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By Fareed Zakaria
The images of the American embassy burning in Benghazi might have conjured up memories of Tehran in 1979 but the analogy is false.
In Libya, the government is not fomenting Anti-Americanism, it is fighting it, openly declaring America an ally and friend. The country is pro-American by a 2-to-1 margin, and the violence there appears to have been the work of small, extremist elements that lack much popular support. But the storm has spread from Libya.
Across the Middle East, there have been protests railing against the United States and the West in general. Even in these places, however, keep in mind that these crowds number in the hundreds - perhaps thousands - in countries with tens of millions of people. They make for vivid images, but they do not tell the whole story.
What can we say about these places and protests? First, in many of these countries - particularly those that have toppled dictatorships - the most important reality is not of bad government but of weak government.
In Libya, Yemen and even Egypt, the state has lost its ability to control its public. In a sense this might be progress. Egypt didn't see protests like this before because Hosni Mubarak's regime would arrest or even shoot protesters. Egyptian President Mohamed Morsy is an elected politician, and he is trying to pander, appease, direct and guide people. I wish he were bolder and fought the extremist elements in his society head-on. But let's face it, he's behaving like an elected politician.
Second, what we are witnessing is indeed the consequence of the Arab Spring. Arab societies were locked down for 50 years. The lid has come off them and we're seeing what's inside.
There are some good elements - moderates, liberals, pragmatists - and there are some very nasty elements - extremists, jihadis. And let's be honest, there is a cancer of extremism in the Arab world, one that was diagnosed extensively after 9/11 by many, including me. That cancer has not been cured; most of the forces that produced it still remain. We should be honest that it exists, we should be honest that moderates in the region tend to be weak and often cowardly, but we should try to help them. If the United States pulls out, the crazies will only get stronger.
The clash of civilizations exists between those who want to burn American embassies and those who want to partner with them in building modern societies. We have a stake in who wins that struggle.
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everyone keeps sweeping the blatant bigoted anti-american, pro-jihadist ,anti-semitism associated with the so-called arab spring and the recent unrest because of a "movie" – amazing how the timing for the "unrest" (spontaneous as it was -hah) came on 09/11. after all muslim clerics have been calling for this for months. and what about the consistent calls for death to the jews that is frequently, consistently a theme cried by these 'protestors' – all you hear is "Yahood"- jews in arabic. these people mean us all harm and in small way.
Fareed, it's the group dynamics that make vivid images. A small bunch of impetuous fanatics is capable of commanding a violent mob.
The pattern of the protesters follows clearly the herd mentality. Unf fortunately this mentality will always be part of their culture.
At j. von hettlingen:
The herd mentality is not a trade mark of the people of middle east only, you can see the same phenomena right here in the US..
bobpitt...
I agree with you 100%, just look at the Occupy Movement. Just a whole bunch of sheep!
And don't forget the Tea Baggers...
yes we do have the herd mentality in the US, we burn mosques daily, we bomb, sack, burn foreign embassies almost daily. you get attaboys for burning a mosque or embassy. an we mass in churches and listen to rhetoric about how good it is to kill people of other religions and go and an do it with the protection and blessing of our government and local authorities. we (the males) make our spouses walk behind wrapped up in some that looks like what we used to put on our horses.
Occupy, Tea Party, blind faith religion...all detrimental to the progression of society. It all ties in to one common denominator IMO, and that is simply a lack of proper education.
I wonder why nobody noticed the angry mob and herd mentality when talking about Arab Spring in general! All the liberals rushed to support "pro-democratic" movement! So was it because it seemed not to be directed against the West at the time?
The size only makes angry mob more dangerous, raving and overall disgusting! It does not make it any better or any more legitimate! The sooner liberals in US and Europe understand it, the better! But I am not going to hold my breath: I do not believe them capable of learning from their mistakes: because it is always somebody else's fault!
The Evangelist and their follow travelers are 100% responsible for these provocations. If antisemitism is a crime, why can't Islamophobia be declared a culpable crime? Or, does the First Amendment legalize use of invective?
What about the striking educators in Chicago? Should we rely on them to inculcate citizens with the tools to avoid a herd mentality? BTW, both the Occupiers and the Tea Partiers are comprised of people who have received a "proper education"–the Occupiers are comprised of college grads and college student who are frustrated at their vain attempts to find work commensurate with their education, and have been organized to rally against imagined enemies, while Tea Partiers are those civic minded individuals who are concerned about the expansion of government and its appropriation of private resources.
pro Bono, I hope you didn't go to law school, because if you did, you got ripped off. Antisemitism is not a crime in the U.S. and no one has ever been prosecuted for it. Vandalism and assaults *motivated* by antisemitism are crimes, just as vandalism and assault motivated by prejudice against Muslims are crimes. And yes, the 1st Amendment protects invective.
The Internet can at times give events of local insignificance the false sense of global significance.
They've been feeding us this "its just a few extremist" line for ten years and hundreds of thousands of dead later this supposedly insignificant group of extremists is still foaming at the mouth. It is true that the extremists are probably a numerical minority, but if they're able to pull off high-profile attacks on American diplomats – even in a country is supposed "Pro-America" like Mr. Zakaria claims – then they're clearly a powerful force, perhpas the MOST powerful force, in the region.
The strength of a movement isn't necessarily contingent on its numerical size. The Bolsheviks were a minority in Russia. The Nazis were a minority in Germany. The Mullahs were a minority in Iran in the 1970's. Whether the Islamists are a minority of the population is completely irrelevant for our purposes. They're obviously strong, determined, and capable of impacting the politics in that region. Lets not pretend otherwise just because middle-brow columnists like Mr. Zakaria are in a rush to say the most tolerant, most politically correct thing possible.
JC99
bobpitt...
I agree with you 100%, just look at the Occupy Movement. Just a whole bunch of sheep!
People like you make me sick.
The consti-tution of the United States
gives you the right to assemble and protest.
OWS was protesting big business taking over our government at the expense
of the middle class.
They use thier power and wealth to change laws that benefit
them at our expense.
You have a problem with that ?
How un-American !
I like to know fro where Zakarian stole the article..
Do not forget the Wooden Headed Obama Puppets on the left as well!!! Flea Baggers!
Members of the "Tea Party" have that sheep mentality. All illiterates.
You talking tough from behind a monitor. How coward of you. You coward can't even speak publicly with these views because they are racis and stupid. Wait, you are following what everybody else in your country is saying, whos is the sheep now.
Pro Bono, that is one of the most ridiculous distortion of facts that I have ever see. Can you show us where anti-semitism on its own is illegal? If you take illegal action against someone that is a crime regardless of what religion or ethnic background the crime is against.
WOW so many have drunk the coolaide, these were PLANNED Attacks the US Media and Obama adminstration DONT want to admit it was planned – this video has nothing to do with this voilence WAKE UP people you are being LIED TO By the Current Adminstration as they DONT want to admit they helped to Free those nations that are now turning on US
Wait, you mean the current administration that said we don't want to go in guns blazing because we don't know yet if it was the protesters who attacked or a coordinated enemy using the protests as a cover? That's the same administration that is trying to "cover up" that this was a terrorist attack?
at lookbothweis: that is the right thing to do.. first you find exactly what and who, then you atke action.. otherwise you may be punishing innocent people and creating new terrorist..
I think the real story is, these so called conservatives, evangelical, rightwing, radical liars, pretenders, deceivers,and radicals! I think If Jesus Christ could be tempted to believe in abortion, that is to abort everyone these hypocrites, they would have never been born to lie, cheat, steal, deceive, misrepresent, mislead anyone in this world! Just think, what Mormons believe (check their doctrinal stance not their media dissertation), is that Jesus Christ brother is Satan! IT’S REMARKABLE FOR A SOCALLED CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE TO SUPPORT A PERSON WITH THIS VIEW! THAT MEANS THE ANTICHRIST WILL BE A REPUGLICAN CONSERVATIVE! All we have to do is look at Sam Bacile, Pastor Terry Jones of Gainesville, Fla, Morris Sadek, a conservative Coptic Christian in the U.S. whose behind the film which is responsible for deaths of Americans!
Where do you get the idea that Obama doesn't want to acknowledge they were planned you stupid Southern shltkicker
Wait I did have questions on these though, pretend, when there is an anti Gay video being aired in a news channel in Canada do you think that will stir up violence in United States? Thats kinda what am hearing, the film was aired in Egypt and violence errupted in Libya killing Ambassador Stevens in Bengazi, really!?!?! Whats wrong with that picture? Poor Stevens became the bait for some political game, who knows left or right?
Reasonable people should be able to see through all the lies this administration is putting out. I couldn't believe when I heard the UN ambassador support Obama's theory that these were spontaneous attacks over a 15 minute trailer! What's going to happen when the Bin Laden movie is released?
Actually this was their celebration of the attack on the USA on 9/11. Planned, in some cases yes, and it just got out of hand. Please tell me how many of those inflamed lunies actually saw the trailer and if they did what did it say or mean.
Due to great communications the Imams around the world told their worshipers to head to the US Embassy and throw stones and burning bottles and being the obedient Muslims that they are, they did...without knowing why...
Agreed! The terrorist attacks against the US citizen and interests were obviously preplanned to coincide with the anniversary of 9/11.
But I want.draw attention to the individuals depicted in the numerous photos available of the terrorist who fomented these attacks. I have been to the middle east. These men are not the street poor. Most are clean shaven, hair recently groomed, dressed in an array of current acceptable men's casual clothing, footwear and even stylish sunglasses. Except for the few clerics, the majority would appear comfortable at the Islamic University of Gaza, or the University of Tehran of Iran, or the American University of Egypt. Therefore, my opinion is that they major in flag burning and rioting 101 at their various universities.
Of course it was a planned attack but I disagree with you that the media or the Obama administration is denying that it was a planned attack. Let's face it, every terrorist attack is planned. However, I'm totally appalled by conservatives who continue to blame President Obama for this targedy. Conservatives including Mitt Romney argue that if Romney was President, this tragety would have been averted because he would have put marines at the consulate. But the bigger question to ask is had marines been deployed at the consulate, would this tragedy been averted? I say NO! First of all, whether we had deployed a dozen or two dozens marines at the consulate, this targedy would not have been averted simply because the compound was surrounded by a mob of over four hundred demosntratorse. Secondly, the deaths didn't occur because the insurgents breached the compound. The casualties occured because the insurgents launched propelled grenades from a distance which set the compound ablaze and the occupants were overcomed by smoke inhilation. Third, had there been U.S. marines, they would have come under fire and they too would have been casualties. Fourth, how were a dozen or even two dozen marines going to be able to prevent the insurgents from launching their rockets from a distance? And how were these marines would have been able to put out the fire or vacate the premises safely with the occupants? During the eight year Iraq war and the current Afghan war, our heavily fortified bases have been breached and dozens of American and allied casualties sustained. The reason for this is simply because the insurgents have been able to successfully launch their attacks from a distance with sting missiles, rocket propelled grenades, mortar fires and other retractable high tech weaponry. let's face it, the only way to successfully defend against or avoid such an attack is to withdraw and stay out of Muslim countries period.
Seriously? Why would the media care what the cause is? They are looking for stories, and if someone shows a group of radicals, they will jump on that as fast as anything else. I suspect, and people in D.C. have said that radical groups may well have taken advantage of the initial "insult" to provoke more violent action and cover their tracks. That does NOT explain all the other countries joining in on the protests. It is likely that more radicals are encouraging the protests, but that does not make them planned beyond the initial wave in Libya.
Duke5343 it was the Republicans complaining the the administration was not doing enough to help the arab spring so stop lieing and tell the truth just right now the republicans are complaining the administration is not doing enough to help Syria so when the topple that dictator and the new regime does not like the US Im sure you will be back on here blaming Obama for this to. It`s amazing how the truth and facts mean nothing to you people.
This was planed end of story, The Inept one (as usual) was either golfing, taliking to the fat women on the view or (most probable) had his head in his A$$. Oblunder and his crew of crooks have done nothing but try to ruin this country. Forward ??? more like failure, what a dismal job he hes done while spewing false promises to america
its hard to believe that the sheep still follow
Current Adminstration as they DONT want to admit they helped to Free those nations that are now turning on US.
I see a bunch of protester, but i dont see any "nations" turning against us.
We hekped NATO free Libya, and the Libyan government is pro America.
By the way, Bush started this Arab spring crap when he invaded Iraq.
Bush wanted all these countries to be free and democratic.
He got what he wanted didnt he ?
Egypt after 30 years finally got to "vote" for a president in a fair election
and they chose the Muslim Brotherhood.
Thats democracy.
Careful what you wish for.
And seriously this was bound to happen! I was really surprised when they helped Libyan and Egyptian fanatics.
At this point Leon and obama should just butt slap each other for their shortsightedness!
Where do you get this information – in your dreams? Turn on the tv – pick any station you want CNN – FX – PBS – Clinton went on record publicly last week that the protests and violence were planned and that some protestors were paid to participate. The Libyan government agrees – the Egyptian president on the one hand agrees that some protestors may have been paid but still claims that violence was not planned (to excuse his inept initial response). Do you dislike the administration so much that you just make up positions that feed your pov and then convince yourself they are actually true?
just bring on the Crusades. let's get it on you middle east loser. Muslims hate the Americans and now we hate you. We're done making peace so let's just get this Crusade over with. We're done reasoning with you because you're all irrational and will never be civilized. one day we Americans will have a president with some balls to rain the nukes down on your sorry asses.
I completely agree with Duke5343. This was a coordinated attack against the U.S. in Libya, Egypt, and other middle eastern countries. Why try to deny it. They hate us. And it doesn't go back to a stupid movie trailer on the internet. It goes back to the Crusades when Europeans conquered the holy land in the name of Christianity. And the battle between Christians and Jews against Islam continues and will continue forever. The Obama administration needs, as usual, to find a scapegoat to pin the blame, and some irrelevant movie maker now finds himself in jail. Obama, the arrogant, can't admit that his kiss ass treatment of muslims was a complete failure and disaster. Muslims understand only one thing and that is power. I hope
Obama was watching muslims burn his photograph along with our flag. And how strange it is that Obama despite his busy campaign schedule has time to meet with the Muslim Brotherhood but not the time to meet with Netanyahu. Obama makes me sick to the stomach.
The Western world has become a bunch of ignorant fools. We seem to believe that our values and culture is universal and applies to people in other cultures. It does not. We are foolish for helping them in any way. We are foolish for letting them into our nations.
Native Americans made the mistake of being friendly to a group of settlers. Never could they have imagined that MILLIONS more would come and wipe them out. We are now the Native Americans. We allow anyone and everyone in to our country and will soon pay the price. We call ANYONE who is against immigration a racist or a bigot. But again, we think our culture applies to them. We think that THEY will want to live like US once they get here. But that is not happening. THEY live in enclaves, separate from the western society they live in. They do not like us.
You are absolutely right, the Muslim culture and Western culture are indeed incompatible. The only thing I differ with you is that there are immigrant who come to this country and become immersed in the culture and also become part of the fabric of this society. I came to this country 15 years ago from Egypt and I'm proud to be an American first and an Arab second. I don't know the solution to this problem (muslims), maybe the government has to have some rules in place to make sure that newcomers become part of this culture. Maybe not allowing muslim women to wear hijab? If they insist to wear it, then we should send them back to where they came from. The entire western culture is endangered, especially in Europe. They have to wake up or it will be too late. Ex Muslim
This statement should be mandatory reading for EVERY Democrat. Then they should be made to live in Dearborn Mich for a year to understand what they have created.
Agreed that the US values are indeed incompatible with those in the arab world. But the filmmaker made his film in the USA and uploaded it on youtube which is indeed owned by an american company. So the arabs have no reason to to get angry. By the same yardstick the US should be able to shut down any anti-american video in any other part of the world. And what about the "Death to America" protests that happen routinely in the arab world? And if american culture is indeed so incompatible with middle-east values why do so many of them immigrate to the US. Why are so many arabs going crazy over an amateur video being uploaded in the US?
You hit the nail on the head!
I am so sick of religion(s), that I could just puke.
I think u hit the nail on the head
Dude, pick up a couple of history books and try reading. The fact that there is currently a violent extremist arm to Islams is not evidence that it will always be so. Ever heard of the Crusades? The Inquisition? Just as Christianity changed over time, under the influence of governments that gave more freedom to people, Islam will most likely do the same. Look at how much some of the other 'less mature' religions have changed in the last 100 years due to societal pressure. Mormonism, for example, has ended their support of polygamy, allowed non-white races to become followers, etc. The smartest thing we can do is be open and communicate with the people who practice Islam, to show them that they can practice their faith with no threat from the West. This will lead to the reduction of the radical elements.
Replying to DougW: You mentioned the Crusdaes ; when a Christian or a Jew kill someone they are not acting based on their religion teachings, but when a Muslim kills someone he is totally loyal to his teachings.
Please check this Quoran verse:
[2.190] ...fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you...[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
The point is that people make mistakes, they get angry and they do stupid things. But this is completely different. These Muslims who killed and injured many today are only loyal to their book. Any assault on Islam or the prophet is considered a huge attack, to which they have to respond. This is what's causing this violence all over the world.
I wish it was a simpler problem, it's not the Muslims, it's Islam.
Beg to differ. There are millions of muslims that have immigrated to the US. They are physicians, engineers, MBAs (like myself), pharmacists, business owners, and yes even starting to appear in politics. I am a first generation American. My children were born here and already only speak english. They are in Boy Scouts, go skiing and biking with muslim and christian friends alike. Yours is a very narrow view formed by watching flashy news. The reality for 99% of muslims is very different. Peace.
Zactly. Fareeds words: "The clash of civilizations exists between those who want to burn American embassies and those who want to partner with them in building modern societies. We have a stake in who wins that struggle." Why do we have a stake in what happens on the other side of the world? This is the Western Hemisphere and they are back there – in the Eastern Hemisphere. We have a Western Civilization and they have an Eastern Civilization. Who decided we need them or they need us? Who decided they must be same as us? A few extremists in our civilization who want to rule the world, not the average American in North or South America. Our ancesters – EUROPEANS – left The Old World 500 years ago because it sucked back then and it still sucks today – why? OVERPOPULATION. We didn't do it to them and we are dumb as a box of rocks if we let them do it to us. FORTRESS AMERICA. Think.
You have one planet.
Instead of lifting people up,
you want to keep drawing lines in the sand.
Before you attack them,
maybe you should evolve.
The "moderates" who want to build a modern society might not necessarily be our friends either. Just because a country wants a high level of technological development doesn't mean they're pro-US by default. Stalin wanted a modern society, Hitler wanted a modern society...
We're ignorant in thinking that anyone who isn't an 8th Century Taliban reactionary is somehow a friend of the United States.
The Muslim Brotherhood, HAMAS, Hezbollah...all very modern movements in their promotion of technological and economic development. All are somehow anti-Western though...
Let's stop pretending that anyone that isn't actively trying to kill us is a good guy. Indeed, the WORST Islsmists might be the more patient ones who realize it's better to methodically build a modern army to destroy the West than to engage in spontaneous acts of terrorism.
"""The fact that there is currently a violent extremist arm to Islams is not evidence that it will always be so. Ever heard of the Crusades? The Inquisition? """
You have a point, though you seem to be misinformed about the Crusades. At least Christianity has gone through a reformation period and has been grudgingly dragged into the 21st century.
Islam has experienced nothing similar. and remains in the 7th century.
The Crusades, by the way, were the Christians' belated responses to aggression and land acquisition by the Muslims, who had an unfortunate need to hijack Christian shrines and block off pilgrimage routes.
Kind of like what Muslims do now (remember the Buddhist monuments they destroyed just a few years ago?). Same thing, different century..
We had violent protests last Sat in the Sydney CBD_we are being fed the old 'just a few extremists'_ I don't believe that
for a minute_nor do I believe that the movie trailer was to blame_they are overly histrionic sheep – we should never have
allowed so many to settle in this country_ the live in enclaves-and think they have the right to tell us Aussies what to do
and insist on Sharia law?. If you tried to tell the Politicians and bleeding heart humanitarian's you well labeled as a racist.
Believe me i have sent email after email to many politicians and didn't even so much get a reply except from one, who
said i should be happy re our multi-culturalism as now we have different food to eat? duh!...
You hit your head with a nail! And then smashed it repeatedly with a hammer. I'm pretty sure that's how you sustained the brain damage necessary to make such a comment.
For sure is a small minority, but the bigger problem is that the mayority is afraid to express disagreement with the minority elements.. only a few people deared to show support for the US during the demostrations in bengazy.. but a few is a start..
I saw alot of this, but unfortunately you have to dig deep in the news to find it. There are almost no news stories regarding the protests condemning the killings.
Remember this is less than 1% of 1% of the muslin community. However, they get a lot of press and are what we see in the news. Also, don't forget that this is a common theme and they hate ANY that are not their type of Muslim; that includes Americans, Jews, Buddhist, and other Muslims. They are evil and most important, they are not intelligent people. They are uneducated and fueled by violence and frustration. That said, we need to act on their behavior; they only listen to violence. It is the only communication tool available to us non-muslims. Our Government should be swift and strong in their action against any American interest.
OK lets assume 1% = 2,000,000
2 million radicals!!
To edmund – there are less than 0.01% of the Muslims worldwide rioting. There are 1.5 billion of us. For easy math sake, lets say 1 billion.
That means 100,000 out of 1.5 billion.
I am sure there are more people rioting over soccer matches and sports here in the USA (combined) than that figure.
Wake up. There are wars in Muslim lands; Israel is trying to gin up support for US to go to war with Iran (not them, mind you but Americans!! Since when is Israeli blood more precious than American??), so there HAS to be an "other" so there is support for these wars.
What you say is like a slap on the face, the smaller you make that percentage of violent Muslims to be, the more bizarre it is to see them making the law in the land. Such a large majority could have discouraged them effortlessly. But they didn't!! Because the majority's hate for Western values is just simmering beneath the surface.
And this is why, when a few extremists people ignite the violence, the majority rather joins in than discourage them.
Americans extremest take look what you did
- Your had 9/11 for one day, but Muslims observing that 9/11 every day 24/7 for your attacks including drone attack. Sept 11 was not done but Muslims. Bin Laden was your friend, wasn't a Muslim leader. Only few people in Afghanistan knew him.
- You repeated HOLOCAUST once again during Iraq war. You killed 5 million people without any reason. Your president lied and didn't get WMD. But how Hippocrates you are, you sill support President Bush.
- Drone attack can't resolved this problem, 2 billion people will hate you from their soul.
- Drone is not a solution but beginning of new war.
Bin Laden was never our "friend". The U.S. government trained him and his ilk to fight the Russians for our own interestes. He took that training and oppressed his own people and attacked the U.S. The Iraq war was fought under false premise and I hated that we were even there when we should have been hunting down Bin Laden and sticking his head on a pig pole.
I would love it 100% if my government would pull all aid from every single Arab country, santion you all like we're doing to Iran, stop selling you food and sit back to watch each of you starve and kill eachother like you've done for thousands of years.
I feel sorrow for Muslims that wish to progress and join the civilized world. You are only keeping your own people down and destroying your own peoples ability to join the world and prosper. Keep it up. You're killing yourselves with every waking moment. I'll continue to go to work and make a living just like I do every day while your consuming yourselves with hatred every day. It doen't change my lifestyle at all.
You are right I wish the U.S never entered, the shiite and sunnis were doing just fine killing each other before the u.s came.
@PunkMonk, which world you are living? That is the problem. You Americans now sinking in a loan occasion and do you understand why you are payment billions of dollar as aid? Because, you have interest there. The reason you supported Arab dictators' because you can sell arms and get poor people's assets. Just tell you an example, around 1 year ago, Saudi Arab and UAE brought billions of dollars arms from USA to stimulate you economy. Remember, Arab spring is not done by CIA. Evan CIA had no knowledge about ARAB spring.
If you are thinking, we can live without doing business with 2 billions of people, then you are living in fools world. 2 Billion is almost half of the world. Just think what would happen, if Arab world stop giving you oil. Your economy is already done and if they stop it, You have no other way but do war again by going another Arab country.
You Hippocrates killed millions of people by the name of Sept 11 and I think Sept 11 done by US government. Any comment you idiots?
I personally would LOVE to stop buying "your" oil. I'm tired of funding terrorism everytime I fill up at the gas pump. As for Iraq, well we could have just left them with their happy, friendly dictator and that would have been fine with me. Unfortunately, the American people have no say in what our government chooses to do and that is the real problem. As for you and yours I would gladly give you what you wish if I were in power. I would SEVER ALL TIES with the lot of you.
And as you starve and kill eachother your common man and woman will come to my country to have a bite to eat, a glass of water and join the workforce to pay taxes here for our schools, library's, hospitals and military and enjoy life to watch their children live long enough to go to college and have a productive life.
You're clearly delusional. You can't even spell! The word you are trying to spell is hypocrites, not Hippocrates, who is considered the father of medicine. Thanks for showing everyone how ignorant you really are lol!!
Mohammed – When a Christian or a Jew kill someone they are not acting based on their religion teachings, but when a Muslim kills someone he is totally loyal to his teachings.
Please check this Quoran verse:
[2.190] ...fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you...[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
The point is that people make mistakes, they get angry and they do stupid things. But this is completely different. These Muslims who killed and injured many today are only loyal to their book. Any assault on Islam or the prophet is considered a huge attack, to which they have to respond. This is what's causing this violence all over the world.
I wish it was a simpler problem, it's not the Muslims, it's Islam.
They hated us anyway, but now they can't do anything about it. Not all Americans hate moslems. This wasn't another holocaust, people haven't been rounded up, put into concentration camps, and made to provide slave labor for their killers. Bin Laden declared this war and the Taliban refused to hand him over. That made them accomplices to his crimes. Why do the religious leaders of Al-Queda tell others to fight and die, but they're too cowardly to set the example by doing it themselves? Back in the Crusades, the priests weren't too good to take up the sword personally. I'm sorry for all the innocent bystanders who were killed by both sides.
Bin Laden was never trained by the US and received no assistance from the US. He was fighting on the same side as people who received assistance from the US. Not the same thing at all.
@ Mohammad- you call Iraq a holocaust, but the majority of the killing was Muslim vs. Muslim in a civil war. The UN has the numbers to prove it.
