July 27th, 2012
04:33 PM ET

Time to face facts on gun control

By Fareed Zakaria

It has now been just over a week since a lone gunman opened fire on moviegoers in Aurora, Colorado. The airwaves have been dominated by soul searching.

Most of the pundits have concluded that the main cause of this calamity is the dark, strange behavior of the gunman. Talking about anything else, they say, is silly. The New York Times’ usually extremely wise columnist, David Brooks, explains that this is a problem of psychology, not sociology.

At one level, this makes sense, of course, as the proximate cause. But really, it’s questionable analysis. Think about this: are there more lonely people in America compared with other countries? Are there, say, fewer depressed people in Asia and Europe? So why do they all have so much less gun violence than we do?

The United States stands out from the rest of the world not because it has more nutcases – I think we can assume that those people are sprinkled throughout every society equally –but because it has more guns.

Look at the map below. It shows the average number of firearms per 100 people. Most of the world is shaded light green – those are the countries where there are between zero and 10 guns per 100 citizens. In dark brown, you have the countries with more than 70 guns per 100 people. The U.S. is the only country in that category. In fact, the last global Small Arms Survey showed there are 88 guns for every 100 Americans. Yemen is second at 54. Serbia and Iraq are among the other countries in the top 10.

We have 5 percent of the world's population and 50 percent of the guns.

But the sheer number of guns isn’t an isolated statistic. The data shows we compare badly on fatalities, too.  The U.S has three gun homicides per 100,000 people. That’s four times as many as Switzerland, ten times as many as India, 20 times as many as Australia and England.

Whatever you think of gun rights and gun control, the numbers don’t flatter America.

I saw an interesting graph in The Atlantic magazine recently. A spectrum shows the number of gun-related deaths by state. Now if you add one more piece of data – gun control restrictions – you see that the states with at least one firearm law (such as an assault weapons ban or trigger locks) tend to be the states with fewer gun-related deaths.

Conclusion? Well, there are lots of factors involved, but there is at least a correlation between tighter laws and fewer gun-related deaths.

I've shown you data comparing countries, and comparing states. Now consider the U.S. over time. Americans tend to think the U.S. is getting more violent. In a recent Gallup survey, 68 percent said there’s more crime in the U.S. than there was a year ago. Well, here’s what I found surprising: the U.S. is actually getting safer. In the decade since the year 2000, violent crime rates fell by 20 percent; aggravated assault by 22 percent; motor vehicle theft by 42 percent; murder – by all weapons – by 13 percent.

But guns are the exception. Gun homicide rates haven’t improved at all. They were at roughly the same levels in 2009 as they were in 2000. Meanwhile, serious but non-fatal gun injuries caused during assault have actually increased in the last decade by 20 percent, as guns laws have gotten looser and getting automatic weapons has become easier.

We are the world’s most heavily-armed civilian population. One out of every three Americans knows someone who has been shot.

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but not to his or her own facts. Saying that this is all a matter of psychology is a recipe for doing nothing. We cannot change the tortured psychology of madmen like James Holmes. What we can do is change our gun laws.

Should U.S. gun laws be tougher? What would you change?

soundoff (4,938 Responses)
  1. Name*Leon

    i also would point out a strong factor, if the people in the U.S don't have the weapons to protect themselves then can we truly TRUST our policy makers to listen and not bully this country for the rich and other countries wealthy people with their own ideas they want the U.S people to be for them. i know it sucks to have all these guns out here but its truly our best defense against domestic and foreign attack against us economically and violently . its the world not our dreams we fight to survive in.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
  2. David

    Take a look at this map: http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html (Map B)
    The less freedom the less guns.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
  3. volsocal

    We also have the most freedom. Less every day, unfortunately. More government imposed gun control every day. Could there be a correlation?

    July 29, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
  4. Drew

    Gun control is not about abolishing guns or the right to bear them, it's about removing military-grade weaponry from our civilian society. I can and have fully protected myself and my family with my .357. If the nut case can't get an AK, I don't need one to protect.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Tom

      Don't be naive, your ".357" would be scheduled as a Military Grade Weapon on the very first list of banned weapons. You would be lucky to be able to buy a single shot .22 by the time this law is unjustly imposed on the American People.

      July 29, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
      • Drew

        Is this your gut"speaking, Tom, or can you prove this? And as I doubt you can prove any of your grand slippery slope natterings, we'll just assume you're gum-flapping.

