By Fareed Zakaria, CNN
President Obama has been trying to cool down the war fever that suddenly gripped Washington early this month. But Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's visit and the flurry of statements surrounding it have created a dangerous dynamic. It is easy to see how things move toward war with Iran. It is difficult to see how they don't.
The pressure is building on Iran, but there are no serious discussions of negotiated solutions. Israel has already discounted the proposed new talks. Republican candidates will denounce any deal, no matter how comprehensive the inspections.
So either Iran suddenly and completely surrenders - or Israel will strike. And Bibi Netanyahu knows that the window presented by the U.S. political season is closing. If he were to strike between now and November, he would be assured of unqualified support from Washington. After November, the American response becomes less predictable no matter who is elected president. The clock is ticking.
Read: Zakaria explains why oil prices keep rising.
Before we set out on a path to another Middle East war, let's remember some facts. First, Iran does not have nuclear weapons and the evidence is ambiguous - genuinely unclear - as to whether it has decided to make them.
But what if Iran did manage to develop a couple of crude nukes several years from now?
Obama says a nuclear Iran would set off an arms race in the Middle East.
But a nuclear North Korea has not led the two countries directly threatened by its weapons - South Korea and Japan - to go nuclear.
Read: Zakaria explains why Iran is a rational actor
Saudi Arabia and Egypt did not go nuclear in response to Israel's buildup of a large arsenal of nuclear weapons. After all, Egypt has gone to war three times with Israel. By contrast, it has not been in a conflict with Iran for centuries. So why would it go nuclear in response to Iran when it didn't in response to Israel?
Obama explained that a nuclear Iran would be a problem like India and Pakistan with their nuclear weapons. But India and Pakistan went to war three times in 30 years before they had nuclear weapons. Since they went nuclear, they have actually been restrained and have not fought a full-scale war in 40 years.
It's actually a case that shows the stabilizing, not destabilizing, effects of nuclear deterrence.
If Israel genuinely believes that deterrence doesn't work in the Middle East, why does it have a large nuclear arsenal if not to deter its enemies?
Iran's weapons could fall into the hands of terrorists, says the President. But would a country that has labored for decades to pursue a nuclear program and suffered huge sanctions and costs to do so then turn around and give away the fruits of its efforts to a gang of militants? This kind of reasoning is part of the view that the Iranians are mad, messianic people bent on committing mass suicide.
When Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey explained on GPS last month that he viewed Iran as a "rational actor," he drew howls of protest. But Dempsey was making a good point. A rational actor is not a reasonable actor or one who has the same goals or values that you or I do. A rational actor, in economics or international relations, is someone who is concerned about his survival.
The one thing we know about Iran's leaders is that they are concerned about their survival. The question right now is not whether Iran can be rational - but whether the U.S. and Israel can accurately reason through the costs of a preventive war and its huge consequences.
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Fareed I watch you programme almost every sunday and I have never seen such partiality under the guise of debate. You always weight your programme in favour of Obama; you defend Obama regardless. Your panel today on Iran and Israel is conveniently positioning two American pundits versus two Middle-Eastern pundits who are pro-Iran. Your programme deserves to be scrutinised for its blatant bias and lack of rigour.
Rhoda Kadalie
So then why do you watch?
I watch to see what is not and never reported. You should do the same. See one side is for stupid people. Israel can only take one atom bomb period and not survice. Iran can take make and survive. Think, 18 miles wide???? Do not even need a full bomb
I watch to see what is not and never reported. You should do the same. Seeing one side is for stupid people. Israel can only take one atom bomb period and not survive. Iran can take many and survive. Think, 18 miles wide???? Do not even need a full bomb to destroy Israel. They are the only democracy in that region. That makes Israel rational and every other country in the Mideast dangerous.
Simple, and good, point.
would hate to have you controlling my destiny
H57, your logic is grossly flawed. As Israel is (for all intensive purposes) protected under the US nuclear umbrella, Iran would suffer massive atomic attack by the US carriers to all its military installations. If the single nuke launched by Iran hit a population center, all bets are off for every Iranian city.
I do believe a peaceful solution to the nuclear crisis with Iran is still feasible. It just takes a lot of diplomatic skills and tactics and I think the supreme leader and his followers could be persuaded to comply to the NPT regime. On the contrary, should Netanyahu launch a strike on Iran, he wouold have a thorn in his side for the rest of his life. The Iranians, whether they like their regime or not would all rally behind the leader and vow vengeance. Furthermore the powerholders would be even more mercurial and vindictive. The Israelis would have to fear even further more for their security.
I also agree that Iran is rational. They know it would be complete suicide for all of their people to launch a nuclear assault on Israel. I also don't agree with Israel's paranoid view of the world. I understand where it comes from, but don't believe it is rational. I might be damaged to in that way if a large nation targeted my ethnicity out for destruction, but it still doesn't make the paranoid delusions any more real. The jist of this is that Israel can't sleep well at night knowing that it is at all possible for Iran to nuke them. They would have the entire world fight world war III just to sleep well at night. I'm sorry guys, but you are going to have to sleep badly like the rest of us.
There is a saying: "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." Zakaria is an enemy of the truth. He has been known to talk about the Jenin Masacre, an event which has been proven to have never occurred. A hoax. He is clearly anti-Israel, our ally and the only democracy in the entire Middle East.
CNN likes to employee "journalists" with questionable connections apparently. The article by Talal Abu Rahrm earlier today, a man tied to the al dura hoax, pure anti-Israel garbage, propaganda, not news. CNN covers the attacks on Israel in the past few days, with over 90 rockets aimed only at civilian areas, today hitting next to a school in BeerSheva-as though the Palestinian terrorists firing the rockets are the victims. Their coverage is propaganda, not news.
H57
The Arab world feels as much threatened as Israel if Iran managed to have nukes.
Texana
You probably one of those who believed Saddam Hussein had WMD. I never heard of anti-Israel propaganda from any U.S. media. By the way, I believe the U.S. has a great responsibility to make sure Iran does not develop nukes; I don’t want the U.S. to rush bombing Iran because Iran is set to retaliate on our soil. The plot is in the novel ‘Twins in Arms.’
just shut..you stupid camel jokey !!!!!
to johnB
just shut up !!!! your stupid camel jokey
Dear god, there are a good number of members of Isreali politics as well who don't want war. I find it strange that anyone saying 'hey... guys... do we really want to start an international conflict' are instantly labeled 'Anti-Israel'.
@ H57, Your argument does not hold ground at all ... think 18 miles wide ... any nuclear attack on Israel is going to cause more Palestinian deaths than all Israeli deaths put together thereby losing out on the very cause that Iran presumably is fighting for.
It is good to watch a diversity of reporting to get all sides, agreeable and disagreeable, to see what is being said. Israel would not do well in a nuclear attack, being the size of New Jersey, however, the Palestinian homeland would also become a nuclear sandbox in such an attack on Israel, and Iran, regardless of its size, would suffer incomprehensible losses, as well. There are NO real winners in a Middle East nuclear showdown. Let us not think otherwise, because it is delusional, and madness.
I stoped watching because his views are anti American, he is pro muslim and his approach is a wolf ia sheep cover. Of course he can't go off dirrectly anti american but view his shows and find out for your self. I will stop watching cnn soon if they keep ignoring the facts
I agree with Rhoda, and that's why I don't watch the show. It's just a nonstop Obama commercial. And I'm not a republican.
@ Rhoda and Zaka-Who – Fareed is not making propaganda for Obama. It doesn't require much thought to realise it.
Rhoda, the two so-called "Middle-Eastern" pundits are Daniel Levy, a British-Israeli political scientist and Rula Jebreal an Israeli born journalist. They're not pro Iran. They just don't see that war is an answer to the nuclear crisis.
Fareed, it was such a lively debate and it was really hilariously to see how Daniel Levy and Rula Jebreal argued with Bret Stephens and knocked some sense into the hawkish Elliot Abrahms.
Good FOR you! I applaud your intelligence. CNN is an Obama Propaganda machine....even while the Ship of America is sinking more and more.....
Ignorant...
Zakaria u have your head stuck in the sand. People like u r responsible for the holocaust. Appeasement and containment of an islamic fundamentalist state that repeatedly threatened the very existence of the jewish state is a fool hearty line of thought and u should stop th nonsense
I find this article very sideways and biased toward the Iranian regime. I disagree with you, Zak, and any other Muslim that thinks this article is OK. Iran is heading for a world of hurt and I hope they get it, ten fold. There are many forms of cancer and this, Islam, is maybe the worst.
Although I feel no animosity toward the jeweish people, and don't wish any of them to suffer or die, I have no problem with the demise of the modern state of Israel. I know alot of people in Chrstendom have been brainwashed into believing they have some special relationship with God, but if those supposed 'Christians' would actually gain an accurate knowledge of scripture, they would understand that the 'modern state' of Israel has nothing in common with the Ancient nation of Israel, and decendants of Abraham.
Ancient Israel and the system of worship that God gave them through Moses ceased to exist when the Roman army invaded and destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 CE.
Your words betray your irrational hatred. Zakaria wasn't responsible for the holocaust, Nazi Germany was responsible.
Playing the Holocaust card, tired and all washed up, no one cares any more
jaeger
There is nothing in Zakaria article hint to be anti Jews or anti Israel. He’s merely advocating the public to judge things own their own. Beside, Israel always gets its wish from the U.S., but this time it’s going to be very costly. We better be prepared because the Ayatollahs are already had their sleeper cells to strike us at home. This is not a joke. Read the novel ‘Twins in Arms’. This is a warning.
Ahhh, Jaeger, playing the Holocaust card....again! This horrendous act happened what, 65 years ago and still as soon as someone makes a comment about Israel...it's the Holocaust all over again. Mosad's got so many Sayans in USA, we don't know which synagogue isn't a Mosad outlet. Oy vey
Actually, it was the Christians who committed the holocaust. But what the hell, lets make the Palestinians pay for it instead of the Germans by taking their homes and giving it to the Jews. These are the same Palestinians who, while the jews were hated and persecuted in christian Europe, treated the Jews as equal and gave them the same freedoms as they themselves enjoyed.
I presume Mohammed talked to Allah about giving you permission to lie?
"Zakaria u have your head stuck in the sand."
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So how is he any different than any of the other talking head news reporters that are pro or anti-Obama ?
Zacaria, as a Muslim can not be objective. In order to look objective, he puts in some true, and a lot of lies. Iran is an aggressor, is involved in every conflict in the Middle East, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, African countries with a conflict, you name it. They have a plan to become an empire and control the oil in the Middle East (and as a result in the world), with a nuke they can threaten Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, and don't forget, the Hamas and other groups who are getting weapons and money through the tunnels, will be free to attack Israel and feeling safe that Iran will threaten Israel not to respond. Why Zacaria does not talk about it?
I'm preety shocked at this blatant bias. It's a dangerous game, people. We don't get nuclear dress rehearsals. And Iran is not trustworthy, Duh. Fareed should be charged with sedition.
Seriously? As a Muslim he cannot be objective? And what makes Christians and their views more objective? Or Jews? Or Hindus? Take about being prejudiced...
Zakaria is always pro-Muslim and is never a moderate. He does conceed that giving Isreal some heavy bombers will allow better nuclear deterrence to prevent Iran from developing ambiguous nuclear technology. Israel needs to act soon before Obama gets soft on Iran. If US doesn't provide mid-air refuel or conventional heavy bombers, I am afraid the only option is a nuclear war head to those sites... Ironically, Iran will get a nuke in an unintentional way.
May be Muslim Zakaria as you say, cannot be objective. Also you, as fanatic prejudice Jews or Zionist are doing the same.
Excellent post Rhoda...
Zakaria is a Muslim with secret sympathies for Iran.
James, where did you hear that Fareed is a Muslim? Are you sure you know the difference between Arab, Indian, Muslim and Persian? Just wondering.
James: You are right but he (Zakaria) openly, not secretly sympathizes with Iran but he also openly protects and defends that stupid and deadly ideology called Islam.
Fareed Zakaria is indeed a Muslim. He was also, if memory serves, the wine critic for the Spectator Magazine. What that tells us is that he is a secular Muslim, just like many of us who are secular Christians. The only folks who would assume that his views are thoroughly colored by his religion are those who allow theirs to be; in other words, our American version of the Taliban.
Us protects Israel and Russia protects Iran. So nobody is going to Nuke nobody and Bibi knows this. What he is afraid of is losing the military edge in a region full of hostile countries that apparently even the sanctions cannot reign in. He knows that militarily, even with the A bomb he is no match for Iran and it's proxies, so he tries to drag us into a quarrel without any consideration that we are broke and we have no interest in fighting another war in the region. That man is Dangerous.
Russia protects no one, they simply want money. In the six-day war I believe (though it may have been another one) they were going to provide Egypt with arms to fight Israel. However, the US paid them the money, and they did not deliver the arms to Egypt, thus leading to Israeli victory
mardjan
There is a silent agreement between Israel and the Arabs to influence the White Houses to do the impossible to stop Iran from having nuclear weapons even through a war. Bibi is playing along knowing he hold the joker. If Israel attacked Iran on its own, the U.S. will be dragged in. But the U.S. knows very well that it’s not in Russia’s interest to let Iran develop nuclear weapons. Russia is only after the money and the prestige. In the mean time, it's a drama and higher gas at the pump.
Another demonstration of why women are not qualified to comment on world politics.
Back to the cave you go.
By yourself.
It is very convienient how the author left out the fact: Iran has claimed many times; We will wipe out Israel; We will destroy the U.S. ... So lets just sit back and wait for them.. to make the first move. Then more sanctions ( to show how week we are)???
Iran has actually never "claimed" such a thing. This is Faux News propaganda that keeps getting perpetuated. Show me one *credible* source that Iran has made such a threat.
He's left out a lot of things. Wonder what Iran is paying him.
David, are you suggesting that the US should go to war with every country that says threatening things?
You only take them at their word when it interests your narrative.
It's funny because you misspelled "weak" as "week" and now you look uneducated.
Major Tom
Ahmadinejad said it many times on separate occasions. And by doing so, Iran became the supper terrorist power of the Middle East. It took over Lebanon through Hezbollah, who fought Israel for over a month. Iran although through one of its loyalists, Mehdi El Sader’s army, fought the U.S. Army in Iraq and introduced the IED that killed many of our shoulders. Read Twins in Arms and I bet you will hate me.
germany killed all jews in ww2 and they all blame iran when they lived in europe they where the biggest peace disrupters
is just the meter of time when they turn around and start fighting us in the usa
The more Obama "Reaches Out" to the Islamic world, the MORE they despise him, not LESS. A Poll not long ago showed that Arabs had MORE liking for Bush than Obama. They overwhelmingly have No Use for him. Makes some of them smarter than American voters(!). Given a chance, Obama would throw Israel under the bus. THE Israelis know this, which is why they know they have really been left to their own devices to deal with Iran. Obama KILLED what WAS a strong alliance, and did it in order to suck up to the Arab world. Despite 9/11...Obama supported the building of a MEGA-MOSQUE just blocks from Ground Zero of 9/11...DESPITE the fact that the entire area contained ashes from over 1000 Victims of that Muslim atrocity. Those bodies were NEVER FOUND, Incinerated by Jet Fuel. You sure know how to go along with the wishes of Americans. Some 70+ percent were opposed to allowing that building, ever. It was a ruse, of course. Historically, when Muslims slaughtered a people, they would destroy their Churches and build a Mosque where the main Church was. That is what they did in Cordoba, Spain and the original name for this horrendous Mosque project was The Cordoba Project. You are so smart, Obama. You then decided to hold the trial of the alleged Mastermind of 9/11 in New York City, until N.Y.ers went NUTS. In a flash, you put a BULL"S eye target on the city for a Jihad attack. It would have bankrupted N.Y.C. just for security. Fortunately, you were FORCED to back down and keep the Bush decision to go with a Military trial.
Wow did you just say that more muslims liked Bush more than Obama. that is the biggest lie if i ever heard one. i live in a muslin country and they despise. i mean hate bush to the core. they like Obama because he is trying to work with the muslim countries and not just treating them like all terrorist. get your facts straight before saying really stupid comments
Israel will drag the US into a proxy war on Iran just as it did in the case of Iraq. According to international sources, Israel is the third largest nuclear power with over 200 warheads and the means to deliver them beyond the Middle East as far as Russia and Northern Europe. This little country is the greatest threat to the world and not Iran, Pakistan, India or N. Korea. Israel has the capacity to instigate a nuclear attack anywhere in Europe and claim it was a terror act by Iran or some Islamic movement and mobilize the Jewish internationally controlled media to sound the drums of war against the Arabs and Iran. Zionist control of the US media, finance and politics and the ability to control any US President and administration should be the biggest cause of worry to the world.
TRUTH
@Walid – Ibn – Truth!!
Uh Huh. That's all very sensible. Fanatical muslims murder the innocent in Israel Europe and the US and the jews are the problem. You need your head examined.
Walid
Well I’m sad to say that if the influential Muslims are as smart as the Jews there won’t be Palestinians living in refuge camps and be... You know as much as I know that the Ayatollahs and most of the Muslim clergymen preach to hate the Jews. So what you expect of them to surrender to the Muslims to be slaughtered. The Muslim majorities are peaceful people, but they have no control of their nation’s destinies. Have you forget already the suicides massive killing in Iraq between the Shiites and the Sunnis. They blew up mosques for God sake and you want the Jews to trust them. I won’t. Read the novel ‘Twins in Arms’ and you would probably call me an infidel and a trader.
Walid, I am a white American and I agree with you fully. Jews are constantly playing the victims with their Shoah revivals in order to keep everyone feeling guilty of what the Nazis did to them over 70 years ago, and this in order to mask the horrors of the Palestininan occupation. They are very cunning but it's going to backfire sooner or later. I don't see the American Indians or the Australian Aborigene trying to recover their ancestral lands. And I don't see the Western world trying to help them in the way they are helping the Jews occupy (illegally) the land they claim as theirs. The Western nations that back Israel are just as guily of religious fanaticism as the religious zealots on the other side. Add to that the oil interests and the bs about exporting democracy to the Middle-East (except to Saudi Arabia), and we have there the hypocritical face of the so-called "Western values". In the meantime, the Chinese are just watching and laughing at this Judeo-Christian-Muslim saga unfold while they take over the world quietly. Good for them, they are smarter than us.
Amen to that. Israel is the worst country in the world. It is an apartheid state and needs to be dealt with accordingly. I pray I live to see the demise of this rogue, land grabbing, murderous state. These Khazars should be sent back to Europe with Netanyahu. IRAN is not a threat with Nuclear weapons. Netanyahu perpetrates a lie to send the U.S. into another war, and our government is stupid enough to go. Damn these frigging isreali liars.
What TOTAL NONSENSE! There isn't a SINGLE Western democracy that is afraid Israel. In fact, Israel is partnered with a slew of European nations with exports to many, many of them of all kinds of Israeli goods. Israel is a high-tech powerhouse that led the G8 in growth last year. A leader in solar technology, medical technology, pharmaceuticals, computer technology and defence technology (thanks to Islamic Terror). The ONY nation afraid of Israel is....Iran. And no wonder. Iran is determined to be THE MAJOR controller of the Middle East. But Israel is stronger and smarter and given their Koranic mandate, they are obsessed with killing Jews. They collaborated with the Nazis during WW2 and Hitler even had Muslim units, promising them land. I don't know of ANYONE who stays up at night worried about Israeli nuclear weapons...anymore than I worry about those of France or Britain..........NONE! In a mere 63 years, Israel has created an EXTRAORDINARY democracy, with one of the highest percentage of college graduates per capita in the world. It has first-rate Universities/Research centers partnered with some of the Top Universities in the world and has produced MORE Nobel Prize winners within 63 years than the ENTIRE HUGE POPULATION OF THE Islamic world since 1911 (20% of the world population). ISRAEL INVENTS AND CREATES and the entire world owes it a debt for its output that benefits everyone.
Perfect Truth. What is democracy ? Israel has gathered all who agree with him and kills anybody else ! who called this democracy ? Democracy is for humanity , it is not form "Smart" . I should admit Jews are smarter than average human being but it does not give them the right to come somewhere occupy , kill and create war . IT IS NATZI.
You are very correct in your reasoning. The epicenter of threats to world peace is Israel and American Jews who have had control of Congress for more than 30 years. The power of this group was demonstrated in the latest meeting of the AIPAC, where they attempted to push the U.S. into another Middle East war to assure Israeli hegemony. The U.S. should dissociate itself from these people who have proven to be more loyal to themselves than to the U.S. These are "chutzpah" people!
... The calls for war with Iran have been going on for at least 20 years now. However, the question is who wants another Iraq war, but then worse? With an Iran with more then 78 million people, who will find a cohesiveness when attacked which Iraq could only dream of.
Nuke weapon. Existential. War on Iran. Israel. As if these Western sound bites of ignorance and political narrative represent the leading power in the US. Fact is, conventional military power is not all cut out as many make us believe. But thinking it is, is the greatest dangerous for Israel which is surrounded by more then 400 million Muslim guerrilla fighters if Iran is attacked.
Fact is also, of all terrorist suicide bombings of the last decade, not one was an Iranian. If Iran was so eager to use nuclear weapons against Israel, it could have easily bought nuclear material on the black market, in the exact same way some now say Iran will sell nuclear material on the black market. More over Iran has not waged war on any country as of yet, unless it was attacked first. So please spare us all the war mongering, and be intelligent instead of ignorant.
I have to say that Fareed Zakaria's analysis is excellent and very reasonable, perhaps no for the hawks like Natanyahu from a foreign country that wants to involve our nation in a war that they ( Israe}l should take care themselves, I* think Natanyahu is a very dangerous man for the world..
Are the most of you stuck in a fever dream of hallucinations? Some are not but most of you are idiots and you'll figure that out when it's tool late of course. Iran cannot have nuclear weapons! Period! This Iranian gov still arrests people for "invoking spirits" when there was a protest against an iranian military officials video. Invoking spirits? Really? And they are trying to be a nuclear power who also states that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth? We need to neutralize Iran and to be honest , US should take over all of the middle east and bring these ignorant people into the 21st century. Muslims are the thorn in the side of a peaceful and civilized earth. We will never achieve peace on earth with idiotic Muslims running around like zombies preaching and following Islam.
Jerry, stop that typical zionist jew rhetoric, we are not impressed by your insults, they just show the type of person you are. I know another bunch of idiots who invoke gods at official government meetings (and cheated to get elected to power in 2000). Sounds familiar?
Rhoda Kadalie
I disagree with you 100%, but you probably agree with me on my novel 'Twins in Arm.' Different opinions is what make our ation so special.
Rhoda, I suggest you take Fareeds weekly quiz.
Your definition of an Obama lover is anyone who doesn't think the same way that you do about everything? I would venture to guess that Fareed knows a bit more about foreign affairs than you do.
you wasted 5 lines just to express your hate and no rationale to support a bloody war based on super UNCERTAIN ESTIMATES, and yet annoyed by valid historical points which you call "partiality under the guise of debate". What do you see in the mirror the day after thousands are dead and yet there is no piece of evidence to prove that Iran was after nuking Qods.
Maybe you should read the article again. English, after all, seems to be something other than your first language.
Thank God for this journalist; otherwise we'd be shipping off more poor kids to Iran while American Jewish kids would be going off to college and Wall Street. Please, publish more articles like this to balance all the stupid saber rattling. Remember, going to war because of the non-existance of WMS can cost many thousand of lives, and a bankrupt economy. Remember.
So you are saying that Obama is pro-Iran? I guess if you don't want to rush into war that makes you pro-Iran. Right?
First; consider the number of innocent CIVILIAN women & children killed by Israel in the past thirty years & compare equivalent killings by Iran, then decide which country is more "rational".
It is absurd to think that Iran will use nuclear weapons against Israel, as , the effects of such lunacy will result in causalities in Lebanon ( Hezbollah) , Jordan, Syria & to the Palestinians; people who are supportive of Iran.
Fareed's article is very reasonable & balanced. Nuclear balance between countries prevents wars.
Israel has caused more wars than any other country in the region, this wouldn't have happened if Egypt , Iran et al. had nuclear capability.
Karajan, Are you a complete idiot? How many people have the Israelis killed in the past thirty years? count them. Now, How mnay people were killed by Iran in the Iran Iraq war? A million (United Nations); how many people in Syria? 10,000 just in the past few months and tens of thousands of others by Assad and his psychotic dad (Human Rights Watch); how many people in Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon, and other Moslem countries? you really want Iran to have a nuclear weapon? Are you sure? 12 million Jews have won 140 Nobel prizes. 1.3 billion moslems have won 6. Count that too. And ask yourself, why? I'll give you one good reason: because idiots like you are hell bent on destruction, not creation. That's why. Now go help Iran and Syria and Libya and Hezbollah and Hamas build nuclear weapons. Destruction is a lot easier than creation, moron.
