August 9th, 2014
11:39 AM ET

Why U.S. should help the Kurds

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By Fareed Zakaria

The situation in Iraq today is perilous, but also chaotic and confusing. Should the United States do more to help the communities under threat of destruction? If it does intervene for humanitarian reasons here, then why not in a place like Syria, which has seem many terrible atrocities and massacres as well? How should we think through the issue?

I have been cautious about urging the United States to get back into Iraq, but I believe that in the current circumstances, the Obama administration should intervene more forcefully and ambitiously, use air power, offer training support and weaponry if needed.

Why?

The humanitarian crisis unfolding in Iraq is terrible enough. But sometimes, as in Syria, it is unclear whether U.S. military intervention could really help matters, whether there’s a clear plan that would work. In Iraq now there is such a path, one that also offers the strategic rationale for U.S. action.

What is now at stake in Iraq is crucial to U.S. interests – the survival of the Kurdish region in that country.

Since 1991, for 23 years, the United States has protected the Kurds of Iraq from being attacked and destroyed as a community. In that period, the Kurds have built up a modern, increasingly liberal, pro-Western and pro-American oasis in the Middle East.

The largely autonomous Kurdish region of Iraq has become an open, cosmopolitan, forward-looking place with a booming economy – construction cranes, car dealerships and fast food chains sprout up every day.

The American University in Sulaimani is a place marked by a modern educational outlook and open dialog. Kurdish leaders have been responsible in their efforts to secure their future – not declaring independence, working to end Kurdish terrorism in Turkey, supporting humanitarian efforts for Syrian refugees. They have been a force for stability in a region in chaos.

One of the lessons of American foreign policy over the last six decades has been that interventions work when the locals are led by popular, legitimate leaders and they want to fight for their cause. Think of South Korea compared with South Vietnam – they don’t work when the locals simply will not fight.

The Kurds want to fight for their freedom, for their independence. They have a strong, well-trained army. Their leaders are popular and legitimate, they have been close allies of the United States. Now they urgently need America's help. The Obama administration should answer their call.​

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  1. Eddie Selby

    I understand international policy can be complicated and public opinion factors into decisions made but when you have humanitarian issues at stake we as a world superpower must intervene and assist in finding a solution.

    August 9, 2014 at 12:09 pm | Reply
    • Witt84z

      I agree with you and the Author.

      August 9, 2014 at 12:31 pm | Reply
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini

        Well, I do not!

        August 9, 2014 at 4:41 pm |
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      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini©

        @ My Troll is wrong, but for the wrong reasons.

        August 9, 2014 at 6:12 pm |
      • husky60

        airstrikes, military aid to the Kurds and assisting the Iraqis in launching an all out attack on ISIS coming up from Baghdad. ISIS are sitting ducks in the desert. This situation is tailor made for drones and jets. In the meantime get rid of Maliki and get a real leader who the sunnis will trust and cooperate with.. When that happens, ISIS will be toast.

        August 9, 2014 at 7:17 pm |
    • writingto11

      It's a nice thought but it never ends – why this crisis and not others? We have to be more picky than just "humanitarian" – which is Zakaria's point. This is humanitarian PLUS strategic interest.

      August 9, 2014 at 1:42 pm | Reply
    • smw315

      I agree 100%. If we don't support our allies, we will lose them. We have a humanitarian obligation to those threatened with genocide and we have an obligation to protect our own people in the region. There should be no argument regarding the legitimacy of President Obama's decision.

      August 9, 2014 at 2:11 pm | Reply
      • j. von hettlingen

        Obama has been able to convince the international community to pay attention to the plight and grievances of the Yazidis. It is rallying behind him in this relief campaign. It makes sending US personnel back to Iraq more acceptable. It has to draw a line in the sand that there would be no combat boots on the ground.

        August 13, 2014 at 11:39 am |
    • rrobeson

      By definition of humanitarian, anybody hungry, sick, or oppressed is a humanitarian interest. The US simply cannot cure the world of these ills. At least not without conquering all other governments and becoming the Supreme Empire of earth. And then, America would be the cause of all these ills and it would be the responsibility of all the world to defeat America. Thinking good thoughts, praying good prayers, are one thing. Telling Americans that all bad things in the world are their responsibilities are simply irrational, unreasonable, and un-American.

