By Michael O’Hanlon, Special to CNN
Michael O’Hanlon is senior fellow at Brookings and author of The Wounded Giant: America’s Armed Forces in an Age of Austerity. The views expressed are his own.
Military strikes against the uranium enrichment facilities at Natanz and Qom, together with other possible targets related to Iran’s nuclear infrastructure, could last for a single day and single sortie – or they could last for several days or even weeks. The latter possibility of course implies American participation too, and probably requires the use of air bases in one or more Gulf states as well, given the likely U.S. interest in using stealthy planes that at present don’t fly from aircraft carriers (though B-2 bombers could fly from Diego Garcia, for example).
So what is the likely effectiveness, and what are the likely risks, of each possible approach? I’d argue that there is there is significant unpredictability about how well an air campaign by Israel in particular would work – not least in terms of how much of the existing Iranian nuclear infrastructure it would destroy, and how long it might take Iran to recover (and that’s even leaving aside the huge issue of how Iran might retaliate).
First, though, it’s worth reviewing some basic information on previous, somewhat analogous, air campaigns, as well as the nature and locations of Iran’s nuclear facilities.
In Operation Desert Fox, in 1998, the United States and Britain used 650 aircraft sorties and 415 cruise missile strikes, against 97 targets (11 WMD facilities, 18 command and control, 8 Republican Guard barracks, six airfields, 19 key regime sites such as Special Republican Guard barracks). They were reasonably effective. But of course we had been monitoring Iraq closely for nearly a decade by this point, on the ground and in the air, and Saddam Hussein had already abandoned his nuclear aspirations, we now know.
Or consider the Kosovo campaign of the spring of 1999. In the first month of the campaign, daily strikes averaged 5 against air defenses, 2.5 against lines of communication, and 4 against command and control (for the rest of the campaign, the respective figures were 3, 5, and nearly 7). Total sorties per day averaged 250 in the first week, and close to 500 in April. This campaign had a much different purpose, but underscored the difficulty of achieving major goals with a limited number of air strikes. Initial forecasts of a quick Milosevic capitulation, in Washington and elsewhere, were badly off.
All this suggests that a single-day air campaign against a large nuclear infrastructure would be quite unusual in the annals of modern air warfare. To be sure, the United States sometimes uses more assets than perhaps required simply because it can. But typical attacks last several days and involve hundreds of sorties. Often, those attacks that were originally expected to take just a few days take weeks, as well. Nuclear facilities, meanwhile, are typically quite large, meaning that a planeload or two of ordnance will quite often be far short of what’s required.
Recent improvements in precision strike technology and GPS guidance make it quite possible that we could successfully drop numerous munitions into the same hole, digging deeper and deeper, even in bad weather and even if dust and other debris would make laser guidance challenging. In addition, it appears likely that we have tested this methodology fairly carefully, and it appears likely the Israelis could carry it out too. Even in a single-sortie attack, successive planes reaching a target could perhaps therefore execute such a mission.
However, air defenses could be quite problematic for non-stealthy planes and perhaps even for stealthy planes, since the locations of attack can be anticipated extremely well. This challenge would place a greater premium on a larger attack force, to allow attacks against radars and command centers and SAM launchers, and argues against the single-sortie mission. Recent precedents suggest that dozens of bombs could be needed to deal with an air defense system, especially since Iran’s enrichment facilities aren’t near its borders.
In addition, bomb damage assessment could be challenging. We may be able to dig deep with bombs, but we may not know if we were successful right away. Protracted examination of the site after initial strikes might be needed to confirm if any activity continued at those locations, meaning that the need for follow-on strikes might not be immediately apparent. This is especially true at the second uranium enrichment site near Qom. Again, this would be a downside of the single-sortie option.
All that said, we need to remain cognizant of the risks of even the prolonged attack scenario as well – going well beyond the well-known risks of Iranian retaliation, even greater internal Iranian consensus on the desirability of going nuclear after the attack, and the likely weakening of international sanctions after the attack as well. There could be a third enrichment site that we fail to attack simply because we don’t know it currently exists. The Iranians may bring in a group of civilians to “inspect” the site of the first attack, making follow-on waves difficult with the use of such human shields. (This would be risky but much less dangerous than how the regime used its own young soldiers in the Iran-Iraq war.) Air defenses could be repaired and/or relocated as well, while any attack involving hundreds of sorties or more would very likely involve the loss of one or more airplanes due to Iranian defensive action or simple aircraft malfunction.
We frequently talk pseudo-scientifically about the likelihood of a one to two year delay in Iran’s program after such a strike. I believe the range is more like 6 months to 3 or 4 years, given how hard it would be to predict the damage to Qom, as well as other uncertainties such as the possible existence of other enrichment sites.
All this means that there’s greater uncertainty in the outcome of an Israeli or U.S. air campaign against Iran’s nuclear facilities than frequently appreciated, whether it is carried out quickly or over a period of days or even weeks.
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Shut-up!
You will nowhere to be found, if war started.
The Afghan war-initiated by Jewish are still killing US.
The Iran war-much initiated and convinced by many Jewish around the World, will cost US many lives and will last much longer than the Afghan war.
Imagine, in Afghan, we the US have allies within Afghan tribes. But, in Iran we the US don't have One.
Why you want Mr. O!Hanlan to shut-up? You brought good answer, since he asked One.
YOU SHUT-UP BIGOT!
Have you considered expanding your education just a bit?
The Afghan war was started by Al-Qaeda, who were based in Afghanistan, when they attacked the WTC.
And Al-Qaeda was created by the US during the Afgan/Russian war!!!!!!
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Actually the roots of this war trace back to the 1980s when we were giving them arms to fight off Soviet forces via "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" policy.
America cannot win a war and never won after WWII. Even in WWII, America was waiting antil 1944 for German and USSR killing each other to get weak. However, in 1944 Sovet army was in Poland already beating Nazis. America decided to ingage in Europe war theater as it was obvious that Soviet army could occupy entire Europe. America has incometent military and political establishment and afraids Iran.
Says the Russian.
another deluded muslim "historian" who is unaware that the US fought and won a 2 front war from 1941 to 1945 and decimated the enemy and could have won every war since if we fought without our gloves on as we certainly will against Mark's friends. keep posting crap until the hookah burns out, "mark".
Mark, you are neither a remotely knowledgeable student of history, nor more than semi-literate in the English language. Reading more and writing less would do you well.
You can try but you cant hide.
We win the wars easily enough. Its the Nation Building at the end that we can't seem to get right. But that's not our fault – we're trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Next war, I suggest skipping the Nation Building altogether. Instead, I want to see caravans of loot being carried out of any county that messes with us. The present strategy of rebuilding defeated nations if pure fail. I'm always reminded of 'The Mouse That Roared': countries start wars with us simply so that they can surrender and get new infrastructure, foreign aid money, free healthcare and have our troops die trying to keep the Peace.
you're nuts...........
yeah sure the US was watching the Russian and Germans kill each other during WW2. Haha how did that work out for both of you people??? And the winners were who now??? See the smartest countries rule the world and you just answered why this is true.
Stalin had purged his army of anybody that would be a threat to his regime.
When Nazi Germany attacked USSR, Stalin was not prepared.
The Nazi's walk right up to Moscow, and other large cities (St Petersburg)
It was the Americans and The British who supplied USSR that kept
from being overrun by The Nazi's.
No "One" country had won this war alone.
It took the Britsh, The Americans and The Russians to do it,
along with other alied nations.
If Moscow had fallen, The Germans could have sent most of thier troops
to the Western front, maybe D day would never have happened
and all of Europe would be a Nazi concentration camp.
Dont like America ?
Fine, but you owe us at least a thank you
for help saving your butt in the first place.
See WW2 Supply line, Caucus mtns/Murmansk.
Its in your history book.
To Rick:
One thing that is history that both world wars weren't are wars. we didn't want to help until we were attacked. We never had a personal war with anybody. A war for us to say as ours. The ones I know is the Mexican-American War.Revolution War. Civil war. And that's about all i know that are actually american wars that we were involved throughout the whole war.
Don't listen to the Chinese and/or Russian paid troll. The US would wipe the floor with both of them.
Havent you heard ?
There is no profit in peace.
20 million russians dead, yall were getting bent over and hitlered until help came in, without outside help russia would b e a german colony
The Quran cannot possibly be from a ‘Real True God’ to any rationally thinking person; but surely a doctrine inspired by Satan?
And any sane would say the same about the bible, all books have been corupted by man; the bible is no different!!!!
and who are you to talk about Quran? we at least believe in one God Allah, you believe in 3 (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) when you pray to your God to which one do you pray to Father, Son or Holy Spirit?
@Binzy
The Father, Son and Holy spirit are the same "God" being only one. It is kind of complicated to understand from an outside perspective. Especially from a tiny brained extremist bigot. And No.. The US will not allow Iran to launch a genocide campaign on jewish people. You will need to find some other way to find pleasure
@GISOEM
It is complicated for me to understand? you are right because it is complicated you don't have a clue either, your religion is complicated. Us muslims, we have one God Allah and there is definitely nothing complicated there. There is no 3 parts that make Allah, Allah is One.
@biz and @G
Who cares what you believe? Belief doesn't make you moral. Its how you act that counts.The Buddhists don't believe in any god but their history is far less bloody than either Christianity or Islam.
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Boycott evil JEW Pentium® processors
stop using computers cell phones and medical treatment by jewish doctors .do not have MRI another damned jewish invention.
is it not evident that roughly, more than a billion people around this world, having already experienced Islam/Allah/Muhammad, fought against it and discarded it for a good reason? Islam’s demise is not a question of ‘if’ but ‘when’, as the process of its demise started with the advent of the media, IT, etc, and got speeded up exponentially, after 9/11.
Your facts are opinions not truths, actually Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and christianity is on the decline. Less people go to church now than did 20 years ago, get the facts striaght!
Do you know why there were no Arab Characters in the original Star Trek TV Series?
Answer: Because the show was set in the future.
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You're a traitor from a race of traitors. Disloyal to the core. Rotten! Like the rest of your subhuman race.
Do u believe ur own bull ? Before people of the free world were sympathetic to ur cause but after they saw the true face of u and ur fellow bigots , they no longer believe neither have sympathy to the ludicrous ideas ! get real
hate jews just boycott jews made stuff
would include most computers, since Israel helped to develop the Intel Pentium chip, Windows MP, XP and Vista as well as Microsoft Office.
