By Fareed Zakaria
The conventional wisdom following last week’s presidential debate was that President Obama performed badly. I think that’s a fair reflection of what happened. It is still inexplicable to me why the president was so passive, why he did not bring up issues such as Romney’s 47 percent comment or the auto bailout or explain the popular provisions in the Obama health care bill. But for whatever reason, perform badly he did.
But the lessons for Joe Biden – as he thinks about his upcoming debate with Paul Ryan – derive less from watching Obama than from watching Romney. Romney had one of the best performances I can remember watching in a presidential debate ever – it was punchy, intelligent, empathetic. There is no question there were substantive problems, most notably the fact that Romney’s tax plan simply doesn’t add up – he cannot do a 20 percent tax rate cut while also retaining all the big deductions for most people without massively adding to the deficit. He certainly can’t do it while also promising to maintain Medicare and Social Security as is for current retirees. But Romney was good enough that he was able to convincingly argue that 2 plus 2 equals 5.
Ryan is like Romney in one sense, and this is a very different Republican team to the kind Democrats are used to facing. For the last several decades, the Democrats have been up against Republican politicians who had a certain resonance with the country, but were not really policy wonks. Instead, it was often the Democrats who were smart at policy – it was Democrats who understood the fine details. They would find themselves up against Republicans whose strengths were different – a rhetorical gift or a likeability factor. Think about Ronald Reagan, for example. Or take George W. Bush. Even George H. W. Bush and John McCain seemed inarticulate or uncomfortable when dealing with specific policy issues.
Obama on debate: I had a bad night
This time, you have a Republican ticket that is steeped in public policy – and knows how to articulate ideas. Romney’s entire training in the private sector primes him for these kinds of debates. After all, what do management consultants do? They provide crisp, compelling presentations on what a problem is and what their solution would be.
Paul Ryan, meanwhile, is comfortable with detailed policy discussions and is used to defending his ideas in Congress and in the media and coping with back and forth questioning on these issues.
Obama and Biden on the other hand have been in their respective presidential and vice presidential bubbles for the last four years and have simply not had to defend their positions in the same way – they are more used to staff meetings (over which they preside), campaign rallies (where they meet adoring crowds) or fundraisers (where they meet adoring donors).
If Vice President Biden wants to improve on the president’s performance last week and reenergize a dispirited Democrat base, he will need to recognize that the Republican ticket he is facing is quite different – and in this sense better – than virtually any before.
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All Biden needs to do is point out Ryan's hypocrisy and not allow him to run away from policy questions like he has been doing since announced as Romney's running mate. Beyond that, Biden need only point out the differences between the selfish greedy agressively small-minded world Ryan Romney would have us live in and the City on the Hill that has nothing to do with the reality of their visions.
Biden's biggest problem will be himself... Ryan, is the least of his worries! Should be fun to watch:)
Joe Biden may make an occasional harmless gaffe, but he is an experienced debater. Many people say he won the primary debates during the 2008 presidential campaign. He's quite good with detail and has more than 35 years experience in government. All Biden has to do is expose Ryan's actual policy and budget ideas. Ryan is a radical right-wing ideologue who feels it is his mission to bring the federal government down. That is reflected in the pages of his notorious "Path to Prosperity" budget plan. He presents a target-rich environment for Joe.
Paul Ryan is a seven-term congressman who is described by his colleagues as a bright and talented lawmaker with all the experience and know-how to balance the budget, reduce the national debt, promote fiscal leadership, strenghten and grow our economy and create American jobs. However, under Paul Ryan's leadership in which the GOP controlled both the House and Senate and the Executive Branches, they squandered a surplus and the end result was high inflation, a housing crisis, record unemployment, a broken financial structure and the worst economic crisis in America since the Great Depression. Hey, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney are not the solution. They're the PROBLEM! Please go away.
I am leaning towards Romney. I did not see a clear winner in last weeks debate. Romney has victory in sight, GOP sees this. However, this is the part where the tea party has its referendum as Romney and Ryan are demanding. They are goingto loose because of this. Shame we need to wait another 4 years to get the economy going again. Oh we'll...
Ali used the rope a dope to win fights and then went brain dead. Biden went brain dead and then tried to use the rope a dope.
Bidenm didn't disappoint. He was aggressive, frequently interrupting his rival as he defended Obama, who has acknowledged he was "too polite". He let Biden on Thursday night to attack Romney on taxes, government spending, the economy and other issues.
Biden has to defend Obama's record on the economy, the deficit, and unemployment. He also has to explain the $750 Billion the Dems will take out of Medicare to support Obamacare. Maybe the guy in the empty chair can't explain it but I can't wait to hear Joe's response if he can remeber his lines.
My generation CANNOT keep dumping money into Medicare fraud and abuse if you want to call that a cut then go ahead,but when you or maybe one of your kids if it last that long are standing there with a "voucher " trying to weed your way through the healthcare maze don't say we didn't tell you.
Explaining the $716B that Obama allegedly steals from Medicare will be quite easy for Joe.
That savings comes from eliminating waste, fraud, and redundant services where patients are given identical tests by different providers within the same claim. The biggest savings comes from eliminating excessive payments to private insurance companies who have been getting paid billions to "administer" the Medicare Advantage program. This is similar to what Obama did with student loans, which had been "administered" by banks, acting as high-paid middlemen who marked up the loan costs. Eliminating unnecessary middlemen in any system can create significant savings.
Obama does this without cutting a signal Medicare benefit. He will take that $716B in SAVINGS and use to help seniors pay for their medication and to pay for wellness visits, which will greatly reduce long-term health care costs.
Of course, Ryan's plan also cuts $716B from Medicare. BUT, he takes that money and uses it to pay for his so-called "premium support" program, which is really a voucher system. What this means is that the people who receive these vouchers will simply hand that money over to private insurance companies, who will then provide coverages which would be significantly less than what Medicare members receive today.
This is not that complicated and Joe will have no trouble explaining, probably using fewer words than I used here. Of course, some people don't really want to learn the details because the details don't make Ryan and Romney look so good, especially to seniors and low to middle income families. Ryan's plan would also cut Medicaid by 30%, which is the only way many elderly people can afford to stay in nursing homes.
I'm sure none of this makes any difference to you, Gavin. Most people who support Romney and Ryan just get annoyed when you start providing some facts.
LOL !!!! So the solution to cut waste and fraud is MORE GOV'T agencies and control? One what sick twisted planet does that actually make sense?????
Hi Gavin, explaining Obama admin's track record will be very easy. All it has to point out to the almost depression George W left us in including the fiscal mess. In fact, I would like to see him ask the question – are we better off today than 4 years ago and the overwhelming response, even from those unemployed will be yes. This will also make it easy for him to point out that the policies romney/ryan are advocating got us in the mess in the first place and the republican math just does not work and has never worked. That math has gotten us into huge debt to begin with. Why do we want to increase that debt even further?
Not exactly true. Check it out (and stop listening to AM radio)
[web]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/03/mitt-romney/romney-says-obama-cut-716-billion-medicare/[/web]
Ryan just needs to say three things:
"Joe, what happened to all the promises you made in 2008?"
"Joe, you admitted that the American middle class has been buried by the economy for the last 4 years."
"Joe, what do you have to say about your Administrations dismal foreign policy and why did you lie to us about Libya?"
That oughta about do it....
I think Ryan won't like the answers he gets to those questions if he's stupid enough to ask them.
The problem Ryan has is his own budget plan and his record on women's rights. Politicians make promises in campaigns all the time and are rarely able to keep most of them. That shot will have no meaning to voters. But Biden will be able ask Ryan about the bills which he has actually cosponsored, voted for and voted against over the last 8 years. His record is hypocritical and extreme.
Most recently, Ryan has supported and voted for bills which cut funds for security at our foreign embassies by 1/2 billion dollars.
Too funny. You conservatives go on and on about "promises" made by Obama and yet, you're ready to swallow the Romney bait, hook, line and sinker! Romney's $5 trillion deficit cut will take 8 to 10 years, but you're all over Obama for not cleaning up the Bush Administration mess in 4 ...
You've taken the "buried comment" completely out of context. But if it makes you happy, yes, the Middle Class has been "buried" since 2003 with 2 unfunded wars and 2 tax breaks for the wealthy. We not out of the hole yet, but I'm not going to hand out shovels to Romney and Ryan to bury even deeper.
No one "lied" about Libya. No one knew ALL of the intelligence for DAYS after the incident and even now, there are still unanswered questions. Go bark up another tree ...
