By International Crisis Group
The International Crisis Group’s Robert Blecher, director of ICG’s Israel/Palestine Project, discusses the latest outbreak of violence between Israel and Gaza, and what it means for the region. The views expressed are Blecher’s own, and are based on a video interview conducted today.
Why is the violence we’re seeing today so much worse than in recent years?
The violence today between Israel and Gaza is the worst that there’s been since Operation Cast Lead four years ago. Israel right now is in an election season and the government is running on a platform of security and stability. It makes them look completely impotent if they can’t stop hundreds of rockets from raining down on their citizenry. The citizenry has a real demand for safety and security.
Also, from the perspective of the Israeli government, they want to change the rules of the game. They want to reestablish deterrence with Hamas – the kind of deterrence that has not existed in a number of years now. So they want to force Hamas to do things differently.
And I think on the Palestinian side, it’s the same, it’s the adverse calculation: that Hamas wants to show that despite the fact that it gets hit hard by Israel, it can continue to send rockets and they will not bow to the pressure being exerted on them from the other side.
What are the implications of all of this, both regional and local?
If this goes on and Israel gets pulled into a ground invasion into Gaza, that can really change the political dynamic completely. What will Israel do if it does end up incurring into and potentially re-occupying parts of the strip? That’s a very important question. That’s an especially important question within the changing regional framework. We’re in a new Middle East, with new actors, and we have both Israel and the Palestinians and Hamas trying to calculate what this violence will mean for each of them vis-à-vis their relationship with Egypt. They have to calculate what this might mean in terms of consequences in the West Bank for a weakened Palestinian Authority that now has a people watching Israel repress Palestinians in Gaza – even as the authorities in the West Bank are shutting down demonstrations in solidarity with Gaza.
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You have questions about Jordan. There are protests happening as we speak in Jordan, which mainly are economic so far. But, it looks horribly unseemly for a Jordanian government to be repressing a citizenry of which 50 or more, 60 percent is Palestinian, at the same time as Israel is going after Palestinians in Gaza.
And then you have the question of Hezbollah, with its back up against the wall in Lebanon because of pressures from the Syrian uprising. And what does Hezbollah do? Does Hezbollah get involved? Does it not want to get involved from Lebanon, so it chooses to maybe try to get involved from Sinai? What does that then mean in terms of Israeli action in Sinai? And the potential reaction of Egyptian public opinion to the Israeli involvement on Egyptian soil? These are incredibly complex questions with regional consequences, as a result of the changes within the Middle East region.
How does this current round of violence end?
This ends most sustainably by a regional agreement to respond to the regional challenges that I was just talking about. What we’ve seen over the past couple years is a succession of bilateral agreements, or indirect bilateral agreements, between Israel and Hamas that obviously have not gotten to the root causes.
In order to get to the root causes you’re going to have to normalize life in Gaza, both on the border with Egypt as well as the border with Israel. That should go along with a normalization of Hamas’s political position. It has done so to an extent regionally, but that’s going to have to be broader if we want to sustainably end this violence.
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There needs to be real cessation of rocket attacks and violence for Israel, because hundreds of rockets landing on Israeli territory and terrorizing Israeli citizens is obviously not acceptable either for the Israeli public or for its government.
Finally, there needs to be a resolution or an agreement for what role the Ramallah-based PA in the West Bank plays in this Gaza equation. If we were to have a resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, there needs to be a Palestinian entity to implement that agreement. Until all of these pieces are included, the situation is Gaza, the violence for Israel, the West Bank piece, and the regional piece, how these three actors are going to interact with their regional neighbors and partners, you’re not going to have a sustainable resolution. What we’ve learned is that until there is a regional solution, the bilateral violence cannot stop.
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Whats really sad is that this so easy to fix but the elected get in the way No GOD on earth created this feud but the MEDIA did!
Israel has an election comming up and murdering Hamas leader should get netanyahoo re-elected at the cost of innocent civilians being murdered, wayy to goo netanyahoo
right, Jason, it is so simple. KIlling a highly elusive terrorist in your own sweet time for an election is the dumbest idea ever. THey saw the opportunity and they took the chance and got their man. I am sure it has a little bit to do with election but at the same time, you seem to be forgetting 100;s of rockets that have been constantly being fired into Israel that weren't responded to. As soon as Israel responded, then the whole world had an opinion. I guess it is ok to throw rockets into your neighboring countries but not ok to respond in kind.
This problem will not end until Hamas is wiped out. That won't happen until the Gaza Strip is annexed to Israel so they can clean the swamp of the Hamas insects. Harsh but reality.
What makes it even more interesting is the Hamas terror group put those rockets in civilian locations such as schools, housing districts and other civilian location. Then, they blame the jews when return fire comes back at the same location that their rockets were fired from.
HAMAS knows what they are doing, and then will do anything to make the Jews look bad. This is a prime example.
I guess they didn't learn their lesson 4 years ago. DONT POKE THE BEAR!
sending missles on civilians just to kill someone is good?
Israel kills a terrorist and destroy the missles they send to kill civilians. any country would have done it.
Eliminating terrorist filth makes the world a better place. So yes.. way to go Israel, you're doing the world a favor.
Israeli PM Yitzhak Rabin, wanted peace and compromise. He championed the Oslo accords recognising the PLO and giving partial control of the Gaza strip to the PNA.For his troubles, in 1995, a right wing Orthodox jew,gunned him down .This is the same right wing of Netanyahu. Enough said.
Your comment showed your ignorance....
It is amazing how incredibly stoopid you are and how racist anti-semitic some lowlife like you can be. You shoulkd go to Gaza and hnelp the palestinians and perhaps you would be silenced forever.
Jason, Netanyahu was going to be easily re-elected before zapping Hamas this week. Now, if something goes wrong, he could be in trouble. He is taking a risk by retaliating strongly. Try reading and thinking before talking. Usually helps.
i agree with you jason!!
We Americans are dumb and part of the killings of innocent civillians. If USA tells zionist colony to stop, it cannot dare attack any neighbor. It knows we will come for their rescue, if and when they need. SHAME ON US who are part of killers of innocent human beings!
Jason, are you really that stupid? Hamas is responsible for starting every conflict with Israel from the day one.I think now is the norm for people as nincompoops like you to place the blame on Israel for not ignoring the death of their people.
It all depends on what you call a terrorist, and who is the terrorist. In my opinion the Palestinian Israeli issue is so simple to understand.
1. Jews claim that they were there thousands of years ago in that territory and are descendants of David
2. However during these thousand years Jews gradually lost this territory, right?
3. Jews can't come back all of the sudden and create their own state under the belief that this territory belonged to them thousands of years ago, if that territory belonged to them then fine come and live there as Jews but you have no right to create a country named Israel there, by killing thousands of innocent people. And you cannot artificially create a country at some other country's expense.
4. Jews killed and massacred innocent Palestinians and somehow they expect to live in peace, really? how is that possible? this is like someone comes in your home kills 2 or 3 family members and the next morning says good morning and let's go back to peace. Also in this process they occupied your house and they give you a bedroom to live in, and when you ask for more (because initially the entire house belonged to you) they beat you, wound you, kill more family members to make you afraid so that you can't ask for more. But do you think you can really live there in peace with them ever? Really?????
5. One thing is certain, you can occupy a land, kill its people for hundreds or thousand years but that land will never be yours because for as long as these Palestianins continue to live and breathe they will fight for their land. And who knows maybe in 10 years, 50 or 100 years world powers may change and Palestinians become stronger then what will happen to the Jews? will they be wiped out? Maybe, maybe not but they should seriously change their politics because their politics are awful. Also you can't leave this legacy for next generations because man this is seriously wrong.
6. Also they call Palestinians terrorists, really? their acts and their methods are of terrorist' ones however one should ask the question, why do they blow themselves up? really who wants to do that, no matter how religious you are it is hard to go through that? Nobody blows themselves up, unless you really pushed them against the wall. How would you feel not being able to leave your town to go anywhere? how would you feel if you lived in a jewish dominant state (because someone decided to occupy your country) and your kids have no future, they can't go to college etc? These are the questions that you should ask before you take any sides. Here in US a blackout happens and people have no electricity for 5 days and they get edgy and start acting crazy.
This is all so sad, but history tells us that you can't occupy one's land forever because everything has an ending. Also didn't Jews learn that force cannot bend nobody down? what did the Nazis do to them and couldn't bend the jews down? I think those who have more power should be more vigilant and should promote peace, democracy, racial equality , gender equality, because war doesn't bring nothing good, it just messes up people for life and and leaves a bad legacy for younger generations.
(New Yorker)- Short, concise background, but you leave out the part where the Jewish folks won a war...or two... So they exercised a form of hostile takeover, like the fundamentalists did in Iran right? So it's not like they "stole" land, or came into someone's house. Would the US Government ignore Native American rocket attacks on Washington? Israel has been recognized as a legitimate state by all the western governments. Remember, the Palestinians had a lot of public opinion support before they started blowing themselves up. Ghandi didn't light himself on fire, Mandella didn't order rocket attacks. The Palestinians could have chosen to live in Israel and elect officials or protest the right way and they'd be better off now, instead of horrifying the world with suicide bombings and rocket attacks on schools....
(PerryHair) Right, but the war they won was against who? and it would be a take over for example if the people go against the government and win and take majority of the government. However by taking over it doesn't grant you the right to create/form a country at the expense of another country? or does it? if you won the revolution/war then form a government but do not expel millions of people to other countries and form a country. And the fundamentalists in Iran didn't create a country within Iran, a country? that is the difference.
And do not compare Israel and Palestine to US and Native Americans. America was a new found land detached from the rest of the world, Palestine wasn't, and Palestine had thousands of years of history it is a sacred land. And as far as I know Native Americans have a lot more rights in US than Palestinians do in Israel and they even don't have to pay taxes. Their children do not get killed and they do not live in an enclave like Palestinians in Gaza. Furthermore they are not controlled by the police on the bounds of the territories.
And let me tell you something, I guarantee that if you had to live in a city blocked completely from the outside world with no future and prosperity for you, your family or your kids you would have 3 options: 1. escape the city, 2. commit suicide, 3. blow yourself up or do anything crazy.
You're saying "The Palestinians could have chosen to live in Israel and elect officials or protest the right way and they'd be better off now, instead of horrifying the world with suicide bombings and rocket attacks on schools...." and my response to you on that is:
The Jews could have chosen to live in Palestine/Jordan and elect officials or protest the right way and they'd be better off now, instead of starting campaigns of mass murder killings of men and children, women and elderly so that they could wipe out the entire ethnic population of Palestine in order to create the state of Israel, so that then, they can offer Palestinians the peace and the right to elect their officials in a democratic way. And what Israel is doing right now is exactly what you said horrifying the world with killing innocent children and innocent people.
Jason.... Hamas backed by Iran are the ones who started this! Why is it that Israel gets the blame...for years the attacks are always directed at Israel, not the other way around! The main stream media is blinding you just as much as Obama is...Satan is everywhere! and I demand that the main stream media stop posting pics of Palestinians being attacked by Israelis, when the pics are NOT accurate...photoshopped or they are from a different place and time!!! If the main stream media wants to depict Hamas as the innocent ones, then they can all Get Out of the USA and live with them and be reporters for the Terrorists of the world! and take Obama with you!
jews came and took a land form palestinians/arabs, and pushed them out of their land, really? and theres no future for the kids. wow , so israel does not pay for arabs living in israel and for their education?. there was nothing ther, you people live in the dummp and thats what Gaza is now, where ever jews live land prospers, and there is future, the only reason arabs do not like jews is for its existance, it s kinda pathetic and sad, i understand, that a mother sends her child to die so that he kills some jews with him, pretty sad, i would be violant as well if my mother didnt love me. arab countries have no future and no education. sad sad sad, no smart pple to lead them, only brainwashed fanatics who have no opinion. you people are controlled, and have no free will.
(New Yorker) Sorry, just saw your reply. I do understand your points, however, the Jews argue that the Arabs took it from them to begin with and so on into infinity. What I meant was that, though we frown upon it now to say the least, when a foreign power takes control of another country, it becomes a struggle for recognition. Israel is, for better or worse, part of the world now. So the Palestinians can either take it back by force, or take it back through political means. Whether you call them "freedom fighters" or "terrorists" depends on your perspective. But if it's a war they're fighting, then they have to be prepared to face the consequences instead of fighting, then calling on the world to help them after they throw a punch. It's a horrible situation to be sure, but if they can't take it back, and they can't stand to live there (and I don't blame them as you say), then you're faced with an internal conflict....have to leave. I wish there was a "humane" solution, but 60 years says this isn't going to sort itself out
Historical facts. The land of Israel has never been occupied by people called palestinians. This term was coined recently in 1900. For 2000 years the area was ruled by succession of European invaders and Moslem invaders whose descendants now call themselves "Palestinians". Historically the land belongs to Jews and was rightly given back to remants of Jews in 1948 whose populations was boosted up by arrival of European Jews and other jews from Arab countries were they were scattered. Hence for palestinians to claim the whole land as theirs is historically inaccurate. Thats why all archeological digs have found jewish artifacts and no palestinian artifacts because they were recent comers to the land and can not claim what is not historically theirs.
There are no winners, just losers. Israel might march into Gaza and eventually march back out. The game will start all over again in due time. In my opinion there is no solution, Palestinians want the entire land back and that objective will remain for ever. Israel will never have peace, as I said no winners just losers.
If pushed hard enough and far enough Israel has the power to end the palestinian problem once and for all and to shock the rest of the arab world back to reality. I expect the arabs will continuie to push until this becomes a reality. Remember Israel has the weapons to nearly exterminate the entire arab population. In their death throws I am sure they will resort to using those weapons and taking as many with them as possible.
There's no such thing as the "Palestinians want the land back"...it was never theirs to begin with just as there were never any Palestinians...they're mostly Jordanians and that's where they should go back...Israel belongs to Jews and will remain in Jewish hands for eternity! get used to it!
For United Nations to be effective it has to reform it's self and first abolish the VETO POWER system. UN has become the puppet organization for those countries holding veto power and always bias and use the organization for their own political interest and never get thing done. It's now a useless organization.
Why all thiis fuss over Gaza when Israel goes on taking the West Bank one house at a time! There will be no peace and yes Hesbola and Egypt are wild cards.
Palestinian people in Gaza have suffered for many years under extreme blockage which also killed hundreds of children and many other people through out the strip. Palestinian wants to live in peace just like everyone else but Israel is not even allowing basic items to enter Gaza strip, so imagine you are in a large prison without clean water, no medicine, no food, no money and for sure no place to go,, it is not easy.... Unemployment is rock sky and many people tried to enter Gaza from the sea but again Israel attacked every ship gets close ,,, ex the Turkish ship,,, 9 turkish civilians died from that attack.... if Israel goes to a war with Palestinian,, many many many children will die ,,, it will make the problem even worse and worse, my opinion is simply give them the right to live,, give them the chance to get involve with the outside world and educate them .. and for the person who claims no such thing called Palestine, I highly advise you to read more about the history of Palestine.
Kal
You are so ignorant, you make me want to cry. What history of Palestine ?