      August 9, 2014 at 4:47 pm | Reply
    • World Cop1

      When you're the recipient of bomb attacks, then you have ruthless bombers as well. Decapitations and maimed body parts occur during bomb raids. I'm sure that's what the citizens felt in Iraq and Syria. Hence they sought revenge. War sucks! It displays the abilities of humans to torture each other. I believe all solutions given have some merit, but they will not solve current issues. We can't even solve our own domestic issues like illegal immigration, capital crimes, health care, school closings, unemployment, robberies, etc., but our government has spent millions of dollars trying to solve overseas issues. We can't allow genocide that occurred in in Germany, Cambodia, Bosnia, Russia, etc. I hope the world just get along some day. WAR SUCKS!

      August 9, 2014 at 6:16 pm | Reply
  2. chocopoppy

    I understand why we're fling this but isn't it odd that countries like China, India, and Russia rarely seem compelled to get involved ?

    August 9, 2014 at 12:16 pm | Reply
    • Witt84z

      You have a great question. China and Russia (not sure about India) are, unfortunately involved. They take advantage of our sacrifices to create stability in an area by swooping in and buying up resources. We so not wish to be viewed as a country that will come in take over and take resources (even if it would be desired by the people we help). China and russia do not care and seize resources via contracts with big money.

      August 9, 2014 at 12:27 pm | Reply
    • Howard

      Isn't it silly to expect nations that seem to have little compassion for their own people to manifest compassionate concern for those elsewhere?

      August 9, 2014 at 12:32 pm | Reply
    • Pawan

      India is a developing country with a fragile economy,and a large poor populatation.So India cannt take such costly interventations.India also doesn't posses the large number of high-tech weaponary and has to deal with two hostile neighbours China and Pakistan. Other thing is India has largest number of muslims I think after Indonesia. Any intervention in Iraq may complicate things for India. The last real intervention India made was in Sri-Lanka which was a disaster and led to large deaths of young Indian soldiers. This is another factor. I thing lack of weapon superiority which US enjoys is the major factor.

      August 9, 2014 at 1:31 pm | Reply
    • smw315

      Look who they are........selfish people who would sell each other out for profit.

      August 9, 2014 at 2:13 pm | Reply
    • Scott

      Unfortunately, we are the lone country in the world with resources to take on such endevours. It is the price you pay as the lone world super power. Remember the earthquake back in Pakistan a few years ago? Who could have carriers there to offer relief as fast as we did? No one. It is a curse, but, many are thankful for it.

      August 9, 2014 at 4:06 pm | Reply
    • rrobeson

      That's because according to Americans only 4% of the world has humanitarians, the other 96% don't live in the USA and therefore don't help anybody for any reason. Nah, Americans don't have an ego problem...

      August 9, 2014 at 6:19 pm | Reply
      • Fred Phred

        Well Robe, maybe we're just tired of being the janitor for the world and having to clean up your messes. I'd rather you just said thank you and keep the comments to yourself. You're like an ungrateful teenager who thinks his parents are idiots – yet they pay the bills, clean the house, and keep you safe.

        You're welcome.

        August 9, 2014 at 7:55 pm |
  3. Cheetahe

    We should help without putting boots on the ground. They have the people and if they have the political and national will to fight they should overwhelm these few fanatic fighters. This time we are not sending our kids to die in those faraway deserts.

    August 9, 2014 at 12:27 pm | Reply
  4. Gary McCollom

    Another example of why the UN is a complete joke, you have thousands of innocent people and children trapped on a mountain about to be exterminated and yet the UN is too busy trying to have Israel removed from the middle east, almost double the amount of people that have died because of Hamas and yet you hear nary a peep from the UN.

    A joke is what it is and anyone that has the audacity to point to the UN as a centerpiece of their argument is also a joke.

    August 9, 2014 at 12:33 pm | Reply
    • smw315

      The UN is a do-nothing, worthless organization. We should throw them out of the USA.

      August 9, 2014 at 2:14 pm | Reply
  5. Mike

    Move all the Western Bases from Muslm countries and re locate them to Kurd's territory, create them (Kurds) a separate country and western countries stop buying oil form the other Arab countries and let the Chinese buy it. The Islamist threat is real and will send the middle east and euroipe into a new dark ages if they are not stopped. They are worst then criminals and nazis

    August 9, 2014 at 12:33 pm | Reply
    • equestrian

      What an ignorant, narrow minded and ridiculous comment! Why should anybody fully trusts the Kurds? Kurdish terrorists murdered civilians by thousands! They are as ruthless and immoral as ISIS!