        July 29, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • Greg Tringas

      Sorry Drew but you are wrong...If on 9/11 one million terrorists were unleashed from sleeper cells in this country, I venture to say that you 6 shots in your .357 would have taken care of one or two before they wiped out you and your family with military grade AK's/AR's...Yes, were do have limits on weapons, tanks, nukes, etc., but we are supposed to be armed with the same battlefield small arms as the enemy in case of a scenario that I just presented...I actually felt at that time that we were about to see such an assault which was a real possibility...and you would have thanked God that there were those citizens who hold these beliefs would have been there to defend you, your children, and our country.

      July 29, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
      • foreigner

        Maybe it's time to remind you that America was founded and built by foreigners-immigrants. Besides, to tell somebody to f.. off is not an argument.

        July 29, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
  5. segundooron

    Fareed. I am not sure what country you come from, but I know you are a Muslim and you hold the Holy words of the Prophed Humammade to be sacred to the such that they should he considered law. This is because nothing God says to us is imperfect. I can agree with that argument. I sir can not sit and watch a woman buried to her waste and stoned todah and should she make it out of the stoning put alive such as climbing out, it is a sign from God she should live.

    Your article makes it as if America, who has he highest gun rate in the world, has a gun issue. The issue here is lunatics getting the guns I have to protect me and my family from. Law abiding gun owners are not securely storing their firearms in a gun safe securely bolted to the frame of the house. Dry up the supply of illegal gun and you dry up these crimes such as the ones in Colorado.

    I would personally like to extend my deepest condolences to their families. If I were at that theater with them, i would have given up my life protecting them because when my 45 rounds of ammunition ran out, I would have sheltered someones body until help would arrive. I doubt my aim is untrue such that I would need all three of my clips but you never know if it is more than one person and sometimes you have to lay supressive fire for people to escape.

    God Bless the victims of the shooting tragedy and God Bless the USA. Dr. Ron

    July 29, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
  6. James

    Come on bro, really, why are you liberal media guys so fixated on taking away our ability to defend ourselves?
    34,000 people die per year from gun violence
    105,000 christians are killed per year for their faith
    6,000,000 people die per year from smoking
    One is ignored by the media, One the media is complacent on, and one the media is staunchly throwing in our faces. You people need to get off your high horse and prioritize. Automatic weapons are NOT easy to come by. Thats a complete load of horse___. Furthermore, an assault rifle ban will not do anything except take guns from law abiding citizens. It's just like marijuana, you illegalize it, it simply goes to the black market. I don't know about you Fareek but I can easily score a bag of chronic. I'm sure your in the same boat if you can so easily get a full auto. Also, just like marijuana, you CREATE more criminals. The James Holmes and Timothy McVeighs of the world will always find a way to murder.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • Drew

      Yes they will, so let's do nothing. Let's not try to minimize the damage they can do when they decide to kill. Let's all carry our own AR-15s to the theater. People like you make no sense in the discussion.

      July 29, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
  7. Jers

    Man, there's a lot of dumb people on both sides of this argument........ I'm a gun owner and an Independent/liberal, and the answer isn't more laws/gun control. Heroin is illegal and that doesn't stop junkies from scoring some and shooting up..... This country has to many other problems (i.e. drug trafficking, gang crime, human trafficking). Honestly, its easier (and probably cheaper) for me to walk across my apartment complex and buy an illegal gun than it is for me to go 2 blocks to the gun store and buy one legally (mine are all legal). Criminals are not just going to put their guns down because all of a sudden there were made illegal, they're criminals.......

    On a slightly different note that I didn't see in this incredibly long line of comments, I notice in the article that Americans THINK crime is on the rise, when factually, its getting lower. Thank your media for that one. The truth is that while things might actually be getting a little safer around here, CNN and FOX would have you peaking out your blinds thinking that you'll be mugged and shot as soon as you walk out your door. "Don't go out there, it's not safe!! Just stay inside on your nice comfy couch and watch our intense and dramatic news coverage of all the horrible things you don't want to get caught up in"............

    July 29, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
  8. WillyWalnuts

    Fareed Zakaria hardly sounds "American'. . . does anyone know who's side he's on ? Try going to Fareed's homeland and see if your opinions make national news.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • Drew

      Take your phobias elsewhere, loser.

