By Global Public Square
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In the final presidential debate – the one on foreign policy – it was interesting to note the countries that got a mention. Iran was cited 47 times, of course, Israel 34 times, and China 32 times. It was also telling there was only one mention each of Europe and Africa, and none at all of India.
But I was struck by the amount of play one small country got, one that usually doesn't register on Washington's foreign policy radar. Landlocked Mali, with a population of about 15 million, and a GDP 1 percent that of Mexico's.
Why Mali? Here's the story briefly.
Radical Islamist groups have taken control of as much as two-thirds of Mali's territory this year, including the historic city of Timbuktu. Among these groups is "al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb," said to have been involved in last month's attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya.
Together, these radical outfits have tormented Mali. They've destroyed historic shrines, imposed a draconian version of Sharia law, and gone as far as stoning and beating people who come in their way.
More from CNN: Is Mali al Qaeda's new breeding ground?
Now, Mali was once considered one of the few stable democracies in Africa, and Mali's capital, Bamako, would normally have been able to counteract these insurgents. But the government tripped up this year. A coup took place in March. In the aftermath, soldiers deserted the army; there are reports many even sold their equipment for money. So Mali is now essentially defenseless. Last month, the interim president called on the U.N. Security Council to help. And so it seems increasingly likely there will be some kind of military intervention. Already, a regional group called ECOWAS – the Economic Community of West Africa States – is pooling together a small army.
France is leading the calls for action. It has submitted a proposal to the U.N. for Malian soldiers to be trained by the European Union. Those soldiers will then join a few thousand ECOWAS troops to retake northern Mali. Remember, Mali was a French colony until 1960 – and France continues to have trade interests in the region.
What about Washington's role? Haven't our leaders promised to go after al Qaeda wherever it takes us? Yes – but that doesn't always mean we need to have boots on the ground. Al Qaeda and its affiliated terror groups keep popping up in different parts of the world. When we suppress them in one region, they crop up elsewhere. It's a tremendous undertaking to keep following them. That's why it's heartening to see local and regional powers take up the fight. In Somalia, for example, Ethiopia and Kenya have been instrumental in battling the al Qaeda-linked Shabab group. Other countries, like Yemen, have welcomed surgical U.S. strikes – even drone strikes – without a presence of troops.
With or without the United States, there is a real prospect that the next war you will hear about – perhaps next year – will be fought not in Iran, but in the impoverished country of Mali. You heard it here first.
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The U.S. citizens aren't interested in anymore wars. Well most aren't anyway, sorry Mali you will have to handle this yourself.
US citizen's are only interested in war when war is brought to them! Airplanes crashing into building does a lot to ones perspective......you think that is the last time a terrorist group is ever going to launch an attack on US soil?
Do you still use that to justify war in Iraq.
shut up PoopStain! You don't know what you even mean.
Really,
Korea – Hundred of thousands dead
Vietnam – Millions dead
Iraq – Hundred of thousands dead
to name a few.
Then, there is support for dictators Mubarak, Shah of Iran, Fernando Marcus, to name a few that created SAVAK in Iran, Al-Qeida in Afganistan and on and on and on
You want to talk air planes crashing into buildings? Then go ask Mr Bush, why he had a hand in doing it.
Americans aren't interested in war. If you are, then leave America
Fareed, you forgot to mention the Tuaregs in the Malian conflict. After the collapse of the Gaddafi regime in Libya in 2011, a group made up of the returning Tuaregs who had served in the Libyan army, formed the National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad (MNLA). They don't side with Ghaly, the leader of the Malian Islamist group Ansar Dine, who took advantage of the internal Tuareg power struggle and seized all the region's major towns, including the historic city of Timbuktu. The West should prop up the Tuaregs to fight the Islamists.
Um...No. I think there was another terrorist attack on American soil just in September in Benghazi, Libya. Has everyone forgot about that just like the current administration is doing?
As long as you lock up George, Dick and Donald, that will be the last time that little terrorist group attacks your country.
wow Jonathen K you arent implying that Bush and perhaps even Cheney had a hand in 911 and not some illiterate tribals in caves in Afghanistan who were able to launch an attack on the HQ of the greatest military industrial complex in the world while NORAD was coincidentally standing down? You arent saying that are you? and if so I know you wouldnt dare say the collapse exactly matched a controlled demolition...
Blah blah blah terrorism blah blah blah
@SR_USA, what was in Benghazi was a consulate, not an embassy. Only embassies are considered to be sovereign territory. Jayzuz, I wish that you guys had shown at least 1/20th of this much outrage when Bush attacked the wrong country.
Hey SR_USA.. what about the 12 embassy attacks that went unresponded to under Bush? Funny how that's been forgotton.
Bush started the wrong war twice.. Iraq had nothing to do with us at all except that Israel wanted a regime change and Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11... where was Bin Laden and most of his cohorts found again?
SR
It is nice to see that the cabel and redio shows are reminding people that embassies are technically the soil of their host nation. And I was beginning to think that right wing talk radio was not educational.
You conspiracy theorist make me laugh, illiterate cave people? Bin Laden had a net worth of over 300 million dollars and used a lot of it to finance this attack . The masterminds behind the attack were all very intellegent and planned this attack to a T. We got caught with our pantd down..plain and simple, youhave no tangible evidence to prove Bush had any hand in such an attack. There have been NUMEROUS engineers who have come forward and debunked these theorist's claims...and to the guy who said there will be no more terrorist attacks if Bush, Chenney, and Rumsfeld are arrested...stop being so Naive, youforget the first WTC bombing happened under Clinton's watch in 93...Oh, I forgot....it was Bush the first time around, he just came up with a better plan the second time around.
I don't recall any Vietnamese GOADING us into war, never mind flying planes into buildings.. And here comes the rationalization..
Mike: "Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11... where was Bin Laden and most of his cohorts found again?"
I'm guessing you need a refresher in history, Mike. They were found in Afghanistan. Remember Tora Bora, where we let them slip away? They FLED to Pakistan, where we eventually caught up to them.
Nice selective memory. But I won't defend the Iraq War – it was at the wrong time, with the wrong strategy and for the wrong reasons. If you're down for punishing Pakistan for harboring bin Laden, we might even find common ground.
Killing 3000 American Citizens is a good enough reason for America to go to war! Unfortunately since there wasnt a real good target to attack we chose one we didn't really care to much for, In hindsight Iran would have been the better choice, not the right choice but a better choice.
Meowmix-i completely agree with you!!!
Greg, Do you know the difference between Iran and Al Qaeda? The two are anti thesis of each other. That has to be the most ridiculous and dumb suggestion ever.
Johnathen K,
You are an absolute idiot. How any educated person can still subscribe to an already debunked conspiracy theory is beyond belief. Do you also believe that fire can't melt steel like Rosie O?
Lagos "It's amazing how many nitwits still accuse Bush of pulling off 9/11, lying about intelligence to go to war in Iraq for the oil."
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Actually, the bit about Bush pulling off 9/11 is still a wild conspiracy theory, but the bit about Bush lying to go to war in Iraq is absolutely 100% confirmed.
Bush administration officials – most notably Colin Powell – have admitted to using false intelligence to persuade the world to go to war with Iraq.
@ Mike – the 12 embassy's? Really? Please name all the US embassy's attacked under Bush. Ridiculous.
@ Martin – is that a joke? Colin Powell admitted to using false intel to go to war in Iraq? If that is the case, then why did Saddams own inner circle believe he had WMD's? Why did the international community agree with the CIA's assessment? Why did Will Ferrall do all those SNL skits where he's playing saddam sitting in a bunker surrounded by nukes in the late 90's? Bush just made all this up? Your statement is pretty pathetic.
Im not dying for anyones Sky jockey! You religitards can kill each other over your imaginary friend.
That is correct, unfortunately, I don't believe that you will be able to have that option. If the Republicans win the election, there will be a war, somewhere. but there will be a war.
Do you have proof of that? Or do you just spout lies lefty? Lets all remember that the democrats voted to go to war in iraq....and of course any president would of gone into Afghanistan........
Personally, I wouldn't mind keeping my job for the next 10 years in another few combat zones.
Why was I seemingly the only person on Earth who never thought Saddam Hussein was any threat to the United States?
Maybe I am just smarter than the average bear. Apparently smarter than most of Congress.
@ JJ: There was only one president at the time, the Commander in Chief, the leader of the Executive Branch, the branch that is in charge of intelligence. Your argument blames the fool for falling for the lie, not blaming the man who actually told the lie.
This is no IF Republicans win the election – they have already won it, so to speak. Finally, Oblamer is going down.
JJ, not all Democrats voted for war in Iraq and those that did did so based of of the iron clad evidence Bush showed them. It turned out later that Bush was intentionally lying and fabricated all of his iron clad evidence. Those Democrats that voted for war in Iraq were really just guilty of believing their President was telling the truth, but he wasn't.
Look up the BBC story detailing the real reason Bush went to war with Iraq. OIL! He failed at that too.
Is there any OIL in Mali? No. Then no war by the Republicans. Is there OIL in Iran? Yes. Then the likelihood of war with them is much greater.
Actually, the Democrats have gotten us ito every war but 2 – the old saying "Democrats get us into recession, Republicans get us into war" isn't accurate: Democrats historically get us into both.
@JJ right............. accept you forget a major point that Republican supporters conveniently ignore. Democrats supported the President at the time. They did not oppose him on every single issue. Democrats believe unity is the best policy and wanted people around the world to know we were united as a country.. Republicans think Republican Party is of more importance than supporting a sitting President.
The Republicans thrive on war. Many are invested in war. Why else would Mitt Romney allocate 2 trillion extra to the millitary that is unasked for? Because he and his rich friends stand to make more money on a war, any war. Sad to think that all that money could be spend here at home healing instead of making more pain.
It's amazing how many nitwits still accuse Bush of pulling off 9/11, lying about intelligence to go to war in Iraq for the oil.
I'm afraid that I agree, if Romney wins, Romney will give Israel the green light to attack Iran with the support of the
U.S.
