By Fareed Zakaria, CNN
I've been following the tense back and forth with Iran very closely. I continue to believe it is the single most dangerous crisis that we confront today. And I'm struck by the pessimism surrounding it.
Everyone seems to believe that whatever the momentary ups and downs, there is unlikely to be a deal between Iran and the great powers that will avert war and prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. But that's not clear. There is a path to a deal, if, as with any successful negotiation, both sides can come away with something.
What would a deal look like?
The United States has long demanded that Iran stop all enrichment of uranium, a process that allows it to produce the fuel necessary for an atomic bomb. Iran has insisted it has the right to enrich for a peaceful nuclear program. There is a way around the deadlock.
Washington has signaled that it will ask Iran to stop enriching uranium to 20 percent, the level from which fuel can be easily converted for military purposes. Iran has indicated that it might be willing to accept a limit and would enrich up to only 3.5 or 5 percent. Then Iran could claim that it has preserved its right to enrichment but it's very hard to weaponize from that level.
There are other sticking points but Iran almost accepted a deal in 2009 and proposed one in 2010. Statements from officials in both sides suggest they might embrace elements of those proposals.
The crucial point on which Iran must make deep concessions is comprehensive inspections. The 2011 International Atomic Energy Agency report lays out a series of indicators that Iran might be pursuing a weapons program. The great powers should use that as a checklist of activities that Iran would commit to refraining from and insist that Iran allow the IAEA unfettered access to its sites until the agency is satisfied that any military program has been shut down.
But Iran would have to receive some reward for accepting such unprecedented inspections, and the obvious option would be the relaxation of sanctions, step by step, as inspections proceed unimpeded.
Now, for any deal to stick, it has to be accepted by two groups. The first are the hardliners in Tehran, led by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. He might be amenable. Khamenei has consolidated power, and he might be secure enough to accept a deal.
He has beaten back the Green movement, accommodated one key rival, Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, and sidelined another, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Khamenei has also given himself room to make concessions on the nuclear program, saying recently Islam considers the possession of nuclear weapons a grave sin.
But if Iran does make concessions, the United States would have to be able to accept them and relax some sanctions. And this is where the second important group, Republicans in Washington, could be an obstacle. If they demagogue the deal, or refuse to reciprocate on sanctions, the whole thing will unravel.
The administration has handled its allies, Russia, China, the United Nations and even Tehran with skill. To succeed, however, it has to tackle its most formidable foe, with whom it has not had much negotiating success so far: Republicans.
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Ummm, excuse me, but isn't the current situation entirely Iran's making? Aren't they already in violation of accords, and if they just followed their original word all the sanctions would be lifted? You've probably never heard of Neville Chamberlain, who tried to appease another crazy person, and millions died. Shall we follow the same path again?
Ok, that's one example. Not sure why everything has to be compared to Nazi's and World War 2, but whatever. I'm not a big fan of "shoot first ask questions later", everyone deserves the chance to prove themselves in the right conditions.
How many chances are you willing to give them?
You do know that Iran's president has on many occasions called for the extinguishing of the Israeli country/people? That's kinda similar to what happened in WWII... and by similar, I mean exactly the same. Did you not know this?
The U.S. can't bear a grudge against Iran for ever. Well, it still dwells on the Monroe doctrine – a nearly 200 year old policy that declared that any attempt to colonise land on the continent of North America would be regarded as an act of war. Iran stormed the American embassy in Tehran in 1979 and took dozens of U.S. staff hostage. The U.S. has not forgiven Iran for this act of war and the GOP hopefuls have also been siding with Israel by beating the war drums. Send the German-born Pope or Mikhail Gorbachev to the supreme leader. They are all nearly the same age. Maybe it would do Khamenei good to meet these two men.
Brad – deep seated hatred of the Jews and threats to wipe them off the face of the earth doesn't ring any BELLS with you? Doesn't bear any resemblance to Hitlers ambitions? Doesn't make you realise that Chamberlain was an abject failure who put the world in peril because he chose to be "The peaceful" guy?
Spoken like a true, if not spineless, Democrat; and VERY like Zakaria – blaming the Republicans for wanting to have a safer world.
Trust CNN to allow Zakaria to carry on Obama's election campaign on this page! Ahmedinejad was voted President of Iran – Let's all blame the Republicans for that too!
The US is not the Middle East police department; why do our Tax dollars have to go to protect Isreal?, what have the provide/given the USA? a chapter in a Book (bible)?...USA need to remember which sides their bread is butter(OIL) on so we can have lower gas price!!
tckr83: Keep in mind the president is not the true leader. The real leader is Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader. From what I understand Khamenei has had to tell Ahmedinejad to shut up about the Holocaust stuff he's spouting
It didn't take the zionist trolls long to infest this blog. Can you tone down the HYSTERIA? No one is buying your "wolf, wolf" cries anymore. You did that to Iraq too! Iran is a signatory of NPT has no nukes and plenty of rights. Israel is a pariah state, no NPT and DOES HAVE nukes. And we "need" to worry about Iran, whom hasn't been an aggressor country for over 200 years. Yet this little pariah state Israel has started a war with every single neighbor in the middle east by being the aggressor in its 70 year DARK history. Let's get real, Iran is not the problem, Israel is.
Just the fact that you would trust Iran with their track record causes me serious doubt of accepting your credibility for sensible conclusions.
Why are you so ready to send our military and this country to war? Is it because you have neither served in the military nor have this country as your first priority? Give the sanctions a chance.
ATTN: BRAD 76 MY APOLOGIES... My comment was intended to be directed to Farhrique Englasias
Comment as follows...
Why are you so ready to send our military and this country to war? Is it because you have neither served in the military nor have this country as your first priority? Give the sanctions a chance.
patrick said: How many chances are you willing to give them?
Patrick, if you are so much in favor of fighting a war for Israel (Iran is no threat to USA even if they had nukes), then GO MOVE TO ISRAEL AND VOLUNTEER TO JOIN THE IDF!
Dealing with Iran...the only ones who will deal with Iran properly is Israel and that is by dropping a 100 megaton nuke on Tehran....that will solve this problem once and for all!
wulfduggler talk about nazis lol
Wulf – There is NEVER any excuse to annihilate a nation simply because you don't like their politics. NEVER.
And Israel when Israel bombed the Iraqi facility they did a good job but they didn't resort to Nuclear weapons then and they won't now.
The West have caused this problem with Iran. The USA have their own issues with Iran and so have the rest of the UN.
now they have to live with their dishonesty and make a REAL effort for peace.
As for Zakaria saying the REPUBLICANS will be responsible if a deal fails??????? What Planet is he on ? The whole Western World has put crippling sanctions on Iran. Zakaria is a dangerous commentator and should be removed – America is divided enough without his ill-informed comments.
Sure! Let Israel go and attack Iran prematurely and unprovoked while the UN is having progressive dialogue to bring this situation to a peaceful resolution! See if that makes Israel and the region any safer!
Iran funding terror cells/organizations in Palestine/Lebanon/Syria that fire rockets into Israel isn't in any way provoking? Sending an Iranian warship off the coast of Israel isn't provoking?
Go ahead and put me down as "not surprised" when Iran does something to call off/sabotage/destroy the UN nuclear talks... wait, they already have! You can have all the talks, inspections, etc you want... you still can't trust the Iranian government when they tell you that you've seen all the possible sites there are to inspect. To take their (Iran's) word on that would be a mistake and make me call into question the IQ of the UN inspectors should they believe whatever Iran has to say, this considering their (Iran's) history of deceit and detachment from reality under their current government.
I'm not calling for war... BUT you have to be honest about the parties involved, who has done what to date and if the current situation seems like more of the same from the past. Iran has to prove they're ready to the rest of the World, not the other way around.
@wulfduggler – My parents are Israeli, and I'll be the first to say that dropping any bombs on Iran (let alone nukes, as I assume you can't be dumb enough to suggest that this is a realistic option, but you may be.... who knows....) is a LAST RESORT. The fact that sanctions seem to be working as evidenced by Tehran's apparent willingness to come to the negotiating table and agree to limit enrichment to 3.5% to 5.0%, should be viewed as a step in the right direction! Iran screwed up my messing around with over-enrichment and eluding the IAEA, we hit them with sanctions, now they're backing down..... if things work out this way, diplomatically, then we all win because a war was averted! I will agree, however, that if this is simply a stall tactic by Tehran and they do not make good on their apparent willingness to back down..... BOMBS AWAY B-TCHES!!!!
That's a no-brainer solution. That is, you have to have no brains to propose it.
And the World thinks the psychopath Israelis are to be trusted with nukes??? Yeah right!
wulfduggler said: Dealing with Iran...the only ones who will deal with Iran properly is Israel and that is by dropping a 100 megaton nuke on Tehran....that will solve this problem once and for all!
Nice wulf, THE FINAL SOLUTION. Just like Herr Hitler planned for YOUR PEOPLE.
reply to wulfduggler, woundering this person aware of the situation that if israel dare to attack iran they will facce consequences : 1-ready to go 100s, of long range missiels from Iran to tel-aviv, hifa, and moany other cities. 2- they wil face 1000s of short and long missiels from lobenan, gaza(hassan Nasrollah has already said that). 3-a severve attack from syria.the result is 1- in a very short time most of the isarelis cities become level. 2- 90% of the whole population will flee and never come back. 3- isarel will face a country with no residents.
It should be noted That Iran has actually met it's obligations to the treaty that it signed. The west decided to move the goal posts.
Iran only started to process it's fuel to a higher level when the west placed crippling sanctions on Iran.
Funny to witness the west now begging Iran to drop back to 3% refinement. This same agreement could have been accepted over a year ago. The same with the deal Iran offered to exchange it's fuel. The west turned that reasonable offer down as well... one of the stupidest things it could have done. Now the west would like that. So it is the west that keeps stumbling with the ball.
Zakaria points out that one of the keys to a deal is for Iran to open up to inspections. But what does that mean. It has aready allowed inspections and was recognized by the IAEA not that long ago as co operating with inspections. But that was not good enough for the west. They wanted more. They insisted on checking areas which infringed on Iran's legitimate security concerns....which every country in the world is allowed to protect. This is the key problem that Zakaria does not address. How does Iran protect it's legitimate security concerns without the west screaming......."they are blocking inspections"? This happened all the time in Iraq. And it will happen again in Iran because it can't possibly allow inspectors into some buildings because certain secrets that it must keep..... ones that have nothing to do with nuclear weapons....... those secrets will be exposed. So it is impossible to "ever" verify if Iran is hiding something. And Iran can never prove it does not have something. This is the problem facing Iran and the west and this is why it will fail. Because people do not recognize this problem.
And now for the truth...
Iran lied about the existence of other enrichment locations, hence the tougher sanctions. That is all. You have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Besides that, Iran is in no place to negotiate... if they weren't making threats and acted like the rest of the civilized world... this nuclear thing wouldn't be as big a deal as it is currently. When you threaten to eliminate a country and a people, yea, you deserve every bit of opposition that comes with those hate filled rants.
tckr83 – OK the truth! Ahmedinejad is a madman who has stated many times that [a] the Holocaust never happened but [b] He wasnted to wipe Jews from the face of the planet. He is slowly being rendered powerless by the Ayatollah BECAUSE he's as mad as a hatter.
The Iranian government is as crafty as a bag of monkeys BUT the Iranian PEOPLE are not. If the government are willing to talk – then sanctions are working. SANCTIONS will be the means by which the will PEOPLE impose their will on the government – or the governemt will lose their power and they don't want THAT.
TellItLikeItis – you are assuming that the Iranians have power to dictate to their government their wishes, their needs...
Iran is an oligarchy and that means that it is a form of government in which all the power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
The people of Iran have no say whatsoever.
hey patrick, isn't that how the USA is? You may think that you have a say in something over here but the truth is the media is manipulating you and your emotions.
main problems in world current crises based on some limited factors, the right of veto in UN, which US is one of them, US is the only country who has nuk bombs and used it two time in ww2,.other coiutries have nuk as well but they never threaten other nations only US does the right of veto IN UN should be taken -off some country should not have it and it is not fair for the global countries, equal right for equal country.Israel should join The NPT, if she refused to sign all the sanction similar to Iran should be imposed to Israel.United nation it is better to be replaced to other country likewise swess not in NY, America should respect the other nations, look at he figures the most crimes in the world is inside the US.how many prisones they have, huge numbers, and the final point why every visitor travel to US, they finger print , scan the passport, and take a photo of the passenger. it is against the rules of privacy, if the US goverment is not sure about its security they shoild close the borders not to invade the privacy of billions of people arround the global
Too bad you apparently view the world in such black and white terms.
I believe that Zakaria is on the right track in general but I also think he needs to explain how "any" country can open up all it's doors for inspection without completely sacrificing it's vital national security. I also think that the biggest US problem will be Israel. They will not allow "any" refinement of nuclear fuel in Iran even though as a signatory to the NPT, Iran has every right to do that. This is one of the big issues that has caused
the west problems....... the west has placed sanctions and punished Iran for doing what it is actually "allowed" to do under the treaty that it signed. They west has spoken out both sides of it's mouth and got itself into this mess by their own doing.
Actually, they have no right to do it. Not when they're funding terrorist organizations around the world, and holding rallies of hatred on routine occurrences with their Ayatollah and President giving the speeches themselves! Again, if this was a reality in which Iran was a peaceful country... this wouldn't be as big of a deal. Seeing as how they can't be further from this, Iran deserves nothing and then again everything they're currently getting by the international community on this particular issue. They've dug they're own hole to climb out of and just like people in your life, they've made their own reputation as a government (not a people) that isn't exactly "trustworthy". That is "black and white" or my perceived opinion... that is the reality of what has been going on.
