May 29th, 2011
01:59 PM ET

Fareed's Take: Netanyahu doesn't want a deal

We've just gone through an arcane debate about whether Barack Obama said anything new when he called for an Israeli-Palestinian settlement based on 1967 borders with mutually agreed upon land swaps. In fact, that has been the working assumption of all negotiating parties - America, Israel and the Palestinian Authority - for over 20 years. It is what the Camp David talks of 2000 were based on; it's what former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's talks with the Palestinians was based on.

The newsworthy and real shift in U.S. policy was President Obama publicly condemning the Palestinian strategy to seek recognition as a state from the U.N. General Assembly in September.

Instead of thanking Obama for this, Prime Minister Netanyahu chose to stage, in the words of the former Israeli diplomat Alon Pinkas, "Nothing less than a bizarre tirade at the White House on Friday, educating the president about the plight and the pogroms of Jews throughout history."

So why did Netanyahu do this? Does it help Israel's security or strengthen it otherwise to stoke tensions with its strongest ally and largest benefactor, Washington? Does such behavior further the resolution of Israel's problems?

No, but it helps Netanyahu stir up support at home and maintain his fragile coalition.

The real revelation, which has been picked up by many in the Israeli press, is that it shows finally that Netanyahu simply doesn't want a deal. He always has a new objection, a new problem, a new delaying tactic because, at core, he has never believed that the Palestinians should have a state.

Here is the young Bibi, 33 years ago, at a forum in Cambridge, Massachusetts:

"I think the United States should oppose the creation of a Palestinian state for several reasons, the first one being that it is unjust to demand the creation of a 22nd Arab state and a second Palestinian state at the expense of the only Jewish state. There is no right to establish the second one on my doorstep, which will threaten my existence. There is no right whatsoever."

Prime Minister Netanyahu's references to the indefensible borders of 1967 last week also reveal him to be mired in a world that has really gone away. The chief threat to Israel today is not from a Palestinian army. Israel has the region's strongest economy and military by far, complete with an arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The chief threats to Israel are from new technologies - rockets and biological weapons - and from demography. Its physical existence is less in doubt than its democratic existence as it continues to rule millions of Palestinians who are entitled to neither a vote nor a country.

Ironically, the young Bibi understood that it was impossible to keep the Palestinians in such serf-like conditions forever. Listen to him advocating that Palestinians should be given citizenship, either in Jordan or in Israel:

"In the event that this negotiation process will continue, I am sure that what we're talking about is, in fact, eventual citizenship of some kind, either Jordanian or Israeli or in any other arrangement."

If the Palestinians were smart, they'd take Prime Minister Netanyahu up on that offer of citizenship in Israel, and then Bibi would wish he had been for a two-state solution all along.


soundoff (1,396 Responses)
  1. Kweso

    I think the Palestinian strategy to seek their statehood through the UN is beginning to gahter strength. Even if the US were to veto it, the reality is that a majority of the UN membership have concluded it is time to let the Palestinian people decide their own fate. I'm not sure if Israel and the US will live out the sense of isolation that will prevail should the US veto that resolution. People like BiBi are political opportunist from the old zionist school of thought. They highjack a good idea and try to gain political capital by criticizing it. But the world is smarter now than the days of Begin or Sadat. There will be a Palestinian State and soon.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
    • Peikovian

      Clearly the only solution is for all Arabs to return to Arabia, and when that's done, the entire world population should return to Africa. This will involve a lot of people standing on each other's shoulders, but when the Earth's sea levels rise that will be a great benefit, unless the native cannibals chew their way through the first few levels.

      May 31, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
      • Peikovian

        This would be a convenience to most Arabs, because they don't have to travel far to Africa, and so many of them are already there, running the slave trade.

        May 31, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
  2. albus

    The words and the reasoning behind the words remain accurate today: Here is the young Bibi, 33 years ago, at a forum in Cambridge, Massachusetts:

    "I think the United States should oppose the creation of a Palestinian state for several reasons, the first one being that it is unjust to demand the creation of a 22nd Arab state and a second Palestinian state at the expense of the only Jewish state. There is no right to establish the second one on my doorstep, which will threaten my existence. There is no right whatsoever."