Karajan, Are you a complete idiot? How many people have the Israelis killed in the past thirty years? count them. Now, How mnay people were killed by Iran in the Iran Iraq war? A million (United Nations); how many people in Syria? 10,000 just in the past few months and tens of thousands of others by Assad and his psychotic dad (Human Rights Watch); how many people in Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon, and other Moslem countries? you really want Iran to have a nuclear weapon? Are you sure? 12 million Jews have won 140 Nobel prizes. 1.3 billion moslems have won 6. Count that too. And ask yourself, why? I'll give you one good reason: because idiots like you are hell bent on destruction, not creation. That's why. Now go help Iran and Syria and Libya and Hezbollah and Hamas build nuclear weapons. Destruction is a lot easier than creation.
god bless everybody,
not just one people or country, we're all humans, therefore lets show humanity
Listen salad nicoise, stop trying to humanize the hell's rejects you hang with.
I'm so tired of these pointless opinion pieces. What ever happened to who, what, when, where and why? We are reading and seeing a little brown man trying to manipulate the future. When we should be looking at facts and acting on them. I don't need this person telling me his opinion, I need somebody to uncover the truth, report factually and reserve his opinion and his beliefs for himself.
We can not stand to go to War with Iran or any country for that matter. We have problems here that need to be resolved and with a congress that approaches No as a primary to anything that will help Americans. They would would rather push for War and Spend our tax dollars. But lets not pay the soldiers that fight, lets hold it it off because We can not see past race of the President. Scandalous ways of thinking, But hey this is an Opinion
How come when Fareed says what u like, you support him, but when he says what you don't agree with, you know want him looked at... So freedom of expression is not allowed in your world. Give people chance to debate and not "kill" someone that has a different opinion from yours
Israel having a nuclear bomb is not the same thing as Iran having a nuclear bomb. It's the same logic that tells us children should not play with scissors and inner city gangs should not have access to automatic weapons. It doesn't mean they're suicidal. It just means they are not mature and – or they are willling to kill a lot more civilians than we're willing to stomach. Al Qaeda also was a rational actor. But look what they did. Iran is a rational actor. But look what that Islamic cult has done over the past three decades. and look at Israel. I don't think anyone would argue that nnuclear bombs in the hands of those two is the same thing. But if you do, then you're an idiot too. As was demonstrated by the Iran – Iraq war, the wars in Africa, the recent civil war in Syria, and countless other struggles involving Moslem countries, human life is of relatively no value. That is not the case in Israel. So one nuclear bomb falling on Israel is devastating. While the same is not true from the perspective of Moslems. They just don't seem to care about their own people. Why would we assume that they will act rationally toward Jews and Christians. If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, we're all screwed. Good luck to the Israelis and Americans who are risking their lives stopping them, for the rest of us.
Islamic Government of Iran/Mullah wanted to get the control of region, not only Israel, They wanted most! They think that they are the leader of the world! Khameniie the supreme leader is Ben Laden number 2.
We grew a custom to the Israeli aggressions whenever the time for U.S. elections. As always, a U.S. president must show his loyalty and pledge the allegiance to AIPAC and to keep his mouth shut while Israelis using our F-16 to massacre humanity. I thought these are the same people who despised Hitler because he was doing the same thing to them! As our ex-president Jimmy Carter made it clear in his book, our government is elected by AIPAC and a U.S. president/Congress must pledge allegiance to the Israeli flag instead of America. Our economy is depilated for the sake of Israel and its wars. My son joint the army to fight for America not Israel and he already promised me that he will not fight in Iran and die in Iran for the sake of Israel. Every U.S. president candidate must promise and show his loyalty to Israel and his willingness to attack other countries on behalf of illegitimate country like Israel. Israel is claiming to be a peace loving nation at the same time occupying Palestine and massacring the Palestinians since Israel conception in 1948. History is very clear that there was nothing called Israel until England helped the Jewish people to take over Palestine. You can read the "Balfour Declaration" by the prime minister of England at that time Arthur James Balfour promising a Jewish homeland in Palestine before Israel existence which will shed some light on Israel love for wars.
This government is a military dictatorship like communist governments that put all the democracy and human right supporter in the jail and make tension in the region to buy time and make its dirty life longer. With making atomic bomb is looking for occupying or controlling all the region countries like Bahrain, Iraq, Afghanistan and....it's a poison for democracy.
Rhoda,
But in this case, do you agree with what is being said in this article? Set aside the bias claim for a moment and look at the situation from a higher level.
I think the biggest concern is whether Iran would sell their nuke technology to their proxy terrorist friends. It is probably true that a nuclear Iran wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to deal with, but only if there were safeguards that their technologies and materials would stay in Iran.
While Zakaria is keeping you all busy waffling about Iran and Israel, Obama's NBational Defense Authorization Act came into effect om March 2nd [60 days after he signed it on Dec 31st 2011]
The Bill contains provisions that effectively abolish the United States Bill of Rights. It grants Dictatorial power to the President to order the Miliary arrests of US citizens on US soil, and to detain them for an indefinite period.
"Americans should fear the new detention law" warns Igor Birman – Soviet refugee
"Obama says the Bill breaks with Our Values but signs it anyway" – headline in 'The Atlantic'
This Bill gives ONE man absolute power – the PRESIDENT. And no-body on CNN or any other major network has MENTIONED IT. What is WRONG with Americans?
To avoid war in the Middle East we must first break the alien grip on the US, such as AIPAC the jewish lobby.
Correct. Israel doesn't run the world, just the United States.
Wrong answer, Absalom. As a sovereign nation-state with the absolute right to exist, Israel has an absolute right to defend itself and its interests whether any other nation-state likes it or not.
Old Soldier: based on that argument/logic (which I agree with), doesn't Iran have the right to develop not just nuclear weapons, but also chemical and biological?
Iran is an aggressor, is involved in every conflict in the Middle East, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, African countries with a conflict, you name it. They have a plan to become an empire and control the oil in the Middle East (and as a result in the world), with a nuke they can threaten Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, and don't forget, the Hamas and other groups who are getting weapons and money through the tunnels, will be free to attack Israel and feeling safe that Iran will threaten Israel not to respond. Why Zacaria does not talk about it?
Iran is an aggressor, is involved in every conflict in the Middle East, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, African countries with a conflict, you name it. They have a plan to become an empire and control the oil in the Middle East (and as a result in the world), with a nuke they can threaten Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, and don't forget, the Hamas and other groups who are getting weapons and money through the tunnels, will be free to attack Israel and feeling safe that Iran will threaten Israel not to respond. Why Zakaria does not talk about it?
Well 1965, ....If G_D is going to step in and take care of everything....What's the problem?
Yes indeed Israel runs this country and its politicians like slaves. They have to fight each other to please AIPAC before they are considered for office. AIPAC is the true White House and they veto anybody to any federal position who does not have a history of allegiance to Zionism. They are the nerves and arteries that sustain American life. Unless the 99% of Americans wake up to see that the 1 or 2% sucking their American blood and taking them down the drain, this country is doomed to become the sheep yard of the Zionist shepherd. In fact we have been for decades the workers who feed the "Happy Israelis". They even produce in Israel what is our main necessities and they control from Israel via Media and Hollywood our way of life. we may be already doomed.
Absalom
Yes. And you don't have to be born in U.S.A. to die for it and protect it. I wrote 'Twins in Arms' to show my love to this land. God bless the U.S.A.
Adam, you are right on the money, I couldn't have said it better. The AIPAC controls US foreign policy and punishes domestic politicians who dare speak againt zionism in Israel. I left the US to go live abroad so my kids do not get brainwashed by US-based media and Hollywood and today they make their own opinions of things and do not believe half of what comes from US-based media (especially Fox News) when it comes to international politics. In fact, thry themselves view the US as a zealot nation ready to go to war to defend the "chosen" people against all logic. A pre-emptive war against Iran, a nation that has not broken any international law (contrary to the US launching an illegal war against Irak) would assure a polarisation fo world opinion against US and Israel and increased risk of reprisal to these two countries for long year to come.
Are you a closet jhadist?
Perfect. No. Born and raised in the Southern United States. In the Deep South. Raised in a Southern Baptist Church. Studied the Bible and know more of it than most loud, sweaty preachers. My father was a great supporter of the Israeli cause and the Jewish people in general. My father was one of the first American soldiers to walk into Dachau and witness the ruination of those prisoners by the Nazis. He told stories of what he saw, and I listened, and I remember. No not closeted by any means, and neither are millions of Americans just like me what ache for justice and peace. Soon you will be the minority if you already are not, and our blood and worry will be spent on things better than standing on the necks of every country we fear for no good reason. Even as a child I knew that America's policy in the middle east should be framed in one simple question: What is best for the people who live in the Middle East. This in the end, will be best for for US, and our children.
When you have the ONE TRUE LIVING G_D on your side, it doesn't matter whether they have one bomb or a million. In the Holy Bible, it has already been prophesied that PERSIA will attack Israel and that G-D almighty, will defend Israel. Now, are YOU READY FOR THAT??!!
are you a bottle of ketchup??
Absalom -–Liar, liar, liar pants on fire. hehehe...
Dick Nixon
There was a rumor while back published in England that Ahmadinejad’s ancestors were Jewish. I would love to have his DNA to check out what brand of ketchups he is.
H57, are you a closet moron? or maybe a closet redneck? or even a closet high-school dropout? or a clost white trash?
Absolutely dum, you are full of sheep shiet.
Don't forget, Israel is the one true democracy in the region. Turkey might qualify today, which is another good point: they are both our allies. As such, you stand with them, you side with them against others. Would you rather we turn our backs on our allies?
China and Russia not true democracy, can US think of acting against them ever, I guess not.
Turkey will be qualified, with another president, who is more neutral, the current is causing provocations against Israel to gain popularity in the Muslim world.
However, is Israel really an ally as you suggest? It seems to be we (USA) are being used by an extremely conservative government with a very powerful lobby in this country. The Jewish vote means a great deal to our politicians.
Have they really contributed in some way to US? More than other countries?
They are Arms Merchants....Is that good? Seems hypocritical in some way.
"A true democracy".....Maybe, but they are certainly not of one consensus.
Polls in this country suggest a majority of Americans do not support war with Iran.Slightly lower IF Israel is attacked. However a preemptive strike is different.
What and If anything should be done about the Iranian Nuke Question should not be decided by a conservative majority in the Israel Knesett
I'm not at all for turning our back on any ally.
I am however, in full support of giving them a dope-slap upside the head when they do/say stupid things.
"alien grip" really? And Zakaria is right here:
" But India and Pakistan went to war three times in 30 years before they had nuclear weapons. Since they went nuclear, they have actually been restrained and have not fought a full-scale war in 40 years.
It's actually a case that shows the stabilizing, not destabilizing, effects of nuclear deterrence."
Yes! It is!
Just measure the amount of time given to the anti-Israel pundits you favour versus the two American pundits. That alone illustrates the bias and Fareed's uselessness in Chairing fairly and squarely.
We need more anti-Israel pundits to educate our politicians who are licking the backs of Israel to get support from the Jews community. America does not have to act as slaves of Israel supporting all their arrogant moves. They treat Palastine people like slaves, rob their lands and we who talk about human rights big way has nothing to say about it. American people are not all jews and we must stand together to force our politicians to re-evaluate this love affair with Israel.
Sam, I won't argue that Israel has treated the Palestinians poorly; too often, they have. But Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt could have done better, too. None of those nations will allow the Palestinians to become citizens, thus they perpetuate the problem. Israel took the West bank and Golan Heights from Jordan and Syria, respectively, after those nations attacked Israel.....
Please Sam, let us not equate Jews with Israel. There are many thinking Jews who do not toe the Israeli line about Palestine and Palestinians. If you think Israel is wrong, by all means criticize Isreal, but not all Jews.
@Rhoda.........truly your place is in the Kitchen and not this forum! c'mon choo off to the kitchen and get dinner ready!!
Someone should explain to Mr. Zacaria that avoiding another conventional war in the Middle East by allowing Iran to develop nuclear weapons is a bad solution as it will inevitably lead to a NUCLEAR war in the Middle East.
Oh stop it. Islam is a religion of peace... didn't you get the memo?
Umm, no one has ever said that we should let Iran develop nuclear weapons. For one they are years away from developing a nuke so if we can try sanctions, and diplomancy why not let war be a last resort. if Israel decides to go to war before exhausting all efforts I feel they do have a right to defend themselves. However, I don't agree that we should support them in any decision they make. Especially if we don't know for sure if that they are trying to develop a weapon.
The last statement made by China and Russia on this issue was along the lines of "Oh yeah, you just try it buddy!" So the situation really, really sucks large! And none of us obviously like any of it! But given the choice, I'd take mass Exodus over mass Extermination or Extinction any day.
@RZ ........Good Talk!!!
Iran will be the last country that these crooked nose Zionist pigs ever attacked,mark my words.
@Patrick A. – "crooked nose Zionist pigs?" That's kind of racist... kind of discredits your opinion.
What do you expect from a racist?
I agree. Such racism is ugly, and hypocritic of those who condemn racism against Middle Easterners.
Isn't that the truth!
DanBun – whose side are you on? You are pretending to be fence sitting.
What are you going to do about it? You can't do s** and it will happen wether you like it or not.
The sad part is that America has become a slave of Israel and dancing to their drum beat by violating every principle that founded this country. Our founding father would outright reject our foriegn policy if alive. This is a pathetic situation that we the people let influiencial Jews community in this country to control our politicians to act this way. In this case, let Israel do what they want. As an American we need to stay away. This is going to be bad for our economy too. Let the arrogance of jews burn them alive in going to an unnecessary war.
Historically, we have benefitted from out Israeli contacts. Since the 1950's, we obtained copies of most Soviet weapons systems, captured by Israel from the Arabs. This granted us a huge advantage by continuously having access to some of the Soviet's best equipment (tanks and planes, especially).
it's not about being a "slave" to israel.
It's about having a staunch ally in the middle east to be used as needed to help the oil flow.
if the middle east did not have oil, we would not be there....
oh...I see.
it's "Patrick A*s*ole"!
Sorry for brother ignorance. we try control him but he no take his pills today.
"Patrick A."–where "A" stands for "Аѕѕhоlе."
Avoid? That's a good idea, but that doesn't mean we should just let Iran have nuclear reactors and soon after nuclear weapons. It's bad enough we've had India and Pakistan on the brink of a nuclear conflict, you want to add an even more volatile situation like Iran and Israel both having nuclear weapons? The prime minister of Iran has already publicly attempted to minimize the Jewish Holocaust and made the suggestion that Europe give up some land so that the Israeli's have a homeland far away. Who knows what they are saying and thinking behind closed doors if that is what they are saying publicly. Yes avoid war, but just as importantly avoid Iran getting nuclear reactors.
Do you really think Israel, or even the USA, can surgically strike Iran and destroy all of their nuclear facilities? For how long? A few years? And since we have thus attacked them, are they right to attack us? Would their attack be a justified act of retaliation? You know if we attack them, civilians will be killed too. This is an ugly Pandora's Box you are advocating....
In the last few 'wars', the U.S. has been docile. We held back- a lot. Iran may be big, but they will most likely find out they are just too big for their britches. Yes, I do believe we could entirely wipe out Irans' WHOLE military. The question is will we do it in the nicey nice politically correct way we have been using or will we actually break out some of our bigger more high-tech weapons to really level them. I am not talking about Nukes. The world perceived us as weak when our last 'Shock and Awe' campaign fell kinda flat. It won't be that way this time and it won't be because Israel is controlling us. Iran has been our enemy for decades and a constant source of terrorism throughout the world. Their time is up.
Fear monger.
I don't know if they can surgically strike and take out their reactors, but that is not my point. You sound like you want to just give up and put the Middle East in a precarious place. Whether it be a military or non-military solution, something *effective* has to be done to prevent them from getting the reactors and eventually nuclear weapons. They have a large solar energy plant – let them make more of those instead.The problem is that sanctions don't appear to be working, so if you have any other ideas we'd all be glad to hear them.
I agree 100% with you, Fareed, it's about time a voice of reason should be heard. We saw the same frenzy about Iraq, until the truth finally surfaced when it was too late. Keep reminding Americans that while we remember 1979, Iranians remember 1953, and neither is a rationale for perpetuating the current nonsensical war of words, and even less for a real war.
You can move to Iran with him and have a good time.
What are you so afaraid of? You want to silence those you don't agree with?
DanBun – the only ones who want to silene us are the Arab fear mongers like you. As if, as if, free speach is something your tribe knows anything about.
Justice, how nice of you to decide who can move where, and you are against Iran because it's a dictatorship, right?
Maybe you should move, anywhere will be fine.
CNN needs to fire Zakaria Pro-islamist anti-american ba*****
Not at all. I like the fact that CNN has these different points of view. If you want mono-politics, watch FOX News.
Sure Fareed needs to be fired. If only the US media would fire all the Jewish Israel-Firster journalists.
Are you implying that differing opinions are allowed in the Arab world?
The media has played the American public with such propaganda to influence and stir the pot. Right now, as I see it, everyone is crying "Wolf!" regarding the possibility of Iran generating nuclear weapons. IF our so-called "elected officials" start running scared, Americans will be involved in yet another "conflict" with hardly any military resources or funding to support a armed response with or without proof of nuclear weapons. If the shoe were on the other foot, and we were simply trying to build nuclear power plants, and everyone else was saying we were developing weapons, would not our leaders be just as defensive? Our country does not need this now. We have our own household to take care of at the moment. Our citizens might ought to consider being a bit more objective, rather than immediately jump to unsupported conclusions, or take unnecessary actions.
Ignoring the deadly threat of nuclear Iran to the entire world will not make it disappear.
Like ignoring weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?
Iran has regional missiles, at best. And apparently, not very accurate. Then do not have ICBM technology. Thus, their ability to threaten the rest of the world is a bit extreme.
I appreciate your wit.
Another US citizen who shows that America is not fully lost to Zionism. This country fought many wars to come to be what it is:
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
What have we done to loose our prestige and become ourselves slaves to Zionism???? National interest is to protect and provide our citizens with the pursue of happiness. We are the worst country in the world in school shootings...Maybe we should invest the billions of dollars to save our children rather than sending them to Israel, Egypt, Jordan , Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indian etc...
If you can't see through the facade that the utlimate goal is nuclear weapons and not nuclear power, you're incredibly naive. With all the Iran military buildup in the Strait of Hormuz and the veiled threats that they can close it down, they are a severe threat to their oil producing neighbors and cutting the world's oil and natural gas supply in half, then blackmailing the world. Imagine if they had nuclear weapons in addition to that? Nevermind Israel, the arab nations nearby them don't want them to have nukes. Iran is 2nd in natural gas reserves, 4th in oil reserves and has low rainfall/abundant sunshine for solar power, so there is no legitimate reason for them to pursue nuclear energy. The countries that have nuclear reactors but not nuclear weapons (and there are some) do not have the abundant natural resources that Iran has.
Iran has as many legitimate reasons to produce nuclear power as Israel has them to have 300 nukes. So far the real threat to the region has been Israel since its inception and Iran has a legitimate right to build defenses against this perceived threat. It is Israel that is occupying Palestinian land illegally and not the other way around. Nukes are the best deterrent against any future aggression or occupation by Israel against its neighbors.
Why are pakistans nukes not questioned?
It hid bin laden.
It is supporting taliban which attacks american troops most of which is based in its own country.
Yet we are giving money to pakistan but threatening iran.
Threatening iran is not wrong but giving money to pakistan is.
Some experts say that pakistan was the country which helped iran in its nuclear ambition.
North Korea might have helped, too. But this ignores Iran's own nuclear abilities. They have long sent students overseas for education. Do that long enough and thre should be no surprise that they can now educate their own students. Not as well as Western Universities, but well enough.
It is guys from Western universities that destroyed the world economy, I pass on that type of education.
The same reason we don't question Indian nukes and delivery missiles which were gifted by South Koreans at the behest of USA. Quid Pro Quo....Dr. Watson !!! Kapiche???
I think you are out of your mind Fareed when you state that Iran should have nuclear power..
What would you expect from a guy named fareed. He's one f them.
His father is pro-islamist. Taking after him
He is a US citizen. From India, originally.
And you are an Iranian citizen born in a sandpit somewhere.
Did he go to the same madrasa as Obama ?
Well Justice, Surprise he is too educated for you and your rightwing buddies. How arrogant of him to make rationale statements that are in the best interest of the United States.
"Zakaria attended the Cathedral and John Connon School in Mumbai. He received a Bachelor of Arts from Yale University,[1] where he was president of the Yale Political Union, editor-in-chief of the Yale Political Monthly, a member of the Scroll and Key society, and a member of the Party of the Right. He later earned a Doctor of Philosophy in political science from Harvard University in 1993,[1] where he studied under Samuel P. Huntington and Stanley Hoffmann"
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Good points, now wait for the genuises out here to say his professors were "socialists" etc.
Which is it , socialists or jahadists? Oh well , I guess it doesn't matter we just don't like the man.
It doesn't matter where he studied. You can go to any university and still has islamist views and anti-american. Look at who Obama associated with! reverend wright!
Only fareed would argue that the world has nothing to fear by having a nuclear Iran. Fareed your motives are manipulative yet clear. Your show s nothing but a platform for Obama, and your Arab brothers.
You are being ignorant. He is NOT Arab. He is Indian, by descent. HUGE difference, even if they are both on the Asian continent.
Who you are is totally dependent on your current thought patterns.
Ala: true. But so much depends on your heritage, as well.
I might agree with you if the person is 18 years old and under. After that, no more excuses, you are who you are.
Michael, your prejudice shows through your ignorance of who the arabs are.
I wasn't sure they had conspiracy theorists in Canada but thanks for verifying the fact. You believe the democratically elected president of the US is on the side Iran. Very bright guy you are.
HOLD ON A SECOND, IS THAT YOU FAREED? I don't know your age but I grant you respect for taking the courage to spit some words of wisdom. Will you be fired by your employer or is it a reality that cannot be hidden anymore from the US citizens who are after all the ones paying for Israel's arrogance and wars? Did Netanyahu fail to persuade American leaders to steal American tax payers to finance a war with Iran? Does the current tax period trouble the US government to the extent they cannot venture in another war because after citizens are paid their tax returns, nothing will be left for Israel to take? WELL DONE FOR ONCE, FAREED!
You have to wonder what Israel's true endgame is. Peace or anything like it clearly works against their interests. If they can persuade Americans that all the muslim world is evil the the better for them. We fight, we send our children and fathers to war after war to die and come home wrecked, and all the while politicians like Lieberman and Gingrich race fatuously old and wasted for more of it. What if the billions and billions and billions were better spent and the lives lost and ruined on all sides were better cared for. And what if we tell our elected officials to stop throwing so much good away. Because we're damn tired of it. And for what. Does Israel think standing alone atop a pile of smoking rubble is worth all this? Certainly not.
You'r absolutely right!
The name you are borrowing is "Absolom" moron.
So you advocate ditching an ally? What does that say about us?
Ditching an ally is worth doing if it's a one-way relationship that costs us way more than reasonable. If we made allies of the rest of the Middle-East Israel would have to behave and shut up and there would be real peace in the region.
You make some acute points my friend around the idea of preventing war with Iran, however they seem to fizzle when you hear the cries of, " Death to America " and that Israel should cease to exist, people tend to do what they truly believe.
"people do what they believe". If the US was to invade or go to war with every country that says "death to America" the world would have ended long ago. How about we invade Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, etc? Threats and bullying are strategies of the weak. If some one wants to destroy another country why announce it and not just do it by surprise?
The US rightfully and wrongfully has many "enemies" it cannot live in perpetual war or resolve all the worlds problems.
It's time it has a more realistic idea of what it's limited interests are, the age of the global hegemon is over.
.. Fareed ... this says all.... He is one of them... which SHOULD immediately disqualify anything this paid pro-islam lackey has to say here at CNN.
Your ignorance and xenophobia should be enough to disregard anything you say. I wonder is you could pass a grade school geography class.
Fareed Zakaria cannot change the fact that Israel will bomb Iran. If he doesn't like it he should go back to india where he belongs.
so then Israel bombs India?
Israel cannot reach India (with planes, at least). Plus, India has a rather larger military (especially a navy that Israel cannot match). And, more importantly, these two nations ahve numerous ties in teh intelligence areas. Remember, a Jewish state and a Hindu state have one thing in common: they are in a region populated by Muslim states.
That would be an even match, India with million man professional army and one nuke for every 30000 Israelis, and a fail safe delivery system. However India and Israel are friends unless one of them misbehaves!
Justice, you are truly an idiot. Are you an American Indian? If not you should go back to where you or your unfortunate parents came from.
You mean an Indian American! Americans Indians home is USA.
Has Fareed said that he can do anything about it? What do you plan on doing? I guess not a whole lot.
What is wrong with a nuclear war in the middle east? Then the jews and the arabs wouldn't matter anymore.
Fallout would eventually reach the USA....
Only if we get involved.
Nuclear fallout, the physical kind. Doesn't matter if we're involved or not.
There is an additional argument that no one makes. If either Israel or Iran dropped a nuclear bomb, do you expect the radiation fall out to follow a geographical map? That is, if Israel drops a nuclear bomb on Iran do you think the radiation fall out would just stay in Iran? Do you think the countries around Iran are gping to accept such an action?
Additionally. what is the crieria for the global community to decide if a country can or cannot have a nuclear bomb? Because we like Israel we are OK if they have a nuclear bomb but because we do not lilke Iran they are not allowed to.
