clouds drift eastward over India. And of course in this event, Iran would conclude that it must quickly obtain a nuclear WMD capability. Achieving exactly what you claim you want to avoid.
Great! An Israeli attack slams the whole world into what? A bridge too far? Total global chaos?
Choose your own apocalyptic metaphors. Israel's current political support in the US could evaporate literally overnight.
Why exactly must America die for Zionism?
Israel will not use force against Iran unless as a last respon in case there will be no other way to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Hopefully this statement answered ALL your questions above.
Who is assasinating Iran scientists? Who initiated a cyber attack on the production facilities? And as for Iran these are not nice guys either. There needs to be a referree, an honest broker for peace in the region. We have not played that role for some time and the situation is becomming more and more dangerous. Both Israel and Iran have legitimate concerns that need to be addressed.
I agree that it would be a disaster if Israel attacked Iran, and I am definately against that scenario. I do, however, find your statement that Iran has no military capabilities against Israel. They have vast influence over Hamas and Hezbollah and have used those organizations to wield a cladenstine war against Israel for decades.
Right! Israel is just itching to attack Iran, but seriously, they don't have the military muscle to make any difference! All an Israeli attack would do is to ignite all of Israel's "very friendly neighbors" to launch furious attacks against Israel! No nuke would be necessary! Is Israel prepared for an invasion of millions? I seriously doubt it! Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has serious mental problems!
As I said before, I'll bet my house Israel gets invaded and defeated if it attacked Iran!
Israel doesnt have nuclear submarines. Only 3 nations have them and China isn't one of them. It's extremely difficult to make and maintain a nuclear submarine. But you think what you want. In fact Israelis navy isnt that great . They put most of their money into their airforce and army. Nuclear subs cost at least 8 billion to make. But then you morons in Arab nations are just clueless. I don;t necessarily blame the general public per se. The blame is moreso, on your governments for telling you so much crap. Oh well, hope Iran knows what they're doing politically. Because they just might push it too far which gets a lot of their civilians killed. Ahmadinejad said back in 2008, that if war occurred between them and the zionist and Iran lost 20-24% of it's populance. That that, would be an acceptable lose of colateral damage.
"A nation with zero nuclear weapons does not attack another with hundreds. "
------
But of course! Are you telling us that Egypt and Syria DID NOT attack Israel in 1973? That Lebanon DID NOT attack Israel in 2006? Or that your claim that Israel had hundreds of nuclear weapons was A LIE?
When FACTS and your claims contradict each other it is NOT the facts that should be adjusted.
all false flag ops, where america used the colors of other nations to attack isreal so that we could help them against our enemies. The US is a sick nation with evil people in charge. All of the top 1% need to burn
Or maybe this is what they want that Iran should quickly acquire nuclear weapons so that they can sell more of their arms to other middle eastern countries. haha, amazing plan!
Choose your own apocalyptic metaphors. Israel's current political support in the US could evaporate literally overnight.
Why exactly must America die for Zionism?
Hope we dont have to die saving syrains from each other
"Howling for war". Just because you think something, it does not mean it is so. Do some research, educate yourself, get some new teeth...
CNN is often full of krap. The medieval wizards of Iran have been funding violence throughout the Near East for years. Iran lives on the stolen oil assets of British Petroleum. Why do they need nuclear power unless for more violence?
British Petroleum ? Hardly a Persian operation.
Can you elaborate on the reasons British Pertroleum MUST be an Iranian operation in order for Iranians to steal its assets? Thanks.
You are quite incorrect. There is no evidence Iran is trying to acquire nuclear weapons. The current regime of Iran has never invaded a neighbor, including those who were harboring people carrying out attacks in Iran (Iraq post-Gulf War I, Afghanistan before 2001). Iran's violence towards its own populace has been mild compared to any of its neighbors except perhaps Armenia (Turkey, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq have all been far worse).
Finally, what provoked my comment was your assertion Iran stole from British Petroleum. The British conquered Iran in the age of imperialism and BP was looting it. After independence, Iran wanted the same deal that BP gave Saudi Arabia (50% of extracted oil is Iran's, 50% is BP's). BP refused and the British government threatened Iran with violence if they tried to negotiate a new deal with BP instead of the one imposed on them at gunpoint. When Iran imposed the deal on BP (which was still highly profitable to BP), the Eisenhower administration arranged for Iran's government to be overthrown. This eventually lead to the government Iran has today.
BP robbed Iran, not the other way around. BP would be better off financially today if they tried to have a productive relationship with Iran like president Truman encouraged them to have. Instead, foreign governments imposed a murderous regime on Iran for a higher percentage going to BP than the profitable deal they were offered.
If you beleive that there is no evidence that Iran is planning to acquire nuclear weapons you should have no troubles to explain HOW will Iran possibly use hundreds of its intermediate- and long-range ballistic missiles that are virtually harmless without proper warheds. GOOD LUCK!
Of course you know this to be a fact. Could you please share your references.
The assets were stolen by British Petroleum.
Most americans are growing sick and tired of israel dictating policies to our country, and the vast majority of our corrupt media are very pro-war and trigger happy. No more illegal and expensive american wars around the world for israel !!
Amen.
Hey concerned american, you need to focus more on your goat girlfriend (like many of your middle eastern friends) and leave the politics to the adults
wow...what a mature response to Concerned American. Where did you learn such eloquent rhetoric? You must be an Ivy Leaguer. We bow humbly before your great wisdom...
Wow some serious animosity here. I actually happen to agree with him. I could care less what happens to Israel or Iran. We should stop wasting money on that money draining sandbox.
Dan... Maybe (after realizing the possible consequences of a nuclear war in the Middle East that will turn the largest oil fields on the planet into radioactive wasteland) you will start to care more what happens to Israel or Iran?
No more illegal and expensive american wars around the world for israel !!
how about muslims stop trying to kill americans , no more wars for islam. fed up with saving muslims from each other
Can you explain how we are so stupid as to allow Israel to dictate anything to us?
Israel will not use force against Iran unless as a last resource in case there will be no other way to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Hopefully this statement answered ALL your questions above.
"Israel will not use force against Iran unless as a last resource in case there will be no other way to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Hopefully this statement answered ALL your questions above."
Which in other words means they will. They will always assume Iran is trying to develop a nuclear weapon. So face it. More war in the middle east soon, and there is nothing that's going to stop it.
Can you READ MY STATEMENT AGAIN, slower this time? Hopefully, you'll comprehend it after reading it a couple of times...
To clarify...The threat is not the Iranian regime with nuclear weapons. The threat is Hamas, Hezbollah, etc... with nuclear weapons. I don't think anybody really believes Iran would fire a nuclear weapon at anybody. Hamas etc... would love nothing more than to have this capability, and THIS would not be limited to attacks against Israel
Now why would it be in the interest of Hamas to set off a nuclear weapon in adjacent Israel?It is everyones interest to
tone down the rhetoric and reinvigorate the effort for Peace and a 2 state solution
I Agree 100% that the peace process needs to be given a chance and both sides need to take big steps to make it happen. Hamas does not want peace. Abbas wants peace...but terrorist organizations (I know this term is debatable) like Hamas and Hezbollah are very open in their desire to destroy Israel. Rhetoric needs to be toned down on both sides, and radical factions who do not desire peace would be very damaging to the peace process IF they obtain nuclear weapons.
It seems unlikely to me that Muslims would nuke the Dome of the Rock, conveniently located on the Foundation Stone.
You do not negotiate with your friends. Hamas won a legitimate election but was denied any opportunity for dialogue. Gaza is still locked down mode. There have been some positive overtures but these have been rejected , even some joint effort by Abbas and Hamas. Hamas recently joined in the worldwide condemnation of the Assad administration. That could not have pleased the Iranians. I do not give up on this prercarious situation. Israel must have assurances and also must negotiate in good faith.
John, How do you want Israel to negotiate with Hamas, that they declared, that their purpose is to destroy Israel and take over the land? When they keep shooting rockets on children school susses? Do you see any sign that they are ready for talks? Noe one complans that the people from Gaza, are not allowed to enter Egypt< how come?
Hamas was created by Israel to send sissy rockets there so they can bomb to destroy whats left of Palestinians.
Israel created Hamas: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc0_1242693222
regardless of your opinion on the issue...I just think people need to acknowledge that the fear isnt that Iran themselves is going to nuke anybody...they are not that stupid
@D
Theology breads self-righteous stupidity. Their “god’ will protect them after all.
If we reunite the Persian people, it will be the end of the world. Who cares if Iran gets a bomb, they would be crazy to use it. We should be worried more about Pakistan nukes, and the left over satellite countries of the USSR. There are plenty of smaller nukes that are unaccounted for. If love Obama, but he will quickly turn to Bush if he uses the same weapons of mass destruction excuse to invade, or bomb another country.
The majority of people in all of these countries want the same thing the majority in of us do. Stability, jobs, healthcare, and a future for their family. It's the crazy extreme 10 percent right wing war mongers in all countries that endanger us all. Time to fight back. Root these people out, and expose them for what they are.
Start with Rush Limbaugh. I fear him more than Ahmadinejad.
I agree with your assessment. I am glad that you brought up all the other nukes going around. Terrorist groups are already associated with Pakistan, who has nuke capability. After the fall of the USSR, there are more than a few nukes unaccounted for. But now we don't even need nukes to destroy countries – we can do it through cyber terrorism. The Iranian nuclear program was set back by a cyber attack courtesy of Israel or the US or both, and now the code is on the internet and pandora's box is open.
Though one can debate whether the Iranian threat is "existential " or not, you cannot debate that Iran has led an aggresive foreign campaign against Israel for decades. This campaign, since Israel has never been a direct threat to Iran and is therefore without logic, could deem it existential. Whatever the case, Israel has a realistic reason to be worried considering both Hezbollah and Hamas have 30 thousand rockets pointing at them, with some able to reach any part of the country. As shown during the conflict with Lebanon, Iran is not afraid to use the leverage it has with those organizations. Existential or not, the threat is definately there and Israel cannot ignore it.
Israel's very "Founding" was based on Aggression. It was a FOREIGN Invasion by well funded, "One Race", Zionist Terrorist Gangs lead by PROVEN Mass Murdering, War Criminals. Begin, Sharon, Shamir etc would have Hung in a Civilized Society but ONLY in Israel are PROVEN Genocidal War Criminal Elected to the Highest Offices possible.
These FOREIGN Occupiers made their Agenda Clear from Early On:
“The State of Israel must must invent dangers and to do this, it must adopt methods of provocation and revenge.......and, above all, let us hope for a new war with the Arab countries so that we may finally get rid of our troubles and acquire more space.”
“Moshe Sharett; Diaries”
It is ISRAEL that launched Subsequent Wars of Aggression for a Mythical "Greater Israel" Regional Domination:
“Begin’s Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its Wars”
http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0794/9407073.htm
In 1973, Sharon was complicit in a Kissinger negotiated "Arab Attack" to grab MORE Arab Land:
“Israel Busted Again” http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/27/wikileaks-and-stratfor-israel-busted-again/ “The jist of it is that Kissinger had them pretend to go to war so that they could all secretly plot against Syria, whose army was destroyed.”
Hezbollah was DEFENDING Lebanon from Israel's Relentless Grabs for the Litani River and Proved that Pudgy. Kid Killing Concentration Camp Guards are No match foe even a handful of REAL Fighters.
Since then "Vichy Palestine" uses AIPAC to send Americans to Die for "Greater Israel" while, concurerntly Israel has killed more Americans than Iran:
“A Comprehensive History of Zionist Crimes”
http://www.takeourworldback.com/zionistcrimes...
“Israel did 9/11 – ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD”
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic...
“CSI Forensics Proves Who Killed US Marines”
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2753-csi-f
"Attack on the USS Liberty by Israel an Offense to All Americans"
“WHY IS A STRAFED LIFE RAFT FROM THE USS LIBERTY IN AN ISRAELI MUSEUM”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/20/jim-c
Meanwhile, Iran has Attacked NO ONE in Centuries.
