October 21st, 2014
04:39 PM ET

How big a threat does ISIS pose?

Watch "Fareed Zakaria GPS," Sundays at 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. ET on CNN

Fareed speaks with Admiral James Stavridis, former supreme allied commander at NATO and author of The Accidental Admiral, and Daniel Benjamin, a former coordinator for counterterrorism at the State Department and now director of The Dickey Center for International Understanding, about the threat posed by ISIS. Watch the video for the full interview.

Jim, it does feel like they've got their hands full, ISIS that is, between Iraq and Syria and all the forces that are battling them.

Stavridis: I think that this is a kind of a short-term/long-term set of constraints for us.

In the short-term, I completely agree, they've got their hands full. They've got Peshmerga coming from the north, they've got Iraqi security from the south, they've got bombing in the west. They're very busy. They're going to be in the middle of a three-front war very soon.

Long-term, there's not only, as Dan mentioned, I think ultimately the threat to the homeland – they have said they intend to fly the black flag of ISIS over the White House, I don't know how more direct they can be. But it is long-term.

You said, though, “it’s only a matter of time before a wave of EU-passport-bearing jihadists will be headed back home to wreak havoc.” So that sounds…

Stavridis: It's a matter of time. How long will that be? I don't know. Will it be different with individuals, different countries, different cultures? Absolutely. But that threat is building. It's a looming tower, as one person said about 9/11 a few years back.

Dan, one of the things they seem to be doing is goading the United States and the West. Presumably that is the point of these executions? That is the point of talking about raising the black flag. How seriously should we take this? People say one should have read Mein Kampf to understand Hitler's aims. So when they say all this stuff, how seriously do you take it?

Benjamin: Well, there's no question that they're no great fans of the United States, Fareed. I think that they were surprised a bit by the reaction to the decapitations. I think they probably miscalculated there. I think it's also important to calculate in here how much their presentation of themselves as hating the West, as being violently anti-American, is really aimed at selling themselves to potential recruits.


They’ve gone out of their way to prove that they are the most brutal group anyone has seen. And this has really worked for them. It's attracted an awful lot of people to their cause.

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  1. Blue Saffron

    In my book ISIS poses no threat. NONE.
    We have met the enemy and it is us.

    October 22, 2014 at 2:58 pm | Reply
    • Sky High

      Absolutely no threat at all. 10/4 on that boss.

      October 22, 2014 at 3:07 pm | Reply
  2. Blue Saffron

    Fareed has become a jihadist for CNN. A crusader of sorts. A mouthpiece of RAW. A journalistic janitor for CIA. "I looked in his eyes and I saw no soul." Tony Blair.

    October 22, 2014 at 3:03 pm | Reply
    • Sky High

      Soul? C'mon Tony. Fareed has no conscience. He is a disgrace.

      October 22, 2014 at 3:08 pm | Reply
  3. chri§§y

    @Blue Saffron you can take me anytime. I am done with the other bums with no money.
    You my suggah man.

    October 22, 2014 at 3:16 pm | Reply
    • Blue Saffron

      Awwwww.... chrissy. God just kissed me.
      Dinner tomorrow night? Got a great bottle of Cannubi '86!

      October 22, 2014 at 3:21 pm | Reply
      • chr§§y

        You are on, Saffronie. Love the reds. Have a place in mind? I know a few kitchens.

        October 22, 2014 at 4:03 pm |
  4. j. von hettlingen

    There's an interesting article in the Washington Post on Denmark's experiment – Denmark tries a soft-handed approach to returned Islamist fighters http://wapo.st/1nwqWX2

    October 22, 2014 at 3:35 pm | Reply
    • Blue Saffron

      Meaning awarding them medals of honor. They are war heroes after all.

      October 22, 2014 at 3:46 pm | Reply
    • chr§§y

      Does every citizen in Denmark get a bouquet upon returning!? I mean what law have they broken. Has Denmark forgotten its Viking past? Barbarians. Klipfisk eaters.

      October 22, 2014 at 4:10 pm | Reply
  5. chri§§y

    MY last post here was @ 1:02. Nothing against you @ Blue Saffron but the person posting that crap is a male and a coward!

