October 11th, 2014
10:46 PM ET

Let's be honest: Islam has a problem today

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By Fareed Zakaria

When television host Bill Maher declares on his weekly show that "the Muslim world...has too much in common with ISIS," and the author, Sam Harris (a guest on his show) concurs, arguing that "Islam is the mother lode of bad ideas," I understand why people get upset. Maher and Harris made crude simplifications and exaggerations.

And yet, they were also talking about something real. I know all the arguments against speaking of Islam as violent and reactionary. It is a vast world of 1.6 billion people. Places such as Indonesia and India have hundreds of millions of Muslims who don't fit these caricatures. That's why Maher and Harris are guilty of simplification and exaggeration.

But let's be honest: Islam has a problem today...There is a cancer of extremism within Islam today. A small minority of Muslims celebrate violence and intolerance, and harbor deeply reactionary attitudes towards women and minorities. And while some moderates confront these extremists, not enough do so and the protests are not loud enough. How many mass rallies have been held against ISIS in the Arab world today?

But now the caveat, Islam today, is important.

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  1. Jimbob

    Islam is the problem, a wicked, demon filled religion

    October 13, 2014 at 7:34 am | Reply
    • Mosely

      Religion Islam is a way of life. It is better than your cult.

      October 13, 2014 at 7:38 am | Reply
  2. Mosely


    October 13, 2014 at 7:36 am | Reply
  3. Mokte

    For the past 50 years, we have been toppling legitimate governments in most Islamic countries, intalling mass murderers as puppet dictators, stealing oil worth trillions from them, killing millions of women and children by bombing their cities, invading Iraq. Afghanistan, Lebanon etc. on false pretences, and now tell them that Islam has problem!! We need to understand their blood soaked struggle not the other way around.

    October 13, 2014 at 7:36 am | Reply
  4. Mosely

    Islam is my religion.
    Islam is my way of life.
    You don't like it, too bad.
    Most of the people in this world love it.
    It the largest, the fastest growing and with youngest demograhpics in the world.
    The future belongs to muslims.
    Eat your heart out.

    October 13, 2014 at 7:44 am | Reply
  5. Mosely


    October 13, 2014 at 7:46 am | Reply
    • Mason

      Fareed completely missed the point. ISIS has over 30 thousand radical killers (Muslims), we don't hear the good Muslims speaking out against them. You make a joke, draw a cartoon, and they want to kill ya. They treat their women like garbage, and want to kill everyone who disagrees with them. I see NOTHING good coming from Islam Except Murder & Misery! <-

      October 13, 2014 at 9:16 am | Reply
      • The Fladaboscan

        You are wrong. Isis is about violence and poverty. That is what creates groups like this, not religion.

        October 13, 2014 at 9:21 am |
      • Andulamb

        And when is the last time you spoke out against the words or deeds of any group that someone else sees you as belonging to? And because you haven't, then it's okay to judge you by the actions of the most extreme members of your group, right? No, not right. That is prejudice. See, here's the thing. If radical Muslims commit a heinous act, and a peaceful Muslim does not "speak out" against the actions of the radicals, that's not on them, it's on you. Because you are the one who is choosing to be prejudice. You are the one saying that you will judge someone based on the groups you perceive them as belonging to. And not only is that prejudice, it's also hypocritical, because I guarantee you have never spoken out against anything in a way that someone on the other side of the world would be aware of, which is what you are asking all Muslims to do - not only do you want them to be against the actions of the radical Muslims, but you want them to make their feelings known to you. Wow. Not asking much, are you?

        October 13, 2014 at 10:06 am |
      • RitTV

        There are plenty of Muslims speaking out against ISIS, but only because they have taken their level of violence to the ABSOLUTE EXTREME. Ironically, this has become a recruiting tool for them and has become very effective.
        The real problem with Islam is simple: No matter what a Muslim does, as long as it is to an infidel (which, to groups like ISIS is EVERYBODY but them), than it is okay. This stems from the Ummah (Muslim community) and the vast propaganda amongst Arab media and politicians to blame the West for all of their problems. They are reaping what they have been sowing for decades.

