January 18th, 2015
12:08 AM ET

Analyst: Muslim communities in Europe 'among most contented' of any minority

Fareed speaks with Doug Saunders, an international affairs columnist for 'The Globe and Mail' and the author of 'The Myth of the Muslim Tide: Do Immigrants Threaten the West?' about the question of whether there is widespread anger among Muslims in Europe. Watch the full interview on GPS this Sunday at 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. ET on CNN.

What about the general idea that these immigrants, that Muslim immigrants in Europe, are angry, that they are angry with the world, angry with the fact that the world isn't of their making, that the West is sort of the dominant power, that there is a kind of rage, a Muslim rage in Europe?

No. We do need to understand that there obviously are some people among that community who are very angry. The people who are committing anti-Semitic attacks and attacks on journalists and acts of terrorism – these are obviously individuals who are motivated by anger.

The question is, does that reflect the community around them? Is that born out of the community around them, or is that something that's imported, that's a foreign value that they've adopted as a political movement?

And what's interesting is that Muslim communities in Europe, despite being marginalized economically and educationally, tend to be among the most contented with their lives of any minority group, often more so than the general population. There's not a measurable level of discontentment with the society around them or with the lives they lead among Muslims in Europe compared to other groups. It simply isn't something that exists in the larger population.

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  1. chri§§y ¥ ¥ ¥ ¥

    Dude! I had to change my name with all these symbols because that j a c k a s s troll kept stealing it and posting the most horrible filth under it. The SAME troll thats posting the lists! And i liked that even less than whether YOU like my name!!! GOT IT!

    January 19, 2015 at 6:21 pm | Reply
  2. chri§§y ¥ ¥ ¥ ¥

    And Big Fat Furry Deal! You dont like my name...so what! I dont particularly likes yours either but then again im not using it! Dont read my posts. Doesnt hurt my feelings in the least! Buh bye now!

    January 19, 2015 at 6:32 pm | Reply
    • Yedi

      What is it with you people? Don't get so defensive. Chrissy is a wonderful name. It is how you have turned that name into a mutation. How could you!

      January 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm | Reply
  3. Yedi

    Very well Chrissy. Then what will you do when an imbecile troll uses the screen name Chri§§y ¥ ¥ ¥ ¥ ? Change your name again and again and again?

    January 19, 2015 at 8:21 pm | Reply
  4. Yedi

    No offense to poor inadequate Philip, but I don't care to turn into such a person. You know. The kind that you avoid at work and turn the corner in the hall so as to avoid an agonizing prolonged conversation. That would not be me.
    Farewell.

    January 19, 2015 at 8:47 pm | Reply
  5. chri§§y ¥ ¥ ¥ ¥

    Lol @ Yedi...i absolutely agree! And i changed it because the MOST FILTHIEST things were being posted under my name. Hateful disgusting things! I was trying to find SOMETHING he couldnt copy.

    January 19, 2015 at 9:23 pm | Reply
  6. RAP

    Other than the CN Tower, nothing identifies that Doug Sanders is in Toronto or that he works for a Canadian newspaper. I can't help but feel that this is because an American audience would accept it as an be expert opinion if its not coming from and American source. CNN seems to have gone out of its way not to fully reveal the source.

    January 20, 2015 at 1:48 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Easily Googled:

      Douglas "Doug" Richard Alan Saunders is a British‑Canadian journalist and author, and columnist for The Globe and Mail, a Canadian national newspaper based in Toronto, Canada.

      Not exactly secret.

      January 20, 2015 at 2:19 pm | Reply
  7. chri§§y ¥ ¥ ¥ ¥

    Lol conspiracy theories around every corner?

    January 20, 2015 at 2:26 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      I am not necessarily saying RAP is a conspiracy theorist, Chrissy; but Doug Saunders' credentials are easily verified.
      Plus, his face wasn't hidden.

      January 20, 2015 at 3:26 pm | Reply
  8. Philip

    Nazareth is the largest Arab city in Israel, with a population of 65,000, roughly 40,000 of whom are Muslim.