They’d have to boycott Google and cell phones developed in Israel by Motorola,
as well as voice mail and camera phones.
Thousands of products that were developed through technological innovations in Israel, in agriculture, aerospace, energy, pharmaceuticals, and bio-medicine would also be off limits. But naturally, the self-righteous boycotters and their legions of supporters aren’t interested in such banalities.
No denying that Israel and members of the Jewish culture everywhere have contributed and contribute mightily to all sorts of human progress. But please do not get us involved in another war in the Middle East.
I see nuclear Pakistan more of a threat to world peace than Iran.
So why are you using a computer idiot?
Coo Coo!! "we in the US" ?? what US is "english" referring to? the US of dearborn run from the Dearborn Islamic center and governed by CAIR from the convenience store next door? "afghan war initiated by ooooooooooo Jewish"?? one more time : Coo Coo!!
Look up who runs the banks, media and hollywood they are all of jewish decent just a coincidence huh!!!
Muslims are primitive. In primitive I mean that their religion is about 600 years more recent than Christianity. They are about where Christians were 600 years ago (Inquisitions, intolerance, etc.). Maybe in 600 years they will be where most of us Americans are.
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i doubt it
English.....I beg to differ. The American-Israeli campaign infecting Iranian nuclear facilities with the 'Stuxnet' worm could not have been achieved without the help of Spies inside Iran. The virus seriously crippled, literally ripped their centrifuges apart and will set them back at least two years!! So.....yes we do have inside help in Iran. Sometimes money will make people do anything.....what we need can many times simply be bought!
HAHA Yeah the Jews really give a crap about Afghanistan of all places. You're so ignorant it's pathetic. Yeah the jews care about a backwards, ALL MUSLIM, country not on their border with no economy and racked with war for years. hahahaha. Thats funny. Try getting an education you fool. Its people like you who are dangerous. Now go back to stoning an innocent female to make you feel better
The Jewish lobby seems to like to see American kids die for its benefit. The Palestinians should start chanting "Free America from occupation." Welcome to the United States of Gaza
There will be no "measured response" by Isreal or the US if hostilities start with Iran. We have learned from our past mistakes. Turn the desert into glass.
This is an interesting quote:
"They were reasonably effective. But of course we had been monitoring Iraq closely for nearly a decade by this point, on the ground and in the air, and Saddam Hussein had already abandoned his nuclear aspirations, we now know."
So they were "reasonably effective" against a non-existing WMD program? What kind of logic is this??
The same "logic" that got us into the mess of Iraq, and will get us into the mess that will be Iran, at least if the Israeli government has anything to say about it.
Israel's strategy has always been: drag the US military into fighting their wars, and get US taxpayers to pay for their bloated military so they can continue bullying the region.
And with Congre$$, bless their little hearts, in their back pocket, this works great.
On this one, though, they may have gone too far. And we the people (such a quaint concept) CAN stop this madness, if we can increase the cost to Israel of a preemptive military strike on Iran. This can be done nonviolently through a pledge to BOYCOTT ISRAEL IF IT ATTACKS IRAN:
http://www.divestfromwar.org
Please sign the pledge, and spread the word.
Let's PREVENT the next war, instead of merely protesting it after the fact.
The people of the Middle East thank you in advance.
The question that you don't answer, of course, is the simple one. If you allow a bully (IRAN in this case) to continue to taunt neighbors and get stronger, will you have the fight the war when THEY are ready, instead of when WE are?
Is war with an islamic regime led by crazy men inevitable? Are they a threat to the US – either because they threaten Israel, because they threaten the region, or because someday they could threaten us directly if allowed to continue?
Is it ethical to continue sanctions that hurt the Iranian people in order to do little more than slow down the regime?
Something tells me divestfromwar.org doesn't answer these questions.
I think its better to stay the course with sanctions until Iran feels the pinch which it eventually will. Unfortunate innocent Iranians would have to suffer. War should always be the last resort and it would be outrageous to rush to war until all possible alternatives to resolve the conflict is tried. Let's face it, in order for Iran to build a nuclear bomb, they would have to test it and if the do, then the world community would unite and call for military intervention. There is still enough time to give peace a chance.
War with an Islamic regime?? You mean the same war that's been going on for more than 1000 years? It's about time we got tired of it and told them they they must reform or be destroyed.
Why do people like yourself believe that america is innocent, america has been a bully for decades threaten everyone with its military power if they don't do as we say. Answer this: How can we have them and they can't? Aren't we the only nation to ever use it?
We have been doing sanctios for years. I wonder, Blah, when you think the time would be right. Perhaps when a nuclear weapon detonates in the US or its ally then it might be appropriate? We probably should have waited longer to attack Afghanistan, maybe more buildings should have blown up?
It makes no sense for anyone to attack Iran until absolutely necessary. The only thing they should be doing at this point is planning and preparing in case it becomes necessary. No one wants to shut off the oil flow from the gulf as the entire world is dependent on it as are their economies.
It would be much better for the world if the sanctions would work, the people of Iran throw out their government and bring in a new one that stops pursuing a nuclear program in exchange for a removal of sanctions. then they could start selling oil and make money!
Divest from war . . . This may seem strange to you, but Israel is an allie of the United States- and a good one at that. Israel has served American needs in the middle east since its inception. Israel has always been an active arm of US foreign policy and has allowed the US to insure its interests in that region. Please don't feed anyone the b.s. line of "Israel being a bully in the region. " Israel is no more a bully than any other country, and in act less so. Israel has the right to self defense and that is exactly what it does on a daily basis. It just so happens that Israel has been surrounded by enemies looking to create its destruction.
In the world right now, there is no more dangerous or rogue regime than Iran. The world is currently held hostage by the psychopaths in north korea and we allowed that to happen when we looked the other way on their nuclear journey. We cannot let history repeat itself here. We have tried going the road of the UN and negotiations. You can only negotiate for so long before action is required. War is never ideal and should always be averted whenever neccessary. Unfortunately, it does not seem like we will be able to do that here. TO TAKE NO ACTION WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE AND DETRIMENTAL TO BOH THE US AND IT'S FUTURE! THIS IS NOT THE COLD WAR W
HERE TWO NUCLEAR POWERS KEPT EAH OTHER IN CHECK. A NUCLEAR IRAN IS A TERRORIST STATE W
ITH THE NUCLEAR BOMB. GOD HELP US IF WE
ALLLOW THIS TO OCCUR?
Yes, Israel has been our ally for some time now but Israel need to do more to promote peace in the Middle East. First of all, the Israeli government need to stop building new settlements on dispute land and secondly, Israel needs to have open dialogue with those in Palestine that they consider their enemy, even if that enemy is Hamas. let's open dialogue and hear what Hamas has to say about resolving this conflict. I believe the world is very curious to hear both sides in a neutral place. I also believe the world will want to hear from Hamas if it will recognize Israel's right to exist. If they say yes, then that would be the first real progress in 35 years. I'm calling on the Israeli government to take the fisrt iniatiative and schedule a meeting with Hamas. The world will be listening and watching.
Paul, I respectfully beg to differ. Good allies do not wage war because big brother is near. Face it Israel was created for what purpose? To act as an arm of the American Military. Even with the Zionist advance military, could they have not wiped out Hezbollah in that awful display of a war. Death to the Zionist and their supporters. American is in the decline as Europe is also, the meek shall friggin inherit the Earth. Time is coming to an end. The bible said an evil force will occupy present day Isreal and will start wars upon wars. Wow, I wonder who is that.
hey my fellow brain washed American. How was Israel created? By violence killing innocent kids and women by ethnic cleansing and pushing people out just to create a territory for a state in somebody else's land. They can have the best technology ever, and most money but israelis will never live in peace. Never because you cant win peace when you killed others and took their land. Paul this is like I invade your apartment occupy one of your rooms by force and in 10 years or so I say hey man lets make peace. But I occupied your apartment right? so will you really make peace with me ever?
as a U.S marine i will fight for our allies where ever whenever , I dont need civilians who sit on the couch and contribute nothing telling me what we should be doing. Israel is our ally and always have been , as for Iran who burns our flags and calls for the death of our GREAT country i say ooohhhhraaaaaa!!!! I stand with you Israel!!!
Your anti-Israel conspiracy theories reveal you not to be anti-war, which is legitimate and respectable, but probably some anti-semitic bigot obsessed about anything related to Jews.
We never had conflict in the Middle East until the formation of Israel, how has Israel help the country mentally phyiscally emotionlly and finacially, they are a burden to the US tax payer when send them billions of dollars a year for what, we don't get anything in return!!!!
Drizzy7139
We never had conflict in the Middle East until the formation of Israel.
Americans faught with British WW1 and WW2, north Africa/Egypt,
This was before Israel was born, idiot.
@Driz, we get huge payback from our "investment" in Israel in science, technology, medicine, and agriculture, for a start, not to mention a tremendous source of military intelligence in a critical but highly unstable part of the world.
drizzy, its bc of the religious inolerance of muslim extremists, thats why thuisands have died, what about the 6 million jews that died before that? probly dont acknowledge that.. what about how turkey killled thousands of jews bc of their own religious intolerance? most people dont know that one, but maybe you do. look it up on a site that isnt controlled by your own govt. and youll see the truth. maybe read a book, or watch the clip on 60 minutes where they had a whle episode dedicated to it, wouldnt you fight someone for your holy land? yes. just as they had? so they could have their own sovereign nation? i believe so. dont be mad that they have it, you dont, bc they ddeserve it if they have it and got it from your people. i guess they wanted it more.
Drizzy7139
"We never had conflict in the Middle East until the formation of Israel"
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You forgot to mention Hitler a hundred times ... then sing a few bars of soap about Auschwitz ... you people are like a broken record.
There should be no war in Iran. G.W. lost our credibility, but imagine further if we did go, and Iran had already abandoned their nuclear ambitions as well. Saddam never said he gave up because he did not want to appear weak, what if that is happening again? However, you have your answer to your first question. The list included targets (Republican Guard Bunkers, SAM sites, Radar installations) that were hit by guided weapon systems.
you stupd fukkkk are you going to boycott
evil JEW Pentium® processors and your cell nope, why dont you boycott your computer you muslim dog
gotta love these islamic posters who make up "facts" in their posts like Israel has dragged the US into their wars??? which war is that? 1948? 1967? 1973? The gulf war when saddam attacked Kuwait? which wars is this poster referring to? or maybe he/she doesnt know of any but is just repeating the palestinian big lie.
