December 11th, 2014
10:36 PM ET

Why releasing the CIA torture report will make America stronger

By Fareed Zakaria

The United States made its share of mistakes during the Cold War. But because of a democratic system of contestation, transparency, checks and balances, many of them were exposed early. New administrations could shift policy without losing face. Course correction was routine. Despite the nostalgia that many mandarins have for an old Metternichian model, it is the big, raucous, contentious democracies — Britain and the United States — that have prevailed in the world, not Nazi Germany, imperial Japan or the Soviet Union.

“A case can be made . . . that secrecy is for losers,” the late senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan wrote in his 1998 book on the subject, adding, “Openness is now a singular, and singularly American, advantage.” Closed systems work badly. Open systems have the great advantage of getting feedback — criticism, commentary, audits, reports. The CIA claims that its programs after 9/11 worked very well and suggests that the best judge of this should be itself. The Senate report provides an alternative view with substantial evidence and argumentation. This debate will make the CIA better, not worse. And the revelations of the National Security Agency’s vast espionage will force it to refine its snooping to programs that are effective and justifiable.

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  1. Philip

    Clean shoes are worth more than dogs are, banutzi.

    December 12, 2014 at 3:16 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Use that as an excuse the next time you shoot a dog for pleasure, PEDophil.

      December 12, 2014 at 3:21 pm | Reply
      • rupert

        Go raipe someone in India. Leave us civilized people alone.

        December 12, 2014 at 4:04 pm |
      • banasy©

        You are about as far from civilized as it gets, what with your constant talk about rape.

        December 12, 2014 at 4:22 pm |
      • rupert

        S ukk my cok ya bizarre monkey from Benares.

        December 12, 2014 at 4:34 pm |
      • banasy©

        I know you thought that sounded sane in your head. It didn't translate well to the written word.

        December 12, 2014 at 6:38 pm |
      • Philip the Town Drunkard

        Not an excuse. A fact. A clean pair of shoes is worth more than a dog. A fact of life.

        December 13, 2014 at 12:11 am |
    • Hooch

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  2. rupert

    Bunch of immature buphoons

    December 12, 2014 at 4:02 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      It's spelled b u f f o o n, and it's apt as a descriptor for you.

      December 12, 2014 at 4:24 pm | Reply
      • rupert

        f ukkin i diot you are. Go raipe your momma in Bombay ya muther f ukkin apt buphoon. LMFAO. What a stoopid a zzhole. I think Shakespeare f ukked his mother or sumpin.LOL

        December 12, 2014 at 4:32 pm |
      • Phillip

        Hey banasy, yo mama got rhaiped by pundits.

        December 12, 2014 at 4:41 pm |
      • banasy©

        Aw, your little cursing is so cute! You must be Da Man in 7th grade.

        And rape fantasies about my mother? Ooooh. Puberty must be hell on you.

        December 12, 2014 at 6:42 pm |
  3. rupert

    The Freedom Fighters.


    1. National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB)

    2. United People's Democratic Solidarity (UPDS)

    3. Kamtapur Liberation Organisation (KLO)

    4. Bodo Liberation Tiger Force (BLTF)

    5. Dima Halim Daogah (DHD)

    6. Karbi National Volunteers (KNV)

    7. Rabha National Security Force (RNSF)

    8. Koch-Rajbongshi Liberation Organisation (KRLO)

    9. Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)

    10. Karbi People's Front (KPF)

    11. Tiwa National Revolutionary Force (TNRF)

    12. Bircha Commando Force (BCF)

    13. Bengali Tiger Force (BTF)

    14. Adivasi Security Force (ASF)

    15. All Assam Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (AAASS)

    16. Gorkha Tiger Force (GTF)

    17. Barak Valley Youth Liberation Front (BVYLF)

    18. United Liberation Front of Barak Valley

    19. United National Liberation Front (UNLF)

    20. People's Liberation Army (PLA)

    21. People's Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak (PREPAK)

    22. The above mentioned three groups now operate from a unified platform,

    23. the Manipur People's Liberation Front (MPLF)

    24. Kangleipak Communist Party (KCP)

    25. Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup (KYKL)

    26. Manipur Liberation Tiger Army (MLTA)

    27. Iripak Kanba Lup (IKL)

    28. People's Republican Army (PRA)

    29. Kangleipak Kanba Kanglup (KKK)

    30. Kangleipak Liberation Organisation (KLO)

    31. Revolutionary Joint Committee (RJC)

    32. National Socialist Council of Nagaland - Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM)

    33. People's United Liberation Front (PULF)

    34. Kuki National Army (KNA)

    35. Kuki Revolutionary Army (KRA)

    36. Kuki National Organisation (KNO)

    37. Kuki Independent Army (KIA)

    38. Kuki Defence Force (KDF)

    39. Kuki International Force (KIF)

    40. Kuki National Volunteers (KNV)

    41. Kuki Liberation Front (KLF)

    42. Kuki Security Force (KSF)

    43. Kuki Liberation Army (KLA)

    44. Kuki Revolutionary Front (KRF)

    45. United Kuki Liberation Front (UKLF)

    46. Hmar People's Convention (HPC)

    47. Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)

    48. Hmar Revolutionary Front (HRF)

    49. Zomi Revolutionary Army (ZRA)

    50. Zomi Revolutionary Volunteers (ZRV)

    51. Indigenous People's Revolutionary Alliance(IRPA)

    52. Kom Rem People's Convention (KRPC)

    53. Chin Kuki Revolutionary Front (CKRF)

    54. Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC)

