October 25th, 2014
03:41 PM ET

Has Obama presidency met expectations?

Fareed speaks with CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger and author and historian Sean Wilentz about President Barack Obama's presidency. Watch the full panel discussion this Sunday at 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. ET on CNN.

Paul Krugman gave this rousing defense of Obama...If you look at domestic policy, most consequential president since Lyndon Johnson. Do you agree with the basic outline?

Wilentz: I think Paul is basically right. But Paul and I have been on the same page from the beginning – skeptical at first, much more respectful now of what the president has managed to achieve. I mean, it's not spectacular, but a lot of people had very, very high expectations, shall we say?

It's hard to be disillusioned...

Borger: Including Obama.

Wilentz: Well, indeed. But it's hard to be disillusioned if you weren't “illusioned” to begin with. And judged on a more rational scale, I think the president’s done a good job.

Borger: Yes, I think the problem here for the American people, and I don't know how this plays out in history, is that when you look at President Obama, you look at the numbers we're looking at now, it's a question of leadership. It's a question of whether he has communicated well to the American public about his successes, which you could argue, in the future, health care reform will be judged as a success.

Wilentz: Yes.

Borger: Or whether he's communicating with them about the problems, like Ebola, like ISIS, like Ukraine. And how you talk to the American people has a lot to do with how they view you.

Zakaria: And he hasn't, in your view, communicated well?

Borger: I don't believe he is. Less than half of the public believes that he's a strong commander-in-chief. Less than half of them now believe that he's a strong leader. And this, of course, will affect the upcoming elections.

Post by:
Topics: GPS Show • Politics

soundoff (81 Responses)
  1. chri§§y

    Sure as he!! beats the expectations and illusions i was having visualizing Romney as POTUS!

    October 25, 2014 at 4:07 pm | Reply
    • Randy

      Really? Or were you hallucinating on cheap weed?

      October 25, 2014 at 4:57 pm | Reply
  2. Allan Kinsman©

    A rule as I understand it, did President Obama leave the country in better shape than he got it? The answer is a resounding yes. Are we headed in the right direction? This is a squeaky question. I think the country is in better shape than 2008 but are we prepared better for the future? This is a resounding no. Election influence, environmental concerns, legal fraud, corporate control and beaurocratic sludge are major obstacles for a thriving civilization. We can go any direction from here and to survive our current dilemma we must reign in the influence of money on politics, get back to a common sense in how we see the world and deal with our debt. We need an injection of wisdom into the politics of crisis.

    October 25, 2014 at 4:19 pm | Reply
  3. Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

    Obama has achieved massive change domestically.
    When he was first elected, many naive USA citizens thought that he would cause them to become rich by transferring other citizens' and corporatios' funds into the bank accounts of the poor. Of course, those naive citizens were disappointed.
    I have only admiration for Obama.

    October 25, 2014 at 4:22 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

      Typo:
      corporations' funds

      October 25, 2014 at 4:31 pm | Reply
    • Randy

      Didn't you post that one of your hero was Josef Mengele? You have high standards.

      October 25, 2014 at 4:56 pm | Reply
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

        Dr. Mengele?
        No, I do not recall my posting that he was one of my heroes.
        Did I post something about the purchase of farming equipment?

        October 25, 2014 at 5:15 pm |
      • Cristobal

        You did post you belonged to a gang rayping gang somewhere in third world.

        October 25, 2014 at 5:30 pm |
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

        @ Cristobal,
        Yeah, well that, oh right.
        Whatever.

        October 25, 2014 at 6:06 pm |
      • Tabitha

        Joey. Your boyfried tired you out last night

        October 25, 2014 at 6:37 pm |
  4. Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

    In response to @ Allan Kinsman's post, there is nothing wrong with money, and money has great political power.

    October 25, 2014 at 4:29 pm | Reply
    • Allan Kinsman©

      I agree there is nothing wrong with money there is something wrong with greed. It pursues money for other reasons. Also the pursuit of power leads to guess what, the pursuit of more power. To pursue an agenda I can understand, as Einstein said, it's a relative universe. However to buy influence for personal gain to either have more power or more money by buying new rules to favor those who would benefit. What I'm saying is all men in power seek it, one way or another and those of us that are just Americans seem last in line. The politic seems to know whats important and I think they are under the influence of greed.

