Immigration lessons for the U.S. from around the world
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June 10th, 2012
10:41 AM ET

Immigration lessons for the U.S. from around the world

Fareed Zakaria looks at how the immigration systems work – and don't work – in Japan, Europe, Canada and the U.S. in the TV special: "Global Lessons: The GPS Roadmap for Making Immigration Work" which aired on CNN on Sunday, June 10. Watch on CNN International on Saturday, June 16, at 4 a.m. and 9 p.m. ET

Immigrants founded America hundreds of years ago, coming to the promised land in search of freedom and opportunity, in pursuit of the American dream.

Today, many Americans see immigrants as a danger to that dream.

They worry that immigrants are taking their jobs, using government services and changing the country's national identity. The average American believes that 39% of the U.S. population was born abroad. The real figure is 13%, still the highest level since 1920.

Related: How much do you know about U.S. immigration?

Immigration is divisive, a wedge issue in this election year. But most Americans (73%) agree that the government is doing a poor job of managing it.

So, how should the U.S. handle immigration? Does anyone else do it better? What can the U.S. learn from successes – and possible mistakes – from other countries?

Let’s look at three examples: Japan, Europe and Canada.

JAPAN: A CAUTIONARY TALE

Japan has one of the strictest immigration policies in the world and has historically been closed off to outsiders. It has a foreign population of less than 2% - six times smaller than the percentage of the U.S.

But what are the effects of keeping foreigners out?

Japan is facing an alarming labor shortage, says Robert Guest, the business editor of The Economist and author of "Borderless Economics."

Japan’s current population is around a 127 million. It’s on pace to be just 90 million by 2050, a drop-off of almost one-third. The nation is also aging. Almost one in four people are 65 or older – making Japan the oldest country on earth.

Guest says there’s a solution to the labor shortage: open the borders and invite more immigrants.

But that idea has hurdles.

“They don't have the idea that you can become Japanese,” says Guest. “And they don't have the idea that you can solve some of the country's chronic labor problems by importing foreign hands.”

In its health care sector, for example, Japan is estimated to be short almost 900,000 workers 2025. It started to invite foreign nurses, and since 2008 almost 600 have come to Japan.

But only 66 have passed Japan’s notoriously difficult nursing proficiency exam, which requires an expertise in written Japanese.

Japan’s health ministry has made the test easier, adding some English translations, but critics say it’s still unreasonable.

“It should be good enough that they are able to communicate verbally with people and that they are able to read the words they need to know for the tools of their trade,” says Guest. “It worked perfectly well in other countries.”

And it’s not just foreign workers who might run into obstacles. In some cases, it’s immigrants who have been living in Japan for decades.

In 1990, facing a labor shortage, Japan gave ethnic Japanese from South America long-term residence status, filling gaps in its workforce.

Japanese-Brazilians filled manufacturing jobs and became the third largest minority in Japan.

But in 2009, with unemployment running high, Japan actually offered money to them to leave the country – $3,000 for each worker to cover travel expenses.

And the flight was essentially a one-way ticket – anyone who took the offer couldn’t come back to Japan with the residence status they once had.

The government says it was only trying to help unemployed Japanese-Brazilians. They’ve stopped offering the deal and are reconsidering the residence status of those who took the money.

So if Japan won’t let in immigrants, what is it doing about its labor shortage?

It’s encouraging families to have more children, giving them $165 a month for each child. But that hasn’t been enough to inspire a growth spurt.

EUROPEAN UNION: WORK IN PROGRESS

Europe faces a similar demographic crisis as Japan, but it’s trying a more open approach to immigration.

It’s easy to forget that the European Union itself is one of the most ambitious migration experiments in history. Half a billion people are allowed to roam freely within the EU’s borders.

Many predicted that swarms of people from poorer nations like Poland and Romania would move to rich countries like Germany and France. That never happened – only 3% of working-age EU citizens live in a different EU country.

But the EU has not dealt well with immigrants from outside its borders.