Hats off to you, JohnRJohnson!
All Joe has to do is ask Ryan to look in the mirror and say that while he is pointing 1 finger at Joe, 4 fingers are pointing back at Ryan. Yes the promises were made 4 years ago when the economy had NOT tanked, the government had not had to bailout the banks and the extent of george W's mess was unknown. You are asking Ryan to ask very dangerous question to Joe and he will bury him with facts and figures. Joe in turn could also ask Ryan – a fiscal conservative and so called deficit hawk – how has he supported the tax cuts which have added trillions to the deficit, how he suported medicare program which was not paid for or how he supported 2 unfunded wars which also added trillions to the deficit? Is that the definition of a fiscal conservative and if it is, then our country will be much better off without any one of them.
"All Biden needs to do" is just stand there and take his beating like Obama did. We all knew Obama couldn't run on his record or the next four years and we were right.
So, shall we keep count on the number of "myths and falsehoods" Ryan can utter in 38 minutes? Might be interesting to see if he can beat out Romney on that statistic ...
You are right Obama stood there like an adult and didn't question one of Romney's falsehoods. I watched in amazement as Obama listened to all the crap Romney belched. Want to bet the next two debates will be different? Romney is toast and Ryan, with his record hasn't a chance against a man who actually worries about the middle class and says what he's thinking.
Fareed.....could you be any more of a bleeiding heart liberal?....can't you even try to be objective or at least pretend? It really detracts from the thoughts and opinions you are trying to convey....that is.....if they are in fact even YOUR thought and opinions.
Lee, are you really that stupid naturally or did you have to work at it?
Koolaid anyone?
All Biden has to do is be himself. All Ryan has to do is let him. Debate over; Ryan wins.
The seniors will need that gun to commit suicide when their health care dollars run out.
If I was desperate and had no argument, I might make up some assinine comment like that as well.
Andy...so you did.
So what will the seniors do when their health care dollars run out? Just die the GOP way? Hahahahahahahahahha
seniors are more worried about Obama gutting $750 Billion from Medicare to pay for Obamacare. At least with a voucher paln seniors have a choice instead of Obama's take it or leave it plan. Read the Obamcare plan/bill. It is obvious you have not, because yoour statement about euthanasia, etc is about creating fear.
Then the seniors you know are pretty stupid, because the Romney/Ryan plan removes the same amount of money.
Still repeating the same GOP lie about medicare,Gavin? – you are just like Lyin' Ryan – you couldn't speak the truth if your life depended on it.
You people are REALLY scared aren't you! Boooo, I guess you don't care about the people who are paying into the system today so you can get yours that's typical. I have to buy individual insurance for myself,and it is at the very least, VERY hard to sort through the mess and get a good rate,in fact I would say it is a nightmare, I can only imagine what an older person who maybe doesn't have the best education or no help from family will go through when they have to go out on their on and buy it.GOOD LUCK. So you might want to think about the kids of today instead of being so selfish,It's gonna be your kids or grand kids one day.
That $750 Billion is comming from the medicare advantage program so the Government is actually saving money, Do your homework.
Since you're harping on this subject, I'm going to give you the same answer again...
Explaining the $716B that Obama allegedly steals from Medicare will be quite easy for Joe.
That savings comes from eliminating waste, fraud, and redundant services where patients are given identical tests by different providers within the same claim. The biggest savings comes from eliminating excessive payments to private insurance companies who have been getting paid billions to "administer" the Medicare Advantage program. This is similar to what Obama did with student loans, which had been "administered" by banks, acting as high-paid middlemen who marked up the loan costs. Eliminating unnecessary middlemen in any system can create significant savings.
Obama does this without cutting a signal Medicare benefit. He will take that $716B in SAVINGS and use to help seniors pay for their medication and to pay for wellness visits, which will greatly reduce long-term health care costs.
Of course, Ryan's plan also cuts $716B from Medicare. BUT, he takes that money and uses it to pay for his so-called "premium support" program, which is really a voucher system. What this means is that the people who receive these vouchers will simply hand that money over to private insurance companies, who will then provide coverages which would be significantly less than what Medicare members receive today.
This is not that complicated and Joe will have no trouble explaining, probably using fewer words than I used here. Of course, some people don't really want to learn the details because the details don't make Ryan and Romney look so good, especially to seniors and low to middle income families. Ryan's plan would also cut Medicaid by 30%, which is the only way many elderly people can afford to stay in nursing homes.
I'm sure none of this makes any difference to you, Gavin. Most people who support Romney and Ryan just get annoyed when you start providing some facts.
I'm a senior and I don't worry about Obama's plan. Generalizations about groups are not accurate.
Have you ever had to purchase your own health insurance? My husband and I have for 10+ years as small business owners. It's a NIGHTMARE: rates coninually go up, plans are hear today gone tomorrow, you have to try and predict the future to determine what co-pay / co-insurance combo you may or may not need; not to mention trying to decipher all the fine print with all the EXCEPTIONS/EXCLUSIONS. All I can say is seniors beware!! Finding an honest agent will be the least of your problems with this proposed voucher program.
Have you ever had to purchase your own health insurance? My husband and I have for 10+ years as small business owners. It's a NIGHTMARE: rates coninually go up, plans are here today gone tomorrow, you have to try and predict the future to determine what co-pay / co-insurance combo you may or may not need; not to mention trying to decipher all the fine print with all the EXCEPTIONS/EXCLUSIONS. All I can say is seniors beware!! Finding an honest agent will be the least of your problems with this proposed voucher program.
Gavin,
stop listening to AM radio and right-wing, out there in space, commentators
check out the real facts
[web]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/03/mitt-romney/romney-says-obama-cut-716-billion-medicare/[/web]
You obviously have NEVER had to buy health insurance on your own. I agree with a couple other post, it IS a nightmare. You might have a choice alright if that's what you call it, I hope your voucher will cover it. And I hope you have a PHD so you can figure out which "plan" does the least damage to you and your family. Do a little research and you will find out very quickly it isn't as simple as you think, imagine Medicare advantage on steroids times 10. That's what's comimg.
Florida911 and Jay: Really? Are you seriously making that argument? I guess your mortgage loan application was over your head too. What else is too hard that the Government can take off your plate for you? Figuring out how to read that complicated recipe for Ramen noodles? Deciding which cell phone provider to use? Hmm, do I really need data? What if I use 10001 text messages and go over my limit? The horror! Cable, or DirectTV? I can get a bundle..but do I really need every NFL Game? The choices! I'm overwhelmed! Government, please provide "free" television so I don't have low self-esteem from not being able to figure it out!!!
If that's the argument for Government healthcare, that it's too hard to decide on a policy, we really have sunk low as a nation. If you can't figure it out, ask a friend for help. Hint: The government isn't one.
Why cant' anyone figure out that the issue here isn't that everyone is supposed to have health insurance. The left has done a great job of turning the conversation from health INSURANCE to health CARE. It's a typical democrat squirrel, just like Big Bird. Nobody can rationally argue someone should be cut off from health care, that's horrible! However, it's quite logical to make an argument that there is no right to health INSURANCE. Why should I have to buy insurance if I don't want?
In 2010, my employer raised the deductible on our insurance to $3,000 annually to bring costs down. Everyone rebelled. I paid over $12k in premiums, and realized that in the course of the year that I never reached the deductible – not even close. This included outpatient hernia surgery for my 7-year-old who had a gymnastics injury, and normal expenses for myself (40yo), my wife, and two young kids. What it made me realize is that for the money, I can cover my out of pocket expenses annually for $12,000 annual savings, I can put that in the bank, and every 6 years someone in my family can get $72k worth of ill while I collect interest on the savings. If we don't get sick, my kids will be very happy one day. If we do, we are relatively covered. If it gets worse, I'll get on a payment plan. The only backstop I need is not being able to be forced into bankruptcy by medical expenses, and perhaps a stop-loss policy that covers the extremely out-of-norm.
PS that same employer, as a result of Obama care, is self-insuring in 2013.
ReadingforComprehension......you said you had employer insurance,so you have never had to buy it yourself which is what the other posters were talking about to begin with. As for putting money in the bank instead of insurance what are you going to do should you need cancer treatment which can run into 100s of thousand dollars go beg the doctor or hospital to treat you for nothing. Oh yea bankrupcey, hope you and kids enjoying living in a car.
Give 'em an Obama phone and remind them about Big Bird and Elmo 10 times while avoiding Libya and the economy. Its the Democratic way!
LOL......you nailed it!!!!!
