As outrage over a video that characterizes the Prophet Mohammed as a womanizing buffoon spread across Muslim countries, details emerged about the killings of a U.S. ambassador and three others this week at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.
So, what's next? Fareed Zakaria weighs in on extremism and freedom of speech, why a President Obama apology would be absurd and the future of the U.S.-Egypt relationship in this edited conversation:
Q: Russia's Vladimir Putin is quoted as warning that the Arab world could descend into "chaos." Is that fear is overblown?
ZAKARIA: I think it is overblown. I think what you have here is one of these periodic crises that take place.
You will remember there have been these around the Koran burning and around the Danish cartoons, and they're all signs of a fundamental problem within Arab societies, a fundamental lack of tolerance and an extremism.
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But they have never really descended in that form because, just remember, you're talking about a few hundred people, here and there.
There may be a few places where it's worse and remember the crucial difference in the place like Libya is that the government is entirely on the side of the United States. It's trying to battle these extremists.
So, what you're dealing with is a certain degree of extremism in these societies and weak governance in many of these countries. That's different from a kind of grand revolution.
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Q: Not downplaying the deaths and the violence, but do you think too much is being made of this when you listen to people yelling on the streets saying President Obama should apologize to the world and to the Muslim world for this?
ZAKARIA: Here's how I put it. I think clearly we live in a world in which the images can go viral. Protests can go viral. These things become global very quickly and a kind of feeding frenzy develops, both on the ground and in the media.
I think that that has to be separated from the real issue, and the real issue is a level of extremism in some Arab and Muslim societies that is worrisome. But let's not exaggerate it. Let's not also turn this into a problem of all of Egypt or all of Libya when we're dealing with some isolated groups that have been jockeying for power in various ways.
And, as for President Obama needing to apologize, I think it's absurd. It's ludicrous. I think what we are all waiting to hear is a proper apology from Egyptian President Mohamed Morsy, who is the one figure in all of this that has been most disappointing.
The Egyptian government has not provided the protection the United States needs. It has not reacted to the violence in the way that it should, let alone the fact that Egypt gets a lot of aid from the United States [$2 billion a year] ...
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It's very different from Libya. The Libyan government is actively on our side trying to ferret out these extremists, catch them, capture them, kill them.
In the Egyptian case, one has to ask, are they actually encouraging a certain degree of extremism?
Q: When we hear demonstrators make comments about the president apologizing and this is an insult to Muslims the world over - what aren't they understanding about the U.S. and what isn't the U.S. understanding about them? Many in the U.S. think it's absurd that a terrible, small movie that no one had seen has caused such violence.
ZAKARIA: Well, I think it's fair to say that there is a kind of extremism and a lack of kind of an understanding of freedom of speech and opinion.
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The person who made this movie is crude, is bigoted and is a buffoon, but in the United States of America, we do not shut down or jail people who are crude and vulgar and bigoted.
They have to do something that harms people physically. People's freedom of speech, even to say offensive things, is protected. They don't get that to a certain extent, particularly relating to religious issues.
Remember Salman Rushdie, the novelist? He went through this whole period of a fatwa and things like that, precisely because people could not understand that he was exercising his freedom of speech to write a book that was regarded by many Muslims as offensive.
What we don't understand about them, I think, is that this does affect a kind of core sense of their dignity and it affects their sense of whether or not we respect them.
But I think at the end of the day, the West is in the right here. The United States is in the right. It is entirely inappropriate under any circumstances to use violence as a response to freedom of speech.
The way you counter bad speech is with good speech. Let them make a great movie about Prophet Mohammed. That's the way you do it, not by killing people, not by burning people.
Q: We talked about the amount of money in U.S. aid to Egypt. Obama is going to ask Congress to forgive about a billion dollars in debt that Egypt owes Washington. Do you think that these anti-American protesters are even aware of that?
ZAKARIA: I think they're very ill-informed. I think they know very little, but I think that the government of Egypt knows this. I would hope that we're having serious conversations with the government of Egypt and making clear to them that unless their attitude is much more cooperative and much more responsible, it will be very difficult to forgive any of Egypt's debt and, going forward, it would mean a very different relationship.
Egypt is going to have to come to terms with its own internal dimensions. There is a contest between the Islamists, the Muslim Brotherhood that is in power, and even more radical and extreme groups, which is why the president is clearly trying to curry favor with some of these groups by not condemning the violence more strongly.
But Morsy will have to choose. Does he want to be president of Egypt or does he want to be an Islamic leader of the rabble, of the mob?
And his relationship and the country's relationship with the United States will depend on that, and, more broadly, the ability of these countries to chart a moderate, mainstream, modern course is going to be powerfully affected by these kinds of choices. This is what they have to decide.
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It reveals that Towel Heads IS what Towel Heads DO.
Racism is what racists do as well.
Towel Heads isn't a racist statement. It's a religious statement. Hahahahahahahah
But they really do wear Towels.... on their heads.
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Actually it is neither a racist nor a political statement – it is a fashion statement, and fashion statements are not particularly enlightening on pertinent to this topic.
America is the best, that is why they come here. The ones who can't act like that due to lack of education. One person make a film and DEATH TO AMERICA they chant. How about one of them is a terrorist so kill them all (whether inside or outside our border) and let GOD sort them out. We should pull all americans out of these low life country and offer then no aid and buy no oil. Then they can go back to living thier junk brokedown way of life.
Indeed Morsi's behaviour was highly disappointing. He had chosen to grovel before the demonstrators and let them take it out on the US. This would make him popular among his fellow citizens and they could forget their grievances for a short while. No doubt some evil forces in the region want this hostility to last for a while and add more fuel to the fire.
Towel Heads writes: "It reveals that Towel Heads IS what Towel Heads DO".
Pearls before swine, Fareed. Seems like you are way over the heads of a lot of the American population, who-at times-seem as ill-informed and primal as the Islamic radicals.
The biggest enemy of mankind are intolerance and ignorance. So many of us choose to be prisoners of our own bigotry and self-righteousness.
Glad it's happening now so the European countries can adjust their emigration policies until it's not too late, and their immigrant scarved clans turn us back to the Dark Ages!
It's sad that people can't put things into context. People slander who I believe in all the time, it's just opinion and you need to be bigger than that person. Any decent person who would be a part of riots and kill people over some stupids words given by an individual needs to look deep inside themselves. That is the actions of the weak minded.
This movie was just the Straw that broke the Camel's back.
I'm glad their attacks made us all learn more about their prophet, his morality, and how they are fed "explanations" that he wasn't immoral. Now it makes sense to me how the regular Muslim can buy into this nonsensical, primitive anti-American hate.
Isreal will settle this.
Prophet mohammad is an idiot and a pervert
Atheus ; Theres nothing racist about calling a muslim a towel head. muslims are not a race. They are of the Islamic religion. But of course I don't expect that to matter to anyone that is so ignorant that all they know is the race card..
They wear those"towels" to try to keep the lice from spreading.
Thank-you Atheus, you are a breath of fresh air.
On the other hand, many of the rest of you are no better than the mob in Cairo. Think and be reasonable.
'America is the best' : "We should pull all americans out of these low life country [1] and offer then no aid [2] and buy no oil [3]. Then they can go back to living thier junk brokedown way of life [4]."
Skipping 1, 2 & 4, If we buy no oil [3], we will run out of oil in about 30 years, which is too soon to replace it with Nuclear, Wind, Hydro, & Solar.
If we change to Coal, the pollution will get much worse & we will run out anyway.
Another way is to conserve, drive much less, and use much less heat, light & electronics. I think it will put us into what you call "to living thier junk brokedown way of life".
just like Reverend Wright! and the democratic KKK
Atheus–
While towelhead is a pointless name, at the same time calling non Muslims INFIDELS is also pointless, Muslim is not a race.
Here are what many Libyans think: "Thugs and killers don't represent Benghazi nor Islam" "Sorry, people of America, this is not the behaviour of our Islam or Prophet" http://tweepforum.ly/news/15-photos-of-libyans-apologizing-to-americans/ Wake up, people, generalizations that a small group of people (protestors, killers, or movie-makers) represent every Muslim, or North American, is adding to the problem.
The Coptic Christians in the Middle East would have to bear the brunt of the idiocy of these two imbeciles – Joseph Nassralla Abdelmasih and Nakoula Basseley Nakoula – one day. Momentarily the Americans are the scape-goats for these violent demonstrations. Soon it would be their turn!
GUTTER RELIGION, GUTTER PEOPLE if it wasnt for oil, we wouldnt even give them the time of day
It's plain to see in your eyes, they are right and we are wrong. These attacks are happening around the world. What it shows us is that they are animals.
I don't believe that. With celll phones, tv and computers, they still can't be that much in the dark about us. Their lealders at least know about our rights and not needing the govt. to do something like make a film.
Really? This is the most intelligent comment you can come up with?
This is the reasons why things don't get better. You return insult with insult and the cycle continues and escalates.
Evolve, please.
What an ignorant statement. Those are not towels, they are small sheets. If you want to get it right, you should call them lsheet-heads..
You are right, Islam is guilty of doing racism well as well.
Exactly.
When Islamic terrorists terrorize, it doesn't represent Islam.
But when few Americans make a movie, it reflects the whole US and the president has to apologize?????
You obviously didn't read the article either. People in these nations think that any films produced have to be ok'd by the government because that is what they are used to having been raised in an oppresive government. By their way of thinking the US government must have ok'd the film, so the US is at fault. They don't understand what our freedom of speech truly means. Granted, that is no excuse for the violence, but what do you expect when they are ruled by extremists?
From what I've read, many news outlets in the middle east reported that it was a movie sponsored by the US and shown with regularity on television. More than likely these news outlets are: a) terribly misinformed, or b) have their own agendas (much like Fox news in the US).
Who knows if it was Americans, maybe it was Australians, or Canadians. These people do not even know who they are protesting against.
I agree with Atheus!
And the sad thing is that it wasn't even an American who made the movie, it has come to light that it was an Egyptian who made the move!
hah bologna
Well said. And I agree.. Islam is for fools.
Animals, all of them. I am tired of our president and staff making excuses. for them and their behavior. Like Carney saying this is not a protest against America.... really? then why are only US flags being burned, and posters that say Death to America being carried? What do Hillary and BO think these terrorists woudl do to them if the had them? serve them tea?
They dont think the goverment authorized the movie that is just stupid. All they need is a couple words to set off their simple little minds. they hear america and muhamed bashing and they plan their next gathering to kill someone. everytime they do this, they cry out how their is no god except ala and the prophet muhamed so we know its all about their religious belief to kill those who do not believe in their god. they are extremists of a religion that promotes killing anyone who is not a muslim.
The guy who produced & flimed the movie ISN'T AMERICAN. He's an Isreali-Egyptian who was claiming to be an Isreali-American. But damn if this is what these fanatical freaks do if someone makes a movie about their "prophet" in a negative light just imagine what they might if the Dome of the Rock was burnt down, knocked down, DESTROYED, LOL or if it accidentily collapsed I bet the Muslims would think some American Secret Agent like 007 must've done it. Hahahahaha!!!!!
Well said...
storrey What is the agenda of FOX News?
More than likely you are a) terribly misinformed, or b) have your own agenda.
I well remember the Iranian revolution in 1979 & followed it closely at the time, as well as having read innumerable books about the over-throw of the Shah since then. Obama truly is Jimmy Carter on steroids!
Muslim people understand more about america than you think. They know what they are doing isnt just about the movie. That just how they are...animals. They should be treated as such
Does anyone else see the patterns here? Was Nostradamus right once again? WW3 is more likely to happen than not. Didn't Nostradamus mention that it will be a war started by religion?
If Obama gets down and grovels for an appology, it will show the rest of the world what cowards we have who run our country. I for one will NEVER, cower to appologize to Muslims for what they did and are still doing, and if they try to attack me here in America, I will inflict great injury on those who try to take away my freedoms my forefathers fought and died for. How pathetic America has fallen to fear these extremists. I am not condoning what was done to smear Islam, but the killing of innocent people due to this smear is barbaric. These extremists should not be allowed to participate in the modern world anymore as welll as those who support them. We should leave these countries and refuse to do anything with them, and if they still harm us, we should attack and level them permantely, with no rebuilding of the rubble inflicted. Islam only respects courage, strength, and POWER. WE must show these extremists and countires that we follow thorugh when harmed with grave consequences, no exceptions. is Obama trying to negotiate with terrorists?
storrey: If you think Fox has an agenda, how about ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, PBS, CNN, the former MSNBC, and current?
@Atheus: Ignorance does not make what they did right. They are so tied up in their supposedly "only religion" in the world, they don't care if the learn anything. They can't seem to think outside of their box, or willingness to learn. Guess what, radicals? This world isn't just about YOU.
Apparently the Muslims have their own version of Fox News for misinformation.
It is interesting that the news media there is reporting that it was shown on TV to the US people. Quite frankly, I think their reactions have probably proven the point the makers of the film wanted to make in the first place. Have I seen the film? No, I won't waste 20 minutes of my life caring about it. But, you have to admit, for a religion that says they are not about hatred, they sure don't act that way. Last week it was planting evidence on children so that the state would kill them. Now it is killing people who simply are American because some other American made a film. Next week it will be something else...
Atheus – I don't buy that anymore. Pre internet maybe they didn't know what life was like in the US, but they do now. They hate us and they always have and they always will. Becuase of course we're to blame for all their problems.
I actually read in another cnn article that the film was made by an Egyptian national in the US. Try getting the mob over there to believe that.
We can't stop using oil soon enough. Once we no longer need the oil from this region the money we send in will dry up and the region will go back to the stone age.
I long for the day that no western food, medical aid or money goes into this terrible region of the world.
so tell them they do not reflect the government or the people. But we can't apologize. We can charge the film maker with inciting a riot.
Zakaria said: "Let them make a great movie about Prophet Mohammed." This is a wonderful idea! I would be interested in seeing an American language movie/video made by Muslims with video expertise. I would hope such a film could help me understand how religious indignation can justify the murder of innocents.
Interviews I saw with some of the protesters show that they really DO think that the US government authorized the film. They do not care to know. Many of the rioters are young men, in a city such as Cairo, with unemployment or under-employment up to 50%. They have a lot of adrenaline, and no outlets. Like extremists of every kind, they are easily aroused to irrationality, and now they have an excuse. But, that is NO excuse for the Arab countries' armies and governments to allow the rioting to go on. And now that the rioting is destroying embassies and structures representing other Western countries, it is clear that the fomentation was just waiting for a match to strike,and the flames would burn anything in their path that even appeared to be not Islamic.
@Storrey: 1) The news outlets are not misinformed, they report the "facts" as "they" see them. 2) You must be one of the CNN/MSNBC/BBC/NPR/CBS/ABC sheep that, like the news outlets in the Middle East, only believes what you're fed. Example of the day, the reporters on tape colluding on their questioning to Romney. What happened in Lybia is about those in the Islamic world that want nothing more than to wipe out all that do not "believe" and they will do/say/promote/provoke anything and everyone to achieve this. There is no reasoning with those that have such strong conviction other than to combat it with the same resolve, not with apologies.
its not even a movie, its a flippin poorly made youtube clip.....nobody ever heard of it till they promoted it with their violence
If they didn't like the movie why not ask the theatre for a refund. Idiots!
Atheus–
And yet the Middle East is how old, the US is how old, you really want to tell me the people in the Middle East are THAT uneducated to actually not know about the culture in the Western world? Yeah not buying it. Sorry your comment lacks merit.
The bottom line, Islam and the West do not mix, period, end of story.
Sharky well said. Im an Egyptian and i can tell u that we have facebook and twitter and youtube.how do uthink they got the movie in the first place. I agree with u that not alll of them know wut they're prot esting against and i assure u that the majority of them didn't even see it but thats bc they really dont care. The movie is not the issue here its how dare u disagree with them or even worse insult them. They dont need bad media to misinform them to hate nonmuslims, the religion is based on hatred to nonmuslims. I really feel bad bc americans r actually the ones who r misinformed. They think ppl can be better if u just find them an execuse. But trust me they dont need political freedom to change them they need a free God to worship. I pray for them everyday...
Techy, I really enjoyed your point of view. Truly, from an American Catholic, thanks for posting! I pray for tolerance and peace daily.
When you are dealing with people whose major decision of the day is "should I bang my goat, or camel?" you have to make some concessions.
The people you see rioting and throwing rocks at US consulates worldwide are ignorant, uneducated and easily misled. I say the US should simply pull out of these Arab countries and let them figure out their own crap with their own neighbors. Turn off the tap through which billions of dollars of financial aid What concerns me more is the possibility of a backlash right here in the US – there are plenty of bigoted and violent right wingers who live on isolated farms, and have been brainwashed by other ignorant and misled individuals – who could go nuts and do something completely stupid. I hope the authorities are watching them closely.
In a nutshell
Politics as usual
The "leaders" and more importantly, the power brokers, the money men who fund these gov'ts, who fund the many sects and militas who "created" the Arab spring, could have stopped the protests before they happened.
They didn't, because it suits their desire to inflame hatred against the west and all it stands for, freedom, equality, education, and prosperity (yes even with the US econimy crashing, we are all "rich"). This helps them keep all those splinter groups that make any social progress impossible, and maintains the power structure, that they are atop.
It's that simple.
Rich powerful SOBs gaming their own people for their own benefit
There is no god named allah and muhammed is not a prophet! hahahahaha......
Dear Atheus – We are just exercising out rights of free speech, rather than beheading people. Islam is a violent semi-barbaric religion which has waged war, real "kill folks" war since the 7th century. Pointing out hypocracies in other faiths is not an answer to this basic truth, if you aren't muslim, you ARE an infidel.
An insect that has lived in garbage is heaven for it. It won't even smell the fresh meat. Just leave them there.
Any dime given or forgiven should be done with clear knowledge of Libyan or Egyptian masses. Simply exchanging file folders and shaking hands will not do anything. If we have helped them get democracy, they need to put in 'kindergarten school of democracy' as well.
so your saying that you have personally given the Arab World Democracy?
in the USA, democracy is your biggest hypocrisy. You are a country built on wars, you feed off the poor and dominate the weak to satisfy your egos.
If you do not want to pass aid to the Arab and Muslim countries, then please, by all means, do not even get close to the region. Oh, wait you probably need to steal the oil that we have beneath our lands. Since before 1990, Kuwait, KSA, UAE, Libya, Egypt, Iraq and Iran have been targets of the USA.
the USA is lower than the ground that I walk on, it is lower than the oil burried deep beneath that ground.
the USA, its governments, Israeli support and deceleration of freedom and democracy are the reason why one day you will realize that oil and greed are not the right path
Khaled Rayyan - Steal your oil? We pay quite a bit of money for your oil. Without us buying your oil, your society doesn't exist. Also, go read a history book. You seem to be historically challenged.
wait..... so Arab countries don't get rich off oil either? I see your point but that's like saying its the crack addicts fault but not the crack dealer. There is greed on both ends
Khaled Rayyan
When is killing...the right path.....
Each country needs to look at their own history - the problem is we think what is here and right now indicates the issues that arise this kind of behavior/action - look your own history. Hypocrite
Your Welcome Khaled.
Khaled Rayyan – I will try to be as nice as the others have been, as I think they sure have let you down easy. That's the AMERICAN way. We do pay for oil received. We do give money to the arab countries, and then forgive the loans. I have no doubt you live on the sacred, democratic ground of the United States of America, home of the free and the brave. And there is no doubt in my mind that you are here in the US and reaping lots of money. Perhaps you should look at other countries with more liberties ( ? ).
Guys give khaled a break, everyone knows the muslims are uneducated, violent and liars....they have minimal knowledge of the world....this movie was made by an egyptian, but they attack the US becuae they dont have the proper comprehension skills....oh and khaled, North America is rich and beautiful, it is you rmuslim countries that are the cesspool of the world....
Did -USA really think that by helping the (radicals) Muslim brother hood to be in power and rule Egypt they are fulfilling the Democracy ???????? r u idiots? ... they r radicals ! they hate you and us and they said it clearly 100 times, they dont believe in democracy .
But u know what..USA made a deal with the radicals, Go rule your countries and be our Allie – ( regardless of what u do with Christians f*** them )......... USA U DESERVE WHATS HAPPENING .
Khalid, your friends in the mid east produce 2 products... terrorism and oil. if it wasnt for the oil, you would have nothing, no money, no taxbase, no social services. one day it will dry up.. then chaos will reign.
Khalled- You should be grateful that we still buy your oil. We don't need to. Between our own oil producing regions and Canada, we don't really need your oil. The fact that the western nations still buy your oil is the only thing that keeps your economy functioning. You may dislike our culture, and it's clear that many Americans feel the same about yours, but our cultures and economies are intertwined. The difference is our society could function just fine without yours, the same can't be said about the Arab and Muslim world. Without the west your economies would crumble, and your society would descend into chaos.
Khaled Rayyan
Glad you think so.
Thanks for sharing.
...does this mean you won't be coming over here for a visit ?
How sad
Khaled it's not the "usa"...its white/pink people...
Is this guy joking or what??? America is not stealing anybody's oil or any other resouce... In fact, America is actually providing resources such as medical aide and food to these poor countries.
Be happy that we still didn't pull out of all the help we provide to you.
You don't represent the Muslims. I know some muslim people and they are normal civilized individuals who don't hate others.
You are not a MUSLIM!!!
YOU ARE A MURDERED, AN ANIMAL, who just happens to be muslim.
The United States has supported brutal dictators in many countries of the Middle East. The US supported Mubarak in Egypt for more than 20 years. The US supported Mubarak right until the moment he was overthrown. The army that Mubarak used against the Egyptian people was funded by the United States.
In Saudi Arabia, the US has supported a dynasty of tin pot dictators (the Al-Saud dynasty) that has ruled over the people with an iron fist.
In Palestine, the US has supported the Zionists in their daily abuses against the Palestinians for more than 50 years.
The US foreign policy in the Middle East is carried out on behalf of the top 1%, the tiny group of people that actually OWN the United States. Nobody else benefits from this policy.
Wow nicely put guys. AS AN AMERICAN from a military family and being part of the military with a more level head than other put involved with the service you guys said everything that I was thinking.
They're not even pre-K material.
When all is said and done, religious extremism (whether abroad or in the U.S) is a psychological disorder – those who cling to it either lack the intelligence or emotional tools to live in a world of nuanced thinking. More open-minded Arabs can learn to see the connections between things like free speech and social progress but these fanatics are pathologically incapable of letting go of their hate and insecurities. Isn't religion great?
It has been shown that any religious belief, not just extremism, can be considered a psychological disorder.
You do realize that atheism is a religious belief, don't you?
The degree that you can count aetheism a "religious" belief is the degree of devotion that the person puts into it. A simple disbelief in a divine being and a desire to make the world safe for such belief is not religious. However, when devotion to anything becomes vital to mental stability and security (like the belief that America is infallible), that is religious and a sign of psychological distress or inadequacy.
I"ll tell you like I told Khaled Rayyan earlier....you need to go read a history book. Agnostics are just as bad as any religeous person can be. Usually worse. But I agree with you that extremism seems to be a physological disorder.
Not necessary. Fascism was not a religion, you need just BIG IDEA to get going !
Tim- well spoken
Disliking or not believing in region doens't mean you are an Atheist
I mean religion.
The problem is that by definition Muslims believe that anyone who does not believe as they do, in their Allah, should be murdered and they will be rewarded for it. So if you don't even believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and you won't believe in their 'Allah', you are as good as dead to them as well.. How can Muslims even be tollerated when they are entirely anti-American? This isn't the end of this, nor is this some situational reaction...
Atheism is a religious belief like...
...OFF in a TV channel
...bald in hair color
...not collecting stamps is a hobby
jennifer, It is ironic that the Muslim God and the Christian God is the same God. The Old Testament is just as much part of the Quran an it is in the Christian bible, the difference is who the profit – Christian is is Jesus, Muslim is Mohamed. Jewish has no profit.
Jewish faith was spread far and wide to break off two main religious branches.
The real reason they are protesting is because, otherwise, they would have to go to work.
What you fail to realize is the Religion is not the cause, it's the excuse.
God is good. Allah is nasty.
allah does not equal God.
God is yet another theft by muslims.
a Psychological disorder...? and by that you meant something classified in the DSM? or something you created because your an expert in clinical psychology....
I am thankful that I found your comment, so thanks for your clear headed analysis. I don't think I will read further, I will just be disappointed.
It also means wearing your undie on your pants aint gonna make you fly.. Add value or stay away from the keyboard
everyone needs to make a Prophet Mohammed spoof lets start a war and finish this.
why cant any one criticise or make fun of mohommad/islam/koran. followers of islam have no problem killing or converting people of other faiths in countries where they form a majority or even parts of a country where they form a majority. in saudi and iran they force every womann cover their head etc. but when they are in a minority then they want everyone else to give them their rights.
why dont you try and see who wins
one way to "immunize" people to certain images is to show them over and over again. if there were a million of these it is possible that they would be seen as nothing after a while. on the other hand, the entire middle east could go ballistic
unlike you we are willing to die for our religion and for your info no one makes us cover our hair we want to
so get it straight
Nina, sweets, just do it, and I don't mean hair-straightening part !
Nina, if a war ever occurred, the middle east would be wiped out, all the 3rd world countries would go away, and the land would be split by the 1st world countries, who's religion does not inspire violence. I know gas and oil prices would go down. So please, BRING IT, we are willing to die for our religionS (plural) and country. Don't write checks that your *** can't cash. We would WIPE YOU OUT, idiot. Believe that, you fool. Also, Mohammed isn't real, neither is Allah, and the stuff in the Quran was written by human beings, not any "god". Have a nice day, third world retard.
Dont you understand why muslims are so defensive of their religion and muhammad? Because the religion is fake, stolen from Judaism and Christianity, with hints of a war manual and how to kill infidels and Jews......muhammad was a pedophile, was no prophet and was never in Jerusalem...islam was created a thousand years after Christianity and Judaism.....
nina, you would be wiped out....
@nina lol your 3rd world 1950's weapons would be comical next to thousands of drones that would swarm your nations obliterating anyone seen brandishing a gun
nina..that is the point. we don't and shouldn't have to die for religious views. that was what was explained "they're all signs of a fundamental problem within Arab societies, a fundamental lack of tolerance and an extremism". simply put the arab world cannot take a joke. and yes it was a terribly idiotic film. but nonetheless a joke.
nina, try going outside in Saudi Arabia or Iran or Afghanistan without covering your hair. The beating you will get will quickly show you justhow much choice you have.
ok your ppl r stupid. 1st: Ppl in the middle easthave technology more advacned than the 1950s first off not near as technologically or surperior to ours but not that old, 2nd: Yeah I wish more ppl would make more stupid ass cartoons just to show the rest of the world how ignorant & retarded the middle east muslims r, the ppl of that region r pathetically inept, and if they reestablished a draft in this country and had a full out war we would DESTROY you guys. And lastly 3rd: Muslims follow the exact law of Islam that its been since the crusades I'm surprised u ppl have advanced as far as u did oh wait THATS RIGHT IF IT WASN'T FOR AMERICA & WESTERN NATIONS u wouldn't have the money to fund ur education system, military, and economy to the same extent without us. Which is y u guys militarily & economicly dont do anything from a governmental stand point. Bedcuz we'd cut off ur aid and obliterate your existence. An the oil we'd come up with a new resource to power our vehicles and daily lives or use the oil in spots in North America.
It only makes sense to use up the muslims oil as quick as possible before we use our own so therefore in 20-100yrs all the middle eastern nations r purchasing oil from the United States.
surprising how many in Canada agree with you....ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!
Why go through all that, skip the spoof.
Chris, i'm sure its obvious the US would win in an all out war. why do you think the few extremists (relative to the whole Islamic population) result to terrorist strategies? Like most idiots in America you probably only know the crap you see on Fox news and maybe you've ready a few textbooks in school. Good job kid. You still sound like an idiot though. And our new forms of energy eh? Enlighten us all on how that's going for the US right now. Wind and solar is going real good no?
Yes you are correct towel heads do what towel heads do and that is why if I were president I would do what I would do. Some of those places would be parking lots already!!! By attacking our embassies they are actually directly attacking the US, And because we have a weak president with a weak administration these types of people will continue to get away with desrtroying US assests and killing americans but see that is ok with this president he wants to be re-eclected so he wouldnt take any action no matter what they did at this point. Sorry POTUS sorry adminstration
hahahaha, do you remember on 9/11, the video of Busch being informed about the WTC being destroyed and what did he do? He just kept reading to the kids. And you call the guy who finished the job getting Bin Laden the weak one? I try to have a normal conversation with people like you, but you're just like the extremists. All hate and ignorance, no tolerance or understanding at all. I don't even like Obama, but people like you open your mouth and spout things like that and I find myself defending him time and time again.
I remember the 9/11 video. Bush definately did not go on a Letterman, have some laughs or have a good nights sleep after that event.
Technically Obama did not ORDER the mission, he only approved a mission that was suggested to him.
Obama ordered the mission to kill Bin Laden - He continued reading because he knew what was happening and didn't want to upset the school children. He did just what he should have done in that instant. Finished calmly (against the wishes of those with him, they were wanting him to leave), then left calmly. I would imagine if he got up and rushed off the air force 1 that would have been the wrong thing to do in your mind. Quit suckling the liberal teet and get all the facts before blathering nonsense.