I guess the whiter you are the more truthfull huh! The fact is that banks make money off of war and who runs the banks jews! All of our enemies in this region were once our allies.
Peace through superior firepower. People have tried the other ways, and they don't work very well.
Eric, you're right on the money.............
I'm afraid that the Washington warmongers already have this obnxious war with Iran planned. Let's just hope that either Russia or China steps up to the plate and averts it or otherwise there will be untold gigatic suffering and needless deaths all because some jokers in Washington D.C. want to fatten up their bank accounts!
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The invasion of iraq took ten years to be developed, (words by genearl Shinseki) and then Rumsfiled dismissed all their work, and thus the falure in Iraq, The invasion of Iran is already completed, we just need another 1di0t like rumsfield to screw it..
Why does this article feature a picture of a scowling Ahmadinejad? Hasn't he been rendered virtually powerless within the last year or so?
Also, if we do strike and delay them for 6 months to 3-4 years, what happens when they rebuild? Are we just going to keep bombing them every so often, indefinitely? I'm reading the Powell Doctrine right now, going down the list, and I guess I'm just wondering what the endgame is. If we start down this path, how's it going to end?
the bunker busters will eliminate the threat and if they try to rebuild, we will be able to test our new bunker busters. It looks like its up to Iran to avoid the inevitable destruction they appear to seek
It will end when Iran stops enriching Uranium. We have offered to supply them with pre-enriched fuel for reactors and free medical isotopes but they won't accept it. Why? Because they don't really WANT fuel or medical isotopes – they WANT a bomb!
That is a very good question, and the answer is simple: A country with damaged infrastructure needs time to repair that infrastructure, and Iran is relatively modern and dependent on electricity. They could just damage their nuclear program, but if they still have their facilities intact it won't take that long to rebuild. But if you take out some power plants and Railways and Highways and communications facilities, Iran would need years to recover and the destruction would likely cause a regime change.
Iran's nuclear program doesn't pose much of a threat. It's the unpredictability of its leaders that worries many. The Iranian people themselves are proud of going nuclear and pursue peaceful purposes. Israel and the US have to find a diplomatic solution to deal with Iran. Military actions wouldn't do.
Pakistan nukes are way more dangerous
Bob Pitt
Pakistan nukes are way more dangerous
They are only built to hit India.
Military actions will only make matters worse. The Iranian people do not engage in terrorism and even its government only finances proxies who then choose to carry out terrorist attacks. A military attack on Iran would most likely push these people over their ethical boundaries and force them to use unconvetional methods against an enemy that is far more superior in terms of firepower. THIS is how terrorism comes to be. What you see here, is terrorism in the making and it has happened before in basically EVERY country the US has invaded in these past 6 decades. You invade their countries, you easily defeat their militaries and then you complain about how they use terrorism to further their goals. If Iran gets attacked, I encourage Americans to stay away from the new twin towers because it is BOUND to happen again.
Muslims ethical = oxymoron!
you = dumbàss!
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If you added up all the crimes committed by Jews and Muslim in the US, and you compared them ... Jews would have far more crimes than Muslims (even if you factor in 9/11). The fleecing of America by Jews is no longer a secret.
Which is why any attack should also target the domestic intelligence services of Iran that are used to suppress the Persian people.
No Persian people – No Palestinians = just muzzies
Paul, you don't really get it... Even without a military and without leadership, Iranians will not sugger foreigners to just wals in and dictate our politics and "bring us democracy". The IR will be dealt with by the hands of the Iranian people, we don't need others to do it for us. We may have troubles among ourselves, but we have always been united against a common enemy. Saddam learned this the hard way, don't make us lecture the Americans, because we will. No matter what the cost.
suffer*
oh, please continue lecturing as your foot looks quite good in your mouth.
Sorry Brother,
But the Iranian people actually tried that a few years back... We (the U.S. and the rest of the world) sat back and hoped that change would come of the people's actions and clamor for reform. The Revolutionary Guard and other Iranian paramilitary forces brutally suppressed the protests, keeping any would-be activists silent, for fear of another reprisal. The only way to get the Iranians out is to impoverish and weaken their government to the point that they can no longer control the Iranian people. Only then will democratic changes come.
Dan M.
It's not about killing or taking out those that oppress us. Dont you see? Iranians don't want any blood to be shed. They want to do this peacefully and on their own pace, not on US terms. If they wanted, they could have had a revolution back in 2009, but would that have solved anything? No. We have no leaders and even no goals, so the best thing for now is gradual change, not sudden and bloody revolution. We are sick of Western countries telling us to throw our lives away so that Western countries can benefit from it.
Dear Shahin,
Americas enemy are within, This great nation in poised for destruction. While Mexicans are practically taken over this corrupt nation, economy in total caos, the dum children of united snakes are planning their futher demise by attacking more countires such as syria etc oblivion to fact that china and russia are exhausting us into a total breakup and collapse. The days are numberd for dum children of united snakes to be taken over by mexicans chinese russians. God bless America.
I have Persian friends (admittedly in the US) that *hate* the mullahs that have ruined their country. They say they are hesitant, but perfectly willing to "pull the trigger" themselves on an American attack if it will help Iran get a new govt.
Iranian people dont engage in terrorism?? right, what is blowing up the US marine barracks in Lebanon!! training, arming and funding Hezbollah, providing rockets to Hamas, attacking a jewish community center in argentina? how about threatening to eradicate israel from the pages of history and returning the land to Islam? not a form of terrorism? ah, Shahin thinks we are all fools.
Yes Fred, I do think you're a fool. You might want to reread my comments before posting off-topic bullcrap. Hezbolllah is a proxy that Iran uses to fight Western influence in the Middle-East. Members of hizbullah outside Iran are not Iranians but Palestinian (among others) arabs. Yes Iran supports this organization but it does not mean that Iran gives them the order to suddenly blow up 300 people. THe US has also supported COUNTLESS terrorist organizations, more than Iran could ever dream of. In fact, YOU were the creators of AL Qaeda and the Taliban, so don't come here branding us as terrorists while your hands are in deeper sh !t than ours.
Hezbolllah is a proxy that Iran uses to fight Western influence in the Middle-East...
Hezzbollahs only purpose is the destruction of Israel.
Moron.
shahin, we did not create al qaeda and the taliban, granted, we weaponized and trained the mujaheddin, who were later formed into al qaeda, but not by the US, but by bin laden, all because of his own personal vendetta with the US bc of the 1st gulf war, bc he was a saudi prince and instead of kuwait going to his country, they went to the americans for help. bc he wasnt able to capitalize on the war, he was angry! and about the formation, he basically brainwashed his recruits after there was no cause for the mujaheddin and told them that all of the middle easts problems were bc of the US. all this came to a climax when he ordered the terrorist attacks during 9/11. so, if YOU have read this, now YOU know the actual truth. instead of preach and insult by falsifying or twisting something up, tell the whole story.
So, financing and arming terrorism is not terrorism?
hmmmmm.... isn't that kinda like hiringlpaying a hit man to do your dirty work? what's the difference?
Terrorists can only function if you can't find them and hit them back. Iran can't become a terrorist state without becoming utterly destroyed. The rest of the world does not want to attack Iran, including Israel. They would love for the Iranian people to take better control over their politicians so you have the time to develop your country the at your own pace. It's only the nuclear threat that makes war a possibility. You should understand that if it's a choice between a few Shia terrorists and a county with nuclear weapons and missiles, we'd rather face terrorists.
The GOP solution: Start a war with Iran (totally unfunded of course). Then get the poor people to fight/die in the war while giving the rich people "no bid contracts". Thus killing two GOP birds with one stone. Then use Iran's oil to pay for the war. And when the war is over, Iran will sell us cheap oil!! Just like in Iraq!!!!! Oh wait.....never mind.
The stress these outlandish beliefs have on you will only benefit the GOP. It's clear you are rabidly partisan, believing that those who don't agree with you have no empathy and are willing to kill people to satiate their greed.
However, the stress and angst that is yours will not only shorten your life and weaken your body but probably also affect your sp erm thereby reducing the chances of your ability to procreate. GOP members, however, knowing how crazy people like you are, will sleep fine and live long with large families. Thus ensuring their victory over your idealogy.
What he is saying is not far from the truth. When Iraq war started, government insiders and lobbyists were fast to start companies that took advantage of the war. Example: Diligence, LLC created by Carlyle Group founders, Barbour Griffith Rogers lobbying firm. Its board members are ex-high positioned government officers
http://femvestor.blogspot.com/2012/01/glimpse-into-companies-social-network.html
And lets not forget New Bridge Strategy, a defunct company,
http://web.archive.org/web/20040605092346/http://newbridgestrategy.com/
Whose purpose as stated in the website:
New Bridge Strategies, LLC is a unique company that was created specifically with the aim of assisting clients to evaluate and take advantage of business opportunities in the Middle East following the conclusion of the U.S.-led war in Iraq. Its activities will seek to expedite the creation of free and fair markets and new economic growth in Iraq, consistent with the policies of the United States Government. The opportunities evolving in Iraq today are of such an unprecedented nature and scope that companies seeking to work in that environment must have the very best advice and guidance available. The New Bridge Strategies team has been carefully constructed to fill that need.
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The truth hurts don't it.
GOPisGreedOverPeople
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Then use Iran's oil to pay for the war.
Thats the only part you got wrong.
American and British oil companies get the oil
and sell it at a profit, and get richer.
Taxpayers get stuck with the bill for the wars.
Nice setup isnt it ?
What part of sarcasm don't you get? Hahahahahahahahahahaha
The author notes examples of American air attacks but neglects to mention the two 100% successful Israeli single sortie attacks against Iraq and Syria. Both stopped nuclear programs cold and prevented dictators from acquiring the most dangerous weapons in the world. Saddam would likely be sitting in Kuwait and possibly Saudi Arabia right now if he had the nukes that ISRAEL saved the world from him having acquired. How would Assad's regime be affected right now if it had nukes. At a minimum, how much more dangerous would the civil unrest be if we had to worry about loose Jihadists acquiring them? Thank you Israel for stopping these scenarios in the past. Also, for all the morons who say that Israel guided America into Iraq and Afghanistan – you should actually look at historical records. The Israelis were not concerned about Saddam during either the first or second Gulf Wars. Those were Bush family feuds. All Israel got out of the first Gulf War was missiles raining down on its cities – and the second Gulf War brought a stronger Iran. Israel has been laser focused on Iran (and its proxies, Hizbollah and Hamas( for the last two decades – primarily because Iran has been sponsoring people who go and try to kill Israelis (and Americans). Iran and our dear friends in Saudi Arabia have been the main funders and sponsors of global jihadist terrorism and instability over the past forty years. This is factually accurate and needs to be processed by smart Americans in a manner that is not sensitive to their political prejudices or other personal opinions or prejudices.
