President Barack Obama has warned Syria not to use or move chemical or biological weapons or else the country risks crossing a “red line” and provoking a U.S. military response. But are there any circumstances under which America should get directly involved in Syria’s civil war?
Writing on GPS last month, Fareed Zakaria noted that there’s much we still don’t know about the Syrian rebels, as well as genuine uncertainty about how coordinated the opposition is, and whether groups on the ground have a sectarian flavor.
GPS welcome readers’ take on whether the U.S. should be doing more to assist the rebels, and what the drawbacks might be. We’ll be posting a roundup of the best responses later this week.
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how about screwing off.
syria is none of america's business..
Thank you, joe. I couldn't agree more but try telling that to the thick headed bureaucrats in Washington who listen only to the M.I.C. I'm afraid Obama's eventually going to drag us into this war, too!
Seeking re-election in November, Obama has been reluctant to get the US into another war in the Middle East, even refusing to arm rebels fighting against Assad. Indeed he would have to think twice before embarking on such a foray. There's a risk that the whole conflict would develop into a protracted proxy war, should Iran and Russia get themselves involved as well. A military intervention will see the demise of Assad's regime but doesn't necessary ensure peace and stability.
I doubt if Assad would use his stockpile of WMD against the civilians. He will earn nothing but contempt and hatred among his own supporters and the international community.
Im not voting for Obama this time but it bothers me that McCain and Lieberman kind of scan the world looking for a fight.
We cant afford another one nor the 2 Billion a WEEK we are paying out for Afghan.
If we are, as we claim a democracy, let the people and not the politicians decide. We try to sell it all over the world, but do not ourselves practice what we preach. Politicians are out of touch with reality and only serve themselves.
Obama, not my favorite person, hasn't dragged us into any wars, only prolonged Bush's war. As to Syria, they need to settle their own problem. If we're worried it might spill into Israel, keep the Israeli army loaded and let them handle it. Syria isn't our business. Of course neither was Bosnia and we stuck our nose in there.
Coming from a military family, we can't stand aside while a genocide is taking place. With the power we have as the only real superpower in the world comes tremendous responsibility. Had we not acted in Europe during the Second World War and in Bosnia for example, the world would be a very different place today. We need to act to pre-empt the slaughter of a whole country by a tyrannical regime.
To RedWhite&Blue – get a clue!
Islam would absolutely love it, if US and Russia destroyed each other. That is the only way, it would be so much easier for them to spread the message of "love" around the world. Why should more american boys die and for what? Where would we get the money to pay for all this, Chineese? You want to become a "freedom" fighter – go ahead! No one is stopping you. Be a puppet on a string. Enough is enough! Let's bring all the boys home!
If we have not learned anything from Bosnia and more recenlty Lybia is that the effect air power has on events on the ground is tremendous. Add to that the lessons in Afghanistan in regards to armed UAV systems, and you get tremendous power projection without putting American lives in danger.
First of all, calling ourselves a democracy is ignorant. We are a democratic republic. It is incredibly irresponsible and impractical for a country the size of America to operate as a democracy. The politicians represent the people who elect them. Don't like it? Vote for someone else.
Secondly, interfering in Syria would take away from the legitimacy of either of the victors. If you want them to have a stable regime in a post-war environment, let them finish the war on their own. By winning the war for them, we take from them their legitimacy and leave the door open for future conflicts. Read some history.
@Tommy if you are looking to avoid another war, I would suggest NOT voting for the Republicans! Romney has already stated that he will be more aggressive with Iran, Russia, China and North Korea!
j von hettlingen-I seriously doubt the US will get involved election year.I believe the US sees Iran as more of a direct military option.It seems our gov't feels they can take care of Syria with indirect methods.
I think I'm scared now, it looks like Republicans and leftist have found something to agree on.
Have fun fighting in Iran when Romney is president. Can you say draft?
History Bea,
Did you forget that Obama dragged us into Libya?
It's not about politics anymore people. It's about America being the only world power. There is a reason why Russia, China, Brazil, India, and all the other "up and coming" countries won't ever be world powers like the US...because they won't step in and do the right thing. Helping Syria is important. Those people are fighting against an oppressive regime that needs to go and while I don't agree with sending physical troops in, lobbing a few cruise missiles at key enemy targets, providing air support and anti-air capabilities is completely within possiblity and puts our men at little risk while still providing the Syrian people with a way to win the war. We did the same thing in Lybia and look how that turned out, everything is fine and the Lybian people are now rebuilding their country with us as an ally. Russia is only determined to keep us out of Syria to fulfill their own economic goals because the current regime gets all their weapons from Russia. While I agree a war with Russia could be costly and potentially lead to a nuclear holocaust, I also think Russia needs to learn that their not important in the world anymore and it's time they stay out of the worlds problems especially when all they do is make it worse! I'm tired of Russia's threats. Their a nobody now and I think Obama should just ignore them completely.
@Brian it seems you've got no clue what is happening in Syria (like what was happening in Libya). The rebels cannot win the war "on themselves". Nobody is still sure about the nature of the rebellion, but if they are people, they have no power. Assad, like other dictators in Middle East (best exampled by Iran) has everything in hands of government: money, arms and other resources. Like Khamenei of Iran, Assad is ready to kill people like ants to keep himself on power. US interfering should be on humanity basis, not political. This is the way Americans can give back to world.
Just like the previous admin took us into 2 wars we didn't belong in and didn't pay for it, except for the Haliburton's and Chenys and such(who made billions). At least Obama got us out of loser Iraq and getting out of "we'll never change Afganistan" (Vietnam all over) and is at the very least the man who said the go on Bin Laudin. helped Libya get rid of Kadaffi without us losing one American soldier.
Are you people psychotic?
You are confusing Obama with Bush.
What war? we would not be involved in any "war", our mediterranian and middle eastern fleets plus the airbases in iraq and afghanistan (not to mention Turkey will likely follow suit too) would bomb the al-assad regime into submission, the only ground forces we would send in would probably be special ops troops to secure WMDs and people/points of intrest, most likely for demolition or extraction. we dont need to send an army, there is already an army on the ground fighting al-assad, We are not going to go all out on a little POS country, we learned our lesson before. we would do the same as libya. it worked so good that that will prob become the NATO standard for supporting popular up-risings. As for cost, the fleets and airbases are already there, the bombs will be dropped in China Lake on training missions anyway if they aren't used in a war so they don't cost anything (unless we drop a lot obviously) and we're getting real combat flight time and expirience for our pilots against a country that can barely do anything against them (fighting smaller weaker countries turns our military into battle hardened veterans with minimal casualities against them, thus improving our military to deal with a real threat against our country) and then jet fuel which again most of that fuel will be burned anyway on training missions. Syria is committing crimes against hummanity and we are the strongest country on the Security Council, i believe it is not only our job but is also beneficial to our military and country as a whole, to intervene. People need to look up the facts and reason, military intervention doesnt mean all out war and it isnt going to break the bank. The people and especially the children of Syria need us, they are without utilities and food in a lot of the country
The U.S. needs to stay out of Syria. These are the same people who danced in the streets on 9/11 over the destruction of the WTC. We are only furthering Middle East anger, not too mention both Russia and China who are dead set against us on any intervention, ala, the weapons we're already filtering in to the rebels. I don't agree with Asaad or the Syrian Govt. on how they're treating their people but I don't exactly see a mobilization of ME nations coming to the rebels aid. No. We sit this one out until NATO gets involved and its unilaterally agreed to take action.
It´s no country´s business to put another in order. These people are used to living like this I think.
But what is the world´s business is to help those innocent children that did not choose to be born and involved in a middle of a war. They don´t know what is going on so they would never understand why they are getting hurt!
America began as a democratic republic. The Civil War destroyed the Republic, returning the land and its resources to the Crown and firmly establishing the Federal Corporation and eventually the Federal Reserve bankers control of the currency. Your voter registration is a contract with the Corporation and gives the Corporation power of attorney with your name. Elections are controlled by the Corporation, and your vote is meaningless.
@red,white&blue...really? we can't just stand aside while this happens? We sure stood aside in Rwanda when a real genocide was taking place. We sure as hell stand aside when the isrealies bully and kill the palestinians. Your arguments have ZERO merit! I suggest you stop with your biased propaganda.
To all of you who are so eager to go a war I suggest you go and do the job. I'm sick and tired of people who want to drag america into wars and spend billions of dollars when we need this money to improve the economy create jobs and take care of our own. By the way Syria is not Lybia so stay out of it.
Marine 5284,
I doubt that Obama will bring us into another war. If he does it will be like WW2 but more deadly. He proved his mettle when we did not lose one American soliders life in the Libya overthrowing of Gaddafi .
If we help take out Syria without the Arab league and Nato we're going to get screwed again. remember if Syria goes then Iran is next.Iran id the big problem. Take them out and the whole Arab countries will not feel as threatened as they are now.
Assad is a dead man but he is better of rotting in Jail and suffering the consequences of his behavior, Him Iran, China and Russia can all rot for all I care..The Americans may have their faults too but crimes against humanity is rearing its ugly head and they all will pay the price...America, Israel, Turkey and the rest of you...get in there and get the job done...Bring justice to the Syrian people! Go NOW! The war drums are beating!!
Despite the pathetic world power ramblings of Pegasus326, the US can only make this matter worse. It's time for the Arab League to step up and contribute something to the world.
Good point about Afghanistan. That involvement – which will leave that unhappy country in the same state in which it was previously – has already bankrupted the USA. There is no money left for another conflict. Funny tho how even when the States does not get involved in a regional conflict, they still are criticized. Damed if they do and damned if they don't. Good ting about being broke is.... you have no choice left. The USA will stay out of Syria because they cannot afford to get involved... and perhaps for the best. It would only add to the confusion if the USA was fighting Al Qaeda in one country and were allies with them in another...
Getting involved in other people's civil wars has done more than a little damage to America's reputation. Yes its an argument that as a superpower America has a responsibility to police the world... but who decides what side to take? And why take any side at all? Burma has had a continuous war for over 40 years but The USA has never felt itself obligated to get involved. Why is that? Is it because Burma is a country with no oil reserves and no strategic importance? If America has a responsibility to police then why do they only police a few select conflicts? I think the "responsibility to police" argument is full of holes... and looks more like a rationalization than anthing else...
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Isolationism hasn't been a realistic option since December 6th, 1941.
Welcome to the modern world.
if isolationism was adopted by the U.S. in 1941,could the present world disorder be the same? if hitler were victorious on that adventure what could be the the political landscape of the world today?
This isn't about isolationism. There were major continental conflicts going on between world powers during WWII. This is a relatively small civil war going on in a small country. There is nothing similar between the two and we should spend more than one cent on Syria.
*no more than one cent
Do you call your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come on your lawn and break your property? There's a difference between Isolationism and Non-interventionism. Non-interventionism builds good neighbors with fences while isolationism creates the North Korea and Iran type of society and government. Just imagine what we do, as Americans and America, to other countries; Imagine China doing it to us. Picture China invading Mexico and Canada then calling the United States and evil threat while they fly drones and military personnel in America to "kill suspecting terrorists and Mexican/Canadian migrating forces." There would be WWIII.
This isn't isolationism, it's Real Politik. Not sticking your nose into every little fight or problem is practical politics. They Syrians, both sides, won't love us more if we intervene, and many will hate us and the rest of their idiot brothers in the Arab world will see it as another reason to want to do us harm.
I agree. We are the symbol of freedom to the whole world, and we need to act accordingly. When the holocaust took place, we said "Never again". It is happening now in Syria.
Are you kidding me? When the Holocaust happened, the US government turned away boatloads of Jewish refugees and told them to return to Germany. WWII wasn't an American crusade against evil, it was a calculated war to protect the countries who owed us a lot of money from loans in WWI (GB and France). Learn some history. We have never been a humanitarian nation, and now is not the time to start. Over the last several decades, we have been constantly interfering in the affairs of Middle Eastern nations. Our efforts to overthrow democratically elected officials in Iran in the 1950s led to the current regime, and our constant and unwavering support of Israel, coupled with our interference in Iraq, continues to prove the anti-Americans correct when they say that we are a meddlesome country that only cares about our own interests in the region. Why waste more American lives to prove them right?
@Bill there is nothing "small" about the sectarian conflicts in the Middle East, and it is NOT restricted to just one small country! The conflict between Shia and Sunni has been raging for CENTURIES and with the ripples of this conflict spreading to every corner of the globe, NO COUNTRY is immune from the repercussions of this fight!
John, where is your evidence that no place in the world is safe from their conflict? The political and sectarian conflicts in the Middle East will stay there is we (America) don't keep poking our nose in their business. They don't hate our "freedom" or any of that nonsense. They don't care about us. All they want to do is to be able to handle their own business without the self-interested interference of western countries. For the last century, all we've done is mess with their governments and borders without their consent and it's caused a massive backlash that isn't religious at all. Just leave them alone.
Well we never were very isolationist to begin with. From the Halls of Montezuma, to the Shores of Tripoli. That was long before the 20th century.
Wrong, Polaris. Isolationism is an excellent idea whose time has not only come, but is long overdue!
We would be speaking German
tell me the last time in history, what year; we were allies with Syria; because i believe they've been in Russia (aka-Soviet Union) camp as long as can remember. I know we are driven by our heart and the media sucks us into wars, but we need to Steel ourselves from this one. How did Somalia work out guys. I'm retired Military also, and by the way, what would "end state" look like if we entered Syria, how would u know when to leave, think about it. Russia still matters, China for sure matters; keep diplomatic heat on these 2 nations and make them look bad on world stage.
Just because our idiot government decided to take Europe's place in screwing up the rest of the world have they self destructed in WWII doesn't mean we have to continue going down the same path. We will meet the same end eventually if we don't change.
@bonwood72 – seriously? That's your argument for why we've never been isolationist?
The Shores of Tripoli refers to the First Barbary War in 1801 to 1805. This was a result of Barbary pirates (from the Barbary states) attacking American trade ships, stealing sailors and demanding ransom from the US. The Halls of Montezuma refers to the Battle of Chapultepec during the Mexican-American War. Not really seeing how either of those examples means the US has never been isolationist.
But it is now. Paradigms change. What was once true is not always true. The world MUST be allowed to destroy itself. The herd must be thinned.
We in the US should stay out of Syria and stop the War in Afghan since we now have trained 300,000 of them to protect their own country which would save us 2 Billion a WEEK we need at home. McCain and Lieberman should be looking for Peace for a chance not more Wars.!!
How we train them and what they retain from the training are two completely different things. While we do provide them with adequate training they Afghans and Iraqis don't seem to retain what they are being taught on a large scale. While in Iraq we trained and trained with the Iraq military and it seemed necessary to step in during combat to avoid disaster. There were also times when the Iraqi commander working along side the U.S. infantry would ask for help because they were to inept to handle the situation on their own. Our military is vastly superior to that of Afghanistan and Iraq. I'm talking strictly ground forces.
Well put, Tommy. Thank you.
That kind of thinking shows only humility and honesty .. no vision
First, I want to say the US and her Allies are doing a great job saving lives around the world, that is what is takes to be a world Power, at this moment I think we all as a people of this world should have to consider the best ways to save lives in Syria, the US president and other leaders have tried to use diplomacy in the issue and its not working, personally I hate wars but I think we have a responsibility to save lives here, the United Nation should do more, maybe a no fly zone would help, something has to be one to put the current situation under control, some of us here a writing so much negative because we are not the ones in the war zone, we should be playing the blame game, people are dying daily, we should remove sentiment and politics and do the right thing.
300,000 "police" in afghanistan means nothing, Havent you ever heard of President Karzai referred to as the "Mayor of Kabul" ? Afghans call him that because that is all he controls. The Taliban have control of 70% of the country. If we left afghanistan now it would be a complete diservice to all who served there.
yes, syria is not americas business and so with all other arab or muslim countries. why waste so much blood and money on all these implacable enemy ??? the awkward reality !!! the engine is in america but the gas is in the arab and muslim countries. we have western values which the muslim arab wishes to devalues. the prescription is clear: trouble.
US involvement in anything everywhere gives Arabs something to unite against! If US chooses to withdraw from its position as a common enemy, the chaos and bloodshed in Arab world may triple – who knows! I think US do what it does best: go in under some false pretence of WMD or whatever and kill some more civilians at great expense: like in Iraq and Afghanistan!
Inarticulate mumbo jumbo, the gist is correct. The 14th Centruy doesn't want to be part of the 21st. Let's cut them off from everything they can't pay cash for.
It is not so much about Syria as it is about the genocide of a people by a brutal and heartless dictatorship. We have intervened in other countries before for less. We need to stand up for freedom wherever that is and help the people who are making the ulitmate sacrifice to be free in a democratic country.
America has time and time against stood up for tyranny and fought against freedom. Look up the history of America for the last several decades in the Middle East. Specifically, look at how we treated the democratically elected leader in Iran in the 1950s. Let's stop pretending that we care about freedom and democracy. We don't. We need to leave the Syrians alone, just like we need to leave the rest of the Middle East alone. Interfering in their affairs only strengthens the anti-American sentiment because it justifies their claims that we are meddlesome and only work towards sides that favor us. We aren't the world police.
I am from the Middle East and live in the US for 13 years. I would like to add a little more to your information. Arabs and/or Muslims do not wish to devalue the western values. I absolutely agree there is many western values we do not believe it is right, but this does not mean we are willing to change them. On the other side, there are many Middle-Eastern values are refused by westerns who are willing to change them. We both have to believe and respect each others' cultural differences.
By the way, I learned a lot from the Western values and found many of them are truly valuable; I practice them myself and teach them to my children. Many of these values are fundamental in the origins of Islam but many Muslims nowadays unfortunately abandoned them such as commitment to once work/job. Once job is a duty that should be fulfilled to the best possible regardless of the incoming money. Also the individuals' rights and responsibilities are twins that no one can work without the other. I also love the active life that fills up my time rather than leisure and laziness.
My bottom line is we do not devalue your values and we do not hate westerns by any means. If there are disagreements and tons of misunderstandings, that does not mean there is hatres. : )
Agreed 100%
Let Syrians do thier business
no a thousand times no. no more wars. what part of withdraw and save lives and treasure do you not understand. let the arab league or the turks or the martians but not us
Here here!
I agree completely. Let them do their own thing. We usually end up messing things up when we get involved anyway.
The US can not and should not be the world's police force. Syria can eventually sort itself out if we mind our own business. Let's face it, if we send our military to every conflict, we will be spread thin and increasingly vulnerable at home.
AGREED
Why do we always have to be in the forefront militarily? Why not force the UN to do more and the Syria's neighbors to do more? The UN can call more conferences and undewrite more resolutions! It can't hurt in a messy situation like this. Russians have been quietly evacuating their Tartar base as a precaution. I commend them for that. They are using a Polish ship. Did Poland at the least notified the U.S. about it? All they have now there are three delapidated empty barracks. The Saudis don't even tell us with precision, whom are they supporting. Are they supporting the friends of the Western world, or enemies? How can the U.S. give anti aircraft weapons to enemies? This type of business must be taken care off before anything else. It should have been done long ago, for the people in Syria are suffering! Can the UN summon Assad tso that he can explain his plan for Syria? Can the UN tell him that the best he can do is to annouce his departure after an interim government is set up? How long it takes to pick up the phone?
It is part of the responsibility we have as being the most powerful nation in the world. If your next door neighbors house is on fire, do you do nothing because "it isn't your problem"? You may not like it, but yes, we are the world's police force. Luckily, for the likes of you, it is still a volunteer military, so you will be safe at home on your couch.
Every day, for many months, we have been hearing that the violence in Syria is spiralling out of control. I If Mr. Ban Ki Moon gets the same information we get, cannot understand what has been going through his mins. he is responsible for this genocide! He is unwilling to do his job! His job is to stop the genocide! If Russia and China stand on the way, his job is to remove Russia and China from the UN! This guy is not running the UN, He is a Paper Tiger, running a Paper Tiger Organization! Where is the world outcry against this guy? Aren't nations contributing to the UN budget? It the organization id disfunctional, close it down!
desert voice/troubledgoodangel you asked : Why do we always have to be in the forefront militarily?
Read below and it will answer you question:
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We have been in enough wars. We have spent too much money overseas and fail to remember those we lose in battle. Of course, all of this fits nicely into the political plans to take down the US in accordance with UN Agenda 21. Just ask Obama and Hillary Clinton. Look, just bring our people home and keep them here to protect us. I vote for politicians to get on the battlefield for a while.
Love how you just pick out dems when the Republicans, who have had far more power in modern times, have done nothing different. Keep enjoying the Kool-Aid.
Unfortunately, we live in a time when we need to work in tandem as the world. We are not the only all-knowing country. I believe we should work in tandem with Russia and China related to Syria and Iran. We know we had difficulties when we stood INDEPENDENTLY no matter why we stood alone (or nearly alone). Eyes Wide Open, Ears Wide Open – listen, negotiate, communicate and decide in tandem to make the world a better place. AMS
Politicians stopped taking the field when the crossbow became a standard anti-siege weapon. So you might as well forget that option. And as for their children? The children of the ruling class have rarely been sent into battle as well, so quit expecting to see senators kids out there. And as for our country not being involved in war? ... Well, that is a pipe dream too. Nations will go to war as long as people believe in invisible men in the sky. Stop religion, and you will stop wars. Until then, we fight. And try to remember that there is no second place in combat.
We should only get involved if they have nukes... otherwise it's Syria's prob.. same goes for IRan - but i think Israel is going to take care of that without our help..
I agree. Yes, we could take out Assad pretty easily, but, if Iraq and Afghanistan have taught us anything, we won't be able to stop the killing, nor will we gain any more allies or strategic advantages. We "don't have a dog in this fight", and the only thing we'd accomplish is more damage to our economy.
Briliiant...nice answer, joe anon 1.
The US and/or NATO doesn't need to send in BOTG. What needs to be done is a major campaign of communications and intel disruptions for the C&C of the Syrian military. If they can't communicate with each other, it lends a tipping of the scales to the rebels, giving them opportunities to maneuver without response from Syrian troops.
Why should we assist these rebels? or any rebels for that matter? We don't know what their ultimate goal is. How do we know they aren't exactly what Al-assad says they are, armed terrorists? And what are they going to do when it is all over and they have control, go back to hating us and wanting to attack us?
I agree. Other than the fact that there is likely to be more instability in an already unstable area – this is not our fight. We need to get our finances in order and focus on ourselves. And, how about not going to fight "for" any more people who generally hate Americans for a change?
None of the Islamic country appreciate whatever we do. So better to stay away and watch.
That's because all we do is kill their people, destroy their property, and promote greater instability wherever we go.
@Brian what do you mean "we"? You don't belong in the country our soldiers fight for
@Brian – The United states is a Empire hiding under the guise of Democracy.
how many of the nations of the world voted America as the "World Police" . My economy is faultering because of America's illegal war in Iraq. It bankrupted you, and produced an economic tsunami around the world.
@All Americans- The love of war is in the hearts and minds of all patriots. the same pride in the citizens of the Roman Empire.
At least Syria actually has WMD's, so you guys can't be duped by that line again.
I agree. We need to stop wasting our money on wars and foreign countries and focus it on ourselves. There are too many impoverished Americans who could use help. The Middle East isn't our business. If we need the oil that badly, let's drill our own oil.
Agree'd, or take some of our oil. We'd rather sell to America than China any day.
I agree. We don't need to go into Syria.
i agree with joe anon
Since you start from the beginning,let put the US soldiers on Syria ground war so the true Syrian feeling towards American will be felt.
Absolutely "not" get involved!-why should we?,is our national security threatened? Dont we have a "Gazillion problems" of our own?--Whats the thinking?,,,that maybe we can make the rest of the world little USA"S ??,,ridiculas.
Couple of Pts.,,,,,,,,Russia,, as defective as they are in some of their thinking. they are biting at the bit as far as having a chance in redeeming their hurt egos since the so called collapse of the soviet union,,,,,,thats a long time!,,,,,,,,,another Pt. would be that Russia again has nuclier weapons and has already said that Iran in particular and syria are their partners in things,,,,,,,,,final pt.,is Syria an enemy of the USA and our best friend in the middle east israel worth fighting for??,,,,,,should we have WW 3?---PLEASE!
WW3? how? you think Russia or China will stand up to NATO over a little country with almost no natural resources and a doomed government (albiet friendly to them), no they would never be that stupid. Russias military is in shambles after the fall of the soviet union, they did an extreme downsizing, all the tech they have left is the pinnacle of 1990s technology and the older stuff has all been sold to china and is their best equipment, the Peoples Liberation army maybe big but it is mainly unmechanised, its a defense/border expansion army with a sad excuse for a navy (they have some good planes but thats about it), not to mention the russians and chinese would have to airlift in all the supplies/men/equipment in which they do not have the air power for. yes they have nukes but no country in their right mind would dare use a nuke in this day and age(the chinese politiburo isnt in their right mind but they aren't that dumb) Russia just rattles their sabres hoping to still scare some people but anyone with the slighest knowledge of what shape their military is in knows they wouldnt dare anything
They are in a civil war let them work out their own problems it is none of our business
Wish we could screw off since I personally don't give a Shi* ABOUT another war..We have better things we can spend out money on..Let the countries in the east deal w/ the crap
Has the Obama Administration killed enough civilians in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan, Middle East and Lybia? Is there no end to his world domination vision. You the dumb americans are paying for his and the 1% greed. So wake up and see what is really going on
US should intervene in Syria to stop Asad regime
Ameer Why not no you go and die in Syria why Americans soldier!? should do for you?