Well, of course, he approved the order, but he's the president, so the mission, whether it worked or not was on him. You know that the republicans would have had a field day with it had it failed. They would have plastered the great Obama blunder all over FOX news if there was even a hint of failure.
So, the secret service guy whispering in his ear and the shocked look on his face weren't enough to scare the kids??? His dumbfounded look, pause, then change to read like nothing happened was the right thing to do, really?? What about calmly getting up and excusing yourself, the president has pressing matters and so on. Come on, stop blindly defending conservatism. Don't talk about facts when you are using your best guess as to what he was thinking. That's the problem with you people, you mistake facts for conjecture.
Who is Busch?
Bin Laden isn't dead because Obama is president, Obama just happened to be president when Bin Laden died...
oh you mean like when obama went to vegas to party while our embassies burned in muslim countries?
Four Americans died in Libya.
On Sept 11, 2001,
3000 Americans died because George Bush didnt do his job.
What is the number one priority of any sitting president ?
To protect America and Americans.
I will take Obama anyday over Republican failures.
Steve
oh you mean like when obama went to vegas to party while our embassies burned in muslim countries?
Obama was in Washington, that makes you a liar.
Busch is a brand of beer.
Really – from your post I can see you do not practice what you preach
i think we should let our president take care of this . He is the man for having the cool hand in situations like this. But as for the money we give other countries they should earn it. There leaders should be able to keep there citizens under some control. We know that most of them hate us. But that is why we need to have control over the money we give them. For bad behavior like this they would get a much smaller amount of money. They love money just like the rest of the leaders in the world , believe me they would start behaving.
I'm pretty surprised you're literate enough to read this article
obama had nothing to do with getting bin laden...the hunt for him was going on for ten years, started by bush carried out by us army, marines, cia, intelligence etc.......he just happened to be found while obama was in office....any president past or present would have also said, "go ahead" .....lefties are so googly eyed for their leaders....lol....
This is to Steve regarding the "Any president would have said go" comment. Well know fact that three times during Hillary's presidency they had him delivered on a silver platter and they let him walk. Too busy with cigars and interns!
This article was well done. The responses that followed ruined it. It saddens me that ignorant ill informed people–like the majority of those who replied–will be voting in November.
Very well said. A lot of the inaccuracies out there about various things relating to the government are simply concoctions conjured up by either Republicans or Democrats to "slap mud into each other's faces" to make the other one (i.e. the opposing party) look bad, so then they can get elected for whatever reason.
Obviously you are writing of the liberals here.
Yes it's hard to image that uniformed liberals could find good in the most expensive ($5 trillion), worst economic and polarizing president ever! ...and trying to justify re-electing Obama is a testament to their blind faith!
"Towels" are typically worn by all tropical / equatorial cultures and religions traditionally to protect themselves from sun / heat.
I think your problem is not with the towel, it is with the muslims
Hawaiians don't wear them nor do Israelis. Sigh, try again.
The film shows the film maker was right.
+1
I agree completely...film was aweful and distasteful, but it brought out the worst in the ignorant humans that plaque the world. Any religion that promotes such a passionate hate towards others shouldn't be allowed to spread. Its misinturpetations should be stompted out with education or not taught at all. If the individual lacks the capacity to take in the religion in its purity he/she shouldnt be a canidate. Ignorance, Fear and Greed are the diseases that hurts Humans not religions. Violence are the tools of the fearful and weak. We are an organism that has such great potential for greatnest, yet we are so easily manipulated with Hate, Fear, Greed and our Insecurities. It a saddens me to live in a world fill with so many blind people. Life and every single moment within it is Beautiful; a "god," the promise of heaven, or better life after isnt. These are just tools by which the few have controled the many for a very, very long time, and this will continue to be true untill you learn to think, see, listen and feel the world for yourself. We are one.
Thanks, Wowzer.
Wowzer......Violence ia a tool of the fearful and weak? If it wasn't for a little violence here and there you'd be speaking German. If they even let the weak like you live.
You must be under 18 for sure. If you want to use some slam like that, it is "Rag Head". Act like an adult when posting.
Im old and tired of seeing America get kicked and punched in the face by these Muslim hate mongers,,,its time to to hit back, enough is enough,,,,I would leave a city of their glowing green in the dark and if they hurt another American I would do it to another city...is that extreme,,yes,,but its the only thing these People understand, they are never going to like us, wake up and realize that, turning the other cheek is not going to get anything done except being smacked in that cheek also. Im sick of America being blamed for every problem in this world.
I think our government should demand all embassys close, all americans evacuate all coutries overseas, stop all trades, sall support, all protectionan, revoke all visa including educational for all and ship all homeand finally close all the borders indefinately. That should do it! Hahaha
Really? All "these people" (an obvious generalization of Muslims since not all of them were involved in the recent incidents and not all of them are radicals) understand is power and force. I have heard that before. Let me give you a little history lesson (it will be quite biased, only because you refuse to see the other side). America invaded Iraq. America invaded Afghanistan. We have troops deployed all over the Middle East. We can (and have) periodically launched cruise missiles to destroy specific targets. We have drones pummeling Pakistan. We support Israel, who is occupying Palestine through the use of force. We support dictators who love the use of force. In conclusion, we do use force, and perhaps too often because they still don't seem to be getting it. It is much more complex than that. It really is sad that innocent people are murdered and the only way people want to respond is through "teaching them a lesson". Well this lesson has been taught already, many times, and it doesn't stick. I don't know the answers, but I know this. The ambassador who died did so because he believed in the people of the Middle East. He understood he was risking his life to try and help the masses there in their struggle against extremism and militancy. In short, he died fighting exactly what you are proposing. Now there is plenty of blame to go around. The people who did the killing are obviously the ones who deserve the most blame. They promote violence and take advantage of poor and uneducated masses, channeling their passions in destructive ways. They will get what is coming for them. They truly understand nothing; not force, not negotiation, not compassion. If we could get Osama, we will get them. It will take time though, and we must not risk endangering the mission by becoming overly passionate and irrational ourselves. Again, think of what the ambassador was working for before you comment on the implications of his death. The governments of the countries involved also should be hel accountable for allowing the protests to get out of control and not reacting quick enough. Libya has quickly apologized, and protesters in the streets (much larger than those at the embassies) likewise apologized. Egypt has been much slower in its condemnation, and this is quite disturbing. Of course bombing them would surely not have them extend condolences any sooner, so patience is needed. Certainly the loan being forgiven should not be granted if the Egyptian government doesn't wake up and realize who its real ally is (the United States). We could also pull aid to their military (that is where most of the aid to Egypt goes). Look, I don't really want to dive into the politics here too much, because it is extremely complicated and it is extremely frustrating. It makes people here in the US want to employ more force. US citizens wonder "what in the world is wrong with these people? we support their democracy, we send them money, and then they kill our ambassador?". But we have to remember why our ambassador was willing to risk his life in a foreign land when it seemed to be of little benefit to him. He understood that not all the people in the Middle East were bad. He knew much of their politics had been hijacked by radicals, and that the moderates needed support. He knew the US could provide this support. He knew there would be setbacks and it would be difficult. But he knew that there was no choice because success was the only real way forward. A future of conflict is no future at all. God bless that great man, and all the other who died that day, or any day throughout history, fighting a real fight, a fight for peace and a safer world. All those who want to fight any other fight should be ashamed of themselves.
Correct. Violence is the true nature is Islam, and there's only one way to deal with it.
So if you decide that violence is the nature of a people and you must deal with it through violence, then haven't you decided that violence is the nature of you as well? News flash, we're a pretty violent bunch as well. Both our nation and our traditional faith of Christianity are not exactly known for being meek and passive.
Are you a muslim? It is not right for those who are not of the faith, and do not understand the faith of another to mock or make fun of anothers faith, ESPECIALLY when misunderstanding abounds. That is when we all need to take a moment and realize, hey, somehow someway these people are behaving in a way that is completely rational to them, I may not understand it, but that does not give me the right to spew forth hate. Go meet muslims, the majority(like all religeons and groups there are exceptions) are great people, with much respect for those around them, not fear mongerers or violent people.
Let me be perfectly clear, Religeous Tolerance is the only cure for this. It will take time. It will take freedom, and it will take EDUCATION. I completely condem the jihad that is going on, and hope that a peaceful solution can be found and quickly.
Wonder where they learned that from...
If the Muslims really are such a great people then they need to stand up as one and condemn these acts. They sit there and do nothing while some one hijacks the religion for misdeeds. If this was in America people would stand up and condemn the acts of barbarism in their names. Stand up. Stand up. Stand up. If you do not I will group you all in the same boat and so will most Americans. This is the misunderstanding I see in people. Why don't Muslims stand up and say what is right and wrong.
Tolerance, loved your post. Well spoken.
Senseless violence. Ghetto mentality. No mercy.
I sure don't see an outcry and action by the so called peaceful people of Islam stomping down there violent brotheren. Maybe because when you look closely, the reality is there is no difference between the two?
How ignorant can people be ! The prophet to Muslims is untouchable character. Your freedom of speech stops when it starts affecting other people ...just like its wrong to call an American African " nig***" it is wrong to call Muslism " towel heads ". I am not ok with the protesters being violent as much as they are but we have no right to talk about any religion . Why is it so hard to respect each other ?
That's a bit like saying you have the right to never be offended. That $3 towards law school is really paying off.
Do you want to throw away the 1st Amendment when other religious figures are offended or only when Muhammad is because the troglodytes kill people for insulting him?
Did you react the same to the terrorist when they bombed the Christian churches in different countries and bombed plus destroyed the ancient Buddha Statues in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Why can they have the right to burn American Flag and kill innocent people plus putting in jail those who are not sharing the same religious belief as they do? And can't accept others doing the same thing to their religion? What religion worth to be called a good religion when they use killing as a mean to prove that they are right and not even able to participate in debate that how and where all beings regardless of background , races or religion would be after death? If there is a God or Alah with a prejudice view or favortism then where is the power of that God or Alah from the very beginning to just create only fanatic followers of instead of letting the world becoming a multi-religions, multi-nations like what it is today?
Those who claim to serve God or Alah through their violent means are nothing but cowards. They are afraid the truth about themselves and what they do to be revealed so they have to use religion as the shield to hide their selfish, greedy and dirty intention.
American should call for the boycott of Egypt if that President doesn't apologize to American citizens for failing to protect our diplomats on their own land.
No matter how bad the film is, it may have something that the extremist is afraid the rest of the world would know.
The truth frees us, don't even attempt to call for the stop of showing that film because the extremist would think we're afraid of them. Let's them deal with their own truth and let's them show their true face of being nothing but violent and coward.
Whoever says President Obama
Your grammar's in need of work, but the thought is correct.
85 million people in Egypt, 300-400 protesters. Perspective please
correct perspective. what amounted to killing Americans should have been an Egyptian government handling a riot.
Egypt, and many other middle eastern countries are for the most part uncivilized, and stuff such as this will happen.
Anyone want to start a "Death to Islam", Koran burning protest?
Muhammad was not a molester. He married his first wife and she was older than him. The young girl he married has reached puberty – something that was acceptable by that time standards. She loved and defended him more than you imagine. She learned Islam from him and was the best teacher ever. I invite you to learn about the life of Muhammad from unbiased sources – like Muhammad: Legacy of a Prophet by Michael Wolfe & Alex Kronemer – search it on Amazon.
Going back to the issue of this topic, I am a Muslim and don’t agree with the violence over this movie. Time will prove that the enemy of American people and Muslims world are behind such movies. I was in Middle East few months ago and the fast majority of people appreciate the help of the USA with getting rid of the oppressive regimes. I was thinking and hoping we are going in the direction of mutual respect and cooperation. But now, we are 100 years going backward – but let’s have some hope that the wise among both sides don’t let this tragedy explode further.
I am also very concerned why the Coptic man claimed to be an Israeli-American. Is he trying to cause more troubles between the Jewish and Muslim people? Is this free speech? I think he should have spent that effort and money to bring more peace between the Muslims and Coptic people in Egypt.
@Ibrahim: "The young girl he married has reached puberty – something that was acceptable by that time standards. She loved and defended him more than you imagine."
She was 6 when he married her, 9 when he consumated the marriage. That is not the age of puberty. That is pedophilia, and it is wrong. Was then, is now, and always will be. As for it being acceptable by the standards of the time, it's still happening today – so what's the excuse now?
I don't see anyone crying or mentioning about Israeli violence against Palestinian. Israel kicked out hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees (now are about 10 millions refugees still waiting to com back) from their farms, villages, and land. Israel until now refuses to let them come back to their homes. This is one of the biggest injustice in the recent history. Imagine for someone to come to a state like New Jersey and kick out its residence and replace them with another immigrants from Europe and the rest of the world by force. What a terrible and horrible country?
Israel kicked out hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees.....
The Arab armies that attacked Israel told those people to leave
there homes, and when all of the Jews are dead they can return.
They lost the war.
If you wanted to kill me, you think i would let you back in my neighborhood.
They can go back to there original countries.
Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt.
You lost, get over it.
Ah, Sam! I was wondering when your sorry anti-Semite azz would raise it's wrinkly head. Mom all done having you rub horse linament on her strectch marks? Crawl back into your hole, you troll.
The so called Palestinians ran out of Israel in 1948 when Egypt and Syria and Jordan invaded with rocket launchers. They ran for cover but Egypt and Syria and Jordan blocked their borders. The Israelis live din peace with the Arabs under British rule and had no plans to get rid of half their population. The arabs started and continue this problem. Get the facts right. Golda Meir even talked to the King of Jordan to work together and he was about to until Nasser of Egypt threatened an attack on Jordan. You arabs are so fun loving.
Frankly, that would be a plus for New Jersey!
Kicking people out of Jersey would be an improvement..........seen Jersey Shore? Not exactly a shining example of the United States, hahaha.
This was a very smart, measured article filled with real information and logical connections.
Yet, get a load of the first comment posted:
Towel Heads writes: "It reveals that Towel Heads IS what Towel Heads DO".
Pearls before swine, Fareed. Seems like you are way over the heads of a lot of the American population, who-at times-seem as ill-informed and primal as the Islamic radicals.
I liked the article as well. I generally don't read these commentary areas because it's often a playground of people that are just bored and love to stir people up. I bothered to read this time because really was a good article and there have been enough pearls of wisdom to be able to overlook the garbage.
This was a very smart, measured article filled with real information and logical connections.
Yet, get a load of the first comment posted:
Towel Heads writes: "It reveals that Towel Heads IS what Towel Heads DO".
Seems like many Americans are just as primal and dumb as the Islamic radicals.
Atheus and some of the other people in the peanut gallery. Sorry this article is more of a half hearted appology whic doesn't really explain why this happening. If it did, what about the embassy in Germany? His logic falls apart with a example. Face it, we are infidels.
The videpo should be taken down by Youtube and YouTube should be helld accountable for the content that is distributed via their site.
Have to disagree with you big time there. Do not blame the internet for the unrest in the Middle East. And whether or not you like what people post there, it should not be up to YouTube to determine if a piece is "politically correct" or not. That's censorship and we don't like censorship in this country. And besides, if it wasn't the film, it would be something else that sparked this violence. It was only a matter of time.
You sound like an apoligetic Canadian.
A great people who just cant seem to stand up for themselves.
Someone punches you in the face and YOU apoligise.
They're not towel heads silly! They're wearing tableclothes and fanbelts on their heads!
HEY! Don't make fun of my Steampunk costume! That fan belt looks awsome! (jk just trying make someone chuckle)
Mr. Zakaria, have you ever read WALID SHOEBAT's books?! He stated quite clearly that Islam & Democracy will NEVER work as they are two diametrical concepts.
Muslim extremists are hateful, ruthless, uneducated and mostly young. Our Media provides them with a perfect opportunity to get attention (because we crave this sort of news). The majority of the Muslim world are Peaceful lawbiding people. I blame the Muslim Leaders who choose not to speakout against the violence! Where are they? As for Egypt, pull back the Billions and say "good luck"! And the rest of the Muslim world can go to Hell.
And we should mind our own business! Why do we care?
Ghengis Khan had a similar problem with his ambassador in Otrar, in present day Kazakhstan. His solution was to annihilate every man, woman, child, goat, chicken, and cow, and burn every structure to the ground, and erase the city from the face of the earth.
It should cost Egypt $1 Billion dollars at the minimum. Hopefully the Tea Party will get behind something useful for a change.
Wow, you're not even a grammatical bigot.
1) It's not a towel, it's a turbin.
2) You are being anti-Islamic. Not all Muslims are extremist.
3) Christianity is no prize of a religion either if you want to go by extremism.
4) No, I'm not Muslim. I'm Jewish.
Well Mr. Plageriser Fareed, it means what we have known all along. That Obama is a Muslim lover and that he hates Christians!
Shouldn't you be hiding under a bridge somewhere and waiting to molest a trio of goats?
You idiot racist. There is a difference between a freedom of speech and between a hate speech. This film is a hate speech. Got it idiot.
You don't even know what "hate speech" is until you've read the koran. It's an owner's manual of hate speech.
why is everybody so frickin racist. learn to be tolerant or we are all doomed to fire and brimstone. read revelations
It says so in the bible, so that proves it.
You're in the same mental vacuum as the muzzies.
They do not wear towels on their heads. They wear sheets. They are sheetheads.
LMAO!
Every week Bill Maher does the same thing to Mormons, Catholics, and Muslims. How come nobody on the left says he should stop with hate speech ?
If the guy who made the Muslim film Innocence of Muslims is Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a 55-year-old Egyptian, why are Arabs, and Muslims, striking out against Americans, shouldn't they be mad at Egyptians since that the nationality of this guy? I also say they should not be called terrorists but insead racist bigots and intolerants, we did not allow the KKK, or Nazi's, to use their culture as a reason for hate, why should Middle Easterneers who hate be allowed to?
The sad thing is that even though this guy turned out to be Egytian, the 'demonstrators' will never believe it, no matter how much proof.
FInd it kinda funny. The movie showed Islam as a religion of violence and hatered (from what I've seen), and now the muslims show their protest.. by violence. Didn't that just proved the point of the movie?
Why is our media calling these folks protesters when they called PSU students rioters last year?
Same reason that the Iraqis with the EID's are called insurgents, not The Iraqi Resistance. Depend on what slant you want on the story.
Remember, you might think that news organizations' #1 goal is to bring you the truth. But that is incorrect. These are for-profit businesses for which the #1 goal is to make money.
You make money by selling advertising space, and you make that attractive to advertisers by having large readership. You generate large readership by creating controversy; in other words...by stirring the pot.
Remember this when you read the news. It helps you to filter it a bit...
Perhaps if the various medias would choose to report the incidents without 24 hr journalists and cameramen standing by at these small congregations of protestors to report their every stone throw, these type of events would be more likely to stay in check. While news outlets proclaim it is their job to report all news, they do have in my opinion to have a moral obligation to people whose lifes might be endangered or harmed to not fan the flames.
So as long as we're getting rid of free speech we should get rid of freedom of the press as well?
I think one thing WE are missing is that "Free Speech" carries the responsibility of the speaker to stand up and stand behind their words. Hurling inflamatory insults from an anonymous position and letting the rest of your
fellow countrymen take the heat for your words is an irresponsible exercise of that right.
We should allow free speech, but understand that free speech is the basis of Dialogue, and as such,
we should "Out" the film makers and send them over there to witness the response to their words...:)
I don't want to be endangered, or characterized by the words or actions of some christian lunatic.
Perhaps less 24 hr news coverage of every stone throw by an overabundance of journalists and cameramen for the relatively small congregations of protesters would help keep matters in check. While every news media will say it's their job to report news, it shouldn't be them making the news by fanning the flames especially when peoples' lives are in jeopardy.
As I recall the news coverage in Vietnam was one of the major reasons for outcry against the war.
This is an absolute meltdown in the Middle East...caused by NO FOREIGN POLICY (or, one of appeasement). I can't believe people buy in to the narrative of this article...what absolute spin.
What would all the drone attacks into Pakistan, Sudan and Yemen be called. Why did the extremists attack USS Cole? The twin towers? etc. etc. Were the presidents appeasing them then?
But we must not call them Towel Heads. Their headgear is actually made of little sheets, folded in a special way. So to be completely accurate, we should call them 'Little Sheet heads'.
send a nuke to these ungrateful ass mohamed sucks and send it ALA mode
Just memorize or save these burning pictures. In the future, if these areas ever suffered from disasters and the those same people need help, before open your wallets, just look back at these pictures.
The reason radical Muslims are now attacking European interests in the Middle East is simple from their current point of view, which stretches way back to European history of the Middle Ages —they see America merely as an extension of Europe.
Europeans of the Middle Ages in the second millennium committed atrocities against Islam via the Crusades from 1095 to 1291. Catholic Europe waged practically non-stop war on Islam for nearly 200 years! Back then, 200 years must have been about 10 generations. They see Americans as miscreant European Crusaders, but of the third millennium.
If you ask me, they need to get over the Crusades, and fast. After all, it was the US in 1776 that put an end to monarchy government in the West and started a ‘diaspora of democracy’ world-wide that has finally spread to the Middle East, it was the US that put a stop to Serbs slaughtering Muslims in the 1990s, in 2000 pope John Paul apologized for the Crusades, and it is the US that is leading global support for the Muslim / Arab Spring of 2012.
They also need to refocus on the fact that Judaism, Christianity (Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Coptic, Protestant) and Islam are all Abrahamic / Ibrahimic faiths, that they come from the same source!
how ignorant are you? Did you just graduate from the 5th grade?
Actually, the towel heads are the first to wear and promote Canon Towels. They're quality made, and large enough to cover the gray matter between the ears once wrapped around the head. So...to all towel heads.....keep buying Canon Towels, .....oh....and by the way......tell your friends.
"Towel Heads
It reveals that Towel Heads IS what Towel Heads DO."
That kind of comment is not helpful. You are no better that the criminals who killed our ambassador or the morons
burning our flag in the streets.
"you’re talking about a few hundred people, here and there"
Yeah, sure. That's what you told us ten years ago. And hundreds of thousands of dead later these "few hundred" Moslems are still at it. Still killing. Still throwing women down wells. Still threatening to wipe Israel off the map.
Take your middle brow, America-hating, apologist Q&A and shove it Mr Zakaria. It's amazing CNN still keeps and intellectual theif stealing fraud like you around.
why the potus has to be weak for not responding to these dumb people who are just looking for a reason to start trouble. now if the american start attacking the arabs that in our country. then they wont like that. we need to just let the Jews (isreal) people wipe them out. i am sick of this crazy stuff. bush didnt do any thing when they flew there plane into the tower in fact it took him 3 months to do any thing. he start all this mess with those people. and now were he at
Iranians are the only nation in the world with any backbone: We sent the yankees home with their tails between their legs back in '79 and never let them back in. Life is so much better without leaches around.
It reveals that many people-including some national leaders in the Arab world, don't understand that we protect free speech in this nation-even if it is from a buffoon and bigoted idiot like Towel Heads. We allow people to make a fool of themselves through their words, as long as no physical harm is done. That's what the Arab world doesn't understand.
People like the jerk who is Towel Head give the U.S. a bad name all over the world, but in a free society, it's instructive to let voices of ignorance and hatred to have their say, as it gives a clear contrast against those who think like civilized human beings.
Comments like these make baby Jesus cry.
Fareed Zakaria is an ideologue and a plagiarist. He's a perfect fit at CNN, considering they're self-censors.
....and the liberals think that this is real journalism!
Whyw
Their brains are smaller by approx 10 percent
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve)
i stopped reading after Fareed...is this the same guy that was suspended from CNN?
This comment is incredibly bigoted - take it somewhere else, pal!
Maybe I'll get just a little highh before jumping on someones head.
this is more a problem of sensationalist media outlets highlighting right wing christian extremists in America and muslim extremists in the middle east. And then less than intelligent people everywhere trying to stereotype all of these extremists as somehow representative of the majority of these populaces when it is miles from the truth. Then political parties in both places play on the "media reality" as fact and enflame the ignorance for no other reason than to gain power and the "media reality" somehow turns into actual reality.
Here is something ez, if you are not protesting peacefully and so much as point weapons to an embassy. Point and shoot...self defense. If they are invading our embassies its an invasion of our country... point and shoot. No need to find them they will come to you. No weeding out. Remember point and shoot.
its getting out of control... i live a city over where the guy lives (norwalk/cerritos)
and next door city is Artesia, and its heavy into the Muslim world. heck, more than half are populated of Arabs.
its getting out of hand and its not looking any less tense over here in these neighborhood areas listed above.
there is a high value of intelligences over here in these areas, and if you know more then a few neighborhood peeps/kids/adults/friends/teenagers etc... you'll know what is the potential that is in reach, especially in technology. where the social gathers are much deeper and well educated.
the guy who made the video... well, he's gots lost of explaining to do. but, noneoftheless, cerritos is city that mass promote education and security; and on the other side of the world, they got family who lives in Cerritos, Ca., and Artesia Ca,.
Its intense when you know that on the other side of the world there's people who are dead and violence are being promoted... while the city responsible who the individual is being housed, is heavy with Arabs in a high income neighborhood.
Now, let us have a closer look at what the Koran says about the infidels:-
Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)
Who is Muhammad that is followed by more than one billion Muslims?
Is he a venerable scientist?
Is he a popular prince?
Is he a sophisticated Prime Minister ?
Is he a fair king?
The answer is
No
He is greater than all of those
He is the Messenger of Almighty God
Muhammad received the message from Almighty God 1400 years ago to call all mankind to follow the true path, no matter where or when; no matter if white or black, his message is for all.
His message is the last and the lasting one, no messenger will come after him, he is the last Messenger.
Who is Muhammad?
Is he a terrorist, as said by some Western media, or is he the brave warrior who won most of his battles against the enemies of Islam, or is he the genius who resolved all cases and troubles between the tribes.
He is the one who protected our Rights.
He protected men's, women's and children rights
He protected the relations between neighbors
He established the relationship between Muslims and Non-Muslims .
He organized the relationship between the members of the family showing the duties towards the parents
He prevented injustice and called for justice, love, togetherness and cooperation for the best.
He called for helping the needy, visiting the patients, love and exchanging advises between people.
He prohibited bad manners such as steeling, lying, and murdering .
He is the one who changed our lives and manners to the best .
A Muslim doesn't steal
A Muslim doesn't lie
A Muslim doesn't drink alcohol.
A Muslim doesn't commit adultery
A Muslim doesn't cheat
A Muslim doesn't kill innocent people
A Muslim doesn't harm his neighbors
A Muslim obeys his parents and helps them
A Muslim is kind to young and elderly people, to women and to weak people.
A Muslim doesn't torture humans or even animals
A Muslim loves his wife and takes care of his children and show mercy towards them until the last day of his life.
A Muslim's relationship towards his children never stops even when they become adults
He is Muhammad (PBUH) peace be upon him, and Jesus, Moses, and all the great prophets of Almighty God
Did you know why all Muslims love Muhammad (PBUH)?
Did you know what does Muhammad mean for Muslims?
Every Muslim loves Muhammad (peace be upon him) more than himself and more than everything in his life.
Before judging a person be neutral and:
1-Listen to this person, and follow his doings.
2-Compare his ideas and teachings with what is acceptable to the mind and heart.
3-If you think that his thoughts are right, compare them with his doings; is he applying his teachings?
4-If he is applying his teachings and sayings, so he is for sure right and one must believe him.
At the end you will get a clear answer for all confusing questions and you will know for sure :
who Muhammad really is
A Muslim doesn't kill innocent people?
What about the most recent murders? What about the so-called honor murders? Girls who just wanted to change life style? What definition do you give these crimes? If you want to receive respect you have to give it. Living in this country also means you are supposed to respect our believes too. Otherwise you just take and do not give anything. Do you know how is this behavior called in the scientific community? Parasitism and this has nothing to do with religion. You are not 100% right, and you know it: you always complain, you never smile, you are tedious. Again, it is not a fact of religion, it is your pretentious, arrogant behavior of superiority. Make me a favor, go in front of a mirror and look at what you see. You will see a man with big mustaches always frowning. And this is the image that you give us. Always. Your religion has nothing to do with, I say again, it is your behavior that is really, really boring. Nobody can understand you, because you do not do anything to be loved. Love? It is not part of your world.
Hey man, what are you smoking??
what's in your pipe or hookah? we dont need your exhausting elaborations on what a Muslim is! Get a reality check buddy...just look at the deeds! You are all prehistoric creatures with a prehistoric cave like mind set. It may be attributed to the desert heat...but that is really no excuse.
Sir I see by your post that you are a Ture Believer and feel you have a right to take human life. you are a nut Sir so pure for God you would just kill for him. if I was a believer? I would pray for you!
Well Jesus was a Towel Head. Born as a Jew in Palestine. He had a beard. Why don't you classify him as well- he was born in your 'so-called' junk brokedown place. Was he a terrorist in your eyes? Inciting people to go against the Jews from a mount.
Lets just leave so they can go back to killing themselves.
Muslims have Obama figured out in that he reeks of smell of weakness and would be weak enough like Carter that he would actually apologize to the Muslim world.... They would never have demanded Bush (or even Reagan) to apologize, they would have feared him and Egypt would be the first to apologize.