Thank you for being one of the few to stick up for my nation. People here are so stupid when it comes to these things, no one knows what they are talking about. I truly hope there are many more people like you.
First gulf war.
When Saddam started tossing scud missiles at Israel,
George H Bush was scared of his coalition falling apart
he talked Israel "OUT" of retaliating by giving Israel
Patriot Missles, rocket launchers and trained crews.
Bush was affraid that if Israel got involved, the war may have ended
sooner, but would have been a disaster for all involved.
By the way, for anybody complaining about the Existence of Israel,
Kuwai had been a part of Mesopotamia/Iraq for thousands of years.
The British carved up the area and made Kuwait a nation/state because
thats where all the oil ships from.
How come nobody complains about that ?
Rich Arab sheiks....
No Jews ?
The only Israelis that are focussed on Iran are the Prime Minister Natanyahu and Defence Minister Ehud. Military and intelligence leaders are warning against such an action. We are at the same place wher we were 10 years ago when Natanyahu was the Prime Minister. He is obssessed with Iran the same way Bush was preparing to attack Iraq since the day he took office notwithstanding 9/11. Afghanistan was a detour to Iraq.
Wars are easy to start but the outcome is never predictable. Wars are the main objective of the military/industrial complex. We are prepared to take away the safety net of our citizens in order to keep feeding the so called defence.
But the war threats by Israel and their proxies in the US are there to influence our elections.
No articles ever mention things like the extreme a nd permanent terrorism the U.S. and Israel would be facing at home and abroad after such a strike. No articles ever mention how such an attack is actually illegal, and how there would be repercutions with the rest of the world, possibly militarily. Or how other countries such as Russia or China may even assist Iran to defend herself from such an illegal attack.
hinduism, terrorism is the way of hindu terrorist Jew's, secular s by their faith, not based on truth but on their hindu soul, filthy desire to make humanity their gentile, slave, they deserve nothing less of their own medicine, hinduism, terrorism.
how about the certainties of peace.
how about the zionized u.s. shut its damned mouth.
how about muslims who create most of the global problems shut its damned mouth.
You mean you didn`t know Ahmapiguejad is a mossad agent?
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do you hate jews just boycott
would include most computers, since Israel helped to develop the Intel Pentium chip, Windows MP, XP and Vista as well as Microsoft Office.
They’d have to boycott Google and cell phones developed in Israel by Motorola,
as well as voice mail and camera phones.
Thousands of products that were developed through technological innovations in Israel, in agriculture, aerospace, energy, pharmaceuticals, and bio-medicine would also be off limits. But naturally, the self-righteous boycotters and their legions of supporters aren’t interested in such banalities.
how about muslim nations like iranian leaders stop threatening an established nation? how about iranians leave their nation so they can get an unbiased education instead of living in a place where its leaders dont acknowledge the existence of the holocaust and the atrocities commited in the 40s by the nazis? why would you listen to an arrogant bigot go on and on about how another country full of children and families needs to be eradicated? i guess what youre saying is you wouldnt defend yourself if a nation was threatening your nation? and that same nation is being suspected of researching nuclear weaponry? considering the onlly thing israelis have done in this situation is discuss whether or not to strike a nation that continues to threaten its existence? unlike your country, i think israel has freedom of speech. read some of the headlines by all reporters, nt just a cleary left wing or right wing news stations. i would also say avoid articles where the writers are controlled by the govt..
wow, posted in wrong spot..
it's okay; Message recieved, Message Verified. good argument for sure. and THAT, is a unbiased opinion. That's how we're seeing it in Canada. The only one's whom I find disagree are usually racist.
Israels leaders know what their doing. If they start a war and Obama wants to be re elected, he has to jump in. If he does not Romney will be elected. Election are in November but a new president does not take office till January. Israel can defend them self for a month or so. Chrystal ball says that a war will not start until November but only if they have guaranty from Romney or green light. My feeling is Obama would rather lose his presidency than go to war. That little nation has us by you know what.
No, the American population supports Israel by a large majority. It is WE who have Obama by the you-know-what, not Israel.
You're absoutly right Bill. We (USA) would be at war already is this wasn't an election year.
I don't necessarily agree that Obama would be willing to lose his presidency than go to war, but whoever is president this next term will have his hands full. I think Israel would rather have Romney as president than Obama and if possible might time their attack in a way that might help Romney's chances of being elected. An Israeli- Iranian war will, to the best of anyone's efforts, end up dragging America into it, Iran will try to close the straits of hormuz. There is no way that this coming war could end quickly if maintained conventional, which I hope it will be. Once the war starts Iran will unleash its dogs of terror on Israel and the United States and the attacks will not only be in the US and Israel but also anywhere in the world an opportunity exists to attack. For Iran the greater and bloodier these attacks the better for them, they will want to show that even thought you can attack Iran and cause damage they have a capability to strike back and make it hurt. The world needs
to be ready if this war comes, it will not pleasant.
Ron if the Iranians unleash terroist attacks on American soil and kill innocent civilians, we will bomb Terhan and Iran's 3 largest cities to rubble. Without nuclear weapons. They would have nothing left. It would be terrible. Let's hope it never comes to that.
Have you ever heard of Operation: Linebacker and Linebacker II? Those were strategic bombing campaigns during the Vietnam War. Although they were not allowed to bomb cities, the Air Force dropped more bombs in those two operations than the entirety of WWII and Korea. As said above, if Iran tries to use terror against us, we will see a surge of patriotism not unlike the one that directly followed 9/11. Iran would become a footnote in history.
Let’s ask china to fund another war for U.S., that’s what Americans are good for “begging for money and finance their useless wars!”
Israel is a tiny country with history of killing thousands of Palestinians, now they want to extend their wars to the whole region with help of US!
They only kill Palestinians that attack them first.
You are a nut job.
OLD SAYING: "A Jew screams in pain after he stabs you in the back."
... look it up
Here's a old saying. "Take a hike" It's blatently clear you're a racist.
My Grandfather kicked your butt on Normandy beach, and I'll do it this time so my forefathers did not die in vain.
must we repeat the worst attrocity of mankind a second time? can we not learn?
The problem with wars is that no one can predict what will happen. The author is right. I think that Iranians have the bomb ( they are not stupid) easily gotten from North Korea.If Israel becomes too arrogant they just may sign their own death warrant. What people seem to overlook is that China and Russia would benefit greatly by Israel's destruction , oil flow interruption which would knock the US right out of the imperial game. Looks like a good scenario for a nuclear war that will kill millions.All the warmongering and the proxy war in Syria is leading in that direction. Are our leaders sane ? Personally, I think they lost touch with reality.Soon ,the financial bust will elevate the stakes. Scary.
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What people seem to overlook is that China and Russia would benefit greatly by Israel's destruction , oil flow interruption which would knock the US right out of the imperial game........
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And oil flow interuption would have no affect on China or Russia ?
Oil flow interuption would cause a global financial meltdown.
Knock the US out of the Imperial game ?
How so ?
The military will still be there.
The US has a large stockpile of oil reserves to keep the military running.
FAIL.
And my country has a vast oil supply, enough to keep our armada going and even enough to make our continent totally independant from oil supply routes of the mid-east. We're just looking for buyers...
Everything in writing always looks practical including the responses, but the actuality of war is in the faces of the dead, looking back.
hindu Jew's, criminal secular s enemies of truth absolute will lead their hindu terrorist gentile, slaves to destruction, have no doubt hindism, criminality of hind cursed of truth absolute will be reason for demise of USA and Europe by truthful of Islam.
I belive war with Iran is inevitable. I support an international attack on Iran and will be the 1st to volunteer to fight if we are in an all-out war with Iran. (While we're at it, lets take Al Assad out too)
My thoughts are with the citizens of Iran if we go to war.
Your thoughts are with the citizens of Iran if war.... just who do you think we'll be fighting there in ten years ???
Jimmy Le = khalid bin Mohammad
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I could care less about the people of iran; they've made their bed, now lay in it..............
perhaps he was talking about the Women who are already visciously persecuted by the society of Iran. ?
in that case, yea, I feel kind of bad that they'll eat a bomb by accident. all I can hear in the background is " Runnnn tooo the hilllllsss, runnnn forrr youur LIIIiiiiiivesssss."
If they really want war with Iran I suggest all politician's sons and daughters be the first boots on the ground BEFORE they send our kids.
Secondly,why in the world would we even consider going to war with Iran since the mideast has nothing we need or want.
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I know many people of Iran. They are not the ones shouting "death to america". Once again it is the religious bumble-heads that are so f"in sure of themselves. It seems to almost always be that those that buy into the fairy tales are the ones that want to push for war. Seems strange (yet seems unavoidable).
All Moslems hate all Infidels.
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Dude, stop with the laughter. You look like an idiot.
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War war war, Why US blindly follows the Israel policy. Why you guys scare that Iran has atom bomb. Israel is already unannounced atomic power. All world already know this. I request Obama stop killing only Muslim country people. When the people of this country fight back for their defense, then you name them terrorist. What a good policy.
A hungry hindu filthy dog never learns his lesson, but ready to take chances to please his hindu soul desire, hindu Jew's, criminal Jew's and their hindu gentile's, terrorist slave Christians are no different, they have not learned their lesson in Afghanistan, truthful of Afghanistan have their butts on the run with nothing but rifles and IED's, imagine if they mess with Iran. A hindu filthy dog never learn his lesson until he is put to death, hindu Jew's, criminal secular s denier of truth absolute and their hindu gentile, filthy slave will end up no different than a hindu filthy dog by truthful of Islam.
First, US does not "blindly follow" Israel policy. If we did, the US would have bombed Iran years ago. Second, Muslims kill far more of their fellow Muslims than the US ever has.
The real question is how do we provoke Iran to strike first. I hope that my relatives in Jerusalem can figure that one out. Should Israel strike first the world would condemn them and make us Jews out as the bad guys. Israel needs to support the sanctions and find a way to make Iran and maybe with the situation in Syria and with Hezbolah will force an attack on Israel which will give Israel cause to bomb Iran and Syria. Technically Israel and Syria are still at war as no peace treaty has ever been signed and a cease-fire is all that is in place at this time. Israel will loose in the court of public opion should they attack first.
