May 29th, 2011
01:59 PM ET

Fareed's Take: Netanyahu doesn't want a deal

We've just gone through an arcane debate about whether Barack Obama said anything new when he called for an Israeli-Palestinian settlement based on 1967 borders with mutually agreed upon land swaps. In fact, that has been the working assumption of all negotiating parties - America, Israel and the Palestinian Authority - for over 20 years. It is what the Camp David talks of 2000 were based on; it's what former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's talks with the Palestinians was based on.

The newsworthy and real shift in U.S. policy was President Obama publicly condemning the Palestinian strategy to seek recognition as a state from the U.N. General Assembly in September.

Instead of thanking Obama for this, Prime Minister Netanyahu chose to stage, in the words of the former Israeli diplomat Alon Pinkas, "Nothing less than a bizarre tirade at the White House on Friday, educating the president about the plight and the pogroms of Jews throughout history."

So why did Netanyahu do this? Does it help Israel's security or strengthen it otherwise to stoke tensions with its strongest ally and largest benefactor, Washington? Does such behavior further the resolution of Israel's problems?

No, but it helps Netanyahu stir up support at home and maintain his fragile coalition.

The real revelation, which has been picked up by many in the Israeli press, is that it shows finally that Netanyahu simply doesn't want a deal. He always has a new objection, a new problem, a new delaying tactic because, at core, he has never believed that the Palestinians should have a state.

Here is the young Bibi, 33 years ago, at a forum in Cambridge, Massachusetts:

"I think the United States should oppose the creation of a Palestinian state for several reasons, the first one being that it is unjust to demand the creation of a 22nd Arab state and a second Palestinian state at the expense of the only Jewish state. There is no right to establish the second one on my doorstep, which will threaten my existence. There is no right whatsoever."

Prime Minister Netanyahu's references to the indefensible borders of 1967 last week also reveal him to be mired in a world that has really gone away. The chief threat to Israel today is not from a Palestinian army. Israel has the region's strongest economy and military by far, complete with an arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The chief threats to Israel are from new technologies - rockets and biological weapons - and from demography. Its physical existence is less in doubt than its democratic existence as it continues to rule millions of Palestinians who are entitled to neither a vote nor a country.

Ironically, the young Bibi understood that it was impossible to keep the Palestinians in such serf-like conditions forever. Listen to him advocating that Palestinians should be given citizenship, either in Jordan or in Israel:

"In the event that this negotiation process will continue, I am sure that what we're talking about is, in fact, eventual citizenship of some kind, either Jordanian or Israeli or in any other arrangement."

If the Palestinians were smart, they'd take Prime Minister Netanyahu up on that offer of citizenship in Israel, and then Bibi would wish he had been for a two-state solution all along.


soundoff (1,396 Responses)
  1. Fareedisamoron

    Why is this jerk playing clips from 15 years ago? i guess at cnn they believe politics don't change over a decade or two.

    May 31, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
  2. Pliny

    Mark mark mark....you really have to do better. For years and years now...soooo many others have been saying the same thing you attempt to put into words. That being..."if you disagree with anything that Israel does, you are an anti-semite". MARK....you have pages and pages and pages that you can go back to....and plagurize. So please, if you are going to foist that old-time-propaganda on us...do a better job at it.

    May 31, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • lex ochoa

      Mark made his POINT!! what part of what he wrote did you not understand pliny........

      May 31, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
  3. barrymillay

    Fareed Zakaria – pimping for Obama and Soros. A plant. A stooge. Bought and paid for by The One and Spooky Dude. This explains the fawning interview he had with his paymaster, George Soros, and his unwavering desire to bring about the downfall of Israel.

    May 31, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
  4. Kjell Bakke

    Neither side of this conflict wants resolution. Both sides revel in opportunities to poke each other in the eye and the political leadership on both sides lack the maturity to cease this tit-for-tat mentality. Frankly, I believe both sides actually enjoy this continuous conflict, despite their protestations otherwise. Each side points a finger of blame at the other, but then salivates in yet another opportunity to strike back. This perverse pleasure that both sides enjoy is the reason why this conflict will never end, and the reason why all countries of the world should walk away from both parites until they grow up.