Laws of the playground... they can smell weakness and feed off it. Child rearing 101.
It is how you can tell when a muslim reaches puberty,,he takes the diaper off of his ass and wraps it around his head,,aka:diaper heads. These people wipe their ass with their hand and they say pork is dirty?,,pfffffft. Someday,,imo they will go too far and then watch out,it will be ugly.
this in not about the movie is about our past 70 years of support of corrupt goverments of Islamic courntries and US uncondional support for Isreal
the past 70 years has been mostly food aid! the of support of your corrupt goverments was all we had to work with alfter the mess of world war 2. evey time we've try'ed to help its always no deal till we let you finish off the Jews. Love and Peace ya ya I got your message.
It's actually NOT a towel. It's a small, folded sheet. So, they are really Sheet-Heads
bigots don't need to wear sheets to spread bigotry...
Wow, that is an amazingly moronic thing to say. By Towel Head are you referring to Seiks? We're not discussing them here. Please ask your mother before you post again.
just don't let any more of them in the USA...we are being invaded....
HAHAHA NOT ONE COMMENT BY A COLLEGE GRAD!!!! WTH U ALL THINK LIKE BUNCH OF HIGHSCHOOLERS. NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN U AND IDIOTS IN MIDDLE EAST.
NOT SURE IF YOU NOTICED BUT EVERYONE CAN GET EDUCATION IN UNITED STATES...GO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT AND STOP RELYING ON MY TAX DOLLARS...
why are we still reading material written by a serial plagiarizer?
THE US has no leader. Just an empty suit. Obama should be attending his daily briefings. So what does he do...goes on another campaign event..while 21 countries are in protest. Media is still in his pocket. Disgusting!!
It "reveals" them being murderous, barbaric nut jobs. This is old news.
R U referring to Nuns or Muslims !
Muslims just like most of the world think America is so blessed with Gods power that we can and should! do any thing they think they're God say's is right? they're not the first group or the last to blame America for what ever society that they them self's have built. Look its time to bring our kids home from other peoples War's. its just not our job to save the Islamic world or Islamic leaders from the hate they breed. its just not America's job to police every fool religious nut out there! Be he Christian , Jew, Muslim? Heck how big a list do I need to make here? there are just way to many of you believers. Its time to bring our troop's and money home. Its time for America to let the Arab and Muslim World have as much of a fundamental lack of tolerance or extremism as they want! Just keep America blood off your hands and you can build what ever paradise in your country you want. And I promise too never to go your country so you will never be offended. But be sure not to come to America so I won't be offended, See every body's happy.
Seriously, why do we need Islamic people any? And why would the president of the US apologize, makes us look weak.
It reviles organized religions needs to get it together and try not to kill any more people. I'm over all theses core religious killings.
We all should be muslims. This religion is so peaceful...
Fareed is banging drum of "2Billion" US aid here and "20 Billions" there (he asked about that for Pakistan) too much. He needs to educate himself; USA requires such aid to be distributed more than the country. He was expected to give a wise analysis because he belongs to both worlds (East and West). Sad for him; he has not delivered a thing except showing himself whiter than a white-man
We probably should have let Hitler have the middle east? Hahahahahaahahah
haa haaa haaaa u should shut ur month first
You should learn how to spell before opening your garbage mouth you sound ignorant and childish!
If we had let Hitler have the Middle East he would have had the oil he needed to drag the war on indefinitely. As it was his tanks were out of gas towards the end and that immensely helped the Allied effort reach victory. Try not to be such an idiot.
Exactly what I mean! We'd be better off! Hahahahahahahahaha
Hitler having gas for his tanks would not stop the Atomic Bombs that would have been dropped on Germany.
Hitler could have all the oil in Saudia Arabia and he still wouldn't have won the war. He was out manufactured by the US, thanks to the fact that we were safe across the ocean and had the good fortune to not have all of our factories decimated. On D-day, the germans only had a small handful of planes (they'd all been destroyed along with the factories that made new ones), so few that the AA guns were actually pointed at the german ground troops to help the soldiers on the beaches. China has already won the war with the US. They didn't have to destroy our manufacturing base, they just got the greedy capitalists to outsource it.
In one word what makes a good person
Death.
Tolerance.
Christ
american
charity
Love
empathy
In one word what makes a " good Muslim " ??
Indifference
Beer.
Agnosticism.
What makes good person? Love, understanding, caring, tolerance, helping others, creativity.... Intelligence. Open minded. Be able to laugh at yourself. Flexibility, adaptability.
Cherish life. Respect for other views...even jokes.
Joke is just what it is : a joke. They are good jokes..bad jokes...and the ones which hurt feelings. If you do not like it, you do not have to laugh. You might feel upset.....But to kill, destroy for some joke, stupid video? That is really primitive, not intelligent reaction. Killing, terror does not solve a thing. What these killing do to those who kill is that they have no respect from outer world, no one likes them for the killings, destroying. No one can respect them. No one can even like them.
Life is short to spend it in fighting, killing, feeling insulted for many things. No need for wasting time which can be spent in creating, loving, going forward to better life. What killing and destroying give anyone? Nothing good. Nothing. Laughter is healer. Not anger, rage.
Live and let live.
Beer. Makes them pretty, too.
Nothing.
love
Do you see Dear American people how hatred stems from this person.But I have a solution we have to confine these extremists and are working to weaken them and we have to respect all religions ...Signature Muslim must God and the prophets and loves humanity and human resources.
you just may have something there,we sure as heck wouldnt be listening and dying there for the last 60 years and we'd have a whole lot more money
you may be onto something there,we'd have alot less dead soldiers,alot more money,and no 60 year involvement in mideast b s
I've pondered that in the past...
You seem to laugh an awful lot about very serious things.
Note to self: After inventing the time machine, first go back to 700 AD , then 1938, then yesterday for the winning lottery number. Be sure to bring plenty of ammo.
Yup! He had the right idea, just chose the wrong group of people!
Respected Editor Garu,
About, Prophet Mohammad was a Bafoon ....... this type activites U.S. must stop, and When Historical pictures releasing, Before, Film Athoritiers must discuss with Religion Arbiters, and take suggestions and then release the Picture. now some Film Athorities doing Insolence, thats why this was happend
Since Jews doesn't have Oil to pay compensations for Christian and Muslims, we must make them to work for US FREE for 100 Years as penalty.
Thank you for showing us that you have the IQ of a Donkey! That actually may be an inusult to donkeys!
How can you be so extremely arrogent and ignorant at the same time? It was probably an Arab behind the movie to stir.
Obviously you didn't read the article. We don't have to stop these activities in the US because it is our right to say whatever we want. Was the film hateful? Yes. Was it unnecessarily provocative? Yes. Are we going to tell people they can't make films like this anymore because Islamic feelings were hurt? No.
completely agree. Egyptian government needs to teach Egyptians what freedom of speech means.
Absolutely not. Religious arbitrators? Film authority? This is the problem you and your people are having right now. You do not understand that once you give power to a small, biased group of people to determine what kind of speech is acceptable or not, you undermine free speech altogether. You may like being told what is pious by some imam, but I for one will NOT be dictated to by some religious zealot. I don't need some man telling me the manner in which I must express my relationship to God. He is just a man, as am I. My relationship with God is mine and mine alone and neither you, some imam or priest is going to tell me otherwise. And no other man is going to tell me what I can and cannot say or think. When your people reach that level of enlightenment, the world will be a better place for all of us. Until then, I guess you'll keep lashing out like the world's spoiled little brats.
Well said.
I agree with most of what you wrote, though I wish you would have used a more neutral voice but that's not why I'm replying. You missed something important and vital to this issue, and that is the cost of Free Speech. We Americans (and other free democracies) are realizing that cost right now as I write. Just imagine yourself in Gangland America espousing epithets about how Gang-Bangers are a bunch of wussies.
Couldn't have said t better myself. But being an agnostic and humanist, I got ALL the religious whackonauts of the world doggin' me and my kind. In America, we only have to worry about fanatic but tame Christian proslytizers coming to our doors. In the mideast, we'd be quickly killed by the Muslims if we were found out. All we want is to persue our science and chart our own course toward the future apart from these religious zealots.
svpyadav – thats now how things work in this country. We believe in freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Never gonna happen.
from your language it seems you are from the southern part of india. This movie was made by someone who was a buffoon and in the US where people enjoy freedom of speech, any buffoon can create a movie and post it to youtube. even you if you were living in the US can make the movie in your family camcorder and post it to youtube without any consent needed from the government. this is what the world needs to understand. in a free democratic world people dont go to jail for every second offensive thing they say about the government – that is in a way true freedom. but that does not absolve the buffoon who made this movie. in my mind i would definitely want to try this person in court for causing this unrest. please dont blame a country for the action of a buffoon, the same way all muslims should not be blamed for the actions of a few muslims.
What would be the point of the trial? You cannot give people freedom of speech and then take them to trial and punish them when someone gets mad! You are an idiot.
I agree with you, not everybody should be blame for everything, but it seems that Muslim countries are doing exatcly what that movie portrays, matter of fact is, by the actions of few, in some muslim countries will make some Americans watch this movie, so you see, by doing all this the muslim world is giving more power to the film. Another point is, I was a soldier in the US Army and I can say that I've seen the American flag burn numerous of time you don't see us burning any islamic countries or Embasy for that, I have also notice some Muslim countries dont permitt any other religion other than Muslims(what is all that about). To the point, i'm pretty sure most muslims followers dont follow all the coran has to say, so stop making a fool out of yourself and say what we say..."live what you preach".
The film was just an excuse. If that film wasn't made, there would be some other excuse to riot.
Stop all aid
get Americans out and
Launch the Bombers
yes i agree with you they are always looking for a reason to attack america. but when those talabans was killing them they need our help. they say islam is about peace but look at what they are doing. half of them dont even know what they out there going crazy for they just following the radicals. or should i say being told what to do. and now they want the potus to say sorry!!!!!for what he didnt do nothing none of us did anything this was one man who made this movie not all americans.
Svpyadav, this is exactly the misunderstanding. There are no Film Authorities, and there are no Religious Arbiters. In the US any idiot can make an offensive movie and release it without needing any approval from anybody. This is freedom of speech, for better or for worse.
Translation please.
Jews insulted Jesus and Mohammed.
Jews must be prosecuted.
The replies here are retarded. The whole situation can be summed up in one sentence - this is about a lack of education, period. The uneducated are usually impoverished, angry about their plight and want to blame someone. Religious nutbags glom onto people like this and brainwash them into believing their b.s. Then bad weather conditions with hunger, an enraged mood set the stage for the perfect storm.
Islam and Christianity cannot reconcile their incompatibility. I believe 1500+ years of history shows this to be true.
This is about you going over there killing these people & stealing their oil...
Your an idiot. You Jew haters all talk a lot about Jews doing bad things, but the evidence shows the problem is Islam.
Israel is only in combat in Israel or near their borders. Muslims on the other hand are involved in conflicts all over the world, and usually no jews are involved with them.
Jews do not use suicide bombers, or blow up restaurants, or schools (like Beslan). Jews do not behead people for things they say, and they do not kill other people that had nothing to do with images of Muhammed, but muslims do it all the time.
But the Israeli Jews (not other Jews) kicked out hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees (now are 10 million) from their farms, villages, and land. Israel until now refuses to let them come back to their homes. This is one of the biggest injustice in the recent history. Imagine for someone to come to a state like New Jersey and kick out its residence and replace them with another immigrants by force. What a terrible and horrible country?
A video. Do you think that's enough excuse to kill a diplomat and a couple of former Navy Seal team members? If that was OK with you, please let me know.
Sam...america was built on the theft of land...ask britain
"""Your an idiot."""
Gawd, I wish I got a dollar for every one of these ironic m-o-r-o-n-i-c insults. Hurray for Idiocracy!
Sam, after WWII, where were all those displaced Jews going to go? The Palestinians had all their Arabic brothers to lean on.
Jews had to rely on each other.
As for the Palestians, Jews were in Israel first. Palestinians cannot be granted citizenship, because then they'd simply vote Israel out of existence. They want a homeland? They have one, but all they used it for was for terrorism until the walls were built around them.
@Sharia. Perhaps you should go ask the native americans first.
I am an idiot.
I am an idiot.
I am an idiot.
Well said
Why with the tensions in the world the way they are, would someone create a video like this. Free speech is one thing and people have their rights with it, however be responsible with it. I do not like the video nor appreciate it, if someone wants to express free speech, be fully aware of the repercussions of what you say. Did the makers of this video realize by doing this they inadvertently were a factor in getting the US ambassadors killed? Neither do I support the backlash from the factions that commit the attacks. There is enough tension in the world today, why do some people feel they need to make more?
Ahhh...the freedom to offend vs the freedom to not be offended/reprisal. Can the two co-exist? And if not, which freedom should be given and which freedom should be withheld?
Thank you, Maggie. I, for one, choose not to be offended by small minded fools.
@kurtinco Oh really? Well, people who respond to films and cartoons, even vicious, small-minded films and cartoons, with violence offend the HELL out of me. Better get them to knock it the F off!
@kurtinco Banning "offensive" speeches is too broad. If that is legislated, we will expect everyone suing everyone for offending him. That just doesn't make sense.
This film was intentionally provacative. The film makers knew that it would provoke a reaction, though maybe not to the extent that it has. It is, however, their right to do so. Followers of Islam need to develop a thicker skin.
No one should ever say anything controversial. if you do, you might offend Mr. Religious Nutbag and his band of retards.
The implication being, apparently, that we should all know that Muslims can't be expected to act any better than violent maniacs who riot and kill at the slightest provocation. I guess the civilized world must sigh patiently once again and continue treating them like little babies who can't control themselves like adults.
I guess extremism is the new reality. This will shield us from the far more horrible reality of actually helping the 1000s of people in Africa that will die today from starvation and lack of clean water.
I have traveled a lot in my life time but what surprises me; is how people around the world perceive Americans to be arrogant and aggressive. Humility to some people is passivity to us. The mere expression of your opinion offends most people around the world. You have to actually explain how we exercise our freedom in the U.S. before saying anything so they could understand why we talk and act the way we do. This is pervasive in Asia and especially in the middle east.....whew. These people hate us because they will never be free like us until the day they die. Thank God I'm an American
That may be true of some but others hate us because they do not see our freedom as good for the group and they do not want it. We each grow up to be comfortable in our own world and when another attempts to force us from that world into their world, we will see those people as evil. In this we are the same...we only understand the world form our own perspective and if we do not start talking at that level and respecting each other at that level...we will never getto the level where we each will have to give up something we do not want to for the greater good of us all.
in one word what makes a good person.
Tolerance, understanding, or empathy.... take one or all of them.
"Good" is relative. There are universal spiritual principles, one or more of which might suffice (such as compassion, empathy, valour, honesty, love). However, there is no singular word that conveys that idea in its entirety, whatever "good" actually means. It would always be subject to interpretation by the reader..
Yes, I thank God that I am an American to !
And like many Americans, you cannot spell.
muslims are protesting in nigeria over film acted by americans in america. see wahala o!
The internet is the wild west with everything free game. Why is this silly video any different lol. The video was an excuse for the violence not the cause.. The embassy attack was obviously planned way before july and didnt just happen to fall on 9 11. As long as theres al quaeda these unfortunate happenings will keep occurring.
Too true.
These kinds of actions and misunderstandings are not unique to Islam. Christians, Jews, and many others of faith will continue to act out like this because they have completely abandoned logic and reason. You can either be religious, or you can be reasonable, but you can never be both.
Best reply I have read so far! You are right! You cannot be religious and reasonable at the same time!
Reminds me of a "christian" who published a bunch of lies about Obama on Facebook on the 9/11 anniversary. She said that he was the anti-Christ planted here by Muslims. I had to unfriend her. I don't claim anyone that extreme or stupid as a friend of mine.
Well aren't you special. If you were any bit self-aware, you would not have friended her in the first place!
Ah, why couldn't we have more Stalins in the world. That man was anti-religious and a bastion of reasonableness.
And don't forget Nobel laureate Pol Pot.
Totally untrue. The Passion of the Christ –> some protests but no deaths
South Park's Mormon episode and musical 'The Book of Mormons' –> award nominations; no deaths
Monty Python's Life of Brian –> Attempts to ban movie by Vatican; no deaths
'Hey, I sneezed and it looks like Mohammad!' –> Rampaging hordes shouting 'Death to America'; most deaths among muslims plus one random hankerchief salesman.
what bothers me is they say islam is about peace. well whats so peaceful about what they are doing. yes they always looking for a reason to act like a animal. this hole thing is crazy and stupied. this is a free country and they know this thats why they are flocking to get in this country.
"You can either be religious, or you can be reasonable, but you can never be both."
That's a generalization. That's stereotypical. And people accuse Christians every day of being narrow minded and intolerant. Why is it okay and sometimes even encouraged to trash Christianity, but as soon as a Christian states their point of view they're ridiculed? I understand you were referencing any religion, not just Christianity. I'm simply providing a more specific situation here. You are being unreasonable by making such statements.
Many people of religion can be reasonble T. It takes someone of a much higher character than you seem to have.
Islam = IngSoc (ref: George Orwell's 1984)
An excuse to kill, destroy and hate. They are fulfilling the stereotypes that people in the west have about Muslims, and the fact that they want to blame and entire nation on what one crazy ex-con has done, really shows their ignorance. Cut off their money, let China become the new Super Power and see what happens when they burn Imperial China's Embassy. I don't think they would be as nice. It is too easy for people in the Middle East to blame the US for the problems, they sure aren't going to blame themselves.
A few hundred people, here and there?
A few thousand people in 4 or 5 countries each.
How many people have to die before we admit that the real issue is Islam.
If you tell people it's okay to kill over and insult to religion, people are going to kill over an insult to religion.
In one word what makes a good person. http://www.change-this-world.com
Let's not forget the Crusades.....violence in the name of religion.
Yes, let us not forget to mention how people thought hundreds of years ago.
Listen dimwit, the free world has changed over these hundreds of years, why is islam still in the stone age?
Ah, yes, the crusades... which started as a campaign to regain (sic) control of Palestine after Jerusalem was being occupied by Muslims. Muslims at that time were not sitting around, merrily doing nothing, and then getting slaughtered by evil Europeans as it is often depicted. Both the crusades and the (forceful) expansion of Islam were actions to gain or regain control, geopolitically and religiously. I am starting to get tired of 'evil crusader' stories. The expansion of Islam was taking place at the same time, and I am sure the Spanish and Portuguese for example were terribly excited to get occupied by peace-loving people.
The real issue is religion.
Specifically Islam.
"Well, I think it's fair to say that there is a kind of extremism and a lack of kind of an understanding of freedom of speech and opinion" If the movie, which is in question is freedom of speech then you don't understand the basics of freedom of speech?
OK...Cultures surrounded by geoligical and geopolitical boundaries are no longer restricted to Geographical areas. People move about across the world daily from one culture to another. Opposing ideas, philorophies, governing/control systems stream through the open air and clash -offend, attack, criticize, belittle... So, a changing world and technologies are employed and we are not capable of handling the results because we never saw this coming. We simply thought everything would 'get better' or 'be better'. I hate to say it but what we are seeing is simple human nature/behavior.
Anyone who has been a parent has been here: two children fighting and each one is right and the other wrong. Parent either punishes one and lets other off or allows them to fight it out or punishes both equally or sends each to their own room. There is no more retreating...there are no more rooms...one person can create a world issue. So, there are no parents in the room...Unless one wishes to look upon the UN as the parent- and if they do, then they only have the power to allow us to fight. I'll put it this way...let's attempt to have everyone here come to an agreement on how to act in this comment area today and I bet it will not happen so why expect it to happen world wide?
Can I comment. The decissions that you and others have made in their lives are they a habit or a code you live by. If it is a habit you are not a good person and if it is a code you live by you are thinking before you speak. In one word what makes a good person.
I am asking myself why in the name of God would you create a film list this. What was this person thinking in the first place. Nothing good has come out of this at all. There are people who are always looking for excuses to show more hate to the United States WELL LOOK HERE now you have given it to them. Now the US government is trying to find ways to clean up your trash that you have created. Man I hope you feel great and can sleep at night.
They kill our Ambassador, burn our embassy, burn German and U.K. embassies, threaten NON combatants, and here is how we will respond:
[1] we will APOLOGIZE for our freedom of speech, press, and religion
[2] we will APOLOGIZE for being American, and upholding release of CARTOONS and MOVIES in OUR locations.
[3] we will start to copy France, U,K. and Canada....and start PROSECUTING such media...thereby BYPASSING our own rights just so we can PANDER to Muslims.
....ALL of this will be in the name of pandering to Muslims...the same people that PUBLICLY hang gays, stone women, and threaten "infidels"
We have become a SHADOW of our former selves.
As you indicate, our government no longer represents us. What to do?
You're a nutjob. Nobody has apologized for anything.
Obama and the Dims have been apologizing about america for the last 3 years! ...it would do you some good to get out of mom and dod's basement once in awhile!
the State Department (Billiary) did in fact issue an apology for the movie. Let's do what we always do. Throw more money at them an apologize for being American. It's what our government does best.
We will not and SHOULD NOT apologize! We did nothing wrong. Obama did NOTHING WRONG! Our country did NOTHING WRONG.
I get your sarcasm, but the fact that this article even mentions it is repulsive!
Remember your right END were the right of others BEGINS don't be obtuse and pretend that you are right and every one else is not...
First off, WE DID NOT APOLOGIZE. So get off your talking points. Freedom of speech comes with a price. When it is threatened we must defend it, and when that free speech causes actions such as this violence, we must rise above and not stoop to the same behavior we find unacceptable. Just as this crackpot who made the movie doesn't speak for all Americans, the people protesting don't represent all muslims. We should focus on bringing to justice the people that actually harmed us, and not condemn an entire religion or country. If we lash out for blind revenge, and in so doing limit certain peoples freedom of religion and free speech then we all lose, and show the world we do not deserve these freedoms.
The US Embassy apologized for the movie that caused the attack. Of course the attack was not caused by the movie. This attack was planned and the State Department received warnings weeks ago. Further, the movie has posted months ago. As for the apology, it came from the Obama appointed US Embassy. That makes it a talking point. Obama did not come out and say they were wrong. An American makes no apology for free speech no matter how unfortunately offensive it is. The only apologies that need to be said should come from the leaders of Libya, Egypt and any other country that do not stand against the violence against people who have different beliefs than those of the radical Muslim idiots.
@ Get Real, you chose not to acknowledge the facts. The embassy's sources on the ground informed them that this movie was causing unrest, and they released the statement BEFORE the attack in an attempt to defuse the situation. Obama administration said the statement wasn't cleared by them. So since there was NO apology by Obama, and since Romney has been trying to spin this "Obama apologizes" line of BS before these attacks, its a talking point. Romney is a child playing at a man's game, and his handling of the situation makes him possibly the most dangerous person ever to run for office.
matt did Bush say sorry for starting all this mess.
Bush didn't start this; don't be so ignorant. The issue is Islam. The US has fought Muslim terrorists since the Barbary Wars – or are you going to blame those on Bush, too?
Interesting and ignorant slam on Canada. Did you know Canada kicked out all Iranian diplomats last week, and closed the embassy in Tehran?
DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO BYPASS YOUR RIGHTS OF FREE SPEECH, PRESS, OR RELIGION IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY. IF MUSLIMS DON'T LIKE IT....TOO BAD. DEAL WITH IT.
What is wrong with people in the Middle East? I'm thinking the sand and heat have fried their brains or something.
If that was the case you were right, but it's not, the problem is that the west is rubbing the exuberant way of life in america and to make matter worst they are insulted in many ways and that is not axceptable.If you were in on that side of the fence you would feel the same way.they have being in that part of the world for many year and survived, i doubted that the west would have that resilience..
Just because you are not a believer of anything that don't make you right, If you are called by quantify and or qualify e.t. fat/idiot/obtuse/or just some one sostain a look on you or our spouse, right there and now you claim the right to call the cop and accuse of stalking or been insulted by the other party. why is it that you are better or more right then anyone else????Hypocrite! mind your own business and let the world do whatever they want with their live....STOP ANTIGONIZING THE WORLD. AND MOST OF THIS INSANITY WILL STOP....
What are youbabbling about?
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Everyone can explain and talk about the film that caused be death of the ambassador and storming of embassies in the Arab world and about free speech and dissent. Basically this was a hate crime by the filmmaker. He thought about this and planned it. He should be arrested on hate crimes against humanity and imprisoned. Brenda Wilson
So you think its ok to imprision this guy for expressing himself ...its ok for only some to have freedom of speech but not others? If somewhere in the world someone takes offense to your comment and says this person hates freedom of speech and should be put in jail should you go to jail? We live in America we are guaranteed freedom of speech ..he didnt bomb anyone he didnt kill anyone and he didnt storm anyones embassys...on the other hand extremist did do all those things and where are the muslims shouting out no we are not like that why arent they turning in the ones who are? i will tell you why because deep down they all believe if you dont see it there way then you are infedel and need to convert or..... so before you talk about trashing a persons basic rights really think about what you are implying...freedom of speech isnt just for the popular ideas it is for all ideas and its what makes our country different....I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN and so should you be...its ok to disagree with each other what sets us apart from other countries is we encourage and accept that we are not all cookie cutter robots
You are missing the whole point of this situation. Free speech allows people to speak unpopular ideas through words, speech, movies, even if it bums other people out. Get it? If you want censorship, move to another country that offers that for you. Like Iran. Or Iraq. Or Afghanistan.
Freedom of speech can only be expressed if the other party is in FRONT OF YOU ...is you don't have the COJONES to face the other side then you pack your pile of B.S. and go home and download at your family...it's that simple...
With that logic, your post is a hate crime. And now mine. I'm furious that I wrote it.
Folks, nothing is absolute. Free speech and freedom only work because we each take responsibility for our words and our actions. You don't get to accept half of it without the other saying "I have the right..." without taking the responsibility.
Here's what he did. He ran into a crowded theatre, yelled "FIRE!" and watched the ensuing chaos... He did this on purpose. In this day, given the tragedy in Colorado, what would any reasonable person think would happen if you did that. I'll tell you, chaos, panic, a stampede with people getting hurt or possibly dying. In our country, if a person yells FIRE in a movie theatre, he's prosecuted because he directly caused the mayem... or death that followed. Sure, he had the freedom to say it, but he's RESPONSIBLE for the results. This person is no different. Take responsibility for your actions. For your safety, for your words. We only stay free by paying for it. The same for these countries that don't understand freedom. There is no defence for what they have done and we MUST protect our country-men... Understanding the consequences of an action isn't aplogizing for it, it's the first step in protecting our treasures.
People keep trying to get that 'shouting "fire"' analogy to work, but it just doesn't apply.
It would be closer to say that he walked into a theater, said "This movie sucks", and then the audience rioted and killed the usher.
You are 100% RIGHT..and on less the culture changes in the west it will not be return to civility. wend people frame of mind is that 5 minute of fame or money at any cost ...
you are so wrong.
I think the movie was only the trigger.
We're paying again a heavy price for our blind support to Israel.
BS, this event was created by muslims. Just because the ignorant, undeducated masses followed their imams or mullahs has nothing to do with anyone's freedome of speach.
Freedom of speech with the person in FRONT of you ,Not on the internet/not by phone/not by mail /and not by drones....
Wrong. We're paying the price for the deliberate actions of a Coptic Christian from Egypt and a Fundie Christian from California.
It takes lot of brass to say that but you are right....
The USA and Israel are friends, close friends.
Your lies will not change that ever.
Get over it and put your house in order.
Um no. Imagine if Israel did not exist. They'd still be after us. You just don't get it. We are INFIDELS and throughout history, from which they have not evolved, they have been after all infidels. And they would be here. Believe me, if Israel did not exist, they'd still be the violent freaks they have always been. Look what's happening in Syria et alii. You wanna blame that on Israel too?
matt .. you are so right. unfortunately having a muslim sympathizer in the white house will do nothing to help the situation. obama is apologizing for us – not standing up for us. he needs to go and hopefuly in november he will be gone, we need a president with leadership skills not a president with a socialist agenda. that has not worked in europe and it will not work here.
Am I missing something? I don't think there has been an apology of any sort given.
FireTurd, you're full of horse feathers! Obama is not a muslim sympathizer. You hate him because he's black and you're a racist.
I find it funny that in the months leading up to the last Presidential election, Obama's opponents were railing at him for the type of Christian views he had because of his attendance at Rev. Wright's church. Now he is called a Muslim. If he is, then he's the worst Muslim of all time because he regularly and solely makes the decisions on which extremists will be killed by drone attacks. So which is it? You can't have it both ways.
I can't believe that you wrote that, you surely are a fool expressing his or her right to free speech.
he did not apologize. in fact he told the egyption leader that the us is not an ally of egypt
i think i am missing something too cause he did say nothing yall must be a Republican hating on the potus. stop trying to stab our potus in the back and stand with the man. we are not show unity instead you are acting like them. its a***holes like yall that make a*****hole like them think they can play us all the time. so show some back bone and support your president
I think the movie was only the trigger.
We're paying again a heavy price for our blind support to Israel.
You are right.
BS no jew had anything to do with this muslim created event.
Lies, lies, lies...