The current lack of debate about nuclear bombs and the rise in the price of oil is absurd. The current political discourse is even more absurd and I am sure makes the global community wonder why they would want to support any American political leader all of who lack a real world view.
2006 Israel rushed into a war with S. Lebanon and they paid a heavy price. Iran is not S.Lebanon.
They paid a heavy price because they bent over backwards to avoid civilian casualties. If the gloves come off, you're going to see what the Israeli military can really do.
We too paid a heavy price in Vietnam, because we did'nt take our gloves off. Military might is nothing unless you are willing to use it. And unjust use of that might can make you an International pariah!
THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE WORST SHOW AND ANCHOR ON CNN. WHAT A JOKE
Oh really Ron? What would be a good show? O'Reilly? Maybe you're not up to understanding the program.
Fareed, you have just asked the central questions in this debate: What about Israel's nuclear weapons? And, if nuclear weapons are such bad ideas, how come those who have the most are fighting the hardest to keep it away from the have-nots?
Until we clear up this hypocrisy, nothing will move. For Israel to be fighting like hell for others to do its dirty job by starting another war is silly. Only the silly will fall for that, especially one currently involved in two long wars. I think it's time to tell Israel that if it's itching for war, let it start and fight one.
Regardless, the nature of this debate should be to either allow the have-nots of nuclear weapons to get it for balance of power; or, to tell those who have it (namely, Israel) to give it up for nuclear-free Middle East.
That is a "pipe dream." Pacifism is among the surest paths to war.
Unfortunately, you are too often right here. But militarism is another quick way to war, as well. There must be a balance, and perhaps Teddy Roosevelt said it best: speak softly and carry a big stick. Just don't be in such a hurry to swing it.
Old Soldier, judging by your name you must love war. I just hope you're of the right age to still be a soldier. The US has not "won" a war since World War II. It's time to find a new career. I hope you're not supporting one of the three Republican "chicken hawks".
VERY DISTURBING ARTICLE AND INCITING AGAINST AMERICANS!
Shame to all that approved this to be publish !
Freedom of Press and Freedom of Expression. In this nation, we should not limit these thing because you find them uncomfortable. What you advocate is fascism.
Yes, DAn D,. Peace is very "inciting to the US"
Inciting what against Americans, Islamist pig.
Fareed, Please pick better guest – Kissinger? An old brain with old viewpoints on the Middle-East. War with Iran Is plain stupid. AAW
Waleed, Stupid in your Arabic slang is please do not bomb my moronic brothers–THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO.
Good thing none of you guys are me.
It is worth noting that Iran is almost surrounded by nations with nuclear weapons. Israel, Russia, Pakistan, India, and China all regionally (and Russia & Pakistan border Iran). Let's not forget, US and British submarines in the Indian Ocean also carry nuclear weapons. In such a situation, wouldn't we want nuclear weapons to deter attack, too?
Fareed, a disgraceful display of partisan, pro-Iran and anti-Israel sentiment. At least, as they say, your heart is on your sleeve as you try to claim moral equivalency between the Iranian regime and Israel.
If we were in the late 1930s, you would be saying something like "Herr Hitler's rhetoric shouldn't fool us into thinking he's not a rational actor – don't do a pre-emptive strike against the Nazis and above all don't be swayed by Jewish and Zionist warnings of Hitler's intentions..."
What a disgrace, Fareed. Shame on you and on CNN.
To argumentatively defend Iran: how often have they attacked their neighbors? When was the last time Iran launched planes or tanks or missiles against any of their bordering countries? Recall the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq started it.... Israel has, however attacked her neighbors (although more often has responded to attacks).
The point, brainless one, is that Iran is a sleaz bucket and they get others to do the dirty work for them, all the time claiming having clean hands.
Ala: appreciate the thoughtful and respectful "brainless one" comment. I won't argue that Iran hasn't helped out groups we don't like; they certainly have. But we also have done similar things throughout our history. Look at the OSS and CIA, for starters. We may think our actions justified, and perhaps they were. But those actions also proped up the Shah of Iran, and we pay for that even today....
Action-Reaction and then hindsight. If in fact, we had not made any mistakes in the past, would we be in a better place today? We think we would be in the same place because the enemy is still the same–brainless, war mongering, zealots, ...
Can you NAME a single country Israel attacked witout being attacked first?
If we played it straight then our enemies would laugh at us. Is that what you want?
Israel also attacked USA when it bombed, torpedoed and stafes USS Liberty killing scores of American soldiers serving USA thousands of miles away from home and their loved ones. Not to mention Jonathan Pollard , a traitor, spying for Israel under Isreali handlers.
Fareed has been anti-Israel & anti -Jewish his whole career...people are just starting to wake up..
& they say Jews own the media...bullcrap...Pro -Islamists own the media
Bobby, what planet are you from? I have listened to Fareed's show for years and read his books, there is absolutely nothing anti-Israel or anti-semitic about him or his shows. You've got some serious problems if you think otherwise. He simply doesn't toe the official American or Israel lines. The same is true of many Israelis. But maybe you think they're also biased.
David,
"Shame on you" why bring the Nazi's into the debate? Unless you mean that if someone differs with the official Israeli foreign policy they are Nazis.
I agree that war should not be taken off the table, but it should be the very last thing on the table. No one wins in a war, if lucky, one side may lose less, but there are no winners. If we reach the point of war, we have failed.
Could Iran's political leaders actually win either way, whether Israel (or the US) would attack Iran or not? In the first scenario they might still see it as a political victory, could they not?
To help solve this stand-off and bad behavior between Iran and Israel I propose a sound solution. Let's lobby these two 'leaders' to a face-to-face confrontation in a boxing ring. No words, kicking, biting or other things allowed except blows to the body and head with a gloved hand.
That way, the world can watch while these two arch enemies have at each other in a way that will keep the rest of the world safe and entertained in a humorous.
BTW, because it's my idea, I get all the revenue generated by this bout.
You, sir (or ma'am), are a genius. I will gladly have children with you.
If CNN was around in World War II, they'd give Quisling his own column.
Quisling was a staunch conservative, he'd be on FOX News.
Compared to the ultra conservative cultures of the middle east, even our conservatives are sandal wearing hippies.
Funny that you like to attack your own to help fundamentalist nutcases, Dan. It might be time for some soul searching on that one.
I am very disappointed in Zacharia. Of course there are two sides to the argument–Iran is irrational and Iran is rational. Farid, for whatever reason, decided the rational side is the better side. I disagree, as do most people.
Iran threw away tens of thoussands of Iranian lives in its war with Iraq, is responsible for the deaths of thousands of US soldiers, and is supporting terrorists who are tossing missiles at Israel. Its leaders make terrible threats against the world and specifically Israel.
Arguing against military action from the perspective that it is unnecessary, too risky or too expensive is pointless. War will always be utilized unless the global human community develops the consensus of a principled rejection of physical violence as an acceptable tool of change.
As outlandish as that may sound it is worth noting that already the US has a much lower threshold of tolerance for enemy collateral damage and loss of our own military personnel and resources.And the rest of the West has long been even more resistant leaning towards virtual pacificism.
The path to international peace is one of widespread personal freedom in the areas of politics, religion, thought and speech coupled with broad acceptance of interpersonal tolerance and respect of differences in the above.
Today one viral video is more powerful than any State in terms of creating change. Millions of hits on a youtube can have a greater effect than megatons of explosive power. The power of the pen is truly greater than that of the sword.
Zarkaria's premise is downright dangerous. Implying that Pakistan and India have not been at war recently because they both have atomic weaponry? The man's mental playground is as well grounded as a pre-1980 Mt. St. Helens. I'm a person who thinks it beneficial to have these forums of discussions on major news sites, but responding to the kind of absurdities Mr. Zarkaria has been presenting should not even be necessary.
"Getting Rid of Teabaggers" or "Palintwit's Final Solution"
1. Walmart advertises a big sale in the gun, knife and ammo department.
2. Walmart promises a free autographed copy of Sarah Palin's crosshairs poster with every weapon sold.
3. Walmart promises plenty of free trailer parking.
4. Hordes of teabaggers inundate Walmart. Birthers show up too.
5. Nuke Walmart. Simple.
This method of attracting baggers works equally well at a nascar track.
Thanks for the input, Stalin.
MR ZAKARIA IS ON PAYROLE OF IRANIAN GOVERNMENT, IT IS SAD TO HAVE HIM AT CNN.
Rather unrelated to the topic at hand, don't you think?
Always hypocritical to start name-calling fights. How childish.
Best article I've seen on CNN in a long time.
cnn now publishes this fruit cake's views on Iran at least twice a month...nothing changes for Zakaria he is still an ostrich. Now cnn on the other hand must have a lot of slow news days.
Zakaria, why you hate Israel that much, they just defending them-self , if any Muslim county have the power of Israel ..they would destroy the world .. including you . even you are a Muslim yourself .. but Islam is nothing but hateful believes .. stop the hypocrisy .. you and CNN ..I can't believe that people read your garbage
Defending what sir?
Israel has been attacked numerous times by many Muslim nations; I can undertsnad their paranoia. And Iran directly supports several groups that attack Israel continuously (Hamas, for one). Granted, Israel has not been directly attacked by Iran, but should they wait for that to happen?
Who dose support have you ever asked why?!
Kate err Fatmah, we support that is who does support. We are the sane people of the world.
You are plain Stupid.
I'm sure Fareed appreciates being informed by you that he is Muslim. What's next? He's Arab, too?
1953 till today, 49 yrs. of the Iranians having to worry about what will US do or say about every move they as a people choose. 49yrs is longer than Avg age in Iran. What would Iran be like today if the US had not preasured all its allies to try and ostracize Iran as a form of punishment for removing a US, Brit. dictator who was far worse than Saddam. or even Ruler of todays Syria.
Clearly, our support of the Shah was a mistake. In our defense, that was done in the 1970's mostly, and done largely to prevent the Soviet Union from having direct access to the Indian Ocean. India was already a friend of the USSR (granted, officially non-aligned, but much of India's weapon's purchases were from the Soviets), and we wanted to block direct Russia influence into the Middle East. They already had strong ties to Syria and Egypt at that point. So much of our support of teh Shah was simply a Cold War aspect.
Everything we are fighting still is because of cold-war tactics. The biggest problems, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, all directly caused by our want to control and confront Russia's influence. And we did so by the easiest way we could find: take down democratic opportunities and promote strong-handed dictators to force control.
I don't believe Americans can fix this problem until they realize that Americans are not perfect - because right now we view our government as perfect, but if it were ever anything more American, it would be to question your government's actions, past and future.
They like Kings and Shas and dictators in the US, UK and Europe. It is easier to control people by providing a strong security apparatus to protect the kings who in turn can silence their people and put in jail whom we want without impunity. We create, support and allow few pariahs who were never elected but rather chosen by us to run the undesirable countries we sometimes call allies. But here is a truth, Bush declared war against all of them and the Arab spring has come to kick the ones we protected (like Moubarak) so where is that part of the world is going to? Our Middle-east experts have lost their minds, everything is changing since the Iranian revolution of 1979 we failed to understand and the fall of Moubarak we do not understand and Yemen we do not understand and Syria we do not understand and Lebanon (Condi said New World Order) we do not understand and Iraq we did not understand and Afghanistan we do not understand... They know where are going but we DO NOT KNOW where WE ARE GOING!
The people that advocate a military solution to Iran are the same people who were all for the invasion of Iraq, thinking it would be quick and easy. If we do take military action, it will just create another nasty quagmire for us in the middle east, greatly increase the price of oil, and lead to another recession. Since it is likely we would damage, and not completely destroy their capability, it would take a full scale invasion to stop them from getting back to work on the bomb, with vengence in their heart.
Agreed. And remember, Iranians are Persians, not Arabs. They have a cultural difference and are rather better armed than Iraq was before we invaded them.
Iran has a large population, nearly one quarter of the USA's, more than Afghanistan and Iraq combined, with more wealth than both put together.
In fact, when you google photos of Tehran, any reasonable human being would shed a tear at the thought of bombing the city and its people, as a jab at their leaders, just as terrorists would kill our civilians as a jab at our government.
Not really. many of us did not support invading Iraq. I am do not supoort invasion of Iran, but Iran's rationality is totally based onits commitment to radical Islam. As long as its people permit this leadership, they share the consequences of Iran's promises to attack Irsrael and the West.
I tell you we need to go to war because we have brought prosperity and democracy to IRAQ Look at them now they have nice cars they eat at,RUTH CHRIS,They Eat CRABS and so much more this is why there are more reasons we should attack IRAN and protect the ISREAL unconditionally as we have for the last 50 years. I think U All get my point,,,,, and Farid is a Jihadist for sure as some of u say.
To the point.
You are funny
War is for the uncivilized. Since Iran has not started it, that would make Iran more civilized than yourself.
Fareed's premiss that "nuclear proliferation helps support world peace" might be the singular most dangerous statement ever made by a bias news reporter. He claims nuclear nations do not go to war with one another out of fear of retaliation (MAD). However, in nuclear age you one need ONE weapon to fall into the hands of an unstable government or worse unstable military commander and you have all you need for a human catastrophe. What if Cuba were do have been permitted to build soviet military nuclear weapons? Should the US place nuclear weapons in Kuwait or Saudi Arabia to counter Iran's nukes? A world armed with nuclear weapons is not one step closer to utopia, but rather a world one step closer to Armageddon!!!
Your concerns are indeed well-founded. But History HAS shown us that nuclear weapons do keep the peace. Simply put, the USA and USSR never fought each other. Mostly out of fear that whoever started losing might be tempted to use nuclear weapons. And he is right about Pakistani-India relations. I would add that india and China have not had any border disputes since they both obtained nukes.
BIG difference is the USA & USSR were never fighting over disputed land, economic resources or religious fanaticism
only political ideological differences. Interject nuclear weapons into the dispute over Israel's right to exist and the centuries old religious disputes and the its a recipe for nuclear war.
To think that anyone would leave Israel out in the cold to defend themselves alone only shows the blame the J E W S for everything mentality. Those types of people only want the Holocaust to happen again. We have no choice but to back Israel to the fullest.
As for this reporter he should be ashamed of his biased reporting and speculation. If C N N continues to take such a one sided view of the so called news it will continue to loose its credibility.
Fareed is against attacking Iran, period. So why would we listen to his advice on when an attack would be considered by him to be "too early".
Perhaps he is the voice of caution. We should not rush to war. It's too easy. Look how many of our boys and girls died, and are permanently affected, by our rash decision to attack/invade Iraq? War has its place, but should not be entered into so lightly and quickly. That said, we must make VERY clear that if the USA is threatened, we will not hesitate to defend ourselves. This is not an easy balance to maintain, of course.
Slimy fear monger. does Allah give you permission to lie?
Fareed, I see lots of bias in your Iran comments. So these days I dont watch your political side of the program. I understand your point., probably your life would be in danger if you say against Iran. So leave this Geo-Political analysis and limit your program to Economy.
the mullahs of iran are the greatest SATANS OF THEM ALL...........
Dr Zakaria's point is well-made. Although the containment of nuclear weapon capability is a wise policy, a greater need is to use caution in both words and action when dealing with the Middle East. Whether or not Iran really wants to make nuclear weapons is uncertain but She certainly wants to provoke some kind of reaction with rhetoric. One thing to remember: Iran does not have nuclear weapons and Israel (by all accounts) does. Israel has no friends in the region, and given Her history of using a "no alternative" doctrine in dealing with military conflicts that endanger Her survival, there exists the possibility of creating a crisis where the next atomic weapon that goes off in anger will be Israeli-made. The resultiing situation would be immeasureably tragic and infintely worse than the current state of affairs.
The problem with your theory about Israel is that the only reason Israel is not overrun is that A) they are supported/protected by the US and B) they have a handful of nukes. They know that were they to use a nuclear weapon without being invaded to the point of complete and utter annihilation as a nation, they would lose US support and protection. As soon as that handful of nukes ran out, they would be overrun in short order. That's a pretty big deterrent to them using those weapons.
I used to think Zakaria was a paid mouthpiece of the Obama administration. I'm starting to think he's moonlighting as a paid mouthpiece for the Iranian government too. I mean Fareed actually seems to be PROMOTING a nuclear Iran under the rationale that it would somehow be stabilizing factor for the Middle East.
Virtually no informed source believes that the "evidence is ambiguous" as to Iran's intentions. That's why the global community is piling on sanctions. Even worse is his attempt to downplay the looming threat by implying Iran might... MIGHT...have nukes "several years from now" when almost all Informed, rational experts are predicting several MONTHS from now.
Also, Fareed, if you are going to cite events and impacts as examples, then be honest about it. South Korea has not developed nukes for the sole reason that they already host nuclear missiles on their soil. The US military has many - both strategic and tactical - nuclear missiles based in South Korea. And of course North Korea's neighbors didn't start development of nuclear missiles in response! North Korea was already surrounded by nukes and developed theirs in response to that! Add to that the fact that as reported by the Wall Street Journal, the Saudi Arabia government has already declared that they were committed to acquiring nuclear weapons if Iran did and it's clear that you are playing very loose and free with the "truth".
One has to question why Fareed. Why all the contortions on your part to feed the public a bunch of dangerous misinformation???
Bravo! Well said.
Declare War, see how easy it is to declare it when you do it legally.
Consider signal-to-noise ratio.
It seems to me that Western Propaganda Machine have decided to stop here . Ha ha ha ha ha .Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has brushed aside the US and Israeli military threats against the Islamic Republic, saying their options can remain on the table until they rot.
It seems to me that Western Propaganda Machine have decided to stop here . Ha ha ha ha ha .Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has brushed aside the US and Israeli military threats against the Islamic Republic, saying their options can remain on the table until they rot. Press tv
I'd like someone to present some evidence that Iran has nuclear weapons... oh wait, still, both CIA and Israeli intelligence say Israel "could but hasn't" started making a Nuclear Weapon.
Here we are, ready to bomb more cities due to the petrodollar being in trouble, and we sit on our own undrilled lands.
Sarcastically can't wait to sit and watch CNN while we bomb Tehran, forgetting that millions of innocent women and children are listening to this outside their windows.
I'm all for more domestic drilling, but why would that lower gas prices? Some facts:
- US gasoline consumption is at 15 year lows.
- Gasoline exports FROM the US are at RECORD highs
- US oil production is higher now than anytime in the last 6 years.
- Multiple US refineries have been closed due to lack of gas demand.
So, I would suggest to you that even if we had more US production, it would be exported as refined product (like gasoline), since that's the most profitable outcome for the oil companies.
The "rational actors" of Iran have repeatedly stated that they would wipe Israel off of the map and have denied the holocaust. Is this really rational thinking?
Very little rational thought takes place in the Middle East.
Actually this statement is not true. Iran never said it would "wipe Israel off the face of the earth." It said like the regimes of Saddam Hussein and the Soviet Union, [one day] the Zionist regime will pass from the pages of time. The wipe off the earth thing came from our own media in the states who were paraphrasing using their own language. Not condoning the statement, just correcting a frequently misquoted saying that is far more dangerous than what was said.
Great Idea unless of course they get the BOMB! Then it would have been the stupidest idea of the century.
Fareed used to be somewhat ok once. Now he is nothing else but Muslim Agenda rep on CNN.he is clearly anti Israeli – manipulating facts again and again. And what about his anti ADL remarks? Anyways I cant watch his show anymore.
It would take just one tanker being hit by a missile in the Straight to send oil to $200.
Unfortunately, since oil is the most precious commodity on Earth, war with Iran is inevitable.
Great picture of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thumbing his nose at the world! (appearances count)
Gee. Do you think China will lend us the money to do this?
I wish I could live on a different planet while you take out this one.
Idiots.
Zarkaria
"Before we set out on a path to another Middle East war, let's remember some facts. First, Iran does not have nuclear weapons and the evidence is ambiguous – genuinely unclear – as to whether it has decided to make them.
But what if Iran did manage to develop a couple of crude nukes several years from now?"
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Uh, Fareed – I think that the goal is to PREVENT Iran from ever getting its terrorist bllod stained hands on a nuke.
So what if Iran developes a couple of crude nukes? Are you really that stupid Zarkaria? So what....goodness. If you are killed by a "crude" nuke, guess what Fareed, you are dead. Now its the "they will only develop a crude nuke argument. Right.
I can only conclude that Zarkaria and CNN are proxies for CAIR and the Iranian government.
Decidedly anti Semitic.
You are "decidely not brilliant". Why bring anti-semitic into it? Are you in favor of invading or bombing Pakistan, North Korea or Russia (which has terrorist blood on their hands)? And if not, why not? Oh , I forgot to mention China. Now let's see which countries can the US let slip off the radar for future bombing? Yes, I must be anti-American. The world belongs to US and we decide who can and not have nuclear weapons.
On whose side Zakaria is? He disregards and twists facts to suit his almost pro-islamist ideology. Why don't CNN hire Al-Kaida to hear strait from the horse's mouth rather than have someone disguised as a commentator
This is what Maine & GOP members are crying for & was done by Mr.G.W.Bush at the behest of WA WA. Every attack has an objective & strategy with concrete results. If results are hazy & more destructive its plan needs revision & redoing to achieve objectives. Nobody can determine results of a tornado except devastation & peace for some time but not wailing & weeping on losses. Every country needs culture study & Iran has proved different unlike own history. Shah was over thrown in favor of religious rule of preference. Now seeing theocratic exploitation, next younger generation appreciate democratic model with liberty & freedom from all extremes. It has to waited & watched for more time as it is yet be seen what Abduljenajad says & practices. All histories are evolution due to changing behavior & expectation of leaders & people as human behavior is not certain & stable.
The reality of Irans domestic and international policy towards every other nation from trade to Cultural Exchange programs was normal but it was the far right militant religious fanatics, Christian and Jewish, begining with Regans term refused to renew Diplowatic Relations. After a failed military rescue Iran tried through Canadian Embdasy in Iran to negotiate hostage release but our hawks said no. Instead Hawks held up release and went through secret route using Isreal as middle man. When Iran agreed to Release hortages after Regan sworn in and later arms for Iran/ Contra Scandle they would open full Diplomatic Recognition of Khomenis ?? government. Hawks lied then just as they do today.
You should check the fact before you blame far right. it all started with Jimmy Carter.
This man who is employed by CNN is making an argument that Iran should be allowed to gain nuclear weapons yet the United States has deemed Iran a terrorist state and supporter of terrorism. Did not Iranian men attempt to kill Israeli diplomats in Thailand just last month? Hezzbolah is a terrorist organization that uses suicide bombings and bombings of innocents women and children. Iran is radical and they are run by fanatics. The leaders of Iran are equal to Hitler in what they want to achieve. Does the world need to have a world war for some third world country that seeks to be known as the greatest terrorist nation?
This author is islamic and it shows clear as day. He is with little concern for what Americans think of him saying he supports Iran. He is embolden by barack obama in the White House. He sees obama with no spine to stand up for America and our own interest but to support islamic goals worldwide. If you dont understand then read the quran and hadith. Learn about islam and educate yourself about what is written in their faith guide.
I have a simple question about all this discussion: If Israel decide unilaterally to attack Iran based on their own need for security- even having nuclear weapons exclusively in the Middle East- why the US has to jumpo into war with them? It is not a mature decision of a country so be it but doing alone. It is your mess so, you deal with it. It is like a father fixing the disaster created by an spoiled child. Israel can do whatever they consider is necessary for their safety but has no right to pull the US with them. They have to think and act like adults not spoiled teenagers.
Let us bomb every country on the planet and then bomb ourselves.
No human beings....no problems anymore !
Now there is a logical person. Unfortunately, Awahd, I am not interested in the Allah fallacies.
The root of evil in the Middle East rest in the claim of Abram of Ur,Sumer that his god ordered him to invade and occupy Canaan killing, wounding and displacing the Canaanites. But then the New Testament of Jesus and the Recitation of Muhammad made the same claim superceding the claim of Moses and the Old Testament.
The base of evil in Holy Land stems from the destruction of the Temple, the Crusades,the Inquistion,pogroms,the Ottoman Empire,the British Empire, the Holocaust and the American Empire.
Iran has fallen to whim of the British/American empires losing a democratic government,having the tyrant dictator Shah imposed on them, encouraging Iraq's war against Iran, shooting down a civilian Iranian plane and the invasion and occupation of Iran's neighbors Iraq and Afghanistan.
Israel is a theocratic colonial apartheid state sponsor of terrorism with nuclear weapons. Israeli's who are not Jews(25%) are second class citizens. Palestinians under occupation(4 million) are in the position of the American colonists under British rule.
Neither a Jewish state of Israel nor an Arab state of Palestine would be a liberal secular democracy in accord with American values or interests. Zionism and Islamism are morally equivalent but neither reflect Americanism.
America has made the Iranians reasonably fearful and Israel unreasonably arrogant. Iran has more than twice as many people as Iraq and Afghanistan combined. The people have more education and women participate in the economy.
Iran needs to be cleansed of its evil influences.. heat will do that.. lots and lots of it. A nuke blast starts with a brilliant white flash of light.. let there be light. Let it shine on Tehran.. downtown would be nice.
My views tend to align with Fareed's in most cases. In this case however, I do think he underestimates the different rules by which religous fanascists play. They are wired differently. These are people who support suicide bombings and cloak the horrific acts in some twisted interpretation of the Quran. It's naive i think to assume they would think twice about starting a nuclear war if at any point they felt it is Allah's will to let all hell break loose as a means of protecting Islam. All it would take is one fatwa from the Ayotollah.