    May 31, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
  5. sfchas

    Netanyahu is a hypocrite who tells tales of half truths. His own media knows this better then U.S. media and hopefully his people will finally vote him out.

    May 31, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
  6. Tony in Dallas

    Neyanyahu is the consumate politician. He give convincing speeches as to his support for peace and a Palestinian state, but his speeches are laced with "so long as its my definition of peace and statehood". He, from his address at the White House with President Abbas at his side and President Obama in the middle has been eloquent but even eloquence does not give validity to one's remarks. All Americans, Jewish and non-Jewish, should face the fact that Netanyahu has no desire for peace with the Palestinians nor does he in any way support a Palestinian state. He has total disregard for any peace agreements every negotiated with the Palestinians and blatantly violates them and ignores them. His words are worthless and should be totally disregarded. If the people of Israel want peace then thay should elect a candidate who is FOR a true peace with security. Hamas has gained its foothold in Gaza totally due to the actions directed by Netanyahu and well planned to achieve the desired result. If we in America can justify removal or Sadaam, Khadafi, Murabak and so many others, then we are nothing more that hypocrites when it comes to continuin g to support a despot like Natanyahu who hails from a "democratic country". We support and embrace democracies unless of course the choice of the people is not our choice. Case in point the Palestinians in Gaza elected Hamas candidates who were made popular by the policies of the Netanyaho Israel. The biggest problem is that Netanyahu hails from military hawks who desirce nothing more than the continuing repression of the Palestinian people in hopes of breaking their spirit. While I fully support Israels right to exist securely, I must likewaise support the Palestinians right to statehood. So long as Netanyahu and the likes of him control the Israeli government the will NEVER be peace and the region will be mired in war and death and destruction. Isn't is time we face the facts.

    May 31, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
  7. j

    Have any of you traveled to Europe lately? I was there 3 times last year. I hope America doesn't look that way in the next 20 years. Women covered up and treated like property, Religious intolerance, Entire families not working living off of the State. Spain is Bankrupt because of their socialist ideals but mainly because the Country has to support all the lazy Arabs who multiply like a plague. Wake up they will win the war, the Immans tell them to breed like Rabbits. Its a simple numbers game their will be more of them than us and then its Sharia law. What is a Moderate Muslim? their is nothing Moderate about Jihad ( THE LAST CHAPTER OF THE QUORAN, BTW THE MOST IMPORTANT CHAPTER. IT SUPRCEDES ALL THE OTHER ONES!)

    May 31, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
    • Amit-Atlanta-USA

      You are 100% correct.

      That's why a lot of Jews wants Israel to exchange all Arab (Muslim) population even if a peace treaty is not signed, to if at all Israel needs to preserve its Jewish character.

      Check this out.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrA_9SoCitk

      The growing threat from Israel's Arab population.
      http://www.jewishpolicycenter.org/113/the-threat-from-israels-arab-population

      Israel's Muslim population growing at nearly twice the rate for Jews & christians.
      http://pewforum.org/future-of-the-global-muslim-population-israel.aspx

      May 31, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
    • Tyrone, NY

      Dude your orthodox( code for true practicing) Jewish paper just ersaed Hillary out of a photo to not show women in power!!!!!!!! So your argument is hypercritical.

      May 31, 2011 at 5:13 pm |
  8. Peikovian

    Would any of you know where there's a print of "Triumph of the Will" in Arabic? Kampf=Jihad but there's so much more to it than that.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
  9. morris2196

    It seems to me that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is accorded much more attention than warranted. The behavior and rhetoric of the surrounding Arab countries, and that of many Muslims, would lead a person to think that establishing the state of Israel displaced literally hundreds of millions of Palestinians and Arabs. But when I examine the map, I see that Israel is a sliver of land compared to the surrounding Arab and Persian countries. Is a sliver too much to ask for?

