May 29th, 2011
01:59 PM ET

Fareed's Take: Netanyahu doesn't want a deal

We've just gone through an arcane debate about whether Barack Obama said anything new when he called for an Israeli-Palestinian settlement based on 1967 borders with mutually agreed upon land swaps. In fact, that has been the working assumption of all negotiating parties - America, Israel and the Palestinian Authority - for over 20 years. It is what the Camp David talks of 2000 were based on; it's what former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's talks with the Palestinians was based on.

The newsworthy and real shift in U.S. policy was President Obama publicly condemning the Palestinian strategy to seek recognition as a state from the U.N. General Assembly in September.

Instead of thanking Obama for this, Prime Minister Netanyahu chose to stage, in the words of the former Israeli diplomat Alon Pinkas, "Nothing less than a bizarre tirade at the White House on Friday, educating the president about the plight and the pogroms of Jews throughout history."

So why did Netanyahu do this? Does it help Israel's security or strengthen it otherwise to stoke tensions with its strongest ally and largest benefactor, Washington? Does such behavior further the resolution of Israel's problems?

No, but it helps Netanyahu stir up support at home and maintain his fragile coalition.

The real revelation, which has been picked up by many in the Israeli press, is that it shows finally that Netanyahu simply doesn't want a deal. He always has a new objection, a new problem, a new delaying tactic because, at core, he has never believed that the Palestinians should have a state.

Here is the young Bibi, 33 years ago, at a forum in Cambridge, Massachusetts:

"I think the United States should oppose the creation of a Palestinian state for several reasons, the first one being that it is unjust to demand the creation of a 22nd Arab state and a second Palestinian state at the expense of the only Jewish state. There is no right to establish the second one on my doorstep, which will threaten my existence. There is no right whatsoever."

Prime Minister Netanyahu's references to the indefensible borders of 1967 last week also reveal him to be mired in a world that has really gone away. The chief threat to Israel today is not from a Palestinian army. Israel has the region's strongest economy and military by far, complete with an arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The chief threats to Israel are from new technologies - rockets and biological weapons - and from demography. Its physical existence is less in doubt than its democratic existence as it continues to rule millions of Palestinians who are entitled to neither a vote nor a country.

Ironically, the young Bibi understood that it was impossible to keep the Palestinians in such serf-like conditions forever. Listen to him advocating that Palestinians should be given citizenship, either in Jordan or in Israel:

"In the event that this negotiation process will continue, I am sure that what we're talking about is, in fact, eventual citizenship of some kind, either Jordanian or Israeli or in any other arrangement."

If the Palestinians were smart, they'd take Prime Minister Netanyahu up on that offer of citizenship in Israel, and then Bibi would wish he had been for a two-state solution all along.


soundoff (1,396 Responses)
  1. CBRP

    It just may be that Netanyahu is skeptical of peace with the Arab neighbors. Unfortunately, no one wants peace and no one has ever helped the Palestinians to relocate. Many have been living in camps with no attempt to help them to resettle. This should have been done forty years ago. There is land in that region that could be used to provide a state. The question is do the Arab nation want a Palestinian state near their borders.

    The whole idea of a peaceful solution is just not there. Both sides share some of the blame. Netanyahu has made statements in the past that might have been conceived as anti-peace. The Palestinians have made statements as well. Even when Israeli prime ministers attempted to negotiate peace plans something always happened to thwart the effort. People on both sides have suffered far too long. Lives have been lost and families divided. It is time to make peace and live in harmony.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:13 pm |
    • Mycology

      the arabs not only "haven't helped" in assisting palestinians, they have purposely kept them in camps and denied them aid and assistance. Perhaps this quote from a "palistinian" will help you understand,

      In 1977, PLO leader Zouhair Moukhsein (Zahir Muhsein in some translations) was interviewed by a Netherlands daily (Truv) (spelled Trouw in some translations) . Pay close attention to what he said:

      “There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation; creating a Palestinian state is a new means in the ongoing war with Israel for Arab unification, because realistically there is no difference between Palestinians and Syrians, Jordanians, or Lebanese. We speak of the existence of a Palestinian nation only for tactical and political purposes. It is in the Arab national interests to encourage a separate Palestinian identity in order to oppose Zionism. Tactically, Jordan – as a legitimate state with defined borders – cannot lay claim to Jaffa and Haifa. But I as a Palestinian can demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beersheba and Jerusalem…after we secure our rights in all of Palestine; we must without a moment’s delay, reunite Jordan and Palestine.”

