By Ashley Fantz, CNN
Watch Fareed Zakaria’s full interview with author Salman Rushdie on GPS, Sunday at 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. ET
Manufactured outrage such as that seen in recent protests in Egypt, Libya and elsewhere is “much more prevalent and much more widespread” than it was when The Satanic Verses was published, the book’s author, Salman Rushdie, has told Fareed Zakaria.
Rushdie sparked controversy, and enraged Iranian Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, in 1989 with his novel The Satanic Verses, a book widely praised by critics but condemned as blasphemous by Khomeini.
Back then, a fatwa was issued, and on Monday, Imam Hojatoleslam Hassan Sanei raised his little-known organization's original bounty on Rushdie by half a million dollars, to $3.3 million, according to Iran's Mehr news agency. Sanei’s organization, the 15th of Khordad Foundation, made news when it first offered its bounty, but it had in recent years largely faded from public view.
“The death sentence issued against Salman (Rushdie) was meant to dry the roots of anti-Islamic plots, and now by carrying out that sentence the sequence of these anti-Islamic plots could be uprooted and these days are the best time to do that,” Mehr quoted the imam as saying.
Rushdie's new book, Joseph Anton: A Memoir, is an account of the firestorm surrounding The Satanic Verses. But Rushdie suggests that as with the protests over The Satanic Verses, the recent unrest surrounding a controversial video that was posted on YouTube has been managed. “At the time of the attack on The Satanic Verses, what we saw was not so much a spontaneous outpouring of rage as a very carefully manufactured outpouring,” Rushdie told Zakaria.
“There was no doubt that it was highly controlled. You know, there were missives sent out from mosques to all sorts of people and they were all identical to make sure everybody was singing from the same song sheet...making the same attacks on the book in the same words.”
“Looking back at it, you can see that that was one of the early moments at which this project of manufacturing outrage began,” he said. “And that’s, of course, become much more prevalent and much more widespread.”
“And I think certainly, if we look at what’s happening now, this is very much a product of the outrage machine," Rushdie said. “Yes, there’s this stupid film...and the correct response to a stupid film on YouTube is to say it’s a stupid film on YouTube, and you get on with the rest of your life.
“So to take that and to deliberately use it to inflame your troops, you know, is a political act,” Rushdie added. “That’s not about religion, that’s about power.”
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They have seen too many bad things. Now, they just need a solid, steady paycheck from long-term growth, so they can move on and build new lives with and for each other.
On the 15th day of Khordad my true love sent to me, an Islamic retarded monkey.
A perfect match.
Rob1271, you rock mate! LMFAO!
Your remark is offensive!
You've failed to understand that there are many highly educated Muslims, who embrace science and technology. Unfortunately there's a gap in many Middle East countries, there we have a huge majority of popuation that lacks the opportunity to educate themselves and fall victims to demagogic machinations.
your comment actually made my day.
monkey huh you said monkey
Better Monkey than a low slave minded Iranian like you.
I love technology but not as much as you, you see? But I still love technology
You have insulted my monkey. Fatwa to follow.
A fatwa be upon your fatwa! It's my monkey take it or leave it.
Where's my scimitar? Somebody get me a damned scimitar!
I'll bet the monkey's name was obama...
JMon12 – am I the only one who gets your song? Of course, I'm from Idaho where that wonderful song was filmed.
j. von hettlingen,
How typical a German response. The Nazis collaborated with these guys in WW2. In fact the Mufti of Jerusalem was feeding them ideas how to do the holocaust. After the war, German industry helped arm first Egypt and then Iran.
Where are these educated people when their people commit crimes against other religions? They only come out when the world retaliates to their violence. Don't peddle WW2 nonsense here.
rotflmao
Perfect response to the idiots screaming/killing innocents over the silly video.
As for those offended by his remark ... get over it. Your silly outrage makes it even more apparent the bias you live within, because it clearly wasn't applied to all Muslims. Just the loons.
Don't look now, but your agenda is showing.
There once was a trollop called MARY, who slept with soooo many men she forgot who was what. Then one day lord be hold she got pregnant. On not knowing what to do, she invented the biggest damn lie you can imagine, claiming it was god lol, who slept with her.
There once was a cheap trollop called MARY who had a son called Jerry... now true to his mother, he also slept with sooo many men... but did not have the same worry.
NOW FOLKS, HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT AS FREEDOM OF SPEECH?
Of course you are a buffon if you think the real aim is not to provoke and anger you.
A retarted monkey called Jesus.
Monkey see. monkey do.
This could be a replacement for your real father you never heard about......especially with S.L.U.T mother...
That will never happen in our lifetimes there leaders want to keep all the power and oppress there citizens
as long as they keep the majority of there people uneducated the more control they have over them
Kinda like the 35% in Ohio who BELIEVE that President Obama was born in Kenya....That we did not go to the Moon..... That the Holocaust never happened and on and on
Hey, The world isn't flat ?
Even in the US, fundamentalists distrust education. Luckily, our government pushes education. What we will see in Egypt, :ibia, Iraq, etc. is that all of the educated, reasonable people will immigrate and the religious zealots will be left like a residue
in a poorly filtered cup of coffee. Then the west will learn the lesson, "better the devil that you know".
@David in Tampa. Actually I heard a Tea Bagger shout in a rally, "Barack Obama is not American, he was born in Kenya, Indonesia". This is the level of knowledge of Tea Baggers.
@David in Tampa – uh, no, the people that do not believe in the holocuast are democrats, and the people who don't believe in the moon landing are moonbats...
@Chat Pata – Actually, I heard a democrat shout in a rally that "Obama is going to pay for my gas!" This is the level of intelligence of most democrats.
Despite all its problems, the public school system is what helped make America a world power. Free public education was a radical idea at the time. In lots of third-world countries, schools are run by the church. The cure for cancer, or the next iPhone won't be coming from there.
David In Tampa – please provide your irrefutable sources. We'll be waiting....... a long time!
@ImIrish & @Guest
You two are morans.
Mr. Woo: Double moran on you. Yo' mama!
... and guess who gains by that? The oil thieving West maybe?
If only we could JAL, if only we could. 11 years ago 20 madmen fed by some disgusting Imam were led to beleive that they were holy warriors getting ready to take on the "Great Satan" as we have been referred to, and gthey went on to murder over 3000 Americans that fateful day. The Israelis have been telling the world for decades now about this problem,but did we listen? No, and September 11th is what we got. Jews have a saying that was coined after the death machine called Nazisim was destroyed.
11 men you say, George Dubya Bush send hundreds of thousands of our boys on a crusade because he believes his false god told him so. That god was American oil cartel.
Yes, because the VERY first thing that G.W. Bush did when we invaded Iraq was confiscate all the oilz and ship them back here so we could have 99 cent gas again. ^.^
Aaro...I didn't like Bush Either but that didn't happen.
Nuke Mecca and Medina and this problem will be over. They will be upset for several weeks, then they'll just fizzle out. It will be clear to the entire world by then that allah, his dog mohammed, and the clumsy Mahdi, are NEVER coming back. Just park a thermonuclear truck bomb with several miles of the dirty city, set a timer, and.....BOOM. Problems solved. That slimy meteorite they kiss will be gone too. And they can forget about that pilgrimage for the next 300-400 years. It would end their faith in one week. How long will a fool pray to a smoking hole in the ground 5 times daily. Not long. Either their god COULDN'T stop this or he WOULDN'T stop this. Either way Islam will be completely finished. Then once it has happened simply never take credit. Maybe it was the Mossad, or the CIA, or Russia. Perhaps other muslems (they like blowing each other up), could be the EU, NATO, India, or a rogue General with a nuke. Just let it rest in history as a warning and mystery. I'm not joking. Nuke Mecca and Medina now and save Western lives.
"...20 madmen fed by some disgusting Imam were led to beleive that they were holy warriors getting ready to take on the "Great Satan" as we have been referred to, and gthey went on to murder..."
take it your refering to the lunatic Christians Catholics/Protestants/calvinists etc...who have been on a rampage of murder the last 2,000 years..
Or maybe the Crusades, Templars,..money laundering to make wars is something new?
Islam is a plague that must be purged.
Religion is a nuisance that must be kept in its place.
Christianity is a abhorrent disease that claims the innocence of young boys... all Christians should be cleansed.
Islam is my religion..and I am proudly a Muslim.
It is the guide that tells me as a individual how behave positively, be a good parent, be a good individual in society and to love mankind..
it teaches that all people of all nations are equal....
and that we must all respect each other as a nation on Earth....
that black people and white people stand as one..no one lower in status than the other..all equal in front of Allah ( God Almighty)...
that we should learn the good of each other's nations...
That we should looks after our health, our well-being and not harm our bodies or minds with negative influences of alcohol, drugs or anything that harms one's well being and state of mind...
that we love our family, our neighbours and our friends... what goodness we want for us, we should want for them..
that we give of what we can to charity to help the poor, the homeless and the sick and remember the orphans.....
that we learn about the Earth and the Universe and all that is between them..
that we speak well of people and respect each other...
That we give thanks to God ( our Creator) every day or every time of prayer, at dawn, early afternoon, late afternoon, dusk and night fall..
That we give thanks for the blessings of food on the table, for our little children, for our brothers and sisters and our parents...
That we give thanks for every breathe we take...
Islam is peace like the touch of a single petal of the beauty of a rose..but it critics only find it thorns..open your hearts just a little..find what it is that the millions of people who are Muslims from all around the world find in their hearts.
There is gross misconceptions about Islam, but I say " You have your religion and I have mine".
christians and jews are the ones who killed 3000 americans on sep 11. scientific evidence tells the story not your jew controlled media outlet, ur jew run government is too evil and too supid too
once upon a time there were two good jews' jesus and HITLER. we need more to get rid of the garbage that we have to live with in the occupied land of PALESTINE
you know why muslims are angry or against this type of videos or cartoons because its there religious beliefs... you people cant understand because you have lost your religious values... in USA no one can talk about hollow cast.... even it is fact that this is all fraud made up by jews..but laws for this stupidity of hoolw cast exist.... think about it...we muslims never dishonored anyone religious beliefs.
Amir,
Muslims kill anyone who wont convert. If someone converts to another religion FROM Islam, they are killed.
Why is Islam so scared of other religions to the point that they have to force people to convert on pain of death and kill those who want to move away from Islam?
Muslims fight with Hindus, Muslims fight with Jews, Muslims fight with Christians and Muslims fight with other Muslims. Muslims cant even get along with each other!!
Seems to me that all Islam teaches and preaches is fighting and killing.
I have yet to be proven wrong. Sadly.
It's really simple: If it's offensive, don't turn your modem on, don't turn your computer on, don't click your mouse a dozen times to get to YouTube, don't click "play". See, easy! If, it was my call, the so-called Muslim world would rot by itself with itself! In the end, there is no place in the world for two religions like Christianity and Islam! Sooner or later, one will have to be victor. The best anyone could hope for, is for people to grow disenchanted in all religion. Good luck, with that one! For now though, it's all a sham for those interested in keeping their power.
Amir,
Since when does holding so called "Religious values" justify butchering ambassadors of sovereign nations in cold blood – for no fault of their own? The US Ambassador to Libya was a good man, who actually adored the Libyan people and was sincerely trying to help them, instead he got the proverbial "stab in the back", that is truly disgusting and not acceptable in any civilized society. Also like the saying goes, all it takes for Evil to Happen is for Good People to do nothing. I just don't see the so called "good" Muslims condemning the riots and the killings over this dumb movie. All you folks have to do is not click on it and ignore it, it'll die a natural death. But the Islamic wordd chooses to behave like a petulant child, creating a self perpetuating cycle of violence and creating even more hatred in the eyes of the West. Please grow up!!