There is no such thing!!! The name was given to the region by the Roman Empire, Before Arabs even existed! And the people that lived there. what do you know... They were Jews!!!!!!!! Read a book idiot! Archaeological findings confirmed Jewish settlements all over Israel. The land was called Eretz Israel, before it was changed to Palestine by... The Romans! So where did these so called Palestinians come from? Jordan. That is still about 60% of it's population are Palestinians. Please learn history before you make up a new one, or buy into the biggest lie since the catholic church decreed that the world is flat!
As for the horrible treatment of Palestinians, Read amnesty reports, there conditions are considered better than most Arab countries in the world. The only thing holding them back is Hamas and the stupid people they choose in their so-called democratic elections. The truth is billions of dollars from all over the world streams to the Palestinians, but the population doesn't get a cent of it... wanna know why, Hamas. before that Arafat, who's widow is leaving a life of riches beyond your imagination from money originally destined to be given to the population.
As always Arabs are each others worse enemy, Look at Syria. .
Have the Israelis thought about the potential for future claims that may be brought against them should all this eventuallu be resolved?
Maybe now the American people understand what they got when they voted for Obama and his failed foreign policies, especially the egregious Libya attack for which Obama has blood on his hands. I'm waiting now to see what Obama promised away before his re-election to the Russians when he boasted to the Russian premier at the time that Obama would have more flexibiilty after his re-election.
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid!
There is a crazy cool aid drinker just like you at my office and she had a romney bedazzle on election day. As if the entire world rotated around Obama... get a grip, he's along for the ride just like the rest of us, dummy.
You're an idiot. Yes it is very sad that 4 Americans were killed in Libya and we should find out all the information about the situation so it doesn't happen again. But where were your concerns when Condy Rice and the W gang led us into a war based on false information where 1000's of Americans and countless 1000's of innocent Iraquis were killed.
Sounds like More Wong to me.
To hell with that entire region. America should stop giving the Jews billions per year, turn a blind eye to that ENTIRE region and let whatever happens to them happen. We shouldn't let ANYONE from that entire region into our country and ignore all of those idiots. All they know and love is war......................and there is nothing holy anywhere over there. Anything that MIGHT have been holy has been blown to dust by all of the warring factions. Let the Jews and Arabs kill each other and leave America out of it!
By saying this is "easy" to fix you show that you really do not have the slightest clue what you're talking about. If it was "easy" it would have been done long ago. You're not smarter than the people over there. You do not understand what's happening better than the people over there. Nothing is easy. Nothing is simple. Everything is complex, multifaceted, challenging, and riddled with pitfalls.
i think for the first time ever i have actually seen a person who has the ability to extend empathy. I applaud you for your wisdom!
I so agree with you. Nothing is easy, simple or obvious in todays world.
To hell with that entire region. America should stop giving the Jews billions per year, turn a blind eye to that ENTIRE region and let whatever happens to them happen. We shouldn't let ANYONE from that entire region into our country and ignore all of those idiots. All they know and love is war......................and there is nothing holy anywhere over there. Anything that MIGHT have been holy has been blown to dust by all of the warring factions. Let the Jews and Arabs kill each other and leave America out of it!
You sure are GRUMPY!..........But I must agree with you on ONE thing! (one big thing). We have to STOP giving/supporting Israel's military with billions dollars in aid, just so they can use these the "kiling machines" they purchase with the aid money to kill & maim many INNOCENTS! under the guise of "protecting the Holy Land" I believe there may be hallowed Holy ground there in the middle east. But the present occupants in Israel Net& their government sure done believe "any of it". But do use it to lure the VERY VERY STUPID & brainwashed evangelicals in this country USA to keep supporting them. and help the already overpowered Jewish Lobby, to gain more backers in this country. What a SHAME!!
Makes me cry, literally What horrors!
Right, so here i am responding to yet another idiotic remarks!
Listen carefully, Israel doesn't just take from America, it gives back ten folds!
Half of your technology today is courtesy of Israel, Your weapons, your medical devices, your agriculture, your everything!!!!!
Your goverment knows that. hell the silicon vally knows that. why else do you think there are so many innovation centers, and centers of excellence of major global companies all over the world in Israel? Because you all want part of the pie, and believe it or not, Israel is it!
We are not just called the Start Up nation, that's who we are! We built our country in less than 100 years into the blooming Eden that it is now. It was a wasteland before, don't take my word for it, Mark Twain wrote about his journey to the land of Israel in 1867. He called it a swampland.
The relationship between US and Israel are very good, not just because they are financially beneficial to both parties, like it or not, but because we also share the same values and Israel is the only democracy in the middle east, the only one! If you talk about abandoning the only state that stood by the US through thick and thin, then you are no different than the same people that stood and watched while 6 millions Jews, and over millions of others crippled, gay, gypsies, Russians, and other nationalities were murdered by the Nazis in WW2.
Until the Arabs are willing to accept Israel there will be no peace but only temporary truces. We all know that, so why not say so out right. You got it right in http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/15/why-land-for-peace-is-dead/?hpt=hp_bn2
The israel – Gaza violence means, is that the israelis to use the Palestinians as a target to test/caliper the Iron Dome before it goes to war with Iran. This is the tragedy of the Palestinians.
You are an idiot! The dome is a defensive weapon. It shoots down rockets aimed at civilians, it doesn't retaliate or shoots back at the Palestinians. Do you know anything at all? or are you just an ignorant stupid little boy?
And the Dome is active for over 2 years now, because Israel is bombarded by rockets in the south for over 13 years!
7 years ago Israel cleared out of the west bank, leaving it in the control of the Palestinians. Instead of doing something useful with it, they put up rocket launchers which means that in the past 7 years they have been able to target about 25% of Israel's land, I.e civilians!
I wish for once i'd actually run into knowledgeable people instead of idiots like you, really it's getting tiresome and ridicules, if you can't read or won't even try, then shut up.
The israel – Gaza violence means? is that the israelis to use the Palestinians as a target to test/caliper the Iron Dome before it goes to war with Iran. Unfortunately, this is the tragedy of the Palestinians.
I am glad these terrorists are finally getting a taste of their own medicine. The more of them that get blown to bits the better.
Big mistake. By taking this action, Netanyahu is only risking his re-elected.
And for all of you whom critisize they Israelis, try an live under same threat for so many years, and try to deal with terror. It is so wonderful to have your great life in safe places and tell others how live of protet their life. Israel
wanted Gaza to be independance, but they do not want it, they want the land of Israel to be their. Well, here is the problem, they will keep live in dirt and war until they will change. It is all a matter of education. think about it: When the Israeli army kill an arab citizen, child or woman, no one happy in Israel about it. When they kill an Israeli citizen, they dance and give sweets for free on the streets, by the way, they did the same on 09/11. Good luck to the western world.
After WW2 the Jews had no where to go peacefully. This was certain. This is the result of WW2. Jews are under threat of destruction because they have no land. Palestine wants the Holy Temple which in turn is suicidal and will bring about armaggeddon. Neither will recieve aid from me. I could care less about the burning babies bodies in the street.
Hamas is not doing anything that any other country would not do if someone came and stole and killed their people. I will openly state if another country attacked the US I would be doing exactly what Hamas is doing.
(PerryHair) Right, but the war they won was against who? and it would be a take over for example if the people go against the government and win and take majority of the government. However by taking over it doesn't grant you the right to create/form a country at the expense of another country? or does it? if you won the revolution/war then form a government but do not expel millions of people to other countries and form a country. And the fundamentalists in Iran didn't create a country within Iran, a country? that is the difference.
And do not compare Israel and Palestine to US and Native Americans. America was a new found land detached from the rest of the world, Palestine wasn't, and Palestine had thousands of years of history it is a sacred land. And as far as I know Native Americans have a lot more rights in US than Palestinians do in Israel and they even don't have to pay taxes. Their children do not get killed and they do not live in an enclave like Palestinians in Gaza. Furthermore they are not controlled by the police on the bounds of the territories.
And let me tell you something, I guarantee that if you had to live in a city blocked completely from the outside world with no future and prosperity for you, your family or your kids you would have 3 options: 1. escape the city, 2. commit suicide, 3. blow yourself up or do anything crazy.
You're saying "The Palestinians could have chosen to live in Israel and elect officials or protest the right way and they'd be better off now, instead of horrifying the world with suicide bombings and rocket attacks on schools...." and my response to you on that is:
The Jews could have chosen to live in Palestine/Jordan and elect officials or protest the right way and they'd be better off now, instead of starting campaigns of mass murder killings of men and children, women and elderly so that they could wipe out the entire ethnic population of Palestine in order to create the state of Israel, so that then, they can offer Palestinians the peace and the right to elect their officials in a democratic way. And what Israel is doing right now is exactly what you said horrifying the world with killing innocent children and innocent people.
8000 rockets fired from Gaza into Israel in the last 3 years, and they call Israel the aggressor? I stand with Israel. Wipe Gaza clean
What is happening is not Arab Spring, whatever that is in the first place, but a continuation of warfare. Not only have human lives been lost and hatred bred for years, but think of the economic loss to both the Palestinians and the Isralies over the past thrity or so years...aqre both that stupid that they cannot live in peace and prosper? If Arabs really cared, they would give the entire Sinai to the Palestinians, but that will never happen.
Is it valid to raise the concern that both sides are quite possibly being duped into this conflict?
Before the Benghazi attacks, there were calls to move business infrastructure to Libya after the fall of Gadafi.
This would move the country closer to economic stability, and this benefits the global economy.
Then the attack occured. Only an enemy of the Arab world would supress the economic future of Libya and at the exact same time, only an enemy of the US would attack our consulate. Now, if we move this line of thought to the current events in Israel/Pal. taken with the timing, we all need to ask ourselves, if we are being duped.
http://pulverizedtonearpower.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/pulverized-to-near-power/
Of COURSE we're being duped! Not by governments and media, though as much as by ourselves; we've eagerly chosen to believe Islam is peaceful and tolerant, so when it behaves naturally, we think our governments and media are trying to dupe us somehow. It is the Muslims who are duping us, and it is WE, who snarf up their pablum of lies, who are their very willing victims.
Politically, most governments in the free world have to try to give their public what they want. With our public, throughout the free world, thinking of Islam as benign, our leaders have to follow suit.
If we, as the public, ever DO study Islam and refuse to deny the horrific realities of it, our leaders will follow suit there, too.
So YOU are among the willing and eager duped.
As a scholar of Islam since 1994, I can say this flatly:
Islam is the worst threat humanity has ever faced.
Now will you crack a book, so you can confirm/deny what I just said? Or will you just keep on grousing about being duped by media and government? How about a bit of "fact checking" on your own? The real truth of Islam is easily available. Muslims know that most people won't be bothered to study it. Those who DO study it thoroughly will learn about the hoax of "peace and tolerance" in Islam. Those who do NOT study Islam never do learn this.
So in due time, we will ALL learn these hard truths and realities – the hard way – when the jihadis are on our own doorsteps. If you think that can't happen, that they wouldn't DARE, it shows how thoroughly duped you are.
Muslims are the most thoroughly-practiced conquerors the world has ever known. To them, jihad and conquest is LIFE ITSELF.
You might read my other posting, and crack a book or two (Quran and Hadith), so maybe YOU won't remain duped. You won't, though, will you?
Which is precisely how the Muslims want you to be – duped and vulnerable to them.
doabitofhomework: if you have done any homework which you have not, you would not come up with hateful, propoganda, and lying comments. Further how can you be a scholar on Islam when you know nothing of Islam? You are obviously jewish pretending you to be somthing else, and your rhetoric and false statements should be made in the Israeli paper the Haeeretz which contains anti-islamic messages along with hate messages that lead to violence, its people like you that just want to watch the world burn, you're the terrorist
Jason, maybe you are the one who is duped too. Do a little research and find it our for yourself. Islam is a hateful religion. Sure, most religions do have some sort of hateful elements to it, especially Abrahamic ones, but today, in this century, Islam is the one which is responsible for 2/3 of the world conflicts. Each and every one of these Jhihadis quote from Quran and admit they do it in the name of their God and Mohammed. You go back and study it and it is there, in plain black and white. Islam is the greatest threat to humanity in our age, with its backward looking imbeciles trying to dictate the morality of the world and who refuses to tolerate plurality of voices and perspectives. Look at the 57 or so muslim majority countries and you will notice not one of them have signed the United Nations human rights declaration and instead came up with their own in 1996 or somewhere where Islam is above all. They come into civilized countries and use the secular laws to further their own ends. These people must be rooted out and thrown back into the decaying embers of middle east purgatory and left there.
There were about 50 million Native Americans living in the U.S. in 1492. Today, there are 5 million.......where was Islam in all this?Who controls the news?
So, you are finally starting to see the role of Iran in all the trouble springing up in the mkiddle east. Most people can't put 2 and 2 together. Iran sends arms to gaza through the tunnels from Siani, they send missiles to Hezbollah in Lebanon through syria, they are involved in the Syrian civil war, they are threatening the US and most of the gulf states and they had a hand in killing our ambassador in Libya. They are building nuclear weapons and we seem unwilling to stop them. Get ready, something is going to have to happen soon.
truthtodare, you are obviously not as educated as you think in these affairs of the middle east. Islam is not the problem here, people using Islam are the problem.(And when I say 'people' I am referring to both Muslims and non-Muslims) The root of most of the conflicts we see today is driven by Power, Control, Greed, the enormous gap between the rich and the poor, the economic control of super powers on poorer nations and might I add the unbelievable greed of the leaders of these poorer nations. The world is going to continue to witness these conflicts till the end of time and religion is going to be used when either side feel it benefits their cause.
The only way to reach closure here is to continue making calls for increased business infrastrucutre in Libya as a partner and the carry it through. But now with way more attention. Now is not the time to be afraid, but quite the opposite. Lets have courage to grow the global economy and fight poverty. It is now or never.
The ONLY way to reach closure is for the islamic terrorists to put a stop to their violence.
Amen, Emily. Amen.
Israel has consistently said that it will trade land and accept a new Palestinian state IF the Palestinians and their Arab brothers stop killing Israelis and live in peace with their neighbors. But the Palestinians consistently reject this. They reject it with words at the negotiating table and they reject it with suicide bombers, rocket and mortars aimed at civilian targets. Why does the media only pay attention when Israel finally responds to the hundreds of rocket and mortar attacks on Israeli civilians over the past few months? Why does the media never seem to notice months and months of Arab attacks on Israeli civilians? Why do they only notice when Israel finally retaliates by attacking a militant leader, a legitimate military target who hides behind women and children?
We seem to be failing in our attempts, no matter how feeble, to fight poverty here in the U.S.
Assad is desperarate...I suspect under all reserves that Iran and Assad are behind Hamas to divert the Revolution of Syria and try to focus the anger of Arabs towards Israel . Israel is defending its children from behing killed by its ennemies who want its destruction....We are assisting in the escalate and also about the fact that Assad wants to save his neck by trying "undercover" to unlish a full war in that part of the World...I really suspect such a move from him...
You're probably essentially correct, but you are overly focused on the details, rather than on the real problem.