      August 9, 2014 at 1:41 pm | Reply
      • Dyako

        This comment comes from a Turkish racist. I am sure. It is what you say and only you.

        August 9, 2014 at 2:01 pm |
      • smw315

        If that's your honest opinion, you're a mis-informed moron.

        August 9, 2014 at 2:15 pm |
      • karo

        where the kurd kill the civil peaple? i think you are a muslem

        August 9, 2014 at 3:30 pm |
      • birevan

        Diffidently he is a pathetic and ignorant Turk and left over from Ottoman empire .

        August 9, 2014 at 5:37 pm |
      • Fred Phred

        Don't kid yourselves, people know by now not to trust any Arab people. They'll ask you for help and stab you in the back. Kurds are no exception.

        It just so happens that the Kurds are the best of a bad lot.

        August 9, 2014 at 8:09 pm |
    • writingto11

      You're right that this is what they want, but they are incapable of achieving it. If a five year-old says they want to be emperor of the world, you don't bomb them.

      August 9, 2014 at 1:44 pm | Reply
      • Fred Phred

        And what is means is they will sponsor terrorism in Turkey and Iran in the meantime.. Despite the fact that they cannot achieve their goal. Do you think the 911 bombers think they can really take over the whole world? Probably not but it doesn't mean they didn't try to stir the pot. It's the same with every muslim group that is unhappy with their current situation – they don't practice politics.. they don't participate in the political system, they kill people instead in the hopes that it can change the status quo.

        August 10, 2014 at 3:23 pm |
  6. agmsports

    It's not odd that China or India get involved they don't really have a navy that stretches past their home territory. China has 1 aircraft carrier, they don't have bases around the globe. India does not have an aircraft carrier. Russia has Ukraine on it's mind. China and India are only ever concerned about their own regions. China has been trying to find the first downed Malaysian Airlines plane though with their naval assets though.

    August 9, 2014 at 12:34 pm | Reply
  7. Matt

    I am someone who is generally against US intervention abroad, I think our military is over funded, our bases too widespread, and am wary of any US intervention abroad. However, I completely support this campaign for many reasons. The Kurds have been victims of genocidal campaigns for decades, the U.S. implied military support for the Kurds in '91 and abandoned them when they rose up, and yet they still staunchly supported us and fought alongside us to hold the northern regions of Iraq in 2003. As you mention, they are one of the only true democracies in the Middle East and its society respects gender equality which unfortunately is rare among Muslim countries. Their past decade or so as a flourishing autonomous region has shown the Kurds are genuinely interested in joining the rest of the Western world. They've used their freedom not to harbor radicals, but to build schools and colleges, seek foreign investment for industry development, and advance the quality of life for the Kurdish people. This could become the best template for democracy in the middle east and that I'm sure, has the surrounding nations worried about their own fate. If the U.S. wants to try and re-kindle its fading image as a country which supports the roots of democracy, then supporting the Kurds is a vitally necessary action.

    August 9, 2014 at 12:40 pm | Reply
    • SirDigby

      Excellent post. I wonder though if our government's reluctance to go "all-in" to help the Kurds isn't based partly on concern for how the Turkey, our NATO ally, would react to the establishment of a potent Kurdistan as a neighboring country. The Turks often actively suppressed the large Kurdish population that lives within Turkish borders, particularly because of the actions of the PKK, which Turkey (and the USA also I believe) considers to be a terrorist organization.

      August 9, 2014 at 12:49 pm | Reply
    • Bakhtiar

      Bravo. Good point. There is hope always when there honorable men like you calling to do the right thing, even if
      difficult.

      August 9, 2014 at 3:50 pm | Reply
    • itsyk

      The Kurdish state should also include those portions of Turkey and Iran where they reside. As you may know, Turkey is our enemy.

      August 9, 2014 at 5:42 pm | Reply
      • Stuart

        Turkey is a member of NATO and a long time ally of the US.