        October 13, 2014 at 10:12 am |
      • CarlWstCoast

        Absolutely right. Where are the religious leaders in the Muslim world that are condemning the stupidity of the extremists? Is anyone with authority standing up and saying this is wrong? If they are, I haven't seen it. In the absence of such leadership, I think it quite appropriate to label Islam as the problem. When I see Muslim authorities speaking out against the Wahhabists in Saudi Arabia, then and only then will I be able to distinguish fanatics from Islam; until then, they remain one and the same...

        October 13, 2014 at 10:13 am |
      • ptewolferwoman

        I agree and if "Andulamb" wants to call us prejudice- TFB!
        Silence is CONSENT!
        If a group like ISIS represented a perceived view of me or my world I'd speak out so loud!
        Until Muslims speak out against the extremist that were responsible for 9/11 & are at this moment committing atrocities against humanity the world view against Muslims will continue.

        October 13, 2014 at 10:39 am |
    • Matt

      As you can see from the following data: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01/64-percent-of-muslims-in-egypt-and-Pakistan-support-the-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam/

      It is not just a few extremists. In many countries the majority of the population holds views contrary to basic ideals of human rights held by the rest of the world. In this case, majorities (representing millions of people) in several countries support death penalties for changing your religion from Islam. I am even concerned that 15% consider that OK in Indonesia which is always described as a moderate place.

      October 13, 2014 at 9:48 am | Reply
  6. Mosely

    India mastered terrorism
    via raypes and beheadings and burning innocent people alive in Indian Occupied Kashmir and Gujarat, Assam, Tamil Nadu etc. These bad guys were hindus. Again, millions have been killed.

    Furthermore, terrorism, IEDs, self immolation and suicide belt technology was invented by Indian hinddoous in Sri Lanka. They trained Tamils as suicide bombers and terrorists. They were marketed as Tamil Tigers. The terrorism lasted 35 years. Hundreds of thousands were killed as a result. The hate towards India was so much in Sri Lanka that Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi was slapped by a Sri Lankan soldier during an official visit. He was later blown up to smithereens by a hindoo suicide bomber in India.

    October 13, 2014 at 7:49 am | Reply
    • mimi

      ostrich ostrich here we come

      October 13, 2014 at 8:11 am | Reply
    • mimi

      a packie piggy chop

      October 13, 2014 at 8:12 am | Reply
    • AMM

      Actually, Mr. Zakaria, India has a huge Islam problem that has been existence since the middle ages and has never gone away. India gets encroachment from Islamic insurgents from Pakistan in Kashmir on a daily basis. They get illegal immigrants from Bangladesh into Northeast India who also start trouble. Parts of India with largest Muslim minorities, such as Utter Pradesh, Hyderabad, and West Bengal, witness communal riots on a frequent basis that are almost always incited by the Muslims, who then complain when the Hindu's retaliate in self defense. Meanwhile, while the rest of India is trying to make progress through education and family planning, the Muslim minority still tries to adhere sharia law and send their children to madrassas despite India being considered a secular country.

      October 13, 2014 at 9:00 am | Reply
    • Kalyan

      Dear Mosely, I am from Tamil Nadu and I have not seen the activities you describe happen. Contrary to your statements "millions" have not been killed. IEDs, self immolation and suicide bombing was not invented by Sri Lankan Tamils, they learned them from middle eastern terrorist groups. I would encourage you to read the book "Tea Time with terrorists" where a LTTE member describes how he got trained in Beirut and even shook hands with a popular leader. Rajiv Gandhi was attacked by both Sinhalese and Tamils because he sent the IPKF (Indian peace keeping force) to Sri Lanka. Suicide bombing took root in the Iran-Iraq war where child soldiers were employed and an Iranian child strapped with booms leapt onto an oncoming tank and exploded himself to become a "Martyr". Please do some homework and let's talk facts without exaggeration.

      October 13, 2014 at 10:27 am | Reply
    • FreedomJunkie

      India CONTRIBUTED $4M to Gaza Rebuild Effort for Moslem Palestinians , including their hospital blown away by Israeli Army. India has been contributing $1M for Palestinian cause every year since 1960s. India's Vice President of Party in Power BJP is a Moslem.

      October 13, 2014 at 11:54 am | Reply
  7. Mosely


    October 13, 2014 at 7:51 am | Reply
    • mimi

      delusional anyone. of course a muslim.