Yesterday marked the 50th. anniverary of the end of the Cuban Missile Crisis. If Romney was President back then
instead of JFK, he would have listened to his advisors, (unlike JFK), and invaded Cuban. The Russian Generals in
Cuba at that time, had permission from Moscow to use short range nuclear missiles to stop our invasion. This is fact!
Thus, most likely all of us writing these posts would have not been borned, because our parents would have been killed
in an all out nuclear exchange with the Soviets.
Keeth, they all had the same intelligence....saddam gassed his own people.......he supported and supplied terrorists, so wake up you limp wristed lefty...4 more years of democrats and America will finished...
I agree! As soon Mitt grabs the Presidency then there will be war somewhere in the world and America will be leading the war in alliance with as usual dogs from Europe!
It's going to be pretty difficult for either president to go to war with so few fresh troops to do it and China holding the financial choke chain. Proxy wars through nations like Israel are most likely.
You people realize that the US only gets 12.9% of it's oil from the Persian Gulf right?
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/11/150444802/where-does-america-get-oil-you-may-be-surprised
Lagos, You are the nitwit. Bush DID indeed lie about why we should go to war with Iraq. He amplified very slim to non-existent evidence. He ignored the CIA that was telling him that no proof existed for the WMD he said were there!! He said Iraq was building nukes... BS. He said they had chemical weapons... BS. Why was he so persistent??? Because Cheney and his Haliburton gangsters wanted exclusive contracts in the Iraq oil fields. You and your ilk a total fools for believing otherwise.
There will be a war in the next 4 years no matter who is president, Israel and Iran and the Arabs are gonna get it on sometime in the Next 4 years no matter who is in the white house
What the President said in why we attacked Iraaq:
That is why, on the unanimous recommendation of my national security team - including the vice president, the secretary of defense, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the secretary of state and the national security adviser - I have ordered a strong, sustained series of air strikes against Iraq.
Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction. If Saddam defies the world and we fail to respond, we will face a far greater threat in the future. Saddam will strike again at his neighbors. He will make war on his own people.
And mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them.
Oh by the way, before you lefties start screaming "He lied!" these were from Clinton
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html
@JJ Israel has said publicly that they will do "whatever it takes to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons". Mitt has said "America will stand with Israel 100% on anything that they decide to do".
So yes, if Mitt is elected, I'm thinking there is pretty conclusive evidence that there will be a war in Iran.
@ Jose Its one thing to go out and look for a fight like the GOP want and another to respond to one brought to you. Like t or not, with airplanes, submarines and drones our ocean buffers are not what they once were. I want to stop being the world's policeman like most Americans and I sure as H..l don't want to be the "collectors" for large corporations wanting to rake in more wealth but if some SOB's attack, let's strike back good and hard but leave it at that. In and out.
I agree with your comment Don, In and Out. This nation building is a little much. Our military member's needs a breather and our equipment needs refreshing. I know most are in favor of cutting our defense budget. I would say a re-evaluation in strategy and euipment needs is a bigger concern. When the enemy is picking you apart with roadside bombs and you have no defense for it, not acceptable. Thanks, Don for your comment, I just added some of my concerns and they weren't directed at you.
The U.S. defense industry is always interested in more wars.
Zakaria is probably correct. As to American involvement, it seems rather unlikely, because Mali is of little interest to American business interests. Tactical support might be made available if allies can persuade US leaders that the al Qaeda presence is worth attacking. America has its drones, after all.
The overwhelming majority of Americans are as ignorant of political geography as Sarah Palin, who, as a candidate for vice-president of the United States, thought Africa was a country. Should Mitt Romney become president, the US will be in a new war whenever US business thinks it would be to its advantage to have one. America, particularly when it is led by the neo-cons (They should simply be called "cons.") is always ready to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries, and to invade them if the US doesn't get its way. The American public ALWAYS supports the military adventures its leaders get into. They are so easily duped, as they were in the case of Iraq, like children at a backyard magic show. Then they enter the "We have to support our troops" phase. Finally, they want to get out of the entanglement–perhaps the conflict just isn't entertaining any more, and they want it cancelled, like a worn out TV sitcom.
Crazy religious fanatics, neo-conservative zealots, the military-industrial complex and other big business and their office-holding stooges, and a motley assortment of other miscreants will ensure that there will be wars aplenty. Lots of dead, burned bodies, maimed children without parents, torture, and bankrupted treasuries.
Drew, I have lived in U.S. since 1978 and prior to that in Europe for over two years. Your view is 100% correct, Americans are good people but very naive and uneducted when it comes to foriegn policy. They also think their military can do no wrongl all they have to do is look around the World, in Okinawa, in Afghanistan, in Abu Ghrib and in Guantanamo Bay. Have a good day.
Drew, do you have any proof of this? Or are you just sharing your delusional fairytales? Democrats have gotten us into plenty of wars, and if war is coming, we definitely dont want obama leading .......he would be better playing cards in chicago with j-Z and Beyonce and Jeremiah wright....
Drew, you are right on the money! Everything you said about American population's pschy, can't be explained better than that.
Mike, I believe you are one of those 51% white Americans who don't like (putting it mildly!) African-Americans (proof: recent poll). The reason I am able to tell this because the way you have associated President Obama with celebrities of all African-American origin!!! The President is also associated with many white Hollywood celebrities (for example, Bruce Springsteen) but you haven't mention their names!
Maili is one of the poorest countries on the planet. This is not something that they will handle themselves. The good news is the terrain is more desert like and leaves little place to hide....
Jose: Asking Mali to handle this itself is a serious mistake for two big reasons: first, Mali cannot do so. Mali has no ability to fight al Qaeda, considering they're winning this war.
Second (and probably more important from your US-centric viewpoint): WHEN al Qaeda conquers Mali, they will have a full country as a base of operations. They will have resources far beyond what they have now. If you thought they were gone... surprise! They will be back with a vengeance (and vengeance is a good word for it - they are certain to want us destroyed even more than before). So... if we let Mali deal with it themselves, we lose big time - not in the very short term, but for the next decade at least.
Thank you Josè for speaking for an entire nation, well most of them, and also for deciding that we will not help Mali. You have, with out a doubt, saved the U.S. billions of dollars and saved Obama the trouble of avoiding questions about it, with your swift decision making skills! If only you would have told that hurricane it was not allowed near our country a week ago.... if only...
Well since you obviously believe we should be involved. Where do we get the cash to do so? Borrow it? Print it? And are you even a member of our military? If not, you should enlist, since you believe we should be involved and all.
Jose, drones are far more efficient, and quite effective. We don't need to invade anything, just drone the AQ camps, and done with it.
If Romney is elected we will attack Iran within the first year. Mali isn't big enough for the MIC to get richer. A war with Iran will create billionaires, many billionaires.
I hope we do go to war with Iran, they have had it coming for a long time! If I could figure out how to make money by going to war I would. Anyone got any ideas how a broke S O B can earn some dash?
Sailor, I was thinking the same! Maybe invest in Haliburton, and other "contractor" companies. Or maybe in weapons manufacturers
Join the Navy. Hahahahahahahahaah
Fareed is just a $h!t starter. This pathetic idea is most definitely his own and not plagiarized.
If Twit Romney becomes the next US prez, the US will go to another war in 2013. And once this war starts, you can bet every GOP and teabag rightwinger will head for the hills to avoid serving in the military leaving the ethnic minorities and illegal aliens to do the figthing for America.
You obviously never served because you would know that there are far more Middle class white people fighting then anyone else. And if Romney gets in believe me the pressure will be to get rid of all the illegals. As far as Arab terrorist I wouldnt want to be a peace loving Muslim among them.
Americans should not be interested in any more wars that we go in solo, but adding troops into a U.N. led coalition is a different scenario. Why should we not help support the organization that we are part of? Should we take the lead? No, but France is already moving to take the lead. If we expect France to help our efforts in the future, then we should do the same.
Oh the US is pretending it's sitting this one out? Where did all the weaponry come from that al-Qaeda used to take over? Locally produced, I'm sure.
another stirring of the pot zakaryia
Been there, done that. Let's set the next one out!
Speak for yourself Jose, We can support without putting boots on the ground. And I for one an done with Arabs terrorist. Im so sick and tired of hearing about Muslims protesting and threatening etc etc the US. The BS has to end and if that means the expulsion of the good muslims so be it. We cant seem to trust them at all. The terrorist hide among them. It seems the Arab book on fighting says Bring your children as shields. Every protest I have seem I see women and children all around soldiers. So to hell with them equal treatment for all. Hurt a American kill your city. I only wish our president had the stones to throw the politics away and get dirty. The message everywhere should be "Oh you have hostages" "OK You have twenty four hours to return them unharmed or you dont have to worry about killing them cause we will" The missiles are in the air we will accept the collateral damage but your whole city will be a glass skateboard park and you all can go to paradise on our dime
You're a terrible person.
True, I'm not interested in war. Just total world domination. Resistance is futile.
This is exactly what we told Afghanistan in the 1980’s after the Russian’s left. What don’t we learn? You leave places like Afghanistan and Mali to the terrorist, and they thrive there.
Yes, we are not interested in new wars! Please relay this message to Israel! BiBi is itching to entice us to invade Iran!
Surprise BiBi, Obama won the election! Obama can't trust you one little bit! Every chance you get, BiBi, you humiliate the people of the USA by humiating our president! You use bull dozers, Hitler used tanks! Wake up, you fool!
What is plagiarism for $300? But seriously folk, its the Islam, innit.
I agree Jose. Stay out. Zakaria, the war monger, must be pushing this for his superiors.
I don't know why they give him space to write. We are not interested in wars and don't push it on us.
Well golly gee Mary! Please at least read the complete article before you dispute or disparage the writer.
Zakaria didn't say we'd be involved. In fact he specifically said we may not be. He merely pointed out that it is a likely region of conflict. It's called reality, you illiterate dolts.
Who TOLD zakaria to write this?