There’s been a nasty political backlash – with anti-immigrant parties thriving in Greece, the Netherlands and France.

Rather than rejecting these extremists, Europe’s mainstream politicians have pandered to them. Former French President Nicholas Sarkozy, British Prime Minister David Cameron and Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany have all declared that multiculturalism in their countries is a failure.

“They all agree multiculturalism is dead,” says Chem Ozdemir, born in Germany to Turkish migrant workers. “It's amazing that they agree on that, but they do not agree when it comes to euro and on other issues.”

Ozdemir, now head of Germany’s left-leaning Green Party, became the first ethnic-Turkish member of Parliament at age 28.

Now, he helps his nation to answer a very basic question: What does it mean to be German?

“Can you be a German and have a head scarf at the same time? Can you be a German and practice Islam at the same time?” Ozdemir says.

Jonathan Laurence, author of “The Emancipation of Europe’s Muslims,” is hopeful on Islam’s place in Europe. In a GPS guest post this week, Laurence writes:

The key development is that as the proportion of Muslims of foreign nationality residing in Europe decreases – because the number of native-born Muslims is growing – Europe’s democratic political institutions are increasingly kicking in. For decades, the absence of integration policy allowed foreign governments and transnational movements to capture the religious and political interests of this new minority. This wasn’t multiculturalism so much as indifference.

The series of terrorist attacks against Western capitals from 2001-2005, however, in combination with high unemployment and educational under-performance, ended Europeans’ hands-off approach. After leaving them outside domestic institutions for decades, governments gradually took ownership of their Muslim populations. Authorities began to treat Islam as a domestic religion and encouraged Muslims to embrace national citizenship.

In Germany, for example, the government has met with Muslim leaders at an annual German Islam conference since 2006, in an effort to better integrate Muslims with the rest of the population.

Germany and others are certainly making strides, but throughout Europe, there are still obstacles to immigrants’ inclusion.

So, is there any nation that’s getting immigration right?

CANADA: GETTING IT RIGHT

If Japan’s strict immigration policy serves as a cautionary tale and Europe’s experiment is still a work in progress, then take a look at Canada – a nation with more foreign-born per capita than the United States.

Canada may not have the cache the U.S. does – but it holds great appeal for would-be immigrants, says The Economist’s Guest.

“Canada offers many of the same things that America does – a very high standard of living, the rule of law, peace, safety,” he says.

To determine whom it should let in to live and work, Canada uses a point system. You don't even need a job or employer, just skills. Applicants are awarded points for proficiency in education, languages and job experience.

Just why is Canada so ready to accept immigrants with open arms?

Because it has to be.

The nation is sparsely populated, has a low birth rate, and needs immigrants for population growth – and economic growth.

In Canada, almost two-thirds of permanent visas last year were given for economic needs – Canada's economic needs, that is.

The country brings in the majority of foreigners to fill labor holes.

Only 22% of its immigration was for family reasons: reuniting mothers with children, brothers with sisters, grandparents with grandchildren.

In the U.S., the opposite is true. Only 13% of green cards last year were doled out for economic reasons, while two-thirds were for family reunions.

When Nahed Nenshi became the first Muslim mayor of a major Canadian city in 2010, he shattered Calgary's "redneck" stereotype.

“When I was running for office, it was only people who were not from here who said ‘Whoa, is Calgary ready for a mayor like that?’” he says. “The people in Calgary just said, ‘Ah, it's a kid from the East End. We know him.’"

Canada’s real challenge, says Nenshi, is ensuring the economic and social integration of immigrants once they are living in the country.

“It's not about burkas and kirpans. It's about saying to an engineer who was trained in Iran or China, how can we get you working as an engineer instead of a janitor as quickly as possible?” he says. “These are very serious challenges. And we haven't got it right. But I would much prefer we focus our energies there rather than on these meaningless culture war discussions that occasionally crop up ... because those don't make a difference in people's lives.”