      October 13, 2014 at 8:12 am | Reply
    • jn

      I keep asking this question, nobody answers – tell me how peaceful was muhammad when he vanquished the jewish tribes of medina?The men and boys were beheaded in an open market. The women and children were sold to slavery. Now isil is emulating mohammad.

      October 13, 2014 at 8:32 am | Reply
      • ifhorseshadgods

        It is not peaceful and if people actually follow their particular religion they would behave much like ISIL and Christians of the inquisition (or Westboro Baptist). Fact is most people DO know better and know that religions of gods are not real so they don't follow (because it's insane), but it's a trained habit they fear stopping.

        October 13, 2014 at 8:39 am |
    • MarieEricsson

      ALL religions, including Christianity, have been corrupted by violence. Anything practiced by humans will be in the end…..

      October 13, 2014 at 8:35 am | Reply
      • Lea

        Christianity should not be violence. The Crusades were not Christian acts, but a Catholic one. Also Buddhism is not a violent religion. There are others who practice deep respect for human life... but unfortunately when led by the wrong people, religion can and has turned deadly. Perhaps it is the values of the core religion you need to pay attention to? As much as I disagree with the Catholic faith being Christians, I also believe there are Catholics who are Christian. Similarly Islam is a violent religion, yet there are some peaceful Islamists. Problem is, in the Quran if you are called by Allah to do harm and do not, you are worse than an infidel, because you know the " truth " and do not follow it. So even those peace loving guys may be compelled to strap a bomb should one of their higher ups in the faith request it.

        October 13, 2014 at 9:00 am |
    • Matthew

      The peaceful majority is irrelevant if they do nothing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI74lOgfxk4

      October 13, 2014 at 9:12 am | Reply
    • Proud of your delusion

      You're delusional. Delusional people will believe anything.

      October 13, 2014 at 10:44 am | Reply
  8. Al

    even if islam was followed (albeit unwillingly) by all of the world, it would still be a man-made disaster

    October 13, 2014 at 8:10 am | Reply
  9. Don

    Islam has a problem-

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    Groundbreaking info in this report.

    October 13, 2014 at 8:17 am | Reply
    • himpdahak

      What is booing water and why is it hot?

      October 13, 2014 at 8:40 am | Reply
  10. HumbleE

    Some of these comments really expose the illogic of the Islamophobes. While organizations such as the Lord's Liberation Army are dismissed as a cult, somehow ISIS is completely representative of Islam. Furthermore, the actions of ISIS are conflated with those of its enemy, the Syrian regime (which now has our tacit support). Most of these comments are full of grammatical errors and engage in personal attacks against individuals whom they do not know. it is obvious to any fair reader who has the moral high ground.

    It is heartening that so many people and groups are opposing this bigotry and/or cynical demagoguery.

    In response, I have committed to contributing as much as I can to CAIR and other civil right organizations and Muslim charities.

    October 13, 2014 at 8:20 am | Reply
    • Bill

      Were you referring to the Lord's Resistance Army, Mr. Grammar Nazi? I should hate to think YOU were guilty of mistyping something while insulting everybody that disagrees with your conclusions.

      As to them being dismissed as a cult, ya that is what happens when you only have a couple hundred members. When you reach the hundred thousand mark, give us a call.

      Is that really the problem with you violence deniers? You have no concept of scope and size? You equate a
      , now 250 member, cult that is opposed by a multi-millions strong church (catholic) with several hundred thousand strong terrorist organizations with TONS of international support? Is it a math problem?

      October 13, 2014 at 9:20 am | Reply
  11. ifhorseshadgods

    Extremists or fundamentalists? That's the real question ... Is violence and intolerance actually found in the Q'ran or for that matter in the Christian bible. If it is, why aren't more people following it in a fundamental way, like these extremists that include Westboro Christians. It's either the word of a god or it's not and people are just nuts ... my observation, some people are just nuts.

    October 13, 2014 at 8:25 am | Reply
    • Drdrdaddeo

      It is the word of "man", God does not write in books. The belief that the words are divinely inspired is what gets everyone in trouble. Those words were inspired by some wise men, and some lunatics. We should never take them literally or the lunatics amongst us will have a field day.