Nicely Put!!!
youre right and lets spell out who his superiors are just in case theres some who might not know, the CFR, Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg (Google is your friend , look em up!)
why is this invasion and the destruction tolerated? mali does not have resources to protect itself? if they are chased out – is the problem just being moved elsewhere? these are criminal actions against people and places – why are there no consequences?
As the article explained, Mali had a coup and a large portion of its army deserted. This left a large opening for the Tuareg. The Tuareg have been joined by a number of radical Islamists. The Tuareg will be difficult to negotiate with because the government of Mali has a habit of negotiating agreements with the Tuareg and then breaking them. Apparently in Mali, one of the best ways to get elected is to rail against the Tuareg and promise to get tough on them, promise to give no concessions and accuse the previous office holders of selling out to them. However, an outside group may be able to cajole the Mali government into keeping its agreements and convince the Tuareg that the agreements will be upheld. Without Tuareg support, the Islamists have nothing in Mali. I do not expect a positive outcome.
Note to all: this is an ethnic conflict with religious window dressing, not a religious one.
Mali, Syria, Thailand, Myanmar, Kashmir, Chechnya, Sudan, Iraq etc. Tell me, what is the common denominator?
What is the common denominator?
Youthful populations, large income gaps, and rising costs of food?
@Big Bob,
The lack of cheeseburgers you desperatley need.
Common denominator? Islam, Islam and Islam. Enough said.
Bob, not as smart as you. I say they all have an A in their name. Am I right?
Fareed,
Hear it here first, THIS IS A WAR WITH ISLAM.
Yup. muslims are involved in conflicts all over the world.....its time people opened their eyes......and guess what? None of these conflicts have anything to do with Israel...stop believing that lie......muslims LIE!!
That is half-truth! You are missing the other half! To me there is a war between neocons or cons (includes fundamentalist Christians in America and Jews in Israel) and extremist Islam. Very simple.......but it is quite a mantra these days to blame everything on Islam as a whole!
Yup. christians are involved in conflicts all over the world.....its time people opened their eyes......and guess what? None of these conflicts have anything to do with Israel...stop believing that lie......christians LIE!!
Christians are the best liars. Look how the Republicans depend on the Evangelicals. It is amazing how evil the evangelicals are. They don't care if a political figure is wishy-washy, or flip flop. Romney can say whatever he want and idiots still will vote for him. It is amazing. What the hell ever happen to common sense?
Vote Obama America! He gave me my free obamaphone so I can call all my homies! Now with all these gov't handouts, I dont eva have to worry about working again! Obama is the shizzle! I would vote for him but I'm a convicted felon. So it's up to you America to keep these free handouts rolling in! Now I'm off to watch Judge Joe Brown on my big screen. HOLLA!
Obama good! Him let me and me 8 kids stay in country free and no deport!
And you are an id-c m-n.
Flawed logic Jose. Deportations are at an all time high – way more than when Bush was in office. Of course, being from Texas, W understood the economic value illegal immigrants have. Did you know that they bring in kids from Mexico every day to inflate the class size in schools along the border, so they can get more federal dollars? Do a little research instead of spouting your crap. But why argue with you with facts when making stuff up works so much better for folks like you.
Frankly, I am extremely glad that you can't vote.
Not only are deportations at an all time high, but the Obama administration is targeting criminals rather than twelve year olds. If the GOP wins, we are going to need some sort of cannon fodder and you know it isn't going to be white Tea Baggers.
If you ar illegal you belongs elsewhere.
Even better when bad things happen like Fast and Furious and Bengazi, he covers it up so I do not have to be bothered or worried.
How much are the Republicans paying you to pretend. Joan Walsh has the perfect book to discribe some people. Why are you Republicans so demented? I believe it's an illness. You all have it. You lie, look the other way, steal, and send young people into harms way. If another war come, let the pundits children and grand children fight (Wolfe's, Anderson Cooper, Jessica Yellen, and those other closet Obama haters. You people are sick. Good bye CNN. I can no longer watch your so-called news station. If I want fiction, I'll just watch Fox.
Well Bennie, I'm not a Republican, but I still don't want Obama in the White House come January. It has nothing to do with skin color, or anything except his horrible policies. He's frozen businesses from hiring with his massive red tape. He's made healthcare a fustercluck, basically doubling my cost for insurance, while getting less benefits. His foreign policy is a joke, he supports the Muslim Brotherhood, which is basically a terrorist organization. And to top it all off, he hasn't fulfilled any of his campaign promises.
If there is no oil or no Jews live there America is not interested.
Whats your point Keith? You are one of those loser self hating Americans that think everytime America enters a conflict to save lives or make things better you think its because we want to steal their oil...do me a favor, go to Syria please...
America goes to war to save lives or to make things better? You really drank the Kool-Aid, didn't you? Pathetic tool.
Sure is! Its the libby fasion to blame and hate America. It feels good to them. Makes them feel "above" it all.
How do you storm victims feel about that? Go ahead and vote against your own interests like good little GOP minions.
This is bogus! Made up junk that you and all the Obozo lovers feed off. Romney is a real American and will be our next President! Thank GOD! Romney 2012!
You need to get informed. He did say that about FEMA. Go back and look at the transcripts during the primary season.
Ignorance, denial or outright lies are the trade marks of right wingers.
There is video of that statement coming out of Mitt the Twit's own mouth.
Wrong! I'm sorry your ship is sinking and you are in panic mode now! Obama Bin Laden the Muslim/Kenyan President is out the door! ROMNEY 2012!
Put your head back in your foxhole, where you can live unfettered by facts. How is the view from Bullsh!t Mountain?
Your winds of change smell like a Fart
Why can't Obama show his papers? $5 million to a charity of his choice would change that charity forever, yet he can't seem to do it. Suspect. Get this guy out. I agree with Winds, Romney is a true American that will create jobs and protect our country. Romney has my vote 10000%.
@floyd424 – you talk about facts that YOU don't even know how to comprehend. Do you have any idea how much waste there is in FEMA? Romney wants each state to take care of its own emergency funds. FEMA's outpouring of cash has more than tripled in a couple of years. How do you think taxpayers can keep on funding the waste? People like you, that probably don't pay taxes to begin with, troll these sites and spew garbage they know absolutely nothing about.
@pandalover – And that's going to eliminate waste HOW? Hahahahahahahahahaha
Thank goodness that you are out there as America's watch dog. Make up a headline and run with it. I am sure that many like minded folks with buy your sales pitch. The problem is you are preaching to the brainwashed. Everyone else knows you are spewing lies.
Google it dolt. Hahahahahahahaaha
Laugh all you want you ignorant fool. Romney is right for wanting to get rid of FEMA, and give the power to the states. Each state is different, in case you weren't aware, so each state knows what it needs best. Remember Katrina, genius? Five days to get water to the stadium, yeah that's real efficient.
All you know how to do is laugh and bury your head in the sand. You're completely clueless, and your posts make that quite evident. So keep laughing while Obama's packing come January.
Do you need a nanny? Ever heard of insurance?
Our government MUST continue to start wars to help cover up the injection of Trillions of dollars into our economy to sustain the ridiculous inflation levels.
Covering it up? They made a big announcement about it.
@ Jose and Dave, this is not Zakaria's war neither can America be indifferent with the development in Mali. Last year's overthrow of Ghaddafi has led to massive looting of Libya's armory (Libya is near to Mali), looted armors now fuelling insurgency in Mali and Nigeria.
America & the UN had to do something, and fast while they are at it.
No, we don't have to do anything and it is not our war.
Exactly.
You're completely right Mary, who cares if al Qaeda builds up their resources, by taking over a country, via a coup? It's not our concern. LOL. I kept a straight face as long as I could. You're a bonehead, seriously. You can stick your head in the sand and believe it isn't our problem all you want, but you'd still be just as wrong. Lucky for America, you're in no position to make policy, or strategic decisions. Same with Jose.
Fareed... People didn't hear about Mali from you first... They heard it first from Mitt Romney during that last debate you barely mentioned! Stop taking the credit for publicizing Mali and bringing it up to people's concern. It was Romney! Not you! Nice try, though. And FEMA person: You're a fool. This is a story about Mali, not Sandy. Go troll on a story relevant to what you're bantering about.
Fareed is famous for his plagiarizing and taking credit for what others have already said. Why CNN keeps this hack is beyond me.
Thank you! Of course Zakaria would never give any credit to Romney.
Can't have enuff wars... glad to see we're planning ahead!
Zakaria is at it again – throwing 1000 predictions accross the board and see which one sticks. Fortunetelling sure beat plagiarism.
"White House records show dozens of radical Islamists have made hundreds of visits to the White House since 2009. ... Many visits have taken place this year. The potential security breaches were revealed in a new report by the Washington-based Investigative Project on Terrorism following a year-long probe. ... The meetings have coincided with homeland security policy changes the White House guests and their front groups have clamored for, including purging language such as 'radical Islam' and 'war on terror' from the government's official lexicon. The administration also recently censored Islamic references in thousands of pages of counterterrorism training materials used by the FBI, Homeland Security and Pentagon, while firing many of the trainers who wrote or used the materials. Former FBI special agent John Guandolo, who after 9/11 investigated Islamic terror groups from the bureau's Washington field office, told IBD that the same suspect Islamist figures who have penetrated the White House have also successfully lobbied to purge the names of hundreds of high-risk Islamists tied to the Muslim Brotherhood from the U.S. no-fly list." –Investors Business Daily's Paul Sperry
You waste your time telling the truth to the relativists on this site. They simply don't want to hear it. This is the product of 60 years of higher academia. Now, if you want to bash straight white males, you're in like Flynn!
Big Bob, your b.o. smells like FART. Stop eating all those burgers.
If you want to privatize Social Security and Medicare, lower taxes for the rich, outlaw abortion, and start a new war with Iran, vote Republican.
Don't forget privatize FEMA so that the rich goons can demand outright price at the time of emergency.