It seems like there is some truth in that Statement, that the world ends on December 21st as we know it...
i have a strange Feeling...
At least for people got caught in the middle....
The big question that the author fails to ask is what happens if nothing is done about Irans nuclear program?
Don't even think about it.
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All these wars for Russian and European Jews to occupy the middle east. Think America cause it's your support, your money and your lives.
You are ridiculous. Israel is hardly "occupying the Middle East". Israel is less than 1% of the ME. Also, the majority of Jews in Israel are Middle Eastern, not European or Russian, but even if they were, so what? Should the world be divided up according to color?
They want a nuke? Give them one, 10 megaton, and do the world a favor. It's time to stop screwing around
Oh yeah, there is uncertainty there, kinda like the bs foisted on the duduheads who bought the Iragi mobile WMD labs.
But, maybe "they" (alqueda?) drove em into Iran?! Fact is, Iran couldn't go 5 mins against us, netanyahoo is full of the same (rabid,foaming at the mouth) BS, even his own party sees that, and his talk is proof that it's all talk and no bite. I say GIVE EM a nuke, (maybe one isreal DOESN'T have), and maybe "We" might have something to really fear!
biggest threat to USA is Islam ,
Jew hatred in Islam is an essential foundation to the Islamic belief system that Muslims cannot seem to be able to rid themselves of. Jew-hatred masks an existential problem in Islam. Islam is terrified of the Jews, and the number-one enemy of Islam is the truth, which must be constantly covered at any cost. It does not matter how many Muslim men, women, and children die in the process of saving Islam’s reputation
muslims in america cannot be trusted ..do not employ muslims , there will be another 9/11 type attack by muslims on the USA again.. do not wait round them up and put them in ww2 style camps , Islam is vile
did you know that islam stems from the jewish faith? just like Christianity. i know its a stretch for ya, but its true. without those "jewish dogs" you talk about, you wouldnt be a muslim. they probably dont teach ya that in your country do they?..
damm.. that one was for hindufilthyracism.. but for you, as an american, you should know better, that was a disgraceful moment in american history, a racist moment in itself which america had apolgized for, and to see you say that is pitiful. not all of them do wrong.
Not exactly...Christianity was originally started by Jews for Jews. It grew organically from Judaism and was based largely on the "modern" Jewish teachings of that era. Islam was started by a pagan who spent time with Jews but turned on them when they wouldn't follow him as a Messiah. Islam takes parts from many other religions, including Judaism, but claims true Judaism and Christianity are really early Islam.
federal judge this morning sentenced Pfc. Naser Jason Abdo to two consecutive life sentences, plus 60 years in prison for plotting to bomb and shoot Fort Hood soldiers in 2011.
Abdo, who represented himself at the sentencing hearing after dismissing his court-appointed lawyers last month, told U.S. District Judge Walter Smith that he remains committed to “jihad,” an Arabic word meaning struggle, that in some Islamic contexts can mean holy war.
Abdo S/B killed like OBL!
Solid like a rock, resolve of truthful and death of sentence for hindu jew filthy secular and his hindu Judaism, filthy secularism. A lion in freedom and a lion in a cage, Way of truthful in obedience to truth absolute. SALUTE,
Update: There is still zero evidence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program.
ooooooooooo "zero evidence"?? not in the eyes of the IAEA, the US, the EU, the rest of the Gulf states besides Syria, but aside from these folks and "JLS..." there is " zero evidence"................. sure.
despite us knowing theyre elevating their plutonium to near weaponized levels? not too far off, and im sure theyll get it there, and once they know how to get it there, willll it be too late, that is, if they haent gotten it yet
The Quran demands Muslims to kill non-Muslims “wherever you find them”. “Smite non-Muslims’ neck and fingers before killing them” (just for being non-believers of Islam, irrespective of race, language, creed, colour, and weather man, woman or child), “deceive and plot against non-Muslims”, “slay infidels (kill non-Muslims)”, “do not take orders from non-Muslims”,
“Muslims are not to be friends of non-Muslims”; the list is long and could be found in the Article, “Is Islam Practical?”
The Quran cannot possibly be from a ‘Real True God’ to any rationally thinking person; but surely a doctrine inspired by Satan?
hate jews just boycott
would include most computers, since Israel helped to develop the Intel Pentium chip, Windows MP, XP and Vista as well as Microsoft Office.
They’d have to boycott Google and cell phones developed in Israel by Motorola,
as well as voice mail and camera phones.
Thousands of products that were developed through technological innovations in Israel, in agriculture, aerospace, energy, pharmaceuticals, and bio-medicine would also be off limits. But naturally, the self-righteous boycotters and their legions of supporters aren’t interested in such banalities.
Word Mohammad or Muhammad means nothing else but spirit of truth, translated and quoted in book of hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism called Bible and hindu's ,pagan's of hindered land india as Mohammad,i plagiarized from Hebrew teachings. Mayhem, means Karma, will of truth absolute or spirit of truth absolute, Letter D donates word, "The" in hindu corrupted language Sanskrit in beginning of a sentence and on end in Latin, Arabic or Hebrew language. Every hindu, pagan follower of hindu Christian, pagan savior ism believes in it by faith but denies Mohammad pbh in his hindu soul, filthy desire.
It is interesting to see hindu christian, pagan Mithriac by faith to disapprove of Mohammad and lay on him, their hinduism absurdity for marrying a young girl. He married her after she reached puberty, as he was commanded for a reason to give law's for female protection, non existent at time. But they forget, hindu filthy Enoch hindu's ignorant by faith prayed to as their RAM, deity of hindu pagan origin was married to his sister to keep hinduism racism intact, or their other hindu sanatans, filthy shaman man god such as Plato, Pythagoras and Aristotle along with King James author of King James bible were young boys abusers by faith and followed by hindu's pagans of hindered gutter land india along with hindu priest of hindu pagan Catholicism, as a some thing of holy nature. read your hindu filthy history hindu's pagans of hindered land swamp of filth india and hindu Christians, pagans of hindu filthy Mithra ism, savior ism before spewing your hinduism absurdity against Mohammad.
Have no doubt hindu's, denires of truth absolute, TRUTH ABSOLUTE WILL RULE WHOLE WORLD TO HAVE PEACE, ISLAM AMONG HUMANITY BY ELIMINATION OF hINDUISM, DENIAL OF TRUTH ABSOLUTE AND hINDU'S DENIERS OF TRUTH ABSOLUTE.
hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.
Put you down like a rabid dog!
wish of a hindu rabid dog, hindu rabid dog will be dead from his hinduism sickness before he can hind, infect any one, time of death of hindu, filthy dog is very near with his hindu Judaism, filthy self center ism, secularism.
God will never allow Israel to be destroyed.
Not the God that threw em outta "their" own country?!
Is it ironic that cnn (in partnership with time) is STILL using the name and image of Fareed Zacharia at the top of this page
AFTER they fired him for plagarism? Naaaa................
hindu terrorist Jew's, self centered, secular s are not Israelite, but hindu's pagans of Egypt pretending to be Israelite, They have nothing to do with Hebrew's of Israel but every thing with hindu racist , Nazis, blood brother's of German Nazi's, having no roots in truth absolute but in hinduism, corruption of truth absolute by their hindu sanatans, filthy shamans, cause of Mayhem on earth and destructible as any hindu criminal on earth.
you most likely think they would cast a spell on you.. whats wrong with all of you bigoted knuckle draggers?
chill out, smoke a joint.. maybe look at some anatomical diagrams and youll see were all the same. i dont know where you live or how you were raised, but wow, its kinda shocking that you would talk like this about your fellow man. shame on you.
INDIA: On a Goat and a Stick:
The problem with India is that is built on a system of cultural and societal values based on Hinduism which is a cult. Nations built on a cult seldom survive in the long run. You can only take it so far based on symbolisms of a goat and a stick with a skinny little man aka gandhi banging boys at night and spinning wheels during daytime.
Iran on the other hand has a rich culture and a legacy that will make India look like dark ages.
Sadly Gandhi
Among the various charges disclosed in the book: Gandhi not only slept with young women under the age of 18, but also engaged in banging young boys two at a time.
HINDUISM: LINGAM & YONI
Lingam and Yoni are the male and female s@xual organs respectively. Hindus are allowed to worship anything – including s@xual organs. It is not unknown for them to name their children Shiva Lingam (God Shiva's s@xual organ) or Rama Lingam (God Rama's s@xual organ). (In some places in Karnataka, the gods demand both male and females to pray naked together.)
The idea of a pre-emptive strike against a peaceful nation such as Iran is absurd. They have done absolutely NOTHING to warrant all this war discussion. Are we as Americans so stupid that we do not remember the lies about WMD and the lies about 9/11 that got U.S. involved in the Desert Storm conflict. The reason we attacked Iraq was NON-EXISTANT!!! It was a phoney war that netted an oil pipeline from oil-rich Iraq to oil-poor Israel. That is what our American sons and daughters died for! And some of you want to do this all over again against Iran??? Suit up, suit your families up and volunteer for the first strike wave!
You do realize that this is Iran we're talking about, right? The same Iran that's promised death to all Jews since 1979. The same Iran that refuses to talk about where they are going with their nuclear plans. The same Iran that continues to finance, train, and supply terrorist organizations all across the world. Iran is not some innocent country, its leaders are evil, evil men. And they must be stopped. I would prefer to avoid a war, but if one must come, I overwhelmingly support a policy of extreme overkill. If we go to war, the U.S. military should use every non-nuclear/radiological/biological/chemical weapon we have, and make sure there is no possibility of a counter-attack.
Just my two cents.
Dan M.
Please don't talk about stuff you have no knowledge of. Iran "promised death to all jews"? LOL, when? Did FOX news tell you that? Seriously, I'm curious.
Iran has the largest jewish population in the entire Middle-East, apart from Israel. 20,000 jews call Iran their home and they live in complete peace and tranquility. Khomeini himself issued a fatwa that prohibited muslims from harming jews and called them a holy people that needed to be protected.
So cut the bullsh !t.
Shahin is blind, deaf and dumb
"Israel's existence is an "insult to all humanity," Iran's president said Friday in one of his sharpest attacks yet against the Jewish state, as Israel openly debates whether to attack Iran over its nuclear program."
