By Andrea Purse, Special to CNN
Editor’s note: Andrea Purse is the Vice President for Communications at the Center for American Progress Action Fund. The views expressed are her own.
On a Saturday morning in August, a hopeful conservative media reported gleefully about their apparent good fortune: a bright eyed, P90X –addicted, “ideas guy” would be the Republican vice presidential pick. Finally, they thought, this campaign had a visionary who would offer a bold alternative to what they saw as a failed Obama administration.
The problem? Those very ideas that conservatives called “bold” and the candidate they called “game-changing” became the noose that hanged Mitt Romney.
Mitt Romney had spent much of the primary campaign disconnecting himself from past policy positions and severing ties with his own personal experience. He ran away from his former positions on everything from health care to abortion to marriage equality. Governor Romney’s listless primary campaign never caught the imagination of conservative voters who considered choosing far right candidates – first Michele Bachmann, then Herman Cain, then Rick Santorum – in an effort to avoid picking Romney as their nominee. Ultimately, Romney captured the nomination by claiming the last seat at the end of a long and at times painful game of musical chairs – not because he had articulated a policy vision for the future of the country.
Hoping to redeem himself, the choice of Paul Ryan as running mate came at a time when Romney had just endured an embarrassing gaffe-filled international trip and his campaign had failed to pick up steam during a long summer. One would think that after offending one of America’s closest allies within hours of making landfall, the campaign would have thought to add some international heft to their ticket – but as the trip wound down it was clear that all Romney could do was just try and change the subject.
More from CNN: Romney says Obama 'gifts' won him election
In the days that followed the lovely morning ceremony from the deck of the USS Wisconsin, the choice of Ryan forced the Romney campaign to either immediately stake out actual positions on key domestic policy pieces or accept being defined by default by Ryan’s existing plans. Romney, for his part, had already said his running mate’s plan was “marvelous” and that he was “very supportive of the Ryan budget plan.”
But when debates and analysis turned to the candidate’s actual policy plans, the shiny veneer of Paul Ryan, with his remarkably stellar marathon times, did not live up to the appeal the Romney campaign had counted on.
On Ryan’s biggest issue, Medicare, his plan to turn the senior citizen health care delivery system into a voucher program didn’t have the electoral punch he had hoped for. In Florida, where Romney spent no less than $44 million, voters in exit polls said that they rejected Ryan’s Medicare voucherization plan, saying they trusted Obama more (50 percent to 46 percent) when it came to managing Medicare.
And instead of championing job-creating solutions, Republicans were left to salivate over monthly employment numbers looking for any sign of weakness and expressing disappointment when the jobs picture continued to improve. They rooted against progress because they’d otherwise need to defend the Ryan budget – a plan that they recognized had absolutely no solutions to create jobs, and disinvested in crucial infrastructure investments that would spur job growth.
In fact, his budget’s promises to deliver real deficit reduction without doing away with tax breaks for big oil and the wealthiest Americans became a real liability when matched with Mitt’s rhetoric about writing off the other “47 percent of Americans.” Obama opened a 9 point lead in Ohio, the battleground state credited as the election’s decider, just after Romney matched up his rhetoric (albeit behind closed doors) with the reality of the Ryan plan. And when Ryan made a late October wade into the crucial economic issue of poverty, he went on to further demagogue the poor as government dependents despite the fact that Americans by a wide margin (63 percent to 32 percent) reject the “you’re on your own” economics that Ryan preaches.
Romney’s attempt to woo young voters (all comments about “borrowing money from your parents” notwithstanding) with a young, bright-eyed and in-shape running mate also fell flat on its face. The problem? Romney’s belief that young people don’t have the brains to realize that Ryan’s youthfulness won’t stop his call for massive cuts of up to 42 percent to Pell grants for needy students go into effect.
Romney and Ryan, both, for their parts have weighed in on "what went wrong" - blaming their failed ground game or, and this isn't a joke: Obama playing Santa Claus with minority voters and young people. When Republicans look back at this election, though, they have to admit that doubling down on all of the failed Bush-era economic principles didn’t serve Romney or Ryan well in this election, and under any real discernment, doesn’t pass the smell test for improving our country.
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I think America decided that Obama hasnt had a fair chance to run this country, that is all.
Absolutely right! They placed all bets on a one term president..The American people are no idiots...
The American people are no idiots? Stupidity and ignorance reign SUPREME in this country. thats just the way it is. the stupid always outnumber the educated. Its been that way for year. The American people are no idiots. You sir are either living in a dream world or you are one of the idiots.
Sully should read his own comment.
most of americans aren't idiots...but there is, unfortunately, a seemingly high number of 'low educated voters'. which is the new catchphrase for dumb, The choice was so obvious, Obama should of won in a major landslide. I'm not sure if it's racism or stupidity or a mixture of the two, that prevented a landslide victory. Stupid is as stupid does, i guess. lol.
Sully is certianly an idiot.
"The American people are idiots."
That's precisely the kind of thinking that led to the Republican defeat. Show you all the tax returns? No! Make the top 5% pay a little bit more taxes? No! Show any kind of respect to the minorities and women? No!
You can't expect to win votes from voters you don't respect.
Actually many people who voted for Romney are either idiots of very misinformed due to the NEWS media in this country. If you did not vote for Obama because you are wealthy or racist I may disagree with you but at least I understand your argument. Otherwise friends – you don't make sense. True about the smell test, every politician on the extreme right and the church pushing itself into the political arena – DOES NOT PASS THE SMELL TEST.
The blatant campaign lies did not help, either.
Sully can't read his own comment.
My parrot does a "Sully" now and then.
I just move the mirror away so he doesn't feel threatened.
Sully proves that there are at least some ldlots in here.
@sully If Americans are idiots, what does that say about the Republican party? They can't even convince "idiots" to elect their candidate? If the average American is an idiot, then that makes Republicans even more ridiculously moronic!
The red states in the south with the highest GOP voting counties are also the most uneducated and impoverished counties. So the argument that those who supported Obama are uneducated (stupid) is an absurd argument. The Republicans say that the Democrats won because they targeted minorities and women voters could also be pointed at Republicans who like to scare the crap out of poor and uneducated white voters. Luckily we have information overload at our fingertips and can fact check now days. The scare tactics are easy to disprove.
yeah yeah, Sully, there are some idiots, but percentage-wise the intelligent citizens vote in much larger numbers
@sully.....Since you are questioning our intelligence. You should be upset that city after city is cutting school funding. If you want to give kids a chance to succeed, you have to invest in education. By the way Obama wants to invest in education, Romney wants to cut federal assistance for education.
Perfect example of the moron vote!.........................Idiot!
Not stupid just racist and ignorant. Romney won the "rural white southern male" vote hands down. Those guys simply hated the idea of a black guy being resident. If not forthose guys it would have been a much bigger win for Obama. Next time in 2016 the Democrate will liley not be black and demographics will have shifted even more in the Democrat's favor. The Repuplican party is doomed unless they can find a centrist candidate who has a plan to help the middle class (and middle is people making about $50K, NOT those making over $250K)
Oh yes they are!
Sully was right in one way, there are a lot of dumb voters, if there were not, then Obama would have won by a landslide. Luckily a higher percentage of people were not dumb enough to vote for Romney
Here's a depiction of education level and how they voted – a picture speaks a million (63 million actually) words!!
http://media.townhall.com/townhall/blog/educatedstates.jpg
...and this is from twonhall.com (a very conservative website)
If Americans weren't idiots, then Obama and Romney would not have been in the race. As George Carlin put it, "garbage in, garbage out."
Ryan looked like Dan Quayle Jr. with the deer in the headlights look. Do you really think someone that stupid should be VP? I'm a Republican in Texas and I think that way.
speaking of uneducated..."should of...?" should be "should have."
Don't overestimate the American Idiot. They'll surprise you every time
Sully, you are partially correct. The American public has (on many occasions) showed itself to be supremly ignorant and yes, even stupid at times, but this election the tea partiers and Fox News went so far crazy with their wholesale adoption of the big lie technique (Hitler's Propaganda Minister, Joseph Goebbels put it so infamously, "Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." and "The bigger the lie the more they will believe it.") that, through the advantage of the internet, comedy "news programs" such as "The Daily Show", "The Colbert Report", "Real Time with Bill Maher" and the incredible cast of news commentators led by Rachel Maddow on MSNBC, the American public woke up and called BS to the shameless and endless lying of the tea party republicans and Fox News. This waking up process and the growing awareness of American voters that the Republicans had been porposely obstructing any and all problem solving by the Obama administration in order to "make Obama a one-term President", led to a backlash against republican obstructionism and idiological fascism.
Let us hope that those US citizens who woke up, will stay awake and stay politically motivated and involved and to demand viable solutions to the nation's many serious and reaching the-point-of-no-return crises, such as global climate change – and hold all politician's feet to the fire to work together to solve these critical problems.
The problem is not that Americans are idiots. Their IQs make up a bell curve same as always. Their problem is intellectual laziness. It doesn't matter how intelligent you are, which determines your ability to process information, if you're too lazy to acquire information to process or the information you process is not accurate. Americans are woefully uninformed and misinformed. Sadly, they seem to like being that way.
many attributed romney/gop/tp lost on voter education. Well, have gop/tp ever considered which party cut the funding for education. As a group, the asian are most educated, who did the asians vote for? btw, what gift obama promise to the asians?
Sully is beachy.. I don't care for beaches like him !
People who vote and actually believe that we will one day have a government that is not corrupt and will take care of the people is an absolute idiot regardless of their IQ, or educational background. Politics is nothing more than a team sport where people vote for their team period.. If your team loses you whine like babies until the next election. Heaven forbid the people get behind the president and do all they can to make this country better. Politics is just another failed religion.
Indeed, the Republicans have been over-confident and underestimated their opponents and the voters. Perhaps they might have a better chance next time with more sensible candidates. Both Ryan and Romney don't have what it takes to govern a country.
Its not "low educated" voters, its "low information" voters. These are very different.
Me Amuricn. Me not stupit. Me voot for sumone else on elctishion day. I sad cuz i not see dis guy on tv. His name is Gary Johnson. He was the Governor of my Sate a few years back. Although I did not agree with all of this policies, he would have been the very best bet for the survival of America and it's future. We ARE a bunch of idiots if even for a fleeting moment, we thought either Romney or Obama would have made a real difference. Gary would have been our true President as opposed to Puppets and Puppeteers. We blew it folks, again.
Yes, you are right, at the end of the day the GOP didn't count on that. There entire focus was getting rid of Obama and they were blinded by their own hate. The problem is they just will not take responsibility for their actions.
Was I thrilled to vote for Obama? No. Was I so terrified of Romney and Ryan that I would have voted for a seal with a pen and a tie? Absolutely.
I totally agree. Given the situation and prospective actions, Obama was by far best.
I felt the same way. I was not 100% happy with Obama after voting for him the first time, but I recognized that many of his failures were the result on GOP obstructionism, and more importantly, that a GOP victory would be worse. So I voted for Obama again and hope that this time the GOP will stop playing "make the other guy look bad" and start doing their job, because Obama's head and heart and clearly in the right place.
Let's all meet back here two years from now. Should be interesting to see how different the unemployeement rate will be. The economy, the stock market, Obama Care and it's effects?? Somehow I have a feeling that not much is going to change or get better with 4 more years of the same. But, than again, I guess you will say that it was Bush's fault and that Obama needs more time. I suppose that Hilary will blame the last 8 years on Bush as well when she runs in 2016.
You Libs should be happy that you belong to the lucky sperm club. What would the country be like if Gore would have won in 2000?
What he said
Buba – well one thing that would be different if Gore won in 2000.....is our deficit would not be as large – because we wouldn't have needed to pay off that Iraq war. Which the american public was lied to – and led to a war that did not need to be fought.....and one that we and our children will be paying for for years to come.
Buba – good name for ya'. Two years from now if everything is still being locked up and the Republican's continue to be obstrctionists, then I see the house and senate rolling over into the Democrat column, and all bets then are off the table!! There will be no filibusters or vetoes. We'll see money spent for everything beautiful, and the rich crooks antying up from their foreign accounts – with high penalties for hiding it!!. Glory – Glory Haleleuia!!
If Gore had won, we wouldn't have had two Trillion Dollar, unbudgeted wars, obscene tax cuts for the rich, and the Financial sector meltdown.
Well said.
Buba – one less war to deal with
I couldn't agree more- and thanks for the laugh. Now every time I see Mittens I'm going to picture a seal in a tie holding a pen.
Buba, that is hypothetical. I know what Bush did for us – took us into meaningless wars, gave away money to those who already had enough, encouraged the Far Right to feel empowered – and damn the consequences. Result: No one wants Bush anywhere near them, least of all, Republicans. It is as if we want to wipe his name off the books. It is only insane people in the GOP who want to bring back the likes of him. The GOP knows not where it wanders and keeps diving into rabbit holes like abortion, immigration, Christianism etc. That's why Romney got the boot.
If Gore had been Prez starting in 2000, half of New Jersey might not be underwater like it is now.......
Romney was doomed by many facets. From an endless primary being associated with total baffoons like Bachman and Santorum. A media that REFUSED to give him a fair shake and covered everything wrong under Obama. Does not have the personality to connect with people...rich, old, young, poor...he is wooden. And most importantly his get out the vote system failed so miserably that in a cycle with such horrid economic stats and history pointing to a massive Obama loss...they gave away the vote.
On the Gore BS...yes he probably would not have gone into Iraq. But he would have gone head over heels on climate change, cap and trade, etc...he would have bankrupted the energy industries and given away billions to failed green companies...like Obama did but only a massive scale.
Obama has been teflon in the fact that the media, his voters, etc have believed that he is not at fault FOR ANYTHING that has gone wrong. He pointed fingers and everyone bobbed their heads. Yet anything good was overwhelming showered on him as greatness. This blame game it's Bush, It's the Republicans, etc....is going TO GET OLD VERY QUICKLY. Clinton faced far more obstruction than Obama could ever dream of. Obama had 2 years of total control and now 2 years of divided and he has still failed but pointed fingers. Clinton had a nutball congress that impeached him. And yet he still sat down and agreed to balanced budget and cuts to welfare.
Obama has TO LEAD. It is what he campaigned on and said he could do...LEAD. Not just punish so called rich opeople by taxing them to death...that doesnt fix the probelm. He has to LEAD.
Aja, your 100% correct. Deal with the Devil you know. Not the Devil you dont! Romney simply did not pass the smell test!
Not only did the Romeny/Ryan ticket not take Ryan's own state, Ryan couldn't even take his own CITY. Kind of says a lot about the man doesn't it?
So true. Made me laugh out loud!
That about sums it up for many of us.
The freak show trotted out by the republican party during the primaries didn't help. Romney was the best qualified and that is scary.
steve jackson, I guess you're still in "lie to myself"mode, but you really need to get the facts straight. Th thing that bothers me the most is this ridiculous idea that Obama had a friendly Congress for two years. It was actually less than 60 days, because Ted Kennedy died and they lost the supermajority then. The republicans then filibustered EVERYTHING afterwards. Stop fooling yourself, you lost in an electoral landslide, and now it's time to go along for the ride.
@Aja
Excalty. I've heard that samething from many other people aswell.
I agree with Aja. I consider myself to favor the President, but looking at some of Romney's more pragmatic or moderate efforts, I thought he might be a viable candidate. Romney's selection of Ryan made it clear that Romney sold his soul to the far right. Bad choice.
I was thrilled to vote for Obama. Given what he has had to face, from the most obstructive Congress since the Civil War to the worst economy since the Great Depression, he has done a remarkable job. I give the man a lot of credit and have great respect for the grace he has shown in the face of so much hatred and hostility.
To Buba, Gore did win in 2000. He won the popular vote and likely won Florida. It was only after the Supreme Court prevented Florida from continuing to count votes, that was Bush given the "win", with a whopping 271 electoral votes of 270 he needed.
Gore did win.
How could you be terrified of Mitt Romney? He was the most moderate candidate either party has fielded in the past 100 years.
I know I did not want a preacher or priest in chief. Ryan told us who he was when he put forth his bills in congress. Romney tried to become all things to all people.
Repairing the infrastructure is Not make work, it is necessary to keep America going, repairing bridges, roads, improving airports, updating new technology is not wasting taxpayer money, and hiring Americans to do the work is not a waste of money. Yet Ryan wanted to make major cuts in this. I don't know about anyone else but I like riding on interstate highways that are in good repair, and over bridges that are not going to collapse. We can't keep waiting until they are that bad to keep them in repair. It only makes sense, and the individual states can't do it alone either.
It will be interesting if you feel the same way in four years. But hey, whats six trillion more in debt to future generations?
Eh' "bubba". Where was the stock market in March of 2008, and where is it now ? I have an idea. Watch something beside Fox "News" and you might obtain a better grasp on reality.
Many voted against GOP/TP. Obama is just the lesser of two devils.
HEY STEVE JACKSON!!!!!!
I agree with some of your statements, but you ARE WRONG on Obama's green energy investments! Solyndra and a number of other GREEN energy companies that were invested into that failed only comprise 5-8% of the total green energy companies Obama invested in. The other 92 % have been SUCCESSFUL! Please look it up if you don't believe me.
JAL: I disagree with you. I think most Americans felt Obama DID have a fair chance to run the country, and didn't do very well, but still did better, and would do better, than Romney would have.
Really?????????????????
Obama did just fine!! Open your eyes as to why he was pushed around by the House(R)party, the reason dumb,dumbs blame him for not doing enough!!!! It really angers me to see how stupid anyone is that says Obama didn't do as promised!! Hopefully in 2 more years ( 2014) the Democrats will get control of the House and John Boehner will be thrown out!! There would be absolutely no threat of a soooo called fiscal cliff!!
Not with a Congress and an opposing party that were willing to keep tax payers hungry, unemployed, and going to hell in a hen basket . all in the name of discrediting a President that wasnt like themselves. NO ,no not only was Obama not given a chance, neither was the average citizen. They voted against job bills, benefits to the military, veteran's benefits. The elderly who dont have sweet government compensations. WE DONT VOTE ON OUR RAISES! So dont give me that crap about how Obama sank us alone. The CON-GRESS IS THE OPPOSITE OF PRO-GRESS. Free market is only for those who can AFFORD to buy the market. Both parties blow!
I am not sure that we ever had a president who had so much to strive to achieve with as much opposition by an evil party and so much ill media coverage. The media has turned this into a boxing match and keeping it all close to a tie until the final moment helped generate billions for their coverage and ads. How disappointing to have the NEWS be nothing but egg shells.
Record number of filibusters, by republicans, during Obama's last term, nuff said...
...did you mean "...a fair chance to RUIN the Country?" ...if so I totally agree...
In four years, the Chinese will thank all of you for reelecting this inept person...
China will reign as the number one power while you look back and rue a bankrupt America...
The undoing of the powerful empires comes from within... a pity though, as this WAS the best Country in tthe world
carrie,
Obama had ZERO roadblocks in his way for the first two years of his presidency...and spent more American tax payer money than any time in American history. Trillions...gone. And a lot more coming down the pike with crazyObamaCare. We'll all pay for it (those few who are left who work for a living). $16 Trillion in debt. And growing fast.