    May 31, 2011 at 5:15 pm |
    • sfchas

      I believe that is his belief and his actions back this belief so why go under the pretense of "peace and generosity" of a two state solution. Why drag this on for 60 years and who knows how much longer. he says he wants a partner for peace? It takes two. Why not tell the truth of what he really wants. He is a bigot and a hypocrite.

      May 31, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
      • Peikovian

        His self-defense is hypocrisy, and those trying to kill him are sincere. Interesting how the cosmos warps itself to suit you.

        May 31, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
      • sfchas

        He is a hypocrite for many reasons. He makes claims of self defense to the defenseless. He lies of peace when he has murdered and believes the palis should be pushed into jordan and egypt. He calls it a democratic state but he does not let the arabs vote, it currently is not a separate state it is only israel, so it is an apartheid state. He wants everything on his own terms and Bibi's "peace".

        May 31, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
      • Peikovian

        Where were you 1948-1967 when Gaza was in Egypt and the West bank was in Jordan? Anyone riot that Palestine was under occupation? Where were you in 1921 when Transjordan was removed from Palestine? Anyone riot that Palestine was being partitioned? Where were you in 1918 when the Ottoman Empire collapsed and the Turks gave up the territory of Greater Syria? Anyone riot when Lebanon and Palestine were created from it?

        The locals don't care what country they're in, as long as the dhimmi are treated worse. Pure bigotry.

        May 31, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
      • sfchas

        Not disputing the the history of ownership. Just stating the fact that Israel currently owns the land and will not allow all the indigenousness people to become citizens ans vote. It is an Apartheid state. Deflect all they may it is what it is.

        May 31, 2011 at 6:48 pm |
      • Peikovian

        If the locals are interchangeably Syrian, Lebanese or Jordanian, why do their Syrian, Lebanese and Jordanian relatives keep them in refugee camps?

        May 31, 2011 at 7:19 pm |
    • DMB

      This is to respond to albus.
      Wow, you found a statement that bibi said 33 years ago that disagrees with what he says now.

      Lets look at the statements that Hamas says NOW in their charter:
      In their charter it states that their will push all of the Jews into the sea (thereby eliminating them).
      I think that Israel should make peace with people that have every intention of killing them., ya that really makes a lot of sense.

      Also Mahmoud Abbas wrote a thesis claiming that the Holocaust didn't take place. albus did the holocaust take place? should the Palestinians have a president that denied the holocaust?

      so who should we criticize concerning past and present statements. again there are two sides to every story except it seems that people such as yourself only hear one side of it and don't have a clue of the other side.

      May 31, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
    • Peikovian

      In fact, if Israel is roughly the size of New Jersey, why would Arab refugees care if they lived 100 miles from where they started if they thought everywhere they went was "Palestine", "Jordan", or "Syria", by any name indistinguishable one from the another? They have oil-rich sympathizers, don't they? The problem is, they don't. They have the endless hatred of tribe against tribe and the dishonor of losing a war to Jews, to the dhimmi. So they rot in refugee camps other Arabs built for them, and they are used in endless warfare to keep the Arab world's mind off its own leaders.

      Where did Suha Arafat hide all that money, anyway?

      May 31, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
  3. amelia

    Fareed Zakaria. Biased much? The problem is not that Netanyahu doesn't want a deal it's that the deal he is required to make in order for peace is the completed destruction of the Jews. Sounds like old Fareed is a buddy of all the hate and desire for a total holocaust of the Jews. Anyone surprised?

    May 31, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  4. amelia

    Fareed Zakaria should not be allowed to comment on this subject at all since he is clearly so biased against Jews. It's absolutely ridiculous that all the muslims cry around about how people don't like them but they keep pushing for murder.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  5. Peikovian

    The difference between the Abrahamic religious based on their delusional response to a Genesis story, "The Binding of Isaac": the Jews regard this story as a lesson that God's faithful must be willing to sacrifice and be sacrifice for their religion. The Christians regard this story (and all other pre-Gospel stories) as a foreshadowing of Christ's sacrifice. The Muslims regard this story as the alternative reality of Ibrahim and Ishmael, and the Jews and the Christians are wrong as usual. The story is actually about a Bronze Age society eliminating what was once a tradition of child sacrifice to pagan Gods. The only version of the story that is in the world news is when Jihadists convince young men to die.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
  6. j

    Kweso, Please don't bring the all mighty UN into this. We as Americans should demand the removal of that corrupt institution. They are a JOKE, remember when a few years ago Lybia was in the human rights committee. We give them a massive amount of money. We need to kick them out ASAP. Please put the UN in a Arab country have them deal with Sharia Law hahahahaha. The kind loving peaceful muslims would welcome them with open arms

    May 31, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
    • sfchas

      And a few years before that when they created the state of Israel. I say we undo all their wrong doings.