There should be nothing done in Syria apart from Humanitarian aid and Sanctions on a concerted international level that includes China ohh and making sure countries like Russia and China and the U.S. don't sell weapons there
Syria is no better or worse then Nazi Germany in WWII.
Syria is committing crimes against humanity and someone must step in and stop it. since we american's seem to think we are the policemen of the world, it seems very strange that we have done absolutely nothing to stop the killing of the citizens of Syria by it's own government..
hey, obama, get off your butt and stop the slaughter of ten's of thousand's of human beings. for once, do the right thing.....
herbo or hebrow !!! those are not human being they are Alkeida which killed 3000 in 911 and yet You are more stupid
than western media who never mentioned who are these fighters!? why in syria never peoples come by millions in streets like Egipt!? of course Mobarak killed 800 peaples but Millions never stoped In syria from beginig they brought Guns
Karim,
uh... the syrians did come out in the streets and protest, unlike egypt the government decided to crack down extremely violently and thats how this civil war started. do you know how to use your computer to look up information or do you just listen to your crackpot state news in whatever POS country you are in, go spread your anti-semitism somewhere else
Syria is the US's business just as it is our business when a whole nation is being subjected to a genocide by a ruthless and hearless dictator.
I never knew killing insurgent enemy combatants was genocide... thanks for clearing that up
Your dammmmmm right – keep USA out of their problems – we have enough here!!!!
We need to arm the rebels, women and children are being killed everyday, remember Kosovo, what a lack of moral courage... The Syrian army is great killing un-armed rebels, lets help people in need Asad is a killer, just like his dad. the United States should stand for something,
No, stop wasting money on other peoples war! Let their neighbors, allies resolve it! I want my money to go to fixing our country!
Whos money?
Syria is an Arab problem. Our best strategy is to file ONE protest in the United Nations and be done with it. More American intervention in an Arab and mostly Muslim country does us more harm than good. Nothing to gain and plenty to lose.
"al-Qaeda in their ranks. By and large, Free Syrian Army (FSA) battalions are tired, divided, chaotic, and ineffective. Feeling abandoned by the West, rebel forces are increasingly demoralized as they square off with the Assad regime's superior weaponry and professional army. Al-Qaeda fighters, however, may help improve morale. The influx of jihadis brings discipline, religious fervor, battle experience from Iraq, funding from Sunni sympathizers in the Gulf, and most importantly, deadly results. In short, the FSA needs al-Qaeda now." from the CFR report: http://www.cfr.org/syria/al-qaedas-specter-syria/p28782
What happened to the AlCIAda of yesterday that was our sworn enemy...the AQ that the US swore to eradicate? The AQ that cause the US to spend trillions on "homeland security" and overseas wars, and quietly impose a police state ready to use on the American public if need be? Oh, but they are really controlled and funded by the Saudis, and of course the US never tells the Saudis where they are needed...sometimes as our boogeyman...sometimes as our ally! How revolting that the American public is still taken in by the ruse of preposreous proportions!
Let the little girls in the blue helmets defend them keep us out of it. Oh wait they can't even tie their own shoes
As an analyst that just briefed Syria today I think I have a little insight into the inner workings of the civil war...yes the civil war, that is what it is now. I advocate for multilateral (NATO) intervention in the way that happened in Kosovo and Libya. The closest appoximation to what is goin on now is what happened in Kosov in 1999. To the casual observer, Syria is not an ethnic cleansing but as you dig deeper, it is becoming one. The Alawites, who have been in power for 30 some odd years, do not want to relinquish power to the opposition Sunni majority. The tensions between Shia (Alawi is a sect of Shia) and Sunni are great in Syria and can easily be whipped up into a case of ethnic cleansing far greater than anything we have seen in the country as of yet. The current Syrian Army is no more than an Alawite militia commanded by Al-Assad and once Assad loses more control of Damascus and Aleppo, who knows how desperate he will become. As long as he does not use his chemical weapons, the Unites States will stay out of this but I advocate for intervention as of 3 months ago. Establish a no-fly zone and supply limited heavy weaponry to the FSA and only the FSA.
They need shouldered fire missiles to knock out Assard's choppers and planes,let the CIA give certain fighters the ammo,and stay with them while they shoot down his jets and choppers,also send then 100 Checko tanks,so they can make it a fair fight.BW
If you arm these fighters they will turn whatever weapon you give them on you in due time. Shoulder-fired Hellfires are the weapon of choice to shoot down our planes.
If they are not prepared to finish the fight then they shouldn't have started it in the first place. No more money and lives on wars don't matter to the U.S..
I agree.
We have no idea who these rebels are or what they stand for.
Usually in that part of the world, dictatorships are replaced by other dictatorships.
How is allowing a different group to murder and exploit the Syrian people supposed to help them?
al-Assad's head is shaped like a candy corn.
We don't need another war
We are not the world police and fighting another war with money from China is crazy
Why? is the Media, and everyone else Avoiding the One Major reason "why we are not getting involved" Simple Russia has Warned us the U.S.That if we do it would be a War between them! Two Major Super Powers with I.C.B.M.s' Nukes. Let's stop beating around the bush, the Q. isn't about Syria, it's about us going to War w/Russia. Niether of us are wanting to start offf a Nucklier War. Let's talk about the real Reason.
Because it isn't a reason at all... Russia doesn't scare our government... the only thing that does is the thought of losing an election. Russia would not start a nuclear war over this. Yes politicians from all countries are pretty stupid at times, but not that stupid. The US government is already there helping just not enough or overtly–this assuming said government didn't start the events that lead up to this entire incident; such things are after all, one of the primary excersizes for the special forces.
Leave Syria alone and stop meddiling in other countries affairs ......Our economy is so terrible whole families are sleeping under bridges.....People in some states are breaking into homes to steal food!!! What the hell is happining to this country and were to worried about places with oil and we'll never see the benifits of....enough is enough
What makes the people in one country more important than those of any other? Get your head out of you bum. Even with the economy as it is... Every person in the US has the opportunity to better their lives–and except for the rare occasion of running into sociopaths–not be murdered. Do the children of Africa–abandoned–abducted–brainwashed–enslaved? Do the innoncent civilians in Syria who are stopped at military checkpoints who take sniper shots to the head from their own governement?
Oh, how wrong you are. Syria is very much American business, with the emphasis on the word BUSINESS. To be more precise big oil business. Syria is the shortes route for Iranian pipeline to eastern Mediteranean (Europe). Afganistan is the shortes route to Iranian pipeline to China. There you go. Now you know everything you need to know.
thats true.
even better: how about the rest of the world taking care of america for a change.
US should destroy some if not all of the WMD inside Syria for the Glory of the Almighty Savior God.
Thank you.
I mean we could stay out of it entirely, indefinitely...
Stay the h*** out of Syria. It's about time we let the Middle East fight their own battles. There is absolutely zero legitimate reason that we should intervene here. We shouldn't even be providing intelligence ops.
HELL NO KEEP OUR TROOPS IN OUR COUNTRY...STAY OUT OF OTHER COUNTRIES PROBLEMS. THEY DON'T WANT U.S TO BE THERE SO I SAY KEEP THE TROOPS HOME!!!
Where would the United States be if the French and/or Spain considered the fledgling colonies back in the 1700's to be none of their business?
Can't agree more...
I think its important for us as a humanity to put life on the side for a second, and think from a different perspective. Although we can all agree that its crazy to see our own blood, our own fellow Americans going and dying in trying to help, we also have to put ourselves in others' shoes. Just because its Syria, or any other country, it does not give us as a humanity to sit and just let them kill each other. What if we were in that same situation, what if our own government turned against us, what if we saw our own mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons, and daughters getting slaughtered by our own people. Wouldn't we need some sort of support?? We are all a humanity as a whole, and we need to stop focusing on pride only in our country. Our country is amazing, and it brought something very special to us all, but lets not forget, that it can all be taken away from us, as it was to many others. We have to always be there to stand against oppression, whether to us or to anyone else. At the end of the day, we are all on the same boat, and may need one another one day. Whatever we do to others, may come back and happen to us. Let's take this moment to appreciate what we have, and at least feel the pain of those in other parts of the world...
Romney says he will go in, but we are so broke from fighting Bush's war that we are unable to help anyone.
Spot on. The United States has impoverished itself fighting wars everywhere for the last 150 years. The Founding Fathers warned us about foreign entanglements, and we are now paying the price of ignoring them.
It IS Americas business you moron! Americas business is world wide!
Assad is a dead man but he is better of rotting in Jail and suffering the consequences of his behavior, Him Iran, China and Russia can all rot for all I care..The Americans may have their faults too but crimes against humanity is rearing its ugly head and they all will pay the price...America, Israel, Turkey and the rest of you...get in there and get the job done...Bring justice to the Syrian people! Go NOW! The war drums are beating!!
The U.S. needs to worry about its own people in the U.S. instead of getting involved in another war in Syria. If they get involved they're not only against Syria, but also Iran, Lebanon, Russia and China. The U.S. cant afford another defeat, just saying
http://rt.com/news/syria-rebel-massacre-aleppo-627/
It will be a big mistake if U.S and the whole word have not controlled the situation in Syria, because the extreme people like Al Qaida or Iran trying to enter this war and eventually they may control it. U.S should end Assad regime and control the situation in Syria politically and military on the ground, otherwise the whole word including Israel will face many troubles in the future. The Syrian liberal people should be helped by the world to make Syria as a democratic peaceful country.
We are doing a crap job at being a super power. The Syrian government is mowing people down in the street and we do nothing. We should call ourselves the selfish power.
We can intervene with air power at a minimal risk to lives, but Obama doesn't want to do anything because there is no Oil in Syria...
We should only "screw off" and ignore Syria if the United States wants to lose our already flagging legitimacy as a global superpower and savior of the oppressed. Ignoring Syria is the same as our ignoring Rwanda in the 1990s, and would've been like ignoring Bosnia, Kosovo, Yugoslavia, Saddam gassing northern Kurds in Iraq etc.
The US and our NATO allies have a duty to protect civilian populations through LIMITED warfare, ie, what we did in Libya. As the oft repeated mantra goes: "With great power, comes great responsibility"
I agree 110% wiith you. Why should we help anyone that will stab us in the back.
Joe, I agree with you. Leave them alone. They will only stab us in the back. It's their mess
I couldn't agree more. We have Saudi and Qutar backing the rebels neither country known for their democratic tendencies. These guys got involved in Darfur slaughtering 300,000 Christians. Same thing going on in Syria. Bashar got democratically elected and now outside countries want him ousted....USA, Britain and France don't get involved in supporting Sunni terror.
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I would say that before the US should even consider involvement within a nation's civil war, we should know more about the opposing combatants (since obviously we're against the Syrian regime)...specifically any cultural and sectarian differences that could crop up after a defeat and overthrow of the Syrian government. Otherwise, problems, much like those in Iraq could crop up yet again. Of course, there is also the obvious need to discuss how much involvement we should actually have in such a conflict (should it be like Iraq with a full ground war or like Libya with air support...I'm thinking the latter).
Obama's apparent approach is prudent. Continue providing logistical and arms support from Turkey through the CIA & allied support and only draw "the red line" at weapons of mass destruction being used against the rebels. Continued diplomatic support and sanctions are effective as well at forcing defections. We've been through two very expensive blunders in the Middle East in the last decade, it's wonderful we have a cautious administration in this instance.
Nothing. Duh. Hahahahahahaahahahahha
One month is too long. Hurry back Fareed.
I like Obama's rhetoric and agree with him on Syria. If it does come to military engagment, you cant say that the US didnt try "good faith" diplomacy first.
I too enjoy watching Fareed and have it programmed for every Sunday. I do oppose him as a couple weeks ago at comparing the US citizens having more guns then other countries. He will lose some viewers if he gets on taking our guns away. Other countries know if they invade the US by land we will be fighting back not giving us like allot of countries did to the Germans with out even a shot fired.
The United States should do exactly what she did NOT do in Vietnam, in Somolia, in Grenada, in Iraq, in Afghanistan! Keep our nose out of other peoples business. The military congressional complex is worried that, without wars, folks might begin to notice the cost and price of Pox Americana these days! Instead of lusting for new toys like nuclear battleships for Asia, we would better invest in caring for our broken wounded warriors
Thank you, Dave. I couldn't agree more.
Can Michael Jordan teach a 5'0 tall white kid how to slam it down, and play the worlds best basketball? Absolutely not. So how can the USA "perfect" or even make other counties "better" than what they are now? It can not happen. Look at the history books. I love when people are saying "help Syria, they need it " Wel.. why dont you join and get shot at and see your best friends get killed, and see your family back home unemployed due to high American debt? I am in the Marine Corps and all of that i notice. It is great to help people, but if we keep bouncing war to war to war we will fall economically and not be able to afford to even help ourselves !!!!! We must get our country stable and debt free again before we embark in the worlds problems. We have been doing it long enough. Let someone else take over for a few years...........
that should be it !!! but those on the know knows that's not the solution. complex problem cannot be cured by mere aspirin.
You are right: if aspirin does not help why not to try euftanasia.
"nuclear battleships".......W .......T .........F are you talking about?
US has to stop banning weapons to get to hands of revolutionaries !!! They must supply them with Anti-Aircraft weapons !! Then need a No Fly Zone !!! US simply has done nothing to help Syrians in their revolution but empty words !!!
Syrian people will never forget or forgive those who supported them and those who were involved in the conspiracy against them !!
U.S. is supplying limited weaponry already through Turkey. The weaponry should stay very limited though- we learned our lesson by arming the Mujahadeen against the Soviets in Afghanistan and creating famed fighters w/weapons- among them Bin Ladin.
That's right! Supply them with anti-aircraft weapons and then watch US airplains and helicopters going down in Iraq and Afghanistan! American politicians may be dumb, but they are not quite 1d1ots yet by wahhaby friend!
Unfortunately, history in Iraq and Afghanistan has taught us that the people in Syria WILL forget who helped them, and forgive those who opposed them, in the interest of their own nationalism and religion. If we get involved, I doubt that it would take a month before the same people we helped were setting IED's by the side of the road.
This is why these foolish dictatorial regimes should never be allowed to acquire WMDs. They cling to power regardless of the lives at stake. When you add WMD into the mix you are looking at a very dire situation. Russian and NATO should both seize control of these items immediately. Let us not forget that Russia has its own extremist problems in Chechnya...
Please leave Russia alone: if you want trouble, you can have it all for youself!
And Russia does not have problems in Chechnya any more: they have just bribed Chechens into peace there. That is EU (like Spain recently) who have problem with Chechen terrorists now: should have thought a bit harder before playing their usual liberal games with fire!
Russia has problem with wahhabies in Dagestan: which is another place and different people.
The reason Russia does not have as big issues with Chechnya anymore is twofold. 1. Because Russia's response to terrorism is swift and unforgiving. 2. Because they bribe Chechen officials to maintain order.
All I'm saying is that it is a little naive for Russia to think that if WMD fall into the hands of terrorists along their southern border that those terrorists might not try and smuggle them into the Russian federation and use them... Do you remember the theater bombing?
You know, the 75 million dollars they supplied to the Syria rebels, they could've given 75 million dollars to my library and make it 24 hours. Also, the MUNI bus here in SF, the could've given 75 million dollars there and cut the price of my fare! My bus system just cancelled their free transfer tickets. Had they gotten the 75 million dollars here, I might still get that free transfer ticket!
But now you have the moral satisfaction of knowing that this money were spent on making life of many people even more miserable and so much worse than yours! Isn't that a good reason for average American to cheer up!
Hell no. 75 million will turn to 75 billion in ot time. It is money going to people that will turn on you the second they can. Spend the money here and bring the troops home. The prosperity and way of life will aspire those long for it. How and when they attain it is their business. Stop playing world police and the only thing exceptional about this country is not it likes to enter wars that don't concern it.
Certainly, Mr. Zack. No one knows, about the oppositions yet. They Might be back stabbers.
No: they are all noble freedom fighters aspiring for better future and democracy for their people! FSA is comprised of peaceful pro-democratic protesters and defective soldiers from Syrian Army: we all know that because CNN told us so!
Absolutely NOT.
Without reading other comments on the issue, I will sincerely relay my view: On the cutting edge of election USA should do nothing other than supporting UN decisions (whiche are compromised anyway) and keep its power groups under under collar. USA can not start or carry out a regional project with the pending priority of the Top Men's need of being nice to all people in a wholesale approach. Under the historical data of USA on Middle Eastern issues, no action of USA will be sincerely likable in anyway by the East. Sometimes NO ACTION IS THE BEST ACTION. Their is a verse to this end in the "Tao of Power" . Something like "I do not move towards my enemy but in not moving I take a step forward"
If one thinks Syria revolt is a democratic movement, consider this. Saudi Arabia clearly is supporting the rebels to overthrow Assad. Why would Saudi Arabia support democracy when they are a dictatorial regime. They support it because of religious sectarian conflict. This is their fight within their house. We should not get involved. Thinking "an enemy of our enemy is our friend" has got us into problem in the past – think Afghanistan.
Althogh Asad action may look hectic and a last ditch there is method in it. Instructions on Methods of terorizm are well written and tried and tested. Even a panicy person can apply it fr his/her ends.
I guess you just know best. Stripe on your shahide waist and go: US approve of suicide bombing in Syria.
It's a catch 22. Eventually we'll be blasted for not helping the humanitarian crisis. But if we step in now we'll be ridiculed like always for sticking our nose where it doesn't belong.
So Zacharia please tell me if we are not arming those filthy mercenaries where are they getting heavy weapons from,what do you think All Americans are stupid and brainwashed.
Saudi Arabia and Qatar doesn,t even manufacture steak knives,unless what you are saying is that we give it to the Saudis and then in turn they give it to Turkey and our paid mercenaries.
If you rack your brains, you may even find some precaution in Russian's limitations. We, humen do not realy want to see another plunder of world heritage -as was in the Gulf War- nor do we want to watch another Medieval lynching. People who kindled the fire should also be resonsible for resolving the aftermath. At least have the time for repending. Otherwise it is so easy to do it again. Simply like a charlie Brawn Cartoon- I loved that girl...and sat on the bench besides her....I did not know what to do....So I pulled her hair
Polonius:
What is the matter, my lord?
Hamlet:
Between who?
Polonius:
I mean, the matter that you read, my lord.
Hamlet:
Slanders, sir; for the satirical rogue says here that old men
have grey beards, that their faces are wrinkled, their eyes purging
thick amber and plum-tree gum, and that they have a plentiful
lack of wit, together with most weak hams; all which, sir, though
I most powerfully and potently believe, yet I hold it not honesty
to have it thus set down, for yourself, sir, shall grow old as I am, if
like a crab you could go backward.
Polonius:
[Aside] Though this be madness, yet there is method in't.
Hamlet Act 2, scene 2, 193–206
Ferit I hope this opens a free venue for u
As a Canadian , I can't help but feel that in today's world nobody is free to kill their own . Our media ,comunications ,satillites etc. make the whole world aware of any such event . Mans history of past wars, and the hatred and brutality speek for themselves . It makes me sick to think that the whole world , knowing that killing is going on dailey by a government dictator , sits back and does nothing to help these people . Now I know every buddy ,talks about Alkida being involved , but weren't they also present in Iraq and Libia . If you were a Syrian wanting your freedom and a radical group was the only group willing to help you , what would you do . We all know the track record of China with their own people , as for Russia Syria a major arms purchaser not to mention the only navel base for Russia . The UN needs to revamp their set-up ,this idea that their hands are tied by two countries for their own political and financial gains in mined is a definite flaw in their organization . These people need the worlds help not just the United States . The world should be ashamed of itself for allowing to happen in the first place .Assad needs to go , the sooner the better for the sake of the Syrian people, and the world .
Typical...There is a difference between "Lets take that Hill" and "Go take that Hill" I think its pretty clear where you stand. Saddle up. Get a gun and head on over.. Send Your family... Not ours. Keep believeing what the media tells you... Its always the truth.
Jake Rockwel says it really well.
Jake Rockwel I agree with you 100%. Let all of these people who want to get involved in Syria Pack their bags and their guns and their families and catch the next plane. Oh yes they should remember to take their money also to help the rebels.
Also as a Canadian, I believe that person is a nut, and probably from Quebec. They can't speak on behalf of America, and definately not Canada, because we need America to get our forces there. (our Cf18's were on your aircraft carrier in Libya) sorry to say fellow Canuck, we just can't do it anymore. Why send our forces to Syria? why not Somalia? or Mali? or a plethora of other oppressed nations? it is not feasible, and Canadians can't fool ourselves that we can do it without America. just ask Israel (our 3rd best friend/behind Australia)
Well said.
Get the WHOLE world involved in it, all on the same side (including Russia and China), and have them ALL contribute men and money to the cause of stopping the fighting and disarming EVERYONE in Syria, and to the cost of maintaining a peacekeeping force there until Syria has a stable and functioning government. Then, and only then, might I consider allowing the USA to get involved.
How can we even discuss the option!? Haven't we learned any lessons: Iraq, Afghanistan? We are trying to be the good guys just earn their hate? Stay out stay strong. Any harm coming from there, overwhelming response. None of the good guys stuff!
My take should we intervien in Syria, not no but hell no. Hope thats plain enough.
No Way... Never! We need to focus on our economy NOT throwing dollars at war. Total BS that this is even considered.
US should not be involved in Syria. In fact, instead of helping the opposition to the Assad's regime, US should rather put real pressure on all parties to stop fighting the war and the killing in Syria will come to an end. On the other hand if US gets involved in Syria militarily, then we will have to prepare ourselves for a regional war, and even perhaps a WWIII scenario because Russia will never let Bashar fall. In such event more than likely in one way or another these 2 following groups will face each other militarily: The first group's main players are: Russia, China, Iran, Syria, and Egypt. The opposing side main players are: USA, Isreal, Turkey, EU countries, Saudi Arabia, & Qatar. In summary, any military intervention is catastrophic.
This is well said, and the best comment I have seen so far.
Let their Saudi friends foot the bill.
The president is right to be concerned about not allowing these type of weapons to fall into the hands of other terrorists groups, on the other hand we can not to go into another war. It seems that China and Russia are determined to constantly undermine any attempts to put Assad at bay. It's our fault really because we were stupid enough to build China's economy, and instead of showing support they're always vetoing what we believe in. Stop buying Chinese products and bring them to their knees!
Right: Americans, stop visiting Chinese restaurants and eating Chinese take-away! They want to keep you fat and stupid: that is why they make their food soooo oh yummy and keep their serving soooo oh big!
muslims killing muslims= WORLD PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really think we should stay out of it completely. We have issues here in the US that are far important. Lets not yet again make the mistake of trying to solve the problems in the Middle East. Seems that in the long run we are welcome there.
Let Israel do what they have to do and stay out of there way without are options and support. Sorry but that is there countries and guess what we have ours. Lets deal with ours.
If it were up to me I would close all overseas military bases, bring the troops home and stay out of the business of being the world's policeman.
President wanna be corcern ok but
plz dont dont send troops just let the other muslim countries handle they own ppl coz if something goes wrong they just luv to blame USA n not themselves so just stay out of it plz n be happy in the land of freedom
Americans just cannot make themselves concerned enough to send troops in! That is a temporary hiccup: send the troops in and they will get concerned fast enough!
stop the madness. it is not the US problem. if you want to see troops then send the Qutaries or the Saudis or even the Iraqis (they should finally be trained after 2 trillions
Please stop worrying about Sysria. What will we get by getting involved with Syria after all? Lets worry about our citizens – the rising unemployment, health insurance becoming unaffordable by day, real estate prices, active terrorism in our mosques, increase of islamisation in various parts of our country,..there are many. Please Mr. President, think about your own pupil first – we need your attention, like NOW.
Yep, go into Syria. I wanna see WWIII go down...
The only thing that kept going down so far in all these wars was US. So cannot guarantee you the WWIII, but that thing pretty sure!
The USA needs to keep it's "NOSE" completely out of Syrian affairs. The USA has absolutely NO BUSINESS there, just like we had no business in the glorious decades of the 1960's / 1970's in Vietnam. Look at all the money spent on the wasted Iraq War during George W. Bush's administration. Is Iraq any safer today than it was under the mad tyrant, Saddam Hussein? I don't think so. More people are dying in Iraq today than they did under Saddam Hussein. And now that we've captured / killed Osama Bin Laden, what the heck are we still doing in the Afghanistan & Pakistan regions? More money FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET !!!!
And everyone seems to forget that we killed, directly or indirectly, between 150,000 and 800,000 Iraqi civilians ( depending on the estimate ) in our obviously unjustified attack on that country. In the case of one city, Fallujah, approximately 40% of the city was leveled by our forces in reducing it – so massive structural damage across the board. What kind of 'humanitarian' thought process underlies overlooking that carpet of bodies but being shocked by the perhaps 1/10th thereof in Syria? Principle, morality, justice, if it exists is both consistent and proportional. There is disturbing discordance then between our acceptance of what we do and what we judge others for – which brings into question whether or not our response has anything to do with principle or not? Given the forgoing the verbal drive to intervention just looks like opportunism of the most shallow kind to me – with scant regard for the Syrian population as a block or their interests.
Hear, hear!!
Well said! Are we willing to cause a lot more thousands of death in the name of democracy. At what point can we say the cost of democracy is too high to achieve. Leave us out of Syria. If we intervene we will cause more misery.