      July 29, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
  9. budd

    Once again we try to blame guns for society not willing to accept the fact that we need to step up and report and detain people like this. The manager of the shooting range where this fool practiced said he thought the guy was off. So why did he not report it? Cause I don't want to get involved. You can cry and moan about gun violence ALL you want to. But gun deaths are caused by three groups. Criminals, people in love , and nutcases. If you are not going to take responsibility for these morons and let someone in authority kn ow when they are acting like fools then it will continue to happen. I am sure that you would find that the average number of cell phones is highest in America as well. You prove my point by stating that crime is down except for homicides, the most personal of crimes. Do some more research. How many of the victims knew their killer. There is the issue, not the guns

    July 29, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
  10. mike

    The author is right in the fact I know people who were shot. None of them owned a gun.
    I wonder how our forefathers would have won their independence from Great Britain if we did not have privately owned weapons during the beginning of the revolt. I am sure there were some who said we don’t need to own guns in the American colonies back then. I would rather have my legally obtained privately own gun and not need it than not have it and do. I would rather be a citizen of these United States of America and a subject.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
  11. GDawgme

    Well, the gunners sure have come out on this one in full force! Curiously, they are stuck on an inadvertent error on Zakaria's part, that is, the use of automatic instead of semi-automatic. Simply add "semi-" in front of Zakaria's article, and nothing changes, all his points remain. Meanwhile, the gunners have disputed nothing and simply raised a giant red herring or two. Their arguments about what it takes to convert a semi- to an auto are simply silly and pointless. Gunners, like drinking alcoholics, just can't or won't face the facts, and like alcoholics, they couldn't care less about the damage they inflict.

    One of the axioms we hold true in the U.S. is that "freedom is not free." The price we pay for the freedoms gunners want is the over-the-top gun violence.

    It's nothing less than disgusting.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
  12. Matt

    Mr Zakaria, obviously, you are not a gun owner. Obviously, you are just another leftist journalist who sits on the sidelines and write stories with statistics in tow, and no real world understanding of the subject. Obviously, you're just out to stir the pot. Who lives and who dies doesn't really matter; it's all about the story. The concern in this country shouldn't be for the guns that we know about, but rather for the ones that we dont know about. There were signs that this young man in Colorado could have been stopped. I read a story that said that he had been seeing a psychiatrist. Every time something like this happens, you can almost look at the root and see a situation that could have been prevented if a few people would have been brave enough to report him to authorities. Where was his family in all of this? Penn State is an example of people who could have done something, but didn't. Guns aren't the problem...this is a societal problem. This is a generation who is connected online, and disconnected with each other. Please do some real reporting, and stop digging at old wounds that aren't any solution at all.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
  13. BH

    What you people are forgetting is that we have our guns so when will have a fighting chance and overthrowing a corrupt and tyrannical Government. Defending ourselves is a benefit of our 2nd amendment. People who fall for this mind conditioning mis-imformation need to be relocated to a place where their government can do to them whatever they feel like. Wake up Sheeple! There is an agenda by printing articles like this.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • sherman the bedouin

      yeah this guy may have "disarmed" us politically but in point of fact he never will literally.

      July 29, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • budd

      You don't think that this guy and his friends would ever want to overthrow the wonderful, marvelous, federal government do you?

      July 29, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
      • BH

        It's not what I want, it's the reason why the 2nd amendment was put in place.

        July 29, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
  14. Tiglath

    Yep, let's face facts. You put up some but hardly all. How about the facts important to the individual, free citizen, devoid of paranoia, but with eyes and ears taking in the everyday reality of living in a big American city?

    The Gun Argument

    Authorities are charged with keeping the people safe, but their success in doing so never gets even close to 100%.

    The percentage of failure in that goal of the Authorities gives us the everyday reality of the criminal and violent element in our societies. It's murder out there.

    It certainly is to a small extent even in cities where one would normally feel safe in the street, as the nicer parts of major cities. The Authorities and the rest of us have learned to live wth this reality and have no choice.

    More bad news, the violent and criminal found in any society can be inflated in number by sharp turns in social change. Take the 1920's, when all of a sudden was illegal to have a drink. Lousy whiskey never tasted better than during those ten years. The resulting black market yielded riches such that marketeers were rapidly elevated form violent street hoodlums to the upper crust of cities and with immense wealth and political influence. The violence suffered by the citinzenry during gang wars and the less tangential losses due to corruption, extorsion, and racketeering must have had certain bad effect on their lives, to put it mildly. That increased danger and loss were incurred directly from the consequence of a government policy. It's extraordinary that the lesson learned would in any way fail to vividly illustrate the effect of prohibitions on the human mind. It's not the way, try education and medical intervention.

    At the time of writing, the same mistake has been in the making since the start of the War On Drugs. Same claims exactly as for The Prohibition, now it's a different people, substances, methods, but essentially the same except for, naturally, the scale.