There is no outcome in Syria that could be thought of as an improvement by the free world. Whichever way it goes, it'll be BAD NEWS.
If Assad is victorious, Iran will retain its foothold there, and I don't need to tell you how undesirable that would be. Also Assad's atrocities would continue. Even so, though, the government would remain secular.
But if any group of rebels succeeds, Syria will promptly become yet another Islamic State. At the very least, Assad has maintained a secular government, and THAT is what all rebel groups are seeking to put an end to. Look at the lovely little "bouquet" of new Islamic States which have come into being in only the last two years. Syria is going to become another one.
Our government is now trying to find a rebel group who truly DO want democracy and rights. They won't find even one, but what they're likely to find are the best liars. We've GOT to realize that expecting Muslims to EVER react the way most people in the world WOULD react is always a mistake. Their ways and thoughts and beliefs are wildly different from those anywhere else. They are not merely different, but are entirely aside from, "other-than", anything on the planet.
You will please note that when rebels overthrew their governments, the leaders of those governments had maintained a secular state. This is probably the main reason the U.S. had historically supported them at all: to keep those nations from becoming precisely what they HAVE become: new Islamic States. And the worst is now yet to come.
Syria is next.
I'd be in anguish for the people being killed there, except for one thing: they're all Muslims, doing what Muslims do best: killing and conquering. They're doing what they WANT to do. I still ache for the innocent children and those who are not Muslims, but how can I ache for the Muslim adults, who are merely doing what Muslims DO? How can I ache for people who revere violence, atrocity and slaughtering?
The real problem, of course, is Islam. Islam rubs off compassion, the ability to compromise, and all reverence for human life. In their place, it injects bottomless hate, love of slaughter, and a single-track minded hunger for conquest. We ignore Islam and its effects, very much to our own peril. How can I feel compassion for people whose god tells them I deserve to be slaughtered? Silly me.
Duped? Come on that is ridiculous,The Jews are stealing the land from people who have lived on it for hundreds of years. They left it long ago and think they can just come in and take it because its theirs and they are the "Chosen People" LMAO. The US and the UK chose the wrong ethical move by helping them go to PALESTINE.
Time and again the Arabs have spoken through bombs, suicide-terrorist attacks, and missiles raining down indiscriminately about the peace they desire. As long as their pardigm is to allow the most brutal element based in fundamental religious ideology control their lives and dictate their foreign policy, then this is what they will get. Have they not learned this yet? Why is it taking so long for them to figure this out? If you keep getting beat up for provoking someone, you stop provoking them and try to find a way to get what you are trying to get without getting beat up. But this problem is not only isolated to Israel and Gaza, it is throughout the Arab world.
When a kid continually teases a dog, the dog will eventually bite. So the lesson is, if you don't want to get bitten, stop teasing the dog, and he'll leave you alone.
Hamas keeps teasing Israel with rockets, and they wonder why they get attacked!!?? Stop shooting rockets at your neighbour, and he'll leave you alone.
What to do if the dog occupies my home? Do you really believe Israel is eager to negociate an acceptable solution for the Gazzans?
In that case, you have a whole bunch of radical .. I mean dogs with Rabies, that can't play nice with the little jack russell. that Jack russell only gets a small little pen, and the rabid dogs get free range and tons of land. then the rest of us need to call the pound and get the dogs euthanized becuase they bite Israel, America, Canada, Britain, India, and themselves withh terror attacks! Blame you're ideals and your leadership instead of the rest of the world and their ambitions to move forward.
CANADA – you say that Israel is like the big rabid dogs that are taking away the land of the little jack russell? I think you have your people groups mixed up. Look at the tiny little plot of land that Israel has left because they gave a lot of it away in land for peace deals. Let the people who are called Palastinians go back to the countries like Jordan, Turkey and other places where they can have big yards to play in. They just want to take what little Israel has left just because they don't want Israel to exist. I think you may want to look at the situation a little more closely.
ummm... no I think you just misread my post.... the Rabid dogs are the Arab nations.... I'll give you some time to re-read it. and the little pen and jack russell is Israe...... nvm. I'll draw ya a picture later.
YOU
take my water
burn my olive trees
destroy my house
take my jobs
steal my land
imprison my father
kill my mother
bomb my country
starve us all
humuliate us all
BUT
I am blame : I shot a rocket back
SHAME...
Israel has tried and tried again to negotiate with the palestinians and just when it seems they will reach agreement some palestinian faction will bomb a bus or a cafe opr send a bunch of rockets into Israel or they will make new and unrteasonable demands. Israel has been trying for 40 years to solve their problems with the Arabs but the Arabs will have no part of it. If the palestinians truly wanted a coun try free of the Israeli's they could have had it years ago but it would have settled nothing. Israel pulled out of Gaza 3 or 4 years ago and turned everything over to the Palestinians. The very next day the Palestinians started firing rockets into southern Israel and have continued to do it ever since. How many on this blog are aware that Israel has provided jobs in Israel to the palestinians and they used this access into Israel to detonate bombs. How many are aware that Isrtael has provided humanitarian aid to Gaza free of charge food, water, medicine and other goods and allows the free flow of goods and materials into Gaza through Israel only preventing shipments of materials that could be used for military purposes.
Excuse me?? Palestinians are under occupation!! Trowing rockets are the only way they can be heard! If Israel never occupied Palestine this would never happen, so again the roots of the problem comes from Israel (and europe, hitler etc..)! matter of fact these rockers are a sign of strength and hope! They WILL trow rockets until the day they get their country back! They could have divided the country in two, but no.. Do you even know how they treat Palestinians? It's as if they live in a shelter.. if a country tries to send them food, they will boycott the ship! Nobody can help them.. and they have no saying in this world.. How would you feel? They speak to rockets, that's their way of expressing the situation.. They've tried to talk things out.. but it didn't work :/
I think this has nothing to do with religion. Gazzans want to negociate a part of their land back and war is the only solution they can see at this time. Do you see another solution?
They got it in 2005! Then Hamas took it over and started firing mortars and rockets at Israel! It's amazing how you people just blatantly ignore history just to maintain the party line!
Hakim, you are a joke. Gazans elected Hamas and Hamas refuses to recognize the right of Israel to be a jewish state. There are only two options, One Gazans can accept terrorist as their leaders (and pay the price) or chose other leadership willing and able to make peace deals.
Religion has nothing to do with this.... thats laughable. is seems like Islam has something to do about everything. Even me putting Christmas lights on my house, when it offends the Muslims. (yea thats an actual issue in Canada... can you belive that? ) The modern world doesn't uphold your values, but your growing Muslim population is the only bed you have left to fall back on.
Hakim – stop talking real estate for a second and realize that one people cannot use TERRORISM to get what they want. STOP KILLING innocent people and try diplomacy.
it has been taken by force, can't be taken back but by force ..... so keep lying to yourselves and keep talking but we are gonna keep on fighting till we get our land back .....
To anti-Israel: Then you will all die, and rest assured, you will if you think you can stand against the combined might of the civilized world.
I thought Muslims more than anybody would know it's nobody's land, it's Gods land.... Oh ya, I forgot... Allah detests the Jew. nvm, my bad... I guess thats only a Christian sentiment.
Hakim,
During the six-day-war, Israel was attacked by Egypt, Jordan and Syria. Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Algeria and others also contributed troops and arms to the Arab forces. The Arabs literally bet the farm in 1967... And lost.
Israel stopped the attacks, repelled the invaders and captured the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) from Jordan, Golan Heights from Syria, Sinai and Gaza from Egypt.
Now, please name ANY Arab country that has given back territory gained by military action.
Any Arab living in Gaza should thank God that Israel does not play by Arab rules.
Think about what would have happened to the Jews in Israel, if the Arabs had won.
If you need something else to compare the situation to...
I'm sure that Mexico would like to have Texas and California back. What do you think their chances are?
I am amazed by all of you idiots who post comments about things they know nothing about.
The only honest thing to say for almost all of you is "I dont understand what is going on".
Certainly true for me so I make no comments.
So shut the h$ell up you all and go back to your frozen dinners.
This always confuses me. I thought the Jews were there first? If not, then were did the Jews originate? At least back to biblical times, the Jews have lived in Isreal. They were conqured and forced out a few times, but always managed to come back.
8000 rockets fired from Gaza into Israel in the last 3 years, and they call Israel the aggressor? I stand with Israel. Wipe Gaza clean
The News fails to CLEARLY report how Israel has responded to rocket fire.
I wonder what you would do if your country was occupied for nearly 50 years and subjected to constant humiliation by others. If Israel want lasting peace, they should get the hell out of stole Palestinian lands and stop building illegal settlements, illegal wall barriers and separating families.
You're an idiot, Jewish people were there long before Islam was even a religion.
AMEN <3 Good to someone who's willing to educate themselves.. I beat half of these "Pro Israel" people are americans, lol.. they have barely any knowledge outside their little states..
Good joint, eh, king?
The Israelis evacuated every Israeli from Gaza in 2005. No one prevented the Gazans from turning their little strip into a Mediterranean resort destination. Except the Gazans and Hamas, whose determination to wipe out Israel is their only goal, and who will howl in protest about return fire when they spend every penny of their economy and every ounce of their international agenda on attacking Israel.
If I was a Jew I would being telling myself the same lie your telling now
To be honest, few really want another war in the region, in which civilians would undoubtedly suffer as much as the militants. It's election soon in Israel, a war in the Gaza Strip might not benefit Netanyahu. The region had just recovered from the short war 4 years ago and Palestinians want to focus on their economy. Egypt has its own problems to tackle at home.
That election you mentioned was called early the PM. He is looking for a mandate from the people in turbulent times. Israel's democracy must hold elections more often and on-demand as regional issues demand it. Pls, understand just how different it is from America.
Before Cast Lead we developed something we call modulated warfare, so I know what is in the large folder called Operation South that Netanyahu and Barak open up when there is escalations in the south. Hamas I don't advise it, yes the gates of hell.
Just a general question: (This is actually part of my homework for a Middle Eastern Studies class I am taking at university)
I'd like to hear some people's opinions on how/when they expect the overall violence and ongoing civil wars throughout the middle east to end? Speculating of course that eventually it will quell. Obviously this is a very complicated and difficult question to attempt to answer, but I'm focusing mostly on the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Does anyone think it will just take time for a new younger generation to come of age and to change the cultural dynamic of the 2 nations? or is this an vicious cycle of violence and history that has no forseeable end?
There is a poem by Mamoud Darwish that depicts an israeli and a palestinian stuck in a deep well, so it begs the question of, who will be the one out first, or who will come to help them escape-?
the violence wont stop. my forcast is that we have a hundred or more years of conflict ahead. maybe the muslims will change, maybe the israelis will wipe them off the face of the plant, but no Real end is ahead.
It will end until all the Moslem will be burned.
The answer will come from Europe when the Moslem will be a threat. We can see today that the popularity of the extreme right wings is increased rapidly. The history repet itself and there willl be a battle between the West and the Moslems.
I predict that it will start in 2039.
Why not 2038 or 2040? Hahahahahahahahaahha
this will never end until we get attacked by aliens but then we will be at war with them so sadly it will never end.
Tell your dream to Jews might be they praise you........... listen carefully this is just dream that All Muslims will be burned. there is no possibility of that dream.
Bring Hitler back.. Problem solved! We need a Shaman who can bring the dead back to life.. If Hitler won the war, this would have never happened! HEIL HITLER <3
Bring Hitler back.. Problem solved! We need a Shaman who can bring the dead back to life.. If Hitler won the war, this would have never happened!
The hope is that with social media the powers that lead the middle east will lose control and no longer be able to brainwash the public. Unfortunately, Egypt showed us that even though the masses have access to social media they were not able to mobilize in time to prevent the radical Muslim Brotherhood from taking power. Majority does not rule, the organized, radicalized are the one's taking over. Slow moderate transitions (like the one Mubarak proposed and Clinton/Obama rejected) was the only avenue that would have prevented what we have now. A radicalized Muslim Brotherhood controlling Egypt. No good new in the short term, my prayers are with the people of Israel and hope they are able to survive the next century. With only 5 million jews in Israel, surrounded by 1 billion muslims in various countries, none of them recognizing the right of Israel's existence, it is difficult to imagine their fate it a peaceful one until the muslim world begins to tolerate other religions.
there is no end because new generations of palestinians are taught to hate immediately. no end because moslem powers in the area keep on funding militants for there own gains.
the only thing that will end it is a war on the scale of WWII. After WWII, Europe was so relieved to be at peace, that it held until today and created a new reality of cooperation. It took loss on that scale to create change that dramatic in one or two generations. How much loss will it take in the middle east to make them unanimously cry for peace? we all watch helplessly as the middle east gears up for war. there are multiple countries in the middle east that want a greater say in what happens... and they are all willing to challenge the traditional powers. stay tuned!
Zip, you don't have to be PC. They are not taught, they are brainwashed as children to hate jews. They have TV shows with Mickey mouse telling them that jews will come at night and drink their blood. Oddly, I've never heard of any human rights groups taking offense to this.
There is no end in sight. The Arabs teach hatred in their schools, so no younger generation will see things differently. In fact, it is hatred that holds the Palestinians together. They can't decide on a leader and don't even trust their own families. A better "when" question is when will the world say enough to Muslim Terrorism and squash it once and for all..
hey Rick, I don't know where you get your information from about the so called Muslim terrorists. There are over a billion muslims around the world, so are you suggesting we should kill them all, the last time I looked, we the so called Christian nation are the ones doing most of the killing and bombing. Remember IRAQ
No, King, kill just the Hamas leaders, one by one, until they are all one.
The truth is that if Israel were to put down her arms today there would be no more Israel. If the Arabs were to put down their arms there would be no more war.
What a onesided nonsense!
Its may be one sided, but it's true. Any country or people that have made peace with Israel, Israel has always gladly maintained peace.
Oh please... can you stop with your hasbara nonsense. Its easy for a country, the only nuclear power in the ME, with the latest weapons to pummel a small piece of land whenever it feels like it – murdering and maiming innocent women and children. Did you know that before the Israelis assassinated Ahmed Jabrail he was about to sign a long term truce with Israel which was brokered by the Egyptians. Israelis don't want peace, they never have, all they want is land.
@Adam, really? and you believe youself on that? Where are Palestines bomb shelters and bunkers? why did only Israel build a whole bunch of them? Why is Israel the one to blame here? this conflict is very black and white, and you clearly do not know about picking "The lesser of two evils" is it a coincidence that the only Jewish and True democratic state in the ME has Egypt, Syria, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, most of the Arab countries ticked at them. in a fued that's been going on for thousands of years. Can you tell me which of these countries are for inclusion, and a better quality of life, and which ones have called for Israels destruction and the destruction of the jews. which countries align themselves and their values to Iran and their line of thinking that echoes that of Nazi Germany. and those are the ones you feel are oppressed? You must not be from the west, or are an Arab opportunist in the west, very-ill informed, or a racist.
read the news or something. try presstv.com
Adam to your point, if Israel wanted to murder every single Palestinian they could. Have you asked yourself why they don't?