"Today, confronting the existence of the fabricated Zionist regime is in fact protecting the rights and dignity of all human beings," said Ahmadinejad, with a black and white scarf many Palestinians wear around his neck.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/iran-israels-existence-insult-humanity
Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:
“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians – they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.
http://www.imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm
edgar i completely agree. shahin, you are an idiot. did you even read the above article? did you watch the video? lol, you are a knuckledragging chest banging ape of a human, and i dont know how you learned to operate a so-called "jewish" computer. skip over a couple articles, and you can watch and read them both.
One would have to be blind not to see that Israel is behind this type of war drum rolling. None of us were born yesterday. It is time for us to face the possibility that Israeli spies may have infiltrated our government from top to bottom. Until we face this very real possibility, we are sitting ducks. The great majority of these spies are Ivy League educated and easily blend in. They look like us. They dress like us. They talk like us. It would be an easy feat for them to gather information (a/k/a/ “dirt”) on high ranking officials and other key people and then use that information to control them – for the interests of Israel and against the interests of American citizens. If anyone, especially anyone in the media, dares to examine this danger, they are immediately muzzled, labeled “anti-semite” and professionally neutered. Israel is a miniscule nation halfway across the world and consisting of only 8 million people. One has to ask how can it dictate so much of our foreign policy and garner so much power over our elected leaders? As citizens, we must begin to ask these questions and not stop until we are given proper answers.
Don’t forget that Israeli spies have also successfully convinced fundamentalist Christians that they are so special that the end-of-times could very well happen during their lifetimes. And of course for that to happen, there must be war and mayhem in that region. Little do they know that the Israelis are laughing at them behind their backs, calling them the fools they are for freely giving away their blood and treasures for this religious fantasy.
So you won't be watching Wolf Blitzer for 3 hours each night?
right, cuz israel isnt a huge ally of the united states, =P
If US understand the difference between 21st century and 1960s WWII, they will stop sanctions and increase their influence in Iran by money and business rather than old carrot and stick military based policy since the time for this policy is expired and the more the West continue this way the more their economy goes bankrupt and the more they will loose their global influence. US needs to learn from China, India, and even Russia on how to control Iran regime.
Iran would be hurt by a joint operation by Israel and the USA....however....Iran has the capability of protecting itself and of inflicting damage as well as itself being damaged. It would not be a pleasant operation for either side. It would be a dumb move on the part of Israel and the USA. Scars would be left for a long time but Iran would recuperate and I would not give you a single dime for the future preservation of Israel itself When you play with FIRE....you eventually get BURNED!
If I may, why must we use airstrikes? Why not use our massive stockpile of Tomahawk missiles? The Iranians can't block them, and they are extremely effective and accurate against targets. Just look at how they were against Libya! We could take out their air-defences and command structures before sending in the planes to mop up the rest, ultimately sparing lives and making this conflict a heck of a lot easier!
Wow...you make it sound so easy. Just like that. This is not a video game. This is real life. There are painful repercussions (for us and for Iran) that will follow any type of aggression. Just as we are a sovereign nation, so are other nations, including Iran. Any person, system, or nation that engages in double standards, hypocrisy and selective leniency automatically discredits itself. I am a proud American, and I would like to remain proud of being an American.
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Howabout Farais bin MohammadHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA...........
Very mature response. When you are ready to respond like an adult, please let us know.
thank you...........
thank you again...............
We don't want to pay for another stinking war. Our middle east allies can handle this themselves if they want to start something with Iran.
hey coocoos, you realise you're arguing over a plagiarized article? just take a look at the second paragraph from top:
"I’d argue that there is there is significant unpredictability about how well an air campaign by Israel in particular would
work ..." sorry Zak, I had to blow the whistle!
Iran and Hezbola need to go..Nuke Iran and nuke south Beirut...a job well done...
Now you're talkin...............
Did you take your pill Mr. 1%?
anther person willing to tell his country to commit a crime against humanity instead of using it as a last resort.. thats right, destroy thousands of peoples lives, innocent and all, just to make a problem worse. you honestly think a nuke would solve anything?..pitiful. it would definitely create a huge backlash within other countries in the middle east, and within the UN itself. may find US in a bigger war than you would think if that were to happen, =P. at least our govt isnt completely full of racists, so that wont happen.
What is all this C.R.A.P about middle east, after all we have taken one of them as our God and have worshiped him for past two thousand years and still counting. Everytime you go to church it is the voice of the middle east 2K ago you are tuning in..give it a rest would you. LOL
why Iran would just up and decide to fling a nuke at Israel, knowing full well that it would be signing the death warrants for it's population for ZERO gain.
Ahmadinejad and the Leadership Of Iran belive in suicide and would risk their country for the 12th Imam
and the Islamic Prophecy.
Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been cited by various news sources as not only believing in the eventual return of the Mahdi, but that the return is near and that it is the responsibility of the Iranian government to prepare the country for his return.
Bullsh !t. You don't know ANYTHING about Iran if you claim that they "believe in suicide". Not a single Iranian has ever committed suicide in the name of Islam and the leadership of Iran are ANYTHING but suicidal. They are survivors, not suiciders.
They sound like idiots in public, what makes you so sure. Like Saddam Hussein they underestimate Western considerations.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also said there are no gays in Iran , this guy is mental and will take his country down with him
There arn't gays in Iran. They've executed all of them.
Thats funny.............gays in iran
Where is the money going to come from? Thats what should be mentioned in this article – This country is in no shape to go through another war, its infastructure is not far from cracking people.
The money is going to come from you and me and our children and our children after them. We will all work like dogs and turn over our taxes (some of us as high as 40%) so that the military industrial complex can stay nice and fat.
After the attack(s) depending on the wind direction, the stench from all the rotting persian carcases will be enough to make people gag.
You are a racist bigot and your fangs are showing. Do everybody a favor and crawl back under the rock you just came from please.
How about risk of NOT striking Iran?
I'm not advocating anything ... I'm just saying....
Both the former heads of Mossad and Shin Bet have STRONGLY recommended against an attack on the ground that failure is almost guaranteed with the number and dispersion of Iran's nuclear facilities. But hey, compared to Mittens, what do they know!
How about this folks – can't we just get along?
How many years of history, how many wars, how much bloodshed, and STILL – we are killing each other.
We are the dumbest species on the face of the earth – we just don't and won't get it.
Ridiculous. Shame on all of us.
A strike does not have to destroy the facilities, just bury them by bombing the entrances and air shafts. Inside the technicians without food or air or water will eventually run out before they can be dug out, and the potential for fall-out might make the Iranians fearful of trying to dig them out.
Iran does not have a large education infrastructure and it doesn't have that many people able to operate a reactor. Seeing bombs coming into their country could have a supreme effect on the people. As long as there were no physical consequences Iran is able to posture and talk tough. Once there are a few well-placed holes in the ground where facilities once were, Iranians might feel very differently about their governments foreign policy decisions!
As I read the second paragraph of this comment, I had a disturbing moment. I realized that most of it could also be said about us in America...Funny how blind we can be when practicing hypocrisy and double standards. I guess we only believe in "freedom" when it involves ourselves and our own darlings.
Sometime I wish China was the Military superpower. They would wipe out all radical muslims without worrying about callateral damage. I also bet Iran nucler facitlities would already be bombed.
china is controlled by the same people that control the rest of the globe other than the islamic people how will that work
Some of the following groups in India are operating in Iran providing intelligence to others (!). They are infiltrating through Afghanistan.
TERRORIST GROUPS IN INDIA
• RASHTRIYA SWAYAM SEWAK SHANG (R.S.S.)
• VISHWA HINDU PARISHAD
• HINDU MUNNANI
• ARYA SAMAJ
• SHIV SENA
• BHARATIYA JANATA PARISHAD
• SANT SAMITI
• HINDU MAHASABHA
• BAAJRANG DAL
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this coming war will be won by the israelis it is predicted the world powers need it to eliminate terrorist funding which globaly comes from iran it will not be easy attack iran and a sagebrush fire starts in the islamic countries thank god we do not live in syria or jordan there will be much mobilization when israel moves peace comes after so they say one world government be prepared
Word terrorist means nothing but a hindu Jew, criminal self centered or a criminal secular, denier of truth absolute, Their are no hindu's, terrorist around the globe by hindu Jew's, terrorist secular s and their hindu gentile, terrorist salve christian's by faith.
Its pretty funny reading grown ups arguing about their fairy tales. Have to wonder what Zues would say?
Zues isn't God. Grow up and quit pretending that you know anything of importance to you. Only a fool will say to his heart that there is no God. If you are, well, good luck. lol
Word Mohammad or Muhammad means nothing else but spirit of truth, translated and quoted in book of hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism called Bible and hindu's ,pagan's of hindered land india as Mohammad,i plagiarized from Hebrew teachings. Mayhem, means Karma, will of truth absolute or spirit of truth absolute, Letter D donates word, "The" in hindu corrupted language Sanskrit in beginning of a sentence and on end in Latin, Arabic or Hebrew language. Every hindu, pagan follower of hindu Christian, pagan savior ism believes in it by faith but denies Mohammad pbh in his hindu soul, filthy desire.
It is interesting to see hindu christian, pagan Mithriac by faith to disapprove of Mohammad and lay on him, their hinduism absurdity for marrying a young girl. He married her after she reached puberty, as he was commanded for a reason to give law's for female protection, non existent at time. But they forget, hindu filthy Enoch hindu's ignorant by faith prayed to as their RAM, deity of hindu pagan origin was married to his sister to keep hinduism racism intact, or their other hindu sanatans, filthy shaman man god such as Plato, Pythagoras and Aristotle along with King James author of King James bible were young boys abusers by faith and followed by hindu's pagans of hindered gutter land india along with hindu priest of hindu pagan Catholicism, as a some thing of holy nature. read your hindu filthy history hindu's pagans of hindered land swamp of filth india and hindu Christians, pagans of hindu filthy Mithra ism, savior ism before spewing your hinduism absurdity against Mohammad.
Have no doubt hindu's, denires of truth absolute, TRUTH ABSOLUTE WILL RULE WHOLE WORLD TO HAVE PEACE, ISLAM AMONG HUMANITY BY ELIMINATION OF hINDUISM, DENIAL OF TRUTH ABSOLUTE AND hINDU'S DENIERS OF TRUTH ABSOLUTE. OBEY TRUTH ABSOLUTE OR FACE WRATH OF TRUTH ABSOLUTE TO END.