What's the Libya issue again? You think it was Obama's fault that the safe house in Benghazi was attacked by terrorists? You think he and/or Ambassador Stevens should have foreseen that attack and called in a battalion of Marines to protect that house? Are you aware at all that in the last two years Republicans in Congress voted to cut funds used to provide security at our foreign missions by more than 1/2 billion dollars? Oops.
JohnRJohnson- your so lost son. It is Obama's fault that when the ambassador knew he was in danger and asked from additional security, it was denied! It is Obama's fault, that although he knew for months the embassy was in danger, they still didn't call it a terror attack for almost 2 weeks. It's Obama's fault they tried to blame some video no one saw on the attack, and not the real folks, further emboldening our enemies. It's Obama's fault that his failed foreign policy has strengthened our enemies? It's Obaminations fault that his administration is now in FULL cover up mode and saying they never said it wasn't a terror attack – a flat out lie. It's Obama's fault that he and his proxies continued to lie for weeks when they knew within 24 hours that it was a coordinated terror attack. Should I go on?
Well said as always. You make a good point about Romney being a consultant but he is not well-spoken or good on his feet. I think BO's listnesses made Romney look a lot better than he was. If Bill Clinton had been on that stage, he would have shredded Romney like Julienne carrots. The key to winning these debates is to NOT to defend or convince but to ASK the right questions. He who employs the Socratic method effectively can bury the his opponent and overcome the distortions and deceptions which have come to define modern day political discourse.
Hey there Steve-o-reno...why don't you click your heels together 3 times and see if you can turn Obama into Clinton.
Can't be done because Clinton became a moderate when he realized he was no longer in control of congress. Unfortunately Obama's not smart enough to figure that out for himself. Adios Obama and take your mongrel dog Biden with you.
Spot on Steve, as in debate 101!
I think Obama was actually gobsmacked by the steady stream of lies coming out of Romney. Like a lot of other people, meaning everybody, Obama had been hearing Romney say entirely different things over the last 2 years. When Romney spun around and ran from his own previously stated positions, Obama was torn between calling him liar throughout the debate, or focusing on his own message. He focused on the latter, which let Romney continue his world-class flip-flopping in front of 70 million viewers. It was a mistake that I don't think Obama will make twice.
I so enjoy your thoughtful posts JohnRJohnson. Thank you for being so thoughtful.
Johnson – do they have unicorns in the fantasy world that you live in?
I was thinking the same thing,I know I was dumbfounded by Romney's "debate".
Biden should just be Biden, like Obama he is nothing more then a empty suit.
Hmmmmmmmmm...where have I read this before??? Hmmmmmmmmmm...
Biden is going to be crushed. He will, within a minute of the start of the debate, have his foot in his mouth. BTW...this opinions wasn't plagerized, was it?
Why is it that every time I read an article by Fareed zzzzzakaria it seems like I've already read it before?
Must be deja moo.
Because the Obama campaign said it yesterday. The Obama campaign = CNN's primary source of news....
All Ryan needs to do is how stupid Biden is with a lot of hot air and babble mouth.
I love how Fareed and other on the left forget by reducing the tax rate small LLCs will be able to hire more workers, it nice to say 2+2=5 but that is not the equation. So please tell the whole story.
PS I love how the only thing the left has against Romney is the 47% comment that Romney admits was a mistake.
Maybe Fareed should be more worried about all the BS Obama has said on Libya?
Its amazing how so many here know how both men will conduct themselves and what the outcome will be. Wish I were as smart as them, and could look into the future. But I'm just an old soldier of nominal intellect. The comment about Mr Romney's misstep over the 47% issue. His excuse was that in a campaign at a given conference anyone can misspeak is valid: anyone can phrase anything poorly. And his excuse would be acceptable accept for one major issue: days later, he reiterated his comments about the 47% issue, saying he stood by his words. Weeks later, he developed a plausible (to him) excuse. But how can anyone seriously ignore he said what he said, then reiterated it saying he stood behind his words, then weasled out with a dumb excuse. As individuals we can make bloopers and no one will notice. As a President, bloopers like that can't be made nor ignored. He will be on the world stage every minute of his life for four years or more. His word to the world must be measured, evaluated, and represent us all. He will make blunders as President Obama has (and will), but at this juncture he is asking us to put him in office despite his "flip flopping" as many call it. If he actually put out ALL his platform in detail, we would actually KNOW what makes up his platform. And as far as Mr Ryan: even writers over in Fox detailed his lies at speeches. My Daddy taught me to not lie because I wasn't smart enough to get away with it; that no one can lie without becoming caught by someone; and that you must tell more lies to hopefully cover up the original lie. So no matter what the lie, you will always be caught in the lie some time, some where, and by some person. You can't lie in the limelight: you are too vulnerable. Tchuss!
I particularly enjoyed the caught on camera "blooper" of our President telling Putin that he' have more flexibility after he was re-elected . The other one I got a kick out of was the President apologizing for our 1st amendment rights to terrorists groups. I like Joe Biden, what other people view as gaffs, I view as his honesty. He spoke off the cuff supporting gay rights, and changed the President's dialogue on marriage rights. He spoke about the middle class being buried, because they ARE. I'm hoping that that the honest, unfiltered Biden shows up!!
Excuse me, but that's not how it works. No company, large or small, every hired a single new employee just because it got a tax cut. Company's hire when they can't meet consumer demand for their product. THEN they hire. Any company that hires employees it doesn't need is being run by an idiot who won't be in business long. This is a consumer-driven economy. Romney and Ryan are anti-consumer and pro-business. We've tried that for the last decade. Didn't come close to working. Wages went down, productivity went up, corporate profits went up, hiring fell through the floor.
Perhaps you run a different type of business than I do (or than any I've encountered) but tax reductions do in fact impact hiring. Obviously tax reduction increases available cash for the business, which can then be sent out via distributions or plowed back into growth (hiring typically). I disagree that it is 'consumer driven' in all cases. In fact, forward-thinking businesses tend to want to hire in a down market so they are prepared to leverage it when the market comes back. However they won't hire even if they are sitting on tons of cash if they literally cannot predict what their tax exposure is going to be. The billions on balance sheets around the nation right now waiting until some form of predictability comes back to the business context is testament to that.
In some instances, taxes do create jobs. Prop 63 of 2004 in CA increased taxes on those who make over 1 million by 1 %. all this money directly went into the mental health system. there was an explosion of mental health related jobs.
When there is a distinct demand, but supply side is lacking because its not profitable, that's when the government should step in.
@JohnRJohnson: I'm wondering what your source is for your information cause It's all about capital my friend. Lower taxes provides incentives for companies to move to the US. And at the state level as well. Companies and small business provide and create Jobs. When they go to another state or offshore, the jobs go too.
All Ryan needs to do is show and prove how stupid Biden is with a lot of hot air and babble mouth.
So you agree with the attempt at Personhood legislation? (A Ryan platform)
Well Said Ted. Obvious you know why Fareed is one sided is because he is sold out on liberals and democrates. He has only one agenda that is to pomote his agenda even if it means taking the nation down the drain.
Romney's performance may have been great but it was filled with lies and distortions. It seems the entire Republican Party have decided to just pull anything out and throw it and see what sticks. They come up with these little catchy phrase and the people who cannot hink for themselves believe them. This is the most dishonest candidate that has ever run for the office of POTUS. The reason for the flip-flops and etch a sketch because he does not have a core conviction. He will do and say anything to win just to say he was president. He disgusts me.
and this is somehow different than the "yes we can" mantra, prior to the last election? As I knew then, and still know now with this president... "No we can't"!
So you gave the Bush Administration 8 years to bring the country to its knees and you expect Obama to clean it all up in 4? You must think Obama is some smart guy!
mwj – name 5 campaign promises that Obama/Biden made it 2008 and actually kept...
....whats that sucking sound....
thought so
How about 192: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/
Compromised 76
Broke 86
Stalled on 45
I'd be really curious how this compares to past presidents of both parties.
vaseline must have helped your vocal chords.
Its a fact that Biden is a 'show man'he puts on a show. Biden has a short temper, and Biden is not the intellectual academic type. Biden and Ryan are almost more opposite than Romney and Obama. I ask that all viewers think about the differences between government expansion, and corporate expansion. One of them, needs to expand. Our country has gone through four years of govt expansion. IS the answer more govt expansion? or is the answer about creating jobs from corporate expansion? A fundamental difference in how you believe our country should be managed, this is an election about 'ideology' not a single President.