Adam. if 200 rockets fired on San Diego from Tiajuana, do you think we would care about the size of Tiajuana when we respond. Hamas purposely launches rockets from schools,. hospitals and Mosques so that innocent women and children will get killed from the Israeli response so nitwits like you can get outraged towards Israel for killing innocent people when in fact Hamas are the guilty ones.
johantham winters: If Israel could murder every single of Palestinian they would and I am pretty sure that Israel is using it's extreme power on Palestinians to murder them. and be careful do not just depend upon media all of us know that authority of media is with Jews people anything they want they show it to people whether that's blaming of Muslims or anything else, you are still kid just come to know about reality.
ONE SIDED?!? really? do you people not watch the news? I watch the news from all different countries, and a great number of influential Arab leaders have called for Israel's and the Jews destruction. If Canada and Britain and Australia said that about America, would that still be a one-sided arguement? Mahmoud Amedimajad has said the Islam will "Wipe Israel off the face of the map" and you're on their side? If Russia said that about your people, how would you sleep at night? well, I guess you probably wouldn't know as you never had to practice "Duck in Cover" drills before. I agree that Israel has done wrong things, but with the opposition against them, this is the best alternative. all other options are not enough. Arabs have alll that land, yet you believe they're in the right because this small little piece of sand should be theirs too?
dont make dirty our name. u better use zion instead of canada.
maybe they have a good reason to call for Israel destruction
To the canada : Do not depend upon media the authority of media all over the Globe is with Jews anything which they are saying has two parts, 1- Blaming of Muslims without any fact. 2- Showing themselves innocence to the world, although the reality is it's inverse but who will be that to explain to the rest of the world, and insha'Allah people will be realized very soon.
Emily, if the Arabs put down their arms, what would they replace them with? Love of science? Women's rights? progress??
World comments on Hamas missile that hit Telaviv: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!!!
You do not speak for all of us.
neither do you
It did not hit, it was intercepted. Offside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cute comment Julian, but we both know it was just a random hit in a "crap shoot" attempt to be heard by the world on the part of Hamas. I do not support terrorists, but do support the Palestinian peoples' "right to exist" They don't have much more to work with there in Gaza than a bunch of inaccurate outdated (more like motor rounds) than sophisticated missles. Unlike the ones being used against them in a MURDEROUS ATTACK launched from Israel......How ONE SIDED!
No fun having your back to the wall.If anyone should know that, it should be the Jews! .....ya know; "HISTORY"!! There are pressures from the whole region, especially that tyrant in Syria.
Let's "GIVE PEACE A CHANCE" a real chance! ty.
D.
It means that the Towel Heads don't like the Doilie Heads. Hahahahahahahahaha
i can't believe I'm actually going to comment on here, but here goes.
these are not philosophical issues, human lives are involved.
i can only speak for myself , but seeing as I'm an Israeli who has been bombarded for the last 8 years i feel that my opinion caries a little more weight than most of yours. Sadly, i don't think that the two factions (Israeli government & Hamas) have any desire to cease hostilities. If you don't understand why then you are just naive, the crux of the matter is that when one country in this Godforsaken region becomes a little more extreme,all the other ones follow suite.
U asked when this conflict will be resolved, truthfully, WE don't know, i think that most of us have given up hope,
It's stubborness. It wont end until one or the other is on their knees. Canada will be there to help keep you on you're feet, Our leaders have your well-being and interests at heart. Hopefully one day you will have a nation that will move forward and without fear, hopefully the will resonate across the ME. unfortunately, radical islam will be there to knock humanity down a peg. The moral of this story is evident, and I intend to stand on the right side of history, even with all the faults and mistakes we will make.
thank you, Canada
to canada: Sure! one of them will be sat on knee, but I am going to mention that who will be that? certainly that will be Israel and the innocent Palestinians will get their freedom.
Illyas, innocent as O J Simpson?
it will only end when ALL the jews will repent and recognize JESUS CHRIST as the son of GOD .
I really thinik that people in Gaza and Israel should be determined once and for all to know more about each other in order to coexist. They will never free themselves of the fear unless if they do so. And that starts by teaching so to their children. Otherwise it will always arise so now and then a vicious circle of hate and revenge. PEACE!
you dont get it. people of gaza are just pawns. a minority of them are financed by regional powers in a greater struggle for regional supremacy. they use Iran's weapons and money to maintain control and give Iran's regional enemy something to worry about. its harsh for the palestians, yes, but also harsh for israel.
Holy... I thought America was a big ally of Israel, but your guys media almost seems to ignore the fact that Israel is fighting an offensive for their national prtection. it seems like my Country and Australia are the only ones fully in Israel's corner. where your media plays them both at fault. interesting.
Maybe, just maybe the rest of them are tired of trying to broker a peace agreement.
Most Americans do support Israel. Our media, however, is pretty much useless in representing us.
I've noticed that, especially with your elections.
We had a change of management 4 years ago, the new management is a lot more sympathetic to jihadists and terrorists than the last.
Aha! I knew it! the Liberals in your country aren't all for Israel eh, My country is almost as Liberal as they come, except when it comes to terrorism and Israel. we actually overwhelmingly support the Democrats here, they handle terrorists a little differently thats for sure, drones are a good thing.... then again, we here believe the Iraqi war caused the recession and viewed it as illegal. I would've saved up all the money and man power for the war that is to come.
To Canada: your entire information depend upon media and that's ridiculous make effort to know about reality if you are really enthusiastic to know about that.
All I know, Is I can go to Israel (been there) and walk around freely and without fear. yet I would not dare step foot in Iran, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon. etc. I believe in Democracy, and trying to be fair (even though our system has faults) it is better than the alternatives that they uphold. I cant live in a nation propped up by radical Islam. I reject all it stands for, but feel they should be included in the process of democracy (like they are when they are a citizen of Israel) . I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard Israel's enemies spout out things in Sharia law. It is obvious it hinders the world's progression. and they complain when they're not in control. Im lucky to live in a democratic country, which is why thousands upon thousands of Arabs come here from the Middle-east... but if there system is so great, why are we not flooding Palestine and Iran?
Sick of their selfishness on both sides. Let them just blow each other to hades!
i agree. when the bigger side prevails, a new order will be set and peace will take over. instead, the international community holds the two in a constant stalemate.
So wanting to live in secure borders without gangsters firing rockets at you in selfish? Guilty!!
mochach is here!
THE THIRD TEMPLE IS BEING BUILT IN JERUSALEM
KEEP BUILDING THE THIRD TEMPLE.
No its not. In order to build the 3rd temple they need to remove the dome of the rock and if they remove the dome of the rock, that will trigger WW4. Not WW3 but WW4. It will be so bad that we'll skip WW3.
It's the same thing that's been going on for the past 64 years, and will probably go on for another 64 years. No news here.
For the past few months more and more rockets have been fired at Israel, only when israel says enough and ready to expand the attacks- thats when all the arabs go to the UN.
the problem is stupid arabs in the palestinian sandpit and mean muslims of other arab states that just do death everyday when jews spend their time going to school and pushing this world forward.
Bibi using his powers to get re-elected again. Cannot believe Fareed is afraid to say that Israel started this by their asasination by air. Oh well, more propaganda in a land of total lies from all sides. To bad those tribes still are arguing with eachother. Haven't learned a thing over the millaniums.
Hamas has been sending rockets at innocent civilians for months, and the day before Israel eliminated the Hamas official, Hamas had aimed a missile at Israel's nuclear reactor. It missed, but how many more attempts should Israel accept before they say enough is enough.
When they get the hell out of lands that belong to other people. Have you been occupied lately.
I thought Israel doesn't have any NUKES! poor Israel
To objection: you really amazed me by hearing innocent Israel, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....... I don't know why you people have this ridiculous judgement without any sense why???????? Israel is not innocent do remember it!!!!!!!!!!
Kin and llya,
I've listened to your hate go on and on and on... and really i just can't take it anymore. Let;s do some math. A: 22 arab countries in the world- correct! B. 56 muslim countries in the world – Correct!
C. One and only one jewish state in the world in the land of Israel, built by it's people the jewish people- Corret again!
After all the horrors that you and people like minded have caused jews in the last thousands of years, there is no way in hell we will ever give up our land, our home, because simply put, we don't trust you not to try to kill us again. You are programmed to hate and your hate leads to our death, we as a people will never ever be victims again, we will grow and prosper and succeed. And we are the only beacon of light in the middle east, That is the truth, and you should thank us, considering the reason you are able to sit and type on your PC now is due to Israeli scientists! Israeli! say it again, unless you are hard of hearing. I want explain again about the Palestinians because frankly, you are just too stupid to understand or know history. So haters gotta hate!
If you live in peace with Israel, you will be left alone, raise a hand and you will be taken care of. Jews have been in Israel since biblical times, they were exiled 2000 years ago. any archaeological will tell you the evidence proves that fact! The palestinians decided to put their lot in with the arab nations attacking Israel. THEY LOST. You are now an enemy. If you chose to live well, be peaceful.
Israel would most likely not be a topic if Hitler had been stopped. Also most important if as a group the Palestinians and their supporters had won the war in 1948.
They out numbered and out gunned the Israelis.
But their was very little cross border trust in the Arab world in 1948 and still that way today.
They need to learn to trust each other and maybe then they can make peace with Israel and children will stop dying.
Their current leader(s) don't want peace because it reduces their power and influence.
The Arab fighter is as good fighter as any in the world. But have never shown the ability to unit across tribal boundaries thier fragmented efforts will never achieve their goals.
WHY You have too many little Napoleons.
The Israelis on the other hand fight with their backs against the wall and train accordingly as a united team no matter what their political leaning are.
Make peace and share the land or your hate will continue this life of death and destruction.
Total solidarity with Israel, i hope the hamas terrorist will be all down.... Israeli ppl they know how to defend themself against the barbarian terrorist musilim...
To giorgio: Total solidarity is not with Israel you are just depending upon media which is with Israel and some ridiculous judgement and your non-sense dream will go to hell, these Muslims will get there freedom whether that by authority or negotiation.
Get their freedom, IIlyas, not there freedom. There freedom is in heaven with 72 virgins (under veil of course).
"It is no secret that Hitler and his Nazi cronies sought inspiration from Indian extremist groups including the branding of his Nazi Party by adopting the Swastika, a traditionally Hindu symbol and representation of Hindu god Ganesha, as its marketing tool. The thesis being that like the Norwegian massacre the Jewish holocaust orchestrated by Hitler was inspired by the inherently violent cult of Indian Hindus and the manifesto of its then extremist/terrorist groups still in existence today. These groups are now the successors to and carrying out the vision of Al Qaeda all over the world albeit in a clandestine manner."
I don't know when CNN will decide to think like human. The zionist occupation is a western creation. All the suffering in this land is your fault. Every year u help Israel with 4 billions dollars of military aids. U're supporting a racist and colonisalist movement. u're supporting terrorists. Supporting the invasion of Irak wasn't enough for u? U're the shame of the history!
"...think like human"?? You mean like those humans that are lobbing missles at Israel unprovoked? "..zionist occupation.."?? It is a country of many religions, and it isn't going anywhere. The sooner you and your ilk realize that, the better off you will be.
what do you mean unprovoked, they just assassinated one of their elected leaders, the illegally occupy other people for over 50 years, they treat them worse than we treat our pets here, the hold funds, water and have built road blocks all over the towns where they live, they build on their lands illegally, I can go on for hours about these thugs that control the Israeli government. Maybe you should move over there in these conditions and see how long you would last.
By unprovoked, I mean just that. They didn't eliminate the terrorist leader until he and his minions had already lobbed hundreds of rockets toward the Israeli population. Don't read the news much do you?
Elected?? Hamas' Osama was elected??
Meanwhile.. the whole problem started because Muslims wanted to kill off every one of their neighbors that belonged to a different religion. Kind of hard for them to come across as the good guys after that, especially since it's still their stated intention.
Dear yacine, I am absolutely agree with you and you mentioned the reality to these misjudgement people.
It's OK Illyas, judgement day for this misjudgment people is coming. Oh, no, you meant the Americans supporting Israel here, sorry. I meant the hamas terrorists..
Its terrible to watch, and the one who striked first was Israel when they killed the leader of Hamas and now has murdered 3 children and a pregnant woman in Gaza, which doesnt seem to be mentioned in this article at all, Fareed zakaria you are suppose to be unbiased as a reporter, seems like Israel has their cash in your pocket also
I can't believe what a moron you are. How did Israel strike first when it has stood silent through constant rocket and terror attacks from Hamas?
If you occupied my land and people, rockets will not be the only thing that will be raining on you.
To KW: Moron are you because your judgement is like kids and you should shut your mouth up! till now you don't know how can Israel attack and and this is amazing for you. alas! you had any sense I will illustrate that to you, but you ............
Illyas, maybe we can learn English, just a bit? You may need it if you and your fellow terrorists want to conquer US too...:)
The way you idiots talk, really i'll bomb you myself. After all if i went back and looked at your history, it will be sooo easy to see that you too sit on occupied land!
What do you know? You and your people have more blood on your hands then Israel ever had, in fact you better start by reading your own history and see how you murdered your predecessors in your land, Because trust me you have not been there that long.
Also, we have history and proof and good common sense on our side, what do you have? Hate.... and ignorance and stupidity. There is no Palestine, there never was, Please look it up, there was never a country, a regime, any sort of proof to support that claim. It is the biggest lie of the 20th century, and apparently the hardest to disproof.
Ok.....all you fools that feel that they gotta be all PC and nice then it comes to the muslims. Want the "straight up"? We (Americans) in general, hate you guys! Yea, I said it. We bloody hate you. We are also armed to the teeth! Civilians are armed like you wouldn't believe. Bring this crap into MY backyard and you will eat lead! Keep you pedophile worshiping selves in your sandbox. By the way.....Support Isreal! I am today as I buy a Baby Eagle 45! God bless Isreal, down with muslims!
To icemanN4: You bloody fool, what will happen if you hate us or not this is clear for all that we bloody hate you people and you us, and your this prayer towards Israel is going to hell cuz Allah almighty is with Muslims. and look to your people in Afghanistan how we are killing them they occupied our country and this is our obligation to protect ourselves, but your media is telling you that our soldiers are fine, still you don't know about your own people and they just bomb innocent children, women, and kill people by the name of Muslims to show to some non-sense like you that Muslims are killing people actually behind that are you people no one else. you should be shamed of yourselves!
Ilyas, it's OK, son, calm down. Allah was with Osama too. Apparently not all the way, though...
I agree!
Jesus Christ is a jew. Over 2000 years ago, He conquered the devil at the cross crushing him and disarming of what power he had. Now the devil prowls around this earth deceiving everybody. Perverting everything that is good to bad. Why do you think some people in this world HATE jews? Because Jesus being a jew silenced the devil at the cross. Hitler, killed millions of jews, why, because he was being deceived by the spirit of anti christ, the devil. Now tell this day some people on this erath are being run by a spirit of anti christ because of what JESUS CHRIST did over 2000 years ago on the cross. No surprise whats going on in the middle east. READ YOUR BIBLE!
yacine: So the solution is to kill every Israeli in Israel dose that include those of Arab decent who call Israel home and hold jobs, vote in election and support their chosen country? So why not go the other way around and clear out anyone who dose not call Israel home. At what point will you call a stop to the madness.