Why not expand the concept of the European Union and invite Iran to join?
LOL
It is not in American interests to go to war with Iran on Israel's request.
* If Israel could do it it alone, it may, but let this be a war between Israel and Iran, with all other players staying away. In
reality, Israel is not very threatened, and it is just convenient if the US damages Iran.
* Drawing the US into a war with Iran is no different than having drawn the US into the war with Iraq. We know the results.
* The Iraq war helped Israel, but hurt the US. It cost US lives, US $ and the US reputation of being fair. The real problem was in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and we are dealing with that now, 10 years later.
* Iran does not pose a threat to the US, nor any western nation. The argument that Israel makes is weak, and only serves to extend the sense of victim hood that is now gotten old given how strong Israel is. It is good to have a strong Israel, and we are happy for it. But, to forget that, and baby it more, is irresponsible. The world does not
agree with us as we continue to coddle Israel.
* The Israel lobby in the US is strong, and wields tremendous influence especially through the media. But, at the end of the day, we ought to think of the US, our people, and our credibility in the world.
* Being pushed into a war with Iran, will hurt the US, give Israel a temporary sense of victory, but in the long run hurt Israel and play into Iran's hands.
I support the bombing of Iran.
Let just wait until after the election so you can protect Obama's foreign policy.
Hey FRED - what planet do you live on? North Korea is paranoid to be sure, but they're not populated by demented, suicidal maniacs such as the muslims in the middle east. Get a grip.
The "noisome devil worshipper Iran" must fall upon the devil who Iran worships in perdition. Free the Iranians.
Sure thing buddy.
"Israel has already discounted the proposed new talks. "
YES, ONLY IF IRAN USES IT TO BUY TIME WHILE COVERTLY CARRYING ON WITH THIER WEAPONS PROG.
"But would a country that has labored for decades to pursue a nuclear program and suffered huge sanctions and costs to do so then turn around and give away the fruits of its efforts to a gang of militants?" IN A HEART BEAT! Iran would give nukes to anybody who said they would be used against Israel or America...and that you can take to the bank! Once a nuke is used against Israel all evidence to trace it would evaporate in the explosion, and Iran would claim they had nothing to do with it. They want all Jews killed, and a nuke would be a "good start" as far as Iran is concerned.
Israhell will not attack Iran because all Ishraell is capable of doing is killing innocent Palestinian women and children, any kind of real resistance and they get thier asses kicked like the last time they tried to use force. The slaughter of people who only want thier land back has got to stop. The United Nations and the world must demand an end to this Murdering by Israhell. It is not Israhell's land to beging with and they need to give it back to its rightful owners, the Palestinians.
Looking at all we know, Iran is clearly heading towards nuclear weapons. Its hard to see any other path for them. There needs to be a timetable "line in the sand" that the world needs to put to this regime. Iran is at this line, and it must not be allowed to cross it. Their lack of cooperation and stalling just further reinforces this. The World must act together on Iran, not just Israel or the U.S. War should always be the last resort, but it seems we have reached the point where action must be taken. Iran cannot be allowed to continue on their path towards nuclear weapons. A nuclear armed Iran is far worse a threat than a military action. The Iranian regime must be convinced of this before
we ( several countries, not just U.S. and Israel) strike their facilities.
Listen, the "media", the elites, mostly left, have given themselves the RIGHT to moralize that they and they alone can tell you HOW to think.....SINCE WHEN ARE YOU THERE TO TELL ME HOW TO THINK! JEEEEZ...what a bunch of hypcrites...the left who was supposed to have PIONEERED the notion of INCLUSION....not this ...this grotesque thing that the left has morphed into....
the comparisons fareed uses are false, the people he presents on his shows are biased...the whole thing is a rigged game...he is a SHILL for obama acting under CNN's banner...who by the way, just FIRED ALL OF ITS JEWISH ISRAELI REPORTERS...yes, CNN now in israel only sends arab reporters to cover stories where the old olicy was to always have one jewish and one arab reporter covering stories...NOT anymore...CNN changed that curiously, in the year runnup to obama's election....and given the iran issue he is now facing, CNN is trying to give him all the cover it can...so everything from CNN going forward is going to be nuanced to seem that israel is bad....this way, CNN tries to help influence voters against israel so when obama screws them, they wont punish him for it....its classic and its totally transparent....
the media and their collusion with obama is a very dangerous slippery slope. At the end of the day, people like fareed will be proven wrong...by that time, it will be too late, and sadly, I think even fareed knows that.
How dare Fareed not put your favorite hawks on his show. He is deeply biased and must be anti-semitic and anit-american, after all he went to college, he shouldn't be trusted. People who think are dangerous and must be stopped, watch Fox and learn what to think by really deep thinkers like Dick Morris and Bill O. Now those guys are really qualified to give their opinions and they're fair and balanced. By the way fair and balanced means always supporting the current Israeli government and being against the current American administration, right?
The US military has already sandwiched Iran. We're currently in Turkey, Iraq, and Afghanistan. And our government maintains no channel of communication with Iran. Perhaps if we removed our military from their doorstep - and showed some willingness to reach out in aneffort to at least sit down and talk with them - Iran would be less likely to feel the need to protect itself by developing nuclear weapons. From Iran's point of view, who poses a military threat? Who are the aggressors here? We don't see Iranian armed forces in Canada and Mexico. And if we did, what would our response be?
Also, for decades we have transferred vast US treasure to Saudi Arabia and other middle east countries for their oil. They can well afford to step up in response to Iran's supposed threat to the area. Why don't they? Either because they don't see Iran as a threat or they can count on the American public further bankrupting itself in an effort to police the rest of the world. They've got very convincing evidence from the past that we will do their bidding. Europe would also be at risk, yes? Are the French, the British, the Germans, the Italians, the Spanish and others stepping up? Not really . . .
Can't we keep just a little bit of our fortune at home to shore up Social Security, rebuild our schools, bring our medical care up to the standard now set by our European allies, build viable mass transit, invest in non-polluting sources of energy? Haven't we got better things to do with our resources?
Can we please use some common sense for a change?
BS of Warcraft video game players hides true military power of and aids the oh poor poor Israel crowd. Germanys guilty conscience built and gave for Free not one but two nuclear Polaris capable firing sub marines. At a cost of 200 hundred Billion a joint US/Israel undergroud base and millitary aircrafat hanges can withstand nukes euen larger than ones set off by Russia or China. Israel has signed treaty with Saudis to use its airfields in case of war. Saudis do not like Iran. Israel has more than 200 nukes, more aircraft than all surrounding nations with a couple hundred more sitting on US SHORES , that you know US would refuel mid air. Only power in mideast could take on Israel is US, and we wouid lose first couple rounds. How about this fact! Irans sites millitary and nuke are defended by our old style Patriot Missels onced by Israel to defend against Iraq Scuds and them sold to Iran and Israel got newer style even before our troops.
I'd recommend you to fing a good Jewish psychiatrist and tell her these stories, Michael. She is your only hope...
Why use North Korea as an example of nuclear development? False argument, at best. They haven't spurred an arms race because they haven't made a warhead that even works.
I like how everyone here bashes his article but cannot refute one of his points directly. You have to admit, thats pretty funny. That should probably send you a hint that you're an idiot and you're probably wrong. War with Iran is a terrible... terrible solution and I'd like to see anyone on here "actually" pick one of the points in this article and refute it. I gotta see this!
Iranian people are less enthusiastic for the prospect of regime making a deal on nuclear issue to avert an attack. For Iranians continuing to live under repressive regime is a slow death experience. Freedom, Democracy, Prosperity and Justice all of them denied by the despotic regime are the most important issues for Iranians.
Saving Iranian people is not a less worthy cause than saving the Jewish people. and surprisingly both are saved by a Regime Change in Iran. A democratic government in Iran will not pursue a Nuclear Bomb, but will want to keep Nuclear Energy program. US or Israel attack will not solve the problems. A continued crippling sanction will do the job if aimed at Regime Change.
President Obama of continued harsh sanctions is right policy if aims and result s in Regime Change, but will be deadly wrong if it aims to force the mullahs to sit on negotiating table in order to sign a treaty to purge their Military Nuclear Program and guarantee the survival of the regime. . There is no way, inspectors to be able to discover undeclared digged down nuclear sites. The regime while allowing access to declared or discovered sites will continue the military nuclear work in new undeclared sites and eventually will make the bomb.
Everything including suffering of Iranian people and western population paying steep prices for oil and gasoline will be wasted if the regime survives. Iranian people will continue to suffer living under the repression and Israelis continue to live under fear of being annihilated.
I couldn't agree more, Arash. I couldn't agree more. Iran (read: Persia) was and is a great country of great minds, great culture, and diverse thought. The problem with Americans who remember the student uprising and the hostage-taking was that it offended nationalistic sensibilities. Nationalism (which is decidedly different than patriotism – I am a patriot but I despise nationalism) has a way of bloating on itself, and that's what happened over time when it comes to how the US as a whole sees Iran as a whole. The younger people who came along afterwards were "schooled" to hate Iran, just as I was schooled to hate Russia. Now there's no longer cohesive, coherent, fact-based thought – it's degraded to my country can beat up your country. Leaders like Ahmadinejad and Bush (and wanna-be leaders like Gingrich) make it worse. Stupidity at a global scale. That's one reason I hope that the Green Revolution is revived and that they can keep the same heart the Syrian people have...fighting in the face of enormous odds and terrible losses, but realizing that its for the good of their children and grandchildren to throw off the mantle put on them by the Supreme Leader, the Assembly of Experts, and the Revolutionary Guard. One can hope, right?
suuuuuure, and fox is biased riiiiight LOL...can you say HYPCRITES?
The left are the worst hypocrites...the absolute worst! hehehehe....such drivel here on cnn....and they have the gaul to look down their noses at fox...its truly stunning. cnn exhibits such contempt for so many americans...its disgusting.
I would say HYPCRITES, but it's not a word. -5 for spelling. Go home and get schooled, son.
Fareed
Move your wife,children and love ones to Tel Aviv, Jerusalem or any other likley target of Iran nukes and then speak about rationality and reason and your take will carry more weight. Its easy to tell Netanyahu what to do while safe at home and at no risk to yourfamily
Gary, should we also invade China, Russia , North Korea, Pakistan and consider invading Venezuela? If not, why not?
It must be absolute hell to wake up in the morning, look in the mirror, and realize you're a Palin. I'd probably run out in front of a bus.
Your obsession with Sarah Palin is quite sickening. This article and discussion have nothing to do with her. Get a life or get some help, you probably need both.
This is for ( Jr and K ) a country which has said it would wipe off another country from the world map.Do you guys think such country should be allowed to engage in nuclear program?can you guys imagine how many and which countries it will wipe off if it becomes nuclear.Something which when grown will hurt you, should nerver be allowed to grow.
Pee, which countries would you allow to have nuclear weapons?
The reality of the situation in Iran is:
They do not have nukes
We are unsure if they will build nukes
Russia and China have large stakes in Iran
The most important issue for those convinced that Iran is building or will build a nuke is the last point here. Russia and China have a large stake in Iran (oil) and have verbally told us to back off. The repercussions of attacking Iran are at the very least a renewed cold war, or one that is not so cold this time around. This is a much greater risk (WWIII) than even allowing Iran to build nuclear weapons. Russian and China have everything to lose if Iran goes nuclear in terms of weapons. We should be working with them and extending them the our every support to work that angle and drop the war rhetoric, unless of course we are after their oil. The quickest way to get an animal (just using an analogy) to attack is by backing it into a corner. Again, the prospect or a renewed cold (or hot) war scares me more than Iran getting a bomb.
Well.....you need to get used to the idea. Because Iran will be bombed, if they don't back down from trying to aquire nukes,
Russia and China will stand by and do nothing, as long as we don't try to "move in" like we usually do.
The problem here is Iran can't defend its self. From an allegation like this, your are secretly building a Nuke....no I'm not.....see that's exactly what they'd say! There is no PROOF which is why it is "ambiguous" and possible they are not. Potentially starting a war on the scale that is possible to developed without clear evidence is irresponsible on a global scale.
At what cost, the destruction of Israel? The war clouds are gathering and this threat must be dealt with, now or later. The later is almost here and Israel will, not the USA, decide when it is time. I only hope the GOP is in the White House so we can assist in bringing down Iran.
Larry, just what we need , one of the three Republican chicken hawks in the whitehouse. Now let's see , who can we bomb today?
How about: The major oil companies have a monopoly and the US doesn't have a energy policy for independence. Plain and simple. Everyone knows this and we are tired of the smoke and mirror's by so-called experts with their intellectual explanations. As if they are smarter and the problem is way more complicated than anyone but they can understand.
So a man named Fareed is trying to assist the Supreme Leader in aquiring "just a couple" nuclear weapons...
Is this a suprise to anyone?
Save it for the Hamas meeting.
There is no way the world will allow Iran to aquire a nuke!
Mr. Zakaria, very well aid sir.
Your version of the 'truth' is the lie that leads to war. Wake up and smell the propaganda.
UNTIL & UNLESS IRAN does the following even the US can't prevent an attack by Israel in the coming months:
a) Open up EVERYONE of its nuclear facilities to UNHINDERED IAEA inspections.
b) IMMEDIATELY start DISMANTLING their underground nuke sites.
c) STOP all enrichment above 3.5% and VERIFIABLY surrender all Uranium enriched to over 3.5%
What the world should NEVER DO is let Iran BUY TIME in the garb of negotiations. That will be suicidal!
Nobody can blame Israel if they go to war even when the negotiations are on, but w/o fulfilling the above.
Here's Johhhhnnnyy syndrome! Stop hiding behind the Israeli skirt. Stand up and be counted for whatever you stand for...which seems to be kissing the Israeli butte.
We never learn. War would be a complete, unmitigated disaster for millions and lead to results we cannot even imagine.
Hey Zakaria, why are you hell bent on defending Iran. Is it the Muslim in you doing that .
Why are you hellbent on insisting that Fareed is a Muslim when he's not? Oh I guess it's just because you have no response to his article.
No there's no rush to get there just make sure when we do decide to attack that we try to kill as many as possible as quickly as possible...let's not be picky about who we are killing....get em all
We're going to erase world history and start over, it's happened before and it will continue to happen until we all perish from the face of this planet or get it right. Somebody has to start the conversation and I think Fareed Zakaria is uniquely qualified to lead the discussion and give us our last rites.
Zakariya writes : "Egypt has not been in a conflict with Iran for centuries".
What a naive way of looking at things.
First, for centuries Iran did not have radical government who kill their own people.
Second, Iranian government lies since its 'revolution' in 1979. Go talk to Iranian immigrants all over the world, they will tell you.
Third, Iranian government is a dictatorship. If you think Ahmadinejad is the president and a leader of Iran, you need to take a course about Iran!.
Fourth, if west close their eyes of dictatorships and crazy ppl around the world and think about economy and not human lives one day these crazy ppl will do something crazy.
Do not try to be John Lennon, you are not. You are a journalist, seek the truth.
Mr, since you are a truth seeker, what do you suggest we do to stop other dictatorships who have nuclear weapons?
Just wondering?
Fareed is a terrible TV host. He is horribly boring, and stands up for every arab nation. No wonder he and Obama are in tight.
It amazes me that CNN actually lets this guy talk. But then again CNN is not really such an open to others view station, want proof that that, watch that Soledad O'brien. Talk about one sided.
I do not know what's the bashing of this commentary by Zakaria. If Israelis want to strike Iran, by all means, let them. Why take your campaign to the USA or elsewhere. Haven't the US citizens died enough under enemy fire in the last decade? If I may ask, how many Israelis ever dared to join forces with the US to fight in Afghanistan, Iraq, Balkan, or elsewhere or assisted in the number of disasters that have struck the US recently?
Is it not it very absurd to consider Israel a legitimate State when their occupation of Palestine soil is deemed illegitimate?
Anyway, most Americans and the British politicians have sold their soul to Jewish finance, so they have to pay-up with their pound of flesh when the call is made. What a pity!
inno.. ur an idiot.. Israel has offered many time and would love to simply do the job themselves. They have not been allowed to because it would disrupt an alliance of arab nations. Go crawl back under your hole!
how you can avoid another war id you are allpwing russia to sale arm to syrian thugs to kill millions and iran give money to terrorists to kill more how you avoid war if you tell the afganestani people sorry every day, sorry for killing your kids and father...sorry for ra ping yopur sisters and brothers in jail and in abo ghreeb prsion ..sorry for burning the quran ..sorry for spiting and peeing in the mosque..sorry for killing the kids and women every day...
U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says
From Sara Sidner, CNN
updated 12:14 PM EDT, Sun March 11, 2012
U.S. service member detained in Kandahar
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
NEW: Pres. Hamid Karzai says the dead include 9 children and 3 women
A local official says 16 people were killed when the soldier went house to house
ISAF's deputy commander calls it an "appalling incident"
The service member turns himself in after the shooting, an ISAF spokesman says
Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) - An American soldier left his base in Afghanistan and went from house to house in two villages, killing 16 people in their homes, Afghan officials told CNN Sunday.
The dead include nine children and three women, plus five wounded, President Hamid Karzai said.
"The murdering of innocent people intentionally by an American soldier is an act of terror that is unforgivable," Karzai said.
The incident looks likely to inflame tensions still further between foreign troops and Afghan civilians, many of whom were enraged by the burning of Qurans by American troops last month.
American officials from President Barack Obama down called the burning an accident and apologized for it, but riots left dozens dead, including six American troops. Hundreds more Afghans were wounded.
Obama has been briefed on Sunday's shootings, two administration officials said.
"The soldier goes to the villages of Alokozai and Barakzai and attacks four houses, in which he kills 16 civilians and wounded others," said Haji Agha Lali, a member of the provincial council who said he had just been to the area.
NATO's International Security Assistance Force confirmed that a soldier had gone off base and fired on civilians before turning himself in, but did not say how many victims there had been.
There has been confusion about the number of casualties since the shooting in Kandahar province, eastern Afghanistan, with different sources offering different numbers.
Capt. Justin Brockhoff of ISAF said there had been "multiple" casualties and that the injured Afghans were being treated in ISAF facilities.
ISAF commander Gen. John Allen said the "deeply appalling incident in no way represents the values of ISAF and coalition troops or the abiding respect we feel for the Afghan people."
"I am absolutely dedicated to making sure that anyone who is found to have committed wrongdoing is held fully accountable," he said.
Acting U.S. Ambassador James Cunningham said his country was "saddened by this violent act against our Afghan friends."
"We deplore any attack by a member of the U.S. Armed Forces against innocent civilians," he said in a video statement, assuring "the people of Afghanistan that the individual or individuals responsible for this terrible act will be identified and brought to justice."
Sen. Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader, said American troops were "under tremendous pressure in Afghanistan," but that "no one can condone or make any suggestion that what (the service member) did was right because it was absolutely wrong."
Reid, a Nevada Democrat, said on CNN's "State of the Union" that the United States was "on the right track to get out of Afghanistan just as soon as we can."
Sen. John McCain, the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services committee, said: "It is one of those things that you cannot explain except to extend your deepest sympathy to those victims and see that justice is done."
He was speaking on Fox News Sunday.
The Taliban claimed that 50 people had been killed, but the Islamist militia regularly exaggerates casualty figures.
They disputed ISAF's version of events, saying several soldiers went on a raid that resulted in dozens of deaths.
But Maj. Jason Waggoner, another ISAF spokesman, said: "The civilian casualties were not the result of any operations. The soldier was acting on his own. After the incident he returned to the compound and turned himself in."
Brockhoff said officials do not yet have a motive for the shooting, which is under investigation by both NATO and Afghan officials.
Civilian casualties as a result of action by the NATO-led international coalition have long caused anger in Afghanistan, adding pressure on international forces to withdraw.
The international force has said avoiding civilian casualties is a high priority.
"My command's mission is to protect the civilian people of Afghanistan," Gen. Allen said last month. "I take very seriously the loss of every Afghan life. We will continue to do all we can to ensure the safety of the Afghan population."
The number of ISAF-caused civilian deaths decreased by nearly 17% from 2010 to 2011, the coalition force said in its December monthly report.
This is Iraq all over again. Republicans beat the drums for war. Have they learned nothing? How is this war going to be paid for? They should have a plan in place that includes tax increases to pay for it and a draft so the human sacrifice is spread amongst all classes, not just the poor and middle class. Maybe if the politicians sons and daughters go off to fight and die they will find a different path. It's all too easy when you've got nothing to lose.
Exactly, bring back the draft and let the middle-class war lovers fight and die instead of making their dumb macho comments.
war is the only solution with iran and syria , those thugs do not know the langauge of peace,,,,as long as iran has money and pay russia and hizboallah the region will be at war....we must get red of the snake head IRAN...and the snake tail SYRIA will fall and all other evil hands will be cut like hizboallah and iraqi shiia thugs...those killers have no value for human life and rights.,....russian dont like arabs or muslims they like the money, saling wepaons and arms and seen them kill each other, russia mut pay for this crim aganist humanity , the russian leaders mut put to trail as war criminals...../SILENCE IS A CRIME , UN, NATO , USA , UK AND ALL THE REST ARE SILENT AND THIS IS THE WORSE CRIME AGANIST HUMANITY. FK YOU ALL FK IRAN AND ALL THOSE SHIIA THUGS
Very sophisticated analysis , thanks for your counsel.
Well, at least Zakaria's finally come out of the closet and openly said there's nothing wrong with Iran getting nuclear weapons.
In other words, according to Zakaria, the mouthpiece of the mullahs in Iran, there's nothing wrong with the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world getting nukes.
According to Zakaria, there's nothing wrong with Iran obtaining immunity from military intervention and taking over the whole Middle East, that has 60% of the oil reserves.
According to Zakaria, there's nothing wrong with Iran turning every Arab country into a vassal state like it did in Lebanon.
According to Zakaria, there's nothing wrong with Iran increasing exports of terror worldwide after obtaining immunity from military intervention.
I am anti-war. I not only opposed the 2003 Iraq war, but was concerned that the U.S. might overreact after 9-11 (I'm glad I was wrong). But I am surprised to see a treasonous article on CNN.
I agree 100% with your assessment of this article. For CNN to continue to allow this BIASED man's propaganda, disguised as intelligent thought, to rank at or near the top of their page, I am seriously considering dropping CNN as a source of "semi-news." If this idiot keeps getting high placement by CNN, then I will cease to use them as a source in my rotation of information, and I encourage others to do the same. I do not like to be lied to or manipulated on a subject as Zakaria is so comfortable doing. Zakaria would clearly like to see some type of Islamic Caliphate in place, powered by nuclear arms. Hmmm...I wonder why? CNNm you should be ashamed of yourselves!
Dan, you sound too intelligent to have such an opinion. Who is your "unbiased" source of news. Bill O'Reilly?. Fareed has excellent programs many with guests who I'm sure you would agree with, making them unbiased of course. If the show is so troubling please don't watch it and get all upset.
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Dead wrong, dead wrong, dead wrong. The meaning of this phrase takes on new fire with Zakaria's inane points. His bias is unmistakable and a farce for CNN to put up as valuable debate! This is not just about the risk to Israel. This is not about preserving peace, since that appeasement path alone has always lead to war. This is about sparking a nuclear arms race in the most volatile part of the world. This is about nuclear proliferation into a terrorist state and losing control of this most dangerous weapon to others who breath the fire of apocalypse and martyrdom and would not hesitate to use it. This is about not letting a clear rogue state have the added power of nuclear weapons which will ONLY embolden them to act with even more impunity. This is about preventing a CLEAR enemy of the United States from achieving the most terrible weapon on Earth, and people like Zakaria should try much harder to remember where their real loyalties lie.
Mr. Zakaria, you have stretched your credibility past the breaking point with the show today. Never have I seen to promote so much deception in the effort to support Obama and the bigger war he is leading us to. You used to be an example of an attempt at credible journalism.
"obama and the war he is leading to" . Say what? I haven't heard the President beating any war drums but you should be listening more to the three chicken hawks running for the Republican Party.
Boy oh boy, there are alot BS on this board today. The people of israel do not want a war........so what in the hell is BiBi talking about.
Zakaria, the Islamic sympathizing tool, please move your broadcast over to Tel Aviv. Then you can tell nightly your opinions about why no one should attack Iran's regime, while you're sitting at the target zone. Like I said. Tool...
As usual, YOU ARE WRONG!
"First, Iran does not have nuclear weapons and the evidence is ambiguous – genuinely unclear – as to whether it has decided to make them."
Mr. Zakaria: Do you have a brain?
Exactly... why should Iran make several hardened nuclear installations buried deep underground on in mountains?
Why have they kept them secret? These installations were never disclosed, but were found out about.
Why does a country so rich in oil and gas need nuclear power?
Why is it enriching so much more uranium to 20% than is needed?
Why is it denying access to inspectors to nuclear sites until it has "cleaned up" the area?