    January 21, 2015 at 6:52 pm | Reply
  9. Philip

    Eventually, it got so bad that the gate at Jerusalem's market place had to be narrowed so that fat greedy Jews rushing to the market for the best deals had to turn sideways and squeeze through the gate. So that so many pregnant women didn't get trampled on.
    "The eye of the needle" the narrowed gate was called. And gave way to a very famous illustration Christ made. That it would be easier for a camel to squeeze through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to be found pleasing in God's eyes. And so Jesus and his follwers remained poor. Fit and trim. But poor.

    January 21, 2015 at 7:48 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Compare and contrast what Jesus thought of pregnant women with what you think of pregnant women.

      January 25, 2015 at 6:33 pm | Reply
  10. chri§§y ¥ ¥ ¥ ¥

    Lol remember @ banasy...lunatics interpret things different than normal people!

    January 26, 2015 at 12:11 pm | Reply
  11. chri§§y

    Todays Quirky News: According to the National Chicken Council, 1.25 billion wings will be consumed on Super Bowl Sunday. Of course, those numbers may be deflated.

    January 27, 2015 at 7:09 pm | Reply
  12. chri§§y

    And going with the topic here i do have to agree. Of all my neighbors the muslim community does appear to be the most contented!

    January 27, 2015 at 7:51 pm | Reply
  13. Eddie Fonseca

    Amr Diab the famous Egyptian Muslim singer who's song El Leila has many different women from all races, from Muslim Arab women to Jewish women dancing in his video because he believes that love has no boundaries and that great music and several glass of red wine bring people from all races together. This notation that young Muslim men and women in Europe and America have a strong hatred for the West, is a misguided stereotypical viewpoint that does not reflect the average Muslim men women who stand against terrorism and spilling innocent blood from all races. Being an American who has traveled to the different parts of the Middle East and Israel also Turkey as well, I have talked with young educated college and university educated men and women while sitting in local café having a cup of coffee and talking about the stereotypical viewpoints of the Muslim culture in the Middle East. Most European Muslims have no hatred for the West, when they talk to me about how some western policy's that do not agree with but they are not going to spill blood over the matter they just keep their opinions to themselves and carry on in life. As Americans we know the trust level between the Muslim community's in our homeland and in Europe need's work, but there has been progress after September 11 after the terrorists attacks that all Americans and European Muslims agree on, that terrorism ideology and terrorists should be stopped at all costs in America and across the world for years to come.

    February 10, 2015 at 11:39 pm | Reply
    • Marco

      As a European, I do not care much about what non-European Muslim "immigrants" think. I am only thinking on their effect on European countries has been. We never needed them, we never wanted them. Foreign Aid funds should be used to help them go back to Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Syria, Pakistan, North Africa etc.

      And the people should decide by a referendum

      February 21, 2015 at 9:07 pm | Reply
  14. chri§§y

    @ Eddie, spot on! Thank you! I too live within a few blocks of the largest muslim community in the US and what you just said is quite true! But as we all know there are a great many stupid people in our country that would blame a whole race or religion for the acts of a small number extremeists! They need to educate themselves more on the subject!

    February 13, 2015 at 12:05 am | Reply
  15. Marco

    Canadian journalist in Toronto as to what millions of unneeded, unwanted, non-European Muslim settlers in Europe are all about.

    We Europeans should be given the right, by way of referendum, as to what to do about people coming to our lands. Not Canadian journalists, nor American Oligarchic, not-so-diverse media owners and certainly not politicians.

    February 21, 2015 at 9:15 pm | Reply
  16. chri§§y

    I can agree with that also @ Marco! Politicians of every country are becomming a tad bit egotistical on what they percieve to be their abilities to rule. And ALL citizens in EVERY country should be given the right to vote on the very things that affect them the most!

    February 23, 2015 at 5:59 pm | Reply
  17. banasy©

    Ya made it, babe! Knew you would. : )

    February 23, 2015 at 6:27 pm | Reply
  18. chri§§y

    Lmao cept this isnt TWO doors down!