      October 26, 2014 at 12:22 am | Reply
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

        @ Alan Kinsman,
        I understand your POV, but that it not the way I see the world and society.
        I see power as desirable. I see the pursuit of power as greatly beneficial to mankind.
        The strong survive. The powerful survive.
        Sometimes the very weak die.
        Humanity survives because of power.

        October 26, 2014 at 8:43 am |
  5. chri§§y

    Spot on @ Allan! And @ Joey i agree with your admiration of Obama but wherever did you come up with the rest of that? Is it wrong for people to expect to be paid a living wage for honest labor? That does not mean they want a free ride. Maybe you would feel different if you were expected to live on 7. 35 an hour and provide for your family also.

    October 25, 2014 at 4:34 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

      @ chrissy,
      You and I know different people.

      October 25, 2014 at 4:37 pm | Reply
      • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

        This discussion regarding wages and families brings us back to the marshmallows very nicely.
        That just came up as the next thread.

        October 25, 2014 at 4:51 pm |
      • Randy

        And who are they? Jack the Ripper?

        October 25, 2014 at 4:55 pm |
      • Cristobal

        Jeffrey Dahmers. LOL

        October 25, 2014 at 5:28 pm |
  6. Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

    Even a USA president has to dwell in reality.
    There are both conservative and liberal forces in the world. A government must deal with all forces.

    October 25, 2014 at 4:35 pm | Reply
  7. Randy

    All the aid to India and what it has accomplished.

    ::80% of hinddoous track to rail tracks to defecate in India

    :: 95% of hinddoous in India don't have toilets

    October 25, 2014 at 4:53 pm | Reply
  8. Blue Saffron

    We have invested a lot of resources in India over the past two decades and given a lot of aid to prop it up. There has been no investment on this return. Instead India has squandered all the resources in building nuclear weapons while poverty remains rampant in the country.

    October 25, 2014 at 5:09 pm | Reply
  9. Blue Saffron

    Terrorism is rampant in the region in part financed by Indians. We need to revisit our relationship with India. American taxpayers will not tolerate this anymore. We need to take care of our own populace going forward. We cannot be exporting jobs to India or giving it financial or technical handouts.

    October 25, 2014 at 5:10 pm | Reply
    • Cristobal

      We have given India a lot of aid. They have rayped it all away.

      October 25, 2014 at 5:28 pm | Reply
  10. Blue Saffron

    @Randy @Sammy et al India has become too big to govern or create any value for western countries or even for its own population. India needs to be carved up into smaller independent states to be a viable economically and geo politically.

    October 25, 2014 at 5:11 pm | Reply
    • Cristobal

      Let China manage them.

      October 25, 2014 at 5:31 pm | Reply
  11. chri§§y

    True @ Joey! Lmao and it sure did and did you notice how quickly marshmallows turned into India and raypes??? That boy has some serious issues lol.

    October 25, 2014 at 5:52 pm | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©

      @ chrissy,
      I think that it's just a simple India fetish.
      An experienced courtesan could, wearing Indian garb, ring his doorbell and take him for all he's worth.

      October 25, 2014 at 6:14 pm | Reply
      • banasy©

        *Snerk*

        October 25, 2014 at 6:23 pm |
      • Tabitha

        Joey did the priest oil your b utt on the altar. Ave Maria.

        October 25, 2014 at 6:34 pm |
    • banasy©

      Yes, Chrissy, the conversation hasn't been focused nearly enough on India, lately.
      It's time we talked about it 24/7.

      October 25, 2014 at 6:22 pm | Reply
      • Tabitha

        You are a fhagg. Go s ukk some d ikk.

        October 25, 2014 at 6:33 pm |
      • banasy©

        No, no, Tabitha, we must talk of India more. Please.

        October 25, 2014 at 7:30 pm |
      • banasy

        Did you mother get f ukked on India that you wanna talk about it

        October 25, 2014 at 9:31 pm |
      • banasy©

        You may wish to keep the circumstances of your conception off a public forum, faux banasy.