Zakaria thinks we are as stupid as those in the world who blindly follow despot opinions and fact-less propaganda. The attempt here is to delay the American people, to obfuscate, to set doubts where clearly there are none. You don't build "peaceful" nuclear facilities hundreds of feet underground and fortify them! This is an attempt to "throw enough mud on the wall, and some of it will stick." I am beginning to suspect that Zakaria is secretly on the payroll of the Iranian state. Luckily, Americans are smart enough to see and smell a snake. CNN, on the other had has no excuse, and we should shower them with protests over this idiot being given such a prominent place in our media when all he is is a mouthpiece for the enemy.
Alexander, maybe your the one missing a brain. Even the CIA and US military are not sure what in fact the case is, but
then you must be better informed. Are you happy with the results of the Iraq war? Oh , I guess it doesn't matter does it?
IF I CONTROL EARTH
I WILL GET ALL SHIIA THUGS IN IRAN, SYRIA IRAQ, HIZBOALLAH THE ISMAILIES , QARAMETA,ALAWYAT AND EVERY EMMAM IN SHIIA AND BURN THEM LIKE THEY WANT TO BURN THE JEWS....THOSE SHIIA THUGS ARE WORSE THAN HITLER. SHIIAZIM=NAZI=FASHIST=TERRORISTS
The word is "fascist". And stop yelling. We can read in small letters, too.
I had a dream last night...
EUREKA, I found Odysseus' cave in the Island of Paliki...
I uttered, "Open Sesame"...and therein I found a bottle...I opened the top and a Genie appeared before me granting me 3 wishes..."anything your heart desires, it said"...
I responded after a second of hesitation and replied, "First and foremost, I want to return home...
Second, I want the people of my home to set free so they can come to know what freedom is and what it symbolized...
And last but not least, I wish for the Israeli Arabs to live in peace in their own homeland and the orthodoxy to receive their prize star once and for all..."
Then I woke up to reality...
You got to stop smoking that shiet.
Its not acquiring nuclear weapons, but it's the current regime in Iran which is the cancer of the modern world. As an Iranian, I feel for my people. Those who suffer the oppression of the current regime while being at the danger of an attack by foreign military. ( as far as I am concerned doesn't matter which one). Irans regime in a cancer and needs to be removed. THERE IS NO NEGOTIATION. To all naive democrats who want negotiation...Iran is not Russia, Pakistan nor even north Korea. We don't like to be told what to do. We don't negotiate. That's why we are where we are after 2500 years history. We should have been the superpower of the world. But look at us! Mr zakaria...your comments are not accurate and misleading to already misled democrats. This is not a game. You are responsible as a public figure to do smart journalism. Kissinger???. Are you kidding me? The guy is fossil. what do you think Iran wants to do.? For peace purpose? Nuclear plant. Irans regime does not give a damn as what happens in Iran. People are dying of hunger. They need food before electricity...but all the oil money goes to feed Hezbollah and Irans regime interest out of Iran. While little kids in Iran are hungry. You stupid democrats, open ur eyes. Negotiation with Iran? It's like negotiating with a 5 year old.
Iran knows this is their moment to get nukes. Once they get them, nobody will be able to stop them.
After the fall of the Soviet Union, the CIA revealed that Iran hired several of their nuclear scientists.
Iran had been covertly developing a nuclear weapons program for decades.
The ONE time it stopped its nuclear weapons program was when the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003.
So, the only proven way to stop Iran's nuclear weapons is to have a credible military threat.
Why is Zakaria afraid of the truth? Why doesn't he talk about these facts?
Clearly Zakaria is biased and has an agenda, and it is not aligned with the safety or security of the American people or the world.
Yeah Dan, right. Fareed is against the security or the US and the world, that is if he has a different view than you do.
As a journalist Mr. Zakaria is supposed to be objective yet his positions are always liberal, always pro-Arab and always anti-Isreali. Do you notice how he down plays the urgency of this all? 'Yea, they may get some dirty nukes in a few years so don't worry about it. After all, the US will prtect you." Really? I'm fairly certain that this admisistration would respond either with conventional weapons or with further santions. In the case of the former, thousands of US troops will die because we failed to support Israel now. Iran has promised to destroy Isreal and Mr. Zakaria thinks this is all talk, but is willing to believe that Iran could be trusted in a peace treaty.
Fareed, your assesment of Irans "rationality" on Sunday morning.. is almost outrageous......But.. Most glaring,.. is your assertion that Iran would not give/share a nuclear bomb with their proxy terrorists thugs..... All these Religious fanatics have been saying for years is how their going to wipe out Israel and the US.....their religious zeal is what seperates the threat from any other misguided comparison you made this morning, with respect to other nations actions....Your liberally biased refusal to acknowledge the dark reality of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon, is a threat to the security of all free people. Iran must be stopped....... Any comparisons to mistakes in Iraq 10 yrs. ago or Isreali domestic politics are irrelevent concerning Iran getting the bomb! finally.....Rula on your show this morning?....yes,I agree, she is a loser...
At what cost Mr. Zakaria...???
Zakaria thinks we are as stupid as those in the world who blindly follow despot opinions and fact-less propaganda. The attempt here is to delay the American people, to obfuscate, to set doubts where clearly there are none. You don't build "peaceful" nuclear facilities hundreds of feet underground and fortify them! This is an attempt to "throw enough mud on the wall, and some of it will stick." I am beginning to suspect that Zakaria is secretly on the payroll of the Iranian state. Luckily, Americans are smart enough to see and smell a snake. CNN, on the other hand has no excuse, and we should shower them with protests over this idiot being given such a prominent place in our media when all he is is a mouthpiece for the enemy.
Mr. Zakaria speaks so "matter of factly" that Israel has a nuclear weapons...He must clearly have knowledge that no one else has
Maybe he has "friends" in the Arab or Persian world who have given him secret intel we don't have? Maybe he owes them something seeing how he regurgitates like a trained parrot these terrorist regimes anti-U.S. and anti-Israel rhetoric? Maybe he owes someone in the Arab world a few favors, and he's using his poison pen and lies to pay them off? His opinion is SO biased and full of white-lies, I can't imagine any other reason for his obvious misdirection on this issue. Only time and retirement memoirs will tell....and I hope that his retirement is soon.
Farid you out to be ashamed of yourself for selling your soul for money. You are a Muslim and human. Read and research before you talk. Spend time in Iran and istrael so you see the dynamics? How can you be an expert and make comments about so many countries with such certainty. Not to blame you fully, you are employed by CNN which is owned ultimately by an oil company...shame what world has come to. To the rest of democrats...please open your eyes...travel...read till you understand that all nations don't share the same culture. We are just different than you.
Zakaria Created the most idiot spin....That an Iranian Nuclear weapon would be a stabilizing factor in the middle east like India and Pakistan...0ver 40 years without war...
This guy is completely lost....It is a pity CNN gives him this platform.
We usually view your program. Last week we were listening on satellite radio, and it was impossible to discern what members of your panel were saying, because they were "talking over one another".
This week was better. Please, emphasize to your guests that if they want to be heard, they need to take "their turn".
I casually observe Fareed's Sunday column and I think this is the thrid week in the a row where theme had something to do with avoiding or delaying war with Iran.
He's on a mission to preserve the Iranian nuclear program at all costs. I wonder why?
Forgive me for my naivety, what has the USA or anyone else got to do with Iran's, nuclear program but some misguided politicians in Israel? Certainly not the Jewish people worldwide who have been living in peace, historically with the Persians including Iran.
Why should Israel take their campaign of war to the US? Surely, they are not hoping to enlist US-jews in their army to fight in Iran?
If Israel want's to strike Iran, then do so without blabbing. I'll be glad to read about it- the strike on Iran i.e.
You are naive.
How about explaining why you consider my comment as naive? Is it because you have nothing better to offer than dribbles?
I'll give it a shot. A nuclear Iran is EVERYONE'S problem. This is not a game. Weapons of this level are not something to be allowed lightly into this world – thus the nuclear proliferation treaties that have slowed if not stopped the march of this dreadful weapon. One more nuclear nation in the volatile Middle East is one too many. Esp. in the hands of a rogue state that is a CLEAR enemy of the U.S. and Israel and who religious, fiery rhetoric revels in the apocalypse and the end of the world for the infidel and Israel. AGAIN, THIS IS EVERYONE'S PROBLEM.
Here goes another "I'm better than thou" Why on earth should Israel or anyone else consider themselves more capable of retaining a nuclear weapon than Iran?
How about a complete dis-armarment of the middle-east from nuclear weapons and other forms of WMD, such as the phosphorous being sprayed on innocent Palestinians children?
Inno, don't start talking about moral equivalence, because you will lose the argument. I' glad you're responding because that means you are engaged. So are we. It's not a better than anyone argument" – it is what is the right thing to do now. All sides have made mistakes. All sides can point to things ans say "see they are the aggressors." I for one, will NEVER forget the images of Palestinians dancing in the streets and giving out candy after 9/11. They lost the moral high ground long ago, so don't point to them as merely innocent victims. Victims yes. Innocent? Never!
Thanks Dan, well said.
Your comment is naive because President Ahmadinijead said he wants to wipe Israel and her allies (US) off the face of the earth.
And you wanna give the guy a nuke?
Go occupy a sidewalk.
Hey CNN, where is the other point of view on this issue?! How about providing a similar TOP SPOT on your page to an opinion about this issue by someone with a wholly different LAST NAME? The point of view and bias are SO obvious! Give someone else the same space to counter this ridiculous and clearly Arab/Persian sympathizing propaganda.
Truth. And how about the three headlines on cnn on Israeli airstrikes but none about the hundreds of rockets that fell on southern Israel over the weekend terrorising and wounding the innocent.
Funny because some people say CNN is all propaganda. Just because Zakaria has a Muslim name, he is going to be considered bias...Great! I used to think the whole news coverage of CNN is bias...still kinda do. But I still watch the show because finally there is some guy who is looking at ANOTHER point of view.
Also Litvak, shall we talk about the thousands suffering in the State of Palestine right now? Where are the headlines about those people? Where are headlines about the Palestinians fearing to roam the streets near the borders of Israel and Palestine? Where are the headlines about the Israeli expansion on Palestinian soil? Where are the headlines about water shortages in Palestine? Where are the headlines about the arrested Palestinian activists or I can even call them "anarchists" who tried to protect themselves from the army? As I said before, I believe in the existence of Israel, but bias and senseless statements make me laugh.
The time to strike monkey boy dinijad is now.. what's in it for the USA to wait? For Israel? To allow them time to build more rockets, more bombs and complete the work on a nuke? The legacy of Pakistan's AQ Kahn live strong in Iran, with his help they have the basics.. now it's just a question of time- actually.. rethink that.. it may already be too late. If the USA and Israel do not make their move now.. there may not be a chance in the future.. Zakaria is simply not objective.
mrdore says:
"inno.. ur an idiot.. Israel has offered many time and would love to simply do the job themselves. They have not been allowed to because it would disrupt an alliance of arab nations. Go crawl back under your hole!"
No need for name calling. Well if "they" have not been allowed to strike Iran and they can't do anything about it, then Israel should shut their mouth and stop talking tough when they do not have the stomach to fight.
War is not about selling jewellery or running pawn-shops, ponzi-schemes, you know. Lives of people are at stake- American and British lives are at stake where the drum of war is beating hardest.
I have no doubt that "American Pravda" can convince the electorate of the WMD threat in Iran –
they did it in Iraq – killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Costing perhaps 2-3 Trillion.
We re-elected Bush/Cheney. They passed out tax cuts to keep you in line while Bush/Cheney were
adding trillions to the National Debt. All the while the US government had resources of over a billion/week
(now 2 billion/week) for hard and soft intelligence to determine credible WMD threats to the US.
We ought to use some of this hard-borrowed and hard-earned money to fix a broken intelligence instrument.
On the other hand, it may just have been politicians (called Democrats and Republicans) counting on your ignorance.
What a fallacious load of crap your argument is! Using Strawman Attacks, Apples and Oranges false comparisons, Ad Hominem and Obfuscation. You throw out the entire lib-gambit playbook in a desperate attempt to be credible, and yet your lies and baloney betray you from the outset! Iraq is not Iran. Bush was 4 years ago, get over it! False WMDs are not the Iranian Nuclear Program. Pravda goes both ways (thankfully) in the U.S. free press. (Zakaria's Arab bias being a prime example!) Despite your elitist disdain and closed circle of false intellectual "yes friends" arrogance, the American people are not stupid. We are clearly engaged and informed in protecting our future and our families. And we are engaged and informed about this issue in particular. Nuclear proliferation is not a game. Esp. into a rogue state who is a clear enemy of the U.S. Grow a pair, get a real argument, start facing people who actually challenge your inane statements, and start living up to the strength and duty the founding fathers fought so hard and risked to much to bestow upon you!
Dan, great post , you used every reactionary cliche in the book. One would have to work hard and long to surpass your blind anger.
1st just want say fareed u no good traitor ur people come home face ur treasonas acts so watch u get hanged or go get asylum in isreal so u die with all 4sreal when we nuke them tur66ming oven up 2 high hezbollah plus iran equals what weak syph3elis hitler coundnt do wipe out all isreal boo yah
In his native country, the Islamo crazies would saw Fareed's head off, throw his body in a ditch, and post the video on Islamo Tube.
Zakaria is a pseudo-intellectual.
Please inform me who you think is a "real" intellectual. It should be interesting.
Excellent article. Unfourtunatly No one ne is interested in tha facts and truth. The military industrial complex has to have new markets now that the Iraq war is over and Afghanistal war is coming to end shortly.
"Iran's weapons could fall into the hands of terrorists, says the President. But would a country that has labored for decades to pursue a nuclear program and suffered huge sanctions and costs to do so then turn around and give away the fruits of its efforts to a gang of militants? This kind of reasoning is part of the view that the Iranians are mad, messianic people bent on committing mass suicide."
Really? Considering their leader's wants are to wipe Israel from the map, your statements here don't fit reality. They have labored for what? Simply to have power? No, they have a goal in mind.
SHAME ON THE UNITED STATES, WE'VE BECOME PUPPETS FOR ISREAL...THEY BOMBED IRAQ BECAUSE THEY KNEW WE HAD THEIR BACK. THEY DID SAME TO SYRIA BECASUE WE HAD THEIR BACK.. NO ITS IRAN.. I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE THEM TO THEIR OWN FATE FOR ONCE, AND LET THEM SEE THE CONSEQUENCES OF WAR.. WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL, SO THATS THEY DO NOT LEAD US TO OUR DOWN FALL.. YES WE HAVE THE BEST MILLITARY IN THE WORLD, BUT WHAT IF OTHER COUNTRIES GANG UP AGAINST US??? WE SHOULD BE RATIONAL WHEN DECIDING WAR AND THE ISREALITES SHOULD THINK BEFORE THEY ACT.. IRAN POSSES NO THREAT TO THEM NOW, AND NEVER WOULD THEY, BECAUSE AM SURE THEIR LEADERS ARE RATIONAL, AND THEY KNOW WHAT UNLEASHING A NUCLEAR WAEPON ON ISREAL WOULD BRING.. AFTER ALL, BEFRE THE IRANIAN REVOLUTION, ISREAL SPOKE TO IRAN ABOUT GETTING A NUKE..
I am going to believe your statements because, obviously, you have superior intelligence. You say anything and I believe it. I do not really see an Islamist trying to instigate dissent, but a genuine American. hehehe...
Fareed must be a Muslim, No Muslim dare to publicy criticize or condemned another Muslim.
Please translate your comment into English.
Habibi, his English is pretty good. Are you ok?
I think Obama is showing good heel cooling leadership. An attack on Iran would just cement the current regiemes leadership as they could go on a permanent war footing, the Persian pride thing would dominant, etc etc, and they could do whatever they want then. Its possible the leadership in Iran may just settle for dual purpose development without a rush to the bomb if Obama can keep Israel in check. But an attack would mean a rush to the bomb in yet hidden development centers.
My wife are huge fans of GPS, and is now the only Sunday political talk show we still watch. Fareed is one of the few remaining true journalists in the telecast media.
Our only criticism is his failure to prevent his panelists from talking (shouting) over each other. The Sunday's show was an extreme example. Please impose the rule that one panelist should not interrupt another until a reasonable time has elapsed.
Thanks, and keep up the good work on this otherwise great show.
Fareed is a biased mouthpiece, advocating a single point of view that is misguided at best, deceitful and manipulative at worst. (I think it is all the above.) He is projecting a false image of the Middle East and a false vision for where that part of the world is heading. He has a right in the free press, but we too have a right to call him on his lies, his misrepresentations, and his naive statements. Watch him at your peril.
Dan, your comment is almost comprehensible. What does it mean that Fareed has "a single point of view" ?
How many points of view is he supposed to have, and how many do you have?
Fareed Zakaria GPS March 11th, 2012
Creating facts to fit the truth
Democracy? Freedoms? Nation building? What a load of sleep walking doodle. We're all just feeding the machine, plain and simple. And it is one hungry-beyond-description juggernaut. And what do you suppose it's designed to do? Feed itself and spit out profits to its owners and shareholders in a business-friendly environment
The real fight is over who gets to control the machine. And there's plenty of cash for its designers and caretakers. Meanwhile it just kills to eat, and amuses itself with songs of heroes and fools.
Preach liberalism Democracy? Freedom? Nation building? and use the idea of to bring about class and sectarian wars.
Since the Dawn of Civilization Mighty’s Hundred = seven Times twenty, and will stay till the judgment day.
You are nothing but a biased mouthpiece for those who would destroy America if they could. You have a right to your opinion, but we too have a right to stand up and challenge your inane statements and false points. You sir, are merely playing into the enemy's hands, or supporting them.
Have you served in the military?
"Creating facts to fit the Truth". It's comforting to know that you know the real Truth. No on second thought it's not comforting.
Habibi, my heart breaks that you have found no comfort. Do you want to talk about it?
Another stupid misrepresentation of reality.
hope they hold back the attack until you arrive in Iran
Zakaria is always in defense of Iran. I wonder
I watched todays programming with Henry Kissinger and the debate with the 4 panelist, 2 middle eastern, 2 israel's and i am curious why is all the talk about not attacking iran and the what ifs if an attack occurred instead of why we should attack there is way to many negative scenarios if the world doesnt stop iran than if the world does stop iran. war is the last means to resolving a conflict but a necessary one when the choice is clear to use military force, and the fact that the middle east lies and hides either they have weapons or not is proof that the region is laced with corruption deception and mistrust and there desire to tangle a web of deception for the United World Countries is clear. The purpose of the United Nation is to prevent this type of situations through sanctions negotiation and military force nither first 2 have worked for 2 decades and the path is clear force must be used to prevent a global nuclear war, and u cannot compare North Korea and Russia China Etc with Iran each country has its own desires within there regions
The only similarity is the inability to play it straight.
for a change someone that tells it like it is.
and Irans desire for a nuclear country is to control the worlds energy supply and expand its regional power on a more global scale.
Actually, Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons is very rational. Think about it, we invaded Iraq because we "didn't want to wait until the smoking gun was in the form of a mushroom cloud" (George W. Bush). We didn't invade North Korea, however, and they have nukes. They've also supported terrorism and aided Pakistan and Libya's efforts to acquire nukes. One might assume from this that the only way to be sure America doesn't come after you is if you have at least one nuke avaialable.
HERE IS THE TRUTH IF YOU WISH TO LISTEN. YOU CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS IS MY OPINION VS YOUR LIFE. Our leaders in the US, UK and Europe, for the protection of Israel choose Kings and Shas and dictators in the Arabic world. It is easier to control people who are eager to bleed Israelis because of the way they have treated Palestinians since 1948. We provide strong security apparatus to protect kings who in turn can silence their people and put in jail whom we want without impunity as it is the case in Jordan, Morroco, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc... We create, support and allow few pariahs who were never elected but rather chosen by us to run the undesirable countries we sometimes call Allies. But here is the truth, Bush declared war against all of them and the Arab spring has come to kick the ones we protected (like Moubarak) so where is that part of the world going to? Our Middle-east experts have lost their minds, everything is changing since the Iranian revolution of 1979 we failed to understand and the fall of Moubarak we do not understand and Yemen we do not understand and Syria we do not understand and Lebanon (Condi said New World Order) we do not understand and Iraq we did not understand and Afghanistan we do not understand... They know where are going but we DO NOT KNOW where WE ARE GOING! BECAUSE Israel runs this country and its politicians like slaves. They have to fight each other to please AIPAC before they are considered for office. AIPAC is the true White House and they veto anybody to any federal position who does not have a history of allegiance to Zionism. They are the nerves and arteries that sustain American life. Unless the 99% of Americans wake up to see that the 1 or 2% sucking their American blood and taking them down the drain, this country is doomed to become the sheep yard of the Zionist shepherd. In fact we have been for decades the workers who feed the "Happy Israelis". They even produce in Israel what is our main necessities and they control from Israel via Media and Hollywood our way of life. We may be already doomed.
you cannot compare Iran to Pakist. or India or Afgh each of those countries have some sort of sanity and control of there weapons of mass destruction ie: nuks afgh and paki do have serious worries for the world because of instability within there political system and terrorist having a power within there political system thats a cause for alarm but not to be compared to IRAN at ALL CNN likes to compare RUSSIA PAKI, AFGH, NORTH KOREA with IRAN and YOU CANNNOT!!!! IRAN IS HELL BENT ON CONTROL AND POWER WHERE AS THE OTHER COUNTRIES ARENT AS HELL BENT AS IRAN AND THE OTHER ACTORS DO IT IN ANOTHER WAY WHERE AS IRAN KNOWS POWER COMES FROM NUCLEAR MILITARY STRENGTH WHERE NO SANCTIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS HAVE A BARING ON THEM
oh you can trust Pakistan, really?
James, please inform us if Israel has nuclear weapons or not, and permits inspection of it's nuclear facilities, if it has them.
Also why you believe Pakistan is a more rational actor than Iran? What in Pakistan's behavior indicates this?
I don't know where your coming from with your facts, but Iran is suffering by sanctions. However, they are trying to survive on what they have (which is barely). When it comes to comparison to Pakistan, Afghanistan (who has no nukes), North Korea and Russia are awfully corrupt and unstable. Also where is the proof that Iran has nuclear WEAPONS?
To Texana: Israel is not a democracy. It is a "Jewish State", that will make sure that it stays that way. They do it by not allowing Palestinians who were forced out by war to return. They do it by restricting immigration to Jewish people. They do it by not allowing the Palestinians of the west bank who have been under occupation for over 30 years the right to vote.
To see the TRUTH you must first be willing to confront the facts. ISRAEL IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. It is an Apartheid State that does not deserve the support of the USA.
Uh Israel is the ONLY state in the middle east in which anyone be he jew christian or muslim can live safely, there are muslims in the israeli goverment and in the israeli millitary. It is the ONLY state in the middle east in which women have equal rights. So to attack Israels democratic status is just preposterous. Jews are not allowed into most arab states and a christian would fear his life. Their children are raised and tought to murder all those who do not see things as they do.
HAHAH! Nice one Litvak...Muslims in Israeli government and army? I used to think they were suppressed. Maybe I am just wrong...if I was a Muslim serving Israeli army, I would not harm my own people in Palestine nor will I ever join the army. Talking about raising children up fanatically, doesn't every Israeli teenager or young adult needs to serve in the army? Oh, they might not be hurting others, but they are being taught to kill or protect. No offence...I support the existence of Israel, but when people like you saying such ridiculous statements, I sometimes think...seriously? "Their children are raised and tought to murder all those who do not see things as they do" , bold, bias and bogus statement...Im actually laughing >.<
Also...There are plenty of Christians living in Middle Eastern countries (Egypt, Lebanon, UAE, KSA...etc). Wait...Egypt and Lebanon (countries whom I visited) where Christians and Muslims live peacefully right beside each other? Okay...yeh, they might sometimes get into conflicts and they get resolved. A country like KSA isn't democratic. Lets not forget that...there laws are mainly based on religion (which are now diminishing). I know several Christians working happily there...they might be suppressed indeed, but they practice their religion at home or I even heard several compounds have small churches within them. Talking about the Jews...well some Muslims countries had to take some sort of action against Israel...so they bard them from entering because they felt their fellow Muslims in Palestine were not being treated so pleasantly.
Well then maybe you should google it. There are muslims in the Israeli knesset. And there are muslims in the millitary. Furthermore israelis are not raised to hate muslims. Israeli leaders do not preach death to all, nor do they say that palestinians should be wiped off the map, contrary to their palestinian neighbors. Laugh at your own ignorance if you wish. As for the comparison of the mandatory draft, do you mean to say that when there was a mandatory draft in the US it meant death to everyone else? It is to protect their liberty. As for the palestinians they lived in liberty in the state of Israel until the terrorist attacks started. You seem to have a knack at justifying everything besides what the israelis do. And you say you hate bias. Impressive.
Furthermore there are nearly 1.5 million muslims living in Israel carrying Israeli citizenship and have full and equal rights. They all could have if they weren't hell bent on driving all Jews into the sea. Let's see if Jews would be granted full and protected citizenship in any of their neighbors lands, the answer is no. But then you would probably justify that and say that iys understandable and at the same time not comprehend it were it the other way around which its not. You anti Israel people are a real puzzle. Not sure if its a lack of intelligence or the blind following of emotion with a total disregard to intelligence.