Do you really believe this? Is your knowledge of how our political system works that weak? Do you actually believe the President has these powers? Is this why you think Pres Obama and Pres Bush are responsible for everything that has happened for the last 12 years and that everything bad that has happened is solely the responsibility of one party.
Yes, DA, these people really believe that one man controls every aspect of our country with a simple word of command. I assume this is an example of our educational system failing once again. We learn the "checks and balances" system in a basic social studies class in middle school and then again in economics in high school. People dont do their research, can you not tell by the drivel that is spued on these comment boards? Sadly, majority of Americans are either ignorant, closed-minded, uneducated, or just educated fools. I still have hope for our nation and its people, but its a dam* shame whats going on out there. I cannot wait til this election is over so we can have at least 2 1/2 years of not hearing everyone showing their stupidity and pretending to be political experts.
Obama has a degree in international relations from Columbia and has been commander in chief for four years.
Romney fled to France to avoid the Vietnam war.
Who has more foreign policy experience?
Oh yeah, and Obama has so much war experience, he has fought in so many wars right? Where was he during the Gulf War?
Obama has zero experience with accounting, economics, foreign policy, war etc....all he has is community organizing skills, the guy voted present his entire carreer......good thing most people see what a failure obama has been.....he was wrapped up to look good but failed, has no record to run on and is not a true American patriot......look at the people he associated with in his past, all racist people that hate America......look it up, Jeremiah wright, Ayers,......and everyone can see plainly he is in cahoots with muslims...
Remind everyone again, what war did Obama serve in again??
I love these Obama supporters. Spewing all this 'yes we can' drivel. Sure he's smarter than Romney, but that's like saying I'm larger than an ant. Big deal! he's still the biggest war president, with his surge in Afghanistan, and his expansion in the criminal use of drones. As for Iraq, he only brought the troops 'cause iraq wouldn't give them immunity for a new SOFA. it's the empire that's the problem. all our presidents suck in this area. They think we own the world (that is, us and Israel)!! And I love these 'bright' commentators (like Fareed) who work from the assumption that we're the good guys, no that we caused more mayhem in the world over the last 50 years than the Soviet Union, Cuba and Iran combined!!
Irwin has a point. If people only knew.... Iran is a product of our own design. But hay, we got BP out of it right.
With or without the United States, there is a real prospect that the next war you will hear about – perhaps next year – will be fought not in Iran, but in the impoverished country of Mali
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How 'bout we sit this one out? We have a large enough mess within our own borders to clean up, and can use the money the government borrows here instead.
Yes, that is a good idea. Stop acting like "World Police" and take care of USA first.
West Africa is best left to the West Africans. The reason we have not heard a lot about Mali is because we have little ability to affect the outcome. Our best means of intervention is economic (think embargo) but with Mali's economy there is really no way to impact the situation. Our military could do little more than kill a lot of people and while some of those people might be proper targets, many would not be netting the U.S. even more enemies.
The lion's share of Africa's problems can be traced back to Western intervention. Lets not continue the long history of problem causing....
Zakaria – where did you plagarize this from – the Whitehouse?
Mali must have resources they want.
I think the "whack-a-mole"strategy of dealing with our terrorist enemies is a pretty good idea. We whack them in one place, then wait for them move and regroup somewhere else, then we whack them again. This keeps them off balance, and costs relatively little since most of the whacking can be done with drones, planes, Tomahawks and special ops.
Sid
I think we didn't here this from Fareed Zakaria first as he aserts in the conclusion to this editorial. Rather, this article may have been written because we heard about Mali first from Mitt Romney in the Presidential debate.
How is Fareed Zakaria still employed by CNN and Time?
Plagiarism is a serious journalistic crime. I don't care how much of an expert you are in international relations; you are a disgrace to this profession.
He was cleared of the charge and re-instated. I get the feeling that doesn't matter to you.
The question you are raising is absured. There must be something right about this guy for CNN and Times to reinstate him. He is a brilliant Journalist. Accusing someone without any basis is as wrong as plagiarism.
After World War I, which was pretty devastating, the US was quite war-weary. Isolationism became fashionable, with people like Joseph Kennedy, Sr. and Charles Lindbergh leading the parade of people who wanted the US to withdraw from the world. Turns out, it was a monumental mistake. While I am not anxious for this country to put boots on the ground anywhere, I worry that we could be planting the seeds for another, even bigger war by not taking early action on some of these threats.
Stop talking sense to the children, JohnR. Nobody ever taught them history. Climate change and grievance theory are their subjects of choice. That's why they can't find real jobs after they graduate!
Well maybe you "adults", and I use the term lightly, could explain to everyone where you are going to get all this cash to fund these endless wars that you love so much. Borrow it from the Chinese? Print more money? Us "children" would love to know.
Yes, and they are the ones who are destined to repeat the history they did not learn from, so I guess the World goes around one more time and the next generation gets to take the next ride.
Muslims again huh?
Did anyone actually read the article? He said most likely the U.S. won't get involved, that regional powers are taking over. He's only mentioning for people who are interested in the rest of the world, instead of people who can't get out of their own behind long enough to care about the rest of the world. As a political science major war will always interest me, it brings major change rapidly, we tend to study it. So why don't you 70 trolls of the internet read before you write? I really thought old people didn't troll websites :/
It is time that moderate Muslims begin to stand against the outrage against Islam that is al Qaeda.
Are we the only nation in the whole wide world that can defend not only ourselves but have to defend everyone else at the same time ? What about the roles of everybody else,including citizens of affected countries ? Is our real and true goal only to make money off weapons sales ?
Another lightweight and irrelevant article from Mr. Zakaria. One would think that a major news outlet could do better than printing the inane thoughts of a plagiarist.
Yea Right?
Another fine product of the American School System. Couldn't come up with two consecutive sentences?
islam is a poopstain of the world, just like kim jong il
"You heard it here first."
Yeah, but who actually wrote it?
Of course the genocidal islami's will pop up in broken countries. Outside of a genocidal type solution, which the west is capable of, the only solution is to keep these things out of the US.
We should attack them every 9-11 and spray as much pig fat on their land as we can.
good idea. Some humor and law enforceent rolled into one.
Countless studies have shown that there is a higher incidence of incest and child molestation among southern, white evangelical families than in any other group that participated in the study. Experts agree that this type of deviant behavior is generally a result of living in close quarters, such as trailer parks. Anyone requiring further proof only has to take a casual drive south of the Mason-Dixon line where you will encounter toothless inbreds wherever you travel. In fact, historians have long theorized that the reason the south lost the Civil War is because of the high number of mentally challenged soldiers in the army, a direct result of generations of inbreeding.
you make even Palin look stupid.
Oh boy, more of this yankee revisionist history. What a crock of S@#T!!! It would seem that common sense really isn't as common as it used to be!!!
OBAMANOS!!!
Still looking for "root causes" Deep Blue? I'll give you another hint: it's the same bunch, several generations mind you, who live on a very generous dole in many Europe countries and provide almost nothing in return except more and more unwanted babies. You know, the women wear tents, the men are usually angry? Do you need anything else?
whereas the mormons live in mansions and wear more fashionable clothes, sometimes.
And produce and thrive and don't shove their beliefs down one's throat...
It is The Economy, Mr. President. Your Economy, Mr. President. You built that.
Not true. Obama inherited some economic issues from Bush, Bush inherited some from Clinton, etc. If you really think everything is localized to a single political cycle you are extremely short sighted. Or do you actually believe that we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the housing crisis started and the markets collapsed all on January 20th, 2009?
If a CEO takes over a company that isn’t doing to well, and he has 4 years to fix it and even promises to fix it (remember obamas promise that if he did not cut the deficit in half he would no be re-elected) and things get worse over those 5 years, on top of several scandals, bankrupt companies etc, then its time for a new CEO.....vote Romney, he and Ryan will fix this economy and bring jobs to Americans, obama hasn’t even passed a budget in 4 years, even the democrats voted it down.....come on America, lets get a fresh start...the last four years have been dismal.
If Obama is reelected, look at what a dismal failure he will be inheriting. Oh yeah, he built that, never mind.
A vote for Mitt is a vote for Bush. Or maybe he did not wreck your home value and your retirement. Wanna try that again? How stoopid can you get?
As Obama campaigned, Americans died!!! Those ARE the facts. It would seem our president is the next JC, not Jesus Christ, as many presumed, but a black Jimmy Carter!!! Look at even the lety polls, this guy IS TOAST!!! Finally, the adults will once again be in charge after the disaster of Bush & Obama!!!
OBAMANOS!!!
There are basically two ways for a country to act: You can keep your opinions to yourself, avoid interfering with others and basically let things happen or you can stand up for what you believe in (right or wrong) and support those less fortunate than you. If you select the second option then war is inevitable because you are going to make enemies. You are a fool if you think you can stand up and say "We are right and you are wrong. We support country A and are against country B. Our way of government is right and yours wrong" and expect everybody else to be happy with that.
The news of radical islamist takeover in Mali has been in the news for months. Anyone with any knowledge in world affairs wouldve known that Al Qaeda has been moving operations there, so what does "you heard it hear first" mean. Not everything Zakaria says is original or novel. Seriously, if this article is the first time you've heard the news about the trouble brewing in Mali, then obviously CNN shouldn't be your only source of news and insight into global issues.
This guy is a FAreak!!! More jr. high reporting by cnn...No wonder Fox rules this arena!!!
OBAMANOS!!!
the fantasy arena?
Fact : That shape of the country that is suppose to be Iran is actually Iraq.
Fareed is absolutely right because if you look at America's history, take for example tiny Granada, you'd understand why.
if obama is re-elected we can all get more food stamps...
@Khan...it was Ferdinand Marcos not Fernando ie....LLamas
Heard it here first????????????? Ummm actually no, Romney mentioned it in the debates....
Hooray for small African nations!
Romney looks Presidential, obama looks like a kid from the middle east...
Romney looks like a used car salesman and he has the lack of facts to prove it.
obama has failed the past four years, even by his own standards, and has ZERO plan in place for the next four....oh sorry, he did promise putin he will remove our missile defense shield.....sorry everyone, he does have a plan.....