Israel has certainly Proven to be Our most insidious and DECEPTIVE Threat ...... EVER!
Totally agree!
Tell it like it is! Our "friendship" with Israel has proven horrendously expensive and one-sided. Some would argue that the relationship is better described as an "ownership" by Israel, calling it the "51st-state-that-never-has-to-pay-taxes" behind closed doors for fear of being called Anti-Semites.
Israel DID NOT ATTACK ANY OTHER COUNTRY without being attacked first. This is a FACT.
Man, this is really scary. WHy dont people see that?
Israel has certainly Proven to be Our most insidious and DECEPTIVE Threat ...... EVER
biggest threat to America is islam, America is full of muslims fleeing fellow muslims , Then Muslims try to kill their Hosts .
" But hasn’t Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeatedly said he wants Israel “wiped off the map”? Despite widely held perceptions and his often confrontational tone, neither he nor other Iranian leaders have threatened to directly wage war against Israel".
Uh.....hello!! " Wiped off the map" Yes....you're right about not threatening war. Why would you when you would blow them up with nukes....there would be nobody left to wage war agaiinst! Wow...idiot!
No, they never said any of that. Do some research and get the exact translation of what was said!!
Thanks for shedding some light on the subject. Lies told often enough seem to take on a reality of their own.owever, Mahmoud does, you must admit, get a little rad with his conversation. The words of world leaders do make a difference.
HAPPY TO HELP:
This article thoroughly examines the misquote and the Fact that it has been DELIBERATELY repeated by our PROVEN Zionist Dominated Media ("Senate Investigation...") to further their Agenda of Training Americans to Hate ALL Muslims and Excuse Israel's Countless Atrocities, War Crimes, Parasitism and Deadly Betrayals of America.
"Wiped Off The Map" – The Rumor of the Century
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4527
The mistranslated "wiped off the map" quote attributed to Iran's President has been spread worldwide, repeated thousands of times in international media, and prompted the denouncements of numerous world leaders. Virtually every major and minor media outlet has published or broadcast this false statement to the masses. Big news agencies such as The Associated Press and Reuters refer to the misquote, literally, on an almost daily basis.
“DECLASSIFIED SENATE INVESTIGATION FILES REVEAL CLANDESTINE, ISRAELI PR CAMPAIGN IN AMERICA”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=20687
ANOTHER War For Israel with American Blood!
Remember THIS?
“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN. ’03
"We, the jewish people control America" and other quotes from israeli leaders 1969-2006
http://www.myspace.com/102837581/blog/158719233
It's pretty comical that NO ONE complaining about "The mistranslated "wiped off the map" quote" was able to offer a CORRECT translation... Want to give it a shot, Gray? What did the Iranian President MEAN by "regime in Jerusalem will vanish from the page of time", in your opinion?
Good job, thanks Gray, its eye opening. Freedom Next Time by John Pilger has same sentiments outlined.
Ahmadinejad did say "wipe Israel off the map", but later, the true power in Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, publicly called the statement erroneous, then reiterated Iran's Israel/Palestine position (too complex for me to fairly summarize here, or even remember completely... I believe you can find it online in a lengthy analysis by the same Karim Sadjadpour mentioned in the above CNN article.) rebecca
The reality is everytime Israel drops cluster bombs and rockets on refugee villages, schools and hospitals, ther're not only committing genocide but they're literally "WIPING" Palestinians and Lebanese "OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH OR THE MAP"!!! Lirerally!
YES!! LITERALLY!!!! And this is the ONLY reason the number of Arabs living in Israel as full fledge citizens increased TWELVE TIMES since 1948 while the number of Arabs in all of Palestine increased FIVE TIMES.
Ron Paul 2012!
I believe you are referring in this article to Vali Nasir. In essence all this saber rattling may be an attempt by Bibi to have an impact in the presidential election. Neocons unite. In effect the impact will have a perverse afffect on Iran and will strengthen the hand of the mullahs and only heighten tensions which will increase the price of gasoline and will dampen a recovery. How Machiavellian.
Once again we have those who are trying to push us into a war. When selling the Iraq invasion, we ignored the real experts and lied to the American people. We would be absolute fools to allow Isreal to get us into another war.
What has become of Scott Ritter?
Yes, we have to think about what fools we've been made out of.
يسعى رئيس وزراء العراق نوري المالكي جاهداً لتحقيق انعقاد مؤتمر القمة العربية المزمع انعقاده ببغداد في 29 آذار الجاري بأي ثمن يدفع، وعلى أي صورة تكون حتى ولو لساعات ثم ينفض الاجتماع؛ المهم أن رئاسة الدورة العربية ولمدة عام أو لحين انعقاد المؤتمر القادم تكون بيده. يترافق هذا الحرص من جانب المالكي وحكومته على الرغم من امتعاض إيران وعدم رغبتها لانعقاد المؤتمر في بغداد! هل تعرفون لماذا؟ سأشرح لكم ذلك بعد قليل.
تردد واضح يشيع في أوساط الدول العربية خصوصاً الخليجية وسط مخاطر متوقعة لا يستهان بها قد تصل إلى حد التحضير لاغتيال شخصيات معينة من قبل الحرس الثوري الإيراني الذي يصول ويجول في بلاد الرافدين، وعزلة يعانيها النظام مع محيطه العربي. وحتى لحظة كتابة هذه الحروف لم تحسم موافقة أغلب الدول على حضور المؤتمر، وإن كانت التصريحات كلها إلى جانب الحضور. هذا وجهود أمين الجامعة العربية نبيل العربي واضحة في الحرص على انعقاد المؤتمر في المكان والزمان المحددين!
أعطى المالكي في سبيل هدفه هذا تنازلات عديدة، وأعلن عن تصريحات غريبة آخرها أنه لا يقف إلى جانب الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد، وأن وقت رحيله قد حان. وزاد فعزز ذلك بإنهاء الوساطة التي تبرع بها قبل حوالي شهرين في سبيل إنهاء (الأزمة) أي الثورة السورية. عساه أن يطمئن العرب ويقنعهم بسلامة نيته، وأنه لن يخرج عن الخط العربي في أي قرار سيتخذ.
العجيب أن الإشارة تلقفها أمس برهان غليون رئيس المجلس الوطني للثورة السورية وبسرعة خاطفة، قائلاً ما معناه: ما دام أن الجانب العراقي قال بأنه لا يقف إلى جانب النظام السوري فهذا يكفي رغم ما بدر منه سابقاً! معقباً بكل ما في السياسة من (حسن ظن): "الحكومة العراقية تعتقد أنه لم يبق للرئيس السوري بشار الأسد أي حظوظ في البقاء في السلطة"! فلا أدري هل هي (طيبة قلب)؟ أم وراء الأكمة ما وراءها؟ وهل يسمح لنا الأستاذ غليون أن نستعير رؤيته (الثاقبة) للأحداث كي نؤسس لقاعدة جديدة على منطق السياسة: افعل ما تشاء.. اذبح، اقتل، قاتل، موّل، ادعم... كل ذلك يشطب بجرة تصريح؟! إذن لماذا لا يشمل رئيسه بشار بهذه (القاعدة الذهبية) الجديدة؟
ما هي أهداف الحكومة العراقية من وراء المؤتمر
قبل الإجابة عن هذا السؤال أترككم مع هذه الأخبار التي تتمتع بنسبة عالية من التأكيد:
1. بتاريخ 1/2/2012 عقد نوري المالكي اجتماعاً مع عدد من قياديي حزب الدعوة وأبلغهم بما يلي:
· ان موافقة العراق على موقف العرب من سوريا إنما لترغيب القادة العرب وسحب أرجلهم لحضور المؤتمر وضمان عدم مقاطعتهم له.
· المؤتمر سيكون فرصة ذهبية لمحاولة إجراء مصالحة سورية – عربية مع بشار الأسد أو مع من يمثله.
· الحرص على حضور أبرز القادة العرب وخاصة (السعودية وقطر ومصر)؛ فإن عدم حضورهم "يبعث رسالة الى أمريكا بأن الحكومة العراقية قد فشلت في كسر عزلتها عن المحيط العربي، وأن هذا سيكون عامل ضعف بارز في علاقة حكومتنا مع الإدارة الأمريكية".
· السعي لكسب تأييد القادة العرب وخاصة دولة الكويت لإخراج العراق من البند السابع. (حتى يتسنى للمالكي الاستبداد بأمور العراق على أوسع مدياته؛ بعد رفع يد الأمم المتحدة عنه. فهل يعي سياسيو سنة العراق المطالبين بإخراج العراق من أحكام البند السابع أنه ليس من مصلحتهم ذلك؟ وأما آن الأوان ليدركوا أن هناك شرخاً عميقاً وواسعاً قد حصل بين مصلحة العراق ومصلحة السنة، وأن "المشروع الوطني" قد بات خنجراً مسموماً في قلب السنة بعد أن كان في ظهرهم؟).
· إن العراق سيرأس معظم اللجان والنشاطات المرتبطة بقرارات ونتائج القمة وستنتقل الرئاسة من يد قطر التي تقود التحرك العربي ضد لبشار الاسد الى حكومة المالكي الحليف العربي الأول له ولنظامه. وبوجود أمين عام ضعيف للجامعة يمتثل لإرادة العراق (لماذا) سيسهل على العراق إدارة الازمة السورية كما يريد.
2. بتاريخ 20/1/2012 أخبر إبراهيم الجعفري مستشار الأمن الوطني فالح الفياض بأن القيادة الأمريكية أوعزت لأياد علاوي أن يستغل علاقاته مع بعض الدول العربية وخاصة الخليجية منها لتشجيعها على حضور مؤتمر القمة العربية مقابل تعهد الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية بالضغط على نوري المالكي لتقديم تنازلات للقائمة العراقية.
3. كما أوفد نوري المالكي وزير الدفاع وكالة سعدون الدليمي إلى القاهرة في حوالي يوم 18/1/2012 لترتيب الأمور مع أمين الجامعة العربية نبيل العربي في لقاء سري بينهما.
4. أما ما يخص إيران فبتاريخ 7/1/2012 اجتمع قاسم سليماني قائد فيلق القدس التابع للحرس الثوري والمسؤول عن ملف العراق مع علي الأديب القيادي في حزب الدعوة ووزير التعليم العالي في مقر الحرس الثوري الإيراني في مدينة كرمنشاه وبدون علم نوري المالكي لوضع خطة لاستهداف بعض القادة العرب أثناء انعقاد المؤتمر، وإلقاء مسؤولية تنفيذ العملية على خلية تابعة لتنظيم القاعدة العامل في جزيرة العرب. هذا وقد تسربت أخبار عن عزم نوري المالكي على زيارة ايران قبل انعقاد القمة العربية في بغداد لاستلام التوجيهات اللازمة حول الملفات التي سيناقشها العراق مع قادة الدول العربية، سيما تلك المتعلقة بسوريا. ولدعوة القيادة الايرانية إلى أن توعز إلى المجاميع الشيعية المسلحة المرتبطة بها في العراق أن تتوقف عن تنفيذ عمليات إرهابية للفترة قبل وأثناء انعقاد المؤتمر.
باختصار
يمكننا أن نختصر أهم الأهداف التي يريد المالكي تحقيقها من خلال المؤتمر بما يلي:
1. يعاني النظام الشيعي الحاكم في العراق من عزلة عربية خانقة لا سيما من قبل المملكة العربية السعودية وبعض دول الخليج، وما يتبع ذلك من قلق تجاه شرعية تسلطه على العراق، إذن ستحقق القمة له إضفاء مزيد من الشرعية وكسب تأييد الدول العربية لكسر عزلته معها.
2. وعلى عكس ما يتظاهر به النظام من الانسحاب من تأييد النظام السوري فإن المالكي يريد من وراء انعقاد القمة في بغداد تحييد مواقف الدول العربية المتشددة من النظام السوري للحيلولة دون سقوطه.