Our religious values don't include acting like rabid animals and going on a murderous rampage every time we perceive an "insult" to our religion. Our God provides us with protection, he doesn't need us to protect him. He's not that weak.
dont you have a woman you should be stoning or mutilating?
and this is the reasoning you get from "moderate" muslims. making excuses for the violence. this is why we need to unleash Israel .
@Amir
It’s not about understanding, it’s about disagreeing. The difference is we make snide comments on the internet and they murder and riot. Getting the picture yet?
You dishonor your own religion by rioting and killing after being insulted by random people on the other side of the world.
Amir,
I don't like to comment much on news, but I can see that those who are responding to you are irrational. They are psychologically full of cognitive biases. The make the rule out of the example and over-gerenalize from small sample. Looking at a small part of the picture doesn't tell you which the whole picture does look like. They look at the judge the doctrine from a small number of its followers but they don't look into the doctrine its self; rather, they keep replying what they hear from the others. After reading their comments I find that the irrational people who carried out the riots are no different than the irrational people commenting about islam. Both are tantamount in mentality, but different in tongue and faces.
I have never seen a moderate muslim they say they are, but they are not. Anger,violence and radicalism. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, It is a duck. Power over poor and uneducated people is all the muslim clergy is after. Amazing how many truly great ideas have come from the middle east during the dark ages and now with all of the technology available they value mud huts and a religion that is far from logical.
Peter Clarke
The people there have the same view of your people as you do of them and that's the problem. They cannot forget Horshema, Nagasaki, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen and many more. They only look at the violence movies and so on and so on. I lived in the US and Canada and I know that people in NA are different than what they think of; I lived also in Egypt and I know that the people there are different than what you think of. You just derive theorems from the news and they do the same. So who's the one not using the logic?
TamOra,
You are right in that the protests and killings were done by a minority of muslims. I believe that (hopefuly) most muslims do not condone the behavior of the few. However, a judgement must be drawn when it concerns the lives of other human beings. It is not just news that the ambasador was killed in rioting as a result to extremist outrage against a youtube video, it is fact. I believe the main fundamental difference between U.S. ideaology and Middle Eastern ideaology is freedom of religion and speech. We as Americans are so ingrained with the idea of saying, writing, and videoing what we desire to communicate that we fail to understand the concept of killing because of an insult to our religious or personal beliefs. Even if it is done by any minority. And neither do we want to understand the fundmentalism behind killing with those that have insulted us. It is detestable no matter what religion it comes from. Yes, we definitely have serious misconceptions about each others culture. No, those differences do NOT justify murder.
... and that is where we go wrong.
Right in the center of Rome we Muslims should P I S S on the bible and see how the they like it
Hamas: Kill Christians and Jews "to the last one" (youtube – Zjxm3OSy4EE)
Besides has anyone got killed because "The Passion of the Christ"? or "Life of Brian"?
Amir, you are overly concerned with religion. Get a grip! No religion is that important. As a matter of fact, I would argue that if I could snap my fingers and make all the religions of the world disappear instantly, this World would be oh so much better a place to live in.
You know. People from all other religions make fun of each other and sometimes, they even insult each other. And yet, no bloodshed broke out over some stupid religious stuff in the last 500 years or so. But that in the civilized world to which Muslims do no belong. You chose to stay in the middle ages. And you all suffer from extreme form of paranoia and narcissism.
Amir -
The fact that you write that the holocaust is a myth made up by Jews shows what a biased ignaramous you are.
Kindly highlight what is claimed in the movie that is not true: Did Mohammed not sleep with a very young girl? Did he not kill countless people? Did he not order to murder people because they did not follow his made up relegion?
What is false in these claims?
@RAY:what's false in the claims that
thousands relieved themselves on Mary
and she stored the eggs till GOD himself relieved himself on her
and out came Jerry!
I think the best anyone could hope for is for these [all] people to learn there are 300+million US Citizens, we do not have just one voice. There are Americans that truly wish they could support your cause, but when the violence and killing starts. We have no choice but to our backs, please understand this is not personal, its just, we have learned through out our protest history. Nothing gets accomplished when your protest turns violent, you have lost your support base when that takes place. If I wanted to worship a apple tree, it should be of no concerns to anyone, but, if I get upset because someone makes fun of me or my apple tree. This can only happen if I am insecure and question my beliefs, there can be no other truth, that would cause anyone to become violent and state killing others.
Ameen to that
Their cause? Forcibly imposing the oppresseive and evil religion of Islam around the world, and you want to support their cause. You are sick and not an American.
Rushdie is absolutely right. There's enough material in public domain with depictions of Allah Muslims would consider offensive that the radical Islamist would wear himself out just trying to wade through all of it. These were highly planned political acts, not spontaneous.
It is amazing how many Muslins appear to be slaves to their religion. Come on! Get a clue! Stop being so fanatical about religion, get some education, develop critical thinking, become a part of the World. Develop a little sophistication. The most important thing in life is continuing education to uplift yourselves, not this ridiculous pandering to the pedagoguery of a a 6th century religion (much less, a 1st century religion, i.e, Christianity). The sooner people realize that religion is really not particualrly important, the better the whole world will be. That includes ALL religions.
I agree. They are slaves to their invisible man in the sky? Ignorance.
Hell to you Jal. These Muslims will never be satisfied. They are murderers in their hearts and they use thier muderderous Holy Book to justify their killing. I say next time they riot in front of an embassy, we drop some bombs on them and wipe them out.
Hey AL, calm down, relax... why dont you go give your son to a church Vicar to molest for a while huh?
In fact dont worry about the muslims, have you heard about this new P O R N movie called 'Lets bang Mary the trollop'... sequel two 'Who is the gay guys father?'
Its a religiously historic film based on the great Christian faith
oh man,you are as idiot as holmes..... you are one of those who go and kill innocent people... as i watched the news Libyan people offered their lives just to have peace in their homeland,and by that they too mourned for the loss of their friend ambassador STEVENS..so in this regard, as a good christian, I cannot generalized that all muslims are bad,they have life too,they are human beings and created by God..we are all created by ONE, but we only exercise different aproach to show our greatfulness to our creator..let us notbe judgemental...
Lara... You are a Poser! The Koran says Jesus is the Messiah and had no sin. You are not a Muslim....
chirstians are killing everywhere on this earth , afghanstan , iraq , pakistan , etc ,, you people are mad islam is a peace ful religion
Lovely...
youtube. "Palestinian Cleric wants to kill all jews" – whU2qFd89fA
Cannot recall any Muslim condemning this movie nor anyone getting killed/arrested anywhere because of that.
If people would use their brains and think things through, they would realize how stupid all of these imaginary concepts of beings, angels, Satans, fairies, etc., etc., etc, ad nauseum really are. Come on! Think about it. Do you believe in ghosts, UFO's, Jin? If you do, then you are the very person most susceptible to myths, religion, crowd hysteria, manipulation, cults, Jim Jones, the Moonies, organized religion, Hitler, fundamentalists (of all stripes), Manson, the Ayatolah Khomeni, Mao tse Tung, Stalin, Mussolini. Where are the people who think for themselves, who analyze and critique, who don't blindly accept, who question? Ah, I am afraid that the world is seriously lacking in these rare individuals, the few enlightened, rational people who have truly found The Way.
Think Rushdie made the most intelligent and correct response possible:
Rushdie said. “Yes, there’s this stupid film...and the correct response to a stupid film on YouTube is to say it’s a stupid film on YouTube, and you get on with the rest of your life.
“So to take that and to deliberately use it to inflame your troops, you know, is a political act,” Rushdie added. “That’s not about religion, that’s about power.”
yes rushdie is evil himself because he wrote the satanic verses which all came from his heart and then after that the coward hide...it is for his own gain which created agony in the peaceful world..so you who reacted ,you are the loser ,and he is the winner..if he knows eveything about every religion,i dare he writes about Jesus Christ killed brutally by Israelites..the true story about it...freedom of speech...
The Outrage Machine would be an excellent name for a rock band.
how about rage against the outrage machine?
What's dangerous is the rage of a mass of people, who seem to have given up their power of reasoning and submit themselves to blind belefs.
J, what does this have to do with catholics?
that would be outrageous
How about Rage Against the Mujaheddin, or am I trying too hard?
How about rage against Crusaders, Mujahideen, and all religions and their stupid beliefs in fairy tales?
@Chat Pata
Your comment would make more sense had there had been anything like a crusade in the last 100 years. Just because Muslims want to call it a crusade doesn’t make it so. If you are confused by this, research what a crusade actually is.
_Atheist.
A country can be held accountable for what one individual does.!
The Muslims of the world need to get this.
Cannot
There is much Muslims need to learn. Once a pioneer of science and education their leaders realized the danger these concept were to blind faith and were quickly abandoned. You can see the same thing from Christians as well.
an outrage machine cannot work ... unless people are willing to be "outraged" ... or have the wrong value system in the first place.
@clark1v, you nailed it. why would the outrage machine won't work in nonmuslim countries?
The outrage machine DOES work in nonmuslim countries...it's called the Tea Party.
Or NPR
Are you kidding, this very website uses it every day. It is not just the tea party either. CNN and the other outlets all do their best to work everyone into a lather about "women's health", "Wall St. v. Main St.", and "Global Warming".
While doing so you see no coverage of the fact that in places where abortion is widely accepted, it is already widely available, or that there are still plenty of people traveling around the country, going to Disneyland, and buying big TV's even though the middle class has supposedly disappeared, or that things like mismanagement of national forests has largely contributed to the insane fire seasons we have, even though global warming is often cited as the primary contributor.
The media machine, like muslim extremists, have an ax to grind. If a story is close to the narrative it is massaged so it fits the message, and if they are too far outside the narrative, they are ignored completely.
Yea Lisa, how many Ambassadors has the Tea Party Killed? How many Fatwa have been issued by Tea Party members, how many suicide bombs? How many beheadings? Pull your head out.
To Lisa,
Outrage machines like.. Occupy, Code Pink, NOW, MSNBC,
Or when CNN prints a story
@Lisa – tell me what the Tea Party has done to you, personally? You're just another product of the liberal hate machine. Get you head out of it and grow up.
Rush Limbaugh comes to mind...
Agreed Clark1v. Non-violent protests and snipe comments on the internet are not equivalent to what you see in the Muslim world.
The outrage machine works just fine in other countries. Look at the students who rioted over Joe Paterno, the Occupy protests that trashed Oakland, or the riots in LA. There are people everywhere ready to vent their anger at provocations real or imagined.
non yet for the tea party, but soon if mitt wins...wait a few months after the winning, and he will send troops to a country that the repubs choose and boom..hope your kids wont be one of the troops.voters be wise enough....obama 2012...
The less educated people are, the more susceptible they are to the outrage machine.
Like Berkly students in Oakland?
@Frank
lol, you'll need better than a single and rather poor example.
...or receive financial reward.
Bingo!
Sure the outrage machine is everywhere... But i guess its all fun and games until somebody launches an RPG
It's true that everyone wants to and likes to have something to get mad about. (It's the result of cultures that teach people that they CAN'T get mad and that they have to be calm; when there is an outlet for anger it pours out.) When anger transforms into unbridled violence, however, is when the line is crossed. Sacking our embassies is NOT the way to show displeasure. Luckily we as Americans wouldn't resort to sacking their embassies in retaliation; the embers would be fanned into a global wildfire if we were to keep going quid pro quo.
We have this in the US.
Its called Washington DC Politics and it is a method of forcing the people to choose betwen 2 Outragous parties who are out of touch with their voters and would rather argue who is th better 'American' – meanwhile the the citizens they supposily represent are wasting away into a tax slavery for the rest of theri lives.