Free dog crate with each car purchased! LOL
Very strange that when iran and syria butcher their own people, obama says nothing, yet helps remove mubarak and ghaddafi from power.....strange.......
So, realistically, what can we do? We should look to Islamist powers to resolve this and deal with their internal whackos. If Islam is truly a religion of peace they will try to clean up their mess. But then you can't get Sunnis and Shiites to get along can you?
Stupid religions...
Islam is not a religion. It is a cult that follows a false prophet who, like Romney, was a businessman and also a poligimyist. The various sects of Islam have eternally fought not only each other but any other culture in the world. They have never been a peaceful culture in any way. Like Romney they believe in the subjugation of women and children. They train children to wage wars and set up women with explosives to target their socalled enemies. Name one benefit of Islam in the world. I can think of none.
Well they pioneered hospitals. They also maintained many of the ancient Greek philosophic works that we like to base our government off of. Blaming an entire religion for the actions of modern extremists is as ignorant as judging all of Christianity by evangelicals.
You're an ignorant redneck.
Everytime I think of Sarah Palin, I think of trailer trash. Every time I think of trailer trash, I think of teabaggers. Everytime I think of teabaggers, I think of nascar. Everytime I think of nascar, I think of assault weapons. Everytime I think of assault weapons, I think of Sarah Palin. Everytime I think of Sarah Palin, I think of trailer trash. Everytime I think of trailer trash, I think of teabaggers. Everytime .....
@palintwit – your name absolutely suits you – your are a twit that would be lucky to have even part of the brains Ms. Palin has. Id!iot.
Why didn't she use them? Hahahahahahahahaha
iran is supplying sudan with a ship full of weapons as we speak....
Romney looks Presidential, obama looks like a kid from the middle east...
Looks are deceiving – never judge a book, just read it! You'll be a little dissapointed, though because Romney's contains blank pages. Perhaps you enjoy "lite" reading. LOL
Romney sells snake-oil. Yeah. Mr "I'll snap my fingers and we'll have 10 million new jobs" Or Mr. "I will help the middle class, never mind that as a great businessman, I shipped our jobs out so I could make more money so I could pay 14%". Or Mr. "I care about all americans inclusing the 47% I said I did not care about". This guy should be embarrassed to show his face in public!
bonjour - mais je ne veux pas de merde!
the european countries trade with african countries adjacent to them acros the med sea. tunisia and algeria have ties with france but didn't know about mali. hmmm.. think we can deport the obamas, axelrod, biden and clintons to mali before the french come in and arm the malis? 
take a break from the derivatives for a while - stay cool 
au revoir, lance
It doesn't matter who is President... One side will always say that the other is horrible and how much better off America would be following theirs. Or does this just completely fall on deaf ears?
Do you know why Islamic Extremists target America? Because we don't back down. 1% of us have lived it while the rest complain and banter on about their candidate, political siding, or what the government does wrong.
I highly doubt many of you have even taken the time to understand the differences in Islam as there are in Christianity. Every religion has extremists no matter what you believe or you don't.
Now here comes all the hate on Presidential candidates, religion, military, and whatever else makes it way....
funny how republicans dislike people that tell the truth like Zakaria...I find they actually dislike all foreigners and western nations if it goes against their political beliefs. Not beeng from the US it sure is noticeable. Ever meet a staunch republican in Europe or Mexico ? I think most of them dont leave the borders as they dont believe there is anything worthwhile outside of their walls
yeah Fareed tells it like it is because he knows the truth being a privileged insider to CFR meetings
hes a great poster boy for the Globalist agenda, go beyond the left right paradigm, Romney and Obama ultimately serve the same agenda
Its in the GOP interest that another war is born somewhere around the globe as most republicans have major interest in the American military industry complexe to keep it profitable. A war is necessary only if our vital interest are at risk but not for the purpose to profit by it, which is not the case in many of the wars fought so far.
you mean like the war in iraq that the democrats voted FOR?
Yeah, lets not blame Bush for the Iraq war, coz that would be so far from the truth......................
I have not seen much the President cannot handle. I'm quite sure he has many things to discuss among foreign dignitaries. With all the hoopla around elections and him making the cover of the rolling stone I think getting back to business is his first concern. The U.S. has always struggled to maintain peace. I'm sure both candidates understand the importance of this. The world is headed for great things. Let's just pray we can all get on board.
Lets hope the USA leads the way. I can not see it any other way. We are the bastian of the free world and people around the should never forget that!
obama is too busy on the phone with J-Z and beyonce and going on the view to be president.....how pathetic....
Struggled to maintain peace? Surely you jest. The United States is the most murderous warring nation on the planet. With a military larger than the next ten nations combined we continue to seek answers at the point of a gun. After more than ten years of war our foolish leaders and pompous population still doesn't get it. WAR ISN'T THE ANSWER.
It is time to seek the help of divine providence. We cannot do it ourselves...we cannot bomb and kill enough... we cannot bribe and extort enough. It is time to seek God's help.
but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
I there oil in Mail?? If yes, let's invade, occupy, and pillage. If not, send the drones.
I was quite surprised that when mentioning Iran, you showed the silhouette of Iraq and not that of Iran. While I am sure you are fluent in the politics of the region, I was saddened that when it comes to geography that you interchanged Iraq with Iran. Perhaps, geography should be a mandatory course for high school students in the US and specially for those which are more republican.. Maybe then when a presidential candidate goes on a national debate, he could figure out that the closest route to the see for Iran is through Persian Gulf which is part of the country, versus east through Syria!
and maybe english should be mandatory for you and the democrats, you dont even know the difference between "see" and "sea" and "specially, and "especially"!!!! Your post has been discredited......typical lefty loser...
WAR IS GOOD BUSINESS. Time to sacrifice your life in the name of the nation so that defense contractors, bankers and politicans of all persuasion can profit by your spilled blood sweat and tears.
but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
Murder and death is the only answer Washington knows, but you cannot kill and capture your way out of this. Only God can end this madness. It's time for the nation to turn to Him.
and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
murder and death is all the muslims know.......
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Write and I especially love the part where the little girl gets caught in a tornado and ends up in a land with a bunch of munchkins and everyone is singing and they start walking down some road made of yellow bricks and gets joined with a scarecrow a lion and guy dressed in a tin suit. I didn't read all of it so don't tell me how it ends okay?
Wars! We don need no stinking wars! <-- said in a hispanic voice from the movie "The good the bad and the ugly".
Personally I like that same line, but from either Bogart's movie, "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre"; I don't recall it in "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly". It was also used in Mel Brook's "Blazing Saddle" and that was funny too.
The line was "Badges! We don't need no stinking badges!". I just thought it was a good fit for the topic.
Folley in Mali!
The motto of Mali is "One people, one goal, one faith."
The country is 90 per cent Muslim.
They can go eff themselves.
It is interesting that the country which goes after invasion of Mali is the same countary which had Mali as its Colony. The time for old colonization is over and superpowers are looking to find new ways to get control of these countries. They make these Islamist groups and then they fight them. US and Pakistan and Saudi made Mojahedin and Taliban and Al-Qaeda were all formed from Mojahedin. Almost all sueside bombers are Vahabbi which is an extreme branch of Islam and very different from Sonni or Shia although the categorize it under Sonni. Saudi official religion is also Vahabbi and big Sheikh and leaders of Vahabbi religions are all in Saudi Arabia. So, you should know where the extrme religion comes from and who is supporing it and nobody want to invade Saudi or do drone operation on it.
"Almost all sueside bombers"
Almost all suicide bombers wear suede shoes. It's the fashion rage.
I'm looking forward to the inevidable collape of the federal system in the USA; which will occur regardless of who gets elected. We have a system that has been growing the authority and power of the federal government over the past 60+ years, without any oversight or review. More recently we have seen a Congress that is unwilling and/or unable to find concensus on what the problems are in the US, much less trying to find a solution to them. We are driven by political hatred, were one party tries to blame the other for all the ills that have befallen this nation (doesn't matter which party since both participate in this shameful behavior). So its time to get your guns, ammunition, food & water stores and get ready for the impending doom that will lead to this nation failing, and remember, "keep your powder dry".
I believe Cheney was the warmonger and of course Halliburton who made millions on no bid contracts. Romney is in cahoots with the Cheney war mentality and yes the GOP supports a war machine. Wonder why none of the Romney family has ever served in our military. I suppose its because they sit around the house counting their money made from defense contractor investments.
Democrats have voted for those wars, Romney is not in cahoots nor has the mentality of Cheney, democrats have entered America in many wars....your uneducated rant will not be considered to the intelligent informed crowd....nice try lefty loser...
Marnie, are you like Mitt's wife/GF or something? If so, can you tell me what floor of his garage he's gonna park his car in this evening?
War is good business. If you haven't got any money to invest, please invest your children because there are more poor and middle-class people than rich people. And rich people are more important than the poor and middle-class because they are the Job Creators, while the poor and middle-classes just keep creating more of their own kind.
WAR! Huh! What is it good for?
Population control
Don't forget it makes for great movies, television and news. Oh yea and veterans day.
yeah Ted Turner loves population control, Google Ted Turner + Eugenics....
Absoutely Nothin'!
Keep voting for the NAZIs and republicans to keep the MIC going strong. Who needs health care when you can have war!!!
you are correct the Bush family are Nazis (quite literally) but both Obama and Romney are Globalists, bought and paid for by Goldman Sachs who is the biggest contributor to both campaigns.....you have any insight into this Fareed?
The weapons given to al Qaeda have been given to the radical Islam sects for centuries. It goes back to the Crusades, to slavery, to exploitation of those lands, to cultural and religious discrimination and most recently the injustice done to some Islam comunities when faced with Israel. Muslims did not harm the Jews. It was the Christians who did the bloody deed. But there had to be a scape goat. It is discribed clearly in the Old Testament...what a scape goat is!...Now the Western world decided to take a (pretended) equal perspective of the Muslims. But still they do not even pretend to understand the cultural basics of this people. The outcome that realy bother this western wing is the Muslim terorists. Just think for a minute or so to decide on who manured these groups? One should not leave a monster unleashed, if one does not have means to control it.