Israel is the only friend we have in there
Oh yeah lets stop supporting Israel who has been fighting off terrorist for us...and lets keep supporting Egypt who protest against us...Oh and FYI: Terroist call America the 'BIG SATAN,' AND ISRAEL THE 'LITTLE SATAN' so it goes to prove they hate us more then Israel...and they hate Israel because they support us....
wow, blind support of Israel, the only ally that fights for us, yeah lets drop our support for them and then let see what happens.
Right. You wanna blame Syria on Israel too? And how about the German embassy? I didn't know Germany supported Israel. Wow. You're really a desperate anti-semite. Israel is our only friend over there and you are an anti-American fool to think that withdrawing support for Israel now would be a good thing. Iran ring a bell, nutjob? We are infidels. Always have been (to the muslims) and always will be. WAKE UP before a nuclear Iran is our reality. If you thionk 9/11 was a shock......holy crap a nuclear Iran. And that;s what's next. Israel or no Israel.
Anyone with a brain knew several months ago that the Arab spring was brining radical elements into power. Wake up America, there are more important things that American Idol!
X Factor. Brittany looked good.
how did those brittany stalkers make on to the stage?
Dave,
You strongly imply that more important things than American Idol are afoot in the news (and, by extension, in the community of civilized nations). Really? Might you have meant that more pressing and volatile issues than American Idol are afoot (no question mark). American Idol represents a search for, and an attempt to develop, promising human potential that is latent in a sea of the ordinary; it's what we Americans do; it's our passion–we develop human potential.
Compare America's uplifting passion to find and to develop human potential (of Americans and of foreigners, alike–just consider the demographics of our graduate schools) to the Middle-East's unquenchable hatred and rage (and, I suspect, self-loathing), all of which aims to defeat human potential domestically and abroad.
Which, then, is the more important, news of the reactionary and destructive ignorance so ubiquitous in the Middle East, or the continued development of human potential so clearly evident in America and visible to the rest of the world as a beacon and model?
It is okay to use the term 'slam dunk' in your honest response.
Peter
Has any checked their history books lately? This is but a continuation of a story that started long ago.....the invasion of Spain by Islam and the destruction of the Byzantine Empire by the same.
And how about the Crusades?
Rules...rules...rules. Watching different countries with different rules for living is like watching one team play soccer, another team play rugby, another football and still another baseball at the same time on the same field. Until they all adopt a similar set of rules that satisfy everyone, I would imagine it might be pretty chaotic...and fun to watch if you are far enough away but expaling the rules to someone sitting next to you might be frustrating..
So I can just take my $100.00 POS camera into my backyard,get a few GI Joes, paint a beard on one of them, call him mohammed,have the 3 others bend him over {like in "Team America"), spout a few jokes about it, spend an hour or two translating the text into arabic,post it on Youtube and cause riots all over the world? ($ spent-0, time spent- a few hours at most) Something is SERIOUSLY wrong here!!!!
It is time for the USA to to stop all $ aid to these countries and pull out all of its people. Let these countries live and struggle by themselves , the USA should not allow any immigration into the USA from these countries for 10 yrs. The USA has tried to help these countries in many ways, its time to stop and re-evaluate in 10 yrs. You can do it! they will beg the USA to come back, but let them learn. They are like spoiled children,its time to take the x box away. I understand that this video was provocative, but taking lives over it is wrong.
The world no longer works this way. Hell, it didn't work that way in 1917 when we didn't want to get involved in WWI or in 1941 when we didn't want to get involved in WWII... We can't put our heads in the sand and ignore the rest of the world. We have to deal with it. Unfortunately there are some parts of that world that are much worse than others that we need to work with. As many posters have said in many different ways, the world is much smaller today than it was 100 years ago. We are all in it together.
You are right ,however america it's getting 10 time more in return for every one dollar that invest if you don't believe, ask the thec. industry which BTW communication is creating all this mess (people see and ear watt is going on in the world) and that is very difficult to cover up....
It seems what extremists don't want to understand is it was only one person that made a movie insulting Mohammed. Before the exteremists attacked our embassy very few people heard or wanted to watch this movie. I still don't care about the video. It is a total waste of time, (probably), to watch it. Now, because of their craziness of attacking our embassies and diplomats they've made the guy who made the video really important. Hey, EXTREMISTS, NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS GUY BUT YOU. He's an idiot. You're idiots by reacting to an idiot. Guess what? Mohammed iprobably sn't even looking down from heaven caring about this 'insult' from an idiot. Why, because Mohammed was NOT an idiot. Mohammed was smart. I bet he doesn't care about this. You do. Consider this before you overreact to the next idiot that makes a stupid film.
All I am asking is that everyone involved to ask a question of themselves and of others. "In one word what makes a good person". With the answer you have found please do it and when it is needed please do the opposite of that word. Also if you are not able to think of a word that discribes a good person you are showing that you are not a good person.
Death. Every person has within them the potential for violence. There is no such thing as a truly selfless person. The only way for a person to be truly good is to eliminate the potential for evil. For that they must be dead. So, my word is death.
Time to put the bong pipe down dude and take a breath of fresh air...
CNN PLEASE start reporting the facts of this situation. An egyptian family bank rolled this film which was made by an Egyptian living in California! This isn't an American film!!! Why is the media so blatantly spinning this story. We will never have peace as long as the media continues to fill the world with lies! Further, we have to stop believing that Isalm is "the same" as every other religion on the planet. It isn't! Again, just because CNN and NYT deem Islam a peaceful religion doesn't make it so. Do any journalists in this nation ever take a history class? Islam has been at war with everyone who doesn't follow Muhammed for 1300 years. The main tool for conversion and lock step adherence has been the sword under the governments control whenever possible.
yes you right they always say jislam is about peace but they always trying to blow some thing or some one up. and yes the media need to stop showing this story of they want to act like anger people cause of a movie them let them keep it over there in their country. this is america
biaskiller. tips for fair protest the movie
here tips for a fair protest the movie
1. avoid any violence, it never works.
2. close all google + accounts until youtube appologize
3. Avoid buying Android phones until youtube appologize
4. limit use of Google apps in your country until youtube appologize
5. never be a part of provocation, you are just abused if you do so be clever
6 tell people why you are insulted with the movie in a polite way in all platforms
7. use social media to spread your beliefs.
8. do not care people`s comments in favour of movie, you do not need to make everybody believe in the same way.
9. Focus on your work, do not waste your time by just keep talking, only guilty people talk much.
10. Ask, Allah, God, Lord, to lead everbody to peace and justice.
All of those might be effective except #10.
I really hope you know that Google owns Google+, Youtube, and the Andriod operating system.
What happen at US embassy in Libya is horrific and wrong -Period. Saying that anti-islam movie/trailer represent freedom of speech is" NOT ACCEPTABLE" because there are lots things that not allowed even in Democratic countries with freedom of speech including (US).EVEN DEMOCRACY HAS ITS LIMITS. Anyone who justifies this movies on the basis of freedom of speech had,has /have hidden agenda"s.Right from the start of this movie the evil intention and twisted ways existed. "The freedom of speech" response will and should be"UNACCEPTABLE" PERIOD. Peace
the challenge is msm and liberal academics, all assumed because they used twitter and facebook, and like ipads, they want to be just like us.They interview and talk to people who seem just like them. The islamic fundamentalist have been consistently clear for 11 years . They dont want women's rights or free speech or trial by jury. They want 3rd century justice and society. Make no mistake about it.. they have no goal and desire to be part of a western culture. Egypt chose the muslim brotherhood in a free election after years of oppression. Not the egyptian version of the democratic party. They view america as weak, decadent, and unwilling to act.
I know what I learned. There are alot of bored wackos in the Muslim countries. Noone will convince me that these subhumans are all angry because of a lousy film.
You are right...it wasn't a film it was obama and this is all of his fault.
Lets give them what they want ! Take our money and our troops and whatever else is ours and bring it back home.we need it more anyway
kyes we should they already poor enough is enough. they not as peaceful as they say islam is
Go ahead and tear up your own country to get back at us . This shows they are baffoons!
i agree just dont bring this mess into our free country that they trying to get in. all this is is a hot mess and adumb reason to act like a fool half of them dont even know why they rioting
"signs of a fundamental problem within Arab societies, a fundamental lack of tolerance and an extremism"
C'mon, Fareed. "Arab societies"? That doesn't explain the riots in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indonesia, or any of the other non-Arab, predominately Muslim countries that have flared up.
Agreed, Rich.
The protests reveal the absolute void of leadership that defines the POTUS! It also reveals the moral decay and bankruptcy of Islamic radicals knowing that the "radicals" are main stream Islam.
How do the protests have anything to do with Obama? He didn't make the film. He didn't stir up the protests. Stop drinking Fox News' Kool-Aid.
stop putting everything on the potus he didnt do nothing he didnt make the movie cant you find some else to blame like the persident before Obama. dam all you Republicans can do is hate. those muslams see this and think they can do it to cause of people like you. stand with you president and stop stabing him in the back. did Bush do anything better. yes he ran the hell out of her cause were he at he started allthis crazy crap
Yes, the GOP will blame EVERYTHING on Obama. They learned well from the Democrats putting the blame for EVERYTHING on Bush.
Both parties are useless.
I just wonder where the Christian extremists are looking? The other way? Put another cheek out for the beating?
Gotta call Palin!
I enjoy most of you views. I wish sometimes you would take a stronger stand. The problems in the Middle East are inequality, poverty, lack of freedom and good government. Obama needs to take a stronger stand as well. Instead of giving our hard earned tax dollars for various military or government aid, maybe we should invest in more informational sources the Middle East can relate to and share our views of freedom and what they could achieve with it. This relates to my favorite comment in your above editorial "The way you counter bad speech is with good speech."
Islam is going through the dark ages, holding on to antiquated ideas resulting in a dangerous World. It has not kept up with the times. The proof of which is prevalent in most Islamic regimes, backwards in social equality and human rights. The fundamentalist Islamic zealots fail to understand that here in America we respect the Freedom of Speech, no matter how distasteful ,offensive or contrary to popular belief it may be. We do not loose a head or a limb to exercise our fundamental rights.
Its a travesty what happened in Libya? It was not too long ago we were helping the country liberate from a totalitarian regime. How quickly do we forget – ingrates!
So Qathafi and his crazy ideas were Islamic state. Muslim world went into darkness when Muslims became ignorant of their religion. There are lots of misinformation about Islam. I invite you to read about Islam and it's history from unbiased sources.
If if if. The best if is if mankind is fit to inherit the Earth. The doubts are in.
The issue is not of religion.
This is merely an excuse or explanation as to "why" this is occurring. An admittedly ignorant reason.
The reactions seen in Libya (more like coordinated attacks) are that of a childish, petulant little culture. One of oppression. One of subjugation of all under a caliphate and of leadership by use of force and terror, hiding behind a veil (pun intended) of a religion. A culture truly hateful of women's rights (Democrats please explain your support of Islam given the misogynistic nature of the belief)
Tolerance is not a feature of the culture. Free speech is blasphemy. It is wholly incompatible with western culture. It is devoid of any redeeming feature as practiced by these fundamentalists.
To imply in any way shape or form that any movie or cartoon is somehow to be apologized for or is a valid justification for the actions of these dogs is so absurd, so suspect that it either defines the total weakness of the current administration (at least) or points to a willingness to cause this country to kneel at the foot of these animals (at best). And make no mistake these folks who would do this are sub human. Depraved actions as the true meter of this fact.
So I submit to the readers, IF the religion was created in the approximate year of 605AD., then it could perhaps be explained that the culture is 600+ years behind the rest of the world. Therefore, the barbarism of the current culture is still living in the middle ages and have not made a leap of thought to see the world for what it is.
And that is not to say the world is American in thought. It's to say it is NOT this crap culture/religion we are told is Islam today.
To wit, when was the last time Christians stormed an embassy and killed people over a perceived religious slight? About 600 years ago is the answer. We have even seen a "modern art" exhibit of Jesus in urine. No one died as a consequence. The world is dumber for having these idiots in it.
And the media will turn one day and find all the things it holds sacred will be the first things to be ripped from them if these animals were to gain in greater power. Please think hard about your participation in your own downfall. Just give us facts – not opinion.
GO USA!!!!!!!!!!
Wrong. The issue is religion – and it always has been. The vast majority of violence perpetrated in the world was and is done in the name of religion. Even if religion were to disappear, violence wouldn't completely because it is inherent to human nature. There would, however, be a steep decline.
Such a foolish and stupid statement, unsupported by history, even recent history. Educate yourself on Lenin/Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Rwanda, WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, Desert Storm, Civil War, French Revolution, Attila the Hun, etc, etc. The causes of very few wars, genocide, and violence can be attributable to religion. Smoke on, dude.
You said it yourself it's human nature. To blame religion is truly a basic level of understanding of human nature.
We don't have human nature as a consequence of religion. Rather, we have religion as a direct response to human nature. It explains the unexplainable, finds safe harbor for insecurities and fear. This is the nature of "religion"
Therefore, it becomes an excuse to act out of fear and ignorance in some "holy" capacity so as to justify the actions of leadership. Actions which permeate politics, power and wealth no piety.
This holds true for any religion. It serves a basic need. THIS however, is not the issue about which we are discussing in these posts. The issue IS, whether or not a person or group is using "religion" for political gain when in fact it is for another reason not so easily used as justification. So then, religion merely becomes a tool and not the root cause. Root cause is ignorance, lack of education, poverty – not religion.
@LolDems – It seems that you are the one in need of a history lesson, so I will provide you with one. Let's go down the list:
Lenin/Stalin – Much of the violence that took place during the Soviet revolution was because of the eradication of religion, thought by Marxists to be the "opiate of the masses" and an obstruction to a communist utopia. Years of abuses in the name of religion up to that point fomented this belief and the backlash. Logic follows that if religious practices hadn't been in place, much of the violence would have been averted.
Pol Pot (Khmer Rouge) and Mao Zedong – Same basic answer as above. No religion, less violence.
Rwanda – I suggest you read "Christianity and Genocide in Rwanda" by Timothy Longman. In it he explains how the switching of Protestant and Catholic support between the Tutsis and Hutus during the withdrawal of colonialization exacerbated tensions between the tribes and granted permission for genocide on a moral basis.
WWI – The roots of WWI are based in colonialism and the need for the western world to pick up "the White Man's burden" and carry Christianity to the unwashed heathen nations of the world. Furthermore, it is very likely that the US would not have even participated in the war had it not been for Christian activism in the US.
WWII – Genocide against the Jews by a self-proclaimed Christian dictator doing "God's work". Need I say more?
Korean War – See Lenin/Stalin above.
Vietnam War – See Lenin/Stalin above. Furthermore, the spread of communism in South Vietnam was helped immensely by the actions of Catholic president Diem to suppress Buddhism.
Desert Storm – One of the main reason's Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait was for natural resources to support ongoing hostilities between Sunni Iraq and Shiite Iran. Furthermore, Saddam called for jihad against the US when military support was given to Kuwait.
Civil War – Slavery was based on the Bible. Look it up.
French Revolution – A major issue during the French Revolution was the role that the Catholic Church played in the monarchy.
Attila the Hun – I'll give you this one because I don't know much about him.
WWI was not started over religion, WWII was not started over religion, Vietnam was not over religion, The War of Independance was not over religion, The civil war was not over religion......what was your point???
I refer you to my last comment.
What have reactions been in other countries where Islam has a high population (i.e. Indonesia, Bangladesh, etc.) We don't see the same type of reaction to these things from them. How can we say its tied to Islam when there aren't a combined ~200 million people (or even a smaller number of "extremists" from these countries) rioting in these countries, who represent some of the highest numbers of Muslims in the world? Clearly the discussion needs to be around the infrastructures, culture, and histories of Egypt, of Libya, etc. to find the root of these problems. Just something to think about
No MNice. The difference is the Muslim Brotherhood. Where they are you will find AQ.
The Egyptians voted them in. Military is holding – but for how long?
It takes a few "extremists" to create enough of an issue in each country as to have a full on crisis which leads to a regional conflict. Remember Gulf War I?
It wold be better to call it a few crazies and not report on it anymore. Shut it down and when there is no coverage everyone will just go home. Their in as much of a ratings war as the networks.
But apologizing, or excusing actions by "culture" between countries is crazy.
If anything, the Egyptian culture is one of the oldest – Where monotheism really took hold. It should be expressive of a more evolved thought than falling backwards with the MB.
At one time, Alexandria had global class education and cultural heritage. It was a balance to regional craziness by being stable (albeit under an iron fist). It kept the peace – big sticks and soft steps. Today it is volatile and fractured.
I probably should have typed more. I DO NOT THINK Obama should apologize or we should be held responsible for all this. Overall I just think it is a shame that the broader, level-headed Muslim world doesn't do more outspoken positive things when riots ans killings like this occur. That's maybe the way I should have gone, StartFacingTheTruth.
Here is what I think. People in these countries that have the protests are not very understanding of our right to freedom of speech. What they do over there is their business. However, when they start torching embassies, it makes them look like the un-educated fools they are! We certainly don't behave like this towards other muslims in the United States! If we have a problem with muslims, we talk about it and try to resolve our differences. We don't go burning mosques to make our point that we're upset. You have to wonder why these people(muslims) in other countries prevent their own women from getting an education or driving. We are all human. All humans have the right to do as they please. Religion, whether or not it is fanatic or extremist, do not have a place in society if the supress their own followers into believing that they can't do this or that. Stating ones' opinion is a right everyone has. We understand that the lack of education about countries with democracies is a stumbling block for people who have not gone to school to be educated about listening to each other without blowing the issue out of proportion! Just my 2 cents.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/reports-of-people-shot-at-sikh-temple-in-oak-creek-qc6cgc0-165059506.html
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/06/mosque_burned_in_joplin_another_hate_crime/
don't think this doesn't happen here.
Most of them don't even read or write.
Extremist Muslims are whacked – period. In one of the answers given – he says to make a movie that idolized the Prophet. Sorry, truth hurts sometimes. Have the extremist make a movie rather than kill people for once. Can't fix stupid.
Don't ever assume any Muslim is tolerant of another faith.........they are not.
It'a a mob mentality that you cannot reason with. Hate gives birth to hate and violence and war. Love gives birth to love and freedom and peace. Pray this evil is quashed by the enlightenment that comes with diversity, understanding, empathy and compassion. If this doesn't end soon it may rise exponentially. Think Peace. ~♥
Welcome to Fantasy Island!
The muslims depicted in this article are guillible, mindless, and just plain animalistic. See very little in the way of redeeming qualities.
"What we have here is a failure to communicate." And we will for about the next 25 years or until the social media goes everywhere. But then the governments will step in and ban or jam the phones that effect their control. At some point the masks of religion will fall by the wayside and the fight over FOOD will dominate the scene. Then it gets real interesting...........
out of all the comments i skimmed this one was the most intriguing, as in i completely agree. on another note. all of you who so blindly agree with this article are retarded, so short sighted. i read 1/4 of the article and already saw the bashing against arabs. none of you have the ability to change your perceptive on things and realize how stupid the united states government is, along with all religion.
You say this without realizing that those quiet arabs are condoning this barbarian reaction by not saying anything. To say I was not there and therefore I am innocent is wrong. If arabs thought that these barbarians were wrong, they should have done something about it.
I think we need to stop giving these fanatical lunatic countries our hard-earned money and invest at HOME where it's sorely needed. See how well they survive without our assistance.
I'll tell you something else. IF people acted like they did over there in the US, they would be shot if they tried to destroy another country's embassy. Just because your "preacher" tells you to do something, doesn't mean you have to do it! Come on people! Wake up and start living in the 21st century instead of the 7th century!!!!
Obviously there is an uderlying anger just waiting to erupt in the oppressed people. Just like a riot in LA after the Rodney King verdict.
Let's not over react just as these protesters have over reacted, but quash the squabble and put an end to it, then go on defeating the terrorist regimes with the partnerships we have gained over the decade. Let not this violence stop the process of democracy spreading to the dictoral countries that has started.
There is nothing wrong with the Muslim religion, just some nuts who are extreme in their dogma, just as the KKK of the Christian religion. The Jews killed anybody who pronounced Christ in the early years. So, not many religions are absolved from historical radicalists that have killed in the name of their religion.
i think you are in the wrong place. there is clearly no use for such a smart, eloquent response in this thread of comments. i'm sorry. i wish knew where to direct you for a thoughtful conversation on the state of the world, but i haven't found it yet.
Time to limit Muslim immigration. It is only part religion. It is in similar part a fascist hate group, no more tolerant than the KKK. If they had their way, women would stay enslaved, secularists, atheists and gays killed..
Your crappy, bullet-riddled, burned out and barren cities will look even worse now. Congratulations animals. I'll be enjoying my freshly mowed grass today.
We should build an electrified fence around all Muslim countries. Cut every contact with them. Let them eat their rocks and their sand. In a couple of hundred thousand years, they may have evolved enough to join the human race.
It is doubtful that muslims will ever join the ranks of the human race.
Yes, because that worked SO WELL in the 20th century with the Soviet Union
Q&A: What the Mideast protests reveal
Absolute and total ignorance & hate.
It is the make racists who are the real terrorists. Americans are taking advantage of their many freedoms to cause chaos. Anyone who abuses freedom should be punished severely!
muslims specifically since they are the worst offenders.
It reveals just how backward a$$ these sheets and sandals are.
every 1 in 5 people on this planet is a muslim. You will find all flavors in it, the real question why are some of them so "frustated". Is it just this single obscure movie ? Time to sit back for a moment and contemplate..
Time to contemplate over, the Kuran tells the muslims to kill all infidels, period.
While clearly the US government did not have to 'approve' the making of this film, which as Fareed pointed out no one has even SEEN or cares to, the real point is that in the west governments do not have to approve or disapprove of its people's actions so long as they do no harm to others. Does an embarrassingly bad-taste film harm anyone? Only if you insist on watching it! Life of Brian is not exactly a positive film about christianity but people didn't hit the streets and kill and bomb over it. Somehow extremists on both sides (and yes I refer to you yahoos who like to use hate terms like towel head, you dickless wonders) have to learn that the world is big enough for everyone to have their own belief systems without having to control the other people's belief systems.
It reveals that they are all barbarians and should be wiped off the face of the earth.
Great logic adolf
Brett Gray, you are wrong. "We don't go burning mosques to make our point" is incorrect. If you take the time to google 'how many US mosques attacked' you will see that there are incidences all over America of places of worship being torched. Get your facts straight before you make such a sweeping statement. Yes I do believe in general the US is more tolerant and less violent towards freedom of choice but please don't assume it can't happen here because it already has. Our extremists are just as ignorant and vicious as the middle east's extremists!!
1. The root of Islam had its beginnings back in the Old Testament times. Abraham sired two sons-one is the father of the Arabs and one is the father of the Jews. They started fighting back then and they still are. It's just that we are in the middle. 2. There was some word out of the WH that they are unsure if the attack in Libya was pre-planned or not. I know that whenever I go out, I carry my RPGL just in case I stumble onto a protest and need to blow something up...NOT! I think it is safe to say that it was planned ahead of time.
Well said!
The Kuran was created in 622 ad, there is no connection to the Jews.
Just because a pedophile lied and stole the connection does not make it true.
What it reveals is that these people are uncivilized idiots and it's time to say NO to religions.
And the President's response – "Hillary, make sure we blame it more on that 6 month old movie trailer and not my community organizer foreign policy of let's be friends." "yes, I know Americans were killed in Lybia and that President Reagan bombed their leader for it, but we must appease our Islam brothers and sisters." "And lastly, Romney has no foreign policy knowledge." Hillary, "More than you did taking office." Americans, "But we just love Obama and his PimpDJ talk. We're still going to vote for him no matter how incompentent he is and how Bernake says that Jobs are a major problem." It's all good!! Says the POTUS.
http://www.aclu.org/maps/map-nationwide-anti-mosque-activity
Check it out; and want to make a bet that the gray areas in the US where there have been no violence towards mosques are because there ARE no mosques in those states?
Humans have a hard time controlling their violent 'I'm right and you're wrong' tendencies. Only the people who spend time WORKING against their own stupidity can hope to rise above. Try it.
The pupils of prophet are revealing the true color of Islam..we see it again and again that the Muslims has zero tolerance against their religion and zero respect to others religion.
SIDb1980, you're absolutely right, we ARE still going to vote for Obama!!
Just proof that there are still fools out there! How's that hopey changey thing working out for ya? Probably pretty good if you're one of the 47%ers!
Sarah Palin, is that you? How is Russia looking these days?
I think that these extremest groups understand the freedom of speach – they use it all of the time to spread their messages. The only difference is that they don't want to hear counter-points to their position. This file causing all of the unrest because they don't agree with the message is not all that different from any video released by extremest groups showing the toture or executions of others to promote their (extremest group) positions. With freedom of speach, you either get offended by anything that doesn't align with your view points, or you attempt to understand the other person's position or view. And just like opinions, everyone has one and many times, those opinions stink in our own opinion.
No I think they only partly understand freedom of speech. If they understood it they would tolerate contrary views without resorting to the machete. To them, the strong must dictate to the weak how to think and act. That is why they view the tolerance in our society as a weakness. They don't understand why we don't crush all dissent, since we have the power to do so.
It reveals the violence in Islam. Since moderates refuse to do anything about it, and most Muslims just turn a blind eye to it, they must support it.
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To President Osama?.(ooops)..i meant OBAMA...!!! ENOUGH is ENOUGH, It is your job as President to save and protect American lives and do something now. DO YOU THINK THIS PROBLEM WILL JUST GO AWAY ON ITS OWN?? Stop Dreaming and Stop being closed-minded. These Muslims have been like this for THOUSANDS OF YEARS, and you can't change them. Stop whining and Stop blaming the Anti-Islamic FILM, They (muslims/moslems) have always been this way even before this Anti-Islamic FILM even existed...Here are the evidence.....
DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM
1. On 6 June 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
2. On 5 September 1972 at the Munich Olympics, 11 athletes were kidnapped and brutally massacred by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
3. On 4 November 1979, the US Embassy in Iran was taken over and 66 Hostages were held captive for 444 Days by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
4. During the 1980's scores of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
5. On 18 April 1983 the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was bombed by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
6. On 23 October 1983 the U.S. Marine Corps. Barracks were blown up and destroyed, killing 241 Marines by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
7. On 12 December 1983 the U.S. Embassy was bombed by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!.
8. On 7 October 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
9. On 14 June 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a US Navy Diver (Robert Dean Stethem) while trying to rescue passengers was tortured and murdered by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
10. On 21 December 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed, killing 259 people on board and 11 on the ground by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
11. On 26 February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed for the “FIRST” time, killing 6 and injuring 1,042 by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
12. On 7 August 1998, the US Embassy in Kenya was bombed Killing 212 and injuring over 4000 by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM!
13. On 7 August 1998, the U.S. Embassy in Tanzania was bombed, killing 11 and injuring 85 by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM!
14. On 12 October 2000, the U.S.S. Cole was blown up killing 17 US Sailors by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
15. On 11 September 2001, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers killing over 3000 Americans by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM.
16. In 2001, the United States began combat operations in Afghanistan with 1,935 dead and 17,025 wounded against DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!.
17.On 23 January 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and BEHEADED by DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWERS of ISLAM!
18. On 5 November 2009, Major Nidal Hasan, a DEVOUT MUSLIM FOLLOWER OF ISLAM killed 13 and wounded another 32 AMERICANS in a Massacre at Fort Hood Texas!
19. On 9 August 2012, an United States Soldier, Army Pfc. Naser Jason, a MUSLIM and DEVOUT FOLLOWER OF ISLAM, was convicted of collecting bomb-making materials for what he told authorities would be a "massive attack" on a Texas restaurant full of AMERICAN SOLDIERS was sentenced Friday to life in prison.
And now we can add the attacks on our Embassy's and the Death of our Ambassador..!! and many more will be added very soon... IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT...
No apologies. It's a time for actiona and show these Barbarians to behave n a civilized world. What is this president doing? Nothing.
What about Timothy McVeigh, a non-Muslim? What about Adolf Hitler, a Catholic? Should we be condemned for their sins too? You are spewing the very poison that fuels the radical Islamist movement. It the same color, merely a different shade of it.
first of all, you aren't on facebook. so don't ask me to "like" something.
second, i'm not going to do the legwork because it will be a good learning experience for you. google "violence in the name of christianity". you'll be able to type up another long list of incidents followed by the phrase "BY DEVOUT CHRISTIANS".
Shout to Obama..no more Muslim refugee in USA. Round all the Muslims and deport them back to their sand countries..these people are the eminent threat in future..
lets round up all the stupid people and ship them to stupid island starting with you
Islam is an immature religion. All other major religions accept criticism, justified or not, and move on. Not Islam. And the rest of the world only pays attention to Islamic temper tantrums because of middle eastern oil. We should find other energy sources that will allow us to leave this terrible part of the world to itself. Islam needs to grow up and become relevant in the world (this means NOT blowing people up because you think you have been insulted), put on your big boy pants and join the 21st century...
"...a few hundred people, here and there..."? And yet they are able to overthrow governments? It also reveals the truth of what a much wiser prophet said..."by their fruits you shall know them". The fruit of Islam is blood, death, oppression, hatred, bigotry...this list could go on. Islam is a religion founded on hatred and thrives on hatred. Again, where are the Islamic "leaders" who decry what has happened; who suggest those Muslims who participate in such things will never see Allah? Time to admit, some wild animals cannot be domesticated. Time to wake up America!