I think maybe Mohammed meant Saddam – or maybe he has Saddam and Osama bundled up into 1 guy. He is right about Saddam. He was just your run of the mill Bathist ruthless dictator – barely a practicing Moslem. That the Bush administration was able to convince so many Americans so easily that there was a connection between Saddam and Osama and that Saddam had some interest in gihad is evidence of the ignorance of the American people about the history and geography of the Middle East and Asia. Saddam had 2 interests – power and oil. Maybe the US made a mistake not letting him take over Kuwait and then Saudi Arabia – then maybe Syria. His natural enemy was Iran. Of all the leaders who would not have allowed Iran to get Nukes – he was right there with Israel. Go figure.
@ Egyptian Girl and @Mohammad
To put this in a context where the Muslims or Islamists would stop their graven mistakes is this:
I read your posts, Listen from what I learned through recent articles the Quran tells the Muslims or "Islamists" to kill Unbelievers. WELL GUESS WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN POPULATION BELIEVE IN GOD!!!!!! that means we are BELIEVERS in God which means the Muslims and Islamists are going against their own book because they are killing beleivers.Which means God doesnt approve of their horrible actions! TRY PEACE!
Mohammed, Sure 9/11 happens everyday in muslim countires, only NOT by the US but by your own 6th century jihadi fascists and backwards thinkers. As for Fareed, you have already been publically exposed as a LIAR. That you have any forum at a all seems bewildering, except when you remember your "holy" book allows lying and false representation in order to gain ANY advantage. Get lost you loser!
Mr. Young is correct. There are too many coincidental unanswered questions in this story. Is this whole episode contrived? If so, for what purpose? Who would benefit?
It's a main point of political expediency that domestic support for a leader, whether he be wise or wicked, is generated when an external or foreign threat is perceived. Add this to the fact that the incidents began on a day of remembrance significant to Americans only (9/11) and you've got some serious questions being asked but not answered.
Add to this that the White House LIED about not knowing ahead of time that these things would happen. Staff and families were evacuated days before. NO story about the tragedy includes possible injury, kidnapping or insult to any member of embassy staff or family. There isn't a story because they weren't there; evacuated prior to the events.
There is a truth here and lots of hidden lies.
but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
If 9/11 is significant to Americans only, then why does Al Qaeda release a video on Al Jazeera every 9/11 anniversary? The videos are rarely played in America, so we aren't the target audience. Apply Occam's Razor before you over complicate the influences behind these protests. If you start with the idea that the US was behind this, but it takes a clumsy, heavy argument to support it, then you're probably wrong. As far as who benefits the most, clearly it isn't the US administration, which is being battered in the US media by this.
American extremest take look what you did
- Your had 9/11 for one day, but Muslims observing that 9/11 every day 24/7 for your attacks including drone attack. Sept 11 was not done by Muslims. Bin Laden was your friend, wasn't a Muslim leader. Only few people in Afghanistan knew him.
- You repeated HOLOCAUST once again during Iraq war. You killed 5 million people without any reason. Your president lied and didn't get WMD. But how Hippocrates you are, you sill support President Bush.
- Drone attack can't resolved this problem, 2 billion people will hate you from their soul.
- Drone is not a solution but beginning of new war.
When a Christian or a Jew kill someone they are not acting based on their religion teachings, but when a Muslim kills someone he is totally loyal to his teachings.
Please check this Quoran verse:
[2.190] ...fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you...[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
The point is that people make mistakes, they get angry and they do stupid things. But this is completely different. These Muslims who killed and injured many are only loyal to their book. Any assault on Islam or the prophet is considered a huge attack, to which they have to respond. This is what's causing this violence all over the world.
I wish it was a simpler problem, it's not the Muslims, it's Islam.
You are exaggerating the casualties in the Iraq War by at least an order of magnitude. Most serious estimates put the toll at something like 150,000. And there has never been anything remotely approaching an attempt at genocide, which is what the Holocaust was.
@Mohammad, The problem is that you see every attack on any muslim nation or muslim individual as an attack on 2Billion muslims. We see it as an attack on a extremists group or a bad element that is a threat to us or caused harm to us, irrespective of their religion. You are too biased and opiniated. You are vouching for 2Billion muslims and their behavior. Let me tell you about a lady I met in one my flights who is a Hindu Brahmin Pandit a native of Kashmir, whose family was killed, home destroyed by her muslim neighbors, she does not dare to go back to Kashmir her ancestral home. What do you say for that? What do you say for the Christian teenage girl who was arrested and put into jail for blasphemy in Pakistan? Do you really believe that all these behaviors are the doing of western world? Or are these your "pipe imagination" ?
"ALL Muslims clerics" called for the violence? there's the problem right there. ALL englishmen drink tea, ALL chinese kids are great at math, ALL americans favor gun violence.
And Bruce M you are the only one who is spreading love here.
Fareed has plagarized again. This time it's the Obama Administration's take on the protests. Listen to the president of Egypt's take: it's al qaida and anger over US intervention in the middle east, as well as the killing of bin laden. So much for spiking the ball, huh, Mr. Obama?
Plagiarist.
The Arab Spring has nothing to do with this other than it was a movement that allowed the common people to speak out for the first time in regards to their personal views on freedom and liberation.
These are POVERTY Protests..thats al;l they are
Sure they are poor, but that's not all.
Please check this Quoran verse:
[2.190] ...fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you...[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
These Muslims who killed and injured many are only loyal to their book. Any assault on Islam or the prophet is considered a huge attack, to which they have to respond. This is what's causing this violence all over the world.
I wish it was a simpler problem, it's not the Muslims, it's Islam.
@ EgyptianGirl who quoted the verse in the quraan
You left out a piece from your quote. the correct translation is:
2:190 "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors." (You left out the entire second half of the verse)
you got Verse 2:191 right
However 2:192 and 2:193 needs to be mentioned to put in context.
2:192 "And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
2:193 "Fight them until there is no persecution and worship is for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors."
By quoting out of context you are no better than the mad clerics that defame the religion and give the wast the idea that Islam is evil.
you second bunch of quotes you again left out the end of the verse
9:12 "And if they break their oaths after their treaty and defame your religion, then fight the leaders of disbelief, for indeed, there are no oaths sacred to them; fight them that they might cease."
The next verse
9:13 "Would you not fight a people who broke their oaths and determined to expel the Messenger, and they had begun [the attack upon] you the first time? Do you fear them? But Allah has more right that you should fear Him, if you are [truly] believers"
Its a normal reaction of Violence begets violence. There is nothing wrong with defending your honor or faith.
Please stop quoting from the Quraan if you are not going to keep it in context or Quote the full verse.
We ARE organized and we ARE fighting back, we are VOTING NOVEMBER 6th and getting the a hole out of the w hite house.
yes, you must be FURIOUS about yearly GDP rising every year Obama's been in office.
What about the mob mentality associated with the NFL? Why would anyone waste 4 hours of their life to watch a 1-hour game? Or pay $200 to attend? Or $50 for a ceramic bubble head doll of the millionaire they "admire" for being very large and wearing tights on Sunday? Some of these millionaire buffons free ride through college without being able to read, and people are paying their hard-earned cash to watch them dance around and hit each other for about 15 minutes of actual playing time, over 4 hours. A dumB fella is born every moment.
More drivel from the Muslim Plageriser himself, Fareed!
Why would anyone care what Fareed thinks about anything? It is hard to understand why he wasn't fired by CNN and Time for his deceptive acts. Credibility and trust are traits that a journalist should possess, even a pseudo-journalist like Fareed. He has neither. The fact that he still has a forum to speak and attempt to influence US citizens speaks volumes about the two media powers, CNN and Time.
Fareed is well off. The same thing was happening in Iran in the late 70's... It was a small group of agitators from the University that kicked off the whole thing and pretty much it was for many of the same reasons... They felt pretty sure the U.S. would do nothing, and they were proven right!!! The U.S. buckled and begged for forgiveness, which makes the perpetrator's ego to grow and try more of the same.
The western world trembles with Islams rise. Behead those who insult the Prophet.
Here we go again! Death to the Infidels!
But are you and your people infidels or am I with my people the infidels?
In the muddied politics of the world wouldn't it be simplier if we sent a few people to your most remote desert armed with swords, maces ,saifs and scimitars to fight to the death? The only problem is that your tribe has vowed to destroy my tribe as a key to enforcing Sharia justice.
Really?? Your a buffoon. Its people like you who bring a bad name on the Faith. Shame on you. May Allah give you proper guidance and destroy that which has infected your heart. insha-allah ameen
Muslims will never live in peace in a Western world; the "behead all those...etc etc" thats exactly the sign a five year old
boy held in the riot that happened on Sat in Sydney_the police interviewed her and decided that she was just plain stupid.
Religion is the opium of the masses_Islam has no place in a democracy, as a true democracy has a division between church and state_Islam has no such division. How a nation of 2billion believe is a mystery to me. I believe in the dream time, and spirits of country, and there only 300,000 Australian Aboriginals in this country, but the Muslims are quickly
catching up.
I agree with you 100%, just look at the Tea Party movement. Just a bunch of illiterate sheep!
What is so illiterate about being Taxed Enough Already. First, you must have some smarts to earn enough to be taxed and second why not be irritated when someone takes and wastes your hard earned money. The fools are the ones drinking the spiked koolaide. Spend baby spend like their is no tomorrow and your children will someday hate you for handing them your problems.
It was not the American embassy burning in Benghazi, it was a Consulate that was "guarded" by a couple of locals, not US Marines. It was extremely unfortunate, but a very bad decision on the part of the Ambassador or his aides to go there without proper security. It only took a few crazies to overwhelm the "guards" and now we've got this terrible mess; four US diplomats dead, screaming headlines in newspapers and TV news across the globe. It could have been different.
The Arab spring looks like a well planned way to get the extemist in charge of every country in the middleeast with exception to Israel. They are now well armed with weapons, and with Iran's nukes ready to fulfill their prophecy of the big battle between good and evil. Looks like the believers will make sure the prophecy happens.
Did you even read this article?
Bruce, the majority of muslims are not anti-American or anti-western..........but it seems their anger on America is mostly because of its unwavering/tacit support for Israel.....in my opinion, rightly or wrongly, it's a sad fact! If somehow we settle this Palestinian problem through peaceful means then I believe most, if not all, problem would be solved. If only can world powers settle this question by creating two nations living side by side in peace?
KaosinBloom, lumping the tea party with the occupy movement is just wrong. You are making the same mistakt the protestors are making. They listen to their religious leaders and just don't think for themselves. You seem to be listening to the politician's that dislike the occupy and tea party. They dislike them for their own personal and polical reasons. Take the time to learn about both – you might be surprised what you find. The middle east suffers because the people are actually following the doctrine put in place to control them. This doctrine is less about religeon and more about power.
I find it fascinating that the media always reports protest and soldier deaths under Bush. And, now, they do not report the number of deaths in Afghanistan or the protests against Obama and America under this administration. Talk about selective bias!!!
The problem with American and So called Western world they don't understand religion them selves. I really don't understand the Jews why they are so much anti Muslim. Have seen any Muslim making movie Against, Prophet Mosses, Prophet Jesus, Mother Marry. (we can't even think like that)
But here is the Nation of Prophet Mosses who just believe in Torturing other believers. No one can make any movie or even write article about the holocaust because they say it will hurt Jews feelings but while they are making fun of other Religion and prophets , what they say About Prophet Jesus is also very well know to all now they are Making such harsh movie to make Muslims go made. Now the world should make standard the no religion in world should targeted like Muslim are been target right now.
So, did I get this right? Muslim media doesn't defame things that are held sacred in the West or in Israel? Obviously you've not seen Hamas television with a "Mickey Mouse" that encourages children to kill in the name of Jihad. Nor have you seen the Elders of Zion series in Egypt that tells Muslims in that country that Jews are practicing child sacrifice. Nearly every Muslim country has hate programs running regularly on the air - on state-sponsored television no less. Stop the lies and the pitiful false victimization please!
I think there is a serious problem of difference in religious thinking here. Muslims think that an insult to prophet PBUH is the most important issue, I being a muslim also endorse the same. This can be equated to holocaust denial being a crime in some countries. Same way insult to prophet PBUH is a serious crime in muslim society. If any country declares denial of holocast as a crime and insult to prophet PBUH as a freedom of speech issue, I feel there is a serious problem.
The truth does not get affected by any amount of false stories being spread and can withstand any amount of criticism. Its only lies that need to be protected by laws restricting free thought and speech.
Thank you for trying to differentiate between problematic groups and the general people who don't want violence, don't want war, and don't hate the US. I hope the American audience realizes these differences and doesn't get sucked into inflammatory remarks and bad choices, which would only further empower the groups who are violent and 'cancerous'.
If you don't want violence and you don't hate Jews and Americans, then let's see you stand up and be counted. Otherwise shut the F****up.
What is it that makes your life count? What do you stand for? Reply well or be seated.
Rather amuzing, Geff?
But if you hate arabs, spew away! Right? All you anti-arab bigotry is welcome here.
For those of you who don't get sarcasm... I'm being sarcastic!
EXAAAAACTLY CORRECT sir.
Not just arabs, but muslims in general.
Jesse, great comments, I totally agree with that.
The biggest bigots are the islamics themselves. They hate us deeply. You are a fool and a snob ot think that our values apply to them.
There is MUCH immigration FROM the islamic nations into western nations.
There are LITTLE immigration from the western nations into the islamic nations.
I hope you are an American who realizes that, most of the impression that we get is from media who show the abnormal. No one wants to cover the everyday life of people in Bengazi who want peaceful life as anyone else.
I just moved from an apartment in the U.S. where the complex was overrun with Egyptian Christians. I'll say this, I"ve experienced various Arab cultures and viewpoints in the U.S. over the years. living with these people was unpleasent and a little frightening. The overall culture is disagreeable with the way I would prefer to live. Having 7 years old boys talking down to me as a woman as I take the garbage out in the evening and men sneering at me while they hang outside in the parking lot till 1:00a.m. in numbers of 12-18 on a Tuesday night, hearing domestic fighting every other night and having their male children harrassing my 5 year old girl is NOT the culture which I want to live in or have anything to do with, thank you very much. We moved away from there. My views of their culture is not based on the U.S. media. I have experienced their culture in the workplace and unfortunately, in a domestic manner. These are not quite, polite neighbors.
at least in iran they didn't burn the embassy down or kill anyone at the Swiss embassy. No violence broke off in their protest. Looking at the pictures in Lebanon, where they burnt a KFC down is shocking.
Call it "discerning palates." Popeye's is still standing...
I wish there was a like button.
And let them eat Chicken! Apparently they're telling us that they don't like the Colonel. That was stupid and the manner in which they are "protesting" is ignorant. Because, they're not protesting they are rioting.
you have a really good point
Oh no Fareed, the Libyans don't really hate you for bringing Al Qaida style democracy to their country. The Egyptians have had a peaceful transition to democracy. Its just a few extremist elements with no popular support! What planet are you on? Americans are either propping up arab dictators or bombing them back to the stone-age. Their hate for you is perfectly rational and justified.
::::scratching head...::::
Damned if we do, damned if we don't. You just have to keep doing what you think is best.
or just ignore thenm and dont do anything.
Exactly what dictator did the US prop up in Libya? And how many Libyan cities have we bombed to the stone age lately?
" it's only a small minority". LMAO !!!
I agree, if there is only a small group that hate the U.S. and want to kill all of us, then why aren't the majority of the Muslim world shutting down these few radicals. Instead the are complicit in their silence. Islam is not love.
Because they don't want to get involved, same as the 70% of Americans who avoid politics like the plague but won't miss the next episode of DWTS for anything.
That is because those same "Anti-American" hate groups are more than willing to publicly execute any Muslim who speaks out against them based on a charge of Blasphemy.
There are no peaceful Muslims they are dormant. There are no extremist Muslims they are only following the instruction of the quo ran. This is not a minority uprising. The last time the world shrugged their shoulders at a seemingly small scuffle amongst a nation/ideology MILLIONS of people were killed. Hello...Nazis, Jew hatred...wake up people.
Agree. When it's a couple of thousand it's only a small minority, but when it's a few hundred OWS protesters then the nation is at arms... they'll try anything to spin the story. Several thousand IS significant. You don't get that many people together, organized and willing to incite violence for some abstract reason.
"OWS protesters?" This tirade has nothing to do with OWS. Go to occupywallst.org and find out what they are involved in before labeling terrorist with honest and peaceful protesters.
OBAMA AND HILLARY SHOULD BE GUARDING EMBASSY AT ARIB SPRING! BAM
Is this what passes as muslim humor?
No, it tacky Republican humor.
Six year old Arab Republican ?
In our time, 100% we witnessed America spent more energy, time and materials, to liberate Libya from the old regime in to the current regime.
It is a fresh start, new leadership for those who were eagerly waiting by standing with US to see the bright future they got in-handy, NOW!!!
So, what they supposed to pay in return to US? Without US help, they will never win the Qàddafi regime.
The Muslim system of helping those in need is the strongest one. We need to enable this system and allow for help to reach those in need. The Arab Spring is meant to produce help to ALL that need it. Extremism is just a side show that muffles the real challenge. Lets make some good news and stop kidding ourselves.
Oh, I almost forgot, Go team Fareed!
The islamic world would not offer us any help if we needed it.
The islamic world wants islam to spread throughout the world.
We will reap NO BENEFITS from helping the islamic world and our societies will only become fragmented
as we allow them into our nations.
Why can't all of these protesting countries make local laws like India, Indonesia so that Google can't broadcast it through youtube in their countries? That's much smarter than having an endless discussion which would led to nothing.
Here in the U.S. it is called Freedom of Speech.
FYI, Indians are protesting the ban on the movie. Being an American who was born in India, I can tell you, it was the high handedness of the government that took this step. It is called censorship...not freedom of press!
Slech! no thank you, that would be going backwards. Having a conversation is better than violence. When people stop communicating blood flows.
I doubt many Muslims actually watched the movie.
They "heard" that it was anti Islamic and went nuts.
Maybe they should all be forced to watch it.
True or not, i saw the movie,
most of it was true, and it seems that most "civilized" people
agree with it, even if it was wrong to make.
Followers of Islam should see what most people actually think about the religion.
Its not pretty.
So, instead of bashing the movie, use it as a learning tool.
Yeah, i know......fat chance.
These protests are about a bad movie about Islam. What if we censor it? Will this help? I don't think so. Why? Because the also dislike the way we treat woman. Do you want to take the vote away from woman? Take away their driver's license. We are not an Islamic country. I am sure that offends them? Do we just bow down to Islam? I think not.
All religions should be accepted and respected throughout the world. It is often through ignorance that we blame religion for our own shortcomings. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism all promote peace and good ethical values into society. It is our responsibility to uphold those values. This film was obviously created to promote violence and distributed by ignorant people who knew nothing about Islam. On the other hand, the killing of the US ambassador was another act of ignorance. Ignoring people's fundamental beliefs or killing innocent people will accomplish nothing but further violence. Is that the legacy we should leave for future generations?
Ferhat,
This film had nothing to do with what happened to American Embassy in Libya. This film had been on the Internet for months no one gave a crap about it. It's the so called "peaceful" Muslim extremists used it as a cover up for their planned terrorist attacks. Islam is not a religion of peace. it's a barbaric, violent religion that encourages women abuse, violates human rights and supports killing people in the name of speading itself.
The film had been on the internet for months and the problems started when it was translated. There's no proof that the embassy attack was planned before. What we know is that the embassy was attacked after the movie was translated and seen by Arabs. Islam is a religion of peace. Some small group of extremists interpret the Koran to suit their violent ambitions. That doesn't make the religion violent.
Sorry ferhat,
the people who made the movie only pointed out how you act.
Funny thing is, Muslims acted just the way the movie said they would.
With violence.
There are 2.1 Billion Muslims around the world. There are several thousand demonstrators of which only a handful are violent. The funny thing is that people like you believe those people represent all the Islamic people.
Ferhat respect is earned. It seems from what we have seen on every news channel that people in Islamic nations do not have the moral integrity to stand up to the Islamist mobs, then Islam does not earn the respect of western civilization. And by the way the number is more like 1.6 billion according to Pew Research.
Ferhat do not feel the need to answer anyone who do not generally make sense. There can be many people who enjoy rising up an argument on whatever subject. See... they attacked Fareed afterwards. They may sometimes become as boresome as the said film. Choose the common commenders of GPS you respect and and just ignore the rest.
Once again, and seemingly again and again, we are witnessing human hatred. It has always existed, and will always exist, because it is intrinsic to our human behavior. Hatred has no bounds nor borders, and is by mo means exclusive to any race or religion. It is clearly human. However, it certainly seems that hatred is more prevalent and/or visible in some places than others, which is only natural given all the elements that might be present to spur it on. This is part of the reasoning for the saying that "The meek shall inherit the Earth". And they shall, provided of course that the intolerance and hatred in people do not completely destroy it first while trying to destroy each other.
So if anyone wants to detest something, then detest hatred ! And if you don't want to put up with something, then stamp out intolerance ! How you might achieve all this is up to you, but for God's sake, just try to be a little compassionate about it!
At last, a comment that makes sense ..
Fareed plaigarizes. Look it up! He copies others' work. Take him off the air NOW!!!
Fareed Zakaria came under scrutiny after portions of his Time magazine column and a blog post on CNN.com were found to contain passages that were nearly identical to a piece in the New Yorker. Zakaria apologized for the incident, calling it a mistake. Both CNN and Time reviewed Zakaria’s work and found no further problems. He apologized and has returned to his show.
Dont feed the troll
He has been cleared.
STFU.
Fareed, I think there is something else apart from extremism here.
We can not refer 100s of thousands of muslims and their scholarly preachers coming on streets for protest as extremists. Important question is that what causes them to act in this way ? You can also ask your ownself-
what can you do to bring massive change in values of the people of your own culture and society ?
Jerry err Abdul, the only changes required is for the neutering of the muslim race.
That is uncalled for. This is an exchange of ideas not a place to pile hate on top of hate. Before you ask, I am an American Buddhist.
The "Muslim race"? Wow, I am surprised you could even manage to read the article.
This is exactly the kind of post that gives rise to the "Ugly American" perception. Fareed isn't writing to you; he knows that your ilk are a lost cause.
My "ilk", well isnt that kind of racist on your part
I thought you just said that every body should get together and then you insult me.
Which way is it my muslim friend?
You cannot have it your way and only your way all the time.
Muslin is not a race.
That's true,
Muslims will never treat someone with dignity and respect unless that person is also a Muslim. No tolerance exists in Islam.
Jerry is not abdull. Mr Farid is abdul
Think of the another meaning of my comments.
Jerry – sorry buddy.
I think the problem is more severe than this. When Muslims act violently against other religions/cusltures, it's because they are instructed by Islam to fight the unbelievers till they
1./ submit and either convert to Islam, or
2./ Pay a huge tax for keeping their original faith, or
3./ get killed. And that is if they won't convert and can't afford to maintain their original faith. And by the way, Option two was only given to Christians and Jews at the time of the prophet. If the unbelievers were worshiping status they either covert or be killed. Very clear and very simple rule. This is Islam.
9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low
Based on this verse what is called now the Muslim World was conqurred by the sword allover 1400 years and all minorities in those countries suffered prosecution and discrimination till today!
9:12 And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief – Lo! they have no binding oaths – in order that they may desist
This verse is a command from God to kill whoever dare to "assail" (criticize) Islam, that explains the violence you see from Muslims allover the world everytime there is such an instance like the Cartoons 2006 and the movie few days ago
Well said.
you are a big lier, muslem maintaned you and your religion all over the time, what you call jizia is much more less than the tax you pay in the states and it is equalivant to tax, and muslems paid maucm more than jizia, and look at your self, you remained in you religion for 1400+ years of islamic governing and not touch, while muslems in spain were killed like sheeps at the hands of christians, and were thrown out into sea, syudy history of saladdin who saved the lives of many christians warriors who were misled by their clerics and brought to fo fight muslems.
on the other hand, Us and its people is remarkabe, 99% of arabs and muslems love them and respect them though manyof Americans hate muslems, why I do not know, tell me how many American toursits were killed at the hands of arabs and muslems, no one.
they work in our countries get high salaries live freely go freely, and go and ask them
A few swallow do not make a Summer, and so it is with these organised riots. A tiny group of opportunistic radicals seize the occasion to exaggerate and inflame fellow believers. These extremists know it's not a difficult thing to do. And the only way they know how is to encourage the typical violence and destructions.
We have all been there before. Its all pretty standard reactions and expectations.
Im going for a walk in the park, for in there I will find real peace and love of my divinity.
Muslim will NEVER do or say anything against another muslim.
They may say they do not like those "bad" muslims but in fact they are lying.
What planet are you on,these people kill each other before breakfast and a good smoke,then reply that "THEIR GOD" told them its okay...............
Gene
Muslim will NEVER do or say anything against another muslim.
They may say they do not like those "bad" muslims but in fact they are lying.
Ask anybody in Syria if that is true.
Support the Infidel? Nooooooooooooooooooo – Kill them all
Support the brother muslim? Ok, until I need to kill him and his whole family
Obama gave these crazy nuts a voice and there you go. What a mess!!
Obama did not do anything of the sort.
Muslims will do what muslims want to do, by hook or by crook.
They had a voice long before Obama came along.
This has been going on for hundreds of years
and suddenly its Obama's fault ?
Oh, i get it, you are Republican.
Right.
The problem is Islam and the fact that Muslims take the Quran literally and have too much deluded faith on it. Islam needs to be weaken as much as possible. In these countries there is not much seperation of Church and State, Islams influence is pretty much everywhere in society and government.
There can be no separation of mosque and state in Islam. It is not just a religion, it is a system of governance, an ideology that is totally incompatible with the concept of freedom. In Islam, the only freedom is to submit to Islam, to submit to being ruled by Muslims, or to die.
They don't understand freedom as we do in the West; that one man's freedom ends where another man's freedom begins.
There is not only a cancer of extremism in the Middle East but also in the heartland of America.
What wars on Earth?
Border,
Ethnic,
Religious,
Gender,
.
.
.
I beg Mother Earth, to end its patience and to denied Sun, Moon and Air existences in its territories.
Fie on you for emploring the Mother to retribution.