      Three years earlier (1974), Syrian president Hafez Assad declared:

      “We must remind the Israeli government that we view Palestine not only as inseparable from the Arab Nation, but as a part of southern Syria.”

      As far back as 1956, the PLO’s first chairman, Achmed Shukeiri, declared at the United Nations that:
      “There is no such thing as Palestine, which is merely the southern part of greater Syria.”

      May 29, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
  2. Bob

    You are a lying Muzzie just like your "god", Mohammed. CNN should be embarrassed to publish this trash from your twisted brain. Ask the Christians being persecuted in your Muzzie hell holes across the Arab, Asian, and African worlds whether they are along the same lines of thinking as your deceptive taqqiyya purveying mouth is attempting to lead us. I hope Israel spanks the hell out of you sorry excuses for "warriors" that are muslims. You stink at everything: technology, science, innovation, war, and bathing. And wait...by bad...Israel WILL kick the crap out of you next engagement!!

    May 29, 2011 at 8:19 pm |
    • Mycology

      It saddens me greatly to think that in the next war, if Israel should win, that they might have to ethnically cleanse the arab immigrants and squatters known as "palistinians" back into their countries. I would have much preferred if peace could occur instead.

      Its hard to make peace with people who teach their babies as young as 4 years old to hate.

      May 29, 2011 at 8:28 pm |
  3. SilverHair

    Hitler didn't live long enough.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
  4. Allie Lark

    Fareed, I couldn't agree with you more. Bif is a fake. This man doesn't want 2 states. He talks out of both sides of his mouth, on one hand he wants a state for the Palestines then he turns around and list all of these conditions.All of which lead to delay delay.Meantime, Abbas is going around getting international support as well as that of the Arab spring and they are going to be declared a state by the UN before it is over.I suspect Turkey and Egypt will be thier cheerleaders.Bottom line Israel and the U.S. are going to be embrassed and isolated from the rest of the world community.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:25 pm |
    • Mycology

      bibi does want a two state solution, what he doesn't want is a -3- state solution,

      Jordan IS Palistine. Get over it. IF you want to "free palistine" , start with 80% of Palistine, which is now called JORDAN.

      May 29, 2011 at 8:28 pm |
  5. Dan harrigan

    If tomorrow the palestinians laid down their arms there would be peace in the Middeleast.If tomorrow the Israel laid down their arms there would be no Jewish state

    May 29, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
  6. Al

    No matter what anybody proposes both sides will be complaining. These people are not born to compromise and to tolerate, so I guess the only way is to be told and ordered. The only way for peace is a resolution from the UN with (Russia and China agreeing) forcing both sides to follow, otherwise bring those planes from Libya ( hopefully Gaddafi will be gone by then) and teach them a lesson, whoever doesn't comply. The main reason USA is hated in the world is for supporting Israel, so Mr. Netanyahu should show some more respect for the US president even he disagrees with him.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:27 pm |
    • Mycology

      The Jews have accepted peace, democracy, human rights, secularism, and rule of law within their society.

      The arabs... the muslims...

      well... can anyone find me a democratic free liberalized (as in liberty, not economic) secular islamic country that respects the rule of law, instead of Shari'a law?

      May 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm |
    • Alan Kamal Wood

      Yeah! Let's bomb them into tolerance. Brilliant!

      May 29, 2011 at 8:33 pm |
      • Mycology

        They will never tolerate, tolerance is not a part of their culture. Genocide is all they know, to "subjugate and subdue" as their Quran orders them to do to others, that is all they know.

        Its time to give them what they would give the world, if they had the chance.

