Note to U.S.: We're not children
May 1st, 2014
01:44 PM ET

Note to U.S.: We're not children

By Einat Wilf, Special to CNN

Editor’s note: Einat Wilf is an adjunct fellow with the Washington Institute and a senior fellow with the Jewish People Policy Institute and a former member of the Israeli Knesset. The views expressed are the writer’s own.

The April 29 deadline set by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry for securing peace and a Palestinian state has passed. And so, after all the back and forth of threats and demands, and the Fatah-Hamas unity deal announced last week, what have we been left with? A couple stuck in a toxic – but for a number of years not an extremely bloody and violent – relationship; a surprisingly enthusiastic counselor who has insisted, against the protests of the couple, on dragging them into counseling; signs of the violence to come as tensions start to rise again between the couple; and a breakdown of the counseling accompanied by a rebuke by the counselor, who laments that he can’t want to fix the relationship more than the couple itself.

This is the story of the most recent round of failed Israeli-Palestinian negotiations. But while this latest push is interesting to dissect and discuss, it is secondary to the real issue, and the effort spent in the inevitable blame game following the breakdown of talks will prove pointless and futile. The fact is that the sides are miles apart. That is simply the way things are – and the two sides in this tug of war realize that better than anyone else.

The dispute between the Arabs and the Jews, between the Palestinians and the Israelis, and the story of the return of the Jewish people to their homeland, is unique and unparalleled in human history. The fact that the two sides are finding it difficult to reach a compromise and make the necessary “tough decisions,” to quote the U.S. president, should therefore come as no surprise.

Kerry, who took it upon himself to try to revive the talks, had initially set ambitious goals for the discussions, expecting no less than a full and final peace agreement between the sides by late this month. But while this quintessentially American spirit of "trying and failing is better than not trying at all" has helped make America great, in the Middle East – especially when it comes to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict – trying and failing is often far worse than not trying at all.

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After all, trying and failing has historically sparked greater violence and deeper despair – just look at the intifada that followed President Clinton’s failed peace efforts. In contrast, the years of stalemate that have characterized the Israeli and Palestinian situation prior to the forced renewal of talks under the stewardship of Kerry were some of the least violent and least bloody in decades of conflict, especially considering the mayhem the Middle East has been convulsed by in the wake of the so-called Arab Spring.

Granted, simply not killing each other is not the stuff that Nobel Peace Prizes are made of. But it is far better than being killed while negotiations are taking place. And, since the sides have been forced into negotiations, violence has escalated – just last week, Gaza-based militants fired half a dozen rockets into Israel on the last day of Passover.

Now, with Kerry’s deadline having come and gone, the two sides have been rebuked by a visibly exhausted secretary of state. President Obama, meanwhile, noted that the sides have not demonstrated the political will to make “tough decisions.” Yet although these words might be true, as they say in the recently celebrated Passover Seder, Ma Nishtana? What has changed?

True, the two sides were not happy with the stalemate. Quite the contrary. But for both sides, it was better than the realistic alternatives – and certainly better than the bloody violence that both sides have been trying to avoid, violence that could be triggered again by risky compromises that have the potential to tear both societies apart.

At the end of the day, Israelis and Palestinians are not children – they are political players quite capable of making their own calculations and choosing alternatives that are the least bad from their own perspective. They might not always be the alternatives that outside observers think they should choose, but both sides should, as other peoples around the world are, be free to judge what is in their own interests. Both Israelis and Palestinians are also very much aware of the decisions they need to make if they are to come to a full and complete peace agreement, one that recognizes the right of both peoples to the land. If they don’t make those decisions, it’s not because they don’t know what they are.

One day, when the geopolitical and political stars are aligned, peace will be possible. But until that moment comes, no amount of external prodding is going to make the two sides take decisions that they just aren’t ready to make.


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  1. John Smith

    America is the root of all terror. America has invaded sixty countries since world war 2.
    In 1953 America overthrow Iran's democratic government Mohammad Mosaddegh and installed a brutal dictator Shah. America helped Shah of Iran to establish secret police and killed thousands of Iranian people.
    During Iran-Iraq war evil America supported Suddam Hossain and killed millions of Iranian people. In 1989, America, is the only country ever, shot down Iran's civilian air plane, killing 290 people.
    In 2003,America invaded Iraq and killed 1,000,000+ innocent Iraqi people and 4,000,000+ Iraqi people were displaced.
    Now America is a failed state with huge debt. Its debt will be 22 trillion by 2015.