I'm glad you said the WEST. The west is made up of the United Nations led by America but consisting of 120 odd countries NOT just Israel!
Excellent post.
Pity Zakaria doesn't have your powers of reasoning. He's happy to tow the Democrat line and blame the Republicans!
Well, if the cap fits, let the unfaithful un-American republicans wear it! After all, they destroyed our economy, destablised the Middle East with two illegitimate wars and now they continue to set up deliberate roadblocks to prevent the Obama administration from cleaning up the mess so that progres can be made at home and abroad! Let's face it, the republicans and their teacups should all be blamed for being in existence period!
nice one troll. I didn't see any blame on republicans in the story.
Got to love Godwin's Law.
What would you propose as a solution? Going to war now to prevent going to war later?! Of course, some people can't really deal with complex situations. They see everything as black and white.
The solution is to not even worry about it until if/when the Iranians do an underground nuclear bomb test. Look at how much difficulty North Korea has had. Its clearly not easy.
Fareed Zakaria is SLEEPER MUSLIM working for CNN to lower down guard. Make U think Iran is good people....think again sheep........this guy work stone his own grandma if she didnt wear burka. Get the big bomb ready to tunnel underground or the Jews will do it end of this month.
Notice in photo the GPS logo after Zachria name.......thats cause this guy is sleeper Muslim already using GPS to lock and load on Jews. We need to downgrade the GPS signal for all other people over there.......they using tech stuff against us.
Zakaria predicted tha Assad would be gone about now. Wrong! Now he thinks that Khameni will agree to halt the nukes. There is even lesser chance of that. Nukes are the ONLY thing that unites the Iranians and keeps clerics in power long-term.
Wrong! Western countries are the ones in breach of the NPT. By signing the NPT, Iran voluntarily gave up its right to nuclear weapons in exchange for technology and nuclear fuel assistance that the West has been withholding from Iran.
Yes, there is truth in what you say. There is also truth in a statement by Eldridge Cleaver, "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
As difficult as it must, at times, be, President Obama and his team must continue to look for a way forward diplomatically. Beligerence may be a "feel good" release but it is not the answer. After all, who among us, will advocate to start dropping bombs. That is clearly in nobody's best interest.
We can all be a small part of the solution by striving to demonstrate a little more tolerance and a little less anger. Anger,
after all, is very bad for the morale.
So, because you're so afraid of being called an "appeaser", you'd rather send thousands of our solidiers into combat to die? Into another war we utterly cannot afford? Unless you have another plan, you need to cool it and give diplomacy a chance to work.
Do you really think other countries would sit idly by while we bomb Iran? Of course not. Starting a conflict over there is the LAST thing this country needs if it ever wants to get out of this recession and debt crisis we're in.
When are you going to see that Iran is playing games, and stretching the time? They already promised so many times, that they will make an agreement, but so far, nothing came out, only talking and talking int he outside, and building and building in the inside. Iran is already developed missiles that can reach Israel, and Europe (why Europe too?), and continue to develop missiles to reach the US. They want to become an empire who is going to control the part of the world where the oil is, then, we are ALL in big trouble. Saudi-Arabia is waiting that someone will attack Iran, and destroy the nuk before it"s too late. The talking about Democrats or Republicans that Farreed Zakaria tries to bring in, has nothing to do with the danger of that regime.
Here goes that idiot zakaria with his ignorant left wing propaganda again...he fails to see that iran does not fear nor respect the current administration...at least they would fear the right..
Dude, the people in power in Iran are politicians. Their parliament speaker, Ali Larijani, has a PhD in Western Philosophy. They're all just sleazy politicians like our politicians.
We can't live in the past. The question is how to get Iran to stop any uranium enrichment for use in nuclear weapons. A resolution would also bring the cost of oil and gasoline down dramatically.
Zakaria is paid to fill up space. If he understood history he would know that Iran means nothing that they say publicly. There will be no DEAL. Negotiations to them are a fishing game, give a little nibble, pull bakck, accept another pull ....they get two steps forward, and one step back...on and on till the other side is exhausted. There will be no deal until the Israelis destroy their nuclear development means.
Farred is supporting Iran, When are you going to see that Iran is playing games, and stretching the time? They already promised so many times, that they will make an agreement, but so far, nothing came out, only talking and talking int he outside, and building and building in the inside. Iran is already developed missiles that can reach Israel, and Europe (why Europe too?), and continue to develop missiles to reach the US. They want to become an empire who is going to control the part of the world where the oil is, then, we are ALL in big trouble. Saudi-Arabia is waiting that someone will attack Iran, and destroy the nuk before it"s too late. The talking about Democrats or Republicans that Farreed Zakaria tries to bring in, has nothing to do with the danger of that regime.
even Reagan said "trust but verify." Chamberlain is a very poor analogy. It is not appeasement, it's called negotiating. If the allow unprecedented verification, sanctions are not needed. Sanctions were imposed just for this reason. And it appears sanctions are working. It looks like we're squeezing them financially. The don't have the refining capability..
Oh my...why would you think sanctions are working? Sanctions don't work. They make it worse because sanctions are punishment without verification.
We said the same thing about Iraq and Sadaam back then...that "Sadaam is probably lying just like he usually lies about things." We found no WMD's and the Iraq war cost us so much money and lives.
Now we wanna do the same with Iran?
All this because the CIA can't do their job and find out what is really going on. Because of the CIA's mistakes, history has been filled with fires/wars/killings.
By the way, the U.S. GAVE weapons to BOTH Iraq and Iran during the Golf war.
Can't appease but what else can a failed administration do?
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The whole point of NPT is to allow nations to enrich uranium while assuring the safety of other nations.. So to say that Iran should follow the NPT accord, but not enrich uranium is ludicrous. Iran has followed all the requirements of the NPT accord to the T, and in no report will you find anything about Iran having violated the accord. The little known fact is that what the west is demand from Iran is something above and beyond any accord. And Iran has only been accused of violating those demands (not letting inspectors roam free any secrete military facility – which western nation would allow an international body into its most secrete military facilities?). Iran IS letting in IEAE inspectors into it's nuclear facilities.
And the whole Neville Chamberlain thing is really getting old. You can use that argument justify any war, any time, and any where.
It has come to this because we have been appeasing Israel for the past 60 years while they continue to distract the world by crying wolf while commiting crime against the internaional laws. As we are busy with Iran they are grabing the land by bulldozing villages and towns and holding millions as hostages. Palestinians had nothing to do with world war 2 or the holocaust.
50 years of sanctions on Cuba have resulted in impoverished children and women & a very strong central government.
Fareed,
Once again your head is in a hole. A "DEAL" requires both sides to abide by the rules.
I don't want a "Deal" just so Obama can get his picture in the paper.
Look at the "Deal" they just made with N.Korea. How did that turn out?
You must be a republican. You are incapable of discussing anything without insulting the person you talk to. I know where your head is but I will not say.
It's called history, look it up. With some people you can't believe a single word they say... ever. And it's scary that some people are so gullible to this fact. There are bad people in the world, and Iran fits the bill.
Better a Rep than a head in the sand idiot
"gullible", "sand idiot". Honestly your ideas don't even deserve consideration until you can speak like a civilized human being.
Steve,
Actually he called you and "idiot", not a "sand idiot"... but the shoe fits either way. But interesting to know that you set the name calling/tone for these particular posts in this section of the thread... insinuating someone with their head in body orifice. Your arrogance sounds familiar... and yes, you're gullible if you're willing to give Iran the benefit of the doubt on anything. There needs to be a long line of positive acts coming out of that country to start to even WANT to believe anything they say or do.
If you were so sure you are right then you wouldn't need to call people names to discuss it. I don't believe your dreamed up power allows you to tell another country what to do. Do you know how bad this will look, and what that will mean if we go into iran militarily and there are no nukes? We used to be the country that leads by example. Now we just want to retain power that is not ours. The power to tell the rest of the world how to live. If we lead by example instead of bravado then we will win the collective respect of this global community we need to protect. If we continue these small country town ideas on a global stage we will lose. The fate of the globe and the history of mankind will change because of it.
Steve – You must be a Democrat. You have nothing to add to the discussion, and no real idea what's going on – so you blame the Republicans.
This is an opinion page. But since Democrats listen SO carefully to this administration who say "When we want your opinion we'll tell you what it is " , what do we expect?
You must be a republican. You are incapable of discussing anything without insulting the person you talk to. I know where your head is but I will not say..... Gee Steve... look at your other posts, you are guilty of doing the exact same thing!!! Should I say.... typical liberal hypocrite?
tellitlikeitis? What exactly was it that your post accomplished. Did it inform or discuss? There are two factions in this country. The prebublicans who believe it is their right to control and dominate every other culture in the world. The democrats who are made up of all of those cultures and are trying to maintain the democratic dream of our founding fathers. This dream degrades the barriers of class and wealth so a simple man can make his journey through life through hard work and determination free from oppression by elites that hate just for hates sake.
Tomben Again all you can add is that I am a "insert name here". Honostly it is getting kinda old now. Are you gonna talk about facts or just try to engage in a hatefilled argument that only ends up proving that you are more aggressive and have less respect for human dignity than I do?
no offense but the USA's track record on this has been crappy at best. What did invading iraq get us? Another 2 trillion $$ in debt and no WMD like G W Bush claimed. I say walk and talk carefully before even thinking about invading iran about their supposed nuclear enrichment programs.
It seems a little hypocritical to insult your opponent while denouncing that same practice.
What "facts" have you given Steve... besides describing how the OP had their own head in a human body orifice? I mentioned history, that's factual, unless you want to try to re-write it and make an absurd case for Iran and how they deserve to be treated like an "adult" or "equal" country. Right now according to the Democrats, Republicans have a "war on women"... care to know what happens to women in Iran? Google it, it's not very nice.
And what was the deal GWB and the GOP wager with the American people? Two deadly and costly wars and the worst economic crisis in our nation's history? Why don't you go stick your head up Jerry Sanduski's rear end? Moron!
We already tried the military option under Bush....how'd that work out? 10 years later and we're not one bit safer. Iraq is barely even a country and Afghanistan is a lawless failed state just waiting of the next batch of terrorists to arrive.
So before you go calling for war against Iran, it might help to remember that our track record isn't so good lately in that regard.
no human can make a deal with a jew and come ahead. They want it ALL for themselves & will starve children for a penny of profit.
"A deal", unlikely that Iran would commit to it but great if they would.....
Iran is making a mockery of the US attempts to discuss its issues.
A deal is "possible" only because US WANTS it to be possible.
The Iranians are not looking for a "deal", unless US wants to buy their carpets!
You ignore, hide, and defend Israel committing Genocide of millions of Palestinians. As a very good Israeli puppet and a wannabe white Jewish Christian you have started a relentless campaign to vilify Iran and try to help america israel starve millions of innocent Iranians and Palestinians .
Brainwashed "wannabe white Jewish Christian" Iran has never invaded another country who the hell is Jew controlled america to place sanctions on Iran. Please declare yourself as a "wannabe white Jewish Christian" to stop deceiving people.
Unlike the stereotypical oppressed Muslim women you portray on your show
I am a proud feminist Turkish Muslim who thinks it time for the entire Muslim world to unite
and tell Israeli America to get lost. Billions of Muslim also look at Iran with pride as the only Muslim
nation in the world brave enough not controlled by Israel America.
Pinar
Sounds like you are calling for a crusade against us.
Feminist in nation slowly sliding into Sharia law. Good luck with that. I have seen how well that works for others.
Measure people by their actions.
When did Iran ever invade ANY country in the history of Iran ? When did Iran occupy it's neighbor? The mustard gass that killed millions by Iraq was given to Sadam Husain by which countries ? Why does the Media keep distorting truth to discreadith Iran? Of course it takes courage to remain intellectually honest in today's world does it not? Too many people and especially the Media prefer to place their eggs in the " conventionally " basket at the cost of over-riding their sense of honor and dignity. Please watch Norman Finkelstein on YouTube and educate your self will be a good thing for the West and the East. This crusade was started my Sr Bush and the Jr made it public .
Gail, habibji
"The mustard gass that killed millions by Iraq was given to Sadam Husain by which countries ?"
"Why does the Media keep distorting truth to discreadith (sic) Iran?"
Your statements are:
1. A Western country provided Sadam with the Mustard gas he used to murder fellow muslims.
2. All the "Media" is in cahoots to distort the truth.
hehehe...Do you have any proof of this?
hoppyt
the only thing racist biggots like you know about Turkey and Iran is what Netanyahu has brainwashed you with. You believe every lie Netanyahu tells you because he is clever and he knows most evangelical Christian Americans are inbred rednecks that are mentally challenged.
Pinar..Israel is killing millions of “fakestinians”?? billions of muslims look up to iran?? Are dumb or just a liar? No one here believes your lies..oh wait, u are a muslim woman..probably not allowed to go to school to learn real facts..go back to your cesspool muslim country..
JJ
All surveys taken of the 1.7 billion people that live in the muslim world vote Turkey and Iran as the most respected countries in the Muslim world. As for women's education,Iran and Turkey have close to 100 percent literacy rates. Don't confuse Iran and Turkey with Israeli puppet Saudi Arabia. Maybe all you racist evangelical Christians need to take a trip to Turkey and Iran rather than blindly following Netanyahu as your living GOD. question to all evangelical christians, your religion is based on the worship of Israeli's as your living Gods. Do you think it is rational to worship baby killing Israelis as living Gods.You also have been brainwashed by Netanyahu into believing us muslim women are submissive oppressed victims, Please take a trip to Istanbul and offer to free the submissive oppressed muslim women.