So what was it under Bush, corporate or government expansion? The result at the end wasn't pretty.
Peter, in case you missed it – the single most devastating impact to the economy going into recession was the failure of the real estate market, doomed by de-regulation of mortgages by Bill Clinton.
Maybe you blame Bush's 2 wars.....? That would be absurd because Bill Clinton had 3 shots at bin Laden but failed to act as a leader and take them because he didn't want 'any bad publicity'. No bin Lader would = no 9/11 would = no basis for Iraq or Afghanistan wars...
At the end of the day, Bill Clinton f'd this country up. And defiled the oval office getting a hummer from a fatty intern...
bingo................LMISW,
Clinton's only achievement was making BJ's popular.
He "blew"(sorry) several attempts at protecting the US.
........a couple of cruise missles launched at Iraq to take out a baby formula plant(wmd).lol
to name one and the uss cole etc.
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The big problem is too much government and too much government expense. Obama and the dems have a spending problem that they have no interest in addressing. 6 trillion in debt in about 4 years is a big problem. Time to resize our bloated government. Time to stimulate business and jobs, not government debt. Time for a realistic government budget. Time to address unfunded liabilities (empty promises). Ryan will have the facts and figures; Biden will have the blame game and denial. Who will turn this country around? I say better vote republican for our children's sake.
How did the Bush and the Republicans pay for the 2 wars, the tax cuts and Medicare Part D?
Peter, remember....if Bill Clinton had the guts to take out Bin Laden on one of many occasions when we had an open shot, there wouldn't have been any 9/11, and no reason for the wars Bush got us into. Thats the truth.
Right on target Jack – GREAT comment!
It's tough to be an obama sycophant these days, eh plagiarist?
So if Biden wins, will he and Obama switch places on the ticket? In the grand scheme of things, Biden winning his debate amounts to "so what?" He is not the President and he does not make the decisions.
The scariest scenario would be that Biden would be forced to take the reigns upon an Obama impeachment. Hoo boy.
The silver fox is 69 years old, has an obvious drinking problem, and insists that his wife be referred to as 'Dr. Biden' even though she's just a college professor. Its pretty clear that the downward spiral for Biden's mental capacity is well under way...
PaulyD – Why do you say Biden has an obvious drinking problem? That's a new one, and no I'm not a fan of him, but just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you trash him personally.
Zakaria wonders why obama didn't bring up Romney's 47% conflict... well maybe because it would be so easy to diffuse in person. Even in Obama's attack ads, it is evident to anyone with any intelligence that Romney was talking about campaign strategies, not how his administration would run the office of the president.
In person, Romney can simply and clearly point out that Obama faces his own 47% (or more, or less) of solid conservatives , and that if he were asked to honestly answer whether he would focus his campaign efforts on them, would say essentially the same thing as Romney – he can't worry about reaching voters (in campaign) who clearly oppose his philosophy.
While yes, Romney was careless – partly, but not entirely inaccurate – in identifying who made up that 47%, the basic logic of what he was actually saying made, and still makes perfect sense. And he can honestly and simply explain that to any undecideds who have otherwise swallowed the illogical misrepresentations of the Obama smear ads.
As for the Romney tax plan, well, there Zakaria goes again – the tax plan was tried before and was dramatically successful before in terms of raising revenue. In fact, it was so successful that it helped spur the longest running growth economy in the history of the US. Reagan began it (although Reagan wisely spent heavily on military, still leaving a deficit). Clinton continued it and benefitted from it. So did GW Bush, except GW Bush – in response to 9/11 – entered into two expensive wars without recognizing the need for a special "war tax" to insulate the federal budget.
Obama is a talented fundraiser, but a talentless leader, and a talentless politician. He has done more to divide this country into two camps than any other president in recent memory, including GW Bush – who at least tried for partisan cooperation.
I'm afraid that Biden still has the edge over Ryan though. Biden is a more consummate liar.
Notice the liberal media can't contain their bias any longer it's out front for all to see
Those looking to paint Romney as a liar are laughable. Obama is the most disingenious president in recent history. As terribly alien to unique American values his rhetoric is, his actions have been much worse. From executive orders,a corrupt Suprememe Court, amnesty, Czars, Obamacare, departmental fiat, crash the US economy etc this man's intent on building a tyrannical Federal govt could never be openly discussed as he would be tossed from the office.
America is the a unique idea that Obama would destroy forever.
Fareed and others on this site so yearning for the collectivist utopia should get the hell out and got to Venezuela
at the end of the day, it won't matter who is elected. neither party is willing to make the changes that we need. This likeThelma(republicans) and Louise( democrats), they are both going to take us over the cliff all the while shouting at each other
Romney thinks no one dies in their apt if they have no health care. what a d bag.
What Biden must do is not be himself for 90 minutes. I don't think he can do it.
biden should say that he,his boss,obama, hillary plus the un ambassador, coupled with the terrible state dept lady,lamb: should admit taking responsibilty for bad decesions in libya that resulted in the deaths of the 4 americans..he would then become the first obama person to tell the truth and not have to have the mouthpiece,carney,explain in total mumbo speak,how biden never said whatever he said.if he did this he could replace obame by telling the truth.
All Biden has to do is just be himself. Destruction will follow. He is second to Obama the most disgusting representation of a human being. This guy will self destruct tonight!!
I will vote Obama because he gave me my free obamaphone! Now I can call all my homies on their obamaphones! We don't pay a cent! Good thing is I don't have to work anymore, get foodstamps and gov't handouts, all thanks to Obama! Me n my homies all be voting for Obama!
I gots an Obamaphone 2! Obama has that swagger! I would vote for him too so I can keep my gov't handouts, but I'm a convicted felon, with 8 kids. Obama helps me like no other though! I don't worry about working anymore. Ok, I should be looking for a job, but I must go watch my daily Judge Judy show. Holla!
Best comment on this whole rag
Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth : the so called Obamaphone was originated by that well known socalist Ronald Reagan following the break-up of AT&T in 1984. It was expanded and formalized in 1996. The program is paid for by telecommunications companies, not through tax revenue. Ignorance is bliss.
HAHAHA...really? It is a US Government federally subsidized program whereby the phones themselves are reimbursed with taxpayer dollars, and the telephone companies make piles of money on all the minutes poor people buy.
By the way, the phone companies that benefit – both owned by big Obama campaign donors – one of whom is Carlos Slim, a MEXICAN businessman.
Wake TF up.
Carlos Slim is really Lebanese, married to a Lebanese woman, but grew up in Mexico. Most of his businesses are in Mexico. He is the richest man in the world, and the US taxpayers are a really good customers.
I looked into getting one of these phones for my disabled daughter....step one is you fill in a form and one of the questions is " what is your phone number" I Kid you NOT. Without putting in a phone number you can't even get a list of the companies that provide these services...the obvious question is if you have a phone WHY DO YOU NEED a cellphone.....am I missing something or are cell phones considered essentials even if you have a regular wired phone....??????
Blaming Obama for a program that was in place and hasn't changed since he's been in power is hilarious. But I guess that kind of logic would make sense if you listen to Hannity/Limbaugh/Fox News on a regular basis.
Thats why Obama voters call them Reagan phones and will vote for Romney. The plan started under Reagan to benefit rural voters and telecom companies. It has been turned into a huge urban giveaway. Obama takes credit, let him take blame.
when will the media stop the bias???? it is obvious that cnn is just another campaign outlet for obamas re-election attempt. its so pathetic how biased cnn is. you guys sit here and act like you arent taking sides when all you do is bash anyone who is against obama
Zacharia you are such a bag!! Your disgusting liberal face shows in everything you do. You must be a troubled man.
Muslims gotta stick together.
Just leave the US for another country. I guarantee that you will live better.
I wonder who Zakaria's pullin' for? Jeesh. Western journalism totally blows.
Why is this plagairist still working here?!?
He's just 'towing the CNN line'.
Never in the history of all media has one organization been so totally biased in its coverage of an election. Recent performance ratings have should CNN to be the least watched, least read, and least trusted media organization in America. Its hard to believe that the network is willing to commit hari-kari and fall on its rating sword just to keep pushing Obama down our throats. Whats worse is the treatment that CNN is likely to get from Romney when he takes office – if I were him, CNN would get no access, no press passes and no sympathy for this BS they sling...
AND ?
RYAN WILL BE TRIPPED UP IN THE FIRST 5 MINUTES. HE IS A CHRONIC LIAR AND JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO HELP HIMSELF. THAT IS HIS ONLY STRENGTH LYING REMORSELESSLY....JUST LIKE MITTENS!