    October 22, 2014 at 4:07 pm | Reply
    • Blue Saffron

      Three s ome sounds cool to me. There is more Cannubis where this came from!

      October 22, 2014 at 4:20 pm | Reply
  6. Blue Saffron

    Canadian shooter in Ottawa was from India. This just in.

    October 22, 2014 at 4:26 pm | Reply
  7. chri§§y

    My/me @ chrissy??? What was that supposed to mean?

    October 22, 2014 at 4:33 pm | Reply
  8. chri§§y

    And MY name is NEVER in blue ya dork! You need to use your own name ya coward!

    October 22, 2014 at 4:35 pm | Reply
  9. chri§§y

    HOW did you post twice at the EXACT same time @ Joey lmao? Your troll is slipping up isnt he? Lol

    October 22, 2014 at 4:58 pm | Reply
  10. Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

    ISIS maybe the impetus we were looking for to solve the Palestinian and Jammu Kashmir genocides. ISIS seem to have tentacles. Wouldn't you say so @ chrissy?

    October 22, 2014 at 5:07 pm | Reply
  11. chri§§yy

    Al Qaeda has turned the world upside down. It will never be the same. Osama Bin Laden was a genius albeit labelled as a terrorist by U.S. Hero to many.

    October 22, 2014 at 5:16 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

      @ chrissy Troll,
      So what do you think of Hitler?

      October 22, 2014 at 5:21 pm | Reply
      • chri§§yy

        Ask Gandhi. His buddy. Both orchestrated the jewish holocaust. Gandhi later went on to carry out the moslem holocaust in 1947.

        October 22, 2014 at 5:28 pm |
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

        Thank you for a serious moment.

        October 22, 2014 at 5:33 pm |
  12. chri§§y

    Just as i would NEVER call the mastermind murderer of MY family members a "genius"! Spawn of satan more like it!

    October 22, 2014 at 5:33 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

      Reread and think, @ chrissy. I did not call anybody a genius.
      However, Hitler was a fine performer.

      October 22, 2014 at 5:37 pm | Reply
  13. chri§§y

    And @ my troll you sure have some spelling issues dont you? Cant even get my name right! And its "muslim" idiot!

    October 22, 2014 at 5:35 pm | Reply
  14. Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

    Would the primary troll tell us, honestly, where he lives? Jeff?
    I seem to have Kansas City in mind. Is that a correct memory?

    October 22, 2014 at 5:44 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©


      October 22, 2014 at 5:46 pm | Reply
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

        You know, one can always just make a black-line change and be nice.
        It's a lot more fun.

        October 22, 2014 at 5:57 pm |
    • banasy©

      One of his many personalities, RUFFNUTT, lived in KC, MO. Another lived in Washington State; still another, Wyoming. Yet another, Ohio.
      Born in the USA.

      October 22, 2014 at 5:56 pm | Reply
  15. Blue Saffron

    Seriously. Enough is enough. Cut this crap out. Can we have some intellectual decorum here. What's with you people. ADD? Verbal diarrhea? Absolutely childish.

    October 22, 2014 at 6:06 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

      oops...Your diaper's wet again.

      October 22, 2014 at 6:12 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Can one have verbal diarrhea on a text-driven forum?

      October 22, 2014 at 6:19 pm | Reply
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

        I don't believe that ADD exists: it's just the way schools work these days.

        October 22, 2014 at 6:24 pm |
      • banasy©

        That may be; it doesn't answer my question. Perhaps B.S. Can take time out of his busy schedule to answer.

        October 22, 2014 at 7:23 pm |
  16. Blue Saffron

    India was ruled by moslems for most of its history. The moslems gave India most of its culture, civilization, arts, science, music, architecture, culinary heritage and pulled it out of dark ages.
    Remember hindus are the b astard descendants of african black servants who were brought there by the rulers.

    October 22, 2014 at 6:34 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

      Please continue.

      October 22, 2014 at 6:43 pm | Reply
      • banasy©

        Continue what? Shoving his dickey up your sand monkey a zz? I diot.

        October 22, 2014 at 7:01 pm |
      • banasy©

        Of course I would never write that.