Fareed Zakaria = present day Neville Chamberlain. Appease. Appease. Appease. And this is precisely how Clinton (with the help of envoy Jimmy Carter) gave North Korea nuke tech...in exchange for their "promise" to not weaponize it. Fail.
So "Republicans" are the U.S government's most formidable foe? Well, from where I am sitting, in Canada, we call that "DEMOCRACY". Last time I checked, those "Republicans" had just been voted into power in 2010. Those are American voters who brought those "Republicans" to Washington. If millions of Americans have a problem trusting Iran, (which seems like a justifiable position considering Iran's role in exporting terrorism all over the world) then I wonder how democratic and how wise it would be for an American President to trust Iran in such critical negotiations. Naive is what we would call this position in Canada. Naive.
stupid kids
Yes, forgive them, for they know not what they do.
But they do know exactly what they are doing. They are muslims and they know that allah the magnificent and his profiteer ‘hammed encourages them to lie. Here is the proof:
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:
Taqiyya – Saying something that isn't true.
Kitman – Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."
Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.
Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.
Accurate
Hear Norman Finkelstein on Youtube
And they claim they do NOT like bacon too. EVERYBODY likes bacon.
And they claim they do NOT like bacon too. EVERYBODY likes bacon. Did Mohammed not like Slim Jims? Liar!
BS!
Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer BS????????
Prove me wrong.
At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war). Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace. Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, belying the probability that they were mostly unarmed, having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981).
Such was the reputation of Muslims for lying and then killing that even those who "accepted Islam" did not feel entirely safe. The fate of the Jadhima is tragic evidence for this. When Muslim "missionaries" approached their tribe one of the members insisted that they would be slaughtered even though they had already "converted" to Islam to avoid just such a demise. However, the others were convinced that they could trust the Muslim leader's promise that they would not be harmed if they simply offered no resistance. (After convincing the skeptic to lay down his arms, the unarmed men of the tribe were quickly tied up and beheaded – Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).
Today's Muslims often try to justify Muhammad's murder of poets and others who criticized him at Medina by saying that they broke a treaty by their actions. Yet, these same apologists place little value on treaties broken by Muslims. From Muhammad to Saddam Hussein, promises made to non-Muslim are distinctly non-binding in the Muslim mindset.
Leaders in the Arab world routinely say one thing to English-speaking audiences and then something entirely different to their own people in Arabic. Yassir Arafat was famous for telling Western newspapers about his desire for peace with Israel, then turning right around and whipping Palestinians into a hateful and violent frenzy against Jews.
... and the band played on.
More BS!
Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer "more BS"??????????
Prove me wrong.
Yes, a deal with Iran is possible.
And there's also a possibility that Zakaria could join the GOP.
Hate is the Acid thats eating our country, hate the blacks, the jews the Christians, the Russians, hate the Democrats the GOP and now lets hate the Moslims. We have become an ugly nation of gun happy war mongers. When do we plan to become responsible and start looking at our self and our own history we have blood on our hands from the time we killed millions of Indians and occupied their land. All we have been doing is killing why ?
HATE! Two boys were charged by the Islamic Republic of Iran with "being gay" - but multiple testimonies from inside the city of Mashad and from gay Iranian activists and journalists make it clear that the "being gay" charge against these two hanged boys was trumped up by the government as part of its lethal anti-gay pogrom against gay people. Iran's hanging of these two youths was illegal under international law, because the alleged "being gay" with which they were charged is supposed to have occurred when both boys were under 18 - and Iran is signatory to two international treaties by which it is committed not to execute minor children (more lies and manipulations). Moreover, the two boys were held in prison for over a year, tortured, and probably abused by prison guards and police before their execution. This anti-gay crackdown is part of the crusade against "moral corruption" promised by Iran's President Ahmadinedork in his election campaign. This wave of anti-gay repression includes torture, forced confessions, beatings, lashings - and a wide-ranging campaign of Internet entrapment of gay.
Haven't I read countless claims as yours.3o years they been lying, bulling and all the while listening to you say a deal is possible. while they fool us and continue to advance their nuclear program. Where is all your intellect? Guys like you are going help their agenda . Time is what they need and your giving them by "talks" .Your just to smart I know you think so!!!!!!
The Iranians are trying to build a nuclear satellite to find the WMD's in Iraq so they could shove it all up the GOP's rear end!
Iran's strategy is the same as North Korea used. To use negotiation to delay long enough to aquire a weapon and then walk away from the table. And they have the perfect President in Washington to do so. A fellow Muslim bent on the destruction of America. Don't believe it? Explain His support of Islamic radicals all over the Middle East.
Jamesb3
You lost your credibility with the last two sentences. You may be right about their tactics. But are a clear Obama hatred if you can not recognize.
1. More drone stikes against terrorists by Obama in 3 years than bush total strikes in 8.
2. Invading ( that's how Pakistan sees it )
To get Osama. Gutsy call.
we have a LOT more drones now than under bush.. its called technological advancement. you'd obviously expect more drone attacks.
Killing of OBL was a save face political move. It was the one of the intel branches that discovered his whereabouts. It would have leaked sooner or later that He failed to act. "drone" war is to look like fighting terrorism while doing nothing about Iran working to obtain nuclear weapons. He does little to hide His disdain for Israel or it's right to defend It's very existence.
As to my comments about His ambitions for America all one has to do is study His past, associations and His policies. All point to a hatred for this country an capitalism.
@jamesb3
Did the Iranians tell you so? By the way, did they also tell you where Iraq hid the WMD's? Moron!
Prove him/her wrong.
Of course your right about them not informing me of their ambitions. But only a fool can't see that this is all a delay tactic. To believe anything else is living with your head in the sand.
How naive can you be Zakaria? You are struck by the pessimism that a deal can be reached? I am sure a deal can be reached if we just completely abandon the pursuit to prevent a country who says they will wipe us and Israel from the face of the earth, from attaining the means to do it. The real, and pessimistic view is what it takes to prevent that from happening.
A peaceful nuclear energy program for a country sitting on massive oik reserves? You are naive to believe they would do just that under any form of deal short of dismantling what they have now. The story was more believable for India, North Korea, Israel and Pakistan, but all acquired nuclear weapons using this same tactic, oh, I mean "deal". Sorry, just being pessimistic (another word for realistic) I guess.
@ttrick
That's all BS! No country is planning to wipe any country off the face of the earth! Why don't you rightwing teacups stop all your fearmongerind BS! Wasn't Iraq also supposed to be conspiring to use WMD's on the rest of us?
Prove him wrong.
chemicals are weapons of mass destruction. what did saddam gas the kurds with, your farts?
@patrick burden of proof fallacy
Paul? did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, Sadam's scientists created the gas that murdered all those Kurds.
Why do you insist that it was America that gave the gas to Sadam?
If it's not possible, why have talks? DUH...
The continuing "talks" ensure that all these attempts at an agreement or peace are recorded in history.
You don't want to put a diplomat out of a job now do you? THAT is what they do – talk. Endlessly, promise even more and suggest that we're all the better off. Politicians in sheep's clothing. What an image huh?
@Bogus
Then if we're not going to talk and use deplomacy to bring about peace in the world, then what is the role of the UN? Isn't it better to have ten conferences to bring about a peaceful resolution than two inconclusive conferences that's going to fail to avert a war?
So your statement is the threat by Iran's development of nuclear weapons should be diplomatically approached.
How long do you think we should talk?
Maybe until Iran has nuclear weapons or until Iran has used those nuclear weapons?
US Political System's integrity < Money
Money = AIPAC
AIPAC = Israeli Interest and Not American Interest
GOP = AIPAC
Israeli Interest = US goes to war with Iran
Do the Math......
Democruts = 0.
0+0=0
0=Democruts.
Problem solved.
Get rid of Democruts and all zeros will disappear and the world wil be happy??????????????????????
Wow, you're so clever! Typical GOP voter.
Ahh, the logic of foregone conclusions. A common tool of the liberal elite.
How can anyone make a "deal" with liars? Iran can't be trusted.
A deal of the same sorts of deals with North Korea is possible with Iran. Basically we give endless concessions for them to stop, they ask for more and more, and all the while they secretly continue, until they say to heck with the deal and detonate a nuke.
For those of you calling for war. I have a simple question. What are you prepared to sacrifice.
Will you are a loved one fight?
Will you agree to pay 20% more taxes to pay for this war?
Will you still support it when oil goes to $250 a barrel?
Will you park your car and add 2 hours to your commute to reduce our need for oil from these people who hate us ?
We have seen how wars without sacrifice work.
Put up or shut up.
From a combat veteran
We have you to fight our wars and to fund them. We are a small nation thousands of miles away but we control you, your minds, your politicians, your churches, your media, your children, and your data. We know your secrets, your habits, your aspirations, and your shortcomings. We exploit you whenever we can. And while your political parties bicker at each other and demonstrate confrontation even at as prestigious events as state of the union – when they come to our events they fall upon each other to get a picture taken with our leaders. You are the one who will shed his or her blood – you are the one who will fund the war. We will simply play with your emotions and fool you.
Good one!
You are a racist antisemitic. American Jews also pay taxes and if they want to pursue Israeli security and lobby for it, they have the right to do that. We have earned this right.
Noone in their right mind wants a war.
Things could be very different.
However, how many times can anyone be lied to before saying enough.
You hate, you hate and you want war.
Assertion is commonly used in modern propaganda. An assertion is an enthusiastic or energetic statement presented as a fact, although it is not necessarily true. They often imply that the statement requires no explanation or back up, but that it should merely be accepted without question. Examples of assertion, although somewhat scarce in wartime propaganda, can be found often in modern advertising propaganda. Any time an advertiser states that their product is the best without providing evidence for this, they are using an assertion. The subject, ideally, should simply agree to the statement without searching for additional information or reasoning. Assertions, although usually simple to spot, are often dangerous forms of propaganda because they often include falsehoods or lies.
HATE! The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people. The doctrine includes wiping out Israeli assets and Jewish people worldwide. Calling Israel a danger to Islam, the conservative website Alef, with ties to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said the opportunity must not be lost to remove “this corrupting material. It is a “‘jurisprudential justification” to kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel, and in that, the Islamic government of Iran must take the helm.” The article, written by Alireza Forghani, an analyst and a strategy specialist in Khamenei’s camp, now is being run on most state-owned sites, including the Revolutionary Guards’ Fars News Agency, showing that the regime endorses this doctrine.
i want war. I have been watching this for years and I think there is no other way. the longer we wait, the bigger it will be!
@hoppyt
Thank you!
This administration has handled things with our allies russia and china? you do realize that Clinton said we're losing an "information" war with China and Russia right? Why do the media keep lying to us telling us that Russia and China are our friends? They aren't our friends at all. They're north korea and irans friends. They use us and laugh at us.
"They use us and laugh at us." Wrong. We LET them use us and THEN they laugh at us.
there goes fareed....blaming america instead of i.r.g.c. or hezbolah the two biggest terriorist organizations in the world, modled after hitlers nazi party....yeah your right....lets make a deal...i trust them dont you.....? MORE TIME THATS WHAT THEY WANT
Hitler was German ( Europe not from Middle East) There were others beside the chosen people who were killed in the by Hitler. Lets get this fact right. How many more millions have been killed since world war one and two? Why should any nation not defend its own ? Do you educate your self by reading one book with your eyes shut or hear Fox News? Please educate your self and Google and see what the Fatwa was given after Sadam Husain with the help of France and United States gave mustard gas to kill millions of Kurds and Iranian's. The "Fatwa" was not attack or kill innocent people for the killing of its own people. Of course the Media rather spin lies or lose their jobs. This is a fact. Please read NORMAN FINKELSTIN works, google or youtube.
Free Media.
fatwa=lies
Have we ever benefited from our previous deals with Iran? No. We yield, they take.
And you were paid by Fox New ? Get your facts right.
Any proof?
So if Iran gets the bomb, it's Republican's and, of course Bush's fault. What a shock...
OMG Grow up
Yeah – and so what's your point? Tell the truth and leave one to interpret it as false? Spin and rotate. Clown.
fool
How about you go home Israeli boy. Stop making it an American problem. Don't pull us into it. Fareed, you a a great American.
Mr Zakaria has brains that people like Patrick and Jason fear most they rather turn on Fox News to enlighten them with wisdom of kill and hate.
I agree! Fareed is a great American and a patriot American too!
Zak loves America like a rat loves cheese.
moron.
its all about stalling for time ....... STUPID...... i agree with scott h ...o yeah chamberlain....appease...appease...and they shoot to kill.
In case no one noticed, Iran produces and refines a respectable variety of ores, minerals, etc, including uranium. In fact, they likely have thousands of tons of it. On top of that, there's got to be around a dozen countries with actual nuclear warheads, and two to three times more with immediate capability of the same or other WMD technology. So....... the real problem is who would be suicidal or insane enough to actually use them? Maybe no one right now, but tomorrow, who knows ? We (meaning Israel, Russia, China, USA, and others) are literally threatening to use them just to settle WHO can have them. So how will this episode play out ? No one knows for sure, but it definitely reminds me of a scene out of "Reservoir Dogs" where they're all pointing guns at each other. Does not end very well by the way.
We noticed, however, skeptics of military action fail to appreciate the true danger that a nuclear-armed Iran would pose to U.S. interests in the Middle East and beyond. And their grim forecasts assume that the cure would be worse than the disease - that is, that the consequences of a U.S. assault on Iran would be as bad as or worse than those of Iran achieving its nuclear ambitions. But that is a faulty assumption. The truth is that a military strike intended to destroy Iran’s nuclear program, if managed carefully, could spare the region and the world a very real threat and dramatically improve the long-term national security of the United States.
