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Fareed speaks with Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and National Security Agency, about tackling terrorism in the wake of the Boston attack.
Suppose you have a few of these people and they get radicalized on the Internet and they learn how to make this stuff through Inspire magazine or other...
There's lots of information on the Internet outside of al Qaeda sites. Is there something you could do? You ran the National Security Agency…
You can eavesdrop on conversations.
What could you do?
Look, there are probably things you could do on the margin that reduce the odds of this a bit, but I've taken to describing our efforts out here like this. And they’re good enough now that those things that used to really frighten us – 9/11, World Trade Center I, airliners over the Atlantic – very, very unlikely.
Now what have you got? You’ve got Boston. You’ve got Little Rock. You’ve got Najibullah Zazi trying to come here to New York. And now the question I ask the American public as an intelligence officer, “So what do you want me to do with my arm?”
I mean, I can push it down a bit. I can buy you marginally more safety. But at what cost? At what cost in your privacy? At what cost in your comfort, what cost in your convenience, at what cost in your commerce?
These are all very serious questions and the folks inside the American intelligence community will respond to the public. They’ll do what you tell them to do. But as a citizen, my judgment is that’s about where we want it to be. If you push this down much further, we do what I’ve said we haven't done to date, which is we begin to change our DNA as a free people.