Where does the US fit into this? We've quickly lost most of our leverage in the area, with Israel and Saudi Arabia (as well as a few other smaller states) being our only real friends (and is SA a real friend? or a friend of convenience). In some ways it's a bit easier with fewer friends – you don't have to worry as much about offending your enemies as you do your friends. But of course we worry about offending everyone. It's obvious that the majority of the Arab world would like to see the destruction of Israel, and that is not likely to change.
The US needs to start acting like the world superpower and do what the world superpower is supposed to do: Protect our national interests. That means standing by Israel, even if it leads to war.
The solution is very simple,stop the occupation and confiscation of Palestinian land, allow them to live in dignity and peace , then they have no excuse any longer. Israel has no intention of doing so by their actions of building settlements in the heart of the West Bank and Jerusalem and the Arab and the rest of the world knows that. So at every opportunity, Israel cries foul and keeps playing the same game while displacing the Palestinians and expanding their empire
I am agree with you!
Sorry, It is not your land. You lost the land in a war you started. When you start a war and lose land, it is gone forever.
Keep this up and you will lose more than the land.
WHen you start a war, there is price to pay. Unless you win, of course. You didn't, did you?
KW
So were the American Indians , then maybe you should get the hell out of this country and give them back your house.
Nice job, making a completely unrelated argument. I won't even honor this stupidity with a response. If you can't talk intelligently about the real issue, then don't respond.
you 're the one that needs to show some intellect and stop calling people who have a different opinion than you idiots and morons.
To KW: actually you are stupid and cannot judge well that is why he is giving you some examples. understood??????????
Examples of what, how hatred failed to win you even one progress in 60 years? And will fail again in the next 100?
Isreal has nothing to be worried about, God will protect them. No harm will come to that country!
Wow!!! Amazing as well as amusing dream, you should tell your dream to wall cuz that is thing not a living thing you will be realized soon that how Palestinian will kick Israel!
Just like you have been doing for the last 50 years? You people are a poor joke!
If you are so confident, why do you hide under the ground in tunnles? We can't feel the kick!
We need to remove all troops, money, aid of any king from the entire middle east. Let them work it out for themselves. They can destroy each other.
I agree, let's start with the 4 billion Israel gets to buy weapons and builds more illegal settlements.
It makes financial sense for the US to keep Israel militarily capable. It's cheaper to help them kill terrorists than it is to have to do it ourselves.
So far 23 Palestinians have been killed mostly children and 3 Israelis
WHO IS THE REAL TERRORIST HERE, THE LAST TIME ISRAEL INVADED GAZA, THE COUNT WAS 1400 PALESTINIANS AND 33 ISRAELIS. Do the math
I would say that meant that Israel kicked the butts of hostile enemies.
You're clearly ignorant, and if you are Israeli just come out and stop hiding behind your post.
Not nearly as ignorant as you. And, I am American. You must be one of those psychopath terrorists.
yep, he is a terrorist, I'm looking at him from the video screen of a drone now.
Canada, quick, pull the trigger before he gets away.
I think I got him, he stopped replying.
The police in the US shoot and kill more criminals than criminals shoot and kill police. Does that somehow mean that the bank robbers, drug dealers and car jackers are the good guys?
And sorry, but the fact that more terrorists have been killed than civilized people is something we should all be happy about. Just like we should approve that the police tend to win shootouts with criminals here.
good analogy! I've noticed when it gets to tough, they stop responding, but they make just enough noise to make this a questionable issue, even when it's very black & white.
that statistic just shows that the Israelis care more for the protection of their citizens then the palestinians, something we already knew. Israel had to waste money building bunkers and bomb shelters instead of progressing their schools and hospitals. but that's just something you have to do when the entire ME is against you.
but the civilized world is not.
Hey CANADA, for your information they also built thousands of homes (settlements) on occupied land, how about i come over and build me a little house in your back yard. I wonder if you would send me flowers or missiles
And yet they shoot from Gaza, right?
GO ahead, build a house on my land, my country offers up lots of land for Muslims and jews, and hindus, and christians, and everybody. we are inclusive nation. I would not start shooting missles at you, that's not how the civilized nation works.
To Random guy: you are absolutely out of mind till now you don't know who is terrorist? I will give you the answer that the real terrorist of the world is Israel include of USA.
funnny stuff.... both of those nations offer both you and I more opportunities in life than Iran and Palestine.... your thinking and rationale is troubling.
That is the inevitable result of starting stupid wars. You keep pick fights, losing and then crying like children. This is not a winning strategy guys. One of these days, you will pick one fight to many – then your number will be up. Even Allah will not be able to protect you.
the Israeli casualties are low IN SPITE of hamas. 200 + missiles sent at civilian centers...the $ Israel spends on shelters, sirens, and the Iron Dome keeps their people safe. Israel make precision sticks to try minimize the casualties. If I had a charter that calls for the destruction and war with a Israel, i would invest in ways to keep my people safe, not invest in ways to kill as many israelis as possible. 30,000 syrian civilian deaths....that is what it looks like dealing with arabs. approx 50 deaths is what it looks like when dealing with Israel....YOU do the math.
Be thankful it is Israel and not syria going into Gaza!
Hamas is a glorified organized crime netwiork. They don't want peace, they're not in the business of peace. If there were peace they would have to become poiticians and run a country and thus they wouldn't know the first thing to do.
Their comfort zone is the terrorism business, they could care less about a "Palestinian state". As for the people of Gaza revolting against them, probably not a good idea, they would get slaughtered. I don't see anyone here revolting against the Mafia, same thing.
Israel should get out of these lands and allow the people of Gaza decide for them selves since they elected these leaders. No one tells us who can represent us , so who the hell are we to decide for them.
Ok, OK, don't shoot, we are leaving. Ooops, just kidding!
Time to end All US Foriegn Aid to Israel. They get four times per person more in US Aid than any other country.
They refuse to disclose their nukes – yet demand all other countries do.
They steal lands by deciet, and claim it is their right.
They (Silverstein and Neten-yahoo) were complicit with Bush WH in 9/11 (see Veterans Today).
They repeatedly prove they cannot be trusted.
They do not want Peace – these talks are ruses to get more land.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Meanwhile.. Palestinians are a bunch of blood thirsty psychopaths that would rather kill people for belonging to a different religion than create a safe home for their children.
(If I were Israel) I'd rather be complicite with George bush's lie, then to stand alone in a region that still hates me no matter what... maybe that could finally grasp a friend. and if that war didn't ruin America's economy, Americans might want to help out a little more. lol, in Canada were Liberals with a conservative view on this issue for sure.
USA should abandon all relations with war-mongering Israel. We need to get Israel lobbiests out of US Congress and government. Enough of their one-sided bigotry. They cry 'anti-semite' when their lies and crimes are exposed, meanwhile they are 'anti-everyone-else'. I've been to Jewish parties and banquets, and have seen their 'other side'. Some are great, but they need to speak out against their crazed leaders – as do Americans need to hold Bush WH gang responsible for their 9/11. (See Veterans Today for info.)
That makes perfect sense. Because the Israelis won't let the "Palestinian" psychopaths murder every last Jewish man, woman and Child in Israel we should cut off all relations with them.
Seriously, you pro-genocide Hitler wannabes really need to get some better arguments.
way to demagogue the issue
The terrible attrocities in Iraq and GWB's administration are not equivical to anything that's going on in Israel. Bush will pay someday... But turning your back on Israel is turning your back on what the Common wealth and western nations stand for, especially in a region where reason and responsibility has come to the nation known as Israel.
Thank you.
Israel is the only hope in the world. All Governments ( USA, UK, European,Chinese,Indian etc. etc.) do not understand what they are up against. You can not offer democracy to those who do not believe in it. I think "doabitofhomework" understands a little bit of it.
Every time it happens, I can't understand why Israel was waiting so long to react.
Hamas leaders should all be killed, and free Gaza from terror. Only then the Palestinians will have peace.
sending missiles on civilians just to kill someone is wrong.
Israel kills terrorists and destroy the missiles they send to kill civilians. any country would have done it.
The world should support ISRAEL and not terror groups.
If Israel lived up to it's agreement not to build settlements where they are not supposed to they wouldn't be in this mess.
Doesn't seem that's likely to be the case. Arabs wanted to genocide them long before these settlements were an issue.
How about showing the damage that the non stop firing of rockets and missiles cause to the communities in the south of Israel. CNN continues to deliver bias information about the Palestinian conflict .Tthey are so obsessed with pointing fingers at Israel that they already forgot about the thousands of civilian Syrians murdered by Assad, who -by the way- is probably intensifying the represion to his own people while CNN and the rest of the Media sympathize with the terrorists is Gaza.
I'm 62 years old and this is the same headline that's been in the paper for the 50 years I've been reading the paper.Nothing ever changes ,even the death toll remains fairly consistent every year.These stories about Israel and the middle east are actually kind of old news and quite boring.
Not to the Israelis.
Interesting bit of trivia there. Did you know that the Palestinian movement has it's roots in the Muslim Brotherhood, an organization which was founded with help of the NAZIs under order from Hitler himself.
Israel did get out of Gaza.. and the Palestinian filth responded by launching more rockets into Israel. If Mexico was launching thousands of missiles into the US, you can be sure the US army would be sitting in Mexico City within a few weeks.
Your actually quite wrong here.What keeps stirring the kettle is Israel keeps building settlements where they agreed not to. And as for your reference about U.S.-Mexico-they have nothing to do with this story.
No they don't. They have freezed all new settlement a long time ago. If you want them to stop, make peace. Shoorting from Gaza like coward terrorits won't stop the settlements, would it?
FYI Palestine is not just GAZA
Your right, it's all of Israel right?
Lets say you (again) give them Gaza, and the West Bank, and the Golan heights. and stop the blockade.... do you think there will be peace? or is your solution to ship all of the Jews out? or give total territorial control of the territory to the "palestinians" do you think they'll treat the jews better then the way the state treats the Arabs that live in Israel?
And?
it got tough again... maybe reason has finally enveloped?
Fiftyfive, when Israel withdrew from Gaza completely in the hopes that it would bring peace (they gave their settlements to the palestinians and relocated their Israeli citizens), what happened? Did Gaza flourish? No, it became the hell hole it is today, with its crazy jihadi leaders hellbent on destroying Israel. You blaming this issue in Israeli settlements shows just how little you know. The fact is, the Palestinians don't want land, they don't want peace, they want the destruction of Israel. It is in their governing body's charter. Pull your head out of the sand, idiot!
You're story is full of lies. When the Israelis left the illegal settlements, they tore down all construction rather than leave it for the Palestinians, also the land was not theirs in the first place.
YOUARECRAZY
Agree! king56
You are right, he is crazy. Israel should have never left Gaza to the murderous Hamas. It should have saved the Palestinians from themselves.
Tigrr, you sound like a typical jihadi nut job. Why don't you strap a bomb to your chest and become a martyr. Your 72 virgins are awaiting your arrival, I can hear them calling your name!
he wouldn't know what to do with 72 virgins.....male or female
Adam,
You should really stand up for what you beleive in and join Hamas in Gaza.
They would welcome you with open arms. They need guys like you.
Go there. Go now. Don't forget to write.
Heime
Now you proved that you're ignorant.
And you proved that you are on the losing side, and will probably die a violent jihadist death. Seems you are the more ignorant one.
Means that the Kenyan Mislim Obama will pull out all the stops to defend his Muslim brothers.
So is he also gonna defend the Christian Arabs also.
To all the ignorant (Heime) and recist (American), if you can't back up your claims with solid proof, get off the screen and allow room for those people with a brain.
king56, did you never learn how to spell? "recist"? Do you mean "racist"? As ignorant as you are with spelling, I wouldn't be slinging the word "ignorant" around so freely.
Obama is not protecting Muslims he is ordering to kill innocent people in Afghanistan, Iraq and palestine and many other countries if he really want to protect Muslim leave Afghanistan and Iraq and stop fighting against Palestine.
King56, I'm not even going to bother arguing with you. I have seen enough around the world. Bin Laden, Assad, Khomeini, Ghaddafi, Hussein, Ahmedinijad, and Hamas. All lumped into the same category. Anything they stand for, the civilized world stands against. If you choose to support them, enough said. Gaza is a hell hole because instead of investing in schools, hospitals, businesses, Hamas chose to turn it into a weapons manufacturing and storage center, hiding ammunition amongst civilians, and doing everything they can to kill Jews. But of course, it is the "zionists" fault. What a load of garbage. You are a disgrace to humanity.
How interesting !
Israeli soldiers occupy Palestine.
They treat all Palestinians as prisoners in their own land.
They make people wait at checkpoints for hours, then refuse to let them through.
Israeli guns are trained on Palestinians on a daily basis.
They have complete control over who enters or leaves Palestine.
And nothing is said.
Then the Palestinians take action and it's the big news that the poor Israelis are being attacked.
How would it be if Canada occupied the US and we sent a couple of rockets into Montreal? IT WOULD BE JUSTIFIED.
But then again, Canada doesn't control the US press like Israel does.
(By the way "crazy": Why are you afraid to use your real name?)
Stop listening to your lunatic imams and clerics, and read a real history book. Pull your head out of the sand. Israel is never leaving Jerusalem.
Very well said!
Israel belongs in Auswitch, not Jerusalem..
And racist like you would have died in Auschwitz too, Don't worry, Hitler had a plan for you too. You just can't see the smoke from all the stupidity in your head!
YOUARECRAZY
Call me after you've been occupied for 50 years.
See you then
Be prepared to be occupied for another 50 years you loser psycho.
Heime, once again you proved your ignorance. I see that now you came on my side and agree that it is an OCCUPATION.So my point is proven.
king, once again you don't even know the definition of an English word – "occupied". Yes, the Israelies do occupy the land, land which is theirs and not the terrorists. You've proven yourself ignorant once again, but nice try.
Obama's lies continue. No foreign policy what-so-ever. He should be ashamed of himself for not going to Israel or to even think that these countries would even sit down to talk after 4,000 years of fighting. His lack of experience shows in Benghazi and Israel. He is a wussy and a hack! We are all in big trouble.
Why are they occupied? Because they can't act like civilized people. Instead of peace, they want war. Instead of using their billions of $$ in charity they get, they buy rockets from Iran. Israel left Gaza hoping that it would bring peace....you know what happened there. Time to look in the mirror. Accept Israel, denounce Hamas and terrorism, use the money to build rather than destroy, and then live in peace.
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The Israelis will never live in peace. Perhaps they should have chosen an American state as their homeland . It would have left us with a. Far more peaceful world
I am agree David with you!
David, I've been saying for some time that the US should give Israel Nevada or now, maybe Texas.
I dont know to much about the politics of the situation but Hamas has been firing hundreds of rockets on Israel; If Israel sits and does nothing than what kind of government do they have if they don't strike back and protect their people.
I'm on Israel's side on this one!!
Israelis can go "F" themselves". Am I clear? Long live Panchali...long live....kali.