        October 25, 2014 at 10:13 pm |
      • banasy

        Ahhhh a product of raypes in India.

        October 26, 2014 at 4:53 am |
      • banasy©

        At least you admit it, 4:53 am. Good for you for taking that first step.

        October 26, 2014 at 4:21 pm |
    • Tabitha

      Is joey f ukking you? B itch

      October 25, 2014 at 6:32 pm | Reply
  12. Blue Saffron

    CNN, shut these forums down if you can't improve the subject matter or attract better quality of netizens.

    October 25, 2014 at 6:44 pm | Reply
  13. chri§§y

    Lmao @ Joey youre probably right. Thats why he keeps posting all his daydreams here on a national news blog eh? Wishful thinking mixed in with a mental defect!

    October 25, 2014 at 7:23 pm | Reply
  14. Blue Saffron

    CNN there is third world trash all over this place. Terrorists. Close this forum down immediately

    October 25, 2014 at 7:31 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      Do you think Tabitha is a third world netizen? She seems quite taken with speculating on other's bedroom lives.

      October 25, 2014 at 7:37 pm | Reply
  15. chri§§y

    Lol he sure is working that mission of his into the ground isnt he @ banasy? And have you checked out facebooks new blog "rooms"?

    October 25, 2014 at 9:07 pm | Reply
    • banasy©

      I don't Facebook, Chrissy. I have zero interest in it.

      October 25, 2014 at 9:15 pm | Reply
      • banasy

        Yeah you like to put d ik in your face. D ik face

        October 25, 2014 at 9:30 pm |
      • banasy©

        I am uninterested your fantasies, faux banasy.

        October 25, 2014 at 10:14 pm |
      • banasy

        You rather have pundit butter your butt up in the temple

        October 26, 2014 at 4:52 am |
      • banasy©

        Pundit butter? Is that the brand bought by Hannity?

        October 26, 2014 at 11:02 am |
  16. chri§§y

    Those moderators are tough as nails and trolls will NOT be tolerated @ banasy!

    October 25, 2014 at 9:09 pm | Reply
  17. banasy

    Chrissy i am coming over to rear end ya. Git the gel

    October 25, 2014 at 9:28 pm | Reply
  18. chri§§y

    @ banasy, the real one...i dont fb either but this isnt really facebooking. Its blog "rooms" on different news topics. Without the shenanigans that go on here of course.

    October 25, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Reply
  19. chri§§y

    THANK YOU @ Allan! That was so SPOT ON!!!!

    October 26, 2014 at 2:00 am | Reply
  20. banasy

    @CINDY well said. Modi needs to stop f ukking boys in the mandar and go face trial in ICJ.

    October 26, 2014 at 4:58 am | Reply
  21. Missy

    Fareed. Go help the Ebola patients in Monrovia. Your time better spent there.

    October 26, 2014 at 5:01 am | Reply
  22. Blue Sapphire

    60% of men in India think that raping and burning wife alive for dowry is acceptable. That is about 420 Million men !!!! That is more than the population of USA !!!! Tuft Polls

    October 26, 2014 at 5:05 am | Reply
  23. Br℃k

    You nailed it @Missy. Or better still go help the lepers in Madras. He doesn't add much to the debate here.

    October 26, 2014 at 5:26 am | Reply
  24. Blue Saffron

    I stood in front of The Parthenon and took in all the good that Athena stood for.

    I read about the Temples of Khajurahu and the evil that Kali Maa stands for.

    Two cultures: The Greeks – so very enlightened. The Hindus – epitomy of terrorism.

    And all Fareed wants to talk about are marshmallows.

    October 26, 2014 at 9:46 am | Reply
    • Philip

      Ancient Greek physicians developed Druggery. (learned of Druggery by invading and occupying ancient Egypt and studying how Egyptians became stupid enough to believe a Pharaoh is a god. Like the Medicine god "Horus" whose official sign was Rx. The same Rx symbol popularly found displayed on pharmacy drug stores today.