Another Obama drone...can't come up with any accomplishments of the Obama Administration, so resorts to 'liar liar'. Pathetic and childish....
Obama saved us from going over the financial cliff into a great depression, especially Detroit. Ohioans will never forgive Romney for advocating letting Detroit collapse in bankruptcy. Mitt might come close, but he cannot win without Ohio.
Spot on. Nothing is more difficult than trying to lie in order to defend a lie and Ryan's fellow liar-in-chief, especially a string of lies.
What does Obama helping Detroit have to do with Ohio. You do know that Detroit is in Michigan, right?!? As it stands, Michigan is on the verge of swinging over to Romney.
Ohio needs someone who supports American Energy Independence and taking all the stupid regulations off their huge coal inustry. Romney is that man, and Ohio will vote for Romney too..
If you believe it... It will happen?
Good luck with that:)
Let's talk after the debate... Okie-dokie?
Oh, just shut up. You're part of the reason the country is still in this mess because you got conned by Obozo, his glib tongue and emptry promises. He's INCOMPETENT. In Romney's words to Obama per that debate" 'your policies don't work.' No kidding. And I bet you said in some earlier pre-debate post that Obama would make mincement out of Romney. Uh, no. Can't understand why anyone would vote for four more years of rising unemployment, foreign policy and economic despair.
Not caring what anyone of those who attempt to write and paraphrase 'what is going to happen' between Biden and Ryan, and listen/read what anyone on this list has to say about Obama, who wasn't as agressive as many of us had hoped he would have been, because we all have different strengths and manners in which we deliver a message to those who are supposed to have done their homework and were to have been listening to what each of those men had to say..while.knowing what will happen if Romney is elected; my HOPE is that Biden will nails Ryan to the wall by giving Ryan part of his time to speak, so Ryan can blantantly tell 'the people' what his plan will take away from our safety nets, remembering that 'this choice' we will be making isn't about Obama, but that it's 'about how YOUR MAMA will fare' after the Rich are allowed to get into office to get richer !!
Being in the 47% is apparently taking its strain on you.
Fareed Zakaria, get your facts straight. Economists have proven through extensive modeling that Mitt Romney's plan is technically capable of doing EXACTLY what he said. Therefore, your statement "the fact that Romney’s tax plan simply doesn’t add up – he cannot do a 20 percent tax rate cut while also retaining all the big deductions for most people without massively adding to the deficit. He certainly can’t do it while also promising to maintain Medicare and Social Security as is for current retirees." is completely baseless. Where did you get your information to make that claim? The Obama campaign? David Axelrod?
Just more CNN home cooking for Obama....its getting real old and a little disgusting.
I couldn't agree more. Obama called Romney's plan a lie citing the analysis done by Princeton University. This was quickly rebuked by one of the co-authors of the Princeton study saying Obama misinterpreted his conclusions. Obama couldn't get the Dems to support his jobs bill but preferred to blame it on the Republicans. As Zakaria stated "This time, you have a Republican ticket that is steeped in public policy – and knows how to articulate ideas. Romney’s entire training in the private sector primes him for these kinds of debates. After all, what do management consultants do? They provide crisp, compelling presentations on what a problem is and what their solution would be." These sound like the qualifications needed to address our country's needs to me. Compare that to a President that couldn't put a budget together in nearly four years! This office should not be used for "on the job training".
What Biden must do?? Everyone knows Biden's an idiot, a wannabe bling rock star that puts his foot in his mouth every day. Some of his comments are just laugh out funny and ridiculous. Others are simply moronic. Yeah, he's a huge asset to the government of the United States. If he died, no one would know about it for two weeks.
How many Mitts does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Two.
Critical Thinker? LOL! How about Vacuous Thinker? How many Romneys did it take to trounce Obama in the debate, genius? About 0.5. And now we have a debate coming up in which Obama will be shown to have lied to us about what really happened in Benghazi. He should be impeached for deceipt and incompetence. What a joke of a president. We can't afford four more years of joblessness, declining GDP and another recession.
Joe is the junkyard dog that is going to eat Ryan for dinner.
Ryan is a W A N K E R, not a W O N K E R.
How many Mitts does it take to change a lightbulb? Two, because we don't know which one will show up.
Actually two, because he puts a 47%'er back to work instead of just letting them sponge up my taxes a la Obama...
Joe is going to ask Ryan to explain his Ayn Rand ideology. If it is insufficient or a lie, Joe will keep peppering Ryan until the facts are displayed for everyone to judge.
Yeah, trust Joe Biden! Why, I've never seen a politician with such a deep grasp of the issues, able to speak effectively on any issue, utter one pearl after another, someone on whose words we utterly hang. Yes, Joe Biden, of great lineage...son of Moe, Larry or Curly. Take your pick! LOL!!!!
As Eddie Izzard says, people's reactions are based 70% on how you look, 20% how you sound, and 10% what you say. Romney looked good and sounded good. It didn't matter if most of what he said was in direct contradiction to his positions thus far.
Biden the no brain bubblehead who cannot keep his own feet out of his mouth needs to stop being the laughing stock of the world. That would be a good start.
Joe needs to tell the truth, something you do not know how to do. Ryan will win in a TKO.
I just hope, for the love of God, that Biden is able to stay off the sauce before he takes the stage. The least he could do would be to show up not drunk, but thats unlikely....
Zakaria – did you cite your plagarism source today? Biden is toast......just like his boss.
Joe just needs to be Joe by telling the truth and pointing out Ryan's lies. I'd rather hear a "gaffe" than the straight out lies coming from Romney/Ryan.
I think BIDEN needs to come clean with the American People.
He needs to admit OBAMA is a Hoax.
He needs to admit we prolonged a recovery and made it worse.
He needs to admit we ripped off the tax payer, mortgaged their future and paid off their cronies.
He needs to admit foreign policy is a shambles.
He needs to admit the OBAMA administration has so screwed everything up that the only hope is to vote for him and OBAMA so that America can quickly become a third world nation and stand proud knowing we are the finest third world nation there is.
But to be serious. BIDEN has always been considered a Stupid Man.
Biden has NEVER achieved the respect of his colleagues.
Hes the old warrior politician that gains votes by recalling his dead wife and playing the game.
But hes a plagiarist and very vain and stupid man more concerned with his hair plugs and having a good time.
Biden is exactly the kind of politician we need to kick OUT of Government.
What planet do you live on? He is one of the most respected people in office and highly intelligent..... you'll see soon enough.
Biden also needs to ACT LIKE A VICE PRESIDENT ....ie use civil language instead of acting like some fool who cannot speak without using foul language. Makes me SICK how the media says "oh well its just Joe, you know how he is"...
Fareed forgot the really important reason Obama was the loser. He is surrounded by swooning press who created a fairy tale "President" from the man we call Obama.
I do not think Obama ever wanted to be a real President. He just wanted the movie star version . Now all he wants to do is cash in on the sequel. We all know that sequels suck.
Anyone watch the big bang theory on TV.
Tonight's debate will be like watching an argument between Sheldon (Ryan) and Pennie (well see if you can figure out who I mean)
Biden just need to have Ryan explain how they can promise tax cuts for everyone yet not have any deductions eliminated, nor cut the military, nor cut medicare and still miraculously balance the budget. It doesn't add up and Biden needs to point out Romney /Ryan are lying when they say it does.
no cotest tonight, a fool for president and a stooge VP,communists obama and biden gone Nov 2012
Maybe Biden can explain how to set a good example for American Youth ...like using civil language as though he is a Real VP rather than Ol Foul mouthed Joe the media winks at!
babbling biden will be lucky if he is awake at 9:00 tonight.obama 's failed administration will only be highlited by biden.the democrats ,working Americans and retirees will take our party by kicking these communists out Nov 2012
only thing Biden has working against him is the himself and his boss for the last 3.8 years
Okay, Zak had me interested until he said "There is no question there were substantive problems, most notably the fact that Romney’s tax plan simply doesn’t add up"..
Dude, economists have already address this issue and have found that it can be done as described by Romney. Zak, either you are out of touch, or are unwilling to state the facts.
Biden has to be aggressive, attack Paul Ryan for all his hateful, bigoted and lying programs. He should ask Ryan how his medicare "vouchers" won't cut my medicare benefits. "Are they magic, Mr. Ryan?" "Or are you lying to the American people?"
There is no explanation of a policy which would satisfy you. Based on your first sentence, you are predisposed to hate Ryan, and possibly any Republican for that matter. Please seek help.