Egyptian President Mursi apologize?! Fareed Zakaria, have you gone completely mad! Why should he apologize? The movie was a poor, American made film about HIS and 1.5 million Muslims all over the world's prophet Mohamed and you want him to apologize? No sir, i totally am with President Mursi on this one! You don't make fun of 1 person's beliefs and expect that person to apologize for the protests that's going on in the Muslim world. My honest opinion and simple solution to all this is that the US government take down that lousy film, totally condemn it, President Obama apologizes to the Muslim world on behalf of the US government for that retarded film, and then the leaders of the Muslim world apologize to the US and will call on its Muslims to leave the US embassies alone. Period. End of Discussion
God you are a moron, Steven.
My comment was for Fareed Zakaria, not you sigh... If I a moron, what does that make you? A headless and gutless idiot for living in a world where you simply can't get your facts straight... Lastly, my ultimate guess is your probably from West Virginia, married your twin sister, and have an inbred son! Did I hit the bullseye there?
the easiest thing would be for muslims to stop checking it out on youtube
اخيرا رأيت شخص يرى بواسطة قلبه وليس بواسطة حقد اسود .Finally I saw a person sees by his heart, not by malice Black.
Steve, I want you to know you and all the American people and all peoples of the world. Peaceful Muslim world, but unfortunately there is a misunderstanding and no mistakes on each side and we have to stop and trapping extremism on all sides.
I want everyone to know that Islam said one person was killed as if he killed all people, the oldest of all sympathy with the family of Ambassador in Benghazi I am sad and my
ستيف اريدك ان تعلم انت وكل الشعب الامريكي وكل شعوب العالم . العالم المسلم مسالم ولكن للاسف هناك سوء تفاهم ويوجد اخطاء من كل جانب وعلينا ان نوقف ومحاصرة التطرف من كل جانب .
اريد من كل شخص ان يعلم ان الاسلام قال من قتل شخص كأنما قتل الناس جميعا ، اقدم كل التعاطف مع عائلة السفير ببنغازى انا واسرتى حزين .
Plain and simple, these thugs are terrorist, murdering innocenrt people, and as such should be treat as terrorist. As long as we, America, sit back and do nothing to protect our citizens in foriegn countries this will continue to happen. It is obivous that if we don't protect our citizens and interest abroad, no one else will. Mr Pres, words are no longer effective, how many more Americans have to die before you do something? The current administration's foriegn policy is all words, and smoke and mirrors, we need to put some teeth back into protecting America. I have always read that the embassy in a foriegn country was the same as soverign land of that country, and that an attack on an embassy was the same as an attack on that country. It's your move Mr. President, protect our foriegn citizens, or bring them home, but not in a body bag, it's to late then.
I think Americans and the West have developed a thick skin over the years. Muslims and the middle east will have to develop this thick skin as well in order to participate in a free world. This won't be the last time such events will take place. Muslims will have to realize that they cannot control what a person says or does about their faith. Only one's self can control how it affects their own faith and beliefs.
It was an Egyptian who made this movie, funded by people in Egypt. Enuff said.
The Arab society at large appears to have little self-knowledge, and even less self-control, and absolutely no emotional intelligence. Their behavior is appalling. They preach and live hatred and intolerance. One of these days their entire society will implode.
We are waiting.
I think President Obama and Hillary Clinton have been correctly clear that they think the movie is reprehensible but the U.S. government had nothing to do with it. They and Zakaria are correct, however, that it is protected as freedom of speech and while peaceful protest (as freedom of speech and the right to assembly) is acceptable, violence is not an appropriate response. Obama and the U.S. embassy in Egypt did not apologize and shouldn't, but, just as we want the foreign leaders to condemn the violence and protect our embassies, we should condemn the content of the movie.
However, Zakaria really misses the overriding point. We have been interfering in the Middle East for years. This has lead to support of repressive governments that violate the rights of their people to protect U.S. interests and access to oil. In many cases, like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the governments supported the U.S. against the will and well-being of their people. This has lead to the resentment of our nation which is exacerbated by events like the Koran burning, the Danish cartoons and this movie.
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Someone help my Muhammed; he is burning in Hell for the murders of Americans in Bengazi. Please send Help.
So...pull Americans out and they can keep killing themselves for stupid reasons. And CNN and keep justifying their actions. And Obama can keep speaking out against the film or drawing or whatever offended Muslims this week. And all will be well here in America.
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Please help my Muhammed Allah. He is burning in Hell for the killing of people. I smell his burning flesh. Please send help.
Mr. Zakaria: the Sunni view of Islam is that one can not make a movie of the life of Muhammed – certainly not by visually portraying him. The point about avoiding images of the Prophet was to direct attention away from the personality and towards the content.
Steve, it was an INDIVIDUAL (and a nutcase Egyptian without any taste for that matter) who made the video, not the US government. Surely you know that. Or do you think the government is responsible for the actions of its citizens? Well, I don't know. In some societies (even capitalist countries like Singapore) the government does inhibit a lot of social behavior. Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea to ban distasteful ads and hate speech. After all, if you deny the Holocaust you could end up in jail. Why the double standards?
The pupils of prophet are revealing the true color of Islam..we see it again and again that the Muslims has zero tolerance against their religion and zero respect to others religion.
hehehe, Americans are hilarious.
Ignorant, Selfish, narrow minded, naive human beings.
Oppressive, greedy, immature, snakelike hypocrites
But its not your fault, it is the Arabs fault, because we exist .
Losers
statements without foundation makes you look quite ignorant.
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its unfortunate you exist and sad you still live in dark ages and go crazy for llittle or no reason.
Shouldn't you be off spreading anit-Sunni / anti-Shiite sectarian hate somewhere?
well you are speaking our language, on our websites, receiving money from our country. You are one of US! Welcome!
Rayyawn,
If it helps I'm a huge fan of Ali, I mean come on, the thriller in Manila, Rumble in the jungle who doesn’t love Ali!
That said, worshiping him as a Prophet is going a little too far, afraid I can’t go there, it’s just not healthy.
With that said, I think we should probably part company, no hard feelings and to prove it, why don’t you drop by in Sunday for some barbecued pork.
OK, hope all goes well, take care…
The World needs to inundate with Muhammed in art until the Muslim world realizes that it's harmless and quits resorting to violence.
No, it would just enrage them and they would keep trying to kill us.
The Coran, their holy book, tells them that there will not be a Caliphate unless there is only muslims on earth.
I cannot believe, in this day and age, people are still killing each other over whose imaginary guy in the sky is the right one.
A lot of the anger in the Middle East is all about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs...Even one of the 9/11/2001 hijackers turn to terrorism because he could not find a job after returning to the middle east with a college degree....The jobs were handed out to friends and managers of company workers...or to foreign laborers that worked for less money...Does that sound familiar to the US Jobs market...
Unemployment in these middle east countries is highest with the young men and women...and they were expecting quick changes in the jobs market after the revolution...quick changes that would create many new jobs for the unemployed..again that sounds familiar to the USA..the OWS protestors were mostly college graduates that had good degrees and thousands in college loans and could not find any jobs....The GOP like to call the OWS protestors bums,,but many had college degrees and wanted jobs..The violence at the protests can from outsiders using the OWS protests as cover to attack store fronts, break windows and start fires...That was not the OWS people...
That is kinda like what happened in Libya..military groups used the protests as cover to get close to the US Embassy and launch a military style attack..Like what was done in Tehran decades ago...Only in Tehran the Iranian government planned and promoted the US embassy attack and in Libya it was Al-Qaeda .....
Muslims don't want Americans to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few. Well this is a two way street. Hey Muslims don't judge all Americans by the actions of ONE person. OK Mr. poopy left hand.
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I am the standard definition of an American. My mother’s Grandparents were full blood Native American. I work 5 to 6 days a week behind a desk. Working my butt off trying to improve my life on a daily basis. My friends are every race and religion. As far as the protests, I understand why they are upset. Personally I love my country, maybe not the politics, but my country. The rights we are giving as US citizens are wonderful in many ways until someone uses them in a hurtful way. They protesters have the right to express themselves and show their frustration they feel over the youtube video. However, violence is never the way. To create violence is to distract from the message and the idea of killing another or destroying property is morally wrong. In my opinion the person or persons that made the youtube video is very closed minded. We are all humans. We all have our differences. We have all grown to accept one another in spite of all out differences. I hope that the protesters understand that the general feeling in the United States is that the youtube video is cruel, hurtful and should have never been made. I truly wish to apologize for the act of one individual that has caused so much harm with idiocy. Please continue protesting and voicing your opinions, but please remember to do it peacefully so that your message is heard loud and clear.
I am saddened that four of our US consulate people were killed, but I don't worry much about ignorant, intolerant people rioting half a world away. What does concern me are the hate-filled comments I read on these pages. Presumably, many of these contributors live right here in the US and have had the opportunity to receive a good education. Why do they hold such intolerant beliefs? Why do some so fervently believe that more indiscriminate, violent retaliation is the right US response?
Living with the most supressive human rights. Yea ! Being a Muslim. 6 billion strong. Awesome. Destroying ur own cities in the name of "him" ! Priceless !!!!!!!! Burn Burn Burn !!!!
heres a nice map showing how one film maker set the stage for riots all around the globe!
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=201645180959880549419.0004c9a894dfb66defab9&msa=0&ie=UTF8&t=m&source=embed&ll=32.10119,42.1875&spn=57.886601,96.503906&z=3
When I see pictures from these chaotic areas, I never see any women. As long as women are oppressed within these cultures, calm and reason will never prevail. Mixing the primitive, tribal mentality of the Muslim culture with modern day weapons, and instant access to opinions they find offensive is a recipe for disaster.
What if the film is historically correct? There were quite a few oddball characters that became influential during their time and beyond. Just speculating.
who cares? Islam needs to be driven from the earth – Time to flatten the middle east once and for all.
Talk is cheap. You got your ass wipped in Iraq and Afghanistan.
that's what you are good for
Then what should the Arab world say to America? Remove all the Americans from there?! LOL! Ignorance is bliss!!!
Every single country in the world (all civilized governments) including all other western countries have laws prohibiting "Hate Speech" in some form. including Canada, UK, Germany France Brazil. etc. United States is the only country which does not. There is a reason for this that unfortunately America has not figured out why.
Because America is still a free country, and in a free nation there is freedom of speech, and when you take that away you are no longer in a free nation. I want to live in a country where you are allowed to say what you want to, even if it offends me.
Prissy, so by your definition is United States the only free country in the world? is canadian not free. is the british and germans not a free people or are they a people who strongly believe in respect for others. or are do we in the US feel our own need to express ourselves out ways morality and respect of others. I understand your argument it is flawed as it fails to address other basic human values which the US (only country) fails to protect and that is the respect of others.
I'm sure that president Obama will be issuing an apology to his people in no time.
It is unfortunate you will be teaching your children that it is ok to disrespect others you do not agree with.
There is a vast difference in expressing your disagreeing of other peoples views without disresprecing or denegrating. It takes a level of sophistaction and intelligence which it appears many do not have
Facts- Who is going to determine whether something is disrespectful or not, the thugs in the streets of the Middle East?
You are an idiot!
Cant wait to see the full movie.
The trailer does look funny.
The U.S. should not be forgiving any countries debt given it's current financial state, especially countries that cannot tolerate our freedom of speech.
I think Egypt has just defined what type of relationship we have. No forgiving of debt and no more foreign aid. End of story.
When I was a child growing up in Oregon on the west coast of the U.S., the teachers in kindergarted taught us many important lessons. Children sometimes say hurtful things to one another, but the kindergarten teachers taught us a simple phrase: "sticks and stones may hurt my bones, but words will never hurt me." Looks like the Muslim world never made it past kindergarten.
Fareed should know. He is after all a muslim but a secular one at that which is a rarity. The protestors in Egypt know that aid is given but no one is fooled by the intentions behind those " aid".
Fareed is secular in writing but is he pretending ? One never knows about these things. I find his writings good but he tends to portray the impression of a " Recent Convert Syndrome" where one becomes or more aptly displays more patriotic or religious towards the converted faith/ country than many who are born to it. Take Bobby Jindal, who converted to Christianity during high school. Do you honestly think he did not know by then that he had political ambitions in this great Christain country ? Oh but then they have to do these things in order to reach, gain and maintain the prominent positions they are in now .
It's not the film stupid! The rage with the treatment of Muslims and overall sentiment of how Islam is under attack is the cause. The film was just the trigger and there will be more triggers. The world must listen to the root cause of the anger of the Muslims worldwide if it wants to establish a peaceful world. More energy is spent on attacking Muslims & Islam rather than make peace with them.
Does the world really expect Muslims to just stay quiet as their faith continues to be attacked? Is that part of "freedom of expression" GOOD for mankind? Does it promote peace?
There's a price to too much freedom. You should never have the freedom to intentionally offend, provoke, or harm others.
When was the last time Muslims provoked other faiths in any similar fashion? Empathize and you shall understand.
Boo hoo! Poor little Muslim feelings were hurt. Give me a break! Islam is the fastest growing religion in world. It needs to grow thicker skin. As for provocation, I'll give you one example: the Buddhas of Bamiyan in Afghanistan were defaced by Taliban Muslims, yet you did not see strikes and murders by the Buddhist population of the world.
You cannot make peace with a rabid animal. If they are not attacking us they are killing each other. Nothing short of their dying will change what they are
Man, that kid in the photo sure showed that pickup truck who was boss. Gotta hand it those rioters; they sure have their priorities straight.
Do not put this on the victims. Perhaps there is truth in what you say, but always, when you hold the knife, the blood is on your hands. These animals killed people who were not responsible for the offence. This is lazyness. If you allow yourself to become enraged to the point that you take a life, then at least have the wisdom to take the life of the persons responsible, not just someone at hand who may resemble or have associations with who was responsible. There was no association between Mr, Stevens and this film. Why is he dead? He is dead because people allowed themselves to anger too quickly, and did not feel like doing the footwork to go after the persons responsible. This was nothing short of a temper tantrum that took 4 lives. It CANNOT be condoned and the only responsability for the 4 deaths so far lay in the hand of the killers.
And no, we do not expect you to stay quiet, but these muslims returned violence for words. THEY escalated the situation. I say something, you say something, fine. I say something, you pick up ak rock and throw it at my head, you have escalated the situation unnecessarily. I say something, 8 armed men attack an embassy in another country, killing 4, that is ridiculous escalation.
We should pull out of the Middle East, stop sending billions in aid and take care of our own citizens. The only true friend is Israel. Protect Israel and let the rest of the Middle East go to hell. In about 100 years there will be no oil left and all they will be able to export is sand castles and or more terrorist's.
How, exactly, is Israel a friend? What have they ever done for us? Israel is the poor bullied kid you make friends with at school because you feel sorry for them, just to find out the reason he keeps getting bullied is because he runs his mouth at kids bigger than him. We would be better off abandoning Israel to its fate.
hahahaha
So you are saying that you are the popular kid?
hahahahahaha
Israel is our front line of defense in that area. They have taken a lot of casualities for just being there
That's Israel's problem. And Isaac, since when do you have to be the popular kid to stick up for someone who is bullied? In case you didn't notice, the US isn't that popular right now.
What I have noticed is that all muzzies lie consistently.
Amniculi
This is not a popularity contest.
This is real life.
The US should definately pull out of the Middle East, They will be dancing in the streets. I wonder why
Amniculi, You can defend this trash as much as you like but they are still trash....
To which trash are you referring? The Muslim community which gets offended and commits murder in the name of the Prophet at the drop of a hat? Or our false-friend Israel which does nothing but provoke its easily excitable neighbors?
Drop Israel too.They are the root cause of all this. Why do you think there's all this hatred for the US.Most times at the UN with resolution after resolution condemning Israel we are the only ones dissenting.
Do you think the world does;nt see this. Our fore fathers said NO PERMANENT ALLIANCES. Period.They are the only country in the mid east with nuclear weapons. Let them take care of themselves.
It reveals that one can turn a decent portion of the middle east into a murderous, hate filled mob with 14 miutes of overdubbed film and a little disinformation regarding its origin. Classic.
The Muslims dont need freedom to kill people Mr Abzman. Islam is offensive
These Islamist lost their right to be regarded as people as they murder and destroy non Islamist. Do they or their leaders remember the Arab Spring?? Nope. Just more American treasury wasted on non-humans. Get us out of their and take our money with us. Let the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians support these non-humans ....
"Non-humans" huh? Sounds like you would have been right at home in Nazi Germany circa 1939.
Just stating a fact of what they have evolved into...
Nope, this is purely human. You don't see animals acting like this.
or anywhere in the muslim world today!
Remember the Ottoman Empire backed Germany in WWII
You mean WWI. The Ottoman Empire no longer existed by WWII.
And as long as we're on the topic of irrelevant history, let's not let those dang Hapsburgs off the hook!
Off the hook? Is that a jibe about their chins or their noses?
What the heck are you talking about PoundAround?
@Amniculi
After so many generations of inbreeding, the Hapsburgs developed very distinctive chins (the Hapsburg chin) and noses.
Huh! Learn something new every day...
Ugh! Me not like YouTube video! Me burn truck! Uuuuuugggghh!!!!
When I read these comments I can see why we are in the shape we are in. This country used to have values and moral standards for the most part. All this crap from the 60's of be free, be your own person, live life on your own terms and no one is gonna tell me what to do has ended up producing this moral cesspool that we live in today. People don't respect parents, teachers, police, or any form of authority anymore. All we want do is point the finger of blame at everyone else and sue the pants off of who ever gets in our way. We have become a notion of people who are accountable to no one, not even our own selves.
This is relevant how?
its exactly the opposite. we have had 2 presidents in a row willing to suspend habeas for american citizens. we have scandals that nobody pays attention to. when watergate happened there was a tremendous outcry and a president was impeached. nixons attempts at executive priviledge was denied.
those people who remained vigilant in their distrust of government. the jounalists that were interested in news rather than party. they are all gone. they sold out long ago.
we gave up on a free society and replaced it with safety.
distrusting authority is a valuable american trait.
Nixon was never impeached. He resigned to avoid impeachment. Only Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton have been impeached.
Kevin – so well said, and it is only going to get worse. And since when does one have to kill to make a point. It is because they do not have the intelligence to see that another, less combative way, is so much more humane. But they don't know the word humane. I sure am happy that Catholics, Protestants, Presbytarians, Methodists, Baptists etc. allow all their beliefs. And yet since we were built on freedom of religion, they are taking God out of everything.
I miss Reagan. If he was in charge, none of this would be happening.
it was only a few hundred years ago that communities in america killed people suspected of witchcraft, jailed people for adultery and turned a blind eye to child and spousal abuse. the women in these commnities couldnt wear their hair long and couldnt show their ankles.
the muslim world will mature
I agree. It's going to take a lot of bloodshed before that happens, however. America had the luxury of isolation during its growing pains. In a global community you need to grow up fast and Islamic countries are dragging their feet.
Islamic teachings are supposed to be a message of peace. However, it seems like the great whisperer has polluted the minds, hearts, and souls of some. Remember who you are:
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Religion is very easy, and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded." Bukhari:V1N38
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said "Anyone who believes in God and the Last Day (of Judgment) should not harm his neighbor. Anyone who believes in God and the Last Day should entertain his guest generously. And anyone who believes in God and the Last Day should say what is good or keep quiet." Bukhari:V8B73N47
"God does not forbid you to be kind and equitable to those who have neither fought against your faith nor driven you out of your homes. In fact God loves the equitable." Qur'an:60:8
"Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden (paradise) whose width is that of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous – Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity or in adversity, who restrain (their) anger and pardon (all) men – for God loves those who do good." Qur'an:3:133-134
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Do you know who will go first on the Day of Resurrection to the shade of God…Those who when given what is right accept it, when asked for something give freely and who judge in favor of others as they do for themselves." Al-Tirmidhi:1042
First, allah is a figment of moohamed the pedophile's imagination.
Apparantly, allah also said:
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Ishaq:325 "Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."
Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
You could extract excerpts from the Old Testament that sound just as vengeful, rebellious, scandalous, wrathful, and so on. However, the “end of life as we know it” message in all religions is this…do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
go ahead!
Qur'an 5:33 "The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and make mischief in the land, is to murder them, crucify them, or cut off a hand and foot on opposite sides...their doom is dreadful. They will not escape the fire, suffering constantly."
Tabari VIII:122
Ishaq:515 "The Prophet gave orders concerning Kinanah to Zubayr, saying, 'Torture him until you root out and extract what he has. So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kinanah's chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kinanah was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him."
Bukhari:V4B54N487 "The Prophet said, 'The Hell Fire is 69 times hotter than ordinary worldly fires.' So someone said, 'Allah's Apostle, wouldn't this ordinary fire have been sufficient to torture the unbelievers?'"
Bukhari:V4B52N260 "Ali burnt some [former Muslims alive] and this news reached Ibn Abbas, who said, 'Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, "Don't punish with Allah's Punishment." No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, "If a Muslim discards his Islamic religion, kill him."'"
Qur'an 48:27 "If the Muslims had not been there, We would have punished the unbelievers with a grievous torture."
Qur'an 9:5 "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Ishaq:550 "The Muslims met them with their swords. They cut through many arms and skulls. Only confused cries and groans could be heard over our battle roars and snarling."
Qur'an 5:37 "The [Christian] disbelievers will long to get out of the Fire, but never will they get out there from; and theirs will be an enduring torture."
Seems like you're quoting common sense. My Christian, Atheist/Agnostic, and Muslim friends (I don't know any Jewish individuals) all agree with the following, "You're human, I'm human, here's an idea, let's get along and NOT kill each other."
Unfortunately for us, murder and violence is coded in human genetics; kill or be killed. So there isn't much we can do, as many would rather appeal to instinct than to appeal to reason. This is likely the reason they are rioting; they just overthrew their evil and oppressive dictator, and tasted the addictive substance of violence. They are having a bit of trouble getting over it; I don't blame them, fighting can be harder to kick than cigarettes.
I would also like to point out that my Muslim friends think that the whole situation over there is completely idiotic and illogical.
"I think what we are all waiting to hear is a proper apology from Egyptian President Mohamed Morsy, who is the one figure in all of this that has been most disappointing."
What's even more disappointing is that Morsi is taking a page from Karzai's playbook, taking our money with one hand and slapping us in the face with the other. After their faild regimes end they can be neighbors in Dubai!
What this teachs our politicians is – - Islamist & Muslims HATE Americans and will use ANY excuse to KILL Americans and destroy American properties and business !!!
Apologize?? Are you serious?
If only several hundred, or even several thousand extremists are rioting and attacking our embassies, and the rest of the Muslim population does not condone it, then where is their outrage? Why isn't the Muslim populous retaliating against these
extremists? Why should Americans acknowledge that only a few extremists are the problem when the Muslim masses seem to cheer them on rather than rebut them.
Never apologize for freedom of speech.
I agree. But what about hate speech and sppech or ads that are just downright distasteful? But one man's poison is another's nectar so ...............
These Islamist are too sensitive it is time to desensitize them. We need to start posting more anti-Mohammed videos not less. We need to publish thousands of cartoons. These people need desensitization. Any volunteers?
No apology! Bomb them!
"The way you counter bad speech is with good speech. Let them make a great movie about Prophet Mohammed. That's the way you do it, not by killing people, not by burning people" – the most constructive idea I've heard since this nonsense began.
Why does CNN keep insisting that these incidents have anything to do with a YouTube video? How ridiculous! The attacks were planned well in advance. Egypt warned the US of it. It occurred on 9/11. Al Qaida claims it was in response to the drone killing of one of their leaders. The video is just a means of ginning up the rabble. Yet CNN continues to report this nonsense because those are the talking points from the White House, in order to deflect criticism from the chosen candidate.
That's about as right as one can be.
The muslims favorite video has been translated!
Enjoy your prophet in all his glory!
http://www.youtube . com/watch?v=wVpEseMTY7U
It is not the 'level of extremism' in muslim societies that is alarming.
It is the fact that the non-extremists sit back and let this happen.
Are all muslims cowards in this respect? Do these people LIKE what their societies have become?
What is it about islam that allows bullies to rule the roost?
The problem is that generally it's the extremists with the hardware. As someone said before, you don't go to the ghetto and talk crap about the gang-bangers. Not wise. In this case the whole Middle East is the ghetto.
California USA is a moslem guetto?
What are you talking about?
Isaac, every time you post your IQ drops another couple points. You should probably quit while you're ahead. I mean, you're already way behind, but you should probably stop.
Your lack of intellect is reflected in your attempts at insults.
Are we really forgiving 1 b of debt because of this? Or is this unrelated? If so... What is wrong with us? Why do we think we can buy friends. It works no better than trying to threaten them. Democrats and Republicans both have it wrong. No action and getting out of there is the best solution. Stay out of their affairs unless it directly impacts us.
it was supposed to happen before all this apparently. whether it does now or not, no clue
How does America forgive billions in debts for Egypt when they have borrowed the money they lent? Who is paying the orginal interest and now the principle? You the American people! And for who? The same muslims that killed your ambassador and continue to attack your consulates around the middle east! How does this make any sense?
What it reveals is that we can't live with Muslims. They are childish despots.
Obama appologize? Are you kidding CNN?
CNN had better start asking Muslims to appologize for their disrespect. They won't be able gloss over the rage felt in the US against these barbarians.
What the Mideast protests reveal? I say these Arabs and Muslims are taking one step forward, two steps backward.
Try 1 baby step forward, and then, 10 giant leaps behind.
Apparently they don't see the irony in responding to a video that depicts them as violent with violent protests...
If these protesters represent the minority in islam, I have to ask were are the moderate islamists who should be putting this violence down themselves?
Fine, Islamists want to riot against the U.S. for somebody making a film about Muhamed? Maybe we should riot against Islamic centers of faith every time they burn the U.S. flag. Sure its not their entire religious community that is doing it but.....oh wait. That would be bringing us down to their level. Never mind
Good thing Islam is a religion of peace and understanding!!!!!!1
Richard Engel's assessment over at NBC has it right.
You take the lid off of decades of government sponsored lies and conspiracy theories about the West and Israel trying to destroy Islam and the Middle-East and you have a society that is brainwashed and psychotic.
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How exactly has Israel tried to destroy the muslim world?????????????????????????????
I just saw some one commenting on hinduism. why? Last 1500 years. this slave follower have made life misserable. It is time that nuke out Mecca/Madina and Chemical weapon the middle east.
Can anybody in state talk about holocaust. Ask himself if it’s exaggerated and or make a movie about it. Do you do you.
@Khaled Rayyan
Go Read a history book. Without US you don't exist. You'd still be living in the stone age while the rest of the world forgets about you. You better be kissing the ground we walk on because one day when your society gets cut off you will be begging for us to help out and I can only pray we say no and laugh,
These protests reveal that there are a lot of people who are easily manipulated and wake up every morning looking for an excuse to burn their own neighborhoods down and yell "death to America".
Freedom of speech kiddos (in the Middle East) better get used to it, because it's never going away.
As usual, no matter how far we lower our expectations for the Muslim world, they manage to sink below them. Implicit in all these "we should have known better" responses is the default assumption that Muslims in the Islamic world obviously can't be trusted to act any better than than rabid animals that must be handled with care. Perhaps they'll get the "respect" they whine about once they start acting like adults instead of little babies looking to throw a tantrum at the slightest provocation.
For once, I agree with Fareed.
has anyone seen the trailer? Its totally a joke. Big deal!
Difference is Protesting is one thing; murdering because you don't like what someone said/did is WRONG! Also in MY opinion our current leader was briefed/warned and did nothing but place an order for our military to NOT USE ammunition to protect ourselves from terrorists! Quite shameful if I do say so myself!
Has anyone ever seen the tv shows or movies coming out of muslim countries? Check them out, they even have mickey mouse glorifying terrorism so kids can get it, their school books teach hate etc........so maybe put a lid on that and we will put a lid on truthful muhammad movies....
Ambassador Chris Stevens did not have a Marine detail in Benghazi, Libya. But White House Senior Advisor and Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett has a full Secret Service detail on vacation in Martha’s Vineyard, according to Democratic pollster Pat Caddell. Disgracefull!
obama failed America.....
You failed 3rd grade...
GROW UP DUDE! Yeah, it's Obama's fault. Stay on the subject D0USCHE BAG! Islamic Riots! NOT POLITICS U DOLT!
Develope our natural gas resource, get out of the Middle East and in less than 5 years our eceonomy will be booming. That would be a far better tribute than eulogies by Obama and Clinton.
Does anyone wonder who created and is really behind the video? For this video to surface 1.5 months before the election. A "Christian" group created the video. Could this be a political tool for control in America, a tool that has created the greater conflicts in the middle east............Right before a major Presidential election.
No proof, just my wild thinking..........BUT REMEMBER WATERGATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In a sane world, the chest-beating primates of the Middle East would be the ones worried about offending the nation with thousands of nuclear weapons that could wipe them out in an afternoon. How much mercy do you imagine we'd receive from the Religion of Peace if the tables were turned?