3. التمكن أكثر من تحقيق أجندات وأهداف إيرانية وسورية، لحكومته التي تعاني من العزلة العربية، واستغلال رئاسة الحكومة العراقية لدورة الجامعة العربية التي ستستمر لمدة عام في تنفيذ المخططات خدمة لتلك الأهداف.
4. أما ممانعة إيران لعقد المؤتمر في بغداد فلخشيتها من أن يكون للعرب أي موطئ قدم في العراق، كي تحقق انفرادها الكامل به وبحكومته، وإفساد أي فرصة، ولو كانت تافهة، للتقارب بين الطرفين. والتفجيرات الأخيرة في بغداد كانت هي وراءها لتعكير الوضع الأمني خدمة لهدفها المذكور!
ملاحظة هامشية
بتاريخ 29/1/2012 عقد اجتماع ضم كلاً من نوري المالكي والفريق زهير الغرباوي مدير جهاز المخابرات ووكيله سمير حداد والعميد ( هندرين ) مدير الشؤون الفنية في الجهاز لوضع خطة فنية عن زرع مقرات إقامة القادة العرب بكاميرات مراقبة وأجهزة تنصت حديثة حصل عليها جهاز المخابرات من الجانبين الأمريكي والبريطاني، والتجسس على اتصالات أعضاء الوفود فيما بينهم والاستفادة من ذلك في عمليات توريط وابتزاز سياسي لتجنيد من يمكن تجنيده من أعضاء الوفود.
ما لا أريد قوله
في ضوء المعطيات الآنفة الذكر تكون الدول التي ستشارك في مؤتمر القمة العربية المزمع عقده في بغداد، شريكة للمالكي وحكومته في المسؤولية الشرعية أمام الله تعالى عن أي جهد يضاف، بناء على حضورهم المؤتمر وما سينبني عليه، إلى جهود هؤلاء المجرمين الحثيثة في إنهاء الوجود السني العربي في العراق، وما يترتب على ذلك الجهد من قتل وتنكيل بإخواننا في سوريا على يد النظام الحاكم هناك. ألا وإن الله تعالى يقول: (وَقِفُوهُمْ إِنَّهُمْ مَسْئُولُونَ) (الصافات:24). ألا وإننا كلنا ماضون في النهاية إلى الله جل في علاه، وكلنا سنقف بين يديه. فماذا نحن له قائلون؟
إلى ديانِ يومِ الدينِ نمضي وعندَ اللهِ تجتمعُ الخصومُ
FAIL
THIS is WHY we have to live in spearate countrys. Could you imagine us as room mates?
The author is correct. Iran will not flip a nuke at Israel. That would be suicidal. The most likely scenario is that Hezbollah or Hamas "obtain" a small nuke and plant it someplace in Isreal and then explode it. Where would they get this nuke from? Iran of course. Of course anyone with half a brain will know the device originated with Iran but this scenario does give Iran the ability to play the innocent bystander. Bottom line is it is unacceptable for Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon. The deterence policy that kept the US and Soviets from killing themselves during the Cold War doesnt' apply. Iran wouldn't launch an attack directly but would instead employ its surrogates to use one as a terrorist style attack. They have operated in that manner for decades, they would just have a larger, more devestating weapon to use than they do now.
Mullahs are down on their knees praying to Allah that no nuclear explosion ever take place in Israel for if it would occur
the state of Iran would cease to exist.
I read somewhere that Israel created Hamas to work for it and against PLO's balanced methods, giving it excuses to deny Palestenian state.
check it out to find the truth: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc0_1242693222
Do you realize how small Israel is? About twice as big as the big island of Hawaii. Smaller than Massachusetts. A nuke of any size would likely affect Egypt and Lebanon to say nothing of Jerusalem (which contains sites that are sacred to Islam [and Judaism and Christianity]).
Thank you for being the voice of reason.
America is the root of all terror. America has invaded sixty countries since world war 2. In 1953, America overthrow Iran's democratic government and installed a brutal dictator. During Iran-Iraq war, America supported Saddam, which killed over million Iranian people. In 2003, America invaded Iraq and killed 1,000,000+ Iraqi people and displaced 4,000,000+ Iraqi people.
Now America is a failed state with huge debt. Its debt will be 24 trillion dollar by 2015.
J man You ignore historical fact that America has also been a force for good for the world. America fought for the rights of it's people and served as an example of successful democracy for the world. America eradicated slavery. America stood up to dictatorships and stood for human rights. American blood was shed on battlefields in World Wars and peoples became free and new nations were born.It was America that stood up to Serbia and ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Bosnia.It was American persisitence that helped liberate Eastern Europe from Soviet domination.There may be mixed messages in the history of this great nation but the American people are a just and compassionate if also a misinformed and misled people. The aspirations and dreams of an awakened and arosed Muslim world for a better life and future for themselves and their children are shard ideals.
I agree with you on the statements about america. We need to stop these radical groups like hezbollah and iran. It dosent matter what they tell us. Secretly we all know that if they get the bomb, they will launch their attack on the free world. They dont care how much we sanction them. They hate america, they call us the devil. They want us blown off the face of the earth. With all due respect, when will everyone come to realize the true purpose of radical islam and iran, to wipe America and isreal, off the map. This is their secret agenda. It is our duty to make sure that that dosent happen.
Hahaha, really funny John.
You're GLEN BECK crazy! All the things you think are "gifts" bestowed from America on the rest of the world were IMPOSED on the rest of the world. Wake up out of your stupor Holly Hubris!
are you thick? just last week the grand mullah said that israel will be destroyed. open your eyes and ears and report the facts, fareed.
http://www.Hear-The-Truth.com
The iranian regime don't have the bomb. I don't belive it. The election was good. Most people vote in iran.
And you know this HOW??????????
lol i think half of you are seriously out there....it seems like every few months this amenjadd or w/e his name is calls for destruction of isreal?! i mean listen no government is perfect but when you openly say you want to" wipe isreal of the map" that = genocide.. i mean in my mind im seeing visions of hitler reborn with nuke capabilities. not to mention isreal is surrounded by islamic countries that all would secretly want see Isreal destroyed. and i mean frankly if they have nothing to hide then why isnt the nuclear regulators aloud to see the underground nuke plants?! isn't the signs obvious ?
dont medical isotopes only need like 3.5% enriched uranium...so then why go as far as 20% just makes no sense and then hide the operation underground? ..
Are we being fair to Iran?
Israel is not a signatory on the nuclear NonProliferation Treaty; Israel is exempt from IAEA inspections, although it has 200-300 nuclear warheads.
Iran is an NPT signatory; Iran is required to undergo IAEA inspections, although it has not even one nuclear weapon. "Evidence" of Iran building a nuclear weapon comes from Israeli intelligence - the same intelligence agency which has assassinated 5 Iranian nuclear scientists.
The head of the IAEA since 2008, Yukiya Amano, was caught in WikiLeaks assuring a U.S. ambassador that he would be "solidly in the U.S. camp on every strategic issue....", and specified Iran. Amano did not deny this when later interviewed by a German newspaper, but he dismissed it, saying that diplomacy in his position sometimes required schmoozing (not the word Amano used, which I can't remember right now) to certain IAEA members. In a report last fall on Iranian nuclear development, Amano inexplicably released the names of Iranian nuclear scientists; Dr. Roshan was assassinated this past January in Tehran. For these reasons, Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said publicly that he has reason to distrust the integrity of the IAEA, and he is willing to be transparent with the IAEA to a reasonable but not complete degree. rebecca
Rebacca, Bla-Bla-Bla, can you listen to all your brain wash that you are spiting out? Can you separate facts from pure Muslim propaganda. The fact is that the Muslims want a Middle East CLEAN of any other religion, Jews in Israel, Christians in Egypt Iraq, and Lebanon, Hindu in India, etc. that's the main problem, when Muslims will accept and respect other religions too, will be peace in the world.
India is not middle east. Like your geography, you clearly don't know muslims. They hosted jews when they were being killed by christians.
Wow, so IAEA is punishing iran for being a signatory of it?! Incredible.
Listen Fatmah, Israel does not share info with its enemy. Can you dig it?
i'm bored
Go do your homework!
NEVER!!!!!
I'll tell you exactly why President Obama hasn't decided to support military action against Iran! You see, four times since President Obama has been in office, he has met with Mr. Netenyahu and and during these meetins he has explained that hostility in the Middle East is linked to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and in order to bring about lasting peace, the two sides must reach a resolution and settle the disputed conflict. A year ago, President Obama also said that this may be the last chance for Mid East peace as he stressed the significance of a deal. He also reiterated that a Mid East peace deal was important because as long as their is conflict and instability in the region, Iran would continue to advance its nuclear ambitions and to avert that, we must begin by creating a Palestinian state side by side with Israel.
Finally, President Obama also explained that a Mid East peace accord was important simply because American resources and blood is intertwined in this conflict and subsequently Americans have become targets globally because of the ungoing conflict between Palestine and Israel. So what has been Mr. Netenyahu's response for three straight years of President Obama stressing the significance of a Palestinian/Israel peace initiative? His response has been to expand and build more settlements on the disputed land. Let's face it, Mr. Netenyahu needs to be placed in a gas chamber!
I envision a scenario where Muqtaddah al Sadr's Mahdi Army will endeavor to overthrow Iraq's existing fragile regime and take control of southern Iraq. Since he is closely allied with Iran (and sought refuge there these past few years), he could join with Iranian ground forces and with a destabled Syria which by the way is also tribally allied with Iran, create a landbridge directly to Israel and linking up with Hezbullah controlled Lebanon. Their hope would be for other Arab states to sit by and tacitly agree to this venture. It would eventually lead to WW3 if Russia and China were to interfere hence the high stakes at risk.
I believe that the entire Muslim/Arab world would join forces with Iran to defeat Israel if there was a war! Moreover, I personally believe that nuclear Pakistan would back Iran simply because Pakistan has gotten the short end of the stick in Afghanistan and they are just sick and tired of America's double standard foreign policy. Also, I believe if there is indeed a war, Iran is capable of invading Israel not only from the ground but also by air and with their Soviet built stealt submarines.
Israel's machinery is much much better than all Middle eastern countries' machinery put together. They are nuclear armed too. Iran is 'trying to develop" what "could be a nuclear weapon" according to this article.
I have a years worth of food, but the expiration data is 2013, can we just get the end of the world started before my food starts to go bad?
As an American it saddens me to see so many anti-Jewish conspiracy theory comments written on this site whenever there is an Israel-related topic.
My only solace is that low support for Ron Paul in this election indicates few Americans agree with such views.
We're not against the Jewish people of Israel, we're against their government's aggression and history of genocide and war atrocities! We respect the Jewish people but despise their evil government. Its that simple! Someone said give peace a chance but the Israeli government keeps fueling the flames by expanding its settlements on occupied land. Now they're calling for an attack on a sovereign nation in peace time. That's is just absurd!
"AGGRESSION" by definition means 'an UNPROVOKED attack'. Can you show us one or more examples of the "Israeli government aggression" you're complaining about? Please?
A book called Freedom Next Time by John Pilger gives a very good account of what you're saying.
Anti Israel statements are not being made by Americans but by Terrorists who have hijacked our free society.
The biggest threat is that Iran gives the nuclear technology to terrorists to build weapons and use them against nations such as the USA, Israel, Britain, France, India, Russia, and others.
Iran's problem with so much of the world is that they are a criminal regime intent on somehow making everything about religion. So long as they do that, they are really pushing the world towards a very bad outcome.
Let me try to respond to your question! OBL, the mastermind of the worst terrorist attacks on US soild was supposedly harbored by a Pakistanian government some of us perceive as extremist, yet no nuclear weapons weren't given to al-Qaeda to attack the countries you mentioned!
But when OBL was fighting Russian aggressions the U.S. was supplying him with arms.. I always get confused as to who the terrorist are and who their supporters are. I guess if the U.S. likes you you are not a terrorist but if they don't you are part of thr "Axis" but that changes rapidly so be careful who your friends are.