I thank God that one side of Congress provides some level of checks and balances. THe WH, Senate and now even the Supreme Court are run by the left. And growing.
Regan's first term was horrible..his second, BRILLIANT. I am predicting the same here
"I don't recall."
@jUNG–great one! I think the same here. Presidents who no longer have to fight to keep office are more bold and forceful in taking care of business. (both parties-no exception)
Regan didn't do brilliant jobs,he was way to over-rated! Cut tax to the rich and left huge deficit to us,paved the ways to his fellow Republicans to continue his torch to work for the rich. Compare with them, George A.Bush was better, at least he had the courage to raise tax when he country needed even knowing it'd risk his chance of 2nd term.
Reagan was solid in his first 4 years too. It took about 2 years..but the country was a much happier place in '83 then it was in '80. And Ronnie wasn't "the Great Divider" like the current president.
Agreed.
I liked Mitt Romney... still do. I think President Obama should ask him to take a major post. Romney could still have a profound effect on the progress of this country and the world, if he believes in America, which I am convinced he does.
You are quite wrong JAL....Romney has made it clear in his recent conference call words to his donors that he was not kidding when he spoke about the 47% and that he thinks President Obama "bought" the votes of over half the electorate. This is not a man who has any place in government.
Yes, I think Obama should ask Romney to take the position of Supervisor of the SewerDept because of all the Feces he spun during his campaign
Are you kidding me? He's acting like a spoiled baby. Which he is!
He was my Governor for 4 years and he blew it. Keep him out of the Federal Government.
Obama is the bigger man and normally he would offer his rivals a position if he felt that they are willing to help this nation.
Sorry, Romney has nothing. He is a fake cereal box not even worth the air inside. Republicans! Please get rid of your church and other Evil contributors so you may represent the part of this country that wants to listen to whatever your idealism use to be. Get rid of the hate, get rid of the anger, get rid of FOX, throw Trump out the window (without opening it first).
Show us a new republican party that is deep, that is not based on evil. Don't just go through a cosmetic change. Replace your leaders and your hate. There are laws and bills that can make this country awesome that can be put in place in days... Things we as citizens would all agree on. Let's demand that both parties make changes. Let's first appeal the"companies are people too" law.
If Obama was looking for parasite-in-chief to run a ponzi in the treasury department Romney would be the guy!
How 'bout giving Romney the ambassadorship of Libya?
Agreed. Though as the article pointed out, he didn't so great with diplomacy, so Secretary of State or an Ambassadorship is out. Potentially a good Commerce Secretary, or maybe someone to champion the health care initiatives. Romney did oversee the successful implementation of a similar program in MA, and now that he's no longer running, he doesn't have to run away from his accomplishments to appease the right.
The only job that Mitt should be left to do is a greeter at Walmart or Meijer (without pay)
Bite your tongue til it hurts!
You are absolutrly correct. It is obvious Governor Romeny's recent rant are the true feelings of his backers, save mis led citizens that believe his sincerity.
I agree witih sandra
Note to Mitch McConnell and Bohner. Never set main goal as to take down somebody and even if it is so, don't make it public. It comes back to you with vengeance.
I was thinking the same thing. How many times did Republican say they goal was to get rid of Obama. Their goal should have been to run the best campaign they could;l offer the American people the best they had. Much like any sports race, you should focus on doing the best you can, not by beating any one person.
So very true, and whether you believe in God or not, there is no good deed that can be born with evil intent. It is one thing to have a difference of opinion, or a different political ideology, but we are still all Americans. Romney frightened me, and it was obvious he had no feeling for Americans, but Paul Ryan made it crystal clear that the current Republicans want Americans to suffer, and even to die, so that the rich can get richer. I have thanked God every day since the election that Romney and Ryan will never lead the United States.
No to mention, no tax records, his flip flop on EVERY possible issue, lack of moral character, the 2012 olympics insult, the 47%, the car elevator, the lying about where he lived and filing amended tax returns to fix that lie, going after big bird, going after planned parenthood, picking paul ryan of all people, being a bishop of a cult. Nothing against mormans... all churches are cults who take a blind eye to any science.
The sad part is that I could go on and on and on with all his lies. I think you get the point.
Well said !
Is that all you can come up with?
Everyone here is missing the shell game here by the money makers in thisa country. They had American's focusing on the Presidential Election, while in fact we should have been focuing on the Congressional Elections. Anything interesting here folks, yep, same players as last time that actually control the spending......
Wake Up! Most American's are smart, but we got played again..... By way, with all the talk of taxes going up, are you watching the fact you're being taxed right now? Look at your 401K, as these Congressional clowns squablle over fixing the budget, they money makers are cooly removing money from the market which means your retirement money is decreasing again by thousand's of $'s. Lot more than the $2500 tax increase you'll get from a non starter fix to budget.... Stepping over a few $'s to pick up some cents, nice move again...
well there's still time to vote some of them out..I guess we have to wait til 2014..but we can fix it then.
America came top their senses just in the nick of time. The media shouldn't blame Ryan for Romney being Romney. If you want to blame someONE blame the GOP for putting a guy like Romney in the race for presidency, they already lost at that point.
couldn't agree more, the gop has committed suicide by backing romney -would have done better with ron paul after all, but gop "mascot" should be changed from elephant to asinus anyway
Obama was willing to take on a snowballing disaster in his first term. He said from day one it was going to be a long and difficult road .....which it has been, no lie. Take all the mounting disasters and have to deal with a party of republicans across the aisle who were going to make sure you would fail in your attempts to cure this country. The GOP's goal day one was to get Obama out, not work with him, and to obstruct all the way until the election last week. All while holding this country hostage. Any american with common sense saw this and knew this to be the case. America told the GOP how they felt about their behavior last week and the GOP was punished severely and rightfully so.
Junior you are right, as in exactly right. Having said that I do not understand why we won by only 3,000,000 votes.
This should have been a clear effortless election as in 80% to 20%. I talk to many Republican friends and they are so misinformed or so hateful that they can't listen to reason. They complain about healthcare prices but they won't give Obamacare a chance, they complain about the poor abusing the system but they refuse to talk about the rich causing us to collapse. They talk about not wanting to pay for an abortion even though they support abortion – simply refuse to acknowledge that it would cost thousands and thousands more later.
He has had 4 years. How much more on the job training does he require? What a joke! This is the type of voter that gives us the mess in Washington.
The republicans have been spending 4 years to thwart against the President in most of the issues,last time he extended the tax cut to the rich was Republicans threaten to cut the unemployment extension during the X'mas time. Do you remember? They held the less fortunate as hostage to favorite over the rich. The President is far from the best, and he sometimes disappointed me, but still, far better than any republicans candidates.
The mess in Washington was caused by the Republicans refusing to compromise on much of anything. I am disappointed so many of the Republican House members were re-elected.
However, if they keep acting like they did today at the hearing on Libya, it's very possible there will be a larger Democratic presence in the House after the elections in 2014.
CW, ALL Presidents go through on the job training but President Obama does not need any more on the job training. What he needs is for the Rethuglicans in Congress to either get with the program or get out of the way – there is work to be done and the nation doesn't need any more treasonous obstruction from the likes of McConnell, Boehner and Cantor. Oh, one big difference between President Obama and the Mittster is that President Obama is intelligent enough to benefit from and take advantage of the on the job training opportunities that he has had. You can't say the same thing about the Mittster. Or about our last disastrous Rethuglican President either. The nation will be suffering from the effects of his mistakes for many decades.
CW either your very decieved or there's something in it for you cos those ppl were telling the truth,knock it off!
Obama manipulated the American people. Think about what he screams from microphones, how he speaks at press conferences, how he talks about people who oppose his ideas, and the policies he puts in place – they are not consistent – and they're very divisive – they are anything but unifying. Very dangerous and destructive.
Screams what from microphones?! Support your allegations with verifible facts, otherwise be gone! He won for the betterment of this nation, get used to it.
@ AC Where have you been the last four years? All he did was campaign. He was always at a podium screaming from a microphone about his lies, manipulation and agenda. Laughing at those who don't agree with him – because of his narcissism. Deliberatly trying to divide Americans against each other. Well, he succeeeded. It's a tragedy for this great country. Our views on what is the betterment of this country couldn't be more opposing.
@freedom..................Stop watching fox news. The republicans stopped him every chance they got. Give an example of a divisive statement? Get over it. Romney lost.
@ Ken Fox news is not the issue – they are a very credible news agency. You have been brainwashed to think othewise, because others are threatened by their success. Do you really need examples? OK, here's one – rich people shouldn't have so much money. Why not? Obama has a lot of money. He doesn't give much to charity either. Romney gave millions to charity. He wants to have class warfare – rich agains poor. That's not our system or society. He's ingesting something into it that is destructive. Instead of trying to uplift all of society, he wants to punish those who have worked hard to get where they are, who in turn hire people, and stimulate the economy. Have you seen how many companies are laying off employees after the election. It's in response to Obama's presidency.
Freedom you either smoking something unordinary or wearing fox news supplied glasses
Oh freedom he does not either,stop lying.
This "Credible news agency" of which you speak has gone before Congress and openly admitted to fabricating news stories. So much for that.
Members of Congress took an approach to their jobs in 2009 that simply saught to see nothing done if anyone else – the President, moderate Republicans, anyone – was to see it done. You only need see their own news conferences for evidence.
I'm stuck on the irony that GOP wins in 2010 were based on the idea that those voted in were going to create jobs as their priority. We're stil waiting for them to come through on that I think.
Mr. Romney was a sometimes-moderate who made his way to the finals mostly on the failings of his GOP rivals. And once there, had had little choice but to follow the Party's credo in order to maintain support. Whether he actually believed in it or not, only he knows for sure, but he could not sell it. When others in the party came up with more and more fantastic things to say about the electorate, he seemed even powerless to refute them. Distancing oneself is not the same as taking a stand against something wrong or supporting something right; he did vacilated on both . His campaign was not girded to handle that.
Hmmm. gifts... getting stuff... show me a voter who doesn't want "stuff" from someone they vote for...
I think Obama had more than a fair chance. In reality the country marginally decided he had just done enough.Only a few million votes difference in a country of 330 million people (I know not all vote).
I just wish we could find a fiscal sanity party to run the country. Taxing the rich more will just pander to the base, it won't come very close to closing the deficit gap. The government needs some tough fiscal love right now and we have punted for another 4 years.
Fair chance? This is the same country that gave BUSH four more years AFTER the 9/11 attacks. If he can get four more years after that, then Obama deserves four more. Pull your head out of your AZZ
Did Ken Margo just blame Bush for the 9/11 attacks (indirectly)?? The guy was in office for what...8 months or so when it happened (and had been in planning for years prior). The majority of the blame on that one goes to the previous administration that looked the other way on foreign policy for 8 years. I'm a big fan of Clinton's fiscal policies (he was more conservative than Bush in that area!) but he failed on the critical foreign affairs issue of the time...staying on top of the homeland threat.
The best part about Obama getting elected is he can't run again.
No, the best part about President Obama being reelected is that all those Obama haters will have to choke on that hate for another 4 years.
That's pretty much it. Bush caused the meltdown by his inattention to the job, but now that the economy is improving it now becomes Obama's job to sustain it.
Add to that is the fact that Romney was a champion blunder machine, and he's still at it!
The economy is not improving. The day after the election stocks plummeted and people are losing their jobs all over the country – because of Obama's election. NOT because Bush was president four years ago. Romney is a stellar businessman and no one can deny that. Obama is a master manipulator and community organizer. Look at reality – not Obama's lies.
Perfect moron vote answer!..........................idiot!
Morons your party is dieing and you still are name calling, that's why you lost. You all can't even see thru your "whiteness", get with the times.
Wow you get it !!!
Ryan looked like Dan Quayle Jr. with the deer in the headlights look. Do you really think someone that stupid should be VP? I'm a Republican in Texas and I think that way.
Its hard to run a country when your golfing
After the "Free gifts" thing, this case is closed. The majority of Americans made the right choice.
YES!
Sully or was it Sulky? Who is the real idiot? Read your own posting! Stupid moron!
Amen. None of us 47 percenters are dumb enough to accept Romney's "smoke and mirrors" campaign nonsense. We need a Pres. and Vice Pres. saavy enough to deal with international issues. Also, I suspect we all recognize a person who truly does care about all Americans....not someone who sneers behind closed doors about those he labels as victims. Thank God we were all sensible enough to vote for Pres. Obama and not become Romney's victims!
More people want free checks than not is why Obama won. Sign of the times, you will no longer win elections without promising to keep the checks rolling in and promising to find new ways to give out free checks.
That isn't why and you know it steve.Stop the comebacks they make ya look bad.
You're right!!! Now Mutt is saying the Latinos and others voted because of gifts, talk about being way off base.
I guess his first 2 years didnt count at all. Its only like half of his total time as president.
I believe Paul Ryan caused Romney some damage! He came on like a hungry Raptor and started to spread lies that were almost comical. His blaming Obama for things that had happened when Obama was't even POTUS was a hoot!
The guy was always putting his foot in his mouth. His attempt to pass himself off as a poor Irish Catholic from WI was a feeble joke! The guy is Irish and he is supposedly Catholic but he came from old big GAS money. I pegged him as a loser
from the get go. Romney should have too! And the GOP and their lying cohorts like FOX News and the whole Rupert Murdoch "machine" Chocked on their own vomit! The GOP's image may be unrecoverable! They harvested what they sowed....there is a God!
I think romney doomed the USS romney, ryan was just rearranging the deck chairs on the sinking ship.
GOD help of all. Obama is making this great country a shell of its formal self. This President is a joke. He won because he spent 4 years giving out handouts, in return they gave him thier vote. Also, African American's would still vote for him even he he came out and said "I hate America and want to ruin this country, because he is black. Then he spends more time on talk shows, both day and night to sound cool to both womena and college kids. The only good he has done was for himself and his golf game....
...americans (and others around the world) are idiots. This is true when it comes to the masses. You or I may be smart, but people collectively and in masses are stupid. The difference with americans is that many of us (if not most) are ignorant by choice as stupidity and ignorance not only are they acceptable but they are celebrated and promoted. Education and knowledge are underrated. We live in a world of (mis)information where most people here get their 'news' via tidbits of info (primarily imagery).
They doomed each other and Obama IS a gift to America.
I assume you're being sarcastic.
Malibu123: I assume you are being sarcastic.
What with 17 trillion national debt, 1.5 trillion projected every future year of Obama's rein, we really can't afford any more of these types of gifts. But hey, just kick the can on down the road. Let many future generations pay the bills. American way any more.
Um, if Ryan hurt Romney's campaign, you should blame Romney for picking him. Just like McCain picking Palin (although not nearly as bad in my opinion)
True. As usual the Republicans are not able to face their responsibilities, because it is always someone else's fault.
What is with the Republicans choices for VP? Ryan was a disaster, and he was the best pick since Reagan picked GW Bush, although Jack Kemp probably would have made a better President than Dole would.
You mean George H.(Herbert) Bush. Geore W. aka Du[m]bya was Darth Cheney's vice prez.
But at least Biden is a genius....
I hope you are right. This race was way too close for comfort. Many people do not agree with your thinking here. Sad but true.
Don't forget about Ryan's staunch moral objections to women's independence – wanting small government and religious freedom, but regulating anything a woman could do with her own body...talking about faith, and finances way out of step with Mainstream America (but in step with the Fox News America bubble).
It is not so much about what she can do to her body, but also respecting the other little human body inside of her. They both have rights because they both are people. Planned Parenthood is one of the most corrupt organizations in the country, and has policies to convince undecided women to get an abortion, just because it profits them more. We know that is how business works, and PP takes it to the max. It would be much better for the health of women to fund Crisis Pregnancy Centers and other groups which actually care for the well-being of women.
Your just a tea party self-serving troll who is still practicing the big lie technique "Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" – Joseph Goebbels (Hitler's Propaganda Minister).
The faster we get rid of Romney/Ryan the better off we'll be. They're history!
They lost... they're over...let's move on! We have work to do!
Explain it to them. There is a lot of money at stake and I think they feel obliged to say something, because Romney's sponsors must be really angry. I cannot even think of how many millions they wasted.
Under Statement, you should have said how many Billions were wasted on the election process
Millions to them for their cause is a penny for you and I. Also had they won, the payback would be 1000 fold.
True – lets move on. Europe has learned the lession but we think we are smart. Lets bring the socialism to America and have our kids go through the same thing in 35-40 years that Greece is going through – at least we will enjoy our life – who cares about kids – at least not Obama; he took care of his kids.
There's that word again. I doubt you even know what socialism means or how Obama is supposedly trying to create it. Quit repeating talking points and educate yourself.
Jung, you can be sure that he doesn't know what the word 'socialism' really means. most of those I heard or read using it have no idea what it really means.
Oh Booo! The big bogeyman called Socialism. OK take away social security, medicaid, medicare, college tuition assistance, head start programs, etc. Gosh those Socialist nations of Canada, Scandinavia, much of western Europe have completely gone over the cliff now haven't they ?!
At least Romney campaign were talking about fixing social security and medicare – may not be great idea. Obama's approach is to avaid talking about issues with SS and medicare – anyway he will be out in next 4 years. Or may be let's take more loan from China and India to keep funding SS and medicare and 46m people on food stamp until the country go bankrupt. At that time may be Obama will move his family to China and live happily ever after.
don't believe everything you read..do you own research. That is NOT what is going to happen. You are perpetuating the Republican lie
How much US debt is US owned? How much is owned by China?
Scott – Scott – Scott. Why be so bitter. You need to get over this anger. Obama's it – and Romney's . . . not it. Everyhing you said is pure krap that's been spread for too long a time from people who like to say "Reagan" as often as they can. They are opportunists who thought they could capitalize on a bad economy and a minority President, and ended up spending a bunch of money to find out you still can't "put lipstick on a pig"!! Let's go Forward!!
Of course Obama will be out in four years. He can't run after eight even if he wanted. You must be Republican for making that statement. And China is Romney's friend, remember he outsourced jobs there....that is one reason he lost.
Scott, people here telling you that "it's not so" are right. We do need to make changes and both parties need to represent the people. No hostages, no conditions, no Bull. The far right is deadly. At least a complete liberal won't hurt an ant, nut an extreme right wing republican would sell his mother. Sad but true.
Changes can be made to social security and medicare to keep both solvent. There is more debt now than there used to be for several reasons – unfunded wars, tax reductions during war time, and most recently, a really deep and difficult recession. Republicans are all doom and gloom. It's time to look around and realize things are getting better. Sure, we'd all like the recovery to go faster (well, except for some who wanted to keep the President a one term president) but just because we want something, doesn't make it so.
Face it, republicans are sore losers. They can dish it out but they can’t take it when it hits them right back in the face. The far right are toxic and full of hate as well as greedy, racist, one dimensional and OLD. They care about the 1-2% only and don't give a damn about the rest of the population and that includes most middle class republican voters too. But high/middle/lower class republican followers have blinders on. They believed the flip flop lies and just say " he (Romney/Ryan) didn't really mean what he said" when they said they were getting rid of social security or medicare. If Romney/Ryan had came out and declared that they were the Antichrist & the Devil the republican PR machine would have branded them as the modern new republican party and most republican followers would have obediently cheered and voted for them anyway the same the same way the Germans did for Hitler & Goebbels in Nazi Germany in the 1930's. With that said I'll take my chances on Obama any day !!