But Fareed, besides these trade wars, I believe the real war will be cyber next. I believe Gulf War prooved to Bush generation that physical wars and impressive barrels and old holiwood movies of bravery are outdated....and well may end up in a quick sand ending.
Cyber war is less distructive, less expensive and gives you measurements, feedbacks and upgrades on POPULARITY as well.
Blah blah blah and you still didn't say anything.
Say PJ how'bout changing your nickname to ...BLAH.... Everyone can spot you right out.
What an ignorant uneducated incoherent rant...you must be muslim...
What an ignorant statement. You must be a redneck.
You have your government controlled "preferred news" and I have my government controlled "preferred news" . Like I did not have any news on Turkish News channels but some speach of a Governing party member. BBC gives better news on what's going on in my country. So you may as well do as I do. Whatch the news from many channels to get a ballance of it.
yes indeed Fareed , being the Globalist mouthpiece that you are and well aware of "the Grand Chessboard" agenda,
you know ahead of time where all the new wars will be dont you? How much do you know about your boss Ted Turners support for Eugenics?
Google Ted Turner + Eugenics
Romney will take us to war with at least 4 nations.
Do you have any proof?? Man, you lefties are so desperate......
Traditional manual of governing says: 1) When In Emergency Raid... 2) In Democracy the first step is to blame the foregones 3) When you are a sure looser then blame the Black Hated Cowboy... THE BAD GUY, The problem in the Global World is finding a Bad Guy. That must have created a brand-new sector though.
you see Fareed Zakaria gets privileged insider info at CFR and Trilateral Commission meetings
dont you Fareed? Care to respond?
Just as soon as Willard Rmoney gets his mittens on the Presidency, there will be a war with Iran. I'm just waiting for a compliant tool in the White House before I order the attack.
tell your ayatollahs in iran to stop supporting terorism worldwide and you wont have to worry.....who is your idle, ? Mahmood ahmadinejad ?
Heard it here first? Sorry, Fareed, it was in WaPo yesterday. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/clinton-meets-algerian-leader-as-us-europe-african-nations-intensify-mali-intervention-plan/2012/10/29/34bf6774-21c6-11e2-92f8-7f9c4daf276a_story.html
Fareed heard it first at the CFR meeting, he must of been unaware that someone leaked the info before he could write his article
Still as a Muslim I believe this is not the time to comment on pending world matters while USA is suffering such a disaster. Do forgive my words. Yes the world goes around regardless, however we should have some compassion for the people on the Eastern coast of North America. Furthermore, it will not serve to comment while those people can not answer back.
Take care people, I'm sure you have the stamina to survive this disaster and come better out of it.
I do not know if Fareed is muslim or else. But if he is a person embodying any teaching of the God/Gods so far, he will not decent to do a)................................. b)...................................c)................................d) none of the above
By the way. Anyone who is Muslim has a concrete religious belief in helping people in need. This is a rule of Muslim belief. Whatever the dispute may go on afterwards. But it is not honorable to harress anyone who are suffering from smt other than the cause of the dispute between the parties. There is a difference between war in Islam and differences in other matters. Those of Islam who forget this can not be pardonned. Helping suffering people is a teaching of Islam. Regardless of the Land or Inclination of those people. Can you judge the good will of anyone in face of such a suffering. Stop your differences for a minute and let humanity.
thank you.
Heard it hear first...but someone else probably wrote it first....yay for plagarism!
If we go to Mali, it will be with drones and small clandestine specops teams. Let the Frenchies hande this one since it's their former colony anyways.
Guess who endorses obama? ayatollah khomeini, mahmoud ahmadinejad, hugo chavez, bashar assad, hassan nassrallah, .the muslim brotherhood...no joke, google it...
You forgot to mention Honey Boo Boo!
Ayyy! This is quite a fun. I thought only the ignorant Muslim hocas sold you land for a triplex in heavens. Look around you guys. Thatt is what a Muslim woman says.
Romney brought this up at the debate, so no fareed, we did not hear it here first....
Actually – to the writer of the CNN.com article – we heard it first when Mitt Romney brought it up as an international or foreign policy issue that the US and its citizens should be aware of. Makes me realize that only Mitt Romney is prepared to address such issues and share them with us. BO is full of malarky and nothing but.
While he may have been briefed on Maili, he is woefully unprepared to effectively handle that situation or any other foriegn policy.
That's why Mitt Romney mentioned Mali so much in the third presidential debate. He was obviously advised to just name that country repeatedly so it would create the illusion that he knows something about what's going on in foreign policy.
Speculate all you want man. Every President (and nominated candidate/challenger) is briefed on whats going on and what could be relevant – they decide what's relevant and Mitt mentioned it because he thinks it is and CNN is confirming it to some extent here without noting that BO never mentioned it at all, it was Mitt and its a relevant situation to Libya and current foreign issues. By comparison our current president is lacking on both home and away fronts. Wake up after four years please!
Ok, Brad. What exactly is Mitt's plan for Mali?
Sandy, what is obamas plan for the next four years? Nobody knows...he just spits out one liners and you weak minded lefties vote for him...if its anything like the last 4 years America is doomed...
If the leaders of these countries cannot protect their own country and it's citizens then maybe they should step down perhaps France would like to buy Mali back? WHY is it our men & women and our resources are always expected to defend all these countries when it's obvious the very governments of these countries sold out. We fought for freedom from England at one time by ourselves no one fought our battles we did it ourselves and so should they.
You're forgetting French naval support. It was instrumental at Yorktown. Also, the French helped Washington to train his army.
Nice try, buddy.
Interesting.!
Why Zachariah is taunting the administration? You CNN guys have branded Bush a war monger and now you are asking why US foreign policy is not looking into Mali. Live with it or ask Saudi or Iran or Pakistan or even China to bring peace in Mali. Why shoud US tax payers fund a war in Mali? You (including Europe & all Muslim nations) want US to do the dirty work so that the Liberals in the US and others around the world can accuse US of policing the world.
Mitt would get us into war if elected. His statements as to him giving more money to the Military are a clue. He has no Idea what Foreign Policy is and his plan to create jobs and Balance a budget does not work. Bush could not Balance a budget & stupid people elected him. Mitt would be a disaster and thankfully the early voters including mine lean strong in Obama's favor. With the Electoral vote I am glad Obama is most likely to win! OBAMA 2012!
Teabaggers like to get together with birthers and bugger each other.
They do not visit PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
I was most surprised by NO mention of the gang wars in Mexico. This is close to home and affects our citizens daily.
How is it affecting our citizens daily?
Go to any border town, and it will be obvious. Remember the man killed while jet skiing. The border patrol agents killed.
CNN posted an article about this yesterday
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/30/why-is-mexico-drug-war-being-ignored/
Is it really true that the US military is responsible for about half of USA's fuel consumption? Ya, something around that amount.
France can handle that little turd pit. Anyway it's funny to see the left react to Sharia law selectively. Stoning and beating is not a draconian version of sharia law, but normal sharia law.
"France is leading the calls for action."
Oh Brother......
Crusades
WWI
WWII
Vietnam
Libya
Mali?
Just an FYI – Mali is a part of Africa, therefore Africa was definitely mentioned. Secondly, Mali is a huge country, not a small country.
Mr. Zakaria,
I am writing this comment regarding your GPS last Sunday (10/28/12) when you painted a very rosy picture about how the US economy is about to have a robust rebound, and you were suspecting that Romney will take the whole credit if he is elected in the forthcoming election.
I remember just a few weeks back, on the same program you had painted a very gloomy picture for the US economy blaming the fiscal cliff and the irreversible job migration overseas.
I am confused and sense a very partisan approach on your behalf rather than neutral, unbiased and balanced journalism.
Holy cow, I just read a few of these responses...you are mostly idiots. Scary material here – how can you speculate that if this were the early 60's that Romney would have invaded Cuba? How can you say Bush flew planes into the WTC? How can one person in this forum presume to speak for all Americans?
What is wrong with you people?
Many of the people on this forum are baggers, birthers, conservatives, evangelicals and other varieties of trailer trash. And many of these come from families that practice inbreeding.
Thank God there are stable democrats like yourself here to set things straight.
Nobody is going to care about Mali.
Hey Qatar,too bad you don,t have any army to go invade Syria you dirty pigs,Assad ain,t going no where you filthy pigs.
Does MALI have oil or other valuable natural resources?
If so, you can bet the multinational corporations will be ready to put American boots on the ground ASAP!!
Interesting that Only Romney talked about Mali...Not the president.
“Mali has been taken over, the northern part of Mali, by al-Qaeda-type individuals,”
"With Mali now having North Mali taken over by al-Qaeda, with Syria having Assad continuing to kill, to murder his own people, this is a region in tumult."
How astute! So what's his PLAN? Cheap talk from a cheap suit!
Al Qeada – Like Whack-A-Mole.
It does not mater whether "WE" are interested, the brutal fact is violence is going to follow us no matter what. The path is a fine line and no one (honestly) has all the answer regardless of your political stripe.
Great article with balance (unlike alot of others). As my daddy once said, "seek first to understand before speaking"
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/10/30/take_cover?page=0,0
What?
W-ithout
A-ny
R-ebel.
Things will change for good.
This website is a breeding ground for plagiarists.
Just like prior to WW II, the Press Terrorism keeps us in the Constant State of Alarm, so the drums of war are beating. As Wyndham Lewis said in "CountYour Dead:They Are Alive "in 1937, so it is today.There is a war in the making.This time it is not about making the world safe for Communism ( Roosevelt's advisor living at the White House , Harry Hopkins, was a Stalin's agent) ; but about oil and mutual destruction-I wonder who the foreign agents are this time.
I find it very strange that we never mention South America or hardly any of the countries South of our border. We hear a bit about the drugs and murders in Mexico but there are many great countries who must feel like red headed step children.