The public and Parliament in Canada generally support continued immigration. “Immigration is unambiguously good for the economy. We know that those folks come, they invest here, they create jobs, they work here,” says Nenshi. “There's not much of a policy debate on that in Canada."

While the prime minister of Great Britain, the former president of France and the chancellor of Germany have all declared that in their context multiculturalism has failed, that's not so in Canada, says Nenshi.

“I'm not here to question their reality. It's their reality,” he says. “But I think it's important for us Canadians, and particularly for Calgarians, to really tell a story loudly and proudly about a place where it works, where diversity works, where multiculturalism works, where pluralism works. It ain’t rocket science.”

FUTURE IN THE U.S.

Canada and also Australia now have smart immigration policies that take in talented foreigners who have skills the country needs and determination and drive to succeed.

As a result, they have transformed themselves into immigrant countries, with a foreign-born population that is higher than the United States.

Australia, which only 15 years ago had strong strains of nativism and xenophobia dominating its political culture, now has more than a quarter of its population as foreign born – double America’s share – and is thriving because of the economic growth and cultural diversity.

Canada's foreign-born population is almost 20%; the U.S. is 13%, just a little higher than Great Britain's.

Related: Why American needs immigration

The United States is not the world's only – nor the largest – immigrant society anymore.

And that will have consequences economically, culturally and in other ways, says Fareed Zakaria:

It's a sad state, because the U.S. remains a model for the world. It is the global melting pot, the place where a universal nation is being created. We may not do immigration better than everyone else anymore, but we do assimilation better than anyone else. People from all over the world come to this country and, almost magically, become Americans.

They - I should say we - come to the country with drive and dedication and over time develop a fierce love for America. This infusion of talent, hard work and patriotism has kept the country vital for the past two centuries. And if we can renew it, it will keep America vital in the 21st century as well.

What do you think? What can the U.S. learn from other countries' immigration policies? Share your comments below and check out some past responses.

Or see what Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach has to say, from this excerpt from "Global Lessons: The GPS Roadmap for Making Immigration Work"

and also New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg

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  1. Matt

    Why would the U.S. look for Europe for answers. They have mosques popping up all over the place and now have to deal with Sharia Law.

    June 10, 2012 at 11:24 pm | Reply
  2. Paul

    The immigration problems are as much a fear vs. popular contest in all of these countries. For multicultureisms to be reject by the prime ministers shows they are pandering to the fearful. Also those prime ministrers have had to deal with major civil unrest. The riots of Paris and London are the remnants of prior immigration policy that failed to allow the childern of residents to become citzens of the country where they were born and assimilated the culture.
    The USA has a popularity contest at each election. Sometimes it is valid and other times not. Look to the small shop and business owners who themselves are legal but, they employ illegals for their competive edge. Some of them are immigrants themselves. They understand the street value of supply and demand in the dialy cash labor market. That is also what some of the other counties have realized and applied as smarter policy; rather than fear.

    June 10, 2012 at 11:27 pm | Reply
  3. Simon Abela

    I think some people are plain stupid here. How many poeple want to emigrate to China or Russia? In te last 50 years American went to war to protect the Minroirties mostly Muslims, and what we get nothing, the left Media such as CBS and other just loves to Slam us, not to mention some members of congress should be tried for Treason.
    Again, I dont have CNN as a TV station as i find it bias, and by the way Canadians do benefit form our research programs, but now that American is borke no Country want to deal with us.
    Just pray to GOD that we oversome this tornado and move ahead in November, as once we get rid of OBAMACARE the country will start creating jobs and pay our debt.

    June 10, 2012 at 11:27 pm | Reply
    • Fearless Freep

      Simon Idiot.

      Romneycare is good for Massachussetts,
      but Obamacare is bad for the nation.
      They are the same thing.
      You think as soon as "Republicans" get rid of Obamacare,
      suddenly millions of jobs will just "pop" up ?