        May 29, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
  7. Rick McDaniel

    In my view, the Palestinians have demonstrated time and again, over decades of time, that they have zero intention of making peace.

    You can't make peace by yourself.

    By the way.........the entire region was once the home of the Hebrew........before Islam. So who is kicking who.....out?

    May 29, 2011 at 8:28 pm |
    • Mycology

      Amen. Jews used to even live in Saudi Arabia, can you believe that?

      Jews and Christians were once the majority in many arab countries, until Islam spread by the sword.

      May 29, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
    • SayWhaaa!!

      If those jews were half as annoying as you, they deserved the sword HHAHAHAHAHHA

      May 30, 2011 at 12:25 am |
      • Peikovian

        Just one more twist of the strap-on and... there. You've got it all.

        June 2, 2011 at 3:01 am |
  8. paul johnson

    I am neither a Israeli, Jew,Palestinian or Arab, I am a American, so as far as I am concerned it ain't my problem. Why we are involved in a protracted war between two unrelenting factions who obviously cannot or will not come to a just conclusion to end this conflict is a mystery to me. Over the years we have spend Billions of our treasure and loss the lives of thousands our citizens protecting a ally who refuses to make peace,why? We sparked the anger and hatred of billions of people who feel we are bias in our defense of Israel to what end, how many more 9-1's will Americans endure before they say enough is enough and let the Israelis and Arabs decide their own fate. Israel should be aware that with our economy on the ropes and anger rising against politicians and goverment spending the billions we spend to support her is going to sooner or later become a issue that no amount of lobbying will be able to squelch and what then will she do

    May 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm |
  9. Brian McLaren

    Forced to get specific (Obama tricked him into it) Bibi made a speech which made his intentions crystal clear:

    What Bibi demands in return for "peace" is

    1. A permanent military occupation of the Jordan Valley (most of the West Bank). This is no different from when King George demanded that the American colonies tolerate "quartering of troops."

    2. Denying the nation of Palestine the right of self-defense: a right possessed by every sovereign nation.

    3. Denying the nation of Palestine the right to control it's own borders.

    4. Having Palestine surrender large areas of it's own legal territory.

    Also, 85% of the racially exclusive, Jews-only "settlements" are built on land that is legally owned by Arab residents of the West Bank. How will they be compensated?

    May 29, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
    • Mycology

      1. That is VERY different, stop making false equivalences. If Israel withdrew completely from the Jordan valley, the Fakestinians would import THOUSANDS of rockets and munitions, and would start launching them into Israel, as they did in Gaza when they pulled out.

      2. "Palistine" doesn't need any self defense, are you suggesting the Arabs are going to invade it? Of course not, they 'love" palistine, dont they? And If Israel is withdrawing , then they clearly are invading. So why do they need an army, who are they protecting themselves from?

      3. This is the same as #1. Until the "palistinians" have a mature government that is secular and not committed to Jihad, they cannot be trusted not to important thousands upon thousands of rockets intending to fire them at civilian areas of Israel.

      4. Wrong, "palistine" has no legal territory, because "Palistine" has never been a state, country, or nation. They are a recent invention.

      Also, perhaps you have no concept of ownership. If you RENT an apartment, you are not the OWNER of the apartment. Please, get an education. Although I doubt you'd make it past undergrad studies.

      May 29, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
      • Brian McLaren

        It is very common for people to say in defense of Israel's colonization of the West Bank "well, America did it to the Indians."

        When America did it in the 19th century, it was considered perfectly OK to invade, colonize and drive the native people off their land. It was done all the time and it was called colonialism, racism and ethnic cleansing.

        Back then slavery, racism, genocide and anti-semitism was considered perfectly OK. You could kill your slaves or torture them and it was perfectly legal - upheld by the Supreme Court. Back then there was no United Nations.

        Well, things have changed. Colonialism, land theft and racism are now not only considered "not cool" they are also outlawed by international law which is enforceable through things like the Nuremburg Trials.

        But that basic point is that Israel is doing to the Palestinians EXACTLY what the US did to native Americans and they are saying that what the US did to the native Americans was perfectly moral and ethical.