I have a nagging question...Should Great Britain carryout a pre-enptive strike against Argentina simply because it perceives Argentina as a threat to the Falkland Islands? I doubt it!
Does Argentina have nuclear weapons? Does Argentina vow daily to kill every single Jew? Unlike the Quran, the Bible does not demand the killing of everyone who thinks differently.
President Obama continues to urge Israel to show some restrainst against attacking Iran. Even President Putin has shown his concern, explaining that an attack on Iran could cause a catastrophy in the region! Let's face it, its time to give peace a chance!
"neither he nor other Iranian leaders have threatened to directly wage war against Israel" – You are kidding, right? What a delusional freak!
Do your research, he's right.
*IF* Iran is developing nukes, and there is no proof of such, the sole purpose would be to DETER Israel (and others) from launching an attack.
Iran hasn't attacked ANYONE for 250+ years, but they have been on the butt end of US led brutal coup détat which replaced their advanced western style democracy with a thug-infested vicious dictatorship. Then Iran was attacked by Saddam Hussein's Iraq, supported by the United States, causing an 8 year war killing millions.
Iran has NOT forgotten.
*IF* Iran is developing nukes, and there is no proof of such, the sole purpose would be to DETER Israel (and others) from launching an attack.
Can you explain WHY would Israel be willing to attack PEACEFUL Iran? In return I'll explain to you tsat hundreds of intermediate- and long-range ballistic missiles that are virtually harmless without proper warheads are a pretty convincing proof that Iran is going to develop warheads to fit these missiles. Further, while Iran did not attack anyone during whatever number of years Israel did not attack anone during its entire history. BOTH Iran and Israel fought back when they were attacked by their enemies, however.
Think – Israel already had nuclear arms and missles too, which they have used. Not Iran.
IF* Iran is developing nukes, and there is no proof of such
but you have evidence that israel has nukes? you see one ?
Do you understand that governments do not share their intel with the masses. If they did share their intel, then it would no longer be intel.
Here's my take on the Iranain and Pakistani Nuclear Threat:
Q: FIRSTLY, are we willing to trust Iran with its Nuclear weapons?
A: No way, and Gen.Dempsey is clearly wrong.
Q: Can we let diplomacy go on right until the point Iran gets nukes?
A: No way, we need to stop them right at their tracks!
Q: Is a war in the ME now more disastrous than after Iran has developed nukes?
A: Clearly NOT!
Q: Is war the only answer to stop them?
A: Most likely yes! But we surely must squeeze them with crippling sanctions, stop their efforts to trade oil for gold etc.
Q: Is it time to strike Iran?
A: May be NOT, but we can never take the eye of the ball!
Q:What do we mean by Iranian compliance?
A: STOP enrichment beyond 3.5% and surrender in a verifiable manner all stocks of enriched Uranium above 3.5%
Dismantle their underground enrichment plants in Qom and other places. Allow IAEA inspector unfettered access to all facilities.
And, we need to do the same with JIHADIST PAKISTAN also, by IMMEDIATELY putting a lid on their enrichment efforts which is going on at a pace faster than any other nation in the world, followed by (if necessary) stealth efforts to SEIZE THEIR ISLAMIC BOMB or cutting off all aid, followed by withdrawal of all trade concessions, stopping Pakistani access to sensitive technologies, stopping immigration of Pakistanis to the west etc.!
Until we do all these the world can never be safe from ISLAMIC NUCLEAR BLACKMAIL !!!!!
Nice job....and agree.
MO
If I said (which I never did or plan on saying), on multiple occasions and in various fora, "Reza Sayah should be wiped of the map," it would have been considered hateful and improper threat (for which I would have probably been banned from commenting in this site), right? So, please explain to me how is that acceptable and not an existential "threat" when a head of a state clearly and repeatedly calls for the destruction of Israel, all the while openly attempting to obtain nuclear weapons?
If you're known to be delusional, noone would take you seriously
Are you saying by this flippant comment that the Arab world has never advocated the destruction of Israel; and, consequently, Israel is being delusional?
All this madness started when the mad cowboy desease on Crawford ranch waged war against a sovereign nation in Iraq over lies about WMD's! Now Mr. Netenyahu is following suit! Let's face it, the worst forms of wars are not wars that get started to bring about peace but wars that get started in peace time itself! And I bet if GWB didn't set the precedence for other rogue states like Israel to carryout its aggression against a sovereign nation, I bet Mr. Netenyahu wouldn't be following his leader GWB and threatening to attack Iran today!
And too bad Mr. Netenyahu didn't carryout his threats to attack Iran when his mentor GWB was still in office! Some of you have questioned whether President Obama deserved the Noble Peace Prize...Well, our President continues to urge Israel to exercise restraint and give peace a chance! Well, there's your answer!
“The greatest danger of all could soon be upon us – a militant Islamic regime armed with nuclear weapons."
What, are we suddenly pretending that Pakistan hasn't had nukes for years now?
We're pretending that Pakistan did not promise to "wipe from the map" any other country yet...
I normally agree with Reza but not here.
But, Mr. Reza is far more balanced than Mr.FAREED ZAKARIA who recently cautioned the US from supporting an Israeli strike on Iranian facilities, terming it MISCHEVOUSLY AS YET ANOTHER WAR ON ISLAM, even though none of the Muslim nations themselves have termed it as such, with the Saudis actually criticizing us for not striking Iran!
Mr.Z akaria's yet another UNILATERAL ASSERTION was when he said the ISRAELI-EGYPTIAN PEACE TREATY was between TWO REGIMES and NOT between TWO PEOPLES, covertly urging Egyptians to ABROGATE the treaty.
So Americans needs to be aware of the dangers from some of these "so-called" moderate Muslims like Mr. Zakaria who also happens to be an external advisor to President Obama.
Fortunately after initially led down this SUICIDAL path of ISLAMIC PANDERING culminating in Obama's (in)famous speech at the Cairo Univ., and more recent call on Israel to withdraw to its indefensible pre-1967 borders, President Obama seems to be much more restrained.
Are you calling zakaria a war monger? He's from the nuclear india too, so he would definitely not want other countries to have the same I guess.
sam
Are you calling zakaria a war monger
no , he is cnn pet muslim.
I have a hard time believing that Fareed Zakaria would say something like that. What are your references?
The rhetoric deserves are response. I believe it will get one.
This article is a bit ridiculous...it downplays some legitimate concerns by citing the opinion of one man – albeit a very influential and knowledgable one – and ignoring the opinions of many others. And it gives one lousy sentence to what is probably the largest concern.
"An Iran with the capability to build nuclear bombs could also lead to a major shift in the balance of power, creating instability in what is already one of the world’s most volatile regions."
The fact is that an arms race in a region as unstable as this one could lead to innumerable dangers and problems.
Who started the arms race? Iran is not the first country in middle east to develop it.
India and Pakistan are already well into a 2nd generation nuclear standoff.
Weeell, it's a FACT when GOP is in office, but somehow it's fiction when they aren't. That about sums it up.
Jeremy Bernstein of the New Yorker wrote an interesting e-single on Iran's developing nuclear program. Bernstein is a physicist, but it is more of a history of how we ended up in this "are they or aren't they developing weapons" situation. Worth reading, for those interested: http://goo.gl/tk0fx
27 For as the alightning cometh out of the beast, and shineth even
unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
2 And Jesus said unto them, aSee ye not all these things?
verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one bstone
upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Did you want to free Palestine when it was southern Syria? Or when it was eastern Egypt? Or when it was western Jordan? Did the Palestinians at that time even notice their Palestine was missing? The Arab/Muslim world is a miserable theme-park recreation of the Dark Ages, supporting itself and its violent street gangs by stealing the oil properties of British Petroleum. The best way to deal with a nuclear Iran is to deal with a pre-nuclear Iran right now.
"But hasn’t Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeatedly said he wants Israel “wiped off the map”? Despite widely held perceptions and his often confrontational tone, neither he nor other Iranian leaders have threatened to directly wage war against Israel."
Such unbelievable BS. The ayatollah said that Israel must be destroyed and that the Jews must be annihilated.
This "journalist" and their pathetic attempts to re-write other people's words is the most ignorant and perhaps malicious crap i've seen on CNN yet.
Truly Crap.
It is finally something that makes sense!
It is laughable to even think that all CNN reporters have gotten together and decided to rewrite history and keep this a secret.
If they wanted to free Palestine TODAY they would asl for peace negotiations with Israel. As a result they would get a peace agreement and a free Palestinian state within established, mutually accepted and official borders.
Read and think: Freedom Next Time by John Pilger.
Does it really matter anymore... in the last century the United States flexed its muscles to defend itself from a great world threat, the Soviet Union, which literally, was an evil empire... it used brutality to assert control.. it took what it wanted... it opressed enslaved and murdered millions of people over it's ideology and threatened the world with nuclear annihilation... Now that threat is over, there are many threats and percieved threats throughout the world for the US and it's interests... but personally i think priorities need to be shifted. In the same way the US spent Trillions to defeat the Soviet Union, i think it's time we look inward and work on the many great challenges of our time... Money needs to be spent on the Energy demands of the future, lets not rely on the Corporate world to solve our energy crisis, they are bent on maintaining our current fossil fuel dominated energy outlook because it's packageable and unimaginably profitable. If the US can center it's priorities and spend money on say Solar power for individual homes etc. we could get a true solution where every household can produce it's own power... work on energy storage and battery capacity so we can have legitimate electric cars.... We need a true vision for our future... personally i'd love to one day see an America where solar panels on your roof, power your household and you can charge your car up off of that energy basically making ourselves independent of any foreign energy and yes i'd love to see the day that Shell BP and others go bankrupt... IT's part of growing up as not only a Nation but a world... we cannot sustain the current outlook... we need to look towards solutions that involve limitless energy... not a limited source that all nations will one day fight over....
LET'S UNDERSTAND SOMETHING FIRST AND FOREMOST,,,,,,THESE ARE ARABS WHO HAVE BEEN A VERY TROUBLED RACE SINCE THE BEGINING OF TIME....IF THEY HAD A HINT OF ANYTHING NUCLEAR IT SHOULD BE DESTROYED,,,,,THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT IT IS OTHER THAN WHAT THEY ARE TOLD,,,,MOST CANNOT READ SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS DICK AND JANE LET ALONE SOMETHING NUCLEAR.
Iranians are not Arabs haha, they are caucasians!
iran was full of a proud people till they where conqured by Islam.
now this left wing website
now this left wing website says there's no problem in Iran , "ignore the man behind the curtain" remember the wizard of os. The fact is they are building the bomb and the presidents reaction to this is causing gas prices to rise because of fear which is hurting his election chances so NOW THERES REALY NOT A PROBLEM, TO GUY WHO WROTE THIS COVERUP ARTICLE WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO KISS THE PRESIDENTS ASS
And by this inane statement you have provent what? Bonehead.
overweight apathetic loser 'mercans are not the sensible people to determine Israel's future . . .
And whom do you think should lead Israel, since you do not seem to understand the concept of a Democracy.
Reza you are a tool of Iranians and Islamist jihadi extremism. No one believes your lies. The reason why SOME American intelligence sources are saying that Iran hasn't "decided" to build a weapon. That's a moot point, having the ability to make one is the same as having one. You are a traitor who thinks this is just another WMD claim like we did with Iraq. On Iraq they were wrong, now they are wrong on Iran, this time the Iranians REALLY are well on their way to having nuclear bombs. They're trying to cover their @sses now making claims with reports from 5 years ago under Bush, when a lot has changed with Iran's progress. It's an obvious excuse to not intervene when intervention is absolutely required to defeat these Shia mullahs and their definite, explicit threats to destroy Israel. As a Muslim you have no problem throwing Israel under the bus, when it is our closest truest ally in the region. Obama is making up all sorts of excuses directly and indirectly through his spineless stooges and speaking hot air at AIPAC's conference. Israel, just go ahead and strike Iran now before it's too late. Don't depend on Obama to keep his word, he's a spineless political opportunist who just wants the Jewish vote. Do what you did in 1967, before America was even a real ally of yours.