NOT ONE AMERICAN SOLDIER ON THE GROUND. In Vietnam, the US lost over 50,000 soldiers. In the las two wars, it's been around 5,000ish, which is still far too many with many more soldiers wounded and traumatized. The Sunnis and the Shiites and alawites and every other sect of Islam in the MIddle East have had vendettas against eachother for centuries. That will NOT change, not matter who intervienes. Foreign military will do nothing but accelerate the killing. I think Obama realizes this. I don't think he wants to go to war, but that may not be up to him. The only thing the US should send to Syria is some hot lead. Fly out some Global Hawks and a few hundred cruise missles and bomb them back to the dark ages if they ask for it, but don't put a single soldier in the line of fire. They've fought enough over the last decade.
That's a terrible idea. Instead of bombing them, just let them solve their own problem. Any sort of American military intervention will continue to prove the anti-American groups in the Middle East (and around the world) correct. Why is it any of our business? Providing military aid will only begin to detract from the victor's legitimacy in a post-war situation. Civil Wars need to be won by the people who actually have a stake in the outcome/future government. Look throughout history, countries that don't do their own groundwork will always have enemies who can truthfully question the authority, legitimacy, and independence of their government.
We should not spend one dollar nor one American life for any of the countries in the Middle East, and that includes Israel/Iran.
Asma al Assad will have her snooch invaded.
Beware of going blind even before that babs!
The president should talk about world peace and not world chaos. We don't need to have another war, but rather we need to spread love instead. Everyone should Stop supporting the rebels with arms and the war will be over. Support only true peaceful movements to Democracy and not terrorists like Al quaida to take over Syria. We don't need another Iraq, or Afghanistan Syria. We should focus on our own problems at home like the economy, health care, take care of the poor and homeless.
I see an approach similar to the one we took with Libya as an acceptable reaction. I will say that Syria has been an area of concern for the U.S. for some time and many have predicted an oncoming conflict with them in the past five or six years. I doubt we will see a presence of American Troops soon, but a show of force is more than likely on the horizon. Diplomacy is a difficult card to play in a region of the world where differences have been etched into stone for more than a hundred years. On top of that there has been the uprising in Egypt and Libya giving these rebel groups hope that they too can achieve their goals.
Ryan: you cannot have a party and not to have a drink! If you do Syria the same way you did Libya: al Qaeda will have all the fun: Syrian chemical and probably biological weapons included! Do you want chemical weapons used against your American population? I do not think so!
That is what Syrian government was telling you all along: your President just pretended that he misunderstood the message and you believed him! How gullible of you!
Uncle Sam only needs to through my brother and I's names on the entire middle-eastern region – A. Balm and H. Balm. That'll resolve the entire Islamic world's problems.
Let them kill each other – it's not like either side doesn't run around in the streets yelling "death to the US, death to Israel." The best thing that can happen in these regions is that the extremists get demolished. If Al Qaeda is working with the rebels then it's best that Assad destroy these sections so that we don't have to use our bombs and money to do what we are already doing in Afganistan.
Let some other country take the lead with intervention. Why do we always have to do other countries' dirty work? Turkey is next door to Syria and they have a decent sized military. Turkey has more at stake in Syria than we do. They have to contend with the refugees, Kurdish nationalists and stray bombs & bullets buzzing across their southern border. So let Turkey risk their troops. We can give them "logistic" support.
I will reiterate what many people have already stated: the BILLIONS of dollars used to go to, and subsequently maintain, ANY war is a blatant mis-use of taxpayers' money and national and state budgets. Additionally, the promise that our troops that return home are "taken care of" does not happen. We need to refocus our efforts on rebuilding our country and strengthening our economy. That money could be used to help our troops that have already fought, troops who will be coming home soon, rebuilding our school system, fixing city infrastructure, etc. A war that has absolutely nothing to do with us (mind you Syrians are begging us not to intervine), should not involve us. We have to work on our domestic issues before going abroad to "fix" another country's problems!
Realistic speaking what on earth can the U.S. do? Personally I say nothing. This is a civil war in Syria so maybe at best we (U.S.) can help supply arms but do we know who were giving 'arms' to? NO we do not.
Well, you know: what goes around, comes around... US could finance and supply its enemy for a while, and then have another "war on terror" in a couple of years: after let's say "FSA" uses ex-Syrian chemical weapons on US territory against US citizens. Keep them busy: whatever keeps Americans away from depressing thoughts...
The USA has the means to be oil independent. Why don\'t we do it? hummmm ...
The oil industry and the auto industry
are tied at the hip.
Cars run on gas, they get rich.
Simple but easy.
The denuclearization of South Asia (Subcontinent) particularly India is imperative.
Quid pro quo transfer of nuclear technology by USA to third world countries such as India needs to be opposed on moral grounds. Billions of people live in that neighborhood and would be at risk from such catastrophes which I am sure the American people would not like to be a party to. We are all well aware that that region is prone to floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, massive power blackouts and of course terrorism placing such nuclear installations at tremendous risks. US Congress is urged to reconsider and cancel all the agreements for the transfer of such technologies due “Force Majeure”.
Oh Chinese troll strikes again! Pipe down! India is a great country and a great democracy and has never attacked any country in it's thousands of years of history. Can we, or anyone else claim such distinction?
Steve ma man I can undertsand your emotions as a hindu Indian but lets not kid each other. Here is something for you to chew on along with your cow buddies.
INDIA: On a Goat and a Stick:
The problem with India is that is built on a system of cultural and societal values based on Hinduism which is a cult. Nations built on a cult seldom survive in the long run. You can only take it so far based on symbolisms of a goat and a stick with a skinny little man aka gandhi banging boys at night and spinning wheels during daytime.
I agree with you krm1007. It is widely rumored some of india's nukes were hijacked during recent blackout. We cant have incompetent people handling nukes like Indians. No way
I smell Paki crapped diapers!!
NOT WHAT AMERICA SHOULD DO, BUT WHAT IT MUST.
I\'m not making any moral or philosophical statements on this one. Anyone with an accurate sense of recent history can tell you that Europe and America are hooked by the cojones into being servants of the middle east oil cartel. Our dependence on Saudi oil makes us their slaves and our boys will fight and die at the pleasure and bidding of the princes of the Persian Gulf.
The USA has the means to be oil independent. Why don\'t we do it? hummmm
but that\'s just me, hollering from the choir loft...
I just came back from visiting the holocaust museum in DC. It's so hard not to want to go over there and stop this senseless killing. Same as Rwanda. My heart says yes on a global level. No on a US level. Very hard to to sit back and let people die.
None of our business, election or no election. This is a Syrian problem. Let Syria deal with its problems. Sad about the people dying, but, still a Syrian problem. Let the Arab League, spend its money to solve this situation.
The US must stop acting like the world's police force. The UN should handle this and the US, as a memeber of the UNn should do its part, but only a part!
Great plan, considering the months of squabbling over this issue already taking place at the UN - with no action. When has the UN ever been effective at getting anything done ever? Watch Team America where Hans Blix says to Kim Jong-il, "We will become very angry, and we will write you a letter telling you about how angry we are." That sums up the UN in one sentence.
I stand by my comment. I agree that the UN needs a complete overhaul, but an international force needs to deal with these issue and NOT the US.
If the UN had stones and clout, this would be over by now and blue helmets would be everywhere. Annan is no prize and couldn't control a boxing match between friends. The Syrian government knows this and does as they please. Assad doesn't want to be the next Kaddafi on a car hood....
When will our government listen to us like they are suppose to? Americans are sick of being in foreign wars. Let them kill each other, we have our own issues to straighten out before we are in civil war.
As long as Russia has a naval base there ,no armed UN forces can set foot on Syrian soil ,this would put US troops (or our allies troops)at risk of direct combat with Russian troops , are we all ready for this. This is the only port of call Russia has in the Mediterranean and i don`t think they will not give it up.
Edit : This is the only port of call Russia has in the Mediterranean and i don`t think they will give it up.
Nothing we could do would ever change the people over there. Stay the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu** out of it
I support a US enforced no fly zone over Syrian airspace.
Let the Saudi's fly the No Fly Zone. What are they saving those F-16's for??
TheLynx
I support a US enforced no fly zone over Syrian airspace.
So you are going to take out that Russian military base ?
You think the Russians are going to sit there and do nothing ?
You monday morning quarterbacks have all the answers, dont you ?
That is how wars start.
Let the Arab League do something. The USA has already done too much for nothing in return. They hate us until we are needed. As soon as we save their asses, they hate us and want us out.
No the U.S. should take a back seat on the conflict in Syria. It's about time other Powerful countries get involved. We are always involved in every countries conflict and what does that get us. Dead American Soldiers and debt we can no longer afford.
maybe we do not need to go, but we do need to help and if it takes us going there and help people that are getting killed by there government that thats what we need to do. if this was a country in another part of the world im sure people would be more willing to help. i have been to war in a few countires and it is horrible to see poeple suffer under there government that should be protecting them. i wonder how many people that posted something on this have seen inocent people die first hand because no one helped them.
nothing the U.S. was allowed to have our Civil War without interfiernce resulting in aprox 750,000 military deaths and fundamentaly changeing the corse of world history. We were left to sort out our internal issues and syria should be left to do the same. not to say that i have no compassion for the syrian people but this is an internal issue.
I agree with not going in, however, those usign the revolutionary war as a justification as to why we shouldn't needs to revisit their american history. If France and a number of other countries followed the policy of the average post here we wouldn't have a country.
Let the Saudis and Turks deal with it we have petulant Isrealis and Iranians to deal with...
Having a hard time answering the question? Consider this: Syria is backed by Russia and China. Still having a hard time answering?
Strictly no. We wasted so much time and money over liberating Egypt and Libya. Today pretty much everybody in the Izlamic world hates. Same story with all the foreign aid that pours into Pakistan. Majority of Muzlims hate the west and US. So why do we waste our resources trying to fix them. Stay out Syria pls.
You only have one planet.
Sticking your head in the sand solves nothing.
Unlike 1941 this is a global economy.
It affects all of us.
We touch it, we own it. Let others do the heavy lifting for a change.
I would like to see us providing the Free Syrian Army with better anti-aircraft weapons in order to level the playing field. The Assad regime would likely be taken down pretty fast if they did not have the air superiority. Also some weaponry to nullify Assad's artillery would save many lives. We do not need to put troops on the ground there but the people there are being massacred. We should show some compassion and at least give the Syrian people an opportunity to fight for themselves.
US can always send a few of its pilots in training do so live practice in bombing some military targets in Syria. We can always try firing some shots from the war fleet on the sea in live exercice to get ready for Iran. But US shouls not send any ground force there. Let the rebels do the ground battle.
US can always send a few of its pilots in training do some live practice in bombing some military targets in Syria. We can always try firing some shots from the war fleet on the sea in live exercice to get ready for Iran. But US should not send any ground force there. Let the rebels do the ground battle.
That is the same thinking that caused 9/11.
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enough is enough. Let them fight their own battles. I'm sick and tired of hearing about our brothers and sisters dying and nothing changes in these toilet countries.
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Enough of being the worlds police force. Let the issue resolve itself, if it directly has an impact on US security then we can act. Lets bring our troops and resources home and guard our own borders for a change. Let the UN or Russia or whomever straighten out the Middle East the US has invested enough.
FIRST, we (USA) should never get involved with anything unless we have direct interest, ie hostages, real estate etc.....If we do get involved it should be with equal partnership from the UN. So if the UN is not involved then we shouldn't be either. We should have left Afghan a long time ago. I believe in helping but it should be a equal group (UN) effort.
As an Iranian American nothing excites me more so that the US direct involvement in Syria for many reasons, the first being that The Islamic Rapist regime in Iran's only ally in the Middle East will be removed. That will make Iran more vulnerable and isolated. Of course our next move is to conduct surgical attacks on Iran with the intent of removing the leeches from power in Iran. It is our moral duty of America as the leader of the free world to do so. With power comes responsibility and sometimes doing the unpopular things.
Mahmoud Ghaffari : Please pack your bags .grab your gun or sword and jump on your camel and start the surgical strikes in Iran and stop expecting the U.S. to do your dirty work for you at our expense
taskmaster, please git-r-done and kill yourself and take that bigotry with you.
Not our job. I am sorry about what's happening in Syria, but it is essentially Syria's problem. They will need to work it out for themselves. Trying to solve their problems is not worth American lives, particularly since the effort would be futile anyway. We don't have any real compelling national interest in Syria, since neither side will like us, so we have no compelling need to participate in yet another civil war. We don't need another Iraq
The US – Controlling the EurAsian supply routes..publicly but guided by their belief in exporting democracy. The greed of a few – the human condition, more for yourself – less for everyone else. We are a family, actually bound by one common acestor, when will things change? until our species has a massive downsizing..? Will we just be another failed mutation? – replaced by something more worthy to inhabit this round beach ball we call home.
Let Russia and Iran duke it out over Syria. The US needs to stay out of this civil war. It will probably over soon and the President for life will have to turn tail and go into exile in Russia or else die in Syria. In some ways it is ironic that Syria is facing a civil war similar to what happened in Lebanon. Syria was deeply involved in the civil war in Lebanon and now it is getting a taste of the same medicine. It is too bad that the ordinary people in Syria and Lebanon have to pay the price in blood for their governments actions. Of course the Syria government turned a blind eye to the rebels in Iraq when the US was trying to impose peace on it and indirectly caused the death of many Americans.
Obumma "The long nose" will take us to war. Gotta try and save his brothers and keep his job.
What happens in Syria is certainly of interest to the US but we should not think of intervening militarily. It is dangerous to take sides in foreign affairs. We should concentrate on being on good terms with whoever is eventually in power.
US intervention isnt the answer. We need to keep on negotiating with Russia and China for them to stop veto-ing our resolutions. Plus im sure the wealthy Saudis are doing a good job with suplying the Syrians
USA must not get involved in the fighting at all. Supply weapons to rebel fighters ? Yes . Limited to M16 rifles only, but take back these rifles when the fighting is over, and Assad dead.
You never know with these Syrians, they used to hate Americans as much as they hate Assad today.
Look at what happened when we got involved with Afghanistan while they were fighting the Russians. After arming and training them, they turned around and 25 years later they were flying planes into our buildings. Let Turkey deal with it. They are completely capable of handling the situation.
I was taught that if I had any pride, I would not go where I am not wanted. I have an extensive network of Arab friends in the the Middle East. THEY DO NOT WANT UN THERE! Our involvement should be humanitarian 100%. Other Arab countries will give the freedom fighters what they need. Only possible exception, if chemical or biological weapons are used or in jeopardy.
Stay out of this conflict. Sorry to see people massacred by their own government, but when the US intervenes, the US suddenly gets blamed for all the violence. Besides, we're broke.
The US should simply stay out of Syria, until and unless they commit an unprovoked act of war against the US directly, or against a nation with whom we have a binding mutual-defense pact (NATO members). For any other conditions... ANY other conditions... no. If there's no mutual-defense treaty in place, too bad so sad.
We're coming out of 10-11 years of war, we're 15 trillion dollars in debt, our infrastructure is crumbling, our unemployment is through the roof. We have decades of work cut out for us, we can't afford to be the world's policeman any longer, and over half the world hates us when we even try it. Let's take a few lessons out of Canada's playbook. We could do an *awful* lot worse.
I have always thought the US has done the right thing around the world, but i only hear negative talk about them, not enough appreciation,
Now I have done a complete turn around on my opinion, I think the US should stay out of everyones business and it would be interesting to see everyones reaction over the next 20 years when small and large problems start,
What would Asia look like? How about the middle east? With Putin and new soviet era what would europe be?
and lol on China not supporting the US, if it wasnt for all of our manufacturing there they would still be in the middle ages. .
I think you would see a marked improvement in the world if the US would quit intervening in the affairs of other countries.
Elections or not, If they use chemical weapons I'd believe the red line will have been crossed and we should do something to stop it.
And it's, one, two, three
What are we fightin' for?
Don't ask me I don't care the least,
Next stop is the Middle East!
and it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates
whoopee there's no reason why
we're all gonna die.
It is very obvious that the 'Military option' IS on the table and that the US military has already run through many different scenario's to what will be done and what the end results would be. Russia will not try to stop the US, nor will China. What are they going to do? Start a nuclear war that ends in the extinction of mankind over one man who is killing his own people?
I still think that the Iran problem will be dealt with before the Syrian problem is dealt with. Time is running out for both problems.
Who thought that a Serb terrorist could start a World War by shooting an Austrian archduke? Once the fighting starts nobody know where it is going.
"The Pentagons New Map" by Thomas Barnett head of US Navy war college... 2004.....
Read this book and you will know what the future holds for the middle east. This stuff is not secret right in plain sight just not reported on like missing white girls.
There is a plan to remake the map of the world and the global economic system... Our government has taken Barnett's advise... I have been watching this all go down.. Arab nations must have barbie on their store shelves and their banking system has to report to the bank of international settlements. No more Muslim loans without interest attached!!!!
After this is completed by what ever means necessary, including war... Republic of Venezuela is next on the list after the the middle east. Read the book and watch the news.........
I wonder if Assad's wife is aware of how the Mussolini couple met their end? Does she realize her husband has condemned her to a near-certain death by execution?
I doubt she is still in Syria. She is probably safe and secure with the loot.
The New York Times has released a video which shows Free Syrian Army rebels trying to use a prisoner as an unwitting suicide bomber, as the BBC's Gordon Corera reports.
I say let Assad stay in power. These are the same people blowing up our troops.
Awright is anyone else tired of our American forces dive bombing on countries all the time? I would not mind so much if there was profit in it but ultimatly the war's America has involved itself in are for people that have always hated America, have no interest in America and offer nothing to America.
Unfortunately, the U.S. contributed to too much killing already while talking about Human Rights at the same time. What hypocricy , what Barbarism !
Bringing the cutthroats from Libya to help the "opposition" just about killed all the bloody propaganda. People may be stupid and brainwashed , but when they see such a contradiction they begin to wonder.
David Feaster,
quote-
"I think you would see a marked improvement in the world if the US would quit intervening in the affairs of other countries."
I hope so, but I doubt it very much, either way I live in North America so I wont need too worry.
It won't help and the US citizens will not allow it.
I don't think there is a choice. If there's even a reasonable chance that chemical and biological weapons could fall into the hands of terrorist groups, we will need to take action because you know they WILL be used against the US at some point and thousands tht will die will make the 3000 from 911 seem inconsequential. But we should also engage with Russia and China on this because both of terror cells in their countries as well that would use the same weapons - so it's in the interest of all to secure the weapons and make sure they do not fall into the wrong hands.
Absolutely 100% no - we should NOT get involved. It is none of our business plus once we get involved and the dust settles both sides will turn on us because they will point to us as the bad guys. The ones who caused all the loss of life and collateral damage in their country-fact
Assad's weapons have been on the shelves for years, why are they an issue now? He has never threatened us with them. They are set aside in case Israel comes across his border. They are for invaders. Sort of like the gun you keep in your closet.
bob,
I totally agree, always gets turned on us,
Are youy sh****** me? Another futile, negative return interventionist cluster ****? Syria, like Iraq, like Afghanistan, like any Muslim countryin the Middle East and Africa (including our "ally" Saudia Arabia) is not worth ONE dollar, or one ounce of American blood. These people despise us, and if/when able to reach into our homeland to inflict terror will do it in a heartbeat. I'm a Vietnam vet, and every time one of our dumb *** politicians (Rumsfeld, McCain, Hillary, Barry Soetoro, etc.) tell us "this is not Vietnam", every vet I know looks at each other and says, you're right, this is MUCH WORSE than Vietnam! After killing 1 million Vietnamese and devastating their country, how many Vietnamese terrorist attacks have we absorbed? Can America stop being naive and stupid just once in my remaining lifetime? Please!
2 countries we need to change the landscape – Iran and Syria – i'd say drop the bombs.....
The U.S. is NOT the world's police force. When will Americans, particularily the neo-CONS, understand this?
NATO and/or the United Nations are where internal conflicts such as these should go for resolution, either via sanctions or, should they deem this a situation for intervention, direct coalition military intervention.
Is this isolationism? No, not at all. It's global cooperation, a concept that emerged after the end of WWII.
Why would NATO be involved in this? And the UN has proven incapable of dealing with things like this. I'm not saying the US should or shouldn't get involved, I'm not really sure which would come back to hurt us the worst.. but NATO ( which would effectively mean the US ) wasn't designed for this and the UN has proven it isn't capable of handling these things.
It wasn't all that long ago, when they people where out in the street shouting "Death to America". Sure, maybe government thugs made them do it. It comes down to the fact that "freedom isn't free". They need to learn that for themselves.
Those who ask for US intervention in Syria are not aware that we will be the fool who is dragged into a 1200 year old war between two Islamic sects – Sunni & Shia (or "Shiite" as some say). What is especially ironic is that we seem to be siding with oil rich despotic Sunni monarchies (that make it a crime to build a church) against a secular regime in Syria that is supported by all the minorities (Alwaites, Shias, Christians, Kurds, Armenians, etc.) against a potentially tyrannical Sunni majority with an Al-Qaida backbone..
who would we support? The dictator or Al-Quaeda?
Officially NO. CIA and MI6 already are doing a good job…
To H with all muslims, let them kill each other rather than kill Westerners.
The Syrian uprising is a step at attacking Iran. Intervention on the basis of humanitarian concerns is the height of hypocrisy. After the US steps in many more people will be killed and injured. The news people will just not report on it. If the Russians decide to step in to counter the US then a lot of Americans will be included in the casualties.
Syria should handle its own problems, but Iran will not stop interfering and therefore the Sunni nations will continue to supply the rebels and the fighting will continue. Since Syria will not be left alone, and because Iran is actively hostile towards the West, the West as a coalition should provide enough support to force a balance so that the Syrians stop fighting and start talking. As long as Assad and his Army have the upper hand, he will continue to kill his people.
Just say no to intervention – you break it, you buy it.
Absolutely NOT!!! Syria is none of our business. It's time for us to stop butting our noses into everyone's business. Let Syria and their allies sort it out.
No way should the US intervene in Syria. This mess was manufactured by the Russians - let them clean it up.
The rebels in Syria no more than groups of Islamic fundamentals and terrorists (Al-Qaida and Islamic Brothers militia), want to take over power and rule the country by Islamic laws. The Government in Syria is elected by the Syrians and President Assad is very popular and loved among the majority of the Syrians, and the majority of Syrians support the Army operations to clean the country of the terrorists. Israel, US and England, Turkey, France and Germany plus Saudi Arabia and Qatar are funding and equipping and training those terrorists to destroy Syria and kill the innocents for their interests in the region. It is a big shame to support those terrorists because they are same terrorists who killed our innocents Americans in Sep 11.
I personally don't buy that. ANY government or leader that systematically destroys their own nation, regardless of the opposition, who shells entire towns, kills whomever, and leaves the nation on it's knees for the next two decades due to having to pick up the pieces is just a tyrant bent on keeping power for himself at any cost.
Consider that if he is driven out, who picks up the pieces of his and the rebels mess??? The populace who once lived in a modern, thriving society now brought to ruin by both ignorant sides. He's no prize and neither are the rebels...
HE11 NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let the blood thirsty MURDERING MUSLIMS ki11 "THEMSELVES!" They will have to find another country to slaughter people in when this war end! Its been going on in the MUSLIM world for 15 CENTURIES!
United States is a great great country, US government should take care of America and improves the Americans' life they deserve better. And leave the others to take care of their own countries.
I would not like to give my opinion to the once fired zakaria.
As usual he wants to use all the opinions and tell everyone how original he is.
We should support those who love freedom, and fight for it. This is not a choice between doing everything and doing nothing. If you love freedom, if you hate tyranny, then give aid and support to Free Syria.
We should support those who love freedom, and fight for it. This is not a choice between doing everything and doing nothing. If you love freedom, if you hate tyranny, then give aid and support to Free Syria.
The problem with your statement Allahu is that there is no help to give. The United States of America is broke.
The truth that the Syrian don't ask anybody to interfer in their problem but they need a help like no -fly-zone to prevent their civilians from Assad plans. But the truth that every time Mrs. Clinton visits a country neighbor to Syria, she asks do not help the syrian even the Arab Gulf she prevents them for paying a money to the Syrian not to pay weapon but to buy bread and milk for their children. The Syrian case it is an international conspiracy against these people. Why? for the benefit of whom? is a question must be asked. The syrian problem is not only because of russia, china and iran it is bigger and actualy the king of jerusalem nobody can remove him, that is the truth.
If you feel this way, then go and take your entire family to Syria and fight yourself. Just to let you know the rebels have killed a lot more innocent people than the syrian regime did
Has this country finaly learned the lesson of staying out of other countries business? Korea, Vietnam, Iraq...all ended unfavorbaly for the US with a ridiculous death toll for both sides. Please Obama, stay out and let them sort out their own problems. We all know they will just despise us for getting involved anyway.
What about the atrocity committed by the so called rebels. Kofi Annan had a plan, the rebels rejected it. The plan is to lay down the weapons and bring a democratic election. Killing started by the so called rebels, it was a peaceful country; if the rebels wants a different type of a govt. they should have worked with the UN rather than killing people every day. What they all want is power. And there are some countries that enjoy the destruction an support the rebels.
Agreed. I have friends in Syria and they tell me that the rebels are terrorists. They kill children, and then claim gov't troops shot them.
Unless this boils over into Turkey (NATO obligations) or Israel this fight is a Middle East issue and the US needs to stay out. Too many times have we been asked to be the world's police force only to have our troops killed by the very people we were sent in to help.
If Assad attacks Turkey, we should absolutely respond, as a member of the NATO mutual defense pact.
If Turkey attacks Assad...I don't feel any obligation.
Same answer with Israel really. If they're attacked, OK, maybe we should do something. They're not part of NATO though, and offhand I don't think there's a formal mutual defense treaty with them. It's just been unspoken for so long. However, if Israel picks the fight and then calls on us to pitch in, NO. You start it, it's no longer mutual defense. If you start it, have fun with that.