We continue to be of the opinion that India is a zero sum event in history and that a break up of sorts is the optimum way to maximize its potential for the people. The current events in India reinforce our belief that the inevitable implosion of India has begun and the beginning of the end state is upon us. Whether that will be nirvana that most of us believe it will, is yet to be seen. But this we will say. This defragmentation of India will unleash boundless opportunities and uber economic demand that will be beneficial to US and Europe and help pull them out of current recessionary malaise. We pray for the events to unfold peacefully and in a harmonious manner for the people of India and its neighbors.
How do you see India being divvied up geo politically?
Thank you for asking the question. First, I see a muslim state emerge spanning from Pakistan side of the Ocean to the Bengal Bay with Mumbai being the CG. .
Folks, it is all over in India. Civil war is in full swing. Rioting by minorities is rampant. Smoke fills the skies of the country.
Stop this madness, let people every were else have there way of life.and have yours,they don't like to be told watt to do as well as YOU don't like to be told watt to do ,buy watt they sale and sale watt they are willing to pay for.AGAIN STOP THINKING THAT YOU ARE A BETTER SPECIMEN,AND EVERY ONE ELSE IS NOT GOOD TO BE PART OF THIS WORLD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE AND BEING SINGLE OUT? or being discriminated just because you are different ?...
To CNN, IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO TEASE PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT WAR, ON LESS ALL OF YOU IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER ARE WILLING TO DIE IN THE SAME FASHION AS YOU TREAD OTHER HUMAN AROUND THE WORLD.
I am a useless piece of camel dung. I post anti American, anti GB, anti semite, anti India, anti modern anything because I am a good moooooslem. I steal people's monikers because I am so ashamed of myself and post the most stupid comment. When people get angry with me, I claim insanity. I am the same guy.
no need to hind, absurd, hindu, ignorant, if it was not hinduism, denial of truth absolute by hindu's, criminals, you mention in your hindu, absurd post, Muslim do not have to fight in defense of truth absolute, human equality around the globe, live with it hindu's, criminals, till hindu Judaism filthy secularism and hindu's criminals are no more, to have peace, Islam among humanity.
The one most successful aspect of recent American foreign policy has been the conquest of India without firing a bullet. That is the beauty of capitalism used as a Trojan Horse! Economic victory! Give them a taste of steak and they will never settle for hamburgers again. USA now owns India Inc. not only economically but also militarily as economic subjugation ultimately leads to military domination.
Takeaway is that the right policy can have positive implications for Iran
Face it, Iran's leaders have been bent on the eradication of the Jewish state of Israel, if you are any kind of intelligent human being, and are up on current, and past events, Iran DOES want Israel to go away. And its because they feel like the region was stolen from the Palestinians, not to mention for religious reasons also.
I agree Israel is aggressive and overstepping here, but Iran DOES pose a real and very viable threat to the humans who live in Israel. Remember, in Israel, there are Jews, Muslims, Americans, Indians, Chinese Russians, ect. ect....no matter what happens, if this war does happen ( and I believe its just around the corner) there will be more innocent people die from the war, then the politicians who decided to start it, so in the end, the people who NEED to die, will remain alive to continue to beat the drums of war in the future.
The animal world is at more peace than humans, and we call ourselves the superior species??? In actuality, humans are more of a threat to one another than anything else on the planet. We are destined to kill ourselves off, sooner or later. Why do we need nukes?? Thats an easy answer, to kill one another, like guns, they are no good for anything but destruction, and as a race we continue to build them. What kind of intelligence is that? To me, that just proves that the human race is doomed, sooner or later, one day, the nuclear holocaust WILL happen. Its inevitable as long as the weapons of destruction are available to humans.
I might be stupid and dumb, but I know that we are in over our heads with this war obsession we have to annihilate each other, and its not getting any better. Mark my words, before the end of the year, 100s of thousands of innocent people will be murdered by the rich arrogant politicians with their fingers on the doomsday button. It's coming, its just when exactly. If anyone thinks its not going to happen, your more stupid than me. The world leader WANT this war, its just that none of them want to be blamed for starting it. In the end it wont matter, because the elites will be in their bunkers under a mountain somewhere, and us expendable humans will be vaporized in the reign of nuclear warheads raining down all over the world. Its coming soon to a city near you!! 2012 the year the world ends??? Very possibly!!!!!!!
peace, Islam, shalom is in obedience to truth absolute, not in hindu Judaism, filthy self center ism, secularism, desire peace, Islam by following hindu Judaism, criminal secularism, denial of truth absolute is way of hindu Jew's, filthy secular s to deny humanity their equality.
Since last 50-60 years US of A is fighting with everyone in this world.....overtly and covertly....I don't know how much they need blood to keep thier economy running......
Israel is name of A person, not of a land, as you hindu, absurd in your hinduism, absurdity, Israelite were Hebrew, not hindu Jew's, terrorist self centered, denier of truth absolute.
TERRORIST GROUPS IN INDIA
• RASHTRIYA SWAYAM SEWAK SHANG (R.S.S.)
• VISHWA HINDU PARISHAD
• HINDU MUNNANI
• ARYA SAMAJ
• SHIV SENA
• BHARATIYA JANATA PARISHAD
• SANT SAMITI
• HINDU MAHASABHA
• BAAJRANG DAL
LEADERS: L.K. Advani; Ashok Singhal; Bala Saheb Devaras; Bal Thackeray; A.B. Vajpayee; Savarkar; Baikunnth Lal Sharma “Prem”; Balraj Madhok; The Shankaracharya of Puri, Niranjan Dev Theerth; Rama Gopalan; Variyar – Vishwan Hindu Parishad; Dharmalinga Nadar; Cho Ramaswamy
I think Obama is never going to get involved, he is not going to help Israel now due to elections, or even after elections. Israel has every right to defend their nation. Being a small nation and having to be surrounded by enemies while the U.S. can't talk because their across the Atlantic. One nuke is bad for a small nation like Israel, the casualities. Ouch.
But, you see they have an enemy who hates Israel and is soon to have nukes, and nobody thinks they don't want to wipe them off the face of the earth. So there is know possible war with Iran and U.S. because we have a president who is afraid to ruin his chances as president and to ruin his reputation.
Just from the point of vew of western philosophy, morals and values how can you justify a nation created by force by taking land of natives and influxing with foreign immigrants. Would you like someone to lay claim on your house and kick your family out? Give me a break. Nobody hates Israel, but the way it was created by force.
Israel is a name of person, not a country, A Hebrew, hindu Jew's, criminal self centered are none other than hindu's pagan's of Egypt and Persia, having nothing to do with Israel, hindu Jew's, filthy secular s pretending to be, what they never were, Hebrew to rob and steal other's property.
Obama will eat Iran before November, promising victory at the polls.
Let me tell you something. Don't mess with Iran. Iran will chew you up and spit you out like baseball tobacco. Take that to the bank and go have a shot of bloody mary.
Inspite of deceiving Americans by people like CNN's Mr. Fareed Zakaria saying that:
a) Iran is a rational actor
b) A Nuclear armed Iran can add to the stability of the region by acting as a counter balance to Israeli nukes, and even Indian & Pakistani nukes MISLEADINGLY portraying friendly India & Pakistan as adversaries to Iran!
c) By being the VERY FIRST journalist of repute(?) to MISLEADINGLY claim that an US & Israeli attack on Iran will be seen as YET ANOTHER front of the US war on Islam, something NOT even radical Muslim countries have claimed. On the contrary, the Saudis have been urging US to attack Iran, by saying that we need to "chop the head of the snake".
The only possible motive of Mr. Zakaria’s MISCHIEVOUS assertion…..is thwart any potential attack on Iran by COVERTLY influencing “naïve” American public opinion, and if an attack did indeed take place stir up greater problems for America all over the world incl. amongst the millions of Muslim Diaspora right here in the west.
A notable reference to such an eventuality can be seen from the ASTOUNDING statement by a senior Pakistani diplomat (NOT just another Pakistani!) Pakistani High Commissioner to the UK Walid Shamsul Hassan who warned of Terror on the streets of London if the US drone attacks continued on his nation. He said “ There are over 1 million Pakistani Diaspora in the UK and they can make the roads of London less safe” (ref: Sunday Times Sept 8th 2008), and in eye opening 4 part BBC interview (ref: You Tube Oct 10th 2008).
So, even as a danger from nuclear armed radical Iran, and self declared Islam bomb possessing Pakistan (which in the words of Richard Clarke is adding to 100+ nuke stockpile like SAUSAGES!!!) remains, the REAL GREATEST DANGER is US complacency.........of doing nothing at all........and this is fed by internal elements such as Mr. Zakaria an active mouth piece for Hamas, Hezbollah, the Iranians, the Pakistanis and ofcourse the Muslim Brotherhood.
With credible reports that President Obama is considering Mr. Zakaria for the position of US Sec.of State in his second term, Americans can only pray for our country's safety!
hinduism, heart ache of hindu, ignorant from hindered gutter land india, spewing his hinduism, absurdity, not for sake of the west to hind, fool west to reach hindu, terrorist india goal, yes, Pakistan has over one hundered Nuk's, but for none other but to turn hindu filthy hindered terrorist country in to a swamp, if they look at Pakistan with an bad eye. cry out your heart hindu's, denires of truth absolute, end of hinduism, illegality will be by truth of Pakistan.
This has hindu manifesto written all over it. The writer should quit cutting and pasting these comments. If there is nothing intelligent to add...better to keep quiet.
India is playing a double game with Americans in Iran as well as Afghanistan. We have invested a lot of resources in India over the past two decades and given a lot of aid to prop it up. There has been no investment on this return. Instead India has squandered all the resources in building nuclear weapons while poverty remains rampant in the country and minorities marginalised. We need to revisit our relationship with India. American taxpayers will not tolerate this anymore. We need to take care of our own populace going forward. We cannot be exporting jobs to India or giving it financial or technical handouts.It has become too big to govern or create any value for western countries or even for its own population.
Inspite of deceiving Americans by people like India's Mr. Manmohan Singh saying that:
a) India is a rational actor
b) A Nuclear armed India can add to the stability of the region by acting as a counter balance to Israeli nukes.
c) By being the VERY FIRST country of illrepute(?) to MISLEADINGLY claim that an US & Israeli attack on China will be seen as YET ANOTHER front of the US war by saying that we need to "chop the head of the snake".
The only possible motive of Mr. Singh's MISCHIEVOUS assertion…..is thwart any potential attack on China by COVERTLY influencing “naïve” American public opinion, and if an attack did indeed take place stir up greater problems for America all over the world incl. amongst the millions of Chinese Diaspora right here in the west.