It makes one wonder if posters like Scott at=re being deliberately disingenuous or simply ignorant.
SS and Medicare are self funded with their own specific payroll taxes plus, those on medicare are paying a monthly fee in addition to the taxes they have paid all their working lives..
This article is not quite correct. Romney did not change his position on preserving traditional marriage. He has always been supportive of preserving marriage, despite his state allowing SSM. Obama changed his position on this, however. I also think Ryan helped Romney, though obviously some disagree.
Yes, that's right–Ryan helped keep Romney relevant when otherwise he was sliding downhill all the way to the first debate. That's when Obama's jump off the Performance Cliff appeared to offer some hope to team Romney. However, Ryan's impact would have been seen as even less than described in this article if Obama hadn't given them that glimmer of hope.
Ryan helped Romney do what? They lost by a landslide!
62 million to 58 million is a landslide? The math skills of a liberal.....
"Landslide?" 2 million vote difference is not nearly a "landslide." Also, BO got about 8 million less votes than he did in 2008. A resounding "whimper" for a re-election.
A landslide is when you expect to win it all and then say you had no idea you could lose it all and do. LANDSLIDE!!!!!
@malibu-I would say that 332 to 206 is pretty much a landslide or are you trying to do that math that makes you feel better as a Republican.
Landslide? Not quite. And a very large percentage of those who voted for President Obama had to hold their noses while doing it (viewing it as the marginally lesser of two evils). The Great Divider won. I hope he's successful...but I expect the vast majority of Americans will be glad to see him moving out of the WH in Jan of '17. Can't come soon enough but I will watch the likely train wreck.
It was an Electoral College Landslide. Thank God the "swing states" have the ability not to be dooped by transparent lies
Romney himself did not inspire confidence. He had various positions depending on the target audience and time of day. Don't blame Ryan. Blame Romney for investing in a theoratician as a running mate – a person the general public looked down on.
I was disappointed in Obama. Bush did nothing for my family so I was hoping Romney might be a breath of fresh air. However, when I looked into Ryan and his Ann Rand beliefs, his already written budget plan and the fact that he voted for all bush borrowed money. He also obstructed the Obama budget, shut down the government and was one of those who decided in 08 to make Obama a one term guy. With all that baggage I voted for the guy we knew. Yes, he hurt Romney.
Good for you for staying informed and thanks for voting.
Ryan's ideas were practical solutions to big problems. Obama mislead people, entirely, about those plans, simply to win the election. In other words, he totally misrepresented them.........and the majority of people simply don't understand, very much, about government, so they bought the misrepresentation.
That is entirely what the Dems do........they lie and misrepresent, everything about the opposition. They win that way, so of course, they will continue to do that, into perpetuity.
Really, the real facts are misrepresented? Give the us the real facts if your the expert. Ryan solutions just did not meet the test of helping.
And now we continue to have the leading Republicans continue being nasty. Senile McCain and others. They don't want any solutions, just keep up the fighting words. Many of the Republicans are not for helping the nation or people, but to promote themselves.
And the Romney/Ryan lies about the President's directive on welfare, Jeep moving jobs to China, the PPACA Medicare "cuts" were truthful? Please. If you fact check this campaign, you'll find out who the real liars were.
I won't rise to your comments about Obama/Dems lie blah blah blah, but the Ryan plans problems lay in the fact they were NOT practical solutions for anyone but the right. To the extent anyone was able to do the math they hurt far more people than they helped, and that's why people didn't buy 'em.
Wasn't it nice Sam to see that the American public couldn't be fooled. It makes my heart warm to see that the people were actually analyzing what was said and not just blindly following the rhetoric. If the GOP keeps this up they will become totally irrelevant and we will see a more moderate NEW PARTY form to replace them. One that is fiscally conservative but actually has a bit of a social conscience and doesn't subscribe to social Darwinism. Makes me smile!
Ryan's plans were practical only in that they could potentially have turned into a budget if he'd been elected. Otherwise, they were exactly the opposite of practical: ideologically driven proposals that were put forward without any regard to their real-world consequences. Thank goodness we will be avoiding those consequences.
Rick, I think you need to look in the mirrow. it is the mind set of people like you that is the problem we have today. get away from the fox lies. romney and ryan told lie after lie. they lied about everything. like romney making up a lie about jeep moving to china. he and ryan showed the american voters (the ones that matter, not the ones that watch fox.) that neither one of them could be trusted. the republican party has become the party of liars, haters and crazies. until they come to their senses they will continue to loose.
And what was Romney doing? He had 3 different stances on the same topics, questions were just stated differently..He was all over the place.. Can't trust a car salesman that won't allow let you read the contract before signing.. Plain and simple, he was just too out of touch with the common american..Everything he said about the poor, sick and elderly he meant it whole heartedly..He said it on many occasions..Then say he mispoke..No he spoke from his core beliefs. He lost because he sucks as a politician..He didn't even contest Massachuettes, where he was governor and did so many wonderful things, from what he says! 47 in the nation in job creation but he as the president would be the great job creator..too funny!
Yeah!! And don't forget about Obama being born in Kenya and hiding his muslim religion. Those are some facts and truths that certainly got swept under the rug. I don't know why the repubs didn't go after these facts and truths more vigorously. They seemed to be fairly silent on both of these issues. Where the hell was fox news when you need them? I swear to God Romney could've won if they would have just stayed on message and let Donald Trump do his thing. That guys rich and knows what he's talking about. Oh yeah, and my guns. I know Obamas coming soon. He didn't get'em in this term (why I don't know) but he's got four years to get'em now.
If that was a Poe, not too bad.
well said. obama lies so much and is fluent in doing so that it sounds like iceing on the cake. and over half of the country bought into it. good luck paying high gas prices over the next 4 years. that includes spilling over into higher food prices and everything else. the stock market is tanking already. get ready for a worse economy
You know, you can see all of Romney/Ryan's lies side by side on Youtube if you wanted, but I'm guessing you don't care about the truth. What are all the lies that Obama told? I'm holding my breath, so hurry back....
"good luck paying high gas prices over the next 4 years."
Ummm... gas prices are function of the free market, a fundamentally Republican pillar of virtue. And BTW: Even if another 5 Prudhoe Bay sized discoveries were made today, it would have no (as in 0, nil, nada, zip) impact on gasoline prices over the next 4 years. Econ 101 and basic oil industry reality.
"the stock market is tanking already. get ready for a worse economy"
You make it sound like the stock market is a rational predictor of the future. It is not and if you actually studied it, you would know that. It is most often unduly impacted on speculation, rumor, and fear. Right now, you are seeing "fiscal cliff" jitters. If Repubs would actually come to the table in good faith (Dems as well) and actually stop playing games and get down to the business of addressing both spending and taxes rather than "who has the biggest yoo-hoo", you would be amazed how quickly it would stabilize.
I'm not even going to dignify the "Obama lies" portion of your rant.
Ryan's all cut no investment and pray for the private sector (John Gault?) to save us plan was in no way practical NOR did it truly address our problems. You want to cut government spending? Let's try not going to war all the time. Why don't we stop spending billions keeping black and latino boys incarcerated. Ryan and the all austerity, no sacrifice for the rich, even the filthy unbelievably rich, way of thinking is no way to move our country forward and it SANK the GOP.
I dont think, you uderstand, how to , use commas.
I think the problem for Republicans is that have demonized blacks, lations and women, yet still expect these groups of people to vote for them. Their is so much hate on that side. Really, they probably just need some hugs
They would pick your pocket while you were hugging them.
Nice racist reply.
That's why people chose Obama over Romney. If Romney had won, his more or less moderate views would have been immediately overshadowed by Ryan's crazy right-winger budget and nutcase agenda.
This article, like many articles that have appeared on CNN.com since the election, including statements directly from the White House and from political leaders has done nothing to bring this country together. Everything has remained in "attack mode" and I have seen nothing to indicate there is any sincerity on trying to heal our nations division. The really sad thing is that American citizens are getting exactly what they deserve because we complain about it, then we put up with it. The condition our country is in only proves that advanced education, wealth or eloquence does not qualify someone as a good "leader." Our leaders are not "leading" right now, they are just out for a stroll all by themselves.
we would all like to see a sane and loyal Republican Party
Why would CNN want that division to heal? Their big money is in reporting that division and exploiting it and making it worse. The more hate they create, expand, stir up, etc means they get juicier and juicier stories to report. I don't think Obama's election is the end of the world, I just don't believe he truly understands how businesses operate and all his ridiculous regulations will only further drive our economy down. We will reach Great Depression level unemployment before his term is over. After all, we're at 15+% now in real unemployment. Once Obamacare goes into effect and thousands are laid off to avoid the insane penalties and fees we will see 20%+ unemployment again.
Romney/Ryan were not a very good choice in many respects but I believe the economy would have been better off in the long run. America will survive, hopefully, but things will get very tight for the next 4 years.
According to GOP – anything bad happening in ANY corner of the world no matter how remote – is ALWAYS caused by the-most-recent-Dem-president- in -the -WH!
Ryan did not hurt Romney, it was all the left wing media and lies that hurt their chances and i hope that president Barry fills all of your liberal needs!!!!!!!
OMG, another right wing excuse. Blaming the election on the media now. Whats the next excuse.
You republican trash are pathetic....
You democratic trash are pathetic....
hate much???
Please tell us what those lies were? With proof, please.
Don't worry T.W.A. he will. Like Healthcare, and a roof over our heads and food in our stomachs. ALL those things that Romney thinks are just for the rich. BTW, the healthcare bill was something that Republicans wanted to do for decades, bring more people into the pool so it increases the coffers of the insurance companies and spreads out the risk. They only rejected it when President Obama, based on Romney's model, got behind it. Word for today children is, "Pathetic". In a sentence. When the GOP tired everything that they could to make this president fail it was PATHETIC, and in my opinion borderline Treasonous!
Right on
I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis. And the lieing and sabotage . . . and treason by the republican tea partiers hasn't stopped yet. The question is: will the responsible republicans – the ones that still remain, take back their party now and help re-establish sanity to the land? Stay tuned . . . . if not we will be going after their majority in the House big time in 2014!
Here's a tissue. Keep Crying.
Don't you people ever realize that when you keep blaiming other people instead of the ones that need blaming that you are showing your true colors. the republican party has become the nuts party.
Isn't TWA the name of the world reknown airline that thrived during the 1950's and 1960s, but fell apart during the deregulations of the Reagan Administration? It is time to let Ronald Reagan pass. Obama is making the United States strong again.
The republican opponents in the primary did far more damage than the left wing media. Remember the video "when mitt romney came to town"?
Not 5, not 6, but 7, count 'em 7 exclamation points.
Wow, you must ascribe to the page from the Republican playbook that if you repeat a lie often enough and loud enough, it is the truth.
. . . . . infamously stated by Hitler's Propaganda Minister, Joseph Goebbels: "Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." and "The bigger the lie the more they will believe it."
The "47%" comments, in my opinion, is clearly what doomed the Romney campaign. Many people do not trust what politicians say, but in that secretly filmed clip we got to see what Romney really thinks of average Americans – minorities and whites – and they were offended. And, he continues talking in this theme with his "gifts" that he claims Obama has given. The GOP has blanketed lower and middle class people with the label that they want "things". They don't want things; they just want a fair chance to build and maintain their own lives.
Looks like the 47% brought friends
No, Romney doomed himself. Ryan didn't help, not one little bit and no one wanted him a heartbeat away from the Oval Office, but Romney alone lost. Ryan was just gravy.
ryan is a disgrace to my generation.
AMEN TO THOSE REMARKS.
Obama has four more years to prove the progressive economic theory. Thank you progressives for your total commitment to ideology and rejection of leadership and financial competence.
Just come out of your coma when Bush left office?
What I really need to know is where to rank Paul Ryan with the other bonehead GOP VP candidates: Palin and Quayle.
Palin and Quayle didn't stand a chance at becoming nominated for president. Ryan, on the other hand, just might.
"And instead of championing job-creating solutions, Republicans were left to salivate over monthly employment numbers looking for any sign of weakness and expressing disappointment when the jobs picture continued to improve."
The gop wasn't just salivating over negative domestic economic news as innocent bystanders... Congressional republicans did everything they possibly could to further damage the US economy from the very second they regained control of the House of Representatives in 2010 up until the 2012 election and they were actually successful in getting our nation's credit rating UNNECESSARILY downgraded for the first time in history!!! These ignorant trash actually thought that a majority of Americans wouldn't see through this pathetic little strategy of domestic economic sabotage entirely in the interest of having something to blame President Obama for during the 2012 election...
Today's gop is nothing but a cult full of religious & ideological extremists that has no place in the 21st century... RIP (i.e. Rot In Pieces) GOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly. Thank you.
Ryan didn't doom Romney. the GOP platform appealing to the far right religious conservatives and old boy white club doomed Romney. It's very refreshing to see that this country has turned a corner in regards to social responsibility.
Amen and hallelujah!
My vote had nothing to do with Ryan. Romney himself was enough for me to go the other way.
GOP like a an airliner hijacked by con men trying to terrorize pasengers with doomsday scenario! The helpless competent crew without support had no choice but to let them takeover w/disastrous consequences!! Does that about cover what happened?! Aren't U glad the terrorist got overwhelmed & capture so the competent crew & passangers can now breathe a sigh of relief !!!
We all paid our attention to our intelligence briefings: "GOP determined to attack targets within the U.S."
Romney was a lying pandering flip-flopper....and apparently the majority of Americans caught on to his b.s. Regardless of who is running mate was, Romney would still be a lying pandering flip-flopper....HE DOOMED HIMSELF.
once a liar always will be a liar. romney and ryan two pathological liars at the highest level. sore losers , hypocrites, racists, immigrants haters,no integrity, dignity, honesty and most of all ni human dignity , NONE,. how do you liars expect to win an election? hahah
You give me the distinct impression you don`t like Romney or Ryan, am I right?
Bottom line: Brand Romney was inauthentic and people will not buy inauthentic brands.
The Reps are out of touch with We the People. They are a bunch of scared old men who get together and talk about family values and better times, then go out with the 47% and the gifts those who voted for the Dems got. And they blame everybody else for their shortcomings. Truly a sad state of affairs for the Party of Lincoln.
Neither Lincoln nor Teddy Roosevelt (the two best Republican Presidents) would be a republican today, and both would be extremely chagrined and embarassed by what their beloved party has become and the moral depths to which it has sunk.
The GOP will blame Romney for this debacle. But in truth they doomed him from the start. They made him stand on the corner in a clown suit with a sandwich board that read, "I will support the GOP platform, no matter how crazy."
Love it!
His concession speech was to the GOP, not to us.
The GOP platform is all smoke and mirrors. Yes they support extreme positions but only because those are the folks with the deepest pockets. If they throw them a bone, like no rights for women, then they can push what they really want. No Capitol Gains taxes. I'm not sure if Mitt meant to tell us that but he did.
On the 60minutes interview he told us that's how he made all his money last year. Then at the final debate he told us his plan included "zeroing out" Capitol Gains taxes. He looked that woman right in the eye and confirmed he will never pay his fair share.
No Romney lost this all on his own.
You are so correct on the capital gains taxes, really, I think that is the only reason Romney wanted to be President, so that he could protect the one thing he loves above all else, his money.
Writing off 47% of Americans was a bad idea, just simply saying I could have probaly worded it better was not enough. What they fail to understand those 47% have allies and friends. If Romney and Ryan would spend more time developing and selling their plan for America, instead they spent most of the time telling me what they thought Obama was not doing, then maybe I would take a second look.
I don't agree with some of Paul Ryan's economic ideas, but he was a better VP candidate than Romney was a Presidential candidate.
I disagree. Ryan has backwards ideas, about abortion, etc. And his medicare reform, budget ideas are just awful! I am glad those two did not win, I was actually a bit worried on electiion day. So much that I called everyone I knew in Florida and Colorado and asked them to vote for Obama, and to call everyone they knew. I voted for Obama just because the race was so tight, I was initially planning to throw my vote away because I do not like the job Obama is doing. The GOP will never win if they keep letting the far right run the show.
LIARS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. RAYAN. ROMNEY HAHAHAH
One thing I will give the Romney campaign credit for.. unlike McCain, when they found out their vp pick was more of a liablility than the asset they hoped.. they hid him from the public. Paul Ryan on his part did a great job avoiding media and in the few instances he talked to "local media" he would walk out when the question didn't fit his agenda.
Ryan turned out to be the boy who was raised in a wealthy family, then when his father passed away, he used the system to his advantage, letting Social Securtiy pay his way. Once he used the government to his advantage he turned againest that which helped him and decided others should not have the same advantages he had. Instead he chose to tell people to "ask your parents" for help.. even though he never once asked his family for help.. he relied on the government.
I agree. And Ryan wanted to keep his mom on medicare but cancel the program for those 54 and younger. Yeah, he is a guy who likes to take from the government but does not want others doing the same.
I know someone whose mother is on medicare and yet she is against "Obamacare" – does she not understand that Medicare is "Obamacare for seniors"?
blah blah blah. All this article tells us is someone is threatened by Ryan being a potential 2016 candidate so they want to try to discredit him now. Give it a rest already.
lol, having Ryan as the republican nominee in 2016 is like a "wet dream" for us liberals. Bring it on, he was able to avoid alot of hard questions while the Romney camp hid him away. Face it, the tea party forced Mitt to pick the ultra right winger and he failed.
Ryan has no shot of becoming the GOP nominee. They want nothing to do with a loser who was a big albatross around the last nominee's neck.
Some people have NO shot at the Presidency.....and you can tell in the first 2 minutes. Paul Ryan as leader of the free world???? He just doesn't have the "it" factor.
I hope Ryan is the nominee in 2016, and better yet, that he picks Santorum as his running mate.
We will then ensure another 4 years under a democrat president.
Keep selecting these far right folks, GOP, because I personally want to see the democrats in the WH for a long time!
No one believed that Eddie Munster ran a marathon in under 3 hours. Why should they believe any of his bunk?
Romney was not doomed by his choice of VP. Romney was doomed the moment he abandoned his moderate roots and kowtowed to the ultraconservatives.
A lot of people who voted for Obama didn't like Obama. They just picked the lesser of 2 evils. Someone who they know what they are getting, vs someone who seems to change at the drop of a hat to gain whatever advantage he can.
How's that stock market doing now that we know Obama is in charge the next four years? We ain't seen nothing yet. Nothing like four more years of recession. Whoopie!
Hey dimbulb...
The stock market is showing its nervousness about the impending Jan 1 "fiscal cliff" unless your boys get their act together and come to the table in a spirit of actually developing solutions rather than playing "my hoo-hoo is bigger than yours."
I think it is very american and patriotic to wish for the economic collapse of our country. Maybe you can hope for a disease that makes all americans sick and unable to work? Maybe you woulld like for Russia to nuke us, just so you can laugh and say that Mitt was right? My gawd, you people are true losers and just don't get it.
Let's see, would that be the stock market that is up 6000 points under President Obama?
Republicans are quite amusing – not as crazy as the Christians with their fantasy Santa Claus in the sky, but pretty close.
No Obamma did not fail us that's why we have 4More years , but Romney sure Failed you!!!!!!!!!!!