    May 2, 2014 at 3:36 pm | Reply
    • maryam

      Same Aljazeera poster using the same western name. Are you QUDS Force/Revolutionary Guard or Basij?Or just the typical Far Right of Iran who supports radical Iranian regime. Arabs came to defeat Persia, reduced Persian Zoroastrianism and other faiths to push Islam on the people(not chosen, but forced). There are many wonderful Muslims, but the point is the majority of Iranians would not choose to be run by the Islamic sharia laws, and many would prefer not to be a part of Islam, but they dont want to be called apostate. Once again, lots of wonderful Muslim people, but religion should be a choice, and you should be able to leave it if you so choose. You shouldnt have it forced on you via the government, who should be representing all the people of every religion, not basing rules for the country on their twisted words of the faith. Blaming US will get you nowhere. Iranians cannot oust their government, many want to leave the country, many want to leave the faith. That has nothing to do with the US.When a country goes into a war, you never know if it will be a good result or a bad one, even if your intentions are good, to go after criminals or to help those asking for assistance. If you want to talk about interference, lets talk about Irans. Instead of initiating war with others, they cause wars between countries behind the scenes. Theyve interfered and been in Iraq, causing more problems between sects, encouraging war, theyve definitely been found in Syria, giving bad advice to Assad, thinking Syria would be met with the same somewhat passive resistance as Iranian regimes heave hand. But Arab people fought back, while Iranians dont want a massacre, theyve been forced to live with this regime who entered there on false pretenses. yes they fooled you after the revolution. And even those involved in that revolution have regrets, for it brought a radical religious force that dominates the people by abusing human rights. Iran interferes in Africa, Afghanistan, South America, Azerbijan, Turkey, Palestine, and all around the world. They get caught red handed in many instances doing evil things but there isnt enough news about that. Many Iranians call their leaders wolves in sheeps clothing. You cant speak against them, they choose who you can vote for, they shout words of death and hatred by paying people to come to the streets, going to villages and bussing people in to rally words of hatred to others. "Death to ***" How many countries do that?Because even though I am sure its meant for the government, they should realize thats insulting an entire country of people, most of whom are good anywhere. I think if more investigation was done, they would see even more of Irans involvement in causing wars and civil unrest than they already know. Try saying anything against Iran regime on any government ruled website, it isnt printed. Iran has targetted many people, including Iranians abroad. Including a Saudia rep. There are FEW governments who are as brutal to their own people as Iran. Perhaps not as bad as North Korea, but they are ruthless and controlling. Hanging people in the streets for children to see? Arresting students for peaceful protests then beating and raping them in Evin prison? Nuclear weapons in the hands of crazy people who abuse their own people? The world should be going after them for human rights violations, and then the people of Iran would be on board. But they fear this regime, MORE than they feared the Shah. While I agree, the coup caused more problems, the concerns at the time were over Russia and Communism. Blaming others only keeps anger in our hearts and keeps us from moving forward in a better direction. All countries have their issues, all peoples get angry with their governemnts who are supposed to represent them but usually dont do so in the way we'd like them to. Most Iranian and American people are truly good people. Please separate governments from their people when you speak, and understand history from both sides. Oil and resources are a concern for all in the world, and will always lead to problems if governments are not reasonable. That leaves, we the people, who suffer for the wrong choices of those who are supposed to represent us. On the other hand, its very painful to have known how Saddam was abusing and killing his people, how Assad does the same. Iraqi Americans were concerned about their families and asked, what could the world do? Syrians do the same. It was painful to see Iranians killed for peaceful protests too. I had South Vietnamese friends whose families were being tortured by the Northern Communists, pleading for world help. There is a fine line these governments have to walk...do you assist them, or do you watch? Sometimes war becomes necessary, because evil people will take advantage of most of us in the world who are good. Communication and peaceful alternatives are needed firstly, but do not always work with such radical forces as Al Qaeda and other terrorists, whose agenda is to intentionally force others to live under their unjust and hateful direction with death and destruction. There are crazy people out there that are so irrational, that you cannot reason with them. We must always search for peaceful solutions. But killing your own people for peaceful protesting or leaving a faith is a serious issue. How do you keep the resources flowing freely for the world?How do you encourage all religions to live together in peace in countries with such difficulties? How do countries work together against terrorism and takeover of their countries by radicals? How to we help keep the peace? When do we intervene? All difficult things to measure and know how to act upon, because always the intended outcome may not be as you intended. Americans want peace as much as anyone, and they are working through issues the same as everyone. We are not God, we cannot foresee outcomes. But I can tell you this, American people as well as most others are very generous and giving to those in need. It wouldnt matter what country you came from, they would be there to help you . Maybe its time to focus on people and not the governments. Maybe its time to focus on positives and not the negatives. American people are strong and all need to do our best to bring the country forward. Everyone can be a good leader by using their own talents and give service to improvement and creativity. And we need to reach out to people like you, who you dont understand the people themselves. You dont hear from or about the quiet majority simply living their lives to raise family and helping others as well. The governments know when their people are not happy. Its a big job to make all those hefty decisions, I wouldnt want to be in their shoes. But I can influence the things I am more knowledgeable about and if Im not, I seek the information. Now, please move on from the past and try to move forward or you will stagnate with your thoughts and ill will.