        They are also saying that what America did to the Indians was moral and ethical. People who say this are despicable and beneath contempt.

        May 29, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
      • Mycology

        Hypocrit,

        I bet you are rushing to defend the Sudanese right after posting these comments right. Or is the Arab Muslim genocide and colonization of Sudan somehow OK with you? China's genocide and occupation of Tibet? Turkey's genocide of armenians and kurds, and occupation of Cyprus?

        I hope you end up in Gaza one day.

        Maybe they can give you the Vittorio Arrigoni like you deserve.

        May 29, 2011 at 8:55 pm |
    • Alan Kamal Wood

      What do the Palestinians demand in return for peace?

      May 29, 2011 at 8:36 pm |
      • Mycology

        the arabs not only "haven't helped" in assisting palestinians, they have purposely kept them in concentration camps and denied them aid and assistance. Perhaps this quote from a "palistinian" will help you understand,

        In 1977, PLO leader Zouhair Moukhsein (Zahir Muhsein in some translations) was interviewed by a Netherlands daily (Truv) (spelled Trouw in some translations) . Pay close attention to what he said:

        “There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation; creating a Palestinian state is a new means in the ongoing war with Israel for Arab unification, because realistically there is no difference between Palestinians and Syrians, Jordanians, or Lebanese. We speak of the existence of a Palestinian nation only for tactical and political purposes. It is in the Arab national interests to encourage a separate Palestinian identity in order to oppose Zionism. Tactically, Jordan – as a legitimate state with defined borders – cannot lay claim to Jaffa and Haifa. But I as a Palestinian can demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beersheba and Jerusalem…after we secure our rights in all of Palestine; we must without a moment’s delay, reunite Jordan and Palestine.”

        Three years earlier (1974), Syrian president Hafez Assad declared:

        “We must remind the Israeli government that we view Palestine not only as inseparable from the Arab Nation, but as a part of southern Syria.”

        As far back as 1956, the PLO’s first chairman, Achmed Shukeiri, declared at the United Nations that:
        “There is no such thing as Palestine, which is merely the southern part of greater Syria.”

        May 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
      • Brian McLaren

        It is absurd to refer to it as a "peace" process. Israel is illegally occupying and colonizing the Palestinian Territories.

        Not a SINGLE NATION ON EARTH, including the United States, recognizes the Israeli Occupation and "settlements" (colonies) as legal. Israel is committing crimes against humanity by denying the basic human rights and legal rights of the native people. Ethnic cleansing is a despicable act.

        The Occupation of Palestine is a crime which will stain Judaism for all time.

        May 29, 2011 at 8:44 pm |
      • Mycology

        Brian, its very hypocritical that you want Israel to give "human rights" to people who are part of a culture arabs/ muslims who NEVER give human rights to themselves, much less to minorities of their countries.

        But i'm sure you're very glad you have a reason to consider Judaism "stained" for all time. I bet you weren't already looking for a reason to hate jews... yeah right.

        May 29, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
  10. Bobby

    The only way there would be peace is, if both sides became Atheists, or non religiously Spiritual.. Just imagine if they saw each other as human beings.. Wow, Miracles!

    May 29, 2011 at 8:32 pm |
    • Mycology

      The vast majority of Jews are secular, that means they support separation of "church and state", or synagogue and state in this case. Jews see muslims/ arabs as humans, they are simply getting frustrated with the arabs and muslims not doing the same for them.

      May 29, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
  11. gottabejokin

    Wow, spoken like a true Hamas spokesperson i must say. Its popular to bash Israel in the press worldwide yet turn blind eyes to so many other regimes that practice nothing but hardship and persecution on its own citizens, but thats the liberal way i guess.

    Now maybe Bibi doesnt want a deal, but who could blame him? What people like Obama and Fareed fail to realize is that the people around Israel including the P.A and Hamas want is nothing less than the death of Israel and the Jews period. They speak of their agenda on a daily basis but somehow the shiny/happy world thinkers simply take it as a joke. We were fed mainstream nonsense of the loving protestors in Egypt who wanted peace and democracy while the real news on the ground found on various Youtube and other unfiltered source vids showed even women chanting 'Death To Israel, Death To U.S' and 'Israel We R Coming 4 U'......so should Israel be expected to just ignore this and sing the 'kum-by-ya' nonsense Obama and the left hope 4? Hell No, thats why they elected a hardliner like Bibi who has kept the country as safe as possible from these animals.