To jerry: if you don't know about politics shut your mouth up and there is no need for you. You just know about missiles towards Israel, you should know hao many people of Palestinians has been killed by Israel daily not monthly just account it on daily basis.
Llyas Hotak, you should be the one doing the shut up. You only hear the lies spread by the Palestinian terrorists. Jews owns the land they deserve from the beginning of time itself, those terrorists are the true cancers of the earth.
Islam is a religion of hate and violence, a religion from the pit of hell.
Their Quran is but texts containing truth mingled with lies
- a book inspired by satan, whose main purpose is to instill hatred to kill God's creation; ie. other humans.
Judaism is the product of hate, beggary, a slice of evil. Their book is nothing but trash that belongs in the town dump. A book written by evil mongers under the influence of oxycontins and its purpose is to spread evil. We hindus believe that all jews should convert to hinduism otherwise another gandhi will rise and collaborate with neo nazis to the detriment of jews. Hope you git my jist. Hare krishna hare ram.
Hindu I hear you say?!
You are worshipping useless images of satan.
You are like those idols you worship, you have eye that you cannot see, ears that cannot hear and mouth that cannot talk.
Ie. You are dumb and stupid.
BOY i am afraid of your hideous looking gods,compare with JUDAISM tours is RUBBISH
If you love Israel so much, show us. Go die for it.
Ronniq, my God never taught us to die, only you seriously blinded and misguided jihadist Muslims, taught by Mohamad the false prophet; and his satan inspired writings the quran that are teaching you simpletons to kill and die.
Wake up people, use your grey matter up there in your head.
To Israel; this is the idea of you stupid people if you have intellect think about it and try to have study about Islam then you will understand. you just heard from some other stupids like you about Islam. in fact reality is something else.
Ilya Hotak,
No No Don't read the Quran! It will lead you astray because It is a book inspired by satan, teaching simpletons to kill themselves and others. The reality speaks for itself... There is no Jew terrorist, but every terrorist is a blinded stupid jihadist Muslim!
Based on your logic, the American Indians owned this land you live in also. So I suggest you move to your beloved Israel and turn your house and land to the Natives. I'll pay for the moving truck.
Is that you Michele Bachman ?
It means that once again, delusional religious moronic jackholes are screwing up the world for the rest of us.
WHY oh WHY can't we get rid of all the religious nutwhacks? They don't do any good. No one likes them. Let's just get rid of them and to hell with what THEY want!
Both Palestinian ( Arabs ) and Israeli ( Jews ) have the same right to leave in this land, same as their ancestors for millennia.
So to claim and fight that this is the land of either side is a fight with no hope to end.
The Palestinian have to accept this fact and accept to live in peace beside the Israeli. But now if they want a nation they have to demonstrate this with facts and not only words. Facts by stopping the killings, the rockets and the threats of annihilation. Show to the world that they really want to leave in peace and prosper beside an already prosperous nation.
Then I am 100% sure that all nations in this world ( I say all ) will help them to build their nation, build houses for their refugees, build and industry with sound investments for sound economy and last but not least, convince Israel to move out settlers form their assigned territories.
I worked with Palestinian in several ME countries, and I can say they are excellent business men and traders, they are as good as the Lebanese and the Israeli, so there is no reason why Palestine cannot become a prosperous and wealthy nation, like Israel and Lebanon.
The tough part is to convince the extremist fringes of the Palestinian that this is the only way to go if they want to give a secure nation and future to their children.
Our country needs to stop supporting the apartheid state of Israel. They are thieves and oppressors, but due to their control and power in this country, they manage to suppress the truth. As this article mentioned, many Jews in Israel are against this recent offensive. They have seen for themselves what a violent and oppressive country it has become. This will become the death of Israel.... The truth will prevail and the world will see them as the animals they really are
John, please do your homework before you post.
Israel is the fairest country in the whole of Middle East.
Israel will never die, it belong to God and His beloved chosen people the Jews.
To jane! very stupid dream!!!!!!! have a conscious when getting any dream!
They were a chosen people but what happened when they rejected God and Jesus..... (read Ezekiel 22:15)
Please send me some of what ever you're drinking.
You're just wrong.
Regional solution is NOT a solution. We are forgetting that the Word of God in the Bible is at play here. Refer to Genesis 15 and Exodus 23:31 for the borders granted to Israel. God is REAL. How stupid people are!
What this violence means is that the people running this world are crazy, immoral to allow such a scale of human misery of the Palestinians.The UN is just like the League Of Nations before it, prior to WW II -it served the international bankers and were responsible for orchestrating WW II in which many of my relatives died. So it is today. There is starvation amids plenty, endless wars to enrich a few because the UN is the servant of the international bankers. In my view the Globalist Agenda and the useless UN needs to be abolished along with IMF. All they do is create wars, indebt nations-create misery , huge unemployment. We need some sane people to lead the world in a different direction.
Why has Obama been silent on the impending war?
My heart and prayers go out to victims of the violence on both sided of the conflict especially the children. Every day is a chance for love and peace to finally win the hearts of those who would launch a rocket or fire a missile
When Israel withdrew completely from Gaza an experiment started. Would the Palestinians create a productive economy or an arms bunker to attack Israel. The data is in, they chose the bunker. Their people will suffer for it. The rest of the world should see this as a pilot for an independent Palestinian state. Why would the UN want a new state that is solely bent on attacking another recognized state. Crazy.
The jewish has no land. God said in (ezekiel 22:15) the bible:"And, I will scatter thee among the heathen, and disperse thee in the countries and will consume thy filthiness out of thee"
Go IDF. Do whatever means necessary against these terrorists. Israel is the only nation on the earth who is blamed for defending itself...
Defending yourself is when someone outside your country attacks you, look up the history books and read about Pearl Harbor. When you occupy the land of others, there is no such thing.
Prepare for the worst..Hope for the best.
They are out to prove who has the better God.
We live in a world of war, only the dead will see the end of it.
What? Israelis and Palestinians fighting? You don't say. Huh. That's new. Oh wait, no it isn't. Hey, I've got a whole driveway full of sand, anyone want to attack me for it? What are we up to now, 50 years of people pushing each other around in Palestine? Frankly, it's tiring, and the rest of us should just ignore them and let them blow each other up already.
How interesting !
Israeli soldiers occupy Palestine.
They treat all Palestinians as prisoners in their own land.
They make people wait at checkpoints for hours, then refuse to let them through.
Israeli guns are trained on Palestinians on a daily basis.
They have complete control over who enters or leaves Palestine.
And nothing is said.
Then the Palestinians take action and it's the big news that the poor Israelis are being attacked.
How would it be if Canada occupied the US and we sent a couple of rockets into Montreal? IT WOULD BE JUSTIFIED.
But then again, Canada doesn't control the US press like Israel does.
John, well said, our country is controlled by the press and it is 100% one sided.People should wake up and learn the facts before they respond.
OCCUPATION IS NOT THE ANSWER.
You're comparison with US and Canada is ridiculous.
Israel has to have checkpoints to keep terrorists out. Full stop.
Children are dying. History can judge who is to blame. What matters now is who ends it. Let that be the legacy you leave to the living children.
Why is the violence we’re seeing today so much worse than in recent years? To this you reply...
"The (Israeli) citizenry has a real demand for safety and security."
Those Israelis and their desire to live without the fear of being murdered by an illegitimate terrorist-lead "state." The mere fact that we as U.S. citizens can discuss this topic is reason enough to support Israel. Reason and Democracy must be protected at all costs. Hamas has no intention of recognizing Israel as a legitimate state regardless of Israeli concessions. Hamas advocates archaic, 5th century values of squashing women's rights, fidelity at the cost of life and a racist, male-dominated society that has no place in the modern world.
Israel, continue to protect your people and our shared Democratic values.
Liberals, be careful hugging terrorists, you might get hurt.
Don't care about these people any longer. They can't get along. They prefer to hate, to hold centuries-old grudges, sacrifice their own children, live in constant fear and kill each other. The sooner our media forget about them and stop rewarding their bad behavior with headlines and interviews and high-minded opinion pieces, the sooner they will make peace and learn to get along. Report and analyze what's going on in OUR country. That's what I care about.
Well said.
Why should Our jets, Our helicopters, and Our bombs be used keep the natives "in their place"?
The simple fact of the matter is that the people of Palestine refuse to be ruled by European Jews.
The "chosen people" should do their own dirty-work, and build their own weapons.
The J*ws control the broadcast media, and their Fascist, 'neocon", chumps rule Congress.
( But they don't have the guts to move to Israel, do they? )
This country needs to end foreign aid to every Nation in the Middle East including Israel
Egypt is firing rockets from the Sinai- Israel is being threatened- a NATION- like the US or the UK or Russia-please- open eyes-
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"That should go along with a normalization of Hamas’s political position." What does this mean? It sounds like utter nonsense. Does it mean Hamas should decide to be "normal" or does it mean their position on the destruction of Judaism in the Holy Land should be accepted as "normal". Hamas considers its position normal already – as does large majorities of Islamic nations. On the other hand, except for neo-Nazis in the West, Hamas' position is considered barbaric.
As with all dysfunctional situations, they escalate until eventually some drastic occurs that perpetually changes the situation. Such will be the case with the Israelis and Palestinians. This situation is dysfunctional and will ultimate lead to global warfare....A War to End All Wars. It is just a matter of time. Just like a fighting man and woman will eventually escalate until someone is killed, thereby forever changing the situation, so will the Israeli and Palestinian situation escalate until global violence ensues and forever alters the earth. May God have mercy on all of us.
This is just a ruse so they can garner support for an attack on Iran. They could have taken out a Hamas leader at any time to stir up the hornet nest but waited till after the US election. You people are being played.
someone invades my backyard and occupys it. I fight him until he leaves or until I die. And now i'm called a terrorist
THATS HOW SOME PEOPLE THINK HAHAHAHAHH
I hope the truth of this situation prevails. It is too complicated for anyone to take sides.
well its obvious that cnn has an agenda on their reporting, last ac reporting showed a arab man being picked up and carried away but through some miracle he appeared in a later video, looking fine who knows they show him being carried again to other place but cnn keeps showing be blown up again on gary tuckmans ,whats the deal, cnn wants people to think this one sided
The problem that United Nations couldn't solved this problem is those countries with veto powers in this organization are always bias. I think the UN needs reform and be more democratic and abolish the veto power system and let the assembly members of all countries do the job. UN is not democratic but o autocratic. VETO POWERS SHOULD BE ABOLISHED.
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Once there was no israel but after the WWII all the jews came to palestine, it was all planed to make big israel, all wars in the middle east is because the western people, zionist, masons and jews want big israel. This big israel is also part of syrie and eastern turkey, syria now has a civil war and the turks have a terrorist group who are terrorising turkey what is called the pkk, the kurds. The media, the world and some leaders behind all the cases we see made them do it so they can easily make the big israel but this wont happen.. The turks gonna get them
and everybody know they are the main problem of the group who want big israel
Send all the American LIBERALS to Israel wearing COEXIST t-shirts and have them try to catch the rockets from Hamas with nets.
The Arabs have been playing the West as fools for decades. They are just getting better at it. Obama has given them Libya and Egypt. Jordan may be next. War is imminent between the West and Islam. A nuclear Iran is the match.
I fully support Israel. They have evry right to defend themselves. I am so sick of hearing countries come down on Israel because they defend themeselves. Any country would do the same if they constantly are attacked. GO ISRAEL!!!!!
Israel killed 39 Americans when they attacked the U.S.S. Liberty.
it means that israel now has a chance to kick the rag-headed-dog-phukkers out of there. palestine is not a nation, they are not a people, they are a lie that follows a false prophet who god is so weak, that she has to rely on fanatics to kill innocent women and children by giving them the false hope of dozens of virgins upon their suicide.
-TheBigSarge
I bet you supported Newt Gingrich
Grab some popcorn and beer and get a seat .... it's 1968 again ... and 69, 70, 71, 76,77,78, 82, 83, 84, 90, 91, 92, 94, 97, 2000, 01,02,07,and 08. What's changed? .... NOTHING .... Neither side has the balls to finish it. GET IT OVER WITH AND ANIALATE EACH OTHER ALREADY !!!!
The lines of Armageddon are now being established by the forces and the promises are for Isreal.
What is better war and destruction or peace and prosperity?, people who thiink can answer that question.
Canada is the U.S.A.'s best ally not Israel, Israel attacked the U..S.S. Liberty and killed 39 Americans. AIPAC owns Congress, it is time to put America first for U.S. citizens instead of Israel.
Is that all you can come up with Massoud? It was actually 34 people, but what's another 5 when we are spreading lies and propaganda, right? Israel also publicly apologized, it was investigated and found by all sides to have been a mistake. Then Israel payed something like 40 million dollars to the victims families. Please, let's keep the discussion relevant and honest. Oh, yeah, you are grasping at straws here since your side clearly does not have the moral high ground.
My side is America since I am an American citizen my side is what is in Americas best interests I am not an Israeli or an Arab I only care for what is in Americas best interest And AIPAC has to many congressional members on their payroll. If you want to support Israel over America that is your choice but I am tired of us giving foreign aid and having to fight their wars let Israel stand on its own Americans are tired of Israel sending our troops and money to die and get injured for them.
when i follow the news (in this case about Israel) for me it looks like watching TV . (the one with action program movie channels ) but I just don't understand by what reason and by whom, channels of this TV. are getting changed . who decides what scene is needed to be seen . and why they think the people feed of violence . for god sake put it on MTV channel for a while and I promise no one will protest against it . teasing Muslims is like trying to wash concrete whit water . Zzzzing (it only makes it harder you fool ) . why don't you work on ideas , thoughts , believes . don't you have something beautiful to show to the world unless terminators series .
The US needs to stop supporting Israel. They have oppressed everyone around them for decades using the holocaust as their claim on that land. Playing a pity card to murder tens of thousands of civilians.
Ridiculous statement.
the united states must stop supporting israel, we lost a lot of things around the world because of israel !!! israel is the trouble maker in nowadays !!!!!!!!!!!! you need the truth ??? the land belong to Palestine not israel !!!! israel took the land from the ARABS in the 40s !!!!!! ..................israel is the NEW NAZI !!!!!!!!!!!!
Somewhere, it is said that "Pre-emptive strikes" are another name for "Aggression" ... We all know that assassinations are a guarantee for international attention ... all we have to do is ask ourselves "Who benefits from such attention?" Isn't anybody tired of this?????????????
France and Egypt need to stay out of this. Israel needs to take care of business.
I remember in history some guy did the same thing to a people but didn't end up to well for him........
Israel is a TERRORIST state! The US gov't should stop defending their actions killing hundreds of innocent civilians because some extremists decide to launch a few mortars which did little to no damage.
Mt first thought looking at the picture... they have a bigger swimming pool now, sorry, I know it's serious... but the bloodshed needs to end and it takes both sides to do it. My worry is Iran and that they seem to be frantically completing their nuke, this war will be bigger than anyone ever imagined. I hope the world is keeping a close eye on this situation. I don't know much about nuclear weapons, but how much of the world would feel the effects of Irans Nukes?