      May 31, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
      • Peikovian

        You could distract them by performing oral sex all weekend. When they're too weak to attack, leave. The videos will be sold to fund proper funerals for young men who detonated themselves because of bad advice.

        May 31, 2011 at 6:14 pm |
  7. MCRTRUTH

    Learn the truth before you comment. Try reading and educating yourself...walloflies. org/ home

    May 31, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
  8. MCRTRUTH

    THE GREAT LIE...ISRAEL OCCUPIES ARAB PALESTINE...In fact, there never was an Arab state called “Palestine” and no one even claimed there was until well after the United Nations created Israel in 1948. The land on which Israel was created by the U.N. was also used by the colonial powers to create Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan. It was land that had belonged to Turkey for 400 years. The Turks are not “Palestinians” and are not even Arabs.

    There never was an Arab country called “Palestine” or inhabited by “Palestinians.” Before the creation of the Palestine Liberation Organization in 1964, which was sixteen years after the birth of Israel, no Arab political entity was called by that name.

    May 31, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
  9. Jorge

    israel belongs to the jews. I feel sorry for the palestinians, but unfortunally they descend from muslim arabic invaders who took israel FROM the jews by force many centuries ago, and just can't stand losing any land to the kuffar.I am with israel all along and agree its time for the palestinians to recognise that land belongs to their legitimate owners-israelis. Once again zakaria has a problem dealing with the facts and shows his stealth jihadist face.israel FEARS nothing. I guess now egypt will vote islamist and a new 6 day war will insue...go israel..GO!! SQUASH them all like rats.

    May 31, 2011 at 6:12 pm |
  10. FELTON

    Fareed, your a little late with this,,, your comments 8 days ago after the speech was so soft, what changed?
    http://www.askfmb.com/Newsfiles/fareednewposi.html

    Israel have been playing games for 44 years, it's not our responsibility to continue to support their failed leadership.

    May 31, 2011 at 6:34 pm |
  11. Notislam

    islam is the problem. The problem with islam is islam. Anyone supporting the pals should be committed. islam is vile and all moslems would do well to find a better path for themselves. In the meantime, pals should go back to Jordan.

    May 31, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
  12. Bob

    Fareed has it out for the Jews because he's a Muslim, plain and simple. They need to turn his show/articles into "Fareed's Fairy Tales" because he's 100% off the mark on this one. Let me suggest that all you sheeple take a dose of news from some alternate sources. Fox, CNN, MSNBC...good for weather, breaking news, but the world's worse for anything that requires critical thinking – both liberal and right wing...they are no good for channeling critical thought. The 1967 lines were NEVER a start for negotiation. Here are a few alternate opionions on the subject. Go to this link and read it. Then think and you'll realize that in Fareed's Fairy Tales he never mentions or cites references and solid proof of his argument. That's called Taquiyya. He's lying...real simple! Read on on me lads and lasses:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/05/obamas_revisionist_history.html

    May 31, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
  13. Deb

    Fareed Zakaria and also Tom Friedman are journalists. It is their job to report and not to create momentum for one side versus another. I dislike them both. They are so full of themselves.

    May 31, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
  14. j

    ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION ITS A THEOCRACY, STOP CALLING IT A RELIGION. IM JUST AMAZED AT THE WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY WEARING POTATO SACKS. I BET GLORIA STEINAM AND THE OTHER WOMEN THAT HAVE FOUGHT FOR WOMENS RIGHTS LOVE SHARIA LAW, HELL AS A GUY I MUST SAY THERE IS A CERTAIN JE NE SE QUOI ABOUT IT HAHAHAHAH

    May 31, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • grd

      We say: "Un je ne sais quoi" in French. hahahahahaha....
      Do you think Torah better?
      Did you see your Hassidic costumes how ridiculous? and their women look like they got cancer treatment?
      And at the top of that they never use soap? More neurotic than them doesn't exist?
      You see for a childish comment you get a childish answer.
      This is why this problem will never end.