Q&A: What the Rehiring of Plagiarist Zakaria Reveals About CNN
Fareed Zakaria , you should stop your cacophony . What you area saying is pure Nonesense.
Muslims lie and cannot be trusted in this world...even the new terrorist muslim leader of egypt agrees with these protests......you have handed egypt to islamic fundamentalists the brotherhood who spawned hamas and hizbollah.......iran has sponosred these attacks....
One man made a dinky film that insulted people and they reacted by murdering people and CNN has the gaul to ask if Obama should appologize.
By the way, with technology, I and a few friends could whip up a pretty sphisticated looking and more insulting film about Mohamed as could 300,000,000 other Americans and post it on youtube. Is Obama going to appologized each time this happens.
For the most powerful country in the world, America sure looks weak these days.....obama has assisted in all this mess...
Towel heads...they would have killed Einstein becuase as per them he was infedal. These people are so much backward living people that we have to spend money and resource to fix these problem instead of any creative activity or Medical or science research.
What it reveals is that most muslims are fanatic nut jobs. This isn't an isolated few. Like I said, most muslims are fanatic nut jobs. When they are in majority in america, this is what it will be like.
This is in response to:
"There is a contest between the Islamists, the Muslim Brotherhood that is in power, and even more radical and extreme groups, which is why the president is clearly trying to curry favor with some of these groups by not condemning the violence more strongly."
I don't understand how Obama can believe that "not condemning the violence more strongly" will "curry favor" with some of these extreme groups? These extreme groups are not reasonable! They're not like Americans who will return peace for peace. He is basically bending over!
Also... we can't AFFORD to forgive debts when we are steeped in our own debt! Come on.
President Obama is the catalyst for the next holocaust. As the current administration attempts to marginalize the radical forces they helped unleash, the movement toward global jihad marches on. Do not be fooled, the riots are a expression of the popular will of the Arab people. Obama and Hillary are lying in an attempt to avoid responsibility for their failed policies. Fraeed Zakaria's attempts to downplay the situation iaremeerly a defense mechanism. Fareed, are you an enabler for global jihad? Time will tell and tell quickly.
Oscar D
Stop giving any aid to any country. Stop buying goods and oil from everyother country. If we need something we should take it. Strike fear ...
Burn the Quran and take what we need. Death to those who try and stop us!!!
The both of you are probably muslim so that you can later claim "islamaphobia".
Great act!
What kind of VIOLENT religion is it that makes people kill other people because of some caricature or misrepresentation of their god!? IT'S A STUPID HORRIBLE BAD SUB-B MOVIE YOU TWERPS! OMG! Like anyone would've highly recommended this poorly made movie to all their friends. YEAH IT WAS AWESOME MAN! HILARIOUS ROLLING STONE GAVE IT A 9.5 out of 10 STARS! Palease! It'a movie people ffs!
I heard a report that this film was made by an Egyptian Coptic Christian. Where is the outrage directed at the Egyptians and the Coptic Christian Church. Humans should have developed a thicker skin to go with the so called superior brain.
An excellent response by Fareed Zakaria – THIS is what Muslims in the East need to read and UNDERSTAND! I saw the videos on YouTube – pretty disgusting, and the "maker" of the movie was out to incite. I was disappointed, but I won't be joining any armed protest instead our mosque had scheduled an open house well before this was brought to light to let our community know who exactly Muslims are. These workshops are almost always filled to capacity. Community engagement is the answer to dispel the myths that surround Islam and Muslims. I try to attend these sessions when any other faith run them so that I can also learn about other peoples practices.
@Sean – if they are willing to kill anyone that gets in their way, what makes you think the moderates will step in the way and stay "STOP" - they'll get killed as well. The leadership of these countries needs to do MUCH MORE to stop the violence.
I suspect you will not get the thousands of Muslims coming out to support you as they do for their Jihad in the middle east. Good luck in trying to overcome what is becoming obvious to the rest of Western society.
it was george bush who awarded this hate from Muslim world to US by attaching Iraq. It is replicans who did injustice to Oil company for their profit. Replicans are responsible for this face of US.
This is simply just untrue!
Whatever you're smokin'.....you need to put it down for awhile.
You need to stop blaming the other party for the sole purpose of "they are the other party"
I really believe we should stay out of countries that do not want our help as shown by the murder of our Ambassador to Libya.
What this really proves is that it is not a few hundred radicals, as stated in the article, all the images show it is literally thousands participating, it is very widespread throughout Islam. We spend too much effort apologizing for the Islamists that supposedly do not support the radicals it is time for them to step up, if they can or want to, and show the world that this is a peaceful religion. Every indication is that this is not a religion of peace. They do not want US help and should no longer receive any help from the US until they in return start demonstrating the respect they claim they want.
What's the big deal? It's not like the movie showed him focking a goat!
it reveals that Muslims are stupid and America as usual thinks they have the moral authority to go in and kill them.
I don't think we should be giving billions to the Middle East, period. If we stopped giving this aid to Egypt and Libya we could pay off our national debt very quickly, and our SS and Medicare could be refunded again.
This has been a long time in waiting. We are getting blamed for it all and the oil we seek. So then lets just end it and call it a day? Lets just put them back in the dark ages were they so show they perfer. Lets give them 21s century treatment to their 13th century crazyness.
Ooh-rah and semper fi!
I say lets tell a country right in the middle of this. We are hands off. You were right. Telll the UN to go fly fishing and lets us once again walk with a big stick! And then when a the lights go out no smartphones work and youtube cant be used lets see who crys?
Lets send the Marines in take out our people and stop all money they get and say have fun.
Hi Muslims, So you're offended by the depiction of your prophet?
I'm horribly offended by your religion's treatment of women and based on the number of ludicrous act, like blasphemy laws that punish illiterate children and blowing up of the priceless ancient statues in Bamiyan, I think your religion is an insult to Humanity.
Does that give me a right to throw stones, burn your buildings and kill your diplomats?
Agreed 100% Michelle! You said it!
hey Michelle suck my Muhammed's 8==> or be moslems and enjoy Aisha's (_!_). Choice is yours.
Damn straight!
Should Obama apologize? Yes! To the families of the diplomats he hung out to dry, and to the American people.
EXACTLY right!
Which diplomats, exactly, did he hang out to dry and how? Show us your ignorance.
yes, to the US Citizens for being the worst president ever
If butt kissing Obama apologizes for the damage THEY DONE TO US. I will never vote for him or any democratic president again.
There is a limit to how spineless you can be...
then why did you vote for him in the first place?
if the speaker from cnn international claims that these radicals are merely a smaller portion of these countries (Egypt, Tunisia, Jerusalem, etc.) then i would like to hear some comments from the other side of these countries; the portion that consist of those who are only angry, and not violent.
it would help me to understand why we are providing aid to countries who seem to resent us if I could hear from a representative from the Libyan govt. on what their official opinion on these protests is. Do they really WANT our help or do they actually resent us as much as these radicals seem to in the images being shown here on CNN?
If the violent protesters do not represent the whole opinion of the country, why are we only seeing this side of the outrage?
I actually hope that Obama apologizes and that voters respond accordingly.
What does the mideast protest reveal? Simple...that the worthless uncivilized barbarians should all be nuked.
I googled and found out that Muslims are attacking American fast food restaurents in some countries. In some US embassies cars were burnt.
I find it very difficult to reconcile the words spoken by the followers of Islam and the actions performed by followers of Islam.
• An artist draws a cartoon that Muslims feel is an affront to Islam – result Riot, Mayhem, Murder
• An author writes a book that Muslims feel is an affront to Islam –result Riot, Mayhem, Murder
• The Quran is mishandled which Muslims feel is an affront to Islam-result Riot, Mayhem, Murder
• A movie is made which Muslims feel is an affront to Islam-result Riot, Mayhem, Murder
• A speech is made that Muslims feel is an affront to Islam-result Riot, Mayhem, Murder
The words spoken are that Islam is a religion of profound Peace, yet every action taken by followers of Islam to what they perceive is an affront is violence. Many try to convince the world that the violence is only committed by fanatics and yet this violence is worldwide, too much to be only attributable to fanatics.
" they're all signs of a fundamental problem within Arab societies, a fundamental lack of tolerance and an extremism.".........
In the first place, not all Muslims are Arabs. In the second place, these people take their religion seriously. They actually believe in it. For most Americans religion is just a social thing.
The protests reveal thst Os aplogy and appeasement tour didn't work and his support for an Arab spring led to Muslim radicals in Egypt and an incompetent govt in Libya.Asking Z what this means is stupid since you can get the same response from Os campaign.
Obama went to the middle east and apologized for the USA in 2009, but it was not a sincere apology. The Muslims know this. Obama must go to Cairo personally, right now, and get on his knees and beg forgiveness from all Muslims for this vile insult. If he does that, then the Muslim world will forgive the USA for its crimes.
I love your sense of humor.
How about we just nuke and kill you all instead?
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Q&A: What the Mideast protests reveal
It means that those people are mentally and emotionally stuck in the stone ages and as such are in need of being NUKED into the state which they wish to live!
US.Support for Muslim Brotherhood was mistake ,and they are paying it now.
U didn't hear the scream of the Christians in Egypt and went to support the devil... ITS UR TURN USA. NEVER MADE A DEAL WITH DEVIL.
I totally support u.
GREAT....! Apologizing to Muslims on 9-11. NICE.
These people not only routinely produce hate toward Christians and Jews...they KILL Christians and Jews.
Just the fact that liberals, with their disgusting and perverse worldview, would apologize to a people who clapped when the Towers fell show how utterly depraved they are. They will pander to anyone for votes.
Is it any surprise Bin Laden was mad Keith Olbermann got fired?–that he preferred msnbc because they were Islamic apologizers who attacked those who were trying to stop the fanatics?–and you side with this feeble bunch of cowards?
Consider the following ( FNN):
When the men who killed our ambassador to Libya were in the final stages of their preparation, Hillary Clinton was in the Cook Islands, being regaled by locals in traditional dress. Her seemingly endless world tour has prioritized symbolism and pageantry over substance. So too has the administration of her boss, Barack Obama, and the costs are now becoming clear.
This explains why Obama’s chief diplomat said of the Libya attack: “I asked myself—how could this happen? How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?”
Madam secretary, it is time for you and your boss to wake up and smell the global jihad.
There are people in this world—and not a small number of them—who share the vision bin Laden had and have the will and means to act. No amount of apologizing for America, embracing our adversaries or mistreating our allies will change that.
What the protests in these countries reveal is that the people running this country are just children when it comes to understanding foreign policy. Barely two months ago we had Obama telling us that al Qaeda was all but fininshed – that the death of Bin Laden and the various drone strikes had shown them who was boss! Obama and his foreign policy "advisors" don't even have a clue! Obama obviously believed that because he didn't even have our embassies take precautions around the anniversary of 9-11 – the Marines in Egypt didn't even have bullets! These protests were planned well before any news about a "video" leaked out – - and so far, only 10 people (count them – ten) have even seen the video! NOT ONE of the people setting fire to our embassies and raising so much hell in Arab / Muslim countries has seen the film. And now, Obama is going to APPOLIGIZE? Perhaps he'll bow, too! These people in the Obama Administration are children!
suck my Muhammed's 8==> yo all kafeers or be moslems and enjoy Aisha's (_!_). Choice is yours.
Apologize for what?
Obama has already apologized and this is all of his fault and you are a bong hole bleeder liberal.
suck my Muhammed's 8==> yo all kafeers or be moslems and enjoy Aisha's (_!_). Choice is yours.
Kooks, nut jobs, loonies, you name it: there is no other explanation. Get used to it as Islam spreads.
Get the Islamophile and the HillaryBeast out of the White House. Time for a Mormon or a Coptic Christian, or even a Jew.
they burn down a KFC, lets burn down a terrorist hiding center. Or should I say mosque.
The producer of this film and that idiot of a preacher in Florida need to be arrested and convicted as accomplices to murder.
Obvously it's their fault – not the people who actually burned cars, killed an amabssador, .......
Its amazingly easy to NOT watch a video on YouTube.. Watch I will prove it.. Yep I didn't even see it for a second...
go back to the middle east then traitor....
Kooks, nut jobs, loonies, you name it: there is no other explanation. Get used to it as Islam spreads.
I'm sure the pagans said the same thing about Christianity...
Yeah, those early christians were blowing themselves and other up left and right. Early christianity and islam are exact comparisions (right).
just like what we say about atheiests now as well. it all goes around.
Look, they don't want western civilization, morals, way of life, ideas to change their society. They want our money maybe but that's it. The Chinese are the same. But we need their oil. Let's get off our foreign oil dependence and then let them do what they want in their own countries. If they want to live in a medieval society that's their choice. Hopefully we would limit visas and visiting privileges too, so they don't try to spread their ideas here. It goes both ways.
Americans should retaliate and get rid of some mosques.
no no no.. don't do that. Let's just sit back and watch them make complete idiots of themselves. The whole world is watching them and scratching their heads right now. Give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves.
The only thing these protests show me is that islam is a violent and intolerant religion. Case closed!
Stop all aid in countries with protests and leave them to financially fend for themselves. Stop pretending that a relationship is possible.
You can't live in a 7th century mindset and live in the 21st century. Let's just stop trying. Personally, I'm done with the entire region. They're literally hopeless.
Lets tell the TRUTH here ,these riots were started by the Toyota Truck Company. Sells where lagging in Asia and Toyota knows the first thing that goes up in this market is the burning of Toyota trucks. Sells to Asia going up.
Time to cleanse the middle east of the Islamic plague by nuclear fire
We need a second crusade.
difference between Islam and Christianity: one, you blow yourself up, you go to heaven; the other you go to hell. Guess which religion will have the suicide bombers.
It proves that the middle east is beyond saving! It also proves that all the money the US has spent THERE instead of HERE in the USA has going to waist.
They are camel jockies...nothing more...stop trying to save them...stop supporting them with our TAX dollars...build a road here instead of there...build a school here instead of there...stop throwing good money after bad!!!
Let them root!!
They cannot be saved. We need to turn the rocks into pebbles, the pebbles into sand and the sand into glass.
It's all about the oil
Go look up the hundreds of videos that Palestinians have had on their PUBLIC T.V. about how Jews are apes or how they make matzo out of the blood of muslim children. You don't see the Israelis or the Jews in America freaking out and storing embassies with rpg's ...What is wrong with these people?...
my guess would be...a lot
.... So they break and burn a lot of crap in their own country? I'm sure this has been a very productive response. I don't get people.
All these barbaric behaviors are because people in middle east don't have access to necessity of life which are jobs, homes, clean food and water. Therefore they look for a reason to go nuts destroying everything. Now their reason is this movie. Tomorrow will be something else.
The words spoken are that Islam is a religion of profound Peace, yet every action taken by followers of Islam to what they perceive is an affront is violence. Many try to convince the world that the violence is only committed by fanatics and yet this violence is worldwide, too much to be only attributable to fanatics!
We should apologize by canceling foreign aid and quit buying their oil. Of course that would require us using less oil domestically. Of course that won't fly with the average American SUV driving cry baby, so we keep on buying their oil and keep on financing terrorism. Can't have it both ways.
Pull all aid and let them pound sand
its time to cut off all aid to these religious freak nations.......they were not upset about some goofy film.........they just wanted to kill more innocent people like their black book of hate tells them to do......cut them off mr president and let them go back to the stone ages they so love to emmulate
"The way you counter bad speech is with good speech. Let them make a great movie about Prophet Mohammed."
As I understand the Islamic beliefs, and I am in no way a scholar in this area, it is blasphemy to represent Mohammed in any form. Therefore a movie about Mohammed, even attempting to portray him in a great way, would be blasphemous to Muslims. I believe that the Quoron doesn't specifically forbid visual depictions but there are many supplimental teachings or interpretations that do.
For God's sake, no apology. If Obama apologizes, the right wing lunatics here will be burning cars in the street.
I know they are all on edge because they can't drink, look at women or eat bacon, but they should be just grateful they didn't have to watch a movie Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter.
Americans should retaliate and get rid of some mosques
the liberal media, cnn, nytimes, cnn, huffpo, charlie rose, abc, nbc, cbs, msnbc, are ALL part of the problem..supporting obama's naive "muslim outreach"....ITS A FAILURE!!!!
It's time to start calling a spade a spade...islam is THE problem facing the planet today. Need more evidence that what we are seeing lately? man, is the liberal media corrupt and unethical.
agree 100%...they want Jihad, hop on your NAVY carriers and we will wait.......BRING IT
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Let the "Arab world could descend into 'chaos.'" They seem to prefer it.
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the facts:
The USA has a Bill of Rights and Freedom of Speech, we can make these movies if we want, tasteless or not
The Middle EAST DOESNT UNDERSTAND THIS....TOO BAD
APOLOGIZE FOR OUR RIGHTS
never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you can talk to the one that can talk.....you can not talk to the one that throw stufff and can not talk.....ask my wife.....
I would imagine that it would be really hard to talk to someone with a knife in their hand, with the idea of throwing it.
With all the oppression that the USA supported in the countries with mostly Muslim population, assisting Dictators and Kings –same deference- to suppress their own people because the fools back in DC thought it was in the best interest of the USA and it’s apartheid Zionist Ally. That, compounded with all the anti Muslim propaganda trumpeted by western media, it is obvious that some in those countries right or wrong will take out there anger on the USA at the least provocation. Suffice it to say that there are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world and if they were all easily provoked then the USA and its Allies would have a much bigger problem than what we see now. People in the USA forget that just 60 years ago blacks were being lynched for the fun of it and there are people in USA society who still wish for the good old days, they have a tendency to support the Republican party.
People in Muslim nations are being beheaded and stoned for fun.... Which political party to the people guilty of that support?
I think that is for murder and adultery, right or wrong it ain't for fun
America is for Muslims.
Another apology from the great divider. Oh well, he thinks he is mohammed anyway.
NONONONOOOOOOOO! WHY THE HELL SHOULD WE APOLOGIZE FOR OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH?
What needs to happen is the cowardly filmmaker needs find it in his heart and to really sincerely apologize to the Muslim world. I think the protestors are not really angry with All Americans or the US for that matter they are only angry for what was done and the only way they can get back at the filmmaker is to target whats closes to him which is anything that is representing the United States. It's interesting how one event in form of a script that was originally written from a prison cell block by a Coward can ultimately rock the world later on.
Please look up Monty Python's Life of Brian or Mel Brooks' History of the World Part I – yes, they are more talented than the creator of this film, but tell me what the fundamental difference is between this film and those two? There is no difference. Fundamentally, there is a part of the world that hates Americans and no apology is going to change that.
As a CNN commentator was saying, that the violence that is taking place is exactly what the movie was stating on how Islam was depicted to have been born by killing others in the name of Allah and taking control of others by force and violence... All i see a bunch of non-educated thugs ready to jump on any violence ship that they can find in the name of Islam... what a shame...they are showing exactly who they are (goverments and citizen alike)...God have mercy on us.
Perhaps a speech on freedom of speech and why it's a cherished value is warranted. On second thought nix that; neanderthals on this side of the Atlantic will erupt, calling it an apology and neanderthals over there won't comprehend the concept of free speech.
Too many ignorant and brainwashed unemployed people (mostly men) in the Muslim world. They protest, throw stones, kill infidels, put women in the dark, brainwash children as to utter allah is the only god, do not allow any freedom to think, etc. This is the Muslim world of 1.5 billion. Their dark and ignorant world always balances out the modern enlightened world.
How Islam and its followers have come to this? The Musmlim world was the most advanced culture centuries ago. They were tolerant, cult, innovators, etc. As a matter of fact our Christian world was the one who was intolerant, barbaric and maniac (Inquisition anyone?). Many of the greatest inventiions were done under Islam and the wholoe world has benefited from it. However, I don't know what happended along the way and the Muslim world has become equal to terrosism, intolerance and pure madness. The Muslim world doesn't produce anythibng good right now. Only headache. Some people are event calling them a "cancer' that must be erradicated. What's up muslim world? Wake up and smell the coffee!!!
It is a shame that egypt is going through this, it would not surpse me that with in the spam of my lifetime, they tear down the pyrimids and sphinx becuase they are remerence of a long past religio. They have donw it in the past
This is a "Clash of Civilizations", nothing more than a continuation of the Crusades. Look for a much larger military conflict, Afghan and Iraq were merely a skirmish. Israel/Iran will likely be next, and soon. Farid doesn't know a thing about the Middle East.
Where is the largest mosque in the USA? We need to put a torch to it and send a message to these stinking murderous muslim bast**ds!
Paul Bremer emails with this observation:
Fareed Zakaria’s piece in the Post today contains a real howler. Arguing against defining red lines, he states that to "define a red line in advance would commit the United States to waging a war; no country would make such a commitment."
He seems to have slept through most of the 20th century, and would be advised to review the NATO treaty, signed by Harry Truman, which does precisely that, as do many of the existing security treaties to which the United States has for decades been a party. These agreements were the direct outgrowth of the second world war, brought about by the persistent, and wrong headed, refusal of European countries in the 1930s to establish clear red lines for German actions. And that NATO red line, reaffirmed by eight presidents of both parties, contributed in no small part to the ultimate collapse of the Soviet Union.
Article Five of the NATO treaty reads:
“The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.”
While isolationism is not the answer it is dam n tempting. We have been the hated world police for much too long, we have been at war since the end of WWII in one form or another. I think it is time to stop. Pull out from Afghanistan, leave a note recommending that al queda not be invited to return, then leave Pakistan to their own devices while keeping track of every nuke they have. Stop funding unfriendly governments until they come to understand that they can no long abuse us and demand payment for doing so.
It has been said that the next century is the Chinese century, how about we let them have it along with the troubles and abuse that comes with it.
Dont apologize for nothing they should beg for our forgiveness! we have rights and different life styles than they do. Lets level the mideast and open bagel stands!
As much as I love bagels and bagel stands and the whole right to different rights and stuff, we shouldn't level the Middle East.
To my Arab friends:
I do my thing and you do your thing.
I am not in this world to live up to your expectations,
And you are not in this world to live up to mine.
You are you, and I am I,
and if by chance we find each other, it's beautiful.
If not, it can't be helped.
(Fritz Perls, "Gestalt Therapy Verbatim", 1969)
I think that if Obama had bowed to just a few more middle eastern leaders, and would have made just a few more apologies on behalf of the US, then they would REALLY, REALLY LIKE US, and none of this would be happening. Just shows you how well Obama's "diplomacy" has worked. Now they just think we're easy marks!
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Muslims need to teach the extreme Muslims for their intolerance, but that will never happen.
A Muslim loves his Muslim brother whether extreme or not.
I am so utterly sick of the Middle East. The sooner we figure out an alternative to oil, the better.
Where did cnn find this fool! what a lying liberal blowhard! this is all obamas fault and the liberal media doesn't like to hear this...
You're an idiot.
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Four people killed, including a US Ambassador, widespread violence, and people who are being hurt and killed and we speak, and those who will be hurt or killed. Over what? A movie. I'd love to see some stupid hippie try to justify this...
Obama took the credit for bin lamd now let him stand up for the USA. these people have no fear of us. if they think we are saying bad thing or burn there book it ok for them to kills us we need to do as reagan did shoot back that took one time and thse people stop for years. now we will see if oabama is and american or a muslim.
Zakaria, you speak for no muslim around the world you Kafir
I "Think" you need 8=====> up your (_!!_) "Think" again, my offer is still standing.
I guess the guy`s in the dresses are the extremest, They look like they are more active than the people dressed in common garb.
Don't call them towel heads cause those are sheets they use, So from now on they are to be referred to as sheetheads, Bwahahahahaahahhaaa
No our apologetic president needs to refrain from groveling on his knees before the Muslim world for our freedom to say what we want good or bad. Instead he needs to school them that they need to learn how to have thick skin and not let what some nut posts on a internet page send them into a murderous frenzy that takes the lives of people who were in no way involved. Tolerance is what this lesson should be called.
The US government needs to get out of the Arab world. Bring home our troops and stop all foriegn aid. Just make the announcement and start the withdrawl immediately. They will miss our tax dollars but we need it here worse.
Besides, no one has ever asked me nor have I ever had the oppoutunity to vote on foriegn aid.
No muslim around the world you speak for Mr.Zakaria -– You Kafir
Thank God for Obama!!! I mean, yeah, we got hell on earth and it's only getting worse. But at least none of this is his fault.
It's impossible for me to comprehend the level of stupidity in the Middle East. It's such a violent, explosive, and misinformed culture. They have absolutley no concept of what's right and wrong but they sure know how to burn things.
WE (the USA) should absolutely NOT apologize. We did nothing wrong. The man (Isreali, Muslim, terrorist) who made this film needs to apologize...instead of hiding with police protection. I am a dyed in the wool Democrat and President Obama supporter and I will be very disappointed if he apologizes. Screw all of those barbarians who seem to enjoy the violence and protesting for the sake of pleasure. I'm sick of them all.
No one needs to apologize.
From a report I saw this morning there is no records of him or any of his alias being Israeli (despite him saying he was), but from the report the filmmaker is believed to be a citizen of Egypt.
Are you out of your mind CNN ! APOLIGIZE ? NO NO NO NO ABSOLUTLEY NOT . Th president of a country does not apoligize for a meth head felon that shot a movie with his cam corder and a bunch of idiots. Drop some ordinace on these fools in the Middle East and be done with it.
Imagine what would happen if someone made a movie that depicted followers of Mohammed as people who would erupt into violence and murder at the slightest provocation... oh wait...
Even a baby knows that if you overplay the frequency of your tantrums, eventually you will be ignored.
what you know about muslims.....mr copy cat bin zakaria.u such a liar an stop copying other people articles
I wonder that the Nobel priice peopke are thinking about the price they gave to Obama the fisrt year of his presidency.
They had crisis during the Bush Presidency! This has nothing to do with Obama. You can't deal with crazy. Protect Americans and let them destroy their country.
Zakaria, Even if you consider yourself muslim. Based on your writing of this article, I can tell you that you Zakaria are a Kafir.
It's official.
The entire Muslim World is NUTS !!
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Our government should not FORGIVE ANY DEBTS to countries that do this. We have freedom here, they don't. We can't afford to forgive debt and we can't afford to give any funding to any of this. The government did not do this, one person did and that is his right to do so. I have not seen the video and I am sure it is what you call bigotted, however, it is probably more right on than not. Never met a muslim that did not have hate in their hearts for the USA and they live here – go figure.
I don't recall the Mormons protesting and killing people when "The Book of Mormons" play came out on Broadway. Their response was indifference. Muslims please take note.
I hate to say this but the world would be a better place without these lunatics in the middle east.
How many people here have seen the " Movie"
I think I found where the USA can save taxpayers close to $2 billion
well cnn might have won the "we suckup to minorities" race but they should really think about getting a better journalist than fareed the freak. he really doesn't know much.
CNN hasn't even seen the movie, but they carry oblama's water....
"In the relations of a weak government and a rebellious people there comes a time when every act of the authorities exasperates the masses, and every refusal to act excites their contempt."
-From "Ten Days that Shook the World", John Reed's on-hand account of the Bolshevik revolution.
We've seen this before but we still don't know what's going to happen and we can't do anything about it. Pretty scary stuff.
It is hard not to believe that all Muslims believe this was a good idea when there are no Muslims apologizing for it. There never is.
I wonder why CNN's ratings....well they don't even have a rating....
Will Obama and Clinton be apologizing to all the rioters in the Muslim world for not apologizing hard enough last time? Life in North America and Western Europe will be very "interesting" when these people get the critical mass they need to start causing the same kind of trouble they cause at home. All hail immigration!!
Would recommend everyone to read an indepth analysis on this matter, by a professor from Columbia University. Go to aljazeera dot com and read the opinion sectino. Highly insightful.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/09/201291464128859414.html
The problem is that Islamic governments themselves are at fault for creating the environment of speech intolerance. What do you think would happen in Libya, Yemen or Egypt if people began publishing criticisms of their governments? They would disappear, be tortured or worse. So a population is indoctrinated in this sort of intolerance by their own governments are only reacting in the way they have been taught – offensive speech is punishable by violence. To expect people to be tolerant when they live under a regime of extreme intolerance makes no sense. Until Middle East governments approach the freedom of speech with the same tolerance as Western nations, their people will continue to be as intolerant as their governing bodies.
You hit the nail on the head!
Keep up the good work middle-east! You're right back on the path to dictatorships and no freedom. Sorry we ever tried to help via "arab spring". You can't fix stupid.
Start dropping bombs on the monkey congregation.
This just in from FOX, Marines are now defending the embassies, after 3 days.....
Apologize, they should get out the nukes for this.
They should just leave them to their own devices. Give the guys in the embassies some sniper rifles, and have them hang out on the roof. Then, anyone who jumps the wall? See ya lata. Otherwise, let them burn their own city down BECAUSE OF A STUPID MOVIE
If he should apologize it better be his personal apology and not on behalf of the United States or it's citizens. It will not surprise me if he does as he has shown tendencies that way early in his presidency. Huge mistake if he does.
Maybe we should say to the Muslim world. We don't like what the video said, we understand that it is offensive, and it doesn't represent the majority of the American people. What it does represent is freedom of speech, liberty, and democracy. And while we passionately disagree with it, Americans have died defending the right to say it We even support the right to assemble and protest against it, but when it resorts to violence and murder then it becomes unacceptable and now Justice needs to come.