    I often ignore the prejudice rhetoric directed at Fareed in the comments after his posts but when it comes to this story he sounds more like a hate preacher missing his beard than an unbiased and well paid CNN contributor.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
  12. ralk

    Why should Israel have to make any deals with the rag heads...they will be overthrown by someone else and then it means nothing...just like it will happen with Egypt.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
  13. Ray

    Will someone please explain why we the United States of America chose to support Israel. This is a country that has no strategic value (we don't use or need their air bases amongst other issues), no natural resources, it has attacked our navy and said it was a mistake, it has and continues to ask for the release of Jonathan Pollard who spied on the United States for Israel. I really don't care if he has spent more time incarcerated than what his sentence called for. Personally I take great offense that an"ally" spied on us, that son of a bitch should have been shot.This is the conduct of an ally? Israel would last all of three weeks if it did not have the umbrella of protection from the United States. They do not have a robust satellite program. We're backing the wrong horse.
    One other thing let us not forget that the Israelis used terror tactics against the British occupying forces in Palestine. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
    • Mycology

      1. Friendly fire accidents occur- When our own forces blew off Pat Tillman's head in afghanistan, it was an accident. And somehow you want forces that are NOT our own and NOT communicating every action they take with us, to somehow know where /what / why/ when / how American forces are doing in their section of the world, during WAR TIME, and somehow avoid friendly fire accidents between allied forces that are not of the same origin? You must live in a world where communication between armies of seperate countries using different languages is somehow instantaneous.

      Also, Israel does have its own satellite programs, i'm not sure where you're getting your information from. Israel lasted more than three weeks in all of its existance – without a single US troop fighting for it or a single shot by US forces on Israel's behalf. Israel does its own fighting for its own survival, thanks.

      You're right, jews used guerilla tactics against British occupying forces – except the jews targeted MILITARY and POLITICAL targets, they did NOT target civilians.

      In summation, you're an idiot.

      May 29, 2011 at 8:43 pm |
  14. dumkoph

    Forget about all the political BS and ask yourself these question. Who has contributed more to humanity, Jews or Muslims? Who has hijacked our lives due to terrorist actions, Jews or Muslims? Where would you rather live, in a free and democratic Israel or in an autocratic Arab country where rulers arrest and shoot their own people? Which country respects 50% of their citizens (women) more? Why have tens of million Arabs left their countries and migrated to free and democratic countries? I can go on and on but I'm sure by now you get the idea. Muslims are still living in the 5th century where chopping off hands, feet, heads, etc. are not only tolerated but want to institute Sharia Law throughout the world. Oh yea, will never forget the picture of Gazan's throwing their "brothers" off buildings with their hands and feet tied, Enough, I'm gatting sick!!!

    May 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
    • Mycology

      Amen sir.

      May 29, 2011 at 8:39 pm |
    • Ray

      What country respects 50% of their population (women)? What about all the other people who are not Jewish that do not have the rights of the Jewish population.

      May 29, 2011 at 8:44 pm |
      • Mycology

        In Israel, every person regardless of race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, gender, sexual preference, etc,

        has -equal rights- , 1 vote, and the ability to appeal to a secular court of law to address their concerns and grievances.

        It is only in your racist little head that you are convinced somehow Israel is anything less than a modern democratic state.