    May 31, 2011 at 2:14 pm |
    • Peikovian

      Eurabia isn't too much to ask for. Ayaan Hirsi Ali demands a confrontational policy at the European level to meet the threat of radical Islam, and compares policies of non-confrontation to Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler.

      May 31, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
  10. AZLib

    Of course Israel does NOT want peace. If you have two neighbors who fight all the time. Then you start paying them LOTS of money to keep a peace. Of course there will never be peace!!!! Peace will mean an end of a reason to get money!!!! Israel has hurded the problem into two ghettos and has made life terrible as in a concentration camp. The world turns the other way and sends them money. Why in the world would they want peace???? If the US will cut funds (they should) then peace will happen over night.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
    • Peikovian

      Oil-rich nations built and maintain the camps, preventing the assimilation of these Arabs into the larger Arab world. It's their political game. Maybe AZ should be ceded back to Mexico?

      May 31, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
  11. Peikovian

    The choices are so clear that the only question is whether your evil, your insanity or your stupidity predominates. It's the only Trinity that some of you will ever know.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
  12. MC in TX

    I somewhat agree with Fareed's points here but not entirely. The shape of the 1967 borders is extremely impractical. Granted the Palestinians are not going to have any sort of large army but one could easily see a situation where a future Palestinian state is absorbed into Jordan or some other "Arab" state. The issue is not simply whether Israel can repel a row of tanks but how it deals with all the complexities of terrorism when you have irregular borders which are difficult to control.

    The sad reality is that the "two state solution", if it ever comes to fruition, will never be a long-term solution. Two states that see each other as mutual threats crowded into such a tiny space are unlikely to ever truly find peace and stability. Ultimately, one way or another, there is going to be only one state in that space. The fundamental difficulty is here is the desire to have a state with a specific "ethnic" identity. I'm not saying I object to the reasons that this was done here in the first place (I generally support those motives). But it is clear that until a means can be found to say that everybody who lives in the region can be an equal citizen, a solution to the problem will remain elusive.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
  13. Laura

    The world already tired from this conflict which must be resolved already. And the only way to resolve it is to create the Palestinian state. It’s enough brain washing, twisting, and delaying. Arrogance will not bring us to anywhere. Both sides must look at future not the past and count who more in blame are. Probably, the new generation of politicians must be involved who don’t have much baggage of hate and mistrust. But the problem must be resolved for the sake of Israel state also not only Palestine to avoid isolation of Israel in the world and prevent the case when even America can’t help them one day.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
  14. cbr

    Why Can't We All Just Get Along, "Rodney King", as the saying goes, those in power, dictate the terms, and if the shoe were on the other foot, it still would be the same. Yes, the Palestinians need a state, as there shared land became the state became Israel in 1947, but grounds won after the 67 warm and settlements built, then connected together"Land Grab", and more displaced people.... Two people, one land, as one was formed in 1947, one will have to be formed in the 21st century if they last that long...

    As it stands neither will give an inch, and all have a dog in this hunt. This is one sad situation for all parties.....

    May 31, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
  15. j

    Laura or any women responding in this blog, it must be great to live here in America or even in Israel were you can practice freedom of speech. Sharia law will not tolerate your lip. I agree let the Israelies do what ever they want without American constraint.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
  16. zoyclem

    Mr. Zakaria, you've acted as an advisor to the President. You can hardly be looked upon as an impartial observor.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
  17. sf