GET OVER IT...The better MAN won!!!
To quote author Rick Bragg's grandmother, "One of the advantages of growing old is that you can lie like a Republican."
Romney lost the election for Romney.
Rick you need to turn off Fox and get around the news dial-You are like Romney -a bunch of gerneralities and no facts-If you are thinking of Benghazi -it was the Republicans who vetoed a bill-led by Ryan-to fund security at the embassies just about a month before the attack-Fortunately no one had to lie about Romney -his own words did hiim "Corporations are people to" 47% etc-he was a flawed candidate-He never related to the average American and we rejected him
This is a totally biased piece. A campaign piece by a committed liberal person. I even voted for Obama, and can see the bs put forth here. I would go one by one on their supportive "facts" to debunk them, but what a waste of time. I agree with the fact that people didn't trust Paul Ryan, and that hurt Romney. But the facts given here in support of the reasoning are shady.
A waste of time supporting your position? Uh, no. Otherwise, like the "supportive facts" you wanted to debunk, you just end up looking like a tool yourself for failing the same goal.
She works for a liberal think tank and it says so in the byline. Read before you post.
Matt... you're not making yourself look good with this post.
I know a troll when I smell one! And you did not vote for Obama. Give it up troll. Romney – Ryan lost. You can't deprive Obama of another re-election because he can't run again. Get over it. Stop the lying and the rest of the Republicans – you need to get on board with helping the Democrats solve the nation's problems or we're going to wipe out your majority in the House in 2014. Stop the game playing and start helping to solve our myrad problems before its to late – in particular global climate change!
I think Ryan's comment re: the math adds up but it would take too long to explain it to you was all most people I know needed to set off their BS radar. If you cannot state your economic case to the American people in sixty seconds your economic case isn't going to get voted for, but to actually say "it's above the heads of the average voter" on TV will turn a lot of people against it. Ryan wasn't the problem, Romney wasn't the problem, the agenda was the problem, and they'll have to address it.
I wouldn't vote for anyone who relies on P-90X as their training regiment.
I tried my absolute best for at least a hundred hours to convince at least ONE voter that electing Romney was the same thing as giving George W. Bush a third term. If I succeeded in doing that, it was all worth it.
Everything said, it all shows mankind not qualified to rule itself as history traggically & overwhelmingly bears repeating!! Keep praying the Lords prayer "thy kingdom(gov.) come." Only real hope to regain paradise lost & that's the rest of the story!!
I kicked you out of Eden and I don't make mistakes. The land has been sold to Walmart so move along.
I find it interesting that Romney talks of "gifts" to minorities, but not a word was spoken about how much government subsidies the oil companies receive. If you want to reduce the size of government, or the tax burden on those who "pay" taxes, why not eliminate subsidies like those of the oil companies? I never hear republicans promoting this as a way to reduce the size of government. The republicans will continue to have problems at the national level if they continue to bemoan the lower to middle class as the bain (no pun intended) of our society, without addressing other areas that also drain resources through the government.
Romney doomed himself. I am glad that the video recording about his "47%" comment went public. It showed Romney's true side. It showed that he did not give a darn about the American people. The comments that he continues to say about "the gifts" are also very troubling. Even though the majority of the people that voted for Romney believe they are not part of this 47%, or show disdain towards the 47%, in reality they are part of this 47% even if they do not acknowledge the truth.
You mean promising to reduce capital gains taxes to zero isn't a policy vision for the future of the country?
There's a lot of reasons the GOP lost, and like Haley Barbour said, only a proctology exam will get to the heart of the problem. But, the GOP isn't interested in introspection. They're too busy making excuses.
When you have your head up firmly in yourASS, it is a good time to take a look around.
Well..........How should I say this?...........YES!!!!!! Hahahahhaahahaahah
I just love it when a 'con' goes bad, and all the players blame each other. Ryan now has plenty of good things to say about Romney as he lies under the bus, eh! The Republicans (Romney) tried to 'con' the American public and it didn't work. Good for the American voter and now let's hope in 2014 the con job of the tea party will finally pass away so the real old GOP comes back bigger and stronger.
The GOP has turned into the party of hate and fear. Rush, Trump, Beck, Coulter and Fox have all contributed and each is busy trying to out hate the others.
Yawn. For the thousandth time:
It's not the candidate. It's not the inability to get the message out.
It's the party platform. People know that the Republican Party's policies don't benefit them in any way, and they're voting accordingly.
On point.
Romney doomed himself. Ryan was just the icing on the cake. Message to Republicans: the problem is YOU, it is YOUR PARTY.
Not that people want free stuff.
More than half of America hates what you stand for.
Like I said the day after the election, when these "Republicans question why they lost the election" articles first started appearing ...
They'll come up with a wide variety of reasons, but none of them will be the right one!
"He ran away from his former positions on everything from health care to abortion to marriage equality."
I believe the term is FLIP-FLOPPED.
BP has paid out over $23 billion dollars to people of the gulf and the clean up, today they announce they will pay an additional $4 billion fine. Does anyone here believe that if Bush/Romney/Ryan were in charge that this amount would have been spent?
Republicans think most of America has ADD, apparently, and that we forget that it was Republican policy that got us into this mess in the first place. Here's a clue, repubs: WE DON'T.
They lost.....
You can't put half a tax plan in front of the American people and expect them to take it seriously. Saying you'll cut tax rates, and figure out how to pay for it after the election, was a bald faced attempt to bamboozle people, and they didn't fall for it.
Romney and Ryan were both liars with no compassion for the elderly or poor. They were both terrible picks.
I called up Obama before the election and asked for MY gift. I told him I wanted Dick Cheney's head on a pole. He passed. I voted for him anyway.
Mr Ryan, with his comments about his "sub-3 hour" marathon, showed that he is an unrepentant liar, who is too chickens–t to admit that he LIED, and come clean about it. That, frankly, showed me what kind of man he is, and it's not the kind we need in high office.
Maybe because the people are sick and tired of hearing: "Tax cuts for the rich to create jobs in India and China. Tax cuts for the rich to increase spending on the infrastructure. Tax cuts for the rich in increase spending on the military. Tax cuts for the rich to increase spending on education. Tax cuts for the rich to increase spending on citizens' well being. Tax cuts for the rich to fund........tax cuts for the rich!!!!!!!!!!"
COULD THAT BE IT??????????? Hahahahahahahahhahaha
The glaring change in the voting landscape caused by the GOP's exclusionary social agenda is what lost them the presidency. Gallup and Rasmussen pointed that out with extraordinary clarity by their failed attempt to paint Romney as a plausible candidate through maintenance of 1996 – 2004 demographic sampling estimates. Young women and Latinos came out in force to vote against Romney because they were terrified of radical social attacks. Those are the voters who made the difference between a Bush presidency and an Obama one.
A well-argued essay. The GOP is still pointing fingers at everyone but their own extremists–who are exactly the people pushing exactly the policies that turned off centrist voters. Centrists have seen years of hate rhetoric, anti-science, gay- and immigrant-bashing, poor bashing (still going on in the bread-and-circus nonsense), pandering to the wealthy...the list goes on and on. As long as the GOP keeps doubling down on failed social and economic policies, they'll need to continue inciting anger and hatred in order to keep their base mobilized. But that's exactly what's happening now with (geesh!) the secession movement and the move-to-Canada movement. The GOP has become a bunch of brats.
The GOP has turned into the Hate and Fear Party with the likes of Rush, Trump, Beck and Coulter as their spokespersons, each of who is trying to out hate and out fear the other for ratings. The GOP is sick and needs an enema.
They'll just have to triple down in 2016. At least maybe they'll make the bubble a little larger this time.
Isn't is profoundly obvious as this point that if the Republicans want a chance in any presidential election going into the future, that they're going to have to become more socially liberal? Telling women you're pro-life and the decision in Roe v. Wade is in jeopardy, is not exactly the way to win-over women. And considering we're 50% of the population, you people should start caring. Threatening to take away liberties we've come to enjoy is the quickest way to make sure you seize to exist. Become okay with pro-choice, gay marriage, marijuana and any other issue people make in their private lives, and you'll have a chance.
Don't you understand? That would take all of the fun out of the election for them!
I really think Romney was too moderate (and Mormon) for many Republican voters, while Ryan was too extreme for moderate Republican voters, and so they really doomed each other to defeat.
Romney doomed Romney.
He opened his mouth.
The BEST and most succinct advice I can give to Republicans is: "When you've got your head firmly up yourASS it is a good time to take a look around".
as far as Ryan, he should not be posing for pictures for the P90X poster boy. it was a political mistake. I voted for Romney, but that was a stupid move. when i first saw that, I thought wow w t f are you doing, the opposition is going to eat you up. Bad taste as a candidate running for office.
@sxs: to what end? He still wouldn't get it....
No one in today's culture likes someone who believes in the old way of "making do with what we have" thinking that Ryan often would speak of during the campaign, regarding ways to lower the deficit – that "make do" way of thinking was accepted during the depression era of the 1930's, and even during the severe recession of the 1970's, but not today, when family cell phone and cable bills are often over $500 a month (more like $1,000 combined), and most want the next new gadget to be marketed – even if they can't afford it – perhaps it's us that are doomed, and not the failed campaign...
Romney doomed Ryan!
And WHY are we listening to someone's analysis from the LIBERAL Center for American Progress?
Newsflash: Ryan is the SOLE and ONLY reason that the Conservative base was remotely excited about Romney in the FIRST PLACE. Oh, they mostly would have turned out to vote against Obama due to his infringements upon them (Obamacare, threatened tax increases and energy policy), but Ryan gave them a reason to vote FOR the ticket.
"sole and only" is redundant. Makes you sound uneducated.
When will Rethuglicans stop making excuses?
This goes way beyond Romney and Ryan.
The GOP has been painting itself into a corner for the past 30 years.
And now the GOP is finally trapped in this corner with no way out.
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I think his selection of Ryan as his running mate was the final blow to any chances that Romney could be elected. I don't see how Ryan can call himself a Roman Catholic when he shows little or no regard for the poor and only wants to improve the situation of rich men in America. Also, both Romney and Ryan told some big whoppers during the campaign–they just didn't appeal to the average person in America. I'm so glad that President Obama's major focus is on building up the middle class in America–we are the MAJORITY. That's why Obama won and won big, not because of "gifts" Romney claims Obama has given out. Romney will never come to the realization that he was too out of touch with the struggles of most Americans to explain his major defeat! Also, I personally don't appreciate his wife's cutting remarks about President Obama. I doubt that woman has ever worked a day in her life!
Ryan was the greatest gift of all. By scaring the hell out of women and seniors he delivered the presidency to Obama . To make it worse he wrapped in packaging of disregard to the 79% that live in urban areas. Romney backed him to the hilt and is sill doing so. Fantasy still rules the GOP.
Republican ideologies are for the most part obsolete. If they (The Republicans) wish to stay in this game and actually be relevant in today's world, they need to look at the American people in its entirety and come up with an honest game plan which considers every American as important and playing a part in making America, a great country.
At the moment, the Republican ideology seems brittle, uncompromising and limiting.
It is important to take a stance on issues and to have a set of core beliefs. But, in the end, adaptation is not only key to survival but also to thrive. And has time moves forward, revisiting core beliefs and adapting them to the time is just as important.
The republican party needs to look inside their core beliefs, and then look outside at the American people and make some serious and honest adjustment about their image and what their party represents and how to regain the people's trust in their agenda.
If they stick to the current game plan they have, they will eventually be drifting to obsolescence.
I may not agree with everything Obama stands for, but he's a leader. In that sense, he has goals, he knows what he wants and he knowns how to plan to get there, he can at least explain the means to get the job done.
Ok, sometimes, things don't go as planned, after all, it's huge country and its not like every issue and situation is 100% under his control. But, whether you agree with him or not, at least, he leads. Right or wrong, he actually takes a stand on an issue.
And he does care about the people under his charge. That's very important. Its more than just politics and being in power. Its actually serving the people who put their trust in him.
Obama's biggest problem is that he's not able to work with the other party as well as Bill Clinton did. Is it that he's a bad leader? or are the Republicans not doing their part? Judging from the media, Republicans like to block things regardless of reasons or consequences. In a nutshell, if they had been in power, they may have come up with the same solution, but, because it's the other party, they choose to oppose it. Because they can... Illogical but hey, who ever said politics and logic mixes?
Mitt Romney's campaign was all about deceits and misdirection. He didn't stand for anything. Always flip-flopping on issues and basically for the most part, using strategies in the campaign which were often pure lies and fabrication. I was appalled at that. I wasn't surprised however, because he didn't lead. He had no clear plan for the goals he wanted to achieve and didn't describe how he would do so.
Coming up with numbers and goals and not explaining how to get there, is not leadership. With leadership comes accountability. They don't need to do much soul searching as to why they lost this election. It's simple. They didn't go into this election with the intention of winning it based on merit. They went there thinking they would win based on lies and deceits.
I think that when the next election comes, whoever has a real honest game plan and who can campaign there way to an election by the strength of their vision, their plan and their strategies for solving the countries issues, instead of using negative tactics to discredit their opponent, will be the real winner and so will the people who elected them.
no boby but romney to blame, bottom line. american people has no integrity, dignity, values, no morals and honesty . the right speaks about family values, hahaha we all lie sometimes and we do so without people knowing unlike romney and raya the do it everyday on tv , hahahah these people has sons , daughters and grand childrens hahahah talk about family values. hahah
Romney doomed himself every time he spoke.
Not true. Ryan was a non-factor. Mitt and the entire GOP killed their own campaign. Mitt is still saying dumb things even after the election, which shows you how far out of touch the entire GOP really is for the WORLD, not just Americans. LOL. The sad part of about the entire things is...for 2 elections in a row, the GOP cannot even muster up a viable candidate or VP. Wow!
I didn’t vote for Mr. Romney for the same reason I did not vote for John McCain. Both candidates chose running mates who were unqualified to be a heartbeat away from becoming President of the United States. In business you groom subordinates to be ready to move into your position; it’s called succession planning. McCain came from the military, where succession planning is a rule that all live by. Romney came from a business background where succession planning is required. Yet, neither candidate applied this to the selection of their running mates, choosing the unqualified, when there were plenty of very qualified possibilities.
Romney is a liar and a phony and it showed.
I couldn't believe McCain's poor judgment in selecting Palin.
I couldn't believe Romney's poor judgment in selecting Ryan.
Both demonstrate how non inclusive the white men Republican Party is.
I'm embarrassed to be of the same generation as Ryan. Didn't he learn anything?
NO! ROMNEY doomed Romney.
Romney lost because:
1. He alienated everyone except white straight right leaning males.
2. Paul Ryan is a total wreck with his Ayn Rand philosophies.
3. Romney knows absolutely nothing about foreign policy.
4. Obama HAS improved things here over the last 4 years- the only reason the GOP was so desperate to win is because they are smart enough to see a major recovery right around the bend and they wanted their boy to take credit when it happens (protip: This is exactly what Reagan did- the recovery he oversaw had nothing to do with him being in office.)
i wonder if romney can run for president at planet kolob
intelligent thought out remark
In 2008 McCain made a huge mistake in picking Palin. Not sure if he would have won with a different running mate, but still. IN 2012 Romney made another colossal mistake in picking Ryan, a man who is not even popular enough in his home state to carry it for the ticket! Romney should have picked Rubio, and he would have won the election. Full stop.
I'm not so sure – Obama won a large share of the younger Miami Cubans too, a first for a Dem.
I voted for Obama, but just like in '92 for Bush/Quayle, I did not have a problem with their team leading the country. I just had a problem with the people who supported them. Romney and Ryan have all of the good intentions to lead this country, but they had to carry the "extremist" mantle that has repeated pushed me away since Obama was elected in '08. IMO, neither Romney or Ryan are not to blame. It is the people that they represented and being forced to express their views.
My take Andre – Ryan was the right man, Romney the wrong man. Indeed the Republican primary was a game of musical chairs with Mr. Romney the last man standing (or sitting as the game goes). He had enough money to buy the nomination, but not enough to buy the presidency. He was never the republicans "choice" candidate and we also learned he was not American's choice either. The Republican party does not need reinvented, as many other articles have indicated, it needs the gumption to choose the right candidate.
I don't understand. "Pick the right candidate"? What does that mean? With the Republican party's platform, there is no such thing as the "right candidate" There is NO right candidate without party reform. This is not a boxing match (pick the right opponent so we have a chance to win). The party platform needs to change, not the candidates. Get your head out of your butt.
Calling for cuts in Pell grants won't exactly win over the youth vote, as the article correctly states. I knew if the younger people turned out, he would have a hard time b/c of that and gay marriage.
Ryan is the symptom not the disease. The Tea/Republican platform as a whole is out of touch with the majority of Americans.
We The People has spoken . . . We do not want the antiquated republican leadership period. CAN YOU HEAR US NOW?
Ryan: "The numbers we were looking at looked like we stood a pretty good chance of winning," talk about being delusional
Ryan didn't help Romney, but it was Romney that doomed Romney. At least Ryan had the guts to say Obama won it "fair and square". Romney doesn't have a political compass. He tries to follow the wind, which would be OK except he doesn't know which way the wind blows. He left blaming Obama for buying 53% of the American vote. It couldn't possibly be that he's an inept politician the majority can see through.
One duty of an executive is to be involved in the hiring of subordinates. The Chief Executive should be able to select the best candidate for vice president; clearly, both Romney and McCain proved that they were not capable of making good hiring decisions. Perhaps the GOP would be wise not to select VP candidates based on looks, in the future...
Has long that the Republican Control Congress doesn't try and Compromise and really listen to the American people ,than President Obama will have a hard time getting thing done. What need to be done In 2014 Is get the Control of Congress out of Republican control and than he will get thing done. John Boehner and Eric Cantor have all the Republican In Congress to protect the Rich. All you hear Is the Republican have learn from this pass election ,but really they are till not learning or listening to the American people at all.
Romney doomed Romney!
It didn't have anything to do with Ryan. The American people wanted what Obama was promising.
Let us check in with Mr. Ryan in 30+ years, when he is not so fit, closer to Medicare age. We all get old, Honey. We all start falling apart. You will have retirement and govt coverage we pay for (didnt hear you mention cutting that out of the budget , Hypocrite). BUT you will be more familiar with the havoc you tried to cause since you are young and clueless.
Forget about the extremists on both sides.
To win the election, it is necessary to win the middle.
Ryan pushed the ticket away from the middle way to the right. Were it not for the anti-Obama votes, the Republican loss would have rivaled that of George McGovern in 1972.
Eddie Munster couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it. I'm sick and tired of these folks who want to destroy the line between church and state, restrict women's rights, stop planned parenthood funding, etc.
I was happy to vote for Obama again, but unfortunately a few too many Eddie Munsters were re-elected right along with him. I'm surprised and was hoping these right wing nutjobs would be sent packing for good and yes Eddie, that means you too.
Romney and Ryan failed to realize the biggest problem they had – that being Romney and Ryan.
Obama is far from perfect, but given Romney's shell game on the street corner, will all the peas going to the rich – well, that made the election pretty easy to predict.
The only real surprise here is Romney thinking he was going to win!
Normally, I vote my pocketbook. But all the pandering to the religious right was frightening and a deal breaker.