        October 22, 2014 at 7:20 pm |
      • banasy©

        Idiot you ARE me. Lol

        October 22, 2014 at 7:25 pm |
      • banasy©

        That is incorrect.

        October 22, 2014 at 7:27 pm |
      • banasy©

        That is correct. A zzhole.

        October 22, 2014 at 7:28 pm |
      • banasy©

        That is also incorrect. Please don't project.

        October 22, 2014 at 7:30 pm |
      • banasy©

        You can deny all you want. I will keep you showing the mirror.

        October 22, 2014 at 7:56 pm |
      • banasy©

        Oh, I don't think so. Nice effort, though.

        October 22, 2014 at 8:15 pm |
      • banasy©

        I saw the mirror. My ugly

        October 22, 2014 at 9:06 pm |
      • banasy©

        Having been forced to change my avatar due to an unsavory criminal finding himself vastly amusing in his abject self-delusion, 9:06 was not authored by me.
        Discerning people shall know the difference.

        October 22, 2014 at 10:09 pm |
  17. Haji Allah Baksh

    Hinduism cannot coexist peacefully with themselves or for that matter with moslems unless moslems are in power. The Mughal era is a case in point. Unless the Hindus are subjugated these problems will continue. Stirring trouble is hindu DNA. They are petty people with medieval society and values.

    October 22, 2014 at 6:54 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      So what do you propose? ISIS control of India?

      October 22, 2014 at 6:58 pm | Reply
      • banasy©

        Please post your thoughts under your own name and refrain from using mine.

        October 22, 2014 at 7:26 pm |
      • banasy©

        Shut up. ID rustler. Muther phucker

        October 22, 2014 at 7:28 pm |
      • banasy©

        Oh, I am not the one guilty of that childish endeavor.

        October 22, 2014 at 7:29 pm |
      • banasy©

        Oh yes you are compadre.

        October 22, 2014 at 7:51 pm |
      • banasy©

        No. I am not.

        October 22, 2014 at 8:17 pm |
  18. chri§§y

    Lol @ Joey i think you mistook my post. So maybe you should re read and think. Pay close attention to my trolls post and you will know WHAT i was referring to and it WASNT anything YOU said!!!!!

    October 22, 2014 at 7:06 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Is Joey boning you Chrissy?

      October 22, 2014 at 9:10 pm | Reply
      • banasy©

        Aren't you a clever, precocious little man?

        October 22, 2014 at 10:11 pm |
  19. chri§§y

    And you dont believe ADD exist its just how schools operate today?? Then why do 60 year olds have diagnosed Attention Deficit Disorder??? They havent been in school for an awfully long time.

    October 22, 2014 at 7:10 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      You have PMS?

      October 22, 2014 at 7:26 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      I didn't author the 7:26 post, either.

      October 22, 2014 at 7:36 pm | Reply
      • banasy©

        You did father the post too

        October 22, 2014 at 7:52 pm |
      • banasy©

        "You did father the post too"?


        October 22, 2014 at 8:19 pm |
      • banasy©

        Oooops I phucked myself

        October 22, 2014 at 9:05 pm |
      • banasy©

        That will be your only opportunity.

        October 22, 2014 at 10:12 pm |
  20. chri§§y

    Well @ banasy (the real one) his status is no longer severely mentally challenged he is now just plain retarded! And yes i detest that word but in THIS case it is the most appropriate one i can come up with!

    October 22, 2014 at 7:43 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Oh shut up bhitch. Go get laid. Didn't someone want to take you for noodles. Grab it. Bags.

      October 22, 2014 at 7:53 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Apparently, Chrissy, he has grown bored with the topic of India.

      October 22, 2014 at 8:21 pm | Reply
  21. chri§§y

    And i think NASA should devote some time in determining WHICH planet he fell from....and send his sorry dupa back there!!! Oh and put up a shield so this can never occur again!

    October 22, 2014 at 7:47 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Forget about NASA. No way ya gonna get laid in space.

      October 22, 2014 at 7:54 pm | Reply
  22. chri§§y

    True forget about NASA you dirtbag! We will just wait and see how long it takes NSA to do something about your sorry dupa!