      I D I O T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      June 11, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Reply
  4. BlackHeywood

    There is a huge difference between Legal immigration and illegal aliens.The difference America and Americans have always welcomed immigrants with opened arms. What we don't welcome, respect or accept are those who enter America illegally and unlawfully. It insulting to compare legal immigrants who are good for our country with illegal aliens who only have their own best interest. Most illegal aliens send their money back to their country of origin and use services not intended for them. There is no need for illegals if we invested into our citizens and paid them livable wages.

    June 10, 2012 at 11:28 pm | Reply
  5. Ankit

    Immigration policy is the easiest to handle, just control it. Declare one national language. No community based schools. In schools you study one culture and one tradiation. Rest all is history for you.
    After all who so ever migrates to other country probably didn't like something in their own country so accept the culture, laws and language of the host country.

    June 10, 2012 at 11:33 pm | Reply
  6. foreigner

    if you would like to migrate to america,don't do it.country is nice,but people are garbage.americans are nazis.every last ignorant peasant will treat you like trash.americans are lazy,ignorant,poorly informed,believe propaganda,expect you to be obedient and consider their birth certificate to be sufficient in their claim for supremacy.in short,americans are cross between aligators,pigs and gestapo.

    June 10, 2012 at 11:42 pm | Reply
  7. Amit-Atlanta-USA

    YET AGAIN..........this article from Mr. Zakaria is all about opening the doors for greater Muslim immigration into the west, and making Islam THE religion of the west.

    Being a true Islamic soldier, Mr. Zakaria ONLY sees everything good about Islamic influence in the west castigating European leaders for calling Multi-cultralism (meaning Muslim integration) a failure, and terming nationalist Europeans who are trying to preserve European values as extremists.

    Contrary to what Mr. Zakaria says Muslim Diaspora in the west are not seen as an asset in most of the west but as a liability given their low level of achievements, their inability to adapt even after generations, and their ever increasing demands at the cost of not only the largely Christian majority but as well as the other non-Muslim minorities.

    June 10, 2012 at 11:45 pm | Reply
    • Amit-Atlanta-USA

      Rest of my comments including references to augment my assertions are being censored!

      June 11, 2012 at 12:04 am | Reply
      • LenaSaz

        Off course it would be, goes to show you if we don't stand up for what we believe, we will no longer be the USA .....

        June 11, 2012 at 12:39 am |
    • Varun

      Much more than Fareed's love for muslims, I can sense a more Hindi hatred towards muslims in your post. Go back to India and work for RSS!

      June 11, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Reply
    • southernwonder

      hi, ms/mr. amit, yours is a great post, and i see it exactly as you do on author's intent. over the years since 9/11 i have learned that no muslim guy ever makes a case for saudi arabia to be liberal with non-muslims like this author wants us to be welcoming to muslims. saudis are the flag bearer of islam, and they don't allow a single church in their contry. it is bothersome that these muslim immigrants must give up their tiresome country and come here and conitnue in the vein neverhteles, and mulitply within like crazy to put our country at risk. no, thank you. canada can open its doors to the crazies if it wants, we better not.

      June 11, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Reply
    • AreYouStupid

      Oh so what have your people done? 250 million + of your people live in filth, and what are their achievements besides eating rats?

      June 13, 2012 at 5:19 am | Reply
  8. Michael

    Fareed, please stop being misleading with statistics, and stop bashing the US like you always do.
    On one hand, both US and Canada are 99% immigrants or descendants of immigrants.
    Canada has a population of 34 million, the US a population of 313 million. So, if the US has foreign born population of 13%, that is 40.7 million people, MORE than the ENTIRE POPULATION of Canada. Canada's 20% foreign born is only 6 million, half the ILLEGAL imigrants currently in the US.
    I argue that only difference in the percentage is due to the sheer size of the population differences. There are diminishing returns in trying to accommodate that many people immigrating.

    June 10, 2012 at 11:46 pm | Reply
    • concerned

      Michael, excellent post.