CNN,
Where is your article about what Ryan must do, or are you only concerned about Biden and team Obama?
LOL – Zakaria – more reporting where he is acting like a shill from the Obama campaign. We all know your vision of America – ultimately structured as a Muslim state – just as you attempted to do in your home country of India. Now -have you plagiarized any part of this story again son???
They should broadcast Biden's debate remarks on Comedy Central and leave Ryan's on the prime time networks. At leas that way, the Dems will be able to dismiss the inevitable gaffes as humor
Why is this couched in terms of what Joe Biden has to do to win? Are you a democratic strategist?
Why wouldn't you at least try and make an effort at being even handed by also stating what Paul Ryan has to do to win?
Or am I missing the balanced counter article you wrote on Ryan?
I'm glad Zakaria and so many other media personalities have come out of the closet and announced themselves as the highly partisan commentators they are. At least it's all out in the open now.
BTW, Romney's plan is based on growth projections–optimistic, sure, but a lot different than the "lie" everyone has been accusing him of.
Fareed – great article! I couldn't agree with you more!
"They provide crisp, compelling presentations on what a problem is and what their solution would be."
Wow,I can hardly wait until Mitt starts doing this, because we haven't seen it so far...
Biden needs to tell the truth about the Ryan and Rooney's lies. He just need to tell the people about how selfish and manipulative these two are.
nice article Fareed. who'd you steal it from, you jihadist?
So – Obama is family friends with the moderator AND WENT TO HER WEDDING. Her babies father IS A SENIOR MEMBER OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. Zakaria seems to be plaguerizing this piece directly from the Obama campaign site, and we are told we have a free and fair press in the US. WHAT A JOKE! I never thought revolution would be a serious discussion. But this is scary.
NICE ARTICLE. HEY FAREED, WHO WROTE THIS FOR YOU??
Do not say that to him. He apologized for his actions already. LOL
THE LIBERALS SAW OBAMA DEBATE AND NOW REALIZE SANTA ISN'T REAL... BOO HOO!!
Yeah, but now they're counting on the tooth fairy
....and the "cons" saw a Wall St used car saleman in a $4000 suit do what he spnt his life doing -convincing IdIot$ we was smart and they should let his "consulatants" destroy their company, send their jobs to China, give the clown$ running the company an undeserved bonus, take a fat cut for himself and go exit stage left (or far, far right in his case).
you'd have to be brain dead to buy the ridiculous lie that a guy who only created jobs IN CHINA (except for a few stockbroker and butler positions here) can reverse himself and go 180 deg opposite of what he spent 20 yrs doing and create jobs here. and that his undereducated lifelong govt employee who only private sector experience consists of helping run the family business (which got 90%+ of its income from govt contracts, how ironic).right.....and he ran a sub 3hr marathon too. hahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha. what a joke.
Joe Biden is a joke as VP. He should retire. He had some good years earlier in his career. Remember he was ALL IN on Iraq with Bush.
I concluded that Biden was chosen and kept on as VP because he is even more incompetent than his boss Obama, therefore making the President look good. After all, if Obama chose someone with class or leadership skills or intelligence he would be outperformed and we can't have that now can we.
Fareed, since getting caught plagiarizing why are you weighing in on politics? who wrote this for you? go back to GPS and talk about international stuff
Come on CNN WHERE'S THE STORY.
On eve of USS Cole bombing anniversary, US embassy guard in Yemen assassinated
Multiple masked gunmen opened fire and murdered a 20-year U.S. embassy employee in Sanaa, Yemen early this morning,Can’t wait for lying liar Susan Rice and I DIN'T KNOW OBAMA to tell us this had nooooooothing to do with jihad, either.
Now, come on Fareed, fess up. Who really wrote an article about what Biden has to do?
I believe what Biden is going to do is cite Ryan from the recent past on an issue where he deferred in his position from the "new" Romney. Then he will either let Ryan stumble into the trap of contradicting himself, or expose with his audience-winning grin that there is a big rift between Romney and Ryan that stems from Romney changing his positions with the strongest wind. – The worst is, that there is nothing Ryan can practice before the debate to deflect such a strategy.
VP Biden is on the horns of a dilemma. Like President Obama, he now has to defend a failed administration. President Obama tried, and did his best, but as usual, his best was just not good enough. Look for VP Biden to bluster, yell, and interrupt: anything to take attention away from this administration's record. If he answers a question directly, look for a lie.
Don't forget, he is a serial plagiarizer, and this has been his modus operandi since he was in law school.
Curious, this post is called What Biden Must Do, but I didn't read any substantial advice for Biden in this article. Fareed certainly could have borrowed some ideas from other writers on the actual topic!
But seriously, Biden is probably not Ryan's intellectual equal, and knows that going in. Ryan needs to remain calm, as he can get a little angry at times. He needs to articulate how Biden and his boss have turned a blind eye towards fiscal reform of the largest programs the government operates, and in so doing showed their lack of care for seniors. Social Security and Medicare (as well as Medicaid) desperately need reform of they won't be around for the rest of us (I'm 46), period. Obama has paid lip service (and barely any of that) to these fixes. That's unconscionable, and it's terrible leadership. Obama of course took the politically safer route of not talking about it and certainly not actually going on record by doing something about it. Ryan and the GOP played the much more politically risky game of trying to tackle the real problems with real solutions. You didn't like their solutions? Great, then let's figure out something that works for everyone. Except for one problem – Obama wouldn't come to that party. And this proves his failure as a leader. Fixing these programs should be our country's #1 goal at this time, but Obama barely thought about or addressed the issue. He's a failure! Boot him out in November
let's see, a plagarist giving advice to a lying, liberal fascist politician; sounds about right!
All Joe needs to talk about is the three letter word.....JOBS......that's right
Biden will be cooked like the proverbial Christmas goose! Biden is a crook politician, a fake Catholic and old, old bitter man. Can't wait to see the roast! Goodbye and good riddance to both he and Obama come November 6. CNN, you can spin this anyway you want, but you are a biased news organization, with biased in the tank for Obama reporters. As a news organization you are as evil as the President and all his cronies.
Foreign policies and wars.
Stop supporting foreign aid. ( Middle Eastern countries)
Bring back overseas corporations back to USA .
My mother in law has had cancer twice, diabetes, and eye problems among other thing. I can only guess the horror it will be if she has to get insurance own her own. The rates will for exceed the voucher and any SS she might get. I guess this is what kids of today get to look forward too.
Where is my comment please?
This truly is the debate I have looked forward to. I cannot wait. Obama was smart enough to dodge and get away from his own record. he stumbled and stammered around as though he had no idea what he was doing....in reality, he was using an ignorance method to avoid standing up to what has happened. He was careful not to blame everything on Bush because that just doesnt fly any longer as the Congress (democratically controlled at the beginning) passed his TARP (CRAPULUS) bill and he got what he wanted to "get things going". Nothing got going except the same ole Blame Bush idea. He promised virtually everything in the world and in the end got nothing moving but welfare recipients, unemployment roles and underemployment for those who actually got something. Biden WILL NOT be as smart! He will actually try to defend it to a young man who has researched this budget thing to the max. He will try to justify his "harmless gaffes" and my prediction is, he will look as crazy as a loon! count on it. His pride will do him in. In football terms, he will force a play and Ryan will intercept it and run it back everytime! I cannot wait!
Biden must drone these b@sta@rds...trainee al qaeda groups and successors to them with HQ in India. Fry 'em.
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• RASHTRIYA SWAYAM SEWAK SHANG (R.S.S.)
• VISHWA HINDU PARISHAD
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• BHARATIYA JANATA PARISHAD
• SANT SAMITI
• HINDU MAHASABHA
• BAAJRANG DAL
LEADERS: L.K. Advani/ Ashok Singhal/ Bala Saheb Devaras/ Bal Thackeray/ A.B. Vajpayee/ Savarkar/ Baikunnth Lal Sharma “Prem”/ Balraj Madhok/ The Shankaracharya of Puri, Niranjan Dev Theerth/ Rama Gopalan/ Variyar – Vishwan Hindu Parishad/ Dharmalinga Nadar/ Cho Ramaswamy
Biden's "Rope a Dope" stradegy he looks more like the "Dope on the Rope" with all his gaffes.
Well ain't this a hoot. One lying plagiarizer offering advice to another lying plagiarizer. Well Fareed did you actually come up with this advice on your own or did you steal it from someone else?