    So now we still have gangs in the cities against which, and bad areas where it is clear you may not be protected well or at all. Never mind that any upheaval, or natural disater may trigger civil unrest. The L.A. riots showed that every so often you may want to barricade yourself in your home and be able to discourage if not repel attacking rioters. In that jam, a gun you know how to use is infinitely more comforting than your biggest kitchen knife. Mexico illustrates clearly the inability of a goverment to protect the citizen from the consequences of a misguided policy. The sad part must be that it is almost too late to decriminalize drugs, because the drug cartels are organizations as immense as voracious, and consequently it is a distinct possibility that if the illicit drug black market would dwindle to nothing, they would concern themselves with other activities like kidnappins or human traffiking on a much greater scale.

    In sum. (1) There are a bunch of armed bad guys out there all the time, muggers, robbers and the like; (2) random upheavals and civil disorder may make more bad guys out of the good, as in the recent riots in London; and (3) your War On Drugs, has motivated a lot of people to think themselves impervious to your laws and become heavily armed and criminally and gruesomely lethal.

    Therefore, Authority, since I have to get used to your inability to protect me, it's only fair the Authority better get used to my continuing to exercise the natural right to protect myself first, and if the Authority can give me a hand as well, well, thank you kindly. Law enforcement being mostly reactive and a great thing to have in the aftermath of crimes, is by common sense rather poor on the preventive side. That role is adequately complemented by law-abiding gun owners, which are an essential security layer to the many required to live a peaceful existence.

    If you take my gun and not those of criminals, you not only do me no favor, but potentially endanger me - you defang me. The thankfully low frequency with which one, on average, is called to protect himself from lethal force, is no excuse or reason to assume it will never happen or that the odds don't warrant the protection afforded by a firearm. The inability of an authority to completely protect the free citizen in no way easies the mind to part with firearms. It's part of the price of freedom, the same freedom that makes us often thrive economically and enriches the authority, and whose price is always virtuous to be ready to pay.

    Now, in a free people a mass killing is apt to become so sensationalized that the tragedy eclipses the real significance to society as a whole and in the long run, in favor of only those affected and the many who empathize while in the public mind.

    We have lost our emotion about the everyday toll of using rapid transport and the use of legal drugs; the numbers can be as high as they will, the psyche has long solved, settled, and archived that question. And why giant new numbers of annual victims app. 50K lives lost in traffic, 400K tobacco, 150K booze, don't evoke new questions or calls for more laws to prevent it all? And why, any sensationalized massacre including 9/11, Columbine, VA Tech, and similar great tragedies, where numbers can't compare, bring such outcries for change, or historic over-reactions?

    What is that we are trying to protect? It must be human life, is it not? Surely then than guns, despite the many victims, and the inherent evil their haters attach to them are spectacular less costly in lives than say, tobacco, that apparently harmless recreation whose purpose of existence is definitely NOT that of killing people as guns are, correct?

    The psyche can also settle the question, it is my hope, that same as cars seem to be worth the continuous slaughter on our roads, guns that protect us are equally so or even more, only the price it's not hundreds or thousands dead every single day, the price is less, some years it's only accidents with guns, others is worse and someone commits a mass killing, yet it's tens of peoples. Just as terrible qualitatively, but less people dead is less bad, or the elusive lesser evil: the recognition of which is the least we can expect from the human political good side.

    To consider what's good for the greatest number of people, one must avoid the parrochial, the newsflash, and pay no mind to fears to be perceived aloof, detached, insensitive, or even callous. A good general will let a small number of soldiers die for the greater good to save his army. The organic scale under consideration must not be constrained by concerns for the individual's thoughts but for the good of the many. Guns will cause a toll every year. To reduce it it cost money to check on people. Once benefit of guns, even when never used, is felt and valued by the majority, the focus will shift, I hope, from the inanimate object, the gun, to the people, who are in fact the ones doing the killing, and that would be a newsflash to few. To reduce this few does not cost money, it can be done by thinking with as little emotion as possible.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
  15. Bill


    You aren't an American and this article shows your true colors. The United States has over 300 million people and is the most culturally diverse country in the world. Comparing us to other countries is like trying to compare fruit to junk food. There is no comparison.

    And the assumption that we have the most nutcases? That's an entirely subjective statement. Our psych wards have much more strict requirements than a country like India, your home country. In India they let people die and starve on the streets because they don't have the money to put these "nutcases" in psych wards.