The answer for the Palestinian conflict and world violence is a MASSIVE CONVERSION OF MUSLIMS TO CHRISTIANITY.
CHRISTIAN ARAB churches should unite in order to convert millions of brainless Muslims. It is a fact that if Palestinians were Christians no Muslim country or radical Muslims would have supported their cause.
Just another Israeli land grab...
Pablo. You've said it so well, in such a few words. Great idea to keep all the hate, fear, and all that "other stuff" out of it. Ty!
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This article is written completely from the perspective of Israel. "If this goes on and Israel gets pulled into a ground invasion into Gaza". Seriously, this is written, like Israel has no choice, but to launch a ground invasion. Really? That would be amazing...
The comments about Jordan are high level and lead the reader to be bad conclusions. I've been to Jordan three times in the last 1.5 years. I've been 100% safe every time as a blond, white woman – sometimes even traveling alone. This article makes it sound like Jordan is on the brink of civil war. The country has been going through political reforms, yes, they are slow, but no slower than our own US Congress. The protests right now are because the government is running out of money and the subsidy previously provided for gasoline and propane has been removed. In a country with a lot of the population on sustenance living this is a big deal, but not a civil war.
This reporting, like much of what I see being reported from the Middle East is irresponsible. It leads the western world to view the Middle East as something it's not. And all the while Israel looks like a victim. Way to go! Great objective reporting!!!!
It's going to come down to an invasion of Gaza in order to get rid of Hamas. That's true weather Israel invades now or not. As long as Hamas keeps firing rockets into Israel there can be no peace. Seems like the international community is determined to drag this out even longer with "peace talks" but that's only delaying the inevitable. If Hamas is gone than maybe there can be peace between Palestine and Israel.
There is only one real way for there to be peace in the region and to end the violence and wars which has spanned more than 60 years. People have to know the truth as Hamas and all radical Islamic terrorist groups must be destroyed. Israel mistakes is that being it is a strong military has been using weak approaches to protect its international reputation. The problem by pushing a publicity campaign in PR the cancer has been left over. The pro-Palestinian movements are also criminals in my mind as because of people like them people in Israel have been killed and as a result the war escalates forming deaths on both sides. I consider pro-Palestinian movements hypocritical as they always have been. Most people should listen to Geert Wilders criticism, Richard Dawkins, Pat Condel, Wafa Sultan, Brigitte Gabriel for ACT 4 America, Robert Spencer, Salmun Rushdie regarding why this violence never seems to end. Now what angers me is that if the Palestinians in Gaza are supporting rocket attacks which kill Israeli citizens they deserve to be punished along with Hamas, especially considering what they are promoting is founded on pure hypocrisy. Israel has a right to exist and always will, and nothing they will do as they have lost all the wars in the last 60 years will ever change that, nor will it change the fact that this has been a Jewish homeland for more than 3,800 years. Israel i am proud of you, and i am glad those poor losers are angry they are losing the war as they always have been. Israel do what should be done to protect its citizens and act in self defense and arrest all criminal activists and those who cause trouble for Israel.
The pro-Palestinian cause are the worlds biggest hypocrites. They claim Israel is a terrorist state but they are the ones who act like Nazis, promote Hitlers ideas among the hateful death for Jews ideals promoted by radical Islamic Jihadist extremists. Palestinians activists are the world's biggest hypocrites as the people who fire rockets kill Israelis, they plant bombs on women and children and use citizens as human shields. Is the world not smart enough to see the high level of hypocrisy promoted by groups of Hamas, which was supported by people like Osama Bin Laden? Al-Qaida, Taliban and Hezbollah along with all Jihad movements. Israel has done everything in its power to warn and stop citizens from getting killed in the crossfires to warning people to leave the areas targeted by Israel. Hamas are cowards who use citizens and houses to hide their arms and rockets and use any victims of war for political propaganda. Israel has a right to exist as a nation, the poor losers will be the people of Gaza and the terrorists who will lose badly by getting thrashed by Israel powerful military. Israel gave Gaza to the Palestinians for peace, the Sinai peninsula with oil to Egypt for peace? What did Israel gain in return? More rocket attacks and violence from the organized crime network Jihadists. They act like satanic spawns. The reason Israel has a wall is because people have been coming in the past as suicide bombers and attacking Israel by any means necessary, this includes rocket attacks. When the terrorists are gone from the region and Israel takes them all out of power at last there will be real peace. Israel should show no mercy to its enemies and do what is necessary to gain power and control the regions resources. Israel as hard it has been to build as a nation, its flaw is that it has been soft and way too kind to its enemies because they were seeking peace in the process. You can't deal with evil criminals in this manner, especially the ruthless ones and its hypocritical supporters who happen to be terrorist sympathizers and pawns in the Hamas social political ideology. Radical Islamic Jihadists are a cancer to this world, and they have been for many years. Obama if he has the courage he has to condemn Hamas harshly and put sanctions against the Palestinians for promoting war mongering rocket fire power to the region. The people who claim Israel does not have a right to exist and promote a resistance movement, are as much to blame as Hamas and all radical Islamic extremists groups for the escalating wars. Benjamin Nentanyahu has done the right thing by standing up for Israel and having its military take strong actions to take out the criminal elements in Gaza and all parts of Israel. This is a conflict which should have ended a long time ago, but it is continued because Palestinians support a criminal resistance movement promoting war and violence.
You have a nerve using the handle of messiah. You appear to be a hateful hippocrite. You seemed to be blinded to the FACT that B. N. has become extremely "Natzi -like" himself. Not only condoning the " OCCUPATION" of much of Palestin ian territory, in a greedy land grab! Nentanyahu's generation didn't seem to learn "ANYTHING" from the 1940s & the Natzis, except how to be like them & worse!
Yes there are extemists on both sides, and you sure are one of them! But, remember, extremeism is caused by constant oppression. Why haven't the Jews learned this? I know many who agree with me. But for the most part I only see hate & greed ozzing from them. HORRIFIC!!!!! SITUATION.......
USA tax payers will no longer bow down to the Jewish lobby(s) & "KISS THEIR FANNYS"!
Where the hell is my comment? Eh, CNN?
It means that for the israelis to use the Palestinians as a target to test/caliper the Iron Dome before it goes to war with Iran.
DIRTY EASTERN EUROPEANS OUT OF FALASTINE!!!
The Romans did...duh
Hamas is Iran's proxy in Gaza. They have all their rocket launchers in schools, homes and other places that have many civilians nearby. We must defeat Hamas to show Iran that this is what will happen to them if they start trouble. Once Hamas is gone, peace is possible. They are the bad apple poisoning the area. Israel will defend itself from their rockets and once again the Palestinians will cry "Victim".
Hamas is Iran's proxy in Gaza. They have all their rocket launchers in schools, homes and other places that have many civilians nearby. We must defeat Hamas to show Iran that this is what will happen to them if they start trouble. Once Hamas is gone, peace is possible. They are the bad apple poisoning the area. Israel will defend itself from their rockets and once again the Palestinians will cry "Victim".
Hamas is Iran's proxy in Gaza. They have all their rocket launchers in schools, homes and other places that have many civilians nearby. We must defeat Hamas to show Iran that this is what will happen to them if they start trouble. Once Hamas is gone, peace is possible. They are the bad apple poisoning the area. Israel will defend itself from their rockets and once again the Palestinians will cry "Victim".
Iran will not sit back and watch Palestinian children suffer and die - Iran will hear the screams for help and that will give the world more reason to hate Obama.
Iran will probably do what American media was too weak to do - make POTUS act like a man and not a wimp
POTUS cannot have it both ways - if Hamas was shooting missiles for "months or even years" then they fell on Obama's watch. No one can pass the buck to Bush like the Demo-craps always do. This is the blood on Palestinian children dripping between Obambi-poo's long skinny limp fem fingers now.-- drip drip drip drip drip drip drip
Here is a simple idea that could potentially help in resolving the current conflict in the Middle East: Can anyone convince the Palestinian terrorists, Hamas or any other known terrorist to love their own children more than to hate others? If you can, you will accomplish a lot..... think about it!
Obama intentionally neglected the Israeli-Gaza tension to defuse Congressional momentum with the horrific benghazi cover up. Yes, Obama is just that sinister - a child of satan - and the media has been that weak to stop it. As Obama said, "Bring it on" - Iran probably will and Obama gets another bloody free pass. Thanx, CNN
Iran will start shooting missiles - and its Obama and the media's fault - good luck
Iran is probably much closer to nuclear missile than we think - if not already there. The Arab League will not tolerate the screams of its children.
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Wait, what as that you said about continued Israeli settlements in the West Bank?
Oh, nothing, right.
The world must know truth. USA and world media not tell the truth. Why they do not tell the truth that the jews are killing palestians to take the blood. the blood is kneaded into the matzos. in arab world this is known. the children of palestine are known this. but in USA they will not tell. THE WORLD MUST KNOW THE TRUTH!!!
We know what this is all about....MEDIA Attention. Iran gets the spotlight off their centrifuges. Hamas does nothing unless it's sponsors say GO AHEAD. Idiot news outlets like CNN which are pro-Palestinian, eat this stuff up. The real culprit for this is IRAN. One big explosion on Kharg Island ought to stop this conflict once and for all. endtimesurvivalguide.com
What this article boils down to is there is no solution short of genocide.
The "solution" sketched here is a bunch of bromides which already have been rejected by both sides over and over.
Does anyone really care about this hopeless situation anymore? Muslims are simply not honest partners in any enterprise, even amongst muslims. Add to this the fact that Muslims are religiously bound to hate to the point of killing most of the human race, including Muslims who aren't Muslim enough and any Jew anywhere, but especially in Israel, and you have an essentially hopeless situation. Good luck! Why anyone would want to live in a dead end dump like Gaza run by lunatic murders, gangsters, fanatics, and Iranian stooges like Hamas is beyond imagining. Any person so unfortunate as to be stuck in Gaza should build a raft and float away to somewhere better.
All the west has done is to delay the inevitable.
Both sides have no interest in peace. Peace can only be reached when both sides are sick of death and war. Let them fight it out until both side are knee deep in their own blood and are sick of it than peace can be reached.
All we the USA have done is delayed this process for the last thirty years.All we have done is allowed the terrorist like Hamas to continue to exist until technology has advanced so much that they can eventually get their hands on weapons that kill thousands.
Again, let them fight it out until they get sick of losing their children, wives, husbands and are tired of death then there will be peace.
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It's so sad. There is no proper solution, we have three ancient cultures the were cradled and raised in such a small area, we have no right to tell any to leave. The only civilisation that handled it well was the Ottoman Empire, and that was disrupted when millions of Jews fled Europe to escape being killed by hitler and Mussolini.
for me is beyond imagination how this people didn't reach an agreement until now......that happens when your leaders (and most of the people living there)are small minded....violence will never be a solution to something...excuse my english
Between year 70 A.D. and WW2 the Jewish population in Palestine was negligible. So, what is the legal base for the creation of Israel? Land has been stolen by force, and simply justified by winning wars. When a similar situation happened in Europe (Germany 1939-1945), it was evident who was at fault. Why isn't it the same now? I feel sorry for the Palestinian because of their religion: apparently, if you are Muslim, you are stripped of any right to defend your belongings.
One thing I have noticed about Jewish people is that if you aren't one of them,they will treat you as an outsider,no matter who you are.
I'm not a jew, and I have 5 jewish friends... they reat me fine... But I understand where you're coming from if I was bigoted and racist. I understand why you have the stance on this issue as you do.
Evidently it is you who are the racist here,you see I have friends while you have Jewish friends and that's what you'll probably never understand.
Since the 6 Day War – the Arabs(all their factions) have fogotten the lesson. Israel will kick your ass. So why continually try to pick a fight?
Truthfully I feel both cultures are genetically defecive – there is no compromise gene.
Hamas is doing same thing again and again,expecting different results. Stupidity.
Mama told me do not throw rock at the man with gun. You will be shot in butts.
war barry war!!!
All this death because Israel won't stop expanding settlements !!! Who's looking to start another mideast war ?
They need to STOP IT! Grow up! You deserve each other.
Israel’s war crime in Gaza
To date, the Israeli government has induced hundreds of thousands of its own citizens to illegally settle in the Occupied West Bank and in East Jerusalem where it has forced the eviction of many hundreds of Arab residents – in violation of international law and of the authority of the United Nations. These illegal settlements plus the six year blockade of Gaza are the reasons for the continuing conflict and the horrific massacre now being perpetrated among the 1.7 million in Gaza in an illegal attempt to effect a forced regime change by the assassination of its political leaders.
The US, who has supplied Israel with its war planes and bombs that are now killing and wounding civilians, including children, and even journalists, must bear responsibility for allowing this atrocity, the escalating violence and the dire threat of mounting conflict that could soon become a regional firestorm. Palestinian and European lives are of infinitely more importance than Mr Netanyahu’s re-election prospects.
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1. The International Criminal Court (ICC) defines the transfer by an occupying power of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies, ‘as a War Crime’.
2. The International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague has declared that: ‘The Israeli settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, [including East Jerusalem], have been established in violation of international law.’
3. The International Court of Justice has judged the Israeli-erected West Bank Barrier to be illegal.
4. The United Nations has condemned Israel’s annexation of the designated international city of Jerusalem as a ‘violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention’
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Go,Israel Go! flatten the terrorist protect the Jews and and their home. Sucks that the west news is again demonizing Israel for defending themselves
agreed, And I am a Conservative Canadian (American Liberal). so this is not a left-right issue.
"You must send in the Mossad, turn off the cbc,cnn and don't look back. Rest assured they'll be no more middle-east crisis, heck, there'd be no more middle-east! come on lady liberty, pull up your dress today, and tatooed is : Property of the USA a Subsidiary a Haliburton! Hey Jihad Joe, guess what, we're coming to get you!" – MEGADETH
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It all depends on what you call a terrorist, and who is the terrorist. In my opinion the Palestinian Israeli issue is so simple to understand.
1. Jews claim that they were there thousands of years ago in that territory and are descendants of David
2. However during these thousand years Jews gradually lost this territory, right?
3. Jews can't come back all of the sudden and create their own state under the belief that this territory belonged to them thousands of years ago, if that territory belonged to them then fine come and live there as Jews but you have no right to create a country named Israel there, by killing thousands of innocent people. And you cannot artificially create a country at some other country's expense.
4. Jews killed and massacred innocent Palestinians and somehow they expect to live in peace, really? how is that possible? this is like someone comes in your home kills 2 or 3 family members and the next morning says good morning and let's go back to peace. Also in this process they occupied your house and they give you a bedroom to live in, and when you ask for more (because initially the entire house belonged to you) they beat you, wound you, kill more family members to make you afraid so that you can't ask for more. But do you think you can really live there in peace with them ever? Really?????
5. One thing is certain, you can occupy a land, kill its people for hundreds or thousand years but that land will never be yours because for as long as these Palestianins continue to live and breathe they will fight for their land. And who knows maybe in 10 years, 50 or 100 years world powers may change and Palestinians become stronger then what will happen to the Jews? will they be wiped out? Maybe, maybe not but they should seriously change their politics because their politics are awful. Also you can't leave this legacy for next generations because man this is seriously wrong.