I sense that a false flag will be raised in Turkey this Friday.
This is a very interesting comment to me. Please explain it.
And which troops will we use, Mr. President? Syria will be much worse than Afganistan. The price will be more American dead. Let the Syrians solve their own problems, and use the billions of dollars to develop oil alternatives instead of tanks. I hope we all live to see the day when the middle east's major export is sand.
The USA needs to follow the Golden Rule, which does not say that those with the gold make the rules. Just as We The People would rise up with furious rage against any foreign mercenary terrorists trying to overthrow our elected government so do the Syrian people against these heavily armed imported terrorists masquerading as rebels. Clean up the CIA and take on the real enemy of peace, justice and democracy in the Middle East, namely Zionism.
The "Zionists" aren't killing each other.....These guys are, I would assume that is a slightly bigger issue than your hatred of the Jews.
It's Muslim vs Muslim.
Let them deal with it.
Hey, Fareed !.
You're a Muslim.
Why don't you take side?
Please Let's not take religions on the same level as team holiganizm. Shall we. It's rather immature.
Feel bad for them....but where are all the rich Arabs??
If they dont want to help.....why should we.
lets spend the money on Education not war.
Will our intervention make us safer? No.
Will the Syrian people welcome us with open arms and thank us for intervening? No.
Can we really afford another war right now? No.
Are the rebel forces likely to form a responsible and/or friendly regime to the US once they are in power? No.
Is US intervention is likely to be a win/win for both us and the Syrians? No.
Are there tangible rewards to be had for intervening in Syria? No.
Are other countries going to step up and help bear the burden of being the world's Freedom Police? No.
At present, they have exactly what they want from the US, non interference, and look what they have. We don't need to go into a percieved enemy country that never liked us, has damaged us in the past and doesn't want us there now. I'm sorry for the populace, but this is the result of what happens when the world stands by and lets the bad guys have their way cause we might hurt their feelings...
I think the USA should interfer in syria as they did in Iraq, Kuwait, Afganistan, and many more countries that USA invaded. If USA wants to be the world rescuer from those butcher leaders in the middle east, then they should save the syrian people from this choas, and kill the retarded president Al Assad...
Is there enough oil there for us to kill innocent kids for?
Not with my tax dollars.
They can use mine then. I'm sure it'd be of more use than yours.
What should we do? Absolutely nothing! If they want to decapitate and blow each other up then let them do it. Look where our adopted philosophy of altruism has gotten us so far. We do not owe these people anything. And we do not have to feel bad for not helping. America is not the all powerful country many people think it to be. We are skating on thin financial ice. We can not afford another war. We need to fix our own country before we start worrying about anyone else.
I wonder how the US invaded the most wealthy country in the world, Iraq, and the outcome a great dificiency? a question must be asked.
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hindu Romney is nothing else but a hindu ignorant pseudo Jew', criminal self centerd like his hindu sanatan, filthy goon man god's Jew's, filthy self centered, claiming to be a hindu pagan christian, follower of hindu Mithra ism, savior ism labeled as Christianity in hinduism, absurdity to fool humanity.
No one ever existed by the name of Jesus, and son of bless Mary had nothing to do with their hinduism, Christianity, named EASU, anointed one.
Do not elect any of these hindu denier's of truth absolute hindu gentile filthy slave Christian's of hindu Jew's., criminal self centered, they will do nothing for people of America, but use every way to make American's,and rest of the humanity gentiles, slave of hindu Jew's, filthy self centered, enemies of truth absolute. Romney does not qualify to be called American by his hindu pagan faith, criminal belief, let alone make him a president of USA.
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no, let syria take care of itself
I traveled to Syria in the late 90s. Having been to countries all over the world, I still have never met nicer and more welcoming people in my life. Store owners would invite me to have tea in their shops and not try to sell me anything. I was invited into people's homes and fed wonderful meals. To see this country in a civil war is absolutely heartbreaking. I think that America need to convince Turkey to spearhead a coalition of Muslim countries to support the rebels in their overthrow of the Assad regime. America's role in this should be to provide any logistical, intelligence and tactical support that such a coalition would need to accomplish its goals. It should be Muslims not Americans that risk their lives to stop the barbaric acts of the Assad regime. It should be Muslims, not Americans that spend the money to rebuild the country after Assad is overthrown. The Muslim world can not condemn Israel each time it exercises its right to defend itself and yet sit idly as Assad commits atrocities against Muslims of the like that hasn't been seen since Saddam Hussein's reign of terror against Shiites and Kurds. The Syrians are good people. Everyday the Assad regime is permitted to murder its own people, more blood will be on the hands of people who chose not to act. It starts with the American diplomatic corps convincing the Muslim world to commit their resources to stop the bloodshed of their Muslim brothers and sisters. Everyday action is not taken means more blood on the hands of those have chosen to ignore the plight of the innocent civilians who are being cut down every day their own countrymen. I am an American Jew, and it troubles me to see the world watch these atrocities take place on an everyday basis. Innocent civlilains, whether they are Muslim, Christian, Buddist, Hindu or Jewish don't deserve to be treated in this barbaric manner. How many more refugees need to flow into Syria's neighboring countries before we stop coming up with reasons not to act? 2,000, 000? 4,000,000? One must ask, how many more people have to die before we stop coming up with reasons not to act? 100,000? 200,000? Will we as world citizens be proud if it takes those who we elect to power 100,000 to 200,000 deaths in Syria before we get serious about finding a solution? Let us all pray that this crisis can be ended before once again the world watches another genocide take place.
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The whole world is decrying the killing going on in Syria. Yet, it is surrounded by other Islamic countries who are doing...nothing.
The fact is that no other Islamic countries are going to intervene because they would do so in support of Assad – who is one of their own. Just another dictator. And the world would not look favorably on this. So, they sit idle and get the west to take care of business.
So, let's do this...stay the phk out. And furthermore, let's get the phk out of the middle east entirely, start drilling here in the U.S., develop alternative energy, and cut off the those desert dictators. Let them wallow in their midieval cult of a religion, which is why they will never know peace and freedom in the middle east. Islam is not compatible with freedom and peace.
Right now the only reason we are in the middle east is because the Muslims use oil as a bargaining chip. They get us to send in our young military personnel and blow our TAXPAYER dollars to clean up their messes because they know they can. It all stops now.
Stay out and get out of all the middle east, and stop allowing them to enter the U.S.
They have built their sand castles, let them live in them.
I believe the problem is Syria UN. Although he died more than 20,000 people wars should have UN approval but the U.S. could worsen relations with China and Russia. But it seems that Russia is kind of accepting. It is difficult consensus around the UN security council but it is better than the U.S. come alone. The problem can also affect Syria's relations with Iran Maybe Obama is waiting to see whether the elections wins the elections first. I doubt an intervention in Iran or Syria before the end of the elections.
We are spending billions of TAX dollars in afghanistan and iraq. our economy is barely standing on its own feet. we had the worse experience in iraq, we are losing soldiers on daily basis in afghanistan. Do you want to send more troops to Syria? where is the democracy if %90 of readers that reflect the american citizen point of view,don't want involvement in syria? saudi arabia pushing Al qaeda and islamic fanatic fighters into syria that has a huge stock pile of Chemical weapons. something doesn't feel right here. leave syria alone.
U.S. should absolutely not get involved in Syria or anywhere in the Middle East....actually anywhere else! Let those folks settle their own problems! Let everyone else pay for their own wars and revolutions and let their own boys be the ones dying on the front lines! Bring all American troops home to secure our own borders and take care of our own country!
glad our forefathers didn't say that about Hitler.
the same old history , and why american have nothing to do with the fanatics muslim killed themselves , the jews start lynch some palestinian , they sing this song dead to the arabs , and nobody same the U.S. has to do something , let that all fanatics middle east play with the lady dead , they love that game
we have no money, broke, busted, pennyless. what is hard about understandng that
your alive and your children are safe. your not being shot at while trying to find food. what if the shoe was on your foot would you want help?
does not change the fact there is no money by one single cent
Late on Wednesday, the office of the UK's prime minister said David Cameron had agreed in a telephone call with Mr Obama that the use or threat of chemical weapons was "completely unacceptable and would force them to revisit their approach so far" From the BBC
It is a mute point. The basis for direct military intervention is already being orchestrated under the same fear technique used by Bush and Blair. They are determined for regime change and the use of al-quaeda and sunni forces won't be enough to accomplish it.
The guys have noticed that Syria has got chemical weapons! They suddenly came to realization that the "freedom fighters" they were supporting all that time may get their hands on it eventually! They may even have it already! Whoa! No wonder they make these urgent calls and are trying to figure out what to do and how it affects their position.
Hm... I somehow expected better from them! The issue was mentioned more than once and months before: they should have figured it in their strategy! That is a bit scary: isn't it?
No. Do not intervene. Do not intervene in ANY civil war? Who intervened in our civil war? If the country doesn't like Assad's rule, they will band together, no matter the cost, and usurp him. We'll get a gov't after the fact reflective of the overall people's desire for what type of gov't they want. If that gov't is pro-america, so be it. If not, so be it as well. Nation building is something we should never have gotten involved in, contrary to what the media is bludgeoning us with nightly with reports and op-ed's, is wrong. The world is not ran by any one country, even though the globalists would have and want you to believe differently.
So if the violence is spilling over in to Jordan and killing innocent kids nothing should be done about it?? just ignore it? Or how about if it spills into Lebanon and starts their civil war , still nothing?? Or maybe if it triggers Hezbollah to launch an assault on Israel? Still nothing?? How long are people going to ignore the slaughter in Syria?
There are killings everywhere. Every minute of our civilization. Allow time and diplomacy, and perhaps sanctions to work if we are to pick sides. Different people have different ideas. Let them sort it out themselves. The other nations are wise as they are waiting for us to involve to spend our dollars and lives. Our neighborhood is not on fire, let those closer to it fire or contain the fire. Bottom line, mine our f**************ing business.
Syria and the syrians are capable of taking care of themselves. Keep out.
isolationism
American should get involved in Syria war on ground,so the Syrian feeling toward US will be felt.
[Attacking on 3 ugly statues and justice ]
In 2040 a nice memorial hall will be built in Libya for commemorating Gaddafi – National hero of Libya. Of course, at that time China's GDP, military and trade are all bigger than the US.
"Three small ugly statues" will kneel down to the great statue of Gaddafi. The ugly statues are Barack Obama (or Hilary Clinton), Nicolas Sarkozy and David Cameron. One million of Libyan children will come here paying respect to their national hero – Gaddafi; and using rods to attack the three ugly statues.
The US uses lies (weapons of mass destruction) to murder 100,000 innocent Iraqi Muslims and 4500 US soldiers; the US military violence also kills lots of innocent civilians in Libya, Afghanistan Pakistan and Syria. The apology and compensation both have not done. Thus the US is worst country on violating human right in the 21st century. Now the US wants to murder other 100,000 innocent Muslims?
In the whole Arabic world as I know, no one felt sorry for Gaddafi. China is a third world country no matter what. one day the Arabic Spring will move to China; they make people work as slaves u cant have mor ethan one kid; u cant move from one city to another no election....UNTIL WHEN?
You know what, your words looks like a baby talk, so, you have to try to make Democracy work in your house, and you see how much is difficult to do it to the world.
THANKS
DWG
Please for once don't let Israel dicated your way.You would just embarased yourself once more.Mind your own buisness for once.Please the worl is begging you.It's a Arab problem let them deal with it.
Keep away, IT IS NOT OUR FIGHT. There are Salafi radicals among those Sunni rebels, Sharia proposers and even AlQaeda affiliates and we have learned painfully how that sort of thing ends.
Let them sort it out among themselves.
yes please intervene I honestly don't give a rat's a__ who does it. If the U.S. invades Syria nothing the American people will do about it, protesting isn't going to do a damn thing. A draft will be the only way American people will stop these wars.
saving lives of innocent women and children is a better reason to go to war then oil and big corporate investments. i'm for all humanitarian reason to help the suffering of the syrian people
The ones who are saying "keep out of it", "keep away" were the ones who were gung ho about the Iraq war. Come on...You aren't fighting in it, why should it bother you? The U.S. military is trained for this. They want to fight in it. It doesn't matter to me if it's the U.S., Tukrey, Israel or Jordan who goes in as long as some one stops this mad man, it's ok to take out Saddam? Gadaffi? But not Assad?? I think Assad is way worse than all of those dictators.
That's called learning from your mistakes.
The United States has no business in Syria. Our involvement in this war will only anger Russia and China. China has already stopped buying our debt with the economy being the way it is. Who the hell is going to pay for a US war against Russia and China? Our country is broke! We need to start making sound financial decisions as well as sound security decisions. Why does the U.S. have to be involved? Let Russia and China deal with them if they are so hung up on voting against any actions in regard to Syria. Its thier problem not ours. Only time our Nation should be involved is if there is a direct Treat to our nation. We should not be amassing debt that we have no means of paying back. A financial collapse will make this countrys military about as effective as a 3rd world country militant group. America is not what it use to be. How many patriots are actually out there because they bleed red, white, and blue? The money goes, so does the military. We need to stop being so foolish. Diplomacy is a good option. There is always a time to draw a line but that is when something directly affects us. until then we should stay right here.
They murdered 284 United States Marines in Lebanon in 1980 with a truck bomb. They engage in terrorism, threaten Israel and are allied with Iran. As far as I'm concerned they can go to hell.
In spite of what many wish to believe, nothing happens in a vacuum, and our actions have consequences.This was not our first military intervention in Lebanon. Prior to the attack on the Marines, there had been US battleships shelling villages in the hills and there may even have been some airstrikes. President Reagan placed the Marines in an extremely vulnerable position at the airport because he, like so many Americans, assumed that we could take sides in a conflict, inflict casualties on one faction or another, and then claim some form of immunity as a neutral referee in the conflict. We haven't learned much since then.
US should participate with NATO in establishing a no-fly zone over Syria and striking down any Syrian aircraft that violate it. This should be done to protect civilian life and to give the people a fighting chance, same as we did in Libya and Egypt. Russia has no legal or moral authority here. They received blood money for helicopter and anti-aircraft missile sales to Syria, attempting to profit on human misery. While clamoring for international law, they violate all international standards of human behavior from imprisoning rock bands to poisoning KGB dissidents living in the UK and assassinating their own journalists.
More phony self-serving moralizing from the interventionist factions in the West. The same people who spent decades preaching non violence "solutions" to Africans suffering under the yoke of Western oppressors can't wait to use violence in places like Libya or Syria to aid so-called freedom fighters, shadowy groups which just happen to oppose regimes whom the West doesn't like. What's to stop the allies of the Assad regime from arming it and and providing it with intel to counter whatever the West does in that country? Why wouldn't they update Assad's anti-aricraft systems just enough to cancel out any air support the West provides to the insurgents? If the insurgents eventually triumph, what will the West do if they chose to govern or pursue foreign policies in ways with which the West does not agree? Back insurgency 2.0 to remove the new government? And, if that fails, back insurgency 3.0? Far too many people in the West have the corrupt ghetto cop mentality when it comes to managing international affairs.
Keyser, how many people(innocent) have U.S. Marines slaughtered or purposely killed on rampages in Iraq?? U.S. Soldiers are not INNOCENT!!!! They are terrorists themselves at times.
thats why they had to create laws in the country (and Afghan) that indicated americans can do pretty much whatever they want and pay no price.
Is this a trick question?
It's easy to scream "stay out of it" sitting behind a computer. How bout finding a solution to end the violence?? Diplomacy is failing, when that happens, military intervention is usually the solution. Be realistic.
if you don't confront the killing of innocent people in the city ,state, or nation next to you... don't be surprised when it comes to your neighborhood, street and home. I would rather die to help a child then fill the pockets of the rich corporate oil ceo
If you are talking about Mexico, then an appropriate response would be a team of special ops led by retired general Mccrystal. STFOOS ....
Funny how most of you saying that stay out of Syria were the ones who were gung ho about Iraq.. I see no difference.
difference was is their home and off duty now – and realized war isn't a video game on nintendo
Um, duh, that wasn't my point. My point being that just because Assad has Iran and Russia allies shouldn't stop other countries from Intervening. If your suburb(or mom's basement) was being bombarded on a daily basis I think you'd want help and want someone to stop the bombing no??
As a retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel, I believe it's not a matter of what we want; Syria hasn't been in our world side of things for as long as i can remember; always in old Soviet (now Russia) camp. Both China and Russia are looking bad on world stage for allowing this, voting in UN against us and western world. There r 4 elements to a nations power- known as DIME. Diplomatic, Informational, Military and Economic. In this case, i recommend using 3 of the 4 as much as possible; and as horrible as our modern media makes us feel, remember, civil wars can and do get ugly, remember one in 1860's. Imagine if modern media told us daily of confederate prison camp Andersonville, GA conditions every day. By the way, I was always against going to Iraq. Good luck my friend.
GOPS take – whatever happens, claim you would have done the opposite and tell the world how righteous you are for that decision.
so the answer to ending violence is more violence? Thats real logical, If you believe that the U.S. gets involved in wars because they are losing sleep at night over the injustices in the world than you crazy. The U.S. like every other nation only operates on thier own interests. Do I think innocent people should be slaughtered? of course I dont! However, that is war. Be fortunate you have never had to live through what these people have lived through. You want to be war mongers and you will suffer the same fate when nations who have the capabilities to lauch such an attack on U.S. soil do. I also dont recall anyone helping america in its revolution against Britian. oh wait that was a time where people only worried about thier own interests. we have really evolved here.
So ignoring the problem is more violence? Kind of a double edge sword eh?
Agreed, but every injustice is not our responsibility. I believe diplomacy should be used with the other nations so it does not result in more war or war on a larger scale.
I can't believe so many countries are ignoring the problem and letting more violence continue, sometimes the only way to combat violence is with violence. Whether the U.S. goes in , is not my decision, and I don't feel sorry for our US Soldiers who die in combat, that's what they do.
One nuke will stop all violence in the mid east. remember Hiroshima, Nagasaki?? Yeah war ened. No more terrorism after one bomb nuclear bomb.
As a NATO member yes we should help but not as a US led police force. let eastern Europe, Middle East and indo China take care of this mess
Regardless of what anybody wants, based on our government's recent decision making, somebody is going to FIND a reason to intervene in syria. why? because powerful people profit from war. liberating iraq wasn't our problem, neither was sending special forces to hunt down Kony, we also didn't need to send troops to cambodia in the past, or even go to vietnam...well not to the extent that we did anyway. To my knowledge, at it's core Vietnam was a civil war before we stepped in. Syria is simply the next Vietnam...they just gotta find that good reason to put boots on the ground
How do you suppose that these peaceful protesters got the weapons they are using? The United States has no business interfering in the internal affairs of Syria. The United States has nothing to gain by interfering in Syria. The Syrian people have historically been anti=American.
It seems to me that everyone is comparing Syria to Iraq and AFghanistan and Libya. To start, Syria is not Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya. It is a completely unique situation. It may share similarities but it is never exactly the same. I personally think that most of you all aren't quite doing the research at all. You are all speaking from your selfish desires. "Let's take care of ourselves because we have a million and one problems and they should shoot each other out because they don't give a damn about us anyway." Yes, America has it's problems, but as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, and of the global community, we, as a country, do have a "responsibility to protect" as indicated in one of the UN Charters. There is a conflict going on and it must stop because people are dying on a large scale. Just imagine if you were in a Syrian's shoes today. If you were stuck in a war-torn country being repressed by a brutal dictator and the world sat and did nothing, especially America, a country known to pride in its freedoms. The Syrians have no freedoms right now. They are being shot to death in the streets and desperately trying to stay alive and fight back with what they can. But no, us Americans don't want to intervene because we don't know what war is like. We rather sit in our homes, grow fat, work, and moan and groan about how we don't have the latest iPhone. How selfish when the average American family is richer than 60% of the world. If you don't have a new 55 inch plasma TV, you cry about the economy and how our country is messed up. Look at Syria and what they're crying about. America, suck up your childish desires and learn how the world suffers. Wait, I forgot. America doesn't want to because we're to saturated in our own selfish desires and motives. I guess we like having regimes kill people.
As a retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel, i respectfully respond with; yes, we are on UN Security council, along with Russia and China- who have been the camp Syria has been with for as long as i can remember. They voted stay out, and clearly told us (U.S.) hands off. Now, US can use diplomacy, media, economic means of power if wants, but I believe needs to keep the military element of power off the table. Not a matter of not my fight, it's a matter of it CAN'T be our fight. We are not invited nor allowed into this one. UN walked away and quit this one. It's up to the Syrian people now, and they seem to b doing rather well, civil wars get bloody, remember one around 1860's . We all feel bad and modern Media doesn't help, imagine modern media covering the Confederate Prison Camp conditions at Andersonville, GA. Good luck my friend.
I have noticed that there have been various articles on the net floating the question of US military intervention in Syria;s civil war, almost as if these were trial balloons to assess the minds of the citizens. Consequently I think it is important to respond with a resounding NO! What is happening to ordinary Syrians caught between the Syrian government and the Rebels is unfortunate, but our intervention is likely to make everything bloodier than it is now. It will also further entangle us in the affairs of other peoples and cultures which we don;t understand well. If the Syrians can;t or wont resolve this civil war between themselves, let nations closer to them help out, have a regional settlement
Stay out. Unless they use chem or bio weapons. That cannot stand for any reason. But IF that happens, our intervention should be limited to striking military targets. NO OCCUPATION. We simply cannot permit them to use bio/chem weapons though, no matter how much you don't want to get involved. In that situation it BECOMES America's business.
There is no reason the Arab world can't handle this problem. The US should work on ending the war in Afganistan, not start a new one.
There is no reason for US to get trapped into another Iraq or Afghanistan war but this time in much worse situation in Syria. Military attack to Syria by foreign intervention will not only be limited to Syria but also whole middleEast and may turn into global disaster. US should stop the old carrot and stick policy and learn from China, India, Russia and many other growing countries on how to stay in power in Today's world which is completely different than 1960s and world war II.
Maybe we can sale our military surplus goods to the rabels.
All I'll say is this. A weak United States is bad for the world.
america should be trying to take over mexico and central/south america! let's work on one side of the globe before we attack the other! Syria and Iran should be trying to war against Russia and China and keeping them off our backs. Seriously people! the other side of the world should be a huge morass of crumbling economies and fumbling militaries ripe for the picking! can we not put a divide between some these countries and take over our squabbling neighbors? our wars far away tend to get drawn out and counterproductive. we've got plenty of close by rabbits and we are trying to go for the longshots!
First, no one should ever mouth off about USA intervention somewhere unless they are prepared to have their mother/father/brother/sister/son/daughter die there.
Second what the chemical weapon warning was intended to communicate is "If you give those weapons away to terrorists/iran – we will attack you." I think i would have to support such an attack.
Third, the problem in supporting the "rebels" is that we would be supporting muslims killing christians – bad politics in any year, let alone an election year. Rebels have clearly stated that they would take revenge on the christian minority - which has always supported, and still does support, the government.
It's so many ideas all into one of their own. The land is confusing. The Sharaha bridge has history from the 17th century of how the syrians have been fighting. Is this all of a sudden something new , or has the internet and especially the over rated social media started an appocoliyps perhaps? Your dammed if you do or dammed if you don't. My opinion is one of many. I feel no one knows the truth. There is so many little things. Religion is at top it seems. What about the christians and the stability. We all know other people from other countrys are going to syria through Turkey , even a while back cnn showed and american going. Look at libya today , egypt. It's a slippery slope , gps !!! thanks
The problem with intervenneing in Syria is that the Chinese and Russians will be really upset, and someone in Syria will say that the US invaded. I do not think it is worth it.
This is a Syrian civil war. It's not the business of anybody else but the Syrian people. No other country has the right to interfere with the politics of a sovereign nation that has not threatened them in any way. Let Syria sort out its own problems. It will be a lose/lose situation if the US or anybody else gets involved.
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Stay out of it, the cost would be worse than our involvement in Afganistan and Iraq combined.
The opposition are same extremists who killed our troops around the middle-east and I don't think our administration would try to fool us and say they didn't know and would be liable for assisting, with our tax money, the terrorists, like giving guns to the Mexican gangs cross the border that killed our guards.
It seems we may have forgotten that this is what we elect Presidents to do. They can have very little effect on the economy and they don't vote on legislation. But they do make very big life and death decisions for the country every now and then. None of us have even 5% of the information we need to have an opinion on on this let alone make a decision. I trust Obama (as I would have trusted McCain) to make this decision for us. That's his job and none of us can do it for him.
Why would you ask me? You know I am co-dependent. Yeah go over there and thump Assad tonight. I hate seeing people killed unnecessarily for the sake of ego.
The same thing the Russians and Chinese are doing: leading from behind.
Perhaps we shouldn't arm rebels like Russia does with the Syrian government (Saudi Arabia and Turkey have that covered) but we need to provide intel and consulting services in addition to working with Turkey to manage the potential refugee crisis.
We should cross referencing our known terrorist list with Rebels that are receiving arms and support from Turkey. Islamist Radicals tend to flock to any destabilized area of the middle east so we need to do our best to help the legitimate Syrian Opposition avoid becoming dominated and defined by such infiltrators.
Farid, The answer to your question lies in the answers to the following questions: What did we want from the world's powers during our revolution? Did anyone help us? What if they didn't?
What goes around comes around and as the Syrian saying goes: "What you give on Saturday you will recieve on Sunday".
America got help from France during the US revolutionary war....