It is perhaps the sense of insecurity that lead some religious people to protect their religion by using violence against others. They see this as their defence mechanism against infidels who doubt or mock their religion.
Their behavior is why people "doubt and mock their religion."
Fareed,
Why do you give voice to Paul Wolfowitz, a leading architect of the Iraqi War Fraud, and failed World Bank president. He has long been an operative of AIPAC and the Neocons. He is simply not a credible commentator, and his presence as such on your broadcasts discredits your journalism.
If you only have on people you agree with, you might as well watch MSNBC or Fox News. CNN is the most balanced news because of them having on people that disagree with other prevailing views. Even people we may loathe.
Bill, I respectfully disagree. Fareed's willingness to allow any and all opposing points of view is exactly the quality that lends credibility to a substantial debate. When we exclude people from debate based upon point of view, what's the point?
Hey Bill,
Please read the "Plan for a new American century" (PNAC).
Wolfowitz had a hand in writting it, along with Donald Rumsfeld.
You want to know why things are happening in this world.
Its all in thier plan.
Nothing happens by accident.
This was a very tragic event. A person who wanted to helped the Libyans and did was lost. But before we declare this the "end of the world" lets remember that more Americans get killed every day in Chicago than do in Afghanistan or Libya!
Democracy is long process measured in decades, not months!
Killed internally by accident or an illegal operation versus killed by muslims.
As an American who has lived in Egypt for 28 years, I would like to point you in the direction of Ben Wedeman, CNN's long-time correspondent in Egypt. He tells the story that I know – that the people rioting in Tahrir Square are the same ones who have been rioting there since about March/April of last year, replacing the original protesters. They are street youth, football hooligans who frequently cause disruption. We are fanning their flames by giving them so much airspace this time, but they are always there. The best help we can give this government is by helping them decide how to deal with them without the brutality that
He's part of the problem, the rich haves that look down on the poor have-nots.............the remnants of the British Empire Old Guard,and the French,Americans and anyone else who was making a fast buck off the ignorant
Fareed you're absolutely right. There is a cancer in Arab world, it's called "Islam"
And everyone gets a puppy.
Islam does need to learn from Christianity about what a peaceful religion is, we dont see any Christians going and burning mosques, temples, or killing people in the name of their religion. God does not want people to be violent to each other, we need to be more tolerant, understanding, and respectful to each other's beliefs.
Christians just try to pass laws against people they dont agree with.
Christians arent much better.
Fareed,
I'm suprised at you. It was the U.S. CONSULATE in Bengazi, not the U.S. Embassy as you stated in today's show. Embassies are located in capital cities.
Welcome to the age of fly by night journalism. It amazes me why this guy gets any air or even ink time?
Thank make at least two of us!!!!!
I suspect that are MANY more.
Also 0 his views are far left, even for CNN.
Haven't enough people been slaughtered over the centuries in the name of one religion or another? If these people would simply practice their religion and not try to jam their tribe's version down the throats of others, peaceful co-existence is possible. Every leader of every splinter group of every religion believes only their interpretation is correct and the death of those that do not believe the same is sanctioned(or is not condemned) by their religion. Self-righteous hate will destroy this world before a big rock from space exterminates us.
Fareed, thank you for speaking truth and putting this extremist minority violence in its proper perspective.
Was it really his truth or someone else's truth?
why did you interview Paul Wolfowitz and other neo-cons who got us into the iraq war? Wolfowitz, Dick Chaney, etc NEVER served one day in the military but they are quite willing to fight and have the us go to war. The neo-cons, all pro-war ivy league educated cowards. NONE even considered serving in the military. DISGRACE.
Fareed, watched your program as usual on sunday and was hoping for some idea of how the arab world is reporting the death of our ambassador and the film produced by an Egyptian coptic christian (not the U S Govt.) You typically sare views from around the world on important topics, in this case, Al Jazzeera.
This is NOT about conspiravy theory, but why is no one questioning the timing of these protests. Was this ridiculous video re-released with the necessary adjustments (language translation, availability etc...) and brought to the awareness of a vulnerable group of young people that were easily insighted?
Another strange timig: Israel's sudden push to start a war with Iran and Natenyahu's weird statemnts and implications about who has the "moral" authorty toead the US !!!
WHAT IS GOING ON and WHERE IS THE MEDIA WITH THE REAL QUESTIONS?
Israel has been raising the Iran issue for a very long time. But as to your question why are the real questions not being asked? Gee, what planet do you live on? Do you seriously think the liberal media is going to question anything President Obama says or does? If he says, we are loved by those who killed our Ambassador and Marines and burn our flag and that it is simply their frustration over a video then the media and us mindless masses must believe.
What media? We haven't had any true journalism for a long time. What I've read so far, and is being ignored by our government, is that Smith told his gamer friends that their "guard" was taking pictures of the embassy shortly before the attack. The government of Egypt tweeted in English that they denounced the riots but in Arabic praised them (caught by our government who then tweeted to them "hey, we read Arabic too". The Libyan president and the Egyptian government have said that these attacks were pre-planned and that both governments warned Obama's administration at least a week in advance. Knowing all of this, Susan Rice, the US Ambassador to the UN came out all weekend long and laid blame SOLELY on this stupid movie. Well, if a stupid movie riles up Muslims in the Mid East, than Islam runs totally counter to America's values and beliefs, so why are we even trying to "civilize" them?
Do you seriously think the liberal media is going to question anything President Obama says or does? If he says, we are loved by those who killed our ...
Obama said that ?
WOW !!
Idiot.
CNN has just as many articles against Obama, as for him.
You have eyes but you do not see.
I would like to comment on the comment by Matslats, who wrote “Americans are either propping up arab dictators or bombing them back to the stone-age. Their hate for you is perfectly rational and justified.” Well Matslats I understand your point, although this happened in the context of the cold war era, and if it wouldn’t have been the Americans propping up the Arab dictators it would have been the Russians, and the world might have been even a worst place than it is!
Someone that reads history! Bless you!
When statements issued by Al-Qaeda are more plausible thanThe Obama Amin's own propaganda something is very wrong, very very wrong indeed.
“Al-Qaeda says attack on U.S. consulate in Libya ‘revenge’ for death of its 2nd man”
“Al-Qaeda said the deadly attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya was in revenge for the killing of the network’s number two Sheikh Abu Yahya al-Libi, SITE Intelligence Group reported Saturday, as Libyan authorities have identified 50 people who were involved in the attack.”
“A spokesman for President Barack Obama said on Friday officials had no evidence the attack was pre-planned, an assertion which has added to confusion over the incident.”
“Immediately after the attack, U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, were quoted widely in the media saying they believed the attack was well-planned and organized.”
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/09/15/238197.html
Yeah, like you are going to be able to talk us into believing that AlQaeda is telling the truth and not the President of the United States.
Mary, you are a comedian.
Wow, Gene you are seriously in need of an Obama antidote. Many others are saying this was not spontaneous, at least for Libya and Egypt, and it is niave for our President to continue to claim otherwise.
You have to be in the payroll of the DP...
Wow, Sidb1980, I will say it again since you do not grasp concepts easily.
I would trust Obama over some muzzie murderer anytime.
Get it?
Everyone is very aware of the fact that the attacks we planned, no one is disputing that. I would prefer that the Administration NOT pander and pass on these statements publicized by Al Queda. The U.S. government is not here to advertise their message for them. Do you really think that it is the best interests of America that the president disclose all of his plans of action in regards to these attacks to the world public?
It's not smart to have the Administration pass on messages from the Taliban to the peoples of the world. I'm glad that they are refraining from this and proceeding with intelligence before just randomly bombing and killing people all over the region like good 'ol Georgie Bushy would have done.
Paul Wolfowitz (never a reliable source, as we have learned....) was on GPS this moring saying that the U.S. Embassy in Cairo was "sacked" and "destroyed" when this is taotally false!!!!!!! This from a reporter in Cairo:Can we stop saying the U.S. embassy in Cairo was attacked? Several hundred protesters gathered around it. Some climbed the wall and grabbed the flag on the flagpole above the gate. None entered the grounds of the embassy itself. Subsequent street battles were between protesters (mainly soccer hooligans) and police. THE EMBASSY WAS NOT ATTACKED.
In fact, much of this protest isn't really anti-American, it is anti-everything, pent up, unfocused rage.
Did Fareed Zakaria actually write this all by his lonesome self?
Ya just gotta wonder these days.
I agree. Fareed plagiarized in the past, and I can't believe CNN and Time are permitting this. Anyone else would be fired. Of course, CNN is going to say he won't do it again. But to journalists and students around the world, this just shows that cheating is what gets people ahead. Shame on Fareed. Shame on CNN. How about we make the world a better place for a change??
In case you are not updated, a thorough investigation was conducted by Times and CNN. Fareed was cleared of being a habitual plagiariser.
That one incident was a genuine mistake – which Fareed has sincerely apologised for it.
Time to move on to newer things man.
You aint seen nothing yet, look up his record from India. Which you cannot on the internet. This is one shameless individual.
This stupid mad video was posted in Youtube 6 MONTHS before extremists (together with Al Qaeda?) discovered, or led to discover it in Youtube. This is a weapon they are looking for. So started the planning and timing to instigate the condemnaton of the video – which now cause a violence against Americans everywhere.
The video was lying unnoticed inside Youtube for 6 months.
This video therefore is no fault of USA or Americans. That said, Google must be held accountable for allowing it to be downloaded in their Youtube. I think, the mangers in Youtube knew it would raise hell for America but since its good for publicity, why not.
So, the riots and murdert of Ambassador Stevens was planned and executed to perfection because the Americans were caught unprepared.
When will many antiquated Arabs ever going to assimilate into an updated and evolving civilise world?
Why cannot they just leave their religion aside when dealing with the rest of the world?
Why must their religious fanaticism precede other more important aspects in life?
I think its time for them to concentrate more in improving their own people's lives. And in improving Muslim's mage if you will, instead of blemishing it with violent acts of violence, murder .... and sucide bombing.
Their perceived Holy Wars are not relevant in today's modern world. Because it is not helping anyone, especially your own kind.
Because it all revolves around who is the chosen people of God. Them or Israel. Abraham born Ishmael through Hagar a handmaid to his wife and Issac through his wife Sarah. The Arabs are offspring of Ishmael and the Israelites through Issac. Both claim the inheritance, but to man, the first born always inherits, but if you read the Holy Bible the first born never seems to inherit. It is always the 2nd or younger son. David, Solomon, Jacob, Joseph, etc. etc. So, they want Israel out of the equation and since US support Israel we are seen to be the enemy since we support Israel's claim as Jerusalem as their capitol. Frankly, the Arabs should focus on Medina or Mecca and let Israel have Jerusalem, but we know from prophecy that will take another world war to resolve.
QUESTION: IF we are to beleive the papers, TV, etc., that there are an est. 1.5 Billion Muslims, that ONLY a SMALL percentage are radical, terrorist, idiots, then WHY has the MANY been so silent? For ME, this SILENCE is daming!
Could it be that the radicals are in fact following the TRUE teachings of Islam & the Qu'ran? Is this why tthe MANY say nothing? Fatwahs are nothing more than RECOMMENDATIONS and are NOT religious edicts that must be obeyed!
WHY is it that their religious leaders SUPPORT the killing or their own people and the "infidels". buy NOT condeming these violent actions? The more the MANY remain QUIET the more I think that there are BIG problems with this religion!
SPOT ON! Spot on Ronvan. They are all complicit in their silence.
Good article Mr. Zakaria. The problem is that you are part of the Media that is feeding this hate machine.
By the same token, Zakaria might have argued, don't judge the United States by the insanity, hatred, bigotry, and ignorance of so many CNN commenters.
You leave out the part where if one angry demented CNN poster attacked and killed a CNN journalist he would be hunted down and put on trial by our judicial system.
well said
I can't believe they destroyed a KFC. All that fried chicken gone to waste. Such a shame.
They couldn't get ribs
OK, Sounds plausible.
The whole story is that essentially Muslims hate all non-Muslims and feel that it's their sacred duty to eliminate all non-Muslims from the face of the earth. Allah has made this dictate in the Quaran. There is no better way to honor Allah than to kill us. We are dogs to them, plain and simple. To them, it's an all Muslim world or bust.
This is targeted only to the small minority of Islamist trouble makers, if you are not one of them then please look away, thank you.
Mohammed the Prophet!!
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I appreciate your sense of humor.
I wonder if Fareed plagiarized this article.
How is this guy even working in the business any more, much less on CNN, much less having lead articles?
That is a VERY good question!!!!!
Plagiarism is a cardinal sin in journalism. Fareed got a slap on the hand at best.
I guess that is OK as long as he keeps taking positions that are at least 4 time zones left of CA.
Obviously there are no openings at MSNBS at the moment.
This layman concludes that the Benghazi attack was planned and well executed, despite what the government talking heads claim. I agree that it was a minority sentiment, but you'd think that with bin Laden dead, this 911 anniversary would be a troubled one for the US – Mr. Panetta should have known this. Of course, with interests so broad, it is unlikely that the US could protect everything asset from some kind of attack.
Protest may not tell the whole story Fareek, but neither does CNN.
Two sentences seem to contradict themselves in Fareed's commentary: "...the violence there appears to have been the work of small, extremist elements that lack much popular support." and "If the United States pulls out, the crazies will only get stronger." Fareed would have us believe that these countries have a large majority of peace-loving, tolerant people who need Americans to put their lives on the line because the peace-loving tolerant people just don't have the guts to stand up to the "crazies". If that is true then these countries will never be free.
In America we fought our own American Revolution. It was American blood and sacrifice that won the day.
Actually, if you take a moment to read any history book, you will find that American's did not win the Revolutionary war on their own (and most likely would not have won if we didn't get help).
Dear Fred: Interesting that today you have such a serious view of world events. Yesterday on your program you spent most of the program interviewing a guy that played basketball with the president. The segment was mostly you asking him "what was it like"? Journalism at its finest.
What BS. Mohamed Morsy is a leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organization. An organization that called for and organized these riots.
He's right... the protests don't tell the whole story. No one will address the issue openly in front of all the world. Ths Islamic world is ruled by thugs, crazies, and fanatics. This entire situation would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that people tend to get killed. Nothing but a pack of illiterate and uneducated animals.
it was always a slick marketing intiative...it was never good or achievable foreign policy...it was devised SOLELY to score pts with the "folks" at home, with wishful hopes of winning over the muslim world to then deleverage israel into a position of weakness all so obama could get any peace deal and look like a hero.
who advised him on this pathetic policy? the anti sems like power, zbigniew, malley, donilon, khalidi.
OK – somebody goofs on your prophet. Big deal. You don't accept Jesus as Massiah and savior. Insulting to Christians? Big deal. Andres Serrano's art. Big deal. Theocracy has never provided well being. Secularism is the answer – everywhere.
and the violence there appears to have been the work of small, extremist elements..... Yeah..AQ Now wait and see the IEDs and suicide bombers come out next.
Libya, you're welcome for the air strikes during your Arab spring.
Thanks for killing our people. You should be ashamed.
Mr. Zakaria,
While I agree the majority of the people in these countries would like our help, it is time for them to stand up and let the extremists know they aren't going to stand for this kind of behavior. If the people of Yemen, Lybia, and Egypt want U.S. help then they need to show us by standing up for what they believe in. Until then I think we need to pull our people and our help out of those countries until they decide what they want.
Media 24/7 coverage doesn't help.
I reject the idea that these are protests. Protesting is a very western way of look at things.
Until we really understand what is going on in the minds of those participating, we will not be able to come up with a successful way to deal with the problem.
...said a Jew about Hitler on its way to a concentration camp.
Let's face it: the divide is too great. The West will never truly be "friends and allies" with the mid-East. The best we can hope for is a temporary lull until the next perceived slight sets the whole process of flag burning and anti-Americanism into motion again.
When the Last Temptation of Christ came out, it was a poor portrayal, an inaccurate one of Christ. At least it was very inaccurate to many many believers. The worst they did when offended was protest and wave signs. And then people talked about how terrible they were because they were criticizing freedom of speech. But now, and this is the part I don't get... if this is going to be blamed on a film ....even if the film is awful, how can people say this is the filmmakers fault. it's only the fault of the people who acted the way they did. Just cause the culture doesn't understand freedom of speech even if its bad horrible speech does not mean the one making the movie is to blame. it's not on them. people are responsible for their own actions. even if the film was horrible.
This coordinated attack is pre-planned by frustrated Islamist who were losing ground on every front and has (almost) nothing to do with "the film" – that was just an excuse. Let's drill for our own oil and help Canada with theirs and make Meddle-East irrelevant.
Not that I'm one for Faux News normally but.... the administration is still trying to call this "spontaneous" while even the Libyan President is calling that theory "preposterous" based on the evidence.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/17/obama-administration-libyan-president-clash-over-explanation-on-consulate/
When will CNN be calling out the administration for making obviously false conclusions instead of ignoring the lies?
Never. The President of Libya clearly stated this was not spontaneous. People are blind to think otherwise, esp on 9/11. ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, PBS and all the other left wing media outlets will support and back the President instead of reporting facts so the mindless masses can make decisions. Not saying Fox isn't the same, but I at least get more to the story from them than from the Left leaning outlets. Appeasement doesn't work. This so called movie trailer is not the cause, but simply the excuse. There is more to this and it is true anti-American and anti-Israel mentality.
We need to demonstrate against the media. Americans want truth, not bias. I used to trust CNN to be a little more balanced but the pandering to the party line that these attacks are about a film only are preposterous. The jihadists may have used the film as a tool to fan the flames, but to say that it is the cause of this is ludicrous.
im tired of this "its a small group of extremists" non-sense. the deafening silence from the other 1.4 billion muslims on the planet speaks volumes.
Sort of like the silence of the other 2 billion Christians? It's ironic that many in our nation invoke the Christian roots of our society and government, but then remain silent when the Sermon on the Mount is ripped to shreds when our government acts contrary to its teachings.
"It's ironic that many in our nation invoke the Christian roots of our society and government, but then remain silent when the Sermon on the Mount is ripped to shreds when our government acts contrary to its teachings." you do release that the bible isnt codified into law here?
As (almost) always, Mr. Zakaria gives us what is amazingly absent from America-perspective. Too many in America lack this ability and have grown to jump to false, misleading, or ignorant conclusion based on what they wanted to believe in the first place.
"keep in mind that these crowds number in the hundreds – perhaps thousands – in countries with tens of millions of people"
Are these film protesters smaller or larger in number than, say, the number of Occupy Wall Street protesters, who got huge amounts of flattering coverage for their cause even though there really weren't that many of them? I mean, out of a nation of 310+ million, we were told a few OWS protesters reflected a body of opinion shared by the larger population.
Now, all of a sudden, when it comes to the protests in the Middle East that seem bigger than OWS, we're told this small number of of protesters is NOT representative of a larger mindset.
Double standard much?
Well, I've been doing a little "Quran" searching
and I think this is scary:
Quran (9:29) – "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
I'll tell you my man, if you think THAT is scary, you should read the whole enchilada. When the number of verses that exhort
Muslims to kill non-believers passes 100 THAT'S when it starts to get really scary. Now add the fact that these people believe every word in this POS and they're indoctrinated in it from DAY ONE of their lives, then you've REALLY got "scary".
See the problem is not muslims but ignorance. why cant people accept that islam for muslims is a sensitive subject and since christians and the rest of the relegions dnt believe in mohammed y would you make a film about him. you might be safe here at home in the united states but innocent good men and women like embassador steven and good troops have to get killed because of your ignorant actions. since yall believe in the first ammendment which is freedom of speech and relegion and using it as your self defense then why did yall get mad and took it to the streets when a saudi business man wanted to build an islamic cultural center next to greound zero? yall took it to the streets and clashed with cops too, and politicians took it as in insult even tho it was protected by the first amendment. But muslims decided not to offend you and canceled the whole project. 9/11 is a sensitive issue for americans just as religion to muslims just as halocaust for jews. just everyone mind your own business because good people are the ones who end up paying the price. God bless everyone
there is no law against hurting your feelings. there is also no law that states you cant mock someone elses religion. or portrayal historial beings in a bad light. when there is free speech will be dead.
yes alot of people protested the "cultural center" notice how noone died. buildings werent burned. .,...
BTW look at how many mosques and islmaic cultural centers have been attacked here in american soil smart boy. wheres the protection captain america? stop acting like you know your rights ok little man. grow up kido
yeah some mosques were burned. so were some synagogues and churches and other buildings. have you ever seen a video of one of us dancing in front of a burning mosque with an ak?
your funny buddy. americans are not militia men to hold aks ok. Dont forget the second amendment doesnt exist in most of the states so u wont find someone holding a butter knife either. Boy you have nothing to say thats y ur trying to come up with an argument. Go get a life and join the military maybe your way of thinking will change when ur in afghanistan standing next to the taliban in cop uniform. chicken S*it
I didn't make a film about him, neither did the four people killed in Lybia last week. And there have been a plethora of anti-Christian films by Athests such as The Life of Brian and The Truth About Lying and no one was killed over them.
your right but let someone make a film about 9/11 and mock it then we will see what will happen. Or someone make a false film about the holocaust and we will c the results. Dude the question is WHY? what will you gain from it other than the headache and drama. Newtons 3rd law: for every action there is an opposite or equivelant reaction. S*it backfires bro. Just live life happy without disrespecting anyone. Your either a man or a coward.
No one mocks 9/11 or denies the holocost in this country? You aren't paying attention.
http://www.corbettreport com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/
But no one attacked the mosque in question or the imam who was going to promote it. The street protests and clashes with police were far milder and were perfectly acceptable forms of protest. No one damaged the saudi arabian or pakistani embassy or killed their ambassador. And no one has objected to arabs protesting without seriously injuring or killing someone.
"have to get killed"
In the small pubs in Germany a litle soldier stood and ranted his philopshy at the top of his voice. People listen and the results of that voice changed the events of the world. In a darken room a man rallied support for a simple plan to destroy buildings and kill Americans. Where is the voice for humanity's well being? Who is lietning?
Fareed your back! Find anyone new to plagiarize in your "time off"?
Obama and his media bodyguards must think we're idiots.
Your right. The talking heads in the main stream media are so biased it makes me sick to think how the naive herds believe their left wing spew.
The President of Egypt clearly stated that this was planned. This is about anti-America and the 6 month old movie is just an excuse. Killing our ambassador, our marines,and burning our flag is a sign of anti-America. Our POTUS wants to appease the mob. This isn't some right wing conspiracy or left wing nut job work of Michael Moore. This is fact. Wake up people they hate usand Israel. And there is nothing you can do to appease them. They want us both dead. Stop giving them any form of aide.
I mean President of Lybia.
Libya has a population of 6.4 Million people. The article states that the population supports the US by a 2-1 margin.
So, roughly 2.1 million people in that nation Dislikes the US? Maybe we need to take a long look at that number.
..and stoping feeding our enemies.
Great article. Too often we see articles that focus on what will grab your attention. Violence and extremist always make better headlines. While the protest might be over a large region it is a realitivly small group. The video might offend a lot of people but the masses do not seem to want to go to war over it. I wonder why we do not see pictures and interviews of people down the block hiding in their home wishing the protest would end. American military and politics going into every Country with unrest will only cause people who have no desire to fight to change their mind. Treating the protesters any different than we would treat them here is dangerous. We do not shoot a few hundred to a few thousand protesters, mostly unarmed or throwing rocks. Even when we have riots here that result in violence and death we do not kill or arrest the whole group.
The first one to breach the wall of one of our Embassy's or consulates should be met with overwhelming deadly force. Don't go looking for trouble, but protect your ground. If they had done that – the ambassador might still be alive today.
I like Fareed, and while he usually gives very good insight, I would say that he too is naive on this one. Whether it is a few hundred extremists or not, the Muslim world has it's politics wrapped around their religion. This just doesn't work for the long haul. Because of that, the muslim world is doomed to fail and if we aren't careful, they will drag down the entire world. Islam like most religions is a way to control the masses and this particular religion has created nothing but monsters against humanity.
Muslims must not fall into this trap to pain Islam as a violent religion. Muslims should be angry with their leaders instead of the West. Look how poor and corrupt Muslim countries are. The Prophet will be angry if he saw what is happening in the Islamic World.
P.S. Here in EU if you question the Holocaust, you will be prosecuted, fined, and most likely jailed, but if you insult Muslims and vandalized their properties, it is considered “Freedom of Speech”…what a hypocrisy!
That is the EU, not the US – we have plenty of people here "questioning the holocaust'. Do you want blasphemy to be against the law. It is a two way street. If you get angry and say "Jesus Christ", that is considered blasphemy. Do you want a fine for insulting Christianity? And lets face it, the Islamic definition of blasphemy is quite broad. In a Muslim country, Muslims ask Christians – "do you consider Mohammed superior to Jesus Christ"? That is putting a Christian in a position – blaspheme his God or your god. And we all know the punishment for blasphemy in a Muslim country. How would you like it if they did that to Muslims in the US? And the wrong answer was death! Then you would whine that you are being "oppressed". Frankly you are a bunch of neurotic sycophants.
Please and Please don't insult people that you don't know, personally. Do to others what you want to be done to you. That being said, Muslims treat all the Prophets of God same. Be Moses, Jesus, or Muhammad ( Peace be Upon Them). Blasphemy law was first introduced by the British Colonials in South East Asia, but now its used against minority groups, and I am sorry for that, because Islam teaches us to protect the weak, poor, and minority amongst us.
These protesester have no idea what the word "tolerance" means. I am so thankful for our freedom of speech. I have no idea what this film is about but allow that person to produce it. That is what democracy is about. If these folk think that destruction and killing in the name of their God is the thing to do, they bring shame on their religion.
You know, I get and understand that in many of these countries they have historically had no understanding of the concept of free speech, that a film like this would had to have received full government approval and editing prior to release but what they are doing now, with the protests is free speech and also about what happened in Australia? They have free speech and anyone that has immigrated there would have an understanding of this yet they chose to storm the US Embassy as well. I know there were some demonstrations and violence after the Denmark cartoons but nothing on this level. What this is showing is a deep seeded hatred for the US and I assume Americans. Sad really that they think it's okay for them to protest and burn our flag and kill our Ambassador and burn our Consulates but it's not okay for someone in the US to make a film critical of their God. I'd say that someone needs to hit some of these guys over the head with the hypocrisy hammer and would someone PLEASE kick Fareed in the butt, he comes of so smug and arrogant and like he has all the answers that if I watch his show or read his comments I need a bottle of pepto at the ready.
