By Anna Borshchevskaya, Special to CNN
Anna Borshchevskaya is the assistant director of the Dinu Patriciu Eurasia Center at the Atlantic Council. The views expressed are solely those of the author.
As Syrian atrocities have escalated, so too has U.S. frustration with Russian intransigence. On July 19, after Russia and China vetoed sanctions against the al-Assad regime, the White House called their decision “deplorable and regrettable.”
There are many reasons for Russian intransigence. With the Mediterranean port of Tartus, Syria hosts Russia’s only military base outside the confines of the former Soviet Union. Russian President Vladimir Putin is a realist – he clearly believes that Russia gains more by sticking with Bashar al-Assad than gambling on the regime that will follow.
Yet while Putin is no democrat, he isn’t completely detached from public opinion either. The problem is that he will face little criticism at home for a simple reason: while the Russian public is aware of the violence in Syria, it remains largely ignorant of the al-Assad regime’s brutality.
When the Russian press reports the latest Syria news, it by and large lacks any real detail and analysis, instead parroting the official Kremlin line that the Syrians oppose outside intervention. The Western press, in contrast, teems not only with first-hand reports, but also interviews that offer a broad range of perspectives, discussion and debate.
For a start, the Western media has been reporting about interviews with survivors and activists, covering the debate about which specific groups Assad’s army targeted in these massacres, and publishing a myriad of opinions.
Take, for example, the alleged July 12 massacre in the village of Tremseh. “People had their throats slit,” one resident told Agence France Presse, which also reported graffitied slogans such as “Bashar is president or we will burn down the country!” London’s Guardian quoted an opposition activist, who explained: “it appears that Alawite militiamen from surrounding villages descended on Tremseh after its rebel defenders pulled out and started killing the people...Every family in the town seems to have members killed.” The Telegraph added important context that most recent massacres have all involved Sunni villages dominated by the Alawite minority. The violence, it seems, isn’t simply indiscriminate, but rather appears to be more like ethnic cleansing.
Compare this to Russian reports. Most say responsibility is unclear. Russian agencies shouldn’t lack sources – Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov asserts that Syria hosts as many as 100,000 Russian citizens. But Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the Kremlin’s newspaper of record, reported as fact Lavrov’s conviction that the “lion’s share” of the Syrian public supported al-Assad, and accused the State Department of lacking precision.
Meanwhile, even as the Western press has reported extensively on the shabiha (“Ghosts”), a pro-al-Assad vigilante group complicit in the worst abuses, Russia’s Vesti.ru, website of a popular television station, infused its July 15 reporting on the shabiha with moral equivalency, suggesting that those slain by the group were armed insurgents.
Press freedom seems important here. Reporters Without Borders ranks Russia as 142 out of 179 countries in terms of press freedom in its latest global rankings. Because some independent news permeates Russia online, the Kremlin is moving toward a China-style “internet wall.” Earlier this month, for example, the Russian parliament passed a bill allowing broad internet censorship. Putin is further limiting press freedom with a new law to require non-governmental organizations who receive funding from non-Russian sources to register as “foreign agents,” raising the specter of independent journalists being branded as foreign spies.
The Obama administration has made a “reset” of U.S.-Russian relations a cornerstone of their foreign policy, but the Russians haven’t played along. Alas, so long as Putin faces no domestic pressure, he has no incentive to be on the correct side of history in Syria. If the Russian people – and Russian investors – understood the true nature of Assad, they might be less willing to play along. Media freedom reverberates, and whether on Syria, Georgia, or Iran, sometimes it becomes a pre-requisite for winning true cooperation.
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"If the Russian people – and Russian investors – understood the true nature of Assad, they might be less willing to play along." – I wish author could elaborate on that, looks like he knows a little more than an average person...
Actually the author doesn't seem to know much of anything regarding Russia. This is a very one sided and biased article. Russia journalists are some of the few journalists allowed inside Syria, and we have extensive coverage from all sides of the conflict. Unlike western media, which gets it's 'journalism' from social media.
Are you then saying that because Russia's journalists are there, they can provide the true story?
vs. the lies coming out through Social Media?
I was born in Russia. I know.
Putin is an ex- KGB. He knows what Assad is all about and he can relate.
Wake up
AfisFis
"Actually the author doesn't seem to know much of anything regarding Russia. This is a very one sided and biased article. Russia journalists are some of the few journalists allowed inside Syria, and we have extensive coverage from all sides of the conflict. Unlike western media, which gets it's 'journalism' from social media."
Please explain then why the Russian journalists wrote an article on the Russian T*mes yesterday that said they couldn't verify whether helicopters were attacking Damascus? LOL
You have to understand that there is a plan by outside forces to interfere in the internal affairs of Syria by instigating unrest, terrorist acts and civil war. Unfortunately the US is again enmeshed in this web of intrigues when we should be taking care of business here at home.
We are being dragged into these destructive foreign policies and wars by forces having their own agendas and vendettas in the region.
*** Russia journalists are some of the few journalists allowed inside Syria...
So they act as Al Assads mouth piece.
According to Onion news, the author,Fareed Zakaria, is a terrorist disguised as a reporter in the United states. You don't want information coming out of him
I only hope that the Russians do not give in to the West. The U.S., Great Britain and France want to once again install another one of their stooges in Syria in order to take over that country! This has already been done to Libya and Iraq and even today there has been a bloody attack in the northern part of that country as well as the city of Bagdad!
In a New York Times article about the Russian community in Syria, an outsider has a good insight into the lives of many, many Russian women, married to senior Syrian officials, who went to the former Soviet Union decades ago to get an education. These men seem to be great Russophiles and that has impressed Russia. So apart from the Russian base inTartus on the Syrian coast and perhaps arms deals, it's emotion that compels the Kremlin to stand by Assad. Besides Moscow fears chaos and the emergence of Islamist in the new Syria, which would spread to its Southern border in North Caucasus.
Good point, in this day and age however, I think the will of the people will overthrow colonial powers.
Indeed, Russia should know whether their desire to keep the diaspora and the base in the port of Tartus is worth the bashing of the international community. Myopia and emotion don't provide for good policy making.
j. von hettlingen
So what was it myiopia or emotion that led you to state that the murderers in Gaza would become docile sheep if they were allowed to have business enterprises with the bedouins of Sinai?
Moscow wanted to play a game of improving Iran's position in the region to the point where the U.S. would have no choice to but to intervene. They (and China as well) are concerned with our disengagement from the Middle East, and fear from past lessons that U.S. policy towards them will be one of bolstering their regional rivals with a goal of containment.
The Alawite regime in Syria is friendly to Iran, and with Iraq under Iran's political thumb, an Iranian sphere of influence was in the work stretching to Lebanon and the Mediterranean.
If a Sunni government is to take shape in Syria, they could fall more into the Sphere of Turkey than Iran, creating a better natural regional balance. Even factonal breakoff in Syria is better from a U.S. perspective, as the same elements that want to end Alawite rule in Syria, would be opposed to the Shiite Iraqi government – and I think we're all aware of how these conflicts and militant groups tend to spill over into neighboring countries.
Has it dawn to you that the powers to be; who orchestrated the overthrowing of Saddam by Bush and his neo-cons did not foresee the outcome we have right now in Iraq?
Are we that stupid or cunning for not being able to see the instability that we have created and are creating in this region?
We are in the forefront of the group of nations instigating instability in Syria, and can you imagine that we are allies in this with Al Qaeda and Saudi Arabia in Syria. What is our national interest in all of this involvement? Do we really care as a nation (USA) about who is ruling any country in the Middle East?
'The problem is that he will face little criticism at home for a simple reason: while the Russian public is aware of the violence in Syria, it remains largely ignorant of the al-Assad regime’s brutality."
Or maybe were not ignorant to brutality of the rebels against our native Orthodox Christians brothers. We seen videos of them burning church's beheading priests and women. Syria remains one last stimuli-religious nation in Middle east and if they fall the Christians will be genocides. This article is ignorant and very poorly researched. You know nothing of our support for Syria. Just look at Egypt and Iraq to see why we support the present Syrian government. One million Christians dead or force to leave in Iraq after U.S invasion and Saddam death.