      October 26, 2014 at 9:57 am | Reply
      • Philip

        Physicians financed the construction of temples dedicated to make believe gods known today as "mythological gods". But back then, people were made stupid enough to believe those make believe gods were real.
        Physicians intentionally built these temples on land where natural gas seeped from the earth. They would pipe this gas into the temples and temple goers would get "high" on natural gas. This, along with the "medicines" prescribed, causes people to be really really stupid. And fat.
        Sound familiar?

        October 26, 2014 at 10:04 am |
      • Philip

        Of course the above words solve the long standing and ancient unsolved mystery as to how temples made of marble and granite burned down. Firefighters could not put quench natural gas fires using water. And so natural gas fueled flames burned temple stones over an extended time period, eventually causing them to crack and even explode.

        October 26, 2014 at 10:34 am |
  25. Hannah

    @Blue Saffron it is always a pleasure to hear from you. Here is my take.

    A recent report by United Press trust of India (UPI) stated that during the past three years more than 2,500 young boys and girls were sacrificed to goddess Kali in India.

    Another of AFP's recent reports say: hundreds of young boys and virgin girls are sacrificed every month for the deity Kali. In one case Rama Sewak hacked his eight year old son to death in broad daylight in Delhi because goddess Kali had told him he would come back to life and bring him good fortune.

    Bloodthirsty Kali is worshipped openly the length and breadth of India. Kali's statue stands naked astride the inanimate body of the Hindu deity Shiva, tongue stuck out with blood dripping from fang-like teeth. She holds a noose, a skull-topped staff, a blood-encrusted sword and a severed head. She is also known as Durga, Devi, Shaktima, Uma and Parvathi in other manifestations.

    The priest of Delhi, Kali Bari, says that a child sacrificed to Kali ensures a man the birth of a son. Human sacrifices are also made to these gods or goddesses, either to appease them or to ask favours of them.

    October 26, 2014 at 10:13 am | Reply
    • Hannah

      ALAS, the above is happening in modern times in India, not in antiquity.

      October 26, 2014 at 10:15 am | Reply
    • Philip

      According to FBI crime stats, about 182,500 American children go missing each day in the USA. Something zero news outlets report.

      October 26, 2014 at 10:37 am | Reply
      • Philip

        *missing and never being seen or heard from ever again.

        October 26, 2014 at 10:40 am |
      • American Patriot

        Americans use stuffing in Turkeys during Thanksgiving. In India candles are stuffed in v agina of girls during rayping. Two rituals two cultures two celebrations.

        October 26, 2014 at 10:48 am |
  26. Philip

    There are those who still practice the ancient religious practice of sacrificing their own grown children to the false god of War. Religious leaders promising everlasting life to those dying at war on behalf of "God&Country"
    Semper fi.

    October 26, 2014 at 10:47 am | Reply
    • American Patriot

      Apple Pie is to Americans what gang raypes are to Indian Hindoos.

      If it was up to hindoos they would be rayping apple pies also.

      October 26, 2014 at 10:49 am | Reply
  27. Philip

    According to the FBI, there are over 25 thousand street and outlaw biker gangs currently operating in the USA. Not India.

    October 26, 2014 at 10:54 am | Reply
    • American Patriot

      96% Indians still do not have simple toilets in this day and age in India.

      October 26, 2014 at 10:58 am | Reply
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini

      Quite true, Philip.

      October 26, 2014 at 12:41 pm | Reply
  28. American Patriot

    There is a gang raype every 22 seconds in India. World's highest rate.

    October 26, 2014 at 10:59 am | Reply
  29. American Patriot

    Obama's ascension to Presidency was under the affirmative action plan.

    October 26, 2014 at 11:11 am | Reply
  30. Joey Isotta-Fraschini

    Has the Obama Presidency met expectations? Of course not! We still have troops in Afghanistan while political prisoners continue to undergo torture at Guantanamo, Cuba. Moreover, this country is still in an economic depression and some are even predicting another crash in the near future!

    October 26, 2014 at 12:40 pm | Reply
1 2

Post a comment


 

CNN welcomes a lively and courteous discussion as long as you follow the Rules of Conduct set forth in our Terms of Service. Comments are not pre-screened before they post. You agree that anything you post may be used, along with your name and profile picture, in accordance with our Privacy Policy and the license you have granted pursuant to our Terms of Service.