I wonder what would provoke those of us lucky to live in the USA to protest anything with that much passion. Probably the network cancellation of a foot ball game, we are so apathetic.
Zakaria.You are so right.If the leaders of the country come out and let the protesters know the truth there will be no protesting by the people but by the small grope that trying to built up problem for the country.why did they waited for 9/11 to use the film as an excuse.
We are in a sad state when our main stream media can concoct a story about a cheap home made movie being the genesis of a holy war around the world and expect us to believe it. And it was just a random act by some unknown murderers that happened to be on 9-11. We aren't buying it. These lies are example of why you that you can't trust the main stream media. They are peddling propaganda given to them by the bundlers in the White House.
"And let's be honest, there is a cancer of extremism in the Arab world, one that was diagnosed extensively after 9/11 by many, including me"
And yet Fareed, you still blame the Arab world, which is inaccurate at best, deceptive at worst. Your "Arab" take on the problem ignores the extremism that exists in the non-Arab world; Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, parts of India, Bangladesh, Indonesia...
You're a smart individual, Fareed. Surely you've divined the common thread between all of these countries wracked by extremism, even if you are hesitant to admit it. The common thread is Islam.
Well if this is true, you can't target and punish your enemies if your friends are mixed in with them. Your friends have to do it to help you out. Let's see what they do.
Why is America hated everywhere in the world? It is because America likes to interfere with other people's life and calls it "helping you get freedom and democracy" Whether itis good or bad, selfish or naive... the result is always "causing more misery to the people and the world." So, Ameica is hated.
After years of being (MIS) Guided by the DECEITFUL, ISLAMI SYMPATHIZER Mr. FAREED ZAKARIA, Obama seems to be realizing that the Muslim Brotherhood can't be trusted.
I have written extensively exposing my former countryman Mr. Zakaria who is clearly a GRAVE DANGER to America, India and the entire free world. Just do a google search on "Amit-Atlanta-USA"
Hope Obama realises that fact atleast now and keeps Mr. Zakaria out of his govt., given that there are strong rumours of Mr. Zakaria being named the NEXT US SEC. OF STATE..........if Obama wins re-election!
Otherwise just imagine the HEIRARCHY!
1) PRESIDENT – The Naive Mr. Barack HUSSAIN Obama
(GREATLY influenced by his father, still believes tries to equate Islam with all its HATEFUL IDEAOLOGY to be as peaceful as ALL THE OTHER great religions of the world.
2) SEC. OF STATE: Islamic Sympathizer Mr. Fareed Zakaria.
3) US AMABASSADOR TO THE OIC (Organization of Islamic Conference): MB terrorist supporter RASHAD HUSSAIN (another fellow Indian Muslim like Mr. Zakaria!)
4) US GOODWILL AMBASSADOR TO THE MUSLIM WORLD: IMAM RAUF (Imam of the 9/11 CARDOBA VICTORY MOSQUE- Decietfully renamed – Interfaith Center to tide over New Yorker's opposition!).
5) DY. CHIEF OF STAFF at the US STATE DEPT – HUMA ABEIDIN – Daughter of MB activist Saleha Mahmood Abedin
Any one has still any doubts about which way US policy to the Muslim world is headed???????????????????
GOD SAVE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I I bet you..... If i was in that picture and over there right now, I go up to that screaming gentleman. "Excuse me sir. Hi, how are you doing?" "Im good, how would you like to move to America and become a citizen automatically, no strings attached?"
I dont think he would be holding that flag screaming anymore. Well at least not obscenities.
This is the real story and the only story.
We now need to focus on India. The American invasion of Afghanistan brought to the forefront the irrelevance of India as a nation. With a population of over 1.2 billion people there was no value that this nation could bring to the table. Their soldiers (ragtag) 1.2 million continue hiding in the trenches scared from Talibans. A few teenage Talibans invaded the country and held it hostage for days on end showing how useless India is. It was embarrasing for the world to observe this humiliation of a nation that was being touted as a regional power.
I continue to read with interest the thesis presented on CNN that "less is more" in a political context as applied to India. Although Mies Van Der Rohe adopted this in an architectural context, its economic and political connotations are indeed powerful. Empowering subjugated minorities in India by splitting it into smaller states would trigger uber economic demand for western nations who have given so much financial and technology aid to India with no return to show for the investment. I concur with this approach and find the premise to be on solid footing. Central Asian States (CAS) are a case in point on this successful approach. We need to understand that India has an unmanageable large population mired in poverty and we are spinning our wheels trying to feed it. It is also too big of a geographical unit to govern. Again, we saw how a few teenage talibans were able to invade it with a few BB guns. And that says a lot... in a negative way not only for a large unmanageable country like India but also for USA which is trying to prop it up against China. Besides, Americans cannot afford to look like losers in the midst of a terror war which has lasted for over ten years now.
Zakaria said: ".....what we are witnessing is indeed the consequence of the Arab Spring. Arab societies were locked down for 50 years. The lid has come off them and we're seeing what's inside".
Pandora's Box, no doubt? Will there come a day when the West wishes that the tyrant's that were in power (Mubarek, Ghaddafi, Assad?, etc) would make a comeback? YES!....they were indeed keeping the lid on! That was always my gut feeling (my spider-sense told me that worse was to come if tyrants got toppled), and I worried what might happen when the lid was removed for "democracy". Now what?
Why is CNN continuing to publish stories written by an admitted plagiarist? Does CNN think its readership will somehow magically forget Mr. Zakaria's giant transgressions and welcome him back? Would CNN treat a white man who committed the same transgressions equally generously? (I doubt it.) Besides the elephant in the room called plagiarism, which by itself should have been enough to send Mr. Zakaria packing, I am also weary of Mr. Zakaria's third-world hackneyed "moderate Muslim" and Western apologist perspectives (even though he himself is not a Westerner - so in whose behalf is he apologizing?). By now we all know that a moderate Muslim is a rare creature indeed, and that the Stone Age is in firm command of the huge swathes of our planet over which the green banner of Islam flies. This unpleasant and harsh reality is one the media - and our President - seem to lack the guts to acknowledge.
Funny, everyone, even this writer, paints broad strokes about America all the time like we are this singular race and people. Yet they makes excuses for a culture (Islam) that is way more singular than America and we are supposed to be understanding? If we can be fed-up with the bible belt, it's not hate speech to be sick of this religion too. Thanks God.
Islam is not singular! There is more infighting between sects than is being reported. It is not widely reported that Saudi Arabia (rulers primarily Sunni and Wahabbi) are funding Al Qaeda (primarily Shiite). Saddam Hussain was Sunni as were most of his cabinet. He was famous for trampling on Shiites. MOST of the problems in Arab countries stems from these sects.
Shia Muslims believe that the Imam is sinless by nature, and that his authority is infallible as it comes directly from God. Therefore, Shia Muslims often venerate the Imams as saints and perform pilgrimages to their tombs and shrines in the hopes of divine intercession.
Sunni Muslims counter that there is no basis in Islam for a hereditary privileged class of spiritual leaders, and certainly no basis for the veneration or intercession of saints. Sunni Muslims contend that leadership of the community is not a birthright, but a trust that is earned and which may be given or taken away by the people themselves.
In 1801 and 1802, the Saudi Wahhabis under Abdul Aziz ibn Muhammad ibn Saud attacked and captured the holy Shia cities of Karbala and Najaf in Iraq, massacred parts of the Muslim population and destroyed the tombs of Husayn ibn Ali who is the grandson of Muhammad, and son of Ali (Ali bin Abu Talib), the son-in-law of Muhammad. (see: Saudi sponsorship mentioned previously) In 1803 and 1804 the Saudis captured Makkah and Medina and destroyed historical monuments and various holy Muslim sites and shrines, such as the shrine built over the tomb of Fatimah, the daughter of Muhammad, and even intended to destroy the grave of Muhammad himself as idolatrous. In 1998 the Saudis bulldozed and poured gasoline over the grave of Aminah bint Wahb, the mother of Muhammad, causing resentment throughout the Muslim World.
With such journalism, I have my doubts on Zakaria's solidarity towards America. Like O-ama, he has lot of baggage that needs investigation. It never is fault of Muslim people. I would give that there are 5-10% moderate and intellectual Muslims but even they wouldn't come forward for the fear of reprisal.
Why can't the press call a spade a spade anymore???
Anyone that has been in the middle east knows you can rent a mob of 500 protesters for a month for about 10k!!!! A few days of protests would cost even much less say about 2k!!!!!!
These protests were carried out by an organization with an agenda very close to the American election for President so it's abundantly clear this was intended to inflame the American electorate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Which makes it easy to deduce these protests were clearly funded by a right wing organization intended to swing popular opinion before America's elections!!!!!!!!!!!!
This whole thing smells like the Iranian hostage crisis all over again where the Republican's candidate Ronald Reagan was having a dialogue with the Iranians regarding foreign policy matters before Reagan was elected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In addition it would benefit the Israeli's if there is increased Middle East tension right before the election so as to force Pres Obama to take a aggressive posture on Middle East matters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THESE PROTESTS WERE ORGANIZED TO AFFECT AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!
It's a trap America, they want us to believe there is a war so America will keep funding the ridiculous WAR ON TERROR!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHICH MEANS TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DOD & STATE DEPARTMENT PROJECTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!!!!!!
The American public is being duped into fighting a war that only serves to fund expansion of the Middle East operations!!!!!!!!!!!
WAKE UP ZOMBIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WERE BEING PLAYED
A deeper problem than elected politicians in the Middle East acting like elected politicians is the fundamental disconnect these incidents have revealed. Simply put: the Islamic societies in question have firmly stated, in words and deeds, that freedom of speech is less important than religious dogma. They want limits placed on what people can say. And this is what is important about the current spate of incidents. Will our government stand up and declare that the film-maker in question and the film he has produced have broken no laws? Will they state, without mincing words, that we will not punish a man to appease a mob? Will they, in short, stand up for the freedoms they swore to protect when we elected them?
it's not about the movie, it's about causing a shift in American policy!!!!!!!!!!! This has nothing to do with free speech because the entire thing was a setup!!!!!!! It has to do with making the American President Obama appear weak so he's forced to increase activity on the WAR ON TERROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The WAR ON TERROR just like the WAR ON DRUGS created a huge business market in the middle east, so anytime there is an attack or protest the Americans will react with new programs!!!!!!!!!!!! THESE PROGRAMS MEAN BIG MONEY SPENT IN THE REGION BY AMERICA INTO THE POCKETS OF THE MIDDLE EAST!!!!!!!!!!!!
So everyone knows since the war on Terror America has been spending 1 trillion a year on projects that flow into the middle east!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's a MONEY TRAIN that is all, these protests will cause whom ever becomes President to increase funding to the Middle East!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE PROTEST IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THESE COUNTRIES ARE RUTHLESS AND WOULD DESTROY ANY PERSONS FAMILY IF THEY PROTESTED WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE TRIBAL LEADERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS ENTIRE INCIDENT WAS ORGANIZED AND PAID FOR BY THE LOCAL LEADERS TO PROVOKE AMERICA
WHY ON EARTH DO YOU THINK THE AFGHANS ARE SHOOTING AMERICANS WHEN THEY KNOW WE ARE LEAVING NEXT YEAR????????????? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DEMONSTRATE SECURITY IS BAD SO AMERICA WILL STAY IN AFGHANISTAN LONGER
The only thing accomplished by the Iraq & Afghan wars
1. 95% of money spent on infrastructure was stolen by Afghan & Iraqi leadership
2. America created thousands of millionaires in Iraq & Afghanistan
3. Nothing
4. American soldiers died or were wounded
Most of the Middle Eastern countries are dependent on foreign aid to such an extent their major economies are run off of foreign aid projects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So systematic destabilization of key economic sectors are manipulated to increase funding of these programs!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wake up people this was an organized protest intended to affect both the Presidential elections but also the American posture in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!!!
We are getting played, let them protest reduce the American foot print in the Middle East
Anti israel and american thoughts are in the minds of all of the arabs in that region. Not just the extremists speaking outwardly about it.
We either need to put enough security in our embassies, or get out of the countries were we are too chicken to protect our on people.!!
No, the protests don't tell the whole story. But what they do show is just the very surface of why there are so many that do not like the U.S. For those who may be shocked at all over this - you need to read your history. And you don't have to even go that far back in history to know that some we have called friends, we have suddenly called enemies without true and good reason. We have sold weapons to so-called allies to kill others with. And many, many, many other reasons. The biggest of which: we police the world. Let them fight their own wars and send no more aid. We will suddenly have more "friends" than we know what to do with.
There are too many coincidental unanswered questions in this story. Is this whole episode contrived? If so, for what purpose? Who would benefit?
It's a main point of political expediency that domestic support for a leader, whether he be wise or wicked, is generated when an external or foreign threat is perceived. Add this to the fact that the incidents began on a day of remembrance significant to Americans only (9/11) and you've got some serious questions being asked but not answered.
Add to this that the White House LIED about not knowing ahead of time that these things would happen. Staff and families were evacuated days before. NO story about the tragedy includes possible injury, kidnapping or insult to any member of embassy staff or family. There isn't a story because they weren't there; evacuated prior to the events.
There is a truth here and lots of hidden lies.
but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
Mr. Zakaria says: “The country is pro-American by a 2-to-1 margin, and the violence there appears to have been the work of small, extremist elements that lack much popular support.”
Mr. ZAKARIA has a HABIT of conjuring up stories and coming up with DUBIOUS STATISTICS in support of Islamic radicals & even terrorists!
Here is an excellent example where he says AMERICANS ARE MORE TOLERANT OF VIOLENCE THAN MUSLIMS quoting dubious statistics from a well known AMERICA HATER Prof. FAWAZ GERGES.
Sorry folks.............Rest of my analysis is being censored!!!
Fareed Zakaria “Learning to live with radical Islam” – Feb 28th, 2009
Firstly why should Americans live with radical Islam?????
And, then this is what he said:
“The shift has been especially dramatic in Jordan, where only 12 percent of Jordanians view suicide attacks as "often or sometimes justified" (down from 57 percent in 2005). In Indonesia, 85 percent of respondents agree that terrorist attacks are "rarely/never justified" (in 2002, by contrast, only 70 percent opposed such attacks). In Pakistan, that figure is 90 percent, up from 43 percent in 2002. Gerges points out that, by comparison, ONLY 46 percent of AMERICANS say that "bombing and other attacks intentionally aimed at civilians" are "NEVER JUSTIFIED," while 24 percent believe these attacks are "often or sometimes justified."
In the above story Mr. Zakaria’s pays glowing tributes to the father of the Nigerian underwear bomber, and the parents of the Pakistanis of the VA five (who went to Pakistan to join the Jihad against America) for TIPPING OFF the FBI about their children’s activities. While that is a fact, what he DELIBERATELY does not say was that these boys had already made MARTYRDOM VIDEOS and the one & only alternative left for the parents to see their son’s alive was to inform the FBI!
The list goes on & on & on………..
So whats your point? The parents didn't want their children to die. so what are you equating that to? that the parents are just as bad and also want to attack the US? You're full of bull pudding.
It is a known fact that 46% of all quoted statistics are made up on the spot.
Hmmm, lack much popular support? 33% of the population support the radicals since the rest support the west. Suppose you put numbers to that. Suppose 100 MILLION Americans support something. Would that not have some very strong popular support?
There are lots of polls where similar number of americans support whatever issue or topic but it is still counted as small support. I'd say that 30 something percent is the number I've been seeing alot in terms of Americans that support extremist thinking. Ask how many Americans would support nuking a city in the mid east and I'd bet it wouldnt be any less thatn 25-35 % if not more.
A copt lying? What a surprise. I had a friend who told was told by a coworker that Egypt is mostly christian and that muslims are a minority. It didnt sound right so we googled it and what do you know...a lie. It was around the same time I was hearing about their conspiracy theories of muslims kidnapping their daughters and brainwashing them into converting to their islam. uh huh, it has nothing to do with your daugther converting and running away because she knew you wouldn't accept it (which is understandable) but being deceiptful is loooooww. I'd never trust a copt.
To hear directly from the people of Libya and elsewhere about the protests, to see what happens when we actually get to communicate with each other directly instead of hearing what the News Agencies tell us (sensationalism and ratings), please check this out, it is eye-opening and important to see:
http://www.facebook.com/TheSorryProject
Crazy ragtops, don't they understand that democracy comes with freedom of religion & speech?
Where did you get this from? Democracy and the various freedoms have NOTHING in common. Since I don't know of ANY country that is really Democratic, it is impossible to say how freedoms would play out under that scenario. Consider this, under a true Democracy, if 50% + 1 vote for restricting religeon, that would be tha law.
As it nearly always is, the media elite point to a tiny minority as the root cause for the continuous, never-ending violence perpetrated by Muslim extremists. It is also fair to say that card-carrying communists and nazis were likewise few in number. Point is, the number is mostly irrevalent. It's the mostly silent supportive majority that is a big component of the problem.
This would be a good time to start pulling out of all the countries in which we have our noses and U.S. taxpayer money. Cut off the funds we give them, reinforce our defenses here at home, get busy drilling for oil and natural gas, produce more coal, and strive for more renewable energy (with no taxpayer subsidies)! To a man, all countries of the world hate us!! So I say, let them go on their own and let's take care of our own people. We are now being held hostage by the Islamists!!
Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto.
Thomas Jefferson
Exactly pull out completely have an economic revolution here in America, there is no such thing as allies when your number 1!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONLY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET SOMETHING FROM YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This entire Imperialistic policy that Bush started or should I say started since the Korean War is slow suicide!!!!!!!!!!! It's ignorant to think America is spreading FREEDOM & LIBERTY, all were doing is squandering America's wealth!!!!!!!!!!!!
LKJLJ
I think the fact that their own leaders will not speak out against the violence shows that it is more than just a mere few who believe in the demonstations that have gone out of control in those nations. The basic differences here is the western logical approach that our governments cannot control what one person in 300 million posts on youtube, and in fact, it is ridiculous way to react to one persons opinion, and their logic which states the entire country is to blame for the post of one person, and that person should be punished. The Muslim viewpoint is simply wrong, and world leaders should state this fact, otherwise the violence will spiral out of control every time one person posts a video. There is no defense of their actions, and it cannot be explained simply as "cultural differences". An overreaction is an overreaction and must be stated as such.
The best way to beat the Middle East is not to play their game in the first place!!!!!!!!!! America needs to quit being drawn into conflicts while we pretend to be the international human rights & police agency!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND AMERICA IS GIVING IT AWAY INSTEAD OF INVESTING IN AMERICA
wow – the comments on cnn.com are really not worth reading.
To beat the Middle East we need to take a step back and let them fight over themselves as opposed to our meddling in the middle so they can constantly hold their hands out for more foreign aid.
America can defend it's interests without this whole drama, we've been tricked into a posture that strengthens our enemies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who would ever have thought it would be a governments policy to fight a war by funding your very own enemies in hopes they will respect you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one respects what you give them, they only respect what they earn on their own
Haters don't win!
I expect nothing less from the Arabs of the region. The blood crazed rantings of the woefully uneducated populace just re-enforces the notion that these people, are simply little monkey children running around, Instead of flinging s**t, they fling shoes. No hope exists for the Arabs. The Arabs are born of the seed and mark of Cain. Violence and bloodshed has always followed.
Hmmmmmm...where have I read this before?
I don't buy for a minute people are mad about a movie. This is far too calculated. And I'm really no longer sympathetic.
How hard is it to start a protest? How calculated does it need to be? People saw the movie and started protesting, some others heard about it and joined in. Making up fake realities may feel good but in the end doesn't matter.
Blondie
I don't buy for a minute people are mad about a movie. This is far too calculated. And I'm really no longer sympathetic.
Interesting that this movie was posted on youtube in June....in English.
It is ignored.
Suddenly it is making the rounds in middle east countries in.....Arabic.
I doubt that this was some kind of coincidence.
Jihad ?
Islamic terrorists ?
Al Queda ?
Desperate Republicans losing an election ?
Makes you wonder.
Yet another of Mr. Zakaria's ATOUNDING assertion (which should have in reality relegated him to be a reporter for radical Islamic publications than respectable (somwehat!) mainstream (exessively politically correct, left leaning) CNN.
Here's are his INFAMOUS WORDS........
"THE DANGER COMES FROM US and NOT THEM (meaning Al-qaeda and other Muslim terrorists)"
......Ref: Reflections on 9/11 and its Aftermath” CNN-GPS Sept 9th, 2011.
I just want to ask some questions: (01) Why was the film spread only now, before 9/11? With no intention of inciting Muslim fury and violence against Americans? (02) Why two months before the general elections? Not to create an international chaos attributable to president Obama and thus to jeopardize his reelection chances? (03) Are Obama's enemies not behind the plot of the film insulting Muslims? (04) What better response do some want from president Obama, to exterminate the Middle East people?
I don't know the answers, I just ask questions.
What do you want us to do Farheed? In the modern age, I can make a film that would upset muslims in about an hour and have it available to the world on youtube. They need to start acting like human beings and not animals and not expect anything or any respect from me or us until they do.
The ONLY solution to this is to get the hell out of all these countries, remove our military, embassies, MONEY, from them and let the dictators regain control. These people have NEVER been able to coexist with the rest of the world and the only time they were ever stable was under dictators. "Democracy" is foreign to them and will never work as long as you have a bunch of fanatics running around with US supplied weapons shooting the place up.
Don't remove the embasies, expand them and their marine guard, then do like the Russian and Israli do and turn them into fortresses. Attack the embasy and we blow the S*(& out of you. The rest, i totally agree. Also cut ALL immigration. We don't need more cab drivers or 7-11 clerks and why let them come to our schools to learn how to harm us.
Even when an American is not the guilty party all of America gets the paint on our boots. The rose colored glasses a few fanatical Islam leaders use to paint the road to the hereafter does not include stops for truth, facts, compassion, or brotherhood. It does include violence, subjugation and oppression of the weak and women though.
Just as the military found out, you can create a killer guard dog by sitting them in centrifuge tubes for a few minutes on speed dry settings, However, you can't un-spin that dog later, meaning what you teach your children from birth can only be tampered by an education, it can redesign the DNA. You give a six year old an AK-4& scream God is Good, and death to America is followed by a few blast in the sky, that little bugger is being programmed for his teen years.
God Bless America, no matter our color, religion or DNA make-up, you want to appreciate this country more visit others to see why we are the best there is, and the greatest that will ever be, and it is all because of our multicolored, dogmatically diverse makeup. You want to stay the greatest Vote in November.
You want to stay the greatest Vote in November.
Vote Democrat.
Someone needs to point out the hypocrisy here. Anti Semetic & Anti-Chritian films, cartoons and other media have been coming out of the Middle East forever. Now one dim bulb makes a crappy film & the Muslim world goes ballistic? Unfair and very telling that they expect a double standard.
If you 'think' these 'protests' are over a little film, then the government has you where they want you, LOL These people are anti-anything that stands for freedom, especially the united states, who thinks they can 'save the world', LOL
These people are anti-anything that stands for freedom...
If they dont want democracy, fine.
But why would they hate us for our freedoms ?
That makes no sense.
Thats like Republicans saying Obama hates America.
He doesnt hate America, you just hate him.
There's a difference between an anti muslim film/article and a film/article that attacks their prophet. The mideast doesn't attack Jesus or Moses. There are lots of films/articles that are anti muslim and they dont protest, its because its an attack on their prophet.
Heck, this coming from a 'rag-head' – the ONLY reason these 'governments' are saying they aren't 'anti-american' is because they don't want to lose all that 'Free Cash' the idiot americans keep giving them, LOL
Zakaria's assertions are absolutely correct. We can't walk away, pull the plug, and wash our hands....which would allow the extremists to take complete control and endanger the whole world. At the same time, it is totally frustrating dealing with these people who want to kill anyone even remotely (or not) associated with a film, book, etc. because they don't like it. I suppose we are going to have to exercise good judgment even though it is tempting to turn our backs.
Eff em – when will the united states, et al learn that the only thing these people want is our money – they don't want 'democracy' cuz it's in conflict with sharia law, LOL
Steve
Eff em – when will the united states, et al learn that the only thing these people want is our money – they don't want 'democracy' cuz it's in conflict with sharia law, LOL
Sigh.
One day idiots like you will wake up and realise that we only have one planet.
If you dont want them to pull you down,
you have to pull them up.
You cant walk away from the problem, or wall it off.
You have to fix it.
We all breath the same air.
We all walk on the same planet.
Fix this one.
You are not likely to get another one.
Cut the Foreign aid and block all immigration to or from that country and watch how damn fast they decide we aren't the great Satan. As to our reponsibility- we have none. Middle east countries that sell us Oil are a business decision, all the rest has to be view as to what is the best interest of the US, not that country.
In the days before Daffy the US had an large military base in Bengazhi- the area did well and most of the people supported us. The libyian people aren't the problem. Islam and its' culture of hate and violence is the problem. Solve the problem by withdrawing ALL american aid form those countries constantly attacking us, starting with pakistan, Algeria, Yemen etc and watch how quickly the rulers knock down the rabble rousers. If they don't think of all the money we can put back into America. And block any immigration form those countries for ANY reason.
the united states WON'T withdraw any 'Aid' from Nuclear Pakistan – they need to stay in good with the people with their fingers on the buttons, LOL
September 16:
A prominent political analyst says that several groups including American Mormons in the CIA and Zionists are behind the controversial recent anti-Islam film made in the US, Press TV reports.
“I would identify two or perhaps three components, the first is a Mormon mafia inside the CIA, the group of Mormon high officials of the CIA who want Romney to become president and they think that by having the kinds of events that we are seeing, they can make Obama look bad in front of the American public,” Dr. Webster Griffin Tarpley told Press TV during an interview on Saturday.
According to Tarpley, the group follows Brent Scowcroft, who used to be “the right hand man of Henry Kissinger”.
The analyst said that the second component consists of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Likud party and "a group of neocons who have attached themselves to the Romney campaign”.
“I would add probably the Saudis, probably the Saudi religious and monarchy, hierarchy,” he added.