      October 13, 2014 at 9:20 am | Reply
    • Proud of your delusion

      Just as Bugs Bunny never wrote any dialog, there is no word of god, because there is no god. There is only delusional people and delusional thinking. For ISIS, anything other than a belief in their silly book makes you infidel, or less than them. It's a sad reality that delusional people everywhere have so much power.

      October 13, 2014 at 10:47 am | Reply
  12. ifhorseshadgods

    Religion is generally a benign human illness, brought on by an abstract thinking mind without the knowledge to fully understand the universe around them. However, sometimes symptoms show occur in the form of dangerous mental illness ... as we have and continue to see in Islam, Christianity and most god(s) fearing religions of human history.

    October 13, 2014 at 8:34 am | Reply
    • Al

      i agree

      all of us are the problem

      we don't even muster to the level of the definition of artificial intelligence in ourselves let alone being the chosen ones of a god

      October 13, 2014 at 8:40 am | Reply
    • Drdrdaddeo

      Completely, dead-on, 100% correct. Too bad people are to conditioned to religion at infancy to open their minds to this reality.

      October 13, 2014 at 9:38 am | Reply
  13. Andrew

    ISIS Speaks for all of Islam. They say so, and they're the ones making their voices heard and their wrath felt.

    We see muslims rioting in the streets over a cartoon but NOT against 9/11, the London Bombings, The Madrid Bombings, The Bali Bombs, the Boston Marathon Bombings, except perhaps in support.

    Whenever there's some new attack or atrocity by them the first thing on the news is someone whining about how there will a backlash against muslims, not a condemnation of the act.

    The Sunni and Shia make war on each other over things that happened 1000 years ago and demand that other shed blood to stop it.

    Yes Islam today has problems, the biggest of which is that it makes its own self-inflicted wounds the problems of others and waits for others to solve them.

    October 13, 2014 at 8:44 am | Reply
    • billbl

      Every civilized and somewhat educated Muslim ought to be speaking out against the abuses of the people that ISIS is inflicted.

      October 13, 2014 at 9:32 am | Reply
    • Proud of your delusion

      All delusionists are mentally ill. ISIS simply concentrates that illness into a message for other mentally ill morons.

      October 13, 2014 at 10:48 am | Reply
  14. Steven

    Fareed alludes to Islam only being a real problem in the last 70 years this is a ignorant and incorrect assertion. While during the golden age of Islam there was tolerance and kindness to Jews for the most part Islam has been just as cruel and intolerant to Jews as was Christianity. To try link the rise of fanatical Islam to the modern state of Israel is pure anti-Semitism. I would suggest Fareed studies the history of Islam which has its fair share of genocide against not only other religion’s but also within different sects of Islam. Maher and Harris are both correct even though their statements are hard to swallow for adherents of this faith.

    October 13, 2014 at 8:57 am | Reply
    • billbl

      And when were the Palestinians run out of what is the state of Israel?

      October 13, 2014 at 9:29 am | Reply
      • Steven

        If you want to have a intelligent debate I am all for it, one line trolling contributes nothing and shows the troll to be a ignoramus...

        October 13, 2014 at 9:56 am |
      • billbl

        Steven, sorry I reread you post. I believe that Fareed, Maher and Harris are doing a service in opening a more frank discussion that has been prevented in recent past. I hope that many Muslims will begin to question the actions of some fellow Muslims and their ideas. And, yes, history tells of the sweep across northern Africa and into Spain offering their captures the Quran or the sword.

        October 13, 2014 at 10:14 am |
  15. dbtunr

    Islam is a cult of hate and ignorance

    October 13, 2014 at 9:06 am | Reply
    • Proud of your delusion

      You mean it is a delusion that instills and encourages hatred and feelings of superiority over others.

      October 13, 2014 at 10:49 am | Reply
  16. jonathanlk

    I believe all religions are becoming less relevant, due to their bloody and barbaric pasts and presence. FYI – over 98% of my family does not care about religion, but we are evidently better behaved, happier, more truthful, and more decent than most religious people are. We also don't have any history of enslaving people, raping, or murdering people for any reason. It seems it is a bad thing if a religion becomes important. It implies you can not think for yourself, are an intellectual baby that needs rules, that you have no sense of better judgement or moral sense of your own. If that is the case you should start thinking wbout what you think, say and do and ponder within what your own vision of yourself as part of this universe is and how you can get there. A book rules will blindfold you, and tie your shoelaces together. Do you want to walk and see, or trip and fall blind? You decide. For starters, keep the community in mind and try to think of yourself as a part of that.