How dare you suggest that we actually show some sort of a back bone ... we have to appologise for those people being stuck in the stone ages!
Note to liberals ... the above was sarcasum!
You're the true definition of an idiot.
No, the US President should NOT apologize for something he has no responsibility for. By doing so, he is there by taking responsibility for someone else's action and is sending a message to the rest of the world that this is NOT the country of the Brave, NOT the country of the Free. Freedom of speech! That is the core of who we are and what we are. For him to apologize for an Independent movie is the say that he does NOT agree with the country he represents.
I have not seen the movie, but think the idea of it is dumb to begin with. But, it is the right of a US citizen to express their beliefs and opinion even if many others disagree with it. It should not be OUR fault that a bunch of violent happy individuals take to the streets to kill, injure, and destroy in the name of ANYTHING! They do their religion an injustice, they do their family and injustice, and they do themselves an injustice. They are the scourge of our species.
freedom of speech does not mean insulting people feelings. I think the world would be better if every one respects other people's feelings and beliefs.
freedom of speech DOES mean people can say their opinion even if you don't agree with it.
Boo Hoo their feelings are hurt. No reason to act the fool. Where's the outrage over Syria? I guess Syrians feelings don't matter?
Offence to ego isn't good enough reason to kill.
Mohammed was a womanizing buffoon, this is a historical fact, not up for debate, but muslims just wouldn't understand it
I am a Jew........raised in a mixed family Jewish/Christian........so I am a Jew for Jesus.
We must remember that the Catholic's TORTURED people into believing the Catholic doctrine and believes, yet how many years later.........people still follow the Catholic religion and believe the Pope is Holy.
It is all about where you come from.........America must wise up we are not the only people, values, believes on planet earth.
America has a candidate for President who wants to deny women the rights to their own body and deny gay Americans the civil rights other Americans have and enjoy (gays and woman can still pay the same taxes as others- just not get all the civil rights).
Christians did torture people, "witch hunt" but people still follow the Christian religion.
let me ask have you ever read a book about him or even about about islam?
UnfortunatelyI think you are like a millions of people that only know what is happening two mills away from where they live.
Why arent Americans outside of their embasy's here in the states....protesting, throwing rocks...why?
We don't riot that way. We go to voting booths to express our discontent and live with the results.
Except where they suppress the vote.
This is simple reasoning. This is what happens when you have ignorant and uneducated people. The leaders don't want to educate them because then the people will wise up and turn on them. There are two ways for the middle east to join the modern world. When the oil runs out, so will the money and nobody will care about them. Or We simply bomb the countries into oblivion, take the oil and go about our business. Nothing will change with the status quo.
instead of tearing their country apart every "FRIDAY AFTER PRAYERS" why dont they devote their time to instruction and construction instead of DESTRUCTION... this is getting to be old......
A difference in culture, laws, etc......our freedom of speech is different than in other countries, BUT the right wing neocons knew what the outcome of a video like this would create !!!
Who do the right wing neocons support...........NOT OBAMA.
Mitch McConnell said that the GOP would take the next 2 years preventing Obama from being re-elected, even at the expense of working America........that wasn't enough........now the middle east.
The right wing Christian neocons tested the water with the pastor burning the Koran and now 1.5 months before the election a video from "christians" is released and turns the middle east upside down for the current administration.
The acts from the Islam supporters are WRONG, but the acts from the creators of the video intended to create the situation which has happened.
Jesus save us from your followers.
even after being proven a liar and fraud who plagerises others work,fareed comes back off a SUSPENSION for plagerism and continues his lies and propoganda! the bombing in libya had nothing to do with any video! fareed doesnt know that AL-QAEDA bombed that same embassy in benghazi back in june of this year.
that bombing,along with this one is al-qaeda's response to america KILLING one of their commanders in yemen who is from LIBYA! fareed also doesnt know that a week after the attack in june,al-qaeda tried to assasinate the british ambassador to libya by shooting his S.U.V. with an RPG! and the new leader of al-qaeda just released a new video on monday calling for them to kill the US ambassador to libya.
fareed is simple doing what he did before his SUSPENSIION FOR PLAGERISM! and that is to tout OBAMA'S lies and deflect the truth that america sided with al-qaeda when they removed gadaffi,and now our chickens are roosting!
Well, Mr Zac I agree with you that they are few thousand people on those streets. These are same people who we armed in Libya during fall of Gadfi. We are doing samething in Syria. US is arming salafis in that region....
Look at how easy a low life criminal in USA can undo years of effort of so many diplomats and investment in making peace with Middle east countries. How can we prevent this from happening in the future? Otherwise, we are just building sand castles in the Middle east. Every achievement in Middle east is an illusion waiting to be collapsed.
Complete withdrawal is an easy solution and China/Russia/Iran are happy to fill in.
a low life criminal? LOL since when freedom of speech is a crime?
Just once I would love to see their reaction as they watch Americans destroy their embasy, burn their flag, and take their people hostage. I know it would never happen here, we're way too layed back compared to those people
All I will say is this: If you aren't prepared to be offended, don't go on the internet.
I bet 99.9 of the people rioting never even have the internet. They haven't seen the video, yet they act the fool.
You're probably right.
If you're not prepared to be offended, don't be born
It is time for the U.S to wise up and get the hell out of the mid east and North Africa. We are not wanted there nor should we be there. They hate each other. We have tried to help, but it is a losing battle. Iraq and Afghanistan are good examples of our efforts. As some of these posted comments, we are no different than the Islamic people
I must say that this is the most cogent, intelligent, and knowledgeable series of comments from Mr. Zakaria that I have ever seen. Perhaps he's beginning to see the light!
The salafists only understand one language. The language of the gun. You can try diplomacy all you want, it will get you know where. The secular muslim rulers understand this and fist them with the iron fist when they act up.
What will it take to convince our U.S. government, that we no longer wish to give handouts to these lousy, backward third world countries?
Is this really about a film? I mean cmon, Muslims are saying death to America and it was ONE producer who made a low budget film about Islam. I think something else is going on.
Ya think?
CNN-
US intelligence warned embassy in Egypt of concern about anti-Muslim film
By Suzanne Kelly
Concerned about the reaction to an anti-Muslim film that was gaining attention online, the U.S. intelligence community sent a cable to the embassy in Egypt warning of the concern, a U.S. official told CNN. It was sent 48 hours before the protests in Cairo and Benghazi in Libya, the official said.
The cable did not discuss any specific threat, the official said. It warned instead about the existence of the movie being posted on the internet and the fact that it was gaining attention. A seven minute portion of the movie aired on an Egyptian TV talk show the weekend before the protests started, according to a Department of Homeland Security/Federal Bureau of Intelligence memo obtained by CNN on Thursday.
The cable was not sent to the embassy in Tripoli, Libya or the consulate in Benghazi. US officials have said there was no intelligence ahead of the attack in Benghazi, which intelligence officials still believe was not planned. The White House spokesman Jay Carney said Friday there was no "actionable intelligence" indicating an attack was being planned.
I wonder where Zakaria plagiarized his answers from.
This was staged ....... What fools are these that do the bidding of criminals in the name of a "religion"
How can Jay Carney stand up today on behalf of the President and say this isn't directed at the US? Did we NOT notice that they are tearing down and burning the American flag and putting up the black Al Qaeda flag in it's place. We've now got riots going on across the entire middle east. This is far more serious than a reaction to a film.
Just keep on moving. Don't pay any notice. Nothing to see here. This isn't related to anything we;ve done. Just keep believing the man behind the curtain.
The Dems think the voters are dumb. Maybe they are right considering the poll results.
These islamist, radical or not, hate us now and have hated all non-muslims for 2000 years. There will never be mutual religious tolerance in the Middle East, NEVER!
Nothing more the intolerance, from both the film maker and the idiots killing people because they took "offense".
The film maker didn't riot or kill anybody. The best way to hurt a film maker is to ignore him.
True, however words and images can incite enough anger to make it as though the person in question pulled the trigger himself.
I agree though, ignore the Filmmaker
I can understand "one person" getting mad, but the entire middle east?
Wow!!! Why do I even read these puppet sites.
Because people say some pretty funny stuff on stuff like this. Not finding it as much as I normally do.
I wish to apologize on behalf of intelligent Americans everywhere, all of this written here is the worst example of my country that I have ever read. It seems that the people that read CNN are of the lowest IQ. Most of you are bigoted and intolerant. You all do not represent the "best" of America, that is for sure.
I am upset about the way our embassy personnel have been treated. I will protest by setting my neighbors car on fire.
But here in America Rev. Wright is o.k. and Al Sharpton has his own program.
Rev Wright and Sharpton have a right to their own opinions. If you don't like them, just ignore them.
Just like Muslims can ignore this movie. So why is liberal media bashing a film maker for telling the truth? Ever hear of child brides in Islam? Yes sir. Practice alive and well.
The "liberal" media isn't bashing him. from what I've read, most people are making fun of the protesters.
Apologize, Ha!!!!!! I am so outraged with these people for killing Americans and what they have been doing to our flag!!!!!! We need to put all of the aid (billions) we send off to the middle east back into our own courtry. How about putting it toward paying down our debt or distribute some of it to our American citizens to stimulate our aconomy!
The President should make a statement "To the people of Islam", explaining two things: 1. The American people did not know about this, or approve it, and would not. This was one crazy person- aim your anger at him, not the people who are trying to help you. 2. Your frustration at social injustice is correct, but injustice comes by dictatorship, not from America, which buys your goods and gives aid. You need to build freedom, it doesn't just magically appear, and it starts in the mind, with the freedom to think and say contrary things. That's the foundation of freedom, not cars or jobs. Those are the fruits. Wealth comes for all people from the freedom to try new things- inventions, products, social systems, even new religious ideas, which all come from freedom of mind and speech. Crazies mean nothing, not everything, Don't let them change your focus from building your better society. Don't let tantrums of rage support the killing of innocent people, when building work must start again. Look at the countries all over the globe, not just the United States, and how their freedom brings prosperity. One man living here who hates you does not represent the USA at all- don't pretend he does.
Lets harvest all of the worlds marijuana and ship it to the middle east... then maybe they will relax and join the rest of the civilized world. Problem solved!
OBAMA IS WEAK!!!!!
Oh yeah Mutt Romney is a fine example of strength. Wont release his tax returns because he's afraid Obama may twist the facts.
I AGREE....OBAMA IS WEAK! THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE WEAK.
What do you want him to do! Start another war over a film! that got bad reviews. Are you brain dead?
obama got rid of a long time ally of us – mubarak and a devil we know very well who actually cooperated with west to get rid of all its WMD just before nato bombded libya into oblivion – gaddafi, and installed muslim brotherhood as governing body in both countries, see what did the action do the those 2 countries?
nice job obama you did there.
Zakaria... yet again you are right on the dot and you show good deep understanding of the issue. I totally agree with you.
Obama has nothing to apologize about. This trashy amateurish movie was produced by an Egyptian Copt expat who lives in California and who has a criminal record of bank fraud. He has used several pseudonyms and aliases to hide his fraudulent activities, and now he has implicated his host country (he's probably a US citizen as well) into old animosities between Copts and Musilims in Egypt.
As it turns-out, by using the alias Sam Bacile and posting this video online, Nakoula Baseley Nakoula has violated his probation terms and may very well end-up back in jail because of that.
Only one answer here ... NUKE-EM till the glow and any of our western "friends" who compalin should betold to STFU or we take their Billions in federal aid away from them!
Muslims go ballistic at the slightest thing. There is no reason for the US to apologize. No American should ever apologize for the freedoms Americans enjoy (or used to). Islam is simply a political movement (not religion) guided by mass psychosis. Wait until the streets in the US erupt like this, and you'll wish that you had protected the second amendment more. Perhaps the last thing going through people's minds as they are beaten to death by an angry mob is "I wish I had a gun."
Why is CNN describing these atrocities as "protests?" These people are not conducting protests, they are committing acts of violence. There is a huge difference, and CNN has it wrong.
And the Watts riots was a minor domestic disturbance. Then there was Chicago 1968....
What we need to do is pull ALL troops, businesses, etc. and suspend ALL aid to the Mid East, and DON'T BUY ANY MORE FOREIGN OIL.
I guess you plan on pushing your car where ever you need to go.
I'd rather WALK than pay some Arab nation for their oil that goes to funding terrorists and their organizations. Think about that the next time you FILL your tank.
Mr. Obama must apologize for the action of his fellow citizen, who made a movie insulting our beloved Prophet; and I would encourage Muslims to stop buying products Made in USA. I, as a businessman, would definitely stop buying products from American companies. Violence would not solve anything, but when we use our money and brains, then we can make our points loud and clear.
Good call Akbar Abdul Kalad! Stop buying our procducts and take your prophet muhammed else where. Muslims, alwasy rioting and killing, blowing goats and beating their wives.
NO APOLOGY NEEDED. I'm sure Allah is fine. He's doing nothing as usual.
How many of your "leaders" appologized for the dozens of terrorist attacks perputrated by your people across the world? ... including 9/11
Do you facts about these allegations, or just following your brainless leaders in Congress
Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnn!!!!!! ZZZZzzzzz..... ZZZZZzzzzzzz......
You're as foolish as those people burnnin down buildings & cars overthere. Even if Obama did something uncallef for like appologising, these people would still continue with their foolish riot. It is clear that both, you and they do not understand the concept of freedom and democracy! Seems like they live more peacefully under a dictator ship. Perhaps we should have just left Mubarack, Gadhafi and Saddam in power.
So-called Democracy and Freedom of Speech come with responsibilities.
Abdullah – you loser, you troll American web sites. Its not like we are pouring over your insane dribble. No one can take you clowns seriously.
It is a very good explanation of what is happening in the ME. I agree the movie is ridiculing the founder of the Muslim faith but there have been also multiple movies produced by Hollywood and Europe about Jesus which were offensive to the Christian faith. Christians were not that happy, but no one died and the producers and the distributors were not threatened with death.
These societies have to ignore these kind of expressions, because they are isolated to a few individuals and they are part of the guaranties of "free speech and expression" in the West.
Leaders in the ME, should inform these street people that a two bit movie is not an issue they should be excited about. Like the Christians slowly did, they should get out of their dark middle age mentality and ignore these type of events.
Should the president apologize? No. He should tell these extremists to join the rest of the world or they will be eradicated. I have no tolerance for bigots that torch buildings. This was a private citizen, not even American apparently, who made a dumb movie. So what? This is called free speech and the United States government had nothing to do with it. Get a life, Psychotic Muslims, really, get a life. I do not care what the justification is – violence is violence, and if you want to push your extreme ideology down people's throats through force, F U! We'll come after you. By the way I'm a liberal; I've just woken up.
The few Muslims who perfrom such acts violence (and it is very few) should be reminded that the Prophet Muhammed would never condone such acts of violence against innocents.
Muhammed did not care what men thought of him; he only cared about what God thought of him.
May we pray for blessings upon all Jews, Christians, and Muslims – especially the few which forget from time to time that they all worship and seek the blessings and mercy of the same One God. They are all brothers and sisters.
maybe you are right about "Prophet Muhammed would never condone such acts of violence against innocents." because muhammed and pretty much all the muslims didn't see infidels as innocents......
the few Muslims who perfom acts of violence, even against members of their own religion, see no one unworthy of death, and that is sad.
but the vast majority of Muslims do not see Jews and Christians as infidels since an infidel is one without faith, and they see Jews and Christians as ones with faith in the same One God.
let us not group all Muslims together in one group as killers because of the terrible actions of a few of them (and it is very few),
just as we Americans would not want these Muslims to group all Americans in one group as being disrespectful and stupid because of the utter stupidty of one filmaker.
I'm sorry.....but right about now I've had it with these barbarians. I'd think about dropping a bomb on every one of those damn countries. I know that's not the answer or PC thing to say...but I'm just SO sick and tired of these protests, marches, burnings and violence everytime they're not happy with someone or something. They are the face of Muslims worldwide at the moment...not the peace loving millions of others that do exist. It's a shame....but now I'm mad.
Islam is not a religion of peace. When the Christian faith is demeaned, ridiculed and it's icons defaced the Christians do not kill and burn buildings! Islam and the extremists are dangerous to world peace and Obama is not helping protect Americans!
The US will never do well in the middle east. Our core principles of freedom and morality directly conflict with the islamic fundamentalist religious principles. They are as horrified at the "movie" the US government and I'd say 99% of Americans had no idea about as we are at the violent protests and deaths from an idiot (my opinion) exercising freedom.
I'm tired of hearing.. "This is not Islam. Islam is about peace". If extremists came in and tried to take freedom of speech away in the US using violent protests the uprising from the middle would be deafening... Where is that in the middle east????
I think "extremist" is not the term to use when this is occuring in 20 countries with no one unified voice in the region speaking out against it.
Amazing how a film that had next to no hits on Youtube – that no one actually knew about – was so well publicized by radicals across the Middle East. Just goes to show that these radicals are well-organized and have their tendrils deeply embedded in all of these societies. It also shows that they're just looking for an excuse to have their proxy army of duped ignorants rise up, and they will use that army to attack Americans.
What needs to happen ASAP is a total shutdown of all USA aid to these muslim countries until the extremist governments in these muslim nations teach their people about how things are in the USA. The freedoms we have didn't come free and they shouldn't reap the benifits for oil. This is insane!
They wont teach them. Then the people will wise up and over throw them. They like'em dumb.
Then let them starve until they do! No skin off our noses.
It reveals that the radical right of Islam is completely insane and stuck in the dark ages. It also reveals that the Imam's of Islam who believe in peace are not willing to step up and condemn these actions. The reaction of the middle east has been blasé at best. It just goes to show that, unfortunately, violence seems to trump intellect in the middle east at almost every stop. I say we pull out of the middle east all together and let them have what they obviously want: crazy zealot dictators in charge of nations stuck in the barbarism of the stone age.
I really think that these Middle Eastern Muslims do not understand free speech.
Hey! Here's an idea. Pull out all Americans in the area and use a new WMD, Horribly stupid and offensive Muhammad movies. We could make one a day (very low budget, did you see it?) and post them on the internet and all the radicals would riot themselves to a frenzy and within a month or two will all be dead or so tired they cannot get out of bed. Then, to keep them in bed, we can sell them beer that they can buy with the money we give them.
They don't understand, because it's not allowed where they live. This is how they were brought up aka taught!
@ABQ Girl
Seriously... your're probably right. They have no idea what freedom really is. I suppose many of them really believe that the US Gov't made the film... and it was just an excuse anyway. The riots were obviously planned by manipulative clerics. Sad.
Dirty, stupid muslims.
Should the President apologize? Certainly not. The President is not responsible for the actions of irresponsible people.
He most certainly should apologize to the Citizens of the US for making us the laughing stock of the world and the continuing soft target of the middle east.
Who is laughing at us? Must be the voices in your head.
He already has and all of this is his fault...
I want to create a nice sculpture depicting Muhammad. Anyone got a spare 1000 lb block of compresses feces?
You'll need a lot more than that!
Stop all aid to the middle east. Close all Embassies and consulates. Cancel all visas, and stop immigration into our country. Use and expand oil and natural gas production in our own country for OUR OWN use (take crude oil and gas off the commodity list). Let the middle east degenerate in to the pile of manurer it is.
It's just that simple.
Quit acting rediculous!! If you loved the Prophet Mohammed so much, maybe you should be acting the way he would want you to be acting, AND this is not what would make him happy!! Any reason to hate, hurt, burn things, and cause chaos. Sheesh!!
We should have hired this film maker a decade ago. They have done more damage to their cities at no expense to the U.S. than all the bombs we have dropped collectively. The man has saved us billions and proven the ignorance in his film is actually true. (sad to see this really) They hold us responsible for one so we should do the same and wage all out war now that their country assassinated on of our ambassadors.
Another point, don't think for a second that this is all just because one person made a movie. I'm sure all of those emails that go around saying Obama is a muslim and wants to put forth sharia law and blah blah this and blah blah that about how bad islam is and how comments like you see here on the board about these people haven't done anything at all to anger them. Course not... I'm not apologizing for their activity as it is of course nonsensical moronic and ignorant behavior fit for those with a brain the size of a maggot but surely, don't expect it all to because of just one person. If you leap to that conclusion and think at all for a second that their belief system in an imaginary being is at all any different in principal then yours. Think again. Every religion has crazies, these just have the microphone at the moment.
These people obviously do not understand freedom & democracy. They seem to be live more peacefuly when they are oppressed under a dictatorship. Seems to me we should have left Mubarack, Gadhafi and Saddam in power.
@Bull9 I agree with that. They are happier when they are oppressed.
That's why we should stay out of middle east business. If Muslims want freedom let'em earn it themselves. It's a no win situation. They quickly forget what you've done for them.
I'm just wondering, did ANY muslim groups in US condemn the violence? I knew some said they though the dead diplomats were good men, but I hasn't heard they say the violence actions were wrong........
News Flash:
I found the maker of the video !
He was living in our attic stealing Wi-Fi from the neighbors with his iPad and making videos. He also had a Craigslist account and was selling our kids toys.
We called the authorities and they now have him in protective custody.
It is unclear at this point if he has retained a lawyer...
news flash: freedom of speech is a right not a crime in US
The video is a FAKE.
@ Leo
REALLY!!! Wow, you mean its m=not really Mohammad in the movie? Who knew?
It's outrageous that this film has to continue to be mentioned. Even worse it the thought that perhaps the President should apologize? This is just murder and vandalism. The US should just protect their people and property and punish the perpetrators.
Basically, the demonstrators don't understand the nature of democracy and the freedom of speech that goes along with it nor do they comprehend that violence will only breed violence. They are simply joining in the mass hysteria in order to demonstrate how religious they are. How hypocritical! At the same time, the maker of this film has the blood of the ambassador and the other Americans on his hands. How dare he endanger of the lives of Americans because he wants to spew his hate! And now he hides! He should be exposed for the bigot he is!!!
This whole uprising reveals that their are hoodlums and misguided individuals in every walk of life. The moment the big dog lowers the boom you will see hoodlums scrambling like roaches for cover.
"We have met the enemy and it is us," Pogo
Dizzying, the dying. We need to free ourselves from foreign oil. The middle Eastern people are going to live the way they live. It's been thousands of years. What else are we suppose to do? They riot. I think we need to leave them alone. It's not my first choice because of the human rights violations I don't think we can change an entire society that has lived in their own violations. The smartest thing I think we should do is become oil independent. It hurts when it comes to human rights violations. When it comes to reality. we to leave them alone.
It's an interesting comparison of the bottom rungs of humanity, isn't it? On one side an American with extreme blindness, and on the other side entire mobs of Muslims with extreme blindness. As a planet, we need to get out of this "obey the lowest common denominator" mindset. It's the sort of thing that would have us in the dark ages and building minarets instead of mars rovers... Is the "don't cast your pearls before swine" thing Bible or Koran? Must be Bible, 'cuz nobody in the middle East digs on swine. Either way, it comes to mind with both of these extremes. Keep yer pearls, people!
I just took an Allah and wiped my Obama.
Presidential points to consider making in world public address:
We have freedom and it brings success. This means we have to put up with people saying crazy or contrary things every day. But this freedom to think differently is what makes us strong. Every body works, but we allow peace in our society to "wrong" thinkers and speakers. We all disagree on all things, and stay at peace between us- that's our agreement! No dictatorship of mind or ideas is allowed, or obedience requirement of practices. Not since we gave up Kings for freedom 200 years ago.
You have tremendous capabilities, and resources, and wealth, it just needs to be distributed properly, through equality of opportunity, to all. This includes education and training. There are dozens of successful and prosperous countries besides the United States that you can look to for the formula of freedom and success if you want. Everyone has this formula now. So insofar as Muhammad said to be free, the truth will set you free, you should follow it, and it will happen. The people of Singapore and Uganda and Uraguay and Kashmir have it, not just the US and Europe. Our colonialism is now almost over, only in Israel is land still being taken. We supported your present freedom from a political dictator. You are free now if you wish to build better conditions. We're not in your way at all. Start building, Look to the model you prefer from 200 societies. Pick the house design you like and start building. We'll help- but not until you are civil and peaceful.
The War between 7 and 6; Isaac and Ishmaels descendents is coming!
I just hope that Sam Bassil dosen't turn out to be another Gavrilo Princip. World events can turn on the actions of small angry men. Particularly in the information age we live in. The world needs to take a collective step backward and look at this criticaly and logicialy and let cooler heads prevale. That is how you defeat extreamism and hatred.
The President and Congress should be apologizing to the citizens of the United States for sending these psychotic boneheads billions of tax dollars - in essence paying them to despise us. When will people wake up and see this religion for what it is? Hateful, violent, misogynistic, intolerant, bigoted and bored.
Don't worry, when the oil dries up. So will the middle east.
Islam and middle easterners in general are a bunch of glass-jawed whack-jobs. Since when can anyone expect sanity from them? Their women are downtrodden door mats. What a pathetic culture! If they were confident in "Islam", they wouldn't be bombing the world. These clowns are dragging up the rear of humanity.
This is how Obama rolls. All this mayhem has NOTHING to do with Obama's support of our enemies last year during the Arab Spring. It has NOTHING to do with Obama bragging about killing bin Laden. It's because of an amateur movie made by some guy.
Uh yea. ....pathetic!
I will tell you what it means... no matter how many lives we lose, how many billions we spend to help them they care less. They are ungrateful and we should NOT spend another dime in any of those countries. Not one penny of my tax dollars should go there and not one more American life should be lost there.
What do they "REVEAL"? They reveal that murder and mayhem and acting like rabid animals are perfectly acceptable to Moslems, but movies and freedom of expression aren't. They reveal that these people are so sickeningly brainwashed that they totally freak out if somebody actually has the nerve to question their stupid religion (ALL religions are stupid and based on lies anyway), and that they will use this "religion" as an excuse for violence...They reveal that there is no reasoning with Islam, and that underneath all the codswallop they prate about being "peaceful" they are really the enemies of all the Free World.
this just shows how deep the hatred is of civilized Western countries with the Muslim world. This little film was just a pretense to start violence. Anyone who thinks the great Muslim war isn't coming is deluding themselves. Stop all the aid we send over from our tax money. It is time to face reality that we have no allies in the Muslim countries. They are ignorant and violent societies and should be treated as such .Arab Spring, give me a break. They are still in the Stone Age. Our President should not apologize or make excuses.
Ahhhhh the joys of the information age. News and information accessiblility has a downside afterall. Snippets of information to the ignorant is not exactly a good thing yet that is the information format out there. They will always take information at face value, never ever critically thinking about issues. Information dispersed out of contest is the norm. And so this gives birth to the rise of the ignorant, the power of the fools.
President Obama should send these counties hand written apologies taped to the nose cones of nuclear cruise missiles & sign them, with love -The American PEOPLE
That's what I've been saying!
Nuke the entire Middle East leaving just enough area with out radiation to get in there and take the oil out!
Those people are backwards and inhumane so they don't diserve to be on this planet any more!
Add with hugs and kisses from the USA
It reveals that some cultures have advanced further than others.
Remind me again- How many died due to all the riots over Life of Brian?
@Sarcastro
Good point! Life of Brian. I actually didn't like the movie. But, well, that was Bush's fault.
Is any one else tired of the whining, thin-skinned, cry baby Islamist (Muslim) finding any excuse to "protest" or kill innocent people in the name of their "prophet"??? I know I am and a few well placed drones overhead would definitely quiet the as*holes!! The world will be a much better place when they are exterminated....
So how about the US responds in kind. I am offended by people burning the US flag. Why don't we drop bombs on the heads of all that desecrate our flag and speak badly of our Country? That's something that these people understand and would respect.
They do not wear towels on their heads. They wear sheets. They are sheetheads.
2 points
Just because freedom of speech doesn't exist in most Muslim countries doesn't mean that the citizens of those countries aren't aware of that right existing elsewhere. They may live in a country where movies and newspapers are simply government mouthpieces, but they are perfectly aware that this is not the case in other parts of the world. It is foolish to say that the Muslim world cannot fathom the concept of an independent press and entertainment industry. They understand it perfectly well. I have seen clips from the movie on YouTube, and I admit that what I saw was offensive, but it's no excuse to take to the streets and burn down a sovereign country's embassy and kill innocent people. This movie is just an excuse for people in the Muslim world to do what they have always done – riot, kill, loot, and otherwise behave in a grossly irrational way.
There is no doubt that because these protesters live in nations where everything goes through the "government filter" before it is broadcast or otherwise disseminated, they more than likely believe the same thing is true in the U.S.. Therefore they believe the Mohammed movie was "green-lighted" by the U.S. government.
Well said, Fareed.
85th Academy Awards
Foreign Language Film
'And the Oscar goes to Innocence of Muslims directed by Sam Bacile.'
Supposed Jewish people reacted like to this to all the times they have been shown with horns or that the Holocaust didn't happen? Draw a cartoon on have some obscure internet film be offensive to Muslims and all hell breaks loose. These countries are NOT our friends. The governments encourage this behavior and probably rrecruit people to burn the embassies. Oh but please don't stop US grain and rice shipments because we are poor countries living in the desert. Well, enough is enough. Pull the plug..