How sick are you?
Jan, habibji, how sick are YOU!
The governments of the world should know that . . . Islam will be victorious in all the countries of the world, and Islam and the teachings of the Qur'an will prevail all over the world. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in January 1979
• We must strive to export our Revolution throughout the world. Ayatollah Khomeini on March 21, 1980
• We don't shy away from declaring that Islam is ready to rule the world. . . . We must believe in the fact that Islam is not confined to geographical borders, ethnic groups, and nations. It's a universal ideology that leads the world to justice. . . . We must prepare ourselves to rule the world." Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on January 5, 2006
• "It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to erase Israel from the map of the region." —Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in January 2001
• "One bomb is enough to destroy Israel. . . . In due time the Islamic world will have a military nuclear device." —Iranian president Rafsanjani in December 2001
• "Rafsanjani Says Muslims Should Use Nuclear Weapon against Israel." —Headline from the Iran Press Service, December 14, 2001
• "Israel must be wiped off the map." —Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on October 26, 2005
• "God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism." —Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on October 26, 2005
• "Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come, and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started." —Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on June 2, 2008, marking the 19th anniversary of the death of Ayatollah Khomeini
• "Get ready for a world minus the U.S." —Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on June 4, 2008
@patrick
Why don't you go jump off a bridge and pretend you were throwing tea into the Boston Harbor?
Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer
If my noting facts bother you enough to threaten me–tooooooooooooooooooooo bad buddy.
Fareed...u are the diplomat pars excellence....Iran is never going to quit unless and likely the US is ahniliated from the scene. you need to grow up son......the only way to deal with violence and terrorisits is to think like terrorists and that means blowing Iran into dust!
Perhaps a bomb up your rear end would be a sensible way of annialating your war mongering rear end!
Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer
More threats and more violence?
Blah blah u are real dumb aren't you?
25% unemployment, no medical-dental-drug-ancillary services, high cost of living, reduced FICA payments & services, crappy education where all employment is reserved for the CHOSEN women (90%) & then men, hunger, no replacement of crumbling infra and super structures, unfunded deficits and obligations by at all levels of government ($500 trillion) service debts that are coming out of GENTILE ears, NO conversion to the better Metric system, taxes that caused tsunamis of poverty, despair, homelessness, loss of homes, hunger in the erstwhile bread basket of the world, wanton destruction of US family structure, invasions of privacy at all levels of government, near-total depletion of US natural resources (gas, oil, topsoil, minerals, water, etc), pollution, 150,000/year deaths by profit-minded dorktors, MRSA, Oxycontin and addictive drugs aplenty, cost of cleaning up our ecology, including our soil, lakes, shores, depletion of US underground resources, horrible global-warming weather related disasters etc!! Goodness, the ‘appointed’ moron executives even INTENTIONALLY make all products and parts difficult and expensive to replace, and most citizens can’t even afford a jalopy to get to work! And at every level of our lives we are conspiratorially robbed by the ethnic legal, judicial and executive thieves so that they can lord it over us while we pay with our blood! This financial mess was caused by the CHOSEN of WAIL Str: let them fix it! Instead, the remaining Gentile money is being dutifully collected by the SLAVE US Imperial Military and sent to Genocide-Committing CHOSEN Israel, at least $100 billion in Stealth bombers, Iron Dome missiles and other weaponry just last year!
Agreed. This is not what any of the founding fathers would have agreed to.
You really got to leave this country and go to Burma and really fast.
Why?
Hard to understand what you're trying to say. where did you find those stuffs and what TV have been watching lately?
Some people also read when it comes to the news. On top of that they might even have the audacity to read news from a foreign country. This countries media is bought and paid for. You are watching "programming".
Zakaria, you are attempting to look at the world through rose colored glasses. Those that hold power in Iran, know that time is running out, and that by attaining a nuclear weapon, they believe they can continue their hold on power. Failure to obtain an atomic weapon soon, and a change in government that represents the Iranian people, will spell disaster for the ruling mullahs of Iran.
You mentioned that Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has consolidated his hold on power, and thus will be amenable to a deal with the west regarding nuclear enrichment. The opposite is most likely. Internal and external forces are working to topple the government, no more so than an energy rich country like Iran, so that acquiring the notion of atomic weapon security is paramount.
They don't need nuclear weapons to have power. They have oil. They decided to inflict their own sanctions and now there is a possible "deal". Is this a coincidence? They have the power to uproot our oil markets and with it the entire structure of western economies. They are seriously hurting now so they have decided to take a diplomatic route as well. We are already in world war three. The mad grab for remaining resources is on. We are losing. Instead of designing our way out of it with renewable fuels we continue to fight unobtainable battles with unreasonable enemies against the will of it's own people. We want sensible solutions.
Fear mongering Garbage!
Come out of the cave.
Iran needs nuclear power to generate electricity to conserve their natural resource -oil and also an atomic weapon to defend that natural resource that international corporations ( Wall Street Monopoly Game players ) are eying for privetization and outright theft like in Libya. The oil belongs to the Iranian people and they should benefit from it, not international corporation oligarchs. Sanctions will not work. They will get the nuclear weapons whether we like it or not.. I would be surprized if they do not have it already. It should have been their government's priority to be able to defend their country from foreign warmongering and possible intervention. They do not want to be another Libya and play along with MONOPOLY GAME, called globalism , to the detriment of their people.
You are sooooo wrong! Iran could develop their natural gas supply, which will go a long way to preserving their oil reserves. Nuclear radiation is not healthy for human beings.
How naive art thou, Zakaria?
Fareed. You discredited your entire article with the last word you posted "Republicans", but when you are a sycophant for George Soros and Pres. Obama it is understandable. To say that this government has negotiated or handled with skill with the countries listed you have lost your reasoning. They will do everything in their power to bring about the downfall of the United States of America.
Fareed should be straight to the point! This country would be better off if all republicans and teacups were given a one way ticket to Syberia!
hehehe...
Why are we so naive to think that all other countries, and especially other governments, value the same things we do? Negotiating with Iran and North Korea is like walking through a field filled with land mines. And we're so eager to run through it, giving aid along the way, thinking we can buy friends. There are several countries on the planet that want nothing more than our entire destruction. And there are governments that not only oppress, but starve their people to retain power. While it is certainly worth the effort to engage countries in discussions, it is naive to think that logic that works in places like the US will be convincing in all other parts of the world. Besides, it also seems rather arrogant for the US to say who should and should not be able to develop nuclear capabilities, since we're the only country to detonate an atomic bomb on another country in the history of this planet.
You are referring to America when you say "oppress and starve" right? There are several countries that have the position that Isrealies have no right to steal land from other people. They are willing to negotiate and share. Isreal is not. They are taking the high ground and winning the minds of the global community.
I was actually thinking of north Korea... I am not a big fan of Israel or just about anybody in the middle east. I struggle with "the end justifies the means" that is so common. Just a different mindset...
Even if they agree to only a 3.5% to 5% enrichment program...those reactors will over time create weapons grade material in the rods....and the outside nations..the east, west, north,south...must keep an eye on all rods...no storage of old rods should be allowed...and every kg of material must be accounted for...Even Russia could not do that..And have the U.S. been able to account for every kg of our reactor material...I don't think so..so how could we do it in Iran?...Maybe the only way is if Iran does not control it's own reactor..but the outside nations do...many of the worlds power plants are run by non-domestic employees, corporations, other nations...that includes providing guards and security to those power plants...
It only takes about 16 kg of weapons grade material to make a weapon...
OK! Then perhaps we should make it 2.5% enriched uranium! Or perhaps 1%? Or .5%? Or 0.1%? Moron!
One Iranian newspaper said in an editorial on Sunday that it already detected signs of a compromise, believing Western officials were no longer opposed – in private at least – to Iran's "right to enrich" uranium at least to the 3 to 5.5 percent that is enough for making electricity but not bombs.
I'm sure that the reader will notice that at the end of the article liberal internationalist Democrat Zakaria compares Republicans unfavorably with hard-line Iranian mullahs who threaten to obliterate Israel and used slaughter to repress political dissent. His credibility has to be viewed in that light.
And what part of that is wrong? You are people that shoot congresspeople in the head, starve and degrade your neighbors and ensure the budget for an unstoppable federal military. You torture people and kill children of foreign countries only to prove control. Then you go home and eat a big porkfilled supper and sleep like a baby.
In THAT case, I find credibility assured but I continue this analogy on out to include ALL politicians – paid liars, cheats and thieves. I do NOT believe a one of them anymore. And taking this stance, I am seldom wrong.
As I said, the best republican is a dead one!
hehehe....
A few facts... Iran does NOT have a history of invading other countries. Israel is not the 51st state. Israel is an apartide nation that hurds people into ghettos and takes away all their rights and freedoms along with their land and water. This is truly non of the US business. Our military is for our protection and defense and we are not being threatened in anyway shape or form. Once again we are being used by Israel to fight their battles, use our money and lives of our young... who is in control of whom? Israel claims to be our friend.. well yea... They take $6,000,000,000 a year from us, money we borrow from communist china with interest to give to them... but they attack our navy (USS LIBERTY), spy on us and fill our media with their propaganda. Time for the US to worrry about the US... if Israel wants war after war after war that is their business I just don't want to pay for it.
"Israel is not the 51st state. Israel is an apartide nation that hurds people into ghettos and takes away all their rights and freedoms along with their land and water."
We have ever stated that " Israel is not the 51st state."
Israel is one of the most open societies in the world. Out of a population of 6.7 million, about 1.3 million — 20 percent of the population — are non-Jews (approximately 1.1 million Muslims, 130,000 Christians and 100,000 Druze).1
Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights; in fact, it is one of the few places in the Middle East where Arab women may vote. Arabs currently hold 8 seats in the 120-seat Knesset. Israeli Arabs have also held various government posts, including one who served as Israel's ambassador to Finland and the current deputy mayor of Tel Aviv. Oscar Abu Razaq was appointed Director General of the Ministry of Interior, the first Arab citizen to become chief executive of a key government ministry. Ariel Sharon's original cabinet included the first Arab minister,Salah Tarif, a Druze who served as a minister without portfolio. An Arab is also a Supreme Court justice.
Arabic, like Hebrew, is an official language in Israel. More than 300,000 Arab children attend Israeli schools. At the time of Israel's founding, there was one Arab high school in the country. Today, there are hundreds of Arab schools.2
In 2002, the Israeli Supreme Court also ruled that the government cannot allocate land based on religion or ethnicity, and may not prevent Arab citizens from living wherever they choose.
@Patrick...LOL!!! Dude you are sooooo Israeli – trying so hard to make a case to push America into yet another war that it is not even funny. And building walls around Palestinians (concentration camps), denying all rights, killing Palestinian children, and taking over their property never happens in your dreamland. Yo chosen one, let us worry about our own interests. We know what is good for America. Fight your own wars. And oh btw, there are many Jews in Iran and they are highly successful, and hold positions in the government. But cowards like you will never acknowledge that.
Seriously, In a televised address on Al-Hekma TV last week, Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad basically acknowledged that the roots of most "Palestinians" are elsewhere in the Middle East, and that the Palestinian label is only a thin veneer.
Those pushing for a Palestinian state try to paint the Palestinian Arabs as somehow distinct from the Arabs round-about, and therefore in need of their own state. Not so, said Hammad. "Every Palestinian, in Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots – whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere. We have blood ties."
More than that, Hammad stated that the true regional background of most "Palestinians" is not in "Palestine."
"Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half is Saudis," exclaimed the Hamas minister.
Hammad's remarks were undoubtedly never intended for a Western audience. Rather, he was pleading with Egypt and other neighboring states to supply Hamas-ruled Gaza with free fuel, which Hammad said Hamas would use "in order to continue to wage Jihad."
Seriously, Iran's Jewish community is confronted by contradictions. Many of the prayers uttered in synagogue, for instance, refer to the desire to see Jerusalem again. Yet there is no postal service or telephone contact with Israel, and any Iranian who dares travel to Israel faces imprisonment and passport confiscation. Before the revolution, Jews were well-represented among Iran's business elite, holding key posts in the oil industry, banking and law, as well as in the traditional bazaar. The wave of anti-Israeli sentiment that swept Iran during the revolution, as well as large-scale confiscations of private wealth, sent thousands of the more affluent Jews fleeing to the United States or Israel. Those remaining lived in fear of pogroms, or massacres.
Seriously, Testimony from Jews who have left Iran suggests more serious problems than those cited by Jews inside the country. In written testimony to a congressional subcommittee in February 1996, an Iranian Jew complained of being imprisoned for two years on trumped-up charges of spying for Israel. He also said his arrest was preceded by harassment at work and pressure to convert to Islam. Inside Iran, Jews say that they frequently receive alarmed telephone calls and letters from relatives in the United States concerned about their well-being, but that they themselves do not feel physically endangered. Their major complaint is the inability to visit family in Israel, and what they say is inadequate funding for Hebrew schools, which are administered by the Iranian Ministry of Education.
Although many Jews hold jobs in government ministries or within state-owned firms, they say they are unlikely to rise to top positions. In addition, Iran's strict Islamic law, or "sharia," contains many discriminatory provisions toward non-Muslims.
@azlib
Very well stated! This world needs more educated people like you!
HAHAHAHAHA...
Oh, – I – trust these guys, uh huh. Yeah sure. Oh course they'll do EXACTLY what they say. Bad joke. No punchline.
As long as we keeping talking, the Iranians are getting just what they want, more time evading the inspectors.