      May 5, 2014 at 4:36 pm | Reply
      • ghander

        and yet your incredibly dense 5000 word essay does nothing to put a dent in John Smith's basic assertion: the us is, in fact, responsible for the creation of much of the worlds current conflict.

        May 5, 2014 at 5:02 pm |
      • G.M. Kelly

        Thank you all those interesting words. Yet, I can only anticipate that something as mentally ill as Muslims and Islam is hopeless and the best the USA can do let them die out. We need more drones to help it along.

        May 6, 2014 at 9:08 pm |
      • inferencial

        So tired of this B......s. Until the US turns off the money tap the status quo will remain.

        May 7, 2014 at 10:08 am |
      • inferencial

        @maryam you are either a housewife or you have no job.

        May 7, 2014 at 10:12 am |
    • Bruce

      The US the root of all evil, get a grip... No country has done more to help than the US, it is true we have gotten our noses into somethings that went south, but the good out ways the negative. The Arabs will always hate the Jews. You could move Israel out of the Middle East and into Antarctica and the Arabs would still complain about them. Enough of the poor victim defense get over it and let's see if the Arab nations can make something positive with the Palestinians who fought their wars and lost to the Israelis.

      May 12, 2014 at 12:40 pm | Reply
  2. OnTheRoad

    Both sides have proven time after time that they do not want peace! It is time for the rest of the world to stop giving anything to either side and to stop even talking with either side until they do sit down and actually make peace! And it is truly time for the U.S. to stop giving billions to Israel every year!

    May 3, 2014 at 9:38 am | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini©

      @ OnTheRoad, do you really think that the U.S.A. is going to stop pouring money into Israel?
      BTW, if that did happen, do you think that the saved money would be passed out to our citizens?

      May 3, 2014 at 1:39 pm | Reply
      • Thinker23

        "Stopping pouring money into Israel" and thus reducing the Israeli budget by about 2% would certainly not cause Israel to commit a national suicide. It would, however, take away a major US political tool in the Middle East. If it happened Israel would have to make adjustments, would use less precise and less expensive but no less effective ways to fight its enemies, would look for alternative sources of military and other supplies both within Israel and in other countries. In addition, stopping US aid to Israel would certainly encourage Palestinian and other terrorists causing more killings and more (mainly Palestinian but also Israeli, American and European) deaths. Are you sure that THIS is what you want, Joey?

        May 4, 2014 at 7:05 am |
      • mikie

        It's American money whether it's passed to or not that's for America to decide, it's still better here than in a foreign country that illegally colonized their neighbor under military force.

        May 4, 2014 at 9:35 am |
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini©

        @ Thinker23,
        I've looked over my post a few times since I read yours. I don't think that my post implies that I want anything.
        I've stated several times here that Israel serves the USA's interests.

        May 4, 2014 at 4:09 pm |
      • Thinker23

        Joey, you did not say that you wanted anything. I'll re-phrase my question changing "want" to "prefer". Basically, I've asked what was better for America, in your opinion.

        May 5, 2014 at 7:53 am |
      • maryam

        US also gives aid money to Palestine. Imagine how both sides would prosper if things could be worked out. Tourism would bring billions. Majority of people on both side are good people, its the leadership on both sides preventing a solution and the people are divided too. I personally feel very strongly that settlements should stop until resolution is met. I also feel that Arab leaders need to accept a Jewish state since they have so many Islamic ones. The biggest issue is land,the return of other Palestinians and accepting Israel as a Jewish State. There are people from both sides trying to work together towards peace and I applaud them so much. They are the true strength and fiber of their countries, trying to make a difference for both sides. The majority from both sides should rally together demanding peace from their governments. Yes there is so much to work out, but concessions from both sides are worth the peace and worth the productivity of both of their futures.