Twenty years of Russia's brutality in its own provinces of the Caucasus reflect Yeltsin and Putinist Russian regimes willingness to violently suppress separatist uprisings by mass-killing of innocents in order to kill terrorists. Saddam Hussain's Iraq killed so many hundreds of thousands of Iraqis during its existence – but all we hear about now is the far-less US killings. Russia worried about Iran, and Iran supports Assad in Syria, so Russia will also support Assad because Putin doesn't want any Iranian influence in its Caucasus.
The problem with handling Syria is the past experiences in handling Iraq and Libya.The Iraq experience has resulted in loss of moral ground for US to intervene elsewhere. The Libyan NATO intervention has proved beyond doubt that even if you put end to a regime, it would not gurantee upholding of human rights and stop of blood shed. And this also is working against buiding of public opinion in Russia and China against the regime.
Nothing can compare with CNN level of unprofessionalism in reporting of Syria events.
It is pure, unhided, blatant propaganda where lie can be found at almost any sentence!
Remember that Damascus reporter ...than damascus girl.....than Russian ship from sebastopol with Helicopters?
Anyone with brains can see that. Moreover, it is not only CNN. Hillary Clinton lied many times either.
But Anna Borshchevskaya thinks it is good idea to speak about bias in Russian mass media at CNN.
Honest, balanced view at honest, unquestionable mass media source – from honest, never lying country which always do what it promised, especially when it s promises are to UN SC?
PATHETIC.
Pathetic.
So was your post.
Even if we forget everything about morals and Human Rigths, its still a very stupid decision to stick with Assad at this point. Anyone with the samllest sense of logic can now figure Assad is going down, its just a matter of when. The only other option would be the widespread use of the recently called in WMD or direct military help from russians themselves. Both options would be catastrophic and could lead to WWIII.
So I hope every single commenter who feels sorry for Assad to hope he comes down real soon. Or you will have to feel sorry for yourselves when the whole world is at war.
I love how this article tells us "the western press" is getting the real deal, the propaganda is so obvious it's pathetic.
What is pathetic is your pathetic attempt at sowing dissent by questioning and bashing anything from the West.
Thank you, Bribarian. You nailed it good! It now appears that the Western media is trying to tells us what and how to think!
You would rather choose to hate anyone better than you and your cult?
Never mind the facts, never mind the analysis, never mind the logic. You just want to hate. Allah is giving you the evil eye because you are not believable.
Syrians attacked on the street and they have cellphones and cameras.
Russian journalists in the country with Al Assads approval.
I know who i would trust.
I agree, this 'we are better than them' has always been western media way of responding to other balanced media sources
I didn't even think my post was bad, and CNN directs to the Blog "terms of service" it's the old "say what you want as long as it's what we think" way to go CNN.
Typical CNN post.
Why aren't you discussing China in detail? They always support rogue regimes and terrorists. eg: Syria, Pakistan. Also, they manipulate all data on how bad the economy is and manipulate their currency every day. They claim false growth in GDP and cheat the US of its trade balance. Yet, we as AMericans seems to be ok with it?
The worst report ever. How come violence by the rebels aren't reported? "The western media" is right and everyone else is wrong? A pathetic joke!!
I dont think the America's real intention is to democralise the middle east... rather they are looking at how best their interest can be met... Can anybody tell me why Qatar and Saudi Arabia who have authoritarian regimes and are supporters of terror are among the best friends of the US... Why does America not promote democracy in these countries? What are they afraid of? America was supporting authoritarian regimes in Egypt.... Tunisia... Yemen.... Saudi Arabia... Barhain... Qatar and the list is endless... so if Russian does support an authoritarian regime so What? Why does CNN not report about any protests that take place in Barhain or Saudi Arabia.... And I guess the reporting that done by western media promotes their governments agenda..... Who is a terrorist in according to western media? terrorists are recognised as freedom fighters in western media.... ? In Russia press they would cover a story like this "Senior syrian officials slain by rebels" while the western media would report the story like this "Freedom fighters delivers a knocking blow to the syrian authoritarian regime"....
Very True.
It is not ASSAD Russia "sticked by", it is US aggressive foreign policy !
Assad or no Assad, base or not base, Syria or not Syria – it is not main issue.
Main issue is 4th war in a row USA, country which spent on military industrial complex more than WORLD COMBINED starts – taking in account previous 3 wars it started was total FAILURE.
I agree that there have been way too many wars.
If you look at things truthfully, you will find that all the problems come from the muslim world.
Just because the civilized world will not allow for a caliphate does not make us the bad guys.
Seems to me that 'Religion" is the root cause to all this. Which "God" is it today? Are ther "Virgins" involved?
Are you "Getting the Evil Eye"? Give me a break, what ever happend to "Enjoying Life"???
You're obviously not very informed.
Wello Jack, go ahead and inform.
Make sure you include only facts because I will research anything you say.
But why is al Assad ordering his troops to kill innocent peopl?
Social Media tells us that the bad guys are hiding behind their friends and family members.
Muslims have and continue to make lots of martyrs for the cause.
Martyrs tend to make muslims into Cause Celebre.
Well, not directly ordering them, but it his regime's army spraying their guns at 360 degrees.
the elephants kick, the grass is crushed.
The reason why Putin sticks by Assad has nothing to do with Russian arms sales or maintaining its naval base. If these were the issues, Putin could easily join the bandwagon calling for Assad's ouster and negotiate with whatever successor regime emerges to maintain Russia's commercial military relationships in Syria.
The real reason is that Putin fears a Syria scenario in Russia, with Putin himself in the role of Assad.
Unfortunately, due to our limited knowledge of the true interests Russia is protecting we cannot come to a serious conclusions. On the other side it has been brought up that the US vetoes at the UN for Israel almost always. That too is confusing considering Israel's limited resources. But, you must look at the big picutre... large countries of the world... US & Russia, and also including China at the moment are the chess players and a lot of the countries in the Middle East are there chess pieces. At the end of the day human nature is selfish (crude oil perhaps?) and therefore each will act upon their presumed best interest. I feel sorry for the world as it stands today and I hope we the people finally put an end to a corrupt political system.
US should focus on their own domestic problems and stop being an Empire. As we know from history every Empire falls... i think there is not much time left for US. The world is clearly becoming multi-polar with Russia playing an important role again. Another story is that large oil and gas corporations and the BANKS are being comletely unfair to people both in US and in Russia. So i think all we people should unite against our corupt governemnts.
Oh please spare me of this crap!
That is simply pathetic! Anna Borshchevskaya is a prize dura who has lost a touch with reality and simply does not understand where the current situation with Syria fits! We do not really need some "assistant director of the Dinu Patriciu Eurasia Center at the Atlantic Council" to re-tell us all the propaganda CNN delivers here day in and day out! And beside this there is nothing to this article: total waste of Internet traffic!
I am so pleased that Russia is standing up and doing the right thing. As an American, I am ashamed and appalled at the the ridiculous and dangerous cries for "intervention" in Syria. Look at how good interventions have worked around the world. Iraq is a slaughter house still and Libya is in anarchy. Lets not forget the Christians, Druze, Alawis and Shias who are all going to pay the price if Assad falls. I find it shocking how the US, UK and France are on the same side as Al Qeada. Ayman Al Zalrahi and John McCain aggree on getting Assad out. I dont care what anyone thinks, but we should never be on the same side as Al Qeada. Assad is no angel but his government has kept that fragile country together and we need him to stay.
I couldn't agree more, sam. Thank you for your imput here.
kill yourself today
Why doesn't everybody sit this one out. Let us Canadians handle it. Our army is very strong, seriously, he does pushups every day, and his slingshot is very accurate. Just give us a good sized rock and we'll peg assad for ya's.
because putin is a phukkn !d!0t
Come on bobby, if you want to spew out you're right-wing nonsense here, at least keep the filthy Tea Party lingo out of it, will you? It has absolutely no place on this web page!