The Iranians are trying to buy more time to elude inspectors? Are you the one who wrote Colen Powell's 2002 speech to the UN about Iraq allegedly hiding WMD's and evading inspectors? Moron!
It's easy to make deals with people who have not the slightest notion of honor. But when you make the deal, what do you have?
@jim
Please don't talk about f-ing "honor!" The republicans deliberately lied to the American people, the UN and the world community about bogus WMD's in Iraq and murdered thousands of American soldiers and near a quarter million Iraqis in the process and continue to stall progress in Washington and you're talking about Iran lacking honor? Please go screw your f-ing self!
I don't care if Iran tries to make a bomb or even succeeds. Just so long as they know that the day they announce they have one they get nuked. Or the day we certify they have one, announced or not, they get nuked. Or the day they use one, they get nuked. Mutual assured destruction works fine between nations when both have nukes, so my prescription for an absolute guaranteed response ought to work on a nation that knows it will have at most one shot, even if they were actually insane.
And is Iran actually insane? Because a nuclear device going off anywhere in the Middle East, even Tel Aviv, would kill more Muslims than Israelis, and would drop death on the prevailing winds maybe even into Iran itself. So even if the government there has a martyr complex, it would not like it to be at the hands of their own outraged citizenry. I for one doubt they are actually THAT crazy. After all, their one bomb, and their guaranteed destruction, would not go far toward settling things their way.
Nothing like a complex nuclear Mexican standoff. I'm telling ya, best solution ?, bring back Moses and move Israel out of there. Where you ask ? Simple. Step #1 – buy a chunk of Mexico. They could always use the money. Step #2 – move all the Cubans to Mexico. They get along great and like helping each other anyhow. Step # 3 – move all the Jews to Cuba. It's an island far removed and isolated from the middle east, and America has no real issues getting along with the Jews (and there's not much chance of them pulling a Palestine in Florida). Step # 4 – declare Jerusalem it's own country sort of like Vatican city to appease all the religious concerns, and then sell off the rest of Israel to the highest neighboring bidders. There ya go, problem solved.
The solution is simple–war. And we have to get rid of that Muslim Odumbo. I mean, I'm a loyal republican. I believe in reducing the debt and I'm socially conservative. We have to repeal that health care mandate, for one thing. It's just Nazi communism. And we have to cut back on the debt. But, also, abortion is pure evil. We have to stop that. It's a million babies a year. So, come on, let's pass a law to outlaw it and then as a nation we can force those one million mothers to go through the mandatory nine month birthing process and also make them all pay the required 30-50 thousand bucks each per birth. I know most won't be able to pay. So, I'm okay with adding a trillion dollars to the national debt per year, which it will add up to after about ten years have passed or so. After all, someone has to pay for the million births a year–$50 to $100 billion a year–and the room and board and schooling of all the million more extra democrats born each year. And, yes, they'll all be democrats. After all, we republicans are moral. We wouldn't have babies like that.
It's a similar situation with Iran. I want to save money and reduce the debt. But, all that we can do with Iran is go to war. After all, if we deal, we're a bunch of Nazi loving communist Neville Chamberlain pansies. War. War I say! WAR! Actually, actually, who cares about the stupid debt anyway! We have to have a war! So what if it will cost a trillion dollars in the end. We'll do what we did with Iraq–we'll work up everyone into a frenzy to get the war going and then no one will notice or care when we fund it by passing the cost to our kids. And, who cares about the hit to our economy from the $10+ increase per gallon of gas. If that adds a trillion in losses, so what. We'll do what we always do when we're at war–borrow money from and go into massive debt with our good friends the Communists. We'll gut programs like medicare and social security. We'll give more tax cuts to the higher wage earners. Just like we did last time. And then, when the war is over, and the democrats again take over the government, we'll be able to start once again crying about the debt, just like we started to do a couple of years back.
Hey, at the very least can we have some more weapons and vastly increase the defense budget? We can cut back on the social programs for the middle class and the poor. But, we can't risk slowing the economy at the same time. So, we'll also give the job creators even more tax cuts. I know, I know! We'll also track down the 50% of Americans who are too poor to pay taxes and make them pay their "fair" share, like we've been hinting at for so long.
Yes, I am a loyal tax cutting, debt-reducing republican.
Romney 2012. Support the Gumpification of America!
You are a fake. You are no Republican. You are not even an American. You are an Israeli propagandist. And it shows. Dude, we don't speak about politics the way you write. So you are a fake and it shows.....and neither Romney nor others have said that going to war is the only option. You are trying to confuse people and you are not doing a good job at it.
What did LoyalRepublican say that leads you to call him "a fake".
If you make a statement, back it up with examples.
@Patrick
Ron Paul....isn't he a loyal Republican? Or do you think that only AIPAC funded, sell out, neocon Republicans are the only ones whose opinions count. And again, Romney never said that war is the only option. Your Israeli buddy above, faking to be an American, said that.
Yep, I do thoroughly support the Israeli view. Can't you tell? A fake Republican? Never heard of one of those before. Those just don't exist in this day and age. Also, I am indeed an American. Need to see my birth certificate? I think your chocolates are calling.
Romney 2012 Let's Gumpify America together.
Seriously, I have never made any comment about Ron Paul or AIPAC. You seem to have invented or lied about this whole conversation. If you want to discuss anything with me, base it on what I say.
Seriously, you should stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking before it turns you into a mushroom.
Loayal Republican My deriere. You are nothing more than an Obama stooge trying to blindlly stir up hate towards republicans.
Blindly stirring up hate. Hey, I'm a loyal republican. That's what I do. Calling me an Obama stooge. I'm a republican. I'm not an Obama stooge. I'm a Romney stooge. And you can't just be mildly for Romney, either. To be a loyal republican, you have to be severely for him–indeed, you have to be so severely for him that it's borderline imbecilic.
Romney 2012. In support of the gumpification of America.
@Unloyal republican
I hope you get struck by lightning! Better yet by a f-ing truck!
Truck? Lightning? What's all this stuff. This is sciency stuff. Next thing you'll be trying to tell us is that evolution is real, that we all evolved from chattering, feces throwing, small minded chimps. What utter nonsense. We're republicans and we don't believe in this stuff.–we have never evolved, period.
Romney 2012. Let America be gumpified!
Ron Paul..... Is he a Democrat?
Zakaria wants Iran to have the bomb. It's the only explanation. Nobody is this naive.
Every article he writes on it is a justification to do nothing or play into their delaying tactics.
How many articles will zakaria write about Iran? It's boring. Don't get me wrong. I do think that zakaria is a brilliant guy with great knowledge about foreign affairs. But he's forced to just right about few of middle-eastern countries, n.korea, Pakistan and afghanistan. Those are all the countries that CNN cares about. Go visit bbc.com. You will know what a true news website should look like.
Fareed is not a brilliant man. Nothing he writes ever makes any sense. This article, for instance, has just placed the blame of Iran's juvenile delinquency on American republicans.
Absolute shining brilliance, that is.
"But if Iran does make concessions . . . Republicans in Washington, could be an obstacle . . ."
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There you go again, Zakaria - exposing yourself again for the biased so-called "journalist" you are. Excuse me, but what relaxed sanctions has the Obama administration even hinted at thus far? Do you have some kind of inside information? (Well, of course you do, silly me, 'cause you're clearly Obama's chosen mouthpiece). Gimmeabreak!
What are you smoking to think a deal is possible. Here is exactly how things will go. Iran will go into negotiations. They'll set some demands they know the west cannot accept, but actively talk about them. Over time they will accept or conced on some points, just so the negotiators feel they are making process. But this is all merely to give them time to move forward with their program or devise and implement ways to hide aspects of it should they reach an agreement. The goal is to give the soft hearted in the West enough of a feeling that a deal is possible and progress is being made, such that they have enough time to meet their goals or hide the project so deep it can never be found or hit. For anyone to not see this ploy and understand this is what they are doing, well, I can only assume they suffered some sort of traumatic brain injury.
Zakaria, your such an Arab ass kisser, I wonder why? And how would you Iike us to keep tabs on what Iran is producing or has already produced? You think they don't know how to hide from UN inspectors? Maybe they could promise us with their hand on the Koran? They are the largest state sponser of terrorism in the world and you think we can trust them? You have alot to learn.
Fareed Zakaria is the front man for the Iranian Ayatollahs. He, like Mohamed ElBaradei, works in the Iranian Movement to build the Bomb. They put up a cloud of compromise and misinformation while the Iranian scientists come closer to :
"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
Julius Robert Oppenheimer
Wow, where do you get those drugs?
If that's your response, maybe you should work on your education.
Deal possible only if Israel is kept out of negotiations.
Yup, you have made this identical statement in other discussions.
Yup.
why would we be optimistic? Iran has no problem with lying to people in order to further their own agenda. Why would we believe or trust anything that they say? Inspections ... trust but verify ... is the only way to proceed from here.
Let me see whi lies?
Bill Clinton? George Bush? Bararack Obama?
Let us throw in Few Congressmen and Senators?
And Oh, do nto forget most Americans routinely lie about ilegal traffic light or taxes or returnign merchainde or Inever cheated on my wife or husband>
Iran is in nice company with Our culture.
I assume you are speaking of the Pakistani culture. You assassinate your leaders, don't you? You murder your women and blame it on Sharia Law.
Iran most likely has already made a bunch of highly enriched uranium and has hid it. so now they can allow inspectors in as they finished the weapon enrichment. and tucked it out of sight. inspectors will now see nothing. anyone who thinks otherwise is nuts.
it is not possible to do this. running centrifuges in a configuration that would result in highly enriched uranium would leave tell tale traces that can be identified by scientific means. the iaea already found traces of highly enriched uranium on some of iran's very first generation enrichment hardware, and traced the residue back to pakistan.
@ouy
Iran has hidden enriched uranium? Really? And where might that hiding place be? Perhaps where Iraq hid their WMD's? Moron!
Fareed is a typical liberal. As long as the enemy SAYS they're willing to negotiate, they're happy.
While the Ayatollah's laugh their asses off.
Whatever deal they make they will break same as NK to play the same game and stall and build the nukes behind our backs. What a crock is the UN and USA for allowing another country to get nukes. By 2100 AD there will be hundreds of countries with nukes at the rate they are going the and the world a very unsafe place for our great great grand kids.
Fareed Zakaria is correct! The divisive and disruptive un-American domestic republican/teacup terrorists in Washington will continue do everything withing their means to step in the way and stall progress and create more and more roadblocks to see to it that the Obama administration is not successful in bringing about a peaceful solution to the Iranian crisis! But I'm confident that they will continue to fail in their attempts to undermine the Obama administration like they have tried to do with this administration's domestic and foreign policies! I believe some idiot posted that the democrats are trying to prevent the republicans from bringing about peace in the world but you've got to be mentally insame to make such an outrageous and pointless charge when its the republicans who have destablised the world with two illegitimate wars in Iraq and Afghanistan! I agrre with Fareed and I personally believe that the best republican is a dead one!
You've fallen in Zakaria's trap. It's not our fault. It's not the Republicans' fault. Throughout history, the Muslims have always blamed others. The don't want an agreement, or peace. It is their stated goal to destroy Israel, and while they talk to us in public, they laugh at us in private.
There will be no deal with Iran because Iran doesn't want a deal. They want to talk, and stall, and talk nice, and stall some more, and refuse to allow inspections and continue to work on The Bomb. The article is meaningless - just as meaningless as article by other "Middle East experts" who tell us what a deal with the "Palestinians" might comprise. The only explanation for this nonsense is: Zakaria is paid by the word.
Then if its worthless to talk with the Iranians to try to bring about a peaceful solution, then we might as well shut down the UN!
Why does Israel have any more right to nuclear weapons than Iran? Two theocracies led by dangerous nutcases. One illegally occupies territory, holding millions starving under siege. One came to power by overturning a US-installed right wing nutcase military dictatorship. The other was installed by the US and UK in a campaign for access to crude oil. Now it begins to make sense. Right wing nutcase theocracies with "secret" nuclear bombs are okay as long as the US put them there.
Because Israel is more self restrained. The nuts running Iran want to bring about destruction of the world so that they may finally gat back their beloved Imam.
You state that Israel is like Iran "Two theocracies led by dangerous nutcases." Either you are ignorant or you lie.
Israel operates under a parliamentary system as a democratic country with universal suffrage. The President of Israel is the head of state, but his duties are largely ceremonial. A Parliament Member supported by a majority in parliament becomes the Prime Minister, usually the chairman of the largest party. The Prime Minister is the head of government and head of the Cabinet. Israel is governed by a 120-member parliament, known as the Knesset. Membership in the Knesset is based on proportional representation of political parties. Parliamentary elections are held every four years.
All Israeli citizens 18 and older — regardless of religion, gender or race — enjoy the right to vote free from intimidation. In fact, in Israel’s current Parliament (Knesset) three parties have mostly Arab voters and office-holders. Israel’s vibrant political system ensures that virtually every segment of society and every viewpoint can be represented. Parties reflect a broad array of ideological, ethnic and religious groupings.
Israeli citizens are actively encouraged to participate in the democratic process. Election Day is a national holiday, and free transportation is available to voters. Arrangements to vote are even made for prison inmates and those who are hospitalized.
Israel’s first nationwide elections were held in January 1949, soon after the War of Independence, with the first-ever Knesset meeting in February 1949.
I generally agree with Zakaria. But not this time.
Internal politics in Iran and a culture in which dishonesty is accepted to achive an objective will prevent a true solution from ever being negotiated. Miltary destruction, as undesirable as it is, is the only viable solution. I don't like it, but that's the way it is.
Any deal with Iran is faux on their part and stupid on our part for even thinking about it.