But we must Choose our Poison, I guess(or rather the electorials will).
Would any parent trust either canidate for US President to babysite their child for 2 weeks? – Let alone 4 years over every US citizen while they have one finger on the 'red' launch button while chanting 'executive order'.
I would have no worries about Ann and Mitt Romney babysitting my child. I wouldn't particularly want the rabidly pro-abortion Obamas around my pregnant wife, though.
Very well stated! Great small article
Madness awaits within dark matter for an entry; when the conscientious stupity cannot correct itself.
I don't think they can sustainably keep up that behavior. Just keep hammering that soft spot until their is no gas left in their outrage machine.
The intention of political/social/religious Islam is to subdue & control the world. No surprise, then, that clerics (imams, mullahs, etc) are behind hatred taught in their mosques and madrasas from which they spread violence.
“So to take that and to deliberately use it to inflame your troops, you know, is a political act,” Rushdie added. “That’s not about religion, that’s about power.”
Yes, well stated. I am in full agreement.
Rushdie's analysis is spot on.
just like my analysis of his mom's f*** pool: too used & battered–presumably by Psalman fukdi
Vote Rushdie for "master ruler" of the Muslims!
he is your Master dog
True. No one has a handle on being offended and outraged like a muslim man! They islamified England by that method, but will be disappointed in America. We aren't falling for it.
Not all Western, American influences are bad and satanic-y- The TV was invented by an American farm boy,
personal computers in a garage, on and on... the outraged would hear about slights 5 years down the road ( otherwise).
this evil man is a responsible for so many death.I am surprise that Ruhsdie Dog still alive
Hog wash! Call your own a dog. Stop insulting my dog. He is a Besenji from Egypt. He doesn't care for Muslims at all.
Name one person he is responsible for killing.
I hate people like you. You constantly blame the victims and never the actual murderers.
He wrote a fictional novel. Give me a break! You fascist!
You have no basis for that ignorant comment....
That's great... kill anybody who dares to criticize. That will stop criticism and instill fear. Ain't religion wonderful?
Isn't Islam wonderful, let's be more specific, because if your going to blame ALL religion regardless of core belief, then that means what a person believes doesn't matter, and we know that's not true. You can't lump ALL religions together because the all have different world views. And BTW Secular Humanism IS a world View and a Religious Belief despite people's insistence it's not a religion, you don't need a deity to qualify as a religion.
No, that is not correct. You can't just label any world view as "religion". Religion, as commonly understood, involves in an essential way a fairytale-type belief in a deity for which there is not a single shred of evidence. This cannot be said of either science or secular humanism. If a view does not involve some literal notion of a "God", then it is perhaps a philosophy, but it is not a "religion". Hijacking the term "religion" and applying it to other, much more sensible and defensible outlooks is a typical stratagem of the religious to try to legitimize themselves - they have no legitimacy of their own, and they know it, so they attempt to usurp it by equating themselves with legitimate views by application of the word "religion" to everything. I repeat, in no sense can secular humanism be considered a religion. I've even seen similar attempts to characterize atheism as a religion! We can't stand for this sort of BS obfuscation of the meanings of words!
@Basho – Quite incorrect. There are many recognized sects of Buddhism and Hinduism (to name a few) that are strict materialists yet these are both clearly religious systems. So your notion that religions can only be those organizations that express belief in a deity is clearly flawed. Yes, your definition is useful for mundane daily use about certain topics and regions but it lacks the technical specificity that is necessary to deal with kaleidoscopic of religious views that have been held throughout world history, unless of course you consider the world to be limited to the shores of Europe over the last few thousand years.
@jonesyman: I don't have time for a lengthy reply. I'm well aware of how the term "religion" has been used to describe philosophical systems such as Buddhism - in which there is no deity, so I submit that such uses of the word simply lead to confusion. The kinds of religion that are at the root of so many problems in the world today (as well as historically) are the theistic ones - which would clearly exclude secular humanism (the point of my original objection) and atheism as well as Buddhism. Anyway, let's use a word with greater "technical specificity" instead: theism. Theism is what we're really talking about, in the context of this article and its discussion, as a groundless and pernicious worldview.
Just to clarify, my religion is the one that coined the phrase, 'if someone slapps you on the right cheek turn to him the other as well." That is nothing like Jihad.
Let's just ignore those pesky Crusades, Inquisition, Salem witch trials, etc., etc., etc....
The reality is that education is the only thing that will free the people. As Christian nations underwent technological advancements, this, in turn, created industry and therefore jobs. Skilled labor requires education, and suddenly the masses had greater access to schooling, etc. Better education means better critical thinking. But this was much easier for Christian nations that already had widespread education – albeit poor – and access to large amounts of wealth.
As the Arab Spring has demonstrated, there is a base from which a similar transition can occur across the Middle East. But these educated individuals have largely lacked centralized leadership and a common message. It seems to me that the "manufactured outrage" – the deliberate ignition of human ordnance – is an effort to subdue those who threaten the status quo. It is an effort to make large poor and uneducated Muslim populations incapable of hearing the message of the Arab Spring by filling their ears with hate.
but the narrative trails off after slapping the other cheek...at that point ...kik some @ss
Have you ever thought that misplaced secularism is even worse? Look at the worst atrocities of the last century. Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, North Korea. All these were the product of secularists. As Rushdie said, "It's not about religion, it's about power."
You need to educate yourself on Hitler a bit more. Religion was a key motivator for him. I don't think anyone is inferring that an atheist is incapable of committing atrocious acts, but when tallying up those acts over the course of history, far more were at the hands of those purporting to be guided by a higher power–and it is generally those that went on for a considerable length of time because the populace bought it hook line and sinker, because "how could God possibly lead us astray?"
No matter how bad it may sound, we need to put a stop to the immigration of all citizens of the Mideastern countries until they get their own house under control. Any MIdeastern students that apply to our universities should be stopped from enrollment and entry into the USA. We should cut off all Foreign Aid to these countries, pull our national interests out including all Military actions, bases (after we distroy them so others cannot just have a turn key operation.) and have a POTUS that has a set and can live up to his promises. We need to get the attention of the Mideastern contries that we will no longer tollerate their sponsored terrorism. If indeed they continue then we are at war and we should target those that plot against us, like the religeous leaders. Teams can set up a mile away and pop them with a single bullet. If they know they will die they will stop this nonsince. In the mean time let their "outrage machine" burn their own home down until they have nothing. All western countries should do the same thing. If China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea want to support them, I say let them. They cannot afford it either. If we have another strike on the USA let it be known that the Kabala will be history, and that will stop most of them in their tracks. Then outfit C-130's with spray booms and spray a line of pig grease along the borders of each troubling country just for good measure.
Fully agree. Don't vote for any politician who doesn't what to stop muslim immigration.
Thank you for the blather. It's nap time.
They all study computer science and they are so technically in-proficient that they cannot manufacture anything other than crude bombs.
The president cannot do a thing about immigration. WE the people can however. Do you hear that you bunch of non-voting cowards?
Why does this sound familiar? I think this was common just before WW II from a certain country in europe...
Not so sure , I think they just want to get away from those crazies too...
Please look up the word xenophobia
Please look up the word "naive".
The Satanic verses? What do you know about the unseen that Islam reveals? The angels and demons that exist in the heavens and earth. Satan and his followers live in a different dimension apart from humans, and whisper evil into the conscience of humans. Angels circulate in the atmosphere to praise God and are able to aid humans when commanded by Him. The Satanic verses he claims? There are clear examples of the ongoing horrors that these demons commit onto people around the world. Mostly against the wicked who are lost or refuse to believe and practice the truth. The devils are triumphant when they get people to preach evil verses. There is no doubt in His book.
Angels and demons? Come on and what about fairies and magical dwarves... Djez it's the 21th century people, grow up in your brain...
Angels and demons are simply our simple-minded labels for the unseen. There are many things we can't see or imagine but history has been repeatedly telling us that it doesn't mean they don't exist or don't operate. Keep an open mind.
Amen. If people would use their brains and think things through, they would realize how stupid all of these imaginary concepts of beings, angels, Satans, fairies, etc., etc., etc, ad nauseum really are. Come on! Think about it. Do you believe in ghosts, UFO's, Jin? If you do, then you are the very person most susceptible to myths, religion, crowd hysteria, manipulation, cults, Jim Jones, the Moonies, organized religion, Hitler, fundamentalists (of all stripes), Manson, the Ayatolah Khomeni, Mao tse Tung, Stalin, Mussolini. Where are the people who think for themselves, who analyze and critique, who don't blindly accept, who question? Ah, I am afraid that the world is seriously lacking in these rare individuals, the few enlightened, rational people who have truly found The Way.
Islamic communites were welcome in some European countries and they came by the droves. They multiply with multiple wives and have many children, and there is nothing wrong with that but they do not adjust to thier host country. Instead they form them own commuites and keep their own laws. They grow at staggering rates and are now taking over countries like Denmark, France, Belgum, and others. Their goal is world domination and the elimination of the nonbeliver or infidels. Either we stop them now or we are doomed.
One of the BIGGEST reasons the protests (outrages) were managed back in Rushdie's days was because Muslims/Arabs were under more authoritarian and mostly Communist-leaning governments.
Another reason to be skeptical about the so called Arab/Muslim Spring or any form of "freedom" for them. They're less of a threat to others when they're under a strong thumb.
Check out what Pat Condell has to say about the latest muslim riots. Just BRILLIANT!
youtube.com/watch?v=GCXHPKhRCVg
Gotta love Pat Condell.
loved it!
People.... can't we all just get along???
Sure we can! All of us stay inside our own borders unless invited.
Great! How about we start with all the US military bases all over the globe?
I want to get along, but they keep saying they want to saw my head off.
I think this article just about says it all. The Islamic Nations don't need any excuse to kill. It's infused into their psyche. Time for the Western World to walk away and let these suckers get on with it. We've got too much to live for. If they want to torch themselves and their societies, let them get along with it. No sense in wasting any more Western lives on their garbage.
Apt description of how the Religous Right in the US operate also.
@ Huxley you mean the religious WRONG don't you?
...Religion is a growing cancer in modern civil society; a most destructive social absurdity. And the building of ever more mosques, synagogues, churches, temples only perpetuates this organized mass delusion.
Hey Glueball. You are really wrong about that. It is actually the opposite. It is the lack of respect for God and the creation that He has made that has brought us to the point we are at. Just because someone does something stupid and violent in the name of God doesn't mean that His laws and ways are bad. Most of the kingdoms of this world that have thived and been prosperous have adherd to the principals and laws set forth in the Holy Bible. Looking at the source of the begining of the writing of this book, Moses, you will see a rich and power figure that has stood the test of time for millinums. It is when he is absent society falls.
Smokey, that justification only works if one elects to believe in your biblical fairy tales. Some of us choose to work with empirical evidence rather than base our beliefs out of some fear that an invisible man in the sky is keeping a scorecard of our good and bad deeds.
The film makers have done nothing wrong at all.
IT only depicts a story of what was written in the q'uran.
Mankind makes films based on books and stories more so now than ever, but in the old days in theaters.
So mindless reaction to a intelligent fact and truth telling film based on a book is lunacy to be blunt.
No mindless reaction is sanctioned by any movies otherwise, it proves a whole group and society has rational, logical thought missing. Again proven to be correct.
Facts and the Truth is something that seems to be elusive in the middle east.
I am all for freedom of the press. I understand its purpose, most of its history and its impact on humanity.
Now having said that, isn't there also some RESPONSIBILITY to be taken for what is written ? The movie in question is alike to a small boy about to whack a hornet's nest with a baseball bat ! Just in general, no one really benefits by such an act, cause it makes the hornets really mad ! Do you agree ?