        May 5, 2014 at 4:50 pm |
      • Mark Levy

        Stop pouring money into Israel would send a message to Israel to stop occupying the State of Palestine illegally and stop building illegal settlements. Palestine is now a State at the UN and has access to the International Criminal Court, and Israel is VERY afraid to see Palestine joining the ICC and file a complaint for War Crimes against the illegal Israel occupation of Palestine.

        May 6, 2014 at 12:12 am |
      • Thinker23

        Mark Levy... Palestine is not a state yet. At least as long as it did not declared statehood. Further, Palestine is AT WAR with Israel. Occupation of enemy territory during a war is PERFECTLY LEGAL under international law. Finally, as long as Palestine (state of otherwise) is willing the war to continue it makes no sense to complain about the results. The ONLY way to end the war is through a PEACE AGREEMENT. If and when the Palestinians will produce a leadership ABLE AND WILLING to negotiate a peace agreement Israel will gladly agree, The resulting peace agreement will define the exact borders between Israel and the (still non-existing) Palestinian state as well as the terms and conditions of the Israeli withdrawal from the Palestinian territory defined by this future peace agreement.

        May 6, 2014 at 11:09 am |
    • Paul II

      ML: The UN has proven time and again it is run by people hostile to the existence of the state of Israel, particularly the HRC and the General Assembly. If you don't believe me look at the number of declarations against Israel and against the worlds *real* human rights violators like N Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia and China.

      May 11, 2014 at 8:21 pm | Reply
  3. Mark

    Pal Joey,
    The major portion of the approximately 3 billion in annual aid provided by the U.S. to Israel is required to be spent in the U.S. on defense related items. If the U.S. stops all the aid to Israel it is only hurting itself. The 3 billion dollars represents about 1 % of Israel's GDP, so go ahead and stop the aid. It will free Israel from the shackles of the Obama-Kerry Nobel prize and ego contest and in the end increase unemployment in the U.S.

    May 3, 2014 at 4:02 pm | Reply
    • mikie

      So??/ That's like saying here's a free million now go build yourself a free house but make sure you hire Americans to build it.

      May 4, 2014 at 9:36 am | Reply
  4. Chuck

    That photo of Kerry is hilarious.................

    May 3, 2014 at 6:13 pm | Reply
  5. CC

    Fig Tree reborn = This Generation

    May 4, 2014 at 12:38 am | Reply
  6. Truth

    The Israeli-Palestinian conflict will be resolved when both societies abandom their destructive beliefs that prohibit peace. The USA and other nations should remove money from the situation since it appears only to exploit the lack of peace.

    May 4, 2014 at 11:37 am | Reply
    • ghander

      no. peace will be realized when each side takes responsibility for what it has done. israel needs to take responsibility for creating a violent middle east through its dismissal of legitimate arab land claims & for colluding with balfour to create an illegal state. palestine needs to take responsibility for....defending itself from illegal removals through use of guerilla tactics.

      May 5, 2014 at 5:05 pm | Reply
  7. tabletto1948

    Who are the real heirs of Palestine? Amazing story behind the link.

    http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/palestine.html

    May 4, 2014 at 12:05 pm | Reply
    • Thinker23

      There are many "amazing stories" on the internet. Amazingly, very few of these stories are true...

      May 5, 2014 at 7:54 am | Reply
      • cocopuf4u

        ... and of course, by this you are implying that the above like is untrue. LOL

        May 5, 2014 at 11:07 pm |
  8. toronto girl

    they have come close many times, and the last time was when Ehud Barak offered Arafat 90% of what he wanted, and STILL he turned it down. When I heard that, I knew he and the others in the Arab side would NEVER sign any deal because they would lose all that "pity" and "sympathy" and having the newly discovered "Palestinians" as a bargaining chip to waggle them in front of the world as the victims in the Arab Israeli dispute.

    Sign any peace deal, and what do you have? Hopefully, no war. But no war takes away the raison-d'etre for all those terrorists and militants and martyrs.

    Sad truth is, the Arabs could sign any peace deal they want, but they have thousands of fellow Arabs who will not agree and assassinate them. They have done it before, so why should we expect any different??

    May 5, 2014 at 12:01 am | Reply
    • Thinker23

      " Ehud Barak offered Arafat 90% of what he wanted, and STILL he turned it down."

      I have to disagree with this statement. Arafat and his successors wanted and continue to want ALL of Palestine. Free of Jews... and this is way less than Barak or anyone else have offered to them at any time.