I have a Master in Economics and I know Ryan is not a wonk, just pretending to be one with some materials left from his some undergraduate Econ classes.
Fareed,
The last little "evaluation" of the Republican ticket using your revisionist history is hilarious! Let's just take the Reagan/Bush ticket. Reagan was not only a sucessful Governor in California but was also used to Public Relations, how to talk to people and how to assess a situation, then handle it correctly. Bush was former CIA Director and knew infinite amounts of inside info on how the government works, foreign policy and what was actually going on in the country at the time. While I agree, Romney and Ryan are quite ateam of professionals, the Reagan/Bush team was better ready to hit the ground running and history (not revisionist) has reflected that. Obama/Biden were both ill prepared to inhabit the Presidency/Vice-Presidency and their lack of ability is reflected in the economy, foreign policy in the middle east and to a certain degree, National Security policy right here on our southern borders. May I invoke a lack of fencing/walls, deficit of Border Patrols, ICE not willing to deport those apprehended by LE in various states and Fast & Furious debacle. Just too much ineptness for leadership!! Too much!
So......this is the same Biden that let a two bit reporter put him in a turmoil in '08?
He needs to just not show up, not saying Ryan is smarter, I am saying ANYBODY is smarter.
BWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAH
All Biden has to do is say nothing. He cannot win anyway so clamming up is the best approach. If he gets mad he will come off looking like a lunatic. And we certainly do not want a lunatic a heartbeat away form being President.
Just call Ryan a liar over and over!!! That is much easier than running on the Obama/Biden record of failure
While I'm not an Obama supporter, I wouldn't underestimate a guy who has spent a long time debating in the Senate. I think the danger for Biden isn't gaffes or actual debating, I think it's coming across as genuine. For Ryan, he has to make sure he doesn't look like Dan Quayle up there and I don't think he will.
Realistically, Romney/Ryan can't get much upside out of this, their best result will be holding serve. Obama/Biden has more upside to gain.
Wow, I don't think Fareed wrote this article either. Wasn't this in the times earlier this week. How can CNN continue to employ this HACK!
It must be easy to work for CNN. Just cut and paste from democrats talking points memo...
DON'T forget about the free benefits, welfare, and you don't have to even LOOK for a job... WHEN Romney wins, there is going to be a massive chimpout.
WHEN Romney wins, lookout.... there is going to be a massive CHIMP-OUT
When Romney wins Jerry Springer is going be really upset. All the guest on his show from Alabama,South Carolina,Georgia, Tennessee, and all the other RED STATES won't be able to rotate on his show anymore, since they will have to carry their pale, incest loving, cheese eating azzes to work. I mean seeing as how the RED STATES get more gov't assistance than all the other states.
Fareed – I can easily counter your Romney tax attack. Like all Democrats you're only addressing the issue from a revenue side. What liberals haven't figured out yet is that the problem in Washington isn't tax generation, it's SPENDING! Do you manage your household account the way Congress manages it's revenue? I think NOT! In case you forgot Romney clearly said that he's going to review Federal Agencies and programs with a clear litmus of whether we can afford to fund them.
The free lunch is OVER!
Romney is a draft dodging tax evader who thinks half the country are moochers off the wealthy elite. He couldn't care less about anyone else.
Clinton, did he not dodge the draft...?
"This is a man without a core, a man without substance, a man that will say anything to become president of the United States."
Republican Rudy Giuliani on Romney
Obama, Mr Civility
Romney, Mr Hostility
Obama with great composure
Romney with indecent exposure
Obama’s comely winks
Romney’s nervous blinks
America wake up
Keep Obama on top
Romney with his foreign policy....
OBAMA has NO policy,
DID not the left drill and dig to where the "previous administration" aka Bush II, get his intelligence of weapons of mass destruction? THE left had a field day, NOW the shoe is on the other foot, and the press is completely letting OBAMA slide on his 'intelligence' reports... OH yeah, he needed to pay for GM (GOVERNMENT MOTORS) VOLT, along with spending tax payers money into defunct solar companies....
Ans: plagiarize
TAKE someone else's work and call it his own...
Obama and Biden=Pinochio and Howdy Doody
ROTFLMAO
When a reporter or commentator writes an article of what one person from one party has to do to be successful, he becomes a biased tool or mouthpiece of one party or the other and no longer has credibility as an honest reporter nor commentator. Such is Zakariah. Might as well join MSNBC or Fox News cause you no longer can trust a balanced report.
They wouldn't hire the plagiarist terrorist.....
Didn't this guy get outed? Go away you liberal plagiarist
HE is a mouthpiece for the LEFTist agenda. HE is a plagiarizer. ANY one else would have been fired......
Looks similar to most terrorists too.....go figure
Zakariah is also the guy who studied the best plan of medical care and concluded it was Tiawan. Even after noting the primary care doctors there worked a 12 hour a day, 6 day-a-wek job, were expected to see 200 patients a day and got low pay while patients average stay in hospital was about a week, about twice as long as here. What quality of person would consider being a doc and how many mistakes would one make overworking in those conditions. Brilliant conclusion if you do not know what you are talking about!
He probably plagiarized the story..
thanks Doc.....so much for the idea that Dr's are our best and brightest. my brother sells pharma to you over-educated in biology, undereducated at life suggestible dolts. 200 patients a day huh? musta fluked math too l-ike Ryan the guy with the fearsome BS in BS. not even a Masters let alone a PhD. he's just a lifelong govt employee who sucks up to the status quo, had a couple classes in Excel and knows what a pivot table is. who, I'm soooooo impressed (not).
cant wait for universal care so you can jettison the 70% of your staff involved in billing and you can do back to doing what you do know how to do -be a Dr. and stay away from things you dont understand like obviously, economics.
What Biden has to do...
Get a brain transplant?
Surfers for Obama
-I have a Master in Economics and I know Ryan is not a wonk, just pretending to be one with some materials left from his some undergraduate Econ classes.-
A masters from University of Phoenix no less. Dude if you want credibility, don't state you have a degree in economics and say you support Obama – a paradox of epic proportions.
The fact of the matter is, even a cave man can understand but the conservatives cant because all they know is how to hate others.
WHY is it we are haters? THE minute we disagree with ANYONE on the left we are given this line...
Your lowering yourself below a cave man? Shame the mental capacity of you libs is so low.
wow Fred you're too intelligent to be commenting here esp seeing thru lifelong govt employee Ryan who laughably calls himself a "wonk". on puleeze......and the nitWit ran a sub 3 hr marathon too. in his dreams......Univ of Phoenix, the diploma mill for the brain dead.
First don't take any advice from Zakaria...second just shut your mouth Joe...you will do better.
Inshallah Allah shall have his revenge !
Obama-Biden 2012 !
Sorry to tell all you Republican Robots up here, but you can cancel Rmoney winning Ohio. Early voting results came out today with thousands of Ohio voters already casting their ballot. It shows that Obama has a 2 to 1 advantage. Can't wait to see how the pale robots up hers try to spin that.
Nice try. I'm playing at Firestone CC in Akron and your statement is completely made up....got it....a bold face lie. I am here covering the early voting chump – take your lies elswhere...although the libs here probably believe it.
Just out of curiosity, does Ohio require ANY type of ID or proof of citizenship to vote early (or often)?
Obama takes credit? Yet another made up 'fact'. Probably directly from Hannity (or Limbaugh's) mouth. I challenge you to link me to any video or article that quotes him taking credit for the program. You will come up empty. What's next ? Obama says he likes the movie 'Looper'. Fox News headline will probably read something like 'Obama takes credit for Looper's success'.
Wow Fareed Plagaria got his job back???
Only to cover Biden. Makes Biden feel more at home.
Carlos Sims, the world's richest man with a net worth over 70 billion dollars and one of President Obama's biggest supporters is getting richer from the US Governments program that supplies so-called Obama phones to the poor. Sims who owns controlling interest in TracFone which makes $10.00 per phone for each device it provides to "poor" Americans. The company also makes extra money off of extra minutes and data plans. Obama hates rich people, unless he get campaign donations from them.
Tell that to the Koch brothers and that sleazy Las Vegas casino magnate (Adkins?). And to the supreme court
who made it possible for ALL of them (including Sims) to attempt to BUY the White House...
Biden needs to get in Ryan's face and stay there! He needs to call Ryan a liar every time he (Ryan) lies. Biden
needs to slap Ryan's mouth shut every time he tries to talk out of turn, and kick Ryan's behind every time Ryan
gets rude with himself, the moderator, or the people of the audience. In short Biden needs to SHUT Ryan and
the GOP down!!!