Even if the criticism of that religion is 100% accurate, what good comes from making people mad ? It seems to me to lack of common sense.
Freedom of speech isn't based on what makes sense to you.
I thought this was about the fox news crowd not the muslims.........
that manufactured outrage thing is fox's stock and trade
so I guess fox is like the mullah of the right????
radical muslims and the radical right look like 2 sides of the same coin sometimes....don't they?
(yeah I know the radical right doesn't blow stuff of as often but mcviegh, hess etc certainly where right wingers)
You're "intellectually challenged".
Let's face it, Assad is a gift to the Western world. Kill more of your people and there would be less of you kids around to chant death to the U.S. Its time we pull out of these terrorist countries and let these ruthless uncivilized barbarians extinct themselves from the civilized world.
I truly wonder about the reasoning of people who compare the free speech of the Tea Partiers (or Occupy for that matter) to the issuance of Fatwas and the killing of dozens of innocent people over an insignificant 14 minute trailer on YouTube.
If we Americans can't see the difference, or allow others to convince us that these are the same, then we don't deserve the democracy and freedom we enjoy.
I agree, so many retards are out there. Also, free speech refers to government suppression of free speech, your employer for example CAN limit your speech.
Pathetic that we allow bounties to be out there against our citizens. No matter what he did, a bounty is not justified, nor is acceptable. It also proves how crazy the group is and how weak their faith is – that they feel a need to kill anyone who disagrees with them instead of using words to protect/voice/back their views.
I'm not saying I agree with their logic, but to them Rushdie is no different that OBL was to the US, probably worse. So if the US can put bounties on Afghans or other nationalities, why do you say this is pathetic?
Yes, I know that Rushdie didn't kill anyone, but to these wingnuts writing a book that could be misconstrued as insulting is worse than killing someone.
I say both are wrong.
I totally agree. It actually seems that they are so afraid of anything being sad about their belief in God they must secretly know that it is false.
Netanyahu is a GIFT to the civilized Western world. Just keep the terrorists in check and help keep the Western world safe!
SEAL TEAM 6 is a GIFT to the Western world!
President Obama is a GIFT to the Western world. Just keep unleashing those drones up their stinking terrorist pie holes!
As a famous man once said "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and "Love thine enemy".
An eye for an eye? Lets make the world blind! Yeah!!!
Of course it's a manufactured distraction. This is an organized effort by North Korea, China, Russia and anti-American elements in the Middle East influenced by Al-Qaeda to take the spotlight off Syria.
Don't people realize that if Syria falls and there are no extremist elements to control the rebels then Iran is in Jeopardy? If the Syrian regime demise brings about the end of Iran, where will Chinese, North Korean and Russian influence and weapons markets wind up? Iran is the key to ending this conflict. Bush invaded the wrong country.
Manufactured? Yeah, it looks it. And we all know what a rocket scientist Rushdie is.
I've met the man. I wish there were many many more like him. Thoughtful, intelligent, and unafraid to apply objective knowledge in order to understand things that scare many people.
Nearly all protests in 3rd world countries are manufactured to some extent. People are always paid to show up at any protest in these places. In countries where there are large amounts of unemployed and the working wage is $2 a day, it's easy to create a mob.
Rushdie is a good man and a member of something almost non-existent in Islam.. a Secular Muslim.. culturally Muslim but Western and Moderate and Modern. As a Christian or a Jew he would not stand out at all but as a Muslim he is a rare educated and moderate voice of reason.
He identifies as an atheist now.
Another great article from CNN. Keep this up and I could change my opinion of your approach that has historically been geared to a third grader. Rushdie has nailed it, of course, and this is what we have to deal with for the next 100 years until the population is educated enough not to be manipulated in this area. We call it civilization. Now, once the US can rid ourselves of the knuckledraggers over here we might have a change to overcome ignorance. It's a long shot.
In this country we're coming up on the manufactured "War on Christmas" season. Happy Holidays!
christ mass is just a perversion of ancient pagan traditions like saturnalia. jesus wasn't born in december.. they moved the celebration to coincide with parties people already were throwing surrounding the winter solstice and the "rebirth" of longer, warmer days.
Smart man except religion has always about power and control not spirituality.
Smart man except religion has always been about power and control not spirituality.
Never an Anti-American Protest in Benghazi Only a Planned Attack (GOOGLE IT)
CBS reports this morning that witnesses are saying "that there was never an anti-American protest outside of the consulate [in Benghazi, Libya]. Instead, they say, it came under planned attack. That is in direct contradiction to the administration's account of the incident."
"What's clear," the CBS reporter concludes, "is that the public won't get a detailed account of what happened until after the election."
the problem is that muslim religion is a religion of death and most of them are willing to die because they belong to death, its what thay, even iran wants this war so they die and by doing so make innocent people suffer. The muslims know that their religion is not about life but death and they are angry with themselves at how could they allow themsaelves to be fooled into such a religion, this is why they are showing how wrong they are to belong to such a religion. Even the hamas leaders son has converted to chriatianity as he said all the muslims teach is destruction not only to others but to themselves, even sending menatlly ill children to war, sich people. However the Arabs are okay, its when they become muslims it does does something to them, because its wrong what their religion is.
the problem is that muslim religion is a religion of death and most of them are willing to die because they belong to death, its what they are, even iran wants this war so they die and by doing so make innocent people suffer. The muslims know that their religion is not about life but death and they are angry with themselves at how could they allow themsaelves to be fooled into such a religion, this is why they are showing how wrong they are to belong to such a religion. Even the hamas leaders son has converted to chriatianity as he said all the muslims teach is destruction not only to others but to themselves, even sending menatlly ill children to war, sich people. However the Arabs are okay, its when they become muslims it does does something to them, because its wrong what their religion is.
Please read about Islam then comment what the Muslims are. By Seeing CNN and BBC and JEWS channels (propaganda) you cant point fingers on other religions. by the way what is your religion.
i think that describes Christians or Jews better!they are the ones that attack and steal wealth from other countries and expect them to keep quiet.they can go and destroy other people's lands but they think it wrong when they are even touched!how uncivilized & uncouth can you get!
Adolph Hitler was one great leader who did great job by killing the root of unrest in current yes you people got me i am talking about "JEWS".
THE HOLOCAUST WAS ONE GREAT THING AND I WISH ONE MORE HOLOCAUST IS MUST FOR REMAINING JEWS ON EARTH. WE NEED ONE MORE HITLER TO KEEP THE WORLD SAFE. LONG LIVE AHMEDI NIJAD LONG LIVE KHAMNAYI
someone on here has just shown that what i said is correct in that their religion is about destruction of what is Good.
Gos came to Save us from religion, all religion.
God Came to Save us from religion, only fools belong to religions
Fu*# Islam and Muslims all over the world, Mohamed was nothing but garbage
and jesus was a manufactured icon (manufactured by the church) designed to increase the commonalities of extremely disparate groups being ruled by the Romans.
all religions are "garbage"
Mo: they day will come in after life when you will have no refuge for saying this................Islam is great and Mohammad is the last prophet
Thank god he was the last prophet, imagine how the world would be if there is another religion like yours... Should have left Iran and Iraq fighting so you folks would have something to fight amongst yourselves and left the world in peace.
Manufactured outrage is all the rage there is most of the time. If we didn't have the extreme left and right wingers in this country stirring the pot on purpose our political discourse in this country might be downright civil. (we also might get something done which is actually good for the country too)
Islam is a pure religion, go read, it is antastic, non voilent,,and peaceful
LOL you really believe this... even after reading the news seeing all the violence around you... this is what we think of you, how blinded you are by your religion, yeah we love your awesomeness and your awesome religion, that should be easy for your to believe...
Only the west provoke,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,They check, how much spark is left in muslims,,,beleive me, its a lot ........e love our prophet and so should u,,,,,,,,,,,as we also love Jesus ...........
you destroying your own country and hurting your own people is what you call spark.... you folks for sure have a lot of it.
KXD: is a cowaard,,,,,,,,,and ignorant, I pray to God for his end,,,,,,,,,,so that he can not spread hatred
What most outsiders see is Muslim extremists in the news. We hear that Muhammad is insulted, by a movie. A very poor cheap movie about hatred, indeed insulting to Muslims, but regardless, the expressions of one sick man. Imagine the power and attention the Muslim response has given to this producer of trash.
For me, it is difficult to respect a religion whose leaders take advantage of something like this to provoke the ignorant of their adherents to murder.
When for example people say insulting thing about Jesus, most Christians are able to see that the words have no meaning, just hatred. Real spiritual leaders fight hate with love.
jewish ******* you offend other peoples' religions without having any knowledge about them and enrage & provoke their followers !haven't you got anything better to do?sick sick sick religion and its followers –the jews !how would they feel if we spoke the same way about their religion(if it may at all be called that)?if we did Muijahideens would emerge from among them to defend their **** religion!i concur with Kamran that we need a HITLER to rid this world of these jewish pests
Spoken by a follower of the cult of islame.
Wow...you were obviously brought up in a household of hate. Actually, I believe you will find there is Christian and Jew bashing on an almost daily basis, but you see little to no outrage. I think many muslims do not believe in the violence they see very single day on the news. I find it quite disturbing in some ways, but actually not a surprise in many others. If there is to be peace in this world, we do need to learn to get along. I do not agree with the actions of some in any religion, but preaching hate wins no friends. Jews are no the problem in this world. It is evil, it is Satan. It is not Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, anyone. The ills of this world are found in the father of lies, Satan. Not only that, Jews have been targets for thousands of years. Christians are as well. Muslims have been as well. Every single religion has been targeted at one time or another, but if you are calling for the annihilation of million of people, then you are not human.
liar
go **** your Jesus
Muslims have been pretty well controlled since their defeat of the muslim empire of Turkey which was the Ottoman. They were a cruel bunch who treated all their other muslims like dirt for the most part and christians and jews basically as walking dead. But in the last 40 years with technology the rise of the radical warriors is tangible in nations like afgan, lebanon, and pakistan. Still they are a small minority but remember 1% radicals overthrew the Shah and the 99% have suffered ever since under Islam. Small percentages in Europe are have major influence on law and culture. In New Zealand all 100% of meat is prepared to not offend the 1% muslim. In the US and around the world most people including muslim and christian only care about family, food, love, work, etc. As Americans have been dumbed down on principles of freedom, bill of rights, natural law, etc we are now subject to being overtaken by secular humanism or nationalism or even islamic influence eventually.
spoken like a true terrorist,bro!its people like you and salman fukdi that draw borders between people and lead to unrest.well that's what your religion must preach!i guess "good christian/jew" is just fiction!
@Diesler you pretty much hate all religion. but everyone must love your fanatic religion... its like the squeaky wheel will get the oil... but in time will get replaced. just keep watching your religion become extinct.
@dike : in your dreams pal!have to say though your religion, if you did have any at all seems already extinct! a good christian/jew is supposed to follow his in peace and not mess with others' religions but you seem to poke your carrot into every sh** !a religion is personal way of life,why mess with it?
Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.
Excellent post
They fly into Buildings,only when intoxicated at the bar, the night before, as told in the american news channels!
Everything made of Steel and Concrete gets annihlated but not, one and only one, mighty passport. What a joke!