The reason Russia is standing by Syria is that Russia has a naval base in the Med and is one of their main clients of weapons. To lose this would be bad for Russia and this the reason why they support Assad. Strategic importance.
saeed,
the u.s is against Syria because we find its wholesale slughter of its own citizens deplorable. Most experts agree that Syria will be a net exporter of oil in the next 10 years so no one is against them for that reason. Putin wants his military base and so he sits idly by as Syrians die....Russia also supports Iran so that might be part of it too. Syria is merely a puppet state of Iran. If Russians ever get access to unfiltered news Putin will have his own problems to worry about until then the cold war continues. If Assad falls Putin will lose his military base for allowing the killing to continue
poor saeed.....such a bitter little fellow. I know most of your rage is out of jealousy and frustration... i mean I am sitting in my 4000 square foot air conditioned house with all the amenities you could think of and you are somewhere on a dirt floor eating dung beetles and using an old piece of cardboard to keep flies from landing on your smelly wife.....better luck in your next life loser!
Dont be too hard on Saeed.
His camel keeps biting him.
Russia is the only country that was not completely decolonized. The country is actively seeking problems for the world to remove the center of attention from itself. It has so-called regions (actually colonies) like Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardina-Balkaria, Karachevo-Cherkessia and Adigea where it kills and puts in prison thousands of innocent muslems. If they lose Syria to the West or the Islamic Caliphat, the next center of problems will be the Russian Caucaus, which is more expolosive than the Southern Balkans. Do not forget that Russia has the largest concentration of Muslems in Europe. They are not in the South, but on the Volga region. It estimated almost 8-10 millions. Who knows, maybe we will have violence there too. Russia is fighting for its own self interest. But, in the long run it will lose. I will give another 5-10 years, before Russian territory itself starts to unravel.
Russia stands by Assad because like Assad, Putin doesn't seem to believe in the will of the people to determine their own destiny!
But unline Putin, Assad does not have all of those great photos of him riding steeds and completing other manly tasks demonstrating his physical prowess. He just has the scraggly looking mustache.
I thought the 'Whale hunting with the crossbow' photo was particularly impressive. ha
Hahahahaha. Saeed cracks me up. Dude really makes the most of his village's 2 hours of electricity every day. I can only laugh at "people" like him. Go back to your hole, sir, and read about run-on sentences. And deoderant.
While the Syrian regime has been brutal, Russia has made some valid points. For one, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar have been funding some pretty questionable groups who have resorted to terrorist acts that have killed civilians. Many of them are Sunni fighters who are involved in a religious war that has spread to Iraq. It seems that the world does not always learn their lessons on what happens when you support fringe groups who eventually become much bigger problems.
The question isn't why a corrupt plutocracy like Russia is sticking to their ally and arms customer Syria. The question is why the "world's beacon of freedom and democracy," the USA, is supporting one of the most repressive regimes in the world (Saudi Arabia). I can never understand people complaining when countries like China and Russia support their dictators and authoritarian regimes when it suits them, when we do the exact same thing. Lets not forget Saddam Hussein was our ally as well when we needed him to counter Iran.
@Eric,
The answer to that question is: We will get to them (Saudi Arabia) eventually. Think of it as a stepping-stone-policy. The U.S. has to allow itself room for larger targets once, and only once, it has the means to do so. As you had described earlier, we were once 'friends' with Iraq (actually, not friends, just having a mutual understanding of one another).
Now that we have maneuvered into a position to take advantage and strike...we did. Simple. You will see that pattern emerge time and time again. What used to be 'allies' are no longer the case.
It's all a part of a much larger game. This is the nature of politics.
I hope this helps
We could care less what Saudi Arabia does to their citizens. All we care about is access to their oil supply.
magog
good call Jim, I read and heard that too.
Perhaps one should ask why the United States did NOT stand by its former friends like the Shah of Iran or Mubarak in Egypt. We are the flaky country whose loyalty is only skin deep, just another political card to be played right before an election, or right after one.
I wouldn't suggest 'flaky' as much as I would 'pragmatic' and 'calculating'. Still not an honorable thing, but much better than foolish any day of the week. There was most likely a mountain of decisions made to leave those situations.
Just a suggestion
Put yourself in the white house for one minute.
America is supposed to be a beacon for freedom.
Egyptians rise up to overthrow Mubareck.
We send in troops to help stop the uprising ?
Or sit back, let it play out, and may the best man win ?
Like it or not Egyptians got what they wanted.
The right to choose thier own leader.
Isnt that what freedom/democracy is about ?
By the way, we did not "prop up" Mubareck.
But we paid him to keep the peace with Israel, and it worked.
That is what real politicians do: they sacrifice their yesterday's friends for a brighter spot in the sun. After all, they can always buy new friends!
Why can't people stay on topic. This thread has become nothing but talking points
Only Republicans use talking points.
And the topic was.... how CNN is so much more superior compared to Russian press?
I am a Vietnamese Canadian. I lived in the country during the Vietnamese – American war and after it ended. I think I have more 'real' knowledge about the war than most people in this forum. To get fair comments just asked Vietnamese people who live abroad eg. America, Canada,... for their opinions about the American and the Vietnamese communists during and after the war ended.; you would be surprised with what you find. Don't believe people like Jane Fonda and many reporters who's opinions were unreal.
This is the latest of many articles on why Russia has its stance with Syria, yet there have been no articles on why China maintains that same stance.
Seems yet another overblown situation for the media to jump all over Russia for the slightest thing, yet once again let China off the hook without the slightest criticism.
That is very accurate observation Jon! Listening to all the "free" media you can nearly believe that Russia is the only obstacle... They do not even discuss China and its motivation! And in fact there were other countries who objected intervention: like India and Brazil – which figured in the news once and only superficially...
So they are not even trying to conceal their bias! Probably because they belive that their consumers are dumbies! And I think they might be very much correct: with only very few exceptions!
Saeed is nothing more than your typical uneducated muslim with a kill everyone mentality. Islam thrives on the ignorant and uneducated people of the world to add to the ranks of the disenchanted.
As long as Putin is around Russia will suffer.
As long as you are around you will suffer.
@Jon
What do you mean by saying, "once again let China off the hook" ..? First of all, China has really no interest what happens in Syria, they are just following Russia because China too, is opposing American expansionism in the Middle East. Second of all, Russia is also doing just that, and I don't think it will back down since there's a lot at stake for the Russians. And third of all, who do you think you are by saying "let China off the hook"? Are you a universal judge or something? I'm assuming you are from the US, so I ask you, Do you think US is the judge in the world, and gets to say whatever it wants and decides who gets off the hook or not? This world is not monopolar anymore. Wake up!
Plain and simple, MONEY in arms contracts
Are you using your own measuring stick?
Drop you freedomiser on them and rush in with your democratizators blazing! Blood and power! Oh yeah: and Oil, Money and Global Dominance!
Putin is afraid the same thing will happen to him, so he keeps supporting Assad!
You mean al Qaeda will instigate a resurrection in Europe and US will finance and supply bands of terrorists who will specifically target Russia? You have got very vivid imagination: I do not think Putin has got anything like it to really get scared!
you all are effed up maybe I should start over.....
Let us all hope that Putin continues to stand his ground at this point. The right-wing thugs in Washington have already bullied far too many people and this is what needs to stop!
Russia has long been a supporter of Syria. Why would the soviets wish to see their influence in the region diminished?
The cold war never ended it just got moved to the back burner to simmer down a bit.
- Mike Danque
What will Russia and China do when the Syrian Opposition after the fall of Assad then reject all ties and support for them?
What US and Israel do when the Syrian Opposition (including "elements of al Qaeda") after the fall of Assad will get its hands on Syrian stockpiles of chemical or whatever weapons?
Russia does not want to lose one of their top arms customers. Billions in sales! Not to mention the Syrians have provided decent intelligence on Sunni sympathizers, including Chechens in Georgia. Putin will continue to support Assad until he outlives his usefulness.
It is because the Russians don't want the world to find the Russian made chemical & biological weapons they've supplied them with.
The world will not find: because al Qaeda will be there first! I like liberals: they are so short-sighted they are afraid to think even one step ahead!