Israel is a real threat to the world and liability for America as well. They use America to fight for them and American ppl should wake up and stop our Govt. support to fight their evil agendas.
Read Freedom Next Time by John Pilger. It talks about exactly what you're saying.
Mike you're very perceptive: bigoted, biased/ probably paranoid.
The wars in 1948 started by Arabs when Israel delcared Independce weren't fought by the US. Neither were the wars of 1956 was Nasir wanted to flex his muscle (France did participate / the US told Israel to leave the Suez canal). 1967 another Arab lead attack / defeat resulting in today's "claim of occupation". Pals should partner with Native Americans/ Mexicans...it kinda goes like this: you attack, you lose!
1973 the Yom Kippur War again no US invovlement though Nixon, begrudginly provided some arms / planes to Israel).
You're very percptive for a blind man....but if you opened your eyes you might see that the Pals have been treated as dirt / second class citizens in ALL ISLAMIC countries.
Good luck with you revisionist history lesson> For those with memory loss or an agenda it plays out...for those who remember your comments are an embarassment.
MO
... Agree... the REAL Threat here is war-mongers like Netanyahu. AIPAC and the Israelis slimeballs have ruined our (America's) reputation and have destroyed our economy by getting us to pay for unnecessary wars.
Idiot.
hehehe...
HELP WANTED: modern architect with new ideas needed for design/maintenance of new glass parking lot to be de - constructed in a currently undisclosed location. salary negotiable.. will only be able to give 10 min notice of employment offer. Go getters only apply.
what?????????????
Iran Air Flight 655 was a civilian jet airliner shot down by U.S. missiles on July 3, 1988, over the Strait of Hormuz, toward the end of the Iran–Iraq War. The aircraft, an Airbus A300B2-203 operated by Iran Air, was flying from Bandar Abbas, Iran, to Dubai, United Arab Emirates, over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf on its usual flight path when it was destroyed by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes (CG-49), killing all 290 passengers and crew aboard,[1] ranking it twelfth among the deadliest disasters in aviation history.
America is the root of all terror.
290 innocent civilians?!?
Watch what happens if Iran continues to provoke the US / closes the Straights.
Armindinnerjacket might get a job on the new Shahs of Hollywood ....if he's still alive.
MO
Historically, Arabs are known to hide behind their own and when these poor people are killed–Martyred, the Arab world has something to howl about.
Iran has the right to develop nuclear power. Just because they may have the possibility of having one bomb in a few years doesn't change this fact. The US went decades with thousands of missiles pointed at us with the MAD doctrine in place. Iran isn't crazy in that they would actually use any weapon they created. It's a deterrent. THIS is what the US fears the most. A strong middle eastern power that can actually defend it's natural resources against control by Wall Street. Let's not forget the real reason for our interest in installing puppet governments in the middle east. Control over the remaining oil reserves on the planet. Anyone who thinks this is about anything else is naive.
I agree with you!
If you are worried about someone coming and taking your resources in Iran, I would worry about China. Because youre not getting any help from us.
I agree its a deterrant, anyone who thinks otherwise, should get their history and facts straight.
"he was not calling for an attack against Israel, but the ouster of its government in favor of one Palestinian state, with Israel no longer recognized as a nation." If that's what Ahmadinejad meant, he would have clarified it long ago rather than let the total destruction interpretation stand. I understand Farsi and it is very clear what he meant. Reza Sayah is just trying to whistle his way past the graveyard.
Because the U.S. will attack Iran and Syria? Is the king of the world? It will kill more soldiers by petrólio? Why involve Israel? Why more blood and misery in the world? What is the role of the UN? Stoped, you help the world, not destroy it! One day God makes accounts with you!
Fatmah, I am ready and willing to present myself to my God when the time comes.
Its not whether or not Iran or N Korea will threaten their respective regions or the world with nukes and proliferation of tech, but the question is when will it happen and with which small country seeking nuclear weapons technology will do it? The point is, its going to happen eventually, it doesnt matter who is developing it now or then or whenever, if we see a way to stop it it should be done. No questions asked. There is already an international market for nuclear weapons technology and N Korea and Iran, amongst others , no doubt, have exploited it. AQ Kahn was probably the most dangerous man in the world 15 or 20 years ago, and the only reason he isnt anymore is becasue there are probably 4 or 5 people like him out there with experience working on state level nuclear programs seeking to exploit their network of intel for personal gain. I highly recommend a 30 minute research into India and Pakistans nuclear programs and a google of AQ Khan will show you why this is more than a likely scenario.
Let's just boot out all the male leaders and replace them with women. War will cease to exist.
Letting women rule is a brilliant idea. However, the majority of Muslims do not educate their women. These women might change things.
In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad discussed candidly a strange, paranormal experience he had while addressing the United Nations in New York last September.
He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech. But this wasn’t the light directed at the podium by the U.N. and television cameras. It was, he said, a light from heaven.
According to a transcript of his comments, obtained and translated by Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin, Ahmadinejad wasn’t the only one who noticed the unearthly light. One of his aides brought it to his attention.
The Iranian president recalled being told about it by one of his delegation: “When you began with the words ‘in the name of Allah,’ I saw a light coming, surrounding you and protecting you to the end.”
Ahmadinejad agreed that he sensed the same thing.
“On the last day when I was speaking, one of our group told me that when I started to say ‘Bismillah Muhammad,’ he saw a green light come from around me, and I was placed inside this aura,” he says. “I felt it myself. I felt that the atmosphere suddenly changed, and for those 27 or 28 minutes, all the leaders of the world did not blink. When I say they didn’t move an eyelid, I’m not exaggerating. They were looking as if a hand was holding them there, and had just opened their eyes – Alhamdulillah!”
Ahmadinejad’s “vision” at the U.N. is strangely reminiscent and alarmingly similar to statements he has made about his personal role in ushering in the return of the Shiite Muslim messiah.
He sees his main mission, as he recounted in a Nov. 16 speech in Tehran, as to “pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance.”
yah give this guy a nuke , retards
Let's just pretend everything's ok. After all, it worked with Hitler.
What Gen Dempsey meant was that while Israel has concluded that Iran presents an existential threat to Israel, the US has not concluded that Iran presents an existential threat to THE US.
Leave it a Scuzlim to misrepresent the facts. Israel, being a tiny country, of course is much more endangered by a single nuke than the US. Our economy may (or may not) withstand a nuke. No way Israels could,
Exactly the point I was going to make. Nice to know there are others who take the time to understand what's really being said rather than distorting it as did the author of this piece. There is no doubt that an Iran with nuclear weapons would represent an existential threat to Israel.
Iran is not only a threat to Israel but the world. The country's megalomaniac are following the Quran which states very clearly and in simple language–to appeal to most Muslims, that infidels should be killed or converted.
Iran and its allies are the threat if war between Iran and Israel start.
"Wiped off the face of the map" doesn't mean annihilation according to the Islamic apologists/ FZ. Denial of the Holocaust didn't happen....Armindinnerjacket just wants proof (here's a tip, look at the film / videos shot by the allies-as ordered by Eisenhower). So Iran just doesn't like Zionists / wants a regime change to eliminate a state, RE-CREATED by UN 242 (what about TransJordan , should they get a regime change too?).
As for the concern for Palestiinians there will be imo a 4 state soultion: Israel, Jordan (with > 50% Palestinian citizens), Gaza / The West Bank. Then make these new states (Islamic) responsible for attacks from whatever group they chose this week including the Beatles or Stones. If the attack emanated from Gaza or the West Bank there should be severe repraisals. Live in peace and it's a non issue.
As for Iran / double speak, Israel / the US ( UK / France) bombing the "peaceful" nuclear sites isn't really what this appears to mean either: think of it as geo-political reorganization / a quick way to rebuild cities / towns that need a better infrascture than an Isalmic lead regime can ever provide.
MO
MO
In his speech to the U.S. congress last year Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said, “The greatest danger of all could soon be upon us – a militant Islamic regime armed with nuclear weapons.”
Pakistan is such a country and they've had nukes for a decade.
Pakistan is NOT a militant Islamic regime. Do your homework.
Iran is a country whose leaders enjoy stirring the pot of political intrigue and suspense worldwide! It remains to see how far they intend to go with their peaceful nuclear program despite the fact that they refuse to recognize the state of Israel and have done their own bit in trying to upstage that country's existence via their participation in the various wars of attrition.
... it's all just Israeli Zionist propaganda. There were no WMD in Iraq. There was no threat from Afghanistan. These are all just lies to keep the Military Industrial Complex alive...
You're right; there were none: they're all in Syria now.
Whatever rhetorical claims Iran's government makes about a civilian nuclear energy system cannot and will not justify their secrecy. Even if it were true, they should welcome international help to learn how to avoid the disasters the rest of the world is experiencing with ever increasing frequency. No, it si obvious there is only one reason to keep parts of their "program" secret. Israel is right to insist that time is running out.
All Israel wants is the right to exist as a nation. BUT many in the Arab world wants Israel, as a nation, gone. Iran is most vocal about this and would carry out the destruction of Israel if Iran got Nuclear weapons. RADICAL Islam is the greatest threat in the world since Nazi Germany. Not all Moslems are radical, but the radical ones seem to make the news. But the terrorist groups like Hamas and others are criminals and should be brought to justice as violating international law.
Ahmadinajad is a blowhard, but he is not a fool, he knows what the consequences of attacking Israel would be. The US and the Soviet Union lived with that knowledge and reality during the cold war - mutually assured destruction.
America is the root of all terror. America has invaded sixty countries since world war 2. In 1953, America overthrow Iran's democratic government and installed a brutal dictator. During Iran-Iraq war, America supported Saddam, which killed over million Iranian people. In 2003, America invaded Iraq and killed 1,000,000+ Iraqi people and displaced 4,000,000+ Iraqi people.
Now America is a failed state with huge debt. Its debt will be 24 trillion dollar by 2015.
IRAN IS THE ROOT FO ALL EVIL,, THEY ARE HELPING THE TERRORISTS HIZBOALLAH TO GO AND KILL PEOPLE IN SYRIA, THEY ARE HELPING IRAQI TERRORISTS TO GO AND KILL SUNNI IN SYRIA, THEY ARE HELPING BADER ARMY IN IRAQ, QODOS ARMY, MAHDI MILITIA, ASHAB AL HAQ AND MAKING TROUBLE IN IRAQ, BAHRAIN, LEBANON, HAMAS AND DESTABELIZA THE COUNTRIES, GIVE MONEY TO THEM AND TO RUSSIA SO RUSSIA SEND MORE WEAPON TO SYRIA AND HIZBOALLAH. ATTACK NIRAN NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE, AND MAKE NO MSITAKE WHEN IRAN IS READY THEY WILL ATTACK ISRAEL AND THEY WILL WIPE ISRAEL AND THE OIL FIELDS IN MIDDLEAST. NOW IS THE TIME TO ATTACK IRAN AND WIPE THOSE EVIL FROM THE MAP WE MUST TAKE THEM FOR LUNCH BEFORE THEY TAKE US TO DINNER. FK IRAN FK KHOMINI FK ALI AND AHMAD NEJAD FK AL SESTANI AND ALL IRAN EMAMS AND MULLAS, FK IRAN LADIES THEY ARE GOOD FOR MOTAA KOS OMAHATKUM YA SHIIA YA KELAB
hindrance, lies of a hindu Jew, criminal self centered in his hindu Judaism, criminal self center ism.
Idiots to the left of me, idiots to the right.......Stuck in the middle again.
I agree that Iran is very unlikely to ever directly employe a nuclear weapon in the small and crowded Middle-east area. However, I do not doubt that they would provide such weapons to terrorist groups they support who would do so, possibly in the US. It's tough to decide the correct course of action. But just going in and bombing the country when they haven't done anything that would justify such volatile action is not the correct path, despite what the AIPAC controlled GOP would have you believe.