Rule of Life: NEVER make deals with those who lie without compulsion or conscience.
tckr83 – you seen to be an authority on anything BUT the truth. iran didnt LIE about the fordo plant. it didnt disclose the information. and WHY did it not disclose the information? because the NPT said they didnt have to. Iran was in compliance with the NPT with regards to fordo when the world found out about it, because iran is under no obligation to announce it until 6 months prior to the introduction of nuclear materials. a milestone that was far from being reached when the existance of the plant was anounced. so what you should be saying is the security council put additional sanctions on iran after iran FOLLOWED the NPT.
Yeah right. A deal with Hitler was possible also, just ask Chamberlain...How did that one work out ?? These CNN liberals are totally out to lunch....
NO DEAL WITH THE TERRORISTS ALLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You're more nuts than I gave you credit for Mr. Zakaria !
ZAKARIA HAS OPINIONS ON EVERYTHING – AN EXPERT ON NOTHING .. HE KNOWS NOTHING .. HE SITS AT HIS COMPUTER AND TAPS OUT LINE AFTER LINE OF OPINION. FLIPPIN' OVER PUBLISHED DRIVEL.
Spot on!
Farred is a reporter.
The definition of a reporter is:
re·port·er /rɪˈpɔrtər, -ˈpoʊr-/ Show Spelled[ri-pawr-ter, -pohr-] Show IPA
noun
1. a person who reports.
2. a person employed to gather and report news, as for a newspaper, wire service, or television station.
3. a person who prepares official reports, as of legal or legislative proceedings.
A reporter can be an expert in his/her field but it is not required.
Zakaria knows a great deal of nothing about everything.
HISTORY IS THE BEST BAROMETER THOUGH LESS THAN 100% RELIABLE BASIS TO PREDICT .. THE IRANIANS WILL BOB AND WEAVE, LIE & LAUGH THEIR WAY TO MORE ADO ABOUT NOTHING. THEY WILL ONLY RESPECT FORCE. SHUT DOWN THEIR ENTIRE ECONOMY UNTIL THEY COME FORWARD ON THEIR KNEES. UNTIL TRUE RULER AYATOLLAH ALI KHAMENIEI MAKES IT HAPPEN, THERE'S NO DEAL. PRESIDENT MAHMOUD AHMADIINEJAD IS AN ANNOYING FRONT MAN, BUT HE WAS NOT LEGITIMATELY ELECTED ..
PREZ RPON REAGAN PROVED ONLY DEALING FROM STRENGTH IS WHEN A FOE RESPECTS YOU ENOUGH TO COME TO THE TABLE. NORTH KOREA AND IRAN WILL NOT DO SO UNTIL THEIR ECONOMIES ARE KNOCKED SOOO FAR DOWN THAT THEY CRAWL ON THEIR KNEES.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad “No they did not wake up in the morning. America has been against us for over 30 years. Who supported Saddam for eight years in the war against Iran? For eight years it was America and some European governments. They’re continuing the same policy. I have a serious question to ask – have the policies of some European countries and America in the past 32 years been right against Iran? Have we ever been an aggressor to another country? Have we ever attacked another country? Have we ever started a war at the borders of Europe? No. We have always hoped to have fair and friendly relationships. I believe that the European leaders should know that the Shah will never come back to Iran.”
it is time for the great satan to kick some sense into the persian cancer.......
The First Persian Gulf War (also known as the Iran-Iraq War)—(1980-1988) – In 1975, Iraq and Iran came to an agreement on the disputed Shatt al-Arab waterway which provides Iraq’s only outlet to the sea. In exchange for Iran stopping support for Kurdish rebels, Iraq agreed to share the Shatt al-Arab with Iran. This and other disputes over their common border, plus the belief that the 1979 revolution had weakened Iran, led Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to launch an invasion of Iran on September 22, 1980. After initial successes, the Iraqi army ground to a halt and soon retreated under repeated assaults by the numerically larger Iranian Army and Revolutionary Guards. After the Iranians pushed the war into Iraq, Saddam’s forces began using chemical weapons. By 1988, both nations faced exhaustion and, after nearly a million casualties between them, agreed to end the conflict.
The Tanker War -(1984-1988)–Iran and Iraq each attacked oil tankers and oil facilities in the Persian Gulf in an effort to damage each other's economy. The United States entered the fray in 1987 by "reflagging" several Kuwaiti oil tankers, thereby providing them with American legal and military protection. Iran continued to attack these ships, provoking violent American responses.
Iran's Proxy War with Israel -(1980s-Present)–Iran openly supports and arms Israel's enemies, Syria, Hamas, and Hezbollah. Israel and the United States consider Iran to be a party to the warfare waged by Hamas, Hezbollah, and the tensions with Syria.
PEJAK Kurdish Rebellion -(1998-Present)–The Party for a Free Life in Iranian Kurdistan (PEJAK) is a Kurdish guerrilla force fighting for freedom from Iran. Believed to be supported by the Kurds in Iraq as well as by the United States.
Proxy War with the United States -(Current)–Iran and the United States are, for all intents and purposes, engaged in a mutual proxy war against each other. The United States alleges that Iran is supplying weapons, training, money, and cross-border bases to anti-American forces in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran is meanwhile alleging that the United States is arming and encouraging Kurdish, Azeri, Arab (Khuzistani), and Baluchi militants in rebellion against Tehran. This all serves as a backdrop for the possibility of a new war between the United States and Iran. Such an "Iran War," in addition to the current Iraq War and Afghanistan War could destabalize the Middle East and jeopardize the West's oil supplies.
Jundallah Sunni Rebellion -(2003-Present)–Peoples Resistant Movement of Iran (PRMI), better known by the name Jundallah, is a Sunni movement based in Iran's southeastern Baluch region. Jundallah is waging a guerrilla and terrorist war against the Tehran govennment.
2009 Presidential Election Protests and Violence-(2009)Though not yet at the level of a war, the massive protests against the governement of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad following the June, 2009 presidential election. Ahmadinejad won in a landslide over his reformist rival, but many in Iran claimed that the election was rigged and the results fraudulent.
“No they did not wake up in the morning. America has been against us for over 30 years. Who supported Saddam for eight years in the war against Iran? For eight years it was America and some European governments. They’re continuing the same policy. I have a serious question to ask – have the policies of some European countries and America in the past 32 years been right against Iran? Have we ever been an aggressor to another country? Have we ever attacked another country? Have we ever started a war at the borders of Europe? No. We have always hoped to have fair and friendly relationships. I believe that the European leaders should know that the Shah will never come back to Iran.”
iran has done nothing wrong in sending "fighters" to afghanistan and iraq to kill americans! whats wrong with funding, training and arming hezbollah and hamas and providing them with rockets to send into civilian areas in israel ,daily? and why should the US be aggravated about the iranians arranging the killing of our marines in their barracks in lebanon? i mean, what is wrong with these actions? They are just friendly pranks!
Check this out you don't see that in CNN http://www.presstv.ir/detail/235172.html
This mornings program reflected a side of you so pro-democratic that it was a shocker. In the past you have attempted to show objectivity, but you lost it today.
I Like you say, there are a lot of people paying the price for the faults of others in Europe and the United States. I wonder if the same could be said for the people of Iran who are paying the price in their ordinary everyday lives for the imposition of sanctions on Iran which were made last year, the trade embargo, the distant foreign relations that you have with many countries outside Iran. I’m not saying all, but many. Isn’t it the ordinary people of Iran who are paying the price here in their ordinary everyday lives?
its too bad the ordinary iranians wont stand up to their nutso rulers like the yemenis, egyptians, libyans, syrians, tunisians et al and convey their distaste for their ruler's statements and actions that have so far convinced the civilized countries of the world that the iranians are a danger to the rest of us.
I'm pretty sure Fareer Zakaria is on Iran's payroll.
No, he is on zionist payroll, he works for CNN
Speaking of crazy, as we saw during last week’s debates, Republicans are baying for war against Iran, seemingly heedless of the political, financial or economic risks involved. Israel, they chorus, is in mortal danger. For the Republican right, Israel often seems to be a more important issue than the United States.
But they don’t explain why Iran would risk nuclear evaporation from Israel’s mighty air, land and sea-based nuclear forces to launch a few nuclear weapons (which they may not even have, and which may or may not work) at Israel. Suicide is not high on Iran’s priority list.
A new element in the UN is the claim that a Russian scientist who supposedly worked on Iranian nuclear weapons explosive technology has defected and revealed all to western intelligence.
But investigative journalists now assert that the scientist may actually have worked in Russia on explosive technology to produce industrial diamonds, not nuclear weapons. This would be very embarrassing for Washington’s war party and for media agitating for war against Iran.
DIAMONDS?????? hehehe... Do you hehehe... have any proof? hehehe...
Oh my God, you were were not the smartest one in your litter, were you??
TEHRAN – The Iranian ambassador to the United Nations has said that Tehran will not negotiate with the major powers over its inalienable rights.
Ambassador Mohammad Khazaii made the remarks during an interview with the Washington-based radio network NPR on February 9.
The Islamic Republic of Iran is ready to engage in negotiations with the 5+1 group (the United States, Britain, France, Russia, China, and Germany), but it will not negotiate over its inalienable rights, Khazaii stated.
Furthermore, Iranian ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) says Iran is not after acquiring military atomic technology but resolute to continue with its nuclear energy program.
We “will never, ever suspend our activities, including [uranium] enrichment,” he added.
IT IS THE INALIENABLE RIGHT OF EVERY SOVEREIGN STATE IN THE WORLD, INCLUDING IRAN AS STATED IN NPT TO ENRICH URANIUM.
Iran is determined to continue nuclear energy program, US sanctions against Iran over its nuclear activities have been ineffective.
He also said that Tehran will send a letter to European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton, who represents the six major powers in nuclear negotiations with Iran.
Iran is ready to hold serious talks without preconditions, he added.
IRAN WILL REFUSE A BILETERAL MEETING WITH US DUE TO NO-DIPLOMATIC-RELATIONSHIP, SANCTIONS, US RHETORICS TO BOMB IRAN AND FLORIDA, AFGHANISTAN QURAN BURNINGS.
But those who think that Iran will change its logical and principled policy under the pressure of sanctions, threats are mistaken, Khazaii said, adding that the Islamic Republic has never made concessions on its absolute rights.
one of their "absolute rights" is to misjudge the resolve of the rest of the world, except maybe syria, and "go down the drain". good luck with your "absolute rights.
The rest of the world ? US and EU
Article IV of Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT)
1. Nothing in this Treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination and in conformity with Articles I and II of this Treaty.
2. All the Parties to the Treaty undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Parties to the Treaty in a position to do so shall also co-operate in contributing alone or together with other States or international organizations to the further development of the applications of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, especially in the territories of non-nuclear-weapon States Party to the Treaty, with due consideration for the needs of the developing areas of the world.
Article X. Establishes the right to withdraw from the Treaty giving 3 months' notice. It also establishes the duration of the Treaty (25 years before 1995 Extension Initiative).
UN CHARTER VII ARTICLE 51:
Provides for the right of countries to engage in military action in self-defense, including collective self-defense (i.e. under an alliance) FOR IRAN TO RETALIATE WITH EQUAL FORCE IF ATTACKED.
Fareed – Maybe yoiu can make a "deal with the devil" – but I prefer that we not. A common sense administration would not risk nuclear war – but I will almost defy you to show me a common sense administration anywhere in the world.
Thank god most of you morons posting here are not running this country or in any position of power. Whackos!
Deal with Iran? Well, any deal is a product of trust between participants. How you can trust Iran? They just try to buy time to make a bomb. They understand only force. Long war does not work. How about one powerful strike to destroy all their nuclear facilities?
Zakaria lives in Fantasy Land. He is so left of center he can't see reality. Any thing he has to say is a WOT and so full of factual errors they are not worth mentioning. How does this guy stay on the air ?
Ok. Start pointing out the factual errors he's making and then start giving us the "better" facts you claim to have.
Republicans, are you willing to raise taxes to pay for this war with Iran that you're advocating?
Or do you just plan to put it on the credit card like Iraq/Afghanistan?
Get a clue...we can't friggin' afford it. We need to stay out of these middle east quagmires we keep getting ourselves into.
After 8 years of the Republican approach, where did that get us?
Iran is still a threat, N. Korea is still a threat...and Iraq/Afghanistan are failed states.
Sorry, guys...you don't have much room to talk on this. We've tried your "axis of evil"/"shoot first" policy already.
Zakaria the little punk is just a moslem lover...the only way to deal with Iran is to nuke the place till it glows...Zakaria can be thrown in with the rest of the ragheads.
Why not extend the concept of the European Union and invite Iran to join?
My experience with the muslims here is at first they lie; then they call you names; and, finally, they pretend to be super anti muslims so that their fiends can express "islamaphobia."
Fareed turned out to be "right". An agreement was announced with Iran to..........hold another meeting in Iraq in the future. Great progress. Why was it necessary to meet in Istambul to schedule the meeting in Bagdad ?
Rest assured there will be many more "agreements" to hold more....meetings, until their technology is perfected, and then the talks will "break down".
Iran is Under and Over it already...they know they will make more money in nuclear energy products...but they can't do anything without being the newest CIA REHAB for agents who get caught...now CIA of any country is Lit and My Own Worst Enemy...Iran must be tired of all this immaturity...instead of an enemy they are a babysitter now...lol...but they are under and over it...I...I...