    Fareed, your a smart guy and you know exactly what your doing. Problem for you is the United States has a lot of smart people as well who logically think and understand deception when they see it.

    This article is filled w/ deception.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
  16. Emax

    1. Emax, do you have a life?
    2. Get a gun and become a real policeman.
    3. Its obvious you are good at being a grammar and spelling policeman.
    4. lol
    July 29, 2012 at 12:53 pm |

    Hi Chad

    1. Yes
    2. Neither need nor want a gun. If you do, that’s fine with me.
    3. “It’s”. Contraction of “it is”. Apostrophe required. They teach this stuff in grammar schools.
    4. Yes, lol.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
  17. noneyobeeswax


    Zakaria was very clear that the statistic he was citing primarily was the sheer number of weapons, as evidenced by the color coded map. Gun restrictions were mentioned without going into details and as a secondary citation. Gun ownership by civilians is inescapable fact.

    The point he is making is that like it or not there is a statistical link between gun ownership levels and gun homicide levels internationally that we are a glaring negative example of. He also makes the point that gun control laws at the state level are associated with fewer gun homicides in that state (this is criminal homicide, not justifiable homicides like self-defense).

    For anyone who is anti-gun-control: Make your points as you wish about the benefits of guns... but do not try to run from the fact that fewer guns in this country would mean fewer deaths.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • ret

      You are wasting your time. These gun guys are here for their guns not the society. It's all about their guns to protect their lives. They feel we are as protected as any other civilization if not better and will turn any statistic that way, but yet they have to get guns to control their lives. None of it makes sense and it's rather funny.

      July 29, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
  18. Jim

    America is still by far the best country to live in BECAUSE of the freedoms we enjoy. For those of us who legally immigrated here by CHOICE, we chose to live here in spite of your liberal minded thinking because it's great to live in a place that the government (A group of people like you & me) has not ruined by restricting every waking moment of life. Every society has nutcases, and always will. If they chose to do their bidding by renting a ryder truck and using fertilizer to blow up a building, flying a 757 into a high riser or using a store bought AR-15 to shoot up a crowd, mental health is the issue, not the medium of the attack. It's great to whip out the ol' gun control argument every time someone goes postal, but consider the real source of the problem. As a former law enforcement person, I can personally say a kitchen knife is just as lethal as a handgun, and used just as often to harm. Before you ask the government to add more restrictions on your life, and take away your right to defend your person and family, think about what your asking for.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Emax

      Thank you Jim. You said it well.
      After doing my time in Vietnam, I kissed the runway at Oakland. I consider the price I paid a fair exchange for my citizenship.
      We have our faults here , but we have always dealt with them. We will deal with this as well.
      Dealing with stupidity is a different problem – and a far larger one.

      July 29, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  19. sherman the bedouin

    I have one and I paid 3 grand for it. Supposed to be the most accurate 25mm in the world. IT IS NOT ANY OTHER COUNTRIES BUSINESS HOW MANY OR WHAT KIND WE HAVE BECAUSE IF WE ARE INVADED IT WILL BE JUST LIKE 1776, WE CAN SEE YOU AND YOU CAN NOT SEE US. plus we may have to hunt to eat.
    I think this nut job was a Manchurian candidate. Alex jones is off the chain about some treaty that was just signed by Obama that gives our rights away...but I don't care what kinds of guns are legal as long as a single shot bolt action 22 or .35 is legal then I am fine with all of it. do wish I could mine the driveway though.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Drew

      This is why we cannot have real discussions about limiting gun crimes in this country. Nut cases with conspiracy theories at hand.

      July 29, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  20. Truth Sayer

    I'm an American. Born and raised here. I must say we have a bunch of idiots in this country. Did some one actually compare knife violence in Scotland to the violence that happened in Colo.? Seriously? Knife violence? If you dont think that taking all guns out of the hands of civilians you're an absolute idiot. Yep. I said it. It's laughable to come to any other conclusion. This country wont be around long. I give it 20-25 years. With the corporate greed, guns, drug war and politicians being lead by these issues we'll all be lucky to live as well as some of the homeless on the streets do right now. Hopefully I'll be dead and buried by than. Until we start doing things in this country to make things "BETTER" for everyone here we're quickly spiraling down the toilet. You know what makes things BETTER.

    No guns at all for civilians
    Legalize Drugs
    Bring all jobs back from over seas
    Stop letting corporations control our politicians and government
    Healthcare for all

    Simple s#it like this needs to be dealt with immediately or our children will not live nowhere near as well as we have...