Somebody wake-up and smell coffee, I can sense agents kgb like from here to the border of Russia. Please stop think that they not try to influence your thinking especially here on this forum of CNN. I know how they try portrait all West and I know well enough their methods, just look at Belarus. Why Belarus? I have friend from there and I was told how Russians along with lukashenka there(look putin) limited rights of their own citizens. Stop believe in lies spread through the mouths of agents kgb...
Can smell an KGB agent? Time to change your underwear!
Assad is a good Russian arms customer. Why else do they stand behind this tyrant?
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I do not care where you are from....media is biased and slanted, whether you're in Russia or the US
Isn't it obvious?
Russia has a military base in Syria, and they don't want to lose their toe-hold on the Middle East.
They also make big money, selling arms to Syria.
Also they must be thinking: What if revelolution comes to Russia (again), and they throw out the bums again!
Where did you learn all that? How did you manage to come up with this brilliant ideas? You repeat whatever CNN tells you as a parrot! There is nothing you say that could not be found on CNN reports for the last 6 weeks! Any brain activity to report? I do not think so!
Also, Dictator Putin and Dictator Assad have much in common. They both oversee empires that are corrupt and ruthless, and this satisfies their selfishness and self-serving natures.
Do you know either of them personally?
Ah, you have been told... I thought so!
I am one of the minority to quietly support the Assad governmnet.Its not that I think the government isn't brutal, it is. The problem with the rebels is that they are a potential Taliban or even worse. The Western press dismises this as no proof. Maybe they are not looking. Remember Egypt? Where did the Muslim Brotherhood come from?
Because the alternative is going to take Syria to the dark ages.
"Dozens of Turkish truck drivers on Saturday, July 21, accused Free Syrian Army rebels of having burned and looted their lorries as they captured Syria's Bab al-Hawa post, near Aleppo, from government troops."
Want proof of how Syria will "improve" under the Salafi and Wahabi terrorists? Here is a simple one.
I can't help but think that the political calculus also illustrates to Putin that he should continue to back Syria and effectively allow the massacres to continue there, and thereby benefit since the situation serves as an object lesson to would-be revolutionaries and dreamers in Russia.
As brutal as Assad is, he is better than the alternative: a populist Islamist society that oppresses minorities.
Under Assad, you only get shot if you protest his rule, but under a "rule by the people" you will get shot if you are not a muslim, or if you are a woman seeking education or other civil rights.
Amen. Hence, the West better be careful of what they are asking for. These "freedom fighters" are just jilted people who can't seize power any other way. Now they see an opportunity jump at them in form of the "Arab Spring". Syria could end up going from frying pan to fire.
WHY??? Because the West lied to justify the invasion of their other allies – Iraq, Libya, etc. So it's now "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" type thing. Why would they cooperate to bring down their allies when the West just protects their own allies.
And besides, these "freedom fighters" are not on the streets throwing stones. They're using some heavy guns, probably supplied by the West (it's happened before; anyone remember Iran Contra Affair?).
So despite what some people amy think, the world is not black and white. There's a whole lot of grey in between.
Russia does not want foreign intervention in Syria because Russia does not want foreign intervention in Chechniya. China does not want foreign intervention in Syria because China does not want foreign intervention in Tibet.
"When the Russian press reports the latest Syria news, it by and large lacks any real detail and analysis, instead parroting the official Kremlin line that the Syrians oppose outside intervention. The Western press, in contrast, teems not only with first-hand reports, but also interviews that offer a broad range of perspectives, discussion and debate."
- This is why CNN's ratings are sinking,
The hypocrisy of the western governments is unbeleivable. All you guys want is to interfere and install yet another puppet government in a middle easter nation. They're protecting their interests just as you would if the same thing happened in Bahrain under that totalitarian regime (think, the US 5th Fleet). Give it up, and deal with your own huge domestic problems. I'm cheering Russia all the way!!
Thank you, Svend. I too favor the Russians this time. It's we Americans who are acting deplorably and being the world's biggest bully!
Oh, we're being the bully? Yeah, and the guy murdering innocent children by the score each day is a great hero, to say nothing of his support for Iran and the Hezbollah terrorists. I guess when he rordered the execution of Lebanon's PM (Hiriri) he was just being neighborly. You people are fools.
Russians? They're a race of slaves.
the breeze, Russia is a "race"??? Do you know how big russia is and how many races live there? It would be like calling Israel and Palestine a diff. race (lol)
Russians are Slavs, not slaves
English words are funny that way.
First and most those who blame Jewish in USA and EU behind all of these...they should know who ever are wiser then
Tha shall control!?? so when 5 miliion gews are able to make 300 millons Americans in their hands then why not
few millions Palestinians hehh!?so do not bother yourself is 7 thousands history behind them not 270 years Super power
as USA get over it and be calm
Putin knows as I do that america doesnt give a damn about the muslim terrorist that assads army is fighting against. putin also saw first hand how the fool Federov was dumb enough to believe Obama and cameron when russia abstained on their vote on libya!
putin also knows that the rebels are FOREIGN JIHADIST who are being armed by america to destabilize syria. and putin also knows that america's media sites, CNN especially are nothing but propoganda mouth pieces for the US govt.
putin is doing the right thing on syria!
Go move to Russia you worthless Benedict Arnold rat. I'm sick of you little treasonous s its. Assad supports Hezbollah, just like his father. You side with Assad you side against the US. Move out mutiny rat!
chris, BINGO
I am deeply shocked – and disturbed – by how many people here support Assad just because they despise their government. Russia is not doing this to save civilian lives. However evil supporting the rebels may be, be under NO illusions that Putin's government actions are any better.
I just can't wait for China to become the new superpower. So sick of the U.S.
Well, that's dandy comrade. Give me a call once you realize that you life has zero value to your new Communist overlords and that you are readily expendable. Capitalism may be a real mess, but you have no idea the evil that the alternative offers.
China does have a capitalistic economy, just not a democratic government. They probably "out-capitalist" the US. Democracy in government does not mean capitalism in the economy, or vise-versa.
Russia is just supporting the same kind of genocidal, psychotic government that they are. Putin, a proud Chekist, takes pride in knowing he enabled an evil regime to treat all of its citizens as animals and chattle. I'm Putin personally murdered political dissendents in his day. He is nothng more than a Stalinist, extending support for his criminal bretheren. say what you will about the fiobles of US foreign policy, but we never murdered 20 million people in the name of ideology.
Your hate exceeds you knowlege. Easy E to you!
The assertion by the author that the western media groups are presenting an unbiased and factual account of the Syria situation is a fallacy. most of these media reports are being filed by reporters who are either reporting from the border countries like Turkey or Lebanon with no access inside Syria or are embedded (as in Iraq)with the rebels. in both these cases, their main and only source of information are the rebels, who as is expected in a war want to spread as much propaganda against the regime as they can. In the various videos being posted by these groups, it can be seen that there are more people with cameras than there are with guns, because they fully well know that this war is more about perceptions than ground reality . So it is expected from the western media groups who seem to make much of their accuracy and objectivity of their reporting to exercise utmost caution and vet every bit of info for authenticity and only then report it , but instead we have emotional, biased and shrill reporting which may be appealing to the masses (who are rightfully disgusted by a dictator who is apparently hell bent on killing everyone who opposes him), but it is neither objective nor good journalism.
So if everybody is getting the story wrong. Why not give the media access? Al assad is getting a bad wrap... let them in so they can get their facts straight or maybe just maybe..... they see something the govt doesn't want them to see.
The UN and NYTimes reported the Tremseh as a false massacre that was a battle.....Why is CNN still reporting it as a massacre?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/world/middleeast/details-of-a-battle-challenge-reports-of-a-syrian-massacre.html?pagewanted=all
Why all the focus on Russia and not on China's position on Syria? Perhaps China is too powerful to challenge, so we pick a less threatening, benevolent country - Russia.
Russia is by far more powerful than China my dear. Form nuclear perspective China has 400 nukes while Russia has 2,000 + 15,000 tactical nuclear weapons. Also Russia’s natural resources, mere size and technological advances in space, missile and Nano tech even surpasses US in some cases. All Chinese weapons are a copy of soviet 1980’s weapons. Also Chinese are happy, go lucky, grow rice people, not interested or hell bend on world domination.