Well said. Thank you
Headline Reads >>>> ( Protesters set fire to American school in Tunisia's capital ) Well good for them. There all dumb as a BOX of ROCKS anyway they didn't need it.
"President Obama is an ARAB and a puzzy to boot"! He should always bend over take a beefstick up his sphincter and apologize to his sueriors!!!
Go to hell.
As Zakaria said, the world is divided into two factions. It is not Muslims and non-Muslims. It is not East and West. It is not moderates and extremists. It is not democracies and dictatorships. The two camps are the educated and the uneducated. The violent reactions to this bad piece of satire are a symptom of the ignorance wrought by poor education standards which render minds gullible, easily manipulated and quick to anger, while the educated who understand the rights and responsibilities of freedom of speech must be asking why their governments are pouring fuel on the flames: to distract from their own domestic problems and appeal to the morally outraged in their political base. Education is the antidote to extremism. If extremist notions thrive in darkness, education is light.
@MJA, I disagree. I do web development and have an excellent grasp of the English language. I would consider myself well educated. But some terrorists can do things (like build nuclear bombs) that I can barely fathom. They aren't all uneducated. What they are is weak-minded. The weak-minded have no sense of purpose in their lives and so look to someone else to give it to them. The weak-minded require followers to obey them so they feel like they have some control over their own lives. They kill those who disagree with them because they are too weak to defend themselves intellectually. Education is not the antidote for hatred; self-respect is. And that is something that is as sorely lacking in the Western world as it is in the Middle East. We just have more ways to mask the emptiness than they do.
Academic achievement by itself does not guarantee a well-rounded education and a working moral compass. The scientists of Nazi Germany can bare witness to that. What I am talking about is the type of education touted by Carl Sagan that places critical thinking at its core. If children are taught to demand to see the evidence for outrageous claims, to question and not merely acquiesce to authoritarian "knowledge" and to value the pursuit of truth regardless of its consequences to deeply held cultural tenets and beliefs, they will grow up with a certain immunity to the false gods of vested interest and sectarianism.
When you define yourself by your beliefs, any attack on your beliefs is an attack on you.
I am not my beliefs, and whatever you say about my beliefs says more about you than it does about me. That's why I don't take things like that personally, and that's one of the reasons I don't go around killing people I disagree with.
Not that I'm such a great human being, but I'm better than the lot of these.
What when some Muslims criticize other religious figures including Christ. this is absurd behavior..
this shows the level these people are..
"Extremists don't speak for Libya (or Egypt)".
That is nothing but bull droppings.
The extremists speak for the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda, who control these countries right now
So they DO speak for these countries.
When Are we going to get rid of the subversives in our government that are putting our country in greater and greater danger?
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cut off the billions we give them...leave them to fight amoung themselves,drill for our own oil,get rid of anyone that protests drilling in our country,make them live in the mid east,
this is purely sponsored and instigated by extremists hiding behind common innocent people in these poor countries..
Obama should just ignore these things. Just throw a bucks and they will shut...
We should go and Burn something. HMMM
Why is this clown, Fareed Zakaria, allowed to post on CNN? Perhaps becuase CNN is clueless, worthless, and useless? Perhaps because CNN shares Fareed Zakaria's lack on morals and integrity? Perhaps because CNN preferes to tear apart America as much as this clown does?
My 2 cents is that they are not made about the movie, they are using the movie as an reason to rebel. The countries where these people live have their people so repressed and scared that they are taking out their angry on the movie and the U.S. instead. I would bet that if they were free to express their issues with their own government and religion that they would not be mad at us, but who else can they be angry with without worrying that they or their family will be punished. This is just a way from them to let go of that angry. Their governments are fine with it because it take focus away from them and allow the release of all that pinned up resentment they have for their governments. They are not free to express their discontent or to question their government without fear of their life.
Fear and hatred is how government controls their people. Government must have an enemy and they must keep their people afraid of them, so they can say “We are here to protect you from them, so we may take away your freedoms, but it is for your own good!, It is better here than there!”
Its also because those countries often times do not have any social welfare. There is high unemployment in Egypt, little social welfare, and a bunch of angry young men with nothing to turn to but the Koran. So what do they do instead of working to develop positive change? They listen to their fundamentalist handlers tell them to attack embassies. It's easy to control the ignorant masses, just give them a cause...
If these folks get offended so easily, it is best they disconnect from the rest of the world. I personally do not give a flying flip about Mohamid (intentionally spelled wrong, too bad if you don't like it).
No one has anymore sympathy for the Arab/Muslim culture. I do not plan on being politically correct anymore since anything seem to set these people off. Bring any foreign aid packages back home, lets move our resources out of these radical countries and let them deal with being stuck in a century long past. You all can come back and play with the modern world once your tantrum is over.
How can you expect Allah to show mercy on you, if you can not show mercy to those who offended you ????
That is my question to Muslims !
Islamic Radicals need to be targeted and systematiclly eliminated like rats, They want a Jihad lets send them to Allah....
They clowns were looking for any stupid thing to protest over.
I have seen this movie, poorly made, and overly stupid....
Let us not forget that a similar movie was mad about Jesus Christ but you didn’t see Christians behaving like criminals or terrorist. Freedom of speech should end when it offends others. Any decent person would be outraged at a movie like that but it does not justify the kinds of ignorance, intolerance, bigotry and self-righteousness we have witnessed over the last few days. The world is getting tired of this kind of behavior it is a poor reflection of the Muslim people. The violence will not resolve anything and in the end it would have not worth it. The True Muslims should not allow their religion to be high jacked and manipulated by anyone for unworthy cause or political gain.
The President should not apologize.
I find it sad that one set of boneheaded religious fanatics should be on here posting and poking fun at another set of boneheaded religious fanatics. It is good to respect another person's religion, but personally I feel the world would be a better place without it....this is the 21st Century.
I also think you must have missed all the uproar and protests surrounding "The Last Tempation of Christ" and "The Da Vinci Code"
The sand people will never be happy unless they are killing people or destroying things. It's been their nature from the beginning of time. They have all these new found billions so why are more than 90% of their people still living in poverty? It's their greedy own people that take all the wealth for themselves and cut everyone else out. "Let them eat cake!!" It's disgusting what these people spend the country's money on and they get away with it.
you are so correct.
Overblown? Just a "periodic crisis"? Four people were killed. Four lives ended, gone. Everyone needs to step back. no politics, no religion. You can't blame a few instigators , a few hundred people, who riled up a crowd. It is hate, it will not change. What do you tell the wives, girlfriends, parents of those killed? Come on Fareed – don't insult us. This is a complete failure of leadership and it is unfair of the media to explain any of this away with any sort of tolerance for those who will think nothing of human life.
No this is not a failure of leadership.
that is the simple way....if all of us would stick together,which will never happen.
For Gods sake.It was just a small movie..are we in 21st century?
A small movie made by an Egyptian nonetheless. Retards...
Do these towelheads realize that an Egyptian made the film? Religion, poverty, and ignorance is such a lovely combination. Adios Egyptian tourism. Way to shoot yourselves in the head towelheadia.
Why is our media calling these folks protesters, when they called Penn state students rioters last year?
When will the world finally realize that religion is just a vessel for hatred and violence. Imagine what the headline would ready today in a world were religion didn't exist.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY WE (US) ARE IN THE MIDDLE EAST? THEY DONT LIKE US DONT WANT US THERE WHY ARE WE THERE. I HAVE NO CLUE WHY. Hopefully no one else gets hurt over this film on any side.
It's getting absurd to say extremists are a very few minority. How many does it take to go from a few to too many? Remember the cartoon? MILLIONS of Muslims AROUND THE WORLD violently protested. They can no longer be called a select few. Islam is like any other religion; it has denominations. And there are denominations that approve of violence for protesting. Those denominations have now taken over and are the voice of Islam. If Muslims don't like that their religion has been hijacked, then they need to do something about it. It's not up to everyone else to accept the extremists. Muslims are no longer peaceful religious followers. That moniker no longer applies. If Muslims want it to apply, then they need to work a little harder on toning down the extremists. Extremists have become the norm and the voice of Islam. It's time the peaceful followers of the religion do something about it.
There is much I do not know about Islam, but what I really don't get is wans't the prophet Muhammad a pacifist?
No. He was anything BUT a pacifist. The guy created an empire in the Arabian Peninsula, and you can't do that unless you're a good general. I'm willing to believe he was an honorable and exemplary man (unlike how he was portrayed in this movie everyone is so angry about), but he was certainly no pacifist.
Can't we drill in Mexico!!!
Al Jazeera and other news agencies need to make it very clear that an Egyptian, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula (another towelhead), was the one who made the film.
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Fareed, I will admit I didn't bother reading your article because I don’t have to, I already know the answer to your above question: Here's the answer:
There's a scene in the Flintstones movie where Fred (played by John Goodman) is reading his newspaper made out of stone or concrete material that he would often get clobbered over the head with. The headline stated "Mideast peace talks break down" Translation: 50,000 years from now long after the Israelis have moved to Miami Beach, Boca, etc. these maniacs will be fighting with one another, blaming everyone but themselves for their problems and advocating terrorism. That's it, give up, move on and talk about something rational , stop trying to analyze and make sense out of these disorderly worthless animals. They live like miserable pigs, thus they can’t live unless they make everyone else miserable.
Are these protesters aware that their countries have embassies in the United States? How would they respond if they saw hordes of angry Americans storming over the walls of the Egyptian or Libyan embassy, burning its flag, killing its inhabitants? Does that even occur to them? And even if it does, do they even care?
No.
Why? Because they know that Americans are civilized people who don't equate protesting with rioting and murder. They know that we will respect the sovereignty of their country, even if we don't agree with them (unless it's Iraq...different story). They know that a film or TV show or newspaper article coming from this country doesn't necessarily represent the position of the U.S. government, and in fact quite often opposes the government's position. And finally, they likely don't have any friends or relatives working in those embassies in this country, and therefore don't give a damn if they live or die. Arabs have a saying – "I and my brother against my cousin; I and my cousin against the stranger". Basically, it means that they could care less about anyone outside their family, even their own countrymen.
I think Valdimir Putin knows a whole hell of a lot more about what's going on in the world than Fareed Zakaria. He's deal with Islam next to and even within Russia and the former Soviet Union and knows how these people think. Their religion makes them who they are. "As a man thinks within his heart, so he is." (book of Proverbs) We ought to be working with Putin and not pay attention to any Musllim because their loyalties lie overwhelmingly with the Islamic world, and not the west; especially not with Christians and Jews.
The rag heads hate us. They have always hated us and they always will. Their civilizations have a 5,000 year head start on the US, but they blame us for all their problems – that speaks directly to their intelligence. We need to get out of there, quit giving them money and let them do what ever the hell they want to do.
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this is exactly what i mean
they are radicals trying to break the peace created between the US and middle eastern countries
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....I wonder how we would respond if someone made a movie about Jesus Christ that was similar to this movie made about Mohammed? Moslems believe Jesus Christ is a prophet along with Mohammed; however, Christians do not recognize Mohammed since he came along 600 years later....just historical sequence. Maybe part of the problem is that some Moslems believe they would never portray Jesus Christ the way Mohammed was portrayed in the movie? Thoughts??
Christians are ridiculed all the time. Remember the Cross with Urine "art" exhibit in the NYC Museum of Art? I dont recall any Christians burning the building down over it. The most popular Broadway show "The Book of Mormon" makes fun of Mormons...do you see Mormons burning the building down and killing the actors?
Obama is planning on asking Congress to forgive Egypt's billions they owe us?? WE NEED THAT MONEY! If he apologizes, he'll lose a TON of respect! We have NOTHING to apologize for as WE didn't make that film!
He's already apologized once...what's two three more times?
"It is a strange fate that we should suffer so much fear and doubt over so small a thing. Such a little thing." Booramir
That's what happens when religious, poor, stupid people sit around and try to come up with something to do. Here's a suggestion...go get a job or, at least, go home and take care of your families instead of throwing rocks at cops and buildings.
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Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, the film maker, was born in Egypt. You idiots are protesting the actions of one of your own people. Here's a suggestion...realize what you're protesting before you go out and start throwing rocks. Why aren't you looting and raiding Egyptian government buildings and businesses? Religion, poverty, and ignorant, stupid people...what a combo!
The irony is they can't make a great movie about Mohammad because they believe they're forbidden to depict the Prophet. While that makes sense to free people, suggesting that will send these extremists into a greater fury. Added irony, this proscription appears to be a misinterpretation. They're informed that depicting Mohammad may lead to his worship as a god, but that's the only justification for prohibitions on his depiction. Maybe they should loosen up their understanding of the text?
One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. - Winston Churchill. How's that working out for you Mr President and Madam Secretary. Get ready folks, this is nothing compared to what comes next.
So let's just look at facts. There is not one religion nowdays that causes so much problems in the world. I've seen and heard so many jokes about Jesus, but still haven't seen worldwide protests and killings in the name of Christianity, for example. Sure in the middle ages it had it's dark moments but come on people, it's a new day... 21st century, hello? Name one at least one big worldwide religion with so much hate towards anyone who is different. Not all Muslims are terrorists.. but for some reason almost all terrorists are Muslims. Coincident?
I can see God, Jesus, Mohammed and Abraham all sitting up in Heaven shaking their heads and saying "Stupid humans. they totally missed our point".
Good call. But I think Abe would be the wise one in the bunch.
You are right....that Abe Lincoln was one smart SOB....LOL
Maybe APPLE can build a few thousand cell towers over there and air drop a few thousand IPADS and then Maybe just Maybe ( if they figure out how to work them ) they will realize the dinosaurs are dead.
Fareed Zakaria got suspended for plagiarizing. Now he's back with his LIB SPIN. Not drinking this coolaid.
Islam is beautiful!!!!! the holly koran is amazing!!!! and prophet muhammed, is the last messenger from god after jesus. islam is all about enlightenment, of course we can't base it on individual actions carried out by some people, whatever their religion is.
I wouldn't trad Islam if i was the only muslim left from 1.6 billion,and still counting!!
I just did a little poo in py pants. Oh Jesus loves you. Oops pooped again.
Mohammed is a dooshbag
Hell no.. Prez. Obama must not apologize. This movie was produced by an Egyptian citizen. The movie was filmed in the mighty USA but does not represent the mentality or sentiment of our nation or government.
@LUAR "Hell no.. Prez. Obama must not apologize. "
Um...for all practical purposes he already did, and profusely at that. So did Hilliary. American should be embarrased that they have such leaders.
America has dropped more bombs than any other country. During the Vietnam Police Action the US dropped more tonnage of bombs than all the bombs dropped in Europe during WW2. What did the Vietnamese ever do to the USA? Nothing, they just happen to be part of that time periods, "Axis of Evil" also known as the Communists. Today we have serious economic troubles and so we drop bombs on the people that have oil. We need to protect our rackets from those who would use their resourced for their own good. Someone said here, "USA Is the best". Of course it is, no one drops bombs on us and we consume 9x more than everyone else, via theft and coercion, which in turn makes people angry. It is pretty simple. Insecurity is the cost of your easy, lazy, stupid, over weight life...America.
It seems as though the "Arab Spring" is more like an "Arab Fall". From the actions going on, they seem to be embracing an intolerant form of Islam more and more, and I'm not just talking about the leadership of the various countries but the populous. This indicates that they are regressing due to their religious beliefs rather than progressing into the 21st century of tolerance being practiced in every advanced country of the world. This Arab Fall is leading to an Islamic Winter unless Muslims wake up and denounce all these incarnations of extremism.
Maybe I watch too much SciFi, but sometimes it seems like there's some rip in space-time, and 7th Century barbarians are pouring through. It can't be true that such a large percentage of the human race are such mind numbed, hateful barbarians? This doesn't bode well for the survival of the human race. Forget about global warming, asteroids, etc. - how does the human race survive a religion that is at war with everyone and everything?
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, the film maker, was born in Egypt. The film was funded with money from a prominent Egyptian family. You idiots are protesting the actions of one of your own people. Here's a suggestion...realize what you're protesting before you go out and start throwing rocks. Why aren't you looting and raiding Egyptian government buildings and businesses? Religion, poverty, and ignorant, stupid people...what a combo!
can we please just cropdust the entire middle east with the plague or something?
Can I get an Amen my brother????
If we really want to enlighten these countries that Americans are tire of this radical reactions.
1. We should mount are forces go in take our people out of those countries and bring them back to the USA.
2. Stop all funding to these countries, no mater what cause they support.
3. We can permit their ambassadors to stay in our country, but monitor them closely.
Then wait for them to come back begging for our money!
The problem is cultural in my opinion. If you look at those crowds they are all young to middle aged men. I would be surprised if many of them have much education or jobs. So they sit around griping about those that have it better than they do and throw themselves into the one things that makes them feel united; Islam. Not far from uneducated American's who fear anyone different from themselves. Its ignorance plain and simple. However, the difference is the Arab world doesn't have a policed society, they have easy access to weapons and their "religious leaders" preaching death to anyone who doesn't believe or follow Islam. What a mess.
Stop sugar coating the problem. What's the common denominator in all of these countries: It's ISLAM.
When I was younger, I thought that Israel was the source of all of the trouble in the Middle East. I've learned over time that Israel is just a convenient scapegoat for Muslims to give license to themselves to act like like the hateful, psychologically fragile homicidal maniacs that their religion conditions them to be. I agree wtih muffin72, Dar al Islam is hopeless, and I suggest Israel broker some deal to purchase land as far away from the Middle East as possible.. maybe lease a part of Namibia or something.. there is no possibility of peace surrounded by a billion psychopaths.
Should Obama apologize? For what? Did he do something wrong?
What a weak, loser president. And Romney's right. He will lie to benefit himself any time.
Ok Brain. Tell us exactly what you want Obama to do. A true republican, no specifics. Get to the point. WHAT DO YOU WANT OBAMA TO DO?
Dropping nukes over the deaths of American's in the riots comparable a reaction as the Muslims rioting and killing people over a video clip. It's a losing move. The one time in our history when we resorted to mass destruction, although a questionable decision due to the number of civilians killed, was at least the appropriate measure to end war against a COUNTRY. We're at war now with an IDEAL. Ideals don't live in any one country, they live in the hearts of people. That's a fight that can't be won with any amount of violent acts.
So many of the posts here are obviously from people who can only think about the next move. As broken as our government is, at least they have the understanding that the situation is complex and every decision is going to have long lasting implications.
The US should pull out of the entire Middle East, cut off aid, and focus on rebuilding our own country. Our cultures can't intertwine, we just don't understand one another. Of course if we do pull out we can all expect the prices of gas to sky rocket. Nothing is free in this world.
Time to cut our losses and hope that Iran doesn't start WW3 by nuking Israel.
What? The laws that govern civilization have been violated and the U.S. is the victim. So WE should apologize? Shame on us if we do.
"What we don't understand about them, I think, is that this does affect a kind of core sense of their dignity and it affects their sense of whether or not we respect them." – We, the sane and rational majority in the world do not respect the religious. It is simply not possible to respect someone who believes myths are reality. This is not different than not respecting someone who honestly believes 2+2=7. Ignorance will never earn respect.
I full agree with you Fareed. There is an extremist element in the Islamic world that plays to gallery and the presence of live TV and social media helps. But, the reality is that frequently, mainstream plotical parties and also Governments, use the expedient of 'rent a mob' to drum up support for their cause and then it becomes hard to control. The Shias used mobs in Bahrain to press their point. What is worrying is that Saudis and others have enlisted the support of Islamists of varying color to promote Wahabism of Salafism, which seem to target the US/West or rather no all-Sunnis. Putin may have exagerated the threat. But, it is a real fear that a larger battle between Iran and Saudi Arabia could make the entire region so unstable that the US/west cannot escape becoming a target of these mobs
"What the Mideast protests reveals"
It reveals to me for the very first time that muslims don't know there own religion. None of em not even their Imans. They are pretenders and hypocrites. You can defeat them with their own doctrine because they don't know their own doctrine.
Of all political reporters, I like and respect Fareed Zakaria the most.
The 1.5 Billion US gives Egypt is for military. Wonder how far their F-15's will fly if we don't donate them spare part?
What these protests are really about is an outright attack on free speech and the idea of individual freedom to speak, write and think as you please. I don't see how these radicals are any different from the Nazis.
They aren't, and indeed Hitler had very close relationships with Arab Muslim leaders.
Adolf Hitler would love these scuz balls.
This is 100% the Streisand effect in practice. No one would have known about or seen this film but for all the rioting and acts of war perpetrated in the name of Islam protesting the film.
ALL religion is a damn joke and ALL religion is some part of every single war that has happen in the past and will have in the future. The killings of anyone over a DUMB religion (ANY religion) shows you how really dumb people AND religion is. You throw stones set small fires then USA throws bombs big enough to kill 100`s of thousands in 1 shot then what? again DUMB religion get`s no one no where
Well, he could apologize; he is soooooooooooooooooo good at it. But think about it. We have freedom of speech, so someone is always going to be saying something to incite these people. They only understand power. This weak from Obama is putting up does not serve us well with these people.
Rommey 2012
I think we should just carpet bomb the entire middle east to a desert. Nothing good comes from there but oil.
This is such a racist and awful comment. I hope that you one day get the hatred out of your heart.
He has a point
Don't forget to use quotation marks and give credit to the original writer of everything you try to pass off as your own work, Zakaria.
Should Obama apologize for freedom of speech? He might. He's out to end those freedoms.
Where did you get that B.S. thought. The president hasn't ended anyone's freedom. You can do the same things now that you could do under bush. Please stop watching fox news.
Gager,
that dinging you hear is the fries are up. After that get a mop for the floor.
I think they need to be shown the consequeces by holding back the aid until they prove otherwise
Muslim is as Muslim does. The only problem with fundamentalist Islam are the fundamentals of Islam.
Islam is a dangerous religion.
The Indian religion of Janism is the pacifist belief that inspired Gandhi. The more fundamentalist a Janist becomes the less we need to worry about them, because they only become more pacifistic. The problem with Islam is that it is fundamentally violent.
These anti-Muslim and anti-Islamic comments are extremely disguising. You do not have to approve of what the protesters are doing but you must realize that they are a small portion of Middle Eastern society. I guarantee that the people making these horrendous comments have never traveled and experienced the Middle East and have not interacted with Muslims in America. Stop living under a rock, this is the 21st century and you will have Middle Eastern or Black, Jewish, Gay neighbors who are active members of American communities. No one is asking you to convert or accept a certain lifestyle. Just be open minded and tolerant. Pick up a book and get over yourselves.
Examining and questioning one's beliefs is never a disgusting act. Religion deserves no special protection from examination. What is disgusting is Islam.
Look no one is asking you to be in love with Islam. But to assume that all Muslims are terrorists etc. is in fact disgusting. How can you generalize about a group of people? Have you ever come in contact with a real life Muslim? I bet not.
I am talking about the religion not the people that are stupid enough to follow a religion with absolutely no evidence to back its claims.
You confuse denouncing a belief for denouncing people. You are operating on fallacious reasoning.
You lost the bet in regards to my knowing Muslims. And I have witnessed the abuses of their beliefs, first hand. It is a foul religion and the most dangerous religion on earth currently.
WOW – Where are all those "nice" muslims?
Why arent those "nice" muslims speaking out against their terrorist family?
Sam Harris on Islam
I think it would be best to pack up and leave the region, let's start concentrating on America.
It reveals what George Friedman (STRATFOR, 'The Next Decade') has said all along – the 'Arab Spring' was all in the imagination of Western liberals. Middle-eastern countries are Medieval societies, and self-determination is different than Western-style democracy, which the vast majority of people in the Middle East do not want. Islamists will continue to gain power and the tiny minority who really want Western-style democracy will be pushed aside as the region descends into chaos (unless new dictators arise to stability the countries, or the military, as in Egypt).
Fareed Zacharia it is very rare when you are misguided but your article playing down the events of Thursday 13th and Friday 14th show that your analysis is completely wrong.
I have been following you for years since Gps Sunday morning was created and it is the first time I catch you on a completely erroneous assessment of the situation.
What should have tipped you is the attack of the German Embassy in Khartoum Sudan because there is absolutely nothing that can connect the US movie that ridicule the prophet to any German citizen or action.
It shows that under any false protest Muslim leaders and clerics can send a crowd of pumped up full of hatred Muslims on a misson to go and kill anybody and specifically innocent Westerners
We have entered a 50 years era that will make Stalin era and Hitler era with their atrocities seems mild in comparison.
We have entered a new cold war era that is not cold but burning with hatred
Winston Churchill would have said: From Afghanistan to Pakistan, from Mali to Tunisia, From Egypt to Libya a cloud of fire and hatred has descended upon the earth.
It is a huge mistake to underestimate a network of Muslim leaders: Muslim preachers called Imams or Muezzins that can spread burning hatred towards any group they choose to destroy with instantaneous and very bloody efficient results.
Eric Lafayette
http://www.fordemocracy.com
Zakria should not hold public office, that would be a disaster. It's like you said he is an apologist. People do not want to live under the spread of fundamentalist Islam. Imagine how the people in France feel when there are Islamic fundamentalists protesting in the street aggressively advocating belief in the "one true god Allah". They are in full force, denying the sovereign government of France's right to exorcize its laws because those laws not in accordance with Islam. This is hegemonic Islamofascism. The global perpetuation of an Islamic fundamentalism that is centered in the middle east. It reminds me of the same fascist propaganda that insisted that there was a biological hierarchy among people, with the white Arian race at this top. It was totally bogus and ridiculous, yet we see a resurgence of it in the form of Islamic fundamentalism. The problem is that it took a world war to defeat it....
No apologies, Obama and the US government didn't make that video. They shouldn't apologize for anything. If anything it's the protestors who should apologize at the very least for ruining other peoples property and killing people who had absolutely nothing to do with that video.
Muslims can't handle freedom and the are fanatical also qoutes from the quran locate: eceptioninthechurch-com/koran.html
at : deceptioninthechurch,com/koran.html
Should President Obama apologize?
ABSOLUTELY NOT !
Listen Americans, you are not alone in this. This is a West civilization crisis. West is civilized and stands for personal freedoms, something which the rest of the world abuses. They are not civilized and dont want personal freedoms.
They enter the West as political and economic refugees, but they want to change the West, reduce it to their monolithic cultures.
Greeks are poorer but more determined, and they stopped the Persian's and Arabs and Mongols(Turks) expansion to West for thousands of years. Your Tolerant Policies invited them to inflitrate West.
Sorry, History proved that tolerance leads to been overtaken.
Greeks condemn these stupid blind acts of terror, and stand by anyone who is wronged, and this instant as in 9/11, USA is wronged.
Sticks & stones can break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
Obiously thats not true – Muslims prove that point every day some of them not only hurt they kill when you use words
He DIDN'T apologize....STOP saying that.....a journalist said he said that.....STOP saying that....STOP saying that...am I getting my point across?
The probelm should be blamed on both the muslim and the non-muslim world.
When we have a racist commercials on tv, it gets banned before people know about it. But we can't ban this video even though it's extremely inappropriate and blame it on the freedom of speech.
All the actors have openly said that the video was made against their consent, then why can't we ban this video. The whole world has condemened it, that's all the protestors are asking for to ban the vidoe, that will be end of any conflicts.
We have freedom of speech. No one has to do anything. If you don't like it, ignore it. That is what intelligent people do!
time for a drone strike at the US Embassy in Egypt!
If this keeps escalating....absolutely!!
thats exactly what i was thinking earlier. evacuate the place after the crowd disperses and when the protesters come back, whack them with a couple of hellfires...all the emabassies experiencing problems. America is in such a spending mood, why not re-build embassies? hey wait, that would even be more jobs saved or created!
Every time we don't stand up to these 12th Century toolbags, we embolden them. They only respect power and every time we apologize we look weaker to them. And to think that the Egyptian government had nothing to do with this, then why was the idiotic video played on state aired TV on Saturday???
Obviously your head is up your AZZ. That's all we do is kill Muslims. Obama has killed more Al-quida leaders than anyone. We've invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Libya and others. These people are uneducated whack jobs. you can't reason with crazy.
>>Should President Obama apologize?<<
Only the "In the Tank for Obama" Liberal media leader Clinton News Network (CNN) ...would even dream of asking this offensive question!! The Obama Administration's behavior in this case is SHAMEFUL and it shows his, so called.."foreign policy" is found in the ashes of our Embassies and the bodies of our Ambassador and Service workers in Libya. Disgusting!!
Religion deserves no special protection from logical examination of its claims. http://youtu.be/7FlGGKZJ1E8
ISLAM is such a great religion. These people are real hypocrites. They are not following ISLAM.
They are following MONEY, MONEY, MONEY coated evil.
Janism is a great religion based in pacifist beliefs on non violence. Islam is foul and violent, it is the most dangerous religion in the world currently.
Now I am usually a very patient person. And I really don't agree in the use of weapons of mass destruction. Mainly because even the worst people don't deserve them. I definitely do not think we should use hydrogen or atomic bombs because of the nuclear fallout, destruction and harm to others they would cause. They should never be used lightly. But this problem has gone on way too long and these people don't understand how to love others. So I'm starting to think that it is time to seriously think about using the neutron bomb on these guys and get it over with. I never have wanted that for any country, but these guys have gone way to far and I doubt they will ever change.
They wont change. Their leaders wont let them. When the oil dries up, so will the middle east.