      May 5, 2014 at 7:57 am | Reply
      • Mark Levy

        Thinker23 is a racist zionist.
        Israel is occupying Palestine illegally and Palestine, now a State at the UN since 2012, may join the International Criminal Court and file a complaint against Israel for War Crimes. Israel is VERY angry/afraid by this.
        Mark, Jew for a Just peace and the end of this Illegal Occupation by Israel.

        May 6, 2014 at 12:17 am |
    • ghander

      if someone breaks into your house, steals your property, kills your children, takes your land and then offers you recompense for everything except you cannot have the land, what would you do? land = freedom. israel wants to subjugate arabs, period. they dont want them to have the freedom to grow as a nation state; thats a right israel reserves for itself. im glad he rejected it. it sends a message to all colonial forces that indigenous peoples will not negotiate with state terrorists.

      May 5, 2014 at 5:10 pm | Reply
      • Thinker23

        "if someone breaks into your house, steals your property, kills your children, takes your land and then offers you recompense for everything except you cannot have the land, what would you do?"

        For starters, I would PRODUCE THE LEGAL DEEDS proving that the supposedly "stolen" house, property and land are indeed mine. Interestingly enough, EVERY discussion involving "stolen Palestinian land" ends by my request to SHOW THE LEGAL DEEDS proving that the land in question belongs ONLY to the Arabs.

        May 9, 2014 at 7:20 am |
      • Nogoodnick

        The same could be said of the USA and the land that belonged to the natives

        May 10, 2014 at 2:42 pm |
  9. blisterpeanuts

    I agree with others that Israel should politely decline further military aid from the U.S. This aid lends the impression that Israel is beholden to the U.S. when in fact it is the U.S. that is indebted to the Israelis, for technology, military intelligence, and a constant democratic ally in a mostly hostile part of the world. The Israelis today can make their own weaponry, in most cases better than American weaponry, and they would be free to sell it on global markets, obviously not what the Americans want.

    The writer is correct. There will be peace in the Middle East when the Arabs decide to live in peace. The Israelis have always been open to peaceful negotiation, but unfortunately there is no one to negotiate peacefully with. The Arabs have to get their act together, and Kerry needs to understand this. You can't force a shotgun marriage on two enemies and expect it to work.

    May 5, 2014 at 8:10 am | Reply
    • JC

      Israeli's and Palestinians act like children. Both claim sole ownership of the sandbox, not part of it, but ALL of it.

      Israel is hardly democratic. The concept of a "Jewish State" is no more democratic than the concept of a "Catholic State". Israel IS becoming a defacto "apartheid" state as it MUST in order to remain a "Jewish State". There is no discussion on this.

      The best case scenerio is for the US to disengage entirely and let the Israeli's and Palestinians work it out on their own. Withdrawal all aid from both sides and maintain normal diplomatic relations. U.S. involvement in the process only makes them an easy target for the failures.

      Now as for current U.S. support for Israel. Many US supporters are for the most part Evangelicals who believe that they can ultimately convert the Israeli's to Christianity. Good luck with that.

      May 5, 2014 at 12:15 pm | Reply
      • SLJ

        As an Evangelical who has lived in Israel for 14 years, I believe this article is quite accurate. True peace will not come easy and it will not come by man’s hand. It’s not political its religious ideology that is at war here. I would like to add that as an Evangelical we have not converted anyone.

        May 5, 2014 at 1:57 pm |
      • John L Tinkham

        I agree take away the money and a sense of urgency will arrive in In Israel and Palestine. We have coddled Israel much too long with aid annually amounting to $400 for every man woman and child. They need to face their own reality and Israel allowed to show if it's true intention is complete domination of Palestine. Should this be the case let them know the consequences without USA involvement.

        May 8, 2014 at 10:06 am |
      • Thinker23

        "Israel is hardly democratic. The concept of a "Jewish State" is no more democratic than the concept of a "Catholic State"."

        This is a blatant lie. A "Catholic State" implies that the state is being ruled by Catholic priests in accordance to the Catholic religious laws. The same is true for a Islamic state (Iran or Saudi Arabia are good examples of such states). Israel, however, is a SECULAR state ruled by a SECULAR government in accordance to SECULAR laws issued by a

        May 9, 2014 at 7:25 am |
      • Thinker23

        "Israel is hardly democratic. The concept of a "Jewish State" is no more democratic than the concept of a "Catholic State"."