Enemy of my enemy ind of thing there....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War
Russia just sealed an oil deal with Syria. The US should take note and tone down all hostile rhetoric with Syria or Iran. Syria is not Iraq and I believe any US action against Syria may end up with a final confrontation with their big brother. Alliances are being solidified and there is way too much rhetoric about war and no diplomatic negotiations.
29 years ago the country watched a tv movie called "The Day After". I'm starting to see the seeds of what could become the real life version of that movie being played out now.
The rich may have bunkers and tropical Islands to escape to but truthfully life as we know it will cease. People are worried about global warming, try an atmosphere filled with radioactive particles contaminating all forms of life.
Russia is empty threats. Did you not see the disaster that was Georgia. Yeah they won, but not before taking many more casualties than we ever took in Iraq and Afghanistan combined, not to mention their military was completely disorganized and full of conscripts. Even the mighty Spetznas (their equivilent of the Navy Seals) was useless when it came down to the actual fighting. They couldn't afford a war with the U.S., and while it might be costly for us as well we would most definitely crush them in the end. They also wouldn't start throwing around nukes for Syria. Starting a nuclear holocaust for one pathetic country is beyond even Putin's idiocy. Russia is bluffing right now because their scared and they know that eventually the rebels will probably prevail. It's up to us to help the rebels and show the world that we're not afraid of Russia and their emptry threats and that we are willing to step up to the plate like we did in Lybia and help out these oppressed people.
Америке пора перестать тыкать свой нос во все мировые дела. Она уже заслужила позицию "мы везде, мы всегда, нам везде до всего есть дело". Вы смешны.
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We should definitely get involved in Syria because that's what it means to be a world power. It doesn't have to involve physically sending troops over to Syria. We have cruise missiles and can provide fire support for the rebels. We can also use our fighters to provide close air support for the rebels as well as neutralizing Syria's air support. All of that can be done without setting a single boot on the ground and with minimal cost to the goverment and it would be instrumental in helping the Syrian rebels to defeat the evil regime that's in there now. As for Russia, I think Obama needs to tell Putin to shove it and that we're not gonna sit by and watch the rebels get slaughtered and do nothing. Russia is nothing but empty threats anyway and Putin is just mad that Russia is not important on the world stage anymore. Anyone who paid attention to Russia's blunder in Georgia will know that Russia is not prepared for any kind of prolonged war of any sort, especially with the most powerful country on the planet. It's also not likely Russia is gonna start lobbing nukes at us and create a nuclear holocaust over Syria. I say we should get involved in Syria and at least provide support for the rebels.
Syria is a strategic point for Russia as Israel is for USA. Russia strongly believes that the fall of Syria is a major threat to their national security. Russia has already threatened us with nuclear attack. Do not take these threats litely. When you surrender a cat at the corner it will eventually scratch you! Russia may not be as strong as it did before, but it has more nukes then we do to attack us.
You are talking crap Gomez. You are from Israel and pushing its propaganda.
I agree. That's how you kick Iran out from Syria.
There is nothing there worth one american life. Just like Iraq.
stay out of this hornets nest ! US involvement will make things only worse: Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon, Hezbollah, Al Qaida et tutti quanti are just waiting to drag US/Europe into this morass. What if they retaliate in American or European cities ? The islamic 5th column is already in place in many European towns...
Even though the tragedy of Syria is very sad an unfortunate, the US should not intervene militarily in the region anymore. First of all we don't have any more money to be wasting and second China and Russia have made it very clear that they won't tolerate US military intervention. This could be very incendiary and cause a world-wide conflict.
Before we intervene in Syria do we know whom are we supporting? Assad may be a dictator, but do we know the fact hat he has a wide support amongst the Syrian people. If he did not have enough support he wouldn't have survived so far.
Yes the Syrian regime has killed many civilians, but what about the rebels. In cities like Homs, Allepo and others the rebels have committed genocide in thousands against Christians, Alewites, and Syrian regime supporters. They have killed men, elders, women, and even children. Check youtube you will find clips showing off rebels chopping off men's heads off with saws while they were cuffed simply because they supported Assad.
The rebels do not want democracy, but rather want Islam to rule by the sword. They want to send Christian Syrians to Beirut, and send the Alawites to the tombs.
Who are the rebels? They are Al-Quaida, Fateh Islam, Muslim brothers, and muslim radicals. Remember Al-Quaida is responsible for thousands of Americans death. So people the politicians in America are brain washing us. We need to wake up and know whom we are voting for in the next election. Any warmonger politician should be voted out.
"Onward Christian soldier...marching off to war!" We're coming to save ya Sinbad.
Unless there is some NATO coalition with the support of China and Russia there is no use getting involved in this civil war. My heart goes out to the people of Syria but this appears to be a civil war only they can resolve. We already have two wars which have not been paid for and we can not afford another especially with the results of Iraq and Afghanistan. What results did we really get for the trillions of dollars spent on these wars? Not much.
We have no business getting involved in Syria. This is their fight, not ours. We need to learn to keep our noses out of other nations affairs. Getting involved will only get us deeper in debt, create new enemys and cost us more lives. Just my 2 cents.
Быть может, это огромный секрет для всей Америки, но ВСЕ СТРАНЫ уже устали от того, что США всё время лезет в чужие дела. Об этом в России уже немало шуток
America should stay out of Syria. We are not the "World Police"
Actually, we should intervene in Yemen, where a dictator left and the new leader was the only one on the ballot with the support of America. So the people are rebelling again and we are supporting the new dictator. Same as in Bahrain. Quit the we support democracy retoric it doesn't fly in the face of these other countries.
we cant afford war people....the country is redline broke.
We should stay out of Syria – the world is waiting for us to solve it. Lets face it we are broke, our economy is in the
toilet. Bin Laden predicted he would destroy our economy but the morons in Washington thought they knew better.
Bin Laden is dead BFD there are thousands of others waiting to take his place, we have accomplished nothing. Iraq
is a cesspool waiting to explode – Afganistan is another loser, when we leave it too will explode. Muslims love killing,
lets face the facts they are uneducated idiots hellbent on destroying everything. Islam is a failed religion full of hate.
We are the baddest mothafvcker on the block and I for one want to keep it that way.
Why do people always say the military is "defending the freedom of Americans' when all we see is that they are doing nothing about are freedom. If they really were, they would be here in the US protecting the US from any invasion and not going out disrupting and interfering with other peoples issues.
Leave Syria to sort it out themselves. The US I'm sure wouldn't be too happy if we were say at war with Mexico or Canada and all the other countries in the world came over here to intervene. So we need to back the hell off, realize we have no right there and for once actually do what the military says, "Protect our Freedom" and the only way is to have them here to protect our own borders, not someone eles's...
Anyone remember Somalia?
If the opposition can show that it is unified, possesses no large terrorist sects, and desires western intervention, then we should use the same approach as we did with Libya where a collaborative effort was executed without using ground troops.
No.
Adherence to international law is the solution. Interferance by a few countries in the internal structure of another countries problems will only lead to even bigger conflict and more deaths. Example: Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.
Weapons should be taken away from "all" the countries in the world and we should have "One" police force made up of people from every country in the world. No one in that international police force should have a veto. No one in that international police force should have more power than anyone else.
This is the only road map to peace.
I doubt we are civilized enough to ever put it in place.
The UN is a hopeless organization and is grossly unfair as an organization and does not represent fairness. It benefits only the powerful countries and needs to be torn apart at the seams.
Thank you. These are my opinions only.
yes usa must attack now those evil syrian and hizboallah are the evil arms of iran so we can focus later on iran and finish them before it is too late, those are mini hitlers pure evil.
USA , UK, FRANCE AND NATO MUST GIVE UNMAN PLANES, HEAVEY WEAPONS JUST AS THEY DID IN AFGANISTAN , AND THE WAY FROM TURKEY ALSO MUST HELP THE IRAQI SUNNI AND THE SYRIAN KURDS TO FIGHT AND GET RED OF BASHAR, WE MUST ASK THE IRAQI SHIIA THUGS NOT TO HELP SYRIAN EVIL GOVERNEMNT. IRAN AND RUSSIA IS IN CONTROL AND WE MUST NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN EVIL HELPING EVIL AND WE ARE ON THE SIDE WATCHING, REMEMBER HITLER................It is not too late we can get red of bashar al kaklb along with hizboallah the terrorirsts and capture nasrallah as he is wanted by the FBI.al asad must be hangged.we must cut the economic relationship with russia all the 1 billion muslim must not buy any russian or chinese goods.
Do you really think Canada should do all of this?
Russian Military Expert: US Responsible for Victims in Syria
Director of the Russian Center for Analyzing World Arms Trade, Igor Korotchenko said that the US is responsible for the victims and suffering in Syria, as it has supported the opposition and armed groups there and rejects a solution to the crisis.
In an interview with Russia Today TV on Wednesday, Korotchenko said there are confirmed reports that the US President Barack Obama signed a memo that allows the US forces to support the opposition and armed groups in Syria, which proves the US does not want a solution to the crisis.
He indicated that al-Qaeda organization is fighting alongside the armed opposition in Syria, adding that the goals of the US and al-Qaeda are the same at this stage.
Korotchenko stressed that the priority now is to dialogue and work to end violence, adding that the Russian position is clear unlike the stances of Western countries which are trying to supply the opposition with weapons.
They should go to war with syria. That way all my defense stocks will rise and shine again.
US should mind its own business and do nothing we can't afford another war.
forget the middle east. let russia and china show their true colors to those middle easteners who think they are better than the USA. they will be crying for our help within five years! pull out and don't let the terrorists hit us on the way out. china/russia alliance can break it's back over their as long as they don't conquer the area. we have no real need to stick our noses in their bizness unless we want to add a few new states. let's conquer MEXICO/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA then aim for the rest of the world.
USA love the Middle East specially the black gold; I am sure USA are helping Syrian; USA love to sell weapons since Saudi and UAE are paying for it. American got so many contracts with Libya when rebels were fighting Gaddafi. For Syria is more interesting since American are looking for a cheap way to kick Iran. U think Turkey; UAE and Saudi are helping Syria without American green light!!!
Another thing this is the only thing that Democrat and Republican agree on; USA should dig in the Middle East no matter what party in power in USA
Nope. For once we should let a middle eastern country figure it out for themselves. Or at least give them a three year period to resolve the issue. Yes, there is fighting and human rights violations occurring, but these things happen all the time. Maybe if they find a way to solve in themselves, it will reduce their tolerance to such violations in the future and we won't even need to consider future interventions. I think that is why you don't see these occurrences in Europe, they endured 2 world wars.
None of our business. If they ask for help we should provide food, medicine, and humanitarian aid. A good neighbor will let you borrow their tools to fix your house but doing the repairs is your own responsibility.
I would support intervention in Syria if:
- No Nation Building is conducted afterward.
- Boatloads of Syrian loot are returned to America and given to its citizens.
Honestly, getting invaded by the US is currently like winning the lottery. I am constantly reminded of 'The Mouse That Roared' – small country invades the US because they know they will receive aid after they surrender.
forget humanitarian aid it will go to feed armies. just step out and let anybody else who thinks they can handle it try. we should not be over there in the first place. help america first and last and we might just outlive all these other countries and be bigger and better for it. our nonaggresive policies are hurting us more than anything.
not worth putting boots on Syrian soil..if this was 200+ years ago and in the business of occupying land by kicking their asses like what the Romans did..then maybe but this is not the case...let's pick a fight with someone worth fighting.
Every time the US intervenes in some middle eastern affair, it does not go well for the US. Why don't we just stay out of this one. If they want to commit mass murder, let the neighboring countries that will feel some of the after effects of the use of biological weapons deal with it. No more US troops in places we really don't give a crap about.
USA gave Iraq to Iran after 2003 by stupidity; need to help to get Syria back from Iran (Syria majority are Sunni). Iran playing too many games; if you want the moullat to fall help Syrian; kick Hezballah from Lebanon; push Iraq to more democracy and the Mollat of Iran will fall down....
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Is that your final answer?
Please!!! Don't mince words.... tell us... what you're really thinking...
One can never reconcile Islam with woman's rights, universal suffrage or Western Democracy.
America has absolutely nothing in common with these woman-stoning Neanderthals. Let the Muslims take out their own trash.
This is not our neighborhood.
You say, "it's not our neighborhood." The problem is that our friend, Israel, lives in that neighborhood. What you appear to suggest is that we throw this bone to the Arab wolves, get our tails between our legs, and run for our lives oblivious to what happens to our friend, refusing to look back to see how he is being devoured!
M.I. allowed to cut n paste others ideas on this forum and pretend like they are my ideas?
Shame on anyone who thinks Syria is none of our business. Most Americans forget that our forebears were also rebels against the British Empire and in our dire hour we asked the French to help us turn the tide. France provided arms and ships to help combat the overwhelming combat machine the British ruled its empire with for over 50 years. Out gunned, under trained and out manned we prevailed with assistance from others. Yes, our purpose was just. Yes, we sacrificed. Yes, we endured harsh winters and overwhelming odds but we did prevail and the Syrian people will prevail. In World War I an American officer spoke the words, "Lafayette we are here." America had repaid a debt to the French for their sacrifice in helping us achieve our Independence and now the World sits on the sidelines and watches genocide. Russia and China will always block efforts to promote democracy and the rule of law because they use heavy handed tactics in their own countries to stifle the urge for freedom and the right to choose. If the United States wants to remain the only superpower in the world then it must be the first to stand up and say enough is enough. Genocide will not be tolerated in the 21st Century now and forever. Then when the one true voice of liberty speaks out a coalition of the willing will take shape because after Syria the United Nations is obsolete. One or two members of the Security Council stopping the will of the International Community is unacceptable. Hitler's greatest boast was that nobody challenged him when he was weak. The World watched Hitler build his army up and told him that is wrong....you shouldnt be doing that. But by the time they got the WILL to act it was already too late. The World was engulfed in another World War. Now we are watching the same events play out in Syria. The more the US and its allies let this Syria thing play out the worst it becomes for all. Lebanon is already feeling the effects of the war and soon it will pull more into the fray. We watched the Balkans consumed in war. We watched the Rwanda genocides. We watched Sudan and the many genocides across Africa. Let us not watch again the horrors brought to people seeking the same basic rights we enjoy in the US: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. "All that is necessary for the triumph of Evil is for good men to do nothing."
Where are the willing in the other Arab countries.....they choose to do nothing to help their brothers in Syria. Yeah, there are a few individuals crossing into Syria of their own accord to fight. But where is the political will to do right?
You are wrong. Who is providing weapons to rebels? Saudi Arabia, UAE and Turkey r helping. American r doing few things for now but not enough!
Son of late Chechen warlord reported killed in Syria
This is no regular civil war. Neither is it for the good of the people. Neither is it supported by the majority of the people.
"The Kurds are emerging as one of the major winners of the crisis in Syria," said Fawaz A. Gerges, director of the Middle East Center at the London School of Economics. "They have begun laying the foundation for an autonomous region like their counterparts in Iraq. It's a dream-like situation for them."
"after rebels took over several neighborhoods."
They came into the neighborhood and set themselves up in houses, hiding behind civilians. The occupants fled or died in the exchange of fire. Would you call these people acting in your best interest?
Also challenged by Fisk's report: the notion presented by Syria's opposition that they are fighting to liberate Aleppo on behalf of eager residents.
While the quotes from the Syrian general himself are largely predictable – towing the line from Assad's regime that the government's enemies are "terrorists" with support and supplies from abroad, seeking to topple the country's rightful leadership, the more revealing information comes from Fisk quoting locals in Aleppo.
"At least a dozen civilians emerged from their homes, retirees in their 70s, shopkeepers and local businessmen with their families and, unaware that a foreign journalist was watching, put their arms round Syrian troops," writes Fisk. "One told me he had stayed in his home as 'foreign' fighters used his courtyard to fire on government soldiers. 'I speak Turkish and most were speaking Turkish but some of the men had long beards and short trousers like the Saudis wear, and had strange Arab accents.'"
The New York Times has released video of rebels from the Free Syrian Army trying to use a prisoner as an unwitting suicide bomber in their attacks on government forces.
These are just some of the headlines and stories. This is an instigated war that has caused a fire now spreading beyond its borders. Assad was very necessary to keep a lid on it.
Two years ago, the people lived together and had futures.
Very good post Dominick. CNN does not discuss issues like: who and why sponsors this war, who's interests it represents. It pretends it is all clear and everybody is already on the same page. CNN simply ignores it and moves over to the next one: "what US should do about Syria..." It sounds like Syria is not even an independent sovereign country any more, but a subject to US will and policy. And it is not even questioned and is only viewed from US own internal prospective...
It is like misleading buy putting forward all the wrong questions: sure nothing new to propaganda textbook, simply skillfully played!
All power to the Kurds! They have a right to live in their own country like everybody else.
I am not sure who to believe. I have read ( CNN.com) of foreign fighters involved. In that case who do you fight. The foreigners ( who Assad claims are the threat ) or Assad ( who is claiming to fight the foreigners ). In Afghanistan and Iraq we have been engaged by foreign fighters as well. Maybe there is some truth to Assad's claims.
It is hard for me to take sides since I do not have all the facts.
Syria problem should be handled by the Middle East Muslim countries. The US must stay out of it. Having US troops in the region could easily stimulate nationalism and religious zeal in the area. Americans are definitely not welcome in the Middle East and Muslims don't like our culture and life style. It will be disastrous for us to get involved in Syria. On top of that, the US is flat broke. We can't keep borrowing money to start another war in Syria. It simply doesn't make any sense.
We need to focus on our own country and quit spending our money and precious lives and limbs of our troops to these foreign places. It's time we bring all our troops home. I don't beleive things will change in Iraq or any other place over there. Let them fight their own wars and we stay out of it. We need to get out of our own debt and focus on the American people for a change.
Its easy to say let them have at it and stay out of it but this conflict concerns everyone. What happens when the entire Middle East is dragged into the conflict? The Saudis are one of our enduring allies in the region due to the dependence of oil from them and Israel is our ally due to geopolitical reasons. Do you think either of these countries will not be affected and history has shown when either has been threatened we have acted. Israel gained alot of their military assets from being able to shop from the US Military catalog before any of the world could ask. The Saudis you already know when Iraq took Kuwait and threatened the Saudi Oil Fields we sprung to action quick. You can trace back all the US military invasions in the last century to three things: Money, Allies and Power. The only kind act that the US did during these times was Somalia, the Balkans and maybe Hurricane Katrina after they let the army have control. Other than that it has been the failed policy of the US to only help when it benefits us or our allies and that is wrong.
Yeah, lets go in again so we can keep troops there for a decade to be shot at by the people they saved.
These people being slaughtered are the same people who were cheering in the streets at 9-11. Their hearts have not changed, they are brought up with the traditions and views of their fathers . We are viewed as infidels..lf they want our help they should unite and ask for it – we should not give help unless we are certain the majority will understand our desire for them to succeed as a free society and that they have realized the intent and false teachings of the evil leaders they have.
JOHNNY YOU ARE PROBABLY 100 % CORRECT. MANY OF THEM CHEER WHEN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER WENT DOWN... OBAMA NO MORE WARS. LET THE ARABS DEAL WITH IT.
Let the Arab League get involved. If we go into Syria with arms then we are the bad guys. If we do nothing we are the bad guys. Let the Arab's help each other first. Saudi Arabia is well armed and financed.
GREG-I AGREE. LET THE ARABS LIKE THE SAUDI RICH___________HELP SYRIA. U.S. STAY THE HELL OUT.
I think its more about our allies. Mainly, Israel. It has been sworn, by these same exact leaders thst Israel would not exsist, and be wiped off the Planet. This, will have to be taken seriously and also a threat to us, our Country, if this is about a Islamic Rule & Law, to change the World into Muslims. This is why they can not hold mass weapons. But, when you see the "Abomination that causes Desolation" run into the mountains and take shelter.
Muslims killing each? Who ever heard of such a thing?
Now that al Qaeda is getting involved, and taking the side of the rebels, maybe Assad will do the world a favor and wipe out the local Syrian branch of al Qaeda. The more dead muslims the better.
The U.S. should support both sides of the Syrian conflict in order to maximize its duration and casualty count. Secretly supporting the al Assad regime, while encouraging Islamic fundamentalists to join the rebels from abroad by showcasing a weak and crumbling state ripe for takeover will ensure that these militant religious zealots have their hands full killing each other instead of plotting attacks against us. If we play it right we can make this last 15-20 years and get rid of a few million of these wackos.
I'm with you on your plan, Butch. I'll be your campaign manager if you run for office.
That is reasonable course of action for America. The problem is that it is totally unacceptable for Israel. Your most strategic and valuable ally is disturbed by possibility of Assad regime handling Syria over to "rebels" with its army still operational (like in Egypt) or with "rebels" getting their hands on Syrian stockpile of chemical/or even biological weapons – or both together... These are all legitimate concerns. The problem is that US military intervention on the ground seems to be the best possible responce. So here we go: CNN ignores US interests and pushes Israeli agenda. Who could have seen this coming! Here goes "American" and "free" mass media'....
I would say NO ONE PENNY... People in this part of the globe will never be our allies, regardless of who we help with taxpayers money or what groups we protect. For them we are a bunch of imperialist, and in the eyes of Alah the evil for humankind... let them kill each other and don't waste my precious taxes in there... I would rather you pay extra money to the Chinese to reduce the debt.
OBAMA IF YOU ARE SMART ?????? YOU WILL STAY OUT OF SYRIA AND IRAN PROBLEMS.. LET ISRAEL FIGHT IRAN, WHY IS ISRAEL PUSHING THE U.S. INTO A FIGHT WITH IRAN ???? WHAT DO WE OWE ISRAEL ???
MR. OBAMA AMERICA IS BROKE–IN DEBT, WE CAN'T AFFORD ANOTHER WAR....BORROW MONEY FROM CHINA FOR ANOTHER WAR ??? NO
We as a country need to stay out of other peoples civil wars. Easy to get into, takes forever to get out of (Viet Nam & Iraq as examples) We need to ensure our national security is maintained and protect our interests, but should refrain from projecting ourselves with the might is right, heavy handed approach we've been using for the last 10 or so years. Libya, Egypt, Syria's internal issues are none of our business and not worth the safety of our troops. Ignore Iran, remove all of their citizens in the U.S. on temp visas, close the embassies in Tehran and Washington, refuse them entry into the US and stop any trade with us, simple. The fact that we can no longer afford to police the world and maintain the cost our own infrastructure without borrowing money should be enough of an argument on its own.
Amen, brother.
Show Washington DC the oil, then we'll show Syria the smart bombs.
Can we all try to remember that the last time the U.S. had a balanced budget was before 9/11, which was an attack by a fanatic group not affiliated with any foreign government. The misguided repercussions from that tragic event are still with us today due to the deficit spending imposed by our misguided leaders. Every time the U.S. has meddled in the affairs of other nations due to a philosophical opinion that we know what is right for them, it has backfired, causing more hatred, deaths, and financial turmoil. The world is not perfect, and neither are we. We need to let other sovereign nations handle their own political difficulties.
We need to take care of America first. Look at the deficit that we have from being involved in two wars at the same time. We are still in Afganistan. Why can't some other country intervene....why does it always need to be America?
We ought stay out of Syria, no one has appointed the USA or any other country world police.
Why is the western countries always want to stick their noses in every part of the world?
Leave Syria alone and do not provide arms to the rebels, if they take power almost sure is going to be worse of what the Syrians have now, it always happens,the Arabs have been fighting each other for centuries much time before the USA become a country, I believe the USA government do not learn from previous experieces, just to mention a couple Vietnam and recently Afghanistan.
So, stay out of there and do not provide arms to the (peaceful protetsers).
Jose Saltos.
Rocheste, NY.
This pole has been going on for three days now. Does Obama have enough input now to make up his mind?
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!!!
STAY OUT OF FOREIGN WARS!!!
US should stay out of this and any other coflict between other countries in the world and concentrate on our economy and well being of American citizens. No wars, no blood shed, no interference in political and cultural affairs of other countries. And most importantly not fighting other countries wars.
No. We cannot force feed democracy to anyone, change must come from within. And it's not really clear if the "rebels" will be any better than the current regime. In fact, they will most likely devide along religious lines and fight among themselves for another thousand years. We need to get to the point where we could care less what happens to countries and populations that hate us and want to wipe us off the face of the earth, I include China in this category. Instead we buy their oil, and cheap throw away crap from Walmart ridiculous.
I think there's enough blood on Obama's hands, let someone else intervene
make jobs, not wars
Make Jobs .. no jokes
Syrians should finish their own war. Then it will be done with once and for all.
Are you serious? Or just seriously uneducated?
bomb the hell out of them
and send them to heaven
NO, officially the U.S is and will not go to war in Syria. This is the American way of showing the world that it's still a top super power, despite Russia and China's military interference in NATO. As for those that know history, the U.S has had many unofficial and internal wars and influences in many nations thus each with it's unique agenda. It's clear China and specially Russia have their own personal agenda and the U.S is not going to let that happen. We also got to keep in mind that Obama is running for re-election and another war may ruin a possible next term. The public is strongly against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan since it's pointless, those people have their own perspective of hatred towards the West. These people will always rise once again and continue to live as if nothing had happen and carry on their own personal war. We got to take in consideration the economic factor the another war will cause in a nation that Democrats nor Republicans cant even agree on a single policy.
Intervention should happen immediately. Here we are, the Democratic Center of the world and we are watching people who are bleeding and dying for democracy while we sit back and do nothing. We complain about thees middle Eastern countries when they do not accept Democracy, and when we do, we are very hesitant to help them.