He further pointed to ties between “Sam Bacil or Nakula Basseley Nakula”, the man claiming responsibility for the blasphemous movie and Media for Christ's Joseph Nasrallah, a Coptic Christian from Egypt.
Dr. Tarpley also mentioned a series of figures including anti-Islam movie promoter Steve Klein, "Terry Jones, the infamous Qur'an burner", Pamela Geller, and Daniel Pipes, accusing them of promoting Islamophobia and unrest in the world by supporting such films.
"Pamela Geller, I think may be the key to this entire thing; she is a professional Islamophobe very close to the Israelis and probably somewhere in the background we might have somebody like Daniel Pipes, a professor who basically has made a career out of harassing four Palestinian professors at American universities."
--Courtesy: Press Tv
If Bush had still been in office, this op-ed would have been all about how Bush caused all of this anti-American sentiment, how it pervades the Arab world, everything is Bush's fault, and so on .
Our problem in this country is the Liberal media. They always stretch the truth and sometimes report outright lies. . They don't represent the majority of the people.The biggest problem of all is they are agitators. Instead of reporting the news they report their opinions and belierfs. Good example is MSNBC. Very rarely do they have an opposing view on their show. People get duped so easy, it's unbelievable. .
MSNBC will have up to 4 analysts ridiculing the right but no opposing view on the program.
Get rid of the Liberal Press or at least have them report the truth rather than propoganda and we would have harmony in our country. If we had the current real time comminications back during Word War 2 and the todays Liberal press, we would have never won that war. Think about it.
The citizens of the Western world fail to understand the Muslim position. For Muslims, religion is the most important aspect of life. If someone insults their religion, it is worse than an act of terror. While in the West, the religion is not considered as important, that’s why we see the prophets (including Jesus Christ) being insulted in the public media with no retribution. While the West holds accountable countries where terrorists come from, it protects bigots who commit act of religious crusades in media under a thin veil of freedom of speech. However, the West’s position on the freedom of speech falls flat on its face when it throws people in jail for merely denying the existence holocaust. This confusion creates the impression that the West, in some way, is behind these acts. It must choose whether to allow and protect bigots to tear down other religons or to impose rational controls to protect against the harm to the billions who have always respected other beliefs.
No, Monitor, the West clearly understands the Mulslim position. The West understands the Muslim position far better than Muslims understand the Western position. The difference is that the West simply does not agree with the Muslim positon. This is something that extreme Muslims completely fail to understand, and to which they then choose to respond with violence rather than civility.
Ken,
Sounds like overexposure to Fox News. Get real and read about the Muslims from reliable sources. You might learn something.
Oh knock it off, Monitor. As a typical lib you arrogantly portray yourself as intellgent when in fact you are not, and then use ad hominem attacks in an attempt to demean those who disagree. Maybe you should get your news from some source other than CNN or PMSNBC. You could learn something.
THIN VEIL of Freedom of Speech. MERELY DENYING THE HOLOCAUST gets you thrown in jail. PA-LEESE. I don't even think a response is required here. This ignorance of this post speaks for itself.
when it throws people in jail for merely denying the existence holocaust..
Not in the United States, moron.
Germany, Israel, France, Poland.
"All we are saying, is give peace a chance!" – John Lennon – need him now more than ever
No, I am saying, "Put someone in charge of this country who actually has a clue!"
OBAMANOS!!!
We have one now, you are just too stupid to see it.
so whats the point?..just let 'em kill ,burn and behead because of their intolerance?
Zakaria is from the Middle East, and his sympathies lie there. Read any of his blogs and they are simply promoting that region and making excuses for actions that have no excuse. Most of his reports are slanted, have a hint of anit american beliefs and promote the cultures that are against all we believe. Yet he, like most of his kind continue to enjoy american and european products and life styles. Does he think this would exist if the leaders of the middle east ran things? take his writings with a large grain of salt.
Go ahead stick your head in the sand and ignore the facts. If we point out these deficiencies this doesn’t mean our loyalties lie with other nations. We are American citizens now. We bring a new prospective to the decade old thinking of the old fogies who are steering our nation off the cliff. Wake up!
I see you are not as smart as this liar fareed is! fareed is NOT from the middle east! this liar and plagerist is from INDIA! he knows NOTHING ABOUT what is going on in libya or even timbuktu! all he is doing is printing one lie and plagerized story after another!
You are from Uranus.
Your sypathies must lie there.
History is full of barbaric acts in the name of religion. It took hundreds of years for countries like Britain to be the countries they are today. It is unreasonable to expect some countries to in a matter of a few years to get like that and certainly trying to impose this change through occupation, no matter how noble the thinking behind the move, is a recipe for disaster. Concentrate on humanitarian measures. People will not stand for oppression and will find a way to get rid of their oppressors as happened throughout history. The new social media is just going to hasten this process. Keep U.S. troops home to protect the homeland.
I have respect for all religions but I am beginning to see this trend in Muslim religious. it is violence. Everything they disagree with they violently kill is in the name of religion. What kind of god will ask you to kill?
I can’t judge all Muslim for “few” but I don’t see the rest defending their religion. And not just saying it once and move on, but preaching and fighting to give their people and their value something better than what’s happening now. What are they afraid of to say? This is getting weird. I don’t understand.
John of Damascus criticized the Saracens as followers of a false prophet and "forerunner[s] to the Antichrist."[10] Two centuries later, Europeans perceived Saracens as poor, uneducated idolaters belonging to a group wholly separate from the Arabs who brought Aristotle to the Latin West and the Moors and Berbers fighting Christians in Spain;
The film trailer that started it all is amateurish, crude, etc...but most of the events are historically correct!! why is this not discussed? Most Muslims don't know the true life story of their "Prophet", or chose to rationalize what he did!
maybe they should ask God for a job...they got way to much time on their hands... p.s. where are all the women?
Fareed should just keep quiet, he knows nothing about the desires of the leaders of the Islamic world.
Former AIPAC Board Member
Stupid liberal northern slum dwelling pukes will defend muslim perverts and condemn Christians. If Christians went on a killing spree every time they are offended there wouldn't be population surplus .
I am a liberal.
I havent defended any Musilims.
You must be an azzhole.
You state that there is widepsread support for the US in these countries. Really? I disagree with you entirely. On what basis do you make such a claim? What factual information do you possess? Or are you just mimicking the "monkey talk" of the administration. You are starting to sound like "Baghdad Bob". Remember him? Remember Bob claiming that the Americans were being burned down at the gates to Baghdad when in the background of the camera shot of him we saw the Abrams tanks rolling through Baghdad. If millions of Arabs really do support the US where are they? These people hate us, hate western civilization, hate freedom of speech, hate freedom of religion. They despise democracry. They have no history of freedom. You say "50 years" of repression. Wrong! Some have been under a tyrant's control for up to 3,000 years. They have no concept of free choice. Its the principle of the "strong horse". They threw down Hosni when he got to be weak are now riding the tyrannical horse of the Muslim Brotherhood. Who's next?
There are about 2000 protesters in a country of
5,624,360 people.
Thats five million idiot.
These are POVERTY protests...thats all they are...the Mohammed Fury is just a cover for a for a dismal economic condition...when Asia is experiencing unprecedented growth and development..and Americans main worry is the ovweight population..The Middle East remains a bastion for hopelessness and despair
One movie doesn't cause people to act like this. They are using the movie as an excuse to vent frustrations or craziness, whichever you want to consider it, in an unacceptable way. It may be the way they do things, but when the way they do things starts costing other people their lives, then they need to be shown that their way of doing things needs to be kept to themselves.
I am tired of Mr. Fareed defending and excusing. "Oh you don't really get the picture!" Tell that to the dead soldiers, to the dead ambassador, to the dead Christians!
Sorry..... I get it.
And WE DO need to PULL OUT of there NOW. AND PULL OUR MONEY. THEY HAVE RICH OIL COMPANIES AND MONIES. Let them help each other.
They don't want us there. We shouldn't be there!
Let them kill each OTHER, like they have ALWAYS DONE!
Fareed, sorry but this short article doesn't pass the smell test! Politicians the world around pander to the majority – the folks who have the real power to get them re-elected over time. They do NOT pander to .005% of the population, and certainly not when things like American funding are on the line. Morsi, Karzai and their ilk are pandering to the masses, just like any politician. The masses agree with their stances and that's why they are stating them in these ways. What this says about these countries and Islam in general is up to honest people to figure out. But know this – we won't be duped by the liberal media into thinking that Morsi is pandering to a few thousand of his 85 million voters. He's pandering to the majority – just like every other politician out there.
Wow, after reading a few replies...I can definitely see that the American Educational System is a complete failure!
Look, these countries are fragile democracies, trying to weed out extremism, ignorance and poverty, which has gripped our country too (Thanks tea bangers)! As the leader of the free world. We should change our political discourse and lead by example (Not ignorance)!
A simple example of extremism and ignorance in our country can be found really fast!
People who perform back ground checks for security clearances for a career missed Presidents Obama's so called forged birth certificate but, a stay at home parent surfing the web-could! REALLY!? The sad part is that a significant number of the GOP agree with those findings!
Seriously! The Administration and it's backing of the Arab spring is the MAJOR blunder of this Century. This is only the beginning. Apologize some more and see what happens. Bwahahahahahahahaha......Punish Obama!
So you're fine with America supporting dictators that persecute their people? But then you're also ok with lying to yourself and saying that America is about freedom and is a beacon of light to others? You're full of bull pudding. Hypocrites like you are a big part of the problem.
George Bush wanted there to be Democracy in the middle east.
That means they vote for who they want to represent them.
You blame the Arab Spring on Obama ?
WOW.
When the Egyptians held elections and voted in The Muslim Brotherhood,
what would you have Obama do ?
Send in troops to stop it ?
That would realy be supporting democracy.
People like you are complete brainwashed idiots.
We need to fix our education sytem in America, we are turning
out retards.
Fareek, looking at Libya and saying that the Muslim world LOVES us is like looking at San Francisco and calling the USA filled with interior decorators. What about the OTHER 15 countries rioting??? And did you miss the same riots ocurring after 9/11. You could make the same case..."there were only 100's rioting in a country of millions. The majority of muslims mourned WITH us." Get real, Fareek!
The behavior of these mobs in Muslim countries throughout the world - all in reaction to, and purportedly justified by, a video trailer posted on YouTube - merely shows us what we already know. Namely, that the concept of "moderate Islam" is a fantasy. While in past Islam might have been a largely "moderate" religion in many parts of the world, such is certainly not the case today. Wahabbism and Islamic extremists and hardliners have won the battle. As one commentator put it so aptly, Obama had better wake up and smell the Jihaddi coffee. The problem is not a video mocking Mohammed. The problem is a religion that has become so sick that it advocates intolerance and violence. The question now is whether Islam is capable of reforming itself, or at least of taking itself back from extremist elements. Recent events show the answer to is a resounding "no."
****bruce m young*** What this have to do with the Israeli occupation!? but if you insist, it may be ....I think I agree with Fareed, The Arab societies have been on lock down for over 50 years by Dictators supported by the U.S, like Mubarak in Egypt, still to date King of Jordan and others....and what we see are countries liberated from oppressors and want to express themselves..NOW I do not agree that this is all related to the infamous movie and it is not an Islamic uprising only because on the infamous movie, it has elements of thugs and small groups on the extreme side behind all this. Te bigger movements have only peacefully protested and organized and did speak against these destruction that is going on.....NOW back to the Israeli issue, I would say the same thing as you, why is Israel always calling and inflicting death to the Palestinians and Pro Zionists like you always wishing death and destruction to the Muslim world!!?
"The love you take is equal to the love you make" – Paul McCartney. The same is true for the Hate.
I agree and it works both ways, then stop asking the same question
What Fareed says it true, these are weak governments. I would point out that nowhere else is there such lawlessness and violence, other than in these Muslim nations. They are weak societies in general and there is little consensus on any issue. Bottom line, if these countries want diplomatic relations they have to protect foreign embassies. And they also have to battle the extremists among them who wish to sour relations with outsiders.
Some had speculated last year that as soon as this so-called Arab Spring would be followed by chants of a "Western Fall". The only reason those dictators stayed in power for so long was becuase of money flowing out of this country... to the pockets of these very same dictators. It should be a surprise to know thate now that the dictators are gone, the people have found a new place to blame their frustrations....
Islam should be banned completely from this Earth as it mimics a virus in the way it spreads itself and then does nothing to heal the body, but only to spread death and destruction within the body eventually killing it.
So true. I don't think they are quite aware of how tired of their Islam based actions we are.
You first must realize the Arab world people the comon people have been held down by their rules, dictators an so called kings of the kindomd for generations they know nothing about how to rule them selves unless they are guided. The Arab spring is new to this part of the world, it's a kind to a baby let loose in a candy store with no rule of beheavor. They have been with out every thing for so long that they want it all RIGHT NOW EVERY THING. Now all they know is hate an BURN BABY BURN. They pick on the USA not that we 're all that bad all they see is how good we have it an they want the same thing they see use as a very BIG CANDY BAR an they want the same thing, do you blaim them. The peoblem is a mob leading the mob just hate a revange is all they know an being with out all these years. Whats the answer to the Arab World problems, time will answer that lets hope they figure out how do it pease fully before they kill more of there own people in the process an some of use.
Gadaffi, Hussain, Mubarik and other dictators maintained control of extreme factions through brutal force. Once we allowed or caused them to fall, we unleashed their crazies to do whatever they want. Putting that genie back in the bottle will take brutal force.
There are portions of any country that oppose the bad policies of powerful extremists. If we choose to look for a humane way to control the violence, we will only prolong the violence. The only way to get control is the way the Great Generation won WWII: Bomb the whole population into submission and re-train them in more civilized behavior.
Yes. The Arab world is fraught with extremism. They also have legitimate gripes, which extend far beyond movies. (Gee. We're so sorry we killed those school girls. We're just here to help you.) Mix the two and add social disorder from the Arab spring and you get... trouble. Potentially lots of it.
Stop hiding behind little girls and innocents and they will not be killed.
Stand up and be a man.
There he goes again.Fareed's take. Slapping lipstick on Obama's pig with a HUGE brush. What a useless biased piece. Once the morons who read it buy this crap and re-elect the poseur in chief,CNN ought to dump you quick.
they didnt dump him after he ADMITTED TO PLAGERISM! what makes you think that they will dump him for simply LYING for the govt? by the way,who did he steal this story from?
chris
they didnt dump him after he ADMITTED TO PLAGERISM! what makes you think that they will dump him for simply LYING for the govt? by the way,who did he steal this story from?
He was cleared of the charges, moron.
Many of the responses here have pointed out the fundamentals of the U.S. relationships with most countries in the Middle East and Africa.They are easily summarized: oil, U.S. support for Israel, and giving people the opportunity to emigrate to the U.S. We used to have the reason of global security by thwarting the Soviet Union's aims in the region, but that's gone.
Many people have also pointed out that most Muslims aren't violent, but it's certainly a hallmark of their religious writings and speech. In my recollection, the New Testament doesn't tell Christians to defend Christianity until their bodies are covered with blood – nor in the same paragraph talk about taxing nonbelievers. It's an interesting verse from the Koran, but it basically says if they don't acknowledge the religion of Truth, fight them. Or if they don't pay their taxes, fight them, too.
I don't agree with some of the talk about the Crusades. You have to realize that the purpose of the crusaders was to liberate lands that were Christian before the military takeover by Islamic forces. Yes, violent, of course, and probably pillaging was a motivator for a some – but it was a long, long, time ago – the Crusades aren't relevant to any rational argument today.
My country is crippling itself with out of control military spending and social program-driven debt. I say, don't spend money on fortifying the embassies, close them down. We should pull out embassies in any country where there is a risk of military-style attack (e.g. rockets). That's a country that isn't doing their part to provide security for our ambassadors and the Marines that try to keep them safe. I'm not saying cease diplomatic relations with a particular country, just don't do it within their borders. That'll put a kink in the CIA's cover stories, but embedding CIA agents in oil companies would probably work just as well.
Also, I'd recommend cutting our foreign aid (direct and indirect) which was roughly $57 billion in direct aid in 2010. Does that seem low in comparison to other spending? Well, it's about 10% of Medicare costs in 2010. So, it's not small, it's real.
Cmon Zack! what are you gonna do when Romney removes Osama Obama out of office? I guess you wont need your chapstick, cuz Mormans aren't into oral favors
TERRORIST GROUPS IN INDIA
• RASHTRIYA SWAYAM SEWAK SHANG (R.S.S.)
• VISHWA HINDU PARISHAD
• HINDU MUNNANI
• ARYA SAMAJ
• SHIV SENA
• BHARATIYA JANATA PARISHAD
• SANT SAMITI
• HINDU MAHASABHA
• BAAJRANG DAL
LEADERS: L.K. Advani/ Ashok Singhal/ Bala Saheb Devaras/ Bal Thackeray/ A.B. Vajpayee/ Savarkar/ Baikunnth Lal Sharma “Prem”/ Balraj Madhok/ The Shankaracharya of Puri, Niranjan Dev Theerth/ Rama Gopalan/ Variyar – Vishwan Hindu Parishad/ Dharmalinga Nadar/ Cho Ramaswamy
Terror groups in the USA:
The DIMocRATic Party
CNN
BSNBC
ABC
CBS
Occupiers
TBC
OBAMANOS!!!
You are responding to a Pakistani muslim with an axe to grind.
In the adult world, if you are going to accuse someone of something, you have to state examples of what they are doing.
Making lists does not denote anything.
It is no secret that Hitler and his Nazi cronies sought inspiration from Indian extremist groups including the branding of his Nazi Party by adopting the Swastika, a traditionally Hindu symbol and representation of Hindu god Ganesha, as its marketing tool. The thesis being that like the Norwegian massacre the Jewish holocaust orchestrated by Hitler was inspired by the inherently violent cult of Indian Hindus and the manifesto of its then extremist/terrorist groups still in existence today. These groups are now the successors to and carrying out the vision of Al Qaeda all over the world albeit in a clandestine manner.
My friend you have no idea what you are talking about. India and the native Hindus are one of the few countries in the world which has provided exile to outsiders for centuries, the Jews/Zoroastrians from Iran from Muslim invaders for example. Hinduism and other Indian religions do not claim exclusiveness to god – "all rivers lead to the ocean". By the way atheism is cool too, no objections to it. Even today the groups you have listed do no criticize other religions but object to foriegners coming in and insulting the native Hindu/Sikh/Buddhist religion and using money and force to gain converts. If more people followed the Indian way of respecting all religions I think there would be less problems. Remember this is a Hindu majority country were the supposed right wing Hindu party (BJP – and they are not right wing at all, just very patriotic) strongly supports a Muslim president (of good character) over a Hindu candidate for president (not of good character).
The little indian puke lyng somemore...he carry's obamas vomit...
WELL SAID!! HE IS JUST A HABITUAL LIAR! and dont forget that he was suspended for plagerism! he probably stole this article also!
zackariah is one of cnn's biggest antagonists out there, along with that other worthless pos roland martin
Death to America???
Well the first thing this whole issue reveals is how bad reporting in north america has become. we take believe what violent protestors tell us rather than do simple investigation to report on a story.
One week after the events, a script writer for the movie that is at the center of this issue was reported to have clearly stated no one showed up at the movies release, that the online clips are simply clips that have been dubed into arabic by someone- perhaps the arabic dubbing uses language more insulting that the original movie- but in the end that is a non issue- as we dont know anyways because no reporter has checked into the original dialogue and the dubbed dialogue....the fact is this was a movie put out and premiered somewhere as per the script writers words- not a homemade short clip posted online.
the question is, what was the ratings approval given this film by the film board?
all this vile condemnations have been put forward against a movie given some sort of ratings by a board- where are those board members and what are their comments?
Libya...we love you too!....but my Porsche need gas...can you help us out.....lol
Face it! Muslims are nothing more than rabid animals and should be shot on sight. Including those so called "peaceful" Muslims here in the US. They all hate us and want to see us dead so I say make them dead first.
says a muslim trying to incite people just like they do in their sand pits.
Freed seems to be lost in hinduism, ignorance of western soul, Desire, defined by hindu fabricated word's, such as extremist, terrorist, fabrication of hindu Jew's, filthy self centered, secularist and deniers of truth absolute, foundation of existence of every thing in existence, bed rock of American
even after coming off a suspension for PLAGERISM,fareed just cannot for the life of him tell the truth or stop lying! the rebels in libya are al-qaeda and have been since day one! fareed,there is not a lie that you can tell that will ever trump that fact.
there is no libyan govt. the election there was a sham! the entire town of Bin Walid is STILL UNDER GADAFFI SUPPORTERS CONTROL! a town witha population of over 400 000 people who repelled the al-qaeda rebels once nato withdrew. and not a single one of them voted in that sham of an election,and not a single one of them recognize the new al-qaeda backed govt of libya.
fareed,you are just a liar for the obama admin and a propogandist. if you believe the lies that you print for CNN and obama,why dont you go over to libya and see for yourself who controls that country? and please,dont forget to tell them that you are indian and not a muslim,you will never come back home!
***NEWS FLASH*** The Crusades did not end in 1291, they are alive & well and we are in the cross hairs.
Your behavior is so juvenile.
Go home to your baba.
bed rock of American fundamental of independence. GOD. To be in following of truth absolute is essential for a positive outcome of any process, a necessity to be in extremely careful while a person is preforming a function to create, To put some one in fully dedicated to truth of a process in negative light is nothing but hinduism, denial of truth absolute and way of hindu's, ignorant s, so is the word Terrorist, literally meaning, self centered, a secular, A Jew, A pig, Lucifer, criminal, considering himself to be truth absolute, GOD. One in obedience to truth absolute can never be defined as such by fundamentals of language. West need to learn language before spewing hinduism, absurdities about Muslim's devoted to Truth absolute GOD, west in following of hindu Jew's, ignorant self centered, hindu Sanatans, filthy man god of Mithriac hindu's, savior ism labeled as Christians. For more visit http://www.limitisthetruth.com/blog.html and click on word Choice to open file.
media protecting Obama . They dont show in detail what happened in Libya . Ambassador was sodomixzed tortured and lynched on the streets . With Usa Navy patroling the sea ..
hinduism, absurdity of a hindu, lair, read new's, he died of smock inhalation, nothing else by CNN account.
Extreme nut case.
Jesus is also a prophet in Islam and is mentioned by name many more times that the Mohammadd guy. Why, when the "prophet Jesus" is displayed in controversial art (which happens ALL the time) are Muslims strangely silent – No Embassies stormed, no Ambassadors r@pped and s0domized?
I think its funny too that Obama is trying to claim this wasn't planned, even though they were given a 24 hour warning by Libya security. But it makes Obozo look bad, so he will keep pushing the film as the culprit.
Pravda, the Koran also says that God didn't have a son. So, I am guessing that Jesus is a minor prophet in the eyes of the believers of the lies and uncooborated bunk that is known as the Koran/Islam!
As for the attack on our installation in Libya, even the president of Libya concedes that it was a well coordinated attack by Al Quada!!! Why can't our genius on foreign policy president figure that out?
He has failed us in Egypt, in Libya, in Syria, in Israel, in afghanistan, and in regards to Iran. Maybe that is why he cannot understand the most BASIC of facts. Time to CHANGE this dirty diaper!!!
OBAMANOS PENDEJO!!!
If any American writes anything against Judaism, Israel, or Zionism in a public forum they are immediately accused of a hate crime, investigated by the FBI, put on a black list, and no newspaper, magazine, radio station or TV station allows any kind of criticism to Jews, Judaism, Zionism or Israel, but they almost all welcome and participate in demonizing Arabs, Muslims, Islam, Palestine and call it "Freedom of Speech." There is no freedom of speech in the U.S., there is highly-selective "Freedom of Speech" and most often than not, Zionist Jews are in charge of defining what is "Freedom of Speech" and what is a "Hate Crime." We who live in Larger "Israel" [aka U.S.] know that very well
Muslims demonize themselves.
Noone is helping them get there except maybe their mullahs or imams.
EVERYONE – Please meet CNN's APOLOGIST in CHIEF! FAREED ZAKARIA! Every keeps trying to minimize the demonstrations and attacks. Look at CNN's own pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many 10's of thousands! No a "lunatic fringe" NOT a "minority" NOT "Islamaphobia" – FACT in color video and pictures! Hopefully Fareed did not plagiarize here as well...
This bunch of hacks are no better than what I see @ BSnbc!!!
OBAMANOS!!!)
Why has this PLAGIARIST been allowed to post an ariticle!!! Journalistic integrity please!
"...we should be honest that moderates in the region tend to be weak and often cowardly, but we should try to help them. If the United States pulls out, the crazies will only get stronger."
Still never hear a reasonable (and factual) arguement about why this is? We get less than 20% of our oil from that region. If we stopped exporting any of the oil we produce in the US (which makes sense we are the largest consumer, why export what we will obviously use) it would be even less than that. Why spend billions of dollar of aid and soldiers lives on this region when it is Europe that needs it stable not the US?
There is nothing wrong with America taking a back seat in situations where it isn't of huge interest. Let the Europeans deal with the crazies. We can take care of business in other ways.
How did this wing nut get back to writing stories? His absence was sure nice while it lasted ...
Islam is the path to true ignorance.
1) Immediately terminate all aid (humanitarianism or otherwise) to all muslim countries.
2) Immediately close all embassies and recall all US personnel from all muslim countries.
Thank you Fareed.
Quick, Barack and Hillary; you need to apologize harder!! Try licking the floors clean at the closest radical mosque. That should do the trick. Don't forget to keep the immigration pipeline wide open so the crazed Islamists can get stronger and stronger on American soil.
Firstly – Benghazi has an American Consulate – not an Embassy
. Really like your writing and GPS conversations on Sundays – you dodged a bullet on the plagiarism charge – my guess is that you are over-extended on too many things and not able to commit to a few high quality activities. You have a chance at redemption and redoubling your efforts in focusing on excellence; getting deeper and more thoughtful in your insights and becoming very selective in the topics you are researching. Good luck.
I'm sorry, but the first couple of lines about not comparing this to Tehran is just out right stupid. Iran was friendly with us before the Shah left. After the revolution, then it became anti-American. The very same could happen with Libya if the anti-American protest gains traction and works its way into the government just like it did in Iran.