    October 22, 2014 at 7:59 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      You da bhitch who wanted to run off to ISIS. HS will nail your skinny b hutt soon.

      October 22, 2014 at 8:02 pm | Reply
  23. chri§§y

    True forget about NASA you dirtbag! We will just wait and see how long it takes NSA to do something about your sorry dupa! Because you ARE a menace to society!

    October 22, 2014 at 8:00 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Ya frighhin Mata Hari. NSA will nail your k unt to the Capital Rotunda.

      October 22, 2014 at 8:04 pm | Reply
  24. chri§§y

    You DO talk alot of crap dont you! I guess that may make you funny to people with IQs of 75. Or an average 3rd grader. But....there are NO 3rd graders here so maybe you should stick to watching the Disney channel. Buh bye now!

    October 22, 2014 at 8:15 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      POS can't carry on a debate. Juvenile. Phuck off. Go get rayped by a pundit.

      October 22, 2014 at 8:26 pm | Reply
      • banasy©

        You are absurd.

        October 22, 2014 at 8:32 pm |
      • j. von hettlingen

        You are a sicko. Get a life.

        October 22, 2014 at 8:38 pm |
  25. j. von hettlingen

    j. von hettlingen

    October 22, 2014 at 8:30 pm | Reply
    • j. von hettlingen

      I approve this message.

      For me it is the revelation that India is the epicenter of all terrorism in region triggered by preachings of Hinduism.

      : millions have been killed in Indian Occupied Kashmir

      : thousands have been massacred in Gujarat

      : assam continues to be a slaughterhouse

      : bengalis are being rhaped to a pulp

      That about sums it up re: India

      October 22, 2014 at 8:37 pm | Reply
  26. chri§§y

    They did an article about him on the Tech section of the homepage @ banasy! Lol

    October 22, 2014 at 8:32 pm | Reply
    • j. von hettlingen

      You need to go see a psycho analyst. Or a dikologist. You may need a sax change.

      October 22, 2014 at 8:41 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      I saw that, Chrissy. I will also wager that he would deny exhibiting that behavior.

      October 22, 2014 at 8:41 pm | Reply
      • Maula Jatt

        Yeri maa di phudee wich chrissy da lund

        October 22, 2014 at 8:52 pm |
      • banasy©

        Do please read that article and have just a moment of self-awareness.

        October 22, 2014 at 10:15 pm |
    • banasy©

      Chrissy why does your a zz pucker up always

      October 22, 2014 at 9:04 pm | Reply
  27. Blue Diamond

    These hindu trolls have no contribution to this world. Just a burden on global resources. Eating away the chappatis sent to them as aid by the western countries. Worth more dead than alive on the organ market

    October 22, 2014 at 8:44 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Agreed. Cheap bast@rds

      October 22, 2014 at 9:00 pm | Reply
  28. Blue Diamond

    Hindus and their gods wrote the book and the Standard Operating Procedures on terrorism::;:::

    Lord Shiva is god of destruction in Hinduism. He is a head chopper in chief of India. He even chopped his son Ganesha's head. He is the fabric of Hindu culture

    Chopping heads off and stuffing bodies in wells is the hallmark of hindu culture and form of terrorism that has been in existence for centuries . That is why the entire region is reeling in terrorism for so long. The world needs to address the terrorism emanating from India

    October 22, 2014 at 8:46 pm | Reply
  29. Maula Jatt

    Modi Ji jaag binaa dudh nai jamda
    paave laal hove karh karh ke
    ganga giyaan gal mukdi naain
    paave sou sou gaute khaaiy
    Modi Ji di maan di p hudee wich mulla
    Modi Ji ki beevee di kus wich lulla
    Taan gal fer vee mukde nahin

    October 22, 2014 at 8:50 pm | Reply
  30. banasy©

    Hindus are busy scratching their balls and picking their nose while Chinese conquer their territories. Scratching their balls is second nature to Indian Hindus. They do it while bobbling their head side to side. They feel empowered during the scratching process and is akin to a dog taking a p iss against a lamp post

    October 22, 2014 at 9:09 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      I would never write such a grammatical, profane mess. Do please write your nonsense under the other 400 names you have already employed and leave decent people alone.

      October 22, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Reply
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