    October 13, 2014 at 9:06 am | Reply
    • billbl

      That is a good testimonial about people and how they can live decent lives without involvement in church.

      October 13, 2014 at 9:24 am | Reply
      • Steven

        Communist Russia under Stalin had no religion and resulted in millions of deaths as did Mao in China and Hitler In Germany.
        The "Hitler Youth" sang this song:
        We have no need for Christian virtue.
        Our leader is our savior.
        The pope and rabbi shall be gone.
        We shall be pagans once again.

        Pol Pot the genocide between the Hutu and Tutsi these are not faith based but ethnic and ideological.
        Ranting that religion is the problem is incorrect and facile.
        Study history and educate yourself…

        October 13, 2014 at 10:09 am |
      • billbl

        The soldiers of Nazi Germany wore "God is on our side".

        October 13, 2014 at 10:16 am |
    • James

      Its always wonderful when someone self professes to be a good person. I am sure all Christians and Muslims think they are good people too. As a matter of fact I am sure ISIS think they are the best too.

      October 13, 2014 at 11:39 am | Reply
      • billbl

        That is why one needs to examine their religious ideas in comparison with other idea. Even with humanistic ideas.

        October 13, 2014 at 1:11 pm |
  17. shuyaib

    Tendencies towards extreme and crooked ideologue have increased in muslim world in last century. The guilt that muslim community carries is, that, any effort to create a state based on islamic principles, whether achieved by democratic means in Algeria, Egypt, Tunisia, or by autocratic means have been squashed in their infancy.

    The guilt of loosing Khalifah, the pope if you so will, of muslims, has affected the psyche of of muslim world.

    There is a sense of intolerence in western world to the idea of muslims establishing a state, or implementing Sharia, both of which have been created demons, instead of being understood.

    For one, muslims will want sharia, because Sharia applies to muslims, but distinction is, it does not apply to other groups. For second, unless another democratic successful muslim state exists in middle east whether it be in egypt, algeria, tunisia, morocco, chances are sequence of events will keep repeating itself, as muslim world is fed up of meddling both by western powers, and powers in Saudi arabia.

    October 13, 2014 at 9:10 am | Reply
    • billbl

      Islamic states tend to not permit the expression of opposing or moderate ideas. This leads to inflexibility. Only with open inquiry of different ideas can wrong ideas be eliminated and better ideas be chosen.

      October 13, 2014 at 9:20 am | Reply
  18. billbl

    The people fighting for ISIS appear to be "uncivilized". All educated Muslims ought to be speaking out against the extreme violations of others.

    October 13, 2014 at 9:15 am | Reply
    • Proud of your delusion

      They are ignorant and stupid. They will multiply the numbers of stupid and ignorant by any means necessary. Indoctrination begins at an early age, and it is easy to convince children with your propaganda. They kidnap and enslave women to bend them to their need to promulgate this stupidity and ignorance. The only way that intelligence will survive is if they die. A smartphone won't protect you from these people, or from your own ignorance. The enemy is humanity, unfortunately.

      October 13, 2014 at 10:55 am | Reply
      • billbl

        Just the presents of this open discussion may plant some seeds of civilization into their heads.

        October 13, 2014 at 1:14 pm |
  19. Patrick

    Fared, "Clinton News Network" (CNN)....why is it that for years conservative politicians, and conservative media, including news and at least a dozen conservative radio talk show hosts have banged their head against the wall saying "Islam has a problem"....it's not news? And now Fareed says not, and it's news? Did CNN finally realize it was becoming irrelevant and decided to get on the truth train? Or is it CNN has declared itself the only source of truth in its terms?