They became anti-American because their imams/mullahs were no longer restricted by the government and were able to lie. The populace is under-fed, under-educated, under-employed and easily led. The guy with the biggest mouth is the leader.
Iran was friendly with us before the Shah left.
Iranians hated us because we installed the Shah, after overtrowing thier elected leader.
The Shah was a brutal dictator.
You are an idiot.
"We"??? did not install the Shah or the Shatte.
They were Persian.
Stoopid!
Why does Fareed still have a job at CNN after plagarising an article? He should be fired.
Because he was cleared of the charges moron.
Actually, F admitted to plagiarizing and he was technically, albeit temporarily forgiven.
F propably lost his reputation big time and they probably cut his budget down and renewing his contract might be difficult or not as lucrative as previously.
There will always be someone to remind him of his indiscretion.
It must be tough for someone like him to read the comments being written about him, on his own bloggs.
Was it Fareed that said "four score and seven years ago"? I think it was!
And since 9/11 the world got against of how far our government will go to propagate false reasoning for having a presence in the middle east. 9/11 truth movement if only lame stream media would put the ral spotlight on our fast growing tyrannical dictator like givernment
"Friends, Romans, Countrymen", no, definitely not. Wait, no.
I have a simple plan for this violence. Start a war between the Shiets and the Sunnis, and a civil war in Iran. Just say that a shop keeper kept tring to give the wrong change because I'm the other type. That WILL do it! Sorry for the spelling of "Shiet", I'm at work and really don't have time to look these thing up.
The "cancer " you refer to started in 1979 in Tehran. Then spread to Beirut in 1983. It's been growing ever since. It most certainly needs to be dealt with by the people of Islam from within . The west is prepared to deal with it from the external side but the people who represent the religion have to make a conscious choice: do they want to be represented by murderers who use religion to cause harm to fellow human beings or do they choose to represent their faith and it's highest ideals of peace and the freedom to choose to worship? Will they take their religious leadership to task if they do not do what all Muslims know to be right? They should be educated enough in their religion to be able to do just that Hold their religious leadership accountable for causing harm.
Every morning I take a leak on the Quoran & then imagine I'm taking a dump on the false Prophet Mohammed
Religion is a poison.
Good article!
Wake up America.....all this propaganda must go with mr. O.....no sheep here mr. Z..... "Islam"...most all muslim's will follow..action's are louder than words. They are at war with the so called non-believer's for how many years now? Wake up a smell their jihad.....
A copt lying? What a surprise. I had a friend who told was told by a coworker that Egypt is mostly christian and that muslims are a minority. It didnt sound right so we googled it and what do you know...a lie. It was around the same time I was hearing about their conspiracy theories of muslims kidnapping their daughters and brainwashing them into converting to their islam. uh huh, it has nothing to do with your daugther converting and running away because she knew you wouldn't accept it (which is understandable) but being deceiptful is loooooww. I'd never trust a copt.
Sadly perception becomes reality in this world. America has many enemies and has had many enemies overseas for decades. This one sad incident created and released by one mentally ill man gives our historic enemies in the middle east a means to create more animosity against our country although undeserved as it obviously is.
The most honest and accurate exposition of cause and events in the middle east that Zakeed has offered up so far. Good to see that
the fog has finally lifted and he now sees what the rest of do: it's a big, complicated and variegated corner of the world.
Think about this: over 20,000 Muslims were killed last year in Syria, why aren't they protesting and mobbng Syrian consulates and embassies around the world, why aren't they killing the the Syrian diplomats? Why aren't they burning the Syrian flag? Something is very strange about all these protests, the releasing of the video, just before the election, wonder who put up the funding for the video. Sort of reminds me of the old movie "Wag the Dog" about a fake war to take attention away from real issues. Wonder who would benefit from putting the President in a tenuous position, who has huge funding pacs???? Think about it........who has a history of playing dirty pool???
Hmmm.....Wonder why the International Community is sooooo silent in the ongoing genocide in Kashmir. Hmmmmmmm...
NEW YORK: Renowned Indian activist and novelist Arundhati Roy has decried the silence of the international community over the continued “brutal Indian occupation of Kashmir” and said Kashmiris should be given the right to self-determination……
"Amnesty International is calling for an impartial investigation into mass graves found in Indian-controlled Kashmir. Sunday, India's Jammu and Kashmir State Human Rights Commission released a report saying a three-year investigation had uncovered 2,156 unidentified bodies in 38 sites in the region. In a statement released Monday, Amnesty International asked Indian officials to allow impartial forensic experts to carry out a thorough investigation of the skeletal remains. The rights group also urged Indian authorities to ensure the safety of the witnesses who gave statements to police during the investigation. Indian authorities conducted the inquiry in response to allegations that Indian security forces have committed rights abuses in fighting a more than two-decade-long Muslim separatist insurgency. Rights activists say at least 8,000 people have gone missing in Indian Kashmir since the separatists began fighting in 1989 for independence from Hindu-majority India or a merger with Muslim-majority Pakistan. Rebel attacks and Indian government crackdowns have killed at least 50,000 people.
Wag the turban.
Just typical muzzie behaviour.
They kill, are killed.
Their children kill, are killed.
Their religious leaders use them like tampons.
"If the United States pulls out, the crazies will only get stronger."
I'd love to know how the author comes to this glib conclusion. Here's a thought, maybe if the U.S. didn't rain rockets down on their cities, the "crazies" wouldn't be so "crazy."
So you are one of those who wants to placate the "crazies"?
The General Ignorance about ISLAM is what causes all the problems. Everyone judges and makes their own versions but no one bothers to READ and actually LEARN from anything.
Islam isn't the Problem and neither is AMERICA. Islam, Muslims, have been a part of American History for a long time and it's what makes America so strong, that we have taken like minded people from across the globe who live for Freedom and stand for justice and created a UNITED nation.
American Muslims aren't burning anything down over a FAILED film , why? they are educated, they have learned their Islam and follow it's true path without fear of being killed.
Once you start hating on even your FELLOW Americans is when you my friend are the enemies
I have read the Qu'ran and the Hadith and there are more calls to kill all infidels, and chop arms, legs, hands, heads then the civilized world could ever comprehend.
My friends who read Arabic tell me that the Arabic versions are even worse.
Muslim is as muslim does.
I am getting bad vibes reading about Hindus and Indians and their culture. I have read up on them as well and don't like what I see. How can our government be supporting India, a culture so brutal and anti women, children and minorities. I have put in a call to our congressional delegation and emailed them as well opposing any further financial aid/support of any kind to India. We Americans cannot condone such archaic cultures. I urge all Americans to contact their congress people and voice their concerns regarding India.
Plagiarism is a sign of weakness.
I agree. Fareed plagiarizes, and I will not tolerate this as a CNN viewer.
INSANITY rules. Suppose a large group of people in the Andes worships green monkeys that are imaginery and some guy posts a video about it. AMERICA is free speech and you have a right to say, record or post on the internet your opinion. If these green monkey people then riot(because one of them is in the modern world) and cause all kind of harm out of their hatred for us, that is the price we pay for freedom. Should we think about all we do, yes but nobody tells an American to conform to their rules or else.
more lies from obama, this was a terrorist attack by members who obama protects, this an outright act of treason on the part of the obama administration. the obama administration and obama himself are protecting those who want to destroy America. It is time for true patriots to take back America from those who hate it and we know who they are, its the Godless supporters of obama and the obama administration. soon these people who obama protects will be causing more problems on our soil, obama lies and protects those who want to hurt you, it is time for obama to go.
NUTCASE !
Where are all the deminstration as Assad kills his contry?
This story matches Hillary's statement almost word for word, as do most other Dems. I think the memo went out to get them on the same page, to further this ridiculous movie theme. Can't believe how many supposedly smart people misread the attacks.
All who would insult the prophet should be beheaded.
Yeah, right_ go back to the 6th Century where all this stuff belongs...suits me
So, now do we have enough right to attack Iran? Perfect Job!!!
Mr. Zakaria seems more objective than usual. At any rate, a decent attempt to make some sense out of the confusion. The Muslim world seems to be in confusion based on the general media. The uproar is backfiring by making this crappy film made by a low-life of dubious origin, into one of the most influential films of the century, de facto. Every religion is made fun of and mocked, why are the Muslim's so sensitive? Have they all turned into raucous vandals, rioting, murdering, burning, destroying all that is good in the world, manifesting mob mentality at its worst, and also where possible insulting Christianity and all other views? Perhaps not. The millions of Muslims extremists filling our TV screens 24 hours a day are only a small percentage of the total Muslim population, the rest of whom are probably watching this all on TV like you and me, and sticking with their day jobs. We have our white supremecist gun freaks, our extremist Islamophobes, our conservatives and tea partyites (you know, the ones with fast tongues, big mouths and small brains? LOL), here in the west, maybe just not as many. Maybe we should round up all those in both extremist camps, and drop them into a pit. Then the world would finally be able to get along peacefully. The rest of us normal people of a great variety of religions, put people and 'good relationships' above the tenets of our religions which are a little outdated, somewhat charming, not much more than a relic or curious connection to our ancient past, and consider bickering over religious rules to be an unfriendly anal activity at best.
Intellectualize it all you want and twist it and spin it and dissect it but the bottom line is that people throughout the World are sick and tired of being treated disrespectfully and have their religion mocked and they arent going to take it anymore. I dont blame them one bit. Christ's and Mohammed's teachings have been disrespected and mocked long enough by others.
I respectfully disagree. Those who cast insult upon people of various beliefs or disbeliefs are merely mostly normal people who are immature and probably just ignorant of how to be respectful. Give them time to grow and learn. Try to understand. If you react like animals to such ignorance, whether you are a deistic religionist or of a non-deist philosophy, it only makes you look bad and this hurts whatever cause you are associated, and it makes your antagonist happy. I think a better alternative to exploding and acting like a mob of barbaric animals, if there is one, would be to remain level headed and sound intelligent, and be nice. This would be the exact opposite of what your antagonist wants and it would possibly stun him and make him look like a little rat, and he would be the one freaking out. It would be better for the the cause you represent anyway even if it doesn't satisfy you lower base emotions.
Weak minds have weak gods.
Maybe your gods wouldnt be attacked if you stopped pushing them in peoples faces.
Not "people" but specifically muslims who seem to have very delicate feelings about a pedophile butcher.
However, muslims have no problem in abusing Christians, Jews, Hindus and each other as they see fit.
believe me u make no sense no more,its time for u to retire,thxs.
n if u think i was b.s ing?read some of the other comments?some want u straight fired,i just want u to retire,u get my point?
Just give Israel the weapons it needs to kill these crazies and pull all of our people out of the Middle East. They are not worth it! We don't need their oil. We have more than enough to supply our needs here in the USA if we tell the environmental extremists to go to hell and just drill for it.
Funny muzzie, you can destroy your environment if you want to–after all its only a sandpit. But, I vote for alternate ways.As always, it is all about money.
STOP Plagiarizing Zakaria!!!! You are the worst! You should be fired NOW!!!
the moderates never speak up...either because they can't for fear of death...or they just don't...allowing the evil to.perpetuate.
Yes it's your job Zakaria but your opinion matters very little in the USA .. You are a foreign born plagiarist with a monstrous ego and have zero credibility .. Please just go away ..
Americans are increasingly skeptical of Mr. Zakaria’s ability to portray any issue involving people of his Muslim faith in an unbiased manner (in line with the worldwide Muslim Ummah!), as also his constant TRASHING of Americans & the Jewish people, as clearly seen in nearly everyone of his stories including the following:
“How Democracy can work in the Middle East”
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2045888,00.html?hpt=T1
“How Russia created its own Islamic TERRORISM problem”
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2044540,00.html
His support of the GROUND ZERO VICTORY Mosque and the radical Imam Rauf
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1008/22/fzgps.01.html
Check out my detailed comments there. Make sure to click on “more” at the bottom to scroll through all my comments.
Americans are increasingly realizing that JIHAD AS SPREAD BY THE PEN through the main stream media is EVEN MORE DANGEROUS THAN THAT SPREAD BY THE SWORD!!!
Amit-Atlanta-USA
Was this written in your own words this time or??
You cannot buy friends; not real friends. Those are earned. NO MORE MONEY should be sent to countries that are not our friend. NONE WHATSOEVER. It is one thing to see American flags being burnt in the street but to see it day after day with no governmental intervention or comment is something altogether different. You cannot buy friends so we need to stop trying.
There ain't no answer. There ain't gonna be any answer. There never has been an answer. That's the answer.
Gertrude Stein
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/topics/topic_politics.html#VRw7CbhbMCXuF0DU.99
There is no question that it was a premeditated attack. The fact that the US was not on hi alert on 9/11 and on every 9/11 is un believable. We have Jimmy carter as president all over again
Who says we were not on high alert?
How can you say that with the little, teeny, tiny little knowledge of what really happened.
Stop trying to raise shiet.
Step 1: Make Flags out of Detonation Cord
Step 2: Sell flags in those countries
Step 3: Release "insulting" film.
Step 4: Watch extremists explode when they light them on fire.
Fareed, try as you may, try as you might but, you can't cover for your buddy Obama's ineptness. The SOB is stirring up a war to get himself re-elected.
Now there are protest in Pakistan and apparently the protest in the Arab Spring countries is tappering off.
This will all blow over as the goverments will start getting control with these newly installed elected leaders. Don't panic.
Richard Engel of NBC was helpful in pointing out that there were only about 2000 demonstrators in the second incident in Cairo incident. Most news outlets ignored that and left it up to the viewer an impression of a large bunch of people and thusly making it more significant than it really was.
Mr. Romney's advisors have put out noise that these riots would not have happened under him as president which is absurd. He shows the same carelessness and lack of knowledge of foreign affairs as the previous Republican ex-President GW Bush who start a terribly miscalculate adventure in Iraq. Mr. Romney appears too dangerous and loose mouthed to be president.
Finally, a reasonable voice! Ambassador Stevens made it his life's work to usher in a new era of Western/Middle Eastern relations. Salafis: Do you really think that his efforts to build a better Libya were based in his hatred of your religion? Tea Trolls: Do you really believe that Stevens would have dedicated himself to assisting the rejuvenation of a country full of nothing but bloodthirsty zealots? A little logic goes a long way.
Why are the extremists always the loudest? Cease the hyperbole ON BOTH SIDES AND MOVE ON!
As an alternative can we really trust whatever Mr. Romney says even though he means what he says when he says it until he changes what he says. Understand?
Shiet raiser!
kinda sounds like the US in the 1960"s
Mr.Fareed Zakaria's ASTOUNDING pick of the week on his CNN GPS show 02/20/11 – Check out the CNN GPS transcripts
“Media Relations Department of HEZBOLLAH Wishes You a Happy Birthday: Unexpected Encounters in the Changing Middle East".
A book he describes in superlative terms!
What Mr. Zakaria says "It's a WONDERFUL COLLECTION of portraits of the region and what it shows you is the voices of YOUNG REFORMERS!!!!!!
The same reformers who called yet again just y'day for the killing of Americans and destruction of America and the Jewish state.
Still don't understand where his symapthies lie......it's squarely with the Islamic radicals and even terrorists.
GOD SAVE AMERICA if he succeeds in becoming our next US.SEC.OF STATE !!!!
Our American leaders always invoke God to bless America at the end of their important speeches and messages. Perhaps the American leaders should take this message to heart: Galatians 6:7-8 ESV
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.
Calling them "protests" masks the most important parts of the story.
Go ahead, tells us the most important parts , enlighten us.
Why are we wasting our time patronizing this (CNN) obama-water-carrier media source? The old USSR Pravda had more credibility. I'm out of here. Going to drudgereport.com
Either you are a liar or completely ignorant.
Choose one, I do not care.
It’s an Inconvenient Thing to Have to Be President When You Really Are Best at Running for Office’
Obama now has effectively allowed a terrorist attack and murders on US soil.
Turn the other cheek libs.
Oh stop, bashing Obama is so yesterday.
Several people involved have been captured.
We have not gotten into a decade long war.
No innocent people have been killed in a misguided retaliation.
How does that compare to previous reactions?
Two decade long wars. 100s of 1000s of innocent people killed in a misguided retaliation. The number of terrorists went up dramatically each time an innocent family was slaughter by mistake.
All things considered I would go with Obama's approach.
GPS is one of the best news discussion programs available with the best experts and different opinions.
Do these people realize that their hate and violence is giving their faith a bad name?
But then again I follow one who taught us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us; one who prayed from the cross for those who were crucifying him; one who laid down his life for the sins of us all.
Of course we who follow this Jesus of Nazareth, believe he was and is the son of God and that he arose from the dead.
Bwahahahahahaha
hahahahahah
Also, I might add:
HA!
Christians have been the most violent force in the history of the world. No matter what this Jesus guy taught you.
A Dude is a pimple on a horse's hiney.
mr fareed............
Is this "your" story or someone else's?
If it's "your" story then we hope you didn't add a little "taqiyya"!
you slimey little snake.......
I believe we've missed an important lesson. A good read on chaos theory will instruct us that the destination of a storm can be determined by the minutest of variances in distant locales. We seem to forget , even after the 'Arab Spring', that we are in the Internet age. Astute thought leadership would take this into account. It's not just about isolated extremism, it's about mindfulness of our P's&Q's.
Remember how being afraid of muslims and not believing in them is considered "islamphobia"
Liberals are still lying about the religion of peace
You think only liberals think that way?
"If the United States pulls out, the crazies will only get stronger..."
Until the Chinese army marches into Riyadh. Then, no more riots and nice, cheap gasoline!!! It's a win-win...
And if we don't pull out you think that things will go just fine like right now? Can we afford to leave our troops in this dangerous situation? Our presence is a recruiting tool for the Taliban.
Excellent article. However, doesn't address the root cause at all. Just growing pains Fareed says. True enough. The whole US involvement has been counter productive for the next 50 years. Maybe even longer. Who knows?
I remember during the Iranian hostage crisis that Western cameras would pan back away from the core group of a few hundred or a thousand and there would be visible pavement. One news report expressed it very well, these are young, uneducated, unemployed men who have nothing else to do. The majority in the country wants the violence to be OVER. These are thugs, like the gangs that roam our inner cities. The only difference is their target!
Good point. The news likes to build up stories a bit to increase interest.
Obama seems clueless. His administration hasn't figured out that all of those RPGs were planned! Obama must be hiring morons or Obama is lying his butt off. The latter is probably more likely. Obama's middle east policy of hands off has created a home of al Qaeda. They love Obama. Now the rest of the world will find out just how bad Obama has screwed them as the terrorists launch world attacks.
And, here are some TRULY ASTOUNDING QUOTES from an article Mr.Zakaria wrote on the eve of the 1oth anniversary of 9/11. Ref: CNN GPS “Reflections on 9-11 & the aftermath" This article – must serve as a True EYE-OPENER for most Americans by which Mr. Zakaria aptly summarize his hatredness for all things American while PRETENDING to be a patriot!
Here’s what Mr. Zakaria said:
a) “History might well record 9/11 as the beginning of the decline of America as planet’s unrivaled hegemon.” !!!
b) Today, America is at war across the globe; it has a deficit of $1.5 trillion and oil is at $115 a barrel. China is now the world’s second largest economy. (Really Mr. Zakaria? Except for Iraq every American knows that these wars were imposed on America. On the deficit one day you sing a tune saying that America’s deficit problem is NOT as big as it is made out to be, and the next day you sing a different tune!).
And, here’s the MOST ASTOUNDING statement of all
d) “The danger comes not from them but from us.” (Well said Mr. Zakaria, You indeed are a great patriot! In reality you are truly one of the greatest of followers of the HOLY PROPHET!).
Keep up the good work Mr. Zakaria!
Amit-Atlanta-USA
Nice talking back to yourself. Must be fun.
come on all you young amateur film makers...all you liberals who LIVE for free speech! let it rip!
How about this for a flick! Colorful...'eh?
We'll call it "The Lady Is A B!tch".
The problem with India is that is built on a system of cultural and societal values based on Hinduism which is a cult. Nations built on a cult seldom survive in the long run. Now just take a look at these two Hindu goddesses and the destruction and lack of morality they represent.
Goddess Kali's statue stands naked astride the inanimate body of the Hindu deity Shiva, tongue stuck out with blood dripping from fang-like teeth. She holds a noose, a skull-topped staff, a blood-encrusted sword and a severed head. Disgusting, to say the least. Would you want your kids growing up with such inspiration?
Meanwhile, goddess Panchali was married to five brothers. Which one would become the legitimate father of his child should she have one? Dr Charles (renowned author and an authority on India) says that instances of incest are common in Hindu scriptures. Decadent ! Immoral !
Talk about being between a b!tch and a tramp!!
So much racism & hostility against fellow Americans and they call the Muslims rouge? These people ought to get a life. By the way Fareed is not a Hindu. If you weren’t so ignorant you would have known.
. How do you stop a global machine from setting it's own agenda when they control the media and the media controls you by filtering "news" that they what you see, hear and fear!
Let's see...they struggle to have a decent existence, like running water, food, indoor plumbing, YET, they make sure they have the internet and cell phones Makes sense.
Which is worse: This movie or the videos sent by terrorists of cutting off Nick Berg's and Daniel Pearl's heads.
With respect to the writer's point that we should support these 'friends' behind the scenes, I want to see them out on the streets shouting down the mobs FIRST! No more just 'believing' they exist, that they're at home in peace toward America. No more of that because we NEVER see them. These so called 'friends' need to come out en mass and SHOW me or I'll continue to believe they don't exist, or that they are cowards who we don't want as friends anyway.
And now we're getting reports on several sites that there was actually no real "demonstration" before the attack on the embassy, which just happened to take place on 9/11. CNN, why are you working so hard to protect Obama's reputation? The whole movie blame game is getting old, and no one believes it anymore.
The old processes of foreign policy that operated through embassies and host governments have been overtaken by the social networking effects of twitter, facebook and uTube. Since these methods are going to be a major source of information, it would be necessary to use internet marketing techniques to identify and trace how this information is being disseminated and to whom. It is not enough to just use traditional methods to disseminate information, but to also use the internet to target potential users with proactive information.
If you have tears, prepare to shed them now.
If you have any b@lls, prepare to sacrifice them now.
But the time has come for Indian Hindus to get out of the trenches from hiding,
And face the Talibans head on and do the biding.
Protecting your country is Indian responsibility,
Subcontracting to Americans, Israelis and South Koreans is not an enduring possibility.
With such "Dark Age" culture still in existence in India how can the world be healthy and the neighbors prosperous. India poses a grave danger to the world and its deities and leaders set a bad example. Mahatma Gandhi, a pedophile, needs to be exposed and tried posthumously for his child molestation crimes just like the Penn State crowd Sandusky et al. Gandhi's statutes need to be knocked down everywhere they have been put in USA. The hindu deities need to be shattered and trashed. Disgusting figurines of ugly and scary looking characters with demonic personalities. How can hindu children grow up mentally stable looking at such atrocious representations of evil in its most heinous form.
You are the media. You are responsible for credible journalism and reporting on this issue. I have only seen articles about very few and small public gatherings and demonstrations in Lybia, Egypt, Tunisia etc opposed to what has happened. Given that, I do not see the anti americanism and extremist islamist movements being a fringe group in those countries. They are either a mainstream movement or at least accepted by the majority. The cancer of religious extremism is spreading fast.
I just don't care how right or wrong they are. The Muslims are my enemy. Simple. Do you understand THAT ????
I thought they fire plagiarists. Oh, wait, this is CNN...
Well written
When the Denmark cartoons came out, there was rioting IN Denmark. When some of the other European countries offended them, there was rioting and violence in THOSE countries. Yet, there have been NO violent protests within the United States by the Muslims living here, even though this is the country of origin for that offensive film?
Is this perhaps something we should give credit to Bush over? Probably not, yet I think the muslims here no doubt sense something about Americans that warns them against such action, and I think it is the same trait that continues to make us a rather unique people in the world.
This has been going on for hundreds of years in the middle east and Obama thought he was going to solve all of it with a speech and a smile! Bottom line: they hate Americans. This was a PLANNED terrorist attack and the fact that this administration is trying to blame it on a video is a pathetic joke! You have the president of lybia saying this was a planned attack. You have the isreal prime minister pleading with US voters to pick a president who will draw a red line with iran. Obama has been a failure and a joke in every way, from his policies here and abroad! He is filled with blame everyone else and distractions. This is all from the president who said he was going to be the most transparent. LOL. OBAMA TACTICS: first blame bush and what he "inherited", apologize for America then blame Christianity and republicans. Can Americans really be dumb enough to re-elect this failure?!
This sounds strange, but it kinda bothers me that there has been NO uprising of any kind here in the U.S I seriously doubt it is because the muslims here are somehow more civilized.
I am worried that something HUGE and terrible is being planned.
I can understand the people being upset. Heck, I even get upset with xians are depicted incorrectly. HOWEVER, that does not mean that I'll go protest and kill someone, like what happened in Libya. Protest, make your opinion known. That's great. Xians often boycott companies who are promoting something they don't like, etc. Heck, those offended in other countries can even burn our flag. They are not citizens of our country so what does it matter? JUST DON'T KILL PEOPLE OVER IT. It is just a movie.
The problem is and always has been that moderate Muslims look the other way. Extremists murders hundreds of times more Muslims than others – but moderates do nothing.
Mr. Zakaria, you say, "We should be honest that extremism exists, we should be honest that moderates in the region tend to be weak and often cowardly, but we should try to help them. If the United States pulls out, the crazies will only get stronger." Why can't they see the same way about a "lone individual who made an amateur movie" who does not necessarily speak for the entire nation? It is always us who have to see it in a civilized manner while the rest of the muslim world continues to see everything in an "uncivilized" manner and expects us to understand and help. Help for what? So they can kill more Americans?
sad that Fareed has been allowed back at CNN. Seems plagiarism and lying is now acceptable at the "most trusted" news source.
Zakaria says "Arab" world is inflicted with cancer of extremism. Of what? Are Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran... Arab nations. Even Indonesia has produced brutal Muslim terrorists.
Correct statement is Islam and Muslims are inflicted with extremism. The question is it mainstream or extreme. It is mainstream, in my view.