    Wow – if only one thing is clear it is that noone here is interested in looking something up. It is astounding that people can talk about Israel as getting sympathy. From Whom? The U.S.? Remember the entire world sympathizes with the Palestinians without any knowledge or information. Two (the most important fact) – Israel gains nothing from this situation or from the death of Palestinian civilians whether you hate or care about Israel that is just objective fact. Three, Jews and Israelis around the world assumed for years that there will be some form of Palestinian state – someone wrote that the territories will be surrounded by Israel!! this cannot be written by a person of any substance.
    Has anyone, particularly Zakaria or the president considered that this is the absolute most ridiculous time to be discussing this? there are massive uprisings in many Arab nations and everyone has a response EXCEPT Israel – maybe that should tell you something.
    Hate it or love it – when this started happening in the Arab world Obama's first call should have been to Israel – just for information – How many of you predicted Libya? well I knew not from genius but from simple history
    Zakaria writes on the Arab world 10 yrs from now – WELL 8 yrs ago he wrote about democracy (Iraq) requiring a separate judiciary! He's right but to suggest that such a thing was possible in Iraq is insanity.
    THE Palestinians will never be helped because it is THEIR "leadership" that does not want a solution – you should be smart enough to see why. BIBI was voted in due to how fed up the Israelis were- HERE is the difference: Israelis can vote and protest similar to other western nations- Palestinian people cannot – their leaders do not gain from a solution – Israel does – No matter where you stand –
    People tell Israel to do this and that because there is no percentage in telling the Arab world what to do. Its much easier to hate Israel – BUT DO NOT FOOL Yourself – there will ALWAYS be ARAB terrorism (1.2 billion people, over a dozen Arab nations and non-Arab/Muslims who support , train and act as terrorists.)
    A Jew and certainly an Israeli and an Arab can sympathize with both sides (after all this was all caused by everyone except the Jews and Arabs – but that would require actually reading a history book)
    Israel as a nation and the Palestinians as a people have something to gain from some change – Hamas and the PA do Not!
    Zakaria is wrong every time – Egypt is not and will not be FREE, there are over 200 million people affected by these uprisings – claiming that they are in the name of some democracy (and one that will help American interests) is foolhardy and proved wrong by recent and ancient history –
    Seriously, claiming that Israel gets all the sympathy or even such support in America – (no doubt the only support comes from America but boy it is not unconditional!) or that getting rid of Israel will stop Arab terrorism – even the Muslim world knows that is ridiculous
    Thinking that Arab leadership (whatever that is now) or the PA or Hamas gains anything from a deal is just silly – The Palestinians are suffering from their leadership and occupation – but don't ever think that the Israelis or the Palestinians are benefiting from this situation – I urge you to consider that we have nor does Zakaria have ANY IDEA WHATSOEVER of what is happening in each of these other nations –
    Stop glorifying the downtrodden rebels – those rebels were Osama 15 yeaers ago –
    The Palestinians will never wake up one day with a free functioning responsible society and neither the Israelis nor the Americans nor the world will be safe from Arab terrorism anytime soon. There is no solution just steps the Israeli governement tried and the Palestinian people have no say. That you can learn form the surrounding leadership being removed – these are not countries interested in separate judiciaries Mr. Zakaria!

    May 31, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
  18. Peikovian

    Several new nations were carved out of Greater Syria in the 20th Century. All have arbitrary borders based on negotiation. 300 million Arabs, 6 million non-Muslim Israelis. You think the Israelis want the kind of power-sharing arrangement that made Lebanon a debacle for 2 million Christians? The Christians were over 80% of Lebanon in the 1920s, no more than 50% today, a nation designed for civil war.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
  19. sf