6. Also they call Palestinians terrorists, really? their acts and their methods are of terrorist' ones however one should ask the question, why do they blow themselves up? really who wants to do that, no matter how religious you are it is hard to go through that? Nobody blows themselves up, unless you really pushed them against the wall. How would you feel not being able to leave your town to go anywhere? how would you feel if you lived in a jewish dominant state (because someone decided to occupy your country) and your kids have no future, they can't go to college etc? These are the questions that you should ask before you take any sides. Here in US a blackout happens and people have no electricity for 5 days and they get edgy and start acting crazy.
This is all so sad, but history tells us that you can't occupy one's land forever because everything has an ending. Also didn't Jews learn that force cannot bend nobody down? what did the Nazis do to them and couldn't bend the jews down? I think those who have more power should be more vigilant and should promote peace, democracy, racial equality , gender equality, because war doesn't bring nothing good, it just messes up people for life and and leaves a bad legacy for younger generations.
Jews have been in Israel since biblical times. They were exiled 2000 years ago. Any archaeological will tell you the evidence proves this fact. The palestinians decided to put their lot in with the nations attacking Israel...THEY LOST. they are now the enemy. If the palestinians want to live well they need to be peaceful. Raise your hand against the lives of Jews/Israelis and you will be taken care of on the Israeli's terms. AKA "occupation" It's their decision.
In order for mankind to survive, religion must die!!!!!
I CAN STOP THE ROCKETS AND AVOID THE WAR – WILL YOU LISTEN
By Email and by Fax to Premier Netanyahu and POTUS
011-972-025664838 – 011972-036976218
November 18, 2012
RE: A Solution for Israel that has never been heard – A short window of opportunity to win an Israeli-Palistinian peace settlement now exists and to avoid a new Gaza Hamas War. I CAN STOP THE ROCKETS AND AVOID THE WAR – WILL YOU LISTEN
To: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and CC TO POTUS
and Defense Minister Ehud Barack
Dear Prime Minister Netanyahu,
I personally am not known to you, however your brother was my kid brother Jonathan Abrahams's commander in the Golani Brigade. He now lives in northern Israel within 2 miles of the Lebanese border. He works for the Israeli government. He has a wife and four sons and has spent most of his adult life living in Israel. My parents, Abraham Judah Abrahams and Evelyn H. Abrahams lived in Israel for many years until they passed away in the 1990s in the US. They were good friends with Yitzak Shandar when he was with El Al. They lived in Kfar Vitkin.
I have an unusual different proposal to change the current status of Israeli-Palestinian conflict, that if successful will turn the Hamas and possibly Hezbollah, away from Iran. Even better it will stop the rockets and senseless attacks on civilians and it can change the face of the Middle East..
In light of the recent powerful developments from the“Arab Spring” in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and Syria, the current escalating Middle-East conflict in Gaza , there is a short window opening for a new and different approach to resolve this Middle-East Conflict. Since 1948 when Israel gained its independence, since the 1956 war, the 1967 war, the Yom Kippur war of 1973, the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict of 2006, and since the Israeli-Hamas conflict in Gaza in 2008 the world has only seen two ideologies in conflict with a perpetuation by the Palestinians of murder, suicide bombings, and senseless rocket attacks. Israel to preserve its security and safeguard its citizens has at times been forced to take targeted counter measures and to drastically restrict the movement of Palestinians by using numerous checkpoints within the State of Israel and the occupied territories. The settlements in the occupied territories are part of Israel’s security system, but are also a constant sore point for any peaceful settlement. Israel is the only nation that to defend itself must always go into the conflicts with two hands tied behind its back when it unleashes its military power with surgical precision.
The peace process is the fictional imagination of leaders on both sides of the conflict, because until the people’s hearts and minds (on both sides of the conflict) support the practice of peace (not a peace process) , there will never be a successful peace. When Palestinian children are taught in madrasas that it is their divine destiny to be suicide bombers, there can be no successful peace.
It is time to think outside the usual box and find a new approach to bring peace to this region. I propose using the world's most powerful, but most underutilized weapon system, that has decisively defeated terrorists and insurgents every time it has been used in Iraq. It is part and parcel of the “Arab Spring”. This weapon system is more powerful than a B2 bomber loaded with nuclear weapons. It is how this weapon system is used may determine its success. The use of this weapons system to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian ageless conflict will take heroics, expertise, and diplomatic finesse. It can be the missing diplomatic and political key to resolving this conflict. Part of the difference here will be the practice of peace on a trial basis by the people of both sides, rather than a peace process run by their leaders. The key is how to make this happen. A bonus will be the detachment of Hamas and possibly Hezbollah from the influence of Iran and how to convince them of this and to be a part of this new plan.
It will take powerful and eloquent world leaders who are willing to change world politics to successfully resolve this conflict. The timing is right if properly prepared and planned. President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton personally have experienced the power of this weapon system, and with their and your expertise, experience and world connections it can be successful.
I have previously written you, POTUS, President Bush, Congress and the media about this weapon system that can decisively defeat terrorists and insurgents. It is how this weapon system would now be used to change this conflict that will determine its success. Because of the delicate nature of this idea for the specific and intricate use of this weapons system in the Middle East, I will only speak of the details of it personally to preferably you or one of delegated personal representatives and to POTUS. I am approaching my 75th birthday and it my dream that in my lifetime that I leave this world when the time comes with having been instrumental in helping to accomplish the task to bring a possible peace to the State of Israel.
I believe that you, President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton can successfully guide the use of this weapons system to achieve what Presidents and Premiers before you aspired to. This can be your legacy, which will be far superior as a statesperson to any you might have ever achieved as Premier.
I sincerely hope that you will listen to this new and unique approach to resolving the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. All you have to lose is a little time to hear the unique use of this weapons system and see a vision of a peaceful and secure Middle East.
I leave you with one other thought from “WE THE PEOPLE”. Politicians, Governments, Presidents (and Presidents to be), Prime Ministers, Secretaries of State and Defense, Foreign Ministers, Defense Ministers, Parliaments, and Congresses make, declare and run Wars. However, it is always WE THE PEOPLE (and rarely, but not never, any of the above) who have to fight, be wounded or maimed, and die in the wars. True statesmen and stateswomen will only use war as a last method of dealing with terrorists and dictators of radical, totalitarian governments that use or support terror. Just as the pen is mightier than the sword, the "VOTE WEAPON" is more powerful than our mightiest military weapon. It is time to unleash its power to bring the practice of peace uniquely to the Middle-East.
My firm desire is “Next Year in Jerusalem”
MRCANDU10 (Cousin of MR.Get-It Done)
Well Mr. Prime Minister. perhaps you and POTUS will listen and maybe our dream of a true peace can be achieved.
Thank you
MRCANDU10 (Cousin of Mr. Get It Done)
I think untill Palestine is recognized as a country & Israel stops taking land from Palestine with no impunity the conflict will never end. I feel the U.S. created Israel and they should be thankful that they have land keep what they have and divide these two nations so that both nations can live at peace than if this does not work and Israel is attacked by all means defend yourself. But you can't bring peace when Israel also insights the otherside. There both in the wrong but Israel always has the backing of the U.S. and is funded by our government.
It simply means Israel MUST return All occupied land to Palesterians.
The land belongs to Israel since biblical times, and expelled only 2000 years ago. Archaeology evidence proves this beyond any doubt. They will not give their own land to a bunch of occupiers, the palestinians. Israel won 3 wars to keep what was theirs. If you want to live well, live peacefully with Israel. Seek war, and you forfeit the right to be treated as friend. It's the palestinian's choice.
It is Israel's land not the Palestinians. Get your history right.
The real question is, who armed the Palestinians with rockets? Follow the trail.
What a shame to begin the article by implying that it was the upcoming Israeli elections that led to the crisis! No! It was the Morsi's difficulties in Egypt that he wanted to deflect and commanded Hamas to intensify the missle firing into Israel.
if israel was left along,they would not bother anyone,but sooner or later they are going to get tired of this bs and do something serious about it,or at least i hope so.
It will take multiple generations to bring peace between these two countries/peoples – and only if both of their schools teach children that all people are created equal and deserving of respect.
McCain suggests Bill Clinton as Middle East peace negotiator....
The man is an idiot...you never do what an idiot suggest and second the war in Gaza means nothing...it will end soon as Hamas runs out of rockets.....it will begin again in about 3 years when they finally collect another supply of rockets to do this again...NEGOTIATIONS DON'T WORK....Israel will have to conquer Gaza and exterminate Hamas there...that will be the only way to end the problem with Gaza.
What this conflict means is one more confirmation that voting for Obama was a big mistake. As Romney complained during the debates, Obama went on an apology tour throughout the Muslim countries and purposely avoided contacts with Israel, including during official events. That sent a clear message to terrorists that USA for the first time in history would not stand behind Israel any longer in the event of an attack. And only two weeks after the elections we are witnessing the results of a weakened American image overseas at the edge of an international war in the Middle East that could have been prevented had Obama acted as a real leader in foreign matters. "Good job" democrats.
The key issue is this: Hamas is trying to kill civilians on purpose (intentionally targeting civilians) and Israel is not. Second: while Israel tries to avoid civilian casualties, Hamas is using their own people as human shields, causing additional Palestinian casualties. Third, Israel wants peace but Hamas sees all of Israel as occupied territory and is committed to the destruction of Israel. No comparison, no symmetry, no equivalence. The world can either continue pressuring Israel to show restraint in its self defense - which will never bring peace. Or the world can pressure the Palestinians to get rid of Hamas, accept Israel, and choose peace. Only the latter can bring peace, prosperity and nationhood for the Palestinians.
Amen Joel. Well said.
It is time for the Palestian people to rise up agains Hamas and throw them out. Otherwise let Isreal take care of business as they have a right to. Go Israel. The majority of Americans are with you.
Erin Burnett;
Maen Rashid Areikat was a guest on you show this evening. He cited the the 104 dead and 850 injured in Gaza was equivalent to 19,500 dead and 160,000 injured. Where does the conceded schmuck get off equating 104 to 19,500 dead Americans and 850 injured to 160,000 injured Americans. The (every filthy word you know) PLO and Areikat can kiss my (%$#@ ass. There is no Arab walking around with his two seater camel dragging with a string of goats or Arab in a suit, in what world, could possibly hope to be equal to an American, ever! Arabs are one step away from nomads wandering in a desert. Areikat should go back to his cave.
Iran who has been always bluffing about helping Hamas went silent as if nothing is happening. NasrAllah the black turbin guy who lead hizbilla caught a flu and his voice cords are infected. assad is losing his power and soon he will face the same fate as ghaddafi. I asked Hamas to halt launching missiles and think before you leap. Israel is defending it self. Gaza is losing and no arab country has the ball the stand against israel. by the end of the day Hamas is the biggest loser. Ahmadinenijad , Nasralli and assad are scam bags their end is coming very soon. israel can launch a war against all the arabs and occupy them combined from Tanga (marocco) to the residence of AYATU ALLLA and nijad. Nasraalli theblack turbin's day are numbered.
What brave men to thow bombs among women and children. Cowards I say. Men should go to the streets alone (Hamas to fight Israli men alone leaving the women and children out of harms way. The only thing that will change this is is that every man throws down his weapan ( despite great human loss ) to say I will kill no more for a few hundred feet of soil. Yea there is nothing worth keeping on the killing. A truce to save the children instead of a pep rally to go and kill some more. Some more of what, another child. No one in the world say "Great is he who killed a 5 year old. One thousand years killing is enough. Stop now. Simply say no, we beg you who watch this 2012 field of killing.
If my neighbors moved onto my property,I'd be ticked also.
The Israeli have forced the Palestinians back in their Ghetto so that the Israeli can contininue to rob, steal and cheat them with the approval of the US. The US is still following its Native American policy of segragation and apartheid, only now it is against the Palestinians. They have already robbed the Indians blind.
Lee Oates are you a jihadi extreemist? Are you one of those crazy arabs who blows themself up in the hopes that 40 virgins will be waiting for you in heaven?
Crazy Jihadi idiots – have you not seen these dirty arabs dragging a dead body behind a motorcycle? This is all that needs to be said to describe these dirty Arab camels. All of them should have pigs stuck up their ar$eholes, and nuked back to their 40 virgins in hell!
Israel is a 'big and old problem' in the Middel East. At the moment it is not easy to remove without terrible consequences. That theocratic democratic western military colonial base need to be accepted until the balance of power shift to more just and balanced world.
Nick are you a jihadi idiot? Israel has done more for the world than any of your stinking Arab camels have ever done. Take the camel S%IT out of your eyes!
Why don't you display the "Most Recent" comments first, and put the "post a comment" portion at the top of the comments so readers don't have to always scroll all the way to the bottom to post a comment?
Fred are you a neocon/Likud warmonger and apartheid ethnic cleanser. Do you beliieve all the way out of proportion killing of Palestinian kids is ok? Did you agree with Madeline Albright that the death of 500,000 Iraqi kids as a result of the embargoes, no-fly zones, sanctions, and destruction of infrastructure was "worth it"?
there is one piece of the argument noticeably missing from all of these comments.
does anyone really think that Hamas is doing this on its own
they wouldn't do anything without permission from Iran
Iran is supplying them with the rockets and everything else
this is a divergent orchestrated by Iran to keep Israel from going after their nuclear development
everything else is window dressing
Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. the IAEA says Iran is building a nuclear weapon you know the IAEA the same "independent' organization that said Iraq had weapons of Mass Destruction, that got us the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars that killed many civilians and injured and killed many American soldiers. Cost us Trillions of Dollars and created more enemies around the world. Iraq and Afghanistan are worse of since our invasion and wars and so is America. We need to stop policing the world because it has clearly done us more harm than good.
So many of us support a world view simply because it seems to be the closest to their own hearts, when we forget or never really know the reasons behind it; it's so often been buried in years of politics, false stories, or even war. But at some point near the very beginning of all conflict, you'll find a man who lacked in morals, a man who wanted more power than one man should have over another. Maybe he felt smarter, or stronger, or somehow more worthy. Who knows? But he felt righteous, and so he claimed more than his share. And so it began. Don't all problems stem from this, really? Someone exerting will over another? What will happen unless we all accept that we all should have equal access to the things we most desire as human beings? Failure to embrace that mankind has to possess certain moral qualities to co-exist is our enormous achilles heel. The people without the morals required to co-exist are the weak link to our entire race. Many would agree with me that those fighting so hard against Democracy are less enlightened, that the basic morals seem to have been bred out of them. They threaten mankind. What a huge realization, so huge maybe we don't see it? But they do. And there will never be peace as long as there is idealism such as this. I have no solution, no comfort, just this simple observation that comes at a bad time and my own need to voice it.
Yep, and i'm sure the israeili PM called his HAMAS buddies and asked them to fire rockets so he could HELP his election! REALLY?
The world today lives on manipulation of Facts and Figures... Those with resources are able to manipulate the environment to their advantage. The same goes to this conflict... As long as money can be made... There will be war
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