        May 29, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
  15. Mycology

    the arabs not only "haven't helped" in assisting palestinians, they have purposely kept them in camps and denied them aid and assistance. Perhaps this quote from a "palistinian" will help you understand,

    In 1977, PLO leader Zouhair Moukhsein (Zahir Muhsein in some translations) was interviewed by a Netherlands daily (Truv) (spelled Trouw in some translations) . Pay close attention to what he said:

    “There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation; creating a Palestinian state is a new means in the ongoing war with Israel for Arab unification, because realistically there is no difference between Palestinians and Syrians, Jordanians, or Lebanese. We speak of the existence of a Palestinian nation only for tactical and political purposes. It is in the Arab national interests to encourage a separate Palestinian identity in order to oppose Zionism. Tactically, Jordan – as a legitimate state with defined borders – cannot lay claim to Jaffa and Haifa. But I as a Palestinian can demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beersheba and Jerusalem…after we secure our rights in all of Palestine; we must without a moment’s delay, reunite Jordan and Palestine.”

    Three years earlier (1974), Syrian president Hafez Assad declared:

    “We must remind the Israeli government that we view Palestine not only as inseparable from the Arab Nation, but as a part of southern Syria.”

    As far back as 1956, the PLO’s first chairman, Achmed Shukeiri, declared at the United Nations that:
    “There is no such thing as Palestine, which is merely the southern part of greater Syria.”

    May 29, 2011 at 8:39 pm |
  16. clark1b

    Muslims support their leaders ... and their leaders have stated that they want Israel wiped off the map.

    Why would any sane person want to negotiate with the Muslims ... knowing the intent is not to negotiate a deal but simply to buy time and hope for the upper hand.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:40 pm |
    • Mycology

      After Israel comes Europe, after Europe, they will be on your doorstep, except – they're already in our house. They start their revolutions from within.

      May 29, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
  17. David

    The author of the article has displayed a lack of objectivity and instead steps front and center with extreme bias. CNN should strip the author of any editorial opinions. To call the exchange with Obama a tirade makes this clear. Obama has twice made pronouncements and set back peace efforts at least a year in each case (stop building settlements in 2008 and negotiating the 67 borders when they were discarded by the Bush administration). The author of the article should have some integrity and get the perspective right.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
  18. Brian McLaren

    There are some standard excuses that are used constantly. Please add to the list anything I have forgotten:

    "We won it in a war!"

    "God gave it to us!"

    "All Palestinians are terrorists!"

    "Jews made the desert bloom!"

    "Israel is only 2 miles wide!"

    "Palestinians should go live in Jordan."

    "We are the only democracy in the middle east."

    "Israel is America's best friend."

    "Israel is America's best ally."

    "Every Palestinian wants to kill all Jews!"

    "There is no such thing as a Palestinian."

    "No nation established with terrorism is legitimate."

    "As long as they fire rockets they will have no nation!"

    "There is no such thing as Palestine."

    "Israel has a right to defend itself." (applies to anything and everything)

    I'm sure I've forgotten some. Please add to the list.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
    • Mycology

      As Usual, half-truths and outright lies. If you are Christian, Muslim, or Jewish, you would acknowledge that God declared the state of Israel, it is the only state which God himself created. Not all palestinians are terrorists, who said such a thing? However, they do teach their children to hate and to be murderers. Israel is more than 2 miles wide, you're way off even in your sarcasm. Jordan IS Palistine. Do some research. Israel is probably America's best friend / ally. Most Palistinians want to kill jews, yes. You could just look at some of their media to see that, even their children's programming involves teaching children to kill jews, and displaying the jews as killers of mickey mouse – as one of their childrens tv shows famously depicted. There were no such thing as "palistinians" until 1964, when the PLO invented them as a unique nation of peoples. There are numerous verified quotes from PLO leaders and arab leaders saying so. Yes, as long as they fire rockets every day, they dont get a nation – at least not where they control their own borders. Palistine existed – only because a Roman emperor renamed the Jewish nation of Israel to Palistine. Whats so hard about that to understand? Israel does in fact have a right to defend themselves. Next you'll be saying we're "milking the holocaust", when in reality jew haters are the only ones to even bring up the holocaust.

      May 29, 2011 at 8:51 pm |
    • JoaoAlfaiate

      Brian- You forgot an important one: If you disagree with me about Israel, you are an anti-Semite.

      May 29, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
    • neurodetonal

      Good list. Here's my favorite: "As long as they fire rockets they will have no nation!"
      Go Israel!