Have any of you heard of the 12th Imam? The Iranian Ayatollahs have and they want him to return.
I'm brazilian ,I don't know write english ,because in brazil everybody are dumb ,I to like barack obama because he is smart much
hey Fatmah, do they really speak Portuguese in Iran?
ADAM your not in reality sorry, america backs middle eastern leaders ie; Mubarak because the region is unstable you can clearly see radicals control majority of the middle east hence Egypt its now under muslim brotherhood control after over throwing a leader we knew and what he was about and to say that israel is the culprit is delusional. Christians ,Catholics, Jews even Muslims can visit jerusalem freely without being killed or prevented never before was that possible when muslims controlled the region. You need to ask yourself this what do middle eastern people stand for what do they contribute to the global world besides burning flags chatting evil vial hatred towards others and to there own people because there from different regions or tribes. Middle eastern people are lost uninformed poorly educated people who refuse to co existence among different religions and ethnic people within there world because they refuse to embrace respect for others
Wow James for your knowledge! You are the best sheep of the Israeli shepherd. Eat your grass and let other investigate knowledge. Egyptians kicked off your elected Moubarak, do you have a sense of what is coming? If Jews and Christians remained in Jerusalem after more then a 1,000 years it's because Muslims choose to protect them from the Crusaders and other invaders. You lack serious knowledge about the Middle-East.
chanting
I tried to watch GPS this morning (Mar. 11) re Israel/Iran/Obama, but two of the panel's irrepressible (and impenetrable) multibabble ("the CNN disease") was so affronting that my TV set actually turned itself off in disgust. (And this set even managed to avoid vomiting into Limbaugh the other day, so it has a pretty high zoo tolerance.) Maybe CNN should select its panelists with an ear to their basic civility – or alternatively, crash-course them in discourse 101.
,I to like barack obama because he is smart much
,I to like barack obama
Karina, por favor para de fazer de boba aqui. Voce estah dando uma mal impressao dos brasileiros. Aprende ingles ou nao escreva aqui. Obrigado
Fareed it is time to reset your GPS towards objectivity. I watch his programme to see how the mainstream media deals with contentious issues. The point is, they don't do so effectively. They entrench prejudices rather than illuminate the truth and if they hear the truth, they shut it down or shout it down as happened on the programme today.
It was not a duplicate comment. And now you censor too!
What's worrying is all the crazies who post comments here. There are the two extremes of war mongers who think nothing of consequences (we still are dealing with the Iraq fiasco) and the virulent anti-semites who post incomprehensible and offensive messages. It's a case of emotion gone out of control. It resembles professional wrestling more than debate.
Muslims and Jews are becoming more alike. Neither group allows criticism of its members – the few who dare to slef-criticise are pilloried, check out the Harvard Jewish professor, the hat against J- Street and other actions to silence Jews who disagree with AIPAC going on in the US. Most Jews are pro-Israel, whether they are right or left wing or not religious, and whether they agree with a 2 state solution or with Netanyahu. You don't have to follow only one extreme right view to be pro-Israel. It is healthy to question the current Israeli policies, which I think are very destructive to Israel. Israel is going to have to change, and modify a lot of its rhetoric, which belongs to last century and to failed policies. Israel is no safer now, so need to try other options. War with Iran is totally against the US interests, and we cannot afford it. The pro war group wants to push us into another unfunded war, when we are crippled by the last ones. Cutting needed infrastructure spending inside the US is not an option. It is weaken us further and there will no gains except more expense. We are not responsible for Israel, especially when Israel is no longer a democracy and is becoming religiously extreme. As long as Israel refuses to deal fairly with it's subject people, and pursue diplomatice means rather than military as a first recoourse, I do not want to subsidise Israel. We need to get our military our of bed with Israel and get our own independent intelligence network in the middle east and elsewhere, and our own expert counter-terrorist operations. As long as we are forced to go through the Israeli agenda, and as long as Israel dictates our foreign policy, we are not independent and sovereign. We need to have Arab and other friends in the future, in order to look after our own national interests first. Does this mean that I am saying for us to continue supporting Saudi Arabia and the Egyptians under the old contracts, no. We need to review everything and come up with a new game plan, without the liabilities of the old. We don't know where things are going in the ME, and we need maximum flexibility to further our own, America's interests first, without the baggage we now have. I don't find Zakaria particularly pro-Obama, I think that Obama is right to hold back on war, and we need to stop putting everything into ideological pigeon holes. That is helping to weaken us and stop us from assess each thing properly, and choosing the right course of action regardless of partisanship. I am sick of the partisan bickering obstructing our functioning.
Dan, good post. I'm sure it will stir up much anger and hatred toward you. Commenters out here don't like thoughtful posts.
wolfman does the world pose a threat from israel having nuclear weapons? NO!!!! and tell that to arabs who where murdered from saddam i have friends whos families where almost totally removed off the face of earth because of saddam and egyptian friends who are christian who before the arab spring where killed because they where christian and came to american to escape persecution so before u comment make sure you know what the hell your talking about
James, I didn't say that the Israeli's pose a threat to the world by having nuclear weapons, I just wonder why it's OK for them to "unofficially" have them and they can demand that others can't. Why you bring Sadaam into this I don't know.
hatred comes from ignorance and the refusal to except the truth and DAN and WOLFMAN clearly REFUSE TO EXCEPT THE TRUTH. ITS OK BECAUSE GOD STILL LOVES THE UN EDUCATED ILL INFORMED PEOPLE OF THE WORLD LOLOL
Some people are the kind that would never believe Nazi Germany had ill intentions until they saw a Panzer rolling down their own street. Even then, they would claim that it was a street cleaner.
I only hope we don't wait until Iran actually explodes a bomb.....once that happens we no longer stand a chance.
It's better we TAME THIS DEMON NOW as Netenyahu rightly says.
Immediately after, we need to NEUTRALIZE the ISLAMIC BOMB with Pakistan, and divide that nation to DEFANG THE FOUNTAIN OF ISLAMIC JIHAD emanating from there.
We then need to focus our attention on communities right here in the west whose PHILOSOPHY is DIAGONALLY OPPOSITE to EVERYTHING AMERICA BELIEVES IN !!!!
Unless we do these....the free world can never rest in peace.
there is hope for you 2 ahahha
ahahha. Dim bulb.
Let's summarize this article:
Israel is a war-mongering country. Iran is an innocent, confused but well-intentioned country who is now willing to negotiate for the first time in its history. Obama is a pawn and Republicans can't wait for war. Iran is not really pursuing nuclear weapons because we don't have any proof of that, and even if they did, would it be so bad? Worst case is a permanent nuclear standoff. Look at all the countries who don't have wars after attaining nukes! It does not matter whether Iran can be rational – that's not important. It is America and Israel's responsibility to avoid conflict even when Iran becomes irrational. Other countries have been fine with their neighbors developing nukes – why shouldn't Israel? We can count on the fact that Iran would never supply nuke technology to 'terrorists'. Why would they want to help a band of people who hate the US as much as Iran does?
This article literally takes reality and turns in upside down, expecting readers to believe through some kind of Jedi mind trick.
One question reveals the idiocy of this article: if the roles of Israel and Iran were completely reversed right now, would the author be sending the exact same message?
mdamone lolol again rational dictates if your gonna use the weapon or not and its clear iran will use the weapon they fund terrorist and iran for the first time in history is not willing to negotiate how long have u been on planet earth a week lolol obama is a weak president who doesnt care about israel pull this crap with BUSH we would have not had to worry about war because BUSH never bluffed or played games and iran has NEVER SHOWN RATIONAL AGAIN WHAT PLANET ARE AND HAVE U BEEN LIVING ON LOLOL
EXCUSE ME IS WILLING TO NEGOTIATE
NOT 1 MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRY HAS WANTED TO ALLOW ISRAEL CO EXIST WITHIN THERE REGION NOR ALLOW CHRISTIANS AND CATHOLICS BE THERE EITHER SO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY????? NOT ONE OF THE SUPPORTERS OF THE MIDDLE EAST EXPLAIN TO ME WHY START EXPLAINING
Dear Fareed, just because nuclear war has not broken out between two nuclear nations doesn't mean it can't nor that it won't. Your logic is completely flawed – put simply the more countries with nuclear weapons, the more likely nuclear war.
JERUSALEM IS NOT MIDDLE EASTERN ITS NOT MUSLIM ITS HUMANITIES HOLLY LAND ITS JEWS CATHOLICS CHRISTIANS MUSLIM ETC SO DONT TELL ME ITS MUSLIM LAND THAT DOG DONT HUNT
A lot of useless comments here. Israel is scared to attack Iran and that's why they are openly saying it. Unlike in the past when they suddenly attacked Iraq and Syria's nuclear sites. Ofcourse, a lot of you americans and jews warmongers would like nothing better than to see another muslim country attacked for any excuse. We understand that, it is your nature.
ASIF ISRAEL ALREADY DECIDED TO ATTACK IN OCT OR NOV OF LAST YR AND THEY WOULDNT BUY 1 BILLION DOLLARS 30 FIGHTER JETS FROM ITALY FOR SHI!!!!!!!!!!! AND GIGGLES THERE PLAYING POLITICES TO PUSH THE WORLD TO MAKE A STANCE AND BUY TIME TILL THE WEATHER IS BETTER LOLOL
ASIF the world is TIRED OF THE MIDDLE EAST NOT WITH ISRAEL we are tired of a region that spits venum from its mouth TOWARD americans, WE see it on tv in the papers, americans are tired of sending troops there to get ride of the terrorist leaders, america is tired of listening to you cry wolf after you attack others THE WESTERN WORLD IS TIRED OF THE MIDDLE EAST
shocking!
Did you ever see Indian or Pakistan financing terrorists in Syria and Palestaine autonomy? I don't think so!
With that said, who would like to give the Iranian regime a nuke now?
Zakaria's comments are really off based, he read a script without knowing the real background for all this conflict.
b.s.!
I am amazed how many bigots are among us – the readers!
Fareed is a product of "political diplomacy" culture and therefore often wrong. His "Facts", may not be facts, I have read reports that Iran already has enough fissle material for one bomb and is now working on the high expolsives (simple) to set it off, this may only be months away, not years as he claims.
I'm all for diplomacy, but it has failed, the Europeans have tried three times, the Russians offered to supply fuel for reactors, IAEA inspectors have tried twice within the last month, no, this is a time for military action.
This is a rational country – http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/11/world/meast/egypt-virginity-tests/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 Basically women arrested during the protests in Iran were physically violated by army doctors to humiliate them and dishonor their name and cause. People like Zakaria have to stop IMAGINING the political powers in Iran are rational!!!!
You know you posted an article about Egypt, right? One in which Iran wasn't even mentioned?
I guess Egypt isn't a rational actor either – let's bomb it back to the Stone Age too, and throw in Syria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Yemen, Libya, Tunisia, etc. for good measure!
jeff elfort i agree enough is enough the middle east is a region unable to govern itself without corruption murder hatred terrorism and the world is always forced to act with force and we are the bad ones its ridiculous there needs to be serious democratic change within these countries because it will get to the point where UNITED NATION TROOPS WILL BE STATIONED WITHIN THESE COUNTRIES TO CONTROL THE LAWLESSNESS THEY POSSES
Why would Iran nuke the holy of holies? The dome of the rock is sacred to Muslims therefore if Israel is nuked the holy land will be good to no one. Then again, we wouldn’t have anything to fight over, but knowing human nature I am sure we will think of something…LOL!
I agree with Dan and Wolfman back there, another war does not benefit the U.S especially at this critical point but here's the kicker, neither Iran nor Israel is expecting a War either. Confused. Its a lengthy read and I said the same in another blog but the comment applies here too.
Iran: The 2009 uprising in Iran could have very well been the trigger for the Arab Spring and that it was successfully quelled then is no guarantee that the same would be for future uprising especially with the uprising next door in Syria. There has been over the past year or so a certain strain in the relationship between the Ayatollah and Ahmadinejad with regards to political decisions and the administration of the State. Externally, the list is endless, economic sanctions by the West and an increased isolation from fellow Arab states. All this points to a regime that is under pressure and has sustained itself so far by using political rhetoric and posturing as a pre-emptive measure to keep its enemies at bay. However it is likely and I will want to emphasis “likely” that Iran has developed an impudence resulting from the combination of a United States which has almost unanimously decided that military intervention in the Middle East is not an option especially in an election year and as Daniel Levy pointed out on GPS an Isreal which will not attack Iran without United States backing. The ultimate goal of the administration will be to unify and distract its people and keep its international critics at bay by calling the bluff of the West and it seems to be working. Needless to say instigating a military action is not the goal of this regime.
Israel on the other hand or rather Netanyahu and the Likud party seam to be using the spotlight primarily for political reasons. Rula Jebreal and Daniel Levy pointed out that the idea of a pre-emptive strike by Israel does not sit well with the entire Israeli parliament and that furthermore the stalemate with regards to the issue of Palestine has prompted Netanyahu to look for a distraction, and I agree. This is evident by the fact that the Palestinian problem if you may which has always been the defining issue between Israel and the United State was not addressed publicly at least during his recent visit to the White House. The argument for a nuclear Iran as a reason for a strike is somewhat baseless because by now everyone knows that Iran’s experimenting with cold fusion has primarily been used as a deterrent for public relations. It is very likely and again I emphasis “likely” Israel knows that Iran is posturing and is counting on a reluctant White House to do nothing at least militarily for now. Sounds far fetched? I agree, but look at it from the point of view of a sitting Prime minister of Israel: with the support of parliament at stake and the preference of the United States for a two state solution to the Palestinian issue, a view that most Israeli’s don’t share. There is really nothing much for Netanyahu to write home about. Is the White House been used as a prop in this theatrical production? I am afraid so. And it is very likely that this production is going to be on stage and unresolved for a while much to the advantage of Iran and Israel.
So before we start getting emotional about the whole thing lets remember that both States are counting on the Arab versus Israel sentiments and a pro-diplomatic White House ( in election year) for their play to be successful
SAMN your wrong ISRAEL is using this to squeeze obama, obama isnt pro israel its politics with america and israel not israel and the middle east israel isnt tolerating terrorism and attacks anymore look at what the general said today with gaza israels are fed up with being attacked israel already decided in oct or nov Netanyahu has been sounding the alarm for 2 decades on iran and he isnt gonna chance a what if with iran war is coming
israel rather destroy the facilities that build the nuks than play politics israel is waiting for clearer weather and by repeating obamas own words that israel has the right to defend itself and america will support israel puts obama in a position to not only support israel but join in the war to prevent a oil crisis its a squeeze play by israel against obama period and simple
Zakaria continues to be a supporter of the rulers of Iran. He states that "we" should not start a war with Iran. He chooses to ignore the fact that Iran is already at war with the US and Israel.The IED's that killed American troops came from Iran. The hundreds of missiles now striking Israel come from Iran. Zakaria is both a coward and a traitor and should be deported to Iran.
Fred, so nice to know that he should be deported to Iran, since that's not where he's from but I guess it doesn't matter because while pretending to defend the US and it's way of life you find it fit to decide who should be deported and for what.
Should everyone who disagrees with you be deported or only Fareed?
I think the important question is not whether or when Israel will attack Iran, it's rather when will it attack Iran a second time after the first attack. See, following the first attack, the Iranians will buckle down, kick out the inspectors, and this time really get to work to build a bomb, in order to deter future attacks. The sanctions regime will stay, but will weaken with Russia, China, India and others no longer scared into following the sanctions in order to keep the Israelis from attacking. The attack will already have happened. There may then a third attack maybe even a fourth. But eventually the Iranians will get a bomb, even a crude device at first, but now enraged after numerous attacks, intent of revenge for the thousands of Iranians killed. So the real question is what will the U.S. do then? If you are in favour of a attack on Israel, tell me what will you do then? And invading all of Iran is not an option: Just see what Hezbollah did against Israeli ground forces and multiply that by around 1000.
The world has a responsibility to side and protect israel from terrorists and the possibility of total destruction of the jewish people and state and republicans know that the only solution is to defend israel and go on the offensive this isnt war mongering its protecting and keeping a race of people safe and alive people compare iran to iraq because its easier to over simplify the iranian nuk program than it is to face reality that iran is building the nuks and the only option is military strike
farzin iran will have over 40 nations with the biggest military in history at its door step once israel attacks i doubt iran will put up much a fight america wont chance a drawn out war thats why we have 5 air craft carriers new by lolol
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Iran is not going to back down. And the economy of the world as we know it will take a downfall if Israel bombed Iran nuclear facilities. Iran will show of scenes of people suffering from such an attack that will make the suffering of the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki look small in comparison. Just use your imagination from the WWII era black and white photos to the 3-D color action features. And not to mention how Iran might retaliate on American soil in a big way. I wrote the novel ‘Twin in Arms’ to prevent the Ayatollahs’ sleeper cells from such attack.
1. Most posters are not putting forward a rational argument to make a case for US involvement in Iran.
2. We, general public, are not preview to US intelligence. So it is a moot point to discuss what action US should take.
3. Most of the postings are eerily similar leading up to war on Iraq.
4. US have to decide whether there is enough information to declare an unprovoked war.
5. US have to decide whether to be at war with 3 Muslim countries at the same time.
6. Can US withstand Israel lobby to take a right decision based on US interest.
7. If one does not understand the power of Jewish lobby, any discussion will be incomplete.
8. One has to distinguish the manifestation of Israel's internal politics and the workings of a coalition government.
9. Any such discussion could go forward only if labels such as anti-Semitism are refrained.
10. Zakaria is a realist. A tradition in international relations, which has members such Kissinger, Scowcroft and Brzezinski to name a few. None of them made statements supporting for US military action. Kissinger resisted Israel lobby during his White House/State Department years. If you may recall some of Kissinger’s statements have been attributed as anti-Semite.
11. US administration, if it were to follow a realist tradition, would not attack Iran at the moment. However, it should be pointed out that Iran is a signatory of NPT; Israel is not. While it may sound hypocritical, it is a choice that Iran made.
12. Iran can do 2 things legally. As signatory of NPT, Iran is legally bound for allowing UN inspector to all its nuclear facilities without any restrictions. They have not done so. What now?
13. Iran can legally withdraw from NPT as N. Korea did in 2003. In essence, Iran is saying that it has become a nuclear weapon state. Iran would prefer to be in NPT to keep ambiguity in its nuclear ambition. Otherwise, it is telling the world, please attack us.
14. Israel has stated many a times that if Iran were to procure a nuclear weapon the Jewish state will be annihilated.
15. Now if Israel believes that an Iranian state with nuclear weapon(s) is an existential threat then it has to use its nuclear weapons to attack Iran.
16. It has not yet. So Iran does not have one yet.
17. One has to point out Bush administration explored in such detail with its decision to go war with Iraq. Of course, they relied on bad intelligence and were set on going to war regardless.
18. I think it is US interest in the long-term to guide Israel to a make right decision. If Israel attacks, with or without US support, invariably US will be blamed.
19. US should not get caught between Sunni and Shia debate. It is for the Muslims to deal with.
20. Saudi Arabia is against Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon then why doesn’t it attack Iran. It is closer to Iran and Israel is. But it wants US to do it.
21. Now we have to remember Saudis were part of oil embargo to the west in the 70s.
22. How would we know what will happen in the next 20-25 years.
23. I think Israel and US master plan should be to orchestra a Saudis attack on Iran. Again only the US can do that.
24. How does Palestine problem fits in all of these? Here is where the debate stops..
I don't understand why the US has to stick their nose in all the time? Whenever there's a problem with other countries, there we are. The government needs to let them take care of their own messes. As long as they arent bothering us, who cares?
Prior to posting any further comments/opinions I strongly recommend everyone to watch the following debate from the Council of Foreign Relations regarding attacking Iran. Although, the debate is still heavily biased towards what would be best for US, not safety, but rather geopolitical interests in the region. It is clear that the dialogue among experts in the field, even those biased against Iran, more closely echoes Dr. Zakaria’s position, rather than the popular rhetoric displayed elsewhere. The outrage that this CNN piece has contrived is a clear testament to the constant bombardment of propaganda and manipulation of public opinion that has many people here convinced of a false-truth.
Youtube search:
Foreign Affairs LIVE: Time to Attack Iran? A Debate aDDP7r7FolA
For instance, I am certain many people here truly believe that Ahmadinejad has called for the destruction of Israel through his infamous misquote “Israel should be wiped off of the map”. This was a purposeful misquote of “The regime currently occupying Israel should vanish from the pages of time”, which calls for regime change within Israel rather than complete obliteration as many warmongers would manipulate you to believe. The fact that the Iranian regime has repeatedly supported a Two-State solution, attest to the fact that they do in fact acknowledge the state of Israel. If the Iranian regime (as oppressive as it can be to its own population) wanted to have another holocaust, why is it home to the second largest population of Jews within the Middle East (some 250 000 Persian Jews) and even has a Jewish representative in Parliament.
Youtube search:
Jews in Iran – Australian TV – 1/2 z2Skmj8q0Wg
Jews in Iran – Australian TV – 2/2 PbkmHf3jZUo
Lastly for the majority of you who don’t have the slightest clue of what life is like in Iran. The following is a video of the youth of Tehran and their underground nightlife, which thrives despite the oppressive Islamic regime.
Youtube search:
Tehran Persian Nights 7y_AqbcGFGg
(Please note this may become a double post, as my initial one posted 1 hour ago has still not made it through).
I encourage you to become independent thinkers and search the sources of information prior to deriving such passionate positions. Particularly when it comes to such delicate and dangerous issues.
Irans destiny is to control the Middle East. We are the regional superpower, and will only be treated as equals. If Israel dares attack, we will make Israel burn. If attacked by Europe, we will make European cities burn. If America attacks, the American cities will burn. The Middle East will not be under the control of infidels. America is now weak, and no longer controls the world. It is time again for the Persian Empire to rise, and to take its place as a force.
I would like to have a movie dinner and a beer when Israel bombs Iran. Iran will become a snake without venom and the mullahs will become skunks, bad smell, no action.
Tariq is obviously not Persian and only serving as a troll to ignite further unhealthy discourse.
The name Tariq itself is an Arabic one, not Persian, which speaks to the underlying ignorance of the commentator.
You make your point in the absence of the Iranian regimes clear threat to destroy Israel... this threat from the Iranian leadership cannot be ignored in respect to Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon..
Why do US politicians kowtow to the right wing Likud party? They don't even represent the majority opinion in Israel. Didn't listening to neocons like Wolfowitz, Feith, Perlman and Abrams just get us into war that was not in the interest of the US?
What we fail to forget is the whole Picture...... September 11 is in the eyes of many people quite possibly a false flag .... then just after this we have George Bush ... and his " Axis of evil " Speech ,,, then Afgnaistan ( Taliban ) was attacked . and then Iraq ....... naturally Iran is very nervous......They just dont know where they stand. ????.... and then they started to tell the world they are going produce Nuclear Fuel for Energy and Isotopes....But in effect .. they are quite possibly trying to create there own nuclear weapon. to be used as a deterrent themselves.. to prevent themselves from being attacked..... but if we go back to the George bush speech.. Iran was also on the radar.. one could say 2 down one to go.. but to effectively accomplish the down fall of Iran.. ( part 3 in George Bushes axis of evil challenge ).. i believe the whole situation which has engulfed Libya Egypt Tunisia and finally Syria . could be be part of some Bigger plan at getting at Iran .... As we see now Syria is under pressure and its just a question of time before Assad will give in and we all Know Syria is an alliie of Iran .....The plan could also be instead of using military means , they could be trying to create a Revolution of change from With in Iran because this would save Money, political suicide back at home and also be seen as the easiest option on getting regime change in Iran.......
The repercussions of Syria Falling might help in the momentum which is needed to create political change also in Iran the same as it has done in Eygpt Libya Syria which we have all witnessed lately......
The Whole wave of change which we have seen in North Africa and Syria recently . could be a false flag operation with goal at getting at Iran ....
but the major question if September the 11 was a cover up is whats the Goal of it all by attacking Afganistan Iraq Iran and north Korea ( North Korea was thrown as a decoy )
agree IndependentThinker...
The story of our lifetime, if we could close the gaps between the differences of the three great monotheistic religions than I believe the World would be a better place to live in and would be no need for nukes. It seems hate and mistrust dictates the hearts and the mind of the three faiths. We must find a way before it’s too late. We had enough death of innocent people in the Middle East and more to come if we don’t find a way out, at least, to respect one another.
I find myself in disagreement with Mr. Zakaria often, partly because his analysis at times lacks rigor. Not in this instance.
Setting aside disagreement on minor details, the broad brush analysis is unusually clear-headed, simple, and understandable to most impartial and unconvinced Americans who wish to gain a clearer view of the standoff. NIcely done!
Adolph Hitler told the world what he was going to do, and the world chose not to believe him. For this the world and the Jews paid a terrible price. Now Zakaria tells us not to believe the Iranians when they say Israel must be destroyed, and do not believe them when they are openly showing off their long range missiles.
Zakaria agrees with General Dempsey saying Iran is a “rational actor” defining the term as, “someone who is concerned about survival.” Zakaria, however, fails to make the distinction between the Iranian people and leadership. This is the leadership that ruthlessly subdued its own people when they protested the 2009 elections, and who is now supporting Syria’s Assad in massacring his own people? And this is the leadership that used Iranian children as young as twelve years old to clear mine fields during the Iran-Iraq war.