    55. Achik National Volunteer Council (ANVC)

    56. People's Liberation Front of Meghalaya (PLF-M)

    57. Hajong United Liberation Army (HULA)

    58. National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Isak-Muivah) – NSCN(IM)

    59. National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Khaplang) – NSCN (K)

    60. Naga National Council (Adino) – NNC (Adino)

    61. Babbar Khalsa International (BKI)

    62. Khalistan Zindabad Force (KZF)

    63. International Sikh Youth Federation (ISYF)

    64. Khalistan Commando Force (KCF)

    65. All-India Sikh Students Federation (AISSF)

    66. Bhindala Tigers Force of Khalistan (BTFK)

    67. Khalistan Liberation Army (KLA)

    68. Khalistan Liberation Front (KLF)

    69. Khalistan Armed Force (KAF)

    70. Dashmesh Regiment

    71. Khalistan Liberation Organisation (KLO)

    72. Khalistan National Army (KNA)

    73. National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT)

    74. All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF)

    75. Tripura Liberation Organisation Front (TLOF)

    76. United Bengali Liberation Front (UBLF)

    77. Tripura Tribal Volunteer Force (TTVF)

    78. Tripura Armed Tribal Commando Force (TATCF)

    79. Tripura Tribal Democratic Force (TTDF)

    80. Tripura Tribal Youth Force (TTYF)

    81. Tripura Liberation Force (TLF)

    82. Tripura Defence Force (TDF)

    83. All Tripura Volunteer Force (ATVF)

    84. Tribal Commando Force (TCF)

    85. Tripura Tribal Youth Force (TTYF)

    86. All Tripura Bharat Suraksha Force (ATBSF)

    87. Tripura Tribal Action Committee Force (TTACF) Socialist Democratic

    88. Front of Tripura (SDFT)

    89. All Tripura National Force (ATNF)

    90. Tripura Tribal Sengkrak Force (TTSF)

    91. Tiger Commando Force (TCF)

    92. Tripura Mukti Police (TMP)

    93. Tripura Rajya Raksha Bahini (TRRB)

    94. Tripura State Volunteers (TSV)

    95. Tripura National Democratic Tribal Force (TNDTF)

    96. National Militia of Tripura (NMT)

    97. All Tripura Bengali Regiment (ATBR)

    98. Bangla Mukti Sena (BMS)

    99. All Tripura Liberation Organisation (ATLO)

    100. Tripura National Army (TNA)

    101. Tripura State Volunteers (TSV)

    102. Borok National Council of Tripura (BNCT)

    103. Mizoram

    104. Bru National Liberation Front

    105. Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)

    106. Arunachal Pradesh

    107. Arunachal Dragon Force (ADF)

    108. Left-wing Extremist groups

    109. People's Guerrilla Army

    110. People's War Group

    111. Maoist Communist Centre

    112. Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist)

    113. Communist Party of India (Marxist Leninist) Janashaktih

    114. Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT)

    December 12, 2014 at 4:03 pm | Reply
  4. rupert

    @banasy did you raype your muther today in accordance with Ramayana your holy hindoo book that christians use as toilet paper. Good boy

    December 12, 2014 at 4:36 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      OMG, you're hilarious!

      December 12, 2014 at 6:49 pm | Reply
  5. Phillip

    Not to worry @rupert, banasy got his a zz waterboarded by KKK. Hinddou a zz blackk one. The frikkin indian guy has BO of curry masala.

    December 12, 2014 at 4:44 pm | Reply
  6. Phillip

    Where are you hiding ya yeller belly turkey @banasy. Come on out of your hole and get an a zz whopping. Cokk sukker

    December 12, 2014 at 4:51 pm | Reply
  7. Philip the Town Drunkard

    Lol. The CIA moved to Denver CO: in order to track-down "al qaeda". Lmao. And you really think that.

    December 13, 2014 at 12:13 am | Reply
  8. Philip the Town Drunkard

    Clean shoes are worth more than a dog. Care to debate?

    December 13, 2014 at 12:17 am | Reply
  9. Philip the Town Drunkard

    At least I don't hide behind "alcoholic" excuse. Not to mention the AMA now refers to over eating as a"disease". Just like AA refers to over drinking as a "disease".

    December 13, 2014 at 12:22 am | Reply
  10. Philip the Town Drunkard

    Is over se xing a disease too?

    December 13, 2014 at 12:26 am | Reply
    • Philip the Town Drunkard

      Simple addictions are not complex diseases. (Duh). The majority of US voters are addicted to drugs, se x, violence, and/or food.
      Of course food and se x are natural. But in such huge amounts?

      December 13, 2014 at 12:29 am | Reply
  11. Philip the Town Drunkard

    Only fools let cats sleep near children. Cats are known to spread over a dozen real diseases to children.
    Save a cat. Sacrifice a child's health.
    You freaking cat lovers are stupid.

    December 13, 2014 at 12:33 am | Reply
  12. Philip the Town Drunkard

    That house cats are evil creatures planted in your homes can be discovered at
    Drugged Egyptians were the first creatures to invite cats into children's bedrooms, you know.

    December 13, 2014 at 12:39 am | Reply
  13. CIA update

    We water boarded OBL's many wives and children. The official version of 9/11 is pure Blue Saffron. Aka BS.

    December 13, 2014 at 12:47 am | Reply
  14. CIA update

    @banasy. Who really is Sibel D. Edmonds. And is she really the most federally gagged woman on earth? Google it and get back to me. Ty

    December 13, 2014 at 1:15 am | Reply
  15. Philrod

    I like shooting dogs. Eh heh. Eh heh. Just like in the twisted mind of banasy. Where cheating on Hillary is OK. If for my own personal cause.

    December 13, 2014 at 1:21 am | Reply
  16. Philrod

    Good night, cruel world. Banasy.

    December 13, 2014 at 1:25 am | Reply
  17. banasy

    Wake up Philip.

    December 13, 2014 at 8:53 am | Reply
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