Seriously, Iran is no threat whatsoever to the United States of America their nuclear bombs or planes would be detected and shot down seconds after it left the country of Iran. We have about 20 military bases surrounding Iran! The United States got it's oil from Iraq already claiming "they have bombs and are a threat!" this isn't entirely about oil but protecting "Israel" we are willing to go to war... no i'm sorry we are willing to massacre millions of women and children just to get oil and check off a country of Israel's hit list? AGAIN...
And then one day Iran would have long range WMD and would attack America.But, what the hell, Sense says Iran is no threat. That's good enough for me.
Good new's, sooner the better, world will be free of hindu Judeism, criminal self center ism and hindu Jew's, criminal self centerd to free humanity of Jewish hinduism, self centered racism.
If a person or persons wanted to be martyrs and take the whole world with them in one ultimate conflict, that would be one thing. But even if so inclined, nobody thinks they could get 100% of the human species. So even if some group of Muslims likes the idea, they would not risk leaving a world behind where the power of their religion was diminished, as of course it would be if they picked a fight in their own backyard. Now focus more closely. A nuclear attack on Tel Aviv does not just mean you wipe out that city, it means nuclear blowback to your own people via the prevailing winds if nothing else, along with (1) the deaths of millions of would-be allies (whose survivors are now NOT friendly to you) and (2) the essentially permanent desecration and ruin of lands you profess are holy and desirable.
In other words, mutually assured destruction has meanings even for people whose rhetoric sounds like lunacy.
That said, MAD is the only reason why anybody would want nuclear weapons in the Middle East (why else would Israel have them yet not use them?), and yet going there is the one certain way to make sure an insane outcome is possible. Iran should not because if anybody DOES have the crazies, it is them.
Israel WILL defend itself from the chaos of armaggeddon from a tehran iran that is admonishing the destruction
of israel... Israel WILL attack iran, the despotic regime. We are at a crossroad. Iran does not
have much time left, before Israel strikes hard at iran's nuclear sites...
IF they do not strike soon or now....then they will face possible annihilation by iran's madmen.
If iran is developing medical isotopes to cure medical ills, then WHY hide in mountains to
do so.
NO iran is developing nuclear missiles to strike Tel Aviv or other Jewish provinces.
Not searching for peaceful use of nuclear technology. Any one which states that
Israel is descendant from monkeys, pigs and blames Israel for AIDS in the world is bent
on attacking Israel...WIPE OFF THE MAP as ahmadenijad has stated.
NO, there is NO medical research. there is a deceiving, hidden research of atomic energy
for bombs to attack Israel..
NOW , Iran will be facing a devastating neutralization of nuclear technology.
They have only themselves to blame.
Anyone who feels that dying is better by killing others and themselves by reaching
paradise with virgins is insane. as this iranian regime is INSANE.
Israel with the allies will stop this insanity before iran attacks Israel.
The consequences I am afraid from this certain Israel attack will most likely be a 3rd world
war. However, Iran will not be able to destroy the holy land as they will not have
reached nuclear missile capability by cause of Israel's attack on iran.
You may say that the world as you knew it , will be no more.
What you have taken for granted, will soon be gone forever.
Inevitably, we are facing a 3rd world war. And it is necessary, to stop mad
iran from reaching nuclear capability of missiles to begiven to proxies such
as hamas, hezbollah and other terrorists.
I would rather have iran stopped now , than face a nuclear iran bent on destroying
themselves and the world.
Iran MUST BE STOPPED AND WILL BE STOPPED!
And you know all of these facts about Iran how?
Have you been there n have you seen it?
Or are you just another Obama sheep believing everything he is told.
I say none of those countries should have nuclear capability.
Why only Israel???
if we had we not been in bed with Israel we would have not be attacked on 9/11
Why do you think they attacked the USA just because they don’t like us.
Because we have been helping ONLY Israel how did you thin k that was going to end?
If we help bomb Iran that will be the beginning of WW III.
lol calm down, you're sounding alittle bit dictator -ish
the reactor iran has manufactured fuel for so that they can make nuclear medicines for cancer treatments is not hidden in a mountain. it is located in tehran, where it was built by the united states in 1968 under the atoms of peace program and has been under continual iaea safeguard for the last 40 + years.
You can always take a lesson from our Mr. Holder and make all the leaders of Iran honorary citizens of Israel and then label them terrorists and then drone them. The truth is making them citizens first so after you call them terrorists you have the right to kill them in a country other than your own. OK?
معلومات خطيره وتحذير / الى كل العراقيين الذين يستخدمون خط شبكة زين للاتصالات
urgent information , our informants in al zeen net work in iraq discovered that iranians officers withg the
help of iraqi shiia thugs of nori al maleki are spying on iraqis cell phone and home phones, recording all conversations
specially on sunni people of iraq. This centre of spying located in a safe house in al mansoor district close to the green zone in baghdad
controled bt 4 officers from iran ,from etela3at the iran spy agency, and one from qodos army,and the central iran iuntelegent service
they also using this center to spy on usa, canada, uk and all other embassies and send all the details to Iran.
كشف احد العاملين في شبكة زين للاتصالات ان الشبكه مسيطر عليها من قبل الاطلاعات الايرانيه حيث فتح مركز اتصالات متطور في احد البيوت الواقعه في منطقة المنصور يديره اربعه من كبار ضباط الاطلاعات والحرس الثوري ويعمل معهم عدد من العراقيين هذا المركز يقوم بمراقبة جميع الاتصالات على الهواتف النقاله وتسجيل المكالمات ويعتبر هذا المركز من اهم مراكز التجسس على مستخدمي خط زين من اقصى شمال العراق الى اقصى جنوبه وشرقه وغربه .
Good. Maybe someone can figure out what our president has in mind besides a good re-election ad. Please ask them to put what they find on Wikileaks so we can know what we are doing too. Thanks.
Great article and refreshing to read. For the most part, Reza Sayah, has it right. The reason we have ended up down this path to war is because the main news has failed to control the outlandish statements being made and giving a voice to ideas that are just not true. This article will help set the record straight.
Keep in mind that Madeline Albright stated on "Sixty Minutes" that she believed that Iraq did "Not" have weapons of mass destruction. But that she thought Iran might like to achieve them. So why was the world surprised to find after the invasion that Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction? The answer to that question is because the media did not do it's job of requiring leaders to back up their statements with facts. And we are doing the same thing again with Iran today.
History repeating itself all over again. Are we stupid or what?
this article is full of valuable information that i will never use. CURRENT EVENTS ARE SO BORING!!!!
By all estimation Israel has many more nukes than Iran has now and most likely ever have. The US and Russia, during the cold war, had a balance of nukes that prevented any thoughts of nuclear war. The horror of such an exchange kept those nukes in their silos. I can't believe Iran would commit suicide by using one of those nukes on Israel or any other country. Pakistan and India have nukes and a lot of hatred for each other but they have yet to unleash those weapons on each other; they know the consequences of such an action. At one time we were afraid of a nuclear N.Korea and that seems to be a non-issue at the moment because of hunger (and most likely Chinese pressure).
Let's chill for now and see if the sanctions work. Maybe cooler heads in Iran will prevail.
Fareed: what I gather from what you said is that you agree and are worried, but you don't believe they'll be suicidal.
In theory Iran won't be the one to use a nucelar weapon.... but they might give one to Hamas then put their hands up and claim no involvement. Let's face it; if they directly did anything Iran would just turn into a sheet of glass.
iran would do no such thing. the enriched uranium or plutonium used in a bomb can be traced back to it's source very easily. the iaea already has samples of all of the special nuclear material in iran's possession. there would be no way for them to deny it. they know this, and they know we know, they know this.
iran is not building nukes. even if they were they are not even close since they havent even started the testing phase. terrorists will not be able to set off nukes on our land.
iran is not going to attack anyone it will be suicide if they do. if isreal feels iran is a threat, she can handle the situation without us.
besides were broke we cant afford another war that could break out into a world war.
Talk about over-analyzing. The author seems to talk in circles while ignoring common sense. The web of analysis in this article is exactly the reason why Hitler was able to bring his forces to bear before WWII. Unfortunately, it's going to take action from Iran for people to understand its government represents a danger to the entire middle east. History inevitably repeats itself and while we have authors like Reza Sayah sending our brains in circles trying to give Iran the benefit of the doubt whilst exercising caution, it makes it even more difficult for common sense to permeate.
common sense? over analyzing?
iran has posessed the means to built 1 nuke since the late 60's. They have possessed the means to build 5-6 more nukes since the mid 90's yet all of their enriched urnaium has sat peacefully in tehran under IAEA safeguards. if a nation has the means to build a weapon, and yet does not do so for nearly half a century now, the common sense analysis is that they have no intention of doing so now or in the future.
Where are you getting your facts from Bob? Have they really complied fully with the IAEA? If so why is the IAEA still in talks with the nation to deal with outstanding issues? Your comment regarding Iran's supposed ability to build nukes since the 60's has no merit, since its a statistic that has not been confirmed.
common sense,
how do you want to define 'complied fully'? in terms of allowing inspectors at declared or actual nuclear sites, then yes. they have. in fact that have gone above and beyond the requirments of the base NPT and have signed on to the 'secondary protocals', allowing for even more invasive inspections at nuclear facilities.
the main bone of contention is what is known as the 'alleged studies' the united states is int he posession of a laptop computer they claim contains proof that iran has an active nuclear weapons program up till about 10 years ago. however the us has not provided this computer to anyone for authentication, including the IAEA. they have essentially taken the united states word that the laptop contains legitimate intel. For me this is all too reminiscent of the alleged intel colin powel provided to the un about the iraqi mobile germ warfare labs, intel that it turned out was bought from disgruntled iraqis that had an ax to grind with saddam.
with regards to the ability to build a nuke, this is common knowledge to those who are well versed in iran's nuclear program. the united states gave iran a small research reactor fueled by weapons grade uranium back in '68. the mass of u235 contained int he core was 5580g. We provided two such cores. Given typical burnup rates for these small reactors, iran is in possession of spent fuel that contains about 8 kgs of HEU. more than enough for a single implosion bomb that uses simple fat man era technology. Since this uranium was highly enriched all that needs doing is the chemical seperation from fission products and the material can then be used directly in a bomb.
the rest of the uranium comes from 110 kgs of contained u235 in 20% enriched uranium given to iran by argentina when they converted their reactor to run off of lower enriched uranium in the 90's
again this is common knowledge. dont take my word for it if you wish. the info is avalible on the iaea website.
One things for certain – Iran is not the Iraq of 10 years ago, when the perceived potential was found to be nonexistent...
Just a though:Judaism has a has memories of people trying to wipe it out. This happened even after Israel was a nation. Now that they have the power to prevent it, it seems justifiable by their mindset that they take every action to prevent this reoccurring.
Iran has never in its history attacked another country.
@Neko
The Quran specifically states that all Jews should be killed
Where does it specifically say that? If you are going to quote the Quran then @Listening is better than Talking is right on.
Bukhari:V1B4N147 "People say, 'Whenever you sit for answering the call of nature, you should not face the Qiblah of Jerusalem.' I told them. 'Once I went up the roof of our house and I saw Allah's Apostle answering the call of nature while sitting on two bricks facing Jerusalem."
Ishaq:255 "Jewish rabbis came to the Apostle and asked him to answer four questions saying, 'If you do so we will follow you, testify to your truth, and believe in you.' They began, 'Why does a boy resemble his mother when the semen comes from the father?' Muhammad replied, 'Do you not know that a man's semen is white and thick and a woman's is yellow and thin? The likeness goes with that which comes to the top.' 'Agreed,' the rabbis proclaimed.... The rabbis said. 'But Muhammad, your spirit is an enemy to us, an angel who comes only with violence and the shedding of blood, and were it not for that we would follow you."