      May 31, 2011 at 7:58 am |
  19. Mark D. Ruthenberg

    Et tu Fareed?

    May 29, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
  20. JerrynFlorida

    gottabejokin, Amen to that!

    May 29, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
  21. LUC

    you are SPOT ON Fareed!!!

    May 29, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
  22. Truthiness9

    Writing an opinion is one thing, but if you're given the CNN pulpit, at least present something that indicates you see all sides of an issue. Israel's hand aren't clean, but the comments below that Israel is the bully or in the wrong is just plain stupid. Mycology below sets forth the proper analysis- all of these insanely large, populous and wealthy Arab nations surrounding a county the size of New Jersey, and yet their beloved Palestinian Arab brothers continue to be ignored and treated as street rats by their own people. Zakkaria's comments are just as pathetic, and indicative, of the Muslim world's refusal to do anything to help the Palestinians. I just wish Israel would completely disengage (yes, cut off the power, water and infrastructure they supply to the Palenstinians) and sit back and watch with the rest of the world as the true nature of the Muslim nations comes to light.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
    • Mycology

      Thanks Truthiness, i'm honored you would reference me :-).

      IN all truth, Israel is not innocent, Israelis not innocent, and Jews not innocent. But they are -NOT- more guilty than others (especially the "paliestinians") and are in fact much more deserving of support than the numerous regimes across the world committing much worse crimes – without a sliver of the justification that Israel has. How many Tibetan Suicide bombers have there been? How many Darfuris rockets have landed on sudanese cities? How many Cypriots have hijacked planes and crashed them into buildings in Turkey?

      Israel is not innocent, but they aren't even a fraction as guilty as the arab and muslim (and other jew haters) world would have us believe.

      We're watching the muslim intentions right now, in all of their countries. The saddest part, is that the countries who respected their minorities did so because of their secular dictators, and now without them they suffer horribly, just look at the coptic christians in eygpt. Sad sad world we live in.

      May 29, 2011 at 9:01 pm |
  23. dave

    If there is an arab, palestinian, terrorist, jew or western person who thinks for one minute concessions will bring peace you are so naive. The hatred for israel is beyond measure and only those who hate can understand. WHy is the world pointing their fingers against Israel? it is so simple ..all you have to do is see their history of being blamed for everything...
    the land they are on is historicially Israels...will remain israels...and any country who goes against them will be destroyed eventually...
    Obama is naive as most leaders of the western world except that guy in canada harper.
    Do not concede mr PM Of israel as the only thing that will happen is u will let the wolves get closer...so sad the hatred these ppl grow up with..DO not concede and inch even at the risk of all against u..no one loves you ..it is written at this time. I do suggest u get back to your god who will bless u abundantly with peace but u must follow ur scriptures ..not ur rabbis..not ur writers but ur scriptures...
    GOd bless you

    May 29, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
  24. Brendan

    1. send seal team 6 to secure the temple mount
    2. Declare it permanent free territory to be enforced by U.S., free to all.
    Then see who really wants what.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
    • obsthetimes

      NO!
      no american money or soldiers should be deployed to be used as cannon fodder for israel.
      screw the temple mount!

      May 29, 2011 at 9:00 pm |
      • Mycology

        no American soldiers have -ever- been sent to Israel or been used in wars to defend Israel.

        As for the money, I would say we should keep it here in America, but that would cost American jobs. I'll leave it to you to personally fire those men who will lose their jobs if the 3 billion in defense aid can't be used to purchase American arms anymore.

        May 29, 2011 at 9:06 pm |
  25. RG

    So what is the solution? Keep on fighting for more generations to come? How many generations have been wasted on this hatred and killing! Both Israel and Palestine are responsible for killings. Palestine uses suicide bombers and Israeli use planes to kill innocent people. I am not Arab or Jewish but one thing I want to say here.. Israel has no right to build a wall surrounding 1.5 million people in the Gaza Strip and hence create ghetto like conditions for 1.5 million people. These people have no medical, no education, no opportunities, and no water (Israelis control the flow of the water). What do you think these people will do eventually? They will rebel and attempts more suicide bomb excursions.