Islam is taking over the World, exactly as Muhammad planned
more like Islam is going to be extinct
you are really all ignorant, Our Saviours Name is not jesus, it never was and the muslims say that they also believe in jesus to make their religion seem acceptable when its not because its a lie so they can seem okay with it.
go **** your saviour !you dont even have a religion **** **** !you probably enjoy deep throating your own mom!
trying to defame MUHAMMAD is like spitting at the sky!it will never reach the sky but fall back on your face!
looks like it fell on all your faces... to get outraged like this....
they are angry because they know that they are wrong, its this simple, all the things said on here from muslims are said with hate and this proves that its a religion of hate, they have shown themselves to be what most of us know about them.
and yours is a religion of peace?is that why it teaches you to hate and defame another religion or hurt the feelings of its followers!spoken like a true terrorist,bro!its people like you and salman fukdi that draw borders between people !
so like you dont even know what religion others are.... I guess all non muslims by now have the same feeling about you folks
only muslims spit as they speak
What we are able to do what mulsims cannot is Forgive and this proves that the muslim religion is not of God but the devil.
****head !its because we forgive n forget that youb are alive
if muslims are not allowed to read or see anything that is aginst their religion, then how do they know what the film is about.
SV , you are a real stupid , the innocent Ambassador was killed because of some idiots like you , control your tongue , I am sure you will be punished by your creator very soon
allah will reward him with 72 sturgeons.
Many Say that muslim religion is about destruction and if we look around now can we not see that it is so as they are showing the world they are this.
you have already been punsihed because you are in a religion.
Fox News was right again, called this planned terrorism on nearly day one... all the other liberal media wanted to pin it on the stupid movie because otherwise it would show that Obama's foreign policy wasn't working... and we know we can't have anything look bad for Obama this close to the election...
You are completely correct
The outrage machine is alive and well in the US also. The Christian outrage machine created this movie, it motivates the intense hatred of Obama, the birther "issue", it motivates Nancy Grace, Fox News, the "education" debates, the immigration debates, the evolution and climate change debates.
To look at the outrage machine in Islamic countries is to look at ourselves in the mirror, and not recognize that they are us.
Larry err Abdul, Christians did not make that movie–An Egyptian made that movie.
Lies will not change the facts.
We Forgive all those who hate decency and morality and this seems then that we Forgive the muslims just as The Only God has asked us.
Rushdie hits a grand-slam with his article.
Amassing and keeping power is the supreme goal for some, no matter what the nationality or religion.
prophet , you are talking nonsense , I am sure you are a uneducated .
So, let's briefly analyse this...
"Imam Hojatoleslam Hassan Sanei raised his little-known organization's original bounty on Rushdie by half a million dollars, to $3.3 million...The death sentence issued against Salman (Rushdie) was meant to dry the roots of anti-Islamic plots, and now by carrying out that sentence the sequence of these anti-Islamic plots could be uprooted and these days are the best time to do that,” Mehr quoted the imam as saying."
So, we have another Islamic religious leader, not just some street thug, ordering a hit on a person. The Islamic religious leader has just increased the payment for that hit. And the reason for the hit is that he and many other Muslims do not like what Rushdie had to say about Islam.
So, as long as you go along with Muslims, as long as you cowtow to them and their MANY demands, they make great neighbors. But, if you do not like something about Islam, or it's teachings, or beliefs – watch out – you might become a target.
And all over the world, weenies are giving in to these people. Proof that terror works.
Islam is what it is – a terrorist organization cloaked behind a curtain of warped religious beliefs. It is not a religion of peace and tolerance. And there will never be peace where Islam is the major belief system because Muslims cannot even get along in their own countries.
so why talk about someone's religion in the first place ?surely there are better things to discuss!a personal belief should not be tempered with!Muslims don't do that to jews.how would they feel if their so called religion was made fun of?anyone who unnecessarily tries to offend a religion is actually trying to bring out a fight and they dare to call us fanatics!
Because every thinking being has a right to an opinion. And if any group or individual tries to abrogate that right through violence or censorship, that group needs to be disbanded, that individual stopped, so that civilized human beings can continue to argue, discuss and seek truth through peaceful means.
Also you're a pretty sh!tty troll.
so take away the argument and this case religion, what do you have, the need to find something else to argue about because this is humanity and this is why Our Saviour Came to save us from the need to argue and hate each other.
i have read many comments and not atheists or muslims have ever spoken about Forgiveness
what does this say about them and yet they say endless abusive things about people who Forgive
All of you Repent and Turn to God the God of Compassion for these are the end times.
I respect Rushdie and what he says, but he makes it sound like the outrage isn't real, and if you cut the head off, it will go away. Like Glenn Beck rallies, like Occupy Wall Street, it is very real, but it is being directed. It is the result of 22+ years of the US bombing and killing hundreds of thousands of Muslims in Iraq, of supporting a Zionist government forcibly transferring Muslims out of Israel and Palestine, of CIA involvement in almost every Muslim country, of giving weapons to dictators like Saddam, the Shah of Iran, Mubarak, and in Saudi Arabia. This rage is real, and it may wax and wane in focus, but it is only going to get worse. It is not going away because we take out a few al-Qaeda planners.
Freedom of speech is what helps societies sort out what is true among different competing ideas.Perhaps the Muslims will grow accustomed to hear and seeing critical views of their religion as they become part of the whole world.Blaming the making of a video that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad as a excuse to do this harm is ridiculous by civil standards. This is an example of irrational religious ideology. Many people in the radical Islamic countries reside in something like European Dark Ages and need to be enlightened with access to outside sources of information. Such ignorance can be easily exploited by Al Qaeda extremism. As Thomas Friedman has repeatedly said Islam needs modernity. Growing up in the strict Islamic countries has much community pressure forcing people not question the religious leaders and leads to inhumane actions such as this. Outspoken critics are silenced by threats of violence. Some are then ripe for extremists to incite them to violence and in this case Al Qaeda may be in that role. Ayaan Hirsi Ali writes about this from the point of view of growing up in Somali, escaping an arranged marriage, becoming a member of Danish parliament and then arriving in the U.S. She describes her history of each location in her books "Infidel" and "Nomad". The strict Islamic societies heavily employ the threat of a painful eternity if people don't conform to what the interpreters of the Quran tell them. Even her mother said she hoped she would be punished in hell for escaping from an arranged marriage. The threat of eternal hell after one is dead is the greatest and longest living hoax in history.
Learn to Forgive its the only way.
there is a lot of do gooders on here trying to explain away why muslims are acting the way that they are, i.e to find the cause or the reasons, but the fact remains that the muslim religion is actually a lie and thats the problem and many know that if this religion is destructive, its the same as irans nuclear projects. They want world power, but why, is their religion not enough for them, is really as empty as it seems.
I wonder how quick will russia become best friends with all of the countries that are kicking out us embassies and start supporting them in any way they can. This is about power, and control over this part of the world.
We are praying for all of you and hope that you can find the peace that you really all would like.
FK THOSE WHO SAYS MARY IS VERGIN! HHHMMMMMMMMMM
ditto bro! i concur! she never was!she got laid!
This isn't really even about America. When it boils down to it, this is about the Muslim people and their society. They have one side that wants to roll back the clocks and another side that realizes that even if they can get their financial and social issues 'on course' they will still be a century behind most of the developed world. There is to much economic tension and strife, and it will only get worse, it doesn't matter who is in charge here. But we need a President that realizes that and not one that wants to 'cowboy up' because that solves nothing, it just drags us down.
THis is what happens when a large group of uneducated fundamentalists have never been taught to think for themselves and only listen blindly to their radical Imams tell them. It happens here with idiots like the Westboro Baptists and other extremist religious groups who swallow everything their church tells them without thinking for themselves. I'm getting sick or hearing from these uneducated mindless idiots.
If Ayatollah Khameini issues a FATWA calling for the death of Rushdie, a reciprocal order should be given by the UK for the Ayatollah's demise. Eye for an eye, Islamic justice. A single cruise missile down his stovepipe would be quid pro quo. The FATWA on Rushdie is a crime against humanity as defined by the UN, which Iran is a member of. Don't let our govt's put up with this nonsense.
you know, you may be right on that issue– something no one else has thought of or mentioned. it is indeed a crime against humanity, in violation of international law, to seek to harm or do violence against people for religious views– and this qualifies.....
you know that Iran means Aryan ( the nazi claim of pure superiority) in farsi, right? is this an attempt to have the rise of the 4th kind?
You left out the Armenian genocide of 1.5 million Christian Armenians by the Moslem Turks. You have a selective memory Mohammed.
the spelling on these comments is enough to show what type of people are commenting on here. Offensive and illiterate. This is why the USA in trying to help these countries so that they can be better people and be kind to each other.
Do you think the Tea Party will get rid of social security and medicare if they get control of the house and senate and Mitt Romney wins the election?
Only the dimmest of wits would think that (i.e., Obama worshipers).
We left mess a behind in the Middle East with our irresponsible policies and we continue doing so and embolden those who live off violence chiefly the anti-human regime in Iran. Mr. President Break that Wall and start making good decisions especially in regards to Iran support the people and stop the negotiations with the mullahs. Inactiveness and silence is not the answer, nor is the war. The chief anti-Islam, Ayatollah Khomani started all this violence by taking over our embassy in Iran in 1979 and ever since his regime followed through with same terroristic actions all around the Middle East, Arab peninsula, Africa (Libya, Egypt, and Somalia) and continues to this day.
The CNN expert is not an expert. He is just more liberal hot-air, and is venting so he can protect Obama
Is it just me or can others on this forum smell a mohammedan from across the highway.
Rushdie is exactly right. If you look closely at some of the many video shots, much of what the media is reporting on are small groups of individuals made to look larger by the camera angle. Pull back and there's a crowd watching them, but not actively participating. The "muslim rage" and wave of uprisings is being managed and orchestrated, not only by the political leaders of radical Islam and their media outlets, but by OUR OWN western media. At best, our reporters and their parent companies are willing dupes in this process.
At worst, we too are manufacturing outrage. Just read all the political tripe that's aimed at making things look like they are out orf control, aaaaaaand the President's fault. There's GOP mileage in getting people riled up to believe that. So, "muslim rage" gets used as a talking point. There are advertisement slots to be sold and eyeballs to control, and so the big business of media reporting wants to take these incidents and paint a big, dramatic, scary picture. Then everybody's watching. Heck, if they could they'd find a way to work in a clip of the Challenger shuttle exploding for good, juicy, gut-wrenching measure.
Sadly, controlling the media to make something serve your purpose or to sell (or both) has poisoned the news industry as much as any other industry. Used to be that we could trust what was reported on as "news". Now much of it is infotainment, bloviating, tripe. What used to be "investigative reporting" has been replaced with "instigative reporting" – why bother finding out the facts when you can lie or distort to suit the story, fan the flames, and watch the ratings spike?
So, yes this outrage "wave" is being coordinated. But so is the response on our side. Neither is helping.
This election should be focused mainly on our economy first and foremost, then foreign policy. In your comments, you failed to mention that BOTH parties are in fault. You can't just mention GOP and make no mention about the left party. Democrats are at fault as well.
I want a President and administration that helps this nation get back on her feet, and stop dividing America & her people.
Have you read Chalres Banfield's chapter on "rioting for fun and profit" This is not about politics once it starts neither overseas or here at home
My mistake Edward Banfield The Unheavely City Revisited.
What can you expect from a group of people that follow a false prophet
You are sooooo 100%, totally and absolutely right!
All this political posturing from the posting trolls makes my head feel funny.
Try switching to your left hand.
Maybe it'll all make more sense if I read all this while intoxicated.
all a frenzy urge in the interest of power of the few– in this case those claiming to be religious and holy people. their true interest is only in power and wealth... figure it out people, before all your children are lost to you.
Doesn't say much for CNN that all of these hateful, stupid, ignorant comments are posted. What, for the sake of some online advertising? This is not a forum. It's a place for idiots to spew venom. Very very ugly. CNN would be wise to clean it up or end it entirely.
Who decides what's "hateful, stupid, & ignorant comments"? Isn't this America? Don't we have "freedom of speech"? Are you telling me that if the comments don't agree with your believes then they should be removed?!? Last time I checked we didn't live in Middle East or Russia. Thanks.