      June 11, 2012 at 7:05 am | Reply
  9. mymyweforget

    The only real reason that born, not naturalized, American citizen are against mexican immigration is that some of the terrorist of 9-11 were able to use a Mexican to get fake ID's. All actions that leaded upto 9-11 were wrong on all counts. It doesn't matter who they were or where they came from.

    So be mad at Mexican immigration. But also be mad at immigration from Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Lebanon and Egypt. Those are the countries where the hijackers came from.

    June 10, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Reply
    • Fearless Freep

      Nut Case.

      June 11, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Reply
  10. pitung

    we need to follow Singapore's immigration policy that only opens immigration for smart, rich and people who are beneficial for Singapore. America tries to welcome everybody which is not possible anymore and we base also the humanity factor in our immigration policy. Since many immigrants in America are coming from poor countries, they are not paying taxes due to their very low income, but they need still health care, education and welfare. We cannot continue to become Santa Claus of the world, and the current immigration system it is not fair for the American people. About learning the Spanish language – I agree – since in future – the most important languages are only 3: English, Chinese and Spanish. Other languages become obsolete!

    June 11, 2012 at 12:11 am | Reply
  11. Simon Abela

    Some of the comments are being censored so I am hitting the Sack, If CNN wants to be a new leader which i doubt it is anymore please stop being bias and do your findings before you post some Stupid show like this.
    We have enough problems, Illegal immigration of some floks came 20 years ago is still ILLEGAL no matter how one sees it.

    June 11, 2012 at 12:12 am | Reply
  12. WachetAuf

    Fear is the predominant moving force in this discussion and is the predominant driving force of the herding instinct. The closer you can manuever yourself toward the center of the herd, the better protection you have from being picked off and eaten by those you fear than when you are at the outer edges of the herd. You communicate your fear to others as a means of calculating how close you are to the center of the herd. You also do it to recruit as many people as you can to surround you from the risks of finding yourself at the outer edges of the herd where you will be eaten.

    Tribalism is the end result of your fear mongering. Tribes are dependent upon thugs who promise you the security which you demand. Reason plays no role. Fear predominates. Tribalism is contrary to the founding principles of this country. It is contrary to the message of our most scacred moral and ethical text, the Bible, Jesus' teaching. The United States of America is continuing to evolve toward more justice for all.

    My grandparents came to this country to escape the tribalism which resulted in pograms and genocide in Europe. You who preach fear, you have many options. Many countries with philophosies similar to yours are competing for your support, North Korea, China, Syria, and many third world countries too numerous to list. You can move to the center of those herds and there find protection from being eaten by the United States Marine Corps when the fear you preach culminates in the inevitable insanity which is the end result of your fear. The Marines wil not be there to repress anyone. They will be there to remove the fear and free the minds and bodies of men longing to be free.

    June 11, 2012 at 12:14 am | Reply
  13. Simon Abela

    There are two of us that shows that our comments are being censored.
    Good night everyone!!

    June 11, 2012 at 12:15 am | Reply
  14. al b

    we have lots of immigration in canada i see them everywhere working in coffee shops,fast food rest,meatpacking industry,grocery stores at the ,gas bars those all seem like highly educated jobs or maybe its just the tax breaks business that makes it appealing

    June 11, 2012 at 12:18 am | Reply
  15. disgustedvet

    Most Americans are descendents of immigrants. Immigrants who came here to better themselves AND become Americans. Today it seems they want to be Foreigners living in America instead . That is why we distrust them,they do not want to be like us,and would have us change to accommodate them.

    June 11, 2012 at 12:38 am | Reply
  16. Chuck

    I watched this program today, what a load of junk

    June 11, 2012 at 1:07 am | Reply
  17. spartanmk1

    Wait, I thought the major issue was with Illegal immigration not legal immigration.

    I have a problem with people not taking the proper steps to becoming a citizen, yet reaping the benefits of citizenship minus the burdens.

    You want to live here, that's great, but do it the right way. That's how my grandparents came to America. They came over on a boat from Germany. They had to learn English, have a sponsor, and have jobs. They were really successful for them selves and I owe a lot of my current ease of life to them.