I think rove or perle or one of those guys might have a hand in this video. it's just too weird and a distraction to the election, and potentially hurtful for obama.
also, why don't muslims rage like this about syria, that's some muslin on muslin killing. and also, al qaeda has killed more muslims that the west. I agree about iraq being a power and resource grab, and the torture and gitmo are wrong. but lets progress forward muslim world!! This is embarrassing.
*Muslim on Muslim killing, i am very sorry.
Fareed, you are the only truly independant and objective jounalist in the world. How do you get away with it? CNN is an American news agency. Jewish financiers edit the release of anything that is supportive of our "enemies"..The CIA would have controlled you or shut you down yrs. ago. I'm serious. I don't want to print my e-mail on this vine, but CNN does have my e-mail. Just give me a short response.
Thanks, KEVIN
So where the pro-American demonstration at?
You don't need to blame a video for disgracing Islam- these protesters are doing a fine job on their own!
Yes, Mr. Zakaria, those images don't tell the whole story. The whole story is that Mr. Obama very consistently destroying US inside out and outside in.
If anyone still don't see – you better open your eyes!!!
He degraded our relations with the closest ally in the Middle East (Israel) to the lowest point ever. He helped to push our distant allies (Mr. Mubarak and Mr. Gaddafi) out of the power and let Jihadists rule those countries. So now we loose lives of our diplomats and marines all over the Middle East.
But left wing liberals still applause to every Obama's word and action (or rather inaction).
Soon enough we are going to see the blood on streets of New-York, Boston, Chicago and Miami, and I wonder whether these brainwashed progressives will get it at that time ??? More likely not..... God bless America!
I think Zakaria is an intelligent man however he is obviously Liberal biased to the Max. His bias and constantly defending and promoting Obama and ignoring all the failures of Obama and how those failures have made this middle east crises even worse makes for his words to be MUTE or unbelievable since he only promotes Obama. I have watched his show various times and I do enjoy his intellect but disapprove entirely of his open and obvious Liberal bias. Unfortunately nearly all of CNN has lost any credibility for their open campaigning for Obama.
I think there is a meaning behind the coinciding these events with 9/11 anniversary. Some people want to disturb Muslim countries and Provoke them against to Western countries. Imaging prophets ( not only Prophet Mohammad but also others including Jesus) is forbidden in Islam. Western countries should respect that. On the other hand, Muslims should be careful while they are protesting this film, they should not kill innocent people and damage to building, disturb other people etc , because this is also against Islam's basics.
Of course the angry crowds are hundreds or thousands from millions but that doesn't mean the population as a whole is pro american. This can be seen in countries like Egypt which elected the Muslim Brotherhood after getting rid of a dictator. It is very clear that the majority of those people do not share our values, they always resort to violence and allow religious leaders to dictate their lives. Why is it that so many Muslim countries are still ruled by religion and only a few are secular?
"The country is pro-American by a 2-to-1 margin"
I... don't.... even....
The whole story can be told quite simply........the Islamic world is a totalitarian religion, that holds no allegiance to anything but the religion, and it will attack anyone who offends them at the slightest provocation, and they will murder, and destroy anyone or anything in their path.
They are a cancer, on the planet!
Lol ,Rick McDaniel. murderers? killers? cancer? wow, if we look at the the world with your mentality ,then we should nuke germany today.
When does the season open?
Well i am so sad to hear all the bad news that is going on in the world we all just need to pray and ask GOD to help us and for us not to see color or race money as our gods we forgget that there is only one GOD and its up to u what u call him or how u pray but just pray and mean it believe it i thank GOD everyday for Jeuse who died for all of our sins not just the rich the white but for all... so stop poniting figers and lets all stand as one and stop give evil a places in or hearts and soul may GOD bless us alll....
By the author's logic to conclude that the majority of Muslims are anti American there would have to be a larger number of protesters (millions) in the streets than those staying at home... but since that will never happen as not everyone is into rioting we will never be able to conclude that there is a strong anti American current. Right? Wrong
Hey Fareed, which Muslim newspaper did you copy your article from? Come on man, are you serious that the present Libyan government is pro-west. Most pro-West leaders like Mubarak, were never fond of the West. They tolerated it for their own interests. Islam, is a religion intertwined in politics. What will always drive Islamic politics is religion. As long as the two are co-joined, there will never be peace.
These people are just a bumnch of third-world tribal loonies.
how DARE they do this to America,kiil our embasy like this.These rioting monkeys.
We should GO TO WAR!!!!! TAKE Over these countries.MAke them OURS.,and stop this NONSENCE!!!!!!!!!!!
"In Libya, the government is not fomenting Anti-Americanism, it is fighting it, openly declaring America an ally and friend. The country is pro-American by a 2-to-1 margin..."
The problem is that we generally don't see that. Americans are used to counter protests–for every Westboro Baptist Church protest of a soldier's funeral, there is a Patriot Guard group of riders defending those same funerals. For every anti-abortion protestor yelling across a sidewalk, there is a pro-choice voice screaming back from the other side. Where the KKK tried to defend Jim Crow laws in the south, there were Freedom Riders and peaceful counter-marches through Selma and in DC.
But we simply DO NOT see that with Islamic extremists. We occasionally hear of polls saying that those riots aren't the "real" popular opinion, but we never hear from the moderates, not really. We never see them holding peaceful sit ins at known extremists mosques demanding a more peaceful Islam be taught there. You never see them holding large, public candle-lit vigils for the innocents killed in suicide bombing attacks. You never see them marching against the violence in force and proclaiming loudly that they represent the real views of a more tolerant and peaceful Islam.
Since 9/11, the answer to winning American understanding is simple. Large, peaceful counter-protests and continuous, immediate, and direct vocal condemnations of the acts of their Islamic brethren by the moderate factions.
This is an accurate analogy. The Arab world is still in transition and newly elected leaders in the 'liberated' Arab countries need to be bold, pragmatic and transparent with the Arab masses. Arabs need to realize they need the west the same wasy as the west needs them. Arabs still need to plant the seeds of democracy and ensure implementing a democratic process ruled by the majority and protecting the minority. Respect to other beliefs and civil liberties need to be enforced hand in hand with the implementation of a civil society
Thank you for writing this. The media coverage of these events is creating as narrow a view of the Middle East as those people protesting and rioting have of the U.S. I must admit I was even falling prey to the saturation of violent images. It would be nice if we had more balanced coverage with some interviews of "pro-USA" Libyans to balance things. It would be even better if the ambassador's murderers were brought to justice by Libyans to show support for our efforts.
There are some peaceful Muslims but those are only a few, beside some pro American protests in Libya all the rest have been violent anti American riots. Why don't they look at the ratio of anti vs pro American protests in the Middle East? That would be a very interesting statistic...
Ugh. Religion. Islam seems to produce people who are repressed and humorless at best, militant and psychotic at worst. After all this protest insanity I wish we could build walls around that part of the world, withdraw the western technology that's helped them (Google, facebook, cell phones, cars, etc.) and either let them evolve or murder each other. What have they offered to better the world, except for sitting on a supply of oil?
But no doubt, lacking an enemy to get righteously indignant at, and frustrated at the increasing deterioration in their countries that their 1400 year old laws will create, they'll violently break down the walls, invent grievances against Allah and the prophet, and set out to violently convert the rest of the world.
Two words:
Oil.
Well, I miscounted.
Yep. I am with you. Watch the "Canadian Bacon". White is never so bright when there is no black.
Like anyone believes the guy who plagarizes everyone else's work. Christianity and Islam are at direct odds with one another and that will never change. They cannot coexist period!
Hopefully, President Obama will speed up the withdrawal from Afghanistan as he did in Iraq.
Now there are protest in Pakistan and apparently the protest in the Arab Spring countries is tappering off. This will all blow over as the goverments will start getting control with these newly installed elected leaders. Don't panic.
Richard Engel of NBC was helpful in pointing out that there were only about 2000 demonstrators in the second incident in Cairo incident. Most news outlets ignored that and left it up to the viewer an impression of a large bunch of people and thusly making it more significant than it really was.
Mr. Romney's advisors have put out noise that these riots would not have happened under him as president which is absurd. He shows the same carelessness and lack of knowledge of foreign affairs as the previous Republican ex-President GW Bush who start a terribly miscalculate adventure in Iraq. Mr. Romney appears too dangerous and loose mouthed to be president.
Mr. Romney means what he says when he says it until he changes what he says. Understand?
Egypt elected the Muslim Brotherhood through democratic vote... I guess it was only those 2000 protesters that voted the extremist party because the majority of the people wanted a peaceful secular state
No, there many more and not all of them want violence. Apparently most Egyptians don't.
Well in that case how did the Muslim Brotherhood won a democratic election? Why would the majority of people, who are peaceful & loving, vote a group of religious extremists to lead their country?
Because that is the biggest party.
Haha... and why is that the biggest and most popular party? Don't evade the obvious...It's the biggest party because majority of people support it (including its ideologies)
So we have evolved to spew our hate on these comment pages? Are you saying Americans are to lazy to march with pitchforks and torches? I would join the angry mob, but I gotta work tomorrow and I'm watching a Simpsons re-run.
I wonder who actually wrote this column.
People call U.S. citizens ignorant, but Islam is stuck in the 1500s and is filled with racist, hate-filled people. It is time to see people speaking against this disgusting organization.
Let's criticize Islamic where it has faults. And hope that with more freedom the people will gradually turn away from radical ideas as they hear different viewpoints. Eventually, they will throw off the stupid and hurtful myths.
Yeah, uh, burn our flag, like its going to hurt us. You cannot wipe out what the flag means to the many Americans who have fought and suffered for our flag. We have a freedom which you will never experience in your lifetime. God or whomever your God is, gave you free will, but you do not understand that. When we see you and your people burning our flag, we do not get angry, because we know most of you and your people are ignorant. Step on our soil and we will handle your head to you on a platter. We do not care what you do in your country, we just sit back and shake our head, backwards people. No, I am not a Rep, I am a gun carrying Democrat, that will wipe you out, once you step in our land, the USA. Remember, I did not say anything bad about your religion, you can worship cow manure if that's what you want to do, that's your choice. Good luck, and I hope you have enough to feed your families tonight, and I hope that God blesses you tonight.
How I wish the Libyans really are learning democracy! My fear is that it will get worse – much worse – over there before it gets better. They need to control & contain their revolutionaries. Fareed, I believe you're correct that this is just years of oppression being released. How long does it take a new country (et all) to learn international manners? During that time, until it behaves as outsiders think it should, how many countries will just give up on them? The Libyans bought freedom with blood and sorrow; will they give it all up by letting some of their countrymen drive a wedge between them and the countries that helped them win that freedom? The next move is theirs!
Blaming the making of a video that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad as a excuse to do this harm is ridiculous by civil standards. This is an example of irrational religious ideology. Many people in the radical Islamic countries reside in something like European Dark Ages and need to be enlightened with access to outside sources of information. Such ignorance can be easily exploited by Al Qaeda extremism.
As Thomas Friedman has repeatedly said Islam needs modernity.
Growing up in the strict Islamic countries has much community pressure forcing people not question the religious leaders and leads to inhumane actions such as this. Outspoken critics are silenced by threats of violence. Some are then ripe for extremists to incite them to violence and in this case Al Qaeda may be in that role.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali writes about this from the point of view of growing up in Somali, escaping an unranged marriage, becoming a member of Danish parliament and then arriving in the U.S. She describes her history of each location in her books "Infidel" and "Nomad". The strict Islamic societies heavily employ the threat of a painful eternity if people don't conform to what the interpreters of the Quran tell them.
Anybody done a lexus nexus search to see who he plagiarized this story from? No credibility Zakaria
You don't deserve to work as a Journalist. You are a plagiarizer and a muslim sympathizer.
Glass is coming... Glass my friends... Glass........!!
With all due respect, this article is over-thinking the whole thing in an attempt at some logical gymnastics to somehow paint a more understandable picture of Arabic and Islamic societies. No matter how hard you try, you just can't get past the message that they are working overtime to send us: Death to America. Get it now?
OK Fareed....did YOU actually write this op-ed? Your credibility is in the sewer these days.
fraud fareed
you are so clueless
Mourners and Protesters: if they only show up because they are getting paid, I don't take them seriously.
Yes, yes, the Arab world actually loves us... btw did you write this article or "borrow" parts of it too?
Here are positive images: http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2012/09/we-hear-you-libyans.html
Wish the media would show these positive images to balance out the negative.
I agree.
I agree too.
There are some Muslims who are peaceful but those are only a few. Beside some pro American protests in Libya all the rest have been violent anti American riots. Why don't they look at the ratio of anti vs pro American protests in the Middle East? That would be a very interesting statistic...
Looks like CNN posted my reply in the wrong place.
I also agree with Blue In A Red State.
@Joe:
Like the article says, the anti-American protesters are just a small handful.
How is life in fanstasylalaland?
I also agree.
That was in reply to Blue In A Red State
Here are some fine examples of Mr.Zakaria’s biased writings:
1)Where he squarely blames the west, Russia and his native India for Muslim hatred, holding these nations “squarely responsible” for NOT merely Muslim discontentment but also “Muslim Terror”, and CONCLUDING that the danger is from us and NOT from them!
a) “Why do they hate us”-Newsweek Aug 22nd 2007 –
b) “Reflections on 9-11 & Aftermath” Sept 11th 2011
c) “Why America Overreacted to 9-11” – Newsweek Sep 4th-2010
d) “How Russia created its own Islamic Terrorism Problem” Time Jan 27th 2011
e) “Don't Overreact to Terrorism – Newsweek Jan 09th 2010
f) “India Occupying Kashmir” – Rediff June 25th 2001. In a ceremony while receiving India’s third highest civilian award from the Indian Ambassador to the US Mr. Zakaria condemned India for its role in Kashmir terming it “Martial Rule” and castigated India for its perceived illtreatment of Muslims.
f) “India Please Stand up” CNN GPS Mar 26th 2012
2) Where he tries to showcase Muslim radicalism as a direct result of their backwardness & poverty & NOT their radical religious IDEOLOGY (disregarding far more poverty ridden places such as Haiti, Nepal, much of Sub-Saharan Africa), URGING already HARD HIT Americans & Europeans to CONTRIBUTE more, w/o ever mentioning the oil rich Sheikdoms or their own rich people (for e.g. ONLY 1% of Pakistanis pay income taxes-many of whom are far more affluent than average Americans or Europeans who toil more than 3 months a year JUST to pay their taxes!).
a) “What People Will Die For – Newsweek Jan 5th 2008
b) “Put Pakistan (Govt. & Miltary) on Notice” but keep pumping money! – CNN GPS May 13th 2011
c) Plus all of the articles under (1) above.
3) Where he deliberately DOWNPLAYS the threat of radical Islam in the west.
a) “Jihad against the Jihadis- How Moderates WON against extremists” – Newsweek Feb 12th 2010
b) “Learning to Live with Radical Islam” – Newsweek Feb 28th 2009
c) “Congressional Hearings on threats from radical Islam” ABCNews.com Feb 11th 2011
d) “When Terror Loses its Grip-Time May 20th 2011
4) Where he PRETENDS to be concerned about America while CONSTANTLY highlighting the fact that America’s best days are over, and talks about the emergence of other powers. While that may be somewhat true, you can see a definite bias in the coverage, almost WISHING TO SEE OUR DOWNFALL, just as most Muslims the world over want!
a) “Are America’s Best Days Over” Time March 3rd 2011
b) “Beyond Bush” June 11th 2007
c) “The Future of American Power” Foreign Affairs May-June 2008
Sound check
If you offend Islam, there will be protests. But, it needs to be a big insult.
Have five people hold a living man down while a sixth man saws his head off with a bread knife, then kick his head across the room and declare this act to be in the name of Allah and the Prophet Mohamed and post the video online? Well no. You can't go off the handle over little things. After all the man was a westerner.
Draw a cartoon depicting the Prophet Mohamed? That's too much. Millions take to the street.
This was not "a few extremists". There were massive numbers of people who raged in the streets and people were killed over the cartoons. And there were massive numbers of people who stayed home and shrugged their shoulders each time a video hit the internet showing a westerner brutally murdered.
Want to get that "We are reasonable people, not a bunch of extremists" message out? Next time I see mass protests in five countries against an atrocity done in the name of your peaceful religion, I will get the message. Loud and clear.
For now, I do hear the message. It is being whispered by a few, to not offend the extremists. While thousands are screaming that I should die because 1 out of 300,000,000 of my countrymen did something you did not like.
Fareed, you terrorist sympathizing dolt. The Lybian government IS American. We destroyed their government, and replaced it...with us. Of course they are 'on our side'. How dumb can you be man?
More pablum from the CFR plagerist...Folks, the CIA founded Al Qaeda in 1979 in Operation Cyclone - I bet you won't even look it up on Wikipedia!
The US Federal government was tipped off about the attacks days before they happen and did nothing! Why? Because Obama was sleeping or disinterested or going to Vegas? No, no, no, no, no - THESE ATTACKS WERE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN!!!
Why? To drum-up support for wider US involvement in the region, including military action, as Israel seriously considers attacking Iran. Wake up; it's so simple! When you hear Al Qaeda, think Al CIAda!
Thank you Mr. Zakaria ......"And let's be honest, there is a cancer of extremism in the Arab world, one that was diagnosed extensively after 9/11 by many, including me." It took 911 for you to be able to understand that there is a "cancer of extremism in the Arab world". Wow.....a little late to the party but surely congratulatory.
I am sorry Mr. Zakaria your 15 minutes should be up by now. You are a cheat and a plagiarizer. You also don't have much to offer unless your diagnosis, pronounced long after the appearance of the signs and symptoms is an indication of competence.
And please..... why can't CNN find another apologist for violent and criminal behavior?
Karl was right, religion is the opiate of the masses. I thank god every day Im an atheist.
Zakaria, please be a little more obvious that you're an extreme leftist: "There are some good elements – moderates, liberals, pragmatists". Haha. Why do people even read your trash? I only do so that I can expose you to all your dumb liberal followers in here.
What is the point of this garbled article? First, I would note that the facility burned in Benghazi was not the Embassy; it was a consulate. Fareed might want to note that the capital of Libya is Tripoli, not Benghazi.
Second, there is no good news in the stories coming out of the Middle East. The Islamists have won; the people are demanding a return to the 9th century. Women, gays, Jews, Christians, Hindus, atheists, and apostates are all fair game and considered trash. We are watching the meltdown of Obama's (and Fareed's) fantasy world.
Finally I read an article that makes sense, and yet I read people here complaining. Maybe I read it wrong but what this man is saying is that it is a small minority of people doing the demonstrating. Egypt has, what, 80 million pepole and out of those you have a few hundred demonstrating and maybe burning a american flag. So what does our news media show? They show a picture full of people burning an American flag in Egypt. Makes it look like the whole Egypt is burning the american flag. As to Lybia ,the same thing, Most people in Lybia like us. It was a group of terrorists mostly not even from Lybia who carried this well planned attack. Lets not let our newsmedia blind us. Remember our newsmedia likes all this scare tactics because thats what keep us glued to the CNN and FOX cable news. When there are no news people go to watch reruns of FRIENDS, or some cheap show like Conan.
It's just like those Wall Street protestors; it is only a handful of people that make the whole look bad.
The end is near, nations going against nations, THE HOLY WAR
You really make it seem so easy with your presentation but I to find this matter to be actually one thing which I feel I would never understand. It sort of feels too complicated and extremely large for me. I'm taking a look forward in your next publish, I'll try to get the grasp of it!
....Not telling the whole story?
Neither does Fareed!
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How's your Arab spring going now Obama? If we don't get this man out of office we will never recover as a nation.
I fully agree, hopefully it's not too late already.
Such violence and hate speech, threats, terror would never be tolerated if done by Christians. So why the extreme double standard....CNN????
why the muslims living in America are not protesting ,but muslims in other part protesting ? because the American muslims understand the value of free speech,liberty and all these American Ideals better or worried about the strict legal laws against violence? And mostly the Muslim protests are violent everywhere. Even in India,Chennai where we thought the protests will be violence free, stones were thrown on the American Consulate, breaking the windows and security cameras. I think the Wahabism (the violent form) of Islam is spreading from Saudi Arabia Unchecked using Petro dollars. Everybody knows it, but no body preventing it. I think Pakistan is also one of the victims of Wahabism. where generally the people were tolerant till 1980. Now muslims are killing muslims in Paksitan ,saying that other sect is impure.
And finally, Fareed gets his math right, compared to his article, last week, which concluded that Arabs are intolerant. Anyway, later is better than never.
Its all about power. If Iceland made this video it would be a none issue.
Mr. Zacharia, I disagree with your assessment. Yes, it is a small percentage of the whole population that you see on tv protesting against the US, but the majority does not love us either. And remember that it took a few of those to commit the atrocious 9/11 attacks. I don't buy how the media is spinning this story.
Boy you sure have an interesting gauge that can measure love for a spread of silent 1.5 billion humans around the world.
"In Libya, the government is not fomenting Anti-Americanism, it is fighting it, openly declaring America an ally and friend."
What??? You could have fooled me!!!
I thought this author was suspended for plagurism?
After seeing dozens of protest photos, I have to wonder: for people who allegedly hate pork, those Muslims sure do love to have sausage parties.
Dear Mr. Zakaria,
Being a muslim ,I hope you know how dear Prophet Mohamed and Koran to a Muslim.
By Now ( more than 10 Years) all wester countires must be aware that, how muslims are sensitive about thier Prophet and Koran. We revered them. It is not joke .
By Burning Koran, Depicting Prophet Mohammed(PBUH), is a serious matter .Western governments and all liberals and so called Freedom of Speech suportters should have leaned leesseons from all the incidents so far happend in 10 Years. Unfortunately it is deliberately ignored again and again.
You yourself afraid of talking the truth. I thing all freedom of speech supports , will take the abussive offence against your mother, sisters, daughters with the same spirit of . As yourself. First. Will you consider that as freedom of speech ? I will definitely NOT. And hope you too will not wait till the person abuses physically.
Sir ,It is time to do a introspect ,showing fingers to others and finding fault with others is pretty easy.
Innocent life lost due to someonw has freedom of speech and can hurt billions is not right in itself.
Please correct the First mistake . Second will not happen.
Unfortunate , western powers and liberals , yet to lean how to avaoid such conficts. They are just ignoring the facts.
It is not correct to Stop the provocation – instead of supporting provication in the name of freedom of speech.
Again , if "Freedom of Speech" is there , then there should be "Freedom of Reaction"
Accept both......
While the media and liberals refuse to hold Obama responsible for anything, I can't understand why we wasn't protecting our own embassys. Didn't it dawn on anyone i n this administration to up the terror scale during the anniversary of 9/11? You can fight over who is responsible for the rest but our people should have been protected by our own military at the embassy. With the attacks in Afganistan up to this point ,it looks like we should have been on high alert on 9/11. I guess Obama was to busy looking for campaign contributions.I'm sorry, but even during an election year someone should be driving the ship, and looking for icebergs.
Arab Spring is about democratic forms of governments. But they are also about independence. Imperialism happens to be a very old issue. And America is at the crosshair.
Religious issues are more of convenient mules Something for politics to ride on.
Indignations are supposed to be directed against the makers of the anti-Muslim film but as we have seem they are not. I think U.S has a problem with the Arab uderling world.
People, read carefully between the lines – Al Quaida is an extremist terrorist org, the things they say (and they know how to get THEIR messages out to the news, while others can't) are NOT what the vast majority of Muslims think!!! Taliban also – these people will use any excuse to try to get americans against muslims, and therefore cause bad relations where muslims have nowhere to turn. You are being duped if you think what is discussed above is what the average Muslim family person wants or believes, EDUCATE YOURSELVES BEFORE BUYING INTO THE HATE THAT THE NEWS ORGANIZATIONS AND THEIR LIMITED COVERAGE OF REALITY SPUR ON!!! We are being puppets of the News orgs that want to keep you glued to your set watching them, using fear to get you there. Puppets of certain governents that are able to get their voices in the news to keep their people isolated. And that the only voices being shown on TV are extremists (al quaida, the Taliban) and the crazy dictators. Wake up! You are being maniuplated!! From an educated american
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Terrorists. Thats how one side of the world puts`it. But there is a side of the world where people call them nationalists and freedom fighters. And that is the problem.
Why does everyone keep saying this is a small group? They are protesting all over the world. Do some research, its happening in many countries, and growing daily. It isn't just one country that this is happening in. And the movie trailer was just an excuse. This was pre-planned for 9/11. Anyone with any common sense would know that it wasn't a coinsedence that all this happened on 9/11. Are people really that dumb, or are they that scared, to tell the truth?
Oh my Gawd enough with the redneck conspiracy theories. The total number of protesters worldwide couldn't have been more than 10,000 , until that terrorist organization Hizbollah got themselves together in Beirut. But then, Western Liberals love terrorist outfits like Hizbollah.
I have reevaluated the thesis that "less is more" in a political context as applied to India and continue to agree with its premise. Although Mies Van Der Rohe adopted this in an architectural context, its economic and political connotations are indeed powerful. Empowering subjugated minorities in India by splitting it into smaller states would trigger Uber economic demand for western nations who have given so much financial and technological aid to India with no return to show for the investment. Central Asian States (CAS) are a case in point on this successful approach. We need to understand that India has an unmanageable large population mired in poverty and we are spinning our wheels trying to prop it up. Additionally, it is also too big of a geographical unit to govern. Americans now need to focus on its own people. A controlled implosion of India is now the call of the day. God Speed to all.
Damn if it does, damn if it doesnt. I think the less involvement in Arab national affairs by the U.S., the better for it.
Thank you Mr Zakaria for a sober and intellectual assessment of the recent protests, an analysis that is far superior to the one sided rubbish in Newsweek by Ayaan Ali, the exposed serial liar. I guess you can lie to get political asylum in Europe as long as you're a Muslim who hates other Muslims.
Please do not insult Muhammad, the Prophet. I did not write "our" as he is for the whole world. We love him more then anything in this world. I humbly request that you read about him and understand why we feel like that. Maybe one day we can all say, our prophet.
I don't know if you are going to read this or not. YOUR muhammad is dead. Therefore he cannot be insulted. You say that he is the most important thing to you and he is a prophet of God. I would think that God would be the most important thing to you. muhammad was not about the same things as God, muhammad was about muhammad. "Thou shall have NO other Gods before me." Islam has done just that, put muhammad before God.