Looks like manufactured outrage is a right-wing tactic all over the world.
not about politics? Yeah. Sure. It's tough to bloviate about what's wrong, blame someone prominent for making it wrong or not making it right, and yet offer no solution or suggestions. That would NEVER happen....much.......more............than.................ohhhhhhhhhh
About every few minutes in the carefully scripted ads on TV, or the "CNN contributor" posts from right-wing or left-wing demagogues and liars.
Yeah...nothing to do with politics.
Ha.
Rusdie's book "The Satanic Verses" is a book worth reading slowly to understand exactly what's going with islam as a Satanic cult would be under a false teacher from the beginning. Muslims are so entranced that they can NOT see it.
Jesus even said to beware of false teachings because he saw them coming too; and not just islam. The Book of John 3:16 tells you exactly who He is and why.
Rusdie's book "The Satanic Verses" is a book worth reading slowly to understand exactly what's going with islam as a Satanic cult would be under a false teacher from the beginning. Muslims are so entranced that they can NOT see it.
Jesus even said to beware of false teachings because he saw them coming too; and not just islam. The Book of John 3:16 tells you exactly who Jesus is and why.
Angry extremists and tea party members probably have a lot more in common than they think. – they both believe they are divine beings blessed by god, they're both super pis sed for no good reason, and they both want a world were only their view point is accepted. Obama 2012 or the extremists tea baggers pull Romneys strings and start WW3!
I noticed that in Rushdie's last line, he mentions "inflame your troops', he has a good point. Civilians or combatants? They aren't different anymore, but one in the same. We are using symmetric warfare against asymmetric warfare. It's not like a football game, where the teams wear different colors and we know who's who. What makes the situation in the middle east so unique, is the terrorists have a ready-made army. They don't have to spend money outfitting it. When they need it, they just push the right buttons.
I ate too much Burger King now im Fatwa.
Rushdie is awesome. Read his previous book a while back, The Satanic Verses, and I would encourage everyone else to read it too. It's very insightful.
It's funny that Fareed didn't call his Muslim buddies to tell them Rushdie was coming to his studio. Everyone knows Fareed is an extremist hiding behind media.
Fareed, like Rushdie is an Indian muslim. They are not as fanatic as the rest and most Indian muslima are moderate and educated.
"how many Ambassadors has the Tea Party Killed? How many Fatwa have been issued by Tea Party members, how many suicide bombs? How many beheadings"
The tea party contains many evangelicals... "christians"... want me to give the short list or the long list of all the atrocities perpetrated by christians over the centuries? Starting most recently with the killing of thousands of muslim men and boys in the Bosnian war?
Fareed, like Rushdie is an Indian muslim. They are not as fanatic as the rest and most Indian muslima are moderate.
Reply to the wrong person...
You're quite "intellectually challenged".
I agree that American evangelical Christians don’t have the tightest grip on reality, but I doubt they had anything to with religious genocide in Bosnia. The Tea Party is indeed a pack of hate filled slobbering mad dogs but the war in Bosnia came long before the Tea Party was formed.
Both Christianity and Islam are cults. Anywhere there is a book written by man that people expect to follow to the word is a cult.
I once went to a restaurant that had "Salmon Rushdie" on the menu.
That being said, it's time to turn the Middle East to glass.
Was that free range ocean Salman or farm raised?
More evidence that Islam is an evil, wicked and barbaric religion.
We hate Islam because Islam teaches you to murder innocent people!
Thank you, Salmon Rushdie. You have stated things exactly correct. And as always articulately. You are an amazing writer, and many on this post would do well to listen to your words of wisdom - and read your works!
The Western world has had two things that these people have never had and will never understand: a Renaissance and an Enlightenment. We're not giving them back either. (Unfortunately, we need to review them ourselves...)
Shows the lack of free will these people have when they are so easily fooled and manipulated. KInd of like Obama supporters.
All you people do is complain about other people 24/7.
Muslims are this.Christians are that. Democrats are all this. Republicans are all like that. Whine, whine, whine all day long about other people you hate. Let's read CNN so I can complain about their coverage or talk about all the other media which is horrible of course. And those darn Jews and Mexicans and Blacks and Asians, let's not forget to talk about them too. We don't want to leave anybody out that we can talk bad about.
I'm just another dumb American, but if my region had been colonized, saturated with foreign agents, then bombed repeatedly, I wouldn't have to manufacture outrage. There's plenty to be outraged about. The protests and violence aren't about an offensive movie (or the mediocre writings of Rushdie). They're about throwing off a tyrant. America, it's time to leave the Middle East. Bring your troops home and rebuild your own declining culture.
Finally,a good idea without violence. a slice of raisin pie for you sir.kudos
Paul Lacques you are not just another dumb American as you claim to be. If you were any kind of American you would say our troops and our declining economy not your troops and your declining economy. You sir are a fraud.
Let the muslims have the middle east,end of America's problems.There that wasnt so difficult was it ?
After learning the truth about Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, I have been somewhat skeptical about the teachings of all religions. I believe religion was created to be used as a tool to control gullible weak-minded people like Muslims, Catholics, and fundamentalist Christians.
The same thing is done here. FOX, MSNBC, Rush Limbaugh, Ed Schultz. Take your pick. They are all highly paid people who's only goal in life is to manufacture outrage so they can keep they're very lucrative gigs going.
What is missing in the discussion is what most 12 year olds know-one should not ridicule other people's religion. Try portraying Jewish religion in a bad light and watch the fireworks.People respond emotionaly when someone steps on their beliefs . The desecration of a church in Russia was supported by the media and it is wrong.The objective was to demonize Putin. What if it were done to Obama ? I think it would be evil as it was evil in case of Muslims or Christians in Russia. What is wrong with you people in the media ?
(sigh) Go to YouTube and you will see video after video making fun of all religions. That does not give anyone at anytime the right to riot, burn & kill. It would appear you answer would be to censor YouTube. I hope that never, ever happens (even though that was Obama's knee-jerk reaction).
They aren't outraged over insults to their religion.
They are outraged because their religion, their nations, their culture and they themselves are failures.
Yes! Some people have a hard time recognizing and understanding that type of resentment.
Islamic countries have been trying for years to pass laws making it internationally illegal to 'insult' the prophet.
It's quite clear that many have not even seen the trailer. It's also becoming more clear now who it doing the real incitement, and the purpose for that incitement. I think Rushdie is correct.
Someone who is sufficiently paranoid about the organization of riots might point to big money behind them.
“So to take that and to deliberately use it to inflame your troops, you know, is a political act,” Rushdie added. “That’s not about religion, that’s about power.”
Rushdie is 100% correct. In fact, start asking these protestors specifics about the trailer or film to see if they have actually watched any of it. Of course they haven't. These protests are not about a film or religion. If they were, the outrage would have been long, long ago because this is not the first video to poke fun at Mohammed. YouTube has an impressive library of video slamming or making fun of Mohammed and Islam. In fact, there are even videos making fun of Jesus and other religious figures.
Too much blood shed on all sides for this to get fixed in the next 50 years. Arab Spring allowed freedom but no direction.
Arab Muslims only know how to protect their religion with violence and not by intellectualism. One way street for Islam.
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace
- John Lennon circa 1971
All of the manufactured outrage is the best publicity the film could hope for. Had the protests not occurred I feel sure the majority of Americans would never have heard of the film. The same goes for other nations as well. Why do they wish to draw attention to something so very obviously ignorant?
Lynda, you ignorant woman………Try actually reading the article before making such a stupid statement. Terrorists are using the video as an excuse or cover to attack Americans and American interests abroad.
Salman Rushdie was indeed correct in his assessment that the rage in the middle-east was manufactured. To blame America for a poorly crafted video by some heretofore unknown religious radical is a stretch even for ignorant Muslims.
I have great respect for Salman Rushdie. A very brave and intelligent man who does not intimidate easily.
What's the problem with people from those countries? Is it related to much sun over their head?
Animals!
Rushdie added. “That’s not about religion, that’s about power.” touche! There has never been anything more to religion than a lust for power. Jesus is a fabrication of the 1st and 2nd centuries to grab power by convincing ignorant masses that their religion was the right one because of their claim of a "real" flesh god. Of course not one single contemporary historian, roman record, contemporary work of art, contemporary writer, exists to substantiate the jesus myth.
Very good article, we need more good ones like this.
Send them another billion while they spit in our face and kill our soldiers. What in the world America !?
He is exactly right. Dead on. Its proof, which 80% of us true Americans already know. That ISLAM is a violent political ideology with a TWIST of religion which it uses the religion as power to push itself onto FREE NATIONS unabated hiding under the protection of "Freedom of Religion"
Radical Muslims are a troll's dream demographic. Oh, the fun I'll have in the coming years tormenting them! The best part is that they deserve it. They must learn to accept that their infantile fits will not silence those with whom they disagree.
The problem with men in the Middle East, especially Muslim men, is that they are just too darned up-tight. American males have alcohol and strip bars to relieve their day to day frustrations
Any thinking person has always known what islam is – it is organized political units whose aim is to subdue the world and kill everyone who stand sin their way. why is this so hard to understand or believe in the face of decades of their terrorist murderous tactics that rage stronger today than they ever did. What would we say if the Pope decided to kill someone , or the Presbyterians or the Baptists? Not just some lone wacko out to kill abortion doctors No . But the head of the church – to kill as policy. What so many do not realize is that islam has no head – all the imams are little popes in their own right with the power of life and death. We better watch out – these lunatics are hell bent on domination at all costs.
"...organized political units whose aim is to subdue the world and kill everyone who stand sin their way." You just described American Christianity.
sand N166GERS, killl em all
The CNN comment section is a product of the outrage machine.
Huh? Really?
Middle Eastern Muslim men have only their twisted fanatical religion to cling to. It’s no wonder they start fires and raise hell in the streets.
Interesting that Republicans and Islamic fundamentalists are so similar: Their leaders tell them what to think and how to act regardless of the facts, and they behave like robots.
Written like a true Obama zombie.
Liberals don't vote against their own best interests. That's the one thing that so amazes me about the overwhelming majority of Republicans; that guns, gays and God can so blind them they're willing to sacrifice everything to the rich in exchange for lip service on these three things.
Poor Sammy, so envious of those of a higher socioeconomic status. Poor, poor little Sammy .... If you're a good boy, I'll let you cut my lawn.
Actually there were 2 fatwa's issue by Khomeni, one on Salman Rushdie and the other on Dr. Rashad Khalifa who discovered the Quran's divine mathematical code based on 19. Dr. Khalifa was assassinated in Tucson Jan 31, 1990 for his translation of the Quran – and for quoting verses that those who claimed adherence to that scripture were its worst enemies and would be disowned by Muhammad.
Quran 25:30 "the messenger will say (on the day of judgment 'My Lord, my own people make this Quran of no account'
Good article. Muslims remind me of the white Christians bombing the abortion clinics.
When you've seen one God-ster you've seen em' all.
Muslims remind me of little brown screeching monkeys. Military.com has really good dead Muslim monkey videos. Sometimes I'll pop a brewski, watch some dead Muslim monkey videos and have some laughs.
We all have our means of enjoyment.
I prefer a shot of tequila and watching reruns of grown men crying over the death of Dale Ernhart.
Dale who?
Everybody is talking about the radical Muslim religion but nobody mentions the Mormons. There is an elephant in the room that few can see.
"Non sequitur," JR–look it up.
Of course there is no manufactured outrage in the US. Nope, doesn't exist.