    Do I think that our Immigration could use some reform? Sure, we can ease things a bit but still make achieving citizenship a hard to reach goal.

    Why? Well because it will separate those who really want to be Americans from those who really don't. It should be an accomplishment to achieve citizenship. It should not be given out on a silver platter to who ever comes knocking.

    June 11, 2012 at 1:18 am | Reply
  18. Moshe

    What this article fails to mention is the fact that foreign born does not include all the anchor babies born every year in America, so immigration statistics should be higher. Another problem this article fails to mention is the extreme problems the UK, Netherlands, and France are having with integrating emigrants. As far as I am concerned we need to take care of our population first before we let anyone else into American society.

    June 11, 2012 at 1:44 am | Reply
    • concerned

      yes, yes, absolutely. We have plenty of educated, healthy, older Americans (45+) who would just love these jobs that CNN says Americans can't do (lack skills) or won't do. All the government needs to do is further educate/train people in whatever good paying jobs are in demand and raise wages in lower skilled jobs. Problem solved.

      June 11, 2012 at 7:19 am | Reply
  19. clemkadiddle

    wrong zakaria, When Canada and Austrailias populations become as large as the United States and some European countrys such as France, they too will experience the economical and social drawbacks of too much diversity, especially when it starts costing them. Come on Fareed, at least be honest. You are as bad as the hispanics that use every angle and excuse for unchecked, unfettered, unbridled, illegal immigration.

    June 11, 2012 at 2:09 am | Reply
  20. Rick

    ILLEGALS ARE THE PROBLEM.....If your legal Americans are ok with it.

    June 11, 2012 at 2:31 am | Reply
    • oodoodanoo

      Look up "H1-B" in this comments section, and you'll find that's not true. People don't want the legal immigrants, either. That's because they think they're taking "their" jobs, which is laughable.

      These jobs do not belong to anyone except the employer. Just because you were born here does not give you a birthright to study whatever you want (or not study), then demand a high-paying job wherever you want to live for the rest of your life.

      If the ones with the jobs (Microsoft, Google, etc.) want to hire LEGAL foreigners, then it is exactly socialism to tell them that they can't. It is exactly mob rule via the democratic process to interfere with a business's operation. If that's what you want, then fine. But be honest - you want the government to give you something.

      Meanwhile, these legal immigrants leave their families behind and come with a smile on their faces to work for crap wages and the fading promise of a green card among a population that hates them. If you were born here and you don't have a job, stop grumbling about having to compete and do like they do. Study what they study. Take a pay cut. Or, move your family to China or India. If you're American-educated, your skills should be in hot demand over there. I've seen Americans living in India working for IBM and Cisco. It has been done. It is possible.

      If you get what you want - more government intervention, then employers will simply move operations overseas. It won't be that hard. They already have one foot over there. The end result of asking the government for jobs is that we'll have nothing but government jobs. It'll be like living in the DMV. Or Greece.

      June 11, 2012 at 6:13 am | Reply
      • concerned

        Sorry oodoodanoo… your post does not make too much sense.

        “These jobs do not belong to anyone except the employer”. The employer has the jobs to offer to applicants applying for the position – which would therefore make it that person’s job once obtained.

        June 11, 2012 at 8:55 am |
      • concerned

        “Just because you were born here does not give you a birthright to study whatever you want (or not study), then demand a high-paying job wherever you want to live for the rest of your life”

        We do have the freedom to study whatever we want as a profession (once we decide on a major). One can choose not to go onto college as well – & just work in a dept store or a restaurant if they wish too. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Not all of us can get a high-paying job or choose where (what city) to live. But I guess if someone graduates from Harvard, Stanford, or other Ivy league school, it may make life a little easier as to working where one wants & getting higher pay.