Let me be clear however, I do not mean boots on the ground; limited interference by drones and similar long range weapons, no vehicles nor soldiers should be ever be deployed. Also, there is the distinct possibility, that behind the Syrian rebels is a dangerous faction of Islam that can cause potential harm to the U.S. and her allies. If this is the case, then I agree with our neutrality in the issue and President Obama's stance.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. They won't end up with a democracy and thinking that they will is folly. Missiles won't accomplish anything. We need to stay out of it and let the Arab League step up.
Rest assured, Russia is involved already. Putin keeps supplying hjs buddy with arms to destroy the rebels. Kill Putin first, then Syrians will be able to sort it out themselves.
Are you from the Puzzi Riot Ekaterina?
If you are looking for WW III then going into Syria the way it is going to happen. I do not want to see one more drop of American blood spilled on foreign soil. This is a Middle East issue, with religious and sectarian implications. Lets let the Syrian people, and its neighbors if need be, stand up and fight. Not my son or daughter. Enough is enough!!
There are some really stupid people posting here. I blame it on the Progressives running our pathetic educational system. No moron left behind.
It is a loose-loose situation. We are between two evils: Dictator who does not care about killing his people and destroying his country and a group who want to go back to what they think is true Islam as it was 1400 years ago. America will loose by not going and by going to Syria. Russia and Iran are already in Syria, and American mighty power is questionable in that area. Obama will not go to war before elections even if 1 million people die in Syria. Obama will not go to war with Iran whether he wins or looses. If Romney wins, Israel will push him to war in Iran. So yes, it is not good vs. bad. It is bad vs. worse. Regardless, good luck with your 401k. Sadly, more innocent people will be killed while world powers fight it cold or hot on Syrian soil. Sad!
There have been civil wars being waged in Africa for 60 years. Those of you saying Obama doesn't want to get involved because its an election year, what about them? Why don't we get involved there? I'm a disabled veteran. I was in the Special Forces and a Ranger. My views of the world have changed considerably since I returned home. I've deployed to Africa and every hotbed we are currently involved in. I know why we are not helping those who need the most help: there is no money in it. Those who make this a political issue should be ashamed. If we really cared about freedom, we would have gone into North Korea many, many years ago. What I came to understand is people that want to be free are willing to die for it. I'm done fighting for freedom. I'm never leaving my reservation again.
Who said USA is helping for freedom?! USA will help bc it's The Middle East full of money; American- Middle East relationship is Yes I love you But I hate you. Saudi can't refuse anything to USA and USA will not refuse anything to USA except Israel problem. I am sure American r helping somehow it’s just not enough I wish that will be a No fly zone by the way no one wants American boots on ground it will give more legitimacy to Bashar; logistic that's what u need and some anti-craft weapons which Saudi and UAE will pay for.
Assad is going to eventually be held accountable for these killings. And I understand that his wife is standing by his side (probably because she is addicted to the lifestyle) but in the end, this is probably going to end in her hanging next to her husband in a very public and humiliating forum. Assad and Alma can not possibly believe that they are going to weather this storm, and that everyone is going to forgive and forget. The list of dictators that believed they would get away with that include Hussein, Ghadafi, etc etc
Assad will be remembered as the Adolf Hitler of our generation.
Stay out of the Middle East.
There are 192 members of the U.N., not counting Syria. We should be the 192nd nation to intervene. We have been the top of the list for far too long. I believe President Obama when he says we are just as great as the other nations, so let them take the lead this time around.
The fact of the matter is that; these people for the most part are anti-USA! Why should we even think about getting into this mess. Once Assad is kicked out, they will still hate our guts because we are friends with Israel and that ain't gonna change. The losers in the end will be Iran and Russia for their continued support for Assad while he kills his own people. Iran is going to be on the short end of the power struggle in this region, so we should just sit back and let them take the back lash!
I've seen this argued over and over for months. It's the wrong question. Why is this always about what the US will or won't do when other nations are more directly affected, know more about the people and won't necessarily be attacked for trying to help? This is an Arab League problem and it is time for them to step up.
What should the U.S. do about Syria?
Not a gawd damned thing
When those people aren't killing each other they're busy hating the U.S..
Why stop a good thing?
I am the same guy. I am a useless piece of camel dung. I post anti-American, anti GB, anti-Semite, anti-India, anti-modern anything because I am a good Moslem. I have stolen Patrick’s moniker because I am so ashamed of myself and I post the most stupid comments because I am an imbecile. When people get angry with me, I claim they are the stupid ones. If I am not careful, my brain will explode because it is so full of hate.
Feel sorry for your alterego
I totally agree with those that say it none of our business and to stay out of it. The U.S. is not the worlds police force or savory for problems that other nations may have unless they threaten us or world stablity. It is the job of the United Nations to place "Peace Keepers" in places where the common people of that nation may need protection from violence. This is not to say that I think the U.N. is anything more effective than the League of Nations was. I do realize we can't become an isolationistic type country but our monies should be used to stabilize our economy and protect our citizens from violence! Thanks for letting me share.
Syria:Two things will happen with the end of this war.
1)Assad moves to Russia
2) Rebels (al quaeda) take hold of government and make plans to attack America and the free world.
Free world where everyone is in debt ??
Just like in Libya and Egypt
we should absolutely stay out of syria. no matter what we do people will hate us. i do not want money that could be spent on education or infrastructure or any other domestic issue wasted on a country full of people that hate america. let these potential suicide bombers kill each other instead of americans.
They will hate you even more when you are weak and ugly and worse part is they will attack you then ... So stay strong and beautiful and don't feel the guilt. Had they been in your shoes they would have done the same or even worse !
For the first time in my lifetime, America is NOT directly (almost everyone is indirectly) involved in policing someone else's war..... and its about time. Funny though is the position that America is in. If they help, they are invaders.... If they don't, everyone is asking for their help. The events in Syria, and America's efforts to stay out of it, have shown how the UN is paralyzed to respond to any situation that doesn's suit the political ambitions of the 5 permanent members.... and it always will. China and Russia want to be players on the world security stage but aren't willing to get their hands dirty. Can't have it both ways. Syria is half a world away from the US. Time to sit back and let everyone else figure this one out.... people may not always appreciate the US getting involved, but at least they aren't afraid of gettin their hands dirty. Not as black and white as everyone thinks, playin Armchair General.
The military option is the only option left. We cannot sit back and watch a supposed leader murder his own people. Just take out the leader and the military will fall.
And make sure this service to the humanity does not get offered free of cost .. there should definitely be a pay off.
I agree...It's good to see that someone else thinks logically. All these USA haters would be crying and BEGGING for some help if this happened in the US. The way I see it is if we CAN help we should, if we CAN'T we shouldn't.
then enlist and do your part.
I suggest we imprison ALL of our leaders who want to go into Syria, and that we support Assad as he erases Muslims and Al Qaeda!
For all you people out there that rather just say screw everyone else and mind our own business, if we listened to you during WWII we'd be speaking German! As a superpower and leaders of this world we are expected to stand up for those who can't. That being said means we make tough choices and at time not the right ones but if we don't act nobody will and those problems will eventually knocking at our door and then it'll be too late.
My friend, The US went to war against Germany after we were attacked in Pearl Harbor.
Obama is doing the right thing. American interest is protecting us from the chemical weapons that Syria has in stock piles. We cannot get involved with the civil war because of Russia. Russia has a port in Syria which may not sound like much but but Russia is very limited on it warm water ports and will do what they deem necessary to protect their interest. We need to be careful on this issue, and just protect American national security.
No the U.S SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED!
Someone telling you that you are honest is almost a shame these days !
Our weak, apologizing, gutless president would never intervene in Syria based on tens of thousands of lives lost as these lives are those of rag heads (AKA sheet-head). But the president gets concerned if Syria threatens to use WMD (i.e. chemical weapons). Obummer was very critical of Bush for worrying about WMD in Iraq. Also Obummer has done nothing to prevent Iran from getting the bomb. Obummer is an unprincipled clod.
Why to lose tens of thousands of lives in Syrian civil war when you can lose hundreds of thousands for no awhile like in Iraq!
Some may call that senseless cruelty, but they do not know what great feeling of satisfaction and all-around superiority it gives! There is nothing like a good war to keep your mind off your home problems! Let's do it again!
Ordinary people are too naive and gentle to decide national interests and the future strategy. People keep out of the way of what leaders have in mind !
I'm not saying go to war or intervene with Syria...but, just ask this, what if this was happening here in the US. Our government killing our families. I think all u negative Nancy's would change your minds a little bit. Say Syria was a "superpower", we would want them to help us if needed. but it's hard to think in someone elses shoes when you are to busy to bump your gumbs about where you live and taking our country for granted.
I may just be a "youngster" as I am only 16 but I, unlike most Americans, actually care about what is looking to be the future of our nation, our economy. I don't take things "straight from the horse's mouth". I like to go more in-depth, to read up on material and form my own opinion accordingly, and whether or not people decide that they like my opinion or they do not is up to them.
America makes its goal to jump in anywhere it can to help for what they call the greater cause and it very well may be the case. America helped Haiti during their time of need, many wars were fought by America for the good of one side. It seems that we are doing nothing more but trying to be the World's Police system. It's fine to help others in need, I am all for it but we need to think of our priorities. We have a nation that is in TRILLIONS of dollars in debt and is still falling in debt, how can we afford to help other countries? We cannot continue borrowing money from China, that's a given. We cannot continue forking out money that we DON'T have and making this country suffer. Obviously, democracy isn't getting things done anymore – if anything we are the farthest from a democracy. The people don't necessarily have a say anymore, I mean the Trespass Bill signed away much of our first amendment rights. What happened to being able to peacefully protest? Now people are getting arrested for protesting even when they are doing no harm to anyone or anything. Where is the Republic that we used to know, where people ACTUALLY had a say? It doesn't seem to matter anymore what we say when we speak out individually because the higher-level people know how lazy we have become when it comes to our country. We are easily manipulated. Until we, as Americans, get off our lazy rear-ends and make a true stand, we don't need to involve ourselves in much at all because we are unstable. It seems correct to prevent any harm to our country and those we hope to protect, and yes it may be in the best interest, but at this time we need to set our own priorities and continue building back a stable economy and a fruitful nation.
Let me remind you that when the US tried to help Haiti they ended up screwing the people more in that country. I followed the situation after the quake very closely and I remember how US military personnel held on to food and medicine supplies in warehouses for weeks simply because they didn't want to go into the neighborhoods without more backup. In the end it was all a huge failure.
A "no-fly" zone in northern Syria is the LEAST we can do for the Syrian people, and it should have been done yesterday!!!!!! We did the right thing in Libya, and just in the nick of time. I'm afraid we've dropped the fricking ball
when it comes to Syria, and all the flapping gums about steering clear because of
the danger of an escalating and protracted civil war, while innocent people die at the hands of this devil, Assad,
just guarantees that will happen! History will judge us, the world, the UN (especially Russia and China), harshly
for what we are witnessing in Syria!
A no-fly zone is a code phrase these days right? Since France has used it to bomb down Libyan army to pieces: everybody keeps talking about "no-fly zone" meaning going in and bombing all and every military target in the region. Nobody thinks about it in the original legitimate meaning. You either I guess.
I doubt they'll fall for the same trick again.
We can't get involved........
They are a different culture, a different way of life and belief!
To many lives lost and most countries in the region are looking the other way, with glances at the USA, to see how we are going to react to the massacre of their own!
Again, a different way of structure a different way of happiness......
It will be what every country is looking for, some one to blame for their own demise as Syria is doing now.
Solution, Give complete responsiblity to the United Nations for the lack of maturity and greed in the face of human distruction, they acted like school children playing a game of pointing fingers.
For whatever reason I felt the need to say what I feel to the world we live, Incapable of reasoning!!!
What more can I say that wont be as stupid as watching and living this F-up times!
THE USA ARE COWARDS FOR NOT GETING INVOLVED.
why aren't you there? look in the mirror before pointing fingers, and you'll see who the real coward is.
So JSA you support the terrorists?
before anyone starts spewing all about how we should intervene in syria, feel free to enlist. and then proudly stand up and say 'I WILL INTERVENE IN SYRIA' instead of saying 'we' should intervene in syria. if you feel so strongly that something needs done, feel free to lead the way.
stay out and do not fund any one. let china and russia sp end there money for a change. all the democrats said to romney russia is on our side and china will not help the people. we have given to many of our service people lives to a ash hole leader say we kill to many of the women and chrilden which they put out front to save there men.
JUST STUPID ADVISE.. AFTER STEALING THE ARAB COUNTRIES OIIL YOU & SELLING THEM YOUR WEAPONS, YOU JUST WANT TO STEP ASIDE & WATCH HOW ASSAD & RUSSIAN & IRANIAN ARE SLAYING THE SYRIAN CHILDREN & WOMEN.. ARE YOU A HUMAN BEING OR MONSTER? YOU STEAL YOUR MONEY & PETROL THE YOU SELL YOUR WEAPONS TO STEAL THE REST OF OUR MONEY.. ISN'T ASSAD IS YOUR ENEMY AS YOU YELLING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME? YOU ARE JUST MURDERERS AS MUCH AS ASSAD & RUSSIAN & IRAN.. DAMN YOU ALL
I do not sense support or even confidence that we can do something to help the poor Syrians but it is a shame that our prisedent came out to assure Assad and Iran that we are not going to do anything!! STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE can not be justified.
There is no easy answer to this question and that's the reality. If we are being practical about the situation then we have the weigh the consequences of both decisions: to intervene militarily or not to intervene. Project a simple cost-benefit analysis of both decisions and let's make a truly educated decision on what we should do.
For me the analysis looks like this: if we don't intervene we run the risk of having yet another failed state, which breeds the sort of extremism that COULD spawn the kind of terrorism we observed 11 years ago or we intervene, crush Assad's mechanized detachments and level the playing field, which would expedite Assad's fall and could cause a power vacuum in the region when we still aren't completely sure who these rebels are. The way I see it intervening still means facing the possibility of yet another failed state in this general area of the world and that is bad for America, but is this mitigated by the certainty of a failed state if we don't intervene? There would be financial and potential military losses if we do intervene, and we are already stretched in both of those areas.
I think we should continue to wait, and continue to provide support to the rebels at this current time as the situation doesn't currently warrant our intervention purely based on what it would cost us right now. We need to rebuild our military and regroup. We need to rebuild our economy, or at least allow it more time to recover, and the rebels seem to be holding their own for the moment. Ultimately this fight must be a victory for them, not for us, and they must take that responsibility into their own hands. Our own history illustrates the difficulty and necessity of taking independence into your own hands, and yes we received assistance from other nations during that time, but the nation we were fighting was the world's "superpower" of the day and so the comparison stops there. I believe it's necessary for people to take their fate into their own hands, and I know there isn't currently a level playing field so maybe we should work to rectify that for the Syrian people by providing weapons and continuing to provide logistical support. What we do know is that ultimately if the current Syrian government appears to pose a significant threat to it's neighbors (chemical and biological weapons) we will move to crush their power in an instant, that's simply a stated fact, and is possible for our military.
There isn't an easy fix to this situation, but there rarely are easy fixes for civil wars.
I don't see how we can justify watching a genocide before our eyes and look the other way. we might as well become part of Russia or China. this is not ok, we cannot stand on the sidelines. we do not have to go in alone. we should call for a no-fly zone and have UN military boots on the ground and not some useless observers! we observed enough.
we are looking spineless more and more everyday. this is not what made this country what it is today. this is not a civil war, this is a tyrant who does not want to leave his inherited palace from his criminal father!!
The U.N. hasn't been able to effectively deal with these situations since it's inception. There is not currently the will or the capability for the U.N. to intervene in Syria. Europe is only concerned about it's own society and it should be as it continues to hemorrhage power over time. The United States has shouldered the burden of military intervention in our own self-interest since World War II, and that is the model we will continue to operate under. This is a sad truth, but is the practical perspective and if we over-extend ourselves we open ourselves to attack. We can't risk that.
I believe Obama so far poof for all the world that the USA is the best cover for the dictators around the world... more than 30,000 Syrian killed in 16 months... 5000 of them were children.. thousand of civilian women... America helps Assad to kill his people literally.. USA & RUSSIAN played the same role to cover Israel & Saddam Hussein & Qaddafi... Same scenario, all the civilized world standing & just watching how Assad is SLAYING Syrian children.. All in front of you in full colors.. I hope your are enjoying these DAILY MASSACRES.. you don't have to wait anymore for Horror movies to be released by Hollywood.. just turn on your TV Channel to Al Jazeera & Al Arabiya & enjoy.... WE ARE ALL MURDERES
It isn't logical to expect us to extend ourselves EVEN MORE beyond our means. The United States has done more to intervene in these conflicts than any other nation around the world. Someone mentioned the fact that we are the world's only superpower and so the responsibility falls to us for interventions in regional conflicts such as this. That rationale basically equates to those who have the ability to do something must then act (referring to situations such as Syria). So every other nation in the world has nothing to offer this situation? Or is it simply that a nations primary objective is to preserve it's own security and prosperity?
NO MY DEAR.. you don't know exactly how your government running the world exactly... CIA is the main supporter to IRAN & SYRIAN.. ISRAEL as well.. you will be really stupid if you believe that you made anything good for other nation, wherever America goes, there are killing & dictators & crimes against humanity.. you want to benefit from our children's blood & wait till the Syrian protesters win this was then you decide to come to sell your product & make your rules.. in secret, america supporting all murderers around the world, on TV something else... what's is America really? PURE EVIL
How do you know this Memo?
AMERICA MUST SUPPORT SYRIAN REVOLUTION IF SHE IS REALLY CARE ABOUT HAVING A GOOD FUTURE IN ALL MIDDLE EAST AREA... EVEN AMERICA ALLIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST DO NOT TRUST OBAMA & THE AMERICANS
I'm not going to pretend either side are the good guys, but I'm rooting for Assad. Assad is brutal by western standards, but I think he's the most modern and secular leader we can expect. I don't understand why people think the rebels will be any better.
This is not true.. what do you know about Syrians? what do you know about Arabs? do you know that all the arab dictators was american's creation?? for example: Saddam Hussein was the best american allies in our region for 20 years, he battled against your 'BIGGEST ENEMY" for 10 years, with your weapons, he battled against Iran, after that, what happens to him? captured & killed by Americans & Ananias.. That "BIGGEST ENEMY' of yours is just a JOKE.. you destroyed Iraq & give it to Iran.. How lovely is that.. who can trust Americans after that? .. this is not politic.. this is crime.. you make the dictators than you said: "this is the best we can get"?.. NO.. this is your best not our best.. if you want to learn something more about Syrians just have some serious reading.. & don't' believe what you see on your TV. Syrian are very tolerant & smart & highly educated people.. but we suffer of this ruling regime for 40 years.. we will win our battle against Iran, Russia, China, Hizbullah.. & YOU
It is your duty and YOUR responsibility to win YOUR war, and you can't dispute the fact that, even in our own self interest, America has intervened more than any other nation to PREVENT bloodshed. We don't have to support Syria by any means whatsoever, in fact, it is cheaper if don't. Then again we get drawn into the debate as to how much intervention not supporting Syria would cost us in the future. If this situation was reversed you would be calculating and methodical in your approach as well. Oh and I have no false perceptions as to what my own country's motivation is in doing the things it does. I understand that we don't intervene purely out of idealism, but should we? Not one country on this entire Earth has ever put it's own interests on the line purely for emotional idealism.
Isn't this a moot question, as we are already aiding the rebels indirectly? The elephant in the room that nobody seems to notice in this conflict is Iran. They have made no secret of allying with the Alawite regime on religious grounds in order to reap regional political benefits. Other regional Sunni powers such as the Saudis and have not hidden their eagerness to support Sunni insurgents in response to Iran's machinations in the region. This situation has the feel of Spain during the civil war in the 1930s. I think the more directly the U.S. gets involved, the more resentful and uncooperative the already inscrutable Iranians will become. We already know how pesky the Iranians are with their IED campaign in Iraq, and we can expect any U.S. forces on the ground to face similar threats, so we will not be sending anyone except intelligence agents to coordiante air strikes. As the situation with Iran is dire with an imminent decision that they face to come to the negotiating table with real concessions or face extensive Israeli airstrikes, I believe that continuing caution and indirect support is the best action. One caveat is that we should not allow the civil war to remain a stalemate that grinds on until Syria becomes an apoclyptic ruin, as that creates the perfect conditions of desperation for radicalism to flourish. We will need to increase our influence to tip the balance if the rebellion seems to stall for too long.
The Assad regime is horrific but as are the Islamists in the FSA. The only way to free the people of Syria is through foreign intervention.
Moreover, such a move would cripple Hezbollah, remove the threat of chemical weapons to Israel and ensure that we have a legitimate Arab ally in the heart of the Middle East.
the real reason for intervention in syria is the natural gas as it becomes more important than oil because of the shoratge in oil supply as a last resort the US is trying to pass a line from qatar ( the world biggest reserve of natural gas ) to go to euorpe and cut the russian gas line that feeds euorpe that line has to go thru syria so how can the US do that simple make president of syria look like a criminal since stupid american watch and belive whatever they watch but they cant watch the other side /the US has spent 221 billion dollar on this operation so far tha t we have to pay as taxes /the 95 % of syrians loves thier president and thier army they dont show us that here if the regime is killing civillians the army would have defected long time ago what the syrian army is fighting is the terrorist that the US brought into syria /syria owns s 300 misslle defense system which is far superior than the patriots they own the sa greyhound (untraceable undetectable ) the have the yakhont which can sink the aircraft carriers in a minute and the have a million and a half of all kind of other rocket /there is no defense system can stop that /every 15 min syria can fire 6000 misslle that is 576000 a day and will still have a million left do you think any country next to syria will be able to stop it answer is no even the s500 that the russian have can only trace 100 target and fire on 20 target at once /576000 missle not rocket coming at you do the math dont forget the russian interest and thier ally china and iran i just hope for us american to be wise and not greedy and let the world be in peace
This is not true.. you are very fat of the real truth.. the real truth that the Syrians are asking for freedom for this corrupted murdering regime, after a very long time of injustice & poverty.. don't you want the other to be free just as you are??? don't double stranded with your judgement, they deserve a better life & they need support without a doubt
when we look at the coin from one side we will not see the other /i am a syrian american and the news that i get its from my cousins that i talked to them over the phone /as far as the the main thing that is happening in the world today if you listen to cnn abc rueters etc they dont want you to know the truth they bring whoever so-called experts and we have to automatically believe them /check the other side of the coin and you will see the truth /a french jornalist named terry methan was in libya before nato bombed them he said that 10 of cnn reporters look like commandos were there along other news agencies got invited to one of gaddaffi generals (usally news crew they need a camera man and a reporter only ) gaddaffi was supposed to be at the party to show the world that all is well in libya gaddaffi arrives at 10:00 and leaves at 12:00 cnn reporters they hand the kids at the party teddy bears as gifts next day even gaddafi did not stay the night at the generals villa nato planes hit the villa provided by the sattallite transmitters embedded in the teddy bears and rockets went straight to the kids bedrooms /with that said the syrian goverment is way too smart to allow cnn dressed up cia s to get into syria /as far as the natural gas line and the war over natural gas i think my friend you need to do more research ......thanks for reading
Who cares about Syria. Let them rot. The military will be blasted by the left if they don't intervene, and then they will be blasted if they do. Let them all kill each other. Same with the all the bs clans in the middle east and Africa. To hell with them. All those "people' combined aren't worth one American soldier.
I don't think that you are a human being..
WHY AMERICA SHOULD HELP SYRIAN PEOPLE GETTING THEIR FREEDOM? VERY SIMPLE TO ANSWER THAT... IF YOU LOOK AT THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM FOR CHILDREN IN SYRIA YOU WILL FIND THEIR BOOKS FULL BY THE HATRED OF AMERICA & ISRAEL.. ASSAD REGIME (SINCE THE FATHER TIME) IS TEACHING SYRIAN PEOPLE HOW TO HATE AMERICANS & EUROPEANS.. EVEN NOW, IN THIS ACTUAL OPEN WAR AGAINST THE REBELS IN SYRIA, THE ASSAD REGEME TEL TO THE SYRIAN & THE RUSSIAN & THE IRANIAN & THE CHINESE THAT THE REBELS ARE SUPPORTED BY AMERICANS & ISRAEL.. WHICH NEVER WAS TRUE.. AT THE SAME TIME, ASSAD TELL THE AMERICANS THAT HE PROTECT ISRAEL FROM AL QAIDA & THE MUSLIM'S PEOPLE, WHICH IS A BIGGER LIE, BECAUSE HE IS THE MAIN SUPPORTER TO HIZBULLAH IN LEBANON.. SO, TO MAKE AN END FOR THIS HATRED TO THE AMERICANS & EUROPEANS FOR THE SYRIANS PEOPLE BRAINS WHICH IS CREATED BY THE SYRIAN REGIME, AMERICA MUST HELP THE SYRIAN REBELS, EVEN IF THEY DON'T ASK FOR THAT HELP..
Muslim children become islamists.
Should the USA intervene in Sryia and help out the Self Proven terrorists? Never and NO NO NO NO ON and NO NO NO and NO.