    Wow – if only one thing is clear it is that noone here is interested in looking something up. It is astounding that people can talk about Israel as getting sympathy. From Whom? The U.S.? Remember the entire world sympathizes with the Palestinians without any knowledge or information. Two (the most important fact) – Israel gains nothing from this situation or from the death of Palestinian civilians whether you hate or care about Israel that is just objective fact. Three, Jews and Israelis around the world assumed for years that there will be some form of Palestinian state – someone wrote that the territories will be surrounded by Israel!! this cannot be written by a person of any substance.
    Has anyone, particularly Zakaria or the president considered that this is the absolute most ridiculous time to be discussing this? there are massive uprisings in many Arab nations and everyone has a response EXCEPT Israel – maybe that should tell you something.
    Hate it or love it – when this started happening in the Arab world Obama's first call should have been to Israel – just for information – How many of you predicted Libya? well I knew not from genius but from simple history
    Zakaria writes on the Arab world 10 yrs from now – WELL 8 yrs ago he wrote about democracy (Iraq) requiring a separate judiciary! He's right but to suggest that such a thing was possible in Iraq is insanity.
    THE Palestinians will never be helped because it is THEIR "leadership" that does not want a solution – you should be smart enough to see why. BIBI was voted in due to how fed up the Israelis were- HERE is the difference: Israelis can vote and protest similar to other western nations- Palestinian people cannot – their leaders do not gain from a solution – Israel does – No matter where you stand –
    People tell Israel to do this and that because there is no percentage in telling the Arab world what to do. Its much easier to hate Israel – BUT DO NOT FOOL Yourself – there will ALWAYS be ARAB terrorism (1.2 billion people, over a dozen Arab nations and non-Arab/Muslims who support , train and act as terrorists.)
    A Jew and certainly an Israeli and an Arab can sympathize with both sides (after all this was all caused by everyone except the Jews and Arabs – but that would require actually reading a history book)
    Israel as a nation and the Palestinians as a people have something to gain from some change – Hamas and the PA do Not!
    Zakaria is wrong every time – Egypt is not and will not be FREE, there are over 200 million people affected by these uprisings – claiming that they are in the name of some democracy (and one that will help American interests) is foolhardy and proved wrong by recent and ancient history –
    Seriously, claiming that Israel gets all the sympathy or even such support in America – (no doubt the only support comes from America but boy it is not unconditional!) or that getting rid of Israel will stop Arab terrorism – even the Muslim world knows that is ridiculous
    Thinking that Arab leadership (whatever that is now) or the PA or Hamas gains anything from a deal is just silly – The Palestinians are suffering from their leadership and occupation – but don't ever think that the Israelis or the Palestinians are benefiting from this situation – I urge you to consider that we have nor does Zakaria have ANY IDEA WHATSOEVER of what is happening in each of these other nations –
    Stop glorifying the downtrodden rebels – those rebels were Osama 15 yeaers ago –
    The Palestinians will never wake up one day with a free functioning responsible society and neither the Israelis nor the Americans nor the world will be safe from Arab terrorism anytime soon. – these are not countries interested in separate judiciaries Mr. Zakaria!

    May 31, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
  20. Johnny

    Cynthia McKinney talks about how AIPAC operates in Congress

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeVBa4lSscw

    May 31, 2011 at 3:08 pm |
    • Peikovian

      When you dated Cynthia, she was the man, wasn't she?

      May 31, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
  21. David

    Israel came into existence in 1948 because the ruling powers of the day decreed it, the Arabs being colonized people could not have been listened to. Israel came into existence because Christian Europeans had been killing Jews in the millions, certainly many more Jews than an any Arab muslims "animals" have ever killed. The Arabs have offered to make peace with Israel but obviously Likud thnks they can stall and create "facts on the ground" so that there is never a Palestinian state. When non Christian powers like China and India come to prominence, will the israeli idea survive? ruling over tens of millions of Arabs? Will Israel be around in 300 years.?

    May 31, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
    • ZeemanCarolina

      Excellent question, David. Let me add one more. If Israel is a democracy, or the ONLY democracy in the region as they proudly tell us, then let all the displaced Palestinans return home and then hold free and fair elections. Will Israel exist then? They want a democracy, but only for the Jews and then deny the very same rights for the Palestinians. That is NOT democracy, it is called Apartheid.