I will NEVER become a muslim. I would rather die. I can guarantee I will not be the only one.
I believe Fareed is basicly right on the major points. In Turkey where we have a strong government there were only legal and reasonable dissaproval and condamnation to both the film and the resulting violent actions. Our Prime Minister Erdogan was quick to comment and said that both the film and the violant actions are provocations. However, in the past Turkey did suffer her share of clashing ideologies, beliefs, and trouble makers in general and has learned its means and degree to take a stand against it. I believe that will also happen all over the world but Alas! in time.
Heck, in Chicago we have a mob of 30,000 teachers screwing the kids! and the taxpayers! What's the difference? How many of these half million kids will end up on the street and murdered because the Chicago education system is controlled by union imbeciles? Thousands is the likely answer.
"screwing the kids! " can realy end up in a nasty religious connection which I chose not to start. But would like to take the opportunity to remind everyone that there are CROOKED PEOPLE in every nice society.
Man oh man, Time to leave this party. If ever there was a motivation to become energy independent, this is it. I wish it were as simple as leaving and letting the dark ages play out by itself but utopia is just too fleeting..
It is unfortunate that the O'Bama Administration chooses to follow a path of denial VS a path of pro active response to the actual events and situation. But, what is really to be expected of the advisers he has surrounded himself with, who remind me of a yuppie BMW owners club on holiday in Las Vegas. I think they may have read a comic book about the mid-east once. Frankly it is a disgrace and the stories from the State dept, UN Amb, etc should start with "Once upon a time."
One can only but believe their god very weak if they feel obligated to take "revenge" on his behalf. Why does he not fight for himself?
God will take its revenge.
Wondering why some people don't look at the facts; it is only a small fraction of muslims who agree on or follow this type of aggressiveness in dealing with such incidents. In every community there are fanatics and it is shown all over the globe and not only by muslims.
Just goes to show, it's a two-way street. Think about it. Some dumb rube in America makes a cheap Youtube movie condemning Islam, and all of a sudden a small group of Muslims automatically think that said film is representative of all Westerners beliefs. Meanwhile, the less intelligent among Westerners see the violent reaction by the less intelligent in the Middle East, and assume all Muslims behave that way.
At the end of the day, it's stupid people reacting stupidly to the actions of other stupid people on both sides.
Refering to the freedom of speech FAREED. Here is an example on how inconsiderate it can get on a person doing his job. People exposed to public such as you get more of it. Do keep in mind that there are those of us who respect you and will be beside you. A refference from the Potter books...:) When Hagrid was under trial....Dumbledoor said to Hagrid something like: being globaly popular was impossible. But GPS eventually educate and help even the most hopeless cases.
Only if they learn to sit at the same TABLE and have an acceptable MANNER. Keep on. I love GPS.
So when it's tens of thousands out of millions in the Middle East, it's insignificant in the eyes of the narrative molders of the "western media". When it's tens of thousands of protestors in Moscow out of a country of 142 million, the Putin government is on the verge of collapse. Ahh, the vaunted "free media", a foundational myth of global elite.
Good article, Fareed. But no article about Isla mist extre mism is complete without the big elephant in the room – Sha ria law.
As you know, Sha ria law openly discriminates against non-Musl ims, to the point of even denying the very right to life if a person commits the "cri mes" of leaving Isl am, converting a Mus lim, or even not conforming to Isl am.
It is hostile to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Islamists, the proponents of Sha ria law, share the very same goals as Jiha dists – the subjugation of all non-Mus lims under Sha ria law and the abolition of religious freedom. They only differ in the goals.
I firmly believe that good Musl ims can be made to realize that the God they pray to five times a day is a Just God, and therefore He is opposed to the blatantly unjust and bigo ted Sha ria law. They can be convinced to protect secularism and the freedom of religion.
There already are good Musl ims fighting this fight for the heart of Isl am. If any good Musli ms are reading this, I'd like to encourage them to google "The American Isla mic Forum for Democracy" and sign up.
Sorry for breaking my post up... the strange filter is censoring the word a n t i t h e s i s , for some reason!!!
It's very annoying to write a completely clean and non-offensive post to have the filters censor common words like "grass" and "potatoe".
Time to put Mohammad back in his bear costume for another cameo on South Park!!
Did you have a nice suspension, Fareed? Be glad you still have a job!!
Good article, Fareed. But no article about Islamist extremism is complete without the big elephant in the room – Sharia law.
As you know, Sha ria law openly discriminates against non-Musl ims, to the point of even denying the very right to life if a person commits the "cri mes" of leaving Isl am, converting a Mus lim, or even not conforming to Isl am.
It is hostile to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Islamists, the proponents of Sharia law, share the very same goals as Jihadists – the subjugation of all non-Muslims under Sharia law and the abolition of religious freedom. They only differ in the goals.
I firmly believe that good Muslims can be made to realize that the God they pray to five times a day is a Just God, and therefore He is opposed to the blatantly unjust and bigo ted Sha ria law. They can be convinced to protect secularism, the freedom of religion and the rejection of dicrimination against non-Muslims.
There already are good Muslims fighting this fight for the heart of Islam. If any good Muslims are reading this, I'd like to encourage them to google "The American Isla mic Forum for Democracy" and sign up.
You may already know this, but just to be sure, most Muslims in the Middle East are NOT "Islamists". Islamists are not unlike the most extreme of the fundamentalist Christian fringe...i.e., they are not representative of the typical proponents of their religion. A lot of people assume "Islamist" just means Muslim, but it's descriptive of a small, but vocal, radical subset.
Here are a few things that islamists believe:
Quran (3:56) – "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) – "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
Quran (4:74) – "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) – "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (4:89) – "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Here are a few things that islamists believe:
Quran (3:56) – "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) – "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
Quran (4:74) – "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) – "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (4:89) – "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Zakaria is right. The reaction from the extremist right is scary: they can't stand that things AREN'T worse.
You obviously don't know much about Christianity. There have NO, 0, zip, nada protests by Christians because of someone insulting the religion, Christ, God or the believers. All these insults have gone on and worse, but still no violent protests. You are welcome to your ignorance, just leave Christians alone.
Troll land ignored. ROGER THAT?
Fareed,
Are you a Muslim? Really? You still see it a difference b/w modernism and radicalism? Shame on you....I cant say any more.
You just cannot handle the fact that some, some very few muslims do see the difference.
You would love to keep everybody ignorant and foolish.
Too bad for you!
Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
just like the vivid protest didn't tell the whole story of the "Arab Spring". Now we witness the beginning of the “Arab Fall”. The military strongmen are gone. American leadership and support for liberty is lacking. The vacuum is wide open for radicals and extremist whom have only succeeded in the Muslim world politically. The "cancer" of extremism was always there, before 9/11 and now. It is paradoxical that free societies have to tolerate extremist which do not tolerate real liberty. They simply can’t coexist in one state. It is time to choose. Defend liberty, and the spring will last forever. Defend extremism and the Arab Fall will turn into a dark Winter, (hopefully not a nuclear one)
“A hopeful future is within reach of every Egyptian citizen - and every man and woman in the Middle East. The choice is yours to make. But you are not alone. All free nations are your allies. So together, let us choose liberty and democracy - for our nations, for our children, and for our future.” Sec. State Rice, June 20, 2005, Cairo, Egypt.
That Sec. Rice was in the loop that started U.S. attack and occupation of Iraq at a cost of more than 100,000 Iraqi lives and damaged our reputation in the Arab world and now you would like to quote her in search of solutions. No thanks. And guess who are foreign affair advisors to the potential president candidate Mr. Romney. Yes, the same ones who adviced GW Bush. That makes Mr. Romney a danger to our national interests. You are not going to help balance the budget with reckless military power.
Blaming the making of a video that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad as a excuse to do this harm is ridiculous by civil standards. This is an example of irrational religious ideology. Many people in the radical Islamic countries reside in something like European Dark Ages and need to be enlightened with access to outside sources of information. Such ignorance can be easily exploited by Al Qaeda extremism.
As Thomas Friedman has repeatedly said Islam needs modernity.
Growing up in the strict Islamic countries has much community pressure forcing people not question the religious leaders and leads to inhumane actions such as this. Outspoken critics are silenced by threats of violence. Some are then ripe for extremists to incite them to violence and in this case Al Qaeda may be in that role.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali writes about this from the point of view of growing up in Somali, escaping an unranged marriage, becoming a member of Danish parliament and then arriving in the U.S. She describes her history of each location in her books "Infidel" and "Nomad". The strict Islamic societies heavily employ the threat of a painful eternity if people don't conform to what the interpreters of the Quran tell them.
The threat of eternal hell after one is dead is the greatest and longest living hoax in history.
civil means with in limit and your hinduism is nothing but your hinduism absurdity out side the limit of truth absolute, civility. hindu, ignorant.
Radical Islamic communities don't like to hear people being critical of their religion and therefore can retain whatever elements that are incorrect or even harmful to people. The imams have too much control over the people. Sometimes this leads to women and girls having less rights than males resulting in suppression in their lives. Free inquiry is the best way to sort out what is beneficial and what is harmful to human lives.
The access to more democratic and less dictators removes the secular suppression that works in conjunction with the religious authorities holds the prospect of a more enlightened society in time.
You said "Sometimes this leads to women and girls having less rights than males resulting in suppression in their lives."
You must be joking, their women never ever have any rights.
Only by hinduism, ignorance of a hindu, ignorant, Women have all the rights, a woman deserves as a female, Every man is raised by a woman, so are Muslim men by a honorable Muslim woman. A hindu ignorant woman teaches nothing but hinduism, greed of her hindu soul, filthy desire to her chils just like you, a hindu blinded with her hinduism, ignorance.
Why is anybody impressed by this? Lets face it, folks... If we count body-bags, here, the US has the upper hand in this argument by a long shot...Shock and awe, baby... A decade in, and we have itty-bitty remote planes that sound like lawn mowers that blow up cars full of people... even in countries we are "friends" with. You can be put on the elimination list just for being famous and publicly speaking against the US. Go figure, the enemy is acting like an enemy...That's because they are our enemy and have been for a long time... There is no winning "hears and minds" here...There is no training local armies to support us....we are at war. we can stay or we can leave... Personally, I wish we'd leave but there is too much money being made...so....Onward Christian soldiers!
any government that is the result of raw unfettered violence will take quite some time to learn peaceful ways of governance,as the potential of chaos looms heavily in the immediate future
Hinduism is a disgusting cult. Even to this day cross-cousin, father-daughter, mother-son, brother-sister, doing each other is common practice. Let me make it easy for you and refer you to the hindu scriptures and share it with the world. Shame on Hindus and barbaric Hinduism.
Pushan is the lover of his sister [ Rg Ved VI.55.4 ][ Apte 11 ]
The Ashvisns married Surya and Savitri who is their sister [ RV I.116.19 ].
Agni is the son of his father and his sister [ Rg Ved.I.91.7 ]
This is totally false and RigVeda does not permit incest. To say that these practices are common in Hindus is a blatant lie. Perverts exist in all societies.
Hindu is a sanatan dharma, it was not founded by any human or a messenger or some prophet. whole mankind has a single father, Manu, who created us. Only Hinduism and teachings of Bhagva Gita can help us survive the Kali Yuga (Dark Age).
Arundhati Roy is a communist and a paid writer for Pakistan's ISI. Many well known Indian writers, columnists who write in support of Muslims are paid writers of ISI. This came to light when a Kashmiri separatist , Gulam Nabi Phai was arrested last year. Why she doesn't speak against the Kashmiri Muslims who kicked out 500,000 Kashmiri Hindus who are living as migrants in their own country. Hindus are in minority in Kashmir and Muslims are fighiting to make Kashmir a part of Pakistan.
Its disgusting to see so much hatred against peaceful Hindu religion and India.
It is no secret that Hitler and his Nazi cronies sought inspiration from Indian extremist groups including the branding of his Nazi Party by adopting the Swastika, a traditionally Hindu symbol and representation of Hindu god Ganesha, as its marketing tool. The thesis being that like the Norwegian massacre the Jewish holocaust orchestrated by Hitler was inspired by the inherently violent cult of Indian Hindus and the manifesto of its then extremist/terrorist groups still in existence today. These groups are now the successors to and carrying out the vision of Al Qaeda all over the world albeit in a clandestine manner.
Hitler's Swastika sign is totally reverse of Swastika sign that Hindus use. Our Swastika sign is a symbol of happiness, prosperity. You will find this sign on the entrance door of every single Hindu home.What Hitler used was a totally reversed shape of our sign which means death and destruction. How can you associate two separate , opposing themes ? If Hitler misused a symbol from Hinduism, how can you hold Hindsuim responsible for that ?Are you trying to spread hatred about Hindusim and Hindus in general ?
Zakaria, you need to challenge the ambassador's of Egypt because Egyptian TV commonly airs derogatory attacks directed at Jews and Christians and require an answer on why it ok to publicly attack other Religions but not Islam
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Muslims are jealous of what we have in this country and they hate us for what we have in this country. They will pretend to be friends but will stab you in the back at the first opportunity.
How one can claim such hinduism, absurdity, no one is hatesinduism, USA for what thsy have, but hinduism, terrorism of hindu terrorist government of USA, deserving nothing but same to rectify hinduism, terrorism against Muslim's and Islam. Why this carnage, why west is persistent on hindu Judaism, criminal self center ism ? please visit http://www.limitisthetruth.com/ and click on word Choice to open file, to learn true causes of mayhem among humanity,
...nuke'um... and let someone's god sort it all out.....
I see that a lot of you are talking about " herd mentality" Just because a large group of people come together in one place and in one collective voice express the same opinion, it doesn't mean that they are not thinking for themselves. More credit should be given to people who do so. They did not simply wander down the street, and get tractor -beamed into an ever growing crowd , shrug their shoulders and take up the calls and shouts of the people around them. These people have made a decision based on their own experiences and what seems logical and true and right with facts and knowledge that they have been provided and sought out themselves. That they choose to seek out others of the same opinion and take the time and energy to speak against what they feel is wrong is a sign of determination and commitment.. Meaning they will not sit helpless and silent as the issues that are important to them are glossed over or ignored. How many of us have wanted to express concern for something that our leaders are clearly getting wrong? How many of us as individuals can just walk up to or get on the phone an elected official to express our concern? Virtually no one. So how will they hear us, unless we pool our voices and shout as one?
God punishes all those who tries to mock his messengers.People will see the end of those who mock his beloved ones.
Unless the Kashmir and Palestine problems are solved there will be no peace on earth. This is no rocket science and you can take it to the bank.
Chris Stevens was killed along with few other embassy employees... These people are innocent...aren't we supposed to be focussing on this wrongdoing more?
MEMRI
August 27, 2012
Special Dispatch No.4914
Egyptian Cleric Safwat Higazi: 'One Of The Tenets Of The Muslim Brotherhood… Is The Islamic Caliphate And The Ruling Of The World… The Day Will Come When We Will Be The Masters Of The World'
In a recent TV interview, Egyptian cleric Safwat Higazi said that while "the first choice of the Muslims is peace," they "welcome war" as a means of liberating Palestine and restoring the "United States of the Arabs." During the interview, which aired on the Egyptian Al-Kahera Wal-Nas TV on August 14, 2012, Higazi expressed his hope that the Islamic Caliphate would be restored, saying: "The day will come when we will be the masters of the world."
Following are excerpts:
We Welcome War As A Means To Restore The United States Of The Arabs
Interviewer: "In the era of the Muslim Brotherhood – or the era of the Islamic movements – will new fronts be opened against Israel – including an Egyptian front – in order to make Jerusalem the capital of the 'United States of the Arabs'?"
Safwat Higazi: "Liberating Palestine and restoring the United States of the Arabs does not necessarily have to be done through weapons or war. We Muslims are not warmongers. We seek peace. We want to get what is rightfully ours."
Interviewer: "How can you get 'what is rightfully yours' from a country like Israel without war?"
Safwat Higazi: "I did not say that I would take what is mine through peaceful means. I said that this is my first choice. The first choice of the Muslims is peace. If not through peace, there is nothing preventing war. We welcome war."
Interviewer: "How can a peace-seeking Muslim like you issue a fatwa stating that anyone who sees an Israeli on the street must kill him?"
Safwat Higazi: "If that Zionist is fighting me, occupying my country, and killing people who are my brothers in country, religion, and humanity – then it's an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and whoever started it is to blame."
Peace Came Through 1973 War, Not Camp David Accords
Interviewer: "What ever happened to peace-seeking?"
Safwat Higazi: "We extended our hand in peace, but it was rejected. What else is left to do?"
Interviewer: "When did you offer peace?"
Safwat Higazi: "Did Egypt not offer peace throughout all these years?"
Interviewer: "Are you for or against the Camp David Accords?"
Safwat Higazi: "I am against them."
Interviewer: "Then you are against peace."
Safwat Higazi: "Absolutely not. This equation is completely wrong."
Interviewer: "Was it not the Camp David Accords that brought peace?"
Safwat Higazi: "This equation is wrong..."
Interviewer: "Please, just answer my question. Was it not the Camp David Accords that brought peace to Egypt?"
Safwat Higazi: "Absolutely not. It was the 1973 war that brought peace. If not for the Egyptian victory in that war, there would be no peace. How come there was no peace before the 1973 war?"
Interviewer: "How did peace come about?"
Safwat Higazi: "Through the Egyptian victory in the war."
Interviewer: "Through what means?"
Safwat Higazi: "Peace came through the 1973 war. With the crossing of the Suez Canal, we crossed into peace. Had we not crossed the Canal, there would have been no peace." [...]
"The Day Will Come When We Will Be The Masters Of The World"
"One of the tenets of the Muslim Brotherhood, which they cannot renounce, is the Islamic Caliphate and the ruling of the world. Yes. The day will come when we will be the masters of the world." [...]
MEMRI
August 27, 2012
Special Dispatch No.4914
Egyptian Cleric Safwat Higazi: 'One Of The Tenets Of The Muslim Brotherhood… Is The Islamic Caliphate And The Ruling Of The World… The Day Will Come When We Will Be The Masters Of The World'
In a recent TV interview, Egyptian cleric Safwat Higazi said that while "the first choice of the Muslims is peace," they "welcome war" as a means of liberating Palestine and restoring the "United States of the Arabs." During the interview, which aired on the Egyptian Al-Kahera Wal-Nas TV on August 14, 2012, Higazi expressed his hope that the Islamic Caliphate would be restored, saying: "The day will come when we will be the masters of the world."
Following are excerpts:
We Welcome War As A Means To Restore The United States Of The Arabs
Interviewer: "In the era of the Muslim Brotherhood – or the era of the Islamic movements – will new fronts be opened against Israel – including an Egyptian front – in order to make Jerusalem the capital of the 'United States of the Arabs'?"
Safwat Higazi: "Liberating Palestine and restoring the United States of the Arabs does not necessarily have to be done through weapons or war. We Muslims are not warmongers. We seek peace. We want to get what is rightfully ours."
Interviewer: "How can you get 'what is rightfully yours' from a country like Israel without war?"
Safwat Higazi: "I did not say that I would take what is mine through peaceful means. I said that this is my first choice. The first choice of the Muslims is peace. If not through peace, there is nothing preventing war. We welcome war."
Interviewer: "How can a peace-seeking Muslim like you issue a fatwa stating that anyone who sees an Israeli on the street must kill him?"
Safwat Higazi: "If that Zionist is fighting me, occupying my country, and killing people who are my brothers in country, religion, and humanity – then it's an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and whoever started it is to blame."
Peace Came Through 1973 War, Not Camp David Accords
Interviewer: "What ever happened to peace-seeking?"
Safwat Higazi: "We extended our hand in peace, but it was rejected. What else is left to do?"
Interviewer: "When did you offer peace?"
Safwat Higazi: "Did Egypt not offer peace throughout all these years?"
Interviewer: "Are you for or against the Camp David Accords?"
Safwat Higazi: "I am against them."
Interviewer: "Then you are against peace."
Safwat Higazi: "Absolutely not. This equation is completely wrong."
Interviewer: "Was it not the Camp David Accords that brought peace?"
Safwat Higazi: "This equation is wrong..."
Interviewer: "Please, just answer my question. Was it not the Camp David Accords that brought peace to Egypt?"
Safwat Higazi: "Absolutely not. It was the 1973 war that brought peace. If not for the Egyptian victory in that war, there would be no peace. How come there was no peace before the 1973 war?"
Interviewer: "How did peace come about?"
Safwat Higazi: "Through the Egyptian victory in the war."
Interviewer: "Through what means?"
Safwat Higazi: "Peace came through the 1973 war. With the crossing of the Suez Canal, we crossed into peace. Had we not crossed the Canal, there would have been no peace." [...]
"The Day Will Come When We Will Be The Masters Of The World"
"One of the tenets of the Muslim Brotherhood, which they cannot renounce, is the Islamic Caliphate and the ruling of the world. Yes. The day will come when we will be the masters of the world." [...]
Good job Bwuce.
So much said and done, i won't comment what is write and what is not...............but what i feel is that after so many incidents everyone knows that muslims have a great respect for Muhammad. making his cartoons, movies etc hurt their religious belief. So why these film makers, catoonist and other people just spare one person and USE THIS FREEDOM OF SPEECH by making fun or disgracing any one of the 2 billion muslims around the world. Muhammad was a great personality and placed first in "The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History" by Michael H. Hart.
So freedom of speech and delibrate attempt to hurt people's emotions is not same thing
Obama and the left, meaning Mr Zakaria in this case are really trying to tell us this isn't like Jimmy Carter and Iran 1979? Funny, we've had the first Ambassador murdered since under Jimmy Carter, in 1979, or Embassies and Consulates have been sacked, and the Black Flag of Al Qaeda has flown over our Embassy in Egypt and Tunisia. The Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, and other assorted fruit cake zealots like Hizbollah, Hamas, and others are in control or poised to take control everywhere. We have a hopeless, hapless President, who is still lying to us about what Happened in Libya, when we all now the facts now! We all know now it was a pre-planned attack, about which we had warning, and that our Embassies and Consulates were poorly prepared, and poorly defended. Of course, this time round they didn't take hostages. They just murdered 4 Americans. Hardly and improvement in my mind. And Jimmy Carter at least achieved the Peace Treaty between Egypt and Israel. Obama's foreing policy has put the Muslim Brotherhood in control of the largest and most important Arab country, and it looks very much like Obama may well succed in the nullification of ath Peace Treaty by Egypt. Mr Zakaria is right about one thing. Its not the same as Jimmy Carter and Iran in 1979. Its a whole lot WORSE!
How old were you, Mr. Zakaria in 1979, to judge those events? Ten, fifteen? Nonetheless, your understanding of the reality is at about the same level as then, or probably even worse because children have a certain intuition which gets lost with age.
One thing I may have missed here is I have not seen anyone talking about America getting out of the middle east completely. Are we / the United States that vested in the middle east. Is oil or money, the driving force beind its envolvement? My opinion is we cut them off completely.
The result of too much freedom on speech/publication/movie given to people – created social issue, hate and terror. Should the world of government control the level of freedom to secure and safeguard the hormony and peace on earth? As today's world communication/internet becomes globalisation, should government limit the freedom in term of sensitivity of social concern that will impact the global peace? World leaders should act proactively to prevent further hate crime or terror to be happened. We are no longer living in an island of one man. We should be more sensitive on the impact of freedom causing the world's problem. We can have the freedom but not over the limit.
Obama's incessant extrajudicial drone assassinations have killed hundreds of innocents across the middle east. To his victims, Obama is a hypocrite who spouts democracy but kills their women & children. And we wonder why they continue to hate us?
Fareed is an admitted plagiarist, who cares what he thinks? How can CNN call itself "the most trusted name in news" while employing a plagiarist???
As to the mob protests... are these the "moderate" muslims protesting or the "terrorist" muslims? If they are the terrorist, who cares why they are protesting? If these are the "moderate" muslims, why are we trying to make peace with them?
Long term solution against Islamic violence & irrationality is a MASSIVE CONVERSION OF MUSLIMS TO CHRISTIANITY, preferably to any Middle Eastern Christian Church which share the same language, culture and traditions as Muslims but NOT their SATANIC Islamic faith.
Mr Fareed it seems plagiarism charges against to you made you insane you have started to write one sided stories you were neutral most of the time in your business could u please tell me why anti semitism is a crime and anti islamic is freedom of speech
For a Muslim who prays five times a day his religion and faith occupy the deepest place his heart. These are the most important moral and religious values in his life much more precious than anything on earth, even much bigger than the values of freedom of speech and expression. Unfortunately, some of us fail to understand the values of others are as important as ours. As much as we defend and cherish our freedom of speech and expression rights, we need to understand the responsibility that goes with it. We need to say no to those who use freedom of speech to spread hater.
What bothers me most about these so called 'isolated extremist attacks' is the lack of public outcry from the mainstream Muslims who live here. Never heard them spontaneously denounce this level of violence and Anti American sentiment. Yet on issues which directly affect their 'turf', eg: the proposed mosque near the 9/11 site in NYC, they are all over the media singing the praises of their peaceful faith and crying over the world's distorted view of their religion.
I just watched a very interesting program by Bill Moyers on Super Pacs and disclosure. Apparently it is possible for foreign interests to contribute to whichever super pac that supports the candidate they feel will best represent their wishes and no disclosure required. In the case of Israel that would be Mitt Romney and the Neo-Cons who are merely laying in wait for their next puppet. Imaging Israel deciding when the USA will enter into a nuclear confrontation with Iran effectively offering up America's blood and treasure on Israel's behalf... I laugh at the motto so often spouted "America, Greatest democracy on earth..." you mean the greatest democracy money can buy...thanks to the supreme court. The greatest democarcy money can buy. Watch for Bibi Netanyohoo's add to come out in Florida...
Fareed is a plagiarist and a Liar. Why is he still on CNN??? CNN is no longer the most trusted name in news because of Fareed Zakaria!
Yeah sure Fareed. They really love us. Now isn't it time to stop covering for obama and start telling the truth?
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Fareed – with due respect, you made a mistake. It was not an Embassy burning in Benghazi, but a consulate building. You are kind of playing into the misinformation by suggesting that the Embassy was stormed.
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