        August 9, 2014 at 7:15 pm |
      • Fred Phred

        And that mentality is why you'll only get limited help. The second the threat is done, you'll go back to terrorism in Turkey and Iran. Good luck with that philosophy.

        August 9, 2014 at 8:11 pm |
    • Phil

      The biggest problem the Kurds face is they are an ethnic group spread across several borders. Dissolution of the Ottoman Empire and Colonial division of the land base after WW1 divided their voice among the new nations they now reside. Creation of a Kurd nation should pay careful attention to the Potsdam Declaration and creation of Israel and Palestine. The underlying problem for the whole middle east is everyone claims some part as their "homeland". Frankly they are all correct. A review of Jerusalem would show this city has changed hands over 40 times since it was founded by King David.

      August 9, 2014 at 7:35 pm | Reply
  8. SirDigby

    We should have helped the Kurds long ago, immediately after the first Gulf war when there was a popular uprising against a very much weakened Saddam Hussein and Baath party. Instead, Bush Sr. and his administration stood idly by and watched as the Baathists used chemical weapons and brutality to put down the Kurdish revolt. For shame.

    August 9, 2014 at 12:43 pm | Reply
  9. axaris

    This is a double edged knife Mr. Zakaria. The Kurds are spread in 3 countries in the region and one of them is Turkey. Can the US afford to push Turkey towards more internal turmoil?

    August 9, 2014 at 12:47 pm | Reply
  10. Larry

    The more terrorists we extinguish the better

    August 9, 2014 at 12:50 pm | Reply
    • George patton

      Such is to be expected from someone like you Larry, with your very obvious limitations! You obviously know nothing at all about those people over there. In fact, did you ever get past the 5th grade in school?

      August 9, 2014 at 12:58 pm | Reply
      • Larry

        Yes George, I did. Obviously, you didn't. You didn't cap your last name, which we all know is not you but instead a great American general. Now why don't you go guzzle your beer and watch re-runs of "Leave it to Beaver?"

        August 9, 2014 at 1:46 pm |
    • gwtheyrn

      Make the world a better place one dead Arab at a time.

      August 9, 2014 at 2:09 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini

      No Larry, it is never a good thing to kill anyone. This situation needs to be settled diplomatically rather than by bloodshed.

      August 9, 2014 at 4:45 pm | Reply
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini©

        (Clearing his throat)
        Ah, @ My Troll, My Troll.

        August 9, 2014 at 6:02 pm |
      • Jayson

        Diplomacy works with rationale people and ISIS is anything but rational

        August 9, 2014 at 7:52 pm |
  11. Marion

    Yes, SirDigby American should be ashamed of letting the Kurds down in 1991. We're lucky that they did not hold it against us and fought to hold the northern regions of Iraq in 2003. They are our friends and are strong, proud and resilient people. President Obama needs to put down the golf clubs and read a history book. Our friends need us now as the US needed the support of its allies in fighting for our own independence from England so many years ago.

    August 9, 2014 at 12:54 pm | Reply
  12. George patton

    Someone sorely needs to help the Kurds since the French and the British betrayed them in 1923 with the ignominious Treaty of Lausanne, which allowed Turkey to keep northern Kurdistan while lumping the southern part with the newly created kingdom of Iraq by the French and the British. I wish that more people were aware of this simple fact.

    August 9, 2014 at 1:02 pm | Reply
  13. Amir Farsi

    I am sick and tiered of this stupid analysis by Mr. Zakaria. I am an Iranian American and I wonder how stupid our politicians and news analyst can be not to see obvious facts. This ISIS and other fanatic Islamist are saying out loud that they aimed to destroy the modern society. They are not couple of trolls in the internet to say this, this ideas are coming from organized terrorist groups and also some governments. Yes, Government of Islamic regime of Iran has the same ideology. This is why Iran support Hamas and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Now, imagine if this people have access to deadliest weapon of mass destruction. Can you imagine if Iran make atomic bomb? We are already late to act in case of ISIS and we will be late if we can not act fast in other cases. This is also a propaganda war. Obama need to send this message to the world that United State can not tolerate fanatic Islamist groups. Obama also need to engage Europe in this matter.

    August 9, 2014 at 1:05 pm | Reply
    • readerpan

      "United State can not tolerate fanatic Islamist groups."

      And what do you propose as the alternative? World War III?