Finally, I had to ask myself, "Who do I want picking the next Supreme Court justices?"
Americans run the gamut in terms of educational status, of course, but politicians in general, and Republicans, specifically, show great contempt for the minds of the electorate with their platform and choice of candidates. Big people talk about ideas and small people talk about other people.
It wasn't a loss. Half of the voters for Obama went against there beliefs and standards to vote themselves not racist. Guess what? That makes them racist. The voucher system is just one system that guarantees the payee their money will be there when it is time to collect. As the idots running the place move towards a forced immigration discussion, the immigrants need to understand they come with nothing in the medicare SS bank. Obama who acts like an immigrant, you know walk, talk quack must be! Is all for bringing in people who don't know quack about responsibility but if you were responsible for your own voucher it would change several minds wouldn't it! We who voted for Mitt voted for sound principle laced government, not we'll see what develops poop.
Take your delusion elsewhere troll. It was a loss and it was a mandate for the issues Obama ran on and no amount of denial, and practicing the "big lie" technique will change that. Begone, troll, you have no power here!
Republicans are nothing spoiled brats. All they cry why they lost even the Pope could not get catholics to vote for the two wimps.
TO WIN ELECTIONS #1 Fire Plebus. #2 Hire Steele. #3 Stop treating women as possessions. #4 NEVER never use trickle down analogy again, #5 Stop starting wars. #6 Cut off the T party cancer. #6 Try telling the truth sometimes.
This article is plainly biased. President Obama did give "gifts" that helped him win the election. Most notably, he offered what could be called amnesty for the children of illegal aliens. He did this 4 months before the election after promising four years prior that he would make immigration reform a priority. He also accelerated the student loan forgiveness law to apply to 2012 graduates and publicly fought for lowering the rate on undergraduate student loans. He also pushed for an extension of the payroll tax cut, which was a gift to all working families. I'm not arguing the policy sensibility of these gifts, but to mock Mitt Romney's claims, as if these gifts did not occur, is ridiculous.
Do you realize that there is massive Pell grant fraud? "Studenst" get their pell grant money, but never show up for class. It costs tax payers millions of dollars per year. Do you realize that the average Medicare recipient spends 3 X more than they contribute to the system–the rest borrowed from China. Do you really not think these programs need massive reform?
Romney could have never picked Ryan and he still would not have won. Romney hung himself and picking Ryan did not help an already painful situation. Romney was the one who kept contradicting himself. Romney was the one who kept saying stupid things and then claiming he didn't say them. Romney is the one who insulted women, minorities, and just humans in general. Romney was a bad candidate to begin with, but the sloppiness of his campaign didn't help him one bit. Ryan was icing on the cake though. Niether one of them would answer questions in a way that made sense. And Ryan had some very prehistoric ideas about women that didn't help either. The whole thing was sloppy, ill-concieved, and just plain stupid.
I think just two weeks after the election is too early to be discussing why Romney lost and Obama won. Should be done in sx months. Questions to ask include: what role did the media play in shaping the outcome; how were funds raised and how were they spent; what was the impact of seemingly trival issues like Big Bird, what was the impact of comments by other GOP candidates on the voters.
@buba
Let's all meet back here two years from now. Should be interesting to see how different the unemployeement rate will be (IF IT FOLLOWS THE SAME PATH ITS BEEN ON WE SHOULD BE DOING MUCH BETTER)
. The economy, the stock market, Obama Care and it's effects?? Somehow I have a feeling that not much is going to change or get better with 4 more years of the same. (INTERESTING THAT WALL ST UNANIMOUSLY BACKED ROMNEY, I BET IT WAS BECAUSE OF HIS STANCE ON WOMENS RIGHTS, OH... WAIT)
(THE DEFICIT REDUCED, BIN LADEN GONE, IRAQ WINDING DOWN, TAX BREAKS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, CRACKING DOWN ON CORPORATE CORRUPTION, IN WHAT WAYS WAS THE LAST 4 YEARS, "THE SAME"?)
(ALSO, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "OBAMACARE" AND "ROMNEYCARE"? – THE SPELLING, OH, BUT, ONE OF THEM IS THE IDEA OF A BLACK MAN SO IT MUST BE BAD, RIGHT?)
But, than again, I guess you will say that it was Bush's fault and that Obama needs more time. (OK WELL GEORGE W DID LEAVE BARACK WITH THE BIGGEST DEFICIT IN NATIONAL HISTORY, AFTER SQUANDERING THE BIGGEST SURPLUS IN NATIONAL HISTORY LEFT TO HIM BY BILL CLINTON, THESE ARE JUST FACTS, WHY DON'T REPUBLICANS ACKNOWLEDGE FACTS? ALSO OBAMA IS STILL NOT A MUSLIM)
I suppose that Hilary will blame the last 8 years on Bush as well when she runs in 2016.
(POSSIBLY, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING THE DEMOCRATS ARE THINKING FORWARD, ABOUT OUR FUTURE, REPUBS WANT TO REGRESS BACK TO AMERICA CIRCA 1948)
You Libs should be happy that you belong to the lucky sperm club. What would the country be like if Gore would have won in 2000? (WELL GORE DID ACTUALLY WIN, BUT I THINK WE'D BE JUST FINE)
As long as the Republicans continue to view minorities and the poor as freeloaders, they will continue to lose. As long as they wage war on women they will continue to lose. As long as they protect the rights billionaires over the middle class they continue to will lose. As long as they move farther right and embrace the religious fundamentalists they will lose. As long as they fail to grasp these facts they will lose.
Amen Larry! you are right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Republicans were way more of a downer then the Democrats this past election. It really didn't help their cause that they constantly alienated people by with name calling like socialist, commie, etc. Dark ages outlooks on women and people didn't help either from a few in their peanut gallery. Here's hoping they pick themselves up and do better next time and cut out all the extremists.
Romney's mistake was engaging with the clown parade in the Republican primaries. In retrospect, its laughable to think the likes of Michelle Bachman or Herman Cain would be nominated by a major party (or its donors) to run for president. By lowering himself into that muck - and in fact trying to out-crazy the crazies– Romney allowed himself to be painted into a corner as a right wing nut by Obama once he emerged as the nominee. Paul Ryan did not help or hurt on the margin. Nobody really cares about the VP nominee unless its a true lightning rod a la Sarah Palin. Certainly Ryan was inoffensive to centrists, which is where the election was lost. The problem was old Moderate Mitt the flip-flopper, whom the disaffected center may have embraced, had been swapped out for Mitt the right wing racist.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Ryan did hurt the ticket and was offensive to moderates. Romney was obviously a compulsive liar with no moral principles – except money and Ryan was a compulsive liar with extremist moral principles – anti-women, anti-GLBTQ, and anti-minorities. Together they bet that Americans were stupid and had no memories or analytical abilities. Fortunately they were only partially right!
Totally agree. The Republicans need to limit their debates to sane people. Once they allowed in Trump, Bachmann and rest, it become a nuthouse of weird ideas. But they will never learn and we can look forward to 2015-16 when Trump, Sarah Palin and the rest are back....Ugh....
The new GOP motto:
"When uncertain, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout."
The noose that's going to hang America is in the White House. Romney and Ryan would have uplifted this entire nation. Obama continues to divide this country. His press conference was all about I, I, I. Nothing about WE. He's a narcissist and manipulator, and wants to see us implode. I have no respect for him.
Modern conservatives don't tend to be "uniters" by any stretch. Obama is way more willing to compromise than his conservative counterparts.
Conservatives make efforts to unite – some more than others, but govern according to their principles – and yes, those do still exist. The point is Obama is a self-proclaimed, screaming into a microphone "not blue state – or red state, but United States" uniter. He's all hot air, and manipulative speech and most Americans fell for it. Try to honestly listen to what he says – and then observe what he does. See if they are anything remotely the same. Many times what he even says contradicts itself. Like the "uniter" talk, and then the press conference. He has no plan to work with Republicans – he's in a dictator mode – that should disturb Americans greatly.
You are delusional and have become addicted to the Fox News Cool-Aid. Time to go into treatment. There is a cure, fortunately – educate yourself and broaden your perspective and news sources!
Romney lost? Romney didn't win the Presidency, but coming in 2nd place for the highest office in the most powerful country in the world ain't bad. I'm not praising Romney (for the record, I voted for Obama), but we live in this funny context of only #1 wins. It's simply not true – especially in the U.S. political system. Romney's silver medal in the run for President will pay off for him in SO many ways (think how much he'll get paid for speaking engagements – not that he needs the money!).
Romney only got the boost he did because he started playing the moderate. He was only chosen for the Republican Party because he made very adamant stances on right-wing issues that he previously ,as a governor (and later on in the final debates), seemed almost liberal about. I don't think Romney is the monster he's imagined as, but he tries to pander to whichever audience is in his presence, and he never presented a single idea that wasn't demolished by the number crunchers. Being likeable doesn't make you a good leader, and personally a lot of us didn't even find him likeable.
After all the hate thrown at Obama, after all the "lets make this be a one term President" BS. After the Bozo Trump doing all he could do to bring this President down because of the color of his skin. The American People; mostly Black, Latino's and some whites; they had had enough and decided that, they would reelect President Obama President again. A note to the RepubliKKKans, there is a new sheriff in town and he is mostly Black and Brown. How you like them Apples?
You're spewing hate and it's not productive. We don't care about the color of people. We care about our economy and our national security above everything. But if you insist on bringing up race, Condoleeza Rice was the first female African American to ever hold the office of Secretary of State, and that was under President George W. Bush. Forgot that fact?
Spewing hate is all that the Republican Party has done for 2 years. They've held this country hostage, as they put getting Obama out of office over trying to fix the mess our last (and worst) President left us with.
@ Larry Obama was in office for the last four years – no one stood in his way – his agenda is the problem. Don't you know he spent more than any president ever ? That's why the economy isn't better. Why don't you hold him accountable, instead of voting him back into office?? It makes no sense.
No one stood in his way? You had a Republican lead House, blocking every effort for recovery. They were more concerned with winning the White House than helping restore our country from worst economic collapse since the depression. Romney wanted to put back in place the same failed polices that almost destroyed this country.
@ Larry What recovery policies of Obama are you referring to? Higher taxes? Taking from the rich to give to the poor? Obamacare – which has a stranglehold on businesses? Companies are laying off large amounts of employees every day since the election. It's all because Obama was re-elected. His policies are hurting America. Hold the man accountable – he's president for God's sake – and has been for four years. If he can't handle it, he needs to get out.
No one stood in his (Obama's) way? Just keep lying and deluding yourself. Republicans gave new meaning to the term obstructionism, both in the Republican controlled House in the last two years (including causing a downgrading of the US credit rating which in turn increased the interest rate on the entire US debt, which in turn actually significantly increaded the debt because of this interest rate hike – all to "make Obama a one-term President" (shameful, pathetic, and treasonous) and in the Senate (for all four past years) by their unprecedented abuse of the filibuster process. The Senate has the opportunity to amend the Senate rules during the first sitting of new Senate by a simple majority vote (not subject to the filibuster process). Watch for an end to republican abuse of the filibuster when the new Senate commences and the Democratic majority changes the Senate rules to halt the abuse of the filibuster process.
HOW AMERICA CONDEMNED ITSELF ...
Voters – voting Americans are simply not as smart or as intelligent as they once were ...
They don't know what's good for them ... thus the nation will fiscally fail by 2024 ... and the poor slobs will wonder why ...
In 2024 they will still be blaming Bush
Possibly, it might take decades to dig out from he and President Cheney's illegal second war and their corruption.
Ryan NEVER got a Obama foam. So, he couldn't call Romney much.
Actually Boehner is the cancer that's going to destroy this country. The big cry baby!
He hasn't wept in a while. I rather miss that.
Let's consider that most of the people who think Americans are stupid for electing Obama are still hoping he will be a one term President.
Touche! Bravo!
and obama has passed the smell test Puulease, and they are right he is playing Santa Clause and lets not forget the big fat present of obamacare
Romney is the reason why Romney lost. Ryan just didn't help.
Romney, who????, Ryan, who?????
McCains first executive decision was to choose Sarah. Oops.
Romneys first executive decision was to choose Lryan. OOPs.
Four years of that kind of leadership? No Thanks.
it is so funny that republicans are the party of hate, i have NOTHING but hate from the left since the election, bravo
I think you meant to say 'I have nothing but hate for the left since the election...'
i think i what I meant to say is that i have HEARD nothing but hate from the left, i mean read over these comments,NOTHING but hate filled comments.
What goes 'round, comes 'round. Suffer!
Romney doomed Romney. He's out of touch with reality and lives in his own little world. And that silly look on his face all the time. He's not to be trusted. He won't get elected again if he runs. His make believe church (as all are) isn't helping either with their magic underwear and fraudulent founder Joseph Smith.
Please name one republican president that did anything for the middle class since Teddy Roosevelt??? Then the republicans expect the middle class to fall all over them with their votes, an idiot would know better.
The republicans took away at least four seats they should have won by sheer stupidity-Missouri, Maine when they let Snowe leave because they took the NO side of everything, Indiana, and Wisconsin!~!!
Hate to break it to you, but Romney was doomed before his picked Ryan. It wouldn't have mattered who his running mate was. The GOP have hijacked and, paralyzed the government, by their house majority in steadfastly blocking every piece of legislation the DEMS have tried to pass – at the expense of the suffering American people. Their out-dated, ultra-conservative, right-wing-religion-tinted ideologies have made them pariahs in a country where things should be moving forward not backwards, and further they and they alone are responsible for ALL the policies that have lead to the financial and economic crises. Perhaps if the government was bigger and more regulated, you wouldn't have had a collapse of the real estate sectors, nor the outsourcing overseas of the manufacturing sectors. What might have worked temporarily under Reagan, doesn't apply today.
Your Sir are 100% correct and that's why I'm worried about the next 4 years.
This guy is right on the money, well said!
hey billdee why cant we outsource manufacturing, we outsourced the guarding of the embassies
The GOP and there efforts from the day after the results were announce from the 2008 election did everything within their power to 'show up' the office of the President and despite their best efforts to wreck the counrty – Obama did not let it happen. While Obama did not get what he wanted, he did not let the GOP wreck the country beyond repair.
their, there, that is not even a toughie like when to use who or whom
Has Ann Romney stopped crying?
Romney didn't need the additional help to torpedo his own boat, but Ryan didn't help,either.
Well, Ryan may have been a younger version of Mitt Romney...but his ideas were from the 50's. Old fashion ideas coming out of the mouth of a young man wasn't too hard to figure out. Some poster commented that Ryan looked like an Funeral Home director and that's ALL I could think of during the election.
Lying and changing his position over and over doomed Romney. The Republicans themselves are doomed as a party of hate.
Romney and Ryan lost because of their extreme views on abortion. Only 17-18% of the country shares those views. Republicans must have tunnel vision.
17 to 18% ? Did you knowingly type that statistical lie or do it out of sheer ignorance?
i love how people keep saying WE are they party of hate, I have seen nothing but hate filled comments all over the internet since the election
from the LEFT, your party is pretty hateful too so do not be too smug
Kow towing to the far right is what cost Romney the election, and selecting Ryan as his Veep choice was part of that strategy. The fact is, it was a close election in most locations. A modest shift farther to the middle would have made all the difference and Romney would have been elected. The far right was voting against Obama anyway, not for Romney who they disliked, so they weren't going to suddenly go vote for Obama. Ryan didn't look or act presidential, not enough seasoning, and his positions were highly polarizing.
He ran away from his former positions on everything from health care to abortion to marriage equality.
THIS..is what doomed Romney. He flipped back and forth on all the issues and got caught in bold face lies.
Fareed
As usual, you reveal yourself as the pseudo- intellectual you pretend to be. You know all to well that Paul Ryan had very little to do with Romney's defeat. A significant portion of our population is now addicted to the free treats POTUS is handing out and that fact alone is what determined the outcome. But of course, you already knew that.
Pathetic lyin' troll! It's over – don't you get it?
There were so many negatives with Romney that Ryan wasn't even on my radar. I think Ryan liked to shoot animals, but that's about all I knew about him.
Thank goodness Romney-Ryan didn't get in. They would have been Bush-Cheney on steroids.
What killed Romney was the excellent expose' in Rolling Stone regarding Mitt & Bain Capital, called Greed & Debt.
Really? *That's* what killed him? The fact that he alienated half the country and put many of them in second-class citizenship status had nothing to do with it? That article might be what killed him for you. The actual loss of the election was a liiiiiiiiittle bit more nuanced than that.
I was sitting in an airport coffee shop, waiting for the flight that would get me home after weeks in Europe (and weeks of listening to Poles tell me that they were very concerned about this dunderhead, who did not understand anything about any nation in Europe or the Middle East, getting near the White House), when I learned about Romney's decision to pair up with Ryan. I then knew precisely what kind of tone Romney was going to set – a tone of alienation, a tone of "we don't give a damn about your rights, you women and gays and ethnic minorities," a tone of "let's reject moderation and fire up the most rabid members of our club." Ryan was Romney's pick. Romney chose to set that tone, to pander to the extremists who are dragging his party into the grave. Blaming Ryan for Romney's loss is like blaming the bullet instead of the man who fired the gun.
I'll agree. Still it is very scary they still got 49% of the vote. The dumbing down of this country is real, just like climate change.
I think that 1% difference would be the people dumb enough to believe Obama was going to give them phones if he was voted in
Wow Steve – look whose dumb – you can't even do math. If Obama got 51% and Romney got 49% that would be what . . . nooo, not 1% – that would be a 2% difference!
Why do so many people who post here assume that someone is either a democrat or a republican based on their criticism of certain politicians? If someone makes a comment that is anti-Romney, people assume they're pro-Obama. If someone says something negative about Obama, they assume they're a Republican. Why does everything have to be so partisan?
Mitt Romney lost the election because he stands for nothing. It's a total repudiation by the American People. Mitt Romney bragged about being born in Michigan, No one ever asked him about his birth certificate: He lost Michigan
Romney was Governor of Massachussetts for 4 years: He lost Massachussetts
Romney made New Hampshire his home: He lost New Hampshire
Romney lost not only Wisconsin State but his VP Paul Ryan lost his own District.
Never a good thing to bet against the American People, you get humiliated by the number. Electoral Vote was 332 Vs 206. Do the Math or the Arithmetic that's what you call a Landslide!
And what exactly does Obama stand for? Narcissism? Ego? Marxism? Socialism? Culture warfare? Class warfare? Manipulation? Brainwashing? Dishonesty? Anit-Americanism? The list goes on.....
And exactly, what the hell is your problem? You sound like the classic poor loser. I have seen a few of your posts, nothing but negativity You, for sure, are a Republican.
You must be free from your brain!
@ RLS, Ken erica has the problem with Obama as its president.
America has the problem with Obama as its president.
I didn't vote for him because after shipping the jobs over seas, the people he laid off eventually ran out of unemployment insurance, then had to rely on Welfare. The very 45% he complained about. Ok, so the stuff is cheaper, but you end up paying for these people who no longer have jobs... Think about it....
Now the elections over, Obama has won another term. The president and congress have to work together. Both parties know there is another election after 2 years. These days more people are aware of their voting right.
Beware of REPUBLICANS.