The only arena of power Russia has is in its nuclear weapons. However, the US nuke weapons are vastly more accurate and reliable – especially the delivery systems for the weapons. Plus the US has some ability to knock out missiles Russia may fire. Russia has zero capability to knock out US missiles. On the conventional arms front, Russia is dramatically weaker than the US. Russia's navy is dilapidated and weak. Russia’s space capability is drowning in tremendous technical and funding problems. Without a high price for oil, Russia has little to speak of for an economy. China, on the other hand, has a rising military, a rising space program, and an economy that may soon pass the US in size. China and the US are now the world’s giants, not Russia.
China, they both know what the west is up to in Syria: (control)
Why don't you ask Fareed about the Bilderbergers.
Anna, excellent report and insight. However we all know that Russia has a national security interest in it's port in Syria and the Russian media has always been somewhat more constictive in allowing full freedom of press. Information for our own press is difficult to obtain in Syria and can be subject to the one sided reports we are obtaining (rebels). The BIG question is WHY CHINA is supporting Russia's opinion of no intervention.
Thank you for investigating and reporting
The bottom line is Russia and china would do the same to if citizens....... if need be...... Plus syria gives them a good deal on oil, if they keep us from stomping that a__ furthermore if it wasn't for oil The middle east would make Africa look like a superpower.
WHY is China supporting Russia in its stance to not intervene in Syria?
I can't help it, but I like Putin. Putin is a bad a** and a man's man. Putin used to be a secret agent with the KGB and he knows the games of international politics. He also has a good sense of humor and I think Obama and Biden like him too.
All right, I don't want to inflate Putin's ego. He MUST be diplomatic and keep his feet on the ground and actuate agreements with the west (no stalemates). But Putin is the type of guy who needs to be dealt with face to face in person. I hope Obama and Biden will meet with him in person in Moscow (smart diplomatic move for us)
Kevin,
Lol the game is on will se who wins.
Adam, too much fun isn't it. But it sucks that all these people are still killing each other playing this political game. The cultures of the ME are so regressed (including Israel)
Russia sticks by al-Assad only because Russians like "brave and strong" Putin who is not afraid to say "No" to the USA.
Russians see thiat as a sign of power, they like to feel that they can have influence on something on the global scale. They don't care whether or not they get any benefits out of it – no, they do it just because they are compensating for their misery.
As for comrade Putin, he likes to be liked. He is a populist and a little insecure gnome who needs to be noticed and respected, so he acts along.
why so much of hatred? comparison who is good and who is bad? who is better than the others? please don't do it..........everyone is equal that's all.........this article is on current situation on syria....... lets hope everything settles down for the better of its people.......think about the peaceful solution in long term.......current syrian govt. gave hints its wmd may owned by rebels if the rebels come to the power and according to the govt. these rebels are the terrorists supported by ???alkaida and the ???nato (how can be this combination possible)......so, does anyone clearly know about these rebels? and Asad is killing and killing for power or also to save the better future (if it is true that the rebels belong to the extremists, definitely they gonna use these weapons against........ everyone can guess)....... So, intentions of rebels should be clarify first and definitely killing of any human being as well as animals should be stopped too.
about press freedom, i don't think even the us has 100% free one and i believe all of us who reads different newspapers from different corners of the world knows that well. just for one small example, recent chinese space success was not much highlighted even in CNN..... but why? but bbc had it on its headline........sometimes, guys don't u think CNN is too much biased and pathetic? bottom line is don't fully believe on medias. they don't give u 100% true story........cause they work for someones' interests......be happy and be peaceful........i love to read watch news from different medias.....
It's obvious, if the same happens in Russia one day and the people say enough is enough, they will use the same tactics as Assad, attempt to bludgeon the opposition into submission with all available force. So the Russian government is simply telling the world they are just like Assad.
It's obvious, if the same happens in US one day and the people say enough is enough, they will use the same tactics as CNN: they will call black white and white black, lie and label whatever they like... They are firm believers in mind over matter: whoever controlls media controlls the world! Great job CNN – you have got a believer here!
"mind over matter" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Western media needs to report objectively on Syria.
.1) it needs to report on the full spectrum of “who does what” bad things. It needs to complain about the opposition that uses force as well as the government. Media should not take sides as it is doing. Media in the west is fully supporting the opposition just because it is in opposition of the government.
2) Western media needs to complain about any outside country that provides weapons to fighters regardless if they are part of some opposition movement or the Assad government.
3) It needs to focus on the USA and its Euro and middle-eastern allies and China as the powerful external influences in the country.
4) It is a joke western news spends so much time on Russia. China and the USA are the world’s powers, with India up-and-coming.
The western media has to stop making up a bad guy. The only arena of power Russia has is in its nuclear weapons. However, the US nuke weapons are vastly more accurate and reliable – especially the delivery systems for the weapons. Plus the US has some ability to knock out missiles Russia may fire. Russia has zero capability to knock out US missiles. On the conventional arms front, Russia is dramatically weaker than the US. Russia's navy is dilapidated and decaying. Russia’s space capability is drowning in tremendous technical and funding problems. Without a high price for oil, Russia has little to speak of for an economy. China, on the other hand, has a rising military, a rising space program, and an economy that may soon pass the US in size. China and the US are now the world’s giants, not Russia.
"The Western press, in contrast, teems not only with first-hand reports, but also interviews that offer a broad range of perspectives, discussion and debate."
...annnnd I need a new BS meter.
So Russian's are hoodwinked out of ignorance about what is going on in Syria by their leaders. Isn't that special. Pay attention Russian's. Your leader is backing a mass murderer.
woodie: beware of wood warm infestation! It damages your brain!
"wood warm infestation"?????????????????????????????
Iliiminati Conspiracy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
muslim ignorance!
Russians don't oppose Putin sticking with Assad because they are ignorant. They side with Putin because they are ambivalent. Social decay from the collapse of the Soviet Union nurtures a sense of Apathy in the Eastern block counties. Lets be honest, the Russian people are more concerned about what Putin will do for them then they are about what Putin will do to help people in Syria. To most Russians, Islam is synonymous with Chechnya...
Everyone here is missing the obvious among the partisan sniping. Both the Russian and Chinese leadership fear the day their own people see it is possible for a popular uprising to throw off a dictatorial regime. Mr. Putin and Mr. Hu both see their own government's weakness vividly on display in Syria and both "leaders" know their own military and security forces would be no less successful at putting down a popular uprising than their Syrian counterparts are.
This is also whe their press does not tell their people the truth. Both China and Russia's ruling cliques are painfully aware of the discontent of their own citizens and fear them more than death. They know if their own people get a whiff of what has really be happening abroad, they will both end their days like Mr. Kadafy.
The big questions? Who is the good guys and who is the bad guys in this conflict? We made the mistake of over throwing Saddam. Saddam was pro western, and our ally when Reagan was president.
Then came the Bush's. Wars since 1992.
This is all Jesus's fault for throwing a fit in the headcourters of the Jewish money traders. Now we have Islam hating Israel and Russia hating America and Republicans hating Democrats and Cosco hating Walmart. Those darn Christians, they are always starting trouble
Jesus good.
Moorhamed mean, deceitful, killer, greedy, war monger...
Don't mix the two.
Russian president Putin has a lot of support on this page. Very curious indeed.
If Russia is siding with Assad to preserve their military port on the Mediterrean Sea then they have taken a big gamble because when Assad is removed, the next ruling faction, whatever it is, will not be pleased with Russia and probably want it removed.
The US is finally 'getting' this. Go with what is right and just and you never lose. We have been working in concert with other countries during the Arab Spring. There are problems, of course. The US had problems, still do, but democracy is the best form of government. Russia has yet to achieve a true democracy, but there is hope.
"The US is finally 'getting' this. Go with what is right and just and you never lose." – do you mean aligning with al Qaeda and playing with terrorists again – like with Mujahidin and Taliban in 80-s?
Bring more human sacrifices to your Democracy goddess, prove that you are her most devoted servant: and she will grant you the World Domination!
Why is Israel not mentioned in this article? You know they have their greedy little hands in this. Oh, I forgot if we mention Israel in any way we will just feed into their theology of being the victims of the world. LOL (I think)
If you did "think" you might not say stupid things.
