it is good that we got rid of 9/11 perpetrators and the original al qaeda members in Afghanistan but the Tailbans, however weaken, are there to stay. Pushtan Afghans want them then let them have it in east and south, i guess.
But we should try to preserve karzai thug government for non-Pushtan in the central and northern areas, however corrupt.
protecting minority tribes like hazara and women from talibans would be a worthy course.
it's not goof enough but it would be better than when we came in when taliban had a full control of the country.
other countries expect for element in pakistan don't prefer talibans to come back completely either, so maybe we can work something out.
Throughout history the Afghans had always chased foreigners away who tried to occupy their land. Learn from Mikhail Gorbachev who took the Soviet troops out of Afghanistan in 1989 after 9 years and 3 months.
i wasn't suggesting that nato stays. so i think we are agreeing.
it;s just that hazaras, tajiks and uzbecks and non-tlaibans pushtans are not foreigners though. it's their country, too.
also talibans have control because of pakistan. i dont know if talibans are capable of full control of its country on their own.
anyways, nato can't change the country. they look like colonists now, even tough in 2001 they were welcomed.
they over stayed their welcome, failed to provide better, sustainable lives or set a reliable government.
so we should accept the failure and leave it to the country's own people.
but there can be continuous financial, diplomatic and counter-terror assistance from US, europeans, russia, india, china and even iran to keep pakistan in check (only limited, of course) while talibans and Afghan security force will probably go into a civil war after nato leaves in 2014.
that's all i'm saying.
if afghan security force will fail completely and pakistan takes afghan control though talibans and set up a terrorist safe haven, we should accept that, too.
there may be another 911 in next decade but that's probably okay than keeping nato force there.
March 14, 2012 at 4:08 am |
j. von hettlingen
What you suggested was just histoy repeating itself, Afghanistan would once more be a playground of interests again – for the proxies of "the US, europe, russia, india, china and even iran", not forgetting Pakistan.
Of course not! Tha NATO forces have no more business there right now than the Russians had back in the 1980's! 9/11 was more of an excuse than a reason to be over there. However, the real reason we're in Afghanistan is because of the underground mineral resources. This, the right-wing news media doesn't talk about!!!
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it is good that we got rid of 9/11 perpetrators and the original al qaeda members in Afghanistan but the Tailbans, however weaken, are there to stay. Pushtan Afghans want them then let them have it in east and south, i guess.
But we should try to preserve karzai thug government for non-Pushtan in the central and northern areas, however corrupt.
protecting minority tribes like hazara and women from talibans would be a worthy course.
it's not goof enough but it would be better than when we came in when taliban had a full control of the country.
other countries expect for element in pakistan don't prefer talibans to come back completely either, so maybe we can work something out.
Throughout history the Afghans had always chased foreigners away who tried to occupy their land. Learn from Mikhail Gorbachev who took the Soviet troops out of Afghanistan in 1989 after 9 years and 3 months.
i wasn't suggesting that nato stays. so i think we are agreeing.
it;s just that hazaras, tajiks and uzbecks and non-tlaibans pushtans are not foreigners though. it's their country, too.
also talibans have control because of pakistan. i dont know if talibans are capable of full control of its country on their own.
anyways, nato can't change the country. they look like colonists now, even tough in 2001 they were welcomed.
they over stayed their welcome, failed to provide better, sustainable lives or set a reliable government.
so we should accept the failure and leave it to the country's own people.
but there can be continuous financial, diplomatic and counter-terror assistance from US, europeans, russia, india, china and even iran to keep pakistan in check (only limited, of course) while talibans and Afghan security force will probably go into a civil war after nato leaves in 2014.
that's all i'm saying.
if afghan security force will fail completely and pakistan takes afghan control though talibans and set up a terrorist safe haven, we should accept that, too.
there may be another 911 in next decade but that's probably okay than keeping nato force there.
What you suggested was just histoy repeating itself, Afghanistan would once more be a playground of interests again – for the proxies of "the US, europe, russia, india, china and even iran", not forgetting Pakistan.
Of course not! Tha NATO forces have no more business there right now than the Russians had back in the 1980's! 9/11 was more of an excuse than a reason to be over there. However, the real reason we're in Afghanistan is because of the underground mineral resources. This, the right-wing news media doesn't talk about!!!
Thanks for some other informative blog. The place else may just I am getting that type of info written in such a perfect approach? I've a mission that I am simply now operating on, and I've been on the glance out for such info.