      May 31, 2011 at 7:26 pm |
      • Peikovian

        In Vichy, French is the language of treason. France today is the spider in a web of Arab and African nations that shame the world.

        June 1, 2011 at 1:25 am |
  15. Bob

    I would hope the Federal Govt investigates Zakaria, he was interviewing this guy from the Arab league the other day and they were both smirking when talking about Hamas, I wouldn't want to find out years later.

    May 31, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
  16. Bob

    The Debt ceiling bill just passed to go up, we are offering free housing, health care, food stamps, welfare checks, if you are willing to make the effort to Not Work.

    May 31, 2011 at 7:26 pm |
    • grd

      Yep! thanks to all this money we're sending to Israel! hihihihihihihihihihi

      May 31, 2011 at 7:28 pm |
      • Peikovian

        There was also some spending in hillbilly counties. So don't you fret.

        June 1, 2011 at 1:23 am |
  17. Bob

    And here's another:
    Some moron on this site stated today that "being against Obama is racist". Let me help you oh CNN sheeple of the decade. The following IS racist:
    >Obama is an annoying n!gg3r.

    >The following is NOT racist: Obama is 3 times the man as Bush, hence now 3X the debt. Obama is 10X the man that Jimmy Carter, hence 10X the angry empowered Muslims. Hence, Obama is the WORST PRESIDENT THAT AMERICA HAS HAD. Not Racist.

    So you might believe none, one, or both of these facts. A moron would believe neither or one of these. An informed person might believe one of them. An informed bigot might believe both.

    Here's the next MSM lie debunked compliments of americanthinker.com:
    "Already the media are spreading the Big Lie that the GOP has a "weak field" of candidates, declared and undeclared. Like Rudy Giuliani, the best NYC mayor in the last half century and a heroic figure on 9/11/01. Or the four successful former governors of Alaska, Massachusetts, Alabama, and Minnesota. We have one accomplished black businessman, who looks, acts, and talks like a responsible adult, and two brave and articulate conservative women. Even with his flaws, Newt Gingrich was the most powerful GOP Speaker of the House in the last half century. This is a "weak field"?"

    May 31, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
  18. Bob

    more money goes to arabs, africans etc, but what I say is no federal funding for anyone.

    May 31, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
    • LG

      Bob, it isn't memorial day any longer so your pass has been revoked!

      You stated "more money goes to arabs, africans etc, but what I say is no federal funding for anyone."

      This is factually incorrect, Israel receives the most foreign aid of any single nation in the world from the good old USA. And all we get for it is incessant whining from the Israelis and Palestinians, not to mention that fat bastard BIBI coming to our country and insulting our president.

      Hey BIBI, Abbas and Hamas...NOBODY CARES ANYMORE. Why don't you idiots flip a coin to see who gets that dirt hovel you people are fighting over.

      USA, USA, USA, USA!

      May 31, 2011 at 7:41 pm |
      • Steph

        Oh my God my twin brother!

        May 31, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
      • Peikovian

        Yeah. You're like Chang and Eng Bunker.

        June 1, 2011 at 1:21 am |
  19. Bob

    Let the Saudis support the poor arabs and let Jordan take back the people from Gaza and West Bank

    May 31, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
  20. raja

    What ever you guys discuss or Palestine and Israel fight till this Earth get to its end peace would not come unless they trust each other. And for this one have to initiate first. Be the first in History.

    May 31, 2011 at 7:36 pm |
  21. Steph

    Hi, Bob, Notislam, j, Peikovian, Barbara,

    After 2 days, I just came back to check some comments.
    I can't believe it guys! 3days and you still here?
    I'm so sorry for you.
    No memorial day, no barbecue, no friends, no families....?
    Believe me, you'll not change the face of the world.
    Becareful! you're developing a cancer.

    May 31, 2011 at 7:40 pm |
  22. Bob

    Steph, the cancer of liberalism?

    May 31, 2011 at 7:44 pm |
    • Steph

      Cancer of liberalism? Again???
      You'll not change the world Bob.
      Take care of yourself, your family, your friends, the rest is pure history.
      You'll also not make history behind a computer. Unless you have nothing else to do.

      May 31, 2011 at 7:50 pm |
  23. hemipristis

    Zakaria can always be counted on to provide the viewpoint of the hard left.