So pathetic and sad to see all these "adult" muslims acting like ill mannered CHILDREN.....Not to mention that they can't even seem to think for themselves. They have to follow their warped leaders' fatwahs and directives. I can't fathom being that controlled and that devoid of conscience, independent thought, education, insight, maturity, self respect and ability to use the brain God gave them. What an insult to God, to waste what was given to them as a gift at birth.
Have any of our intel people figured out that as long as the Saudi Wahabi Muslims can pay these other Muslim Brotherhood groups to stay angry with the trifles of criticism that they themselves fight over, the Saudis stay on their throne? Quite the strategy of deflection, after all Bin Laden was trying to overthrow the Wahabis, right?
Behead all those who insult The Prophet.. The west trembles at Islamic justice.
Muhammad can drop to his knees and "behead" me! He was, after all, most gay.
You are actually right and it was also seen in the movie. His lover was Omar.
There are some hadiths describing the relationship between Mohammed and Omar, but muslims are a little bit embarrassed about it and avoid to talk about it. This is what makes the movie so embarrassing to them.
Wait a minute, you just don't have one prophet you idiot. Shouldn't you be rioting when any of your prophets are insulted. Jeepers that should keep you busy all week
So fun to watch american soldiers cowardly run from the Islamic warriors who defeated them in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those colors do run,
So fun to watch Muslim sand monkeys blown to bits on Military.com. You should check it out, Tariq. Do it now, before your master discovers you playing with his computer.
Much better to watch american invaders go home in bags.
Bow to Israel, your master Tariq. They are the promised people of God. Your people are just the product of Abraham relieving himself with his slave girl...
OK, I propose a counter hit on "Imam Hojatoleslam Hassan Sanei", say $3.8 million? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Just saying?
It appears more like a religion that cannot accept criticism, to me.
We should offend them everyday and in everyway until they realize how idiotic their violent response are.
Yes, I've made something of a trolling cottage industry of it. It's a great way to blow off steam, or just kill some time.
ABSOLUTELY! Take a daily peepee on a kor@n and create cartoons of their child m0lestter prophet...
To bad our wimpy leader has gone on the apology tour which just encouraged these animals. Where is the outrage from our fearless(?) leader over the deaths of AMERICANS and destruction of our property. The leaders of these Muslim idiots are the ones stirring the pot. Time to declare a fatwa on them!
Well, at least they are killing each other now. Eventually when enough property has been destroyed the Mulsim leaders will realize the wisdom(?) of their choices.
How many people here are using their computer at work to post the most ridiculous partisan lies all day while they should be working?
And ultimately it means nothing to anyone.
It means something to you, Norman.
Respect, another way of saying you better live like I do or else. . . . .
One time while vacationing in the Middle East I saw a muslim by the side of the road with his arm all the way up a camel's butt. "Car trouble?" I asked. Badda-bing !! Badda-boom !!
classic!
Rushdie suffered the physical threat from a radical Islamic cleric for what he wrote. This is the type of action that allow myths to be presented as fact rather than subject to analysis.
Freedom of speech is what helps societies sort out what is true among different competing ideas.Perhaps the Muslims will grow accustomed to hear and seeing critical views of their religion as they become part of the whole world.Blaming the making of a video that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad as a excuse to do this harm is ridiculous by civil standards. This is an example of irrational religious ideology. Many people in the radical Islamic countries reside in something like European Dark Ages and need to be enlightened with access to outside sources of information. Such ignorance can be easily exploited by Al Qaeda extremism. As Thomas Friedman has repeatedly said Islam needs modernity. Growing up in the strict Islamic countries has much community pressure forcing people not question the religious leaders and leads to inhumane actions such as this. Outspoken critics are silenced by threats of violence. Some are then ripe for extremists to incite them to violence and in this case Al Qaeda may be in that role. Ayaan Hirsi Ali writes about this from the point of view of growing up in Somali, escaping an arranged marriage, becoming a member of Danish parliament and then arriving in the U.S. She describes her history of each location in her books "Infidel" and "Nomad". The strict Islamic societies heavily employ the threat of a painful eternity if people don't conform to what the interpreters of the Quran tell them. Even her mother said she hoped she would be punished in hell for escaping from an arranged marriage. The threat of eternal hell after one is dead is the greatest and longest living hoax in history.
Every thinking being has a right to an opinion. And if any group or individual tries to abrogate that right through violence or censorship, that group needs to be disbanded, that individual stopped, so that civilized human beings can continue to argue, discuss and seek truth through peaceful means.
Discuss without resorting to idiocy. Let's see if you can do it.
A religion that can't take criticism or decent is little more than a cult. Stupid fatwa from Sanei.
There once was a trollop called MARY, who slept with soooo many men she forgot who was what. Then one day lord be hold she got pregnant. On not knowing what to do, she invented the biggest damn lie you can imagine, claiming it was god lol, who slept with her.
There once was a cheap trollop called MARY who had a son called Jerry... now true to his mother, he also slept with sooo many men... but did not have the same worry.
NOW FOLKS, HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT AS FREEDOM OF SPEECH?
Of course you are a buffon if you think the real aim is not to provoke and anger you.
Unfortunately unlike you, we have evolved form killing people because they disagree with our believes. as you can see no one has responded to your post except me .
take a hint , we believe that God should be able to defend himself
Stupid film? Yes, it is. People who blindly follow what some lunatic mullah tells them? I'd call them stupid as well.
(Ecclesiastes 7:8, 9) . . . Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones.
So why all this talk about being offended and insulted?
Manipulation of the masses by religious fanatics reveals how dangerous a muslim society can be.
A man I the crowd exclaimed,"how would you feel if the film depicted Jesus or Lincoln in the same way". This is the stark difference between westerners or wester educated people and the average middle eastern people, we westeners , of all educated levelS,may not like it but we certainly would not go out in a ravaneous attack killing people and sacking towns and cities.
Manipulation of the masses by religious fanatics reveals how dangerous a muslim society can be.
A man I the crowd exclaimed,"how would you feel if the film depicted Jesus or Lincoln in the same way". This is the stark difference between westerners or wester educated people and the average middle eastern people, we westeners , of all educated levelS,may not like it but we certainly would not go out in a ravaneous attack killing people and sacking towns and cities.
These protesters are PAID . This is the height of hypocracy . They could give a darn about mohammed just as long as somebody pays them ! There is no truth in islam ! The Old Testament compliments the New Testament and vise versa .
GOD doesn´t change HIS mind Why would HE need islam ? It trueley is a FALSE RELIGION .
You people are just f****** retarded. You do not have families, even you guys don't have fathers, everybody is a born ba*****. By the way b****** is a person who does not have a person married to his/her mother. We care about our prophet and Islam is a true religion. You don't even have a proper book to follow let alone to follow a complete religion. You are worst people on earth killing innocent women and children starting from Vietnam, Iraq and Now losing in Afghanistan. go f*** you mother and sister and leave us alone.
the truth always have a way of proving itself, if islam is true then you dont need to defend it
Inviting Rushdie to talk about muslims is akin to inviting Hitler to talk about the jews !
The greatest leader of 21st century Hitler gave us an idea of how to deal with blasphemous, chaotic and insane humans. He gassed them, only to leaving for future genration that why killed them. The Muslim World should make a movie of this great Christian Hero who only wanted to baptize West from Evil of Jews. Hail Hitler!!! A true representative of humanity.
Rushdie suffered the physical threat from a radical Islamic cleric for what he wrote. This is the type of action that allow myths to be presented as fact rather than subject to analysis.
Freedom of speech is what helps societies sort out what is true among different competing ideas.Perhaps the Muslims will grow accustomed to hear and seeing critical views of their religion as they become part of the whole world.Blaming the making of a video that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad as a excuse to do this harm is ridiculous by civil standards. This is an example of irrational religious ideology. Many people in the radical Islamic countries reside in something like European Dark Ages and need to be enlightened with access to outside sources of information. Such ignorance can be easily exploited by Al Qaeda extremism. As Thomas Friedman has repeatedly said Islam needs modernity. Growing up in the strict Islamic countries has much community pressure forcing people not question the religious leaders and leads to inhumane actions such as this. Outspoken critics are silenced by threats of violence. Some are then ripe for extremists to incite them to violence and in this case Al Qaeda may be in that role. Ayaan Hirsi Ali writes about this from the point of view of growing up in Somali, escaping an arranged marriage, becoming a member of Danish parliament and then arriving in the U.S. She describes her history of each location in her books "Infidel" and "Nomad". The strict Islamic societies heavily employ the threat of a painful eternity if people don't conform to what the interpreters of the Quran tell them. Even her mother said she hoped she would be punished in hell for escaping from an arranged marriage and a husband she didn't know. The threat of eternal hell after one is dead is the greatest and longest living hoax in history.
Why Can't We All Just Get Along?
....c'mon admit it please...salman rushdie...himself looks satanic...isnt he....
lol..... if you dare look...into his eyes....
funny thing...i thought ...that you .anglosaxophones....cared much about facial aspects.....good impressions ...
hahaha ..i've been to all 4 continents...i've seen different colours..been to clubs ..strip clubs....dated hot chicks...
seen war ..and airplane missiles dropping in front of me....
you know what... ... its not worth it.....
and yes.... it is islam that is right.... living for something at least..
you westerners on the other hand ..live for ....i dunno what lol ... thats it.......you fart since birth and die....
you legs crisp ..and still dunn understand what happened...and you want to impose your stupid logics ???
at least make your farting good music please..keep it to yourself ...salam rushdi cnn stories sht**
So are you still getting drunk and dating chickens?
do learn to write English properly you cretin
An openion of a hindu, criminal, nothing more, spewing his hinduism, barking from a safe house, rest assured, Rushdi, hindu filthy dog of hindu Jew's, criminal self centered protected by hindu gentile, terrorist slave's Christians of hindu criminal Jew's will not see a day of freedom, sooner his hindu, criminal masters are taken care of, he will meet his fate. visit limitisthetruth.com/blog.html to learn more reason for hindu, criminal Rushdi's hinduism, barking.
All I raed there was a load of nonsense filled with some sort of strange vitriolic of some sort .
The Nazis used the same propaganda (Joseph Goebbels being the main protagonist ) against the Jews and we all know what happened then , I'd be very nervous being a minority group in Muslim countries now.
Nazi's were hindu, racist believer's of hinduism, racism, and a hindu denier of truth absolute deserves nothing less than his hinduism, criminality, every hindu criminal will be made to pay for his hinduism, illegality, have no doubt about it hindu's, deniers of truth absolute.
Word hindu is based on Latin word hindrance, negative, Hun, great, Han, to be in greatness, hin, negative to both of them, hindu, a noun in negativity hinduism, way of negativity, for more visit limitisthetruth.com/blog.html and click on word choice on website to open file.
problem with many arab pals...they try to convince stupids chritianos crusader that islam is good ...
hey...can't you notice that you are trying to be foolish...
we speak all language without prejudice..nor hate..unlike the french or anglos..
anyway ...wanna know their medicine ? anglo saxone medicine that works ?
step#1_ pulll out from free trade agreement accross the arab muslim world
step#2_ bar coca cola from operating across the muslim land...also mcdonals/kfc/burger kings/microsoft products
step#3_ replace nestle with chinese dairy products–even if their media try to sabotage chinese dairy products
step#4 _ take control of all inter arab money transfer ... lock western union services out also take over western banks
step#5_ give big contracts to chinese / russian companies in exchange or naval escorts battleships
step#6_ create a unified arab passport
step#7_ create a unified joint arab tast force army of military engineers
if arab states would follow these steps ... beleive me ..more english dogs... would sign they hate arabs .. but wouldnt that be wonderful ..
all this talk talk about religion is actually getting us nowhere and creating borders between friends.why make a big issue about whether a person is a muslim and then insult him!we don't go round asking whether someone is a christian/jew and then burn his ass!a person should be judged by his deeds and not by his clothes/underwear/belief-these are personal!if two persons have a good relationship ,should that change because of religious differences–anyone putting religion above personal relationship is actually a racist!