Iraq was enough and if libya weren't enough look at the mess we created? And also why hasn't shown that BBC deleted video where it shows how the Syrian rebels try to use prisoner for suicide bombing?
you are a lier.,. the prisoners captured by the rebels are all Iranian Soliers & Hizbullah members whom were killing the women & children in a revenge for their protesting against Assad... The people protest for freedom & justice.. Assad killed them by plane fighters, Bombing their cities, slaying their children... do you want these people to die without a fight? do you want them just to obey to their killers commands? there will be a price for their freedom.. they will pay that prcie with or without your support.. DAMN YOU ALL
Here's the reason America cares about Syria:
I've read more than enough and heard more enough to know that the American government has a larger agenda than just supporting the Syrian rebel cause. Sadly, the American government needs a destabilized Syria to stop the production of a $10 billion pipeline involving Russia, China, Iraq, Iran, and Syria. So, with the CIA funding and arming Syrian rebels, the American government really does not care who wins Syria's "civil" (more like proxy) war. As long as chaos and fighting occurs, the pipeline will not meet finish its production by 2016 as proposed. As a result, the US makes the BTC pipeline (which American company, Chevron along with others, owns around 10%) the main supplier of oil giving them a complete monopoly on international oil trade.
Under the disguise of promoting democracy and creating Assad to look like an evil dictator, the government has gained popular support without telling its citizens the whole story. I will not be surprised when Lebanon is considered the next Syria, because Lebanon is also involved in the proposed pipeline. Foreign aid never goes to humanitarian causes so I propose an anti-Imperialist view and pull any taxpayer money that may go to Syria.
a quick search on live leak will show a lot of the sectarian slogs being chanted by the rebels, hundreds if not thousands of ialqaeda fighters whom are fighting the Syrian government in Syria are now not being considered terrorist, we dont hear on CNN or other channels that insugents foreign fighters getting killed but we hear of civilians, we must have super heroes. I want to see who will benefit from this and why mr Obams is supporting Alqaeda
you are another lier.,. There is Qaida in syria, as much as Iranian & Hizbullah Mercenaries who slaughter women and children in retaliation for Bashar al-Assad.. Qaida existence in Syria was the Invention of the american government staff to cover their cooperation and complicity with the criminal regime of Bashar al-Assad.. The syrian poor people will win this war whatsoever american or iranian or russioan will do... FREEDOM FOR SYRIANS PEOPLE... LIFE FOR SYRIAN CHILDREN.. DAMN IRAN & RUSSIA & CHINA
Bla, bla, bla, bla.....Go there and help them. You can share your house with couple of hundred refugies from Syria and help thenm that way. Nobody is stopping you.
AMERICA MUST HELP SYRIAN PEOPLE GETTING THEIR FREEDOM? VERY SIMPLE TO ANSWER THAT...
LOOKING AT THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM FOR CHILDREN IN SYRIA 'I'M SURE YOU DON'T KNOW THAT', YOU WILL FIND THEIR BOOKS FULL BY THE HATRED OF AMERICA & ISRAEL.. ASSAD REGIME (SINCE THE FATHER TIME) IS TEACHING SYRIAN PEOPLE HOW TO HATE AMERICANS & EUROPEANS.. EVEN NOW, IN THIS ACTUAL OPEN WAR AGAINST THE REBELS IN SYRIA, THE ASSAD REGEME TEL TO THE SYRIAN & THE RUSSIAN & THE IRANIAN & THE CHINESE THAT THE REBELS ARE SUPPORTED BY AMERICANS & ISRAEL.. WHICH NEVER WAS TRUE.. AT THE SAME TIME, ASSAD TELL THE AMERICANS THAT HE PROTECT ISRAEL FROM AL QAIDA & THE MUSLIM'S PEOPLE, WHICH IS A BIGGER LIE, BECAUSE HE IS THE MAIN SUPPORTER TO HIZBULLAH IN LEBANON.. SO, TO MAKE AN END FOR THIS HATRED TO THE AMERICANS & EUROPEANS FOR THE SYRIANS PEOPLE BRAINS WHICH IS CREATED BY THE SYRIAN REGIME, AMERICA MUST HELP THE SYRIAN REBELS, EVEN IF THEY DON'T ASK FOR THAT HELP..
If the mainstream media had been reporting truthfully about Syria there could be a case made for intervention. Since that is not the case and, in fact, has never bee the case (if you look objectively at the record) about reporting in the region then, no, there should be no intervention. Several things to think about: 1) the mainstream media stopped reporting about Libya since the fairy tale ending of peace and freedom did not go according to script–rather the country is torn by factional fighting, wandering militias and we know what wandering bands of men with weapons are going to be up to–the story is as old as time; and 2) we would be intervening in an ethnic civil war that has nothing whatever to do with "freedom" and "democracy" that will end badly whether the U.S. intervenes or does not.
Yes,I agree UN and US must help Syria Rebel.If we don't stop the "War.Our plantnent will be destroy.But first we must go to UN first.
99% of Americans DON'T want us anywhere near ANY middle east country and yet the powers that be,for some odd reason,feel they don't have to listen to the country they represent,this usually marks the beginning of the end,LIKE THE ROMANS
We call ourselves democracy but yet support dictators in the Arab world. Why have we not broken any ties with these regimes? Because of oil and Israel, we want peace in the Middle East. That peace has been a forced peace to protect these two and to some extent keep Russia out (formerly USSR, we just hated communism). To do that, we finance regime changes and bring in our puppets into power, provide all military support for their protection as a deterrent to other powers in return for cheap oil. Now that the puppet dictator is in power he can sell oil at a cheap price and fill his own coffers, he also has military power which he can use against his own people while keeping his own people suppressed, by keeping them illiterate, unemployed, poor. These people eventually will revolt. The Syrian case is no different than what has happened elsewhere. When people are suppressed for too long, they revolt. They would rather die in conflict once and for all, than living miserably everyday. They are actually fighting not only their own suppressive Govt. but also the US that they have grown to hate in the Arab world. They should fight their own war. It has happened in Iran, Egypt, Libya and it WILL happen soon in the rest of the Arab world. Who all will we help? By interfering, we will increase the hatred that they already have for us. The rise of Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism is because of our interference in their affairs, regime changes whenever we don't like someone, installing dictators for our own national interest, so that we can control the oil. We try to control the Arab world in every way we can, but expect the people to take lying down. It's time we stay out of it. The down side however is still oil, that's the crux of it. Israel is more than capable of taking care of itself. Let's find our own oil and leave the middle east to itself.
I feel terrible for the people of Syria and I think the US should help them if we choose with non-military aid. I for one think the US is way to involved in the rest of the world's problems which often drag us into conflicts and do little but cost us billions of dollars and the lives of our soldiers with little or nothing to show for it. What conflict since WWII was it essential for the US to get involved in? What were the results? Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya? What did getting involved in these conflicts do for the US but cost billions (If not trillions) of dollars and tens of thousand of American lives? Just remember this...we drove back the Taliban and now are "supportiing" the Afghan government against them while we are preparing to eventually leave (I'll believe that when I see it). The Syrian rebels want our money and weopons but don't want any part of US boots on their ground. So if we go in anyway, we will help them sack Assad's regime and if we don't leave, they will turn on us and we will be fighting them. Not to mention Russia, China, Iran, and who knows how many other will then intervene against us. Lose-Lose situation for US.
How can you stop something when people get it into their heads that God told them to do it as people are told if you here it from God than you need to act on it . Is it actually God telling them to do it or is it their own mind telling them to do it ? How do people know the difference if they are told if you here a voice in your head it is God ? Telling people that here voices that it is God telling them what to do just might not be the best idea religion ever came up with ! I know If I here a voice in my head it is just me talking to myself so I know if my mind tells me to do something , I will have to pay the consequences .
The answer is very simple: Russian bear is back, and stronger than ever, so the era of US and NATO intervention against third world countries with nonexistent air defense is over. Syria has purcased decent Russian air defense sytems and they have Russian millitary base in Tartus. Keep dreaming about intervention by playing it on X-box or PS3 but in real world it is not going to happen due to reality on the ground. Not to mention that we are broke from all those wars not paid for.
Right! Tell people what they want to hear or what they are afraid to hear: and they will believe you!
Americans are afraid of Russians: it is in their blood, there is nothing they can do! Blame it all on evil Russians and they will dance to your music!
Simplest thing to do would be a naval blockade off Syrias ports preventing oil shipments from coming in and by this cripple their airforce. How could Syria fight a war without oil?
Yes naval blockade of Russian military base. Ha, ha, ha.... go back to playing X-box.
Russia is not Gaza strip with zero jets, zero tanks, zero APC, zero helicopter gunships, zero submarines etc. where naval blockade could work. Try to impose a blockade. How did it work in Georgia in 2008. Ha, ha, ha, blockade. You have been playing X-box too much.
No please. Stop warmongering and stay out of these country's affairs. This is a blatant attempt by western powers to overthrow a gov't we don't like. These countries will turn against us eventually, and the upside for the defense industry is that we'll have to maintain defense spending at ridiculous levels out of fear of Islamic extremism. There is an agenda here and it is rotten. Slash the defense budget and spend the cash on helping those in need. Use our troops in Sudan to protect Africans from the Arabs or in many other places in Africa where people are being terrorized for their politics or their faith.
NO AND MESSAGE TO ISRAEL AND AIPAC...BLOWWWWW MEEEEEEE
No.
How about The United States of America fixes their own back yard first. We have poverty, homelessness, SEVERE EDUCATIONAL issues, and many more issues. The US barely takes care of its Soldiers and Vets (active or not) as it is. How about "We" fix that first THEN worry about someone else's war. You can't take care of someone else unless you take care of yourself first.
Why can't the Syrians solve this the way every other Arab nation solves the problems that they create for themselves:
Blame Israel!
Besides Syria.....we need to keep an eye on India. The disenchantment of minorities is evident by the recent uprising in India. From Bangalore to Mumbai, to Goa to Kerala and Chennai and Pune not to forget Assam and onto New Delhi ..... this is a premonition of epic proportions. We are witnessing the implosion of India..some will grasp it now while others will need to see it in the rear view mirror.
We continue to be of the opinion that India is a zero sum event in history and that a break up of sorts is the optimum way to maximize its potential for the people. The current events in India reinforce our belief that the inevitable implosion of India has begun and the beginning of the end state is upon us. Whether that will be nirvana that most of us believe it will, is yet to be seen. But this we will say. This defragmentation of India will unleash boundless opportunities and uber economic demand that will be beneficial to US and Europe and help pull them out of current recessionary malaise. We pray for the events to unfold peacefully and in a harmonious manner for the people of India and its neighbors.
You hit the nail right on the head. India is the stealth mischief monger in the region financing the bad guys under the radar. You control India, you lick all the problems in the world/region. I agree with km1007 100%.
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Try putting your real name Zardari!
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!!
In most cases I would say no. However when I see a government killing small innocent children on purpose, then yes, but it should not just be the US it should be the world intervening! And we should have gotten out of Afghanistan and Iraq years ago.
The Congress should pass a resolution with the force of law that says "stay the hell out of Syria!" We have no national security interests with Syria and need not interfere with them, AT ALL!!!
i am getting annoyed with this issue. My biggest concern over this issue is if Russia will do something stupid. Russia and Syria have ties that go all the way back to the soviet days and my biggest concern is that if NATO is forced to get involved, we might have our own issues in that Russia will get its feet wet on the side of Al-assad. In which case we have WWIII. The best thing that we can do right now is stay out of the conflict, because although Libya wasn't a tipping point for Russia, Syria might be....
Extra: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/opinion/why-russia-supports-assad.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
Please relax: Russia has not done anything stupid for ages! That is mostly you Americans who do it lately: so beware of your own stupidity, it harms you more than anithing!
Russia has not done anything bad that we know or care to know about.
Obama said he would intervene if Syria used chemical weapons. He hasn't intervened as Syria has tortured and murdered thousands of citizens. Please explain this to me. Obama is the only person in the world with the power to save Syrian lives. He has chosen not to. He is letting the Muslims kill each other off. OK, I can accept that. But why exclude chemicals? You either elect to help or let the mass murder continue. I don't think Obama will intervene if Syria nukes its citizens. And maybe he should not. Not until the Arab world shouts for help and offers to pay for the bombs dropped on the Syrian Troops. Let the Muslims figure out that their culture is a mess and fix it themselves. That would help them and the world. I don't see that happening. The culture is almost 1500 years behind current civilization. Maybe they should be allowed to use WMDs on themselves , like DDT on mosquitoes.
America needs to stay out of Syria and every other nation in the world! When other countries have problems, LET THEM TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN PROBLEMS AND STOP MAKING THEIR PROBLEMS OUR PROBLEMS! AMERICA NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF AMERICANS AND NOT BE A BANDAID FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!!
Just let the middle east blow each other to extinction. No Palestine, no Syria, no Israel the world would be a better place.
Whenever we get involved in the Middle East, innocent Americans die. Libya –> Lockerbie. Iran Operation Ajax –> hostage crisis. Troops in Middle East –> 9/11.
You have triggered the problem in Syria, you are involved from the begining.Dont try to become innocent.
If you mean we triggered it by being free... yeah, we triggered it.
US should do more in Africa. More people are dieing in Africa.
There's a difference between isolationism and non-interventionism.
This is the problem with our country, a lack of compassion. The far right will present themselves as the "moral" party, but would rather use our military as a device for the export of democracy. The far left would claim that they are the party of hummanitarians, yet stand silent when they should press for intervention in Syria. The overwhelming reality that we refuse to accept is that the height of our nation was when we as a people were unified in the 1940's against a true threat to humanity. Ignore what certain posters have said on this page that "WWII wasn't an American crusade against evil, it was a calculated war to protect the countries who owed us a lot of money from loans in WWI (GB and France). " This is irrelevant, the American people believed in the cause, not the cash. We as a nation have become the greatest in the world, it is time that we turn to maintaining this. Syria could be the first step back to position as a global power for good, Obama or Romney, look at libya, so little US intervention, and such a positive outcome, building more allies in the middle east can be acheived through similar methods. As for the comment "Maybe they should be allowed to use WMDs on themselves , like DDT on mosquitoes." I am truly sorry that you have lost your humanity, but I believe America can maintain hers. To those who praise a policy of letting other nations take care of their problems, look to the french in the revolutionary war, had they ignored our need for help, where would we be.
Stay out of it, not our problem.
The U.S. military is not protecting the freedom of Americans. The military serves the Federal Corporation and its financial interests and quest for power and control of the world's people and resources. Whether the military personnel realize it or not, they are hired mercenaries under contract to the Corporation. Read Rollo May's discussion of freedom. Freedom is not what the U.S. military fights to defend, not at all.
Simple answer: No, stay the h#ll out of it. This is an Arab problem.
I say no. This is because every time the US has stepped into anything in the Middle East, people turn on us and say we are the problem. They want us out. So, to avoid being asked out, we should not get involved at all. Let them solve their own problems. I don't see China or Russia trying to stop the violence.
What's the difference between the U.S. helping Kosovo and Syria? Both countries' citizens are being slaughtered unmercifully, in Kosovo's case by another country (Serbia) and Syria by its own leaders. Do something to help the poor people; we're the only country that will help. Why are we the best?
Because you are now bankrupt.
Islam is the greatest killer of all time, worse than Christianity, fascism or communism.
Islamic jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest. Half of the glorious Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus killed. The first Western Buddhists were the Greeks descended from Alexander the Great's army in what is now Afghanistan. Jihad destroyed all of Buddhism along the silk route. About 10 million Buddhists died. The conquest of Buddhism is the practical result of pacifism. Zoroastrianism was eliminated from Persia. The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam. In Africa over 120 million Christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad. Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. These are the Tears of Jihad which are not taught in any school.
I could not disagree with you more. You are looking at India's problems through the wrong prism. That of Indian government which is on life support system blaming Pakistan for all the ills in Indian society. Let's face it, India is a decadent culture and economy on the verge of collapse. India has become a dinosaur. A Smithsonian specimen. Like humpty dumpty even USA, NATO and the entire free world are having a tough time holding it together. Living in the shadows of Pakistan, defined by China, haunted by Kashmir and punctuated by Terror Organizations such as Shiv Sena, India is struggling to find a meaning for its existence and a place in the new world order. Here is my take on the ongoing civil war in India and its imminent disintergration.
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Do Porkis have any other propaganda?
THE AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL REPORT ON "MEERUT" MASSACRE OF MUSLIMS IN INDIA
Reuters:
"Amnesty International has concluded that there is strong evidence that members of India’s Provincial Armed Constabulary were responsible for the Muslim massacre (hundreds of thousands) and the deliberate killing of unarmed civilians during the riots and following days."
The report added that witnesses had charged PAC officers (all Brahmins and High caste Hindus) of herding Muslims into trucks and later shooting them dead (raping the Muslim ladies, in most cases). Their bodies were then tossed into canals and rivers.
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers yet again!!! pakistani need a diaper change!!
It is no secret that Hitler and his Nazi cronies sought inspiration from Indian extremist groups including the branding of his Nazi Party by adopting the Swastika, a traditionally Hindu symbol and representation of Hindu god Ganesha, as its marketing tool. The thesis being that like the Norwegian massacre, the Jewish holocaust orchestrated by Hitler was inspired by the inherently violent cult of Indian Hindus and the manifesto of its then extremist/terrorist groups still in existence today. These groups are now the successors to and carrying out the vision of Al Qaeda all over the world.
It appears to me that Muslims are the fastest growing segment of world society today. As others are withering away the Muslims seem to be rising again with their contributions as was the case historically when they ruled India and Europe and left behind a legacy of science, art, architecture, culinary et al. One only needs to go to Spain and India to witness this. As immigrants, it is a good thing to be aware of your glorious heritage and be connected with it. The Italian immigrants do it as do the Germans, Polish, Jewish, Hispanic and many other cultures. What really pleasantly surprised me was what I witnessed in the Middle East. A tolerant society that has come so far in a few years. Most importantly providing job and economic opportunities to all, Hindus/Indians, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Europeans, Americans, Africans, South Americans, Chinese, and Russians etc. Never have I witnessed such openness and equal opportunities unless you go back to the times of Muslim rule in India and Spain. My conclusion is that the Muslims get it. They are striving to once again take their leadership role in the world order and take this civilization to its next level of excellence. The climb to success and progress is not a linear curve but a stochastic one. Let us join in wishing our Muslim brethren well and much success in their endeavors. If we can't help them let's not pull the rug from under them.
don't worry its too late the government vs people battle has degenerated into a sectarian civil war likely to last for years to come, but really who cares its not our country not our responsibility. Pain and suffering is part of this world if so called good men are unwilling to stand up to tyranny darkness falls over the land. This world is not one country America isn't all there is until we unite behind a flag of freedom justice and the pursuit of happiness there will be places where these horrible things happen. We are all human when will we start acting together for our worlds betterment instead of against each other in petty squabbles. I hope that day comes before mad men enact M.A.D.
Let us focus on the causes of terrorism and try to fix the issues. They have been hanging out there for over 60 years ...Palestine..Kashmir. Let us focus on the victims of 9/11 and help the families more than we have done. Let us take care of their kids and put them through college. Let us take care of their wives/husbands/parents. Let us take care of over 200,000+ families whose dear ones gave their lives in Pakistan fighting this terror war. Let us focus on the victims in Afghanistan. They are so many.
The US government should do absolutely nothing about Syria including secretly through the CIA.
The U.S has no business in the Middle East in the first place.
Second they are not the high authority to decide what happens in other countries to intervene . That's what the U.N was established for.
And like always I guarantee that the U.S is going to use 1 of the many loop holes of the UN, which is to act upon human rights, to say that they are doing whatsoever for the human benefit of Syria.
Stay out. Stop feeding media hype and hysteria about actual situation inside Syria.
Do not let your GPS degenerate into Global Pi*ss*ing Square.
Have a nice coffee talk with Wolfowitz and neocons.
What is wrong with you people? If the US doesn't lead in this humanitarian crisis, who will? Absolutely no one, that's who! This is a completely one sided war with Russia and Iran supplying heavy weaponry to the Assad govt who is shelling his own people with warplanes for God's sake! All the Syrian people can do is defend themselves with Kalashnikovs and rifles that they buy on the black market. Women and children are being massacred by one side only and you ant to sit back and watch?! Where is the humanity in that?! So what's wrong if the US leads a coalition of countries to do a no fly zone in northern Syria only? Or supply the rebels with better weapons like anti-aircraft missiles so they can stop Assad planes from bombing them? To let them get massacred and just watch is just sick!
Your are short on facts and long on silly opinions. We have neither the obligation or the right to impose our opinions (and weapons) because we decide that it is the "human" thing to do. Who will do it? With luck, no one will and the Syrians will be given the freedom to handle the own problems. By the way, those freedom fighters that you love so much are a mixture of taliban, Iranian religious fundamentalists, Chechnyan Muslim fundamentalists and others who have no compunction about murdering anyone to enforce their beliefs. The only "freedom" they believe in is the freedom for them to rule the county.
syria people must beg help from israel-the only one humanitary in the middle east.
You're being sarcastic right?
Where is the down side?
We should sell tickets and popcorn.
I must have missed that UN meeting where we were appointed the police force and moral guardians for the entire world. This is none of our business and if we really believe in freedom, its time we gave other people the freedom of deciding their fates without our interference. If you believe that there is a "good" side in this conflict, you are short a lot of facts. We have no business picking sides and no right to interfere.
The UN didn't appoint America to go into Iraq......
Would you rather pick and choose to be the defenders of freedom only when the country in question has resources aplenty? I would say that the "good" side in this conflict would be the defenceless civilians that are being murdered in the streets by government troops.
Is that the responsibility of the United States to fix? or is that what the UN is for? Should it just be human nature to want to help fix it?
I think the United States should probably stay out of Syria and let them handle their own business and just have the United Nations involved, even though the UN is more like a bunch of a Tonka toys and Lggo's that don't workl.
The people have proven previously that if they are fed up enough with their government they will over throw it on their own.
There is not one spot the US has intervened that has not backfired. Shall we start with Vietnam? Iraq moving over to Afghanastan, Egypt on the brink. Syria is a civil war turned turkey shoot by NATO. Eventually the little people will wake up and cause a major change to the ones igniting all this trouble. Karma has a way of striking back.
Jim I agree with you here on this one. Especially now that our jets can be in that region in just a few hours why even have our troops stationed over seas anymore?
No.............................please do not send our young men & women to war. If you want to help Syria, a lot of prayers will suffice no matter how ridiculous it is for other people. Yes......................prayers for the suffering people of Syria.
Pray for a brain...
India is again double crossing Americans in Syria as they did in Iran. I for one have had enough of this nonsense from these hindu Indians. As far as I am concerned deport these people back to where they came from. They are not trustworthy and back stab you. You would think after all the support and financial aid we have provided them for 30 years there would be some payback. Enough is enough.
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Invent some new propaganda retards!
Leave Syrian business to the Syrians, why should the US intervene? I am sick and tired of CNN trying to push for more wars so they can have something to pass on on their news shows.
Zionist controlled mainstream media!
Hello,sir.Please allow me to introduce myself,sir.
My God name's "God",sir.
My name's Mr.Surakij Vuthikornpant,sir.
To be honest,sir.Today,I'm just normal civilian in Bangkok,Thailand.
By the way,just only one simple question,sir.
Simple question that I keep asking so many people for decade.
"If you have chance to safe people from dying,if you can,which one will gonna be,sir???"
1,) Sit & watch,do nothing,just let them die.
2.) Try to safe some,even sometime you know,sometime you don't know,how many you can safe??? It called "Spirit of Humanity".that I ultimately believe.
3.) ............................(I intentionally leave blank if somebody have another opinion,please let me know,I will very appreciate,sir.)
So which one will gonna be,sir???
I hope,we,us,everybody,as "human-beings" ,as "spiritual person" with intelligence & free wills will choose our choice wisely.sir.
I ultimately ultimately believe in "Spirit of Humanity" in all of us,can help everybody walkthrough any difficult times together & will prevail all of difficult times,sir.
Thank you very much for reading,sir.
Sincerely & faithfully.
Surakij Vuthikornpant.
Ohh,I apologize,I forgot another 1 more question to ask.
From first question.
"If you have chance to safe people from dying,if you can,which one will gonna be,sir???"
Second question is..
"If you don't haave chance,or if you can not to help those people,or both,or even if you disgree to help those people,and want to sit & watch,do nothing & watch them die,"
"If have somebody that have chance to help them,and they can help those people from dying..."
"Which one will gonna be,sir???"
1.) Stop them,
2.) Cheer them up,encourage them,support them,appreciate them,thanks them that safe those people lifes...
3.) ...................................(again,I intentionally leave blank if somebody have another opinion,please let me know,I will very appreciate,sir.)
Thank you very much,
Sincerely & faithfully.
Surakij Vuthikornpant.
World is not as simple as you think/
What is doing Obama and his masters ? Still they are sitting idle. Hillary and co. took a little adventure in Russia but
KGB agent did outsmart Obama and Hillary. Now the adventure in Syria is doomed to fail. Now only option is invading
Syria but problem is that land of Holy Cow will be affected. So just cacophony from CNN for the time being.
Syria alone can solve this crises. The Arab league can also help them. The opposition can go to UN court and can submit war crimes committed by its government. A US or NATO military involvement could trigger WW III.
I now know why Russia and China is holding out on the UN wishes. Russia and China know that these "rebels" are not organized and consist of many different extreemist tribes and sects. who love to fight EACH OTHER. If and when Assad leaves, all hell is going to break out and turn into a geographic area of archiac tribal war that will be worse than Afganastan.
You Yankees love spreading democracy around the world,like iraq.why dont you try it with N.Korea and China?they are not easy yes?Rednecks!
The snipers on the roof tops that you heard about shooting at the rebels and civilians are not Assads military. They are part of the rebel groups who have begun fighting each other.
Lets give them a name;Mossad,CIA,Al Qaeda.