What you mean is for Biden to shut Ryan and the GOP up. Last I heard this was to be a "debate" whereby both parties listen and contribute. Not too much into the democratic process are you?
I can't remember ever seeing the word "wonk" used so much in one day. Funny how CNN can't just tell it like it is: Ryan cares enough to know the issues thoroughly and Romney's background makes him eminently qualified for the position. You know, it's a real simple decision if you care in the slightest about the candidates' qualifications. Obama has been a Teacher, Attorney and Community Organizer, and has not excelled at any of those things. Biden graduated 76th out of 85 in law school and has accomplished virtually nothing in the private sector. Romney built a incredibly successful company from scratch, ran the Olympics and governed a state. Ryan was elected to the Senate before he turned 30 and actually WORKS HARD at understanding the issues, not just playing politics. Simple choice.
Ryan works Hard at appealing to the very dimmest wits among us. He's a witless empty suit...
Most reps on the Hill (yes, even the dems!) agree that Ryan is one of the smartest and sharpest voices up there. Whose intelligence, or lack thereof, are you putting forth?
The Muslim Brothehood endorses Joe Biden for Vice President .
He and Obama gives us billions of American Dollars and lets us import Sharia law to the USA .
Inshallah Obama -Biden will make America Sharia compliant .
I don't believe Obama wants to win the election by his demeanor in the last prez debate. Why would he want to win? His policies have failed! Everyone is hounding him, even Michelle. The press is hounding him now for Benghazi. He has made mistakes repeatedly. He has won the noble prize already. Now there is no motivation for him to become president again. If people vote for him, he will win, but Idon't think he himself would like to win!
Biden doesn't have to do anything but be himself and talk up medicare. He is such a charasmatic grandpa, he should focus on the seniors.
The youngsters don't remember to vote anyway. Clinton found that out with his MTV campaign.
With 35 years of experience Biden is not much of a help to Obama.
Where is GW Bush, Dick Cheyney, Don Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Paul ONeil, John Snow or Henry Paulsen to remind us about their priorities and choices during the 8 years of George W. Bush. Cut taxes and deregulate. Paul Ryan learned about Republican orthodoxy from these men. Wake up folks. Its not about one debate, we have an 8 year record to illustrate the Republican value system.
People of the United States of America and Zareed,
Zareed, whatever Paul Ryans Health Care plan is it is NOT Mitt Romneys Health care plan.
Ryan is not going to be President for 8 years,remember, just like President Obama,Mr Ryan will "Evolve" on Healthcare so "not to worry" as a Greek fellow I knew a while back would say to me when problems on a project came up.Next if Unlce Joe goes into "Rope a Dope" mode I am sure Mr.Ryan will counter with "Shock and Awe" so again;Not To Worry".
Democrats selling their family and country to keep their jobs.
This is a debate that Joe Biden will win without a doubt. All he has to do is copy a speech from someone and recite it.
The basis of Leftist logic is that their position is simply unmanifested reality. So any thoughts that are different are defying the laws of global warming or gravity. And hence, if uttered strongly enough, are lies, pure and simple. Flat out. So now we have clowns Stewart trumping Jack Welch on discussions about the economy and have Joe Biden pretending not be be anything other than a clown too.
I just want to see Biden at least once screw up like he did in their original election when he said vote for Biden / McCain hahaha... He is his own worse enemy and I think if the truth were to come out he is unfit to be the VP
I'm a senior citizen and Medicare has worked just fine for me now for over 5 years. What is not working so well, is the supplemental Medicare Advantage policy I changed to last year. The terminology makes it sound as if I have no deductible , but in reality I seem to be making that up, and then some, in co-pays for doctors and drugs. It is, of course, being administered by an insurance company. I am a very healthy senior but If i stay on this plan, I can't imagine how much it will cost me if I really get sick!!! Go Joe!
What Biden has to do is tell some better lies,,,
Bisen is a Joke...
Does Biden have 35 years experience or 1 year of experience thirty-five times over?
Old people aren't foolish. Most of them aren't all that healthy, either.
Everyone should realize that if Republicans repeal "Obamacare" and Romney/Ryan went ahead with the voucher system than about 90% of Medicare eligible folks would be totally BEREFT!
Try going out at age 70 to buy yourself some health insurance with your stinking voucher. So you've got high blood pressure, prostate cancer, osteoporosis or heart disease. Sorry, that's a pre-existing condition which WOULD have been covered under Obamacare, but no longer. We're sorry, but your medications won't be covered, either. And be happy because you didn't have to go before any death panel to arrive at this sorry state.
I think we have to live with a fact about the GOP. The party cannot ever tell people, even their supporters, at least the ones that aren't millionaires, what they will actually do if they have the chance. If they did, they would never elect another Republican to national office. They get away with it in some congressional districts – the ones gerrymandered to the point of idiocy. But, not with most Senate races and definitely not for President.
Consequently the GOP must lie, obfuscate and demonize the opponent to elect a President. We get lies about them wanting to preserve Medicare. They can't tell the truth – they want to eliminate it, they always have. They can't tell the truth about lowering taxes for the wealthy – it's not about creating jobs, it's about taking care of their big donors. They can't tell the truth about global warming – they know it's happening, they don't care because any action to save the planet would hurt profits. They can't tell the truth about spending – they are not against spending, they just want to spend on the military and their corporate sponsors. The can't tell the truth about the size of government – they don't want a small government, they want a government so big it can police every womb.
To elect a President, Republicans have to lie because no one in their right mind would buy what they are actually selling.
And to the comment that their plan would only affect those under 55 (changed,as a "concession"), well, I'm under 55 (just) and after paying into the plan for the past 35 years, I object, and my parents are not that selfish to not object its effect on their children and grandchildren.
It occurs to me to wonder how many congressional republicans over 65 are now enjoying Medicare plus their own job benefits? Yet, they want to do away with Medicare? Isn't that a bit of a conflict?
Senator Biden was with reagan, oneil to make all the deals. He proved that he's very knowledgeable about every single issue. He proved that he doesn't need lecture from anyone about domestic or foreign policy issues which is good.
I kissed my way up to VP at a health insurance company. Now I take over $500,000 of your health care dollars for NO VALUE ADDED to your health care. And that’s just me. Now think about how many other VPs, Directors, Managers, etc. are at my company alone. Now multiply that by thousands of others at hundreds of other health insurance companies. From 10 to 25% of your health care dollars go towards administration that adds NO VALUE to your health care. But my company’s PAC dollars will continue to fool you little people into thinking that a single payer system will be bad. Little people like you are so easy to fool. Little people also don’t realize that a single payer system is the ONLY system that would allow little people (as an entire country) to negotiate better health care prices. Little people don’t realize that the Medical Cartels already know that. And that is the reason why the Medical Cartels spend so much PAC money from the hospitals and doctors lobbying against a single payer system. Some little people say that a single payer system would cost you little people more. But if that were true, then wouldn’t the hospitals and doctors WANT that extra money? Yes they would. So why do the Medical Cartels lobby against a single payer system? It’s because the Medical Cartels know it would allow little people to negotiate better health care prices. And that’s what the Medical Cartels are afraid of. Period.
But us big wigs at insurance companies, hospitals, and pharmacy companies don’t ever need to worry about health care no matter what it costs. We get our health care paid for one way or another by you little people. And we get the little people that work at our companies to contribute to our PACs. And us big wigs say it’s to protect the little peoples’ jobs. But in reality it would be in the little peoples’ best interest to NOT contribute to the PAC. Again, little people are so easy to be fooled. I won’t ever have to worry about losing my job with so many little people being brain washed by the Medical Cartels’ PAC money. Not only that, the Medical Cartels’ PAC money is used to elect so many republicans that will never allow a single payer system. Republicans have always fought against any meaningful health care reform. But that’s what our Medical Cartels’ PACs pay them for. Politicians can be bought so easily.
Pretty soon the only people that will be able to afford health care is us big wigs. And that’s the way it should be. We don’t want you little people using up the resources when we need them. And once again, I thank you little people for capping my SS tax at the $106,800 level. Now I only pay 1.3% SS tax and you little people pay 6.2%. Also, thank you for extending my tax breaks. I’m using the extra money on my vacation houses.
The latest election news surprised even me! American early voters have given President Obama a 10% lead over Mitt Romney.
But what is more surprising to me is I cannot find any Wall street medias rent even talking about that! I think most Wall Street execs and the bankers are diehard anti-Obama.
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