Interesting article...but the "Hydra" that is al Qaeda runs on money. An insurgent group can't arm itself, can't continue to run operations, can't continue to terrorize a region and impose its own misguided heretical fascist brand of "law" without money! Where's the money coming from?!! Come on you knuckle head conspiracy theorists, who is supplying money to these 21st century's "Nazis"?
Oh wait, I can hear you saying it already..."the CIA" or maybe "the US military-industrial complex" or maybe "the ultra secret KAOS"! Who else might want to fund terror groups who's sole purpose is the destruction of western civilization!!?? It has to be one of these! It can't be some country in the middle east that has been ruled by a bunch of lunatic religious dictators since 1979!!
Yeah, I'm an American and I hope America gets a leader one of these days. I don't care if he's Republican or Democrat. But one that's in the mold of Theodore Roosevelt – "walk softly and carry a big stick"!! And use that stick when provoked!! Don't mess with the bull unless you're prepared to get gored!!
Don't mess with us and we won't mess with you and we'll let economics and human nature decide what culture wins!! You don't like it, tough!! Guess your culture should have gotten into the expansion of human knowledge and the resulting improvement in living conditions sooner!
But don't kick a sleeping giant or we'll crush you and those that support you for the good of the human race!! And we'll show you first hand what our military-industrial complex has been able to develop!!
Yes I'm an American, maybe an "ugly" American!! But I'm posting my thoughts on a laptop that was produced in a variety of other countries, on the website of an American company, over the internet of American concept and design but created from the hard honest work and wealth of many civilized peoples from around the world!! And I support all of these countries by my thoughts and actions and I am tolerant of all of them until they threaten the rest of us including and especially "Americans"!!! Then and only then do I become "ugly"!!!
It's a story that has been out for some time. Zakarias.... where did you plagarize it from?
I only have two questions. How do we pay for this next war? How much oil does Mali have?
There are a lot of comments predicting exactly what Romney would do if he becomes President with regards to foreign affairs – Most are from Democrats and most assume he will start a war somewhere (most likely where the U.S. has financial interests, i.e. oil). But to be honest, after listening to countless Romney speeches, debates, interviews, etc., from when he was running for Senator in 94 to when he was Governor to the Republican primaries to his Presidential campaign, I honestly don't know what he would do. He may call an immediate airstrike on Iran, invade Mali, send troops into Syria or have a drone shoot down Santa's sleigh in December. On the other hand, he may go on a double date with Ahmadinejad, send puppies to Mali, invest in Syrian real estate (they say you should buy low), or dress up as Santa and hand out presents to orphaned Chinese kids. I'm a registered Democrat and I actually think there is a really smart guy somewhere in Romney's head – someone way more intelligent than Bush, someone who is enough of a centrist that I would vote for him. The problem is, there are three or four other guys in Romney's head who scare the Bejesus out of me – and I just don't know which one will have his finger on the trigger if he is elected.
"Remember, Mali was a French colony until 1960 – and France continues to have trade interests in the region."
Before it was Vietnam it was FRENCH indo china.
Maybe it is time that the Froggies cleaned up their own mess.
Obama wins again. You people and Romney are funny. I'd get behind and follow a guy so crooked that he can't see straight to if I were brainless or brainwashed. Republicans have shifted to far to neo to hold the majority. They are going away one group of voters at a time. The idea of a small efficient government was never their intention. It was always just talk to lure the simple, It is what this country needs. It is what was intended from its very inception. I think maybe that the government could really be a catalyst to fair and equal distribution of not only wealth, but a key player in the ressurection of new and viable private industrie model based on global market strategies. And they can do their people a service by basing its core holdings in the people whose money they used to start it. Gee its free market,independantly managed, and the people in general are becoming weathier. Is it a repub, Is it a dem, or is it neither of those two. Can't say they are worthy
Mali may or may not be the next locus for war. But there's something wrong with predictions of violence, bloodshed, genocide, etc., ending with a declaration of "victory" in "breaking the news" before all other news sources. You all (pundits, experts, et al) spend all your time competing with one another regardless of whether the "story" is newsworthy or not. Can't you just offer opinion without making sure that we all remember that YOU...Zakaria...were the first among all others to make the correct prediction???????????????????????????????????????????
Sary
Yes, it does mean boots on the ground. Drones are illegal, should be discontinued, and do nothing but kill innocent people. It's basically like lobbing bombs at random into a populated capital of another country. What do you think will come of it? That you'll kill a few select people without hitting anybody else in the house that was just blown up, and people who'd never known where the US was on a map before their family members were killed will just go back to farming? They'll become terrorists. If someone killed my father, my son, because he was a driver or translator for a terrorist so he could feed his family, I would find out who was responsible and strap on a few bombs.
Some people live more debris than a flood
However that is still Human Nture.
Everything aside...As a Muslim woman of Turkish nationality I say USA has a president who knows his priorities.
no one cares what a muslim women thinks of the American president, most muslims do like obama because they know they can do what they want and spread terrorism and he is weak on it.......go strap a suicide belt on and kill some kids like you muslims are good at...
Thank you, I still cherish your candy rapped dynamites. However the winds did not blow that way.
They should activate the draft and send all the State Politician’s and government employees so that they can understand what a “Veteran” actually is.
Did anyone else notice that the graphic in the beginning when he said Iran was mentioned 32 times was actually Iraq?
I do not wish to comment of/ or about other kind of creatures.
So being a Muslim himself, Mr. Zakaria, can tell us what is it about Muslims and Islamists that wherever they rule, there is intolerance and terror towards non-believers and apostates?
You are a poster child for irony.
Sorry to say that USA has a kind of ptsd situation right now. It is better to treat it right away.
If Obama is re-elected we can expect him to further reject our allies (Israel, and no missile shield for Poland) and further buttt kisery with Russia and the Muslim world. Very sad indeed...
C'mon, man. That's just dumb, what you're saying. Obama does no such thing. The only thing he is, is far more judicious, and much less belligerent, than Bush's foreign policy crowd was, and rightfully so. You on the right seem to think America has to "throw its weight around" the world, trying to convince all other nations how "tough" we are. America The Bully. That's nonsense, and has gotten us into serious trouble time and time again over our history. Obama is pursuing a much wiser course, and he's not so insecure about America's standing in the world that he feels compelled to make little shows and statements about how "tough" we are. Foreign policy based on nothing more than trying to be "tough" is no foreign policy at all.
America's only obligation is to do what we must to defend ourselves, our country, and our citizens overseas from these maniacs. No way should we be involved in the internal affairs of countries where they're hanging out, trying to influence how much power they have in those societies. It's up to THOSE citizens to solve their own problems with al Queda – it's not up to Americans.
Also, for "Siman" in the thread above, try making factual statements that aren't grossly inaccurate. Muslims don't terrorize every society in which they have power and control of the govt. There is a radical, extremist movement in the Muslim world, sure. But it's not accurate to say they all practice intolerance and terror toward non-believers. And, America has its own religious extremists who are happy to commit violence in pursuit of their goals. Don't point the finger at Islam unless our own society and culture are free of exactly the sort of intolerance and, yes, terror, that you describe.
No more war! Obama still has our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. He wanted them to go into Syria and help the radical Muslims overtake their President Al-Assad. And now more Muslims want us to help make Mali more radical? No way!
Pravda, man, you're KILLIN' us here. Obama is still trying to EXTRICATE America from the wars your boys Bush, Cheney and their crowd got us into! (By the way, I'm convinced Romney would do the same if elected. When he talks to conservatives, he sounds like he's just ITCHING to get American troops committed someplace new.) You have way too short of a memory.
Pravda (Truth in Russian) complains about war.
Easy. Fine argument.
Pacifism (or non-involvement if you prefer) is just another foreign policy. It has advantages and disadvantages, like any other.
There is a clear advantage in that American soldiers are not at risk (at least now).
But the disadvantage is that despots rule uninterrupted. For example,had not Bush invaded Iraq, Qusay or Uday Hussein would now be in power in Iraq. That's hardly a good result is it?
Another disadvantage is that bodies get piled high, like in Syria.
Look, I'm NOT advocating we get involved in Syria or anywhere else. It's not ME on the line. Our treasured soldiers and their families pay the price.
We have a professional military, the best in the history of the World. Any president and Congress can look at these issues and decide their application or non-application.
Put pacifism is no panacea. WWII probably could have been prevented had we acted earlier.
sanjosemike
To read more about Africa and China click on my user name.
Now, did Zakaria really write this one?
If you want to enjoy the fun we had with President Bush at Iraq,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Vote Mitt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy hours are coming,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
1775, King is back !!!!!
Were you there?
khan in chandler said:
"Really,
Korea – Hundred of thousands dead
Vietnam – Millions dead
Iraq – Hundred of thousands dead
to name a few.
Then, there is support for dictators Mubarak, Shah of Iran, Fernando Marcus, to name a few that created SAVAK in Iran, Al-Qeida in Afganistan and on and on and on
Guess Khan is just your average left winger, making up stuff to try to convince you to accept HIS point of view.
The facts are:
Casualties by conflict:
World War II 1941–1945 405,399
World War I 1917–1918 116,516
Vietnam War 1955–1975 58,209
Korean War 1950–1953 36,516
Global War On Terror 6280 and that includes Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Chad, Lebanon, and Libya.
Dude ,,,,it's not How many guys died in the war,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it's Are we getting stronger ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
He might be using an Arab point of view
Khan is counting human life, not just American lives. Maybe non-American life doesn't count as casualty for you.
have a good night !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buy a chinese company,,,,,,,,,,,,do business with Africa,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then blame china,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
That's what we should do,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Seriously think about your future,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if you can not be a boss at America,,,,,,,,,,,,,try to be a boss at China,,,,,,,,,,
Occupy China ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it's better than just blaming China and can not change it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Go to Youtube,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,see how guys made their fortune in that red country without law,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
as long as it is cared for.