I find it hysterical that all these self-proclaimed "conservatives" feel some sort of need to blame their party's downfall on a single element, whatever that may happen to be.
It was Ryan and his preposterous budget proposal? Okay, sure...let's go with that, if it makes you feel better.
Why do people think it's racist to ask for Obama's birth certificate? If there wasn't a video of Michelle Obama referring to Kenya as "his home country", then there would be no reason for people to ask questions. I didn't see anyone questioning Herman Cain on this issue and he is full African American, not bi-racial.
You don't get it, do you?
You've got it backwards. You're not racist because you're demanding a birth certificate...you're demanding a birth certificate because you're racist.
You got that right DB! Way to read his beads! Bravo!
The prez showed short form, long form, listing in local paper and still there are people (trump being one) that question his birth. John McCain was born in panama, why didn't someone ask for his papers? Oh I know why, HE'S the WHITE GUY?
Shocked to see the election results map! Only some major metropolis areas Democrat and all the rest of the country Republican. Talk about a divided, severely unrepairable and seriously divided nation.
That big spread of red? that's what known as a desert.
I don't think Ryan did the damage, Ryan is right wing conservative, Romney was seen as a moderate, the GOP thought that would be the best of both worlds. The problem was, Romney had no clear message, no clear strategy, he campaigned for over a year and couldn't convince people he could turn the country around.
I won't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you Ryan is the number 1 reason I did not vote for Romney.
I totally agreed that we need one party system, whether it is repulican or democratic, it will be much better than we have now–Two party system. What we got is the mentality - Me First, party second, and country the dismal third. Neither party is will doing somthting fisrt for the country. One should not look further other than the second largest economy on earth, it is ironic on at least two front. It is one party system under the tight grib of Communist but it also has most robust economic second to only us and will leave us in dust in ten years on most economists' forecast. It was just started a little more than thirty years ago –1980, it is simply amazingly at expense at our fourtune. How is it? One again do not have look further but ask our self why on the earth , the no 1 company on earth –APPLE almost manufacture all their product in China with annual $100 billions revenus which could haven invested here at home? How many job we lost? How many more other company do the same thing? why they do not want to stay here? Why they want to go a far far left communist country, instead of staying here at the proud democratic country? There got be something fundamentally wrong at the equation. May it be our democray at fault? I think so.
One party system? That worked well for Germany, except for the World War II and the holocaust thing. If anything we need a third party - a real third party, not some fringe left wing or right wing group, but something in the center. That would force them to compromise.
So you think China has a good political model to follow? well, why is it any Chinese students who study here don't want to go back to China with a PhD to make less than $10K a year? Most of the Chinese I know, and I know many of them, don't want anything to do with their government, why? Because they are afraid of them, if you are on the wrong side of your local communist official, you might find yourself in a prison if you're lucky. So as a citizen, it is to your benefit to keep your opinions to yourself. Ever hear of the Tiananmen Square incident? If you need something done by the government, you had better know who to pay off or it won't get done.
Anyone who would vote for either is these two just isn't payin attention....Mitt = Liar, Ryan = Super Liar.
The only one who doomed Romney is Romney himself. Although I don't agree with Ryan's tea bagger fiscal policies or social views; he is pragmatic and is a balance in the House. A lot better than those old white guys in the GOP ( Boehner, McCain McConnell, and last but not least Lindsey Graham)who are there as obstructionist's with their big money donors. Ugh !
I continually wonder why any woman would vote for a party (GOP) that wants to take their rights (abortion) away from them? It just doesn't make sense. Why would you want your right to choose (within existing law) to be taken away from not only you but all women who disagree.
Oh, yes to answer the question; Ryan was the person the party wanted, Romney had no choice.
there are plenty of stupid women .. like there are men .. it's that simple
Ryan didn't doom Romney. Romney doomed Romney.
Ryan just confirmed it, much like Palin last time. The GOP is lost in a time continuum.
Very well put! And today you have Grumpy McCain skipping a briefing on Benghazi – after saying how much he wanted to know the truth! All the Repubs are a bunch of whiny children ...
I would be more likely to have voted for Ryan than I would have Romney. At least Ryan is what he has always been. Romney is what the party tells him to be. I vote for leaders, not another party puppet, even though I may not totally agree with them. That is why we have checks and balances, to keep one man/party from taking change of everything.
The Ryan plan was the Republican plan. Is that surprising? Ryan worships Ayn Rand and her philosophy of self. It sure is a funny that Ryan is a Ayn Rand disciple considering that he is supposedly a super Catholic and Rand is a atheists. In any case, Ryan is truthful about what he wants to do Americans and Americans are finally understanding that Republicans love the rich and consider the middle class to be grease to make their sled move. Oh well, the Republicans will continue to support the rich and make use of their middle class voters. Such is life.
I remember when my pro-Obama comments received visceral replies. The pro-Romney people were filled with nothing but extreme hate for Obama. Now they know 6 ways to prepare crow.
I totally disagree, you can't doom something that has no future .. Ryan was the last nail in the coffin, but the coffin did already contain a corpse well before he came along
" ...doubling down on all of the failed Bush-era economic principles didn’t serve Romney or Ryan well in this election, and under any real discernment, doesn’t pass the smell test for improving our country."
Ryan is from the screaming right-wing lunatic segment of the Republican Party.
As a moderate conservative, the tea party sank the GOP. We like conservative, not crazy. It's really that simple. Cut the deficit and stay out of my bedroom. A simple concept a teenager can understand but the GOP can't.
Romney/Ryan doomed themselves. And thats a fact jack
Here are a few ideas I had that I think would put the country back on the right track.
1. Put an end to political parties
2. Tax credits for children would have a max of 2
3. Close all over seas military bases, and reopen closed ones here
4. Legalize Marijuana and have it taxed and sold in government stores
5. Gradually close down the postal service. Taking away 1 day every 5 years so people can adjust. What cant be emailed, can be sent by private companies
6. Drastically increase the tariffs on all imports. So US products will be cheaper, thus keeping more jobs here.
7. Start making our own money again and severing our ties with the federal reserve.
8. Marriage is a religious ceremony between a man and a woman and should remain so. That being said, the government instead of handing out marriage licenses, will hand out domestic partner licenses that would have all the same rights as marriage licenses do now
9. In order to qualify for welfare, you must work at least 20hrs a week.
10. Stop giving government money to other countries until we are out of debt.
11. Increase boarder security, and start charging a larger fee for people who want to move here.
12. Give people the option to "opt out" of social security.
13. Eliminate income tax, and make it all based on sales tax. (why should we be penalized for working?)
14. Have more bills voted on by the people. Set up an online site and use SS# and passwords for security. (This way votes wont be bought as easy)
Well, that's about it. Let me know what you all think. I may run for something (again) in the near future.
DAVE IN PA...Some ideas not bad. But some...NO WAY! SEE COMMENTS IN CAPS!
1. Put an end to political parties. HOW?
2. Tax credits for children would have a max of 2
3. Close all over seas military bases, and reopen closed ones here. BETTER..DON'T OPEN THEM UP HERE!
4. Legalize Marijuana and have it taxed and sold in government stores
5. Gradually close down the postal service. Taking away 1 day every 5 years so people can adjust. What cant be emailed, can be sent by private companies. PRIVATE COMPANIES WILL ALWAYS BE MORE EXPENSIVE. LOOK AT MEDICARE. IT'S OVERHEAD IS 2%. PRIVATE COMPANIES HAVE A 7% AVERAGE OVERHEAD BEFORE A 20% PROFIT!
6. Drastically increase the tariffs on all imports. So US products will be cheaper, thus keeping more jobs here.
7. Start making our own money again and severing our ties with the federal reserve.
8. Marriage is a religious ceremony between a man and a woman and should remain so. That being said, the government instead of handing out marriage licenses, will hand out domestic partner licenses that would have all the same rights as marriage licenses do now
9. In order to qualify for welfare, you must work at least 20hrs a week. OK..BUT WHERE ARE THE JOBS?
10. Stop giving government money to other countries until we are out of debt.
11. Increase boarder security, and start charging a larger fee for people who want to move here.
12. Give people the option to "opt out" of social security. NO WAY! IT WILL BANKRUPT SOCIAL SECURITY!
13. Eliminate income tax, and make it all based on sales tax. (why should we be penalized for working?) SALES TAX IN LIEU OF INCOME TAX IS A "RICH MAN'S WET DREAM". IT TAKES THE TAX BURDEN OF THEM AND PUTS IT ON THE BACKS OF THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASSES.
14. Have more bills voted on by the people. Set up an online site and use SS# and passwords for security. (This way votes wont be bought as easy)
Well, that's about it. Let me know what you all think. I may run for something (again) in the near future
Dave, your plan makes too much sense. I am a recovering conservative from CA.
A LOT of people in this country voted for the guy who is gonna' give them A LOT of FREE STUFF, paid for by the minority of productive, working Americans.. That's how simple it is. You like Greece? Well, welcome to it.
Uh... no.
Please give us an example of this free stuff. I'm still waiting for mine.
I am a college professor and a white guy. I do not want "stuff" from the government and yet I voted for Obama. By the way, before you start babbling about commie pinko socialist freeloaders, I grew up in a socialist country behind the "iron curtain" during the 60' and the 70'. I know what socialism looks and smells like.
Romney didn't need any help losing. He just does not get it - nobody likes him or his religious crap! And now he's acting like all Mormons act, holier than thou - oh, I forgot . . . he believes he's going to be a God and get his own planet! Guess that would give one a "superiority complex" and Mitt's got one, for sure!
Ryan certainly was no help but Mitt was perfectly capable of losing the election all by himself. The latest comments (recorded comments no less) to his contributers speak volumes about his lack of understanding of the vast majority of americans.
People were not blind to the fact that Republicans obstructed every single thing and then accuse Obama of being ineffective and a failure. Now we can expect another dog and pony show to impeach Obama like Lewinski, Whitewatergate, Vince Foster and on and on.
What a load of crap. I'm a Republican, and I wouldn't vote for Romney. Despite Paul Ryan - at least Paul Ryan had a plan to tackle the deficit. Bush cut taxes, but did nothing to cut spending. In fact, he increased spending to cover two wars (at least one of which was needed, but also needed to be paid for), and increased prescription drug benefits. Romney promised more of the same crap. Cut taxes (fine), but don't pay for it (highly irresponsible). If he had a plan to pay for it, which I doubt, he refused to share it beyond some nebulous "cut waste" and repeal Obamacare (as if paying for emergency care [which hospitals and by extension us are forced to now] were cheaper than paying for preventive care). His one concrete cut was to public television and radio. Whoopee. That's like saying you're saving for a car, and you have a whole $5 already. Obama, bad as he is, was actually more fiscally responsible than Romney. So Obama wins.
Obama has not swayed significantly from any policies of any president since Eisenhower.
What Drivel!
Ryan's ideas are the only thing that got me to vote for Romney in the first place.
You're crazy
It's very simple, we didn't want a VP that looked like Eddie Munster
Good one.
This article's writer talking about the 'smell test' coupled by Haley Barbour's recent comments about the Republican Party needing a Proctoscopic Exam really hits the nail right on the head! Now we know where their heads have been during the past four years and most recently during this election! Will they ever emerge from the depths of their political orifice? Well, one thing is for sure, they are certain to go down in the 'annals' of history, that's for sure!
Good one.
How 'bout blaming youself, Mittens. How'd that tax hiding thing work for ya?
"Did Ryan's ideas doom Romney?"
They certainly didn't help, that's for sure. Although Ryan views are way too extremist, Romney lost my vote all on his own.
No need to blame Ryan on why I voted for Obama.
The only thing that hurt Romney is when he opened his mouth.
I am not a Republican, but Ryan definitely DID NOT doom Romney's election possibilities. The OBamboozler's lies and negative/untruthful ads did. I hear there is some buyer remorse already, though. However, unless HE is impeached for the Benghazi fiasco and numerous other cover ups and lies, you folks are stuck with him and the "Mouth Biden." More power to all of you, I guess!
The American electorate has given HIM just enough time to bring our once prosperous country to its knees. If the American electorate really believes that HE is serious about working across the isle and really wants to work on the issues that affect America, you are silly and sadly mistaken.
Of course, this DOES NOT include Black voters as they would have voted for HIM even if he was the Real Satan; as some Black ministers referred to HIM before the elections.
But, that is what some uninformed/ignorant Americans and Latinos wanted. Now "you all" will have to continue "Bending Forward" for another four years. By the way, NO Vaseline this time around!!! Enjoy!
Want a free Obama cell phone with that?!
You may not be a republican, but you sound like one. Let me guess, you watch fox news right? Romney's 47% video didn't convince you. Hiding his taxes? flip flop on the auto bailout? defunding planned parenthood? Your red satan comment is total crap. Stop being bitter, deal with it you lost.
Oh wow, you are sooooooo intelligent. I am really, really impressed. When I grow up I definitely want to emulate you. Now, please go "Bend Forward" and please your Master. However, keep in mind it may hurt a bit. No Vaseline this time around. Do enjoy, though...
OK you're a racist. No need wasting time with you. Your brain has already been condemned.
You are too stupid to be a Republican, or anything else for that matter...
Ted, I thought stupid was a prerequisite for being a Republican.
Bottom line: Romney NEVER wanted to be president. Seriously. How can you spend six years 'running' for this office and NOT learn a lesson or two about Politics 101 (or any basic speech class): KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE! But worst of all, when YOU don't want to be president, you can't put it all on the shoulders of someone who HAD to realize -EARLY on- that your coattails didn't go all the way to the floor. When you spend $900K of someone else's money, either you fess up and claim that others fell for your lines (which means you're that good of a BSer)...or you will blame others because beyond your wife claiming that you fathered all of your children, you have no sense of accountability.
NEVER? I doubt that. The man was simply too lazy to put in the grunt work. Combining that he doesn't care about non-rich people, he never had a chance.
Meh. Ryan didn't help, but Romney's campaign was doomed by any number of other issues. Ryan was probably the least of his worries. The biggest problem is that the GOP has adopted a platform that has little basis in reality. Mitt had to run on that platform, and I don't think even he believed much of it.
All Ryan did was verify that the Romney budget would have been draconian on social programs but would have been quite generous on defense spending. Medicare vouchers along with privatizing Social Security would have the rule not the exception. Ryan also did not help when he extended the lying the campaign was already engaged in. Maybe Romney wanted all those shiny new Navy ships he was arguing about in the debates in the pool of his living room to play battleship.
The GOPhers have a desire to loose elections, it seems almost pathological. Four years ago McCain, who I felt was a strong candidate decided that he needed to loose the election, how best to do it?? Select a running mate who was already a problem in her home state, THE MOOSE PALIN, filled the bill. Result?? McCain lost. This year we have Romney, an Elitist from the word go, out of touch with the average citizen, (At Least McCain had Joe the Plumber) decides that one of the candidates who has already been turned down by the voters is his best choice, so he choose, THE OTHER MOOSE PAUL RYAN. He should have written his consecion speech at the moment he selected Ryan.
Republican Party, if you want to loose so badly there is a cheaper way to do it, Close down the shop and go fishing!
Republicans are such Sore Losers that they are still fuming so much about their recent presidential loss, despite the fact that they need blame no one else but themselves and it couldn't have happened to a better group! And it's stinking worse than when someone passes sauerkraut gas! Pee-Yewwww! Just listen to them blowing it on the radio and other places and you'll see what we mean! The Republican Party - A Party of the Past Not Slated To Re-emerge Again! Thank God!
You're Spot On and you sure got that right! One can smell the stench from coast to coast in this nation! In fact, it's getting bad enough to kill ten moose and at least five horses in the same patch along the way! Wow, who would have thought Republicans would end up being such Big Whiners and Sore Losers!
Si! Los Republicanos andan tirando pedos muy Apestosos despuses de que perdieron la elecion!
I wonder what percentage of Obama voters didn't vote for their House Representatives. It stands to reason if you vote Dem for Pres, you vote Dem for the House, and yet the GOP has that majority there, so did Obama just get an extra kick of rockstar votes from people who only vote for the president?
I would say the GOP is in complete disarray, but they still do own the House, but you have to wonder why. Governors for that matter too
They did vote for the dems, but due to redistricting the repubs one. The gov. races weren't up yet.
Won not one.
Yes, Ken Margo, and as many are saying across the country the gerrymandering is what got them to retain the House. However, Democrats rightfully retained the Senate and now have a good majority having added two new Senators! While the Republicans continue to whine and dine in expensive restaurants yet remaining in denial about the election, the Democrats are moving the country Forward with the re-election of the president! That's why the voters voted for President Obama!
The Republicans have a majority in the House because they won State elections in 2010 and "Gerimandered' the districts to keep the Republican. The House IS NOT "representative" as you would think!
Please enough, the Republican Party Brand is the toxic mix of the social conservative who are still waging a cultural war along with what was the old Democrat Southern States Mitt ran a decent race but with the Republican Platform around his neck which reflects the John Birch Society's agenda rather then a national political party he was doomed from the start. The Southern political agenda has never been popular with the rest of the country and the Republican Party is doomed as a national political force unless it dumps the social conservatives and goes beyond its Bible belt electoral strength.
Wow. What a one-sided opinion. Sounds like the author is Obama's campaign manager. No doubt she is a hard-core Democrat. Why doesn't CNN publish opinions which a least try to have at least a little bit of objectivity.
Didn't Romney lose? or are you in denial too.
I suppose you have 2 sided opinions, or like Mitt you have multiple sided opinions...
Oh, you mean like FOX ?
Bad ideas are better than no ideas at all
At least you can laugh at someone with bad ideas. No ideas just means you're stupid.
At least the democrats are consistent, take from the productive and promise more to the ignorant. They love to spend other peoples money on what they claim are moral objectives but are not willing to work for achieve their moral objectives. America is changing and all for the worse. Hopefully the republicans will maintain their principles in the "negotiation" with the anointed one. If so, 2014 will be a landslide for the GOP.
You are also part of the reason Mitt lost.
Principles? The same pro-life repubs against gun control and health care. Yeah principles. The crooked christian conservatives don't care about anybody except themselves and the rich.
pro life? You bet. Much better than pro 3rd trimester abortion and unwilling to call it abortion but instead call it reproductive rights. Corrupt? Well that would refer to the thugs like Trumpka that have more discourse with the president than the president had with his so called "jobs council". The policies of Barack Obama are not different from the policies of Greece or other declining European countries. Demonize the job creators who happen to also make money (so bad). Good talking points for elections. Very bad for long term prosperity. But you are obviously a union member who had never the intellect to think or work on your own behalf. Thank goodness for the gravy train.
Ok mike let me straighten your m0nkey AZZ out. I'm not union. Have health care, Never been on public assistance, married, 2 daughters (one in college) own a home, car in other words, the American dream. You pro life, I don't see you offering any money to help the kids you want so badly to be born! Yet when the parents need the help types like you don't want to help them. Which proves one thing. YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE KIDS! you are the perfect example of a crooked christian conservative.
Funny how the left loves to demonize the rich. According to most leftys the rich are 1-2% of the population but support the rest of country thru their tax payments. BUT, mitt romney garnered 49% of the vote in 2012. I guess alot of non-rich people believe in free enterprise, capitalism, economic democracy. While I believe that black voters are a monolithic group (95+ support for Obama) his policies have hurt that group more than any other. I feel bad for them but it will get much worse. Maybe they will see the light in 2014!