Are you seriously not aware that we can all see that you are hate mongering?
And we know you have been baptised by Netanyahoo. Zionist's friend. Have you ever thought of telling the truth to your relatives and families in your life before pasing away ? Have you ever written the truth about Zionist's actrocities in illegal settlements ? Have you ever open your freaking Lips to tell the readers about hidden Znionist's atomic bomb ? You are an angel desended from the sky to defend the activities of aparthaid and suppresson.
Rahi1
Give me examples that can be validated and declared reliable.
No fair calling on allah, his profiteer, family members, friends, people living in a muslim community.
All I see from you and your muslim friends is bluster and lies.
Rahi1
Because you have called me a bad name, I am leaving this blog. I am going to allow you and the muslim riff-raff you hang out with all day talk dirt about people who are better than you.
Rahi1
I was just kidding of course!
I would like to understand if it is your upbringing, a specific trauma you have lived through, your religion that makes you an anti-Semite, anti-Christian, anti-Chinese, anti-Russian, anti-Hindu, anti-anything other than islam.
Why do so many muslims hate so much. Does it not control your whole lives?
This is an unsatisfactory analysis. Anna Borshchevskaya proffers no explanation why Putin chose to support Assad, not any other alternative. Putin could hedge between Assad and opposition, keeping a safe distance from both. Or he could bridge the difference between Assad & opposition to avoid bloodshed from escalating, thus making him a hero to Syrians. I'd like Borshchevskaya to explain or speculate why Putin did not try other revenue. Instead she posits Putin has to listen public opinions and public opinions are manipulated by Russian Government. If not allowed to manipulate public opinions, Putin would have to follow public opinions which would be in favor of supporting opposition. This is nonsense. All great leaders, including each and every of them in the West, influenced and directed public opinions to lead. Only mediocre leaders with no strong conviction read public opinions to make a decision. Remember how unpopular Ronald Reagan was during his first term?
I totally agree with the Russians on this one. Neither the U.S. nor any of it's rubber-stamp allies have any business in Syria. Unfortunately, most of the ignorant fools here don't seem to be buying into that. Like I said before, you can't cure stupidity!
well said. I only wants to add that curing the stupidity requires self thinking and self assessment. Which most of the free launcher writer here on this forum lacking. These bonnie living vast land of ignorants can't see beyond their nose. Ask them the geographic of the globe and they will tell you they never been out of their born circle.
Marine5484 – please provide
1. How you think that even though the Syrians have asked USA for help, the USA should not be involved.
2. your reasons for not wanting any country involved in helping Syrians.
for the following comment you have made:
"Neither the U.S. nor any of it's rubber-stamp allies have any business in Syria. "
nina:
You are one pathetic bigot and I don't need to feed you the knowledge to become tolerant. Your perceived enimosity against Muslims and your biased is well known here with your red neck postings. I asked you few questions Knowing well that people like you will never have answers for them even if you are born again with same mentality. Your reply is a typical of a racist and you deserve to stay in the state of ignorance. There is no evidence needed for the kind of atrocities your baptised nation is exercising for decades.There is no evidence good enough for ignorant like you to convince you that Isreal did have nuclear weapons. On a personl basis, one can easily conclude from your posting that you never have spoken the truth in your life.
Come on, nina. Anyone with half a brain would know how right I am here. Neither the U.S. nor any of it's rubber-stamp allies, and I do mean rubber-stamp since none of these bureaucrats in Europe seem to have a mind of their own, have not only no business in Syria but no right even to be there anymore than in Afghanistan!!!
TJBPHOENIX
All those bureaucrats, what are you judging them on. Do you have anything tangible for such a judgment?
How do you know Syrians asked US for help?
What were the names of Syrians who asked US for help? Who did they communicate to and by what means? How do you know that they represent all Syrians, or at least some Syrians besides themselves?
How many sources confirm that Syrians asked US for help? Can you name some of them?
Did Syrians asked US to invade Syria? Did they ask to bomb Syria? Did they ask to impose economical sanctions on themselves? Did they ask to Send them money? Did they ask send them tickets to Disney Land? Did they ask to assassinate all rebel leaders? What kind of help did they ask for?
How do you manage to preserve your trust in CNN in spite of all the evidence of it being bias, hypocrite and war-mongering?
Andrey – chill, the USA is not in Syria – yet.
Right now it is Muslim killing Muslim.
Andrey – "How do you manage to preserve your trust in CNN in spite of all the evidence of it being bias, hypocrite and war-mongering?"
Do you have any proof?
Where is your evidence?
Can you describe what you mean when you state that CNN is a hypocrite?
What exactly does the term "war-mongering" mean to you?
This previous statement of yours certainly shows your true colours:
Andrey
What US and Israel do when the Syrian Opposition (including "elements of al Qaeda") after the fall of Assad will get its hands on Syrian stockpiles of chemical or whatever weapons?
July 24, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Reply
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Andrey
US has built so many financial pyramids in so many ways: they have difficulty to figure them all out! I think they should invent a new level of bankruptcy: something more spectacular and with more fun! After all, that is where they are going for years and decades to come!
July 23, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Reply
Nina: You made some quotes of my posts, That was quite flattering, thank you! It is a pity they were probably not the best ones: not those I was proud of myself.
So what was you point BTW?
Mine was that people should make an effort to think for themselves: to think about some things that CNN somehow never comes around to report....
You need a proof of CNN being bias, that it is a hypocrite? Want to know what war-mongering means to me? Sorry, cannot help you. You either start thinking for yourself, or just keep repeating what you have been told by others. That is your choice!
BTW: it seems that you did not answer any of my questions. Well I never expected you to. I thought you may have a problem with that because your Opinion and your Knowledge were divorced after finding that they have absolutely nothing in common!
Funny Andrey – nope I am not going to explain my rantings, you need to figure them out by yourself. In the real world Andrey, when you make a statement, you back it up with plenty of research and examples or you could be labelled an idiot.
Great advice Nina: I hope you will follow it!
How do you know its great advice?
Was it couched as an advice or was it more of a directory?
When would that advice be best put to action?
What would the responses be?
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...remember that little boy that was sent back to russia by the adoptive parents? the guy that took him back (appears ot be bothering a woman at a ranch now), told that little boy that boys don't cry. That's patriarchy. That's wrong. I don't think they have the right guy for the job. Boys do cry. Stop trying to blunt their emotions.
Russia backs and supports all their ally's.... what a stupid question. Well.... that's CNN for you. Some of you really need to pick up a history book once in awhile. " well if the US helps Israel kill innocent Palestine people"... WHAT! Palestine has only been trying to grab Israeli land since the dawn of time. Look a map of the Kingdom of Judah.....it was all theirs. The Palestine people are nomads. I wish the US would have kept our noses out of Libya, Egypt and Syria..... cause all three of those leader's protected the christian population's. They now are being slaughtered...... thanks to Obumer and his ilk!
well,when the Russian elected Puttin ,they relected the last ditector they will have.He is buying drones to control his population.they also elected someone that would change how the world will see them too.they are evolved into something new for them.They are building their own democraty,,at least it will help them have a better life.Puttin is turning back the clock now,,,,,,,,they will have to moove into something that will have to define themself.
i find not surprising to see China ( that has no respect what so ever for his people) and Russia no voting for saving the Syria people BUT time will see that they will understand (the syrian population) what they did.
Noooooooooooooooo, not those ungodly drones.
Loosing Siria means Russia will loose its infuence in the region.....www.websendsms.com
"saeed,"
Your sentiments are foolish and illogical.
Return to your post, read it, and then make some analysis that is helpful to the readers around the world.
Good posting, saeed. I totally agree. Let's all hope that the Russians stand their ground and not cave in!
You must have the same diabolical mind as the Colorado cinema shooter. I'm pretty sure you need psychiatric help a.s,a,p or you'll gonna be a serious threat to mankind very soon.
Saeed....why involve australia and new zealand? What have we done wrong? You need to take your blinkers off and become a citizen of the world, and stop wishing harm on others. Maybe the West does have it's own agenda when it comes to Syria, but rest assured so does Russia and China. Your ignorance and hostility is both astonishing and disgusting.
those countries are under our umbrella. Russia would make a fatal mistake.