        This is a blatant lie. A "Catholic State" implies that the state is being ruled by Catholic priests in accordance to the Catholic religious laws. The same is true for a Islamic state (Iran or Saudi Arabia are good examples of such states). Israel, however, is a SECULAR state ruled by a SECULAR government in accordance to SECULAR laws issued by a SECULAR Parliament members of which are DEMOCRATICALLY elected by ALL Israeli citizens of ALL religions and races. This makes the Jewish State no less democratic than the Greek State, the French State, the German State, the Italian State, etc. All these states are being seen as Greek, French, German, Italian, etc. because the majority of their respective populations are ethnic Greeks, French, Germans, Italians and so on. If and when the Arabs will become the majority in France, for example, it will become an Arab state... Just like Syria, Iraq or Sudan.

        May 9, 2014 at 7:33 am |
      • Thinker23

        John,

        ending US aid to Israel will reduce Israeli budget by about 3%. While this is a considerable amount of money it would hardly cause Israel to commit a national suicide. Most probably, Israel will have to look for alternative sources of military supplies which it now buys from the US. It will switch to less precise and less costly (but no less effective) means to fight its enemies (for example, it will use tanks and artillery instead of laser guided missiles and attack helicopters and will destroy the city block were a terrorist is hiding instead of destroying the room where he is sitting). Israel will, possibly, cut supply of water, electricity and other goods from Gaza and the West Bank until the Palestinians will pay off their debts. One thing is certain: Israel will not cease to exist.

        May 9, 2014 at 7:41 am |
  10. Mark Levy

    The big problem is that now Israel=Apartheid.
    Palestinians being treated and considered as second class citizens, AND Palestine being occupied illegally by Israel.
    Mark, Jew for a Just Peace and the End of this Illegal Occupation by Israel.

    May 6, 2014 at 12:20 am | Reply
    • Thinker23

      Mark: "Palestinians being treated and considered as second class citizens, AND Palestine being occupied illegally by Israel."

      This is a bunch of lies. First, Palestinians are NOT citizens of Israel, NOT "considered" citizens and NOT "treated" as citizens in Israel. Further, Palestinians are AT WAR with Israel. It is PERFECTLY LEGAL to occupy enemy territory during a war.

      If and when the Palestinians will produce a leadership ABLE AND WILLING to stop violence, recognize Israel and NEGOTIATE A PEACE AGREEMENT the war will and with it will the occupation. The Palestinians will become proud first class citizens of their own country which will be totally free of Jews.

      May 9, 2014 at 7:46 am | Reply
  11. krehator

    Then stop acting like children....

    May 6, 2014 at 6:50 pm | Reply
  12. USAPeasant

    Palestine has never even existed. The muslims have been given every single opportunity imaginable to have a Palestinian State and they decline each time. Israel has given up tons of land, and no one ever makes it into Palestine.

    The Palestine Game is little more than a bullcrap muslim ploy to try to destroy Israel. That's all it ever has been, that's all it ever will be.

    Enough is enough, stop bullying Israel and stop trying to steal Israel's land.

    May 8, 2014 at 2:31 pm | Reply
  13. Rick McDaniel

    Kerry is failing, just as surely as can possibly be imagined.

    May 10, 2014 at 2:44 pm | Reply
  14. Visioman

    "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti – Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
    David Ben Gurion (first Israeli PM, quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
    "For eight years now, they have sat in the refugee camps of Gaza and have watched how, before their very eyes, we have turned their lands and villages, where they and their forefathers previously dwelled, into our home." General Moshe Dayan, Israeli military hero – 1956

    May 10, 2014 at 11:00 pm | Reply
  15. atavisms

    Of course they're children. The heart of this conflict is tribalism/religion. If you cannot distinguish between mythology/fantasy and reality, this is indeed very much like the the mind of a child.

    May 11, 2014 at 10:26 am | Reply
  16. Bludgeon

    Mark Levy

    Stop pouring money into Israel would send a message to Israel to stop occupying the State of Palestine illegally and stop building illegal settlements. Palestine is now a State at the UN and has access to the International Criminal Court, and Israel is VERY afraid to see Palestine joining the ICC and file a complaint for War Crimes against the illegal Israel occupation of Palestine.
    -----------------------------------------------------

    FAIL.
    Palestine is NOT a state.
    Palestine does NOT want to be a state.
    Why ?
    As a territory they have some UN protection.
    As a state, if they send rockets to Israel it would be an act
    of war and Israel would retaliate FULL OUT.

    May 11, 2014 at 11:34 am | Reply
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