Raising the rich taxes from 35 to 39 is not demonizing them. (Stop watching fox news) Explain this. The prez. signed an extension of the bush tax cuts in 2010. If the repubs don't like the job numbers, it only proves the point tax cuts for the rich DO NOT mean jobs. You can't have it both ways.
What policies have the prez put in hurt black groups? please be specific.
Mutt Romney didn't get 49% of the vote.
What policies have the prez put in to stop capitalism? Please be specific.
Ken, you may not be on public assistance but from what I can tell from your postings, you a a perfect candidate. (car in other words) what the hell does that mean? Wow, you own a car and somehow that qualifies you to infer that I would not provide assistance to a mother needing help or to a child needing help. Wrong. That would be the union mentality that says " lets drive wages and benefits to a level where companys only need half the workers". The rest of you can go to hell. Trust me, my family is half GOP and half democrat. The republican side of the family works and the democrat side either is "early retired" with chips on their shoulders or is unemployed and being supported by the republicans. You are obviously a very hate filled person with low intellect and probably low potential. Classic democrat! I hope your family does well when you lose your job.
I dont thing Earnst and Young (public accounting firm) is partisan. According to them, in 2011 the obama administration enacted new regulations that cost the construction industry (just that industry) $10 billion annually. The Dodd Frank financial reform act has cost the banking industry over 100,000 jobs since the laws inception. AND according to most analysis, that laws provisions would have done nothing to prevent the financial crisis of 2008. In fact, there have been notable financial collapse since Dodd – Frank ( MF global, Peregrine financial). Most of what democrats have done in my lifetime to "help" people, have in fact hurt them. This is probably over your head but unfortunately, your children will bear the brunt of your support for economically destructive policies of the Democrats.
Don't be mad at me because half of YOUR FAMILY IS LAZY. Not everyone that gets public assistance is lazy. I know you would not help others because of the way you describe YOUR OWN family, and you say I'm hate filled? Unions don't drive down wages, The reason there is a middle class is because of unions. Do you think companies give sick, holiday pay benefits out of the goodness of their hearts? Unions negotiated a lot of the benefits i bet YOU enjoy today. Finally you sound like a real christian hoping I lose my job, which goes back to what I said earlier, you really don't care about other people.
A lot of companies have gone bankrupt, ENRON, BEAR STEARNS, MERRILL LYNCH, LEHMAN BROTHERS etc. long before dodd-frank. Business big and small. How much of their activity caused their own failure? the financial melt down was not caused by the gov't. The gov't had to put in regulations to keep the economy from collapsing. (Do you want to go through that again) Final point The stock market has doubled since OBAMA has been in office. He's not against capitalism!
Negotiated?? you must be living in a fantasy world. Unions bankrupted the auto makers, the steel companies, the airline companies. Its not about negotiation its about targeting companies that are capital intensive, cant afford a shutdown and them threatening them with a shutdown via their collective bargaining system. Union members ride the gravy train until the train ends. And all those companies (auto, steel, airline) had employees with families and homes that got destroyed when the gravy train ended. Unions bosses didnt care. They kept their jobs. Unions were a great thing for the middle class during the industrial revolution all the way into the mid 1970's. Of course, the pendulum swung too far and now they are net job destroyers.
Can unions be tough? ABSOLUTELY! Their jobs are to protect worker rights. Look at all the companies that have left this country for countries where workers get paid cents a week (if they are lucky) . Do you think people should get paid cents a week, no vac pay, no sick time, etc. Is that what you want here? The auto industry is still here as well as the airlines, The unions gave up a lot when the companies struggled, so unions are not job killers. I don't hear the same criticism of the baseball players union. Are they killing jobs?
Yes Ryan was part of the problem. The other part was Mitt.
Just to be clear ... the vulture capitalist mittens doomed himself.
Sully, are you fustrated, feel lonely, need to get laid, or maybe need a hug? You are the idiot for thinking a moron like Romney had any chance of winning. Americans are not idiots. look in the mirror, and you will see "the" idiot.
Check the popular vote. A great many who still see this as white and male voted agains the President. Narrow minded people go down hard. Being American is more than beiing white or rich. And Im white and proud of it, but not so stupid as to not see that the world has changed and to stay in front and lead we need to be changing some our selves. I just wish the darn immigrants would learn to speak english.
Does this mean if they learned to speak English you would like them?
I'm sure you are speaking about the Italian immigrants who are in actuality the real LATINS!
Republicans see the race as close enough that maybe they can try it again.... they cannot see. That is their main problem... And people will not forget... I remember when Romney nominated Ryan, I thought.... what is he thinking, this puts Medicare right in the middle of the debate... Romney made alot of bad mistakes which make me glad he is not going to be President.
I considered voting for Mittens, I really don't care for BO's politics in general, however the thought of Ryan like some evil spider whispering in his hear the steady stream of Right Wing BS and hate and dislike for anyone not rich or narrow minded put me off and I swallowed my pride and voted for the Center left guys and gals. WHere the hell is teddy roosevelt when we need him?
When ever someone criticizes the prez. They are never specific. What about the prez. policies you don't like. We can have a real debate on something specific. Without specifics, you sound like Mutt Romney.
This is my first night on CNN.com and their various blogs. But i gotta say, the level of intellect from the democrats is pretty embarrassing. I generally avoid friendships with socialists but I have a few that are good people but just misguided, so its fun to get together and debate. But seriously, most of you lefty's are lucky to even have an Obama phone.
National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012. While not Obama's policy per say, he still signed it. Anything with indefinite detentions without trial should be vetoed.
Appointment of Monsanto execs to the FDA. Almost as bad as Bush's putting Oil Execs in charge of the EPA.
Taking so long to finally do the right thing and support gay marriage. But better late than never.
Extra judicial killings of American Citizens. No one is going to shed a tear for the target, but it's a scary precedent.
Still voted for him, but Stein still had at least a 40% chance of getting my vote before I walked into the booth.
@Mike..............You sound like Rush. Obamaclaus nonsense rush has been saying.
@joe................. your first point is aimed at terrorists. Not for your average citizen. As YOU pointed out. It started with bush.
The monsanto execs. I need to find out more as far as what they are doing.
The gay marriage issue I agree with that. At least he came around.
Judicial killings: If you go to war against America by joining a group that wants to destroy us. I don't have a problem with that. I rather we kill them before they kill us.
McCant[sic] picked a Wag and Mittens picked a Wuss. Nuff said.
I t wasn't Romneys ideas, I think, but it was more Obama sticking to what he thinks will work for us and how Romney seemed to change his own core beliefs to fit the situation or even polls. He might have been a leader in the corporate world but there the leadership is mostly top down which hasn't worked here ever. It has a few times but mostly we embrace that we all contribute to society. Some will say that it is socialism. But we have been that for a long time against corporatism. Neither one is bad but there does have to be a balance between the two and I think most people, voters, know that. The republican party never seems to get that.
Ryan lost me when i saw his financial "plan" which included cutting everything except defense in which billions more were to be poured into it. I saw no use for my tax dollars for more war and defense spending. An idiotic plan.
The selection of Ryan as a VP was a 'bad idea' only in hindsight. It was the right call then. Romney wanted a clear choice to help him differentiate himself from the President, so he picked the architect of the Republican's budget plan. I'm not a fan of the Ryan budget, insignificant impact on the deficit with severe pain to the people who can least afford more right now, but at least he had a concrete proposal which is better than the vast majority of Republicans and Democrats alike can claim.
There was risk in the choice, but if Romney played it safe and just turned to center with Obama, the country would have had the choice between functionally identical choices. Romney took the risk, it didn't pan out, but it was the right call.
How can you say it was the right call if he didn't win? You call the Ryan plan a concrete proposal? That's like saying General Custard had a concrete plan! If the public doesn't like the plan then vote against the plan, It's concrete alright, sinking to the bottom of the sea.
Because we make decisions based on the facts at the time, we don't know the results. When one plays holdem, and goes all in with aces before the flop, we don't say they made the wrong call if they end up losing.
Besides, do you honestly think Romney would have done better with anyone else? Romney was beat in the primary when he had to make a sharp right turn to win the nomination. It let Obama claim the center, so Romney's only potential path to victory was to energize his base and hope Obama's supporters would sit this one out.
Ryan could potentially deliver Wisconsin. Some claimed he should have picked from a 'safer' swing state. But the campaign wasn't stupid, they knew that if Romney needed the extra help to win VA, FL, or OH he was beat already. Even with those three he still wasn't going to be there in electoral votes. Had the election actually been close, picking from WI could have tipped it, and if WI was never in play in the first place, he had no chance so why bother.
At best Romney could have claimed one, maybe two more states with a different pick. He took the risky approach to victory, but it was the best bet he had.
@joe................If we knew the Ryan plan was garbage from the start. Shouldn't have Mutt? Since Mutt was the leader, HE should have had a plan. Then Mutt could have Ryan piggy back of Mutts plan.
Garbage to you or me doesn't mean garbage to all. He put it out, and let the voters decide. It's what democracy is all about. Had he not had his recent bribe comment, I'd even call it classy.
That is why you have polls, research etc etc. Mutt still should have had his own plan. Or at least something we could hang our hat on. Not being specific doesn't look presidential.
Oh, yeah...the "concrete proposal" that Ryan did not have time to discuss in any detail when he was asked about it and in debate #3 Mitt said we should go on their website and read about it - conclusion: there was no concrete proposal!
I've read it. It sucks, and is probably worse than doing absolutely nothing, but at least it's there.
Ryan may not have helped, but he didn't do even a fraction of the damage Mitt did to himself. I found Ryan to be somewhat human next to the flip-flop machine Romney.
You find Ryan to be "human?" Yikes – He's like a reptilian robot invader infiltrating government until he and his kind can begin their take over.
"Ryan may not have helped, but he didn't do even a fraction of the damage Mitt did to himself." – That's because, as soon as he started talking and putting the Republican ticket in even more danger of a disasterous defeat, they put a muzzle on him and kept him away from the press and all of the "swing states" only preaching to the choir in well-controlled republican strongholds. They couldn't do that with the top of the ticket as effectively, thank goddness, so we still got to hear Mitt's lies and stupidity. If Ryan had been in the spotlight as much as Romney in the last weeks of the campaign the win for the Obama camp would have been even bigger, and who knows, maybe the Democrats would have even won back the House. Well, unless the tea party kidnapped Republicans learn their lesson (and in a hurry) they will provide us with plenty of ammunition to take back the House from the tea partiers in 2014 and finish the job.
Paul (I don't recall asking for any stimulus money) Ryan is a lying piece of crap and should be run out of town on a rail.
While the Republicans wanted to actually win this time as opposed to 2008 (Sarah Palin? Really?) , they couldn't field a candidate worth looking at with the stale approach to running this country. Romney was a poor attempt at Charisma wrapped around Reagan II. As usual, the sequel never lives up to the original. Obama was actually WILLING to take on this job, he knew it would not be a four-year fix. Hell, twelve may not be enough. On the deficit? He inherited a war put on a credit card, and W's going after Saddam was nothing more than 'Daddy, look what I did!' So, the sub-prime mess President Obama took on was not going to be simple cutting of the deficit. We weren't (aren't?) well enough to survive without adding to the deficit in order to rebuild what had been damaged. Now, more work starts, this time fixing the old policies that left this mess while maintaining a level of humanity, especially around Women's reproductive rights. Really, Mitt? Alienating over half of the population with your promises designed to appeal to the Religious Right is probably not the best way to win a contest. Personally, I feel I can comment on what a woman does with her body when I grow a uterus. Nor is slamming the same healthcare initiatives that you essentially created in Massachusetts. How do you know you've lost the race? When you can't even carry your home State. Unless both political sides are able to get rid oftheir BS agendas and agree to work TOGETHER to fix this country, we will continue this spiral, losing whatever edge the US used to have. Manufacture much? Hmmm... don't think too long about it. We, as a country, build very little. That's a shame.
True!
I wanted to vote for McCain but he picked Palin – I would have voted for Romney but he picked Palin – After the mess Cheney made as a VP I refuse to take those chances – When the Republicans decide to be moderate conservatives and not right wing fanatics I will vote for them.
The problem with Romney is the fact the he was all over the issues and positions. He was for healthcare, then he would repeal Obamacare. He was not for immigration reform and against Hispanics, then to gain their their support he said his father was born in Mexico. The government does not create jobs,..., then HE will create 12 million jobs (how?). He would balance the budget. How?... I will tell you after I get elected. He either thought that Americans are stupid, or he was stupid himself (no, having money does not mean you are smart). His GOP primary rivals concluded that, and said so.
The "borrow money from your parents" comment was all it took for most of America to realize that Mitt Romney has absolutely no idea what it is like to be a normal middle class person. That is so far from reality for most people its laughable. Its extremely disturbing that someone that out of touch got that close to becoming our president.
RomneyBain understandably "hid" the kid in the latter stages of the campaign, rather than having to distance himself from Ryan's unpopular positions. Romney doomed Romney– by his private frankness about his view of non-wealthy Americans, by his affinity for "self-deportation," by his unwillingness to disavow the most extreme of his party's candidates and policy positions, by his arrogant "I know how to do that" with no supporting evidence, and–yes–by his unfortunate VP choice. The two nominees failed to carry all five of their "home" states–dissed by voters who knew them best.
I would also like to say that there is a HUGE difference between being educated and being intelligent. For quite a few people they are educated because their parents paid for them to go to college. Not because they were intelligent.
The republicans scare me, I can see the parallels to the robber barons, the company store and yes even nazi Germany. I hate to think what kids are going to have to do to survive in a few years if they aren't stopped some how.
Bobby Jindal to GOP..."stop being the dumb party"...are you listening Boehner and gang?!
The republican party was trying to recycle their past messages and ended up sounding like Barry Goldwater... most of you won't remember Goldwater's HAWKISH message, but to the Goldwater campaign slogan ("In your heart you know he's right"), the Dems responded with: "In your guts, you know he's nuts."
True back then, still true today...
Here's the problem with CNN's BIAS in reporting: Hypothetical story: Romney drove a red pickup truck to the mall/Obama drove a red pickup truck to the mall.
CNN on Obama: The mighty Obama whose exhilarating prowess takes him everywhere shined in his bright red truck, the color of motivation and hope and change. That truck bolted like lightning because Obama was driving it after all. He took it to the mall, probably because he is an ordinary guy like you and me.
CNN on Romney: That horribly out of touch Republican, one of those people who are meaningless to society drove a red truck. That's probably because he is only in touch with hicks who drive trucks, and it was probably red because that is the color of anger and hatred. He probably drove it to a mall because he's greedy and was trying to see if he could buy the place for himself.
Real clever........
Real crazy!.......
That's actually New York Times biased reporting. CNN reporters would have at least three typos in a story that long.
We actually (fortunately) did not hear much from Eddie Munster during the campaign. He seems bright, too bad he can't use his brains for good rather than to take things away from people. He clearly didn't do anything for Romney, but I think Romney lost on his own.
And, of course, Ryan looked and acted like a high school junior or senior.
The idea that this little arrogant holier-than-thou Taliban could be in the WH filled me with dread.
Who are you referring to? If you are referring to Obama, don't say could be.
got to admire Obama's strategy of picking Biden back in 08, though. Pick something awful to make yourself look better. Kinda like the attractive chic who hangs out with the ugly girl at the bar.
I think the voters are smarter than that.
Fear. All of those that voted for Obama are full of fear. Fear that if you challenge a man who unfortunately is black you will be labeled a racist. Fear that standing up to anyone for dividing a country based on wealth, race, income lives in fear. Fear that they lack the skills and intelect to make it on their own, fear of hard work, sacrifice and failure. This is a sad world when free stuff, health care, education, energy, food stamps, and housing defines who you are. The hypocrisy is that you are a slave to those that work to provide you those things and you live in fear of losing something that was not rightfully earned. It is one thing to help over a short period of time, but to be enslaved by others for your freedom, you are not free but chained to someone else. Ultimate freedom is not being owned by the government, a bank or someone else but that you have the means, money and intelect to make it on your own, decide what you want with no restrictions, barriers or other people's money. Get up out of slavery and move towards freedom by earning your way through life and not relying on a government.
You should call yourself Binder Full Of crap. Were you inspired by Mutt Romney's last conference call? Please pull your head out of your AZZ and wipe the crap out of your eyes.
So, everyone is hyper critical about Romney saying he lost the election because of "gifts" offered by democrats.
Yet, this article implies that Romney lost the election because he was going to cut spending on government programs to the elderly and the youth. Is healthcare for the elderly not a "gift"? How about grants to students? Those aren't "gifts"?
Romney lost because most Americans don't care about a limited government, less consumerism, or a truly balanced budget. They'll spend their money on iPads and 50 inchs LED TVs, and a new iPhone every release. Americans just want "things" whether it's free healthcare, free education, immediate citizenship, etc. Those are gifts that exceed the role of what the government is supposed to do!
Ok Jackson.......If an uninsured person goes to the hospital and CANNOT pay the bill. Who pays for it: THE TAXPAYER
That makes it FREE. Do you like paying someone Else's hospital bill. Probably NOT.
Under OBAMACARE you are FORCED TO BUY HEALTH INSURANCE. IF YOU ARE FORCED TO BUY IT, HOW IS IT FREE?
My daughter goes to UCONN. Trust me, there is nothing free about her education!
Please, stop listening to Rush, hannity and fox news pour garbage out of their mouths. Are thier people taking advantage of the system? Yes. That is why you have fraud divisions to put these people in jail. There are rich people that get "free" stuff. It's called CORPORATE WELFARE. What about rich people that steal like Madoff, Wall Street etc. Stop with the non sense and deal with reality.
Romney lost the election...for Romney. You can't "flip-flop". You can't prevaricate. You can't be a "private equity" CEO and call yourself a businessman. You can't make a living off of FIRING people and convince voters you know how to get them HIRED. Romney was the BIGGEST disaster, as a Republican Standard Bearer, that I've seen in 60 years!
Redistribution of Wealth...they're NOT "dirty words". The SOONER we do it...the BETTER!
Nobody cares about the VP or they wouldn't have elected a president whose VP is insane.
BADGUY: Don't despair, there's a place just for you a few miles south of Florida: CUBA! Go down and enjoy it. It's a one way ticket, though. Idiot!
Binder full of Crap. Did you also catch the comment that followed by Romney..."I want all women to have the opportunity to earn just as much as men and to have jobs that allow them to get off by five so they can get home cook dinner for their families." Seriously, you 're okay with that mindset. Idiots!!!!!
That insane VP made Ryan looked inexperienced and uniformed.
I once new a guy that was a pathological fibber. This amazing person could tell one story to one man, another to a second, until he would have four to six completely different, and divergent tales going. All rational, all logical, & believable. The amazing part, was that he could come back pick up each fantastic tale, where he left off, and continue each story with the correct party. These other guys & I only found out once we compared notes, not having the the news channels to point out each and every variation. I have found that Republicans in general can spin any situation around and stand it on its head, in their favor, of course. But what they did this time, was try to select a person, in Romney, who sounds just like the guy I've been speaking of. He's the purveyor of whatever you need to hear, whatever balm you need, step right up!. But even with CNN pointing out his shape changing positions on every subject, his downfall was sealed by selecting Ryan. Ryan nailed Romney down to a set of positions. And a pathological fibber doesn't like to be pinned down. It messes up the con.
