February 15th, 2013
05:49 PM ET

On GPS Sunday: Australia's gun control experience, and Larry Summers on U.S. jobs

"Fareed Zakaria GPS," Sundays at 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. ET on CNN

On GPS this Sunday: Is effective gun control really possible? Many argue Australia managed it after a gun massacre in 1996. Fareed speaks with former Prime Minister John Howard about Australia’s experience, how the country has managed to sharply reduce gun violence, and what the U.S. could learn.

“Now, I know the history of gun ownership in the United States. I respect it,” Howard says. “America has a Bill of Rights, Australia does not. The courts in Australia do not have the same capacity to decide these issues as they do in the United States.”

“So I acknowledge all of the differences. And clearly it is a debate that has to go on in the United States without people from the outside giving any lectures. And I'm not doing that. I'm simply explaining what we did, what our feelings and emotions were. And there was enormous public support, especially in urban areas, for what we did 17 years ago.”

Plus, how can we create jobs in America? Fareed sits down for a 1-on-1 interview with former U.S. Treasury Secretary Larry Summers.

And in What in the World, some fresh thinking on how to deal with a nuclear North Korea.

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  1. Mike

    AUSTRALIA IS AN ISLAND. They NEVER had the rate of gun ownership America has. They're apples and oranges, and you can't compare them without looking like a belligerent fool.

    February 16, 2013 at 12:44 am | Reply
    • Phil

      Yes there are lots of differences between Australia and US, as John Howard has acknowledged. There are similarities also, and we are all humans. Australia's experience does demonstrate that strict gun control can result in reduction of gun related death. The most relevant difference seems to me to be the 'enormous public support' in Australia.

      February 16, 2013 at 7:38 pm | Reply
    • Ben

      Your correct. You can't compare the two countries. Australia an Island (almost the same geographic size of the United States to be fair) had about 11 massacres in the ten years before the ban. There may have never been the same rate of gun ownership but a massacre is a massacre, lives are lost. There has been none since the ban 17 years ago in Australia. Some would call that a significant improvement. I love U.S it's my second home. I just hope one day it has the same success that Australia has had in terms of gun massacres and violence.

      February 18, 2013 at 8:25 am | Reply
    • belligerent fool

      In statistics, that's called a low sample size. That's why you compare other countries gun policies and their levels of gun violence. When confronted with the reality that gun violence in the US is much higher than other developed countries, you'd be a belligerent fool not acknowledge that.

      February 18, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Reply
  2. Mayer

    One new plan to create new US jobs: No.1: start investments in NATO, EU and US-friendly countries. No.2: No unnecessary imports from Asian countries. No.3: No business with Koreans (neither North nor South Korea). No.4: more imports into NATO, CEFTA, EU, Russia and US-friendly countries. No.5: limit anti-American networks operating in USA.

    February 16, 2013 at 4:55 am | Reply
  3. William

    I think the point not mentioned when talking guns in Australia is it has been illegal to own a concealed weapon for as long as I can remember. Hand guns are for Security and Police personnel and very restricted private ownership. Anybody watching the public gun debates in America saw the security screening prior to entry ensuring no guns entered the building making them the safest places in America. Now imagine if there were no guns in America other than professionals. It only takes one gun to kill or intimidate – good luck with your 300 million.

    February 17, 2013 at 7:51 am | Reply
    • Jake

      Hi William,
      The sad answer to your point is that the genie is out of the bottle. We cannot pretend that we can go back to the time before we knew how guns work. The technology is not particularly difficult to recreate from scratch as I watched a Afghani gun maker forge an AK-47 in the mountains.
      Criminals will find weapons whether they are built by illegal operations or legal ones; the police and citizens will acquire them in response. For my part, I cannot pretend either that there are no dangerous animals in nature that warrant carrying a firearm for defense or even for an emergency, signaling for help, or even hunting.
      So, why would we want to deny the basic rights to defense to the good citizen due to a very small number of 'nuts' ? Should we also take everyone's car because of some crazy drivers? We need a balanced answer, and extreme positions do not provide that.