Ishaq:263 "Abu Bakr went into a Jewish school [there is no mention of him ever going into a Muslim school] and found many pupils gathered around Finhas, a learned rabbi. Bakr told the Jews to fear Allah and submit. He told them that they would find that Muhammad was an Apostle written in the Torah and Gospels. Finhas replied, 'Why does your god ask us to lend him money as your master pretends.' Abu was enraged and hit Finhas hard in the face [for telling the truth]. Were it not for the treaty between us I would cut off your head, you enemy of Allah. So Allah said, 'They will taste Our punishment of burning.'
Nothing is wrong to end hindu Judaism, criminal self center ism and hindu Jew's, criminal self centered in defiance of truth absolute, living not by truth but hinduism criminality of Jewish hinduism, racist self center ism to deny humanity their equality. al, the La. the limit, H most high, absolute rules the world and a hindu Jew, criminal self centered of Persian and Egyptian origin, pretending to be Israelite has no knowledge of it. hindu Judaism, criminal self center ism is not of human but of animals.
Debate that MORON.
Ishaq:364 "Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends. Whoever protects them becomes one of them, they become diseased, and will earn a similar fate."
Nothing wrong to avoid hindu Judeism, criminal self center ism to avoid sickness of hindu Jew, sick self centered for good of humanity.
Iran is the archetype of the modern Islamic terrorist state, going all the way back to the U.S. Hostage Crisis in 1979 through to persistent support for Hezbollah and al Qaeda. There is a fair body of evidence suggesting Iran provided logistical and financial assitance to the planners of 9/11; there is absolutely none linking Iraq or Saddam Hussein. Iraq was Bush's folly. Iran is the country that deserved U.S.-led regime change.
That said, Iran is well-organized military power. Invading Iran would be true war, not simply an occupation fighting guerilla insurgency (which is costly enough). Obama is right to consider such an engagement only if truly necessary.
– mm
Bull. They are a 3rd world country with a 3rd rate military. Remember Iraq and the "mother of all battles" In 1990? They were conquered in a week with almost no casualties. It would be the same with Iran. They would last about 3 days against Israeli and US forces. And they know it. Which is why they so desperately want nuclear weapons- otherwise no one takes them seriously.
That Iranian PM should either shave or grow a proper beard. He looks like a street person. Thats all we need- a wino with a hydrogen bomb.
hehehe...
So funny.
Only thing that worries me about US is Rush Limbaugh's Radio show is number 1. So many People keep on hearing irrational and evil talk. Vladimir Putin, Bashar Al Assad, George W Bush, Karl Rove, Ahmadinijad, Rush Limbaugh, Pakistan's ISI, Burmese Regime, Hamas, North Korean leaders should all be isolated from rational human civilization.
President Obama wants it to appear to be the GOPs fault when we go to war with Iran. He authorized the Stuxnet virus attack on Iranian centrifuges, and he is well aware that Iran would not be in such a hurry over a power plant.
If Iran only wanted nuclear power why would they invoke economic hardships on themselves? Why be in a huge, dangerous hurry to build a power plant when they have 100-200 years of natural gas reserves?
So considering the consequences, which are real and immediate why is Iran in a big hurry? Same reason they are building warplanes, warships, missiles, and especially ICBMs.
They intend to produce military power and a detente umbrella using nuclear weapons under which they can exert their negative influence to destroy Israel and the USA.
No doubt about it.
There cannot be an understanding of ideas that promote killing of people who's ideas differ from your own. The French expression "Vive la difference" is what will make human beings better human beings.
in the late 60's the us was pressuring iran to build 27 nuclear reactors and but a plutonium extraction plant from the united states so they could produce their own nuclear fule in house. This was back when oil was THREE DOLLARS a barrel. back thent he logic is they should free up as much oil production as possible to sell ont he open market.
if they dont need nuke power now with oil over 100$, why did they need it then?
To all those who state that Israel is genocidal and destroys Palestinians in their camps it is time for a realty check. Ask the Palestinian leadership, President Abbas and the Hamas,who govern the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza,directly if they would accept Israel as a sovereign nation. Perhaps when you hear their response "Absolutely Not" you will give pause to your inaccurate and wildly wrong statements.Israel does not occupy Gaza but has to defend itself from indiscriminate Iranian supplied rocket attacks from Hamas. If Israel was genocidal how do these naysayers deal with the fact that almost 20% of Israels' population of 7 million (1.4 million) are Israeli Arabs who live in complete freedom,have meaningful jobs, are judges and members of the israeli Parliament. That can hardly be described as "genocidal "and apartheid. Perhaps some reality checks are in order and a step off the anti-semitic and anti-zionist crazy train is due. Israel is the only democratic country in the Middle East. They do not stone adulteresses. They do not hang Gays. They do not beat women for not covering their heads and faces in public. They accept all colours races and creeds in their country, but they will not accept threats to their national security and those that do so threaten them should take note.
Israel has never been the problem. The problem is clear but our media and some of our politicians have been playing PC games for so long they have forgotten how to tell the truth from a lie. Persians care about some portion of one Arab tribe? No. Pakistanis? No. Iraqis? No. Egyptians? No. Yemen? No. Bahrain? No. Afghanistan? No. All of these nations have their own huge problems yet they are obsessed with hatred for Israel and the USA. Why?
One reason only, we are not Muslims.
Anyone who thinks the threat to Israel comes from an overt Iranian attack, or thinks that the lack of such a threat is reassuring, doesn't know what they are talking about or is intentionally skewed in favor of non-confrontation at all cost. The threat from a nuclear Iran comes from its myriad connections to proxy terrorist groups. You will not see a missile trail coming from Iran if a nuke or dirty bomb goes off – and it is counting on that plausible deniability.
You are correct that is a huge issue and threat.
However, the conventional ICBM is also a threat. We feared when the Soviets launched Sputnik because that is a step toward global reach missiles. Iran has launched three satellites into orbit. That base that blew up in Iran late last year was an ICBM development site.
So we are supposed to believe the word of Iran's supporters that Iran meant things like "wipe from the map" in the nicest possible way. OK.
Would all Islamists on this site please register using your own names intead of hiding behind "Caucasian" names.
@Neko
The Quran specifically states that all Jews should be killed
Where does it specifically say that? If you are going to quote the Quran then @Listening is better than Talking is right on.
Qur'an 59:6
"What Allah gave as booty to His Messenger, He has taken away from the Jews. Allah gives His Messenger Lordship over whom He will. Whatever booty Allah has given to Muhammad and taken away from the (Jewish) people of the townships, belongs to Allah and to His Apostle."
Tabari VII:94 "The Prophet said, 'Who will rid me of Ashraf?' Muhammad bin Maslamah, said, 'I will rid you of him, Messenger of Allah. I will kill him.' 'Do it then,' he said, 'if you can.'"
Bukhari:V4B52N270 "The Prophet said, 'Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf who has really hurt Allah and His Apostle?' Muhammad bin Maslama said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you want me to kill him?' He replied in the affirmative."
Ishaq:365 "'Who will rid me of Ashraf?' Maslama said, 'I will deal with him for you. O Apostle, I will kill him.' Muhammad said, 'Do so if you can.'"
Ishaq:365
Tabari VII:94 "Muhammad bin Maslamah said, 'O Messenger, we shall have to tell lies.' 'Say what you like,' Muhammad replied. 'You are absolved, free to say whatever you must.'"
Tabari VII:97 "The next morning, the Jews were in a state of fear on account of our attack upon the enemy of Allah. After the assassination, the Prophet declared, 'Kill every Jew.'"
Bukhari:V1B1N6 "Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country."
Tabari VII:97
Ishaq:369 "Thereupon Mas'ud leapt upon Sunayna, one of the Jewish merchants with whom his family had social and commercial relations and killed him. The Muslim's brother complained, saying, 'Why did you kill him? You have much fat in you belly from his charity.' Mas'ud answered, 'By Allah, had Muhammad ordered me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.' Wherein the brother said, 'Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!'"
Nothing is wrong to end hindu Judaism, criminal self center ism and hindu Jew's, criminal self centered in defiance of truth absolute, living not by truth but hinduism criminality of Jewish hinduism, racist self center ism to deny humanity their equality. al, the La. the limit, H most high, absolute rules the world and a hindu Jew, criminal self centered of Persian and Egyptian origin, pretending to be Israelite has no knowledge of it. Be a humsn, "HIS" desire not a hindu Jew, criminal self centered.
Does the fact that Iran's leader has publicly stated that he would like to wipe Israel off of the map count for anything? Wake up people! Iran will build them and they will most definitely use them.
Hey...there's an election going on ...Now, if the guy in Iran was an American citizen we could just drone him but unfortunately, he isn't one of us and we have to wait until the big day.
His rhetoric is toxic, but that doesn’t mean he's willing to start a nuclear war. I think he's quite rational in this respect and will never make the first move. What's the point, his country would be destroyed too. It's like a new cold war, but between Israel and Iran.
And barring any historical references to the nutbar, you know how that "he's quite rational in this respect and will never make the first move"?
Loser: Israel: no political clout during this election year...the bus is rolling...oooops...watch out. The silver medal goes to USA. Really nothing to lose on this one going along with Irans game plan and may just put off the fireworks until after the election is over. Pulling up on the shot will not win the game but sits pretty for the 2nd place purse. And the winner..........Gold goes to IRAN. Yes....Use of weapons grade materials production just in time for an embattled presidents re-election campaign and controlling the game...BRILLIANT.
My largest concern isn't with Iran's government. It's with Iran's security. There are many radical organizations over there with many different radical views. It would be impossible for us to list the possibilities that could occur should a nuke be overtaken. The US and Russia probably aren't extremely secure about their nukes either, but I can't imagine what it would be like to have your nukes surrounded by well armed extremist groups and have much less security and little to show of an intelligence organization that tracks these groups. I don't worry about Ahmadinejad with nukes as much as Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, or some other sole purposed militant group.
Ok...good. After reading these posts I think we are getting really close to resolving this issue. See, talking it out is good.
Permit me to present a discussion why Iran will never nuke Israel.
Israel is a very small country with a territory of only 20,700 square kilometers (7,992 sq mi),
Israel has a population is 7,798,600 inhabitants
About 5,865,300 Jews
About 1,597,300 Arabs/Muslims/Palestinians
About 318,200 Others
Israel is home to various religious shrines for a dozen different, but historically related faiths.
Included in those shrines is the Dome of the Rock. The third holiest place in Islam.
Iran would not be able to “wipe Israel off the face” of the Earth without killing many of their fellow believers, destroying the Dome of the Rock and leaving the territory uninhabitable. Very counter-productive, if the goal is to give Palestinians back their "home land".
If that were to happen, it would be the other Islamic nations which would be the first to rise up against Iran. Non-Muslim nations wouldn’t have to lift a finger in retaliation or revenge.
However, in the Greater Metropolitan New York/Northeast area there is a population of 22.2 million people. And 3.5 million of them are Jewish (more than half of Israel’s population):
Imagine for the moment that you are Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, where would you most likely want to detonate a nuclear device to kill the most of your "enemies" possible; Jewish or otherwise? Hmmm?
America, it ain’t Israel which is in danger. It’s us!
Iran is harmless, let's not touch it!.
The responders don' know history how Nazi's came to power. Europe and US were appeasing Hitler until the war broke out and the 6 millions of jews and another several millions of other nationalities were exterminated in the camps. Everything was done to prevent that war including giving up on Czechoslovakia. some ignorant dumbheads here say that Israel is committing genocide without knowing a damn thing about Israel, how democratic and humane is this country and its people. How about Palestinians rejoicing the release of their serial murderers from prisons, or 9/11?
Why people are so hypocritical (or ignorant) or purely antisemitic? What is happening in Syria, anyone gives a sh... in this forum?
It's time to take out the nuclear reactors in Iran before they decide to plant "mushrooms" in our own backyard; and while I do not necessarily support full-blown war with Iran, as we just cannot afford more conflict thanks to the trillions of $$$$ our ex-president, GW Bush, wasted in Afghanistan and Iraq, I still think we need to prevent Iran from further enriching their uranium to weapon-grade level. As a previous commentor wrote on a different post, arming Iran with nuclear weapons is like giving al Qaeda a nuclear warhead to do with as they please. It's not an option – Iran is a Terrorist sponsoring nation that needs to be stopped.