I can't wait until Russian nukes tel aviv – and I can't wait until China nukes london.
Because Russia always supports corrupt regimes. They are number one ally for Iran's theocracy.
The whole world hates israel
What a load of crap!
Canada has 10 times more oil than Syria, why haven't the US invaded it?
All Arabs know what to do is blame everyone else for the misery they're in.
Children and women murdered in their homes by Assad and you're blaming Britain and US?
What a moron!
This guy (saeed) gets to post this sociopathic drivel, and he has no idea that in Russia he would get jailed for comments like those (if they were directed at Russia or it's allies).
When Assad falls, we need to be there to help the rebels. They will be ready to kick the Russians out, and we might get to bid on the base (or steer it to an ally). For years many thought that any Iraqi chemical/biological weapons crossed over into Syria. Those will need to be secured, and we might be able to purchase them in exchange for development aid (which Syria will need). We need to make it clear that if Russia stands against the rebels, they can kiss their base in Syria goodbye – perhaps that will help them decide to do the right thing and stop helping a Gov't that uses it's military on it's own people, and has committed thousands of war crimes including the torturing of children.
Coo Coo!!
Russia does not trust the US. During WW2, the Russians did the heavy lifting and the US acts like IT won the war. For every American killed in WW2, 100 Russians were killed. If that isn't the Heavy Lifting, I don't know what is. Bush, Obama and Hillary's condescending treatment of Putin doesn't help matters.
Saeed,
Your breakfast is ready.
Camel pie.
Topped with Camel dung syrup.
steal huh? I wonder why we pay tens of billions of dollars to BUY the oil? whats up with that logic MUSTAFA?
England is kind of irrelevant at this point no?
Russia won't launch any ICBMs ... They don't have a death wish.
If russia launches .. the USA will launch and everyone will be dead.
Its called Mutually Assured Destruction or M.A.D for short.
I would not expect YOU to understand the concept .. I know you would love nothing more than to blow up everyone ... in the name of allala or whatever.
this saeed fellow sits all day by a donated to islamic charity pc and jumps on every forum with the same message his immam prepared – US is evil, blah, blah, blah.
The truth is that the western analysis simply cannot be trusted. The western intentions have always been bombing, bombing and bombing, they will lie to their teeth just to find an excuse to bomb people to death.
Russia sticks by Assad because they have no one else in the re4gionexcept maybe Iran the other loser regime
Russia is not a free country but much better than China where minorities like Tibetans live in ghetto like conditions in their own country, reminiscent of nazi era. And I would caught death trying to support countries such as these two. But at the same time, the propaganda being what it is in Russia, the west has also steadfastly displayed a total lack of objectivity when dealing with Syria. It seems almost as if the western media is there to help the cause of the rebels/freedom fighters/foreign fighters etc at the total negation of what the govt's position is. I did not see any news outlet that showed the support rally for President Assad and the proper breakdown of the opposition's hold. We don't even know who these people are and I think it will be a big mistake to support an unknown group who could prove to be equally ruthless and bring about even more carnage than what we have seen as soon as they get the upper hand. It seem to be the norm in these areas unfortunately. Whether the west tried their best or not, they will always turn around and hate us. i don't see much point there.
saeed, put down the crack pipe go back to work , or you and your kind might find yourselves blown back into the stone age by american navel power , we my man hold the real power not china , and not russia .
saeed, Much of what you say is correct in terms of a world full of human cattle. I can only hope and dream of you being the first to be offered up for slaughter. The pits of fire await your arrival anxiously, hope to see you there saeed.
Saeed, my, my saeed, Much of what you say is correct in terms of a world full of human cattle. I can only hope and dream of you being the first to be offered up for slaughter. The pits of fire await your arrival anxiously, hope to see you there saeed.
hats off to saeed he is dead right
Hey knuckle head tere is no oil in Syria!
God please forgive Saeed for he is dim of wit.And he need's to take a bath he is ripe.
I really think nobody, I really mean nobody should dignify this saeed with an answer or a comment. He is a totally hateful trouble maker on the blogs. ANSWERING JUST FUELS HIS IDIOTIC RAMBLE.
just like they lied about iraqy oil, yet china seems to get it all. couple a nukes here a couple a nukes there and the world is in flames. from the chaos comes your dear beloved prophet for a thousand years of eutopia..... see you on the battlefield.
And you Sir are an idiоt. Yes, you are.
Saeed Is that you, stop putting your finger in your butt and smelling it. I told you that would be a problem when you stopped using toilet paper
Assad is a dictator that slaughters his own countrymen, including women and children by the tens of thousands. Russia needs to stop supporting him, period. Of course, Russia is used to bloodthirsty dictators, so I suppose many Russians think this is just normal governance.
just how retarded you are..
Your a crackpot
It is OK for American backed Israel to kill innocent Palestinians and get away with murder? I think not. If American don't budge why should Russians. Besides NATO intelligence agencies are pumping in weapons for rebels so why shouldn't the government fight back.
Comparing the 1 Palestinian terrorist that Israel kills once a year to a mass murder of 200 bodies a day is a bit foolish, don't you think?
Everybody hates israel
No not everybody. Just those who are ignorant, stupid bigots who feel belittled by a people better then them.
....al-assad.. one of the last political figures NOT controlled by the US... the syrian rebels... made up of mi6, blackops and all of westerners military cream posing as rebels... media posting images and pictures taken over 9 years ago in Iraq as if they were recent massacres committed by monsters... but they always forget to look in the mirror before bashing anyone...
do you really think we'd be having this conversation if OIL and PIPELINES were NOT present in the region ???
....used to love usa... back when I was a kid... back when I knew nothing....... now I see the 13 stars on top of the eagle of your official sceal... and wonder.... where's that 13th zionist tribe ...... since it was proven that colorado indians had jew dna dating back some 200 years..... just around 1776.... just around 1782.....
now I just hate humans .. for the stupidity they promote, perpetuate....
Blow it all up ... this is going no where...
Russia is simply trying to abide by the U.N.'s charter, something NATO countries have not beein doing:
"Every State has the duty to refrain from organizing or encouraging the organization of irregular forces or armed bands including mercenaries, for incursion into the territory of another State."
and again:
"Every State has the duty to refrain from organizing, instigating, assisting or participating in acts of civil strife or terrorist acts in another State or acquiescing in organized activities within its territory directed towards the commission of such acts, when the acts referred to in the present paragraph involve a threat or use of force"
So if you have two brain cells to rub together you can clearly see that what NATO did in Libya, and is doing again in Sirya, is a BIG no,no. Putin is just stealing from Bush's line: "Fool me twice, you can't fool me again"
KinGChaOs
The 13 stars represent the original 13 colonies. (Mass. N.H. R.I. Conn. N.Y. N.J., Penn, Del. Maryl. Va. N.C. S.C. G.A)
Read a book.
nina,
You had made your point well until you proclaimed that Israelies are better people than others. That may be true but only on an individual basis. It has nothing to do with their nationality. So If you're Jewish, you can understand why some people may hate you.
Syria has killed more of its own citizens in the last 18 months than Israel has killed Palestinians in the last 15 years
Israel doesn't kill women and children and is not ruled by a dictator.
Dear Lyndsie Graham
Russia..You mean the country where they kill there own reporters after they've been too critical about Chechnya (among other things)..
Two wrongs don't make it right..You say that becaus the US do things wrong Russia is allowed to do the same?
I remember a bumbersticker that read: "Afganistan is russian for Vietnam"... .
You have the freedom to post whatever you what..try to remember where that freedom is comming from .
Ca ca!! Coo Coo's friend
dear pete snot... huhu
free-dumb.... because the more there are... the easier it gets to control them ....
propaganda...
...the devils best move was convincing us he doesn't exist...
and yeah, we all know y'all yankees are too full of pride to admit where you go wrong....
but hey.... who cares... .we're all just cattles anyways .. and yeah, you too... you'll see....