No country, including the United States, would relinquish its ability to protect itself to someone else. Yet, that is what would happen if Israel does not strike within its limited window of opportunity. Zakaria chooses to make light of this saying that it is all about the elections. But then, he also thinks that India and Pakistan having nuclear weapons is a good thing.
No one whould listen to Zakaria anyway. He is not that smart when it comes to foreign affairs. Israel should and will bomb Iran when it feels the threat is getting critical and the mullahs will get what they deserved long time ago, to go back to the stone age. But wait, they will get a prize , the 17 virgins. May be they are inspiring Zakaria.
One of the things that makes us a great country is our ability to attract people of the caliber of Dr. Zakaria to become Americans. Sadly, we don't get enough of them to offset the too many native born bigots and morons who so proudly vent their prejudices and ignorance, and their hypocrisy. I'm willing to bet very few if any of those calling for war with Iran is willing to volunteer themselves or their children for the effort, or agree to pay higher taxes to support it.
To folks who don't like what Fareed has to say, let's consider this:
1.Ahmadinejad, as much an idiot as he is, NEVER said he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. He said (translated) "Israel's tyrant regime belongs in the pages of history....". From this AIPAC, Mosad and its Sayyans (in US, these are American citizens who spy ON AMERICANS and ANYONE else for Mosad/israel) came up with their own version;
2. Listen to Zakaria's reasoning of why the logic is flawed about a "nuclear arms race" in the Middle East if Iran gets 'the bomb". It makes sense and it's logical;
3. Of all the nations involved, in this discussion, the only nation that continually has killed civilians from other countries, and by far a higher number than has shed the blood of its own civilians, is....drum roll please: Israel.
4. AIPAC, Mosad and its Sayyans were the source of information to us about Iraq owning WMDs. It's been over TEN years and still NOT one WMD has been found in Iraq. Ergot, consider the source of information and see who's beating the drums of war.
5. Last but certainly not least, I don't want any more American blood shed. If "Israel Is Real", as the shirts read, let them find their own darn wars!
I have this Feeling CNN is a propaganda tool........ not just used to give us information . but also to be aimed at putting pressure on Iran and Syria.... there seems this immense interest in Syria at the moment ??? ..i feel that CNN might be a cover for some other third party.. make no doubt people here and there are watching what CNN is s saying....this Cnn Coverage on homs is deinitely negative for Assad..... i just feel that possibly Syria is being get at with the Ultimate goal of getting regime change in iran... and Cnns covergae is definitely helping with the propaganda war against Syria. with ultimate goal of getting at Iran through syria´s regime change
Go Mccain. He is the only person this country can depend on when pus comes to shove. Obama is as spineles as they come. If he didn't have Hilary the chinese and russians would have walked all over him.
I don't understand. Is Zakaria asking Isreal not to rush to defend itself? Iran has called Isreal a "stinking corpse," and a "cancerous tumor [...that] should be removed from the region." It is a farce to believe that Iran will give up its nuclear weapon ambitions. Iran is not just building a facility but technology. If Isreal continues to wait, it won't matter if the facility is destroyed because Iran will have developed the technology and can start over or sell it. Iran is not only a a threat to Isreal, but to the U.S. and the world. They are responsible for the deaths of many of our service men and women across the world and continue to fund and support terrorist. What FANBOY Zakaria is really saying is for Isreal not to rush to attack Iran before the November elctions because it could complicate matters for Obama.
zakaria should go advise his indian brothers not us. We don't need his advice especially when to bomb Israel.
The Arabs and Persians are beggars still living off a past glory. The path to war was long predicted by Carters National Security Advisor. This is about oil and always has been. We are the Saudis, we are the Arabs/Persians, we are the Jews. Who controls the oil...Controls the world.
Would an attack on Iran by anyone not be against internationals laws of some sort?
One of his most lopsided articles yet...
its safe to say iran already has nuclear warhead and thanks to obama's incompetence they have a failing america's latest drone technology to carry them to america....
I love you Zakaria....happy to see a person of your intellect and 'point of view'....expressing opinions....Love the fact you have a 'foreign name' and dark skin...I'm 'white'....:)
Fareed, in demanding Israel negotiate with Iran, you assume Ahmadinijad is an honorable trustworthy person when he is not. You saw what he did to protesters who took to the street in opposition of a clearly rigged election. The Iranian government went into hospitals to murder protesters who were defenseless. And you think we can trust such a person? You claim he has no nuclear weapons, but have no source to back you up. You trust someone like Ahmadinijad to tell you he has no nukes? You see what he did to his own people and you expect him to treat Israel any differently in any so called good faith negotiations? You are either a subversive, an illogical dangerously naive uneducated simpleton or both.
Rather than insult the man, why don't you just disagree with him? Unless you are a simpleton.
Insulting me in your false allegation that I insulted is about as coherent as Fareed thinking Ahmadinijad is trustworthy. I made my points. You chose to ignore them. Go howl at the moon wolfman.
The problem remains exactly the same every time a new nation joins the club. "Okay, so you have a weapon. Exactly what are you going to do with it?"
If ever there has been an irrational character with nukes, it would be North Korea, and yet they have done nothing to date beyond declare how wonderful they are. India and Pakistan both have weapons, but seem to understand, as everyone else has figured out, that they simply can't use them. So...they spent a lot of money developing what is essentially a useless technology.
The question for Iran is the same: If you do build one, what can you possibly do with it?
At some point is Iran irrational enough to attempt to use it against Israel? If so, it means several things. First, Israel is physically small enough that a few nukes would essentially total the place. On the other hand, it is likely that every other nation in the region would immediately turn against Iran. It's also likely that Israel could get off a shot of their own, and Iran might just cease to exist too. Clearly the rest of the world, even China and Russian won't be backing that play.
So...ultimately, we still have the same question: Is Iran, and/or its leadership, willing to commit national suicide with that hope that they can take Israel with them. There are no other considerations, because the outcome is a simply Yes or No.
A voice of reason in a wilderness madness, thank you!
Fareed Zakaria is on the Iranian Payroll!!!
LOL and I used to think Arabs were silly pointing fingers at people calling them Zionists or something different without any base for the statement...But you guys are no less >.<. Lets just point fingers at people and accuse them negatively for their point of views.
Why is everyone worried about Iran getting a nuke, Israel has around 400 nuke weapons and can defend its self.
Any nation who would attack Israel as to threaten its existence, would be committing suicide.
I am tired of people trying to make us the worlds policeman, America needs to mind its own business and worry about its self for a change.
A small scale nuke war in the MidEast would solve a many centuries old problem permanently for the rest of us who want peace!
Israel is not geographically big enough to have 400 nukes...it would implode. Plus it nukes are supplied by mail order with some refills allowed.
Now, we all want peace in this world and it is evident that a new leadership is needed in the world and that appears to be China. All we need is a ring kissing ceremony and cut through years of BS. First to go should be India who should kneel down and kiss Don Chung and hand over some northern territories as homage. rest will follow.
Implode, how so?
Nuke weapons come in many sizes and applications, they al aren't on missle delivery systems.
Oh dear allah, implode?, better not tell the Jews. It will be our Joke. ahahahha
Correction. when to bomb Iran
PAKISTAN.....The New Gateway to Central Asia and Europe.
With a population of over 180 million most of whom are well educated, English speaking, entrepreneurial and a cultural and social fit with Central Asians...Pakistan will now become the new face and gateway to Central Asia and Europe. Pakistan will thus span this region and provide the impetus for growth, prosperity and unity among these countries. These are new and exciting times for Pakistanis who should now look forward to their new leadership role aligned with Central Asia and Europe rather than the Subcontinent. We wish them much success as they have sacrificed the most during the past 30 + years creating a new world order.
Don't even bother read his articles. He is nobody.
A 'nobody'...of course...he has a 'funny' name and dark skin...
LOL, you guys are jokes. You accuse Mr. Zakaria of being an Obama puppet below a piece in which Mr. Zakaria disagrees with everything Mr. Obama has said: the potential of a nuclear arms race in the Middle East, the India-Pakistan analogy, and the possibility of Iranian nukes falling into the hands of terrorists.
Sorry, but you guys really need to do your homework.
Please don't confuse these folk with the facts. They hate Obama and Fareed and that's that. No need to have anything reasonable to add to the debate. Well Fareed and Obama aren't white , they have names which aren't Anglo or European so I guess they must be a threat to the US. The only problem being that they've both contributed more to the US in both deed and spirit than the majority of ignorant haters commenting here. Let's see now, Obama is a stooge of the arabs, iranians, africans, wall street, socialists, muslims, europeans. Did I leave anyone out. And Fareed is a stooge of CNN, the Iranians, Pakistani's, elite, socialist, blah, blah , blah. Many commenters here are pathetic in their ignorance and prejudice.
This ship has sailed. We've said, unequivocally, that they will not have them. If we cave now, you might as well wipe your behind with the non-proliferation treaty. If Iran can get away with pretending to be a signatory while covertly developing weapons, or even weapons capability, and gets away with it, what case do we have for denying anyone else who wants to do the same?
Iran has not actually ratified that treaty, In any event, the Iranians are not joined in the hip with the said treaty. I believe that Iran has every right to develop a nuclear weapon and its delivery system like anyone else including the state of Israel.
I'll like to see an argument for a complete dis- armament of the whole world from nukes and middle east in particular. Israel should lead in the middle east before halting Iran's project. I think Iran already has the nuclear technology anyway. The horse has long bolted!
Whoever supports a war on Iran will not get my vote. This government is blood hungry.
wellllllllllllllllll, whether you vote for ahmadinedork or not is of no concern to me.
Why is Iran a threat?
10% Approve of Congress. (Lowest Rating in almost 40 years of conducting this poll) Source: Gallop
11% Approve of Iran. Source: Gallop
Habibi, I do not know why Iran a threat? Apart from the constant, violent threats to all members of the Jewish faith and allies, they never say or do anything bad. I just dont get it.
And, then, of course there is the threat to blockade the transport of oil to the world. But apart from that, I really do not understand why we think Iran is a time bomb.
Also, there is the threat to kill all Sunnis. But, I still do not understand how that could be construed as something bad. Honestly!
Okay, last one, could it be the brutal repression of its own population. But, still, I do not understand how Iran could be so bad.
Iran should be pushed into ruin. It's ports should be mined, airstrips and oil fields bombed, roads and bridges blown up and all of it's accounts should be frozen or attacked. Iran likes to play games of procrastination, then by all means, everyone should play the same game with Iran and let this go on indefinitely while peace negotiations drag on until the regine is destroyed.
"and the regime is destroyed" and, unfortunately, peace loving citizens will be collateral damage.
If Israel is threatened by Iran, they should deal with the problem themselves. With hundreds of nuclear weapons and a military that is unchallenged in the region, they're more than capable. But leave the United States out of it. If Israel's security is to be our responsibility, how about they start paying us for the privilege of American military protection instead of us subsidizing THEM with billions of dollars per year?
The responsibility of the government of the United States is to protect and defend the people of the United States. If Israel tries to manipulate America into launching a preemptive war on its behalf, there will be a serious backlash. The Israelis, as well as the warmongers running for the Republican nomination (Ron Paul excluded) underestimate how sick the American people are of these bloody, costly, unnecessary wars in the Middle East.
Divide and Conquer is a game that is played by intellects–not you habibi. You too stoopid.
Half the people on here claim Zakaria is a stooge for Iran, and the other half claim he is a stooge for Israel. Sounds to me like that means he's pretty close to the truth.
Captain, well said. There are a lot of yahoos out here who think Fareed is Muslim and Arab. As though even if he were that somehow would prove something.
If we cannot afford to fund Pell Grants, Social Security, etc... , we cannot afford to go into another war. The Republicans are just war crazy...
It's too late - we should have attacked in 1979.
Alright, seriously people? The amount of ignorance and sheer racism on this discussion is truly disgusting. I only got about ten percent of the way through all the comments before I couldn't take it anymore. Islam as a religion is one of the most peaceful in the world, and I say this as an atheist. People always try and make it seem horrible due to the extremists but the same could be said about Christianity during the crusades/Spanish inquisition. A religion in and of itself cannot be bad, it is what followers do with it and warp it that can make something a "reason" for committing acts of violence and terror.
I also cannot believe that amount of people calling for the US to drop a nuke in the Middle East. How can people be so insensitive? A nuclear weapon is one of the most devastating weapons ever to be developed and has lasting consequences. Although there are radicals in some middle eastern countries that wish to cause harm to the western world, the vast majority of people in these countries are just that, people. They have the same worries, thoughts, and emotions that everyone else in the world feels. To have some people in this discussion brand these people as inhuman monster just because they practice Islam is the same thing that the Nazis did in WWII with the Jewish people. Has humanity really learned nothing from the past?
I believe that no nation wants to destroy itself, as the article defines this as "rational actors." The ruling governments of all states, yes even those in the middle east, are there to govern and guide their society as they deem the best, and while in some cases, their values do not align themselves with that of the western world, we in the western world need to understand and respect their views. Only through understanding, respect and communication can the world start to work out its differences.
Evan, you are absolutely right and this is the sense of globalization the world is going toward. But unless we stop this biased behavior and favoritism toward Israel, we will only raise the Arab Spring children to hate us more and more. We are playing our fate in the hand of some minorities of Zionists who do not recognize the Palestinians people and refuse to give them their rights. We are blindly helping an apartheid regime in the Middle-East. But history taught us that this kind of regime will not go on forever without meeting its end. If we do not steer our foreign policy, then the new generations of the Arab spring will find a way to free their brothers in Palestine. Not before too long, I am afraid.
this is the most idiotic video i ever watched ,and that's all i'm going say
Seriously? Okay then!
Thank You for a reasoned, intelligent article. There is absolutely NO reason to go to war with Iran, period. Those screaming for war are the same neocons who screamed mushroom clouds when they wanted to go to war with Iraq... and look where that got us. Have we learned NOTHING? This is the classic definition of insanity. If you cant see that... then you are drinking from the same coolaid.
We have no reason to go to war with Iran. Afterall, Iranian Islamists are all fun loving, pot smoking peaceniks.
Faridi,
Israiel has an opportunity and like they have donenit for the past 60 years use USA to kill more innocent Muslims. Believe me this will catch up with them. They are not interested in piece. God willing ... Isriel will pay a very heavy price all the innocent blood it has
That is correct Abdul. all that 6 million Jews want to do is kill, kill, kill all mulslims.
I believe in the late 1930s there were much the same type of arguments about Hitler and how he really didn't pose much of a threat..... and treaties with Hitler would assure that neighboring countries would not be invaded or occupied. Does anyone really think we can trust the madman Ahmadinejad?
Bob, you can use that example to justify any invasion or pre-emptive strike you wish. I guess that since Hitler (and Stalin) didn't respect treaties that we should have no more treaties and just get on with invading whoever we feel like.
Or how about just the crazy ones that want to annhilate others
Faridi,
Israiel has this big opportunity to blackmail US like they have done for the past 60 years. They are not about to pass it up specially a weak black US President. God willing ... Isriel will pay a very heavy price for all the innocent blood it will shed... It will catch up with them.
Blackmail is defined as: Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information. Enlighten us of Mahdi, what does Israel have on America?
How does him being a "black" president have any importance to relations between the US, Israel, and Iran other than to prove your distaste for black people? Did you ever define Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, or the other 40 odd presidents as "white" presidents?
Ed, the least you can do is learn to spell the names of the people and countries you so like to insult.
Reading some of these comments I've come to the conclusion that many of the commentators are more blood thirsty than the Iranians and for that matter on about the same level as the most crazed Jihadist. You want another war? You want more debt? You want to kill more innocent civilians? Have you learned nothing? You, not people like Zakaria, are turning the world against the U.S.A.! You scare me more than the Iranians! You're freakin' crazy!!
Very well put. It's so easy to be a tough guy when you don't have to do anything but hurl insults and express your rage.
We really need to go back to the draft and require some of these morons to give their lives for their brilliant ideas
Nice to hear a voice of sanity on this issue. The political hay that the Republicans are trying to make out of this in the primary is disgraceful. Worse, even.
yep the voice of REASON.
Why some people think that Zakaria is supposed to write the way they want? He is a great journalist and political specialist about the middle east. If his ideas aren't in favor of you guys, either accept it as a different idea than yours or just switch the channel to Fox news and you will be good!
Fareed Zakaria's opinion on this issue is not that unique. in fact, i hear most foreign policy writers express about the same sentiment from the foreign affair, the economist, etc..
iran has 1/14 of US GDP and no modern military. But their land is vast with mountains with 80 million modernized people.
They are not at all like Afghans or Saudis. Israel has modern military but a small land with 8 million people (with Muslim minority).
America with the strongest military and biggest GDP and 300 million people on the other side of the ocean should not be afraid of Iran, though America has the right to be concerned about the region as Europeans and Asians.
I think once America pull their men out of Afghanistan, things could get cooled down. It's not like Iran like Talibans there. But i dont know what will happen to Israel in the midst of Arab Spring.
Nuclear weapon is just hardware. the issue is israel acting too aggressively toward Arab nations and Iran with help from US even when US does not want it to be so.
Their illegal settlements continues. Israel provoked wars with their next door nations while Iran never started a war themselves. Surey Iran sent terrorists around the world but so do Israel, killing their scientists
If Iran is not rational, neither is US or Israel. I don't support any of the nations on this.
Fareed Zakaria's analysis is spot on.
Solution is to get agreement on a Nuclear Free Middle East. This proposal has been made already some time ago. Guess who is DOES NOT want such a Nuclear Free Middle East. Right it is Israel. Why, because they have 200+ nuclear weapons. Who distabalizes the ME??? Which country has WMD??? Which country does not sign the NPT?
Which counrtry does NOT allow inspections of the IAEA? Just search the web and find the answers.
Why should the Arabs have any fear of Iran. Iran has not attacked ANY ARAB STATE. It is Israel which had PREEMPTIVELY attacked Egypt and had wars with the Arabs. The Arabs have MORE REASONS to fear a NUCLEAR ISRAEL than a nuclear Iran. And those who argue otherwise are either STUPID or SIMPLY BIASED.
President Obama agrees with this analysis but keeps up the magniloquence for political reasons at home as much as abroad. Bibi's belligerent ambitions are as dangerous as Ahmadinejad's antagonistic provocations. Both should not be given consideration...nor a country to run.
hey guys peel off your onion layers and try to absorb this
lets all give each other the right to Live and stop hating.
Hamdullilah, someone sees clearly.
Why cant we all be friends.
The USA must do what it has to.Put more drones in to the sky and get rid of the extremists and the al Qaeda militants.
Obama's policy of full support to Israel while applying economic and diplomatic pressure on Iran is the correct one. The Middle East poses multiple problems and requires a complex and sophisticated stategy.
respected, Mr. Fareed Zakaria Garu, U S and Israel will strike on Iran and his counter part , they will spent much of money and much of lives for that strategy, But U S concerns Elections will held shortly, so Mr. Obama speaks will not accept congress. In this situation Isreal is invisible.
Israel Has Every Right to Defend Itself
It seems very reasonable and rationable arguments. The attack against Iran will be a historic mistake. I think it is enough just to monopolize the public opinion. What USA need is the comprehensive and preventive diplomacy in Nuclear Iran. Otherwise it will be catostrophic.
It seems very reasonable
You so reasonable, how could all those stupid Americans no understand.
I don't think sanctions will have a meaningful effect on the regime in Iran. They are withstanding sanctions, international pressure and continue to enrich uranium, build centrifuges, develop intercontinental missiles. The Ayatollah is also a religious fanatic . I also don't think unilateral action by Israel or the US is a runner. Because the US won't do it, ad it does not want Israel to do it. But the US has to know that sanctions, despite the propaganda and time-buying tactics from Iran, will not work. The only solution I believe is for an international alliance for global stability. This alliance means a true common approach from Russia, China, Europe and the US and it can be backed up with a military dimension, meaning that if Iran were to ever use a nuclear weapon against any member of this alliance that it would be an attack on all and that Iran can expect a co-ordinated retaliation. However if Iran were to continue on their path then the alliance would take out the regime in the interests of global stability. There would be limited blow-back from this as it would be a truly international operation, with Chinese boots on the ground for example. Its not so far-fetched as the international community really believes that Iran with a nuclear weapon is a dangerous prospect, as evidenced by previous security council votes. It just requires both the will to make compromises to get this done and the realization that the current approach will not work.
Another option of course is for the Arab League or Gulf Council to take action together, which would have nothing to do with Israel. But I don't think this would be an ideal option due to the after-math within Iran.
Very well said! I love how you captured and used your words in this article. Just watched it on CNN as well. I wish this point of view could be shared vastly through out other media channels so as to reach as many people as possible! Great work!
And then, I would give you BJ real good Abdul.
the real question is iran willing to face total annihaltion for their people and nation in bombing isreal? are they willing to kill not just isreal but themselves in this process? jihadi's aside i don't think they are willing to destroy their entire selves just blow up the jews knowing they would not even get them all. yes isreal would be wiped off the map but they also dropped on allies(the palistinians) and so lose credibility with their allies. i don't think the power brokers of iran want lose their tenuous hold on what little power they have. also if they believe in the power of war over reason they know they are outgunned by all sides. suicide for an individual is acceptable to them, suicide of their power is not.
What I find funny is that America has had a long history of remaining neutral in global conflicts, we had to be drug into WWI and WWII. But in the last 60 years, we have been sticking our noses in places all over the world. People act like it is the American way to flex our muscles and throw down a fight. But really, that is only a recent phenomenon that America should act a the world's police. I think politics need to be removed from our war mongering, and we should not have one side saying we should go to war just because the other side says we shouldn't. We all know that if Obama was beating his chest at Iran and calling for bombings, that the republican candidates would be crying about spending on another war and American imperialism. I am just so tired of the endless games in our political system, it makes all of us look foolish.
Does it matter what anyone says about Iran. Iran is not a threat to U.S, so I am not a traitor to start or support a war against Iran on behalf of anyone.
Prior to an attack on Isreal, Iran needs to ask where are the Isreali submarines. One submarine equipped with nuclear weapons can destroy Iran days, weeks or months after the annihilation of Isreal.
Good thinking Abdul. Call ahmadinadork and ask him to destroy all Israel submarine real quick. Oh oops, I guess we shouldn't say these things in our outloud voices. Sorry!
Attack Iran now. No foot soldiers, rather Cruise missiles. Bases and center of government. then lets the tribes fight amongst themselves.
WoW!! can some one speak the truth to Washington like Zakaria did? I am afraid soon you will be victim of AIPAC.
Yeah, sure thing Abdul, because you say so, I am sooooooo scared. Without you Abdul, I would not know what to think. hehehe....
TRAITORS – beating the WAR drum.
Patriot – whistling Dixie.
Wow sir you sure dont really know that Iran is a threat that must be eliminated, but as I seen you are with Obama, and your name sounds like your muslim which means your an Anti Zionist Muslim. Case close.
Case Closed.
We grew a custom to the Israeli aggressions whenever the time for U.S. elections. As always, a U.S. president must show his loyalty and pledge the allegiance to AIPAC and to keep his mouth shut while Israelis using our F-16 to massacre humanity. I thought these are the same people who despised Hitler because he was doing the same thing to them! As our ex-president Jimmy Carter made it clear in his book, our government is elected by AIPAC and a U.S. president/Congress must pledge allegiance to the Israeli flag instead of America. Our economy is depilated for the sake of Israel and its wars. My son joint the army to fight for America not Israel and he already promised me that he will not fight in Iran and die in Iran for the sake of Israel. Every U.S. president candidate must promise and show his loyalty to Israel and his willingness to attack other countries on behalf of illegitimate country like Israel. Israel is claiming to be a peace loving nation at the same time occupying Palestine and massacring the Palestinians since Israel conception in 1948. History is very clear that there was nothing called Israel until England helped the Jewish people to take over Palestine. You can read the "Balfour Declaration" by the prime minister of England at that time Arthur James Balfour promising a Jewish homeland in Palestine before Israel existence which will shed some light on Israel love for wars.
Good Heavens!
Israeli in Upper Galilee
Fareed: Your argument presumes that Iran is a rational actor. But what we know of Iran and its internal workings leads many (including me) to believe that Iran is NOT a rational actor, and Iran specifically could execute a nuclear first strike on Israel at any time. Iran would not need any further reason beyond the reasons which already exist. A nation controlled by religious zealots is not a nation any of us want possessing nuclear weapons!
Fareed makes some really good points, however, Iran has not acted very rationally lately. Sloppy covert plots with poorly trained individuals makes me think otherwise. I believe on the whole Iran will act rationally but it puts some of its actions in the hands of irresponsilbe ppl which makes me nervous about their program. I do not think for a second that Iran would detonate a device themselves but I wouldnt put it past them to give it to someone else....
Fareed, got some gifts from government of Iran and well served in the best hotels and restaurants in Tehran when he had a trip to Iran and now is playing roll of pro-Iran and anti-Israel sentiment.
Why Farred is supporting this unwanted regime that breaks the foot and hand of students and hang up any body that requested democracy in Iran? This government is void from the Iranian point of view and is a big trouble maker for all region...they support the terrorist to kill USA army and explode the bomb to terror the child and women to be safe from attack of USA.