      August 9, 2014 at 4:17 pm | Reply
      • Jayson

        WWIII? Now there's an ignorant analysis since were talking about Islamic Extremists, not taking down Russia or China

        August 9, 2014 at 7:54 pm |
    • Eugene23

      Agree. I've written before that ISIS is out to control the world. They've said so. Once they take Iraq and Syria, they'll just keep going. And with their financial resources, they will soon have deadlier weapons. We can't afford to wait. I am
      disappointed in Fareed and even Obama, to some extent. They are saying we need to stop ISIS to save the Kurdish people, Iraq and the Yazidis. Fine. But the most compelling reason is to stop these ruthless terrorists whose ambition is world domination.

      August 9, 2014 at 7:50 pm | Reply
      • Fred Phred

        Who says it's up to the US to fix?

        Why doesn't the Arab league do something if they find ISIS to be out of control. Where is France? England? Canada? Germany? Russia? China? !@#!@# Anybody? People are so quick to dump on the US and then yell to them for help as soon as the stuff hits the fan.

        Time for somebody else to put the big boy pants on.

        August 9, 2014 at 8:02 pm |
  14. Ersin eren

    Kurds do have an army but fought and experienced as a militans. Never gight to organized army before thats why couldnt handle the ISIS

    August 9, 2014 at 1:06 pm | Reply
  15. Amir Farsi

    Kurdish leaders are mostly moderate lefties. Because, traditionally they had to fight for their right against Iran and Turkish governments who were supported by western countries. In 70 and 80s they used socialist (or in some cases communist) ideology to fight back against this regimes who were either totalitarian(Sadam in Iraq), religious(Islamic regime of IRAN), or westernized American supported(Turkey and Shah of Iran). Because of this socialist communist ideology, US never tried to engage with Kurds and also other moderate groups in the region. In the return this fanatic Islamists gain the power through years. Now people like Fareed Zakaria are saying we have to back Kurds. Where have you been those years when Kurdish people had to fight for their right against United State backed governments?

    August 9, 2014 at 1:28 pm | Reply
    • Alan S

      Mr. Farsi: Your comment is interesting, and perhaps valid in many ways. Remember, though, that during the 45 years of the Cold War, international relationships were not as simple as the good guys and the bad guys. The US befriended nations it otherwise wouldn't, simply because those nations - like Iran under the Shah - also opposed the Soviets. The enemies of our enemies were our friends. Now, with the USSR gone (admittedly, Mr. Putin has made today's Russia a concern that is similar in some ways to the old USSR, but even today's Russia is far less threatening to the U.S. than was the USSR), those relationships can be re-evaluated: and they are multi-lateral instead of bi-lateral, and therefore more complex.

      August 9, 2014 at 1:42 pm | Reply
      • Amir Farsi

        This is exactly my point. We need to re-evaluated those relationships. The fact is socialism phobia made US to support Islamists.

        August 13, 2014 at 1:46 am |
  16. Lobo

    I've been to Kurdistan and worked there. No where else, except maybe Tunisia, do I see the pluralism / inclusiveness that is required to sustain a democracy other than in the KRG. The Kurds want to live and prosper as any one else, but they recognize that they need to let go of the shackles or fog of religion that has prevented all others in the Middle East from truly progressing. I think the Kurds get it; separation of church or mosque or temple needs to pursued to enable the pluralism, gender equality and other basic democratic principles, including freedom of religion. At some point we need to make a stand with those who seek the same things as we do. If we truly want to make an impact on the region with an example to others in the region, then this is the best path in the long run for everybody including ourselves from wasting our blood and guts on those who don't give a damn about democracy and freedom and only seek to propagate the cycle of revenge under the guise of religion.

    August 9, 2014 at 1:40 pm | Reply
  17. Ted

    My God, I lived to see the day when I heard a meaningful speech by Zakaria to help the Kurds.

    August 9, 2014 at 1:58 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini

      Yes Ted, this time Fareed Zakaria has it right. In fact, the whole international community needs to help the Kurds in their quest for a homeland.

      August 9, 2014 at 2:21 pm | Reply
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini©

        @ My Troll,
        I don't pay you to write something that I might write. This is a letter of warning, and it will remain in your file.
        I agree with Mr. Zakaria. We should help the Kurds militarily.
        We should do that because there is something in it for us.