If i was an American,i would rather ask myself ,why our white house staffs are always jews? white house chief of staff;Jacop Lew,white house advisor: david axelrod.israel controlled US or shall i call it body armour of israel (US)?
Of course the U.S.A. should be doing more in regards to Syria. Weather the reason that we are not is that it is election year,lack of money I also believe its a good thing. We cannot solve the worlds problems, we have shed a lot of blood and invested billions basically in nothing. I can site various examples in history that would prove that. The United Nations need to step it up. U.N. Peacekeepers shoud already have been in Syria to prevent the massacre from continuing.
Stupid question! STAY OUT!
Economic limitations must be appreciated by those who encourage American leadership to have direct interference in Syria specifically in military form. China & Russia support Assad of Syria for compelling reasons of their investments in Syria. America too should not cross its economic interest more so when American leadership has seen results of assistance to Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and other countries. It is good for America to confine its interests to allies, countries of interstates with global thrust to democratic reforms in disturbed countries through economic & political strategies. It will take decades before theocratic & non democratic countries adapt to reforms. It is better to have education stipends for students of these countries to come to USA & learn with no GC or immigration status. They must go back after education & give results of reforms in their countries. It is also required to have mutual trade treaties for countries in Middle East & Asia to encourage exports from America & restart the manufacturing factories & give heavy equipment on sale or lease basis to importing American machinery. Direct military conflict should be avoided till threat to America Security is not substantial & CIA & FBI should be fully deployed for effective intelligence.
Jeetu Ji lugta hai gaand mein khuglee hai teree.
We now need to focus on India. The American invasion of Afghanistan brought to the forefront the irrelevance of India as a nation. With a population of over 1.2 billion people there was no value that this nation could bring to the table. Their soldiers (ragtag) 1.2 million continue hiding in the trenches scared from Talibans. A few teenage Talibans invaded the country and held it hostage for days on end showing how useless India is.
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Think of some new agenda. You use same statements against US, Israel and India!
Bomb Iran first to the stone age and let the Arabs deal with their own affairs
One has to drone India first before that. India is playing a double game in Syria with Americans.
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Congratulations Mr. Dusty Zardari for most irrelevant comments of the millenium.
India is double crossing us again in Syria a s it did in Iran Aand Afghanistan.I want all American money out of India.
We have invested a lot of resources in India over the past two decades and given a lot of aid to prop it up. There has been no investment on this return. Instead India has squandered all the resources in building nuclear weapons while poverty remains rampant in the country. We need to revisit our relationship with India. American taxpayers will not tolerate this anymore. We need to take care of our own populace going forward. We cannot be exporting jobs to India or giving it financial or technical handouts.It has become too big to govern or create any value for western countries or even for its own population. India needs to be carved up into smaller independent states to be a viable economically and geo politically
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Wish Pakistanis could concentrate positively on better issues rather than just India-hatred (under non-Paki/non-Muslim names).
With such "Dark Age" culture still in existence in India how can the world be healthy and the neighbors prosperous. India poses a grave danger to the world and its deities and leaders set a bad example. Mahatma Gandhi, a pedophile, needs to be exposed and tried posthumously for his child molestation crimes just like the Penn State crowd Sandusky et al. Gandhi's statutes need to be knocked down everywhere they have been put in USA. The hindu deities need to be shattered and trashed. Disgusting figurines of ugly and scary looking characters with demonic personalities. How can hindu children grow up mentally stable looking at such atrocious representations of evil in its most heinous form.
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Usual Perky-Porki-Paki agenda. Find something new!!
Sick and tired of the Arabs and Muslims in general..The world is upside down just because of the Arabs and Muslims fighting among themselves in the name of Allah and some A...hole call Mohammed.. We have no business in helping anyone,.. right now we have enough problems here at home with the economy and unemployment. What is the use to be wasting money in people that on daily basis proclaim the hate they have for our country enough is enough
Take a listen to this. You may learn something new from my research. Revert back to me with your thoughts.
I am getting bad vibes reading about Hindus and Indians and their culture. I have read up on them as well and don't like what I see. How can our government be supporting India, a culture so brutal and anti women, children and minorities. I have put in a call to our congressional delegation and emailed them as well opposing any further financial aid/support of any kind to India. We Americans cannot condone such archaic cultures. I urge all Americans to contact their congress people and voice their concerns regarding India.
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! USA please send diaper aid to Mr. Dusty Zardari!!
TERRORIST GROUPS IN INDIA PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO SYRIAN PRESIDENT ASSAD SPONSORED BY INDIAN GOVT.
• RASHTRIYA SWAYAM SEWAK SHANG (R.S.S.)
• VISHWA HINDU PARISHAD
• HINDU MUNNANI
• ARYA SAMAJ
• SHIV SENA
• BHARATIYA JANATA PARISHAD
• SANT SAMITI
• HINDU MAHASABHA
• BAAJRANG DAL
LEADERS: L.K. Advani/ Ashok Singhal/ Bala Saheb Devaras/ Bal Thackeray/ A.B. Vajpayee/ Savarkar/ Baikunnth Lal Sharma “Prem”/ Balraj Madhok/ The Shankaracharya of Puri, Niranjan Dev Theerth/ Rama Gopalan/ Variyar – Vishwan Hindu Parishad/ Dharmalinga Nadar/ Cho Ramaswamy
Word Jew is based on Latin word Yahood, Je or Ja, Ye, or Ya, meaning from heart and mind base word for Yes in English, HOOD, habit or habitat, meaning, self centered or a secular, denier of truth absolute, such as King, or Pig, in disregard to truth absolute and Judaism, One who takes a wow to be in violation of truth by his intent, considering himself to be the God, the truth absolute, same as in hindu, denier of truth absolute, word hindu is based on Latin word hindrance, negativity, HAN, great, Hun, to be in greatness and hin, to be negative to both of them, hindu, a noun in negativity, hinduism, way of negativity, as in word Jew, a self centered or a criminal, otherwise known as a goon, a shaman. Judaism is not a religion but in opposition, defiance to truth absolute in self center ism..
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Has US lately stopped AID for diapers in Pakistan?
The U.S. does not have to send in any troops or ordnance to get Assad out of power. We have the drones: drop a good sized bomb on his palace/residence. This would be the equivalent of removing the queen bee from the hive: End of hive.
Americans are obsessed with drones: that is quite funny! You do not need a drone to bomb a house or a bunker you know. In and out: a plane can do it and would be probably more suitable. What is it about drones that makes it so attractive? Is it a kind of phallic symbol or what?
Drones are ideal for the job of wiping out Assad because they fly so high they are undetectable and there is no U.S. pilot put at risk as a drone has remote control. It is not a symbol of anything!!
That is what I was saying: you have no idea, only fantasies! Drones do not fly that high and they are not that difficult to detect if you are not a Taliban chief stuck in the last century. And you can not wipe out any regime using drones anyway: they do not carry enough weapons for anything: most they could do is to blow up a car or a few people if they stand together somewhere in a middle of a desert.
Drone strikes in a populated area like Damascus with all the buildings, cars and people: not going to happen!
Drone strike is just another propaganda too: it keeps Americans happy more than anything!
America has it's hands in enough pies. Syria is a civil war. Let them sort it out, it's none of our business. Period. It's not our job to police the world.
Fareed, get out of the journalism business... go back where you belong...
The sectarian nature of this conflict reminds me of the war in the Balkans in the 1990's. Of course, that conflict was driven by the breakup of a country, and came not as the result of popular revolt against a dictator, but the seeking out and slaughter of one ethnic group (the Sunnis, primarily) by another (sympathizers of Assad's Alawite regime) tastes familiar. They say those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it, and in this case the past involves decisions made by the Clinton administration. In that case, far too much time passed before the decisions to conduct air strikes was made, resulting in thousands of additional lives lost as the result of massive genocide. I say, get involved now to limit lost life later. Limit it to air and missile strikes to minimize loss of life. Once the rebels gain the advantage, pull out, but be sure to have a team in place to assist once Assad's regime falls.
Why we have to do all this fighting and scheming? It is a civil war which has been instigated by outsiders and the insurgents are financed by outsiders who have no moral standing, S.Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, Al Queda and who else?
We have no national interests there and let the events play themselves out. Somehow we always get the blame for any outcome. We have our own issues to resolve and no more wars to save the world.
I understand why we wouldn' want to send our troops and cause a bigger uproar in the middle east, however there are innocent lives,children who are being massacred by their own government and everyone's hands are tied.. why? because of crazy, greedy morons like Russia and China who are worried about losing their trade deals with Syria. So innocent children are dying everyday because someone needs to get rich? really? WE have a responsibility as human beings to step up to the plate when no one else will to end these atrocities regardless. The international community needs to set up a no fly zone and send in massive amounts of humanatarian aid/forces to at least give the innocent a chance. As far as the chemical weapons, we should be there now looking to destroy them before some crazy extremist uses them against OUR country which is what WILL happen if they get ahold of them.
As an American I wish this country would stop interfering in other people's internal affairs. We have only been at it since the Spanish American War in the 1890s. Before then we were too busy fighting a civil war, taking 2/3 of Mexico, and exterminating the native population.
The Arab countries have been fighting each other for over 5000 years. We (America) will not stop it anymore than any other country that has tried and failed. We need to take care of our own country first, and when we are healthy, only then help the rest of the world. (maybe)
The United States banned countries such as Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia to send "anti-aircraft" to Free Syrian Army in order to protect the innocent from aerial bombardment!!This is the United States!!American politics without morality!
No!!!!!
Hey WAKE UP. The people of the middle east have been fighting for Thousands of years. If thats what they want to do let them have at it. We should NOT help them do it in any way, shape or form. We have enough problems of our own to deal with.
I have mixed feelings. I agree that our economy should be our main focus right now. But I don't like the genocide. I would support a no-fly zone to protect civilians from being bombed by Assad's air force. But, I would want the international community to support it, and not just have the US fly solo. Russia and China are members of the UN Security council, and they do not support it at the present time. So unless or until they change their mind, I do not think that we will be able to do anything more than humanitarian aid to the border towns (e.g., Turkey) accepting tremendous influx of immigrants.
WHERE IN THE GPS IS FAREED!?!?!? WE MISS HIM!!!!
It's a sad day for mankind when France is the only country in the world to ask the rest of the world to support a no-fly zone over Syria. It means American domestic politics will allow tens of thousands of civilians to be slaughtered by Assad's aircraft and helicopters when the mean declaration of a no-fly zone would be enough to scare the crap out of any Assad pilot.
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France seems to have very peculiar concept for what no-fly zone is... It has shown it in Libya. The world turned its back not to see it. I guess France asks the world to look another way again.
Get involved and we will help rise another muslim brotherhood group up into power. There is no winning in the middle east, the thought processes are illogical. There is no sense or want of democracy. It is the land of tribal and muslim sectarian violence. Just look at libya and egypt. In libya no one has control, as we watch khadafi's stockpile of weapons make there way across the north africa in the hands of muslim extremists. in egypt, sinai violence, persecution of christians and women. The Arab Spring has been so great!!!! Out with one bad group and in with another. Stay out of Syria, Stay out of the middle east, except for the support of Israel.
It is better if the USA stay out of the Syria conflict militarily. It is not such an economical of US involvement. The american
people have suffered so much domestically financially because the Irag and Afghan wars. If the US government enter into another war in the Middle East, the american people will sack into a land of desperation, extortion and violent loots.
And then who is going to come and rescue the american people?
Thus, I disapprove the US involvement with Syria Conflict in any shape and form. Otherwise, the US government will not fish what they started because the domestic financial hardship is getting deeper into the Black Hole.
Democrat and Republican aside If you see 1 guy getting stomped by many .. you stick your neck out to help that guy whether hes right or wrong ,or you sit back like we are today watching your friends jobs get shipped over seas and do nothing because it's not your problem. We Americans have become weak and stupid living our lives like a reality show WAKE UP people core values are way more important than money .. politically if we choose to enter Syria in any way whether with feet on the ground or weapons we need to stick out til the end to ensure the work we put in is completed not create another Osama bin laden like we did in Afghanistan .. We Need To Support Syria end Story
USA has triggered this war and now CNN is weeping on the blood of the people. Long live USA.
Everyone,
I just sent an email to all Members of the Parliament of Canada attaching my recent letter to Assad (Aug. 20) as well as my YouTube video.
If you can, please rally your own government to do whatever they can to pressure Assad to leave.. NOW!!
We have to stop the madness.
Thanks,
...
Jack H.
https://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=st_wzmFA3tU
Let the people in Syria handle their own business!
Let's take the billions of dollars a war would cost and put new water main pipes in every American city.
Let's bury all power lines.
Let's fix our crumbling roads & bridges.
Let's make our public school system HALF as good as Finland's.
Let's employ young people to help the elderly, keeping them out of nursing homes.
Let's fund inner city recreation centers, so kids have a safe place to go.
Let's leave Syria to the Syrians!!
Consider the consequences of possible strategies by the U.S. in this conflict:
(1) Intervene openly on side of FSA, by declaring a no fly zone over any territory they hold. Consequence 1 would be likely expansion of FSA territory, fast final victory over Assad, and Syrian people's deep appreciation of the U.S. as a friend. Then, if Al-quada militants try to hijack the FSA revolution, U.S. will get cooperation and support from the faction of FSA that U.S. helped put into power. making it easy to root out and destroy Al-Quada in Syria. Consequence 2 would be earning great anger of Russia, China, and Iran with increased liklihood they would actually send army or air force aid to Assad, thereby prolonging and possibly widening war to entire Middle East, if not wider arena.
(2) Continue present course of siding with FSA, but only providing secret funding and non-lethal assistance (valuable intelligence and communications aid). Consequence 1 to this strategy would be continued miltary stalemate and increased FSA reliance on Al-Quada and other islamists, just to survive. Consequence 2 would be not angering Russia, China or Iran any further, with little liklihood they would intervene militarily in Syria, and thus no wider war.
(3) Pull back entirely from any involvement in Syria, except verbal denunciations of Assad. Consequence 1 to this strategy would be earning extreme hatred of U.S. by the FSA and its total reliance on Al-Quada and other islamists to survive. Also, surrounding countries like Lebanon and Turkey will eventually have to get involved. Consequence 2 would be a very pleased Russia, China, and Iran, with no liklihood they would intervene militarily in Syria, but with all of Syria as a base for Al-Quada as it lauches attacks on next door Israel and trains for another 9/11 against U.S. Eventually, U.S. will need to intervene militarily in Syria to destroy the Al-Quada power network there.
Of course, other scenarios are possible and all should be evaluated in great detail for each likely consequence. My point is that the preferred U.S. strategy on Syria is not as simple as many people here make it out to be.
Hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism labeled as Christianity is an off shoot of hinduism, denial of truth absolute by hinduism, corruption of truth absolute by hindu Pharisee's, criminal self centered and promoted with sword by hindu criminal king's and their hindu pagan Magi' fortune teller Prophets to make humanity their gentile, slave, A hinduism, crime against humanity and truth absolute.
Nazi racist ideology has its roots in hindu, pagan Egypt, ancestral home land of Saxons, meaning tied to or forged with essence, meanings god's, subcontinent never was part of hindu denial of truth absolute but hinduism, racism was imposed by force by hindu's, criminals of Egypt and Persia on nomadic population of subcontinent by declaring themselves to be god's, while native's of Europe were slaughtered to extinction by hindu Gaul's, criminal self centered after they were defeated as hindu, deniers of truth abolute Pharaoh's by the king's of Sudan. Letter X, Hinduism, forgery of word, tied to or forged with. hindu criminal sign of swastika is formed by joining of upright hindu criminal Pharaoh's pyramid and up side down on same axis, invisible pyramid of his hindu pagan Priest, crossing point of both pyramid's creates Swastika above burial chamber of hindu, pagan, self centered Pharaoh. Envisioned by hindu, pagan Zoroaster, preached by hindu, criminal Plato and displayed in Physical form by hindu sanatan, filthy goon Pythagoras. Presence of hinduism, racism is less than 3000 thousand years old in sub continent , not as hindu's, deniers of truth absolute hind, lie of 6000 years in their Hinduism, absurdity. hindu filthy sign of hinduism, pagan ism labeled as Star of David by hindu Jew's, pagan secular s has nothing to do with Israelite but top view of meeting of two hindu, fabricated pyramid to illustrate god hood of two hindu, criminal person's.
Word Jew is based on Latin word Yahood, Je or Ja, Ye, or Ya, meaning from heart and mind base word for Yes in English, HOOD, habit or habitat, meaning, self centered or a secular, denier of truth absolute, such as King, or Pig, in disregard to truth absolute and Judaism, One who takes a wow to be in violation of truth by his intent, considering himself to be the God, the truth absolute, same as in hindu, denier of truth absolute, word hindu is based on Latin word hindrance, negativity, HAN, great, Hun, to be in greatness and hin, to be negative to both of them, hindu, a noun in negativity, hinduism, way of negativity, as in word Jew, a self centered or a criminal, otherwise known as a goon, a shaman. Judaism is not a religion but in opposition, defiance to truth absolute in self center ism.
In divine language word hinduism, absurdity called religion does not exist, borne out of hindu Judaism, filthy secularism defiance of truth absolute of Persia and Egyptian hindu pagan origin , hindu Jew's criminal secular s pretending to be Hebrew, but Theen Allah, way of truth absolute, source for peace, Shalom among humanity, Quran quantifies it and Hidat explains the La, limit's absolute to reach peace Islam in life. hinduism, corruption of truth absolute labeled a bible has nothing to do with truth absolute but justification of hindu Mithra ism, filthy savior ism, foundation of hindu filthy hinduism,. racism.
World can never have peace in presence of hinduism, denial of truth absolute, humanity need to work together for elimination of hindu's, criminals and their hinduism, illegality.
... and what does any of that have to do with Syria?
Cripes.
Every thing, hinduism, terrorism of hindu Jew's, criminal secular s and their hindu terrorist gentiles, slave, Christians of the west.
The land called India is the rightful territory of South Asian muslims (oooops West Central Asia) bequeathed to them by the Moghals who ruled India for centuries. The land was conveyed to them through a warranty deed the original of which is supposedly in the archives of the British Museum. Time has come now for the hindus to vacate the land. We have an alternate location for them…..the deep abyss of the Indian Ocean. As Don Corleone would have put it….”The Hindus Swim With The Fish” or rather the “Sharks”.
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Diaper Aid please!
It's too complicated, if I had the answer as what to do with Syria I wouldn't be writing comments on CNN.What I can say is that Syria is a bit like Lebanon only much bigger. It has many different ethnic groups and there is likely to be ethnic tensions and conflict.Also Syria is a major ally of Iran and the Hezbollah in Lebanon you would drag hem into the conflict as well. If you think Iraq was bad for US troops then Syria would be much worse.Also Russia and China really it's not a good idea to snub these two powers.Syria represents especially for the Russians one of the few remaining foot holds in this region same with China.They just don't like the Western powers calling the shots over this oil rich region and they want their own puppet regimes.So in general I would say...let the UN take the lead and try to find a diplomatic solution.I don't see a conflict outcome that would be positive for anyone and a occupation would be just a costly bloody disaster.
LIPSTICK ON A PIG: The Story of India
Mirror Mirror on the Wall
Indian Hindus are the slimiest of them all
The way you let the Shadows Play
You'd think my hair was getting Gray.
What's that, you say? A double chin?
Nah, that's the way the light comes in.
Self Denial....is the Hindu play
Maybe catharsis is another way.
Do not insult a pig, self centered by comparing it to a hindu ignorant human from hindered gutter land india, animal has no sense to be right or wrong like human, "HIS" desire, A hindu denier of truth in his hindu Judasim, filthy self center ism is more hindu, filthy than a hindu pig, filthy self centered.
Paki diapers to be changed yet again!!
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Smelly of Jihadist pee!
Our role in Libya was played with perfection. But – it's easy to see Syria isn't the same type game. As the top dog in global "influence" what choices will we have when the situation there continues to escalate is the real question! We need to be considering where it's all going – not just todays latest news reports. It looks to me like it won't even stay the same let alone get any better, anytime soon.
In fact we are a global community, deciding not to decide only masks the truth. What happens if shipping lanes are shut down and oil prices start to strangle out our fragile – global – economy? Many of the contributors here seem to think in black and white answers, but shades of grey is more realistic. I certainly don't have a simplistic answer, but I feel it's a matter of finding the most balanced and best timed approach we can.
If there is good news, it seems that if Syria get's resolved the region and free world will benefit, so it is really in our interest to help steer the outcome.
Show us some oil. Then we'll be there.
yes
if this in europe something would have been done by now
if nothing is done
the smae wil happen agin some where else
some one has to do something
I find it funny that so many people still think America engages in wars for the sake of "democracy". The U.S. acts as the so called "police state" for one reason, and one reason only: financial and limited-resource gains. We would (and have) install "non-democratic" (to put it lightly) governments if there were benefits for American interests in those countries. When there is money to be made and little need to worry about elections or other political and financial tidbits, you better believe our government would find a reason to get involved. I'm dumbfounded at the people who write here who believe that America has a "moral" right to help other countries solve their own problems within their sovereignty.
If this is in fact a matter of genocide, the questions quickly comes to mind why the U.S. would engage here when they have not done so in the Congo or Sudan despite years of atrocities occurring in those places. I do believe that there should be an international group that confronts genocides, but it is not the place of our one country to act as the do-all know-all. I truly hope that our country does not get involved.
On the contrary, it is up to our country, as the leader of the world, to become the main proponent for peaceful action. What do we show young burgeoning nations when we literally seek out battles and show our "modernity" with our new-age destructive weaponry? From afar we use unmanned planes to blast militants and, in the process, hurt innocent individuals. We tear apart families as we sit watching 80" LED TVs. Little boys and girls are left parent-less, and seething; why should we be surprised if they find solace in the comforting arms of terror groups? Intelligence and technology mean nothing if you lack the wisdom to determine cause and effect. We are a silly young sibling nation.
All these chicken hawks are out looking for the next conflict to send our hard earned tax dollars and our youth to cause more mayhem around the world.
Why these criminals keep on talking about spreading democracy when they only cause civil strife and suffering whenever they get their dirty hands in any region of the world. We should let them volunteer themselves for the causes they espouse. I hope Obama keeps us out of these unnecessary wars.
I am waiting to see where Mitt and Obama stand about the war plans of the chicken hawks.
If we fought wars with every country that oppresses its people in some way, it would leave our country in complete ruin. We're rich and powerful, but we're not THAT rich and powerful. The culture of the Middle East is one of tyranny and oppression, and we can't change a culture no matter how many trillions of dollars we spend or how many of our soldiers we sacrifice. This is ultimately something Syrians must fix for themselves, if it is ever to be fixed.
We all have the luxury being arm chair politicians with hindsight as a guide. It's obvious the uprising is being used by multiple sides inside and outside of Syria for the own means. It is also clear that Assad's forces do target civilian areas for no clear military objective. Even Russian media makes mention of the shelling of neighborhoods where anti-government forces are not present. The moral objective is there and it would be just. But it is also not clear if Syrians would actually be any safer once Assad were gone. Those folks are ripe for an Iraq style bloodletting. And I doubt most Syrians want to see the Turks or Nato in their neighborhood.
IF I were in charge, I'd be happy to unleash a week or two of tomahawk missiles to level the game a little, but only if Syria's neighbors pay for it. No boots on the ground.
Lend Lease type of deal, or bombs for oil, or cash and carry, etc.
As much as I hate to say this I largely agree with that. We should not be boots on ground and our help isn't free. It's not of matter of money in a profit sense but bombs ain't free and our economy isn't exactly stable. Syria won't be any safer without Assad. It is def a crap shoot.
Fareed Zakaria is an opportunist carrying water for the Obama administration. It's so sad that he didn't leave his authoritarian reflexes home. The only reason he says "we don't know the rebels" now is because it's more convenient for his master Obama to let Assad kill thousands of people. OH BTW we still don't know who's behind the Anti-Gaddfi opposition.
MO we don'y know the anti gaddafi either. That was a mistake and so is intervening in Syria.
I suspect that the question is designed to see whether their media succeeded in manipulating you into thinking what they wanted you to think after reading/watching their filtered version of reality.
With our economy,unemployment and fuel and food prices ,I think our plate is full,lets clean up our own back yard before we worry about anyone elses!
Why do so many people think these situations have to be 'all or nothing'? It is possible to influence events in these conflicts without committing hundreds of billions of dollars and a coalition of nations...
Tell the Syrians that they can no longer use the airforce, hit a couple radar installations and put patrols off the coast...anyone remember the Iraqi airforce or the Libyan? Once the msg got out that western fire-power was in the air the Iraqi pilots refused to fly...and the Syrians would do the same...would you fly a Russian built helicopter if you thought there might be a NATO F18 somewhere above? It doesn't necessitate a full scale air war...
And contact his generals...remind them about Gaddafi and Saddam, make it clear that Assad is gone and its time for them to think about their next career move...I suspect that very few of Assads 'followers' want to die willingly for him and that eventually he will be found hiding in a ditch like a rat, just as Saddam and Gaddafi were.
The world needs to learn there is still a great difference between bringing down a nation and bringing down a man.
Unfortunately, the Syrian fiasco is now just a reminder that the 'global community' and the UN are really a bit of joke and tyrants everywhere are probably encouraged by the ease with which Assad can murder and continue to trade.
Pegasus326,
This needs to be an educated, serious discussion. Go back to school and stop commenting on things you know nothing about.
We should be doing absolutely nothing. Let them people deal with their own problems. No more world policing. No more funding world welfare.
I smell usual Paki crapped diapers!!! Typical ISI/LeT propaganda!