I love watch GPS and love the topics and guest that Fareed invites. But yesterday he made some very important points about an argument for Israel to not attach Iran, including unconfirmed intelligence, that it would ignite the neighbor, and others in the area have nuclear and it has not begun a nuclear race, and manyh other convincing points except Fareed left out one important fact: Iran had said Israel needs to be wiped off the face of the map. That not reason enough?
Regime of Iran wanted to attack Israel and be number one in middle east. For this reason they wanted nuclear weapon....that all the story ....
This Fareed guy is really stupid THey have threatened to wipe isreal off the face of the earth. "Why" Well if you dont know why then your a real idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, like we believe you are Jewish because you call yourself Jacob. And, you advocate violence. This makes you an Islamists trash. You should not try and judge people by your own standards Abdul.
it is time to take stand aganist Iran terrorizim and aggression, and aganist syrian shiia thugs aggression and Iraqi shiia thugs killers those are helping hizboallah and all terror group with money and russia send the weapons to those shiia thugs from iran, iraq and syria to destroy lebanon, bahrain hamas iraqi sunni and syrian sunni today along those shiia thugs killed 150 women and children just because they are sunni , this is what shiia islam all about, and make no mistake when those shiia evil gets the nic weapoins they will use it, YOU HAVE TO UNDESTAND WHY,,,THE SHIIA WANT TO SEE WAR, CAIOUS , ADULTERY AND KILLING BECAUSE THEY BELIVE THAT AL MAHDI AL MONTADHAR WHAT SO CALLED SHIIA MASAIA WILL APPEAR WHEN THAT HAPPEN...THEY ARE PURE EVIL BEILEVE IN THIS EVIL MAN CALLED THE INVIBLE MASSAIA...
If the Obama administration is avoiding war with Iran. Thank goodness!!! I don't think Iran, the USA or the world can afford another conflict. The entire world is in some indirect way facing the consequences of wars and conflicts that could have been avoided altogether.
i used to watch GPS and though he is most brain person in the world, but iam so sorry about my past knoladge about Farid,. it is not same , as Iran and world, , its not right to compair with india and Pakistan. both country has neku. before last sunday i always thougth Zakariya is middle, he is best;' s bast; but iam sorry for me, how much i am wrong. it is clear that Farid Zakariya wants Iran to Make Nuke, so world will be same power as Iran, so sorry for Farid's Mind,
iam so sorry for my english,
You seem to be forgetting that Iran has on numerous occasions threatened to destroy Israel. Now they're building a weapon to help them do so. Israel would be foolish to ignore the threat, they have been warned.
And no, the Arab countries care not a fig about the Palestinians, if they had, they would have absorbed the refugees 60 years ago, like Israel did of the Jews that were expelled from Arab countries.
Fareed Zakaria has been advocating a thoughtful and wise approach to Iran, rather than being swept up in a war fever which has been contrived for domestic political gain in Israel and in America. Here in the United States, we allowed ourselves to be pushed down the road to an unnecessary war in Iraq in 2003 by many of the same people doing the pushing today. We seem never to learn from our mistakes. Ironically, Iran is making the same mistake made by Saddam Hussein in 2002-03. There is no evidence that Iran has nuclear weapons, but Ahmadinejad foolishly thinks that playing cat-and-mouse games about inspections gives Iran regional clout.
Really? Really? You think Americans are that stupid. Why are you worried about Americans if they are so stupid. Come back Abdul.
Zakaria has the touch of reality in this case, War mongers, War profiteers, Zionists could achieve their goals by fighting another war but Americans will have to pay the price.
Yeah that right, Wink, Wink.
As you sow for others,some sows for you.
Remmber every thing has a end.
A sow is a girl pig, you know, like your mother.
Hi – I am not worried all that much, as you say, about being wiped off by the bomb itself but would anybody stop the Iranian army taking Iraq and Jordan and to us if a nuclear umbrella was possible. Never mind the oil states to the South. Everybody seems to forget we are the size of a pimple and our kids fight like the old Kamikazes as a result of our history. We will only survive through our hi-tech! Why does everybody think we are going to bomb them – there are so many other ways of destrying there evil plans although only by dreaming of their plants exploding can I fall asleep.
Northern Border, Israel
The Americans have not spilt a drop of blood for us ever and never will! They DID boycott us from 48-68 the period when we were attacked by 5 armies and had soldiers from the camps. We had to steal planes from ww2 lying around. We had 6 Piper Cubs!
Couldn't agree more that the US doesn't need another war in the Middle East, we desperately need the focus on our strengthening our economy and rebuild American strength in the global arena. However, I was amazed to hear Pakistan held up as an example of how a nuclear Iran would usher in peace in the Middle East due to the MAD principle. True India and Pakistan have not fought a full fledged war since 1971, but Pakistan has used the nuclear weapon as a shield for its blatant state terrorism including support for the Taliban, sponsoring major terrorist strikes against India from hijacking of IA713 in 2000, attack on Indian parliament to the infamous Mumbai terrorist attack. Pakistan's nuclear bombs have emboldened it by raising the specter of a nuclear exchange in response to any Indian military reaction to terrorist strikes by Pakistani proxies. This is the script Iran will follow in the Middle East, we already have a failed state that resorts to terror under the nuclear umbrella, I don't think we can afford another. Iran with a nuclear weapon will accelerate the destabilization of the Middle East and severely degrade US strategic options. I am surprised that Fareed missed this in his analysis, perhaps the ultra suave terrorist in a suit Gen. Musharraf is due on his show again
ناشطون سربوا آلاف الرسائل من بريد الأسد وزوجته أسماء (الفرنسية)
كشفت مجموعة من الرسائل الإلكترونية التي يعتقد بأنها تخص الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد وحصلت عليها صحيفة ذي غارديان البريطانية أنه تلقى خلال الثورة السورية نصائح وتوجيهات من إيران وجهات حليفة عن سبل مواجهة الانتفاضة الشعبية الواسعة التي تطالب برحيله عن السلطة.
وقبل كلمة الأسد -التي ألقاها عبر التلفزيون في ديسمبر/كانون الأول الماضي- تظهر الرسائل أنه تلقى مذكرة تحمل لائحة طويلة من الاقتراحات من مستشاره الإعلامي، الذي أوضح بأنه استشار بدوره "عددا لا بأس به من الشخصيات بالإضافة إلى المستشار السياسي للسفير الإيراني في دمشق".
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قام الأسد بتشكيل حلقة من المساعدين الثقاة الذين يرفعون تقاريرهم إليه شخصيا متخطيا بذلك الأجهزة الأمنية وأعضاء طائفته العلوية المتنفذة، الأمر الذي يعتبر تطورا هاما في طريقة عمل النظام السوري
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وقد تضمنت المذكرة نصيحة للأسد باستخدام لغة "قوية وعنيفة" في خطابه وأن يحرص على إظهار امتنانه من الدعم الذي تبديه "الدول الصديقة". كما نصحت المذكرة بأن يقوم الأسد بإظهار مدى القوة العسكرية التي تتمتع بها سوريا وأنها قادرة على مواجهة تحد عسكري.
كما كشفت الرسائل التي تم تنزيلها من قبل ناشطين سوريين من حسابات بريد إلكتروني خاصة بالأسد وزوجته السيدة أسماء، أن الأسد تلقى تقارير عن وجود صحفيين أجانب في حي بابا عمرو في حمص، وأصدر توجيهات بناء على ذلك في نوفمبر/تشرين الثاني الماضي تقضي بـ"تشديد القبضة الأمنية" على المدينة وبابا عمرو بالذات.
وتبين الرسائل أن الأسد خلال الانتفاضة السورية، قد قام بتشكيل حلقة من المساعدين الثقاة الذين يرفعون تقاريرهم إليه شخصيا متخطيا بذلك الأجهزة الأمنية وأعضاء طائفته العلوية المتنفذة، الأمر الذي يعتبر تطورا هاما في طريقة عمل النظام السوري، ومؤشرا على شعوره بالخطر الداهم.
وكانت الرسائل الإلكترونية التي تم رصدها تستخدم نظاما بريديا خاصا بموقع اسمه الشهباء دوت كوم، وهي مجموعة شركات تابعة للنظام السوري لها مكاتب في دبي ولندن. وقد تم اختراق نظام الرسائل الإلكترونية للموقع في شهر يونيو/حزيران الماضي واستمر الناشطون بالتمتع بدخول حر وكامل للحسابات البريدية ونسخ كل شيء موجود فيها. استمر هذا الوضع حتى تم اكتشاف الاختراق في فبراير/شباط الماضي أي بعد ستة أشهر.
وتلقي الرسائل الضوء على قيام الأسد بتشكيل لجنة من المستشارين لوضع إستراتيجية إعلامية وكيفية مواجهة موجة الانتقادات العالمية المتصاعدة ضد قمعه للانتفاضة الشعبية السورية المطالبة برحيله عن السلطة، والتي ذهب ضحيتها حوالي عشرة آلاف سوري إلى حد الآن حسب تقديرات حديثة.
وقد منح اختراق حسابات البريد الإلكتروني للأسد فرصة للناشطين لتحذير زملائهم في دمشق من نوايا النظام السوري في مناسبات عديدة.
وقد وفر الاختراق معلومات هامة وحساسة عن النظام السوري ورئيسه، ومن بينها رسائل من رجل أعمال لبناني يتمتع بصلات وثيقة مع النظام الإيراني وحزب الله اسمه حسين مرتضى. وقد قام مرتضى طبقا للرسائل بالكتابة إلى الرئيس الأسد بعد حادثة انفجار سيارتين في دمشق قبيل وصول المراقبين العرب، وحثّ مرتضى الأسد على التوقف عن اتهام القاعدة بتدبير انفجارات السيارات المفخخة، وأفاد مرتضى بأن اتصالات وردته من إيران وحزب الله توافقه الرأي ووصف اتهام القاعدة بأنه خطأ إعلامي تكتيكي يصب في مصلحة الولايات المتحدة والمعارضة السورية.
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رجل أعمال لبناني مقرب من إيران وحزب الله نصح الأسد بالسيطرة على الميادين والساحات العامة بين الساعة الثالثة عصرا والتاسعة مساء لحرمان المعارضين السوريين من فرصة التجمع
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وفي رسالة أخرى، أبدى مرتضى للأسد اعتقاده بأن على قوات النظام السوري السيطرة على الميادين والساحات العامة بين الساعة الثالثة عصرا والتاسعة مساء لحرمان المعارضين السوريين من فرصة التجمع.
يذكر أن إيران وحزب الله قد كانا متهمين طوال سنة -هي عمر الانتفاضة السورية ضد الأسد-، بأنهما يقدمان دعما عمليا على الأرض لنظام الأسد، مثل إرسال مقاتلين وخبراء تقنيين لتعقب الناشطين السوريين الذين يستخدمون الإنترنت، إلا أن كلا من إيران وحزب الله قد دأبا على إنكار تلك التهم.
من جهة أخرى كشفت المراسلات المسربة أن الأسد اعتمد بشكل كبير على امرأتين سوريتين درستا في الولايات المتحدة، في مجال الاستشارات الإعلامية. وتظهر المراسلات أن المرأتين هما شهرزاد الجعفري وهديل العلي واللتان دأبتا على إحاطة الأسد بأهمية التواصل على شبكة الإنترنت.
وكان التلفزيون السوري قد أفاد في فبراير/شباط بعد اكتشاف الاختراق وقبل نشر الرسائل المسربة أن العناوين الخاصة بموقع الشهباء دوت كوم لا تمت بصلة للرئيس الأسد وذلك في محاولة لنزع الثقة عن أي ترسيبات مستقبلية.
FK THE MULLAS TOWEL HEADS NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO L ATE. SYRIA AND IRAN SENDING WEAPONS TO THE TERRORISTS HIZBOALLAH ALONG WITH IRAQI NORI AL MALEKI THOSE EVIL SHIIA THUGS ARE TERROR GROUP , USA MUST GET RED OF THEM BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
nori al maleki of iraq = bashar of syria = hizboallah in lebanon= nejad in iran = russia= evil = terrorists
usa must get red of those shiia cult who want to destroy every body...dont allow shiia thugs to come here in usa and canada...those are terror group and there safe houses called hussaynia it is a place of prayer but they hide weapoins and cash in it
the afgani investigation and the international lab proved now that 15 usa soldiers was involved of killing more than 16 children and women, and that 15 soldiers ra pe 2 afgani ladies young ladies ra pe them repeatdley and then shot them dead and burned there bodies , exactley as it happened in iraq when usa soldiers ra ped 14 years old girl then shot her and shot her parents and brothers and burned there bodies ...usa did that in vitnam ,korea and many other places they are murderous thugs ra piest killers and OBAMA say soyy all the time!!?/while leaving evil iranians and evil syrian bashar al asad killing more civilians obama is a cowered president if obama want to fix this problem he must attack syria now and remove bashar al asad to show to the muslim world that he mean it, remove the evil in syria now and prove your point OBAMA.......why you are silent...SILENCE IS A CRIME.
References?????????????????
iraqi shiia are thugs
moqtada al sadder and mahdi militia the terrorists iraqi shiia let go one usa soldeir that they captured since 2011 and they say we let him go as free well juster !!!!!!why you captured him in the first place you peace of sh it shiia thugs , he was defending you ..why shiia killed many usa people in iraq and iran, becuase they are terrorists thugs...usa should start attacking bashar al asad in syria hizboallah , and iraqi shiia change those thugs and terrorists before we deal with iran, the time is for the shiia to be hit hard so they can give up arm and terrorizim...
التيار الصدري يفرج عن جندي أميركي
مقتدى الصدر أمر الجناح العسكري للتيار بالإفراج عن الرقيب هيلز (وكالة الأنباء الأوروبية) أفرج التيار الصدري السبت في بغداد عن أميركي قال إنه جندي محتجز منذ صيف عام 2011، وأوضح أن الافراج جاء "لأسباب إنسانية".
وقالت النائبة العراقية بالتيار الصدري مهى الدوري إن مقتدى الصدرأمر الجناح العسكري للتيار بالإفراج عن المواطن الأميركي، مضيفة أنه جندي يدعى راندي مايكل هيلز وهو رقيب متقاعد يبلغ من العمر 59 عاما.
كما ذكر مصدر بالتيار في النجف أن الافراج تم لأسباب إنسانية، لافتا إلى عدم حصول أي مفاوضات مباشرة أو غير مباشرة مع الأميركيين أو أي جانب آخر.
وأضاف المصدر نفسه أن الإفراج عن المواطن الأميركي يمثل بادرة حسن نية من زعيم التيار مقتدى الصدر للدلالة على "القيم الأخلاقية والإنسانية والعقائدية للمقاومة الإسلامية العراقية".
وسلم الجندي المفرج عنه إلى بعثة الأمم المتحدة في بغداد التي نقلته إلى السفارة الأميركية، وأكد المتحدث باسم السفارة أن هيلز مواطن أميركي دون تقديم مزيد من التفاصيل.
وفي تصريحات مقتضبة للصحفيين، قال هيلز إنه أرسل للعراق عام 2003، وعمل بادئ الأمر جنديا لمدة 15 شهرا.
وأضاف أنه ظل في العراق بصفة مدنية منذ ذلك الحين وحتى يونيو 2011 عندما أخدته عناصر من "اليوم الموعود" رهينة، في إشارة إلى مليشيا لواء اليوم الموعود التابعة لجيش المهدي.
يُذكر أن وزارة الدفاع الأميركية (بنتاغون) تقول إنه لم يتم إدراج أي فرد من جنودها رهينة بالعراق منذ استعادة رفات آخر جندي مفقود الشهر الماضي.
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DR ABO WAQASS- CALGARY -ALBERTA
HOW CAN WE ATTACK IRAN- part 1 of 10 parts.
I USE USA FORCES IN AFGHANISTAN INCREASE THE JETS FIGHTERS IN THAT SIDE.
2- KEEP SOME GOOD FORCE IN IRAQ AND KUWAIT TO DEAL WITH THE SHIIA THUGS WHO WILL SUPPORT IRAN FORM the Iraqi evil government side.
3- keep tanks and jets in Kuwait
4- improve the bases in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and uae
5- ask Qatar to not help or involve with Iran
6- increase USA sea base and naval strength in Bahrain
7-prepare the submarines in the red sea, Mideastern sea, and the Arabian sea
8- close down the straight of hermoze and increase inspections on Iranians boat and ships
9- keep forces in Turkmenistan north of Iran ,and the turkey borders.
10-keep economic bloc-aid
11- attack with multi nations France, Germany, Italy, holand, and UK ,use every thing you got to finish the mission
12-help with money and arms the resistant ( KURDS, ARABESTAN, LOURS, TURKS, BAHA'I, PERSIANS, BELOOSH, SUNNIS , CHRISTENS , ASSYRIANS GROUP AND MUJAHEDIN KHLAQ FIGHTERS ) use every means of propaganda TV, radios, news and secret short wave radios to teach the masses what to do and where to get weapon and money and how to attack the enemy and destroy the enemy war machine and infrastructures,
13- use virus to attack Iran computers and army computers, destroy their satellites, command and controls, nooks sites,
and attack QUM as the mullahs will hide at their shrines and use it to make fatwas .
14- freeze all Iran assets, stop them from immigrations or coming here as most are using USA and Canada to send money to Hezbollah and Iraqi thugs, stop Ahmad AL jalabi and arrest him as he is one of Iran spies
15-help Dr ayad alawi to take over Iraq as he won the election but Iran put AL maleki instead, Al maleki pretend he is with USA but he is a lire,
16 control the Iran Iraqi boarder and Syria Iraq border by using drones so no shiia can cross to Iran from Iraq and Syria
17- Iraqi kurds can help from north Iraq, the Sunni can help from west Iraq and the resistant can attack from inside Iran
18-Israel can take care of Hezbollah and leash hell if those terrorists Hezbollah attack Israel , that's why we must get red of Syrian regimes now to cut Iran arms before attacking Iran
I will write part 2 in detail on how we can do it .
GET RED OF THEM NOW, SHIIAZIM IS EVIL MUST END
1. al-Assad IS in serious trouble. Obama was one of the first world leaders to call explicitly for al-Assad's ouster. ALL THE WORLD CONDEMN AND SANCTION HIM and we must keep doing it until he fall and then bring him as a war criminal along with russian leaders we must attack russian interest every where, they have blood in there hands.
2. Force is only answer aganist syria now.along with Hizboallah, terrorists must be hunted down, Yes, the Pentagon is reportedly preparing "detailed" contingency options for U.S. military action in Syria. That's what militaries do, and it's only prudent for the United States to monitor chemical weapons sites and eavesdrop on the regime's communications. It's also a good idea for the president to have a full understanding of what his options are and the risks and costs involved.
3. The U.S. intelligence community is concerned about hizboalla ,iran and iraqi shiia terrorists presence in Syria of fighters from Iraq's shiia branch, who are thought to be behind a spate of bombing attacks in Damascus and Aleppo.
4. . If al-Assad is to fall, the pillars that prop up his regime must first be removed. Iran and Russia, both of which continue to send weapons and advice, if not more, must be convinced that a post-al-Assad Syria is something they can at least live with. Both countries have met with members of the Syrian opposition, indicating they want to explore their options. Perhaps
5. Ignoring China. and use the human right tickets aganist them, make it tough for china to buy and sale to any memebers , china love money and will leave asad if there are economic snaction aganist this evil communist regime.
6. Focusing exclusively on the Syrian National Council he;p them, arm them , finance them, get no fly zones in multiple areas so they can get weapons and supplies, they are already in civil war , so no worries we can safe civilians , al asad already kilkled 14,000 civilians, and more than 132 000 in prison, killing daily.
.7- attack syria now alonmg with hizboallah as they are hiding chimechal weapons and stash and make the region un stable, attack them now and save millions of civilians later, attack them now and that will make it easy to get red of iran later. we all must be united to get red of those evil fregiemes, dont be silent SILENCE IS A CRIME, HITLER MUST NOT COME BACK AGAIN and he is a life and well as long as IRAN AND SYRIA THUGS ARE COMMITTING CIVILIAN KILLING.
So much of hate ! The fanactic muslims hate everybody who is non muslim. The fanatic jews hate everybody who is not jewish. The fanatic christians hate everybody who is not a christian. You get it ....
So much of filth and absurdity in some of these postings. Get a life you people. Grow tolerant. Don't be racist and bigoted.
I am glad a huge part of the US welcomes ideas, talent and creativity. That's what makes this country great. That's what will keep the US ahead of all other countries which are getting driven by religious zealots (Iran, Israel ...).
God bless the USA.
Of course, it has a small percentage of idiots. Some who are commenting on this page.
رسائل البريد الإلكتروني كشفت عن شغف أسماء الأسد بالتسوق(الفرنسية)
قالت صحيفة ذي غارديان البريطانية إن أسماء الأسد كانت تنفق عشرات آلاف الدولارات على التسوق عبر الإنترنت بينما كان الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد منهمكا بتنزيل الأغاني على آي باد وتبادلها معها ومع الأصدقاء.
وكشفت الصحيفة عن تفاصيل دقيقة تتعلق بالأسد وزوجته أسماء، وذلك بعد التمكن من اختراق بريدهما الإلكتروني الشخصي، على أيدي ناشطين معارضين، وفي حين كانت جل اهتمامات الأسد بتحميل المواد الترفيهية وإهدائها لزوجته وأصدقائه، كانت زوجته أسماء مشغولة بالتسوق عبر الإنترنت.
وأوضحت الصحيفة أنه بينما كان الصراع يحتدم على الأراضي السورية، كانت زوجة الرئيس الأسد تنفق مئات آلاف الدولارات عبر شبكة الإنترنت لشراء البضائع، وكان الأسد يتبادل روابط لمواد ترفيهية مع أصدقائه عبر جهاز آي باد، وأنه قام بتنزيل ملفات موسيقى عبر برنامج آي تونز.
وقالت ذي غارديان إنه بينما كانت المدن والبلدات السورية تتعرض للقصف بالمدفعية الثقيلة وراجمات الصواريخ كان الأسد يرسل لزوجته أسماء أغاني لمطربين غربيين.
مطرب أميركي
وأوضحت أن المدن والبلدات السورية تعرضت لقصف شديد بمدافع الهاون في الخامس من فبراير/شباط الماضي، مما أسفر عن مقتل وجرح المئات من السوريين، وأن مجلس الأمن كان يخطط لاتخاذ قرار ضد من وصفته بالدكتاتور.
وأضافت أن بريد الأسد الإلكتروني يكشف عن أنه في اليوم التالي قام بإهداء زوجته أسماء أغاني للمطرب الأميركي بليك شيلتون، وأنه قام بإنزالها من "آي تونز"، وأن بريد الأسد لم يعكس الحالة الدموية والاضطرابات التي تشهدها البلاد.
وقالت إنه لا يبدو أن حياة الأسد وعائلته والدائرة الضيقة المحيطة به كانت تبدو وكأنها تقود البلاد الثائرة من حولهم، موضحة أن مطلع إحدى الأغاني كان يقول "لقد كنت أمشي مكسور القلب، لقد زججت بنفسي في الفوضى، فالشخص الذي كنت أمثله في الفترة الأخيرة، ليس هو الشخص الذي أردت أن أكون".
وأضافت الصحيفة أن الناشطين اطلعوا على عشرات الرسائل الإلكترونية الخاصة بالبريد الشخصي للأسد وزوجته أسماء، والتي تظهر كيف أن زوجة الرئيس كانت تنفق عشرات آلاف الدولارات في التسوق عبر الإنترنت.
وقالت إن أسماء الأسد كانت توقع على مشتريات ثمينة من الأثاث المصنوع يدويا والمجوهرات والأحذية الغربية بالرمز "AAA" وأنها كانت تشتري لها ولبعض صديقاتها، وأنها كانت تعيش حياة بذخ وترف.
وأضافت أن بعض التجار الأوروبيين لا يعرفون أن المرأة التي تتسوق من محالهم عبر الإنترت هي السيدة الأولى لسوريا، ولكن بعضهم قال إنه يعرفها أو أنه قابلها مرة أو أكثر، وأنها كانت لطيفة جدا في التعامل مع التجار.
وأشارت الصحيفة إلى تفاصيل العديد من الرسائل الإلكترونية التي أرسلها الأسد لزوجته ولآخرين، وإلى أن الرئيس السوري بدا متأثرا بالأحداث في ظل تفاقم الأزمة في البلاد.
فقد كشفت عن أن بعض الرسائل الإلكترونية التي أرسلها الأسد لزوجته كانت تقول "إذا كنا أقوياء معا، فنحن سنتغلب على هذا معا. أحبك".
كما أرسل الأسد رسالة أخرى في 23 يوليو/تموز 2011 يصف فيها روبرت موردوخ بكونه يهودي وإسرائيلي وأنه شيطان.
go fk your self Dave B
you and your peace of sh it muslims shiia and iranians, u evil lover.....u must be fk ed by muslim when they come to usa the muslims will fk your wife and doughter and let them wear borqa evil must die
Dave B
Meir Dagan makes we laugh, "don't attack Iran" then he is off with his pick and shovel digging for Uranium in the Negev.
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