        August 9, 2014 at 3:45 pm |
  18. kia

    turkey is the main supporter of ISIL terrorism , thats why they don't participate in aerial strikes against them

    August 9, 2014 at 2:19 pm | Reply
  19. PJ

    The Kurds are the most "normal" group in Iraq and should be given independence. Of course they should be helped any way we can. The other two sects are crazy and could never be depended upon as allies. They are typical Moslems who hate everyone other than themselves.

    August 9, 2014 at 2:40 pm | Reply
  20. marc

    Funny how we think of helping them now (I'm not saying we shouldn't) but helped none whatsoever for decades while the brunt of them live in Turkey and fight for independence there.

    August 9, 2014 at 3:12 pm | Reply
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  21. trioofsixes

    I rarely find myself agreeing with this author, but I do right now. If we gave the Kurds half of what we give israel, they'd own the middle east in a month.

    August 9, 2014 at 3:19 pm | Reply
  22. Joey Isotta-Fraschini©

    A writer posted that we should not help by sending in troops, as that writer did not want any of our lives lost.
    You can say that, but if you do, then do not send your children into careers in the military services.

    August 9, 2014 at 3:54 pm | Reply
  23. Scott

    One of the few times I have agreed with anything, and in this instance, everything, Zakaria said. AT least in Syria, their people could flee to NATO ally Turkey. But here the Kurds are in an Oasis, really did not have a dog in this fight to start, but came out to fight for a united Iraq, and their sanctuary. They have constanly acknowledged their gratidtude, and never stepped toward trying to declare Independence. Accepting their autonomy. Now, they are helping out the Iraqi government. Crushing ISIS just might be what unites Iraq.

    August 9, 2014 at 4:00 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini

      Wrong, Scott. By keeping Iraq united, we ourselves are actually aggravating the situation over there. The sooner we realize this, the better!

      August 9, 2014 at 4:50 pm | Reply
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini©

        Ah, @ My Troll, please remember how seldom I use an exclamation point.

        August 9, 2014 at 5:59 pm |
  24. clemont

    The President had no choice. Make Kurdistan a "no attack" region–enforced by U.S. air power. Let this region prosper and establish itself as the one peaceful part of Iraq. Then use the Kurd's military to do the ground work needed to expand the functioning areas with the help of Sunnis or Shiites who want to live in peace. Together they can take care of ISIS. But this wouldn't be possible if the Kurdish region was to fall to ISIS. That's why Obama made the right call to use force in this instance.

    August 9, 2014 at 5:06 pm | Reply
  25. larry

    This was completely avoidable. 0bama, from a position of strength, could have forced a status of force agreement in Iraq. But, didn't. His failure to do so and then failing to act early on with ISIS has created a large mess to clean up. I understand he didn't agree with the war. Fair enough but, he was responsible for a clear, clean transfer and he failed. He was advised of the possibilities should his actions failed and proceeded anyway. So, this is on him. It only remains to be seen if he is smart enough to fix what he broke or not.

    Zakaria has some stones. Cheering Obama, when he pulled out early and now cheering him when he goes back in. With friends like him 0bama is smoke.

    August 9, 2014 at 5:15 pm | Reply
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    August 9, 2014 at 5:32 pm | Reply
  27. deniz boro

    Since I've been commenting on these forums I felt the responsibiity to look at things from a different pespectives before I COMMENT. Wel the other side of the view thought me to do so. Here, I found a ground where çivil people can express and share their ideas...Without restrictions and directing. However, that is not what is happening on the top of the World. It is rather sickening and bloody.So about the Kurds...I am !/4th Kurd. I've been to Diyarbakır and Urfa. I've been in that effort o Turkey to take a decent ife there. The next bit may not be acceptable.

    August 9, 2014 at 7:25 pm | Reply
  28. deniz boro

    Turkey is in between 3 rather strong conflicting parties. There is always America (The Country of the World) And Russis-Just up the Back Sea from us. They do have their somewhat material or otherwise gibirish between them. Than there is the Oil-rich (WOW) Midde-East on our Southeastern border. DO I HAVE TO SAY MORE. But I am sick and tired of it.

    August 9, 2014 at 7:33 pm | Reply
  29. deniz boro

    15 years ago

    August 9, 2014 at 7:38 pm | Reply
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