There's all this talk about Obama winning because of the minority vote. Wrong! Blacks were only 13% and Hispanics only 10% of the electorate. Obama only won by 3%. Unfortunately for Romney, Obama won because at least 3 % of the whites did not believe Obama was Muslim or born in Kenya. If you exclude the huge number of white voters who think Obama is Kenyan born and/or Muslim...Obama won the white vote by a landslide. In 2016, when likely the Democratic nominee is going to be white.....the Democrats are going to win by 30-40%
Tommy,
That is (will be) the most verifiably stupid thing written in this thread. No one is going to win the 2016 election by a margin of 30-40%.
NAHHH, romney DID hImSeLf in very THOroughLY
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We sadly all lost. Slighly over 50% of us just don't know it yet though. Morons like Sandra Fluke may still be glad that they voted for Obama in 2015...but I'm going to go on record and predict an Obama approval rating of <30% by that time.
HEY T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ummmm... I dunno why you think we all lost! The further away we are from Bush Policies the better we ALL are! What's your gripe?
Is GARY STANG still in a fetal position after the election?
Religion – for me it was only about religion, and I voted for Obama because he wasn't a religious wacko like Ryan and Romney – he actually appears to think for himself
GOP thoughts, ideas, practices and wet dreams ruined it, THANK GOD(not the mormon god) for the glory of the result!!!!!!!!
The "you're an idiot", "I'm an idiot", "we're all idiots", "they're all idiots" arguments haven't worked out too well these past few elections and they are in fact untrue on both sides of the aisle. What we ARE is all Americans. Like it or not, you're stuck with your neighbors, and your neighbors politics. So, the election is over, it's time to govern. We've selected a leader, allow him to lead.
Please relay the message to the GOP!
Time to take a few folks to the woodshed. "Binder full of intellect" You should have called yourself GOD, since you claim to KNOW why every single person that voted for Obama did so, I venture to guess you don't know most of these people, and have not talked to them about the reasons why they voted the way they did. How very arrogant. Michael Hayes, you at least have knowledge of your subject, although you demonize Unions much the way the far left demonizes Big Business. It's not Black and White, guy. there are good and bad unions, and good and bad companies, one of the reasons governments SHOULD be involved in Labor relations is to TRY and keep the two sides balanced. THE PROBLEM is when you let the left go too far in front, the Unions go overboard, and the economy suffers, when the RIGHT has the upper hand for too long, Business tramples the rights of workers, and THEY suffer. It's a merry go round, kids, and for every horse that rises, another must sink. The idea behind representative government is to keep all the horses moving, and not let any horse get too high or too low.
Now, lets take a look at some silly Ideas. THE OBAMAPHONE. Low income government subsidies for phone service was an idea first implemented by..... Ronald Reagan. It was extended to cell phones by....... George W Bush. Any comments now?
Obamacare. Prior to 2009, the USA was the ONLY industrialized nation without universal healthcare, it was also 20th in the industrialized world in QUALITY of care, while being the MOST EXPENSIVE HEALTHCASRE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD! The costs are slowly coming down, but, in order to see this, you have to look at the Big picture, not what it is costing the government, but actual cost of healthcare to the NATION on an anual basis. (caveat, costs are not actually coming down, the increase is slowing) Having Universal Healthcare is CHEAPER than not having it. People like Papa John are just scapegoating Obamacare. (Fun Fact: this years free pizza giveaway is costing Papa Johns three times as much as insuring the employees would cost, and would also be tax deductible as a business expense).
The BOTTOM Line. There are many things the president did in his first term I was not fond of, and many others that I roundly hated, HOWEVER, I have never doubted that he has the best interests of the United States AS HE SEES IT, in mind at all times. I never, ever saw that in Mitt Romney, He always appeared to have the best interests of Mitt Romney in the forefront of his mind at all times. And that, more than anything, is what I believe sank him at the polls. No one wants to be lead by a weathervane.
That must be a huge woodshed?
I don't care where it started. When our federal govt starts handing out free cell phones and plans...that's a sign of the wheels about to come off the bus. I don't know when it happens...at the $17...18...or 20 TRILLION dollar in debt mark...but we're all going to be flying off the cliff at some point. Soon. The free cell phone fiasco won't be the final straw...but it's just a sign of the gross over-spending that populist politicians cause.
The USA also has (had?) the best medical/research/health care systems in the world – that had a positive global impact. Which is especially incredible given the size and complexity of our nation. Look at how far it's come in the past 100 years. But it's "fundamentallly transformed" (scary words) now by our President. The proof will be in the pudding...let's see how things look in 5 years or so.
I voted for Obama, because I had no respect for Romney. Even though I didn't agree with Ryan, I had a lot more respect for him.
I voted against Romney.
But the idea of an extremist Rand-disciple Ryan being a heartbeat away from the presidency convinced me even more than when McCain picked dim-wit Palin as his running mate.
Why focus on the losers in this election? As usual (except for Peanut Carter)... the Uhmurakin voters chose the least-worst candidate. Although the selection on the republican side only appealed to fools, racists and Barry Goldwater style right-wingers (which made it a simple choice for normal people), our great nation made the wisest decision. Lets not be sore losers, GOPers... just be chastened losers...
Ms Demeanor,
Based on President Obama's past, I'd say the far bigger racist DID get elected. His own words in "Dreams of My Father" are terrible (written long before he ever planned on high office). And his terrible tight ties with the disgusting "Reverand" Wright – close friend, pastor and man who married him and Michelle – of 20 years. The media won't lay it out for you...but it doesn't take much digging to see where real racist, hateful views exist. It's what drives President Obama and his policies.
"Don't boo...vote...it's the best revenge." Is that really the best we can do? Another bad guy in the White House.
Ryan is white that's it. How many of us had a white kid call them racist names? and how many of us lived thru white authority? and how many of us did not get a job or get promoted because we did not fit the look "white". The Repubs better became less white or they are going to fade away.
Julio,
Now THAT is racist. It exists everwhere (obviously).
pretty much sums it up. mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan need to face reality- people realized the harm it would do to themselves and theirs while only helping the oodles folks– kind of like putting jp morgan back in position to be in charge- not a great idea.
Obama has been a total drag. The man isn't who he said he was in '08 and he benefits from being a media darling and pop star politician. His #1 attribute is turning it on during campaign time...aside from that he's negative, non-accountable, non-transparent, and phony. I don't believe anything he says at press conferences (when the kiddy-gloves come out by his fans in the press). The whole thing is a sad joke. I have no doubt that the candidates in '16 will be better...on both sides. I would have voted for Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Gore, Kerry, and even Bush and Dukakis over this far-left, non-inclusive, in-over-his-head fraud.
Awwwww You still crying GOP bush baby?! There there little one.....Don't worry! Everything will be okay! Watch you'll see! Then maybe you'll learn how backwards you have been thinking most of your life!
Let me say out front that I'm a senior citizen and Ryan's ideas were a just bit too bold for me. In the end I voted for Romney but I seriously considered throwing my vote away on another candidate. The Republican party is out of touch with a multi-cultural America. Adapt or run the risk of irrelevance.
Ryan is summed up by two pictures: He forced himself into a soup kitchen and washed pots that were already clean, just for a photo op which made him look ridiculous. Then the workout photo with the backwards baseball cap... he's the only person who can wear a backwards baseball cap and that still be the least douchiest thing he's done all day.
Romney and Ryan were simply Sarah Palin II and Sarah Palin III. Neither one had a CLUE what he was talking about!
Well said!
The day I seen Ryan posing with a deer he had killed looking so gratified was why they would never win. This country has changed because of the ever changing diversity and 24/7 instant knowledge from the internet. They day of silencing the masses is over. The GOP represent white superiority of power and wealth and the Christain right. Unless a revolution happens those days are coming to a end.
Paul Ryan was an appeal to Romney's base. He already had the base in his pocket so it was a waste. He could have picked a candidate to appeal to Latinos or blacks or women thereby helping himself with those demographics
Sarah Palin is the Heather Locklear of politics and Paul Ryan is the Gomer Pyle. Americans are too shallow to consider ideas. The Time photo op is what sunk him personally. Sorry folks, Romney didn't need Ryan to foil his run, Romney jinxed his chances all on his own. No running mate, not even Colin Powell or Condi Rice could have rescued Romney from the evil cabal of Rove-Adelson-Wynn.
Reality is going to bite all of you Democrats in the butt when the money runs out.
Well duh! The twit didn't know from one day to the next what he was supposed to believe in (and he is still in that delusional rethug bubble) then he brings in the ultra conservative (no way you are winning the presidency ever lyan altar boy) akin twin to try to bring in the right wing zealots without realizing that he was going to tick off and lose anyone froml the center left who believe in individual freedoms and that we don't want to go back to the 1950s!
BTW bully bishop, my husband and I are still waiting for those "gifts" from the President. When we contributed money to his campaign(s) all we expected was for the President to stand by 100% of the country not just what turned out to be the 47%+. It was a vote not an auction of hate and backwoods ideas.
Personally, I did not "vote for" Obama nor did I "not vote" for Romney – I voted AGAINST fox news, rush limbaugh, Paul Ryan, Eric cantor, Sarah palin, Donald trump, Ann coulter, and all of the rest of an antiquated party that wants to put women and minorities back into the 1950's.
Paul Ryan is a perfect example of what is wrong with the current republican party.
Agree...on your assessments.
Ryan was cult-y enough for me..if they couldn't run another Mormon, why didn't they pick a Scientologist or a Moonie?
1 bad person + another bad person = 1 worst result
The poor, the tired and the needy swung the Obama vote. So Solly
Romney's extremist 47er ideas doomned Romney. Ryan was also another 47er.
agree...still can't understand on why this huge millionaire Mitt would want to run for President since he has to represent all kinds pf Americans. The only motive I can think of was that he wanted to cater to his billioniare buddies and get more $$$ in return.
Newsflash you cretin: Obama is a multi-millionaire too. He's as much of a 1%er as Romney. Fail.
People who vote and actually believe that we will one day have a government that is not corrupt and will take care of the people is an absolute idiot regardless of their IQ, or educational background. Politics is nothing more than a team sport where people vote for their team period.. If your team loses you whine like babies until the next election. Heaven forbid the people get behind the president and do all they can to make this country better. Politics is just another failed religion.
LOL. What a crock. Look at these left-wing vermin trying to sabotage Ryan. The TRUTH, of course, is that if not for Ryan, Romney would've had significantly less, and significantly less enthusiastic, support than he did. To blame his loss on Ryan is breathtakingly ignorant, or based on morons wanting to ruin Ryan's future chances at the presidency.
US and obama are following the same path Greece and the rest of the SocialistEuropean nations have followed. Keep giving and keep promising, soon there will be nothing left to give while the promises keep on coming. GOP is not immune either, Bush's drug program and all the other give aways these parties, politicians and Presidents have given just for votes are coming home to roost, while we go deeper and deeper in debt in an unsustainable financial direction.
We warned you. Take your religious nonsense off the table. Focus on the economy NOT rebuilding the glutinous military.
Can't wait till 2016... maybe the next GOP Looney road show will be a Palin / Ryan Proformance...... Thanks to John McCain who opened up that door which invited a swirling vortex that will consume the GOP.. Does McCain not realize what a service he did to the Democractic Party? GOP should abort McCain.
Thank you Ms Purse. Your final paragraph summed it up perfectly. Now what America has to do is take a good hard look at the Republican obstructionists in Congress and send them packing. Then maybe the Country can move forward.
Romney was desperate. He threw everything on the wall to see which ones stick. He was told he needed Paul Ryan to get conservatives' support. Thank God for that. If Romney had chosen Rubio as his running mate, he could have neutralized Obama's Latino advantages. Despite Obama had better policies, having a Latino on the ticket with a potential of becoming the President of the United States someday would be very tempting.
Romney lost because of the Republican Party agenda and focus. The Republican party is irrelevant to anyone who isn't male and white and/or rich. It has become the "mean" party. Until it gets back to the middle more and can apeal to more than right-wing Christian conservatives who hate and fear anything not exactly like them, they will continue to lose the Presidential election.
In "fight or flight" mode, the Republican candidates are surprisingly quiet and absent the national landscape, no doubt reassessing their shaken sense of reality, for the blow dealt them was serious and unexpected. Twice, now, the Repub party has put up a sham of a VP candidate who frankly scared the be-jeesus out of most of us out here. Overly- confident in their simplistic beliefs, they are both prime examples of how the Repubs get things wrong.I used to shudder when Nancy Reagan said "Just say No" as answer to young who grew up in crime-infested neighborhoods where drug deals were open and profitiable. This white woman raised in a doctor's family really believed she'd "done it right" in life, and that's how she got to where she was. There was no serendipity...no sheer luck of the draw....no natural advantages she had, starting out of the gate, and this appalled me. Both Ryan and Palin share a common denominator: They're overly-simplistic and disrespectful of the complexity of issues. And Romney's flaw? Like McCain, he hitched his star to one who doomed his candidacy.
And why, on earth, does commenter Sully (@Sully) get so much air time on these posts and comments? Lord, it seems folks spend more time upraiding or castigating him than in speaking to the journalist's piece. Why is that?
Romney doomed himself by making the remark in the beginning of his campaign that he didn't care about 47% of the population and his desires as president were to give more tax breaks to the rich, do away with health care, and pump two trillion more dollars into an already bloated Pentagon 47% of the population is a LOT OF VOTES.
The stupidity thinking of some people to believe 2 people are smarter than millions of Americans is unbelievable, but then again that's what Romney/Ryan thought. Ryan has the Republicans believing he's the smartest guy walking with his Ryan Budget Plan and that wasn't smart at all so Ryan and the Republicans all bear he blame, Romney was just the tool to get Ryan in.
Gifts did indeed lose the election for Mitt.....the gifts that the average american taxpayer was blackmailed into giving Mitt and his Wall Street Bankster cronies in 2008. A majority of the electorate then decided that putting a fox in the hen house would not be a good thing......just be more 'giving' to Wall Street
Somehow, the Presidency needs to be changed to a single 6-year term. Then the President wouldn't have to spend half of the first term running for re-election. Same with Congress – Senate a single 6-year term and House a single 4-year term. No running for election/re-election before the last 6 months of the term.
Yes, speaking the truth like an adult is bad for politics. You need to keep fooling people, misleading people, attacking your opponent and keep giving stuff for free while running up the debt – that's how you get elected.
The day is coming where the Federal government will be unable to fulfill all the promises it has made. We have spent more than is produced in tax revenue and borrowed against the future to make up for the difference. We are close to maxing out our credit limit with the world. Our lenders will soon begin to demand a higher interest rate and so our borrowing costs will rise. How will Americans react when the government no longer provides for not just for the needy but for half the population.
HEY STEVE JACKSON!!!!!!
I agree with some of your statements, but you ARE WRONG on Obama's green energy investments! Solyndra and a number of other GREEN energy companies that were invested into that failed only comprise 5-8% of the total green energy companies Obama invested in. The other 92 % have been SUCCESSFUL! Please look it up if you don't believe me.
Ryan is the best!! PAUL RYAN 2016!!!
Let's get rid off the liberals who are only destroying the moral and ethical values of America.
Even though Ryan had some outrageous ideas, Mittens doomed the election on his own.
Back to your wiener-mobile Ryan. Try actually reading Ayn Rand instead of claiming you have. Its awful and you would be the bad guy.
When the economy is in such poor shape that many people have been out of work or working several part-time jobs, what message would you focus on if you ran for president of the US? "I'll turn things around by ending gay marriage?"
How about: "I'll rev up the economy by taking food stamps away, because everyone using them is a drain on society?"
What kind of fool thinks normal people long for a 50's-like society of prissy, smug, sanctimonious fundamentalists like Jerky Foulwells or worse, hate-spewing sociopaths like the Westboro Baptist's?
Though Mitt had some missteps, I still think he was the better choice for the Country and for jobs creation. Obama's plans will sink us. He has to stop spending so much. And that $17 trillion national debt has to start getting paid. There are not enough rich people to pay it. Unemployment will be ticking back over 8% with the next reporting and with Obamacare going into effect and the fiscal cliff, it will soon be over 9%. The middle class are in for a tax hike. Poor will suffer with fewer social services, public employees will have to take pay cuts, and we are all going to pay more for everything and have tax hikes on top of it. We are ALL in for a bumpy ride. And yes, I do blame Obama for much of it.
So in 2016 we can expect even more extreme pandering by the Republicans.
Their new strategy will be to tell the American people whatever they want to hear to get their votes and then just do what they want anyway if elected.
Beware ...........
The Republicans hqve not made it into the 20th Century much less the 21st Century in their thinking. Big bisiness tried again to buy the persidency, like they did back in the 1896 election only this time the people saw through their tactics of fear and lies.
Unregulated free markets only work for the rich. The middle class grows in a responsibly regulated environment and these are the people that vote. By betting against the middle class and siding with big business the Republican party my have doomed its self to the trash heap of history.Look at the numbers of former Republicans leaving the party and changing their status to Independent.
Time will tell but unless the Republicans stops pandering to the extreme right and to corporations they should expect to find their party appearing next to the Whig party in history books.
Had Romney got in and something would happen to him, can you imagine Ryan as president? What the GOP did not figure on is many white registered moderate republicians voted for obama as a result of the Tea Partys action over the last two years in congress. When all the dust settles I believe that the TEA Party will have gotten Obama elected!!!
MITT...you are exactly what Republican look like...all white, greedy, old and boaring. You think that other race are nothing but parasite. If you republicans still think that you are oh the saver and protector of America, wake up from your fantasy world, America is color of Bentton.
you think like that and you will end up like mexico or china without the white workers and doers in your country you will be the way of greece very soon
Mitt Romney should have chosen the Hockey mum with lipstick...lol
i am a canadian and i cant believe that you would want to go down this road to socialism i am far from a racest but the comment romney made whether you like it or not is true 47% of you are on the government dole and you like that you are promised a better life style but just like hostess i hope more companies in your country close the doors and you all end up on welfare or food stamps or whatever you want to call it and to think that taxing the rich is going to get you a better life is the biggest joke you will ever hear you will all still be living in the dream that the democtates are going to get you a better life so you can sit at home while the doers of your country provide you a life style
Romney – Two time plus looser, don't go away mad. Just go away.
Secession....really! We saw how that worked out the last time.
In all honesty I would rather take my chances with Obama than Romney any day. I am disappointed in the reactions of some Americans after our president won reelection. Get over it all you racists and bigots-A black man is president and he is here for the next four years. Several of you made promises that you would leave the US if a black man won the presidency-well he did! Take your own advice and be gone! You can try to erase it from your delusional minds but you can never erase history!
The next president may be a women or Hispanic, and the list goes on. Swallow that pill!
Ann, you have to be a fu kin g idiot to think Obama is black or cares about black Americans.
If only those that paid taxes were allowed to vote, then Obama would have been toast.
VOTE DEMOCRAT, COZ IT BE EASIER THAN WORKING
He was predestined to lose!