        June 11, 2012 at 8:56 am |
      • concerned

        “If … (Microsoft, Google, etc.) want to hire LEGAL foreigners, then it is exactly socialism to tell them that they can't”

        Come on oodoodanoo… be real. Just because an American wants to work for Microsoft or Google and a legal foreigner is being considered – does not make it socialism. Sure we can not tell an employer who to hire – whether it’s at Google or at McDonalds. But you have to understand that we as Americans have spent our entire lives here, with parents (& perhaps grandparents) that have paid taxes. These taxes have been used to educate us at public schools, colleges, universities. We feel we can do the job as well as a legal foreign worker. Our only concern is if the employer is perhaps choosing the foreign worker (rather than an American worker) to make a profit & thus pay less in salary. You know that hurts the foreign worker as well – because you/he would be paid more if there wasn’t so many people completing for that one job.

        June 11, 2012 at 8:57 am |
      • concerned

        “you want the government to give you something”

        We want the government to give us what? You’re talking nonsense. In fact, IF us Americans have good paying jobs – we don’t have to depend on the government to give us unemployment benefits, food stamps, welfare checks – nothing.

        June 11, 2012 at 8:59 am |
      • concerned

        “Meanwhile, these legal immigrants leave their families behind… come with a smile… to work for crap wages & fading promise of a green card among a population that hates them”

        Well oodoodanoo… sorry about the fading promise of a green card. Americans too have had it rough with the fading promise of the American dream (buying a home, having a newer car, being able to afford a nice vacation, & so on). That is the way things are when there are too many people and not enough jobs. Wages go down! People are valued less in the workplace. Well, all I can say is you try, you come, & it does not always work out the way you want it

        June 11, 2012 at 9:09 am |
      • concerned

        “If you were born here and you don't have a job, stop grumbling about having to compete and do like they do. Study what they study. Take a pay cut.”

        FYI: A lot of Americans (over age 40) who have been laid off or wanted to change careers have gone back to school. I can name several people I know. There’s usually no choice but to take a pay cut if one wants to work again. Volunteer work is also an option (zero pay) to gain skill. I think you have a misconception about us Americans.

        June 11, 2012 at 9:15 am |
      • concerned

        “If you get what you want – more government intervention, then employers will simply move operations overseas… The end result… we'll have nothing but government jobs”

        There you go again. I don’t know what you’re talking about (?). The government can give incentives to the companies to keep the jobs here & hire American workers. But it sounds to me that you want companies (employers) to hire H-1B visa workers & later give them green cards. Well, I’d see the benefit in that to the worker and the company – for you’d make the crappy wages & the company would make the bigger profit. Then when you finally get your green card, any future job – you’d be competing with us citizens & the H-1B visa holders. And guess who’d get the job? The cheaper worker of course. I suggest you really think things out next time before posting.

        June 11, 2012 at 9:16 am |
      • Fearless Freep

        There are different forms of socialism.
        The kind practiced here in America (along with Capitalism)
        works like this.

        You pay taxes, they are collected and used to build schools, fire house, police dept,
        roads ect.
        It works for the "collective" good.
        So many people dont seem to understand this.
        I have seen President Obama being called a socialist, over and over,
        and yet, he has done nothing different than Bush.
        Nobody called Bush a socialist.
        Most of the name calling comes from weak minded Republican supporters
        who believe everything they are told.
        Now these uneducated morons are yelping thier garbage on CNN,
        because Fox has shut down the comments.
        CNN should change its policy, you should have to logon with your own name
        so people are held accountable for what they post.

        The "drive by shootings" as i call them
        are just trolls and turds. The dont want discussion, they get a kick out of
        attacking and name calling, and keep changing thier names.
        Too bad the "report abuse" button is missing.

        June 11, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
      • oodoodanoo

        test

        June 11, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
      • oodoodanoo

        @concerned

        I would have responded to you earlier, but I just got back from my job 🙂

        The employer absolutely owns the job. Try goofing off at work, and when your boss comes to fire you, tell him, "Sorry, I own this job. Better luck next time." See how well that goes over with him or the cops. You don't own the job. You earn each paycheck. That money's yours. That's it.