    Sit down like grown up and talk and resolve this once for all. Future generations will thank you!

    May 29, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
    • Mycology

      Very simple difference buddy. 1. Israel targets terrorists, never targets civilians, and goes to GREAT LENGTHS to avoid civilian casualties.

      2. Hamas (and their ilk) aim for children.

      Israel -absolutely- has a right to build a wall on its borders, and I wish we (america) would do the same. When theres a wall, people with weapons and explosives can't get in. I hope thats not beyond your ability to comprehend. They do have education, they do have water (Israel GIVES them water), they DO have opportunities, and they DO have medical treatment. There are hospitals in the west bank and gaza, and they have one of the fastest growing economies in the WORLD.

      There are SHOPPING MALLS in Gaza. Let me repeat that,

      SHOPPING MALLS, in that place which morons like to compare to a "nazi concentration camp".

      Israel tries to sit down and talk to the "palestinians" all the time, and the "palestinians" say no, not until you all die.

      May 29, 2011 at 9:04 pm |
  26. obsthetimes

    America has become the robot run by israel. So blatant has israel become that its PM came to the White House and had the nerve to dress down the US president. The israelis friggin' own us. I would love to slap that arrogance off netanyahu's face.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
  27. misi

    I AM FED UP OF FAREED TAKING STANCE AGAINST AMERICANS. As a muslim he will only favour muslims. It is more and more clear that he hates americans. In favour of mosque in ground zero, against israel and so on.

    May 29, 2011 at 9:01 pm |
    • obsthetimes

      you're full of crap and crass to attack fareed as a muslim. He only sides with america and not with muslims. You obviously haven't read him on Pakistan, afganistan, egypt, libya; the list goes on. You make me barf!

      May 29, 2011 at 9:04 pm |
      • Tyler Durden

        "You make me barf"? What are you? 10?

        May 29, 2011 at 11:34 pm |
  28. Moishe

    There never will be peace in Israel, because the PA speaks with both sides of its mouth and Hamas and their supporters just want to destroy Israel and make Israel and the entire Middle East Judenrein.

    Remember, those in the world who hate us or persecute us, either want to convert, subvert, or annihilate us, if not by violent means, then by other means. We, as Jews, shouldn't give them ammunition to do these things.

    If America or Canada did not welcome us, we'd have few places to go to.

    Proud to be a Jew; Proud to be an American; and Proud that we have Israel ....

    May 29, 2011 at 9:02 pm |
    • obsthetimes

      And yet look how you repay that land that gave you refuge. Instead of ensuring its safety and prosperity you want to use it as a piggy bank to fight israel's enemies. Now you want us to fight iran. You're israeli's first. Maybe you should go and live there.

      May 29, 2011 at 9:07 pm |
  29. Jim in Florida

    Zarkaria is a front man for CAIR and for Islamic extremism. Obviously he is anti-Israel – didn't need this particular piece of trash journalism to prove that. CNN is a hotbed of blame America and Israel sentiment – Zarkaria is a card carrying member, as well as a good little lapdog for the empty suit Obama.

    I seriously doubt that Zarkaria was pleased that we took Bin Laden out and I am sure he thinks we brough 9-11 on ourselves. This si the Obama party line, a line Obama was indoctrinated into by sitting and listening to the Rev Wright for 20 years.

    I have to assume that CNN supports this view too.

    May 29, 2011 at 9:03 pm |
    • JoaoAlfaiate

      9-11: The day the tall skinny kid sucker punched the school yard bully.

      May 29, 2011 at 9:48 pm |
  30. Gary

    As has already been said, I find it amazing that anyone can generate even a shred of hope that anyone can stop the fighting and hatred that has existed for many hundreds of years between these two, extremely opposite and diametrically polarized tribes of Israel. The very root and genetic fabric for both of these groups is hate, distrust and war. Put a guarded fence around the whole region; put a large stack of weapons and explosives in the center of it all. Bring in a cleaning crew 6 months later to clean up the mess and plant trees and flowers and build a few gas stations.

    May 29, 2011 at 9:03 pm |
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