Western media has some huge issues of misreporting too. While not defending Russian media, they do try to be objective. I am sure Russian media too says that they are better than western media!
Bottom line.... some of the innocents being massacred have family in the syrian military. Eventually the military will lose it's will to follow orders...... Al assad will fall ...... just like the Israelis are going to destroy irans nukes. And I hope the US gets to punch someone in the mouth in the process. The middle east is the toilet bowl of the world, if not for oil ...... they would make Africa look like a superpower.
Dear Lyndsie Graham
@pete snot wrote a slanted impression of Russia, which I would like to correct. Perhaps Pete is one of the 80% of Americans without passports and has not traveled much, which could explain his views. Russia that is being described has nothing with reality. Russia today is more democratic and free than USA is. USA was free and democratic in 60's.
Piotr – Perhaps you could expound on how Russia is freer than the USA. You started this and consequently you should explain yourself.
I don't think he likes Aussies or Kiwis. But he doesn't want to talk about why?
because he has no concept of what analysis entails.
Simply, Saeed is a muslim who hates anyone better then his cult.
nina, why does someone has to be better than others for you always? you need to check your brain
scott: Great reply! Canada Loves aussies! yet we have a problem. his name is Saeed. He is putting a lot of hope in Russias technology (probably because the mideast is a steaming pile of barbaric crap with no lethal tech) I hope that Submarine is off the coast of melbourne, catches fire, then we bring up the wreckage and scrap metal and build some Holdens and Chevys!
I think Saeed fits the profile of a sadistic madman. He needs to see a psychiatrist before it's too late.
oooooooooooooo so scary!!..........ooooooooooooo is there a rank below dumb, dumber and dumbest? if so, it is this poster.
So you want the world to end huh?
I guess the world isn't in enough trouble without fallout from radiation soif tha happens i hope we nuke you. Please give us your cordinates
Hey Sissy (hopefully you are female) what good could come of what you are proposing.We will not allow such a thing to happen to friendlly nations. We don't mind if the nuke all the sheet heads in the Arabic World that is our plan.
Nuking Zionists will create a smag full of contamination you will ever see. You better drown them in the ocean before nuking them so we can save the earth form the Sulpher burn.
Saeed, what camel steaks and chocolate is better?
too much hookah fries the brain, in your case poached. time to leave the convenience store and return to the islamic center.
frank -let people speak their minds, dont be an extremist by trying to stop free speech!
This Guy is a neo Nazi, and Sameed, I need you to shut your mouth of that filth. you don't deserve free speech, you deserve a 'short drop and a sudden stop' . problem is, Muslims believe the crap you spew, you disgust me and the developed world ( your nation is barbaric). Like the Nazi's were cancer to the earth with their hate and death and propaganda, you too will either cause the death of earth, or Jesus will put you in your place. you disgusting mongral.
Why do you lie? Your part of the world or your kind of people maybe but not the whole world, ridiculous comment
like you have become ..
Sameer
I know you are but what am I?
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
So for you "heavy lifting" means to reward bad combat tactics that result in more combat deaths. Human wave attacks is not only a foolish and stupid remnant of World War 1, it also exponentially increases your casualties. The Germans were smart – they just machinegunned Russian prisoners so wouldn't have to feed them.
that's because russians can't fight.
In reality, America did the heavy lifting, check the history. The US fought in Northen Africa and Italy. Taking heavy toll on the people does not mean a thing, when a person talks about Russia. Half of the Russian Army Generals were incompetent and complete idiots. Of course, if you have half a brain general you most likely will take a lot of killed. American gave Russia food and armaments. What would Russia had done if not for America.Russia made the pact with the Devil-Hitler. It was about to face the consequences of the pact.
ROFL Russia had ONE front. America had North Africa, Southern Europe, Western Europe AND the entire PACIFIC. The russians died because of their inept strategy AND they killed their OWN people who refused to rush a pillbox..ya brilliant.
The Soviet Union had an alliance with Nazi Germany until June 1941. The Soviet Union invaded and annexed parts of Poland, the Baltics, etc, in 1940 as Nazi Germany invaded and annexed nations.
The Soviet Union can never erase this stain.
Everyone calls the conflict "World War Two". Except Russia, which calls it "The Great Patriotic War", as if it had nothing to do with the UK, Canada, the US, Poland, and many other nations. Americans are the second most arrogant people in the world. Russians are the most arrogant.
In regards to the role during the WWII, the former Soviet Union, Red Army has surely shouldered 80% of all war efforts.
Not to forget it was fighting on it's own soil, where as the Americans send solders only. SU lost over 30 Million People in a bestial racial war (by the way, based on the Eugenic movement developed in USA).
Soviet Union had a totally underdeveloped industry and having understood that the war was coming, it decided to make a deal with Hitler – same as all other European nations did a deal with him to avoid war – even more, Americans supported and financed Hitler. (See IBM, GM, Cornegy Foundation, Eugenics, Rockefeller Foundation).
The wide tolerated opinion, that US contributed the most to defeat Hitler, which actually is exact the opposite true – it supported Hitler even during the war (IBM had run all the concentration camps; the tattoos on arms are IBM numbers!), shows just how effective the media manipulation in US works, no to mention the intentional distortion of history.
It was the Red Army who has freed Auschwitz, where as the allies had bombed all Germany, but not one time the rail ways which transported the Jews to the gas chambers (Gas chambers – also an invention by the Eugenic US society).
Anyway, all deeds of the US in the recent history are aimed to keep the US-Petro-Dollar empire. Other big nations, like Russia, will prevent a mono polar world – and that's exactly what is best for all – no one needs a dictatorship by only one country, be it Russia, China or US.
Best.
Also when China and Russia gave the consent to act in order to save the people of Libya, the west went further than what these two countries gave them the go ahead to do. The us is very good at pushing the envelope to achieve their very own goals. That deception has been the main factor in the way China & Russia have acted with Syria. Never again! I believe would be the thought of those two countries. For them, the west cannot be trusted again.
Another thing, has any of the western reporters ever tried to figure out how many of the civilians, soldiers etc were killed in Syria by arms supplied by the "friends of Syria" et al. How could you supply arms and talk of supplying more to fuel a fight and then act like a peacemaker at the same time. Do you think Assad's military killed all of the people reported in the western news? I guess they killed their own top brass, eh?
The hypocrites living in the west now have to face up to the rising powers of the world and it will not be easy for them since they are all bankrupt and not admitting it.
Russia and China are on the right side whether the lowly public opinion in the west sees it otherwise. The west just wants to take down Assad to clip the wings of Iran...then they will go after Chavez, then Brazil, then Argentina, etc. This nonsense has to stop now...and Putin is the man to stop it with the help of China and the rising powers of Brazil, South Africa, India, etc.
The west needs good luck on its way downhill. They have abused the entire world. Correction time is here.
Have a good day
Ram will be the first to cry like a lamb for the "West" to help him if and when he needed help.
Ivan,
more than 50% of the 100 were actually shot in the back by NKVD or KGB or whatever
They will bomb Assad today, and they will hope that Syria will never get back on its feet like Iraq and Afghan. But if someone else took power, they will bomb you too. The western intention is to assure your destruction and so can they enjoy the power of the dominance.
Do you honestly think the world would stand idly by as the US attempts to invade Canada? Do you honestly think the US has any hope of a justification for an invasion of Canada? I'm not saying the US has any interest in invading its own neighbour, but to use the rationale that Canada has more oil than Syria to downplay the reasons for America wanting to invade Syria is silly.
Canada oil makes gasoline to cold to use in NAscar trucks
The only machines that can run on Canadian gasoline are Arctic Cat Snowmobiles and Zamboni's
Russia kwows not to force the wrath of the powerfull and all mighty Americans. Do you dot heads still wipe your a#ss with your hands.
Saeed Killer
This is the part in the act where you start acting really anti-muslim. Thanks to allah, a good muslim is allowed to lie about being muslim if it suits the situation. Then your girlfiend will call "islamaphobia" and all your other little friends will complain and explain that islam is the religion of peace. Good act, not buying it.
camel balls
The US needs to send in the SEALS and take Assad out.
there is oil in syria
Indeed, and that is why Russia supports Assad.