Here is a small example of why islame is a threat to all humanity:
Qur'an:2:216 "Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not." [Another translation reads:] "Warfare is ordained for you."
Qur'an:4:95 "Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no injurious hurt, and those who strive hard, fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause with their wealth and lives. Allah has granted a rank higher to those who strive hard, fighting Jihad with their wealth and bodies to those who sit (at home). Unto each has Allah promised good, but He prefers Jihadists who strive hard and fight above those who sit home. He has distinguished his fighters with a huge reward."
Bukhari:V4B52N44 "A man came to Allah's Apostle and said, 'Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad in reward.' He replied, 'I do not find such a deed.'"
Bukhari:V1B2N25 "Allah's Apostle was asked, 'What is the best deed?' He replied, 'To believe in Allah and His Apostle Muhammad.' The questioner then asked, 'What is the next best in goodness?' He replied, 'To participate in Jihad, religious fighting in Allah's Cause.'"
The major reason why we even listen to these " Arab / muslim " " rage" is just plainly because we are all afraid of them. Afraid that they won't give us oil. And afraig that they are willing to die for their foolishness as much as we want to stay alife
Long term solution against Islamic violence & irrationality is a MASSIVE CONVERSION OF MUSLIMS TO CHRISTIANITY, preferably to any Middle Eastern Christian Church which share the same language, culture and traditions as Muslims but NOT their SATANIC Islamic faith.
news flash!your religion bro seems more SATANIC by far–as it allows you to practice violence--insult others to provoke rage for no reason,pick a fight--i mean you are okay with christian maniacs killing kids in your schools/malls and you don't blame the whole religion–but when a muslim miscreant kills one you try to defame all !you even think it right to go and kill innocent men.women & children thousands of miles away,destroy their homes rob their oil & wealth and THAT'S NOT TERRORISM ! WE DON'T CALL YOU "CHRISTIAN TERRORIST/EXTREMISTS"!
Diesler
Nobody said anything in your retort.
What planet are you on?
@ GENE:that's because what i said was the truth and no one can contradict the facts!BTW didn't take long for you to respond though!
So you are having a conversation with yourself?
or, Are you pontificating?
Manufactured? These should be called "rent -a -crowds."
I really like your idea of "rent-a-crowd".
The Islamists can gain some pointers from the Mormons, as they do not tolerate any criticism from within their church. What surprises me more about the LDS is that they don't cut off hands, or shoot their daughters.
They need some catching up, as both religions do.
9/22/2012. "ALL" I want is for CNN to provide us with DAILY, IN-DEPTH DISCUSSIONS regarding OUR COUNTRIES POLITICAL AND SOCIAL CONFUSION!!!! Jesse Ventura, although he may be "radical", is a man with A BOLD VOICE!!! On "Piers Morgan" tonight, Ventura brought up points about OUR government that MUST BE ADDRESSED ENTIRELY!!! The idea of our government having the ability TO LIE IS NOT FAIR TO ANYONE!!! TRUE OR NOT, THE TRUTH MUST BE ESTABLISHED!!! I see many Americans with brilliant minds debating subjects that MUST BE RESOLVED!!! CNN MUST PROVIDE THESE CONCLUSIONS TO US AS THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!!! Agree of Disagree??? WE NEED TO DECIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe....you are absolutely right. But Politicians will never be trusted. Not a lot of our folks ( American Politicians will go bold like Jesse). It might implicate their own political careers . It's the average citizen who are left to puzzle and find answers for themselves.
For example .. people criticize islam but dont understand that all religion basically teach same modesty , even hindu religion teaches women to cover their heads .. its been our world culture for hundreds of years that women covered their heads ... Bible clearly says that women who dont cover their heads , their hair should be shaved off , so you know , islam infact is more lighter among the older religions , like thier waqs no limit to a women a man can marry , but islam put a limit 1400 years ago when poeple had many many wives , The only religious book to have these words " Marry Only One " is Muslim Quran .
How can covering a woman's head be considered "modesty"?
If an islamist saw my elderly mother's ankle, would that turn him on?
Strange ideas you present.
and "Modesty" is?have your mom and sis dangling their coconuts at drooling men who can have their fun at will and still not sin!yeah that's your religion alright!something you must be proud of!
For someone who does not like to be insulted, you readily insult others.
Muslims are single minded, noone matters except them.
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Rushdie suffered the physical threat from a radical Islamic cleric for what he wrote. This is the type of action that allow myths to be presented as fact rather than subject to analysis. The reaction of the some in Islamic societies is orchestrated by the leaders as Rushdie said. They wish to hold the people back from modern life.
Freedom of speech is what helps societies sort out what is true among different competing ideas.Perhaps the Muslims will grow accustomed to hear and seeing critical views of their religion as they become part of the whole world.Blaming the making of a video that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad as a excuse to do this harm is ridiculous by civil standards. This is an example of irrational religious ideology. Many people in the radical Islamic countries reside in something like European Dark Ages and need to be enlightened with access to outside sources of information. Such ignorance can be easily exploited by Al Qaeda extremism. As Thomas Friedman has repeatedly said Islam needs modernity. Growing up in the strict Islamic countries has much community pressure forcing people not question the religious leaders and leads to inhumane actions such as this. Outspoken critics are silenced by threats of violence. Some are then ripe for extremists to incite them to violence and in this case Al Qaeda may be in that role. Ayaan Hirsi Ali writes about this from the point of view of growing up in Somali, escaping an arranged marriage, becoming a member of Danish parliament and then arriving in the U.S. She describes her history of each location in her books "Infidel" and "Nomad". The strict Islamic societies heavily employ the threat of a painful eternity if people don't conform to what the interpreters of the Quran tell them. Even her mother said she hoped she would be punished in hell for escaping from an arranged marriage and a husband she didn't know. The threat of eternal hell after one is dead is the greatest and longest living hoax in history.
is that why the jews & Christians inflict their Judao beliefs on the western world...("Thou shalt have no other God but Me")
I live 5,000 miles away from where Jesus & his rabble of tramps/hippie scrounger apostles were born
What has YOUR dusty desert pig-sty sewer land got to teach me? in fact to lecture me and my neighbours since we were 5 years old...that WE should follow your Rules & Gods
Who the hell do you jews think YOU are?
You cannot clean the filth, abuse, torture in your country – let alone prance around the world as master of it !!!!
muslims on tolerance:
Qur'an 9:71 "O Prophet, strive hard [fighting] against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be harsh with them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed."
Qur'an 8:59 "The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them."
Qur'an 4:168 "Those who reject [Islamic] Faith, Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to any path except the way to Hell, to dwell therein forever. And this to Allah is easy."
Qur'an 4:114 "He who disobeys the Apostle after guidance has been revealed will burn in Hell."
Ishaq:344 "We smote them and they scattered. The impious met death. They became fuel for Hell. All who aren't Muslims must go there. It will consume them while the Stoker [Allah] increases the heat. They had called Allah's Apostle a liar. They claimed, 'You are nothing but a sorcerer.' So Allah destroyed them."
Qur'an 33:60 "Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy – a fierce slaughter – murdered, a horrible murdering."
HINDU KALI – GODDESS OF VIOLENCE/TERRORISM
A recent report by United Press trust of India (UPI) stated that during the past three years more than 2,500 young boys and girls were sacrificed to goddess Kali in India. Another of AFP's recent reports say: hundreds of young boys and virgin girls are sacrificed every month for the deity Kali. In one case Rama Sewak hacked his eight year old son to death in broad daylight in Delhi because goddess Kali had told him he would come back to life and bring him good fortune. Bloodthirsty Kali is worshipped openly the length and breadth of India. Kali's statue stands naked astride the inanimate body of the Hindu deity Shiva, tongue stuck out with blood dripping from fang-like teeth. She holds a noose, a skull-topped staff, a blood-encrusted sword and a severed head. She is also known as Durga, Devi, Shaktima, Uma and Parvathi in other manifestations. The priest of Delhi, Kali Bari, says that a child sacrificed to Kali ensures a man the birth of a son. Human sacrifices are also made to these gods or goddesses, either to appease them or to ask favours of them.
Hinduism is a disgusting cult. Even to this day cross-cousin, father-daughter, mother-son, brother-sister, doing each other is common practice. Let me make it easy for you and refer you to the hindu scriptures and share it with the world. Shame on Hindus and barbaric Hinduism.
Pushan is the lover of his sister [ Rg Ved VI.55.4 ][ Apte 11 ]
The Ashvisns married Surya and Savitri who is their sister [ RV I.116.19 ].
Agni is the son of his father and his sister [ Rg Ved.I.91.7 ]
We continue to monitor the economic, political and cultural bubble burst/malaise in India and are very concerned with the continued state of deterioration. At this point, we restate our view that India is in a precarious situation and that a geo-political implosion is imminent (if not already in process) and the need of the hour. As you will recall, India has an unmanageable large population mired in poverty and we are spinning our wheels trying to prop it up. Additionally, it is also too big of a geographical unit to govern. Americans now need to focus on its own people and cannot afford to handout more financial and technological aid to India.
We believe that this defragmentation of India will unleash boundless opportunities and uber economic demand that will be beneficial to US and Europe and help pull them out of current recessionary trends. We pray for the events to unfold peacefully and in a harmonious manner for the people of India and its neighbors.
Tragically, in India people are dying of hunger. Why are low caste poor Hindus prohibited from eating beef? People stop their cars, and sit for hours waiting for a cow to clear the roadway, thinking it to be sacred. In India cow meat is cheaper than other available meats. Instead of these Brahmins taking care of the low caste peoples of India, they are doing their best to save their "holy" cows instead. This is evil. According to Valmith's Ramayana, God Rama "ATE" meat. So then "why" have these Brahmins given up beef-eating? It's hypocrisy within their own religion.
Rushdie was one of the input sources for the project of manufacturing a product of outrage machine. When he found that there are now many sources which are deterrant to his business, he started finding fault in other sources. A day is not far off when he would admit that he was wrong most of the time, and that there should not be a Total Freedom.
Freedom of expression and freedom of inquiry are the best tools for sorting out what is true from what is false.
Until the western societies can get to know that Islam and the Muslim word is a society that ignorance dominants people perception, Arabs and Muslims are the worst man kind on earth. Unless Americans start to deal with these folks the way they have to be dealt with ....we shall continue to have in security in our societies, civilization and beliefs. if one depicts Prophet Mohammed it's an insult. Why, and if one is civilized enough why do you have to be insulted and go wild like an animal to kill innocent people about the depiction of Mohammed.
The outrage machine is a carefully planned operation by the Mullahs every Friday. Islam is being distorted by these 'wise" men and uneducated, gullible Muslim youth no better than to pounce on anything non-Islam!
We remain extremely appalled and highly concerned about the continued medieval cultural and barbaric social practices prevalent in the name of Hinduism in India. Much to our chagrin, the human rights organizations are either turning a blind eye towards these injustices or are being paid off to look the other way. We are particularly aware of the victims of such practices, namely, young children and women especially those women who are pregnant and are bearing a female embryo.
They are being mistreated or simply sacrificed in the name of their deities. To the civilized world such atrocious behavior is repulsive and is condemned in the strongest words. We urge the Indian Hindus to immediately cease and desist from such unacceptable norms. To them we say the world is watching and will see to it that justice prevails.
Have you seen the anti-US cartoons from Egypt? Just waiting for Americans to burn some embassies... oh wait, that won't happen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19721654
This attempted provocation might just shine a light on the differences between the West and the Muslim word.