A notable reference to such an eventuality can be seen from the ASTOUNDING statement by a senior Chinese diplomat (NOT just another Chinesei!) who said “ There are over 1 million Chinese Diaspora in the USA and they can make the roads of New York City less safe”
So, even as a danger from nuclear armed radical China, and self declared Buddhist bomb possessing China (which in the words of Richard Clarke is adding to 100+ nuke stockpile like SAUSAGES!!!) remains, the REAL GREATEST DANGER is US complacency.........of doing nothing at all........and this is fed by internal elements such as Mr. Singh an active mouth piece for Shiv Sena and RSS..
With credible reports that President Obama is considering Mr. Manmohan Singh for the position of Butler in Chief of Harriman House, Americans can only pray for our country's safety
Iran isn't the problem of Israel... they spread terror all over the world and must be stopped.
You are absolutely right. Israel is out of control living on american taxpayer handouts and must and will be stopped. It is just a matter of time which is quickly running out. Shalom
An attack on Iran would be total folly. The US could not handle Iraq with almost 30 million people. Imagine A WAR WITH A COUNTRY OF 80 MILLION AND GROWING. There is no proof that Iran has or is trying to get nuclear weapons. Iran has a right to nuclear energy like any country.Always remember weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Yeah where were they.
Population does not mean anything when it comes to the military might of each country. Both Israel & the US have much more advanced weapons systems, etc.. than Iran does and it would be a short war just as it was with Saddam.
If the Israelis go it alone, the Iranians will retaliate against both Israel & all of the US military installations in the Middle East so the US should be involved right from the start and add their military might to that of Israel and make this attack on the nuclear installations a very powerful one, so as to not start a prolonged war. I am quite sure the Israeli's have been working out a plan of attack with the US against Iran for quite a while now and have drawn up many possible scenarios. If Israel waits much longer it will be exactly like North Korea all over again. Iran is merely stalling.
It was only last week that Iran, once again, threatened the very existence of Israel. It's like "here we are, come and bomb us because we know you won't". The time is very near.
hindusim, criminality labeled Israel has no right to exist, neither they are what they claim to be, Israelite, nor they are Hebrew's, but hindu's, pagans Jew's, secular s of Egypt and Persia, blood brothers of hindu, racist Nazis, hobo's, hungry to justify, unjustifiable by hinduism, terrorism against truthful of Islam, in their hindu Judaism, filthy secularism, self centrism, not of civilized word, but of hindu criminal Mafia. No one will miss them like elimination of a hindu filthy pond in a clean society.
It is sad how countries with the ability to promote peace seem to be always at each others throats. Sometimes i wish you people could see the tragedy that befalls so called third world countries as a result of the actions of your leaders. I pray for the day when people around the world will realise we are not smart and cannot save ourselves, and change our livestyles before it is too late. LOVE, PEACE, JOY IN THE HEART are wonderful, definitely much better than creating bullets to massacre/lynch each other. Finally i would like to advise yhose who hate based on colour, race to desist from it. LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR. Who is your neighbour? it is your fellow mankind whom you need to show love
Very true, peace, Islam is in human "HIS DESIRE" reach, but dependent on choice, only thing human own in life, of human, a gift of our Lord, Allah, Al , the La, limit H, most high or Absolute 360* and made human "HIS" assistant on earth. Cause of disunity and mayhem is hinduism, denial of truth absolute by divide of truth absolute in to two or more by hindu's ignorant s to manipulate and control rest of the humanity by hook or crook, justified not but truth but hindu Judaism, criminal secularism, borne not of spirit but of hindu soul, filthy desire. It is good to wish love, submission to truth absolute and care for each other but, truth absolute and hinduism, denial of truth absolute do not mix, like oil and water, It is nothing but a wish to have peace, Islam among humanity in presence of hinduism, denial of truth absolute.
Iran has 80 million people ... 220 million Persian speakers world wide ... and Iran is backed by Russia and China ... anyone that attacks Iran is setting themselves up for a dog fight that will last a thousand years.
HOMS (SANA) – Governor Mohammad visited the Military Hospital in the city of Homs along with Secretary of Homs Branch of al-Baath Arab Socialist Party, Subhi Harb, the Commander of the Central Region and a number of the People's Assembly members.
The delegation checked on the condition of injured members of the army and law enforcement forces, who were targeted while performing their national duty in confronting the armed terrorist groups, and wished them a speedy recovery.
The officials also visited law enforcement and military personnel at al-Mwasalat roundabout and al-Siteen street in the city.
Members of the military stressed their high morale and determination to carry on with their national task of eliminating armed terrorist groups in defense of the homeland.
The delegation talked with the families of a number of martyrs and offered them gifts and related their condolences.
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LEBANON (SANA) – A unit of the armed forces foiled on Saturday several infiltration attempts from Lebanon into Syria by armed terrorist groups through al-Shabronieh, Idlin and Halat in Talkalakh countryside.
A SANA correspondent quoted a source in the governorate as saying that the armed forces continue to tightly control the border and the terrorist groups were deterred and fled into the Lebanese territories.
The source added that the infiltration attempts coincide with armed attacks on law-enforcement members in Talkalakh and al-Hosn town and a shooting reported from the Lebanese side to border guards on the Syrian side. The source added that Lebanese authorities inflicted heavy losses on the terrorists.
ALEPPO (SANA) – The armed forces continue to carry out their duty of protecting the country and citizens and in a number of neighborhoods in Aleppo, a large number of terrorists, some of which have been determined as having Arab foreign nationalities have been extinguished.
Field commanders say the armed forces' string of successes are due to the cooperation of Aleppo's citizens and the information they provide on the movements and whereabouts of terrorists.
Armed forces relate they have cleared out the Saif Addoula area in Aleppo from terrorists, killing dozens of them and seizing sniper rifles, RPGs and hand grenades.
Additionally an armed forces unit raided two terrorist hideouts, one in a building near al-Karama School another in a house near Sukkar Mosque in Bustan al-Qaser neighborhood, subsequently eliminating the terrorists who were thusly positioned inside them.
The armed forces encountered an armed terrorist group in the areas of al-Jdeida and Souq al-Souf in Aleppo city and report several of the mercenaries were extinguished.
Similarly in Qastal Harami, Qastal Misht, al-Shaboura and al-Tananeer Square in Aleppo the armed forces have stormed several terrorist dens and taken down many of these cowardly mercenary terrorists.
In Aleppo's Old City, an armed forces unit flushed out and killed a sniper who had stationed himself in an abandoned building overlooking the road to the prison.
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DARAA (SANA) – Authorities say they are pursuing the remnants of armed terrorist groups who were engaged in al-Hrak area in Daraa Countryside during when many were killed and host of others arrested.
A source in the province told SANA that listed among the terrorists confirmed dead are Yasser Adnan al-Qattouf, Mohammad Ahmad al-Hariri and Husam Abdul-Latif al-Salamat.
Authorities also continued canvassing the areas of al-Laujat, alTaf and Qalat Sahar in Daraa countryside, While in the town of Sheikh Miskin in Daraa countryside, an armed forces unit have broken up a terrorist group and killed many of who were so aligned, including the alleged ringleader identified by town residents as Anas Hamid al-Deri.
Well the outcome ...Could be....
Total war in the Middle East....If Israel were in ANY of these operations..that would be it for the Middle East..Every Muslim \Arab nation in the Middle east would declare war on Israel...and America as well...
Worse still would be if Russia became involved because they are supporters of Iran and Syria...What would have been a mission to End Irans Nuclear Bid..Could turn into ...World War Three....and that would end very very very badly for every one...The World over......In our Mad rush to rid one nation of Atomic weapons and safeguard Israel..We set in motion events that...I think St. John wrote about on the Island of Patmos....
No easy solution to Iran..exsept perhaps Black OPS....Make it look like an accident..you know a Nuclear Accident....It could be better than ....Every American And Russian City blown off the face of Earth and the Middle east a smoldering heap....The only ones left perhaps if they did not party on that fatefull day would be China..But they would be left with No-One to trade with and radiation spreading across the globe....
Yep....I would say concentrating on Iraq for the last ten eleven years...was a HUGE MISTAKE...HUGE...But America has got to do what America has got to do....Most times it makes no sense whats so ever..But is sure makes Americans feel good about America........and that ..Is realy what 6 Billion human lives on the PLANET EARTH IS ALL ABOUT...RIGHT ????
or is it the Hoki Poki...after all
... leave the guys enrich his uranium ... don't mess with something you can control later.. don't be stupid.
let's find a way to break up the iran/russia/china/ alliance quick or this might get ugly fast! do any of you realize what this team up is gonna do to us? once they hash out some of the regional disputes who do you think they will look at next? they all have enough chutzpah to make a first move if they are feeling confident enough. our defences wont quite collapse over night with proper warning, BUT they won't hold forever either. the combined might of those powers should make us a little nervous.
Israel has to attack Iran's nuclear facilities very, very soon. It is highly likely that Israel & the USA have already worked out the various scenarios already as the Iranians will retaliate against both Israel & all of the US military facilities in the Middle East. The US could help Israel make this attack an extremely powerful one and it would be quick as opposed to a long, drawn out war. If Iran was to tell you that your country should be wiped off the face of the Earth, over & over, you would attack Iran with a pre-emptive strike. Once Iran has nukes they will completely destabilize the entire Middle East. WE do not need a nuclear war.
our weakness is our lack of followthru. this will never be over because we do not take and HOLD what we conquer. if we step in they whine because we hold the leash tight, if we leave them alone they whine because we don't step in so we are pretty much stuck with losing either way. we might as well gain something for ourselves and leave them alone and work on making ourselves a better and more advanced (technologicaly/and culturaly) society so when the smoke clears the survivors want be with us willing instead of being conquered.
This analysis amounts to no more than totally idle speculation. Israel only needs to damage the sites sufficiently to make them inoperable, they don't have to destroy the entire complex and the leaking radiation will keep the Iranians away. Underground facilities could be made dysfunctional simply by bombing the entrances. The real question is, is Israel capable of such an attack without any major losses. And can it stop Iranian retaliation with further attacks.
Pride and nationalism in Iran would be smashed by an attack by Israel, this along with the poor economy and Iran's relative isolation, could very well topple the regime, as the reality of foreign bombs falling would strike at the Iranian people's sense of safety.
If we are going to launch a military attack on Iran, I would like to see the President go to Congress and request a declaration of war. Is that so unreasonable?