Farteed thinks he is the smartest guy in "main stream" media..
iran's nuclear program will one day soon have to be taken down. Better now than after they have nukes. fAREED IS DREAMING IN OBAMA TECHNICOLOR IF HE THINKS IRAN WILL REALLY AND TRULY BE HONEST ABOUT ANY SIGNED DEAL. Iran has spent over 2 decades and billions upon billions to make this weapons program happen; they are not going to shelve it. no way...fareed is really just shilling for obama to get re-elected.
The ONLY ones to blame for all this is squarely iran. Iran is producing them, iran is threatening another sovereign UN nation. PERIOD END OF STORY.
If US and others stop the applying a double standards to Iran, perhaps this global standoff would end. Let's start by subjecting Israel to IAEA inspections.
Israel and US talks about attacking Iran based on perceived threats from Iran.. Thats fine.... But when Iran says that it will attack Israel and US and european countries based on perceived threats from the these countries, thats a problem.. Why can't people just tone down rhetoric and consider peaceful options. If Iran thinks nuclear isreal is a threat why can't isreal take any steps to reduce their nuclear ammunition as a good will gesture and demand iran to scale down their nuclear program in return.. Think about it.. If Israel is worried about each of its muslim neighbors and even if they want to destroy every one of them how many nukes would they need.. 10.. 20... Why keep 80-200.. Reduce them.. Think about the money saved by both US and Russia(USSR) after the cold war and agreeing to reduce stockpiles and the # of active warheads and after both the coutries started making deposits into the "trust account".. Why can't it happen in the middle east.. between Israel and their neigbors..
I think peace and dialogue has its benefits.. We wont see results today or tomorrow.. But when everyone make deposits into the "trust account" it will be benficial in the long run.. Its always a good campaign trail topic for politicians to excite their base with all kinds of fiery rhetoric.. Its an exciting news item for news media to blow up the "perceived" threats out of proportion and increase readership.. And common man gets all fired up based on what they hear from news media and their politicians and thinks its all like playing a violent video game.. People who have experienced the effects of war from either side will understand and realize the futility of most wars.. There are rarely any true winners.. only "people who lost evrything " and "people who lost a little less"..
Iran is just like the US.
We have the President who seeks peace, and we have the hardline religious conservative extremist Republicans who want war and world domination.
The only difference is one extremist group is Muslim and the other "claims" to be Christian.
Well, they don't call their country the Republic of Iran for nothing. They don't call a part of their military the Iranian Republican Guard for nothing. They don't call their extremists "conservative" and "right wing" for nothing. After all, look who took over the country from the old Shah of Iran thirty years ago–the Iranian Republican Party. Look what happened over here when this party took the hostages–a sitting democratic president was ousted and a Republican president was voted into his place. The hostages were immediately released once a republican came into office. And, after the election, what happened: The U.S. became an arms supplier to Iran. You scratch my republican back.I'll scratch yours.
You sir, are an idiot.
agreed!
What's is the obsession with Iran?
Beats me!
Memories of 1979
Who, in their right mind, believes a single word coming out of the mouth of Fareed? I am sorry that he has lost all creditability.
I'm a Democrat...and frankly this is a crummy article with an awful ending. Republicans are not and have not been the problem. Once there is a DEAL, if they object to it, then they are in the wrong. But we need a DEAL first. Iran is playing Korea of the 1990s – 2000s, which Clinton nor Bush wasn't able to deal with anymore than Obama is able to deal with with Iran. They are playing us, but there is a chance at a compromise until there isn't...simple, so there is time. We should only use force when there is no option left. Obviously the Israelis think there is still time. No sense in calling each other names or placing the blame on the party out of power – for now. If the President fails to be perceived to be looking out for Israel he'll lose an important part of the base...prediction...we let loose the dogs of war after the election if Iran doesn't make a big move, when gas prices won't be a factor. FZ is one of the most naive pundits in modern times. Happy, happy, joy, joy. Only an internal eruption can stop the current regime plans. We shouldn't be talking up war, but we have to be realistic too.
Iran is fueling all the Unrest in Bahrain. They are trying to take it over.
Iran just made an illegal visit to The UAE's islands . Iran is trying to take claim of them as well.
Ultimately, the final Iranian incursion will be to attack Saudi Arabia with it's Shia in the oil rich east.
The US needs to further arm the Persian gulf arab states. The Arabs should take care of the iranian government right-after Israel bombs the nuclear facilities and rev guard.
Iran and Israel are is what all the rukis is about. The Arabs need to take action.
AIPAC isn't going to allow us to negotiate a settlement here. They will push the US politicians they own into sending sons and daughters of working class US citizens into another expensive, unwinnable war with Iran. Don't think for a second your opinion or vote matters, it doesn't.
A misguided proposal at worst, naive at best.
The world isn't Disneyland– these "solutions" will never be adopted.
Any deal on Israel's nukes yet?
There is one rule and only one rule when you are dealing with the Devil. You cannot trust the Devil to agree to anything you suggest and or want and expect him to fulfill his part of the agreement. He will not keep his part of the deal. The truth is not in him. The Iranians are part and parcel of the Devil and they will never agree to what the Free World wants from them. All the diplomacy in the world will never change their ultimate goal which is to destroy the land of Israel.
There is no deal with Iran, Fareed. NO DEAL. The wheels are in motion. Iran's government has doomed themselves. The United States will soon reign terror upon the mullahs and fundamentalists in Iran who want nothing but the destruction of everyone who doesn't pray toward Mecca 5 times a day.
It's only a question of time. The war is coming and it is most certainly Christians and Jews vs. Muslims. And it will be a slaughter of the most biblical proportions. You are fooled by the rhetoric, Fareed. There is nothing you can say to change the inevitable.
Iran is playing these fools like a fiddle and the so called "news" media doesn't have a clue.
Playing someone like a fiddle would imply that the fiddler is achieving his goals. Tell me, what has Iran achieved?
Fareed's scenario assumes it's all just some big misunderstanding, that Iran's not really after weapons. The whole thing does hinge on Iran agreeing to full and regular inspections, but everything points to a clandestine weapons program and a high probability that Iran will balk at real, complete inspections. Not pessimism in this case, Fareed – realism.
Fareed assumes the Iranians don't really want the bomb. In spite of the fact that everything they do enforces the belief that they do. I've heard of turning a blind eye...but c'mon.
you don't know any thing about Iran and middle east as most Iranian don't have a clear image of America and west!
Iran is not as dark as you depict. In Iran exists democracy though it's not ideal but in most of middle east countries don't exist any democracy.
The government that must compare with hitler is Israel that kills palestinians and ruins their homes, Not Iran! Iran don't attack any country but other countries attacked it freuqently!
Iran don't support terrorism but Saudi Arabia support Taleban and alghaede terrorists in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Suria. The government of America oppose to it just the time that their interests fall into the peril. And they don't understand this treatment with terrorism and use it for conflict with Iran or other groups risks Americans interests in long time.
and just one more thing! Iran is not Afghanistan or Iraq or Pakistan. Attack to Iran have inconceivable results for offensive!
wrong. war with Iran would go just about the same. hundreds of thousands of them dead. about 5-10 thousand of us dead. lots of guerrilla tactics and human shielding by the inferior country (Iran) resulting in tens of thousands of dead civilians, and a new puppet government put in place for Iran by the United States. That is how IT WILL go.
your head is in the sand.
they only understand force.
Oh, SHOVE IT where the "sun doesn't shine," CNN.
There **SHALL NEVER** BE a "nuclear deal" with Iran. Its just TOO DANGEROUS.
OUR COUNTRY, RIGHT OR WRONG.
1) Ahmedinijad is a PEASANT, much like Nikita Kruschev. In fact, BOTH dictators had to have their TRANSLATORS work "on-the-fly" because they spoke in such poorly-crafted colloquialisms. In FACT, Ahmedinijad DOESN'T SPEAK proper Farsi–the NATIONAL LANGUAGE of his own country!
2) Much like Nikita Kruschev, it matters NOT whether Iran *has* nuclear capability–ISRAEL HAS ALREADY SHOWN THEY CAN DESTROY IT–Even through a "backdoor" virus for Iran's computers. Just as the Soviet Bloc countries were "bluffing" with all of their showmanship of nuclear power–in FACT, Ronald Regan basically told Gorbachev that "we have more money and resources than YOU can afford to mine out of your own nation. Therefore, The United States SHALL win any confrontation." About SIX weeks later, the Soviet Union collapsed because they ran out of cash.
3) Similarly, Ahmedinijad is "bluffing"–and the United States and Israel SHALL call your bluff.
Iran is basically the same country that took our embassy hostage back in 1979 over 40 years ago. The real leadership of Iran is the same Ayatollah's that have been preaching that the destruction of the United States is a basic principle of their religion of hate for the last 40 + years. There is no way to negotiate with someone who only wants you dead.
The nutcase President Ahmadinejad is just a sideshow.
You will not get any negotiations between Republicans and Democrats either unless 1 party is willing to commit mass suicide to make the other happy. There is way too much hatred between the 2 parties for any solution involving both of them. I have listened to their name calling and rhetoric for years and I am sick and tired of both sides. We need real leadership who actually cares about this country and not just weather or not their party has all the power.
There is no deal. Stop making nuclear weapons and go back to making really nice rugs. You cant threaten to wipe out a country that neighbors you and then start enriching uranium towards the 90% weapons grade mark. Youre going to provoke that country; Israel; into attaching you to prevent that from happening. No one wants to see that. There are too many innocents involved and quite honestly, the U.S economy would crumble under the crippling oil prices that would bring. All you liberals who dont see this as a big deal are lucky that North Korea just failed their rocket launch. Because I guarantee you Iran would be buying that technology from them so that they have delivery capabilities. They need to stop building nukes, period. I dont want to see WW3 and neither should you
I's foolish to make deals with Moslems. They understand only the whip, and will stab you in the back at the first opportunity. It would be much better to force Iran to give up their nuclear plans as long as religious fanatics are in power. Maybe after the filthy mullah-regime is overthrown and secular Persians rule we can talk about accommodations but with fanatic Moslems – never.
I don't see where the Republcians enter into it. Does a deal with Iran require Congressional approval?
strange not s single well thought out comment from any conservative ... but that is to be expected ... facts: anti-Zionism does not mean genocidal maniac, it maintains a belief of the illegitimacy of the Israeli government ... perhaps the conservative dictionary defines it differently ... science & iaea monitor: the science is easy and well known and iaea has been allowed access to all facilities i.e. the radiological signatures are well known for all grades of enriched uranium from Iran ... it would appear the real problem is conservatives view that the US should be the global bully and impose American values on other peoples ... I wonder if that is what de Tocqueville meant when he wrote about American exceptionalism
theres anti zionism and then theres a threat from the two maniacs in charge to wipe Israel off a map. that means no nukes for you. As a U.S citizen, I dont want my country to get involved. I just ask them to leave Israel alone to do the job. they are more than capable of taking out the nuke facilities
What he meant was we are better than everyone else. Just because we know it and rub it in the rest of the world's face doesn't change the fact that it's true. We are better than you. We are better than everyone. And there is nothing you can do about it.
Reading at you comments I guess it's very easy talking about going to war with another country as long as someone else like your neighbor does it for you while you sit at the comfort of your couch at home watching tv. I wonder if you would have the same opinion if it came to drafting and you were sent to the front line, seeing the horrors of war. The problem with us Americans are that we are a closed society and we don't get out much. From that I mean how much all of you know about the Iranian people, their culture and their believes? I think it do all of us much benefit if we know them first before we passed a judgement and taking conclusions from reading a one sided media propaganda.
War is never easy. But you have to do what you have to do. If the people of Iran are worthy to be spared the horrors of war, they will replace their leaders. If they don't, we will do it for them. War has nearly bankrupted the U.S. in the last 12 years but we do it anyway because no one else will and there are a lot of Muslims... I mean maniacs on this planet who just want everyone to die. Someone has to kill those people.
Fareed @ Good Article ... I want to ask some of the commenter .. Who is giving chance to whom ? Here i am not biased or favor to Iran .. All i wanted to say is IRAN should be punished for disturbing the middle east but a coin has two sides and same like that we need to peacefully and i totally agree with US stand on IRAN and especially OBAMA , He is a practical Man. Why Israel is always provoking IRAN .IF ISRAEL is so peaceful and nice country then why they need nuclear weapons . I believe Israel is the main culprit.. They should back down and think peaceful .
This isn't a coin, bro. It's Iran and their desire to blow stuff up. We have to keep them from blowing stuff up. We will do that however we can.
You know very well that Israel has nukes to deter the Arab world from attacking it.
Simple and so far it is working.
I continue to believe it is the single most dangerous crisis that we confront today, well Mr. Zakaria
You couldn’t be further from the truth with that statement, why is no one talking about Israel and it’s nukes and submarines caring more nukes and the fact that that country is being run by a fanatic Netanyahu? Israel is an existential threat to Iran and the whole mid-east is in danger.
Israel has been attacked by every single one of its neighbors on several occasions, and even all of them at once a couple of times. They understand the nukes are a deterrent. We know they won't use them unless nukes are used on them.
With Muslims, that trust just can't ever exist.
America is a declining super power. It is a failed state with huge debt. Its debt will be 24 trillion dollar by 2015.
I agree.
Whenever I read Farred Zakaria, it makes me laugh. He must be high on something. "I continue to believe it is the single most dangerous crisis that we confront today."
One guy is telling how many times you are giving chance to IRAN. Who is giving chaance who ? Bullying should be
stopped !!
Hamdullilah, you are correct. Iran, Hezzbolah, Fatah, Hamas et al. have to accept Israel and stop trying to bully the Jews.
Smells like a set-up.
I did not post the above comment either. Psycho handle thief strikes again.
Rz
Only bullying any one are hindu Jew's, living by their hindu Judaism, criminal self center ism. hindered hindu Jew's criminal self entered, denier of truth.