      May 31, 2011 at 3:52 pm |
      • Excelsior

        You proudly have a double standard, don't you? You demand of Israelis to admit into their territory millions of hostiles, but you give Palestinians and other Arabs a free pass when they demand that no Jew has a right to live in their countries. THAT is real apartheid, but you don't notice it, because doing so would contradict your agenda. The number of Jews who were expelled or fled from persecution in Arab countries in the wake of 1948 was about 825,000 – substantially more than the number of Palestinian refugees (about 700,000). They left behind land and property that was dozens of times larger than what the Palestinian refugees left behind. However, you certainly wouldn't rise your voice in favor of ANY compensation to the Jewish refugees. That would contradict your agenda.

        Your agenda is a pretty dirty thing, I must say.

        May 31, 2011 at 4:28 pm |
      • sfchas

        I think the latest "Arab Spring" has shown that the people of arab countries want democracy but democratic countries like the U.S. have propped up leaders to suppress these ideas because they were afraid they would not be able to control and bribe free thinking arabs and pose them as people who hate democracy.

        May 31, 2011 at 4:56 pm |
  22. ZeemanCarolina

    President Carter justly described Israel as an Apartheid, not a democracy. It will do everything to justify its unlawful policies to protect that status, just as white South Africa did for decades.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:44 pm |
    • DMB

      Zeeman, you couldn't be more wrong.
      Are there Israeli Arabs living in Israel that can vote? Yes, there are. Are they citizens of Israel? Yes they are. And if you ask them if they would like to live in any of the Arab countries living around them they would proudly say NO CHANCE IN HELL. Israel is a democratic country that gives full rights to it's citizens.

      Why aren't you criticizing the Arab countries who don't give rights to their people, who block the internet, shoot at them when they protest (like IRAN OR SYRIA) in case you didn't know Syria has been firing at their citizens with tanks because their people want a free country.

      Let me ask you, why did Israels have to be kicked out of their homes in Gaza? why could'nt the palestinian authority rule on them in Gaza? Why can't a Palestinian state contain Jews? I don't hear Israel saying that when there is a peace deal all of the arabs in Israel have to be kicked out of the country and move to Palestine?

      If the Jews in Gaza would have stayed in Gaza they would have been massacred under Palestinian rule.

      People sympathize with palestinians and the TERRORISTS because they are so to speak "oppressed" and it is this oppression that causes them to resort to barbaric acts. That is far from the truth. There is absolutely no justification for terrorism and for purposely trying to murder innocent civilians.

      The Israeli army could kill all of the palestinians if they wanted to , but they don't because they don't want to kill innocent civilians. They try to kill terrorists who use their own children as human shields. These terrorist put weapons depots next to schools – these are the individuals that Israel faces daily yet you are accusing Israel of wrong doing.

      Maybe you should read a little and educate yourself before you form an opinion.

      May 31, 2011 at 4:08 pm |
      • ZeemanCarolina

        What about all the Palestinians living in refugee camps? If you truly believe in democracy then allow ALL the palestinians to return to their homes and not use the denial of the right of return as a crutch to hold onto the Israeli nationhood. Give all Palestinians the same rights as you do, and then if they agree to live in Israel rather than Palestine then the world will agree with you.

        May 31, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
      • Peikovian

        Time for the Eastern Cherokee to come butchering their way back through the Carolinas.

        May 31, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
  23. ZeemanCarolina

    Does anyone see the irony in the Israeli policy? Israelis believe they have the right to the land because their ancestors lived there 3 thousand years ago, but at the same time one of their fundamental points of negotiations is the denial of the Right of Return to the Palestinians that were forced out by the jews just in the last few decades? Didn't Jesus say 'Do unto others what you want them to do to you'? Well, I guess jews don't believe in what Jesus said, so it does not matter.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:21 pm |
  24. MG21

    You just figure this out Mr. Zakaria

    May 31, 2011 at 4:25 pm |
  25. give me doughnuts

    Why would he want a deal? A "deal" means that Israel gives up land, and Hamas and the PA give up nothing. Their promises and cease fires have proven over and over to be nothing but lies and obfuscation.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:26 pm |
  26. viperz4