    October 13, 2014 at 9:16 am | Reply
  20. Hazem Abussaud

    a) Mass rallies are illegal in most Arab countries, usually punishable by a combination of prison and torture.
    b) It's highly unlikely that mass rallies will have any effect on an organization like ISIS.
    c) It's complicated. Does being anti-ISIS make you pro-Assad? In the sectarian mess that is the Levant these days, there are no good guys, there are just different shades of bad, and if we measure badness by the body count, ISIS still isn't the worst. That "honor" of the biggest body count in the Middle East still lies with the US, having killed a lot more Arabs than Assad and ISIS combined.
    d) The right wing christian fundamentalists that caused the massacre of so many Iraqis are a lot more dangerous. Bi. n Laden could only dream of causing as many deaths.

    October 13, 2014 at 9:29 am | Reply
    • Proud of your delusion

      Yet the free Syrians beg for the US to help. If we are so bad, so terrible, why do they want us to help? Oh, this double edged sword you attempt to wield cuts both ways, and when we drop the sword, you will pick it up to behead those who disagree with you.

      October 13, 2014 at 10:59 am | Reply
  21. billbl

    "a) Mass rallies are illegal in most Arab countries, usually punishable by a combination of prison and torture."
    That is a problem for civilized society when people can not protest in public. Another problem is when they are not allowed to express what they think when it differs from the leaders or rulers. Free expression is necessary to root out bad ideas.

    October 13, 2014 at 9:38 am | Reply
  22. Tupper

    We are shocked and surprised that they are so brutal. The west and colonial powers have been bombing and shooting them since WW1 Lately we have been vaporizing families Our answer has always been bomb them. Now we are reaping what we have sown. We should have left that area of the world decades ago.

    October 13, 2014 at 9:41 am | Reply
    • Proud of your delusion

      Who suffers more? The family that is vaporized, or the family that has it's men beheaded, it's sons indoctrinated into hatred, their women and children forced into submission and servitude?

      October 13, 2014 at 11:03 am | Reply
  23. Xman

    Irish Edmund Burke once write "For the triumph of evil requires only inaction of good people" can explain this phenomenon.

    Edmund Burke, écrivain irlandais, résume bien ce phénomène "Pour triompher, le mal n'a besoin que de l'inaction des gens de bien."

    October 13, 2014 at 9:42 am | Reply
  24. bob

    Islam could win a whole bunch of converts if it advertised the use of cannabis in particular as okay. The manly male types could smoke one after battle and their women could grow it and smoke it at home

    October 13, 2014 at 9:48 am | Reply
    • Proud of your delusion

      You are as delusional as they are.

      October 13, 2014 at 11:04 am | Reply
  25. joe

    This argument is the equivalent of 'my unicorn is better than your unicorn'. The religious debate is just as productive as the unicorn debate. If not for organized religion the human race would be so much more advanced. Religion is a cancer. Eradicate it.

    October 13, 2014 at 9:53 am | Reply
    • Steven

      Communist Russia under Stalin had no religion and resulted in millions of deaths as did Mao in China and Hitler In Germany.
      The "Hitler Youth" sang this song:
      We have no need for Christian virtue.
      Our leader is our savior.
      The pope and rabbi shall be gone.
      We shall be pagans once again.

      Pol Pot the genocide between the Hutu and Tutsi these are not faith based but ethnic and ideological.
      Ranting that religion is the problem is incorrect and facile.
      Study history and educate yourself…

      October 13, 2014 at 10:11 am | Reply
      • Proud of your delusion

        Religion is the domain of the ignorant and delusional. None of those you mentioned killed in the name of being atheists. They killed because they were bad people, likely as delusional as you are.

        October 13, 2014 at 11:06 am |
  26. Cthulhu

    Bow down and worship me. I am the one true god. Kill all the unbelievers.

    October 13, 2014 at 10:01 am | Reply
  27. Darrell W

    The Prophet Mohammed would be very pleased with the members of ISIS if he were alive today. They are practicing the religion of Islam just as he instructed them to do.

    October 13, 2014 at 10:07 am | Reply
  28. Rynomite

    Islam... Christianity.....

    Potato. Patato. (sp)

    October 13, 2014 at 10:10 am | Reply
    • Proud of your delusion

      Religion and delusion are the problem.

      October 13, 2014 at 11:07 am | Reply
  29. ztarbod

    The primary driver of radical Islam is Saudi funded schools. However, this is a bit like Pandora's Box.

    October 13, 2014 at 10:12 am | Reply
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