Nothing more than another attack on the GOP hidden under a patsy idea. The problem is the GOP but a president that claims "bipartisanship" is when the other side gives a steak for peanuts. Our country is so divided due to the liberal loon who refuses to lead from the front in favor of leading from behind. An embarrassment to the loony left.
Farid, excellent perspective here! Iran is no villain and they certainly don't want to "wipe israel off the map" (a common mistranslation). The mistrust of Iran is completely unfounded- hopefully the smear stops.
Iran is not "the single most dangerous crisis that we confront today," read this:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/12/the-ally-from-hell/8730/
Looks like Fareed is smoking dope, again....
"Fareed Zakaria says there is a way around the deadlock with Iran"
There is a way around never being a true leader:
be a columnist & regularly spout out what others should do...
This is written from a weak feable minded liberal perspective. It's as if Iran already has the bomb. Sure Obama has given them every opportunity to build it but fact is they are not quiet there. Put the boot on the neck and stop it at all cost. Obama must lose November2012 or the Iranian bomb and WWIII is about guaranteed. Schlep.
How about trying Ron Paul's foreign policy? Apparently the foreign policy we've used the last 20 years hasn't worked.....
The foreign policy has not worked?
How has it not worked?
Explain yourself, genius.
Fareed, as always, I give you credit for drawing out the finest of lots. And this blog is no exception. Uncle Sam, is old, tired, not quite as healthy and sound of mind as he used to be, and even worse, he may have a few internal ailments on top of some financial worries. Let's all resolve to retire at least for awhile to look after him, and let Russia and China and the rest of the world referee the middle east turmoil. If we don't take care of ourselves, how will we ever be able to take care of anyone else ? Good night, and God Bless America.
The only way to a suspenseful deal is acceptance of enrichment in Iran but I doubt Us master (Israel) let it happen.
The only way to prevent war with Iran and prevent them from making Nuks, (which they already have shh) is to start by electing a new president.
EXACTLY.
You are all morons.
Of course, the US is engaged in an all out effort to take over and control the oil deposits in various countries – Iran – being one of them. It is, at the heart, a Resource War. While there was some marginal criticism of the 9-11 Terrorist Scam and the "so called" WMD invasion/occupation of Iraq – it is a strategy that works (think the largest and most permanent military base in the world). Peak Oil is upon us and so are thousands of drones over US soil. A better strategy might be for the people and politicians in the US to accept reality and put a solution in place besides world conquest. But that is about as likely as finding WMD in Iraq or a handful of terrorists defeating the US military.
It's people like Michael here that allowed North Korea to get the Nukes.
It doesn't matter, the "naive ones" got to play their foolish charade with Iran, the smart ones. Israel goes in next month and will wreak holy havoc. Cant wait. its the only language the Mullahs understand. Watch and learn. Again.
Wow!!!!!!!!! I always thought that Fareed was naive, but not also dumb.
Hey, you go ahead now with your b.s. "talks" with Iran, and you obviously can't see past that it is all really part of the master plan of deception and stall, just EXACTLY as North Korea's play to successfully obtain Nukes.
You fool. You are not a good journalist, you are actually a danger to society.
CNN, please give this guy the hook.
Farid buddy, you are so way offffff it is pathetic. Ayatolah's regime is inherently in war with the Western civilization. So giving them a deal here giving them a deal there is just stupid prolonging the agony of dealing with the real problem which is the ayatola's regime itself. For 33 years the Europeans mercantilism and well meaning but naive U.S. presidents have been looking for that light at the end of the tunnel which always has been a train coming at them. Instead of wasting more time having silly talks with a bunch of murderers and thieves a better policy would be 100% support of the opposition (except MKO) to get rid of the regime. Get smart and don't let likes of Mr. Trita Parsi in the U.S.and Mr. Marandi in Iran make a fool of you again.
Eliminate the ayatollah and eventually the rest of Islamic clerics in order to seek peace, justice, equality and avoid terrorism, hatred, vengeance and discrimination.
end the Israeli occupation, and you get the same result without war or bloodshed
Well.....for starters....countries that have double crossed and thus hurt American interests in Iran need to be sanctioned so that such thankless nations don't double deal any more. After all the things the American taxpayers and politicians have done for Indians....monetary aid, technological assistance, foreign direct investment etc. and to see the Indians double cross Americans is pathetic. If it wasn't for the Americans, the Chinese and Pakistanis would have chewed the Indians up and spit them out like tobacco.
No need to be angry, it is part of hindu secularism, self centrism, worship not truth but hindu soul, filthy desire,
Iran, Israel and USA should be disarmed. These are very dangerous for world peace.The right of veto at UN is one other big problem for world peace.
World peace to you means a take over by Muslims?
Very true.
Fareed zak very confused it seems,he mentions in one post that Iran has nukes,now he talks about Iran acquiring nukes,he is neither here nor there
"The administration has handled its allies, Russia, China, the United Nations and even Tehran with skill. To succeed, however, it has to tackle its most formidable foe, with whom it has not had much negotiating success so far: Republicans." What a ridiculous idiotic thing for this pencil neck bozo to say. Go back to your 3rd world life and choke on some flies and rice. What an imbecile!
Yet another of our ISLAMIC SUPPORTER ZAKARIA's SUGARCOATING exercise.
Just as he is following the IRANIAN issue closely, CNN's knowledgeable readers are also following MR.ZAKARIA's efforts at HOODWINKING Americans!
He never talks about:
a) STOPPING FORTHWITH enrichment beyond 20%.
b) SURRENDERING stocks of enriched Uranium upto & beyond 20% while keeping some for medical purposes.
c) IMMEDIATE DISMANTLING all underground Nuclear facilities.
d) DECLARING UNEQUIVOCALLY Israel's right to exist.
e) Neither the GOP nor even Israel will oppose lifting of sanctions (NOT merely easing) once all these are VERIFIABLY done.
ANY AMOUNT OF SUGARCOATING by comparing radical Islamist Iran with China or Russia will have any effect on KNOWLEGEABLE Americans, Europeans or anyone.
Mr. ZAKARIA is only exposing himself more as a DIE-HARD ISLAMIC SUPPORTER by doing just that!
I do not see why Iran should recognize the right of israel to exist, if israel does not recognize the Palestinians (a state). most Muslim countries do not recognize israel, even pakistan a robust nuclear power, does not recognize israel. why require iran to dismantle its underground infrastructure is ridiculous. Iranians will never accept it, they learned the lessons of Iraq and Syria.
"As the world watched in wonder, on Thursday, September 9, Norwegian foreign minister Johan Joergan Holst carried a letter from Arafat to Rabin recognizing Israel, renouncing violence, and pledging support for repeal of clauses objectionable to Israel in the PLO charter. Rabin, for his part, signed a letter recognizing the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people and accepting the PLO as a negotiating partner. On Monday, September 13, 1993, in a stunning event on the White House lawn in Washington, the Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government for the Palestinians (henceforth referred to as the Israel - PLO peace accord) was signed by Foreign Minister [Shimon] Peres and PLO representative Mahmoud Abbas, with Warren Christopher and Russian foreign minister Andrei Kosyrev adding their signatures as witnesses, while President Clinton, Arafat, and Rabin looked on."
Ian J. Bickerton & Carla L. Klausner, A Concise History of the Arab-Israeli Conflict p. 263-264, fourth edition, Prentice Hall, 2002
1994
"The Paris Protocol is the framework establishing the interim-period economic relations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. The Protocol was signed in April 1994 and is part of Oslo 1, which was signed a few days later. The model established in the Protocol is known as a 'customs union,' the primary characteristic of which is the absence of economic borders between members of the union. The practical effect of selecting this model was preservation of the economic relations that had existed until then..."
B'Tselem, "The Paris Protocol," accessed on the B'Tselem Website, 7/6/07
"The 'Agreement on the Gaza Strip and the Jericho Area' (usually referred to as 'the Cairo agreement') was finally signed in the Egyptian capital by [Israeli Prime Minister] Rabin and Arafat, with American, Soviet, and Egyptian representatives as witnesses, on May 4, 1994...
The agreement effectively transferred control over the bulk of the Gaza Strip and a sixty-five-square-kilometer area encompassing Jericho and its environs to PA [Palestinian Authority] control, with Israel remaining in control of the borders between these now-autonomous areas and the outside world and of the Jewish settlements in the Strip."
Benny Morris, Righteous Victims, p. 624-625, Vintage Books, 2001
"Signed on October 26, 1994. An international boundary will be delimited within 9 months. Each party will refrain from threats or use of force against the other and from joining alliances hostile to the other and will remove restrictions from normal economic relations and terminate economic boycotts. Problems of displaced persons (from 1967) will be resolved with Egypt and the Palestinians and of refugees (from 1948) in the multilateral framework. Israel respects Jordan’s role in the mosques in Jerusalem and will give it high priority in permanent status negotiations. Annexes called for Jordan to lease one sq. mi. to Israelis for a renewable 25-year period and for Israel to provide Yarmuk River water and desalinized water to Jordan; dams will be built on the Yarmuk and Jordan Rivers to yield more water."
The United States Congressional Research Service (CRS), "The Middle East Peace Talks," Issue Brief for Congress, 9/8/03
"On 28 Sept 1995 the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip was signed in Washington by Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat in the presence of Bill Clinton, Hosni Mubarak, and King Hussein of Jordan. It became known populary as Oslo II...
Under the terms of this agreement, Israel yielded to the Palestinians civilian control over nearly a third of the West Bank. Four percent of the West Bank (including the towns of Jenin, Nablus, Kalkilya, Tulkarem, Ramallah, Bethlehem, and Hebron) was turned over to exclusive Palestinian control and another 25 percent to administrative-civilian control. In the Gaza Strip Israel retained control over 35 percent of the land, containing the Jewish settlements and the roads leading to them, and the rest was turned over to the Palestinian Authority."
Avi Shlaim, The Iron Wall, p. 528, W.W. Norton & Co. 2001
"This agreement, signed on 15 January 1997, divided the city of Hebron into two parts: H1 and H2. Israel retained full security control over the Israeli settlement enclaves in downtown Hebron (H2), over another settlement (Kiryat Arba) just outside the city, and, in order to facilitate movement by the settlers and the IDF, over the surrounding area. The agreement gave the PA security responsibility for the rest of Hebron (H1), although this responsibility remained closely monitored by Israeli authorities."
Geoffrey Aronson, "Recapitulating the Redeployments: The Israel-PLO ‘Interim Agreements’," article posted on the website of the Center for Policy Analysis on Palestine, 4/27/2000
On November 20 [1998], Israel withdrew from two percent of the West Bank included in Area C, which then became part of Area B, while 7.1 percent in Area B now joined Area A. Most of the areas evacuated were around Jenin, in northern Samaria [the northern part of the West Bank]."
Benny Morris, Righteous Victims, p. 648, Vintage Books, 2001
1999
Sharm al-Sheikh "The Sharm al-Sheikh agreement [signed by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian Chairman Yasser Arafat on October 4, 1999] set out a timetable for a permanent peace settlement. A declaration of principles on final status issues was to be reached by February 13, 2000 and a permanent settlement reached by September 13, 2000. Israel accepted the remaining 11 percent redeployment agreed upon at Wye [October 3, 1998], and Arafat compromised by accepting the release of 350 prisoners, rather than the 400 the Palestinians had requested."
Ian J. Bickerton & Carla L. Klausner, A Concise History of the Arab-Israeli Conflict, fourth edition, Prentice Hall, 2002
2000
May "On the night of May 23-24, in a well-orchestrated operation, backed by columns of heavy Merkava tanks and helicopter gunships, the last Israeli troops pulled out [of Lebanon] under sporadic Hizbullah fire."
Benny Morris, Righteous Victims, p. 656, Vintage Books, 2001
Check it out, do some more research and you will find many more attempts at peace from Irael and USA only to have each and every attempt negated by the so-called Palestinians through lies and violence.
What Zakaria is pointing out is a very reasonable dilemma in the US. This is an election year in the US, and every politician wants to outgun its rival when it comes to Iran so as to not seem weak. The latest Iran sanctions under Obama have been very effective in isolating the Iranian economy, thereby devaluing the Iranian currency in half. If the Iranian government compromises on the nuclear issue they want the lifting of the sanctions in return. But lifting of the sanctions requires the approval of the more hawkish Congress which is led by the Republicans and not the President. Now, if you are a Republican politician in the US Congress/Senate and you could vote for a peaceful resolution to the Iranian nuclear issue by gradually lifting sanctions would you want to give that victory to Obama in an election year?
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I find it funny when Israel says that Iran is a threat to world peace. The very Iran which is a signatory of the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and the International Convention for the Annihilation of Weapons of Mass Destruction, the convention effectively prohibits the development, production, acquisition, transfer, retention, stockpiling and use of biological and toxic weapons and is a key element in the international community's efforts to address the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
The tyrant Israeli regime has never allowed nuclear inspectors to access its nuclear sites and till today has refused to join the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT) in spite of being the only country in the Middle East that possesses nuclear weapons.
Despite their own history written with the blood of innocent people all over the world, these so called Super Powers shamelessly point fingers at others. I wish I had a voice loud enough to remind them what Jesus Christ said 2000 years ago, "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
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Too funny - there is only one super power and they belong to NATO last I checked. Most of that Russian and Chinese stuff is junk, haven't you noticed in the recent conflicts - Sorry
Here's the difference between the West along with the Russians and Chinese, and you and your Muslims. We don't want the world to end. You and your Muslims do. Fortunately for you and your Muslims, your world will soon end. We will still have ours though.