    Israel is an axis of evil, terrorist state. There isn't anything that complex. After Nazis drove them out of Europe, they occupied Palestine with the help of British and US governments and formed a "promise land". All of you who claim to have "visited Israel" in person, I dare you to spend three days in Gaza and go through the humiliating check posts and constant terror, poverty and backlash from Israeli forces on a daily basis. It is very easy to sit on our recliners inside our comfortable suburban homes and label these people as terrorist and radicals. What will we do if we were in their shoes? Easy to be an arrogant b* like Barbara who is calling them "muslim animals". I bet she is one of those who starts yelling if she has to wait 5 extra minutes in line at the Burger King waiting for her double whopper! Imagine waiting 3-4 hours every day just to walk three blocks to get groceries and milk for your kids!

    May 31, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • Lenni Lobel

      You're an idiot, and Islam is a cancer on the face of this planet.

      May 31, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
      • sfchas

        Lenni: You intelligence to deflect the statement shows who the idiot is!

        May 31, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
    • Peikovian

      sfchas: you?

      May 31, 2011 at 5:58 pm |
    • Excelsior

      viperz4, your indignation is misplaced. If Hamas didn't fire rockets into Israel on the daily basis, if instead it took care about the daily needs of the Gazans, the situation would have been much different. Israel has no alternative to beefing up security when facint

      viperz4, it definitely looks like your indignation is misplaced ON PURPOSE, judging by the first sentence of your post. That sentence makes you look as an antisemite, which you most certainly are.

      May 31, 2011 at 6:26 pm |
  27. DMB

    Wow, way to respond by not addressing any of the issues.

    Why aren't you protesting that the Americans should leave their homes and return the land to the Native Americans? Are the American's an occupying force? The native americans were there first, werent they?

    Why aren't you arguing about the more than half a million Jewish refugees that were kicked out of their homes when they lived in Arab countries only a few decades ago? Can they return home to these Arab countries? In case you didn't know Jews were kicked out of Morrocco, Syria, Egypt, Jordan, and Iraq and other Arab countries. Why aren't you fighting for a right of return for them?

    Again, go pick up a book and educate yourself instead of spewing baseless fiction.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
    • Lenni Lobel

      I know, these folks are pathetic

      May 31, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
  28. feckess

    If Israel is the most "economically successful" nation in its area why do we send it $4 billion a year while we cut teacherws salaries at home?

    Do I get a vote in the Knesset? Is Israel the 51st state?

    How much does the Israeli right wing (aka Bibi Netanhahu) have to insult our president to get make the American zionists happy?

    The constitution is clear, the president is to control foreign affairs exclusively, but pro-likud american politicians apparently have a loyalty higher than the US Constitution.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:32 pm |
  29. j

    Viper, why dont all the other 22 arab countries help you? Palestinians aren't allowed in other countries. Look at how they are treated in Egypt. Are you blind? Pass millions of condoms and bring down your over population explosion. You are a plague, devouring everything and giving nothing in return

    May 31, 2011 at 4:37 pm |
    • Tyrone, NY

      Only to be on the good side of the U.S. other than that it would be different. You see Egypt has opened it's border, and hopefully the rest of the region will follow.

      May 31, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
  30. Peikovian

    "We should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world." Adolph Hitler 1942 Nazis and Jihadis are a mutual-admiration society of lunatics and murderers.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:46 pm |
    • Peikovian

      Jihad, and it's little sidekick the Palestinian cause, have taken a few pages from their WW2 Nazi allies. The Germans tried to solve their Catholic/Protestant divide by agreeing that at least they were all Christians, and that false unity required attacking the Jews. The Arabs are trying to solve their Sunni/Shiite divide the same way. Police states are still the beneficiary of this delusion, and some of you need a police state, because you aren't individuals in any healthy meaning of that term.

      May 31, 2011 at 4:57 pm |
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