    February 23, 2015 at 10:16 pm | Reply
  19. chri§§y

    Nor THREE! Lmao you threw me for awhile. I thought you meant fr6 where we were presently. So actually i only just realised a bit ago. Lol

    February 23, 2015 at 10:19 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Three doors down from the top. Third story.

      February 24, 2015 at 10:45 am | Reply
  20. chri§§y

    Ive been having blonde moments all damn day! Lol.

    February 23, 2015 at 10:56 pm | Reply
  21. chri§§y

    Speaking of egotrippin politicians...W T F is up with those congressional clowns? Now they cant pass a stinking budget for homeland security? They certainly have no problem picking "time off" or raises for theirselves! Grade school kids figure out how to spend a $5 a week allowance than these idiots! Oh and of course....just to assure they get their next 15 mins of fame they wait until there is a (supposed) threat on our country to pull these juvenile games! Idiots, all of them!

    February 23, 2015 at 11:51 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      They'll have to close all of those DHS camps that currently don't exist.

      February 24, 2015 at 10:47 am | Reply
  22. chri§§y

    And i said "supposed" threat not because i dont believe it but because it hasnt been confirmed. ISIS or DAESH as they now hate most, really is having a hard time making up their minds WHAT it is they are fighting for IMHO! Ive been reading all these articles about them and they conflict with each other quite a bit. Come to think of it, THEY act alot like our congress! Hmmm is there a connection maybe?? Lol

    February 23, 2015 at 11:59 pm | Reply
  23. chri§§y

    On my 11:51 post i meant.... allowance "better" than these idiots

    February 24, 2015 at 12:36 am | Reply
  24. chri§§y

    Lmao @ banasy...as you see i finally figured that out. Im at that cardio specialist right now and hes gonna try some different medication b4 he considers surgery! Thank God!

    February 24, 2015 at 12:15 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      I pray it goes well for you. Surgery should be the last option!

      February 24, 2015 at 2:16 pm | Reply
  25. chri§§y

    Isnt that just ridiculous about the budget? How damn far are these idiots gonna go to prove their spitefulness??? I mean seriously? Are they willing to jeopardise the whole country because theyre still throwing tantrums about WHO we voted in for POTUS? Get over it already ya lil snot nosed brats!

    February 24, 2015 at 12:20 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Are they willing to jeopardise the whole country because theyre still throwing tantrums about WHO we voted in for POTUS?

      Yes.

      February 24, 2015 at 2:18 pm | Reply
  26. chri§§y

    Lol ikr? Freakin brats!

    February 24, 2015 at 2:27 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      If they don't fund DHS, it will be going against one of the very tenets of the Republican Party: yeehaw pro-defense!!

      Pretty funny that it's all over immigration, when, um, DHS is responsible for guarding the borders...derp.

      February 24, 2015 at 8:26 pm | Reply
  27. chri§§y

    Lol that "grand ole party" is truly on a destroy theirselves mission...and at a very fast pace it appears! Proving once again...having brains isnt a requirement to becoming a congress clown! SOS every last one of them!

    February 24, 2015 at 10:48 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Career politicians tend to not have their constituent's best interests at heart. And that goes for both major parties.

      February 25, 2015 at 1:06 pm | Reply
  28. chri§§y

    So very true! And why should they. Theyre set for life!

    February 25, 2015 at 3:17 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      As they cut funds for the poor. As they enjoy the perks they'd deny everyone else. Oligarchy at its finest.

      It's not the POTUS we need to worry about, here.

      February 25, 2015 at 4:54 pm | Reply
  29. chri§§y

    Precisely! We need to fire the whole freakin bunch of them!

    February 25, 2015 at 7:10 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      It's as if they want to see how far they can push Americans before they revolt. I, for one, do not care to see a civil war. Especially since civility doesn't enter into the equation...

      February 25, 2015 at 7:49 pm | Reply
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