    May 31, 2011 at 7:45 pm |
    • LG

      Actually, he sounds like a real AMERICAN to me. Why don't you move to Israel or Palestine, or whatever you bafoons call it these days, so that you can promote YOUR personal interests. AMERICANS don't want to be involved in your childish temper tantrums anymore.

      May 31, 2011 at 7:48 pm |
  24. JohnUtah

    The last thing that Israel wants is a legitimate Palestinian state. Anybody with half a brain knows that. So what do they want? What they want is for the Palestinian people to be holed up in a tight unlivable area with no economy, no jobs, no clean water and no dignity. They want to make the conditions so harsh they they finally surrender and either kill themselves or move out of the land, this is what they want!! Israel does not want peace, they do not want justice. They only want to make their bellies fat!!! Wake up o people, where is your sense of HUMANITY!!

    May 31, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
    • Peikovian

      There are several Palestinian states. Are you Rocky Mountain High?

      May 31, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • Michelle in Tallahassee

      Have you been drinking some of that water from the Great Salt Lake, cuz your mind is a bit confused.

      May 31, 2011 at 10:56 pm |
  25. Bob

    LG, in my opinion voting for John Mccain was the most American thing to do considering who he was up against

    May 31, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
    • Steph

      We saw what 8 years of republicans brought to this country and to the rest of the world.
      I know, you like republicans because they support your cause.

      May 31, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
  26. Bob

    A true American Hero who loved America lost the right to lead the americans who love this country and who don't want to live off the system

    May 31, 2011 at 7:52 pm |
    • LG

      Hey Bob, nice attempt at baiting me into a political debate. However, the topic of discussion on here is why AMERICANS should give a rat's ass about the dirt hovel (Palestine or Israel depending on which group of idiots you are talking to).

      And the answer is....we shouldn't. I will rip into anyone, OBAMA included, who attempts to subjugate his/her interests above the greatest nation the world has ever known.

      USA, USA, USA, USA!

      May 31, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
  27. Chuck

    "I’ve asked myself on many occasions: “When there are so many other countries in the world that do injustice both to their own people and to others, why does the Left focus so exclusively on Israel?”

    Mark,

    I don't know who "the Left" is, but I can tell you that people who oppose the Israeli position regarding the Palestinians also oppose many other unjust policies in nations other than Israel. It's a big world, nobody is focusing exclusively on Israel. Israel playing the victim is wearing thin.

    May 31, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
    • Peikovian

      There are plenty of refugees from Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia or the Khymer Rouge. They had a dream too. The Left can choose its favorite police state and condemn without a sense of irony.

      May 31, 2011 at 8:14 pm |
  28. max

    Everyone can opine all they want. Google Hamas Charter, read it, absorb it and then tell us who doesn't want to deal with who. It is simple. Islamic fundamentalism at it's purest. No, not Jewish here, a realist. Israel is in some deep doodoo, but if past history and future prophecy are correct, Israel is going to be OK. Sorry muslim-folk, it's just the way it is.

    May 31, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
    • LG

      No Max, we don't want to GOOGLE anything. We don't care if the Israelis or Palestinians are right, we just want to be left alone. Why don't you go to the dirt hovel (Palestine or Israel depending on which group of idiots you are talking to), and play he said she said until the end of time.

      Hey BIBI, HAMAS and ABBAS, AMERICANS DON"T CARE ANYMORE!

      May 31, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
  29. Daryl M

    The suggestion that Israel does not want a deal has got to be the stupidist thing I've ever heard. Israel has offered compromise after compromise to the Palestinians. It is they who do not want a deal. All they have to do to achieve peace is accept the right of Israel to exist and stop attacking Israelis, which they will never ever do.

    May 31, 2011 at 9:09 pm |
    • sfchas

      Have you seen a real map of what is the Palestinian territories? It looks more like connect the dots. Not really much to give if everything has been taken away.

      May 31, 2011 at 9:33 pm |
    • sfchas

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK9oyfLJa-s

      May 31, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
  30. Bob

    LG all this would make sense if we lived in the 1700's in this Global world we are in a Global Market. If the whole Middle east would get in the hands of Islamic Militants we would suffer greatly being that we would be isolated as to where we can get resources, having a secular Israel in the Middle east gives up a landing ground.

    May 31, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
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