Think BIG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mitt has no great heart ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pity,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I am curious. Are these radical Islamic groups primarily made up of foreigners that have entered Mali, or are they citizens of the country that have been subverted to Al Qaeda's doctrine? If it is the latter, what drove the locals to buy into this extremism? How can we change things around so that the moderate voices win the day instead of the extremist nuts?
(Of course, we may need to look at our own country, too, since extremist voices here have been trying to take over public discourse here by shouting everyone else down.)
Is Fareed still on leave of absence because he got caught in Plagiarism?
Fareed, After being suspended by CNN for a month for being a plagiarist, WHY are you still around??? Any reputable news organization would have permanently kicked your butt to the curb!!
Just what the World needs: Another failed Islamic State.
Geez....
sanjosemike
I don't know where I will start the next war. Israel hasn't told me yet.
I dont know which muslim country I will install a new racist government that wants sharia law in, the muslim brotherhood hasnt told me yet....
Wonderful. Another landlocked logistical nightmare to support if our troops go in-country.
The breeding ground for radical Islam needs to be cleansed. This small area of the Earth is home to the majority of the issues that seem to effect the rest of the world. Cleanse this festering wound using nuclear weapons. 1-2 billion people incinerated and the world will be better off. The regions that radical Islam breeds in, bring nothing but misery
Islam inhabits the poorest and most uneducated areas of the Earth. It offers nothing but misery and death to its followers. The world is a better place without this false religion.
Terrible_Ted types true.
Check Your Maps, You show Iraq Map and say Iran, Big difference guys, especially for such a supposedly smart Farid, Thumbs Down
So the the sole super power has to pick fight with third world countries to assert their super power status?
Romney is responsible for the deaths of 28 people in the meningitis outbreak.
His administration let the company that provided the tainted product continue to operate even after they were caught violating safety regulations
Take your meds... go to bed.
Pray for peace, can't you.
The U. S. should pull OUT of ALL countries and stop being the world's police force. While we are TRYING to act as such, those same countries live under our umbrella at no cost. Spend our monies on modern warfare technology at the cutting most edge- and the rest on our economy. However, BEWARE of the military industrial complex- they and the health industry OWN our congress, lock, stock, and barrel.
Zakaria the bleeping re tard is sure h e ll bent to start a war that is for sure...
If the French have trades interests in Mali. Then let them put feet on the ground to defend their interests. Plan and simple.
The next time a Republican occupies the White House and he has right wing minions controlling Congress, we'll be in another war. Republicans love war. They love sending other's young men on a death march while their own kids enjoy college life and never have to make a single sacrifice. (John McCain being the exception.)
Mali is IN Africa... why did he say Africa was only mentioned one time. I don't get it.
I don't see why we have to leap at every war that comes along. Let's see other Western nations do a little leaping of their own if they're so concerned.
Americans aren't interested in War? I don't see how that's possible since we have been at war for a total of 214 years out of the 235 years the country has existed. War is big business and tax paying American's foot the bill for every bit of it.
War is a racket.
no dog in that fight , best to sit that one out .
Ignore the hard reality if it makes it easier for you to sleep, but Mali is on its way to becoming a bonafide terrorist training ground. However, Mali won't be the first place that President Romney sends your son or daughter. That will be Iran...
Are you kidding me? Is this supposed to be journalism? Jason Miks…Are you really calling a war and proud of it? “You heard it here first”. And that’s exactly why I can’t stand CNN. By the way…the people of Mali were just fine until NATO decided to cover Sarkozy’s butt by taking out Kaddafi. This whole thing is directly linked to the lack of foresight from the West. And for all of you who are saying Sorry Mali, we can’t help you? You should be ashame and not so pretentious. Learn the facts. This is not a new story. And Miks…I didn’t hear it on CNN first.
'CAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY DO SO? ONLY PAKISTAN.'
WE SALUTE YOU, PAKISTAN......The Americans acknowledge the innumerable sacrifices made by Pakistanis in this ongoing war. The Americans appreciate the bullets taken on the chest by the Pakistanis in fighting the enemy. The Americans appreciate the ultimate sacrifices made by Pakistanis in sacrificing their lives while trying to make America and the world safe.
BUNK. They shelter the enemy.
PAKISTAN !!!!
THANK YOU …. THANK YOU…. THANK YOU!!!!
FOR MAKING USA SAFE FOR MAKING THE WORLD SAFE>>>>>>>>>>>>
Since Sep 11, 2001, over 200,000 Pakistani civilians, armed forces personnel have either sacrificed their lives or wounded; more than 3.5 million have been displaced while the country has lost over
US $ 1 Trillion due to terrorism.
Despite sacrifices, Pakistan was still engaged in 'the war for world peace”.
No other country has even come close to selflessly sacrificing so much.
Pakistan, no one can ever repay you enough for your contributions.
You deserve a permanent seat in the UN Security Council for your contributions to world peace and emergence of a new world order. We welcome your rise as the new regional military power. God Speed.
Americans are such cowards today. You cry about a war were only 3000 Americans died in it. Let me put this to you straight, Iraq and Afghanistan were hardly wars. More Americans died in the occupation of Germany after WW2. Face it, when you go to war, people die, usually in the thousands. Americans are stupid to not realize that. The world is figuring out that all you have to do to beat American is let them into your country and fight the guerilla war crap until the US gives up. Other nations didn't back down when they got punch. Rome lost 10% of its population in the second war against Hannibal but the Romans didn't cry about it our talk about surrendering, they got angry and sent more troops and fought even harder until they eventually won!
US today is no different then 1939-1940 France.
You make no mention of our own corrupt oppressive government and the Elite few who financially support them. Do you not feel the Citizens of America are being systematically used to benefit the few? And if you do, wouldn't you also agree that Americans should defend themselves at all cost from tyranny even if it is on their own soil?
Embassy attacked under Bush
22 January 2002 Calcutta, India Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami gunmen attack Consulate 5
14 June 2002 Karachi, Pakistan al-Qaeda truck bomb detonates outside Consulate (more details) 12
12 October 2002 Denpasar, Indonesia Consular Office bombed by Jemaah Islamiyah as part of the Bali bombings none
28 February 2003 Islamabad, Pakistan Unknown gunmen attack Embassy 2
30 June 2004 Tashkent, Uzbekistan Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan suicide bomber attacks Embassy 2
6 December 2004 Jeddah, Saudi Arabia al-Qaeda gunmen raid diplomatic compound 9
2 March 2006 Karachi, Pakistan Car bomb explodes outside Consulate 2
12 September 2006 Demascuc, Syria Gunmen raid US Embassy 4
12 January 2007 Athens, Greece RPG Fired at Embassy by Revolutionary Struggle
Under Bush, there were violent attacks on American embassies in Yemen, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, India and Turkey. A U.S. diplomat was assassinated in Sudan. Another was murdered in Pakistan.
Republicans are such liars and hypocrits
People, especially 3rd worlders, complain that America meddles in the affairs of other nations. Well, you taught us to do so. Last century we wanted NOTHING to do with conflicts overseas, not once but twice. We claimed no part in these conflicts and yet we attacked both in WW I, and WW II pulling us into the madness of the rest of you. Now we will not wait to be attacked and will employ our power to protect our interests. Don't like it, be thankful that our politicians believe in the folly of limited war. I'd sublimate you.
If Americans have the values and principles that made America, they will vote for Obs... They will go and use their votes.
Notice the assumption of war. It is a critical part of the profiteering cycle for Military Industrial Complex's, privately owned Banking cartels, Corporate profiteers, and corrupt governments. The cycle of the Elite few benefiting at the expense of the many can only be addressed iif the people are able to identify these true Global enemies, and unite in determined sacrifice.
For the oppressed Americans, 'Where are the descendents of your Forefathers?'.
What can I say on the lining. Cheers.
Sorry dandelatorr I got into this discussion run just because of the word given to a group of Turkish people who wanted to walk to the sepulcture of a man named Atatürk. The word given to these people was and still is "ELITTE".I asked for an explanation and a dictionary version of "ELITTE"" ı could not get it. It turned out to be a word used or something which is a word used for any person who is not "than politically wanted". Anybody who can think; who can ask; who can oppose.
Who are not part of the flock. The question is that even Christ went out of the flock and did an INNOVATION.
Now that the Election is over and a respectfull entellectual exchange of knowledge will not be misdirected by other factors, can we take up this issue again? Please.
I believe there are several causes for a new war: 1) Water; 2) Agriculturaly favorable land; 3) Safe areas to live
Several new means on the war: 1) Media 2) Cyber interferance
Several short term (bluff) problems: 1) Speculations on food; 2) Speculations on weather 3) Speculations on the Armegeddon (a very successfull subcect in Islamic literature)
I should also suggest a solution on short term problem. Well please do disclose the scientific findings; the grain/food stocks and weather predictions for the coming 2 years. They are already public in many web-sites anyway.
We need to consider that on the one hand we are not the worlds police force,while on the other ,stopping extremists early on is critical. Mali didn't deserve islamist oppression and we should not ignore them. It is better to work at this early on ,and not leave them forgotten . If we pick our battles more wisely we will have more power and funds were they are needed.
You are struck on details and fail to take a macro view.If you do this you willl surely be lost in the individual news that you will receive, as a normal person. Take a macro and micro view. That must be second nature to you now. That is your career. You may cry for indiidual cases thereafter.
KC that is regional. I realy want to start a new and discuss everything on equal grouds on a global base. Can we now do it. So that everyone from all over the world can find a common equal platform? That is what I need actually.
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It's funny reading the Right's posts in late Oct. about the coming US election of Romney and Obama going down in defeat. Republican math.
"Iran was mentioned 47 times..." *picture of Iraq comes on screen*
CNN, you're not exactly helping to change the belief that Americans aren't knowledgeable about the rest of the world! Please try to be accurate in the future. Seeing that was embarrassing.
I really enjoy reading these comments, especially when people think they know what is going on in the world based off what the media tells them. No one will ever know the true motives for any war. All we will ever know is the destruction and bloodshed that is caused by these wars.