    July 29, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
  21. Ben

    Wow, tighter gun control laws results in fewer homicides related to guns? What a surprise. I wish I was smart enough to figure things like that out so I could get a high paying/profile job in journalism.

    If you don't like the 2nd Amendment then get out of this country. There are plenty of other countries that have socialized healtcare, more stringent gun control, etc etc. Americans don't want you whiny liberals here any longer.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • foreigner

      Who told you that you represent America?

      July 29, 2012 at 6:38 pm |
  22. Nick

    We are the world’s most heavily-armed civilian population. One out of every three Americans knows someone who has been shot.
    Statements like this are half-truths and meant to add shock value to an opinion. Road convoying through eastern Turkey many years ago, I observed a large part of the civilian population sporting AK-47s. OPC vet. I would like to see some limits added to 'assault weapons' like age and FBI background checks. I have a CHL and usually carry a 40 or 45acp and being the excellent shot that I am, I still would be no match for a madman with an AK. My heart and prayers for the victims and their families.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  23. guest

    they say in other countries, they have knife attacks and stonings, but guns do kill a lot more quickly. With the amount that are available just for hunting, I think we just have to be alert for weirdos and know how to report to proper authorities, or teach your kids in the first place some morals. I don't think gun control is going to really be changed too much, but it is terrible when someone embraces evil and wants to kill randomly en masse.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
  24. seth

    Guns are for the free and we are free!

    July 29, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
  25. Truth Sayer

    If you dont think that taking all guns out of the hands of civilians decreases gun violence exponentially you're an absolute idiot.


    July 29, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
  26. SSampson

    I keep hearing that Gun Control means "the only crimminals will have guns"...... Really?? Mostly, GUN Control means registration and the elimination of SOME weapons – Personally, I don't want my neighbor firing an assault rifle in his house at an intuder... Bullets do a bunch of things – they go through walls, and they actually fall when fired up in the air... (they fall at velocities high enough to kill – (which seems to elude some people)...

    But to say " only Crimminals will have guns" is a silly statement – ALL countries have illegal firearms – every one – and yet their gun control laws corelate with significantly fewer gun related deaths....

    We could say the same about cars – people steal them all the time... and yet we register them – it is a lot harder to sneak an automobile into a movie theatre, no??

    NO law will stop crime – we have a cimminal code, but people STILL commit crimes... Using the logic the NRA uses, why should we have a crimminal code?? It doesn't stop 100% of crime, does it?? Neither do prisons... so why have them?? Condoms don't stop unwanted pregnacies 100%, nor do they stop STDs 100%, so why use them??

    Gun control laws can be used to prevent crime... but certainly nothing is 100%. And requiring you to register your firearm shouldn't matter if you can still buy it, no??

    With freedom comes responsibility – Freedom does NOT mean you can do ANYTHING you want...Laws dictate that, and I assume most people want SOME laws – as long as you can say what you want and go where you want within our country... and leave if you want...

    Freedom is equality – Freedom exists at greater levels inside safer countries... and perhaps THAT is why we are not at the top of the list in so many areas hat equate to freedom.... And since we have few laws surrunding firearms, you certainly can't say that THEY are restricting freedom..

    July 29, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Betterthanyouall

      you're a moron ...you talk about freedom ...so you practice freedom of speech while wanting to take away freedom to bare arms... right follow the rest of the sheep and instead of taking freedom from others...how about you give up yours and head on over to N. Korea, since you'd prefer the Govt to do your thinking for you

      July 29, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
  27. Bob B

    Fareed 99.9999% of gun owners never commit any crimes with their guns. Some nut case commits a crime and all the sheeple come out against guns and want to ban everything.The funny thing is, almost everyone against guns have never even touched one and knows everything about them.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
  28. David

    Thing is, in NA and many parts of EU and so forth you can get away with this and get 25 years to life sentence, in many countries around the world, they won't even put you through prison nor court, they'll just straight up sentence you to death or execute you on sight once you're caught. There's something seriously wrong with the US system, it needs some fixing and the government has a lot to do with it.

    July 29, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  29. sohappy

    for fully auto weapons I believe you have to get those from b o -holder f and f operation ,Note: tell you're cartel

    July 29, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  30. Betterthanyouall

    Yep we have the most guns but oddly enough not the highest gun related deaths...and more gun control ...so go on and explain to us how criminals follow the laws in the first place...you hate all the guns here ...pick another country and head on over there instead of trying to force your Stupid Ideas of taking freedoms from other Americans

    July 29, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
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