      February 17, 2013 at 2:16 pm | Reply
      • zed

        But policies that make it harder for criminals to obtain guns reduce crime. Imagine if there were no background checks? or if felons could buy them? or if people could take guns anywhere: planes, courtrooms, prisons...
        With all due respect to our history and the rights afforded to us in the 2nd Amendment, we should still think of ways to reduce gun violence that don't mean bans.

        February 18, 2013 at 2:36 pm |
  4. James Smith


    Stop cherry picking the same old "experts" who promote your own ideology.

    Larry Summers is a case in point.

    Cutting spending and allowing an economic implosion HAS worked. Read Scandanavia in the early 1990s, the economic growth in Argentina following its history of economic collapse, even the United States in the early 1920s when they balanced the budget and RAISED interest rates, which in turn led to the roaring 20s.

    The problem is that your guests are academics and media elites. Why not talk to people who have a history of making a huge amount of money from reading the markets correctly? Why on Earth have you never had Jim Rogers on your show? Is it because he will not support your own views and you therefore DO NOT cherry pick him to come on to your show?

    James Smith
    Melbourne, Australia

    February 17, 2013 at 3:05 pm | Reply
    • Niederkrüchten 2020

      Agree, Larry Summers is just the advocat of the top 1% US elite. Following his way will lead to a bigger gini coefficient and inequality will remain high.

      February 17, 2013 at 4:20 pm | Reply
  5. Tim Bittenbender

    GIven the issues around the gun control band put into effect for Australia, it appears the gun viloence and killings ( other than suicide) didn't make any difference.


    It appears that CNN liberal bias on gun control wants the United States to follow the same direction as Australia which really doesn't work.

    February 17, 2013 at 7:35 pm | Reply
    • Phil

      Hi Tim, did you read the part of that article which said.'Other researchers have focused on mass shootings: there were 11 in Australia in the decade before 1996, and there have been none since. This appears to be a strong argument for gun laws designed to help prevent massacres like Port Arthur. ' ? And the part that said ' McPhedran and Baker are affiliated with the Sydney-based International Coalition for Women in Shooting and Hunting. '?

      February 18, 2013 at 5:30 am | Reply
    • Tom G

      I was amazed watching his piece with the former Austrailia PM to hear Fareed mention bans on assault weapons like the one used by the shooter at Sandy Hook. Does he know that this was wrong. The AR Bushmaster was found in his trunk, but to hear Fareed tell it, the shooter used the rifle in the school. I am just begining to see the definite bias in how Fareed runs his show.

      February 18, 2013 at 12:30 pm | Reply
      • Phil

        Wrong Tom, sherrif – who was there – says the bushmaster was used.

        February 18, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
  6. please transelate and pass to the FBI, CIA AND those who care

    وردنا خبرا مؤكدا مفاده ما يلي :
    المجرم واثق البطاط يتواجد حاليا في مدينة الشعله – في بيت يقع في نهاية شارع (60) بداية منطقة الدوانم مع مجموعه من المجرمين من المليشيات التابعه لفيلق القدس الايراني وينطلق من مدينة الشعله لتنفيذ عمليات الاغتيال في مناطق الغزاليه والسيديه والعامريه وبدعم لوجستي من مكتب القائد العام للقوات المسلحه

    تعليقنا //
    اين مذكرة القاء القبض بحق هذا الارهابي يا مالكي وهو لايبعد عن مقرك في المنطقه الخضراء اكثر من 15 كيلومتر ومليشياتك وجيشك الاجرامي يحاصر احياء الاعظميه والعامريه والسيديه لكي يتحرك هذا المجرم وعصابات فيلق القدس لقتل الابرياء وتصفية المطالبين بحقوقهم المشروعه

    February 18, 2013 at 12:14 am | Reply
  7. Mark Munro

    Larry Summers has no credibility. He derailed Brooksley Born from establishing OTC market for derivatives, which directly led to the financial meltdown.

    February 18, 2013 at 2:05 pm | Reply

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