There's soo many people out there saying attacking Iran would be catastrophic. There are many that say Iran hasn't even decided to acquire nuclear weapons. People who believe Iran's leaders are wanting to start Armageddon by setting off a nuke and then waiting for the Mahdi to come are conspiracy theorist morons. The same idiots who think Barack Obama was born in Kenya. You guys are soo stupid... After all this you still won't learn...
attacking iran WOULD be catastrophic. Their enriched urnaium is located in the middle of tehran. a city the size of new york. to bomb the facility to deny them access to this uranium would be an environmental disaster akin to purposefully causing chernobyl in midtown manhattan.
What a nauseating piece of "news." Yes, let's defend Iran even though they burn our flags, wish 'death to America' and want Isreal wiped off the face of the Earth. I am so sick of this country and the media having no freaking backbone and being wrapped up in political correctness. They would be dancing in the street if they killed you or I, but we feel the need to be 'holier than thou' and that's going to screw us.
What are you talking about? Burning American flags and wishing death to America? That describes more than 3/4 of the planet. Typical American...expert on everything, knowledge of nothing.
Um. Does that 3/4 of the planet include Iran? Which I was talking about? If so, I thank you for leaving the most pointless response in internet history.
how would you feel about iran if they managed to depose the democratically elected president of the united states, and then installed a brutal military dictatorship? what if they goaded mexico into war with the us and supplied mexico with chemical weapons that killed 100,000 americans? what would you think of iran then? because thats EXACTLY what the us has done to iran. i think they have the RIGHT to burn our flags and wish death to the great satan.
MAD worked fine, if tensely between the 2 largest superpowers for decades. Containment of Iran is a non-issue. Attacking a former puppet-State by presuming their unproven intent is irresponsible, and would further destabilize world petroleum markets among other U.S. interests, let alone further erroding any moral credibility we might hope to have in the Muslim world. Come on GOP, pay attention!
Qur’an:9:5 – “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”
Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”
Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”
Qur’an:8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”
Nothing is wrong to end hindu Judaism, criminal self center ism and hindu Jew's, criminal self centered in defiance of truth absolute, living not by truth but hinduism criminality of Jewish hinduism, racist self center ism to deny humanity their equality. al, the La. the limit, H most high, absolute rules the world and a hindu Jew, criminal self centered of Persian and Egyptian origin, pretending to be Israelite has no knowledge of it.
Here's my take on the Iranian Nuclear
Q: FIRSTLY, are we willing to trust Iran with Nuclear weapons?
A: No way! Else risk having a volatile ME brimming with nukes in tha hands of unstable Islamic radical regimes!
and they will send the nuc to syrian thugs and killers and we saw what the shiia killers can do as they kill there own people
Q: Can we let diplomacy go on right until the point Iran gets nukes?
A: No way, we need to stop them right at their tracks! we must attack iran and syria now and keep israel and middleast safe and keep the world safe from the evil shiia and iranian thugs
Q: Is a war in the ME now more disastrous than after Iran has developed nukes?
A: Clearly NOT!
Q: Will a war with Iran now cause major upheaval, increase terror against Americans all over the world incl. terror right here in America from homegrown Islamic radicals?
A: No . But it may just be necessary to prevent potential major catastrophe or even a WW3 later on. iran is a paper tiger they do have more than 45 opposition groups we can use them to attack iran from the inside among them the arabestan province , the sunni in iran, the kurdish in iran, the lures and turks, the assyrians, the stuudents and women movments, the bahaii and persians egtc.....we must help the iraqi sunni to destroy the iran interests behind the lione.
Q: Is war the only answer to stop them?
A:yes! as diplomacy will never work with iran and syria or any shiia , they are an evil liers, they call lies taqeya, there god called ali and hussain!!!
dont allow iranians to come to usa canada or any where for any reason that include the iraqi shiia and syrian shiia thuygs.
Q: Is it time to strike Iran?
A:yes 100% as the arab spring rising and the sunni arabs will help to attack the shiia interests, saudi arabia and gulf states will pump more oil 3 time more to offset iran oil problem so no worry about oil flow and price.
Q:What do we mean by Iranian compliance?
A: STOP enrichment beyond 3.5% and surrender in a verifiable manner all stocks of enriched Uranium above 3.5%
Dismantle their underground enrichment plants in Qom and other places. Allow IAEA inspectors unfettered access to all facilities. THEY WILL NEVER DO THAT MARK MY WORDS DONT BE FOOL ATTACK NOW....OBAMA WILL NOT ATTACK THE REASON BECAUSE HE HAS A NOBEL PRIZE FOR PEACE AND HE WILL KEEP THAT IMAGE OF PEACE , BUT THAT WILL DESTROY THE WORLD....WAKE UP OBAMA
DONT TRUST IRAN AND THE SHIIA
Until we do all these the world can never be safe from ISLAMIC NUCLEAR BLACKMAIL !!!!!
why should iran stop enrichment beyond 3.5%? they have a legitimate, verifiable, civilian need for 19.75% enriched uranium.
Why should iran dismantle underground facilities?
Iran DOES allow the IAEA unfettered access to ALL NUCLEAR facilities.
100% fabricated by AIPAC and their zi0nist minions
The world waited while Germany rearmed itself...all in the name of self-defense and national self-esteem following the Armistice in 1918. The result of waiting was more than six million innocent jews murdered by a fanatic who wrote his plan years earlier. Iran has made it clear through words and its ongoing sponsorship of Hamas and Hezbollah (not to mention the murderous Assad regime) that they are without honor, cannot be trusted, and will kill as many Jews (and Americans) they can. I can never forgive them for the Iran Hostage crisis. There support of terrorist acts through the 80's and 90's including the killing of an American in a wheelchair is a testament to the evil of the Iranian government.
all you need to attack and finsh syria are 50 uman aircraft drawn attack syrian president pallace his army base and provide cover to homs and let the free syrian army do the rest, attack syrian weapons safe houses and the supplies root it is very easy you can let these fighters fly from saudi , jordan turkey and the med sea .....days and night 24 hours round the clock destroying radars and soft target
The only country that is a significant threat on the Middle East is Israel.
Israeli attack on Iraq´s Osiraq nuclear reactor in 1981 was unprovoked
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm
The only ones that have any issues with Iran are the Israelis and their American puppet president.
So tell me why should Israel be the only one to have Nuclear capability in the region and no one else?
So here Israel is the aggressor just like in all the other wars they have started.
Oh and then they come crying to the USA.
oh please come help us we are being picked on and attacked.
We have No business helping Israel in any way.
I Hate to tell you the bad news “We have NO friends in the Middle East”
Where was Israel during 9/11, did they try to stop it?
Did our friends the Israelis help us after?
Were they there with us in Afghanistan?
Israel.does not care about the consequences of their actions.
They care only about their own survival and only their own.
They do not care who else their actions will harm.
On June 8, 1967 Israeli forces attacked USS Liberty with full knowledge that this was an American ship, they killed 34 brave men.
So once again I say “We have NO friends in the Middle East”
Reality! Israel's militarism and Israel's nukes have destabilized the Middle East. A nuclear armed Iran would restore a semblance of balance of power. That would have a stabilizing influence on the whole region.
The Israeli scare mongering that Iran would nuke Israel is no more than self serving balderdash. They wouldn't dare. Israel has some 300 highly sophisticated deliverable nuclear warheads.
The reality is that Israel is desperate to preserve their ability to romp stomp bomb and terrorize at will in what they see as a hostile neighborhood.
And guess what? Their neighbors ARE hostile to them. The Israelis aren't just paranoid, they are right. Their neighbors would like to annihilate them.
And guess why? Why are their neighbors hostile to them and why do their neighbors want to annihilate them.
Answer: Because they have a proclivity to thieve land and bulldoze down peoples homes. Then when people object to that injustice, they respond with targeted killing and oppression of dissent.
When that dissent spreads to their neighboring states, they respond with romping stomping and bombing, terrorizing their neighbor states. Yes, Netanyahu may be a paranoid delusional, but he is right too. They want to destroy Israel.
You say that, well, then Israel must just start behaving normally. But not so fast, they behave that way because that is their nature. People or states cannot just simply change their nature. That would be to change and become a different person or a different state. Peope or states cannot change who or what they are.
But the problem is that when Israel goes to romping and stomping and bombing a neighboring country, emotions run high and sanity goes out the window. In that case, against a backdrop of high emotion an otherwise sane Iran might very well loose a volley of nukes at Israel.
No, Netanyahu is right, to prevent another holocaust, Israel has to preserve it's ability to romp and stomp and bomb their neighboring countries without fear that one of them might loose a volley of nukes at them.
Israel must destroy Iran's ability to threaten Israel. And they cannot do it by themselves, the American soldiers must do it for them.
Gird thy loins my fellow Americans, for the task ahead is arduous and it is dangerous. No greater love hath a man, than that he lay down his life for another. My fellow American, our love for Israel is being tested. Will we be found wanting?
"Why are their neighbors hostile to them and why do their neighbors want to annihilate them"
Because the Kuran tells all Muslims to kill all those who do not believe in Allah, that is why. If these people are allowed to wipe Israel from the face of this earth, then they will go after others until Allah's will has been accomplished. Thanks for asking Abdul. Good question.
"Gird thy loins", so funny.
“I've been confronting that question since I commanded Central Command in 2008,” Dempsey told Zakaria. “And we are of the opinion that the Iranian regime is a rational actor.”
If you trust him to command your military trust his judgement. This is all hype to put political pressure on Iran.
Does anyone really think iran will use nuclear weapons? Even I will then support an all out attack, regime change, whatever on Iran, because this would be intolerable. The entire world will not only put sanctions but will refuse to talk to them at all.
Israel is less than 60km across. Think about it. How do you contain an attack to affect only Israel and not the Palestinians? Might as well nuke the the Palestinians and all the surrounding countries as well. Fukushima created a 30 km unsafe zone, imagine a nuclear weapon?
Iran would be mad to launch a nuclear attack, and anyone who thinks they will is mad, anyone who says they will is playing politics.
“But the political intent of what he said is unambiguous, which is to deny Israel’s right to exist and to encourage the Arab’s to do so as well.”
What is actually meant by the phrase "Israel's right to exist" is, in its complete form, "Israel's right to exist as a Jewish supremacist state that denies rights to non-Jews and commits ethnic cleansing and other human rights abuses in order to establish and maintain an overwhelming Jewish majority." Leaving aside the fact that governments don't actually have "rights to exist", few would challenge the existence or morality of an Israeli state whose government respected human and legal rights regardless of religion or ethnicity.
what kind of proof do you have, or can you quote from valid reliable sources that Israel has ever committed ethnic cleansing?
Your are delusional if you think the Iranian leadership is not delusional. These are religious fanatics who are in-charge of a country with billions of dollars. In that environment, its easy for them to be delusional.
the afgani investigation and the international lab proved now that 15 usa soldiers was involved of killing more than 16 children and women, and that 15 soldiers ra pe 2 afgani ladies young ladies ra pe them repeatdley and then shot them dead and burned there bodies , exactley as it happened in iraq when usa soldiers ra ped 14 years old girl then shot her and shot her parents and brothers and burned there bodies ...usa did that in vitnam ,korea and many other places they are murderous thugs ra piest killers and OBAMA say soyy all the time!!?/while leaving evil iranians and evil syrian bashar al asad killing more civilians obama is a cowered president if obama want to fix this problem he must attack syria now and remove bashar al asad to show to the muslim world that he mean it, remove the evil in syria now and prove your point OBAMA.......why you are silent...SILENCE IS A CRIME.
Magnificent beat ! I wish to apprentice whilst you amend your web site, how can i subscribe for a blog website? The account helped me a appropriate deal. I were a little bit familiar of this your broadcast provided vibrant transparent concept