        The idea that a worker "owns" his job or even has a "right" to a job is an idea that failed in the 20th century. If American voters try to shove that idea down companies' throats, they'll never hire anyone for fear that they can't fire them. Think that's hyperbole? Try the socialist economies in Europe or India.

        June 11, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
  21. Tj

    Immigrants, you mean folks like my great grandparents who applied for immigration visas, got them, and came to the U.S., got jobs (skilled stonemasons / farmers), paid taxes, and took citizenship classes before becoming US citizens? Those immigrants?

    The one's that wore the American uniform in the last 5 wars we've been in, sacrificed more than a couple of lives in those wars, and proudly fly the American flag every chance they get?

    I'm just making sure some folks are on the right page as to what an "immigrant" is; someone who gives their undying allegiance to the country that welcomes them, and works hard to repay that welcome and integrate into their new-found society.

    Or are we talking folks that just wander in uninvited, take jobs from folks who DO want them, not paying taxes on those wages, and oh yeah, sucking the life out of our medical and social welfare programs, then have the gall to waive the Mexican flag on our streets. Those would be called "illegal aliens", no matter how often CNN bleats otherwise.

    Go home, apply to become a US citizen just like all the folks that have to come by plane or boat to get here do. Take your guns, your drugs, and your pseudo-Mexican national pride (it isn't real pride, otherwise you wouldn't be here) with you, we don't need your help making a mess of things here, we can do just fine by ourselves.

    Sincerely,
    An AMERICAN

    June 11, 2012 at 2:32 am | Reply
    • Coop

      Yes !

      June 11, 2012 at 9:23 am | Reply
    • me

      VERY well said! Most of us have come from immigrants, and they all did the right thing. A friend told me about working at a factory and was told by an Asian that his 7 years were up and would have to start to pay taxes from his pay check so he quit his job. Yup, good times! NONE of our politicians will ever do a dam thing about immigration, it's too important of a hot button to get votes. And that's it!

      June 11, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Reply
    • chicago7

      My sentiments exactly. Very well said.

      June 11, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Reply
  22. clemkadiddle

    Oh Yeah Fareed Zacharia you FN muslim, stick your lessons up your AZZ

    June 11, 2012 at 2:36 am | Reply
    • Fearless Freep

      Another six year old fox lover, without a home.

      June 11, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Reply
  23. www.chimpout.com

    http://www.chimpout.com

    June 11, 2012 at 4:28 am | Reply
  24. Ron

    What an unbelievable pile of crap! Canada has roaming Chinese and South Asian gangs in every big city, with many of them making it very clear to Canada that their loyalties lie elsewhere. Balkanization is worse in Canada than in the U.S. Crime in cities like Vancouver, Montreal, and Toronto are almost all minority-caused. Canada's immigration policy has been a lot like the U.S.' but they haven't had to take in millions of south of the borders. A failure.

    June 11, 2012 at 5:34 am | Reply
  25. Conductorwoman

    I am a teacher within a year or two of retirement. I have a master's degree + 107 credits. I am certified in several major areas and Advance Placement trained in English Language and Composition (Rhetoric). How do I emmigrate to Canada?

    June 11, 2012 at 8:33 am | Reply
  26. Coop

    We have a process for immigration that has worked
    exceptionally well for a long long time.

    It has nothing to do with
    "Making Illegal immigration work".

    June 11, 2012 at 9:19 am | Reply
  27. JusticeForAll

    You cannot compare minorities to how majority acts. In their 56 Islamic majority countries Muslims have wipped out 90% of minorities over the past century. Why would I bring to this countyry a group that teaches Islam and openly wants to eliminate everything else? The answer is I would not unless I am ignorant and naive.

    June 11, 2012 at 9:31 am | Reply
  28. Phil

    Instead of relying on immigrants to fill engineering, science, math and other professions we need why not give grants or interest free loans to American students.in these fields. Why give the same student grant/loan to any student regardless of the degree???

    June 11, 2012 at 10:31 am | Reply
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